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TITLE Protection of College Athletes. Hearings Before the Special Subcommittee on Education of the Committee on Education and Labor. House of Representatives, Ninety-Third Congress; First Session on H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5624. INSTITUTION Congress of the U.S., Washington, D.C. House Committee on Education and Labor. PUB DATE 73 NOTE 389p.

EDPS PRICE HF-$0.75 HC-318.60 PLUS POSTAGE DESCRIPTORS *Athletes; *Athletic Coaches; *College Students; *Federal Legislation; *International Programs IDENTIFIERS Hearings; *Higher Education Act of 1965

ABSTRACT Presented is the full text of hearings before the Special Subcommittee on Education during March and April 1973 concerning bills to amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to protect the freedom of student athletes and their coaches to participate as representatives of the United States in asateur international athletic events, and for other purposes. (JCW) PROTECTION OF COLLEGE ATHLETES

HEARINGS 11EFoRK THE SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON EDUCATION or THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-TIIIRD CONGRESS FIRST SESSION

ON H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5624 HILLS TO AMEND THE HIGHER EDUCATION ACT OF 1905 TO PROTECT THE FREEDOM OF STUDENT ATHLETES AND THEIR COACHES TO PARTICIPATE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATEN IN AMATEUR INTERNATIONAL ATHLETIC EVENTS. ANI) FOR OTHER PURPOSES

HEARINGS HELD IN WASHINGTON, D.C. MARCH 5, 19, 20, 27, 2$. 29, ANI) APRIL 2, 1978

Printed for the time of the Committee on Education and Labor CAUL IL ESKIN3,Chairman

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HA GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 20-713.-0 WASHINGTON s1973 COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR CARL It. PERKINS, Kentucky. Chairman PRANK THOMPSON, Ja., New Jersey ALBERT H. QUIN. Minnesota JHN H.ma,Pennsylvania .101IN M. AgHBROoK, Ohio DOMINICK V. DANIELS. New Jersey ALPHUNZO BELL, California JOHN !MAMMAS. Indiana 3011NN. ERLENHORN, Illinois JAMES G. O'HARA, Michigan JOHN DHLLIINHACK, Oregon ACONITES P. nAwKINS. California MARVIN L. ESCH, Michigan WILLIAM D. FORI), Michigan EDWIN D. ESHLEMAN, Pennsylvania PATSY T. MINK, Hawaii WILLIAM A. STEIGER. Wisconsin 1,1,oTto MEEDS, Washington MARIA F. LANIXIREBE. Indiana PHILLIP BURTON, California ORVAL HANSEN. Idaho JoIMPII M. GAYD0S, Pennsylvania EDWIN B. FORSYTHE, New Jersey WILLIAM IRI1.1.1 OAT. Missouri JACK F. KEMP, New York SHIMMY New York PETER A. MONIER, New York MARIO BIAGGI. New Yorli DAVID ToIVELL, Nevada 141.14.% 'I'. GRANS°, Connecticut RONALD A. SA RABIN, Connecticut RSIANo 1.. SIAZZoLl. Kentucky ROBERT J. MEER, Michigan IIERMAN BADILLO. New York IKE P. ANDREWS, North Carolina WILLIAM LEHMAN. Florida JAIME BENITEZ, Merle Rico

SegclAl. SUBcoM st ITTEK ON EDUCATION JAMES G. o'HARA. Michigan, Chairman MAIM MAOGI, New York JOHN DELLENHACK. Oregon PHILLIP BURTON. California JOHN N. ERLENDORN, Illinois JOHN HUAI/EMAIL Indiana MARVIN L.PINCH. Michigan JOSEPH M. GAMIN, Pennsylvania JACK P. KEMP, New York IKE P. ANDREWS. North Carolina ROBERT J. HUBER. Michigan WILLIAM LEHMAN. Florida JAIME RENITEZ, Puerto Rico

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Hearings held in Washington, D.C.: Page March 5, 1973 March 19, 1973 95 March 28, 1973 147 March 27, 1973 185 March 28, 1973 209 March 29, 1973 245 April 2, 1973 271 Text of: H.R. 5823 2 H.R. 5824. 5 Statement of: Arnold, Lloyd, national director, Healthand Physical Education, National Council of the Young Men'sChristian Associations of the United States 256 Banners Jim, track coach at University of Pittsburgh 99 Bare, I. rank. U.S. Gymnastic Federation 302 Bisacca, George, attorney, Fairfield, Conn 194 Byers, Walter executive director, NCAA, accompanied by Alan J ChapmanBarnes,Thomas Hansen, Donald C. Canbam and Samuel 272 Cassell. °Ilan executive director, Amateur Athletic Union, accom- panied by David Rivenes, president, AAU, Richard W. McArthur, publicity director, AAU 134 Chapman, James L., president, West Liberty State College 179 Cook, Hon. Marlow W., a U.S. Senator from the State of Kentucky 209 Cooper, Carl W., executive director, U.S. Track and Field Federation 121 Case% Howard, television sports commentator, American Broadcast- ing Co 100 Cross, Prof. harry, senior faculty athletic representative to Pacific Eight Conference 230 D'Allesandro, Louis, director of athletics, New Hampshire College.. 241 Direr, A. 0., executive director and secretary of the National Associa- tion of Intercollegiate Athletics 20, 160 Dunn, Christopher, student-athlete, Colgate University, Hamilton, N.Y 186 Ellis, Larry, track coach, Princeton University. 341 Emery, Warren G., director of athletics, California :astitute of Tech- nology, and president, Southern Pacific Association, Amateur Athletic Union 245 Paean, Clifford B., executive secretary, National Federation of State High School Associations 356 Hansen, Thomas, assistant executive director of the National Col- legiate Athletic Association (NCAA); Philip Brown and Mr. Ritchie Thomas 53 Killiam, George E., execs" director, National Junior College Athletic Association, Hutchinson, Kans 148 Langfir, Jack, basketball player as undergraduate at Yale University, graduate student at Harvard University 114 Mathias, lion. Bob, a Representative in Congrtss from the State of California "17 Milner, T. R., track coach, Colgate University, Hamilton, N. Y 187 Oliver, Peter, Arthur D. Little, Inc 263 Rivenes, David, president, Amateur Athletic Union of the United States (AAU)L accompanied by Man Cassell, executive director; Richard W. McArthur, publicity director; anti Albert F. Whelde, counsel. 28 Steitz, Edward, president, Basketball Federation of the United States of America $0 Wall, Bill, executive director, National Association of Basketball Coaches 221 Wilson, George M., president, United States Modern Pentathlon and Biathlon Association 169 Zimman, Harold, vice president, United States Committee-Sports for Israel 203 (Itt) IV

Prepared statements, letters, and supplemental material etc.- - Berkowsky, Peter A., Newburgh, N. Y., letter to Chairman O'Hara,Pete dated March 23, 1973 366 Byers , Walter, executive director, NCAA: Events certified by Extra Events Committee 287 Excerpt from the Constitution NCAA 282 Growth in NCAA championship events, 1947-73 (chart) 284 Letter from Senator Marlow W. Cook, et al., dated March 29, 973 Me1morandumfrom Louis J. Spry 333607 NCAA membership growth, 1949-73 (chart) 283 NAIA Bylaws 308 "New York City Indoor Championship," a newspaper article 299 Notice of appointment of delegates: Yale University 278 Purdue University. 279 University of Arkansas 280 University of California, Berkeley 281 Testimony of 311 "Woods' First Record: Steel Shot, in Bubble, for 10 Fans," a magasine article 300 "World Records," a listing (table) 275 D'Allesandro, Hon. Louis, a State legislator from the State of New Hampshire, letter to Chairman O'Hara, dated April 9,1973, enclosing an amendment. 244 Duer, A. 0., executive secretary, National Association of Intercollegiate Athletes, statement of 27 Finnefon,Les, Washington editor, Swimming World & Junior Swimmer: "American Swimmers, Officials Face Suspension by AA U," a magazine article 371 "China Swim Tour Official Sues AAU," a newspaper article. 373 "National Swimming Committee Reverses AAU Stand on China Tri_p," a magazine article 374 Hansen, Thomas C., assistant executive director, National Collegiate Athletic Association: "AAU Refuses to Panic," a newspaper article 80 "Collegians Disallowed for Russian Series," a newspaper article... fil "NCAA Bars Players From Russian Series," a newspaper article.. 57 "NCAA's Hassle on Hill," a newspaper article 81 Statement of as "Talk of the Times," by Steve Hershey, a newspaper article as "Talk of the Times," by Tom Seppy, a newspaper article 49 Hollander, Richard A., Richmond, Va., Richmond Newspapers Richmond Coliseum, letter to Chairman O'Hara, dated Much 22, 1973 370 Plant, Marcus L., professor of law, The University of Michigan, Law School, letter to Chairman O'Hara, dated March 22, 1973, enclosing rule 10Outside Competition 367 Rivenes, David, president, Amateur Athletic Union of the United States: Statement of 29 Written statement of AAU of the United States 135 Rubins, Harold, attorney, Beverly Hills, Calif : " Amended and Supplementary Complaint," a complaint filed at superior court, State of California, county of Los Angeles 375 "Answer to Amended and Supplementary Complaint." an answer filed at superior court, State of California, county of ins Angeles 379 Steits,__Edward, president, Basketball Federation of the United States: "History of Basketball Federation Involvement in International Dispute With AAU," a memorandum 81 Text of resolution approved by the 9th World Congress 88 "The Constitution of the American Basketball Association of the United States of America," a document ss

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Stout, Charlesb., secretary treasurer, Washington MetropolitanPau Track Coaches Association. letter from 365 Wilson, George M., president, United States Modern Pentathlon and Biathlon Association, addendum to statement of 171 Wright, Stanley V., chairman, National AAU and Field Com- mittee, et al. letter to Hon. Warren (1. Magnuson, dated Nov. 15, 1973 49

1 PROTECTION OF COLLEGE ATHLETES

MONDAY, MARONE 5, 1073

HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES, SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON EDUCATION tit TIIE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 9:30 a.m., pursuant to call, in room 2175, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon..fames G. O'Hara (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives O'Hara, Lehman, Brademas, Dellenback, Kemp, and Huber. Staff niembeis presentA. C. Franklin, counsel; Elnora Teets. clerk; and Dr. Robert Andringa, full committee minority staff director. [Texts of H.R. A623 and H.R. 56'24 follows (1 fgto CONGRESS ler SIMEON R. 5623

fl THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

MAUCH 14,1973 Mr. O'11i& (fog himself and Mr. IMummtex) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Commit ier on Education and Labor

A BILL To amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to prided the free- dom of student-athletes and their coaches to participate as representatives of the United States in amateur international athletic events, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and Mouse of Represents tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Higher Education Act of 1965, as amended, is amended by adding the following new title: "TITLE XIIIPROTECTION OF ATHLETES AND COACHES "Svc. 1301. No institution of higher education in the United States or official, employee, or member of the faculty thereof, and no organization having as members institutions

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1 of higher education or officials, employees, or members of the

2faculties thereof, may deny, withdraw,or suspend, indefi-

3nitely or for a specified time, the eligibility ofa student-

4athlete to compete in any intereollegiate athletic events,

5including presewion, regularly scheduled, tournament,or

6championship events, because such student-athlete hasex- pressed an intention to participateor has participated individ-

8ually or as a member ofa team representing the United

9States in amateur international athletic competition against

10individuals or a team or teams representingany other country

11or countries.

12 "Sac. 1302. No union, association, feder;ttion,or other

13organization of amateur athletic clubs, schools, colleges, uni-

14versities, or other amateur athletic interests thatsponsors,

15approves, or sanctions amateur international competition be-

16tween athletes representing the United States and athletes

17of other countries may declare ineligible for such amateur

18international competition any student-athlete because such

19student-athlete has participated in an amateur athletic event

20not sponsored, approved, or sanctioned by such union,asso- ciation, federation, or organization. 21

22 "SEc. 1303. No institution of higher education in the United States or official, employee, 23 or member of the faculty thereof, and no organization having 24 as members institutions of higher education or officials, employees, 25 or members of the 4

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1 faculties thereof, may prohibit or in any way penalize a

2coach of student-athletes at an institution f higher eduea-

3tion from participating, or for having participated, as a coach

4of amateur athletes representing the United States in inter-

5national competition against a team or teams representing 6 any other country or countries, because the international

7competition is not to be or was not sponsored, approved, or

8sanctioned by an organization of which the institution of 9 higher education is a member.

10 "Sol 1304.(a) Any person who willfully violates

11section 1301, section 1302, or section 1303, of this act shall 12 upon conviction thereof be subject to a fine of not more 13 'than $10,000. 14 " (b) The district courts shall have jurisdiction for cause 15 shown to restrain violations of section 1301, section 1302, 16 and section 1303 of this Act." 5

93p CONURESS 18? SEMI.IN .R. 5624

IN THE HOUSE OF 1110111ESENTATIVES

11Aut It 14.1973 11r. l'Evont the folloilig whieh was referred to the Com- toittee ondueation and Labor

A BILL To video collegiate and other amateur athletes.

1 Beit essoeted by the South, and House of leepresenta-

2fireS of the rniled Stoles of America in Congress assrinbled,

3that this act he cited as the "Federal Seholastie and Amateur

4Sports Act of 1973".

5 STATEMENT OF FINDINGS

6 Mw. 2. The Congress finds that-

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1 Commission deems necessary to remedy problems which

2relate to its jurisdiction. 6) The Commission shall appoint an Executive 1)ime-

4 for and such other employees as are necessary iu the execu-

tion of its (unctions. Commission employees shall be subject

6tothe provisions of title 5, United States Code, governing

7 appointments in the competitive service.

FEDERAL 81'014TS RULES

9 Sec. 6. The Commission shall have authority to pro- it)mitigaterules or other regulations which relate to the participation of amateur athletes of the hated States in

12international athletic eompetition. Rules or other rquilations

13promulgated pursuant to the authority vested in the emu-

14 mission by this subsection shalt preempt any other rule or

13regulation of anv other association which relates to partici-

16potion of amateur athletes of the ruited States in intermi-

t7tional competition.

18 ADMINISTRATIVE Pit

19 SEC.7. Administrative proceedings of the Commission

20shall he oondtteted in accordance with the provisions of sub-

21chapter II of chapter 5 of title 5, hilted States Code, and

22judicial review, in necnrdmiec with Chapter 7 of title 5,

2:1 United States Code.

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SPORT ADVISORY COUNCIL

SEC. 8.(s) The Commission shall establish an A ma- tear Sports Advisory Council which it may consult before prescribing a sports rule or regulation. The Council shall bo appointed by the Commission and shall be eomposed of eight members, each of whom shall be qualified by training

7and experience in one or more of the fields within the kids- dictiott of the Commission. No member of the Council shall 9 have held any official position with any organization whose

10activities related to the jurisdiction of the Commission. (14 The Council may propose amateur sports rules 12 and regulations to the Commission for its consideration and 13 may function through subcommittees of its members. All

14proceedings of the Council shall he public, and record of 15 each proceeding shall be available for public inspection. tai (e) Members of the Council who are not officers or

17employees of the l'nited Stitt.s shall, while attending meet-

18ings or conferences of the Council or while otherwise en- 19 gaged in the business of the Council, be entitled to receive 20 compensation at a rate fixed by the Commission, not exceed -

21ing 6100 per diem, including traveltime, and while away

22from! their homes or regular places of business they any be

2:1allowed travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of sub- 14

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1 sistenee, as authorized by section 5703 of title 5, United

2States Code. Payments under this subsection shall not render 3 members of the Council officers or employees of the United

4States for any purpose.

3 Sir. 9. The Commission or mty three members thereof,

6as authorized by the Commission, may conduct hearings at

7its office or otherwise secure data and expressions of opinion 8pertinent to the jurisdiction of the Commission. The Commis- 9simm shall publish notice of any proposed hearings in the

10Federal Register and shall afford a reasonable opportunity

11for interested persons to present relevant testimony and data.

12 (b) The Commission shall also have the power-

13 ( 1 ) to require, by special or general orders, amateur 14 sports organizations, individuals, and other associations 15 to submit in writing such reports and answers to ques- 16 tions as the Commission may prescribe; such submission 17 shall be made within such reasonable period and under 18 oath or otherwise as the Commission may determine; 19 (2) to administer oaths; 20 (3) to require by subpena the attendance and tes- firmly of witnesses and the production of all documen-

22 tary evidence relating to the execution of its duties;

23 (4) in the ease of disobedience to a subpena or 24 order issued under this subsection, to Invoke the aid of 15

1 any district court of the United States in compliance

2 with such subpelOt order;

3 (5)in any proceeding or investigntion to order

4 testimony to be taken by deposition before any person

3 who is de4guated by the Connuission and has the power

6 to administer oaths and, in melt instances, to compel

7 testimony and the production of evidence in the same 8 manner as authorized under paragraphs (3) and (4)

9 of this subsection; and

10 (8) to pay witnesses the same fees and mileage as It are paid in like circumstances in the courts of the

12 United States,

13 (c) Any district court within the United States within 14 the jurisdiction of winch any inquiry is carried on may,

15upon petition by counsel for the Commission, in case of

16refitsl to obey a sulqlena or order of the Commission under

17subsection(b)of this section, issue an order requiring 18compliance therewith; and any failure to obey the order of

19the court may he punished by the court as a contempt

20thereof. 21 (d) The Commission is authorized to enter into eon-

22tracts with governmental entities. private organizations, or

23individuals for the conduct of activities authorized by this 24Art. 16

12

(0)The Commission is authorized to estahlkh such

2policies, criteria. and pnedures and to prescribe such roles

3and regulations as it 1WeNSSOry to administer this Apt

4and its futoions hereunder, Unless otherwise specified, the visions of tide 5, I haled SileS Cde, Sisr1101 553,sIlllll

1 apply no such proce'e'ding.

7 COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL AUENCIES SEC. 12. The Commission is authorized to obtain from any Federal Department or agency such statistics, data. pro- w gnuu reports, and other materials asit mar deem nercssary itto carry out its functions under this Act. Each such depart-

12 meld or agency is authorized to cooperate with the ('om-

13mission and, t.) the extent permitted by law, to furnish such

14materials to it. The Commission and the heads of other de-

1 and agencies engaged in administering programs

10related to amateur athletics shall, to the maximum extent

17 practicable, cooperate and consult hi order to ensure fully

1$ coordinated efforts.

19 EN PORI 'EM ENT INJ UNCTIONS

21 SW% I 3. r pun applications by the Attorney General, 1the district courts of the United States shall have jurkdietion

22to enjoin Ilie Commission of nets in violation of any rube or

23regulation issued pursuant to section 6, and to Naomi the

24taking or any netion required by this Act. 17

18

1 INTERPRETATIONS AND SEPARABILITY

2 SEC.14.If any provision of this Act or the application

3thereof to any person or circumstances is held invalid,the

4remainder of the Act and the application of sad' provision

3to any other person or eirctunstances shall not he affected 6thereby.

7 SKr. 13. There are authorized to he appropriated for the 8purwies of vorrying out the provisions of this AO, the fol- 9 lowing sums: $300,000 for the fiscal year endingJane 30,

10 8500.000 for the fiscalyear ending dune 30,1970:

11 and 300.000for the timidyear radial; June 31), 1077. 18 Mr. O'HARA. The Special Subcommittee on Education of the House Committee on Education and Labor will come to order. This morning we will begin hearings by the Special Subcom- mittee on Education of the House Committee on Education and Labor on the control of athletic events involving college athletes andcoaches. Today we are interested particularly in a dispute that has arisen be- tween the American Athletic Union of the United States (AAIT) and the National College Athletic Association ( NCAA) regarding a series of games to be played in the near future with the Soviet basketball team that won the gold medal at last year's . On February 13, 1973, the AAU announced that the Soviet team would tour the United States for a series of games. The AAU said the U.S. team would be announced on April 10. The series is scheduled to begin with a game on April 26 between the Russians and a team com- posed entirely of Utah players. The Russian team is scheduled to then play a team representing the United States on April 29th in the Forum in Inglewood, Calif., and thereafter in five other cities acrossthe Na- tion. The final game of the series is toit the Russians against AAU industrial champions in Lexington. Ky., on May 11. About a week after the AAU announcement, NCAA spokesmen declared that all college coaches and undergraduates under NCAA purview were barred by NCAA rules from participating in the games. Everyone knows that records are made to be broken. No one is more aware of that than the AAU and the NCAA,who keep track of sports records and the shattering thereof. But their disagreement regarding the Soviet basketball team series suggests a broken record of a different kindthe wax disc kind of record which, when broken, traps the phonograph needle and produces the same bit of a tune over and over again. For the AAU and the NCAA have been warring over their respective jurisdictions over amateur athletes for most of the 20th century. This is the latest skirmish in their war. But though only a skirmish, it is an important one. It is important because it relates to amateur basketball in this country, and the longtime AAU representation of the United States on the International Amateur Basketball Federation is ending, with no permanent successor having' yet been named. A power vacuum is developing there. The fact that the disputerelates to basket- ball is important, too, because basketball attracts large television audiences and large television audiences attract sponsors with large advertising budgets. The participants in the dispute are associations. The pawns in the dispute are college athletes. And that is why we are so concerned. We want to know what' can be done in the national interest toend the conflict that may result in our confronting a d Russian basketball team with other than our best competitors. e want to knowif the decision whether a college athlete may take advantage of a once-in-a- lifetime opportunity to represent his country on the basketball court must be made for him or if it might be one he can make himself.There are many other things we need to know, and here tohelp us are rep- resentatives of the National Association of IntercollegiateAthletics (NAIA), the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States (AAU), the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the Basket- ball Federation of the United States of America (BrCSA).

0 11) Before we prayed with the first witness, the Chair would like to take this opportunity to thank the ranking minority member of the committee, Mr. Dellenback of Oregon. for his excellent and total co- operation in this effort and his concern that the best interests of Amer- ica's student athletes be represented. The Chair would like to ask Mr. Delienback if he would care to make any sort of opening statement before we call the witnesses. Mr. Dzia.Exancx. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to make a brief statement if I may. Let me say that our primary purpose in holding this hearing is really to determine whether or not the activities or sports bodies like the AAIT and NCAA have a negative impact on the college careers of student athletes in this country. If this subconunittee does find evi- dence that such is the ease, then it is entirely possible that members of this subcommittee will introduce legislation to remedy the situation. Going one step further, if it appears from the testimony delivered today that the continued and continual feuding between the NCAA and the AAIT has a negative impact on the quality of education offered in our colleges and universities, it would be completely logical to ex- pect Chairman O'Hara to call future hearings on this matter. While the proposed basketball series between the United States and the U.S.S.R. will be the focus of attention this morning, and while the personal feeling that we as individuals and as members of this subcommittee may have regarding the success or failure of that series may become apparent before we conclude today., I want. to emphasize the fact that our primary purpose is to talk about athletics as they impact on education. I commend the chairman for calling these hearings today. I think that the subject matter with which we are involved is an important subject matter. I am personally hopeful that in spite of the past history of what has gone on in the Congress and outside the Congress in this general area of athletics. that we are going to find that these hearings are valuable and that what conies forth in the way of information is helpful. I commend the chairman. Mr. °MARA. I thank the gentleman from Oregon. Are there any other members of the committee who would like to make statements at this time? The Chair would then like to call our first witness, Mr. A. 0. Duey, the executive secretary of the National Assoeiation of Intercollegiate Athletics. Mr. Duer, if you will take your place at the witness table we will be pleased to hear from you. First, let me explain that Mr. Mier is scheduled to attend a meeting of the U.S. Olvninic Committee at noon today in New York. He asked if he could be put on possibly early enough to make that meet- ing, although it. might seem somewhat illogical to proceed in this order by calling someone other than one of the primary disputants first. I thought in the light of Mr. Duer's problem we ought to make the effort to accommodate him. Mr. Duet., would you please identify yourself for the record and then proceed with your testimony. 20

STATEMENT OF A. 0. DUER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND SEC. MARY, NATIONAL ASSOCIATIONOF INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS Mr. Duo. Yes, Mr. Representative. I am A. O. Duer, Al Duer, the executive director and secretaryof NAIA. Irepresent 565 colleges and universities with theaim of making athletics an integral part of the total educational program rather than a commercial and a promotional adjunct. Our feeling is very definitely that international competition is a part of this society, is a part of the total educational program of our member institutions,and I think I can give you an example of that rather quickly. Our organization is instituting a tour. We have been asked by Israel to bring an all-star team to their country in the near future to repre- sent our organization in competition with the Israelnational team. In selecting the athletes for this tour, I called 15 college presidentsof our member institutions to ask whether it wouldbe in the best interest of their institutions for one of their athletes to participate in this tour, and without exception they were delighted to cooperate tomake it possible for their athletes to participate in a tour to Israel. This is also true of the coaches. We selected two coaches to gowith this team. Both institutions were completely cooperative inmaking it possible for their coaches to participate ana serve as coach andassist- ant coach of this team. Our belief in the administration of this type of programis that the responsibility for answering the question as to whether the athletes should participate whether it is in the best interest of theinstitution and the athlete, should be in the hands of the collegepresident and have him confer with the coach and with the athlete and togetherde- termine whether or not it is in the best interest of this athlete,academi- cally and socially, to take this tour. We only had to contact 13 to get 12 athletes. Of the 13 we contacted, 12 were completely willing and able to participate inthis tour. So, I believe the college presidents who are the real guardians of the aca- demic approach to athletics are completely in sympathy with the NAIA in developing an international exchange of toursand events. So, I think that they are convinced that it is not only to the bestin- terest of their athletes and their institutions, but their alumniand the public that this type of tour is a part. and an important part of their educational offering to this segment, the athletic segment, of their institutions. I would go a step further in saying without exception, thesecollege presidents expressed their point of view that this is the greatestthing to happen to our institutions, this is the greatestexperience for our athletes toff() to Israel and have this experience, and without exception, even the athlete who did not wish to competebeeauFe of personal reasons, they were completely enthusiastic aboutthis tour. Now,Ithink we should consider the power of athletics in our so- ciety and I doubt if there is any segment of our society which has as much influence with the American public as does the athleticemphasis which we have today. I think we are all aware that this is the reason that the matter of televitiion has become somewhat of an issue, even thoughIcan't see that it is a serious issue, because the American pub-

a P. P. 21 lie insists that this be a public interest. They have sufficitntinterest to make it imperative that it be shared with the Americanpublic. Even though our organization is completely autonomous from any other organization, we do have an affiliation with the AAU because of the fact. that the AAU in basketball is the recognized governing body of basketball in the United Status. Our policy in this regard is that our organization, completely au- tonomous, will give our support to any organization whichis approved by the USOC, the United States Olympic Committee, and having membership in the international federation for the control of interim- tional basketball under the TOC, we will give our support to those ?r ganizations which have such membership rather then to be in conflict with them in setting up new organizations and new powers. Naturally, I think that is what is the problem at this time. We are consid 'ring mattere of power conflict which in my judgment are destroying the amateur procgss in America. Itis damaging our national image in athletics. 1 think there is no questinn but what we have the strength and power, if we were united in one effort, to do a tremendous job of international comittition, of national competition, and more than hold our own with international bodies, including the Olympics. But if we contii,ue to destroy that image byconflict of organizations within the United States and tearing down of the recognizeA governing bodies in the United States, we will destroy the amateur image first, which I think is significant, and,second, we will weaken our tennis in their strength to participate favorably in interna- tional competition. Now we firmly believe that the real purpose of athletics is not inter- national competition, professional athletics, whatever it mightbe. We firmly believe that athletics is the greatest educational experience to train leadership of high character and moral standardsfor leader- ship in just such positions as you have in heading this committee. I think there is no other area of American life which gives the athlete the training, the moral standards, the ethical process, for leadership in almost any area in American life, and how badly we need this at this particular time. We all know that the future of Amer- ica is not dependent on the strength of our power, but on the strength of our leadership and our morality and the force of our ethical stand- ards in our relationships, as we apply them to the international world. I think it is important that an organization such as ours, which is an educational organization, that our main aimis not that of pre- paring athletes for the professional ranks even though we have no problem. We are proud of having our athletes reach the professional ranks if they are highly skilled, but our main aim is to use athletics as training grounds for doctors dentists,lawyers, senators, gover- n noes,which will give this type of training, of high moral and ethical standards, sportsmanship, if you will, to the leadership of America. It is secondary to us that they be able to participate in professional athletics. I feel that we must deal with the real issue. The real issue is not whether we have a Russian game even though that is the point of issue at this point, whether it is in the public interest. The real issue is whether our country is going to unite, is going to put our forces together as organizations without bickering and without pettiness, to 22 support the image of Cut United States in national and international competition. Gentlemen, we are losing that battle at this time. We are destroying the image of the United States. I think the Olympic program was about as serious as was indicated by reports, but there was an indica- tion of political chicanery and political exchanges which were not .The real heart of the matter is whether we can cooperate to gain the stature in the international athletic world to influence the future of international competition and particularly the Olympic games. We all know that the United States is no longer the focal point around which the athletic world internationally revolves. We all know that the U.S. recommendations are not accepted per se, that they are jealous of our past, in basketball especially. So that the real issue as I see it is just what you have stated. It is in the best interest of this country to so conduct our programs that they will be a credit to the United States, will compete on a favorable basis, not win all the contests, but compete on a favorable basis on the highest ethical and moral standards, which the United States must put forth as an image, if we are to keep our stature as a nation in the world of nations today. This, gentlemen, I feel is the real issue we must address ourselves to at this point. We have tried for 10 years to solve this problem by volun- tary action and it has failed miserably. Somewhere, someplace, some- body, the American public must put pressure on all areas to bring about a unity of understanding and a unity of competition and strengtb so that we will not be embarrassed in international competi- tion, because the sports area is one of the most significant. I think that is all I have to say. I thank you very much for bringing this issue before the American public as a committee. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you very much, Mr. Duer, for your testimony. If I could, I would like to ask a couple of questions. Your association, the National Association of Intercollegiate Ath- letics, involves how many colleges and universities? Mr. Dm. It involves 5611 colleges. We have 15 national champion- ships in as many sports each year. Mr. O'HARA. The NCAA has a rule that limits the participation of members of athletic teams of affiliated institutions, limits their partici- pation through the school team, but it limits participation in sports outside the regularly accepted season. Mr. DUEL Yes. Mr. O'HARA. The regularly accepted season for basketball, I guess, runs from the middle of October or November on up until the middle of March or so. Do yot have a similar rule in the NAIA I Mr. DvER. We do rat. We have a national tournament beginning March 12, involving basketball, which incidentally was the first na- tional tournament ever developed in intercollegiate competition in 1987. This is the 36th year. We have 32 teams that come together after a playoff in 32 districts involving some 400 teams to compete in this tournament. Our philosophy and belief on the competition, the right of their athletes to participate, is and we suggest that during the season they not plLy in other competition, but outside the season of play we only insist that they be amateur and that they have the approval of the president of their institution. 23 We do not in any way control the competition. Mr. O'HARA. You do requi iv they have approval of their institution? Mr. Mau. That's right. That is the reason I call the college president to ask him, can your athlete participate in this? Mr. O'limeA. You feel, then, that. the interests of the athlete and of the institution are best served by leaving it up to the institution to decide whether or not the athlete will be permitted to participate in his particular sports activity outside the regular season. Is that right? Mr. Durat. That's right. I have talked to some of the college presi- dents. Some of them have said, "We will have to check with every teacher that this boy has a class with and get his permission for him to go." This is an institutional matter. They know the academic situa- tion of the athlete. Some of them can go without harming themselves a bit. Others cannot go because they fear they will lose a semester of credit. Let me go a step further and say I believe this is true not only of the athlete, but I believe a coach in an institution should not be pre- vented by domination from participation in any area of amateur athletics which he wishes to choose. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you, Mr. Duet Mr. I)ellenback, do you have any questions for Mr. Duets? Mr. DwatixeArn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. hair, we appreciate your testimony. We understand your need to leave. We are grateful for your having worked this in with another trip. May I ask about that tour of the NAIA that is proposed so far as Israel is concerned? When is that to be? How long will it be? How much time will your athletes be away from their normal time in school ? Mr. Diva We are not at this time setting the exact date of leaving and arrival because of security reasons. But it will begin somewhere aroundthe practice for the athletesaround the 25th of March and last until the 9th of April. Mr. DELLEKBACK. I am not. seeking to pin you down on the precise dates. I understand what von are talking about from a security stand- point.. But you are talking from March 25 to the 9th of April as some- thing in excess of 2 weeks or a little bit longer than that? Mr. Dtren. That's right. Mr. Demexaacx. I assume from what. you have said and from de- cisions that have been made in the individual schools that this time will not he considered fatal so far as the academic career of the young man, the individual young man involved; is that correct? Mr. Ihrem Mr. Congressman, I think we should all be aware of the change in the format of the educational process in all of our insti- tutions. The education of an athlete or a young man in any area of an institution is not pinned down to putting his nose in a book and A learning teaching from a professor. It has many areas of experience and institutions are sending groups to Europe for educational reasons, they are sending them to many areas. out on tour for 2 weeks for an educational experience. I think we need to broaden our outlook on what the institutional educational aim is. Yes, I do not believe that 2 weeks in this type of trip is considered by the college president as being detrimental to his educational process. Mr. Derztorancn. Now, at this time are any of your institutions in conflict with their own t,xamination periods! 24 Mr. Dtrza. Yes. Kven this is being adjested to. Mr. DELLIINHACR. So the individual institution is finding this is not fatal so far as these young people are concerned ? Mr. DUEL That's right. Mr. DEMENBACR. Would another week on top of that increase the price to be paid to the point that it was in excess of the value? For ex- ample,if the tmei instead of beginning on the 25th of March were to begin on the pth of March and go on until the 9th of April. in your op!nion would stretching it to 3 weeks still leave the value far out- weighing or at least outweighing the price to be paid by the young person I Mr. Dtrzn. I don't know where you set any particular time, whether it is good or bad. But I do feel that there is a place where it becomes negstive. Mr. Dzuzioncic. The reason I ask the question is that the U.S. National Team proposed for a tour with the Russians is, I under- stand, proposed to begin its operations about the 18th of April and to go until about the 9th of May. I gather the last game, to be played in Baltimore would be on May 9. So it would be 1 week longer than your tour would take. That is why I asked if another week would make a material differ- ence in this value determination. Mr. Duca. I can't answer that, I am sorry, because I can't say at what point it becomes academically wise. I think a college president can tell you. Mr. INLLExamm. You would be perfectly willing to let the individ- ual college president and faculty and young person make that determi- nation? Mr. DUEL That's right. I feel it is his responsibility, not mine. Mr. DELLEIMACR. May I ask one further line of questioning with just a couple of brief questions on it? Now your dozen young people have already accepted. Those dozen, I assume, are among the finest of the players in the NATA 1 Mr. Drum That's right. Mr. DELLENBACK. They, of course, having accepted that commit- ment, will be unable to also participate during exactly the same time in this proposed tour with the Russians? Mr. Dun. Yes. That has concerned me. I wasn't aware that the trips were so near until a few weeks ago. I think there will be some presidents who will feel that it is not in the best interest. However, most of these are seniors completing their college education. I don't know what judgment the college president would make. Mr. DELLEN9ACR. If the dozen young people who have already com- mitted themselves to the Israel tour stay with that commitment, then those dozen will not, of course, be available to represent the U.S. in A this tour? Mr. Dm. There is no rule that they could not. It would be up to the college president and his wisdom on the benefit of the experiences in the educational exchange. Mr. Dammam May I check again on times? Did you say your tour is to go from April 25? Mr. Dm. No, March 25. Mr. DEMENBACR. I beg your pardon. 'Until about when? 25 Mr. Dven. Until April 9. Mr. DNIA.ENIIACK. I begyour pardon. I have confused 2 different months. There would be no conflict Your students would be ableto play in both, but we are dealing witha 2-week period instead of a 3- week period ? Mr. DUER. Yes. Mr. DELLeNaAcit. You are not ina position of conflict since you leave it to the individual school tosay whether or not the 2 weeks plus 3 weeks would or would not be acceptable to the individual institution and to the individual athlete? Mr. MM. No. Many institutions todayare even going to the extent where they are sending their students into businessfor a month or 2 or 3 to get a business experience which they count as part of their education. Mr. DELLENBACK, Fine. Thank youvery much, Mr. Duer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Lehman, doyou have any questions you would like to direct to Mr. Merl Mr. LeintAx. Just a couple. I just want, in relation to this tripto Israel, to ask how the Maccabiah Games themselves would be affected by the regulations according to the NCAA. Woulda Jewish athlete that wanted to compete in a Maccabiah (lame playing fora major college be able to go to the Maccabiah Games? Mr. Dren. That I can't answer for the universities. We have worked closely with the Maceabean Games, recommending to them athletes of Jewish faith to participate in the Maccabiah Games. Mr. LEHMAN. The whole problemseems to be, as well as I can read it, that the AATT is willing and able andwants to get the best college players they can, but the NCAA does not want its players to playon this so-called national team at this particular time. That is about the way it is, is it not ? Mr. Duen. Yes. Mr. LEIIMAN. It seems to me in these times when the kinds ofregu- lation of athletics as a barrier begin to let down,as you can see in the restrictions on baseball players and other people tryingto move from team to team. that these regulations which do notserve a pur- pose for the benefit of the youngster himself should be very carefully questioned at this time. The other thing that concerns me is that tome it would serve the whole national purpose, the worldpurpose, better if the Russian team played more U.S. teams instead ofone national team that they play over and over again. You know, like you win some and lase some. I am not even sure that a national team is a better team than a team like UCLA, which has played together foryears. A I just wondered whether the so-called national team is necessarily the best team anyone could play. I would like tosee more than one team play these people. It gives another group of Americansa chance to participate against the Russians. It would givea wider scope. In the future I hope we will have regional games against regional teams far as I am concerned, I would put in the Harlem Glike-Trotters. The more people who can play against this Russian teamor any other team the better off the whole situation will be. Mr. Ikea. I will take them in order in whichyou have stated them. 26 In the first place, I will say that the decision on playing a number of games and so forth, if we could get the cooperation of all organiza- tions, these problems would be easily solved. Second, I feel we have to be somewhat on a common ground. We can't tell the Russians what to do in athleti We must adjust some- what to them as they must adjust to us. If they present their national team, I think the American people would demand that we present a quality team that can compete favorably with them. There is some question as to whether one team like UCLAUCLA is by far an exceptionally strong teambut generally I would say that a single team would not be in the best interest of competing against an average team, an average, even a major team; that an all-star team which has had time to coordinate would be far stronger. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Duer, thank you very much for appearing before us. The brief that you have furnished the committee, without objection, will be entered in full immediately following your testimony. We very much appreciate your help and your attitude of cooperation. We look forward to questioning the other witnesses. I note with pleasure that we have gotten you out in time to catch your plane. Mr. BRADEMAS. Mr. Chairman, could I ask one question! I don't pretend to be an expert on this particular dispute, although I suppose coming from the State of Indiana I ought to be. I would ask just one question. To what extent has an effort been made, if Mr. Duer can respond to this question, to determine the attitude of the par- ticipating institutions with respect to what appears to me to be a jurisdictional dispute! Mr. DUEL Through the years I think there has been every opportu- nity for institutions through the organization to express their point of view on these games. I think they have been most favorable. Mr. BRADEMAS. That is not my question. My question is entirely a different question. My question is this: As I understand it, what we are really faced with here is a jurisdictional dispute. Is that not correct? Mr. DUEL That is correct. Mr. BRADEMAS. Whoever is right, that is what we are fighting about. My question is this : Has any effort been made this year or within the last few months to determine the attitude of the college and university teams in the United States or of the institutions on the particular issue V I could put the same question to the NCAA witness. What I want to know is, has anybody done a survey, some impartial personI don't mean you as impartial and I don't mean the NCAA asimpartial, you obviously are both partialwhat I am asking is has any impartial survey been made of participating institutions todetermine their atti- tude on this particular dispute! Is my question clear! Mr. Dun. Yes, I think so. I can't answer that because I am not a principal to this administration of this program. We happen to be an organization of an autonomous nature, out in no man's land. Mr. BRADEMAS. I understand that. Mr. Dna. But I do not know of any attempt, I wouldn't know of any_attempt. Mr. BRADEMAS. I would suggest, Mr. Chairman, again without rep- resenting myself as an authority on this subject, although I must say that Coach Johnny Wooten of UCLA used to coach my high school MI COPY AVAILABLE

basketball team in SIMI h HMO Central 11igh School, that it might be useful for the benefit of the subcommittee tt swim such impartialsur- vey were taken. I thank the chairman. Mr. trlIAtiA. That is a yery good suggestion. Mr. DuKu, May I say in that regard thatwe have in a sense through our executive committee taken a test of the interest and their desire for our member 01ganizations to cooperate in thiseffort.They have been unanimouslyi in the interest of cooperation with the AM: in this regard. We have not done so with individual institutions. 11Ir. 0'11.w. Thank you again, Mr. Duet. We appreciate your tak- ing the time to come before us. Mr. Dviin. I appreciate your interest. Mr. O'ILutA. Without' objection the statement submitted by Mr. Doer will be entered into the record inmwdiately following his testimony. [The statement referred to follows d STATEMENT of A. O. DUER, EXECVTIVE SEM:WM NAIA NMA--The National Association of Intercollegiate Athleticsoriginated as a Basketball Tournament Organization and remained Ni, until 1952, when other championship events were added. To this day our National Basketball Tourna- ment remains our premier event, with 32 district championship teams competing in Kansas City for the National ehampkuship. I mention this baekgromal to point the fact that we expect the very best basketball team in a district to represent its district at our National Basketball Tournament. The !veiled. third or fourth best team is not allowed participation. If in any one organization, we can he this selective in participants, how much more No should the United States of America be in its specifications for a United States All-Star Team to meet the proven finest international competitorstile Russians. Each Olympic Sport has n United States governing body which Is a member of the international governing body in that sport. For example. the American Horse Show Association is the United States Governing body for horsemanship and is a member of the Federation Equestre Internationale: the United States Figure Skating Association is the United States governing body in skating and is a mem- ber of the International Skating !Ilion. Likewise. the Amateur Athletic Union (AM') is the United States governing body for basketball and is a member of the Federation Internationale de Basketball Amateur. The policy of NAIA is to sup- 'Hirt the recognized governing body in the United States as approved by the United States Olympic Committee and holding membership in the international federa ilium in that sport. As the United States governing body for basketball. the AMY has the grave responsibility for selecting the most capable athletes and coaches possible to repree9nt the United States on the All -Star Basketball Team to compete against the All-Star Team this Spring. This annual exchange between Russia and the l'ilited States has IIPPII IIPM, under the sponsorship of the Milted States Basketball Governing Body (AAU) for the limit 14 years. The United States Department of State has annually approved this international exchange. To fulfill its obligation, to not only United States basketball but to all loyal United States citizens interested in maintaining the highest quality of participation in interliational events, the AAU must have the complete assistance and support of each and every amateur organization whose membership consists of institutions participating in basketball. Citizens of the United States have every right to expect a first elan team and first class roadie's to Meet the powerful Russian basketball tenni. At the very least. any player or coach contacted to compete should he able to make an Ind,- vidnal choice without fear of recrimination or penalty from any organization. NAIA would hope to have athletes from some of its member colleges and universities selected for participation on a team to compete against theRussian All-Star Tenni. However. We realize our MeMberfadp does not include all of the most prestigious universities in the United States. tt Is our opinion, In the inter- 20-120-74-3 BEST COMlitidUINI est of the United States' prestige as the leading nation in the free world, that it is the duty of every sports organization to rise above petty organizationallona par- tisanship and field the very best United States team possible. If we were to disallow our best athletes or coaches participation in this great international competition, we would expect the public to be highly irate and with just cause. We feel we owe an allegiance to our country that far surpasses any petty juxtapositioning for control of any amateur sports in the United States. Were I a coach or an athlete, I believe I would be so thoroughly nauseated with the flagrant use of authority being imposed upon me that I would probably ask for a congressional hearing. The time is long past due for a cessation in the power struggle for wresting control of au amateur sport from another orga- nization who now is the governing body. According to the polls, the 1972 Olympic Games were viewed by more of the American public than any other sporting event. Since the defeat of the United States Basketball Team in the 1972 Olympic ones, tuitional interest 111114 been feverishly whetted for a return match. We have cried poor officiatingmisunderstanding of rulesand bias of international °Whits. Every red-blooded American is eager for another chancevowing this time it will be different. This is the ultimate In international competition. To field a second -rate team would be cheating the American public and be a bandit- tit ion to the Russian Team. NAIA will eta tinue to follow its policy of giving support to the recognized governing body of any sport and work diligently for the cooperation of all amateur sports organizations. 'the challenge to all of our organizations is to provide sports programs which will serve in character building for leadership with the primary purpose of strengthening the mural fibre of the nation's youth. We feel that international competition is the best interest of our nation and serves to give practical representation of the United States' image of great tompetitive spirit and teamwork. No greater force exists in our society today than the inspiration and chal- lenge of sports. However, the destructive force of organizational conflict and self-peeking power control threatens to dissipate the potential of sports in international relations instead of acting as a unifying medium. We deeply appreciate the interest and concern of your committee of the United States Congress in unifying all amateur sports organizations in the best interest of the athletes and the United States sports' public, Mr. O'HARA. The next group of witnesses will be the representa- tives of the Amateur Athletic Union, Mr. David Rivenes. president; Mr. 011an Cassell, executive director of the A AU, and Mr. Richard W. McArthur, who is the publicity director of the AAti. Gentlemen, if you can take places at the table, we will be very pleased to hear from you Gentlemen, you can proceed in any way of several ways. If you wish. you can read a prepared statement. If ou prefer, you can sub- mit the statement for the record, where it will be printed in full, and you can summarize its contents for the committee,whichever seeing to be your preference. STATEMENT OP DAVID RIVENES, PRESIDENT, AMATEUR ATHLETIC UNION OP THE UNITED STATES (AAU), ACCOMPANIED BY OLLAN CASSELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; RICHARD W. McARTHUR, PUB. LICITY DIRECTOR; AND ALBERT P. WHELTLE, COUNSEL Mr. Rwsxr.s. We will do both. May we have counsel at the table here, too, please" Mr. OlIAttA. Could you please identify yourself I Mr. WIIELTLE. I am Albert P. Wheltle, b09 Title Building, Bahl- niore. Mr. O'Hmen. Mr. Rivenes, please proceed. (Mr. Itivenes' statement followstj 3,1 AIAILABLiv 29 BEST UV

STATEMENT UP DAVIII HIVENES, PRESIDENT, AMATEUR ATHLETIC UNION of TM: UNITED STATES Since 1958, we have been conducting athletic exchanges with the Soviet Union in several sports under the jurisdiction of the AAU. The first of these exchanges was In wrestling, followed, In that some year, witha tour of a United States basketball squad to the Soviet Union.Perhaps receivingthe widest exposure have been the annual Umetian-American Dual Truck and Field Meets, the first OW of which was held In Moscow during the summer of MS. These exchanges, while held under the joint auspices of the AAU of the United States and its counterpart Inthe Soviet Unionhave always been encouraged and approved by the U.S. Department of Stateas part of a continuing culturalexchange between MINtwo nations. These home-and-home exchangeshave continued during theensuing years, providing excellentinternational competition for the players from bothcoun- tries anddeveloping a healthy rivalryon the athletic held. They have lecluded eompetitions in swimming, diving, anmistic% wrestling, weightlifting, water polo, boxing, trampoline and, of course, track and field and basketball. They have been. Vut sure you will concur, of great benefit not only to sport but to the rela- tionships between our two countries. As part of this continuing exchange, we met last summer during theOlympic in111114 with the International Amateur Basketball Federation, MBA, the world governing hotly for the sport. At that time, the FIBA Central Board approved the 1913 Soviet basketball tour of the United States which had been planned jointly by officials of the AAU and the Basketball Federation of the Soviet Union and that approval was reiterated and reconfirmed by Dr. R. William Jones, Sec. retaryMeneral of MBA bycable thispast weekend. These arethe only organ!. mitfons in their respective countries recognized by PIRAas competent to arrange these international exchanges. This Is so because only one organization in each country is recognized for membership purposes by the international federation and that organization in the United States is the AAU. Some question has arisen an to theresponsibilitiesof the AAU with respect to its status as the governing body, for international purposes. for the sport of basketball in the United States. In that regard a brief recap of recent history is of value. Following the BIOS Olympic Games in January 1909, a FIHA Commission to the United Slides formed, In cooperation with thiscountry's governingbody (tho AAU) and other domestic basketball interests, the International Basket- ball Board (11113), Thepurposeof the 1138 was to npprovu international ex- vintners at the club level and send them on to the AAU for administrative handling. Specifically excluded from the authority of the HID were tuitional teams, which we're the sole responsibility of the governing bodythe AAU. Ad- ditionally, the 111111 constitution of 1970 stated, "Both IOWA and the AAU, as Polk%will not attempt to restrain any person from participating on a national basketball tenni (Article VI-Section or At the' meeting of the FIBA Congress last Fall In Munich, the 11311 was die- solved. We' have, therefore, acted in a legitimate, reasonable and responsible manner with regard to all aspects of the 1973 US-USSR basketball series, We therefore expected that all other interested parties would do likewise. Having established our responsibilities as the international memberof FIIIA and thesanction of the VIM Central Board for the 1973 exchange between the United States and the Soviet Union (under AM/ and USSR Basketball Federn- Bon supervision), the AAU was then charged with fielding the best possible simnel tocompeteagainst the Soviets. 4 There are. of course. qualified restrictions regarding the make-up of our squad. Primnrily, we are restricted to Inviting only amateur basketball players. How- ever, within that context, any player eligible under FIBA and AAU rules will he' considered a candidate for the United States National Team. Nevertheless, In order not to interfere with in-season collegiate competition, we determined that the announcement of selection to the USA team would be delayed until that season ended. Accordingly, we set the date for announcement ofour national team at April 10. It was our hope that this gesture of cooperation would generate a like response from the other legitimate basketball bodies in this (titulary. To a great extent we received that response. The Armed Forces, YMCAs. National Parke and Recreation Association all indicated their support of the 1973 Immkethall exchange. Al Inter, executive director of the National Association BEST COPY AVAILABLE 30

Al intercollegiate AthleticsINAl A eomprised of over 1W colleges anduniversi- ties, stated that the NA1A "would give everycooperation to this series." Unfortunately, one segment of thebusketball community refused to sepport tile tuitional basketball effort of theUnited States, This group announced that any athlete competing at one of itsaffiliated institutions who chose to represent his country in this series would be ruledIneligible. This group chose to subordinate the best Interests of our nationto its own interests, whatever they anybe. Let me reiterate for a moment.The AAU Is the legitimate and only recogulzd representative from the United States tothe body controlling intereational bas- ketball ( Fl BA /. The AM',following the preseribed procedures, met withofficials of the Basketball Federation of theSoviet Union, arranged this 1973 basketball series taut obtained approval fromthe PIRA Central Board on September 5, 1972 in Munich. What has subsequently occurred Isthat the best Interests of our nation have n ot come before the pettyin-fighting that has, unfortunately, characterizedthe relations between the AAU and this groupfor so long. We felt that, In a case o f national interest,the other side would put aside the chancefor further ag- gro udizeutent at our expenseand exhibit a wider vision encompassing whatwould be best fur the sport, the athlete and thenation. Unfortunately, the vision is lacking in thatquarter and so, at present, the image of the United States will apparentlysuffer in order to feed the self in- terest of these few individuals. III the past we have soughtaccommodation with this group. At their instiga- tion, the Senate Commerce Committee.In 1965, appointed the Sports Arbitration Hoard, chaired by Theodore Kheel, Atthe occasion of the naming of the members of the Kheel Commission, thePresident of the NCAA, Mr. Everett Barnes, stated, 1 air group had completeconfidence that the vice-president (Mr. Humphrey) would select a distinguished, unbiasedand competent arbitration board, These selections confirm that confidence and completelysatisfy us." Twenty-five months later, in 1968, the KheelCommission released its report and ii r. Kheel announced a settlementthat he felt was more than generous to the Nt'AA. He was quoted as having said atthat time that he was fearful "the AAU would object to the extent to which wepermitted the `CAA to force its way into the domain the AAU bad governed forthe better part of a century." And, while ove tild object and did feel thatit constituted a signal victory for the NCAA and arbitrarily stripped the MU of many of itstraditional and legal prerogatives, we accepted the findingsof the Kited Commission, This policy was put intoeffect II the AAU and has been In effect on ourside without interruption since February of 1968, And, despite the fact that Senator WarrenMagnuson, Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee. said at the time, "It is thefeeling of my committee, in light of all the circumstances Involved, that we mustconsider the decision of the Board t Kheel commission ) to be itifull force and effect," the NCAA has refused to abide by these &stons, They have, inshort, been openly contemptuous of the Congress and Senate of the United States ofAmerica by refusing to accept anti implement the provisions of the SenateappointedKheel Commission. We would ask these individuals precisely whyat this point they are threatening these athletes with ineligibility. Since thecollegiate season is over there is no interference. They may claim that the concernis for protection of the student athlete, but does it not seem more reasonable that anathlete and his coach are in the better position to determine what is bestfor his welfare? Are these students and coaches not competent judges? We do not, quite frankly, believe that protectingstudent athletes is the main concern of these individuals.We believe that their main concern is to undermine the authority of the legitimate forcesinvolved here and that the athletes over whom they hold this economic club are veryconvenient vehicles for accomplish- ing this end. If this were not the case, we ask,then why did the NCAA not rush to protect these student athletes whenthey competed a few weeks ago against the water polo team of the Soviet Union?If one athlete is worthy of their seem- ingly ubiquitous concern, why not theseWater polo players? Is it because water polo does not carry the prestige of basketball and,hence, offer the NCAA a forum in which to carry on their attack oft theAAU? Ives the inconsistency of the NCAA position strike the gentlemen of this committee as morethan coincidental The question of which body should or should not hare the statusof governing body for Intel national purposes is not nt issue here.However, throughout the present controversy we bare heard representativesfrom the NCAA's national 31 BEST COPY AVAILABLE headquarters In Kansas City lay Oahu to preeminence in this field. Only last week NCAA official Jerry Miles stated, "the AAU wants to use our players". Ile's slightly premature, of course, since the U.S.A. team will not be announced until April 10. Nevertheless, it strikes us as incredibly presumptuous that an official of this body talks in the possessive tubottt athletes whose institutions ore merely affiliated with the NOAA. Stumm% we've heard some of these saute ofileinis Oahu that they own the 11111101c facilities of their member affiliates. It seems mere likely that these tax- supported institutions are owned by the state, and not by these gentlemen resid- ing in Kansas City. This. we IIPIIHVP. hits at one of the basic questions yen, Mr. Chairman, raised in opening these hearings. And that question deals with our respective power over athletes. For our part, we disavow such power. In the instant ease, the NCAA threatens sanctions against any athlete from ate NCA-affiliate who chooses to represent his country in the VS-USSIt basket- ball series. The sanction is obvious. The athlete loses Ids scholarship and is denied I he coneomitant economic benefits whirl( allow him to further his education. And this solely because he ,'houses to wear the colors of his nation in international (limpet it len. Should he choose to compete regardless of loss of scholarship then the dilemma !iputes One fur his Mewl. De they stand behind their athlete and defy that Kansas City office? Yale University did so in lififil in the ease of Jack Langer, a basketball player who competed in the Maccablah Games in Israel. Consequently, for honoring the just decision of Mr. Langer, Yale was placed on probation, denied 11119104 to NCAA post season piny-offs and championships and, with regard to the entelal economic factor, denied the right to appear on television and thus receive the revenues from such appearances. It is clear, then, that the decision of whether or not to play (whether or not to support an athlete who chooses to play) for one's country becomes when the NCAA is involved, considerably more complex than one might have imagined. What sanction has the AAU? We cannot hold an economic club over his head. We cannot threaten the athletic deportment or school with loss of much needed funds. We cannot demand, cajole or dictate. For, gentlemen, in the final analysis we do not have, nor would we want, that sort of absolutist control. We do not own athletesI nor (lo we think, despite Mr. Mlles' statement, does the hmtusus City 'Mee of the NCAAThese athletes are free and independent citizens and, as suet'. should be entitled to make the decisions of free and independent citizens. It is only proper in the United States that the teams representing us be freely chosen and that acceptance or rejection of the honor of playing for our nation be made in an atmosphere equally free of duress and coercion. When the national basketball team of the United States meets its counterparts from the Soviet Union we, as all Americans, would like to see our best players. If these players are free of the economic harassment and intimidation that now hangs over some of them, we will have those players representing all of us. Mr. It ivENES. Since ligis we have been conducting athletic exchanges with the Soviet 1111011 in several sports under the jurisdiction of the .1.1U. The first of these exchangesWiltin wrestling, followed in the 4 saute year with a tour of a U.S. basketball squad to the'Soviet Union. Perhaps receiving; widest exposure have been the annual Russian- American Dual l'rack and Field Meets, the first onetif which was held in Moscow during the summer of WAS. These exchanges, while held under the joint auspices of the .1AU of the United States and its counterpart iu the Soviet Union have always been encouraged and approved by the U.S. Department of State as part of a continuing cul- t urn I exchange between our two nations. These home-and-home exchanges have continued during the ensuing years, providing excellent international competition for the players from both countries and developing a healthy rivalry on the athletic field. They have included competitions in swimming, diving, gymnas- tics. wrestling, weightlifting. water polo, boxing. trampoline and. of course, track and field and basketball. They have been, I am sure you r11.46! 32 will concur. Of great, benefit, not only to sports. but to the relationship between our two countries. As part of this continuing exchange we met last summer duringthe Olympie Games with the International Amateur Basketball Federa- tion. FIBA, the world governing body for the sport. At that time the Fl BA central board approved the 1973 Soviet basketball tour of the roiled states which had been planned jointly by officials of the AAIT and the Basketball Federation of the Soviet Union and that approval was reiterated and reemifirmed by Dr. R. William Jones, secretary- general of VIM lir cable this past weekend. These are the only organizations in their respective countries recog- nised by FIB.% as competent to arrange these international exchanges. This is so bemuse only one organization in each country is recognized for membership purposes by the international federation and that or- gaiiizntion in thelilted States is the AAIT. Some questions has arisen as to the responsibilities of the AAU with respell- to its FtatIM its the governing body, for international purposes. for the sport of basketball in theUnited States. In that regard it !clef rerap of twilit history is of value. Mr. Chairman, with your permission I am going to ask our men- tibe director, 1Ir. 011an Cassell of Indiaimpolis, who himself is a former Olympian, and I believe a gold medalist in Olympic competi- tion and. therefore. much more competent than I, to proceedwith this history. With your permission Tam going to ask him to proceed. 'Then you pan come hack to me. if you would like, with questions. Mr. O'lImc.%. Mr. Cassell. Mr. CAssm.L. Following the 1968 Olympic Gaines in Tanuary 19691 a !MU commission to the United Slatesformed, in cooperation with this country's governing body (the AAU) and other domestic; basketball interests. the International Basketball Board (IP11). The purposes of the hill was to approve internationalevelintigeu at the chili level and send them on to the AAIT for administrative handling. Speeiticallv excluded from the authority of the IBB were national teams, which were the sole responsibility of thegoverning body the AAU. Additionally, the IBB constitution of 1970 states, "Both BM 'SA and the AM% as a policy, will not attempt to restrain any person from participating on a nationalbasketball team. (Article `'I -- Section 6.)" At the meeting of the }MU Congress last fall in Munieh the IBB wits dissolved. We Wee, therefore, acted in alegitimate, reasonable, and responsible manner with regard to all aspects of the 1973 U.S.S.R. basketball seris. 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We W011141 ask these individuals preeisely why. at this point, they are threatening these athletes with ineligibility. Alum the collegiate sea- son is over there is no interferenee. They may claim that the concern is for protection of the student athlete, but dot's it not seem more rea- sonablethat.an athlete and his coach are in the better position to determine what is best for his welfare? Are these students and coaches not competent judges? We do not, quite frankly, believe that protecting studentathleteslA the main concern of these individuals. We believe that their main 4011eN111 is to undermine the authority of the legitimate forces involved here and that the athletes over whom they hold this economic club are very convenient vehicles for accomplishing this end. If this were not the ease, we ask, then why did the NCAA not rush to protect these student. athletes when they competed a few weeksagoagainst the water polo team of the Soviet,Juju!' ? If one athlete is worthy of their seen mgly ubiquitous concern, why not these water polo players? Is it heeause water polo does not carry the prestige of basketball and. hence, otter the NCAA a forum in which to carry on their attack on the AAIT? Does the inconsistency of the NCAA position strike the gen- tlemen of this committee as more than coincidental ? The question of which body should or should not have the status of governing body for international purposes is not at issue here. How- ever, throughout the present controversy we have heard representa- tives from the NCAA's national headquarters in Kansas City lay claim to preeminence in this field, Only last. week NCAA official Jerry Miles stated, "The AAU wants to use our players." Ile is slightly pre- mature, of course, since the 1!.S, team will not be annonneed until April 10. Nevertheless, it strikes us as incredibly presumptuous that an official of this body talks in the possessive about athletes whose institutions arts merely affiliated with the NCAA. loreover, we have heard some of these same officials claim that they own the athletic facilities of their member affiliates. It seems more likely that these tax-supported institutions are owned by the State, and not by these gentlemen residing in Kansas City. This, we believe, hits at one of the basic questions you. Mr. Chair- man, raised in opening these hearings. And that question deals with our respective, power over athletes. For our part we disavow such power. In the instant ease. the NCAA threatens sanctions against any athlete from an NCAA-affiliate who chooses to represent his country in the IT.S.-U.S.S.R. basketball series. The sanction is obvious. The student loses his scholarship and is denied the concomitant economic benefits which allow him to further his education. And this solely be- cause he chooses to wear the colors of his Nation in international competition. 40 1S31 Ad03

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CAssiu.,.. It was the AAU that made the arrangements with the Soviet. Union and that scheduled the competition here in the Uniti2d States. Mr. O'HAm. Now last September the international Basketball Fed- eration adopted a resolution, as 1 understand it, which terminated the life of the 111B but assigned certain tasks to the chairman of the MB until Man+ 31 or something of that nature. There is some question just what the tasks of the elmirman of the 11311 woe. In an:. event they didn't pertain to national teams1 for instance, tht.y did not pertain to the team going to the. Pan-Amerienn games, is that right? And who is responisbie for U.S. representation, the U.S. teams, at the Pan-Ameri- can games? Is it the AAU or some other group Mr. CAssia.1.. Until March 31 the AAU is a. member of FIBA. AAU still holds the international membership until March 31. I think what the MBA central board resolution indicated was that after March 31 that. Mr. Carnevale would continue. Up until that time, up until that point. AAU.is a member ofFII3A.I might indicate that the central board at its meetings in Munich on September 5 approved this ex- clump with the Soviet Union. This is the highest authority in the world in international basket- ball. Mr. O'llAnA. So. in September, which is at. the same time that this resolution was adopted that put the Hilt out of business and called for the formation of a new group, at that same series of meetings the exchange coining up at the end of April was approved? Mr. CASSELL. l'es, sir, there is a telegram in the material that was handed out from Dr. Jones. who is the general secretary of FIBA, which indicates that this exchange is perfectly in order according to the regulations of PIM. Mr. lint:xi:K. Mr. Chairman. the U.S. Olympic Committee reeog- nizes the Amateur Athletic Union as the governing body for basket- ball in the United States, even after March 31 or any date. Mr. OMMIA. So you have submitted for the record a telegram from Dr. Jones, cablegram from Dr. Jones, confirming that. the Soviet basketball team tour is in accordance with PIRA regulations? 111.. Rivxxxs, That's right. Mr. O'HARA. And it is approved by FIBA Mr. Rivi.:Np.s. That's right. Mr. °Vim. Without objection that. cablegram will be entered into the record tit this point. eabkilmun referred to follows:] (Cablegram( AltAVULEVIC INDIANAPOLIg Tone Soviet basketball tenor in USA sponsored by AA1, perfectly in order tic- apording PIRA regtdotloIn4 greeting", dog KN. Mr. RIMER. Could You read that V Mr. OlInnA. It is directed to the American Athletic Union at its cable address in Indiana and it states, Tear Soviet basketball team lit U.S.A. sponsoredbyAAU perfectlyInorder according to PIRA regulations. Greetings. Signed Jones. Dr. Jones. for the purpose of the record, is the Secretary neneral of the International Basketball Federation, is that right? 37

Mr. um:NI:A.11m is carrot Mr. O'Iblt.. Now let me get to a couple of quirk points if I can. The NCAA has taken a position, so 1 read in the paper, that they have never been contacted by you people. There are some top amnteur players who are not involved in the NCAA, but most of them are in- volved in NCA A competition. It seems to me that it. would have been prudent at some time or other to contact the NCAA and enlist their cooperation or make an effort to do so. Did you at any time try to do that. Mr. Cassell ? Mr. CAssEt.t.. No. sir, we did not. We have rondueted these ex- rhanges, as I have indicated. for 14 years. 'Phis has not been the pro - cedure which has been followed in any of the exchanges. We have not selected any players at this point since we have indicated in nor state- ment that. this would not be done April 10. So. none of the organiza- .. turns in the United States have been contacted as to the benefits of this tour at this time because this simply has not been a procedure that was followed for the past 14 years. Mr. 01 imm. Mr. Cassell,. according to the resolution of the Inter- national Basketball Federation, which is the governing baby of the sport worldwide. the MB goes out of business as of September with rertaio residual duties and by March 31, according to that resolution. the V111.1 anticipates and expects that a new U.S. basketball govern- ing body, amateur governing body. will be created. In fact, they even give it a title in their resolution. What is it. the Amateur Basketball Association of the United States, something like that? Now that is a date that is not very far away. It is the end of this month. Would you please report to us what progress has been made? T think if a new group could be formed, that might, solve some of the jurisdictional problems. What progress has ken made in forming that gimp? What has been AATT's role? Mr. CAsszt.t.. At our request the 'U.S. Olympic Committee, the president of the U.S. Olympic Committee, called a meeting on October 9 for a meeting which was supposed to take place on October 27. We felt that this was the first step that should be taken. that some ree- ognized body in the United States which has already made a deci- sion and been comlneting business for a number of years with the organizations in this conntry that have good basketball programs. should make the step, and these were the organizations that should be invited to come to a meeting and sit down and try to settle this. But the NCAA. the High School Federation of Basketball, refused to attend this meeting. That was the first step that, we have taken to try to solve this problem. t our national convention we filliS1104 on December 5. We elected a new basketball chairman. his name is Dr. Frank Spechnlske. director of athlett..s. Montana State Vntversity. Tie has had a private meeting with Ed Steitz on ;Wintry 9. These are the steps that we have token to try to route to some understanding and to form this new organi- zation. qtrIVIT.ttu. Do T understand that Mr. Fagan of the high school association called n similar meeting on his own initiative. Did the A trport iripute in that meeting? Mr. CAsszt.t.. Not we did mt. Tie called his meeting on October 13. This wits sorb a short notice our people were not able to attend. " The seeoncl meet ing he called was on December ti and7, which MIS onlydays after our national convention, which tookplace in Kansas City. Mr. O'Hara. In other words, here is this FIRAdirective to all groups involved in amateurbasketball in the United States that they must form a nee ;Toni) on March 31.What we have had, in essence, is a sort of continuation of the functionaldivision of amateur basket. ball groups. Two efforts have been made to call meetings, onemeeting not attended by some and another meeting not attended byothers. So that so far yon and the NCA.A, which areimportant parties to this dispute, have not sat down in the same room with respect to theformation of it new amateur basketballassociation, is that right? Mr. Ilivms. Mr. Chairman, we felt that the U.S.Olympic Com- mittee, which certainly is completely interested ininternational com- petition, both Pan-American and Olympic cotnpetitution, thatthis was certainly a proper organization toall such a meeting. We asked when say "we," I happen to serve also onthe U.S. Olympic Com- mittee and the USOC did call such a meeting and this was the meet- ing that, we thought. had stature, and even though theAAU is still recognized as the governing body for the sport in the UnitedStates, Ire still felt it, was the USOCthat should call such it meeting. This was the one that we felt had the properstature for solving any problems. Mr. O'ITARA. We will ask the NCAA about, that. In any event.there have been two efforts to call meetings under the auspices ofdifferent, groups. lmt on no occasion at anyof these meetings have the AAU NCAA been in the same room to try to assist in the creationof this organization? Mr, 11111:NMThat is correct, Mr. O'HAitA. Mr. Dellenback, do you have any questions? Mr. DELLENnArx. Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank yon very much. Let me lead off with a word of compliment to the AAU, not neces- sarily for the particular situation with which we are faced, but forthe tremendous contributionsthat the AAU has made from its beginning and inthe march of the years in connection with amateur athletics in the United States. I think you deserve to be commended on your open- ingparagraphs. Mr. Rivenes,touching on a number of sports in which the AM` has been involved.think it is something for which this country should justly be grateful. Mr.RWENES. Thank you. DELLENBAOR.So faras the issues before us areconcerned, weare fully aware of the fact that in the host,of amateur athletic competi- tionsthat exist in the Olympic games there is somewhat of a variant ---I was going to say a crazy quilt patternas to who controls, patternIn one sport we know the AAIT willbe preeminent. and in some other area somebody else will bepreeminent. It varies with individual sports. While the Olympic Committee has certain overall responsibilities, it is not true that any one organization has universal controloverall amateur sports, certainly so far as the Olympic games areconcerned; is that not correct? Mr. limns. That is correct. 39

Mr. DE1414}INDACK. Now to this question of basketball, which isbefore us. As I indicated in my opening statement,I am concerned about the basic question of education because that certainly is the responsibility of this committee. We may be deeply concerned about national prestige, about many other things, about the Olympic games, but at the moment the thrust of these hearings is a result of our concern and responsi- bility as members of the Higher Education Subcommittee of the House Committee on Education and Labor. You made reference, Mr. Cassell, to the highest authority in basket- . ball. I was not quite sure whether you were referring to VIDA or the International Olympic Committee. Mr. CASSUI« I was referring to FIBA. Mr. DELLENSACK. Then the August 24 resolution of FIBA is a, reso- lution that you accept as the resolution that pertains to the issue be- fore us, a resolution of the body that has principal responsibility in this area; is that correct? Mr. CASSELL. Yes. Mr. Mummy% The resolution was an August 24,1972, resolution. Thus it goes back a number of months. It called for certain action. Did you feel that the AAU, so far as it was concerned about basket- ball. had any sort of responsibility to comply with the thrust of that resolut ion Mr. CASSELL. Yes, sir; we did. Mr. DELLENBACK. If, then, that is the case, was it not true that under that resolution the president of the IBB was given certain responsi- bilities? Is that not correct? Mr. CASSELL Yes, sir; after March 31. Mr. DELLIMACK. Were the meetings called between August 24 and the present date called under the authority of that resolution or not? I refer particularly to the meeting called by Mr. Carnevale. Were there not certain meetings that were called by the president of the Inter- national Basketball Board of the United States who was asked to serve as coordinator of these efforts? Mr. CAssztt. Sir, I don't think any particular person was directed to call meetings here in the United States to solve the situation. That is one of the reasons we asked USOC to call the October 9 meeting, because we felt if AAU called the meeting that the other side would not attend. We felt if the other side had railed the meeting, that many of our people would not attend. So, we were looking for an organiza- tion or a body that seemed to stand in the middle and that both our organization and the other organization would have respect for. That was the primary reason we asked the U.S. Olympic Commit- tee to rail the October 9 meeting. At that meeting the NCAA was in- vited, the National Junior College Association was invited, as well as the National High School Association. Mr. Dr.t.r.Exis.wic. The reason that the AAU did not participate in the meeting or meetings called by the president of the IUD Board of the 'United States, and this I understand is Mr. Ben Carnevale, was not because there was aconflict, but because you were not pre- pared to accept his authority to call such a meeting/ Mr. (Imam. No. sir. We surveed our people to see if they could at- tend a meeting and they wereallycommitted to previous engagements. 40

Mr. 1434,r,sit.wit. I tun always troubled by this kindof thing, Mr. Cassell, because so far at least as the second meeting isconcerned, you have indicated it was after youhad concluded .our meetingin December, Was that notcorrect? So there was no aireet conflict in time. Mr.CAsszt.L. Other than our convention finished onDecember t and there were an innumenible number of informationitems and accomplishments that hail to be taken care of by our people. Mr. Demzxnat.K. 1 don't imam' with you on that. Thatis your announced reason.Ialways recognize that what we are wrestling with in that kind of thing, whether we are dealing with it asindividuals or officials, is that we are really talkingpriorities. We could say right now that you and I havethis responsibility and must be here; and vet if something arose that was of higherpriority, and you would have to establish for Yourselves what that is, this would give way to that in spite of your liigh commitment. What ,youare saying isthat the priority of that called meeting ins of such a nature thatit was lower than other things that a host of people hadto do. Iassumed if you had wanted todo so,you could have had your president, yourself in your capacity} your counsel, your publicity director, you have have had some official of the AMY there if vonhad deemed it sufficiently important. But you deckled it was not.it is not upto me. to decide If it should or should not be,but it is it fact you did not have representatives at that meeting. In the event that by April 1 there is no resolution ofthis dispute, do I understand correctly that, under the terms of the MBA resolu- tion of August the responsibility is expected to becomethat of the international basketball committeeof the United States; isthat correct? Mr.CASSELL.Yes. Mr. DELLENDACK. Who is the international basketballcommitteeof the United States? Mr.CASSELL.The i.S. Olympic Committee recognized AAP as the governing body. Mr.DELLENDAOK.In the event there is no resolution of this con- troversy at the end of this month, theball will be in your court and youwill have responsibility through your committee to go forward with whatever is done in basketball. Am I correct in saying that ? And again I don't mean to impute motive, but if we go through the end of March without anythin having been done hi the way of the creation of any new organization, you have control after that time. Is that. right? Mr. RIVENE8. That is correct. Mr.DELLENRACKWhich would put intense pressureagain I don't mean to impute motives to you, but it looksobjectively as if it is a natural for you to go into a stallwhether we are in a 2- minute stall or 4-minute stall or 27-minute stall or how many daysstall you want to go tobecause if nothing happens by the end of this month, you have the ball. Is that not correct? Mr. %VENN& That is correct. Mr.DELLENBACHsI don't mean that is the reason why you did not cooperate, butthat isthe result of this particular situation. Mr.CASSELL. Imight say that would only be for the Olympic games, pan-American games and world championihips.

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Mr. DELLENnAch. Let me just conclude with a question because there are other members of the committee and there are also other witnesses. Do you think the Congress ought to legislate in this field to resolve this controversy ? Mr. Timms. Personally I don't think so. I am sure not, because in international sports the international groups all frown on government intervention in sports. They all feel, and espeeially in the International Olympic Committee, that there should be no intervention on the part of governments, no politics in sports. Mr. Mut:Nitwit. Let me indicate my own personal feeling in this regard. I agree: I personally am very reluctant to see us legislate. But let me say the longer this issue remains unresolved and this kind of exasperating sword remains before us, that is the kind of thing that causes some of us to feel we have no alternative but to legislate. It causes menders of the public to put pressure on their elected repre- sentut ives in the government, to do something about it. The pressure is on us to move. Some of us are deeply concerned that this issue is being fought as it is. and I don't think anybody's hands are completely clean On this. I would close by asking you if you have a resolution for us? Do you have a suggestion that you would make as to what ought to hap- pen under these circumstances? Mr. litviixEs. We are still willing to abide by the decisions of the Kheel Committee which was organized for this particular pArpose. Mr. DELLEMIACK. Is it possible to break the problem into two to leave the long-run problem to be resolved under some such suggestion as you have made and to solve this local problem of what to do about this tour in different ways, or must they all be part of the same package? Mr. CASSELL. Sir, the Kheel agreement, in effect, left college athletics with the various institutions that have an interest. For instance, NCAA for the institutions that are affiliated with them, NAIA for orga- nizations affiliated with them, and the open or international competi- tion was with the AMT. This is, in effect, what the Kheel Commis- sion did. It seems to us that that is a sensible and fair resolution. Mr. DzuaxnAcx. So instead of resolving this problem of the mo- ment in a unique ad hoc manner. you would feel that this particular sit- uation should fit under that fabric, under the general procedure you have outlined. and that is the single way to handle both the long-run and short-run problem; is that correct? Mr. CASSEU.. Yes, sir. Me. I WJJ xnAcx. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. OMAHA. Mr. Kemp. Mr. KEMP, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Iwould like to reiterate what my colleague, Mr. 1)ellenback, said, that I think all of us deplore not only the problem, but the fact that the ITS. Congress at some point will have to enter the dispute if, in fact, we can't get together and resolve thii problem. This is true not only in amateur athletics, but also professiinal athletics. To that end I congratulate the chairman and thank him for providing a catalyst that might indeed bring von together with the other party in hopes of resolving this very difficult question.

47 42 on mentioned in your 'testimony Mr. Cassell, that you have 00 economic SS' 'Cons over the athlete. is that true Mr. CAssE J.. Yes, sir. Mr. KEMP. And you want none ? Mr. Cassztx. No, sir. Mr. KEMP. What legal authority would the NCAA have in using their economic sanctions, taking away a scholarship or other particular sanctions? Mr. CASSELL. I think that is the type of sanction that they would have, take away a scholarship. Mr. KEMP. Under what. authority ? Mr. CASSELL. It would be under the rules and regulations. I sup- pose, that have been made by the National Collegiate Athletic Asso- ciation. That is something probably that you should ask-- Mr. KEMP. I wanted your conceptual view as to what type of eco- nomic sanction or under what authority those economic sanctions could be instituted by the NCAA. Mr. Cum'. That would be something that they could probably an- swer better than I. I am not that familiar withNCAA's constitution, I), laws and operations. Mr. Km.. What is the selection process? Hypothetically if this were resolved and there were some agreement about the game and its con - tinuation, what would be the process by which the athletes them- selves were chosen ? Mr. CASSELL. Our National Basketball Committee would select 13 or 20 of the best basketball players in the country and take them to a training camp and at the conclusion of the training camp we would put together a nucleus of a national team of 8 to 10 players that would then play the Soviet team across the country. Mr. KEMP. What about the coaches? Mr. CASSELL. We would also attempt to get the best coaches avail. able in the country to coach the team. The athletes at the training camp would certainly be under the direction of the coaches that were going to coach the team. Mr. RIVENES. The conch would have mach to say about the selection of his players, too. Mr. Kntr. Would the coaches be selected first Mr. RIMER. Yes, sir. Mr. KEMP. They would pick the athletes? Mr. RivrxEs. He would assist in it. Mr. Kote. Talking about that date of March 81, have you had any communications with the NCAA as to attempts to resolve this dis- pute among yourselves rather than relying on an outside body sorb as the Congress? Mr. CASSELL. The FMA resolution mills for the AATT and IIFITSA to get. together. As I indicated before, our National Basketball Tourna- ment that was elected at Kansas City at our convention, Mr. Frank Speehalske had a confidential meeting' with Dr. Steitz on January 9. It was at his request, at Dr. Speehalske's request, that. this meeting was held. Mr. KEMP. You mentioned earlier, in response to a question, that for the last 14 years you have been holding events in which, up until this time, the NCAA had not intervened in, or am I taking too much out of context I 43 Mr. CAssEi.i.. For the past .4 or 15 years we have had these ex- changes with the Soviet Union, The first one started in 19S. until this time we haven't had any difficulty with the NCAA in basketball. We have fielded resimnsible teams teams that hive been competitive, and this is the first year we have sort. of run into this situation. Mr. Kinte. When you say no difficulty between you and the \CAA, did you have any communications? Dia you relay to them certain in- formation that was necessary for the game to take place or was there any discussion between the two parties regaritur thecontest.? Mr. (Asir.. It was never necessary to let them know that this tour was going on. Mr. KEMP. So there was never any attempt to bring in the NCAA nor did they impose themselves on the selection process up until this year? Mr. Itivioms. There was no reason to contact them. In fart, there A have always been NCAA representatives on the AAIT Basketball Committee and also on the U.S. Olympic Basketball Committee. Mr. KEMP. Until this year? Mr. RivExs. Yes. I might point out that we have also had competi- tion for many years. exchanges in other sports. too, in which there has been no difficulty whatsoever. These are some of them, NCAA sports, for example. Just recently in the last couple of weeks the Russians' water polo team was here for a series of games. They played directly against. college NCAA teams and there is no question about it at all, 110 difficulties. We have had exchanges and still do in wrestling, in boxing. in many sports. No problem. Track and field, too, of course. Mr. Kr.str. What makes von think that this dispute is taking place at this particular time? Why do you think this is taking place? 'Jr. Rivr.xrs. Personally I don't know because there is no reason for it so far as I can see. Things are just the same as they were before in the past 14 years. Would von agree with that, Mr. Cassell? Mr. CASSELL. I think that is spelled out in our statement, our rea- sons and our feeling why this particular action is being taken at this time. Mr. Km% Why don't. yon just go over it very briefly, Don't. rend the statement. but just. give me in your own words why you feel nt this time this is taking pkee, recognizing, of course, that there has been a dispute for a number of years? Mr. CAssr.t.L. It. is basically we feel to embarrass the recognized an thorities in the United States that have been carrying on these pro- grams for a number of years. Mr. KMP. It. is the athletes themselves who are certainly coming out on the short end of this dispute.. What in your view is happening to the athletes who see this dispute taking place in the higher echelons? How do von think they view it.? Sir. CARRELL I think the athletes are a hit confused as to exactly what is going on, and they have been for a number of years, although we recognize this as an attempt by an organization in the United States to disrupt whoever has international membership, whoever holds inter- national membership in these different international organizations. Mr. Rtvkxr.s, I might point. out in the selection of the 15-man squad or whatever it is, that certainly there will be some NCAA athletes in- vited to take part. They can, of course, refuse to play and decide not- - 20--T211- 74 ---.t 4" 44 maybe for family mounts or erommic masonsdecide that they can't accept. but they will certainly, if they are in the eves of the committee and the coaching stud' the top ones. Then they will be invited regardless of whether they are an NCAA school, NAIA, Armed Forces, whatevei they are. They will have to decide for themselves whether they can ac- cept the invitation to play. I am sure almost all of them, as Mr. Duer stated earlier, they con- tacted 12 NAIA athletes and presidents of their schools and all but one were very happy to accept. Mr. CAsszt.i.. Being an athlete myself. for 13-odd years in track and field, what. they are interested in is getting into competition and play- ing. Actually they are really not concerned about who has authority or who doesn't have authority. It is my own personal feeling and opinion that if there were no boycott or no threats, you would get 99 percent of the ones who were asked to be on the team. Mr. KEMP. I imagine that is true. It is a tremendous honor to par- ticipate. I think certainly the focus of attention alone would compel someone to want to participate. I think athletes are concerned, deeply concerned. I have talked to a number of them. It is true theyare not totally concerned about who is going to have ultimate jurisdiction, but I think they are deeply interested in making sure that there is a reso- lution of this problem. Recognizing that both you and the executive director of the NCAA, who is going to be with us as a witness are in Washington today. Are von prepared to meet with theni on an informal basis today, tomorrow, in Washington, anyplace? Has anything been conveyed to the NCAA from your offices as to the possibility of getting together on an ad hoc basis? Mr. RivEYT 4. Yes; I think we ulitld be willing to meet with them today or juE about any time that didn't interfere with other commit- ments. Yes; we would be very happy to meet. Mr. CAsSELL. I might say, Mr. Kemp, we have made repeated attempts to have NCAA come to our meetings and be represented. As a matter of fact, we invited Walter Byers, the executive director of NCAA, to be a speaker at our national convention when itwas in Kansas City during the latter part of November. Mr. KEMP. Did he do it.? Mr. CASSELL. No. Mr. KEMP. Again, the athletes are the ones who are being unduly punished. I think it is incumbent upon you and the NCAA to resolve this uncertainty before March 31. Mr. Chairman. I thank von for bringing together this committee to at least provide hopefully, a catalyst toward that end. Mr. O'HAHA. Thank you, Mr. Kemp, for your contribution. Mr. Huber, do you have any questions you would like to direct to the witness? Mr. Hymn. Yes: just one. I understood one of the gentlemen to testify that the NCAA had members that served on the AALT board, the basketball group; is that right? Mr. IIIVENES. Have had in the past. Mr. IftREIL Always in the past except this year? Mr. CASSELL. There are some college coaches that are members of mu' National Basketball Committee at this time, although they are not placed there directly by NCAA. so 45 Mr. 1 intim lit the past was this a policy that you hadfollowed to invite members of the NC.tA to serve on yourboard? Mr. CASSELL. Yes, sir; in the past we have invited them to serve on our National Basketball Committee aswell as our executive committee. Mr. ItraEtt. Was that invitation extended to NCAA or toparticular members yo.t particularly wanted to serve? Mr. CAssEt.t.. It was extended to MIA.% as anorganization. .1r. I 111SER. Did they take action as an organization toplace men on your board? Mr. CAssm. In the past, in past years they have. Mr. ILVDER. As tut organization? Mr. CASSELL. As an organization, yes. Mr. IirBER. They were invited to do that, this yearand haven't; they declined? Mr. CAssmr.r.. They were invited to do this that yearby letter and there was no response. Mr. lIntxt:. This is the first year they have notanswered your letters Mr. CASSELL. No; this is not the first year. Idon't remember the exact year. but this must have been since 1961and 1902. Mr. TIMER, At that time did they indicatethey were no longer interested in serving on your board when theydeclined? Mr. CAssEr.L. I think that is correct, sir. Iwould have to go back and find the exact correspondence. AIN WISER. DO you remember what the reason waswhy they didn't want to participate at that time? Mr. IhVENF I don't recall exactly if any reason wasstated. But there have been, even since then, individualswho were the board of directors-- - Mr. Warn. I wondered if they had adopted apolicy at some time that. they were no o longer going to participatewith you jointly. Mr. IIIVENEA. I would like to point out to you.Mr. Huber, that in the structure of the sports committees in theGAIT there have always been blank spots, four or five blank spots onthe committees for both the NCAA and also the NAIA, and theNAIA does choose to go to those spots and they attend our meetingsregularly and the NCAA always Intd the same right. We are glad to have them. Mr. Wan. Thank you. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you. Let me get in one more question so that we canget the answer on the record. It, has been suggested by somecynics that the fight is about power and prestige between the twoorganizations. It has even been suggested thatthe fight is about money and that there are considerable financial rewards associated withthis tour, at least there might. be this year when interest has beenstimulated by, of course, the events at the Olympic games last summer. Could von tell us whit are the financial arrangementsfor this forth- coming soviet basketball team tour? Mr. CAssm. As von gentlemen know,the Amateur Athletic ITnion is a nonprofit organization, se any of thefunds that are received from any of the competitionsthat are arranged by AATT orthrough AM' go back into the sport. Thefinancial arrangements that have been made 40 at this point are that we11111Veight different sponsors across the milit- ary that are prepared to sponsor one of these games in their city. Me have asked for a contribution of 0,000 front each one of them to help offset the expenses of the Russiato team when they come here as well as the American squad that will finally be put togetherand participate against them. So the advanced funds would be used for the training camp and for the selection of a team, for paying the expenses of the Russian temp as they travel across the country and their room andhotted. In addi- tion to that, we have asked that we share with each of the sponsors; we receive 50 percent of the net, and the sponsors receive 50 percent of the net. I might indicate in each of the places where there is a sponsor. these organizations, with the exception of one, are also not for profit organizations that are sponsoring these Raines different cities. Mr. 01lAnA.Do you have any television agreement? What Aries that provide f Mr.CAsset.t..Yes: we have one game that. will appear on television. It will appear on CBS national network, The AAU is receiving $35.000 for that game. The reason that the price Is so high, you might say. is that in the beginning we were only receiving $10,060 for it, but the Los Angeles Times is sponsoring that game in Los Angeles. They were asked to move the game to a 12 :80 start in Los Angeles. When that request was made, the Los Angeles Times felt that with the 12 :80 start they would not be able to have sufficient paid attendance to pay the bill to meet the expenses. That was the figure that the Los Angeles Times placed on this game from television revenues. Mr.O'HARA,That will be $35,000 that will go to the AAIT; is that right? Mr.CASSELL.No. This money that comes from television will go into what we call our common income with the gate receipts and so forth at the Los Angeles Times. Mr.CrIIARAFor a 50-50 split then ? Mr.CASSELL.Yes. The expenses will come off the top. The expenses of the arena, the expenses that the Los Angeles Times has and AAU lats, and then there will be a 50-50 split after that. Mr.O'HARA.The AM? will use the Vroceeds of this tour to finance its activities. Just in basketball or all of its activities? Mr.CASSELL.Mainly this year it will be in basketball. Since the AATT is the type of organization that it is, we sort of haveitcommon fund that we help out all our sports with. That is one of the reasons we feel that the international picture has grown to the point that it has in the united States in some of the other sports. For installer, in judo, in boxing, in some of the sports that the colleges are not con- rented with at all. This year the international program that our people have set forth comes to about $149.000. The funds that are received from this trip will go bark into basketball directly. Mr. What are some of the things you plan to finance with that $149,000? Clive us a few examples. Mr.CASSELL.We will be sending a team to the First World Basket- ball Festival in Limn. We will be also sending a cadet team or a team of youngsters to Europe for four or five games. There is the Seventh International Cup in Salo Paulo, Brazil. The First Basketball Festival 47 in Peru is altifi MOW 11 I%VI/111011$ teall1S. is an independence Day tournament in Silo l'anlo, Wu/A, wehare been 111%1(1 to send a team to. We are in the process of planning aninternational coaches and vials Arnie which will take lace this year to familiarizethe coaches and the officials in the United States withinternational rules. of ccurre.Siill' this is 11 11011W-I0-11Ialle series with the Soviet I 7111011. we always hold in escrowsolliient amounts of money to get our team back over to the Soviet riti4m in 1974 to continuethis home-and-home series. fir. 0.1 tAnA. Thank yon. Mr. Dellenback? Mr. 1 n:i.i.Exn.wic. 1 f I may very briefly. Mr. Cassell, you referred to theKheel Report. T have a copy of the A 144itration Mani reisot hem Is it. 1114 trill' that theKiwi Ironed was basically set up to dealwith track and field? Mr. CAssm.t.. That's right. sir. Mr. 1 41.1.Exawn. So there is no such agreement. under Wipe'that would deal with basketball. Mr. CAssr.m.. NO. there isn't but the same correlationis there in basketball that exists in track and field. Mr. Dmitxmcn. So that my thinking will be clear, von arenot here talking about adhering to something which isestablished and which is not being con 101111441 to by NCAA or anybodyelse, but you are talking about taking itKlwel-type agreement and moving it over into a new field when. it was lint originally Set up tobe? Mr. CAssm.t.. The Kiwi.] doeument as the way we read it and asthe way .Mr. Kheel reads it nowis not being followed by the NCAA. Mr. 1 43.1.zximen. Are we talking about track and field orbasket- ball ? Mr. CAssmi.. No. sir. we are talking about. basketball. Mr. DELLENftArli. Now tin. Kheel Report is the testament,referring to track and field? Mr. CAsszt.b. Yes, sir. Mt also in Mr. Icheers statement hesaid it should be used as it model for other sports as well. Mr. Dri.i.zxn.wIC. MO' I ask briefly this? Do you plan to goahead with the plans as you have set them ll? Are you still considering alternatives or are you marching inexorably ahead ! Mr. CASSELL. We are considering every aspect. Certainly welook forward to Basin a good series and to having a good team participate. Mr. Dzi.t.Extmen. Mr. Lehman in making continent earlier touched. on the possibility of going into local areas. Tigre youconsidered going to 1 TLA or North l!arolina, State or Minnesota, orMarquette or Long Dolph State or anybody along the line and playing individual teams at the top of the list? Mr. CAssr.m. That is a possibility and it is something that we would certainly take bark to our basketball people, and consider. Prom the experience.experictw we have had, when the Soviet Union brings their interim. timid team here. we feel we should put a similar team on the floor. Me. Dr.t.i.zsmen. Is there any concern at all in your minds that in 10 days from the 10th of .1pri1 to the 2.0th, when the first game is scheduled. that there will be any difficulty in 10 clays welding stars together into a single top-rate competitor? rzn 48 Mr. CAsszt.t.. That Ions normally been the period of time that we have used, 10 days to 2 weeks, as a training camp in putting the team together. With the experience that the basketball people halve. and as murk as they play, 1 think the coaches will be able to putthem into a well-oiled team in a 10 to 14 days' period of time. Mr. DELLENIMCK. We only have 10 days ruder your schedule ? M r. CAsszt4.. Yes, sir. Mr. DELLEX BACK. 1111111k you Mr. Chairman. Mr. VI lAnA. Mr. Kemp. Mr. Kzur. How was the proposed television package put together? Did ('ItS COMP to the AAIT or did yon go to CBS and how did the Russian team figure into itCan von relate that information to me? Mr. CAssELL The AMT has larch now foryears a series of televi- sion events with CBS. This will be one of the games or one of the events in this television series that we have with CBS. M KEEP. Who decided that. CBS or AA I.' Mr. CAsszi.i.. We present certain events to CBS and CBS decides which ones they wonld like to put on the particular. show. Mr. Kzme. So yon, in fart, presented to ('ItS as part of this on- going sports programing the idea of this basketball game? Mr. CAsszt.L. Yes. We present all our championships and all the international events we compete in to ('ItS. Some of them they like and SOW of them they don't. This is our that they liked. Mr. limns. Mr. hemp. in our television package we feel that the less popular sports in the United States also deserve coverage and in sot attempt to popularize them and in an attempt to improve our international status in such sports. we have asked some of the other sports, so-called independent federations. if they wonld like to take part in the AAIT television package. They, of course, were delighted been use they needed that exposure. So, we have had, for example. figure skating, we have had hockey, track and field, water polo, ski flying. skiing, gymnastics. Mr. Kole. Let me interrupt you to make Inv final point. The dispute obviously is over your authority to set up this particular game. Were you not suggesting that your authority haul evolved throughout. the 14 previous years? What makes this different from those previous 14 years, the television package, for instance? Mr. CAsszt.t.. No: we have had the television for 5 years, as I in Pitted. We could delete this game from the television series and CBS would continue to put our events on their show. Mr. 'livens. I inn sure the Amerkah pohlie wants to see the basket- ball game. however. Alt Kinte. No further questions. Mr. Chairman. Mr. um,. Thank you very melt. Gentleman, what I would like to do if it. is at all possible for von to do this, I would like to excuse yon at this time. I would appreciate it if you would remnin in the room ill rust' some. other question may arise that the committee would like to direct to yon. Could you do that ? Mr. limns. We will he very happy to. Thank you for having its here. Mr. O'HARA. Without objection, there will be printed at this point a letter. dated November 15, 1971 fromMessrs. I'ight and Oiegen- gnek of A Al T to Senator Magnuson. [The letter referred to follov..s 40

