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Date : 11th November 1979 Place : London Type : Public Program Speech : English Language

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I Transcript English 02 - 12 Hindi - Marathi -

II Translation English - Hindi 13 - 26 Marathi - ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT ENGLISH TALK

Something that is born within you, that is innately built in you, which sprouts by itself, which manifests itself like you can see a seed sprouting into a tree. This is what is . Now all other , which go along with it, are part and parcel of . They cannot be separated from this to that. I think people are under misunderstanding - there are four limbs of one Yoga or something like that. Even that won't be a misunderstanding as to think that they are separated or different. When we say that we have eaten this food, it doesn't mean like a bolt it has gone inside in the body and just passed out of the body like a bolt coming out. Does it? It means it secreted some saliva in the mouth later on in the [UNCLEAR WORD]. It has passed through the trachea, the other places like you can call, what you call? - Esophagus, going down into the stomach part, and then to the intestines, and then to the larger intestines. All this movement or passage and all that is done through the other kind of movement, which is existing in the organs itself, like the stomach itself pushing it down. Coming from your brain, the sympathetic and parasympathetic coming into play and working it out. It's a big system - an organization that is working out. Now if you want to separate it, that digestive system is different, respiratory system is different and you heart system is different or some other brain system is different or nervous system is different. I mean you can't take it out like that a brain hanging on one side and your digestive system hanging on the other. It is one integrated form of organization, which is a living organization, which understands each other, which reacts to the demand. You cannot separate these systems. But as it is our brains are so disintegrated or they are good at that, disintegrating everything within us and without that we want to disintegrate the living thing, which is Yoga. Yoga is not a dead organization. It's a living process, absolutely a living process. When it is a living process, you cannot do anything about it so it is Sahaja. At the most you can little bit chipped it here and there and push it around and all that. If a tree is coming up: like in Japan they want to give it a shape then they'll cut one branch first and bend it a little more. Then cut another one and bend it this way-that way and give it a shape. But whatever is living is working out spontaneously within us, with many complicated organizations, which are living themselves and are aware of what they are doing. For example your body is much more aware of Me than your rationalities. Say you are a possessed person. You won't accept that you are possessed, you won't accept. I won't say Myself also because I don't want to get any kind of thing which is in stock there you see. I know human beings that if you tell them something like that you can be out for any sort of troubles, you see. So I don't tell you. But the body knows Me. When you come before Me the whole body shakes just like that. "Markum, is it true or not? Tell Me." Because it is a living body it knows Me, it's not a dead body. So whatever is living is so well looked after, organized and in a living way, which we do not understand. Because we deal with the dead. Supposing I have to start this instrument then I know there must be a chord, I have to put it to that mains and that it works out. And I always say, "Sahaja Yoga is like that you just take out your chord and put to the mains". I say like that but do you think it is that simple? You believe that? That you just pull out the from there and put to the mains. No, it is not. When the sprouting of the Kundalini starts, when the awakening starts, it passes through various centers. How? How will you explain a Kundalini, which is at the base end of your spinal cord rising upward? Now if I tell you that this is even more than your digestive system. That the Kundalini, which is an energy as we call it, is the one that thinks, understands and loves you and knows each and

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everything about you in this life and life before. If She is so capable and if She knows everything and She is an entity by itself and if She has to come up to your head, is it easy? It is the most difficult thing. If you have a stone lying somewhere you can pick it up and throw it wherever you like. Isn't it very simple? Even if there's a little worm it knows how to get out of the way of a big bull coming round, to save itself. And the bull if it sits anywhere, impossible to raise it. You try your level best. We have some very drastic methods for that in India. You have to burn some chilies - red chilies and put that smoke into the nose of a bull like that. Then only the bull would rise. Otherwise you try anything it won't raise. It would be sitting and settling itself nicely on the ground. So you come across such bulls also. Sometimes it happens like that. But to make this Kundalini, which thinks, understands, is individual Mother of an Individual, which has been born with you all the time, who knows all about you and who loves you the most and She's the one who's going to give you your realization, your birth - second birth. So She's your Mother. This kind of a Kundalini that exists within us must be the most difficult person to rise, has to be. That's why people say, "Kundalini raising is very difficult", is correct. So one has to find out the methods of how to make the bull rise? Because this Kundalini is absolute dharma, is absolute righteousness, absolute purity, ideal most personality that you could think of, which doesn't tolerate any nonsense, falsehood, untruth, anything like that. She's Nirmala you can call Her. She is pure. She's purity personified. She doesn't accept any nonsense, no compromise. She is within you. See how beautiful you are. She's not afraid of anyone. She cannot be enticed, enchanted or tempted by anything. And She loves. But Her love is that pure that nothing is higher for Her than Her own love. She never reconciles to anything. And She's the one who is going to give you your Self-Realization. So for human beings who know about it they have to find out methods of pleasing Her. What makes Her so unhappy? Why doesn't She want to rise? They have to find out the means and methods. And the result of that probing has brought forth other Yogas, which we call as or they call it as . What is the third one you call it? . I think Kriya and Raja is the same, about the same style it is. And Yoga and Gyana Yoga and . All these are the methods human beings want to employ to make the bull raise. And when they get frustrated; they want to hang themselves by the nearest tree. So that also is another frustrated Yoga. Then sadistic Yogas, then beating Yogas, then beating other Yogas, then it goes on like that you see, flowering into better and better things, then fanaticism. Because human beings find it difficult to sit still you see they get a challenge - 'Oh! This bull doesn't rise, all right I'll make it rise'. Moreover they haven't got the authority. Even those who are self- realized they have no knowledge because Kundalini is not made by them. Like even if I get this machinery, I don't know how to handle, how to use it, I may try but I may burn My hands instead. So such a hotchpotch of endeavor brings forth so many Yogas in this world and everybody is baffled at it that how is it there are so many Yogas whether we should do this Yoga or that Yoga or Buddha or Mahavira or Christ or this and that and what is it? Then Church Yoga and voodoos. And "What's wrong in which craft?" The other day somebody said. Nothing wrong but the bull will be settle down better. It won't rise then with voodoo. Now, so they have to try to find out what should we do now? Stand on your heads, bull won't rise, no it won't. Break your necks, it won't. So what should we do? So we should know what is a Kundalini that is within us? All these Yogas that have come up, have been depicted from the experiences of people. Because some people when they try to raise the Kundalinis, so called, say they started jumping. So they said, "Let us jump and the Kundalini will rise". Then some people started taking out their clothes maybe, some sort of a funny thing like that. They felt heated up, so people thought let us take out our clothes and we'll find God. Some people felt some sort of a grip on the stomach or some of them did see also these things happening within. So they called it a moola . They said, "The bandha has taken place". Something has gripped there.

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So the Kriya Yoga is that you take out your tongue from here. I mean you cut this thread of the tongue and you push it back here touch this tip of the tongue here. Normally they are wagging with that, it goes on. Push it back here at the Vishuddhi Center. They think Vishuddhi is here. See the problem is they think that the Vishuddhi is here. So they push back here and they think that they will achieve the raising of the Kundalini by tickling this portion. It is just the other way round we are trying, you see. The effect cannot reach the cause. You have to go to the root of the cause to come to the effect. Do you see My point? Supposing the Vishuddhi , which is here, a very subtle center behind is spoilt, then the effects are felt say here and your tongue gets affected, your eyes get affected, your nose get affected, your cheeks get affected. These sixteen you see. All these things can be affected. But by tickling your nose you do not touch your Vishuddhi chakra isn't it? Do you see My point? For example: something goes wrong at the center from where the electricity is coming here. My tickling this here you cannot cure that one there. You have to go to the roots. Or on a tree you find a fruit is getting rotten; all the fruits are getting rotten. So by treating the fruit can you treat the disease? You'll have to go to the roots. So these people when they saw all these things happening to human beings they formed different types of methods. All are wrong and all are right. Try to understand it's very simple. After realization all of them are right; before realization all of them are wrong. Before your car starts if you start turning the brake or using the wheel, you are spoiling the car. When the car has started and you know how to drive and you have become a master of driving then everything is right. Otherwise the same car, which has to drive you from My house to this ashram, will land Me up somewhere. In the same way the same thing with no realization has no meaning; after realization only you start understanding. So let us take the case of Hatha Yoga. It's based on centers no