1. No Documents Have Been Posted on Familysearch for Simeon Adams Dunn Born About 1774 Or for His Wife, Sally Bath

RESEARCH RELATED TO JAMES BATH

1. No documents have been posted on FamilySearch for Simeon Adams Dunn born about 1774 or for his wife, Sally Bath

2. Simeon Adams Dunn b. 1803 in Groveland, Livingston, New York identified his parents in 4 records and for his grandparents, James Bath and Mrs. James Bath in 1 record. a. Simeon Adams Dunn b. 1803 (patriarchal blessing given 22 June 1840- gave parents as Simeon and Sarah Dunn (No other information) b. In Simeon’s Family Bible purchased in 1871 and recorded after this date “Simeon Adams Dunn son of Simeon Dunn and Sarah Bath” No other dates or places given for parents. No mention of parents for either Simeon Dunn or Sarah Bath” c. 1841 Baptisms for the Dead in Nauvoo, Illinois (The original records give only the name of the proxy and the name of the deceased for whom the baptism was done Lists Simeon Adams Dunn proxy for Simeon Adams Dunn relationship of proxy: son James Dunn proxy for Sarah Dunn relationship of proxy: son Nothing for James Bath d. In 1871 in the endowment house Simeon Adams Dunn performed Baptisms for his parents. He was proxy for his father and Emeline Dunn was proxy for his mother, Sarah . Again the record gives only their names with no birth place or date. e. Simeon Adams Dunn went on a trip to the East starting in the Fall of 1873 to search for information for his ancestors. After his return , when the St. George Temple was completed he spent several months in St. George. At that time he did a baptism for James Bath. Someone else was proxy for Mrs. James Bath. This was the only information given.

All other dates for birthdates for Simeon Adams Dunn (father to Simeon Adams Dunn born 1803) and Sarah or Sally Bath have been from approximations and family histories. As far as I have been able to determine no one has found other documents for Simeon Adams Dunn, (Sr) or his wife Sally Bath.

It is important to keep in mind that if family histories are correct, Simeon was only 7 years old when his mother died and 9 when his father died. There is a possibility that his memory of the names may not be correct.

No record, source, or document for a James Bath in New Jersey has been posted or identified. No burial for a James Bath in 1829 has been found. Simeon Adams Dunn b. 1803 did not give the name of his maternal grandmother other than Mrs. James Bath Simeon Adams Dunn b. 1803 indicated in 1 record that he was the nephew of James Bath and Polly Bath. No birthdates were given. The record states they were born in New Jersey. I have seen no record or source for a James Bath with children Sarah, Polly, and James.

James Baths that have been thought to be the grandfather of Simeon Adams Dunn born 1803:

1. James Bath listed on a tree on ancestry.com: Now on Family Search as James Bath [MGTZ- ZYQ] and his wife: Margarita [MGTZ-ZYJ] listed in U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s by William P. Filby. the source given is “The Magazine of American Genealogy Section 4 no. 1-27 page 216.

FHL 973 W2v Immigrants to America before 1750 : an alphabetical list of immigrants to the Colonies before 1750, compiled from official and other records Author: Virkus, Frederick Adams Publication: Baltimore, Maryland : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1965- Reprint of original published: [S.l. : s.n.], 1929-1932 ; excerpted from the Magazine of American Genealogy, section IV, numbers 1-27. page 216. Includes surnames A through Bat. “ Bath (Beth), James settled at Albany, N. Y.; m. Margarita______; issue: 1-David (bap. May 26, 1723; (see N206y) David Bath is ID MGTZ-ZTX This source would indicate that this James Bath? was born in the late 1600’s and would be too old to be the father of Sarah or Sally Bath.

