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Nunavut Planning Commission Nunavut Planning Commission Public Hearing Regarding Proposed Amendment to the North Baffin Regional Land Use Plan by Baffinland Iron Mines Corporation December 4 & 5, 2017 Community Hall Pond Inlet, Nunavut 2 Public Hearing Transcript: NBRLUP Proposed Amendment by BIMC – December 2017 Participants Pond Inlet Hamlet, HTO & Public Representatives Joshua Katsak Mayor Moses Konark Deputy Mayor Pond Inlet Enookie Inuarak Hamlet Paniloo Sangoya Elder’s Group representative Frank Tester Hamlet & Pond Inlet Mary River Phase 2 Review Committee Jaykolasie Killiktee HTO Jayko Alooloo Sam Omik Hamlet Fiona Atagootak Women’s Group Representative Kaujak Komangape Women’s Group Representative Dorothy Qamana Lee Inuarak Youth Representative Dylan Mahlick Youth Representative Simon Merkosak Jobie Atagootak Mathias K HTO Elijah P HTO Joshua Katsak Hamlet Joe Krimmerdjuar Leslie Qammanq Billy Ray Ham Kudloo Josie Piteolak Ruth Sangaya Rhoda Arnakallak Abraham Kublu Alboloo Atagootak Norman Simonie Tannika Peterloosie Niko Inuarak Samson Erkloo Joannes Innualuk Catherine Inuarak Jonah Koonabic Rosie Katsak Joshua Arreak Paul I. Boazie Botoona Hamlet Meeka A. Victor K. Ruth C. Public Hearing Transcript: NBRLUP Proposed Amendment by BIMC – December 2017 3 Participants NPC: Nunavut Planning Commission Andrew Nakashuk Chairperson Percy Kabloona Vice Chairperson Ovide Alakanauruk Commissioner Peter Alareak Commissioner Brian Aglukark Director, Policy & Planning Jonathan Savoy Manager of Implementation Goump Djalogue Senior Planner John Maerzluft Manager of IT/Sound Ryan Mason Office Administrator – Executive Assistant Tommy Owlijoot Interpreter Annie Ollie Interpreter Alan Blair Legal Counsel Baffinland Iron Mines Corporation Brian Penney President & CEO Todd Burlingame Vice President Sustainable Development Mary Hatherly Director, Inuit, Government, and Stakeholder Relations Joe Tigullaraq Senior Manager, Northern Affairs Megan Lord-Hoyle Sustainability Manager Andrew Moore Inuit, Government, and Stakeholder Relations Joshua Arreak IIBA Coordination Manager Christine Kowbel Legal Counsel I Qikiqtani Inuit Association & Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated Levi Barnabas QIA Member at Large David Curley QIA Community Director, Pond Inlet David Qamaniq QIA Community Director, Pond Inlet Nadine Chislett QIA Community Data Specialist Tiivi Qiatsuk QIA Community Consultation Coordinator Sylvie Molgat QIA Legal Counsel Bruce McRae QIA Legal Counsel Miguel Chenier NTI Sr Advisor Lands Administration Planning & Management 4 Public Hearing Transcript: NBRLUP Proposed Amendment by BIMC – December 2017 Participants GN: Government of Nunavut Steven Pinksen Assistant Deputy Minister, Environment Amy Robinson Project Manager, Land Use and Environmental Assessment Erika Zell Avatiliriniq Coordinator, Economic Dev & Transportation Krista Johnson Environmental Assessment Coordinator Brad Pirie Project Manager Research & Monitoring Emily Stockley Legal Counsel, Department of Justice Government of Canada Lihua Huang INAC Land Use Planning Coordinator, Iqaluit Kim Pawley INAC Manager Env. Assessment, Land Use Planning & Conservation Anita Gudmundson Transport Canada, Regional Manager Environmental Services Bruce Kavanagh Transport Canada, Manager Rail Safety Engineering Alana Swain Transport Canada, Senior Marine Inspector Simon Gruda Legal Counsel, Justice Canada Public Hearing Transcript: NBRLUP Proposed Amendment by BIMC – December 2017 5 Table of Contents Day 1 – December 4, 2017 Page Opening Remarks 6 Context for Public Hearing and NPC Executive Director Summary 8 Summary of Issues Being Considered 13 Introduction of Participants and Their Statements of Interest 14 Proponent Overview of Proposed Amendment to the NBRLUP 18 Questions for Proponent 22 Summary of Views Regarding Proposed Amendment 40 Qikiqtani Inuit Association 41 Government of Nunavut 45 Government of Canada 47 Pond Inlet Hamlet, HTO & Public 51 Introduction to the Public Forum 55 Public Forum 58 Day 2 – December 5, 2017 Page Continuation from Day 1 of Pond Inlet Hamlet, HTO & Public Summary of Views 69 Comments & Questions from Participants Regarding Terrestrial Component Of the Amendment (Railway) 86 Discussion of Proposed Revisions to the Wording of the Amendment 91 Closing Remarks from the Parties 94 6 Public Hearing Transcript: NBRLUP Proposed Amendment by BIMC – December 2017 DAY 1: DECEMBER 4, 2017 Opening Remarks Moses: (Translated): The Mayor is not in the community, so I am representing on his behalf. He had a previous engagement for this hearing. He was not able to attend. Thank you on behalf of the hamlet of this community to the Nunavut Planning Commission for the hearing that is supposed to proceed. Welcome to the community. If it is your first time, welcome. Welcome to our community from the councillors and the Hamlet of Pond Inlet. Thank you. NPC Chair: Ublaakut. (Translated): Good morning. I’m Andrew Nakashuk. I’m from Pangnirtung. I am with the Nunavut Planning Commission and the Chair