AMATEUR, ATIILWrIO UNIOS OW TUE UNITED STATES, DM, Indianapolis, Ind., November 1.7, 1071. The Honorable Watutza MA (mews, Chairman, Committee on Commerce, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C. DEAR SENAToR MAONUSON AAU president Jack Kelly has referred your letter of October :2,1971 to our respective offices for reply. We are sure that Mr. Kelly explained that because of the function of our committee as a virtually auto- nomous body within the AAU, it might be more relevant for us to review the successes and failures with regard to the implementation of the Sports Arbitra- tion Board's report to the United States Senate Commerce Committee. We think it pertinent, in this regard, to briefly trace the history of the dispute between the Amateur Athletic Union (AAU) of the United States and the other sports bodies to which you referred. In the early and mid -19We, the feuding between the bodies involved in the conduct of the sport of track and field In this country became so bitter as to threaten the very survival of that sport. At the specific request of the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the United States Track and Field Federa- tion, the Senate of the United States appointed an Arbitratiop Panel known as the Sports Arbitration Board and chaired by the eminent Mr. Theodore H. Kheel. Following twenty-five (25) months deliberation, the Sports Arbitration Board arrived at a settlement which Mr. Kheel felt was more than generous to the NCAA and its track group. He was quoted as having said at the time that he was fearful "the AAU would object to the extent to which we had permitted the NCAA to force its way Into the domain the AAU had governed for the better part of the century." (New York Times, Friday, November 8, 1968). We did object; we did feel that It "constituted a signal victory 'for the NCAA and arbitrarily stripped the AAU of many of its traditional and legal preroga- tives." (Robert Glegengack, Re-statement of Position and Projection of Policy by the Men's Track and Field Committee of the Amateur Athletic Union of the V.S. vis-a-vis the NCAA). For some eightyoiw 181years. since its foundinghi 1888, the AAU had made as a requisite for any sanction the agreement that AAI1 sanction, and AAU sanction alone, would be used for athletic event. However. In order to implement the Kheel Agreement. the AAU for the first time agreed to permit dual sanctioning in order to facilitate cooperation between itself and the other groups interested in the sport of track and field. This policy decision has been in effect, without interruption, since February, 11168. It was not the AAU that announced the demand for governmental intervention in this dispute; it was not the AAU that threatened the total disruption of our national athletic program ; it was not the AAU that railed upon the gentlemen of the Arbitration Panel to sacrifice twenty-five (25) months of deliberation. It was the United States Track and Field Federation. And, having made these demands and threats the federation has, to this date, refused to abide by the decision of the Sports Arbitration Board. despite the fact that Mr. Kheel stated upon the completion of the report, "This is a final decision in an arbitration matter which is final and binding.. ." (Sports Arid- truth's Board Report. Hearing Before the Committee on Commerce United Motets Senate 90th Congress Second Session on the opinion and decigion of the Board of Arbitration on Track and Field.) And. you yourself stated, Senator, as the Chairman of the Senate Commeree committee, when it became apparent that the USTFF was stalling in theac- ceptance of the report that, "It is the feeling of my committee, in light of all the circumstances involved, that we must consider the decision of the board to be in full force and effect ., ." (Associated Press story) While the nation's press and other interested parties to this dispute condemned the USTFF for its failure to accept the report, it does not change the fact that the solution upon which we had based our hopes fur peace in his matter has fallen short of its promise, solely because the USTFF has steadfastly refused to accept any solution which does not give it complete control over track and field in this country. We at the AAU charge that the real intent then, and now, behind this federa- lion is to usurp the power and prerogatives of the AAU domestically and inter- nationally, The USTFF was prepared then, and is obviously prepared now, to use any method possible to achieve this end. They have tried to use the athlete, the spectator, the Renate of the United States and the designated Sports Arbitration Hoard to achieve this end. They have been openly creubstnptuotts of

r Vt..) 50 the findings of this Board, of the Board Itself and of the Congress and Senate of the tutted States of America which authorized that some deelsionbe made regarding this matter. We do not wish now to restate our stand on the issues that confronted the Spurts Arbitration Board. We felt that the make-up of the panel wassuch as to render a fair decision based upon the facts. The NCAA, too, was quiteexplicit about its satisfaction with the make-up of the Board. on the occasion of the appointment of this Board, the president of the NCAA, Mr. Everett Barnes, :doted, "Our group had complete confidence that the vice-president would select a distinguished, unbiased and competent arbitrationboard. These selections eon- firm that confidence and completely satisfy us."(Stenographic Transcript, Press iNniference of Vice-President Hubert II. Humphrey, Washington, D.C,, December 14,1005) The question remains, of course, why did the MVP refuse to accept the bind- ing decision of the Board? We would like to review briefly the decisions of the Sports Arbitration Board. Von will recall that one of the major areas of disagreement between the AAU and the federation was over the question of sanctioning. tour Board made the decision that in strictly "closed" competition, the MVP would be allowed to conduct competition without AAU sanction; but that In meets declared "open", that is involving other than "students" as defined by the Sp its Arbitration Beard, the federation would be required to apply for sanction from the AAU, based upon the AAU's position as the governing body for the sport iu the United States fur international purposes. We did not agree entirely, but as we said at the time. "Neither pride nor selfish interest has prevented us from this generous solution", and we permitted dual sanctioning. (Robert Oiegengack, op. cit.) What Ines happened, as a remelt, is this: The USTPF has continued, in open defiance of the findings of the Hoard, to conduct "open" competitions without ladiention fur AAU sanction. Thus, not only have they exhibited contempt for the arbitration agreement, but they have placed in jeopardy the amateur stand- ing of those "open" athletes competing lu their illegal meets. Already they have been responsible for the possible loss of one world record for an athlete for whom they purported to speak, (Syndicated column by Red Smith, attached) Additionally, rather than openly announce to athletes entering their meets that they were in conflict with International rules, the federation used subter- fuge and deceit. Many athletes entered the federation meets under the belief, implicit in the entry blanks for federation meets which ask for an AAU registration number or card as proof of amateur standing, that the meet was Nfillethollea by the IAAF representative (the AAU of the U.S.) and was therefore a legititnnte meet. (See attached entry blank for 1971,USTFF meet), Subse- quently, many wrote to the AMY expressing surprise that the sanctioning dis- pute had once again broken out, since they went under the impression that the tieelsioo of the Sports Arbitration Hoard had settled the issue In 1908, (See attar/if d letter from Oklahoma athlete hart Locke, September 1, 1971) There are pertinent adjuncts to this question of sanctioning. Rarely in the course of its short existence has the USTIPP applied to the AAU for sanction, even after they were formally bound to do so Its a result of the decision of the Sports Arbitration Board. Therefore. all such meets involving "open" athletes including the ninny indoor, outdoor and cross country meets sponsored by the !NM' since the Sports Arbitration Board decision was handed down in M are in violation of the spirit and law of the IAAF and as such, the ANT, as the member-representative In the United States, would be well within its legal bounds to suspend athletes involved in such meets. Since the dye's:ion was passed down by the Sports Arbitration Board, we have refrained from any such action, feeling that it is the USTFF that deserves the criticism for its total disregard of the athletes welfare. We do not wish to become a party to the oftused USTFF tactic of hiding behind the athlete and allowing him to take the blunt of the punishment. Another related point in sanctioning --the AAU was never required to permit dual sanctioning of its meets by the USTFF. However, over the past two years we have applied and used the sanction of this federation to avoid furtherI nter nut injuries to the nation's track and field program. We realise that, despite the Wilted costs of the Affliction, we would better preserve the penes by utilising their arbitrary approval. Addltiomdly, with regard to the question of sanctioning, the USTFF is the only track group in this country that refuses to appl, for AAU sanctioning of .1

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-open" meets or VVPII1N.:yell the SCA& with whom this dispute originally started, complies with these provisions as they relate to AAUsaution. See attnehed =feria' on MTh NCAA Indoor Meet. Detroit, Michigan) The pervasive attitude of distrust that exists between the AAU andthe UsTry is due, In part, to the litter's disregard of reality in its relationswith us. 111 the !Wernher 11170 NUAA Newsletter, an Miele entitled"The Federation Movement" stilted. "The USTFF sponsored three interuntimud tours tohutin America and the Caribbean without AM? otoodloo being applied."I Ne.Lt Newsletter, becember 1970) Primo Mete. of course. it is untrue, bemuse no toemberrepresentntiveof the IAAF wtoild allow a foreign tom lu its country which was notauthorised by thut teum's home governing body. Notwithstanding that, the ExecutiveIntetOr of the federation. Curl Cooper, wrote ou May :It 1970 to the AAU saying."Your 'ace grunts permission to the Brigham Young University trackand field team to take a tour every other year to the Scandionvian emmtries.The tours 011t1111Pli 111MP (to the envibbenn nod Ceutrid America) will be very similarin nature awl we would like to have 149111111r permbodon from your ottlee,(Emphasis ours) Following this, eorrespondeuce was received from the president of the Peden'. thin. Wayneooley, complying with all the information needed before AAU permission could be granted to them for such a tour. We might point out, parenthetically, the the AMT. were it intent upon di- minishing or destroying this federation, might easily have refused permission for tiny tour. We did not, since we felt that suet' a move would notcontribute to resolution of this esmtilet. l'erhappt the most offeusive disregard of reality with which the federation amuses itself is the myth that the USTFF "bus" 90% et theathletes and "owns" 095, of the track and field facilities in this eonntry. IFor the Record ... A Statement from the United States Traek and Field Federation. page T1 At the outset, the federation can no more lay claim to tin athlete than can ourorgani- sation or any organiv ttion. The athlete belongs to no one but himself. lie may compete under the n1104)11491 of the AAI! our day. the NAIA (NationnlANNOP111* 11011 of Intereolleginte Athletics, n growl) of rat rollyges And riniversitiP 4 Whirl' ore allied with the AM:1 another and the N('AA on it third,but surely he is not bound to tiny one orgunization, If the USTFF wishes to claim athletes us their property. they are free to undo% Knelt a Haim. But as for us. we relinquish any Haim to the remitting 10% that the federation ceded to us.We do not wish toP1111111 property rights to athletes. be it with USTFF blessing or not. The Oahu to ownership by the federation of 99% of the track and field facilities in this country is incredible. The vast tunjority of these facilities obviously belong not to the USTFF, but to the taxpayers of the state. enmity or city where they are bleated. now m1(1116)111; of his federation to usurp that ownership. Throughout the period tollowitat the decision of the Sports Arbitration Board, the AM* has sought not only to abide by the Agreement. but to encourage the USTFF to abide by that agreement. Only reeently the president of the AM) appealed to VSTIor president Cooley, urging him to meet with members of the virtually nittonommot national track and field committee of the AAU. Mr. t'..oley ruldly 11PIltlell to do so, saying, "I will not he nvallnide Its president of the IISTFF fur meetings Alessers. Cassell. Olegengnek and/or Wright. It is pointless to pursue this 11 further .. ."In the most recent editorial of the .1M1 Newsletter. we asked the the USTFF join with the AAU by sinning the Articles of Allinnee In order to end this internecine strife (Amateur Athlete Newsletter. Oetther 19711. We 1111P re'c'eived nn. response, We have been supported In our position not only by the derision of the Shorts Arbitration Bona but also by the United States olympic Committee. width refuses to reeognise the federation, by the International Amateur Athletic Fed. eration MAI% by the member national goerning track and geld 110111(41 thrOttallifilt the world, who refuse uniformly to dent with the Federation (Nee attnehed letter from Arthur Gold of the British Amateur Athletic Association) and by the United States Department of State which recently informed the MTV. "We require an authorized letter front the governing sports I9917 (the AAU) before consideration can be given to eosponmorship of any oversew' tour." (Se' attached) With reaped to this federated organInatIon, we are not out to destroy It. It may well he that the federation (multi make a contribution to dompatie track and field in this country. Certainly the AAU would support any organisation that strength. ens the !Tort of truck and field III the United Stott% What we will not sup port,

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eannot support and will not tolerate is tin organization that is set upon a course of destructions with respect In the AAU. and without respect for any of the mil- lions of others athletes. funs, volunteers and conches who are being irreparably harmed by the federation's actions. We think that, in the main, these are men of good will. We think that they are genuinely interested in furthering the sport. But we ei1111111y feel that there are those whose motives are Mended by the imperatives of raw power. In this respect. Itis illueldating to refer to a recent incident regarding the submission of an 119141entbot for world record fur a young hurdler named Tom HIM His pending record was set at the USTFF Championships at Wichita, Kansas, June 19711. Despite the fact that the AAU urged the federation to apply for sanction, that such n sanction would nut have been given immediately under the terms of the Sports Arbitration Board and that the AAU, titer the fact, offered to Issue a retroactive sanction for the meet "Without fanfare" so that this athlete would reeelve world recognition. the USTFF refused to make application. in a letter from the track coach at tan institution affiliated with the NCAA). Al Buehler. Is one of the AAU representatives to the USfiC and president of the United States Track and Field Conches Association, he stated, "Carl Cooper I Execrative Director of the USTFF) said in effect ... thathe could nut mid would not request a 'retro-active' sanction from the Missouri Valley AAU ... Carl said he had been given these instructionsby his Expett- five Connell composed of Cooley, Crowley. Byers,etc.and if 'be would request said Missouri Valley AAU sanction he would he tired tomorrow'." In summary. we would like to reiterate briefly the areas in which the USTFF has foiled to abide by the Sports Arbitration Hoard decision we have discussed: 1. the I'STFF has felled to accept the Sports Arbitration Hoard definition of "open" competition as that competition where other than students par- ticipate. 2. despite repeated AAU offers to supply immediate sanction for USTFF "open" events, that hody has failed to apply to the AAU for sanction of its -open" meets 118 it is specifically bound to do under the Sports Arbitration Hon rd agreement. 3. the VSTFF has dellbottely attempttml to disguise the fart that its meets are unsanctioned and hence, under the terms of the Sports Arbitration Hoard. illegal, from cartons athletes who therefore unknowingly compete in these events. 4. the USTFP has, we feel, misrepresented the truth and subverted the best interests of the sport of track and Held to its own ambitions. finally. the MITT has constantly and arbitrarily refused to meet with the AAU in order to disensm solutions to the problems that plague the sport of truck and field in this country. They have done so. we contend. maliciously and without thought of the consequences to all parties involved in our sport. We feel, and we cannot but hope that you will agree, that we have done more than our shore to end this strife. We have done so in the interests of preserving the Owe of the iltited States at the pinnacle of track and field competition in the world. of providing proper developmental programs and of creating an atm° sphere in which the sport can prosper In this country. We have done so at the cost of some of our traditional authority, but, we thought, the price for pence was not too great to pay. We have received neither response nor support from the ITSTFF. We do not wish to climb down the evolutionary wale and revert to the thrents and intemperate statements that eharaeterize their communien- tions with us. Hut tints cannot long continue. We ask. Senator Magnuson, that you make known year views on the mudded so that we may clarify this situation to all concerned and bring some imrmony to twit and field in the United States. Most sincerely. ROUST GEIGENOACK. A .1 U Malmo. to the Rportx Arbitration &Noll. STANLEY V.WRIfitrt. Chairman, Notional AAU Trade and Mehl Committee. Mr. Olt Am. Out' next witness will represent the National Collegiate Athletic Association. Thomas Hansen, assistant executive director of the NrA A and Mr. Philip Brown, counsel to the XCAA, who is it Wnshington nttorney. In addition Mt. Wow)) is accompanied by Mr. Ritchie Thomas of the sable firm. 53 sEst CRT100051414 (ientlemn, you can submit your statenwnt for the record and sum- marize it or you may mad your statement, whichever way you prefer.

STATEMENT OF THOMAS HANSEN, ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE MEC TOR OF THE NATIONAL COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION (NCAA), ACCOMPANIED BY PHILIP BROWN AND MR. RITCHIE THOMAS Mr. 1 lAxsEx. Thu ilk you very melt, Mr. Chairtnan. My name is Thomas Hansen, assistant executive director of the NCAA. As you have indicated I am accompanied by Washington counsel. It is preeisely appropriate in my opinion. Mi. Chairman that this hearing is being conducted by the subcommittee on higher education. for the matter to be diSVIISSNI involves basic educational principles. It is the position of the NCAA that the tour proposed by the AMT would seriously jeopardize the, dimwit of success academically of any college player who mightparticipate. In a 'mon neing thishearing,Mr. Chairman, yon expressed these very concerns of the NCAA. It is to avoid this type of problem that the NCAA has adopted the constitutional provision which limits the basketball season, that protects the player from pressure and ex- ploitation to enable him to maintain his academic progress. Despite the age-old popular jest, about the academic prowess of the athlete, we find today they graduate at a higher rate generally than a cross section of their classmates and the Department of Athletics is vigorously prodding them for graduation. The NCA A's rules implement and aid thatprowess. Thismorning. Mr. Chairman. I am not as well prepared as I would like to be. Saturday was the only day I have been in the office. because of a series of meetings and trips. since we received this invitation to participate. We have 12national championships this month and frankly we don't have a lot of manpower. Therefore I am going to file for time record in statement if we may. Mr. OHARA. Without objection your statement will be entered into the record. The statement referred to follows t]

STATEMENT c TIMIC114C. It.orsax,ASSISTANT EXEct*TIVE THRECTCH op THE NATIANAL CoLLPAHATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION inannouncing this hearing last Wednesday. tip Chairman noted that n pro- posed tour of the Milted States by a U.S.S.R. buskethall term minIndifficulty Is. MINI it appeal% that many of this country's finest amateur basketball players will not take part in the competition. The Chairman expressed concern that in connection with the tour and the confusion surrounding its arrangement the nation's college athletes were "being used as pawns" by organisations administer. Ing amateur athletics in the United States, The National Cullejdate Athletic Association shares this concern. and welcomes the opportunity to lay before this Subcommittee and the American public the farts regarding the nature and POMP of the problems encountered by the proposed tour and where the re sponsibility for the present fiasco Iles. The National Collegiate Athletic. Asfaelation Is a voluntary association coin. posed of 771 members. of which (106 are colleges and universities and VI are allied and affiliated organizations. Among the purposes of the Associationare the initiation, stimulation andImprovementof intercollegiate athleticprograms for student- athletesandtime promotionand development of educational leader. rrk BEST COPY. AVOW 54 ship, physical fitness, sports tairtielpation as a recreational pursuit and Millet ie excellence, A bask purpose is to maintain intereolleginte athleticsas an be tegral part or the educational program mud the athlete us nu integral part of the student body. The membership of the NCAA provides intercollegiatecony petition in 27 different sports in whirl each year more than 1s5,000 compete. NCAA members conduct nit motive intercollegiate basketball program. involving all of the "major" four-year colleges and aid vend! les. In our testimony today regarding the Russian basketball tour, I will make these principul points: 1. The proposed tour's problems stem from the fact that C118 Television and the Amateur Athletic Union combined to try to arrange n Russian basketball tour of the U.S. In total disregard of the rules and promdures governing inter- national amateur spurts events. 2. The problem were compounded because the Clift-AAtt tour was arranged for the worst possible time from the WO of view of studentathletes. and ina manner rendering studentathletes at NCAA member institutions ineligible for Participation, under long-standing provisions of the Nt'AA Constitution. 3. The tour arrangements, designed principally to fulfill it television commit- ment and to butress AAU claims to the conduct of internntional basketball pro- grams, ore unfair to U.S. athletes, a disservice to the spurt, and ultimately, Unfair and misleading to the American public. Since the problems inherent in the proposed tour began to reach the attention of the public, the AAU has made frantic efforts to conceal its mismanagement toolmisrepresentation by attributing its troubles to an organisational dispute with the NCAA. Certainly it is true that to the extent that NCAA members have resisted attempts by the AM1 to assert jurisdiction over their athletic programs mud AAU claims to monopoly control over International events, there is sucha dispute. However, the source of the basketball tour's problems Iles net in that dispute. but instead in the nature and timing of the AAV-C119 arrangements, and the procedures by which they were ninth, all of which are designed exclu- sively to serve orgaullontional goals of the AAP. and in disregard of the hest interests of U.S. athletes and this country's international sports honor and reputation. I. TOR CR5-AMY TOUR WAR 114,111ALLT ARRANGER A prinelpal Incentive for the arrangement of the proposed tour appears to have been provided by an arrangement between the AAU and CBS television calling fur n series of weekly sports programs. A USARussia basketball series might, of course, provide n highly attractive offering for this series. But in order to fulfill its television commitment. the AAU arranged n tour of the Russian team without regard to proper seheduling and preparation and in violation of the rules and procedures governing Hoek international competitions. Tlae President of the Basketball Federation of the USA is here andrandismiss in detail the status of flue regulation of internitional amateur basketball events. hi brief. however, the AAU, whichIn spite of the fact tlmt it has no p+-*tillicant basketball programstruggled for many years to maintain itself as tile sports governing body in the United States reeognised by the International Amntenr Basketball Federation. had all real authority stripped from it by the In Februnry, 1089. Although the AAP WON maintained as the nominal basketball sports 'governing body in the U.S., the effective exercise of authority was given by the 10.I.B.A. to tin' internotIonal Basketball Board of the U.S.A.. on whieb the AAU and the lianketholl Federation of the U.S.A. were equally represented. ruder a resolution of the 10.I.B.A. adopted September 24, 1972, that authority continues in the President of the MB., pending orgiunixation of n new national sports governing bodythe Amateur linsketball Association of the P.S.A.and its *titillation with the V.1.B.A. in spite of the fact that U.S. nffill- anon to the will i.e automatically suspended on April 1, 1073, If the Amateur Basketball Association is not formed before that date, the AAUhas boyeotted the first three orgnnisational meetings of the association. Aceordingly, when the AAU went to the Itusmintoi it lund no nuthority to cone chide arrangements for is competition on behalf of the 11.14. The AA had, and has, absolutely no authority to arrange competition for NCAA member colleges or for other members of flue Basketball Federation. The AAV could not have been Ignorant of these facts. Yet, It proceeded to arrange a tor on which competition involving, studentathletes nt NCAA member institutions wan to he the prinelpal and featured element. No attempt was made to secure authorisation front or to coordinate arrangements through the I.13.11. Pretddent, perhaps 55 BESTsCOPY AVAILABLE beiiiise it. Was 1 low I bat the proposed tour was a monstrosity. Under all the rules npplicuble to mule arrangements. therefore. the CIIS-AAU arranged tour im Illegal. and the AM' has played the part of an outlaw.

It. T1111 eRolbosED am-AAU Total IS sttEDVI.ED To THE DISADVANTAuE aF STVDENT- ATHLETEs Moreover. the tour bus been armed without reglird for Keeper scheduling or for the rules governing partielpation In such events by stmlentatidetes at \CAA unsmber ustituthms. The proposed eight -city U.S. tour Is sehednied for n them which is to the ;snidest disadvantuge of the American student-atidete and whirl' prehnies assembly of the best U.S. team. The tour elutes, which begin on April 25. full within n period when student- athletes would normally be preparing for or taking their annual tined exams, and shortly lacer they have conipleted an exhausting basketball season which begun on Octeber 13, 11)72. Participation in the tour presumably would require dedication of the intervening period to practice and preparation, instead of to studies. Those who !IWO on the Nymphs team at the Munich Olympics Imvenipo playing almost without a break since the June, 1972 Olympic tryouts were held. 'En preveit Just such exploitation of student - athletes by fly-by-night promoters the N('AA Constitution imposes strict limits on out-of-season events and pray- Gees. Article III. Section 9U') of the NCAA Constitution provides that NCAA member Institutions many he represented only by student-athletes who have not participated in any orgnuised, outside basketball eompetition except during the permissible playing season specified by the NCAA By-Laws. Section 9(c) further states that "Such participation shall require the member institution to rule the student- athlete ineligible for intercollegiate competition in the sport of basketball. Participation by residents of Puerto Rico in the Superior Basketball League of Puerto Rico Is exempted from this ruling. A studentathlete may compete in one game a year involving players from his former high school and its alumni team. The Connell shall have authority to waive this provision to permit studentathletes to participate in official Pun American or Olympic tryouts and emnpetition. or participate in other international eollipPtition approved by the Department of State of the U.S. Government and sane- tinned by the Council of the Association. Request for Council sanction must be illade by the institution at least thirty days prior to that competition." In addition. Section O(d) of Article III states that : "Staff members of the athletic department of a member institution shall not knowingly participate. either directly or indirectly, in the management, ranching, officiating, supervision, promotion or player selection of any all- star contest Waiving student-ittliletes which is not certified by the Aswan- Glees Extra Events Committee." Neither the NCAA Council nor the NCAA Extra Events Committee has ever received or acted upon an application for out of-season basketball competition htconnection with the CBS-AAU tour. The first information regarding the tour received by NUIAA offices came from press reports in mid-February. In response to subseqnent hupilries from member institutions regarding participation in the tour. it was necessarily pointed out that such participation would violate the provisions of the NCAA Constitution.

THE Torn ARRANOESIEST14 AOE VNPAIN V.14. ATHLETES AND THE NATIoN AND MISLKADINO TO THE AMERICAN PURLIc Providing the upplleabb procedure's are observed, the AAU might, of course. have met its television commitment by arranging a series of matches between a touring Russian basketball team lend basketball players from programs en- deeded by the AAU. Such a series would not. however. reflect the best amateur competition that the United States has to offer. It would not be saleable television hire, Moreover, it is not such a series which the AAtJ and CBS have been pmmot- Ing and have led the American public to expect. Instead, the tour has been adver- tised us a rematch of the Munich Olympic competition, in a blatant attempt to cash in on the widely-felt dissatisfnetion and resentment regarding the conduct and outcome of the Olympic. finals game between the U.S. and U.S.S.R. teams. Yet it is imnimsrible for the AAU to put the 1072 U.S. Olympic basketball team back together for the tour, There is no evidence of any organismd effort by the AAU 30 BESTCOPY.11161101:11 to muffle,. the athletes eourerned and we have confirmed that most would be un- available. When this Name Is viewed in combination with arrangements pre- cluding participution by NCAA student-athletes, the advertising fur the proposed tour takes on the color of the rankest form of misrepresentation. This kind of promotion has not only misled the public, it also exerts tremendous pressures on the individual athletes who, through no action on their part, are exlwi'ted by the public to partielptc---and labeled selfish and unpatriotic if they do not. We submit that this attempt by the AAII to use the athletes coneernedas pawns to achieve organizational ends is precisely the sort of conduct regarding wide!' the Chairman expressed concern,

CONCLUSION In conclusion, the NCAA believes that the AAU-CHS tour is the wrong tour, at the wrong time, put together illegally and for the wrong reasons. It Is not In this nation's best Interest. We will have no part In tlds shoddy effort to exploit student-athletes. Mr, IlAxsr.x. Then I am going to devote my remarks here to pre- sentirg additional facts we have developed over the weekend, primarily by telephone. I would like to make these seven points. The NCA.1 has not acted against the proposed tour. I emphasize the word not. The AAU is attempting to coerce uninterested athletes into unnecessary. competition. The entire tour is a television gimmick designedto provide television programing and it is not a jurisdictional dispute despite some of the previous statements made this morning. The timing of the tour is the worst possible. Not atypically, the AAU is guilty of atrocious administration. The AAU is attempting to vio- late both domestic and international rules in forcing the tour on this country. 'Ruling knowledgeable coaches and administ ratort4are outspoken in oppmition to the proposed tour and I have statements from them. Mr. Lehman, I believe, indicated he wished there had been a sam- pling. I do have such a sampling from conferences and individuals around the country. To illustrate many of these points also, Mr. Chair- man, I would like to enter into the record six clippings which I will identify. First, a clipping of February 24 from the Washington Post of a story by Mark Asher. Mr. O'HARA. Without objection the clipping will be entered into the record at this point. Mr. HAxstx. Thank you sir. From the Kansas City Times of February 21, a story by Steve Hershey. Mr. O'HARA. Without objection that clipping will be entered into Oa record. Mr. IfAxsEx. An Associated Press story carried in the Kansas City Times by Tom Seppy of the Associated Press. Mr. OHARA. Without objection. Mr. HAxsex. A clipping by Bill Sharp of the Kansas City Star's sport staff of February 28. Mr. O'HARA. Without objection that clipping will also be entered into the record. Mr.HANSEN.A clipping from the Washington Post on February 28. It is an Associated Press story. Mr. O'HAaA. Are there some more? 57 BEST COPY AVAILABLE IIANKEN. The last. one is from the Hartford Courant of Feb- ruary 24. Mr. O'HARA. The clippings will 1w inserted in the record nt this point. IClippings referred to follow :) tFrion the Washhogteu Pest. VA. 34.197:31 NCAABARS PLAYERS FROM ittINSIAN SERIES (By Mark Asher) The NCAA confirmed yesterday that it is barring all college conches and under- graduates under its purview frontparticipating in anAAU-sponsoredseries of games with the Soviet Olympic basketball team this spring because of the con- tinuing player struggle between Om two amateur federations. Tom Hama% assistant executive director of the NCAA, said inn telephone interview from his Kansas City office, that the NCAA acted bemuse the AAU did not COntilet the NCAA before making a Feb. 13 announcement of a meven-eity U.S. tour by the Russians startingApril 28. TheAAU has billed the series as n chance nt revenge for the Americans' con- troversial last-second red -$d) loss in the Olymple thud nt Munich last mummer. The AAU also said that one or two players from UCLA might participate. UCLA's Hill Walton and Keith Wilkes declined to play in the Olympics. The NCAA move offielally strips the series of MIA other possible, participants as Olympians Tom McMillen of Maryland, Bobby Jones of North Carolina, Tom Henderson of Hawaii and Tom Burleson of N.C. State, plus such other under- graduates as David Thompson of N.C. State and Campy Russell of Michigan. It also places in question the commercial success of the series. A stop is :Theduled May 9 at the Baltimore Chic Center. Al Deter. executive secretary of the NAIA, a national organisation of smaller colleges, said the NAIA "would give every cooperation to this series." The latest skirmish between the NCAA and AAU emerged yesterday when Al MeOttire. basketball coach at Marquette University in Milwaukee', said the NCAA had notified hint he could not coach the U.S. nil- stars. "I don't cure whether I conch or not. That's not the point." said McGuire. "We should field the best team possible, especially after what happened at the Munich Olyntplem against the Russians. The NCAA and AAU should cut out this political stuff and just let the series be played." Hansen. assistant to NCAA chief Walter Byers. said the NCAA refused to sanction the postseason competition against tit, Russians because: At Munich, the International Basketball Federation told the United States to form n new sponsoring group representing all interests. Hansen said the AAU has boycotted organisational meetings. Hansen said the NCAA recently applied for approval of a wrestling tour in Russian. but the AAU. which controls international nmateur wrestling, vetoed the request and shortly thereafter announced its own wrestling tour. "There's already blood on the floor," Hansen said. The NCAA. he added, was not trying to exclude the AAU from taking part in the Russians' basketball tour. "There's never been an attempt to shut out the AAU," he said, "but an attempt to have the dominant parties in the sport make the dominant contributions." "We could do what the AAU is trying to do because we have the players," said Norwell Neve, of Oreensboro, N.C., a spokesman for the Basketball Federation of the United States of America, whose members include the NCAA. "The AAU can't commit those kids," said Neve. "They have no control over them. It wouldn't be very attractive unless they have the outstanding college kids like Walton, Jones and MeMillen. They're billing it as a rematch. It would leave it kind of flat. don't you think?" Hansen said the NCAA probably would approve a tour organized by IIFUSA. Neve said BFUSA had had "no contact with the Russians at all about taking it over," Jim Fox, basketball administrator of the AAU, was out of town, his Indian- apolis office said. A secretary there reported, "It's a rather touchy situation. They're hoping it will he resolved." In New York, the Associated Press reported that Richard McArthur, public relations director of the AAU, said the AAU was keenly disappointed because BEST COPY AVAILABLE = 58

"we had hoped 10 Mehl the bawl Isisslble hint' the IIIISSIIMS mad redeem unr defeat at Munich. "We Pained be held responsible for the international image we present. We had hoped for some mart of waiver on the part of the NCAA lint we have found. In dealing with Waiter Byers' Ingle, fair play rarely enters into his thinking pry cress." McArthur was quoted as saying the AAV hoped to have HS 1111111r members of the Inniell team as possible. "We will have Kevin Joyce f Month Carolina 1. limn (Illinois State) and Ed Ratter( (Long Beach State)." McArthur was quoted as saying. to Normal, AL, a spokesman for Collins said the star glumd had not been contneted. but that he would be interested if he had not SWIM a pro enigma by then. Attempts to melt Joyce and Radar were unsnecessfid. Ali are seniors who would be unaffected by the NCAA's action. Another Olympian. Minnesota senior Jim Brewer. has decided nut to play a university athletic official said. Dwight Jones. another member of the U.S. team, signed with the NBA Cleveland Cavaliers following his return. Bobby Jones and McMillen indicated their participation would have In doubtful anyway because they missed class time during the olympies and math, miss more. 1111I1 heellItSe t are finishing hard, competitive seasons. MeMillen also said he doubted from the day the AAU announced the tour thatit could be an on-theourt Allle.W1111 success anyhoweven with nil the limit ',layers. The major problem. McMillen said, was blending the talents of so many toiperstars into a functioning unit in so short it time to eompete against the expetienced Rwislans. "We are continuing our efforts in Mingling our competition against Russia," McMillen said. "We do ud hoe, spur-of-the-moiwnt things. Basically. you need a season to prepare to piny the Russians. It would really be pressing to get n teach together in a month. I didn't think it could have helped us a great deal. I was skeptical tram thestart." Both Jones and Collins played down the rematch aspect the AAV is promoting. "There's nothing to prove," Collins said, "but other people might think there would be."

Mom the Kama City Thum Feb. 21. 19731 TALK Or THE Titers (By Steve Hershey) WASMNOTONThe Amateur Athletic Union, this floundering, disorganized septuagenarian group, exhibiting unequaled consistency, has struck again. Showing the foresight of n first grader. the A.A.V. has boldly announced that theRussian Olympic laiskethall team will playaseries of eight games in the United States against an American team in late April and early May. Just like that. It's all set up. There are dates, places, everything but one minor item: Players. Assuming that all the arenas ran he secured nit the dates announced. all the A.A.V. has to do now Is protium some performers. After blindly accepting the completely unrealistic dates, the A.A.V. is going to find it extremely difficult to mime up with a representative team. That ille11118 ticket sales might go a little slowly. "It's ridiculous," Tom Manikin. the University of Maryland star. said the other day. "It would be impossible for me to play." McMillen was a member of the U.S. Olympic team that lost that controversial 14-11 division to the Russians in the Olympic finals last summer in Munich. He said he would like another chance to play the Russians, but that it would he impossilile for anyone studying seriously in college to participate in the poorly planned, money-making scheme.

FORGET GRADUATING "If i were ;Kling to piny in those games. i would dm) out of school right now." McMillen said. "I'm already missing enough classes and it will get worse at tournament time. At the end of April is when we shirt preparing for exams." Len Elmore, Maryland's rebounding star, turned down an invitation to the Olympic trials last summer and said he wouldn't even consider playing in this series against the Russians, 59 BEST COPYthillAilf* "Let them get the high school kids to play," he said. "We have to go to class sometime, you know. Besides what would it prove if we beat them? They still have the gold medal. You can't change that." Academics is only one of the reason why the entire impulsive idea has no chance of attracting top - quality players. Money also will enter strongly into the players' rejection. By April 10. when the A.A.U. announced it would name its team, many of this year's top senior players will have signed professional contraets. Others will be negotiating and certainly won't want to jeopardize their future with eight mean- ingless exhibitions. BILLY To SLOUT8, TOO -If I were an agent handling a player, I would strongly advise him not to play," said Len Snyder, a scout for the Buffalo Braves of the N.B.A. First there is it risk of injury. Second a poor performance could lower his market value. "A good player would have everything to lose and nothing to gain by playing against the Russians," Snyder said. "Now, a border-line player might benefit with a super performance, but the chances are he won't be in the best of shape at that time of year." The Russians obviously researched this wacky idea much deeper than the A.A.U. By selecting late April and early May for the series, they have picked the one time of year when most basketball players are physically and emo- tionally drained from a drawn-out season which begins In October. How effective would a U.S. team, thrown together it few days before the Rus- shins' arrival. be against the Soviets. who practiee together all year? "It's typical of the A.A.U.," Coach Dean Smith of North Carolina said recently. "I know they haven't contacted our Olympian, Bobby Jones, and they probably haven't bothered to talk to any players. I can't imagine anybody in school being nide to play." One of the items in the A.A.U.'s announcement was: "There is a possibility that one or more players from unbeaten may be included." -Ha." said Snyder, who has been traveling across the country for years and knows many of the earaches. "If John Wooden discourages his players from play- ing on the Olympic team, what do you think his reaction to thi. harebrained scheme will be?" Probably the same as Most players and coaches. The problem how is how to save face, salvage respectability and, just maybe, win a couple of those games.

(By Tom Sem) WANIIINOTONCongress moved yesterday to involve itself in the running plower struggle between the titans of the nation's amateur sportsthe National Collegiate Athletic Association and the American Athletic Union. The House Special Educatir a Committee announced the beginning of hearings next Monday into the judisdietional dispute between the N.C.A.A. and A.A.U. which many believe could threaten the success of a series of basketball mimes between the Ut.:ted r ates and Russia this spring. The N.C.A.A. a ..to...eed last week that college coaches and undergraduates under its jurisdiethwould not he permitted to participate in the A.A.U.-spon- sored games with the soviet Olympic basketball team because of the continuing battle between the two amateur federations. The N.C.A.A. said it acted because the A.A.17. did not contact the N.C.A.A. before making a Feb. 13 announcement of a T-city U.S. tour by the Russians starting April 28. The A.A.V. has billed the series as a chance at revenge for the Americans' controversial last-second 51410 loss in the Olympic final at Munich last summer. The N.C.A.A. move apparently officially stripped the series of such possible Participants as Olympians Tom McMillen of Maryland, Bobby Jones of North Carolina, Tom Henderson of Hawaii and Toni Burleson of N.C. State, plus such other undergraduates as U.C.L.A.'s Bill Walton and Keith Wilkes, both of whim declined to play in the Olympics, and David Thompson of N.C. State and Campy Russell of Michigan. Committee chairman James C. O'Hara (Mitch.) said, In making the enflame*. meld of the hearings, he was disturbed that the dispute threatened the series of games. 20420-74-1) con' AVAILABLE BEST 60

"These games mold do moth to channel at least some of the competition be- tweet] the world's super powersthe 1'.S 1. and the U,S.14.11.into the relatively peaceful arena of sports," he said. "At the same time, they timid decide the question of who really has the better basketball capabilitya question that was left up hi the air because of the con- troversial manner In which the thud basketball game in the 1972 Olympiad at Munk It was derided last. summer." 'llara said as chairman of the subcommittee responsible for this nation's insti Miens of higher education, he was concerned that the college athletes were being used as pawns in a power play between the A.A.U. and the N.C.A.A. "It would appear on the surface' that these two organizations wield unusual powers over the lives of the young coca engaged in sports activities as part of their college education," he said. "I think It's time we took a good look at whether. In the pwess of controlling the sports activities of these young men, Oilier of these organizations encroach unduly on the academic field." t Mara said the hearing on the N.C.A.A.-A.A.U. controversy could be the first in a series centering on college athletics. Ile Winded that his timunittee, in the coming weeks, might explore such isp.ties as the adelplaeY of sports rules and equipment to safeguard athletes, whether athletes are being allowed to engage in sports despite serious injuries; whether academic pursuits are not being subverted to victory oa the playing field : and whether college athletes are being exposed to the drug culture as part of I he victory syndrome.

[From the Kansas City Rom Feb. 29,19731 Rzettass ToPANIC (13y Bill Sharp) The reaction was quick yesterday to the latest broadside by the National Col- lugin te Atilletie Association (N.C.A.A.) against the &game spring tour of Russian and rains! States basketball teams. A. 0. Doer, executive director of the National Association of Intercollegiate Athletes (N.A.I.A.), termed the situation potentially tragic and said he did not set' this as an opportunity fur the N.A.I.A. to foster Its stars. Then. are indications that the Amateur Athletic Union (A.A.U.), the governing body in the United States for international sports competition, feels that the V.C.A.A. will have a tough time holding in line the stars who played for the first VA rHympic loser. This In spite of the fart that some of those athletes have been quilted to the effect that they will participate. In Indianapolis yesterday Rich MacArthur, Amateur Athletic Union public relations man, put it on the line: "We are going to get our players the same way we were oiling them before. We are going to askthe 10 or 12 best players to participate." The A.A.U. glad, said MacArthur, is to put together a nucleus of the Olympic team that played in Munich. This is alit to say that the A.A.U. would exclude spotting N.A.I.A. stars. "Any player who is eligible under aad M.B.A. (International American Bate 1;441,811 Federation) rules Is eligible for the team," said MacArthur. But he did want to dismantlee the nation that there would be any chance of mass substi- tution of starssay N.A.I.A. players for N.C.A.A. stars or the players who went to Munich. SW iluestiou that arose from this furor was what does it do to U.S. prestige in hasi:ethall if In the tour with the Russians the U.S. is forced to use industrial league ,'layers or scattered pickups from other sources? "We will field a team." said MacArthur and he would not concede any possibility that it would be below first-rate standards. This contention serves as a rebuff to the latest N.C.A.A. blast that includes the passage: ... "itis difficult to understand why they are a party to the venture (tour with the Russians) since they do not have any teams to match against the Russians." Doer said that a Congressional investigation that opens Monday could shed some light on the situation. Ile says Congress wants to look into the detain- stances of the tour and whether it is in the public interest. And if so, why all Parties don't co-operate. Cry BEST COPY AVAILABLE, GI

The basketball tour Is scheduled to begin April 20 in SuitLake City with eight games to be played over a period that extends through May 11.

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Congn.ss moved yesterday to involve itself inthe power struggle between the fit1111:4 amateur sportsthe National Collegiate Athletic Association andthe Amateur Atilletie Mita), The Howe Special Education Committee said hearingswill begin Monday into the jurisdictional dispute. which currentlythreatens the success of a basketball series between the United States and Russia. The NCAA announced last week that collegecoaehes and undergraduates under its jurisdietion would nut i.e permittedto participate in the AAU-spon- sf wed games with the Soviet olyptuple team because ofthe continuing battle bet Wet% rice federations. The NCAA said it acted because the AAVdid not contact the NCAA before making a Pets, 13 amodutetonent ofa seveelty U.S. tour by the Russians start-. ing April 2s. The AAll has hilted the seriesas a champ at revenge for the Americans' vont roversial last-second 51-50 loss in the tHympicfinal at Munich. The \CAA more officially stripped the series of suchpossible participants as ilYealitolm Tom McMillen of Maryland, Hobby Jones of NorthCarolina. Doug Coffins of Illinois State. and Tem Burleson of N.C. State.plus such other and. r- graduates an MLA's Bill Walton and Keith Wilkes, bothof whom declined to play in the OLYMPIA*. Clantnittee chairman JallIft4 G.Ella ra (D-Mieh.) said, in announcing the hearings, he was disturbed that the dispute threatenedthe series. "These games could do much to channel at leastsome of the competition be. tw!.4%11 veevr tu:Wers:the U.S.A. and the t.t4.8.11.---Into the relatively peaceful arena of sports." he said. At the same time. they could decide the question of whoreally has the better basketball capabilitya question that was leftup in the air hecanke of the con- troversial manner in which the final basketballgame in the 1972 Olympiad at Munich was decided last summer." I MICR Said he was concerned that college athletes were being usedas a pawn in a power play between the AAV and the NCAA.

IFrom the Hartford Courant, Feb. 24. 19733

COMEDIANS DISALLOWED FOR RUSSIAN SERIES NEW Tow (A/1)AI McGuire. coach of the fifth-rankedMarquette University basketball team, was told Friday that he could not coach the U.S.team in a series against the Russians, thus opening the ugly word war between AM'. the NCAA and At the same time, the NCAA said the I1. S. team would be unableto draw upon the rich college reservoir for playing talent. "It's not that I care about coaching that nmeh." said McGuire. whohas brought Marquette to New York for a Saturday game with Fordham. "It's Justthe Image we will be presenting to the rest of the world. "Here we are replaying the team that beat us in that very controversialgame at Munich and we are faced with the possibility of using players whodribble with both hands. HMO SAYS NO "I think it is a sad situation." in Kansas City. headquarters of the National Collegiate AthleticAssociation, It was neknowledged that Walter flyers. Ems... Wive Director of theNCAA, had sent a firm "uo" response to McGuire's request to conch the team. The letter went to Dr. 411111(114 Scott. athletic director of Marquette. andit said : "No student of any NCAA institution may participate in theWM& NO coach of a member NCAA institution may be attached in any way to the game." The reasoning behind the Ming. Byers' office mold.was that the Amateur JtiN BEST COPYMAKABLE- 02

Atit letie Union Ungranily made ohms for the Russian basketball series without consulting the International Basketball Board and also sought to countermand longexisting NCAA by-laws.

The AA!' and NCAA have been at loggerheads for years, their fend frequently threatening to hurt Anterbsoo efforts in the Olymples and other international events. The \CAA last Oetober withdrew Its support of the U.S. Olympic emu- mittess because of that eommittee's dominance by the AAU. °MING SET APRIL 26 TheRussian team is scheduled to open an eight-game American tour in Salt Lake City April 211 and complete it at Lexington. Ky., May 11. The series is of particular interest because it was the Russians who handed the rutted States its only basketball defeat in Olympic history at Munich, winning :11-.10 in a wild, disputed finish. The Americans apparently bad the ehamplottahip game won on two freethroes. 30-49 with three seconds left to play. Hut the Russians were permitted to throw the ball in twice after that, finally scoring on a 1Ioor-length pass with the clock apparently run out. eitagrined Americans refused to accept the silver *minis. Moves by the U.S. tnympie Committee to have the result reversed finally died with the Executive Connell of the International Olympic Committee. Richard McArthur. public relations director of the AAP. said the AAU was keenly disappointed because "we had hoped to field the best possible team against this Russians and redeem our defeat at Munich. "We cannot be held responsible now for the international image we present. We had hoped for some sort of waiver on the part of the NCAA but we have found that in dealing with Waiter Byers' logic and fair play rarely enters into his think- ing proevii." "t )CATION" Jerry Miles. who holds a similar post with the \CAA, countered inKunnas City : -For undergraduates to participate in outside competition has been a violation of \CAA rules for years. This is a ease of the AM; attempting tostronghand its way thrssugh again." Miles pointed out that the V.S. Basketball Federation, hacked by theAAr, hail lostits international certification at Munich and that the International Basketball Federation had directed the United States to form a new sponsoring group representative of nit amateur groups. "Meetings have been held to form an American BasketballAssociation before the April 1 deadline." Miles said. "The AAU hasboycotted all of these sessions. Meanwhile, the combust of C.S. basketball in foreign eventshas been turned over to the International BasketballBoard." While the AAU had hoped to draw front the top college teams, such asUCLA, North Carolina and Marquette, the. United States team wilt notbe wholly desti- tute. McArthur said. -We hone to have us many timbers of the Munich team as possible," the AAU publicist said. "We will have Kevin Joyce (South Carolina), DougConlin; State) and Mtwara ROMP (Long Beach). We should be able to pick up those good seniors whose eligibility has misled. "Our hope is to field the ten best men. Obviously, we won't he ableto do that without NCAA help. And i don't know what we will do about a coach."

ONLY SENIORS In Indianapolis. Don Hates, administrator of the MayVA-Ramie game in the Indiana city, said : "We never planned to use anyone lad graduating seniors. Underclassmen hare not been eligible in the past ante's they'realready signed a pro contract, and we weren't planning to change that. "The only difference this makes is that Al McGuire won't be able to roach the leant. We'll have to get a professional, a retired coach or asmall college conch." Mr.HANSEN.There have been some statements made this morning, in fact there have been many statements made this morning that do 63 not square with the facts as we know them including the rules about amateur basketball. Iam specifically prepared to discuss the tour, itself. Now there have been comments about the USOC and about every other body in sports from track and tield across the board. But I want to concentrate on the fact that the proposed tour's problems stem from the fact that the CBS television and Amateur Athletic Union com- bined to try to arrange a Russian tour in total disregard of the rules and procedure, gie mining international amateur sports events. We do not rti11441r that the 11111 man Carnevale's authority begins on March 81. W., feel it is currently in progress and in effect until March 31. The problems were compounded with this tour because the CBS AAIT tour was arranged in the worst possible time from the point of view of student athletes and the matter of rendering student athletes at NW. institutions ineligible for participation under a long- standing provision of the NCAA constitution which should have been well known to the AMT. The tour arrangements designed principally to fulfill a television commitment and to buttress AAU claims to the conduct of interna- tional basketball programs are unfair to U.S. athletes, a disservice to the sport and ultimately unfair and misleading to the American public. Now, let me comment briefly on the rule. The AAIT first claimed jurisdiction over basketball and 28 other sports in MK Ever since, the schools, colleges. and Armed Forces and everyone else in athletics have been trying to gain freedom from AAU control and coercion. When it. loses basketball on the 31st, AM.'. will he down to nine sports which indicates a trend although it has been a long and difficult struggle. Finally, the Olympics international body PIRA removed the U.S. domestic control of sports from AAIT anti invested it in IBB which has been made up of 10 representatives from both the Basketball Federation and the AAIT. This is a federatiooAAIT matter when you get to the rules, in.t an NCAAAAIT mutter despite some statements to the contrary. NCAA is a, proud member' of the federation but certainly it is not a controlling member because the federation is set up so that eu one body can control the federation. gr. Carnevale was the chairman with the authority to vote to break a tie in ease of a tie between two parties. Then they orderedprior to the Munich games the problem in this country was to be resolved by the pal ties concerned; because of the A AIT's continuing attitude, it was not done of course. At Munich MBA declared the AAIT franchise be removed in March 31, 191'3, and directed a new body, encompassing all groups be formed, and failure to do so wouldleadto its removing the U.S. franchise. Three organizational mentings and an ad hoc meeting have keen held. The AAIT has attended none of these. Mr. Steitz will comment why Mr. Fagan of the high school asso- ciation did cull these meethigs. Therefore, in addition to not following flue VIM directive to work through the MB the AAIT is refusing to admit that subsequent to 64 April 1 it has no authority to sehedide a tor u by a national team. It is totally ignoring all other parties with domestic programs of national WON and all of their rules in so scheduling. Now, on some of the specifics of the tour, let. me begin by advising the subcommittee the AAU has precipitated a problem by attempting to arrange competition without consideration of this country or its amateur athletes and without legal authority as demonstrated by the 11311 resolution. The NCAA has not been involved in this effort in any way. We have never had a communication about it. We have had a few phone calls from the press and that is the extent of our knowledge. The NCAA merely has responded to inquiries and we have stressed that the rules are longstanding rules to protect the student athlete, they are not something which has come suddenly and the NCAA has taken no action, they have simply quoted the rules. What exactly is the ease in this mater is that the AAIT is trying its hardest through just this type of pressure to create an impression of the NCAA trying to reopen the so-called feud. That, usually causes even interested observers to ignore the facts of this issue. The NCAA recently and strongly rejected such an action and impres- sion. We will not be placed behind the eight ball on this matter. The association will not be pressured or embarrassed in partici- pating in HII activity which will be detrimental to its student athletes. The students, not. the NCAA, have repeatedly identified the tour as ill timed and potentially damaging to the academic interests of the participants. The AAIT must bear the whole burden for the mess in which it finds itself. It has a television contract but no programing. It has a basket- ball series but no players. It has no facility, no administration. no brg. aization. and no contacts with any of those who do have. As usual, it is interested only in its own financial gain and power and not in the welfare of the athlete. It is threshing about in futile efforts to rescue itself. Clearly it has given no thought to the prestige of this Nation in basketball or any other matter. This tour is all about and simply all about a television contract and a little money. The NCAA has done nothing wrong and will not allow the AMT to cast it in a villain's role with specious statements, statements which are repented and repeated despite having no foundation whatso- ever. Now. the AAIT is attempting to use this rematch concept. to coorec the student athletes in a unneeded series of contests in which they will be at a considerable competitive disadvantage. Mr. Steitz will tell you it is impossible to put together a good Mi- ster team in 10 days against a itussion team which has been out for years and played hundreds of games together. I only have to cite last summer's Olympics where the U.S. team spent approximately 2 months preparing, not 2 weeks or 10 days. The AAIT has not gone through the legitimate recognized interests in basketball. It is no longer the legitimate franchise holder and has no authority to sponsor such a team. I used a strong word "coercion" in talking v.: the students because this is what is taking place here. Word of the tour suddenly leaks oat a month before the team is selected right at the height of the college 70 65 basketball season when the players are already taxed by competition and academic demand. Why. now when the AM T has known the arrangements for this tour since last August. and it was listed by CBS last October in publicity for up-coming CBS television programs, why has there still been no contact with other basketball organizations, any of the prospective players and several of the announced sites, one of which inctdently they found out was not available sometime after they had announced that a game would be played there. The reason simply is to create pressure on the young men to par- ticipate so that the AAU can deliver for its television producer awl series. I have a specific example of how these pressures are built up. On February 12, the Los Angeles Times reporter called me and asked me about the NCAA rules. I told him the rules which you are well aware of now. He wrote a story quoting the rules. The story ran 2 days later and all the references to the NCAA rides were taken out and the tour was publicized and ballyhooed andgoing on with the great players because the L. A. Times was sponsoringthe games in Los Angeles which happens to be the television game on the .29th of April. That is how the pressures have built up. The AMT needs the colleges and the players because there are nut pro teams available at that time. Their camps haven't opened. in 1971 to the contrary the same Russian team toured later in the year and played against the professional basketball teams'rookies. Last summer the AAU sent a greet amateur representative to Eu- rope. the Denver locket rookie team, even though theyhad all signed professional contracts previously. The AAIT has announced members of the 1972 U.S. Olympic team will participate. They hare announced it. Mr. McArthur has an- nonnced this repeatedly. In a direct quote three college players were promised, El Ilatieft of Long .Beach, Kevin Joyce of South Carolina and Doug Collins of Illinois State. In fact, and we have checked this with the individual young men, not one of these men has been contacted at this time. Neither Mike Bantom who is a senior, neither Jim Brewer, although the newspaper people contacting him have found lie cannot play. These players have said they cannot play for academie reasons and do not want to play for competitive reasons. They realize they have no chance competitively. If I may, I would like to go down the roster of the 1072 Olympic basketball team to examine the status of the players. Ken Davis, AAU player. I have no knowledge of his status. Second is Dour Collins of Illinois State, a senior. He has not been contacted and his quote concerning the rematch was that "There is nothing for us to prove" and has played it down. Tout Henderson. a junior at the University of liawnii. who was the one jtuiior college player on lest year's tour. He cannot play. He is a junior. Mike Bantom we contacted last night. Neither ho nor his director of athletics had been contacted at that time.

r'1,1 66 Bob Jones of North Carolina is a junior and cannot participate. Dwight Jones of University of Houston has signed a professional contract, cannot participate. Jim Forbes of the University of Texas, El Paso, has a knee Injury. He cannot participate. Jim Brewer has said he will not play. 'font Burleson is a junior, cannot play. Tom McMillen, a junior, cannot play. Kevin Joyce has not been contacted. Ed MAW, a senior has not been contacted. I would like to add a statement here by Tom McMillen who has repeatedly been quoted as saying. this is aviipoor idea. McMillen said he doubted from the day the AAU announced the tour that it could be on the court an American success anyhow even with all the best players. The major problem he said was the blending of the talents of so many superstars in a functioning unit it. so short a time to compete against the experienced Russians. We are continuing ottr efforts in bungling our competition against Russia. We do ad hoe spur of the moment things. Basically you need a season to prepare to play against the Russians. We would really be pressed to get a team together in aMonteitht don't think it could have helped us a great deal. I was skeptical from the start. This is Tom MeMillen who is an experienced international player and as a matter of fact a member of the President's Council on Physi- cal Fitness. Now, I would like to speak on the television aspect of the tour. This tour is directly a result of the fact that CBS lost a national hockey league telecasI to NBC. CBS wits left with no Sunday afternoon programing. It had no real package available. So it went to the sports spectacular concept, which is what this telecast will be a part of, which it had had previously and abandoned 5 years ago. But it' out that ABC through Wide World of Sports has virtually all national and international special sports events tied up. with the exception of the. AAU events. Therefore, it is pretty well stuck with AAIT. The understanding in the TV industry is that without the Russian events sports spectacu- lar could not have gotten off the ground and materialized. So the AAU events are the core of the CBS package. The whole series of Russian tours to the United States was created to fill a vacancy in the television series. Mr. Cassell went to Moscowseveral times to line up Russian teams in different sports to capitalize on the residual glamor of the Olympic games. This is how the series is being advertised. The IT.S. basketball deal was signed in Munich before the Nepal-United States game. So it hardly was a rematch. The AAIT is willing to embarrass America throughout. the world just to fulfill a programing obligation. Let us examine this unbelievable timing. The team is to be an- nounced on the 10th to play the first game on the 296. When and where is it to gather? Nov is it to get. ready to play these games? And here is what it would do to a college player if lw were Ale to play. First, he has the 197142 season, Ile went right from that to the Jim Olympic camp at the. Air Force Academy for over 2 weeks. Ho

10101 0' (4, 07 BEST COPY AVAILABLE: bad 5 days ta. Ile went to Hawaii for 3 weeks and then began a tour of the United States before embarking for Munich. When 1w got out of Munich in September, September 10, hehad until only October 15 before he began another highly competitivecollege Season. YOUcan count on your one hand thenumber of months this young man has had in 2 years away.frombasketball. Yet the AAU is attempt- ing to force him right. back into a very difficult eonipetition. The World University games are coining up in August.. Already the T.S. Collegiate Sport Council is making a strong rand to Intro a suc- cessful program there. There just is not any reason that anyone needs this tour. Besides announcing players it has not contacted the AAU has an- nounced games for sites it has not yet obtained; at least in one easeit ca 'Ina obtain. In fact, it must, have been surprised to learn the 'Universityof Kentucky already had events scheduled in its &Mouse on May 11 mind of course the AAU had announced that the game would beplayed hi Lexiii.gton on that date. Theinversity of New Mexico where they have announced a game, the university tells us no arrangements have been made. No contact. l'aScome from anyone. Indiana i iiivi'rsity. the local newspaper which has signed a sponsor with the Indianapolis Star has been contacted but there has been no A A' contact. All this confusion exists and all this administration remains to be done despite the fact the agreement was 'signed last August or Septem- lier a ad has been advertised for television since last. October. In contrast, we have times, dates, sites, everyother.possible arrange- ment made for our own basketball tournamentwhich is coming up in 1974 and we are pretty well set in 1975 and 1976. 'That is the way you properly administer events. Now, Mr. Chairman, asindicatedhave called a number of indi- viduals who are very pertinent to these proreedings. I would like to enter statements from them into the record. i shouldlike to rend them if imar. This is from William Wall, director of athletics at McMurrayCol- lege of Illinois, immediate past president of the Association ofBasket- ball Coaches and currently secretary of the NABC. The NATI(' supports the NCAA statement and position100 percent. TheAAV has established is series of mimes between a Mission professional tenni and V.S. lanterns. Our players must go to school. Competition during the periodof the tour would seriously jeopardise the 1972-73 nendemic work and the academic careers of our pinyers. The NCAA rules in question have been in effect for years mid the AAVIs well nwnre of their existence. The colleges that belong to the NCAA hove 441.a rejected experimental games being conducted by the NAM' to discourage out- ofseason basketball competition. The rules apply to the Annual NAM"! Wit- West All. Star (Inme as No application or communication concerning the tour has been received by the NeAA. NANO or anyone connected with amateur immketbnii. The timing of the tour could not he worse. Not only are our players just enncluding n most tliffilenit season. but it Is basebnil season in the V.5. Further. Amerienn nmntenr basketball interests are gearing up for competition In the World Vniversity fining*. It should be understood that the kW plans to have the V.S. team compete against a Mission team which, in addition to last mummer's Olympic homes, was 8ES1' COPYAVAILABLE 68 in the 11'orld Cup Competition in 1972, the World University Games in 1971 and the }IBA World Championship in 1971. Most of its players are members of the Russian Army. They have played some 400 games together over the last four years. 7 match an unprepared team against them is sheer fully. The AAU plans to begin competition 10 days after the announcement of the team. cootrasting this with the sehedule of preparation of the VA Olympic team last summer: Two weeks of tryout competition at the USAF Academy in One week rest. Throe weeks intensive training in Hawaii. FM' game exhibition tour. Along with our prmddent, Fred Taylor, I suggest that had the tour been es, tablished prior to the season, many of the problems might have been worked out. Certainly, the timing would have been different. However, we now must ask. "What does it prove, what good does it do. The Itnsslans were not the ones that cilsi us the victory at Slut& It, this is not a matter of national prestige." In elesing, t would like to remind all concerned with amateur athletics that inI )enver ou Febreary 9, President Krum' of the ITS0C stated the USOC did not need the colleges. Also, over the years, the AAU has stated repeatedly to 1111.1 that It (.m41441.1 at least 90 percent of the amateur basketball activity in this country. We invite them to conmete against the Russians with their 110 percent. but not to jeopardize the ac t careers of college players In the That is from the NABC, the 'National Association of Basketball Coaches, Thais is by Charles 11. Neinas, Commissioner of the Big ti Conference and SCA A Foreign Relations Committee : The timing of the tour wadi lint he worse. It coittehlea exactly with the final examination period at Big 8 institutions. A year ago, for example, the final commencement hi the Big S was May 13. The ergs nizations wide', do conduct basketball programs in this country were never eonsnited by the AMT regarding this tour. The 11Ig 4 Conference has re. velvet] 110 information about It. The AMT is attempting an obvious power play to obtain players since it has none. To st 'WA that the Conference favors !properly administered international cont. petition. the Big g hereby offers that each of Its members will play one game ago in4 the Russian team in either late November or early Deeember of 1973a logien' time of the yearand will send a Big s all-star team on a tour of Russia the following year. This offer includes appropriate guarantees to the Russian tea in in this count ry. The fads are simple. The AMT has no basketball program of Hs own. It is a parasite whieh feeds off the basketball programs of others. Yet it demands to dictate and control international basketball as a represeetative of the United States and attempts to do so without regard to those who are actively involved In the dfvPininnent and promotion of the sport. It was this type of attitude which led to the formation of the Basketball Fed- (Intim, of the United States of Anuerlen. which represents more than 90 percent of the active, organized basketball interests in this country. (The Federation was established as a result of a request by the National Association of Basketball rettelies and 1110111PN the high schools, junior reneges, clubs, and women's pro. grams. es well as the NCAA.) 'Flint is an interest ing statement.90percent. This is a statement by Robert C. James, commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference and chairmen of the NCAA Extra Events Committee: I wish to stress these essential points. Academically the tour is detrimental, Three of the AAtl schools are in final exams. This would serve as a detriment. Any out of season competition must he approved by the academie chairman of a player's institution. I doubt that any ACC institution would approvepartici potion even if the NCAA were to back the tour. Ifeel the tour is ill timed because a representative team will not he fielded. As a member of the Pixtra invents Committee of the NCAA, I wouldobjectIf the AAU applied forcertification onacademic principlesalone. 09 I talked to Bucky Waters. head basketball coach at Duke.on this matter. The essence of his emollient is that to attempt to assemble such a team is a great disservice to Anteicap basketball. Of course, the Russian team has been playing togetherfor a. long time. The American team needsa minimum of 2 weeks of practice. Couple this with 2 weeks on the tour, and the player would losetoo much class time at a critical time of theyear, Resides, the hest college- :1U players will be physically and mentally tired from the long Se11:4011. We weleome competitionon an international level, especially with the RIISSWIS. The best, time to assemble sucha team is in the summer, when the World Universitygames are being held. This is an essential effort. not the AAIT proposed tour. Big Ten Commissioner Wayne Duke. You gentlemen from Michi- gn and Indiana will like this. An Imo Ten Institutions will be in final MIMS or In onecase have students enrolled in classes during the period April 26 through May 11. Stun Bates, Commissioner, Western Athletic Conference: The Western Athletic Conference agrees and supports the NCAA rules which effect the II.Sltussian Basketball Tour, The NCAA statementsare accurate and pertinent in regard to the timing of and arrangements for the Tour. This office has reerived no communication concerning players or sites from the West- pro Athletic Conference. in dosing. Mr. Chairman. let me emphasize again that the NCAA rides in the NCAA constitution. which is basedon a two-thirds major- ity the delegates appointed by the number institutions of the vol- untary organization, have been linigstantling for academic reasons and for their noncompetitive harriers. They arc designed to protect the individual student athlete fromex- ploitation and towed competition by promoters.even by the university e.mel les who might. ask them to play on as organized tennis. We appreciate of great deal the opportunity to be here, and thank you for your time, sir. I aIn sorry that We weren't better prepared. Mr. OlinttA. Thank you, Mr. Hansen. We understandyour kind of problems. Did I understand you to say you are preparing for 10 NCAA cham- pionships ? Mr. IIANSKIC This month 12, several of which last over a period of :3 or 4 weeks, including our 2 national basketball championships. Mr. O'ii tu.t. Conld you tell Inc what those 12 are? Mr. I Loiskx. Off the top of my headit is in the hack in my brief- cae,---two basketball, two wrestling. two gymnastics, two swimming, volleyball, indoor track, fencing. and ice hockey. Mu'. 0'11 Atm Do all of those take place in March? Mr. HANsliN. Yes; the volleyball is in the first week of April, but within the next at days we will have 12 national championships. Mr. OMAHA. When you say AAU has no authority to arrange the tour, I suppose you are speaking about the difference made by the F BA resolution of last September. Mr. 'IA NU% Precisely. Mr. O'llnun. Or August. In other words, even though they had made arrangements in prior years as a consequence of that resolution, they don't have authority.

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Mr. HANSEN. Yes. Mr. O'llAtit. The AAU witnesses say they got specific approval of this in September, and they brought forward a telegram from Dr. Jones who is the secretary general of FIBA, saying that this tour was all right. Mr. HANSIIN. Mr. Chairman, I think the semantics caught us up, here. I think that when pressed for that specific point? that they dodged the answer. They said that FI13A said it was all right for this tour to be itch!. FlliA in no way endorsed or gave any sanctioning authority. All it said was yes, this seems to be a proper tour. iVell, it is a proper tour as far as the intermit tonal rules are (Imperiled,if it is arm Inge through and certified by the 11111, or in this case, really, now, Mr. Carnevale acting fur the IBM lint 14'IliA did not say, "You may go unilaterally with this tour." They very carefully did not say that. They said, "f es, if you can do this, t ids is fine." I think that is a very important point. I believe they dodged the answer. I would submit that. MIA had every reason tobelieve, because of its own directive, that time AAIT would in turn go to Mr. Carnevale and it would have been approved by Mr. Carnevale if it met the proper qua i tient imam. Mr. O'HARA. In other words, you take Jones cablegram to mean that there would be no objection to the tour if it is properly arranged, and you believe the proper arrangement includes the approval of the chairman of the hilt, Mr. Carnevale of William and Mary. Is that right Mr. IfAxsr.s. Yes. Mr. O'HAn.t. We will have to cheek into this with AAU'switnesses. You have indieated that the players who were part of the U.S. Olympics squad will not be able to play, but a number of those youlist- edits not being able to play you said would not be able to play because they are juniors. O n course, time reason they are not able to play is because. NCAA rules say they won't be eligible to play for theircollege next year if they play. Mr. HAxsiv.x. That is correct. The way therule works is that the institution would then have to declare them ineligible. Mr. 01tARA.Some of them might be willing to play if theydid lase t heir eligibility. You don't know. Mr. HA xmEN. No; bemuse none of those has beencontacted. We do have a statement by Mr. McMillan and Mr. Elmore ofthe same team who declined to play even had he been able, because ofthe tinting, because they are in final examination. In fart, In Mr. Hershey's clipping, Mr. MeMillan statesthat, "If I were going to play in those games, I would drop out ofschool right 310W." Now, this is February 21. This is what he is saying. Thisis one of the best i it ernat lanai players: am already missing enoughCifttif*S.and It will get worse at tournament time. At the end of April is when we start preparing for finalexaminations. Mr. Minim You say the NCAA has not been asked to net, andhas not acted, with respect to this proposed tour.

lam 64 ) 71 Some reference was made in the testimony to the proposed world championship or world games. Mr. IIAxszx. There is the World University Games. There is a lot of international competition. Mr. O'ILut.t. Also there is some in Limit, Peru, I believe. What is that. ? Mr. I Itxsx. I have no knowledge of that. Mr. Steitz says it, is the }IBA cluunpionships. Mr. 0'1 hitt. Tlw International Basketball Federation Champion- ships will be in Peru in May. Do you know anything about, that? Mr. 11Axszx. No, sir, although t would not be in a position to know in my area of responsibility. Mr. Steitz probably does know more. Again, that is a good example of why this tour is ill-timed. If there is such a competition going on, what is being done about that? Mr. OliAnA. Are NCAA athletes going to be permitted to parti- cipate in those games Ali.. I Itxszs. I don't know. Mr. Sum. I lon't know, sir. If it. is in May, which I believe it to he, I believe it must be, unless NCAA bylaws are changed, you would have the same situation unless people got together ahead of time to resolve the difficulty. Mr. lt.txszN. There is a provision for waiver. So when proper com- munications are established, these kinds of things could occur at the proper time. May could be all right with some people. Again, this is the first time we have heitml of this tour, because, as you have just been told, for 1 years we have not been communicated with. So I inn not prepared to go further on that. Mr. 0411Au.t. May might lm all right for the world gamesbut not for the Russian tour. OK? In other words, you say there might be some athletes who may still have a problem in connection with the MBA World Championships, but nevertheless you think that some of NCAA athletes might be able to participate, even though it. is May. Would you not be willing to make the same concession with respect to the tour in early May I Mr.l'Axsy.x. Not in early May, I don't think you would have that situation. I showed you that at those dates all these conf we in- stitutions are in final exams. My point was if it were at the end of May, there tie some out. Mr. OlLutn, Could you read the Big Ten commissioner's telegram again? Mr. ItAxsor. Yes, sir. .nilnigTen member institutions will he In the final exams or have students nrothid In elaNsee during the period April 26 to May M. Mr. O'lLut,t. Will be in final exams or students enrolled in classes / Mr. IIANsEx. Right. Mr. 011ot,t. Could you not say the same thing about the NCAA tournament ? It conies at a time when all member institutions have final exams or have students enrolled in classes? Do you know of any institution that does not have students enrolled in March? Mr. 1 tA xsEx. No, sir, they will all be enrolled students. Mr. O'ITAti.t. What the Big Ten guy says is that the situation in May will not be dissimilar from what it is today, either they will he in final exams or will be enrolled in classes.

PALif .t,1 BEST COPY AVAILABLE Mr. HAxsys. No, sir, if they have 9or 10 institutions in final exams in March, obviously in May there will beno such set of finals. That is a very marked di &remit,. The NCAA has moved in the last severalyears in fact almost all of its events, because of the change in academiccalendars. We have vigorously sought to avoid putting championshipson or near final examinattons because of the vast importance or those tests. Mr. O'HARA. In other words, in the "Big 10," 9 out of the 10 will be in final exams? Mr. ITAxsmx. Yes. Mr. O'HARA. The 10thone will have people in classes? Mr. 1 EANsEx. Yes, sir. Mr. lha.txxliActc. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. O'HARA. Yes. Mr. l*LLENBACK. Do I not understand correctly that theUniversity of Minnesota's finals will be June 9 to June 15? Mr. HANSEN. That is not what. Mr. Duke indicatedto me. Mr. Dxt.timmtAx. The indication that I have been giventhrough stall% and this is just one of the big 10, ofcourse, is that the new mmr- ter will begin March 28. there will be 1 day offon April 3, and finals are to be held June 9 to 15. Now, I have checked the universities of California.Missouri. Texas. and Maryland. just to get simple samples, and I find that theyvary (mite considerably. with the Pacific Coast. Conference alsoking a June final time. Afissouri being.a May final time. Texas being a late May final time. Minnesota beinga June final time. Maryland king a mid-May final thin% So there isgreat variation. Mr. O'HARA. With respect to the 9 out of 10, I will makea contribu- tion to the gentleman's research. Michigan State Universitydoes not have final examinations until June. So that is2 out of the 10. appar- entiv, that do not have May final examinations. Then Mr. Dellenback's researchindicates that some of the other major basketball !wheals do not have final examinations,at least not in early May. UCLA is in June. With respect to that., I thought the intent of the rule didnot really have to do with the aettdemic program. but rather that theintent of the rule was to prevent extra season competition, whichwould permit so many roaches in some institutions to give additional training to their players and permit theta to getan unfair advantage, possibly at. the expense of a player who would not he playing theyear around. Wasn't. that the real reason for the out-of-seasonplay rule of NCA A ? Mr. ITANStN There are severalreasons. I cited one, which is to pro- tectt him from his own coach trying to organizea team. More than thatit is simply recognizing that basketball isa high- pressur sport, it. takes tremendous intensity and preparation and dedieation to play it, and that, this period has beenestablished, Mr. Chairman, for a long time. andevery year there are proposals by one institution or groups of coachesnr dIfferent elements of the NCAA at our convention which have sought to lengthen this, and they have been resoundingly turned down repeatedly. Also. there are careful restrictionson summer ramps to avoid hav- ing them become nothingmore than basketball leagues or basketball teams. 73 liar COPY AMIABLE Mr. 0'1 lau.t. I was wondering about that, because for some insti- tutions, obviously, May is a final exam time for the spring semester. If that is the ease., of course, all of those institutions then must have their final exit ins for the fall semester in the first. week of Dmember or the middle of Deeember. Yet there is apparently no ban on play dur- ing that period, is there? Mr. ITaNsENT. No; there is no ban, Mr. Chairman, because it k the start. of the season. Tf you will examine the schedules of I institu- thaw. there are voids therein:. The same thing. is true also in roughl the tune frotu.WOU kl say, January 20 to February 15. Mr. 011An.t. In each ease, you let the individual. institution dide. Now. what Mr. Doer testified to was that when lie 1nits touether a team for international competition out of the NA IA, he each institution to eonsult with the player and determine whether or oot, the schetbile of theinstitutionis mob. and the aeademic load being earned by the player is such, that his partieipation would lie appyopriate. Now, in light Of the tremendous variances between institutions and phi yeri4 anel their wouldn't that be an prink. way for .01i to approach the problem? Mr. TIAxsox. Well, our member institutions feel not. Mr. Chairman. we have some 750 mooing's, or which 01.12 Iry institutions. They feel that the best procedure is to adopt these broad restrictions to protect, the athlete and protect the individual inAitution, even from pre6sue front outsiders. and there have the NC.%e.otrucil have the' authority to 1%.:te tlsis Ieviriienhir 111111 ro 101110'tjOID4. Iiniiteel petitions, if in its best indgmeut. lifter receivillw illf0111111t1011 :11sHit competition, it deems this competition to be in the hest interest of the student athletes of the member institutions. but not to have one institution contacted by a meal promoter and do this on a Mr. CrIlm:A. Let me ask this. Let us suppose that the A AIT were to, when it chooses its team or chooses people it wants to invite to he part of this team. request the council for a waiver with respect to these particular Wouldn't it then he n1111)11101., following the preieednre you jest described, for the COOOt'll to their go out to the instil ntion in eneh ease and say: "A waiver has hPPII requested on behalf of a partienlar player. What is your opinion?" And then grant. or not grant. those waivers on an individual basis after you have made that. inquiry! Mr. liAxsEx. I think it would make the individual huntiries, imtd then grant the waiver on an neross-the-board basis. This is our procedure. I f the eompetition is well planned, well timed, and Ilona fide, soil well administered, then the council is not. saying, "You '.nd you may be in it, and nobody else." The council merely says eligible student athletes are advised that this competition is in their hest interest, and then it is an individual choice whether or not they shall play. Mr. O'ITAt. I would' think that maybe you wooled want to take different attitudes with respect. to different individuals, depending on what Institution they are attending. I eau see some reason, if they are in their thud exam period. and if arringentents cannot be made to take the tidal at some other time, 74 . I. vigvii4 TUB then I would think in that. pa rt ieula r individual's ease you might want to say, "No, he won't be permitted to participate." On the other hand, if it is a player from Minnesota or Michigan State or somewhere else, or UCLA, where they are not in their final exam period, they have several weeks, to go after the completion of the tour, there, it seems to me, you might, after consulting with the institution, be willing to grant the waiver, where you wouldn't in the case of someone at an institution where it was their final exam period. Don't you think that makes sense as an approach ? Mr. IltAxstm. I really don't know what the council's opinion on that would be, Mr. Chairman. I can only cite what it has adopted, not the council, but the member institutions have adopted as a procedure, and which they have utilized for many years to approve these competi- tions. I might add that, unlike Mr. Duer's organization, our institutions do not send teams out, as a rule, during final examinations. I can cite several examples where teams have missed competition because of final exams, although in many cases arrangements are attempted, but the scheduling is adjusted to the finals, rather than vire versa. Mr. O'HAnA. Mr. Dellenback, do you have any questions / Mr. DELLENBAM Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Do I understand correctly, Mr. Hansen, that the NBA draft is on April 16I Mr. HAxszic. I am sorry. I don't know that, sir. Mr. DEutxximca. Does anybody know when the pro draft is to be? That was may understanding, that that was the data Let us assume it were to be on that particular date: that is the day proposed by the AMY to be the beginning of the training, to get ready for that game on April 29. How will that affect amateur competition after the pro draft? Would the draft by itself, under your rules, or under the AAU rules, affect rights to participate in amateur competition thereafter, or would they have to undertake negotiations, or would they have had to sign acontract? What is it that would disqualify an amateur from further compe- tition? Mr. HANsEN. If he is an undergraduate merely being drafted as a senior, lie would not, sir. He would have to either obtain an agent or sign a contract. If he is a. junior or underclassman, and he asks that his name be placed in the professional hardship draft, he still is eligible until such time as they actually draft him through that hardship draft. Mr. DEMENDACK. It is not the action by the basketball pros that would take him out of an amateur situation. It would be that he would have had to sign something, either a contract or agency agreement. What if lie engaged in negotiations? Would that disqualify him? What, if lie acted as his own agent and started to talk it over with the team that might have drafted him? Mr. HANSEN. It is a little complicated as to how lie may approach this. For instance, lie may retain a lawyer and ask an attorney to ex- amine a contract, as long as the attorney does not proceed to nego- tiate a price with the team but he may have legal advice, he may dis- cuss, liee may talk, he mayinformi himself in preparingso. 0 75

Mr. 143.1.Exii.toc. If again my information is correct that April 10 is the key day. then you are saying that that would not of necessity disqualify any amateur, that the mere drafting would not interfere on the grounds of professionalism with his ct paeity to participate tliereafter. Mr. I Ltssim. Not in NCAA competition, sir. I cannot speak beyond that. Mr. 1)i.u,Exn.wK. Following down a little bit, Mr. I Nilsen, the line of questioning of the chairman alxmt this matter of the individual's school, or the individual athlete in conjunction with the school repre- sentatives nutking individual decisions, the type of thing that the NAIA was involved in testifying to earlier. How much discretionary authority and responsibility & you think it would be sound to give to individual schools and athletes? You indieated, i f I read you correctly, that the decisions, as the NCAA carries them out. are to make a broa(l scale decision which would apply to all schools that were qualified as NCAA institutions. Mr. HANszx. Which then does give the individual institution and the individual student full discretion. I might add. Mr. Dellenback, that we are a voluntary organization. We adopt the rules in open convention. Each university's delegate thereto is appointed by the president of the university. So it. is not a question of the NCAA making any of these decisions. The individual institutions have decided how they wish to administer this particular area that we are talking about. Mr. 143.1xx1tcx. Are you indicating. then. Mr. Hansen, that be- fore there could be any change in this situation as it now pertains, it would be necessary for the NCAA to change its rules? Mr. HAxszx. Yes, sir; it would be necessary for the NCAA at its convention to adopt a change of its constitution by a two-thirds vote. Mr. DELLEMBACK. Then under the presently existing rules, you could not take an individual school or an individual athlete and give that in- dividual, or in this instance those dozen individuals, if there be that many, the right to participate without disqualification in this Russian series. Is that correct? Mr. I Itxszx. Not entirely; not entirely. If the application was made for certification by the NCAA, the council could consider it, approve it on a broad scale, and then it would be up to the individual to make the decision. Mr. Dzi.i..ximoit. Under your present rules, you could not make the decision for any one individual per se, or for a Jozen individuals per sr. You would have to make a generic decision that would apply to all NCAA schools, and then whether or not an individual athlete within one of those schools would participate would be an individual or school division, but the decision by the NCAA could not be an individualized decision. It must be a brow' decision that applies to all NCAA schools? Mr. II.txszx. That is correct. We would not order players or coaches to go participtae. We would simply say the competition appears to be satisfactory. Mr. DzahmnAcx. I think I read you correctly. The last phrase comes along and throws me again. I assume you do not order them to do anything. Mr.HANSEN.No, sir. 21.1-7:16--71(1 flet "4. COPYAVAILABLE 76 Mr. DELLExii.wic. All you do is place certain prohibitions in certain instances, and you cannot remove that prohiition underyour con- stitution and rules, school by school or individual by individual. You Can remove that prohibition NCAA-wide, if, 'Weed, you elect to re- move it at all. Mr. ItANsgx. Exactly. ,1r. 14:1,i,xamit. You are of the opinion, i lien. if I read through thk correctly, that the individual school and the individual athlete should have a great deal of discretionary authority and responsibility. but it is the decision of your association that that individual athlete and individual sehool decision most,. of count', not come without first there having been the hie NCAA decision granting broad scale institu- tional-wide authority to do this kind of thing. Mr. II-A.m:N. Stating to the institution that this is a legitimate, well organized, well administered competition;yes, sir. Mr. DELLENIVWK. Nov, traditionally. whenvon make that kind of determination. how closely (10 you look at the individual competition? Do yon take any one of the other sports with which NCAA iseon- eerned ? you look very carefully at --do you hold individual hear- ings on thud, id prOpOSed ? Do you call witnesses before your executive board or before the council ? Mr. Ihxsr.x. We have an Extra Events Committee. Mr. Dellen- back, which does the administration of this on an annual basis. Each event. which is certified must file a complete finaneinl statement and complete form which Miriam that it has insurancecoverage, proper medical facilities available. and other administrative details. This is reviewed at the end of mil year, and all these particularre- quirements must be met. Then. before it is approved for next year. the committee must phys- ically net. and. of course. the eommittee has these reports. examines them. and does this on a inert- by -meet or event-by-event basis. Mr. Dr.i,i,v,ximeic. flow large is that. committee. Mr. Hansen? Mr. ItAxsitx. Six persons. sir. Mr. Dr.i.txximem. Is it difficult to call it together? Is itnecessary to set. a long time before ealling such a meeting? Or ran it be done on short. notice? Mr. ITAwsv.x. It traditionally meets three times a year, but when and if particular problems cone up. it can be called, sir. Mr. 1434.Exim.K. Would it be possible in this instance to call that committee together within WHIP 30-day rule,so that it could move within the next week or so if this were the procedure the A AV elected to follow SI Mr. 114%.sr.x. Yes: it could be culled. Mr. Dia,thismcit. So that you could (limply with your 20-dayre- quisite before the April 16 date which was given tous earlier, since this is only the th, I believe, of March ? Mr. ItAustx. Yes, sir, Mr. Dia,LuxnAex. Would the NCAA be willing to do that. if that in- deed were the action called for? Mr. INsioix. Yes, sir; I think the NCAA would be willing to call this s body, yes, sir. Mr. DELLtxtiAcx. Do you have any other procedure, shy of the meet- ing of that, eommittee, which could give this institutionwideor full

r or) membershipwide anthorityas is required under your constitution? Do you have any individual °Mee of the NCAA who has theanthill, ity to grant that. Sir. 'horn.. No, sir. The only authority under the constitutional provision is with the NCA A council. We litr:e two things in voiepd. For the matches to partieipate.the Extra Events Committee must certify the competit ion. Forthe stn dent.athletes ta participate, the NC.A omneil mustapprove thil 0/W- 1M- atoll. Mr. 143,taomArk. Are both the committee and the councilcapable of acting within it matter ofa few clays? Mr. 11.vssi:x. The council would be muchmore lliflicult. It. is Is per- sons, widely seattered. The question wonhl be: Wouhl it beneeessay to have the meeting ill person! Since we 110114t 11111'a speeitic pposal tipott v luh we are discussing the ground of meeting., I couldn't begin to guess. DELLKse.mK. There are times, however, when the councilis polled by telephone rather than all 1ti members getting together! Mr. II nirelyso.sir. Mr. 1 4a.taINBAck. But your constitution permits this? Mr. IIANREN. It is done on rare occasions. Mr. DmErInAck. Which I assumemeans it is permitted, because good counsel would prohibit any such action whichWits not proper under your rules and regulations. fit) you have answered my question. I assume, since it has transpired on certain occasions, it. must -be possible tinder vont. constitution. Mr. ItNsr..T. I am not sure, Mr. Dellenback, because 1 havenot participated personally in such telephone calls. Theymay have met On a confeirnee cull to discuss something. I tun not sure. I don't think it is a major problem. major point. Mr. DELLSNDACK. You think the time situation is such that this mat- ter could be taken care of within the time available., if, indeed. that were the decision that somebody were to make? Mr. linxruix. Yes, sir. Mr. 1)EW:701AM Under your constitution. if I understandput correctly, without that action being taken,you would not be able to give this authority nobody else could do it. t-o, under the of renown lives you have outlined no athlete could participate. Mr. ITxstm. That is correct, sir. Sir. DELLENILWIC. W01114 dna 111$0 neeessa ry if the decision were, rather than having an all-star team or a single national team, to be that if they play on the West Coast, they will bring in Long Bench State or UCLA, and if they were to play in the Mid-west, they would bring in Minnesota, if they were to play in the East. they would bring in North Carolina State or whomever else happened to he clmsen, it would he necessary to get that same kind of permission for any hull- vidlial team to participate? Mr. livviegic Yes. sir. Mr. Dr.u.p.xnAcx. What would be the feeling you would have. ns somebody who is as dem+ involved in this kind of thing. and very knowledgeable about it : Dull it. he better or worse in this type of situationand I am not now suggesting this be doneif n series of individual schools were to participate instead of trying to bring to- 78 weeks to practice? Wino. a national11,11111that would have 10 days or +2 Mr. HaxsEx. If the team were not exhausted,which it is going to be at, the particular time we are discussing, 1 thinkit would be better from a competitive standpoint, just because they kneweach other and can do more thingstogether, whereas a national team or an all-star team without experience is in a verydillieult position against this tremendously experienced Russian Wain. However, it doesn't. make any rarticulnrdifference from the aca- demic point, to whieh we are nt flressingourselves, and I cite you that in 1904 the Olympic ('onunittee puttogether what it thought wits a good idea ofhaving the UCLA. national championship tam phty, against other American all starsin a series of &flours, jug as this is, and every single undergraduate member ofthe UCLA team ended up in academic probation. Mr. Drat.rxmen. There are those thathope it will happen before the decision is fought. out in the nextfew weekends, if it is going to happen this year at all. I am not sure whether yon feel itwould be better or worse. You feel it is about on a par. Itwould take the same action on the putNc.t. whether it be the selection of 10 or 12 or1t players on a tuitional team, or whether itis tt series of individual teams. It wouldtake the same kind of action by the 'CAAboard. Mr. HANSEL Yes, sir. Mr. Drammen. Isthere any propesul that the NCAA would make in this situation, to field it team orteams to meet theRIISSiant4 that you would suggest to us? Mr. II.t.vsnx. lest sir. I haveindicated that spokesmen for major NCAA groups and collegebasketball interests indicate that they as mild love toplay the Russians in November andDecember, when the:, teams are ready, fresh, andcompetitive, that they would love to the Russians in the summer ut privytimes under things like the World University Games. But todo it with a television format at a bad time just because someonehas a TV show to produce is terribly unfair to the players. Mr. DELLENDACX. Mr. Hansen, putyourself in our chairs for a moment. There is obviously, and I nun not takingsides on this, there is a great deal of emotionalisminvolved on all sides of this problem be- cause of the history ofthe lnst few years, and people feel verystrongly and people feel very emotionally aboutthis. If one Ivere interested in mining out with aseries, do you feel that you are locked in onthe kind of proposal that you have nowjust made, or is there sow other possible resolutionof the situation which is before ns, shy of legislation ? You have heard several of us make the statementearlier that we would nmeh prefer that. Congress. even if ithas jurisdiction in this, field stay out of it. This is not somethingthat, some of us wtrild like to see happen. Yet tlwre it is, it becomes a notionalissue, and we may have to get into it on sonic ground or other, and we want. toavoid that, Is there anything else you wouldpropose? Mu. Ii,1114P.11. It Mein% to me that. a tour bythe Russians against the World I tuiversity teal!, this summer mightbe it very fine alterna- tive. dL

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STATEMENT OF EDWARD STEITZ, PRESIDENT, BASKETBALL FEDERATION OF THE =TED STATES OF AMERICA Mr. STEITZ Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Just for the record? I dowear at couple other Imskethail hats. The only reason I mention this, thongh, is because in questioningmy response will be based upon my involve- ment in these other matters so farns basketball is concerned. They have been alluded to today. I do happen to have servedas vice chairman for basketball in the paw Olympiad and have beenon the U.S. Basketball Committee for the past 8 years. I have beena menthe,. of the hoard of directors of the 1*.S. Olympic Committee foryears and executive director for4 years, and lin ve served on the Administration Committee and Drug Abuse Committee. I do have another labor of love. Iant editor and national interpreter of the Basketball Wiles of the U.S. and Canada. I have no prepared statement, sir. I would like to speak fromnotes with your kind perinission and basically the documentthat I presented ea die,. to the Chairman's aide is one of a chronological history of the divine stemming from 19r18. With that permission I would liketo 1)111.0111t the t for t he record. Mr. OnutA. Without objection it will be entered into the record at this point. 11 he document referred to follows:] 81 BEST COPY AVAILABLE

HISTORY OF DASKETRAEL FRORRATION INVOLVRAIRNT IN INTERNATIONAL DISPUTE WITII AAU The Amateur Athletic Union (AAU) had been the United States member in the International Amateur Basketball Federation (FIBA) since VIDA was formed In the arid- 1030's. Subsequent to World War II, the AAIT's involvement in organised amateur basketball decreased substantially. With the dissolution of the National Indus- trial Basketball league and demise of such teams as the Philips Oilers, Akron Goodyears and Peoria eaten)! Ilats. quality AAU teams disappeared. As a result, the AA1* National tournament has been reduced primarily to "pick up" tennis, and teams entered by other organizations (e.g., Armed Forces, NAIA and California Junior College Association). While the AAU basketball program struggles for survival, the school-college program has prospered and basketball Is more popular than ever. The NCAA championship finals annually are sold out months in advance, high school and the nallottal junior college athletic association tournaments play to capacity crowds and regular It4011 basketball attendance continues to increase. Ironically, the A 4.0 reumined the official United States member In rim al- though the overwhelming majority of amateur basketball is represented by the Basketball Federation of the United States of America (11PUSA) up until the World Congress at Munich, 1972 ruled differently. The National Association of Basketball Coaches (USA), at its convention in 51nrch. 1000, precipitated the form:glom of IWUSA. The coaches, disgusted with the AAU's mismanagement of and disregard for basketball, asked that a more FPNISMAIIIP organization represent United States in PIRA, The conches requested that the National Basketball Committee, the rules-making body for basketball. Initiate appropriate action to replace the AA'? in PIRA. At that tune, the AAIT was a member of the National Basketball Committee. Following is a chronological listing of events since that time: .1060Dr. Edward S. Steitz, representing the National Basketball Committee, appeared before the VIDA Congress at the Nymph. flames in Home. The Cottunittee requested that it be accepted as the !'ulna! States member in FIIIA. relaeing the AAU. 'VIII. NW' proposed to form the Basketimil Federntiott of tile 1.8A, Major NISI(1031ii gl'111111,4 would be represented and the organisation would be struetured so as to insure impartial. fair and effective administration of international inv-Itetball eotepetition involvintt the United Slates. After reviewing the NBC proposal. 10111A appointed Louis Wilke. an A. representative and ?IBA vice-presideill. as a convener in an attempt to es- tahlIsh a plan nottnally agreeable to the Nile and AM'. Mr. Wilke was given moil the end of 1881 to complete his negotiations, The first meeting between the two groups was held in Chicago. October 2, 1981. NTW proposed the establishment of the Basketball Federation, its out. lined above. The AM' plan milled for the establishment of the Basketball Conn- ell of the AAR The (Immoi would serve in an advisory capacity to the AAU, lint the AAr would retain the International franehise. A seeond meeting wits held in Washington. D.C. on DIVPIIIIIPP O. 1001. After the two groups indleated that they were nimble to reach agreement on the peoistsuls !Previously submitted. Mr. Wilke offered a third proposal. The two parties were to study the new plan and submit their olimervationa at another meeting selasluied for Mott ry. 1902. in the interim. however. Mr. Wilke unexpectedly paused awn y.

