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Third Session - Thirty-Sixth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authorityof The Honourable Louise M. Dacquay Speaker Vol. XLVII No. 62 -1:30 p.m., Tuesday, June 17, 1997 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Sixth Legislature Member Constituency Political Aff"iliation ASHTON, Steve Thompson N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky Wellington N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen, Hon. Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUA Y, Louise, Hon. Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard, Hon. Rob lin-Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary Concordia N.D.P. DOWNEY, James, Hon. Arthur-Virden P.C. DRIEDGER, Albert Steinbach P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry, Hon. Lakeside P.C. ERNST, Jim Charleswood P.C. - EVANS, Clif Interlake N.D.P. EVANS, Leonard S. Brandon East N.D.P. FILMON, Gary, Hon. Tuxedo P.C. FINDLAY, Glen, Hon. Springfield P.C. FRIESEN, Jean Wolseley N.D.P. GAUDRY, Neil St. Boniface Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold, Hon. Minnedosa P.C. HEL WER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon Ind. KOWALSKI, Gary The Maples Lib. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster N.D P LATHLIN, Oscar The Pas PC. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert N.D.P. MACKINTOSH, Gord St. Johns N.D.P. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows P.C. McALPINE, Gerry Sturgeon Creek P.C. McCRAE, James, Hon. Brandon West N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane Osborne P.C. MciNTOSH, Linda, Hon. Assiniboia N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn St. James P.C. MITCHELSON, Bonnie, Hon. River East P.C. NEWMAN, David, Hon. Riel P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PITURA, Frank, Hon. Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren, Hon. Lac du Bonnet P.C. RADCLIFFE, Mike, Hon. River Heights N.D.P. REID, Daryl Transcona P.C. REIMER, Jack, Hon. Niakwa P.C. RENDER, Shirley St. Vital N.D.P. ROBINSON, Eric Rupertsland P.C. ROCAN, Denis Gladstone N.D.P. SALE, Tim Crescentwood N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Broadway P.C. STEFANSON, Eric, Hon. Kirkfield Park N.D.P. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin P.C. SVEINSON, Ben La Verendrye P.C. TOEWS, Vic, Hon. Rossmere P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. VODREY, Rosemary, Hon. Fort Garry N.D.P. WOWCHUK, Rosann Swan River Vacant Portage Ia Prairie 4945 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Tuesday, June 17, 1997 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Judith Schulz -Private Citizen Gordon Buchanan -Private Citizen PRAYERS Leslie Hawkins- Manitoba Friends of the Midwives Kemlin Nembhard-Women's Health Clinic ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Cara McDonald- Private Citizen Irvin Goertzen -Private Citizen PRESENTING REPORTS BY JenniferHoward- Manitoba Action Committee on the STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES Status ofWomen Meghan Moon - Manitoba Traditional Midwives Standing Committee on Law Amendments Collective Second Report Joyce Slater -Private Citizen Marilyn Goodyear Whiteley- Manitoba Association of Mr. Gerry McAlpine (Chairperson of the Standing Registered Nurses Committee on Law Amendments): I beg to present Yutta Fricke - Private Citizen the Second Report of the Standing Committee on Law Pat Done-Private Citizen Amendments, Madam Speaker. Linda Thiessen -Private Citizen An Honourable Member: Dispense. Written Submissions: Madam Speaker: Dispense. Rosemary Friesen-Parkland Status ofWomen Dr. Ken Brown -College of Physicians and Surgeons Your Standing Committee on Law Amendments of Manitoba presents the following as its Second Report. Your committee has considered: Your committee met on Thursday, June 12, 1997, at7 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building to Bil/7-The Midwiferyand Consequential Amendments consider bills referred. Act; Loi sur les sages-femmes et modifications correlatives At that meeting, your committee elected Mr. Penner as its Chairperson and Mr. McAlpine as its Vice and has agreed to report the same without amendment. Chairperson. Mr. McAlpine: I move, seconded by the honourable Your committee heard representation on bills as member fo r La Verendrye (Mr. Sveinson), that the follows: report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to. Bill7-The Midwiferyand Consequential Amendments Act; Loi sur les sages-femmes et modifications Standing Committee on Law Amendments correlatives Third Report Jacqueline Brandt -Private Citizen Mr. Gerry McAlpine (Chairperson of the Standing Veronica Reimer- Private Citizen Committee on Law Amendments): I beg to present Esther Pallister-Private Citizen the Third Report of the Committee on Law Cynthia Cross -Private Citizen Amendments, Madam Speaker. Michelle Marchildon -Private Citizen Chandra Malegus -Private Citizen An Honourable Member: Dispense. 