doubt, it is based on Ishwara Pranidhana, no doubt; all the ashtangas - all the eight sites of hatha Yoga. See from human point of view I am saying. For them why Hatha Yoga came into being? Is first that they should fix their attention on the Ishwra Pranidhana. Means they must fix their attention into the existence of God. Not blind faith but to understand that there is God. So that you humble down yourself. Then you should go to a realized soul - as a Guru. Guru means a realized soul, minimum. Any Dick, Tom and Harry becomes a Guru, is a nonsense absolutely. He has to be realized soul. And if he is a realized soul he'll say like that. He doesn't talk of separation. He talks of authority because he is there. He has that authority. Those who talk of separation, crying and weeping and goes and all that are blind like all others. They have no business to lead you. There's no humility about it. I mean, I mean if I have a red shawl, I should say, "I have a red shawl". What is there to feel humble about it? I mean whatever you are there's no harm in saying what you are. When you are not that, when you do not have that and you say that, it is arrogance. But when you are there you have to say. That's why Christ said, "I am the light, I am the path". I mean He was not trying to be arrogant about it. What is there to feel bad about it? So, Hatha Yoga itself is done under a person who is a realized soul. Not only realized but who knows, who has mastered the art of Shakti Path - is the raising of the Kundalini, minimum. Of course Sahaja just raise It like that. Is different, but not any other Yogis can do that. Its only you because you are authorized that you just raise the Kundalini just like this. So what these Hatha Yogis have done is that boiled it down to only physical sense. So you have to have Eashwara Pranidhana, Yama-. That too before twenty-five years of age you have to discipline yourself in a way that you should understand what is right and what is wrong. Now those who have done all the wrongs of the world before they are fifteen years of age. Now at the age of twenty-five they are trying to learn what is Yama and Niyama. How can you do it, tell Me now? Supposing you have spoiled the car completely, at the most you can ask for insurance if you have paid

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for it. But how do you expect to car to come out absolutely factory, from the factory as if it's absolutely new? A horse, which is being completely mutilated, cannot run a race isn't it? That would be maddening. So one has to understand that these Yama- and all these things are not meant for us. At least for the western people in anyway. Let us accept it. Whatever it is in experimentation or whatever it is we have committed lots of mistakes or maybe that we have been experimenting, again I'll say the same word. Whatever we've done, we've done a lot of harm to ourselves, to our body, to our mind because we had nobody to guide us, all right. We didn't want to harm ourselves but by mistake it has happened now, what to do? Is a very sad affair. People are sick. They cannot do Hatha Yoga. The atmosphere is sick. The whole place is sick. They want love, they don't want exercise. They don't want scouts. They want somebody to love them, to heel them, to cure them, to establish them. There is no word of love in Hatha Yoga these days because you pay for it. One thing you cannot pay for is your love, isn't it? How can you pay for love? And that's why this Modern Hatha Yoga is just a misnomer. But after realization you can use Hatha Yoga because you are purified, you are cleansed, you are healed, your wounds are all right. People are wounded they are so much hurt. They are extremely unhappy. You touch them and you feel it. Why talk about big things when they don't even have energy to sustain themselves? It's a strain on them. And none of them are realized souls, nor they are masters in Shakti Path. So that's why it was said that you should go to a guru who is a realized soul. Go into jungles - twenty-five years of age you should be there and practice under his guidance in complete celibacy, with the atmosphere of complete celibacy. Now come to Kriya Yoga. When we take to Kriya Yoga, you see taking out the tongue as I said, cutting out putting it back into the thing here to tickle the Vishuddhi chakra. I mean I don't know sometimes your rationalities also go off I think. By doing anything like that do you thing you can excite this Great Power within you, which is discrimination, which understands each and everything? You cannot befool Her by that. So all these tricks that we have been trying with ourselves of poking you, yourself here and poking yourself there. You are just spoiling your instrument for nothing at all. But it happens when the Kundalini rises through the Vishuddhi chakra that when the dilatation of the chakra takes place. It happens that your tongue is pulled inside. It happens that your eyes get dilated. I hope they do not put atropine to dilate their eyes to get the Kundalini awakening. So it happens like that, [khechary?] takes place. The bandhas take place. Stomach holds the Kundalini with a bandha. It closes down the when the Kundalini comes up. It closes itself down automatically so that the energy is kept upward; it should not be allowed to fall down. All these things happen within us. These bandhas happen which some supraconcious people might be seeing and they want to think that if you pull your stomach like this, put your tongue inside, these