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Or. .tI Ano.;\\·("rs to Questions:
·Starred QUMtions Nos. 229 to 233, 239 and l.p 1--31
\Vriu ~n An'\wM'l to Q,.ie5tiOIU :
Starn·d Que.,tions Nos. 234-. 237 and 2tO. 3"" --41
t:ll~!atred Questions Nos. 2193 to 2'101, :2:204 to 22-l0' ;,1.!42 h) l]S(j , 2358 to 2361, 2~l6:l to 2377 and '1379 to 2]9'1. 41 --257
~lal('m{"nts of Pllhlic ,\('1 'lUlll-; Committt'C' . 265-266
Cnmm;ttee on Private M("'mbr.-~' Uills and Resolutions: Eleventh Report
Bwine'S" Advisory Commilte('" Xinth Report •
Supplementary Demands for Grants (Gcnr-ral). 1980-8 I -,\"altmml Prllfnftd . . . 268 l\iatlers undrr rult' 377
'.1' SuspelHion of certain tr,lin services in some area., (If Gujarat due La sh )rtage of coal. Shri J·locibltai R. Chaudl;ari • . . . ~ii) Railway servict"s in Lakhimpur District of U.P. S:,rimari Usha Verma , . 269-270 (iiii Supply of e~ential raw material., to South~rn Zone Shri K. Arjunan . • • l,iv) Deplorable condition of the employees of Messn. Giovanala- Binny, Ltd., C.ochin due to lock-out . Shri Xav;i'T Arakal '271 - -_. ------_.. _--- *The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indicateS that the Question WM actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. {ii) CoLt.: ,..:
(v) Need Cor declaring Urdu as a second official language in Uttar Pradesh shri Zainul Bash~,.
(vi) Late-running of trains Sh,.i RamQvarar Shastri
(vii) R,. Joh and othf"f Tf"S("rvations for Backward Classt"s S"ri Jaipal .\·in~h K:.uhyap
J)uhlic Prr.miM·s (E\·jction of Unauthorised Occupants) AUll'udm('"nt Bill - Motion to Con"idn -- Shri Bhishma Narain Singh 274---2-,6 Shri T. R. Shamanna 2~-282 Shrj H. K. L. Bhagat 283--287 Shri Surya !':arayan Singh 2~7-288
Rc-~jJ.tnatinn hy r..1c-mh,.r (SI,r; Ja~al1,.al" P.l/sadia)
J\.it1tioll Rf'. Sitlliltillll arisjn~ out of re:-ccnt Communal Riots
Shrj H. \'. l)t"sai 289-3':'''2 Shri Ghulam !\{ohammad Khan :)02-311 Shri Mohan Lal Sukhadi.l 3I1-320 Shrj Jyotinnoy Bosll . 320-33 ) Shri J\·falik \f. .\{.. \. Khan . 330-339
Shri Jagiivan Ram . 33 ;-3.;;J ~hri 11. K. L. nha~"'t · 351-359 Shri Era :\'{,lh.11} 359-362 Shri P. :'\am~yal . 362-369 Shrj Ram .Jethmalani 369-375 Shri .. \rif ),{ohaJll1llad Khaft 375-387 Prof: ~tadhu Dandavate · 387-393 Shrj Indrajit Gupta · 393-404 Shrimati Mohsina Kidwai . · 405-412 Shri .Ashfaq Hussain. · 412-41 7 Shri Ram Nagina Misra · 417-421 S'ld J.l ipal Singh Kas.hyap . . 422 -42 5 S lui R. S. Sparrow 425-428
Slui Abdul Samad . 42 8--43 l Shri TaM q Anwar 431-434 (iii)
CoLUMNS
Shri Chitta Basu 434-436 Shri G.M. Banatwalla 438---442 Shri Zainu) Basher . · 442-448
Shri ~tuLaffar Hussain 448~-45 Dr. A.LT, Ai'mi 455--459
Dr. GoJam Yazdani 459---461 Shri jalil Abbasi 461-464 Shri Saminuddin 464~67
Shri Zail Singh 467--478 LOIC SABRA DEBATES
1 MR. SPEAKER: Without the con- WI( SABBA sent of the member I did not do it. I took the consent of the member con- Wednesday, December' 3. 1980/AgTa- cerned whet..'1er he would that it hayano 12, 1902 (Saka) like can also be rtplied by. same other The Lok Sabha met at Eleven 01 the Minister. Ther. I did it. Clock. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Who is LMr. Speaker in the Chair J the concerned member'? MR. SPEAKER: The member COll- OR..4L A~S'VERS TO QUESTIONS (('rned is wh,) has put the question. sHRr JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am on SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Once Q point of order on the question of th\.· <.l question is tt.bled, it be<:omes the Eusiness of the House. The question:- property of th{. House. Let Us set it relating to t ~e Ministry of Industry right. Once a question is tabled. have been shifted to next week. When It has become the property of the House. the Parliament Session is on, the Mb- ister goes away. No doubt, a cOl'rl- MR. SPEAKER: It is all right, but it t~(:ndum has been issued but all tht, is coming on the lOth. cluestion.::; rel~ting to th; Ministry of l!Jdustry ha\"L' been shifted to next SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Why \', eek, becausc it is inconvenient to the wholesale shifting? Why shoUld not Minister. Is the Parliament subordi- the other Minister reply? (lnteN'Up- r'ate to th~ Minister of Industry? tions). This is too much. (Interrup- tions). Then what happens today is that there is a void. 1oth ther~ :r-.m. SPEAKER: I did it with the ... On (hlterruptions) . will be over-crowding. r MR. SPEAKER: There was no SlIRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU· Whv question of over-crowding, Gld he nOt authorise the other ~iniste~' to allS\\'er them? MR. JYOTIRMOY BOSU: How? MR, SPEAKER: I don't think (In- SliRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- terruptions) , Let us go with the DER: It is a \ cry pertinent question. business, SHRr JYOTIRMOY BOSU: It i~ SHRI JYO'[lIiMOY BOSU, Do not very humiliating. nllow these things; do not m'ake the Parliament subservient to the Prime MR, SPEAKER: There is no qUf~S Minister's Secretariat. (lnteTT'Uptions). Han ()f humiliation. This was done on the request and with the consent of MR, SPEAY...ER; No, no, Mr. Jyotir- the member concerned who had put moy Bosu, this is improper. (Inter· the question. ruptions) , This is most improper. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: It is SHRI JYOTIRYOY BOSU: What is most unfortunate. It is a sUl.·render to the practice? The practice is that the bureaucracy. .M.inister who bas to reply a question can authorise the other lIinlste:r to MR. SPEAKER: There is nO ques- reply on his behalf. A whole lot baa tion of surrender, whatsoever. (1,,- been shifted. terruptiou) . 3 DECEMBER 3, 1980 Oral AfIftDerB SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am stale... ,eat saying 1 have never seen it-th~ wholesale questions have been sbitted IIDpertaJai IUlJestioDs eOIlveyecl &e (lfltermptiona) , State GoYemwents reprc1.iac 1IJU!aI'th- in, Of i111clt aJ'IIIS aDd amm-w. MR. SPEAKER: That does not meEttl that you have not seen it. I am pre, ( i) A small cell may be created in Police Headquarters eXClusively siding, I :lm doing it with my clue the conscience, for tackling the problem of unlicensed manulacture, sale and possession of m'ms, ammunition and explosives; SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You arc :'dting a new precedent. (ii) All Sub-Divisional Police Offi- cers and all officers incharge of PoIioe MR, sPEAKER: Shri Chandrade ~ m Cf¥ri it; aMlf ... iti ~11( ~ , ..'t~ ...."" :~, 1980 4., "" iR1l4T ., ~ ~ if 11 fl ~ 1 f(qii'C4:;;i, 7 <1«*'11, it '1mf\' t , Wt t:mf 4t 'AfllaiWI'1 1fT I : : : h l?f. ifi. it ~.~, 5 i\' ift ift ~ Iff t ~W 276ifiICfHI\ilmf, ~ l{e .fto. ~ ~ ~ it I lOt. SPEAKER: Before the Hon. Member puts the next supplementary 1 may inform the august HoUle that ,,) .... ".iIIiIC.: if ~ """ yesterday. in the Bu.sil\ess AdvisorY lfit t :- O:wnmitteet we were of the consensus that no Question .should be given mOre than 8 minutes. So, please con- Andhra Pradesh, Arms seized: 43. fine yourselves particularly to this time-limit, so that we can haVe more Haryan&.: Guns-12. of Questions. Pistols-176. Now r Mr. Arif Mohammad Kban. Revolver-I. ~ wi: ~ ,,) _em. Knives-l'l. ~ it ~N4i (f it; ~ ill "f'l41., Barchas-l? . ~ tm t, ~ W ~ 'Ifaf(4d ~ lAiR tft 1ft Ni.,4« t fir; ~ .. ~ Sw0rds-3. 'R ~ m \'iI11i« it; 1mf ~ Durin. Oetober 1980, 288 caleB were ... t, .m.a w W'm:" .. ",.,1Ii registered Or action takes1 u.ndeI' file t til; N'8ir ift;r 1f'it if ~ ""itPR4 Arms Act. 7 a Himachal Prad_: Total number of .... ., life te ...... 84,_1 _._...1 ...... arms aeized: II. Durinc 1110, 218 ca ... were taken UP. + -231'. SHRI CHANDRABBAN ATP..ARE PATIL: Punjab: Pistoll/Revolver (Deai) 140; PiIItolI/Revolver (Foreiln made) SHRI BALASA.HEB VIKHE 78 ••.• PATIL: MR. SPEAKER: This.iS a routine thing .... Will the Minister of HOME AF- SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA: FAIRS be pleaBed to lay a statement Cartrldges-276. Then, regarding Trl· showing; Pure Arms 254. Upto 10-10-80.. Then re,arding 'U'.P. arms seized; 1,812. We have Bombs 9, Grenades 14, Cartridges (a) the number of police officials 4757. Sir, rtgarding Delhi,. PistoV and constables i.njured or who lost Revolver-60, knives dalcers--766. their lives during the communa" riots Cartridaea 197 ..• from August.. 1980 onwards in some parts of the country; MR. SPEAKER: It is all right. Mr. Makwana, you need not read the ( b) the step£ Government ha '.'c whole of it. taken to protect their lives; and MR. SPEAKEH: Yes, Mr. Bosu? (e) the steps Government propose t.) take to crea~ confidence in SHRI JYOTllUdOY BOSU: Sir, the their minds mis<;hief is done mainly through two tlnd boost Ul) their morale'? items. One is explosives. for which you require potassium chloride and certain bari'Jm chemicals-l could not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tell you because 1 do not know science TIlE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS much-and the other is steel, fO~ the (SHRI YOGEr..1JlRA MAKWANA): (oil manufacture of fire arms both smgle A statement giving information re- shaft and multiple shatto Will the hon. ceived SO far from the State Govern- M.inister please tell Us whether they ments, Union Territories is laid on the are tryin& to catch the root cause'? Table of the House. Information in Potassium chloride cannot be produc- respect of the remaining States/UTs is ed in the roadside factories. How are being collectM and will be laid 0:1 these people g(:tting explosives, potas- the Table of the House. sium chloride aDd things like that? One truck-load of potassium chloride was caught red-handed in Calcutta. 1 would' like to know from the hono (b) According to the normal prac· Minister whether any special effort is tice policemen are deploYed in suffi- being made to draw up an exhaustive cient num.bers and are provided with list of sources of raw materials and necessary pNtective equipment while the manufacturing units whiCh have dealing with riots. the equipment for production of fire arms and fire guns? SHR! YOOENDRA. MAKWANA: I (c) Working conditions and wei- said that all eftorts are being made fare measuret:, which have a direct to seize illep1 arms and the sources bearing on the efficiency and morale frotn which they ~ includinI the of \he ~ fGnBJ,. are beiDg eon- raw materials. staDtl7 reviewed. 9 Oral A...... AOBABAYANA 12, till (SAJ[A) Orel A ...... 10 81 , '.' N __ ,,~ ojJiNJls MJ t:fIIUMillS iajllFlfl", ... WI tAft, lws ;...... rilCs liffl't AarpJt. Iq8o. . -----r------Sf. X&IlV! of State!L\T. No. No. ~(I • injured Idlled . _-- .---. ----- !. A ..dhra Pra(~h • I Nil (minor Injuries) _. Harya.nOl Nil l\U I. HiJUachal Pradbh • :\11 Nil .... J.uwll· and Ka NH Nil ~l, \radh\OI, Pr~drsh ~ 1 D.S.P. ~Il 6 CQD5· l tables .\(;u.ipur Nil Nil. :L ~aJr.. land ~il Nil .1 Punjab) Nil Nil Ntl Nt1 :1. C;;ikkim Nil Nil :.1 .. I'ripllld Nil Nil 13· ~.ndaman .mel ;";j,:ot·.u bland!! Nil Nil '4· H lInacbaJ Pradr.. h Nil Nii 15, (:hand.rn {P.T. Nil Nil t~. i/aof'a alv' ~apl' Ha"f'li Nil Ni. 1 '. lXThi 59 Nil lPo. noa. naIr.an alld Diu Nil Nil Nil Ni zn. l...akshadwtT'p Nil Nil ~1. Pundichrrryj ~il Nil SHRI CBANDRABHAN ATHARE being constantly reviewed--ao far. al PATIL: 'May 1 know from the bon far as I know mOlt of the Po&e per- lIini8ter, white answering paragraph sonnel are unable to get accftlflllOda- lifo. 3 it 91.. stated that tbe wor1dnf. tion to live in while they are required CODditioIls and welfare meuurea whieh to take shelter or eccomn'Odatton .~in bave a direct bearing.4)O. the eftki"'C? slum at"MS in Bom.bay, wh8t.bIJr~ ~ morale of the police.forees.. an Government iaas an,. plan »~ .... 11 HeEl". 1,1_ Oral A.,."... fa .utabJe accommodation for the Poliee. ~ ~ ~ 50 {'iIR ~ __ ia employment, and if 10 what it measur.. ..,. -.. takea 10 _...... fiw:qt.n~~~ q'{ ~ t ~ ~ it, ~ ~ ~ 8IDU YOGENDRA MAKWANA: ~'" ~ ~ ~~~Ijt lit x.. aDd order iI a State subject and t the .... Government is taking neces- ~~~~it~1WilIfQT~ ~ action for hou8inc of pOlicemen. t ? UDder the Central Government there ..... Police Housiilg scheme. It in existence up to 1976-77. But duringw- ~~ q t ~ ~ \4'~''l1'' the Janata Party regime they have 10' ~ r"4iH"~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ecrapped it. Now apin, fOr the revi ~ ~ ~ Yal Of the same scheme we are dia- CR m• f fit;' 1rifi't cWlll.ac with the Plannin, comm~on ~~~m'it~~~'lW anA it wUl be COQaidered. ~t~~CR ~ ~t SHRI CHANDRABHAN ATHARE m 1fiT ~ 11\1 "'''\'111 ~ ~ PATIL: Sir, the Polke are required to tl~~t.R~qm~t lie on duty fO).· 24 hours and hence fIfl ~itm~~t~~ they are unable to look after 1he\r families. May I know what plana the ~~~qffitAt St..... _ lhU., rlll& of miJJimum 1t4C'S itl tilt efll/b.J1'/IIIIl in "" ulUtrudiDtl ",. mtAn tm4r1t« of fN4s (IT i. #iGJdi"l ifl'1ahfJIAf s. ~ 1t,. 'U"iO;1 Territory Un'C1cilled Semi*Skilled Skilled elencal Date of No. revision _.------5 6 7 8 t. ('r'lltral Sphere R'.4.45 RS·5.56 Rs.7.Hl Rs. 8.go 10. 7.12 to 6.sn fo 8.' 2 to 10.40 tf) '3.00 to 10 ....0 ....\ndbra Pradeah Rs.5.15 R.lt. 7.35 RI. 10.30 Rs. 8.00 20-8-,6 per dayor per dayor per day per day R.I. '55.00 RI. :ug!- or R.I. 310,'- or Rs. 241/- per month p.m. p.m. p.m. R. •• 6.00 Rs. 8.00 pet day per day Or lts.t80/- or R.I. Illo/- p.m. p.m. as. 3.90 R.I. 4.6;, R.,. 6.20 Rs. 19.75 as. 5.60 June, '78 m ~ w ~ R ... 4.85 Rs. 5.80 Rs. 7.45 R.1. 8.00 5. Ou.tarat* . Rt.5.50 Rs. 5.75 RI.7.65 Rs. 8.50 RI. 175 to 6.38 to 8.~o to 9.35 to 200/- p.m. 6. Huyana Lowest RI. 9.25 and highest Rs. 30.00 (Not ciassified 2-1-80 accor. to skills) 7. Himachal Prade.h Rs.6.!l_J Rs.6·:.25 to 6.~ to I 1.00 pel' day per day c.- OT Rs. 187.50 R1. 187.50 to to 1951- 3'30 /- p.m. p.m. 8. Jammu &. J(it.~hmi .. ---Not yet &.xedl---- 9. Karnataka Rs. 3.00 lu. 6.00 R". ,.00 R.I. 10.00 to 4.75 t(' R.oo to 9.00 to ' .... 00 • RI. 4.00 Other cate pies not specified wage rat~ 15-s-n to 4.95 "ary Jls..... soto R..... 6.95 per day. \ t. !\{adhya Pradesh R'.2.00 Rs.3.15 Ri..... 30 Rs. 12.00 to 2.75 to 4.30 to 5.50 to 116/- p.m. • R.I. 3.75 Rs., ,00 R.I. 9.00 2-10-77 to ,.00 to 11.00 to 13.00 13. M ..nipul' Not clUli6ed accordiq to akiU. waae rates vary from RI. 3.00 to 3.SO p« dty . RI.8.00 •• RI. 10.00 J-s-So 17 Oral ARStOers AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (BAlCA) 0teI A,....,., 18 S. State/Union Territory Unskilled Semi-skIU~ Skilled HaabJ}' Clt"l'cial Date of :'Ilo. skilled re\.ilion 3 5 6 i 8 --- .. -- ---.. - -_-----_._------.- ---- l.j. .'\.gala.lld Rs. 8.00 &'1. 10.00 Rs. J:J.oo 31- 1-80 to 15.00 In. Ori~. . Rs. 4.00 Its. s.oo Rs. 7.00 Rs.8.00 1 i. PLUljab* R". 9.50 Other catc gori(':'\ not specified hichot rate is R!>. 25.90 10. Raja!lthaJI . R.:.. 7.00 R'i. !w!\ R ... oz40.:;o per day to to or ~'},i p.m. 337 p.m. RI. 182 to 187/- p.m. 19. Tamil Nadu· Not classified according to Ikil1&-wage ratC'l vary RI. 10/. '-1200']6 from Rs. 6.00 to RI. I~.OO per day. to la/· 20. Tripura Rs.4.00 R".5.50 Rs·7.00 .. Ri. ,.00 .1 t. Sikkil1l @ (~ot duswd accordinc to Rilla. The loweat rate is R.I. 8.00 and the highest rate it R.I. 17.00 - coven workers horne on muster roU, in the Stak) Not under Minimum '''ap Act. u. CUar Pradesh Rs. 6.00 (Rates not fiKcd accOrding to categoria). per day or Rs. 156/- p.m. Ri. 131.00 (Including D.A. according to zones) to 206.85 per month. 24 ..\ndaman and Xicobar Rs. 5.50 R~. 6.6,:; Rs. 8.05 Ra. 9.65 RI. 6.65 to 8.05 2'). ,\rullachal Prade.h ______~ot yet fixed -.-----.----- ~. Chandigarh . Rs. 6.2,5 (Reit of t.he employees not classified Richest rate i1 R~. to. 75\ 28. Delhi . RI.9.2 .') R'I. 10 .....0 RI. 12.30 RI. 'J.7:) per day per day to or or Rs·38, RI. 2401- R.I. 320 p.mo accor· p.m. p.rn. dine,- 'luaJUica- cationI #Linked with CPI number. ~MiDimum W.,. Act has not yet been extended to SOddIll. DEClWBER 3, 1880 20 ------S. Se&te/Union Territory U ..lkiUed Semi ... kilkd Skilled HiJbly Clmcal Date of No. skilled re\isioa 3 5 6 7 8 29. Goa. Daman and Dill . RI. 4.,50 R\. 7,(1(1 Rs. JO/- Rs. 8.00 to (0 to to Rs. 5.50 R~. g.on Rs. II/- R!I. 10.00 30. lAbhadweep (R«I of tilt· empl{'y'~("!!i not cla'lIified 1-8-77 Maximum raft' is R!. 8.00) 31. Mizorarn --___.:'\ot yf"t ""ro -.----- ----Nnt yf't "xed .------N ofla.-Rance of wtlle rate 11 according to zones. SHRI K. PRADHANl: As per the SHRI p. VENKATA REDDY: It auwer liven by the bon. 14ini1ter, I was published on lrd September. J have lone through the Guette Ex- month. time is given for receivinl ..aordinar¥ of the Government of objections and suggestions. 'l1lat Inclla Sectlon 3, where under unskil- period is over. Now, a meeting of the led labour, I find that the age limit fOr minimum wages advisory board is co- bo.r. is above 12 years. Regarding ing to take place today, i.e. 3rd De- '4(Xr~ child", DO ... Jimit .. pre... cember. After they have coasiderect cribed. May I know ~ till' Minister it the necessary notification will be Whether children and girls of any age issued. are allowed to work in building and conatn&ction worb and if." how the wale is determined? """'" p;wn ~ : ~et ~ : li- ~ 1Rft ~ ~~~~rj SHRI P. VENKATA REDDY: For f1t;- ~ ~ ~ ctiN ~ t \R boys and girls who are below 18 years, they are being giwn 80 per cent of ttt1' ~ lAl.a ~ 'fi"f ~ t, m the wage that is fixed for the adults. ~ fCijqf SHRI K. PRADHANI: In the last SHRl P. VENKATA REDDY: There para of this notification, it is men- is no discrimination between mates tioned, uNoUce is hereby given that and females. the said proposals will be taken into consideration On Or after the expiry (lQ"'(1i1:: ~ ~, of 2 months from the date on which 'IT ""..-T : the Gazette containing this notifica- ~~~qm~~fitl~~ tion is made available to the public". t~~~~Cfrr~(flf~ It was published on 3rd September. 1980. But it is not knOWn when it ~,mll~~~q~~ "'u made available to the public. May ~ ~ ~ 11R'Ef ~ U.~ t tih: ~ I know wbetb. the time is over and ~1ft~.m~~~ the notification bas been implement- ed? ron it;- ~ ~-R11' ~ tf;T \'! ~l On" A.IaNeT. AGRAHAYANA ~ 180& (BAKA) Orel A....,.. .. If" 61f firllf'f..-r t, ~ Wf if(f f1'1'lT cal plans !or the present and imJlle... 1IIff ? ~ amr ~ ~ iQfRT :;mr;n i, diate fllture with regard to the --- -..~•• R tifarious use. of Atomic EneraY'" fiJ ..... it ~ ~ ~ .. varioUs 1lelds of national lite; {f1Il '"' ~ f41n tm' t, m~ wr (b) the further requirements of re- 1Jf\1I( t ? sources and dorts OIl OUr own &Del from abroad necessary for reaearch OR SH1U P. V&NKATA REDDY: With development and practical utUiaatioa recard to Sikkim. i.a. consultation wit.h Of atomic energy; and the Sikkim Govern.ment, the Central Govem.meat is takinc necessary steps (c) the factors or 'forces hinderinc fOr extendinc this laboUr leaialation. fullest possible development in tIda regard? .n ~i'h""'~ ~: t:(Ifi ~ ifiT THE MINISTER OF STATE 1. ~~ttbr ~~~;rtT TliE DEPARTMENTS OF SClENC& .. AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELmC- 11PJr t, ~~ iRfln' t, ~ lflit I TRONICS (SHRI C. P N. SINGH),: (8) to (c). A statement 'is laid on \be' SI:IRI P. VENKATA REDDY: At Table of the House. per the Act the appropriate Govern- ments are the State Governments as well as the Central Government. fUner of. Where it oomes within the purview (a) Plans tor exPloitation the country's capacity to develop and of the State Governments, the State Governments are empowered to revise USe atomic energy in variaue anu like generation o't power and inct.ua.- the minimum wages. try, agriculture and medicine durittC 1~ are being Inalized. '"~~"!fm:~~, (b) 8nd (c). Beaides ftnance ade- Jj' ~ 1ieiT it It ~ ~ i flfi quate industrial capacit7, to fabricate large 8Jld sophisticated'_..u, ~ ~ "'" it Rtr~ ~ fif;ir t., equipment, and trained technical 1I'llR it; 1ft11r ~ tit ~ man- ti m m power are essential tor this purpose ~, ~ ~ ~ 1ii~4a< Cfilf International cooperation in techno- ~t~atrt ~ ro~T logy and supply of material and equJp- ment not available in the country i.I .~? alao an important requirement ani where this is JlQt forthcoming we have SHRl P. VENKATA REDDY: Sir, to develop Our OWn capacity. Inade- it is extended. to all private and pub- quacies in these matters hinder fullest lic sector and all the industries and possible development and efforts are continually made to overcome these there is no d.i8crimination. Minimum wages are fixed for all. There is no difficulties. discrimination. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Sic, what I like to know and the country PIaa fOr U8es of Atomic beru in also likes to know is whether and ...... Fields when we are proposing to become self-sufficient in the matter Of know- *233. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: how, the resources etc., with regard W'lll the PRIME MINISTER be pleas- to development of Duclear energy for ed to state: our multifarious needs. For exam- ple, Sir. we haVe just recently ~ (a) ..t is the latest position with seeing how our eftons are beina bta- reard to Inc1ia'. cal'8City RDi practi- ..... due t. the delay iwa ...... , 23 Oral AtI.I1Dt'rs DBCDIBER 3, 1980 Oral A,.,...,..,.. 24 enriched uranium. !rom USA aDd in SHRI C P. N. SINGH; With n- iuturr alIO that can be apprehended. gard to the hori. member's question of So, in .uch a situation, I want to Part (1), t would like to inform the know the exact pc»ition with reaard member that We .have taken )en~ to OUr techrnicaJ know-how the re- strides as far as overcomina au.!" elec- .ouree" and the Governmeni's deter- tricity needs go. In the field of in- mination to become self-sufficient in dustry, atomic energy is being utilis- this reRard? ed to a great extent, and 1 would SHRI C. P N. SINGH: Sir, this b like to just say a few things in orUer not to take too much time of the H field which is very very advanced, House. In industry it is used to deter- In the advanced (!ountries, and wt! are doing OUr hHt. In fact, Sir, we mine sUt movement to enable dredg- ing in harbours and prevention of ero- have to take into l'on~ideratiOn the :,ion; locating blockuges and leaks in ('xisten~ 'Of hindering factors sUCh as buried pipelines; water seepage in restrictions pl~ed on exports of cer- tain equipment and materials b;y dams and locating defects in cutings, some supplier countries and changing fOrgings and fabricated components. international situations. With all that, the country is fortunate in having In the field Of medicine, it is applied s(~ientists and engi.nleers who have, to in diagnosis to evaluate :functioning of a great extent, managed to overcome the thyroid. blood circulation, diges- various difficulties and the indigeni- tion, presenCe of lesions in lungs, sation programme i~ at a pace which liver, kidneys, brain; treatment of is very heartening. dreaded diaeases like cancer and steri- lisation ot medical products like dres- SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Sir, the sings, ointments. answer in Part (a) is valUe and to Me, it appears evasive. I like to know whether the Government feels In the field of agriculture, it is used the necessity Of applying nuclear fOr developing high yielding varieties t'nergy partlcularly in View of the ~act of rice, *,heat, ground-nut; disinfes- that with regard to thermal power we tation of wheat; studies on extending afe facing trouble all around, with shelf lite of pota~s, onions. 'fruits J'cgard to development of hydel also and fish. we are lagging behind. In such a ~ituation, Sir, to meet oUr po~ re- As far as the encouragement to quirements, industrial requirements scientiSts of Indian origin who have and to apply nudear energy in the settled abroad is concerned, we have face of changing the conditions fbr the to a great extent given a lot of incen- better in particular areas, barron areas tives. There are various fields of a etc.• in sUch a situation, whether we sensitive nature and unlortunately. have got any time-bound programme. we do not haVe that advanced. teclulo- 1980-85 years is mentioned, that i! logy. But the Government of India being stated. Whether We will go on has always and at present is also tak- applying nuclear energy in the mat- ing ste})s to get these scientists who ter of industrial development, even are working in these advanced fields agricultural development and chang- so that we Can take advantage of their ing the topography of the country also. el\.-pertise. With ~gard to para (2), sir, whe- ther it i5 a tact that sOme of our nu- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Is dear scientists are not getting en- the hon. Minister aware of the fad oourqement to work bar~ to work that wherever atomic energy is har- efteetively and sO much more incen- nessed for peaceful P\1l'POSIes it is tive is required fOr those who are being utilised not only for dredJing working here, !or tbOae who have the ports 8lld harbours but also for tone abt'oad atld to attract thQl. in- divertin the direction of -the rivers side! and to ~t extent, even contro1lin~ and A1UtDef'S AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Oro. A.,..,.. the tloOcls. I would like to know whe- aware that in the past ~w yeara be- ther any concrete research work is cause Of various power break-downs going on in this direCtion to see that some of the construction in heavy the atomic energy is harnessed for water plants has taken more time than this purpose? scheduled. For instance, the heavy watl!r plant at Baroda which was to SHRI C. P. N SINGH: The hon. be commissioned in 1977, could not Member has gi~ a very good sug- become truly operative. 'It is only gestion and we will definitely look now that it has started 'WOrking. into it. Similar is the case with the Rajasthan Atomic Power Station. So. wherever We had these difficulties, the present DR. KARAN SINGH: In the deve- Government b glvmg maximum lopment of atomic technology in this thrust SO that unavoidable delays in country, the Bhabha Atomic Research the commissioning of projects, will not Centre in Bombay (BARC) has play- ht> repeatM. ed a critical role and yet we watch with surprise that after Dr Ramana was • transferred to Delhi, f~r a long time, the BARe remained without a ~ews Item capti0lled "step to IMine 'fun-time Director. In <1. critical eS- back Scientists from Abroad" tablishment like that which has got a key role to play, ,"I'ould the Govern- >:-239. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will ment be kind enough to tell us: whe- the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECH- ther a full time Director has been ~OLOGY be pleased to lay a state- appointed fOr BARe? If not. why thi~ ment showing: inordinate delay? When will tht: appointment be made? (a) whether attention of Govern- ment has been drawn to the report THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI- published in the Free Press Journal, :.1ATI INDIRA GANDHI): I agrcp Bombay dated 15 August, 1980 under with the hon Member that it should the caption "step to bring back scien- haVe a full-ti~e Director. But at the tists from abroad"; moment, Dr. Sethna who is a very capable and prominent scientist, is (h) if so, th(c~ details thereof; and looking after the centre. There are certain difficulties but we think that ( C) the action taken and progress these will be SOOn solved, made SO 'far? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI NIREN GHOSH: Is it a fact that certain atomic projects which THE DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRO. were scheduled to be completed 7, 8 NICS (SHRI C. P N. SINGH): (a) to Or 10 years back, are lagging behind (c). A statement' is laid on the Table fOr completion. l'f so, what are they'! When will they be completed? Can of the House. we manufacture an atomic gun of our own without importing equipment statement from Qutside? How 'far self-sufficiency we have achieved in this respect? (a) Yes, Sir. What are the equipment on which a ban has been put by the outside coun- (b) The Government of India aDd tries? the United Nations Development Pro- gramme haVe signed a project on SHRI C. P. N. SINGH: Regarding "Transfer of know-how through Ex- the bon. Member's question about de- patriate Specialists of Indian Origin" lays, I am sure the bon. Member is under which outstanding scientistsl DECI'AIrIBER 3, 1180 Oral A~s engineers/technologists etc. of Indian As far as the choice of e~ as origin residing abroad will be invited to who would be invited is concerne:t. to JlPend some time with Indian Ins- I would like to state that the follow- titutions to provide specific technical ing areas ha':e been given priority: inputs for development in priority areas. A sum of $ 1,00,000 has been High technology areas; developing initially allotted from the UNDP IPF areas; skills techniques and exper- allocation f'ar this year. There will be tise of a t) P£ not readily available I}() direct counterpart contribution of in the country. the Go~rnment of India. The cost of International tra.vel of the Scientists/ The other question was regarding Engineers etc. invited, as well as their the choice of experts. There I would per diem at UN rates, during their like to state tha.t the person selected stay in India, will be met out of UNOP should normally be one who has be- funds al10cated for the Project. come an expatriate either through a change of citizenship Or through be- coming a permanent resident abroad. (C) The particulars of about 300 He must be {l person whose qualifica- expatriate volunteers have been exa- tIOns and previous experience are of a mined by a Working Sub-Committee type which would enable him to make constituted for the purpose. Suitable a significant contribution in the pro- posed area. A suitable proforma Cales ~re referred to appropriate or,anisations for possible utnisation in 'vhich has been designed, is to be used the Ught of national priorities. Eight' to get the necessary background infor- mation specially about the specific cases have so far been finalised. Five contribution in the areas concerned. of them are expected to come to India The experts of the type available in befOre the end of the year. the country are not to be invited as far as possible. SHRI R K. MHALGI: It is good that SHRI R. K. MHALGI: It has been OUr scientists and experts abroad are stated in r~ply to (c) that about 300 invited to spend some time in Indian experts have been examined by the institutions. It is also an extremel" . .Y working committee so far and out of ~ Od thing that there is a satisfactory them 8 hav,:? been selected. May I response to the invitation. Ma.y I knOw from ·.vt.. ich countries these 300 know the con-lposition of the worki..ng persons of Indian origin have volun- of the sub-committee which is to sum- teered them~l.\lves for the selection? mon. t~e. applicants of the outstanding What are tht.? names of the 8 persons speclahbes. of Indian origin abroad? 'Nho have !J~n selected? Who are the guidelines for the sel'er- Whet are those five persons who are expected tion? What is the procedure being to come by the end of this month? adopted for the selection and areas of priOrity? SHRI C. P. N. SINGH: These 300 applicants were from Indians in !Vari- SHRI C. p. N. SINGH: A working ous parts of the world where these committee consisting of representatives technologies arE' very advanc!ed 'l'1le (,! the CSlR.. concerned Government names of the five persons who have institutions, public and private sector been selected and who are coming industries and the resident representa- \ eTyl SOOn are: tive of the UNDp baa been constitu~d to get, the formulation of criteria for Dr. S. M. Deshpande; application of the seheme. In the sub- Shri Mahendra P. Garg; committee, there are II number of Shri Satyajit Dutta; members. I ~ not think, I shouid waste the time of the House in naming Shri Yash Pal; these 17 members. Dr. Sushil Bhatia; Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Oral An.swers The other three are: needs of the three services and the Dr. S. Bhattacharya: civilian sector for manufacture of & heliCOPter; Dr. H. P. Didwania; Shri K. Thangamuthu. (b) if so~ what arc the propoSClls under examination; and Some of them will be here for a month and S<. me for two or 'i.hree (c) when the final decision is like.), months as is convenient to thl' scien. to be taken'~ tists who are cOming. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRlMATI PRAMILA DANDA- THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VATE: I would like to ask how many SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (3) to (c), No scientists have committed suicide or new proposals as such are Wlder con- died unnatural deaths during the last sideration. Mis. Hindustan Aeronau- 1en years ... tics Limited are designing an Advanc- ed Light Helicopter fOr meeting the MR. SPEAKER: Is that covered by future needs of the three Services. this • Question? (lnterrupticnu). SHRlMATI PRAMILA DANDA· SHRI p. M. SAYEED: In his reply VATE: Secondly, what stePs are being the hon. Minister has stated that the taken by the Government to prevent pToposal has bEen under consideration for designing a helicopter by the OUr scientists from going out of this Min- world? dustan Aeronautics Ltd, May I know from the hOll. Minister' whether the MR. SPEAKER: The first part does Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. is already not arise out of this. manufacturing helicopters and whe- tiler the new helicopter is being dee- SHRlMATl PRAMILA DANDA- igned by them independently: or In VATE: This is about scientists. So collaboration with any foreign coun- many scientists have committed SUi- try? cide. SHRI SHIVRAJ' V. PATIL: It is a MR. SPE..-\.KER: To the secoIld part. question relnting to the new design he can reply. Please repeat your sec- of helicopter. 'l1le Hindustan Aero- and part. r.autics Ud. is trying to develop a new design and in consultation with for· SHRIMATI PRAMlLA DANDA- eign firms. VATE: What steps are being taken by the Government to prevent our scieu- tists from going out of this world? SHRI P. M. SAYEED; It is always alleged that the quality and eft\ciency SHRI C. p. N. SINGH: This Ques- 01 our manufacturers are always in tion is reprding bringing back our question. May I know whether Gov- scientists from abroad and not frvrn trnment has undertaken any cost the other world. .&tudy of the helicopter and whether the quality and efficiency of the Dew ht'licopter proposed to be manufactur- ManUfaeture of heJ.ieopters ed have been ensured? + ·242. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: SHRr sHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Attempt is being made to develop a new kind SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- of helicopter which will meet1 the SEKARA MURTHY: needs of all the: three Forces; and the Will the Hiniater of DEFENCE be Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. is trYing pleased to state: to see that the helicopter is a good helicopter, 3 stroRg helicopter. a heli- (a) whether Union Ministry are copter whieh goes with great speed, examining new proposals to meet the a helicopter which meets all the needs. 3 I OrAl At'&IIH'I"I DBCB.MBER 3, 1180 Or4l AMtDer$ ~ SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- SHRI sHIVRAJ V. PATIL: We are DO: In view of the reply given by at a preliminary stage now. We ace the hon. lI.ini8tert' I would like to go in, to have a design and after that know from him as to what is the we are going to see whether a new humber of helicopters of the new unit is to be established and all these design. which he baa said just now, things. It is not possible to say any- that will be required for the three thing as to where we would have thel,l Services-Army, Navy and Air Force at this stag';!. --and wheth~r the Hindustan Aero- nautics Ltd. will be able to manufac- DR. VASANT KUMAR PANDlr. ture and meet all their needs. The second part of the question No. SHR! SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: We are 242, clause (a) is whether the Govern. at the stage of preparing a design and ment is examining new proposals tG atter we have a design ... meet the needs of the civilian secto:- for manufactUre of helicopters'! !:l MR. SPEAKER: Explain fully well thiS context I would like to know :-0 that the Member is satisfied. \. hether any news plans a.re Undl'l' SHRI sHlVRAJ V. PATIL: ... th~ consideration fOr the manufactur.p (.l ,lindustan A~rona.utics Company Ltd. helicopters for civilian needs. If !:-',' Nill manufacture the helicopters. This what are tho~e? ...:ompany would be able to meet all th~ SHRI SHIVHAJ V. PATIL; Sir. ','.- needs~ would :be able to manufacture the helicopters required by all our are already producing the hclicopte::--. forces. I equired for the civilian purpo:::;·.~ :\ow, we ;:.tre thinking of having ~t (Interruptions) l;elicopter WhICh will meet the nee(i' SHRI K. C. HALDER: How many ... ·! of our thn."c services. We are aireao," producing the helicopters for the L"i ;. SHRI SHIVRAJ V. pATIL: The hon. Jian purposes. We are concentrati!l~ Member wants to know whether we upon a new design for the milit~H ~ will be able to produce enough num- purposes. Of ce-urse. as the time pasS{\.~ ber of helicopters. The ansWer is: if modifications in the helicoptc)'s r-_'· ··Yes". The second part of the que5- ('}uired for civilian purposes also, we hon of the !lon. Member is: whether may do that. But we are not conce~l the helicopters will meet all the needs {rating on that. We are at the momer.: of oUr forces Or not? We are trying concentrating on the helicopters which to design a helicopter which will be :.lJ:e required by our armed forces. capable to cater to the demands of Air Force, Navy and the Army. a AN HON. :MEMBER: Question J\u. would be able to meet thc demands 243 may be taken up. of these forc4!s. SHRl XAVIER ARAKAL; The Gov- MR. SPEAKER: It has been trans- ernment is going to manufacture a ferred to the Ministry of Education newly designed helicopter in collabo- and Social Welfare. I will now ca:i ration with the foreign countries. Th~ the questions again. Question No. 230, Hindustan Aeronautics are going to Shri Virdhi Chander Jain-absent. put up new units in different parts of Question No. 234, Dr, Krupasindhu the country, in order to meet the Bhoi-absent. Question No. 237 Shri demands of the forces. The hon. H. N. Nanje Gowda, Shri K. P. Singh Member has also mentioned, that the Deo-absent. demand is so great. I want to know whether the nt-wly designed helicop- THE MI~ISTER OF STATE IN ter units will be manufactured in the '!"HE DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE f:xisting units or in the new units that AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- are to be set up. U a new unit is to TRONICS (sHRI C. P, N. SINGH): be set up for this purpose, I want to The RAe wanted the allocation of 8 know whether it will be in Kera1a. minutes per question. But what will 33 Ond AnnoerB AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Oral AliSWeTS 34 happen when We go through the entire The majority of officers in the Anned question list ~fore time? Forces retire at the age of 48-50 years. MR. SPEAKER: Here the question is absentism on the part of members. 2. The Government is fully alive to AN HON. MEMBER: Question No. the problem of resettlement and wel- 230 may be taken up. It is important. fare of the retired Armed Forces per- sonnel. Several measures have been MR. SPEAKER: All right. taken by both the Central and the ~$ 'Itt iI?(.;ff a\~ ~fQ"~f{q-T ~ State Governments in this regard. Some of the important measures al- ~-f~ readv taken by the Government and some others which are under conside- • 230. ~i ,r", -:q;J' ~ : ~ '7,:n ration, are given below:- mft ~ ~ ctft ii'1T Rl: rn (a) Employment (Cfl) ~~r~~ir.~~~ i~5::.t al'(C C{,mmanciant.\ mr cf.T m ~T ~q~ Cfil &fTTr ~ :n Para t.lil. tar), IO{;,', ~ ? Grl)Up tC' THE MINISTER OF STIITE IN THE Group '1>' MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) to (c). A Besides, the State Government. Statement is laid on the table Of the have also made reservations of posts iiouse. for ex-servicemen, which vary from State to state. Statement The ex-servicemen disabled in Approximately 70 per cent of the actiOn are accorded the highest prio- Junior Commissioned officers, Non- rity for civil employment. The de- Commissioned officers and Sepoys in pendents of ex-servicemen killed or ~he Indian Army retire from service severely disabled in action are given In the age group of 32 to 49 years. priority over other candidates in the Personnel. other than officers, in the matter of employment. Air Force retire at the age ot 39 to 41 years. However, they are eligible for extension of 6 vears to be followed (b) Self Employment by extensions ot" 3 years at a time till they attain the age of 55 years. Only Ex-servicemen are encouraged to 1hOse Airmen who do not attain the engage themselves in self-employment rank of Corporal are retired after 15 ventures. The 'following 'kinds of Tears' service. The sailors in the assistance is provided to the ex-ser- Navy retire at the age Of 50 years. vicemen in this field. 35 Ora' Answers DECEMBER 3, 1980 Oral AnlWera (1) Assistance in securing Agen- considering the question of enhancing cies of various Public and Private the retiring age in all 'the three ser- Sector Undertakings. vices by five years and, if sO, when are they going to announCe it? Oi) Resettlement on land SHRI SHIV RAJ V. PATIL: The (iii) Assistance for setting up Small army. navy and air force require ScaJe Industries. young persons, able-bodied persons, who would be able to stand the stress 1<:) Vocational Training and strain of the services. Keeping that in view, young pe<>ple go there and 1n order to suitably equip ex-ser- ,etire at a young age. At present vicemen fOr various civil jobs, voca- t here is no question under considera- tIOnal training is organised for them tion for enhancing the age Of retire- by the Government. ment for soldiers, sailors and airmen. «ci) On the Job Training MR SPEAKER: Sl1ri Ram Vilas Paswan The Government have approved a aicheme for providing 'On The Job SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA H~ 'rraining' to serviCe personnel during DER: Sir. you have allowed me ta the last year of their service. ask the fir:--t questlO!"1, r am entitled to two sUlJplementafle~. Scbemea under corutideraUon of the Govel'IlDleI:lt MR. SPEAKER: All right. I up- hold his right. I) ~storation oj Eco.Sustem SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- It is proposed to utilise the services DER: It is mentioned in -ttle state- ot ex-servicemen in the task of ecolo- ment: gical restoration. Schemes 'for consti- "However, they are elIgible for tuting task forces of ex-servicemen extension of 6 years to be ioJ:owed for taking up programmes Of affores- by eXtensions of 3 years at a tim.e tation, l'oil conservation and water- till they attain the age of 55 years." .. hed management in the hill areas are at present under consideration. Why not in the case of jawans? t 2) Peace Keeping Forces SHru SHIVRAJ V. PATlL: That is already there. l'f ~ thU:i~. t~at It is also proposed to recruit suit- certain officers and pN sons wdrkmg able ex-servicemen in the Peace in the ArmY, Navy or Air ForCe are Keeping Forces which the Central having good health and would be use- Government and the various State ful to the services, then extension can Governments are proposing to raise. be given. That is why we have men- tioned it. But we ar-e not considering 13) Lateral Induction in para-Military giving extension to all persons. That Forces is a different thing. The Government is alSo considering ~T "qJJ ~~ q~ : ~ ~ a prOposal to absorb retiring service ~ qrn ~ ctiT ~ personnel in the varioUs para.Military ifi MR. SPEAKER: They will give it (a) the total strength of lAS Officer. to you. He will lay it on the Table. in the country; SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: After their (b) the number of lAS Oftkcl"s who retirement, thousands of these young are on deputation with the public people are searching for jobs and are Sector Undertakings; not getting them. They have also no means of decent living after having (c) the number of lAS Officers in served the Army. Navy or Air Force. the Board of Directors in various In- Therefore, I would like to know whe- dustrial Sectors; and ther ftny special efforts are being made {d) what steps are being taken to by the Ministry to organise employ- minHruse the number of deputationist. ment for them sO that th-::y can secure from among-st the lAS Officers to d decent uving and also J'\:!nder useful varIOUS Public Sector Undertakings by "ervice'! replacing them with technically Quali- THE PRIME MINISTEH (SHRI- fied persons for better management of MAT! INDIRA GANDHI): My col- the UnIts? league has already replied to this THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE question. We have been deeply con- MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS cerned ab6ut this matter. and 'from (SHRI P. VENK,ATASUBBAlAH) ~ (a) the beginning We have been taking The total strength of lAS Officers in ~peeial interest. We have taken up the country is 3898 (as on 1-1-1980). this mattf'"r with the Planning Com- Of these 661 officers are at present on mission. \Ve have met the represen- deputation to the of tatives of ex-servicemen's associa- Government tions and others and many steps have India. oeen taken-I think these steps have (b) and (c). The nU'mber of lAS been made public-to help them get ~ers who are on deputation with employment. We have taken up the commercial and industrial public matter with the state Governments, enterprises of the Central Government with industry, with public sector units. is 33. We are planning to takp them in the Special Peace Keeping Force which is 18 out of these are holding posts ot being !'et up and alSo in special pro- Chief Executive and Functional ~rammes for environment etc. Many Directors. of them ]ivp in the hilly areas where (d) Under the existing policy, no such work is important. So, we are officers is generally allowed to be on going into this in great detail. If any deputation to a public enterprise for a hon. Member has any other sugges- total period of more than 2-3 years (2 tions, we ~hall be willing to look into years in the case of those holding post. 1t. in the scale of Rs. 2500-3000 or above (Interruptions,) •• and 3 years in the case of those holding lower posts). During this period he MR. SPEAKER : Nothing will go has to exercise an optiOn. between the 'ifl record. two alternatives of 0) resignation WRITTEN ANSWERS TO from Government service and penna- QUESTIONS nent absorption in the concerned pub- lic enterprise and (ii) reversion back Deputation of lAS OIJicers to Publk to the parent cadre. Only in a few Sector Undertakings cases. officers are given extension of ·234. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOY: deputation beyond the prescribed Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS period on consideration of public be pleased to lay a statement showing: interest. ---.. ------_. ------·-Not recorded. 39 W rltten A 1Uwers DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written Answer. SolaI' JI1lt. Solar photovoltaic modular develop- ed at Central Electronics Limited -237. SHRI H. N. NANJE GOWDA: under the Department of Science and SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: Technology's demonstration program. Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND me are currently being used in the TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: lighthouse beacon at Dwaraka Port for .!.p navigation, tor pumping water in (a) whether the Central Electronics .;~ solar distillation plant at Avania Limited has found out a new technique Village in Gujarat, for drinking water to make solar buts in the country; supply at Tejara village in Rajasthan for lighting in Choglamsar village i~ ( b) it 80, the details thereof and Ladakh and in a few demonstratioll whether such type of huts can be pumping systems. The programme provided with sufficient energy gene~ envisages scaling up the fabricatioft rated by direct conversion of the sun techniques for silicon solar cells and light into electricity; panels developing modules for appli- ( c) if so, the details thereot and cations sUCh as pumping of drmking whether solar electriCity so generated water, minor irrigation community will be cheaper as compared to elec- lighting, for educational radio and TV tricity generated by water and coal: sets, cathodic pI'o~tion of oil pipe- and Hnes and for use in communicatioft equipment in the remote areas. The (d) if so, when and where such solar principal efforts relate to reduction of :luts are likely to be constructed? costs and improved reliability. A THE PRIME MINISTEH (SHRI- major project costing about Rs. 12 MATI INDIRA GANDHI): (a) to (d). crores ever 5 years, including applica- Under the solar energy programme of tion of photovoltaic systems in rural the Department of Science and Tech- areas for a variety of purposes (with nology. the Central Electronics Limited emphasis on water pumping for drink~ (a pUblic sector undertaking under the ing and minor irrigation), has beelt Department) has developed photovol- drawn up. taie cells, and panels consisting of such In the meantime, a short-term pro- cells, for direct convers1on of solar gramme to be completed by 1981, for energy into electricity. Such panels fabrication and field demonstration of may be placed On roofs of buildings Solar photovoltaic pump sets of about and the electricity generated used to 25 KW aggregated capacity and other operate certain appliances such as fans units of 5 KW capacity is underway. and TV sets and for lighting. Such applications were shown fOr demons- ~T;r (iU ~tif~ ;nm ~'T tration purposes on two huts, one in the eEL premises and another at Pra- 2 ! o. ~.;{) iqrc, UCf 'tT«ti': rn gati Maidan, New Delhi; these were * referred to popularly no "Solar huts." ~ +R-ft ~m ~f'iliT it m ~ srfu- The cost of solar energy based elec- fam~m~ ~~arf(it tricity, so generated by photovoltaic 2 3~, 1 980 if; J;ffiT< tfcFicf stv.1 ~ panels, is at present not generally 5358 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ cheaper than electricity generated by it ttl water and coal; however in certain wn Cf) 'Z~ fifl: areas remote from the no~al conven- tional sources of power and where (Cfl) ~ ~ .m- qm f ~ electricity is needed in small unit sizes, fcmff it ~ ~ ~ ~ ~mTiT photovoltaie sources are nearing eco- iWTT ~ lit qqT ~I- ~ ~ ~ nomic competitiveness with conven- « tional so~es. 'lrof it ~ ~ ~; 41 Written AftS1Ders AGRAHAYANA 12. 1903 (SAKA) Written Anrwer. 42 (v) ZIf~~, 61 m-m ~ ~ (q) ~n;ft~~mif ~~t~f.; ~ 4If~fqfulttctf~~ritm~~ ~ fro'~ 8fiT \ifl1f~ ~ ~ (~) ~ ~ ~ ~ 1IT«f q-n:: t ~ ~ ~ ~ 'l~iiT itm~~it~~~ ~ lfh: tn" f:iR' 00 ~ ~. 'Qnfi'fGT ~ ~ ~ rt t ? ~ ir:q ~f~ 1lWl'trr -~t ;rnrrq;rr 'fr ~ ~If ~ U\1Q' ('11 tf)if;w Ti li ft ~~I ~) : (~) it (4f) ~"fin: cf.1 ~ Special .'ssistanee for Farmers of ~ ~ JlI""",,,,1 t f'fi '3f;rrr5 firm 197 {} Undeveloped District. 01 on.. ~ 1 9 7 7 it ~~~T~i Cf.T 'Srl'mlGT ~fC:l 2194. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will rnif;-~ ~~, ~~m :;ir;;:r the Minister of PLANNING be pleased if, '1'R ;nrt it ~ ~ ~ I j;; ~ gm to state; 1lR1 if ri ~ q-{ 1;;N~ q'"{ ~ w;;i(lT WT m- ~t ~ fiTfOfi (b) if so, whether the farmers ot ~~ ~mmqnrner.1~~, Keonjher district are also proposed to be provided with such grants? qtf~r.t Ii ~r~T ~fo:tcfil C1iT ~f~f" THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THlI 2 1 9 J. ~t ~"{l1l 1ff rtrt: ( ~ ) cp:rr ~ ~ ~ fCfi 7.t ;:ft";fT Allegations by All '[D.clia Colr Board ~ q I fCfiffl F1 ~ ~f'f'fiT cit cf~ Stall Union ctT ~ ~ tffiT "tfitq Q;£t (>;f.I'f(!" ~ 2195. SHRI E. BALANANDAN: Will ipf~~~~; ~ the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (if) ltfG ~, ffi ~« ~er if (a) whether it is a fact that serious ~ CflrT Cfd4 ctlil ~ ~ ~ ? allegations have been made by All India Coir Board Staff Union during ~li~ if ~~ (,,"f~ the financial years 1978-79 and 1979-80 mt' iir (' qtf«{) : ( Cfl) ~ fmif eft regarding embezzlement and misUSe of Government funds under the heads c.!fi;c: ~ ~i ~ I q,fCfife1H it ~ ~ "Exhibitions, Publicity, Establishment it ~ Wn ctT \3qR~fu ctT ~ ~ and other Charges" of the Coir Board <:ffi>ft ~ !ol +i Ifuld funi ~S" ;;@ ~ I has occurred; (b) whether action has been taken ~~qmi%~~ (v) to inquire into this and bring to book ~ t fCf1 :;ft;ft q I fCfi~ I'll f~ ~ the persons responsible; and ctT~~ ~<1lT ~ it (c) whether it has affected the rep\l- ~~, tat ion of this organisation? Written Answers DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written Answers 44 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The matter is under considera- MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI t ion of the Government. ClIARANJIT CHAN ANA): (a) and ( C) Draft rules for the Central Cadre (b). Allegations regarding misuse of whiCh include the question of quali- funds for publicity, participation in fications also are still under considera- exhibition etc. made by the All India tion, and in view of this question Coir Board Staff Union have been the does not arise. looked into and action on the prelimi- nary findings has hl'cn Hlltiated. , ,i) At the time of initial fonnatio" (c) No, Slr. of the proposed service, the cases of .