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Vol. 151 WASHINGTON, TUESDAY, JUNE 21, 2005 No. 83 House of Representatives The House met at 9 a.m. and was I would like to read an e-mail that there has never been a worse time for called to order by the Speaker pro tem- one of my staffers received at the end Congress to be part of a campaign pore (Miss MCMORRIS). of last week from a friend of hers cur- against public broadcasting. We formed f rently serving in Iraq. The soldier says: the Public Broadcasting Caucus 5 years ‘‘I know there are growing doubts, ago here on Capitol Hill to help pro- DESIGNATION OF SPEAKER PRO questions and concerns by many re- mote the exchange of ideas sur- TEMPORE garding our presence here and how long rounding public broadcasting, to help The SPEAKER pro tempore laid be- we should stay. For what it is worth, equip staff and Members of Congress to fore the House the following commu- the attachment hopefully tells you deal with the issues that surround that nication from the Speaker: why we are trying to make a positive important service. difference in this country’s future.’’ There are complexities in areas of le- WASHINGTON, DC, This is the attachment, Madam June 21, 2005. gitimate disagreement and technical I hereby appoint the Honorable CATHY Speaker, and a picture truly is worth matters, make no mistake about it, MCMORRIS to act as Speaker pro tempore on 1,000 words. and our caucus is a great platform for this day. The soldier went on to say in ending Congress to explore these items and to J. DENNIS HASTERT, his e-mail: ‘‘I hope to head home in 80 be heard by the various public broad- Speaker of the House of Representatives. days with a feeling that I contributed casting constituencies, their boards f something and made this world a bet- and staff. ter place for these guys.’’ Cutting funding, especially the pro- MORNING HOUR DEBATES Madam Speaker, any date for with- posals from the subcommittee, are the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- drawal would be arbitrary. We must worst approach in dealing with public allow our plan to go forward and not ant to the order of the House of Janu- broadcasting. President Bush has re- abandon it halfway through. This is ary 4, 2005, the Chair will now recog- quested over $413 million in his budget not just about their future, it is about nize Members from lists submitted by for fiscal year 2006. The subcommittee the future of all of us. Let us not talk the majority and minority leaders for has recommended that that be slashed about an exit strategy; let us talk morning hour debates. The Chair will to $300 million, cutting by almost 2⁄5, about victory. alternate recognition between the par- this year’s funding for the Corporation ties, with each party limited to not to f for Public Broadcasting and elimi- exceed 25 minutes, and each Member, CONTINUING FUNDING OF PUBLIC nating entirely the President’s $23 mil- except the majority leader, the minor- BROADCASTING lion request for Ready-To-Learn. ity leader, or the minority whip, lim- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Madam Speaker, these are as Draco- ited to not to exceed 5 minutes, but in ant to the order of the House of Janu- nian as they are unjustified. Every no event shall debate extend beyond ary 4, 2005, the gentleman from Oregon week, 82 million people demonstrate 9:50 a.m. (Mr. BLUMENAUER) is recognized during the worth of public broadcasting by The Chair recognizes the gentleman morning hour debates for 5 minutes. viewing public television and over 30 from South Carolina (Mr. BARRETT) for Mr. BLUMENAUER. Madam Speaker, million people a week listen to NPR. 2 minutes. as we watch the ebb and flow here in But the cuts are not only cutting at f Washington, DC, the controversies, the the fabric of the programming; they complexities, there has never been a will devastate small rural markets GOING FORWARD TO VICTORY IN more important time for the thought- that are hard to serve without the IRAQ provoking service that is supplied by extra resources provided by the Federal Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina. Public Broadcasting. The educational, Government. Larger metropolitan Madam Speaker, we have been talking cultural and community awareness, to- areas will be hurt as well. The area a lot about Iraq, and a lot of people gether with the politics and policy for- that I represent in Oregon will suffer have different ideas and different mats, form the framework for citizens about a 25 percent cut, but ultimately thoughts about what we are doing over to cope with the myriad of challenges they will still have some service. In there. In recent days and weeks, some and demands of today’s modern living, many small rural areas, public broad- have suggested we need a specific much as we are struggling with them casting, which is expensive to provide, timeline or date that indicates when here in Washington, DC. is likely to disappear altogether, be- our troops will begin to withdraw from If there has never been a more impor- cause the sparsely populated commu- Iraq. tant time for public broadcasting, nities are not able to make up the gap.

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VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.000 H21PT1 H4806 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 The good news is that the public out- PRAYER tional leaders compare their actions to cry is being heard. Already the full The Chaplain, the Reverend Daniel P. those of the Nazis. That kind of rhet- committee has voted to reverse its de- Coughlin, offered the following prayer: oric incites our enemies and hinders cision to completely eliminate the ad- Lord God, Your love is consistent and our efforts in the war on terror. vanced funding for fiscal year 2008. deep. You must have a way of remain- I challenge every Democratic leader That reversal is an important step to ing in love with us, even when we ne- to denounce these ridiculous compari- provide certainty and continuity, to glect Your presence or disobey Your sons. Show our enemies that we are give a hint of stability for Public commands. Otherwise, how could You united in our actions against terror, Broadcasting and keeping our commit- forgive us so readily and always hope and show our troops that we honor ments. for our deeper conversion of heart. their service. There will be an amendment to re- Be present to the Members of the f verse the $100 million rescission for fis- House of Representatives and all who CONGRATULATING SECRETARY OF cal 2006, and I strongly support that ef- work for this noble institution today. fort. In the meantime, I would urge my STATE CONDOLEEZA RICE FOR Hold out a strong hand to those who STANDING UP FOR DEMOCRACY colleagues to become involved with the are weak or fainthearted. Be patient (Mr. EMANUEL asked and was given public broadcasting issues, to join over with the bold and the arrogant. permission to address the House for 1 100 other Members of Congress who are By Your Spirit, enable all to be pa- minute.) members of the Public Broadcasting tient, forgiving, and understanding to Mr. EMANUEL. Madam Speaker, I Caucus and engage in its activities. It one another so they may be ready to would like to congratulate Secretary of is important to show the same bipar- receive the same gracious gifts from State Condoleezza Rice for standing up tisan support for public broadcasting You in the same measure they have for democratic principle, for finally as we have in other controversial mat- treated others. saying what needed to be said. During ters in recent weeks. The American You alone are the lasting judge of all, a speech in Cairo yesterday, Secretary public deserves no less. and the full measure of goodness to Rice criticized Middle East leaders for f which no other can be compared, for failing to encourage democracy. You are Lord, both now and forever. RECOGNIZING THE POSITIVE My colleagues in this Chamber know Amen. IMPLICATIONS OF CAFTA well that when I disagree with this ad- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- f ministration, I let my opinion be ant to the order of the House of Janu- THE JOURNAL known. I disagree with their proposals ary 4, 2005, the gentlewoman from Flor- for Social Security, their stewardship ida (Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN) is recognized The SPEAKER pro tempore. The of the economy, their plan for the Iraq during morning hour debates for 1 Chair has examined the Journal of the war and occupation, and how they minute. last day’s proceedings and announces treat critics. Yet, on advocating Mid- Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Madam Speak- to the House his approval thereof. East Democracy, I do not disagree. I er, it is critical for us to recognize the Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- agree with the Secretary of State and positive, far-reaching implications of nal stands approved. her comments. CAFTA. f Unfortunately, when it comes to our CAFTA is not solely about trade, it is allies in the Middle East, America too PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE about lives. It is about promoting U.S. often turns a blind eye to their failings national security objectives in our own The SPEAKER pro tempore. Will the of leadership. We rightfully denounce backyard. By strengthening our allies, gentleman from New York (Mr. countries with repressive regimes like our neighboring countries, we are help- MCNULTY) come forward and lead the those in Iran and Syria, but others ing to strengthen our own efforts to House in the Pledge of Allegiance. such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia receive fight the scourge of terrorism. Free Mr. MCNULTY led the Pledge of Alle- a pass. markets and economic development giance as follows: Yesterday, Secretary Rice spoke up are the best weapons against tyranny, I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the on behalf of America; she represented against poverty and against disease. United States of America, and to the Repub- the best of American ideals and our CAFTA will promote democratic gov- lic for which it stands, one nation under God, steadfast belief in basic human rights ernance, thus advancing stability and indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. and democracy. This will serve Amer- consolidating freely-elected govern- f ica well as we battle for the hearts and ments who are allies in the war against minds of the Muslim world. HONORING THE SERVICE OF OUR drugs and the War on Terror. Failure Madam Speaker, I do not often agree TROOPS to pass CAFTA in Congress will cripple with this administration, but I know a our efforts to freeze out narco-terrorist (Mrs. MILLER of Michigan asked and good thing when I see it. When it gangs and others who threaten our na- was given permission to address the comes to democracy and all that comes tional security. House for 1 minute and to revise and with democracy, no one gets a pass. Madam Speaker, I encourage my col- extend her remarks.) f leagues to support CAFTA. A vote for Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. Madam CAFTA is a vote for our U.S. national Speaker, over 9 million innocent LEAVE A GOOD LEGACY: STOP security interests. human beings were killed in the Nazi CLONING NOW f death camps. Over 3 million were killed (Mr. PITTS asked and was given per- in the Soviet gulags under Joseph Sta- mission to address the House for 1 RECESS lin. Over 1.5 million were killed by the minute and to revise and extend his re- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot in Cam- marks.) ant to clause 12(a) of rule I, the Chair bodia. Mr. PITTS. Madam Speaker, every declares the House in recess until 10 And how many have been killed at Member of this body is mindful of his a.m. Guantanamo Bay? Zero. or her legacy, and that is good. Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 9 min- But that has not stopped a Demo- There is an issue facing this Nation utes a.m.), the House stood in recess cratic leader, a Democratic Senator, that should cause us all to consider until 10 a.m. and the Democratic Party from draw- that legacy carefully. The issue is f ing parallels between what is hap- human cloning, and it is closer to re- b 1000 pening in Guantanamo and the horrors ality than we think. We learned that of Hitler or Stalin and Pol Pot. from Korean scientists last month, but AFTER RECESS That message belies the suffering of we have the ability to stop it here in The recess having expired, the House the victims of those terrible atrocities. America before it is too late. was called to order by the Speaker pro That message discourages our brave So Members of this body should ask tempore (Mrs. BIGGERT) at 10 a.m. men and women in uniform, when na- themselves, Do you want your legacy

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.042 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4807 to be that we stood by as scientists have taken poetic license with what- Mr. BUTTERFIELD. Madam Speak- started cloning human beings in Amer- ever document he has failed to produce er, these attacks against the gentle- ica? Members leaving this body after as evidence of his allegations. woman from California (Leader PELOSI) next year should ask, Do you want to The brave men and women of Amer- and Senator DURBIN are nothing more tell your grandkids some day that you ica’s military put their lives on the than an attempt by the congressional had a chance to act to stop cloning but line each day to meet the demands of Republicans to divert attention away did nothing? Gitmo’s prisoners. These al Qaeda and from the war in Iraq to comments If we do nothing, Madam Speaker, Taliban detainees are being treated made by two of our Democratic col- cloning will come, and this Congress consistent with the principles of the leagues. will be judged not by job numbers or a Geneva Conventions and, most impor- Republicans know that the war in national energy plan or highway dol- tantly, yet seemingly overlooked by Iraq is not going well right now. They lars, but by our failure to stop human some Democrats, consistent with mili- have an administration that is clearly cloning. I do not want that on my con- tary necessity. not leveling with the American people. science; no one does, but our lack of ac- Intelligence gained at Gitmo has and Earlier this month, Vice President tion will make us responsible for its ar- will continue to prevent terrorist at- CHENEY told a national audience that rival. tacks and help save American lives. I the insurgency in Iraq was in its last Let us leave a good legacy, a legacy am hopeful that certain Democratic throes. Well, we all know that is not that guards the uniqueness of life. Let Senators will quit being a part of the the case. us act to stop human cloning. problem and start being part of the so- I think Washington columnist Rich- ard Cohen got it right this morning f lution. Because of Gitmo, the U.S. is learning orga- when he wrote that these partisan at- UNDERMINING OF AMERICAN nizational structure of terrorist groups, the ex- tacks are the latest in a series of at- VALUES tent of terrorist presence in the world, Al tacks by Washington Republicans to si- (Ms. SCHAKOWSKY asked and was Qaeda’s pursuit of WMDs, methods of recruit- lence the opposing views. Cohen wrote, given permission to address the House ment and location of centers, terrorist skill- ‘‘The contempt the Bush administra- for 1 minute.) sets, and how seemingly legitimate financial tion has shown for world opinion and Ms. SCHAKOWSKY. Madam Speaker, operations are used to disguise and fund ter- international law, not to mention the Bush administration and Repub- rorist operations. American traditions of jurisprudence, is costing us plenty. We are not the So- lican leaders are engaged in a pathetic f attempt to make Senator DICK DUR- viet Union, and we are not Nazi Ger- BIN’S condemnation of the use of tor- GUANTANAMO BAY many, and DICK DURBIN did not intend ture at Guantanamo Bay an issue. (Mr. PRICE of Georgia asked and was to say we are. His detractors have to As a result of the revelations of con- given permission to address the House know that. Their intention, however, is ditions at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, for 1 minute.) not to answer criticism, but to silence the Bagram Prison in Afghanistan, the Mr. PRICE of Georgia. Madam a critic.’’ Republicans owe the American people, Speaker, recent comments alleging Democrats will not be silenced. our soldiers, and veterans an apology mistreatment of prisoners at Guanta- f for undermining American values such namo are not only insulting, they are ONE WEEK LATER AND STILL NO as the rule of law, for putting our wrong. APOLOGY troops at greater risk around the The 545 prisoners being interrogated (Mr. WILSON of South Carolina world, and for cutting veterans health at Guantanamo are properly housed asked and was given permission to ad- benefits when they come home, and and fed, they receive medical care, and dress the House for 1 minute and to re- failing to provide our troops the equip- have their religious needs met. vise and extend his remarks.) ment they need to protect themselves A U.S. Senator made statements last Mr. WILSON of South Carolina. on the battlefield. week that were clearly imprudent and Madam Speaker, the people of Illinois Clearly the Republicans are reading unwise, comparing treatment of de- and the United States are rightfully the polls and watching their approval tainees to acts of genocide and repres- concerned about the recent smear and as well as the approval for the mis- sion. Millions of people died in the slander made by Democrat Whip Sen- guided war plummet. So in a desperate camp cited by the Senator, and no one ator DICK DURBIN. attempt to shift the blame, they want has died at Guantanamo. While Amer- After Democrat Whip DURBIN likened to shoot the messenger. ican troops are busy attacking and de- U.S. troops to murderous dictators, Everyone knows what Senator DUR- feating terrorism, our tax dollars are columnist John Kass of the Chicago BIN meant, and he was right. The providing Korans, prayer rugs, and Tribune called on Senator DURBIN to United States of America stands for healthy meals to the terrorist pris- apologize to the Nation for his irre- the rule of law, not for torture. It is oners at Guantanamo. It is not Pol Pot sponsible and dangerous comments. this administration and the Republican at Guantanamo, it is pot roast. To pur- Kass wrote, ‘‘Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot leaders, certainly not our soldiers and port that there is a moral equivalency murdered roughly 50 million people. At not Senator DURBIN, who has tarnished between the acts of dictatorial mad- Guantanamo, suspected terrorists have the image of our great country. men of the 20th century and the treat- been made uncomfortable, including a f ment of detainees at Guantanamo does minion of Osama bin Laden’s, but I a disservice to history, to our national haven’t heard of anyone being killed THE REAL GUANTANAMO BAY honor, and to each member of our mili- there. We’re at war, Senator.’’ (Ms. FOXX asked and was given per- tary who risk their lives every day pre- The people of Illinois deserve a Sen- mission to address the House for 1 serving the privileges we enjoy. ator who accurately represents their minute.) I call on the Senator to talk to the strong appreciation for the men and Ms. FOXX. Madam Speaker, I rise guards at Guantanamo and get the women who bravely serve our country today in response to the ill-timed and facts straight. Then he should apolo- at home and abroad. Democrat Whip ill-conceived remarks by the Demo- gize to them, to the rest of our sol- DURBIN made his reckless comments al- cratic Senator. The Senator’s deplor- diers, and to the American people. most a week ago, and he has still not able comparison of American service- f apologized for his comments. As the men and women at Guantanamo Bay to second ranking Democrat in the U.S. REPUBLICANS ATTEMPT TO DI- Nazi Soviet gulags and to Pol Pot are Senate, DURBIN should take responsi- injurious to our military and provide a VERT ATTENTION AWAY FROM bility for his comments and imme- propaganda victory to our enemy. WAR IN IRAQ diately apologize to the U.S. troops and Sadly, the words of this United (Mr. BUTTERFIELD asked and was American families. I am grateful my States Senator now serve to give aid given permission to address the House son served in Iraq. and comfort to Islamic terrorists. The for 1 minute and to revise and extend In conclusion, God bless our troops, senior Senator from Illinois seems to his remarks.) and we will never forget September 11.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:01 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.005 H21PT1 H4808 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER and Afghanistan, what are they eating? As Senator DURBIN said, if you have PRO TEMPORE They are eating C-rations out of cans. read these without knowing the coun- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The We know that the prisoners in Guanta- try, you would be horrified because Chair must remind Members that re- namo Bay have actually gained weight. these are the practices that are associ- It sounds like the characterizations marks in debate may not engage in ated with dictatorships and countries to this and Nazi prisoner of war camps personalities towards Senators. without the rule of law and countries are irresponsible. So I invite the good of repression. The fact of the matter is, f Senator to go with me to Guantanamo this administration should have an NOW IS THE TIME TO ENACT Bay, and let us GITMO information independent investigation of the treat- HUMAN CLONING BAN about his place and let us go down and ment of prisoners in Afghanistan and check it out firsthand before more Guantanamo Bay. They should do it (Mr. PENCE asked and was given per- comments are made. immediately so that we do not con- mission to address the House for 1 Meanwhile, apologies need to be tinue to have these incidents become minute and to revise and extend his re- made to American troops overseas. magnets for the recruitment of the in- marks.) f surgents. Mr. PENCE. Madam Speaker, human If somebody is worried about our cloning is coming. Despite ominous de- GITMO troops, maybe the Republicans and the velopments in South Korea and in lab- (Mrs. BLACKBURN asked and was President could apologize for sending oratories across the land, last week, given permission to address the House them into battle without body armor, the House Committee on Appropria- for 1 minute and to revise and extend for sending them into battle without tions rejected, by a narrow margin, a her remarks.) sufficient numbers to protect them, to thoughtful amendment authored by the Mrs. BLACKBURN. Madam Speaker, send them in battle without properly gentleman from Florida (Mr. WELDON). over the past week, we have watched as armed Humvees, because that is what The Weldon cloning amendment would those across the aisle, led by Minority causes parents to grieve for the loss of essentially prohibit any entity, institu- Leader PELOSI and Senator DURBIN, their lives. tion, private or public, from receiving made comments regarding our troops, NIH funds if that entity engages in our war on terror, and our operations f human cloning for research or repro- at Guantanamo Bay. Apparently, to some in this body, America can do ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER ductive purposes. PRO TEMPORE While that amendment failed, human nothing right. cloning continues to advance, and the But I want Americans to remember The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. breakthrough in this unethical and that months ago, these people who are BIGGERT). Pursuant to clause 8 of rule morally questionable science is around now calling Iraq and the war on terror XX, the Chair will postpone further the corner. a disaster were declaring that the elec- proceedings today on motions to sus- Now is the time for Congress to act. tions would not be a total success, that pend the rules on which a recorded vote On two separate occasions, Congress they would be a failure. Now, are these or the yeas and nays are ordered, or on has enacted the Weldon-Stupak cloning folks seeking success, or are they seek- which the vote is objected to under ban by a 60 percent-plus bipartisan ma- ing failure? clause 6 of rule XX. The critics today say they hate jority. And the time is now, after last Record votes on postponed questions Guantanamo Bay. Do we want to be week’s disappointing vote in the Com- will be taken later today. running Guantanamo Bay? No. But you mittee on Appropriations, with the know what, we have to remember, f Labor-HHS bill headed to the floor, there are people who would like to now is the time, this summer, to once RECOGNIZING THE 100TH ANNIVER- murder Americans by the thousands. again bring a human cloning ban to the SARY OF FARMHOUSE FRATER- Have we forgotten September 11? NITY, INC. floor and enacted into law. We cannot sanction their homelands Miss MCMORRIS. Madam Speaker, I f because they do not operate as part of move to suspend the rules and agree to a national military. Thus we are forced LET US SEE FOR OURSELVES AT the resolution (H. Res. 207) recognizing to run Guantanamo Bay. Americans GUANTANAMO BAY the 100th anniversary of FarmHouse get captured by the terrorists and they Fraternity, Inc. (Mr. POE asked and was given per- are slaughtered, they are beheaded; and The Clerk read as follows: mission to address the House for 1 we have seen the photos. That is not minute and to revise and extend his re- what we do to the enemy combatants H. RES. 207 marks.) at Guantanamo, and the idea that the Whereas FarmHouse Fraternity, Inc. was Mr. POE. Madam Speaker, I was a two can be compared is reprehensible. founded on April 15, 1905, by 7 students from former judge. I saw jails, I saw prisons. the College of Agriculture at the University f I saw numerous prisons and jails. Now of Missouri-Columbia; we hear about this torture chamber SENATOR DURBIN’S COMMENTS Whereas FarmHouse Fraternity, Inc. is widely known and respected on college cam- down in Guantanamo Bay. Some people (Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California puses throughout the United States and Can- call it Gitmo. Well, I think we ought to asked and was given permission to ad- ada as a fraternity that encourages values- ‘‘Gitmo’’ information, information dress the House for 1 minute and to re- based leadership, has a strong academic about Guantanamo. vise and extend his remarks.) focus, and is dedicated to service; The statements made by our col- Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. Whereas FarmHouse Fraternity, Inc. fo- leagues down the hallway are unin- Madam Speaker, Senator DURBIN spoke cuses on building the whole man—intellectu- formed, irrational, and totally irre- for millions of Americans who are hor- ally, spiritually, socially, morally, and phys- sponsible. rified and shocked about the treat- ically; Whereas more than 24,000 men have been I ask this person who says this tor- ment, the mistreatment of prisoners members of FarmHouse Fraternity, Inc., in- ture chamber down in Gitmo is un- who have not been given the right to be cluding governors, congressmen, top sci- inhabitable, well, I will ask you, what notified of where they are, prisoners entists, innovators in agriculture, university did you have for breakfast this morn- who were hung by their arms, who re- presidents, Nobel Prize winners, Pulitzer ing? Was it pancakes with syrup, fresh ported homicides, the scandals and the Prize winners, doctors, lawyers, and Hall of fruit, and coffee? Oatmeal, scrambled cover-ups. Fame athletes; eggs, orange juice or cranberry juice; Yes, these are dangerous people that Whereas FarmHouse Fraternity, Inc. mem- your choice? are in these prisons. Many of them may bers volunteer countless hours of service be guilty of very serious crimes. But each year to help improve the communities b 1015 they serve; and the fact of the matter is America can- Whereas hundreds of FarmHouse Frater- Well, that is what those Guantanamo not be a beacon for freedom and justice nity, Inc. alumni and student members will Bay prisoners had for breakfast today. and liberty when it is doing it by abus- gather in Columbia, Missouri, from April 14 Meanwhile, American troops in Iraq ing prisoners. to April 17, 2005, for the celebration of the

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:49 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.008 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4809 100th anniversary of the fraternity: Now, tury of service and achievement. I urge the same high regard or high esteem as therefore, be it my colleagues to help support House the school of law or the school of medi- Resolved, That the House of Representa- Resolution 207. cine, and most of those students were tives recognizes the 100th anniversary of Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- all farm-reared boys. FarmHouse Fraternity, Inc. and commends the fraternity and its members for a century ance of my time. But a rather close relationship devel- of service. Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Madam oped among this group of 35, a lot of Speaker, I yield myself such time as I The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- them attended the same class, every- may consume. ant to the rule, the gentlewoman from one knew each other, and there devel- Madam Speaker, I stand in support of oped among them this sense of camara- Washington (Miss MCMORRIS) and the House Resolution 207, which recognizes gentleman from Virginia (Mr. SCOTT) derie. So as an outgrowth of this fel- the 100th anniversary of FarmHouse lowship and the friendships that were each will control 20 minutes. Fraternity, Incorporated. The organi- The Chair recognizes the gentle- formed, there were three men, D. How- zation was first founded by seven stu- woman from Washington (Miss ard Doane, Henry P. Rusk and Earl dents from the College of Agriculture MCMORRIS). Rusk, who conceived this idea of form- at the University of Missouri, Colum- ing an agricultural club in order to per- GENERAL LEAVE bia. Currently, FarmHouse Fraternity petuate this congenial association. Miss MCMORRIS. Madam Speaker, I has 24,000 members; and it continues to In fact, as history has it, at least as ask unanimous consent that all Mem- increase its membership on college we tell it, they began to have this dis- bers may have 5 legislative days within campuses throughout the United cussion on a Sunday afternoon at a which to revise and extend their re- States and Canada, notwithstanding YMCA Bible meeting. So it was desir- marks on the resolution currently the fact that today there are fewer able that they were going to make this under consideration. farm families and fewer young men group, and they proposed to rent a The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there with the traditional agricultural back- house and live together, and this was objection to the request of the gentle- ground. in the spring of 1905. woman from Washington? Farming issues today are much more There was no objection. And from the diary of Mr. Doane complex than a century ago. In addi- comes the following record: ‘‘At the Miss MCMORRIS. Madam Speaker, I tion to concerns about the impact of yield myself such time as I may con- close of my freshman year, there was drought and disease on crop produc- organized a club of farmers, principally sume. tion, farmers today must concern Madam Speaker, I rise in support of from the freshman class, to run a club- themselves with agricultural trade house to be known as the FarmHouse. H. Res. 207 offered by my colleague, the policies, competition from major for- gentleman from Missouri (Mr. When school opened in September, only eign producers and exporters and seven of the group returned.’’ HULSHOF). agroterrorism. I mentioned Mr. Doane and the two House Resolution 207 honors the While farming issues may have brothers Rusk, and the others that FarmHouse Fraternity on the occasion changed, the fraternity’s objectives joined them were Robert F. Howard, of its 100th anniversary. The Farm- have remained constant. Today, just as Claude B. Hutchison, Henry H. House Fraternity was founded on April in 1905, the fraternity still aims to pro- Krusekopf, and Melvin E. Sherwin. 15, 1905, by seven men from the College mote good fellowship, encourage stu- of Agriculture at the University of Mis- diousness, and build character and in- Back now to Mr. Doane’s diary: souri, Columbia, who acknowledged a tegrity amongst its members. ‘‘They took the house on their hands need for recognition of a small, special- I congratulate each of the members and turned it into a regular rooming ized group in the area of higher edu- of FarmHouse Fraternity on their 100th and boarding house. Those seven fel- cation. anniversary and wish them continued lows were the best bunch that ever got Originally formed as an agricultural success in the future. together. During the whole year they club, the FarmHouse Fraternity has Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal- managed the house without one single become widely known and respected on ance of my time. disagreeable incident.’’ college campuses throughout the Miss MCMORRIS. Madam Speaker, I I am tempted to go into a parenthet- United States and Canada as a frater- yield as much time as he may consume ical aside regarding this body, but I nity that encourages value-based lead- to the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. will choose not to do that. And then fi- ership, has strong academic focus, and HULSHOF). nally from Mr. Doane’s diary: ‘‘Many a is dedicated to service. Mr. HULSHOF. Madam Speaker, I night this dear old bunch assembled FarmHouse promotes the moral and rise and ask my colleagues in the with gravest doubts assailing them and intellectual welfare of its members and House to support this resolution. In ad- wondering if it was all worth while.’’ encourages social growth; loyalty dition to the kind words that already Well, Mr. Doane, in the humble opin- among its members to their country, have been mentioned, FarmHouse had ion of this FarmHouse alum, it was in- their community, their university, and a unique, but a humble, beginning in deed worthwhile. Thirty chapters their fraternity; and the well-rounded my home town of Columbia, Missouri. across the country, including Canada, personality of members. Like many social organizations at with a list of notable alumni, including The FarmHouse Fraternity helps the University of Missouri campus, just a smattering of those: former Kan- transform the young men of today into there were few students back in 1905 to sas Governor, John Carlin; George Bea- the leaders of tomorrow’s world. More draw from for its members. Its purpose, dle, who received a Noble Prize in med- than 24,000 men have been members of its objective back then was really not icine and genetics back in 1958; Pul- the FarmHouse Fraternity, including clearly defined or understood. And so it itzer Prize winner Ezra George Thiem; Governors, Congressmen, top sci- attracted little attention. It was not and Hall of Fame athletes Ed Widseth entists, innovators in agriculture, uni- the result of any sort of a crisis among from Minnesota and legendary Mis- versity presidents, Noble Peace Prize ag students, but was rather the result souri Coach Don Faurot; 49 past na- winners, Pulitzer Prize winner, doc- of a need for recognition of a small and tional FFA officers; one former U.S. tors, lawyers, and Hall of Fame ath- subordinate and specialized group in Secretary of Agriculture; and enter- letes. the area of higher education. tainers Leroy Van Dyke, Michael Mar- In addition, members of the Farm- The University of Missouri College of tin Murphey, and Pat Green. House Fraternity volunteer countless Agriculture was established back in More than 24,000 men have become hours of service each year to help im- 1870 as part of the land grant system. A members of FarmHouse Fraternity. prove the communities they serve. lot of my colleagues here still to this And while the others do not necessarily Madam Speaker, it is my pleasure to day defend mightily the land grant sys- hold a title, each has made his own recognize and honor the FarmHouse tem. It was a small division of the ag mark within the community and the Fraternity for the celebration of its school back in 1905 within the Univer- family in which they live, putting into 100th anniversary and commend the sity of Missouri. There were less than action the FarmHouse motto: ‘‘Builder fraternity and its members for a cen- 100 students. It was not really held in of Men.’’