things happen as a result of Kundalini awakening. But by doing these things you do not awaken the Kundalini. Now did you follow My point? Did you? Clear now? And that's why this Kriya Yogas have started, even the jumping has started, even the nudity has started. All these things as a result of some people who are trying to raise the Kundalini. Even in the center when it rises all these things happen. But when your health is not all right, you are sick, your heart is working, laboring very hard to look after your physical being; you try to make it even weaker by taking to these strenuous things. And by using the other way round method as I told you, you also spoil your instrument. Like the electricity is, has to come in it. So the electricity must flow from there. If I start blowing from here or poking from here, with frustration also breaking this one here, electricity is not going to come only this will be finished. Do you follow My clear-cut idea? It's very clear-cut that if you try to spoil your own instrument you are not going to get the energy to rise within you. But if he was a realized soul then he

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would tell you. First of all he may raise your Kundalini, minimum awaken your Kundalini. And ask you to make way for the Kundalini to rise gradually. Human beings when they raise the Kundalini they raise it by every chakra. They bring the Kundalini say Mooladhara, of course they cannot touch. So the Kundalini will come up to say Nabhi at the most. Then how to retain it there? So they will say, "Eat less. Do not take away your attention too much. You must eat very little food so that there is not much attention on the food. Keep yourself detached." This is before twenty-five years of age. "Do not starve too much, eat at regular intervals. Don't have much attention anywhere outside so that attention is kept there and the Kundalini doesn't drop down." From the little bit an inch progress it has made in twenty-five years. They are born again and again and they move at the pace of a little ant you know? And they fix your Kundalini by nails there. And they say, "Don't lead any adharmic life." You have to lead a very virtuous life. Like a horse you see. When you have to train the horse you have to put these two blinds around. So they have to train the horse you see before it really starts running the race. But with this is important the most important is the love of the grandparents who are with them. In those days used to be, to look after the children and their love of the Guru and the training and discipline of his own self. The Gurus who take money from you what are they going to train you up in? Business management? Or dubious methods? Or cheating? Their own lives are so beautifully blend with their love and their knowledge and their whole understanding, that it has a direct effect on the character and the personality of the people. Like now in India nobody can write an epic like Rama's. We don't have any Ramas now. We won't have perhaps. Nobody writes. They write only stories. Now their poems have started coming out of India like your, who was this Lord, you had this horrible one here? Byron. Now Mr. Byron is born in India I think. He has left your country. So like that. So all the dynamism in literature is also finished because there is no ideal before them. They cannot think of a perfect personality. So the epics are different in the same way. When we go to learn these things we see our Gurus, so called, we see their lives. The impression that we have within us is also just the same. And they cannot teach anything unless and until they themselves have the light. Now this Kriya Yoga is also the same thing. It is described by great saints in India that these Jallandhar Yoga and all these, Jallandhar bandhas and all these bandhas take place means the bondage takes place in the stomach, in the heart and all these granthis are broken and all these thing are described. Yes it happens in you also when the Kundalini rises. It does happen because I am quite a Big Master. I do it everything Myself. I don't leave anything to you till you have got it. Only thing what you have to do is to be absolutely freely choosing the path of self-realization. That's the only thing you have to do to be absolutely free. In all your freedom you have to accept Sahaja Yoga and if I find that you have not chosen it by your freedom you get out of it very fast; you won't be there. Yourself will run away if not I'll see to it that you run away. So one has to understand that all these margas, all these paths, even like Bhakti. I have told you that three types of Bhaktas are the ones who are asking for kamarkis are there. So many have come to Me for say cures, so many of them. That's a good thing; that's a good chance for Me. Then they get cured then they have that love, then they are monkshoods and they can become very great Sahaja Yogis. In India there are many who have become like that. They just came for the treatment and they became great Sahaja Yogis. So they can pass through all these various stages. So one has to understand that this is the time of Maha Yoga. Where all these Antaryoga, means all these happening inside takes place automatically. I have something to do with your Kundalini, very much. And She knows Me very well too. So much so, as soon as She sees Me She's up there. So happy and the first impact is so great you feel this, got it. She rises with such a thumping joy and you get it. But again you go back to your crutches.

