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A special thanks to Lionel Vargas. Wim Boluyt. With each issue of this publication, we have tried to have tried to present enough information for our readers to John Thompson. Bill Power. Kevin Allison. incorporate suggestions from our readers. Many have said find the titles listed. Obviously they won't all be on the shelf Charles Gates. Anne Stephenson. Sincerely they enjoy our interviews, while other·have pointed out we at your local religious gift shop or record outlet. Therefor, Paul. Code of Ethics. Dig Hay Zoose. Greg Griffin. our advertisers and our subscribers. could be interviewing artists who are less known and more we've given you addresses for mail order stores, catalogues, alternative. So in this issue we've given you three interviews, and even many of the artists themselves. We've also listed two of which are unknown to many. addresses for other publications. We are the first to admit ACM JOURNAL Another frequent question concerns our product listing that we'll never be all things to all people. We've added two section. We began ACM Journal because there were no new musical categories - Rap and Alternative Dance. There Post Office Box 1273 publications that gave an overview of the international are also many new and upcoming projects listed. Sumner. WA 98390 alternative Christian music scene. reviews can be And finally, many of our readers are involved in music or (206) 863·0632 helpful to some, butthey are often filled with personal bias and have artistic friends. We will continue to print information fluff, many independent are never reviewed, while others are relative to the business end of the music industry, mentioned years after their product was released. Reviews emphasizing issues relevant to independent artists. If you Published February. June & October can be influenced by advertising pressures, real or imagined. have suggestions for future articles or interviews, or would You'll find no album reviews in this publication. Instead, we'll just like to share your ideas or opinions, please call or write. interview many of the most outstanding artists, feature their We look forward to your involvement as mature individually $5 Un ited States, A.P.O .. F.P .O. music on our annual compilation cd's, and highlight and as a publication. S7 Canada and MeXICO noteworthy projects in our product listing section. To make In Christian Service, $8 South America and Overseas a long explanation even longer, the music listings are based on Cilecks must be payable In U S Funds the premise that one cannot find what .one does not know --~---- ..._------exists (a concept that has some parallels in Christianity). We ~ Pr int ed In Amer ica Copyright 1991

money. Even the Christian music industry is not exempt from underhanded business tactics. Those living in the greater SeattIe area have been faced with other major obstacles. No support from MISC. NOTES Christian radio, no major venues, no promotion, nor communica tion between bands and interested individuals. Now for some good news .. .November So, you're in a band. You've got a solid set and tape with inserts. Then you market the shirts, the practice and do more shows. marks the opening of the Solid Rock Cafe at Cal­ some shows under your belt. Through your hard tapes, a few stickers and some photos. By my Now what? Re-invest your money. Make more vary Fellowship of Seattle. Every Fridaynight, this work you've managed to scrape up about $4,000. estimate, after expenses, you'd have a profit of shirts and tapes. Start putting together a demo club will feature Northwest bands, dance nights, Aguy calls you upand tells you he wants to "help" about$5O. That may not sound like much,butyou package to send to record companies (Le. tape, open mikes and more. It has a new full-size stage you by taking your money. He, of course, promises now have $4,050 in the bank. Seventy people have photo, bio, sticker) if that is what you wish to and P.A., and an espresso bar. Also coming in you all sorts of wonderful things in return for your your tape, and they'll probably share it with 1 or2 pursue. Create an image and develop a following 1992: A music festival featuring rock, metal, alter­ investment. What do you do? You tell him to other people. That means, collectively, maybe 120 for your band. You might consider a responsible native, punk, and rap bands. We want to see this kindly find another fool who will fall for what is people are listening to your tunes. Forty-eight and reliable booking/ promotion company to help become an annual event. January/February will clearly a complete rip-off. In a day and age when people are wearing your t-shirts - free publicity! you with contacts. I strongly suggest you only be the starting point for the first NCMI Network some secular bands are spending 1 million dollars Are you beginning to get the picture? The idea is work with people that you thouroughly check out (Northwest Christian Music Industry) meeting. A to record their , what can you realistically to make your money work for you. first - don't ever deal with any individual or com­ time for studio people, musicians, bands, and pro­ do with your meager $4,000? Suprisinglyenough, Something else to keep in mind - if you don't pany that asks you to give them money upfront moters to get together to exchange numbers and you can really do a lot more than you think. To have the money togetquality merchandise, DON'T without a written contract promising a tangible share what they are involved in. Rumor has it that demonstrate, let's look at what you can do for DOlT! You'll be cutting your own throat. Nobody return on your investment. In other 'words, if there is strong support for a new Christian radio under $1 ,000. For example, with $890 you could wants to buy t-shirts that shrink so small after one you're not getting tapes, promo photos and so station with a balanced playlist. There is also start with 48 two-color t-shirts, 100 two-color 4 wash that you can't wear them. Nobody wants a forth, take your money elsewhere. Record/ book­ interest for a Christian music store (no, not a book­ inch square stickers, 500 black and white glossies, tape that sounds like it was recorded in a giant ing companies are businesses just like any other. store). Uyou have any questions about any of these cover studio time for a 16-track 3 song demo mixed soup can and falls apart in your tape deck. Save They need to make money to survive. Sometimes things, need booking or promotion infromation, or down to DAT, and walkaway with 70 copies of the your money until you can do it right. Meanwhile, they will go to extraordinary lengths to get that just want to talk, please call Bill at (206) 782-5407.

which would translate a message through a se­ quence of relative events. Concert and stage shots have their place, in small doses, especially for those whose geographical status make it impos­ sible to view today's most popular acts in the live VIDEO KILLS setting. . I'm sure that this opinion will be quickly extin­ The Buggies were for what they can'tachieveon DATorin concert by ries more weight than G-O-D in the eyes of today's guished with even the smallest sigh of disdain, yet its right my friends lip-syncing and air-brushing their way into our secular artist, management and label team. 'an eerie feeling that has been rustling through my ... and it's only taken VCR or video channel through elaborate sets, props As you can tell, video bores me to tears. In fact, soul for several months. Video certainly has the nine years for their and makeup. Reality quickly emerges, sad to say, if there were such a thing, I would much rather power to minister, edify and entertain; as almost any prophetic MTV track once they descend from the golden platform and watch a 24-hour channel devoted exclusively to medium does. However, it may also provide our Video Killed the Radio return to their humble surroundings. Hair exten­ fish cleaning and the history of bait. Sarcastic, yet nalveand absorbent masses with just another excuse Star to weave its in­ sionsare folded and tucked neatly intoa moth-free serious, I feel that this industry's vid-kings may to worship the little black container that lives inside evitable web around environment...the two rolls of duct tape that held want to re-evaluate their intentions before video the little black box thatkeeps the big black book in the an industry which in their gut must be surgically removed in order to kills the Christian radio and concert star. Begin by topdresserdrawer. I don'thatevideom;justcheeseball presently appears to pull off shiny rock boots and the quick tan lotion eliminating the ego barons whose soul desire is to video. I don't hate people; just the ones who star in be inches from the that would make Don Ho envious must be cleaned be the next Jon Bon Jovi or Kip Winger. U Jesus' cheesball video. In fact,! don't even hatecheeseballs; back door of Mdme. off with a forklift and blowtorch. were a modern day producer; he would probably just the ones that try tOjumpoutofthecanwhenI pop Tousseau'shouseof It's no secret that concept and concert video is concentrate on the concept (or parabalic) video open the safety cap ... wax. The question "Beta or VHS?" quickly re­ the way to go economically. And this, of course, is placed ordinary dinner dubitations s,!ch as "red or the major lure. Video rentals across the country white wine?," "meat or potatoes?" and "salt or have doubled over the past five years. Liveconcert pepper?". attendance is down at least 30% from last summer In fact, if the classic track Tales of the Great Ulysses and ticket prices have escalated 15% in the same had ever been caught in the swirling vortex of time frame. Fewer and fewer concert hounds are modern video delusion, we might be asking our­ leaving the security of their 99 cent concert hall, selves a far more serious question. Creme or renting instead glossy reproductions of Rush, Yes, Sugar? The affordability and visual ecstasy that White Heart or Amy due to the exorbitant cost of modern day music offers for many of our prima an arena ticket ($23 average). Even Metallica's donna artists has gotten way out of hand. And I'm lead singer, James Hetfield, whose band has just not just talking about the secular frontier, where completed only their second video, feels the crunch people like Alice Cooper can call every person and compromise. "Nowadays it's really strange­ under the age of 18 "Stoopid", while tossing in a all these giant acts selling millions of records, and few buxom roadblocks amongst his distorted video no one comes to see them," Hetfield told Entertain­ 13 5-7pm PST trail mix. ment Weekly, "They can watch them on MTV, As you can already tell by the tone of this piece, pretty much. And they can get a better look at 20 5-7prn PST this expose will not be some self-serving milk toast 'em." plea to be a good little boy and join your local4H As a child, I was blessed to have a father establishment. Let's just consider this opinion a who allowed me to become "junior disc December 27 5-7pm PST warning of sorts; to the future of our visual ind us­ jockey" on our ride home from grade try and the youth which look to our artist's ex­ schooL With the touch of a button I was ample and instruction. MTV has taken the sultry able to hear BrownsvilleStation' s "Smokin' and suggestive radio lyric and given it arms, legs, In the Boys Room", Sweet's "Ballroom tentacles and God knows what else. In other Blitz" and "I'mNotlnLove"bylOCCjust. words, they have become the landlords of Enema before the garage door closed loudly be­ Cinema and our young people are paying the rent. hind our bronze cruiser. The radio was Christian film kings have appropriately and my remote control and my mind became obviously avoided the unrelatable combination of its backdrop. At that time of my life I music performance and scantily clad women. In didn't need preconceived video images to fact, the closest we've ever come may have been deciphera lyricist's intentions. Istilldon't. the old Stormie O'Martian aerobics videos (or was When a classic track envelopes my sur­ it the classic "Amash-Aid: The Concert"). How­ roundings, a certain mental aroma creeps ever, I feel that we're already on the verge of up from behind and returns me to the touching the serpent's tail by turning ordinary, song's point of reference. Notice mini6try-oriented artists into sleek, streamlined, the word "classic track", a term ready-for-idolatry figurines. which now relates to any song re­ Much like the bronzed televangelist (a .k.a "Two­ corded before the birth of MTV; a Take Tilden"), our most admired artists make up three letter word which often car- JOHN THOMPSON, , True News. Is alternative music actually happening large-scale in the Christian Market? 0, you're kidding! Check this out, Blonde Vinyl, only 7 months old, will have fourteen or fifteen albums released before the end of '91! They' ll soon bring us are-released Dead Artist Syndrome project Prints of Darkness and a collection/ compila­ tion of Lust Control,as well as Sincerely Paul, Acoustic Shack, Dietiphobia, Shelly Rogers and Love Life. R.EX is also not silent these days. Signed artists include Circle of Dust, Code of Ethics, and possibly Crying Out Quiet. Hot new alternative rock from Koa la-land. Some of you may have picked up an import E.P. by a group called Tall Stories a few years back. They've since changed their name to Seven Stories and signed with Colum­ bia Records. From just across the ocean, Stress Music is bringing several Kiwi (New Zealand) bands - Hunting Man, Jono Jack, and Luke Hurley to name a few. ACM Journal is unleashing their 2nd CD sampler asa perk to stimulate subscriptions. Nineteen bands fo r $5 is cool in my book, anyway. The Throes are going to tour. God voted The Choir best all around people in general. Over the Rhine is still unsigned, but since they've turned down most of the big-wig CCM labels I'm not too worried. Word has it that Warner Brothers is going to push David Mullen's first single. Mission of Mercy just released Cages Crashing, their best, darkest, crunchiest, most gothic tape to date. Within the last couple of months, they changed guitar players (now Mark Schwartzburg, Kings X guitar tech) and started recording again. If this is ever released for sale, it will be even hotter than "Cages Crashing." The Alarm's Dave Sharp released his debut solo album - very bluesy gritty Rock & Roll. Interesting lyrics too. Chagall Guevara gets my vote for best alternative band of'91. NowSparrow is going to release this debut, self titled album. One promo piece I received had the band called Chagall Guavara with . I wonder if the postscript will stick. Anybody with a few extra bucks want to come to Chicago and start a decent radio station? Our WYLL 106.7 will reportedly go "All-Talk" within 6 months. That's great, there really is a need for more talk Christian Radio, isn't there? The new artsy and moody Ocean Blue album is out. It's very cool, even better than their debut. Painted Orange is out with their first mainstream StarSong release. There could soon be literally dozens more "underground" releases avail­ able. There seems to be a renaissance in independent music lately. Hooray! Mortification's supposedly "Radical" art cover is a joke! P.S. Hi Ed! Now outon the ever extinct list is Urban Edge! Our friends from the south decided that a name and identity change was a must. They changed their name to Two Pound Planet and have stopped all sales of Hydrogen Jukebox cd's and Available this Spring cassettes. We haven't heard about any Planet tapes yet. Also included is Situation Taboo. They're in the studio hoping to use a new tape to score a big-time record deal and therefore don't want to sell anymore old demos. Such goes the demise of these bands. Oh well. The beat goes on and more on R.E.X. bands are popping up everywhere.

