First Meeting of the Council of Bishops of the ROCA Diaspora District
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First Meeting of the Council of Bishops of the ROCA Diaspora District August 19/September 1, 2017 Valley Cottage, New York The Holy Martyr Andrew Stratelates and with him 2,593 Martyrs Attendees: Archbishop Andronik Bishop Stefan Protopriest Gregoriy Kotlaroff Protopriest Sergey Klestov Protopriest Nikita Grigoriev Hieromonk Joseph (Chetkovsky) Priest Dimitry Dobronravov Yuri Lukin Mark Kotlaroff Alexandra Manak Participating by telephone: Bishop Andrei Protopriest Oleg Mironov Protopriest Oleg Gritsenko Protopriest John Trepachko Deacon Nikolai Trepachko Deacon Timothy Clader Reader Alexey Klestov Dimitri Gontscharow Agenda 1. Decision on the formation of the Diaspora District, consisting at the present time of 3 dioceses. 2. Adoption of Provisional Regulations of ROCA. 3. The question of a First Hierarch. 4. The procedure for holding meetings of the Council of Bishops with the participation of the District Council. 5. The question of the name of the Diaspora District in Russian and in English. 6. The procedure for accepting clergy from the Moscow Patriarchate. 7. The canonical position of the Omsk clergy. 8. The question of the parish jurisdiction in Brisbane, Australia 9. Other matters. ....................................................... The meeting began at 6:15 pm with the singing of Heavenly King. Yuri Lukin: We must choose a secretary. Vl. Stefan, do you want to propose someone? Bp. Stefan: A secretary only for today's meeting? Yuri Lukin: I will make a sound recording and will transmit it to Vl. Andrei, so he can compose the minutes of the meeting. Vl. Andrei, do you agree? Bp. Andrei: Yuri, we need to choose a secretary of the Council of Bishops, and not for just one session. Yuri Lukin: Do you think that we should choose a secretary for the Council of Bishops now? Bp. Stefan: Vl. Andrei, are you considered to be the secretary of our District? Yuri Lukin: Vl. Andrei, if you agree, you will serve as secretary for today. And then the question of who should be appointed as secretary of the Council of Bishops will be decided later. Yuri Lukin: The first item on the agenda is "Decision on the formation of the Diaspora District, currently consisting of 3 dioceses." Vl. Andrei, would you comment on this agenda item. Bp. Andrei: Our meeting -- the Council of Bishops with the participation of representatives of the clergy and laity -- is a very important event. According to the canons, each Bishop rules his diocese, having in his diocese the fullness of hierarchical power. But there are questions that go beyond the boundaries of one diocese, and these broader church questions are decided in conciliarity, by the Council of Bishops led by the First Hierarch. This is the canonical order of church administration. We do not have this now. Although we are in communication we do not have a canonical Church administration. According to the canons and Decree No. 362, we must create an organ of conciliar church administration. That is why we are gathered here. Yuri Lukin: Does anyone want to add anything to what Vl. Andrei said? Bp. Stefan: But we will return to this issue later? Yuri Lukin: We thought of discussing each issue in the order of the agenda or do you want to read all the questions first? Bp. Andrei: Items 1, 2 and 3 are interrelated. They are essentially one question. We are talking about the formation of a Diaspora District, but the District must exist on the basis of some charter. This charter is Item 2 item of the agenda: "Adoption of Provisional Regulations of the ROCA." Again, the District must have a chairman, and this is the third item on the agenda. These first three items of the agenda are better discussed together. Mark Kotlaroff: In that case, you need to read these first three items. Yuri Lukin: (reads the first three items of the agenda). Archbp. Andronik: Vl. Andrei, I have a question. The third item on the agenda is the question of the First Hierarch. Does this mean that we must definitely choose a First Hierarch now or can the senior bishop of our District simply serve as the chairman? Bp. Andrei: Vladyka, we must make a decision on this issue. Prot. Nikita: Vladyka Andrei, I have a small question for you. Do you think our current meeting is authorized to make a decision on the formation of the Church District? Did I understand you correctly that you questioned the authority of our meeting to create such a District? Bp. Andrei: No, Fr. Nikita. This meeting was called for the purpose of making such a decision. The decision on the formation of the District, in accordance with Decree No. 362, must