of that Commission. I would like to thank the community for welcoming us. Thank you, Deputy Mayor for your welcoming remarks. It is always nice to be welcomed, myself and the Commissioners. We are here for a certain purpose. Baffinland Mining Corporation is requesting to make an amendment to the Plan. This is the purpose of this hearing. So we are here to hear opinions so that Commissioners can make decisions later on. The Baffinland amendment should be at the front table if you don’t know what they are requesting. It is documented, and perhaps short notice. The Commissioners and staff: To my right is Percy Kabloona, a Commissioner and Vice Chair. Peter Alareak and Ovide Alakanaruk are Commissioners. The staff we have here: Brian is Director of Policy. Jonathan Savoy and Goump Djalouge, and our lawyer is Alan Blair. Our interpreter is Annie Ollie who is down at the front table. Another interpreter is Tommy Owlijoot. The technician we have for the next two days is John Ehaloak. Another person from NPC is Ryan Mason. (In English): My presentation today will cover one role of the Nunavut Planning Commission and a brief overview of how we got to this point. Brian will be presenting to you the Executive Director’s Report, and Jonathan will provide an overview of the issue being considered. (Translated): Before we proceed, Baffinland, I think an introduction is in order starting with Todd. Could you introduce please? Todd: Good morning. Thank you very much for welcoming us once again to the community. I am here today with representatives from Baffinland, including our Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Brian Penny, Megan, Mary, and Joe will all be here to answer questions throughout the proceedings. We also have staff members Joe, Joshua, Andrew, and our external legal counsel, Christine, so thank you very much for having us. Public Hearing Transcript: NBRLUP Proposed Amendment by BIMC – December 2017 7 NPC Chair: Qujannamiik, Todd. (Translated): For all of you attending, welcome. Just housekeeping items: We have exits all around the building. The restrooms are to my left. There are snacks provided. They will be brought over around 10:00 for munching. We will start the morning, including tomorrow, at 9:00 a.m. We will be taking breaks at 10:15 and 3:00 in the afternoon. At lunch, it will be from 12:15 and coming back at 1:15 in the afternoon. We will stop for supper at 5:00. At 6:30, we will come back and go on until 9:00 in the evening. It will be the same procedure tomorrow starting at 9:00 a.m. Jonathan, do you want to go ahead? Jonathan: Thank you very much. My name is Jonathan Savoy with the Nunavut Planning Commission. I’m just going to take a brief moment and overview the agenda that’s before us today. So from this morning, there is the welcoming that has already taken place. There will be some brief opening remarks from the Chairperson, Item #2 on the agenda. Item #3 will be a brief overview of an Executive Director’s Report from August that, in part, led to this hearing, Item #4 will be a brief summary of the issues that are being considered, a copy of which is available at the table. We’ll have a break. Item #5 will be an introduction of the participants, where everyone can introduce themselves – their name, organization, and a brief statement of interest. We’ll follow that with the proponent overview of the proposed amendment. Baffinland will take us through their proposal and respond to some preliminary questions on that proposal at that time, and we’ll break for lunch. Coming back, we will go through all the participants here today and provide a summary of the views regarding the proposed amendment. Those are somewhat time limited, but we do have a good amount of time here, so we won’t be too strict with that. Then moving on to #8 later this afternoon, we’re going to get into specific comments from everyone regarding the proposed amendment now as it relates to the railway, including questions from any participant to the proponent or any other participant. So this is meant to be more of a discussion that will be moderated by the Chairperson. At that point, it can get into proposed wording for the actual amendment if anyone has specific suggestions, but I’ll note there is a further section later on in the agenda to deal with that issue specifically. We’ll break for dinner, and then in the evening from 6:30 to 9:00 tonight, there will be a public forum. That will provide an opportunity for those who are not able to join us during the day today to come and provide their views on the proposed amendment. Then tomorrow morning at 9:00, we will continue the discussion on the proposed amendment, again a roundtable-style discussion. Then tomorrow morning, still Item 10, we’ve allotted some specific time to deal with proposed revisions to the wording of the amendment, should anyone choose to bring those forward. Then after lunch, we have scheduled to close between 1:45 and 3:15. Again, we have lots of time. If additional time is needed, I expect we can go longer.
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