-'ormatlon of Central Cadre of Trans- .ill the ofTicers/employees working lators!lIindi Officers .. gainst the posts likely to be inclUded HI t h{: Sen-ice will be considered. 2196. SHIH T. S. NEG!: Will the Minister of HOME Al"FAIRS be SUPP!y of Essential FOOd Articles to pleased to state: Central Police Personnel (a) whether it is a fact that for :':1!l7. SHIH T. R. SHAMA."fNA; eligibility to aPpear 1Il the Hindi Will t}l(' MinIster of HOME AFFAIRS Assistant Examination conducted by lJp pLeased to state: the UPSC in 1958, the minimum educa- (a) whether it has Come to the tiolla} qualification was B.A. with 1:('\1("(.' of Government that the Gov- Hindi as one of the subjects; .. ! nments of Tamil Nadu and West (b) whether Govprnmpnt ure form- Bengal are giving essential food arti- !fig a Central Cadre of Translators, cles at concessional rates to the PolicE' Hindi 01licers and HindI Assistants / Department Personnel; and Junior and Senior Hindi Translators of the various Ministries who are hkely ( b) whether the Central GO\'l rn- to be inductpd in the Centra} Cadre; !11cnt arc conSidering the proposal or .dving similar facilities to the Central (c) whether it is proposed to pres- Police Personnel? cribe a higher qualification for induc- tion in the Central Cadre if so, the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THH reasons therefor; and MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (d) whether Government propose to take appropriate steps to safeguard the (a) Yes, Sir. interests of those Hindi Assistantsl (b) No, Sir. The Central Police J:Iindi Translators, who are only Personnel are already allowed Gov- graduates? ernment contribution towards their ration eXPenses on a different pattel"J\. THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE llINlSTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Flow of F'OI'eipl MODe,. (SHat YOGENDRA MAKWANA): Ca) No, Sir. No such eXamination was 2198. SHRr R. L. BHATIA: SHRI ATAL BIHARI V Aj- conducted by the UniOn pUblic ServiCe PAYEE: Cotnm1ssion in 1958. In 1959 a special SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: examination was conducted by the U.P.S.C. for the D~tal Clerks, Will the Minister of HOYll in which DepartmentiJ. candidates AFFAliRS be pleaaed to state: with one year or more service could lte _lected tqr- ~tJaeDt to the post (a) whether Government's atte-;t~ .91 ,Hindi. ~staDta. The minimum has been drawn to the news i,t.em qualificatioD tor the Departmental captioned ',J"amaat getting fUnd:l from oandidates to appear in the eXami- West Asia; Sheikh' appearing·.in the a&tion was preseribed 8.1 B.A. with Tribune dated the 2nd. ~. Jl1Ddi as a ~eet. 1980; Written An.fWers AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Wr;t'f'H Answers (b) whether any investiption has their appeal for help for the rehabill- been made by Government into the tation of the victims of April, 1979 flow of t.his foreign money into India disturbances in J & ~ Valley. and it reaching the J &K State As regards fiow of foreign money Jammat-e-lsiami and such other into India, under section 6 of thl' bodies, whoSe activities are not cOndu- Foreign Contribution ~Regulation I cive to internal peace and hannony; Act. 197d. organisations with a defUlitf: and cultural, economic, educational reli~ glOUs or social programme are sen din, (c) if so, the outcome thereof and half yearly returns showing the the steps which Government propose amuunt of foreign contribution to take to check this clandestine flow received and the source and purposetJ of foreign money into India? for Whld1 su<.'h foreign contribution was reCt.'l\·ed and utilised. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Setting up of New cemeat Pla.uta ML'iISTRY OF HOME AFFAlRS tSHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): 2199. SHIH AMAHSINH V. RATHA- WA: Will the Mini~t('r of INDUSTRY (a) to I.e). The Government have SL'en be pleased to stat(': a reported ~tatement oi the Chief .MinistE~l· of Jammu and KashmIr on I a) whether Government arc conSl·· misuse of foreign funds received by denng to set up more cement plants in the State Jammat-e-Is1ami. The the country during the Sixth FIVe Year Jammat-e-lslami Central H.elief Com Plan to meet the demand of cement of mittee, Jammu and Kaslunir have the country; and reported that they received ( b) if so. the details of the new Rs. 86,592.00 as foreign donations plants? during the period from 6th July. 1979 to 26th February, 1980 for providing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN T~ relief to the fire victims of April 1979 MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI disturbances in J & K Valley. CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) Ye8. The donations were received Sir. Additional capacities have been through banking channels by the sanctioned for installation during the JEI Central Relief Committee Sixth FiVe Year Plan period. from the people of Saudi (b) The details are given in the Arabia, Qatar and UAE in response to statement attached hereWith. StatemeDt 81. No. ~ame oftht" Unit Location Capacity (in lakh tonne.) I. Cement Corporation oflndia Limited. · Seemuch (M .... J 4' OJ, 2. Do. Akaltara (M.P.) 4'0(, 3· Do. · Yerraguntla (A.P.) 4'OcJ 4. U. P. State Cement Corporation Limited Dalla/Chunar (U.P.) J6·80 5. J&K Minerals Ltd., Khrew UclK) !I'OIt 6. MIs. Century Cements • · Malhar (M.P.) 8'0(, .,. Damodar Cement at Slag Ltd. · Madhu Kunda (W.B.) !I'fK, 47 DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written A~er, 51. So. Name of the Unit Location Capacity (in lath to~) . ------~-~-~------8. Manglam CrUlent Ltd. Morak (Raj.) .'00 9. N.iflllada (;rIJII·nl1 Ltd. Jarrabad!~hgdalla J{)' 00 R,""tn .... giri (Guj./Mah.) )0. Krr.lia Ind.. lkv. Coqm. Pal'lg:1at (Kerala) 4'20 1 I. Raui CelUents Ltd. \·... 1:1, Orient P.t('t"f Mills Ltd, Adilah:!d Dt. {AP,) 9'00 :-;.If'ling.lfh (~1.P.) 4'00 J.. A.C,C. Ltd. Gagal (H.P.) 5. 60 ) 5. 'fexmaco Ltd.. Yerraguntla (A.P.) .4'00 ,G. It ly.n )lld \Vno 'rn ~till!J Limited Janjgir (M.P.) 4'00 17. C":Hl"'nt c: ,r,lor;ltion of India Limited Atlilabad (A.P,) 4'00 r8. Do. Tandur (A.P.) 10'00 19. Pany.ull Gt"Ill("nts Yadiki (A.P.) 4'00 20. K('soram C,,·!.t"nh Ltd. Ankircddipalli (A,P,) 4'00 al. Andhril Cc-nu·nt" . !'jadi Kudi ,:A.P.) 2'50 2:.1. L:trllen & 'fouhn' LId. Chandrapur \~fah.) 11'09 :Z:l Century Spg. & Mfg. G,. L'mitt'"d Do (~Iah.) 10'00 24-. Karn;ttaka Stale I. D C. Chittapur (Kar.) 4'00 ::15. Shrt"e Ct"ment Limi.ted Beawar (Rajasthan) 12'00 26. Mudi Rubht"r Vmited .. Bhatapura (M.P.) g.oo :27. Coromi.lndal Fertzll. Kalanlllla (A.P.) In'OO 28' Ind an Raynn Corpn. Ltd. Malkhed (Kar,) 5'.0 Slt"d Autl)oritv of Indi:l Limited .. ChilhatifRourkeia (M.P.JOrissa) 21'40 (v) 'Ffr ~~ ~ cti) f~lfrqd mr tJ1IT~, ~ 2 200. -tt U1f;rT~ ~1 : tflfr (~) ~G"f~ fR ~ if; ~ ~~q~~~~f1f; : ~itit~«if~f!{ti~ ~ I if ~ (lit (~) ~ f~r if ~'f.lfCl iliT4 it." mtr """q "il' .._. t-,,_;"~{(t ~) : (CF) ~, ~ I ftrtt ~ ~ ~ fif;rr ~ it." ~ ilTU~"it."mif~~~~ (fl) ~,{t! '" ~ l'ft (if ffi d~i'iij ..ffl ~ IftJT (tr) ~ ~ ~ffi' ~ ~ t, dFtm-* ~ I 49 Written An.rweT'S AGRAHAY ANA 12. 1902. (SAKA) Written An.noen SO Uit8daI recanJiDc approach to MBTP As part of maxi.miaing export- CompaDlea oriented production, exports would be excluded while computing "domi- 2.201. SHRl S. M. KRISHNA: Will nance" under the MRTP Act. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas- ed to state: ( c) A statement is attached. (a) whether his attention has been Statement drawn to the editorial 'Approach to Sc}ledule Of Industries in whose case MRTP Cost' appearing in the the facility of automatic growth is Tinancial Express', New .Delhi dated the 5th November, 80; allowed PART-A: (b) if so, how far Government have softened its approach to the Metallurgical Industries: larger private sector undertakings to ( 1) Ferro Alloys allow an automatic annual increase (2) Steel Castings and forgings ot 5 per cent in the manufacturing capacity of 34 selected industries and (3) Special steels to exclude the export performance of (4) Non-ferrous metals and their an MRTP Co. from the MRTP Act's alloys criteria of market dominance; and 2. Boilers and steam generating (c) which are these 34 industries? plants. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 3. Prime movers (other than elec- THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY trical generators): (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (1) Industrial turbines (a) Yes, Sir. (2) Internal combustion enginel. (b) Government has not softened 4. Electrical equipment: lts approach to larger private sector undertakings. Government's objec- (1) Equipment for transmission tive, however, continues to be the and distribution of electricity. optimum utilisation of capacity, and (2) Electrical motors the maximisation of production, with- in the framework of Government's (3) Electrical furnaces 8ocio-economic policies. (4) X-ray equipment (5) Electronic components and Towards this objective, Govern- equipment. ment have announced that a list of 34 5, Transportation: industries (among which are included industries which are of core, basic ( 1 ) Mechnised sailini vessela and strategic importance to the upto 1000 DWT national economy or are linked there- (2) Ship ancillaries with or are export-oriented) would be permitted automatic growth at (3) Commercial vehicles. the rate of 5 per cent per annum limited to 25 per cent in a five year 6. Industrial Machinery. period. Dominant companies would 7 Machine Tools, Jigs, Fixturea, not, however, automatically be able To~ls and Die~ of Specialised Types. to avail of this facility. Their cases will be considered under a stream- 8. Agricultural machineryjTracton lined procedure, under the applicable and power tillers. legislations, i.e., MRTP Act and I (D&R) Act. 9. Earthmoving machinery. 51 Written A nBweTs DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AnsWers 10. Industrial instruments: indicat- 19. Cement Products: ing, recording and regulating devices (1) Portland cement for pressure, temperature, rate at flow, weights, levels and the like (2) Asbestos cement, 11. Scientific instruments. PART-B; In addition to industries listecl in 121 Nitrogenous and Phosphatic Part A above. the following industries Fertilisers falling under Inorganic to the extent they are not already fertilisC'}'s under . I 8 FertiITsers' in the included in Part A above:- First Schedule to the IDR Act, 1951. 1. Automobile ancillaries 13. Chemicals (other than Fertills- 2. Castings and closed die forging:: ('fs): 3. Tractors 4. Commercial vehicles ( 1) Inorganie heavy chemicals (2) Organic hC'avy chemicals 5 Conveying equipment 6. Die~el engines. pumps (3) Fine Chemicals, including photographic chemicals 7. Cranes (4) Synthetic resins and plastics 8. Earthmoving, mining and md:lIlurgkal equipment (5) Synthetic rubbers 9. Hydraulic equipment (6) Man-made fibres 10. Industrial machinery, includ- (7) Indu!itrial explosives ing chemical plant and machiner:-" (8) Insecticides, fungicides, wc(·di- 11. Machine tools cides and the like. I:!. Textile machines (9) Synthetic detergents 13. Power transmission and dis- (10) 'Miscellaneous chemicals (fur tribution equipment (other than industrial use only). cables and wires) 14. Drugs and Pharmaceuticals: 14. Power transformers (a) Drug intermediates from the 15. Switchgears. basic stage for production of high technology bulk drugs; and [NOTE: The schedule of industries follows generally the First Scbedule (b) High technology bulk drUgs to the !ndustries (Development and from basic stage and formulation Regulation) Act, 1951. Items of based thereon with an overall ratio manufacture reserved for the publiC of bulk drug consumption (from sector under Schedule 'A' to the own manufacture) to formulation Industrial Policy Resolution, 1158 from all sources of 1: 5. are excluded for the facility of auto- matic growth.] 15. Paper and pulp including paper products. SettiIlI' up 01 l.Dda*iea ill U.P.... Btbar 16. Automobile Tyres and Tubes. 2202,. SHRt RAM SNGH SHU- 17. Plate Glass YA: WIll the Minister of INDUSTRy be pleased to state: 18. Ceramics: (a) whether the Central GoVeI1l- ment have reeelve4 any applicatioll (1) Refractories for setting up industriea· in' die beck- (2) 'i~e ~ brlcb-acldic, ward distridS Of U.P. and BIhar dUl'- bade neutral. ina 1879-80; 53 WTitttm Answers AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) W"tt~ll Ans11.'f"rs 5 .. (b) if SO the number thereof and are taking steps to release adequate the names of the industries proposed funds for payment of wages, bonus to be set up; etc. to the workers of Indian Paper PulP: and (c) whether licences and the let- ters of intent have been issued to the (f) if SO. the natufe of steps taken applicants in this regard; and thereof? (d) if so. the broad outlines there- THE MIN!STER OF' STATEI:r-. of? THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA) : THE MIN!STER OF STATE IN ( a) to (c) The report of the expert THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY group ha::- just heen received, and i~ (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): l~ing studied. (a) and (b)' During the year 1979-80. ( d) Doe!' not arise. nine applications for grant of indus- trial licences were received for set- \e) and (f). Arrangements have ting. up industries in the backward been made for payment of lay-of! districts of U.P. and Bihar. These compensation to the emploYE'es of application!, were for the manufac- Indian Paper Pulp company. ture of Electronic Watches. Pulp. He \\" fltWg & Printing Paper. ERW Guidlines to State,.) Promulgation of Ordinances (>n Detention ~. ,-cl r; .lb~.-, Hydrogenated Oils and Vanaspati. 2205. PROF. MADHU DANDA- VATE: Will the Minister of HOME «.') and (d) All the nine applica- tion:.: 1!~Ve since been disposed 'Jf. AFFA!RS bE:' pleased to state: Five applications have been approv- (a) whether Lilly guidelines have ed and Letters of Intent issued. The been issued to the states to promul- remaining four applications have gate ordinances providing for deten- been either rejected or closed. tion for a definite period; and (b) if so, the reasons thereof? Take over 0/ Indian Paper Pulp Co" West Bengal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 2204. SHRI M. ISMA!L: Will the (SHR! YOGENDRA MAKWANA): Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (a) No, Sir. However, a Central to state: Ordinance, viz. the National security Ordinance, 1980, providing tor pre- (a) whether the expert appointed ventive detention in certain cases, ia by Government to examine the ques- already in force in all States (except i.ion of "Take over of Indian Paper J Be: K). Pulp Co., West Bengal" has submit- 'ed its recommendatiOns; (b) Does not arise. (b) if so, the salient points of the recommendations; Amendment to Payment of Gratalty Act, 197% • (C) action taken by Government en the recommendations; 2206. SHRI SUBODH SEN: Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (d) if answer to part (a) is in the negative, how long it will taken for (a) whether representation h .. the expert committee to submit its been received from West Bengal Tea :recommendations; Employees' Association, JalpaJguri (e) whether pending subm.iuion dated the 27th July 1980 tor amend- .1 the recommendation, Government ment of Payment 'ot Gratuity Act. 55 Written Answers DIDI2MBER 3, 1980 Written An.rwer. 1972 in order to cover those emplo- yees under the Act whose income iI beyond B.s. 1000 /_ in view of the 2207. SHRI D. S. A. SIVAPRAKA- Minister reduction of purchasing power Of the SAM: Will the of I..ABOUR rupee; and be pleased to state: What are the research on occupa- (b) the steps propoSed to be taken by Government on this demand? tional diseases made by the l4lnistrY of LaboUr during the last two years? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTR.Y OF LABOUR (SHRt p. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE VENKATA REDDY): (a) Yes. Sir. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHlU P. VENKATA REDDY): A statement (b) Various proposals for amend- listing the studies on work environ· ment of the Gratuity Act. 1972 ment and occupational diseases car- including amendment of the salary ried out by the Central Labour !nsti- limit are under consideration. The tute, Bombay and Regional Labour Huggestion of the Association will be Institutes under the Directorate given consideration while taking General, Factory Advice Service' and decisions on the proposals. Labour Institutes is attached. Wriffeft AftI1DeN AGRAHAYANA 12, 1102 (SAKA) Writtm AftStDfl'I 58 I I 1 1 1 1 1 i 1 1 { t j ~ I 1... fI)...• e z S9 Written AmweTB D~ER 3.1980 Written AnsWers 60 . 1 ~ J. j, 1 j I !I 1 j 1 ! f i 1 l 1I I1 j 1 1 f 1 1 1 I., t 1 t Ii t I ~I Wr,tten Answers AGRAHAYANA 12t 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 62 ,,) '{fII ~f1trf.t:,1 i~nw, .let ~ Rotation of Oftkers Of 0.8.8. Grade I workina' In Min~ of Health and ~ f;riU tfllT 1f.,,~t '{1~ its attaehed otIleee "),,,T l{) if -lr ~) 11 itf3RT (a) whether Government have (c) the details of the action GoVP.rIl- drawn a houain. scheme tor the police ment have taken against the culprit. personnel; who are responsible tor loa of llv. (b) if 80, the outlines therPOf; and and properties at the Scbeduled (e) the extent of ftnancial assist- Castes, District-wise? ance provided during the current THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'IHE Anancial year to each State undt:r MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS the scheme? (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH:t; ( a) to (c). The information is called MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS from the State Government of Tamil (SHUI YOGENDRA MAKWAl"A): Nadu, and will be laid on the Table (a) and (h) The Government of the House on receipt thereof. at India introduced a Police Housing Scheme with effect from ~~l -i ftti l'Uq-Cft~"'T qTlt lfi'(ifT 1956-57 to provide financial assist~ 2212. "'" "tlGT~ fr:~ ~1llq- ance to the State Governments for the construction of accommodation ~ 'r~ if.:;{r ~ ~ ~ vrr m fCfi for their Police personnel. The (1f) '.fln ~ ~ ~ ~ Scheme was intended to provide 100 ~~ it ~ ~'tlr ~ ~ t~ per cent family a~commodatior to upper subordinates ( non-gazcttc1 ) ~m'1A4 if,IQ~"1liT it ~ CFf':f1 *" and 14 per Cl'nt family accommo 1 c QI • :-..! =1 ~ j i i, ~1 ..- I Xl ... I ,.,. .~ ! ... , - .j .. ·•I - t I .... '" Ii ~ '-=..... i :} ,.. ~ ~ . 1 I .,. ·i >:;; 4 -< i ~ ., - ll'') c.. 1 g 1 ~~ I '-' .., 1 t i i. 1 1 .I 1 t II j 1 J Written AftS1Ders AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAiCA) Written AtUtDeft StatelDeat-lI NU.MBER OF EMPLOYEES PROMOTlID 1~ SCiSTjOTHERS GROUP-WISE Group B Group C Group D Year SC--- S1' Othcn\ SG ST Olhcrs S(.; ST Others "~"------~--~ ------¥- .. -~---- 1973 liB 56 :l 776 29 91l 1974 90 39 3 9:)3 7lJ 171 '975 203 25 7 17 78 184 1976 3 ISu 11 I lUll 35 78 1977. uG 72 :l-f. 5-15 39 65 '9iH 3 2Bo 107 1100 4H llOO 4979 72 19:1 -\ IHIG 4t5 811 1980 239 19B 1O-t:~ 28 68 ------ :\OT£ : The 11 um !JCl' ,.f erapl .. yces prolllulcd lJclonging to S(;!ST drP"lUis upon the mUIlOer within the consid("ration/eligibilily zon<'. Such (·mployet·s art'. however (b) if SO, what is the percentage of Statemeat"-JIJ shares held by Financing Institutions; TI)~'ll ~.). crn?~uy,~~3 of gf luI).. .. ' i-;e as on (C) the names of the promoters; I~IO~19Bv in HH£L firuch}s and Group Total :\0. { f S(; ST (d) whether the Project is to be ('mployec taken up t.:uring this current financial -.. ----" -.-' year? A 1,:1) Hb 7 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ii 1,031 25 MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) A C 3,z8o I,Oj7 H letter of intent has been granted to Mis. Tamil Nadu Newsprint D 6 2"P9 7 7 34 & Papers Ltd. for setting up a TOTAL 13,(123 1,935 5° new undertaking for the manu- facture of newsprint and writing Ie printing paper in Salem District, Tamil Nadu. Exact location is yet to be Settinc up 01 a Newsprint Unit at decided. Pugaluar, Karur (b) The percentage of shares to be 2216. SHRI S. A. DORAI SEBAS- held by the financial institutions has TIAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY not yet been decided. be pleased to state: (c) The Government of Tamil Nadu is the promoter of the project, (a) whether the newsprint man".l- facturing unit in the joint sector is to (d) The implementation of the pro... be started at Pugaluar in Karur cons- ject will be taken up as soon as the tituency in Tamil Nadu with a cost of total finances required for the project Rs. 1M crares; are mobilised. Written AnsWer, ...... Northa-pl cement plant in North Bengal appears 2217. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the to be limited. A list of agro-based small seale industries suggested in Ilinilter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: the Industrial Potential Surveys for establishment in the districts of North (a) number ot industries, big, me- Bengal is attached. dium and small in North Bengal, total Statement capHal inv~sted and the number of men working there, with names and The number of Small Industries location in details; Development Organisation (SIDO) (b) any ind ustry lYing closed, facts units registered with the West Bengal in details; Directorate of Industries in the five North Bengal districts as on 31-12- (c) whether there is any scope of 1979 was as follows: agro-based industries in North BE:n- aa1 like paddy husk based cement Cooch Behar 822 factory; and Darjeeling 1608 (d) if so, steps taken on that? West Dinajpur 1330 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Ja1paiguri 1635 MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI P. A. SANGMA): (0) The requisite MaIda 1408 information is given in the attached statement. Unit-wise details of investment and employment arc not received regu- (b) Information regarding closed larly. The district-wise and industry- units in North Bengal is not main- wh:e position about the registered SST tained in this Ministry. units and details of employment a! (c) and (d) The SCOPe of a com- revealed by the 1972 SST census are mercially viable paddy husk based given in the annexure. 73 Written An.swers AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answer. 74 75 Written Answer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written Answers LIM. of prospective llJl'o-based indUS- V. WEST DINAJPUR tries lcleDtUle4 In the lDdustrial 1. Rice bran oil. Potential Survey 2. Card-board from jute sticks. 1. COOCH BEHAR 3. Poultry & dairy industry, 1. Industries based on tobacco. setting up of cigarette industry ill 2. Rope from jute waste. North Bengal 3. Tannery. 2218 SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: Will 4. Rice Mill. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 5. Suw Mill. (<.l) whether Government have pro- n. DAfUi~ELING po:-,e:d to establish a cigarette indus- try 1:It Coach-Behar of North Bengal 1. Canning & Preservation-fruIt;:: District; & vcgetabh'~. (b) what will be the total cost of 2. Corn flakes. thc projcct and by what time it will 3. Fruit juice powder. he completed; and 4. Dehydratpd pututo chips. «') IO~'3tion of the project and the ~!\'enue (If employment to the local 5. Gingl'r & gingl'f products. people? 6. Pap~lin & pectin from raw THE MINISTER OF STATE IN papain. rHE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): 7. CatTejne from tea wastes. ( a) There is no proposal before the 8. Photo-chemical industries. Government of India for the estab- lishment of a cigarette industry in 9. Bri1'tles dressing & brush mak- Coach-Behar of North Bengal District. Ing. (b) and (c). Do not arise in view ]0. Splints & veneers. of the reply to (a) above. 11. Hardboard from saw dust. t{3ttp' iU\i\'1l'\: t1rl'~~ itit ~~ 12. Wood wool. ~QfT Cf)"T "'11fif~ 13. Saw Mill & packing cases. 2:! 19. q) fiij~('iiqM ~ : Cfltf III. JALPAIGURI 'lIf 1iair ~ ~ Gi-;r ~ ~ Ai : 1. Straw boards. 2. Ginger products. (cti) CfltT 1979-80 it ~. ~T 3. Rope & twine *t~l*~~~ f{ f. Oxelic acid from saw dust. il'Ffit~;?t~rmr~~ S. Tannery. ~;'4n: 6. Garlic powder. ((I) ~ ~;?t ~ ~ ~ oqfif~T ~ IV. MALDA i (I\jf411 < ifl,. mrR * ~ iIftt 'li lii~ ifi1lf t ~R lJR ~, 1. Mango processing. mdffi",,~tfl ~ ~ t ? 2. Com flakes. whIt~-t ~ ~i ~. Mini rice mill ... if (.n '"0 .. Modernisation of hullers. .. ~) : (~) -iT, tt I 77 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Written AnsweTS 78 (.) ~ vTlfrvr ~ ifml- (b) if so, the extent of rise in price allowed; and WJfII{, fqf~ ~l ~ m~ ~ m- IJpf ~§inTm 'liTli".t:l{, ~~ it ~ (c) the steps to ensure availability of paper? ifiTti~ 'fTf.f ctiT ~ 'fiT (c) if so, the details of the recovery Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe made in the case and who is the head families also. of the investigating team; and ci.,..);nm (~~) -i ~.,,,," q"( (d) the efforts made to trace out 5ff~f.lT.j W1i ,t ~~ the robbery by the area police and the Crime Branch of the Police? 2225. "r1f~ "".q ""'T : ~ mF-l~ THE MINISTER OF S1'ATE IN :i~ ~ areFr if.t ~ q'T rn ~ : THE MlNlSTRY OF HOME AF- FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- (Cfi) lFn ~ (d) The Deputy Commissioner of ( IT) CftfT ~ ;r:q ~ fifi ~ ~ Police and the Additional Commis- sioner of Police visited the spot imme- Diael GeaentiDC s.s from East COmmittees have been held bY him E~ Couritries" and his State Minilter; and 2226. SHRI N. K. SHEJWALKAR: (b) whether Government propose Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be to lay on the Table the proceed.i{lgs of pleased to state: the meetings and seminars hele!" since (a) whether manufacturers ot the the advent of neW Government? indigenous power generating sets THE MINISTER OF STATE IN have complained to the Ministry that THE MIN1STRY OF HOME AFFAIRS East European Countries had been (SHRI YOGE!\"'DRA MAKWANA): dumping diesel generating sets in (a) 0) Tribal Conferences - 3 India and have been selling them at a very high price which has nO rele- (ii) state meeting -1 vance to the cost of manufacture; (iii) Meetings of the (b) If so, whether Government have Standing Committees - 2 exam~ned the matter in detail; In addition to the above, matters of Tribal Development were also dis- (c) if so, what percentage of profit has now been made by the foreign cussed in the meetings ot the Southern Zonal Council held at Trivandrum on suppliers vis-a-vis COst of the same set being produced in India; and 27th September, 1980, Western Zonal Council held at Bombay on 10th (d) what steps are proposed to be November, 1980 and in the Regional taken to help Indian manufacturers to Conference of Ministers of Southern have their proper share for supply of States held at Trivandrum on 3rd and their product to the Nation's indus- 4th November, 1980. trial growth? (b) There is no such proposal. THE MI!'-I"lSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Guidelines followed in finaJisatioB of (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): Sixth Plan of Andaman and Nicobar (a) to (c). No, Sir. The indigenous Islands manufacturers of alternators required 2228. SHRI Mfu~ORANJAN BHAK- for fitment in diesel generating sets T A: Will the Minister of PLANNING had represented that import of diesel be pleased to state: generating sets should not be allowed, but it is incorreCt to say that in their (a) what are the criteria and guide- representation they had stated that lines of the Planning Commission for the East European countries had been finalisation of the Sixth Five Year dumping them in India and selling Plan for the Union Territory of them at a very high prices. Andaman and Nicobar Islands and other Union Territories; (d) The indigenous manufacturers (b) whether these guidelines were are being given due assistance, such followed while finalising the Sixth as permission of import of raw mate- Five Year Plan for Andaman and rials, components, machinery and also Nicobar Islands; foreign collaboration. (c) whether it is a fact that a blanket cut of 25 per cent has been Tribal and Meetings Jielcl Coiaterenees imposed on the plans of Andaman 2227. SHRl BHEEKHABHAI: Will and Nicobar Island by the Planning the- Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Commission; pleased to state: (d) whether Government have re- (a) how many Tribal Conf~~n~es, ceived any rePresentation for sympa- State meeiings, meetings of standing thetic consideration of the plan pro- 33 Written An8wers DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AnSWeT& ,cammes for overall development of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands "" ;i milf ri ~ Ii,,) ( tir "'0) considering its backwardness and re- 1itR: "(it) : ('f.) q: ~ mer ~ moteness; and ii~tl~.I~ir. ~ (e) if so, what action has been ~T ii'f'1q~;l ~fu';f, 'ti~ taken? it ~ ~ '~. ~ ~t THE MINISTER OF STATE l~ nfr ...., if.T -port LieeD.Ce to Small Scale Matcb IDdMtry ( .. ) ~ ~ \11 ~r~ ~ fifi ~ 5RiT"( cf.T~l~~~~~m ~ ~ 2231. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: qf(ollqfq~q iit.4i:qlfnir cit ~ ~ Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: ~ ~;~ ( if) 'ltR ~r, ff) ~ W stew: if.T (a) the details of changed circum- ~T ~ f~ ~in: 'l7T stances in which Government are rn it sanctioning an import licence to small ~,~t m 'llT ~~fCf ~ ? scale match industry in Sivukasi for bringing in an atomic card-board match box making machine in viola- '.tlT q~~~ q ~ tia~ (~T qro tion of the assurance given on the ~ ~.C: ~fl ~ ~ Floor of Lok Sabha to Starred Ques- ); (<:fi) ( ) : dml- tion No. 658 on 23rd July. 1980 re- m tq"fr:r maf~ iT ~ff, gar!iing import of machin~ for manu- tq~R'T ~r;r: rr.m.r-f~utlf~ er.r J.T~tft facture of card-board match boxes: and it +rr~ ~ fm qmrr~ fclcm: q~ m~ q;~~ ~ ~-;;n: ~ ~~ em:ft (b) whether it has been ensured !:ff~ ef.r ~CfP'H ~ I l1n:r::ft that such a machine, though smaller ~ ~ m~f;:p:t+r in ~ize. is not being manufactured mt:r it: " fi1rr. it within the country,? ;tnU'l mU (~) ;m ~~~~~~~ fctim ctft mR: ~ it, ~ ~ it 2233. SHRl HARINATHA MISRA:. ~ ~ m if, ~ \4,,,"11114' Will the Minister of LABOUR :t>e pleased to state: wU4Iftl4i(Oj ~ ~ if ~ «mfr- ~ mr~~mm:it (a) whether it is a fact that the phenomenon of industrial sickness .... ,q.,.. ~ If t ; both in large and small industry has Written Amwera ~2R 3~ 1980 8S ~n on the increase during the last THE MINlS'J'ER OF STATE IN few ,.ear. to the detriment of THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- worker.; and FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAX- WANA): (a) According to infOt- (b) whether Government propose the mation released by the State to create an Insurance Fund with a Government of Jammu and Kashmir view to safeguarding the interests the Chief Minister of Jammu and of workers thrown out of job in case Kashmir had said that the country of lay off, clOSure or liquidation of the Units? could neVer move ahead unless the cancer of communalism was nipped in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the bUd and a Ii!:! (! :."...... lr and MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRl P. protection assured to minoti~i~. He VENKATA REDDY): (a) the number had added that the Central Govern- Of Units enjoying cash credit limit of ment had a special responsibility iD Rs. 1 crore and above reported as this regard and they should act to sick by the Reserve Bank of India curb communalism with heavy hand. went up from 306 in March, 1978 to 345 in June, 1979. Information re- (b) Government are conscious of garding the incidenCe of sickness the need for the maintenanCe C1i com- among other industrial Units is not munal peace and harmony. and ade- available. quate guidelines On the subject have (b) There was an item for discus- already been given to the State Gov- sion in the National Labour Con- ernments from time to time. The ference Which was scheduled to be Government have made known their held on 23rd and 24th October, 1980 to determbation to deal sternly. prom- consider the constitution of a fund ptly and effectively with any situation for assistance to workers in the event that will create a law and order of the closure of an undertaking on problem anywhere. account of sickness, which if neces- sary may be utilised for keeping the ~ ~ qct~)t( ~r :t. .)f~ industrial u:lit running. The item smt could not be discussed dUe to post- ~ * f~'q tf.~T ponement of the Conference. 2235. J;{t ~!~ f~ : ilm lltlPn J{~1 ~ ~ ctft ~ rn statement by Chief Minister of J&K fcfi: on Communal ViolenCe (cti) ~~ ~ iF ~ ~~ 2234. SHRI JYOTI&"10Y BOSU: ~ti)f1(Gfi f~ ~ SHRI NITYANANDA it it m m :M:ISRA: mlf ~ fq'qI(lmt{~; ~ SHRI CHlRANJI LAL SHARMA: (~) tflIT ~ ~ it ~ Will the Minister at HOME ~ it futt ~ ~ ~,~, ~, ftFJ ~, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY (SliRI ~ ~ ~ ~ OF LABOUR P. N'*'<,ii, it; VENKATA REDDY): (a) Yee, Sir. ~ f(414(1"" fCRf it ~ q-ref ~ I (b) The matter was brought to ~ m-r f;,~ f1~ ctT iATli the notice of the Government of West Bengal which beina the appropriate- ~ ~~ lft~~ Go\~ernment under the Industrial Disputes Act, 1947 is principillly concerned with the subject matter. ~ mlftrr;r ~, 1978 The State Government, who had it, ~ itti ~ furl em ~ ~ requested the Union Ministry of Industry to take over the Unit ~'n:~rn ~f.~m ~ have now bt>cn informed by the ~ ~ fr.rq; !itlWft cfiT~·;ftf~ "fiT Ministry of Industry that the cir· ~ ~ ~ fr11T, inRT JA'T"lfrrr ~ .~- cumstanccs do not justify the take over of the Unit under Industries ~ ~ Sl.ft Gft 0 fl)((:HPi~ c-. Lock-Out in Hindustan Pilkington Glass Works Ltd., Asansol (b) if 50, what are the main con- clusions that have emerged from the 2236. SHRI SAMAR MUKHER- assessment? JEE: "'ill the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (a) whether he has received memo- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE randa dated the 3rd June, 1980 and MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. the 11th July, 1980 sent by the CITU, VENKATA REDDY): (a) and (b) AITUC and INTUC unions jointly The Inter-State Migrant Workmen protesting against the lock-out in (Regulation O'f EmploYll"lF-nt and Con- Hindustan Pilkington Glass Works ditions of Service) Act and the Cen- Ltd. at Asansol rendering 1800 em- tral Rules framed thereunder, came- ployees jobless; and into force with effect from 2nd October, 1980. It is, therefore, too (b) if so, the steps taken by Gov- early to attempt any assessment, of ernment in this regard? the Act/Rules, at this stage. Written Answer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written A7l$wer.t ''''' cl~ r.,,), pt-rmr ~ (11") ~~ (ff) ~ ~ it ~ rn I'm' ""'" ...~Ift 1fi'fi1n ~ ctr ~ ~ en: ~ ~~~mt lfiT R'f;nm afiA; ttn' I 2233. "') W~;f 1Ift"tttlff 1fTfi1n : "flit T.Wf "it lit ~ tT !i'll rn (T-) ;ftt:rrq 1TU f~ ctt ~ r..! it.~ ~ ties to the farm labour/agricultural eaoh State. These progran$nes in- labour in the States like Kerala and clude the Hill Areas and Tribal Karnataka especially working in Areas Development Programmes, the plantations; and Drought Prone Area Programme, the Desert Area Development Programme (b) wbether any conerete stePs are and schemes for concessional finance under way to create an incentive and investment subsidy fOr Indus- oriented labour in the country? trially Backward AreaS. Certain THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE other schemes of rural development MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. directed towards improving the con- VENKATA REDDY): (a) Pre- ditions Of target groups like Small sumably, the thrust of the Question Farmers and Agricultural Labourers is on health insuranCe facilities being also tend to benefit backward areas. provided to plantation labour. The For special programmes of develop- Plantation Labour Act, 1951 adminis- ment for the backward areas, special tered through State Govtrnments Central Assistance is being provided provides for health and medical to augment the State's own effort in facilittes to plantation workers and theSe directions. their families. In addition some of the "arious Commodity Boards con- The resource transfers, as a device, cerned with the Plantation Industry, to correct regional imbalances at the have provided funds for the construc- State level have been built into the tion O'f hospitals. formula for the distribution of Cen- tral assistance lOr the State Plans. In (b) Existing incentive Schemes in- the Gadgil Formula. 10 per cent of clude payment on piece rates, bonus Central assistance was set apart for linked to production/productivity. distribution of Stales whose per etc. capita was below the national Per Capita Income of Each State average. It is now prOposed to raise the percentage of Central assistance 2242. SHRI JITE~DRA PRASAD: So distributed to 20 per cent of the Will the Minister 0'[ PLANNING be total. In allocating the 10 per cent pleased to state: of the as.,istance for speCial problem, under the Gadgil Formula, special (a) the per capita income of each weightage is given to the backward State as on 31st March. 1970 and 31st States. It is also proposed to provide March, 1980. separately; and additional market borrowing during Sixth Plan periOd to such States (b) the steps proposed to be taken to raise the income of people of the whose per capita income is below the Stcttes having comparatively lower national average. per capita income? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Statesneat THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Net Stat,.. Dom""'tic Pr.,duct at Factor Cost (per Capita). 1970-71 The estimates of per capita income (at current prices) of different states prepared by the Central statistical Organisation on a State Ra. comparable basis for the year 1970- 71 are giVen in the enclosed state- ment. Similar eStimates for the year I. Andhra Pradesh 586 ending 31st March, 1980 are not available. 2. t\lsam 570 3· BJlar 418 Cb) In the development plans, certain sPecial programmes are pro- 4· Gujarat. 845 vided according to the conditions in ,95 ,~8,1B8O ,------(c) whether it is a fact that Madhya State Rs. Pradesh is allotted quota of cement less than the quota thereof allotted to a smaller State like Kerala 5. Haryana w heT'eas the area Of Kerala is less than the area of Bastar District .in 6. 11im<'lcai Pradnh (i;o MadhYa Pradesh; 7· J;,u n 0111 & Kashlllir 557 Madhy.l Pratk:;.h 4n~) JO. (e) whether the Ceiltral Govern- mE-nt will consider allotting additional II. l'v[,lhar;hhlr.l nil quota of cement to thoSe backward States where works are in l'rogress 12. M,\.lipur 'loa under the Adivasi sub-plan? 13· M"'g'U\.\yd. (;H THE Mli\ISTER OF STATE IN 14· !\!,\g.da.J1CI :JoB THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY 15· Ori"s.\ :)4 1 (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) T!le States are given allocations J6. l'wlj.d) I· .It; every quarter on the norms of past consumption and overa 11 availability 17· Rajasth.\lI 6.29 of cement. 18. Tamil ~,~du 61(; (b) A statement is attached. J9· Tripur.l !)fiJ (c) Allocation of cement to the State is made on the norms of past con- 2tl. UI tar rra Allotment to Madhya Pradesh cement (d) Since the overall availability vis-a-vis Kerala of cement in the country is less than the demand, it is not possible as yet 2243. SHRI DILEEP SINGH to meet the requirements of the BliU1UA: Will the Minister of States in full. Enhanced allocations INDUSTRY be pleased to state: to the states will be 'pos~ible as soon as availability position improves for which every effOrt is being made. (a) the basis on which quarterly quota of ce~n.ant is prescribed by the (e) Requests from State Govern- Central Government for each state: ment's for additional allocations to meet urgent requirements are con- (b) State-wise quarterly quota of sidered sympathetically and addi- cement allotted by the Central Gov- tional allocations are made to the ernment in 1980; extent possible. 97 Written Answers AGRAHAY ANA 12, 1901 (SAKA) to Questionl 9~ Statemeat (in Cooo tOJUles) ------~ Sl.~n. Region/State Allocation of Ct"m<-lll duriJlg 1980· ----..--.------...---..- Gr. 1 Gr. II Gr.llI Jar.-March A pril-Junt' Jul)-Scp. -. XORTHERX REGIOX ------.--- - J. Haryana 159. 1 q .... 6 150. 1 2. R?jasthan 153. 1 123.0 130 .2 3· V tlar Pradt-sh 43i .f) ... 37. 6 -459.7 .... Him;:>cha I Prat:e,h 26.7 :26 .... ~J7 •• 5· Janunll & Kashmir 3~·6 49.6 ...8.6 6. Punjab Z38.9 222.0 2:23.0 7· Challdigarh 17.6 22.0 22.0 8 ... Delhi Iii .:2 123. :2 147.4- SOCTHERX RECIO:\" 9· Andhra Pr<:ldt·,h 33f)·6 404. 6 447.8 to. Tami! Xadu 360 .5 ·P7·1 373·9 II. K~.rnataka 264. 2 :z6 .0 229·1 L!. Krrala 200·9 329·2 21 4.3 1 3. Pondiclwrry 11.0 11.0 I 1.0 J4· .\ndaman & :\"ichobar :i· :3 s·n 5. 0 1). Laccadiw<" 1.9 1·9 1·9 WESTERX Rr;C[OX t6. Gujarat 39 1 • 0 • 367 .~l 376 .5 17· ~btlhya Plad('~h IGB·4 • 18G.~ 18G ... IS. ~laharashtra 5(>0·6 • 52:2.~ 522 .9 J9· C03..Ihrn:!!l & Diu 26.4 26·4 37·7 20. Dadra & ::-\agJ.r Ha\-cli . 2.8 2.8 3. 0 E.\STERX REGIO::\' 21. A<;sam 54.0 49·0 46. 2 22. Bihar 222.G '22'2.6 '235·7 '23· Orissa 133·f 94. 2 81.4 24. \VNt Bf'ngal 238.0 298 .0 300.3 2 5. l\[anipur 11.0 11.0 '3·5 26. ~agaland 11.0 11.0 '3·5 2 7 Arunachal Pradesh 13.0 13.0 1 3.0 28. Tripllra It .0 I 1.0 I J.O 2 9. !\.[rghalaya 16.5 16'5 16.5 I 1;0 J 30 • Sikkim I J .0 J.3 6;1; 31 • l\ii zo ram 6.6 6.6 DECDIBER 3, 1980 Written AmtDer. ICO Edaeated UDemployect (b) the total number of unem- .employed persons registered ill Em- 2244. SHRl K. A. RAJAN: ployment Exchanges, State-wise. as SHRlMATt GEETA on the same date? MUKHERJEE: Will the Min~ter of LABOUR be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. VENKATA REDDY): (a) Information (a) the number of educated un- employed at the different stages ot is contained in the statement I enclosed. ., ~ ~ education, State-wise, according to the latest available data from the Employment Exchanges all over the (b) Information is contained in the (l)untry; and Statement II enclosed. Statement I Educated Job-seekers on live regis- 'er as on 30.6-1980 (Provisional) States/Union Territories Matrie Hight'r Grauuates P"st Totd Secon- Gradu- daryl atc!>- Undrr Gradua- te'S __ .__ ...... --_.----- ._ ------.. ~-----~---_.- - - - _._._---_ ------:z 3 4 5 6 - _.._.,._.._.-...... ~.- ...... -.....-. I. Andhnr Pradeah • 33:>8.18 15 1736 1(l352 7 1()4i6 601 587 A. Assam. • 850 41 30257 20474 2a2 '36054 s. Bihar•• • • 4621 46 132480 112605 4388 i l1619 .... Gujarat • 194569 2:235 1 4 1997 :274 25919 1 ,. Haryana • • 10581 7 2 4180 32658 3552 166207 6. Himachal Pradesh • 50107 10043 7334 1I33 6361 7 7. Jammu & Kashmir 7286 ;jl7 5798 157' 19826 ' 8. Karnataka . 248656 38554 70684 5394 363288 9. K('rala. 56875 1 70 31 9 66839 4947 710856 10. Madhya Pradesh 32 :228 2 39359 66535 1 35 16 351638 II. Maharash tra 439348 53884 9 16gg 93'4 594245 u. ~{anipur. 29990 9524- 7970 658 481 42 I,. Meghalaya 2562 1006 695 83 4346 14. Nagaland «6 65 30 6 547 15. Orissa 100866 22898 4674 1 1188 1716g3 16. Punjab 120180 392 74 ,52803 3796 !u6053 17. Rajasthan 56541 57490 440 33 4983 163047 • 8. Sikkim. • • • • • • JOI WriUeft AtI8tD~8 AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Written AnsU7et"1 102 !Z 3 5 ,6 .. _------.._--.. .g. Tamilnadu 299357 76&.z7 93 1!l8 8365 .77477 80. Tripura' 1 • 19 55 9843 4210 178 33300 Utbr Prad~}l 21. 271 30 3 32603 1 1594~8 2:2963 779735 !Z2. 'We1It Bengal . 44 1 332 47°3S~ 1878 -1- 0 5'93 110475-4 UNIO.\' TERRITORIES I. Andaman & ~icobar bland. 1685 Illr 5:25 31 3358 2. Arunachal Pradesh· • • • • • :2 3. 013,ndi~arh 12589 664:) 7011 1797 304_ 4. Dadr.l & :"J'.l~:pr Havelj· • • • • • 5. l)(oPli 5939 1 18032.J 72767 7.125 2397 0 7 6. ('.0:\ 11133 1931 250 5 140 I 57(l9 7· L"lk"\ladw~cp log') 60 68 15 1233 8. Mizor,am 360 6.J20 370 58 7208 9 Ponuichf"rry T 27t,4 34-66 23 70 30 5 1c)4°5 ---- -_.. ------ALI. I'm!... TOT,'" 3970 54 1 19! 1438 13°31 54 111H37 72gt~)70 --_._--. -.~~-- -~ -_.------~----- ~" -.- N()tt' : ! •• '\:o Em;)·o.... m~nt Exchangt'! is functioning in thMC Stat~!Union Tf'rritflrif'~. '.. :\H t~1" joh-~ek"n re~i!\t("red with the F.mpl()ymt"nt Exchangt'5 10. Madhya Pradesh 8'0 ~l1mber II. !\fahara.,htra II' 3 of ioh- s~kf"rs on 1:2. Manipl1f J'O Live Register a, 13· M!'ghalaya o' r on 3t:>-6- 1980. 14· N:'galand 0'05 ------Orisc;a. 2 J5· 4'3 16. Punjab 4'3 I. Andhra Pradesh '3'2 17· Rajasthan 3'3 2. Assam. 3'3 18, Sikkim· • 22'2 3. Bihar. 19. Tamilnadu 10'2 4, Gujarat 4'5 !lo.Tripura 0'7 5. Hary-ana 3'4 2 I .U rttar Pradesh 13'7 6. Himachal Pradesh I' 3 22. West Bengal 22'S 7. Jammu & KMhmir 0'5 Union T erritoTies 8. K.arnataka • 5'7 I. Andaman & Sicobar Islands 0'°9 9. Kerala 13'7 2. Arunachal Pradesh • 103 Written Answer, DJDCDfBER I, 1980 Written Ata.rtDers 104 BaJsiq of S('/ST above povertJ' Iiu 2246. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA 3. Chandigarh 0,6 BOSE ALLURI: 4. Uadra & ,~agar Havdi· • SHRl VIRBHADRA SINGH: 5, Dt-lhi . SHRI JAI 'NARAIN ROAT: 6. Goa . Will the M'mister of PLANNING be 7. l.ak,hadw('C'p pleaSied to state: 8. Mizoram (a) whether it is a fact that Gov- 9. Pondidl~rry. ()'4 c!'nment intend to raise 50 per cent An I ndia Total: 15 1 '7 of the Schedt.led Castes and Schedul- ed Tribes pcop1re above the pove:iy ~OlC:: I.{, No Empoloyment 'Exchange- is line during the Sixth Plan; and functioning in lhrst" Stalt"s! Union Tt"rritorics. (b) if so, the details thereof? !2. All thr jub-S('('krrs f('gi,tt"rrd with th(' Employmr-nt i:xchangrs arc' nc,! 11('("(''';- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN :larily urwmploycd and registration THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI hring voluntary all lllH'lllployed SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) c..nd (b). prnons may not r('gi~l('r with the Employwt'nl l..:x.changn. The Plan frame for the Sixth Five 3. Excludt" figurrs for Cnin'rsit), Em- Year Plan recognises the necessity for • ploymrnt Informalion and (;uidancc finding an ehtctive solution to the Bureaux ("xcc-pl for Ddhi& !\lal .rashlr.!. problem of po\·erty. The poorest sec- tions are the landless labourers, small ~~ 1(It ~ and marginal farm::rs. rural artisans, scheduled ca!:.tes and scheduled tribes, 224 5. P.if~ ~ ~r" ~t on:rr find social and economically Backward nil" "aft ~ ~ ct't PiT rn f..t; : Classes. (~) m~~~ ~ lf The Plan frame lays emphasis on ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ the special dc\,'elopment programmps ifiTl1 q\ifl~ ~. m- fOr schedul:.=d castes and scheduled ~ ~ * qF(OII+ifq€\q fIIsPM:fi cf.t tribes. For the scheduled tribes and ~ it ~ ~ cpft 'Art~; dR tribal areas, the area-based apprvach adopted durinr the Fifth Five Year (~) ~ etT ~ fml Plan will (.ontinue. For scheduled ~ ~~W~'3~R'CfiT ~ cpstes, €mphasis will be laid on for- mula.tion of Special Component Plan3. t ? The approach to the development of scheduled castes and scheduled tribes \Jam ~a'I~ct ij m;t.f lt6(r (~r and other wLaker s::ctions and Back- ~.t(lt .,~): (Cfi) ~ if ward Class;s will be to intensify tile ~ t{~it~~m~ ~ existing efforts. Keeping in view their basic needs, family and house. (~ 1970-71= 100) ~I~f"fi(.;:fi hold orient: 8a&peusiOn of power generation at up a jOint pulp and paper project in Bajasthan At(Jmie Power Plant seeond India has en':.l"rged yet. 'IIIlit 2247. SHRI JAr NARAIN ROAT: Schemes under special component plan SHRI MANPHOOL SINGH for Harijan welfare CHAUDHARY; SHIH HIRALAL R. PARMAR: 2249. SHRI A, C. nAS: Will thl! .1\linister of HOME AFFAIRS be plcas- Will th;e FRIME MINISTER be ed to state: pleased to sbte; l:l) whether it is a fact that a (a) whether it is a fact that com- series of schl.'me's haVe been prepared mercial power generation which be- by Government under the special gan ",t the s€(.ond unit of the Rajas- component pbn for the welfar(' of th(' thun Atomic Power Plant ncar Kota Harijan Communities: has been stopped: and (b) if so, t:1e name's of the schenws (b)..if so,. t:1e details then'of and prepared under this programme and ,·:hat funher action Go':ernment ha,; proposed to be implemented in Orissa taken in the rri:'tter? during 1980-01; and THE MINISTER OF STATE l':-J «(') the details thereof'! THE DEPART?vIENTS OF SCIENCE AND TECHi\OLOGY A~D ELEC- THE MINISTER 01" STATE TN TRONICS (SHRI C. P. K. SINGH): THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFI"AIRS (a) and (bl. :\0 Sir. The ~econd (SHR! YOGENDRA MAKWANA): unit of the Ra;J.sth?n Atomic Power (a) to (c). It is a fact that the State Station is expected to commence commercial operation only by the Governments with substantial Sche- dUled Castes populations are formu- end of March 1981. lating Special Componont Plans. This Setting up of Joint Paper and P olper Special Component Plan of each State Pulp Projerts by India and Kuwait includes a lar!!e' number of schemes 2248. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: 'Vill 'illd programmes drawn out from the the Minister of I~DUSTRY be pleas_ State Plan it!:>elf. The Special Com- ed to state: ponent Plan envisages that in each sector schemes I'elevant to the deve- (a) whether any discussion has tak_ lopment of the Scheduled Castc3 en plaCe between India ane! Kuwait should be identified and formulat.:d, to discuss the possibilities of setting funds earmarked and the flows af up joint pr0jects in India in paper benefits quantified. Like other states and paper pulp; the Government of Orissa have also formulated a Specia,} Component Plan (b) if so, \"lheth6r any delegation for the Scheduled Castes for 11980-81. frOm Kuwait has also visited India In this are included programmes from recently; and all sectors: lutegrated Rural Develop- (c) if so, the details regarding the ment Programmey schemes fOr agri- decision taken thereon? cultural production like: mini-kits, demonstration plots, schemes for THE MINI~TER OF STATE IN handloom wesvers and other artisan3 THE MINISTRY OF I~-rnUSTRY (DR and craftsmen, cottage and village in- CHARANJIT CHANANA): (8.) to (c). dustries schemes for social and civic General discU!'sions had taken place ameniti~ for the Scheduled Casres during the visit of a Kuwaiti crelega- including drinking water and housing tion to India in September, 1980 on etc., and programmes for education. possibilities of collaboration aIld co- operatiOn in industrial fields, How- The Government of India have also ever these arc at a preliminary stage introduced a. Special Central Assist- and 'no concrete proposal for setting anCe to the Special Component Jnans 10 7 108 for the Scheduled Caate8 prepared by information Or on review of their the States. The Special Central As- cues or otherwise not fOUnd concl1.l- sistance is an additive to the State sively el.igible under the rules gcr/ern- Plan And programmes for the Schedul- ing the grant of pension. ed CUte. and does not tollow a acbematic pattern for ,pecitlc schemes. (b) Yes, Sir. It is for the totality of the State's eftort in the Special Component Plan (c) Freedom Fighters Pension pro- for the Scheduled Castes. visionally sauctioned are suspended! cancelled when a strong doubt ar~ Pension to freedom B,hten about admissibility of pension on one Or more of the following grounds:- 2250. SHRI F. H. MOHSIN; Will (a) AppliCant is not a genuine the Ml.nlster cf HOME AFFAIRS be freedom fighter. pleased to state: ( b) Suffering is less than six (a) whether, during the period of months. Janata Party: Government many free- dom fighters were deprived of their (c) Sufferings not in connection pension on the ground that they haV2 with freedom movement. not produced jail certificate to prO-Ie (d) SubmiSSion of false docum.en- their sufferings; tary evidence. --(b) whether such of the freedom (e) Internment/externment/aos- fighters who could not get the jail condence is nOt supported by certificates (as records haVe been des- docun·.entary e·;idence. troyed during British regime), could produce certificates from Legislators (f) Annual Jross income from all or ex-Legislators to the effect that sources was more than they suffered jail along with them for Rs. 4999 which was the pres- ceili~g the period of six months; cribed income until 1-8_1980 frOm which date the (c) in how many cases. pension was income c€:iling has been re_ stopped or cancelled by the then moved W1der liberalised pen- Government and whether they have sion. been restor~ now; As on 1-11.1980 pension was sus· (d) whethur sufficient publicity has pended in 5,934 cases and cancelled been given for enhancement of pen- in 1055 cases. Pension has been res- sion and removal of income limit, etc. ~ tored in 1235 cases. (e) the nUn'ber of freedom fighters getting the pensiOn at present and the (d) Yes, Sir. number of cases still pending; and (e) Out of 2,49.768 applications re- (I) the estimated expenditUre per ceived from the freedom fighters :is year On that account? On 1-11-1980. pension has been sanc- tioned in 1,18,.965 cases. No applica- tion for the grant Of pension is pend- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ing initial SCl'lItiny. 37,343 oases stood THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAmS as "filed" fOr want of documentary (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): evidenCe from freedom tighters andl to pension (a) The title Central is de· Or reports from the concerned State termined on the basis of the criterion Governments. As soon as the requir- prescribed and the documents furnish- ed information is received, the cases ed by the applicants and in consulta· are finalised and pension sanctioned with tion the concerned state Govern- when the cleiD) is adequately ~b ment. The claims of only those ap- llshed. pliCAnts have been rejected. who had Mt furnished the tull and requisite (f) About as. U.S C!'OIW. 109 Written AR81DeT.I AGRABAYANA 12, 1905 (SAKA) Writteft AAnHn 110 SettiDc lip of a Pa'blle Sedor Ia4astry courses within the State and variou8 ill Bljapar, KanWaka constitutional and legal issUes are involved. These are bein' considered. 