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Questions Without Notice Privatisation Of QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE Tuesday, 5 May 1992 ASSEMBLY 1139 Tuesday, 5 May 1992 to listen, that the opposition is on about privatisation and corporatisation as a means to privatisation. Over the next few months I shall be pleased to have the debate on what we believe should happen about The SPEAKER (Hon. Ken Coghill) took the chair at the reform of our public sector agencies. Quite 2.5 p.m. and read the prayer. clearly the view of the opposition is that corporatisation is a lock step to privatisation, and in fact it wants privatisation only to meet those ends. I QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE have read the document carefully, and the opposition sees corporatisation as a lock step to privatisation and considers that it is not worth PRIVATISATION OF GOVERNMENT having unless it is a lock step to privatisation. UTILITIES Mr Kennett interjected. Mr KENNElT (Leader of the Opposition) - I Ms KIRNER - I know the honourable member ask the Premier: is it not a fact that you and the government today scrapped -- for Brighton had to go to the London School of Economics to actually get this privatisation document written, and I know you are upset that at The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable thelast-- member should address the Chair and not address the Premier directly. Mr Kennett interjected. Mr KENNElT - Is it not a fact that the Premier Ms KIRNER - I wonder who is getting upset and the government have today scrapped now! corporatisation and privatisation plans as a result of threats made by the Victorian trade union Honourable members interjecting. movement; and is it, therefore, not a fact -- Honourable members interjecting. The SPEAKER - Order! All honourable members have a right to hear the Premier's reply; at present that is difficult because of the level of Mr KENNEIT - It gets under their skin a bit, in~erjection. If the honourable member for Brighton doesn't it! And is it not a fact -- wlshes to ask a further question on the matter, he Honourable members interjecting. should await his opportunity. Ms KIRNER - I can understand that there are The SPEAKER - Order! Will the honourable many differences between the honourable member member pause. It is impossible for many honourable members to hear the question because of the level of for Brighton and the Leader of the Opposition, and interjection. I ask the honourable member for really the honourable member for Brighton would Derrimut, in particular, to remain silent. like to both ask the question and give the answer. Mr KENNElT - Is it not a fact that the Let me make it clear: the government rejects the government is no longer the agent of the people who privatisation of Victoria's core assets, as does the public of Victoria. We will not flog off those assets; elected it but is the agent of the unelected trade and we look forward to the debate on the issue. union leadership? As has been said by the other side, it is a matter of Ms KIRNER (Premier) - The only party with a the public of Victoria deciding what is meant by commitment to privatisation and the flogging off of corporatisation, which is the word used across the our public assets is the opposition. nation at present to describe business efficiency Honourable members interjecting. reform. So far as the government is concerned it means business enterprise efficiency and improved community services. That is the essential part of our Ms KIRNER - And nothing has changed! Here decision, which is -- we have the erudite paper from the honourable member for Brighton that tells the world, if it wants QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE 1140 ASSEMBLY Tuesday, 5 May 1992 Mr McNamara intezjected. Mr KENNAN (Minister for Major Projects) - The full details of the expenditure of moneys by both the The SPEAKER - Order! If the Leader of the public and private sectors have been provided in National Party wishes to ask a question, he will have answers to questions on notice. The Leader of the his opportunity. National Party will be aware that those answers contain a breakdown of the details. As has been Ms KIRNER - Our decision, which was publicly stated on numerous occasions, the net cost taken-- of the project to the government is estimated to be somewhere in excess of $50 million. Members of the Mr Seitz interjected. opposition and the community will be aware that the Bayside project occupies a prime site of The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable somewhere between 35 and 45 hectares. member for Keilor is out of order, as he is well aware. I ask him to remain silent. Mr MeNamara interjected. Ms KIRNER - The decision taken by the Mr KENNAN - Let me say that public Cabinet, which was endorsed today by the caucus, housing-- will put in place a set of principles that clearly spells out what is needed for public sector reform. Those Mr MeNamara interjected. principles go to the heart of the things that the people of Victoria want - business enterprise Mr KENNAN - It is interesting, Mr Speaker, efficiency and better services - as well as to the that the opposition condemns the building of public rejection of the model put forward by the housing down there. The government has opposition, which sees corporatisation as a lock step consolidated the site through a long and difficult to privatisation. That means -- process. The Bayside project offers a once-in-a-century opportunity to consolidate a Mr Kennett interjected. prime waterfront site. Based on an overall development plan, and after a difficult clean-up Ms KIRNER - You will have a chance to face up process, public housing is now being built on the to this. You will have the chance in May to say site, the first part of which is soon to be occupied. It whether you believe -- is very clear from the opposition's questions and intezjections that, had it been in office, it would have An honourable member interjected. left the site as it was. It would have remained a disused industrial site. Ms KIRNER - The opposition will have the chance to decide whether it supports our principles, Honourable members interjecting. which will be supported by the Victorian community. The basic principles are that those core Mr J. F. McGRATH (Warrnambool) -On a point assets should remain in public ownership and that of order involving relevance, Mr Speaker, the they should be managed in a way that increases Deputy Premier was asked -- business efficiency and reduces the level of State debt. The development of business plans will also Honourable members interjecting. ensure the establishment of a framework for keeping price increases below increases in the consumer The SPEAKER - Order! There is far too much price index and delivering better services. audible conversation. I ask the Minister for Food and Agriculture to remain silent so that the Chair can BAYSIDE PROJECf hear the point of order. I Similarly ask the honourable member for Niddrie to remain silent. Mr McNAMARA (Leader of the National Party) - Will the Minister for Major Projects inform Mr J. F. MeGRATH -On the point of order the House how much money has been spent by concerning relevance, Mr Speaker, the question private companies on the Bayside project, and will asked of the Deputy Premier was specific: he was he also advise the House how much of the public's asked how much money is being expended on this money has been spent by the government? major project by the private and public sectors. The Deputy Premier has not attempted to answer the question directly, which clearly shows that he QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE Tuesday, 5 May 1992 ASSEMBLY 1141 cannot handle a question without notice in the way worked-out food processing strategy that will he handles a dorothy dixer. involve both the industry and the unions working with the government. The stewardship group The SPEAKER - Order! There is no point of established by the Minister for Food and Agriculture order. is working on that issue. Mr KENNAN (Minister for Major Projects) - It is Honourable members interjecting. very important to make this point: the opposition knocks the Bayside, Southbank, Great Southern Ms KIRNER - Yes, it is important to steward Stand and National Tennis Centre projects, but the these industries so that they feel they have a future. government has taken on those long-tenn projects. The government is liaising closely with the people Those projects have always been the subject of working at the Baimsdale plant and the local knocking by the opposition. They cannot be built development industry, and it is our view that there without Significant expenditure to provide the is a great opportunity for the development of new necessary infrastructure. products and export opportunities so that the plant can restart - not necessarily in the same areas, but The Bayside project is a $600 million to $700 million in other export areas. project, but to acquire the site - a site remaining in public ownership - clean it up and get the project The view of the group working with the Minister for started it has been necessary for significant public Food and Agriculture is that 10 major expenditure to take place so that the private sector export-oriented plants will come on stream in can get on with the development, which it will do Victoria within 18 months. The difference between over a period. the government and the opposition is that we have the analYSiS, we have the action plans, and we have The government understands, as I announced before the projects going. Christmas, that the project is a staged project with public housing being constructed first. It is interesting that, in contrast to all the resources that have been put in by the Department of Food Honourable members interjecting.
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