1002 May 12, al' oreanisations interested In hemming (*hatter members lu MONA were incited to an orgonisational meeting, Hob the AM null NotionalAs- soelatlnnn of Intercollegiate Athletics (NATA1 were in attendance and ton r- tIeltottql In the voting of n proposed emudittition. th later &Allied twine. Imrship in 1011/SA. July 1. IlFrFIA was formallV organised. Jolt. 211-24. of:tie:rimsd representatives of BFTISA's constituent.y ratified the Constitution and fleeted n slate of officers.

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During the maim, period the AA(' bus been guilty of numerous violations which are on the with BFUSA's expeutive director. Since 1000, IIVUSA has submitted three formal applications to VIDA for mta- bership. The FIBA Congress considered the matter in August 1072, and min ni- moUsly ruled that the AAU was no longer the international representative or. franchise holder for the U.S.A. In Fl BA. The World Congress further ruled that If a new organization was not estab- lished by March 31, 10'13. the U.S.A. wield have no representation in VIDA. FIBA also decreed lit Its central hoard decision in Munich that the following. listed under paragraph 3. would prevail : "The International Basketball Board of the U.S.A. f111111 reuses to exist in its present form at the present date. However. the President of the inn hi asked to continue to fulfill the tasks of that body until further motive, and is authorized to secure the cooperation of 1111111V11111111, and organization, to that effect and to decide on measures of an administrative haraeter that will make possible the continuation of basketball netivIties not involving the national representative team of the United States of Amer lea." Dr. Edward S. Steitz. President of the Basketball Federation of the United States of America. initiated a meeting on November 8. 11172 In accordance with the inundate and resolution passed by FIBA at. the World Congress of Basketball at Munich on August 24, 1072. which stated that "the AAU and the Basketball Federation of the ITSA and their constituent bodies terminate the controversy that has affeeteil the proper conduit of International basketball activities in- volving the United States of America, and this before March 31, 1973, possibly by forming an Amateur Basketball ASMOCI101011 of the United Steps of America with membership open to nil national bodies conducting an effective basketball programme In the United States of Amerien." Organizations that viell:,181'. ta national viable program in the sport of basket- ball were Invited to attend the initial meeting. Organizations such as the Amateur Athletic Union. National Collegiate Athletic Association. National Junior College Athletic ANSOPlat 1016 Toting Men'm Christian Asslielation. Collegiate 1'iminds- sionene Association. American Association of Health. Phymical Education and Recreation. National Association of Basketball Coaches. National Basketball Rules Committee. Armed Services Sports t otmril, Women's Basketball Associa- tion and the National Association for Intercollegiate Athletics. Dr. Clifford IL Fagan was elected pro tem for the purpose of forming a new organization. Subsequent meetings were held on Deeember O. 1972 and :now ary 29, 1973 he the purpose of adopting and approving a constitution for the Amateur Basketball Association of the United States of America. A constitution was approved based on a onevote-per-organizatIon philosophy on January 29. 1073 by the National Collegiate Athletic Up:Aviation. National Junior College Athletic Association. National Federation of High School Assoeln- Units. Basketball Federation of the United Stales of America. American Associa- tion for Health. Physical Education and Recreation. All national organizations conducting a program related to basketball are invited to become members. ThP door Is open for any organization that meets the criteria for active or allied membership. Mr. Strocrz. The Basketball Federation of the United States of America is the largest amateur basketball body in the U.S.A. and has only one interest. basketball. It is not going to deal with the Kheel Report which concerned itself with track or any other sport. Our concern is basketball. It does not attempt to administer com- petition in several sports. thus dividing its interest and therebywe ening its effectiveness. The Basketball Federation conforms to FIBA's eonstitution which indicates that the governinf body or national fed- erationmust.eoneent itself with onesportant only one sport and, of course in our case. Mr. Chairman, it is basketball. The purpose of the Basketball Federation is to coordinate the efforts of all amateur basketball interests in the linked States and to promote basketball throughout the world by eneouratzing international com- petition and other world-wide exchanges. It is the only U.S.A. orga- nization which can provide the variety of quality and quantity of 84 competition and the leadership requested bybasketball leaders of other countries. The leadership of the Basketball Federationof the U.S.A. is eon,- posed of some of the most prominent andlearned men in the field of basketball. The Basketball Federationrepresents over 85 percent of the highly organized amateur competitive basketballplayed in the with over 100 different organizations represented. Itnow rep- resents every segment of basketball throughout itspresent membership. Just a few of them include: (1) NCAA with over 719 universities and colleges includingevery major university. This organization has 2,000highly competitive. teams. 4,000 coaches, 4,000 referees, and 20,000 intramuralteams. Eleven of 12 of the U.S.A. Olympic BasketballTeams come from the 1114'I rSA universities or colleges. (2) The National Federation of State High Schools(14-1S year olds) representsover 21,000 high schools with 60,000 well organized and highly competitive teams, 120.000 coaches,66,000 referees and ' 0;1,000 col n pet it i ve intramural teams, (8) The National Junior Colleges (18-21year olds) represent 513 institutions with 900 teams of internationalcompetitive caliber. 1N0 mel les. 140 referees. (4) The National Basketball Coaches Association includes1.800 coaches who do a tremendous jobenhancing the image of the I *nited States through the sport of basketba;i. Other organizations in the Basketball Federationinclude the YMCA, National Amateur Basketball Association whicheomluets tournament for out of school competition people. Women's Basketball Assoektion of America, International Association of ApprovedHas- ketbali °Dials, 12,001) some members, American Associationfor Health. Physical Recreation and Recreation, Associationfor Inter- collegiate Athletics for Women which conducta most highly calibered basketball h.,rograin froma tournament point of view, the Collegiate Conimissioners Association which represents 11 conferencesand 210 institutions. the National Little College Athletic Association andthe Natim..t1 Basketball Committee of the United States. In total, we. in the Basketball Federation, have 04,900 highlyorga- nized teams, '20,900 roaches. 100.000 referees mul 708.000 competitive intramural teams. I point that. out, sir, to giveyou somewhat of an idea of the scope of our organization. From 1970 until now the Basketball Federationteams have played in the short 2 years shire the IBM 1,479 internationalcontests, two out of three abroad. All of the previously mentioned eompetition has been solely under the sanction of the Ittisl,ethall Federationof the United States, Infaet, the Basketball Federation membership has committed itself to the proposition that MAW of its members will compete interna- tionally malt r any other sanction than that of the Basketball Federa- tion both now and in the future, sir. The BVVSA is promoting basketball throughout the world hypro- viding administrative. lraclershipr, basketball literature, films and by the eontriltions of its trained leadership in emulueting clinics. dem- onstrations and eonsulting services in teeliniques of play and offici- at ing. 85 The BFUSA membership has offered through its present communi- cations to promote and sponsor international competition which will provide more than 150 I3FUSA teams the opportunity to enjoy com- petition against teams from over 50 countries. We right now are working with the Soviets, w th the Yugoslays. Czechoslovakians, Brazilians, to come into the United States to play during our season and we in turn to reciprocate and go to their coun- tries, to conduct not just competition, sir, but to try to provide some of the leadership from the country which gave birth to the game of basketball. No other U.S. organization has demonstrated it. has the resources or personnel available to organize such a significant program of inter- national competition and exchange. Just a little bit. of history if I may, sir. In 190g the FIBA Congress, meeting at the Olympic Games in Mexico City in October. meal- nixed that the AAU had failed to discharge its responsibility to unify all basketball interests in the United States. FIBA appointed a five-man panel of investigation to visit the United States in an attempt to reconcile the differences between the parties involved in the basketball controversy-namely AAU and BFUSA. The FIBA panel conducted 2 days of hearings on January 81-1..ph- miry 1, 1969, at Olympic House in New York City. Numerous orF,a- nizations were given an opportunity to make presentations outlining their competitive program. The 1111, panel tinnily recommended the eQtablishment of an Inter- national Basketball Board ---1 lilt -- composed of 10 representatives of BFITSA and a like number from the AATT. Ben Carnevale. then athletic director of New York University, was appointed by FIIIA to net. as chairman with the lover to east the deciding vote in ease of a tie. FIBA stated that. the TIM would become its de facto representative in the United States although AATT would continue to hold member ship in FMA. Each organization, the AM" and BFITSA, would as- sume responsibility for arranging and sanctioning international eon- petition for its members. IBB approval would and then must be secured. Olympic. Pan - American and world games competition would be exempt from IBB approval. This arrangement was agreed on unanimously by the AATT and the basketball federation.will be very happy to submit the consti- tution for your perusal. It was stipulated that the ?BB would submit a report at the time of the TX World Congress of FIBA in Mmlie regarding who was to be a. member of the international body who would represent the United States of America. Initially, BFITSA declined to accept FIBA's proposal. A BFITSA enuens was conducted in Olympic HMV and was attended by Dr. 11. William Jones. secretary general of FTBA. Dr, Jones explained that it would be diMeult at the time for an In- ternational organivation to replace the AATT as the TT.S. member of VIDA. He reasoned that if the TUB were formed, it could reeommend that the AATT be replaced by BFTTSA and that FM A would accept such a. recommendation, 86 BESTCOPYAVAILABLE Dr. Jones was advised that in all probability the vote in favor of liFUSA would be 11 to 10, Ile responded by specifically stating that if the vote was 11 to 10, he personally would make it 12 to 10 and FIBA would accept the recommendation to replace the AMY with BFUSA. Clifford B. Fagan, then president of BFLTSA, indicated that 1114TSA. would accept. the 'BB proposal only through the Olympic (Wines. The 11311 was formally organized and has been in operation since the spring of 1969. During this period, BFUSA has made every at- tempt to abide by the constitution and bylaws of the IBB and has fol- lowed the procedures developed for the approval of international coninet it ion. I am sorry to say during the same period the AMY hasbeen,uilty of numerous violations which are on file with BFUSA's executive di- rector. I have a document with me if you would like me to submit it for the record which indicates that harm was done both financially and from a reputation point of view by a memorandum going out of the AMT office indicating the rest of tile world was not to deal with the school college community in arranging international competition, that it was a violation, which was not the truth. We presented that to Dr. Jones and Dr. Jones was astounded and in- dicated that he would handle the situation. We, in turn, sent a memo- randum around the world saying this was not true and at the World Congress of Basketball in Munich, the rest of the world substantiated the point we made. Since 1960 the basketball federation has submitted three formal ap- plicatiwis to FII3A for membership. The FII3A Congress considered the inntter in August 1972, and unanimously ruled that the AMU would no 'longer be the international representative or franchise holder forthe lilted States in FIFA. I have a copy of that to submit to you. sir, if you would like. The World Congress further ruled that if anew organization was not established by March 31, 1973, the United States of America would have no representation in FIFA. FIIIA also decreed in its central board decision in Munich that the 'following, listed under paragraph 3, would prevail: The InternationalBasketball Board of the United States of AmerleaIBB ceases to exist In its present form at the present date. However. the president of the Hill Is asked to continue to fulfill the tasks of that body until further notie. and Is authorized to swore the etooperation of individuals and organiza- tions to that effect and to decide on measures Of an administrative character that will make possible the eotinuation of basketball activities not involving the Hatband representative team of the United States of America. [The document referred to follows :]

FEDERATION 11113DIATIONALF: HAHRETRALL AMATK111----INTERMATIOXAL AMATEUR HASID:TRW, FtnosttATtox

CENTRAL WARR Text of resolution approvedby thethil World Congress on Bent I' /Ii' of Agenda un August 24, 1972,Thepresent text has been approved by the Central Thin rd on Septembern,11)72, 1. The Amateur Anthill'. Union oftheUSA mid the Onsketioall Federation of the 1'S.% and their constituent bodies mire invited to terminate the controversy AMIABLE. 87 BEST COPY that has affected the proper conduct of international basketball activities involv hag the United States of America, and this before March 31, 1973 possibly by forming an "Amateur Buidestball Association of the USA" with membership open to all national bodies ?ondneting an effective basketball program in the lotted States of America. 2. In case no agreement h. riveted, the affiliation of the United States to will be automatically suspended on April 1, 1973. The Basketball Com- mittee of the National Olynq le Committee of the USA will loft authorised to continue to supervise all basketball mutters related to the participation of the rutted States in the Basketball Olympic Tournament and in the basketball tournament of the Van -Amer can Mmes. The Basketball Committee of the National °lymph. Committee fit the USA will he requested to consider assuming similar responsibility for the participation of the United States he the World Championships. 3. The International Basketball Board of the USA (I.B.B.) ceases to exist hi its present form at the present date. 'however. the President of the I.B.B. is asked to continue to fulfill the tasks of that body until farther notice, and is authorized to secure the ooeration of Individuals and organizations to that effect and to decide on measures of au administrative character that will make possible the continuation of basketball activities not involving the national representative 41111 of the United States of America. 4. 1.1.1.11.A. remain at the disposal of all boodles concerned with inter- national basketball in the United States of America. to facilitate the solution of the emit roversy by all possible means. Mr. Sum. I. as president of the Basketball Federation of the I 'lilted States of America, initiated a meeting on November 8, 1972, in acconlance with the mandate and resolution passed by FIBA at the World Congress of Basketball at .Munich on August 24, 1972, which stated that ; The AAP and the llasketball Federation of the United States of America 111111 their constituent WIMPS are invited to terminate the controversy that has affected the proper tending of international basketball activities involving the 1'1111(11 States of America. and this before March 31. 1973. possibly by forming an Amateur Basketball Association of the United States of America with member- ship open to all national bodies conducting an effective basketball program in the United States of America. Organizations that conduct a national viable program in the sport of basketball were invited to attend the initial meeting. Organizations such as the Amateur Athletic. Union, National Collegiate Athletic Association, National Junior College Athletic Association, Young Men's Christian Association, Collegiate Commissioners' Association, American Association of Health, Physical Kdnention and Recreation, National Association of Basketball Coaches, National Basketball Rules Committee. Armed Services tlirough Interservire Sports Com- mittee, Women's Basketball Association of America and the National Association for Intercollegiate Athletics. r.S. Collegiate Sports (council World University Gimes. National Amateur Basketball Association. Nationel Federation of High School :Athletic Associa- tions. and the National .Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics. Dr. Clifford II. Fagan was elected chairman pro tem for the pur- pose of forming a new organization. Subsequent meetings were held on December 8.19172, and January 29, 1973. for the purpose of adopt- ing end approving a constitution for the Amateur Basketball Associa- tion of the United States of Amerien, A constitutio* Wits approved based on a one-vote-per-organization philosophy on January 29. 1973. by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, National junior College Athletic Association, National

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011/eer:s so et ion I. itfloasrA of the Assoriation shall be l'rellilent. 1114.1'resiilcnt,Secretary and TIT:Iill*Pr. I Illivers shall he an eligibly yepreselititilye Ofa meadow organization, ;4Hisao '1'111. term of each ottieer shall be fain r (41 years. 8cytif,o 3. The 1.11hrrr. of the A:-s41:.iiitlon shall be elect 1.d 111 the AAWIciplitin'Aaunnal tat" t tog olhing the quadremilid meeting 411' The istlietstA shall issome their official ditties immediale 111111111 may be (MIA lir ripolim at tiny 1110410g of 111e Council. AMU.: vIt E.Welitire Suction /. There shall he an Execooltre Committee eonsistina of the tol.,of the .1sste elm 14.11 and three (3 at large iceinliers duly elected bythe l'o11111ii. tv111. gnu:11140 limier the same st1111111111111111:4 the flifirPrS. or office of the three at large menoloers of the Execoilve Committee shall run coneurrently with theirterm of office on the Connell.

The Exeentive I'ominittee shall be authorized to handle the lOosiliest4aflalis of the 1A:400110M between the animal or special meetings of the entitle%except as otherwise provided by the Constitution. The Executive Committee shalt have alitliorliy to prepare the budget unit 11111ult it to the Council for approvalnt rash alumni meeting. 'rile Executive Committee shall, with Council approval, have authority' to employ an Exceptive Director and such other personnelas may he necessary to rotainet the littsiness and administer the program of the 1 ion. The ENeelllive DIreetor shall be the executive officer of the Association whom. duties shall 144. to direct and administer tilts lassintssa and program of the Atolocla. 111 netoortionve with the authority delegated to him by action of the Council ;11111 as iiireeled by the Executive Colewittee.

ARTIVGE vItt bane* al °Seem Neelimi 1. Tile PEPsideill slitill preside at all meetings of the Association and the Executive runanittee anti, in general, shall perform the duties incident to his Wilt*. scriffin. J. '1'114. VieeIiresitietit shall perform the duties of the President during the 1'm dent's absenee or inability to act.

4 AVAILABLE 00 BESTCOPY Section 8. The Secretary shall keep the records of all meetings of the Association and the Expeutive Committee. lie shall serve all notices of meetings and, in general, per- form the duties incident to his office, section 4, The Treasurer shall keep full and accurate account of all monies received and shall deposit the same in a national bank in the name nod to the credit of the A..soeiation as prescribed by the Executive Committee. He shall disburse the Name under the direction of the Association and shall present at each annual meeting a written Treasurer's Report.

ARTICLE IX 8:retinue Nction I. The annual meeting of the Association shall be at the close of the basketball seem'', at a time and pimp determined by vote of the Executive Committee. .%.retion special meetings of the Connell may be called at the diseretioa of the President and shall be milled upon the written request of the majority of the member organizations. seetiOn 3. A majority of the total Connell membership shall constitute a quorum. ARUM X Duties and powers Ncriinn 1. It shall be the duty of the Association to carry out the regulations of PIRA within the area of jurisdiction of the Association. eNertirot The Association shall assume all the duties and powers delegated to it by VIDA. suction 3, The Associstion shall elect from among its members the omelal delegate or delegates to the scheduled meetings of Pi BA which it is invited or eligible to tablet. The delegates shall have full power to act on behalf of the Associatlou. scetion The Association shall elect from among its members the °Metal representative or representatives of the Olympic. RasketballCommittee of the United States null 1,1 mach other Olympic Committees to which it may be entitled to membership. Neetbot. The Association shall he responsible for the rules and regulationsnot SpliCin tally 441%161141 by RA, whereby approval for basketball competition between its members and other countries may be secured, xectitat it. "1 glen" haskethmll competition between membersof the Association and other countries will not be permitted without the approval ofthe Association. 'reams participating in chimed international competition shall advisethis organization of, ill IlliV111111',this 141'1414S7. Certification for competition in tics open category shallbe administered and supervised by the organizations holdiag membershipIn the Association as the representative of this t egory. i. The Ammomiltion shall distribute completeinformation concerning prime& rem tool requirements for the approval of internationalcompetition to all member orminizatiotot represented In the Association and to allothers who may be affected by such preeedures and requirement, 91 BEST COPY AVAILABLE ARTICLE XI Standing and Special Committees Section 1. All committees shall be appointed by the President and shall carry out the duties as owns"' by the President. Committee chairmen shall meet the same qualifications as the elected officers. .cotton 2. Committees shall be appointed as needed.

ARTICLE XII Finances Section 1. DuesAututal dues for each organization holding active membership shall be suo for the first voting representative and $2,000 for each additional voting representative up to a maxituum of (4) additional for a grand total of five (5). Section 2. Annual dues for allied membership shall be $100. Section 3. Additional assessments may be levied on the constituent active members by the Council us the necessity arises. Such assessment shall be in proportion to each orgunization's permitted representation in excess of itsfirst voting representative. Section4. There shall be no assessments levied against allied members. Atrium sui Amendments Section1. This Constitution may be amended by a two-thirds vote of the total votes of Council, either at the Association's annual meeting or at a special meeting called for that purpose. In either case, written notice of the proposed amendment shall have been mailed to all members at least thirty (80) days prior to the meeting.

ARTICLE XIV Dip Lam Section 1. The Council may adopt or amend any By-Law not inconsistent with the pro- visions of this constitution. THE BYLAWS OF THE AMATEUR BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION OF THE UNITED STATES OP AMERICA

ARTICLE I Section 1. Open International Competition. (a) Before a team Call engage in international competition, permission for such competition must be secured from the association. (b) Whenever a team representing the United States plans a foreign tour, or a Warn representing another country plans a tour of the United States, the financial responsibility regarding expenses must be clearly de- fined. Evidence of the financial arrangements must be presented to the Association when permission for competition is requested. (e) The schedule of games, itinerary and a financial report of the com- petition must be filed with the Association within thirty (30) days after the conelusion of the tour. Approval for international competition must be secured at least thirty(80) days before a team's departure for such competition. 02

Nedlon No competition which im promoted for the purpose of personal profit will be approved. Date: Areucterwa FUR51E1110341111' IN THE MINIUM BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION Or TUE UNITED STATES Please Indicate the type of membership your organization is applying for with this application: Active Allied Tiwre shall be two classifications of membership: Active and Allied. Active members shell consist of qualified national organizations which are responsible for a competitive basketball program and are active in advancing the sport of basketball. Allied members shall consist of other national, non-competitive organizations with an Interest in basketball, or competitive basketball groups which are less than national in scope and which cannot be accommodated elsewhere in the constituency of the association. Name of organisation: Mailing address:

Telephone number: National officers (Current) : 1. Does your organization have a constitution? (Please include a copy of the constitution.) 2. Pow many members, institutions, agencies or organisations are within your organization? 3. When was your organization formed? 4. Does your organisation conduct a national championship? 5. Does your organization conduct district and/or regional, state and local championships? 6. What has been your role in international competition during thelast four (4) years? 7. Does your organization employ a full-time director? 8. Other contributions: (a) Makes instructional material and techniques available toIts mem- bership?yes no (b) operates an official's development and training program? yes 110 (e) Contributes to the basketball rules and legislative process? yes.. no (d) Other basketball relatedcontributions:

Signature: (Executive Officer). Date: Mr. STEITZ. TIME1C you; 31 organizations in addition to those men- tioned should have in their very hands at the _present time invitations ami applications to become members of the ABA of the United States 03 of America, to consummate the March 31 deadline, sir. Thusyou can see we believe we have done everything to promote the sport of bas- ketball in a well-organized and democraticmanner and in so doing will enhance the image of the United States through the medium of basketball. In conclusion, gentlemen, it is my personal thesis thatwe would not be hero today if the Amateur Athletic Union had seen tit to attend any of the three meetings and to show in good faith they are willing to join the ABA. Also summarizing:, sir, I would like tosay this, representing the Basketball Federation interest in the United States of AmericaI couldn't agree more with the point taken by the NCAA thatthe tour was ill-conceived, ill-planned, ill-timed, and representeda dis- service to our tine athletes, the American public, and the competitive image of the United States of America. Mr. O'HAna. Thank you. Did you receivean invitation to a meeting called by the U.S. Olympic Committee for thepurpose of forming such a group? Mr. STEITZ. Thank you for asking that question. As president of the Basketball Federation, I didnot receive an in- vitation. I would like to comment, sir. The U.S. OlympicCommittee under charter granted by Congress, is charged with therespon- sibility solely of the Olympic and Pan American competition,and that is all. I could also point out that the people who deniedor turned down the invitation felt the timing was bad in that particularcase. More so, the Basketball Federation was not invited to attend and it feltthat the U.S. Olympic Committee was notone of the two disputants as the resolution of MBA had unanimously been passed. Mr. O'HAna. Did you receivean invitation in any capacity? Mr. STEITZ. No, sir. Mr. O'HARA. There were a number ofpersons who were invited who chose not to attend, is that right I Mr. Sum. Yes, sir. Mr. O'HARA. There werea number, there were at least one or more groups that were invited to a meeting that you called that chose not to attend, is that right Mr. STerrz. Yes, sir, the Amateur Athletic Union, JohnKelly, president at the time, wroteme a letter. The letter was one of wonder- ing where the authority was forme as president of the Basketball Federation to initiatea meeting and I indicated to Mr. Kelly that Dr. Fagan, the executive director of the High School Associationsand myself had met with Dr. Jones, the executive director,because I was the person who articulated for the Basketball Federationat the Munich games, sir, and I wanted to besure as to what was passed. Incidentally, I went with Mr. Carnevale witha member of the In- ternational Press to be sureas to what was remelt officially. In the dis- cussion that Dr. Fagan and I had had with Dr. Joneswe said, "Look, we want to get this show on the road, we want to resolve or problems." We had some anxieties that the A AU would not initiate the call of the meeting because we felt they had nothing to gain. Asa matter of fact, at the World Congress when the president had asked whether the two disputants could get together and resolve the problemand 04 come up with a now organization, when asked thequestion, I immedi- ately rose to my feet and said, "immediately, sir." Whereas the AA1J representative, 11Ir. Lyons commented, "No way." So wehave some anxieties about the Amateur Athletic Union initiating a call of the meeting. With that mind, as president of the Basketball Federation, we ex- tended invitations for everyone to come. Then Dr. Fagan was unani- mously elected pm-tem chairman. Ile carried on for threemeetings. Mr. O'HARA. Air. Dellenback, do you have a question? Mr. DELLENBACK. Mr. Chairman, do you plan to stop the hearing at this stage, or are we going to come back after we catchthis vote? What is your plan Mr. O'IlAtiA. What is your view on this? Mr. DELLENBACK. I think we probably are going to have to stay on the floor long enough to take a couple of measures up. Thereis at least one vote, probably more. It will be difficult, unless youhave a meeting proposed for later this afternoon. Al I% O'HARA. No; I think we should close our hearing. Mr. DELLENBACK. May I ask Mr. Steitz, did that 1973constitution proposed for the ABA provide that the individual constitutions of any of the member organizations would be overridden Mr. Snrrz. No, sir. Mr. DELLENBACK. Everybody II ho was in the ABA wouldhave cer- tain responsibilities. For example, the NCAA would still have to com- ply with its own individual requirements as would everybodyelse? Mr. Sun& You are correct. It builds in the protectionthat each organization shall determine its own rules of eligibility. Mr. DELLENBACK. Did all 31 members you indicated wereinvited to become members of the ABA have one vote? Mr. &Enz. They would have one vote if theyqualified as active members under the criteria established, they are nationalviable organizations. Mr. DELLENBACK. Were multiple votes and specialresponsibility given to the largest organizations like the NCAA? Mr. STErrz. If because of financial reasons, sir. someonewanted to buy up to five votes, they could do this. If the AAU chose todo it, that is their privilege. But there is no such thing thatexists such as the Solger amendment that appears in the U.S. OlympicCommittee which guarantees anyone a set majority because they havethe controller players, facilities and everything. It is one vote for anorganization. r. DezmnActc. Just this oneprovision for special treatment you are talking about? Mr. STzrrz. Yes, sir. Mr. DittLENBACK. Thank you very much. Mr. O'IIARA. Thank you. Mr. Steitz. Today's hearingis adjourned, subject to the call of the Chair. C" Thereupon, at 1 p.m., the hearing was adjourned, to reconvene at the call of the Chair.]

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MONDAY, KARON 18, 1073

HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES, SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON EDUCATION OP TILE Comatrms ON EDUCATION AND LABOR, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 9:80 a.m.,ursuant to call, in room 2261, Rayburn House Mice Building, Hon. James G. O'Hara (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives O'Hara, Huber, Dellenback, Erlenborn, and Kemp. Also present : Congressman Peyser. Staff member. present.: A. el. Franklin, counsel; Elnora Teets, eierk; Rosanne Aceto, assistant clerk; and Dr. Robert Andringa, mi- nority counsel. Mr. O'HARA. The Special Subcommittee on Education of the House Committee on Education and Labor will come to order. This morning, the subcommittee resumes hearings on legislation that has, as its goal. the safeguarding of the rights of student-athletes and the rights of college and university coaches. The fact that we are here todayconsidering legislation that deals with this subjectis a matter of disappointment to me, and I know to the other members of the subcommittee. Two weeks ago today, the subcommittee held an inquiry into the latest aspects of a dispute between the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the Amateur Athletic Union --a dispute which seri- ously imperils the college careers, and area perhaps the professional careers, of young Americans engaged in intercollegiate and interna- tional athletic contests. The purpose of the inquiryand of an extended private sessiorf which Mr. Dellenback and I bad with the representatives of these respective bodieswas to seek some area of agreement., that would take the student-athlete out of the middle of this controversy between the NCAA and the AMT. We were aware that others before us had tried to mediate this dia- per and had failed, And the fact that we are here today, considering legislation, is a measure of our own failurefor it had been our firm purpose to avoid the legislative route, if at all possible, in the resolution of the long, long war between these two athletic organizations. Jost to review the record briefly: Our bearing on March ti was triggered by the fact that, a forth. eoming t%S. tour of the Soviet Olympic basketball team was being jeopardized because some of our finest college athletes were being te:;) 96 denied the opportunity to compete as members of the American team solely because these two athletic organizations, the AAU and the NCAA, were engaged in a power struggle over who was to control and profit from international basketball competition. In both the public and the private sessions, we sought to narrow the area of disagreement between these two bodiesbecause the dis- agreement WAS: in our opinion, detrimental to the student- athletes, detrimental to institutions of higher learning, and detrimental to the best interests of the United States. When the sessions were ended, Mr. Dellenback and I expressed the hope thatwhile it might not be possible to solve the short-run prob- lem of the upcoming U.S.-U.S.S.R. basketball gamesthere was rea- son to hope that we could achieve a long-range solution to the prob- lem, and thus protect the student-athletes who were the ones who stood to su ffer most if this dispute continued. Our optimism about achieving a long-range solution was based on what we thought to be the desire by all parties to avoid any more of the bloodletting that has, quite candidly, accompanied the dispute between the NCAA and the AAU down through the years. In the pastwhen General MacArthur mediated the dispute, and when Mr. Theodore Klieel, a well-known arbitrator appointed by former Vice President Humphrey mediated the disputethe future of America's Olympic efforts was at stake, and so the emphasis was on the need to find an immediate, if temporary, accommodation between these warring factions. The result was that the basic power struggle the basic economic strugglewas put on the back burner. And there it continued to simmeras it had simmered for years prior to these attempts by the Government to find a temporary solu- tion that would permit us to field Olympic teams as representative of America's athletic best as possible. So we opted for abandoning the short-range answer this time -$f that proved the only wayin the hopes that we could come up with a permanent resolution of this dispute. While we were awaiting memoranda from both sides, however, the situation deteriorated. The AAU had scheduled a track and field meet in Richmond, Va., last Friday and SaturdayMarch 18 and 17a track and field meet that was going to pit the best U.S. amateur athletes against the b st from the Soviet Union. Without warning, the NCAA struck against these games. Studentathletes at schools affiliated with the NCAA were told, in effect that their schools would have to punish them if they participated in these track and field events. The schools were told that if they did not take action against the student-athletes, then the NCAA would use its very considerable eco- nomic sanctions against the colleges and universities whose under- graduates took part in the meet. College athletic directors were, in effect, ordered by the NCAA to recall coaches who were training the young American amateurs for the Richmond meet. Some athletes and some coaches bowed to the NCAA's dictates. And we lost the meet to the Russians. 97 Some young student-athletes courageously defied the NCAAand even had to go into court in Alexandria and obtain a temporary re- straining. order against the NCAA, to prevent that organization from taking adverse action against them simply because they chose to par- ticipate as representatives of their country in competition with athletes from abroad. There will be a hearing in U.S. District Court in Alexandria tomor- row on the petitions of Mr. Samara, a student-athlete from the Uni- versity of Pennsylvania and Mr. Walker, a student-athlete from Adel- phi College. Because that court case is pending, these hearings will not today get into the cases of Mr. Samara and Mr. Walkeralthough the sub- committee hopes to hear from one or both of them before these hear- mgs have concluded. We will, however, get into the.general subject of NCAA sanctions against student-athletes, and their colleges and universities, and the subject of NCAA sanctions against college coaches. I believe we have moved far beyond our original hope of bringing peace to this NCAAAAU war. I, for one, no longer care when, or whether, they settle their dispute over who has the power, or who gets the economic benefits, from in- ternational sporting competition. I do care, very much, whether the student-athletes suffer while this controversy continues and whether our national interest suffers. The bill which Mr. Dellenback and I have introduced, along with a majority of the members of this subcommittee, seeks one purpose, and one purpose only : Adequate safeguards for the student-athletes, their institutions of higher learning, and their coaches. The NCAA and the AAU can settle their dispute, or not, as they please. But we do not want the student-athletes to be hostages to one side or the pawns of either sidewhile these two organizations make up their minds whether to continue to squabble among themselves, or settle their dispute in a rational manner, as befits organizations of their size and stature, and as befits organizations which profess con- cern for young athletes and excellence in competition. I believe the sentiment of the Congress is such that we can no longer allow these organizations the luxury to carry on their battle in which the student-athletes are the innocent victims. That is why, we have the legislation which is before this subcom- mittee today. Mr. Dellenback, would you like to make any observations before we hear from the first witness? Mr. MILLENBACK. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to speak briefly if I may. It was 2 weeks ago today that Chairman O'Hara called a hearing to consider the problem facing student-athletes as a direct result of the dispute between the NCAA and AAU. Following the hearing as the chairman pointed out, both he andmet with the principal ;fitness representing the NCAA and AAU in Mr. O'Hara office. The results were less than encouraging. Now, we are gathered again and this time to consider legislation which is designed to protect the rights of amateur student-athletes and

-11 98 coaches. If there are any flaws ir. the two pieces of proposed legisla- tion we have before us, we want to know about them and we expect the witnesses to point out the specific flaws. I personally would like to see this conflict resolved in such a way that both the AAt and NCAA will be able to continue making their_great- est possible contribution to organized athletic competition in the United States and for the United States and the world. But if it is necessary to pass a Federal law to protect the rights of individual coaches and athletes and all sports bodies involved, then I am ready, reluctantly I must admit, to support the passage of such Federal legislation. Chairman O'Hara and I and other members of the subcommittee ex- pect to have witnesses appearing representing all sides of this issue. We expect and hope that the testimony will be constructive, recognizing the situation before us, and what the chairman and I feel very strongly must be the goal : Protection of athletes and coaches. We hope to see witnesses involved who will speak constructively as to how togo about accomplishing that goal in a way that has not been accomplished to date. I commend the chairman for pursuing these hearings further andwe look forward very much to all of the witnesses givingus the benefit of their thinking. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you. I see Mr. Kemp and Mr. Peyser are here. Doyou wish to make any statement, Mr. Kemp I Mr. KEMP. I have no formal statement except to associate myself with the goals and intent of H.R. 5623 and commendyou and Mr. Dellenback for these efforts toward legislation. Hopefully legislation will not be neilad, but in the event it is, I stand ready to support it for the good of at'detes and coaches. Mr. O'Hann. Mr. Peyser? Mr. PEYSER. First of all, Mr. Chairman, I want to thank you very much for allowing me to appear with the subcommittee today. While I am a member of the Education and Labor Committee this is not one of the subcommittees I serve on. but this matter has been of great interest to me and one in which I have introduced a. bill, H.R. ti624. which in some ways differs with the bill of the chairman and other members of the committee. It. is my hope that as these hearings progress and we have an op- portunity of looking at both of these bills perhaps wecan incorporate some of the features that I am seeking here. I would like briefly to say that I have had the opportunity in the past week of trying to mediate the difference between the AMT and the NCAA. My efforts brought me in direct contact with both of these bodies for an extensive period of time. I found it. to be an extremely frustrating experience. Both of these bodies speak of their great concern for the athletes and their great concern for our country being able to compete favorably in the inter- national scene and yet I found them completely unbending and un- willing to yield in any way. If I were to put a term on it, frankly, I would say they were acting as sports power brokers and I think this is totally out of keeping with what they have been designed to do.

,I 90 I think the AAU and the NCAA both had better realize, based on your leadership, that you are demonstrating here that they are not bigger than the United States. That is really the challenge which is being made today, to our country. The United States could have won the meet which took place in Richmond this last Friday. There were two gold medal Olympic com- petitors, Williams and Melbourne in the long jump and hurdles. Both were blocked out of this meet. The Russians took first and second place in these two events. This meet was so close that in the opinion of the coaches if either one of these men had been competing, the United States would have won the meet. This is not to say that our whole future rises is nd falls on whether we win a meet, but it seems to me when we have the people to compete, they ought to be able to compete, and our country ought to come out as strongly as possible. It is for this reason I have introduced my bill which goes a few steps further in the international competition than the bill that you have proposed. Once again, I appreciate this opportunity and as the hearing I hope we can get into more of the points of both of these ciolsg.resses, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'IlARA. Thank you, Mr. Peyser. We know of your interest and, of course, the interest that Mr. Kemp has shown in this matter is also well known. Our first witness is Mr. Jim Banner, track coach of the University of Pittsburgh. Mr. Banner was to have been the head coach of the U.S. team competing against the Russians in the track meet at Richmond, which has been referred to. This, of course, would have been a labor of love for Mr. Banner but it was very much an honor as well to be selected as coach of theU J.S. teams from among the other track coaches across the country_ But Mr. Banner had to pack up and leave Richmond onWednesday, 2 days before the meet. The University of Pittsburgh officials were ad- vised by the NCAA it had not sanctioned the meet and the Pittsburgh athletic department told Mr. Banner to return to his home. I contacted Mr. Banner immediately and found a gratifying willing- ness on his part to help and I am pleased to welcome him this morning and, Mr. Banner, if you will take your place at the witness table we are very anxious to hear from you. Air. BANNER. Thank vol'. Mr. Minim. We unaerstand you don't have a prepared statement. That is. of course, permissible under the rules and if you will just tell us the situation as you saw it and what your thoughts are onameliorat- ing this stitimtion and making it possible so that athletes can compete on behalf of the; .. country we would like to hear your ideas. STATEMENT OP JIM BANNER, TRACK 00A08 AT UNIVERSITY OP PITTSBURGH Mr. BANNtit. I certainly was disappointed, as I stated, I was not able to represent my country. I don't see any reason for this. I don't see any reason for the argument.

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One of the most disappointing points in the argument is when I was called and told I had better return to my school, I said, "Why" and my athletic director very reluctantly and disappointing said, "We called the NCAA office and they said there is no sanction." I said. "Why is there no sanction" and as in the past. 8 or 0 years,the coaches and athletes are never given a reason. There is just no sanction. I would like to know why there is no sanction. I have never been told nor have I seen in writing why there is no sanction. It seems to me that when we are involved in international competition with the political impacts being as great as the impact on the athletes, regardless of whether there is or is not a sanction, I think the best team should be on the field in basketball, polo, or track and field, which we are involved in today. My own athlete Bill Ray, was not able to compete. I was certainly disappointed. We were not allowed to leave the campus since there was not a sanction. He is only a junior and one of the finest long jumpers in the country, and we didn't want to risk his eligibility for another year. The only reason we have for Bill not being able to jump is there is not a sanction. Now, it seems to me that this goes to a power struggle between individuals. I don't think the NCAA asa whole is involved in this. I don't think the AAIT as a whole is involved. To me it seems like a conflict between individuals of the powers. Who the individuals are I don't know, but I certainly feel my athletes have been hurt and a number of athletes have been hurt and a number of coaches have ben hurt in the past, as well as myself at this time. I agree with you, Mr. O'Hara. I was not for the Federal Govern- ment becoming involved in intercollegiate athletics, but if it is neces- sary to protect the prestige of the country and athletes and coaches, I say this is the only route we can possibly go. Mr. O'HAnA. nank von very much. Mr. Banner, one possible reason for the NCAA denying sanction to this event, and I am not saying this is the reason but one possible reason for their denying sanction of this event might be that they were concerned about the academic or physical welfare of the student athletes who would be involved and, I assume, Mr. Banner, you are also concerned about their academic and physical welfare. Perhaps you can make some comment on that aspect. Mr. BANNER. Well, as to their academic or physical welfare in gen- eral, is it any worse off in Richmond than in Detroit, Mich., for the NCAA championship? I don't think so. Mr. O'HARA. In other words, no more school missed whether they go to Detroit for the NCAA championship or Richmond for the AA' Soviet Union track meet ? Mr. BANNER. This is true. Mr. OMAHA. And as to the physical conditions, were the physical conditions such that they were as well protected in that regard at Richmond as they were at Detroit? Mr. BANNER. r would say they were equally well protected. The only protection they didn't have in Richmond was a psychological one. I saw boys sitting in the lobby saying: "Coach, what shall I do? Shall I compete? Shall I go home? What do you think will happen to the school ? What do you think will happen to me?" 101 This is frustrating and I didn't have an answer. Mr. O'HAnA. Thank you, Mr. Banner. Dellenback, any questions? Mr. DELLENBACK. Mr. Banner, in this instance you indicate there has been no NCAA sanction of this particular meet. Had there been any application for such sanction by anybody who was promoting this? Mr. BANNER. To my knowledge, there had not been sanction. Mr. DELLENBACK. There had not been sanction or application for sanction Mr. I/40MM I understand, and I don't know factually, but I under- stand there had not been official application for sanction. The word we got was if the AAU applied for sanction, then it would be given. Of course, the opposite word we got, the NCAA said AAU had not applied for sanction and "We are not going to give them sanction." It seems to me when national prestige is involved why should you ask, why not give it? Mr. DELLExitAcic. Let me pin down the particular meet, because I want my understanding to be complete. You say you. don't think there had been any application by AAU, as the sponsor of this meet, for approval of the NCAA for the athletes to participate. Is that correct? Mr. BANNER. As far as my knowledge is concerned and this is strictly hearsay. there had not been an application. Mr. DELLEsench.. We will ask the other witnesses, buton the basis of your knowledge, there has been no such application? Mr. BANNER. There had not. Mr. Diii.i.r.xitAcic. Did you say you also had heard if there had been application for such approval, it would have been given? Mr. BA.rxrdi. Well, this was the word passed around in Richmond and again, it is just hearsay. Mr. I )ELLENntcK. It is a rumor? Mr. BANNER. A rumor. Mr. DELLENnAcii. You are not sure about the accuracy? Mr. BANNER. I am not sure. Mr. DELLENBACK. Did you hear the codnter rumor, also, that if there had been application by AAU, the NCAA would not have given its approval? Mr. BANNER. No; I didn't. Mr. DELI.ENBACK. There was just the one side of it? Mr. BANNER. Right. Mr. DELLENRACK. Which would tend to indicate if it was purelya formality in accepting. The AAU had not applied, but if it had, it would have been given the approval it needed to put the athletes in the meet? Mr. BANNER. These are just rumors. Mr. DELLEximcit. Just rumors, to the best of your knowledge? Mr. BANNER. Just rumors. Mr. IlEysEa. Will the gentleman yield on your question, because perhaps I can speak to this I addressed the question of the applica- tion directly to the NCAA and the AAU. The NCAA agreed finally to mail me the application, which they did and I have. They mailed me the applicaton. I told them I would 102 take it to the AAU fur their signature and AAU indicated theywould accept the application from me as long as there was no otherrestric- tions involved, other than application directly to NCAA. Mr. DELLENBACK. Did you misspeak? It was AAU that needed to apply to NCAA. Mr. PEYSEIL That is right, but NCAA, in effect, must send them an application to make the application available. They sent the appli- cation to me. And I spoke to the NCAA. They said they saw no reason why they would not approve the application. I said, "Now we are talking about just an application to you, is that correct." They said, "Yes, that is correct." So I received the application. This is where both parties are totally at fault in this thing. Question No. 18 in the application of the NCAA, and I have the application here, says, "Has this year's meet been accepted and sanctioned by the U.S. Track and Fiela Federation?" This is another body. It is a body that is presumed to have been established by the NCA.A in competition with the AAU. So what you have happening here, incorporated in their own application, is now a request for the AAU not only to apply to NCAA but they also must first be approached by the iTSTFF and it iat this point that my whole mediation broke down. AAU had said they were perfectly willing to apply to NCAA but they are not going to end up applying to the organization thathas been designed to counter their own operation. Mr. DELLENDACK. I assume we will have witnesses from each ofthe other organizations on the stand and get a chance to talk to them. Mr. Banner, may I ask you just another question in this kind of situation ? Do you think there should be any kind of approval of meetsin which amateur college athletes should be allowed to compete? Should anybody or should any organization have to give its prior approval of a meet, to sanction a meet so an athlete can compete without penalty? Mr. BANNER. I think sanctions are necessary. We should know what the athletes are doing and where they are going. But I should think this is just a formality to protect the athletes. Mr. DELLENDACK. Would you permit one of your trained athletes to participate in a meet that you didn't know something about? Mr. Rolm. Well, I would certainly want to know who is spon- soring and what the background was. Mr. DELLVSBACK. Whatever the questions are, before you as a coach would permit your long jumper or any of your other people to partici- pate in the meet, you, in effect, would have to sanction the meet on whatever questions you would have to have satisfactorily answered I Mr. BAYNE% Yes. Mr. DELLENBACK. And there would be certain things that you would answer, "I am sorry, if you participate in this,certain penalties would follow." Mr. BANNER. I don't think penalties. but a matter of looking into it and advising him it is not a meet that I would advise him to enter. Mr. DELUDACK. If he wanted to do that, would you ho inclined tr, take remedial action ? 103 fir. BA:v.:nu. I again think it would depend on the meet and rela- tionship with the university in our case. Mr. Ihu.mxnAcx. I am getting into the question thatis basic in this: Whether or not there ought to be nom procedure fordetermining which meets are proper for our to compete in and which nteets are improper for our athletes tot :'stein. Mr. BANNER. I certainly think there should be a method of deter- mining that. Mr. Dat.t.txmen. You think there should be and you woulddeter- mine to do that as a track coach. And I assume BillBowerman would do it. and other track coaches would do the same thing; is thiscorrect? Mr. BAxxsa. Correct.. lir. DaLt.Exmca. Then there would be an approval by the univer- sity or college involved. Not only the coach would beinvolved, but the university which the young man or women was attending; isthat correct ? Mr. BANNER. Yes; the university would rive approval on myadvice probably. Mr. 1 bit.t.y.xli.WK. It. is only when wu beyond that that we get into the question of who else thenwhetlwr it is the new organization of track and field, whether it is AAU, whether it is NCAA---needs to approve a meet before an athlete can, witutpenalty, compete in it; is thatcorrect? Mr. BANNER. Yes. Mr. Damr.seAra. You accept the concept thereshould be someone, but it is the question of who it is that ought to do it andhow we ought to go about it and whet the criteria ofparticipation ought to be? Mr. BAxsza. Yes. Mr. DEMENDACK. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'IIAnA, Mr. Kemp? Mr. KI.r. Coach, is this your first experience withjurisdictional disputes? Mr. BANNaa. It is my first direct experience. I naturally,with 12 years as a college coach, have heardabout Cher.: before. We nave been going to attend meets and have to hold up to await sanction to seeif tt is sanctioned, but somehow thesanction has always been approved. This is the first time, to my knowledge, the Functionhas not come through at the time of the tneet. Mr. Kt:Mr. You didn't know prior to acceptingthe opportunity that the sanction did not come through? Mr. BANNER. Well, we knew there was going to bedifficulty. It was a matter of waitingfor wi.rd, but we felt as in the past., at the last minute the sanction would be approved and we could goahead with the meet. Mr. Ktilln This has not happened to you beforein 12 years? Mr. BANNER. No. Mr. Kastr. Is the situation becomingincreasingly worse? How would you describe the conditions -today ast.pposeil to conditions dtiring your earlier mach ing experience? Mr. BANssit. Well, I think when our nationalprestige is involved, the situation has worsenetl itself and I thinkthis is the case this time. Mr. Ktito. Would you care to comment as towho you feel is at fault? 104 If that is putting you on the spot, don't answer. Mr. BANNER. 1 would like to say this. Again, because of a lack of knowledge of the background of why these things happen, the coaches and athletes have never been informed, so I would have to say, prob- ably, that I think in this ease perhaps both organizations are at fault. Mr. KE3tt% Yes. Do.you think it would be possible to have some type of private .governing body with repyeseuttion of all those seek- ing in ristliction in order to help resolthis impasse Mr. Biome. Well I had hoped that this would never happen and I hope that this can be settled, but if it can't, we have this situation. Mr. Masse. What I meant is, would you rather see it settled privately ? I think most abhor the thought there would have to be legislation, but what I guess I am getting at is, do you think there is a possi- bility there could be some type of new priVate governing body allow- ing representation by all of these interested parties? 3Ir. BANNER. I think it is possible. Mr. KEMP. But not promble Mr. BANNER. Well, I wouldn't say not probable. But I would like to see it settled and as private as possible. I do not like legislation. But again, I would like to see the athletes protected in some manner. I don't care what it is. Mr. Knte. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. 011ARA Mr. Peyser. Mr. PEYSER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Coach, just as an expert in this field, in your opinion, do you think that in this past meet in Richmond, that if all of our athletes had been able to compete that the United States would have improved its standing in this meet, as an expert witness' testimony now. Mr. BANNER. I don't think we would have improved our standing, but I think wo would have embarrassed the Russians. Mr. PEYSER. I mean, do you think we would have won? Mr. BANNER. Yes, we would have. Mr. PEYSEE. We would have won in your opinion with thesemen comyeting? Mr. ]3ANNER. Yes, we would have. Mr. PEYSER. One other quick question here. My feeling, is thatwe are noi;going to see any private settlement of this issue and that legis- lation isi going to be necessary, but that it can be done in sucha way that will not take away from the effectiveness of the AAU and the NCAA. If that were the case, do you feel you would haveany great objec- tion to Federal legislation Mr. BANNER. No, I don't. In the bill, as I understand, Mr. Franklin gave me information on it on the phone, I think it can be passed in this manner and it certainly would be restrictive, andwe would be able to have control of the athletes over the disputes between thetwo bodies. Mr. PEYSER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'lLtun. Thank you, Mr. Peyser. Mr. Definer, if we could talk for justa minute about the kind of criteria that ought to be used, in determining whetheror not an athlete at a college or university ought. to be permittedto participate in a track meet, let's just stick to track and field events,it seems to 105 me that the only legitimate concern that auniversity has with respect to its student Rt11100 is Oat those student athletes be Vrowcted 'rpm any undue damage to their academic pursuits at the university,winch after all is the main reason for the university being there. And second, I suppose that the university would also be concerned about the physical well being of the athletes. I really can't think of any other legitimate concern the university has with respect to the student, at least, and 1 certainly think that for instance, if a student athlete proposed to take off on a basketball tour or something of that nature that might keep him away fromclass over 3 weeks running, that that university might well be concerned about that. But they ought to be concerned without regard to whose sponsor- ship the tour was under. In other words, if it is an academie question, the question is, how much of his class work will be missed and what effect will this have on his academic career and what alternative arrangement could be made to help him keep up with his class work while he is gone? Aren't those kinds of pertinent questions the university ought to be asking! Mr. BANNER. Yes, I think these are the questions and also that the athlete's abiding by the rules of amateurism. Mr. 0911Aa.A. Yes; that is a very good addition. I am sorry I ne- glected to mention that. That is right, his amateur standing will not be endangered by his participation. Those, it seems to me, are the concerns, the concerns I mentioned and the one you added. I think we could agree that those concerns ought to have to be satisfied whether the athlete is competing in a NCAA event or a Track and Field Federation event or an AMA event, right! Mr. limixzn. That is true, yes, sir. Mr. O'HAnn. And it seems to me that what the NCAA has done in this case is to say, well, we are not going to let the universities make that determination. We are going to take the position that if we have not given sanction to the meet, why then competition is ipso facto bad. It will not be permitted and if the university permits its students to participate then the university is going to be penalized, action will be taken aganst the university and so forth. It seem§ to me that departs from the kind of standards and criteria that ought to be followed in this type of case, do you agree with that! Mr. BANNER. I do, yes, sir. Mr. O'HARA. I appreciate your testimony here today, Mr. Banner and I want to say on behalf of the committee that we appreciate your position, that we are proud of the fact that you were willing to coach the U.S. team even w en you knew there might be some difficulty, at least in this meet with the Soviet Union. We recognize the kind of pressure that was imposed upon you and, that it was not just von that would be injured but it was also your university that woad be injured if you had persisted in coaching these young men. I am sure the committee deplores the kind of pres- sure that was put on you and your university. We would like to say to you that we think you are doing the right thing. and we are glad we have men like you involved in amateur athle- tics in the United States. 106

Mr. BANNER. Thank you. Mr. O'HAIIA. Thank yon. We are going to take a recess for a couple of minutes. The gentle- man who was scheduled to be our next witness has not yet arrived and I think we ought to give hima few minutes to get here. If he is not here by then, we are going to have to go on withour third witness. We have to apologize to the other witnesses whoare waiting here. We made a commitment to this witness thatwe could get him out of here by 10 :30. He has another engagement and was flying in this morning. I think we ought to give hima few minutes grace and if it is insufficient, we will have to goon with our other testimony. So I apologize to the other witnesses. The subcommittee will stand in recess fora few minutes at the call of the Chair. IA A short recess was taken.] lir. O'HAnA. The Special Subcommitteeon Education of the House Committee on Education and Labor willresume its session. We have under consideration today the bills H.R. 5023 and H.R. 5024 dealing with the dispute between the AMY and the NCAA with respect to sponsorship of international athletics. We are especially glad to have as our next witness today Mr. Howard Cosell, radio and television sports commentator for the American Broadcasting Company. The committee remembers well how Mr. Cosell playedan important part in bringing the American home television viewers the coverage of the Olympic games, lie possesses.as a news commentator, a very com- prehensive knowledge of the role of this Nation's amateur athletic organizations in assembling the U.S. teams for Olympic and inter- national competition. He has displayed in his work something which inmy opinion, is an even more important qualification for giving us his competence this morning and that is that he has shown he is solidlyon the side of our amateur athletes when they find themselves in the midst of disputes. Mr. Cosell, we will be happy to hear fromyou. STATEMENT OP HOWARD COSELL, TELEVISION SPORTS COMMEN TATOR, AMERICAN BROADCASTING CO. Mr. Comm. Thank you Congressman O'Hara. Iam delighted on my own part to have been invited to come down and givemy thoughts with regard to the current strictures surroundingamateur athletes in this country, and I do havesome reasonable familiarity with H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5024. First of all, in your statement just rendered, Iam deeply concerned about what has been happening to theyoung people in ibis country in the world of amateur athletics and that hasto be the primary moti- vation in the thinking of anybody because of the flow ofevents over the recent. years. The NCAAAAU conflict is not of late vintage,as I trust you all know. 1 have lived with it for almostmore years than I can remember. Indeed the conflict has lasted longer than this nation's involvement in Vietnam, which shows how extraordinarily befuddled theamateur athletic leaders of this country can be.

an 11 413 107 As young Al McGuire, the basketball conch of Marquette, pointed out to me in a recent interview, we once asked Gen. Douglas MacArthur to settle this hassle and he failed. Speaking as an attorney, I don't know of a better labor mediator in the United States than Theodore Kheel, Ted Kited, and you may re- member he tried to mediate this situation and that he failed. So the time has come it seems to me once and for all to stop the nonsense. The fundamental purpose of the NCAA, the AMY, or any other administrative amateur athletic body in the country is to service the young people, the athletes themselves, not to deny the young peo- yet the records of both are replete with the fact that they have fle;rustrated rather than serviced those young people. It began, as I saki, a long time ago, but first came into real focus in this country in the matter of a youngster named Jack Langer at Yale University, because this was a situation where young Americans who happened to be of Jewish persuasion wanted to represent them- selves, their universities, their country in what is one of the most traditional and respected international competitions in the world, the Maccabiah games, and you remember that situation. The NCAA has certification over gymnastics, swimming, and so on, but the AAU certified for basketball:So a kid named Jack Langer at Yale, and Dayhill at Cincinnati, and a couple of others, and one at Penn couldn't go. That is when I became disturbed to the degree I am now. Yale University had the guts to say : "Jack, you go," and, as a mat- ter of almost total irony, as I look at Congressman Kemp, who is utterly familiar with the corruption and evils of big-time college re- cruitment, which is implicitly sanctioned by NCAA and aided by virtue of the fact it goes on apace. As I look at you, .Tack, I am reminded of what Al McGuire said quite bluntly to me: "With all that is going okay and with all that we do, can you imagine putting Yale University on probation because Jack Langer went to participate in the Maccabiah games." That being the situation, I solidly endorse Congressman Peyser's bill, but yours to a lesser degree, quite frankly, Congressman, because I don't think it gets to the total thrust that is necessary. I appreciate the motivation, the intention, and you are to be coin- mended, sir, but I favor an amateur athletic sports commission at this state in the athletic society of this Nation substantially as set forth by Congressman Peyser. There are differences between that bill and the one introduced on Monday last I think it was, on the floor of the Senate by Senator Marlow Cook, Republican, Kentucky but those are matters that need resolution. Senator Cook's bill for instance, dealing with national matters and Congressman Peyser's bills dealing only with international matters, and I want to touch on that briefly in a moment financially. But the notion of a five-man Federal Sports Commission at the amateur level with the idea of protecting the young people in this country and their desire to participate in international competition, is, I think, utterly sound. The powers entrusted to that Commission under the proposed bill by Congressman Peyser are altogether I think fitting and proper. Under that bill, and you will hardly need explanation of it from me, 108 the kind of situation we now have, where Chris Dunn of Colgate, the Nation's leading indoor high-jumper, could not compete against the Russians at Richmond, Va., would not be tolerated. The kind of situation we have where Doug Collins of Southern Illinois and Kevin Joyce of South Carolina, and all of the other lads whom I was with after the Russian fiasco in the Olympiad in Munich, they wanted nothing more than to have another shot, they were en- titled to it, that kind of situation would not be tolerated under the Congressman's proposed bill, H.R. 5624. On the other side of the coin, there is the forthcoming problem of the little 14-year-old girl, Washington school girl, who won brilliantly on Friday night past in the international meet against the Russians itl 1{ichmond. She would be going to high school shortly and training for an international event certified by the AAU, not by NCAA, and then advised that she couldn't practice on the school grounds. This, I think, sir, with due respect to you personally, is where Con- gressman Peyser's bill covers the situation that perhaps yours does not touch at all and that is why I enthusiastically endorse it. That kind of situation would not be tolerated under the powers and jurisdiction given to the five-man Commission envisioned. When I came down here last year to testify before Senator Cook on his then bill for a Federal Sports Commission to control profes- sional sports in this country, I listened to the whole parade of self serving people, the commissioners of each and every sport and so on down the line and nobody wanted Government control and nobody wanted Government interference. That is fine if somebody is going to take steps to rectify what is wrong; so people will probably say with regard to your proposed bill, sir, and Congressman Peyser's proposed bill, "We don't need an admin- istrative bureaucracy general in Government especially in sports. Keep Government out." The answer to that is that these people have had decades, literally decades in which to clean up their own house and care about the young people. I only wish that these two bills were addeessing themselves, too, to' the 17.5. Olympic Committee, about which I can write a book and about which I am probably writing a book at this present moment, because something has to be done about that, too. Federal controls are a noxious thought, right, but even more nox- ious Is what has happened to the young athletes of this country and that is why the proposal in this bill, which carefully excludes garner- ing for itself more jurisdiction and control that some might like it to have, and this bill I think should be enthusiastically recommended. Now, if you have any questions. Mr. O'ItAnA. Thank you very much, Mr. Cosell. One of the reasons that the bill that I have introduced does not attempt to resolve the dispute in the way that Mr. Power's bill does is because we have been warned repeatedly along the lines of your comment that our right to participate in amateur athletic competition with the teams of other nations would be jeopardized by any effort to inject governmental decision and governmental sponsorship in any way, however indirect, into tho question of international athletic competition. Now, I would like, if I could, to have your comments on that ques- tion. 109

Mr. Cosma.. I think that is a straw clung to more closely by the great leadership of the U.S. Olympic Committee, what has been used in the past during the era of Avery Brundage which I consider to be the age of "Williams of Orange". :ld subsequently by people like Clifford Buck, past president of the U.S. Olympic Committee and now being joined by Phillip Krumm. the new president, and they will cite a case involving France when it was a ppa rent ly to lose its franchise heeantle of Government interference with and control of the French Olympic policies. They have no retort to the problem of Russia, no answer whatso- ever to the problem of Russia and government control of Olympic policies. So I find that position hypocritical in the first instance, sec- ond, not legally sound, because embodied in the United States Code under, I have forgotten for the moment the title number and section number, section number 5, embodied within the United States Code is the very authorization for instance for the existence of the U.S. Olympic Jommitteo and amending language could be included, ini my opinion, to that initial language of the United States Code, appropriate t rt le and sections, and there would be no complaints whatsoever on the point of the international Olympic Committee. Nor would they have any right to complain, because they have no interference with the international conduct of our sports structure in this country, none whatsoever and there is no way that right can be endowed to them. That is my opinion. It could be legally debatable, but I am convinced of the correctness of my position on the matter. So I won't worry about that and that applies mainly to the U.S. Olympic Committee; and as far as the NCAA and the AAU, the only way they could get in would be with respect to national bodiesif I may, the Federal International Basketball Association is led by a man named Jones, coincidentally, who in September 1972, gave one of the worst per- formances I have ever seen in my life in terms of absence of char- acter, ethics, and logic, as he deprived the United States of the victory it had duly won in basketball. I don't think we can live by these strictures and structures any more in this country for the primary reason that the people penalized are the young people of the country who, as I said at the beginning are to b served. I am sorry, I find that a weak excuse by the amateur athletic leaders of America, the fear of international discountenance of that which we do in order to protect themselves in their own, I now consider clearly established, petty aspiration and petty accomplishments. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Cosell, I certainly sympathize with those senti- ments you expressed and clearly H.R. 5623 is a vie minineus approach to the problem, in other words, it attempts to leave the parties, and I am not explaining for your benefit, you being a member of the bar, but for the record, it attempts to leave the parties where we found them as much as possible, but it does attempt to correct what seems t o me to be the worst abuse of the present conflict. That worst abuse 's the action by these federations of denyingeligi- bility, of imposing penalties on schools and athletes if they have the effrontery to participate in events sponsored by a rival organization. It seems to me that that practice, which has been engaged in, as you

_1 : t. 110 know because of your long acquaintancewith the subject, en in by both sides to this dispute, and in theearly. 1960's it was the AAU that was denying eligibility to athletesparticipating in NCAA events and now it is the other way around. Hut won't you agree if we were to choose to go ade mininrus route this is the very least that we could dowith any possible hope of having it effective? Mr. Comm. I would agree with that,Congressman, but I revert back to the phrase you just used, leaving theparties where they are, and that is exactly where I don't want toleave them. I don't think that, well, I think there is aquick and valuable expedi- ency to your bill, yes sir,in the sense that the basketball kids could play the Russians and the track kids could havecompeted against the Rus- sians, yes, but this problem goes far deeper. You people have to look, as one who lived with sportsfor as long as I have, which is the last' 0 yearsof my life and with my background and knowledge there is anobligation, no matter bow, let me word this very carefully, palatablepolitically it might be to some. There is an obligation upon you gentlemen, once and for all, to see that the young people of this country engagedin sports are served. That is the least to which they are entitled. I could sit here and tell you stories forhours, some of which Con- gressman Kemp probablyknows. I could tell you how Bill Toomy and Tommy Smith came to me a number of years agobefore the 19th Olympiad at Mexico City, how the two of them were to go on atrip to Australia duly sanctioned and certified andthey were to be the two American representatives and then Toomy wastold, "No, no, you can't go. An NCAA official is goingin your stead." This kind of thing has been happening for years. So Idon't think the real answer, I agree to the quick and expedient answerthat you are seeking here and I understand politically your deminimus approach, but I say. "Oh, no, sir, don't leave the parties where youfound them, because where you found them is in the gutter." Mr. O'IIAnA. Mr. Cosell: we thank you very much. Youwill be pleased to know our next witness will be Jack Langer fromYale Uni- versity who is now a graduate student at Harvard and he is here along with Congressman Michel, who interested himself in that problem at the time. So we will also hear from them. Mr. Com.L. May I add one word, sir ? Mr. (MAIM Yes. Mr. Comm. I don't even know Jack Langer personalty, but I fought his battle because it was right. I would like you people, as you view the whole structure of amateur sports in this country, to find the an- swers to questions as to how the NCAA candebar a young man from participation in a legitimate and respected competition on the one hand and yet wind up where at the University of Iowa, for instance, a young man, with a readingcapacity at grade school level, had a basketball scholarship and a job on campus where he didn't have to work. and his parents had quarters at that university or close to it that were being paid for by the university, and fordocumentation read David Wolf's "Foul ! The Connie Hawkins Story" and you have therein the absolute hypocracy In the kind of leadership that is penalizing our young people. 111

Thank you very much, gentlemen. Mr. OntaA. If you could wait for a moment,I would like to see if Mr. Kemp and other members of the committeehave any questions or comments. Mr. Erlenhorn, first, did you have any questions? Mr. liai.Exisoitx. No. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Kemp? Mr. Kuril'. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank you, lIowurd, for beinghere today and also for your very thoughtful presentation. I agreewholeheartedly with your desire to see the young athletes protected. I am one of the cosponsors of Mr. O'Hara's bill because I had hoped that at this 11thhour we could perhaps use legislation as a catalyst to precipitate aresolution of this problem along the lines that the Kited Commissionoutlined for us in the past. Do you think that is possible? Mr. COSELL. I don't know. Mr. KEMP. Do you think the Kheel Commission approachwould be positive in its application to this dispute? Mr. Conti.. Yes. Mr. Darn. Well, I again would suggest that hopefullyThis type of legislation may precipitate that type of thing, rather than turning to a Federal Sports Commissioner or AmateurCommission. Having testified, as did you, before the Senate Commerce Commit- tee with regard to the Federal Sports Commissioner,I am hopeful indeed that we can find an answer outside of the Federal Government. You made it quite clear you thought problems were sonoxious to the student athlete today that whatever it did would bebetter than what is happening today; is that correct? Mr. COSELL. That is correct. Mr. KEMP. Well, I again thank you and appreciate this time you gave us. I am glad to welcome your lovelywife to Washington. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Huber? Mr. HUBER. No questions. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Peyser. Mr. PRISM. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank my dis- tinguished friend from New York for testifying this morning and I am also most appreciative of hisendorsement of my bill. In my opinion, the American public is sick and tired of the AAU and the NCAA and the actions they are perpetrating on American athletics and athletes. I would like to ask your opinion, as an expert in the sports community, do you feel the sports community has had it in this overall picture? Do you think you can express a general picture with the contacts you have around the United States inthe sports field? Mr. Comm As far as the athletes themselves are concerned, they have had it. When you talk about the general sports community, Con- gressman, if you are talking aboutcommissioners and owners and professional sports, they don't occupy their mind with these things. They occupy their mind with their own problems. I think one of the reasons why the NCAA-AAIT dispute has been allowed to languish so long has been the absence of appropriate print journalism and sport broadcast journalism through all of the years. 112 I don't blame Congress for not getting into the matter sooner be- cause the issues have not been vividly pictorized and the damages being done to young people had not been vividly pictorialized. One of the great problems with being in sports, which, as you know, is a microcosmic word and hardly to be equated with Vietnam or the ecology or racism or any of the great problems of this Nation and the world, one of the problems with being in sportl, an almost total absence of sports journalism, o writers would be writing through all of the years about who pinch hit for the Mets, very inconsequential matters like those would occupy their time. I remember once being severely attacked by a major sports colum- nist because I had done a whole television show on the plight of the Jack Langers of the world, which is where our attention should have been focused at the time. So back to the basic thrust of your question : "Does the sports community generally feel the same way V" The athletes, yes, I think the American public now, yes, has finally been alerted to it. And as far as sports broadcastersare concerned, still to this day there are only a handful with a sufficiency of horizon, in'ellectual dimension, to deal with matters like these. Mr. NYSE& Well, I would like to comment on a statementyou made before regarding the integrity of these organizations. Frankly, I don't want to put NCAA or AAU out of business. I think they can still serve a very important and vital function. However, the recent meet in Richmond was a case why re Colgate Universitywas told that if they let Chris Dunn, the Olympic jumper compete, that it would cost Colgate University $125,000. Mr. COSELL Yes. Mr. PEYSER. Now, to me, this becomes nothing more than a legalized form of blackmail. Mr. COSELL No question about it. Mr. PEYSEIL I don't think we can let that type of action take place and the only way I see today of answering this is a certain limited Federal involvement, specifically the establishment of a Commission. We have Commissions on many other things, and this is one that is really for the protection, in my opinion, of the athlete and the public. Mr. COSELL. I think that was the basic point I made at the initiation of my testimony before Congressman O'Hara. However, I understand the position and Congressman Kemp's position with regard to not wantng to invoke Federal interference into some great control over athletics, but my position was in support of your bill be- cause I see no other way at this time after all of these years. And I do a network Sunday afternoon magazine show which I am sure at the very least Congressman Kemp is familiar with, and 2 weeks ago Senator gook was the primary guest with Mr. Krumm on the air expounding the old position you raised, Mr. Chairman, and if it had not been for the fact I did that show, I would have come back with another show about the plight of Chris Dunn, and I indeed considered it, but it would not have been really a good program. But before that series ends. I am going to do another show on this whole subjeet, the Sunday afternoon series does not end until May, but that is why I support your bill. 113 Mr. Pxystat. I appreciate that. I have one other brief comment. You made a statement of the team owners and there you were mov- ing into the professional ranks really, I believe. Whilewe don't ad- dress ourselves to that, I don't want the opportunity topass to say that you are 100-percent correct theyas well and that Congress is consider- ing today this whole question. Currently, we are seeing the New York Giants considering blacking out New York City by going and playing in New I fawn or Princeton and I think this is an absolute disregard of the American public. Mr. CosIf.L. Really, I don't think it is appropriate in front of this body, because you are considering an amateur bill, to get into profes- sional sports, but when you mention Wellington Mara, I have known him for many years and his departure from New York City, I finda heinous thing and another vivid demonstration of total defiance of the public interest, but Mr. Mara has duly cloaked himself in the piety of St. Patrick's and derived leadership from the Vatican in thecon- duct of his professional football franchise for two decades and what he has produced is 10 years out of 12 of gridiron futility. Mr. l's' scat. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'Hann. Thank you, Mr. Cosell. Mr. COSELL. May I just say, Mr. Chairman, it isa thrill for me to find Congressman Cemp in a position where he can be effective, and on the football field lie was the antithesis. [Joke.] Mr. O'HARA. We will have to excuse that. Mr. COSELL Thank you very much. Mr. O'HARA. Our next witness is Mr. Jack Langer, who is referred to in earlier testimony. Mr. Langer, who will be accompanied and introduced by Mr. Bob Michel, a Member of the House from the State of Illinois, can give us firsthand the views of an athlete, who, along with his school, is the victim of one of the skirmishes between the AAU and the NCAA. Mr. Langer is a graduate student of Harvard. After his appearance this morning he will return to Cambridge to resume class after a spring break. Back in 1969 and 1970, Mr. Langer was an undergraduate student at Yale University. He was a member of the varsity basketball team. In the summer of 1969, he played basketball on the U.S. team at the Maccabiah Games at Tel Aviv, an event not sanctioned by the NCAA. The consequences were ineligibility for him and probation for his school. Mr. Langer, we would like to hear your story. First, I want to ask Mr. Michel if he would like to make a few comments, because, Mr. Michel, I think the record ought to show you were among those who took Mr. Langer's cause and pursued it and who certainly was on the side of the angels in this dispute and long before we were, I might say. Mr. MicnEta. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. I appreciate the courtesies the committee has extended me in introducing formally Jack Langer to the committee. May I first say I feel, as an individual Member of Congress prob- ably much more interested in the subject matter you are dealing with here today than the average Member of Congress. But it is a subject on which we all ought to be much better informed. ,t! 114 I am not here today to testify for or against either of the proposi- tions you have before you, because I am not altogether sure in my own mind what course of action wo ought to pursue. As Mr. Cosell testified, something should be done here, something has to give. We talk about opening up this society of ours; here is the opportunity, the forum and the proper place to air these things so we will all be better informed as to what appropriate action to take. Jack Langer here played basketball with our older son, Scott, and that is how we got into the act. Subsequently I have had two other boys follow in the oldest boy's footsteps up at Yale so we have been a very athletically inclined and attuned family. At the time this case came to public view, I was incensed to the extent that I did what I did at the time to try to publicize it, and brought it to the attention, I guess wrongly, of the Judiciary Com- mittee and nothing happened. So I am happy to see the Education and Labor Committee getting into this thing to the extent that you are, and I think the hearing record ought to be just as broadsweeping and comprehensive as possible. It is with a great deal of pleasure I present to you a young man who has been the victim of this game that has been played between these two organizations. I think his testimony will be very worthwhile to your deliberation so I am happy to present to you Jack Langer, who can tell his own story. .1fr. O'HARA. Thank you. Mr. Langer. STATEMENT OF JACK LANGER, BASKETBALL PLATER AS UNDER- GRADUATE STUDENT AT YALE UNIVERSITY, GRADUATE STU- DENT AT HARVARD UNIVERSITY Mr. LANGER. I thought this morning I would give you my views after 4 years of deliberation in thinking some of these things through and I thought I would begin by telling you some of the events that occurred that lea to some of the things and I prepared a statement that I would like to be made a part of the record. Mr. O'HARA. Without objection your complete statement will be printed in the record of the hearing at this point and you may pro- ceed in any manner you wish. Mr. LANGER. Thank you. Before I begin I would just want to say that my particular viewpoints are biased in one way but I am trying to be as objective as possible. I was contacted -by Mr. Sol Leiber, the chairman of the U.S. Maccabieth basketball team, in late June 1969. The Yale athletic office had been approached first to obtain its permission. Since athletics was part of my life, but not an end in itself, and since I tried to do well in all that. I undertook, this situation repre- sented an exciting personal opportunity to extend my athletic career. Having started my basketball experience on a schoolvard I felt that an invitation to the Mareabiali Games was apersonal honor and the capstone of my basketball endeavors. Prior to accepting the invitation, Yale was consulted to clear any difficulties and obtain an official sanction. I was especially fortunate; 115 not only did Yale OK the trip, k also expected future difficulties to arise and would deal with them later. In this instance, Yale did not back my trip as much as it defended an ideal unique to most Ivy League schools; athletics as individual expression, a further extension of personal interests where a person was a student first and an athlete second, not as huge budgets which engendered athletics as an end in itself. Without Yale's support, my decision would have become much more difficult. Certainly, I would have accumulated many more per- , sonal liabilities and suffered their consequences. The trip itself was much more than I had envisioned it.. The word patriotism takes on new meaning and transcends the pledge of allegiance in grammar school when one, representing the 'tilted States. marches into a stadium filled with 50,000 people amid the strains of "The Star-Spangled Banner." One learns about much more than com- petition and athletic prowess in these international settings; one experiences the nuances of different cultures and human relationships in this mini world of athletes. To force someone to forgo this experience for the sake of indifferent athletic bodies which embroil themselves constantly in political posturing is a crime that should not be allowed to continue. The result of my trip concluded in a series of unprecedented rulings by the NCAA and the ECAC. Chronologically, they were as follows: 1. Played in the Namable!' games, July 1969. The NCAA had threatened other athletes with ineligibilitY. 2. September 22, 1969ECAC eligibility committee declared me persona non grataunable to play in intercollegiate competition. 3. December 3, 1969Yale allows me to play in first game against Fordham and continued to allow me to play throughout the 1969-70 season. 4. January 13;1970 --ECAC council places Yale on probation for 17 months but withdraws the action within 8 hours for further study. 5. January 15, 1970NCAA council placed Yale on 2-"ear proba- tion. None of Yale's athletes or teams could participate in any post- season competition for 2 years. No TV moneys from any televised games were to be gotten either. 6. January 26, 1970ECAC directs Yale to appear before ECAC Council on February 23, 1970 to show cause why Yale should not be disciplined. 7. February 24, 1970By member vote, ECAC placed Yale on pro- bation for 16 months; resulted in loss of participation in ECM' sponsored events. The fracas between the NCAA and the AAIT threw me into this maelstrom and left me hitter. I just happened to he the host for this politically malignant tumor which left Yale with an extermely severe penalty. I often have second thoughts about my experiences because of the consequences which other teams at Yale had to live with. This gnilt should never have developed. At. that time I had honed that this affair would he looked into by Conirress. Congressman Michel of Il- linois and Congressmen Malmo did speak up, but nothing hither happened. Although action has been long overdue, it is a welcome development. 116

COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED LEUISLATION H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5624, which have been intro heed in the House of Representatives, have been a long time in coming and, for the rec- ord, I would like to state that I wholeheartedly endorsetins proposed legislation. It is something very vital which can end the puerile dickering between two representative athletic bodies. It should turn sports on the international level into an athletic contest where the athlete knows the rules and has an opportunity to win instead of a political arena where the institutions that purport to represent ath- letics have shamefully neglected the interests of the people they were to originally serve. To the best of my knowledge, the NCAA was established in 1906 to serve the athletes of colleges and universities. This body was given certain powers to see that the interests of the amateur athlete were best served. Yet, over time, this organization has become more cen- tralized. more powerful and has become a major factor in the enter- tainment business. Conversely, the universities and colleges have be- come more decentralized and unable to deal with sports on a national scope. Trading on this centralized bureaucracy, the NCAA has be- come so powerful that it has become a self-serving institution that has forgotten the individual amateur athlete for the more economically expedient commodity : power. This power is being bought with the insignificant athletic careers of a number of college athletes. Legislation is strongly rooted in precedent yet the judicial actions of the NCAA have been extremely capricious. There is no consistent action which has benefited anyone except the NCAA. In 1969, the reason for the international basketball moratorium was based upon the 1960-61 basketball scandals. Two points are worth noting. There was no such action brought against those involved in the 1965 Mac- cabiah games. Further, every other sport was allowed to compete in Israel in 1969. Would I have been more susceptible to payoffs than the athletes of the other sports or was the NCAA trying to embarrass the AAIT by forcing them to sponsor a substandard team and enhance its position in international basketball I There is the question of Federal Government intervention in ama- teur athletics. H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5624 explicitly deal with the tender issue of political athletics. I do not think there are any negative impli- cations in this. These bills are the only way to effectively deal with a continually deteriorating showing of U.S. athletics abroad. The public has begun to realize this. The 1972 Olympics brought the idea of political athletics closer to home: A swimmer was to be stripped of a medal because of a drug used for his health; track people showed up late for their meet. These hills focus on the immediate issue of the NCAA-AAU fend. The $10.000 fine puts teeth into the words. It is my opinion that this legislation removes the most objectionable issue in the NCAA-AAU confrontation. the beleaguered amateur athlete who hopes to compete in an ever-expanding arena of athletic competition. if these two parties must, argue. fine. But at least the athlete can be saved the polemics and be allowed to participate in the once-in-a-lifetime inter- national athletics. The time is right to censure these institutions if they continue to harass the individual. The proposed Amateur Sports Commission

,sk .011 .1. 117 should be valuable i f it can create order from this absurd chaos. The continued scrutiny by this body should nuAntain a much needed equi- librium in the sports world. The encroachment of the Federal Govern- ment is in the politics of international athletics but not in athletics per Further, there are no economic gains to be made by the Ama- teur Sports Commission. EPILOGUE in conclusion, T would only state that the introduction of H.R. 5625 and 1T.R. 5624 come at a time when U.S. participation in inter- . or.. anal athletics is being torn, apart. Reason must be brought to ridiculous situation. Passage of this legislation will go it. long way healing this festering wound that has unnecessarily plagued the American sports scene. Mr. O'II.trtA. Thank ;on very much, Mr. Langer. Your testimony has been very valuable to us. At the time you were invited tc participate the Maccabiah games, you were a student at Yale and discussed this invitation with persons of authority at Yale University. right? Mr. LANGE% Yes; I spoke with Mr. ALaney Kiphuth who is athletic director at Yale and before I spoke to aim and he would continue to talk to me, he had spoken with Mr. Leiver. who had contacted Yale University initially to find out if I would he allowed to go. I think in the spring of 1969 the NCAA declared anybody ineligible if they competed in the games, and I think that is the reason for him contacting Mr. Kiphuth. Mr. O'HARA. Did your participation in these games require you to miss class at the university ? Mr. LANGE% No; 1 think they took place in the summer, July 1969, and at that time I was working as director of a dining hall in a camp in the mountains of Pennsylvania. Mr. OThan. Did your participation in these games force you to miss practice or other events associated with your playing for the basketball team at Yale? Mr. LANGER. No, sir; it didn't. Mr. O'INIA. In other words. there was no interference with either your college academic or athletic career created by these games? Mr. LOME& At that particular time, there would not have been any sort of conflict with anything I was doing. Mr. O'HARA So it is rather doubtful that the NCAA was looking after your academic or even athletic interests by forbidding you the opportunity to participate. Mr. LimEn. I found that fairly questionable myself. Mr. OlIArtn. To say the least, perhaps, Mr. Langer, the NCAA has lr igher standards than Yale University ? Mr. LOUIE% I think I will take a pass on that, Mr. O'HARA. You would consider that n rather dubious proposition, wouldn't you I Mr. LAxor.n. Considering that Yale has been around for several hundred years and the 'CAA only since 1906, I think it would be a dubious proposition. Mr. OITAnA. Tn light of their track record it would ben dubious proposition. ns witness Mr. T)ellenhack on my light, a Yale graduate,

. . 118 and of course that kind of preparr Hon you need if you wantto go to the University of Michigan Law School, I might add,which is what Mr. Dellenback did. You know, Mr. Langer, I think that your story, betterthan any other, exemplifies the reasons for the legislation I have introducedand the necessity of bringing an end to the practice ofusing student athletes and their schools os pawns in the jurisdictional powerwhich does not have anything to do with education or really not much todo with athletics and we appreciate having your story. Mr. Dellenback, would you like to say anything in behalf ofthe Eli, Yale? Mr.DELLENRACN.Yale speaks for itself. I do appreciate your com- ing, Mr. Langer. We felt your testimony could be valuable and I found it so, and I suspect the other members of the subcommittee have. I would like to ask a couple of questions following your testimony. The Maccabiah games. was it 1965 or 1967 prior to your 4-year competition? LANGF.R.1005, held every 4 years. Mr. DzrztxnAcx.Were there American players competing? Air.LANGER.Yes. Mr. DEMENRACK. How many played, to stay with your sport ! Mr.LANGER.I would say between 12 and 15 people were chosen for the basketball team. Mr.DELLExuacli.No sanctions against any of them? Mr.LANGER.None at all. Mr. DzuzxnAcx. None against their schools? MrLANGER.None at all. Mr. DELLENRACN. Were you the only American university or col- lege player in the 1969 games? Air.LANGER.Yes, I think the other people were in a position where they might jeopardize their college career, not only athletic career, but I think academic career because of the NCAA threatening to take away their scholarship. Mr.ThazzxnAcx.So the NCAA had spoken between the 1905 and the 1969 games. Did they warn that this would happen if you were to compete? Mr. "Axon. Yes, I think they made a general statement in the spring of 1969 which stated that no college athlete would be sanctioned or allowed to participate in these games and I think that was sort of an implicit challenge to any university body not to allow them to allow any of these particular students toplay. Mr.DELLENRACX.And they stayed with it in your own particular Case? Mr.LANGER.Yes. Dr.DELLENBACK.Has there been a better determination of what is going to happen in 1978 games? Mr. LAMM. No. there has not. I have been rending that they have had people qualify for tennis, but I have not heard anything about basketball and there will be another group of tryouts this summer. Mr.DoLzsinAcx.If it works on a 4-year basis, the games will be this summer, so we don't know yet what the announcement will be made relative to that I Mr. Limon. That is right.

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Mr. Di 1.0 lied Yale done anything like this before your case, or after your case, where theydeclared what would be the case with Yale at least as far as the NCAA or ECAA was concerned? Mr. LANGER. Yes, I think--the data escapes me but the NCAAhad at one time attempted to impose a 1.0 ruling on the IvyLeague, claim- ing that every athlete must meet this 1.0 ruling and they considered that ruling to lit across every particular university and I guess Yale felt that there wits no reason to have the ivy League and Yale espe- cially comply with that ruling ;because the people who were admitted to 1 ale had to meet an academic standard before they wereadmitted regardless of whether they were an athlete or not. Mr. DELLENRACK. What happened in connection with that? Mr. LANGER. I guess the NCAA. had to back down on that issue be- cause Yak, I don't know about the Ivy League, butI am sure Yale did not comply with that. Mr. DELLErtnicx. Do you know what NCAA had said transpired between the 1965 and 1909 Maccabiah Games to give rise to that change in ruling where they permitted it in 1965 and denied it in 1969? Mr. LANGER. From 1964 through 1907, FIBA granted NCAA, through what is known as the Basketball Federation of the United States, which the NCAA controlled, had allowed them to control inter- national basketball. In MGT, the AAU claimed that they were the true representative of international basketball and should be given this franchise, which in turn they were given. As a result of that, the NCAA was sort of put into a shadow and was annoyed by the fact that they didn't have the ruling in international basketball. Mr. DELLENRACK. To the best of your knowledge, that is the only matter of significance which changed the situation between the 1965 games and the 1960 games? Mr. LANGER. Yes. Mr. DELLENBACK. There was no substantive difference in your posi- tion in 1969 versus any of the players who were permitted to compete in 10651 Mr. LANGER. I would think the players that were permitted to com- pete in 1905 would be in a more difficult position because of the time bpan between 1960 and 1961, when there were somebasketball scandals during the summer which disallowed competing over the summer- 1905 was much closer to that scandal than 1909 was. Mr. DELLENDACK. One last line of questioning. Do you think there should be any kind of sanction or approval given to basketball tourna- ments in which amateur college athletes are allowed to participate on an international basis? Do we need a method for approving which tournaments or competi- tion at the international level our young men should be allowed to participate in, versus those they should not participate in I Mr. LAxoeit. I think the general overall rule by the NCAA and AAU is further removed from the situation than the immediate college or university that someone belongs to, and I think the college or univer- sity has a much better idea of the personal needs and aspirations of the individual than two ruling bodies. Ae a result the university should be allowed to allow their players to compete on an international scale. I think the AAU and the NCAA may put out a listing, but the ultimate derision should rest with the university.

*;' 120 Mr. DELLENOACR. If you would have some method of approval given, you would have it given within the college or university where the athlete is involved, you would make it a double choice, then, with the athlete choosing to participate or not participate and hisor her college then determining whether or not that suits that individual athlete. But you would not have the approval given to anybody, whether it be the AAU, NCAA, whether it be anybody else beyond the university? Mr. LANoEs. The only rationale I could see for having that approval is if there is some sort of bodily harm or illegal situation occurring which the athlete and university would not beaware of, but to the best of my knowledge I have not seen that particular situation arising and I think the university or college can best assess whetheror not the particular situation is best for the athlete, because I think inter- national competition is sort of the capstone of somebody's athletic career. He has been looking forward to that for a great period of time. Mr. DELLENBACK. Surely you must have found thosegames exciting. Mr. LANGER. Yes. Mr. DELLExuAcx. But you don't find the difficulties that youex- plained live with you long, indeed if they still live with you at all. I appreciate your being here. Mr. O'HAtin. Mr. Erlenborn I Mr. Einaimunix. No questions. Mr. O'HARA A. Mr. Huber? Mr. liretac. I am a Yale man myself. What are you doing at Har- vard, missionary work I I enjoyed your testimony. You certainly upgraded that school by going to iTa rvard. Mr. O'HAsA. Thank you, Mr. Huber. I feel badly outnumbered here today. Mr. Peyser, any questions Mr. PxvsEtt. Virst of all, I want to thank Mr. Langer for his testi- mony and also thank him for the stand he took several years back with his school in participating in the games. I must say it does put me in a strange role of supporting Yale or Yale athletics, I enjoyed the opportunity of playing against Yale in many sports when I was at Colgate, so, Jim, you are not completely alone here as being non-Yole. I would like to question you on one thing that you said concerning the international competition. It has appeared to me that there should be a body that would have certain ability to approve of an international matter for the safety and protection of the athlete. Now you mentioned the school and I am not sure whether you meant that if there were a meet someplace abroad that individual schools would ascertain the factors about that meet and then would pass that on to their own athletes. I-Tow did you mean that? Mr. LAxotn. Well, what you mentioned is partially true, on the other hand, I don't think a university has resources to continually scout nut every particular possibility. I think the Amateur Sports Commission might serve that function. My only concern for that area is that in the bill it states that three out of the five people on the committee were to be chosen from either 121 NCAA or A AU or the ruling groups in amateur athletics in the United States. Since I think there are only two dominant ones you would have to pick three from the two. If you have three people who would make a majority on that committee, I don't see a solution because dickering would still continue in that body. Mr. Pnyszit. it me say this, and I am certainly not wed to that as a, principle, but we felt in that bill there should be representatives of organizations such as this, that have been involved for many, many years. By breaking them apart that way, we felt that there would be little opportunity for them joining together in reaching a decision. How- ever, if you are suggesting the composition of that committee, which incidentally would be appointed by the President and approved by the Senate, if you are suggesting the composition ought to be different, we would be open to any suggestion as to what that composition should be. Certainly, I am not saying that is the only way it can be and ifyou have any suggestions on that, we would welcome them right now in testimony and, if not, we will be delighted to receive them later on. Mr. LANGER. In terms of the composition, if you allowed a repre- sentative from either ruling group, it would make sense, but not to allow them to control a majority of that committee because then you would get the same logjam you had in the beginning. Mr. nrress. All right, I would certainly accept that. In other words, you might say that you would recommend thnt two of the members be from let's say each, or one from each of these bodies and three selected as interested and competent individuals to work with them? Mr. Louisa. Yes; and I think the important corollary to that is the particular committee would not have any particular gains to be made by sanction or nonsanction in international competition. Mr. SYSER. That is correct, and that is one of the reasons for estab- lishment of that commission. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. 0/LAA. Thank you and thank you, Mr. Langer. Our next witness is Carl W. Cooper, executive director of the U.S. Track and Field Federation, an organization of organizationspro- moting all aspects of the sport of track and field in the United States. Active members of the USTFFare the National Junior College Ath- letic Association representing over 850 Junior colleges, the National Collegiate Athletic Association (750 member colleges and universities), the National Federation of State high school associations (80,000 high schools), and the National Track and Field Association (400 track and field clubs in the United States). The USTFF claimsto be re- . sponsible for more than 95 percent of track competitions in the United States, more than 95 percent of track coaches,more than 95 percent of track facilities, and more than 95 percent of dollars invested in the United States for track and field activities.