2251. SHRI K. B. CHOUDHARI: Will th_ Micister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Patents obtaiDecI by Defeace Besearda (a) whether Government have any Orp.D1a.t.iOQ proposal to e~tablish a major central pulbie sector undertaking in Bijapur 2253. SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: Will district, Karn£rtaka; and the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, details thereof? (a) whether it is a fact that during THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the past 30 yt&rs only 6 patents have MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI P. been obtained by 35,000 scientists A. SANGMA): (a) and (b). Decisivns working in Df:'fence Research and De- in regard to the locations of central velopment Organisation; and Public sector Proj'eCts are based on (b) if so, tbe steps being taken to techno-economic considerations. How- imprOVe the research effort in the ever, the Sixth Five Year Plan (1980- Defence Rese&rch Organisation? 85) is under formulation and as such the details of the industrial develop- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ment programm-e in the country.. in- THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI cluding those in the State of Karna- SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) and (b) taka, during this FiVe Year Plan No, Sir. The primary role of Defence period have not as yet been finalised. Research and Development Organisa_ tion (DRoo) is to design and develop Central approval to "The Compulsory weapons and equipment required by S~reenin, of \Vest Bengal Films Bill, the Services for which it is not a 1979" practice to obtain parents. However, 2252. PROF. RUP cHAND PAL: SOme items which have civil applica- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: tion also, haVe been patented. l01 patents have so far been obtained by Will the Minister of HOME AF- DRDO of such items. FAIRS be pleclsed to state: (a) whether it is a fact that a Bill called "The C~mpu1sory Screening of Maharashtra-Kamataka Boundary West Bengal Films Bills, 1979" is disputes awaiting clearance from several Min- 2254. SHRr A. T. PATIL: istries of the Central Government for SHRI Vll..AS MUTTEMWAR: a long time; and Will the Minister of HOME AF- (b) if so~ the reasons for the delay FAIRS be plt'ased to state what steps in the clearance of the above Bill? Government propose to take for early solution of the Maharashtra-Karnatakal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN boundary dispute? THE MI~"1STRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH): (a) TIiE MINISTER OF STATE IN and (b) The Compulsory Screening THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS of West Bengal Films Bill, 1979 was (SHRr YOGENDRA MAKWANA): received as a draft Bill for previous The Maharashtra-Karoataka boundary sanction of the President under pro- dispute can be resolved only with the viso to Article 304(b) of the Constitu- willing cooperation of the State Gov- tion before its introduction in Ule ernments conce~ed and towaro. this State Legislature. The Bill proposes and the Central Government wUl be to impOse restrictions on the freedom glad to extend all aasistance. to th9' of trade and commerce Or inter- State Governments. III Written Answer. DECEMBIIft 3, 1980 Written Answers 112 Appltcattolll for luue of liCences to (b) if SOy the main features thereof? maaufadure cOlour TV THE MINISTER OF STATE 1:-1 2255. DR. \'ASANT KUMAR PAN- THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY DIT: Will the PRIME MINISTER b'~ (SHRI CHAP.ANJIT CHA:.~ANA): (a) pleased to st"te: and (b) The plan outlayS for the 1980- 85 period for the coir industry are (a) whether it is a fact that several under finalisation. application~ fr( m various firms i!1 India and abroad have been received Representation frOm East-India Photo- by Gon': ;mcnt fOr j:;sue of licence!:) graphic 1 faders ASSOciation Ltd. 10 mall' . _lct:..tn· coloured TV in the cl)untry; 22G7. SIEU KRISH:.l'A CHANDRA HALDEH: WiE the Minister of IN- (b) if so, the names of all ;;wJ: DUSTRY be [.leased to state: firms whOse letter of intent are nO ,v being processed fOr grant of liccm"_: (;;) whethpr Government haVe N- cei\'cd representation dated 3] st Octo- to m~nufadurE, colourcd TV; ber, 1 ~ao from EaSt India Photogra.ph!~ (c) whcth(.!f it is a fact that Gov- Traders A::;sociation Ltd, 43.. Lenin ernment will allow the import of Saran!. Calcutta-13 regarding supply coloured TV know-how and liLcral of phf)tosraphic rn2tlt'ia;s by HPF to import of electronic components in the this A~sl)t:iat;( n: and first stage of manufacture: and (i) if ::'0, \':11:1t steps Government (d) whether t~nV liC\.llCVS 11<..1\·c uJ- huve taken on this repl'csentation? ready been glven:. if so, the detJih: thereof, the capacity and the phast·.l THE MINI~TER OF STATE IN THr: l\ll~ISTHY OF Indianisation 01 indigenuus manu hc- INDUSTRY tUre? (SIIHI CHARA~JIT CHA~A~A); (a) Ye:-;. SiL I~ THE MIN!STER OF STATE (b) The If::.tkr \'.';1S examined and THE DEPARTMENTS 01<' SCIENCE it was found t1-.3t it is not possible fvr AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- HPF to supoly photographic material TRONICS (SHRI C. p. N. SINGH): directly to thi~ Association. (a) and (b) Applications for the issue of industrial licencees to manufacture Earning of' money by Indian Space colollr TV sets haVe been received Hepartlllent from the following two firms:- 2258. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will 1. MiS, R<1jasthan Industrial and the PRIME MINISTER be pleased tc Min~ra.l Development Corpo- state: ration, Jaipur. (a.) whether it is a fact that th~ 2. MIs. National Ltd., Mad- lnau Indian Space Department apart from ras. haYing several purely scientific and (c) Government has not decided 10 technological achievements of its launch the mnnufacture of colOur TV spaCe programme to its credit has now sets and so the question does not arise. started earnir.g money as well; and (d) No industrial licences have (b) if ~o. the details regarding tech- been given for manufacturing colour nologies and materials developed by TV sets. the Indian Space Research Organisa- tion and how far it has entered the Plib to de,'elop Coir IDdustry export market to earn foreign ex- 2256. SHR! V. S. VIJAYA RAGHA- change? VAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN be pleased to state: THE DEPARTMENTS 4 OF SCIENCE (a) whetlter the Central Govern- AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- ment have approved any plan for the TRONICS (SHRI C. P. N. SINGHh de"e1o~~r.t of (,(I!; indu<::try: tP... t (a) and (b) While. 113 Written AnsweTS AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written AnsweT' II4 the Department does not undertak'~ 2 2 (. O. ~~~' ~i~ ~«;; CftIT ~f~ ~fti'ic ~; ~ : m-{r ,. r.rf.,, ~~ ri;ii THE MINISTER OF STATE L~ ·TIlE MINISTER OF STATZ IN THE :MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY THE MINISTRY OF HOME (SBRI CHARANJIT CHANAL'lA): AFFAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA. (a) and (b). The retention prices MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir. were revised and re-fixed with effect from 3rd May, 1980. The Cement (b) The tribal sub-plans cover Manufacturenl ~tian have re- both protective and dev'elopmental presented that the increase allowed measures. The out'layS for the tribal is inadequate and does not fUlly sub-plan flow from State Plans. Spe- <.'Over the cost escalations which have cial Central Assistance sectoral out- taken place. This representation is lays from the Central Ministries and being examined. institutional finance. The total out- lays fOr the tribal sub-plan for the Reports on commUDal Riots Sixth Five Year Plan 'will be known only after the current Plan discus- 2265. SHRI AMAR ROY PRA- sio~s are finalised in the Plannin, DHANA: Will the Minister ot HOME Commission. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether Go\'~rnment ha ve re- (c) A statement showing total tri- ceived reports on the recent Commu- bal population in the sub-plan Hal riots; and St3te:::/UTs is attached, (b) if sO, the decision taken there- on? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'IHE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA Statement MAKWANA): (a) and (b). The Central Government has not ordered Tribal Population in suh·plan Stale! UTr. any inquiry into the recent commu- nal riots. The State Government of Uttar Pradesh have apointed a Com- S,:\"o. Statr',TTs Tril)al Population mission of Inquirv headed by a Dis- according to 1971 trict Judge. under the Commissions C('nsus (in lakh.) of Inquiry Act. 1952. to investigate into the incidents which took place - ---~~ _'---'--' ------_._- in Moradabad on the 13th Aul"tUt, I Ar;dh ra Pradesh 16'58 1980. It will be only after the re- ceipt of the report of the Commission 2 A!Sam 16'07 of Inquiry that the Central and state 3 Bihar 49' 33 Governments will be able to take any decision thereon. 4 Gujarat 37'34 Tribal sub-Plans for Tribal Welfare 5 Himachal Pradesh I' 42 2200. SHRI MADHAVRAO scm- 6 Karnataka 2'3' DIA: Will the Minister of HOME K~rab. 2·&J AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 7 (a) whether State Governments 8 Madha Pradesh 83·87 haVe launched Tribal Sub-Plans tor 9 ~1aharash tra 29'54- the wel!are Of tribals under the Sixth Plan; . " i j 10 Manipur 3'34- (b) if so, the details of such Sub- II Orissa 5°'7'1. Plans for each State and the total outlay thereof; and 12. Rajasthan 31 '26 (c) the number of tribal population 13 Tamil Nadu 3' III in eaeh of theee States? ----- 119 Written Answer. DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written An3tDer, I20 ~) , ;itlr-'f;T-'n'lT (f,;pn ~) S.No. Statcs{t: fs Tribal Pupulatinn ;:rcrr 1'Pf.:rvr ( f1rm Cf11ft) if 5 ~ according tr 1971 (fiAt) mite ~ ~4T ~ (fiRr Census I in lakh.. ) ~) if ~ mm- ~ ~ IDtci cf.T ~orr if. fr1"ct ~-'rn" ~ ~ 14 Tripura 4-5 1 trn: ~ I ·5 Uttar Pratl"sh I -CYJ J6 \\'<'st Ikllg,JI 25-:n Turnover of E.T.T.D.C. 22fj8. SHRI SUSHIL BHATTA- 17 Silddlll •• CHARYA: Will the PRIME MIXIS- .8 A&X I'iland~ () - iI: TEH be p~eased to state: 19 Goa~ Daman & Dill 11'1)7 (n) the turno\'er of the Electro- ._ ... -.._",--_ ... _ nics Trad(! and Technology De\'e:op- 'r01AL :tj9' f)i ment Corporation in the past three y Targets 12- 50 16'5° 15'00 ~11T ".~'« ~ it "eft (,,) Actuals 11 • 54 12' 19 ~"' ~T) (\ti) \;ft ~ I (.. ) W ('1') (1\if~Ft ~~ The reasons for the shortfalls are: Loss 0'£ consignment on high seas due fit1W~ ~~ ~~\ift to accident, delayed deliveries by (fi3tfi4l., ~ 'tiT ~ ~ ~, foreign suppliers, delayed creliveries ~ ifi:S~dW\ (~ ~), ~ by indigenous manufacturers against export orders due to technical prob- ~, (mr fm:lit) ~ (~ lems faced and lack of production 121 Written An.swe7'8 AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Written AMtDers I2S capacity for exports, difficulties faced (b) and (c). No, Sir, The fo11o,,- in meeting two-way trade obligations ing details of the turnover dt. the with East European countries. In company, the component of canalised items therein, and the net profit after some hies there have been delays in tax show that all the profits of the receipt of Letters of Credit resulting company do not come only from in delay in executing export orders. canalised items. 197U-79 1979-80· (Rs. ill (;1'01'('5) ..__.. _ ... -_& __ ...._.._.._.._..._ (i) Canaliscd itt'"ms 6'41 5'37 (ii) Itt'"mc; ordt'ccd by Dcptt. of EkctrOllics . I' 75 1'15 (iii) Others 4'33 4'03 4'13 -._..._.-.-~- ._-..-_-- II' 54 12' 19 10·65 ._.._._._.._ -~-- Xd Profit after tax (1<.s. in lakhs) 20' 24- 27'75 24' 15- ·FH~ures an: pro\'isional, subjn:t to audit. BHl!:L's failure to meet its commit- power generation in the country's ments power units have been cOnsiderably 2269. SHRI RASHEED MASOOD: delayed and haVe also hampered timely maintenance of the power Will the Minister Of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: units. However, in some cases sup- plies have been delayed with respect (a) whether it is a fact that be- to initially committed deliveries but caUSe of the failure of BHEL to meet these deiays, by and large, have not it:: commitment. installation 'V'f the afi''E'ctcd the commissionin'g of the additional power generation in the units, \ country's PoWer unit;; have been con- (C) Major causes for the delays in siderably delayed and have also ham- the past have been non-availability pered the timely maintenance of the of wagons, delays at the Port, power power units; cuts affecting production in BHEL (b) if so, the extent to which BHEL and its sub-contractors' delays in ob- has failed to meet its commitment taining imported components/mate- towards the power sector in the rials. country stating the present output of ( d) Bv and large, BHEL has ade- its various units as against the ins- quate capacity to meet the require- talled capacity; ments of the power secfor, However, (C) the reasons for constraints in where expansion Or creation of capa- the production Of these units of city for new items is necessary BHEL; and BHEL/Government haVe been taking (d) the measures taken by Gov- necessary actKm. ernment to remove the constraints? Quantum of central Investment 'or setting up Projects THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY 2270 SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- (SHRI 'CHARANJIT . CHANANA): JEE: . Will the Minister of PLAN- (a) and (b). It is not a fact that be- NING be pleased to state: cause of failure of BHEL to meet its ( a) the quantum of Central invest- commitment installation of additional ment made in the different States t:l3 Written AtU1Dm DICDlBER a, 1980 I~ alnce 1975-year-wise and state-wise THE ML.'TJSTER OF S'l'ATE IN' -for setting up of project. to be run THE MINn:mty OF DEFENCE by the Central Government or Cen- (SHRI SHIvRAJ' V. PATIL): ... Delhi 222,8 2if'9 4°(" 7 356 -3 42 i,8 5. Gdj.lrat. 301 ' 3 43l' 5 523'4- 620'9 'j&l'2 6, Haryana '9'4- 5 1 ,6 142 ' 7 IH'7 :ZT3-9 7, Him;Jchal Ptadesh 0'9 4':2 11,8 87'5 107.6 8, K \rnata~a 186,8 212'0 268'2 414'4- 529'8 9, K,.rala 202'2 246,8 274' 1 325'5 382 '7 10, M.1dhya Pradesh 837'6 l:lW' 3 149 2 '7 1793'6 1846., 11, M!\harashtra 306 '4- 37" .5 f'30'3 909'2 976-6 12. Orissa , 5i7'o 6:9,6 646'5 6':;4'4- 710'3 IS, Punjab 77'5 16,:;'.! '97,8 225' 7 344'5 14, Rajasthan 160'2 ,87'7 227' 1 277' t 292'0 '5, 'f.uniJ Xadu 384'5 493,6 466 '9 563'4- 61 5'8 16, Utt:.\t Prad"i:l 2 56-5 30 5- 6 376'2 486-9 658'1 '7, West Beng.ll 758-3 566 '0 768'3 1°58 .8 1082'9 18, Jarn~nu & Kuhmir 6'9 7'2 5'7 5,8 6'2 19. Goa 2'9 2'9 3'3 4'9 5'4 sao, Oth~r Sta~s & Union Territories exclud- ing Delhi 8,8 u,8 6"9 107'5 130'2 21. Unallocated , _...... _...__..._._9,n,6 ._It1 322' -. ._,.._.._.._ 3 1 ....734'9 -,.._.._. .. -..._.,_..._....._.._.___.._1986,8 2802, .. _-- a ft, TOTAL. 7423'9 91J 2'3 1145"2 J3105'3 1sfi67'9 Souaaa: A'loual R.epor~ of the \Vorking of Industrial & Commercial Undertakings of the Cen- tral Government (Bureau ofPublic Enterprites, Ministry ofYmance). J 2S Written Aft81DeTS AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written Afl.S1Der, I~ Def.elltious under National Security (b) None of the soove 24 cases Ordinanee ~~re reviewed by appropriate Gov- ernments suo mo~o. 2271, SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI: Permission to import of equip_eats Will Minister of HC.>ME AF- the by TISeO FAIRS be pleased to state: (a) in how many cases the orders 2272 SHRI P K. KODIYAN: Will of detentkm under the National Se- the Minister of' INDUSTRy be pleas- curity Ordinance. 1980· were upheld ed to state: by the Advisory Boards formed for (a) whether Government have the purpose of reviewing these orders allowed Tata Iron and St>eel Com- in diff>erent States and their break- pany (TISCO) to import equipment up State-wise and Union Territory- for oxygen plant; Wise; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (l:\) in how many cases these orders (c) whether his attention has been were reviewed by the concerned drawn to a news-item appeared in State and Union T~rritory adminis- "Busim?ss Standard'" dated October trations suo·motu and the detenus 3, 1980 in this regard; and re~eased? (d) if so. the details and his reac- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion thereto? THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY WAN A) : (a) 24 cases of detentions under the National Security Ordi- (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): nance. 1980 were upheld by the (a) Yes, $ir. Advisory Boards as on 24-11-80 in (b) Details are appended. various States/Union Territories as (c) Yes, Sir. indicated below: (d) The decision to allow imports 1. Manipur 1 was taken after taking into conside- 2. l]ttar Pradesh 15 ratiOn various aspteCts such as fund- 3. Delhi 8 ing pattern, periOd of denvery, gua- rantee on technical competence. The Total 24 insinuations made in the news item are baseless. DETAIL OF C.\PIT.\L GOODS .\PPLIED FOR : M.\CHI~ERY & EQUIP~{E~-r 2 5 TOT.\L FOB "alue Quantity «(R'J.) lakhs Origin Descripti on ITe X o. •__ ....--- 84.66 Machinery & Equip-l Unit~d Kingdom; ment for 2 X 05.250 : France ; Weat Ger- tonnes per day ;- many Oxygen Plan t J I072 '30 3!akhs !l. Value of initial spares 103' 608 lakhs 3. Eltimated freig~t • 12 7 Written Answers DECEMBER 3. 1980 Written Answer, ------_._--- 1 3 ------_._----_._-- 5 4. Insurance r I . 759 lakhs 5. Tot.lll eLf. value [Total of cols. (I) to (.t) above] . ,6. In forl"ign Exchangr D~f 8.314.167 FF 4,393.316 .£ 4,931;,675 Rates of l~xchangl" R". JO(,"'"" £.)' 6555 =D:"l 23-10 =FF 53'30 ,. AK~nt", Commis"ion. ifany. payabk, in fOft"igll t"x- change . 2} % of FOB vaiu(" of equipment and spart"s to Tata' Ltd. London. vid(" RBI's Letter No. EC/CT/233-5i-H-78 of 4-1-78. Maternity Benefit Act 2273. SHRIMATI GEET A MUKER- .JEE: Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased' to state: 2274. 9;fT mf~ ~ : (a) whether Government are aware 'll ~T~~' i~ ~ 0 tRm'{: of the numerQus loopholes in the working of the Maternity Benefit Act. 1961 taking advantage Of which the CflIT 1!~ ~ ~ ~ eft ~ ·employers deny the maternity relief to thousands of women workers; and ~~: (b) if SQ. whether Govlf!rnrnent are considering accepting the recommen- (Cfi) CftlT ~ ~ ~ fcIi ~ dation made by the Status of Women lt~~~ctftf~~~ Committee and supported by the leading women's organisations that ~~~; the provision Of maternity relie'f be ('nsured by levying contributiOn from employers and the fund administered (~) em ~ '+iT~:q ~ ftfi lfiJ fW On the pattern of thE' Emp1oyees' ifi ~ tie"l1"j at I {;;tT"(, ~ State Insurance Scheme? krfi III ~ ~~ itl~'q~l f('lf M LT.FI. Expaodblg 1M..... ~~) (~) ~ ~ if 15 2275. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL ~, t9~O ~ ,"0 to ~o if; NAIDU: Will the Minister of IN- DUSTRY be pleased to state: 33375 ~Wrmm ~ ~~ (aJ whether relaxations were made If(f ri; ~ w.mr if 38628 ~ in the restrictions regarding MRTP in expanding industries and ., (b) if so, the details thereof? THE MINSTER OF STATE IN ~ ~ ~ (fir) 16 15 TrtE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY 1980 ctt ~U" it mr.=r ~~ ;:pt'{ (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): q ;itfr ~ 4 ~ ~i=f ~ J}'it (a) and (b) Government has not softend its approach to larger private ~ ~ tliT ~ 1f111'9T Wrm ~ector undertakings Government's ob- ~ f.filfT tTlIT I ~ ~ ifi mR jective, however, continues to be the ~ ~ ~ti .. ,f(l:ii ifiT~! optimum utilisation of capacity, and the maximisation of production, with- mTit~~ 6~~~ in the framework of Governments ~ 388 ~ ~m f.nt 1T": I socio-economic policies, Towards this objective, Govern- ment have announced that a li5t of 34 industries (among which are in- cluded industries which are of core, basic and strategic importance to the ( )) ~ ~I€f~~~i ~~- national economy or are linked there- ~~ .... ~-A ... " with or are export-oriented) wou}d ''1'1 'fll ~ '1i~'l1 8e"_ ter TriIrU DeYeJepJDellt el (a) Dumber of applications for in- ...tar dustrial licences from the cUf!erent States for the last 2 years State-wise; 2280. SHRI ARVIND NETAM: Will the' Minister of HOME AF- (b) the nwnber of licences arant.. FAIRS be pleased to state: State-wise during the last 2 years; (8) whether there is any proposal (c) the total capital investment en- under consideration to formulate a visaged in those licences granteci eomprehensi'ye echeme for the trial State-wise; and development of Bastar District of (d) the nwnber ot licences grant.. Madhya Pradesh; and ed S8 far durinJ the current year- (bJ if so, the detail,. thereof? State-wise? ,mE MINISTER OF STATE IN THIl MINISTER OF STATE IX THE :MINISTRY OF HOME AF- THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- (SliRI CHARANJIT CHANANA) WANA): (8) Comprehensive plans fOr development have been draWJa (a) A Statement is enclosed. (State- up by each one of the 7 Integrated ment-I). Tribal ])evelopment Projects of Bas- (b) A Statement is encioeK tar District, super imposed by a (Statement-II) . Bastar Tribal Development Authority (b) The Tribal Development (c) The information regardinl Authority Bastar will oversee the total capital investment envisaged i. implementation of various develop- the industrial licences granted is not ment programmes in the District. centrally maintained in the Secre- tariat for Industrial Approvals of the Licenc~ iSSued to States Department of Industrial Develop- ment. n81. SHRI NIREN GHOSH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas- (d) A Statement ia enclosed (State- ed to state: ment -III). Statement - I NUHBU ow INDUBTJUAL LICENCE ,ApPLICATIONS .JlECIUVED DUJUNO THE YLU.S 1978 & 1979. '\!. ~ l:n~ of the State/Union Territory Industrial Licence No. ApplicatioIII received during ...... __"._,. - .. __.._,. __.. __.._._ 1978 1979 J. Andhra Pradesh 10 0 117 2. Auam 17 6 3. Bihar 34- !.I5 •. Gujarat 1,56 ~~3 5. Haryana 57 86 ~. Hinn.c"tal Pradesh 22 22 7. Jammu & .Kashmir 13 IS 13S Written. AnsweT, ~3,1980 Written AtI.I1Der. Is' St. Name of the StateJ Industrial Licence App ications No. Unio11 Territc4')' rereived during .,.__..__..._,._...._------19?8 1979 8 . .Ka-ala 29 2. 9 J .K.arnatak a 67 lOS 10. Madhya Pradesh 73 is 1 I. Maharathtra 316 30 4 1:1. Meghalaya :2 J 3- N agaland 14. Or;'•. 32 2 5 15. Punjab 62 49 It;. Raj.~lhan 62 80 17. 'r.unil N adu . 83 ~ 18. Tripura J9. Uttar Pradesh 93 112 RO. West Bengal log 8, !ll. Chanci'sarh 3 aa. Anda.man & Nicobar 113. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 4- 3 ~.f. Delhi 29 12 a5. Goa, Daman and Diu 7 14 1116. Pondicherry • :2 ...._~--...... - TOTAL 1370 .._...... __.._....._._.._.'4-'st...... _ Statemeat·D • • ,.. C • ... ~ STATE-WISE BREAK-UP OF NUMBER OF INDUSTRIAL LICENCES GRANTED DURING THE YEARS 1978 AND 1979 ------51. Name of the Sta.te/Union Territory No.ofIn~ No. Licences issued ~. I AtJhr.a Pradesh 1 7 R Andaman a: Nicobar • 1'37 Written AftoStDet"I AGRAHAYANA 12" 190a (S~) Written A""",,, 1,38 51. Name 0: the Statel Xo. of Industrial I.icCl'CCS No. Union Territory" __...... _.._t..,_.._..._.._.._.issued during __ .. _,,_ 197ft 1979 -,------_.------:3 Auam 4 Bihar 5 Chandigarh 6 Dadra & ~agar Haw'li "; Ddhi g Goa, Daman & Diu ~I Gujaraf to Haryana 1 1 Himachal Pradesh 12 Jammu & Kashmir 1 3 Karnataka 14 Kerala . I;) ~{adhya Pradesh 16 ~1aharashtra 17 ~{anipur IR Meghalaya 19 ~agaland :20 Orissa :2 6 21 Pondicherry - 22 Punjab 9 13 :23 Rajasthan 10 8 24- Tamil Nadu 28 a6 25 Tripura - 26 Uttar Pradesh ~ 33 27 . ,",'est Bengal 23 29 28 State not indicated 3 2 ..__.,_. TOTAL 348 36s Writ"" AtI61Der. DlCaM"'IIK 3, 1180 140 StatemeJlt-m STATE-WISE BREAK-UP OF NUMBER OF 1~1)USTRIAL I.ICEr\CES GRANTED DU·\.lNG THE PERIO.) JASU.\ltY-OCTOUER, 1980 SL. Name o~ the Statel :.;u. 0 Licences grantoi during No. Un:on Territory Janllary~- Obt()ber, 1980 Andhra Pradrsh :2 Andaman & ~icohar 3 Arunachal J'radrllh 4 A'ISarn !i Bihar 6 Chantiig,lrh 7 Dallra & Nagar Hav(·li 8 Ddhi 9 Goa, Darnan & Dill . 10 Gujarat . 79 I' H:.. ryalla 19 12 Him:\chal Pra 13 Jammu & K.lllsmir. 14 Ka.rnataka 35 15 Kef.lIft 6 16 L M & A Islands 17 Madhya Pr;\desh 18 Maharashtra 94- 19 Manipur ::0 Mrg!lalaya 21 ~{izoram 22 Nagaland ::13 Or;..... '. 7 24- Pondicherry 25 Punjab 13 26. R.ajasthan q. 27 Tamil Nadu 33 28 Tripura . 29· Uttar Pradesh 24- 30 \\'est Bengal 18 31 State not Indicated • ~ __w- ______TOTAL __ 141 Written Aft61De1"a AGRAHAYANA 12, 1m (SAKA) Written ANtOers I.ja State and the Central Services Oyer the past year, and the nature of such crimes; 2282. fall "1q'q"(fH .,·i'if : (b) the number of such persons sent ~ -" l{~j ·1 ~ c(.T pn Cf;"{iT r up for trial; and the results thereof; ~: and (c) whether Government propoSe to (er.) cpn 'l~ ~ ~ fCfi ~ ~ appoint oommhtees of experts includ- %~ ~ THE 1-UNISTER OF STATE IN THE ( un" the adminiItrative control '" 23. Cycle Corporation Of India (Sea variou,a JIiD1atrle8iDepartments of the Raleigh Unit). Central Government is attached. In addition, the State Government are 24. Smith Stainstreet Pharmaceuti- also imPlementing a number of indus- cals Ltd. (Management, Control). trial projeeta as a part of the State 25. Bengal Immunity Co. (Manage- Plan. While the State Government ment Control). receive8 Central assistance to imp. ment the State Plan, the Central assis- 26. National Textile Corporation. tance ~ not earmarked &pecifically for establiahin, tndividual industries. In addition to the projects men- tioned above Central investment is set... LIlt 01 c-tral Projeeta ta tI» i..tlso made in West Bengal in various 8tUe 01 Wilt a-caJ public sector undertakings like Coal India Ltd., ONGCt OIL etc. 1. Steel Au\horUy of India Ltd.· -Dura.pur Steel Plant, DurP- pur. Productien 01 .....,._ A.-....e 2. SAlL-Alloy Steel Plant. DUrp· Power PJam ~. ~ I 2285. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Will 3. I.LS.C.O., B~. the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 4. Indian Oil Corporation-Haldia state: 'BeAneries. (a) the total quantum of electricity 5. Hindustan Fertilizer Corporaw. being produced by the Rajasthan -Dw:aapur. Atomjc Power Plant; 6. HiI1dtWtan Fertilizer Corporation -Haldia-under implementa- ( b) whether the plant is working to tion. its full capacity; 7. Hindustan Cables Ltd., Rupnara- yanpur. ( C) if not, the reasons therefor; and 8. Mining and Allied Machienry (d) what steps Government propose Corporation, Durgapur. to take to see that the plant works 9. Braithwait and Co., Calcutta. upto its full capacity? 10. 'Burn Standard Ltd. 11. Jessops Ltd., Calcutta. THE MlN~TER OF STArx:E IN THE 12. Britannia Engg. Works. DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRONICS 13. Indo-Burma Petroleum. (SHiRl C. P. N. SINGH): (a)Unit I of 14. Balmer Lawrie. the Rajasthan Atomic Power Station 15. Biecco Lawrie. is generating around 4.5 million units per day. Unit n of the Station is 16. Brielle and Roof 00. being test run and is presently genera- 17. Bharat Wagons Co. ting around 1.78 million units J)er dq. 18. Bharat Brakes and Valves Ltd. (b) to (d). Unit 1 is operating at 19. Andrew Yule and Co. 200 .we agaiDat its rated aapaoity of 20. National 'llnstruments Ltd., 22D M}Ve,.which ..is a ~ly.hIIb .Tadavpur. lev~ of Mn~ticin. ~ Would 1'~ made to ensure that a high ievel of 21. Bbarat ~ Glass Ltd. generation is maintaiDeiL t1Dit 1'1 is 22. Benpl Chemicals and Phar· siill ~ ~ tun ~ ~ ~~re maceutieals Works. Qeing operated at.a lower vower level I45 Written AftB1DerB AGRAHAYANA 12, Iota (SAKA) Written Aft8\DerB 146 ...... ".c.e. .,.. DowI'y ~.A« 2186. $HRI ATAL BIHAR! VAJ- 228'1. SRRI CHl"l'T A BASU; " PAYEE: SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: SHlU ·M. V. CHANDBASHE- ItARA .MUR'niY: Will the Minister of HOME AF- FAIRS be pleased to state: Will the Minister of HOME AF- FAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Poliee Commiaion has sinCe submitted four reports; and (a) the State-wise break-up of the n trmber of deaths and cases registered (b) if so. the salient features there- under the Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961 of and the action taken thereon? during the last three years and how many of them were decided in sen- '1)IE MlNlST,ER OF STAT~ IN ~ tencing ~n; tile accused MINISTRY OF HOME AFFA1JtS (b)" the nature alld extent and de- (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): tails of inadequacy Of the ex.ist~ laws (a) The NatiOnal Poilce commiSsIon to deal with the Dowry problems and has su'bmitted five Reports to the Gov. the steps being taken ill this regard; ernment of 'India so far. (c) whether the InstUute of JCcono- (b) In these five Repo~s, a large mic and Market Research has been number xecommendations .hlive asked to make a study of the problem Of been made. 'The salient' features of so as to evolve a programme of social these reports are and legiSlative action; arid that they deal with cb.a.Qaes .needed, in the .0p.i.J)iQD of the (d) it so, the details and method Comulipipn. .in ntatters relating to thereof and. the progress of the study various bnllches of the POlice and being undertaken? varioUs asPeCts of t.beir funct.ioniqc. The recOJDnlepdationa contain$i iJ;1.the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE First !Wport suggesting rectificati.ollS MINIS'1'RY dF HOME AFFAIRS of certain deficiencies in the living and (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): working co~4.itions of the police which ( a) The requisite information is bemg presently inilitate against t.Deir func- collected and on recei~ .Of the same tioning etftCiently to public satis- a statement will be laid on the Table faction and also suggeetmg of the House. the modalities for enquiry into (b) A proposal to amend the Dowry eomplru.nts of police mis-oonduct in a Prohibition Act, 1961, is under the manner whiCh will carry credibility active consideration of t.he lIinistrY and eatisfaclion 1iO the public regard- of Law, Justice and Company Mairs. ing their fairness and impartiality w~e~~ilieG~6mnent~ (C) and Cd) Yes, Sir. The study will ll\dia with the Chief Ministers ~ be cQniined to an area where the com- States at a Conference in New Delhi munity is sufticiently represeotative on 6-6-79. N~ry follow-up aetion and covers all aspects of problems is sinCe being . ~ken by the State affecting the quantum ~d form of Governments on the decisions taken dowry, the awamess of law relating to dowry and. .rpJe of y_oluntary agencies at that Conference. in curbinc :\his evil. A Jew case studies will ~1so be .co.nduCted among (2) The recommendations of .the house-boWs .~ ,by d~ abuse. CommissiOn contained in the ~ The data' eortection process, is in pro- tour Reports are uncitr consideration grea: ; .': [lItf! Of the Govermnent of Dldia. 147 DIICDfB_ 8, 1980 148 BaPe- womea THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRl 2288. SHRl A. NEELALOHITHA- SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) and (b) DASAN: Will the lvlinist.er of HOME Yes, Sir. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) The Government counsel ha& (a) the number of instances of been instructed to move an application rape on women reported during th~ for vacation of the stay order. periOd 15th January, 1980 to 15th October, 1980; Concessions to Eledronic.; Industry (b) the respective number of ins- tances during this period in the years 2290. SHIH G. S. REDDI: Will the 1977, 1978 and 1979; and PIiL\1E MINISTER be pleased to state: (c) action taken by Government tv (a) whether the recent concessiol!i prevent further instances of this to b€etl'onics indust.ry have brought kind? corresponding response in terms' of THE MINISTER O~.. STATE IN THE larger capital investment in the elec- MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS tronic industry; (SHR! YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (b) if not, the reasons thereof; (a) and (b). The req uisi te informa- tion is being collected and on receipt (c) whether ~lectronic industry ha~ of the same a statement will be laid demanded more concessions 'from On the Table of the House. Government; and (c) The Government of India have (d) if ~o, Government's reactions introduced in the Parilament on 12-8- thereto? 1980 "The Criminal Law (Amend- THE MINISTER OR STATE IN ment) Bill 1980", which, if passed, will THE DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE help successful prosecution of persons AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- accused of rape and would also curb TRONICS (SHRl C. P. N. SINGH): the occurrence of further such cases. (a) and (b) The concessions to the electronics industry have principally Direct Recruitment of NGOs and been of a fiscal nature and were Ammunition J)isclpliD.e announced in June, 1980 as part of the Union Budget for 1980-81. As 2289. SImI V. KISHORE CHAN-, such, it is too early to say whether ORA S. DEO: Will the Minister of they have been responded to in terms DEFENCE be pleased to state: of larger capital investments. (a) whether it is a fact that the (c) Yes, Sir. controller of Inspection (Ammunition) Ki:r1kee (Pune-3) had issued a letter (d) The matter is being studied. with regard to the direct recruitment Persons arrested in Communal Dis- of NGOs for Ammunition Discipline turbances and weapons seized in the year 1979 and selected candi- dates for different posts; 2291. SHRlMATI SUSEELA GOPALAN: (b) whether it is also a fact that SHRI pIUS TIRKEY: N agpur High Court had issued a stay SHRI B. V. DESAI: order with regard to the above re- SHRI ATAL BIHAR! cruitment of posts; and VAJPAYEE: SHRt R. L. P. VERMA: (c) if so, the details of the action taken by the authorities in this Will the Minister of HOME regard? AFFAIRS be pleased to state; (.) the number of people arrested delegation were of a g;;ueral nature. during the communal disturbances in It was mentioned that India wu the country sinCe August, 1980; currently preparing the Sixth Five Year Plan (1980-85) wherein the (b) the number Of weapons seized tasks and priorities would be iden- and people arr~sted in connedion tified. India's policies in regard to with the riots; and private foreign investment as also (c) whether there were any foreign transfer of technlOlogy was spe:t out made weapons; if so, the details in the meeting. There was a gene- thereof? ral exchange of views on the possibi- lities of further cooperation between THE MINISTER OF STATE IN India and Federal Republic of Ger- THE MiNISTRY OF HOME AF- many in industrial and related fields FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA .MAK- namely. drugs and pharmaceutica~ WANA): (a) to (c) The inlorma- coal, power, metal goods industries, tion for the period from August, 1980 steel export oriented industries, joint to November, 1900, is beIng coLect- ventures in third countries and tech- ed kom the variou;5 State Govern- nology transfer. The discussion led ments and will be laid IOn the Tab!e to a better understanding Of each :>f the House. other's n'eeds and capabilities. Visit of a Delegation of the Federation Statement of German Industrialists List of members of the Federation of German Industrialists 2292. SHRI SHIV KUMAR SINGH: SHRI AMAR ROYPRA- 1. Prof. Dr. Kurt Hansen, Leader DHAN: of the delegation, Honorary Mem- ber of the Presidential Board, Will the Minister Of INDUSTRY Chairman of the Supervisory be pleased to state: Board. (a) whether a delegation IOf the 2. Mr. Gunter Becker, Managing Fe 10. Herbert Pavel, ¥ember Of. t4e THE MINISTER OF STAT.lJH 'EHE Presidential Board, Federation of MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAms German Industries, KGiIl. (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): 11. ~hard Schliephake, Director (a) and (b) The subject "Prisons" International Department, AEG- being in the State List of the seventh TelefUnken mt~rgie-1ind Indus- Schedule to the ConstitUtion, adminis- trietechnik AG. tration and maintenance of jails is 12. Dr Paul A Stein, Member of the responsibility of State Govern- the Bo~rd of Management, Robert ments. Notwithstanding this, Gov- Desch GMBH, Stuttgart. ernment of india have, from time to 13 . .Max stohr, Managing Partner. time, given technical advice and also DEIA.. bnport/Expo.rt Agentur, some finanCIal assistance to States to Obertshausen. enable 'them to undertake suitab1e jail reforms. Recently a Conunttt~ 14. Heinz Tombrink, Head of De- on Jail Reforms has been set up by ptlrtmertt, 'Foreign Trade and the Government untier 'the Chalrmgn- ,~ropean Integration', Federation ship of Shri Justice A. N. 'Muna (re- 'of derman Industries. Kaln. tired) to consider various m:ttters :re- lating to jail 'administratio:n a:nd to 15. Baron Ernst Christian von make necessary recommenHations tor Werthern, Memb~r of the Super- effecting improvements. visory Board. (c) and (d) Government have seen 16. Rainer E. Wellmann, ~mber a report appearing in a section of the of the Presidential Board, Federa- Press stating that the Maryanll Jail tion of German Industries, Koin. Reforms Commission have made some recommendations for imparting Job 17. F. Stefan Winter, Department training in jails. The report is pri- "Foreign Trade and European In- marily for that State Government to tegration" Asia and Pacific Desk. implement and may ~ be cOllsidered by Federation o'f German Industries the Government of India, if referred (BDI) Koln. to it by the State Government. Proposal fOr Jail RefOrms Publieation of CiYil List Of (}eltral services 2293. SHRI CHATURBHUJ: Will the "Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 2294. SHRI NAND KISHORE pleased to state: SHARMA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to (a) whether there is any proposal state: for Jail Reforms; (a) the criteria adopted in publish- (b) if so, the details thereof and ing the Civil Lists of the various the advice given to State Govern- Central Services of the Central Gov- ments; ernment; (c) whether Government's atten- (b) the names of the Services tion has been drawn to the report of whOSe civil lists haVe been published the Tek Chand Commission for Ja11 and the years thereof; Refoml.s submitted to the Haryana Government recently; and (c) whether Government are not in favour of publishing civil lists ot (d) if so, the main features thereof all the Services; and and Governttlent's reaction to each of tlif!m witb a view to ad'Vise other (d) if so, the reasons therefor and states? the steps taken in 1his direetion? 153 Written AmweTS AGR.AHAy ANA 12, 1102 (SAKA.) Written Af&$'Wera 154 '11IE ~ OF STATE IN ~ .THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ~IS:rR'y OF HOME AFl!~AiRS MINiSTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (SHm ~. VENKATASUBBAIAH) : CHA~""lJIT CHANANA): ~a) The (a) No generaJ. criteria has been laid demands Of the State Governments dQwn. for p\.1.blishing the Civil Lists are not collected 011 quarterly basis. o~·. t.'he various' Central Services by the A Statement of quarterly allocations Department of Personnel and Admin- inCluding ad hoc allocations and sup- istrative Reforms. Civil lists or plies of cement to the States!Union s~ority lists are published by the territories during the years 1977, 1978. co.nc~ned cadre controlling authori- 1979 and UplO three quarters of 1980 ties for their administrative purposes. is laid on the Table of 'the House. [P,aced in Library. Set! No. LT- (b) There is no scheme for collect- LT-22 180] ing the information in regard to t.he civil iists centnlly in the Department (b) The States a:'e given bulk a11o- of P:-r ~onnel and A:imisitrative He- catio!1..<; every quarter on the norms of forms. Hence, the information is not past consumption and overall avtUl- available in the Department of Per- ability of cement. The states are free sonnel and Administrative Reforms. to sub-allocate the bulk allotment at their disposal among public sector, in- (c) and (d) The publication of the dustrial sector and public use. Civil Lists is the concern of the res- (c) A quantity of 16,67,499 tonnes pective cadre controJing authorities. of cement has been imported during It is, therefore, npt considered neces- the period from 1-1-1980 to 30-9-00. sary to pUblish them centrall:: from A shtement showing Statewise des- the Department of Personnel a:ld patches of imported cement during Administrative Reforms. this period is laid on the Table of the HQuse. [Placed in Library. See No. state-wiSe diStrihutiOn ancI Import of LT- 180J Cement (d) Main reasons for shortfall In 22g5. Shri B. R. NAHATA: supply are non-materialisation ot SHRI AMARSINH anticipated productiOn and difficulties RAT'HAWA: experienced in transportation of SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: cement. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Introduction of annual enca"m_t of (a) how m~h ~ement has been leave in Government Oftlces quarterly demanded and allotted to different states and territories durin g 2296. SHRI SURM BHAN, M. P.: the last three years including this Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS year and how much has I>eei'l supplied be pleased to state: to them; (a) whether, in some public under- (b) what are the criteria of allot- takings, the employees are entitled to ment of cement to States for public get their leave encashed annually and sector, industrial sector and private this scheme has resulted in improve- use; ment of efficiency and more produc- tion; (c) how much cement bas been im- ported in the current year and how (b) if so, whether Government pro- mUch has been allotted to each State; POle to C()~ider introducing the .n- and nual encashment of leave in all Gov- ernment Ofttces; and (d) what are the main reasons for .ort supply? (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Written Anl1Der, 1,56 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the names of such 01 the above MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Companies which have not even (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH): installed the licensed capacities for (a) Some of the Public Sector more 5 per cent; aDd Unc:fertakings have the scheme of en- ca.hment of annual leave for their (c) in view of the above stated employees, It is not possible to say facts, the action Government propose whether this facility has resulted in to take against such companies? improvement of efficiency and more production. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THK MIN!STRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRl (b) and ( c ) It has not been possi- P. A. SANGMA): (a) and (b) A list ble to introduce scheme for encash- of the companies borne on the roUt ment of annual leave lor the Central of the Directorate General of Techni- Government employees in view of lhe cal Development which come under substantial non-plan expenditure in- 'he purview of the FERA/MRTP volved. Act and whose actual production tell below 10 per cent of their lic~nsed capacity for land during the last three Prod1let1on by COmpanies under years is attached. On the basis of FERA/M.R.T.P. Ad the available information it does not seem possible to establish a co-rela- 2297. SHRI DHARAM BlR SlNHA: tion between installation of the pro- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be d uction capacity and under utilisation pleased to state: of approved capacity. (C) All the steps that are permis- (a) the names of the Companies sible unaer the provisions of the coming under the purview of FERAl Industries (Development and Regu- MRTP Act whose actual production lation) Act, 1951, and the Registra- falls below 10 per cent of their licen- tion and Licensing of Industrial ~ capacity for land during the last Undertakings Rules, 1952, are taken three years; to meet the situation, The list ofcl)m::>1nle'l coming W1der the purvi:w ofFER-\IMRTP Act who. actual pro~ucti(;;n falls b~'ow 10% of their licensed capacity for and during thr- last three years -ENGINEERING s. ~o. ~ 1m": of th' und ~rL\king I tem of m~'1ufacture J. M!s. K 'l.m1ni Eagg. Co:"pr. Ltd., Bombay Tractor mounted Read Roller l. MIs. Kirloskar Kill$an Equipment Lin ited, P()(\na Petrol Engi.ne g. MIs. Rallis India Ltd .. Bombay Petrol Engine 4. MIs. Escorts Tran!;migion Ltd .. Faridabad . Transmission ('..ears 5. MIs. Kir'uskar Pneumatic Co. Ltd., Poona Torq\'e Convertor 6. MIs. Siml)9()Jl & Co. Ltd., Madras I. Trailors z. Bus Bodies 7. MIs. Tata Engg. & Locomotive Co. Ltd., Bombay Bus Bodies - ---_._------S.No. Name of the undertaJdll8 Item of mar ufacture I. Mis. Sundaram Clayton Ltd., Madras Mopeds ,. MIs. Premier Auto;n)~ile Ltd., Bombay Roam Air-conditionen 10. Mis. Voltas Ltd., Bombay I. Cranes 2. Machine Tools accessories 11. M/!. BECO Engg Co., Ballabhgarh 12. MIs. Utkal Machinery Ltd., Sundergarh • Valves 13. MIs. Larsen & Toubro Ltd., Bombay. J. Valves :.1. ~{isccllaJleous electronic devices J4. 1,5. Mis. English Eit"Ctric Co. (1) Ltd., Madras Electronic 1('st & measurin, inslrwncnts 16. Mis. A~ociated Cement Co. Ltd., Bombay Bin Level Indicators 17. Mis. DCM Data Products, New Delhi Data entry systems & data loging syst(·m, 18. MIs. Hindustan Brown Boveri Ltd., Bombay Td("Jp"try hquipments 19. Mis. OEN India Ltd., Cochin J. Reeds Relays 2. Potentiometers, wircwound 20. MIs. Forbes & Forbt!s Campbell, Bombay Regulated power supplien 21. MIs. Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., Bombay Carbon Track Potentiometers 2~. MIs. Jardine Henderson Ltd., Calcutta I. Pumps 2. Minillg Machinery 23. MIs. Metal Box CIl. of Innia Ltd., Calcutta Pnnting Machinery 2+. MIs. Bro3ke Bond India Ltd., Calcutta Printing Machinery & Rotogra uvre cylinders 2,5. MIs. Kosan Metal Products Ltd., Bombay Gas cylinders 2'. MIs. Kirloskar Bros. Ltd., P(Jona '27. MIs. Tata Robim Fraser Ltd., Jam~hedpur Mining Machinery ~8. MIs. Chowgule Engg. Co. (Pvt), Ltd., Goa Mining Machinery 2~ MIs. Texmac) Ltd., Ca catta. Capsta 1 Lathes & Tarret Lathes. 38. MIs, Hindustan Motors Ltd., Calcutta • Mt:chanical PrC5l'e'J 31. Mis. Sbri Ram Bearings, Delhi . na I Aa 3'..l. MIs. RaIl. M(tc:!ll.lf!; Ltd., IJdnana Drillja~ m/e & w:YXi workt III m;~chincs 33. MIl. Jay Engg. \\'ollol, "c\\ Delhi Dit" grinders High ,peed not- ching press Gang slitting ml c 3l. M/!I. Helm'lll Climax ~t1'g. (}J) Ltd .. Calcutta Portab'e pn<'umatic toob~ Pn("umatic rotary g. indrr 3. ~f/!t Hharat Sted Tubes Ltd • Odhi . Tube m1.ktng m'\chine ~6. MIs, .·\hm~ctaba(~ M:f~. & Callc J)riutinf( Co. I (d, • PVC;VIR Cab'es AhemedaJ'ad 37. Mis, Aluminium Corporation of India, Calcutta AACIACSR Conchr. 38, 1\1/_. Kenon Mru-lUfacturill~ Co., Bombay • Motor starters & switches 39. M/_. Jardinf" Victor Lto., Cah"utta Gate & h')x(~ 40. MIs. H. L. Malhotra & Sons (1») I.td., C"lcutla Steel files -1'. ~1/". Vidyut Mctallics (P) Ltd., Calcutta Hack-saw bladl's 42. M/'1. lIansa I. c\u'IItrial Tool Co., (P) Ltd. Bombay To·)is bits 43. MIl. G.K.W. LIn., Calcutta I. Prcs<; Tools. Ji~, Fixtures ~. Tun~t("n carbide Rock DriU!· i:\S('~ ts and coal cutters pi en 44, Mis. Greaves Cotton Co •• l.td .• Bomhay Oil ftdd diamond bits NON-ENGINE£1UNG 4S. Mis. Dhargadhra Chemicals Ltd., Bombay Tet"achloroethanc and rdat~d products 46. Mis. J.K. Synth~tjcs Ltd .. Kanpur Nylon Stllph" Film' 47 'M/s Atul Products Ltd • Ahmr.dabad I. Organic PJgm~l1t, Optical Bristhteners. Intermediate .- Fast Colour bases 2. Sulph2 drugs .s. Mis. Colour Chern. Ltd., Bo:nbay Dyes f0T Acrylic Fibres 49 MJs Indian Dyestuff Industfle8 Ltd .• Bombay Dyes for Acry'jc Fibres SO. MIs. Atic Industries, Atul, Bubar Ingrain Dyes 51. Mis. DWllop India Ltd., Calcutta Tread Rubber ~. MIs. Ceat Tyres of India Ltd., Bombay Bicycl(' Tubes 53. MIs. APpollo Tyre.s Ltd., Chalakudi . Auto Tubes 54. Mis. SoIuaiyt' Organics (1) Ltd., BarabaMi Acetaldehyde 55. 'MI" Indi.. Organic ahem. Ltd., lk'>mbay Be,nzadehyde ,56. MIs. Cibatul Ltd., Bubar, Gujarat • Hexaroi):le .5,- ~{/, ~1I~lS Well come Co. Pvt. Ltd., BomM, 161 Written Answers AGRAHAYA.."lA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Written AJUtOC1"I 161 SUPPly of Cement to Kerata (b) .whether the project is goina according to the schedule; and 2298. SHRI SKARIAH THOMAS: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (c) if not, the details thereon pleased to state: (a) the total demand of cement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN sent by Kerala State for the years THE DEPARTMENT OF SCIENCE 1978-79 and 1979-80 year-wise; AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- TRONICS (SHRI C. P. N. SINGH): (b) the total quantity supp:ied dur- (a) and (b). Unit I of the Madras ing the period; Atomic Power Project is expected to be completed. in 1981 and Unit II in (c) whether it is a fact that there 1983; they are expected to be com- is a great demand for cement in missioned in 1982 and 1984 respec- Kerala state and that supply is much tively. The schedules for completion less than the demand; and laid down at the time of sanction ot (d) the steps taken by Govern- the project, were 1973 and 1976 for ment io meet the demand? Unit I and II. respectively. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) The delay has been mainly due THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY to the embargo placed by certain (SHRI CHARANJIT CHAL"lANA): (a) countries on the export of certain The demands of State Governments equipment and materials and prob- for cement are not collected. However, lems and delays faced in indigenously the Government of Kerala have indi- designing and fabricating critical cated recently that their average re- equipment. quirements would be 3 lakh tonnes of cement per quarter. Persons living below poverty line (b) Year Total Qty. supplied 2300. PROF. SATYAGOPAL ('000 tonnes) MISRA: SHRI AMAR ROY PRA- 1978-79 774.6 DHAN: 1979-80 796.8 Will the Minister CYi PLANNING be (c) There is a general scarcity of pleased to state: cement in the country including the State of Kerala. (a) whether it is a fact that about 60 per cent of the total population of (d) Government are making every our country are living below the effort to increase the availability of poverty line even after the 33 years cement in the country by better of independence; utilisation of existing capacities, (b) what are the reasons and who sanctioning new capacities and im- is responsible for this; and ports. (c) what are the remedies? Progress position of Kalpakkam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Atomic Power Project THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI gHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) On 2299. SHRI CHINNASWAMY: Will the basis of the provisional and quick the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to tabulation of the data on household. state: consumer expenditure collected by (a) the present position of the the National Sample Survey Organi- Kalpakkam Atomic Power Project sation in its 32nd round (July 1977 to June 1978) 48.13 per cent of the vis-a-vis the schedule laid down; DICIlKBmR I, 1980 total population of our country is (b) whether Government are wil- estimated to have DeeD livina below ling to meet the dema&ld of the Bidi the poverty line in 1977·78. This workers on national level and compel estimate is derived by using the their employers to iSJue such carda poverty line of Rs. 65 per capita per and if so, details thereof with special month at 1977-78 prices correspond- reference to Bihar? in, to minimum daily calorie require- ment of 2400 per person in rural areas and the poverty line of Rs. 75.00 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE corresponding to calorie requirement MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI p. of 2100 in urban areas. VENKATA REDDY): (a) and (b). The Beedi and Cigar Workers (Con- ditions of Employment) Act, 1966 (b) Shortfalls in the targetted rates uncier which working conditions of elf ,rowth in real income accompanied such workers are regulated is admi- by high rates of population growth nistered by State Governments and are among the major factors responsi- they appoint competent authprities ble for the inability of planning to for the implementation of the Act. make a major dent on poverty. The Act does not specifically provide for the issue of any "service cards" (c) The measures for improving the by employers. However, the Model lot of the poor comprise partly those Beedi and Cigar Workers (Conditions oriented towards the general deve- of Employment) Rules, 1967 framed lopment of the country, viz., develop- by the Central Government which ment of agriculture, industry, power, have been adopted by some of the etc. and partly specific individual State Governments including Bihar beneficiary oriented schemes such as provide inter alia that every emplo- programmes for small and marginal yer shall in respect of employees em- farmers. landless labourers, scheduled ployed in industrial premises, main- castes and scheduled tribes, hill areas, tain a muster roll in prescribed Form etc. In the Sixth Five Year Plan XIlI, and the entries therein shall be (1980-85) further emphasis will be made at the commencement of the laid on these programmes. The Na- work each day. The rules also re- tional Rural Employment Programme quires that the employer shall pro- has been launched which seeks to vide free of cost to each home wor- integrate the development projects ker. log-boOks in prescribed Form with taI\get group oriented employ- XIV and the home worker shall keep ment generation projects. The Gov- a record of the daily work done by ernment also propose to revitalise and him, the number of beedis and cigars implement the 20-Point Programme man ufactured by him and the wages which has come as a boon to the received by him in the said book and poorer sections of society. Further, the the supply of books shall be so minimum needs programme will also arranged that one book remains with be accorded high priority. the home worker at all times during the period between two successive supplies of raw materi~ by the em- late of service eard to bid! workers ployer. 