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Even you have lost all your troubles and everything is finished now, still you want to have your crutches because you are identified with that. So you go back to your crutches and also want to again become lame. It's just acting going on for some time. But when you act for a long period then you become lame. Because we've been playing games you see and now the game is over. So you have to accept yourself that you are great. That you have got it now within yourself, it is there. Now you are a light, you have to accept that that you are a light now. You are not the same as you were before and you are transformed into this flower. You should have faith in yourself and confidence in you. Because you have been so far identified with people like that, with bad experiences, indifferent experiences. You do not want to believe that there could be an experience of that kind; you do not want to accept it. But if you little bit understand it, go smoothly with it. You'll settle down nicely and I am here to make you the Master of it, absolutely the complete mastery over all this. When this Maha Yoga comes in you don't have to worry about anything else. All the Yogas are at your feet. You just raise your hands just like this and the Kundalini will rise. It's a fact you just try. Anybody is sick you just put your hand like this and the person is going to be all right, try yourself. This is Maha Yoga -is the culmination point of Sahaja Yoga. Once you achieve it then you don't have to do anything else, then you become that. Because only everything works for the becoming and if there's something that just gives you the whole thing, then why should you do it? All the things that have happened to you after coming to Sahaja Yoga, I am going to give you the list of those and what are they called in language. Thousands of year people had to work to get it. But you have got it just like that. It's a fact. It's difficult to accept this that you've got it just like that without doing any head or leg or any exercises isn't it? But just wait and see what you have got. Of course some people don't get it. Because there's problem, some problem is there. Doesn't matter it will work out. But those who get it should know that you've got because of something and that something you have to discover. That's what you have to find out for yourself. There is a reason why you got it like that. Like also you see. Somebody told Me that there's a Guru who gives mantras according to the age. It's all nonsense. Complete nonsense it is - with age. You see even a realized soul would not give you a . That's why it was regarded as a great thing if somebody would give you a mantra. Now every Dick, Tom and Harry like a donkey brays in your ears and you think it's a very big mantra - "I won't tell you anything what mantra I've got". They are trying to befool you. They don't know they are befooling themselves. Whatever they have done they'll have to pay very heavily. So mantras are never given just like that. You have to know various points of a person: as to what is your Kula Daivatha? - The worship of your family. What is your personal worshipping God? What is your horoscope? What are the stars you are catching? At this point giving of the mantra time is to be determined, at a particular time of the horoscope. What is the time of the horoscope that tallies with the Guru's horoscope also? That's why you must know that people used to have hardly one or two people. Even a person like Gyaneshwara gave a name to one person in his lifetime. Here these Dick, Tom and Harrys' are giving to people just like distributing I don't know what. Nothing is easily available more than these names of horrible things, which have no meaning. If I told these Indians, they will know. Mother speaks in Hindi. [Translation - These people have been given one mantra 'Ayenga' and the other is 'Thenga' by Maharshi . You know the meaning] So many misidentifications, which are hanging onto you, must be got rid of. People call it a sacrifice. I do not think it is a sacrifice. If you think something is hampering your way you'll try to take out that hurdle. In the same way if you stand out from your obstructions you will be able to understand that these obstructions are standing in your way and they are not your own. They are stopping your progress. So you should get this misidentification out of your minds completely and try to be more and more yourself and not a misidentification. This is one of the problems I think people have here. Whenever I get any complaints or anything I understand that still the level of understanding about

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Sahaja Yoga is not up to that point. It's a tremendous task and for that if you are the people who have to come up and if you are the people who have to fight it, you have to understand it in its full extent and also understand where you stand for it. How much you have to do? How much you have to improve yourself? Because you are the people who are going to take the Sahaja Yoga to that position where it has to reach. Because as far as I am concerned I have nothing to do anymore. I've done it. Now it is for you to receive. You have to imbibe into it and you have to change the whole thing, that is your job and that's why it is a serious matter. The second point I always have been saying that due to ego problem we are very much disintegrated. We are so disintegrated that the connection with the Divine is never properly established. As I've said it that this instrument if it is divided into five parts and all the five parts are fighting with each other, you cannot get anything done through this instrument though it is connected to the mains. In the same way if you still remain disintegrated you cannot get that connection. For example you see, people come down here, I've seen for Sahaja Yoga. Now they have other interests and there's other priorities, other things are there which are very important for them. All the time they are wasting their time for that and then they will say that Mother we are not progressing much in Sahaja Yoga. If you decide, as he has told you that we have to do Sahaja Yoga first and the other things are secondary, then only the Sahaja Yoga can be really established into you. We'll have some Sahaja Yogis of a very high level, I know that. And we'll have some of very mediocre level, some will be absolutely useless and some would be absolutely thrown out. We'll have all types. That also I know. Now it is for you to decide where do you come? How far you are going to? If you're going to waste your time in thinking about other Sahaja Yogis and small small things and trivial things as he has said, your disintegration is going to be increased. You are going to separated much more because all this decisions is taken through your ego - 'I don't like it', ' I don't do it', 'I don't see it'. If you could somehow or the other see your ego working then you can get rid of it. And that is the