STATEMENT Or CARL W. COOPER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, U.S. TRAM AND FIELD FEDERATION Mr. Coorsn. Gentlemen, I ama volunteer here today. I read in the news media concerning the proposed legislation you gentlemenare

4 122 preparing and this legislation actually reached my hands just last evening. I did not have a copy of the bill until that time, about 0 o'clock last evening, so I have no prepared statement, but I will speak from notes that I have made here. The reason I asked to come hen- today to speak to you is that this proposed legislation will involve a great manyof our constituent members of our organization. I certainly appreciate the opportunity to appear here today. Con- gressman 0 Hera, you have indicated just what we are.I would like to make a few more points. The United States Track and Field Federation is an organization of organizations. In other words, an individual as such does not belong to our organization, that is, unless they belong to aclub and unless they belong to a high chool, unless they belong to a junior college or a col- lege or university who are members of our organization. -We are a single purpose organization. All we are interested in is sponsorship and promotion of the one sport of track and field. We have been in existence now for some 12 years and we were actually established by the U.S. Track Coaches Association of some 1,200 mem- bers who felt a need for an all encompassing organization. In other words, a single purpose organization which would represent all orga- nizations sponsoring track and field in the United States, and then these organizations would all have equal voice in this organization. We have a number of other allied members which happen to be the American Association for Health and Physical Education and Recrea- tion, the national association representing more than 5,000 profes- sional people working in health, physical education, and recreation. We have a number of associate members in addition to these previ- ously mentioned constituents and they are the Athletic Institute, Athletic Trainers Association, I mentioned the U.S. Track Coaches Association, and the National Association of Collegiate Commissioners and the President's Council on Physical Fitness. So we are, as I indicated, an organization of organizations. We have a policymaking group which is called ourGoverning Council. Every State in the union has a State high school organization. They, in turn, belong to the National Federation of State High School Asso- ciations which has its headquarters in Elgin, Ill. This group has votes on my Governing Council. The NationalJuniorJ College Athletic Association also has votes on my governing council, some 550 members. TheTrack and Field Asso- ciation, which represents our club associations, has votes, as does the National Collegiate Athletic Association. So they are a policymaking group, or I mean this is a policymaking ;trout),this Governing Council, and they set. policy and I, as executive director carry out this policy. We, in' addition, have some 50 State USTFF associations within each State with their own directors, officers, and track and field pro- grams, which consist of cross country meets,road races,decathlons, marathons, indoor and outdoor competition, clinics, and so on. My office coordinates programs. My office also conducts area and national crosscounty championship meets, area and national decathlon championship meets, area and national marathon championships, area and national championship roadraces,area and national champion- 123 BEST COPY 4VAIIABLE ship indoor meets and area and national outdoor championship meets and also conducts track and field ditties, coaching schools, and we pub- lish books and magazines on track and flea We certify track and Held officials, that they are qualified to conduct an event. within a track and field meet. We register track and field clubs for the National Track and Field Association. Further, my ollice sanctions meets in which our constituent members compete and I shall touch upon this in a moment. We also conduct a hall of fame and coach of the year award program. So our cent cal ollice is where coaches and athletes may obtain in- formation on all phases of track and field as it exists today in the United States. The basics concept of this federation is a single purpose organiza- tion, formed by its constituent members who conduct their own track and field programs and I might add their own certification programs and contribute and cooperate with the federation for the common good of promoting the one sport of track and field in all of its aspects by granting each of the constituent members a vote and a voice in the policies and action of the federation. Now, I want. to emphasize that I inn speaking for the sport of track and field only and that I am speaking for the ITS. Track and Field Federation only. I cannot speak for our constituent members, all of time colleges and nu iversit ics. all of the high schools and all of the junior colleges and all of the clubs, but I can speak for this organization of organizations. In announcing this hearing on ILE. 51;23 and MIL 5624, the chair- man indicated that the legislation was introduced to bring to an end the struggle between the NCAA, one of our constituents, and the AAU for control of international athletic events. Unfortunately, this is not an accurate characterization of the prob- 1cm, which is not. simply an organizational dispute involving only the AAIT and NCAA. There are also involved ourselves and a great many other people, such as high schools and junior colleges and so on. Legislation designed to deal with a problem formulated in these terms will solve nothing. The fundamental problem which is inherent in all specific disputes which occurred and which operated to the detri- ment of individual athletes, both domestically and in international coin pet aloft is the sepa rat ion of programs from power. Our eonstituent members control their own programs and they set policy for our orzanization. The power I speak of is to control the international competition. The AAU asserts that it controls domestic track and Held in the United States. It states it. (hoes control track and field in the United States because it holds an international franchise given to them many years ago, i't fact 61 years ago, by the "IAAF," International Amateur Athletic Federation, which designated them as a national governing body and the AAIT helped to create that body. That. was before the school college community developed their athletic programs to the extent that they have at. the present tune. The AAIT, by reason of this so-called franchise, asserts it has Janis- diction over athletes whom it did not discover, it did not develop, or train, or it did not prepare for competition. They claim they have con- trol over facilities that it does not own or maintain and over coaches for whom it does not provide n 20-720-44-0 11V-1. -1 124 BEST COPYAVAILABLE _Another contrast bet ween the .\ M' and the United States Track and Field Federation and its members should be noted. 'the federation and its eonstituent members are open, democratic organizations, whose rules and policy represent the wishes and the requirements of their members. The Axil', on the other hand, is an organization governed from the top down in the interest of a riding clique. Theblacklist threats to athletes are typical tools which the A AU has used in the past in order to assert. its monopolistic sway. Its power must be based on such prac- tice because it is divorced from the athletes, the facilities, and the de- velopment program. understand the provision of 11.11. 5623 to be designed to prohibit such practice by the AAIT. In this regard, however, it is seriously deficient. It would appear to do nothing about the A Airs efforts to obstruct. international competition arranged by other bodies such as ourselves. The hill does not nppenrto prevent the AAP from blneklisting athletes other than student athletes. We See no reason for this omission. We SIISpeet that the AM' may hide behind rules of an international body like IAFF, to enforce sanction against the athletes and teams of our constituents who wish to participate in international compe- tition. On the other hand, the bill does appear to prevent college athletic organizations from rejecting competition in which their -iwn student. athletes participate. Let me emphasize that the co lStit11011t of the. federation have no incentive to assert it monopo'N power over 17.S. track and field in any sense of the word. They do, however. have a valid function to perform and indeed an obligation in rejecting and approving competition in which their own athletes participate in order to as ate that such events are properly organized. that they are properly managed, that. they do not exploit student athletes. or teams, that they do not interfere with the athletic and academic careers of the athletes. and do not professionalize the athlete's run rt ici potion, which has been done by Mlle unscrupulous pro- moters. There have been many instances in track and field where im- properly financed meets have occurred and failed, which Were im- properly financed by selfish promoters have failed; and athletes and teams have been exploitpd us a result. Also, there have been ninny meets in which there has been no medi- cal attention given, no doctor in attendanee at meets and certainly there have been thousands of meets at which there has been no athletic !nonliving, and I am talking about outside promoters beyond the con- stituent members' organization and no insurance for accidents, lia- bility, et. ,titcra. The regulations and rules developed by the federation's constituent organization are voluntarily developed and adopted by their members and represents their collective best judgment based on extensive expe- rience as to reasonable requirements. The federation has been designated by these constituents to also sanction these competitiis where outside interests ommote a, meet or mixed categories are held in a meet. In order words, the National Junior College Athletic Association, the NCAA, and the high schools ask us to make sure that a track and field meet that is sponsored by an

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outside organizat ion. such as the ShrillerS Club, .Tayeees, et cetera--- amt I could go MI and on to infinitythat these meets are properly sanctioned by our office, and they each in turn have their own certi- fication prognims in addition to our sanctioning program. The provision of this bill would apparently however, prevent the foreement of such regulations in any VOW in which it could be claimed that the competition involvcs "international athletic compe- tition." Such legislation in my opinion would throw the baby out with the bath water. Moreover, it. despite whatever superficial attraction such legislation 6 might seem to boded out by giving an appearance of act ion dealing with sneviiie disputes, which have recently been widely publicized, is fun- damentally on the surface only and it deals with symptoms and leaves the basic cause, the divorce of the international fnmchise from the tinniest is sports program untouched. If legislation is in fact required, and I am again not convinced that itis, it should be mom evenhanded and should deal with the basic issues. It IS possible that MIL 624, the Peyser bill, represents. suck an approach, but I have not had an opportunity to study tluit bill, and as I indicated, just had it placed in my hands last evening and therefore have not had a dimity to comment on it at this tune. You asked other witnesses several times this morning, for a solu- tin. As far as track and field is concerned, there is a. solution. It is my opinion that the only solution would be that the Federal Govern- ment 111:11ier 11 domestic_ single purpose organizationourselves or somebody like us. for thitionni administration of track and field, and with the eoopeation of all interested parties, including the AM*, and thiA ormization would become this Nation's representative to the intermit loud sport governing bodythe IAAF. This u as a fundamental concept of the federation when it, was formed 1, years hgo. Every facet of track and field was brought, together and asked to form the ruited States Track and Field Fed- eration. The AAP says, no, we are the governing body, and we will not participate in the federation movement. What the federation was after at that time was equal voice by all facets of track and field: a single purpose organization devoted to doing: one thing, the promotion of track and field. Now, this has already been amomplished in the ease of the r.S. ymimsticpt Federation Hod steps in that direction are well underway in the federations of basketball and wrestling. Also single-purpose orgai zat inn, devoted ench to one report. I suspect that the recent disputes arose from the A Ars desire to block this movement of single-purpose organizations. It was indicated earlier, in fact some of you gentlemen asked if a sanction applieation, and when I say "sanction" I mu referring to the federation as we use the term "sanction," and the NCAA, National Collegiate Athletic Asoociation, uses the term "eertifieation" T was asked, "was any application made by the AAIT for the federation's sanction and the CAA certification of the U.S.A.45.S.S.R. indoor meet held on March 16, 1973 I The answer is, "Absolutely not." If the AM/ had made applica- tionand their form was sent to them 1 month prior to the competi tionto our office, we would have sanctioned the meet the same as we

F 126 have sanctioned all of the AAITchampionship meets for the last 4 years, and also the same as wesanctioned the United States versus hussian junior championships last summer,sponsored and conducted by the Amateur Athletic Union. Wedid sanction those meets. But we reeeived no request for sanction, nor, asI understand it did one of our constituents,the NCAA, receive a request forcertification. The precedent was set last yearfor our office to sanction and the NCAA to real fy intermit imud twitand field competition. Now, gentlemen, if there is nocertification by the NCAA or no sanc- tion by our office, any unscrupulous promotercould say : "I think I will get, a meet together.I will go up in Canada and bring down some Canadians and go toMexico or Central America and bring some of those fellowsin mid get, some college athletes or juniorcollege athletes or high school athletes and wewill put them together and we will compete against that group and sothen we have a meet here." It may not have athlete or liabilityinsurance, it. may not. have med- ical help in attendance, the background ofwhere the money goes from the income from that. meet maybe dubious. It is a fundamental prin- ciple that educational institutions,whether the students are in drama or in speech oranything, sanction and certify and thus protectthe performance of their students. Now, the rules that these variousconstituent. members of ours make are 111ilde bythemselves. Each member institutionIkeep hearing names of institutionsbeing mentionedwell, each institution has rep- resentation in our constituency, andcertainly in the NCAA each mem- ber bas representation. They metlast month in Chicago in open forum. The NCAA has open debate on legislationsuch as we are talking about today, sanctioning and certification.So these individual institu- tions, these individual conferences thatthese institutions belong to, have votes. So they all sit down in opendebate and formulate policy and formulate legislat ion for their ownmembers. Now, there is not just a man or an acein Kansas City that makes rules for these schools and conferences.They make rules for themselves and I get very, very perturbed whenI keep hearing the NCAA re- ferred to as some definite or particularoffice that is making up rules to snit themselves. They are structured very similar to ourselvestheUSTFP. The executive director has a governingcouncil that determines policy. The governing council is elected by the membersof the NCAA, some 750 members. So it is not just. some nebulous groupsitting down and making rules, but it is a democratic process by which the rides aredetermined by the coast anent members. Gent lenient I think that is my presentation atthe moment. I would welcome an opportunity to answer any questions youmight have, Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Cooper, have youdecided that your organization would have sanctioned the Richmond meet if youhad been asked to? Mr. Cooetat. Absolutely. We had no reasonwhatever to not sanc- tion the meet and we have neverrefused sanction to an AAU spon- sored meet. Mr. O'llAnn. Then you have noknowledge about whether the proper physical arrangements had been madeand proper medical attention and insurance? 127 BEST COPY AVAILABLE Nrr. enorrit. No,sir. T have none bemuse we have IICVCrreceived an application for t hat IMO. Mr. Then, why are the student athletesthat have partici- pated in the meet being threatened withineligibility? Mr. COOPER. That would be up to NCAA. to answerfor that. I couldn't answer for them. Mr. Let's ask von, do you think thatstudent athletes who participate in a meet whi'li your organizationwould have sanctioned if it had only been asked todo so, ought to lose eligibility for having pa rt iei pated ? Mr. Comm You are asking meif, in my opinion, they shouldlose

Yes. Mr. Cloven. This is all up to theindividual eonstituent members of ours who set their ownrules. If they have those miles,and then those rides are broken, then the institution orathlete should be disciplined. Every private institution then makesapplication to join the NC.11. They are not required to It isoptional. They don' have to belong i f they don't want to belong. If theybelong, they should abide by the Tildes. Mr. O'HARA. I asked you what your privateopinion was. Mr. Coo. I speak only for thefederation, but in the eventthat any of our miles orregulations were not complied with,that we onr- serves mielit refuse to sanction. We would definitely refuse to sanction thefollowing year the appli cation for the MIT meet in the Agent that our rules wereviolated. 011M1A. Mt do you think a student athlete ought to bedenied eligibility to participate hi collegiate athletics because he participated in a meet that you would have sanctioned but did not onlybecause pit weren't risked to? Mr. et onn. If it violates the rules of that constituentorganization, yes. Mr. Onin.i. Well, then you don't. place a veryhigh value,Mr. Cooper.on the welfare of these athletes,if you thinktheviolation of a ride of tin orminization, that that is appropriate punishment forvio- lation of the rules of an organization, rules that do not relate in this particular instance to the student athlete's physical welfare or academie peotrress: bite you snv that is all right with you. go ahead andsuspend him if there is a violation of the rules of the organization. Now I think that is it pretty harsh penalty. I understand in addition the nniversity could have been threatened and is that not the use, Mr. Peyser? kr. PliNER. That Is correct. Mm. 01 NI %. 1)n ymi feel a university ought to be suspended orlose its share of television revenues if one, or if it does notforbid one of its athletes from participating in an athletic event that youlust testified met all of the standards required forsanction bv your organization? Mr. CI, Hawn. I did not receive a request forsaneiirm. therefore. T don't know if the meet. met our standards. Again I repeat thatin the event some of our constituent membersviolated some of the Federation rules, we would take issue with themin regard to our own rules. We would certainly look with very keen eyes to any violation of the Federation's rules.

^11, J 128 Mr. O'HARA. Mr. COper, let inc just correct one misapprehen- sion. The bill, H.R. 56.93, would not in any way prevent you from re- quiring under your regulations that events meet certain standards in order to obtain your sanction, nor would it in any way prevent you from sanctioning some events and not sanctioning others; nor would it prevent you ip any way from notifying your constituent organiza- tums that you would refuse to sanction such and such an event. becau,,e of, whatever it was that was wrong with that event, nor would it pre- vent those constituent organizations from notifying their student ath- letes that sanction had been denied of aparticularevent for particular reasons. to put those at. least on notice that in some way that event was not being operated in an adequate or standard manner. All the bill would do would be to say that you would not be able, no organization such as yours or such as the NCAA or any other organiza- tion, would not be able to then withdraw eligibility from an athlete if he went ahead and participated, that. he ought not to be punished for having done sot and we don't think it your function to punish ath- letes for disregarding your advice, if it is anyone's function, it is the tin vemity, but we don't. think it is yours. I just want to correct that misapprehension. You can go ahead and sanction events to your heart's content or refuse to sanction, but you would be unable to then deny eligibility to a student or to his school or to suspend them. Mr. Dellenback. Mr. DEMEWMCK. Thank you, Mr. Clairman. Mr. Cooper, what penalties cyn you impose, if any, if there is no compliance with your sanctioning procedures Mr. Coorza. We would withhold sanctioning. if we would withhold sanctioning. then our constituent members would not certify and then the athletes would not compete. The following year, we would prob- ably r again. unless our requirements were met, to sanction. 3f r. Let's look at these games just held at Richmond as en example. They were held without your sanction? Mr. COOPER. That is true. Mr. DELLExn.teic. There were some athletes who participated there? Mr. Comm That is true. Mr. DELLExn.trit. What would you do insofar as those athletes are concerned, so far as your Federation is concerned ? Mr. COOPER. We would do nothing because we did not sanction the meet. Mr. DEt.t.r.xnAric. And the fact they competed would not mean inso- far as you are concerned, that they could not compete in future in meets you sanction? Mr. (loom:. That is true. The NCAA makes up their rules. Mr. DEW:WRACK. Now, thinking in terms only of what you do inso- far as your Federation is concerned, so far as you are concerned any athlete who competed in the Richmond games is perfectly free to com- pete in future meets sanctioned by yourorganization? Mr. COOPER. Unless my governing council indicates differently and the high schools and junior colleges and the clubs indicate they will go along with NCAA in this and they seta different policy for me. Mr. DRUMM:K. Now, as a policy which has been enforced in the past, I assume you have something in your rules as to what happens in a case like this, don't you I

I9' 'k 129 BEST COPY AVAILABLE tr. Cormi. Yes, sir. Mr. Dia.i.ExnAck. Do those rules that youhave in existence right now give rise to any difficulty as tothe future participation of any athlete who has participated in any event tlmttook place in Rich- mond? Mr. Coorim. Only to the extent that theNCAA is one of our con- stituents and has votes in our ivoverning counciland the policy is set that they would tell me that IP'cannot sanction or should not sanction such and such it meet, thus we would follow thedictates of my own governing council made up of these constituent members. Mr. DELI.Exracm. So far as future sanctions? Mr. ('INER. Yes. Mr. Dmi.i.xxnAck. That would not be on thebasis of a standard rule von have on the books,but on the basis of a decision that would be made by your council ? 11r. Claim. That is true. Mr. Dia.t.sxmcit. Ilow many members are there on your govern- ing council ? Mr. (*.sem Nineteen. Mr. Dia.t.mximcx. And how are they brokendown? Who chooses them ? Mr. Ciloetai. They are elected or appointedby their own groups. The National Junior College Athletic Associationhuffs this Caine type of situation. Mr. I ha.t.Eximex. Does each association have onemember? Mr. COOPER. No, sir, there are ninny members. Mr. 1 hadt.sxmcic. Can you give IIR flint,offhand, from memory? Mr. Ceoesa. The breakdown of voting strength ? Mr. Dia.i.r.xnAex. Yes, how does thecouncil break down? Mr. Coory.n. All right, the high schoolshave five votes. The junior colleges have two votes. The NCAA has six votes,the Track and Field Assoviation has five votes, and the AmericanAssociation for Health, Physical Education and Recreation, arerepresented now by a woman member on my governing council as one vote. Mr. 1hrd.r.x11.1111C. That is 19, if my mathematicsis correct. Mr. Coons. I may have misstatedsix,five, two, one, we will have at least, that number. Actually wehave another member from the Track and Field Association, we have five members thereinstead of six. I think I indicated six. Nineteen votes. in all sir. Mr. DEUXXBACK. I have put this question toprior witnesses and von have currently answered,but let me be sure for the record you have answered this particular question. You feel there should be some kind ofsanction of track and field events in which amateur athletes areallowed to compete? Mr. Coom. Absolutely. Mr. DELLk XDACK. now about the proposalmade by Mr. Langer, that the athlete and his college and universityshould be able to make that decision? Would you opposethat proposal? Mr. Cooi'in. Absolutely. You would have a canof worms. You would have nthleto from a university going helterskelter to compete any- where they wish and the track coach himselfwould have no control over his own athletes onhis own team. Mr. DELIMIACK. Mr. Langer's approach wasthat the athlete must get approval from his school oruniversity, college or university, but if BEST COPYAVAILABLE 130 he has that, appmval, and he wants to compete. then he will compete But you would take that man)! away from the inividual college or university? Mr. Cooer.a. Absolutely. because they voluntarily joined one of our COHStit Hods. They were not asked to join. They were not forced to join. Mr. pri.t.mxtt.u.K. We are talking about change in the procedure as it now exists, actually, Mr. Cooper, and you would oppose that kind of change? Mr. (loom. Absolutely. Mr. DELI,Exii.teg. And you feel, do you, that if this outside sanction- ing or authorizing. hotly, for whatever reasons are good and suffieient in its mind. should have the power to determine whether OP not nn athlete competes again or, indeed. whether that. college or university is disqualified from every event in which its athletes compete? Mr. Coormt. That is correct because the athlete voluntarily went to that institution on his own volition and that institution voluntarily joined the organization. or its conference. and when you join something you agree to abide by the rides of that organization. Mr. Dm.i.Exis.tex. Well. what we are talking about is what those rules ought. to Ile. not what they are at the moment, and that is one of the responsibilities that comes when one is involved itsa legislator. You are concerned partly. of course, with the question of what the rules are; but you are also deeply concerned about what the rules ought tohe. Your answer to me is not direetly responsive with respect. to what the rule:, ought to be. You are satisfit 41 with the way the rules are. you are jast opposed to the way the AAU has been involved in the pl.( leo hire Mr. Cooemt. I ant opposed to the legislation, sir, that would take away the prerogatives of a constituent member of ours to certify and to sanction meets. Mr. DELLExa.toc. If all of the power of the AAIT relative to track and field events were to be given to the USTFF, would that resolve the issue? Mr. Cooettt. The ITSTFIP does not want the power. we want equal representation by all facets of trite!: and field in the United States and that is why we were formed 12 years ago. Mr. 143,1.Eximetc. You want it situation where the athlete does not control, where the college or university does not control, wheresome outside organization controls, and controls in thesense of sanctioning 1111(1certifyingmeets and having the power to disqualify or otherwise punish if an O&M or a school violates the regulations; is that correct. ? Mr. Comm Yes, sir. Mr. DELLP.NuArtc. But you are not willing that thatpower be given to the AAU: is that correct? Mr. COOPER. I am absolutely opposed to that because they do not have the athletes and coaches and facilities that the colleges and universities do, and that our other constituents have, andwe develop practically all of the athletes through this system in the United States. Yon see. gentlemen, the federation concept, is worldwide. Weare the only country in the world that does not haveor didn't have, prior to 131 12 years ago when we were formed, a federation for a single-purpose organization, the only country in the world! We have an umbrella organization here [the AAU] who claims jwisdiction over 10 different sports. The federation concept is world- wide. All of the eonnties of the world have federations for single plus- poses, and single sports, but we do not. That is what we want. Mr. i)1.1.1.1; Thy T has, within it, umbrel ht. organization, individual committees that deal with individual sports, if 1. understand correcily. Mr. Coortat. That is true. But they do not have autonomy. Mr. DELLENHAM. But i P you look to that committee as having the responsibility, your (ptarrel is not with a committee or a federation having this responsibility and the power and the sanctioning author- ity, but your objection is to this particular organization having that particular authority; is that correct? Mr. Cooent. When it is inefficiently hadled, yes sir, and when it does not represent all of the track and field interests in the United States, as the I ISTFF represents 91 percent of the track and field interests in the United States. 11r. 43.t.ENtsm.K.Ooes the NA IA have membership in your council? Mr. CoorrAt. They were offered membership. Mr. Drii,Exom.K. so you don't represent those 505 schools? Mr. Co019.n. The smaller schools. no. Mr. Dvt.t.En.ux. Does the Armed Forces have membership? Mr. roorr.n. They were offered membership. Mr. Da.Luxii.wx. But they don't belong? Mr. (loorr.n. No, sir. Mr. DEt.t.uNitmac. So therefore you don't have representation of all of those athletes? Mr. Comm No. The Armed Forces have one team of Fort Mac- Arthur each summer, only. Mr. DELt.v.xnAcx. Ices the AAIT, per se, have any membership in your organization ? Mr. floorrat. No, sir. They were offered membership 12 years ago. Mr. Dr.i.t.ENnArtc. So therefore, they rare 110t represented. So the ed. teflon you have just given to us, an organization must have the respon- sibility if it has the involvement of all of these, and I just named three organizations that are not involved in your organization. Mr. ('Horan. They don't have very ninny track and field programs. Mr. Dilit.r..n.wn. Not. the AM1? Mr. Cooriat. Very little. Mr. DELLENBACK. Not in the A rmed Forces? Mr. COOPER. One track and field team that is at Fnrt MacArthur in California. Mr. Or.t.t.txnActc. But there are hundreds in MIA? Mr. Coomn. That. is correct. Mr. Dtt.t.txnActc. Thank you very much. Mr. °MAR. Mr. Huber? Mr. Iftitip.n. Were you present when Mr. Langer testified? Mr. CnorEo. Part of the time. 'Mr. Tivoli:. A re you familiar with his problem? Mr. CnovEn. I don't wish to speak on basketball. I am not knowl- edgeable at all. A el. . I 132 Mr. Mum Just as an intemsted observer and I ant not knowledge- able on basketball at oll. but 1 have to vote on this problem. From what he said I think both lie and my former school took an awful beating on that. subject. and I don't Ilk! to see that kind of power. Doesn't that concern you? Mr. (-Amn. Not. if they violated the rules of the organization they vol illy joined. Mr. I see. No mom quest ions. Mr. O'lImm. Mr. Peyser ? Mr, Myst:it. I appreciate your coming this morning to testify before us, Mr. Cooper. I have a couple of questions thattrouble me in the workings of your organization and the apparent force you give to this holding of the power of penalties over individual athletes and schools. As I understand the makeup of your committe, the voting executive body, ant I correct in saying that you indicated six votes are from NCA A and that five votes are from the USTFF? Mr. COOPER. National Track and Field Association, club organiza- tion. Mr. PRvsva. All right. so, in other words, there are 18 votes of the 19 resting in those two organizations. Now, of all of the organizations represented on your board,does anVolle hold any real power exceptthe NCAA tdr. COOPER. Absolutely, but no one group can control the voting. Mr. PEYSER. No, what I am getting at is this. Suppose the executive committee on a given situation, the NCA A did not agree, andhaving nothing to do with conclusions reached by the committee, theNCAA said to its member colleagues, as I think it has tb.; righttondo under its own regulations, "If you participate, wewill tale steps against your school or your athletes," and they would have that right to dothat.. Now, as I understand it, I don't think there is anybody else on your executive board except the ITSTFF that would have any power to take such an action as that. In other words, it seems to me that the power involved here is totally in the hands of the NCAA and what disturbs me, frankly, when this AAUdispute came up, was receiving the application from the NCAA which they sent to me, where this ques- tion number 18 makes direct reference to tying your organization into the NCAA. The question says, "Has this year's meet been sanctioned by the United States Track and Field Federation? If so, please attach a copy." Well, that looks to me like the tie-in there is so tight that unless somebody was sanctioned by your organization they couldn't possibly get any certification from the NCAA. I think in parts of our country in the various antitrust actions and so forth, this could not happen because you are reallythough I am no lawyertying in what you say are separate organizations who havethe controlling power. Doesn't that look that way to ru Mr. Cooron. Yes; we are tied in with the NCAA becausethey desig- nated its as their sanctioning body and they certify, as havethe Na- tional Junior College Athletic Association done the same thing and the National Federation of State High Schools. If we refused to sanction a meet because it was improperly managed, the high schools 133 would immediately, particularly if there are more than oneState involved, they would immediately withdraw their certification. Mr.PEYSER.Well, let me ask you something. Do you for one moment believe today that the AAU is about to back out of this wholething and say, "Well, I guess maybe USTFF or NUAA are really right and therefore we are going to get out of it." Do you think so? Mr. Cooma. No, sir: they will hang on to the last gasp. Mr.PEYSER. Idon't think so either. Nor do I think the NCAA. would. I think that they have taken what I believe to be some tre- mendously arbitrary actions that no court of law would allow if it were a legal jurisdiction involved. I don't think they are going to back out or change. And it is for this reason, that in my legisla- tion, we are finally establishing a body that is going to have the say here in the international competition. Now, if you agree that these organizations are not really going to give, does this look like a logical answer to the problem I Mr.COOPER.Yes, sir; but only if you go on a little farther and you take all of the sports in the United States and form a single purpose federation out of all the membership in the United States, who are promoting that one sport. Mr. 11KvsKa. Well, I inn saying that may be another step. Mr. Cooent. That is the best step. Mr. PKvsEn. That may be, but that is not what we have before us at this time. Mr. (loom. Yes, sir, I understand. Mr. 14:mm And I am not prepared to speak to that. Mr. Coma. Yes, sir. Mr. PrxsEa. But it seems to me if we are going to be absolutely tied in by organizations who will not give an inch, that the ones who are suffering are the American athletes and the American public and that is the reason I think we have to make this kind of a change. I do have some frank reservations on the establishment of your organization as to how it fits into this total picture because it looks to me as though it is really designed purely to afford competition to the AAU by the NCAA. Mr.COOPER.Absolutely not. Mr.PEYSER.That is just my idea, it appears to be that idea because that is where the control sits. Mr.COOPER.Not at all, the control does not sit in the NCAA. Mr.PEYSER. Ithought we agreed those are the only ones that have power really to impose this kind of restrictions. Mr. Comm. The high schools, could certainly impose it on their athletes and junior colleges can certainly impose it on their athletes. Mr.NYSE%I don't seem to see this kind of situation happening. I guess I have seen it so often in the other areas I lon't know of the' rights right here, but I have certainly seen it with NCAA and I be- lieve it has hurt us a great deal. Mr. Cooper, thank you very much and thank yon, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Cooper, we certainly thank you for testifying. I want to make it clear that I believe you to be sincerely interested in the welfare of amateur track and field competition and I know that your position is based upon what you feel is best for amateur track and field competition and I want the record to show that. lq BEST COPY AVAILABLE 134

Although we may not time on sonicspecifies of ,how you get there, I want to make sure that I recognize that fact. Mr. (mem. Thank you. Mr. 01/IARA. Thank you, Mr. Cooper. Mr. Cuomo Thank you gentlemen forallowing aie to appear here. Mr. 01 lAn.t. Our last w'ilesses today%%ill be representing the AMU- tem Athletic Union, the organizationthat sponsored the track meet in Richmond, Va., last Friday and issponsoring the series of games next, month between a United States team orteams and the Soviet Union's national basketball team. Representing the AAU here today are Mr. 01 lanCassell, executive director of the AM', Mr. David Rivenes, presidentof the AAU, and Riehard W. McArthur, publicity direeto of theAAU. (;entlrtmeti, tdense mine lip and take your place atthe Witness table and we would like to hear from you.

STATEMENT OP OLLAN CASSELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,AMATEUR ATHLETIC UNION, ACCOMPANIED BY DAVID RIVENES,PRESI- DENT, AAU, RICHARD W. MeARTHUR, PUBLIOITvDIRECTOR, AAU

Mr. RIVKNES.Iam David Itivenes and I ampresident, of the AAU. Ihove with me here the gentleman who is going to do most of the talk- ing because he is particularly well qualified to answer riftsquestions, and I say that because he is not only the executive directorof the Amateur Athletic Union and therefore the fellow that doe.; most of the hard work and digging in connection with amateur sports, but also be is a comparntively young nun and a recent. olympicchampion, national champion, one who took internationally in lots of these events. For example, in 1957 be was the national AAU champion nt 220 yards in the 229 yard dash and in 1964 heon the olympic trials in the -1110-meter dash. In 19(14- he was also a member and n gold medal winner at Tokyo ns a member of the 1,000 meter relay team for the United States. lie has taken countless trips around the United States representing the United States ngainst foreign countries in other competitions. lie has visited many foreign eountries ns a member of the U.S. team such as a repesentat i ve to Richmond the other night and in 1905 he was the national AAP champion nt 440 ynrds in our championship. ITC will be answering many of your questions, not only ns our execu- tive director. but as an athlete himself. We in the Amateur Athletic Mimi lia.ve ken very busy the past couple of weeks as you know, working on the Russian track meet nt Riehmond and attending the NA L1 basketball championships nt Kansas City and also taking care of our own business, too. so we have not had much opportunity to study in detail the minas; bills that have been introduced in Congress, as von can well understand. We have bind no chance to get together with our counsel, therefore, we request the privilege of submitting a written statement for the reeord at n later date. Mr.(Arum.Without objection. you will he permitted to do so. [,The written statement referred to follows:]

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STATEMENT 01 milk AAU tw TUE UNITED STATES Since 195S, when the first meet was held in Mioieuw, the AAU of the United States tool the Light Athletic Federatien of the Soviet Union have been coo dueling a iinlaP stud Willie series in track and field. These Russian - American duals have received wide exposure ht both countries and throughout. the world and have always been encouraged and approved by the governments of both Perhaps most illustrative of the aura that surrounds these annual 111P14:4 are the comments or a San Promise° Examiner correspondent, Doh Broehnem, who covered the 190 Itussian-Anterienn Meet. at Stanford University. "It was dnonat ie. It was emotional. It was nerve shattering. It was superb, Itthe never-to-be-forgotten 1962 USA-USSR track and field dual at Palo Alto my well have been the Super of any athletic spectacle ever staged on American soil. It had everythingscheduled and spontaneous . What(happened during the meet) was to literally bring tears to the eyes of thousands of Americans and Russians alike. psyched so high emotionally by the events they no longer could control themselves and cared less. 'Ow hundred fifty thousand Americans and 77 Russians can't be wrong,' we wrote the following tiny. One Russian writer. weeping openly. got as far as, 'I don't think I see like it again.' before breaking down completely. Vladimir wasn't alone. Hard-bitten ILK sportswriters Weed against nu Anatolly and had a good cry right along with him. ... On the (dosing day of the met (a sight occurred) which caused Jordan (the Stan- font track emelt) to comment : 'One of the truly great moments of triumph for the world in the realm of sports.' What was supposed to be a token 'victory' lap around the statiltmes track suddenly lied become a mass demonstration where there was no telling Amerlean front Russian. Demrmey from Communism, 'You're great' from iMpaelho'. More than athletes were on a kickparading in total disarray. arm in arm. hand hi hand, while the Marine Band in attendance for the neension frantically sought to Coital up with an appropriate march MUSIC that would serve as rhythm for both marchers while keeping tempo with the chipping of hands the fans had sitehed to lifter their voices trove oat. 'Reid Bless America' was pluyed in march time; so were parts of the USSR national anthem. Even the American flag, which hind been hanging limply the entire afternoon high atop the stadium wall, seemed to catch the spirit of the occasion and began to dance happily For more than two hours the post-meet celebra- tion continued.. The T111414 writer from Moscow at the USA-USSR meet in '02 will argue with those who put their noses up when it is (tainted track and field put on athletics' Super Show at Stanford Stadium in 112, 'America does some- thing very good here' ". It is this traditionAmerica doing something goodthat the AAU is continu- ing with this series. So we continued the conduct of the meets. In nil, including last year's inaugural indoor dual between our two countries, we had conducted eleven competitions. In that period of time, the U.S. men were 9 and 2. having lost to the Soviets In Kiev, 1905 and Leningrad, 1970. The U.S. women held a record of 2 wins nnt19 defeats. Nut the series did not Just happen. It is the result of lengthy and patient nego- tiations between AAU and Light Athletic Federation officials. It has had its growing pains acid periods of strain (and estrangement). However, it had ma- tured to such a point in 1971 that. during one of our several-timesa-year meet- ings with Soviet sports leaders, we broached the possibility of an indoor dual series and it was accepted. Titus the first of these competitions was held on March i7, 1972, in Richmond, Virginia. In what many considered the highlight of the indoor track and field season, both the men's and women's tennis of the U.S.A. were victorious. Virtually every paper In the country carried news of the event the next morning and many, like the Kansas City Times. printed complete results of Individual events. The indoor dual was again scheduled for Richmond, Virginia, to be held Marcia 10, 1973. The announcement was made officially on June 2$,1972, from Richmond. The story carried in a representative number of papers nationally. Additionally it has been listed in several issues of Trade and Field NMI since that date. Moreover, it has been a long-standing policy, well known to those involved in the sport of track, that national teams of this country are selected on the basis of performance at USA National Track and Field Championships. Therefore it was clear long before March 10th that the 1978 United States of American National Indoor Track and Field Championships would be used as a basis for selecting the BEST COPT AVAILABLE 138 squad to compete in the Second Annual Russian-American Indoor Track and Field Meet. What transpired is known to the gentlemen of this committee and sports fans throughout the country. The NCAA office in Kansas City, through various spokes- men issued an edict that any student athlete attending an institution holding membership in the NCAA who competed in this meet would be ruled ineligible and that his school would be subject to probationary measures. Parenthetically, for a moment let no examine those euphemismsineligibility and probation. Both, of course, are merely economic sanctions which effectively deprive the student athlete of the wherewithal to continue his education and the institution of television and post-season championship revenues which can, and quite often do, amount to over $100,000 annually. In short, "Ineligibility and probation" are not idle threats. Eight athletes chosen to compete on the U.S. squad in Richmond were student athletes at NCAA member institutions. The Kansas City-based NCAA successfully intimidated the following student athletes and their schools and coerced them into withdrawing from participation as representatives of their nation: Barry McClure, Middle Tennessee State University, Murfreesboro, Tennessee, triple jumper; Olympic champion Rodney Milburn, Southern University, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, high hurdler; Olympic champion Randy Williams, University of Southern ('alifornia. Los Angeles, California, long jumper; Reginald McAfee, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, mile run ; Jesse Stuart, Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, Kentucky, shot put; Chris Dunn, Colgate University, Hamilton, New York, high jumper, Additionally, both the head coach, Jim Banner of Pittsburgh University and the assistant conch, Larry Ellis of Princeton were forced to withdraw due to threats, intimidations and duress directed either to them personally or their athletic directors by the Kansas City office of the NCAA. It seems apparent to us that the direct threat to these two men was also economic. It is apparent that these men obviously felt that the Kansas City-based NCAA officials had both the power to, and intention of, carrying out these threats. As a consequence,less than 48 hours before the meet was to take place, coaches Banner and Ellis returned to their institutions and the head coaching position for the USA squad was vacant. As a direct result of the actions of the NCAA, the USA lost the men'scompeti- tion to the track and field athletes of the Soviet Unionfur the first time in his- tory on American soil. Mr. Byers, the Executive Director of theNCAA, whose enmity for the legitimate international sporting organisations apparently knows no boundaries, triumphed again at the expense of hiscountry. Can there be a reasonable explanation for the acts of these men? We think not. First, throughout these competitions over a 15 year period the legitimateforces involved in the international conduct of track and field have always conducted these meetings. There is but one body which has jurisdiction over the sport of truck and field. That body is the International AmateurAthletic Federation ( IAAF). In each country one Member, and only one,is recognised by the IAAF as the international governing body for track and field, (IAAF Rule 4, paragraph1). In the United States the Member is the AM; of the US.Further IAAF rules state that all international meetings must be sanctioned by the IAAF or by aMember ( IAAF Rule 12, paragraph 8). While we are dealing specifically with track and field, the general objectives of the international sports federations are similar. Thus, the IAAF seeks to "es- tablish friendly and loyal cooperation between all Members for the benefit of amateur athletics throughout the world." (IAAF Rule 8, paragraph 1). Further, it will "strive to ensure that no racial, religious, political, or other kind of dis- crimination be allowed in athletics and to take all necessary measures to stop such discrimination." (IAAF Rule 8, paragraph 2). As a result of the hostility of the Kansas City officials of the NCAA to the forces involved in the conduct of these international meetings, it seems apparent that they do not share the aims and aspirations of the international federations. For our part, we wholly support the objectives of international sport as expressed by the International Amateur Athletic Federation. If there had been one recurring reaction to the continued attack by the NCAA on the legitimate sports governing bodies in this country, itis a pervasive sense of futility. But there is a solution. At the instigation of the NCAA, the Senate Commerce Committee. In 1085, appointed the Sports Arbitration Board, chaired by Theodore Kheel. At the no casion of the naming of the members of the Kheel Commission, the President 142 BEST COPY AVAILABLE 137

of the NCAA, Mr. Everett farm's, stated, "Our group had complete confidence that the vlee-proident 1Mr. Humphrey) would select a distinguished, unbiased and competent arbitration board. These selections cunlirm that confidence and completely satisfy us," Twenty-five months later, in 1908, the Kheel Commission released its report and Mr. Kheel announced a settlement that he felt was more than generous to the NCAA. He was quoted as having said at that time that he was fearful "the AAU would object to the extent to which we permitted the NCAA to force its way into the domain the AAU had governed for the better part of a century. And, while we did object and did feel that it eontained a signal victory for the NeA1 and arbitrarily stripped the AAU of many of its traditional and legal prerogatives, we accepted the findings of the Kheel Commission. This policy was put into effect by the AAU and has been in effect on our side without interruption since February of 1116$. And, despite the fact that Senator Warren Magnuson, Chairman of the Senate Commeree Committee, said at the time, "It is the feeling of my committee, In light of all the circumstances involved, that we must consider the decision of the Board (Kheel (.'ommission) to he in full force and effect," the NCAA has refused to abide by these decisions. They have, in short, been openly contemptuous of the Congress and Senate of the United States of America by refusing to accept and implement the provisions of the Senate-appointed Kheel We feel that the report of the Kheel Commission. if enforced, presents a rea- sonable opportunity for a resolution of this conflict, We further feel that this legislation. specifically It 5623, in following the guidelines of the Kheel Re- port. would provide a method of implementation of that report. having as its main aim the protection of the rights of athletes. Our aims and goals with respect to the rights of athletes to compete in legitimate competitions (ie. those held in accordance with the rules of the international sports federations in which we hold membership), free of duress, are congruent with HR 5823. Mr. RIVENES. Thank you. I know how anxious you are to see pence come to amateur sports and the AmateurAthletic Union is more desirous of peace than any of you and will cooperate in every way possible to attain that. Evidence of this desire is the fact that upon hearing the introdue- tion of the O'Hara-Dellenback bill, I called Congressman John Meleher, of Montana, that is my State, and asked him to cosponsor the bill, Ire complied with this request, I understand, I am not sure of this but T understand he complied by introducing a companion bill. and we thank him for his interest.. Mr. O'HARA. That is correct. Mr. RIVENES. We want. you to know, gentleman, that we will, if youlike, submit a written statement later on,if you need It. and we would also like to point out, if ton need any help in work- ing out legislation, any details so that they fit in with the interna- I tional mules and regulations under which we must operate and under which the competing teams in the United States must operate we certainly do want to help. We cooperated, we think, 100 percent with the Kheel committee and we are ready to help in any way possible to meet with you and do anything we can in order to solve these problems. With that introduction, and with the understanding that we may submit a written statement later on, we are open for questions to Mr. Cassell here and you introduced Mr. McArthur and please feel free to direct questions to both or all three of us. Mr. O'Hann. Do you have any statement you would like to makes Mr. Cassell, prior to questioning V Mr. Cantu,. My name is 011an Cassell, residing in Indianapoli_ Is Ind., at 2045 West 56th Street. I am executive director of the AAtI 138 and as we indicated before when we appeared 2 weeks ago, Ithink before the hearings on basketball, if legislation is the flung thatis necessary to solve tit:problem that has existed for so many years in the country, then that absolutely is what must be done and that step must be taken. We have not or I personally have not had time to review allof the legislation. Your bill, Mr. Chairman and Mr. Peys'.r's billas a matter of fact I just received a copy of Mr. Peyser'sbill although I have discussed it some with his assistant, but we have not had a chance to review that and see what the international ramifications might be, but simply to support, what our president had indicated we are more than happy to sit downwith this subcommittee or anyone that von might designate. to WI) work out the, legislation so that this dispute can be settled once and for all and so that the United States can continue to be represented in international competition. We see it as one of the major areas because, as you know, and as has been indicated here, this is a nebulous area, the area of what the international franchise holder in this country can do and what is necessary to continue to have our athletes participate in international competition as well as Olympic games. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Cassell, you and Air. Itivenes are both aware, are you not that section 1302 of H.R. 5263 would an orga- nization such as yours from declaring ineligible forinternational nternational com- petition any student athlete who has participated because of such participation in an event not sanctioned by your organization. Are you willing to live with that restriction'? Mr. CASSELL. We are prepared to live with it, sir, as long as it does not violate any of the, international regulations. This is one of the reasons that I said in the beginning that we must review what inter- national regulations are and what the responsibilities are and what is necessary for us to continue to be represented internationally and as long as it does not violate any of the international regulations we are prepared to live with it. That is my opinion. Mr. OliAnA. Mr. Cassell. Mr. Cooper stated, when he was testifying before us just a few minutes ago, that section 1302 would be inadequate to achieve the desired objective, which is to permit student athletes to participate in international competition and not be declared ineligible therefor, because according to Mr. Cooper, even though 1302 might prevent you from declaring ineligible an athlete who has competed in an event not sanctioned by your organization, that you would then get one of the international groups, of which you are a member, to de- clare him ineligible. Now. I would like to have you respond to that suggestion. Mr. CASSELL In my opinion. what is written there would be ade- quate because the only method we can use to have any athlete not eli- gible for international competition is because they have violated one of the international rules, rules of amateurism, or whatever they might be, and we are obligated to carry out those rules by the fact we hold the international franchise. Mr. OMAHA. Mr. Cassell. T would not want to see this bill become law unless i were sure that it would protect the right of a student to participate in events not sanctioned by your organization and still re- main eligible for international competition and so forth, anti I would 144 130

like to have N.ou prior to the committee's taking further actionon this bill, I would like to have you or your counsel check the international rules and bring to our attention any rule thatyou feel might in any way make that purpose of the bill ineffective because we want to know, we want to be sure that that section would be effective beforewe take further action. Mr. Rive. IA I think this is very important. We wouldgo so far as to, it might be desirable to have us get together with maybeyour aides or someone to work out these final details, because thereare many of them, believe me. I would like to point out toyou gentlemen we in AAU are in the business of making it possible for athletesto compete nationally, and internationally, not to prevent them. Weare not try- ing nor An we ever try to prevent them from competing,but try to work out ways for them to compete, and it isour duty and job as holder of the international franchise insome sports to see to it that the athlete is protected so hecan compete and we try our best to do this very thing. In other words, we want to make it possible for himto compete and not to make it impossible for him to compete andwe feel it is our duty to look out for his interest and this we have been doing formany years. Now, it was mentioned here by one of the witnesses, something about the Maccabiali games and in this particularcase this is not an AAIT event. This is entirely separate from the AAU, butwe do, in the various sports that are included in the Maccabialigtones, we do certify the athletes and that is all. There has never beenany problem at all, nor will there ever be such problem. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Rivenes, the committee counsel will be available to meet with your representatives, but we want to make certain that the bill, section 1302, is intended to protect the right ofan athlete to participate in an international event, that that bill will be effective, and we will look forward to working withyou on that because we have had trouble getting that assurance and Ican tell you I have no inten- tion of moving this bill until I can get thatassurance. Mr. Dellenback, any questions on the AAU 1 Mr. DEW:MUCK. Yes, Mr. el,airmain Mr. Cassell, we welcome all three ofyou back again. We appreciated your efforts a couple of weeks ago when you came and testified and when we had a chance to talk to you afterwards. We appreciateyour continued effort to try to work with ter as to wherewe go front here. Let me put to you the same question, Mr. Cassell, I putto the earli- er witnesses so we have it clearly on the record. Should there beany type of sanctioning of meets or tournaments or athletic events in which amateur college athletes are allowed to compete? Mr. CASSELL. I sure think that. it is necessary fora competition to be approved which indicates the type of competition, that the eventsare taking plaec as they should, and as to exactly how that is done, I think it takes a different approach by different organizations. Mr. Ibuyamincx. What about the suggestion that it is sufficientif the decision be made first by the athlete and second by his oft her col- lege or university and that they, being the ones closest to theyoung men and women and knowing what it is that is their concern? Isn't itsuffi- cient if they have said this Is a meet in whichour athletes shall compete 20-7204-10 45 140 k. CAKSE1.1.. I think that. is sufficient; yes. As youknow, that is the position that the National Association of intercollegiateAthletics has taken and Mr. Mier was here some weeks ago and thatis their position. Mr. DEuxxitAcu. I gather that is their basicpolicy. 11r. CAsszt.L. That is their basic policy and they don't seem tohave problems with that. Ihm.itsmicic. If then we say that the athlete and his or her col- lege or university can make thisdecision, do we need an outside sanc- tioning organization to sanct ion that particular event I Mr. CASSELL. Well, if it is an amateur event, you wouldneed some- one to say, you would need some rulesand regulations that say, this is what. takes an amateur athlete. Mr. DELLENILWK. What would happen if the university orcollege made that determination for itself? Mr. ("Assam.. Well, I am not exactly sure. It very well mightbe in the case of a track meet they would not know what the rules were or what particular type of rules the athletes were competing under, unless they actually received a copy of the rules or regulations. Poe instance. as you know, there is a professional track and field organization that is starting in the United States right now,called International Track Association and since there will be a numberof professional track athletes, it could happen that some of theprofes- sioql track athletes can in fact be competingwhist amateurs in an even', and the people thathappened to be running an event would not necessarily know this particular person was aprofessional. It. could happenwell, there are 50 or 60athletes right now that are professionals and have competedcompeted in a professional tmck meet and have accepted money for their particippation. .am not necessarily saying that is wrong. file position that the AAU has taken onthis is that we must, or we deal with amateurathletics and naturally if a person is professional, we don't, have anything to do with him any more. Supposing one of them should get injured and this tour is going on for 40 weeks and afterhis injury, if it had not healed after 3 or 4 weeks, he has to get into condition and the professional touris of such high quality he would not he able to do anything there, sohe must some way get himself backinto condition and sharpness to rejoin the tour. Then the only place that he could do this would beagainst other athletes such as amateur athletes and this is aproblem that has not developed yet at this time, but it is one that I see coulddevelop. Mr. Itivim. May I interject something here, please? This is a sport that I am going to tell _you about that is entirely differentfrom track and field or anything else, one that I am connected within that I am, or tip until recently, was,chairman of the Olympic Luge Committee and chairman of the AAU Committee at one timeand manager of the 1968 luges and laps, for your information, isthe little sled that you slide down an icy chute on. Incidentally, up at Lake Placid just 2 weeks ago, Ibelieve it was, they held national eltampionships there and theNorth American champion. ship inloges.In this particular sport, in world competition, or any in. ternational competition, each country is allowed eight men,three girls, and then most of the competition or practically allof it is in Europe,

14G 141 and they are always because of lack of tracks in the United States, and there. :ealways several Americans over there living there train- ing and so on, and if they were to enter upon this, just say I want to enter and represent the United States, then we might send a team of eight and three over there and find that there are already individuals from the United States who arc entered on their own, maybe repre- senting a university or school. Pretty soon, it would really be rough because we would not know who was actually representing our countryin international competition. There has to be. in other words, not only in Ives but in any sport, some kind of clearinghouse orsomebody certifying not only the athletes. but the team or whoever is going to represent them. Mr. DEUENBACK. So you feel there should be some kind of an orga- nization that serves as a clearinghouse over and above and beyond the athlete and his or her col lege or university. Mr. litVENES. Yes; I thing so. I have seen it happen in luges, particularly. Mr. DELLENEACK. What about the power of that umbrella orga- nization to punish for a violatiwl of its rules and regulations. What powers are within your scope? What if you refuse to sanction a track meet, say, and an athlete participates in that meet you have not sanctioned? Would you do anything to that athlete when he or she at a later time wanted to participate i a meet von hadsanctioned? Mr. CASSELL. Mr. Dellenback, we, as rtre national organization, we do not. sanction any event. We have the country divided into 58 differ- ent. associations. Each of the associations tolerates as an autonomy of their own. they hr ve their own president. iwn secretary, their own vice-president, and their own chairman of each of these places we hold membership in. Mr. DELLENDACK. Each of those 58 deals with a sport, not an area of the country? Mr. CASSELL. No; they deal with an area of the country. Mr. DEILENRACK. They deal with an area of the country. Mr. CASSE,T.L. With an area, yes, for instance, in some cases they are strictly along State lines.l'or instance the Indiana association of the AA'tT, but in other areas such as Texas. it is divided into four or five different associations because of the wide area and because of the athletic interests of the different place and the different cities where there is sort of a pocket of athletic interest. Mr. DEIIENDACK. In addition to geographical breakdown, do you break down by subject matter and sports? Mr. C'Assmt.n. Yes; we do. For instance at the past convention, each of our sports, or each of our sport supervising committees such as track an) fieldit is a separate operating division by our rules. Mr. DEt.t.Estwit. How many of those do you have? ML'. CASSELL. We have 18 different sports that we are involved in promotion of a sport and the administration of a sport. Mr. DELLEXHACK. So, these 18 sports committees must interact with the AS different geographic breakdown organizations? Mr. CASSELL Tess and in each of the different breakdown areas, there is n representative on that committee in that area. For instance, in track and field in Indiana, there is a representative from Indians on the track and field committee for the AMT. 147 142 In New York, I think there aro three. It is broken into three dif- ferent geographical areas. Mr. DELLiolnAcK. Do any of those area groups have power to sanc- tion or to punish a young person who does not go along with an agreeilient? Mr. CASSELL. They have the authority, yes. to sanction events and to take action against indiOduals who partieipate in any event that is not sanctioned. Now, there is also a system of justice that is applied there. For instance, if one of our assoriations %fished to suspend an athlete from competition, that athlete can appeal by our own rules. If it is turned down at that level. then we have a national registration committee, which deals strictly just with matters of eligibility. Then they can appeal directly from that association to this national committee to have this decision overturned if they have bem wrongly treated at this association level. Then, above this, we created at this past convention it review board that. if a person is still not satisfied 1w this national committee, this can be appealed to the review board of the A AU. Mr. Mt/ENS:WM They can, in that. process, disqualify, at least from from future partieipation, for reasons that are good and sufficient under their own rules. Mr. CASSLL. Yes, sir. Mr. DELLENRACK. Are those rules and regulations which the failure to comply with can lead to disqualification essentially rules that relate to the amateur nature of the athlete, or are they rules that relate to whether or not that athlete has competed in an unsanctioned event? Mr. CASSELL. They relate to amateurism and to what the interna- tional rules are. Mr. DELt,rmsner. So it can relate to whether or not the athlete has participated in an unsanctioned or unapproved event? Mr. CASSELL. Yes; it could. There are only 10 organizations, inter- national organizations that the AAU holds international membership in and the other 18 sports that we engage in and promote, these are sports that we cooperate with other bodies in. For instance, we promote volley ball and the USVBA cooperates with our volley ball committee. As a matter of fact, the USVBA has granted to the AAU a 99-year lease on running of their junior Olympic program, a program for kids from the age of 17 down to 9, but mainly because of the type of organization that AAU has in 58 areas and the sport is promoted in 58 of the areas and it would get broader participa- tion and broader exposure than if the USVBA did it themselves, since they don't have that type of organization. Mr. Dr.tarxxnAcit. tet me ask two final questions. What did the AAU do to help implement the proposals of the arbitration board, if any- thing? Mr. CAssEu. We have been going by that board, which, since it was instituted. as you remember when we were here 2 weeks ago, we had indicated there had been visits with Senator Magnuson and visits with Ted Kheel in an effort to have that enforced by the Senate and we, as a matter of fact, had, as part of our statement. at the last time we testi- fied, the objections or the violations that had been made of the Kheel agreement, some of the more glaring ones. 43 143 Mr. DELLENBACK. Would you say that the Kheel hoard report has had any substantial effect over the past 5 years? Or putting it another way, what effect, if any, has it had over these years onthe conduct of sports? Mr. CASSELL I don't think that it has had any. However, while we have tried to implement it and tried to more or less, if youwantw to use the word, "force" the other parties that were involved, we haven't re- ceived the same type of response. We have, in the spirit of good faith, and in the spirit of cooperation, taken some of the matters that were reviewed in the Kheel report that have gone further than they actually were, mainly because some of the people in track and field felt that after secret meetings or whatever with the people involved that they were going to receive the same type of cooperation. Mr. 13ELLENBACK. Mr. Chairman, I have two other questions I would ask, but perhaps there are other members that want to ask questions. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Peyser? Mr. PEYSER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and in the interest of time, I will ask just one question. First of all, I want to welcome the gentle- men here. I have had the opportunity or having manyconversations with Mr. Cassell and he has been very open and direct with me in our dealings, but I do nevertheless want to ask a question that disturbed me because all of the organizations indicated theirinterest in the ath- letics and in the country being well represented. Now, my question really with the fact in mind, why wouldn't the AAIT make application in this meet with assurances as you have front my own Ace, plus the assurances that I would back you up 100 percent if something started falling apart on the other mid once an application was made, then why wouldn't you make the application which would enable all of our athletes to compete in the meet in Richmond? Mr. CASSELL. I thank you, Mr. Peyser. I would like to thank Mr. Peyser for getting involved in that and for doing what he did, because I fhink what he has done has more than anyone else's actions really exposed what the situation and what the problem is here. However, in reference to your bill, sir, I am not too sure that a commission would be the answer. From my own standpoint, I per- sonally favor something being done definitely to solve the problem once and for all, but not on a one-time basis, because I feelthat I am too young, at the age of 85, to go through this for 20 or 25 years if I stay around with AAIT that long or am involved in amateur sports; every time there is international competition or a national champion- ship I go through the same process with the last minute situation that we have here and that we have gone through before. We explained those, I have been through this with you, and I think that really what is on is that the NCAA and again, as I speak of NCAA I do not wish to refer to individual colleges because as I in- dicated before, individual colleges in their cooperation -with our peo- ple in these 58 different areas has been outstanding but it is when you have to deal with people in Kansas City that you run into these difficulties. These competitions with the Soviet ITnion are something we have been carrying on as I indicated before for 14 years and we had this 14n 144 particular event in Richmond last year and there was no particular reprisal brought against athletes or coaches that took part there then and there were college athletes from NCAA institutions that parti- cipated. As a matter of fact, Ron Basil was the head conch clown there last year and he is now the athletic director at Ade 1phi and one ofhis athletes happened to be one of the athletes who chose to participate in that particular event. We didn't feel that this was necessary, however, in the spirit of cooperation, after we discussed it with you, and if it had been dealings with just the NCAA and I informed you that we would more than cooperate, but there was an additional element that was involved and that was item 18 and we feel that that organization was created mainly to be a buffer to the AAU. As a matter of fact, I received an application from Mr. Cooper and I have it here and the date it was received in my office was February 28, 1973, and item 7 on this application, the last sentence of item 7 and I would like to submit this for the record, if I might, Mr. O'Hara. Mr. O'HARA. Without. objection, it will be entered into the record. Mr. CASSELL. I would like to read but the last sentence which rends: Meets involving national teams of the United States do not require USTFF sanction. That particular sentence is the only one marked out of this applica- tion by a pencil. Mr. PEYSER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Thank ,von very much, Mr. Cassell and Mr. Rivenes and Mr. MeArthirk and I want to have called to the committee's at- tention any international regulations that you feel might in any way inhibit the purposes of section 1302 at your earliest convenience so the committee can proceed with the proposedlegislation. Mr. RIME& Mr. O'Hara, would it be a good idea for us to discuss a little bit the possibility of getting together! Mr. O'HAnA. You can do it right after this meeting. Mr. Dellenback, do you have another question? Mr. DELLENRACK. May I ask Mr. Rivenes, or Mr. Cassell, one fur- ther question about your ideas with respect to the umbrella organiza- tion concept versus a single-purpose organization. Mr. Cooper com- mented and expressed his strong feelings. Can you give us the whys and wherefores of how you feel on it I Mr. CASSELL Yes, sir: we feel the only way to have proper repre- sentation and to have the sufficient number of people that it takes to run an amateur organization and to run it properly and havethe competition spread throughout the country and have the proper type of representation from the areas, that involves more than just one particular sport, because there is just not that interest in one sport from an official standpoint from an athletic standpoint, from various standpoints that you would get from an umbrella organization. A good example world be if you would go to have a look at some of the organizations that have individual membership in the interna- tional federation, they normally operate out of someone's home, out of someone's basement, while we have a national headquarters, we have 30 people on a paid staff and we have 13 different field represent- atives throughout the country. You will also find that under our 150 145 situation, each of the sport,. makes the decisions as to what they want to do. For instance, our national chairman is elected by thepeople that are on that committee. We don't namethat person. We don't have authority to mime that person because that person is elected by those people. The international representatives that von have in notjust track and field, but all of these sports we have,those people are also elected. We don't woe them. They are eleci,ed by members of thatcommittee. The re re: entation of track and field: that it has in anyparticular area of other organization or ofinternational organizations are elected by the people. We don't have tiny authority to name them.The only thing that we do as an umbrella is to offer assistance, offerguidance, offer help to try to have the organizations, since they are amateur organizations and involved in promoting amateur sports, isthe amateur rules are the same for all of these organizations. We do provide all of the supporting work for thesecommittees. In most instances we have a national administrator in our officethat handles a particular sport. For instance, we have membership in an organization which controls all aquatics in the world and wehave an administrator of aquaticsin our office and his job is to take care of all the swimming regulations and swimmingrules and in interna- tional participation in such sports. We have a national administrator of track and field. We have a national administrator of basketball. We have a national administrator of the combative sports like wrestling and judo and karate and boxing. Mr. RnrENES. To add to this, I would like to point out if you wereto look at the directory of our membership on the various committees and so on you would find a very substantialmembership from the colleges in there, NAIA, for example, is represented on all committees and we have many NCAA top-notch coaches, directors of athletics, that are members of our committees. We get along just very, very well. Mr. Casa& I would like to point out that before you finishthe hearings, sir, that while it has been pointed out that some of the iron curtain countries especially are government-controlled, they have adopted the umbrella principle because, while there is a committee that is established in the Soviet Union which I am very familiar with, e they have a minister of sports and limier this minister of sports they have each of these different sections, a section for track and field, a section for basketball, a section for wrestling and so forth, so they have really adopted the policies and principles ofI don't want to sound repetitiousof AAU because this is exactly the way that they are organized. The NCAA is also organized that way. They are an umbrella orga- nization that has control over many sports and it seems to me that is a feasible way to approach it, becausethis way you can help sports that are not as fortunate as some and most of them that we have been criticized for a long number of years because we don't have the type of operation that we should have in some of the international competi- tions and olympic games. 146 Mr. Dni.i.v.sewn. The NCAA, for instance, is involved in a series of individual sports operations, and high schools, I suppose operate the same way? Mr. CASSELL. Yes, as you know, the high school federation is a na- tional organization, but each of the States operates by lawon their own even though they really Apply to the national high school orga- nization. Mr. DmaninAcx. But, even in a sport which is represented by a single sport organization all the way clown, that single representation really does not extend to the individual high school or individual col- lege with that. sport being represented by itself. There is an umbrella organization for high schools, for junior colleges, for the NCAA, and although that sport there may be a representative of the NCAA, the sport itself does not permeate through that umbrella organization; is that correct? Mr. CASSELL. Yes. It again depends on how these organizations are organized. For instance, the NCAA Council, the executive group, there is a council, it is a council, and I don't know whether they havea rep- resentative of track and field on that council or not or football or whatever the sports might be. We, for instance, 10 representatives on the ILK Olympic Committee and by our regulations 2 of those people must be from our track and field people. Mr. DELtArrancit. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, gentlemen. Mr. O'HAnA. Thank you very much, Mr. Cassell and Mr. Bivenes and Mr. McArthur. We enjoyed having you and will look forward to receiving your further response to our questions. Mr. CARSELL Thank you. Mr. OThmt. The committee will now stand in adjournment on the call of the Chair. [Whereupon, at 12 :4t p.m., the subcommittee adjourned, subject to call of the Chair.]

:.is2 PROTECTION OF COLLEGE ATHLETES

MONDAY, MARCH 2% 1973 HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES, SPECIAL Suncomxtrrze ON EDUCATION OF TILE CoUXIMPEE OF' EDUCATION AND LAMA Washington, U.C. The subcommittee met at 9:30 a.m., pursuant to call, in room 2201, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. James G. O'Hara (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present : Representatives 01 Cara, Dellenback, Lehman, and Peyser. Staff members present : Donald M. Baker, chief clerk of the full committee; A. C. IPranklin, counsel; Elnom Teets, clerk; Austin P. Sullivan, legislative specialist; And Robert C. Andringa, minority stair di rector. Mr. O'HARA. The Special Subcommittee on Education of the House Committee on Education awl Labor will come to order. The purpose of our hearing today is to continue our consideration of testimony with respect to the several bills which have been intro- duced, H.R. 5023, cosponsored by Mr. Dellenbaelt and myself, and H.R. 5624, sponsored by Mr. Peyser, and a number of identical bills sponsored by other Members of the U.S. Congress who have demon- strated an interest in this subject. As you know, the committee is very much concerned about the im- pact on student athletes of the current dispute between several or- ganizations who are involved in sponsoring athletic events in which student athletes would be engaged. Our first witness this morning is here from Hutchinson, Kans., Mr. George E. Killian, executive director of the National Junior College Athletic Assiwitition and that organization was founded some 35 years ago and now has as members river 550 junior colleges all over the United States. It promotes junior college athletics on intersectional and national levels and sponsors national tournaments for all major intercollegiate sports. Mr. Killian, if you would please come forward and take your place at the witness table, we would very much like to hear from you. Before you proceed, if we can go off the record. (Discussion off the record.] (YHAttn. Mr. Killian, all right, we would like very much to hear from you. You can proceed in any manner you wish, readyour statement or submit it for the record, and testify off the cuff,.which- ever you wish to do. (147)

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STATEMENT OF GEORGE E. KILLIAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NA. TIONAL JUNIOR COLLEGE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, HUTCHIN- SON, KANS. Mr. KILLIAN.Thank yon,l1r. Chairman. I will read our statement. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, my name is George E. Killian and I am the executive director of the National Junior College Athletic Association( NJCAA). It is my pleasure to introduce to you our attorney and commissioner of eligibility, Dr. Oscar Simikler, who is head of the City Campus of Erie Community College in Buffalo, N.Y. It is an honor to appear before you today, and on behalf of the association I represent, I wish to thank you for giving us the oppor- tunity to express our views on this important piece of legislation. We, who make sports both our vocation and avocation, realize the importance and magnitude of your task. We trust that after everyone has had an opportunity to express himself, that reason and logic will prevail over personal differences, so that sports, which have become such an integral part of the American way of life, will continue to flourish at both the professional and amateur level. With your kind indulgence, I would like to briefly familiarize you with the organizationIrepresent. While relatively new, the NJCAA represents the fastest growing segment of education in this country the junior colleges. For the past 4 or 5 years, junior collegesor. community colleges, as they are sometimes calledhave been opening at the rate of ap- proximately one a week. Predictions are that this rate will continue for at least another ti years. Without going into the philosophyof thejunior college move- ment, suffice it to say that it is filling a void that has long been pres- ent. in our educational system. It is from our ranks that come the technicians and the paraprofessionals that this country so vitally needs. The N.TCAA represents 533 of these institutions throughout the United States, which is divided into 21 regions for legislative purposes. I cannot stress too strongly the fact that it is the 533 member colleges that make the rules Eitel set policies, and not the association per se. This is accomplished by the section of our bylaws that requires all proposed legislation to 'be circulated to our members at least 30 days prior to the annual meeting. This proposed legislation is then voted upon by the regional directors, who are the duly elected represent- tatives of the 21 regions. I might add that the Akers and executive committee of the NJCAA have no voting powers. The rules we have affecting sanctioningofoutside competition he it domesticorinternational, by individual athletes or teams is the direct mandate ofall ourmembers. Such rules can,ofcourse, he chanced by them at will. Why then do we have such sanctioning powers?The reasons are twofold 1. We feel it is grossly unfair to allow an athletefreerein to com- pete in any outside competition he desires while a seasonof thesport in which he is participating is in progress. Permitting him to do so j 149 would disrupt not only his own partieipation, but that of his team us a whole. Picture if you will, the star of the team deciding to play in foreign competition at the same time his team is engaged in a struggle for a regional or notional title. 2. .We have had actual instances %%here athletes and tennis have 'um seipateil in such outside competitionwithout our sanctiononly to find themselves subjected to substandard living conditions. By requiring such participation to be sanctioned we have the op- portunity to investigate the entire backgound before permittingour schools and athletes to become a party to sad, conditions. Gentlemen, I believe yon will find that the record of the NJCAA speaks for itself. We have never prohibited4 our athletes and schools front engaging in any outside competition that we found to be. bona tide and worthwhile. All that we are concerned with is that groups and organixotions do not use our members and their students as the means to promote events that will "line their own pockets. " If there are any of you here that have the slightest suspicion that the N3CAA iu any way discourages the rights of our schools and athletes to compete in international events, let me dispel those thoughts right here and now. On the contrary, our record shows that through our international relations committee, we have made a concerted effort to encourage such competition. For example A. We are now canvassing our member colleges to obtain a junior team to tour and play various teams this saintlier in Australia. B. 'nip Chile national basketball team, which toured the United States this past winter, competed against a number of junior colleges, including opening its tour with a game against Brandywine Junior College, Wilmington, Del. C. At the request of Mr. Haskell Cohen. basketball chairman of the U.S. Committee on Sports for Israel, we are sending a memorandinn to all of our members requesting that they encourage nil of their athletes of t he Jewish faith to compete in the Maccabiah games in Israel this summer. D. During our annual meeting and national basketball tourna- ment in Itutehinson, Kan., 2 weeks ago, we had as our guest Mr. Jorge Ruben Mum, coach of the Guatemala national basketball team. Arrangements were made with him to have a junior college basket. ball coach visit and conduct clinics in Guatemala during the next two sunning% K. At. the request of the State Department. we offered the services of Mr. Charles Steveskev, athletic director and basketball coach at Auburn Community College, Auburn. N.Y.. who conducted basket- boll (*Hides in Afgrhanistan for 3 months during the fall of 1972. We Were informed by the State Department. that the lob done by Mr. Ste- veskey was one of the best it had ever experienced, as evidenced by the ninny letters of commendation that were sent to the State Depart- ment by various governmental agencies and (AIMS of Afghanistan. If time permitted. 1 could cite many other examples where the ?MA A has actively solicited and encouraged involvement in the international scene.

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Why then, gentlemen, do we oppose this legislation? We oppose it because we believe that. Federal intervention should occur only when there has been a showing of abuse or disagreement. We do not believe we have been guilty of this. We sincerely feel that we know what is best for the schools and individuals we represent and serve. We are close to the entire scene and can advise our constituents accordingly. Until suclitime that we fail in our commitments and obligations, we feel this responsibility should continue to rest with us. Mr. Chairman, I again wish to thank you and your committee for having afforded the NJCAA in general and me in particular the right to have appeared before your honorable body, and trust that you will take the thoughts and ideas we have expressed hereinto consideration before acting on the measure before yea. Mr. MIAnA. Mr. Killian, what are the rules of theNJCAA? Mr. KuiritAx. In regard to sanctioning? Mr. O'liAnA. Yes; in regard to sanctioning what rules do you have, if any, with respect to an athlete from one of your schools who partici- pates in on unsanetioned event? Itow do you handlethat? For instance, let's take thelT.S.- Soviettrack meet in Richmond just last week, was that event sanctioned byNJCAA? Mr. Kimitx. No, sir; it was not because we were never asked to sanction it becalm we had no athletes that were invited to attend. Mr. OMAHA. What if one of your athletes participated in that event'? Mr. KILLIAN. Withoutoursanction? Mr. (VIImt.%. Yes. Mr. Ko,t,mx. Then he would have been ineligible because of other rules we have within our bylaws. Mr. OMAHA. In essence, what those rules boil down to is that if a student athlete attending a school of one of your member institutions participates in a track meet or in another amateur competitionwhich you have not sanctioned, he isdeclaredineligible, is that what your rule is? Mr. KILLIAN. Yes; and I am going to turn it over to the commis. sinner of eligibility who handles all sanctioning problems for us. Mr. SlItrittP.R. Yes; all that would have been necessary in that par- tienlar instance would be that the school or at least himself, although we would rather have it come through the school, will write me as commissioner a letter asking he be permitted tocompetein that particular meet, Iwould cheek it out. if necessary annyhe calling. Mr. Killian and chances are we would find no reason why he should not compete. If it was tint going to in any way hurt the school, for example, that the school maybe had an important track meet at the same time and we felt it would be best for the student to participate for his school and team, in that case wemight. not sanction it, lent assuming itt.ould not conflict with school activities we would sanction it We do it almost as a matter of course, pretty much asa rubber- stamp operation except for the fact we check out the event and people promoting it to make sure it won't in any way hurt his amateur standing. 151 I have been commissioner for about 3 years. I could count on one hand the number of times I have not issued sanctions to a student or team to participate in international events. Mr. 091-Imm. Assuming you have not sanctioned the event, you had not been asked to lot's just make this assumption, lot's assume that the day after the United States-Soviet track meet, you pick up the news- papers and for the first time discover that IT athlete from a junior college had participated in the event, what action would you then take? Mr. Ssurximi. We would no doubt refer it to the Standards and Ethics Committee. If it turns out that the school and athlete had made an honest mistake, because even though everybody has a handbook sometimes we find that they just don't read the miles and didn't realize they had to go through our sanctioning process and chances are all we would do is send the student and the school a letter pointing out to him that he did technically violate the rules and we find it was not done willfully and that it was an honest mistake and then no sanction would be put against the school. On the other hand, if it turned out the student had willfully neg- lected to follow the procedures, knowing that these procedureswere to be followed, we might very well put that student onsome type of probation. Mr. O'IlAnn. Well, suppose it was all right with the school, let's sup- pose you checked out further and you find, first, that they may have been aware of the rule, they just didn't choose to follow it, and second, that the school has no complaint with the athlete's participation? Mr. SIMMER. Then no doubt there would be sanctions against the school, possibly a reprimand or probation. Because after all, belonging to our organization is a voluntary matter. They can or do not have to belong if they don't want to. There are a number that are not members of the association. If they are a member and understand the rules and yet say : "Well, we are not going to follow that rule and not going to ask for it," if they are not going to do something as simple as writing a letter asking us to sanction it, I think we would take action against them because it would be certainly willful on their part. Mr. Mum. I can't understand in what way the association is harmed. If anyone is harmed and I read your statement on pages 2 and 3 and you say you have two responses for sanctioning activities and one of them is, you think it is unfair to allow the athlete free rein to compete in any outside competition during the season. Permitting him to do Co would disrupt not only his (wit participa- tion but that of the team as well. Sof in other words, the team in effect, is hurt by It.. Second, where there are perhaps substandard living conditions prevailing. It seems to me with respect to the first instance that it is up to the individual school, the athlete's coach say and his academic advisor also, to decide whether it is all right for him to go and play or not. Mr. KILLIAN. Mr. Chairman, I think that track and field in the Rus- sian meet, well, I would like to go beyond track and field. Let's take, for example, basketball. Let's say a team is going to come here and the student decides he wants to play against the Russians and it is the same week we have a regional tournament and the boy does not need per- mission from anybody, he just wants to go and play. 157 MAKE 152 BESTeon Now you have a disruptive action nature against the whole institution. Mr. O'HARA. That is the institution's problem. though, isn't it? My point is this, if that. basketball team operates like any other basketball team I ever heard of they have certain rules with respect to participation. In other words, if you misspraetic of the team. you are subject to certain diwiplinary action by time coach and athletic director. If you miss one of the team's games without good cause, you are certainly subject to being dismissed from the team. In fact, you may be dismissed from the team for even missing a practice. Now nothing in this legislation before us proposes to make any change whatsoever in that. We are not saying that if you are off play- ing In international competition you are not subject to the same penult IPS as anyone else on the team for missing a gamma' or for missing a practice. What. we are saying is. that the Same rules ought to apply to you as are applied to everybody else, you should not be penalized because you are in an international competition. 1 don't see how that in any way interferes with the right of the school to exercise discipline with respect to the team's representing it or that team's menibees, I don't see how it Y.ould bother it do you Can you tell me how ? Mr. KILIAAN. We look at it entirely different than you do because, Icould come into any institution and entice a youngster to go and leave my campus. Sure I can throw him off of the team and di lapis him front the institution. but what happens to the other nine boys that are on that particular team fighting for a regional or national title ? We don't. owe them anything then? Do we just say it is tough luck bemuse "Charles Brown" is an athlete of national and international stature. that he is going to leave our campus and go? A14, Yon saying we don't owe these boys that remain on the campus anything? 511., o'lfmtA. I am saying, in other.,ids, if what you worry about Is if the athlete misses a game or a practice. it seems to Me the team's rides would usually take care of that situation. I don't see where the NiCAA has to tell a team that they have been hurt by the failure of their star player to play and inasmuch as you know they are not going to do anything about Pt. yore are going to take action to rule him ineligible. I don't me your role in the thing, frankly. I don't see where you add anything to the situation. Mr. Suttatima. How about the overzealous comb that takes the boy, whether he is at track star or whatever he is. and exploits him by taking him on tonal Most college presidents. and I happen to be one, are tint much aware, of what goes on in athletic offices and this particular boy is taken, and chances are the coach might he receiving some cotn. pensation or just wanting to expose this boy, because we have instanees where coaches are now acting as agents for some of these athletes and getting fat fees as their agents. This can happen. It has heppened. It is only by having tut organiza- tion such as nuns which has not been guilty of any abuse of discretion, that can pin Dint those couple of isolated cases. If there have been situations where we denied sanction, it is only became, after very thorough investigation, we have felt. it would be advent(' to the intfrwests of the sehool and for the athlete himself to permit it. 158 153

There leis mit been one instance I know of, and I don't think anyone can point out a single instance, where if it is a bonailde event that we 0 give automaticsanction.Them are going to be people, especially le coaching ranks, that will take advantage of the younpter, exploit the 'youngster, and there will be no one that willsay:"No you ?ant do ads or this is what will happen to you or we are gob% to contact his school president, and say her is what is happening on your campus. and put a stop to it." That is what is going to happen if you give him a free rein. Mr. 011,m. That does not, of course, involve sanctioned or un- sanctioned events, does it? In other words, if you have rules with respect to whether or not a coach or coaches can act as agents and if you have rules with respect to whether or not exploitation of athletes occurs in a way that is harmful to that athlete's academic career, I don't see where that gets into this situation. Mr. SMUKLER. Sure, because of the fact the way he is exploiting him is putting him into various types of events, some of which may very well be international in nature. By our saying to the school : "this is what. is going to happen to you if you do this," that is where we get the control. Chances are the coach is going to think twice if lie knows that he is going to go ahead and enter this athlete in some type of competi- tion that we have refused to sanction, knowing full well that his school could go on probation, which of course would then come to the attention of the President or board of trustees. Ile is going to definitely think twice before he puts the lad into competition, whereas if he has carte blanche authority to do it with- out our sanction, he is just going to go ahead and it will not bother him one iota. Mr. 01-1,fint. I really don't see exactly where that gets into our situation. I can recognize the problem you have in that situation, but that is not really the language of the bill, or the language of the bill is really not directed at that problem in any way. It would not change your situation in that regard. The language of the bill simply says that you shall not declare a student athlete ineligible for participation or his school ineligible because he has participated in a competition representing his country against athletes of oilier countries. Now that, you know, is just as simple as that. If you want to throw athlete Smith out on his ear for missing two classes or the school wants to throw him out, that is perfectly all right. If they were to throw him out on his ear for missing 2 weeks of classes while off playing one of your sanctioned events, you know, if they want. to discipline him for having missed metier of his team or having missed games in which his team was involved, that is all right. Iint. all we say is, for having participated as a representative of his country, then, you know, that should not be a basis for declaring him ineligible. Mr. Dellenback, any questions/ Mr. DEntmtnAcit. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Killian, when you talked on your first point, which, ison page 2 of your testimony, Amt. permitting an athlete to compete during the season, I can understand what you are saying and how this could cause some real difficulties.

1 154 What about. in the nonseason Your point alludes only to the season of the sport. What if the basketball season is over and, just like tonight, we wind up the last of the national tournaments. Whatif a player wants to participate in games in Israel say? Mr. Kim.% x. That is fine. Mr. PF.I.LENBACK. But if he didn't apply from any school, because your point deals only with the season,what if an athlete from one of your schools, without there having been any question about the Maceabiah games and assuming it is okayed by you, when the season is over and his Lhool would not be injured since it is during the summer, he himself runs into no conflict with any academicproblems what would you do if he takes off to participate in games like that? Mr. KILLIAN. We have no problem. Mr. DELLErnmen. Excuse me a minute. Let me ask you about that. You say no problem. Let's assume the season is over and them is no request for approval of the Maccabiah games and the athlete says "I want to and he is accepted and gete. the chance to go and participate. Is there any difficulty for that athlete or his school when the next basketball season rolls in V Mr. RUMMER. Yes. Section 9(b) refers to something like that hap- pening when the seasonal sport is not in progress which you directed your question to. We say that such a member college mustreceive sanction from us first. They have to contact us and receive sanction if it is an event, outside of the season. Now. again, as we pointed out and Mr. Killian points out in his statement, there just have been no cases of abuse of that discretion, sir. Mr. DELLENBACK. All I am getting at, and I am not arguing whether or not you should have that rule but just that the firstpoint you have in your testimony then is incomplete. That is not the only reason that you are alluding to. You said "Why do you havesanctions?", and you show two reasons for sanctions. You make the first point, as to your first reason, it would apply to only half of the situation to which you just. alluded. Therefore it can't he your reason.Now you are going into the second reason as the basis for your sanction. Mr. Ktritim. Ow' rule 9 (b) only applies to toms as a whole, not any individual. An individual can go on his own. Mr. DEMENBACN. Then let me go back. If the individual athlete elected to participate and there was no request for approval. Mr. SIttYKLIOL No requirement for it. Mr. DELTA:SHACK. There is no need under those circumstances and no retribution then is handed out to that individual athlete under any rules? Mr. SMVIII.F.R. Unless he got somehow involved in hurting his ama- teur status. Mr. Dr.i.t.v.rmites. What does that mean? Mr. SMIRTY.R. For example, if he was paid for competing, then of course he would lose his amateur status. Mr. DOLLII:NHAON. That would be another charge that he is no longer amateur? Mr. SMUKTAIR. Yes. Mr. Dot,mamix. In this particular situation we alluded to, If an individual athlete elected to participate on his ownin this case?

I Go 155 BEST COPY AVAILABLE 1Ir. Smuxuat. No requirements. If you notice in the pamphlet we gave you, on page '26, section 9(a), it says: "while a season of any sport is in progress, us determined by the published NAM. ale of the junior college. In other words we preface it 'subject it to sanction while the season is lu progress." Mr. 1 ha.t.uxnAtla. While a season is in progress, which is 9(a), we Made clear, under your rules, an individual can participate in inter- national events without approval. Mr. Smunt.uu. Yes: any student that wants to go to the Maccabiah games this summer, the season is not in progress, he does not have to ask us or receive sanction, he just goes. Mr. Dzt.t.uxuAt.a. What about the team situation? Mr. SMIKLER. 9(b), sit', on the saute page says: No member college may participate or be a party to any athletic event such as all-star gnaws, et cetera. They would have to receive sanetion whether it is in season or out of season because there we feel they are really representing the full member body of our organization and we feel that there we should have some control. because they arc really representing the NJCAA if they are a member college of our organization. Mr. I )1.3.1.1.1ISACK. What if they say nothing about being members of NJCA A 4 Just Podunk Community Colkge decides it wants to par- tieipate in something in the next county, or State, or internationally, and decides they would like to do it. Mr. KILLIAN. 'flee reason you have this sanctioning, it is so very it is becausewe .e invitationsnvitations from countries and groups to send a team to play antiPr you have ever been party to some of the international events, it is really quite a mess. First of all, they will invite teams and they say "You come to Europe," and they get over there and the.housing is substandard and so forth. Mr. DELLENIIACK. I am not getting into that point. Now, you are looking to the second reason and, if so, let's pursue it. What t would like to know is what are vour criteria for making a determination as to whether the meet is OK or not. You use two tests: First, bona fide and, secondly, worthwhile. Are those the words of the rules? Mr. KILLIAN. t guess maybe we could have used the word "discre- tion." What we attempt to do is check with that particular governing body, whoever it may be, to find out if they are bona Me ofilcers, not just' figures of somebody's imagination, because, you know, basketball coaches go overseas and have a tendency to become friendly with other coaches in foreign lands and the next thing you know we have a tour going, over. You have to check with the governing body first of all to see if it is a bona fide offer. "Can your institution make this trip?" . Mr. Dzuhmuncx. By bona fide you mean financially sound? Mr. KILLIAN. Right. Mr. DELLErraArx. Is there something else besides that? Mr. KILLIAN. There could he more. For example, in basketball you have to have approval of the governing body, which happens to be the AMT. If the team goes ar' without travel permit, it would not be allowed to play.