2. James Bath from Chelsfield, Kent, England James Bath [ID: M9YL-CM7] chr. 6 September 1745 Chelsfield, Kent, England- s/o Henry Bath md Mary Know [ID:M9YX-W14] 29 May 1773 Chelsfield, Kent England. Mary Know Chr. 16 Jun 1754 Chelsfield, Kent, England d/o Thomas Know and Susan Children: Susanna Bath [ID: MDN8-27L] Chr. 15 Jan 1775 James Bath [ID: L63V-K1S Chr. 3 Nov 1776 John Bath [MDN8-2SW] Chr. 1 Nov 1778 William Bath [ID: LCZ9-1V5] Chr. 5 Nov 1780 Thomas Bath [ID:L63V-GD4] Chr. 23 Jun 1782 Henry Bath [ID:MDN8-K1M] Chr. 9 Nov 1783 George Bath [ID:MDN8-KYQ] Chr. 12 Mar 1786 All Children Chr. in Bromley, Kent England. Christening in Parish Record

This James Bath cannot be the father of Sarah or Sally Bath who married Simeon Adams Dunn. All of his children were born in England. This is the time period when Sarah Bath was born in the U. S.

3. James Bath [ID: LDQ4-197] b. 1700 of Bristol, Gloucestershire, England married Sarah Alexander [ID: KHF1-MYL] b. 1712 d/o George Alexander . They married 5 May 1730 Bristol England. Married in Monthly Meeting of the Quakers in Bristol, England Their son James Bath [ID24RH-CWH] was born 10 January 1735 Birth Recorded in the Records of the Society of Friends (Quakers) Bristol meeting, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England James son of James Bath and Sarah his wife borne at Barton Street the 10 day of January 1735/1736 Quaker records This James Bath married Martha Windle [ID:LZW7-9FV] 1 Dec 1757 in Frenchay, Gloucester, England. Martha was born 24 July 1736 in Frenchay. She was the daughter of Jasper Windle and Mary Recorded in the Monthly meeting of Frenchay.

James and Martha had one child. Frances [ID: L6H7-HN3], a daughter, born: 21 Nov 1758 Stokes Croft, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England. Recorded in the Monthly meeting of Bristol, Society of Friends (Quaker) also recorded in: General Register Office: Society of Friends' Registers, Notes and Certificates of Births, Marriages and Burials. Records of the General Register Office 11 Month 21 day 1758 Frances Bath. Parents: James & Martha Bath/ Where born: James Parish Sadly all members of this family died within a few months. James and Martha died in December 1758 and Frances died in April of 1759.

Burials General Register Office: Society of Friends' Registers, Notes and Certificates of Births, Marriages and Burials. Records of the General Register Office. Bristol meeting. page 137 Death: 9th day, 12th Month 1758 James Bath . Of what Parish: of James’s . Burial Yard: Redcliff General Register Office: Society of Friends' Registers, Notes and Certificates of Births, Marriages and Burials. Records of the General Register Office. Bristol meeting. Page 138 day not readable. 12 Month 1758 Martha Bath. Of what parish: of James’s. Burial Yard: Redclift 6th day, 4th Month 1759 Frances Bath Infant child of Jas. Bath deceased died at Daronend . burial yard: Redclift

A calendar of wills proved in the Consistory Court (City and Deanery of Bristol Division) of the Bishop of Bristol, 1572-1792 Lists James Bath probate 1859 and Martha Bath probate: 1759

This James Bath could not be the father of Sally Bath, as he died in England and did not have a daughter, Sarah or Sally.

3. James Bath of St. Andrew, Holborn, London in the Borough of Camden James Bath [MSFK-YY9] married to Ann Evans [MSFK-YY8] a. possibly James Bath Chr. in St. Andrew, Holborn, London, England the 7 May 1727, son of James and Jane Bath b. Ann Evans could possibly be one of the Ann Evans Chr. St. Andrew, Holborn, London: Ann Evans Christened 7 May 1733, daughter of Thomas and Frances Evans or Ann Evans Christened 31 Oct 1734, daughter of John and Elizabeth Evans