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:01 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.010 H21PT1 H4810 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 I was honored to be invited to speak Whereas once the six helicopters arrived, of the Committee on Armed Services to an event back in Columbia, Mis- the rescue attempt was dealt a final blow and I am deeply honored to serve with souri, over 530 participants, back in when it was learned that one of the heli- him. April of this year. And I would ask that copters had lost its primary hydraulic sys- Madam Speaker, on November 4, 1979, tem and would be unsafe to use fully loaded this body, that the House of Represent- for the final assault on Tehran; Americans were shocked by the news atives today recognize the 100th anni- Whereas as the various aircraft began mov- that terrorists had stormed our em- versary of FarmHouse Fraternity and ing into position to return to their respec- bassy in Tehran and took 66 of our fel- commend the fraternity and its mem- tive launching points, one of the helicopters low citizens hostage. This deplorable bers for a century of service. collided with a C–130 aircraft on the ground; act of barbarism caught our Nation off Miss MCMORRIS. Madam Speaker, I Whereas flames engulfed the helicopter guard and, frankly, ill-prepared to fully have no further requests for time, and and the C–130 and resulted in the death of 5 realize the growing threat in the re- I yield back the balance of my time. airmen and 3 Marines; gion. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Whereas other members of the task force As days became weeks and weeks be- were burned but survived, while their com- question is on the motion offered by rades acted bravely in restoring order and came months, back-channel diplomacy the gentlewoman from Washington managed to evacuate the wounded personnel was failing. The American people were (Miss MCMORRIS) that the House sus- and salvageable equipment back to friendly becoming impatient and a wide array pend the rules and agree to the resolu- territory; of individuals were demanding action. tion, H. Res. 207. Whereas Members of Congress were dis- As a Nation, the United States was The question was taken; and (two- mayed with the poor equipment, lack of being held hostage by a regime that thirds having voted in favor thereof) funding, and inattention that had been given had no intention of negotiating. the rules were suspended and the reso- to special operations forces up to that time Finally, President Carter made the that came to light because of the aborted lution was agreed to. rescue mission; decision that enough was enough; it A motion to reconsider was laid on Whereas in response, legislation was en- was time to bring our people home. On the table. acted in 1986 to establish a new unified com- April 16, 1980 a plan called ‘‘Operation f mand for special operations forces that is Eagle Claw’’ was approved, and our Na- designated as the United States Special Op- tion’s Special Operations Forces were EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE erations Command (USSOCOM); prepared to answer the call. HOUSE IN REMEMBRANCE OF Whereas the United States Special Oper- Madam Speaker, 8 days later on April BRAVE SERVICEMEN WHO PER- ations Command continues to prove its im- 24, a task force of highly trained per- ISHED IN APRIL 24, 1980, RESCUE mense value to the national defense as wit- sonnel from the Army, Navy, Marine nessed by the performance of special oper- ATTEMPT OF AMERICAN HOS- Corps, and Air Force was formed. The TAGES IN IRAN ations forces in Afghanistan, in Iraq, and in many other countries of the world; and task force was comprised of highly Mr. SAXTON. Madam Speaker, I Whereas the Nation owes a great debt of trained individuals and intensely dedi- move to suspend the rules and agree to gratitude to special operations forces per- cated people, probably the most dedi- the resolution (H. Res. 256) expressing sonnel and their families: Now, therefore, be cated ever assembled to set forth on a the sense of the House of Representa- it mission that would end abruptly in dis- tives in remembrance of the brave Resolved, That the House of Representa- aster. servicemen who perished in the disas- tives— The plan called for 8 helicopters, 12 trous April 24, 1980, rescue attempt of (1) recognizes the bravery, sacrifice, and patriotism of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, airplanes and a lethal combination of the American hostages in Iran, as and Marines who participated in Operation United States Army Special Operations amended. Eagle Claw in April 1980 in the attempt to Forces, Army Rangers, Air Force Spe- The Clerk read as follows: rescue American hostages in Iran and par- cial Operations Wing personnel, and H. RES. 256 ticularly remembers the sacrifice of those United States Navy, Marine, and Air Whereas on November 4, 1979, Islamic ex- who died in that attempt; and Force pilots to work without a unified tremists occupied the United States Em- (2) commends all special operations forces command structure deep inside hostile bassy in Tehran, Iran, and took 66 American personnel currently in service. territory, a daunting task. hostages, of whom 13 were released in a mat- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- The mission’s first objective called ter of days, on November 19 and 20, 1979; ant to the rule, the gentleman from for the task force to rendezvous at a lo- Whereas after months of unsuccessful dip- New Jersey (Mr. SAXTON) and the gen- cation named Desert One. Once there, lomatic negotiations for the release of the tleman from North Carolina (Mr. remaining 53 hostages and after extensive U.S. Special Forces combat controllers planning and intergovernmental debate, a BUTTERFIELD) each will control 20 min- and translators were to be offloaded complex rescue mission designated as ‘‘Oper- utes. from Air Force airplanes, C–130s, and ation Eagle Claw’’ was approved by Presi- The Chair recognizes the gentleman reloaded onto Navy helicopters which dent Carter on April 16, 1980; from New Jersey (Mr. SAXTON). would take them to the outskirts of Whereas on April 24, 1980, a task force com- GENERAL LEAVE Tehran, in preparation for the final prised of Army Special Operations Forces, Mr. SAXTON. Madam Speaker, I ask rescue. Army Rangers, Air Force Special Operations Before the rendezvous could even Wing personnel, and United States Navy, unanimous consent that all Members Marine, and Air Force pilots succeeded in may have 5 legislative days within take place, weather problems and me- moving thousands of miles undetected until which to revise and extend their re- chanical failures plagued the mission. reaching a remote location in the Iranian marks on the resolution currently Eight helicopters took off from the desert 200 miles from Tehran designated by under consideration. USS Nimitz, but only 6, the bare min- the code name ‘‘Desert One’’; The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there imum required to complete the mission Whereas at Desert One, a combination of objection to the request of the gen- successfully, successfully arrived at helicopters and MC–130/EC–130 gunships ren- tleman from New Jersey? Desert One. dezvoused with the intention of rescuing the Once the birds were on the ground, hostages 200 miles away in Tehran the fol- There was no objection. lowing evening; Mr. SAXTON. Madam Speaker, I Operation Eagle Claw received its final Whereas the bravery, dedication, and level yield myself such time as I may con- blow when one of the remaining heli- of operational expertise of the men who par- sume. copters’ hydraulic system malfunc- ticipated in the mission were evident from Madam Speaker, to begin, let me ex- tioned and therefore rendered the bird the onset and tested by the mechanical and tend my sincere gratitude and appre- useless for the final assault on Tehran. weather problems suffered en route to the ciation to the gentleman from Cali- At that point, despite the desired and rendezvous point; fornia (Mr. HUNTER) for his assistance sheer ability of the Special Operations Whereas due to mechanical failures and Forces on the ground, the order to weather problems only six out of eight heli- in bringing this resolution to the floor. abort the mission was given. copters successfully arrived at the Desert b 1030 One rendezvous; As the helicopters and airplanes ma- Whereas six helicopters was the minimum The men and women of our Armed neuvered to return to their respective number of helicopters that could success- Forces are fortunate to have such a launching points, another disaster fully complete Operation Eagle Claw; dedicated person serving as chairman struck. One of the helicopters collided

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Our Special Operations Forces But despite this uncanny display of their dedication to our country. are truly, truly the quiet professionals bravery, 8 of America’s finest young The meaning of Operation Eagle Claw committed to the concept of selfless men lost their lives: Captain Harold L. will be remembered in different ways service. Lewis, Jr., Captain Lyn D. McIntosh, by different people, but it will always So as we face the challenges of ter- Captain Richard L. Baake, Captain be remembered. rorists and weapons of mass destruc- Charles McMillan, Master Sergeant Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- tion, Special Operations Forces provide Joel C. Mayo, Staff Sergeant Dewey ance of my time. a vital tool to defend our great Nation Mr. BUTTERFIELD. Madam Speak- Johnson, Sergeant John D. Harvey, and abroad. The resolution brought before er, I yield myself such time as I may Corporal George N. Holmes. They de- us today recognizes this contribution. consume. serve our admiration and appreciation And I again want to thank the gen- for the supreme sacrifice made on be- Madam Speaker, I rise today in strong support of the chairman’s reso- tleman from New Jersey (Mr. SAXTON) half of our country. for offering this resolution. I urge all of This morning, Madam Speaker, when lution which commemorates the brav- ery of soldiers, sailors, airmen and Ma- my colleagues to support its adoption. I looked at my e-mail, I had received Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal- an e-mail from someone who read an rines who took part in Operation Eagle Claw 25 years ago. I want to thank my ance of my time. op-ed which was published, which I Mr. SAXTON. Madam Speaker, I wrote for the Washington Times, which friend, the chairman from New Jersey, for his extraordinary leadership on this yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from was published yesterday. I would like western Florida (Mr. MILLER) whose to read it in part. issue. Madam Speaker, the resolution also district is the home of the Air Force He says: I will never forget the day, commends our Special Operations component of the Special Operations as a young second lieutenant serving in Forces who are risking their lives for Command, AFSOC. the 82nd Air Force Division, across our country today. On April 24, 1980, 8 Mr. MILLER of Florida. Madam Fort Bragg from Special Forces Head- patriots lost their lives in an effort to Speaker, I thank the gentleman for quarters, we knew very little about the rescue hostages from the U.S. Embassy yielding me time. Special Forces people at that time, but in Tehran. The classified mission was I did know the leader’s daughter. So in Madam Speaker, ‘‘They tried and noble in its purpose, yet difficult and addition to recognizing that these were that was important,’’ said Colonel risky. America’s finest warriors with all the Thomas Schaefer, the U.S. Embassy de- On November 4, 1979, terrorists fense attache and one of hostages. ‘‘It physical strength, hooah, and military stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran skills one can imagine, I also appre- is tragic 8 men died, but it is important and took 66 American hostages. Presi- America had the courage to attempt ciated that they had families who loved dent Carter sought the hostages’ re- them dearly and who suffered anguish, the rescue.’’ lease through diplomatic means but his It was 90 young men who volunteered fear, and loss in Eagle Claw. So that is efforts were to no avail. Ultimately, he what I recall from my 25 years ago and to go to the desert, and 9 of them never approved a hostage rescue mission made it home. The oldest, 35; the what I recall every day when I open the known as Operation Eagle Claw. newspaper and read of the tremendous youngest, 21. Between them, they left On April 24, 1980 a task force of Army 13 children. Captain Harold Lewis has 2 sacrifice our forces make, each of them Special Operations Forces, Army Rang- with families who love them. children, Dr. Jim Lewis, now on the ers, Air Force Special Operations Wing medical staff at the Moffitt Cancer Madam Speaker, although the results personnel, and U.S. Navy, Marine and Center in Tampa, and Kimberly Lewis, of the mission were tragic, Operation Air Force pilots launched Operation who joined the Coast Guard. Captain Eagle Claw’s contribution to the Amer- Eagle Claw. They landed in a remote Lynn McIntosh has 3 children, Scott, ican military was invaluable. One of desert in Iran, 200 miles away from Stewart and Mark, who is currently en- the central recommendations made by Tehran, and planned to execute the rolled in Lincoln Memorial University, the investigative commission called hostage rescue mission the following Tennessee. Sergeant John Harvey has 2 upon the military commanders and pol- day. However, Madam Speaker, a series children, Lauren and John. Tech Ser- icy makers to look at ways to bring to- of mishaps forced Operation Eagle geant Joel Mayo has 4 children, Doug- gether various Special Operations Claw to be aborted and led to the las, Joel, Jr., Brett, and Kurt, who also Forces of each branch of the military. deaths of 5 brave airmen and 3 Marines. This crucial observation led to the cre- On January 20, 1981, after 444 days, served in the Air Force and was honor- ation of the United States Special Op- the U.S. hostages were freed. Neverthe- ably discharged in 1998. Finally, Staff erations Command, SOCOM, a model of less, it was clear from the tragic deaths Sergeant Dewey Johnson has 2 chil- jointness that serves as an example of of those brave servicemembers during dren, Wesley and Lee Ann. the transformed 21st century military Operation Eagle Claw that our Special One of those who died was Air Force which we are seeking to help create. Operations Forces needed and deserved Tech Sergeant Joel C Mayo. He was 34. Today, SOCOM officers and soldiers more and better resources to do their He was from Bonifay, Florida in my and others who are serving our Nation job. district near Hurlburt Field. serve under one command structure, Congress created the U.S. Special Op- Sergeant Mayo, the flight engineer and they are leading the war on terror. erations Command, or SOCOM, so that on EC–130, performed his fire control As chairman of the Subcommittee on their needs would be met. Today duties so others might escape, until it Terrorism, Unconventional Threats SOCOM consists of more than 50,000 was too late for him to save his own and Capabilities, I have the distinct uniformed personnel, jointly inte- life. He died while trying to rescue his honor of working with the members of grated from the Army, the Navy, and pilot, Captain Lewis. SOCOM. It is clear that our Nation’s the Air Force and the Marine Corps, all One of his comrades and good friends, Special Operations Forces are the most striving to support our Nation’s na- retired Master Sergeant Taco Sanchez, unified, well equipped and fiercest tional security interests. had this to say about his friend Ser- fighting force in the world. In the post- Operation Eagle Claw represented the geant Mayo: ‘‘I talked to him that 911 world that we live in, their con- best equipment and personnel available night. It is important people under- tribution to our national security is at the time. However, SOCOM has ele- stand. Joel had no idea he was going to more important than ever. vated crew-on-crew familiarity, team give his life that night. But if you told Madam Speaker, we stand here today proficiency, and equipment intercon- him that he was going to die, he still in remembrance of the lives that were nectivity to a new level of excellence. would’ve gone.’’

