IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS

IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF MONTGOMERY, PENNSYLVANIA CRIMINAL DIVISION

COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA:

vs. NO. 3932-16

WILLIAM H. COSBY, JR.

TESTIMONY OF JANICE DICKINSON

Courtroom A Thursday, April 12, 2018 Commencing at 11:27 a.m.

Virginia M. Womelsdorf, RPR Official Court Reporter Montgomery County Courthouse Norristown, Pennsylvania

BEFORE: THE HONORABLE STEVEN T. O'NEILL, JUDGE

AND A JURY

COUNSEL APPEARED AS FOLLOWS:

KEVIN R. STEELE, ESQUIRE District Attorney M. STEWART RYAN, ESQUIRE KRISTEN GIBBONS-FEDEN, ESQUIRE Assistant District Attorneys for the Commonwealth

LANE L. VINES, ESQUIRE THOMAS A. MESEREAU, JR., ESQUIRE KATHLEEN BLISS, ESQUIRE JASON HICKS, ESQUIRE BECKY S. JAMES, ESQUIRE RACHAEL ROBINSON, ESQUIRE JAYA GUPTA, ESQUIRE for the Defendant

ALSO PRESENT:

JONATHAN PERRONE, Computer Operations Supervisor Montgomery County District Attorney's Office INDEX COMMONWEALTH'S EVIDENCE Witness VDire Direct Cross Redir Recr

JANICE DICKINSON 4 37 83

EXHIBITS COMMONWEALTH'S Number Description Marked Rec'd

C-11 Photograph 19 20

C712 Photograph 19 20

C-13 Photograph 19 20

C-14 Declaration of Pablo Fenjvez 87

Ct-15 Declaration of Judith Regan 94 4 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 THE COURT: Okay. You may call your

3 next witness.

4 MR. RYAN: Thank you, Your Honor.

5 Janice Dickinson.

6 - - -

7 JANICE DICKINSON, having been duly

8 sworn, was examined and testified as

9 follows:

10 DIRECT EXAMINATION

11 By MR. RYAN:

12 Q Good morning, Janice.

13 A Good morning.

14 Q Can you tell me where you live?

15 A I live in Tarzana, California.

16 Q And who do you live with?

17 My husband, Rocky Gerner.

18 Q And do you have any kids?

19 A I have two children: A son, Nathan. He's 30.

20 He's happily married. He just got married. And my

21 daughter, Savannah, she's 24. Both reside in Los

22 Angeles.

23 Q, Andiwhat about grandchildren, do you have any

24 grandchildren?

411 25 A I have three grandchildren that I adore, Fritz and 5 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 Abraham and Jacob.

3 Q Now,, did you always live in California? Did you

4 grow up somewhere else?

5 A Oh, I was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1955. And

6 I moved to -- the family moved to Hollywood, Florida

7 when I was 18 months old.

8 41 And is that pretty much where you grew up?

9 A Yes, until I was 18 -- 17.

10 Q, And who did you grow up with in your household?

11 A I have two sisters. I'm a middle child. My older

12 sister is five years older. Her name is Alexis Mayer.

13 My younger sister, Debbie Dickinson, is five years

14 younger than I am. She resides in New York and she has

15 a son.

16 Q You said you lived in Florida until you were 17

17 years old?

18 A. Yes.

19 Q1 Tell me at that time when you moved from Florida,

20 where did you move to?

21 A We drove to New York.

22 Q And who is "we"?

23 Ac Edna Grolnick and her daughter, Wendy, who is a

24 friend of mine from high school. We drove from

25 Hollywood, Florida to New York City. It was fun. 6 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

411 2 Q And you had graduated high school at that point?

3 A Yes.

4 Q4 And what was your purpose? Why did you go to New

5 York?

6 A I wanted to become a model.

7 Q And why did you want to become a model?

8 A Ever since I was nine years old looking at the

9 pages of Vogue Magazine, I wanted to be in the picture

10 as a model. I saw Lauren Hutton and that's what I

11 decided I wanted to be. I wasn't very good at school,

12 so --

13 Q And so, Janice, tell me, when you got to New York, 411 14 did you have any success at trying to become a model?

15 A Not at all. I didn't have an agent. And back in

16 those days, 1974, the girls that were working that were

17 very -- the everyday model was blond, blue-eyed. And I

18 don't fit that mold. And I was rejected for -- daily

19 for two years. I mean, I was so poor, I walked to all

20 of my appointments and begged people to take my

21 picture. And it wasn't working out.

22 S) So after those two years, did you go somewhere

23 ease?

24 A( I went to -- I was offered a ticket to go to

25 Paris, France to join an agency. And that's what I 7 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

4111 2 did. I flew to Paris and lived there roughly for about

3 two years.

4 And so at that point in time, were you getting

5 regular work as a model?

6 A At that time, yes. But prior to that, no.

7 Q So after those couple years in Paris, did you

8 return to the United States?

9 A I did, yes.

10 Q And where did you return to?

11 A, Well, New York City. New York City.

12 Q . Andi, again, you continued working as a model

13 there? 411 14 A, Yes,

15 Q Now, what year, if you can remember, would that

16 have been when you came back from Paris to the United

17 States?

18 A I want to give you the exact year, but I'm not

19 quite sure.

20 Q. It's okay. Why don't you just try and ballpark it

21 for me.

22 I don't like to do that.

23 Okay. Let's try it this way.

24 A I would say two years, so --

25 So this would be about 1978 or so? 8 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A Late '77, '78.

3 Q Okay. So I want to talk to you -- I want to fast

4 forward a little bit to the year 1982. Were you still

5 a working model at that time?

6 A Yes, I was.

7 Q And were you living in New York?

8 A Yes, I was.

9 Q Now, were you represented by an agency in 1982?

10 A. Yes, I was.

11 Q What agency was that?

12 A The Elite Modeling Agency.

13 Q And in that year, did you learn that a person 410 14 named Bill Cosby contacted that agency seeking to meet

15 with you?

16 A. I heard from my booker that Cosby wanted to meet

17 me.

18 Q And do you remember when you first did meet with

19 the defendant, Bill Cosby?

20 A, Yes.

21 Q Can you tell me about that?

22 A It was at his townhouse.

23 Qv And where was the townhouse?

24 A On the Upper East Side of New York City.

25 Qi When you went there to meet with him, how was that 9 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 arranged? Were you told to go to that address?

3 A Yes.

4 Q And were you with anybody?

5 A Yes.

6 Q Who was that?

7 A My business manager at the time, Charles Haugk,

8 Senior, a former retired New York City policeman.

9 Q Can you spell that last name for me?

10 A H -A -U -G -K.

11 Q So you were there with him. And when you arrived

12 to the house, who was present at the house?

13 A Cosby. 411 14 4c Okay. Was anybody else present?

15 A No.

16 Q And what --

17 A Well, I think he might have had a chef.

18 Okay. And what happened during the course of this

19 meeting?

20 A, I was very excited, you know. I was told that Mr.

21 Cosby mentored people and he was taking an interest in,

22 you know, checking me out, seeing what I was like,

23 suppose.

24 Q, And, you said you were excited about it. Why were

25 you excited about that? 10 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A Oh, America's Dad. He was, you know, very

3 well -respected, you know, from T.V., happily married

4 man, five children.

5 Q And so what was discussed at the meeting that you

6 had with him at his house?

7 A Pleasantries. Pleasantries. He took an interest

8 in my singing career which never got off the ground

9 because I can't sing. Seriously, I can't sing.

10 Q. I won't ask you to do it here.

11 A You don't want to hear that.

12 Q So you talked about that?

13 A That, and acting. And I remember distinctly that

14 hp said,. You have to be prepared; you have to be smart

15 and prepared and know you're -- you know, your craft.

16 So he went upstairs and he brought down a book written

17 by Kostantin Stanislayski called An Actor Prepares. It

18 was a big thick book. And I really wasn't good at

19 rememberLng things from a book because I just basically

20 had a high school education.

21 Q4- And;so after that meeting concluded, you left the

22 house, I take it?

23 A With Mr. Haugk, yes.

24 Q When was the next time that you had any contact

41, 25 with the; defendant that you remember? 11 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 It's so long ago. I was in Bali, Indonesia.

3 Qr Okay.

4 A And I was working for an oil company. They wanted

5 me to do a calendar, 12 photos, you know, for months of

6 the year. And I was on the beach and I got a call, and

7 I went to the hotel phone. And it was Cosby on the

8 telephone. And I was, like, thinking to myself, How

9 the heck did you get this number? Like, obviously

10 he -- I assumed that he must have gotten it from my

11 agent once again who had sent me over to his house in

12 the first place, Monique Pillard.

13 And -that was your agent's name?

14 AE Monique Pillard, French lady.

15 Q If I ask you to spell it, could you?

16 Ai P -I -L -L -A -R -D, M -O -N -I -Q -U -E.

17 Qc That was for our court reporter.

18 I actually want to ask you briefly

19 before we get to that, so this is Bali, Indonesia, you

20 said?

21 A. Yes.

22 Do you recall any sort of contact with the

23 defendant between meeting him at his home and then

24 receiving this phone call in Bali?

25 AK No. 12 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 Q Okay. So before -- I'm sorry.

3 A Oh, you know, I'm sorry. So I was on the beach in

4 Bali and I was thinking to myself, Why is this guy

5 calling me? You know, I didn't really have the

6 self-confidence in myself to be -- to become an

7 actress, but I really wanted it. I really, really

8 wanted a, career in acting. Because I had a wonderful

9 career. I worked very diligently, long hours as a

10 mpdel, traveled to many countries.

11 He said -- he offered me a plane ticket

12 aad a wardrobe to come meet him in Lake Tahoe where he

13 was performing.

14 Q, And did he -- at that time you had talked about

15 your interest in acting and that you wanted to advance

16 your career in that respect. During that phone

17 conversation, what was shared with you in terms of the

18 purpose of coming to see him in Lake Tahoe?

19 A. To further talk about my career. At that point I

20 was -- I really wasn't prepared. I hadn't read that

21 book, you know.

22 4,- Did. you have the book with you in Bali?

23 Ac No.1

24 So did you go and meet with the defendant in Lake

411 25 Tahoe? 13 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A I did.

3 Q And how did you get there?

4 A He offered me transportation. He said, Well,

5 you'll fly economy. And I said, No, I will not. I

6 will fly first class. He tried to get me to fly

7 economy.

8 Q So you did go to Lake Tahoe first class?

9 A Yes, I did.

10 Q And did you go directly from where you were in

11 Bp.li to Lake Tahoe?

12 Al I was staying at the Hotel Oberoi in Bali with my

13 then boyfriend Charles Haugk, Junior, Senior's son 41, 14 Charles Haugk, Senior; Charles Haugk, Junior -- because

15 I didn't want to go to Indonesia alone. But I felt

16 confident to accept his invitation because I saw this

17 as the next step, hopefully, to be -- to further my

18 career.

19 Q And so you did accept that invitation and went to

20 Lake Tahoe?

21 A Yes, I did.

22 And tell me, when you got to Lake Tahoe, tell me

23 what you remember doing when you first got there.

24 A When I arrived in Reno International Airport -- I

411 25 cleared customs in Los Angeles. So arrived in Reno, 14 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 went from LA to Reno. And then I was met by Cosby's

3 musical director, Stu, Stuby Gardner. That was his

4 nickname, Stuby. And Stuby Gardner met me at the

5 airport and told me that he was Cosby's musical

6 director.

