Six Series Vol. IV No. 26 Monday, July 11, 1977 Asadha 20, 1899 (Saka) LOK SABHA DEBATES
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Second Session, i*77/i*9J (Saka)
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L O K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI CONTENTS
(Sixth Series, Volume IV, Second Session 1977)
*Y Monday, July 11, 1977 1 Asadha 20, 1899 (Saka) S ■ ... C o lum ns
.Member S w o r n ...... 1
Oral Answers to Questions :
♦Starred Questions No. 405 to 407, 409 and 410 . 1—30
Short Notice Question No. 15 30—39
Written Answers to Questions :
Starred Questions No. 408 and 411 to 424 39—60
Unstarred Questions No. 3013 to 3047, 3049 to 3077, 3079 to 3089, 3091 and 3093 to 3146 .... 60— 197 Papers laid on the Table ...... 197—99 Question of Privilege against Shri Kishore J. Tanna of Jamna Dass Madhavji and Company, Bombay— 199—201
Demands for Grants, 1977-78—
Ministry of Industry— 201—230 Shri George Fernandes 202—28
Ministry of Labour— 229—362
Shri Vasant Sathe 231—42
Shri Ram Dhari Shastri 250—61
Shri Ugrasen 261—70
Shrimati Ahilya P. Rangnekar 270—80
Shri G. Narsimha Reddy . 280—84 Shrimati Chandravati 284—89
Shri P. Thiagarajan 290—92
Shri Y. P. Shastri 293—306
♦The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the ques tion was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (>») Columns Shri Vayalar Ravi ...... 306— 14
Prof. Shibban Lai S a k s e n a ...... 314—20
Shri Ahsan Jafri ...... 321—28
Shri Manohar Lai ...... 328— 35
Shri K. A. Rajan ...... 336—41 Shri Chitta Basu ...... 341—45 Shri Ram Awadhesh S i n g h ...... 346—51
Shri K. R a m a m u r t h y ...... 351—55 Shri Harikesh Bahadur ...... 355—59 Shri N. Sreekantan N a ir ...... 359—62 LOK SABHA DEBATES i ' 2
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V iolation of Agreement by the Indian 7. Shri Sudhir Sareen—Treasurer. Crafts Society, New Delhi (b) and (c). Since the Society did *406. SHRI KANWAR LALGUPTA: not comply with the terms of allot Will the Minister of WORKS AND ment, the occupation of the site by ^HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE the Society was unauthorised. Neces HABILITATION be pleased to state: sary action is being taken against the society. (a) who are the office bearers of Indian Crafts Society who held exhi (d) No amount has been deposited bition at Windsor Place, New Delhi by the Society in P.M.’s Relief Fund. in 1975-76; The amount collected by the Society (b) what action has been taken is not known to Government. against the Society for not paying licence fee and not furnishing the (e) There is nothing on record to bank guarantee; suggest anything in this direction.
(c) what action has been taken by SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: Government against the Society for If you see the 'list, Shri Radha Raman violation of the agreement including 'is the former CEC, Shri Kapil Mohan non-furnishing the audited accounts; is the Director of the Maruti, Mr. (d) how much amount was collect Sagar Suri is the Director of Maruti. ed and how much has been deposited Mrs. Kailash Kapoor might have in the P.M.'s fund; and some relation with Mr. Yashpa] Kapoor. I do not know. (e) who were the V.I.Ps. who re commended the allotment of the land It is a clear case of embezzlement to the Society? and misappropriation of lakhs of THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND rupees. May I know from the hon. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE Minister that it being a criminal case, HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR does he propose to file a case with the BAKHT): (a) The Society filed a list police so that action may be taken containing names of members of against them? Secondly, I want to governing Council for 1973, with the know why no action was taken by Registrar of Societies, Delhi. List of the Government when there was un Office-bearers for 1975-76 was not authorised occupation by the society. field. On the letterhead of the SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: The Society, on which it requested for Law Ministry has been consulted. allotment of land on the 16th October, They have, of course, declared that 1975f the following officer-bearers the possession of the Society was un were mentioned. authorised. Necessary action is being 1. Smt. Kailash Kapoor—Presi taken in regard to the default of the dent. Society.
2. Major Kapil Mohan—Vice- SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: President. My pointed question was whether he proposes to file a case with the police 3. Shri Radha Raman—Vice- and what is the definite action that President. he proposes to take. 4. Shri H. N. Rathi—Secretary General. SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: I can tell him the definite action that we 5. Shri M. L. Goyal—Secretary. can take at the moment. According to the Act which governs the regis 6. Shri Sagar Suri—Secretary. tration of Societies, no penal action 7 Oral Answers JULY 11, 1977 Oral Answers 8
is possible. The land was given to FTrwft- «ft ? «ftr iff ^ r the Society on a licence fee of He. 1 per month which it did not deposit. jr>tt %■ ^ iv la 'flf apt ^r*fri ^ ^rRft t w f^r*T*r |, ?rk * iw ff % *rt ^ fcprr ^ qfaRffn f t r s m f t t «ft HT^1 : ^raY i ^rtt ^>n: 9F¥hnr ^ «ft 15p % Sft htrt *rr srsrnr snft *fr qig m htt n T w l WanT v m lsjr£ fen i t 5 ^o
«ft ssrT : «Rrnrr f% 9 qnfhrm' | i ■Tiff i ^rir % ^ff?r feft ^ +^vn Vt f W i ^J?r% fw m v n ?r ^ ift ^nhrrft ^ | *r^ ft> vjeft % wra^r ^ amfNr ^ ? wr ^ 20«n^pr, *1975 ^r lS^R^tt, 1976 | Wt t^TTf qT ^rrr % *T5ft v z ^ •i^!| I tjp (ivj ^ ftwl 9 ' Oral Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers io
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«ft vJOTH : r^i«i WiJ t «ft *?** fTsr »jqr : flm ^?r fa 5 m M r *T3ff % ^ 53rr ^ x fsprT, eft f ^TFTCT TTfrn g fa fa* ?TOT ?T q^% «ft fijW H : TOT : f^T R ^TWT TOT +iJT=)iff ^t, ^«rir f5j'rii4> ?nr itiH %t ^fa^T f^TT ^ I ^r^rrsjt *flfr ^ 1% PJ5TPT! ^R fr 5Ufta «ft : f^TT^- fTOT % vp* *fcft % <^r % «T>l^q|^V TOt ^ ^rf ? HT FTfa *T5|t ^ «TPf f? IT?,% ? «ft TOT : ^Nrft HT T(t%\ sft fiMWFT *W : f Hft ^ fa ^TT TjfT rU^rer Indira Gandhi the former Prime Minister of this country? yiTTO s ftr ^ ^Et ^RT ^ fa *TITd ti i «rT nVi ^ fr fan icicle SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: I am trying to locate Mr. Yash Pal Kapoor Bnd find out If -she is aiis wife. r "PT ^Tdf ^ rfK ^5f ^ T TX II Oral Answers JULY 11, 1977 Oral Answers 12
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«ft TOT : ^ T efF *K + K SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: It does ^rr a i? ^ + ^ f *rs> eft ^F Jt^r? n r not flow from this Question. sn%H t I ?PR ^ T JT5T eft fl" «ft q,5TTrT 5THf : ^TTeireT ^ fa ’HTT+'i ^rrfinr, ^ftr ^ €< + k , fl' ^rrwr ^'SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT; Now it *407. DR. MURLI MANOHAR is not possible to treat them as tres JOSHI: Will the Minister of AGRI passers as a letter, though late, has CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be already been issued regarding heir pleased to state: possession from 20th October to 30 th April, 1976. r (a) whether it is a fact that large i consignments of butter oil had been received by the Indian Dairy Cor «ft THTT^T ^ STT^TT poration as free gift from the Euro ^ 1*5 el I ^ f% ^»ft d<+ i i^+t ^prr^r ferr ^ftt (b) if so, the names of the coun t t f t r ^ r ^ Tft leTeTT ^ t tries and the quantities received from VTT ^ ^ t ^qr^ni 'SHI^t % ^T^SFST each country in 1975, 1976 and 1977 together with the terms on which ^ft *4 ^eTl ^TT^ft, ^ *t»®vb i this was received; Oral Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14