4946 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA June 17, 1997 Madam Speaker: Dispense. An Honourable Member: Dispense. Your Standing Committee on Law Amendments Madam Speaker: Dispense. presents the following as its Third Report. Your Standing Committee on Economic Development presents the following as its Second Report. Your committee met on Thursday, June 12, 1997 , at7 p.m. and Friday, June 13, 1997, at 10 a.m. in Room Your committee met on Friday, June 13 , 1997, at 10 255 of the Legislative Building to consider bills a.m. in Room 254 of the Legislative Assembly to referred. consider bills referred. Your committee heard representation on bills as Your committee heard representation on bills as follows: follows: - Bill 55-The Manitoba Hydro Amendment Act; Loi Bill2- The Arbitration and Consequential Amendments modifiantIa Loi sur /'Hydro-Manitoba Act; Loi sur /'arbitrage et modifications correlatives Ron McLean -InternationalBrotherhood of Electrical Gervin Greasley -Private Citizen Workers (IBEW) Local 2034 Cory Lewis - Private Citizen David Tesarski-Canadian Federation of Labour Paul Moist and Bob Maes - CUPE Manitoba and CUPE Loca/998 Bill 28-The Emergency Measures Amendment and ErnestGallant -Private Citizen Consequential Amendments Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi John McKay -Private Citizen sur /es mesures d'urgence et modifications correlatives Your committee has considered: Donald Bailey -Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties Bill 55-The Manitoba Hydro Amendment Act; Loi Edward Lipsett -Private Citizen modifiant Ia Loi sur /'Hydro-Manitoba Bill 35-The Condominium Amendment and and has agreed to report the same without amendment. Consequential Amendments Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi - sur les condominiums et modifications correlatives Mr. McAlpine: I move, seconded by the honourable Larry Beeston- Canadian Condominium Institute member for St. Norbert (Mr. Laurendeau), that the report of the committee be received. Your committee has considered: Motion agreed to. Bil/2-The Arbitration and Consequential Amendments Act; Loi sur !'arbitrage et modifications correlatives (1335) * Bil/19-The Human Rights Code Amendment Act; Loi modifiant le Code des droits de Ia personne Standing Committee on Economic Development Second Report Bi//20-TheSummary Convictions Amendment Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi sur /es poursuites sommaires Mr. Gerry McAlpine (Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Economic Development): I beg to Bill 28-The Emergency Measures Amendment and present the Second Report on the Committee of Consequential Amendments Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi Economic Development. sur les mesures d'urgence et modifications correlatives June 17, 1997 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 4947 Bill29- The Education Administration Amendment Act; Motion agreed to. Loi modifiantIa Loi sur /'administration scolaire TABLING OF REPORTS Bill 34-The City of Winnipeg Amendment and Municipal Amendment Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi sur Ia Hon. Eric Stefanson (Minister of Finance): Madam Ville de Winnipeg et Ia Loi sur les municipalites Speaker, I have two reports for the Manitoba Liquor Control Commission. The first one is for the three Bill 35-The Condominium Amendment and months, April 1 to June 30, 1996, and also for the six Consequential Amendments Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi months from April 1 to September 30, 1996. sur les condominiums et modifications correlatives Introduction of Guests Bill 40 -The Manitoba Employee Ownership Fund Corporation Amendment Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi Madam Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, I would constituant en corporation le Fonds de participation like to draw the attention of all honourable members to des travailleurs du Manitoba the public gallery where we have this afternoon , eighteen Grade5 students from ChapmanSchool under and has agreed to report the same without amendment. the direction of Mrs. Cathey Gornik. This school is located in the constituency of the honourable First Your committee also considered: Minister (Mr. Filmon). Bill 2 5-The Proceeds of Crime Registration Act; Loi Also, twenty Grade 5 students from Ryerson sur les enregistrements relatifs aux produits de Ia Elementary School under the direction of Mrs. Florence criminalite Eastwood. This school is located in the constituency of the honourable member for St. Norbert (Mr. and has agreed to report the same with the following Laurendeau). amendment: Also, nineteen Grade 6 students from the Prince MOTION: Charles school in Portage Ia Prairie under the direction of Ms. Linda Wright. THAT thedefinition "AttorneyGeneral" in section I be amended by adding "or" at the end of clause (a) and On behalf of all honourable members, I welcome you by striking out clauses (b) and (c) and substituting the this afternoon. following: * (1340) (b) in subsection 2(1) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (Canada), ORAL QUESTION PERIOD MOTION: Manitoba Telecom Services THAT the definition "proceeds of crime restraint Rate Increase order" in section I be amendedby adding "or" at the end of clause (a) and by striking out clauses (b) and (c) Mr. Gary Doer (Leader of the Opposition): When and substituting the following: the Premier was trying to justify his broken election promise to keep the publicly owned telephone system (b) section23 of the Controlled Drugs and Substances owned by Manitobans in this House last year, the Act (Canada), Premier stated that the, quote, rates could go up or the rates could go down. Mr. McAlpine: I move, seconded by the honourable member for Steinbach (Mr. Driedger), that the report of Well, are the rates ever going up, Madam Speaker, the committee be received.