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.015 H21PT1 H4812 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Not only did he die a true hero. But so, those who perished in the unsuc- an aircraft, and trained in harsh condi- his death gave life to what we now cessful rescue attempt of American tions for a mission that they knew was know today as Special Operations Com- hostages in Iran, now over 25 years ago. going to be extremely, extremely dif- mand and the Air Force Special Oper- Madam Speaker, during my 25 years ficult. ations Command. in the Marine Corps, I had the good for- Madam Speaker, a fitting tribute to The Air Force personnel who died tune to know personally many of the the men of Operation Eagle Claw is to were members of the 8th Special Oper- heroes of that fateful day, and counted learn from their experience and apply ations Squadron based at Hurlburt some among my close friends. These these lessons to the challenges facing Field. At Desert One the 8th SOS was brave men were asked, and cheerfully our men and women in uniform today. given its motto: ‘‘The Guts to Try.’’ volunteered, to undertake the chal- Some of those have been discussed by The patch of the 15th SOS has 5 burn- lenge of rescuing their fellow Ameri- my colleagues here on the floor: the ing fires, representing the 5 Air Force cans in a mission of the utmost secrecy creation of the United States Special personnel who lost their lives. The men and gravest danger. Operations Command, the joint effort, who died have not and never will be Members from all branches of our new technology that is being developed forgotten. armed services came together, bringing and employed and tested sometimes in To all the families we say this: If with them the best of skills and experi- battle today. your loved ones had not died that fate- ence, but it was not enough to do the We must bear in mind the impor- ful day, the enormity of the task of in- job. tance of continuing to provide our tegrating the military at the time In the end, woefully inadequate troops with the resources they need to might not have been realized. The ur- equipment, tremendous sand storms, succeed in a mission and not launch gency of the situation might not have and extraordinary logistical challenges them out with equipment simply un- been fully understood and the creation contributed to the death of five U.S. suited for the job. of the truly Joint Special Operations Air Force men and three Marines, seri- To those who perished in Operation Command could have been delayed for ous injuries to five additional service- Eagle Claw, I offer my gratitude, my a number of years, resulting in who men and the loss of eight aircraft. But deep appreciation, my great respect. To knows how many further U.S. causal- these circumstances in no way dimin- their families and friends, I offer my ities. ished the skill and the bravery of the prayers and my condolences. It is hard men who took on this hazardous mis- to imagine greater heroes taking on a b 1045 sion against all odds. tougher challenge and making such a Of course, this does not bring them The challenge of Operation Eagle sacrifice. back to us, and nothing can replace the Claw began with the isolated location Mr. MCINTYRE. Madam Speaker, I rise emptiness where they once were. Hope- of Tehran. I remember looking at a today in strong support of H. Res. 256, an im- fully, time has done all that it can in map after this unfolded and being as- portant measure that recognizes the brave that regard, but you should know that tonished at the distances involved. servicemen who perished during Operation every citizen of this country owes a Surrounded by more than 700 miles of Eagle Claw, the unfortunate April 24, 1980 at- special debt of gratitude to your hus- desert and mountains, the city was es- tempt to rescue American hostages in Iran. bands, brothers, sons, fathers, cousins, sentially cut off, cut off from ready at- The resolution also recognizes the sacrifice of and comrades who died on that day. tack by U.S. air or naval forces. We those who survived and commends all of the Can you imagine if we had not had simply did not have anything in the in- Special Operations Forces currently in service. the capabilities of Special Operations ventory. In addition, the embassy staff Operation Eagle Claw is truly a moment in our Command after September 11? We and the embassy itself were located in military’s history that must be remembered, would have still pursued and destroyed the heart of the city, congested by and I urge my colleagues to come together the enemy, but who knows how many more than 4 million people. out of compassion, cooperation and commit- more American lives would have been Even more taxing was the primitive ment to recognize the valiant soldiers, sailors, lost if we had only had conventional state of the technology and helicopters airmen and Marines who participated in this forces to rely on. and equipment with which these men difficult mission. Cailin Mayo is one of Joel’s grand- were asked to complete their mission First, we must demonstrate compassion for children. She is old enough now to un- and the secrecy demanded for the plan- the servicemen who participated in Operation derstand our grandfather’s sacrifice. It ning, training, and execution of the Eagle Claw and those that made the ultimate is to her and all the other grand- mission. sacrifice by giving their lives. These dedicated children of those eight men that I say Madam Speaker, I knew many of the individuals left their families and friends behind this: do not ever forget the sacrifices of Marines that became the pilots of the to protect American citizens from those who your grandfathers. Know that they are Navy CH–53s that were used. In fact, were being held against their will. Although all with God and that they will forever one of my very close friends in the unsuccessful, their mission will be remem- look down upon and continue to pro- squadron that I was serving with at the bered. We must never forget their bravery, tect each of you. time was pulled off for an assignment. and we must do all we can to honor their Retired Master Sergeant Sanchez’s He went out with the others and lives, their sacrifice and their patriotism. words about his friend Joel Mayo cap- trained in the desert for weeks. We had We must also demonstrate a sense of co- ture the essence of every man on this no idea of the mission. I did not find operation to ensure that the efforts of the serv- mission. They were a brave, courageous out about the mission until the rest of icemen of Operation Eagle Claw will not go group of men attempting the impos- America saw it on the news that April. unrecognized. On that tragic day, members of sible for a noble and a worthy cause. It was unbelievable secrecy under the U.S. Army Special Operations Forces, They were Marines and airmen, but which these men worked. The equip- Army Rangers, Air Force Special Operations, they came together for one purpose, ment by today’s standard is incredible. the U.S. Navy, Marines and Air Force all and that was to rescue Americans, and My son is a pilot in the 101st Airborne, joined together to conduct their mission. Be- as Americans, they died together in the and he has got the latest technology cause of their valiant efforts to conduct the desert. They had the guts to try. and night vision goggles, lightweight mission while dealing with poor equipment and God bless them, their families and devices that clip to his helmet and flip a lack of funding, the U.S. Congress subse- these United States. down, allowing him a full view of the quently formed the U.S. Special Operations Mr. SAXTON. Madam Speaker, I cockpit of the Blackhawk helicopter Command (USSOCOM). Today, USSOCOM yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from which he flies. continues to prove its immense value to our Minnesota (Mr. KLINE), a great veteran These men did not have that. They national defense, and it is important that we of the United States Marine Corps. had equipment night vision goggles come together today and properly honor their Mr. KLINE. Madam Speaker, I thank taken from ground crews. They had no courage by cooperating here in Congress to the gentleman for yielding me time. visibility outside the narrow tunnel support these fine men and women in every Madam Speaker, I rise today to rec- that they were viewing; and yet they way possible! ognize the heroic efforts of the service- took this equipment that, by today’s And, finally, we must uphold our commit- men who participated, and even more standards, would not be allowed near ment to ensure that our Special Operations

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00008 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.016 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4813 Forces and our military have all the resources tained in section 3(a)(1) of the Burmese Free- (Mr. THOMAS), the chairman of the they need to continue to protect our country in dom and Democracy Act of 2003. Committee on Ways and Means, my the days to come. During my tenure in Con- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- friend, and the gentleman from Florida gress, I have had the honor to represent or ant to the rule, the gentleman from (Mr. SHAW) for their consistent support share representation of Fort Bragg, which is Florida (Mr. SHAW) and the gentleman of human rights work. home to the U.S. Army Special Operations from Maryland (Mr. CARDIN) each will Madam Speaker, in this day and age, Command and the Joint Special Operations control 20 minutes. nothing is in shorter supply than men Command—vital components of USSOCOM. I The Chair recognizes the gentleman and women of moral authority and will continue to work with my colleagues on from Florida (Mr. SHAW). courage. Burmese democracy leader the House Armed Services Committee to en- Mr. SHAW. Madam Speaker, I yield and Nobel Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi sure that we do our part to meet the needs of myself such time as I may consume. is among the giants of our age. She is our special operators and the officers who are Madam Speaker, I rise in support of right there with Nelson Mandela of charged with leading them into the battlefield. the resolution offered by the gen- South Africa and Vaclav Havel of the In fact, I have spearheaded the Special Oper- tleman from California (Mr. LANTOS), Czech Republic, both of whom were ations Forces Caucus, along with four of my my friend. In 2003, Congress passed the prepared to sacrifice years of their colleagues, Representatives ROBIN HAYES Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act, lives so that their people could live in (NC), JEFF MILLER (FL) and JIM DAVIS (FL) to which among a number of things im- a free and open and democratic society. ensure that the needs of our special operators posed an import ban on all products Madam Speaker, this past weekend, are met. from Burma. Today, the House con- this great lady and champion of democ- Each and every day, our Special Operations siders extending this import ban for an racy celebrated her 60th birthday; but Forces, along with our other servicemen and additional year. instead of being surrounded by family women in all the branches of our military, put Madam Speaker, the situation in and friends on this happy day, Aung themselves in harm’s way to fight for our na- Burma remains deeply troubling. The San Suu Kyi remained imprisoned in tion’s freedoms here at home and abroad. actions by the military in Burma con- Burma, cut off from her supporters, Now is the time that we come together with tinue to demonstrate its inability to both her family and the people of compassion, cooperation and commitment to promote an equitable way of life for Burma. remember those that served during Operation millions of Burmese. Last Friday, I attempted to deliver Eagle Claw and ensure that they are properly Despite the deplorable conditions in 6,000 birthday cards from Americans recognized and honored. They are our heroes, Burma today, the United States re- from across this Nation to Aung San and I am pleased to support H. Res. 256, mains committed to political and so- Suu Kyi to the Burmese embassy in which takes the necessary step to honor not cial change in Burma. In fact, the Washington. The gate was locked. No only those who perished on that tragic day, United States is one of the few leaders Burmese diplomat was willing to ac- but also those courageous individuals who willing to shine the light on the lack of cept the birthday greetings to Burma’s make up our Special Operations Forces. May human rights in Burma. Within the greatest citizen; but Madam Speaker, I God bless all of them and their families. international community, the United have been dealing with dictatorial re- Mr. SAXTON. Madam Speaker, we States has cosponsored resolutions gimes all my life, and I do not expect a have no more speakers on our side, and within the United Nations Commission warm reception from any of them. we yield back the balance of our time. on Human Rights condemning the I do want Aung San Suu Kyi to know The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. human rights situation in Burma. It is that the entire Congress of the United BIGGERT). The question is on the mo- tremendously important that we con- States and the American people wish tion offered by the gentleman from tinue to pressure the Burmese Govern- her a very happy birthday and the New Jersey (Mr. SAXTON) that the ment to become a transparent society, moral fortitude and physical stamina House suspend the rules and agree to free from human rights abuses that to continue her struggle for the Bur- the resolution, H. Res. 256, as amended. have plagued this Asian nation for so mese people and, indeed, for democracy The question was taken; and (two- many years. globally. thirds having voted in favor thereof) Pressure must remain in place. Ex- Madam Speaker, I can think of no the rules were suspended and the reso- tending trade sanctions puts pressure better birthday present for Aung San lution, as amended, was agreed to. on the Burmese junta to change its Suu Kyi than the legislation we are The title of the resolution was ways. For the pressure to be truly ef- discussing at this moment. The only amended so as to read: ‘‘Resolution ex- fective, the sanctions must be multi- hope for promoting far-reaching polit- pressing the sense of the House of Rep- lateral and include Burma’s main trad- ical change is by making Burma’s rul- resentatives in remembrance of the ing partners. Therefore, I encourage ing thugs pay an economic price for members of the Armed Forces who per- the administration to continue to pur- running the Burmese nation and their ished in the April 24, 1980, rescue at- sue a multilateral response to the economy into the ground. By renewing tempt of the American hostages being atrocities in Burma. This is a critical import sanctions for an additional held in Iran and commending all spe- component for ending the military year, fewer dollars will flow into the cial operations forces personnel cur- stranglehold on this society. Swiss bank accounts of the Burmese rently in service.’’. I urge all my colleagues to support thugs who run that country. A motion to reconsider was laid on the resolution that is before us today. The tough approach maintained by the table. Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- our country towards Burma, including f ance of my time. import sanctions, is encouraging other Mr. CARDIN. Madam Speaker, I yield nations to reconsider their more short- APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF IM- such time as he may consume to the sighted and lenient views on the Ran- PORT RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED gentleman from California (Mr. LAN- goon regime. IN THE BURMESE FREEDOM AND TOS), the sponsor of the resolution, the DEMOCRACY ACT OF 2003 ranking member of the Committee on b 1100 Mr. SHAW. Madam Speaker, I move International Relations; and I want to Some members of the Association of to suspend the rules and agree to the congratulate him for his strong leader- Southeast Asian Nations for the first joint resolution (H.J. Res. 52) approv- ship and consistent leadership on time have begun to criticize Burma for ing the renewal of import restrictions human rights issues in this body. its human rights abuses. contained in the Burmese Freedom and Mr. LANTOS. Madam Speaker, I Last November, the European Union Democracy Act of 2003. want to thank my friend and distin- itself strengthened its Burma policy in The Clerk read as follows: guished colleague from Maryland for response to ongoing human rights vio- H.J. RES. 52 the time, who has been a champion of lations. In both cases, it was the strong Resolved by the Senate and House of Rep- human rights globally throughout his stand of this Congress that has stiff- resentatives of the United States of America in tenure. ened backbones and increased the pros- Congress assembled, That Congress approves I also want to express my apprecia- pects that a multilateral sanctions re- the renewal of the import restrictions con- tion to the gentleman from California gime against Burma is possible.