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Mr. DELLENBACK. So we are back now to the AMT, not because of what the trip is all about, not because of the financial arrangements or aything else, but because some other body has not given its approval? Mr. KILLIAN. That is only one part of it. Mr. DEIZEKBACK. What else is there besides substandard conditions or economic difficulties? What if the "Maharajah of Hoopensnatch" puts a million dollars in trust so there is no problem of any kind; he will have a hotel set aside and there are no questions like that. You knew that was the case but no one asked AAU for approval. Would you crack the whip in that situation? Mr. KILLIAN. No. What we do, for example, if it was a junior college that was going to play overseas we would tell our people: As far as we are concerned. NJCAA member. you have met your criteria and will get your money and are going to have decent housing and everything else, the next step you need to go through is AAU. That is beyond our control. Mr. 1)Eumaincic. If they don't go to them, you would not give approval V Mr. ICuziart. No; we would approve the trip up to that point be- cause we do not have the right to approve of someone leaving the country because we are not the governing body. Mr. DELLENDACK. Let's assume, Mr. Killian, that a given school which was a member of NJCAA, did ask you for approval, and they said: This is what the invitation is: We know that we are going to be all right.We have the moneyin trust.We know that we have the confirmed hotel and airline reservations and soforth. At that stage of the game you checked it out and found all of those things were OK. If then they went off and made the trip, would you exercise some punishment upon them the next time? Mr. Ku. iArt. No. Mr. DELLENBACK. If they did not go to AAU or anybody else, they got approval from nobody else? Mr. KIwAN. No; as far as we are concerned, when they got out approval that is it. Mr. DELLENDACK. Do you give your approval without checking to see if any other agency has given its approval ? Mr. KiwAN. In the few instances where we have teams go overseas, and one I can think of is a community college from St. Louis that toured England and France, we gave them our approval. Now, they know that they have to get additional approval, because if they went overseas without that additional approval, it is possible they might not be allowed to play. But that has nothing to do with NJCAA. Mr. DELLE1VBACK. In determining whether or not you give your ap- proval, you do not determine whether they asked anybody else for approval, or indeed have anybody else's approval I Mr. KILLIAN. No. Mr. DELLENDACK. In determining whether or not you are going to give your approval you look only to certain basics? Mr. KILLIAN. That is right. But we would inform them, sir, that even though they have 100-percent approval from us, they are ready to go, 157 that if they leave the country, there is a possibility that they might not be able to play once they got there if they do not have approval from the international governing body. Mr. DELLENBACK. Let's assume whatever happens on that, they go and don't play or go and do play, they come back here. There are no retributions that you exercise against them as Individuals or as teams d Or anything else? Mr. KILLIAN. No, sir. Mr. DELLENBACK. But they must get that approval from you and if they don't get that approval from you on your 9(b), then you do take measures? Mr. KILLIAN. Right. Let mb point out, sir, we are not doing this in any way to stop anybody from doing anything. All we try to do is protect our membership. I point out again and again and again that we don't just sit in Hutchinson, Kans., and run our national office like an ivory tower. We don't make these rules, the rules are made by our members. Mr. DELLEMIACK. By representatives of the members? Mr. KILLIAN. Right. Mr. DELIA:MUCK. Not by all of the 583 colleges? Mr. KILLIAN. Yes; we feel so, because in our constitution, every change in our rules and regulations is circulated 80 days beforehand to each and every member college. We feel that we have a true pulse reading, of our membership. Mr. DEtaissnatex. I am not quarreling with whether your repre- sentative system is a good one or bad one, whether you are dealing with the Government of the United States or the NCAA or the Presbyterian Church, they are all good representative governments, and we don't have to go into discussions on whether you have the vote of the indi- vidual under the Athenian democracy system or what. Mr. SIKVKLER. I think we can't emphasize too strongly how impor- tant it is for some organization, whether it is NJCAA or whatever it is, to click out for the teams before going overseas that they are going to have the proper accommodations. Three summers ago I had occasion to go over with the U.S. basket- ball team in the tour of the Iron Curtain countries and, honestly, the conditions we lived under were so substandard that if I knew ahead of time I would certainly have discouraged anyone from making that tour. In Rmania, in particular. the conditions were just unreal. They had hunk beds closed at the ends 6 feet long for players 7 feet tall, and food that was utterly inedible. When we contacted the Embassy in Rumania, we were told that they never even knew the State Depart- ment was sending a team over. These were the conditions we ran into. It was not really the countries themselves. I might add the Iron Curtain countries, Poland and Rumania, did everything possible to assist us but it was ill planned by the State Department and I am sure the NJCAA would not have let a member of the NJCAA go on a tour until things had been checked out and guarantees had been made for proper accommodations and that is why we think it is important we be involved. Mr. DELLENOACK. NJCAA had not given approval? 15S BEST COPYAVAILABLE Mr. Kii.LtAx. This was not necessary because it was individual play- ers, players front all different colleges throughout the country. Mr. Dmi.listi.v.K. It did not have approval of the NJCAA? Mr. Kii.LiAx. It. was not necessary because the NJCAA college that went over didn't need it. lfr. Dei.i. xictek. It did not have vproval, I just wont to make sure, it did not have approval ? Mr. KILLIAN. NO: because it was not necessary. As a matter of fact, we didn't have junior college players on the particular team. Mr. Det.txxismtK. Did it have approval of the :UM Mr. KILLIAN. Yes. Mr. DELLENDACK. Also the approval of the NCAA ? Mr. ICit,iemx. Yes; I was going to add one item to what Mr. Smukler said, that team was pulled together from the NCAA, NITA. N.TCA A. and the American Association for health, Physical thin and Recreation because they are constituent members of the r.S. Collegiate Sport Council. sponsors of the World University GIMPS, and that. tour mum out of that organization. We had all of the major orga t ions togetlie r. I believe the roaeli of the team win: art NAT. man and the as- sistant coach was an NJCAA. man and the manager was a person who will testify bite,. this week before you. Mr. Wall, from the NCAA, so that the four of its got together and through the State De- artment. we went overseas and didn't have any problems. except the living conditions were so bad that, as Mr. Smolder pointed out, we couldn't stand them. Mr. Dmexawa. That is the very reason von give its as absolutely essential why there should be certification of meets, of trips, in order to be sure there will be good living accommodations. And in this par- ticular instance while you got your procedural intergroup arrange- ments squared away. the reasons you have given us as to why you need approval of all of the agencies with the exception of the NJCAA. you didn't accomplish what you intended, :iipposeilly to pro- tect. the kids. Mr. ICti,taAx. Right: I think this makes a good point.. because here is a tom being run by the TT.S. Government and the State Depart- ment. You would think if you are going to check anything out and could believe anybody going overseas, you could believe the State Dept, rtment. Mr. DELLExn.wit. So the NCAA leaned on the State Department to give its approval, as did the AMY and didn't check it out them- sel tea? Mr. Wit.t.t.vs. That I don't know, but the point. I make is you can See how easy it is to allow people to make trips and you can depend. I guess the ultimate would be the State Department, we took the State Department's word this was going to be a 100-percent grand tour and when the people got to Rumania, they found this was not so. So now when you are asking me whether or not we are going to take rare of one of our own constituent members of our own organi- zet ion, yes, we are. We are going to be very careful, when we approve these things, to see that. our people are going to get exactly what they are supposed to be getting. 4 159 Mr. Dkaisamincx. That is a dangerous example because it could be used either way. It could be used as criticism of the State Depart- ment. Mr. law Ax. I don't mean to criticize the State Department. Mr. DELLENBACIL It could also be used as an example of the worth- lessness of the AAU, NCAA, and also for their approval, because they are supposed to give these approvals in order to protect the young athlete and apparently didn't accomplish this. Mr. SMUKLER. I Ill:ght edd it was still a groat experience, the food notwithstanding. Mr. DELLENTIACK. Its spite of the bunk beds. I assume you are not over 6 feet tall. Mr. Satunim. No, sir, I slept comfortably. Mr. DELLENBACK. Tho N3CA A represents only about 0 percent of the colleges and junior colleges in the country. Mr. KILLIAN. No, we have 588 members. Mr. DELLENBACK. How many community colleges and junior col- leges are there in the country I Mr. KILLIAN. You have to be careful in that figure because if you look in the American Association of Junior Colleges manual you find TOO or 800 pretty close and when you start checking you find a lot are girls' schools. The only State we really do not represent is Cali- fornia. We are talking also, as Dr. Smukler pointed out, about those that have intercollegiate programs. As Dr. Smukler pointed out, of the number in there you have to lint! out how many have intercollegiate athletic programs. Mr. DmExnArn. The total we have on this is closer to 1,000. Mr. KILLIAN. Yes; you are taking the figure out of the AAJC. books. Mr. DELLENBACX. Do anv institutions which are members of the N.TCAA also belong to the NCAM Mr. WitiLtAx. No;. I should correct that. There are one or two I think that hold as sociate membeiships. I know of one that does. Mr. DELLENBACIL How about NATA I Mr. KILLIAN. I don't believe so. Mr. DELLENBACK. Thank you very much. Mr. LEHMAN. Could I ask you a couple of questions? Mr. KILLIAN. Yes. Mr. LEHMAN. I think we all ought to arrange a paddle ball team tour. Mr. Dellenback is one of the best players in Congress. You mentioned girls' schools. Is there such a thing as junior college girls' school that is a member of your organization I Mr. KILLIAN. No; not that I know of that is predominently women, no. Mr. LEHMAN. Have any women athletes participated in the junior college sports program? Mr. KILLIAN. Yea. Mr. LEHMAN. They are eligible to go overseas? Mr. KILLIAN. Yes; we are one of the few national organizations that allow women to participate in our national programs and they are allowed to play anything that we have. 160 Mr. LEHMAN. Let me ask two more questions and wrap it up. Has any particular young man or woman been deniedeligibility for over- seas sports programs? Mr. KILLTAN. Not since I have been executive director and I have been there since we opened the office and I know of no one that has \ever been refused. Mr. LVAIMAN. The last question. In this new proposed bill, which would set up what we call a Federal scholastic amateur sports com- mission that is to supervise, are you familiar with it or do you see the necessity of setting up this commission? Mr. IttimAx. No, I don't. Mr. TAIIMAN. You don't think it is needed? Mr. KILLIAN. No, sir. Mr. LioimAx. Thank you very much. Mr. Lmisr.ot [presiding]. Mr. Duey is our next witness. Mr. A. 0. Doer is the executive director and secretary of the Na- tional Association of Intercollegiate Athletics. Mr. Drier was here on March 5, when we were looking into specifically the refusal by the NCA A to permit, member colleges' coaches and studentathletes to partieivate in the coining tour of the United States by the Soviet basketball team at last year's Olympic Gaines. We learned when Mr. biter was here then that his association, the NAIA, leaves the tlecib:on as to whether an individual student-athlete or conch may participate in international competition up to the presi- dent of the college or university involved. At the time of the March 5 hearing. H.R. 5628 and H.R. 5624 had not yet been latroduced. Because of his long experience and great personal kno..% ledge regarding amateur sports in this country and because of the importance of the organization he represents, the NATA, we felt that ve needed to ask Mr. Mier to return to give us his views on the legislative proposals we are now considering. He has graciously consented to do so. STATEMENT OF A. 0. DYER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND 0E0E- TART OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS Mr. Dm. Thank you, Mr. Lehman. This issue, as I understand it, at the present time has to do extensively and almost completely with international competition, the right of athletes and caches and indi- viduals to participate in amateur competition on the international level. However, if I may ask your indulgence, I should like to point out a few of what I think are significant factors, not just in inter- national competition, which is the problem at the present time, but as to the importance of amateurism in the United States below that level. We have hundreds of thousands of youths who participate and wish to participate in amateur athletics who never reach the level of inter- national competition. We believe, I personally believe, that ',here is no area of American life which gives the training in character, Pourage, and team play, which we need in our leadmship, as does the amateur athletic program. I am not saying that is all of the answer, but it is certainly a major answer. 161

'rho trends in the United States today are that we challenge every law, every rule, oven every tradition. Everybody wants todo his own thing. Individial rights aro foremost. We are living in a very frus- trated and segmented society. Ono of the greatest needs in the expres- sion and development of aiuiahurIlletieS below and MO to the inter- national level is that. of faeilities. I think the United States has a great responsibility to develop facilities that make it possible for these thousands of athletes on the lower level of anutteur competition to have the experience of hard, keen competition on the field of play. Now, the points of time two bills, 11.11. 5623 and H.R. 50:14. I am firmly convinced, after some 10 years of serving on-committees from the Senate and serving on international committees with the Olympic Association, that we have reached at point. where we must admit that the organizations themselves have not done the job, that the conflicts between orgsnizatimam. their refusal to art in the common good, and possibly you cannot. judge motives. but possibly, in some instances it seems that power is more inmoortant than the individual athlete. The programs of international competition are for the individual Athlete, mot for the organization. I have studied these bills and I think there may be some misie`,rpretation. I guess I inn a little like the man who said, "please excuse this long statement, I got this bill last. Friday and I had no time to write a shorter one." UM 56:NI is short and concise and deals with the point at issue and that is the cooperation of organizations in international competition. It does not. exist at the present time and some force must be brought into plat- which will make these organizations conscious of their re- sponsiilities, not just to their own organizati,ms, not. just to amateur athletics, but a loyalty and a self-sacrifice of their athletes and them- selves to the best interest of our country. I alit quite impressed with Mil. W23, because it deals with insisting and forcing and preventing organizations front, issuing sanctions that will keep its athletes from malting their own decisionalongwith their institution as to whethernilathlete can compete on an iinternational team. When there is cooperation, these events of international competition are normally arranged outside of the season of play. That issensible. That. is normal. It is bemuse of the fact that that is when their athletes will be free to compete and participate. We have a team at this time participating, or will be participating in the next. few days, a NAIA all-star team in Israel that happens to he our responsibility. In order to get that team to participate, we had to do two things. Well, we didn't have to do two things, we did two things. The first thing is. there is an International Board of Basketball that has been appointed by the International Federation in the 'United States because of this conflict of interest, who will approve of teams for international competition. That. organization is the MB, the International Board of Basketball. This involves the NCAA. AATT, NAIA. and other basketball governing organizations within the States. As mentioned it is necessary that certain supervision or certain preparation he assured. Not too many years ago, we have seen an in- stance where teams did not have sure financial arrangements and they 162 got to Europe or say to Smith America and were stranded and had to be brought home by various and sundry means. So, especially in the financial area there is need for care in advising teams, not telling them, but advising teams when the situation is right and that it is wise that they make an international tour. Our organization does not, as was stated, tell an athlete or an in- stitution when its athletes may participate in international competi- tion. We leave that entirely to their discretion and they do it pretty well. In the Israel tour, there were instances where an athlete had to check with each one of his professors to give him the judgment as to whether it was wise to participate in this international competition because of his academic progress. He might have to make a decision on whether he wanted to graduate that spring, but that is tb..ir re- sponsibility, not the national organization's. I have some concerns about H.It. 5624. I will try to express them briefly. I have a concern that there is not enough consideration for the process of developing amateur rules. I already said I believe amateur- ism is a must in our democracy because it gives things that no other area of competition can give. But I do believe that the entry of Federal control in the area of amateurism would not be wise because of the nature of amateurism as it effects the educational institution primarily. I am concerned about in all areas of education, as I pointed out, in all areas we are getting to the point of due recourse and every ride goes to a Federal court, to n district court. and that concerns me very deeply in education. It concerns me about the future of our society. In a democracy especially, in educational institutions, where we are sup- posed to be able to solve our own problems with some wisdom, it con- corns we when we get to the point that we must have Federal inter- vention, Federal interpretation, even when one athlete breaks the rules, as to whether certain things have been done in due recourse, be- cause I believe that legally, when that becomes necessary, we have lost something in our society. I believe that when we have to have a Federal court for every decision made in a college, and that is what it could come to, that we have lost the freedom of our society to make decisions on wisdom and judgment and you would say, I am sure, that this has come about, and it. is true that these things have comeabout because of the abuse, because of the conflicts between organizations, which is demanding, which is beneath our reasonable expectation as to how we should goy- ern ourselves and I would come bark to the amateur rules. I sincerely believe that there is sonic justification for putting pres- sure on even every amateur body to somehow give them a shock treat- ment to work again to the common good and not be so concerned about their own selfish interests and power. Amateurism is being destroyed and if we lose amateurism, we are losing a very, very significant part of our society. Amateurism is being destroyed partially by legalism, but partially bemuse of the struggle for power within the amateur organizations of the united States. This must be stamped out. Whenever you get power struggles and power voting, to the extent that one organization wires for the organization instead of for the

,F:F3 103 principle that is involved, you have lost your ability to make wise de- cisions and this liar happened and this has happened in this amateur struggle. I am here this morning not bemuse I think I have a great wisdom, even though I have been in this business for some 85 years, I am here because I am so convinced of the value of amateurism, I am so con- vinced we host our way and cannot fluid it at this tune, I am so convinced that it is not the only hurting the athlete, first of all, but it is hurting the United States of America if we are going to maintain international honor and integrity in competition. Let me just sayhere,international competition will be lost, even up to and includingi the Olympic games, unless we can find some type of integrity, some type of tall'lleaR, team play, sportsmanship between ebntries. There were some incidents in the Olympic games which indicated there was political weakness between nations, which gave one nation power over another in winning. That is the loss of amateur- ism in this instance. So that I believe we have to go back to the base, we have to go far beyond international competition in solving this prol dem. We have to somehow bring organizations to their senses that they have responsibility far beyond their own selfish growth and development. I don't, want to impose upon your time, so I will close at this point and give you an opportunity to ask questions. Mr. LEII3tAN. Thank you very much. Mr. Dellenback. Mr, Dir.t.thmtincx. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Doer, we appre- ciate vonr being hack before us again. May I ask a couple of questions specifically on the record of this hearing, which I think will be repeti- tive of what you put in before. Does the NAIA actually certify meets or athletic contests? Mr. Dm. No, NAIA sponsors its own programs. Beyond that we do not or we certify certain special events that have nothing to do with oar program itself. Mr. Dztaxstincit. So you have your own programs in the way of competition and championships awl the like? Mr. Drew. Yes. Mr. DELI,NDACK. In addition to that, are you on occasion in a posi- tion to certify other events. Mr. Dtrn. No. I don't know of any events that we sanction or certify. Mr. Dzi.t.r.xnArit. Outside of your own? Mr. DM %. Yes; outside of mu. own. Mr. Dro.f.r.xnAcK. Do you have anything to do with events that are outside of your own regular program? Mr. Drtn. Not specifically NAIA, for instance in the instance of national Russian competition my office was called to see if we would encourage our athletes to participate and the answer was, yes,defi- nitely, hut we have no control, no sanction of that event. Mr. DELLENnnett. So your comment on that particular series of games had no effect, in the sense of either the approvalbeing necessary w!th dire results following if it was not given or your approval making it possible for some athletes to participate 'who otherwise Would not participate? 164 Mr. DVS% That is up to the president of the institution themselves providing it is an amateur event. Mr. DRIMRNRAOK. As far as this noninvolvement is concerned, this applies to both national and international events outside ofyour own programs? Mr. Dunn. Yes; our institutions are entirely able to participate in two types of national competition. Mr. Mut:1mm. What aboutwell, excuse me. go ahead. You say they are able to participate in two types. Whatare the two? Mr. Duni. Those are NCAA events and NAIA events if they hold dual membership andwe have a fourth of our members who are dual members of both organizations. Mr. DELLENRACK. You said in your testimony, Mr. Deer, your organization, NAIA, advises athletes or institutions relative to interna- tional competition. Is this correct Mr. DrEa. Yes, this is correct. Mr. DELLErmAric. Do you ever check th, -ents out on your own or do you check them out only after sonwHody made application to you and asked you to cheek them out ? Mr. Mtn. No; we normally check them when somebody writesus and if they ask, "do we want to take the tour,"or, "is it wise," we tell them to apply to the international basketball board because it has direct contact with the international body in the sport in which they are participating and that is an international relationship. Mr. DELLENRACK. But that, is merely advice? Mr. Dume. Right. Mr. DnuENBACK. If a member of the NATA wrote toyou and asked you to cheek something out. and you wrote them back and said they should do t dew partici% tar things, and they did not followyour advice, and von advised them it was a rotten idea and they still went ahead, insofar as NATA is concerned there would heno repercussion insofar as either the school or the athlete is concerned lk fr. Dun. This is right. Mr. DEMENRACK. Tt is their decision ? Mr. Dunn. Right, let me say there is one other thingwe suggest they do, that is, that they contact the Department of State and inform them so that the Department. of State in the countries where they are going can alert their embassies and give them great assistance in this case. This is not a requirement, but it is additional. Afe. DP.t.umamitc. It seems to me there is a fundamental distinction in this regard with the NCAA. and AA IT, and toa degree. 141,117A1 in one ramp and NAIA in the other camp. And you merely advise that if a member institution makes the decision, together with the athlete, that it will either participate or not participate and even if it is counter to your advice, You take no action against them relative to international participation. Is that correct ? Mr. Dun. That is correct. Mr. DELLEximex. You will not. I suppose even advise unless you are asked for the advice, although there may be times in which you would circulate your membership and give them what general infor- mation von have on the event I suppose? Mr. Dry.a. Yes; we would feel the responsibility if we knew the situation was bad or the person who was organizing it, andwe have 165 some problems with athletes as well as everywhere else, if an organiza- tion had a bad experience once,we would alert them, but there is no pressure on them to abide by that. Mr. Draitivrinnetc. Our concern andsome of us are very reluctant about being iinvolved in this subject matter at all, butour concern is the athlete, that he or she not be taken advantage of, that heor she be protected, and we have apparently here two different philosophiesas to how best you do it. I read the NAIA as saying, your program,as far as you are con- cerned, protects the athlete, protects the institution, protects the coach, but it protects him not by your saying to them, "Thou shaltor shalt not." It protects by leaving the decisions up to them andyou are saying "We will give you this advice as to what decisionyou should make, but you must live with that decision, either institutesor athletes." Mr.Duxa. This is basically true, our standards,our rules, our whole organization is based on the fact we do not want to overcontrol. We want to adopt rules below which they shall not go rather than to get bigger and higher and have more rules that would hurt thatperson. Mr. DELLysnAcx. We appreciate your deep concern with the prob- lem and we appreciate your past help and again now and we thank you for being here. Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. Peyser ? Mr. PEYSEE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I apologize for not being here at the opening of your testimony but my plane getting in from New York was an hour and a half late. I did hear though a good deal of your testimony and comments. though. I want you to know that it is certainly the intent of myself, as the author of one of these bills, 11.11. 5624, and I know Mr. 011ara as well goes along, we do not want the Federal Government taking over amateur athletics. This is not our intent at all and we want to keep whatever controls we have to a minimum. I have a question following along the lines that Mr. Dellenback just spoke about. If NCAA was to take an action against an athlete or against a school and then that athlete or that school was to be sched- uled to participate in a NAIA meet or event, it would have no bearing on it, is that correct ? Mr. DITY.n. That is correct. 311. PeYsEn. Then if the NCAA said that this man could not com- pete, it has no bearing as far as your organization is concerned; Mr. Dm. That is correct.. Mr. Pxvszu. I think that is very important because I think this is the way the operation should work. But there were a couple of com- ments you made that I ant not quite clear on. You were referring to Mt. 5624 and you said that it does not do enough to promote amateur rules. Mr. Dram. No: I am sorry if I was misunderstood. Mr. PiAsEn. Then what aid you mean? Mr. Driln. No; I am concerned about the Federal Government in- volving themselves too deeply in the development of amateur rules. I believe the focal point of this hearing has not to do with amateur rules themselves but amateur rules for international competition. Mr. PEYSER. That is all the bill seeks, international competition.

A 14'4'1 e 166 Mr. Dyzn. Yes. Mr. PaYSEIL It does not seek anythingon a local or domestic level. Mr. Dmm. Then I somewhat misinterpreted the statement that the Commission had the right to develop such amateur rules. Mr. PEYSER. Page 3, paragraph 2,or section 2, you say it specifically states : In international athletic competition. Nowhere in this legislation is it the intent or does it infer that itwas in any way to enter on the ground of amateur competition domesti- cally at all, in either qualifications, rules or anything else. ltr. Dm. I misinterpreted it. The Commission is authorizedto es- tablish such policies and prescribe such procedureas rules and regula- tions as it deems necessary to administer the act and its purposes. I misinterpreted it to mean it might have an influence on develop- ment of amateur rules and that would be impossible. Mr. PEYSER. I would agree completely and I want to clarify be- cause it specifically only speaks to the international athletic situation. Mr. Dula Yes. Mr. NYSE% Another point you made, is that you did not want the courts making the decisions in these situations. My understanding of the bill 5624 is that really the court decisions -would play no role here however, in 5623, page 3, it specifically gives the district court the jurisdiction over these disputes. One of the prob- lems I have with 5623 is that it does make each case, in effect., stand before the courts, I am saying exactly what you say, I don't want the court to have another case such as the Richmond case. The reason we have gone the route of suggesting the establishment of a Commission to handle this international competition is that the courts would not be involved, because we don't think each case should end up in front of a District Court. Yet 5623 specifically says, The District Court shall have jurisdiction for cause shown to restrainviola- tions of section number so and so and so and :4 I am wondering if that is the way yoifunderstand it? Mr. Dun. No; I understood that the responsibility of the organiza- tion and the use of the courts, I understood it was a little more basic than that, than 5624. Mr. PEYSER. No; in 5624 the Commission itself, would have the au- thority. In other wordsif we ran into a situation such as we just had with AM? and NCAA ,refusing to get together, the Commission, in effect, has the right of that decision, not the court. Mr. Men. Another point I was concerned about, I wondered why, and I do not like to involve politics in athletics, I wondered why there was a statement to the effect that two from each party would be selected for the Commission. Mr. Pima% If there is such a statement here, a few from each party, by "party" you mean "political party"? Mr. Dm. Political party. Mr. Prrszu. I tell you I would strike that? Mr. Dunn. I would, too. Mr. PEYSE11. If that somehow slipped into this, I would strike it.

172 167 BEST COPY AVAILABLE Mr. Duca. Yes; because I. think there should not be the basis of decisions before this party. Mr. Puscit. I beg your pardon. It is not quite worded the way you suggested because I couldn't quite believe we would have that situa- tion. It says : "Not more than two of the eommissionen shall be ap- pointed from the same political party." Mr. DrEn. That is right. Mr. Pi YSE% In other words, the only thing we try to do there is to keep politics out of it, so you won't have five Republicans or five Democrats appointed into the Conunission. Mr. Dm. I wouldn't care whether there were five Democrats or five Republicans so long as they were dedicated to the ideals. Mr. PaYsint. I agree with you completely, but we wanted to take away the opportunity of a patient appointment. You understand? Mr. DUEL Yes. Mr. PysKit. I would like to conic back and get your thinking, because I think it is important here on this question of the court, to which you made reference. Mr. DUER. Yes. Mr. l'Evszu. As you look at it now, do you still feel, that t1624 is involved in putting this into the court and 5623 is not? Mr. Dun. It involves itself much more I think in legalism. The Commission is authorized to secure data and so forth from Federal departments or age! news and enforce injunctions upon application by the Attorney General ngainsi the CommiAsion in nets of violation and so forth. The Commission itself could have that responsibility but when yon turn to the courts it becomes a legal matter. I am not a lawyer and don't pretend to be. Mr. PEV AR% I think that the basic idea is that in 5624 the Commis- sion will establish these regulations and under 5023, it is up to the courts to solve the dispute. I would not want it to appear as though you were indicating that 5024, in effect, is dealing with the courts and 5623 is not Mr. Dram I don't know where the line is drawn. I have said that it seems that we cannot solve our own problems and I don't know whe the Federal Governmentwell, how far they should gowhere I, line is drawn and where you have still amateur athletics with a freed( .4, in our society mum not forced to do things by the court. Mr. PEYSER. Of course this is exactly what all of us want as well. Mr. Dm. Then I misinterpreted your bill. Mr. PEYSKW. Well, I appreciate that because I think understanding of that is important. Thank you very much and thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Lin IRAN. 'thank you, Mr. Peyser. The way I look at this, it is not so much the amateurism versus professionalism of AAU or NCAA that is involved, although I have my own personal feelings on this: but what bothers meis I would like something set up so that the individual rights of the individual ath- letes would not be infringed upon by any of these agencies. I think that is the only thing that is important in this whole hearing and I think perhaps. if we can set it up this way, whether with a Com- mission or with the court or whatever, I think no person's eligibility 168 should he removed because ofsome particular organization saying that he has done something contrary to that organization'swishes. I think this is whatwe have to maintain throughout, that is the individual rights of the individual athleteas long as he does not do anything criminal, that he is eligible to play. kr. ME% I fullyagree and I fully would express the point of view that the philosophy and the intent of organizations,amateur organi- zations, must be changed in order to make it possiblefor these athletes to have their opportunity in a democraticway to participate. Now, they have come up, and letus not forget that these athletes have come up through these programs andto that extent they have been given the opportunity to participate and theyhave some respon- sibility to the organization itself, but not to theextent that the orga- nization can then turn around andsay, "You shall not participate in this because of a technical citation." Mr. LEHMAN. The athlete should not be caught inthe crossfire of a power struggle between organizations. Mr. DUEL. And he is. Mr. Immo:. In doing so, hisown individual rights are diminished. Mr. Dm. That is right and thatcountry is dead. Mr. LEIIMAN. Just that much. Thereare a lot of things that damage the country more, but this isone of the contributing factors. Mr. DYER. I am not quite sure I wouldagree with that and I don't want to prolong this, but the power of might and strength andfame, all of these thing's, are not going to make the differencein this country that integrity and so forth will make. Mr. LEHMAN. We need our heroes. Mr. MEL Yes and we need men of great stature and integrityif we are going to save the United States from diminishing. Mr. LEHMAN. Thank you very much. Mr. Wilson is our next witness. Throughout this country there are individuals andgroups of per- sons who, solely because of their devotion to sports and especially to one particular sport, give great amounts of time and sizablesums of their own money to furthering that particularsport. They are never or only rarely seen on television. We do not reada great deal about thent in our newspapers. A group of people of the kind I have in mindare the members of the U.S. Modern Pentathlon and BiathlonAssociation. The president of that association isour next witness. He is Mr. George M. Wilson. The U.S. Modern Pentathlon and BiathlonAssociation isi concerned with developing, training, and selectingpentathlon and biathlon teams to represent the United States in Olympicgames, Pan Ameri- can games, world championships, and other internationalcompeti- tions. It conducts trial competitions, nationalchampionships, and in- ternational competitions. Pentathlon consists of competition in fiveevents, one a day, over a period of 5 consecutive days. The fiveevents are horseback riding, epee fencing, pistol shooting, swimming, andcross-country running. Biathlon consists of two events combinedinto one competition. Con- testants ski crass- country 121/2 miles, stoppingat four intervalF to fire five shunts at a target.. Many of the athletes who participatein these and other less-pub- licized sports are students in collegesand unis eisities, Mr. WilsonIs 174 169 here to diseus:4 the pending legislation from the point of view of his and similar organizat ions. 1)o you have a statement you would like to submit for the record? If so, without objection it may be included in the record or you may proceed in any manner you wish. Mr. Wttsox. I think maybe for our benefit it might be wise if I read my statement because it is not too long. Mr. LEHMAN. Yes, sir. STATEMENT OP GEORGE N. WILSON, PRESIDENT, U.S. MODERN PENTATHLON AND BIATHLON ASSOCIATION Mr. Wu soy. I appreciate the opportunity to appear before this committee. I am pleased by this committee's interest in the welfare of amateur athletes and the proper administration of amateur sports in this country. Many of us who volunteer our time and energies to this wonderful cause share the growing public concern over the present influences threatening the freedom of athletes and their opportunities to repro. sent this country in international sports competitions. It is important to recognize, however. that the basic problems creat- ing this concern are not presently peculiar to all national sports governing bodies. It has been my experience that the 19 national sports bodies in the United States governing Olympic sports as well as several organi- zations also sanctioned for international competitions, including world championships, generally work In a spirit of common interest toward the development of the amateur athletes of this country and the hest representation for the United States in international competitions. It is unfortunate that, at this point in history, 1 of those 19 organi- zations, the AMY, is being challenged by the headquarters of the NCAA over the availability of student athletes to represent the United States. Any attitude or action thwarting the freedoms of amateur athletes to be a part of a national effort is certainly cause for this publie concern. I view the present situation concerning amateur sports in this coun- try as generally healthy. although many deterrents confront us from time to time. I like to practice the philosophy that out of difficulties or tragedies we find some good and gain the strength to prevail. The icent nonavailability of some of this country's hest amateur athletes to perform in competition against athletes of the Soviet Union is. I believe, a tragic invasion of personal freedoms and harmful to national image. Perhaps out of the concern by this committee. so...e added health for amateur sports will be forthcoming. This may be the good for which we are all looking. It is difficult to legislate for the degree of wisdom necessary to control the integrity of an organization or an institution. It SPPHIS appropriate. therefore, that legislation should take the form of pro- tection against the rommon human frailties involved in being able to withstand reprisals. I believe that the hill, 11.11. Min, "protection of athletes and eonelles," is an action directed to the heart of the major difficulty; however, I believe the bill can be improved and strengthened. The

ryr MIMUSE 1161ttri 170 bill in its present form deals with the prevention of restrictive meas- ures against athletes or coaches for having participated in interna- tional competitions. The bill should, however, include trainers, man- agers, and other administrative personnel in addition to athletes and coaches. I agree with these restrictions, but there is another area which relates to and precedes the actual participation in international COM- petitions which must be protected. That is the freedom of athletes, coaches, trainers, managers. or any other personnel, to vie for the opportunity to he selected and to participate in international com- petitions. There is a normal pipeline or procedure to qualify. This may involve progression through one or a series of competitive ectivi- ties in order to he selected as an individual athleteor as a member of a U.S. team. The bill should, therefore. protect that freedom to enter and participate in any and all such (plan fying activities, providing they meet. and comply with the requirements for entry and By omission, the bill, as presently written, nukes it possible to restrict the availability of such personal throughat denial of an opportunity to qualify through the selection process. This provision could heac- complished by including it in the first paragraph of the billor by placing it in a separate section as a positive statement of this freedom. There appears to be one other section that should be inserted,pos- sibly as section 1304 with the present 1104 renumberedas 1305. Sec- tion 1804. then, could address the subject of preventinga parent orga- nization from exercising any form of punishment. suchas restriction of programs, probationary action,or economic or other deterring sanc- tions against a member organization, institution, club,or individual for having provided amateur athletes, conches,or other individuals an opportunity to qualify for and, if selected, represent the United States in international competition. I cannot speak in favor of bill, H.R. 5624, and with all due respect to Mr. Peyser, I am sure von have a sincere desire, sir, to resolve these questions, the subject of "Federal Scholastic and Amateur Sports Act. of 1973." I believe amateur sports of this country would be threatened with political patronage if this bill were passed. There are no visible assurances in the bill for prevention of the present conflicts. Correetive action would be delayed or possibly never brought to conclusion. The open end freedom to "promulgate rules and other regulations which relate to the participation of amateur ath- letes" with those rules and regulations to preempt all others, is tanta- mount to the possible destruction of the national sports governing bodies in this country, or the creation of greater conflicts thanpres- ently exist. The use of authority to preempt all other rules and regulations could easily stimulate a challenge to the eligibility of U.S. athletes for international competitions. The international sports federations, unions, or associations determine the playing rules, regulations for amateurism, and the eligibility tocompete.The national governing bodies follow these rules and regulations. We must realize thata gov- ernment commission in our democratic system does not have author- ity. and I speak with all due respect to the U.S. Government, does not have the authority to make entries or regulate entries into international sports competitions. Only the national governing bodies,as determined 17C 171 BEST COPY AVAILABLE through the international sports governing organizations, have this authority. I realize that in many countries the sports organizations are a part of the national governmental structure. 1 doubt that this is the road the United States wishes to take. There may be benefits for this type of structure, but there are also 111111V 1 can visualize the mil- lions who volunteer their time, ettorts, and funds to the U.S. effort losing interest and the present feeling of closeness to sports. Public donations of funds to sustain our efforts would, in all probability, be severely diminished. Many would blame the Government for using taxes to run a sports program. It is probable that each political party would blame another for any defeat in an international athletic contest. With amateur athletes, coaches, and others provided the freedom to qualify for and represent the United States in international cometi- turns, we can expect to witness our better efforts in such representa- . t ion. I would add that we cannot expect to always do our best; however, we can always expect to do better. I do not recommend 5624, but respectfully urge favorable consideration of II.R. 5623 with the recommended changes. [Addendum to Mr. Wilson's statement follows:]

ADDENDUM TO STATEMENT OF GEORGE M. WHAM, I'UESIDENT, UNITED STATES MoDERN VENTATHLoN AND BIATHLON AsSoOtATION I believe that any amateur sports organization has the obligation to protect the rights of amateur athletes to participate in legally organised international sports events if they qualify. Any restrieture action should not be exercised against an athlete simply for having participated in such an event. The freedom to so participate carries with it the responsibility for proper conduct, protection of amateur status and also the protection of the rights of fellow athletes. If an athlete demonstrates abandonment of or disregard for his respon- sibilities there should be some provision for correction, or prevention of such actions in future events. The responsibility for monitoring athletes is and should remain that of the national governing body for the sport as specified by interns' tional rules and regulations. But each National Amateur Sports governing body as well as other organiza- tions administering amateur athletes in this country must exercise their respon- sibilities in the spirit of service for the athletes and in the athletes hest interests. Reek organizations must not be permitted to flaunt those responsibilities with the view toward developing or maintaining power of the organi:ation. Legislation should be structured to ensure the service concept and if any sports organizioon administering amateur athletes in this country over-reacts and/or disregu to.. that responsibility it would be subject to the provisions of such legislation. I interpret the intent of MIL 5623 as directed toward such a healthy structure. Mr. WILSoN. I have not discussed these bills with our mutual friend, Mr. Duer, but I share many of his concerns about amateur athletics in this country. When I make the statement that I believe that the amateur programs in this country are generally healthy, I mean that in all sincerity, because it has been my experience that in working together with the various organizations we do have a common interest, and the best interest of representation and the development of the best programs possible for youngsters on the broad scale. But we are dealing here with the question of international competition and there- fore my prepared statement dealt only with that subject, I think that there is need, definite need for, let's say, intervention, if that is a proper word, to bring about better understanding and better cooperation among some organisations governing sports in this 20-726-74-12 177 172 country. I feel also that organizations which, in an effort to maybe m.ize influenee. perstma I or organizationalwise, and use it at least in that effort are certainly not acting in the best interests of all of our athletes. I would hope that this committee, and I am sure this committee is giving every consideration to the difficulties involved, couldcome out with it reasonable solution. If you have any questions I would be glad to answer them. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you for your statement., Mr. Wilson. and for your support for the Mil that Mr. Dellenback and I have introduced. As you know, our primary interest is in protecting the right of the student athlete to do his thing, or as Jack Langer, who was a witness, who got Yale University in great difficulty by deciding ho wanted to go to Israel to represent the United States in Maccabiah games, as he put it. athletics is a forin of self - expression. He is a basketball player and looked forward to the opportunity to participate and visit Israel and so forth, and we believe the Jack Langers of this world have a right to participate and express themselves in that way. Whether a young man has the ability to play a cello or do the broad jump, it is ability, and it is something he enjoys, and it is something he ought to have an opportunity to do without having some bunch of public bureaucrats coming in and telling him where, how, or when he can doit. That has been our principal concern. We find that these student athletes are the pawns in this struggle and we don't consider ourselves Solomon& and don't think we can solve all of the problems between the various competing amateur athletic organizations, but we think we ought to try to protect the rights of the student to give some degree of self-expression without having to fear that he or his school will be punished because what he has done does not meet with the aspiration of some athletic federation or other. That is our primary concern. I think that your suggestions about ways in which the bill could be improved are very appropriate. I thank you for making those suggestions. I want to inform you we will ex- amine them closely when we come to marking this bill up. Mr. Dellenback. Mr. Dia,LeseAcx. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is helpful, Mr. Wilsor, and we appreciate 'your statement. Does your organization certify any competitions or meets at all ? Mr. WiLsox. Yes; we do. Mr. DP:WOMACK. What are the repercussions for participation, or the results that follow if an athlete participates without there having been advance certification by your association ? Mr. WILSON. I have been connected with this organization for 11 or 12 years now. I know of no single case where we have taken any deter- rent action against, an athlete. We have athletes who do participate now and then in competition that we don't even know about. but our philosophy is that we try to stimulate competition. and perhaps our organization is not to the point where we have so many athletes that we would ever want to take punitive measures against, them for going out and participating in competition that they feel is to their best interest. The only time I can visualize some action being taken would be where an individual would become involved in a public scene and so

178 173 forth that would be derogatory to the community and the wholespec- trum of sports. Then we might take some action. I think anyone in- volved In any type of organization would then step in to prevent such things happening. Mr. DEMEND/WK. Well, the action you would take, Mr. Wilson, would it be action which would be predicatedon the things that were (lone by the athlete or in connection with the competition,Or would the actions you would take be because that competition had not beenprop- erly sanctioned, or certified. or approved,or somehow checked out in rt6ance by your association? Mr. Wirso.. No; it would be predicatedon the actions of the incdivi dual. Mr. DELLExamix. Is there any action that your association has been engaged in, or likely to be engaged in, where, becauseyou have not sanctioned, certified, approved, checked out, given advice in connection with, or whatever verb you would use at that stage of thegame, that you would take against a contestant in either of the two events that you are most concerned with because that event had not been checked out in advance by your association? Mr. Wthso.. We would not, and we have not to this point, and do not intend to at the present time. Mr. DELLENDWK. The pentathlon is a fascinating experience. Iam not familiar with the biathlon, nor have I ever participated in it. dot these are not as you stated in your testimony, as broadly competed inas are track and field, which are the two we have had the most testimony iu connection with. lint would you say within these broader fields of competition. some sort of certified approval would be desirable ifwe want trolly to protect the participant athlete or coach in order to be really sure the person involved really is proterted? Should there be some method of advance certification of a group? Mr. Wnisoy. I think advance certification is functional and profit- able in an overall way let's say, protection of the athlete. When von get involved in a broad program of that type that you mentioned, then there are so many facets involved that close scrutiny needs to be taken, and perhaps this is where sanctioning does serve as a beneficial aid to the athletes, so that you have an organization that can function and provide adequate representation for athletes. Mr. DELT.P..nten. Then you do think. under certain circumstances in the mass participation events, there should be or might desirably be certification or approval given in advance? Mr. Wiwi.. Yes; T think so. Mr. DELT,E.nArn. With sanction and repercussions to follow if it were not given and the athlete efirticiptars ? Mr. Ultimo.. The repercussions that followed would constitute an- other question on sanctioning which I cannot sit here really and be a judge in all eases. I think in those responsibilities, and any orga- nization assmning those responsibilities, must take each ease vidually and determine on its own merits what involvement there may be for the best interests of all athletes as well as the sole individual involved, and determine what action should be taken. Otitit.c.n.wu. You heard the testimony earlier this morning. As listened to these (lays of testimony in connection with this problem, I am evolving a conclusion that I it to Mr. Thier, T see basically two 174 different kinds of checking oat in advance. The one is a checkout and some advice given on the basis of the checkout, with theathlete and the institution being free to follow it, without peril of repercussion. Second 18 the checkout in advance, maybe taking the form of a certification with repercussions that could lam imposed as a result of a failure to go along with whatever that checkout said, that the athlete or institution would have no individual control over. Now I may be simplifying this too much, but in the event that my breakdown is correct, which would you feel we would or should move forward with legislatively? A situation whereby we do recognize that some associations, whichever ones they maybe, have the right to sanction, and if those approvals or sanctionsI should strike the word it sanction" because it isa very ambiguous word that isused in lots of different waysbut to aprove in advance an event with the power to bring about dire results for the athlete or institution ifthey par- ticipate with( .1t that approval having been given in advance. That is the first kind of situation. Is that what we should have in amateur athletics? Or would you have the second type of situation, which is exemplified byNAIA, where they do check out, and advise athletes and member institutions, but those athletes and institutions don't need to follow advice, and if they don't follow the advice there are no repercussions'? (.)r would you have somet hint: even less than that ? Mr. Wit.sox. We are talking about two different areas here. I under- stand your question, sir, but we are dealing with two di (fermi areas of programs. One is a program within this country or ethical Tonal in- stitution, that gives the latitude and freedom to participate outside of that institution or in specified example, the NAIA's own program. They have the comfort or time powibility to rely on another organiza- tion to de ymine the adequacy, and all of the other elements that go into international competition. Nfr. Det.LeNnAm.R. You are not referring to the State Department? Mr. Wusox. No; I am referring to each of the 19 or more national organizations that have that responsibility. Therefore, they can depend on these organizations then to cheek further and give approval to legitimate competition in which their people might ho involved. So that we have a slightly different situation evolving here. 6 Iwould say that in this case, yes, we need prior approval, we need solution, and I can go farther on in this for many reasons. Athletes, I am sure all of us realize are sometimes prone to accepting favors and so forth. wane large and some small. Tf they get involved in inter- national circles of competition, as well as others, sometimes they be- come involved in activities and actions that are nothealthy camped- tivewise as far as their amateur standing is concerned; which could also he, harmful to amateur sports. Therefore, we need these cheeks. But then when you come to the ((hest ion of "If an athlete competes in an event of this nature without prior monition," and I think that is the heart of your question, as to what then happens, which is where I maintain that each organization that ossmnes this responsibility. and I know it is true with ours and many others, must 111140 assume' the responsibility then to notexercise a hard anti fast rule which applies to all cases.they need to find out

180 175 what happened, and if an athlete did participate, and if all of his activities were open and above board, and no difficulty involved what- soever. I can say for sure that our association would not exercise any act to restrain that individual in the future, but would advise and assist in trying to keep him on the proper track so that it would make the future easier for all. Mr. DzLLENUACK. Let me be sure I understand the heart of what you just said. Aside from applying it to your association, are you saying that there should be in existence organizations which can certify and approve in advance? NIr. Wiliam Yes. Mr. DELLEInnex. If an athlew p irticipates in a noncertified or non- approved event, there should b au individual decision as to whether or not repercussions should follow for that athlete? Mr. Wiliam. Yes. Mr. DELLENBACK. Or are you saying that this association, having refused certification in advance, and thus having advised the athlete not to participate, has no power to disqualify or do injury to that ath- lete if the athlete participated in spite of this? Mr. Wn.sow. Under the present structure, they do have the power. Mr. DELLENBACK. Which way should it be? Mr. WILSON. The wording of your question, if I understood it cor- rectly, I would disagree with it. I believe that you used some phrase that would be harmful to the athlete, or something of that nature, then I would say no. But we must have some latitude in governing partici- pation in international sports which we are talking about. Mr. DErmainerc. We are not talking about whether amateurs or pros, or about taking something under the table, or anything of that sort. We will leave all of that aside. But this is simply a question of whether or not the athlete, maybe the institution or institutions, should be free to make the determination of whether or not he or she should participate. And if he does participate nobody is going to be able to say afterward he can't participate in international competition or in- tereollegiate competition. So where does the buck finally come to rest? Is it with the athlete and the institution, or is it somewhere outside, where some other organisation has the right to say, "We put some eowlitions on this situation, and if one of these athletes over hero rtici pates in one of these events when we have not certified that event, by jingo, then certain things that are deleterious are going to happen to that athlete." Tn the final analysis, whether or not you do it or don't, they ran say in the 7,000 eases that come before them, "We are never going to penalize you. We never have penalized you." Do they have the power? Mr. WiLsox. Under the present circumstances we do, yes. Mr. DELLExn.wic. Should they have? Mr. Wrbsox. This is a very (link& question, but I would say this. Mr. DELLENBACK. We have tea restle with it. Mr. Wir,sox. Yes. But the buck has to stop someplace. Mr. DELLIOMACK. Which place? Mr. WiLsor. The international organization in sports, which we do not. govern. They pass the buck to the national sports' governing body. 170

Me. DELLNNILWK. Well, I am not sure, you see, and I won't beat it any harder, whether you approve of 54323 or not I Nfr. WILSON. I do. Mr. 1M,LENanoic. Then you do not believe that any power out here should have power to say to the athlete, "Because you participated in an event we didn't approve, you can't now do certain other things." Mr. Wifsoif. I will repeat my response to that question. They pres. (ab do have now. I do not agree, however, with actions that have been taken in the past that do penalize at least for having partici- pated in competition not sanctioned, so longas the athletes conduct themselves in a proper manner. Someone must have responsibility whether it is a national governing body, other organization: or insti- tution to protect tf a interests of athletes, If that responsibility is vio lated in favor of a power structure, we can say that the provisions of the billareall right, and we turn ;his over then to a court. Mr. DELLENDACK. Thank you very much. We appreciate your testi- mony, I have taken longer than I should have, Mr. Chairman. Mr. 0'11Am. Mr, Peyser, Mr. PEYSIII, Thank you, Mr, Chairman, Mr. Wilson, we are delighted to have you hero. Even though you don't see eye-to-eye with what I propose in t624, I think your testi- mony is important to us. I do want to review a couple of points. I think one of the things that I guess disturbs me, and I in no way meanto pick on your organization, or any of the other athletic orga- nizations, including the NC:1A and AAU, but if the best interests of the athletes were truly at heart over all of these years, by all of these organizations why, when year after year these organizations have violated the athlete's rights, why have I not heard any of the other organizations crying out against, them in support of the athletes? When we have seen a situation such as we have just seen, and there has been through the last 20 years one incident after another, but when we have seen one just 2 weeks' ago with 30 Olympic competitors being kept out of an international track meet, I must say I do not hear the voices of any of these organizations, yours included, raised in protest, for the at liletes. Now you MAP one other statement that disturbed me a little. be- cause you said that. isirticularly in international athletics, that athletes may stray from the straight and narrow and be subject to temptation and, therefore, we need this body with the control of sanction. I would like to suggest that some of the associations can also stray from the straight. and narrow and also need the benefit of somebody else. Mr, Wit.sox, Certainly. Mr, Pm-scit. 1 know on have had experience in these areas and and Sure that you know' this is nothing. Occasionally the athlete gets into aroldeln, kit there are people in some of the associations that have nn occasion been involved in problems. ILK 58.24 is concerned only with the area of intermit ional competition, The Commission would remove any of the problems of who mom- pcted internationally for the United States, bemuse, in effect, it takes away the right, of the two major organizations, the AM? and the NrA A of saying "Th. k 1.1igiblp" or "Ile is not," and "I don't want his to compete, and if he competes we will take the school's television money away." 177

'the Commission would resolve the dispute before themeet took place, not afterward, not whilewe are waiting to see if someone can go into court for an injunction or not, such as just happened in the Richmond meet. It is only for thisreason I have taken this approach. In our own House here, for instance, several Olympic competitors, Congressmen Mathias and Metcalfe, solidly back the Commission. Glenn Cunningham, here in Washing;n last week very solidly backed establishment of this. All of them have faced the problem of this feud. I do not think thatany organization has a sanctioning right to really impose meaningful penaltieson athletes and schools. I don't think there should beany bouncing back and forth on that. I think it is dead wrong. I think they have to assert their influenceand con- trols that they have, but to havean authority which is dictatorial, where there is no appeal except to them, I think that iswrong. Do yon share that view? Mr. Wu.soN. I share that view. I made a statement which I have read, which pertains tomy concern about this same thing. I think thatany legislation that may be devel- oped nmst take into consideration the broadscope of all organizations, and not especially be directed at the point at hand of the few athletes that. did not make the Mission meet, whichwas deplorable, but needs to affect. all organizations. I recommend a new section in 5628 topre- vent actions against organizations, institutions, or individuals when they deter athletes from competing. Mr. Pxvsvm. Are you talking about amateur, domesticas well as international ? Mr. Wn.sort. I am talking about the international scope, because this is what the bill pertains to. Mr. PnvsEtt. That is what we are talking about as well, that the only input we would have at any time,as far as 5624 is concerned, the idea is purely one of international matters. Mr. Wir.sox. Yes. Mr. Dellenback, if I may respond further toyour questioning, be- cause it bothers me a bit. 'rite part that I have just referred to states my belief that allor- ganizations must follow the same rules of being prevented front taking action against organizations and individualsin these cases. If any or- ganization does take some action against no athleteor an institution. then they are subject to court action, and this is where,as we were talking a while sign, may he where the "buck" stops. That when action is taken against the best interest of athletes,or institutions, as the ease may be, then we must answer for it. Rut I wanted to make clear that my statement I made here is what I believe, and we sheald give these freedoms. Mr. llmvsiat. Well then, as I mulerstand it, you are opposeto the right of sanction. You oppose the authority to confer any penalties in enimpetion with sanctioning being put on by any governing athletic body; is that correct ? This is very bask. You either are opposed to the individual athletic organization liming the right of inflicting penalties or youare in summit of it ? Mr. Witmost. T think the bill as reennitnended here would take eare of that situation. 178 Mr. PEVSER. Well, would you say that 5624 would not take care of that situation? Mr. Wmaint. 'Under its present composition I do nob believe it would. Mr. PRYOR. Maybe it is a question of understanding here; 5624 establishes a commission. Mr. MIAOW. Yes. M. PEYSER. Which will have the right of governing exactly that question of international competition. So why won't that take care of it without going to court? That is the power that the commission has, 'Jcst what you are saying. So I don't understand why it would not do the thing. Mr, lt'xi soy. I think when we ,et Government control into this sort of section, then we are going in the wrong direction in this country. Mr. I )rxste.n. But don't you have Government control in either one of these bills? Mr. WasoN. You already have in the other bill a definite established pmcedure. Mr. llp.vsra. Do you mean you woniti prefer, or you would think that you would prefer, so I understand this, you would prefer going to a dust riot court for a decision on an athletic question ? M. Wit.AOX. Yes: on violation of rights. r. PEY8FIR. You would rather go to a district court? Mr. MINN. On A1010101 of rights, yes. Mr. Puysra. But. it would be after the fact. In other words, you mild only go after it. had been violated? Mr. WILSON. Yes, Mr. Myna. But the idea of the commission is that it would he before, it. would not be after. In other words, the commission would have authority to say, that everyone can do exactly as they have been doing, lest in international competition there will be nobody outside of t he ompetition who can say he can or cannot, compete. Sow. my thought was, as a sportsman and one who is really inter- ested in seeing the athlete get the break, that to have to have a man go to court to fight. the case, and incidentally a lot. of schools will not go to court, they won't take a chance on going to courtthis is grossly un- fairwon't go to the expense of going to court. So what you do is end up by protecting the athletic body who has the right of sanction- iv, and money and wherewithal to do it. Then where does the athlete come in I That is what I don't under- stand. I am trying to protect the athlete. I think we are both inter- ested in the same thing. Mr. AVnisort. I think we are, yes. Mr. INYEIVII. And I am not questioning your picture here, but T am just. saying I think perhaps it is maybe a lack of understanding within the scope of the bill as to what we are trying to do. I don't. want the Government in athletics either. Mr. Wilson, T thank you very much for voiir participation this morning and your statement, and thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. OITAnA. Thank yon, Mr. Wilson. Mr. O'ITa.A. Our final witness is Dr. James L. Cmiliman._president of a State college in West. Virginia. His is West Liberty State a school with an enrollment of over 3,500 students. It is very 179 much like other State colleges across the Nation in many respects but it is different in one that interests us this looming. West Liberty State College and the National Collegiate Athletic Association, had some difference some time ago, and West Liberty withdir its NCAA membership. Dr. Chapman is here today to tell us about the dispute, why his school withdrew fix m the national organization, and what the effects of that withdrawal have been. I might say, Mr. Chapman, we welcome you particularly because of your background in Michigan, and the fact that von are a graduate of both of our major and great State universities. We would like very much to hear from you. Dr. CHAPMAN. Two of the few very great universities in the Nation, Mr. Chairman. I can say at this point I cm sympathize with our varsity athletes, because I have been on the bench for over three-quarters of the game now, so I understand perfectly well what they gothrough. STATEMENT OF JAMES L CHAPMAN, PRESIDENT, WEST LIBERTY STATE COLLEGE Dr, CHAPMAN. T express my deep gratitude to you and members of the committee for the personal invitation which was extended to me to appear before you as you consider the various issues surrounding the continuing feud between the National Collegiate Athletic Associa- tion (NCAA) and the Amateur Athletic Union ( AAU). My testimony will concern itself with the following issues on the subject before the committee: I will relate two incidents which occurred in the summer and fall of 1970, in the area of intercollegiate athletics which resulted in my mak- ing a decision to withdraw the institutional membership held by West Liberty State College in the NCAA. As a result of these incidents, I feel it will he seen that the NCA A can be interpreted to bevery nrbitary body which has become ala w unto itself with respect to the control of most of intercollegiate athle- tics in our Nation. It is important to establish at the outset that. I do not represent. that part of the academie community which depreciates orcastigates the role of intercollegiate athletics on the college minims. I feel that from my student days as n. varsity athlete in track, cross-country,and basket- ball, when I had the honor of winning State championships in both the mile and cross-country runs in high school and college while pursuing may formal education in the State of Michigan, to the present,that have an appreciation for the significant role of varsity athletics in education. As a demonstraton of my continued and present interest in varsity athletics, I serve as the treasurer of the West Virginia Inter- collegiate Athletic Conference and, on a more personal basis, take great deal of pride in the varsity competition which occurs in10 sports on our campus. I shall now turn to the two incidents of encounter with the NCAA which resulted in the withdrawal of our institutional membership. I was informed by correspondence from Mr. Warren S. 13rown. sec- retary, NCAA Committee on Infractions, on January 22, 1971. that I should present to his committee evidence surrounding two alleged r 1 ) 180 violations which had occurred In the area of athletics at West Liberty State College, The first alleged violation pertained to the matter of our varsity football Wain participating in a NCAA uncertified postseason foot- LH game with Wofford College on November 26, 1070. Itcan be stated that we (lid in fact participate in such a game on the date indicated. It was a game certified. however, by the National Association of Inter- collegiate Athletics (NAIA), in which organization we held andcon- tinue to hold institutional membership, the end result being that we held institutional membership in both the NCAA and the NAIA at that time. The contest. we played in against Wofford Collegewas the semifinal eastern ehamionship game which would have resulted in our partieipating for the NAIA national championship had we been fortunate enough to be victorious in the game with Wolford College. The remain the NCAA indicated there was a violation on our part is that the NCAA does not permit its member institutions to partici- ade in any bowl game other than those sanctioned by their organiza- tion. I can readily understand why the NCAA wants to prevent bowl games from muslirooming across the Nation when these are sponsored by entrepreaenring individuals or profitmaking organizations. The fact is t.lu NAIA is an organization with similar goals and objectives us those held by the NC A A. bet it was imliented to me that: the NCAA had such a rule prior to the NAM starting national championship playoff and it was inferred the ride would nod must be upheld. An important. thing to remember in this is that the NCAA for many years was coneemd with those institutions which had extremely large athletic budgets and programs, and it could not concede the point that it should coopenite with the NAIA, which has concerned itself in most reApects with the plight of the smaller athletic programs of higher education in one Nation. The final comment. I want. to make on this particular incident is the irony behind all of tl 's when, in fact, West Liberty State College was contacted by Mr. Ernest Casale. of Temple University, who indicated to our direetor of athletics on or about November 16, 1070, that we were being cons lered for a berth in the NCAA-sponsored Knute llockne Football Bowl Game in Atlantic City, NA Mr. Casale wanted to know if we were interested in participating, and an affirmative answer was given. An indicnt.ion was conveyed by Mr. Castile that we would hear from him later, but we have never heard from him or from env person representing the NCAA, Had we been extended an offer to phiy in a NCAA-sponsored event and turned it down to play ina NA TA- sponsored contest, sonic action by the NCAA would seem ap- propriate. Such was not our situation. Sir. Chairman. I submit to you that, except for the good judgment of our football coaching staff in the late fall of MO. our football team could still be practicing for a possible bowl invitation had we waited for a final response from the NCAA, The point can be interpreted its being a bit ludicrous. but I do not feel such is the ease when a member institution bins an inquiry placed before it in a matter this important and nothing is received from the parent body which gives a final response. t turn now to the second incident and the one to which I feel the efforts of this cominittee should be primarily directed. 181

I was informed in the same hitter referred to earlier, dated Janu- ary'??, 1971, from Mr. Brown, that an alleged infraction of NCAA policy had occurredon our part in awarding a work-study grant funded front Federal resources which occurred when a student attending college located in close proximity to West Liberty State College trans- ferred from the other college to our campus. It should be kept in mind that each college concerned held membership in the N('AA at that time. The student who transferred to our campus received avar- sity letter in tennis during his freslunan year at the other college. At . the completion of his freshman year attire'former institution he de- tided that for personal financial reasons he desinid to attend West Liberty duc to the fact, of his king an in-State student and theex- t Nuttily low tuition which we charge as a State college when t ompared to the private college he was attending. The student was not recruited by our tenniscoachbutcameto our campus during the summer of 19-10 between his freshman and soph- omore years. prior to entering West Liberty in the fall, and asked I:itestions from our tennis coachas to whether he would be eligible for some type of financial aid. The tennis coach indicatedto him that an athletic grant could not be given to him but that he would be eligi- ble, just. as as ny other student, for assistance under programs supported by the Federal flovernmentthat is, EOG, work-study, NDSI,---pro- % idea he had a demonstrated Rnanrial 11Ped. 1k subsequently made ap- plication to the director of thiamin! aid for a federally funded assist- , Mb :nice grant and was awarded $700 in the form of work-study job dim the fact that he had a demonstrated financial need in the amount. of 95, as confirmed by his ACT family financial statement. I was in- formed by the NCAA that this particular case had been reported and that the national Ace of the N('AA desired the facts pertaining to the ease shop it appeared we were in violation of NCAA policy, which muls as follows from an official NCAA interpretation bylaw I,sec- tion 7: If a known student athlete proposes to transfer from a 4-year collegiate in. QtitntIon to another 4-year institution holdingCAA membership. and the first intItation declines to give the permission required by section 7. the second intitation may not encourage the transfer and may not offer or provide ammeiot 0...ktance to the student athlete. if the student athlete proceeds to transfer to the .4peond Institution. and the speeitied permission is not forthcoming, the second intitmion may not provide the transferee financial aid until he has attended the institution I academic year. The important point for the members of this committee. Mr. Choi?. man. to keep in nittul. is that although this student, CAMP to our campus with a demonstrated financial need. we placed our institutionalmem- liership in jeopardy before the NCAA by providing federr!ly funded financial t ssistance to him due to the fart that he had won a varsity 6 letter at another NPAA school. I feel that a policy of this type is not only as it relates to the control which the NCAA holds over its member institutions. but is equally unethical when an institution of higher education is committed to serve the educational needs of the youth of our Nation. Neither in correspondence nor in a telephone call which I had with executives of the NCAA was it ever brought to any attention that we could ask for an exemption to the policy stated above, as contained in the NCAA's bylaw T. section 7. Not until such time as I started pursuing this matter with our West Virginia con- 182 gressional representatives in Washington did Mr. Walter Byers,exe- cutive director of the NUAA, indicate thatwe could ask for an exemp- tion from the policy stated. I feel that whether a student. is recruitedor not from another in- stitution. I have a legal responsibility to insure that each studententer- ing our institution has federally funded student-assistanceprograms made available to him, provided'he qualifies. Mr. Chairman, in conclusion I would like to quote froma letter which I sent to Congressman Robert IL Mollohan, who represents the First District of West Virginia in the U.S. House of Representatives, dated November 9, 1971, which I feel could insome measure be inter- preted to be prophetic in the light of this committee's work: The more I become Involved in the matter I have raised with you with respect to the policy of the NCAA on the transfer of student-athletes, the greater my feeling that the NCAA hats become a law unto Itself, and now an accounting should be forthcoming from this national organization. The fact that they have a no intention of changing their policy with respect to the transfer of student- athletes as it relates to the awarding of any financial aid, including Federal funds, Is indepd disconcerting. Those of us in higher-education administration during the past 6 years have been made acutely aware of inconsistent policies which we had in the academic community and which have been changed in rather dramatic ways. I am simply attempting to apply some pressure on the NCAA so that it will change out of a sense of fairness and for humanistic reasons, rather that waiting for pressures to build up against it which could result in a weaken- ing of many of this fine organization's programs. I feel the executives of the NCAA have acted in an arbitrary manner and wield entirely too much power over the heads of their member in- stitutions. One person has said that an idea will createan institution, but the institu' to.will in turn kill the idea. I firmly believe that the idea and ideals of intercollegiate athletics as exemplified by Alonzo Stagg of Ch.,:ago, Fielding IL Yost of Michigan, Knute Roche of Notre Dit.ne, are very ennobling. I tentthat the work of this committee will result in the idea of amateur and intercollegiate athletics being revitalized and the capri- cious nature of the NCAA being revamped. I express to you my sincere appreciation for the moments you have even to hear my testimony. Mr. 01-Lutn. Thank you very much, Dr. Chapman. Let me con- gratulate you on your perception. In the case of the tennis player who transferred, I agree with you definitely, you would have been in vio- lation of Federal law and regulations if you had denied financial as- sistnnee to a transferring student on the ground that he wasa tennis player. It seems to me that if he otherwise qualified, youare absolutely correct. He is entitled to equal consideration for that assistance along with every other student involved. I think there would have been defi- nite violation of our laws and regulations if you refused to give him consideration. a I can't understand a regulation that would punish you for having followed the law. Dr. (111AMIAN. This was the bind in whirl' I found myself. I tried to pursue this through every avenue possible, one being to raise a ques- tion with our congressional representatives as to why the NCAA through a very noble effort in its national youth summer program, should he federally funded when in fact they had, whether by design or not, had a policy that did in fact prohibit us from awarding Federal funds to deserving students as well.

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Willie the XCA A ean be given great credit for the nationalsummer youth program, I am not going to give them thesame credit when it comes to the fact they have policies that they have promulgated that prohibit me in the capacity in which I find myself of not upholding laws which I feel Congress has made for us to assist worthy students, Mr. OM mA. I agree completely with your analysis of the situation. Mr. Peyser, any questions? Mr. PHYSER. Briefly, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chapman, I too appreciate your testimony. I think it isvery worthwhile. I am glad you mentioned the NCAA nationalsummer youth program because I think it isan excellent program and one I per- fectly am for. So it is not as though the NCAA, whilewe paint it a little black here, because in theseareas I think it is in the wrong with- out any question, but they also do a great deal of good. As do all of these organizations. It is justa question of the power, so to speak. Just as a comment, I notice yon indicate inyour opening you are representing the academic community, which appreciates the role of intercollegiate athletes. I am a trustee of Colgate, and I know weare very interested in nth- htes. and the proper treatment of all th3 programing. Iam delighted yon also feel that way. I appreciate the testimony you have givenus this morning. Dr. Cumnitmq. I think my answer is basically what I attempted tosay in the prepared paper that has been delivered. I think there isnow accountability that should come to the NCAA. While I have hadno experience with the AATT, my feeling is, and that of others I have talked to, there is also a great deal of capriciousness occurring in that organization's administrative structure. What I think has occurred is that executives of these organizations have built positions of power rather than positions of trust. T think that now is the time for them tocome to a point of accountability for the position of trust. I certainly will be one of the first to say that I will be viewing the NCAA finals tonight. and I appreciate what the organization has done in many ways. but I think accountability should beupon this organi- zation. Mr. PEYSTM. I agree with von, butare you suggesting in any way there should be a broader Federal legislation getting into the domestic athletic area? Are you suggesting we should be looking at that? Dr. CIMMAN. I think that if the NCAA and the AATT cannot settle their problems, and they are the two most powerful organizationsat this point, then I think it would be incumbentupon Members of Con- gress to look at this problem also cind not let this one continue to be a festering sore and impose conflicts upon us. I think it would be incumbent upon you to look in that direction, Mr. NYM111. Thank von. Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you. This concludes the meeting of the subcommittee for today. We will meet, tomorrow in this room at 10 a.m. rWherenpon, at 12 AS p.m., the bearing was recessed, toreconvene at 1(1.11). the following day, Tuesday, March 27,,10711.1

1Rn PROTECTION OF COLLEGE ATHLETES

TUESDAY, MAROS 27, 1973

HOME OP REPRESENVATIVP.B9 SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON EDUCATION OP THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 9 :30 a.m., pursuant to call, in room 2261, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. James G. O'Hara (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives O'Hara. Dellenback, Lehman, and Peyser. Staff members: A. C. Franklin, counsel, and Elnora Teets, clerk. Mr. O'HATtA. The Special Subcommittee on -1!Iducation of the I louse Committee on Education and Labor will come to order. Th is morning we are resuming hearings on lilt. 5823, a bill to amend the Higher Education Act of 1905 to protect the freedom of student athletes and their coaches to participate as representatives of the United States in amateur international athletic events, and identical bills cosponsored by 35 of our colleagues, and on H.R. 5624, a bill to protect collegiate and other amateur athletes. Our first witnesses today are Mr. T. R. Milner, and Mr. Christopher Dunn. I think I ought to give Mr. Peyser, who is a member of the Committee on Education and Labor, the opportunity to introduce our witnesses. Mr. PEYSER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to suggest that both Mr. Milner and Mr. Dunn take their seats up hero at this time. I am delighted to welcome them to the committee. Mr. Milner is the track coach at Colgate University, and had been in previous years, in his undergraduate days, an active participant in the track field. Chris Dunn, who is presently a senior at Colgate University, and an Olympic competitor, is a holder of the indoor national collegiate high-jump record, and IC4A indoor and outdoor high-jump words, NO has had experience this year and over the past several years, and 1 think will be of great interest to the committee. So we are both anxious to hear from both of you gentlemen. Mr. OlLutit. You can proceed, gentlemen, in whatever way you wish. Each of you has a statement, that is fine. If you want to read it that is all right. If you want to submit it for the record and speak extemporaneously, that is all right. Mr. DyNx. We each have a statement and we can answer questions if necessary. Mr. 0,1Inan. That will be fine. Will you be first, Mr. Dunn Mr. bus N. Yes. (185) 1 0 186

STATEMENT OP CHRISTOPHER DUNN, STUDENATRLETE, COLGATE UNIVERSITY, HAMILTON, N.Y. Mr. Du Nw. I have been competing as an amateur high jumper since 1967, when I was a sophomore in high school. My jumping improved at a stoutly rate until loitered my first national elnunpionshi in 1971. The following year I tied for third place in the 1972 national AAU indoor track championships, and as a result I was selected to com- pete in t he 1972 iTnited States Versus Soviet Union indoor track meet. This international competition took place in Richmon:., Va., a year ago. I was, of course, a college student when I competed in this meet last year, as were several other of the participating athletes. No action was taken against the collegians who competed in this meet last year. Later on last vear, I earned a spot on the 1972 U.S. Olympic track team and competed in Munich last September. This year, I again competed in the 1973 national AAU indoor track championships on February 23 in New York City. Again, as a result of my performance in this meet, I was selected by the AAU to compete once again in Richmond. against the Soviet Union. However, anticipating tlw arising of difficulties. Colgate University's athletic and sports information directors contacted officials of the NCAA by telephone approximately 4 weeks ago. They were told the following: (1) That. the NCA A had not granted a sanction for this particular international competition ;(2) that the AA IT had not requested sanction for this meet; (3) that all the AAU had to do was to request thissatetion and it would almost certainly he granted; (4) that if I were to compete at Richmond against the Russians, Colgate would, ac- confin'r to the NCAA bylaws. be forced to penalize me by removing my college eligibility for all remaining NCAA competitions; and (5) that if Colgate did not take such action to penalize me, then Colgate would be in violation of the NCAA bylaws and subject to disciplAry action. It is possible that this action could entail a probationary period in which case all of its athletes would be ineligible for NCAA cham- pionship competition. In spite of Congressman Peyser's constant efforts duringthe week prior to the meet, this conflict was not resolved, and I chose not to compete at Richmond. Although I have complied with NCAA regula- tions and did not compete in this AAU- sponsored international compe- tition. T do not wish my action to be interpreted as my taking sides with the NCAA. What determined my course of action was the potential loss of several opportunities to compete in college competitions during the course of the remainder of my career. I am not an expert on the history of the feud between these two organizations, nor am lowledgeable about the present administrative policies of either orga- nization. I am an athlete, primarily conct ned with pursuing the perfection of my high jumping skills. I w'inted the opportunity to compete because I am dedicated to improving myself in this fleld. This opportunity was taken away from me for reasons of a complex nature, which I do not thoroughly understand. It is my hope that improvements will be made in the administration of amateur athletics so that incidents of this type will not adversely affectmyself or others in the future.

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STATEMENT OF T. R. MILNER, TRACK COACH, COLGATE UNIVERSITY, HAMILTON, N.Y. -fr. 1Iii.xza. The NCAA is an organization of institutions. Repre- sentatives of these institutions comprise the exeentive branch and the various committees charged with establishing policy, rules, regula- tions. et cetera, whirl' are applieable to the various areas of concern. TheM'A A was developed by eiliwational institutions for the benefit of collegiate athletic programs. Representatives of these institutions have the right to vote, to submit amendments to existing constitution and bylaws, to institute change, and to debate the issues as they are presented. For a variety of reasons, the sanctioning or certification process is it necessary one. On various occasions, situations arise which are not in the best interests of the collegiate athletes involved or of the institu- tion they present. It is impossible for nu institution to maintain the necessary machinery for investigating the desirability or the viability of athletic events. the consequence of this lark of capability is the NCA A certification process desiped to advise the institution regard- ing conditions of various non-NCA A. sponsored activities. The NCAA has no authority to pennlize an individual athlete. Any action which affects an athlete's eligibility is the responsibility of the institution. Should the institution disagree with the findings oi the appropriate NCA A committee, it may aet. accordingly. However, in such eases. the consequences are quite clen. The X('AA is very desirable and necessary in its relation to collegi- ate athletic programs. Likewise, the AAI.1 serves a significant and neeessury function iii the promotion of amateur athletics in the United States awl abroad. The issue, ns I understand it, is not what body con- trols international competition. The issue is merely it procedural one which requires that. the 'CAA approve a meet. as being one in which competit ion by an athlete representing a member institution is accept- able. Perhaps there are more eomplex and critical concerns. I doubt that this is the ease. My understanding is the only requirement for sanction in the recent meet with the Soviet Union Wag that it he requested. Colgate University as well as other educational institntions must retain institutional emit no) of the students and the programs in which they filly, part. Any legislation which infringes upon such institution- al control would be totally unacceptable to the collegiate community. Colivite rniversitv is committed to the XCAA. We are an active member that sitbserifies to the pin:..iples and policies of that organiza- tion. Colgate University has, however, an overriding commitment to Chris Ininn and other students within the athletic program. This ie our primary eonlern. The fact that Chris Dunn chose not to compete against the Soviet Union was his intiivideal choice. Colgate's position wrs a delicate one, torn between two cominitments. Chi is was advised of the applica- ble regulations of the NCAA. The NCAA was contacted regarding requirements for sanction and stated flint such sanction would cer- tainly be forthcoming if requested. The AAU was then contacted and on effort made to persuade that office to request such sanction. The 0-7211- 7 I-13 I fr.' 464

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Not that I know of. Mr. O'HARA. The press report seemed to indicate that the proceeds of the television of the game of the week, the football game or the week, wits somehow distributed or apportioned, or at least was dis- tributed among member institutions, and that Colgate would lose its share of those proceeds. Is there anything tot hat ? Mr. MILNER. I ilut not really familiar with that arrangement. I don't know. lean't answer that question. Mr. 01 Ltn.t. here we had a situation where the meet had not been sanctioned by the N('AA, and I am sure that that is something your %V0111(1 have wanted to know. You, Chris 1)non, and your conch both would have wanted to know. but that would not have, that is, apart front these threatened penalties, the fact that the meet was not Salle. timed by the N('AA would not. have kept you from participating, would it I Mr.1)txx. Not apart trout the penalties. Mr. 011.w. 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'l'it'reins 110 ingestion% 111 illy mind hit what they are engazed ill is entitmere. I think really the le!iislation we are working olt, if you hadn't justified it as constitutional, would be justified under the power of Congress to regulate eommeree between the States. It. seems to MP if they are engaged in commerce and Congress has power to regulate commee Iwtween the States, that Congress hits the constitutional power to pre- scribe certain vitys and metluids that shall be aceeptable and others that stud1 not he aeptuble. I wish to assert for the record that I don't think there is any on- stitutional question ilbotit our ability to do this. but I think there is a question, as you suggest, about what the effect would Ile of certain section that we might take. what effect it would have on affiliation of the tuitional group with the intonational group. I think that is it problem. Mr. Ihs.irc.i. To hack up a minute on your proposition that Volt just stated about the international and the mmiterce question. I think that you would have to understand the evolution of the NCAA and ECAC. and such groups, which was really made necessary by the quasi- professional attitude that some institutions had. There was a time when there were few eligibility regulations, recruiting regulations and so forth, and many schools might have It 100,00n-seat football stadium and want to tillit up and they had an investment in this thing and were going at it frankly just like a business, and t ion certainly became necessary. Now, there are various levels of that neeessity. For example. you might have an Ivy League set of rules which would be !math more stringent than another conference because their iteademie Situation is different than the other eonference, so schools generally sought out the level of regulation which fit their total picture. 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I would think, frankly, you would find that schools would not he willing to play with those and schedule games with that type of situation, and we have seen it in amateur athletics where a team suddenly moved and I have it perfect example of it. We were talking about ('olgate this morning. Syracuse which was a tradi- tional rival of ('olgate, one of the oldest rivalries in the State of New York, it number of years bark upgraded its whole football team to such a point Colgate could no longer compete, so they stopped corn pet ing. Mr. DISACCA. Or another choice, and this is the one you missed, if a school brings in nine professional players, you have two choices: on't compete, or go get nine better professional players and then what happens You need regtJations. Mr. Pv.vsmn. Well, we are not concerned here with regulations. I don't think anybody is saying we don't need regulations, but, in my opinion. the one statement you made that I couldn't disagree more with is that you said NCAA and AAU desire to have everybody play. have been working for hours in the last couple of weeks in direct conversation with the heads of both of these organizations and they didn't have the slightest desire to have the athletes want to play. I think that we have seen, and you know probably better than I Itemise you have been in it much longer, the years and years of his- tory of the attempts to try to bring these two major organizations to just talk to mill other. It is not like they were foreign powers. I mean they arc both tight here. They won't give an inch. Now, when it readies this point and the American people are in- volved, and the American athletes and, as you mentioned, the power of international competition, and tie are subject to this type of arbi- trary unwillingness to yield, then 1 think it is time we legislate. t' have tried time and time again, and all of the things of "Let's take it now," and "We are now interested," that as of a week ago neither one of these organizations, AAU or NCAA, were willing to give an inch. When one did begin to give an inch, which was AAU, who said they would apply, then NCAA said, "Now we also want .ou to apply to USTFP, which was the very lust thing they threw 202

in. At that point the A Ali said: "The hell withit. We are not going to go any further." So I am not convinced at all they have it sinceredesire for the athletes. fr. lits.weA. I could not agree with you more,and all I can say in conclusion probably, and I had a diagram here, but I think time is so limited, but perhaps I can, do it another time,but I think the very obvious need is for some thirdbody to take the final word out of the hands of the contending forces. There is noquestion about it. When you have a wrestling match you don't call onthe two wrestlers to make the rules up as they Igo along. One says, "I want to bite," and the other says, "I want to use it club," and soforth. You have to get some rules established by some overridingauthority. 1 think the method of doing that is wherein the difficultylies. I would be glad to be of assistance on that any time. Mr. Ilmsr.u. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'I 1411tA. Mr. Ihsacca, you made an interestingsuggestion. and I want you to know we appreciate that, the idea of reArteting the use of the term -Notional Team" in whatever sport. andthen Imposing conditions on the granting of such use of that. term. That is a very interesting idea. Thank you very much. Mr. BISACCA. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. OThita. Our last witness today is Mr. I larohl %human. of Lynn, Mass.. vice president of the 17.S. CommitteeSports forIsrael. an organization of 4.000 individuaIs. groups, and foundations interested in encouraging a program of participation by Jewish youth in sports, physical fitness, and physical education programs. 'This is the group that sponsors the I T.S. team for the Mneeubinla Mr. %imam was the editor of the periodical "Amateur Athlete" for some 13 years. hie lens attended all of the summer andwinter Olympic Games since 194s. lie speaks to us this morning from awea'th of knowledge and experience regarding international amateur athletic competition. 14.41111M M. we would be pleased to hear yon. Mr. Pp.rsEn. Mu. Chairman, may I interrupt for n moment, please? Mr. OMAHA. 'Yes. Mr. PRYSER. Mr. Zi0010111 I mu unfortunately in a sitnation. as I indicated before when I had a champ to chat briefly with you. I have to leave, and vet I think. Mr. %human. I would want to have your test imony, so, Air. ('hairman. will it present a problem ? Mr. 01-httA. No, Mr. 1A111101111 is here. Mr. l'Hysza. Yes. Mr. Lehman is here. I do want you to know I regret. having to leave. As a matter of fact, I am on the way down.to he Soviet Kmbassy on the question of the Soviet. Jews. I have a meeting seheduled at 11:30. so it happens to be relatedill SOW Wily. bat I !MVO to leave and want to apologize to you and the chairman and Mr. Lehman for having to 'my(' at this time. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you, Mr. Peyser we a !predated vour pnrtiei- plltiOtl, and the tmerit)! of lfe. %human's test Manly available. Mr. 1bErsza. Thank you.

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When they were set np in the I 'lilted SI:ttos the athletes were put out in former barracks of Army Posts. The rest of the erowd stayed m the Ifolidny Inn or better facili- ties. It kind of makes von wonder how deep this really goes. Mr. PEYSElt. Well, 111iS is true. In the !ent meet sit New York at Madismi Square (Laden, we had the athletes housed in it hotel on, I think it was, 38th Street and Sth Avenue. A hotel in the process of closing down. The reason given was they you'd obtain the rooms very cheaply at that point, So I think there are a lot of real questions involved here. I think these hearings, turd I am very pleased the chairman has moved ahead wait them, are going to serve a valuable purpose regardless of which way our legislation here goes just by posing some of these questions to the public. Hopefully they will force the NCAA and AAU to do some. thing positive. which I don't think they have done for the good of the athletes, so 1 110 welemne your test i Senator Court. I would like to read one thing from Steven Prefon- t remarks in this newspaper. He said, American athletes have to pay their own way to olympl trials and I have seen them standing around eating hot dogs for a wick just so they timid emu- Pete to go and represent the most powertui country in the world. The IOC, says we emit. do this and can't have this control. I think it is rather ridiettlons to try to convince the young individual in the United States, the young people in this room, that somehow or other contributions are sought front the people in Ilussia to support the Olympic team or in any other totalitarian country throughout the world which brings its teams to the Olympics and competes against our teams, and the facilities that they have, and the facilities that we have, are rather stark by comparison. I can't quite figure out in my own mind who they are really trying to kid, kettuse I think we all understand it, I think we all understood that a professional basketball team played against live gentlemen from the United States who were still in college, and still competing. I don't think there is any question about it. Mr. INvsca. I, think that is very true. We had a gentleman from the ECAC yesterillty testifying here and saying that, the international organization *ould not deal with us unless we were kept in a purely private and OA of governmental control situation, I couldn't under- stand what lkif was talking about when the international organization certainly tlMs with the Mission teams, and many other teams. Senator Clam. There were a lot of totalitarian countries that should not have had their teams at the Olympics if that were the case. Mr. Puna. Thank you, and thank von, Mr. Chairman. Senator Cook. Thank yon. Mr. Chtiirman. Mr. O'HARA. Our next witness is a gentleman who has experience both as an Olympic athlete and as it Member of the House of Wpm. sentatives. Ile is a Member of the !louse from California, the Honor- 217 able liobllathins, a former Olympic decathlon champion, gold medal winner. Mr. Mathias, we will be very happy to hear from you, STATEMENT OP HON. BOB MATHIAS, REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OP CALIFORNIA Mr. M.vrims. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 1 am happy to be here today, of course, to support the Peyser bill, 11.11. :.1'02-1-. t might also add I am a cosponsor of the O'llara-Dellen- back bill, and in Inv short statement today I would imagine I would he speaking for both bills. The subject matter in the bill, namely amateur athletes, is very Clear to my heart. I've had the opportunity to be involved actively in amateur athletics for some 10 years and five of those years, in world compet The amateur athletes of this country and in the world are the most dedicated, hard-working group involved in all sports. Theyare not motivated by financial returns but by the simple fact that they love eom pet it ion. For many years, amateur athletes have been under the jurisdiction of groups tbat recently have lwen less than thoughtful about the well- being of these young men and women. This is not to say, however, that these %.arions athleticgroupshave not helped the athletes in the past.Theyhave helped. They have hall the well-being of the athletes at heart. However, the recent episode of the forbidding of our athlete:; front competing against the Russians in an international meeting isan act that. is not justifiable in any way. It is not in the best interest of the athletes. It is not in the best interest of the schools these athletes are going to. It is not in the best interest of the United States, the eountry thew. athletesare represent- ing. It is, as far as I. can see, only for the selfish interest ofone of oat' at Idet lc organizations. If I were told, when I was actively competing in track. that I could not fulfill my dream of competing with the Hoskins. that my lung 'lours of working and training would be wasted, that I would be ileniNi the tight tit Viillippte by one group of people for their interests, I would hef11101114. I Woliiii think, Why train foryears for the moment tn eoni- pot% with the superstars from Russia orany other country only to have this Aimee dashed away by the whim ofone group of people. If 1 were just starting omit in track with the idea to work hard. give up many things. dedicate myself to sports. and hope to compete some- day in international eompetition. I would certainly think twice about starting nut on this venture knowing that somewhere therean'pnWPIII timid, would lint let me compete after all that hard work. The best solution to all of this is simply for the NCA Ato get on the hall and start thinking about the athletes. AA1*-NeAA feu,1 has been around for a long time and there has beenno solution. The other solution is the Pevser bill. I frankly wouldnot like to see the tiovernment get involved in sixes in ati way. lint, if the well- being of the athletes is not beieg sevred by theamateur athletic or- 218 ganizations. whoever t hey might be, then 1 believe legislation should be presented to do just this. I might add, Mr. Chairman, I do have a great interest in it. I am certainly glad to see the subeommittee is discussing this matter. It is a tough subject. It has been going on for years, but I think this last episode clearly shows that itis time that somebody has to think about it and get some legislation to dear up this matter. So I am delighted to be here. I will be glad to answer any questions you might have, Mr. O'HARA. Thank you very much, Mr. Mathias. I couldn't agree with you more. The subject certainly is a complex one, and many efforts have been made to try to solve it, as you know. The fight has been going on now, I guess, for about tiO years. I recall Gen. Douglas MacArthur was called in to try to mediate the dispute on one occasion many years ago, and on a somewhat later occasion, the then Vice President of the ITnited States, Senator Hubert Hum- phrey, was involved in it. A panel of mediators was appointed, includ- ing italph Metcalfe, who is now a colleague of ours, and including Ted Kited, a labor arbitrator from New York, and other people, and that effort failed. I do think we have a lot of problems, and they are very complex and difficult, bemuse of the situation where the international federation in each sport is the one who really operates the various international competitions, even I guess, at the Olympic games. 'For instance, the International Basketball Federation, to its discredit, ran the basket- ball portion of the Olympic games. We have to conduct ourselves in a way that won't get, us crosswise in this effort. So I think you for your contribution, and I agree with you that the matter is a complex one, and one that sorely needs examination by people who are not interested in the outcome, other than on behalf of the athletes and on behalf of the country. The trouble is there are too many others involved that have a personal stake in the outcome. Mr. Huber, any questions? Mr. IIrnEn. No questions. Mr. O'l ImiA. Mr. Ben ite/. ? Mr. BENrriv.. Yes, I would like to, first, indicate my complete ad- herence to the principles expressed in the 5623 bill. Mr. O'Hara's bill, and my reservation about the second bill, because of my hesitancy about seeing the Federal Governnent being involved in this particular type of education, and my hope is that it will not be necessary to go that far in order to reetify the evils which you have so clearly indicated in your testimony. Mr. MATisms. Well, as I said in my testimony, I hate to see the Gov- ernment get involved, but if there is no other solution then I believe we have to. Mr. BtxrrEz. Yes. Mr. MaTtims. I know Senator Conk, in his testimony before my testimony, mentioned the fact that other countries support their Olympic team. Maybe some day our Government will have to support our Olympic team, but right now I think we have the best system in the world, We support our team by public subscription. If the clay comes when nobody will give money for athletes, then perhaps the

;"1 art ts'$ 219 Government should get involved in supporting, our team. I think it is a valuable thing to have a team, the best Olympic team we can have. Mr. BEsiTita. I have no quarrel with that. The only question which you and I share doubt about is, "1Ias the time been reached where the Government will have to enter and by its own initiative assume responsibility 4" which hopefully could be discharged by privateMI- t intire us long as it is maintained and supervised within baste grounds. So this is the only question in which I am at present uncertain, and this is why 1 am very melt interested. Mr. O'ilma. If the gentleman will yield. The very idea of a Federal sports bureaucracy is enough to make your blood run cold. We have seen what they aecomplished in other fields, We are a little worried about what they might do to the athletics. Mr. Peyser. Mr. PEvsEn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to welcome my good friend, Congressman Mathias, here this morning. I think there is no one in the )louse that has a better back- ground and a more comprehensive understanding of the sports prob- lem, having been tt gold medal winner in the Olympics, and having come up through all of the thino that we are talking about. He still mointaius a very active interest in young people and in sports. I am very delighted to have him here and have his testimony. It goes without saving that the thought of it sports bureaucracy is something we are all opposed to. Hopefully, in the legislation that. I havebeen proposing, we tire not talking about it sport bureaucracy at all. I would certainly tight any attempt. to make it that way. But I would like to read to you, Congressman Mathias, a brief letter, and then have your moments as to what you feel about it. This letter to me is of the utmost importance. I have just received it, and 1 think it would be of the utmost importance to the hearing subject matter. It is a letter from Brooks C. Johnson, the roach who was put in charge of the U.S. team at the meet. in Richmond. I would like to read this letter, it. is not long and then if you would comment on it in any way you see fit, please. It says: Iwas a last minute replacement as conch for the United States Robust the '1.5.5.11. Molt and Heldtooth This wasnecessitated after the original empties were forced to leave due to pressure and possible sanetions from the NC.1A. was very happy to assist to this endeavor beenuse ofmyfeelings of respon. sibliity to mycountry:however, to have to step in under circumstances such as this was less than desirable. It is my opinion. without qualificntion and retterra. that the United Stotts would have won the meet had the !CAA personnel. athletes, nod coaches remained with the team. I think that this Isarather sigoideno4 nod Important situation for two reasons: First, the Russians came lucre expecting to compete against the best American from in terms of ability and the NOAA's action prevented this andcausedsome embarrassment both to the Missions and to the United States. Second.the overallmorale of the remaining athletes was irreparably damaged by tint onset, making the itossint4 nod Amerlean performance cheap in MIMIC respeets,I Who very much impressed with the pliant manner In which the remaining athletes performed and they did the very best job postale wider the eireametatwes.They are tohe mtottentninteti stud praised for the job they did. The very Ammefill asp eet of the whole thing is that their effortsona eolleetive anti team basis, orrather hatividuot anti teambasis went IIIvain,not because !law lost but beenowe they. as ti team did not have to lose. 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I mom oni 0.) pal in sm.., :Enup BEST COPYAVAILABLE 222 by the Russian nationalbasketball team hits The tour of the l'hiled Stoles Amateur Athletic Union and been sheduled fur April26 nod May 11 by the longer has tiny whereas the AMY as of Morel)31. 1973. 3 days from now, no lutermetional authority in the sportof basketball. and whereas thedates of the proposed tour MaresAmerican players tit a significanteompetitive disadvan- whereas those dates .111144 present severe11C11111,1111e tage 1/11111/g at that time. nudmight wish to partielpate, it is notjust he would problemsforany player who be required to miss some 4 weeksof ehtss time while practling111111 playing, and whereas the emanetniaa aaoarentiy wasarranged for television purposes and of the Itossiims, therefore, beit resolved that the National at the roneulence Edneatiott Assts. intim of Itasketball ('ouches urgesthat the Ilotwe Committee Ott and Labor nut to attempt anyeffort to force this tour tomAmerientt players. be rescheduled at It reasonabletime of the year but to urge the AAU that if further. that when Amer lea tint Held acompetitive. well-prepared team. and. it take steps to set' that itbody is formed to administer amateurbasketball lit this country refledive of thecontribution of various bodies uudorganizations aetIe in t he sport. That. cpletes theresolution. To clarify just alittle bit, there is a group, theAmateur liasketballAssociation of the United States, which. as of March 3 I, prepared, on an equitable basis, toassist and control basketball United States involving peoplewho have a national orinternational basketball program. OtliC11.1 have indicated heretoday, over We 11111 deeplyconeP111(111 legislating against the rules the possibility ofthe Federal (lover ment voluntary agency. The XCAAis made up of institu- of eligibility of a agreed upon rules. tions whose members makeand follow the mutually A student at leasthas the opportunity tobe a member of his institu- tion's team if he sochooses, but we feel that oncehe has made this choice that he has anobligation to complete the season as amember would be a start hugdevelopment for a young man of that squad. It This would be somewhat like to play on morethan one team sit a time. perhaps if members of yourtram in a politicalcampaign joined the other side a week and thencoming back to you. strive for exeellence in anorganized man- Each team of individuals think this is essential. I think ner for thecontinuity of the season. We pointed out that for the past7 or 8 years there has it has been clearly tour with the been little, if any, AAt7basketball. Last week while on a Guatemala visiting all aspectsof basketball in the national coach of we were in the Cali- United States.including the professional games, Francisco Chroniclearticle, "Interview With fornia area. and a San coach at the Presidio 110 Fisher", ArmedForces coach and U.S. Army and he was the coachof the AAIT team in the in Sau Fnmeisco, the last international le I BA world contestin Louisiana which was contest run by the AA The article states: 1''11 asked to coach the team which wethought was Mr. Fisher was not in selection of the players.and most unusual,and not asked to help be clearly brought outthat .Mr. Fisher is the two- think it should which is an 1 time defending'champion of the AAU tournament, held in the highschool gymnasium inLondon, Ky., home State of SenatorCook. Russian tour was here We think it isunusual that the last, time the by the AAU. It played'clop games against seniors it wits pro.mted completed, and againstprofessional team whose eligibility was out of D. I had the rookie players.They won. The Russians won the game in Indianapolisand Utah, the only privilege of watching of the flab game wonby the Utah all-stars,Bill Sharnum, the coach 223 pm ball dub me;the coach of that game. Professionalcoaches were wed 3 years ago. It scents strange, this is the same Russiantenni that has been to- gether for over 4n0 ball games over a period ofyears. I think Sen- ator (look ninth, the continent."Yes, we would be picking up players anti asking them to practice maybe 3 or 4days together and go out and play like what most lieopleconsider tt prOft$S1011111 team." Our question is: Why don't they playthe Boston Celtics, or New York Knikerboekers? *I think that wouldbe an exeellent contest for titent. We are eoncerned in the areas that the Congressand the President has a very limited or nonexistent budget. forthe State Department's etiltural presentation. We have found through overseaswork that rants:46c work is done in the areas of music, arts,and snorts. but there is no money for it. The NCAA andthe Basketball Federation of the (*lilted States are making a significant.contribution to inter- national sports. I think that should be brought to yourattention that theselmol and college communityis100 percent behind theV.5.col- legial. sports Council, which is involved with the Worldruiversitv ( hones. which, incidentally, will be held in Moscow this summer.All groups who represent the studentathlete compete in this champion- ship. It is strange that. we find some of the sameRussian professional athletes are still students, while they hold ranksof captains and majors and so forth in the Red army. These samestudents had been students for a long period of time,lint sk Web may be the European venture. I think you very 'midi for the opportunity to makethis statement. Iwould welcome an opportunity to try to answer anyquestions you have, sir. Mr. 011.m.l. Thank you, Mr. Wall, fm coming toWashington to Kest 'your views on the legislation before us. Mr. Wall. may I conclude from your remarks thatin the field cf basketball, you don't, think the AA'[' ought to be therepresentative of tlw I*nited States internationally? Mr. WALL. Yes, sir, I do. As of :March 31, by theinternational or- gn ion, they will no longer be in this case. Mr. OThttA. We are familiar with the internationalorganization. That is not. entirely just what is happening, but in any eventit is your personal opinion that the A AIT should not continue as a IT.S.member of the International Basketball Association, is that right ? Mr. WALL. Yes, sir, it is. Mr. O'Ihn.t. Are you actively engaged in an effort to replace the AAIT with another organization? Have you been involvedwith the meeting that Ed Steitz has called and so forth ? Mr. WALL. Yes. right. Mr. O'HARA. SO you couldn't be classified as a neutral in this dispute? Mr. WALL I don't believe I mulct be, sir. Mr. Mr. Benitez, any questions? Mr. BENtrzz. Yes. What, if anything, do you findobjectionablein Mr.()'tiara's Can you point out any part of it whie in s'om' judgment isunsaleable? Mr. WALL I inn deeply concerned, sir, that I. as a professor of educa- tion, and an educator and a roach, belonging to an institutional whin- 2'24 No, group of which any faculty a tut my president feel is in the best interests of our program. We have it liim to join this organization. We have an opport unity under IlseIINTSS to Make the Mks, anti When the rules are Made it isourobliglttion to follow them. Mr. BENrrEz. Yes. excuse ale, doyon hare the billwith you Mr. 1VAL1.. Well. I have a el Illy of it. Mr.BENITEZ. The reaSoll 1 tlAeil is t hat I Iwve Ilernreading the bill, seetion by Rohm, and einleavoring findout Malt t here is object loll- able ill the tirst MI. Which limitsitself to forbid a student be disqualified from conqqing io.t lierause such studentat least has present intention to pail or has parl kilalted indirielually or as a member of it team representing the 1nited States in amateur internationalilthlet h' eoltiOel it 7e IIIagainst indivilluals or a team or tpleig represent ing any oilier 1,011111 ry. Mr.W. Yes. Mr. llexrrez. What is the bruin .1 the argument againsta provision which limits itself to forbid disqualilieat ion for themere fact of trying to compete Ott their own in an international a lair! Mr. %VALI.. Sir,we 10110kind of by trial and error method that there are tl lot of !winnows planoting a variety of events. Iand not sure if it would la.the Sallie thingthat a young man connecting iii Minneapolis. Minn., in it2-ineh snowstorm, if the next day he could have nn opportunity to platy in an all-star basketballgame in a ('ar- ribean or lin wiian area. 1 have It tendeney to believe he would want to get. out of the snow. 'flits would be it little harmful if you played back in the void country .2 days later. By the trial anderror method the certification process has been in for a long time. It involvesareas that. do not involve AM' and it is for football as well as basketball. We find promoters who are trying to makea living, and maybe it is not quite fair to say a "quick bnek." but many of the promotions are very reputable charity things. but I think from trial and error this is our best judgment. that certification and request for certificationare fairly reviewed by members of the NCAA executive committee, which are not paid employees. These are voluntary people, deans of law schools and professors of engineering across the country, and these are not the emplovees of the group. Mr. Ilxez. If I may say. my difficulty with your position is that I perceive. to a degree, ft desire to own others in a way which precludes their exercise of their freedom of participation, and which punishes them if they should say they might participate. Mr. WALL. Well I think the greatest example of that, sir. would be Bill Walton was asked by me taisonallyas a member of the Olympic Basketball Committee to play in both the Pan Ant and the Olympic Games anti lie chose not to and dithet. Lou Alcindor, before he changed his name, was tusked to represent the U.S. in the Olympic Games and he close not to play. Elvin Hayes of the University of Houston was asked also to represent the rnited States and he chose not. to play. So there is freedom of rimier. sir. Mr. Rex rrez. lint what is objectionable hi this particular section? Mr. WALL. Well. 7 would just have to come back to that in the trial and error method this is our best judgment that the way that certifi- cation is needed, sir. 225

\Ir. BENITEZ.. .1111I Siiipusv the Sallie argument. or the same posi- tion, is the one that deterlows your oppostram to section 02, and see- ! imt03! Mr. WALL Yes. sir. Mr. BEN rrEz. Anil it ran all be summed up in your understanding that itis het for athletics in general if each ow of the unions or a.sociat ions or federations that exist an deity participation to its mem iers if they do not approve special international games. That is yourosition ! Mr. WALL. Well. I think there are a variety of speeial international games which everybody cooperates in; the Maceabialt Games are ccrt i lied. .1r. BEN nu. I know. but if they decide not to cooperate then they eau cancel the membership of the particular individual who contrary to the beliefs of the associations wants to participate? Mr. WALL. 111111 not sure I understand completely what you are saying. sir. but the Basketball Federation of the United States, and I am only qualified to talk about sports in basketball, this past year hod over 40 international contests played in the United States. 'rite tinlean team ()hayed 30 or -It) ball games here, and we have teams that go overseas. The question that Senator Cook I believe asked, the question of the I "niverstty of North Carolina ',laving in Spain. this was at the request Of the I'.5. State Department to lie represented over there; two other universities were not able to work it in. I think if you find flying to Spain for 3 clays in which you play two ball games in between two tournaments. one in the east and another in New Mexico, is a treat or a thrill. I think that is a mistake. What they had to do at the request of the U.S. State Department is what they had to do there. But we are working with exchanges with Brazil, coming up.to play in the Big-8 Conferenee. and Missouri Valley is playing a foreign con- feence. and t here is at great deal of this student exchange in the college community. Mr. BENITEZ. I am just trying to identify the purpose and the pcis- Salle consequenee of this bill. It seems to nee that all it aims at Is avoid- ing a possible situation of monopoly and of decisive and ultimate con- trol which might preclude the freedom of movement of athletes. Mr. WALL. Yes, I think the concern with the bill, sir, is the fact of "Where does it stop?" Many of the things talked about this morning by Senator Cook, for example, he covered a wide range of rules and a variety of eireumstanees. Where does the Federal intervention stop with the voluntary organization? I eould comment on a variety of the of her things, but I choose not to at this time. Mr. IimarE. No. the only thing I was wondering about is if there was any language in this particular bill which you find specifically objectionable ? Mr. WALE.. Well. I suppose it is safe to say I ant against the bill, sir. Mr. BENrrzz. Thank vou. Mr. O'IlAtt.t. Mr. Huber ? Mr. Minn. Yes. I notice you said you would be accompanied by the head basketball roach of Yale rniversity.

flort0, 228 Mr. WALL. Yes. When I asked Mr. Franklin for the opportunit y to appear before this group. Mr. Van Cisin was to be installed Monday as the president of our association, and I had not cleared it with him. and with his schedule it was not possible to be here. Mr. Hum. Was he the head coach at the time NCAA saw fit to put tile ha n on Yale ? Mr. WALL. Yes, sir, he had been head coach there I believe 15 years. Mr. 1 Irma. Do yon think it was a proper exercise of the power of the \CAA in that incident involving a player from Yale in the Maebiali Gaines? Mr. WA t.t...1 re you asking me this question Mr. I Yes. T am asking you. Mr. WALL. Yes, sir. I did think so. Mr. 11111En. You thought that the player was being treated fairly and Yale University was being treated fairly in view of those circiunstanees? Mr. WALL. Yes, sir. I did. They had an opportunity to make the rules. The Mace:thigh Committee had an opportunity to request for cm cat ion and did not choose to do so, Mr. 11i-nca. Wasn't it true previously that there had been people playing in the Maceabiali games and they never had any sanctions before ? qtr. WALT,. T believe sanctions had been used in previous years. Mr. 111-nr.n. That is not what we had in the testimony that I recall before this committee. There were no circumstances that were dif- ferent except they decided to flex their muscles in the partieulnr rase and they certainly did, at least that is my remembranee.Mr. Chairan.m T don't recall any previous one. Mi'. O'ffAitA. If you yield. That is right. There were the 1969 Mae- ettbiali games in question: in the 1905 31aerabiali games no one bad been disciplined or declared ineligible from participation, and at. the 1969 games themselves it was only the basketball players that were subiected to discipline rather than any other participants. Mr. WALL. Well, I would yield to you. on that,sir,butbelieve the national educators delved into it long and hard and it. was their deci- sion as a member of the group. I support it. I think it is interesting to know that the young man in question, after playing the game, came back and in the middle of his season chose to quit the Yale team. Mr. Timm. That could be, but the incident I was concerned about was this resolution that was adopted. Don't you think that it is a little hypocritical to talk about the competition that was arranged for television purposes? That is bad enough, but it didn't seem to bother anyone to charge things for the benefit of television purposes and for the convenience of the Russians, well, at least it must have been for the convenience of the people who wanted to make the maximum amount of money for the NCAA. Now don't von think it is a little hypocritical to take a position opposing something when it is not on your side, but when your side does it it is a rather noble ges- ture to bring athletics to 42 million people who can watch it in prime time on Monday night? Don't you think that is hypocritieal? Mr. WALL. No sir, I don't agree with that. I would state when the to" was announced to the Nation's press. they announced facilities on college campuses, that the director of athletics and the college campus 227 did not kinm about, and I know they have used names Of amateur basketball players who are in the college game for publicity purpose and the young men in question Who were riot contacted, we have state- ments from some of the young people who were members of the Olympic team. that they have still not been contacted but their names have been up:ed un this ton r for publicity purposes. We don't know, ha ve not seen any place in the Minna! press. Mr. Want. That is not what the question is. I have just heen com- menting that I have been hearing all about this convent for some players who might miss attending classes--I presume they go to class StInulay. as I dn't recall too many classes being held on Saturdays. If you are really so t,irribly concerned about the education of students. then it :t little hard to explain why you won't have the tourna- ment on a Satinay rather than on a 3bnalay, especially if educa- tion act nally was the No. .1 concern? 1 am just saying that sitting here and listening to people talk before the committee, I timid that there is too muck hypocrisy in the presenta- tion of the two associations for me to sit by and not be willing to sup- port some corrective kind of legislation to solve this problem. No further questions. Mr. ( )'Ilmt.t. Mr. I'eyser. Mr. Puystai. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Wall. we welcome your testimony and appreciate you are will- ing to appear here today. fiet time ask you. does the National Association of Basketball Coaches which you are executive director of, do they have any affiliation with the NCAA at all Mr. WALL. Other than the fact that by the NCAA constitution: any mach who belongs to the NCAA gets a free ticket to the national championship. That would be our only affiliation, sir. We have mem- es m the NAM. junior colleges, and high schools. and we have the allied members in the sporting goods community who follow basket- ball and sell sporting goods. and so forth. Mr. Puysial. You don't have any members of your association that sit on the board of the NCAA? Is that right? Mr. WAu. No. We have one member, Lucius Mitchell, Kentucky State College. our new vice president, that is a member of both na- t ional accrediting groups. NCAA and NAIA, and he would be the only one, and the remainder of us all belong to NCAA schools. Mr. Pustat. What is the name of he gentleman you mentioned from Kentnek,y? Nfr. ALL lie is a hoard of directors member, one of the twelve in suecession to the presidency from Kentucky State College, Fmk- flu t. Ky.. and he is vice president. Mr. Pcvsuit. Is "n tlwoard of the NCAA Mr. WALL. No, he belongs to both groups. NAIA and NCAA, which are in some eases on the international level on opposite sides of the table. Mr. PEystm. Well, now. in looking at the resolution, and I think it is important we comet something here because in the resolution it says, "The National Association of Basketball Coaches urges the House Committee on Education aml Labor not to attempt any effort to force this tour on American players," and I want to assure you that the

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House Committee on Education end Labor is not trying to force a tour on anybody. We are not, legislating that somebody has to play someplace. 'What we are really trying to say regardless of which bill is being considered here at this time, is that the players should have the right of selecting whether they want to play or not. but there is not hing in this leuislat ion that is trying to foe any players to do any- thing. and I think it is a pour choice of words bemuse it gives at totally different implication in this resolution as to what the facts are. You might convey this bark to par board on this because they might like to give some further consuleration to it. I think it is a poor choice of words. Now I gathered from your statement concerning Yale l'niversity and Jack Langer that you do support the part of the N('A.t's right to inflict penalties on schools or through schools onto players if they do not abide by their rules; you do support that? Mr. WALL. Yes. sir. Mr. PEysEn. All tight. And you don't feel that. this is in any way sort of an autocratic dictatorial procedure that is established by the NCAA ? You don't think that is a problem Mr. WALL. NO. sir. I think it is the same way if I ran a stop sign down here and was ticketed by a police officer. Mr. Walnut. Dosuitthink it is absolutely necessary for any organi- zation such as this to have that right of penalty in order to operate Mr. WALL. Sir, I think any time you have a rule, that you must have sonic kind of enforcement. proceaure or you have no rule. Mr. PEYstR. What about the NAIA, whom you mentioned before. Do they have any right of penalty? Mr. WALL. I can't speak for them, sir. I ant not. a member. I think Mr. D'Allesandro, who will speak later, can speak to that. PEVSER. We have testimony from their leadership and they have no such penalties or rights in their charter to inflict any such penalty on schools or players. and yet they seem to function, I think, in a very admirable manner,being ableto let schools and players know what the situations are pertainnig to a given meet and advising them of their thinking one way or the other, and then they leave it up to the school and the player to make that decision. This seems eminently fair to me and I. for the life of me. can't understand how we can tolerate organizations that eau, in effect, ruin a player's career. A )uung man can work his whole life to !,ret a certain degree of perfection and in one fell swoop they can ruin Ins career. Ile has not done anything dishonest. He has not 'cheated anybody, or done anything illegal, hut by a decision of a small group of men they can ruin his career. god can possibly affect a futiire in athletics in a school if the school chooses to stand up for the player. I think we have gone along many too many years haying that power sit there and, I think, because of the use of the power these organiza- tions have invited this congressional hearing which frankly is long overdue. If you want to comment on that I would welcome it. Hut I just. feel we are really not looking at the best interests of the country or the players. Mr. WALL. I would like to speak just a second on it, sir. I represent a school which I doubt any one of you every heard of, but I doluire

r4. %Jr 229 vote and a voice in NCAA policy. I think limy peoph around the United States just think it is the Kansas City office. withthree or four people, or even Walter Byers that makes thedeisions. This is not the' ease. This is people like me all over the United States inevery State who have a concern,professionalism. an expertise in this par- ticular field. anti this be our best judgment. Mr. l'EvsKu. Sir, (liti yon speeilleally vote that the Amerieanathletes, the Olympic. ehampions could not compete again against1111/4Sift ill the IIi;1111101111 1'011 vote .Ir. WALL. In the totalprocess, in the rulebook and the constitn- t I did vote to nphold these rules. Ir. PEvsfin. Well. you didn't voteon that speitie issue? Mr. W.w.. No, sir. Mr. NYSE% Anti judging from the coacheswe heard from, includ- e ing one this morning, and others who havetestified, and others who ha vie written, none of them would havevoted to eliminate those athletes from minim :jug. N1 r. WP11. 1 voted for the representatives who votedto sup- port the rules of the membership. Now, I would liketo ask you, sir, Mr. Johnson I believe in the letteryou read this morning, where does he coach Mr. l'fivsEn. St. Alban's School. I believe it is. Mr. WALL Is that a high school ? MI%1/11'SEll. Yes. Ir. WALL. A prep school ? Mr. l'EvsEn. Yes. Mr. WALL lb is lint n member of the NCAA, sir,so he is not in the dmproeess procedure. lie is certainly welcometo his opinion, but he is not it member-roach of11 member institution. Mr. l'EsEn. Which is exactly why hewas chosen. The NCAA eli- minated all of the college (smiles whowere members of the NCAA in one fell swoop. Mr. Wm_ einild I ask youa question? What is AM*? Don't they ha ve any coaches? Mr. Ptistitt. 11 'ell. the question of getting the bestcoaches is what we Wen, timilihr with, the A All itself does not have any conches. Mr. WALL by do they have It program? Aft., !Instal. now, you are turning another whole question around now. The AAU has certain rights. Iam not defending the A Al% I have not been very sympathetic with their operation, butthey do have 'rights andareanthozed,n and they are acting within their legal rights in this situation,as they see it. 1 am not defending them, but they certainly have thesame rights as NCAA. The trouble is that you huVe two premmnably grown-up organizations with adults in their **warn' who are acting likea bunch of 5-year-olds fighting over a little prize, instead of trying to look at the total picture of what is involved. I lust think we have had enough of it. Thank von, Mr. N11% OellAjtA. Thank you, Mr. Peyser. And thankyou again, Mr. Arall, for tippet' ring. Mr. WA/ t,. Thank vou, sir. Afr 011AtiA. Our next witness is Prof. I tarryCross, professor of lawprofessorof property law in the law school of the University of 1% ash iington in Seattle. flepr) 0. 230

Professor Cross's school is a memberOf the Plait le Eight Confer- ence, and Professor Crossis the senior faculty athleticrepresentative from the school to the confereeee.Heis a past president of the Na- t instal Collegiate Athletic Association. Mr. Cross, we would be pleased to hearfrom you.