(c) whether butter oil was so^ it, whether it was paid for in foreign first at Rs. 70 per 5 kg. by the Mother exchange. Dairy and then the price was raised to Rs. 85; and Thirdly, you have said that *he price was kept as low as Rs. 14 per (d) if so, the reasons for increas kilogram in the beginning for testing ing the price? the acceptance of the consumer. That means you wanted to make it a per THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL manent feature of the Indian human TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI society. You want us to consume SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) here butter-oil which is surplus and A consignment of butter oil has been which is unfit for human consump received by the Indian Dairy Cor tion in Western countries. Is the poration as free gift from the Euro Government of India acting as the pean Economic Community. Sole Selling Agents of the E.E.C. that it should test the acceptability of its (b) The supply of butter oil was products in the Indian market? received from the European Econo mic Community and not from indi Another point is this. At the time vidual countries in the E.E.C. From the price was fixed at Rs. 14 per the E.E.C. in the year 1974-75, a gift kilogram initially, there was no supply of 2,590 tonnes of butter oil shortage of edible-oil in the country. was received. Another consignment Then why was such a price fixed? of 3,000 tonnes of butter oil is ex pected to be received shortly. SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: My Hon. friend has framed many This has been gifted to Govern questions. Firstly, he has mentioned ment of India under Food Aid Pro butter-oil powder. It is not a powder. gramme of E.E.C. and the sale pro This is mixed with skimmed milk for ceeds of butter oil are to be utilised recombination to be used as milk for financing dairy development pro subsequently. We have been getting jects. this as a gift, as mentioned earlier, (c) Yes, Sir. under the Food Aid Programme uf the EEC. It is not that we are beg (d) The price of butter oil was ging for it: it is given under the aid originally fixed at a low level to test programme given to various coun consumer acceptance for this new tries and we also get some of it. Now, product. The price was subsequently a huge quantity was lying with us- raised keeping in view the prevailing and it was not possible to supply it price of edible oil and ghee to ensure as milk because it had become unfit that there may be no cornering of for being used for recombination, but stocks and other mal-practices like it could however be used for direct mixing with ghee. consumption as cooking medium. It was only for that reason that it was DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: sold in the market. Because it could Very important questions arise from not be recombined it does not mean the statement the hon. Minister has that it was unfit for human consump just now made. Point" number one tion. It was fit for this purpose and is this. He says that this was a free that is why it was being sent here and gift. May I enquire, when the Euro that is why it was brought into the pean Economic Community 'gave us market and sold. a free gift, whether this powder was tested chemically to see if it was fit DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: for human consumption. Secondly, The second part of my question you say that it was shipped. Who about the price has not been ? paid for the shipping and if we did answered. 15 Oral Answers JULY II, 1977 Oral Answers 16
SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: % ^tpt f*nrr ^*tt «+> ^ We get it free up to the port in Europe and from there we have to bring it 5T5TT *fmi ^ I here.
DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: The amount realised from that sale Now, is it a fact that a consignment is used for cattle and dairy develop worth crores of rupees was destroyed ment. It is not used for any other programme but for this very pro in a fire at the godown in Bombay and if so has any enquiry been held gramme of improvement of cattle and the dairy through which we supply in this respect? Milk to the public. Secondly, it has been brought to the notice of various Members of Parlia SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: ment through the press that some We are a grejat nation and a self- times spoilt butter-oil was mixed respecting nation. I appreciate the with milk and supplied to the consu concern of the Government of India mers through the Delhi Milk Scheme— to import this butter-oil for the time that is, butter-oil which was spoilt being, but I would like to know whe and unfit for consumption was mixed ther the Government would like to with the milk and sold. review the entire policy of accepting gifts like this, because these gifts al SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: ways have some intention behind them. Regarding the last part of the ques As a self-respecting nation we should tion, it is not a fact that it had become not accept such gifts. As is ’cnown unfit for human consumption at the to the hon. Members and the hon. time when it was mixed with skimmed Minister, when a great calamity, an milk and supplied to the people. earthquake, took over China, they refused to accept any gift from any So far as the first part of the ques courftry as a self-respecting nation? tion is concerned. I will require Will the Government of India like to separate notice so that I may find review the enftire policy of accepting out "whether there (has been any such free gifts from other countries? incident or not.
aft ftn ra : t m t SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: As tfar as I know, the offer for this wr ^ aid was made when my hon. friend t f% **5 3ft S ire % w k q r flfcWT was there in the Ministry. ^ *prforr ^nnr $ *rr ^ SHRI C. *M. “STEPHEN: The ques ^ srs^f % far? tion Is whether the Government «FTT^ % 3
iree gift, why it was not distributed % ^fr srsrre fcrr | fan free through the many charitable institutions in our country. fm 3*fat ?t«n7 T • SHRI SUBJIT SINGH BARNALA: f i In so far as the quantity received is concerned, in 1974-75, we received *ft fTsftfl ftt$ 9T*r?n : fTJfl- from EEC 2590 metric tonnes and from WFB 8212 metric tonnes. In fa ^ T SJT f a ^TOT 1975-76 we did not receive anything *(*■=(< n l+inlt|( fa ^S[ sidi. »(|qn ’3TT51 from EEC, but we received 7165 f t 3TRTT | , STTCft 5T O W k ^ T rft | metric tonnes from WFP. Ia 1970-77, we have received 1782 metric tonnes 'dW^* 51? fa^TT «lini | ?ft only from WFP. It uias not sent for srret *ihct | ?fk q?rr ?r|f 11 distribution through charitable insti tutions, as it was meant for augment (am R) ip fatr eft f ^»ra f t ing the milk production in the coun spffiT, 5«f«r ^f^TT ^ftfa if g*isr try and that is what is being done. f t w ra t 11 5ft ^5 5R: ^ t‘4 ^>fff sffarft : ^TT vtft !lT5ft I fa H T 3TI51T I * f k spt =£t | % 3ft t&x 3J^ SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: We «TPT—WPt «»ml got the butter oil as a gift -----
CN ‘ fsn t SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: We are trying to catch your eye.