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00009 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.022 H21PT1 H4814 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Madam Speaker, Congress must act strengthened its sanctions in Burma, Madam Speaker, as the gentleman decisively to renew import sanctions including a ban on investments in en- from California (Mr. LANTOS) has against Burma. We must send a strong terprises of the ruling regime and a pointed out, June 19 marked the 60th signal of support for the restoration of strengthened visa ban. The EU also birthday of Aung San Suu Kyi, who has democracy and human rights in that pledged to join the United States in op- dedicated her life to bringing about de- impoverished and subdued Nation. posing loans to Burma’s regime from mocracy in Burma and was awarded This great woman, Aung San Suu the International Monetary Fund and the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991. Kyi, before long will occupy her right- the World Bank. Support at the United Her party, the National League of ful position as the democratically Nations is growing as well. Burma was Democracy, won a landslide victory in elected leader of the people of Burma, one of the few countries on the resolu- the country’s 1990 elections; but the re- and I look forward to being there in tion’s list that passed at the United sults were not recognized by the ruling Rangoon as she is sworn in as the lead- Nations Commission on Human Rights. Burmese military junta. Unfortu- ership of a free and democratic coun- I was there in Geneva working that nately, Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi, who has try. I urge all of my colleagues to sup- resolution as well as resolutions on spent 10 out of the last 16 years in con- port the Burmese Freedom and Democ- Cuba, Sudan, and Belaurus, and it was finement, could not celebrate her racy Act in its accession. as one of the few that made it through. birthday with her friends and sup- Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- After the United States Senate and porters. Instead, she remains under ance of my time. the House passed resolutions in Octo- house arrest. Mr. SHAW. Madam Speaker, I yield 5 ber 2004 calling on the Security Council The plight of Aung San Suu Kyi is a minutes to the gentleman from New to address the situation in Burma, the sign of how little things have changed Jersey (Mr. SMITH) who himself has Parliament of Australia followed suit. in Burma. According to the U.S. State gained a great reputation in this Con- Their motion called on the government Department’s March 2005 report to gress as being a champion of human to support the Burmese National Congress on conditions in Burma and freedoms. League for Democracy’s call for the U.S. policy toward Burma, ‘‘prospects Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Madam U.N. Security Council to convene a spe- for meaningful political change and re- Speaker, I thank the gentleman from cial session to consider what further form in Burma have continued to de- Florida (Mr. SHAW) for his leadership measures the U.N. can take to encour- cline.’’ on this issue and so many other issues age democratic reform and respect for The Government of Burma continues on the Committee on Ways and Means. human rights in Burma. to harass and arrest people for taking I also commend the gentleman from Additionally, the European Par- part in peaceful political activities; California (Mr. LANTOS), the ranking liament passed a resolution calling on more than 1,200 people remain in jail member of the Committee on Inter- the U.N. Security Council to address for their political beliefs. The State national Relations, for offering this the situation in Burma as a matter of Peace and Development Council, the legislation which would renew the urgency. Additionally, 289 members of controlling military junta, has contin- Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003 for our friends in the British Parliament ued to severely abuse its citizens’ Burma and the import restrictions that tabled a motion calling on the U.N. Se- human rights. Freedom of speech, are contained in that important legis- curity Council to address the situation press, religion, assembly, and associa- lation. in Burma. tion remain greatly restricted. In eth- As my colleagues know, Burma today There has even been unprecedented nic minorities areas, the Burmese Gov- remains one of the most repressive action within the ASEAN countries. ernment has engaged in persecution, military dictatorships in the world, Whereas in the past they refused to torture, extrajudicial executions, dem- where human rights are routinely and even comment on what they deemed to olition of places of worship, rape, and systematically repressed and violated. be Burma’s internal affairs, many forced labor. So it is fitting and necessary that Con- members of that organization are now Security forces regularly monitor the gress today is moving to renew this im- publicly pressing Burma to step aside movements and communications of portant legislation. as the chair of the association in 2006. residents, search homes without war- The Burmese dictatorship today in- The tough approach maintained by the rants, and relocate people forcefully carcerates 1,400 political prisoners and U.S. toward Burma, including import without compensation or legal re- continues to harass and repress one of sanctions and a possible boycott of 2006 course. the bravest leaders of our time, Nobel meetings, is encouraging many Asian In light of Burma’s continued dismal Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi, countries to rethink whether the Bur- record in respecting human rights and who, by the way, turned 60 this past mese regime should assume that rotat- suppressing democracy, I urge my col- weekend. I, like many other Members ing chairmanship. There is widespread leagues to extend the ban on imports in this body, have tried to get into belief within the leadership of the on Burmese products for another year. Burma to press for human rights; and ASEAN countries that Burma has The utter disregard of the Government my visa, like others, has been turned failed, and failed miserably, to deliver of Burma for the rights of its citizens down, denying Member of Congress the on its promises to the region. cannot be ignored. opportunity to even meet with the All in all, and I point to these above- Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- military junta that continues to re- mentioned instances, the strong stand ance of my time. press its citizens. of the United States, and I commend Mr. SHAW. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 Madam Speaker, up to 70,000 child President Bush and former President minutes to the gentleman from Penn- soldiers are exploited in Burma, more Clinton because both have been united sylvania (Mr. PITTS). than any other country in the world. in their belief that Burma needs to be Mr. PITTS. Madam Speaker, I thank Up to 2 million people have been forced sanctioned and isolated in a way that the gentleman for yielding me this to flee the country as refugees and mi- hopefully leads to reform and change. time. grants. Burning of villages continues in Moreover, our resolution to promote I rise in strong support of this resolu- eastern Burma, especially in Karen and freedom and democracy in Burma has tion. Burma is ruled by a ruthless mili- Karenni states. And Aung San Suu Kyi stiffened the backbones of many coun- tary regime. I visited the Thai-Burma continues to be persecuted and har- tries around the world. border a few years ago, and I met with assed by this brutal dictatorship. Today the EU, the U.N., and ASEAN victims of the horrific repression that Sanctions do work, I say to my col- countries are moving in the right di- is occurring there, the IDPs, former po- leagues. But they often take time. rection to take a strong stand against litical prisoners, democracy activists, Other countries, I’m happy to say, are Burma’s dictatorship. women who have been raped, landmine beginning to follow the lead of the And to Aung San Suu Kyi: Your courage victims, orphans, and widows. The United States. In a major and impor- and goodness and persistence are beyond ex- SPDC uses rape has a weapon of terror. tant move, the European Union in Oc- traordinary. Our prayers are with you. They engage in ethnic cleansing, wip- tober 2004 followed the lead of the Mr. CARDIN. Madam Speaker, I yield ing out whole villages and towns, kill- United States and significantly myself such time as I may consume. ing women, men, and children. They

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00010 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.020 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4815 seek to eliminate the ethnic minorities Mr. SHAW. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- death of her father in 1947,’’ said Josef Sil- in the tribal areas such as Karen and self the balance of my time. verstein, an expert on Myanmar at Rutgers Karenni. Mr. Speaker, I include for the University. ‘‘I would add that she has in every way possible emulated what her father Many believe that we need to reverse RECORD an article that appeared in the stood for, which was for the right of the peo- our course on sanctions in order to International Herald Tribune this past ple to govern themselves and to have a free help the Burmese people. They are Sunday, written by Seth Mydans. The and democratic country.’’ wrong. The Burmese economy is so rot- article is on Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi Shortly after her address at the ted under this corrupt regime that who we have heard so much about dur- Shwedagon Pagoda, she explicitly assumed trade does not help the people. It is ing this debate, really a true heroine in her father’s mantle, saying she would dedi- like pouring money into a pocket with our time. cate her life to the people of her country as a hole in it. The road to change in [From the International Herald Tribune, he had done. Burma is not trade, it is political re- June 19, 2005] She made that clear in 1999 when she chose not to visit her husband, Michael Aris, in form. TEST OF WILLS: THE BURMESE CAPTIVE WHO England, when he was dying of cancer, be- The SPDC must release Aung San WILL NOT BUDGE cause she feared that the government would Suu Kyi, the duly elected leader. (By Seth Mydans) bar her from re-entering Myanmar. The ASEAN must take a clear stand BANGKOK.—Seventeen years ago, as the Myanmar authorities had refused to allow against the Burmese leadership and people of Myanmar filled the streets in mass him to visit her. deny it from leadership and chairing protests against their military dictatorship, The United States, the European Union ASEAN. And the U.S. must do a better a striking, self-possessed woman rose to ad- and other nations have responded to repres- job of organizing support at the U.N. dress a rally at the great golden Shwedagon sion in Myanmar with economic penalties Pagoda. At the time, nobody realized the that have done little to affect its leadership. Security Council for a comprehensive price she would pay for her outspokenness. Myanmar’s giant neighbors, China and India, resolution calling for national transi- The woman, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, was with several other Asian nations, offer it an tion and reconciliation. Sanctions are visiting from her home in England to tend to economic lifeline. absolutely necessary. I urge passage of her sick mother when pro-democracy pro- But opposition from the West is putting this resolution. tests swelled throughout the country in Au- pressure on the junta now as it prepares to Mr. SHAW. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 gust 1988 despite a brutal response by the take over the rotating leadership of the re- minutes to the gentleman from Texas military that took thousands of lives. gional 10-member political and economic In the months that followed she emerged, grouping, the Association of Southeast Asian (Mr. POE). through a combination of charisma and pedi- Mr. POE. Mr. Speaker, I congratulate Nations, next year. gree, to lead what has so far been a futile op- The United States and some other nations the gentleman from Florida (Mr. SHAW) position to the country’s military leaders. have hinted strongly in recent weeks that on this bill, and also comment about On Sunday, Mrs. Aung San Suu Kyi will they will boycott an annual meeting to the long history of human rights pro- mark her 60th birthday under house arrest, which they are invited if it is held in tection of the gentleman from Cali- where she has spent most of the intervening Myanmar. Its regional neighbors, facing po- fornia (Mr. LANTOS). I rise in strong years, in an increasingly dilapidated house, tential embarrassment, are beginning to support of the Burmese Freedom and more cut off than ever from contacts outside press the junta to skip its turn as regional her weed-filled compound. leader if it does not release Mrs. Aung San Democracy Act and urge my colleagues Her birthday has become an occasion for to join me in voting for this bill. Suu Kyi and improve its record on human new international protests against a mili- rights. There has been a brutal campaign of tary junta that holds the country in its grip, At the same time, there has been an erup- village burnings, destruction of rice jailing its opponents while ruining the coun- tion of internal turmoil among the ruling supplies, killings by Burmese military, try’s economy and waging war against its generals, though like most things in this outlaw regime, and it has resulted ethnic minorities. Myanmar its details and its causes are un- in displacement of between 500,000 and From one of the region’s most refined and clear. 1 million innocent citizens living in richly endowed nations, Myanmar has be- In October, Prime Minister Khin Nyunt, come its most desperate and reviled. who was the head of military intelligence eastern Burma. Hundreds of thousands As the daughter of the country’s founding of these internal refugees we call inter- and one of the country’s most powerful lead- hero, U Aung San, she held a nearly mystical ers, was fired and placed under house arrest. nally displaced persons, IDPs, are per- appeal for people desperate to regain their His trial on expected corruption charges has secuted for their commitment to de- freedoms and self-respect. With her dignity, either begun or is about to begin, according mocracy and their belief in human self-sacrifice and perseverance, she has cre- to conflicting reports. rights. These IDP victims are being ated a legend of her own. Over the years, as repression has continued systematically hunted down by the evil She was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in in Myanmar, some of Mrs. Aung San Suu 1991 and has joined the company of Nelson tyrants of this military regime in Kyi’s allies abroad have complained about Mandela and the Dalai Lama of Tibet as what they call her stubbornness and intran- Burma. Secretary Rice has rightly international icons of a struggle for freedom. called Burma one of the six outposts of sigence. But it is the military leaders who But in a contest between brute force and have several times switched track, ignoring tyranny in our world. These tactics principle, between repression and the clearly her and vilifying her, opening and closing used by the junta in Burma add up to expressed will of the people of Myanmar, it is dialogues, freeing and rearresting her. ethnic cleansing. the men with the guns who have managed so She has also been criticized for demanding Many Americans are not aware of far to prevail, and the country’s moral sym- that the government recognize the results of what is occurring in Burma, but this bol who is their prisoner. a parliamentary election in 1990 that was Calls for the release of Mrs. Aung San Suu act is a step in the direction that will won overwhelmingly by her party, the Na- Kyi have come from around the world in re- tional League for Democracy. show all peoples in the world that cent days, including statements from Wash- Americans care about freedom and de- The remarkably open parliamentary elec- ington and from Secretary General Kofi tion was a characteristic misjudgment by mocracy, no matter where it is and Annan of the United Nations. the junta, which had apparently expected to where it hopes to be in the world. In Norway, the chairman of the Nobel win. When Mrs. Aung San Suu Kyi’s party It is my desire and hope for my col- Committee, Ole D. Mjoes, issued a rare state- won more than 80 percent of the seats, the leagues cosponsoring this bill that ment about a past laureate, saying; ‘‘We ask generals refused to recognize the results and these sanctions called for in this joint that she be set free immediately. We look clung to power. resolution will continue to grab the at- forward to the day that democracy again Many who won seats were arrested. Bit by rules her country.’’ tention of the Burmese junta and pres- bit over the years the junta has whittled But the generals have released her twice away at their party. Today its leaders are sure them to release Aung San Suu Kyi already, most recently in May 2002, only to and allow their country to enjoy the aging—Mrs. Aung San Suu Kyi is the young- be shaken and shamed at her continuing, est—and its youth wing has atrophied freedoms and rights of a true democ- overwhelming popularity: huge crowds that More and more, the democratic opposition racy so that all people may have the gathered wherever she appeared. to military rule in Myanmar is personified One year after her last release, her convoy right, as President Jefferson said, to by one isolated and determined woman. ‘‘Her was attacked by an organized mob in what life, liberty and the pursuit of happi- stubbornness is her strength,’’ Mr. Silver- some analysts believe was an attempt to kill stein said. ‘‘This woman will not bend and ness. her, and she was returned to house arrest will not break.’’ Mr. CARDIN. Mr. Speaker, I urge after a period of harsh treatment in prison. support of this resolution, and I yield ‘‘She has become the only leader that the Mr. CROWLEY. Mr. Speaker, In recognition back the balance of my time. Burmese people have acknowledged since the of the Burmese State Peace and Development