7 Q And where did you guys go from there?

8 A Directly from the airport to the hotel.

9 AndQ what happened when you got to the hotel?

10 A, Well, I was so excited. It was freezing. There

11 was snow on the ground. And I don't know if I

12 previously said to Mr. Cosby on the telephone back in

13 Bali, I said, I don't have any clothes to wear in that 411 14 kind of a weather. He said, I'll provide the wardrobe.

15 And so when I got to my room, there were

16 several outfits spread out all over my room with a lady

17 from the downstairs boutique. There were ski clothes,

18 there were evening clothes, there was day casual wear

19 because T had only bathing suits and my shorts and

20 T=shirts.to run around in for my job in Bali.

21 So I changed my clothes, and then it was

22 determined before I -- as soon as I got changed that I

23 would meet Stuby Gardner down on a sound stage so he

24 could go over my hideous vocal range.

411 25 QE And;is that what you did next? 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT 15

2 Yes.

3 QF And when you went down to that sound stage, was it

4 just Mr. Gardner there?

5 A It was just Mr. Gardner on the piano. At that

6 point then I was really nervous because I was I was

7 more nervous in front of him because here's like a real

8 musician. I had been around musicians, I was married

9 to a musician when I was 18 years old, but it was

10 different. This time I was on the hot seat, piano

11 seat, going over my vocal range from the notes that --

12 hp was trying to match my range from the notes of the

13 piano to my actual voice, and I did not know what I was 110 14 dping.

15 Q, Did you come into contact with the defendant at

16 any point during this interaction?

17 Cosby walked into the room soon after and said --

18 the conversation was like, So he asked Gardner how I

19 was doing. And he said, Well, you see for yourself.

20 And then he started playing cords and I started to

21 sing. And Cosby put his fingers in his ears and just

22 grimaced and just went, Oh, like scratching fingernails

23 on a chalk board. It's like -- so I didn't sound that

24 gpod. I, wasn't able to belt it out like I could in the

25 shower. 16 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 Q So needless to say, there was not much more

3 singing, I guess, at that point?

4 A No. It was -- they were both kind. I remember

5 Gardner saying, Well -- Gardner -- no, it was Mr.

6 Cosby. He said, you know, You could be like Susan

7 Anton. She does singing and she does -- she just sings

8 and dances, and you could be like that. And I was

9 like -- I didn't really want to be like Susan Anton.

10 was thinking more Meryl Streep.

11 Q So did you have any -- well, let me ask you this:

12 After you were finished at the sound stage, did you

13 continue on with Mr. Gardner and the defendant? 410 14 A Yeah. I mean, it was like -- I was so jet -lagged

15 and I was also starting to get a little ill in my

16 stomach,, but it was then determined that we would go

17 watch Mr;. Cosby's show and then go to dinner

18 afterwards.

19 Okay. And so I want to take you to that dinner.

20 Where was the dinner, if you remember?

21 A- Inside the hotel.

22 Q And who was present at the dinner?

23 AF Mr.;-- Stu Gardner and Cosby.

24 Q4 And when -- do you remember what you ate during

410 25 the dinner? 17 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A No.

3 Or drank?

4 I drank some red wine.

5 Okay. What was the conversation about at dinner?

6 Al Well, I don't remember.

7 Okay. Do you remember anything that might have

8 happened during the dinner?

9 A, I started to get menstruation cramps and, you

10 know, I had my hand on my stomach. Probably travel

11 definitely -- my time of the month. And I mentioned it

12 to the gentlemen at the table and Cosby said, I have

13 something for that. And I was given a blue pill.

14 Q, Can you remember anything about what the blue pill

15 looked 14.ke?

16 Al It was a little round blue pill.

17 Qc Did you take the pill?

18 A. I did.

19 Did,you know what the pill was when you took it?

20 A No.

21 Q( Were you told anything specific about what the

22 pill was when you took it?

23 A I beg your pardon?

24 Q, Were you told anything specific about what the

25 pill was by anybody? 18 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A. It would -- it -- that it would help with my

3 menstrual pain, but I don't remember who said it. I

4 think it was Cosby.

5 So you take the pill. And then at what point in

6 relation to taking the pill did you finish dinner?

7 A I don't remember.

8 Q Okay. What did you do or what can you remember

9 out what you did after taking the pill?

10 We remained seated inside the restaurant. And

11 shortly after I took the pill, I started to feel woozy

12 and dizzy, woozy, slightly out of it.

13 Q Did, you remain in the restaurant? 411 14 A When we were finished, Gardner left. And Cosby

15 s&lid, Well, we'll continue this conversation upstairs,

16 SQ I followed him to his room.

17 Q Okay. And when -- let me just return to

18 something. When was it that you -- when you started

19 feeling woozy?

20 A Shortly after I took the pill.

21 Okay. And you were able to make it up to the

22 hotel room?

23 Yes,.

24 And did you have anything with you in the hotel

25 room? 19 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A Well, I always had my camera on me. I traveled

3 with an SX Polaroid camera and a Konica, an Instamatic

4 Konica. So I was always happy snapping.

5 Q Okay. And did you have both those cameras or one

6 of those cameras with you?

7 A I had the Polaroid camera with me.

8 (Photographs marked Commonwealth's

c. 9 Exhibits C-11, C-12 and C-13 for

10 identification.)

11 BY MR. RYAN:

12 Qf I'm going to approach you with three documents

13 which I have marked as C-11, 12 and 13. I'm going to

14 ask you to look at those and tell me when you're

15 finished looking at them.

16 A (Witness complied.)

17 Are you finished?

18 A I am.

19 Qi What are those photographs there?

20 A, These are Polaroids taken when I was sitting by

21 the edge of his bed. Cosby was seated at the desk. He

22 had changed into a bathrobe. He had a brown velvet hat

23 and a patchwork robe on. He was wearing glasses, a

24 wrist watch, gold wrist watch, a wedding band, and a

25 signet ring that had the initials BC on it, primitively 20 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

411 2 written.

3 Q So let me ask you this: Those copies that I've

4 handed you, those are fair and accurate copies of the

5 pictures that you took at this time?

6 A I took these photographs.

7 MR. RYAN: I'd move for the admission of

8 CT11, 12 and 13.

9 MR. MESEREAU: No objection.

10 THE COURT: So moved.

11 (Commonwealth's Exhibit C-11, C-12 and

12 C-13 received in evidence.)

13 MR. RYAN: At this time I'm going to 411 14 publish to the jury.

15 (Exhibit C-11 published to the jury.)

16 BY MR. RYAN:

17 So the first thing up on this board that's in

18 front of you, that's C-11; right?

19 A Yes.

20 Qt Andiyou describe a couple things: The robe, the

21 hat, the watch, and you see the ring on there. He's on

22 the telephone in this picture?

23 A Yes. he is.

24 (Exhibit C-12 published to the jury.)

411 25 BY MR. RYAN: 21 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

that's going to 2 Q Okay. And if you go to next one,

3 be C-12. And Janice, can you tell me if what's up on

4 the screen what I have marked as C-12, is that C-12?

5 A Yes, sir.

6 (Exhibit C-13 published to the jury.)

7 BY MR. RYAN:

8 And then we can go to the next one, Janice. If

9 ypu look at C-13, tell me if C-13 -- is that what is up

10 on the board now?

11 A Yes, it is. I took these photographs.

12 Q j And you kept them?

13 A. I did. I threw them in the box. I took thousands

14 of photographs.

15 Q And'in fact, I believe there was a fourth

16 photograph that you took this evening; right?

17 A I did. I didn't see it here.

18 Q Now, you took those photographs. And what, if

19 anything, do you remember after taking the photographs?

20 A I was feeling really lightheaded and really

21 when I spoke, it didn't sound like my words were coming

22 opt. I yias in my head.

23 Q You said you were in your head?

24 A Yeah, I was like really in my head. I couldn't -

25 couldn't -- I couldn't get the words out that I 22 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 wanted to say.

3 So --

4 A Like we weren't discussing my career. He was on

5 the phone.

6 Q And when you started feeling this way, what

7 happened next that you remember?

8 A. Shortly after I took the pictures and he finished

9 his conversation, he got on top of me.

10 AndQ when you say he got on top of you, where were

11 ypu?

12 A I was seated at the edge of the bed.

13 Q, And --

14 A He got on top of me and his robe opened. And I

15 remembers he smelled like cigars and espresso and his

16 body odor.

17 Q, And what happened next?

18 A I couldn't move. I was just -- I felt like I

19 was rendered motionless, just immobile. And I was

20 thinking, What the fuck -- sorry, what the heck? What

21 the heck is he doing? Like, I was just in shock. I

22 didn't consent to this. I hadn't said yes.

23 Well, tell me what in particular was happening

24 that you didn't consent to other than what you've just

25 tpld me. 23 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A Having sex at all.

3 Q Do you remember --

4 I didn't fly into Tahoe to have sex with Mr.

5 Cosby.

6 Were you able to feel anything that indicated to

7 you that sex was, in fact, occurring?

8 A Say that again.

9 Q Sure. Were you able to feel anything in terms of

10 your body, your physical sensations that told you that

11 sex was occurring or was this something you believed

12 was occurring?

13 Ac Oh, no, it was occurring because I -- I remember

14 his breath. I remember the taste of his kiss. It

15 smelled Like cigars and espresso. I remember here was

16 America's Dad on top of me, a happily -married man with

17 fj..ve children. And I remember just thinking how wrong

18 it was, how very, very wrong it was.

19 Q. And at that point in time did you remain conscious

20 throughout that experience?

21 Before I passed out, I mean zonked out, I felt

22 pain between my legs, vaginal pain.

23 Q- And so you said that happened before you passed

24 out, so you did pass out at some point?

25 A I passed out after he entered me. 24 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 Q Okay. And --

3 A It was gross.

4 Q And what's the next thing you remember after

5 passing out?

6 A I woke up the next morning in my room. I didn't

7 know where I was. I didn't -- you know, I had to wake

8 up and consciously gather myself. And I looked down

9 and I had -- I noticed semen between my legs and I

10 noticed -- I felt anal pain.

11 I took a mirror and I looked at myself.

12 I could see that my -- I was very, very sore.

13 rpmember having pajamas halfway on and halfway off with

14 np bottoms on and thinking I am disgusted and I am in

15 shock and humiliated and --

16 Q Did you see the defendant again that day?

17 A Yes.

18 Q And where was that?

19 At. We went to a house on a lake that belonged to Bill

20 Harrah.

21 Qj Was that in Lake Tahoe?

22 A I don't remember -- I don't know if it was in Lake

23 Tahoe or Reno.

24 Q Okay. And you said it belonged to Bill Harrah?

25 Do you know who Bill Harrah is? 25 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 A He owned the hotel where Cosby was performing his

3 stand-up comedy show.

4 And what happened at that house?

5 A Me and -- he was talking to some a nice man

6 that was wearing a red track suit. He was introduced

7 as his -- like a man who was like a trainer. They were

8 talking about working out.

9 And I was in shock, like -- like, in

10 disbelief of what happened the previous evening of

11 being --,having this incident happen to me.

12 Qi Did you ever attempt to talk to the defendant

13 about what had happened?

14 A, Oh, I went up to him and I said, May I have a word

15 with you? And I remember this as clear as I'm sitting

16 here looking at you now. May I have a word with you?

17 And I walked out the back door onto a dock with Cosby.

18 We crossed a long -- very long backyard

19 otito a dock because it was on a lake. And I said, Do

20 you want to explain what happened last night because

21 that wasn't cool, that -- and he said nothing. He

22 looked at me like I was crazy. And I didn't feel crazy

23 at that moment standing up for myself saying, like,

24 That's not cool. That's not cool.

25 I remember saying, You're married, how 26 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 did this happen, like why did you do it, stuff like

3 that. So much more was going through my brain.

4 Q And you never received a response?

5 A Well, I wanted to hit him.

6 But you didn't?

7 A I wanted to punch him in the face. No. I can

8 remember feeling anger, disgust, humiliated, ashamed.