thing one has to do, not to fight the ego. I never said fight the ego. But surrendering is the only way your ego can go and that's why the progress in the West as you have seen it is much less that is in India. Take his case, I would say particular case of Venugopalan, is really remarkable because he's a man who's holding a very big position in India. Here I see even if a person who is a - say a dishwasher, he comes to Sahaja Yoga still his ego is so big even our Prime Minister won't have such a big ego as he has. I mean the way he'll talk like that 'I don't like you', 'I don't this this'. I am Myself amazed the way people you see- everybody has become the King of England or what? The way they talk you see. This is something one should tell people when they come here that don't waste Mataji's energies in arguing and this and that because everybody thinks no end of themselves here and that is the biggest hurdle that they have. When they even come first time you find it so difficult. I have to show all My appreciation of their ego, all the time just to satisfy them so that they come around. And this is how the progress becomes less. Now in his case, he is a person who has been to all kinds of horrible Gurus and his wife has been also to all kinds of horrible Gurus. Because of another extreme in India we have that we must respect all the saints. But these days the saints are fake saints. Not only fake saints but they, some of them, are devils. So they are not going to say, "We are devils". When they do not say they are devils or whatever it is they do not come in their proper form. These simple innocent people who are seeking God just go to them, give their heart, do everything and then they find they are devils. Once they discover they are devils then they are surprised. Then they come back from there. They go to another guru, they go to another guru, but the harm is done. But they get rid of their harm because they recognize that harm has been done and they know what is the truth is, what is to expect. I would say it is the blessing of that country that people know what to expect. You see like people would not like to go; those who are really of a very good quality people, will not go to a man who shows some sort of a sensationalization, or some sort of a what you call chamatkaris - a miracle. They would not go. But they'll go to other subtler people who are very

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cunning and they put up another kind of a show and just say that no no this is the way you can achieve the highest. And that's how most of the Sahaja Yogis in India also have been, except for the village people and the district people, most of the city people have been to some guru or some. But despite all that they've left everything. I've told them, "You have to beat them with shoes", they'll do, everything morning till, everyday he does his sadhana for one hour, though he is a very busy man. Here even to get up in the morning people grudge. I mean what can you do with such slow moving people? You see it's absolutely very difficult. And this is what I feel that we must understand that we have a very great responsibility, very great responsibility in the West. Because this has to happen in London, it has to happen in England to begin with and that's why you bear a very big responsibility. You have to evaluate yourself and you have to evaluate Sahaja Yoga again and again and again and know that what makes you slow is your ego. Or even superego is there no doubt but ego is the main problem. I must tell you ego is the main problem. But I dare not say to anyone, "This is your ego", because that will just jump onto My head. But try to see your ego how it is deviating because it is your own joy you are seeking. It is your own property you are seeking. It is your own that is hidden from you for which you have been seeking for ages now that is what I have to expose for. What is there to argue with a person who's trying to give you the highest? It's just a waste of energy; do not waste your energy onto these things, on to frivolous things about finding faults. Now he has been organizing our Delhi camp. He is the one who has organized our printing of the book and now smooth absolutely. I've not known, I've not known any problems. You just tell them that this has to happen all right. I do not know how it works out. You have stayed in Delhi; you've seen how many people were there. Never a problem. Did you hear anybody complaining? Or anybody quarrelling or fighting among themselves? Nothing of the kind. You see this is not the sign of intelligence either - of all the time trying to find faults with each other or trying to blame yourself. Both things are wrong. Best thing is to grow in wisdom. We must grow in wisdom. We'll ourselves see that we are becoming wiser and wiser. Some of you are really very grown up and some of you still go up and down and some of you still very low. So all of us have to get up and all of us have to go together. If somebody has also achieved something it is of no use to Sahaja Yoga as I've told you, it's a collective thing that is going to work out. All of you have to work it out and it is so sweet that you have real brothers and sisters all over the world today. When you'll go there with a full heart they are going to receive as you have received him with full heart. But we all must come up. Come up to a point where we can face each other with full love, with openness without any worry about anything, without any fear of anyone but just they are your brothers and you are their brothers and that you have to love them. That's only possible when we'll get out of our fears here. Because there is also another side to it that ego always have a fear because it aggresses others, it is afraid also. Because it knows others can aggress. So this is the point we have got to think about but that never means that you in anyway despise yourself, never. You are saints, you must know that. You are realized souls. How many there are realized souls in this world? How many there are who can raise the Kundalini? How many there are who understand what is vibration is? I am going to tell you on Guru Puja what things you have achieved and how many things you have got within you built in now which are working. And how your chakras are awakened through Sahaja Yoga. As he says yes it has happened. But what are we doing about it? Is the greatest of the greatest that can happen to anyone that you know. Also you know this is the greatest happening, which was prophesized long time back as the last judgment. You know that this is the way you are going to be judged. So we have to work very hard. We have to work. It is effortlessly given to you all right. But to maintain it, to keep it up, to go higher you have to religiously work it out with a very humble attitude. Receiving more and more and more, imbibing it into your being. Let it trickle into your being completely covering it. Let that joy that eternal bliss come into you. I am so anxious for that.