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:25 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00011 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.021 H21PT1 H4816 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Council’s (SPDC) failure to comply with the a civilian government, that is accountable to I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on H.J. Res. 52. conditions described in H.R. 2330, ‘‘Burmese the Burmese people through democratic elec- Mr. THOMAS. Mr. Speaker, as a cosponsor Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003,’’ I com- tions under the rule of law, can be made. For of this bill, I support extending sanctions on mend my colleague and the ranking Member those reasons H.R. 2330 must be renewed. Burma for a third year within the framework of the Committee on International Relations, We cannot waiver on our policy until democ- enacted into law under the Burmese Freedom Rep. TOM LANTOS for his strong stand on re- racy and freedom are restored to the people and Democracy Act of 2003. storing democracy in Burma and holding the or Burma. I generally don’t believe in unilateral trade military Junta accountable. Mr. SOUDER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong sanctions. By preventing trade with Burma, we Seventeen years ago the people of support of H.J. Res. 52 and of the people of isolate Burmese citizens from the world and Myanmar rose up in mass protest against the Burma. The people of Burma toil every day deny them the economic opportunity and bet- SPDC, which had established power through a under the cruel and heavy yoke of military dic- ter working conditions that trade can create. military coup. Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, daugh- tatorship. The military rulers of Burma stifle As a result, sanctions often have the unin- ter of the country’s founding hero, U Aung dissent, persecute minorities, and thwart every tended consequence of ultimately harming the San, was arrested as a result of her pro-de- attempt at democracy. people we are seeking to help. In fact, the mocracy stance during these protests. Fol- The democratically elected and legal leader State Department, for the second time, notes lowing in her father’s footsteps, she devotes of Burma, Aung San Suu Kyi, remains impris- that one effect of the Burma import restrictions her life to the people of Burma and freedom. oned. Contact between Suu Kyi and the out- has been to cause the closure of more than As a leader of the National League for De- side is virtually non-existent. Despite growing 100 garment factories and the loss of tens of mocracy, NLD, she was seen as a threat to calls for her release, there is no sign that she thousands of Burmese textile jobs. I don’t see the SPDC power basis and unjustly impris- will be released from her prison any time how those people are better off today than oned. soon. Many hundreds of other Burmese men they were a year or two ago. In 1990 Parliamentary elections were held, and women remain in appallingly horrible pris- At the same time, the actions of the ruling in which an eighty percent majority voted in ons, not because of any truly criminal act, but junta in Burma continue to be unacceptable. support the NLD. In 1991, Mrs. Kyi was because of their efforts to bring freedom to One of the requirements of the law passed in awarded the Nobel peace prize in recognition Burma. 2003 is for the administration to issue a report for her instrumental role in Burma’s struggle Burma has more than 600,000 internally dis- on whether the sanctions have been effective for freedom. placed people. Furthermore, over 100,000 in improving conditions in Burma and in fur- Since the SPDC has taken power, it has people are living in refugee camps along the thering U.S. objectives. The State Department, continued to dismiss and neglect any mean- Thai-Burma border. Thousands more are in in its second report, observes that Burma’s al- ingful dialogue with the United Nations in ad- hiding in China and India. Where Burma was ready poor human rights record has worsened dressing their continuing persecution of oppo- once a country of peaceful coexistence, it has, over the past year. Moreover, the junta’s ex- sition members. The SPDC continually fails to under this brutal regime, become a place of clusion of pro-democracy groups from the Na- address their past and present human rights strife and discord. tional Convention assembled to draft a new violations and fails to cooperate with U.S. ef- The military junta in Burma continues to per- constitution suggests that Burma is not on the forts to stop the exporting of heroin and secute minority groups. The Burmese military road to true democratic reform. Given the cur- methamphetamines; while providing safety continues to burn villages, destroy crops, and rent situation, I believe action by the United and harbor for persons involved with narcotics eliminate opponents no matter how peaceful States is warranted and sanctions are appro- trafficking. or non-threatening. The destruction of medical priate if they are limited, targeted, and effec- The SPDC supports the integration of the supplies and first aid stations continues apace. tive. military into all facets of the economy, thus de- These acts are not random acts of a few At the same time, the State Department stroying all notions of a free economy; while rogue military units far from any authority. also acknowledges that some opposition politi- using currency generated from the Burmese These acts are orchestrated at the highest lev- cians in Burma question whether U.S. sanc- people to purchase and sponsor an institution els by cruel generals sitting in government of- tions have any chance of success and wheth- of terror and repression. fices in Rangoon. er they are worth the pain caused to Burmese The SPDC has done everything in its power Now more than ever, the democratic forces workers. I share this skepticism. No other to repress democracy and the will of the peo- at work in Burma need the continued support country has implemented the same set of eco- ple of Burma. of the United States of America. H.J. Res. 52, nomic sanctions as the United States. If we It is clear further sanctions must be taken in which I am proud to co-sponsor, will continue are to successfully influence the government order for this struggle to come to an end. De- the sanctions imposed by the Burmese Free- of Burma, sanctions must be truly multilateral spite sanctions taken by the U.S. the Euro- dom and Democracy Act. and international like those used to bring an pean Union and many other nations, economic When the Burmese Freedom and Democ- end to apartheid rule in South Africa. While I relief is still available for the SPDC. China, racy Act was passed, few other countries paid support the extension of the sanctions for an- India and many other ASEAN countries still more than scant attention to the tragedy un- other year, this effort to build multilateral pres- trade with Burma providing them with the nec- folding in Burma. More interested in regional sure is key to my continued support for sanc- essary lifeline to maintain their reign of op- comity or economic gain, many of the same tions against Burma. pression. countries we call allies were content to turn a Mr. KIRK. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ex- If economic penalties are to be effective, blind eye to Burma’s abuses and despicable press my support of House Joint Resolution multi-lateral support is necessary. cruelty. 52, supporting the renewal of the import re- Mr. Speaker, I rise in support with President Since 2003, the veil has been lifted some- strictions contained in the Burmese Freedom Bush, Secretary General Kofi Annan of the what. Calls for the release of Aung San Suu and Democracy Act of 2003. As an original United Nations, Ole D. Mjoes of the Nobel Kyi and other political prisoners and the estab- cosponsor of this Resolution, I urge my col- Committee and my fellow Congressional col- lishment of democracy have gone out from leagues to join me in voting in favor of this leagues in calling for an end of state spon- previously silent quarters. Once mute ASEAN resolution. Today we must send a strong mes- sored tyranny in Burma. Justice can only be nations, particularly Singapore, the Philippines, sage to the ruthless military dictators in Ran- served when the release of all political pris- and Malaysia, have gradually increased pres- goon that their repressive rule over what Sec- oners, freedom of speech and the press, free- sure on Burma to change. retary Rice deemed an ‘‘outpost of tyranny,’’ is dom of association and the peaceful exercise Support for this bill will make it clear to Bur- antithetical to the fundamental American val- of religion become constitutional rights. mese despots that their military dictatorship, ues of freedom, liberty, and democracy. The fact that Bufria will be the rotating chair which maintains power through force and ter- On May 30, 2003, Congress passed the of the Association of South East Asian Na- ror, is unacceptable. Support for continued Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act in re- tions, ASEAN is troubling. I believe President sanctions will demonstrate to the world that sponse to the junta’s merciless crackdown on Bush and Secretary Rice should engage our the United States is serious about bringing democratic reformers. The National League for allies Singapore, Thailand, India as well as change to Burma. It is my hope that our ef- Democracy’s popular elected leader, Aung China to focus on using their ties with the gov- forts embodied in the Burmese Freedom and San Suu Kyi, was placed under house arrest ernment of Burma to promote democracy in Democracy Act sanctions will encourage more and many of her colleagues were murdered. Burma and freedom for the Burmese people. countries, organizations, and individuals to This important bill banned imports from An agreement between the SPDC and NLD work for freedom, democracy, and a pros- Burma, mainly affecting the textile and gar- must be made so that the transfer of power to perous Burma. ment industries, until the junta made major

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Pursuant to the rule, the gentle- human rights record has not improved, instead The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there woman from Florida (Ms. GINNY it worsened. Aung San Suu Kyi recently spent objection to the request of the gen- BROWN-WAITE) and the gentleman from her 60th birthday detained under house-arrest tleman from Florida? Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) each will control 20 in her dilapidated home. Citizens in Burma still There was no objection. minutes. do not have the right to criticize their govern- The Chair recognizes the gentle- f ment. Security forces continue to murder polit- woman from Florida (Ms. GINNY ical opponents with impunity. Disappearances b 1115 BROWN-WAITE). persist, and security forces rape, torture, beat, GENERAL LEAVE RECOGNIZING THE HISTORICAL and otherwise abuse prisoners and detainees. Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH Hundreds of thousands of displaced persons ida. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous con- in eastern Burma have been uprooted from INDEPENDENCE DAY sent that all Members may have 5 leg- their homes and forced to live in relocation Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- islative days within which to revise sites under horrendous humanitarian condi- ida. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the and extend their remarks and include tions. rules and agree to the concurrent reso- extraneous material on the resolution As the United States is developing its future lution (H. Con. Res. 160) recognizing under consideration. 21st Century relationship with Southeast Asia, the historical significance of The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there the regime in Burma is stuck in an early 20th Juneteenth Independence Day, and ex- objection to the request of the gentle- Century destabilizing military style of govern- pressing the sense of Congress that his- woman from Florida? ance. International pressure is mounting on tory should be regarded as a means for There was no objection. Burma for reform. Burma’s neighbors, includ- understanding the past and solving the Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- ing Malaysia, are calling for the release of challenges of the future. ida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such Aung San Suu Kyi. If Burma wants to partici- The Clerk read as follows: time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Com- pate in the international community, and be H. CON. RES. 160 mittee on Government Reform, I rise recognized as the rotating chairman of Whereas news of the end of slavery did not in support of House Concurrent Resolu- ASEAN, it must undergo sweeping democratic reach frontier areas of the United States, tion 160 that recognizes the historical and in particular the Southwestern States, reforms. The United States ought to continue significance of Juneteenth Independ- advocating a policy of zero tolerance by re- for more than 2 years after President Lin- coln’s Emancipation Proclamation of Janu- ence Day. newing its ban on imports from Burma until This resolution, offered by my distin- such reforms are made. Congress must seize ary 1, 1863, and months after the conclusion of the Civil War; guished colleague the gentleman from this opportunity to demonstrate its resolve to Whereas on June 19, 1865, Union soldiers Illinois (Mr. DAVIS), is a meaningful re- uphold the highest standards of human rights led by Major General Gordon Granger ar- minder of the monumental day that by supporting House Joint Resolution 52. rived in Galveston, Texas, with news that marks the end of slavery in the United Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in the Civil War had ended and that the States. Originally an African-American strong support of H.J. Res. 52 and the re- enslaved were free; celebration, Juneteenth is certainly newal of sanctions on Burma. It is high time Whereas African Americans who had been now a day for all Americans to observe that the Burmese junta release Aung San Suu slaves in the Southwest celebrated June 19, the end of slavery in the United States Kyi, the key to political transition in Burma, commonly known as Juneteenth Independ- ence Day, as the anniversary of their eman- which was, with little question, the and allow the restoration of democracy in cipation; most dreadful period in our Nation’s Burma. I will continue to support stronger ef- Whereas African Americans from the history. forts by the United States, the United Nations, Southwest continue the tradition of Mr. Speaker, as the Civil War raged and others to ensure that the continued abuse Juneteenth Independence Day as inspiration in late 1862, President Abraham Lin- of human rights in Burma becomes neither ac- and encouragement for future generations; coln issued the Emancipation Procla- cepted nor forgotten. Sanctions are necessary Whereas for more than 135 years, mation, which would become effective pressure, but insufficient. In particular, I be- Juneteenth Independence Day celebrations on January 1, 1863. The proclamation lieve that the Association of Southeast Asian have been held to honor African American declared all slaves in the Southern freedom while encouraging self-development Confederate States free from New Nations (ASEAN) should deny Burma the ro- and respect for all cultures; tating chair, as having Burma in a leadership Year’s Day 1863 forward. Whereas although Juneteenth Independ- Juneteenth is a celebration of June position would be an embarrassment to all ence Day is beginning to be recognized as a ASEAN members. national, and even global, event, the history 19, 1865, on which date news of the Mr. SHAW. Mr. Speaker, I yield back behind the celebration should not be forgot- Emancipation Proclamation finally the balance of my time. ten; and reached Texas, which was the last se- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Whereas the faith and strength of char- cessionist State to emancipate its acter demonstrated by former slaves remains slaves, nearly 2 years after the Emanci- ISSA). The question is on the motion of- an example for all people of the United pation Proclamation was issued. The fered by the gentleman from Florida States, regardless of background, religion, or delay was a result of there being nearly (Mr. SHAW) that the House suspend the race: Now, therefore, be it no Union presence in south Texas to rules and pass the joint resolution, H.J. Resolved by the House of Representatives (the implement President Lincoln’s decree. Res. 52. Senate concurring), That— (1) Congress recognizes the historical sig- Not until Union General Gordon The question was taken. Granger arrived in Galveston, Texas, The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the nificance of Juneteenth Independence Day to the Nation; on the gulf coast and read the procla- opinion of the Chair, two-thirds of (2) Congress supports the continued cele- mation from the docks on the original those present have voted in the affirm- bration of Juneteenth Independence Day to Juneteenth day did the slaves learn ative. provide an opportunity for the people of the they were freed. The news quickly Mr. SHAW. Mr. Speaker, on that I de- United States to learn more about the past spread throughout Texas, and celebra- mand the yeas and nays. and to better understand the experiences tions and unimaginable jubilation fol- The yeas and nays were ordered. that have shaped the Nation; lowed. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- (3) the President is urged to issue a procla- mation calling on the people of the United After the war ended, Congress rati- ant to clause 8 of rule XX and the States to observe Juneteenth Independence fied the 13th amendment to the Con- Chair’s prior announcement, further Day with appropriate ceremonies, activities, stitution in December 1865 which out- proceedings on this motion will be and programs; and lawed all nonpunitive slavery and in- postponed. (4) it is the sense of Congress that— voluntary servitude in any part of the