2301. SHRI VlJAY KUMAR YA- The Government of Bihar have fur- DAV: Will the Minister of LABOUR ther amended Bihar Bidi and Cigar be pleased to state: Workers (Conditions of Employment) Act, 1968 in December 1979 and made (a) whether it is a fact that the provision for issuing of service cards worken employed in Bidi Industry to Bidi Workers by their employers do not get service cards; and with 3 days of their employment. 165 WriUen AR6tDft'S AGRAHAYANA 12, 1m (SAKA) Written AftnDe1"S 166 PrIce of Veptables 2303. SHRI P. NAMGYAL: Will the 2302.. SHRlMATI KfUSHNA SAMI: Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to Will tbe\:Minister of INDUSTRY be state: pleased to state: (a) what is the per Kg. freight (a) whether there was a sharp charges of articles airlifted from deterioration in the performance of Chandigarh to Leh; industrial sector in 1979-80; (b) what is the per Kg. cost of fresh vegetables like Cabbage, Cauliflower. (b) whether it is also a fact that as Pot.ato, Carrot, Onion, Radisn, TurniP. against the average annual growth Spinach etc. and fruits like apple and rate of 6.9 per cent the index for April- appricot obtained through the Vege- February of 1979-80 shows a decline of table Marketing Societies in Leh, 0.8 per cent over the same period in Kargil and Nubra etc. for consump... the previous year; and tion of Armed forces; (c) if the answer to above parts be (C) whether Government propose in t!1e affirmative, what are the factors considering increasing the present responsible for this poor performance? rates in view of high cost of cultivation and high freight charges; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (d) if not, the reasons? CHAR&~JIT CHANANA): (a) and (b). According to the latest figures of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE index of industrial production re- MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI leased by the eso, the aver- SHIVRAJ V. PATIl..,); (a) Rs. 2.60 per Kg. at present. age index for 1979-80 was 1.4 per cent lower than in 1978-79; (b) Per Kg. cost of fresh vegetables the average index for April-February and fruits as concluded wit.h the Leh 1979~80 was 1.0 per cent lower than Marketing Society fOr the years 1978, for April-February 1978-79 while the 1979 and 1980-81 and also WIth Market- ing SoCiety, Nubra for the first time average index for April-February from 1st June 1980 to 31st December, 1978-79 was 7.8 per cent hlgher than 1980 are given'in the statement attach- for the same period in the previous ed. No negotiated contract has been year. concluded for procurement of vege- tables/fruit from Kargil Cooperative Marketing Society yet. (c) The most important factors res- ponsible for this decilne in 1979-80 (C) and (d). While carrying out were shortage of power, paucity of negotiated contracts, higb cost of culti- certain critical raW materials, labour vation and high freight charges have unrest and transp 1 Aug.7B I Aug. 79 15 Jul. 80 1 June 80 to to to to 31 Dec. 7P, 3 1 Dec. 7!l 31 Mar. 81 31 Dec. 80 -_ ...._ .• ---- (Rate'> per 100 Kgs) VEGETABLES_FRESH Cabb:lge IS0 00 CauHRower Potato .... Carrot. 143·75 Onl01lS Radbh 'Turnip,; 93·75 Spinach • Peas Green Knol Khol IDO.OO Chinese Wong Buk • Pumpkin Rap Sag IZ,j.OO Lettuce Tomatocs Green 373. 0 :) FRUITS, FRESH Apples Tha 225.00 Applt's 'Mango} 200.00 Appr icot 5 Be8trietlon to State Government Em- ment of Personnel and Administrative ployeee for IleC1I1"1Dc lobs ill Foreign Reforms fOr securing jobs in foreign coaatnes countries; and . 2S04. SHRl N. SELV AJAJU: Will (b) if so, the particulars of Govern- the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be ment orders in this regard? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether there are any special MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS restrictions speeifted by Government (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH): to Government servants of State Gov- (a) No, Sir. ernments to register their names in the Foreign Assignment Section of Depart- (b) Does not arise. 169 Written Answers AGRAHAYlu,\A 12, 1&02. (SAKA) Written Answers' 170 (w) ~ am ~ tf.r' ;yfM~~l ~ UCfi ~ ft ftin: 'flIT ~q" .2305.'SHRI G. M. BA~ATWALLA: ~Tt:J; ~m~? Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS ,.. be pleased to state: ,~ ~.i"if i{ ~~ qr (~1 (a) whether any publication was 1f11T.- ~~) : (ifi)' ~~ ~,:q;:n banned or confiscated in Delhi during ~ Wtm1:" ;:rem "1 q I ~l ~ «lflf ~tl the past four months; ..:> ~I mnT,~, ~~, ~ (b) if so, the names of the publica- ~, q~, U~~, o~C\' tions and the languages in which these f~TT' ~ ~m ~iR ~T were published; and i:f ~;lf ~ I (c) the nature of action taken and the ~eaons therefor? (~) ~ ~i' f~f~ if; srfu" THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ~ f1 vitT 'i 'H '1 ::t I f(flif eft fffu:.. Ml~ISTR Y OF HOME AFFAIRS fqf~~:r 'it ~ ~ w ~ ~' (SHR! YOGENDHA MAKWANA): ~q tjf~ur;-f ii' c!ffit I"r;lf (a) Yes, Sir. qir ~'ffl7.fi ir. f~~ ~," ii f;nir;:r (b) and (c). (1) The following pub- ~~T «.r mT ~ I lications were banned:- 0) Urdu weekly "Hajoom" dated l\1.L.As gheraoed in Assam Aglation 26-9-80; (ii) Urdu weekly "Dawat"; and 2307. SHnI NGANGOM MOHEN- (iii) Untitled Urdu booklet about DRA: Will the Minister of HOlME Moradabad incidents printed by AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Syed Abdullah Bukhari. (a) whether it is a fact that MLAs II. Copies of the August 23-29, 1980 in Assam are being gheraoed in and issue of Hindi weekly "AsU Bharat" the agitation led by All Assam and plates containing the pUblishing Students Union and the All Assam material were seized; and the Manager -; ana Sangram Parishad is going on. and Production Manager of the R. C. Press, Jhilmil Industrial Area arrested. (b) if so, the details thereof; and In. The publications contained (c) the steps taken or being taken material prejudicial to maintenance of to settle the issues by talks? pubilc peace and order. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b). The All Assam Students 2306. IllT ~~tr ~: W~ Union and All Assam Gana Sangram mrr ~ erm ~ !itIT ~ fCfi: Parishad are continuing the acitation (if)) cffilfR ~ it ijiHH'IqlGI and have started a programme of gh.erao of MLAs in Assam from 28th 1. it fcfiI-fcEi;r 1fl1ft it ~ ~ ; October, 1980. The perao is continu- .m ing at some places. , 171 (C) Several I'OUII4s of tallu' haft mari1,. civilian oftleera, cannot be been held at varioua level, on the treated on par with cvmmiMkJnecl forelpera issue in Aaam but no otfteen of the Defence Services. agreed understandin, has emerged. Government has kept its doOrs open for talks and it fa hoped that saner' coUDMls will eventually prevail amongst the agitators. 2309. ,,' titl1l'ml "nfij : ifqJ 'It 'Ifii ~ ~ ~t tm -.r~ Ai : P..... by NCO Part Ttme COIIUD.Is- R;: -aect otIlCen trom. MlI1taIT C ...... (~) ~ ~;fi'R: ifiT ~ ~tf 2308. SHRI JAMBUWANT DHOTE: tnif ttl ~ it ~ ~ ~~ Will the Minister ot DEFENCE be ~ fir?! fc:e ft:p:fi ~ iffr m ~ pleaaed to state: 111fT ~ ~1't m (f, m- A ~ (a) whether a part time Commis- if ~ rrn ~ tfil4qli{) ~ sioned Officer working in Senior Secon- .r W t; dary Schools, is authorised to pur- chase all types of stores trom Military (.) ~, 1980 it ~ ~ Canteens: ~, 1980 ffCfi ~l.~ ~ (b) if so, whether he is also autho- ~ tfifi ~ ~ it;mr em rised to buy liquor, imported items ~ ~ ~ m~ .1tf .,_ if 'aW q1 (,,' ~,,, ....,): {1fi} ~~ 1m ~ 'a1I11r ~ ~ fiR" 2310. ,,1 fn:i~ ,w"~'1::: 3RT 1lit 4114ifil-1 ~ it 3ft ~ ~ 'n£i'f lj ii ~ ~ tf.r F1T rn ~ ~ ~ 1984-85 ~ N: 372. 6 ~ 1ft'o !;If ~ ~ ~~~I (;r;-) ~ ~R ~ if; ~ ~ if'hit *t lIi'tr em- p;rr;f it ~ (~) ~ ~ ;rir ifil<.,." ~ ~~.~ q;rqqm ~ If ~ ~ m it ~ ~ fif;it 1tit • "'c:;, ... / ...... :::.~ ~ if;' ~ it ~ ~ 1 2 3 4 \4f~~liill~ Wtrsmr 2. -~- ~~ -~- 3. -~- 4'U 4j·fH1i -~- 4. -~- ~ ~smr 5. -~- \4Cf1~d<1 -~- 6. -~- ~ fw;fr ~ ~ 7. ~o ~ *0 ~~ ft;r" ~ i3f'RJ.~~ 8. -~- f7in -~- 9. 4'olft'o CflI 11. -~- ~ -~- 12. ~ ~t~4i?1 s'4{1Qila ~~ ij.jZi 1'41l ~ 13. ~~~mft;ro,~ ~ ~~ 14. 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Ti'iT ~ fiTQ ~'11 {41i64 l1f.Zf ~ 58. ~~T~f..'fo i1W=rCfT 9AFU m- 59. ~1::r~ ~ 9AFU~ 00 ...... fu 60. ~ ,0 erzyr.. ;ft WU~ 61. ~~rrr~Ro '1 F1"i1~t wU'm 62. ~~f'1o ~ 'ATrUm 63. sair Jftrm' -i "rf.. ff~l Ii r.r~ ft~ reply given to part (C) of Unstarred Question No. 6963 On the 6th August, • "T~ 1980 re,arding rejection of review 2311. tif 91'fllri ~ : if1.ff petition filed by Delhi Municipal Cor- poration and state: 2if1Pll 11111 ~ ~ ait !i'tT ~ fafi : (a) whether the framing of assess.- (11\) lflfT ~ ~ 'fff441'i11 ments of property tax on the basis of m t. ,"f«qlf~41 if." ~ ~ standard rent haVe been completed it fr:ttt ~ ~ ~ ~1Tf ~ ; and notified by the Municipal Corpora- tion of Delhi; (_) m ~, (1) ~m Olfm (b) if not, when it is likely to be !fln t ; 'f~ completed and notified; (;r) "31Ff 'linm it. ~ f~ (c) whether the Municipal Corpora- 'Ufu 'f~ rn CfiT ~ t ? tion of Delhi have served bills in res- pect of property tax on assessees on '(¥C 1trl4""~ q ~ tf?f; (~t the basis of the assessment list authen- ~ .'0 qrf~) : (Cfi) ~ ~ ticated on the 9th July, 1980; and CuPtctlqr ~t if mf~ Cf.i' rlT ( d) whether a petition has been ~~ ~~ ~ ~ f~ ~T?for. fLied ,in the Supreme Court by ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~1 cf.t 4li~1 assessee against the demand in respect of property tax for the year 1980-81 \II 'Hi'iQ I ~ w4T Cf111 it. f~ '"IN- made on him by the corporation on the basis of the assessment list authen- ~ ~ if; J;fq;pr (fiT ~ gtf ticated On the 9th July, 1980? m;rr if: ~ ~ f~ ~ qA- $) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE it IT ~ I ~ ~ ~ m- MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ~ ffqf 'r§~ ~ lfRT~ ~, (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK:Wfu""iA): J~ ;m:~J, '1f~ ~,mf~ (a) and ( b). The Municipal Cor- ifIf~, w{ it. m ~ ef,t ~R poration of Delhi has intimated that >~ ~ ~ fcfi'u: ~ qffl ~ the assessment of properties for Pro- perty Taxes is being made on the ~ ~ CfiPt~ ~~ f~ basis of standard rent under Section 6 ~ it. ~ ,~ if 'ilf«ql*11 of the Delhi Rent Control Act, where m 1ft ~~TiTI ~ m~) the cost of land and cost of construc- it; ~ ~ ~ f~ tion have been correctly given by the ~ cf.t qn;rr , assessees or is otherwiSe ascertainable ~')lf' ~ iffr ~ ~T ~ I by the Department itseU, failing which resort is being made to Section 9 of (v) ~~~~I the Delhi Rent Control Act, for deter.. mining the annual value of the pro- ~ ~ ~ ~'ffi (11") I perty. The pending cases under Sec- tion 6 are being decided regularly. However, keeping in view the work load and the quasi-judicial nature of 2312. SHRl CHANDRA PAL these decisions, time is required for SHAILANI: their disposal. Efforts are, however, DR. A. U. AZMI: being made to dispose of the maximum number of cases by the assessing Will the Minister of HOME officers. Assessment under Section 1M .AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the Of the DYC Act, 195'1 were duly com- pleted before the authentication of the per cent on the basis of results of assessment list for the year 19~1. limited departmental examination. (C) Yes, Sir. (c) Does not arise. (d) The Municipal Corporation of Delhi has stated that no petition was MismaDapment of BeDpl POUeriea tiled by any assessee against the Ucl. CalC1lUa demaDd of Property Tax pertaining to year 1980-81 on the basis of the 2314. SHR.l INDERJIT GUPl'A: Will assessment list authenticated on the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased 9-7-1980. to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the Pl'OIIlotioD Av_u.es for Grade Ie" Bengal Potteries Ltd. Calcutta is not Steaocnpbers being managed properly even after its 2313. SHRI R. S. MANE: Will the take-over by I.R.C.I.; Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) whether any inquiry has been made into serious allegations against (a) whether it is a fact that there is the present management of inflated an acute stagnation in Central Steno- production and sales figures, sub- graphers Service and there are meagre standard manufacture of insulators, promotional avenues for Gr. 'C' Steno- nepotism in appointment of d!;Jtribu- 'graphers even after putting in twenty tors, lack of ceramics know-how, and years service; labour practices; etc., and (b) whether it is also a fact that ( c) the total amount of financial most of the Gr. 'B' vacancies are being assistance rendered to the company filled on the basis of uPSC Examina- since its take-over? :ion in complete diSregard to the inte- rests of senior employees which has further aggravated the sit~3Lon; a::::! THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MI!'.'1:STRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRl (c) if so, what steps Government CHARA..~JIT CHANANA): (a) No, proposed to take in this regard? Sir. The performance of the company THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has generally shown an improvement. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH): (a) (b) 1.R.C.I. have reported that the There was some stagnation in Grade Board of Management had looked into 'C' of Central Secretariat Stenogra- the complaint dated 13-11-1979, of the ph~s Serv~e but the pOsition has im- Bengal Potteries Workers and Staft' prOved considerably beCaUSe a Selec- Committee making various alle'gations tion Grade has been sanctioned for this against the Management and came to category. Apart frarn. this, Grade the conclusion that there was no su~ "C' Stenogra~ with requisite length stance in these allegations. ~f serviCe have been permitted to apJ)ea!' .in the Limited Departmental (c) A sum of RB. 127 lakhs has been Competitive Examination, for promo- disbursed out of Rs. 141.70 lakhs ·"tion as S.O~!Gr.. 'B' of the CSSS. sanctioned by meL In addition IRCt . ~ has provided diesel generating sets (b) No, Sir. T4e,~ies in Grade valued at Rs. 23 30 lakhs on hire <:V of Central. Secretariat Stenogra- purchase. AssistanCe for two more .~ ~ are filled 50 per cent diesel generating sets costing Rs. 18.29 ~ ,p~tiop on. the basis o.t seniority ,iakhs have been sanctioned by met 'subject to'rejection of UD!fit alld 50 recently. Written Answer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 184 ~1 .-1 """;ft i f"~ 11~ vh: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE .. DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE AND ~ mtii if .) fqf(J, ~~ f~ Ifn TECH':--;OLOGY AND ELECTRONICS ~ (SHRI C. P. N. SINGH): (a) to (c) The Report of the High Powered Com- 2315. ·"ii q~i'mf ~~O .1U{; mittee to recommend legislative mea- 1f1fT \Ai i 'T # osi .. ~ ~ cf.t tm THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The main thesis of the article DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE AND is that stock witnesses are produced TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRONICS by the police to get convictions of (SHRI C. P. N. SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. persons. It has been further stated that every police official, every Magis- (b) Some development projects trate, and every lawyer knows that have been taken up concerning the such stock witnesses are routinely pro- use of alcohol as an energy source by duced to testify to the allegations and scientific and engineering institutions that in some cases the police has cir- sUch as IlTs (Madras and Delhi), Anna culated lists of stock witnesses and has Uni versity, Madras, lIP. Dehradun and advised the officials in effect, that as Research Wing of Indian Oil Corpora- thoSe listed as stock witnesses have tion. been produced too often in the recent past, services of others should be avail- (c) While alcohol can be used as a ed of. fuel for transportation purposes, and sufficient work has already been done, ( c) The information is being collec- in India also. to demonstrate this, it ted from the Union Territory of Delhi must be emphasised that alcohol is and -the State Governments of Maha- even more important as an input for rashtra. Tamil Nadu and West Bengal. the chemical industry the latter should (d) Witnesses are produced in be able to absorb all the alcohol pro- duced and thereby reduce the pressure Courts in accordance with the proce- On oil based inputs. The problem is dure laid down in the relevant statu- tes. However, the police have issued to produce sufficient alcoho1. As pre- sent the main source for alcohol prO. jn~tructjons that the practice of using duction is sugarcane: other possibili ... stork \\'itm:sses, if any, ~~hould be im- mfdiately stopped and an~' instance of ties as sources are tapioca, Cassava violation of theSe instructions would etc. However, work is al!"o in pro- gress to use a wider range of biomass b~ severely dealt with. input" for alcohol production, When akoh~)l production is enhanced suffi- t_rse of Alcohol as Energy Source ciently, then it can be used as feed- ~318. SHRI R. K. MHALGt: Will stock and if necessary also as fuel. the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECH- :\OLOGY be pleased to state: (d) Since the technical know-how is available indigenously, no need has (a) whether Government have bee'1 felt to borrow it from Brazil or nOTiced the report published in the any other country. Also there is sum- 'Statesman', New Delhi, dated 26th c!ent exchange of scientists and infor- September. 1980 under the caption mation with various countries in this "Brazil making use of Boheld Solar area ae; on other area of Science and Energy"; Technology. (b) whether there is any develop- ment project in public or private sector Complaints reo apJ)6intment 01 in India to make use of Alcohol as Liaison Officer, Coir Board energy source; 2319. SHRI E. BALANANDAN: . (c) if yes, when the scheme will Vlill the Minister of INDUSTRY be be commercially launched in India; pleased to state: and (a) whether any complaints have (d) if not, whether Government been received regarding the appoint- propose considering borrowing tech- ment of Liaison Officer, Coir Board nical know-how from Brazil"! during early 1979 at Delhi; DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AflB'C,Der. 18S (b) if so, what action bas been (a) whether any enquiry has been taken.; made into the allegations against the Chairman, Coir Board; (C) whether any undUe favour bas been shown in this appointment; (b) if so, whether any prima facie (d) whether the Coir Board meet- case bas been established; and in8 held on 22nd November, 1979 ( c ) whether action has been taken commented on the working of the to book the persons concerned? Liaison Officer; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (C) if so, what action is taken on THE MINISTRY OF !NDUSTRY these comments; (SHRI CHAR&~JIT CHANANA): ( a) to ( c) . A preliminary enquiry U) whether proper publicity has conducted into the allegations has been given the time of recruitment at established prima facie that the to this senior post through press etc. Chairman had incurred unauthorised as prescri bed in the Coir Board expenditure during participation in a lrecruitment by-laws; and fair and had sometimes used the staff (g) if not, what action has been car of the Board for unautho.rised taken to book the person responsible purposes. Further action on the find- for this? ings has been initiated. THE MI:'HSTER OF STATE IN SimplificatiOn (If procedure reo Pension THE MINISTRY OF !NDUSTRY to Freedom Fighters (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) Yes, Sir. 2321. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE (b) The complaints were looked PATIL: \Vill the Minister of HOME into by Government. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) No, Sir. (a) whether it is a fact that Gov- ed) No Coi r Board meeting was enlment propose to simplyfy the pro- held on 22nd November, 1979. A ced :.1fe of grant of pensions to free- special meeting was held on 24th dom fighters; and November when some Members were (b) if so, the categories of freedom critical about the functioning of the fighters being brought under the Liaison Officer and the Board had revised scheme? resolved that the present post of Liaison Officer shou~d be upgraded. THE MINISTER OF STATE !N After careful consideration the Min- THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS istry of Industry decided that such (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): upgradation was not warranted. (a) The Freedom Fighter Pension (e) Does not arise. S-::heme has already been liberalised and t};e procedure simplified with (f) According to the recruitment effe:: from 1-8-1980. Announcements rules, the post was not required to to that effect were made in both the be publicised through the press and Houses of Parliament in July, 1980. hence it was not advertised in any newspaper. ( b) The liberalised pension scheme, inter-alia provides for:- (g) Does not arise. (a) removal of annual income ceiling fOr all categories of freedom Inquiry made apiDst aUeption of the fighters thereby eliminating the require~ent Coir Board Chairman of verification of in- come. 2320. SHRI E. BALANANDAN: (b) enhancement of pension from Will the Minister of INDUSTR,Y be Rs. 2001- to Rs. 3001- p.m. in respect please« to state: of lying freedom fighters and from 119 Written AftStOer. AGRAHAYANA 12. 1m (SAKA) WTittm AM1Der. If)f:/' Ba. 100/· to Rs. 2001- p.m. in regard Paper aad Paper Board MaDafactarba.. to widows with an additional provi- Ullita sion of Rs. 501: each for the un- married daughters subject to over- ., 2322. SHRI AMARSINH RATHA- aU ceiling of Rs. 300/- p.m. (all WA: Will the Minister of INDUS.. Accountants General haVe been TRY be pleaSed to state: asked to issue revised Pension Payment Orders at new rates to (a) the number of units manufac- the existing pensioners); turing paper and paper board func- tioning in India during 1976, 1977. 1978 and 1979 with their annual pro- (C) reduction of the qualifying duction; period of suffering from six months to three months in case of women (b) the number of new licences freedom fighters and those belong- issued fOr opening new units during ing to Scheduled Castes/Scheduled the year 1980 with their production; Tribes for eligibility to Central ( c ) whether the production of Pension; paper and paper board is on increase year by year; and (d) extension of the last date for td) if so, what are the main rea- applying under revised scheme for sons for its shortage? all categories of freedom fighters upto 31-7-1981; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (e) acceptance of certificates in rE:.spe:::t of underground freedom (a) The number of units manufac- turing paper and paper board, and fighters from the personal know~ ledge of prominent freedom figh- their annual production durini the ters who had themselves undergone years 1976, 1977 1978 and 1979 is as imprisonment for a period of more follows:- ' than five years in the event of their inability to produce evidence from :'\ Ulllbt'r }'roducti('n of LJlih (iakh official records due to various rea- tl)1UIf'!» sons. ------_ ..... -,._. ---- ...... 2. The facility of drawal of pension I!JI;~ 75 a.go thlo'...lgh Public Sector Banks has been 6 provided with effect from 1-8-1980. 1~-;7 7:> 9.3 :) J~riB Ut; Jo.o6 3. A new application proforma has '979 106 JO·4i been prescribed which inter-alia, seeks to ensure furnishing of full information in complete and accept- (b) Eleven industrial licences have abl~ form, so as to avoid repetetive been issued during the year 1980 references for clarifications. (till 31-10-80) for setting up new undertakings for the manufacture of paper and p~per board. None of the 4. To ensure speedy verification of units have commenced production. the claims of suffering, the State Governments and U.T. Administra- (C) and (d). Although there has tions have been requested to open been a steady growth of production Special CelIs and appoint Special over the last few years, the increase Officers. They haVe been further in production has not kept pace with requested to give wide publicity to the demand, and there is a marginal tl;le new Scheme. shortfall. 191 Written Answer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AnsweT, 192 Bepert Of Eavil"ODJDeD. ..., Pr'OteeU- 3. The functions of the DOE will Committee include: 2323. SHRI LAKSHMAN MAL- (a) Serving as a 'nodal' agency LICK: Will the Minister of SCIENCE for environmental protection and AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to eco-development in a Coordinating state: role. (a) whether it is a fact that the (b) Carrying out environmental environmental protection committee appraisal of development projects, set up by Government has submitted its report; and and (b) if so, the details thereof? (C) Direct administrative respon~ sibility fOr Pollution Monitoring THE MIN!STER OF STATE IN and Regulation. Conservation of THE DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE Critical Ecosystems and Biosphere AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- Reserves Management and Conser- TRONICS (SHRI C. p. N. SINGH): vation of Marine Ecosyst€ms. (a) Yes, Sir. The report was sub- ll'litted to the Prime Minister on Sep- 4. The Report also outlines the tember, 15, 1980. roles of the various Ministries I Departments of the Central and the (b) The Committee has made 21 State Governments, the Planning recommendations under the follo\v- Commission Scientific and Research ing two categories: Institutions' and non-Government organisations in the field of environ4 I. Administrative Measures for mental protection. Environm~ntal EnVIronmental Protection; and Advisers created in the Ministries and Departments of the Govt. will !I. Legislative Measures for En- have a relationship to the DOE simi- vironmental Protection. lar to the that of Financial Advisers and the Ministry of Finance. DOE The salient recommendations of the should have an environmental Moni- Committee are 8S follows: toring Intelligence and Early Warm- ing System, a Legal Wing to review I. Administrative Measures for on continuing and systematic basis Environmental Protection. environmental legislation and recom- mend a central Land Commission 1. A Department of the Environ- (CLC) to serve as policy planning ment (DOE) should be created at the agency for i!"sues related t; the health Centre immediately to provide expli- and scientific management of land cit recognition to the pivotal role that resources, a National Committee on environmental conservation must Environmental Planning (NCEP) play for sustainable national deve- fOr environmental policy matters and lopment. to provide planning and advisory in- put to DOE and other Central and 2. The DOE should be under the State agencies. charge of Prime Minister and pri- marily play a 'watchdog' role to 5. A Cabinet Committee on Envi- study and bring to the attentio'n of ronment under the Chairmanship 01 Government and Parliament instan- the Prime Minister to lay down poli- ces, causes and consequences ot cies and review progress of environ- ~nvironmental degradation in all sec- mental protection in the country has tors. also been recommended. In State 193 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written AM1DeT' 194 Governments, appropriate adminis- nation for Senior P.A. (Stenograph.r trative departments should be desig- Gr. I) which is just one step above nated, to look after the planning and in hierarchy; coordinating functions related to en- (b) if so, the reasons therefor? vironmental protection, and strong technical support should be provided THE MINISTER OF STATE !N to the concerned department. The THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Committee has strongly emphasised (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBA!AH) : the need for identifying Biosphere (a) and (b). The Limited Depart- reserves and appropriate management mental Competitive Examination for of such reserves and also recommend- promotion to the Section Offk:ersJ ed the training of environmental Grade B of Central Secretariat Steno- managers. The committee has also graphers Service provides an avenue recommended measures to promote for junior officers to get accelerated environmental education. promotion over their seniors in the normal line of promotion by seniori- II. Legislative Measures for En- ty. To ensure that only really meri- vironmental Protection. torious and professionally competent persons get the promotion, it is neces- 1. A National Environmental Policy sary to have the test in stenography. Resolution should be adopted. The Since they are attached to senior Committee has recommended a Draft officers after promotion, it is neces- Policy Resolution. sary to test that they continue to be technically and professionally com- 2. The Committee has identified areas fOr review of Central and State petent. legislation and suggested areas where Stenographers in AFHQ new legislation is needed. 2325. SHRI T. S. NEGI: Will the 3. The Committee has recommended Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to that a new subject "Environmental state: Protection" should be included in the Concurrent List of the Seventh Sche- (a) whether it is a fact that Steno- dule of the Indian Constitution. graphers who have joined service as far back as 1964 as Stenographer 4. The Committee has also recom- Grade II have not been given Selec- mended legislative measures or exe- tion Grade in AFHQ whereas their cutive action to curb degradation of counterparts in Ministry of Defence the environment from uncontrolled of the same seniority have already commercial interests and On account got the grade; and of short-term profit motives and tbe inclusion of fuel and fedder supply (b) do Government propose to take in the minimum need programmes of remedial measure to give Selection the Central Government. Grade to all Stenographers Grade n who have put in 14 years service in PasslD&' SeeODd Test by stenographers the same grade? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 2324. SHRI T. S. NEG!: Will the MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SH& Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) No Sir. pleased to state: The Stenographers Grade II appoint. (a) whether stenographers who ed in Ministry of Defence upto 31st have already completed ,qualified the December, 62 have been appointed shorthand test of U.P.S.C. at the time to SelectiOn Grade against regular 01 recruitment, are again required to vacancies. Some more Stenographer. pass the test after clearing the Limit. Grade!.J appointed in Ministry of ed Departmental Competitive Exami· Defence during the period frOID 195 Written Answers DECEMBER 3, 1980 1-1-63 to February, 65 have been (C) Government have set up a Spe. appointed to Selection Grade against cial Cell in the Staff Selection Com- short term vacancies. _ mission to carry out special recruit- ments of the Scheduled Castes and All the Stenographers Grade II of Scheduled Tribes candidates. The AFHQ Stenographers' Service except Cell is conducting examinations to 38, who have been appointed in 1964, fill vacancies which are carried for- have been given Selection Grade. ward as well as new vacancies which (b) No Sir. There is nO such pro- may have arisen. posal at present. However, a demand of the Staff side in the Departmental Price of Application Forms prescribed Council (JCM) ot Department of by Recruiting Commis.:1ons Personnel and Administrative Re- 2327. SHR! R. K.. MHALGI: Will forms to grant selection grade auto- the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be matically on completion of 14 years pleased to state: service, has been referred to a com- mittee of the Departmental Council, (a) what are the prices of ~ppnca for consideration. tion forms for employment prescribed by various recruiting commissions or Beservation of posts for Scheduled boards of Central Government; and Caste/Scheduled Tribe (b) whether Government propose 2326. SHRIMATI SANYOGITA to reduce the prices of the applica- RANE: Will the Minister of HOME tion forms to a nominal taking into AFFAIRS be pleased to state: consideration that those fOQIls are to be sold to unemployed persons to (a) whether it is a fact that the whom it is very hard to pay the cost? Staff Selection Commission had pro- duced conclusions that SC and ST THE MINISTER OF STATE !N candidates were not coming forward THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS in adequate number fOr various posts (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBA!AH): reserved for these comftlunities; (a) and (b). The price of application forms prescribed by the variOUs ~ (b) if so, the details thereof; and cruiting Commissions of Central Gov- (c) the steps the Government pro- ernment is as under:- pose to take to attract more Schedul- Union Public Service Commission: ed Caste and Scheduled Tribe candi- dates to jobs reserved for them? Rs. 2/- per form. In posts filled on the basis of selection by interview THE MINISTER OF STATE !N the blank application form is supplied THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS free of charge against request. In (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBA!AH) : (,'iSe of Civil Services (Preliminary) (a) Certain shortfall had been notic- F-xaminations, there is nO separate ed by the Staff Selection Commission application form. and the candidates in filling up the vacancies reserved are allOWed to apply in the required for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled format on blank paper. In the Civil Tribes, which included unfilled Services (Main) Examinations a reserved vacancies that existed before detailed application form is supplied setting up of the Commission. and no separate charge is charged from the candidates. (b) The unfilled vacancies comput- ed as on 1-1-1979 were approximately Sta.ff Selection Commission: 2500 for Scheduled Castes and 2300 for Scheduled Tribes in various cate- Paise 10 per form. The candidates gories for which recruitment is made are also permitted to apply on plain by the Staff Selection Commission. paper. 197 Written Aft81De1's AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) WrittC'l .1 ",;wers 198 Railway Public Service Commission: is being processed. Oii incltmron o! these posts in the Indian Statistical Rs. 2/- per form (Paise 50 1- for Service, the incumbents will be con... Scheduled Castes and Scheduled sidered for appointment to the Ser.. Tribes) . vire as per provisions laid down in There is no proposal under consi- the Indian Statistical Service Rules. deration of the Government to reduce the price of application forms as the (b) and (c). The Indian Statistical existing price is very nominal. Service was constituted by pooling together posts, carrying statistical Inclusion of ex-Catlre Posts of Re- functions under the various Minis.. search Officers in Grade IV of Indian tries jDepartments, offered for en- Statistical Service cadrement at the time of initial con- 2328. SHRI R. L. BHATIA: Will the stitution. Certain Ministries/Depart. Minister of Home AFFAIRS be ments did not initially parttcfpale in plea~ed to state: the Service. A few other Ministriesl Departments did not offer all such (a) whether a number of ex-cadre posts for encadrement in the service. posts of Research Officers in the Subsequently, these Ministries/ Ministries of Planning and Health Departments agreed to participate which were earlier filled up by lay- in the Service. The Ministries} ing down certain specific qualifica- Departments which had earlier offer- tions from 1970-71 onwards are noW ed posts for encadrement offered few being included in Grade IV of the more posts for inclusion In the Ser- Indian Statistical Service alongwith vice. This contingency was not the incumbents holding them; envisaged at the time of initial con- stitution. Therefore, in order to en- (b) whether the Rules framed at able em::adrement of such posts, the the initial recruitment to Grade IV Indian Statistical Service Rules were of the Indian Statistical Service do amended in consultation with the not stipulate such preferent1al treat- Union Public Service Commission. ment being given to such persons; Provisions had also to be made in and the Rules to provide for inclusion of (C) if so, the considerations which the regular incumbents of such posts have weighed with the Government in the Service after due screening. in taking such a step which is detri- The feeder post holders who are mental to the feeder post-holders already officiating against Grade IV W:10 afe officiating against Grade IV vacancies of the Indian Statistical vacancies of the Indian Statistical Service cannot be considered for Service since 1968-69? posts referred to in reply to Part (a) abOVe as these posts are outside the THE MINISTER OF STATE !N regular line of promotion for them. THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Even otherwise, these posts have (SHRI P. VENKATASUBBA!AH): already been filled on a regular basis (a) No proposal from the Ministry 01 by the Ministry of Health and Family Planning to encadre the posts of Welfare through the Union Public Research Officers in Grade IV of the Service Commission and are not Indian Statistical Service is pending vacant. The Indian Statistical Ser- in the Ministry. However, a proposal vice Rules provide for filling of 25% has been received from the Ministry of vacanices in Grade IV of the Ser- of Health and Family Welfare to vice by promotion of feeder post encadre nine posts of Research holders. Any accretion to the Ser- Officer IAnalyst IStatistician in the vice by way of fresh encadremen.t scale of Rs. 700-1300 in Grade IV of enlarges its strength. _ Thus, inclu- the Indian Statistical ServiCe and it sion of additional posts in Grade IV 199 Written AnsweTB DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AnsWer, 200 will in<:rease the number of posts Shorta,e of Cement ill PaDjab available for promotion to the feeder 2330. SHRI R. L BHATIA: Will the post holders and thereby improving Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to their chanees ot promotion. 1t will state: not, therefore. be in order to say that the inclusion of fresh posts in the (a) whether there is an acute scar- Service is detrimental to the interests city of cement in Punjab; of 'feeder post holders. (b) if so, the steps which he pro- poses to take to rush supplies to that MeeUng lor Retention Price of Cement State; and 2329. SHR! R. L. BHATIA· Will (c) the yard-stick laid down for the Minister of INDUSTRY be'pleased supplying cement to the various to state: States? (a) whether the Cement Manufac- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN turers' Association has recently ap- THE MINISTRY OF INDUS'lRY proached him for an increase in the (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA) : retention price of 'cement'; (a) There is a general scarcity of cement in the country including Pun- (b) if so, the grounds advanced by jab. them in support of this; ( b) Every effort is being made to (c) what is the margin of profit at step up supplies of cement to Punjab present made by the Cement units in State to the extent possible. the private vis-a-vis public sector; and (c) No specific yard-sticks have been laid dOWn for supplying cement (d ) Government's reaction to the to various states vis-a-vis allocations. increase in retention price of cement? Instructions exist to the effect that what ever quantity has been allocated THE MINISTER OF STATE IN should be supplied to the States. THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Nationalisation of Gourepore contain- (,SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA) : (a), (b) and (d). The retention prices ers and Closures Limited were revised and re-fixed with effect 2331. SHRI M. ISMAIL: Will the from 3rd May, 1980. The Cement Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Manufacturers' Association have re- state: presented that the increase allowed (a) the latest position in regard to is inadequate and does not fUlly cover the question of nationalisation of the cost escalations which have taken Gourepore Containers and Closures place. This representation is being Limited of West Bengal; examined. (b) whether Government have re- (c) Information on profit/loss in ceived suggestion for amalgamation respect of various factories is not of this unit with good Government available. However, working results owned organisation, if immedite na- of the Cement Corporation of India tionalisation is not possible; and for the last three years are as follows: (c) the reaction of the Government Year Profit/Loss to the proposal mentioned at (b)? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (Rs. in lakhs) THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY 1977-78 (-) 98.31 (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): 197879 (-) 82.46 (a) to (c). The nationalisation of Containers and Closures Limited, 1979-80 <+) 109.55 ------Calcutta is not being contemplated at 201 Written AnatDerB AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written. AnatOers 202 present. However, of the several op- (3) He will go into the question tions the possibility of merger/amal- of the directives issued in the con- gamation of the company with a large cluding portion of Sunil Batra's public sector company having modern case (W.P. 1009/79) with a view to organisational set up for giving it an ascertain whether these directions integrated management support is be- haVe been substantially compiled ing explored. with and to the extent there is shortfall or default whether there Inquiry into vices in Tihar Jail, Delhi is any reasonable explanation therefore. 2332. SHRr BHIKU RAM JAIN: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS (4) Being a visitor of the jail, it be pleased to state: is part of his visitorial functions for the Sessions Judge to acquaint him- (a) whether it is a fact that the self with the condition of tension, Supreme Court had ordered an enquiry vice and violence and prisoners' into the vices prevailing in the Tihar, grievances. He will take this oppor- Jail, nelhi; tunlty to enquire into these aspects (b) if so, the scope of the enquiry; also with a view to suggest reme- dial action. (c) whether any interim report has been received in this regard; and The result of this investigation will be crystalised in the shape of find- (d) if so, the details thereof? ings, followed by specific instructions with a view to see that the petitioner THE MINISTER OF STATE IN and others like him are not burdened THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- by additional acerbities and harsher FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- pressures than a legal sentence of WANA): (a) to (d). The Supreme rigorous imprisonment geared to re- Court had passed orders on 30-4-1980 formation and intended for deterrence by way of its judgment on a Writ necessarily impiled. The Sessions Petition filed by a convict lodged in Judge will also give a specific time the Central Jail, Tihar that the to the jail authorities, for carryin, District and Sessions Judge Delhi will out his directives, and after the pe- hold an open enquiry into the allega- riod for compliance is over, will make tions of corruption etc., prevailing in a fresh visit to verify whether these the Tihar Jail. The relevant direc- mandates have been fulfilled. In the tions of the Supreme Court read as event of non-fulfilment, a report will under:- be made to this Court before septem- " (1) The District and Sessions ber 30, 1980 whereupon appropriate Judge, Delhi will, within three action to enforce compliance will be months trom today, hold an open taken by this Court in its jurisdiC- enquiry within the jail premises, tion." into the allegations contained in 2. The enquiry is still in progress. the petition of the prisoner Kaushik No interim report has been submitted and in the report submitted to this by the District and Session Judge, Court by Advocate Shri Subodh Delhi. Karkandeya. BecoD8tructioD of Colr Board (2) He will further enquire, with 2333. SHRI E. BALANANDAN: specific reference to the charges, Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be of personal assault and compulsion pleased to state: for collaboration in canteen swin- dle and other vices made by the (a) whether it is a fact that the prisoners against the superinten- Coir Board is functioning without a dent and the Deputy Superinten- Board of Directors for the last eiIht dent. months; and DECEMBER 3, 1980 (b) il 80, what is the delay in the (c) The matter is still under consi- reconstitution of the Board? deration and the final decision is likely to be arrived at soon. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Report of Import Substitute Committee (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) Yes, Sir. 2336. SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: Will t.he Minister of IJ:\I"1)USTRY be pleased (b) The term of the Coir Board to state; expired on 4th February, 1980. The reconstitution of the Board is under (a) whether the Import Substitution active consideration of the Govern- Committee has since submitted its ment. report; if so, when and the action taken or proposed to be taken on some Amount allotted. to Colr Board of the major recommendations made by it; 2334. SHRI E. BALAN ANDAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (b) when was the Committee set up pleased to state: originally and how many times its life was extended and the total expendi- (a) what is the total amount ear- ture incurred on it in the form of sal- marked by the Government of India aries and allowances of Chairman and for the COiT Industry to be spent Members: their TA/DA, Secretariat; through Coir Board during the finan- staff cars, etc., cial year 1980-81; and (c) whether the Committee's (b) what is the total utilisation Chairman and mpmbers were given during the half year ending 30th facilities like use of staff cars, Gov- September, 1980? ernment accommooation etc. if so, the THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN details thereof; and THE MTNISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SRRI CHARAN.TIT CHAN ANA) : (d) whether the Committee are now functions officio or its life has (8) Rs. 140.75 lakhs. been further extended: if so, the (b) Rs. 20.47 lakhs. reasons and for how long? THE DEPUTY MINrSTER IN THE Transfer of CSS o.mcers Of selection MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI P. . Grade and Directors A. SANGMA): (a) Yes, Sir. The Report of the Committee was formal- 2335. SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: Will ly submitted to Government on 16- the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 10-80 and as such it is too early to pleased to refer to the reply given indicate action taken on the numerous to Unstarred Question No. 1143 on the recommendation (totalling 111). 18th June, 1980 regarding transfer of C.S.S. pfficers of Selection Grade and (b) The Committe was set up on ~irectors and state: , 26-6-79 with an initial term of six (a) whether any final decision has months. Its term was extended four since been taken in the matter; times during its life upto 31-10-BO. It was a departmental committee which (b) if so, what; and was serviced by the Department of (c) if not, the reasons therefor and Industrial Development and Direc- how long it will take to decide the torate General of Technical Develop- matter? ment. No separate budget provision for expenditure on Secretariat, staff THE MINISTER OF STATE IN cars, telephones etc. was made as THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS these facilities were provided depart- (SHRl P. VENKATASUBBAlAH): mentally. No expenditure on TA/DA (a) and (b). No, Sir. has been incurred in respect of either 20S Written An.rwers AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written A1UtDen :lO6 Chairman or official/non-official They were, however got medically - Members of the Committee. The examined and enlised only on being Chairman was granted an bonorariu:n declared fit. of Rs. 2,000 per month during his tenure. Verdict of Supreme Court on Super- session of N.D.M.C. (c) No special facilities like use of staff cars were provided to the Chair- 2338. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: Will man and Mem bers of the Committee the Minister of HOME Al;'F AIRS be beyond what are normally provided pleased to state; to Government officials. The Chair- man was allowed to retain the Gov- (a) whether .it is a fact that th~ ernment accommodation which he SuprE'me Court has found supersession was occupying at the time of retire- on N.D.M.C. as illegal; and ment as Secretary to the Government of India. (b) if SO, who is responsible for this step and what action is proposed in (d) The Committee has ceased to the matter? exist v;ith effect from 1-11-1980. Reemitment for Police Forces in Delhi THE MrNISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 2337. SHRI D. S. A. SIVAPRAKA- (SHIH YOGENDRA MAKWANA): SHAM: Will the Minister of HOME (a) and (b) On an appeal filed by AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Shri S. L. Kapoor. erstwhile Member of NDMC, against the full Bench (a) whether any recruitment for judgement of the Delhi High Court Police Forces was made this year in Delhi; . upholding the supersession of the NDMC, the Supreme Court pro- (b) if so, whether no written test nounced that the Order dated and medical check-up were made; and February 27, 1980 of the Lt. (c) if so, the reasons therefor? Governor superseding the New Delhi Municipal Committee is vitiated THE MINTSTER OF STATE IN THE by the failure to observe the princi- MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS. ple Audi Alteram Partem. The Sup- (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): reme Court went on to add "we (a) to (c), During the current year neither quash the notification nor re- tests and physicaVmeciical checking instate the Committee. Nor are we have been conducted for recruitment to be understood as having expressed of candidates in Delhi Police. However, any opinion on the merits of the 56 persons belonging to the following supersession." In view of this. there categories have been recruited by does not appear to be any question of giving relaxation as provided in the taking action against any person. Standing Order, governing recruit- ment of constables in Delhi Police:- Licences issued to Top ladastrial Houses 1. Sportsmen 14 2. Performance 01 act of 2339. SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: Will bravery 1 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state the details of industrial 3. On compassionate grounds, licences iSSued to the undertakings as wards of Police per- belonging to top fifteen Houses during _ sonnel 26 1979 and 1980 (up to September, 4. Ex-Sepoys of Sales Tax 1980)1 Department 15 THE MTNISTER OF STATE IN THE Total 56 MIN~STRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): Adoptin' flO, Written Answer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AnsWer, the ranking of the Department ot (C) whether traffic on this portion Company Aftairs in regard to the is two way or one way? fifteen top industrial houses, (as on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 31-12-1978) the number of licences MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS granted under the Industries (Deve- (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): lopment & Regulation) Act, 1951 (a) During the last three years 30 during the period 1.1-1979 to 30-9- accidents were reported, involving 1980 are as fol1ows:- 10s5 of 7 lives. Name of the Tutal number (b) The DTC buses were involved Industrial Houses of Industrial in three of these accidents and there Licences issued was loss of 3 lives in one such acci- during 1-1-79 dent. to 30-9-80 (c) It is two-way traffic. 1. Birla 7 2. Tata 1 Solving of murders of Nlrankari Chief 3. MafaUal 1 and Gautam JaiSinghani • 4. K. Singhania 2 J. 2341. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: 5. Thapar 2 SHRI CHIRANJI LAL 4 6. I.e.!. SHARMA; 7. Bangur SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: 8. Shri Ram 2 9. Oil India Will the Minister of HOME 10. Scindia AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 11. La rsen and Tau bra 3 12. A.C.C. 1 (a) whether the murders of the 13. Bhiwandiwala 1 Nirankari Chief and of Gautam J.li- 14. Kirloskar 7 singhani haVe been solved by the 15. Hindustan Lever 1 Police; (b) if not, the reasons for failure The details of all Industrial Licen- to solve these cases despite claiming ces issUed are published in ''Weekly of vital clues by the Police Authori- Bulletin of Import Licences, Export ties; and Licences and Industrial Licences" and (c) the steps taken by Government Supplement to the "Monthly News to gear up the investigation machine- Letter' published by the Indian In- ry? 