WlM BOLUYT, Holland, Pure Rock Report. Tuesday night and back home again. Sitting with a cup of coffee in my hand and still enjoying the bath that washed away two eight-hour boat trips and four days of the usual dirt away, my thoughts wander back to England. It was a very good festival, like the previous four I attended. But perhaps this year was even better, because I choose what I wanted to hear rather than run like Produced by a mad dog after all that's new. But choice means alotgets lost. In fact, I didn't see a whole lot of good bands and performers. Some of them were ill, like Michael Sweet of Stryper (pneumonia) and Mark Heard. Stryper had played at the Dutch Flevo Festival with Oz Fox doing lead vocals, but here Rarnald DoIllkus they decided to cancel. Mark Heard canceled the second time in a row and yes - both times ill. Peter Case, Scaterd-Few and No Laughing Matter were promised to us by the pre-festival news, but they were not there. The Electricsarea rootsy, celtic rock band from Glasgow who just released and Visions and Dreams on Full Circle Records, but like Detritus, 7th Angel and Ben Okafor, I didn't have a chance to see them. I saw Dan Donovan of Tribe of Dan but missed his performance. Dan described Tribe of Dan's cd Shook Terry Taylor up as "13 tracks of pure mooserock." Raw and raunchy, but passionate as nothing else - a great band indeed. Dave Sharp of the Alarm performed an acoustic song on the main stage from his solo album. I missed the opportu­ nity to speak with writers like Aussie Tim Winton and American Harold for Fickett. The latter wrote a critical biography of the late, great Flannery O'Connor called Images Of Grace. Never without controversy, this year's festival had seminar titles like God's Gift Of Gayness? and The Sacred Sex Life Of Adrian Plass as well as a seminar which offered a discussion between a Wingless Foe Christian and a real witch. But like Martin Evans, General Manager of Greenbelt explained about the theme Wrestling With Angels in the festival's souvenir programmme: "It's now a firm tradition that leading Christian thinkers from around the world - often from politically troubled areas - visit Productions each summer to share with us what they have found the Gospel of Jesus to mean." That's why Mike Yaconelly, Stewart Henderson and all the others were there. Speaking of seminars, Steve Scott's three lectures under the title of his new book about the arts, Crying For A Vision, were great. As was his poetry performance in The River. The Throes played a good set, though still a young band. Sam Hill released his new project Thunder and Rain and played a wonderfulset. So did Jeff Johnson (though much too short) Billy Merchandising, Advertisements Penn's BroL..er and The Violet Burning. Hope Springs Eternal stays a Artist Development & Placement promising band, sounding like a cross between Adam Again and the Seventy Sevens playing Violent Femmes songs, though they still wrestle with being Public Relations., Promotions, Graphics and staying a band. Their promo single sounds great. This Picture played most of their new worldwide release A Violent Impression. This is the best Independent MuSick for Independent Minds new band I have seen this year. Their album is something to look for! A little disappointing was Cactus World News. Too much and too little of their debut album Urban Beaches. Sounds Of Blackness was good, though I prefer black gospel without a hip-hop beat. Gary Hall and the Storm keepers did a wonderful set, playing their new single Jesus Christ (a Woodie Guthrie cover that U2 did once) which will soon be released on Wide Open To The World . Gary proved himself an amazing guitar player and his Violent Femmes cover of I Held Her In My Arms was simply fun. And now that we are talking about fun, Chagall Guevara was really fun, though a little too loud for my ears. Galactic Cowboys was a big surprise. They filled in for Slryper and did well. So it's time for another cup of coffee, and I'm still enjoying the bath I had. I listening again to the At The End Of The Pier Shaw cd by Marc Calley and Geoff Mann. Who said progressive rock is dead?

TOM STEPHENSON, Seattle, ACM Journal. Alternative music news is now changing on almost a weekly basis. In just one week, a regional compilation cd ofl4 alternative, dub-oriented Christian artists from Seattle, Vancouver and Portland was completely defined. Already over half of the artists have committed for a Spring release, including Gloria, Johnny & the Stickmen, Shattered Image, Don't Know,and Poor Old Lu. The Alternative Dance and Modern Rock formats should begin developing quickly over the next several months. Code of Ethics is setting high standards for alternative dance while others like Adagio and Tim McLaughlin will soon make their distinctive marks. Painted Orange's remarkable self-titled independent release in 1991 was tailor-made for college radio and alternative formats, however StarSong's release is more appropria te for AC/ CHR forma ts. True Tunes may still have a few copies of their original cassette. Deitiphobia is nurturing other industrial-dance and post-modern bands across the coun­ try, in addition to finishing their upcoming projects. And finally, Jeff Johnson has several upcoming projects and will be appearing in a live concert in Seattle during November. There is more information sprinkled throughout the Artist & Product Lisings section starting on Page 11 . SINCERELY PAUL

A CMJ: !think this is the first ta pe l' ve ever was suicidal or going through a time that an bu tit wouldn't be any differen t. If we could listened to where all the song titles are one or emotional injury has taken place in their life, learn to lean on God right now in the small two, three words. they do need to talk to somebody who is a plac;es, it'll help us to lean on Him if we ever RAY: Actually, that wasn't a conscious Christian and a professionaL. we would refer were to get into a big place. thing, but I had always admired a few bands them to that. So, Ithinkas you go through the ACMJ: What do you have to offer as a that had one-word titles. I looked back at the lyrics you'll kind a understand, that speaks band, and as individuals, to listeners that's album after it was released and thought, for itself. The reason for the referral is because unique to Sincerely Paul? "Wow, we actually did that a little bit!" I of some of the issues we do talk about in the SP: Well, I think the song Bear My Soul is don't think Jim did that on purpose, that's lyrics itself. And, we have their permission. basically what were trying to offer. I don't just the way it turned out to be. ACMJ: Is that something you work into want to convey that every album we're going ACMJ: Saving everything you have to say your live shows? to come across the same way, because we've for the song itself? RAY: Definitely. We make ourselves had people already think that we' re com­ RAY: There you go. available after every show. And wehandlea pletely like a one-message band. I think that JIM: There have been times I wanted them church-show differently than a secular club God leads us to write songs of all different tobe a little longer, and they're like, "No, just show. Nevertheless, we certainly don't types, things just happened to come around cut it down, cut it down!" believe that just because we're playing for this way at this certain season of our life. I ACMJ: The songs are really rich, very Christians, that means they have their life in think whatwe have to offer is the fact that we complex ... you're trying to convey a message order. There's no one ou t there who doesn't want to be able to steer issues in peoples lives even with the style that you're using? need someone that they can relate to that - that they can be able to bear our burdens SP: A lot of us can speak on that. We're looks and talks and acts the same way that with one another, talk to one another, and pulling together a lot of different influences. they do ... that maybe has felt the same things fellowship with one another - in regard to At times we're pulling those influences into a that they' ve felt. So we always (always is w ha tever they maybe going through in their four-minute song, sometimes we're pulling impera tive) try to make ourselves available lives. Because, as far as the music that wedo themintoaseven-minutesong,butwe'rejust to give some type of invitation to at least and the people that we see at our shows, this trying to be original, and I guess the sound come back and talk to us afterwards. We're dark music scene its very depressing. It's very you hear is what comes from our different interested in what's going on with them. And, hopeless. There's a lot of nega ti ve feelings in influences. of course, we believe Jesus is the one true it. So for a lot of people, who are very ACMJ: N otthat you're trying to sound like · answer. secluded, they'll need to be able to talk and anyone, just doing what comes naturally, ACMJ: You're playing a variety of venues open up to someone, and experience God's and that's what you're getting. Are these now? healing. I think that's probably the biggest songs written from personal experiences, or SP: Definitely! We laugh because just last theme right now, and whatwe feel God lead­ are they things that you've seen around you? Saturday night we found ourselves in almost ing us to do. There's a lot of desperation. a poolhall, a bar basically, and we were ACMJ: Now, you put out a number of JIM: Some is from personal experience, playing with some non-Christian bands. So things on your own. Do you feel that you and some of it is from talking with other yeah, we playa variety. We've had weren't getting the penetration of the market people that have been throughcircurnstances. response ... even before the album came going it alone. And why Blonde Vinyl Records, So I can bring ou t the realness, I believe, of the out...and people that have seen us outside the what led you towards them? lyrics and what the message is trying to say. state respond to us through our post office SP: We're going to be really honest with mailing on our own, or anything like that. RA Y: Mike, our keyboard player, made a box saying, you know, gosh, the lyrics have you. We negotia ted over the past few years Also, Blonde Vinyl is doing really well in comment in a radio interview tha t we are not really touched me ... the lyrics have done this, with a few different labels, but we figured as getting the cd's out to all the radio a band for Christians nor a band for non­ the music has really ... thank you, we really long as no one was willing to sign us, we were stations ... calling radio stations around the Christians, we're just a band that wants to heard what you had to say. And that was going to go ahead and putout material on our country. He's also getting us distribution in address everyone that may be hurting or may before the album was out. So, we know that own. We were going to make it available as the U.K. and Canada. So, as far as I can tell be victimized. But, in a newspaper article last something is going right. And we feel that something for fans and something just to give (and I've worked in a bookstore for ten years week, we made it very clear that we are all five God is using it, touching peoples lives where to people to take home with them, with the now), there's tons of independent stuff there born-again Christians. That certainly isn't they're at - whether it be someone that's lyrics on them and our phone number on it. that never reaches a lot of kids. It's just a lot going to limit us ( I hope) to playing in victimized or abused or somebody that, like Just before we signed the Blonde Vinyl deal, easier for them to get it... moreaccessible that churches and church socials. one of the songs thats on there, might be we negotiated with two or three labels, and way. ACMJ : Your backgrounds as Christians, having a problem with wanting towaituntil Blonde Vinyl simply had the best deal. It's a ACMJ: What sort of advice do you have for then, have influenced the project? marriage for sex. Those types of issues. So, very comfortable thing being right here in other artists that are in the same place you SP: Oh,definitely! I think it's going tobe we've had good response. Orange County. We've played withL.5.U.a were two or three years ago? likethatforever. I hope you can tell thatin the ACMJ: You wantto pursue this full-time? number of times .. . Breakfastwith Amy. We SP: Work hard to define your craft. Don't lyrics. SP: We don't know. The only thing that just know a lot of those people. It was just a compromise spiritually. Don' tcompromise ACMJ: What led you to print the number we've ever s a id is wou ld n' t it be grea t if we very comfortable thing, and it was a great financially. Don't compromise physically. for the help line, and why this one? didn't have 40-hour per week jobs, then we deal. Once you've done that, you' re just another JIM: I felt that it would be a good idea; cou ld devote 100% of our a tten tion to music ACMJ: So,do you feel that's going to make commodity. Y ou'lllose your originality and should the lyrics stir u p anything inside that for the Lord, through the talents He's given a difference for you as far as distribution and you'll lose your drive. Even your blessings people might need ...as far as feeling or w ha t­ us. If He ever decides to do that, we hope that reaching a much wider audience than going fromGod. ever it means in their life ... we want to be able we can just support ourselves, or families. it alone? ACMJ: SO, all or nothing? to provide something or someone that they Noneof us are married atthis time. We hope MIKE: I don't think there's any question RAY: I might add that in the course of a could talk to if the need wasthatgreat. We're that one day we can do that. We definitely tha t Spectra's National Distribution is going three or four years, we became discouraged not sure who's going to get our album, but we open ourselves up for a lot more attack or to help in getting [product] into more kids quite a few times. Especially... as you get a believe if there was someone ou t there tha t persecution or whatever from more angles, hands than it would be ever if we tried to a little bit older. Well, none of us are terribly

