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House of Commons Debates VOLUME 147 Ï NUMBER 022 Ï 2nd SESSION Ï 41st PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Friday, November 22, 2013 Speaker: The Honourable Andrew Scheer CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) 1245 HOUSE OF COMMONS Friday, November 22, 2013 The House met at 10 a.m. Our government has provided vital funding towards tackling drugs in prisons. In 2008, we committed $122 million over five years towards developing and implementing a more rigorous approach to drug interdiction in our federal prisons. This funding Prayers has gone towards an expanded detector dog program, increased security intelligence capacity in institutions and communities, and enhanced partnerships with law enforcement organizations. GOVERNMENT ORDERS Ï (1005) [English] However, we did not stop there. We knew that Canadians remained concerned about this issue and that we had to move ahead DRUG-FREE PRISONS ACT with further concrete actions. To this end, our government made Hon. Tim Uppal (for the Minister of Public Safety and three commitments to Canadians in our 2011 Conservative platform, Emergency Preparedness) moved that Bill C-12, an act to amend with a goal of creating drug-free prisons. These commitments would the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, be read the second subject all prisoners to random drug testing, give stricter penalties to time and referred to a committee. those found with contraband in prison, and deny prisoners parole if they fail a drug test. Ms. Roxanne James (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, CPC): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise in the House today to speak to Bill As I mentioned, our first commitment in our 2011 Conservative C-12, the drug-free prisons act. I would like to seek unanimous platform was to put in place measures that ensure all prisoners consent to split my time with the member for Northumberland— undergo drug testing. To reach that goal, Correctional Service of Quinte West. Canada has recently increased its monthly random urinalysis testing The Acting Speaker (Mr. Bruce Stanton): Does the hon. from 5% of the prison population to 10%. With this increase, we parliamentary secretary have the unanimous consent of the House to now have a system in place that helps ensure each inmate is tested at split her time? least once per year, thereby fulfilling our commitment to capture samples from 100% of the prison population. Some hon. members: Agreed. Ms. Roxanne James: Mr. Speaker, the bill before us today gives new tools to the Parole Board of Canada to help ensure that prisoners remain drug-free, both inside the prison and while they are on parole. We have also made changes related to our second commitment, that the Correctional Service of Canada would refer serious cases to I will speak to the details of this important common-sense bill in law enforcement for appropriate action. The Safe Streets and just a moment, but first allow me to give some background on what Communities Act, which Canadians know members opposite voted has brought us to this point. against, put in place mandatory minimum penalties for trafficking or possession of drugs in a prison or on prison property. The issue of drug use in our federal prisons is a serious concern to this government. Many Canadians may be surprised to learn that drug use is rampant in our prisons. Despite the best efforts of our front-line officers, the criminal element is still able to bring drugs into the penitentiaries. These measures move us closer to fulfilling our Conservative platform commitment to creating drug-free prisons. That brings me The scope of the problem becomes clear when we look at the back to the drug-free prisons act, which would help us meet the third actual numbers. In the fiscal year 2010-11, close to 1,500 drug commitment in our 2011 Conservative platform by giving the Parole seizures took place in federal prisons. These are worrisome numbers. Board additional legislative tools to act as the strong authority and Our prisons are less safe and secure when there are drugs involved. decision-making body that it should be. 1246 COMMONS DEBATES November 22, 2013 Government Orders Bill C-12 is straightforward. It proposes two amendments to the Testing does not solve the problem; what solves the problem is Corrections and Conditional Release Act. treatment. First of all, the drug-free prisons act would provide the Parole Board of Canada with the specific authority to cancel parole after it Does the government have any plans to address the real problem had been granted and before the prisoner leaves the penitentiary, if with something that would actually make a difference? that prisoner fails or refuses to take a drug test. This is an important change. Under this legislation, the Correctional Service of Canada Ms. Roxanne James: Mr. Speaker, the Correctional Service of would be required to provide that information to the Parole Board. Canada spends between 2% and 5% annually, approximately $150 The second proposed change under the drug-free prisons act also million per year, of its total operating budget on core correctional supports the work of the Parole Board, allowing it to require parolees programs, including those that deal with substance abuse. We are to stay off drugs. If the prisoner violates that condition, the Parole dealing with the particular question that the member had. Board of Canada can revoke parole. These proposed changes would allow our government to continue What I find most interesting, and I mentioned it in my speech, is our significant work toward ending this illicit activity. that the member from the NDP, along with his entire caucus, wants to have a needle exchange program in prisons. On this side of the While we are busy and focused on the safety of our communities House, we do not think it is a good idea to give convicted criminals, and reducing drug crime, the NDP brings forward dangerous with serious histories of violence, long, sharp, and pointy metal suggestions, like providing needles to inmates. Not only is this objects. giving hard-core drugs like heroin to prisoners—a really bad idea— it is a significant risk to the safety of our hard-working front-line Mr. Murray Rankin (Victoria, NDP): Mr. Speaker, in her reply correctional officers, not to mention the prisoners themselves. to my colleague, the parliamentary secretary indicated there was 2% to 5% spent annually on correctional programs, including those We also see shameful acts by the leader of the Liberal Party, who addressing substance abuse. To get more specific, exactly how much goes to speak at grade schools to promote the legalization of illegal money is spent every year on dealing with substance abuse substances like marijuana to our children. This is shameful. problems, which my colleague has indicated has led to 3,000 people Canadian families deserve much better. in prison waiting for treatment for substance abuse? There is no doubt that drug and alcohol abuse in our federal prisons presents a serious barrier to correcting criminal behaviour, Ms. Roxanne James: Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, it is which is why our Conservative government is fully committed to approximately $150 million per year that Correctional Service of keeping illicit drugs out of the hands of prisoners. Canada spends on core correctional programs, including the substance abuse programs. I know there is some debate in some circles over whether we can successfully rid our prisons of drugs, alcohol and other contraband. I also know that we cannot and will not back away from this I want to make it clear that it is not the only thing it does. Our challenge. We will not turn a blind eye to this problem. government has actually adopted a three-pronged approach to dealing with this issue in prisons. First with regard to increased Our government will remain focused on initiatives that will help interdiction, in 2008 the government invested $122 million over five us tackle drugs and alcohol in our prisons. We will not back down years to increase this process. Our efforts include drug detector dogs, from prioritizing the safety of our correctional officers. With the security intelligence capacity and perimeter security. In addition to changes proposed in the drug-fee prisons act, the parole board would that, the third prong is deterrence through increased offender have more specific authority to make decisions that have a accountability and penalties. That was achieved through the Safe significant impact on the safety of our communities. Streets and Communities Act, from 2012. I urge all members of the House, especially members opposite, who far too often are the champions of policies that are soft on Mr. Jasbir Sandhu (Surrey North, NDP): Mr. Speaker, the crime, to support the rapid passage of this critical piece of parliamentary secretary mentioned that in 2008, $110 million was legislation. spent on interdiction. I sat on the study of drugs in prisons. What we found was that the number of people who were testing positive for Ï (1010) drugs before the $110 million was spent and then after three years Mr. Randall Garrison (Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, NDP): Mr. was about the same. In fact, the interdiction of $110 million did not Speaker, I listened with interest to the parliamentary secretary's make any difference in the percentage of prisoners with some sort of speech, and I think it once again ignores some basic facts. The drug in their systems. Conservatives claim to be very proud about testing all prisoners for drugs, and they have found as a result of those tests that there are many people who are still using drugs in prison.