STATEMENT OF PROF. HARRY CROSS,PROFESSOR OF LAW, SENIOR FACULTY ATHLETIC REPRESENTATIVETO PAC= EIGHT CON. FERENCE, UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON,SEATTLE, WASH. Professor ( Tlunik you, Mr. Cliainium. Alembers of the committee. 1 want to express myappreriation for the opportunity to appear. I think itmight behelpfulto youfinra persiwetive on what I will say to give you abit of my barkground. In addition to being professor oflaw, I was appoint as faculty athletic representative Iiy the presidentof the university in Dm. 1 serve at his pleasure. I suppose when we get it newpresident 1 have to offer my resignation aunt fluid outwhat his pleasure is going to be. I have previonsly been 1)11 several committeesof the university, stu- dent related or fueulty oilministrationrelated, having to do with athletics in one fashion or another and, infact, some of my predecessor faculty representatives were colleaguesofMilli' in law school. While I hadnot been (firmly involvedin the problems of intercollegiate ath- letics untilIbecame a &unity athletic representative,I was in feet somewhat knowledgeable about it, andhaving at least modest sym- pathy or tolerance for it as a facultymember not very knowledgeable. Iam now on a. committeewhich is culled an advisory com- mittee on intercollegiate athletics Ma& upof faculty, staff, and stn- dets. The task of the committee is toadvise in trims of theinter- collegiate problems of the university and of ourconference in particu- lar, and at times our position with reference toNCAA proposals, to the president, and to the vice president,who is principally in charge of the area in which athletics falls, and. of course.to the director of intercollegiate athletics. Here I must identify that I speak us afaculty member who has sonic knowledge aboutintercollegiate athleties, but one who has not had any administrative responsibility forthe operation of its pro- grams, or for its financehi a direct. sense, and of course I cannot. speak for the Pacific Eight Conference itself becausethere has been no oppor- Milky for it to meet, nor in a direct sense for thel'iliversity of Wash- ington. In other words. I am saying I think I mayhave something to offer hi the context. of this. of a faculty personemwerned with inter - collegiate athletics and with sonic knowledge of itfrom the stood- point of the faculty position. Before Ibecame a faculty representative I was mildly interested in intercollegiate athletics twrhaps a bit morethan others, and think you have to bat a tolerance on it. and myposition was that if our regents were going to havecollegiate athleties I wanted an honor- able program by which we are not going to he embarrassedby conduct larkofsuccess. but I didn't mind if itdidn't interfere with the ara- demic tasks of the student. athletes, and I thought we thenhad a pro- gram of that sort and 1 was not oneof those, as someofmy academic colleagues are, completely persuaded that it has no proper place on college campus, or school campus. at all.

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Whist' I a' a facultyrepresentative I became more knowledge- able about not only what is going on inthe (lio sense. of the pro- grains with reference tostudent ittleetes, but also the aspirationsanti efforts made by most of om. couches nowand certainly our Minims- tnit ive people to make it a very strongcontributing factor to the total ethwational experience of the studentparticipating in it. 1 have con- sequently become SS advocate. I hope our programs will becomebroader and stronger as time goes on, and certainly as strong us'haulm will permit in our respective In- stitutions, and not merely us 1 thought about it owe upon atime, just a tolerable thing to have. My concern is obviously that theacademie responsibilities of the student athlete not be overlooked, and that they arethe primary ones. It is interesting to note in this respect. thatit is rather common for the student athlete to make higher gradesdining their seasons of competition than they make in the otf-seasons.It is also not at all surprising to tint) that the average grade point of thestudent athlete is higher limn the average grade point of themale student in the student body, and it is in fact trite at the Universityof Washington, or has been 1t number oftimes. On the other hand, intercollegiate athletics, or anyparticular non- aeademie activity can take up so mach time thatit. does interfere with what I believe to be the pruwipal taskthey have at an educational institution, and the net result of this, of course,is that the institution must have, either by adoption orby means of cooperative adoption of roles,sonicrestraints which prohibit or help control the amountof time der oted to these endeavors,valuable as they are from an educa- tional standpoint, which might interferewith the academic respon- sibilities of a particular youngster. I inn sure that all of us know that mostcoaches agree with that basically, but still with their primary task: asthey see it, to develop a whining team, todevelop the greatest ?dull they can of the student athletes, they have some difficulty in trying tokeep their enthusiasm and bone demands within a reasonablelimit. I mum also a believer, whatever ourrules may be, they ought to be adopted, or a standard ought to heestablished at the lowest practical level, that autonomy that.eachof us have as individuals or as institu- tions ought to be as complete as ispractical. But I think in many eg- rets in intercollegiate athleticsthis cannot mean either individual or institutional autonomy. We inevitably compete withagainst, others, both individually in a team sense, and institutionallyin the com- petitive sense of our teams and our athletes one with theother. It must mean, therefore, that theserules that are designed to pro- mote the welfare ofintercollegiate athletics and, therefore, of the students who participate, have to be arrived atin some common give and take, so that there are many institutionsthat can reasonably live witd these rules, or at lentil can live with them. I thinkthere is an odd thing about the NCAA rules in the totalpicture. They are not com- plete in the sense of a totally harmonious pattern. Someof them have facets that, seem to partially attack a problem,but don't get all the way through it. it .1i consequencemalmilitmlly of the problem of persuading a averseerse membership fromsmall institutions to large ones, 232 with all degrees of athletic programs, toagree upon what is a reason- able rule with a problem whieh has limn identified that must bemet by some kind of a rule. Sometimeseven though those who have the problem primarily feel they havea reasonable rule, others who don't think they have the problem are unwilling to legislate bemuse of the idea that the fewer rules we have the better ofwe are, that is, local autonomy, It AVs to me that the intercollegiate athletics has not only the responsibility to develop, as it tines. the physical skill and ability in the athletic sense, and to promote the desire of the student athlete to do his best and to win. as distinct from "Witt at any cost," but. I think it also has a significant responsibility, which in largemeasure it does periorm, to develop a sense of responsibility in the participant. I think the institution, the coach, and the player all have responsibility, as well as opportunity, they have responsibility to the players and the team and to the program itself. I think thesuccess of their pro- grams. and thus their contribution to the student athletes, largely depends upon the carrying out of this responsibility by all of them, not merely by some of the participunts, 1 don't think it isa one-way street, I think it goes both ways, responsibility as wellas opportunity being involved in this situation for titstudent athlete. Now these examples or identifiations of the responsibilities that. are involved here are in large measure identified and marked out by some of the rules and restraints thatyou find, not only in the M1 booklet. Pacific Confermwe Rules as they may have them, but the NAIA book, which I have read, but I haveno great familiarity with it, so they may, too, they have evolved, though not complete. through the experience of Willy trying to meet, as I say, a problem that they see that needs some common attack. Now, I think our institutions have the duty to keep intercollegiate athletics a part of the total educational picture, and indeed attimes ate institutions need protection of rules and restraints on what they might do designed to promote this long-range valuable educational goal of intercollegiate athletics. They need protection at times from pressure front the immediate and outside interests who think they have a perfectly wonderful idea if they are able to persuade thecom- munity or someone els,, to do it, and sometinws theyeven then per- suade the directors, or administrators of the athletic program itself. Though. on more sober thought, looking at it from the longerrange pattern it. would be pretty clear this would not be the desirable thing, and it might very well not serve all of the student athletes, which ought to be the basic test of our rules. To developa sense of respon- sibility, it seems to me: is part of that service, It the student athlete is to be froe of restriction and rules and still be fully eligible topar- ticipate in this institutional program, one of the major contributions of intercollegiate athletics whichyou can make is lost; that is, develop- ment and recognition of responsibility. If the student athlete desires to conduct himself or participate out- side of the rules that his institution has, both those whichare de- veloped by the institution itself and those which the institution has worked with others to arrive at a rule or restriction, then I suggest the student put himself to it choice. He can participate outside of the program, or he may stay within the program and make his contribu- tion to it and get the benefits that the program has.

of.Irtr 233 I think to permit him to do both inhibits the development of the sense of responsibility that athletics can develop for youngstersand for others who will become aware of what isgoingon. Now,1have not addressed myself in my thinking to an analysis of the proposals, particularly to Congressman Peyser's bill, nor any- thing more of H.R. 5023 than section 1301. I do see this as creating a serious risk of promoting unbridled freedom for a student athlete to do his own thing without regard to its wisdom or safety, or without to the responsibility he has to teammates and to his institution. 1 believe the section would be a serious barrier to the orderly conduct of institutional programs. Let me give you a hypothetical, the sort of thing that perhaps Mr. Wall had in mind. I am sure you are all aware of the extent to which our student athletes, particularly some of those with particular promise, are in demand to appear almost anyplace you can think of, luncheon clubs, charity drives, and all kinds of things, enormous de- mands on their time, and there are problems that the counselors have to help them with, and the student has to help himself with, and taking these kinds of demands that you can expect along with those that are not mangement's, suppose we putt into this not just his appearance, bemuse he is an aetive young man or woman, but we must understand under the circumstances he is going to compete, the demands on him would be far greater than they are now and the ability to control excessive demands and to put him in a position to protect himself would be hurt by a rule or legislation which would say that, -If he does not in a sense carry his share, of his responsibility to his institution's program, lie cannot be declared ineligible for it," and it seems to me this is directly what can happen and would happen. For an illustration, suppose you had some enterprising promoter in Portland or Seattle, who derided to get particularly good swimmers perhaps, or particularly good gymnasts from the State of Washington and Oregon and persuades some colleague of his from British Columbia to bring persons down from Vancouver or Victoria to compete, can't you see the pressure being put on tile youngster and the possibility that the demand would be made on him 'in a situation where it would be greatly difficult for him to say no and disrupt his progress in his own institution's program as well as the institution's program itself? I do feel that there isnow inthis proposal the destruction or at least some serious harm to the development of a sense of responsibility, and also hits the added difficulty of putting an institution trying to do entirely the best thing that has heen agreed on in a positica where its hands folly be very well tied up in a very serious manner. I apologize for not having this in writing, and perhaps somewhat disorganized. but I can't type on a plane, and I am surprised I am as awake es l am. Thank yon very much. Mr. oeihm. Thank youvery much, Professor. We enjoyed hearing f141111you. Icertainly agreed with all of the objectives you have set forth. You think the student athlete ought to not devote such time to athleties that his academic welfare is endangered or interfered with. Yon believe that he has certain responsibilities to his institution, to his academic progress, that you want to see him discharge,and I think 234 that the institin ion 1111$ every right to insist that the studi:nt athlete, like any other student, discharge his responsibility to his anidemie

1 seems to me that question does not really arise with wspeet to the NeAA unless the interference with academia welfare comes from par- ticipation in an misimetioned event. We have heard a great 'kill. fo, instance, from the NCAA that they would &clan. t1 basketball player who partieipated in the forthcoming tour with the Soviet Union ineligible, and one of the main reasons therefor is that this Nunes right during or about examination time for many of the student athletes. But we see the NCA holding its own basketball tournament at examination week for the UCLA team. Examination week at 1'('1..1 was last week. They were participating iu the tournament On the weekend before and the weekend after, WO MI the Monday a ft/'1'. and they didn't seem to think there was ally problem with that. 1;11tt if it is the AA'sU tour with the Soviet team that happens to come during the examination period for somebody, then that is a problem. Don't you think a double standard is being set here! Professor Caoss. No; I think it is unfortunate that our diamion- ships come at tittles like that. I can assure you that the faculty people, for that matter, their athletic directors are also concerned about that. The effort certainly is made to minimize this part of the col- legiate program and its impact upon the academic accomplishment. the academie responsibility. Unfortunately, this is it program that impinges upon that situation. think, to go to the responsibility point, I think there is t1 responsi- bility with reference to the student, not only ill his aeademic area, butthibil, is a responsibility both to the institution and the student ill the so-called extracurricular activities, too, that if he is it participant inthem there is a responsibility there and the institution that permits those kinds of aetivities has a responsibility also with mferenee to those act ivit Certainly the efforts of the NCAA, as I am aware of them, and the details of some of this I do not have. but that particular kind of task never came across my desk in any major fashion,but the efforts of the NCAA in this sort of thing is to keep these problems in mind in a very serious and important fashion, and try to minimize the conflict that is inherent in it. I think no one denies there is conflict. but it also may be that the conflict becomes so exaggerated and exacerbating that itis intolerable. It seems to me, from what I beam' of the Russian basketball tour, it is an intolerable thing for whoever participates in it as a student. Mr. O'lfmtA. You see. professor, this double standard thing bothers me, if the university. forinstance, 11118 a requirement. and some uni- versities still do, and many of them have departed front the old re- quirement that, you must attend a certain percentage of your classes, you may rut only so many of your classes. Profiissoe ettoss. I amafraid many of them have. I might add I don't like the situation a small bit. if I may interrupt. Mr. OHARA. You are right. but, you see, if thnt sort of rule were uni- formly applied, where a university that had such a rule applied it to athletes and nonnthletes alike atul applied it to athletes whether they

f7..elf3 ft 235 are competing in a sanctioned or nonsimetioned event, you see, I can understand that, go along, with that, and say, "AVell those are the rules and they are evenly appiied..' But when you see that a very large per- centage of the Nation's outstanding collegiate athletes never graduate from college, you know that is a problem, that many of themnever graduate from college, and they spend 4 or 5 years ata college and par- ticiate in athletics aunt many of them never graduate,never earn a degree. When I you know the hardest year, at least it was for me, and I know it is for my children, and I think for most college students, is the first. year of college when you are making the adjustment to uni- versity life, and when you see that the NCAA, instead of taking addi- tional steps to keep that student. from being diverted from studies dur- ing his freshman year, have now declared freshmen eligible for varsity athletic participation, and I don't see any restrictionson that. In fact, it is going the other way. When you see the multisports problem, you know, the athlete in- volved in football, basketball, baseball, or track, you know, and he is going all yeararound,and when you saw, as a member of the Indiana basketball team. a freshman named Buckner,an excellent basketball player. who is participating as a varsity athlete in his freshman year, not only in basketball but in football, and when I see John Lucas out at the tniversitv of Maryland who played in his first intercollegiate tennis match 2 clays after he finished the basketball season. .ou know, and he is a freshman, I say to myself, "Well if the NCAA is really an concerned about the academic welfare of these kids, how come the only thing that gets them excited is when one of these kids wants to play in an event sponsored by a rival organization?" You know, that arouses your suspicions a little bit. Professor Cans& Well, I think, Mr. Chairman, to try to have some special conventions created by the NCAA to meet some other prob- lems, I can assure you they get excited about a lot of things, but I think the freshman thing was an unfortunate thing, but it. indicates the circumstances that. it is it voluntary organization and the vote of the majority of members is adopted. 1 voted against it. Imay say, to permit freshmen, for the very reasons you identified. In fact, my conference did. So, on the graduation point, I think while it is true there are, a large number of student athletes that do not get. degrees. I think in many institutions, including. mine, the percentage of student athletes who get degrees is higher than the percentage of male students who are not athletes who get degrees and this is true in a good many in- stitutions, so that, and I may say beyond that point, clearly, Ican meal' as it youngster when It was not at all uncommon for the insti- tion to use the youngster as an athlete so long as he had eligibility and drop him cold. I think there is far less of that thenwas ever done before. Bides that you cannot cut financially for athleticreasons and so on arc rules to pmtect the student athlete. I don't. know that anyone will say ti.m. are not weaknessesor even some alums, but I think it is incorrect to my that there is no concern, and no Paoli to try to solve the problems and meet time roncerns. Mr. °Than. Well, I think professor, that is true. I didn't'mean to overstate the ease. I am sure the. NCAA does have an interest in the 21) 1211- 44----111 236 welfare of the athlete, but 1 11111 also sure that their interest in the wel- fare of the athlete, and I am sorry I have reached this conclusion, is not seta ly as great as the interest in the welfare of the NCAA, and that is t te conclusion I have arrived at. I am sorry to have to say. I don't say they are any betterwell, that the AMU is any better. TheAIT just does not have as many opportunities. It reminds me of the story of Sam Ervin's, which he told me the Other day, about the Congressman that was charged with having accepted a bribe for his vote On it particular measure. Well, he presented an alibi defense. Ilewasnot even in the country at the time all of this was supposed to have occurred. He put in his alibi defense and then he started introducing character testimony and that of course, as you know, gave the prosecution a chance to attack his character. His character was at issue, so when the jury brought back its verdict, and the judge asked the foreman if the jury was ready to announce a verdict they said, "Yes. Your Honor, we have reached, we actually have arrived at agreement on two points. First, the defendant who we find not guilty, we find that he was not eveninthe country he was off on one of those junkets at the time this was supposed to have happened, and secondly, WI' find if1whad been in the country and he had been there, and he 'had been offered that money he surely would have taken it." So I ant sure that the AAU's situation is they don't have as many chances to remove eligibility from people, and to blackjack athletes as the NCAA has. I am sure if they had as many chances they would use them. But I inn concerned about that athlete, and I know that vonare, and I think if we had rules equitably applied, then we could afl under- stand that, but we don't. think this rule is applied thatway,but this rule is really directed more at rivalorganizations than it is at t Ile WPi fitre of the Nation. Professor Ctioss. I think there is one thing that I lostin that sort of a comment, and I am puzzled about thissometimes myself, that some of the rules which at a partividar point seem to be applied in a fashion primarily aimed against a particular person oraparticular institution, or an organization, I think looked at in the longer-run for thewe' fare of intercolleg'ate athletics, which must be theperspec- tive of the NCAA, as I see it, can be found to be rules thatare worth- whileand useful. If there is smile way to have a good rule, if there were some leeway so if you get the bad situation you can adapt toit and this would be fine, but it is very difficult to do that, asyou know, and it is also one of those situations that if youstart doingthat then you pretty soon are criticized thatyou are not following the rules at all. To the extentthat someof the rules may be undesirable, I think the correct rule,and the membership if they feel they are undesirable, the correct rule is to change the legislation, aswe do withsome regularity. Idon't know if we ought tomake any real advances with it, Idon't think we did with the freshman rule,for instance. Arr. O'HARA. I thank you very much, and your observations have been very helpful to us. Mr. Huber? Any questions? Arr. !rum.% Well, yes:Arr. Chairman, 237

You mentioned that;t sort of like a two-way street, that the athiete varticipates and thea lie should abide by the rules and regula- tions. 1% here would you suggest that he go, outside of the professional ranks, if he did not want to do that In other words, you suggest there isan alternative and I don't see the alternative. The alternative is if he is not ofa caliber to make a prokssional team, he has to abide by the rules or he is disciplined. there is not really an alternatives for this man at all. Professor Cams. I was speaking of aarticillar situation that I see that poses a problem under the bill, that the rides are designed to accomplish certain things, and for the most part I think good things, and if he devilled he is not going to abide by the rules and go to that, other sort of competition, then it seems to me he is at point when' he has to make a choice. 1 recognize if he hasa Hob- sou's choice only,there is just one horse to get, lie can decide to ride it anti stay on or not, and that isthesame problem we all have many times. That goes to the question of whether the basic rule is a reasonable rule and I think for the most part the rules the NCAA has, and which our e011fPrenee have,art' reasonable rules in the context in which they must operate. .Ir. I knot. I don't follow your reasoning because itseems to me your ailment is that the player has an alternative. And yet if he wants to stay in this school, in college. he must abide by whatever rules and regulations they have committed themselves to insonic organiza- tional structure, and then your suggestion is that if lie does not do that, then. it is all right to go oil' 1.1. himself. Where would he go? The only thing open to him is the professional ninks, and possiblyone Mum- ment like the Maecabiali gullies. lie might just have a chance to go to the one Maccabiall game and then he is ruined for the rest of his career, but to me that is not much of an alternative. That is not to say that this guy has some selection. Ile hasno selection at all in that case, because you could not put on a scale the one tournament at the Macca- blab games versus his wholecareer and say he really has a choice. That is no choice sit all. So I don't see that. I sun also concerned about some of the other things whichare really not part of the problem, but are of concern back in Michigan, where our chairman and I reside. We occasionally play the State of Ohio, which is in our 14:g Ten Conference. Once in a while Ohio hasa foot- ball team and sometimes we like tosee it, you know, on television, but all of these regulations and rules sometimes prevent it; who are they protecting? Certainly that one has been kicked aroundmany times, and the Ohio people would obviously like to see the Michigan team, there is no question they would benefit greatly by seeing iton television, but they don't have that chance. It might be Wisconsin,or Indiana, on some other occasion, and I am interested in the way all of these rules anti regulations are set, down that deny it lot of rights to a lot of peo- ple. more than maybe just the athlete, and you must have it outin the Rig Eight Conference. All of these things which have such noble aims really are self-per- petuating the people that want to call the shots2 and the public be damned, the players be damned, on and on goes this thing and nobody better rock the boat beetiuse somehow it might upset the situation.

1.1 238 I think that is a mistake. I think the testimony we have here, Mr. Chairman, would indicate that something ought to be done to further open up these kinds of sit unt hats for the people and players, andmaybe there might be some group somewhere that is telling us all what we ought to be doing, and if we don't like it is too bad. Mr. O'IIARA. I eertainly thank my colleague for that observation. I would like to add, if any Mirhigan-Ohio football game was to be 'plucked out, the one lust year should have been. Prof. ssor Cans-% If I may respond to Congressman IInber's (lini- ment on the Maecabial games itself, there were some youngsters in- ward to go to that and voted on the problem of what effect it might have on their eligibility and decided that choice was not attractive enongh. On the altermitive, "I f von only have one horse, of course do not have one", and I do think the problem is, "Is the rule of riding that horse a reasonable rule." In fact, however, the NAIA have different rules and there are a lot of youngsters from NCAA st'hools that trans- fer, to NAM institutions. and do compete, so there is the opportn- nity hem, and 1 and glad there is the opportunity because them are sete that believe initially that they are going to be able to perform with this institution that they feel has a very, very high and strong program and then discover they cannot. I am talking, not about a rule, although it sometimes is it rule complication, but they have an opportunity to go elsewhere, so I don't thiuk iii that resect it is quite so bad. I don't think I should get into the TV thing because I know quite a bit about it, but not enough,and even I email keep its hem for quite a while on that one. Mr. C' I IAnA. Thank yon, Ph, f-,:sor. N11..611005. Mr. GA-xs. I would like to congratulate you, Professor, for a very concise and articulate presentation. I am concerned about your ob- servation regarding the percentage of athletes that don't gist degrees. In your institution, do I understand you correctly when you saythat most of your athletes do graduate with a. high standing? Professor ()toss. I said that the percentage of athletes that get de- grees is higher than the percentageof the male student body generally at the University of Washington: and they rangeall across the in:a- &ink scale, in fact, some with very strong records and some with minimal records. Mr. CIAA-ns. I personally never thought there was any cot:: ern as to that distinction,because generally an athlete is a good or superior student. Professor ("miss. I said that is true also. The grade point averageof the student athletes at the University of Washingtonhas almost al- ways been higher in recent years.higher than the male average. GAA-nos. I wonder if I eau ask the chairman if he has per- centages in that area ? Nfr. O'IIARA. If you will yield, I don't have percentagesbut can go Imek to my sources and look It up. With respect to the percentage question, if von look at allentering freshmen and say, "What percentage of all of themgraduate 4 years hence?" and then compare it to the. percentage offreshman athletes, I am sure the professor's statement is correct. eeansethere is a great effort to keep the athletes in school, and not have them dmp outafter Gr lee k(103 312VIIVIttl p4.19 101000:4.10 4401.1.11 10 MO 01(.11 MU -1181 8l11a.1.1 tity4q0 v 48.10A 003 I- 8.1110.1 pun :11 .1.11 400 paii.m.) 10.0.410,4 .10.100p in 01(1 P11.) 3.0 4..1114 414.0.11 1 11 111 044 0.11W 31111s uor4tIAJo490

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r 240 t ion that is bad is one that you have got to jealously protect in thefirst place. Even though von get t lieone situation, this may be the mu., I don't know. von get the situation where thesanct ion would have come along with ehe opportunity to give the protection that isinhenmt iu that kind of measurement. Insisting111)011 standards is one, if you sta rt letting it get pecked away at, you get lost ent i rely. That is a "toe in the door" problem. Iam one that is fearful about having the t get in the door if 1am not willing to have the door opened wide, and this one Iam not, Mr. PuysEn. The toeyou refer to has already been in the door at num- ber of times in games, in internationalgames rather, that the NCAA had not even been asked for sanction,yet they let AM' athletes emu- pew. In some MA's I raised the question. "Why didn'tyou ask for sanetion?" and they said. "Well. in thoseeases some of them we didn't even know about," and thesewere cdses that were %veil im- licized with national stories of theevents, but they said. "Well, we didn'tidn't know about them." As a reporting institution. it wouldnot speak very well for the so- called organization of all of these collegesand athletic direetors that are involved. They have already established a pattern where insome international events they don'teven ask. Professor ('cuss. May I speak to that point inpart. As I understand it. the AAU ill thisarea, the national organization is not, the sponsor, it is the local (+alder of AAU which isthe sponsor. The California chapter I know something about from talkingto UCLA and I'S(' people. They are not onlyvery vigorous and have a very good pro- gram in a general sense bat are able and knowledgeable. I don't know whether the next AM' chapter whichcomes along and says, "We want to put on a meet under AAI; standards," whetheror not you have one WillettWillconduct a meet in a fashion which I would think all ofus agree it ought to be conducted, so I don't think the tot' is in the door, at least quite so far asvon suggest. Mr. Pxysxn. Weil. I appreciateyour coming here, Professor. We were just going on the main issue involved. I feel the school hasat real responsibility to the student athlete, and his coat+ hasa real responsibility, and most athletes that I know oftop flight caliber, when they are faced with decisions and choices, generallygo to their coach and say, "What doyou think on this situation of whether should compete or not f" If it isa question that is going to involve school tilts' the coach refers to the schoolas well and gets a feeling on it. Yet we have the NCAA sitting there and saving,"We are the only ones that can judge about this student athlete." I find itvery diffienit to accept. When I heard the statement made by Mr. Wall that the Nation's educators have put together these rides and regulationsI talked to a number of college presidents recently and they hare not put together any rules and regulations dealing with NCAA. In fact, I don't know of many educators who have stepped forward tosay they are eel's tainly supporting what the NCAA does andare involved in it. We only had one college president testify yesterday,or the day before, and he was loud in his condemnation of whatwas going on. As I say, I do appreciate your being here and whatyou have tosay. Thank, you, and thankyou, Mr. Chairman. Mr. 01Ann. Thank you very much.

nItzift, 241 Mr. Benitez? Mr. lizxrrzz. No questions. Mr. O'llta.t. Thank von again for coming. Our last witness today trill be Mr. Louis D'AlleFundro, who is from New Hampshire. and he is director of athletics at New Ilampshim College. and he is the school's head basketball coach us well. Ir. D'Allesatelro is a man or many talents and in addition to his duties at New I Cumpshire College he is a member of the New II01111)- shire State Legislature. Mr. D'Allesatalro has had several experiences couching amateur basketball players over the season in international competition. and I mu informed in last year's Olympic games in Munich Mr. D'Allesandro couched Great iiritain's basketball team, is that corrett ? Mr. I YALLEst Noun. Yes. that is correct. Mr. O'lLtn.t. We would be pleased to hear your observation about the legislation before the committee and the problems that we have.

STATEMENT OF LOUIS D'ALLESANDRO, DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS, NEW HAMPSHIRE COLLEGE, MANCHESTER, N.H. Mr. D'Amstxotto. Mr. Chairman and distinguished members of the committee. I will give yon some tes'inionv stunmarizing an article I wrote on March 8, DM, concerning the NCAA versus AAU and after this I will comment from experience on the international level. Tuesday. March ti, was town meeting day in Derry. In the course of the town meeting, everyone in the town is brought together to try to provide direction for the next. year. was the date of another meeting held in Washington. D.C. At this meeting of the Special Education Committee, Congressman James O'Hara of Michigan asked questions about the conflict be- tween the Amateur Athletic Union and the National Collegiate Athle- tic Associat ion. Why does Congress have to spend its valuable time trying to iron out problems between two giant athletic organizations In the United States? This problem has been simmering for yearsthe basis of the problem is who has jurisdiction over athletics in the United States? It all came to a head last week when the NCAA refused to allow any of its athletes or roaches to participate in a series ofbasketball pines versus the Russian national basketball team. The Russian national team is to tour the United States with a series of games to be set up between the Russian and tuited States teams. It isn't too clear at the present time just what the situation is but as I 'read it, the Russians were invited by the AAU. According to the NCAA. they were not consulted beforehand, and as a result of this. they will not allow any of their athletes or roadies to !wow involved. 11110('11.01'8 otiietTE Naturally, this all sounds quite ridiculous. The Russians are send- ing their most outstanding group of basketball players, yet two large athletic associations in the United States can't get together on who !Pito play. 242

This is another indication of the bureaucracy of the I Tufted States. It appears to be very simpleone team visits from another country, we participate against them and vice verm. It has turned into a complex situation where the Congress of the United States now has to call special sessions to iron out these differ- ences. hope that a few people come to their senses and this will he straightened out. It is appalling to think that athletes from over 800 member institutions would not be allowed to participate against this Russian team on their tour of the United States. The person who suffers in this situation is the athlete. lie is being denied the right to compete. The "big boys" battle it out on the telephone and in their offices, while the athletes are forced out of the gyms without being given any real reason. When you hear this, you say to yourself, "With all of our modern technology, with everything the 20th century has produced, the one thing it has failed to do is to open up lines of communication bet weer people." Now. I got involved in international basketball 3 years ago, in l970, when I was contacted by the Basketball Federation of Great Britain and asked to help them prepare their basketball team for the 1972 Olympic games in Munich, Germany. It was the first time I heard of the world F.I.B.A.. the International Basketball Associa- tion, the first time I ever realized there was a basketball association of the. United States. When I went to Europe, I got so many contradictory reports from people there. "Why don't Americans send good athletes?" "Why won't good athletes compete!" "Why are your teams so poor when they come over here?" That is the general reaction of people around the world. This is disturbing to me, because as a citizen of the United States of America. I want the image of this country abroad to be the finest that we can produce. I have seen bands of athletes traveling around Europe calling themselves the "All Stars of the United States." "The United States All Star Team," playing in tournaments in Italy. playing in tourna- ments in Spain. being coached by some displaced American people, one person who is no longer a citizen of this country taking uncitizen- ship with a foreign country, and the people actually think that these are the "All Stars of America." This should nothappen. I have hail this year three visiting foreign coaches nt the college: one from France. and one from Belgium, and right now wehave one from Hungary, the first one ever to get out. They felt that in many in- sta tires They are cheated. They pay great sums of money to go to basket- ball games in Europe to see the American teams, the great American teams. and they don t see the players. This bothers me. I am very concerned about the student athlete. I am a member of the House of Representative inthe State of New Hamp- shire, and I sit on the State committee on education. I am on the athletic council for the State. I am one .of the athletic commissioners. This st wield athlete is extremely important to me. Yet. I think it is part of the educational experience for the student athlete to be exposed in as many ways as possible to real-lifesituations. Competing against the Russians is a fantastic real-life situation. Students athletes are be- ing (haled this, and I am not condemning NCAA or AMT, I thinkit. BEST COPYAVAILABLE is ludicrous thin. this problem has gone on, and on, and on,for such a long period of time. I have looked (vet. UR. 5623 and 56'24, anti ILind some reservutione in 11.1t. Mt4. 1 find souse reservations in 11.11. 5621 nit Ithink we need something. and C feel that. if it rant be handled by theparties involved then it has to be dealt with by the Congress of theUnited States. Mr. 01LUIA.Thank you very nun+, Mr. D'Allesandro. We appmciate your coming from New Hampshire to give us your testimony. Your experience and your testimony ispartielducly valu- able. The bells have nog for a quorum in the House. Mr. Cotyllos. any questions? Nit (1.mos. Not other than one observation. I appreciate the gentleman's testimony; it is direct and to thepoint so that even 1 understand it. I ant alittle concerned though as I hart' been fighting a battle for 5 years, and I think John has also,and Congressman Dent of Pennsylvania is very interested in fightingthe exportation of American copyrights stud technology. I sun glad you came buck after the basketballroaches situation, but the one observa- tion C would like to make at this time is that I agree with you. Ifeel perplexed and frustrated at this situation here in our hands.With all of the problems that come down to Washington. this is the last oneI expected down here. So 1 have to defer to my chairman and give my rolleagites a t !mitre to qttestion you. Mr. Mr. INN% any questions? Mr. Ht.nzn. Yes; you are in a WIT tough spot, I suppose,but. do you feel this arbitrary power that is beingexercised should be allowed to continue. forgetting the specific lack ofcommunication, do you think this arbitrary power situation should be attacked as well asthis con unimicat ions problem? Mr. D'Annammuo. Well, it is difficult to see power vested, orthis much power vested in the hands of one organization. I thinkthe history of America is that power should not be vested in one orga- nization but should be returned to the people. I use that cliche because it is one that is very familiar to you from American history.Hence I would say anything that detracts from the indiivdual's rights is infringement on his rights as a citizen, hence a denial of his civil rights. No matter how arbitrary this is. things like this should not continue. We have a right-to-know law. The right-to-know law became a very popular rliche, Now it is a matter of law in our State. I think it has application. Your can't deny a person his rights. Hedoes have rights. The individual has rights. That is what it is all about. Mr. Thank you. Mr. O'ItAttn. Mr. Benitez, any questions? Mr.BENITEZ.Yes, Mr. Chairman. Do you have any specific recommendations for amendment to bill 5623? Mr. D'Atit.ssANnno. I didn't. come down prepared to work on an amendment, but 5623 is much more acceptable to me than some of the items in ti624. I would have to look at. this quite closely to come up with, you know, an amendment. 2,44

Ale, BEN rm./. This is thionly oneI am limiting myself to, If you have any revommendat ismsconcerning623, will you kindly submit t hem to t hecommittee! Mr, )'.t Ct did illy. It would his n plennnre, Mr. 0' I IA DA. 1111111k .tk Ir. Ir.11esandro, Weart'going to snake that quorum, and will have to leave now, and the commit iv(' will now stand in adjournment. [Whereupon, at 12 ; pan, the hearing was adjourned, to recon- vene at the call of the Chair.

I The slibeonimittee later received the following:1 STATEoto NEWIIAM PM II 111K. MESE oritseur.stiNTATIvels, Hoven N CoMMITIKK, Concord, N.11., it pall 9, 1971 CoNOItEss orT t I II l'NITED Kr.vrtis. Mr..1AstKs (1, ANA, l'huirom, committee on Ettorotion and Ul., Washington. 11.1'. DEAK ComamsostAN : At the time I testified before your committee, I mentioned1 Doll on 011ientltotatit tolilt 5023. um euelosi nit the amendment for your considerntion, I have rend that the MIAA mut the AA!! have come a little closer together. It's lay opinion Hint this would never have hawind if it were not for the effort put forth by your committee. Sincetply yours. Units trAt.t.ENANnaa, Reprearntatire, !)lartel34.

AMENDMENT To 11.11.5023 11.1t. 5023 is amended by adding the following new sections. Sm. 1305. The President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports is author. Iced and directed to designate teams and individuals to represent the United States in Amateur International Athletic competition. 1800, The term "representing the United States" as used in section 1801. section 1302, and section 1303 means any team or individual designated as provided in section 1805. PROTECTION or COLLEGE ATHLETES

THURSDAY, MARCH 29, 1973 losE or REPREsENTATIVEs. S trn fa' t S tin ) at Nt MEE ON EMT ATtoN or Tt In ( %Matti-mg oN BUrATIoN AND 'Anon, Washington, U.C. The subcommittee met at imesnalit to recess, in room 225', !NOM' Vouse Mice Buildings Um. (r. Mitten (clutiloolt of the subcommittee) presiding. Present : Representatives 0' I laiv. Del lenback, and Peyser. Staff members present: A. C. Franklin, counsel; and I'hors Teets, clerk. 0'11.utA. The Special Subcommitteeon Education of the House Committee on Education and Labor willMane to order. Today is the sixth hearing concerning the AAITNAAjurisdic- tional eontroversies affecting the freedom of athletes andcoaches to participate as repmentatives of theInited States in international mom it ion. In the course of our hearings,we have already had the testimony of athletes. coaches. a college president, Members of Congress,rep- resentatives of the AAV and of the NCAA, representatives ofassocia- tions of the Nation's small colleges and universities and of junior colleges. officials of countrywideamateur sports organizations. and of other persons cinwerned about the well-being ofoar amateur athletes. Our first witness this morning is Mr. Warren Emery, athletic direc- tor of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif.,a member institution of the National Collegiate Athletic Association. At the same time. Mr. Emery servesas the president of the Southern Pacific Association of the Amateur Athletic Union. This combination of AAU and NCAA responsibilities inone man was called to my r f'nut ion as a unique situation and a reflection of his unbiased approach .cod his total dedication to amateur sports. Before he became the athletic director at Cal Tech. Mr. Emerywas the swimming and water polo coach at that school; he has been involved in amateur sports for more than 30 years. Mr. Emery, if you will please Nice a seat at the table, the committee will be very pleased to hear from you.

STATEMENT OP WARREN G. EMERY, DIRECTOR OP ATHLETICS, CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OP TECHNOLOGY, AND PRESIDENT, SOUTHERN PACIFIC ASSOCIATION, AMATEUR ATHLETIC UNION Mr. Estzuv. Thank Tai. I have givenmy statement, andwill read my statement for yon and then answer any questions that you might have. (243)

0.01,13 246 My comment on Ilowe Of Representatives bill 5023 is this: It is un- fortunate, but trite that the student-athletes of this country need the protection afforded by thislegislation.The derision of an athlete to participate in an athletic. event outside his college program of com- petition should rest with the athlete and his coach. They are hi the best position to evaluate the effect of that competition on his academie progress, athletic (weer, and the effect hisparticipation might have on his college team's success. Removal of the threat of penalty against athletes, conches, institutions could, have tire. stet effect of pushing the governing bodies toward cooperation in the formulation of policies affecting interna- tional competition. Comment on 11.11, 5024: If H.R. 569.:i is put into law, the need for a Federal Scholastic and AmateurSports Commission should eon- siderobly reduced. The reasons I feel this to be the case are as follows: 1. The main disagreement in amateur sports today is between n collegiate ,bodythe NCAAand a noneollegiate bodythe AMT. The stioptps most effeeted by this dlsiu are the college athletes at NCAA schools. If the athlete's eligibility for internationaleonmeti- tion is no longer an issue between the two governing bodies. there seems to he match less of a reason forcontinuedanimosity. 2.The NCAA and AAP have perhaps assumed too much of a pro- prietary attitude toward the athletes they are dedicated toservitr. Both organizations have much to accomplish if they are tofulfill their basic mission to these athletes. When they nolonger can with- hold eligibility for international competition from these athletes or punish their member clubs or institutions for permittingathletes to compete in such competition, they will, hopefully, turntheir energies toward the problems of providing broader programs ofcompetition, more complete utilization ofexisting facilities and staff. The other reasons I would recommend against H.R. 5024 are as follows 1. The establishment of it Federal commission whoserules will super- sede these of organizations holding membership in theexisting inter- national governing bodies of amateur sports wouldplace those orga- nizations in the position of having to oppose thecommission on the one hand or the international sports governing body onthe other. 2. A more productive involvement ofthe Government in the ad- ministration of amateur sports might to be establish anarbitration service to hear disputes as they arise in specific snorts,with binding decisions being developed. The Kheel arbitration board,which heard the dispute between the AAIT and NCAA in trackand field in 196M. was a step in the right dire-tion:but its decisions were not binding, so the disnute confirmed.Thank you. Mr. OlIAmt. Thank you very nitwit. Mr.Emery, for a very per- ceptive statement, it seems to me. I nm particularlyinterested in your suggestion that thecommittee might consider the establishment of an arbitration service to arbitrate dispnteswhich arise. I think that is a rather useful suggestion. I am not sure we areprepared to do it at this time, but it is an avenueof approach that has not been sug- gested to 115. I have rend the report of the Kiteelarbitrationpanel. I felt they made a definite contribution but, as youpoint out, their decision was neverput into effect, was it? 247

Mr. EMERY. Well, as Mr. nee! stated to the organizations in their final meeting, if they did not wilfully try to accomplish the purposes of that panel and follow the recommendation, that the decisions would be frustrated, and they were. The recommendations were frustrated because, while the AAII did accept theeKheel arbitration recommenda- tions, the NCAA did not, so the coordinating committee which was reconunended to settle disputes between the two organizations was never established and never had opportunity to function. My feeling is that something has to be done to bring the top level people together. Now, at the local level, I think there is far less of a problem. In the Southern Pacific Association of the AAU, college people and noneollege people, work cooperatively on the sports governing committees in practically every sport. In track and field, both the UCLA and USC track coaches are on the AAU track and field committee and participate in the decisionmaking eliding that sport. Several other college coaches are on that com- mittee. in swimming, the same thing is true, and so forth. Mr. 01 lAn.t. Do you have any knowledge of whether the same sort of cooperation in terms of local AAU and NCAA governing groups exist in other parts of the country as well as in southern California? Mr. EMERY. I think it does. We SIT, for instance, in Montana, a fellow high in the association is director of athletics at Eastern Montana. There has been less Involvement by college people in the AAU at the local level since 1902-65, when the federations were set up by the NCAA in gymnastics, basketball, wrestling, and track. Since that time, I think, college people have ken encouraged to stay out of the AAU's affairs. It does not affect a lot of the college people, because they realize that the college program alone, or school program alone, will not bring athletes to the, international level of performance. It takes additional training, additional competition, in the summers and in the off -seasons, and that is what the AAU or U.S. Volleyball Association, or any other sports organization brings to the college or school athletes. I think the coaches are more likely to be involved if they don't get pressure from their directors of athletics. That is what the status is at this point. Mr. 0911AnA. That is a very interesting observation. Mr. I)ellenback, any questions? Mr. butmmArtc. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are grateful for your coining. This is probably an icebreaking effort with such brief and direct and succinct testimony. Normally people never make two-page statements here; they make multipage statements. And we appreciate what. you have done in this particular" instance; it has been very help- ful. You know the bill we have, 5628, deals, in essence, with international coinlion. Because of your own background and your ties to the AAU and NCAA both, really it is of particular importance, as far as your position is concerned, you are in a position to see much more than others in international competition. Do we have the same kind of difficulty with national intercollegiate romprtition that we are faring right now which got us going here in the international competition ? Mr. Emma-. Well, not in track and field; since the Kheel arbitration report, I think there has been kind of it truce. Meet promoters 248 in track and field are net tinily in control of the track and field program as it relates to the national or top-level competitor. SO a meet promoter now must obtain the sanction of the AMT, the sanction of the U.S. Track and Field Federation, and the approval of the NCAA ite order to have the athletes registered with thoseor- ganizations in his meet. That the way 011 of the big indoor meets 110 ve been conducted. Mr. DELLioniswic. They go and ask specifically for approval of each of the associations'? Mr. 1..3now. Yes. What the NCAA says to member institutions: The athletes may not participate in these outside of the college competitions unless approved by the U.S. Track & Field Federation. You see, they make NCAA upproal contingent upon approval of the U.S. Trawl: and Field Federation, and the same is true of the other federations-- wrestling and so forth. So there is sort of an armed truce at that level. Mr. DELLExnAcK. At least in track and field there is littleor very little of intercollegiate or international problems? Mr. EmEnY. Yes: presently it has been going along reasonably well in that direction, but that does not menu that the problems could not arise tomorrow. Mr. DELLENRACK. Of course, our legislation would not go to that in 5623 IM'CillISP of the international situation. Mr. Emmy. flight. Mr. Dioixxit.u.K. You make a point that the decision of an athlete to participate outside of the college program should rest with the athlete and his coach. The arguments have been made by some who feel ditterentivt heir orpiment is: There needs to be some social group that looks at any proposed meet or competition or tournament to determine whether or not it is a fly -by -night operation or whether or not. it is a real. solid proposal. What would you do in tour particular channel of interest if there were no such restrictions of NCAA or any of the other organizations, AAU's requirements. no requirements. and a requestcame to one of Four athletes to participate and it was a meet 1011 really knew nothing about? How would you make a deter!.,mation of whether or not yon would let the athlete compete? Mr. EMERY. first of all, in competition between athletes of different nationsthere has to be an agency in this country that looks at the competition to determine that it isi not competition in which. the athletes are going to be exploited in some way or left stranded.its we have had boxers say, left in Mexico without the return fare in the old days, as the boxing people in southern California tellme. Somebody has to guarantee the competition will be condneted in a reasonable manner and that the conditions under whirl' the athlete travels and eats and trains will be adequate. But the final decisionas to whether or not the athlete should leave school at that time to par- tieipate would have to be made by the student, and it would depend a lot on t he time of the year. With the schools operating on semester systems, quart Pr systems and. interterm systems, there are gaps in then. in whiehnit athlete could travel on an international trio without endangering academic progress but, at other times, the athlete would simply have to refuse. 249

Many times, college athletes do refuse krause it is too close to final ex-umlaut ions. Mr. DELLENII.WK. Doesn't your testimony look at it from only one side rather than the Other SideIf you will go along with me. the agencies that now sanction do not say : "We have the right to tell an athlete that he must compete in his international eompetition." They are saying: "We say if you compete in a meet or competition that we have not :mullioned, the!! (WWII things will Ilappell to yolk" In other words, it is a negative, no additional cheek on top of it and not taking place as you say at all. What, 1 thought you just said, in effect, was: "Look, the student has to make his own decision." But he dot's not. Yon say the soliool has to make a decision whether or not it really fits and whether the student ought to compete. That is not really what the issue is. The issue is not whether or not the Student. and the institution should have a voice; the question is whether or not there should be somebody else with an addi- tional voice, saying: "If we have not approved this competition. you don't (late compete or there Will be yremssiotts." Mr. Emmy. Nly reaction to that is that an organization to which college institutions voluntarily joined or with which they associate does not have. or should not have, that. responsibility for u student's decision. I think it has to be pineal in the hands of the people who know whet her or not he should go. Now, the question of whether it is a fly-by-night situation. I think. has to rest on whether or not the organization in this country which is responsible for international amateur athletic relationships feels that the contest. or the trip is worthwhile, I don't think a governing body of college' athletics can say : "Yes, unless we sanction this event. Because what sources of information do they have that are better than the organization that is maintaining relationships with the other in- ternational governing bodies? Let us say arrangements for an intenuitional trip are made between the governing bodies and it is assumed on each end if it is going to be in East Germany. West Germany. or Italy, the governing body there has verified that this promotion is legitimate. It is not a fly-by- 11 igl It. operat ion. By the same token. the organization that is interested in bringing athletes of other countries to this country is interested in checking out the promoter and promotion to verify it. So there has to be some checking out. there is no question about it. I don't think it has to be done bv tot) ninny organizations. Mr..I 4:LLENHAra. You were saying you don't think there should be any associat ionif I read yon correctlyor organization that has a power beyond the Idete and his school to say: "Thou shalt not"? Mr. Emy. Yes, for the purpose of international competition, correct. Mr. 1.3.1.Eximea. So von want the control to rest with the student and the school. Should the school have the power or the athlete have tho power or should they have it together? Mr. EMERY. I t pink the school. SFr. DELLENBACK. You are willing that the athlete not have the solo voice? Mr. EMERY. Yes.

,e4)..1,'%1 250 Mr. 143.1.14sum.s. You don't want the solevoice, though, to go beyond the school? II v. EMMY. No; I don't want it to go beyond the school. Ithilik that the student knows what his progress is.He knows his leaving for 1 week will perhaps endanger his academic progressand that is the essential reason for his being in school, althoughit is hard to tell in many cases that it is. So. once the student determines he is therefor an education, he should he able to tell whether or not it is a goodtime to leave. I would like to point out that invitations arecoming all the time during the school year to this country and are beingchanneled by existing governing bodies to the schools, where decisions are some- times made by the coach, with the athlete neverknowing that the invitation even came, because the coach says, "Well, it is abad time; our season is on; and that is all thereis to it." The coach notifies the people that issued the invitation lie can't come. Australia, you sae, being in the other hemisphere, has ahabit of issuing invitations for people to come during their season,which is not our season necessarily, and maybe our athletes are moreinvolved in school than during the summer, and they get aninvitation during a time that is inappropriate.The decision should rest with the local school. When von say "school," we really have to define who. Thepresident? No; he is not in a position to know if the student shouldleave or not atilia time, but his faculty adviser would be in a position to know whether he should leave. Mr. DELLENBACK. I don't know we ought to belegislatingnow we are within the school, and we arewilling to say only, "Somewhere within the school?" Mr. Emmy. Somewhere within the school. DELLENDACK. Your recommendation is: It should be the indi- vidual school, the athlete alone but it should be the athlete in conjunction with some people within the school itself but, beyond that there should be nobody who should say they can'tparticipate/ Mr. EMERY. Correct. Mr. Dm.t.ssuAcic. But there should be somebody beyond that, some organization, that investigates and makes a recommendation? Mr. EMERY. Yes; that would make sure that competition is reason- able and it is going to be conducted under appropriate conditions. Mr. Diwom.tex. You feel if we enact legislation somethinglike 5623 that we will take the pressure oil of what would stillbe competi- tion outside in the way of investigating and making recommendations, whether it be the NCAA or whethl it mike Track and Field Associa- tion or the AMY' or wiluemr it will be, there will still be somebody out there but you would lean to the school the choice of whose mom- mendation it leans toward a Id. it there were two or three organizations investigating and they make different recommendations, then it would still be up to the school and athlete again to determine which of the recommendations they would bale their decision upon, is that correct? Mr. EMMY. Yes:would hope that there would be only one orga- nization per sport doing this verification in this case. Mr. DP.I.LENBACK. The problem right now is, in some of the sports, there is not just only one organization per sport but multiple organiza- 251 tions per sport, and that is the gravamen of the problem to a degree; they are lighting to be the organizationthe organizationand, un- fortunately, as the chairman has put it a number of timesand 1 uni inclined to agree with himthe athlete is the pawn in the operation. While they struggle out hereand I don't mean to attack them as individuals, because the people I met and dealt with on these things seem to be very capable and sincere peoplewhatevertheir struggle is to determine winch one is going to be the organization that makes the decision, the person that gets caught in that crack, in the bite of the line, is the athlete. lie may want to participate, but he can't. Mr. E311:1:Y. That is exactly right. That is why I feel this legislation is appropriate. Mr. DELLENOACIi. We won't bring you into the mechanics of the leg- islation. The question has been raised about whether it will do the trick in advance or whether you should wait until after the thing had taken place and then you have a threat to use it afterward, and the question is whether postevent punishment will give rise to the pre-eventaction that you hope for, and that is a problem for us to wrestle with on the committee. From your standpoint of dealing and living with this, you mum out squarely on the basis of the decision's ultimately being made by the institution; you would not do away with outside organizations' recommending but not give them the power to override the decision of the school and student athlete? Mr. EMERY. Absolutely not Mr. 011AnA. Mr. Peyser. Mr. PHYSER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Emery, we are delighted to have your testimony here, and I am also pleased to hear what you said in answering questions of Congress- man Dellenhack in dealing with the penalty situation. I think we are all in agreement on that issue. At least this morning we are all in agree- ment. We have got to be that way every day; we don't think the penalty rights should not exist. As I read and listened to your testimony, it seems that you predicate a great deal of your, let us say, report on 5623 on the paragraph that says : Itemoval of the threat of penalty against athletes, couches, and lastitallons could have the net effect of pushing these organisations together. And I assume you refer to NCAA and AMT. Is that correct? r. Enver. 1 es. Plirsza. OK. Now, this is where we differ, because I think the long experience of years and years of mediating by some tremendously important and capable people to bring these organizations together has resulted in a deliberate action by one of the organizations to push themselves further apart. Now, I am sure you are familiar with this but, just for time record, I will bring it out. Are you familiar with the application that the NCAA sends to a person lor AAU for sanctioning a meet, question 18 on the application? Question 181 by numberand I wouldn't expect you to know the numberquest on 18 specifically asks if they have received the endorsement and appmval of the US.rFF. Now, do you know what the MVP is basically created for? lint, as fiu. as I am concerned, it is merely an arm of the NCAA. It Was 20- 720--- T4-17 r* - 252 created as a direct opposition to the AAU. This is really what it is competing withwith AAUbreause they are covering thatarea and, if the NCAA, in its printed formal application, says to the AAU, "We first want approval and the statement that you have asked this competitor organization that we have created for their approval," do 3rou really think that is an indication they are working together, or do you think the NCAA is willing to say, "tTSTFI", forget it; we don't want any part of you; 5623 has been enacted and we are ready to push you off the deep end and don't think you were over in existence"? Do you think that should happen Mr. EMERY. I think one of the primary levers of NCAAand AAU, too, although talking about student athletesand the AAU doesn't presume to control those in the same way as nonstudent athletesI think one of the primary levers is the threat of removal of fir `her eligibility in collegiate competition if you do this. I would just like to see the Government's involvement proceed perhaps one step at a time; let us remove the threat of this penalty, because it has been one of the primary leversor clubs held over the heads of the athletes and the institutions, and then letus see what will happen. We can always enact the next step. Mr. PETREL That may be years from now. Mr. EMERY. No. Mr. PEYSER. It is not going to happen quickly. I can tell you, ifwe enact legislation today: you are not going to see, next year or 1975 or 1970, another such thing as this developing. We will say : "Well, we have taken this action; let us give them 3 or 4 or 5 years or more." And I am just telling you the practical application of it, that to get this stirred up again this way, it is going to be very difficult. I am wondering why we are,, in effect, trying to treat with kid gloves at this point two organizations that have been absolutely devoid of any feeling when it came to penalizing an athlete or an institution as to what effect it had on his future or the institution's future and suddenly feel that all we have to do is put this particular penalty threat in. I say it is a threat and, in reading 5623and you recognize that the ultimate decision there rests with the courtsthat is, in 5623it rests with the courts, not with anyone else. They have to go to court. Then it is subjectand there is no guarantee in a court what the decision will be, and that is why you have a court. If it was just open and shut under this, there would be no purpose one way or another. But there has to be a decision reached at that time. I wonder, if a situation developed, whether you would find colleges ready to jump in or individual athletes oven ready to jump in andgo to court if the NCAA or AAU took an action that they felt was violat. in5023. They then would have to go to court. Now,I am not so sure that either schools or individual athletes are ready to either Put up with the expense of that operation, the risk of the operation, and willing to go to court to do it. Mr. O'HARA. Will the gentleman yield at that point? Mr. Ptlymzu. Yes, sir. Mr. Mum. Under the enforcement mechanism for the legislation you have referred to, H.R. 5628it is found in section 1804 and 1804 253 (a)--provides a penalty for willful violation ofthe act; that is, de- claring ineligible for further competition it studentathlete because of the student. athlete's participation in representing the country. You don't go to court. If you wish to see this penaltyimposed, the proper course would be for a personhaving knowledge of such a violation to contact the U.S. attorney for the district HIWI 'HI the violation occurred, or what have you, or any district inwhich juris- diction over the case would he shown, and the school orthe athlete would not be in court, but the U.S. attorney would be in court. Now, you get that in 1304(a) and in 1304(b)thedistrict court shall have jurisdiction for cause shown to restrain violations. Again, the procedure would be that prior to the violation,if there were a threatened violation, againthe school or the athlete would go to the U.S. attorney and ask the U.S. attorney to seek aninjunction to restrain t be violation. We can, of course, change it. I just want to point out, youknow, it is not up to the court; the only tiling up to the court is to enforcethe law. So the only thing here before the court is not the question of what to do, but it is a question of a factual matter: "Has a violation oc- curred ?" and "Yes" or "No" or "Is one about to occur?" and"Yes" or Mr. PEYsEn. I think it is the decision of the court. As I say, you are correct in clarifying the point on how it would go to court.I think we have a perfect example in what has justhappened in the Richmond meet. On Wednesday, I believe, or Thursday, finally, the court ren- dered a decision; that is, the day before the meet, and tt day before the meet the fart that an injunctiontemporary injunction. inci- dentallywas put down, in no way allowed the athletes, who were supposed to be served by the injunction, to compete. lie day before the meet. you can't bring an athlete in and get him ready to compete the next day. There is nothing in here that prevents the NCAA or any other organization front taking their action 3days before a meet er '2 days before a meet. In that kind of instance,the fact of whether he goes to the district court or not is not going tolet the athlete compete. I wonder if I can te,k : In your experience, Mr. Emery, since you have been in this field it great deal certainly, are there anysubtle means that are not really quite it directapplication, such as declar- ing ineligibility are there any subtlelneausthe organizations have such as the NCAAof bringing pressure to bear on an institution? Let me cite a few I can think of, and I would like to have your com- ments. I guess the most obvious is the recruiting violations.Now, there have been recruiting violations existing in schools, according to the regulations, by the score, and most of them are not evercalledup for action, even though the regulations of the NCAA and competingcol- leges would allow them to be called up. inn wondering if we are not tuttingthe NCAA to have another tool here if we take this one way and say : "Well, you are going totake that action; that is tine. You have your legal right to go ahead,and now we are going to look and see. Whatabout that boy you brought in last year that we didn't raise a question on ?" There have, been so many of these cases that never came up, and occasionally one comes up, and we had testimony yesterday citing case

6 . '254 after ease where the NVA A hadgone after schools and specific athletes, and it isa matter of the record yesterday where they wanted to get violations on recruiting, where they could get them in dozens of other schools as well but hada particular reason to go where they went. Mr. EMERY. Let me respond toyour separate questions. As far as the subtle meansare concerned, recruiting violations gen- erally are initiated by opposing schools. In other words, theNCAA oflice does have an investigative staff, but theyare not called into it until someone callsa violation to their attention. That is done by a rival who was recruiting thatsame athlete and lost. They say : Well, they must have given himmore thou we offered; we know what we offered, so they obviouslyare in violation of the rules. So that is the way theyare brought to their attention, and once the investigation gets started, ofcourse, you know, everything is generally brought out. lint this is somewhat theway violations are brought to the attention of tho registration committee inthe AAU, because none of these orga- nizationsand AAIT is staffed mainly by volunteers,I Wail over the country. The NCAA hasa far larger professional staff and more money to operate with than AAU, but violations of rulesare brought to the attentionfrom the grassroots level by somebody whonotices it and brings it to the attentionor, in some cases, the violation is rather obvious, and then the registration committee mightinitiate the act ion. 1 don't think there would be that kind of subtlepressure. There might be other ways in which NCAA could easily gain thesame thing they now gain by policy, by established rules and such. Mr. Pursza. 1 [ow is that ? Mr. EMERY. Well, perhaps not putting schoolson television in the football series. pleatis a fairly important place to be. If you are not there and if you are one of the schools that perhaps haspermitted athletes to compete in meets thatare not approved, by NCAA, maybe they could keep you out of it. There isa television committee, and they pretty much decide oil a system of rotationas to the schools that get into that program. There are other pressures that probably could be broughtto bear. The handy Williams example at ITSC--he qualified for theRichmond Meet, and his coach and ho both indicated hewas going to come. lie didn't come. At the last minute, he said liewas told by his coach that it would be better if he did not. Therewas no direct threat so far as you can determine; nevertheless, he didn't showup and was the No. 1 long jumper and certainly hurt the effectiveness of the American team. This kind of thing could still be carriedon. I think once you really remove the threatand You see the reason Randy Williams' conch said, "You better not got"is: They had undoubtedly been told by NCAA, "You had better mi let him go." And that is what I think this piece of legislation-5623doesremove. Now, the athletes who got the injunctive relief that is the first time, I think, an athlete had ever taken that course; andnow that the precedent has been set, I don't think athletesor their coaches will be reluetant to take it. I think they have learned by this action, if it is 255 sustainedand there is going to bea hearing later on for permanent injunctive relief,so I think that is going to help. Mr. l'evseit. I think it is also going to bea question of what happens to a school in relationship to future relations with NCAA;they will also watch"Will they 1w cut outor subsequently eliminated from I" as you just indicated, and I think that is an important part of it. Mr. Enettv. In response toyour previous question about whether or not this legislation to establish the commission is really not needed along with the removal of the threat, I hope somethingcan be done. If that is needed, if that is the final approachthat is needed, then I am for it. I would like to see, if it is possible, thatan arbitration board is estab- lished to which these dispntes simply hadto be brought and that their decision would be binding and that would beit.. Maybe this commission is the arbitration board but,as I read the bill, the commission really has a right to establish rules. Mr. NYSE% Well, if I might interruptat that point, you are right on that, and we are making a change in that particular regulation. It would MHO onpage 3, and it would be in title IV, under section 8, and what we are suggesting is that rules and regulationsas used in sec- tion 6 shall not be construedas to conflict with any rules and regula- tions of the International Olympic Committeeor any other interne. t ional unwell!. governing body. In other words, we think your point is well taken there, andwe have had this raised previously, andso we are correcting that error so that it would not, in effect, do something in conflictwith any international body. So I hope that will satisfyyou. ltr. EMERY. Yes, that wouldgo a long ways. I think what we would see is the situationas I have indicated in the second paragraph,or first paragraph, of the reasons, on the secondpage, which is that you would find governing bodies between the Deviland the deep blue sea, especially when it comes toa question of amateurs. One of the great questions in amateur sports is: "Who isan ama- teur?" and "Whatare the Europeans doing?" and "What are we do- ing?" This debate goes back and forth. Wesay they are better off than we are, and the Europeans say, "Yes, but nowhere elsecan you get it free education based on vow' athletic ability except in the United States." And athletes come here from allover the world to do just that. That debate is a separateone and needs to be faced up to. If that commission were limited in itsarea of jurisdiction, I would not object to it, because I think something has to be done at thetop level because, at the local level, Ican see it working, and in our district I can see cooperation; I know it can exist between people. You can't label people and say, "That is theway they are going to act and think." They don't do it that way. Mr. PEYSER. Thank you, and thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you, Mr. Emery. I found your testimonyvery helpful. An element of the dispute we have been hearing about regarding the coming tour of the Soviet basketball teamcan be traced to the organization our next witness represents. The YMCA. is responsible for inventing the game of basketball. That organization is alsore- sonsible in large part for the spread of thegame throughout the world. 256 Mr. Lloyd Arnold is national director, health and physical educa- tion, National Council of the Young Men's Christian Associations of the United States. When he read of this subcommittee's proposed hear- ings beginning on March 5, he immediately wrote and offered his help. Mr. Arnold, please take a place at the witness table, and we will be pleased to hear from you. STATEMENT OF LLOYD ARNOLD, NATIONAL DIRECTOR, HEALTH AND PHYSICAL EDUCATION, NATIONAL COUNCIL OF THE YOUNG MEN'S CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES Mr. Amu). Thank you, Mr. O'Hara and gentlemen. I am sorry I do not have a written statement. I will get that to you, but I have been on the road and didn't have copies of the bills until late last evening. Before I begin to comment directly on the bills, I would like to give you some additional information about the YMCA because Ithink it represents an element to the problem that we are really not considering as we look at the bills. As I understand it, the bills are primarily aimed at the dispute be- tween the AAU and NCAA, but I represent anorganization which is equally as large in terms of the total impact on athletes in this country. There are 1,800 YMCA institutions. Over 7 million persons are in our constituency. During the past year, we had over 60,000 athletic teams enrolling_fi89,000-plus athletes. The YMCA has been conducting national championships in 14 dif- ferent sports for men and women since 1923. We established our first regulations for amateur competition in 1925. Recently, in 1968, we revised our standards for athletic amateur standing, and we believe that we have taken into consideration the modern approach to what an amateur athlete is. An amateur, according to oar standard, is anyone who is not paid to participate in a particular sport. A professionalbasketball player can participate with YMCA'ii in any sportexcept basketball. So we have a freedom of movement in an area which we think is the way of the future. You mentioned the fact that the YMCA has been creative in the development of basketball, in the spread of basketball; and the same is also true of volleyball, which is also an international and Olympic sport. The YMCA, over the years, has sponsored national competition between YMCA's ,in other countries and in this country. We have YMCA's in over 80 countries. The YMCA is a place where many of our high school and collegiate andinternational caliber athletes get their start. Recently, an Olympic official in aquatics told me that over 80 per- cent of the recent 11.S. Olympic swimming team, men and women, got their beginning in YMCA. competition. I need to emphasize that over 30 percent of our people are women and girls. In the dispute, primarily in basketball between NCAA and AAU, the YMCA has seen itself as a neutral party. We don't really belong to either organization. We collaborate and cuoperate with both. We

,s. t 257 attend their meetings. Weare also active with the Olympic Commit. tee and have representativeson the Olympic Games Committee. As the basketball situationwas developing, I was involved in the original meeting to restructurethe basketball federation. Therewas a followup meeting. An invitation came tome, and I mailed a letter at that time dated December 4, which I wouldlike to quote a portion of to you It you MI. poe.11, I called to the attentionof the group meeting at Springfield College last snout:* that therewere some United States basketball organizations which were not included in your letter ofinvitation. And refers to the first meeting. At that time, it was mentioned thiswas an oversight and there would be no objection to an invitation beingextended to them. It is my understanding from the briefconversations that I have had that invitations to the December 6 and 7 NewYork meeting were not issued to the NAIA, Armed Forces, National Parks andRecreation, CYO, JWB, and AAU. I am convinced that decisions whichare made regarding basketball by a group which does not include the above-mentioned cannotsignificantly represent basketball interests in this countryand would not and could not be accepted. I would encourage you to broaden thebase of your invitation no all could be included. I am further convinced that an organizationwhich is representative of the basketball interests for the United Statesmust be operated on a premise that all are equal and voting privileges shouldbe developed so that each concern would have equal stature. Voting privilegesbased on financial resources would present obvious problems. Now, as a result of that meetingwhichI did not attend because of my objections to the invitationtherewas a constitution developed, and the proposed annual membershipfor an active member was set at $500. Now, obviously, because of the variouskinds of sports which the YMCA participates in,we cannot get involved in a federation at that level of funding. But that is onlypart of the problem. Further, there is provision for active org,anitionsget additional voting representation by payingrn additional fee of $2,000 per dele- gate or representative up toa maximum of four, or they could con- ceivably have five representatives. So you can see that the strength andpower of that organization is really based, to a large extent,on the financial resources available. The constitution also allows for additionalassessments of active members to meet budget requirements. The YMCA, in closed competitionandby "closed competition," I refer to competition just between YMCA organizationsand members, between its different units and brancheshasbeen a self-governing, autonomous organization, and, I might add, withagreat deal of suc- cess and very little conflict, even though each local YMCAmaintains its own autonomy. However, the YMCA is beginning to feel the resultsof rules and regulations which are passed by other organizationswhich, in essence, govern and control activities of athletes beyond the confines of that organization's competitiveseason, essentially infringing on the ath- lete's freedom to decide how he will spend his free time. From that standpoint, I support the bill H.R.5628 to amend the Higher Education Act to protect the freedom ofstudent athletes and their coaches to participate as representatives ofthe United States in

"ti" or.t, 258 amateur international athletic events;however, I would question whether it goes far enough when it limits itsapplication to inter- national events. I submit that internationalathletic amateur events are only the visible portionof the iceberg. In reference to H.R. 5024., I would raise thefollowing kinds of ques- tions for your consideration, and you havediscussed some of them. What effect will such a commission have onvoluntary sports organi- zations such as the YMCA, especially as it relates toclosed competition or competition between its ownunits and athletes? Will the local and national autonomy anddecisionmaking powers of the YMCA be lost ? Seconds in the realm of international competition,is it proper or even possible for such acommission to make rules which relate to inter- national competition for this Nation's athletes?Attempts in the past to foist rules on international groups haveled to confusion, disillusion- ment, and inability of our athletes to competeat an international caliber event. Third, is it possible for a commission of five and anadvisory council of eight to adequately represent the United Statesin the international sports scene from the standpoint oftime, understanding, and ability? I believe if we can deal realisticallywith these major questions, we will be taking a giant step forward. I sup.purt strongly the other functions ofthe commission, including protection and promotion ofinterests of amateur athletes in the United States engaging in internationalcompetition, providing for rules and regulations which improve coordinationbetween amateur organizations, promotion of friendly international amateurathle.ic competition among nations, and, even more important from mystand- point, between athletes, and to study factorswhich relate to health i.nd safety. I also support the function of preparing andsubmitting a yearly report which would include appraisal,statistical analysis, long-term projection, evaluation of observance of rules, summary ofproblems, and compilation of issues and other pertinentinformation. Finally, let me suggest once again that theinternational aspect of this problem, although important, really affects a ve7 small percent- age of our athletes and isonly a portion of the total pro lem. Mr. O'HAnA. Thank you very much: Mr. Arnold. The reasons we have proposed legislation to theinternational com- petitionare, of course, twofold ---or e is because that seems tobe the sorest point certainly at the moment second,because that gives us some definable limits withinwhich the legislation shall operate, and it does not require us to get into it complete review ofall of the differ- ent aspects of this problem as relates not only tointernational competi- tion but domestic competition. I think you are right ;think the problem is much larger than inter national competition. But the question that I tried toface, and others on the committee, is this s Should ,ve now stopand delay ally action until we have made a thoroughgoing review of all aspectsof the amateur sports scene and then try to cma comprehensive pieceof legislation that might meet all of the prthuinis, or should we goahead and take care of this one prominent problem, one very ilifficultand prominent problem, and then perhaps return to the subject anddo a more extensive thing, take a moreextensive look at it ?

