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Minutes of the 11Th Meeting of the Housing Affairs Committee of Sham Shui Po District Council (5Th Term) (Translation) Minutes of the 11th Meeting of the Housing Affairs Committee of Sham Shui Po District Council (5th Term) Date: 19 October 2017 (Thursday) Time: 9:30 a.m. Venue: Conference Room, Sham Shui Po District Council Present Chairman Mr YAN Kai-wing Members Mr CHAN Kwok-wai Mr CHAN Wai-ming, MH, JP Ms CHAN Wing-yan, Joephy (Arrived at 9:45 a.m.) Mr CHENG Wing-shun, Vincent, MH Mr CHEUNG Wing-sum, Ambrose, BBS, MH, JP Ms CHOW Wing-heng, Zoé (Arrived at 9:55 a.m.; left at 11:10 a.m.) Mr CHUM Tak-shing (Arrived at 10:50 p.m.; left at 12:50 p.m.) Mr HO Kai-ming, Kalvin (Arrived at 11 a.m.) Mr KONG Kwai-sang (Arrived at 11:30 a.m.) Mr LAM Ka-fai, Aaron, BBS, JP (Arrived at 10:40 a.m.) Ms LAU Pui-yuk Mr LEE Tsz-king, Dominic (Left at 1:30 p.m.) Mr LEE Wing-man Mr LEUNG Man-kwong Ms NG Yuet-lan (Left at 1:30 p.m.) Mr TAM Kwok-kiu, MH, JP Mr WAI Woon-nam (Left at 11:30 a.m.) Mr WONG Tat-tung, Dennis, MH, JP (Arrived at 10:30 a.m.; left at 1 p.m.) Mr YEUNG Yuk (Arrived at 10:15 a.m.) Co-opted Members Mr CHEUNG Tak-wai (Arrived at 9:38 a.m.) Mr FUNG Man-tao, Joshua (Arrived at 9:40 a.m.; left at 11:55 a.m.) Mr LI Kwing (Left at 12:55 a.m.) Ms TANG Mei-ching - 2 - Action by In Attendance Miss CHEUNG Yun-chee, Freda Assistant District Officer (Sham Shui Po) 2 Mr WONG Leung-ping, Ben Senior Liaison Officer 2, Sham Shui Po District Office Mr LAI Huen-lam, Stephen Assistant District Social Welfare Officer (Sham Shui Po) 1, Social Welfare Department Mrs CHENG IP Sau-fong, Susanna Senior Housing Manager/(KWS) 1, Housing Department Miss AU Mei-lin, Rebecca Senior Housing Manager/(KWS) 2, Housing Department Mr CHAN Yiu-keung, Dominic Senior Housing Manager/Redevelopment, Housing Department Mr FUNG Chi-hang, Victor Acting Senior Architect (1), Housing Department Ms CHU Yuet-han Acting Housing Manager/CP 5, Housing Department Ms WONG Lai-fong Housing Manager/KWS8, Housing Department Miss CHENG Kwok-lan Housing Manager/KWS3, Housing Department Mr CHAN Hau-chung Divisional Officer (Kowloon West), Fire Services Department Secretary Mr CHU Ka-chun, Alex Executive Officer (District Council) 4, Sham Shui Po District Office Absent Members Mr LEUNG Yau-fong Ms NG Mei, Carman - 3 - Action by Opening Remarks The Chairman welcomed members and representatives of government departments to the eleventh meeting of the Housing Affairs Committee (“HAC”). Agenda Item 1: Confirmation of minutes 2. The Committee confirmed the minutes of the tenth meeting held on 27 July 2017 without amendment. Agenda Item 2: Matters for discussion (a) The phased clearance programme for the redevelopment of Pak Tin Estate The redevelopment of the older parts of Pak Tin Estate (Phases 12 and 13) (HAC Paper 76/17) 3. Miss Rebecca AU, Mr Victor FUNG, Mr Dominic CHAN and Ms CHU Yuet-han introduced Paper 76/17. 4. Mr TAM Kwok-kiu raised the following enquiries: (i) the current number of tenants and units of Blocks 9, 10, 11 (Phase 13) and Block 13 (Phase 12); (ii) the number of car owners and parking spaces affected by the demolition works under Phase 10 and the scheme to deal with the problem; (iii) the Department intended to rehouse the tenants of Phase 13 to Phases 7 and 8, and the tenants of Phase 12 to Phase 11, he enquired whether it was possible to allow the residents of Phases 12 and 13 to make their choice at the same time; (iv) the information on the size of newly-built units, etc. allocated to tenants. 5. Mr CHAN Wai-ming said that he noted that the Department would allow those Pak Tin Estate tenants who chose to vacate early to move to So Uk Estate which would be ready for occupation in mid-2018, he enquired of the Department about the number of units that would be reserved for tenants. He hoped that the Department would provide detailed information for reference of the District Council (“DC”). 6. Mr WAI Woon-nam raised the following views and enquiries: (i) he enquired about the reasons why Phases 12 and 13 of Pak Tin Estate could not be redeveloped at the same time, and considered that it was more desirable to have them redeveloped at the same time; (ii) many residents of Phase 12 hoped to move to So Uk Estate, but they worried about the availability of suitable units because Phase 13 would be demolished first and its tenants allowed to make selection first. He hoped that Phases 12 and 13 could be demolished at the same time, so that the tenants of both phases might make their selection at the same - 4 - Action by time; (iii) he enquired about the details of the new primary school to be provided by the Department and the Education Bureau (“EB”) at the site of Phase 12. 