'Yestment Centre. Copies of these publications are available in the Par- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB liament Library. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS. (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (c). C. B. 1. is investigating the A0cl4_t. oa PatbirpDJ Roa4, Delhi case relating to the murder of Nirankari Chief and sustained efforts 2340. PROF. AJIT KUMAR MEHTA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS are being made to complete the in- vestigation .The Hi~h Powered Com- be pleased to state: mittee constituted by Government (a) the number ot accidents that with the Lt. Governor of Delhi as eccured On Patparganj Road, from Chairman is closely monitoring the Geeta Colony to Shakarpur crossing progress of investigation. in Delhi in the last three years and The investigation of the case rela- the loss of lives involved; ting to the murder ot Gautam Jal- (b) -the number of accidents in singhani is being done by the Delhl which nTC 'buses were involved and Police and all possible efforts are tile loss of lite in each accident; and being made to trace the eulprits. ~09 Written AnstDeTS AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written An.~l.OeTl :210 Arrest.s tor BlaclrmarkeUng ia Cement strategies are being implemented to help them a~quire skills and assets 2342. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: Will the to raise their income levels. The finan_ Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to cial assistance made available, inter- state: alia includes providing them th~ (a) how many persons have been necessary raw materials subsidies and arrested for selling cement in black- institutional credit, organising marke- market in the country; ting facilities, revitalising the Entre. preneur Development Programme (E. (b) how many, CPWD contra~·tors D. P.) and upgrading existing skills have been arrested in this connection; and consequently incomes through th~ and Training of Rural Youth for Self- (c) what action Government propose Employment (TRYSEM). to take againts them? Opening of Legal in E. P. F. Organi .. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI sation CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) to 2344. SHRI R. P. YADAV: Will thL (c). The cement has been declared an Minister of LABOUR be pleased t .. Essential Commodity under the Es- state: se.1tial Commodities Act, 1955. Powers J: :::_';e b.: 2n delegated to the State (a) whether Government are aware- Governments who are to take action that for want of a Legal Cell in the for violation of the provisions of the Employess' Provident Fund Organisa- Act. Statistics in regard to arrests tion, there is no up-to-date references made in this connection are not cent- and norms in conducting the cases; rally maintained. (b) whether, a high level Legal Cell is proposed to be opened and Hardsbips to Traditional mini-Legal Cell in all Regional Occupationists Offices headed by at least an Assistant 2343. SHRI MUKUNDA MANDAL: Commissioner in view of the large Will the Minister of LABOUR be number of cases pending allover pleased to state: India; and (a) whether Government are aware (c) whether Government propose t. of the hardships to the traditional publish up-to-date copy of Hand book occupationists and their gradual eli- of Legal clarifications whiCh should mination; not be in any case inferior to the various books published in the (b) if so, the facts thereof; market? (c) whether Government are consi- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN Tn dering any measures in terms of MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. financial assistance to these traditional VENKATA REDDY): (a) & (b). One oecupationists; and POst of a Law Officer has beea sanctioned for the headquarters ctt (d) if so, the details thereof and if the Employees Provident Fund Orga- not, the reasons thereof? nisation for greater attention te THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE legal matters. The question of settinl J4INLSTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. up Legal Cell in the Regional oftleeJ- is also receiving attention. VENKATA REDDY): (a) to (d). Certain surveys and reports have, to (c) A Handbook of Legal Clarifi- an extent, indicated the economic cations as is already in USe in the hardshipS faced by rural artisans fol- Organisation, is being up-to-dated bT lowing traditional occupations. To incorporating all important High . alleviate their distress, a wide varie- Court and Supreme Court 4eclsieDs fir of developmental programmes and from time to time. 21J Written An8wer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written AnstDet's 212 TraJD.b1c In Employeea ProvkleDt FI8UI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Qrcan.IIatIoa MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. VENKATA REDDY); The recom- 2345. SHRI R. P. Y ADAV: Will the mendations of the Mathew Committee Minister of LABOUR pleased to state: were examined by the Empowered (a) whether Government are aware Committee of the Government con. that there is immediate need to open sisting of the representatives of con- a Training-cum-Evaluation cell under cerned Ministries and Depar:ments. the Directorate of Training and Per- The Empowered Committee has sonnal in the Employees' Provident finalised its deliberations. The entire Fund Organic;ation tor training the report of the Mathew Commit~ee new ACs, PFIs and LDCs; along with the views and comments of the Empowered Committee on (b) whether Government propose various recommendations, has noW to institue a rigorous training of all been placed before the Government the new recruits included ACs, PFIs for final decision. and LDCs for smooth and efficient administration; and E.S.I. Hospitals In Sivakasi (c) whether there would be group 2347. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: discussions for explanation of the Win the Minister of LABOUR be accounts. enforcement and legal sec- pIeaced to state: tions amongst persons? (a) the number of small scale units THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE in Sivakasi and neighbouring areas MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. that extend ESIS and Provident Fund VENKATA REDDY): (8) and (b). facilities to the employees; Yes, Sir. There is already a Director (h) How many hospitals have been ot Personnel and Training in the established under the ESI Scheme at Office of the Central Provident Fund Sivakasi; and Commissioner who deals with training of the staff and officers of the Em- (c) whether fire fighting equipment ployees' Provident FUnd Organisa- and o~her legal requirements under tion. A scheme for training new re- the Factories Act are being observed cruits at the level of Lower Division in these factories? Clerks and Upper Division Clerks has THE DEPUTY MTNISTER IN THE been introduced in the Employees' MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. Provident Fund Organisation recently. VENKATA REDDY): (a) 220 such A scheme for imparting training to units are covered under the ESI officers at higher levels has also been drawn up by the Central Provident Scheme while 250 are covered. under Fund Commissioner. This will be the Employees' Provident Fund taken up after gaining some experience Scheme. with respect to the induction level (b) There is an ESl dispensary at tr.aining scheme. Sivakasi as well as 19 beds reserved (c) The techniques Of group discus~ in the Government Hospital. Sivakasi sions will. no doubt, be adopted in the for members of the ESI Scheme. training courses. (c) Yes. Sir. AeUon OIl Mathew Com.mIttf#& Report Improving workiDg eODdltlons of Child LabOGr in small match units, 2346. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Sivakasl Will the Minister Of LABOUR be pleased to state the action taken by 2348. SHRI K.. RAMAMURTHY: Government on Mathew Committee's Will the Minister of LABOUR be report on National Employment Ser- pleased to state the steps taken to vice? improve the working conditions of 213 Written A1I8WeTa AGRAHAYANA 12, 190~ (SAKA) Written AnsweTS 214 child labour in small match units in 1uiflci)4, 1fCA", ;rf ~ ~ ~ Sivakasi. ~till1ICfi ~ it ~ it ~ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ~ sa..n:r ~ 1975 ~ MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. it lIT Pl"OpOIal for MocIifteattOD of Ceata.riaa identification of bonded labour and TaDb deny their existence; 2351. SHRI HARIKESH BAHA- (c) whether enumeration C1f agri- DUR: Will the Minister of DEFENCE cultural labourers lacking freedom of be pleased to state: choice to work as bonded labourers (a) whether any proposal was put will take place in 1981; and up by the General Staff of the Army (d) what specific steps are being to modify the Centurian Tanks in taken to ensure freedom of choice to the year 1973-74; all agricultural labourers in the (b) if so, details thereof; and country and ensure their minimum wages in all States and Union Terri- (c) what are the steps taken by tories? Government in that direction? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THB THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P. THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VENKATA REDDY: (a) to (d). A SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) The statement is laid on the Table of the General Staff Branch of the Army House. Headquarters had submitted a propo- eal for modernisation of the Centurian statement Tank in 1972 and not in the year 1973- 74. The Bonded Labour System (AbOli- tion) Act, 1976 defines a bonded (b) and (c). The proposal for labour as "a Labourer who incurs, or modernisatiOn of the Centurian Tanks has, or is presumed to have, incurred. waS considered in 1972. But when a bonded debt". Bonded debt ha. the proposal was examined in depth, been defined as "an advance obtained, it was not accepted because Cen- or presumed to have been obtained, turian Tanks were 19 years old and by a bonded labourer under, or ill the cost of moderniSing these Tanks pursuance of, bonded labour system." was much more than the cost 01 The main elements of determininc tanks available from East European the presenCe of bondage have beea countries. Besides, the supply of enumerated in the definition of the spare parts to be imported for those bonded labour system which me~ items which were not covered by "the system of forced or partly modernisation, was not reliable. forced, labOUr under which a debtcx' enters, or has, or is presumed to h!lve, BoDded u'bOur entered, into an agreement with . th- 2352. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: creditor to the effect that:- Will the Minister of LABOUR be (i) in cOnsideration of an ad- pleased to refer to the reply given vance obtained by him or by aD7 to Starred Question No, 277 on the of his lineal ascendants or des~e' 28th June 1980 regarding differences dants (whether or not such advance with Sta~s over question of bonded is evidenced by any document) and labour and state: in consideration of the interest, if (a) whether, in accordance with the any, due on such advance, or legal provisions. agricultural la- (ii) inpursuan.ce of any customary bourers lacking the freedom to work or social obligation; Or under other employers even on higher wages unless they return this (iii) in pursuance of an obliga- loan to the employer are bonded tion ~volving on him by 1Uece8- labourers; sions; Or (b) whether many State Govern- (iv) tOr any eeonomic conSidera- JIl~ts and many of their officials ar~ tion reeeived by him or by any of confused over the very definition or hU lineal ascendants, or Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written At'&S1Ders 2US J (v) by reason of his birth in any received so far. States have been re- _particUlar caste Or community; he quested to take effective steps, would- including undertaking intensive sur- veys to identify and rehabilitate (1) render, by himself or bonded labour whenever existing. through any member of his family, The details of a Central Legislation or any person dependent on him, for Agricultural Workers are under labour or service to the creditor, Government's consideration, while or for the benefit of the creditor, measures are beini formulated for for a specified period or fOr an the effectiVe implementation of the unspecified period, either without Minimum Wages Act. wages or for nc.,1inal wages; or (2) forfeit the freedom of employment or other means of livelihood for a specified period; :':3 53. ~f ~~ anetiT: or. W P..'{q -ta'( ~ ~ tit ~ m (3) forfeit the right to move Ai freely throughout the territory of India; or (Ofi) Ft mJfif ~ am: it (4) forfeit the right to appro- ~ ~ ;ftftf tflfT t 0iIT ~ priate or sell at market value ~ ~~ Transfer Of IlJ4lvldaali Servlnr an (e) total number of such indi- OrranIIatIoD fOr 15 Yean on viduals who are transferred even 1'romot1on after the recommendations of their officers in the interest at service for 2354. SHRI OAYA RAM SHAK- their retention? YA: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (a) whether it is a fact that those (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) to individuals who have 15 years of (e). On 28th Mar. 1980 a decision was service in one organisation in the taken that officers who had remained Armed Forces Headquarters are in the same offiCe for long wou~d be transferred to other Organisation on transferred and as an immediate step, their promotion to the rank of Assis- ACSOs from the Select List for pro- tants/Assistant Civilian StafT Officers motion as CSOs who had put in and above; more than 15 year<; service in (b) if so, total number of indi- their respective HQ/Organisadons/ viduals in each category who were Branches would be transferred on transferred during the period from promotion with the exception of those January to June, 1980; who were within two vears of retire- ment Pootings on p~omotion with (c) total number of such indi- eect from 28th Mar. 1980 were regu- viduals who were retained in the lated accordingly. same Organisation even after com- pletion of 15 years in each category; 2. Promotions from 28th March, 1980 to 30 June 1980 were effected only to (d) reason in detail for :retaining the grade of CSO and the required of indi viduals mentioned in (c) information relating to them is given above; and below:------Grade N (b) Total n~mber of individuals who were transferred dunntj the penod from 28 March to 30 J lUlC 80 • .' eso (c) Total number of individuals who were retained in the same organisation even after completion of 15 years . . eso 4 (d) Reasons in detail for retaining individuals mentioned in The officers had less (c) abo\'(" than two years sert- vice before retirement. (e) Total number of indi'·iduals who were transferred even aftt'r Ih(' rccommr.ndatif'llS of th(" OffiC("fS in the interest of servin' for tht'ir cont ilHli'" eso 5 3. Prior to 28 Mar 80, there was no three years of retire~ent w~re not to policy for turn over of individuals be posted out except where it was On completion of 15 years service. The inescapable. earlier policy was laid down in March 1974 accoording to which no turn in 4. Promotions to the grade of Assis- case of sensitive sections. Non- tant were made during the period 1 gazetted staft' in promotion were al- J an. to 27 Mar 80 according to the lowed to be retained in the same policy in para 2 above. No promo- organisation subject to the availa- tions to the grade Of Assistant were bility of vacancy and gazetted staff made from 28 Mal) to 30 Jun 80. on promotion were transferred by Information asked for in the ques- moving them from one directorate to tion in respect of individuals pro- another within the same HQlBranchJ moted to the grade of Assistant from Organisation subject to availability 1 Jan. ~ to 27 Mar. 80 is given of vacancies. Individuals within below:- 221 Written ARSWeTS AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) Written An.I1DeT. 2U Grade No. (b) Total rlumber of individuals who were t.ransferred during the- period from I Jan. 80 to 27 March 80 . . :\sstts. 7 (c) Total number of individuals who were retained in the same orgaaisalioll even afler completion of 15 years Asstts. 8 (d) Reasons in detail for retaini! g individuals me-ntllollcd in They wc.re- retaincd in (c) above. keeping with the ori- ginal policy of 1974. (to) Total muno.er of i:ldividudl: wh() were transferred {"V("11 after the reCi)Imn('ndat iOIlS of lh,: oftict'rs in the interest of s("T\'ice for thclr Cl);,llHuity. As.-;tts. 3 ------,-- ,_ --_"_'------,- _. Time Scale Promotion Policy and its (b) SSAs have been promoted App.icability against existing clear vacancies of JSOs and consequent chain vacancies 23j5. SHRI DAYA RAM SHAKYA: of SSAs and down below have been W.w.l the Mi lister of DEFENCE be made available 'for promotion of the pleased to state: lower level staff. In addition, Gov- ernment have also upgraded a number (a) the reaSOns why the benefit of oi SSA posts to JSO to provide relief time scale promotiol1 pOlicy adopted to the SSAs who had been stagnating by Directorate General of Inspection for long. and Research and Development Orga- nisation to wipe out stagnation, in (c) A Cadre Review of all Cate- respect of SSA to JSO is not being gories of personnel in the 001 Orga- allowed to permeate to lower levels. nisation is on hand to ensure adequate i.e.; JSA I to SSA & JSA II to JSA career prospects at all levels inClud- I or is there any such proposal under ing those of JSA and SSA. . consideration; (b) the reasons why the vacancies caused vacant by promotiO!l from Seizure Of Pakistani Arms In SSA to JSO in DGl Organisation have Amritsar been abolished, depriving thereby the lower staff of their legitimate 2356. SHRI R. L. BRATIA: right of promotion to higher posts; SHRI MADHAVRAO and SCINDIA: ( c) is there any proposal under PROF. MADHU DANDA- consideration to open new promotion VATE: avenues for career improvement in DGI Organisation on the pattern of Will the Minister of HOME proposal being considered for active AFFAIRS be plea::: J to state: service personnel? (a) whether it is a fact that Pak. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN made arms meant for U.P. towns THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE were seized by Amritsar District (SHRI SHIVRA.J V. PATIL): (a) PoliCe during the last 2-3 months? No "time scale promotion policy" has (b) whether any investigation had been adopted by the Directorate been made as to the modus operandi General of Inspection and Rese'lrch & of smuggling of these Pak. arms Development OrganisatiOn in respect into India and their subsequent des- of promotion at any level including patch to the riot-hit towns; and that of SSA to JSO. However, the Government have taken steps from (c) if so, the action taken to appre- time to time to relieve stagnation at hend the smugglers and recipients of various levels. these arms? 2.23 DECmMBER 3, 1980 Written Anst.Oer. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to THE MINISTRY OF HOME state: AFFAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- WANA): (a) to (c) According to (8) whether Government have information received from the Pun- liberalised its approach to foreign jab Government 221 Pak-made collaboration approvals in the manu- revolvers have been seized by the facturing sphere; Amritsar Police and 21 persons were taken into custody. The investiga- (b) if so, the details of the libera- tions so far made haVe revealed that lisation; !!JOme of the arms were intended for Uttar Pradesh where the arms smug- ( c) how many foreign collabora- glers have their contracts with the tions have been approved between arms dealers. No recipients of illicit January to June, 1980 and how many arms have so far been arrested, in after liberalisation; and this connection. (d) in what sphere the fofeign Tanks offered by Britain collaboration has been approved after and before June, 1980? 2358. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN BOSE ALLURI: THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Will the Minister ot DEFENCE be (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): pleased to state: (a) and (b) Government have re- cently decided to delegate powers (a) whether it is a fact that to the Administrative Ministries for England has offered a battle tank to deciding foreign collaboration pro- India tor sale; posals in cases, inter aUa, where the foreign exchange outgo in each case (b) which other tanks the if so, on lumsum payments, if any, and Government haVe considered and royalty together does not exceed 3 whether any decision has been taken per cent and 5 per cent respectively in this regard; and of the ex-factory value of production (c) whether Government propose and further, subject to a ceiling of to aCQuire foreign technical know how Rs. 50 lakhs in the aggregate over to update our own process at tank a periOd of not more than ten years. manufacture? (c) and (d) No proposals have so THE MINISTER OF STATE IN far been decided under the delegated THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE powers. However, 182 toreign col- (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) laboration proposals were appro~ Yes, Sir. during January-June, 1980 and 205 (h) and (c) Certain tanks manu- during July-October, 1980. factured by other countries have been considered but no final decision has Lists giving details of the foreign been taken as yet. It is not in the COllaborations proposals approved by interest of national security to dis- Government are issued on a quarterly close any 'futher details in this basis. These lists, inteT alia, indi- regard. cate the name of Indian company, the name of foreign collaborator, the item of manufacture and whether the Uberalised Approach Foreip to pl"O'PIOSal invo:M!s foreign capital Collaboration participation. Copies of these lists 2359. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- are sent to the Parliament Library SEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Kin- regularly. 225 Written AMWeTS AGRABAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Written Annoen a26 eapaett,. Ut;iliBation and Modernisa- these examinataions which were in tioa Of Cement Industry the scheme of the old I.A.S. exami- nation? 2360. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR SINGH:, Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTRY OF HOMII AFFAIRS (SHRI P. VENKATA.. (a) the consumption and produc- SUBBAIAH): (a) The Commission tion of cement in the country; haVe set up a Standing Committee (b) the number Of cement factories consisting of three Members of the in which full production capacity is Commission, to review the scheme,. not being utilised; and syllabi, etc. for various examinations, including the Civil Services Examina- (c) the details of the scheme being tion, held by them. formulated by Government for the modernisation of cement industry? (b) As the process Of reviwing the sclleme and syllabi for variOUS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN examinations is of continuing nature, THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY the question of fixing a time limit (SHRl CHARANJIT CHANANA): fOr submission Of the Report of the (a) The production of cement during Committee does not arise. Moreover, the year 1979-80 was 17.62 million the Sub-Committee is not a formal tonnes. As this was not adequate to one but has been set up internally as meet the demand, 1.55 million tonnes a convenient method to carry out this of cement was imported which was work. also consumed. (c) It is only an internal working (b) 44. arrangement of the Commission. It reviews the syllabi BUO as well (c) Details O'f the scoome on mota, modernisation of cement industry are as per the representations received being worked out. from individuals, institutions, etc. Revision 01 Syllabi tor Central SeT- (d) At present, the Commission do vice Examination by U.P.S.C. not have under their consideration any proposal to change the existing 2361. SHRI M.. V. CHANDRA- pattern of their examinations. How- SEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Min- ever, the proposals, if any, that may ister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased be made by the Standing Committee to state: to change the pattern of examinations (a) whether Union Public Service will be conSidered by the CommissiOn. Commission has set up a Sub-Com- mittee to review the syllabi for its (e) The COI1lmiJsion have decided examinations in particulars the Civil that Statistics, AntbroP4)logy, Chme.e Services Examinations; and Pali which wer~ incluc;leg. in the scheme of the erstWhile Indian Ad- (l?) if so. when the Committee is ministrative Service etc. BxaminaUon. likely to submit its report; sb.Quld be re-introd1lCe4 ill the scheme of the Civil Services Exaud- (c) what are the reference! made nation. AgricultUre which was a _- to tile COmmittee; subject introduced, in the new scheme of exarnfba:tiOn and which (d) the. steps beine \&ken to chanee mc1u4e4 the. .patt.era of examinations for aU Animal Hustiaiicf1.y iias been made the ,~ve esaminations held by inte two ~ 8U~ Le. Acri- the V.P.8.C.; and cultare __,:AlMInal H~ ... Ve~ ~ Botkc ","" ~ ie) _w~er tt.P.S.C. has decided ~~s ?fill .be ~~ to ,candidates in. to re.:iiitrcfiW:e the' _'-subjeCts for Civil Services Preliminai.7 as' wen" _ Main Examination. The subject- has submitted a report to the Prime Statistici will be for both Civil Ser- Minister for inclusion of environ- vices (Preliminary) and Civil Servi- mental protection in the concurrent cea (Main) Examination and the other list; three only for the Civil Services (b) whether all the Chief Ministers (Main) Examination. This will have have been asked to offer their views from the Civil Services Exami- effect on the recommendations of the report; nation, 1981. (c) if so, the reaction 01. Govern- Wf1l" ~ if "1t"" fIfffWf I ment in this regard; and ~ "'!\iN" """""81ft.. fwq (d) by what time Government pro- 2363. " .. ~ "h!(Wf(o ~ pose to implement the recommenda- ~ 'QIT Or q ~ 1tl' f;q'T m tion of the Committee? firi': THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE Ipff ~ ~ (Ill) if ct'1,;f"'d AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELEC- ~ ~ if'ltf"'ff iij.,iat,fd41 itt" TRONICS (SHRI C. P. N. SINGH): ~$~~ri1r$~ (a) The Report 01 the Committee set up On 29th February, 1980 to recom- ~ itt ~ 1ft ~ fila~r the Department of Environment for (c) Yest Sir. examination and putting up to Gi>V- ernment for initiating action far im- (d) In the U,S.A. maximum X ... plementing the recommendation as Radiation permitted from TV picture approprh\~e. tube is 0.5 milli roentgen per hour. (e) Enforcement of the standards is done by Bureau Of Radiological CoIov T.V. bJner riIk to Health Health, 2365. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: (f), (g) and (h) As Colour TV sets SHRl ATAL BEHARJ have not yet been commercially in- VAJPAYEE: troduced in this country, the questions SHRI DAYA RAM SHAKYA: do not arise. However, black and PROF. MADHU DANDA- white TV sets, whk~ are the ones in VATE: regular use in this country today, SHRI D. P. JADEJA: emit X-rays far ,below the level Will the PRIME MINISTER be referred to in (d) above. pleased to state; (a) whether it 'rias been reported qw~:~" ... m!" r~o" .~W1 in the press that Colour T.V. is bigger IT'O ~ f1d'a """ ....,1:1 .... ,.,. risk to health; _"" ~ 111 'Of~ ~ _In ,,~'t1 <·b) if so, the reaction of Union Government theretc.; '"'" • fltJ, (c) whether it has also been stated 2 366. f~\1oi r~ : ann that T.V. sets can be a potential'ilealth 'l' hazard if the X-radiation emitted by t'11l ltii q: ~ ttft IitfT .1:iT ~ them is not kept below the permis- 4ft ~ ~ ~ f«o, sible limit; .~ ;r ~ it ~l iti ~ Cfi'lf- (d) whether the United States has ~ 1J'Rf ;ft1rr ~ ~ ~ set up a standard which require that ~ Ria' ~ ~ f~'T; ,all T.V. receivers must not emit X- iti radiation above l!ae 0.5 milli roentgen mlr~~~~ ;tf~ per hour level unde·r the most adverse ~~~~t~~ operating conditions; ~ ~ it; ~ ~ ~T CflT· (e) whether T.V. manufacturers are also required to submit written reports trt t ? ta the Federal Drug Administration; (1) whether it is not being done in India; "" 'Rr-il1"1f if ~ Q" (~ tft 0 1A~ qt) : ~ ~ fi.ftI (g) whether his Ministry bas also decided to do the same; and slimtfilf<41 it ~ fitilrr t fifi' (b) if not, the main reasons there- 4ft ~ fiR;r ~ ~ for? ~~~, 1978~~ 1980 it; ~ ~ ~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN f.di:r, THE DEPARTMENTs OF SCIENCE ifw;r Ant ~ ifiQ .... :6-\iIlfT~ iftqr AND TECHNOLOGY AND ELJ£- ~ it.- ftro: 18,10,958.60 m ~ (SHRI C. P. N. SINGH>: &tt~~ct\'tlq:~ Yes, Sir. ~ 1Prr t fila Sirij~tif 1ti\' .m: ;itt (b) Observations made ill the .DeWS itefD have beeD noted. ~~;stltf Written Answers DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written Anstoe,.s ~ 'UJ"q iftlrr ~ ~ ~ tal. Another 192 peak watt solar fCfilff t fat; 51 f(j 66li'l if ~ photovoltaic array is providing electricity far lighting 6 fiourescent '1979 ~ ~, 1980 ctT ~~ l:amps in a central kitchen, and 9 ~ ~ 4,49,679.50 Wlr ~ lIuuresc€nt lamps in a community hall. The equipment has been fabri- '-RT ij;f ~ I ~Ti1' ~ ~ fPfl:Tf'l' ca:ed a~ the Central Electronics Ltd., "fil{ fPfl:Tfvr i1CfiTlfr 'f@ t I a pubbc sector undertaking under the Department of Science & Tech- Development of Solar Power Lighting nokgy. The power system is per- System fo~~ir.g wei} and is providing elec- triCIty for lighting round the clock. 2367. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR SINGH: (c) T'ile basic technology for direct SHRI JITENDRA PRASAD' cO,n~ersi(',n of solar energy into elec- ~ .~il1 the Minister of SCIENCE A~D tncity by photovoltaic cells has 11~CHNOLOGY be pleased to state: already been developed. The main problem now is to bring down the (0) whether solar-power lighting cos,t per peak watt, of electricity by system has been developed in any thIS method to a reasonable level; p~rt of India by the Central Electro- and this is the pr:mary objective of nICS Ltd. Or other public and private the current DST Programme in this agency; area. This could be achieved: (a) (b) if so, t',le details thereof; and by devel(\ping low cost solar grade silicon material and low-cost techni- (c) what steps are proposed to be ques of fabrication and (b) by im- taken to develop solar power and proving the efficiency of solar cells make it feasible for larger use? and panels. The programme in this area has So far successfully resulted in the fabrication of single crystal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE silicon cells at the laboratory scale DEPARTMENTS OF SCIENCE AND by the Central Electronics .lLimited TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRONICS (a Public Sector Undertaking under (SHRI C, P. N, SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir, DST) with participation of research India's first solar photovoltaic power groups in IITs, National Physical based lighting system has been instal- Laboratory, Central Electronics Engg· led in Choglamsar, a village in Research Insti tute, Pilani and other Ladakh, by the Central Electronics institutions. Solar F'ilotovoltaic Ltd., under a dem('.nstration pro- Modules developed at Central Elec- gramme initiated by the Department tronics Ltd.. are currently being used of Science & Technology. in the lighthouse Beacon at Dwaraka Port k.r ship navigation, for pumping (b) India's first solar phoiovoltaic water in the solar distillation plant power based lighting system has been at Awania village in Gujarat, lighting installed in Choglamsar, a remote for a village in Ladakh, for drlItking village in LadtAl&l, 'al90 pOpularly water supply at Tijara villa~e in known as the Tibetan 80S children's Rajasthan and in a few demonstra- villaae: Situated at a height of near- tion water pumping systems tor ly 11,000 feet, the sy'siem has Men micro-irrigation, community TV in installed at a cOst of MSout Rs. 1.5 Sambabad and Radio at Bal Bhav~ lakhs, under a demonstration pro- Delhi, etc. The' p~ envisages gr~~e initialed ,.:by ,~e ~p!r~~nt SC1Iling up 1.'ne fll'brle8.tion tecluiiq\ies of Scleri:ee " 'teclinology. A 348 peak for silkon solar cells and Panels; deve10ping modules for watt. 'sMar -pbt;U}'¥Gttaie alTay'iS--pro- applications ~ ·~I viding electricity ,faT .~:n.h~inJ,« ,,~'l a of dt1nking water, ftourescent lam&s in a 2%.:.'bed h~- minor irrlgatidh', eommui1ity llgh\iftl, .233 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) Written Answtrs 234 for educational radio and TV sets, certain applications as defence com- cathodic protection of oil pipelines and munication sets. light and radio for use in cQIllmunication equipment beacons for S'd.ip navigation, Cathodic in remote areas. A major pre-com- protection of pipelines, community 'IV mercial. pilot plant project costing and lighting. where low quantities of about RS. 12.0 crores over 5 years in- power are needed in remote area:-. cluding large-scale application of photovoltaic power appoors to tile photo.voltaic systems in rural are:lS nearing economic competitiveness ul- for a variety of purposes ( wit l'0ady. Present efforts are directed emphasis an water pumping for drink- towards improvements in technology, ing and minor irrigation), has been sC31e of development and fabrication. drawn up. In t!le meantime, 3. short- and field demU'lstration toward::; term programme to be completed by redut"tion of costs. The market avail- Ire: fo," fab:-ication and field demons- ~!LiJity and co::-.l.;i will depend on thE' tr:::tion of Soi':lr PhotovoItaic pump c:::onomic competitiveness achieved sets of about 2;:) Kw Llggregate capacity through this effort. One could a}:::o ht:s b\.'en initiated. In addition. it is generate electricity throug"l solar alg,.',. pla'lned to provide atout 5 Kw thermal power plal;ts and biogas and c"'P:1('ity photovoltaic modules by 1981 me this for lighting and C\ther appli- fOr domestic and other related appli- ca:ions. Researc'h and development cations. '. ~ concerning these aspects is also being supported. Progress 'nas also been made in thin films cadmium su:phide solar cells, MOS, and on polycrystalline silicon Deputation of I.A.S. Officers solar cells. R&D projects on material:-; (extraction and purification C\f solar 2368. SHRI BHEEKU RAM JAIN: grade silicon from rice husk. ;(mor- Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS con~entractor phous :::ilicon. e:c.), bp pleased to lay a statement shoW- solar ce;ls and tracking systems e:c. ing: have a Iso been funded. A Scanning Auger Spectrophotometer faCility \dth (a) the number Of lAS offlcers who basic ESCA accessories has been set are on deputation~ UP :ott lIT, Delhi fC\i rese::..rch on thin film solar cells and selective coatings (b) the period fC\r w~lich these with fU!lds provi::led by DST. The offkers were initially sent to work know-~loW that has been generated on On deputation and how many of these the fabricatiOn of fresnel condensors have been given extension; is being commercialised. (c) whether the lAS Officers would It is proposed to expand the use of be asked to give their option to come photovoltaic systems fC\r various back to their parent departments or applications, as this can contribute remain M deputation; directly towards supplying some orf the needs presently met by petroleum (d) the expenditure incurred on products, e.g., pumps for drinking allowances and perks given to all lAS wate.r and tmicro-irrigation, rural officers on deputation during the last lighting, etc. The cost of unit of three years, year-wise; power installed by this saurce is presently high as compared with con- (e) t"lle names of lAS officers who ventional sources, being of the order are working on deputation and reasons of Rs. 80--120 per peak watt. The therefor; and running costs are, however, much lower than for non-hydel conven- (f) whether Government propose tional sources such as coal, diesel, ta review the position in the matter kerosene. nuclear, etc. This offsets of sending lAS oftlcers on deputati~ the higher capital costs, such that for if so, details thereof? Written Answer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN mE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Government of J&I{ into the reported incidents, if so, details thereof· and tSHRI P: VENKATASUBBAIAH) : , ('a). (c) and (t) lAS oftlcers are (c) the action taken by the Govern- ,t:gible to be appointed to posts at ment to get the secessionist elements the level ot Under Secretary and in the State identified and also to above at the Centre against their e~s~re that the National Flag is no~ authorised Central Deputation Reserve dls'.lOnoured in future? for specified periods of tenure, on the expiry of which they ordinarily revert THE MINISTER OF STATE IN to their respective States. The lAS THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAmS offi:ers deputed to top posts in the (SHRI lYOGENDRA 'MAKWANA): public sector undertakings are, re- quired to exercise their option for (a) The Government have seen the permanent absorption within a ,period newsreport referred tao of 213 years, failing which they have Cb) According to a report furnish- to revert to f.oeir own cadres. How- ed by the Jammu and Kashmir Gov- ever, the tenure of the officers may ernment. on the 15th August, '1986, be curtailed or extended in the hartal was observed in Sopore town exigencies of Government work and in {'onnectian with Moradabad inci- for administrative considerations. dents. A group of Youngsters -belong- ing to J. & K. Jamait-e-Islami and As on 1-10-80, 661 lAS officers were nther anti-national and secessionist en deputation to posts at the level of groups organised a procession and pro- Under Secretary and above at the ceeded towards a local Higher Secon- Centre against their proportionate dary Sc·,10 o} where the Independence Central Deputation Reserve of 729. Day celebrations were tQ start. These This includes those officers who are miscreants entered the School ground in Public Sector Undertakings also. raising anti-national slogans and re- moved the Nati('.nal Flag and tore it (b), (d) and (e) The requisite in- to pieces, they hoisted a black flag ronnation is being coI1ected. there instead. Later. they picked the pole along with the 'black flag and proceeded tt\wards the main bazar and bus stand damaging teleifilone and Natronal Flac pulled down i.u J It K electric wires. (c) The State Government had !308. SHRI CHHANGUR RAM: taken action against 1.4ile miscreants SHRI RAM VILAS PAS WAN: both under the Central and State laws like the Unlawful Activities (Preven- Will 1S1e Minister t\f HOME tion) Act, the Prevention of Insults to AFFAIRS be pleased to state: National Honour Act, the Ranok (a) whether attention of the Gov- Penal Code, etc. ernment has been drawn to the Press Influx frOm Bangladesh and Trans- report appearing in Patriot dated 16th border Smucglin« August, 1980 stating that supporters of the ex:remists and secessionist ele- 2370. SHRI CHHANGUR RAM: ments in Kashmir pulled down the SHRI JAGPAL SINGH: National Flag hoisted on the lndepend- Will the Minister of HOME enee nay and hoisted a black flag AFFAIRS be pleased to state: instead at certain places in the valley and celebrated Pakistan's Independ- (a) whether it is a fact that despite ence Day demandin~ plebiscite to the efforts made by the Indian and Banglades«il Governments, the influx of settle t.le Kashmir dispute; people.from Bangladesh and trans- (b) if so, whether Government have .. border smuggling continues to be un- obtained any report from the state abated; 237 WriUeft Aft.StDen AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902. (SAKA) Writtn AUtDer. 238 (b) if so, the reasons therefor and (c) ActiOn, including prosecution the steps taken or proposed to be and deportation under Foreigners Act, taken by Government in this direc- 1946, is taken against foreigners who tion; and stay in India unauthorisedly. (c) the number of persons who crossed into India during the last six Starttn, of work by Paper MUla in months? Badarpar and Jag{ Road, Assam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 2372. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): DEV: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY (a) and (b) On account of variety be pleased to state: of reasons such the length of the as (a) the date on whiCh the propOsed border and t'Lle nature of terrain Paper Mills at Badarpur and Jagi through which its passes, some illegal Road of Assam are due to start their infiltration and smuggling has been operation; taking place on the Indo-Bangladesh Bottler. Patrolling and anti-smug- (b) whether the Ministry are satis- gling measures along this border has fied with tl~le progre·ss of the work so been intensified and the Custom far achieved by the Hindustan Paper authorities and the BSF f(lave been Corporation; and alerted to check any such smuggling or infitration. (c) if not, what steps are being contemplated to start the functioning (c) During the geriod from May to of the Paper Mills without any fur- October, 1980. the BSF apprehended ther delay? aoout 1254 persons while trying to cross over to India. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Foreign Nationals Overstaying in U.P. (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA): (a) The projects are scheduled for 2371. SHRI CHHANGUR RAM: commercial production by the end ot SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: 1~83-84. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: (b) and (c) The progress {\f (ne projects is being closely monitored Will the Minister of HOME and steps are being taken to ensure AFFAIRS be pleased to state: that the projects are implemented (a) whether Government have without any further serious slippages. made any inquiry wit'D regard to the foreign nationals overstaying in Uttar Pradesh; Reinstatement of Government Emp. loyees by Assam (b) if so, the number thereof stat- ing the periOd of their overstay in 2373. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAt'J" India and the countries to which they DEV: Will the Minister of HOME belong; and AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) the steps contemplated hy Gov- ernment in this matter? (a) whether the Government of Assam have re-instated Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN employees who were suspended for THE MlNlSTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS taking :part in agitation in order to (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): create an atmosphere of coordination (a) and (b) Information is ,being and mutual relationship ibetween the collected from the State Government agitators and Government of Assam and will -be laid on i!le Table of the and for enlisting the support of pub- House. lic servants to the cause; and Written A"'tDe1'B DECDlBER 3, 1980 Written Al1S1Det'$ (b) U so, what is the percentage ~ em ~ rn it fimft of re_instated employees? f..... 1\11 it ~ ifi ~ sm=rrcr THE MINISTER OF grATE IN 'd THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAmS ~ fcF;it ~ t I ~ smn (c) whetMr' it is proposed to in_ (U) The number of filed cases in .. elude those freedom fighters whose ~ ~ c:lIe!pendeots of freedom . term of imprisOnment was less than fighters is as below:- -six months, suffered bullet injuries -.and the dependents of the martyr Madhubani 7 freedom fighters? Darbhanga 20 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN A final decision on these case is THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS pending fOr want of some clarifica- (SHRJ YOOENDRA MAKWANA): tion from the Government of Bihar. (a) (i) No application for the grant of pension to freedom fighters recei v- (c) (i) The qualifying periOd of ed prior to the liberalisation of the imprisonment for eligibility to Cent_ Freedom Fig:,tE:rs Pension Scheme ral Petnsion has been reduced from with e.ifect from 1st August, 1980 six months to three months onZy in is pending initial scrutiny. However, respect of women freedom fighters the number of cases shOWn in the and those belonging to SchEduled ,enclosed State-wise list (Statement-I) Castes/Scheduled Tribes. f;tood as 'Filed' for want of docu- mentary evidenc.e· from freedom figh_ (ii) The pe-nsion scheme provides ters and/or reports from the various for the grant of pension to those w;o State Governments. have suffered pe'rmanent incapacita- tion/disability in connection with freedom struggle caused by bullet in- (ii) The number of applications re- juries or by Lathi Charge. ceived under the liberalise.d pension scheme as ')n 1-1L1980 in respect (If (iii) The Gtpendents of the marL all States/Union Territories is 1988 yrs such as widows and their unmar- out of whkh !pension has been sanc- ried daughters, mother and father are . -tioned in rebped of 384 cases. already covered within the purview of the scheme. (iii) Excepting in the cases of ex_ statement I INA applic!l11ts the State Govern- ments undertake the verification of the Break-up of Cases "Filed" for want claims of Jail and other sufferings. of Documentary Evidence from Free- dom Fighters andlor Report frOfl'!. FurtheT action to the sanction oeu- sion or reject the claim is taken as State Governments (State-wise) as on SOOn as the verification reports of the 1-1LI980 State Governments are received. Th~ S.No. State State Governments and Union Terri_ No. of cases pending disposal 'tory Administrations have already requested to ensure that mini- :been 1. Assam 3709 mum time is taken by them. to verify ·the claims of the applicants, More- 2. Andhra Pradesh 1992 ..over, as the last date for the receipt 3. Anda.man & Nicobar -of applications under the new Sche_ Islands 5 .me is 31-7-1981, and applications witl continue to come upto that date,. it 4. Bihar 4678 is not presently feasible to chalk out 5. Chandigarh 2 a timebound programme for their 6. Delhi 155 .1iisposal. 7. Gujarat 219 8. Goa 192 (b) (n The District..wise number -of 'Filed' cases in respect of Bihar are 9. Haryana 89 ·given in the encloted 'list. (Statement- 10. Himachal Pradesh 15 :tn. ~ WriUeft AfttStDen AGRABAYANA 1~ 1002 (SAKA) Written AftStOet'I R46 S.No. State No. or eases Districts No. of Pendinl pending disposal Cases 11. Jammu & Kashmir 25 Hazaribagh 40 1.2. Kerala 2278 Ranchi 35 13. Karnataka 3322 Singhbhum 24 14. MadhYa Pradesh 614 Purnia/Katihar 148 15. Maha;:ashtra 3354 Shahabad 330 16. Manipur 298 Bhojpur 177 17. Meghalaya 23 Rohtas 128 18. Nagaland 8 Dhanbad 39 19. Orissa 296 20. Pondiche!:ry 25 21~ Pun;j'ab 185 22. Rajasthan 11 LaboUr Participation in ManagemeDt 23. Tamil Nadu 251 24. Tripura 423 2381. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of LABOUR be 25. Uttar Pradesh 2856 pleased to state: 26. West Bp.ngal 5471 ------(a) whether with a view to ensur_ ing better labour management rela- Statement D tions, facilitating settlement of labour disputes, increasing production,. re- Statement of Cases "Filed" for want ducing loss of work due to strikes .of Documentary Evidence from and lock outs etc., it is proposed t·; Freedom Fighters andlor Reports ensure fullest possible :participation jrom State Governmen'ts in respect of by democratically elected labour re- the Applicants from Bihar presentative3 in Management with (District-wise) necessary powers and responsibilities within a fixed time limit in both the (As on 1-11-1980) private and public sector; Districts No. of Pending (b) if so, the details thereabout; Cases and ------Patna/Nalanda 596 (c) if not,. the reasons therefor? Darbhanga /&mastipur/ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 561' Madhubani MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI Muzaffarpur/Sitamarthi P. VENKATA REDDY): (a) to (c) Vaishali 477 Workers' participatiOn schemes are in Palamu 11 operation in many public and private MonghYr 663 sector units. The entire system was reviewed by u 2D-Member Commit_ Saran 241 tee appointed. fOr this purpose. Its Gaya 303 report was received in 1979 and was Inereas~ in Prices of BeminI10n Type (c) whether Government propose Writers to review the present price structure of the· Remington Rand of India gO 2382. SHRI H, N. NANJE as to bring it to a reasonable level; GOWDA: and SHRI DHARAM DAS (d) if no!,. rea~O:1s therefor? SHASTRI: SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: THE MINISTER OF STATE el THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Will the Mmister of INDUSTH 1 (SHRI CHARANJIT CHANANA\: be pleased to state: (a) Mess!'s Rt'ming~or Rand of I!1dia have reported that they' have been (a) whether it is a fact that MIs. raising the price of typewriter mainly Remington R':tnd of India had been On account of increase in cost of raw- &rbitrarily ra'Fing the prices of var- :rraterials, labour costs and repai'r and ious typewriters manufactured 1>'1 maintenance costs. them; (b) The r:rke of typewriteT3 for (b) if so, the increase in prices of sale to the public during the past 10 the typewriters year to year for the years as reported by Remington Rand last 10 yeaL'S; are given be]ow:- ModI'} 23 Wl.04 Cn1<; 311. 10 cm~. 5f) .no CIn". GB. :/~ crn~. (I 1") (I :/) (20") (27") ------Jan. 197 1 '5on IGGO ZOf).) 26-}0 150 (1 IG6~) 2()9:') 2640 1575 1745 22(10 2770 1735 IB75 2365 2930 21 95 2375 :2990 3775 21 95 2375 2990 1775 MODEL 76: 19i7 230 5 2~05 30 80 38go 230 5 2495 :lOBo 38g0 1979 24~/l 2650 32 75 4135 1980 26,30 2785 3440 4550 PORTABLE 'rYPEWRlTERS. Jan. 1976 1200 1977 1200 1978 1200 1979 1200 I~ Written Am'wers DEC~mER 3, 1980 Written Answers (e) and (d) There is no statutorY a'1fi ~ ~ ~ I~ control on the price of typewriters. rn ._. There is no proposal under considerJ.- ~~)1;r ~'11lT~ I~t~~ tion for revi~g the present pric~ tm: ~ ~ m-n: {\' ~ it; ~ structure of typewriters. qf<4131'1i it; ifiI4ifR4l4'i ~ ~ ~~I ~ 'Ilt'( ~ ~ ~ f,,1:t stwilft ~ Appointment of Central VlcUance Commlsslonetr 2383. tJ:fl ~m,,~~o ~.1:: 2384. SHRI R. K. MAHALGI: Will . ,,) 'IPI __ "'"' ..n : the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be ~r .~o ~o ~ 'U!I1A: pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the ~ Ji~r ~ ~.i tf1.1T if;T VlT post of Central Vigilance Commis- cRiT f~ : sioner is vacant since May 1, 1980; ·(Cfi) W Qt-4'31f'1"f1 ~ it \iR'm (b) if so, the reasons thereof; (c) how many complaints are pend- CfIn:: t f4f.:t401ToI ctlT ~ ~ ~ ing in the office of the Central Vigi- ~ fq;frmft;J ~ ; lance Commissioner during the last six months; and ( tf ) 7.ff<:' ~, ffi cp:ff ~ ~ tfj~ ~ ~ iliro' ~ QPq IfctEt (d) the reason for the delay in ~~m GfiT ~'liT~ making this appointment and when the new Central Vigilance Commis- ~ rnm- ; sioner would be appointed? (tJ) ~ ~, ffi ~iiit ilITu THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ~ ~ ~ ~ CfCfi srrtEt' THE MINISTRY OF MOME AF- t m FAIRS (SHRI P. VENKATASUB- ~gt~(f)~~~snt (b) whether the said percentage (b) if so, the reaction of Govem-·- has been fulftlled during 1918 to ment with regard thereto? 1980 year-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN· (c) if so the details of the em- THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- ploymet given to each class in each FAIRS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- department; WANA): (a) Government have seen reports about the activities of the (d) if not, the reasons therefor; and elements behind the so-called 'Khalis- tan' movement; (e) the steps taken or proposed to ( b) The Government of Punjab be taken to fulftl the said posts? have reported that they are seized of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the matter. They have been requested THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- to take appropriate action after exa-- FAmS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK- mining its legal implications. WA): (a) to (e) Information is beinl collected and will be placed on the Table of the House. weaton Eleetroolcs News item Capti.oDect "Ghost Unit! 2389. SHRI H. N. NANJE GOWDA:- Galore Ia 8ODepat" Will the PRIME MINISTER be plea-· sed to state: 2387. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: Will the Minister of (8) whether it is a fact that Weston' INDUSTRY ,be pleased to state: Electronics is one of the largest pro- ducers ot a number of appliances (a) whether attention of Govern- such as T.Vs. Tape Recorders, Cal- ment has been drawn to the press re- culators, Transistors, Videos etc.; and, port appearing in Economic Times dated the 22nd August, 1980 high- (b) if so, the details of the pro-' lighting the functioning of the Dis- duction for the last three years? trict Industries centres introduced by the Central Government in Sonepat THE MINISTER OF STATE IN District and the alleged malpractices THE DEPARMENTS OF SCIENCE in allotment of raw material quota; & TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRO-· NICS (SHR! C. p. N. SLNGH): (a) and Weston Electronics is one of the" (b) if so, reaction of Government largest producers of T.V. Sets, Tape' with regard thereto? Recorders and Calculatol"S. As regards Transistors (transistor radios) , they THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE are a small producer. They have just MINISTRY' OF INDUSTRY (SHRI commenced the production of Videos p. A. SANGMA): (8) " (b). Yes, Sir. (Video Tape Recorders). Comments of the State Government have been c~ for. (b) The details of production by' Weston Eledtronics for the last three' KWIstaa Moyemeat years are as follows:- 2388. SHRI CHANDRAJlT YADAV: ---. - - ..._--- --~--- WUl the Minister of HOME 1977 1979 AFFAIRS be pleased to state: ('8) whether Government' are a'Ware of growing ~ti-national acti- T.V. Sets 43851 3730 2 3742~: Vl"ties of 'the seceSsionist elements be- Tape Recordc-rs 7518 1509S hind the so-called 'KbaUstan' move- ment within the country and in U.t(. CalC'Ulators 10710' Jsf69,.. and other western COUDtrles; and· 2SS Written At'I8wer, DECEMBER 3, 1980 Written Answer, PaIdsta.nI Air esereiIeB In vielDit,. of POrt appearing in the HiRduatCln ...... Times of 6 October, 1980 under the heading Soviets allege Peking 2390. SHRl K. K. TEWARY: Will designs on Kashmir; the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: (b) to what extent these reports have been confinned by the In~ (a) whether the Government of Government; India are aware of the Extensive air exercises undertaken by the Pakis- (c) whether large-scale infiltration tani Air Force in the vicinity of our from China and Pakistan into Jam- borders; mu and Kashmir has been reported; (d) whether it is also a fact that (b) whether the exercises were both China and Pakistan forces are -directed and supervised by the concentrating on our borders in Chinese experts; Jammu and Kashmir; and (c) so, what steps have been if ( e) if so, what steps are being taken to maintain the balance betwe- taken in this regard? en the Pakistani and the Indian Air Forces: and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI SOME HON. MEMBERS rose- ~ I MR. SPEAKER: Untill I say some- thing, it is not to be put on record. ~t~.~T:~ ~, 1l • Al !f9r;r #it \5ft Sl~) if"~~ ¢f~r (~) : ~ di!mn eQually tbe threateniDe and .... 'ficwq: ~ ~ I actual ltilUng of young women on fhe question of dowry. Today, there is, itt. emf '-ft ~ mt, ".. ~ unlortunately. a sort of reftIrilli8t ~.~~~dtt~ movement and this must be met with ttni~ effort by, I hope, an sidea of \Jft 1fIT 'iT .,~ ~ 'lr 1ft{ 4'~ the House. 1ft ifP.f ?ffr ..rt SHRI NIREN GHOSH: I have also SHRI R. K. MHALGI (Thane) : gjven notice. Why i! there no implementation of law? MIt. SPZAKER: I am also very much worried. I think the Prime (Interruptions) Ministr is also seized. ot the 'Situation SHRtMATI INDIRA GANDHI: The and sbe knows that it is not a medie- law is implemented. 'But sometimes val.. We are nol going into that it happens .... My own belief is' where barbaric age. 1 think, the Home such Sat! cases take place, it is not Minister will make a statement on voluntary and probably the poor this question. (Interruptions). woman is pushed on the pyre. This MR. SPEAKER: When I am on my is my personal opinion .... legs, you .houkJ not. When I am on (Interruptions) my legs. you are not supposed to be. SHRIMATI IND:RA GANDHI: Action is taken when it happens. (Interruptions)· • MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on SHRI NIREN GHOSH; Most of the record. incidents have happened recently. Thousands .... We will not allow this nation to (Interruptions) lapse into revivalism. I think Gov- MR. SPEAKER: They have to pro- ernment is going to take some steps ceed against them. so that such things .... SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI: (InterruptioJls) That happened some time ago. I do not remember the exact date now. MR. SPEAKER: I take notice ot it. With regard to the procession I do The Home Minister is here and Prime not know the details. I do know that Minister too. They will make a state- tlrst the permission was given and ment. then it was withdrawn. (Interruptions) I am not aware of the details. If I say something nOW and if that does THE PRIME M1NISTER (SHRI- not give the correct picture, it would 'MA'Tt INDll\A GANDHI): There not be proper. should be no two opinions on this (Interruptions ) matter. Sat! is not only a medieval custom but today it is banned and is SHRU4ATI INDIRA GANDm: 'May against law. Naturally, we cannot I add a point. I believe there is a possibly encourage the brineing back proposal to build a temple for Sati. of this barbarous custom. It is not I hope, we shall have the support of only against women, but it· is against all sJdes of the HOUSe in trying to society and we condemn it with all prevent this. the force at oUt cOmmand as we COD- (lflUn'Uptions) ----.-- """_"--- 261 Re. tldi. MoOcm.r AGRAHAYANA 12, 190J (SAKA) Re. Ad;. MoCiom sa62 SHlU RAM JE'IHMALANI: Is vio- MR. fWEAKBB: Shri Mani Ram, I lence one-sid~d? have allowed Shri Jethmalani. You cannot speak. l&iR. SPEAK:EB: Whichever side. it is bad. I do not admire any such SIU,,,,., ~ J.iTHMALANl (Bom- thing. We will do sO.ll,leiliin&. bay-North West): I sought your lea:ve to mOVe motion for adjourll- ~t "QI~. li~. ((t~(~1() : ment. I understand just now that mmf iT, ~ m Pr ~ q'- yOU have been pleased to refuse your ~ ~ft' \~ ~ ~ ~ti' coD,Sent to tlilat. I bow to your deci- if m m- :;ion. I am not one ot those who ~ SHRI SATYASADHAN CHAKRA- (1) A copy of Notification No. BORTY (Caucutta South): Recently. S.D. 862(E) (Hindi and English there is trouble in certain universities. versions) published in Gazette of One or two universities have been India dated the 27th October, 1980 closed down. There is trouble in Ali- containing Order regarding levy of garh also. The students are on the Cess on manufacture of pulp, paper, move. I want the Government to paper board and newsprint, issued make a statement on that. under, section 9 of the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, MR SPEAKER: No Calling Atten- tion to be discussed here: not allowed. 1951. [Placed in LJbrar,y. See Nothing is to be recorded without my No. LT-1486/80] permission. (2) A copy of the Petroleum (Interruptions) • (Amendment) Rules, 1980 (Hindi and English versions) published in SHRY HARIKESH BAHADUR: You Notification No. G.S.H. 834 in Gazet- told the House on that day that you te of India dated the 9th AugUst, had referred the matter to the Minis- 1980, under sub-section (4) of sec- ter of Home Affuirs .... tion 29 of the Petroleum Act, 1934. MR. SPEAKER: You come to me [Placed in Library. See No. LT- and I will satisfy you. 1487/80, ] SHRI NIREN GHOSH: About RAW, (3) A copy each of the following the employees have been arrested and papers (Hindi and English versions) suspended on a large scale. The ad- under sub-section (1) of section ministration has been paralysed .... 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:- MR. SPEAKER: It is not a question (i) Review by the Government at all. on the working of the Andrew Yule and Company Limited, Cal- cutta, for the year ended 31st IS() Q'f;:r OF SGTB KBALsA COLLEGE, DELHI, (Sixth Lok Sabha) on International MEMORANDUM OF ACTION TAKEN, AND Film Festival. NOCIFICATION tTNDER Au.-lNt>1A SERVI- (2) Statement showing Action CEs AcT. Taken by Government on the re- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE commendations contained in Chap· MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND ter I of Ninety-third Report (Sixth DEPARTMENT OF PARLAMEN- Lok Sabha) on Relief of distress TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. VEN- caused by natural calamities. KATASUBBAIAH): I beg to lay on the Table:- (1) A copy each of the following 12.07 hr. papers (Hindi and English versions) MESSAGES FROM RAJYA SABHA under sub-section (4) of section 3 of the Commissions of Inquiry Act, Secretary: Sir, I have to report the 1952:- following messages received from the (i) Report of the Commission Secretary-General of Rajya sabha:- .. of Inquiry to look into the inci- (i) "In accordance with the Pro- dents of disorderly behaviour and visions of rule 127 o'f the Rules of unlawful detention of the D.T.C. Procedure and Conduct of Business buses on the road by the students in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed of S.G.T.B. Khalsa Callege, Delhi to inform the Lok Sabha that the on 8th November, 1979. Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held on (ii) Memorandum of Action the 1st December, 1980, agreed taken on the findings of the above without any amendment to the Report. [Placed in Library. Smugglers and Foreign Exchange See No. LT-1490/80] Manipulators (Forfeiture of Pro- perty) Amendment Bill, 1980, whiCh (2) A copy of Notification No. was passed by the Lok Sabha at G.S.R. 655(E) (Hindi and English its sitting held on the 12th June, versions) published in Gazette of 1980". India dated the 17th November, 1980 cancelling Notification Nos. (ii) "In accordance with the pro- G.S.R. 1153 and 1154 dated the 8th visions of rule 127 of the Rules of November, 1980, under sub-section Procedure and Conduct of Business (2) of section 3 of the All-India in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed Services Act, 1951. [Placed in to inform the Lok Sabha iliat the Library. See No. LT-1491j80] Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held on the 2nd December, 1980, agreed without any amendment to the Ter- ritorial Army (Amendment) Bill, 12.06 hrs. 1980, which was passed by the Lok Sabha at its sitting held on the 18th STATEMENTS OF PUBLIC AC- November, 1980". COUNTS COMMITTEE (iii) "In accordance with the pro- SHRI CHANDRAJIT Y ADA V visions of rule 127 of the Rules of (Azamgarh) : I beg to lay on the Procedure and Conduct of Business Table in English and Hindi versions in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed to Of the following statements:- inform the Lok Sabha that the Raya Sabha, at its sitting hela on (1) statement showing Action 2nd December, 1980, agreed 'with- Taken by Government on the re- out any amendment to the Bengal commendations contained in Chap- Chemical and Pharmaceutical Works ter I and final replies in respect of Limited (Acquisition and Transfer Chapter V at Ninetieth Report of Undertakings) Bill, 1980; which DlCCDIB_ J, 1110 was palJed by the LOk sabba at its patitffice and I have the patience. We ~tina httld on the 20th November, will 'hear it out. 1980." The question is: J'diJ h'is. ''That this House do agree with the Ninth RepOrt of ·the Business COMMrM"EE ON PRivATE MEM- Aavisory Commit(@e ·~ntecl -to BERS' BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS the House on the 2nd December, 1980." ELEvENTH REPoIr.r The motion waa adopted, SHltI G. LAKSHMANAN (Madras- North): Sir, I beg to present the Eleventh Report of the Committee on 12.11 bt"s. Private Members' BUls ana ~esolu tions. SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL), 1980-8J. u:tt hn. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE SAWAI SINGH SISOnIA): On be- ha 1f 0'[ Shri R. Vertkataraman, I beg NINTH REPORT to present a statement showing Sup- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- plementary Demands fOr Grants in TARy AFFAIRS AND WORKS AND respect of the Budget ( General) for HOUSING (SHRI BHISHMA NARAIN 1980-81. 'SINGH): Sir, I be, to move: "That this House do agree with the Ninth Report of the Business Advisory Committee presented to 12.12 hrs. the House on the 2nd December. MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 1980." (i) SUSPENSION OF CERTAIN TRAIN SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- SERVICES IN SOME ARD\S OF GUJA- lER, (Durgapur): Sir. I want to RAT DUE TO SHORTAGE OF COAL make a submission ... MR. SPEAKER: You come out with that on Friday. "" tt'aT ",f 1f1"( " 'Ii. vU : Now. the question is: ~ ~J -~ ~ it fqiN '*that this House do agree with ~ tprmf it ~, ~, 'lTCr- . the Ninth ... " ~, ~, ~ ~ ~-f.q1'31'11 SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA (Pon- it ~ ~ ~··iti ~ it ~ nani): About the time factor I want- fiforr ~ .~ ~ .~ tft 1ft t I oed to say ... ~ "~4~14i(;::, ~, ~, MR. sPEAKER. We will satisfy ~, ~, ~;pn:, YOU. < tl()n't worrY. \1''''' •• (, fC4(i4 i IlQ ~, ~ '~ ·it ~'~ 'smu G. Y. BANATWALLA.: Four ~ ~.r.t ~ ~ 'hours Therefore, I request the hon. Minis- ~ • it 1ft Cl"-ff ~ 7{ lShri Bhishma Narain Siqh] dered necessary. To avoid piece-meal unauthorised occ~ants are evicted legi&laijon, the Bill was withdrawn without aivin, Or publicatiOn of any from the Raj),. Sabha on 27-7-1977. notice. What i. now proposed is a comprehen- sive amendment of the Act to remove (6) To empower the Estate om- the dift\culties experienced and to eer to order payment of interest on streamline the ~levant provisions of arrears of rent Or damages in res- tbe Act 'tor its smooth operation. The pect of any public premises from amendment proposed contain. the fol- the defaulters. It bas been eXpe- lowing provisions; rienced that the occuPants of the public premises do not pay arrears of rent or damages for consider- (3) Shri Narayan Choubey occupation is set right. In the first (4) Shri N. E. HOro instance, there 1s a lot of unauthoris- (5) Shri Bhikhu Ram Jain ed occupation 1n respect of various (6) Shri R. K. Mhalgl slUms. It has really turned irito a nuisance in certaIn big citites and the (7) Shri T. Naaaratnam city's beauty is marred oy such (8) Shri Ram Vilas Paswan slums. It IS just like a cancer in (9) Shri Chiranji Lal Sharma the body. Government must lay down certain rules to see that suCh types (10) Shri Nawal Kishore sharma of unauthorised occupatl\')ns are stolt- (1'1) Shri Dharam Dass Shastri ped onCe and for all. Sir, particularly (12) Shri Ramavatar Shastri in big cities like Bombay, Calcutta, (13) Shri Bhlshma Narain Singh; Madras and Bangalore, what happens is, the foot-paths are being occupied and by the street-vendors and it is utterly (14) Shri Mool Chand Daga. impossible for the pcopl~ to go and with instructIons to rePort by the 31st make purchases there or pass through January, 1981." (2). that way. I do not know whether this particular Bill is applicable to the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: These other States also. But, as far as I can amendments are be~ore the House. understand, this is applicable only to Prof. Madhu Dawlavate-he is not the Delhi MlCtropolitan Area. In big here. Mr. Shamallna. you can speak cities like Bombay, Calcutta and on your amendmt'nt now. Bangalore, Central Govern:ment lands are there, which are unauthoriSedly occupied. I don't know many area SHRI T. R SHAMANNA· Mr. De- names in Delhi, but I can say this puty Speaker', Sir, I have' already about Bangalore. Sir, Bangalore is moved my amendment. I am speaking considered to be one of the most on my amendment now. Sir, this is beautiful cities in India. Near Banga- a very important Bill. But, I am very lore Railway Station there is an open sorry to say that the Bill is a very space ther~. It has been con~rted belated one. Al~ady heavy damage into a big slum. Vagrants go there has been caused by the encroachment and create a big slum there. If any- and by the unauthorised occupation bOdy steps out of the train in the of a number of Government and also Bangalore Railway station, he sees semi-Government lands. I am also this ugly sight; he sees this ugly slum sorry to state here that Government there. They have no lavatOry. The lands and semi-Uovernmenl' lands be- whole area is very dirty and pollutted longing to Central/State Governments and not fit for human being to walk are treated as nobody's properties now, there. Opposite the railway station, because, indiscriminately" th~ near the bus-stand, a large number of Government lands are being occupIed bunks and shops have sprung up. by these people unauthorisedly. We This has come about suddenly. These have already got an enactment in this are all quite unauthorised. Nobody is 'egard and even under the old Act able to mOVe about in the bus-stand t is. I think, it Was possible to pre- area because 0'[ these things. I don't vent this tYPe of unauthorised occu- know, Sir, how unauthorised bunks pation to a considerable extent. I am and shops are being allowed round afraid, uniess the Government takes about railway station and the bus- a clear policy decision, even under stand areas. Sir, it is not one or two this present enactment it may not be bunks Or shops; there are literally able to control the situation. With- hundreds of them there; (fovemment out clear policy deCision, it will be must take sOMe immediate action to very difficult even fOr the Govern- see that tl'e&€ bUllkS and shops do llOt ment to see that such unauthorised come up there in that area. Thtese P.M.B. & R. 279 DECEMBER 3, 1980 Comm. Repon 280 [Shri T, R. Shamanna] haVe put up 40 or 50 public foun- tains and each fountain is to be paid shops are opened to sell sundry arti- Rs. 4750 per year for water supply. cles. These structures are ugly and should be removed, The fountains are put up in various areas and the citizens are put to great hardship due to this. The unautho- In Bangalore city .. about 10 or 12 riSed structures which have come up ~ars ago. there were hardly 100 and which have been recognised are slums. Now, there are al:x:>ut 450 slums In BangaJore city, Of these, given facilities like water, etc. but they are at the cost of the general about 100 arc situated in the corpo- ration land, likewise 100 situated in public. Some 'pudaris' or influential lead~rs the Government land, 100 situated in plot out sites in the Govern- Bangalore Development Authority land ment lands and semi-Government and the rest in private lands. The lands and give them to the hut dwel- slums arc coming up like mushroom. lers. These leaders take some Rs. 100 Unless and until the Government or Rs. 200 from eaCh d~ller. These takes a drastic action, it will be im- leaders later bring pressure and some- possible to maintain the city beauty. how or other they try to retain those sites. I therefore request that' the The unauthorised occupation in these Central Government should seriously lands should be stopped. I may point think about this and see that growth out that the Government has not taken serious action to remove the slums. of slum is stopped immediately and the city is mad~ habitable by the The ruling party, in order to catch people. votes, is allowing the slums to come up and I am afraid that as long as the Go~rnm('nt is not interested in tak- ~ir, in this conn~ction, I may also ing strict decision in the matter, I am pomt out that when the orders for quite sure the slum problem cannot demolition are issued, the people be s.:>lved at all. I am not saying any- occupying the Government lands, thing against providing sites for poor semi-gDvernment lands, etc. unautho- and weaker sections. But let it be risedly go to t~ Court and get the done methodically and in a sci~ntific stay order. I want the Government way. The slums are created by poli- to examine this matter and see that tical parties. I am afraid that by this, whenever there is unauthorised occu- the city beauty will be marred and it pation Of the Go~rnment land, even will also endanger the health of the the court should not interfere and people Iiving in thOse areas. iSSUe a stay order. In many cases, somehow or the other, people get a In this connection. 1 just want to stay order and that oCcupation be- say a few words, regarding unautho- comes permanent sooner or later. rised occupation. In Bangalore, they have got a development authority, called Bangalore Development Autho- Steps should also be taken imme- rity. This authority allotted lands to diately to see that 'footpath vending SO many individuals. But most of the is stopped. In the central market, sites have been occupied by 'the slum tha t is, Krishna Chandra Market i.n dwellers unauthorisedly. n is a Bangalore, just opposite to the biggest matter of great regret thaf the autho- hospital in the State that is Victoria rities a~ not taking suitable action Hospital, there are about 200 bunk to cremolish these slums. Whenever shops On the footpath unauthorisedly demolition order is issued, pressure is occupied by a number of people. brought tram various political leaders There are many sueb places in big to stay the demolition orders. In the cities like Delhi, calcutta, Bombay recent by-election there, the Govern- etc. Further, in the market areas, ment recognised most of the unautho- shops haVe occupied most of the pas.. rised sluma just to catch votes. They sages that are left ill« the people to P.M.B. & R. AGRAHAYANA 12,. 1902 (SAKA) Comm. Report 282 move about. This is also requires to unauthorised shops and footpath vend- be taken care of. ing is allowed, it will be a great nuis- In this connection, it would be rele- anCe not only to the public, but at the vant to pcint out, that the Govern- same time, the beauty of the city will ment, for one reaSOn or the other. to be marred. favour their party men or others, generally give away very valuable Further, it has been noticed that the land kept for public parks or such Government officials continue to other purposes to various people. To occupy Government accommodation cite an example, the Government, not even after their retirement or transfer. the present one, but the previous one. Even the legislators do not vacate the allotted land in Bangalore belonging Government accommodation after to the Corporation where a stadium they have ceased to be members of had to be built up to a -rich person on a nominal lease. In Bangalore Can- the legislature. Steps should be tonment area, there is a big channel taken by the Government to see that carrying drain water. About half a unauthorised occupation of the Gov- mile land costing about Rs. two crores ,ernmQnt buildings by the Go~rJ1- has been given to a Bombay or Delhi ment officials or the Members of firm to build up a hotel on a nominal Parliament is also checked. Further, rent of Rs. 1800 per year and that it is also necessary to see that those drain area has 'beE'n leased out in this officers who have got their own manner. Such things should not be houses should not be allowed to done by the Government as it will remain in the Government quarters give 'further encouragement to un- by paying the normal rent. Govern- authorised occupation sooner Or later. ment officials rent out their own This question has to be studied deeply houses at exorbitant rent and live in and public opinion has to be given Government quarters at a nominal due weight age. rent. Steps must be taken to see that Government officers do not misuse I would also like to mention that in the facility given to them by the the Mandipet bazar area in Bangalore, Government lorries are made to park in such a way that not an inch of space for passen- gers using other means of conveyance Likewise, most of the temple lands is there to move about. From one end has been taken away unauthorisedly. of the bazar to the other. it will take Care has to be taken in that regard. at least two hours to pass, because A detailed study has to be made in the whole area will be filled up with this connection. Public cooperation lorries. Such things need to be look- is necessary in this regard. Unless and ed into, and some stern actiOn is- re- until public cooperation is there, it is quired to be taken. In Bangalore city, very difficult to do it. With this end on the new Mandipet and Mysore Road in view, I have moved the resolution area. Corporation tool{ serious action stating that the matter may be refer- and dismantled all the unauthorised red for getting public oplmon. structures on the Go~rnment land, on Heaven is not going to fall if you the footpath and that area has become wait for one Or two months and bring very beautiful now. a comprehensive Bill. To sympathise with the poor people is one thing and to a How them to put up sheds anywhere they like is an- With these words, I request that the other thing. Let the Govern- Bill may be circulated for getting ment develop some 1and and public opinion so that we may have give them in any number in a plan- a comprehensive and very effective ned way and we would be very enactment to check thesE:. unautho- ~PP!' f:l~t j.f unauthorised occupation, rised occupations. P.M.B. & R. DECErw1Bzn 3, 1980 Comm. Report SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT (East that policy of providing alternative Delhi): Mr, Deputy Speaker Sir, I am a('commodation. What I am trying to grateful to you for providing me an emphasise is this. The question of opportunity to speak on this Bill iJ<..op1e who are living there for almost which is very vital arid important, of "I) years, 60 years, 70 years, there are course, for the whole country, but ihousands and thousands of houses of IJarticularly for Delhi. POOr people, partkularly harijans in Karol Bagh, in Pahar Ganj, in various The .Bill, as it stands, applies to all ulh(':f partoS of the city, walled city; in ~uvcrU'mcnt lands, land of the DDA, I !1e trans-yamuna area and elsewhel'e; land or the Municipal Corporation, 1akhs of people live in theSe houses N :'>M.(: and pract1cally all lypes of which are in technical sense the land lands wilich can ue called as govern- ()f the government. In m.any cases, ment. or semi-government. land. The these lands were leased to various ncople, rich people long ago, 50 years liill, as Lat' as it goes [or givini power La the government to evict unautho- ago, 60 years ago. 70 years ago and rised persons from government land ::0 :-'cars ago. ThOse leases were Or I1ubtic premiSl's, is all right. I terminated; those leases have gone. de!initcly support the Bill. Blit I But these people continue to live want to point oUt the perspective in therf' in tf'chnically what i~ known which thc situation il:i pulc('d in Delhi : ~ unauthorised occupants. The gov- vis-a-vis the 50-called lllHlllthori:'ed ('t'nm~nt sf'nd to thf'm notice! of dam- canllot p:1y tho"e damages with the occupants. it might pl'rhn,),.; ~h(){'k d;:!11lrlges vre ealeulated on much some people i.o lolUw that in Dclhi hi~her basis and these poor people alone, which is the Capital City of India. I belicve. ~t If'nst 50 lakh p~oplc ~'anl1ot pay tho~e damages with th~ are Hving in all places. If oue werE:! result that when these notices for damages go to them, they feel to go by the !.itrkt interpretai.itlll of worried; then they approach sOJll1e- this Bill and each one of them Wl!re body and the ml\ttcr is stayed there to be thrown out, I am sure t hi:; gov- and then it J'('m:lins pendin!!. A ernmi.!nt has no illtcntioll to throw situation of absolute nncertainty pre- out the people. Since this GO\'Cl'n- vails there. These people haVe thf:ir mt'nt has takcn oyer) it has takcn up n very human apprOtlch and we have hQuS(~s for the last 60 years. Their no complaint of that kind What is grand-father WE're living there. Now, required to be done is not to allow their children arc living there. the situation to remain where it is. A very wholesome principle-T um just This proddes me with an opportu- stating the' fact-which Pandit nity to speak. We do not get an Jawaharlal Nehru had initiated was <1:Jportunity to speak. I am making to give alternathYe aceommodation to no grievances to speak on housing, the persons who were evicted. 'l'his because the Ministry of Works and was a human consideration and this Housini g(merally comes at a time. policy was followed all along by the during the budget allocati'ln, when Congress-I Government till 1977. ciiscussion does not take place. So, After that, this policy was given a go this provides me with an opportunity by perhaps rather certainly, I know. 1 hrough you, through your kindness because the then Prime Minister, Mr. to point out to the government that Morarji Desai $aid that alternative this question should be taken up and accommodation should not be given, a n these people. lakhs of people, who because it encouraged encroachment; are living on these lands. which are and that policy Was stopped. Anyway, tec-hnicalty government lands. where this government again went back to 1hey are living for a long time, the P.M.B~ & R. AGRAHAYANA 12, 1oo! (SAKA) Comm. Report 286 land should b, transferred to them; they are exploited, 'rhe Po:ice may they should be made owners of this go and drive them away, somebody land at reasonable prices, not the may take a bribe and harass these prices which exist today. people. Well, the hOll. Minister for Works and Housing is there. Through The price which they paid at that you, Sir. I want to aPPeal to him. He time, that price should be calculated is sympathetic to us. 1 appeal to him, and these lands should be regularised that these problems of so-called un- in their favour so that the regularisa- authorised occupation of lakhs ot tion takes place and this situation of people in Delhi, these problems must uncertainty does not go on hanging. be taken up and these problems must Now, Sir, I would like to say, my be liquidated in favour of the people. hOll. friend was talking of the foot- pathwala and the people who are working on the pavement. 1 am going Just now, Sir, they haVe issued to ~peak for the footpathwala. I notifications for acquisition of thou- certainly believe that we should have sands of acres of land. It was done a planned development of the city. previously alSO. I am not blaming We should not have bad things, we ;mybody for that. We had not barred should not have slums; We should not it previously also. Now also land have this, we should not have that. has been taken. Now the land is And in Delhi the best work was done t3ken, notices are issued for years during the Emergency when over ten together, for 10 years, 15 or 20 years. lakhs of people were settled, in 27 But the Government has no money. new townships. The compensation is not paid tpday. (lntermptions) All the cases afe not taken up. The notifications are there, technically. You might laugh. I got 90 per cent People go and buy that land Of squat vok:!s from them. What do you knoW? upon it, or do mmething about it. The I know better. (Interruptions). result is that lands which are under Please don't disturb me. I can ;lcquisition or in th(, process of acqui- dif.:turb you much more. Don't do it sition, there are thousands and thou- with me. (Interruptions). sands of houses lakhs of people arc living in houses on lanlis which are under acquisition or in the process of I am submitting for your kind consi- acquisition. The question of regulari- deration, that the men who work on sation of these hOUSes is also there. In the footpath, the vegetable seller or the year 1977, our Government, in any other person, they are a very which I happened to be a Minister, it important link in the chain of distri- tnok a decision to regularise such bution. I personally believe that ('onstruction and interpretation was these hawkers, the people who are put Up that land will not be acquired, working on the road-side they should but only land which is in the process be helped. I am not for oCcupation of acquisition will be acquired. This everywhere spoiling the city. Subject internretation was also put up by the to those constraints, I feel that these J an~ta Party Government as a result people should be recognised, they of which they started demolition in should be given a suitable place and Tu~hlakabad. We went there. pro- they should be given land at Tehba- tested and demanded for a number of zan rates. They are, to some extent, c1ay~. What I am submitting is, those the people who can also keep the houses which are built-houses or prices down. Everywhere the un- pUCCn houses where a number of scrupulous trader, aDd theSe footpath- people have been living, before the walas and similar fellow, who are nrob1em of acquisition eame up, they technically unauthorised occupants, haVe some title, they should be regu- P.M.B. & R. DECEMBER 3, 1980 Comm. Report 288 [Shri H. K. L. Bhagat] [Shri H. K. L. Bhagat] larised. The question Of unauthorised occupation should not be merely in 1ff~~ it; m ~;;@ ~ ~ the technical sense. I know this Gov- m~mij~~*lfCfi"A~ ernment has no intention of uprooting ~ AA ~ I ~ ~ ~ ~ ~, "3";'f ~ 'l,'m and We are satisfied with the ~ ~ ~ way they are performing. I take this fuit m f.fim *, opportunity to raise the voice of the ~ ifi ~ titt ~ ~ CfiT ~ poor people and yOU are committed m fit;rr, ~ Cfh ~ if ~ fuin ~ to them, we are committed to them, ~ ~ ~ ~~~ our Party is committed to them and W tfil the manifesto says that this Govern- ~~~~;r.f~~ftt;m ment wi11 take up the question of ijf1(f'fT, m ftfim m :f'P-f ~ ~ Pm rcgularisation also. This is what I CfiT fqtp:r ~ ~ want to submit, Sir. mm it , '-t( ~oi "-I'UlfGf r~ (.f~4T) : ~ ~ oTcti ~ fofi ~'-T~ ~ ~, mJr ~ it ~ '41 "f1'hi i1 W; ~ ! J;fflT "37-f ciT ~ it ~ (~~ ~ \P'''P:fl occurred in vatious parts of the RBStGNATION By MEMBER country duri~ the last tl?r~ (S~ri Ja~nnat~ Pak4_di4) months." llR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have ~. Speaker, Sir, as ~u have ve-q nghtly observed just now, it is a very to inform the House"'"Uiat today the cornpli~ated issue, which has to re- Speaker received a letter from Shri ceive the attentiOn of the entire House .Jagannath Pahadia. an elected Mem- in sUCh way that the situation would ber Of Sabba from Bayana-S.C. a Lok' not ag.-avate 1'urther. 'BUt when constituency 0'1 Rajasthan resignin, we lOOk atthe genesis ot tbe' commun&1 ~ sea,t in Lok Sabha. The Hon. riots. we haVe to tr~ce right Speaker has accepted the resignation It troin 1~7, when the two-natiOn theory ·wu "ith effect from 3rd December, 1980. propagated, on the basis of which the 13 hn. country was viVisected. The country The Lok Sabha adjourn for lunch which was created as a result of it had tjU fourteen 01 the Clock. ~lso adopted the same methodology. inStead dI. becoming a theocratic State. The Lok Sabha. re-asBembZed after T~ MINISTER OF STATE IN TUB Lunch at four minutes part Fourteen MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ~ of the Clock. ' DEPARTMENT of PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI p. VENKA- [MR. SPEAXllIB in the Chair] TASUBBAIAH):"lt was not On that byis; it is b~t\~ that you forget that. MOTION RE SITUATION ARISING OUT OF RECENT COMMUNAL SHRI B. V. l)ESAl: We haVe no' RIOTS agreed to it. I was traCing the root MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members we cause from that end. We are proud are now to start the discussion on' the We haVe declared ourselves a secular MotiOn relating to communal riots. state and We are continuing like tbaJ. I will request the hO::1. Members to be 14.0'7 bra. constructive, positi~ and restrained. [MR. DEPuTY-SPEAKER in the Ch4i1"] We are to find a remedy to the malaise. Therefure, we should be careful that But instances are there where sP-ay some utterances here and there, may cases of communal troUble had occUr- not aggravate the situation. I have :~ eyer~ year. In tac~, the holoca~ full confidence in your capability but m 1947 1<: bevond the comprehension still we should be very careful Of our of anybody, and that is the darkest contribution. I think., this House as a period iT} the history of the Indian whole, represents the will o'f. the free sub-continent. After that. we got set- nation to exist and continue its march tled down and started afresh. towards prosperity, development and If we look at the £gures, we :find ~rogress. We are not to be taken in that for such a bie country they are by a small number of p~ople. who are introverts, diehards, who are not conS- n~t much. But. even then there are str:.lY or occasional cases. 'For f$Ome ~uctive in apprQach and we should periOds th~y are more and tor SOIne ~ot, and shan not. aJlow thes~ people *0 mar the future of oUr great nation. periods th~y are less. With these words, I thinIt everything The numher of people killeri in ~ going to be constructive and prO- communal inddents year-wise from ductive. 1966 to 1979 were ae; foPows: ] 968- 45: 1967-251; 1968-133; 196t- SHRT B. V DESAI (Raichur): I 674; 19'70-298; 19'71\..-1~; 19""2- beg to move:' 70· 19'73-72· 19" ~,t· 197tJ- "That this Uquse do ~o~sider the 3~~ 1;9'76-39~ 19'J7-35~ tWa- ~atio.n ~nS~f! 011t o~ the Ul)nre- 1~~; 1?7~~. Th~ ~9Qual a:y~gel9r ~ted ~,~~ ~. ~t the' years 1966 to "196'7 wOr1at e~f .~ Situation arising out Of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 2t2 (Mot",.) [Shri B. V. Desai] SHRI CHANDRAJIT YADAV (Azamgarh): In other countries _1M 193. The period 1967 to 1970 was one they live in peace and harmony. witu of acute communal tension. However, good relations. with conserted efforts and constant vigil, the situation improved marked- SHRI B. V. DESAI: So far I have ly and both the number of commu- mentioned on Iy the communal organi. nal incidents and the ~umber of sations. I shall come to YOUr party deaths came down appreciably.. and also and what you are doing. the annual average of persons kill- ed in the period 1972 to 1976 was Actually, almost all the Christian only 60. Communal incidents again countries are basically Christiall , shot up in 1978.. 79, raisinl the ave- though they may not declare them- rage. selves to be so The Muslim coun- TheT-e is illObody in th1s country tries similarly "arc basically Muslim who will not condemn communa 1 though they may not declare themseL riots. Some people say that Muslims \ es to be SO. cut some of them have were killed more, some say tilat also so declared. Communist countries Hindus were killed more. Anyway, are basically communist, as commu- communal riot is a carna.ge and it nism is also a sort of religion. (In.te-r- definit:~iy rer ults in human suffering. rupt\ons) Not only nre the persons killed no I am pro lId of my country beinIJ more but their relatives suffer, and secular and I would lie to say that it leaves a legacy in the town or State every ~ne of us should support the wh.eTe it happens Thereiorer our secularism propagated by Mahatma Government it taking stern steps to Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru. Jt ~ CU1'1b these incidents. being pursued very ably by our be- loved leader Shrimati Indira Gandhi But then We have to see the role (.If and she is carrying on the same tra- the ditf.ercnt communal organisations dition. (InteTrUptions) in our country, I do not want to name them, they are both Hindu Vf.hen you get a chance you Dl&Y and Muslim. Government must tell anything but why do you disturb? come down with a heavy hand to ban them Or d{J something very effec- My Motion is pertaining to th~e tive, SO that their nefarious activities months. There is a reason behintl are stopped. this because right from 1947 the com- munal tension and the commu.nal One word of caution is necessary. riots were of stray aDd ot di1ferent Hindu communalists should know types of nature. But of late the after 33 years that the minority foreign countries are also entering community has to be protected, and and right from Moradabad, actuall7 have liVe here, they cannot they to it is condemnable, there are so many go anywhere. So, they should try to lives which have been lost; but let adjust themselves. The communal Us go into the deep rooted cause on elements among the Muslims also this. After 33 years of independence. should understand that they haVe to unless foreign elements intervene and liVe here, there is no other go, and support the miscreants in our count- they have to support the secular ry riots will not take p1ace. For this trends in our country SO that we can Prime Minister has also mentione4 build up a secular State. time and again. I will quote- Ours is the only country in the PM sees foreign hand behiatl world which is secular. riots. SHRI A'TAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE Bid to tnmish India's image. '(New Delhi): 'ntere are other count- "She also referred to the infor- ries also. mation she had received froa ~93 Sit.4tion ariring AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) out of TeCent 294 communal rio't3 (Mom.) various sources, including individu- meeting was called upon of right als about the suspected foreign hand thinking people who had interest of behind these incidents. An atte1npt the country to resist these efforts -was being made, she pointed' out, aimed at destroying fabric of national to create rnisW1derstandin& aboUI. life and to create national harmon. India amo,lg Muslim countries. pcif_ All the twelve Chief Ministers of the ticularly in the Arab world." Northern part of the country deli- Actually, of late, the Arab world, berated and this is 'he result of the Middle East is flowing with mone:v. deliberation NaturaLy. eyery one of Us including In this connection umpteen number . other countri~s also do require petrol. of reports are there. Wherein foreign petroleum prGducts. Money is ftov,,'_ nationals have come. Even in Mora- ing there. Pre':ious~v it was not the:-c dabad 500 Pakistanis were present FOur or fiVe years ;gn, it hr-.s startei. when the riot took place. 1 quote: We have got very good relationship with all thos~ countries. Our neigh- "About 550 Pakistani nationals bours, unfortunately, both the COUlL were in Moradabad last month tries are theocratic military dictat... )r- when the riots broke out, 8C'Cordlna ships. In fact, dictatorship itseif is to the Lahore Urdu Daily Mashriq. quite bad and military dictatorship 30 Pakistanis were killed in riots. and that too with theocratic ideology! The papers say. the remaininl You can imagine how difficult it is Pakistani nationals were mostly for India. such a ,big country, with hiding in the houses of their rela- diverse cash'!, communitiE:s religion tives; it said adding that the Indian and language. It is so diffidult. There- police were carrying out searches fore it is the duty of every right to trace them." thinking perSOn in this CQuntry to stabilise the Goverrunettlt, a secular Now. actually. by and large. as I Government. The secular Govern- know, an Indian Muslim is a nation- ment is there and it is up to them alist. He hates to be suspected. especially the communal elements in both the camps, in both the religions SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU who support it. (Diamond Harbour): And all Pakis- tani Muslims are communalists, ac- I can quote umpteen number of cording to you. things- SHRI B. V. DESAI: 1 thought Mr. 'eM see foreign elements behind J yotirmoy Bosu will create trouble disruptive forces' only during the zero hour. He is now also doing the same. Keep it yourself Chief Ministers twelve northern for the zero hour. States to-day expressed the view that SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Don't certain disruptive and devisive forces draw a zero here. apparently encouraged by foreign elements were trying to destroy the SHRI B. V. DESAI: Even Sheikh fabric of national life by creating Abdullah has testified to it. He is the hatred and other law and order prob- one tall nationalist Muslim. Few may lem and attempts were being made to agree with his po ~icies. But so far promote communal hatred through as his national outlook is concerned, propaganda. nobody can question. I quote him: -The Chief Minister felt that the "Jamaat gets West Asia funds- sinister anti-national elements, some Sheikh." of whom apparently being erroourag- Just now, I said that Middle East ed bv foreign elements which were countries, Arab countries, are flow- behind these movements needed to be ing with money and that money • iclentifted and squarely dealt with. A being used 1 further quote: (Shn B. V. Desai] India, I can aive ~ tqo ~ .• "Sheikh Abdullah. the Chief SHRl JYOl'lli1l4O~ BO:»U: On a Minister of Jammu and Kashmir point ~ ord~. under rwe 4l(2Hldx>. said today that the Statt: Jamaat-i- It. says that the House 'anall not Ialami which was a<:cllSed Of fomen- reler discourteOUSly I.() a lrlendly alJe~ ting trouble in the V recently foreign country'. Pakiata.n. ia a COUll- was getting from oil rich West try With whom we have diplOmatiC Asian countries. be It would not relations. We coruuder Pakistan aALi unlikely t hat Pakistan also helped also Bangladesh to be countr_ the Jamaat whose activities were w.hicll are not unfriendly to us; .. not conducive to peace and are tryin& to improve our re.1atio_ harmony. Speaking at a meeting wlth them. In that context. 1 would of the Preas Club of IoQia, the appeal to him thro\1&h you. not .. Kashmir leader answered questions maKe deroaatory observations willt on a wide variety of ~ubjects for regard to our neighoourmg and about an hour." fnendly countries and also other fnend).y countries. »Ven• in Kashmir also, they are quite .. active. !4R. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Ii is correct. Please see that yo\,l do Dq' I would like to \ell one thing that make such remarks again.It Q~ fr~ the motiQn which 1 have brougbt for dly countnes; w uy owy InencUy these three months is only basically countries, even against our enemy this that. the texture of communal COWl tries ·because that is not oUr cul- riots has changed. Unless the Gov- ture; we do not decry anybody thQuaIl ernment tak.es a serious view of this they are our enemies; leave aside and. take immediate action, the pro- friendly countries, even against our blem will not Qe solve SHRI CHANDRAJIT YADAV: Is Actually the steps which the pre- he representing the views of the sent Government are taking to create ruling Party? communal harmony for example wherever possible the special 'tyJ1e of ( Interruptions) POliCe which Shri Zan Singh has pro- "SHRI B. V. DESAI: After all, we posed-I think, will solVe the pro- are"all Indians. Ours is a secular blem. You have to locate the places where usually communal tensions Sfate.•• happen. But. naMealIy. unless the :MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is economic conditiotJs aYe ~eCi, it 299 Situation arising out 01 DECEMBER 3, 1980 f'ecent commUMl ricO 300 (Motn.) i. very difticult. It is nothing but a SHRI B. V. DESAI: Mr. Deput)'- fight for bread. The Muslims mostly Speaker, Sir, some Members on the belon, to the weaker sections; econo- opposition bench have got a little mically they are very backward 80 far irritated when I told the truth. It is as our area is concerned; in fact, they a home-truth. (InteTTUptions). do not have much... MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, you AN HON. MEMBER: Amenities. go to your next point. SHRI B. V. DESAl: Because they SHRI B. V. DESAI: Actually, it is prodUce more children. That is the an economic problem. If you want to reason. do something, some good worllr., please go to the villages and see that Sual ABDUL SAMA.D (Vellore) : the family planning is adopted by the It is very umortunal.e tb.at the ru.lin& Muslims also. That will create a Party baa aaked Mr. l)eS8i to irutiate gOOd impression there and they will such an important disCussion. Just have their own status... (lnte1"Tup- now our Deputy-Speaker pve a piece tions). Sir, I do not want to take of advice, to be conatructive, make to mUch of the time. Actually there ueetul ...e.tions. This aentleman are so many points. Though one has taken 36 minute. and 80 far, he point is a very ticklish one, it is a has not made even a single concrete most important one. As the Speaker point. is only invitin, trouble He has aptly given us a little guidance from all sidea by rubbina them on stating that We should not go beyond the wrong aide. He says that even a certain limit, I restricted myself Mr. Sheikh Abdullah is a tall natio- only to thOSe points that have been nalist. That topmost nationalist was made by me. I request the House to awarded 1. years of jail in this take up this motion. country I Also be saYs that the Mus- lims are produCing more children and that is why they are backward. I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion challenge his statement. Let him be moved: constructive. Let him say how many "That this House do consider the children he has. situation arising out of the unprece- dented Communal riots that occur- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: When we red in various parts of the country are diSCUSSing communal riots, let during the last three months." there not be a political riot in the House. (Interruptions). MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Banatwalla. You mOve your Sub- SHiRl P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: stitute Motion. Let him complete his speech first. Whatever they want to say, they can SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Mr. say later when their tum comes. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I move:- SHRI JAMILUR R..AHMA.N (Kisban- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It has ganj): The time tha\ has been allow- already been circulated to the Mem- ed is only tour hours. This Is a very bers. important subject Therefore, no time should be lost and It should be main- SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Let tained. me read it out so that they can make suggestions. ADd certainly, everybocb' MR. DJ:PUTY -SP:U:lt'I:a: Mr. wm be able to say something. So, let Desai, pleaae conelude now. me read it out. 301 AGRABAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out of recmt 302 communal riots (Motn.) SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAlAH: (iv) expresses its anguish. and It has already been circulated. indignation at excesses and at the indiscriminate exercise of power. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Sir, of detention against the innocent, you have permitted me. Why the detaining even the lawyers of those lIinister of State for Home is very being prosecuted, and harassing and much agitated? detaining even thoSe renderina MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Let him relief and succour to the unfortu- ':ave that satisfaction. nate victims, thereby paralysina all SHRI G. M. BANATWA.LLA: Sir, relief work; and move: I • , (b) recommends to the Govern- 'That for the orignial motion, the ment, inteT-atia, following be substituted, namely:- (i) to take all immediate and "This House, having consi- appropriate steps for the ameliora- dered the situation arising out ot tion of the situation, punishment of the unprecedented communal those guilty including officials, and riots that occurred in various for promotion of communal har- parts of the country during t.he mony, particularly in the light of l~ three montha:- the aforesaid observations; MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. (ii) to accept and secure imple- BanatwaUa, you can make all the mentation of the Srinagar decision points when you make the speech. of the National Integration Councll holding the highest POlice and di8- SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Let triet officials responsible for any lne continue. communal violence; (a) (i) views with serious con- (iii) to undertake, without any cern the magnitude and shocking further delay, relief and rehabilita- prolongation Of communal violence tion of the victims of violence; especially at Moradabad which is (iv) to initiate l~tlon aDd for- still smouldering in communal fire mulate schemes for compensation despite four months; to victims of communal riots; and (ii) expresses its sense of shock (v) to ensure substantial repre- and alarm that the law-enforCing Sentation of Muslims and other agencies and the peace-keeping minorities in police, para-military forces failed to remain immune to and law-enforcing agendes to give the dreadful virus of communalism them a truly secular and c0smo- and acted with marked communal politan character.'" propensities and fury; Now you allow me to explain. (iii) condemns the attempt on the part of some authorities to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shrl circulate wild aDd baseless allega- Ghulam Mohammad Iq1an. tions. with respect to riots, among the news agencies and newspaper eft'~~wt (ijdCiiaUCi): reporters, many of whom proved readily gullible, rendering the a'q16ZU" ~, lIW ifil' ilCifdlifii tt~~l-q~: ~ ~ ~~m-m~~ ~ ~, ~ '" '" ~ ~ ~, Gtt ri ~ w, ~ ~ ~ aft, ~thf\' ~ iffi1' t I ~l:: m- m cri f4tf"ifC::( ~ • ·Expunged as ordered by the Chair. ~ ~, ~ w CfCRT 1:<14' .. ,( it () 7 ation arising out Of DECEMBER 3, 1980 ,.ecm.t communal riots go (Motn.) 'fT I itit m ~ ~-3fII'( tit if11flffif ~ ~ ~ it I If\' 0 $IT( 0 tt 1T)ft;p.rt ~ ~ vfi , '(tCti \1T1J{, ~ro~~~.q~~ irlT ~ m Ci'R ~ ~ if ~ 1 ~ CfiT w.r eFt ~ ~r~Pf."wt: ~ ~~~ a~w~it~ctt qm ~ ~ -fto o ~o ~ ~ ~ I ~ m tt ~ fit; ~ ~ tn:: melq lIT ~ ~~~~vrrl~~ fcp:rr~ I ~~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ if; ~ 'q(ff ;rt a, it ctt f~4Celf('fi~ ~Rmf ~ ~ ~ ~ tit t dltr _ ~'~"tt()'~o ~ ~ ~.... tt\' ~ "" ~ ~ ~5I1ft ~ t itt ~ ~ F:f itffl ttl' m Jt I.., if. 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What has happened in So, Moradabad is a stray incident Koradabad is the second Jallianwalla according to !4rs. Indira Gandhi. Our Bagh. 650 houses and shops belonging friend, opposite, particularly the to the minorities have been looted Muslim friends, will relilh it, I take It. completely, mohalla-wise. NObody can tell us what is the exact .figure The policies and practices of the ot casualty and death. It can be any- Government and of the ruling party thing between 500 and 600. There was are fostering, rather than controllin, butchery on a mass scale by the Or destroying, communal forces. Secu- police. In the very first round of larism in this country is nothing but firing~ne round means one bullet; a wall flower, if you understand what let my friends understand it-at least I mean, only a conception on paper. 