1.)k, e*, 259 My own feeling is to go ahead with the more limited approach first and then, as we learn more, perhaps try to domore. That is just by way of explanation of why the approachas we did it, and I don't suppose you quarrel especially with that. Mr. Amoco. No; I don't. Mr. O'HAmt. I am certainly impressed with the YMCA's activities in this field. I know of the great contributions the YMCA has made to amateur athletics in the United States in many fields, particularly those you mentioned and particularly swimming in addition to those you mentioned. I think that we ought to look at the broader problems, too, and I appreciate your comments in that regard. Mr. Dellenback, any questions? Mr. DELLENBACK. Mr. Chairman. Thank you. We do appreciate your coming here, Mr. Arnold, and givingus the benefit of your testimony, and we will be covering whatyou covered, and this has been taken down by the reporter and it won't-benecessary for you to duplicate yourown efforts; butt if there is anything else you would like to add to what you said this morning, I am sure we would welcome it and it would be made part of the record. Werecog- nize the time pressures on yourself, and we do thankyou for your giv- ing us this time. Now as to the basic questioning that was put to Mr. Emery, which you heard and which I would ask of you : Would you agreehaving dealt with young men and women alike, would it beyour feeling that, when it comes to participating in international athletics, the decision as to whether or not a young person or an older person, an athlete, can participate, can soundly be left to the athlete and maybe the coach of the athletic group to which the youngperson or the athlete belongs, or should there be an outside organization which would have the power and right to say : "No, you cannot participate in this particularama- teur competition without certain repercussions"? Mr. AnNow. Well, I disagree with Dr. Emery at that point. I think essentially it needs to be the individual's decision. He certainly should seek the counsel and advice of the coach and school officials, but it seems to me that needs to be an individual's decision and should not be a reflection of his organization or his school's thinking. Mr. DELL19NBAOK. You went one step further than Mr. Emery went, because Mr. Emery, as I read his testimony, said, in effect, this: The athlete has to influence the decision and, if the athlete is part of a school team, then somebody in the school, whether it is the president or athletic director or counselor or coach, somebody there somebody in the institution also has a voice in the particular position, but he then drew the line there and said there should not bean outside organi- zationNCAA or AAU or anybody elsean organization which would have the power to say : "she can'tor he can't compete." Are you saying you would agree with Mr. Emery under those cir- cumstances as to what he said or would you believe the decision should be left even further to the individual and say: If, in the middle ofa basketball season, the star center was invited to compete in Australia and he said, "I am going to go and compete in Australia," that the school should not have any decision, the school he belonged to, they should have no voice in that'? 90-796 0.44-46 cl 260 Mr. ARNOLD. Obviously they have a voice, but I don't think they should have control. Mr. AMLNNBACK. If the athlete wants to go off and do it, he should be able to do it without being censured by the school V Mr. ARNOLD. Well, he would be censured, I am sure. He would lose his spot on the team, and that probably would be part of the advice the coach would give him; but, you know, it seems to me he needs to have that ability to make that decision. Mr. DEW:SHACK. Would you penalize the school if they took him off of the team under those circumstances? Mr. ARNOLD. No I wouldn't. Mr. DELLENBACK. Do you think we ought to do this? You see, under 5623, the proposed legislation, we say or propose to say, in essence: If an athlete competes in international competition, then he can't be declared ineligible or there cant be repercusiion insofar as inter- collegiate competitions; it works both ways. They can't say he can't compete and if he does compete they . an't say : "This is going to happen to you domestically." They can't withdraw or suspend the eligibility of an athlete to compete in any intercollegiate athletic events also, and would you give the school the right to say that "In our school, if you drop out in the middle of the season, when we are driving for the championship, we are not going to let you compete in basketball any more" r Would- you say the school should not have that power? Mr. ARNOLD. No; I would give them that power. Mr. DELLENBACK. So you feel the school should have some sanction, then? Mr. ARNOLD. Yes; when you use the word "sanction," I rebel against that.. Mr. DELLENBACK. Should they be able to say : "Certain things will follow as a consequence of this act"? Mr. O'HARA. Will the gentleman yield Mr. DELLENBACK Of course. Mr. O'HARA. It seems to me every team I ever heard of had rules and, if a student or if a member of the team didn't show up for the game or even missed a practice, he would be subject tosuspension from the team. Mr. ARNOLD. Yes; and that is the coach's decision. Mr. O'HARA. Yea; the coach's decisionor even subject tobeing thrown off the team, not for having participated, say, in an interna- tional event but just having violated the team rules and not being available to play in a particular game. Mr. ARNOLD. It is drawing a rather fine line, but I do think thereis a difference, you know, between givingthat authority to the school and tying the decision in with the team and his contribution to that team. DELLENBACK. Following your statement that you disagreewith Mr. Emery, because, if I listened to Mr. Emery's testimonycorrectly and if I understand your testimony correctly, you are notreally very far apart at all, you are saying substantially the same thing,that the AAU or NCAA or someplace else of this nature should nothave power to say certain things. And, while we talkand Mr. O'Hara and Mr.Peyser will have a chance to talk later in committeebut whether wecall it a rule that is violated or call it something else, substantially theresult is the same; they say : "If you do something we don't want you todo, whether we

''r4 261 get you directly because you competed internationally or wherever you were, whether at home sleeping or competing internationally, you were not there at the game and therefore we say certain things follow." The testimony that Mr. Emery gave is to the effect that neither you nor the NCAA have any such situation at all. Mr. ARNOLD. We do not support that. Mr. DELLENDACK. But you would support the athlete and school somehow having an impact I Mr. ARNOLD. Right. Mr. DELLS:MACK. And that is the distinction and that is the concern for which we are trying to find a remedy and trying to be of help for the athlete's sake, which is really what it is all about. We want to be sure the person involved, the young woman or man, is given freedom to participate without this kind of arbitrary decision being made out- side, and we are afraid it is too often made for extraneous reasons and it is not really for the welfare of the athlete. If the decision is made for the welfare of the athlete, that is one thing, but a decision made ostensibly for the athlete but perhaps for some other reason is something we are trying to get into and make sure it does not run amuck to the detriment of the athlete, and I am sure that is what you essentially agree with. Mr. ARNOLD. I do. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Peyser. Mr. PEYSER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I certainly welcome your testimony and fully recognize the great job that the YMCA has done in this area of sports for the young men and women throughout the country. I guess I would like to answer your questions. You presented a couple of questions : One, the effect of the YMCA on the local committee would be absolutely nothing, there would be no effect, there would not be a loss of authority under my bill or, for that matter, 5628, in their own actions; and, secondly, on the international complications by try- ing to test rules, I believe you heard of the additions we have made to my proposed legislation here which I think very clearly answers that it would not be that problem. Thirdly, the question of committee size, we are open to evaluating that and seeing what is realistic and how that should be handled. The important thing on that committee is understanding really that the committee is aimed primarily and purely at defining the participation in international eventsparticipationin other words, we are not putting NCAA or AAU or anybody else out of business, but we are just reserving that right of participation so we don't get into the situa- tion we have seen take place time and time in over the years. So I really appreciate your testimony, and I have no questions. I just wanted to answer those you had asked me. If you want to respond now in any way, please do. Mr. ARNOLD. Let me just emphasize the point I was trying to make; that is, in the field of athletics, there is so much enthusiasm coming from people who are volunteers essentially, and there is a large work force there which represents our country and puts much laborinto the administration of athletics. That kind of grouping, that kind of citizen contribution, that kind of a activity I don't see being picked up in this function. I guess 262 what you were saying to me is that it would still be there, and that 'would help me. Mr. DELLENBACK. Will you yield I Mr. PEYSER. Yea. Mr. DraLzraktex. There is always the danger in this kind of thing that, as we ask you questions, we will really be quarreling less with you than trying to make the case that really exists among members of the committee. I would just say to my colleague Mr. Peyser, and also to you, Mr. Arnold, at this time, that one of the things that does worry me at this stageand I don't mean my mind is made up at all on 5624but one of the things that worries me about the 5624 approach and the 5628 approach is not there is a problem going into them but, if 'we tt to get the Federal Government in as deeply as 5624 would take them into this whole field, we would do exactly what you saywe would be preempting the field to such a degree that we 'would kill off, with a handful of people, five neople on one group and eight people on another group, the real d ons that just are made by hundreds of people. If you take the AAU and break it down into its 19-plus individual committees, there are literally, throughout the country, thousands of people who are involved in the whole process, and it is much of that that I don't think we suddenly should have the Federal Government try to take over. If we can, through a relatively simple approach of 5628, break loose abuse of a part of the picture, we will have made a long step forward. And it seems that you are saying that, and if this is what you say, I am in agreement with you, that there is risk in the broad-scale ap- proach that we would so preempt the field that much of this great voluntary involvement, which is the heart of the YMCA, could be placed in jeopardy. Do I read you correctly I Is that what you say? Mr. ARNOLD. Partially. I agree with the functions as described in the bill. I just question whether the apparatus is there to carry them out essentially. Mr. PEYSER. I think what has just been expressed by Mr. Dellen- back is where perhaps a difference in understanding of what the legis- lation does exist, because at no point in this legislation is it contended that any of the groups would seek this in any of their functions; I mean I think the bill specifically states that. Now, if this is going into the theory that Mr. Dellenback may be taking"Well, we let the Federal Government get into this one area, and then they may try to get into other areas later on"I would say is could happen under 5628 as well as under 5624, and I guess my feeling is: I want to stop the idea of the courts being involved and injunction proceedings and all of these other things inherent in 5628 as a "must" action and simply resolve the fact that our best athletes, regardless of what organizations they belong to, as long as they qualify for the amateur standing, can compete, or the best American athletes can compete internationally. That is the only aim. Thank you very much for your testimony. Mr. OrilAzt. Thank you, Mr. Peyser. And thank you, Mr. Arnold. We enjoyed having you. Our last witness this morning is Mr. Peter Oliver of Arthur D. Little, Inc., Cambridge, Mass. We viill*delighted to hear from you. A .1 263

STATEMENT OF PETER OLIVER, ARTHUR D. LITTLE, INC Mr. OLIVER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would first like to say that General Gavin, who was asked to appear here today, asked me to express his regrets that he could not appear personally. He asked me to appear in his stead. I will ask your forgiveness if I make any errors in my presentation, since thisis thefirstcongressional hearing in which I have participated. First of all, in the way of background, I would like to explain why we were asked and why we volunteered to appear today. I think it stems from two major studies that we conducted in the mid-1960's, the first for the U.S. Olympic Committee, a. project with a budget of $150,000, the purpose of which was to study therganiza- tion and policies of theU.S..S. Olympic Committee itself and to review the performances of our athletes and the development plans of each of the 30 Olympic and Pan-American sports in the United States in the interest of advising what might be done to improve our performance in those sports. I might also add that by virtue of the complexity of the task and our underestimation of what it would take, we over 'an our budget by $30,000, thus we contributed $80,000 unintentionally to the project so that total was $180.000 worth of consulting effort and expenses. At the time we did that study for the Olympic Committee (com- pleted by the way in 1965), we also were commissioned by President Johnson at the request of Bob Kennedy to study whether there was a need for Federal assistance, support, and recognition of amateur sports, and to determine, if the answer was in the affirmative, what form that support should take. That study was funded in the amount of $50,000, half from Peter Fuller, chairman of the Fuller Foundation, and half a contribution of our time as a. public service. The reason we are here today is that we turned in a positive report to President Johnson in January 1985, and we have the desire (again, in the public interest, as a public service) to see that report implemented. We have been working since January 1965 behind the scenes, both at the White House and now in Congress, to see that some legislation is passed to implement the findings of our report to President Johnson. As for my involvement, I had the opportunity to participate in both of those studies by virtue of my interest and continuing participation in amateur sports. I have been a behind-the-scenes guy who has been borrowing time from other projects to try to achieve implementation of our report to President Johnson. I mightmight also say that I have had the opportunity this past week to talk to staff of all of the Congressmen who have submitted bills, with the exception of Mr. Dellenbe.ck. These discussions included four bills that have already been presented or are about to be presented to Congress. What I would like to do today is to review each of those bills with your permission and discuss the pros and cons. I would like to first summarize my conclusions and tell you what I hope to convince you of here. 264 First of all, I want to say thatyou have identified a very grave problem and I want tosay that we appreciate, and I think the athletes particularly appreciate, the fact thatyou are taking your valuable time to address yourselves to the problem. I wantto tell you that we at ADL think that this issue is deserving ofyour time although it is very valuable. The dispute between the NCAA and the AAU is nota recent prob- lem, as you probably know. It has been goingon in various forms since 1920 when it first surfaced. There has only beenore brief lull, during World War II when the Olympicgames were temporarily suspended. The problem is that the public-at-large only thinks there is a problem every 4 years around the Olympic games because that is when it usually surfaces, and that is when thepress pays attention to it and portrays the wrongs that are done to athletes. I would like to point out that during the 4 years when the press is not paying at- tention, those same wrongs are goingon all the time. I would like to call your attention, if you have notseen this already, a doctoral dissertation by Arnold William Flath, entitled "History of Relations Between the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, 1905 to 1963." It was a dissertation for a degree at the University of Michigan. It explains in great detail what goes on year-in and year-out and recounts many incidents which were not picked up by the press. What I would like to do today is convince you that a bill that is going to be submitted in April in the Senate by Senators Gravel, Randolph, and Thurmond and probably other cosponsors, will do much or all of what you want to accomplish and my plea is to wait for that bill and perhaps incorporate in it some of the very good ideas you have brought forth in youriegislation. By virtue of having the opportunity of talking with your staff and also those of Senator Cook and Senators Gravel and Thurmond, I have become convinced of one thing; that your objectives are all the same. You are aiming at the same problem, you are frustrated as are many other people in trying to do something to solve it as quickly as possible and that you differ only in your methods. I also get the sense from my discussions that you are willing to make changes -in your bills or adapt your bills so that we can have one goodigll that will be passed both in the House and in the Senate in a bipartisan effort and that will solve the problem right now. agree with Mr. Peyser who said that if we don't do something now it is going to take a long time (at least 4 years, I would say) before there is similar interest again raised in this issue, before there is momentum built up to solve it. Then 4 years from now they will say, "Yes, someone proposed a bill back in 1978 and we turned it down." Therefore they may be predisposed to vote against it. There- fore, I would say a bill has to be passed now and has to succeed now, otherwise it will be at least 4 years before a practical solution will be developed. With that I would like to quickly review each of the bills and discuss our opinion from Arthur D. Little, Inc., trying to distinguish my personal opinion, because I can't obviously speak for a firm of 1',500 employees, each of whom would have different personal opinions. I did have the opportunity to talk yesterday, however, with General 265 Gavin, so we have a meeting of the minds as to generally what our approach will be. Again, we are willing to bend if new facts and more effective approaches are introduced. First of all, H.R. 5623 by Messrs. O'Hara and Dellenback. On the plus side, the bill is refreshingly direct, a direct and immediate solu- tion to the problem. In fact, I will say General Gavin laughed with delight when I showed him the bill and reviewed it because it was so direct and so simple and apparently so effective. The concerns that we have about this bill are, first of all, it places sanctions on individuals who would prevent. athletes from competing in international competition, but it does not seem to us to solve the core problem; that is, it does not guarantee that there will not be fur- ther reprisals, and this has been brought out earlier, further reprisals placed against institutions, coaches or athletes who raise a red flag and call attention to the district court to obtain remedial action. Second, although I am not a lawyer, I see a problem in that all of the decisions rest with the district courts. Everyone knows the great loads the courts are carrying and the difficulty of getting speedy action. There is no assurance that the district courts can handle this extra burden. Third, again, although I am not a lawyer, I have had discussions with some lawyers who question the constitutionality of the bill. Now, as to I-1.R. 5624 by Mr. Peyser, the positive side of this bill is that it establishes a permanent body with clout the kind of clout necessary to solve disputes between the AMU, N(AA, and for that matter, between other amateur sports organizations that might have disputes in the future. One of the problems in the past. is that Congress and the public-at- large has tried to deal with the problem on an ad hoc basis, as Mr. Peyser pointed out, and individuals including General MacArthur, General Gavin, Dr. Bruce Old from Arthur D. Little, Inc., and finally the Kheel committee, have been asked or appointed on an ad hoc basis to solve the dispute. Well, the dispute has been going on in various forms under the sur- face continually so there is no one regulation that is go'. - to assure that these organizations do not come into conflict in the. I There- fore, a permanent body to mediate disputes is a definite .Auirement, and we think that is one of the most positive parts of the bill. I have already voiced my objection to the wording under section 6 entitled "Federal Sports Rules' in Mr. Peyser's bill and the wording change he announced this morning answers my objection. In fact, I passed to the secretary a chart which might be helpful to you in ex- plaining the interrelationships of various sports organizations. If you look to the right on the chart this illustrates that there is an international body of law regulating amateur sports. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) is the key organization for the Olympic games and as such also has a great influence on all international ama- teur athletics. The IOC must satisfy itself that the National Olympic Committees and both international and national sports governing bodies are established along lines proper for amateur sports. It has developed broad guidelines. This authority provides the IOC tre- mendous leverage to further the ideals that it was created to enhance. Secondly, right under the IOC you notice the international sports federations, currently 26, one for each sport. These are also powerful BEST COPYAVAILABLE 266 in that they control, from the technical rules and eligibility stand- points, all international amateur athletic events, including Olympic and Pan-Am games. No national sports body can sanction events in the international field unless it is recognized by the corresponding international sports federation and once so recognized, the interna- tional body acquires the right to name delegates and so forth. In other words, these sports federations would not, necessarily, take any rules from the United States and adopt them for international competition. The rules changes that are made by international federa- tions are done by democratic action in voting by the members of the federation. That issue has been taken care of, so I will pass on. Now, another objection or question we might raise, is whether such an organization should be under HEW. If a commission is to be formed, it would be better to form a separate body and not place it under one of the existing departments. The latter approach just adds constraints to its functions and reduces its visibility. I would like to convince you, however, that the bill to be proposed in April will do even more, will do it better and still encompass all ofliir. Peyser's ideas. I briefly reviewed Mr. Cook's bill, S. 1192 and essentially found it had the same positive aspects and the same drawbacks raised by Mr. Peyser's bill, but I will say here that there are a number of sub- stantial defects in our view. First, of all, it preempts the authority of the U.S. Olympic Com- mittee itselfalthough maybe it should be preemptedbut I think much greater study should be done to determine what form that preemption, if any, should take. A second problem is the proposed Federal control of university and college facilities. We don't think that would be acceptable, not only to the college administrators, but to the athletes themselves. I think they would raise serious objections. Thirdly, the bill combines a research function, that is, the proposed division of safety and health with a regulatory function; we believe those should be separated and not part of the same body. Also, we might add the budget of $5 million per year that it pro- poses appears expensive and excessive relative to the proposed func- tions and roles of the Commission proposed by Mr. Cook. FinallytI would like to go on to discuss Senate 4088, which was introduced in September, 1972, in the second session of the 92d Con- gress. That bill is about to be reintroduced with new wording in April of this year. At this point, I would like to call your attention to the statement sheet I pitied out entitled "National Amateur Sports De- velopment Foundation Fact." If you will, I would like to read this into the record. The establishment of a National Amateur Sports Development Foundation (NASDF) is the subject of a new bill to be introduced in the Senate in April 1978. This bill was critically reviewed November 80, and December 1 by a widely representative Sports Advisory Committee assembled by the Senate sponsors of the bill. The NASDF is to be a private foundation chartered by Congress and endowed by private contributions matched by Federal funds up to a total of $100 million. The central purposes of the foundation are to sponsor and encourage broader participation in sports by all age levels and to promote equal opportunities 267 BEST COPYAVAILABLE for sports involvement by both sexes in all social, economic, and geographic group accomplish these objectives, the foundation expects to support and sup- plement the interest and activities of national organisations concerned with sports, and related educational and recreational programs of local, State, and Federal Government. Direction of the foundation will be the responsibility of an independent 17- member Board of Trustees chosen from the private sector on the basis of their wide knowledge of all aspects of sports development including management, education, facilities, finance, medicine, research, et cetera. Of significance is the intention to include recent key athletes on the Board in order to have the benefit of their thinking regarding the dynamic changes occurring in sports. Furthermore, the terms of office of the Board members are to berestricted in length in order to insure an appropriate insertion of fresh thinking. Successors to Board membership are to be nominated by peer groups for consideration by the Board. The day-to-day operation of the foundation will be the responsibility of a full-time salaried president. To assure democratic procedures within the foundation, there will be no membership representation of any sports organisation on the board, and, there- fore, no block votes by membership groups. The foundation staff will provide technical and consulting services to all interested amateur sports organisations in the areas of : communications serv- ices, financial services, facility planning, coaching and training aids, sports medi- cine, and statistical analysis employing a comprehensive sports data bank. In addition, the foundation staff will include sports program developers to assist organisations interested is preparing requests for foundation developing grants. It is envisioned that when the foundation reaches full operation, at least 75 percent of its annual endowment income will be applied to sports development grants. The $100 million endowment should generate as annual income of 55-10 million. Questions or suggestions concerning the proposed foundation should be ad- dressed to Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina or Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska. Essentially, what I would like to say in summary on this bill is that it is the "carrot approach," as you can see, to solve the problem that you have identified. The chief question that might be raised is whether there is enough stick with the carrot to obtain immediate action in solving the AAU -NCAA dispute. I would like to read for you the conclusions of a subcommittee of this Sports Advisory Council in which I par- ticipated on November 30 and December 1 which addressed itself to that very question. This committee was requested to study the relationship of a National Amateur Sports Development Foundation to existing sports organisations. Three questions relevant to your concerns were posed and a position was prepared on each one as follows. The first question was the feasibility of membership In the Sports Foundation. We concluded there should be no organisational membership. However, we recognised that for communications purposes there is a need for an identifiable list of any organizations interested in amateur sports. The organisations can be considered affiliates of the National Amateur Sports Develop.at Foundation. The second question concerned the use of the Sports Foundation's allocation of resources as a force for restructuring amateur sports. The position taken was that the Sports Foundation will allocate resources to serve as a catalyst for development of amateur sports programs at all levels. It is envisioned that at least 75 percent of the funds will go to program development when the founds- don reaches full operation. The third question concerned the role of arbitrator of disputes. The position taken was the National Amateur Sports Development Foundation should first serve as a catalyst to bring groups together to solve their own problems."This does not imply that the foundation cannot be used as an arbiter in certain ci commence,. Moreover, I also note that the bill provides that the foundation can request additional legislation or can appoint an outside arbitration commission if It wishes. 268 So, in conclusion, what I wish to stress is that this bill incorporates many of the sound ideas that you gentlemen have presented. It forms a permanent body that can become educated and really understand the problems of amateur sports and serve to put out the fires as they occur every year and every day. The Foundation should have visible wide- spread Federal recognition and thus the ability to, we think, be a very convincing and forceful instrument in solving disputes which occur and more importantly to improve the quality of participation and the performance of athletes in amateur sports. I thank you. Mr. O'HARA. Thank you very much, Mr. Oliver. We appreciate your testimony and we know we have just heard from someone who has given this a good deal of thought and has been working on it for a num- ber of years and has had interest for a long time and for that reason we consider your testimony especially valuable, but what you would propose in essence is that we take the proposal that you had last year, the proposal you came up with some time ago, the NASDF and expand it by adding some regulatory and arbitration funds; is that correct? 11Yr. OuvER. If need be, yes. I would like to say that, if you don't mind me interrupting for this one point, that my approach is this: You have put both organizations on notice that insofar as Congress, or at least the House of Representa- tives is concerned, there will be no more toleration of this dispute and particularly of its impact on the athletes. Essentially, what I would like to propose is giving them one last chance and saying, "An arbitration board or a regulatory agency really is going to come next unless they can solve the disputes them- selves, but, first, we are going to give you the carrot." Mr. O'HARA. Right. Would you have any objection, Mr. Oliver, to enactment of a rather simple direct bill which would sort of be a partial disarmament of all of this such as 5623 I Mr. OuvER. That is right, sir. I have no personal objections, nor I am sure does General Gavin. It is only the questions which we raised concerning the bill's drawbacks. Mr. O'HARA. With respect to that, I have already addressed myself to the enforcement question, but with respect to the constitutional ques- tion, I think that perhaps it would be well to insert in the bill some of our congressional findings which establish that we are acting under the power given to the Congress by the Constitution to regulate commerce among foreign nations and among the States. It is very clear, of course that the use of this eligibility weapon is the burden on that commerce and inhibits commerce in this sense from taking place. So I personally, although I am not going to question the point that has been raised, I personally have no qualms about the Con- gress and what we are doing. Mr. Peyser, any questions? Mr. Pwrstct. Thank you, Mr. O'Hara. I certainly appreciate the testi- mony that Mr. Oliver has given us this morning because I think it is very detailed and very thought out and he is probably more experi- enced than any of us on the committee in dealing with this matter. I certainly think we are going to have to give serious thought to therec- ornmenciations you are making and Iam sure we will. 269

I would like to call on your expertise, though, and background in the field on one of the questions I had raised this morning and perhaps you have a further insight on this which would be very worthwhile for us to hear and this is the question of ability of an organization such as the NCAA, to use other than the pure eligibility situation to bring pressures on the school. Have any of your studies turned up any situations that would lead you to believe that those, let's say. subtle pressures can be made? Mr. OLIER. Let ins first say that the method of approach in our studies, in both the tT.S. Olympic Committee study and the study for President Johnson, was simply to interview people more knowledge- able thou ourselves in amateur sports. throughout the world, not only in the ITnited States. We attended the Olympic games and talked to people throughout the world. So our method of research was to listen to both sides, to the extreme elements as well as the moderate elements, and to form our own con- clusion, for which we take full responsibility. So I will have to answer your question and say "Yes" in interviewing various athletes and athletic directors and coaches and volunteer administrators in sports, that many incidents came tg, our attention where subtle pressures are brought to bear by both organizations. I won't point a finger of blame at any one, but Mr. Emery this morning cited some very good examples, the television committee of the NCt, for example. We did a study for Holy Cross College 8 years ago concerning the role of athletics in a liberal arts college. They were questioning what to do with athletics in their college. Should they drop football? Should they deemphasize or should they emphasize? Part of the procedures in that study was to talk to about five other colleges whom they looked up to either academically or athletically and direct evidence came out of those schools. First of all, the basic finding is if you don't have a football or basketball program, you can't support other sports, ause football and basketball are usually the only moneymakers. Second, television provides the biggest income in these sports except for a few colleges who have large stadiums and can attract, particu- larly in the South, large audiences to fill their stadiums. But for the other colleges, 'particularly Eastern colleges, television income represents over half of the income derived from football or basketball. So the ability to tell a school by one rationale or another that they are not going to be televised next year has a tremendous clout. There are other subtle pressures. I believe, although anyone can call an investigation of a college, an investigation can also be called at the very top of the NCAA. I am picking this organization because these are clear-cut examples. Essentially I will say this, that having studied athletic programs in many colleges, everyone has some dirt under the rug. If you want to call an investigation you just have to scour around a little and you will find someone has made an infraction of the rules at some point in time. Many colleges cannot control the actions of their alumni. The alumni are Individual sports fans and do things outside the rules and really outside the control of the athletic department of 270 the school and those things are infractions and can always be found if you call an investigation. You can always find dirt. Mr. PETREL So you would feel then that just the limitation of the so-called eligibility alone would not necessarily serve the purpose of keeping either athletic body of the two we happen to be talking about from exerting other influences to gain the specific results they want I Mr. OLIVER. Exactly right. Mr. PEYsER. Mr. Oliver, I really once again want to thank you be- cause I think you have rendered an excellent service in your testimony. what you had to say and I appreciate your being here. Thank you and thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. OLIVER. Well, I think you did answer the other question I posed to Mr. O'Hara, and that is the only additional point I want to make. Mr. FEWER. Yes; Mr. Oliver, do you happen to know what commit- tee of the Senate, S. 4038 was referred to I Mr. OLIVER. Judiciary Committee and also it will be referred to the Judiciary Committee in the House since it requiresa Federal char- ter. It will be reintroduced to that committee or referred to that com- mittee this April. Mr. O'HARA. Sometime next month, but you don't know just when. Mr. OLIVER. That is right, my secretary seems to think it is the 19th. Mr. O'HARA. Well, your secretary went to the last day of the month that she could have gone and still found the Congress in session, be- cause we will not be in session over the following 10 days. Mr. OLIVER. I am glad you noted that and I think it was a message from on high that I got. Mr. O'HARA. The Easter recess begins at the close of business on the 19th. Thank you very much, Mr. Oliver. That concludes to- day's hearing. We will meet at 10 a.m. on Monday, April 2, next Monday, downstairs in room 2175, at which time we will hear from Association, the athletic director and track coach from Princeton University, and executive secretary of the National Federation of State High School Associations and a representative of the U.S. Gymnastic Federation. Thank you. [Whereupon, at 11:46 a.m. the subcommittee recessed, to reconvene at 10 a.m., Monday, April 2,1973.]

t .1 PROTECTION OF COLLEGE ATHLETES

MONDAY, APRIL 2, 1973 HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES, SPECIAL SURCOMMITTEE ON EDUCATION OP THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., pursuant to recess, in room 2175, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. James G. O'Hara (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives O'Hara, Dellenback, Peyser, Erich, Kemp, and Burton. Mr. O'HARA. The Special Subcommittee on Education of the House Committee on Education and Labor will come to order. Today is the last of six scheduled hearings on H.R. 5628 and H.R. 5624. The first of this series of 'hearings was held on March 19. Two weeks prior to that, on March 5, this subcommittee heard testimony with re- gard to the just issued declaration by NCAA that the coaches and students at least under its jurisdiction were not permitted to rartici- pate in the U.S. tour of the Soviet Union's NationalBasketball Team that is to begin near the end of this month. Witnesses from theAMT and NCAA were heard March 5. H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5624 were introduced March 14, 1978. Notwith- eanding that we had recently heard from the AAIT and the NCAA, we wished to have them back to give us their views on the two bills.The AAU representatives returned to testify on March 19. Our first witnesses this morning are National Collegiatetthletic Association representatives. The subcommittee's invitation to the NCAA was addressed toMr. Walter Byers, executive director of the association, and Iunderstand lie is here. He 'has been with the NCAA since 1947. Hebecame the NCAA's first full-time executive director in 1951, and 'hasheld that posit ion ever since. Before going to work with the association, he was a reporterwith the United Press International following his graduationfrom the University of Iowa in 1943. There are several gentlemen accompanying Mr. Byers:Mr. Chap- man, president of the NCAA, Mr.-Richard P. Koenig. secretary- treasurer of the NCAA, Mr. ThomasHansen, who testified here on March 5, the assistant executive directorof, the NCAA, and Mr. Donald B. Canham, director of athletics of the University ofMichigan Both Mr. Canham and Mr. Byers are representativesof the NCAA on the United States to the Trackand Field Federation. Will you please take your seats at the table and thesubcommittee will he pleased to hear from you. (271) Ti2

STATEMENT OP WALTER BYERS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NATIONAL COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, ACCOMPANIED BY ALAN L CHAPMAN, PRESIDENT, NCAA; RICHARD P. KOENIG, SECRETS!. TREASURER, NOAH; THOMAS HANSEN, ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NOAA; DONALD B. CANHAM, DIRECTOR OP ATHLETICS, UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN; AND SAMUEL E. BARNES, PROFESSOR OF HEALTH AND PHYSICAL EDUCATION, DISTRICT OP COLUMBIA TEACHERS COLLEGE Mr. O'HARA. Perhaps for the members of the committee and the clerk, you could identify yourselves from left to right or, Mr. Byers, you could introduce those accompanying you. Mr. BYERS. Mr. Chairman, we will be happy to do that. On my immediate right is Alan Chapman. His position at Rice Uni- v.' csity has been identified. He has been a noted authority in his field and primary consultant to NASA for the past 5 years, and faculty representative from Rice University to the NCAA for the past 10 years. He is a former outstanding track athlete as PM undergraduate at Rice. On his right is Dick Koenig, our secretary-treasurer, vice president at Valparaiio University, a highly successful athlete and coach at the university. On my left is our immediate past secretary-treasurer, Samuel E. Barnes, who for a number of Tears was a highly successful athletic director at Howard University in this city. He is now a member of the faculty at District of Columbia Teachers College. Mr. Chairman, there are other representatives of educational insti- tutions in the room. I recognize that they are not on the witness list ind not entitled to testify. However, they are here because of their concern about what many of us feel has been inaccurate information and misconceptions which have been presented to your committee, and I wonder if it would be in order, Mr. Chairman, to introduce them. They stand read to answer any questions you may have. Mr. O'HARA. We would be happy if you would do that. Mr. BYERS. They can acknowledge the introduction by standing or raising a hand so you can identify them. Robert C. JamesJ is the commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Con- ference. He is chairman of the NCAA Extra Events Committee. He was, previous to his ACC assignment director of inter-collegiate competition in college athletics at the U.S. Air Force Academy, and was an outstanding athlete at the University of Maryland. in under- graduate days. You have referred to Don Canham who is to my left. He is director of athletics at the University of Michigan, and a former coach. MI was an NCAA champion as an undergraduate, and he has taken track teams to all parts of the world. He is executive director of the U.S. Track Coaches Association. Col. Jack Stephens is the assistant athletic director at the UniVersity of Notre Dame. He retired after 30 years' service in the U.S. Army and joined the staff at Notre Dame and became assistant director at that university. 273 Harry Fritz, professor and director of physical education atthe State University of New York, Buffalo, had a long,distinguished career prior to that at Western IllinoisUniversity, and he is a leader in matters of physical education and athletic management. H. Boyd McWhorter lute been a member of the faculty at the Uni- versity of Georgia for 24 years. He was professor of English and dean of the College of Arts and Sciences at that university, andthen became commissioner of the Southeastern Athletic Conference just this past year. Harvey Chrouser is the athletic director of Wheaton College. He was one of the most successful football coaches in thehistory of the col- lege division of thv NCAA. He is now athletic director and chairman of the health elf eation and recreation department. Bob Cabin'', a member of the faculty for 25 years at the Univer- sity of Detroit. For 21 of those 21 years, he has been head of basketball at that institution, and a professor in the department of physical education and athletics. These gentlemen are a cross section of the educational institutions of the whole membership in the NCAA, and I hope, if you have any particular information you would like to solicit from them, you will do so. Mr. Chairman, we have a statement here, and some exhibits. All these exhibits were not ready at the time our statement was done, but we have, I believe, distributed the exhibits to you.We would like to submit those exhibits for the record, as we think that all this in- formation, Mr. Chairman, is most relevant and pertinent to not only the bills which are before the subcommittee, but because we think it is important for this subcommittee to obtain a better grasp of amateur athletics, also pertinent to the administration of amateur athletics, and what makes the whole thing go. With your permission, I would like to go through this statement and highlight pertinent points, introduce exhibits, and then we stand ready to answer any questions you might have. Is that agreeable ? Mr. O'HARA. That is certainly agreeable. Mr. Brans. IAt me say at the outset that we regret exceedingly that the issue before this subcommittee seems no longer to be a pursuit of a solution to the amateur sports problem or the proposedRussian basketball tour. The issue at this point in time is the propriety of the Federal Gov- ernment interfering in the management of the institutions of higher education in this Nation, specifically by Federal edict telling our uni- versity executives and faculties that they no longer shall have insti- tutional autonomy in the management of their affairs and the con- tracts they execute with their employees. We will return to that point in the statement, and as indicated in the outset of the rtatement. we cony; here in a spirit of cooperation. We think it would be a dereliction of our responsibilities as citizens if we did not at this time offer a summated course of action which we think will be most effective' in solving' the dispute that obviously concerns you, and deeply concerns us, and solving the' dispute by a means which 274 will effect the absolute minimum of Federal interference in the affairs of private organizations. First, we do have some points we feel must be made for the record, because the record, Mr. Chairman, was rather extensive before we got here. On the first page of the prepared statement, we remark that we think it is unfortunate that other amateur sports bodies have not been required to justify their practices and their rules in the manner that the NCAA has been required to justify its procedures. We are happy _to justify our rules. We think that they are educa- tionally sound. We do make the point that it is unfortunate that other amateur sports bodies have not been required to do the same thing. On the bottom of page 1 and the top of page 2 we outline six areas we we ild like to cover in this statement. We feel that the committee has received inaccurate information, sometimes intentionally misleading information. Items 1, 2, 3, and 4 are an effort to try to correct the record, and to present to the commit- tee a better perspective. On page 2, the point is made that the colleges of the NCAA conduct the most respected amateur sports program in the world. For example, the colleies each year turn out superbly skilled athletes who populate the professional football leagues that are now spread from coast to coast. They more directly into starting roles. The same story is found in basketball, where the superstars of the ABA and NBA are the former superstars of previous years at NCAA colleges, and these athletes, as you know, command substantial salaries. If you will study the successes that our Olympic basketball teams have accomplished throughout the history of the games, you will find that the NCAA college athletes are the performers who have made U.S. basketball teams successful in Olympic competition, until the un- fortunate incident in Munich, and we lay some of thatthis is an irrelevant observation, but I hope some clay somebody will look at itwe lay that to the inability of the U.S. Olympic Committee to persuade some of our finest athletes to represent the U.S.A. in Olympic compeition. We think that interested bodies should look into why that situation exists. Going on to page 8, speaking to track and field, the U.S. citizens, 22 of them, hold or share world track and field records. I am going to ask Mr. Hansen to give a listing of those records to the recorder, if that is agreeable, so you will have a listing of the world records and who holds them. Mr. O'HARA. Without objection. that will be inserted in the record at the appropriate point. [Listing follows: A 275

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10498 0-19 276 Mr. BYERS. Those records were set by NCA.A undergraduates or former NCAA students who were competing immediately after college graduation. Going_on, foreign coaches from all over the world visit the colleges of this Nation to find out how we do it, studyour facilities, training !chniques, medical supervision, and coaching skills. Our coaches are in constant demand for State Department spon- sored tours to provide better. teaching techniques and knowledge to nations in all corners of the globe. Two particular sports are of concern today to this subcommittee basketball and track and field. My remarks, in the main, will be directed to them. And if you have inquiries on any other sports, I hope you will ask us. The AAU doesn't have a meaningful program in either sport. I defy anyone to name an AAU basketball team which playsa regular schedule, has a regular playing site, and hiresa coach full time. In track and field, where are the AAU track teams/ Wherecan you find a track team managed by the AAU witha full time track and field coach, with competitorson their team, and a regular schedule/ I think the point we want to emphasize at this juncture is thatan organization that hasno program assumes carte blanche authority to schedule international competition in a very inadequate fashion without regard to any of the other interests in amateur sports today. Much of the embarrassment and difficulties that resultcan be laid to that fact. At the top of page 4, the AAU has no program for the college drop- out or the boy not going to collwe. I hope you will remember that point. The AAU should be concerned-about the boy that can't benefit from the college program, but where is the program for that boy f Agreat segment of our young people are not being served. They are adequately being served by the college program which is the fountainhead of U.S. athletic might in this country. But the boy who is not fortunate enough to go to college has nobody looking out after him. We consider that one of the weaknesses ofyour subcommittee's approach to the problem. We will come back to that later. Now, as to the NCAA as to item No. 2: NCAAwas created in 1906 by 13 eastern colleges. It isa creature of the colleges. It only does what the colleges direct it to do. It is a voluntary, nonprofit. educational organization composed of 770 members at the present time. The statistics are there before you. The membership providescom- petition for almost 200,000 athletes eachyear in 28 different sports. Our members spend over $280 milliona year on intercollegiate competition. This does not embrace intramurals and physical education. Weare talking of solely competitive intercollegiate athletics, and spendover $230 million in those programs, and subsidize the annual outlay by almost $23 million. What I am saying is that at the time that higher education is beset by probably the most severe financial crisis in its history, themanage- ment of our institutions think well enough of this program that they 277 will subsidize it by almost, $23 million, because theythink it is a valuable experience in the institutional conferences, andNCAA legis- lation keeps that program within basic educational concepts. With your permission, I would like to introduceI believe youher) thisthe roster of NCAA members. It is provided from a non-NCAA source, so it is notjust a house publication. [The document referred to is, "Roster of NCAA Members," areprint of information taken from "The Blue Book of CollegeAthletes for 197.4-73." The document is filed in the office of theSpecial Subcom- mittee on Education, where it is available for inspection.] Mr. liirnas. We want you to leaf through there and look atthe num- ber of institutions. It tells about the enrollment, their coaches,their facilities. We think it would be interesting if other amateur sportsorganize,- . tions would give you a roster of their coaches and their programs.I would hope the committee would ask for a comparable submissionfor the record. Going on, sir, on page 5, the NCAA, as I indicated, is a voluntary organization of institutions. No institution is required to belong to it. Any member orsroup of members is free to resign from it. NCAA policies are determined by delegates voting in annual con- vention, and those delegates are appointed by the chief executiveof- ficer of the university. If I may submit this as an exhibit, we think this is apiece of evidence you should be aware of. Mr. O'HARA. It will be entered in the record at this point. [The document referred to follows:] 278

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ARTICLE 5, SECTION 6 MEETINGS

(a) There shall be an annual Convention of this Association during the second week of January, or at such other time as may be pre- scribed by the Executive Committee. (b) Special meetings of the Association shall be called by the Presi- dent on the written request of twelve or more members of the Council. (c) One hundred active members represented as prescribed in this Constitution shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of business of the Association. (d) Each active and allied member shall be entitled to one vote and may be represented at the annual Convention and at special meetings by one to three accredited delegates. (e) Each associate and affiliated member shall be entitled to one delegate without voting power. (f) Member and non - member institutions are authorized to send visiting delegates who shall be without voting power and shall not actively participate in the business proceedings of the Association. (g) The certification and voting of delegates shall be conducted as follows: (1) Delegates shall be certified to the secretary as entitled to represent the member in question by the proper executive officers of their institutions or organizations. (2) In case an active or allied member is represented by more than one delegate, it shall designate the delegate entitled to cast its vote. (3) The same delegate may represent both an active and an allied member. (4) No delegate shall represent any active or allied member un- less he is actually identified with such member. (5) Whenever the Association votes by roll call, either written or viva voce, on any question, on demand of any delegate the names t of delegates as they vote shall be checked by the Committee on Credentials in order to verify the authority of the voter. ((I) Voting by proxy shall not be allowed. 283

Mr.BYERS.I believe we have five institutions as examples, and the appointment of delegates appointed to vote at the 1973 NCAA con- vention. We have something like 450 more of these, if you don't think this is an adequate random sample. We topped the list by Yale University just to show you gentlemen, contrary to what impression may have been left earlier, President Brewster of Yale appoints the delegates to our convention, and they are well represented with five delegates. You can go through these other institutions and see the presidents' signatures. These delegates come to our convention after meetings of the athletic board of their institutions, on which all the, institutions with which I am familiar have student representation, meetings of the faculty of their institutions, and frequently meetings of conferences, to discuss in great depth at the institutional and conference level the issues that are going to be considered at the convention, and then the dele- gates come to vote. I have another exhibit, Mr. Chairman, having to do with the NCAA growth, this chart here, which I would ask to be accepted for the record. Mr. O'llAtt.t. Without objection, so ordered. [The exhibit referred to follows:] BEST COPY AVAILABLE NCAA MEMBETISHIP 0NOWTN. 1949-1973

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Mr. BYER& Our point here is the NCAA membership has increased since 1949 by 142.9 percent. The chart reflects that increase. The colleges and universities must be satisfied with the way the NCAA operates, and they must value the services of the NC.kA, or they wouldn't enroll in the organization, it doesn't seem to me,in such great numbers. There is no scheduling requirement which precludes NCAA colleges from competing with mminembers. You don't have to belong to the NCAA to get a schedule. 4 At the top of page 6, gentlemen, I think this is critical to an under- standing of the problem. I am going to read it verbatim, if I may. "To understand the problems which we face" Mr. Chairman, let me interject this: nobody is more tired, or more upset by the dispute in amateur sports than the NCAA. We are totally committed to finding an equitable solution for the students, at least, and the college that makes tlw program go. We are not interested in any degree in prolonging this dispute, but we think equity should be a part of the solution, sothat we can have the best program in the United States, so our best athletes and our best teams are brought together with the best logistic support to rep- resent this country in international competition. I think this paragraph is critical to an understanding of the basic problem. Excuse me for interpolating there. I did want to make that point. The NCAA authority is solely that given to it by its membership institutions voting in convention assembled. The AAU authority, on the other hand, does not flow upward from those it seeks to govern, but rather it is imposed downward upon those whom it attempts to govern. Its authority stems from certain international rights it ac- quired by historical accident around the turn of the century. The AAIT feels it can keep its foreign-dispensed authority secure only if it displays to the international governing sports body that it is in control of the sports concerned in the United States. Please bear in mind the AAI seeks to exercise its control by per- mitting or preventing athletes from competing in international com- petition, since it has lost virtually all its other controls it previously attempted to exercise over domestic competition. Now, our rules and regulations have three fundamental purposes. And sometimes, Mr. Chairmen, I have had the feeling that you thinkI don't mean to personalize that - -I think the subcommittee has the feeling that sometimes when a coach comes here to speak, he speaks for the NCAA, he is an NCAA spokesman. That is not correct. He may speak his personal views, or the views of the coaching association to which he belongs. Butthe NCAA view- . points are those by the presidentially designated representatives, some- times elected by the faculty, and sometimes appointed by the president. A great many of our rules, I would say a substantial majority of our rules, are designed to protect the student at least from encroachment upon his time and institutional obligations by the coach or outside pro- moters. They are protective rules, designed 'by people concerned with his education. Secondly, many of our rules are designed to keep the sports activity under appropriate educational boundaries. 286 We limit the playing season, we limit the practice times we limit how man _y times the coach can call the squad together for pictures, or things like that. Given a free rein, a coach in basketball would have the boy dribbling the ball 865 days a year, and the skilled promoter would have the super- star in every meet he could rent an auditorium for, if there were not some restraints. Those restraints can only be effective if institutions are bound together commonly, because of the recruiting and scheduling pres- sures, which I will be happy to discuss with you. Finally, we have a third point inour rules. That is to maintain the college program, a perfectly legitimate function of educational insti- tutions, to maintain our programs, which makes all this wonderful world of sports possible, and also to maintainsome reasonable equity in matters of academics and athletics between institutions when they take the field or floor to compete between oramong themselves. Now, on pages 7 and 8, gentlemen,we want to point out to you that the extra events program of the NCAA,a program generally to inspect outside competition, is nota new program. It was originated in 1948 because of the educationalconcern caused by the great increase in number of postseason footballgames. Later, it was expanded into basketballas basketball became more popular and there were problems with outside promoters in that sport. It was extended into track and field and gymnastics. It is not extended willy-nilly to fight another organization. You don't find swimming there. Swimmingis not a problem. To leave the impression that these regulationsare for organizational aggrandizement is wrong. Theyare not weapons against the AMT. They are used only to prevent disruption of academicprograms and pressures on the athlete. If outside promoters want exceptions to the rules, these exceptions are granted, if the conipetit ion meets proper standards. On page 8, I point out these rules. The basketball coaches have wanted modification for 8 years ina row on the out-of-season basket- ball rule, and for 3 years ina row, the delegates have turned them down. Our institutions have frequently hadan opportunity to examine the merits of our regulation of out-of-season basketball competition. Even though their coaches' association wants relaxation, themanagement says no, that basketball should be controlled in themanner it has been. Likewise in track and field. Track and field legislationwas put in approximately 8 years ago, and 3years ago the membership adopted a constitutional amendmentwhich requiresa two-thirds voteto strengthen that legislation. It was not done to strengthen it in terms of the AA'? inviting the Russian team to the rnited States. Itwas done on the principle the rule needed further clarity and meaning. We have considerable reservations, gentlemen,as to whether the Congrehs should attempt to substitute its judgment for the wisdom of college presidents, faculty members, and athletic directors appointed to vote for their institutions on matters affecting the welfare of those students who engage in high-pressure athletics.

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. 4 287 Going to page!), gentlemen, the problem which prompts.you to spend a great amount of your valuable time on this issue was caused by the AAU. We assert in the strongest terms possible that they are solely and exclusively responsible for the problem, and it would have been quite a simple procedure if they would have been willing to proceed accord- ing to the same policies that many, many ot her outsiders follow. If they had followed those proeedures, if they had told us of their contract when it was executed, and gone through the essential noti- fication, there would not have been a problem. The extra events committee of this association annually certifies approximately this number of events: 12 postseason football games, 37 track and field meets, 11 gymnastics meets, 23 college all-star foot- ball and basketball games, and, in addition, through comparable machinery, we certify approximately 59 high school all-star football and basketball games. We have, Mr. Chairman, a listing of these events. We think it is im- portant for the record, if you will accept it. It is a wide variety of organizations and citizens scattered throughout these United States. Whether you want to talk about the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, or Sugar Howl, whether it is the Lions Club, Sertoma, Red Cross, all these organizations have no problem in following the procedures prescribed by the extra events committee. iVe think it is ironic that the AAr sets itself above all the other organizations of this country, and sets itself above the college rules, and chooses to ignore them, and foments this type of unnecessary crisis. If it is agreeable. trity we put this in the record Mr. O'HARA. Without objection. it is so ordered. [The document referred to follows :]

CERTIFIED POSTREABON FOOTBALL GAMER-1973 Astro Bluebonnet Bowl : Greater Houston Bowl Assn.. Houston, Texas, December 80.1972. Cotton Bowl : Cotton Bowl Athletic Assn., Dallas, Texas, January 1, 1978. Fiesta Bowl : Arizona Sports Foundation. Phoenix. Arizona, December 28,1972. Gator Bowl : Gator Howl Assn., Inc., Jacksonville, Florida, December 30,1972. Liberty Bowl : Liberty Howl Festival, Memphis, Tennessee, December 18,1972. MideasternSouthwestern Howl: MideasternSouthwestern Conference, New Orleans, Louisiana, December 2, 1972 (Renamed Pelican BowlPlayed at Durham. North Carolina). Orange Bowl : Orange Bowl Committee, Miami, Florida, January 1, 1973. Pearl* Bowl : Pearh Howl. Inc., Atlanta, Georgia, December 29, 1972. Sugar Bowl : New Orleans MidWinter Sports Assn., New Orleans, Louisiana, De- cember 31, 1972. Sun Howl : Southwestern Sun Carnival Assn., El Paso, Texas, December 80,1972. Tangerine Bowl : Tangerine Sports Assn., Inc., Orlando, Florida, December 29, 1972.

CERTIFIED OUTSIDE TRACK AND FIELD Marrs-1972 Border Olympics : Border Olympics. Inc., Laredo. Tex., March 8-4, 1972, Freedom Games: Southern Christian Leadership Conf., Philadelphia, Pa., May 14, 1072. Annual Orlando Invitational :11. of Fla. & Orlando Track Club, Orlando, Fla., Mar. 4,1972. PSTFF Nat'l Championship: Wichita State. Wichita, Kans., May 20-27, 1972. Bakersfield Invitational : Chamber of Commerce & Bakersfield Col., Bakersfield, Calif.. May 20,1972. 288

Coliseum Classic: t40. sports ANEW., Los Angeles, Calif., June 9, 1972. Kennedy Games : V. If California Regents, Berkeley, Calif., June 10, 1972. Ty Terrell Relays: Lamar Tech & Young Men's Business League, Beaumont, Tex., May 12, 1972. El Paso Invitational : El Paso Amateur T & F Asso., El Paso, Tex., May 20,1972. California Relays : Modesto Jr. College, Modesto, Calif., May 27, 1972. U.K. Natl' Jr. Championships : Chevrolet & Jefferson County Tr. Club, Lakewood, Colo., June 23-24, 1972. Carmel Classic : All Civic Clubs of Carmel, Cannel, Indiana, June 24- 25,1972. Compton Jaycee Invitational : Compton Jaycees, Los Angeles, Calif., June 4,1972. Annual Sr. Men's Championships : V. of Washington, Seattle, Wash., June 15, 19, 11, 1972. Portland Rose : Portland Rose Festival, Gresham, Ore., June 24,1972. USA -USSR Jr. International : Sacremento Jaycees, Sacramento, Calif., July 28- 29, 1972. Ft. Lauderdale Holiday Meet (Broward County T & F Assoc.): Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., Dee. 28,1972. Sea Diego Relays: San Diego Track Club. San Diego, Calif., April 8,1972. Nat'l Invitational : U. of Md. & Catholic Youth Organisation, CollegePark, SIC January 15, 1972. Albuquerque Jaycee Invitational : Albuquerque Jaycees, Albuquerque, New Mex., January 16,1972. 13th Annual Chesterfield Invitational : Chesterfield Jaycees, Richmond,Va., Jan. 21, 1972.. Examiner Games: San Francisco Examiner-Hearst Papers, San Francisco, Calif., Jan. 21, 1972. Philadelphia Track Classic : Dept. of Recreation, Philadelphia, Pa.. Jan. 21, 1972. Sunkist Invitational Indoor: So. Calif. Sports Asso. & Sunkist Growers, Los Angeles, Calif., January 22,1972. Wanamaker Minnie Games : Wanamaker Millrose Atli. Assn.. New York, N.Y.. Jan. 28,1972. Oklahoma City Jaycee Invitational : Oklahoma City Jaycees. Oklahoma City, Okla., Jan. 28419,1972. Oregon Invitation : Ore. State & UM. of Oregon Alumni, Portland, Ore., Jan. 29, 1972. Ft. Worth Coaches : Ft. Worth Coaches Assn., Ft. Worth, Tex., Feb. 4, 1972. Knights of Columbus Track Meet : Knights of Columbus, Cleveland, Ohio. Febru- ary 5, 1972. Graduate "N" : NSU Graduate "N" Club, Natchitoclos, La., February 5, 1972. Times Indoor Games : LA Times. Inglewood, Calif., Feb. 11, 1972. Astrodome Federation Nat'l Championship Meet : UST & F, Houston, Tex., Feb. 12, 1972. Athens Invitational : Athens Sports, Inc., Oakland, Calif., Feb. 12. 1972. Mason-Dixon Games : Kentuckian Cinder Club, Louisville, Ky., Feb. 12. 1972. San Diego Track Club Indoor Games : Man Diego Track Club, San Diego, Calif., Feb. 19 & Apr. a 1972. USTFF Southern Championships : Wahabi Shrine & UST & F : Jackson, Miss., Jan. 22,197. USA Indoor Men's & Women's Indoor Championship: MU, New York, N.Y., Feb. 25, 1912. Champions Invitational :So. Calif. Sports AMA., March 4, um, Los Angeles. Calif. U.S. Olympic : N.Y. State Olympic Committee, Madison Square Garden, N.Y., Feb. 18. 1972.

CISTIDIED OttTSIDD Twit AND Flan Slut r4-1971 National Invitational : Univ. of Maryland & Catholic Youth Organisation, Jan. nary 8, 1971, College Park, Md. All American Games : San Francisco ExaminerIlearst Newspapers, January 22, 1971, San Francisco, California. Philadelphia Track Massie : Dept. of Recreation, Philadelphia, Pa., January 23, 1971. Albuquerque Jaycees Invitational : Albuquerque Jaycees, Albuquerque, New Mex., January 25, 1971. 289

Wanumaker MI Orme (hones :Wanatuaker Millmse Athletic Asso., New York, N.Y., January 29, 1971. Oklahoma City Jaycees Invitational : Oklahoma City Jaycees, Oklahoma City, Okia., January 30. 1971. Oregon Invitational : Oregon State & Uni. of Oregon Alumni, Portland, Ore., January 30, 1971. Sunkist Invitational: Southern Calif. Sports Asso. & Sunklat Growers, Los An- geles. Calif., January 22. 1971. Kennedy Games: Univ. of Califilrnia Athletic Dept., Berkeley. Calif.. June 8, 1971. LIMY Outdoor : Wichita State. Wichita. Kan...lune 11 & 12, 1971. Knights of Columbus Indoor : Knights of Columbus, New York, N.Y.. February 1971. Ft. Worth Coaches Games: Ft. Worth Conches Assoc, Ft. Worth, Tex., Feb. 5 & 8,1971. Seattle invitational : Carroll Club of Seattle, Seattle, Wash., Feb. 6, 1971. Sun Papers All East : Baltimore Sun, Baltimore, Md., Feb. 6, 1971. Graduate "N" Club Indoor: NSU Graduate Club, Natchitoches, La., Feb. 6, 1971. L.A. Times Indoor : I.A. Thum Los Angeles, Calif., Feb. 12, 1971. Athens Invitational : Athens Sports, Inc., Oakland, Calif., Feb. 13, 1971. Astrodome Federation Meet : VST & 1", Houston, Texas, Feb. 13 & 14, 1971. Masan-Dixon Games: Kentucklana ('hider Club, Louisville, KY., Feb. 14, 1971. U.M. Olympic Invitational : N.Y. State Olympic Com., New York, N.Y., Feb. 19, 1971. AAI' Indoor Champ. : AAV, New York, N.Y., Feb. 26, 1971. Chesterfield Invitational : Chesterfield Jaycees, Richmond, Va., March 3, 1971. Border Olympics: Border Olympics, Inc., Laredo, Tex., March 5 and 6, 1971. San Diego Relays: Nan Diego Track Club, Nan Diego, Calif., April 10, 1971. Sr. MI 11%4 Champ.: Oregon Track Club. Eugene, Oregon, June 25, 213, 1971. Knights of Columso Indoor Meet : Knights of Columbus, Cleveland, Ohio, April 19, 1971. Martin 1.. King Games: Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Philadel- phia. Pa.. May 16. 1971. Texas Invitational : El Paso Amateur T & F, Houston, Texas, May 15, 1971. El Paso Invitational :El Paso Amateur T & F Assoc., El Paso, Tex., May 22, 1971. Ty Terrill Invitational, Lamar Tech and Young Men's Business League, Beau- mont. Tex.. May 115. 1!71. Memorial Stadium. Chamber of Commerce and Bakersfield Col., Bakersfield, Calif., May 15, 1971. California Mays : Modesto Jr. Col., Modesto, Calif., May 29,1971. Compton Invitational : Compton Jaycees, Los Angeles, Calif., June 5, 1971. Ft. Lauderdale Holiday Meet : Browned County T & F Assoc., Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. Dec. 29, 1971. Portland Rose: Portland Rose Festival, Portland, Oreg., June 12, 1971.

(112TIPIED OUTNIVEALIATAN HAAKKTBALI. amiss1972 New England Sr. Hall of Fame Game: Naismith Memorial-Basketball Hall of Fame, Inc.. Springfield. Mass., March 19. 1972. Iowa Sr. Charity Game: Cedar Rapids Sport Club, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, March 25, 1972. town AllStara vs. Wisconsin All-Stars: Mid America Basketball Camp, Dubuque, Iowa and Kau Claire, Wise., March 25, 28,1972. Kentucky-Tennessee All-Star Game: Sertoma Charities, Louisville, Ky., March 211, 1972. Press Scimitar Charity Game: Sertoma Charities, Memphis, Tenn., March 26, 1972. Eddie Matthews Memorial North -Mouth Game: Missouri Heart Ana, March at 1972. National Asso. of Basketball Coaches East-West Oame: NABC and Uni. of Dayton, Dayton. Ohio. April 1, 1972. TennesseeKentucky AllStar Gnaw: Franklin Rd. Jaycees, Nashville, Tenn., April 1. 1972. Aloha Classic: Cystic. Fibrosis Foundatioa. Honolulu. Hawaii. April 8, 7, So 1972. North-South College Classic : Support Our Sports Club of Erie, Erie, Pa., April 8, 1972. 290

IndianaOhio Aliditar : Sertoma Charities, Indianapolis, Indiana, April 14, 1972, in. Indiana All -Star: *roam .'harpies. Columbus.Ohio.April 15, 1972. M. S. Hope Chest Classic: Multiple &germ's Foondation. Philadelphia, Penn., April 15. 1972. Pima Hut Charities All.Star : Plant UM Charities, Las Vegas, Nevada. April 15, 1972. Southern Shooting Stars 'lay for Charity : Service League of Lafayette. La- fayette. La.. April 15. 1972. All - Illinois Collegiate Classic: Kiwanistall 1 & Radio WM1113. Peoria, Illinola, March 13 or 14. 1972. ProKeditiNassoiuSuffolk College Basketball Coaches Assoc: NACDBCA. Green. ville. N.Y., April 15. 1072.

CERTIFIED OVTRIOE ALL-STAR INOTBALL (IAMES-1972 Ameriern Bowl Game : Lions District 35-R. Tampa, Florida, Jan. 9,1972. Illuelray Game : Montgomery Lions, Montgomery. Ala., Dec. 27, 1972. Hula Bowl :Association for Hawaii Newspaper Agency Charities, Honolulu, Hawaii, Jan. S. 1972. North-South Shrine Game: Mahl Shrine Teniple. Miami, Fla.. Dec. 25, 1972. Ohio Shrine Bowl : Ohio Shrine. Westerville. Ohio, Dec. 2. 1972. Shrine EnstW. st GROW' Islam Temple Shrine. Dee. 30,1972. Whitney Young Claasic: C. E. Van Jones, Houston, Teo.

CERTIFIED 011TRIOR GYMNARTIcR Morra-1972 Nat'l AAU Championships: Montana AAU, Apr. 27-29, 1972; Billings, Mont. Annual Lake Erie: Lake Erie AM', Cleveland Heights, Ohio, April 9. 1972. Diablo Valley Nat'l Invitational : Diablo Valley College, Concord, Calif., March 18. 1972. CSOF Nat'l Championships: I.S. Gym Federation, Statesboro, Gs., May 641, 1972. Waterman invitational: San Diego Downtown YMCA. San Diego, Calif.,Oct.6-1, 1972. Rocky Mountain Open : Colorado (iym Assoc.. Aurora, Colo., December 2, 1972. Nat'l Conipulsory Open : Midwest Gym Assn.. Downers Grove, III., Oct. 28.1972. Indiana Colleglai Gym. Invitational : Fulton Jr. High School, Indianapolis, Indi- ana, Nov. 10, 1972. Midwest Open Championships :III. Iligh School Gym Coaches Asso., Lombard, III.. Nov. 24. 25. 19T2. Nat'l Gym Oink.: National Gym Clinic. Inc.. Sarasota, Fla.. Dec. 28- 80,1972. 1'.S. Gym. Federation Open : ['SOF N.Y. Area Technical Committee, Farmingdale, N.Y.. Dee. 9, 1972.

CERTIPIEO Ovvsn,n SOCCER TEAMR-1972-78 California : Berkeley Mavericks, Oakland ; Club Deportivo Guadalajara, Oakland : tlermanAmerleans, San Diego; Northern California Hears, Corte Madera ; Oakland Rams, Oakland ; San Francisco Athletic Club, San Francisco; San Francisco Vikings, San Francisco. Canada : P. A. Nationals, Toronto, Ontario. Connecticut : Connecticut All-Stars, Branford ; Hartford Ukrainians,Hartford: Italian-American AllFitars. Hartford ;Middletown InterClub, Middletown: New Britain lonleons. New Brian : New Haven City, East Haven ; Southern Connecticut, Branford ; University of Connecticut, Storm; Vasco da Gams, ShcitoRWcstimort. Westport Wilton. Florida :Florida Intercollegiate Soccer Conference (East and West Teams), Winter Park ;Jacksonville, Jacksonville ;Lakeland. Lakeland ;Orlando, Apopka : Rollins College. Winter Park ; WFLA-TV, Tampa ; Winter Park Reds, Winter Park. Georgia : Georgia State University. Atlanta. Illinois : Olympic Team, Edwardsville : Southern Illinois University, Edwards. villa: Wheaton College, Wheaton. ''f t ,.1 ' 291

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e1:1111111.1111D111 SCUM. .11.1.-STAD E'a'rn..t. AND IIAKKICTRALL Hamzs-1972 Arizona .111-Star Football Battle: Arizona State Coaches Assoclation, August 12, 1972. Flagstaff. Arizona. San Gabriel Valley .1l1 -Star flame: Illeadora notary Club, July (1, 1972, Azusa. I Itlirnratin. Kiwa OM All-St lir Came : Whiti ler Ilawst Manilla film, July T. 1972, Cerritos, California. Orange l'onlity Mirth-South All-Star flame: Orange l'omily Youth Foundation, August 17. 11172 Costa Mesa. California. EurekaRotaryAil-Star (lae: Enn4nt notary Club. August20, 1972, Eureka, California. Central l'aliforttia All-Star 1711111P: Central ealifornia Foundation, August 24, 1972. Fresno. (1111ft:ruin. midlip North-South All-Star 611111P: Shrine Temple, July 27, 1972, Los Angeles. callfornia. Alameda-4'1110ra Costa County All-Star Game: Cerebral Palsy rand, August 18, 1972. thikinnd. California. Riverside East-West All-Star Hume: ItirPrldide .iayerrs, August 12, 1972, Ulcer- side. 11 rierliitl. (Ipt lutist All-Star (tante: 11pt1 atist 1'1%01. August 12, 1972, Siteramento, California. $(.111,11. Howl San Diego Jayeees, Monist 4. 1912. San Diego, California. It.,14 Volley Ail-Star (lame: Ross Valley tilwaals Club, August18, 1972, San Rafael. i'stlifortila. Santa Miriam* Comity .11I-Star Sinai! Barbara Buys Club, August 5, 1972. Santa Barham California. 111g Brothers All-Star Game: Big Brothers, July 1, 1972. %Prance,California. Lions All-Star flume: West Torrance Lions Club, August 10, 1972, Torrance. California. San Fernando Valley All -Star 1111111e: AID Fernando Valley Foundation, August10. 1972. an Nuys, Califoruht. Tulare Kings Comity MI-Star flame: Visalia Optimist Club, August17, 1972, Visalia. Fall Condit. Nutmeg Bowl (lame: Boys Club, August 18. 1972, Bridgeport,Conneetient. I tollana North-South All-Star Ilattte : Indiana Jaycees, July 29,1972,Dionntington, Indiana. Crippled Childrens Bowl : Louisville Jayreet4, July21). 1972. Louisville, Kentiteky. Lowell Sim All-Star (hone: Lowell Sun Charities, Inc.,August 22, 1972, Lowell, Massachusetts. Harry Agganis AllStar flume: llarry At/palm MemorialFoundation. August 12, 1872. Lynn, 51astatchusetts. "iq 2.05

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.1rizona A114tar Basketball 1htme: Arizona Shute roaches Association. August 11. 11172. Flagstaff. Arizona. Kiards .11144W' thrine: Kiwanis Club. June 17. 11472. Costa Mesa. California. Eureka notary All-Star Came: Eureka Itontry Club, June 21), 1972. Eureka, 1'911ferhhi. Central California All-Star flame: Big Brolhers, July 13, 1972, Fres .'n..11- fornia. Southern California All-Star (:sine : July 12. 11472. Lord Angeles. California. All State (lassie: June 211 1972. Onk:and. San 141.gls College-Prep All-Star 1:9111e: High School Basketball Coachestowel ',- thin. August 2. 1972. San Diego. California. City nanny All-Star Ilams:Louisville Jayeees, July 8, 1972. Louisville, Kentucky. Kentucky-ItullitartAll-Slur flame:Lions Club, June 17.1972,LoulsvInc, Kent neky. hollana-Kentnky All-Star (lame: Indianapolis Slar..Inue 24, 1972, Indianapolis, Indiana. Ripley County All-Star Game: Ripley County Vulture 1047. June 111.1972, VPINII I I 1144. I nolin EaslAVest (lame: Cincinnati Enquirer. June 10. 1972. Cincinnati. Ohio. aith-T Bowl :I 'iv te Chris, August 19. 1972. Shawnee. Okininsturt.

C111111EIED O:4111F1 Si' MUER HASEUALL TEAM11-1972 The following is a list etattnIning the names and addresses of stuntrwr base- ball leagues and teams vertilled os Indicating they will meet the provisions of 1972 XCAA Sumner ilaseiron RerprIngnents. Allantle Colleginte Ilaselinil League: John IV. Kaiser, R -1 Broadway, HIM. Burst. NeW York 118(10. 296

Bergen II. Ilitvid 4E11 Neu, 449 Ingram Aven1111% Staten 1$1111111, New York. Brooklyn-Queens Dodgers: Alien (1. noldis. 610211 192nd Street. Apt. 3A. Flush- ing. New York 11305. Emig Island Nationals: Ed :Mathis. 415 Fairview Avenue. 111111aeWlsed. New York. Mt. Vernon Ilenetals: Jack Fisher. 49-23 218 Street. Ilitysitle. New York 11384. Seranton Colleglitte Red Sox :Dave (corr. University of Scranton. Linden Street. Scranton. Pentisylvitilin imit Basin League: Pat 31orrition. Jr.. Moliridge. South Dakota. Chamberlain Mit : Robert 1". Kirwint. North nrare Street. Chamberlain, SouthDakian 57325. Mobridge Laker.; : Periled McClelland. Mobridge, South Itkoht. Pierre l'owboys Vero 3IeKee. Box 1110. Pierre. South Dakota. Rapid City Chiefs: Floyd Fitsgentld, Box 131111. It:WM City. South Dakota. Sturgis Titling: Lloyd Kesxler. Box ratk Sturgis. South I /Alan. tape .11(1 Itarebull League. lne.: Lawrence W. Uphill. UM liolltlity 1u t. Route 132.11)111111s. 31asigtelmsetts. Bourne Canalmett :John A. Sanford. 18 Pleieutt Street. Sitgantore. Massiteint- set ts. rilat burn ToWII Teala : Merrill T. Doane. 101 ileritage Lane. Chatham. 31assuchtt- set is. Cot nit het deers : Arnold 31yeoek, 159 Crocker Net Wad. 31assiteltusett4 821185. Comntodores : George II. Creighton. 18 Salt Pond Road. Filituollth. Aiassaelinsetts 02361. Harwich 3111rIlIerS: ii. William Storey. 5 Hoyt Road. liarWirltport. 31assitlitt- set N. Orleans Cardinals: .101.n T. Awilyeki. 252 Ash Street. nimbler. !Massachusetts 04140. Wit n1111111 1;:01111.11: Harald Clevelittul 3litrion Road. Wareham, 31itsiotellu- set ts. Yartiolittit Itd Sox :Rirlutrd .1. Terrlo. S Ire House Road. South Yarmouth, 31assacittisetts. Central Illinois Collegiate Imitate: :hick Durenberger, 1920 Gilding, Blooming- ton. Illinois. Bloomington Bobcats: Dennis Bridges 1009 East Jackson. Bloomington. Illinois. Charlestoti-3Iitttoott: Hermit, 29 Circle Drive. Charleston. Illinois. Galesburg Pioneers: Donald W. Bailey. 2425 Costs Drive, Galesburg. Illinois. Mitcomb Macs: C. Herman Witttion. P.O. Box 100. Macomb. Illittols 61411 Peoria Pacers: (Ben 31eCullough. 1303 North Glenwood. Peoria. Illinois. Springfield Caps: Roger L. Moore, P.O. Box 1410 Springfield. Illinois. Heine 1Ieine Seuti-Pro: Tony Grower, 4929 Milsinar. St. Louis. Missouri. E. 41. 11ydrimiles Baseball Teyun : Thomas .1. Eckeltuttn. 7140 Waterman Avenue. St. Louis. Missouri 63130. Raiders Summer Baseball Tenni : Bob Reiner, 12224 Illnekhnll Drive, St. Loins, Missouri 63128. lia1'tuel4ter Baseball Tiltut : Charles .1.Hotitinantt. 902 Pardella Avenue. St. Limbs. Missouri 83125. hods Summer Baseball Waal :Gas Lombardo, 6020 Tholoaan, St. Louis, Missouri. St. Louis Braves : Fred Roberts. 5028 Milled Street. St. Louis. Missouri 63115. Karl Young invitational College Baseball League: Lee L. Egalnick. 3510 West- Illsimr. Holliston. 'resits 77027. Interiors & (Mee Ihtlider4: 31410 IVestheituer. Houston. Texas 77027. Kari Yining Botts : 3810 Westheimer. 11101114011. Texas 77027. T.ighthat. I 3810 Westheimer. Houston. Texas 77027. Soot Wine 11 eta I Produets 3810 West helmet% Houston. Texas 77027. PulleytillSeIntll IsPague : Charles S. Cfeh. Secretary-Treasurer, 1107 Southint- wood Drive Harrisonburg. Virginia. Chit dottesville Hornets: It.II. Goodman. P.O. Box 37145. University Station. Charlottesville. Virginia. Ilurrisonloirg Turks: :fames W. Linewenver. P.O. Mix 4. Harrisonburg. Virginia. Madison enmity blue 311y4: William P. Foley. Madison. Virginia. New 311004 'ream : T.. Donald. Ne 31arket. Virginia. Shetiandmill Indians: ("lodes Ltinkfildl. 510 Seventh Street. Shenandoah. Vir- ginia. Waynesboro Generals : IL M. Poole. 24.10 Mount Vernon, Waynesboro, 297

INIIKI.Exhi:vr TEAMS Alaska floldpanners !in Dennis. P.O. Box 11114. Fairbanks. Alaska. Boulder Muddle Mose hal. 11124 11111 Street. Boulder. Colorado, clting stars. IHarrill. 11. 1723 Bryn Mawr Avelino. Chicago. 111111111s. Fort Dodge Levien I'llevrolet 'ream: .lerry Patterson. 2019 Highland Park Ae hale. Fort Dodge. lown. tfratiti Junction 1:11gles: Rudy Susumu. 21115 Noon Fifth, Grand .Innetion, ('11111. nolo. I ID istenti 1'oboys : Bob considin. . West Smola'. Halstead, Kansas. 111111111111111 Crabs: Neil Barstiglia. 'Mk Street. Area tn. California. Liberal Bee Joy Baseball Assn.. toe.: IV. A. Shafelberger, Jinx 352, Liberal, 1::1 osits 971101. 4 INolilititit11111 Athletics: Albert I.. Wright, 555 Boyd Avenne, Apartmetil 4, Baton Lonislann 71Ast12,

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sporis(s), only such sport (s) asstipulated in the suspension shall be affected. Ityllaysicat Eligibilityterraria: Institutions which are delinquent in tiling eligibilty certilleates with their DistrictHaigbility Chairman (see Article V, Section IX) shall: taBe declared ineligible to participate in anypastseason competition in the sport found delinquent for that season. (hi Cause statistical service NAIA to be withheld until eligibility is clea red. tel Cause participation in all otherSAL% district. area, or national events to be withheld until eleurance for thedelinquent sport is obtained. Id) Cause the institution to be investigatedby the Executive Connuittee of NAIA for possible institutional censure and/orsuspension of the WWI- I MIMI. AnTIcLE 11--GENERAL CoMMITTEEs

SEcTioNs 1 Policies of selection. I I Dual IentbeNhip Policy. IllProcessing of Recommendations. IVCommittees am' Descriptions. SECTION I. POLICIESorSELECTION A great deal of the planning and work on thevarious projects of the NAIAis neomplished by situating committees. which are ambulatedby the NAIA Presi- dent. Eachear the President normally requeststhe District Chairman to t41.' - mit recomnieudations for outstanding persons to serve upon thestanding com- mittees. Each standing committee has a memberof the Executive Committee or a national staff member as coordinator. A chairman andvicechairman are ap- pointed. and the general membership of the committeeis composed of one representative front earl' of the eight NAIA areas. The committeeis selected from outstanding Individuals from member lustitutions who havebeen active in the particular maim which is the field of study of thecommittee and who have shown by performative a dedication to the ideals and standards ofNAIA,

sErt loxII. DUAL MESIDEnsll IP POLICY NAlA member institutions which permit any member of (heir athleticstaff or college administration to serve on any eommitteefor organizing or sullultils- (eying any part of tiw NeAA 'mignon shall therebydisqualify all members of their administration or at Wet lc staff from serving on anyNAIA ronnanwo, *ol:es' .1,;mIcialla. Nathan!' sports Setion or National Sports Advbsory rommit tee. It shall be iittyrhrett91 that this policy shall apply to any commitier tofurther the -cod/rye Pirbtiobi" program of those Federationswhich are under the direction of NVAA, specifically the Basketball, Track and Field,Gymnastics and Wrestling Federations. 4 sEctioN Itt. PRocESSINO OF IlEcoMNIENDATIoNs In urger fur a reeommendation of it committee or segment of X. lo be given approval at the time of the manual meeting, the recommendation shall be inthe bands of the Exemit lye secretary - Treasurer of NAIA at leastthirty(30 days before the date of the annual meeting. All recommendations presented at the titinal meeting. WRIffild having previously been lorpsetdml in Ducurd with the :limne staled procednru, will be "accepted" and .tietbm taken at a later date by the Executive'en:mantel% Mr. livuts. I think he testified, or at least he left the distinctha- pression the N.11 A hasIto Inure noted minents than that. I wish to introduce tutugive VOeStoIM the reeorder oft he Inn bylaws of the N.11A, which specifically provide that ulnternational competi. tion for individuals sanctioned by the individual institution shallbe permitted, procidol it ill apptueed by the .1..11.1 Eaventire Commit- tee."(Emphasis added).

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'fie AM' does not imva meaningful program In either sport. 1 doubt If a member of this SlInvol111111' 've oil Is name an AM' basketball team which employs at least onto fall-time coach, has it regular playing site and plays a regular schedule. As to track and Hell, where are the AAU truck and field teams? How many AM' Nubs employ a fulbtitmc track and field coach? is them rAt AAI' track and geld Nub which hats a regula r. published. seasottlong schedule'! Few, if ally. exist. $111)posts. Vottgrossaten, that one of its hod a son who was 111111444frol hat oltsVtolopIlin his basketball skills to the greatest degree possible. Would we want him to enroll at CAA college under the tutelage of a wellquall- tled M'AA emelt? tar would we prefer that he play for an AAU team? If the latter i i the case, ran anyone here name an AAmalt or team for which he woubl Ilk.. his Non to vol111114), and learn the sport? A &mouth. illustration of this can be found in the fact that if a young man wants to dev..lop skills in truck and geld and basketball beyond high school and mutant attend a college, those skills will not be tIPIVInpV11. The AAU has no quality program for the college dropout or the high school graduate who PhooNt14 not to ID) to ro)11004. This IN one of the most shocking indictments of the AAt's dereliction of duty, especially as it professes to he the sole governing imaly for basketball and tropic and geld lu the United State's. Instead of trying to (output Issues to entbarass the colleges and the ('AA, why doesn't flue AAU spend Its time stimulatinga progratil for these needy individuals. A great begment of young people is not being served. 'flans, the XCAA college prognua is successful beyond question: the AMT domestic program Is a Mime, particularly for the non-college athlete. Please weigh this fact of life before steps are taken to force aura tied changes lu the operations of X('AA nwmber institutions.

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You were director of the N('AA at the time. Specif- ically, do you envision that .hick Langer, that Yale could have been required to declare Jack Langer ineligible if the bill of rights you are talking of had been law at that time t That particular ease I and asking about. Mir. lIvEn. I say to you that the case involving Jack hanger was Yale University's decision not to apply the decision of the ECAC eligibility. and subsequently our council, and as it member institution, it was obligated to apply the rule. The N('AA did not rule Jack hanger ineligible at ally time. The N('AA placed Yale University on probation because it violated an N('AA rule. Mr. O'IlAttA. Let's ask this way: If the athlete's bill of rights had been in effect, do you believe that the NCAA would have been able to put Vale University on probation because of its actions in the Jack Langer case I .Ir. Waits. 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The commission, we suggest, solves that problem, because it givesa (quince to reconcile in our country inadequacies of international repre- sentation, as opposed to having the turmoil taken abroad. I also say this: If there were a case like Langer again, and an ingre- dient of organizational disputes in it, the bill of rights would strike those organizational reasons down, andwe are for that. Other cases. yes, there has been ease after case wliere athletes and organizations have been denied the right, to go abroad in international eompet !film solely because they could not get the so-called clear cus- toms to go abroad. I will give you an example, ( Wry Lindgren. a slitter, long-distance runner from the State of 1% ashingtona few years ago. Ile could not go to Europe and runon his own. Ile bad friends, mut was going to make his own arrangements. lie couldn't go because the AI' would not. give him It pass ant of the country. The AAU wanted II nit to compete on a tour I hey wpm running. I think that should be struck down. I don't want. you to think we are proposing an athlete's bill of rights that cuts one way and not the other. We thinka rule that supports wholly the organization and not the interests of the students,we are willing to have that cut. down. Mr. 011ARA. Are there examples of athletes having lost. their eligi- bility from decisions that you think would have been prevented by the nide V011 advocate ? 31r. li s. Well, I FliPpOSe we Win have to await deeisions from some emirt eases. There are a few pending mutt cases testing that We 1111111 had court cases testing our 1.010 prediction rule. I think two eases are pending on that question now. We have cases questioning our tnmsfer eligibility rule. We have a eourt case in Riehmond testing the validity of our extra events on the tr'ac'k meet. We may tind through that process. not a eongressional bill, we may find in faet the Federal courts think our rides are not educationally sound. Mr. O'llmu. You see, Mr. Byers. we would not be satisfied with the proposed athlete's bill of rights, because I think I can speak for most ofthe members of the subcommittee by saying we think the NCAA and the ECM' were wrong in the Jul.' Laurier case. and we want. legisla- tion that would prevent that. sort of penalty being imposed on an athlete in the future. We think that at the absolute minimmn. and we want to be eon vineed anything we (l() will at least stop what we consider the alms() that, took pimp in the Langer case. Yon have set forth on pages 6 and 7 of your testimony the three fundamental purposes of your rides, and i would like to have you tell us just which of those fundamental purposes were served by the requirement that Jack Langer be declared Median& to play basketball for Yale beeitose of his participation in the Maceabiah games. Could you explain further which of these putposes were served by the XCAA's 2-year ste(pension of Yale rnivertuty's teams in basket- ball and all other spouts? ("maid you respond to that Mr. Rms. Yes, May I get my tile front the hallway ?

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What happened at that time? Mr. Byres. The tour was held. The team came and either college seniors who hail completed their season or noneollege students played against the Russian team that. year. There is one distinction between that time and now in that the A AIT is no longer the international franchise holder now and it was then. Mr. KEMP. Another question, you talked of developing lasting you mentioned in your testimony about a lasting solution insteadof some type of expedient. patehnp job. I would agree with you, I think that is the purpose of the hearings aml certainly the reason I endorsed the chairman's bill to provide some impetus for a long -run and viable solution so as to providefor the welfare of millions of flue, young athletes in the country. I know that is your reason as well. I wonder if you would endorse the principles of a longrun solution outlined in the Wheel committee report. or how you would respond to those principles? Mr. livv.aq. 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Mr. OTIR. Thank you, Mr. Pasch. Mr. Byers has had opportunity to look at the file in the Jack Langer ease. I would like to repeat my question. With respect to the fundamental purpose of the Association'srules and regulations set. forth on pages 6 and 7 I would like to ask, Mr. Byers. which of those purposes were served by the requirementthat Jaek Langer be declared ineligible for further vompetition and by the suspension of Yale University athletic teams for 2 years and in what way those purposes were served Mr. livens. We think the rule that. is the springboard, or wasthe springlioard in the }Weit was never the Longer ease in our terminal- ( rv, it was the )./, /c ease--is a Very Valhi rale, rile ride limits the basketball season as to practice and playingtime and precludes any form of outside competition. There is an exception procedure in that fur internatioLid competition approved by the De- partment of State and the NCAA Council. As I have indicated in my testimony in this statement, there have been ennehes end others desiring to modify that rule for the last three annual conventions to make out-of-season competition much easier for the stnclr it athlete. The council has denied the application. They want, that rule to be tight and sharply enforced, because we have had a lot, of dillicidty in basketball. notonly in the gambling area to which-I think you referred earlier, bit also in usingforeign teams for recruit ing and practice solve eta ge. Let me give you au example. It. developed that a coach would get a foreign team lined up and then he would put, on it a particular attrac- tive prospect. Ile, is recruiting. say. a June graduate and he isgoing abroad in July. He has an all star team and he says, "Son, come to our place and you will get a trip to Africa", or wherever he was going. We had thatproblemand we also had the problem of a coach getting two or three of his players on one team going and therefore,assuring additional training and practice advantages for his squad for the next year. For those reasons. the point T am making is there are other eonsidera- tions in Our out-of- season basketball limitations other than strictly the gambling problem, although the gamblingproblem was the one that. did much to bring about imposition of the rule. The ride, I think, meets the purpose of (A)prevention ofexploita- tion of thestuu ethlete by the mach or outside promoternnd, (11)-1 think the, rule in question meets the requirements of maintain- ing spies act irides within reasonable educational boundaries. As I mentioned earlier, if the coach were given free rein, ho would hare the ball bouncing 12 months n war. That. is the rule that was in question, Is that responsive? Mr. Yes; that is responsive het let me make a couple of observations at this point. One, with respect to the exploitation of the player. in this case, Jack Langer, by the conch, the institution, or out- side promoterslet Me 'mike the record clone that Langer's coach had nothing to do with the Maceabiah Baines, lie was not involved, didn't go. had nothing. to do with mon ng the team, nor didYale have any- thing to do with it. and the outside promoters were the same promoters that. promoted the rest of the Maccabiali games in which NCAA ath 332

IN es eompeted without fear of penalty. that is all other events except basketball that slow vea awl the sante promoters that promoted the Maccabi di basketball in 1984 where NCAA players participated without fear of penalty. In respect to (II). I would call your attention to the fact that Langer was a student in good standing at Yale University who was going to the Maccabialt games during his summer vacation and I find it difficult to understand how it interfered with the educational process in this ease. Mr. livEas. My reference to the rule and its application to (A) and (11) was not specific in the matter of one case. I was speaking to what 1 thought the question was, the rationale of the rule and does it meet (A), (19, and (C). It seems to me you ale questioning whether the !)articular applica- tion of that rule met (A) and (13). I was speaking initially to the rule itself. Mr. My questioar! all along have been directed at trying to put .your statement in specific perspective. so 1 selected a case for you to discuss. Please tell me how you justified your actions and whether or not the legislation you proposed would inhibit you from taking those same actions in an identical case in the futoe Mr. livms. I will try to speak to both parts of that. question. I have the file here and think 1 am a little better acquainted with the facts. You complimented me on my memory but It is not all that ;rood. First, Yttle is a menther of the NCAA, the student athlete is not. I should say these decisions were made by the NCAA council and reviewed on the convention floor after they were !mule. Second. we have never felt that Langer was exploited or used as a pawn by the N('AA. Third, we seriously question Yale's use of Mr. Langer in this instance. Yale encouraged the student athlete to go contrary to the rules Yale had agreed to abide by. They knew they were in violation of the rules of their own con- ference. which are adopted independent of NCAA, the rules of the Eastern College Athletic Conferene, so he was violating two sets of rules. Next there were a number of athletes in the Ivy League and else- where who had the opportunity to go and did not go. I don't have these unities but I think there were two in the Ivy League, two at Penn and possibly one other. There was a boy on the west coast, l'CLA, I think, who didn't, go. Yale, however. encouraged this one young man to go. With regard to other sports. let me interject that there are no rules applicable to many of the other sports in the Maecabiali games of the kind applied to basketball. This ont-of-season prohibition on bas- ketball does not apply to other sports because we don't have problems in the other sports. When Langer returned. Yale would not rule him ineligible. he was found ineligible by the ECAC executive council. Yale would not rule hint ineligible. Ilene is a press release from the ECAC News Bureau which I would like in the record. Mr. O'll.om Without objection it will be entered in the record. [Document referred to follows:] 333 BEST COPY AVAILABLE P' Kteasej AMM 011.1.11C.i ATIII.KTIrVaNtemacmcg Yale tut versify has been censured by the Executive Connell of the Eastern College At !ole Cottferenee for its use In intercollegiate (iminet of Jack Langer. a basketball player declared Ineligible by the Conference's Eligibility Committee. and has been asked to "tease and desist" In such use of the ',Myer. This was announced today by Asa S. Bushnell. elomaissioner of the E.c.A.C.. fallowing a resolution' paSSed by the Council on Tuesday evening. the annuuntr'- anent111111g 11141041 1111th Yale had been notified by telegram of the action. Rusituell's message further stated that "if Vale decline's to comply with this directive the Executive Council shall refer the matter to the Conference member- ship fur consideration of possible' further penalty. .. ." lanow was declared ineligible for intereolleglate competition icy the Committee after 1w had competed in the Maeestidah Games last AIM- O' without the special permission front the 1.1.C.A.C.required by Conference regulations. Such pmnission must be predicated upon State Departmentapproval and NCAA waiver, but the latter was Met torthening. Thetext of the telegraphed resolution. sent to De Laney Kipituth, athletic director at Yale, follows: "The Exeentive Commit of the Eastern CollegeAthletic Conference supports the September22action of the E.C.A.C. Committee on Eligi- bility in decreeing ineligibility for Jack Langer of Yale and further censures Tale for its use' in intercollegiate eompetition of this ineligible player.The Executive Connell directs that Ya le University humediately cease and desistin such use of an ineligible player. If Yale declines to comply withthis direetive the Executive Council shall refer the matter tee the. Cnuferencemembership fur clinsideratiou of possible further penalty under the provisions of(constitution. Article Flom Seetion VIII." The cited eonstItutional article makes the organixation'smember colleges as a issly responsible for dealing withviolations of the Conference's rules. regula- tions stand obligations of membership. It designates whatdisciplinary action can be taken and the 1111411114114 Icy which such can be implemented. Mr. BYEIts. It is dated Deeeniber 10, 1901and sets forth the fact the exeeutive contain supports the decision ofthe Eastern College. At!iletic Conference taken December 22 in the caseinvolving Jack Langer of Yale and censures Yale. The ease (lime to the NCAA on the basis ofwould Yale apply the rule toLnivr. Let Inc Make dear Whittit means when a student athlete paticipates in an uncertified event. This will be trite in the. Russian track meet, the Russian basketball series, or the events ofJack Langer.If the competition is not approved, the institution is required to rulethe student. athlete ineligible. However. the lust aution has full right to appeal thatineligibility itimiediateiyto the NC.1A emmuittee on eligibility, andthen to the Connell, second. if itis not satisfied with that. &vision, and then, finally, to the eon vent ion floor. Yale would not rule the boy ineligible inaccordancewith the 1' ('A(' rule; Ohin aceordance with our rules. it could have ruled that boy ineligible. I suspect if it followed the rules on the ineligibility inattc,.s, t hat boy would have been reinstated. I dn't think anybody in the LICAC or NCAA thoughtthey were committing a erinie. The problem came with Yale. a member ofboth orgunizattons. whichstendfastiv refused to follow the rules the mem- bership est..)ilislied for ineligibflity cases. They absolutely refused to follow that procedure. That is whatled to the penalties on Yale. Is that satisfactory

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Mr. O'ItAttA. Yes. that is% I believe that answers my question. 1 am going to have 10 go du and get back to Mr. De 'Heidi:irk. Letme say this, Mr. Byers, with respect to the assertion in your testimony that the adoption of lilt. 56.23 would prevent ins! itutions of higher edneation from maintaining proper standards for its student athletes, for preventing athletic departments or coaches from taking discipli- nary action against an athlete whose :talons would warrant it. I. want to make it clear 1 haveno Hach intention, the legislation would not permit that interpretation. it doesn'tseem to me. What we an, saying is t len the student athlete should be held to the same standards as any other student. If he wishes to go off and com- pete in a forebril track meet andas a onsequenee of Ills having done so, he misses class, he misses examinations, he Mils behind in hisaca- demie work, there is nothing inmy legislation that would permit that institution of higher education from suspending that studentor from expelling him for academicreasons so long as the standard they a! pplied to 111111 was the same standard they applied to every other student. It wonhhist matter whether hewas off competing in a track meet or spending it week on the beach at Fort Lauderdale.If he misses class, falls behind in aeademie work, he is subjectto academic discipline. Second, with respect to the athletic department of the coach,every team I ever heard about lins team rules,you have to appear at all the ga Hies, you have to appear at all the sessions unless youare excused for sonic, rea:;o11. von fail to appear at a practice or an event in whichyour team is scheduled to part ieipate,you are subject to being suspended from the team or expelled from the team. Nothing, on legislation Mild any chine in that.. If student athlete goes off and part icipates inan international event and, as a ronAitineure. misses two track meets his university is engagedin, and he has not been excused fir that,purpose, then lie can be thrown oil' the team as far as our legislationis concerned, so long as the same standard that is used to discipline him isused on the other members of that team, and whetheror not it was an international unsanctioned event lie went oil' to compete in,or a sanctioned event he went off to SIilippte in, if you want to apply the standards equally andfairly, we have no complaint with that. For instance, at the Iiehmond trackmeet., if Chris Dunn of Colgate bad been going offon a. Friday night anti a Saturday to play the bongo in a live-piece orchestra, I don't think liewould have run into the problems he didor (hat Colgate did with NCAA, and so we think that what von have done in the Longeryaw, which I think is the best exam- ple of it, and in otherCaSeS, is you have tried to exert your organiza. non's power in a way that wouldpromote the aims of your organiza. tion. it has very little regard for thewelfare of the student athlete volved. That is why we are here today. We wouldnot be here if we did not think t hat. might say maybe it is unfortunate publicrelations but, if you were to go out into the hallway and ask the first10 citizens you saw what thew opinion of the matterwas, 1 ant sure you would find them more or less in agreement with me. 335 BEST COPY AVAILABLE

I ant sorry, but that is the way it is. Our legislation wouldnot pro- hibit the university or the team from taking diseiplinary nolo!'so long as they were not doing it for the sole reason that that student or tit talent athlete had not lawn part ici pat i ng in sometliingyou had not sanctioned. Mt.. liiats. May I respond to that ? Air. 0'1 Imt.%. Yes. Nit. linats. 1 don't quarrel with your good intentions, 1 Ir. Chairman, or those of other members or the eommittee interested in this particular piece of legislation. I would have to make severalcomments to your remarks and appreeiate t he elothee todo I don't think, with all due respect.your bill says what you envision in your mind, the bill does not haveon the printed pap the words you are using. Secondly, i ran tell you. and I thinkevery athletic director in this room will tell you, the same thing, it is absolutely, without question, impossible to manage an intercollegiate athleticprogram by treating the st Intent athlete the sauteas you treat. the bongo player or debater. 1 t is not a fart of I i fe you eau do that. Fiftyyears of experience with the Nt 'A A is overwhelming testininiiy to that.I am sure all of you are aware that institutions of higher edueationart enormously jealous of institutional prerogatives; institutionalautonomy is what the presi- dents and faulty constantlyargue for. It is true that they have yieldedsome of the institutions' autonomy to their athletic conferences, which havea whole variety of rules for a thief it participation; amid to it lesser degree. they yieldedsome institu- tional autonomy to NCA A. Why? Iteeause it was absolutely necessary and essentialto do so for the proper management of intercollegiate athletics.That is the only reason institutions across the country have yieldedsome rights to their organisation, so that proper athletics could be controlled.The reason you don't have similar rules in debate, or any other extracur- ricular activity you wish to discuss, isbecausecause the need is not there. I can say it. would be absolutelya disaster for the intercollegiate program of this country if we tried to run aprogram in which them could not he legislation togovern intercollegiate athletics because it is not applicable to other students engagedin other extracurricular activities, Mr. O'ITARA. Mr. Eseh. Mr. ERCIL I want. to make sure, and I certainlyconcur there have been mistakes made in the past, buteven in the light of that, is he suggesting that every amateur athlete oughtto be a free agency so if he is dismissed from one team, he couldautomatically go to another team without a penalty or another school withoutpenalty? Is he suggesting we should give the individualathlete the ability to berme a completely free agent.? Mr. 011imt.t. With respect to his ability to changefrom school to school. I think that rules exist with respectto that. Our legislation proposes to make no change with respect to transfers fromone school to another. I think there have linen some arbitrary actions inthat regard, but we don't propose to deal with them. We hada witness testify to that a few days ago. Atr. Peyser? 336

Mr. l'Evsca. It's been a long morning. I know. I am appreciativeof your Coming here today with your pelip le, In reading your testimony and listening to it, I want you to under- stand that this committee is out omit to get the CAA. Asa matter of fact. I think most of us agree the Ne.S.A. tines an outstanding job in areas not in intereollegiate activities. The NCA.\youth program, for example, that is a tremendous emit ribution to the country. But we VP. grave concerns that have ken created by specificinstances ill the inter- national area where the ruited States is being represented in inter- national competition. The legislation we are diseussing really deals with this international question. To give yon an idea of the depths of the concern facing the people of this eountry today as refleeted in their Representatives,aside 1'1'0111 the fact that between Congressman ()linnet; and my own legis- lation, we have over SO and possibly90eustionsors in the Hoax% of Representatives,1 iinve just. receiveda few minutes ago tl letter tIst addressed to YOU and Will Is' delivered to you. This is a letter from Members of the l*.S. Semitesentto me by Senator Cook, who its you know, hasiieen act ire in this area. 'Phis has signatures of 2 Republicans. 23 Democrats. S committee chairmen, and 9 ranking minority members of the committees. (The doemnent requested to follows :] SuNATE. Cost strrox ox Ju1)11 tAk1, Washington, March 20, 1073. Mr.WALTER BMA, 1..s.reenti re Director, Nathaniel l'alleglate Athletic, Asnarlatlan, Kleiman rill/.Mn. MARMn.MEWAsa member of the United States Senate, in un effort to promote and encourage international athletic competition, and continuing the spirit of ninItluatIonall cultural exchange. Irespectfully urgeyou to penult athletes of N('AA member institutions to participate in the forthcoming series of basketball games with the Russian National Team, without fear of reprisal or penalty to those athletes or institutions. yours sincerely, Marlow W. Cook Ky.: Robert T. Stafford. Vt.; Barry Goldwater, Ariz; Strom Thurmond, S.C.; J. Glenn Beall, Md.; Clifford Hansen, Wm: James IA Eastland. Miss.; J. W. Fulbright, Ark.; lbward 11. Baker. Tenn.; James A. McClure, Idaho; Edward J. Guntey, Qttentin N, Burdick, N. 1)uk. ; Lowell P. Wacker, Jr.,OMR.: teeMetcalf. Mont.; Walter D. Iluddlestott, KY.; George McGovern, S. Dak.; Charles 11. Percy, Ill.: Vance Hank**. Ind.; Henry 1101111111. Okla.; MiltonIt.Young. N.D.; Joseph M. liontoya, N.Mex.; Jennings Randolph, W. Vu.; Dewey P. Bart- lett.Incla.: Hiram L. rook Hawaii; Frank II.Moss, Utah; Walter F. Mondale, Minn.; John U. Pastore, R.I.; Lawton Chiles, Flu.: ohn I,. NIcriellan. Ark.: Gale W. Nleflee, Wyo.; William H. lititlinWay, Maui.'; Stuart Symington. Mu.: (WI T. (*finis, Neb.; l'ilfford l'ase, N.J.: F. Bennett. Utah; !Wien 11. Humphrey, Minn.; Mike Gravel, A1'114E11; John V. 'humpy. Conf.; HammE. Hughes, Iowa; Thomas F. Flowleton, Mo.: Adial Stevenson. III. 111.; Birch 'Wyk Incl.; Mark D. Hatfield.trelt. Boman Hruska. Nebr.;MI Stevens, Alaska ;AIM:Cranston, Harrison Williams, N.J.; Hugh Scott, Edward M. Kelitlefly, Mass.: William SaNlie. Ohio : Gaylord Nelson. Wis.; Lloyd Bentsen, Tex.: 1101) POPkWINd,Oreg.; William Roth. Del.; J. 1114mo Johnston, La.; Mike Nbnoitield, Mont.: Edlitund S. Motskic, Maine ; Thotntts3. McIntyre, Nil. Mr. l'grstia. Theyrepresent AllStates in this country. turd they indicate that they just put this together in the last day and ahalf. They probably could have had the entire. Senate. Thislettersays:

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M the Small, in aneffortto promote and eneourage athietie competition and to eonlinne the spirit a woltInational voltam, exchange, I respectfully large you to permit athletes of Ne.%.t member institutions to partici- linty in the forthcoming series of basketball games with theRussian National Team, without fear of reprisal or penalty to those athletes or institutions. To add to that. thismorning I received word concerning Hill 'Walton who is certainly well known to all of us and is one of the outstanding college basketball players in the country. Based On the inhumation Ieeived this morning, 3Ir. 1Va Iton will be calling you or reaching your office inKUID1404this lifter110011, with the personal request to you that he he enabled to play in the games against the Russian teams. Coupled with that statement, the request of the U.S. Senate Mem- bers. the lienthers of the !louse of Representatives, who have too long a list to run through. I am just wondering if youcan't make a major step forward for your organization this afternoon and for the country by saying. in spite of the problems of the past, that we can put aside what many .of us have considered, rightfully or wrongly, a bickering power struggle between the NCAA and AAU. (Item' Cunningham. a great miler in our eountry, was in Washington lastttrday. I le gave a simple statement he said he would appreciate it if I would see that this become a matter of record: Thisis a stupid. ridiculous situation where the amateur athletic organiza- tions use the athletes aspawnsfor their own selfish interests. I think this legislation is long overdue. Representative l'eyser is to be con- gratulated on his hill. It will enable amateur athletes to compete without fear of /wingruled hiplIgIble by one organization or another. Iftheseorganiontionswerereally interested Inpromotingamateur athletics, us they pretend to be, they could easily resolve their differences. I would like to make a suggestion and I would appreciate hearing from you on this, if this isn't the time. Perhaps the first step could he made by your ork,ranization to give the permission at this tune for the NCAA athletes, the basketball players who want to compete be- Noise of their skills, to compete inthecompetition that is coining up with theRussians. Iwould appreciate your comment on this. Mr. Mr. Peyser. let me say I appreciate your good inten- tions withthecomments you have made.and I wantto thankyouin behalf of all these colleges here and elsewhere who have appreciated your support inseeing that the National Summer Youth Sportspro- grains halvecontinued. . For thoseof younot aware ofthe program, it is run at over a bun- deed colleges where collegiate moneyputsup about 4ti percent and the Federal Governmentputs up NI percent for youngpeople not hav- ing money to go away to summer camp. We have other services we iwrform which we think are beneficial to the Nitt ion. We thank you forthesupport you have given in that area. It is a goodprogram. We are also appreciative of the interest ofthe people youmentioned there, Senators and others, also appreciative ofthe concern of this subcommittee. I am sure that no one issuggesting that the NCAA adopt a double standard. I am sure you and others of the Congress who are involved in legislation and desire American people's respect for the legislation 338 you adopt are not. suggesting to the collegesof the NCAA that we should apply a double standard, that what. applies to the Pasadena Tournament of Roses Assoeiation should not apply to the AAII, or what applies to the Los Angeles Times Charities, Inc., should not apply to the AAU. We cannot live with our membership, much less live with our own conscience by doubledealing with people we have to live with end deal with. I don't anticipatemaybe this is antieipatoubut I. don't an- ticipate you are suggesting that, but 1 do make the point. I also want you to be aware of the fact that there IS no agency within the association to change the rules of the NCAA other than by conven- t ion action. This goes to Mr. Dellenback's question. 1k wants to know whether the Council controls everything and whether the executive stair in that isolated cave in Kansas City runs everything. If I were to sit here and say to you. "Why, certainly, we will change all our rules for you." it seems to me it would confirm some of the con- cerns expressed by some members of this subeommittee concerningthe operations of the NCAA. 1 do want to say there is no agency, the Council, or anybody else that can change a piece of legislation embedded in the bylaws of theconsti- tntion of our association other than the annual convention where the members vote. Mr. Prxsy.s. You made a statement. and I would like to be sure I understand it, dealing with this authority that you have. The question is whether you have this authority to excuse members and allow them to compete in this eompet it ion. I guess what I tun really asking you and the other organizations to do is put aside as time!' as possible this feud and to think that. the United States of America has a team in competition, and we want to put our best team forward and that this calls for some extreme action. I am rending from the NCAA manual, 1971 -72; it is section 5(d), paragraph (d). It says. "If the Council after review of the institu- tional or conference action taken in connection with a rule infraction concludes that the corrective or punitive action taken by the institution or conference is representative of and consistent with NCAA policies and principles, the Council may exercise the discretion to take no fur- ther action." In other words, von could, in effect, as I nnderstcnd this, decide that this situation would not embody any infraction or penalties with it and by so doing you would, in effect., release these athletes to compete in this particular competition. Then we would be in a position, per- haps, to really address ourselves to the problem of how do we solve what has been for years a very difficult situation between the NCAA and the AAU and get this situation worked out. Right now the Members of Congress, the Members of theSenate, and thepublic at large, the Americanpeople all want these athletes to be able to compete. Based on your ownrules, I think youhave the authority to allow these peopletocompete. Mr.BURLCongratulations on your research. Followingupin what I was saying about the double standard and so on, I will give you thisc. -mple and then I will be responsive to your question in a moment.