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Christian radio in m.y toW"n is best described as: dedicated Fewers in Tacoma, WA. KOKFor WAYJ Irrelevant Boring A solid hour of concert footage and Irrelevant and Boring Other ------interviews. A must for any enthusiast. I particularly enjoyed the artists indicated beloW" featured on your 2nd COInpilation CD: Deitiphobia Vague Robert Deeble XI"'IIC CASSE'I"'I'ES old, but even through the early twenties, Hidden Faces getting out of the teen years and things, we EricH. got discouraged many times. But I think we Go Vertical allowed ourselves to be encouraged by the Tim McLaughlin Circa 1983-84. These are the gems Holy Spirit Himself. We let God encourage The Prim.aries us. And that's what motivated us to continue, Black Carnation we were always encouraged with something Stinging Rain that carved a path for the ACM scene. else, to keep on keeping on. On our own Mental Destruction strength, we probably would have given up. Harborfield Gathering I don' tthink that if another band didn't really One Fine Day This independent flashback includes feel that God was doing something with Blue Trapeze them ... I mean, why fool yourself? You're Martyr probably better off to just twang your guitar, ElirnHall the two song demo that caught Uncle and write some songs for your friends and Chris Taylor & Windows goof around. But, if you take it seriously, Geoff Mann you've got to feel that God's behind you, The Biscaynes Terry's eye as well as five cuts from otherw-ise it seems just unbearable without Him. Artists or styles to consider for ACMJ: Where do you see yourselves ACM's 3rd Annual CD: their never released 1983 debut. heading from here? You mentioned that you're doing some club shows, and you're getting product out to the college market too. Another must for collectors. Where do you go from here? SP: We certainly don't know where our next release will be from. We have a very good relationship with Blonde Vinyl. But, we've been up front with them - and obviously you must be thinking in your head, they have secular management. We've SHIRTS & STUFF intended this album to definitely put out what we feel God has given us to minis ter IntervieW"s W"ith the folloW"ing about, and to put it out there. We're just artists W"ould also interest m.e: going to continue to keep pushing forward. Large screen Tee's by the best Thesecu1ar management is taking the album and shopping it with majorlabels. We're just as serious about what we're doing as any In the business. Buttons and secular band you'd hear on radio up there. So, we're going to let her continue to push it, and we're going to play and put ourselves in I'd like to read m.ore articles on Stickers still available. Posters frontofalotofpeople. We're goingtodoour the subjects listed beloW": thing, and let her do her thing. We really don't know where the next step will be, but In time for ' the Holiday rush. we're continuing forward. ACMJ: Tell me more about the title of the disc, Grieve. SP: First of all, grieving is not really a negative thing in how we feel. Because of what we've dealt with ... what I've dealt with personally in my life, the healing that God has bought me through, and the people that I've talked to when I wrote these songs ...grieving is usually a necessary process to grieve ou t all And finally, I am. interested or those hurts to God. To stop being in denial involved in the folloW"ing areas: and let Him be able to heal you from the Alternative Radio inside out. Actually, it'sa very positive title. Coffee Houses or Drop-ins Inviting people to stop being in denial, and to Christian Clubs or Dances come out and let God see the real you. To heal Concert Staging or Promotion you from the inside out, that's basically what Recording or Performing was behind the title of Grieve. We make a Music Retailing or Mail-order point to make ourselves available. We like Theatre or Art people to come up and see if we really can Indep't Artist Development relate, you know, just to communicate with Cassette or Video Duplication us more. Instead of just accepting us just on Video Filming or Editing a stage, and singing to them six feet higher VJ, OJ, or other Program Host than they are, and then going behind a black Songwriting & Copywrites curtain to never see them again. I think Poetry or Drama tic Reading we'd like for them to see who we really are, Periodicals or Publishing by coming up and checking us out for Lighting & Sound Reinforcement themselves. Event Publicity ACMJ: Anything else you'd like to add before we finish? MIKE: Feel free to write us at any time too. Mail to: ACM Journal If you include your address in there, we'll Annual Survey personally answer the letter. I mean, we POBox 1273 don'thavea secret secretary that does that for Sumner, WA 98390 us. Wedothatourselves. T."...... ~--- --;,---=----::---======---'=

radio programs anymore. This is not coming ... it's just on the horizon. going to happen anymore. Theywon't ACMJ: I've given a great deal of support tha t stuff. And we're looking thought of the limitless possibilities if at the probability that in just a few you could digltally broadcast over KOKF years, those 40 to 60 years of age will shortwave. You could literally cover want c1assic rock, album rock, hit music an entire nation's market from one sounds, and oldies from the 60' sand source. And being fairly central like We began our Interview with Greg And the attitudes, the life-styles, the 70's. That's what they are going to you are, you could easily cover central Griffin from KOKFin Issue 6. We've way people conduct themselves, the want on the radio. It's not going to be Canada. continued where we left off. way they behave .... are so different easy listening & adult contemporary KOKF: That's an incredible idea! I'm now. If radio programmers are not for the older folks. For the younger going to have to kick that one around. Continued from Issue 6 ... tuned into what's happening in that folks, we see it progressing to the ACMJ: Part of the problem is that marketplace, I don't think they are contemporary hit music genre. That's there is no market because there is no KOKF: ... in the same token, when going to achieve the kind of penetra­ where we've got to be if we really want perceived market. The people that are you look at young, mobile, above tion they must achieve in mainstream. to be evangelistic. there don't even know that the music average income, white collar workers, If you really want to evangelize, then ACMJ: Have you given any thought exists, so they're not going to ask for it, Oklahoma City is 206% of the national you have to lookatthe kinds of things, at all about... and I don't know if there so no one is going to play it for them, so average. That accounts for almost that KOKF has looked at. Last year, are FCC regulations to prohibit record companies have no market for 40% of our total population. These Oklahoma City dropped its last re­ it... having a short-wave broadcast of their product... no one knows it exists. people are hip, they're going to be maining FM easy listening radio your station that could be picked across KOKF: That's exactly right. Wedid rocking and rolling. That's one of the station ... gone. According to George the country, as well as Canada and a study a while back with Mardell's, problems, a lot of people want a Barnum, research indicates that the Mexico. which is the leading Christian music panacea. We'll do this, and it will work character and make-up of the baby­ KOKF: That's a new idea. We have retailer here in Oklahoma City. They everywhere. I've heard that forever, boomers and baby-busters is not (even never even talked about such an idea are regional and have stuff all over the and it used to work back in the 60's. among those who are Christians) at this point... to go shortwave. We general area, but they have six stores Well, we're not in the 60's anymore. going to support the paid religious know digital audio broadcasting is herein Oklahoma City. Wesatdown with their people at the different stores, specific situation. It may relate to the and talked with their national buyer song you're going into, or it m ay not. looking at the profile of music they're The point is tha t, for a m ainstream selling. If y ou know about the music secular listener, you're goin g along tha t's selling, u su ally praise and wor­ listening to this thing, and w hatever sh ip is number on e b y a mile. A s far as we say, you 're goin g to h ang in there gen era l ca tegories go, it brea ks down with u s, becau se there's a good beat like that. H ere in O klahoma C ity, and you know the songs. You're not almost 60% of their total music sales in b eing preach ed a t. the last three yea rs have been in rock, ACMJ: Wha t most kids are getting, heavy metal, and what we' d probably though, is just the opposite of that. call chr. It's totally upside down KOKF: It's very important that it be compared to their stores everywhere handled that way. We also look at else. So, there is an impact here. what we call programmed learning or Albums have been available to the attitude action learning. We use a secular market at Sound Wherehouse pattern of messages that support each and some of these other places. They've other and support what the has found out who we were and they call to say. We are number one in the us about stocking extra copies of stuff market in total daily time spent listen­ because people go in there. Somanyof ing by teens, and we're number two in our listeners never set foot in a Chris­ 18 - 34. We have a very long listening tian bookstore and would wonder why day with our target listeners, so we use you go to a bookstore to buy that to good advantage. Forexample, music ... would have no idea, no avoiding pre-marital sex if we address I concept of that. One of the wild stories tha t p articular subject - always a hot is when White Cross first hit with their topic. Some o f the target songs will v ery first album on Pure Metal, Sound lookat aguysayingn otoagirl,or agirl Wherehouse started getting people in saying no to a guy, or dealing with wanting it. They tried to find out resisting peer pressure · to perform where they were hearing it, so th ey sexually... things like that. Forexample, called us and we talked and they started Temptation b y Pain ted O range, OSSI s tocking White C ross. In a store like Fantasy by the D ynamic Twins, True tha t, they d ep end on fast moving Love A lways by Steve Arrington,Abou t pro duct, they're not going to stock Sex by Jacob's Trouble . We' ve g ot anything that moves slow. Wechecked some oldie recurrent tracks, If You some of their stores, and they were Don't Like It by Judson Spence, Much stocking as many as twelve copies of Too Much by Talking Drums, and White Cross' original album. Thatwas Young Boy, Young Girl by really unusual. Usually tpey've four and Rebecca Sparks. or five ... six in a slot. But they found out ACMJ: That's quite a line-up of songs that when we get on something and its right there. hot, they'd better get stocked up, KOKF: You wouldn't hear them all because people are going to buy it. back to back; they'd be programmed There's been a tremendous impact as systematically throughout the period far as musical sales are concerned. of say, three to four hours... realizing You've probably heard these stories. that we have a long listenership with We have a wonderful time with some these folks. You might hear one piece of these record labels, because we're of scripture that would address lust or not playing what they want us to play. a Godly kind oflove going into one of ACMJ: Kevin Allison's paper The those songs. Pure Rock Report has mentioned that ACMJ: Have you ever gone as far before... about labels complaining their back as Kaja? singles are passed over for the other KOKF: Kaja is still very big. We still ere? albUlTI cuts. get a lot of requests for Kaja. That's a KOKF: (Greg laughs) Reunion told timeless, classic sound. Eventually we us, well... if you're not going to play see that coming out in a lot of kids that what we release, just don't play any we talk with, because really God Reunion product at all. (Everyone watchesoverasweperformit.. .itwon't laughs) turn void. It works; it'll pile up in a ACMJ: Then they won't pick up persons life and change their attitude, Renee Garcia's album, or really work and eventually for a lotofkidsitchanges with it, because it's too aggressive. their actions. \ It's constantly there. That's the impression I'm getting. Those are a couple of very important KOKF: That is really the old ostrich things One of the reasons we're with his head in the sand. effective is because of the things we ACMJ: Well, is there anything else don't do and don't say. And, another you can think of? A closing note to reason why we're so effective is due to summarize where things