300 people fell immediately. We have You have got a beautiful list from no figures as to how many died. and 1947 till tOday, communal elements how many became seriously injured. branded like RSS, branded like anti- Congress; so many other political par- There was the police, injected with ties, the ruling party and the opposi- political patronage. backed by supe- tion parties, they are aU having full rior fire power, supported by the arm freedom to have their way and do of law, protecting them. On the other what they like. hand. the Muslims were poor fellows and they were unable to defend them- There is no control on the police selves. So, they became poor victims. force by this Government. That is the simple truth, which they do not rea- Do yOu know that the High Priest lise, which they will ncver realise. of Mecca Sherif bas made an emo- If yOu take their ndventures during tional reference to this in one of his the elections, the police will want a recent pronouncements? Could you return in Heu, and this is what has not imagine what is its political re- happened in Moradabad. You cannot action in the Muslim world, the loyal touch the pollce; your very existence world? They say they should have a depends on how you treat the police, second look at India. because they are your God fathers. But what is the Home Minister do- The political elements mixing reli- ing? Is he worth the salt? He goes lion with politics are deatroying our there, waxes eloquent. praises the secularism. Let Us go to the root of police, defends the police, closes the it. In fact, the civil administration chapter and goes for a nap. This is a and the police combine and even very serious matter, because the en- those who want to remain good are tire Muslim world is agitated that not able to do SO· India has become a Hindu Rashtra. We have to be in that sort of coun- Moradabad is the worst example in try. recent times, why in recent times, at all times. What was the gathering for Another serious thing is there is the Id? We are told that it was business competition. A genUeman 50,000 Muslims. If they had come for who belongs to a powerful political rioting, would they have brought party, one Mr. Dayanand Gupta, Pre- their children? They congregated, tor sident of a powerful political party, prayer on the holiest day of the year. Town Congress Committee ..• If they came for rioting, they would not have brought their children with AN. HON. MEMBER: Congress (I). them. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Cong- AN. RON. 'MEMBER: We are not ress (1). be says: agreed. Is be not saying that. known in Moradabad as a friend ot AGRABAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out of recent sa' communal riots (Mom.) the RSS, rather than a friend of wbat gled to Pakistan where they were they preach? You ask any man, or 10 exhibited? WhY? Whose is the unseen incognito and find out. hand? Which hand is wanting to dis- turb tbe friendship between India and I have talked to anotber, Daudyal Pakistan? Khanna. a party executive of the same party in the Town Committee. You have the RAW. You are beating an ex-Minister in Mr. C. B. Gupta's the subordinates. What are they do- cabinet. He is the leader of the Hindu ing? What is your budget? Can I dis- 'Jrassware exporters. He has a grudge close it in the House or shall I hold it against the Muslim community ... in the national interest? All the (Interruptions ) money is being swallowed. and win- I have given notice under rule 353. ning and dining is part of the adven- ture. We know that is why this sort MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Yes, he of thing is happening. has given notice. Two DSPs, circle officers of Mora- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: . . . be- dabad, Ashok Mishra and Pandey, are cause, out of a total value of Rs. 5 known as twin butchers. I would like crores exports of brass vessels, the to ask the Home Minister why they Muslims have a share of Its. 3 crores, have not been transferred inspite of in an area wruch is eConomically more ]'epcated demandl>? I am told even by backward than others. He wanted to the present district magistrate: no, reverse this, sO this riot. As a result, they are indispensable. shops are looted. We have given them complete freedom. Binode Kumar Gupta, another party executive, I am told, circulated a book Ravinder Pandey, M.L.A, the great on the subject "Moradabad Burning'" hijacker hero against whom the case and he said that Moradabad was be- has been withdrawn, came running to ing encircled by Muslims, SO Hindus Delhi the very next day after the must beware, and be on a war footing. Moradabad butchery had taken place. Wonderful plan. Nothing new. I have He took four car-loads of journalists been watching these riots from 1967. and news photo agencies, and phto- graphs were taken, and those photo- I would like to ask the Home graphs were liberally distributed. Do Minister-I am re~ponsiblc for every- you want to see them? Some of them thing I say-why there was an un- are here, ghastly photographs. It is a usually big posse of Provincial Armed matter of deep shame that these pho- Constabulary and thc Civil Police tographs go out to the world, and force near the Idgah this year. Did people see that these things are bap- you apprehend a riot? Was that your pening in India. intelligence report? If so, what spe- cial precaution did you take see Which party do they belong to? to that it was nipped in the bud? I am Where do they get their strength told that the Imam Saheb in Morada- from? They get their strength from bad has said: "This is the first time the powers they have, with the know- the police came to my house to escort ledge that the police can dare do me to the Idgah." While coming back such things because they know they after the namaz and the massacre, he will be protected. This is a shame, and came through the Hindu areas alone, this is what worries me most. and nobody touched him. Here in What is not done to discredit the Boradabad hardly any Muslims are present U.P. regime? Was it not also involve. an outcome of the inner party fight? They are very good at concocting Is it not a fact that the T,V. camera- figures-200, 150, 300. I have verified men went to Delhi-Mr. Sathe mq them from knowledgeable people, I enlighten me, if I am wrong I will will not mention their names, and stand corrected-and films were smug- they say it is between 600 and 700. 327 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 32«- ■ (Motn.) [Shri Joytirmoy Bosu] I want to cite a case of a dhobi, a The Home Ministry will not give you washerman Jhariram. Jhariram was the figures because that is against doing his ironing in his own house. the national interest. We want to hold Police came and caught hold of him. the police and the civil administra- They first of all examined him. They tion also fully responsible for this. wanted to examine him whether he was a Hindu or a Muslim. When they MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have found that he was not a Muslim, they to conclude now. fired around which touched the skin of the belly and the man out o^ SHRi JY5TIRM0Y BOSU: The shock and nervousness fell and he utterances of the Prime Minister and was taken to the hospital. The peo- her lacky His Masters Voice the Home ple were made to believe that Mus- Minister—utter callousness and indi- lims attacked harijan dhobi and that fference. is why he is in hospital. Do you want {Interruptions) the figure—how many Muslims were admitted and how many non-muslims Instead of being ruthless with the have been admitted? Swell the figures officers who connived and failed to of non-Muslims, you put the Muslims act, they went on defending the in the dock. All trick, we know. police. They want to raise two batal- lions. I hear from my young friend Shri Makwana. What about the story of finding AN. HON. MEMBER: Three. Bombs in mosque in Lucknow? Do you know what a bomb is? It is a tiny SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; Three. cracker. They immediately get it pub- Still better. 1200x800x12 a month, lished in the press. Let me tell you very easy to calculate plus P.E.T. hardly any big riot can last unless Peace Establishment on Table. What money, civil administration, police is that you know? The stock from and powerful political patronage is where you recruit the PAC, the stock there. That is precisely the reason from where you recruit CRP and the in West Bengal. We in West Bengal Border Security Force, majority of firmly deal with any riot that is them are Hindus. What do you ex- created. Many efforts were made to pect—a difference in change of beha- create riots. Every time we have viour? What happened in Jama Mas- battled them and we do it as speedily jid riots? CRP man went to the third as possible. Do not leave it to civil floor and fired at Miss Farida, a B.A. servants and p>olice. That is a stake in student of 18 at point blank range this country. i am proud to say there and she became almost invalid for Muslims feel fully secure. They con- life. I have a tape recorder in this sider West Bengal belongs to them House itself. My friend Shri Misaryar also. You ask anybody. Here the Ahmed Khan wiil» perhaps, remember. matter is totally different. Here riot What will they do by raising batal- starts in Moradabad, travels to Ali- lions? They want to be protected by garh, Allahabad and all over the policemen. What did your own Minis- country and they remain passive ter Jafar Sherif say? You take it spectators in beautiful air conditioned with the pinch of salt or you give buildings of South Block and North him a notice to quit. He said there Block. is no cause for firing, no cause for provocation. Yet officers have re- mained practically untouched! The Now they have started victimisa- police in Moradabad as they are al- tion. Riot victims and peace workers ways very cunning in beating up the are being arrested mainly under Na- harijans, burning the houses, make tional Secxirity Ordinance to prevent people believe that Muslims are do- people from deposing before the En- ing it. quiry Commission headed by District ^O/LXVA) communal riots (Motn,) Magistrate. That is the Enquiry Com- SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAHri mission—a District Magistrate who I am talking about the name of Shri will sign on the dotted line! I will Daudyal Khanna. give an example. Khan Avshad Parvez, tb^ son of a retired railway emplo- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He has yee, District Committee Member- not mentioned the name of Shri D. D. CPM, working for peace and amity— Khannat Let me go through the pro- police declared him absconder, to de- ceedings. tain him under National Security SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: Ordinance, to prevent him from de- Please go through the proceedings. ' posing and confiscated a little mov- He has specifically mentioned the able property. So, this is widespread. name of Shri Dau Dyal Khanna. In conclusion, I want figures of com- munal riots and the figures of its MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will go victims of 1980. through the proceedings. (2) Liberal reiliabilitation grants SHRI ZULFQUAR AJA KHAN: He and loans to victims of these riots. has mentioned the name of Shri Dau Dyal Khanna very clearly. It is a (3) Immediate arrest and prosecu- fact. Shri M. M. A. Khan. tion of officers involved and political leaders irrespective of their political ’l^o ^ (rm ) ; affiliations. 47 % ^ 33 (4) Judicial inquiry to be insti- tuted headed by a sitting Supreme Court judge. ^ I fsw w % I I (5) A riot insurance scheme to be vft if 97%" I introduced at once for covering the o ^ weaker sections of the society and, zr? TT5T I fTITRK if particularly, the minorities. ft prr I w The National Integration Council I” I should initiate at all levels all-party peace committees to ensure peace and “Eld festivities in two cities of harmony in future and save Muslims northern India were marred by po- from the butchery that they are fac- police violence that could have been ing every day. avoided.** t Tr tr ^ SHRi P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, Mr. Jyotir- 3TT 5RIT «TT I moy Bosu has referred to certain ^ firrft ^ snr 'n€f % people who are not here to defend tl^emselves. He has mention the s r ^ ^ % ar 1 1 name of Shri Daudyal Khanna. To ^ ^ %lTt^ w t, my knowledge, in his notice, he has ^ « f t f e n not mention the name of the parti- cular gentleman whom he has men- W t ?ftT ^ tfTTTcT m ^ tioned on the Floor of the House. I srrqr ^ 1 t ^ ^ qrnrre ^ want you to verify it. If the name is I there, I have no objection. But if the name is not there, you please ‘‘Actually, the disturbance was verify it... planned to be got started on 19-8- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Joy- 1980, when some notorious persons, tirmoy Bosu has given the name of reported to be PAC personnels ^‘Shri D. D. Sharma” in his notice. managed to hank a piece of pig on w (Motn.) [«sfV irf^trwoiTiToCro g t of the Muslims in Tara Babu ki the door of Shahi Masj id, in Khul- Gali. They also entered into the dabad on G.T. Road. Tha S.I., Muslim locality under the shelter Khuldabad, Shri Mohd. Wasim of PAC personnel and attacked the Khan, averted the situation tact- Muslims. Some Muslim boys were fully and calmed the Muslim mob. collected to resist the mob inside This tactful, efficient and impartial their locality, but the PAC chased S.I. was transferred.” them to the interior. The PAC per- sonnel marched towards Buxi Bazar, 15.44 hrs. abusing the Muslims and saying [S h r i H a r i n a t h a M i s r a in the Chair] that they want to massacre at least 60 per cent Muslims in India/’ t "ft tT ^ ^ ^ «rr, ^ ^ % ’TR’ »ft ^ f ^ 3 ^ ^ wmm if ^yrf^mTTR' I t ^ ^ i ; iTw-fflrf'R^ ?rrf qrff, ^ % qr I I «ft ^ if 'PT!f?r ?TfC *11 IRiV, qihiq-, itZ ^ I f?T^, ^ % '4W “ ...T h e bomb fortunately did no^ iTFzm V( 2 T W ” % explode inside or very near to the temple, but on the footpath. The f ? R 1 Hindus did not take any serious notice as the temple was not hurt. “The mischief which set off the The PAC personnel on duty insti- incident—in which herds of cattle gated the Hindus and even abused and swine were let loose on an Id them for not taking any serious ac- prayer ground—was well planned.” tion against the Muslims who have dare to destroy their temple. 1 5 - 8 - 8 0 ^ (Musalman loog tumhare mandir ^ rrflTrtxzT^ «TT I ^ ^ men, bomb phek gae aur turn loog mehrofi k i tarah gharon rneri baethe ho, niklo, hamla karo, darte kyun 'STTTT I g?n: ho, hamloog tumhare sath hain). ?rh: #3T I I cT5 tt^ ?)r ^ On these instigations a was collected and attacked the houses ’jsn: ^ ^ ir ^ g?r?: 1 0 0 STR^fV ^ t I JIf ^ g | | - I f% 5mr Et t W W VT IT^ TfNFT ^ •5|sT, ^ !fT^ I 5fk ^r ^ iTRt«frTr?rT ^ ?ft ^nT?ff ^ ^i t (3%i|)d) % sqrft^ 3ft f v m R f ? t w I, ^ ^ TfT I : »Tt w r % ^ cTTO ^ w f Tff fq;;^: “There were many complaints of im j5 p r ^ «iT I 3T^ looting by PAC men in the first four days. ^ TO TfT «TT, ^ snW Rt % ftitT It is also understood that the »iTr ^3^ frmt ^ ir^ ’m?r local civil and police authorities 45|A|R^I ^ ?(Y?; q’ ?fl7i ipc^%^>T deliberately underplayed the number JTtTTof of casualties, not only in respect of information to the press or public, fifT tftolTo^fto % ?TT^ 'Ml'il+Tl ^ HsMlrl but also in their SITREPS or situa- % ftiTT grrm % ^ tion reports to central agencies and 11 H^gTTtRlr % ^ ^ ^ ^srmr |, the State and Central Government. This was one of the reasons that spc^ fen w r I, % ^rnr^ rumour-mongers had a field day in fw^;n?nI!T>T^3^ Moradabad.” % f?rt^ ^ I, ?nf% ?nfV ?ft>r ^3t r % | ^ t t ^3^ tr^ ^ feWTT 3IT ?T% I Zff 3rt f t I ^ » r f t I 5 ^ ^ f%' ?rr5r ^ t rr^ ?tVt f>W firf^T^ ^ JTTRRK ^ TO^PTPT ^ ^ SFTTT ^ I ? m - ^ ZTf ^3THm I fTT 'R 'ftolTo^fto ^ ^ ^ f C^ % !3lTtTT% ^ N3 ^TTT^T- ferr^ I ^ $fttwH ^ ^ fenfV 5fTFff 5fk ^ fe ff ^ d¥HM^ % '3nn% if, 'j^r iTpiRT, ^ gro cftr qr ^ smr •V CN qr f^rr ?ftT qr ^TiifiT ^3fT^ I qt. R . fft. ^ r^Fir^Rt «fV ? ?;qginfl ^ ^ 5^T *mj% ^ HT^ ^ % f?rtT JTfT^, 5nf Stwt I WT^^cT > I I W ’ fT ^ ^ |«n ?flT ^WT I ftr 335 Situation arising out of DBCERfi^R 3, 1980 recent communal riots 336 (Motn.) ^ t — fsnr Tw?r ?ift^ % ’ft^ fjpp^ «fk ^ TK sr^n: f w , ^ ^ ^ 5 f fK *f t WTK 5 T ^ I finST ^ srTCTfsRf ^ 25 ?nT5RT, 1980 ^ TT ^Tft % ^3^ srfa-^rrfWt % ?^rR ^Rmx ^ fern wr 5fk 8 ^ f^ ftr ^ trnj^ftvpT .fsT^T 1980 ^ ^ ?rnT 3ft I, ^ *ftf?mt t , ^ ^TTsrmTT ^ !fV, OT't +l'-'^4) ir "N^l % t^?To t STTT ^ f?ft^ ^ — ?ftr' ^ x f ^ >s n t ?rh- ^ 5iw r ?rw>i? # 17 ^ 7 TT3^ ^Y^PTT % 'fil'MT f+il cTFft^ ^ ^ ZTT fSft=^?nT ?TTWnr wN , ^ ^ ^^vPTT «4qI 'TT ^ ^ Sfft T^PT ?T?^lf qr t s > ^ ^ ^ | q , ^ n f t e ^ 3TT ^ 5 T ^ »?iTqiC ^ t | t I ^ ' ftnr^T 't t ^ |— ^ ^11 'iird'T TfT I spTT T5T % ?p?T ^m r-m flTT # ^ ?r^ T ^ fsfT f^TT 4f t ^ R mi*i "ft. q . ?ft. ^ '^jnrTT^r ^ ^f, f^M t ^T?7n = ^ irr ?t»r ??tt TiTT^TWr^v& ^T r+d^ f ?TT7 ??TTfT3rT? % fiT ? iPM il ^ 5TT?rr 1 1 T? ^ |tft ^srm fsf^Fr s q w f w sn%t, P TT^ d K ^ 'f t . IT. CTt. %5fW r?r ^?T*T ^ f w ftcTT I W T S ^r Jtt f t ^ ^ 3Tt t I ^ ^ ^ ^"Wr % qriT ^ wnrr 15 ^ | ^ I I ?T®^ *f^, ?r^»ra ^ I > ^f cTT. 8 ^ T t . tr. ^ ^ |Tpft f t I ^ 5m f^nrr «ft, tr^ . ^ . t^JT., ^ ?TW>I5 ^ 5TTKT^ ^ ’CT’T., 'ft. IT^. ^ ^ I it ^THRiTft ^ »ft. ^ ^ 1 I^?T. W ^ 15 f 3TR ^ t ^ 5 'T m ^ ’f t , I ?t Vt ^^nriTR fTWT %tR f^RHPt re ^ 11 I sftr ^5f?Rrr qjir ^tR 51^ 3!%^ H^«( <3?[% if ttft ^ t o % ? K 5J^ ^ ^ I w I I Jjrr WT ^ I ^ft'oscTRoqVo, ^ix<;irM'T>ai ^ Tfrsmr ^ ^or^ctTt^o ?ih: JTPff ^ ^3I¥T^ I I f^^RTTH ^r ^ ^ I I ?n^ Htc^HTc'fto ^ ^ t| | , ftra ^ThRTfiTV I, 'fit# gm ^ ^ ^ ^ot^ctTiRo ?T>?: ?riTff ?m ^ ^sTRrr I I ^fte?TRo q ^ ?PRt arRT ^ ^ — % y fa ^ n M t ?Ft «ft c* i u o r t t r t ^ % if f^RRt yliw »if «ft, "ciRt^ % ^r ^ ?fh: «tV ^ |, ^3^nFt ^ % ’srar^r ?r t ? w t f ^ ?n rff % ^cTT ^ «ft ,^ s^nrr'Tif, ^ i I '« iFdJ4t »lf «ft 1% “ ' w imO<^h t w ; (mrnrnr) : if ^ I I ViTWnT % iT ^ ?n ^ , f w T OTT ^ jT^rftr ^ ^mrsr *mr if 5^ communal riots ~(Moln.J ^ spT % sftr sni?T if f r o m 5f ^ % ^ >FTT 1 srfsnprWf ^ 51^, eft 5 ft^ q¥o«fVo ^ ^ fsp VTTR TW Jr ^ e r r ^ ®Ft, f^??!ft ^ lift ?ftT ^ W T R f ^f^TTR I efh: ir wrr 11 ft «ft, ?>ff % errftq; ^ i ^ o ^ o i^ o ;37T^ «TT f% ir STTW% it ^ t t «ft t I f^^cTFT % |TT !|t5!: HT f%eT^ ^ ^Rt% f W T ^ ^ f%%9T % ^ ^ |TT, rs^ eft ^ ^ f ^ ^ 't ?ftT H^HHRX ^ % flTTilNIc! if -^1% ^ t | ^ I 'mr I I ?tT^, ^ S%?r if ?T 'fttlTo^fto ^<. vft 517^ I ??k ^W TR «ft 3 n ^ Cs 2TRTT ^ «TT I 3fT^ I !iV^ 3fr srifT 3rm |, ^ 2, 3 ^ ^ l¥f^ ^ f^ f% ^ '^H+I<1 ^ ^ ^j i i < ;N i<5 if 3f^^dHI eft3ft ?t ^?t^ ^ ^\C ^f^MK %■ !TraT ^ I ?HR «TT, f^fW ^ f^ ’m, ?rq% %m ^ # r h ^Tft eft ^ 3 ^ 3r ^ 3ft f W ^ t , 5, 7 fSTR ^ ^mqjT ^ >1^ ^ 1 3 R eR5 ^ snm I I ^ firf^sT f%gm ^fc'ii ^ 3TT^, wftn' ^ wiPT I, q f ^ 3rr% I qtsTRt ^ ^ ^ ?m 3T^ ^ I ftr W Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) out of recent [>5T^3nr^fq; ^ ^ snir, %f%;T ^ Pffw-fw stw *rp# wr^ ^ ^ ^ 5fk f^r^nrt ^ ^ ?r ^^-?TT«r 5rr I I ?ptt fT ^41^ ^ 'JlIH t A ^ ? *Wl '♦ill "O W ^ ?TT3r JTt g5TR fiT ? I jfnrt % ^sTPn |, ^ q r ^ 5TR52TW ?Ift T f ^TRft I I »T5n^ I 5ftr 3ft ir ^iqr | , ^ ft ^ I ^ fTT^'t ^tt^fr: 11 ?fk ^ ^ qilTW ir 1 1 ^ I ?ftr ^-sft 5ft5T-5ftJT I, zTf ^ ftrPTFST ?rrf^ ?Tf?pn5rr^| I 78$fh: 79 ^ ift JTT^ I !Tk ^ wt t I IT ^ ft^T firfTRft % g?R ^ ^ % ?T?rT f t #% ? ^ ^ | i tfft ^ g irm ^ fqn: ^rrsiT spt% % f ^ iT?^^mt wriftsPT ^ grft fr'ft^f ^ TTTmrzm ^'tsrJT t s i ?r^ ^ ^ ^ % zTf ^ f w »m «iT, !m % gfrrw I 5ff qr f% 4)fy+rf f% f»T % ir^ ^4)I?R t I ^ ? q ^ T ^ rn r ^ | i ^TPKTft ^ q^Fmt I ^ ? T F ^ H ^ ^ I ?rk ^ ^ ^ W r I I ^ qfTVTFTT ^ ^ tn fn ^ ^ # 3ft ?r?q'- ?R:rff I I rr^ 5'r;r ^r fir^ ^ I I ^ ^ ^ iTf trsp ^ ^ ^ Tfr m ?HR ^ TT3T ^ jfTtT eft r+^+r TT^r I ftr TTJ ^ ?TT ?ft^ % ^qr TT^ ^ I ?fh: ^ 3ft ftrrr ? 5T»TfT 5T^ ^ 3rrt^ f^P TtvinfTjt ir I, I, ^ ^ ^TT T P T ^ JTT 5 T f f t ^ TT^T ft ?r>T fTTT^ wtn ?p|*t fsr jpinftr m ^ f m ?W f % ITTO WTTT I ^fspvT ^«)Wl 3TT TfT ^ I ^ 4lri||- ^'■PT I 3ft 8P?qsiT I ^ ^ =5rTT ^ I, ^ 5Ft 5?rWTf ^ ^ I ? grrsRTfW 3f»ff ?r i t T T c ^ s f t r I ^rifd^id ^ *TT? I TTC^tWT ^ ^ ^ I 3ft w '>iila*in ^ f^'-^^i’i ^ ^5T it flT ffiff it % ^ f%?ft ? iT T # ir f^ spT »Tm gpTT ft I Jf ^?TT f f^ K T ^ t, ^ TTcfhrm' ^ ^ i t 3 ffT % fH'dl^n ^ I ^ ^ «CM(^ ^ ^ftfWVT ^tf^TTT I ^rqr^ ^ ^f ^?t fir g^ff qft itpt% ^ ^TTsrn: qr |tm | i ? r ^ % f ^ WT% i f f?irt^?ft srfTif 349 Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12. 1902 (SAKA) out of recent 350 communal riots (Motn,) >ji III I % ^n% !Ty ?TT^TT % 3;qR ^jfRT ^t I ^ I t ^ ^ 9 TT ^ +1 i '»ll ^ jrf I, t ^3iT^ «rr, f?r 5 T ^ %=r»f 5T|?T f® ^ f ^ t ^STT^ % 3TT f I j|^r'i<4 ^ ^if+H eft JT^ ^ f% ^FTT- STT^cR a r o f «ft I 5T#iT I ?TPr ^51^^ W ^ ^ I -3H^ mI ^TPTT I Wldl-®Trt 7TP3T QTTPT f^'^'Hefl I, ^nTHPWX I, tT^ if fjm sn^r ^^HFRRfV JTf I ^ if TT^ f I JTfW ^ ?f^t>l^ y*tr « f t f f 5 '’5 « l l 'f l ^ I srW fiff ^ ?PTHT'en: ? ? ^ t I ? m ^ spt arr^ftrr T^ f I ^JrrfvRrfH^ ^ ?f^?ifd ?ftT ^tJt ^ ^ ^ft>ft ^ ?r>T ^ Jr i ^nTTTTRTT ^? -?^ t I ^ ^ ^ tra ^ r^'^WII'fV iftx ^^r^rrf^TW ^ Ji^Pi^a '5T«r eT^ H'P WIXT if »T^ f^'iiiM^, ^ ^ TTCftJreTT ^ fw^sw [«fi gpTiff^ VHt t ] t ^H«dl i % ^ SPFft m ^3^ ^ ^ ^T%IT I T3?m ? H 3 fTT ^ ^ ^ I, ^3t1T ^ vft ^ I ?fk ^3W ^ ^ 5R^ spt ^ ^ I ?T!rr ^3W t3rR fTO^ft crk ^ snsTRF^ % f?HT ai|w f t Hfi ?:?ff ^ »ft ^ I, ^3TtT WTf ^ I f% «ft OTT i^nftsTTf^fr^ SPT ^TTZTTVt Jjf J T f^ ^ ^ W snr % ^ rrm t |, ^ ^ ^ ^wmr w ^ ^ g^KTTt WTT ?r^ ^ t |»tt I !m % ^ T O ^sfk^T ^ if % ^JTKT irm SRT it iTPRtq- ^ ^ ^ ir t , fJTTft ^^31cT ir I I i f% H^ff^'tTTHi % gmRiTt ^ z ^ , grfir^ ?i\t ^ rrntKff %HT«r HT^T WT% ^r^TsffSR Tnr ^ . , . HTWT ^jfRT ?Ttr ?TT% ^ ^T 3ft I — ^TOT— «ft 5m w NR Tt»T : ^ ? T (w r fo ) 3ft, *[K HTO T t l ^ , — ’em ^ % 5lirn^ I I ^ ^ ^rinftr ferr 1 ’Em ^ ^ 5i?t ^ ^ ^ . . . (« a w R ) . . . ?rf^ im<,w jrf^Fnn ^ ?TT*r fen , ^ W fm fk ; ?r»ft ^ tT5?T ^ % ?mr firsr ^ 1 I — ?ft# 5 1 ^ |1T, %f:fr?r ^T^ % ^ 'Em % «rBKn i — S iT f^ ^ 'V I ?T? ?ft sft #T ir ^ ^'t wrr % artsr t | I . . . . ?rf%^iT % ^ fsT ^3T5m, ft:?ff % ^ ? ? m ^ fBI ?T^ ^ v> tr^o 1^0 1 ^ 0 »HTH : t ^ f # % ^ *rjnr *w, ^ ^t5f T^ j|, ^ T ^ sm spt ^ ^ fern 'TfT I ^ % I I ^ f^fllHli % ^TTT^ ^ ^ ^ ^ —5Fmr TT€f !?tT 5fN; ^ ^ liTTt^ ^ I. ^TT^TT, % ^ ^ «{t, ?rrT % ‘TT, #t TT^ ft^ ^TTO f !1Y^ ?TT ^ c ^>T% ?Ft shfvnn ^ I ^T—ft ^ ^ir ?iW ^HT— T t ^ , vpm tm ^ ^ »n»T^ wrm f, sft— tr? ?T^ tVT if ^ 7^ t I 6 JT? m irt^pTT ^ «rr, fJTfi% «nfeTt ^ ^'t%9FT, ^ * ?TT'i% ^ ^ 5® ^Ttar 5 m t ^ m 3ft ^ T iff «ft 9 T T ^ t . W ^ ^r ^ 'fi^ 5ft^ ?rraft (^o) .imliT^T I — ^ ^r '3nfd«ii< y k s in ^ srarwtT I JT5i ?TTTfif^T||f%^ smftvr I ^ ^FTFT # IT? ^ %, 355 Sii 3, 1980 recent communal riots 356 (Motn.) wrr . . . (simR) . . . fir% I f^?5wf % itV ^ fiT% I fin^vrft % ^ ^ m m . . .. (sJI^rSTR) ... if JFfrTT ^ ^ %!=^tJT H7VR, ^ TTxir «<+R', ^ 5»1T^ ?fr>T I I ^ 3 ^ I I IT T ^ £Ttm 5FTT ^ tfto iro ?fto «ft 51^ ^ I I I I ZTf ^ sfTT ?TT^ i p w n f f ^ fqrtat !TT% ?Tt»T Ht f i F i r ^ ^ ^ t| I I ... (szt^t^tr) . . 5T^ I I 1w %TT#Rr ?TTf^, M w f f5 P % ^ t I iTf ^5PTW TO ^ T ^ t ? ^Tfanf ^ t I irmm t I ^T«mr?T : ! T T ^ ?T^ft ^ f»TT^ HTf «ft 3jfrfcfM<» ^ ^ 5RTT ^ I I ^ ^ ^ t, ^ «ft 3TR ^T?T v t (if(0 ^ 0 0 'HTTiT t ^nmFT ^ I ?ft ^3^ ^ ?TT^ t ZT? ^ T^ «rT f% ^ I 1 t Jlft ?TTO ^ ^ 'f f% ^ ^ fw I arp ^ m f»nft «TRf% i n ^ % ? T ^ SFT fT3^ it ?T^ ^ ^ JTf 5T|t JPfT fsF ^*rsP T R f ^ f f i rq R v t f 'ffiM'Ji f^rqr I ^*-^ ?Tt % ^ ?nr^ qrsf ^ rTT^ »T ?TTf%7: m f ^ ^ '?)FT^ ^ ^ *T*T^T^TT^ % * iC yrrfjrw ^ ^BraRTT I ? 5T ^ ^ 5T ^ 5T ^ f%iTTI JT^ sr^TTT Pr; JT^ ST5TR STTiRTiin: % felT, T(^ % ^TtT ^ sI'^K ?TTTo u ^ o % Pt-ill, ZT^ ^ I # ITTTTT^O % iTT^ *r 5T ^ «nr?ftJT ^TJTrTT 'TTjf % I w , JT^ •T^ 'jji^r^r>rt^H 5 ^ 5Tt^ 3TH- ^ I iTf sranrr ^ snrr ^ | 1 ^ % I ^rrr ^ttt ?rri%^, «r r f % zTf ^ ^ i% STFT^’T ‘^*-5(<. «ft 5q'|fd<^y ^ ^ € t f 5rZT^ ^ 'TTPT^ ^ . . . (smPT) I , ^ rTft% *T^% ^ti'iHl'fl % q li 5T fnu, 5 ^ -qiT?!^ I ^TTKT^T? % » ^ ^3 ^ 'BJT^f^iTT 5b H ^ f e n Jr»-«n: ^ ^ ^ ’ p>t g r f% sr^TrT 57^ t I ^ f friT H 5TT ^ ®trr *nn w o ■ 1 ftp ^ 5fr ^ ^ ^ qr ?TTT ^ W=TW Pt^^TcTT I ? JTTT !TVt ^ I ^ I 1 ir^ Trff % qWf spT t ^r t t | Jr f f% ?T JR i ^^HHThI’ 'TT zTf f«t>r^'i !fk fTTW ^ ^ I, ^ I’T 3tt^ I, %fSRTO Sfk I I # ’^f?TT i f s|Tt =5TFT I I (sirsTmH) ^ ' ^ r f ^ I 3ft ^ ir I ^3^ m v T . ^ f p f t %^TT*rr ?ft ^3^ f ^ iftrT spt ^ ?TTO ?1tT ^ !T =?rf^ I 10-12 f^jmr ??r% | i ^ 1r ttpt ^ ^ f¥ w T feiTT eft TilC ferPT fft 'ftBi ^ I rf^sft ^ t ^ ftr fJT ^ ?T^ I ^ ? WT ^ =50^ I ^ I % +^l f% 'ft’o r^o ?fto fe ^TTRt WSmifr WT ^ t + « iH ^ uvHiiX'fT I I t ' f f o q;o ?fto ^ ^> ? ^ fir | 'T4 .-TSRT ^ I t ^ f% ^ +H'^|'K ^ ? ^ fiT =^7^ I ?TT^ % t ^ ^ f*T»r ?!RT^ ^ qr %? ^tNrr, ?rr5r ^ °p t n + N T ^ ^ sTTiTt >nff % ^?mff % f% % ^ ir ^ + w i H iTnf^T t S , ^ f o n f f , ^?r ^r ?ft^ % t +Hj-if^_^*T I, JT^TTfnm ^it ^ ^ ? f w r f % fe n n t Jf +^yHrH'?»T fJT^ m fe >T^ir? TT I ^ ft I, Trf^rf^ 'TTf^ % ^RTt^rr ?itf% if fe^^fwt ^ I ?RT ^ if ^ f f t I 5R^T ^ ^'fidl ^ rff ^ I q ^ ^ ?n% snT^ ^r ^ w ^ fH+H'-TT I t g?TT^ f> n f% *.*'t> «j M ^ ^ irrdY 4^1 fT qrcf ?T7^ f ^ ^ ^ 5fk |^,*r % ^ ^f ^ ferr fe irfwiw ^ JpPT^ra’ IT^ft^fW f 'd'I'tl Hi + IH t, WT ^1 fen %, ?TfT ^ I f?ft ’TOtT ^ ^ 'Tf^^?T?r^T||,gTr?rr^^pT i 3T?t Frfef*^^ ^ ^ p^WR'Cl' ?TT'Ti tT<7tTi5f»T i , ^ ' t ! f k 3ft «ft ^gr^TT ??T37 fftiR iJTrr: ?T7nT, fsi<>|.H ?> ^3^ ^ r^HHt ^ r f ^ I 3ft 1’^ I. I, ^m%aT f^in w r, I, VR-^R % 3i> f ^ »T^r, ir f t t m ^f s ff ^ I I fif ^ ^ =^rf|TT, =T^ ?r> fJT ^rm ;rff i ?nrr 3rr5TT 1 ^ t> ^ ^srmr 1 1 # ^str^ | fe t fr o 3 in R f4 ^ ^ ^nf?, ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 1 1 ^ I ^I 5r-< H -H ^ w ft ^ ,^TT^ f% m w r ^ ir |tr I, ?Tf Jf ^ ^ ^’T ?TW % ^ SHTHTSfl ^ | I fT 3TTIT, ^ ^ fg l^ ’T PtX ? T T fe T ^f ’5?TR ^ I I 3rnT, ^ ^ ^ ^ T f s f t ^ Vi g 1 ^ ^ ^ 3rn^, ^ ’Ttsft ^ I out 0/ I^ E M B E R 3, 1980 recent communal riots 360 . < (Motn.) I have to say that there is some- thing wrong at the very base of our # m 1%x ir TT 9FT society. There is something woefully lacking in the upbrining of our chil- ’r?7n f f% f^TSHT dren. It is very necessary to refer to sm w r* •The original speech was delivered in Tamil. Situation arising ACS^RAHAYANA l2, 1902 (SAKA) oiit ot recent ^62 communal riots (Motn,) politic of our country. What we do to the Marxist Communist Party presently is that we set up Peace having sickle as the symbol on the flag. Committees at the places of occur- It is really unfortunate that innocent rence of communal clashes. Such Peace people should become victims of poli- Committees should become permanent tical rivalry. instruments in all the susceptible areas. 17 'hrs. We should have a separate po- Sir, you will not come across in lice force at the State level and at the Tamil Nadu and other Southern States Central level not only to contain but the macabre communal incidents that also to eliminate communalism and have taken place in Moradabad. In casteism from this country. There Southern States, Hindus and Muslims should be round the clock patrol of live in amity and understanding, all susceptible areas. The Government which is absent in northern States. should adopt measures for reforming In Tamil Nadu and other southern the society and for ushering in an era States, political parties’ growth is not of social resurgence in India. As I sought through exploitation of com- said earlier, the Radio and the Tele- munal sentiments and religious fana- vision, and also the Press should ticism. This must be emulated in become the means for the spread of northern States. It is not that clashes these sentiments. occur between Hindus and Muslims alone. There are recurring clashes It is not that the Ministers and the in the name of caste in one religious Government alone should tackle this group. The scheduled caste people issue. The Leaders of all political are murdered by caste Hindus. Such parties should join hands in finding atrocities have become a common out a permanent solution for weeding thing at political level. I would out the poisonous growth of com- illustrate this by referring to the munalism and casteism from the gruesome incident that took place on garden of our plural society. 14th of last month in Melakurki in Tanjore, which is tl'e parliamentary Out leader Dr. Kalaignar Karuna- constituency of niy hon. friend, Shri nidhi and our General Secretary, Thazhai Karunanidhi. A Harijan by Perasiriyar Anbazhagan ta k e all op- name Govindan, his wife Nilambal portunities including their participa- aged 40 years and his son Sivaraman tion in marriages to apprise the gathering of the need for absorbing aged 7 years along with his daughter Thamilarasi aged 5 years were locked the noble reformist and rationalist in their house, over which kerosene ideals for the good of our society. The was poured and the fire was lit. The Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam extends only crime he committed was that he its wholehearted srupport to all the was a D.M.K. worker and accepted steps that the Government would take the leadership of Dr. Kalaignar to rid our society from the communal Karunanidhi. Without being able to and caste evils, which leave a legacy witness the suffering of his kith and of sufTering for posterity. With these kin, Govindan jumped over the roof words I conclude my speech. of the house so that be could seek outside support for saving his wife 1 and children. There he was confron- Sftqlo ( ^ ^ ) ted by 100 sickle-armed men. They , chased him out of the scene. His screaming wife and children were consumed by the leaping fire. Today ^ 3T W t I ^ Govidan is flghting for his life ^^e Jf gft ftr, Thiruthuraipoondi hospital. You will be surprised to know that the sickle- ^ ^ ^ ^ "3^ bearing crowd of 100 people belong ■^65 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 364 ' (Motn.) Tto !T^ qST «?T f ® ^ sAt ^ ?ft?m 3ftf% #5rT5r ^FTOi^T, , Tnfmh: ir i^T I ?n p n R R qr€f % ^ #, w ^ T?T ^ VRifh: ^ ^^TUTrT flT ^ ^ ^r ^ |tt ^ f% fe ft ^ feft ?n:f ir Htff q r 5Tm ^ J T R ^ mTff q w f^ % 5TW ift?r ^ 5mr ^3HT %, ^ sfKTW dif^ !rnff ^ s^I^>1«( fV'Mi ^ y ^ ^ JT^rR^rro f e n ?rtT wrtff ^ ^ «tt « rk st'fr f^Tfsft ^ iTR% ?rh: 5f2T^ % f%TT ^ m m rrf^^jfT f m t ?TTF t ^ ^ % wrfiTTT ■dH+l ".+11 r*l'^dl I ^WfWWTSPT ^ ?f^ft ^ Wf?: it fT jnif Iff ^ '^ ? n t spt !f^mr I f ^i¥r3^ it mr z j f r qr ^ w r r ft ^rt ^mr t^t |, Jvs» IT?T m +*)in ^ ^TRT ^ eft 0 ^TtT?T it lift qr Tnrr?r ft I «Tf I ^ JTf ^Jft ^ I, ^ rftr t ^n?iftft !iwr ^ It jpfjftT % it? ^ qr JTf % ?ft^r 5Teft it qi+i I II? ?ftiT ^ ^ vfk ^ ^ ^ »ft % ^ ?niT *nn, t *rt% qr <11% ?rk iqrf^Tn in ^ ^ p r ff ^ «TT ^ ^ ?m-'Trt f t Hunld ?T«i 51^ ^ ?nmiT I ^ ^ 5F?i ^n^'i^ <151 ’nr “^ ” ?rtr 5nmit ^ ^ ' R s s K ^tVt rftm ^ 5^ + l^<4'lp| T^^^qT'K>^ ^ q r f ^ ^ ^ 1 ?% ^ ??rra- ^ «I I qf?^ ^nar?: sniff ^ Jf ■fiHuN ?irT % ^ 51^ ^jTT ?mr % qrmfh: 1 ^ I I if ^ 257PT ^ f w 1977 ^ w ^ ftr^.9R *f Jifi "IT vft ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 3TT% ^nff I 1977 % =fTT^ ^ ^^ipr g I ^5^ ^f «it ^ % ^ ^ ^ ?I?I W n<^ ^ si^TT ^T^Tt %, f^lJTTii ^Tjni^ «F F ^ % fw wk fC'Si^ «ft ^ ar? % $6? Situation anting out of DECEMBER 3, 1800 recent eommundi riots §6S (.Motn.) [«ft tfto TPRmr] *n^ I 5Tfr MM *r^' «FT^ f 5T^re IT^ ^ ^ r M ^ I’fTJTT ^ I ?*T ^ w ?rk 3t^ ^ «ft, •Mi'll ?Ri ^TT 3pi sf^ ^ n w (m f) m qrfoff ^ 'nf'PWH % fg^rr?) =^r w I % *rh: ^ ^ »i?RirRf ^ fir^T 5F^, ^ % iFOT ^ mx 511f t 5T^T«r q r «ft firwr ^ w k ^mrr ^ f ? i f ^ 'TfT I ?rrT ^5i T ^ I— JKt ?V I fi i ft: I I ? m % 55TT ^>TT— iTf I, ^ % 3r t % Jr ^f i^nrr ^ f w 5n TfT I, w ^ ?r 5fTT W ? : ^'O mr vft ^WTcf I ^ «' t ^ WT% ?T (snrf) ^r 2:^ ^ i5ft I ?r p i t ^ T T c I Z ^ ^ t , f w JHTT t, ^ IH ^ 5ff ^ ^ ir tTpn («rr^) ^ t ^TTfTT $ I W k 1980 it ^r^i-F 5ft ^ w f ^ 'rm if ?mt f ^ wiHw ^ 5t| «ft ^rrvR % 3RK 5^ fT q?% «ft ^ sn^ if . . . . I*?, ^ ^ *}T fe «R w fran ir ^ % ftr«n?Fr ^ Ji^'f fi# m;rftn fWfir : stf gfir I ftR »ft ^ ^ if ^ jr t ?rr?r i 569 Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out ol| recent 376 communal riots (Motn.) iT>o Himqm : ^ 3RT% »mT f!3?Tt TT 5ft tRVR ^ ^ ^ ^ ■c|5TT ^rrfip^ I ^ m m dlsfld'^T ^ I f^r^RT ^3^ MR. SPUTY-SPEAKER: I wiU go through the proceedings. W ^ ^ 3Tfe f ••••Enpunged as ordered by the Chair. 371 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 teCent communal riots 372 (Motn.) Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ther^ is menclature associated with these riots ho point of order. You have only ex- brings some benefits to a large num. pressed your opinion. Shri Jethmalani ber of politicians and political parties may continue. and they are greatest beneficiaries of these riots. I do not wish to raise my finger of accusation but I wish every- SHRI RAM JETHMALANI: My body to search his own heart and find friends on the other side ought to out who during the last 30 years has know the adage, those who live in benefited the maximum due to the glass houses should not throw stones existence these communal distur- at others. There was a judicial enquiry bances. If they sincerely and honest- ordered sometime by the end of 1979 ly stopped taking such benefits, things by the then Lok Dal Government would have been brought to a happy which came into existence with the end. votes of these gentlemen. That enquiry was to probe into the Aligarh The next cause and a prolific cause riots. That enquiry was practi- for these things is the economic cally completed. All the Muslims misery of the poor people. The rich, - gave their evidence. (An hoiu the well-to-do, the prosperous do not Member: only 8) My friends don’t participate in a riot or go out in the do their home work; they don’t know. street and get killed. They just sit When it became apparent tl'at it was back at home. Some actually enjoy neither the Sangh nor the RSS it. Some finance it and some get the nor anybody else, that was involved benefit out of it. But it is the poor but it was these venerable gentlemen man who goes out, who loses his pro- sitting there, when that became ap- perty, who gets maimed, who gets parent, the judicial enquiry was wound very often killed in the process. He up and no explanation is forthcoming. bears the brunt of it. Why? But even these incomplete pro- > ceedings be placed on the Table of the House. Let the people of the country I am a Hindu, but I come from Diat know the facts. Let them draw their part of the country where the majori- own conclusions on the basis of the ty of the population is Sikhs. I am a evidence. The members of the Govern- Sikh as I understand the teachings of ment and their party colleagues may Guru Nanak. I can understand and do well not to talk about the sins of recite Japji Saheb. It says: others day in and day out. Sir, I said that we will talk about the disease fsrqt ?T and the prescription for it. Sir, if communal riots flourish in this »TT w fgrnr ^ i country it is only because the ruling party—which has been the ruling party in this country for three And it is in that spirit that I speak decades—has never found it necessary today. I am dubbed a communalist or expedient even to change the because I do not sell my principles terminology which is used in connec- for votes. And Sir, all that 1 tion with these riots. A Hindu who wish to say is that the poverty attacks a defenceless Muslim is not of the Hindus and the poverty a Hindu; a Muslim who attacks a de- of the Muslims—this is a com- fenceless Hindu is not a Muslim; mon disease—create riots because both of them are children of Satans. people want excitement in their dull Sir, if only two years ago we had and drab existence; people want to * decided that these riots should be easily come up by a little property called riots between Aildren of of some body in the neighourhood Satan, I say most emphatically, com- and they fall a prey to a few commu« munal riots would have stopped in nal elements who wish to tal^e advan. this country. The trouble is, the no- tage of a situation existing at a given ^j^Situaiion arising AGRAHAVANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) recent communal riots 37^ CMotn.) communal riots (Motn.) point of time and, therefore, a Gov- elements has been talked about. On ernment which miserably fails on the the 16th of August, after Moradabad, economic front is also the Govern- Mr. Sathe said publicly that he had ment which is a direct cause of riots in the country. We have to remove come to the conclusion that there was a foreign hand involved in the these glaring inequalities of wealth Moradabad riots. On 17tti of and when there is prosperity you will find that people will not fight and August, he concocted a false story on will not come to blows and will not behalf of the Moradabad police that try to cut off each other’s necks. the police had been fired at Sir, this is an accusation created by the Then, Sir, today we are all concern- Government of the day and when the ed about Moradabad. Sir, I am at one Government resorts to this kind of with Mr. Banatwalla and other dis- perjury against the poor Muslims of tinguished speakers who said that the Moradabad, they have no right to poor Muslims who went there to pray come forward and shed crocodile did not go there to create the inci- tears. I want to tell you that Mr. dents and get themselves killed. 52 Madhav Prasad Tripathi, a member children and women were just killed of the RSS, a Member of this House in the stampede and 100 persons were last time was deputed by our party killed as a result of Police bullets. to go to Moradabad and make a re- Mr. Banatwalla might claim today port on this and that gentleman which he does in his substitute resolu- came and reported that this was all tion that the PAC was infested with completely false. The police were communal elements. There, he seems never fired at by the Muslims of to be one with Mrs. Gandhi. But I Moradabad and today we are sup- suggest that when t^^e PAC acted in posed to be the communalists. because a brutal manner against the innocent I told you I am a Hindu and I am a Muslims in Moradabad, they were Sikh. But I don’t sell my Hinduism only displaying familiar symptoms of and Sikhism for the purpose of the same disease which is responsible capturing a few votes and that is for rape of innocent women at why I am a communalist and where- Police Stations, which is responsible as these gentleman who are mas- for the blinding of under-trial querading as secularists are really prisoners in Bihar, which was res- communalists through and through— ponsible for the drowning of a dacoit and they only have learnt how to ex- in Police custody in Delhi and which ploit communalism and how to get is responsible today for the assault the votes of the minorities. Minister on 600 innocent unarmed students after Minister of Congress-I, and living in hostels in Gauhati, which I politician belonging to Congress-I tried to draw the attention of this talked of that invisible foreign hand. House this morning. It is the same Well even Mrs. Gandhi talked about symptom of insensitiveness to human that. She talked about it at the dignity, human liberty and human Working Committee meeting which freedom and human life which has took place on the 28th of August. overtaken the Police and it has over- But on the 16th of October when she taken the Police for the simple went to Moradabad, she went on a reason that people in the Police force well-conducted tour of the grave- who are found guilty are ^ot brought yard which has been created in to book, but instead receive certificates Moradabad, she said “I do not think of commendation, if not promotions that foreign elements were behind the in the jobs which they previously disturbances. What is the truth^’? If held. the Prime Minister of this country does not know her mind, if these Sir, there are two causes which I distinguished Ministers who advise wish to put out of the way. The her do not know their mind, how the cause of foreign hand outside . hell are they going to find out what ^75 Siiuation arising out of DECEMBER 1980 recciif cornrtiu^dl riots 376 , (Motn.) [Shri Ram Jethmalani] the disease is and how the hell are they going to find out what prescrip- tion ought to be applied? There is no foreign hand. It is the Government : «TFT which is itching to create a hot border ^ i f t ^ I which is trying to create incidents and »Tm ^ ^ bad blood with Pakistan, a neighbour- ing country and it is the Govern- ment which wishes to justify its total incompetence and corruption by This is the seriousnes with which reference to the chaotic conditions they are discussing this issue. which do not exist. But they are interested in creating them. In any evc It, they are interested in creating propaganda that circumstances Uke tJiat exist. stmr rft ST ^ I ftrat Lastly, let me repeat, as I said % sTTcT m ftq-- before, we have nothing to fear from sTr^nfPT fjp t I , eft v r m ^ ^ truth. Truth must be told, but if •omebody gets up and names the I ir «rcn w r RSS or the BJP, as some Ministers WTTNmr'f ^ i with an utter lack of sense of res- ponsibility, with an utter lack of attachment to truth have gone about ^rar-^JTT ^ ^ ^ ^ PsTrpft brandishing—I do not wish to name «(I<1 % it'-'?*. them, but I only wish to recall that even a paper like The Times of %TT I India, by no means, favourably in- ^ ^ tTT^ %, ?ft ^ ^ clined to my party, at one time almost ^ I, irrm sold to the ruling party, wrote that HO one from the RSS or Jan Sangh *nrf % Mil is'fl' man was involved in the Moradabad ^ grTTT^ TTT^- f? | I riots and this has been affirmed by fsRT WT? ^ ?JTTjr t f:p # ITR o the Imam in Moradabad who said that none of them was involved.. . . try. o IT^T . o ^ o 3f 0 : t?r»T | i «ll 4ir<-i{tHH sn, ?HR qf^sTTift % ^ ^ ^ ^Ftfww ^ % f ^ ? n ? 5 T?R«TT, rft J jr r a f^ % ^ ^ 5ft irf ?rn^^ ?rk ^ ^Trft t^ — ^ ^^T^TFffO rft?r ^ sfT, 5Rftf% ?ftT ^ 4><.^ ^ +(0^1 VI ^ 'jtlrfl 3f^T^ '^Rl^ ^ +IH 11 f3RT% I— % iJ»TfT*TRf TT 3qrK?ft t iT P ^t^ ^ T| I ^?Tf AtfjpT^ cjHdt ^ ^ f w , ?rnn wsrt^Fr ^ 'Jd'ii ^ 3znrr •tv^tt^ ng'^n 1 ^ 1 % f? n n I ?niT ^ ^ l?rr «ft, ?ft ?mTT srKtfV ^ fewnfi +ii('=(i^ 'T><,i^ 'flN'PI I ^f+ 'i viR ThrpTT FT ^TFwh: =frt ?rk titrt jr?rf^fT f^iTT srwrn ^ffrir JT»FT*TTHf 5TTJT? msRtiT ’T^ »rat 3ft ^ ^ 5?IT^ I, 5 f^ =PT 3ft STRlft % ? ft*I 41'Ti^r f% 3T^ ?ft^ ^ ’?TT^>TT, '4^ ? r-l^ ^ f f s J T ^ ?tY^ ^'T^T ?5 o^rftrT^ff »(rt ^^T!r- f^ ^ 5ftsT » T ft% > Tf% ^ WTcT t t 5ft^ ^ cTTf ^-fjrJRRt ^ Jr IT^ ^ |?TT I rr^ TTff^ ^ f I ? n n : f I ^ t ? » ^ 5 f t Sift * r f I ??r ^ 'J|M+I<1 !T^ eft ??!% ?n^5 sF^’IT 3 ft ir ;t t w t >r I , f% t sTR^TTft I ?nrdfT % ?ft»ff ’ t Ti ^ % ^ rq -iT R !?ft %, ^nTRTT ^ WT *T^ vft^ W5ft^ sift ^ ^ I ^ 1JW msFT 5?rnrr 1 1 'trt 379 Stludtton amttifii out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 380 (Motn.) 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'5iTt? I ^ ^rm ftr gifr |, faRTT srf ?T^ it # ?r ^o ^ I ?roT'a^ JTf ^rfdr g t ? r ^ f 3T % % IT ?t3 ; ^ % ’Tf)' t f«F w «TT I ?TJ^'V m M t q r '#ft ^sJT T?: p r t, ■' p r | 1 WTT ^f^cr ^riq ^figrr, ?HR ? iT ^ <17 <\ ^c'^T |?rr ft ^ TT JJHT ^ ^ 5)'T ^ ?TTf « t ^ I ^ p iT ? r k «Tt ^r ?rKJft 4 t |?tt | 1 ^ ^ 3ft ^ ^ ^TWT ^ Iff srrar |, 5T|t I I iTft JTl-RMf< 1,?r ^ ^1 ^ f?9WRT 5T ^ f w I f-=i^JTf ?Tt5T T ^ ?r%?r ^ w ^rr I, % 3rR-TTT?r ?TtT ?^ a - # «1T I ^r f® ’TO^RT? % ^TRhRf fTOT ^'t ^ ? n t fJT ? m fra ir ?T|t ^ ’ I f I fir w f^'f^?T7t ^ ?r*Ta?TT ^ % qro $r »rt «fr, ^3^ ’^ fiT , ^3i t ^ ^r??TT =^ffiT JTf ^ 'Y f i r ?5 7 % ^rra g q r , t ^|?r ^ ^ ’ T3f K g I ^ ^Tf ^TT3R ^ ’ q-stlT f>PT fJT ^ ^ ^rrar | f^FfJT ? m T af7T4 ? Tft 5T ^ I rft TTM 5 R t ^ 9 W % m n fsTTft^ q-?KraF. it JTf ^ ct> ?afk I, ?rf%fr ftjDT I, ^ ^ f t f w ^^rrcTT I I ^ ^ ^ fH‘t> [=5fV « T T fr 'P g - f ] at the very outset, let me say that when a number of communal ten- sions and also variou^ types of ten- ?Tf^ ^ sions among the weaker sections exist in the society and as a result of that *R r ^f 200 ^ m r there have been disturbances, there have been police repressions, i think* siTrr ^ I I ?HR g f ^ ^r We should be able to lift up the en- tire issue above party politics. I ^ !^TT^ t 5Tt ^ 9Ft W ?: fT think, the entire House will consider spTJrT =^Tf^ I 5f ^ ^ p m this issues too be above partisan politics. rIT? % ^ ^ HTSTRW HMir<+ ir %^-?rre ftiwtftst (grsir ^ ^(rmr) ^ ^ Jr ^ ^ siH ^ t ^nracTT f f% I do not want to rouse the passions in this House because I am firmly of ^ ?R % ^ the opinion that if We arouse pas- ^ I sion on a commiinal issue it would find its own repercussions outside the House and as a result of this, 18 hi^ instead of communai tensions outside MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Four the House getting relieved, I am hours were allotted for this discus- afraid, they are likely to be accen- aipn. I^ow, it is 6 o’clock. So four tuated. Therefore, I will not indulge Hours are over. Now, what is the in that exercise. pleasure of the House? How much time shall we extend? SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA. (Basir- After listening to what the hon. hat): 2 hours. Member, Shri Khan, has said and the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: All details that he has given regarding right. Is it the pleasure of the House the disturbances in Moradabad, I lo extend the time on this discussion have not the least doubt that as far by two hours? as happenings at Moradabad are concerned, it is the police repression SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes. that is mainly responsible. But, Sir, while saying this I must also say that SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I would whenever in any disturbance the like to have a clarification from my Muslims are killed, it need not be the young friend. Would he kindly tell concern of the Muslims alone; it is us: what made Mrs. Gandhi go to the concern of all the other reli- Tinoba Bhave for mounting an agi- gious groups also. If the Hindus tation to ban cow slaughter? Was it are killed, it need not be the not an act of communalism? Was it concern of the Hindus alone but mot done to foment communal dis- it should be the concern of all the harmony ? (Interruptions) communities. I am reminded of what late Maulana Abul Kalam Azad had MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. said about communal disturbances. Basu, you are a very senior Member He said that the tragedy of the com- of Parliament. But you are raising munal disturbances is that when the So many issues which are not rele- Muslims are killed, the Muslims are vant. I am sorry to say that. disturbed and when the Hindus are PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE killed, the Hindus are perturbed (Rajapur): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, But very few are disturbed because Tomm5nS^?8!^Wo!rrr human beings are l<^ed. Let us try involvement, of foreign forces, foreign to create a climate by which we will agencies, as far as this particular dis- be diirturbed becaujse the human turbance is concerned. Sir I am shock- beings are killed. Because the human ed and surprised to find that a digni- rights are killed, the rights of the tary like the Prime Minister of the minorities are not protected, whatever country makes one sort of statement is guaranteed by the Constitution is at one stage and exactly the contrary not available to them, as a result of statement at a later stage. That itseli that, if the country feels disturbed, reveals that tliis is a matter that re- out of that something more construc- quires complete investigation. tive may emerge. A man of the level of District Judge will not be able to judge the entire problem in an impartial manner. I As far as the present position of fully agree with the statement and the communal disturbances and the suggestion made by the hon. Member, disturbances dUe to police repression Shri Khan, and a number of hon, are concerned, I think we must take Memibers in this House that the a long-term view and work out cer- Speaker can select a small Committee tain constructive solutions. We of Members of Parliament, and that must not try to confuse the symptoms Parliamentary Delegation can visil* with the disease. What has happened Moradabad and other places where at Moradabad is only the symptom of disturbances have taken place,, they a social malaise and we should be can find what exactly are the facts able to take cognisance that. and they can be reported back to Par- liament. That is the best modus operandi by which the truth can be found out. If some people are fright- ened by the truth, one cannot help it, It is a fact, you may recall, that on but I hope and trust that men on the last Independence Day, when the either side of the House, hon. Mem- Prime Minister was unfurling the bers on both sides of the House,, wno national flag, she declared that she has talk about the supremacy of Parlia- a sense of agony in her mind because ment, will be prepared to accept thia only two days back certain distijr- constructive suggestion that we should bances have taken place at Mox'a4a- have a Parliamentary Committee to go bad. After that, a statement has into the entire issue and try to see come from no less a person than the that the entire responsibility for the Prime Minister of the country—I do disturbances is put on definite agen- not know what was the basis, but it cies which arc resi>onsible for the dis- was clarified, it was publicly stated turbances. and it has appeared in the press—^ that there is involvement of foreign This problem is a comprehensive forces in these disturbances at problem, which has various dimen- Moradabad in ^rder to damage ^he sions. It involves the physical security stability of the country, in order to of the minorities, it involves the free- destroy the stability of the Govern- dom of all the religious groups. Inci- ment and damage the secular dentally,, I may mention that n-y image of the country in the Muslim Party fully backs up the Bill that has nations. This is what was stated by been introduced by my colleague, Shri no less a person than the Prime Mini- Jethmalani. He may belong to an)- ster of the country. And yet, when ther party, we may have differences the same Prime Minister visited On several issues, but I fully back uP Moradabad after some time, she had that particular Bill which guarantees the temerity to announce, to make a full freedom to every member of any statement that there is no involve- community to profess and practise any ment, that there is no evidence of ar.y religion and even to bave conversion (Motn.) [Prof. Madhu Dandavate] authorities. They should be held res- ponsible,. and for that, concrete action from one religion to another. We and steps will have to be taken by the must fully stand by it. Government. That will act as a de- terrent. There are economic opportunity problems. That also is a root cause, The question of special courts is if you look at the problem in Morada. very sigtiificant. People may have bad. What Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu said some allergy to special courts, but I is completely correct. There are a would demand in this House that number of problems that are involved special courts should be set up for in this. There is a big clash. You summary trial of the offences connect- will find that when the vested interests ed with communal and caste riots and find that their interests have been those in which the weaker sections disturbed, they also play a very vital and the minorities are attacked. That role in these disturbances. There is is a concrete suggestion that the the question of cultural identity, and Janata. Party has consistently made. that problem also has to be solved. The identity of every religious com- Collective fine is not something that munity and linguistic group has to bo should be alv/aya abhorred. I know accepted within the total, collective that this weapon was misused by the identity of the country. We stand for British during the freedom struggle, a composite culture,, for a culture of but whenever there are communal a nation which is multi-religious, riots, whenever there is commu.iaJ multi-linguistic, and that culture of tension and there is an organised India, in the interests of secularism. attack On any particular community^ has to be preserved. it should be imposed on restricted localities, i think the Home Minister should exlpore the possibility of im- There are « number of social prob- posing collective, punitive tax so ihat lems, and th^ political approach to it will also act as a deterrent. them has also to be taken note of. There has been communalism embed- There are various localities in which ded in our life for centuries together, certain communities have been stay- and that finds its oWn reflection in ing. Untouchables stay in a number various incidents. It found expression of villages and cities in some concen- in this particular case. i am not claim, trated areas. Muslims and Christians i^g that a definite percentage for also similarly stay in other areas. We every religious group Or caste should must change the entire concept of be reserved in the army and the police housing, and I would urge the Gov- force,, but I must say that the members ernment to see that a new dimension of all communities in this country of housing is introduced. There should must feel that »s far as the police not be exclusive housing for any par- force is concerned, it will not be filled ticular community in a given area with commui'al or caste prejudice.s. There must be free niixing of differ- Therefore, every cross section of the ent communities,, religious and langu- people must fmd its reflection in the age groups,, sj that there is free inter- forces that are expected to protect the change of ideas, customs and social life, property and liberty of the citi- life. That has to be done. zens. One of the methods to be fol- lowed to create confidence in the As one who has been connectcd with minds of the minorities is that the the profession of teaching for a long various communities and groups must time, I must record that the textbooks find adequate reflection in the police that have been evolved in this coun- force of the country. try from the time of the Britishers have a certain orientation. Very Whenever a communal riot takes often, the textbooks prescribed for the place, it is very necessary to fix the schools and colleges create a certain responsibility definitely on the district animum and bias against various conu 393 (Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out ofi recent 394 communal riots (Motn.) munities. I think we will have to re- Shri Murshid Ahmed Khan of the rul- orient the entire university syllabus ing party. That job has been done by and textbooks and see ^hat the new him better ttian anybody else. I do generation in this country is able to not think anybody will have the cour. march in a different direction. age to contradict his facts. There is some feeling in this House—I judged As far as economic opportunities are from the speeches of some Members— concerned, unless we are able to that we should not be much bothered assure the minorities, whether linguis. aibout what the world thinks of us or tic or religioi’s, that all the rights what other countries think of us. I guaranteed lo them under the consti- beg tio differ fron\ it for the simple tution will be preserved^ they will not reason that week from now i.e. on have a sense of security. 