9 Q1 Did,you leave Lake Tahoe at some point in time?

10 A The next day.

11 And how did you leave Lake Tahoe?

12 A' On an airplane seated next to Mr. Cosby.

13 Q And was Mr. Gardner on the flight as well?

14 A I don't remember.

15 Q; And, who booked those plane tickets?

16 A I don't know.

17 Q You did not book them?

18 A I did not book them.

19 Q And when you left Lake Tahoe, what was your

20 ultimate destination?

21 A Los Angeles, and then right back to Bali,

22 Indonesia to complete my work as a model.

23 Q And you returned to Bali?

24 A Yes.

25 Q And when you returned to Bali, did you tell anyone 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT 27

2 in Bali what had happened?

3 A I don't remember.

4 Q Did you call the police about what happened?

5 A No.

6 Q At any point in time did you call the police and

7 report what happened?

8 A, No.,

9 Q Janice, why if this happened did you not call the

10 police and tell them about it?

11 A I was working, very successfully working after

12 struggling for those two years in New York not getting

13 any work. I finally made it. I was famous as a model.

14 I had conservative clients, Spiegel Magazine, Vogue,

15 fashion shows, T.V. commercials, Maybelline, Revlon. I

16 had clients that would not appreciate the fact that I

17 had been raped and gone to the police to report the

18 crime that took place against me. And I felt

19 victimized. And that's why I didn't go to the police.

20 Q Do you recall having any other sort of contact

21 with the: defendant after this occurred?

22 A I don't remember. No. I don't remember. Yeah.

23 He called me years later. I was -- I think I was -- it

24 was on a,cell phone. I was in Los Angeles. And he

25 called and he said he really liked the Virginia Slims 28 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 campaign that I was doing at the time.

3 Now, I do want to draw you back to the time prior

4 to going to Bali and after you first met the defendant

5 at. his house in New York.

6 Did there come a time where you sought

7 any sort of treatment in between those two dates?

8 A I went to rehab in 1982. I was -- someone gave me

9 an eightball of cocaine and, you know, I was, like,

10 Okay, I'll try this. So I tried the coke, the cocaine.

11 And then .I tried another -- another hit of the cocaine.

12 And the next day I tried it. And then the next day I

13 tried it.

14 So after I took that hit of cocaine that

15 someone gave me -- I mean, I didn't pay for it -- I was

16 feeling like, you know -- my behavior wasn't the same.

17 Ilwasn't -- I wasn't Janice anymore and I was being

18 irreverent to my agent and I was showing up not

19 punctually to my clients.

20 And my boyfriend at the time, Charlie

21 Haugk, Junior, and my agent Monique Pillard and Charles

22 Hp.ugk, Senior, they all got together it was about

23 the third or fourth day. And I had champagne with the

24 cocaine. And they said, You're going to -- this is out

25 of control what you're doing. And I remember thinking, 29 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 You guys are just jealous. They said, No, this is a

3 problem and it can develop into a real problem and it

4 can develop where you'll lose everything that you've

5 worked so hard for, your career. You'll embarrass your

6 family. My parents were still in Florida.

7 I want to tell this story because I'm

8 looud of the fact that I had this intervention because

9 the people cared about me enough to put that mirror

10 right in front of my face instead of under my nose and

11 bpoked a ticket for me to go to Minneapolis. There's a

12 rehab in Minneapolis. And I got to Minneapolis and I

13 just felt -- it was like the middle of winter and I was 41, 14 really sad and lonely and forlorn and thinking to

15 myself, Why did I do this to myself?

16 But then still I didn't -- I didn't

17 understand anything until I -- until I was given a big

18 bpok of Alcoholics Anonymous. It's a 12 -step. And I

19 sarted going to AA meetings every day for 28 days,

20 spmething I'd never gone to before. And during the

21 cpurse of the process of 28 days, we worked on

22 character defects that I had growing up.

23 And I don't want to interrupt you, but I do want

24 tp ask -7

25 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. He 30 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 interrupted the witness.

3 MR. RYAN: I thought it sounded like a

4 narrative.

g. 5 THE COURT: He said he didn't want to

6 interrupt.

7 MR. MESEREAU: I don't want him to

8 interrupt.

9 THE COURT: I understand, but you don't

10 get to control the trial. So I get it. He stopped and

11 he now wants to ask another question. I have not had

12 that objection on the other side.

13 So if he wants to interrupt his witness

14 tp stop and then ask another question, he can do that

15 as well. And then you'll remember it and then follow

16 up on cross if you feel you need to. Thank you.

17 BY MR. RYAN:

18 Qt I did interrupt you. And I want to ask you a

19 question, which is: During that period of time that

20 ypu were in Minneapolis in that rehabilitation

21 facility, do you remember having any contact with the

22 defendant?

23 Ae Cosby. Cosby called me in rehab.

24 So as you sit here today, you now remember that?

25 AI I remember -- I remember -- I remember that he 31 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 called me in rehab and asked me how my feelings were,

3 like that, How are your feelings? I was thinking to

4 myself, What the -- what the heck is this guy doing

5 calling me in rehab? Who calls somebody in rehab?

6 This is not a social party. This is my anonymous life.

7 This is -- I was in a fight.

8 And that was before the phone call to Bali or

9 phone call that he called you in Bali? I just want to

10 mke sure I understand the timeline of it.

11 A, I don't know. It's unclear to me whether it was

12 before or after I went to Bali right now. I'm really

13 spaced out.

14 Q Now, since this has happened to you in 1982, you

15 spoke publicly about it in and around 2014? Do you

16 recall that?

17 A. I did a T.V. show called Celebrity Rehab with Dr.

18 Drew Pinsky. And the premise of the show is

19 celebrities go live in a rehab and they talk about

20 their problems.

21 41 And, let me ask you the question this way. That

22 was in 2010, I believe?

23 A Oh, excuse me. It was, yeah -- actually, I think

24 I4ended that rehab July 17th, 2010.

25 Q Okay. And you explained that you said that or you 32 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 spoke to that individual, Dr. Drew Pinsky, about this

3 incident?

4 A Dr. Drew Pinsky. I did. I told him that this was

5 troubling for me keeping this inside of inside.

6 Q And without getting into the substance of that

7 conversation, the conversation you had with that

8 individual on this television show, that was not

9 something that was ultimately broadcast, as I

10 understand; is that correct?

11 A, Say that one more time.

12 Q Sure. The conversation that you had with this

13 dpctor, that was not part of the televised program?

14 Al No., I told him that I was raped in 1982. I told

15 h0.m what happened. I told him that this is something

16 that's on my list of -- there are lists we make in the

17 program of our character defects, and I list what was

18 my part in this. And the answer was nothing. I was a

19 vj.ctim. And --

20 Q And so the other thing that I'd like to

21 understand, and I'd like the jury to understand, is in

22 the year 2014, is it true that you spoke publicly, not

23 tp an individual, Dr. Drew Pinsky, but spoke out about

24 wliat had happened to you? Did that happen in 2014?

25 Well, I had spoken out after -- not -- I don't 33 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

411 2 know about 2014, but I had told -- I had told -- I did

3 tell my best friend at the time, Ed Tricony, a

4 h.p.irdresser who owns nine salons in the Greater New

5 York and Connecticut area. I told make-up artist Sandy

6 Linter what had happened with Cosby in Lake Tahoe.

7 I told -- I told -- later when I

8 wrote -- I was working on a memoir with a ghostwriter

9 npmed Pablo Fenjves. I had told Pablo Fenjves about

10 this. I, had told Judith Regan about this incident

11 because in my memoir, No Lifeguard on Duty, I wanted to

12 include this in my book. I want to talk about how I

13 was raped and given a pill that rendered me helpless 411 14 and about him calling me in rehab and about him sending

15 me -- he sent me two dozen red roses in rehab. I mean,

16 IFthought that was like -- you don't send -- I don't

17 know you well enough to send me two dozen red roses.

18 You send ,a wife two dozen red roses. So I tried to

19 tell this to my publisher.

20 QA And, was that ultimately included in the book that

21 you wrote?

22 A, No., The ghostwriter took poetic license to,

23 like -- their answers -- Judith Regan, she has her own

24 Tc.V. show, and Pablo who has ghostwritten many books

25 for celebrities said it would never get past Cosby's 34 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 legal team because he's a powerful guy, you know. And

3 they told me, He can ruin your career. They told me.

4 You know, and I knew that since 1982. I

5 knew that he could ruin my career if I ever came out

6 and said anything against him because you don't talk

7 about -- you don't say things to go against what Cosby

8 says to you. You just don't. That's what we don't do.

9 Q1 And that book, that was 2002?

10 A Correct.

11 Q, Now so we've described different individuals that

12 you had spoken to about this. In 2014 did you

13 ultimately meet with an attorney about these claims?

14 I did meet an attorney. His name is Robert

15 Shapiro. And he defended the OJ case. I knew him

16 socially, you know. I spoke to a couple attorneys,

17 spoke to John Branca.

18 Q; Well, let me ask you this. Are you currently

19 represented by an attorney?

20 Yes.

21 And who is that?

22 Well, Robert Shapiro told me I should get in

23 contact with a women's rights attorney, Lisa Bloom at

24 the Bloom Firm.

41) 25 4- Now, when you first made contact with Ms. Bloom, 35 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT t 2 had you already been speaking publicly about what 3 occurred to you in 1982?

4 A Yes.

5 Okay. And then ultimately after you began

6 speaking publicly, is it also true that you filed a

7 lawsuit against the defendant?

8 Yes.

9 Q And what was that in relation to?

10 I went on Entertainment Tonight to talk about the

11 incident after I had read in the New York Times about

12 the brave women.

13 And rather -- 411 14 A I just want to --

15 Q Let me ask you this.

16 A, I wanted to answer your question.

17 Qf It's okay. The question I was looking for and

18 it was perhaps an inartful one -- would be: Do you

19 know the specific legal claim?

20 A Defamation.

21 Q Okay. And that lawsuit is an active one?

22 It is an active one. Cosby called me a liar.

23 And that's why you've sued him?

24 Ar Yes. And Marty Singer. They dropped that.

25 Somehow he got out of that. Attorneys are smart. 36 1 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

2 Q If you can just give me one moment, Janice, I just

3 have a couple more questions for you. It goes back to

4 1982, Janice.

5 The pill that you were given, based on

6 the effects that you felt, do you have to this day any

7 idea what it was?

8 A No.

9 Q And;what happened to you in that hotel room in

10 Lake Tahoe in 1982, did you or were you able to consent

11 to what happened?

12 At No.

13 MR. RYAN: Those are all the questions I

14 have, Your Honor.

15 THE COURT: We can at least make sure

16 the jury -- again, I can start -- we can go and end at

17 1.?:30 and that will obviously break up our

18 cross-examination, or we can eat lunch.

19 Would you prefer to eat lunch now? And

20 I,won't count all the heads, but do you want to eat now

21 or just kind of stay with the regularly scheduled break

22 around 12:30 in the middle obviously this witness

23 will be in the middle of cross-examination. I want to

24 make sure that -- hands of people?

25 THE JURY: We're good. 37 JANICE DICKINSON - DIRECT

410 2 THE COURT: We're going to go to 12:30,

3 12:35. So understand that for your questions,

4 M. Mesereau, if you have categories or topics that

5 we're going to break around 12:35. Kind of what we've

6 been doing every day now.

7 So with that said, you may cross-examine

8 the witness.

9 MR. MESEREAU: Thank you, Your Honor.

10 CROSS-EXAMINATION

11 By MR. MESEREAU:

12 Qg Good morning, Ms. Dickinson.

13 A Good morning, Mr. Mesereau. 411 14 Qt As you know, I speak for Mr. Cosby. Okay?

15 A- Yes.

16 If anything I ask you is unclear, don't answer it.

17 Tpll me you don't understand the question and I'll try

18 to rephrase it. Okay?