are going what we do say and how we say it... and from here? how we program it. KOKF: Something I haven't ACMJ: What you are, then, is an mentioned is the way we present the alternative to the standard radio music ... I think it is very important. fare ... and what you're not is just the You can have all the right cuts, butthey standard Christian radio station that have to be presented right. One thing heaves outa lot of good feelings, happy that bothered me when I heard tapes talk and sleepy music. of Christian hit radio stations, they still KOKF: We're there with you. You had their little five minute teaching can trust us. Everybody that we deal things, like Larry Burkett, in the with explicitly trusts us. It's really format. They had their scripture verse interesting, because we're almost of the hour. .. their power verse of the unclassifiable, right now. We're in hour. Iftheir target is the Christian kid, between. We're not really a Christian that's fine. That's nice. But they have station, and we're not really a secular all of this Christian happy talk. We station. For the Birch ratings ... we don'thavethat... we'remusic. Wedon't explained everything ... wrote out have those special programs, and we exactly what we're doing and who we don't have a lot of what 1 call Christian are. When we got their mailing back a happy talk. We present it as a hit music year-and-a-half ago, they'd radio station. Except for the heavy reclassified us as mainstream chr. metal. The metal is delivered as an They'd dropped any connotations of underground pilot radio station. us as being religious or Christian. There's no hype, no jingle.. .it's very Though we are very much Christ­ laid back, just music... But apart from oriented; we don't ever say we are that, our format is pretty much hyped, Christians on the air. But we are high-energy top 40 and delivered as Christianity inaction on the air. Jesus such. We present a scripture that may didn't go around the place saying, "I a pply to a human n eed, s u ch as am the Messiah, I'm speaking up on somebody s truggling with lust. We'll the grass hill at seven. Be there." That's grab a piece of scripture from the NIV not the way He worked, tha t's not the or Living Bible and lay that into the way we work on the air. We have intro of a song. stationary we use for mailing to ACMJ: It's more applied churches and other people that Christianity then... more relevant. identifies us as a Christian radio sta­ K O KF: We let the Word speak for tion, and admit to that whole­ itself. We're not giving opinions; heartedly, but on the air where we are saying, well here's how my day went. fishing on that mainstream pond, so to W e're not saying an y thing other than sp eak, w e never ever claim to be a w h a t the Word says a pplied to a Christian radio station. 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ACMJ: What reasoning had you behind the name, Dig as far as colleges are concerned. Two of us are in college and Hay Zoose? What's the background on that? . in that mindset. ACMJ: Did you limit your search, as DHZ: Well, the way it happened ... the way we named the ACMJ: Is finding a good booking agent about as hard far as labels go, to the Christian music industry, or did group is we'd been trying to figure out a name for, well, (and with just as many strings attached) as finding a good you venture outside of that? three or four weeks. We were just trying to think of names, record label? DHZ: We really didn't. We decided collectively that we period. The group hadn't really been a group at that time. DHZ: Yeah ... pretty much. You can only go on what wanted to sign to a Christian label. We really didn't look Then two weeks after the group had started, Phil and I, and people say, and it's hard to trust everybody, especially the outside at all. a friend of mine, Pat, were sitting around in my room. We people you can't see. We end up talking to a lot of them on ACMJ: What sort of support do you see ahead, as far as were just doodling around, and drawing and stuff. We were the phone, because we don't live on the coast either way. Christian radio is concerned? Do you see much there? trying to think of a name for the band and we couldn't come ACMJ: What led you to sign with Brainstorm? DHZ: I think I do. I think we could pull some support up with anything. We had just gotten done saying, 'Well, DHZ: Well ... we just felt Brainstorm had a lot of integrity there. Because the album is diversified. It has completely we know that when we hear something we like. It'll just hit before us, as far as artists that had been on the label. We felt alternative stuff, and it also has a commercial edge to some us, and that'll be it." So we just slipped into Spanish accents that the label was artist-oriented ... that they cared about of the songs - because that's another influence. I hate to say or something, being silly, you know ... The Monty Python what the artists thought. And they promised they d order that all music played on the radio is commercial, but for the thing .. .I guess. All of sudden, I said, " You know? I really pizza every night that we were in the studio, so of course, most part it is. On the college field, on college radio stations dig Jesus!" Phil looked at me, I looked at him, and I said, that was the clincher right there. That pretty much iced the and such, we should be able to pull some weight, (laugh) "that's it." That's just how it was. deal for us. Yep. Pizza, and a television. we'll see. ACMJ: The songs are very diverse. Some have a thrash ACMJ: What is there that you would really like people to ACMJ: Give me an idea of your background, just as an and funk feel; one even has Led Zeppelin overtones. Is this know about Dig Hay Zoose? idividual. Howd you end up where you are now? what we can we expect from you long term, or are you trying DHZ: Well, what I'd really like people to know about Dig DHZ: Just me, Dave? to find your direction musically? Hay Zoose is that three of the members are single and ACMJ: Just you, Dave. DHZ: Musically, I think we'll always remain diverse, just currently looking for very. ..well actually, (another band DHZ: I've just always been inspired to play music. becauSe the band is that way. We've all played in different member says in the background, "I'm happy.") .. .he's decided one day I was going to play guitar, and I had no bands. I played with my family, who had a country gospel happy... so, two of the members are currently looking for money or anything... this is an old story. But, I had no group for 8 years.. .I played with them for a long time. That's beautiful women. money. I prayed that night that I could get a guitar... that I how I learned, baskaIly, to play bass. Tfiere are eight kids ACMJ: Do you need photos? could run into one. And the next Sunday, a lady at church in our family, and my brothers and sisters all listen to DHZ: Well, we're not really a groupie type band. Actu­ offered me one. So from then on, I pretty much set my mind different gs. So I got a good dose of every­ ally, we're really nice guys. We know how it is to be hurt. that this is what . . is in my life was ...to play guitar thing. Phil, going to college and alI, just always , we wouldn't want groupies, 'cause then that would be for some so of band in e future. So I started playing and liked to listen to different music... different mem­ just kind of a sadness thing. We're all young guys. I guess wound up' D.O.N.asa tband.Idon'tknowifyou've bers bringing different elements of things. That's that's e serious thing that I'd like to get across to people­ eve ear of them, it was a hard-<:ore punk band. We pretty much how we became diverse. I would say the youth of the band. Just the fact that, even though we're played a lOt of shows with a band called Hot Pink Turtle. I'd we're gOling to remain that and probably young, we" e been through a lot individually and together. never really ventured into that field of music much, butthere ~... but it will have direction. Sometimes Maybe that mes across in the lyrics and music, I don't was so much more power in the alternative metal scene ... so we dOn't feel like we have direction. But as we know. I feel . e alot of the time, when y. go p ces much appeal to draw more people to listen to what you have grow tigh. as a musical unit, things will con­ you're working ith someone, and they ppen to be twice to say. That's my turning point. From that point on, I tinue to be diverse and probably get stranger, if your age, they tend to underrate your ability - creatively and decided that I definitely wasn't cut out to play hard-core an~ I imagine. musically. We'd like to prove some people wrong. anymore ... that it was a dying trend. I dropped out, and ACMJ: So, how wOuld you describes your­ ACMJ: Ustening to our music, it ds like you grew eventually jOined Dig Hay Zoose. This is where lyrically, I seMi!s as a band? How would you describe the up in inner-city New York or the rougher areas in L.A., but want it to be. And, I think that's the way it is for everyone styles that you have on this disc? you'reinKansasOty. What is therein the Midwest that has in the band. DHZ: Some have called it musical vomit, just shaped and molded you to be where you are? ACMJ: Do you feel you get a lot of support from the because there's a little bit of everything that DHZ: WelI,just the fact that we're different. We'renotlike Christian cOmn'llmity there, as far as the shows you do, and you've eaten that day. For a while, we were the mainstream people here. I think we'd be much more the way you're trying to reach kids. Do you feel there's a lot calling it musical gumbo, because there's a little suited to live on the coast. .. when we were there, we liked it of support there, or are there still a few people who wonder bit of everything. If I were going to call it and everything. But as far as our looks, our attitude and about what you're doing? anything, r d just call it music that everyone things, well... thereisa lot of bias and racism here that people DHZ: Here in Missouri, there are a lot of leery churches. should like. tend to underrate. For instance, I have a friend who's black There are a lot of people that'll say they want to start ACMJ: Have your families been supportive of and I have long hair. When we go to the mall, we automati­ something with heavy metal to draw a crowd, but they your music direction? ca1ly get stares and we've been run off the road before and really don't know anything about what's going on. It might DHZ: Yeah, my family is really supportive. thingslikethat. I mean, that doesn't happen in L.A., and that be the same way there. We get that alot. As far as support They're really happy with the way things biwe ~t ~ in New York. Irs just a totally different from churches, really the churches in Missouri don't want to been happening. My MOIn reaI1y likaJ it.a lot, ~'bttt~~ and ybe in scarier ways. support the movement alot. There are a few. We're part of which surprises me, And my Dad has heard just ACMJ: So, there are elements of racism and that sort of an organization that gives a line of contact from all the bands a little bit, but he's reQl supportive. He's coming thing. That's coming through in the songs, that's an influ­ that play in Kansas City ( bands, rap bands, to the show Friday, as a matter of fact, but it's a ence? metal bands, whatever they are), and through that we draw thing where they say, "it may not be the type of DHZ: Yeah. In fact, we're working on material for the support from each other. But, from the churches really ... no. show that we like to listen to but we're glad that nextaIbum and thafssomething that's really been heavy on Theyre really not interested in changing their mindset. you guys are doing what you're doing." But, as our hearts lately. It may sound really cliche, but I think the ACMJ: What do you think the church could do to help far as parents of the band, for the most part way we handle it will be different than the way most people provide you with avenues and ways of reaching kids that they've all been supportive. talk about it. ' really aren't interested in the church? Alot of kids don't feel ACMJ: What is something unique that your ACMJ: Where do you think the church needs to be in all that church has anything to offer them, and obviously you band has to offer? of this? do, or you wouldn't be doing what you're doing. What is it DHZ: The things that strike me about the band DHZ: Around here, the KKK seems to think that their the church can do to help you (and other bands) to convince is just the fact that nothing that we put on the way is righteous and that it's the Christian way, which is kids that the church could really have something valid to record,. .. none of it's fluff. And] find that with a definitely wrong. Alot of the churches are actually guilty of offer them? lot of bands, both Christian and non-Christian racism, especially in the middle of the bible belt and in the DHZ: I think they should step out and give it a chance. I bands, there's a lot of fluff out there. Doing things Midwest. It may not be so at the churches that we go to, I don't think they should keep their mindset when they really for doing things' sake. We take what we're doing don't know. y church has been really open and support­ don't know what they're talking about a lot of times ... the seriously, ... but not so seriously that we can't take iveofthc hin that I've done. Even though I have long hair, mindset that rock 'n roll is evil ... and since it's evil we can't criticism. We create what we create