10th of December, we will be observ- ing throughout the world what is called Some people may have an obsession Universal Human Rights Day. I am against the Janata Government. But sure in Delhi also many meetings and I must say that one of the good things functions will be held where all sorts that has been done by the Janata of platitudinous remarks will be made Government is that for the last s'J by various Ministers and other people. many years there was no Minority Next month we are approaching th£ Commission. That Commission was anniversary of the Martyrdom of appointed. I would like this present Mahatma Gandhi who gave his life for Government to go a step ahead and this very cause of Hindu-Muslim give it a statutory status to guarantee unity and v/lio became a martyr be« rights and privileges to the minorities cause he stood firm for communal in the country. unity and that was not to the liking of the fanatics who decided to do away There are very sad and cruel memo- with him. That d a y is approachLig. ' lies of the pre-partition and post- This year,. I believe, the world is partition days. Of course, there are celebrating 1400 years completion of also memories—shining memories of Islam—1400 Hijri. Well, it is a world Noakhali march of Mahatma Gandhi. religion, one of the niaj'or world reli- But as far as the old generation i- gions. Although I do not belong concerned,, there are still the hang- that religion; for that matter I am not overs of the memories of the pre- much a devotee of any religion as partition and post-partition riots in such, but I am proud of the fact that this country. Therefore, the real hope in a country which we call secular of secularism in the country will be and which we claim to be secular the new generation, the new young there is a iarger number of peopi« generation wluch does not have the observing the faith of Islam than . hangover of the past memories. I hope is in any other Islamic country. we should be able to cencentrate on (Interruptions) . Is it not true. this new generation which will be the Madam? pioneering force in bringing up real seculirism in India, which alone will THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI. be able to prevent communal riots in MATI INDIRA GANDHI): Two hav® the country. That is the constructive more. approach that I would like to place AN HON. MEMBER: Indonesia and before the Hou^e. Bangladesh. Thank you. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Indo- nesia, I hope y ou , have just been SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basir. entertaining their President. An5rway. At thisB stage of the debate,. I | do not propose to add anything to the ; But the question that has arisen in narration of events that have taken i the minds of the people, at least in place in Moradabad or elsewhere. Tliat my mind very much is whether the yoh has been well done, I thinik, by tradition and history of Indiasi tole.. 395 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 39B (Motn,) [S’hri Indrajit Gupta] centrate on is taking severe action ranee is beginning to come to an end against those people who are respon- or not? Communal disturlvances have sible. I agree with him. The point taken place not only in Moradaba4 is, what happens when no action is and Uttar Pradesh,, they have bo*^n taken? How do you then expect con- taking place in many places. Last fidence to be restored? Whose job is year, of course, this Government was it to take action if it is not the Government? not there then; therefore, they w^ll say ‘it was not our fault’,. I am not I have got with me a lengthy inter- bothered which party was in power view given by the ,Home Minister, Or is in power now. Last year there Giani Zail Singh . . . were terrible riots in Jamshedpur— three times one after the other. Ali- SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN garh, o f course, has become a chronic (Badagara): All 'his interviews are point. There were riots in Gujarat and lengthy. so many places. But why is the atten- tion of the people is being focussed sc SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I do not much to-day on Moradabad? It is be- know. This is an interview given to cause there is* something new in il. the magazine Sunday, it has not been Because there is something new in t. contradicted as far as I know. It is And that new thing has produced the a lengthy interview running into crisis of confidence. several pages. I would like ta quote just two or three sentences. I am What has been emphasized here, not going into the question which was quite correctly, is the role of the asked and then the reply and all that police. Then, there is again a ten. because 1‘nere is no time. He says: dency to take the debate in a direc- tion as thoush only the police is res- “Whatever complaints have come ponsible, the police is the only culprit. to us have been about the PAC. That is also not correct. But I will not agree that the whole of PAC is guilty. There are some I remember, in Jamshedpur,, last individuals in the PAC who have year, many people told us after t.\e not behaved properly and we will riots very similar things had been weed tfnem out, we will punish done, though not on this scale. The them.*' PAC* has surpassed all. But there is some sort of a mini-PAC or another When the Home Minister replies, let police force which is called BMP him tell us how many he has weeded Bihar Military Police. Many people out and how many he has punished. had told us that there also how BMP had behaved, how it was they who In another place in ttie same inter- first came and looted the houses, view, he says: terrorised the people and picked up the people. It was only afterwards can assure you that if we get that the so-called communal comple- any information that anyone in the xion was gi'^en to th e whole thing. administration has arrested people The PAC is in a class by itself. There- only on the basis of community... fore, there is the crisis of confidence —you heard what Mr. Khan saidr- today. “... and nat because they were Is this the new pattern for the indulging in mischief, and members future? My young friend from Kan- Of bot*h the communities can do pur was at P^ins to emphasize that that, then we will take action, we we should not play up too much th^ will punish such officials. fact that the police i« taking a parti- ctdar attitude towards a minority Q: Have you had occasion to community^ but what we should con- punish any officials? 397 S?tiS«ottOTi dTtsing AGRAttAYA^NA 12. 1902 CiAKA^ out of recent 358 communal riots (Motn.) . A; So far the punishment is only fore, I think, the values of life and SiuSi^ensioh dr transfer. But I can so on, which have been expounded ^ assure you that we will make the tSirough the ages by all great Indians, punlshineht much harsher.” saints, philosophers, and so on, art Please tell us what harash punishment really being reduced to somewhat of has been meted out, not to the whole a mockery now. We should own it PAC but to those people within the up. It is no use being hypocrites and PAC w*ho are responsible for all that indulging in hypocrisy. happened. Again, in another place, he says: About Moradabad, I want to say “I have a list of people whidi I two things which have not been men- do not want to disclose now in our tioned by anybody here. One is the Government wh^ instead of trying significance, t&ie background, of the to douse the fire tried to fan the fact that those forces which are flame and we will punish them.” avowedly communal forces in this country, who make no secrecy about Who are fhese people and have they their communalism, were defeated, been punished? very soundly defeated, in the Assem- bly and the Lok Sabha elections from The trouble is that we are all very Moradabad, before these riots, dis- good at giving assurances and making turbances, took place. That means, ipeeches. But the crisis of confidence tSie common citizens of Moradabad— in the minds of people has come the Muslims and the Hindus alike— because, on the one hand, the police had rejected these people at the polls. is behaving in a savage and barbarous I do not want to mention names here. manner and, on the other hand, you I do feel that there was a refusal by are giving assurances galore and do- these communal forces, who are very ing nothing to punish anybody. powerful in Uttar Pradesh, there was Where do we go from here? So, I a refusal on tSieir part, to reconcile do feel that our country runs the risk themselves to this defeat, and there of being ctxndemned in t^e eyes of the has been a conspiracy tQ stage a come- world. It is a very unhappy thing back through the method of organiz- and I am very very unhappy about ing this type of disturbances and riots. at. I hope Members on the other side will not get agitated; it ^happens in We will again celebrate Gandhiji’s other parties also. T^e Members of death anniversary, we will celebrate political parties get divided com- the Universal Human Rights Day, we munally at such times. It is a fact. will celebrate so many things. Next Anybody who comes from Moradabad week, I think, the Anti-Apartheid Bill will tell you how the Congress MLA is coming by whiclh our Government of Moradabad, one Mr. Hafiz Mohd. has now, after a lapse of 8 years, Siddique, who, I think, from what ^ decided to ratify the United Nations reports we have got, was a hundred " Conversion on Anti-Apartheid, that is, per cent secular man—I think, the suppression or discrimination by one Home Minister knows him w e l l — and racial community against another. who did his best, at the risk of his «wn Very good. We will pass it here by life and safety, to bring about some thumping the tables and all that, kind of defusing of the situation, was everybody in the House will unani- slandered, how he was threatened, by mously support it. But uncomfortable his own party people and by the questions are being asked by people. police. He is a man in agony today, And why ^ould we say that we do absolutely and thoroughly demoralis- not care what people in other coun- ed by the experience he went through. tries say? We do care. We have an I think, the Home Minister will certify iinag^ in the world, and we do to his g^tilar bona fide. ^ant that image to be spoiled. There- 399 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 400 {Motn.) [S‘nri Indrajit Gupta] I can tell you at least from the ex- Somebody said, ‘Why do you talk perience of Jamshedpur last year, that about foreign hand?” But I remember there was some very suspicious type at that time— 1 am not talking about of collaboration between both of them They publi&’n so much material, so any other conspiracies whic‘h may be afoot from abroad—our External many handbills and booklets and everything—Jboth of them, but never Affairs Minister had to send for the you will find them attaicking eacIK Ambassador of Pakistan and tick him other. Never. It would have been off because it was quite clear that very natural for RSS attacking Mr. Zia-ul-Haq was trying to exploit Jamait-e-Islami and vice versa, but what was happening in Moradabad th e y never attack each other and t*n» for some other purposes and a big aim of both is to instigate trouble campaign was on in Pakistan about among their respective communities it, that there is a genocide going on and bring about disturbances. of Muslims in India, he ‘nad to be called by our foreign office and told, ‘we do not like this kind of thing’. You may say, ‘We do not knovv So, do not say that there is n© foreign whether there is any foreign hand hand and we do not care what other behind it.’ But I should say—I hav# people say, and so on. We da care. 1^0 proof—that such a situation i* It is quite obvious. We do care. absolutely ripe for intervention by those external forces which want to subvert our country. Whether they Other friends have mentioned the are or not—it is your job to find out economic aspects. They are very im- not mine. You have been paid fot portant. I ‘nave no time to go into it. You have a huge apparatus. You these. There are very serious econo- have so m a n y lands of intelligence mic aspects behind what happened. services and all that and it is your Because it is quite true that, in recent job to find out and not go on telling years, in a few among the Muslim one day that t‘nere are external forces ccanmunity in Moradabad, there has behind it and the next day saying, been some amount of affluence due ‘We have no proof about external to business and trade, particularly in forces.* brassware, with the Arab countries, with tfhe so-called petro-dollar coun- These things will not be done tries,—that money has been coming, any Magistrate or a n y Judge. This and some of them, some sections probe is necessary in our own inter- among them, have gained from that. ests into the possible infiltratiom, There is nothing wrong in that, 1 massive iniiltiiation which is taking suppose. But then this becomes a place into the Police, into the educa- kind of competition and rivalry among tional institutions—just now Prof. Muslim businessmen and Hindu Dandavate mentioned about undesir- businessmen, and some people do not able textbooks tau^t to our children like tSiis kind of a thing that the at their most impreBsionable agieh-r liuslims, who have been more or less into our intelligence agencies whick small traders, small .businessmen, poor are never able to inform the govern- people o^ly, some of them, should ment beforehand. It is always sub- begin to get economically a little bit sequently found out that the intelli- affluent. These things have all been gence agency has failed. They wer^ there in the background. I do not never aible to find out that such ^ know whether any inquiry will ever situation was developing and that suck get to these things. Of course, forces tension was developing and that y^'^ like the RSS and the Jamait-e-Islami should take precautionary measure®. —^not now, for a long time now—are How is it? active, are fanning revival of com- mtinalism, of religious revivalism, And then take the mass media— thm among both the communities. And AU India Radio. I wiU accuse—I have 401 Situation SLrising AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out o£ recent 402 communal riots (Motn.) proof with me—that during these The Muslim population of Uttar Moradabad disturbances, tnis All India Prades‘n is round about 30 per cent. Radio went on broadcasting absolutely In the PAG the number of Muslims false and baseless news. One |was is 0.01 per cent and by changing this that ‘Curfew was declared in Amroha 0.01 per cent into 2 or 3 per cent, and Chandausi/ No curfew was de- you are not going to make any differ- clared in Amroha and Chandausi. But ence as far as the security of the the All India Radio of Mr. Sathe went Muslims is concerned. on saying it. Another thing they went m saying was that the Armed forces This PAC is an organised communal or t*ne military forces have been force, dressed in uniform. That is the rushed to Rampur. This is also only difference. It is dressed in uni- absolutely bogus. Such a thing never form, and most of the officers come took place. But the All India Radio from the hig!ner castes and are thoro- which is a government mass media ughly communal. It has been proved went On repeating these things with- by what has happened. But if you out verifying whether t‘here is some- are afraid of dealing with them b o d y deliberately doing it in order to stearnly, please say so. Pandit create tension. I do. not know. Kamlapati Tripathiji had a bad ex- perience with tnem once, when they Mr. K. S. Rustomji, a former Police rose in revolt. I do not know if you Officer and a Member of the Police are afraid of there being another re- Commis;:.ion has written a book— volt, if you try to discipline the Po- perhaps some of you might have read lice. it—called ‘Why Jamshedpur?’ in which he says: I read in the papers just now—I do not know whether it is a correct “T'ne most to blame are our Police report—^that the fact that action has Officers and administrators •.. been taken against certain police He is nat referring to PAC. His book officers for blinding the undertrials in is called ‘Why Jamshedpur?’ He says: Bi'nar has led to some big demonstra- tions of 1000 Policemen protesting “The most to blame are our Police against disciplinary action against Officers and administrators, small their officers. I do not know whether men in high places.” that report is correct. Please find out. But this is the kind of situation This is what Mr. Rustomji has said. you have brought about in the Police* and you will never be able to dis- Other solutions have also been sug- cipline t*hem or tackle them. You will gested. I thing it is long ago, in 1968, always be afraid of doing anything. in the Srinagar meeting of the It is a Frankenstein monster ttiat has National Integration Council, it "had been created. Now you cannot tam^ been very unanimously decided that it, you cannot control it. So, pleas* the SP and the District Magistrate think deeply over what you are going should be made personally responsi- to do. In any case, communal-mind- ble. What is being done about it? ed officers who have been found in- 12 years have passed. Please tell us. volved in all these things should be As far as the PAC is concerned, the ruthlessly purged and you should not first thing I would suggest is that be afraid to do that. whenever any riot or disturbances of a communal nature are apprehend- Then, Sir, about the press—I do not ed or anticipated or take place, the know Vnether you can do anything first thing to do is that the !PAC should about it—some memibers had referred removed from there. The PAC to it. It is not a question of jusl should -be physically removed frofh circulating the story that bombs ha4 there, instead of continually sending been found in a mosQue in Lucknow Mie PAC there. and all that. But, a front-page news 403 Sitwdtion aHsing out of DECEI&ER 3, i980 recent cotnmunoi riots 404 (Motn.) [Shii Indrajit Gupta] Government ig responsible for the appeared in the papers, in aU dis- maintenance of law and order after tinguished, national, papers of this all. Whatever other people might country. That is not the point. The do, there are of course communal point is When i^e next day the U.P. forces in the country who will try to Government officials contradiction repeatedly bring about disturbances. came, issued by the Home Minister Never in the 1400 years’ history of of U.'P., saying that no bombs had Islam—at least let me confess I nev-r been recovered and they had nothing heard or read—we have ever heard to do with any mosque, nowhere in Or read of any incident in the history the underground, and when the Home of Islam where the people who had Secretary denied l*hat the manufac- assembled for their prayers, the turers had supplied these crackers to Namazis had been shot down and Moradabad and Aligarh and when this massacred in this way. contradiction by the Home Secretary appeared the very next day, it was That, you must understand has published by one paper only, none of shaken the confidence of the people the other distinguished papers who throughout the country not only in want to pride t^iemselves about their U.P. The people in idgah maidan objective journalism and reportage wearing clean clothes to offer their bothered to print one single line of prayers along with their children had the U.P. Governments contradiction. been shot down. This has never What kind of press is this? What will happened before. Then it was tur- you do about it? Will you take any ned into the communal riots. But, action against this kind of thing? It what about the beginning? (Inter- is a direct instigation to riots and ruptions) So, all I want to say is communal troubles. that many useful suggestions have been made. But, they are not new. Then, Sir, the Organiser—we all They have been Said by the National know whose paper it is—dated 12-12- Integration Council for a long time. 80 had put forth some demands. I Bapuji was right here when he said quote: "Please dig out the old files and you “Close down Islamic Universi- will find everything there’. But. when ties.” actually it comes down to brasstacks, I may say that around Moradabad, Hindus must be prepared to stand the so-called Muslim universities are against Hindu communalism and in two dingy small buildings which Muslims must be prepared to stand are proposing to teach some Arabic. up against the Muslim communalism. The Organiser says: Without this, there cannot be any way forward. This is what Gandhi- “Close down Islamic Universi- ji gave his life for, whose name you ties. Remove Glass Factories. are taking night and day and every Report P.A.C.*» 24 hours. So, please let us not be This is what the Organiser had f’al- hypocrites. We are supposed to be led for on the 12th October. These the representatives of the nation are the kinds of press here. But you here. The people are watching to will do nothing against the guilty see what the Parliament says. I policemen; you will do nothing would say that let us be true to against the officials; you will do noth- some principles and some values and ing against the press; you will do let us not try to hide things. Let nothing againsit Mr. Sathe’s A.HR. us not try to be opportunists in our for putting out all these baseless attitude to our own communities and things as also the T.V. ,You will all fhnt. Tt won’t help T^en, let us assure here that you are very much collectively fight this monster. Tt concerned and all that. It is not a can be done. But we have to be question of blaming each other. The honest about it. 405 Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out o( recent 406 communal riots (Motn.) iiVgftRT ^ r?c jtff I, t ?m ^ ^TTSTT f% 3T? ?mT ^ ?fWf % f ’JrTT ^ Jr 1 3fr fct^ ?fk lT*rnT ^ 3 3 ^ TTT^rrft % ^ ift ?JT5r t ftr '^l<,'i 'dH'+i'l es ^ _ f^PTT 'jfrar *rr ?ftT yrnr^tx ^ r ^ , n fVT ^ HfM'i ^ fVi'dI ^ ^TTcft *ft ^TT^TC §r ^ ^ cPTJ^^ ? fh : 5ft>T % 53TST ^ J T ^ i T f % % TT?^ qr %■ ^ I 5^'!^) ?TT«T ^rrqTT ^ ?fk ^ ^ ^ sft ftr v3H% '•*fl +I'-MtIs?T »n<, >^4^ f'niTT % ?TT*? «ft, ^ arfgr ^ ^ t , fs R ^ ^ te=( I r^9l 7TT ^tcft *ft I iigfHrH^gR ^ «ft ? r ^ «rr, fq-® T ^ ^r t ?mrT 5F?T iT^ qr€f «ft, fjRT ^ %5ftvft5f^ftrti^ ^ f^, ?m r «rr, q^r ^ T t ^*4)^ ?ftT ^ 3nr^ ?rt% *ri^^ fqi? f^pr 1 *ffT?ff ^ ^ 1 ^ % qt® 3TT?rT IPRR' sr?^ «TT sra’ «ft «ft»Trft 'TfjJT fqi? mf%T # ^ ’TTsft ^ ^<+1? ?nt, ^ ^ Jf ?TT P r e ^ 5ft?r *»?!■ j%T ^ ?r^' !flT ^?TT ^ Im — ^ fr^ft^T Jf ?T^ w t ^ I ^^^^qT«ft^#?TT>rtsft^ ^ ^<17 9ft ?H3>TT 5TTf, FT ^ fttT ^SHT ^ ? ^ ^ I * m I — ^ 407 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent communal riots 408 (Motn.) [«ft»T5fi m g r f] idPw ^ 1 fjRT ^ !n»r ^ sTRmr sr%w I I ?nn: ^ ^ -fr^ ^ ?ft IT t J T ^ ftrr ^ t ^ ^ 60 if 3ft ferTT^r ^ % ?rt?>nT % f?R, sfmrPT ^ fFTfiT ’T3TT ^ rft t ^ WTr»TT ?TP^?r % f^, ^ s%?r %, ’mft w k % w tIt wiT f%?<., MieT ^ -*M<. 'i6+<. ’TT*T%’»T^ tT^ ’TTjf ^ h iH'jii >T^ I ^ I ^rar ^nft *T'^ ^ — JTfR*TT »rtsft ^ 9TfT^ 5 ^ % # ?TT^ irft^t^nr % % sPTff I ^••dliiid'i ^r4(N jft <1+^ % $HlO ^TT^TT I— I ?JT ^ ^ ^TT 9F5 ■>ll'Ji*ft I f fUTTt 5f^ ^ |fw ^ I ' f t .lT .^ . % T ^ I H [■ ^ ?t^ WT I I ^ ^ f?: iT^ ^ t | ?At fT iTsp ^J^rrtH: ?twr ^ ^ ?ftfTr ^ % f%rr :3^ % if t | 1 ti '3^ ^ cT’^ i^ ^ iTft ’TT 5r h w ^ ^ ^ T?rTT t, m ff ^ I ir^ ¥ft ^ ^ I ?t^ I t 5Pi^ ^ f% %9PT^ j.Mdii!)T?T f^ T ^ ; ^ ^ ^T«Rfi- i f% 5qT3T m x frw r ff I ?ftT ^ t ai^ ^ ^ ^nrr ^ ?> ft I , ?ft ^ 5fPr i t r ^ t 55^5® 5F=® ^ >ftotro5ifto Jr ^ fen ^rmr f ^T R ^ I ^5PT5r v r ^ "sftiff ^ ^ wm xt s^TjR % ftrij; ^ ^ gxRW ( l i o t n .) [ s f t ^ 'd'l VSl^^ “|5t ^Id *t>^ iftx pjrciil ^ I I ?TT 1947 % nraV ^ % ^r ^^TRTT m 5Tf 5f?t «rT «nr ^ % tr^ q ^ ? r m ^ >rt^ ttml ?ftr '5f Tfrfl’ t I ^ «r, fH“ (^TRTf^) I 5ftT % m r : ^qTSiTeT f5W m% TT •’ I ?t\t ’iraf riVT % lift ^ ^ ^ ?ffT ^ % ^ ir JP^T STRTT t I , ?ftT w ^ ^ 'TT ^? T ^ 5’lnl^ vftrft ^ ^33TJn >m t, ^ 'iT ^ cttt ; % q ^ »RT |, ^R+IT ^ JI?: *15^ I vft ^rfsnff % s r t r ^ nv^ % ^ f ^ ^ '^«( d + ^ «ft m f«n ft % ?TT^ ?Tt.'^ ^ * ftsFTi ^ ft, ^ ^ ^ ^5ffR fw I wtnt # «ft 5PT^ ?fT^ !^?r ^r ^ 5FT% ^ ^ ^ ^ ' sftr ^irm f^f^TT ^ ^ f?r STRT ^ 4xj li, i^JI communal riots (Motn.) fKsrar I ^qiRr^n^j % IF ^ , #5 I, t wt% a? ^ ^ 3ft ?n«f^ ?fk # H'>iHd 5fft ^nm% I I ^ ^ ^ !T fJTJm ^ ^ 'f)?T?rr « n ^ "fisw r *rr t t f v w 'FT «<+t< ^ ^htt; ^ trwr ^pm ?tt?tt 'W5TT «TT IT? t !lfr 3TT?RTT I ??T^ sftT ^ sTSTPT ; ?rk srsiR ^ ^t t ^j t r % 5ft^ ^rrqt flm- i % f ^ 5ft % ^ irt^ TT ^ IT^WHT % <^?T^ ^ JTf !?tft^ I«IT l[t?ft I '^?rr !T ^ p r r i f^ f^^TT if 5ft %^?t «m^ ^ ^ ^fft «ft rrft% ^ ?rr5T jfr ^ ^jfT^ ?Tm q^tf ^ I w?: srtw vrPTT Wr, Ni^'Til % f?iTJ ^ 5fFff ^ »T^ % % ^3TJTT W I 5^ % I ^TKT T? #', ^§T - wtr 'dH ^ ^R T# =T ^TT^ % mT? ^ ^ I rir ^f^JlNHI ^ *1^ 5|T ZTf cRt^ ^FTT «TT ?tY ^ ?r%»TT ^ 't ?Rf ^ 5JTT^^? If vTf 3ft W r^ riT W «TT i r O ’ ^TJTIT ^ f® % f?5T f?TT ^ «ft ^ rrfi'SFT ’ r m *TT I ^ ^Rk TT I I ^%^9nr ^ |5fJTTT^ t r T ^ ^t3 t wif^T % ^-’ % STTfft TTf^ %, ?TT^ ?rt?T ’^ ■ ’TT f% 5Efk % V R iT T V t t ^J2TT?T =f>t 4 i5 ..Situation arising out of DECEM B^ 3, 1980 recent commuTiai riots 416 • (Mofn.) [ ’sft sTffqiT^ p?r ] ^ ^n’f ^ «ft ^ 5f?n!T ^ «(T<) T n r %, % ^ ^ 5?rft^ «ft ^ t^T^TTR" I I t g fsp rr^ ^ « n ^ ’ PT !T5T^^ ^ 'jfn^ 'TrRrmSrs Of ^ % f^ W PT) ^ ^ ?TT^ ^riT% ^ ^ 51^ Tf ’Tf I ^r ^ ^ ?T3TT % I r ft IT? -r? zr^ JTmsTT 'TTef ^ ^qR ^ SRT n f I 5f ^ # I ^ 6!T«T * r § k ;;, I I w % ?TT«T ?TT«T t 3Tf ^ JTT»T t W Si'm ^ ^tfTTTT ’^ IT T fiF ®r? ^T^^r fiT'^ iTTRTWK ^ ?ft7 ^ t| f' ?T^ >T tT ^ ^ * % tlM^lli ■^if^l^. f% r+^ rTT? ^ f?rtr ?Ti'T?T ^ ^ I. fa<-»M >15 'fl' IT # g f w f^nnT "RUT %■ ft: vftBT ir ^ I ^^iCl ^ t ffTwr<;in<» ^ ^ |r « iiftf 3rr T]^ t tnrr ^ ^ «r^ ^ I ?ft 5nr?T ^ ^sTRTT I I 5*r ^ iFtwre : (%jrsrar) : % iramr Jr % WEJrar 5 s r ^ , n q^eft ?TRr sfir 1TO% aA % S|»T ^ # fe ff spt «FOT «t>g «ft am'TTrf ifrsiTT ; t q f %9T if WT ^ ?rnT crtt^ 'TtCT ^ <.^1 5qr f^RT +*1h ^ 'j| '»)«IH ^ ^ =FR^^^T9nrCs ^r t st ? qp9F5^ 14, 16 1980 it ^ ^ ^ I I f^nvTt Tft «rr ^j^RTt ??rr^i5rr< t ?n% ^ 1981 % ^ ir ft ?rrr ^ nr=ft % TTR f e r r i ^ r R f ^ ff«ra- ^ ^ I f% ^ SftiTT % 5RTT scr^fm? it p r ?ft?: w M % ^ !jw t I ^ fgnwR- 'jT'ri^i ^ d WJJT ^ ^ I ?H R ??T % ^y^TTFTt % '>i'j|«)id % 425 Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out of recent 426 communal riots (Motn.) ^ ^ I ? when you face a difficult type of battle, then you have to keep your- 5# ^ ^ !ITT^ «TT5r self cool; you have to be firm yet ^tTRRT ETPn , ?TT3T d+ you should be cool like an iceberg Rvi'jivrvT 5T^ ^ 'TTiT I (ifkanFT and grapple with the particular pro- blem in an analytical and planned- % 15-16 ir snfkw | up type of fashion. I have listened to my friends and I must say that ^ «fV ?rrT% Tft ^ everybody wants to keep India to- gether. On that there is no doubt. TT?r I 'WM •rNifwf Also, everybody dondiemns commu- tt jfNrr I m w t nal tension and rioting. That is also it35^^?PT^ TT^T^JTT- a very good sign. But, in pragmatic terms^ are we going to do it or not, fjTW^ ^ is the big question. In that context, sft JTft % there are certain factor^ which have to be brought to the notice of thi^ House and the public at large. =*1715^ I I JTR T f ^ , iTf t ^ , ^ ^ ^*T^, % 'i'l^l, Communal riots have been taking ftrar, 'TR^rt ?fk v w t h — place all along. Once upon a time it I f fTK ?T>r TTHT^grnfr used to be the policy of divide and rule. The then ruling government— ?rm:T, ^ o vftTRTw s)1t the British Government used to start ’T^TcJTT »Trat 5pr Jtrr ^ pin pricks here and there, engineer communal riots and maximise or r^'^WM ^ ^ r^'5? ■"The original speech was delivered in Tamil. 429 iituation arisinff AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 iSAKA) out of recent 430 communal riots {Motn,) • the State Police Force thes^’^cofftmu- is perennial commimal peace and nal clashes have continued incessanttly amity. This fort^ should comprise of during the past four months. This personnel from Tamil Nadu. We drives one to the doubt that the Cen- assure the Government that we wUl tral Government has become an impo- restore normalcy soon witK the help tent and silent spectator of these Of such a crack force. sinister activities. What ig the Police As soon as she came to know of the doing? What is th^ Government do- blinding of under-trial prisoners in ing? What is the B.S.F. doing? What Bihar, our Prime Minister, Mrs. Gandhi is the Army doing? Are they all be- announced financial assistance of numbed by the brute force of the Rs. 15000 to each 0*^ ^he affected communalists? families from her Relief Fund. Her compassion sboul^ be extended During th^ curfew hours 600 shops were looted by the P.A.C. personnel. to the victims and the families of vic- 1 understand that the" looted property tims of communal clashes in Morada- bad. She should announce forthwith was sold in the market by fhese financial assistance to them from her people and they sent the proceeds Pelief Fund. through mcney-order to their families. 1 demand an in-deptK inquiry by the I am reminded of the famoug say- Government in this sordid afiair. Mr. ing in Thiru Koran—false propaganda Deputy Speaker Sir, we may put up is worse than murder. I say this be- with this also. One can pass over cause of the dubious role being play- the reprehensive arrest of the relief ed by our national papers in ^his hour workers who were helping the victims of distress and de$truction. They and their childi* w Vt f ^ TT^ ^ ^ f5R =!T^ I I ^ 3 ^ ^ ^ ' t ^ JTf »TRHT «rrV 5>jft, T% ^rnr, «(iX ^r ^ ^t| 5TT5n?R f i r ^ , TT5prtfw if 3 [^ ?ft I ? xf m ftwft ?fK i ( ;JVT^ % gsrm »ft ?TR I w ^ ^ ^ fiTRT’T % f MK. mEPUTY-SPEAKER; You SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Mr. have already read your motion. Shri Deputy-Speaker, let me, at the’ out- Abdul Samad had spoken. I am com- set express my deep sense of grati- ing to you. tude to you for having directed the First let us know this. Is it the Government from the Chair in res- pleasure of the House that We can sit ponse to the statements in the House longer? to come up with a discussion on this vital subject. We are discussing thi:^ SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: No, very important subject. no. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Why MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do you can’t you take this credit for having want the Minister to reply? pressed for the debate in this House? SEVERAL HON. MEISBERS: Yes. I want to give that credit to you. MR. dEPUTY-SPEAKER: N o w , the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Minister will reply. You express your gratitude to him. SHRI G. M. BAN AT WALLA: Mr. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I have moved Deputy-Speaker, Sir at the very out- the Substitute Motion. You won^t set and at the commencement of the allbw me to speak. I have asked the debate, the hon. speaker want^ res- House to debate my motion. You traint on the part of the members won’t allow me to speaTT If 'is not participating in the discussion on thw proper. motion. I am, however, constrained to gay that when human blood, when Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, you do the ISTood of the Muslims, has flown not even allow me to ask the llouse cheaper than water, when human to debate my motion. That ig not a dignity was trampled so reprehen- fair practice. sibly, and when even barbarism hung MR. d EPUTY-SPEAKER: m a t do its head in shame, it is difficult to >X)u want me to do? exercise restraint. However, we all know that the debate has to be both SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA; Let light-bearing and fruit-bearing. This me speak. is a secular democracy which is on trial. Therefore, we have to face MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Y o u are and admit certain facts, the truth ^iven five minutes. All right. You inay speak. Take five minutes only must be faced howsoever Fitter that truth may be; the ostrich-like policy because Mr. Samad from your party ^^ad already gpoken will merely aggravate the situation. It cannot be denied that the communal SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI holocaust tha rocked various parts 'Patna): How much time hag been of the country, specially Moradabad, accepted? was a national tragedy beyond words MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You The brutal firing by the P.A.C. on the want an extension. Let me ask: Is congregation at Moradabad wluch was it the pleasure of the House to extend there to o^er Id-prayers has sur- by one hour? passed all records of police brutality. That is a thing that has to be stressed SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: No. and must be stressed again and again. ^^0. Let this be postponed morrow. 20 hrs. Mr . DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No. We Sir, there was a pretext that there bave to finish it to-day. Mr. Banat- was some brickbating in some confer 39 Situation arising out of DECEMBER 3, 1980 recent ComollMil fja|| | 440 (Mctn.} [Shri G. M. Banatwalla] their saviours protecting them and then those people burnt small girls because of the intrusion of a pig. But and the charred bodies were thrown it can be very well understood that into the laps of their mothers. some commotion here or some brick- bating there cannot give an open Sir, I must say—because of the general licence to the police to fire in- limited time at my disposal—that diJKriminately and brutally upon what has happened in Moradabad and a congregation of Id prayers. other places is a stunning ^ase study Sir, the trigger happy police fired in the dismal failure of the police and into the Idgah over that small wall; the administration. There was ten- »ot satisfied, the blood-thirsty police sion; there were several incidents tak- ru^ed inside chasing the Namazis in- ing place; the Intelligenfe had warned to the Ekk Ratwali Masjid and shot the U.P. Chief Minister and he had tbem dead there also. The walls of accepted it in the Vidhan Sabha, ^bat masjid with the bullet marks saying: which I have personally geen stand “The Intelligence ^nad, on August an elequent testimony to this. 12, reported that any stray anima! Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at Gull could cause trmible the next day Shaheed we had another open gene- when a large assembly of Muilimi» ral licence given to the PAC. Those would meet at EdgahJ[o ofTer pra- ^ o fell as a result of the police lathi yers'\ " blows were caught by the leg, drag- After this intelligence report, such a ged to the police van, shot dead and massacre has taken place; the Gov- ttoen flung into tlie vans. ernment’s statement that they are ‘saviours of minorities* is most shock- Sir, I must admit that in our secu- ing. I will now deal with this. .. lar democracy there has been at least •ne instance in which police officials MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have been punished by the govern- have already very ably dealt with it ment. After the riots in Bhiwandi Please conclude. and other places there was Madon SHRI G. M. BANATWALX^A: Sir, Commission—Justice Madon i^ its if you allow me, I will be taster. Sir. port named various police of^^cers. I Calumny after calumny Rave beeti was a member of the Maharashtra heaped upon the Muslim community. Legislative Assembly and in response Police officials have been given to my unstarned question, the gov- all sorts of encouragement. I quote ernment replied ^^at there was a de- from New Age. This is dated partmental inquiry to ascertain the November 2, 1980. It says: quantum of punishment. After that ^‘On more than one occasion we inquiry the policemen who were guilty have commented on the i*^le of our of dereliction of their duty—the news media (the Agencies and the policemen who were found g^il^y AIR’s newscast included) in foment- of having aided and abetted the ing communal mischief. We Eave crime—^were fined Rs. 10/ - each also noted how police officials deli- and these Rs. 10/- were to be paid by berately feed the newspapers and these policemen found guilty ^ these agencies with communally slanted crimes at the rate of Re. 1|- being reports, with a purpose*’. deducted from their salary every month. Sir, when such i^ the situa- The subject was the PTI news r®* tion how are we going to control the port which said: anti-social elements? That is a thing “The Police today (October 25) to be considered. recovered about 15,000 hand bombs from an underground factory inside In Aligarh at Manak Chowk the a mosque in Old Lucknow*'. anti-social elements—^the rioters— eame crossing over roof topB. The This ig the type of baseless news PAC held ladderfl for them, stood as which the police officials fed and I "55I------^5iiuaiwn wrmng— AunAnAiAivii IZ, IW Z I,J i l l l . i l J LfUl UJ 7BLB7H-----TfTfT communal riots (Motn,) ask: What action was taken against emment. (Interruptions) Don’t a]l these officials? Sir, in my Substi- worry. You belong to ruling party,— tute Motion, I have said this... both of you. Please sit down. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You Mr. Minister will speak now. have dealt with it already. Please (Interruptions) conclude. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA; I Minister is replying now. He will have suggested a few remedies and take care of you all. the;yr have to be taken up by the Gov- (Interruptions) ernment. Let the Government tell us SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazi- what action is being taken against the pur): Sir, you have permitted to police officials. In tSe Financial Ex- speak all others. Why don’t you per- press dated 29-9-80 this is what has mit me to speak? I also want to been said: speak. ’ “In Aligarh too the mosque was MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am not searched and crackers used for an- permitting you to speak. nouncing IFTAR (Break of fast) (biterruptions)** during Ramzan whicfn were volun- tarily surrendered by the Imam, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am not were described by a local paper as allowing you. I have called the nine bombs recovered from the Minister. Mosque’\ (Interruptions) Sir, I have to conclude by appealing srr4^i t for the return of sanity to the morbid % iTf t w ^ mind. It is, as I said, our own ‘secu- I f ^ I, lar democracy’ which is on trial. 1 urge upon Government to act firmly, »ff , . . ^ take vigorous steps, against those morbid elements who may call for the establishment of Hindu Rashtra SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: Or who have infiltrated into the Police Sir, if there is a consensus of the Force. They level various cRa?|es House to extend the time of the House, against the Muslim community which you can do so. is nothing but hallucination of mor- SHRI KAMALAPATI TRIPATHI: bid mind. But I urge that the en- Sir, I propose that the time of the quiry that is going on by the District House niay further be extended by Judge should be scrapped and in its one hour. place a judicial enquiry by a Supreme MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Is it the Court Judge should be instituted. pleasure of the House to extend the With these words, while thanking you, time of the House by one hour? Mr. Deputy Speaker, I urge upon the Government to see that they act in a SOME HON’BLE MEMBERS; Yes. ^irm manner and in a determined MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: All right. ( manner for safeguarding our secular The time of the House is extended by democracy and establishment of com- one hour. munal harmony in our country. With (Interuptions)** these words I conclude my speech. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you Thank you very much. get up one by one, I can follow; I am (Interruptions) not hearing what you are saying now. Please sit dow n... (Intemiptiotw). ^ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Order ^ please. Now the Minister will reply SHRa R. P. YADAV (Madhopura): ^ am not permitting anybody else. On You cannot take members so casually; behalf q£ the Government he will re- you have to decide up to what time ply. He will take care of the Gov* we are sitting. **Not recorded. ------(Motn,) MR. DEPUTV-SPEAKER: We have SHRI ZAINUL b a s h e r (Ghazi- alre^y decided to sU up to 0 O’clq^, PW ) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as the you have not followed that... (/ntcr- Honourable Speaker has rightly pb- ruptions). served before, this is a very serious matter on the communal situation, SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: I which is prevailing today in our request Mr. Yadav not to get agitated. country. Our heads really hang in On our side also many Members are shame and we should give the serious- desirous to speak. The time has al- ness to this issue which it deserves. ready been extended. There is no reason why he should get agitated. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is not Their party~ will also get a chance. a question of party politics. It is a fact that communal riots have taken MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: For the place during the Congress rule as well information of the House, I may state as during the Janata and Lok Dal that even with the extended hours, rules whether in the Centre or In the the opposition parties have already States. It is a fact that communal exhausted more time. I was very riots have taken place and it is ajso careful. As a matter of fact, 27 mem- a fact that to whatever political party bers from the ruling party have given we belong, we have not been able to their names. The time first extended check these riots. This is a very un- was 2 hours and now another hour fortunate part and we should apply has been added. Out of the total time, our mind to this seriously. the opposition has takers 2 hours and 45 minutes. As a matter of fact, the Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what is ruling party has not exhausted their the situation in U.P. today? U.P. is time as yet, whereas 1 called one shaken with communal riots. Two or member each from the opposition three months have now passed. Ten- parties, I did not see whether it was sion still exists and the fact is that a small or a big party. I will, there- the Muslims in Uttar Pradesh are fore, allow members only from the living under the shadow of death, ruling party who want to speak, torture and humiliation. They feel themselves within the range of PAC SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: On a guns. The PAC is a notorious force point of order. You have to give about which mention has been made time to the opposition spokesmen by very responsible persons. Its his- from this extended time. tory of repression does not begin in MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The Allahabad or Moradabad or Aligarh. opposition has already taken two It dates back by more than ten years. hours and forty-five minutes. I came from U.P. and I still remember the PAC first let loose looting and SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: That raping in Maunathbfianjan, District has not been the convention in this Azamgarh in 1969. From then, the House. Please call a few members PAC has tortured and killed Muslim.^ from the opposition side also. of Uttar Pradesh. MR. DEPUTY-gPEAKER: I have already given sufficient time to the Sir, within the last ten years, Mem- opposition parties. bers have had experience—and seen with horror how PAC men coming SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: It is not during the curfew hours in the night Xair and it has never been done. If stopping at the door of some people, you extend the time like tins, you forcing the doors open, entering the should give a part of that to the oppo- houses, torturing the occupants, loot- sition. ing properties, raping the ladies and taking the men to the Police station5. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please beating them on the streets. This ha^^ leave it to my discretion. Shri Zainul been the experience of the Muslims Basher. in Uttar Pradesh, whether it is in communal ndts (Motn.) Allahabad, or Varanasi, whether it is BSF, CRPF and military could not in Ferozabad, Aligarh. Moradabad or liave provided security to them and different places. only the P.A.C. couid have provided But, Sir, this time the 9P^cial fea- security to them. This is the state of ^ ture has been that th^ PAC has affairs. Uttar Pradesh has undergone broken its all-time record in Morada- agony and irriqparable loss is done to bad in torturing, killing, raping and the Muslims and Muslims have lost looting—All-time records are broken complete faith in the effectiveness of in Moradabad. Many independent the P.A.C. to provide them security. observers, many r^onsible p^ples. They have faith and confidence in the many responsible journalists belong- military, in the Border Security Force ing to the important newspapers and in the C.R.P.F., they have no and magazines who have gone to complaint against them. Moradabad, are of the view that the Many hon. members have given disturbances were not communal. It various suggestions. (J am also going is a police repression; it is a sort of to give some suggestions. Before I police action against the innocent poor do that, I pray to God that Morada- muslims of Moradabad. Believe me, bad is the last communal disturbance any army of occupation could have in the country. Our Government not done what the P.A.C. has done in should ensure, our political leaders Molradabftd. This is the state of belonging to different political parties affairs in Moradabad, Aligarh and should ensure that Moradabad inci- other places. dent should not be repeated again; if What was the administration doing? it will be repeated again, I am sorry The administration was also suffering to point out that Muslims will lost from communal frenzy. *nie Muslim complete faith in the machinery of policemen and the P.A.C. men we^re law and order and a section of them kept unarmed though they were in may try to arrange fpr their pwix small number. A conspiracy was security; and if they do it, it will not hatched to kill Muslim c^cers in only ruin their own fate but also con- Moradabad, Aligarh, Varanasi and tribute to a great extent to the in- Allahabad. I remember during 1978 stability of the country. This should in Varanasi, a bomb was thrown on be kept in mind. Now, I am going «n Additional Inspector-General of to give some suggestions, both short-^ Police who belonged tQ the Muslim term and long-term measures. The community before the Office of the short-term measures are: A committee SP City Police He had only oixiered of the Members of Parliament should a searcfn into the belongings of the be appointed to inquire into the inci- P.A.C. against whom complaints were dents at Moradabad, Aligarh and ^nade of looting. A bomb was also Allahabad; (2) The conduct of Police thrown on the car of Muslim District and P.A.C. should be included in the Magistrate at Allahabad this time. subject-matter for inquiry; (3) The An attempt was made on the role the District Magistrate and Muslim Senior Superintendent of the Senior Superinteflfdent of Police, Police at Aligarh. This has been the Moradabad has been far from satis- case. The P.A.C. had hatched a cons- factory. The Muslim delegations ^ piracy and our Home Minister was which have met the Home Minister ^ind enough to order the withdrawal and the Prime Minister, must have of the P.A.C. from Moradabad. But complained about their behaviour. To 1 am sorry to notice that the U.P. restore the confidence among the Mus- Government did not pay heed on his lims at Moradabad, it is necessary advice and the P.A.C. remained there that these officers should be imme- on the pretext that some people be. diately transferred; (4) Persons in- longing to the majority community discriminately arrested at these places demonstrated before a police static^, should be released immediately, their demanding that the P.A.C. was a must cases should be reviewed after the ^or their security. IJ wonder how the report of the Parliamentary Com- (M otn.) * [Shri Zainul Basheer] tral forces are called for or if the State administration does not control mittee. Those who have become dis- the disturbances within 48 hours, the abled on account of severe beating by Central Government should declare the Police and PAG should be granted that area as a disturbed area and take Rs. 25,000. The families of those who over the administration of that area. have been killed in Police firing Suitable legislation should be brought should be given compensation of forward in this matter and if neces- Rs. 50,000. The family of a person sary the Constitution should also be killed in a Railway accident gets amended. (Interruptions) Rs. 50,000. (interruptions) Many MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Mr. Syed people have fled from Moradabad due Muzaffar Husain. to Police harassment and wrong in- (Interruptio^is) volvement in F.I.R. conditions should SHRI KAMALAPATI TRIPATHI: be created so that they can return My request is to allow only five and live in peace. (Interruptions) I minutes for every speaker. Other- am giving suggestions. One more wise, the session will go upto 12 minute, Sir. O’clock. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The rul. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That is ing party members... also my request. I repeat my re- (Interruptions) quest. (Interruptions) SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: I am giving very imp(^tant suggestions, Sir. The mosques which have been in m j t t k r k , destroyed should be reconstructed at Government expenses. One mosque w h T f, Tfttm, which is reported to have been con- ^ fsRT# f q w k ^ ^ verted into a temple should be re- turned to the Muslims. Banks and ^ prr 'TT WITHPT ^ther Government financial institu- ^ t I ions should come forward in a bi^ way to assist the businessmen of Moradabad and Aligarh. ^ I 33 (Interruptions) SHRI ZAINUL BASHEER; I -jm ^ 5nT3f 5*TTtt tftnrr suggesting long term measures. n WT ^ t ■— (Interruptions) A peace force consisting of a strong battalion should be created in U.P. in ?ft t , which 50 per cent representation should be given to Muslims. (Inter- feW TT^-W ^ ruptions) This peace force should be ?ft deployed at the time of communal riots. (Interruptions) rft sT’TRcT MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am call- 5!m w m ^ 5 ^ ^ ^Tt(, ing Mr. Syed Muzaffar Hussain. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Only one point more, Sir. iRTJTr 5IRiTt (Interruptions) pTwIwf if, SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: ‘If the State administration cannot control tft the comxnxmal disturbances and cen- 449 Situation arising AGRAHAYANA 12, 1902 (SAKA) out of recent 45) communal riots (Motn.) ? tnfOTR, httst TfT I % ?rm fir f^«-|fdM'V IT? ^ I t ^ ^ I ^ ft :gr^ ^ ^ ?nmt, 5ft I, ?Tr>r f*T)^1Kld T t 3lt cT^'t^ =giR ^ dvrir+r ? R ^ t | t , ^ " f ^ ? m cT?^ wtr tT^-t^ ^ «fi »j3rij><^-< |n5T : ^ r - I I JJTT^T? if ^ ^ |?IT I , w ? 5ft ? m 5ft»r ^ ^ I r. 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