19 A Yes.

20 Q. Now., did you do anything to prepare for your

21 testimony today?

22 I got dressed, showered, put on some make-up.

23 Did you meet with anyone to talk about what your

24 testimony would be?

25 A No. 38 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Q You didn't meet the prosecutors to talk about what

3 your testimony would be?

4 A I met the prosecutor in Los Angeles when the

5 detective and the prosecutor came to see if I was,

6 like, a sober witness, I suppose.

7 Q Now, when you walked in here today, you weren't

8 expecting me to refer to your book, did you?

9 I didn't know what to expect from you, sir.

10 Q Well, you describe these events with Mr. Cosby in

11 ypur book; correct?

12 Al I described -- I wanted to describe what actually

13 happened, what I swore on a Bible today to talk about.

14 Q . Well, this is a book written by you; correct?

15 A No.

16 It's called No Lifeguard on Duty?

17 A That's my name on it and it has episodes from my

18 life story, but Pablo Fenjves wrote the book.

19 THE COURT: Excuse me. What's the name?

20 THE WITNESS: Pablo Fenjvez,

21 ghostwriter.

22 BY MR. MESEREAU:

23 Q It's dedicated to your children, Nathan and Savy;

24 correct?,

41, 25 A Yes. 39 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

410 2 And also Alexis and Debbie; correct?

3 Yes.

4 Q And you take pride in this book, don't you?

5 A I took pride in the fact that I was able to get

6 this -- this book done so I could have a paycheck as a

7 single mom to feed my children. That's -

8 Q But you describe in very specific detail what you

9 claim happened in Lake Tahoe with Bill Cosby; correct?

10 A I didn't write the book, sir.

11 Butt you knew what was in the book?

12 At I told Pablo and I told Judith Regan exactly what

13 happened to me, and they have -- I have sworn 411 14 declarations from both of these people that will back

15 me up on= what actually happened and how they took

16 poetic license.

17 Q The book is authored by you; correct? It's by

18 Janice Dickinson, is it not?

19 I told Pablo Fenjves my story.

20 But you are the author of your book? He's your

21 ghostwriter; correct?

22 A Yes.

23 Q He also was a ghostwriter for O.J. Simpson;

24 correct?

41) 25 I don't know. 40 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Q He ghostwrote a book If I Did It.

3 A Yeah, I know that. Okay.

4 Q So he's the ghostwriter for O.J. Simpson and he's

5 the ghostwriter for you; correct?

6 A Yes.

7 Q And you describe in very specific detail your trip

8 to Lake Tahoe to meet Bill Cosby; correct?

9 A Yes.

10 Q You tell a very different tale in this book from

11 what youdescribed today; true?

12 A Yes.

13 Q Very different; correct?

14 A( Not very different.

15 Q Well, let's just talk about it. You've read your

16 book; correct?

17 Yes.

18 Q Okay. You describe your flight from Bali; right?

19 A I believe Pablo wrote that I was drinking and I

20 was out of my mind and I floated through an airport.

21 Pablo wrote all that stuff.

22 B t you approved it?

23 Aj I wanted a paycheck.

24 Q So you lied to get a paycheck?

25 A I don't lie, sir. Don't call me a liar. 41 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Q If you're saying this description is not true

3 about Bill Cosby, you would have to be a liar, wouldn't

4 you?

5 A I'm not a liar.

6 Q But, ma'am, you don't -- the things you testified

7 today that you say Bill Cosby did to you, you tell a

8 totally different story in the book; right?

9 I don't know.

10 Qt You don't know?

11 A No.

12 Q All right. You haven't read your book?

13 Ac I have

14 Qi Honestly, this is your book?

15 Honestly, I was working as a model at the time and

16 I, was taking photographs at the time to try to put my

17 children through education and to try to rent and pay

18 for the braces and insurance. And this was another

19 project of mine just trying to earn an income, sir.

20 I understand that. I appreciate that. But you

21 have to understand you told a tale for this jury today

22 that's completely different from what you said happened

23 in this book.

24 MR. RYAN: I would object, Your Honor.

25 She said that she didn't write the book. 42 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 THE COURT: Hold on. This is

3 cross-examination. She can answer him whether it is or

4 isn't.

5 THE WITNESS: Thank you, sir.

6 BY MR. MESEREAU:

7 Q You say you flew to Lake Tahoe; right?

8 A I can answer what you just said. You said, Right?

9 And then he objected.

10 Q Sorry. Sorry. Let me rephrase the question.

11 You understand why I have to go through

12 tIiis book with you, don't you?

13 A Yes. 410 14 Q You, tell a completely different story about your

15 meeting and experiences with Bill Cosby in the book;

16 right?

17 A They, the publisher and the ghostwriter that I

18 have sworn declarations from, Mr. Mesereau, of what I

19 did tell them, in fact, is true. Today I put my hand

20 on a Bible and I swore. I wasn't under oath when I

21 wrote that book.

22 Q Well, you say, "After dinner he asked me back to

23 his room and I went, but I stopped myself at the door.

24 'I'm exhausted,' I said, begging off. His eyebrows

25 went a little funny. 'Exhausted,' he asked? And it 43 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

41, 2 was clear he was trying hard to keep his temper in

3 check. 'After all I've done for you, that's what I

4 get? I'm exhausted?' "Well, gee, Bill,' I stammered,

5 'if I had known it was going to be like this.'.

6 "He waved both hands in front of my

7 face, silencing me. Then he gave me the dirtiest,

8 meanest look in the world, stepped into his suite and

9 slammed the door in my face.

10 "Back in my room I found a tiny bottle

11 of Quassia in the minibar, poured it into a plastic cup

12 and began pondering some of the big questions: What

13 tie fuck am I doing in Tahoe? What the fuck am I doing 411 14 with life? I dug through my bag, through my bottle of

15 14tamin C and popped two Quaaludes and drifted off to

16 sleep."

17 You say in this book you didn't have sex

18 with him at all; true?

19 A That's what's written.

20 But you knew it was written this way when you

21 w9.1ked into court today; correct?

22 Al Yes.

23 QE Why didn't you tell the jury that when you were

24 answering the prosecutor's questions?

411 25 I don't understand. 44 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 When you were answering the prosecutor's questions

3 about what happened with Bill Cosby in Lake Tahoe, why

4 didn't you tell him and tell the jury, more

5 importantly, that you wrote a totally different story

6 in your book?

7 A He didn't ask me, sir.

8 "In,the morning I checked out, took a cab to the

9 airport and got on the first flight to New York.

10 didn't even call Cosby."

11 It's all a fabrication there because I wanted the

12 ppycheckifrom the book to feed my kids.

13 Q So you made things up to get a paycheck about Bill

14 Cosby?

15 I told -- I told my publisher and I told my

16 ghostwriter exactly what happened to me in Tahoe. They

17 weren't there. You weren't there. I know what I did

18 avid I know what I'm saying today is under oath. And

19 I'm telling you the real story, and the jury.

20 4c But you published a book in 2002 that -

21 A So what?

is 22 41' -- that you dedicated to your kids, and this

23 what you said happened.

24 A. So what?

25 Q So what? 45 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

411 2 A So what? He raped me in Tahoe. He raped me in

3 Tahoe.

4 Q But you tell a totally different story.

5 A That has nothing to do with it.

6 Q Is your publicist with you today?

7 A No. Yes.

8 Q Are you looking for publicity fromyour testimony

9 today?

10 A I don't need publicity from this. I'm happily

11 married.1

12 Q Why is your publicist here?

13 A He's my best friend. 410 14 Q Did you tell the prosecutors about this book?

15 Ac Of course.

16 What did they say?

17 A, I don't remember.

18 Q Did' they care?

19 A Of course they care. Do you care about this case?

20 Q Did they ask you why did you write a totally

21 different story about what happened in your book?

22 A Let me explain to you. I went to Judith Regan

23 because I was broke. I needed money to pay my

24 children's education. Please don't interrupt.

25 Q I'm,not. 46 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

the 2 A I really needed to get that paycheck from

3 three books that have my name on them. I have sold

4 everything from Tampax to Coca-Cola to cars to jewelry

5 to get a paycheck to pay for my children.

6 A book, I suppose it's like for Cosby

7 just doing the difference between T.V. or an album or

8 writing books or public appearances. It's all -- you

9 take poetic license in what you do.

10 Today I'm under a sworn Bible and I

11 wouldn't be here if it weren't just to tell my true

12 story. And I know after I told my story, other victims

13 came out, from this monster.

14 Well, your story in the book says you didn't even

15 have sex with him.

16 A It doesn't make a difference what I said in the

17 bpok.

18 Qt You didn't even go into his room.

19 Ar That doesn't make a difference.

20 It doesn't make a difference?

21 A Nope. Have you written a book?

22 You; dedicated it to your children, but you're

23 saying it's false; correct?

24 I dedicate my life to my children. Everything I

25 do I dedicate to my children. 47 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Q Now, you made a statement in response to the

3 prosecutor's question that he was a married man and how

4 wrong it was for him to be interested in you; correct?

5 A It was wrong of me to be there in that bedroom

6 with him now that I look back in retrospect.

7 Q But you've dated married men, haven't you?

8 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor.

9 Rlevance.

10 MR. MESEREAU: She opened the door, Your

11 Honor.

12 MR. RYAN: I don't think she did.

13 THE COURT: I don't think she opened the

14 door. I mean, this is not a character debate and I've

15 gLven the jury instructions this is not about anybody's

16 character. It is about -- again, you can --

17 credibility and that, but I'm going to sustain the

18 objection. Let's move on.

19 BY MR. MESEREAU:

20 Q You didn't really think it was wrong to be with a

21 married, man; correct?

22 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor. Same

23 objection.

24 THE COURT: Overruled to that. That, he

25 can ask. 48 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 THE WITNESS: I thought it was hideously

3 wrong. I withdraw. I was drugged.

4 BY MR. MESEREAU:

5 Q In your books you say you date married men all the

6 time.

7 MR. RYAN: Objection.

8 THE COURT: Overruled. Did you think it

9 was wrong and then he's asking a question. She can

10 answer that question.

11 BY MR. MESEREAU:

12 Q. Don't you in your books where you talk about your

13 life talk about your dating married men?

14 A Show me it. Show me where I date -- show me in

15 tie book where I talked about it.

16 Q You talked about dating --

17 A; You,'ve got the book. Show it to me because I

18 don't remember saying that.

19 THE COURT: Ma'am, at this stage you

20 can't direct what -

21 THE WITNESS: I apologize.

22 THE COURT: He has a question. If you

23 have a question, go back to the age old -- you must, in

24 order to ask a question, have something. So if you

25 keep asking her, she's now asked you to show it to her. 49 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 BY MR. MESEREAU:

3 Did you make up a rumor --

4 MR. RYAN: I don't mean to interrupt

5 you. I'm sorry. I would object based on that last

6 question. Under 611, at a minimum if he's attempting

7 to do something with a document -

8 THE COURT: I'm well aware of it. I

9 have instructed throughout the case for all counsel to

10 show counsel what they're going to cross-examine a

11 witness about and then show the witness. That's how

12 it's done. I don't know how it is done in other

13 jprisdictions, but in this jurisdiction, just at least

14 show them. You obviously have something because you

15 wouldn't,ask the question if you didn't have it.

16 By MR. MESEREAU:

17 Q. Have you ever dated a married man in your life?

That's an objection. 18 t. MR. RYAN:

19 THE COURT: Now it's back to

20 objectionable.

21 MR. MESEREAU: I'll withdraw.

22 THE COURT: So we're fine line.

23 MR. MESEREAU: I'll move on.

24 THE COURT: I hear what you're saying,

25 but either show her where it says it in the book or 50 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 don't.