7. Ms TANG Mei-ching pointed out that the shop owners of Pak Tin Estate were affected by the redevelopment works with business slackened a great deal, and she raised the following enquiries: (i) the number of shop owners the Department had approached and their response to the arrangement regarding subsidies and the rent-free period; (ii) the difference in rent between the new shopping centre and the old one, she considered that if the rent charged by the new shopping centre was too high, the shop owners might not be able to afford; (iii) the data on the size of newly-built units. 8. Mr LEUNG Man-kwong raised the following views and enquiries: (i) as the car park of Pak Tin Estate would be demolished in April next year, he enquired whether the Department would liaise with relevant departments to convert the idle sites in the district into temporary car parks to cater to the demand for parking spaces in the district; (ii) he enquired when the old Pak Tin Catholic Primary School would be demolished, he worried that if the old school was to be demolished after the completion of the new one, the demolition works would cause serious nuisance to the students of the new school premises. Hence, he hoped that the Department would make satisfactory arrangement. 9. Miss Rebecca AU responded as follows: (i) At present, there were 346 parking spaces for private vehicles and motor cycles in Pak Tin Shopping Centre, and the letting rate was about 80%. Such parking spaces would be leased out until March 31 next year and the Department would notify the affected vehicle owners in advance. (ii) At present, quite a number of parking spaces in the Shopping Centre were rented by non-residents of Pak Tin Estate. The Department would put in place a mechanism to give priority to the processing of applications for the parking spaces in the Shopping Centre made by Pak Tin Estate residents, in order to offset the decrease in the number of parking spaces due to the demolition of car park, and minimise the impact on residents. (iii) The Department would make appropriate deployment so that some hourly parking spaces in Pak Tin Estate would be used as monthly and hourly parking spaces, and some parking spaces for goods vehicles would also be turned into parking spaces for private vehicles. Meanwhile, in the adjacent housing estates such as Nam Shan Estate, Shek Kip Mei Estate and Chak On Estate, there were parking spaces available for application by non-residents, and this might alleviate the shortage problem of parking spaces. - 5 - Action by (iv) The Department would continue to take an open position and identify other suitable locations for car parking purpose. (v) The works regarding Phases 7 and 8 was scheduled to be completed by 2019/2020 when 94 car parking spaces would be provided. 10. Mr Dominic CHAN responded as follows: (i) According to the data, there were about 1 400 tenants in Phase 13 and about 800 odd tenants in Phase 12. The redevelopment of Phases 7 to 8 of Pak Tin Estate could provide 2 030 units which would be used to rehouse the tenants of Phase 13 affected by the demolition works, while the 1 088 units provided after the redevelopment of Phase 11 would be used to rehouse the tenants of Phase 12 affected by the demolition works. Since the units provided after the redevelopment of Phases 7 to 8 would be inadequate to rehouse the two batches of residents at the same time, hence the demolition works had to be carried out by two phases. (ii) Regarding the reservation of units in Phase 2 of So Uk Estate, if not affected by other factors, arrangement could be made for the combined processing of early removal applications submitted by affected residents of the two phases. Regarding the number of units reserved, the Department was for the time being processing the registration of tenants so as to understand their demand for So Uk Estate units. He reiterated that with limited resources, the Department had to balance the needs of rehoused tenants and Public Rental Housing (“PRH”) applicants and make appropriate allocation. 11. Mr TAM Kwok-kiu requested the Department to provide information on the size of various types of units. 12. Mr Dominic CHAN responded that, Note 2 in HAC Paper 76/17 submitted by the Housing Department (“HD”) had set out the range of internal floor area of modular flats recently completed (i.e.
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