be made by the Bishops. Under Decree No. 362, a bishop who is cut off from the higher Church authority, should contact other bishops and form a District. But we do not have a higher Church authority, we are all in this circumstance ... The separate existence of dioceses as we now have is uncanonical. We not only have the right but we have to do it. It is our duty. Moreover, by Decree No. 362 this obligation is assigned to the senior bishop in the group. Among us this is Vl. Andronik. This should be on his initiative, his authority. He must demand it. And the fact that our meeting is expanded, to include the participation of the priesthood and laity, again corresponds to the decisions of the Local Council of 1917. Bp. Stefan: I want to add about the first item: we all immediately agree that we accept Patriarch Tikhon’s Decree No. 362, as the foundational document for our times. This is undisputable. Yuri Lukin: I want to clarify that Vl. Stefan is commenting on the first point of the draft "Provisional Regulations of the ROCA." I propose we go to the analysis of this document. Of course, only the Bishops have the right to vote on the issue of whether or not to accept this document. Bp. Andrei: We need to keep to the order of the agenda. Item 1 of the agenda: Decision on the formation of the Diaspora District. Do we make this decision? Multiple voices: Yes. Bp. Andrei: So, we have formed the Diaspora District? Archbp. Andronik: Yes Bp. Stefan: There is no question on this item. Prot. Nikita: In my opinion, this leads to the next question. Maybe it's worth examining now. When Vl. Stefan was under Vl. Tikhon, he was appointed bishop not only of Trenton, but also of North America. Vl. Andronik was also considered to be ruling bishop in North America. Is it not necessary to establish the boundaries of their dioceses now, i.e., what are these boundaries? Since we are now in the same District, should we not specify the boundaries of the dioceses? Bp. Stefan: Clergymen and lay people do not elect bishops for themselves. We can discuss this later. Bp. Andrei: On the 2nd item of the agenda, "Adoption of the Provisional Regulations of the ROCA." This text was sent in advance for all to study. Corrections were made. Should we now go through this whole text again, or, if everyone is already acquainted with it, should we simply accept it as it is? Yuri Lukin: I think that we need to go through the whole text, this is why we have gathered here. Bp. Stefan: I have a somewhat delicate question: it is written here that the church districts should be in Eucharistic communion with each other, i.e., we must be in communion with other Districts. But what if this communion is impossible because of some kind of heresies? Bp. Andrei: Well, it goes without saying, if for some reason it is impossible to have communion, then we will not have it. Bp. Stefan: But I'm worried about the word "must". That is, will we not have the right to separate from another group. Prot. Nikita: I think that what is meant here is that we must be in communion because we all share the same faith and belong to the same Church. We are only divided for administrative purposes into districts. Bp. Andrei: Vladyka, in my opinion, the word "must" is useful because we have become so fragmented that people have a changed consciousness. They think that communion between churches is like a political union; for example, one country concludes an alliance with another for the sake of some interests. However, this is not how it should be. The Church is one. Communion should be maintained with all who are Orthodox, i.e., if there are no canonical reasons preventing communion with someone, then we should be in communion. It has become common today that people live next to each other but do not share church communion for no clear reasons. It is not right. So this word “must” helps to overcome such an incorrect consciousness, to overcome isolation. We are used to living in isolation. Prot. Nikita: It seems to me that one phrase would clarify this point: to the words "should be in communion" we can add "if there are no canonical obstacles." All Bishops agree to add a reservation: "if there are no canonical obstacles." Bp. Stefan: (reads the draft of the Provisional Regulations in Russian, § I-3: Mark Kotlaroff reads the English translation.) Yuri Lukin: Does anyone have any comments on this paragraph? Bp. Stefan: I spoke with Vl. Andronik and we think that is too early for us to elect a First Hierarch, especially "for life." This is a complicated question. Bp. Andrei: I have a comment. As Vl. Stefan said just now, and Vl. Andronik wrote about this earlier, it is premature to choose the First Hierarch now.