because it's it's cool ith them. Which is kind of a surprise, because alot use it, its a dead tool... its Satan's tool... whatever they believe. art. Three of us in the band paint or draw. We're of people are older than 60, ... there's alot of older people Telling kids that who are into Iron Maiden doesn't do them involved in other things besides music, just all there. As far the church's position on racism, the people any good. That doesn't get them interested at all. If the kinds of different art - whether it be painting, around here JUst em to be in the mindset that black churches could unite in the area, getting over their denomi­ acting, or whatever. people... and Mexicans... and people with long hair ... are bad. national differences, we could unite and rent a theatre for a ACMJ: Music, then, is jllst one outlet for that? I think that churches need to wake up and smell the coffee night. Have bands play, have pastors there and have the DHZ: Yeah, everything just kinda channels concerning that and alot of other things. Word of God be spoken ... and preach between shows. The e around, and circles into our music as far as the ACMJ: What dIrection do you see the band taking in the would be power in something like that. But... visual and everything. And on stage and live, coming months? ACMJ: You don't see that happening right now? people get more of a feel for what we do visually DHZ: I see the next album being longer, and it being a DHZ: Honestly, no. I hate to be cynical about it, b and what we're about that way too .. . more involved process. I hope we get a lot more time to honestly I don't. Because traditional religion has ACMJ: Is this your first go at it, or have you released some record it. It seemed like a lot of decisions were made on the planted here in Missouri. It's really hard to get out of it. You things on your own before? spur of the moment. We signed the contract with them just have to step out of it to take a look at it and see the truth, and DHZ: As far as albums, I think this is really it for all of a week-a-haIf before we flew out there to record the album. the truth is - what really matters? Does the length of your uS ... some of the other guys have been in a thrash band and It was all just really kind of weird. As far as musical hair matter? Or, is that something to draw a denominational released a demo, and the country band] was in recorded two direction, I think I'm going to hand the phone over to Dave, difference. albums, but they were for a pretty small label, so it wasn't cause this is something that he wants to talk about. ACMJ: What got you to the point where you are now? anything extravagant. As far as any big label kind of thing, DHZ: The way I see it, what we're doing right now is What's made you want to pursue this? where it's getting distribution and we don't have to hand it trying to improve upon what we've already done... because DHZ: I started playing when I was seven years old, and to people ourselves, this is it for all of us. we were rushed a bit. .. because we didn't get to make all the took lessons until I was 13 or 14. That's the very beginning ACMJ: Ustening to the disc, it obviously is extremely decisions ourselves. We are really pushing to put more of the musical ties; I never learned how to Sight-read, well-suited for mainstream college radio. What are you work and thought into what we do, .. .to put our whole effort because I'd pick it up by ear. The teacher would play what going to do to get your music into that market? and soul into what we've done already. It's a learning I was supposed to play, and I'd pick it up by ear. I never DHZ: Wftve been discussing that, actually, and wftre not experience. You know, you're done with the first album and learned. My next door neighbor all through school, Dion really sure how to gQ about doing that. I know that our you look at it and say, "well, could I have done better?" Tyler, plays bass for a band called Hot Pink Turtle, which' s manager has been talking it up as far as that is concerned. That's what we intend to do with the next one. Musica1ly, also an alternative funk band around here. The label definitely wants to do something there. but its I don't know. Just whatever styles influence us at the time. He's my best friend, and we started out in the very first band almost as if there's a vortexx of knowledge that nobody ACMl: What has influenced you up 'til now? we played together. I played drums, because I played kno~s exactly how to go about it. It's like nobody's an­ DHZ: I guess each member has been influenced by drums in school for the marching band and stuff like that. sw~ the question of how to go about coUege disbibution. different things, but mainly bands along the lines of Jane's When I started, it just got in my blood and I couldn't help it Wtt:a like to say the label's going to send it to every college Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Fishbone, Crowded anymore. I wanted to play music. And I've always sang, to on the map, but you know thafs wishing for a lot... House - basically anything that is on the alternative edge. myself, in church and in choir. I was a vocal major for a year ACMJ: Are you thinking along the line of doing some When were talking at Cornerstone, the thing we find about at Northwest Missouri State. But, I just never got around to shows at universities? any of the conclusions drawn between us and Scaterd Few singing in a band until after D.ON. broke up. I sang for this DHZ: Actually, that's kind of a goal for us. One of the is that we both derive our musical sound the same way - gothic, metal band called Chancelis... and it turned out things about booking agents, we'relooking at connecti whateverJ.n£luences us, we p-uUn Ollr music. our drum er played fo ======... ======~ ... ~,. \. . -­

OtanceIis, too. And we needed a bass player, so Bill joined up: .. so there's three of our members there. The guitarist for that band was in control of the music, and we didn't mind, because it was like his band. But we decided that Bill , myself, and Jimmy (which is three-fourths of Dig Hay Zoose) ... we didn't want to play that gothic metal thing. We prayed about it and had a meeting, and went our separate ways. We were looking for a guitarist and Dave was there. So we called Dave and started jammin' together... that's how we got bands, together. But that's kinda how everything fell together. We and all were all intertwined in different bands. that kind of ACMJ: Do you have any advice for a band just getting thing. Itdoesn't started? really bother me, DHZ: Yeah, the biggest thing is: do not pick one little style because I know that's and then try to fit your lifestyle into that. I've seen so many just some people's way bands die because they say, "we're going to be a heavy metal of dealing with things? band now" or, "we're going to be a ... ," you know. They pick ACMJ: Are you pretty a style and they try to wedge everything into this little thing. available to do shows, if some­ Bands should write from where they come from ... there're so one were interested in having you many Jesus saves songs, and so many suicide songs, and come do something? there're so many abortion songs - just forget about that stuff, DHZ: We're ready to go; we're its all been covered before. Write about your life. Write chomping at the bit, really! about what you're going through, and what's God helping ACMJ: What would it take to make that you get through. That's what we do. Also, write with work? emotion and write with your heart. Don't limit yourself. DHZ: We're looking at different booking Don'tthink that you can't, ... don't ever say, "oh we can't play agents and all. After a while, hopefully we'll that, it's too weird," or "it doesn't say Jesus every fourth have things set up. Our biggest problem is that word." we're all totally broke. Seriously, we are totally . ACMJ: You were saying the songs are basically an and completely broke! And the problem would extension of your own life, things you've struggled with. Is probably be transportation. We've got vehicles, there anything in the songs that are really near and dear to but it's going to be hard. We could never do a show your heart? that doesn't have a P.A., because we don't have a P.A. DHZ: I'd really have to think through the whole thing. and have nothing to carry it in. But, if everything There's a lot of stuff that really hits homes at different times works out, then yeah - we're ready to go. We'll go play in my life. When you:re faced with somebody who doesn't anywhere. Its kind of a cliche line: it takes money to really look at the whole picture or, like a lot of my friends at make money. We just have absolutely nothing, no school, don't believe in any God at all. Or they're following mikes, no P.A. But I think once we get things rolling, it'll Buddhism, into ystals, and that stuff. [The songs] all just be a lot easier to come play different places. come into place at different times of your life. Like when ACMJ: SO, you' re taking a class in college now? you get really depressed and you're thinking, "man, I just DHZ: I'm taking a biology class right now. It'sa five hour really messed up, I should have done this, and I haven't class. done that, and I've put things off, and put this off." That's ACMJ: What else do you do? what Struggle Fish is all about. You keep procrastinating DHZ: I work too. We all work. about stuff you have to do and haven't done. Different songs ACMJ: What type of jobs do you all have? mean different things to me at different times in my life. DHZ: I work at Citibank. ..visa and Mastercard. Dave ACMJ: So, its an ongoing thing for you? works at Hallmark full-time. He works nightshift. Bill DHZ: Yeah, they change. Think About It and Struggle Fish works with his Dad; his Dad's in construction. Jimmy'll be are closer to me (because I wrote them) lyrically. But when working here pretty soon; he's gonna have two jobs. He's Bill writes, it's just as close to me ... and when Dave writes. got a wife and kid. Jimmy's 22 and he has an almost 2 year We write together, and we think a lot a like. It just fits old son, Ashton. He's got quite a bit of responSibility. together, and we all feed off of our own music - it really Everybody else is pretty much freed up to go, whenever expresses how we feel. we can. Jim has talked about it with his wife and ACMJ: Do you... you mentioned that a lot of the people everything is working out as far as I know. around you don't really feel that church has much to offer ACMJ: Is this something you would like to pursue them, and obviously you do. How do you, I mean, outside full-time then? of the music, how do you go about convincing them that it DHZ: Definitely. I'd love to do this full-time. Really is valid? would. And I think we have a lot of potential to cross DHZ: First of all, you have to get rid of alot of the over to do the secular market, the way things are stereotypes that people have created. Just drop the thought going. That's what I really hope to do ... to cross over that, when you become a Christian, you heco e this sepa­ into the secular market. It's the people who are not rate society. When you become a Christian, G has made Christians who need to hear what we have to say. you a certain way, to serve a certain purpose. If you go ACMJ: And, you're still trying to figure out changing your personality and where you're at and all your the best way to take your music into the college friends, then you're defeating His purpose for you. There's mainstream.. no reason why you should change your sense humor, DHZ: Exactly. What Bill was talking your personality, the way you work. Just follow is rules about. We're still working to see what we and do what He wants you to do. Peop&! JUSt 'ss how can do. But, it'll all come m time We'll much freedom there is in Christianity, because our sins are all work it out... just keep It.m prayer. forgiven. It's not t . thing where you have to stress out. Things'll work. My roam testimony Everybody is going to mess up. All we have to do is go to of my life is the way God has Him and say, "God I'm sorry, please forgive me." Jesus loves worked through this band. We've you so much that He does. I'm not. trying to say that you been together barely a year, become a Christian and you're okay and you can do the but we already recorded an same things you did. Because, when you really find out how album. It's just amazing great Christianity is, things change in your life. You don't how He works! I don' t really care about things you used to care about, and stuff that understand some- you would never even consider doing before, now it's just times, He really part of your normal daily thing. But, I think the biggest thing baffles me. is to break the stereotypes. .. that when you become a Chris­ But I know tian, you have to do this ... you have to do this, you have to do it' s this, you can't do this and you can't do this. Instead of a Him. constricting thing, it has to be a freeing thing. ACMJ: Do you find people trying to put you into molds still? DHZ: Well, I think people do that just to help themselves ... process the information, you know? You put something in a category so its easier to deal with. You don't have to get into all the details. But yeah, some- times you catch people thinking that's just one of those rock · SEVEN DIFFERENT PATHS OF MUSIC THAT LEAD To ONE SIMPLE MESSAGE.