<*m untft | i r a ^ S ^*npr ^ t t ? t SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAJDU; . . . . In that case, why should you price it? iffcTT t — ’5H «Tcft SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: We wanted to get money out of it for ? improving the dairy industry ard the J _ milch cattle. \ ^ fnftw fa|t jtjttwt : MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ne*t 5# m if *t$ ^*ft question-—Shri Mavalankar, not here. ^ ^STT fa *n«i«Tl«4 ^ «fn>l ^ I Shri Nawab Singh Chouban. hjt sraT *raif v t ^ tf ^^t ^V^FT : W SPTT t ? | 1% f^Nt ^T ^HT fsrf^T JT^nn % fk^ru f ?rr qfT t ^ftr ^nlf fifTWT, ^TT^T vftj *T*f>f?T ^ tf H^fhr rrqT* ^fH^n | ? *N t (TTo STcTFT ^3T xFff) : fjJRft ^ft ^ft ?ftT TF 3T ^TW ^rf «(t * ftr ^rcr hon. Minister please let me know IRQ sprMHT 3?t *T$ *ft fa ^TRrVr ^»*t whether efforts are being made to ^nrrr^mft ^t^ttfe n ^i^ii cptt promote regional languages in States where Hindi is in vogue under the sft w rer ^ f r ^rr three language formula. There is a ^srf f e n ^ n w f a ^ *s^r fa * n feeling that adequate steps are not. *pjt i siwpt % ^ ywrfcpF taken to popularise regional langu ages under the three language formu SfT^T 5HNI '5TTTT— fa ff d4» 3T? la. «Ud ■d^rTi TO *T I I ^ft mtflii ^ft f^rr^rr *r ft^rm w scrtr DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- sp^ft vt from *nn i DER: I respectfully submit that this charge is not correct because about $ i t r t f ^ifjcTr i wr *k+r w ^rra- Rs. 1 crore has been offered to the srt T^t | fa ^wrrwfr State Government fcr the purpose- ^ t t «m i MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You SHRI SAMAR GUHA: The hon* please take your seat. Minister could say that he would • reply later on. There is no^question. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I want of giving notice. My query comes to know>----- from the previous question put to him. Will you direct the hon. Min MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have ister to say that the information already said that. He will answer. would be furnished later?
SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: How MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He will many institutions are running in furnish it later. He himself said. Tamilnadu for Hindi Prachar Sbaka and how much money is being spent? SHRI SAMAR GUHA: He said he DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- will need notice. I asked for fur DER: I would like notice for the de nishing information. These two are tails. different things. Information should be given, not asking for notice. For the information of this House I may say that Central Hindi Direc torate is running correspondence fpnr t o vapPT : fjpft course for teaching Hindi through 4T*fl Tamil. Originally it was planned for t sftr 3^% trt ^tt ft sflr qr ,500 students. Now there are (4000 students learning Hindi through cor 5FPT f+'d'HT ^ *rr | ? respondence course through the me wt ^ ^ ft? snrrar ifcr dium of Tamil. *ft fsp^t % ilfa ?nq% 3FPrf?PT ?f SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The TOR ?ft*T STMH I | hon. Minister said rupees one crore. | *ft far Is this sum for the whole country or for a particular State? If it is for a tft 'TG ^Tcf^K *r * ^ WJT particular State, which is that State? sriirsft Sr ^ tt t ? snr w 5r^n: Rs. one crore for 600 million people m^rr eft sqrr jtp for the development of regional lan guages is a ridiculously low amount. I 1% ^rt TOMI' f w r r ? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He re quires notice. «ft 5mrr to to : ^ q^r SHRI SAMAR GUHA: As per Con ^ 1% ^ ^t ^ stitution Hindi has a double status. It is a national language as well as T^t % I TOM I an official language. All languages TT^T tft f ^ t ^ft % Rtit are national languages. I have no ^T R ff t 1 PFkHT WTT grouse whatever is spent for the de velopment or promotion of Hindi as it is an accepted official language of W5T I *k°m 0 ¥r our country. Will hon. Minister give ^pft ^ f t *ft q^ | us the break up of the fllgures of the expenditure for improvement and sftr srcnsft tft fffcrr | 1 w h V development of other national langu »PTT *TT I ^ft fil+IHd ages in our country? ft: *TTOT % ^ ^TT I I w DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ?T ^PTT ^TTf^ DER: I require notice for that. f I ,23 Oral Answers JULY 11, 1977 Oral Answers 24
SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: It is a very SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: sensitive issue. We can’t have con Sir, my question has not been an troversy. Our friends said that equal t swered. respect should be given to all the SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: rose languages, and that Government should also promote all languages MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If four equally. A sort of shift is given by of you get up simultaneously, no the present Government. The other body can answer. day Mr. Raj Narain said something. I am happy that the hon. Prime Minis ISHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: ter rightly intervened and said about Sir, my question is: what are the it. Any sort of imposition of any steps taken by Government in the language would create sharp reaction Hindi region for promoting the South from southern States. It is an im Indian languages? portant question. I want to know DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- whether the h°n. Minister will give DER: Sir, in the three-language for attention to promote all the langu mula, a suggestion has been offered ages along with the national langu to the State Governments for the in age, Hindi. Will he promote them troduction of the South Indian lan and also spend money for promoting guages in Hindi area. But, then, it is these regional languages? I want to for the State Governments to c^rry know about the reaction of the gov out the direction. ernment on this important issue. As regards the regional languages, DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- apart from the institutions run direct DER: Answer to this question will ly by the Central Government, there also cover answer to some of the is Sahitya Academy which also en points raised by Mr. Jyotirmoy Bosu: courages the regional languages by Rs. 1 crore for each regional langu awarding prizes to the writers who age is paid. This is done through have been writing in a better way in autonomous State Textbook Board set those regional languages. Moreover, up in the regional language area. It prizes are also being awarded to the is for each regional language. people writing in their mother- tongue. They have also been writing SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: in Hindi. In this way, a lot of en May I know whether the amount couragement is being given to all the spent for development of regional different modern languages in India. languages is for translation into re gional languages? What are the steps W ZTT33 ; ^qrezr^T taken for propagating regional South- # *K+I< vH^HI g Indjan language (Tamil, Telugu, Ma- layalam and Kannada) in tl*e North? aRIT UT+fT Uf TOT | *ft stcft raindi wrfro DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- t? J^T flT+U % JTFT DBR: There is the Institute for De- vejopjnent of Modern Indian Langu t ^T ^T^T qi^TT ages which is being supervised by % qro jtW tt t the Indian Government. Apart from 3 WR *TT^ ^ STFTT % JTftf «T£T th«t help is giv*n to each regional ]aq£uag£ for text-book writing in far ft w *r wzr Sf wrft ^Tcf^m^r the regiona} languages. ^ft !F^ ft *% ? wr ^ft sftsnrt ©a, that is for the promotion of % crr^- ^ gr ^ teyMftooks for the study by the stu dents. 25 Oral Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26
