Worden Hall Consultation Comments
Total Page:16
File Type:pdf, Size:1020Kb
Option 1 – Comments Weddings!!! Why would you put forward something running at a loss. Not an option in my view. Angry that you feel the 3 options are an option. Feel you own feelings are getting in the way Carof the parking masons and option. car access is my biggest worry with any of these proposals. The road location is dangerous especially while young children and dog walkers enjoy the park. Currently taxis speed along the road at pick up and drop off times for the gardens, I’m worried about any increase in traffic as the road runs through the centre of the park. At least one dog has been run over by a speeding vehicle coming through the park. If the proposals are accepted I think another path exclusive for dog walkers and pram users would be required as when the park is wet it is impossible to walk on the grass so the road is the only option for pram users and wheelchair users to use at the present time. I have been looking for a space to run my local slimming world groups, I pay 13k a year in venue hire so don’t see how you can only make 15k from using as a community let. Surely there is more money to make, I would be interested in looking at leasing some space if the square metres are enough. My groups are well established in Leyland and have served the community for nearly 10 years, changing peoples lives and we continue to help people live a healthier lifestyle. This is a great proposal for the redevelopment of Worden Hall as a new Council ‐ Community based venue & facility This is probably the best option of the three presented but ticking 'I understand' is only on the basis of the facts as stated by the Authority Think you should open it up for public use. Make coffee shop bigger use conservatory for this would be beautiful done in there. We have alot of visitors and tourists who come to Leyland and visit, could get local business selling things. Weddings etc or private hire is also a good use. Why isnt the freemasons an option now??? I wasnt aware they are bad people & dont they do alot for good causes locally? & nationally?? I think the council need to concentrate funds on other needs. A private sale or lease will generate positive income and might provide much needed jobs in the area The projections look very optimistic to me and still show a loss. I truly believe that the best option were the plans put forward by Leyland Freemasons. For want of a better expression , their plan was an absolute “ no brainier “ Can’t wait to see what will happen when you start to ask the people of south Ribble for an increase in council tax to pay for your other “options” I would rather the council spend the money on policing in the area rather than pump my taxes into a complete money pit. Why not use the deal agreed with the previous administration? The Hall must remain open for use by the public and available and accessible as a community centre. It is a beautiful building ‐ what remains of it ‐ and it is part of Leyland's Iheritage. was happy with the idea of the masons spending money on the building provided it could still be used for community purposes. Which it what they proposed. This would have saved the council the expenditure proposed in this option and relieved them of the burden of running the operation. I am not involved with the masons in any way. I am very much in favour of this building NOT being used for the activities of or owned by a commercial outfit. It is against the whole ethos of the park for that to happen. The park was was given to the PEOPLE of Leyland and not to the Council to dispose of in that way. Very concerning if that were to be the chosen option and possibly the subject of a legal challenge. CAn temporary event structures eg Marquees etc or even a temporary licensed bar outdoors be used in summer or to increase capacity of events . Preferred option even af a loss, the park was left to the public and should remain with the public. No further parking needed. No interruptions to local people using local spaces. No disruption to existing businesses and the users of their businesses ie the elderly dog walkers who use the cafe. Not much increase to the traffic through the park . Any increase would cause conflict with the current pedestrians, small children riding bikes, dogs, footballers, runners, wildlife. It's a public park for the use of the public, keep it that way. I would object to the conservatory being demolished. It is an amazing space with a lot of heart and soul from local artists and craftsman gone into it. I attended the grand opening of the conservatory as my mum used to work for the theatre. The conservatory and the hall would make an excellent restaurant in the evenings so not to take trade from the cafe. You could use runshaw college to support with the closure of their foxholes restaurant. The park is a local beauty and maybe utilise the local college students. See if maybe a business class could come up with some great profitable ideas. I love the fact the council wish to do something with the amazing space but what is the point of you predict the preferred option will generate a loss. You need to go back to the Coulddrawing provide board. a youth zone similar to Chorley. With a small cost for entrance. Help the 11‐ 15 year olds of our community these buildings used to be the home of a mental health charity shaw trust could they not be used for this again they did a lot of work with the public including schools and the wider public we need a space in Leyland to help people and enable them to be have better mental health and a feeling of comunity While access to the community is a preferred option, extending craft spaces does not seem to be an economical solution either for the council or the tenants. Existing tenants struggle to get footfall and their income is predominantly from their own marketing rather than from the studio location. Not sure why it couldn’t be run to make a slight profit? I think flexibility is the key to maximising income streams for this option, making the space able to be used for a wide variety of uses and making this a profitable option. Whilst a kitchen maybe desirable for catering, it is not essential as many functions including weddings can bring in mobile caterers who do not require a kitchen, for less cost and more income why not rent out ground space to a catering van? I do think the café needs upgrading with more space and better facilities and probably relocating at some point if not now as part of the redevelopment, more income from rent? All the existing outbuildings need to be used on a sound commercial retail basis, they all need to be used as craft/artisan type outlets and should be open at weekends as another reason to visit the park, it would appear some are currently just used as workshop space? Ice Cream parlour? Gift Shop? Small micro pub/brewery, Wine Bar? Look at how places like Cedar Farm Mawdesley have evolved. Consideration should be given to providing some semi permanent outside area for live music, ( Bowland Mill at Clitheroe have a small converted shipping container as a small covered stage, easily secured, quickly opened up v little maintenance costs) Look at what other councils do, Marine Hall Fleetwood run by Fylde Council is a good example. Rather than go to the expense of converting rooms into bedrooms for weddings as suggested for option 3, look at the introduction of Glamping pods or Yurts, see what Wyresdale Park Scorton have achieved, also they just provide empty space for DIY Weddings/functions, consider the use of the grounds for TeePee or Marquee weddings very much the trend. Getting the Hall and grounds back into use on a very regular basis should be the no 1 priority with community based activities as a focus. Why are there not monthly Artisan Markets? Many uses the grounds can be put to which will all provide extra income. Finally if this option is chosen, make it future proof so its capable of future expansion on a low cost basis, be wary of designs that will cost a lot of money to extend in future. I don't believe this to be a viable option on the grounds that: ‐ there is little or no current requirement for office space in the area; indeed, there is a glut of office space that cannot be filled; ‐ some of the craft workshops, eg stained glass, blacksmith, wood turner etc, have all gone from the premises. How, then, would other crafts be encouraged to use the premises if the past and present ones don't stay? ‐ CPRE were well established in the Derby Wing, but left when their lease expired and haven't been replaced, which would suggest there isn't the demand from community / Would probably end up costing the council far more than expected and to many variables to secure the long term future of the hall Was Worden Hall not left to the people of Leyland? I realise that someone has to 'manage' it, but selling it off doesn't seem in keeping with the original intention.