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Department of Veterans Affairs 1 DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS 2 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Department of Veterans Affairs 10 Advisory Committee on Former Prisoners of War 11 Biannual Meeting, Monday, November 17, 2014 12 SpringHill Suites by Marriott 13 1800 Yale Avenue, Seattle, Washington 14 15 16 17 18 19 Reported by: Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter CCR No. 2266 20 State of Washington 21 Roger G. Flygare & Associates, Inc. Professional Court Reporters, 22 Videographers & Legal Transcriptionists 1715 South 324th Place, Suite 250 23 Federal Way, Washington 98003 (800) 574-0414 - main 24 www.flygare.com - scheduling [email protected] - email 25 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: 2 Thomas M. McNish, MD, MHP, FPOW Committee Chairman 3 San Antonio, Texas FPOW Vietnam 4 5 Michael R. Ambrose, MD, MPH, FAAFP Former Director, Robert E. Mitchell Center 6 Mobile, Alabama 7 Hal Kushner, MD, FACS, COL (ret) US Army 8 Daytona Beach, Florida FPOW Vietnam 9 10 Tom Hanton, President, NAM POWS Mount Pleasant, South Carolina 11 FPOW Vietnam 12 Shoshana Johnson 13 State of Texas FPOW Operation Iraqi Freedom 14 15 Norman Bussel, National Service Officers Montrose, Virginia 16 FPOW World War II 17 The Rev. Dr. Robert G. Certain 18 Chaplain, Colonel, USAFR (Retired) FPOW Vietnam 19 20 Robert W. Fletcher Department of Veteran Affairs 21 Advisory Committee on Former POWs Ann Arbor, Michigan 22 FPOW Korea 23 Eric R. Robinson, Analyst, Interagency Data Sharing 24 Designated Federal Officer Washington, D.C. 25 [Page 2] Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter, # 2266 FLYGARE & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1-800-574-0414 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 OTHER APPEARANCES ON RECORD: 2 Jeffrey "Boomer" Moragne, Director 3 US Department of Veterans Affairs Office of the Secretary 4 Advisory Committee Management Office 5 Dave McLenachen, Director 6 Pension & Fiduciary Service 7 Robert L. Kroft, Ed.D. 8 EES Learning Consultant US Department of Veterans Affairs 9 Veterans Health Administration Employee Education System 10 11 Chad J. Majiros, Associate Director US Department of Veterans Affairs 12 Veterans Health Administration Employee Education System 13 14 Patricia Benker Volunteer National Service Office 15 American Ex-POWs Organization 16 Leslie Williams 17 Program Manager Veterans Benefits Assistance Service 18 19 Stacey Pollack, Psychologist Veterans Administration Central Office 20 Mental Health Services 21 Kristie Short 22 Project Manager Veterans Health Administration 23 24 Jocelyn Moses Chief of Procedure 25 Veterans Benefits Assistance Compensation Service [Page 3] Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter, # 2266 FLYGARE & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1-800-574-0414 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 BE IT REMEMBERED that the Department of 2 Veterans Affairs Advisory Committee on Former Prisoners of 3 War Biannual Meeting (Day 1) was held on Monday, November 4 17, 2014, at the hour of 8:30 a.m., at Seattle, Washington, 5 reported and transcribed by Catherine E. Black, Certified 6 Court Reporter, in and for the State of Washington, residing 7 at Tacoma, Washington; 8 Whereupon, the following proceedings were had, 9 to wit: 10 * * * * * 11 DR. McNISH: Good morning, guys. 12 AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Good morning. 13 DR. McNISH: All right. Well, we have -- we've 14 got nine of our twelve here. Has anyone heard from Rhonda? 15 The last I knew, she was coming. 16 MR. ROBINSON: She was coming, but I have not 17 heard. 18 DR. McNISH: Yeah, and that's the last I knew. So 19 I imagine that she will be here. It's not uncommon for her 20 to have travel issues to the meeting. But she usually shows 21 up when she says she will. 22 I would like to start by pointing out that the reason we 23 are here instead of somewhere else is to recognize the 24 Seattle group for the -- to recognize the Seattle group for 25 the outstanding service they have provided to the POW [Page 4] Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter, # 2266 FLYGARE & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1-800-574-0414 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 community, particularly Dr. Orsborn, but also the local 2 area. And we may -- who knows? When we meet tomorrow with 3 the local Former POW group, we may hear something different 4 from them. 5 But certainly our perception, for years, has been that 6 Seattle is one of the exemplary locations as far as the way 7 that they handle the Former POW population. So that's why 8 we're here. 9 Dr. Orsborn had surgery recently. I don't know how 10 recently. In the past couple weeks. He is officially on 11 medical leave. But it's my understanding that he is 12 planning to meet with us at the hospital this afternoon when 13 we go. So that's a good thing. 