3 THE WITNESS: Thank you.

4 THE COURT: Don't thank me, ma'am. I'm

5 just calling balls and strikes.

6 BY MR. MESEREAU:

7 Q Did you spread a false rumor that you were

8 pregnant with Sly Stallone's child?

9 A No.

10 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor.

11 Relevance.

12 THE COURT: So it's not relevant to this

13 case, but, again, are you going somewhere in regards to 410 14 ap inquiry about credibility?

15 MR. MESEREAU: Yes.

16 MR. RYAN: I think you're also --

17 THE COURT: Overrule it for now, but I'm

18 not going to keep going down this road. He's going to

19 try again. This is trying to impeach her credibility.

20 By MR. MESEREAU:

21 Q Did you ever tell anyone that you were pregnant

22 with Sly Stallone's child?

23 I told Sly Stallone.

24 Qc And(you weren't; correct?

25 Aa I was pregnant, but not -- you know, I had sex 51 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 the only contender. with two men that month. He wasn't

3 Q You told him you were pregnant with his child and

4 you were not; correct?

5 A I told him I was pregnant.

6 Q Okay.

7 A He -- you know, he stayed with me throughout the

8 entire pregnancy. And after the DNA test where I

wasn't -- he was not the father of my child, thank God,

10 I(told the father of the child that he was the father

11 of my daughter.

12 Q Now, you sued Rite Aid Corporation a couple years

13 ago; correct?

14 Ar I'm in a -- I'm in a process. I got clunked on my

15 head by the arm of a parking arm, correct.

16 A d,you sued them because you had been in a Rite

17 Aid -- went into a Rite Aid parking lot; true?

18 MR. RYAN: I would object to the

19 relevance, Your Honor.

20 THE COURT: Well, you know, I'm going to

21 grant all attorneys -- you have some room to get to

22 whatever the point is, if it is around credibility for

23 motive. ;That's all I'm looking at. If he says it's

24 there, I'm going to allow something. If we don't

25 arrive to that location, then you're 52 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 MR. MESEREAU: It's credibility.

3 THE COURT: You don't have to tell me.

4 But you'e given me a prefatory objection.

5 BY MR. MESEREAU:

6 Just in summary, you said that you were in the

7 parking lot and a bar that goes up and down to let cars

8 go in and out hit you; is that correct?

9 A' Yes.

10 Q And you said it hit you because you were walking

11 to a parking attendant's booth and it hit you; is that

12 correct?'

13 A; I was trying to give the parking attendant an

14 apple.

15 Q You were trying to give them an apple?

16 A I was trying to give this lady an apple. I see

17 her every day.

18 QL And while you were trying to give her an apple,

19 you said you were hit; correct?

20 AR Yeah. The thing came down, like the car thing

21 came down. I was unaware that it was coming. It was

22 up at the time, and then it came down on my head.

23 And you sued for damages?

24 A, I didn't have any damages.

25 Q( But you sued for them? 53 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 A I have an attorney working on it.

3 Q Still working on it?

4 A Lee Arter, yeah.

5 Q Okay. But you sued for damages. And you claimed

6 that even though you drove home that day, you couldn't

7 remember driving; right?

8 A I don't remember that.

9 Do you remember saying I drove home and I worked

10 that day, but I had a concussion and don't remember?

11 A I walked to work, but it was -- it hurt me very

12 much getting hit in the head. It was like a baseball

13 bat. 411 14 Q And, you gave a sworn deposition; correct?

15 A Yes'.

16 (2`r And, you talked about your injuries; right?

17 A Yes.

18 And you mentioned that you were getting therapy

19 from a Dr. Lewis Engle; correct?

20 MR. RYAN: I would object to relevance.

21 THE WITNESS: He's my --

22 THE COURT: Hold on. Again, I'm going

23 to ask Mr. Mesereau to step outside so that you can at

24 least inform the Court where this is going, if it is,

25 in fact, as to motive, bias or inconsistent statements. 54 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 - - -

3 (Whereupon, a conference was held at

4 sidebar, not reported.)

5 - - -

6 THE COURT: All right. I've given you

7 the framework for the question within that context.

8 The objection is overruled.

9 BY MR. MESEREAU:

10 Q Here's what I'm getting to.

11 A Excuse me?

12 Here's what I'm getting to. You were suing for

13 psychological and emotional damages; correct? 41) 14 AI Yeah, my doctors' bills.

15 Anth you said in your sworn testimony that you were

16 suffering from anxiety your entire life; correct?

17 A Yes.

18 You talked about your father; correct?

19 A No.,

20 Q Well, you did, actually; right?

21 AY I don.'t remember.

22 Would it refresh your recollection if I just show

23 you the deposition?

24 A You can show me.

25 MR. MESEREAU: May I approach, Your 55 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Honor?

3 THE COURT: Yes.

4 (Approaching with documents.)

5 THE WITNESS: What should I read?

6 BY MR. MESEREAU:

7 Q So you talked about the causes of your anxiety

8 throughout your entire life; correct?

9 A I talked about my father being an abused --

10 abusing my older sister, yeah. I talked about that.

11 It would give anyone anxiety.

12 4) Ma'am, you were asked all the causes of anxiety in

13 your life; correct? 410 14 AI I beg your pardon?

15 Q You were asked what caused anxiety in your life;

16 correct? You mentioned your father?

17 Yes.

18 You,never mentioned Bill Cosby; correct?

19 I locked him away in a deep compartment inside my

20 soul. Abused women do that.

21 Q Well, you mentioned your father having abused you;

22 correct?

23 A He didn't actually abuse me. He tried to, but I

24 said no at age seven. He abused my older sister for

25 years. 56 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

4110 2 Q In your book, No Lifeguard on Duty, again you

3 dedicate this to your children who you love and there

4 are naked pictures of you throughout the book; correct?

5 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor.

6 THE COURT: I don't know how that is

7 relevant, but perhaps when we take our break for lunch,

8 which is what we're going to do because you've moved on

9 tp a new subject in the book, you're going to come back

10 a least, just like you did before. That helps me

11 preview relevance which is the objection that is on the

12 table. So don't answer anything else. Don't say

13 anything else. We're now going to take our luncheon

14 break.

15 So, ladies and gentlemen, close the

16 books. Again, I'm going to give you the instruction

17 first and foremost that whatever the conduct that was

18 part of the testimony, it is not for which the

19 dpfendant is on trial. That's that continuing charge

20 that I give you.

21 Now, the most important charge I'm going

22 to give you right now is, as you break, you're in the

23 middle of testimony again. You're getting to be

24 veterans, of how to handle this. You know that your

410 25 time for lunch is valuable. You've learned how to use 57 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 it in terms of getting your mind refreshed and having

3 something to eat, walking in the limited area we let

4 you walk around in.

5 But that's really what this time is for.

6 It's not to inadvertently over lunch talk about the

7 case or talk about anything that you think might be

8 relevant to the case or even commenting on anything

9 about what you've heard.

10 Also, if you use your mobile devices to

11 contact loved ones or family members or work, which is

12 what you're limited to doing, is that you of course

13 make sure that they're aware that they don't tell you

14 anything. Everything in this case you're getting live

15 and in person.

16 And that's what's going to make you the

17 most important people in this case because it's what

18 you hear from a witness stand and not what you would

19 read or see or what other people's opinions would be

20 about it. You've done a magnificent job with that and,

21 again, I know that you will continue.

22 You cannot use any social media to

23 contact anybody regarding your status in this case.

24 It's probably best to just stay off social media.

25 We're in, the case right now. So I know you know what r.

58 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 to do. You are excused for luncheon break to the call

3 of the crier and I'll have you brought back.

f. 4 (At 12:35 p.m., the jury was excused.)

5 THE COURT: All right. So, again,

6 you're moving on ma'am she can step down.

7 MR. STEELE: Can you just instruct her?

8 THE COURT: I'm going to give you

9 instructions. Ma'am, you are now under

10 cross-examination. Okay?

11 THE WITNESS: Yes, sir.

12 THE COURT: And it's a very important

13 part of the trial. And we need to break up a trial for 410 14 the jurors to go to lunch and all. So if you're --

15 it's as if you're under cross-examination. You have to

16 tbink of it in that fashion, that you wouldn't be able

17 to go down and talk to people who are here to support

18 you, the prosecutors, to anybody on any side, any

19 person you might see.

20 If you were, that would be violative of

21 the oath that you took because it's as if you are still

22 under examination. That's hard to do because you're

23 leaving a situation where you just talked about some

24 difficult things, your version of them, how the

25 cross-examination is. So you'd want to talk to 59 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 somebody. If you do, then that would be violative.

3 can't tell you -- I don't want to have to put you

4 have you in a room by yourself for lunch.

5 So that's a very important direction.

6 I've given it to every witness -- I'm not just giving

7 it to you -- because we break. It's just something

8 t#at is part of a trial and you can't be as if you're

9 pteparing or making sure did I answer that right or

10 apything like that.

11 Do you think you understand that?

12 THE WITNESS: Oh, I understand it, sir.

13 THE COURT: Thank you very much and we

14 N4.11, you know, alert the prosecution when to bring you

15 back.

16 THE WITNESS: Thank you.

17 (Witness excused.)

18 - - -

19 (Whereupon, a conference was held at

20 sidebar, not reported.)

21 - - -

22 THE COURT: Mr. Mesereau made an offer

23 of proof. Mr. Ryan -- and again, it involves a

24 question regarding naked pictures. I am sustaining the

25 objection and there will be no reference to naked 60 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 pictures in the book, nor will the jury be shown. And

3 that's a balancing test that I have employed. So I

4 don't want to see them. Now I've sustained the

5 objection.

6 - - -

7 (At 12:43 p.m., a recess was taken until

8 2:06 p.m. of the same day.)

9 - - -

10 (The following proceedings were

11 commenced in open court with the Court,

12 the jury, Mr. Steele, Mr. Ryan, Ms.

13 Gibbons-Feden, Mr. Vines, Mr. Mesereau, 410 14 Ms. Bliss, Mr. Hicks, Ms. James, Ms.

15 Robinson, Ms. Gupta, and the defendant

16 being present:)

17 THE COURT: All right. Ladies and

18 gentlemen of the jury, welcome back. I understand that

19 we've had an addition to the lunch, so -- I want to

20 make sure that all the jurors are comfortable, but the

21 Court's comfort dog came and had a visit over lunch.

22 So, you know, I'm expecting, you know,

23 that we can continue to do that at breaks and the like

24 because,fagain, we have Sudoku and Triptogram, and I

25 really want to make the best that I can that you feel 61 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 at least comfortable, so I'm going to try to meet all

3 those needs.

4 So I'm assuming that if you at breaks -

5 you know, again, whether just walking outside, if you

6 want the Court's comfort dog, everybody's agreeable

7 that it's okay. Carol will come in. But I'm going to

8 let that be kind of democracy at work. There might be

9 people that are like, Get him away, not while we're

10 eating or something like that.

11 So that is one of the permitted topics

12 tp talk about, whether you're going to have the comfort

13 dpg, but so far I hope it went okay. This is unique,

14 what we're doing here, and I am committed to making

15 sure that all of your needs in this very difficult

16 service can be met. So I hope you hear what I'm

17 saying. It's kind of your call.

18 All right. You may continue with the

19 cross-examination.

20 MR. MESEREAU: Thank you, Your Honor.

21 BY MR. MESEREAU:

22 Q Ms. Dickinson, in your book, No Lifeguard on Duty,

23 you never say that Bill Cosby drugged you, but you do

24 suggest that actor Randy Quaid drugged you; correct?

25 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor. 62 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Relevance.