St. Andrew, Holborn, London (Camden), England Marriage of James Bath and Ann Evans 23 Jul 1752/ county: London/ Borough: Camden, Parish: St. Andrew Holborn/ Children: James Bath [MSFK-YTX], Mary Heady Bath [MSH2-13R] St. Andrew, Holborn, County: London/ Borough: Camden James Bath/ son of James and Ann Bath of Grays Inn Lane/ Baptism: 20 May 1753

St. Andrew, Holborn, County: London/ Borough: Camden Mary Heady d/o James & Ann Bath of Grays Inn Lane/ Baptism: 11 May 1755

Burial of Mary Heady Bath 21 May 1755 Abode: Grays Inn Lane, St. Andrew, Holborn, London, England

Burial of Ann Bath 13 Feb 1757 Tuttle Street, St. Andrew, Holborn, London, England no burial for a James Bath Other Bath burials in St. Andrew, Holborn, London, England Eady Bath Grays Inn workhouse Feb 1763 Jane Bath Grays Inn workhouse 14 May 1771 Mary Bath Grays Inn workhouse 1 June 1773 Sarah Bath Grays Inn workhouse 29 March 1762

This James is more difficult to be certain whether he remained in England or left. He was born in Greater London. There are several marriages for a James Bath in the area of greater London. James Bath, a bachelor, to Susan Barsley at St. Mary Whitechapel, London on 28 Nov 1776 in the Borough of Town Hamlets James Bath to Hannah Mead 25 Dec 1771 Westbury, Wiltshire James Bath to Elizabeth Burdock 17 June 1770 Cornwall

The Following are burials for a James Bath: James Bath buried 25 July 1763 St. Michael Wood Street, London, England lowest place in church James Bath buried 2 April 1773 St. Matthew Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England James Bath buried 31 December 1767 Westminster, Middlesex, England James Bath buried 31 December 1768 Westminster, Middlesex, England

There is also a James Bath apprenticed to Thomas Bishop in 1780. He is listed as a cabinet maker. Parish: St. Leonards Shoreditch, London, England

Conclusion: Because of the dense population in the London area and the lack of ages or parents’ names in marriage records and burial records at this time, it is not possible to say whether the James Bath christened in 1753 in London ever left England. There is no immigration record for a James Bath leaving England 1753-1776. Because there are few records indicating immigration to the U. S. prior to 1820 this is not conclusive. However, no record of a James Bath has been found in the United States, particularly in New Jersey, New York, or Pennsylvania in the time period of 1750-1800. In order to provide evidence of Sally Bath and a possible parent, James Bath, additional research is necessary in the United States and possibly in England.

4. Concerning a marriage of James Bath and Mary Ann Noe. Simeon Adams Dunn b. 1803 did not state his maternal grandmother was Mary Ann Noe. I am not aware of any history of Simeon Adams Dunn that states his grandmother was Mary or Mary Ann Noe.

Mary Ann Noe [ID: LH8V-PPH] , a daughter of John Noe [L8Z9-QN3] and Catharine Trembley [LH7J- 8KR]. John Noe had only two children: A daughter Mary Ann Noe [LH8V-PPH] born about 1744 and a son Peter Noe [KL6X-L5N] born about 1746. His daughter Mary Ann Noe Clarkson died in 1779 before her father, John Noe. It would not be logical that he had two living daughters with the same name and his known daughter by that name lived until John was 59 years old. . Mary Ann Noe married John Clarkson 28 May 1768 in Middlesex, New Jersey John Noe and his daughter Mary Ann Clarkson are both buried in the First Presbyterian Churchyard in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey. They are found on findagrave.com I have attached the Will of John Noe. In that will he names heirs as his wife, Catharine; his son, Peter; and three grandsons: Noe Clarkson, James Clarkson and John Clark Noe. This would indicate he had no other heirs on the 8th of April 1788 when he wrote his will. Therefore this Mary Ann Noe was not the wife of James Bath.

Submitted by Paula Paradise e-mail: [email protected]