WTm Vff W ATI? ^ seeds for major cereal crops in the coming years, Government have evolv ST^TTqr ^ W *^f | I ed a national programme which seeks to integrate the various stages of seed production, from research institutions M echanization of Agriculture to farmers’ fields, and provide neces sary infrastructural facilities to fcater *410. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will to seed processing, storage, quality * the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND control and marketing. Under this IRRIGATION be pleased to state: programme, it is intended to broad- (a) steps Government have taken base and diversify quality seed pro to further mechanise agriculture. duction and also to build up a reserve stock of seeds for use during periods (b) whether Government have of inadequate availability. Program taken concrete steps to increase the mes are also being drawn up to inputs in agriculture; and strengthen the facilities for produc (c) if so, the facts thereof? tion of vegetable seeds and seeds of commercial crops. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI FERTILISERS SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to To meet the rising demand for fer (c). A statement is laid on the Table tilisers, the total availability is being of the Sabha. increased by expanding the level of Statement production in the country and ar (a) Government have adopted a ranging necessary imports. The im policy of selective mechanisation, ported fertilisers are stored in over (which, without seriously affecting 600 buffer points in the country, employment opportunities in agricul Efforts are being made to open addi ture, can help farmers to lake to in tional retail outlets in the interior tensive cropping with higher yields areas, which now number about one from the same land. Most of the lakh, so as to make fertilisers easily agricultural machinery required by ^available to the cultivators. The farmers is being manufactured in the State Governments are also being country. Since it is not possible for encouraged to set up composite in small farmers to own many such put distribution centres, so that far machines, agro-service centres and mers may get seeds, fertilisers and 'custom hiring centres are being set pesticides under one roof, wherever up for giving such mechines on hire. possible. An Intensive Fertiliser Small and marginal farmers are pro Promotion Campaign has been taken vided subsidy on improved imple up in the current kharif season in ments in selected areas under the 68 selected districts, where the level Small Farmers* Development Agency of fertiliser consumption is low at Programme, Drought Prone Areas present, but the potential *for increas Programme and Tribal and Hill Areas ing the consumption is good. Development Programme. PESTICIDES (b)_ and (c). Important steps taken by the Government to increase the The manufacturing capacity of the availability and consumption of ma pesticides industry as well as con jor inputs, namely, seeds, fertilizers sumption of pesticides has consider and pesticides and irrigation water, ably increased over the years. All are as follows: __ £lant protection materials are, by and ‘SEEDS large, easily available within the country through approximately 52000 ‘Keeping in view the expected in sales points. Subsidy under various crease in the requirement of quality Schemes is being given to small and 27 ° rfll Answers JULY 11, 1977 Oral Answers 28 marginal farmers for the purchase of cultural machines like the harvester plant protection equipments. Finan combines in the State of Punjab and cial assistance for ground and aerial Haryana has often led to increase in spraying against pests and diseases unemployment among the rural wor of commercial crops is also being ex kers. This is one aspect. The other tended to the farmers. aspect is the one to which I have re ferred just now, namely, the inability IRRIGATION of the ordinary* farmers, marginal Realising the important role of ir farmers and other rural sections of rigation programmes, efforts are be the society, to use the improved agri cultural implements. ing made to accelerate their imple mentation to the maximum extent I want to know whether Govern possible. The Public Sector outlays ment are taking any serious steps in axe being (supplemented by institu order to reduce the unemployment as tional funds in the case of minor ir far as possible ___ rigation. For 1977-78, it is expected that an additional irrigation poten MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you tial of 1.79 million hectares from go on extending this question, then the minor irrigation and 1.3 million hec Question Hour will be over. tares from major and medium irriga SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: tion would be created. As my hon. friend has pointed out, I SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Sir, the had mentioned that holdings all over hon. Minister has made a written the country are growing smaller and statement. From the statement, I smaller; already we have about 13 find that Government have adopted a million holdings with an area of 1 is policy of selective mechanisation, equal to 2 hectares and 13 million whi^h, without seriously affecting holdings between 2 is equal to 5 hec ^employment opportunities in agricul tares. That is why larger machines ture, can help farmers to take to in cannot be purchased by the farmers tensive cropping with higher yields and operated by them. So we have irom the same land. started agro service centres. At pre sent there are 2900 agro service cen tres from where they can hire Now, Sir, we find in relation to machines. Similarly there are 310 mechanisation, that it is confined to centres of state agro industries cor a small section of the rural peasants. poration; they are also working. My So far as ordinary peasants are con hon. friend also pointed out about cerned, they are not even getting the harvesting. Machines used in Pun improved implements; they are not in jab and Haryana and he says these a better financial position. Though in cause the problem of unemployment the statement it has been stated that of agriculture labour; that is incor agro-service centres are being set up rect. The machines are used to va to cater to the requirements of the cate the fields so that the next cmp small farmers, the fact is that a num may be sown after that otherwise the ber of small marginal farmers in our season would be lost. People are in country are denied the benefit of a hurry. In Punjab and Haryana these modern agricultural imple there is no problem of unemployment ments. On the other hand, the of agriculture labour as such in har mechanisation which is confined to vesting season. selective areas often leads to unem ployment among the agricultural SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: With re workers. gard to agriculture inptfts the hon. Minister has mentioned a series of So, my question is about the two steps. I want to know whether any aspects of mechanisation—use of agri steps are being taken to reduce the 29 Oral Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30
additional irrigation potential proposed sir^d qr ^rreft % ft N to be created in the next year from major irrigation is about 1.3 million srfir+ f, liwtf ^ ft <3 0 - hectares. Will the additional irrigation <*11 PntiM ^ I “HI ^ potential be utilised by the farmers sra cf^t *t*rt qr sft frt^ t? » fully?
SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: «ft fa? ^TMT : ft So far as the first question is concern ed, while replying to the debate in craT ^T, *PR OTT t m I the House on the demands, 1 had mentioned that for this crop (i.e. Kharif) we are not in a position to reduce the price of fertilisers. How ever, we are keeping a watch on the SHORT NOTICE QUESTION prices. Regarding the second ques tion, I have mentioned that about 3 million hectares of land is being Discussion between U.S.A. and brought under irrigation, small, U.S.S.R. on limitation of Military medium and major. I shal see that activities in the Indian Ocean maximum utilisation is made of this entire land under irrigation. Our + effort is to utilise as much as possible S.N.Q. 15 DR. MURLI MANOHAR all the existing irrigation facilities. JOSHI: SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: : ft faftTHT % SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA *THTT ^ fiF *To tfto ft S. DEO; SHRI CHITTA BASU: ^ ^ 3 ^ 15 ^ forr 12 ^ f%qT I iftX Will the Minister of EXTERNAL ^ | | ^TT AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
(a) whether Government's attention has been drawn to a news-item pub % WT ^ qft ^ frqT lished in the Statesman of June 29, ? 1977 in which it has been reported that the Governments of U.S.A. and grafta fa? ^ smr U.S.S.R. have discussed the question of limitation of military activities in *Nt sn*n f% f e r ^t the Indian Ocean region; and u f 12 f e n ? (b) if so, the reaction of the Indian few 5TTTRHT : ^ % Government thereon? ft +^1 ^ 1 THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI ATAL BIHARI SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: VAJPAYEE): (a) Yes, Sir. That does not arise out of this ques tion. (b) The Government of India hope «ft TPT mVQ : frfq- ft^TT that the dialogue will continue and the participants will adopt a construc 3PT|[ *T<+lO‘ gTTT FnftRT tive and positive approach to the pro blem and achieve results which would fnn ^ ft1 qrfr ^ frfa facilitate the establishment of the Zone of Peace in the Indian Ocean in o ft f*nft ^J?r frfa accordance with the U.N. resolutions. 31 Oral Answers JULY 11, 1977 Oral Answers ^ 32
DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: there are 8 military bases of the It is a very important queseion re United States. There is a real threat lating to Indian security. May I ask to the littoral States from these mili the Minister to inform the House tary bases. Soviet Union, in the 31st whether the opinion of the Indian Session of United Nations Assemblyr Government was sought at any level declared that they do not have any at any stage by any of these two military base in the Indian Ocean. It Super Powers regarding this vital is for you to verify. The United matter and if so, what steps the Gov States are holding 8 military bases ernment of India are taking for main especially very close to India like taining Indian Ocean as a zone of Diego Garcia where they have extend peace either singly or in conjunction ed the run-way to 12000 ft. They with the littoral countries directly have even threatened to use the new related with the Indian Ocean? ly developed neutron weapons. How can you leave thi6 matter to those SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: two States alone? In this connection, Sir, it depends on the Super Powers I would like to know from the hon. viz., the USA and the USSR to ar Minister whether it is a fact that the rive at an agreement so that Indian United States are negotiating with Qcean can be made a zone of peace. Bangladesh to have a naval base at India is being consulted informally. St. Martin Island. Then India will Our views are well known and when be covered by two very close naval ever the occasion arises, we have im bases maintained by the United States pressed upon both the Super Powers and it is a real threat to the peace. rthe desirability of expediting the ne What is the reaction of the Govern gotiations in this regard. ment of India to it? Secondly, I would like to know whether the Gov DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: ernment of India will take continuous Now in view of the development of initiative and leadership to mobilise the very dangerous weapons like the forces of littoral States to see jjneutron bomb and laser beam i.e., that the entire demilitarisation and death-ray, what precautions are the the demolition of the military bases Government of India taking for safe- in Indian Ocean is done. -guarding the misuse of these wea pons from the military bases situated SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE. in Indian Ocean? I entirely agree with the hon. Mem ber that it is the littoral and hinter SHRI ATAL BIHARl VAJPAYEE: land countries which are vitally con This hardly arises out of this ques cerned with the question of Indian tion. If there is demilitarisation in Ocean being made a zone of peace. the Indian Ocean and if there is an The overwhelming majority of the agreement between the two Super littoral countries have made their Powers on tEe limitation of the arma views known through the United Na ments, so far as the Indian Ocean is tions...... and the forum of Nonalign tioncerned, 1 hope this danger, which ed nations. We would like all bases my hon. Friend is pointing out, will in the Indian Ocean to be dismantled not be there. and all military presence of the Super Powers eliminated. But we have to SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: It is sur face facts as they are. it is for the prising that the Minister leaves the Super Powers to come to some sort entire question of peace in Indian of agreement on this question. So far Ocean to the Super Powers viz., the as the pressure of the littoral and TJSA and the USSR. It is primarily hinterland countries is concerned, it and basically a matter concerned with is being felt I think it is the pres the littoral States especially India. sure of the Non-Aligned Group and Hight from Ethiopia upto Australia other countries which has led to the 33 Oral Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 34
negotiations by the Super Powers on the Tribune of 2nd February, which the Indian Ocean question. I hope reads as follows: the talks will succeed and the Indian Ocean will eventually become a zona “The Soviet Navy sends one suad- of peace. So far as the question of ron in winter months, compared to • America acquiring a base in the Bay an annual average of three task of Bengal is concerned, I am sorry forces by the US Navy. The Soviet I have no information at the moment. aim, according to some western analysts, is political rather than SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: These ne military. The Soviet presence is gotiations are not regarding military basically reactive and defensive bases. They are about keeping it nature.” as a zone of peace. How do you de pend upon these negotiations? May I know the reaction of the Gov SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: ernment to this opinion expressed by I am not depending on anything; I the Institute of Defence Studies? am only depending on the strength of my country. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Sir, I am grateful to the hon. Member SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: I have not for all the information that he has made any insinuation. I am sorry I given to me. I have also read the have been misunderstood. I want a article in Tribune. So far as the clarification. . . . question of developing facilities in Diego Garcia is concerned, the Gov MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri ernment of India is aware that re Chitta Basu. cently $ 7 million have been allocated for the extension of Diego Garcia by SHRI CHITTA BASU: May I know the United States of America. whether the Minister is aware of the The hon. Member referred to M*- fact that (a) there has been a fresh sirah. Masirah is an air base in Oman rise in the US build-up in Diego built by the United Kingdom. The Garcia, (b) there have been voyages U.S.A. is reported to be negotiating of US fleet consisting of nuclear- for using these facilities for its air powered aircraft, carrier task force craft. So far as the question of India’s and P-3 task force, and (c) there has position being made unequivocably been new acquisition of bases in Ma- and unmistakably clear, I do not sirah by USA, even after Mr. Carter’s think that there is any doubt in the declaration about demilitarisation of world .about India's position ahd I the Indian Ocean? In this conext, may hope the hon. Member will not have I know whether the Government of any doubt in this regard. India is considering to express firmly and unequivocally the opinion that, the USA should immediately dismantle SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU :‘-J: Will all the bases in the Indian Ocean and the hon. Minister kindly tell us! that stop all voyages into the Indian Ocean in spite of . the fact that the United "in order to create a pre-condition for Nations had adopted a Resolution 'demilitarisation of the Indian Ocean very clearly stating that Indian' Ofeean 'and successful conclusion of the USA- should1 be kept* as a zone of'pfefcce, USSR talks? Secondly, may I know the Americans are building up without whether the attention of the Govern any restraint in Diego Garcia and in ment of India has been drawn to an many other places. If you get ' the opinion expressed by the Institute map of the world defence7 you will for Defence Studies and Analysis of be able tp see the military build-up our country in an article contributed that, they are going through. Ip that by Mr. J. P. Anand and published in context, would you kindlv tell us what 1421 L S — 2 pressure has +he Government of India 35 Oral Answers JULY 11, 1977 Oral Answers 36 put on the United States of America SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- to include China in the dialogue in NAN: It was necessary because of his keeping the Indian Ocean as a zone saying 'informal consultations'. of peace. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you start quoting in the Question Hour, it SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: will be difficult. * Sir, India would like to use persua sion instead of pressure in interna SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- tional affairs. So far as the question NAN: This has arisen out of his refer of China is concerned, India will be ence to informal consultations. Since happy if all Big Powers and major this discussion has taken place before maritime powers including China join the issuing of this communique, what hands in making the Indian Ocean a has the Indian Government done, from zone of peace. its side, to pursue the commitment that is there in this communique, viz. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- that efforts will be made in order to NAN: The hon. Minister said that it have a conference of the littoral is between the two Super Powers to States on equal footing, in order to come to some kind of arrangement. bring about a solution? It is not only When it is absolutely clear from the the Super Powers—as he calls them; statement made by the Soviet Union I do not call them so—which are con at the U.N. General Assembly when cerned. the Resolution referred to by Mr. Jyotirmoy Bosu was being discussed that they have never had and have SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE. no intention of having military bases I do not see any contradiction in my in the Indian Ocean and the only reply to Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi, which was in the context of talks thing is that they need this highway for the European part of the USSR which were held recen'ly between the to have sea connection with the far- USA anci USSR. India has been kept eastern part of the USSR, I would like informed informally about the talks; to know how it is that the Minister but the lady Member referred to the said that informal discussions have joint communique (Interruptions) — taken place when in the joint Indo- most hon. lady Member. For a bache Soviet communique issued during Mr. lor, some ladies are more honourable Gromyko’s visit in April, 1977 than others. But all the lady Mem there is a specific reference to the bers in the House are honourable— Indian Or«ant where it says: after the visit of the Soviet Foreign Minister. On the question of Indian Ocean; our views coincide—both "The two sides reaffirm their Soviet Russia and India agree that readiness to participate together all foreign bases should be dismantled with all States concerned on an and foreign military presence elimi equal basis and in conformity with nated. So far as question of calling the generally recognised rules of a conference of littoral countries is international law in efforts leading concerned, I am afraid no useful pur to the early establishimest of the pose will be served, unless all the Indian Ocean as a zone of peace. great powers and major maritime Both sides stand for the elimination users agree to join such a conference. of all existing military bases from A Committee of the United Nations is the Indian Ocean and the prohibi working in this direction. I hope the tion of new ones.” efforts will succeed and such a con ference will take place. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I would appeal to the hon. Members not to DR. HENRY AUSTIN: Is the Gov keep on giving quotations. ernment aware of the statement f 37 Oral Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 3»
issued by the Australian Prime Min presence of big powers in the Indian ister Mr. Fraser recently after his Ocean.i .meeting with the U.S. President that the military preparations being made SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Who in Diego Garcia will be continued? will check all that? W e know that some time after the American President had assumed SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: •office, he is on record as sying that So far as the littoral countries are the installations in Diego Garcia concerned, the resolution of the -would be dismantled. But after this United Nations is there and we would interview with the Australian Prime welcome if all bases are dismantled. Minister, it seems he has softened his position; and he is also on record now as saying according tQ report that SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: those installations "will be maintained. I want information on three aspects The Moscow, calks have been, not for ef the matter. The first one is whe the purpose of dismantling them in ther the objective before the Work pursuance of his earlier statement, ing Group set up by Moscow and but only for maintaining the status Washington remains complete demi litarization of +he Indian Ocean zone, quo, or perhaps for having a modus vivendi with other powers, to keep as declared by President Carter, or it is now limited to stabilising the the status quo—if I can put it that status quo, or achieving a freeze of way. This is not an isolated question. the balance in the Indian Ocean. The It has been mentioned in the declar second is whether it is the Govern ation of the Independence of Djibouti by France that they will maintain a ment’s opinion that there is less of military force there. ( Interruptions) competition now in the Indian Ocean area. Thirdly, I want to know whe There are reports from Iran that they ther the two Super Powers have ex have negotiated with the U.S. to get pressed any desire to hold talks, con seven airborne radar sysems. All sultations, with India on this separ these are connected with Diego ately. Garcia. Also, in Pakistan it is stated that 25 nuclear processing installa tions are going to be set up as part SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: of a phased programme. At the beginning, President Carter in a statement on March 9, 1977, indicat MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: What is ed that he favoured the demilitariza your question? tion of the Indian Ocean and listed it among the questions to be taken up DR. HENRY AUSTIN: Is the Gov by his Secretary of State in Moscow. ernment aware of the fact that the The talks were held between June 22 decision of the U.N. to keep the and 27 but no formal statement has Indian Ocean a zone of peace is com- been issued after the talks. However, Dletelv ignored by the escalation of the Soviet news agency Tass issued military preparation in Diego Garcia? a statement, w hich brought out that the two sides discussed “ limitation of SHRI ATAL BEHARI VAJPAYEE: armaments in the Indian Ocean” and I have seen the statement made by that they “agreed to meet again". the hon. Prime Minister of Australia, to which the hon. Member made a SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: reference. T would like to say that So, it is down-graded? President Carter has never promised * to dismantle Diego Garcia. All that SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: he has promised is that there should Yes, that is what it appears. It is be demilitarisation and that there very difficlut for me to say anything should be limitation on the military definite on the second point. 39 Written Answers JULY 11, 1977 Written Answers 40
SQRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: an extension of the desert and The third question remains unanswered whether the proposals have been for whether the super-powers have ex warded by tjfca State Government to pressed a desire to hold separate con the Central Government for their sultations with India on this subject. urgent consideration, approval and financial assistance; and • SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Both Super Powers have had consul Otjp if so, Government’s response tations with India separately, thereto?
SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE There are two parts to my question. IRRIGATION (SHRI SUBJIT According to our Government’s infor SINGH ■ (b) and (b). On. mation, what is the present military the basis of iuT av? ilable information, strength naval base etc. of USA and and appraisal of thC terrain USSR in the Indian Ocean? Second conditions of the deseiV areas of ly the hon. Minister has just now Kutch, it is felt that the de.Tertv®f Stated that he will be happy if there Kutch is not showing any perceptiuVe is agreement. I cannot agree with indications of movement southwards in the hon. Minister on this, because they the Saurashtra region. However, there can agree on the limitation of naval are problems of salinity ingress along base; that is possible. Sof can he the Runn Border. During the sum assure this House that the Government mer, winds from the desert carry dust will not be satisfied unless this and clay particles laden with salt and zone is made completely a peace deposit the same on fertile inland" agri zone? cultural tracts. j
SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: (c) The State Forest Department is May I reply to the second part of the implementing a programme of affores question first by saying emphatically tation along the borders of Runn of “Yes” ? India will not be satisfied Kutch. The plantations are being with anything less than the Indian raised from the beginning of First Ocean being made a zone of peace. Five Year Plan. An area of 28697 ha. But so far as the details of the ships has been planted up upto the end of in the Indian Ocean or the relative IV Plan, to serve as a buffer green strength of the big powers is concerned* belt to protect marginal fields against I am sorry, I do not have the details. deposition of fine salt-laden dust par ticles picked up from the Runn by strong winds. The Fifth Plan target is planting up of 5000 has of additional WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS area at a cost of Rs. 41.29 lakhs." There is no afforestation scheme in Kutch Desert side the Runn as experiments done so* *408. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: far have hot proved successful under Will the Minister of AGRICtTLTURE the conditions prevailing in the Runn. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to 6tate: The State Government of Gujarat have sent the following proposals:— T r* .i, (a) whether the desert of Kutch is (i) Provision of irrigation facilu steadily extending southwards in the Saurashtra region of Gujarat; ties in Kutch, Saurashtra and large tracts of North Gujarat. (b) if so, facts thereof; (II) d o se plantation/of Prosopis (c) whether the State Government juliftora which reduces the salinity of Gujarat have prepared certain thereby making the area suitable schemes and projects to arrest such for raising agricultural crop*. 41 V/ritten Answers ASADHA 20. 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers
(d) The proposals of ~ the State Gov may be required by the President; ernment aire under consideration. and (iii) to advise the Council in dis ciplinary matters relating to person, Agricultural Service Recruitment nel recruited/appointed either by Board Ihe Council itself or in consultation with the Board. *411. SHRI DHARAMVIR VASI- SHT: Will the Minister of AGRI (c) A statement giving the requi CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be site information is laid on the table of pleased to state: the House.
(a) the date on which Agricultural (d) Yes, Sir. Recommendations of Services Recruitment Board was the Agricultural Scientists Recruit constituted and on whose advice; ment Board have been accepted by the (b) the functions of the Board; President of I.C.A.R., who is the Con trolling Authority for Agricultural (c) the method of assessing the Research Service. merits of the agricultural scientists together with the number of officers Statement selected during the last three years; and Appointments to the Agricultural Research Service are made by— (d) whether selections of the Board were invariably accepted by the Gov- (a) direct recruitment to Grade 'ernment, and if not, reasons there S-l of the Service in the scale o f for? Rs. 700—1300 through open compe titive examination; THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (b) Lateral entry through adver SURJIT SINGH BARNALA)): (a) The tisement and interview; and Agricultural Scientists Recruitment Board was set up as a result of the (c) promotion on the basis of me decision of the Government of India rit, irrespective of occurrence of on the recommendations of a group vacancies through a system of five- of Ministers appointed by the Central yearly assessment of performance Cabinet under the Chairmanship of of the existing scientists. the Minister of Agriculture, the late Shri Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed. The 2. The Agricultural Scientists Rec Board came into existence on the 7th ruitment Board have held two compe December, 1973. titive examinations so far and have selected 897 scientists for Grade S -l (b) The functions of the Board, of the Service. The Board have which is an independent recruiting also selected 510 scientists for various Agency for the Indian Council of higher grades of the Service by ad Agricultural Research, are:— vertisement and interview. As these selections were made post by post, (i) to make recruitment to posts only the nair.es of the scientists who in the Agricultural Research Ser were found most suitable were re vice and to such other posts and commended for appointment to the services as may be specified by the Council by the Agricultural Scientists President of the Council from time Recruitment Board. to time; 3. As regards appointments by pro (ii) to render such other , assist motion, irrespective of occurrence of ance to the Council in personnel vacancies, the Agricultural Scientists matters including promotion, as Recruitment Board have taken up the 43 Written Answers JULY 11, 1977 " Written Answers 44. first five-yearly assessment of all eligi Inter Science and XII standard. ble scientists of the Service. So Exams, m Maharashtra during 1977- far, the Board have recommended 78 ; promotion of about 450 scientists and are considering the case of several (b) whether the sanctioned strength hundred more scientists. The assess of seats in Engineering Colleges of ment is being done through Commit Maharashtra is insufficient to accom tees of eminent scientists belonging to modate the increased demand; and various disciplines. Emphasis in the (c) what decision Government have assessment is being laid on the con taken on the proposal by the Maha tributions and achievements of the rashtra State Government to increase individual in relation to the require the number of seats in Engineering ments of the job and the duties Colleges? assigned to the post for which he was recruited. The documents which are THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, taken into consideration while mak SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ing the assessment are— (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. (i) Five-year Assessment pro forma filled by the concerned scien (c) The matter was discussed with, tists ana reviewed by the senior the State Government to whom cer scientist under whom he worked; tain suggestions were made. In the light of these discussions, the State (ii) Research Project File main Government is working out the details tained by the scientist; of increasing the intake for this year. (iii) Bio-data and career infor mation of the scientists; and Crop Rotation (iv) Confidential Character Rolls for the past five years. *413. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Opportunity is also given to the IRRIGATION be pleased to state: scientist to appear before the Assess ment Committee for a personal dis (a) whether Scientists of Haryana cussion if he so desires. The discus Agricultural University are of the sion is not of a routine or formal type view that continuous crop rotation im of interview to judge the theoretical pairs the soil fertility if balanced knowledge and academic calibre of fertilisation is not done; and tunity to him to project his work (b) if so, facts thereof? but is intended to provide an oppor- the scientist, and achievements during THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL the period under assessment as TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI well as to clarify and elaborate any SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) specific aspect of his work. Yes, Sir. (b) In the trials conducted by the Scientists of Haryana Agricultural Increase in number of Seafe In University, in plots which received Engineering College In Nitrogen and Potassium only, wheat Maharashtra grain yield continued to show a down •412. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN ward trend, from 29.3 q per ha in DIT: Will the Minister of EDUCA 1971-72 to 13.4 q per ha in 1975-76. In TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND plots which received the three major CULTURE be pleased to state: nutrients namely Nitrogen, Potas sium and Phosphorus, the yields were (a) whether there is a big increase above 32.3 q/ha. So also application In the number of students passing of Zinc sulphate at 25 K g per ha, in 45 Written Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 46 1 addition to NPK, gave on an average (a) whether many refugees from additional yield of 3 to -5 q/ha of - former East Pakistan, who have been • wheat, over the application of full kept for years in different refugee doses of NPK. camps made repeated appeals to the Government for their -rehabilitation The above data illustrate the need in Andaman and Nicobar group of for judicious and balanced fertilisation Islands; of crops. (b) whether the Central Govern ment had constituted a very high powered Committee to study in depth Government Accommodation for emp the issue of rehabilitation of former loyees owning houses East Pakistan refugees in Andaman Islands; j, *414. CHOWDHRY BALBIR SINGH: (c) whether that Committee re SHRI MEETHA LAL PATEL: commended to the Government for taking steps to rehabilitate 150,000 WiU the Minister of WORKS AND refugees by 1972 in Andaman Islands; HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE HABILITATION be pleased to state: (d) if so, facts about the recom mendation of the Central High Power (a) whether Government have al Committee and the extent of imple lowed the house owning employees mentation of its recommendation; and of Central Government to retain their Government accommodation; (e) the present policy and pro gramme of rehabilitation of East (b) whether certain associations of Pakistan refugees in the Andaman employees of Central Government Islands? |], have protested against this decision; ard THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (c) whether Government propose to HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE reconsider this decision? HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. Some repre THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND sentations were received from refuge HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE es of two camps, viz., Deoli and HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Tawa Projects, for rehabilitation in BAKHT): (a) The house-owning Andaman Islands. officers are eligible for allotment of Government accommodation oh cer (b) Yes, Sir. An Inter-Departmen tain terms and conditions. tal Committee was constituted in 1964. (b) Yes, Sir. (c) No, Sir. (c) No, Sir. That Committee re commended reclamation of land in Andaman Island for rehabilitating about 6250 families of migrants/re Rehabilitation of refugees in Anda patriates by the end of IVth Plan. man and Nicobar islands (d) The Committee also recommen- *415. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will ded_for subsequent Plans the reclama the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS tion7 of land for resettlement of ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI about 10fc000 migrant/repatriate fami TATION be pleased to state: lies. Written Answers JULY 11, 1977 Written Answers 48
The upto-date extent of i mplemendation is as below: ^
Name o f Island Area reclaimed Families ixttled
(i) Middle Andaman . . 2050 acres 339 migrant families frc m ft imer Eatt Pakistan.
(ii) Neil ..... 1090 acres 100 migrant families from ft rmer East Pakistan.
(iii) Little Andaman . . . 2284 acres 381 families (366 migrant families frcm farmer East Pakistan and 15 repatriate families from Sri Lanka).
T o t a l . 54^4 acres 820 families
(e) The present policy is to under THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND take rehabilitation only to the extent HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE land is released for deforestation for HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR this purpose, which is regulated by BAKHT): (a) to (e). 7792.251 sq. consideration of ecological factors. metres of land in Dr. Rajendra Prasad During the current financial year, 415 Road institutional area was allotted acres of land have been released to to Jawahar Bhavan Trust for AH India rehabilitate sixty migrant/repatriate Congress Committee Headquarters families in Little Andaman. and bungalows No. 3, Raisima Road and Nos. 2 & 4, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road were sold to them.
Sfites allotted or sold to A ll India In addition, a number of residential Congress Committee units were allotted on rent to A.I.C.C. and its wings as per statement enclos •416. SHRI SHIV SAMPATI RAM: ed. Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE Land was allotted at the rate of HABILITATION be pleased to state: Rs. 149.50 per sq. metre and the bun (a) the number and other parti galows were sold at the depreciated culars of various sites allotted or cost mentioned below: sold to All India Congress Committee (iJ)Rs. 90,212/1- for 3, Raisina and its different wings; ' Road. (b) the price at which sold or the (ii) Rs. 1,18,980/- for 2 & 4 Dr. rent being charged for the sites so Rajendra Prasad Road. allotted or sold; The rate for land is too low. Resi (c) whether Government have en dential units were given on rent as sured that this price or rent is not per policy of Government and devia too low; tions made have been indicated in the statement laid on theTable of the (d) the extent to which the AICC House. [Placed in Library. See No. or their different wings are in arrears LT-660/77]. of rent or have not so far paid the sale price and the steps taken to re Premium for land, depreciated cost cover the same; and of bungalows and ground rent for one year have been paid by the A. I. C. C. (e) whether Government propose for the Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road ins to look into each such case of sale or titutional area plots. They are, how allotment and take appropriate action, ever, in arrears of rent to the extent and if so, the particulars thereof? of Rs. 30,161.21 in respect of the 49 Written Answers ASADHA 20, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 50
buildings rented out to them by this Fstwt, n il* Ministry. Necessary action is being \aken towards recovery of the arrears. ( »to sum ’arcr *rcr ) : ( v ) *r (>r). ttcit sr^sr f ^ t vm The Government propose to look ’fllMM % 1 9 7 4 -7 5 fPP % Hwt into these cases and take appropriate action after the examination is comp Hisl vion m Slli firfWrT ?i<9ihOfHT lete. ?> | fWT 1 9 7 5 -7 6 % ^T^T4^R TfT | I *TEJT % w+n;*iY Uniform Service Conditions of Univer % 1 973—74 5Rt % 'iftftm Hr«T sities' employees tft TT sft | I *417. SHRIMATI AHILYA P. RANGNEKAR: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE fqvqfqsji^i) ^t ffp^t AND CULTURE be pleased to state: VTTRTt it 4fd+ faRf«r (a) whether Government are con Wi^ShT STRtfarT % JPrPtcT TTJ^T sidering to form uniform service con ditions/rules for non-teaching em T O K f qft ployees of the Universities all over 3TTrft | I TT3JT +K+KVW 5TC7T f^ t the country; and IPFRTft 5P> 5PRPT §rft | I (b) if so, when and details thereof? THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) No, Sir. vwiMf, g*iTiiii ?nn % ftqfvr (b) Does not arise. % VTT^T vt
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