3 THE COURT: Yeah. Without you telling

4 me on the record here again, I do need to know. I've

5 got to find out what your position is on the relevance

6 without telling the jury what your position is which

7 is, in case they don't remember, that your

8 statements -- so I'm going to try to make this quick.

9 Just tell me what the relevance is.

10 - - -

11 (Whereupon, a conference was held at

12 sidebar, not reported.)

13 - - - 411 14 THE COURT: All right. The objection is

15 sustained. You may move to another question.

16 BY MR. MESEREAU:

17 Q Mrs. Dickinson, are you here with your attorney?

18 A Yes.

19 Q. And your attorney is Lisa Bloom; correct?

20 A, Correct.

21 Qz Lisa Bloom is Gloria Allred's daughter; correct?

22 Yesl.

23 And Attorney Gloria Allred is here with her as

24 well?

25 I don't know if she's with her. She's here. 63 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

410 2 Q Do you see her sitting near her?

3 A Yes, I do. They're wonderful.

4 Does Gloria Allred provide you advice?

5 A Yes.

6 Q Does Lisa Bloom provide you advice?

7 A Yes.

8 Q And. she's representing you in your suit against

9 Mr. Cosby; correct?

10 A Yes,.

11 Q And you would like Mr. Cosby convicted? It would

12 help you win your lawsuit; correct?

13 A I want him to apologize to all the women. 411 14 Q You want to win your lawsuit with him?

15 Yes-.

16 Q Well, the lawsuit is based on the idea that he or

17 his representative called you a liar; correct?

18 AF Correct.

19 Q But you just told the jury you're willing to lie

20 to sell books; right?

21 A No.

22 Q You didn't tell them that this morning?

23 A2 I wanted a paycheck.

24 Q So you're willing to lie to get a paycheck; true?

25 A No. It was poetic license. 64 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

410 2 Q Poetic license?

3 A It wasn't like I lied. I wasn't sworn on the

4 Bible when I was working with all three ghostwriters

5 that wrote all three books.

6 Now, did you tell the jury this morning that Mr.

7 Cosby gave you a blue pill?

8 A Yes.

9 And you didn't know what that was; correct?

10 A Yes.

11 QF Is that true?

12 A Yes.

13 Qc According to your book, during this period of time 410 14 you were taking blue pills; correct?

15 A I don't remember.

16 Well, do you remember writing: "They came in all

17 colors, shapes and sizes like Nathan's. Two little red

18 pills got me out of bed in the morning. The green and

19 pink ones kept me on my feet on all day. And the blue

20 ones made for cosy slumber"?

21 A That was written with poetic license by the

22 ghostwriter.

23 Q: You didn't approve of this? You're the author of

24 the book; true?

25 A I work with a ghostwriter. My name is on the 65 1 JANICE DICKINSON -CROSS

2 book, yes.

3 Were you taking those pills?

4 A No.

5 Q Never took them?

6 A That was poetic license, again, to sell books.

7 Q Okay. Do you take a lot of poetic license in this

8 book?

9 A Everything.

10 Q Everything?

11 A Yeah.

12 Q You write about your life, your --

13 A My life is fantastic. 411 14 You write about your life growing up in Florida;

15 correct?

16 A Yes.

17 Q Is that all fake?

18 A Some of it's poetic license.

19 Q But you don't think poetic license means you're

20 lying?

21 A( Do you know what it means?

22 Q I'm asking you.

23 THE COURT: Ma'am, you have to answer

24 his question.

25 THE WITNESS: Yes, sir. 66 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 BY MR. MESEREAU:

3 Q Does poetic license mean I can lie and get away

4 with it?

5 A No.

6 Q Isn't that what you did in this book?

7 A No.

8 Q You lied to make profits; true?

9 A These books were frivolous episodes of my life.

10 When I wanted to write the true episodes of my life,

11 was denied.

12 Q Now, throughout this book, No Lifeguard on Duty,

13 you constantly talk about your drug use; correct?

14 A. I don't remember what you're referring to.

15 Q You talk about going to Studio 54 in New York;

16 cprrect?,

17 AcT That was great, yes.

18 Q You said it was like a home for you; correct?

19 A( It was a fantastic hedonistic place to go and spin

20 on the dance floor, yes.

21 Q And you did more than just spin on the dance

22 floor, didn't you?

23 A I tried to have a singing career there and, once

24 again, I bombed.

25 You constantly talk about all the drugs you did at 67 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Studio 54, you and your friends; right?

3 A Can you show me what you're referring to?

4 Q Sure. Let me just find it. Give me one second.

5 You talk about your friend Steve Rubell; correct?

6 A He wasn't my friend, but he owned the nightclub of

7 Studio 54.

8 4/ And did you do cocaine with him?

9 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor. She

10 asked to see what he was referring to.

11 THE COURT: Yeah. You did say you'd

12 show it to her and you're moving on to other questions.

13 MR. MESEREAU: My apologies.

14 THE COURT: Again, the questions aren't

15 evidence, so you're going to need to show it to her so

16 she can testify.

17 MR. MESEREAU: Yes, I am. Just one

18 second. I lost my --

19 (Approaching with documents.)

20 THE WITNESS: It doesn't say I used

21 drugs here.

22 BX MR. MESEREAU:

23 "And everywhere you turned people were fucking

24 like animals, but with less shame, less

25 self-consciousness than street dogs." 68 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 And you talk about sex, and amyl nitrate

3 and you talk about cocaine throughout the book;

4 correct?

5 A It's not throughout the book. You couldn't even

6 find this passage.

7 Q Well, I found it.

8 A Thank you.

9 Qt Did you use drugs at Studio 54?

10 A Not those drugs.

11 Q Which ones did you use?

12 A A glass of champagne.

13 Q Nothing else?

14 A No., I was a working model. I had to be up at

15 7:00 in the morning. I wanted to have a few dances

16 with my famous model friends and then go home and get

17 my beauty rest.

18 Q It says here: "Rubell closed the door and laid

19 out a fucking ounce of cocaine. He chopped up a few

20 lines and offered me a silver straw. I plunged in."

21 Correct?,

22 A] Don't remember.

23 (2) Did you write this?

24 A Pablo wrote the book.

4110 25 Q1 "There was coke and binging and purging. And I 69 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 had taught myself" -- well, you talk about doing

3 cocaine with your friends there, don't you?

4 MR. RYAN: I'm sorry to interrupt. If I

5 can just ask Mr. Mesereau. He handed me something and

6 I don't know -- what are you referring to,

7 Mr. Mesereau? What page?

8 MR. MESEREAU: 119.

9 THE COURT: It looks like it's from a

10 book; therefore, page numbers generally help when we're

11 tlalking about books.

12 BY MR. MESEREAU:

13 Q1 Well, you said you did cocaine. You said lines of

14 cocaine.

15 A. Show me.

16 I just showed you. I read it to you.

17 I didn't say I did it. He offered me and I

18 plunged in. That was like poetic license.

19 So it was another lie?

20 A Poetic license. Cocaine was everywhere in Studio

21 54, not just in this guy's office. It was everywhere

22 in New York City. It was in law offices. It was

23 behind photo studios. It was in the airport. I mean,

24 it was the '70s.

25 Q. Were you using it? 70 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 I went to rehab for it. I used it three days. I

3 swore on that.

4 Q Okay. Did you use any other drugs in the '70s?

fi

5 A No.

6 Q Just -- did you use amyl nitrate?

7 A No.

8 Q You just wrote about other people using it?

9 Av Pablo wrote that.

10 Q Okay. So all you used was cocaine; correct?

11 A Yes.

12 Q In the '80s did you start using Quaaludes?

13 A No. It was in the '70s. I tried them as a 41) 14 teenager.

15 When did you use Quaaludes?

16 A I tried them a couple times when I was living in

17 Hollywood, Florida.

18 Q In the passage that I read that you wrote about

19 your visit to Tahoe to see Mr. Cosby, you say that

20 after you left Mr. Cosby, didn't go in his room, you

21 went back and looked for a Quaalude; correct?

22 A Pablo wrote that.

23 Qc That's not true?

24 A I think we should have him here as a witness

25 because he'll tell you that it's true that he did write 71 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 it.

3 Q Well, you told the jury you went into rehab. What

4 did you go into rehab for?

5 A For cocaine.

6 Q Anything else?

7 A No.

8 Q1 What about prescription drugs?

9 A No.

10 You:talk about using Valium and things like that.

11 Is that all poetic license?

12 A Yes.

13 None of it's true?

14 No.

15 Q You didn't use Ativan either; right?

16 A, I was prescribed Ativan by Dr. Engle when I went

17 through rehab in Pasadena.

18 Q Was rehab for only illegal drugs or was it for

19 prescription drugs, too?

20 A I was taking Ambien and I got -- as a parent, I

21 got worried that I had taken it, like, more than a few

22 nights. ,I knew well enough from my training from

23 Alcoholics Anonymous and my 12 steps that I was

24 practicing that this could be a slippery slope for me.

410 25 Q2 You mentioned in your book you did two quick toots 72 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 of some dynamite Peruvian flake. What's that?

3 A It's what Pablo wrote. It's funny.

4 Qy Where is Peruvian flake, do you know?

5 A It's a code name for cocaine from Peru.

6 Q Did you ever use that?

7 A No.

8 Q; Never tasted it?

9 A No.,

10 Q ' Thi0 is all just fiction?

11 A It's funny.

12 Q Well, were you trying to sell books by showing how

13 many drugs you took?

14 A No.

15 Q Why, do you keep referencing taking drugs that you

16 now claim you didn't take?

17 A I wrote this book for a paycheck. And I also

18 wrote it to get through the abuse that I suffered as a

19 child from my dad. And I tried to write about the rape

20 that took place in Lake Tahoe.

21 Q Well, you talk about you're taking Ativan,

22 L,ithium,E'Valium?

23 A It's cathartic for me to write the book.

24 Pardon me?

25 Ay It's cathartic for me to be involved with Pablo on 73 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 a daily basis. I would tell him things and he would go

3 and type them up on the computer. I couldn't use a

4 computer. I'm computer illiterate. So he would type

5 it up and then he'd meet with me the next day and show

6 me these stories he wrote. He would go, Is this okay?

7 m like, Sure, sure. This went on for a couple

8 months, him writing these books that Judy Regan had

9 assigned the ghostwriter to write my book.

"I had another glass 10 Q`- Atone point you talk about

11 of wine, popped a lude and crawled into bed."

12 Is that something you would have done

13 during that period? 411 14 A, Who does that?

15 Q Well, you say you did it.

16 A But I didn't.

17 Qf But you didn't?

18 A, I didn't, no. You don't take a line of cocaine

19 and drugs, I assume, and go to bed.

20 Q Your talk about having a Quassia and coke hangover.

21 Did you ever have that?

22 A No.

23 Q. It's all fiction?

24 A It's all poetic license.

25 Qt You talk about popping sleeping pills. Did you do 74 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 that to excess?

3 A I took it a few -- I took it, like, during a time

4 period -- three nights in a row. And I got very upset,

5 so I spoke to Dr. Drew Pinsky at an event and I asked

6 him if he could help me with my -- I don't know the

7 legal term for it. The worst drug in history is

8 sleeping pills to get off from. To get off from, they

9 are the most difficult pills anyone can take and become

10 acidicted to. And I had read that. And DreW Pinsky

11 says, I can help you with that.

12 And with that being said, he got in

13 touch with me later on and I did the show Celebrity

14 Rehab. And they paid for me to go to rehab, and I did.

15 Apd I got off those pills, thank God. The last time I

16 took any of them was July 17th, 2010.

17 Did you have a friend named Gia Carangi?

18 A. She was a model that I worked with. She was on

19 hproin all the time.

