Hearings to Examine Threats, Responses, and Regional Considerations Surrounding Iraq
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S. HRG. 107–658 HEARINGS TO EXAMINE THREATS, RESPONSES, AND REGIONAL CONSIDERATIONS SURROUNDING IRAQ HEARINGS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION JULY 31 AND AUGUST 1, 2002 Printed for the use of the Committee on Foreign Relations ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 81–697 PDF WASHINGTON : 2002 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate 11-MAY-2000 18:09 Sep 20, 2002 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 81697 SFRELA1 PsN: SFRELA1 COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR., Delaware, Chairman PAUL S. SARBANES, Maryland JESSE HELMS, North Carolina CHRISTOPHER J. DODD, Connecticut RICHARD G. LUGAR, Indiana JOHN F. KERRY, Massachusetts CHUCK HAGEL, Nebraska RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin GORDON H. SMITH, Oregon PAUL D. WELLSTONE, Minnesota BILL FRIST, Tennessee BARBARA BOXER, California LINCOLN D. CHAFEE, Rhode Island ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey GEORGE ALLEN, Virginia BILL NELSON, Florida SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, West Virginia MICHAEL B. ENZI, Wyoming ANTONY J. BLINKEN, Staff Director PATRICIA A. MCNERNEY, Republican Staff Director (II) VerDate 11-MAY-2000 18:09 Sep 20, 2002 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 81697 SFRELA1 PsN: SFRELA1 CONTENTS WEDNESDAY, JULY 31, 2002 Page Ajami, Prof. Fouad, Majid Khadduri professor and director of Middle East Studies, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins Univer- sity, Washington, DC ........................................................................................... 124 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 126 Butler, Hon. Richard, former Executive Chairman, UNSCOM; Diplomat in Residence, Council on Foreign Relations, New York, NY ................................. 9 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 13 Cordesman, Prof. Anthony H., senior fellow and Arleigh A. Burke Chair in Strategy, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC .......................................................................................................................... 24 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 27 Duelfer, Charles, resident visiting scholar, Middle East Studies, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; former Deputy Exec- utive Chairman, UNSCOM ................................................................................. 69 Prepared statement including 2 op-ed articles .............................................. 71 Feingold, Hon. Russell D., U.S. Senator from Wisconsin, prepared statement .. 46 Gallucci, Hon. Robert L., dean, Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University, Washington, DC .......................................................... 64 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 67 Hagel, Hon. Chuck, U.S. Senator from Nebraska, prepared statement ............. 44 Halperin, Dr. Morton H., senior fellow, Council on Foreign Relations, Wash- ington, DC ............................................................................................................. 81 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 84 Hamaz, Dr. Khidhir, former Iraqi Nuclear Physicist; president, Council on Middle Eastern Affairs, New York, NY .............................................................. 15 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 20 Hoar, Gen. Joseph P., USMC (Ret.), former commander in chief of U.S. Central Command (1991-1994), Del Mar, CA .................................................... 76 Kemp, Dr. Geoffrey, director, Regional Srtategic Programs, The Nixon Center, Washington, DC ................................................................................................... 129 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 133 McInerney, Lt. Gen. Thomas G., USAF (Ret.), former Assistant Vice Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force, Washington, DC ........................................................... 78 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 80 Parris, Hon. Mark R., senior policy advisor, Baker, Donelson, Bearman, & Caldwell, Washigton, DC ..................................................................................... 136 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 139 Telhami, Dr. Shibley, Anwar Sadat Professor for Peace and Development, University of Maryland, College Park, Md.; nonresident senior fellow, Brookings Institution, Washington, DC ............................................................. 117 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 121 Wellstone, Hon. Paul, U.S. Senator from Minnesota, prepared statement ........ 6 THURSDAY, AUGUST 1, 2002 Page Al-Shabibi, Dr. Sinan, consultant to the United Nations, Geneva, Switzerland 188 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 193 Berger, Samuel R., former National Security Advisor; president and CEO, Stonebridge International LLC, Washington, DC ............................................. 237 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 239 (III) VerDate 11-MAY-2000 18:09 Sep 20, 2002 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 81697 SFRELA1 PsN: SFRELA1 IV Page Feil, Col. Scott R., U.S. Army (Ret.), executive director, Role of American Military Power, Association of the U.S. Army, Arlington, VA ......................... 196 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 199 Francke, Rend Rahim, executive director, Iraq Foundation, Washington, DC .. 177 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 183 Hagel, Hon. Chuck, U.S. Senator from Nebraska, prepared statement ............. 161 Marr, Dr. Phebe, former professor, National Defense University, Washington, DC .......................................................................................................................... 165 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 170 Weinberger, Hon. Caspar, former Secretary of Defense; chairman, Forbes Magazine, Washington, DC ................................................................................. 231 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 235 ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD Bennis, Phyllis, Institute for Policy Studies .......................................................... 265 Byler, J. Daryl, director, Mennonite Central Committee U.S. Washington, DC .......................................................................................................................... 269 Pellot, Dr. Peter L., emeritus professor of Nutrition, University of Massachu- setts in Amherst and Dr. Colin Rowat, lecturer in Economics, University of Birmingham ...................................................................................................... 271 VerDate 11-MAY-2000 18:09 Sep 20, 2002 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 81697 SFRELA1 PsN: SFRELA1 HEARINGS TO EXAMINE THREATS, RE- SPONSES, AND REGIONAL CONSIDERATIONS SURROUNDING IRAQ WEDNESDAY, JULY 31, 2002 U.S. SENATE, COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in room SD–419, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (chairman of the committee), presiding. Present: Senators Biden, Dodd, Feingold, Wellstone, Bill Nelson, Lugar, Hagel, Chafee and Brownback. The CHAIRMAN. The hearing will come to order. Welcome, everyone, here this morning to what is the beginning of, I hope, for lack of a better phrase, a national dialog on a very important question. There are some very difficult decisions for the President and for the Congress, and we think it’s important, the members of this committee, that we begin to discuss what is being discussed all over, but not here in the Congress so far. The attacks of 9/11 have forever transformed how Americans see the world. Through tragedy and pain, we have learned that we can- not be complacent about events abroad. We cannot be complacent about those who espouse hatred for us. We must confront clear danger with a new sense of urgency and resolve. Saddam Hussein’s pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, in my view, is one of those clear dangers. Even if the right response to his pursuit is not so crystal clear, one thing is clear. These weapons must be dislodged from Saddam Hussein, or Saddam Hussein must be dislodged from power. President Bush has stated his determina- tion to