9 Do not make yourself a small person. Have a bigger vision, have a bigger ideas because now you belong to the bigger thing. The biggest of all. The Primordial. The highest - to the Virata. If you realize your importance then you'll work it out. See if you see an Indian Sahaja Yogi, you'll be amazed. He'll sleep for only 2-3 hours or 4 hours. But he'll not give up his sadhana. If he can get a full sleep he's all right. First thing you see one hour for sadhana in the morning I have to get it out somehow. But sleep, we have been sleeping all our lives. We have to correct ourselves. We have to rise. We have to go ahead to achieve your own. That's the main point is. See your own selfishness I am telling. To know your self is the greatest selfishness. If you do not know yourself all the selfishness is useless. As you call it Swartha, in Sanskrit it is said 'Swartha'. Swartha means selfishness. Swartha if you break it: swa - artha. If you know the meaning of your 'swa' means yourself. Then it is the greatest selfishness. So this is what it is and we are very happy that he's here. We'll be going to India also, next year, we are planning to come to India and you are going meet, lots of them may come to Delhi and Bombay. They're all waiting for you. They're all planning how to receive you. They're so happy that so many of Sahaja Yogis from London and all over will be coming and you know how they'll look after you and how they're happy and how they're joyous. And certain things definitely have gone wrong with us, we know that we should understand them because these are the troubles of our over thinking and over reading and over domination. But we can get rid of it. Very easily it is just to detach yourself and see for yourself, addressing yourself. "Now Mr. how are you?" If you say like that immediately your attention will go through yourself, you'll see your outer being. That is very important. The more you see yourself clearly the better it is. You have to face yourself and you do not want to face. You are afraid of facing yourself because you have been aggressing others and you are afraid to aggress in a way that is towards yourself. But there won't be any aggression because that's the perfect state where you see yourself. Neither you aggress anyone nor you are aggressed by anyone. You just see yourself clearly. And that is what you have to see. Gradually you start seeing your chakras, seeing your problems, your thing. You know that how gradually it develops. But everybody wants a quick results. It's all right if you want quick results all right. Are you like that? If you are like that you'll get a quick results. If you are not, then be patient with yourself. Not with Me but with yourself I am saying. You have to be patient because there's a problem with you. So, you have to be patient with yourself and not with anybody else. That's the main point. If you are patient with yourself this is a long promised thing, which you are going to get. But you must learn to be patient with yourself and not to be angry with yourself, not to debase yourself or not to aggress yourself onto others. It's a very simple thing. Is the simplest thing to do. But because of our complex lives and our complicated thinking we have become quite twined up into things. It can easily be get out, you can just slip out of it, without any difficulty. I know that you can do it. So forget about all these things like - my father, my sister, my brother. All these problems will be burnt in no time as soon as your light runs straight. Everything will burn away. Nothing will be left but your light and others who will come to you for enlightenment. I know that you are going to have a big day for a Guru Puja. Before that I would request you to prepare yourself. I may do something great. But I must have a proper recipient so that you must prepare yourself. Think about it. Are you loving others? Are you in love? Are you in love with everyone? Just to think that you love everyone is so great. I mean you ask Me, everybody says, "Mother You look so young. How do You look?" Because I always think of how much I have to love you see so much love I have to give to others. Just think how great it is to love others. You know how people treat Me sometimes, doesn't matter, I still love. I enjoy playing with it. In the same way you should love and love is the thing that is going to unfold beautifully like a lotus you see. Opens out its

10 petals and the beautiful fragrance starts flowing. In same way your heart will open out and the fragrance of love will spread throughout the world it will ring into people. I know it can happen. The sooner the better and the choice is your own, which you have to make a choice. So I am very happy because such a beautiful song to hear. And just before Christmas, which is a very big thing for Me. You know that and in the same way we are having another Christmas now, Christmas to celebrate a new Christ born within us. Let us prepare for His coming. And how you prepare is not by running away from yourself nor by getting into frivolous things. But by working it out beautifully, cleansing. Cleansing has to be done if the self has to be established in the temple of this being. May God bless you all. Now who are the new people who have come today? Today My speech you have recorded, so you make a copy we'll give it to Venugopalan and his speech also. All right will be good idea. I have got a complete