20 Q You; say you did heroin with her; correct?

21 No. Poetic license.

22 Qc So you say it, but you didn't do it; right?

23 A I did not take heroin.

24 Q Okay. You write about her giving you some heroin

25 apd you're not sure you know it's heroin? 75 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 She always had heroin with her. Unfortunately,

3 she died of an overdose.

4 Q So other than what you've just explained, all of

5 these references to drug use are poetic license, you

6 say?

7 A That's correct.

8 And so you're telling the public that you did all

9 these drugs to sell a book; correct? Is that right?

10 A That's -- that was the deal between Judith Regan

11 and myself. She gave me three book deals.

12 Qr You also did one called Everything About Me is

13 Fake...And I'm Perfect. 41, 14 A Correct.

15 one Check, please! Dating, Mating, and 4( - And you did

16 Extricating?

17 Ai Correct.

18 Q They're the three books that you've written;

19 correct?

20 A Yes.

21 Q , Did Judith Regan tell you to exaggerate?

22 A: Of course.

23 Did she tell you to exaggerate your drug use?

24 A She, wanted me to embellish in episodic scenes that

25 would come to mind of things that I've witnessed and -- 76 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

Gia -- like, for example, Gia Carangi's name was

3 brought up because she was a working model at Elite.

4 She got all the jobs that I didn't -- that I couldn't

5 do being that she had similar ethnic -looking features.

6 And Gia then became addicted in her life to heroin and

7 she contracted AIDS and she passed away regrettably.

8 Sad. She was my friend. I did work with her.

9 the truth when you say she 4 - But you're not telling

10 gpme you something, a snort, and you didn't realize it

11 was heroin?

12 A/ No.

13 That all fake? 410 14 A, That's poetic license, Tom.

15 Q Okay. Now, you say that when you flew to Tahoe to

16 s e Mr. Cosby, you were drunk; right?

17 A Yes, I believe I wrote that.

18 Were you drunk?

19 No.1

20 Q. Well, I mean, you say --

21 A See, here's the deal. There is absolutely no way

22 "(could have been drunk all the time or how you're

23 trying to paint me to appear to have been so and still

24 do the covers of Vogue all over the world in every

25 country and to walk in famous designer fashion shows 77 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 during the day and work all night long doing the

3 editorial photographs.

4 I did catalog work. I did commercial

5 work. I did ads -- I did catalog ads, spokeswoman

6 spoke, you know, at live car shows. There is

7 absolutely no way I could appear drunk, be connected

8 with drugs or alcohol, and get and keep these clients

9 for a period of 10 years, which is a lot longer than

10 most models survive in today's day and age. No way.

11 If they smelled it on my breath, they

12 wpuldn't have hired me. If they saw it in my eyes,

13 t1ey wouldn't have hired me. It doesn't matter what I

14 say or what you're trying to insinuate in my books. It

15 doesn't matter what I say. I have the freedom of

16 speech. I can say anything I want. But today here I

17 am sworn on the Bible that I am telling you the whole

18 truth.

19 So I will tell you, yes, there's poetic

20 license for books, to sell books so I can earn a

21 paycheck to feed my children and I stand by that.

22 Well, how much of a book is fiction and how much

23 io accurate, do you think?

24 It's nonfiction. I mean -- I don't understand the

25 question. 78 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Q Well, you talk about Studio 54 which you said was

3 like a home.

4 A Were you there? I mean, everyone went.

5 THE COURT: Ma'am, just answer the

6 question.

7 THE WITNESS: Sorry.

8 BY MR. MESEREAU:

9 people Q 1 You, said: "Guys making out with guys,

10 fticking in the bathroom, drug addict girls bent over

11 the bar snorting while some sleeze life took them from

12 behind. Sex, sex, sex. And somehow, since the common

13 denominator was sex, all these crazy groups, the 411 14 druggies, the fags, the black leather set managed to

15 co -exist quite nicely. Thank you very much." And it

16 gOes on and on and on.

17 Are you exaggerating or are you telling

18 t ie truth?

19 A, It was a wild place.

20 Q1 How so?

21 Ac People were dancing, people were having sex,

22 people were doing drugs, people were drinking tea.

23 Everyone went there just to unwind after work. It was

24 a place where you could go and see people like Gore

25 Vidal and, you know, Robert DeNiro. You could see the 79 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 Prime Minister's wife, Margaret Trudeau, dancing on the

3 dance floor. People from all walks of life did go to

4 Studio 54.

5 And how often would you go?

6 A When I -- when I had some time off, I would go.

7 If I had a few hours and not working the next morning,

8 Itwould go. It was open -- I think it was open like

9 1Q:00. It went from 10:00 till 2:00.

10 Qt You talk about modeling for a designer named

11 Halston; correct?

12 A I have worked for him, yes.

13 Qf Did you work a lot for him?

14 A No.

of his parties at 15 Q . Okay. Did you ever go to any

16 his brownstone?

17 A I went to one party there.

18 Q Okay. There were lots of drugs at that party?

19 A Everywhere.

20 Q Did you partake?

21 No.. Didn't know anyone.

22 Q Now, you mentioned Attorney Robert Shapiro

23 earlier;. right?

24 A Good guy.

25 You ended up in a lawsuit with him, didn't you? 80 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 A When?

3 Q In 19 -- about 20 years ago.

4 A No.

5 Q He sued you? Robert Shapiro sued Janice Dickinson

6 for breach of contract; correct?

7 MR. RYAN: Objection, Your Honor.

8 Relevance.

9 THE WITNESS: For what?

10 THE COURT: Hold on, ma'am. There's an

11 objection. In keeping with, you know, what -- you know

12 what you: want to do. I don't.

13 MR. MESEREAU: Sure.

14 THE COURT: You're going to have to give

15 me a brief preview.

16 MR. RYAN: Can we?

17 THE COURT: You want to go that way?

18 We'll change it up so that everybody can listen over

19 there. I'm pretty sure two people are saying they

20 can't hear. So why don't you follow my direction,

21 M. Ryan, and go this way.

22 - - -

23 (Whereupon, a conference was held at

24 sidebar, not reported.)

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41/ 2 THE COURT: All right. A proffer has

3 been made. I overrule the objection. You can ask the

4 question under the limitations that I've requested that

5 you do.

6 BY MR. MESEREAU:

7 Q Robert Shapiro sued you for breach of contract in

8 July of 1997; correct?

9 A, I don't know.

10 Qt Would it refresh your recollection to show you the

11 document?

12 Yes,, please.

13 MR. MESEREAU: May I approach?

14 THE COURT: Yes.

15 (Approaching with document.)

16 THE WITNESS: You've shown me.

17 By MR. MESEREAU:

18 Q. Breach of contract?

19 A What contract? I don't know what this is.

20 THE COURT: Right now what you can't do

21 is the discussion between the two of you. He showed

22 you the document and he'll ask a question. If you

23 don't remember, that could be an answer. And then

24 you'll move forward.

25 BY MR,. MESEREAU: 82 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 You looked at that document, didn't you?

3 Yes.

4 Does it refresh your recollection that Robert

5 Shapiro sued you?

6 A No.

7 Q You don't remember?

8 A No.

9 MR. MESEREAU: May I talk to co -counsel

10 fOr a second, Your Honor?

11 THE COURT: Sure.

12 - - -

13 (Discussion off the record between

14 counsel.)

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16 MR. MESEREAU: No further questions,

17* Your Honpr.

18 THE COURT: Okay. Now we are going into

19 redirect.

20 MR. RYAN: Yes.

21 THE COURT: I just want to make sure.

22 And then recross examination.

23 MR. RYAN: Maybe he won't have any

24 questions.

25 THE COURT: I understand. Let's go to 83 1 JANICE DICKINSON - CROSS

2 redirect.

3 REDIRECT EXAMINATION

4 BY MR. RYAN:

5 Q Janice?

6 A Sir.

7 Q It's okay. How old are your kids today?

8 A. Nathan is 30, and Savannah is 24.

9 Q Are you getting compensated to be here today?

10 A No.

11 Q And your testimony here today, are you doing that

12 so that you can support your children?

13 A No. 410 14 Now, Mr. Mesereau asked you lots of questions,

15 many of them about a book that you wrote in 2002.

16 A Okay.

17 Q And that book you've said was ghostwritten by a

18 person named Pablo Fenjves?

19 A Correct.

20 Q And before we get to the information you gave us

21 when we went to meet with you and the circumstances

22 surrounding that, you had a discussion with a radio

23 host named Howard Stern in 2006.

24 Do you remember that?

25 A I do. 84 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 Q And Mr. Stern indicated to you that he had read

3 the book, was familiar with the book?

4 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Hearsay.

5 THE COURT: If you're offering it for

6 the truth of the matter asserted, it is hearsay. And

7 containing it in a question --

8 MR. RYAN: I'm --

9 THE COURT: You can certainly ask if you

10 had a conversation with Howard Stern, what did you do

11 next based on that and that would make it not hearsay.

12 MR. RYAN: Well, I'm not offering it

13 fpr L'm going to ask a different question than what

14 you just said, but if it becomes objectionable, I guess

15 we'll hear it.

16 THE COURT: I guess we'll see, but right

17 now it's hearsay.

18 BY MR. RYAN:

19 Did you tell Howard Stern in 2006 during this

20 radio interview that you had consensual sex with Bill

21 Cosby?

22 No.

23 Q Was he asking you questions implying that that

24 occurred?

25 A. He was trying to get me to admit it. He said, Did 85 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 you know Cosby? I said, yes. And he kept asking me,

3 you know -- I don't want to repeat how he phrased it.

4 I don't like the term -- the "F" word. And he would

5 say that over and over. And I was on his show several

6 times. He knows that I tell the truth. And in this

7 matter, once again, I was afraid of repercussions from

8 Cosby being a powerful man.

9 Qs Let me ask you this: What did you say in response

10 to his questions about your interactions?

11 A,. I said Cosby was a bad guy, bad man. Bad guy,

12 bad. Not bad -good, bad -bad.

13 Q: Right. Now, Mr. Mesereau asked you questions

14 about whether or not I'm going to approach you with

15 something. Two documents, actually. I'm going to hand

16 those to,you -- about whether or not -

17 MR. MESEREAU: Your Honor, I'm going to

18 object.

19 THE COURT: He hasn't done anything yet.

20 MR. MESEREAU: I don't know why he's

21 handing the documents if he didn't say what he's doing

22 wg:.th them.

23 BY MR. RYAN:

24 Okay. Can you turn those over for a second?

25 THE COURT: Turn them over so we can at 86 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 least get to the question.

3 BY MR. RYAN:

4 Q Mr. Mesereau asked you questions about whether the

5 District Attorney's Office or detectives asked you

6 questions about your 2002 book.

7 Do you remember them asking you those

8 questions?

9 A Yes.

10 Q And in response to his questions, you told this

11 jilry that you had told the District Attorney's Office

12 and the detectives about your book; is that right?

13 A I did.

14 And did you also provide the District Attorney's

15 Office with information in relation to your 2002 book?

16 A Correct.

17 Qt Andy did you provide our office documents about the

18 2p02 book?

19 A (Indicating.)

20 Right? You made reference on cross-examination to

21 the things you referred to as declarations. Did you

22 provide those to the District Attorney's Office in

23 reference to this 2002 book?

24 Ar Lisa Bloom did.

25 Q You're familiar with them though; right? 87 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 Yes, I am.

3 (Declaration of Pablo Fenjvez marked

4 Commonwealth's Exhibit C-14 for

5 identification.)

6 BY MR. RYAN:

7 Q And are you familiar with a declaration by a

8 person named Pablo Fenjves?

9 A Yes, I am.

10 Q- And is what you're holding right next to you as

11 you pick up those two documents, is C-14 a declaration

12 from Pablo Fenjves?