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6B Sunnyside HARBORFIELD GATHERING .... Pa INTERFACE ...... ~". " Belgium indept Devonshire Road Yeslerday's Reason, EP Singl., Memories PO Box 1573 Liverpool l8 3TD indep1. 1991. Embryo Arts. Lancasler, PA 17603 7158 Linden Road Single, Think Abouf It FRESH CLAIM ...... England THE lONELY NOW ...... Macungie, PA 18062 Embryo Arts. Odd One Ouf Captive 2nd ACII Compl/af/on The primary distinclion batween BOOK OF MARTYRS , New Zealand COMMON BOND (disbanded) .. ... Ca Planklon, 1987. JACOB'S TROUBLE ." ...... Georgia Narrowpath, 1986. College Progressive and Alternative, Calharsis unfifled No Claims Bonus HE WEPT ...... Inlo Summer Original Tensions since bolh are likely to be found in indep't, 1988. indep'l, 1983. Planklon, 1988. new album scheduled Frontline, 1989. Narrowpath, 1988. college radio, is intenSity. College Purified Seven nmes Heaven Is CBlllng Huds Continental indep'l, Spring 1992. Knock, Breafhe, Shine Single, Fall Aga;n Progressive includes lolk, acouslic indep'l. 1991 . Broken, 1986. Planklon, 1989. PO Box 200255·106 Alarma, 1990. Narrowpalh. and club·oriented rock, whereas Anger Info Passion Austin, TJ( 78720 Honesl Tear T·BONE BURNETT ...... California JOHNNY & THE STICKMEN ... B.C. Alternative leans mOre lowards Frontline, 1987. GECKO MONKS ...... Otegon Narrowpalh, 1990. Truth Decay MARK HEARD ...... Calilornia Vie .. from an Ivory Tower punk, industrial and hardeore. Fear & Shelter Tacoma, 1979. THE CRY ...... Texas Tribal Opera indep1 , 1991. A GEOFF MANN BAND ..... England indep1. 1991. JIMMY A ...... _...... Proof Through fhe Nlghf Demo, What If Means to Be Whal, 1987, Ideola. 15284 112th Avenue 3007 SE 80th Chanls Woutd Be a Fine Thing Enfertaining Angels Warner Bros .. 1963. indep'l, 1989. Dry Bones OBnce Surrey, British Columbia indep't, 1984. Portland, OR 97206 Sparrow, 1991 . Trap Door Canada V3R 8Y8 I May Sing Grace DA () ...... California SAM Hill ...... England Warner Bros., 1984. GLORIA .. " ...... Washinglon indep'l, t964. A PICNIC WITH LURIA ...... Oregon Horrendous Disc KAJA .. " .. " ...... England Trap Ooor, EP 2000 Years, EP HOI POLLOI ...... New Zealand Solid Rock, 1980. see Ellis, Beggs & Howard Psalm Enchanled Evening ACOUSTIC SHACK ...... Demon, 1984. indep'!. 1990. Melt Down, EP Indap't, 1985. Alarma Extra Play (Islands) unfitled Behind Ihe Trap Ooor, EP new atbum in pnogress Jayrem, t985 , Jamboree. Won By One Newpax, 1981. EMI, t984. Blonde Vinyl, 1991 . Demon, 1964. indep'l, Winter t991. Independence Day, EP Marshall Pick'g, 1987, Ihe Doppleganger Crazy People's RighI fo Speak The Talking Animals c/o Bill Power W.EA, 1986, Jamboree. Band. ADAM AGAIN ...... California Alarma , 1963. EMI , t965. CBS, 1988. 3045 NW 56th Sireel # 5 Sallsfy, EP Prinfs of Peace In a New World of Time Vox Humana Seallle, WA 98107 Showdown Prod., 1990. KIRK (disbanded) ...... Calliornia Marshall Pick'g, 1988, Ihe Blue Collar, f 986. CAEDMON PLATEN TANNER ... Tx Refuge, 1984. PO Box 67·052 Single, Running with the Young Band. Ten Songs by Adam Again Rome Wasn'f Burnt In a Day Knowledge & Innocence GO GO STREET ...... Scotland MI. Eden, Auckland , NZ indep'l, 1987. In Difference Broken, 1988. indep't, 1990. Shadow, 1988, T. S. Taylor. unlitled Colors of Life Planklon, 1988, wi Marc Catley. Homeboys Fearful Symmetry indep't. THE HOLlOWMEN ...... Canada CAFE NOIRE ...... California indep't, 1987. Live al fhe Marquee Broken, 1990. Frontline, 1986. Portralfs 01 My Rellection unflffed A Briefing for Ihe Ascenf GO VERTICAL ...... New Mexico indep1, 1990. KING J & THE CONCORDANCES , indep'!. 1989, the Bend. THE ALARM ...... Wales indep't, 1989. Frontline, 1987, T. S. Taylor. unlilled RR4 The Authorized Version Live af the Marquee 14110189 untnled, EP indep'l, 1989. THE CALL ...... Darn Floor · Big Bile indep1. 1991 . Niagra on Ihe lake V.T.O. Music, 1990. IRS, 1963. Loud Symbols unlitled Frontline, 1987. t 805 Artene Road Ontario, Canada lOS lJO fDo Declarafion indep'l, 1990. Mercury, 1982. Let's Spin Rio Rancho, NM 87124 V.T.O. Music, 1990. IRS, 1964. HUMAN CONDITION ...... California Red Rockers Distribution lIodern Romans Alarma, 1988, Swirling Eddies. 2nd ACM Compilation Splril of '76, EP unflfled lEVEL HEADS ...... Canada 370 Greenlree Lane Mercury, 1983. Outdoor Elvis IRS, 1965. DALLAS GRAHAM & the Revs N.Z. Image, 1991 . unlltl.d Milan, MI 48160 Scene Beyond Dreams Alarma, 1989, Swirling Eddies. Slrengfh PO Box 1374 indep'l, 1988. 2nd ACM Compilation Mercury, 1984. The Mlracte Fallh Telefhon ERIC H.".. ..." .. " ...... " ...... louisiana IRS, 1965. Hanlord, CA 93232 Momenlo Mori Reconciled Alarma, 1990, Dr. Edwrud Taylor. Potluck Suicide BRIAN McGLYNN ...... Scotland Eye of lhe HurriclJne Broken, 1988. Eleklra, 1988. Live Boofleg 1982 indep'I, 1987. HUNTING MAN ...... New Zealand Days In Arcadia IRS, 1987. Inlo fhe Woods Frontline. Sfan was a Plush Toy Plastic Coaled Dreamland, EP LIES DAMNED LIES ...... ". Scotland Sticky, 1982, The Victors. EleclJic Follc/ore Live, EP new album available Eleklra, 1987. Kalhoun indep1. 1989. Siress Music, 1991. The Vital Sparll IRS, 1988. Sire, 1990. LeI lhe Day Begin Frontline, 1991 . new album In progress PO Box 2606-551 Slicky, 1985. Change MCA,1969. indep'l, Spring 1992. Torrance, CA 90503 Singl., Sout Doctor IRS, 1989. DAN H. BAND ...... Minnesota LIFESAVERS (see L.S.U.)Califomia Red lloon 4427 'A' Seminary Place Sticky, 1987, Soul Doctor. CMnge (Welsh Language The Line IN THE SILENCE ...... Auslralia Us Kids MCA, 199O. New Crteans, LA 70t 26 Version) indep'l, 1988. Things 10 Come indep'1. 1981, lifesavers. DAN MICHAELS ...... recorded a 20 song live album 2nd ACII Compllallon Sfandards Shadow indep't. Dream Llle lOOking for dislribulion, 1991 . Reveat IRS, 1990. indep't, t 988. It's Only Tim. Refuge , t963, lifesavors. indep1, 1991. EliM HALL ...... " ... Canada Raw Golden SIreefs indep't. A Kiss of Life CAMEL SOCIETY KINGS ...... Pa Things Break ...... AUSlralia IRS, 1991. indep'l. 1989. Bleeding Heart Frontline, 1988. sae Harborfield Gathering Reunion, 1988. unlltled Infenllons indep'l. THE LIVING ...... Calilomia RIC ALBA ...... Love Runs Deep, EP Let It Thrive Columbia, 1978. indep'l. 1989. PO Box 695 new album scheduled Holes In lhe Floor of Huven indep1, 1987. indap'l, 1991. Head Injuries House 01 Slone North Sydney NSW 2059 Narrowpalh. Glasshouse, 1991 . Always Under Your Hair, EP c/o Glen Teeple indep'l, 1990. Columbia, 1979. indep'l. 1990. RR# 1 INNOCENCE MISSfON ...... ALLIES ...... 420 10th Avenue North LIVING IN CANAAN ... Pennsylvania Bird Noises Mona,Onlario untitled Long Way from Paradise CANNON HEATH DOWN ... Canada Minneapolis, MN 55401 5-Song Demo Columbia, 1980. Canada NOM I A&M, I989. Dayspring, 1989. 5866 Lancaster Sireel eo indepl Place Withoul a Posfcard DANCE OF THE PORCUPINES Ca. 2nd ACII Compilation Infervlew In Issue 4 7-Song Demo The River Vancouver, B.C. V5R 4Bf CBS, 1981. Demo, unfitled Dayspring, 1990. PETER CASE ...... indep't, 1989. ANIIIA TOR ...... unfifled new album recorded Gallery Geffen, 1986. Narrowpalh, Spring 1992. indep1, 1991. The Man wifh the Blue Gullar MARK DAVIS ...... California PO Box 4B3 Geffen, 1989. Demo, Falls Like Rain Urbana, lL 6t801 CHAGAlL GUEVARA ...... indep'l, 1988, ClockworK. ASHES TO ASHES ...... Washington unflffed DEACON BLUE ...... unlifled, EP MCA, I991 . Rainlown indep'l, 1990. CHANGED ...... Holland Columbia , 1988. WHITE THRONE new elbum scheduled ff's Good fo be Alive When Ihe Worid ... Name indep'l, Spring 1992. indep'l, 1988. Columbia, 1989. Who Is Rea/? 4 Becharech & OBvid Songs, EP THE AWAKENING ...... Canada indep't, 1989. Columbia, 1990. Two Worids Wake Up indep'l, 1988. indep'l, 1990. DEAD ARTIST SYNDROME ...... Ca Sanctified c/o Jouke Droogsma Prinfs 01 Darllness Reunion,1987. Julie 21 Public Records, 1990. Inlo Thy Hands 8447 AA Heerenveen Devils, Angels, Sainls Reunion , 1988. Blonde Vinyl , Spring 1992. THE CHOIR ...... California BIG SUR ...... Scotland lsI ACM Compilaflon Voices in Shadows Dancing on fhe Hlghwlre, EP Broken, 1985, Youth Choir. DECEMBER (disbanded)Washinglon Shades of Gray, EP Single, Re·evafuate THE BISCAYNES ...... Arizona Myrrh, 1986, Youth Choir. indep'l, 1990. Dogs and Women Diamonds and Rain S.P.U. Sub Box 1332 indep'I, 1990. Myrrh, 1987. Seallle, WA 98119 new album in progress CMse fhe Kangaroo indep'I, Spring f992 . ROBERT DEEBlE ...... Calilornia Myrrh, 1988. PO Box 33096 Songs lor fhe Sabbatical, EP Wide-eyed Wonder Phoenix, AZ 85076·3096 indep't, 1988·89. Myrrh, I989. 2nd ACM compilaffon 2005 Palo Verde Avenue '230 Circle Slide long Beach, CA 90803 BLACK AND WHITE WORLD .... Ca Myrrh, f990. 2nd ACM Compllaflon unllffed THE CLAIM ...... Calilornia indep'l, 1990. ELLIS, BEGGS & HOWARD ... U.K. Demo, A Time for Answers unlitled album availabl. indep'II988. Blonde Vinyl, 1991 . Island, I989. 25292 Mcintyre 2952 Pepper Tree lane laguna Hills, CA 92653 PAUL ESLING ...... ".llIinois ApI. 'C' See Faith & Reason Costa Mesa, CA 92626 THE CLEAR ...... New Zealand unfilled, EP Equinox BLACK CARNATION ...... indep'l, 1989. indep11983, Thin Red Line. Hope Sectusion In Paradise FAITH & REASON ...... lIIinois indep't. 1990. indep'I,1984, Thin Red Line. unfltled 915 Jackson NW unllfled, EP indep1. t990. Grand Rapids, MI 49504 Ode , 1985, Thin Red line. 902 E. Maple 2nd ACM Compl/aflon SimpliCity, EP lombard, Il 60148 Ode, 1986, Thin Red line. JOHNNY J. BLAIR ...... California FAT 'N FRANTIC ...... England Lie of fhe Land Ooor in fhe Wafer Waxing a Holfle Ode, 1987, Thin Red line. indep'!. 1985, reissue 1988. I.C.Y., 1986. unfilled, EP un/Hled (fhe Green Album) Aggressive Sunbafhing Ode, 1988. indep1, 1986. I.C.Y., 1987. Live Sfomach Yellow House Single, Wife Hoovered my Head indep'l, 1990. indep'l, 1988. I.C.Y., 1989. interview in Issue 5 Train Tracks In Ihe Snow Fal 'N Frantic Live . , , Narrowpath, 1988. I.C.Y., 1989. BRUCE COCKBURN ...... Canada Normal Songs and Near Hlfs Ouirk Dancing in fhe Dragon 's Jaws indep'l. t989. BMG, 1990. RCA, t979. 12 Songs ... Love, God, Money Fat 'N Frantic Sings . .. Humans Narrowpalh, 1990. Moles, 1991 . CBS Canada, 1980. PO Box 421890 Fal 'N Frantic Inner City Fronl San Francisco, CA 94142·1890 TO USA CBS Canada, 1981. PO Box 1009 The Trouble With Normal BLUE TRAPEZE ...... Calilornla laurel, MD 20725·1009 CBS Canada, 1983. Sancfuary, EP Slealing Fire 441 ...... California indep'l. 1986. CBS Canada, 1984. unllffed Mask & Marquee, EP World of Wonders Blue Collar, t984. indep't, 1986. MCNGold Castle, t 986. Mourning Inlo Dancing Demo, From a Dream Waifing for a Miracle Blue Collar, 1986. Indep'l, 1987. Gold Castle, t987. Sacrifice Demo, Farewell Co No One Big Clrcumsfance Broken, 1988. indep'l, 1987. Gold Castle. 1988. Demo, WaiCing on your Call THE FREE ZONE ...... England Bruce Cockburn: Live Indep'l, t989, DanCing Crows Single, Large as LIfe Gold Castle, 1990. The World Won 'I Fif My Skull Indep't. Nofhing Buf a Burning Lighf Indep'l, t99 t . Political Assylum Gold Castle, 199t . 112t 261h Street Indep't SUite 1 COLOR BLIND ...... Calilornla Mammon Sanla MOnica, CA 90403 Pain,Pride,Sfupidify & Prejudice Indep'l, 1990 1st & 2nd ACM Compilaf/ons indep'l, 1989. The House 01 Cheep MIDNIGHT OIL ...... conlinued cats Welcome You Home, EP S.O.S...... Northern Ireland THE THROES ...... Virginia Beginning is &11 Done VAGUE ...... lIIinois VIOLENT FEMMES ...... Single, When f meefs I SpecIH Deceases indep't, 1989. Borderiand The Era of Condolence indep't, 1989. Truth Unlea.hed The Blind Leading lhe fMkad Plankton. CBS. 1985. Strange T.les indep't, 1990. indep1. 1989. 6437 Perdido indep'l, t966. Slash, t 966. Unusual Shade, EP Forgotten Yelrs indep't, 1990. 8 Castle burn Drive Flowers In Your Mother's Eyes Watauga, TX 76 t 48 untitled untilled Plankton, 1985. CBS,I990. Gnuhlng of Teelh Carricidergus, Co. Anlrim R.E.X., 1990. indep't, 1990. Slash ,1987, The Mercy Seat. DI.tance EP UTHANDA ...... California Grows, Blue Sky Mining indep't, 1990, Gadget. BT 38 7LX Northern Ireland 891 t Gladehill Road A Glimpse of Deep Symbolism 3 Planklon, 1966, demo, Be My Friend CBS. 1990. PO Box 1260 Fairtax, VA 22031 indep't, 1990. Slash, t988. SONRISE ...... Holland indep't. 1988. WHITEHEART ...... Youngstown, Ohio 44501 Collag' new album scheduled MISSION OF MERCy ...... Illinois Singla, Get Up TONIO K...... California Groove Freedom indep't. 1990. Slash, t99t . Shadows THE PRIMARIES ...... Washington Embryo Arts. Le Bomba, EP Broken Songs, 1991 . Sparrow, 1989. John or Paul indep1. 1990. new album scheduled Capitol, 1982. 1st ACM Complletion THE VIOLET BURNING ... Calilornia THE SPIRALS ...... New Zealand PO Box 1362 Po_Hou" Kllllng Time, EP indep1, Spring 1992 Romeo Unchainad Chosen StarSong, t 990. This Dreaming U2 ...... Ireland Wheaton , IL 60t 87 indep'l. 1990. PO Box 51027 WhaVA&M, t 966. New Breed, t990. indep't, 1987, The Ouiet. Boy 2nd ACM Compilation WINDY LYRE ...... California cages Crashing Seattle, WA 98115 Notes from a Lost Civll8281lon new album In progress Island, t980. THE WALK ...... Pennsylvania new album schedulad indep1,1991. 2nd ACM Compilalion WhaVA&M, 1988. VECTOR ...... California October Demo, earriers Blonde Vinyl, t991. PO Box 1895 SPUT LEVEL ...... Germany new album scheduled Mannequin Virtue PRIORITY PAID ...... Australia Island,I981. indep't, 1966. Aurora, IL 60507 View of a World A&M, I991 . Exit, t983. 'st ACM Compilation Images War The Longing Please Stand By WORLD THEATRE ...... MORELLA'S FOREST ..... California CHRIS SPRANCKLEN ...... England THIS TRAIN ...... California Island, t 983. indep't, t987. RED C ...... Michigan Exit, t985. see Human Condnlon Keep Running 8713 Topanga Cyn Blvd Under a Blood Rad Sky Indian Lend NIMMZWEI ...... Germany unlit/ad Simple Experience Awkward Age indepl West Hills, CA 9t304 Island, 1983. Talkingtown, 1990. Wer Fragt Schon Nach Senf indep't, 1989. Gaga, 1989. indep't, 1966, Flock t4. No Disgul" The Unforgettable Fire Talk ingtown Records indep'l, 1988. PO Box 725091 TRIBE OF DAN ...... England M. V. & P.S.B. compilalion BfBve Ikw World indep'l. Island, 1984. 