book so big as that of a person who has written poems on Me, which is in Marathi and Hindi. But we can translate them if you want to. They're very beautiful. And we can create poetry out of that. Is there anybody who creates poetry? Sahaja : "Sudha" Mother: Sudha does, but in English you see this is already we have got in Hindi and Marathi. So it has to be converted into English all right. Somebody who's an English. Don is I think. Don is becoming quite poetic when he writes. All right. And also Hester has, I mean I see in that, Markus has, I mean everybody in their letters I find that's working. Christine has, you have even Felicity has started becoming very sweet now and its all working out very well. So every one of you should try to sort of transform it in such a manner that it turns into a beautiful thing. Now one thing is there that we have to have music because music is so wonderful. It really you've seen that when she was singing that in music see the whole vibrations started you see easing My chakras. You have to really please these Deities you know. What to do? Otherwise They do not start. You know They are very, very meticulous people and They know how far to go with you. Once it is said with the heart and when the tongues, then you see immediately I start pulsating. I mean I am in Their hands. What to do? I have to tell Them, "Now that please now start Your work". They say, "No, let them sing and then We'll do it". Mother speaks aside: Very good, I was very happy but this is such a nice carol, very beautiful. Let us meditate for a while. Now first before meditating in your heart, or you should see in your heart and there try to put your Guru in the core of it. After establishing in the heart you must bow to that with full devotion and dedication. Now whatever you do with your mind after realization is not imagination because now your mind, your imagination is itself enlightened. So project yourself in such a way that you humble down at the feet of your Guru and now ask for the necessary temperament needed for meditation or atmosphere needed for meditation. Meditation is when you are one with the Divine. Now if there are thoughts coming in first you have to say the first mantra of course and then watch inside. Also you must say mantra of Ganesha, will help some people. And then you should watch inside and see for yourself, which is the biggest hurdle. First the thought, now for the thought you have to say the mantra of Nirvichara that "Twameva sakshat Nirvichara sakshat Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi namo namaha". You should say thrice. Sahaja Yogis: "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Nirvichara sakshat Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" - (3 times) Now we come to the hurdle of your ego because see your thought has stopped now no doubt but there's still a pressure on the head. So if it is ego you have to say, "Twameva sakshat Mahat Ahankara", Mahat means the great, Ahankara means the ego. "Sakshat Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi namo namaha". Say it thrice.

11 Sahaja Yogis: "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Mahat Ahankara sakshat Shri Adi Shakti sakshat Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Mahat Ahankara sakshat Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" Mother: again Sahaja Yogis: "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Mahat Ahankara sakshat Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" Now even now if you find that ego is still there then you have to raise your left side to push it back to the right hand side with your hand, one hand towards the photograph. Push the left side higher and right side lower so the ego and superego get the balance. Do it seven times. Try to feel how you are feeling inside you see. Now you raise your Kundalini up on the head and tie it up. Again raise your Kundalini up on the head and tie it up. Again raise your Kundalini and tie it up. Now at the Sahastrara you should say the mantra of Sahastrara thrice. Sahaja Yogis: "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Kalki sakshat Shri Sahastrara Swamini moksha pradayini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Kalki sakshat Shri Sahastrara Swamini moksha pradayini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" "Om Twameva sakshat Shri Kalki sakshat Shri Sahastrara Swamini moksha pradayini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi namo namaha" Now it's opened out, you see. Now, you can open again your Sahastrara like this. Just take it down again and see that you are stationed there. Once this has been done then you go into meditation. This is like cleansing, you see, called as gnyasa. Now if you find any other obstruction you can also say like if you have got say Mahakali's problem, you can say that mantra, clear it and then you sit down for meditation. Any individual you can take it out, like if you have the ego problem, if you think then you should start with Mahat Ahankara. It is what you have to find out. What is your problem? Where is the Kundalini stopping? You can feel it within yourself. Some of you may not feel. If you do not feel it feel it on your fingers. If you are not feeling within yourself then feel it on your fingers, you can feel it. Reduce your breathing, will be better. Reduce your breathing as if stopping it.

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