13 A C-14?

14 Qf Yes.

15 A Yes, this is Pablo Fenjves's declaration.

16 And you provided it, so you're familiar with it

17 and your attorney provided C-14 to the D.A.'s Office

18 when you. were questioned about the 2002 books; correct?

19 A Can you repeat the question? You're going too

20 fast.

21 I can.

22 THE COURT: And if you move over there,

23 ypur voice goes with you, so try to hang around the

24 microphone.

25 THE WITNESS: He's a pacer. 88 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 BY MR. RYAN:

3 Qil You know me too well, Janice. I'm going to try

4 and stay still for this one.

5 So, Janice, you're familiar with C-14,

6 and your attorney actually provided C-14 to the

7 District Attorney's Office when they asked you

8 questions about your 2002 book; is that right?

9 A Correct.

10 Q Okay. So C-14 is a declaration of Pablo --

11 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Hearsay.

12 THE COURT: Well, as long as you're not

13 going to say what it says, then you can frame a

14 question; which will not be evidence. But if she's

15 going to be reading from a declaration of another

16 person, it's hearsay. So please frame your questions

17 around it. I know that you're not going to

18 intentionally ask her to read this if it's hearsay.

19 MR. RYAN: Well, I am going to do that,

20 but it's not because -- because it's not hearsay. I'm

21 offering it for rehabilitation as a prior consistent

22 statement.

23 THE COURT: From who?

24 MR. RYAN: There are statements by a

25 person attributed to her in that document. 89 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT Your Honor. 2 MR. MESEREAU: Objection,

3 THE COURT: I'm going to have to deal law to 4 with that under -- you know, if you have case party, 5 that. This is obviously a statement of a third list. 6 a non -- you know, I saw this name on the witness

7 MR. RYAN: Yes. it to the 8 THE COURT: Saw it. We read

9 jury.

10 MR. RYAN: Yes.

11 THE COURT: So that means that person

12 will testify. When that person testifies, it's no

13 longer hearsay because that person is here. 411 14 MR. RYAN: Okay. of 15 THE COURT: So, you know, in terms

16 saying that you know, I thought you were just going

17 to ask to say that when I gave statements to the

18 District Attorney's Office, I also provided them with of 19 things that indicate that can support my claim are so 20 ghostwriting or poetic license. That's where we

21 far.

22 MR. RYAN: Okay.

23 By MR. RYAN: We know who 24 Q. I'm going to try it this way, Janice.

25 Pablo Fepjves is; correct? 90 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Hearsay.

3 THE WITNESS: Yes.

4 THE COURT: All he asked right now is do

5 you know Pablo Fenjves.

6 MR. RYAN: Fenjvez.

7 THE COURT: I apologize for the name.

8 THE WITNESS: Hard name.

9 THE COURT: Got it.

10 BY MR. RYAN:

11 Q, So, Janice --

12 A, Sir?

13 Q -- did you tell Pablo Fenjves - 410 14 MR. MESEREAU: Objection.

15 THE COURT: Now he's going to ask for --

16 MR. MESEREAU: He's leading. It's his

17 witness.

18 THE COURT: I know who it is. I'm very

19 clear. So at this stage he's going to ask a question,

20 what, if anything, did you say to Pablo Fenjves about

21 the book. That might be something because that's her

22 statement of which she's been saying here. And he's

23 saying it's consistent. And then he'll obviously be

24 putting Mr. Fenjves on to try and go -- to say did he

25 hear it.! But right now it's her statement, obviously 90 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Hearsay.

3 THE WITNESS: Tes.

4 THE COURT: All he asked right now is do

5 you know Pablo Fenjves.

6 MR. RYAN: Fenjvez.

7 THE COURT: I apologize for the name.

8 THE WITNESS: Hard name.

9 THE COURT: Got it.

10 BY MR. RYAN:

11 So, Janice --

12 Sir?

13 -- did you tell Pablo Fenjves -

14 MR. MESEREAU: Objection.

15 THE COURT: Now he's going to ask for --

16 MR. MESEREAU: He's leading. It's his

17 witness.

18 THE COURT: I know who it is. I'm very

19 clear. So at this stage he's going to ask a question,

20 what, if anything, did you say to Pablo Fenjves about

21 the book. That might be something because that's her

22 statement of which she's been saying here. And he's

23 saying it's consistent. And then he'll obviously be

24 putting Mr. Fenjves on to try and go -- to say did he

25 hear it. But right now it's her statement, obviously 91 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 out of court, but at this stage for the purpose of

3 making a statement when she was interviewed. That's my

4 understanding. If you're going somewhere else,

5 Mr. Ryan, don't.

6 MR. RYAN: I'm not.

7 THE COURT: Don't read it, but ask her

8 she recalls making certain statements.

9 MR. RYAN: I'm just holding it.

10 B MR. RYAN:

11 What did you tell Pablo Fenjves about your

12 experiences with Bill Cosby in 1982?

13 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Hearsay. t 14 THE WITNESS: I was very upset.

15 THE COURT: Overruled.

16 THE WITNESS: Can I talk?

17 THE COURT: You may.

18 THE WITNESS: Thank you.

19 THE COURT: This is redirect on

20 something that you cross-examined her about. And now

21 she's going to give what I think is a consistent

22 statement at least, or he wouldn't be asking it, with

23 what her testimony was. And therefore, I'm going to

24 permit it.

25 THE WITNESS: What's the question? 92 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

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3 BY MR. RYAN:

4 Q Sure. What did you tell Pablo Fenjves about what

5 Bill Cosby did to you in 1982?

6 A I told Bill Cosby -- I told Pablo Fenjves, the

7 ghostwriter of my memoir No Lifeguard On Duty, the

8 entire horrific, catastrophic, traumatic rape that took

9 place in 1982 in Lake Tahoe in Cosby's hotel room. I

10 told him this. I told Judith Regan this. I told

11 people what happened to me.

a 12 ( And he wrote -- Pablo wrote sanitized

13 version and even asked to come to speak for himself to 411 14 back up my story. But I did explain to him I got raped

15 i 1982 by that man, Bill Cosby.

16 You used the words "poetic license" when

17 describing things that Mr. Fenjves did with the book;

18 is that true?

19 A( He likes yes, I have. He likes to use the word

20 sanitized version, but -

21 41 Have you ever heard him use the words "dramatic

22 liberties" to describe things that he changed about

23 your life story?

24 A Yes,

41/ 25 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading. 93 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

411 2 Move to strike.

3 THE COURT: You are leading it, but I'm

4 going to permit it because it's a word that has been

5 used, and now there might be another word used. And

6 hopefully we are actually going to hear from Mr.

7 Fenjves himself. But this is about her statement, so I

8 overrule that objection.

9 BY MR. RYAN:

10 Qc Have you ever heard him use the words "dramatic

11 4bertiep" to describe changes he made to your story?

12 MR. MESEREAU: Objection.

13 THE WITNESS: Yes.

14 THE COURT: Overruled.

15 BY MR. RYAN:

16 Q, Were you visibly distraught when you told

17 Mr. Fenjyes the story?

18 Yes, I was a wreck.

19 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading.

20 THE COURT: Overruled.

21 BY MR. RYAN:

22 Q Is the reason that your account was not included

23 order to avoid a lawsuit?

24 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading.

25 THE WITNESS: Yes. 94 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 THE COURT: She testified to that on

3 direct, so I'm going to permit the question. Right now

4 jtist keep it focused and move on. Overruled.

5 BY MR. RYAN:

6 Q What was your emotional state when you told this?

7 Were you upset?

8 A I was beyond upset. I had a nervous breakdown

9 upset.

10 Is a declaration in California subject to the

11 penalties of perjury?

12 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading and

13 asks for a legal conclusion.

14 THE COURT: Yeah. At this stage I'm not

15 gping to -- she is not a lawyer nor is she going to

16 make this ruling. So sustained.

17 THE WITNESS: I don't know.

18 MR. RYAN: She doesn't know.

19 (Declaration of Judith Regan marked

20 Commonwealth's Exhibit C-15 for

21 identification.)

22 ii3,y MR. RYAN:

23 Now, that was C-14. You also provided C-15 to the

24 District Attorney's Office?

25 I did. 95 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 And C-15 is entitled Declaration of Judith Regan?

3 Correct.

4 Q And did you tell Judith Regan what Bill Cosby did

5 to you in 1982?

6 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading.

7 THE WITNESS: Yes.

8 MR. MESEREAU: Move to strike.

9 MR. RYAN: It's not leading. I asked

10 did she or did she not. She answered.

11 THE COURT: Overruled.

12 BY MR. RYAN:

13 Q Did you fight with Ms. Regan about the decision

14 not to include this story?

15 A I did.

16 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading.

17 THE WITNESS: I did, and she

18 THE COURT: Overruled.

19 THE WITNESS: I did, and she told me

20 that the legal department --

21 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Hearsay.

22 THE COURT: You cannot say what -- we're

23 dancing on the head of a pin here and I've got to make

24 these calls.

25 THE WITNESS: I'm answering his 96 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 question.

3 THE COURT: So right now you can't say

4 what someone else said. Maybe she will be a witness in

5 this case as well. I don't know. You cannot say what

6 somebody else said.

7 BY MR. RYAN:

8 Qt Were you very passionate in fighting to include

9 this in the book?

10 Ai Yes.

11 Q1 Did you very much want to include the rape by Mr.

12 Cosby in the book?

13 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading. 411 14 THE COURT: That's leading because it

15 has a conclusion in there at this stage. Right now he

16 ids not on trial for whatever that conduct was, so

17 that's leading by including that in there.

18 If you want to ask it again, you can.

19 BY MR. RYAN:

20 Q Did, you want this included in the book?

21 A Absolutely, yes.

22 MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading.

23 THE COURT: Overruled.

24 MR. RYAN: That's all I have, Your

25 Honor. Thank you. 97 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 MR. MESEREAU: No further questions,

3 Your Honor.

4 THE COURT: I just need to make sure I

5 know. Was C-11, 12 and 13 admitted?

6 MR. RYAN: Yes.

7 THE COURT: And ma'am, I only have one

8 question. I'll permit both of them. When were these

9 taken?

10 THE WITNESS: The night of the rape in

11 Lake Tahoe, 1982.

12 THE COURT: Okay. I was unclear as to

13 that without your answer because, again, it's 411 14 conduct -- I just was unclear as to when they were

15 taken.

16 So whatever your questions you may have

17 around there, I just -- okay. Do you have any

18 questions further? Both of you can ask questions based

19 upon the one question of the Court.

20 MR. MESEREAU: No, Your Honor.

21 MR. RYAN: No.

22 THE COURT: Thank you very much, ma'am.

23 You may step down.

24 MR. MESEREAU: I'd like her subject to

25 rpcall, please. 98 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

2 THE WITNESS: What's that mean?

3 THE COURT: Subject to recall means they

4 can call you as a witness if they wish. So you're

5 released from the District Attorney's subpoena. You

6 are subject -- they can --

7 THE WITNESS: But I'm leaving town

8 tomorrow.

9 THE COURT: I can't tell you what to do.

10 YQu are free to leave this courtroom, free to go.

11 They're just saying -- they're advising you you may be

12 subject to their recall at some time. I know you're

13 looking for --

14 THE WITNESS: How do I answer that?

15 THE COURT: You do not have to answer

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17 THE WITNESS: I've never done this.

18 THE COURT: It's my obligation to advise

19 ypu.

20 THE WITNESS: I think you do great.

21 THE COURT: They're just saying that

22 they could have someone contact you, make arrangements,

23 pay your expenses to come back and testify if and when

24 they're presenting evidence. i 25 THE WITNESS: I swear Law & Order is my 99 1 JANICE DICKINSON - REDIRECT

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