0'1 330 After ITS(' won the Rase Bowl and Oklahoma won the SugarBowl. we had an offer $24/2 million from the Astrodome to permit INC and Oklahoma to play one more football game, for Niearaguanrelief. I must say, the interest you eited was not, as extensive hi that ease as in this, but I want to say to you there was emisiderable pressurevisited upon the University of Olchilionin andITSCto cooperate in the venture and pressure on the NCAA to permit it. Regarding your question, I don't think we can, in handling our en- forcementproralures, make commitments on what t y Will he if yon deeide not, to obey the rules. I don't think that is the procedure. I think. however, that. there is it procedure available to ns, and I have conferral with my Ayers regarding it. Parenthetically. if Yale had clone what they shou4,1 have done ns an institutional obligation of membership aril appealed Langer heel: under that proeedure, we might not have had a problem. That was the point I was trying to get through earlier in my comments to the chairman. I don't think it is tub isahle to countenance or to give permission for nonobservanee of the rules by the promise of no enforcement later out for certain people and not others. We did not do it in Nicaraguan relief. We did not have the author- ity. I think in other sections of the current NCAA manual, however, there is a way which a solution can be approached, which does not put the NCAA in the position of living by a double standard with its own members and with institutions and people outside our own family. I have not received the actual number, I think that the provision in- volved is constitution 3-9(f). The officers have conferred earlier with the possibility of this inter- pretation without council and they think it is a reasonable interpreta- tion that the American team need not be considered a college all-star team. If you make that interpretation, that removes the proposed com- petition from the extra events legislation that deals in a certain area and throws it solely under the foreign compeitition legislation, which subjects such competition to review by the Council, as I have noted. *Under that provisionconstitution 3-9Wthe Council has author- ity to grant exceptions for out-of-season competition in connection with bona fide foreign tours. There is a 30-de v proviso; that is fo that a rea- sonable amount of planning might be a part of the action. In deference to theCbalIVIRri andthe subcommittee, and the desire to see some progress made, as you have described it. Mr. Peyser, and without in the slightest relaxing our opposition to the planning, pro- motion, and timing of the tour, the 11th hour promotion through a network, and all the related academic problems of the students raised by a competition coming at the end of a tough tournament season, the officers of the Council are amenable to amending the 30-day require- ment, providing the AAP will apply for approval just as any other sports organization in the country does, so we are not in the business of double timing our friends. I might say this approach has been reviewed here and ver :. (wieldy by the NCAA staff with our President. It has also been reviewed with the acting chairmun of the ABA, the Amateur Basketball Association, which is going to become this country's member of the international 20-723- 74-23 340 basketltall federal ion, and he advises nailer the present situation where the AA r is no longer the franchise holder, he does not think we have to have approval of 141 li.t, or the interim Mr. Myszn. Do I understand you are saying in the simplest terms that the NCAA will lift any restrictions at this time on college play- ers who wish to compete in this present tone in competition withthe Russians and. in effect, whether it is Hill Walton or any other highly planned player, the NCAA will not stand in their way ? Mr. Dzt.t.zxnAcK. Will my colleague yield? I have read your com- ments to us as containing a position dependent that there must be an applivation by the AAr? NI r. liviats. That is correct, Mr. Dzi,LExii.u.K. tf they make applivation, yon have opened up udder your normal procedures a possibility which couldbe deter- minedm in very short order. We could have an answer, I undPrstnna. perhaps by this afternoon, if the AAr makes application, as to whether you (amid grant. approval ? Mr. Bylaw. Yes. Dzia.zsnAtc. Mr. Chairman, in view of the tightness of our time, maly we ask your intentions relative to this hearing? Mr. 0 IlAnA. 1 'had said earlier We would have to go to an afternoon session. What I would now like to do, with the agreement of the MPOI hers of the committee, is to recess for 15 minntes to give us an oppor- tunity top over to vote and come back, and we will be into our after- noon session if that is all right with the witnesses? Mr. Hymns. Fine. Mr. OThitA. All right, we will return at 1 o'clock to make sure we can get over and bal.k and that will give all of you an opportunity to make a couple of phone calls or do whatever you want with your time. The committee will stand in recess until 1 p.m. I Whereupon. at 12:40 p.m., the subcommittee recessed to reconvene at 1 p.m. the same day.] AFTERNOON SESSION Mr. O'HARA. The Special Subcommittee of the House Committee on Education and Labor will come to order. At the conclusion of the morning session, we were hearing Mr. Walter Byers, executive director of the NCAA and other witnesses from that organization. Byers is now in his place. and we will now continue with the questioning. Following ND.. Byers, appearance we will hear our other witnesses scheduled today and conclude our hearings today. Mr. Peyser? Mr. PzYszn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I will be brief so the other witnesses have the opportunity of testifying. I would like to go back, it we may. Mr. Byers. to the point where we were interrupted due to the vote on the floor. Asunderstand it, you stated that if the AAr we are speaking now to one specific situation. which is the presentbasketball series be- tween the American players and the Russian playerswere to make appliention to the NCAA, that the 30-day rule would be waived, and that the consideration of that application have no other factors

n "1,4?.% A" 341 involved or no other organizations that would have tobe involved except strictly the AM' and N(' AA,is that correct ? Mr. linas. To the latter point of yourquestion. that is correct. Let the say it in my words to make sure we aresaying the same thing. i f that is permissible. We are saying, after consultationwith the officerswe have checked with enough people nowthat the NCA A'sprepared to waive the no-day mini rettwitt as volt have described.We also have ellecked with the persmt responsible for knowing theexisting international rule and find that we do not have a problem therebecause of the current situa- tion. says this tour is inorder as far as they are concernedbecause there is no ruling at this moment exceptfor an interim convenor, So it is correct that if the council approves one or moreof these games that approval does not have to be approved orseconded by anybody else. I do want to make a couple of other comments.It is not in any sense a hedging onwhat. I said, but I don't want a misunderstandinglater because we were not clear. I. am not saylet me start from adifferent point. I am not saying that the Connell, I am not guaranteeingthat the Connell will approve this tour, but I tun saying. if theAAIT completes those forms, we will airm nail special or semi them by telefax to ourCouncil members so they will have the fo: ms before tlwm. We will immediately initiate a Council call andtake a vote on the matter by conference call. Mr, PEYstat. I have just heard from theoffices of the AAIT in In- dianapolis that they are willing to make thisapplication and I think that they are doing it as yon are doing it atthis time, in the best in- terests of the country to see that we can putforth a good representative American team in this competition. I wouldhope at this time that it in no way puts to bed the entire issue we arediscussing, because that is in no way one issue or one event, but it doesshow the feeling of cooperation between you and the Aul." to work outsomething. The AAI' has indicated they would authorize thecompletion of the application via a telephone through one of theirrepresentatives in Washington. If you bad such an application with you or yourstaff, the A AI' is willing to 7nthoriv the completion via atelephone and get it to you tmlay to mak this thing really move. Wouldthat lic acceptable, or is it nosmble for you to do that? Mr. IlYtelt.t. We have soeh application at hand. Wewould want writ- ten assurances that the person from the AAIT whois filing this appli- cation is authorized to act for the association, Mr. lizYsEn. Of course. without any question that wouldbe required and my understanding is they would agree to do thatand would per- sonally by phone contaet you to give you that directauthorization. We would like to proem! on thatits, let's say. a step forward at this time and if an application could be Made available, amember of my stall' would be glad to emtvey this to the peopleinvolved here and get moving on it. We would like to get that partwrapped up this after- noon. No further qustions, Mr. Chairman. 342

Mr. Bytns. Mr. Peyser, I want to bringto your attention one other point. Again in the interest of avoidingmisunderstanding, there are a number of athletic conferences that have rules about this allon their own. They are not NCAA rules. Iam not saying these conferences are going to waive their miles. The AtlanticCoast Conference, forex- ample, may havea rule that when it is near exam time, nobody may go any place. Mr. Pzystn. Iam not asking you to commit. any other organization. A college may say they don'twant their students to compete, that is their business. Weare trying to clear the air on the issue between the AAIT and NCAA. I appreciateyour statement, but I am not expecting anything from the other organizations, justfrom you0. SIr. Buns. Then onlyto pick up one observation you made, sir, that it does tend to alleviate theimmediate problem, and I would hope,we would hope, speaking for, I think,everybody in the room here from the colleges, that itwouldafford time to this subcommittee to give further study to the .problem. Wesay to you earnestly and sincerely we think there are ingredients here, principlesavailable that have been discussed that could be shapedup into a long range solution. I think at this time,care and deliberation is more in the interest of all of us than haste. Mr. PRYSER. 'Thankyou. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. O'HARA. Mr. Dellenback Mr. DELLExnAcx. Thankyou, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Byers, before we letgo of this one, may I ask a couple more questions. Assuming that this applicationcan be submitted immediately, is it correct that. the application can he submitted bythe AAIT to cover the entire tour? Oris it incorrect that the AAIT can submit a singleap- plication to cover all the proposedgames on this tour? Mr. livEns. The application has threeparts, one has to do with the general issues likeinsurance and team physician and things like that. Another has to do with the coaches and athletes,and a third has to do with individual games. I did not explain thisvery well. In any event, it is possible forone person, if he knows the sites of thegaiiies and the arrangements, to fill out the third part which would bean individual form for each of the separategames. He can do that here, but he will have to have the information to fill it out. Mr. Det,t.msnitcx. It would not benecessary, however, for any or- ganization in any of the individual citieswh sre the games would be played to join in that application, is thatcorm t? Mr. ByEns. Let me refreshmy memory on it, if you will. Mr. Dmi,Exnitox. Letme say, while you are looking at that, at the time when we Arad representatives of theNCAA and the AAIT before us before and your Mr. Hansen was representingyou, I was struck by the complete willingnesson his part and on the part, if you will, of the representatives of the AMY. Genuinely, to try to work somethingout. We appreciate very much what you are now demonstratingon this one particular issue. I wanted to say to you I commend your Mr. Hansenfor the fine way heex- es. f rib BEST COPY AVAILABLE 343 pressed himself as we strived urgently to try to work something out. Mr. ByEas. We appreciate those remarks. My information is correct, if lie lots the information,one person coula execute the whole form. Mr. DELExlIACK. I think that is important. With the time limita- tions, if we have to go to eight different cities and get two organizations to join in, we are against a time bind almost impossible to meet. What you indicate to me and to the subcommittee is that if there is a representative of the AAU and who is duly authorized by the AAU, this, of course, you would have to satisfy yourselfon, he can take forms which are in your present possessionso it could be done this afternoon. Ile could fill out the forms and, providing he has thenecessary data I assume he could get, that by telephone ifnecessary and he could coin- ii.lete doing that, this afternoon, then that, would bea valid applica- tion for )1/11 to then act upon? Mr. Butts. That is correct. Let me supplement that by this, I don't want to suggest toyou that we are going to ignore inadequate completion of the questionnaire, nor are we going to waive standards that we apply to any other organiza- tion. Mr. DEL NBACK. I assure you that so far as our subcommittee and our interest in this particular problem is concerned it is not to seek to ret you to condone an operation that is inadequate. If you Lind that the arrangements would not measureup, then I think you ought to be free to net on that. in that form, but I just wanted to be sure about the nature of the application and whether or not it would be adequate if it covered the entire tourversus individual applications. Then, because time really becomes important in this, how rapidly, assuming the application were to be given to you this afternoon, would you and your council be able to net on it? C!ould you move in such a rapid fashion that it would be able to be determined by the morning? Mr. BYEIM No; I don't think that is feasible. I would imagine that the procedure we would follow --I think you are optimistic inyour premise, I don't believe they will have the information at hand for all these competitions. But setting aside your optimistic premise. and it would be here this afternoon, I would think we would Iransmit it to all Council members by telefaxmaybe I already said thistelefax or airmail speuiat, they would have it in front, of them, and then we would initiate a conference telephone call and, if the forms would be here this afternoon, and we could displicaor them and airmail themor transmit by telefax, and we could transmit them this afternoon if the mails go as we hope they go, we could have it conference call, I think, by Friday or Saturday. Mr. ikt.txxliAca. Sousse of us have a little less confidence In the instantaneous delivery of the mails than we mire had. If teleeopy facilities were mule available to you here on the Hill, would it be possible to get them out this afternoon ? Mr. 13yEits. Yes; it is a question of whether thesource has the same equipment, but, right. Mr. Dia,t,Exii.wit. 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r7 tm,4 t. 4 BEST COPY AVAILABLE.' 344 tore and we are not interested in beinginvolved in a question that is going to become an abort before the missionis 11M01111)11(31110(12 but it is my understanding that the selection ofathletes to participate is underway almost literally at this moment, and that someof the eligible athletes have been contacted. This means you arein it situa- tion where a day or two will actually be thedeterminer whether athlete A or athlete X is requested or invited toparticipate. tio, it would seem to me that. Friday or Saturday isquite far out. whereas tomorrow or Wednesday is still afeasible time. I don't mean to intrude into something that is your concern,other than expressing this concern that the matter isalmost at the stage where if it is to be effective I gather it needs to be done in a veryfew days. ry. BYERS. We certainly will proceed expeditiouslyand we have never tried to say %vt$ are going to dosomething and then not do it, or delay it to be ineffective. I do want to make this point, we are most sensitive aboutthis, we are quite irritatedi by it, that is the pressurevisited on individual ath- letes, the fabrication and distribution of false quotations, the encour- agement of college athletes to violate college and NCAArules by out- side parties. This has °mimed. If the procedure is going to be one ofsaying to athletes now, "Everything is cleared up, it is routine, come alongand make it commitment; that would be a misrepresentation. It will not deter our processing of this application, I thinkit merely rein forces our points. I know nothing of the fact Bill Walton is going tocall Kansas City. I hope he does; he is a super young man. The Los Angeles Times ran an article that Bill Walton wasdraft- ing a letter to write to President. Nixon. Bill Walton never didthat, his best friend on the team said he never drafted a letter toPresident Nixon; Bill said he had not, but the story got wide circulation. We are cooperating, gentlemen. we are on record wewill cooperate and we will. lint what this does is open up athletes tointensive pres- sure, which is one of the reasonsthese rules are in the book. if they are going out and pressure theseathletes to do things they may not want to do, they are 18-, 19-year-oldboys, and we will resent it considerably. Ntr. DELt.txuAex. I understand and, as far as this oneMember is coneerned. I have not attempted to quote anybody else as towhether it be WIllt011, 1)(0 GregOriOt or anybody else in thebook as to whether they would be willing to play or not.. I join with you.I don't want to put any of these young men under unfair pressure. All I am concerned about is to try to understand what hasbeen said so that whatever is going to follow, follows, and everyoneknows it. When I indicated the selection process was underway.I didn't mean to imply young men werebeing selected who are in NCAA schools and who should not he pressured under thesecircumstances. Thither the implication I meant to confer, drawn fromwhat I under- stand of the situation, is assuming that the NCAA athletes are not going to be participatlu ig. flint means there may be selections of other athletes. If that is not tbe the case, if there are to he some of the

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NCAA athletes available, then the A.11' might not proceed with certain other selections. That was the only time pressure I meant to allude to. Mr. INYsEu. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. 141.1.zx WK. VeS, Mr. l'zystm. 1 agree completely with what Congressman De lien- back said. As far as I am eoncerned, there is no effort to open the door to any player for pressure. saying, "Come on, it's all settled." There is nothing settled, until the application is completed by the AM' and you have it chance in your commitee to review it and ap- prove it for the public statement. I would say to athletes all over, there is nothing settled. I would like to say, in deference of getting it moving as quickly as we can, if you do have a copy of un application present. 1 would. like to have a member of my stall' be able to pick one tip because the AAUpeople would be willing to net to work on it right away. Mr. 0'11mm. Will the gentleman yield to ale Mr. I 43.1.EN WK. Yes, sir. Mr. limos. We anticipate there are going to be competitions and it will not be possible to approve because I don't think they have mink. the arrangements. so when you see it come short, I want to Hag ,vou, if yousee it come short of eight games, it will be somebodyelse's fault. Mr. OM %ft.%. l'onr assistant, Mr. Hansen, was before us a month ago. He said it is the position of the NCAA that the tourproposed by the AAU, to wit, this basketball tour, would seriously jeopardize the success aademivally of College player who might participate. Is that still the view of the NCAA ? Mr. IIVKS. Yes, Sir, I told you at the outset that we have all the reservations about this tour that we voiced before. We think it is poorly scheduled, scheduled at the wrong time. Thv should give the AM* n Lenin star to bring a Russian team here in April to aecommodate the. Russians because they are going to South Anwrien. These boys an' in classrooms taking exams. We think it is it bad time, but in deference to you and the committee, we are trying to cooperate. I am sorry to sneak cm strongly as I do. but we feel very strongly. O'ilmo.%. Hold on a minute. I want it clear that the committee believes that any athlete who has reason to believe that his academie career would be jeopardized by participating is not being asked by this committee to do s°. Flaw Were n muuber Of players, IIS you pointed out, who were asked to participate in the Olympie games who chose not to do so, I. hope and trust thew will be Mayers asked to participate in the Series with the Soviet rnion thatwill decide their academic welfare pre clades their participation. No one on this committee is trying to say that the academic welfare of these students COMPS second, I don't want that impression to get. around. Mr. James is here today, I would like to ask him a question if I Might. Mr. James, at that. hearing a month ago, Mr. Hansen rend a gate- molt from you hi whinwlanlp you said, "Academically the tour is deti- mental, three of the ACC schools are in final exams and this would AVAILABLE BEST COPY 346

serve as It detriment. Any outof-season competition must beapproved by the academic chairman of a player's institution. I doubt any ACC institution would approve pirticipation even if the NCAA were to bark the tou." Then a lit tie later on, "Couple this with 2 weeks on the tour and a player would lose too much class time of the year, besides the player would he physically and mei. tally tired from the long season." Does that still represent your view ? Mr. JAMS. Yes, sir; our competition of all our sports is concluded this year on the week of the 10th of April, for one specific reason, to pilivide an opportunity for 'that young man to successfully complete his neademic pursuits. We have, as mentioned there, institutions whose final examinations begin the last, week in this month or very early in May. Coaches, when I talked tothem aboutit, I talked to a group, felt to adequately prepare this team that a coach should be given a nummum of 2 and preferably 3 weeks. The assembling of a group of talented athletes does not in itself indicate they will be a team unless they are given this opportunity. So when t added the time in preparation. 2 to 3 weeks, plus 2 weeks on the tour, sir, I can't see how a young man could miss thatmuch time from his classroom. I said that with all sincerity and I believe it now. Mr. 01 km. Thank you very much for letting us know what your thoughts are. Do you still doubt that any ACC institution would approve parti- t ion ? Mr. J...3tEs. That is my personal opinion. We have a rule in our Conference that any competition by any one of our athletes other than that scheduled by the hirgtitution must have the written approval of the faculty chairman of his hist lint ion. We have a basketball team of one of our member institutions at this time which is considering a foreign tour. It happens to fall at a time when it would have to advance the final examination schedule for a number of the players to do this. It has been a minimum of 10 days that they have been researching each player on that team to see what this would do because, as is probably going to happen here, sir, a young man would want this competition. As Mr. Evers said, he ntight evaluate his academic success a little bit differently than someone who would be looking at it from a long term pnsibil sty. Mr. OilitiA. Thank you very much. Mr. DELT.RNILIC At this stageonce again the Pavlovian reaction must take place, we have to go vote. But I would like to make this brief statement. There is no question sports have become important, in many ways a vital part of the lives of many Americans. Certainly the majority of the male population of this country and I think a growing percentage of the female population identify with sport, whether as spectators or as participants. When there is n problem in sports activities between two major bodies that our citizens can't understand, there are questions. I join with you and would be reluctant to see the Federal Govern - ment moving into control of sports competition. However, if there is a 347 serious chance t hat athletes or spectators are going to be abused by an argument of any nature, then I believe we have an obligation to take action. I don't want any action we take in an attempt to solve one problem to create a host of other problems. That is why I want to be very care- ful what. we do in the way of legislation that. what we do is sound. I dou't agree with Mr. Cminingliam's statement that this was a simple problem. It is not, it is complex. There arc a number of participants trying for a long period of time, so far without success, to bring peace and harmony. And I have heard them testify as to how complex this matter really is. Understand it is not because of a great desire to leap into new legislation that we are commie(' about the problem. May I close with one statement and I won't ask any more questions. Afaybe it is unfair to hold the witnesses longer. You made one tactical error. When you introduced your colleagues and associates, you failed to introduce one of the men who is repre- sentative of one of the outstanding schools of the West Coast. You passel! up Mr. Norval Ritchey after having brought him back to be on the scene. We are displeased that you failed to bring the University of oretron to time front. Alt. O'llmtA. Thank von, gentlemen, for your testimony. I don't know, but I hope you will hold yourselves in readiness, because it. may be that this subcommittee, in pursuit of its jurisdiction with respect to institutions of higher education, might wish to call you back on an- ot l ler occasion on this matter or related matters. We appreciate it. that you have taken your time and given the committee the benefit of your viewpoint on tins question. Even though we may not always agree: I want you to know we appreciate the time you have taken and the job you are doing. We will have to now vote again. I will declare the committee in recess until « o'clock. At 2 o'clock we will hear our next witness, Mr. Larry Ellis, head coach of track at Princeton. Thank you very much for your time. We will recess until 2 o'clock. [Whemipon at 1:4t the subcommittee recessed for quorum call, to reconvene at 2 pm. the same day.] Mr. LeitmAx. At this time we will reconvene the Special Education Salient:1m Wee. The next. witness will be Mr. Larry Ellis, track coach at Princeton Uni versity.

STATEMENT OF LARRY ELLIS, TRACK COACH, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY Mr. Et,t,ts. Thank you very much for inviting me to appear here at the committee to give whatever comments I can that ran be of some clarification or help in terms of resolving this problem revolving around amateur athletics in the United States. I circulated a brief statement. I am not sure whether everyone has a copy of that statement or not, but since it is brief, I hope you don't mind if I read the entire statement. Mr. Imam.. You go ahead as you prefer.

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Mr. Eta, is. I did have the opportunity. I saw nothing wrong with the facilities as far as the meet was conerned. I RIM where the ath- letes were housed. It was the same hotel I was staying in, John Mar- shall, a very tine hotel in Richmond. There were a number of team leaders and managers that were caring for the athletes and seeing that everything was taken "'are of for them pri)perly. So I don't. think athlete?' were being neglected. Mr. DELIA:mu:ca. Yon call understand the basis of my questions. If you had an athlete who was going to participateor ifit lie some out- side institution or agencyyou would be much concerned about this type of thing. If it was a fly-by-night operation you would not want to he associated yourself or have an athlete involved. But you saw no indi- cation for objection on those grounds in Richmond? Mr. }lists. No. And I think precedent had been established the year before. The saw type of meet was held with the same type of condi- time' being prevalent so I saw no reason to assume anything else would b different as far as this met was concerned. Mr. I ha,LENISACK. From the standpoint of the time the meet was held and how much effort it took to get from Princeton to Richmond and considering the thne an athlete or coach would have to be away from school, there was nothing untoward about this? Mr. ELIAS. No. Athletes were asked to be there approximately by Thursday morning, that was the day before the meet, so this should not pose any great midi'', diffieulty on athletes as far as academic responsi- bilities are concerned unless there was sonic unusual particular prob- lem that an athlete may have with an examination or something else. But it was not any long and unusual stay that an athlete had to make in ichmond. Ile had the option of arriving as early as Tuesday, the Tuesday before the meet or that Thursday before the meet began, which was held on Friday. DELLENBACK. Did yon get any indication as to what the XCAA would have done had there been a request by AAU for a sanction of that meet Mr. &Lis. No. Mr. I hitataloatwk. So you do not know what might have happened under those; Circumstances Mr. Etj.is. No, I don't. Ntr. I 4.13.EN luck. Let me ask some other questions, Mr. Ellis, that go to the basics of what, if anything we should do in connection with e lygisitti The issue that is in part involved here is should an athlete be able to decide for himself or herself whether he or she wants to compete in an event; or seeondlyshould an, athlete in conjunction with some repre- sentative of the individual' school where that athlete is in attendance make that, decision, or should it be a three part decision with the ath- lete and the institution and some outside agency making the decision ? What would be your feeling as a representative of one of the primary eastern institutionsand that comes hard for Inc to say as It Yale man, but as I have trouble doing that, but I am doing it with a straight face. lint as a representative of an outstanding institution, what would be your thinking about where the decision ought to rest for this kind of participation?

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Mr. ELLIs. NV feeling basically is that there should be some admin- istrative body that should set forth certain policies for the institution and the individual to be able to work within, determining the kinds of activities that they feel they would like to participate in, whatever their particular responses are. I do not think that any one individual should have the right to determine all of the types of activities thathemay participate in if 1w is representing an institution because he might not have the back - ground or expertise to look into all phases of the types of competitions and the type of conditions we discussed relative to the meet atRich- mond, to determine this. 1 think there should be a structuredpolicy procedure wherein the university and the individual can operate to- gether to determine this. However the institution or the organization setting the policy should not be able to dictate individual aspects Of how the university or the individual ought to operate. Mr. DEA.L..xisAcic. Would you see that outside organization then as being prineipally a supplier of information or would you see it as actually being. Ale to set up rules with which the individual and the institution must comply I Mr. Elias. Not necessarily setting up rules that the individuals comply with but setting. up rules that make it feasible for the institution and the individual to otierate in. I am sure this will per- Imps come up as far as the commission that we are speaking of is concerned. It is like an organization that you are setting up wheresomeoneis going toadministera program, someone is going to supervisethe pro- gram and see that the administration is donefairly and properly for all people to be able to participate in. I think here there is some instances where there are certain things administered in the program but it is not quite fair that all people cannot participate freely in the manner in which theydecide upon. DE11.1,1iOACK. I inns not quite sure that I see the line you draw. Let nay try to phrase the question again. Would you feel that in addition to the institution and its athletes being involved in the decisionmaking process, that there ought to be some outside organization which would have togive its approval to any given competition, whether it be a meet or tournament orwhat you will, in order for an athlete or a coach fromthat institution to participate Mr. ELLIs. Yes; there would have to be rules that would hate to be followed through. Mr. DELLEximeic. And there would have to be some outside control in this sense and if that control were not complied with, then no matter what the athletes wanted to do or what the institution wanted that athlete to do, there would have to be some controls? Mr. Emits. Yes, sir. Mr. DELLExnAck. So you do not speak on favor of the derision being left on the shoulders of the athlete or roach and the institution? 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e.# 11.1.,. 354 Mr. Emig. I think that is most. important. Mr.DxualsItACK. is that true of the NCAA? Mr. Ennis. This is something that. is difficult for me to answer for you because I (10 not know and I have not looked into the background to determine whether or not the NCAA has completely provided this opportunity for all institutions to have a complete say in these things. Mr. 143.I.Exien. A, we got the structure outlined for us this morn- ing, there are 770 institutions of one kind or another. They make by group decisions, by majority vote, the decision as to what the rules will be and then everyone of the 695 institutions plus the 7 5 other members must. comply with those. Would you be willing to say that is adequate, that is a sufficient voice and if you don't like the rule, that is just tough. You better try to change the rule? Mr. Ennis. If the direct procedure was used, and I think there is doubt that the direct, procedure was used in bringing about this partic- ular rule. There are some people who feel that it was not, that that Roberts Rules of Order were not followed in terms of bringing about this legishitioit. So once again a lot depends upon the manner in which the legislation is developed. Mr. DEnnEsittcK. By legislation you mean the rule within NCAA which wa.,, here not complied with and that forced you out of conflict t ion ? Mr. Ennis. Yes. Mr. Ihn.t.r.smett. Now if I have understood you correctly in your testimony, you think it should perhaps be perfectly proper that there be an organbation larger than the individual educational institution setting up some criteria or rules which must be complied with and if they are not complied with then the athlete goes by the wayside. if I have understood you correctly on that, then maybe you do not favor 562:1. Mr. lit.us. No, that is in terms of running the coganization domes- tically as far as amateur athletes is concerned in the United States, not addressing itself to the aspect of the athlete having the oppor- tunity to compete in international competition. Mr. DELLENISACK. So far as the athlete competing in international competition you feel the athlete and the coach should be free to make the decision Mr. ants. Provided it meets with the general philosophy of the ---oniversity and provided it does not, shall we say, overstep any boon( is in terms of who sets up that competition. Mr. IhtauxuAcx. Would it be possible that two different institu- tions in the same conference or the same league, might make different decisions as to whether they want their athletes to participate? Should each one be free to make that individual decision? Mr. Ennis. As far as international competition is concerned? Mr. I)EntaxNuncx. So far as international c. apetition is conecrned. Me. Emits. Yes, sir. Mr. DEnuotenctt. Let us tr.lk about the in: .,ruational track meet at Richmondan international lompetition. Kit,uld it. have been possible for Princeton rniversity and you to make the decision on your own, as to whether or not you should participate free of any possible sanction 355

from the Ivy !dengue or free ofany possible sanction from the NCAA ? Mr. Et.us. Yes, because 1 feelas it enmities an employee of Prinee- ton University I should have the right to, shallwe say, participate in anyactivitythat my employer and1feelare legitimate kinds of net i vi ties. Mr. MILLEXIMCK. Alld then, should beno organization abort' anti beyond Princeton thatcan sit in judgment as to whether or nut you should? Mr. F.t.t.ts. As far as myself is concerned. Mr. lhaltixn.tcli. LertiSW itell to one of your quarter-milers. Should the same thing pertain to that athlete I Mr. Emits. I think weare talking about a different situation. I think with it yowl'we am. talking .about employment, the right to earn a living, the right to pursue has professional objectives. I. think with the amateur athlete, he is workingor he is operating ti tinder It different set of rules and regulationsaccording to amateur athletics. And there is currentlyit structure which the college athlete operates under. However, that structure doesnot presently allow for the athlete to freely operate in internationalcompetition with sane. tbm of his university. Mr. Det.t.ExnAcu. Should it Mr. Er.us. I think it should. Mr. 143.1.c.n.wit. So again where the athlete isconcerned, you are saying the institution and the athlete should hefree to make the decision shy any outside control, is thatcorrect Mr. Kt.tas. I think what Iant saying. and I hope I have not been too misleading in this respect in t..rnis of trying toget exactly at the point of what youare saying, I think what has to he done is that the two organizations mustcome together so they can set up rules, so the athletes can do this. Theway it is set tip now the athletea cannot do this. Mr. InminNuteu. Butyou think it is possible. or you think it Is proper that there he some outside orgatuzationover and above the university that can say to an individual athlete, "Ifyou participate in this international event. then these repercussionsand results ova going to follow." Mr. F.t.us. No; I don't think that is eorreet. Mr. I hiLLENBACK. You don't think they should be ableI Mr. ELLIS. No. Mr. Ikt.ttiNnAcK. It should he just the university andthe athlete making that derision and that shonld he what eontrols theindividual athletes participation in the international event? Mr. Et.its. Yes, in that respect. Mr. 141,1.nsnAcu. Thank you very inneh. Thankyou Mr. Chili rnmn. Mr. laum.tx. Why don't we just turn this problemover to the Princeton School for ntivatteed studies. They dm et have enough ptvb.. lents of their own do they The next witness is Mr. Clifford B. Fagan, executivesecretary of the National Federation of State High School Associations,a fret- ,ration of 50 .ante high school athletic ussociationa and 7 Canadian affiliates. For it long tune, Mr. Fagan was ossoeinted with the Basket- ball Fedeentiou of the United States of Amerienas its. president. Mr. Fagan has helped the Basketball Federation U.S.A.m its attempts to organize the Amateur Basketball Association of the U.S.A. ordered 20420-44 -----24 356 by the Internatimil Basketball Federation tobe brought into exist- ence to replace the AMT itsthis country's national representative and international franchise holder. Thank you for coming to give us your help. STATEMENT OP CLIFFORD B. PAGAN, EXECUTIVESECRETARY, NATIONAL FEDERATION OP STATE HIGH SCHOOLASSOCIATIONS Mr. non),. Thank you, Mr. Chairman andmembers of the com- mittee. Mr. Lsint AN. Without objection your statementwill be included in the record. Yon can read it if you want. Mr. FAOAN. I would like to supplement myintroduction myself if I may, members of thecommittee, by saying that I 'cave coached for a number of years at boththe high school and intercollegiatelevel. I have been an administrator of interscholasticevents at the high school level for a quarter of a century. I participated in rules committees. that isthe writing and inter- preting of rules, principally basketball, at theintercollegiate and inter- scholastic levels. As the chairman indicated, I am a pastpresident of the Basketball Federation of the U.S.A. I am now amember of the U.S. Olympic Committee. I was very heartened near the end of thetestimony this afternoon to learn that the committee as a group indicated it was notinterested in establishing an organization which would dictate to sportsbodies but rather that it would soh,. a present problem. Ithink it is important we have that point of view. My comments to you this afternoon are general, if youplease. I would call your attention to the fact that theNational Federation of State High School Associations and the approximately 21,000schools represented by it are sincerely appreciative for the privilegeof sub- mitting a formal statement regarding its views of billsdesignated as H.R. 5623 and H.R. 5624. It is most appropriatethat the broad athletic interest of secondary schools in the United Statesbe recognized when national sports legislation is considered. There arehigh school programs in every community in the country.An increasing number of high school age athletes and teams are participatinginternationally as well as domestically each year. It is significant to note here that the interscholastic sports programs in the United States involve morecommunities, more competition, more contests, and more players than at any other level.As we have indi- cated, there are at this time approximately 21,000 highschools spon- soring interscholastic athletic teams. An increasing numberof these schools are presently including extensive sports programsfor girls as well as boys. Over ail, somewhat over 2 million students, boys andgirls, take part in a high level type of competition each year. The degreeof skill is markedly high. The high school sports curriculum varies,but the average school includes nine different sports. Thousandsof schools sponsor 15 different activities. These are programs of wholesome activities and interests for boys and girls. In these programs the students are motivated to keepthem- selves physically fit, and from them they derive a very worthwhile edit- 357

cations' experience whiletaking part in activitieswhich bring families together and whichare viable community affairs. Interscholastic athletics, infact, supplement the school'sacademic program. The purpose of thesesports programs is to contributeto the education of those whoparticipate activelyor as spectators. Thus, it is necessary the institutions supportingthe programs maintain est possible educational the high- standards. In order to makecertain the same high standards prevailfor interscholastic athletics demic program as far as the aca- in virtually all situations, coachesare required to be certified teachers andbona fide members of thefaculty. The adminis- tration of the athleticprogram resides with the head of the most instances, the principal. school, in Even though the Principal purpose of intercsholasticathletics is to contribute to theindividual's education, ently constructed participation in thepres- program enables the athlete to attaina remarkable degree of skill. Butbecause the program isfirst of all concerned with education, the standardsmust be constructedso there is an assurance of this educationalobjective being attained. I think to a great extent this isone of the problems that thecom- mittee faces. That isthose who are concernedwith the sports alone the excellence insports aro likely to be less or the welfare of the school concerned with community. Those whoseprimary interest is the excellence ofsport itself rather than thewelfare of the in- dividual frequentlydemand relief from school educational institutions standards. Obviously matters. cannot compromise their positionin these As the interest in interscholastic athletics grew, itwas necessary for schools to organize intoassociations for the ulations and standards purpose of adopting reg- to maintain educationaloutcomes. Virtually every standard State associations havefor the conduct of theirathletic programs, and there is similarity in allof them, is the result ofa demon- strated need. Thesestandards generally fall namely into four categories, (1) Those to protect theathlete's physical welfare;to insure his normal academicprogress; and to assure he is (2) Those to protect the school's a bonafide student; able to maintain its program so that the school will be commitments; to provide forequitable competi- tion; and toassure the program is under the direction (Aliens: of school (8) Those for the purpose of providing a means of constructingand. developing game rules whichbest serve the needs of and girls; and to provide adolescent boys a method of training officials whoare quali- fied to administer interscholasticcontests; and (4) Those for developingand maintaininga program of sports- manship so interscholasticcontests may be conducted in atmosphere. an educational The policies, procedures, andstandards whichare promulgated for the purposes of maintaininginterscholastic athleticsas an adjunct of the secondary school curriculumis appropriately theresponsibility of educators. Participationin interscholastic athletics is totally voluntary action a completely and on the part of the student athlete. Ibelieve gentlemen, toa very large degree this is true alsoat the intercollegiate level. The athlete isnot required to take pad. It is,in fact, a privilege

f t. 358 which he may choose to enjoy or to reject, When the student commits himself to the program of interscholastic athletics it is reasonable to expert him to abide by the standards whit+ are established for the governance of the sport and construeted by those organizationswhich sponsor the activity. As an aside there is a tlifterenee in the interests of an organiza- tion whielt sponsors only sport competition as eompared with the in- terests of the organization that is eoneetied with the individual as a student. We respeet folly submit that the high schools have, to it remarkable degree, fulfilled any sports obligation to the country by introducing millions of boys and girls into organized athletic competition. The schools have provided excellent (stitching and tine facilities. These have been available to all students who desire to acquire a mastery in sport skills of their clink.. The high schools have contributed to the development of wide interests in sports programs as have no other institutions. We believe itfair to conclude that the school sports programs have been extremely cssful and have provided it great servive to the athletic interests in the United States. The great ma- jority of participants at, all levels of athletic eompetit ion in our mutt- try today have been developed through the school-rolbge program, and this mehities those at the international level. Therefore, it is obvious the srhioo's must control their own athletic programs. Such control has contributed to the development of out- standing athletes rather than adversely affected their growth. It is apparent to us that UR, lith24 could and perhaps wouM eliminate edueators from the governance of the school sports program. The high standards, which educational institutions have maintained for these programs, certainly eompliment the dignity of the school. The great amount of participation. both by the athlete and the spectator in the program is indicative of the popularity of the sports urrieithim as presently ittlininistemd. The educators responsible for the policies and proeedues involved in the program are concerned with the we' fare of the individual, his neademie progress, his safety, and general well-being. This has ken the prineipal concern, of those who have administered the program and who have been responsible for the eon- struetion of the policies, proeedures: and rides which prevail in it., The country's interest in international entiqietition and the desire !o the success of athletes representing our country is legit imate, but it is only one aspect of the entire sports program of the United States. fn our opinion, it is not desirable to compromise other levels of the program to the extent that domestic programs in'e adversely affeeted. that present standards are reduced or eliminated. The elimination of InenlIS of disciplining athletes who leave their teams during It sports season to participate internationally would make it impossible for the schools to fulfill commitments. skilled participant developed by the educational eninimmity would be usvd indiseriminntely for e0111pist it ion if the proitosal being considered were adopt- ed. The school or college team would be left without adequate man- power to provide good eomeetition. Promoters, not interested in the program of the etliteational institution, and promoters who are selfish would exploit the talented boy and girl with no real concern for his

!,$ 359 BEST COPY AVAILABLE or her welfare. Most certainly,1111111eVOUS tours wonhl develop which would not be well plannedand would be clumsily executed. We urge any legislation adoptedfor the 14.overnance Of sixespro- grams in the United States protect the existingprograms of the edu- cational institutions. No othergroup has made such outstandingcon- tibutions to the sitortsprograms of our military as tional havethe educa- institutions.fo destroy their programs would bemost assuredly fatal at the international levelof competition. We are positive the Members of Congress will recognize thesecon- tributions and make certain thatthe educational institutionsare not denied the opportunity to eontiaueto provide maximum development. The future of I *.S. representationin international athletic competition to a large degree dependsupon the protection of the pilgrimsspon- sored by educational institutions. 1hese institutions must determine their own destinyso that at ie competition sponsored and supported byeltools turd collegesmay contimw to make the maximum contribu- tion at all levels. I have not spoken about sixicilicinstances. I have tried tosum- marize for you a philosophicalbackground if you please. and the basis on which rulesan developed and construeted for high school and college competit ion. Mr. LEIIMAN.Thillikyou very. murk. Mr. Pagan. Mr. I )ellenbaek. DELLENItACK. Thank you, lir. Chairman. Mr. Pagan, we appreeiateyour being here and your waiting so patiently and so long to finallyget to testify. We find it helpful. There is not any question that the roleof the high school in produe- ing athletes, both male and female whogo on to involvement after high school, principally in college anduniversities, but also outside of that, is n very significant role. I would like to Ir sure. though, that I understandwhat you suggest, not on the high school level, buton the post high school level. The Mlle type of questions I was putting to Mr. Ellis I would like to put to von. Youldyou feel that for the individual athlete and for thein institutionnstitution it is undesirable to heresome structure over and above and beyond that institution %dell will control whatan athlete can or cannot do so far as international competition is emwerned Mr. lemiAx. I definitely feel within sportsseasons !milieu larly, Con- gressman, that it is necessary there be some organization made up of the institutions sponsoring intereollegiate athleties, thatthere be some organization whirls would determine when a student athlete could participate internationally. I want to repeat Ias partieularly during a given season. I think it is necessary. sir. Mr. Mut:mimic Would you go beyond butt? Wouldyour say it was not necessary in the 11011Sete4o11 for that particular sport? Mr. Fmmx. Not entirely. Then' would be' some qualifientions. These would he Imsed upon the need to proteet the particular stodent's wind- mill- interest. Mr. DELLENn Pet von are not within; to leave the responsibility for that on the shonlders of the icstitution which the nthlete is at- tending. You want some agency and organizationover and above and beyond that institution ?

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Mr. FAGAN.Yes, 1 believe I understand your question and I do not believe this would function to the best advantage of the individual, of the institution, or of the athlete. Mr.DELLENUACK.Can you say why not, Mr. Fagan. I am not sure I understand the why's of this. Mr.FAGAN.Of course, there is some presumption on my part in making this statement. But I think there is much greater possibility of pressures being effective on a particular institution, or on a partic- ular set of officers of an institution a much greater possibility than there is in an organization of institutions, Congressman. Mr.DELLENBACH. SO Iassume from what you say that the student would be the one who would then be the lo.serif not the individual student, students collectively. Is that correct? Mr. t MAN. I would choose not to say loser and I my this respect- fully because I think the organization is interested in the student's welfare. The representatives of the institutions perhaps have more experience than the student has himself as to whether it is good for him to enter a certain competition at a certain time. Mr.DELLENBACK. Idid not make the question clear. I mean I under- stand your testimony to say that unless there is an outside organi- zation of some sort, then the student really loses because the student would then be subjected to inordinate pressures that his institution or her institution could not resist. Mr.FAGAN.Yes, sir, of this I am certain. Mr.DELLENDACK.Would it also create serious disparity among insti- tutions in the way of recruiting and the like, if institution A adopted a very loose policy relative to participation in international events and institution X adopted a very stringent policy, might that affect a young person's derision as to which institution he might attend? Mr.FAGAN.Yes; I am sure it would. I am sure it has. Mr.DELLENHACK.Wouldn't that be good? Don't we want diversity in higher education? Don't we want different kinds of institutions? Don't we want some that lean in one direction and some that lean in another and wouldn't this contribute to that? Mr.FAGAN. Idon't believe it would be good. It would make prob- lems. I think that you can have no kind of competition at the inter- scholastic or intercollegiate level without some basis for equality of competition, within some limitations, if you please, sir, but I think that the institutions which are competing in a given event for given honors, Congressman, have to have some kind of similarity in standards. If they do not have these. the thing gets nut of balance, and I think there are examples that it does get out of balance sometime. Mr. Dtux.xn,tric. Would you have any suggestion to the Congress as to what we ought to do legislatively, even if your suggestion is leave the whole subject alone. Mr.FAGAN. Tbelieve it should be left alone. Mr.DELLENDACK. Iam giving you a broad choice of what you recommend to us. Mr.FAGAN.You are very fair. Mr. DELLtxmcg. We have come to this stage, with the realization that with the Congress lw and large leaving it alone the problem has not been resolved. We find various organizationsand I don't

t.i','. 361 mean to speak judgmentally about any of thembattling among them- selves in a, way that has not created harmony. What should we do as your representativesconcerned as you are about sports and about millions of high school young people yet to comewhat should your Congress do about this? Mr. FAGAN. As far as the present basketball situation is concerned, Congressman, I think it emanates to a very great degree from the fact that an organization which has no basketball program continues to maintain and hold the international franchise. Speaking specifi- cally of the situation that we now have, sir, the AAU at one time served a good and useful purpose as far as basketball is concerned, but at the present time they have no basketball program. They find themselves :n this dilemma because until very recently it held the international franchise and it had to depend upon someone else for the talent.. It is interested, Congressmanand I say this respectfully to you committee membersit is interested in doing what itcan for the AAU rather than for basketball as a whole. And they have some commit- ments that it has to fulfill in this particular matter. If the people, organizations and people that have the basketballprogram had an opportunity to adjudicate these things internationally andwere prop- erly represented, f feel we would not be confronted with this problem that we are here today. Mr. DELLEMIACK. I don't mean to battle with you on these questions with respect to any organization. I might say that in the years I have been watching sports and participating in sports and in theyears I have been dealing with people involved in sports I have emerged with a rather uniformly high regard for those who give their lives to ama- teur sports, whether it be in high school. whether it be in NCAA, whether it be in NAI.., whether it be AAU, whether it be individual coaching slots. So I do not question the motives of anybody who is involved with any one of these organizations. I think the people are of rather high caliber and I am not sure I go along with you on whatyou said about that. But I do understand what you are saying about the p"ihlem and certainly everybody who is involved should beconcern, ..,1 it the athletes and not about some organizational bureaucracy, w .,per it is that we might be talking about. Mr. FAUAN. I think, Congressman, I agree with vonon that. You should be concerned about the athletes. But there isa difference. Con- gressman, in the interests of an organization that is interested only in sport performance and an organization that is interested in the edu- cation of boys and girls and which hasas one facet of this education participation in sports. There isa great difference. I say this with some positiveness, if von please. Mr. DELLENIRACK. 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Mr. De lienback. Mr. Dei.LENDACK. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Bare, we appreciate your testimony. You have made your point, I think, elegantly and clearly. You laid to rest one of the apprehen- sions we would have as to our moving forward in this field. At the same time you raised a question in my mind as one who is reluctant, as I have indicated before, to see the Federal Government really pre-empt sports, to move to enact legislation to take over the governing of the sport I am concerned about what you suggest we ought to do in the field of domestic intranational, intercollegiate sports. Do you really want the Congress to legislate in this field and take over the domestic sports picture? Mr. BARE. I suppose, Mr. Dellenback what I would suggest here is thatfirst, let mo say if the Government must get involved to put an end to the feud; then if there could bewhether the name is Com- A mission or some other similar type of group of august individuals, a Commission that could see that the organizations which represent the United States are truly representative of the program in the United States. I don't mean they should necessarily legislate rulco, rule changes, eligibility standards. What I am saying is if it is, in fact, true that the Amateur Athletic Union has no basketball program, or if it is true that NCAA has no boxing program, then those two orga- nizations and those two particular sports should not have undue weight in determining national policy relative to the program within the confines of this country or as it regards international events. Mr. DELLENBAMC. toil don't think we can rely upon the normal procedures of water seeking its own level or the free interplay of forces on a volunteer basis solving this type of problem. Youthink we have to legislate to solve it. Mr. BARE. I would say that based on the historical studies we have read over the past 40 years, that is the history of relations between the organizations that have met here before you during the past few weeks, some guidance in that line might be necessaryfrom the Government. Mr. DELLENBACK. Let me ask a couple of questions about the field of gymnastics about which I confess I know little. Your organization has now become the recognized international voice. Will you also have the principal responsibility domestically in the field of gymnastics'/ Mr. BARE. Yes, sir, I think that makes an interesting point that I did not dwell on. That is the Gymnastics Federation made up of all the organizations with the programs in the United States has never determined it to be their responsibility to duplicate those programs. That is to say if the high schools have a great program, which they do, and junior colleges and NCAA, have their programs, we do not at- tempt to duplicate that. Rather we tie those together at our annual meeting and exchange ideas. Mr. DetitzwaAnc. So in the field of gymnastics your federation is really the umbrella federation. You are dealing both with the national and the international aspects of this particular sport I Mr. BARE. Yes, sir, we are. Mr. DELLENRAME.,And you indicate this is unique. This holdsonly for the sport of gymnastics, no other sports. 305

Mr. BARB. As far as I know, I km", ofno other organization which encompasses all the organizations in the country involved in this sport. Mr. DELLENancic. What do you think is Ong to happen withgym- nastics tours next year after this year's episode with the AAU I Mr. B4um. I can assure you there will beno repetition of that. One of the things we are most proud of andone of the reasons we declined to have the Russians come in initially-2 weeks priorwe had Rumania and Hungary tour the country at thesame time. The Rumanians departed on Wednesday and the Russians landed Wednesday. That crowds us somewhat. The onlyreason we did allow it was be- cause of the improperness of the AAU invitation and Fabergewas heavily obligated and we did not want to discourageany company that had put so much into an event by not proceeding. Mr. DEILENBACK. I would commendyou and those who worked with you for solving the problem this way. You see this is theway it seems to me whenever it is possible,possible, we ought to be solving theseproblems. Instead of your toes so severely tramped on, when you found out that the AAU had extended an invitation they hadno right to, you worked out something with them which ended up,as you said, with a splendidly successful tour. I thinkyou are to be commended for that and I think that is the case for the individual rather than the system controlling what happened. Would this be possible in all other sportswere the same thing to happen inyou name the sport.. I think the earlier testimonytoday as to what NCAA is willing to do in this basketball situation is indica- tive of the same kinds of thing. I think theyare making a real effort to try to work something out and I think theyare to be commended for that just as I commend younow for what you are doing. I thank you very much for this testimony. It is helpful.kid, Mr. Chairman, we yield back the balance ofour time. Mr. LEHMAN. I want tosum up. If there is any other comment you would like to make, Mr. Bare, to respondto Mr. Dellenback, you have time to do that. Mr. BARE. I don't thinkso, Mr. Chairman. I thank you for the time. Mr. LEHMAN. Without objection the staff will be permittedto add such other material in the hearing recordas is pertinent. We thank all those here today and the previous witnesses andpeo.ple who have come before this committee to enlighten and help thisgroup here prepare the kind of legislation that would be of benefit to the broad spectrum of our youth of this country. Thank you again. [Whereupon, at 3:30 p.m. the subcommitteerecessed, to reconvene at the call of the Chair.]

WASHINGTON blETROPOLITAN TRACK COACHES ASSOCIATION Members of the Special Education Committee: Please acceptmy thanks for being permitted to submit this statement to your committee. At the age fig I look back on nearly fifty years of association withvarious aspects of track and field. In that period of time performances in trackand field have improved, probably as much as those in any sport, with the possiblenew Son of swimming. In the same fifty years track and field administrationhas changed little, Ironically the popularity of trackas a spectator sport has waned as performances have improved. Once largely restricted to the sons of economic BEST COPYAVAILABLE J66

means if not real wealth, truck nowis more opt to be the sport of the have-nots. The ecomonde burden has grown us the timmeini resoneeshave dwindled. Almost unknown prior to 1930 the scholarship athlete now dominatesthe scene, A whole change of values has resulted yet men who conceiveof truck aS o sport bunk- rolled by poreots mod friends pretty much dominate It. A kind of mulliguily bus come to surround ourfrock 1111111 W1111 Iltt11111 11111111 in the Ifiymplcs. Everybody lakes pride in theirvietories nod reasime lily or other- wise. critleize those who do not win, loll with a strangely elombelellYkleb !e, Monad is given to the fide of these heroes when they 14111111to their everyday tumors. Time was when hither look core of suchproblems. Now the athlete luny have dependents but 110 Well heeled hither. Whatshould be me is 0 irroillem lint what happens otter the builds stop playing is partor the imusi To ho more speeine i see benefit in 0 bill which would take only negative notion. As of mow soul' 0 measure would simply maim.AAI' ilioninution. It seems only reosoombie thus those elementswhich conch, troll' mod. in the rose of seloolurship otheiries. support the participants should hove 0v11111* in wind Is 111111e. AS Eastern Regional Stimuli Representative mo the Exiguity.. Com- mittee of the Track C008.111.5 Assiorlotion 1 11111111 minium! that equity 1104 ll permitting the high sellouts of the 11110011 an 14111/11Clare with the ('alleges, and with those who represent post college otheletestpresumobly the AAI' or n similar body limited to Truck 111111Field iniminIstrotion.. The high schools have the most tracks and some of the hest. Perhaps two-thirdsof the serious loorticiponts 11 track mod field are high sellout students. FM. it only,college ntheletes neldeve priominenee without previous highschool experienee.The inventing of trio* Muller:41dpi: is loosed upon perfornmiwein high school. Idy very few who complete high Kelmlmod eollege continue merlons truck 111141 field participation post college. It seems to ale that mix programwhich purports to improve the situation in truck nod field woadhove to hike notiee of condi- thous from high sellout years on pond the period Of eollegecompetition. Every track athlete is a potential (Symptom. A programwhieh does not Wilk to the interests of all would serve only a few mul unfairly neglect the rest. It Is needless to repeat the accounts of niggardlyodministrotion of ()lymph. funds Neellred by donations. The temptation to conservesuch fonds for the how fit of the group administering them hunt 1114 been resisted, norwill it he. There should he Federal rands to support a national tenth when theexistence of :owl) team is merited and there might be thuds to assist atheietesIn getting PIK though not directly support those who plan to continuepost-college partiehou- tion. Many must earn n living yet they need time to train. Thereshould be subsidies for a number of panellist+ mostly part-time. Upgrading of facilities and equipment nod the support of athetetem at 111111101111 possibly semi-final meets Surely W011111 ebonize the picture of 1*.S. pnrtivipotion I II °implytrack and field and in the right direction. 'hose of US who feel that truck and field has eontributed moot tothe Norte of this country ere convinced that changes in truck and fieldadministration cannot be long deterred. The choice seems to hebetween II program whirl' hikes into consideration comfit-ions as they molly exist or justthrow in our sloes and rftelIte our 111 the parade of athletes when the OlympiansassembleIn Montreal in 1976. ellABLFIS L. STOUT, Seeretarii-Treamurcr. Nawttitatt, N.Y.. March 2.1, 11011. JAMS 0. O'HARA. chairman, nneriai mama outlive On Moon. of Ileprtowniallrem, Moth- innton. (Attention : Al Franklin, 'ontemil). MAR l'OXI011004MAN 0.11.111A: P1114411111It to Illy telephone einiversationwith Mr. Zack of ;boor office yesterday, I'd like to odd toy vIews to yourcurrent PXII 11111111- Hon of the Mote of emotion. 'Moieties hi the rotted States. I ant anAssistant Attorney General for the State of New York, lott write to you as a private citizen. I have been following your hearings with interest, nodI note that you hove heard witnesses from the ranks of college athletes, thesports media. et a).. but there is one large mass of Interested parties which has notbeen represented the American sports funs. I grant yint, It is as difficult to tapthe views of the "average sports fan" as it is to poll the "overage citizen":lout eertninly 111 your emmexamluation of witnesses you could ask them to state for the record

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ber of a team representing any person or organizationother than the member university which he attends. I enclose a copy of that rule in itspresent form which has been drafted and redrafted through the years. The Big Ten has been fortunate in the past in having manyprominent athletes in various fields of sport. One of the principal problemsthat accompanies the prominence of athletes is the temptation that exists on the partof people out- side of the university to make use of these athletes fortheir own purposes. Some- times persons who seek to do this are highly motivatedand the causes are en- tirely worthy. Thus it used to be fairly common for theYMCA or a church group in the home town of the athlete to ask him toparticipate in a basketball game or whatever sport was involved for the benefitof the YMCA or the church group or for the general edification of the localsports' enthusiasts. Oftentimes these requests would come when school was in progress or the sportsseason in which the athlete participated was in progress and he would be placedin an extremely difficult position as a result of such requests. He wouldface the alternative of declining the request for which he might feel considerablesympathy or on the other hand absenting himself from his school work or fromhis participation on the campus during the time in question. Sometimes the persons requesting him to participate inoutside events were not at all as worthy or as charitably inclined as theYMCA or a church group. A private promoter who seeks his own personal purposes,likely financial gain, might also be tempted to make use of the athlete and to arrangeprograms ate competitions which would have a similar deleterious affect. In addition to the considerations that he wouldbe taken away from school or from his university sports' programthere was also the consideration that the university had no control over the types of competitionsthat were arranged or the conditions under which they were carried on.For example, some of the hazards or dangers that might arise relate to poor medicalattendance at the event, the presence of professional scouts whomight attempt to get the youngster to do something to jeopardize his amateurstanding, or the ever present gambler whose initial contacts with athletes in the pasthave frequently been competitions which were not held on university premises andwhich were not carefully admin- istered. You may recall the scorching opinion writtenby a New York Supreme Court judge about 10 years ago when thebasketball gambling scandals occurred in which he criticized college and universityofficials severely for not being more careful of the conditions under which theirathletes were permitted to compete. mention these matters in order to make the pointteat rules restricting the C nipetition of universityathletes away from the campus and providing for ap- proval of such competition are created for legitimateacademic reasons and other reasons looking toward protection of thewelfare of the athlete and his status in amateur sports. These are not rules created inorder to further any organiza- tional aims or to serve as a weapon in some alleged"power struggle." The pub- lic has been seriously misled in this respect, As I understand your bill it wouldprohibit university controls with respect to an athlete's participation individually or onteams "representing the United States in nmateur, international athleticcompetition against individuals or a team or teams representing any other country orcountries." It seems to me that this would open a door to a tremendousamount of abuse. For example, we border. In the case of hockey there is considerable are located near the Canadian tr. interest. It would be entirely possible if thislaw were to go into effect for promoter to get together a team representingCanada and arrange a hockey tournament with a tenor or teams representing theUnited States made up of hockey players from the members of the WesternCollegiate Hockey Association and the universities would be powerless to doanything about it. Such contests might be held for example in the middle of anexamination period or in the midst of the regular hockey season of the WCHA.It is of course true that an individual hockey player could refuse to participateof his own free will imt we are dealing with young men in manyof these situations who might be ex- tremely tempted by the prospect of spectacularopportunities to perform in pub- lic, or who may be subjected to intense pressureby interests that have in mind the semen of the promotion. Publicofficials may even participat in inviting athletes publicly or in other ways exercisinginfluence or creating inducements for the student to participate in the internationalcompetition. In a city such as Minneapolis which already has a considerableamount of non-university hockey such tournaments would he a naturaldevelopment. Indeed even with our rule as It is we have difficulties in this area. 369 BEST COPY AVAILABLE The same thing could occur In basketball. Someyears ago a number of prominent Big Ten basketball players whose eligibility expired with the last game of the season and who were uo longer affected by our Rule 10 were induced to get together and form a pickup team which traveled around the country in accordance with a program set up by a private promoter andsome of the men spent the latter part of the senior year following the pled piper In thisfashion. Of course even our rule didn't prevent that. It would be tarworse, however, to have a situation created in which such events could occur while thestudent still had eligibility left and the universities were prevented from doinganything about It. It is my understanding that your purpose in this bill and that ofMr. Dollen- back is to prevent the use of athletes as weapons or pawns indisputes between organizations. This is a worthy purpose and I am 100% in favor ofit. It can be accomplished In a different way, however, which does not upsetlegitimate con- trols that the unive.,-ttws can and should exercise with respectto their athletic programs and the stn. 'eat participants. I draw your attention toa bill introduced by Senator Robert Griffin on January 18, 1988 (8. 2838) whichwas entitled the "Amateur Athletes 13111 Of Rights Act", That bill or one similar to itwould I believe accomplish the worthy purposes that you have in mindand at the same time would not have the collateral adverseconsequences which I am afraid might follow if your measure were to become law. I had hoped to get to Washington to present these viewsto you orally but my teaching schedule is so heavy this semester that Iam unable to be away from Ann Arbor. After May 1st I will have more free time and ifyou are interested In having me appear personally or come to your office to discussthe matter I will be happy to make myself available at any time in that monththat suits your convenience. I would be deeply appreciative of any consideration thatyou give to the fore- going sentiments. Very truly yours, MARCUS L. PLANT, Professor of Law. RULE 10. OUTsIE COMPETITION Section 1, Intercollegiate Sports. The provisions of thisrule shall apply only to participation in athletic contests in any sport which theDepartment of Athletics of the student's institution Includesas a part of its intercollegiate att- tette program. Section 2, Students Affected.(a) This rule applies to allstudents who rac- tice with or are members of a freshman, junior varsityor varsity team. While regularly enrolled, they must have been and shallcurrently be in compliance with this rule. (b) While a student's only connection with the memberinstitution is enroll- ment in its extension or correspondence divisions he shall notbe deemed to be regularly enrolled. Section 3. During Term Time.(a) Exceptas specifically cited in Section 5 a student affected by this rule may participate during term timein an athletic contest only if he represents his institutionas a member of a freshman, junior varsity or varsity team. (b) "Term time" as used in this rule shall mean the period ofthe duration of classes and of examinations for that student. Itdoes not include summer (c) Participation In an athletic contest shall be deemed tooccur during term time if it occurs during a quarter or semester during whichthe student Is regu- larly enrolled and prior to the date when he officiallyloses his right to continue as a student for any cause whatever. Section 4. During Vacations or While Not Enrolled-- Subject to the proviso of subsection (h) a student may participate inan athletic contest in which he represents, or is a I mintier of a team representing,any person or organization (whether or not primarily athletic In character) (a) during any term when he is not regularly enrolled ata member institution ; (b) during officially scheduled vacation periodsor between terms, if he has received the prior written permission for each contestfrom the Director of Athletics of his institution (v) during the scheduled summer vacation period ofa member institution even if he Is enrolled as a student in the institution'sstlinnier session.

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'114 0111 .1VV 11111)V 01 114911111n .1411 11113 4(oan! 1 1111101 '11ii 4lailis0a,1 JO 1psjoi o., -14-9% BEST COPYAVA LA X72 Only when the U.S. State Department announced that theywould respond to the Chinese invitation did the AAU make a response and that wasto claim that the State Department's good will tour, which would be restricted todemonstra thins and instructions, violated the MINA Rule 53. r. Henning, President of FINA, who also is a memberof the AAU Executive Committee, and a director on the U.S. Olympic Committee'sBoard of Directors, had direct communication with the AAU and advisedthem on the action the governing body of 11.8, swimming should take. A personal invitation to Dr. Henning to meet withUnder Secretary of State, John Richardson, Jr., in May was refused by Dr. Henning. After the invitation refused by Dr. Henning, a letter from the AAU wasre- ceived by all of the tour members who would be going toChina, stating, "It is unfortunate that the State Department neglected to observeprotocol and by the AAU in these negotiations since we have pointed outthat FINA Rule 53 made the tour illegal unless the People's Republic ofChina either held or applied for membership In theInternational Federation." The letter continued, "Your participation in this tour willsubjt-,you to such action as may be taken with our rules." it Is a pity that the AAU, reputed to be the strongestand most powerful body 4 gowning amateur sports in the United States, made no effort tolegitimise this trip in the eyes of the union by advising FM of the true natureof the trip and to recognize that the group sponsored by the StateDepartment contained no AAP registered swimmers ; that those characterized by theAAU as "press stew- ards" were fully accredited journalists, recognizedby the wire services and whose duties in China would not be to report competitions (as theAAU defines the duties of a press steward \ but to writeand produce a television documentary, release pertinent news through the wire services relating tothe tour and to write a documentary for publication ; that thecoaches were not on any coaching list of the AAU ; and further, that the AAU made noeffort to adviseFINAthat the group was not violating Rule 53 since they were notengaging in competition, but as private citizens of the United States, hadthe right of free travel for a good will mission to promote mutual friendship, Internationalunderstanding and peace as representatives of their country, theUnited States. The sponsorship of this group by the United States comesfrom the authority of the President and the Department to cooperate hi culturalexchanges including exchanges in the sports field, and this is clearly defined inthe Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchanges Act of 1961as amended, which is a strongly stated purpose of the Congress to increase mutualunderstandings among peoples. How well the group carried out their missionhas been fully reported in the world press and by a letter received by eachindividual on their return to the United States from the Under Secretary of State incharge of Educational and Cultural Affairs, John Richardson, Jr. SecretaryRichardson said, "Prom our point of view it was a matter of particular importancethat this first exchange go well, and all indications are thatit certainly did. I know that you personally established friendships and associations withcoaches, swimmers, divers and sports federation officials during yourthree weeks in China. In addition, your reception by Madam Mao Tse-tung and otherprincipal Chinese leaders demon- strated that your efforts had a significance extendingbeyond the field of swim- Sino-American understanding which ming, materially contributing to the broader '1% is so important to world pence and stability.You can take pride in having been there helping make it happen." This is how the AAU responded to the group'sreturn from China, Each re- ceived a Xerox copy of a letter stddressmed to them,dated July 2, stating, "We cannot permit the violation of Rule 53 by a smallfew to jeopardise ail other IRK swimmers, have no intention of doing so and consequentlywill take dis- ciplinary net Ion necessary. "To that end, the offices of the Unionand National Registration Chairman concur In the &wham' that theregistered athletes luvolved have automatically suspended themselves from further amateur aquaticcompetition indefinitely. And further, that those athletes, coachesand press stewards who participated in the tour be removed from the membershipof all AAU committees, at all levels, and from membership on all committees of theU.S. Olympic Committee. "A copy of this letter is Wing directed tothe flhairman of Registration In your 'mme tetsoclation win is expected to take appropriateaction in accordance with AAIT rides.'ro this end you may he expected tobe contacted by theta soon." Under what rule in the AAU 1973 Code could these athletes,couches and Jour- Whits be suspended? There has been no meeting onthis action by the AAU Board of Governors. The officers of the Union do not have theright of suspending, 07.f t. 1 At 373 BEST COPY AVAILABLE

To this publication's deadline, there has been no communicationor action taken by the AAU Associat ion of the parties involved. Further, the officers of the AAU have no legal right under the AAU codeto' establish, define and enforce technical rules that are governing the sportcon, petition itself and the sports governing body shall be the sole authority ofthe: individual sports. The AAU has stated that unless a penalty would be assessed, the U.S. rightto compete in the W..rid Championships at Belgrade would be in jeopardy. What a lot of baloney. A precedenee has been established. In November of 1972, a group of 25 Japanese swimmers, coaches and stuff went to China not to demonstrate, but to compete. What was the penalty the Japan Amateur Swimming Federation imposed?Two retired swimmers were suspended plus two coaches, The balance of the Japanese team, the nucleus for their 1976 Olympic team, plus officials, and other Federation officials were not sanctioned or punished by as much asa one day suspension. Japan will compete in the World Championships, The United States will send a team to Belgrade to compete in the World Cham- pionships. It is hardly conceivable that NINA would bar the U.S. teamat Bel- grade, for this is when the FINA Bureau would meet and have to act, especially after selling the television rights to the U.S. television for reputedly, $50,000. So who is the AAU trying to protect t Did the FINA president advise the Japa- nese to bar or suspend ail the participants who were members of the Japan team? And what action has FINA taken against other affiliated nations who have made unpublicised trips to China for competition? Or against the AAUwhen State Department Peace Corps members were sent to unaffiliated countries for the same purpose as the group sent to China? Action will be taken bythegroup that went to China to squash the penalty for as 'private citizens, serving their country, they had every legal right to make the trip, The AAU and the FINA President who encouraged the AAU action must be held accountable for this illegal suspension, FINA and their affiliate, the Amateur Athletic Union, both who profess to promote amateur swimming, and Who have repeatedly screamed at anygovern- ment interference with their netivities, now have injected polities into the free movement of citizens of the United States who have tried only to serve their country by promoting friendship and to further the cause of world peace. How ironic that these two powerful governing bodies can place the question of loyalty to an organization (FINA/AAU) ahead of loyalty to one's country.

[Prom the Washington Post, Aug. 28, 10731 CHINA Swim Toga OklIcIAL SUES AAU (By Ueorge Solomon) The editor of the magazine Swimming World has tiled suit foran injunction against the Amateur Athletic. Union, which recently suspended him,a coach and 10 swimmers and divers for participating in a government-sponsored tour of the People's Republic of China. Albert Schoentield, the editor, filed suit in the California State Superior Court in Los Angeles seeking to prevent the AAU from expelling him from AAU and UM. t dymple committees. Sehenfleid,whoserved as press officer for the group during its trip to China, was suspended with divers Micki King and Bernie Wrightson and swimmers Frank Meek!, Brian Job, Mitch Ivey, Steve Power, Karin Moe, Lynn Vidal', Ellie Daniel, Jane Rottman and coach Jane Uaughran, The tour lasted from May 29 to slime 23 and wasseen by more than 60,000 Chinese, Schism:field said. Schoeulleithe suit charged that his removal from membership on the various committees will cause him permanent and irreparable harm. The defendants, besides the AAP, are the Southern Pacific Association of the AAU and the international ruling body of swimming, Federation Inter- nationale de Natation Amateur t FINA 1. Aspokesmanfor the AM' sold yesterday his organization was told by NINA that swimmers and diversunder Its aegis couldnot compete in the People's Re- public of Chinabemuse that country elms not belong to the international group. 'TINA threatened to bar all tuembera of theMS. teutu from the world ; tLE

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V At all times mentioned herein. the defendant the Southern Paeitie Association of the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States has been a corporation duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of California and with its principal office to Los Angeles County, California. VI At all times mentioned herein, the defendant the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States. Inc.. has been and is a corporation and as such has engaged in business in the State of California. VII At all times mentioned herein, the defendant Federation Internationale De Natation Amateur (hereafter "FINA") has been an association. VIII At all times mentioned herein, plaintiff has been and Is now a resident of Los Angeles County, California ; for the past eight years the plaintiff has been a member of the Executive Committee of the defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States. Inc.: for the past fifteen years plaintiff has been a member of the Executive Swimming Committee of the defendant the Southern Pacific Association of the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States and he has been a member of the Board of Directors of said Association for the last thirteen ream ; for the past ten years 'Plaintiff has been a member of the Standing Sport Committee for Swimming of the National Swimming Committee of the defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc. IX At all times mentioned herein, the defendant FINA has been an association, the members of which are the national bodies governing swimming, diving, water polo at achronized swimming of various countries throughout the world. The national body governing swimming. diving, water polo and synchronized swim- mite of the People's Republic of China is not a member of Fin.

The defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., is the United States member of FINA. XI FINA has promulgated rules relating to swinttnlug, diving, water polo and synchronized swimming in the countries whose Reiland bodies governing said sports are members of FINA. Included among said rules is Rule 53, which pro - vides as follows : "The swimmer of an affiliated country shall not compete against a swim- mer of a nonaffiliated country in which there is or was a body governing swimming. provided that swimmers of affiliated countries may, with the permission of the FINA Hon. Secretary, engage in competitions with swim- mer:4 of such countries where no National Swimming Federations or similar controlling bodies exist on the understanding that such organizations will apply for affiliation when formed. "No affiliated country shall be permitted to compete against and/or with swimmers of a country formerly affiliated to or currently under suspension by the FINA, "No affiliated countries shall allow any foreign swimmer to compete, or give exhibitions in its territory with its affiliated organizations or swimmers, unless he previously presents the corresponding travel permit from its na- tional federation. This includes the FIFIV Games. Any affiliated body that does not comply with the above rule shall he sanctioned with the suspension of its rights for a minimum of three months and a maximum of two years, according to the decision of the FINA Bureau or Congress." 377 BEST COPYAVAILABLE XII In June of 1973, pursuant to the aforementioned agreement with Dr. Henry Kissinger. the United States of America sent a team of swimmers and coaches to the People's Republic of China to perform swimming exhibitiom The plaintiff was appointed by the State Department of the United States to be Press Steward for said swimming team and accompanied said swimming team lu the Republic of China. XIII Said swimming team appeared and gave exhibitions in the Republic of China during the month of June, 1973, and plaintiff accompanied said teamas its Press Steward. XIV During the aforesaid exhibitions, no swimmer of the United States competed against and/or with a swimmer of the People's Republic of Chinanor against and/or with swimmers of any other country. The appearance of said United States swimming team in the l'emip le's Republic of China did not constituteor involve the allowance of any foreign swimmer to compete or give exhibitions in the United States. XV None of the nets performed by any of the members of the swimming team of the United States in the People's Republic of China were in violation of the said FINA Rule 53; notwitlistantling said fact, Dr. Harold W. Henning, president of FINA, has publicly stated that the acts of said United States swimming team in the Republic of China would constitute and have in fact constituted a viola- tion of said PISA Rule 58. and as a result thereof, FINA has informed the de- fendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States. Inc., that unless it takes punitive action against the lantiff herein that FINA will cause the membership of the defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., in FINA to be terminated to the end that swimmers. divers. and water pointing of the United States will not be permitted to compete in 'International amateur contests with athletes of countries who are members of FINA. XVI As a result of the foregoing, the defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States. Inc.. advised the plaintiff that it intended to cause Mtn to be re- moved from the membership of all Amateur Athletic Union committees at all levels and from membership on all committees of the United States Olympic Committee. XVII Plaintiff's position as a member of the aforementioned committees is one of unique value to him which cannot be adequately expressed to terms of doilnrs, and if plaintiff was removed or suspended from the membership of all Amateur Athletic Union committees at nil levels and from membership on ail committees of the United States Olympic Committee, he will have suffered permanent and irreparable harm and damage which cannot be compensated for in damages ; among other things, said renewal mid/or suspension would seriously affect the ability of plaintiff to be appointed or elected to Amateur Athletic Union commit- tees and from membership on committees of the United States Olympic Commit- tee In the future. XVIII Defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., directed n letter to time defendant Southern Pacific Association of the Amateur Athletic Union of the United Staten instructing said association in substance to remove the plain- tiff from all Amateur Athletic Union committees at all levels; thereafter said Southern Pacific Association advised !plaintiff in substance of its intentionto hold a hearing in accordance with the foregoing for the purpose of determining whether or not the removal of plaintiff from said committees was justified and would be effected. Said hearing occurred rn September 27, 1973, andwas con- BEST COPY MAMIE 378 dueled in accord° twe with the rules of the Soathern Mei& Association us well as the Amateur Athietie Union of the raked States. la.. and plaintiffappeared ut said hearing and gave evidence ut said time and was acompanied by and represented by legal counsel. At. the termination of said hearing. plaintiff was advised in substance that he would be Informed of the decision which was reached as a result of said hearing. XIX No decision was ever made by the Southern Nellie Asseintion and. in fact, subsequently and after October 12,1973. advised plaintiff that it %%void not wader any decision. XX On August d. 1973, without giving notice to plaintiff 81141 without affording plaintiff the opportunity of having a hearing and presenting evidence and hear- ing the evidence against him. Me Amateur Athletic Union of the United States. held a purported meeting by a telephone conferowe call. at which time it purported to remove plaintiff from ail Amateur Atit let le committees as well as from all ptczitions on the United States Nymphc committee for auindefinite period, Said action was in violation of the rules and regulations of the defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United states. Inc. and in violation of the rights of plaintiff in that it did not give plaintiff au opportunity to be heard nor an opportunity to (near the evident* presented against him nor an opportunity to participate in any heaaring conducted for the purpose of removing him from any of said ell:malt tees. XXI On October 12. 1973, the defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., purported to terminate said suspension of the plaintiff, but It did not, amid as of this date has not, agreed that plaintiff was not properly suspended by it. XXII An actual controversy exists between plaintiff and the defendant Ainateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., which is as follows: A. Plaintiff contends that he is not In violation of any of the rules of FISA and that therefore he could not he suspended for purported violation of therules which were not, in tact, violated : K.Plaintiff further contends that before he could be properly suspended from any of said committees. it was incumbent upon thedefendant to give the plaintiff an opportunity to be heard, to hear the evidewe presented againsthim, and to present evidence on his behalf as well as appear with legal counsel, and that by reason of the fact that no suet' hearing ever occurred,said suspension was a nullity and that as a matter of law the plaintiff was never suspended front any of said committees; I'. Defendant Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., onthe other hand contends that such suspension was lawful and effective attd thatplaintiff was in fact lawfully SIISINIIIded from all of said committeesfor the period from Angwtt 0. 1973, until October 12. 1973, and that said suspensions were legally effective for all purposes and will therefore remain on the record of the plaintiff with all amateur swimming bodies, both in the United States and in other coun- tries of the world. Where fore. plaintiff prays judgment against defendant Amateur Athletic Talon of the States. Inc.. as follows: 1. For r declaration of plaintiff's rights against the defendant AmateurAth- letic Union of the United States. Inc.. mid that in and by Pahl declaration the Court declare that the plaintiff was never lawfully suspended from anyOf the committees of the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., nor of any committee of the United States Olympic Committee ; 2. ?or costs of suit lneurred herein: and 3. For such other and further relief us the Court &ma Just. hued: April 27. 1974. HAROLDittllitS8, Attorney for Plaintiff. 379 AVAILABLE

Dam A. MATI.IN, LDS ANGELES. CALM ATTORNEYFoil DEPENDANT. AMATEUR ATtil.ETie UNION or THE UNITED STATES, INC. A CORPORATION

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ANSWER TO AMENDED AND SUPPLEMENTARY cOMPLAI NT Conies now, the Defendant, Amateur Athletic Union of the UnitedStates, Inc.. a corporation, hereinafter referred to Mt the "AAV", for itself onlymid fur 31104Wpr to Plailddrs and Saptdrit,litary ColphIllg au HIP herehl. ad- mits, denies and alleges as follows : I That for the sake of brevity, the Co-Defendant. TheSouthern Pacific Associa- / Hon of the Amateur Athletic Union of the CulledStates, n corporation,ili he hereinafter referred to as either the SPAor Association, and the Co-Defendant, Federation Internationale I b. Natation Aantienr,an lissorilitinn, will hereinafter be referred to as FINA. II In answer to Paragraphs I, II, III and IV of PlaintirmComplaint, this answer- ing Defendant has no information or belief sufficientto enable it to answer the allegations of said Paragraphs I, II. III and IV. and basing IVanswer upon such lack of information and belief, denies generally andspecificnily each and all of the allegations contained hi said Paragraphs I, II,III and IV. In Admits the allegations of Paragraph V. IV In answer to Paragraph VI, this answering Defendantadmits that it is a New York not -for- profit corporation, headquartered in the Cityof Indianapolis, State of Indiana and qualified to do business in the State ofIndiana, but denies that it has engaged in business in the State of California. V In answer to Paragraph VII, this answering Defendant admitsthat FINA 11t has been and still Is an association and at nil times mentionedin Plaintiff's Complaint there were 102 nations affiliated with FINA. VI Admits the allegations of Paragraph"; VII. IN and X. VII Admits the allegations of Paragraph XI of Plaintiffs Complaintnod. In this eonneelloa, alleges that the FINA Bureau, which is the ExecutiveConunittee of ?INA, and conducts and enforces the' drain; of FINApursuant to Its rules and regulations, including the interpretation and enforcing ofthe rules of TINA. did at a regularly scheduled Bureau meeting heldin Singapore on NoVeMber 17, 18 and 1. 1071, unani.nonsly agree that the RuleCA, set out itt Plaintiff's Paragraph XI, prohibited any kind of relationshipbetween an af1111 BEST COPYAVAILABLE 380

ated (with FINA) and a nonaffiliated nation;that as set forth in Plaintiff's Paragraph X of Plaintiff's Complaint, thisanswering Defendant is the United States member of FINA; that as set forth inParagraph IX of Plaintiff's Com- plaint, the National body governing swimming,diving, water polo and synchron- ised swimming of the People's Republicof China is not a member of FINA ; that the United States is an affiliate nationwith /INA and the People's Repub- lic of China is a nonaffiliated nation. VIII In answer to Paragraph XII, this answeringDefendant denies, generally and specifically, each and all of the allegationscontained in said Paragraph XII, except that this answering Defendant admitsthat a team of swimmers and coaches and other personnel did go to the People'sRepublic of China to perform swimming exhibitions and clinics in June,1973, and that the Plaintiff did accompany said swimming team in itsvisit to the People's Republic of China as one of the officials for said team. IX In answer to Paragraph XIII, this answeringDefendant admits that said swimming team appeared and gave exhibitions andclinics in the People's Republic of China during the month of June,1973 and that the Plaintiff accompanied said team as one of the officialsthereof. X That this answering Defendant has no information orbelief sufficient to enable It to answer the allegations of ParagraphXIV and basing its answer upon such lack of information and belief, deniesgenerally and specifically each and all of the allega' ions contained in said ParagraphXIV. XI Iu answer to Paragraph XV, this answeringDefendant denies that none of the acts performed by any of the members of theswimming team of the United States In the People's Republic of China werein violation of the said FINA Rule 53; this answering Defendant admits that thecurrent President of FINA, Dr, Harold W. Henning, did publicly state that theacts of the United States swim- ming team in the People's Republic ofChina would constitute and did, in fact, constitute a violation of said FINA Rule 53and that FINA did inform this answering Defendant that unless it took apunitive action against all of the members of the said swimming team, includingthe Plaintiff, that FINA would cause the membership of thisanswering Defendant in FINA to be suspended for a period of not less than 3 months nor morethan 2 years, so that swimmers, divers and water poloists of the United Stateswould not be permitted to compete in the International amateur contests withathletes of counties who are mem- ber,; FINA during said period of suspension. XII oe In answer to Paragraph XVI. thisanswering Defendant admits that in order to prevent such suspension and to enableswimmers, divers and water poloists . of the United States to continue to competein International atnoteur contests with athletes of countries who are membersof FINA, that it would take discipli- nary action against the Plaintiff andother members of the said swimming team and intended to cause the Plaintiff to beremoved from membership on all AAU committees nt all levels and from membership onall committees of the United ge StotEs Olympic Committee and by letter datedJuly 2, 1973, sent to and received by the Plaintiff, s at out this Intention ; that a copyof said letter of July 2,1973, marked Exhibit "A" is attached hetet° andmade a part of this Paragraph XII as though set out in fullherein. XIII Denies generally and specifically such andn11 of the allegations contained in Paragraph XVII and, in particular, deniesthat such removal or suspension would seriously affect the ability of Plaintiffto he appointed or elected to AAU committees and from membership on committees onthe United States Olympic Committee in the future and, is this connection, thisanswering Defendant al- 381 BM COPY AVAILABLE logos that nt this time, the Plaintiff is a member of various AAU committees, both on the SPA level and on the National AAU level, and Is a member ofa committee of the United States Olympic Committee.

XIV 4 Admits the allegations of Paragraph XVIII and, in this connection, alleges that the aforementioned letter of July 2, 1973. attached hereto and marked Exhibit "A" is a letter referred to in said Paragraph XVIII. XV This answering Defendant has no 4gformatIonor belief sufficient to enable it to answer the allegations of Paragraph XIX and, basing itsanswer upon such lack of information end belief, denies generally and specifically, eachand all of the allegations contained in Paragraph XIX. XVI Denies generally and specifically each and all of the allegations contained in Paragraph XX, except this answering Defendant admits that on August 8, 1978, after a conference telephone call with all of the National officers of thisanswer ing Defendant, it was necessary for this answering Defendant toremove the headers of the China swim trip from all National AAU Committees,as well as from positions on Olympic Committees, for an indefinite period in order toprod fret the International eligibility of American swimmers, divers, water poloists and synchronized swimmers, but that the National officers realised their action hod to be reproved by the Notional Board of Governors at the Convention in West Yellowstone, Montano, October 7-13, 1971 and that each of the National Sports Chairmen concerned, as Weil as the United States Olympic Committee, were to be advised that such action was being taken pending approval of the National AAU delegates in Convention during the first week of October (1973). That a copy of a letter dated August 0, 1973 from the National AAU Executive Director to the National AAU Secretary setting out the aforementioned action on the past of the National officers is attached hereto, marked Exhibit "B ", and made a part of this Paragraph as though set out in full herein. XVII Denies generally and specifically each and all of the allegations contained in Paragraph XXI, except this answering Defendant admits that on October 12, 1973, Its Board of Governors terminated all suspensions, if any, against any of the individuals who comprised or accompanied the swim team to the People's Republic of China on June, 1978. XVIII Denies generally and specifically each and all of the allegations contained in Paragraph XVIII, except this answering Defendant admits that the Plaintiff contends he was not in violation of any of the rules of FINA and that this answering Defendant contends that any suspension of the Plaintiff was lawful and effective and, in particular, this answering Defendant alleges that the Plain- tiff did contravene FINA's Rule fl3 and that if this answering Defendant had not suspended said Plaintiff, subject to approval by the National AM/ Board of Governors, that American swimmers, divers, water pololsts and synchronised swimmers would have been unable to compete in International competition for a period of not less than 3 months nor more than 2 years. Par a second, further affirmative and separate defense, this answering de. fondant alleges, as follows:

That FINA, in its Official Bulletin No. MI dated April, 1972, carried the statement, as follows: "A letter had been received from the Japanese Swimming Federation pertain hut to clarification of Rule 58. The President clarified Rule ra, emphasising that no kind of relationship could exist between an affiliated and a nontffillated nation. In certain eircum. stances, special permission to participate in events could be given toa country BEST COPY AVAILABLE 382 who was In the process of tutting steps neeessary to heroine a FINA member mid during the period where no meetings of the Bureau ore held. The Bureau auauluunmslyagreed with the clarification."

II That this answering Defendant IriIlifor lioed and believes. mid upon slieli Wombat ion and belief alleges that a ropy or said FINA ufficial notion' Na. was read by the Plaintiff solo' after its publieatimi to April, 1972. Poor e6 third, further oftirniatire euul suisirflle de/true. thin illixirerillf/rlr- Jraduot tilleges, us foltriirn: I That prior to participating In the said June. 11173 trip to the People's Repoli lie of ti the Plaintiff was rally 11101 eoliiplelely 'warp of two (Het Iwo Ow par- tielpatiou of itM1,111014; Wain frisiii the rilited Stows of Mollie,*IIIthe prooscahltiou of swimming' exhibition's and dillies and shidlar netIvIlles lu the People's Republic 14 ''hind would lie a violation of the said Role :13 of PINA awl that mien trip. If It were made, and such aellvIt les were entered Into unless those persons participating hi silt+ trip and ',entities were suspended from member- ship committees of the AAV un all leVels, that the AM! would be suspended by FINA from interoational competition for a minimum period of 3 months and it maximum period of 2 years and that during mu li susponsIon the swimmers. divers. water poloists amid synehronized swimmers of the hilted States of .t merles' would not be permitted to compete In internatleaml competition' with member- tuitions of I"1 \'A ht those sports. iI That Plaintiff was also mare prior to departure for the sold June, 1973 trip to the People's Ilepublie of Chitin that the first World's Swimming Clouttplenships had been set to be held 111 Belgrade. Yugoslavia It, August and September of 1973 and that If sold trip were taken, us aforementioned, and the AM' was suspended from FINA, us aforementioned. that the United 'States of America's swimmers would not 1w permitted in the first World's SWIttlibing

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To that cad. the Apes of the Union and National Registration Chairmen con- cur Itt the decision that the registered athletes 111101VPd have meematleally sus- pended themselves from further amateur aquatic competition indefinitely. And further, that those athletes, conches and press stewards who participated in the tour be removed from the membership of all AAU committees, at all levels, and from mendiersidp on all rommitteisi of the US Olympic Committee, A copy of this letter is being directed to the Chairman of Registration in your home amseelation who is expected to take appropriate action in accordance AMY Rules. To this end you may be expected to he contacted by theta soon. We trust you will understand that the membership of the Amateur Athletic Union as the governing body twist be protected and that the action by this office is in the interest of all aquatics under our jurisdiction and that the action taken against yen is not in retaliation but is a sincere desire to protect the international status of our membership in FINA and Our thousands of registered anutteurs. Cordially, OLLAN C. CARMEL!"B.reentie Direct w. Enclosure (copies of previous letters).

AMATEUR ATOMIC UNION UNITEDSTATER,

Indianapolis, lad., August iI, 1173. Mr. RICIIMU E. HARKINS, KalIKORCity, Mo. MAR Run :Itt a conference telephone call, the National (Wert,: divided to take emergency action regarding the "China swim trip." This action was taken as a result of a telegram from the Honorary Secretary of FINA, Paul Vaud), in which he Iodinates "If no definitive action is taken by the AMT, the FINA bureau will have no recourse other than to revoke the membership of AM from all rights in FINA for a minimum of three months to a maximum of two years." This is in accordance with FINA role 53. The action decided upon was the removal of the leaders of the China swim trip from ail national AM! committees as well as from positions on Olymiec com- mittees for an indefinite period. You, therefore, are requested to so notify the national Olympic committees and our own national sports committee chairman concerned. The Officers realise their action must be approved by the national Board of Governors at the convention in West Yellowstone, and each of the national sports chairmen concerned, as well as the United States Olympic Committee, should be advised this action is being taken pending approval of our delegates in conven- tion during the first week of October. The specific individuals concerned are James Gaughran, Al Schoenfiold, and Jane Berkman. From the National Headquarters we investigated each athlete's registration who made the trip and found only one to be currently regi4tered Brian Joh. Thus our Pacific Association has notified Mr. Job of an indefinite sus- pension from AAU and international competition. We have notified Dr. Rauch of the action taken by AAU and expert it will avoid any reprisals by the FINA bureau at their meetings at the time of the World Championships in Belgrade against AAU or any American athletes. Best regards, OLLAN C. CASSE11, E xe cut e Director. PLIIMEATION INTERNATIONALE DE NATATION AMAMI!, March a,it) & To: Affiliate members of RIX& ; bureau members; and technical committee members. From : Dr. Harold W. Henning, president. Subject t Interpretation of rule 53. There has been much comment lately regarding invitations to nonaffillated members as it concerns swimmers, divers, water poles, and synchronised swimmers in our sport. In confirming and clarifying further Rule 53 in the General Rules which was discussed thoroughly by the Bureau in i'3 Singapore meeting in 1071 and reaffirmed by the Congress In Munich, the following cn- clusions were confirmed : 385 BEST COPY AVAILABLE

1. That no kind of relationship under our rules could exist between an affiliated and nonaffillated notion. In certain circumstances, *special permission to participate in advance could be given to a country who is in the process of taking steps to become a F.I.N.A. member and during the period where no meetings of the Bureau are held. 2. That the exchange of coaches and technical know how with nonaffiliated member countries is not permissible. 3. The holding of good will meets and training together with nonaffiliated eountries is not permissible with the above interpretation. 4. The F.I.N.A. has gone on record in the past and it is stated emphatically hem again that membership in the F.I.N.A. is open to any and all bodies who will observe our statutes and rules as laid down in the F.I.N.A. Handbook. All such applicants are welcome into our organization. However. the P.I.X.A. can only take such action when a formal apilleation is received from anyone who desires such membership under Article 6 of our constitution. O. It would indeed he very gratifying to hear that any of our former members as well as new members affiliate to the F.I.N.A. and thus participate in the First World Championships which will be held in Belgrade this coming summer. We have read the interpretation of We Lynn H. Vidal' : Karen Moe; Jane Barkman; Cpt. Micki King: Mitch Ivny; O. Job; Steve Power; Frank Heckle; Bernie Wrightson ; Ingrid Wand; James Claughran ; AI Schoonfteld; Faye Schoen- field.

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