8 Reliance Court clo Volker ScIlmidl·Baumler Bekley, MI 48072 The Beeb Tapes Gaga, t989. Graceland, 1987, Flock 14. The Unforgettable Fire, EP Tellord, PA t8969 Gerspnzweg 21 SPY GLASS BLOE ...... California indep't. 1989. untitled THE REIGN ...... California Island, 1985. VEIL OF ASHES ...... 61 ()() Darmstadl • Eberstadl see also Scaterd·Few 456 Philip Gardens THE WALTER·EUGENES ...... Frontline, 1989. Back From Euphorla Wide Awake In America, EP Nfl/roe In Sullry Places Eynesburg St. Neats untilled NINA ...... indep't, 1989. Island, 1985. indep1, t988. CHRIS YAMBAR ...... Ohio R.E.X .. Spring 1992 Cambs PE9 205 England Ocean, t991. No Shadow of Turning new .fbum scheduled The Joshua TIN Pain Weird OUlakes, Volume 5654 Cahuenga Blvd. #523 t R.E.X., 1991 . Image, Spring 1992. TRIO OF ONE ...... Texas Isl"'!d, 1987. Frontline, 1989. PETE WARD ...... England North Hollywood, CA 9t 601 indep't. PO Box 12391 Only Rattle and Hum new album In progress Between the Eyes PO Box 1260 NO TIME FOR TALKING ...... N.Z. La Crescenta, CA 91224-5391 STINGING RAIN ...... Pennsylvania indep't, 1989. Island, t 988. Blonde Vinyl, Winter 199t. Plankton, 1983. Youngstown, Ohio 4450t Heydey, EP Shadows of Reality indep1, 1991. THE REIGN ...... 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Dark,I988. clo Axel Dresbach Global PacifIC, 1987. Atlantic. Ark, 1989. TOM SHINNESS ...... Texas Bliss The Highland Connecllon Wiehler Strabe 14 Other Time., Other Places Out of the Shadows The Tale of ThIN TINS Something Instperable indep1, 1991 . Ridge, 1979. STREET LEVEL ...... England 5226 Reichshof Global Pacific, 1989. Atlantic. Ark, 1990. indep1, 1989. PO Box 2806-551 Racovery Single, Never Knew Wehnrath Jonah's Joumey C.nlerpolnt 1807 Post Oak Lane Tooanc8, CA 90503 Ridge, 1981 . Embryo Arts. JEFF JOHNSON ...... Oregon Germany indep't, 1990, D.F. & S. Halpern. Ark, 1990. Carrohon, TX 75007 Hearlland RNy The Anvil of God's Word THE OCEAN BLUE ...... Great Romantic, Ridge, 1985. Gutter Music. JUSTO ALMARIO ...... BOB HANSON ...... British Columbia Ark, 1976. SANDY SIMPSON ...... untitled Ark, I991 . The Culler and the Clan Forever Friends Single, Child on the Run PIee" Forgive us Lord The PassIng of the DltIr SirelReprise, 1989. STRING THEORy ...... California Song. of Albion Ridge/Chrysalis, 1987. Plumbllne indep1, t 988. Ark, 1977. Outrigger. new album scheduled Ark. Spring 1992. THE DOD JOBS ...... California Once In • Lllelime Sparrow, 1987. The Face of the Deep indep1, Summer 1992 ARK Records ADRIAN SNELL ...... Wlter F.II Down Chrysalis, 1988. F.mlly Time TOM HOWARD Ark, cd reissue t 989. l09t6 Blix Street PO Box 230073 Song of .n exile indep1, 1987. Searchlight MCA. Solo Plano Through the Door North Hollywood, CA 91602 Tigard, OR 97223 Word,I989. PO Box 45 Chrysalis, 1989. Maranatha, 1987. Ark, cd reissue 1989. BILL BAUMGART ...... featura In Issue 6 Mw .lbum In prog_ Mendocino, CA 95460 104 High Street THE SWiRUNG EDDIES . California &rv.st Shadow Play • The Kindling Dalkeith, Midlothian EH22 lAW see DA (Daniel Amos) Ark, 1983. ...... RICHARD SOUTHER ...... ONE ANE DAy ...... Washington Frontline, 1988. HAN!hJURGEN HUFElSEN .... Ger· /con. The Wind .nd the WIIuI Helrf)orne lnexpl/cllbly EP SALT SOLUTION ...... England THE SWOON ...... _ ...... _ .... _. many ~~ STIEPHEN BELL·BooTH ...... N.Z. Ark, 1984. Maranatha, 1987. Sparrow, 1985. indep1, Spring 1992. Single, Your Country Needs You Jacob'. DIe Ntue F/iJte Innermlsslon T.,., Shell" F.11en Splendor 1424 Everett Street Embryo Arts. indep1, Restricted Access. Fl6t.nt6ne KERRY UVGREN ...... Ark, 1966. Sparrow, 1966. Sumner, WA 98390 Ben Son Ben Beatrlct BENEDICAMUS ...... Holland Menschllch One of Several Possible Muslks STIEVE SCOTT ...... California Born of Water KIRK WHALUM ...... 2nd ACM Compilation indep't, 1987, Access. unlitlad Domino Sparrow, 1989. Lov. In lhe Western World Ark, 1987, wlFriesen & And You Know Thet unlitled Een Man Kwam In Een Lend OVER THE RHINE ...... Ohio Exit, 1983. 10NA ...... England Hagleganz. CHRIS UZOTTE ...... California CBS. Narrowpath, 1990. 111 We &ve Faces Losl HorIzon GERT BERKHOUT ...... Holland unlitled The Awakening Free The Prom/" indep1, 1990. Alternative, 1988. TALKING DRUMS ...... Scotland Straight From My Hearl indep't, 1990. Ark, 1987, wI Sandy Simpson. New Breed, 1991. CBS. PO Box 2572 Mlgnffletnl ObsHsIon see Lies Damned U.s indepl Cincinnati, OH 45201 Alternative, 1990. Fighting to the Finish MARC CA TlEY ...... England Interview In Issue 5 Sticky, 1982. CHARUE PEACOCK ...... California GEOFF MANN Demos Lie Down In lhe Grass SEVEN STORIES ...... Australia new .Ibum In progress Sticky, 1983. ExiUA&M, 1984. Judge. and Bagmen Plankton. 1991. Reassembly Single, Tum Me untitled CBS Auslralia, 1990. Sticky, 1985. RODNEY CORDNER ...... Ireland indep1, 1966. Exit/Island, 1966. THE SEVENTY SEVENS . California Single, Prelend • Stranger JOHN PIERRE RUDOLPH Join &nds, EP West Coati DIane. Ping Pong OVer lhe Abyss Sticky, 1985. Only One fMme indep'l, 1989. Jamz lid., 1988. Exit, I982. indep1, 1981, wI Tim Manly. c/o DaniAI Nordstrom Wesl Coast DIaries, Volume II TALL STORIES ...... Australia All F.II Down On the Other &nd PL. 6511 Ersmark Jamz lid., 1989. see Stven Stories Exit, I984. indep't, 1983. A SIGHT UNSEEN ...... ALTERNATIVE (disbanded) ...... Ca SbJlrway 10 Heaven S·902 66 Umea West Coast Diane., Volume III SleepIng Through Another War, EP unlitled Up Hili and Down B"" new album scheduled Demo, Just Me Ladd·Frith, 1990. Jamz Ltd., 1989. indep't, 1987. CHATTERBOX ...... California ExiVlsland, 1987. GMI,1 985. New Breed, Winter t 991 . indep't, 1988. Mat.rial World The Secrel of Time new album rumoured Stick .nd Stones CHRIS TAYLOR • Windows Texas W. SbJnd Forglv.n untitled Ladd·Frith, 1990. Sparrow, 1990. ABSENCE OF CERAMICS ...... N.J. Broken, 1990. ... so much for the Blues GMI, I988 . Indep't, 1989. The Gospel according to ... CHILDREN OF THE ...... West ea.t D/arIH, III • III The Exeapllon of the Rule Mw ...... 11&1 You" E..,.Be indep1, 1989. A Touch of Irlsh Joy 23042 Merle Ct. Minus Habens, 1990. CONSUMING ARE Sparrow, 1991. indep1, 1987, AOC. Alternative , 1990, 7&TIS. What'. Left When ... GMI, I989. Grand Terrace, CA 92324 The F.ther, The Son ... untitled Lov. Life One Lut Guy Elghty·Elght indept 1990. Sing for the Song Ladd·Frith New Breed, 1991. Sparrow, 1991 . indep1, t988, AOC. APPLEHEAD ...... California Brainstorm, 1991. Simple Things Confound The indep'l, 1990. P.O. Box 967 PO Box 210694 Soft Drinks for Terrorlst. new .lbum recorded CHRISTIAN IMAGE ...... Holland WI""", Eureka, CA 95502 Nashville, TN 37221-0694 SHOT HEARD 'IIOIJjI) THE BLOC Tx ROBIN CROW ...... indep't, 1989. Spring 1992. Imagine Heaven, Imagine Hell indep't, 1991. 1st ACM Compilation Interview In Issue 3 Pierce of the In_t fMlI Windows to the World PO Box 190 indep'l, 1989. A Place to Hide Away BETRAyAL ...... indept 1990. Fortress, 1966. Willingboro, NJ 08046 THE BLAMED ...... California I Shall not W.nt for Power SAM PHILUPS ...... Califomia indep't, 1991 . R.nalssance by Death The" ThIN Things Creator new album scheduled indep1. 1989. The Turning 1455 Stonewall AFTER 11 ...... Pennsylvania Wonde~and, Winter 1991. indep1, 1991 . indepl, Spring 1992. Jerusalem Attack Myrrh, 1987, Leslie Phillips. San Antonio, TX 78211 LASSE DANIELSSON ...... Sweden It's AboUl Time 1-800-627·ROCK Pr9view (SSf page 2) new album scheduled Jake Landrau indep1, 1989. Recollection 2nd ACM Compilation T/a Dla indep't, 1990. indep1, Spring 1992. BUND TEETH VICTORY BAND Tx 4693 Denker Drive W. cast Out the Devil Myrrh, 1987, Leslie Phillips. Solid Rock Import, t 987. The A·Marl Forever Endeavor STEVE TAYLOR ...... Kill a Beby, Seve a Dog Pleasanton, CA 94588 indep'l, 1990. The In

NOW AVAIlABl~ fOR CONC~RT Arr~ARANC~~ fOR r~RfORMANC~ ~CH~DUlING CONTACT JUlIA C. WHIT~ rary groups.. .it'salmost like they're just filling a quota. And once they have enough, it doesn't matter what you're trying to say, or do, or how good you are. Alot of the time... they just don't care. Like they already have enough of what they want. That was theattitudewegot from a lot of the companies. The change I would like to see would be CODE OF ETHICS from inside the company, to the people who actually listen to the music and make the decisions over getting new material and signing bashed over the head with . They don't want you to come out tapes. I think sometimes that the listeners are really contemporary­ and say God Jesus every few words. Yet inside their heart they really minded people who strictly like the mainstream. They don't step do want to hear it, and I think they appreci!lte it. They appreciate outside that. They don't take risks of any kind in picking up new having a group out there that will bring it to them. Anyway, so far bands because they're not sure what they are going to do. That's we've had really good response getting into secular colleges and actually where I'd like to see the cHange ... inside the company places like that. I'm sure at some point we'll run up against a wall itself ... where they do the listening, the A&R people. somewhere, because they're really anti-God, but so far it's been ACMJ: What about radio... do you see any hope there? pretty well received. COE: Yes and no. I think Christian radio has a long, long, long way ACMJ: What do you hope to accomplish over the next couple of to go. Even down here in my area .. .it's almost like they're cut off years with your shows and with your music in the stores? sometimes. In fact, the radio station that I listen to (which is a COE: Well, one of the main things that I would like to see happen contemporary station) just found out about Steve Taylor, you know? is alternative music being brought into the mainstream of Christian This is a group that's already been off the scene for two years, and music. I always felt that the Christian record companies always told they're just finding out about Steve Taylor. Alternative music has us what we could listen to, and would only give us a certain small always been strongest on college radio, and I think thats where its selection of music. That was one thing that really aggravated me as going to remain unless an alternative band can break through and a Christian listener. It made the supply of groups very, very limited. have something that's real radio play but still remains alternative. And they were handpicked groups, I think. Alot of the groups just And that's where Code of Ethics is trying to go. We're trying to open weren't reall aggressive, lyrically or musically. I don't think that alot some doors in that area as far as having a song that will get airplay, of bands were really up to the technology that maybe they should've but will still remain alternative enough. That's a really hard thing to been. What we're trying to do is add today's technology ... we hope to do .. .it's a really fine line you have to walk. As far as having a lot of stay up with the times musically. It seems that Christian music is 3- hope for Christian radio, I think it could be a great, great thing if it's 5 years behind schedule. We want to stay right on top of things, done right, but it just seems that so many Christian radio stations are mUSically, that are going on. And to always provide a good moral still stuck back in the seventies or eighties, you know? They're just background for our listeners. We'd really like to see alternative not up on the times. I'm hoping to see a lot more alternative stations music go into the mainstream. Our music is more ... maybe pop open up... or at least programs. It's still just very, very mainstream oriented. That probably comes from some of my background. Before right now. I was saved, I played in clubs quite a bit. Alot of the pop, I think, ACMJ: What's RE.x. going to do to put you into mainstream influenced some of the writing. So,althoughit'salternativemusic,its college radio? got a crossover pop feel to it. Hopefully we're going to grab some COE: Well ... that's a good question. Through the Pure Rock Report mainstream listeners. It may open up a lot of doors for other we've actually gathered quite a few different college radio stations, alternative bands which is really what I'd like to see in the future. COE: When Code of Ethics started five years ago, it was just program directors, and the addresses and all for different college myself. I was living in Michigan at the time where my Father was a ACMJ: You think of yourselves primarily as a dance band with a radio stations. Alot of secular colleges also. That's where we' re going minister of a church. That's where I spent about 21 years of my life Christian emphasis? to aim mainly. And, of course, the Pure Rock Report will distribute growing up. All my influences were there. I wrote and recorded ten COE: Definitely. I love dance music. Our first two demos were not the cd's to all of the air stations that they serve. I've been gathering songs but it didn't really go anywhere. I didn't have connections or quite as dance oriented, really. We weren't exactly sure where we a lot of secular alternative stations and alternative college anything like that to push it, and the material wasn't recorded very were fitting in. I was really influenced by Peter Murphy, and more stations ... that's