14 And Mike has, as a service to this Committee, has 15 prepared a very nice shadowbox with the POW ribbon. I'll 16 pass it around. So far, Mike's out sixty bucks for it. I 17 hope that the Committee will be willing to chip in. 18 MR. FLETCHER: Oh, yeah. 19 DR. McNISH: A few bucks each or maybe even ten 20 bucks a piece to pay for it so it's not too bad. So that's 21 why we're here. 22 There are several things that I want us to pay close 23 attention to and try to resolve some concerns, particularly 24 about the responsiveness of Central Office to our requests, 25 plans, proposals, suggestions. [Page 5] Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter, # 2266 FLYGARE & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1-800-574-0414 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 Our unsigned, unofficial response to our May of 2013 2 meeting is sitting in front of each of you. 3 MR. FLETCHER: You're kidding. 4 DR. McNISH: No, sir. I also understand that, and 5 we can cut them some slack, I guess, because they've gone 6 through three Secretaries, or two Secretaries and a 7 Secretary, an interim Secretary, in the past few months up 8 at Central Office. But it's my understanding that either 9 our May report, which was sent to the Secretary -- and I 10 have a copy of it here. If we need to make copies of it, 11 including the cover letter, which was due to the Honorable 12 Sloan Gibson, Acting Secretary. 13 But it's my understanding that the tasking has never 14 come down from the Secretary's office to our Designated 15 Federal Officer, who is then, as I understand the way the 16 bureaucracy works, is supposed to distribute that out to get 17 responses to the different recommendations. 18 So those things are a major concern to us, things that 19 we will hopefully deal with over the time of this meeting, 20 and then set up a meeting at Central Office next spring. 21 That being said, on a lighter note, it's my privilege to 22 recognize our new Committee member who is -- it's her first 23 meeting with us and much appreciated. Shoshana, welcome. 24 MS. JOHNSON: Thank you. 25 DR. McNISH: Thank you for joining us and we look [Page 6] Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter, # 2266 FLYGARE & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1-800-574-0414 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 forward to having you as part of this team. And you will 2 find, unfortunately, it's not a party committee like some of 3 them. But it's a working committee. We try to get 4 something done. 5 As you see, we don't always pick the best weather spots 6 for our meetings. We try to pick places where we can do the 7 most good. 8 So that being said, the other introduction that I would 9 make at this point is Mr. Eric Robinson, who is our new 10 Designated Federal Officer, having replaced Pam. So you've 11 got your work cut out for you, Eric. But if you have some 12 things you'd like to say to the group. 13 MR. ROBINSON: Real quick, I just want to 14 introduce myself again. My name is Eric Robinson, the new 15 DFO for the FPOW Committee. I've been with the VA for about 16 fourteen years. I'm also an Army veteran. And I'm looking 17 forward to working again with you all. A great group of 18 guys here to work with. 19 And like Dr. McNish said, it's a challenge. But I'm 20 looking forward to the challenges here. 21 Just a theme for today, I didn't realize until yesterday 22 that this hotel does not serve lunch. So I did find a place 23 about five minutes away to walk to get lunch. We have menus 24 at the back there on the table. 25 But if anyone is not able to make the walk to get the [Page 7] Catherine E. Black, Certified Court Reporter, # 2266 FLYGARE & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1-800-574-0414 ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014 1 lunch, I will be more than happy to take your order and 2 bring the lunch back to them if possible, any Committee 3 members here. 4 With that being said, I just want to introduce Mr. Dave 5 McLenachen from Pension & Fiduciary.
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