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House of Commons Debates VOLUME 148 Ï NUMBER 431 Ï 1st SESSION Ï 42nd PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Tuesday, June 11, 2019 Speaker: The Honourable Geoff Regan CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) 28883 HOUSE OF COMMONS Tuesday, June 11, 2019 The House met at 10 a.m. ment Operations and Estimates, entitled “Improving the Federal Public Service Hiring Process”. *** Prayer POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES ACT ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Mr. Don Davies (Vancouver Kingsway, NDP) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-456, An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act and Ï (1005) the Canada Student Financial Assistance Act. [English] He said: Mr. Speaker, I am honoured to rise today to introduce an OFFICE OF THE TAXPAYERS' OMBUDSMAN important bill to Parliament, the post-secondary education financial Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the assistance for persons with disabilities act, with thanks to the hon. Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): member for Windsor—Tecumseh for seconding it. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the Taxpayers' Ombudsman annual This legislation will provide tuition-free post-secondary education report, entitled “Breaking Down Barriers to Service”. for all Canadians with disabilities. This bill is a result of the vision of a bright young man from my riding of Vancouver Kingsway, Sanjay *** Kajal. Sanjay is the 2019 winner of my annual create your Canada contest. He hopes that this bill will help all Canadians with GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS disabilities reach their full potential, by eliminating tuition as a Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the financial barrier to accessing post-secondary education. This is not Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): only fundamentally just, but it is an investment in our citizens. It will Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), I have the honour to level the playing field and help Canadians who need it the most. table, in both official languages, the government's responses to 25 petitions. I hope that all Parliamentarians will help Sanjay realize his vision for a better Canada. *** (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE *** TRANSPORT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITIES Mr. Ken Hardie (Fleetwood—Port Kells, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE have the pleasure to present, in both official languages, the 31st HUMAN RESOURCES, SKILLS AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE report of the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and STATUS OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES Communities, entitled “Bus Passenger Safety”. Mr. Blake Richards (Banff—Airdrie, CPC): Mr. Speaker, I There are some considerable public policy issues found in the move that the 14th report of the Standing Committee on Human facts of this report, and the recommendations certainly bear review, Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons because the obvious answers to bus safety in Canada are not so with Disabilities, presented on Thursday, February 7, 2019, be obvious when looking at the technical issues that are involved. I concurred in. encourage everyone with an interest in this topic to review this report carefully. As I rise today to seek concurrence in the 14th report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND ESTIMATES Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, entitled Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, “Supporting Families After the Loss of a Child”, I have one CPC): Mr. Speaker, it is my honour to table, in both official message: The time for action is now. It is not time for further debate, languages, the 17th report of the Standing Committee on Govern- for foot-dragging or for fancy political spin. We need action. 28884 COMMONS DEBATES June 11, 2019 Routine Proceedings We have been presented with a clear solution, a clear path wink, nudge-nudge way, that if she could get her doctor to put some forward. Anything less than action on the part of the government other reason, she might be able to qualify. does a disservice to the parents who need our immediate help, our compassion and our assistance. We should also think about the story of Rachel and Rob Samulack from here in Ottawa. Their son, Aaron Isaiah Robert Peters The journey of Motion No. 110 began about four years ago, when Samulack, was born on June 19, 2016, and spent 100 precious a family in my constituency of Banff—Airdrie reached out to me to minutes with his family after his birth. He passed away surrounded share their story and ask for help. It was a story of heartbreak. It is by love in the arms of his parents. one that has remained firmly imprinted on me. It is one that no parent, no person, should ever have to experience. Ï (1010) Sarah and Lee Cormier welcomed Quinn, a beautiful baby girl, Rachel and Rob were also forced to tell their heartbreaking story into the world in 2014. Four short months later, heartbreak and grief many, many times, to numerous Service Canada agents, in fighting struck the family when she passed away suddenly in her sleep. While for the benefits to be able to have an opportunity to grieve. Rachel they were experiencing any parent's worst nightmare, the grief, the was ultimately forced to return to work well before she was ready to shock, the pain that comes with that, they were were also being do so. forced to deal immediately with cold, heartless, bureaucratic federal government processes. There is also the story of Gillian Hato from Alberta. She was told by federal officials that she had to go in person to the bank to repay They would be required to immediately return to work. The the benefits; she was not able to do that online. There was no other parental benefit was cut off on the day Quinn passed. If they did not option than to go there in person while she was in the deepest throes immediately inform the federal government of the loss and of grief. She testified to the committee that she could not bear to go subsequently received payments, they would have been required to out in public. She was not near ready to do that yet. She was repay them. We can well imagine that in that period, this is not the physically ill in the bank parking lot, thinking about the idea of first thing on a person's mind. Repayment would have to be done in having to go inside to repay those benefits. She was in a small town, person as well, as there is no other way to do it. It cannot be done and she knew that when she went inside, she would be asked where online or any other way. Notifying the government could not even be her newborn baby was. done over the phone. There is the story of Jens and Kerstin Locher, who lost their son After making many calls to Service Canada, waiting on hold and Tobias. Jens testified at committee about this excruciating experi- then explaining their painful story over and over again, they were ence. They went into Service Canada; there was no way they could informed that they were required, in the height of their grief, to drive control the times and the terms of where they had to tell their story. I down to a Service Canada office, stand in line and present their will quote from his testimony. He stated: daughter's death certificate. After Tobias died, we had to make arrangements with Service Canada to organize Lee Cormier testified the following at committee: my wife's maternity leave. During this difficult time, we had to leave our safe home where we could hide and venture out into the world to file some paperwork. We had Quinn died on December 28. On January 3 we had her funeral and on January 5 to stand in the open-plan office and explain our situation. Not only that, but several we stood in line at Service Canada. The employee told us we were lucky that we years later...we received a letter from Service Canada stating that we had claimed too didn't have to pay back the next week's benefit. The words she used were 'Your child much money. It took multiple phone calls and letters over several months to clear up ceases to exist, so therefore the benefits will cease to exist.' with staff that we had not committed any type of fraud for this overpayment. We had simply requested the time to start immediately after Tobias' death, which was on a Let us think about those words and what it would mean to hear weekend, and my wife did not go back to work on Monday. them when grieving the loss of a child: “Your child ceases to exist, Due to some system settings, the EI system automatically adjusted the start date so therefore the benefits will cease to exist.” This is what they were from the Monday that we had requested to the Monday of the following week. We told by a federal government employee. No grieving parent should didn't pick up on it, and my wife's employer started the week we had requested, so ever have to experience what the Cormiers did. there was this one-week gap. We then had to explain over several months that we were entitled to the 15 weeks but that there was this discrepancy. Unfortunately, the Cormiers are not alone in their experience of this cold, heartless bureaucratic process.