where I'd really like us to see push some of our well, so it didn't get very far. I was all by myself without any kind of guitar-oriented types of alternative music. What I really really material. It's hard to say, at this point, whether they'll play them or help, so I just let it go and started writing again. I'd packaged it up always wanted was to get into the dance groove, because that's what not, or whether lyrically they may be too strong. I'm not sure. I'm and everything - made it look like a decent demo - but it just didn't I really like the most - dance-type music. That's where I really see kind of waiting.. .I'm really anxious to see what will happen, and go anywhere. We moved about a year after that first demo to Florida, Code of Ethics going at least for the next three albums. For two to really hoping it will open some doors. But that remains to be seen. where my Father took another church down here. I met Eric at that three albums it's going to be really dance-oriented music. It always I'm not really sure what Doug's planning to do. I think they'repretty time. I had already started on a second demo, another ten song demo. seemed to me that when I went to Christian concerts over the last much just going to send them to college radio stations right now, all Eric helped on a couple of songs on the second tape. Then the entire coupleyearsthatpeoplewerejuststarvingfordancemusic. Every time the Christian ones and some secular. year we shopped it to record companies, but didn't get real good somebody would playa song that you could dance to, the crowd ACMJ: Listening through your materiaLI was wondering if response. It was just okay. Actually, I was really disappointed at would always get into it and get involved right away. I thought the there's any possibility of you putting out a cd single with four or five some of the responses. It just didn't seem like we were getting best way to get a message to a crowd was through dance music and extended remixes ... any chance of something like that? anywhere. I wasn't sure if it was the material or what... that was the of music that I liked the most. type COE: We played around with ita little bit.. We went up to Detroit ACMJ: What sort of response were they giving you? ACMJ:HowdoesthisgooverwithyourFather,beingapastor... you to mix the album down and played around a little bit while we were COE: Well, people liked it. But some of the Christian record being a preacher's kid? there with some remixes. They were really coming out neat, so it labels, to be honest with you, just strung us along. They told us that COE: For years, I grew up in a pretty staunch hardcore Baptist really gave me the idea to do that, to go back in. The single they're it was really cool and they wanted to do something with it...that they home. And, so I grew up feeling that there was no Christian music. releasing off of this is not necessarily a dance song. It's called Greater heard good potential. They would say to send more material and That is was wrong... drums were evil. I started ondrums when I was Love. I think it's more for the mainstream radio station. That's their keep stringing us along. We didn't play out or anything.. .it was just a little kid and then I moved into guitar. I was always taught that hope also, that it will cross into the mainstream. I would myself like the two of us. So over the course of that year, we basically shopped these instruments were wrong ... that they couldn't be used for the togo back and redo a few songs that are on there,and try to distribute the tape and sat around, which was not a good thing to do. On the Lord's glory. That was just one of the stupid ideologies that we were them to some clubs and see if we can get some play like that. There's third demo I had decided to go ahead. I was more influenced by taught. I ended up really rebelling, because I loved music so much. a song that didn't make it on there, .. .its a really good dance song keyboards (even more on the third demo), bought some new equip­ I just rebelled and felt, well ... the only place for me to play was in the called Follaw On we're doing live in concert. It didn't make it onto the ment, and decided this was the last demo I was going to do. I was world. So I was using my talent, but I wasn't using it for the Lord. tape,butwe'retalkingaboutgoingbackinandrernixingsomedance really sincere about it and I prayed about it. I told the Lord this is it, Finally, through different events in my life, I was totally brought mixes and then doing that. Justcomingoutwith one or two songs that I'm tapped out financially, because it's so expensive. I'm going to go around through sickness and things the Lord put in my way. It really areoncd. I hope that works out. We'll probably do that later this year. in, do it 24-track, and lay all the tracks down. I'd come up with some opened my eyes. • I totally turned and gave my music to God. I ACMJ: If someone went to a school or college and would really like material that I thought was really cool this time. So I went ahead into actually stopped for about a month when I got out of secular band I to find some way of getting you there, who would they contact? How the studio and laid down some songs that I had written. I thought this was in. I actually stopped music for about a month just to find out if would they go about that? What would they be looking at realisti­ time it sounded really decent. I went into a fairly good recording Christian music was even right. Over the course of that month, I cally to make something happen? studio, actually a church basement, and laid it all down profession­ really did a lot of soul searching and came to the decision, finally, that COE: Well, right now we're doing all of our own bookings. We ally. I packaged up the whole demo and made it look really decent. it was right and that I was given a talent that I needed to totally use have several offers from some booking companies to sign with them, Then I sent it off to about six different record companies. The first that for God. Through the last few years, my Father's really been turned but we haven't made a decision because its a "real serious decision. called back was RE.X., and I just built a really good rela tionship with around by the music. In fact, the other night he was listening to the You end up signing a long agreement with a booking agent and you them really quickly. They just seemed to have a lot of potential with tape, and he told me how much he really appreciated it and liked it want to make sure that the booking agent is really going to do what what I wanted to do, and we just worked out a really good working and was hoping that it would open a lot of doors for me... that the they say they are going to do, so we haven't jumped into anything yet. relationship. We went from there and started the record deal. In the ministry itself would help other people. He was really excited about meantime, Eric and I decided to go ahead and form a band and start Again, we're still doing our own bookings, probably right up until it. And that's coming from a really staunch Baptist preacher who the first of the year. playing out live, so we went ahead and started booking. I got a full­ used to preach that even Christian rock music was wrong! But, he's time manager who is a friend of mine from Michigan. He was really just seen the changes that it's broughtin my life, and actually seen that ACMJ: Finally, what sort of advice do you have for a band doing interested in the Christian music field and had done quite a bit of it does work. That the Lord can use that type of music just as well as something similar to what you're doing... not signed to a label of any work in it before (not managing bands, but just doing other things). anything. So he's actually pretty excited about the group and the kind ...just doing their own recording and promotion? He moved down to Florida about four months ago just after we'd things that we're doing now, but it's taken a long time. COE: I would say the best thing to do ... if you're looking for that signed the record deal and started working fulltime as the manager. record deal (if that's the direction you think you should go in) ...the We started playing out immediately after the demo tape was fin­ ACMJ: You mentioned that you've got a tour in mind, coming up best thing at this time is to record yourself 24-track (if you can afford ished, even before we got the record deal, which was cool. So, since here in ~he next couple of months. What's that going to involve? to do it), package it up really nice, and send it to a company, though the record deal we stay pretty busy with our gigs and playing live. COE: Well (laughing) .. .it involves us buying a van and a trailer, not necessarily a major label. Alot of times major labels tend to pick ACMJ: What sort of venues are you playing? packing it up, and hitting the road. We're going to go ahead and go up a whole lot of bands and throw a few out to see which ones work. up North and .. .let's see... we're going to Ohio, Illinois(Chicago area), They won't stand behind their bands. I've found it best to find a COE: Well ... weplaysomeseculargigs. In fact, this weekend we're Indiana and Detroit. I'd say that most of our gigs are going to be in company that you see puttingoutreally really good music, like RE.x. playing downtown at a big art festival called Arts Mania. It's a big the Detroit area ... Michigan area actually. We've got a ·few gigs even Find a smaller label that you think is a really strong label. I think festival they have every year. They've asked us to come down and all the way up to the U.P. (Upper Peninsula), but most of them are you'll find those are the labels that really stand behind you with headline it and play on the main stage which is real cool. And that's going to be in the Michigan area, a few in Chicago, one or two in Ohio, advertisement and everything they can possibly do for you. If they all secular. I don't do a whole lot of talking when I do secular gigs, and a few in Indiana. I let the music do more of the talking. We 're also doing churches, really believe in your product, that's what they'll do. A lot of times which were the first concerts we ever started playing. The first were ACMJ: You were saying that you were frustrated with the a major label won't do that. I would definitely recommend for a band really cheap, but now we've started to pick up and do some clubs, a industry somewhat from your dealings with shopping your demo shopping for a record label to shop for a smaller independent label, few secular clubs, and we've booked quite a few Christian clubs, around and from some of the feedback you got...the stringing along. because they're always looking for a great new act to stand behind. which is really cool. That seems to be the real in thing now. Christian If you could make some changes to the ind ustry, what are a couple of And, that's what we did. We shopped around. dance clubs are starting to pick up, which really helps us a lot since things you would want to change about it pretty quickly. Correspondence: we're doing dance music. We've booked quite a few Christian COE: I definitely think that the Christian record business is just colleges and we're going to be going on a tour now in November, that. It's just a business. There are very few that are really ministry­ 10575 Langsland Court so .. .it looks like probably our mainstay is going to be Christian minded ... definitely very few. And you'll find that it's probably just Jacksonville, FL 32257 colleges and clubs. So far we've been received well; I haven't really the really smalliabels... they're the ones who are ministry-Oriented. heard anything negative. They know it's Christian music. When we But, for the most part its just a business like anyone else. And it's a cut­ Booking: Don Wrenn (904) 565-9336. go to book secular colleges or any kind of secular venue, we don't tell throat business a lot of times. The more you get involved, the more them that we're a Christian band. After they listen to the tape, of you see that there are a lot of problems inside it - internally - in some course, some of them, actually most of them, know that we are of the bigger companies. I think they have A&R people who are promoting Christian ethics. I think there seems to be these days some strictly concerned with whether they're going to make a big killing on sort of a need for morals. And it just seems like they accept it really it or not. The only reason that a few of these progressive bands now well, you know, Code of Ethics. We don't bash people over the head see openings is because these companies are realizing that people are with Bibles. I know that there are a lot of older groups that feel you absolutely screaming out for it...that they're going to buy it so much. need to have an alter call, and you have to preach the Word -like a That's why the doors are opening. It's taken a long time because there pulpitina way. We feel, especially with alternative music, that doing are a lot of people out there like myself who've wanted to hear good that really turns off the alternative crowd in the clubs and things like Christian alternative music, but could never get it. I think they have that. t think they want to hear it in the lyrics and in the music. I think something like a quota - here a few heavy metal bands, and there a they want to hear good ethics and morals, but they don't want to be few alternative bands. They have a whole lot of regular contempo- +

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