OFFICIAL RECORD of PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 20 May 2020 the Council Met at Eleven O'clock
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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 6775 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 20 May 2020 The Council met at Eleven o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S., J.P. 6776 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK WING-HANG THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 6777 THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, S.B.S., J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN THE HONOURABLE ALVIN YEUNG THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WAN SIU-KIN THE HONOURABLE CHU HOI-DICK THE HONOURABLE JIMMY NG WING-KA, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE JUNIUS HO KWAN-YIU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HO KAI-MING THE HONOURABLE LAM CHEUK-TING THE HONOURABLE HOLDEN CHOW HO-DING THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-FAI, J.P. THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-CHUN THE HONOURABLE WILSON OR CHONG-SHING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YUNG HOI-YAN, J.P. 6778 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 DR THE HONOURABLE PIERRE CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHUN-YING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-KWAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HUI CHI-FUNG THE HONOURABLE LUK CHUNG-HUNG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU KWOK-FAN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LAU IP-KEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHENG CHUNG-TAI THE HONOURABLE KWONG CHUN-YU THE HONOURABLE JEREMY TAM MAN-HO THE HONOURABLE VINCENT CHENG WING-SHUN, M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HOI-YAN MEMBERS ABSENT: THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 6779 PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE WONG KAM-SING, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THE HONOURABLE JOHN LEE KA-CHIU, S.B.S., P.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY PROF THE HONOURABLE SOPHIA CHAN SIU-CHEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER HUI CHING-YU, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY DR RAYMOND SO WAI-MAN, B.B.S., J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR KENNETH CHEN WEI-ON, S.B.S., SECRETARY GENERAL MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MR MATTHEW LOO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 6780 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Will the Clerk please ring the bell to summon Members to the Chamber. (After the summoning bell had been rung, a number of Members entered the Chamber) LAYING OF PAPERS ON THE TABLE OF THE COUNCIL The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure: Subsidiary Legislation Legal Notice No. Merchant Shipping (Local Vessels) (Certification and Licensing) (Amendment) Regulation 2020 ....... 68 of 2020 Merchant Shipping (Local Vessels) (General) (Amendment) Regulation 2020.......................... 69 of 2020 Merchant Shipping (Local Vessels) (Safety and Survey) (Amendment) Regulation 2020.......................... 70 of 2020 Merchant Shipping (Local Vessels) (Fees) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulation 2020 ............. 71 of 2020 Merchant Shipping (Prevention of Oil Pollution) (Amendment) Regulation 2020.......................... 72 of 2020 Merchant Shipping (Prevention of Air Pollution) (Amendment) Regulation 2020.......................... 73 of 2020 Stamp Duty Ordinance (Amendment of Schedule 8) Regulation 2020 ................................................. 74 of 2020 Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Public Pleasure Grounds) (Amendment of Fourth Schedule) (No. 2) Order 2020 ................ 75 of 2020 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 6781 Road Traffic (Breath Analysing Instruments, Screening Devices and Pre-screening Devices) (Amendment) Notice 2020 ................................. 76 of 2020 Road Traffic (Rapid Oral Fluid Test Instruments) Notice .................................................................. 77 of 2020 Road Traffic (Amendment) Ordinance 2011 (Commencement) Notice 2020 ........................... 78 of 2020 Prevention and Control of Disease (Prohibition on Group Gathering) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulation 2020 .................................................. 82 of 2020 Other Papers Securities and Futures Commission Approved budget of income and expenditure for the financial year 2020/2021 Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation Annual Report 2019 (including Financial Statements and Independent Auditor's Report) Report of the Bills Committee on Professional Accountants (Amendment) Bill 2018 ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Questions. First question. Mr Paul TSE. (Mr James TO indicated his wish to raise a point) PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Mr James TO, what is your point? 6782 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 MR JAMES TO (in Cantonese): I suggest that we observe a one minute's silence to mourn the death of the late Mr Allen LEE, a former Legislative Council Member. PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Mr James TO proposed to observe a one minute's silence in memory of the late Mr Allen LEE, a former Legislative Council Member. Just like all fellow Members, I learn with deep regret of the death of Mr Allen LEE, and on behalf of this Council, I would like to extend our profound condolences to his family. However, according to the usual practice of this Council, as far as Legislative Council Members are concerned, we will only allow the observance of silence to mourn the death of a serving Member. Therefore, will Members please express their condolences for Mr Allen LEE on other occasions or by other means. PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Mr Paul TSE, please raise your question. Relief measures of the Government 1. MR PAUL TSE (in Cantonese): President, while I understand that this is the usual practice of this Council, I would like to express my deep condolences here. President, the social incidents, which have persisted for more than half a year, have dealt a heavy blow to Hong Kong's economy. Then, the Coronavirus Disease 2019 epidemic (formerly referred to as "novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia") has been sweeping across the globe, plummeting the global economy and stock markets. Some members of the accounting sector have predicted that if the Government does not implement additional relief measures, the economy of Hong Kong may fall further, with bankruptcy and winding up cases reaching a peak in August this year and registering a huge year-on-year increase of 20% to 30%. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council: LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 20 May 2020 6783 (1) whether it will raise the amount of the cash handout to each adult Hong Kong Permanent Resident to $20,000, and collaborate with the banking sector so that banks may, upon receiving signed authorizations from individual clients and having verified the latter's eligibility for receiving the sum, disburse the sum in advance, so as to address the urgent needs of members of the public; if so, of the details; if not, the reasons for that; (2) as members of the public filing bankruptcy petitions are currently required to deposit with the Official Receiver a sum of $8,000 and pay a court fee of $1,045, whether the Government will, in view of the expected emergence of a surge of bankruptcy, offer concessions on the relevant fees or make such payments on behalf of the persons concerned, so as to prevent an increasing number of members of the public from suffering the hardship of "failing even to afford the payments for bankruptcy applications"; and (3) in view of the suggestion made by some senior scholars well versed in real estate and economics that the titles (with resale restrictions) of the public housing units held by the Housing Authority, the total estimated value of which amounts to $100 billion, be transferred for free to those sitting tenants who have resided in the units for 10 or more years, so that the management and maintenance expenses, which are close to $20 billion a year, can thus be saved and reallocated to meeting expenses on public housing development and provision of support for the sandwich and middle class (e.g. providing tax concessions, rent subsidies or home purchase support), whether the Government will consider this suggestion; if so, of the details; if not, the reasons for that? SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY (in Cantonese): President, we understand fully that the social events last year and the COVID-19 pandemic have brought immense impact to various industries and sectors.