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:25 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00013 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.030 H21PT1 H4818 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 United States. While it is a wonderful Juneteenth is the people’s answer to (Mr. BOSWELL asked and was given event, Juneteenth Independence Day the obscuring and distortion of much of permission to revise and extend his re- remains primarily a somber date. It is the history and experience of African marks.) a day to honor and show consideration Americans in this country. It is an en- Mr. BOSWELL. Mr. Speaker, this is a for those who lived and suffered during statement that the truth cannot very special day. I congratulate and I through the tortures of more than 21⁄2 be suppressed forever, and that the thank the gentlewoman from Florida centuries of slavery in America. It is a struggle for justice and equality will (Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE) and my dear day that our Nation has gradually ac- and must continue. Juneteenth is a friend from Chicago, Illinois (Mr. cepted. During reconstruction, law usu- great time, not only to celebrate but to DAVIS). Perhaps this is one of those ally dictated that Juneteenth celebra- remember and renew our hope that to- times where everything has been said tions must be held in the outskirts of morrow will be different than yester- but maybe all of us have not said it towns. Finally, June 19th became a day. yet, but I think it needs repetition. We Texas State holiday in 1979. Today, I thank all of those who were co- have been at this for a while. It should people of all backgrounds across the signers onto this resolution and urge have happened some time ago. Efforts Nation observe Juneteenth Independ- that all my colleagues support it. were actually made. ence Day through a variety of activi- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Can you imagine the feeling that ties. my time. went on there in the Southwest when Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- the general rode in and said, ‘‘I’ve got from Illinois for authoring House Con- ida. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as a message. Well, it’s 2 years old, but current Resolution 160. This past Sun- he may consume to my distinguished you’re free.’’ I cannot imagine how day marked the 140th anniversary of colleague the gentleman from Florida they must have felt. It celebrates Juneteenth Independence Day, and I (Mr. FOLEY). ideals that all Americans share. The am pleased that this body has chosen Mr. FOLEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the desire for freedom and self-determina- to consider this resolution in such a gentlewoman from Florida, the gen- tion are at the very soul of the Amer- timely fashion. I strongly support the tleman from Illinois, and all who have ican dream. I think we all understand purpose of this resolution. joined together to bring this proclama- that. Throughout the history of the Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of tion to the floor, House Concurrent United States, we have grown as a Na- my time. Resolution 160. tion and a people. Learning from our Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I Let me turn to the third page of the past, as has been said, learning that yield myself such time as I may con- bill. I think it is important, because freedom and liberty are ideals we must sume. some people do ask the question why to work for and there is yet work to do. I am pleased to join with the gentle- do we seem to continue to try and re- Since the first Juneteenth celebra- woman from Florida in consideration peat history or review history, and I tion in Galveston, this remembrance of this resolution and appreciate very think this section of the bill speaks has grown into a regional, national and much her remarks. I also want to com- volumes of the purpose of this resolu- global celebration of freedom. In my mend Chairman TOM DAVIS and Rank- tion. It states, History should be re- own State of Iowa, the seventh State ing Member HENRY WAXMAN of the garded as a means for understanding to recognize this independence day, Committee on Government Reform and the past and solving the challenges of Juneteenth is met with multiple days the Speaker for the expeditious way in the future. It also suggests that this of education, history, camaraderie, which they moved this matter to the celebration of the end of slavery is an celebration and community spirit. floor. important and enriching part of the Last Saturday in Evelyn Davis Park, Mr. Speaker, June 19, Juneteenth as history and heritage of the United one of the favorite places in Des it is called, is a unique people’s holi- States. Moines, Iowa, the African-American day. It is the oldest known celebration Often in the early morning hours, I community and many others, the of the end of slavery in the United find myself jogging down the Mall. I mayor, myself, others, we came to- States. It marks the day that Union end there at, or at least my halfway gether to celebrate and to share to- soldiers arrived in Galveston, Texas, in point is the Lincoln Memorial, Abra- gether and to enjoy this really national 1865 with news that the war had ended ham Lincoln’s shrine, if you will, to remembrance. A week prior at the Fort and that all slaves were now free. Un- what I believe is one of the most noble Des Moines Hotel, Dr. Myers, Reverend fortunately, it was 21⁄2 years after the and great acts of any American Presi- Myers, if you will, came to key-note Emancipation Proclamation had been dent who, despite popular opinion at speak to us and give us the background issued. We do not know why it took so the time, took the battle to those who and history of the other efforts that long for the news to get to Texas, but would ensnare and harbor our brothers have been made. I am very, very proud we do know that the military general and sisters in slavery. An evil part of of the efforts that he made to come all order which was posted that day read our history unfolded back in that dec- the way from Alabama, a man who has in part, ‘‘The people of Texas are in- ade and that century, to free these peo- given his life work to try to make life formed that in accordance with the ple from this wretched, wretched be- better for those that are wanting to proclamation from the executive of the havior of our past. climb the ladder of success. United States, all slaves are free.’’ So today it is about obviously look- I am very proud of my African Amer- The news spread like wildfire, and ing backwards in time to try and paint ican constituency in my home State of spontaneous celebrations sprang up a portrait for young people today to Iowa. Gary Lawson, chairman of the throughout the State and were re- suggest never ever again should this Iowa Juneteenth committee, has peated each June 19 of each following type of behavior be ever allowed in a stayed focused and stayed on this, and year. We continue to celebrate free soil with free people and that we so when we talked about this over time Juneteenth because of the importance learn from this tragedy and this hor- and we came to the gentleman from Il- of slavery in American history and be- rible dark period in our history the les- linois (Mr. DAVIS), we were really in cause the lingering effects of slavery sons that all men are created equal, concert that this needed to be done. remain a part of the legacy of our that they are endowed by their Creator If I may, I would like to share a cou- country. The legacy of slavery con- with certain inalienable rights, and ple of names here: Minnie Mallard, tinues to play a role in our daily lives that they are and should be given lib- Reverend Keith Ratliff, Reverend Elder and politics. The vast racial disparities erty and justice. I thank all those par- Day, Linda Carter-Lewis, Ako Abdul- in employment, income, home owner- ties who are involved in this resolu- Samad who is on our school board, Kim ship, education, voter registration and tion. Baxter, Jonathan Narcisse, Mary Ann participation, health status and mor- Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I Spicer who is very active in many ac- tality all continue to exist. The great am pleased to yield such time as he tivities with the African American historian John Hope Franklin wrote, may consume to the distinguished gen- community, Odell McGhee, Willie ‘‘Much history occurs of which some tleman from Iowa (Mr. BOSWELL), an Glanton, France Hawthorne, Cheryl historians decide to take no notice.’’ original cosponsor of this resolution. Bolden, State Representative Wayne

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:25 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00014 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.025 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4819 Ford, Amelia Morris, Rudy Simms, they paid a precious price to deliver tion of slavery’s demise. It commemorates Floyd Jones, Dr. Mary Chapman, Odell equality and freedom. We have made freedom while acknowledging the sacrifices Jenkins, Barbara Oliver-Hall. Of significant strides in assuring that this and contributions made by courageous African course, I have mentioned Reverend country fulfills the words of our na- Americans towards making our great Nation Ronald Myers. I am sure I have left tional anthem: ‘‘The land of free and the more conscious and accepting country that some out and I probably should not the home of the brave.’’ But we must it has become. have gone there, but I am very proud remain ever vigilant, and these events Not until 1979 when my friend State Rep- to have worked with the gentleman such as Juneteenth will help us to re- resentative Al Edwards introduced the bill did from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) and the gen- member that the Declaration of Inde- Juneteenth become a Texas state holiday. It tlewoman from Florida (Ms. GINNY pendence must be a true reality for all was first celebrated as such in 1980. Now 25 BROWN-WAITE) on House Concurrent peoples. years later the United States House of Rep- Resolution 160 recognizing Juneteenth. As that Declaration of Independence resentatives will pass House Concurrent Res- History must be regarded as a means says, written by Thomas Jefferson: olution 160 as our Nation celebrates of understanding the past and solving ‘‘We’’ do ‘‘hold these truths to be self- Juneteenth. As the Representative of the 9th the future. It is my hope that we will evident, that all men are created equal, Congressional District of Texas, I am pleased pass this resolution today. Each one of that they are endowed by their Creator to join my colleagues in acknowledging the us should speak to our two Senators with certain unalienable Rights; that historical significance of Juneteenth as we re- and press them to have quick action in among these are Life, Liberty, and main ever-vigilant in recognizing that ‘‘history the Senate and get this over to the the’’ absolute ‘‘pursuit of Happiness.’’ should be regarded as a means for under- President for his signature. This is the Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I standing the past and solving the challenges right thing to do, long overdue. yield myself such time as I may con- of the future.’’ Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- sume. Civil rights pioneer Martin Luther King Jr. ida. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as I will simply close. Abraham Lincoln once said, ‘‘Freedom is never free,’’ and Afri- he may consume to the distinguished once made the statement that our Na- can American labor leader A. Phillip Randolph gentleman from Texas (Mr. POE). tion could not survive half slave and often said ‘‘Freedom is never given. It is won.’’ Mr. POE. I thank the gentlewoman half free. Perhaps, as we look at our- We should all recognize the power and the from Florida for yielding me this time. selves today, we might say that our ironic truth of those statements and we should Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H. Nation will never become all that it pause to remember the enormous price paid Con. Res. 160, recognizing the histor- has the possibility of being as long as by all Americans in our country’s quest to real- ical significance of Juneteenth. we continue to experience the great ize its promise. Juneteenth honors the end of Juneteenth is the oldest known African disparities, disparities in health care, the 400 years of suffering African Americans American celebration commemorating disparities in job opportunities, dis- endured under slavery and celebrates the leg- the ending of slavery in the United parities in educational opportunities, acy of perseverance that has become the hall- States. This holiday actually started disparities in housing, disparities in mark of the African American community and because of events back in my home hope that one can experience the ful- its struggle for equality. State of Texas. On June 19, 1865, Union fillment of their dreams. As we celebrate the 140th anniversary of General Gordon Granger led Northern So as we support this resolution, we Juneteenth, I ask that all of my colleagues join soldiers into Galveston, Texas, first to reflect upon the need for equal justice me in reflecting upon its significance. Because announce the ending of the War Be- and continuing the pursuit for equal it was only after that day in 1865 when Gen- tween the States and to order the re- opportunity to every man his chance, eral Granger rode into Galveston, Texas, on lease of the last remaining slaves. his golden opportunity, to become all the heels of the most devastating conflict in that he or she would have the potential our country’s history, in the aftermath of a civil b 1130 of being, all that their hard work, in- war that pitted brother against brother, neigh- President Lincoln had actually tegrity, the essence of their strength, bor against neighbor and threatened to tear issued the Emancipation Proclamation all that their history and culture will the fabric of our union apart forever that Amer- 2 years earlier freeing the slaves. He combine to make them. That is, in- ica truly became the land of the free and the did so on January 1, 1863, in the midst deed, as Thomas Wolf would say, the home of the brave. of the War between the States. This promise of America. So Juneteenth is a Mr. HOLT. Mr. Speaker, I rise today as a was called the peculiar institution of day of hope and a day of promise that cosponsor of H. Con. Res. 160, a resolution slavery in the South, and it continued America will indeed become the land of recognizing the importance of the Juneteenth until this historic day, June 19, 1865, in the free, home of the brave. anniversary celebrations held nationwide on Texas. I thank all of those who have come to June 19. On that date 140 years ago, Union So on that day, June 19, 1865, Major the floor to speak on this concurrent forces arrived at Galveston, Texas, bringing General Granger dramatically declared resolution, all of the co-sponsors who news of the Confederate surrender and en- when he landed in Galveston, Texas, co-sponsored and brought it to us forcing, finally, President Abraham Lincoln’s ‘‘The people of Texas are informed that today. I urge all of my colleagues to two-and-a-half-year old emancipation of the in accordance with the proclamation agree to it so that America does be- slaves. The ensuing celebration quickly be- from the Executive of the United come the America that has never been, came an annual event, spreading west to Se- States, all slaves are free. This in- but the America that we all know can attle, north to Minneapolis, and east to Port- volves absolute equality of rights and be. land, Maine. In my own state of New Jersey, rights of property between former mas- Mr. AL GREEN of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I Juneteenth is celebrated at churches, commu- ters and slaves.’’ Thus the phrase would like to extend my support for House nity centers, and family picnics across the ‘‘Juneteenth’’ originated. Concurrent Resolution 160, a resolution that state. It is interesting to note that the honors the national significance of June 19, I strongly support H. Con. Res. 160, which Emancipation Proclamation only freed 1865 when slaves in Texas were finally freed. recognizes the significance of the Juneteenth the slaves in the South, not the border I would like to thank Congressman DAVIS for anniversary and proclaims the sense of Con- States. It took the 13th amendment to his leadership and all of the supporters of this gress that history should be regarded as a the Constitution to free all remaining important piece of legislation. means for understanding the past and solving slaves in the United States. On June 19, 1865, General Gordon Granger the challenges of the future. I rise to honor the In any event, Juneteenth has not rode into Galveston, Texas and announced celebration, and to honor the myriad contribu- only become a Texas holiday but a na- the freedom of the last American slaves; belat- tions that African-Americans have made to tional event. This past Sunday, thou- edly freeing 250,000 slaves in Texas nearly American society in the years before and sands of Americans across the Nation two and a half years after Abraham Lincoln since. As inventors, teachers, firemen, sol- celebrated Juneteenth through cul- signed the Emancipation Proclamation. The diers, doctors, and statesmen, African-Ameri- tural displays and various educational day coined ‘‘Juneteenth’’ was first celebrated cans have honored this country with their activities. There have been numerous in the Texas state capital in 1867 under the di- service and dedication. The longevity of the African American freedom fighters rection of the Freedmen’s Bureau. Today, Juneteenth celebration is an enduring testa- throughout countless generations, and Juneteenth remains the oldest known celebra- ment to the virtue of celebrating diversity.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:56 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00015 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.027 H21PT1 H4820 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, I must also rise Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- (2) enhance the personal and organiza- today to recognize the struggle that still faces ida. Mr. Speaker, I urge all Members to tional accountability for health and safety us. Juneteenth evokes in all of us thoughts of support the adoption of House Concur- throughout the fire service; (3) focus greater attention on the integra- a dark chapter in our Nation’s history, and re- rent Resolution 160, and I yield back tion of risk management with incident man- inforces that which we already know: the the balance of my time. agement at all levels, including strategic, struggle for equality is far from over. The joy- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. tactical, and planning responsibilities; ous celebration of the emancipation of the ISSA). The question is on the motion of- (4) empower all firefighters to stop unsafe slaves of Galveston, Texas, serves to remind fered by the gentlewoman from Florida practices; us all of the need to remain committed to the (Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE) that the (5) develop and implement national stand- justice, and freedom. House suspend the rules and agree to ards for training, qualifications, and certifi- Today, Juneteenth is the longest-running cation (including regular recertification) the concurrent resolution, H. Con. Res. that are equally applicable to all fire- celebration of the end of slavery in the United 160. fighters, based on the duties they are ex- States. Its durability alone illustrates its signifi- The question was taken. pected to perform; cance. For that reason, Mr. Speaker, and for The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the (6) develop and implement national med- all the reasons above, I hope that my col- opinion of the Chair, two-thirds of ical and physical fitness standards that are leagues will join me in supporting H. Con. those present have voted in the affirm- equally applicable to all firefighters, based Res. 160. ative. on the duties they are expected to perform; Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, (7) create a national research agenda and support of House Concurrent Resolution 160, on that I demand the yeas and nays. data collection system that relates to the which recognizes the historic significance of The yeas and nays were ordered. initiatives; The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- (8) utilize available technology wherever it Juneteenth Independence Day and encour- can produce higher levels of health and safe- ages its continued celebration so all Ameri- ant to clause 8 of rule XX and the ty; cans can learn more about our country’s past. Chair’s prior announcement, further (9) thoroughly investigate all firefighter The resolution also rightly expresses the proceedings on this motion will be fatalities, injuries, and near misses; sense of Congress that knowing our history postponed. (10) ensure that grant programs support helps us solve challenges we face in the fu- f the implementation of safe practices and ture, and that the celebration of the end of mandate safe practices as an eligibility re- SUPPORTING FIREFIGHTER LIFE quirement; slavery is an important part of the history and SAFETY SUMMIT INITIATIVES (11) develop and champion national stand- heritage of the United States. AND MISSION OF NATIONAL ards for emergency response policies and Mr. Speaker, Juneteenth has long been rec- FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS FOUNDA- procedures; ognized as the day to celebrate the end of (12) develop and champion national proto- slavery in the United States. Juneteenth is the TION AND UNITED STATES FIRE cols for response to violent incidents; traditional celebration of the day on which the ADMINISTRATION (13) provide firefighters and their families last slaves in America learned they had been Mr. BOEHLERT. Mr. Speaker, I move access to counseling and psychological sup- to suspend the rules and agree to the port; freed. (14) provide public education more re- Although slavery was abolished officially in concurrent resolution (H. Con. Res. 180) sources and champion it as a critical fire and 1863, it took over 2 years for news of freedom to support initiatives developed by the life safety program; to spread to slaves. On June 19th, 1865, U.S. Firefighter Life Safety Summit and (15) strengthen advocacy for the enforce- General Gordon Granger rode into Galveston, the mission of the National Fallen ment of codes and the installation of home Texas and announced that the State’s Firefighters Foundation and the fire sprinklers; and 200,000 slaves were free. Vowing never to United States Fire Administration to (16) make safety be a primary consider- forget the date, the former slaves coined the ation in the design of apparatus and equip- reduce firefighter fatalities and inju- ment; and nickname Juneteenth, a blend of the words ries, to encourage implementation of Whereas the International Association of June and 19th. This holiday originated in the the new ‘‘Everyone Goes Home’’ cam- Southwest, but today it is celebrated through- Fire Chiefs, the International Association of paign to make firefighter safety a na- Fire Fighters, the National Volunteer Fire out the Nation. tional priority, and to support the H. Con. Res. 160 underscores that the ob- Council, and the Congressional Fire Services goals of the national ‘‘stand down’’ Institute have partnered with a number of servance of Juneteenth Independence Day is called by fire organizations. other fire service organizations to call on all an opportunity for all Americans to learn more The Clerk read as follows: fire departments across the Nation to con- about our common past and to better under- H. CON. RES. 180 duct a ‘‘stand down’’ for firefighter safety stand the experiences that have shaped our Whereas for over 350 years our Nation’s beginning Tuesday, June 21, 2005, during great Nation. I urge my colleagues to support firefighters have dedicated their lives to en- which fire departments are urged to suspend this important resolution. suring the safety of their fellow citizens and all nonemergency activity and instead focus Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to communities; entirely on firefighter safety in order to support H. Con. Res. 160, legislation com- Whereas throughout our Nation’s history raise the level of awareness toward fire- memorating a monumental day in the history too many firefighters have died in the line of fighter safety and call attention to the unac- of liberty, Juneteenth Independence Day. duty, leaving behind family members and ceptable number of line-of-duty deaths and Juneteenth marks the events of June 19, friends to grieve their tragic losses; injuries: Now, therefore, be it 1865, when slaves in Galveston, Texas Whereas these volunteer and career fire- Resolved by the House of Representatives (the learned that they were at last free men and fighters served with pride and died with Senate concurring), That Congress— (1) supports initiatives developed by the women. The slaves of Galveston were the last honor; Whereas in 1992 Congress created the Na- Firefighter Life Safety Summit and the mis- group of slaves to learn of the end of slavery. sion of the National Fallen Firefighters Thus, Juneteenth represents the end of slav- tional Fallen Firefighters Foundation to lead a nationwide effort to remember the Na- Foundation and the United States Fire Ad- ery in America. ministration to reduce firefighter fatalities I hope all Americans will take the time to tion’s fallen firefighters and assist their sur- vivors through a variety of programs; and injuries; commemorate Juneteenth. Friends of human (2) encourages implementation of the new liberty should celebrate the end of slavery in Whereas the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation is dedicated to preventing future ‘‘Everyone Goes Home’’ campaign to make any country. The end of American slavery is firefighter deaths and injuries; firefighter safety a national priority; and particularly worthy of recognition since there Whereas the National Fallen Firefighters (3) supports the goals of the national are few more blatant violations of America’s Foundation convened the first ever Fire- ‘‘stand down’’ called by fire organizations be- founding principles, as expressed in the Dec- fighter Life Safety Summit in March 2004 to ginning on June 21, 2005, and encourages all laration of Independence, than slavery. I am support the United States Fire Administra- career, volunteer and combination fire de- particularly pleased to join the recognition of tion’s goal of reducing firefighter fatalities partments across the country to participate in this important and life saving effort. Juneteenth because I have the privilege of by 25 percent within 5 years and 50 percent representing Galveston. within 10 years through a commitment of en- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- I thank the gentleman from Illinois for intro- ergy and resources; ant to the rule, the gentleman from ducing this resolution, which I am proud to co- Whereas the Life Safety Summit developed New York (Mr. BOEHLERT) and the gen- sponsor. I thank the House leadership for 16 initiatives to significantly reduce fire- tlewoman from Oregon (Ms. HOOLEY) bringing this resolution to the floor, and I urge fighter fatalities and injuries, including the each will control 20 minutes. need to— The Chair recognizes the gentleman all of my colleagues to honor the end of slav- (1) define and advocate the need for a cul- ery by voting for H. Con. Res. 160. tural change within the fire service relating from New York (Mr. BOEHLERT). Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I to safety, incorporating leadership, manage- GENERAL LEAVE have no further requests for time, and ment, supervision, accountability, and per- Mr. BOEHLERT. Mr. Speaker, I ask I yield back the balance of my time. sonal responsibility; unanimous consent that all Members

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:56 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00016 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.014 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4821 may have 5 legislative days within raise fire safety awareness and bring ducing this important measure. The which to revise and extend their re- fire prevention to the forefront, using gentleman from Maryland (Mr. HOYER) marks and include extraneous material the 16 fire safety initiatives as a blue- is co-chair of the Fire Caucus and is a on H. Con. Res. 180. print for change. leading supporter of fire services in The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there And the third effort recognized by Congress and would be here now speak- objection to the request of the gen- this concurrent resolution is a national ing except that he is in a markup on tleman from New York? ‘‘stand down’’ for firefighter safety. another legislation. There was no objection. Today, all across the country, fire de- This concurrent resolution calls at- Mr. BOEHLERT. Mr. Speaker, I yield partments are being urged to suspend tention to the need to take action to myself such time as I may consume. all nonemergency activity and instead reduce firefighter deaths and injury. It Mr. Speaker, in the early 1970s, a re- focus entirely on firefighter safety, explicitly endorses a call from the port by the President’s National Com- calling attention to the unacceptable major fire service organizations for a mission on Fire Prevention and Con- number of line-of-duty deaths and inju- stand down to promote fire safety. The trol, entitled ‘‘America Burning,’’ pre- ries. During the stand down, fire de- stand down would apply to every vol- sented a dismal assessment of fire safe- partments will talk about the causes of unteer and career fire department in ty in the United States. The report line-of-duty deaths, check apparatus the Nation. found that the U.S. had one of the and equipment, discuss health and safe- b 1145 worst, one of the worst, fire safety ty regulations, review fire ground safe- It would require that each depart- records in the industrialized world with ty issues, and take stock of training ment suspend all nonemergency activi- nearly 12,000 citizens and 250 fire- needs and fitness goals. The Inter- ties in order to concentrate on meas- fighters lost to fires annually. national Association of Fire Chiefs has In the years that followed that sem- also requested that all volunteer de- ures to raise awareness of safety issues and to institute steps to improve safe- inal report, the U.S. Fire Administra- partments conduct a special safety ty. tion was created. Fire prevention and meeting the evening of June 21, today, A growing perception of the need to fire safety awareness programs were or as near to this date as is possible. I am pleased that we have the oppor- take corrective action to improve safe- made a priority in communities across ty was the motivation for a major sum- the country. And by 1980, deaths suf- tunity to bring attention to the fire- fighter safety problem that the fire mit meeting of the fire service commu- fered from both citizens and fire- nity in March 2004. The summit devel- fighters had been significantly reduced. service is facing today and recognize the importance of these efforts. But oped 16 firefighter life safety initia- These improvements steadily contin- tives which are listed in the House res- ued into the 1980s, and by the end of this problem, of course, cannot be ad- dressed with one day of recognition. It olution. the 1990s, firefighter deaths had been Unfortunately, despite widespread reduced to an average of about 100 an- will take years of steadfast commit- ment and cooperation by those in the dissemination and discussion of the ini- nually. A dramatic drop; still too tiatives, corrective action has been many. fire service as well as the general pub- lic to achieve the fire safety goals set slow to develop, and the trend in loss Unfortunately, after 3 decades of in life in the fire service has not im- great progress, firefighter deaths are forth by the U.S. Fire Administration. But I am confident that if we work to- proved. The stand down constitutes an disturbingly once again on the rise. In action to try to change the culture, 2003, 112 firefighters lost their lives in gether, we will be successful; and I am hopeful that today’s stand down marks which is widely believed to be a key the line of duty. Last year 117 died. factor in bringing about constructive And so far this year, there have been 58 an important turning point in our struggle to reduce line-of-duty deaths change. deaths, on pace for about 130, which is The fire services perform a critical about a 30 percent increase over the av- by firefighters. And let me just add parenthetically public safety role, and all Americans erage of the previous decade. That, Mr. that I am proud to be a Member of this respect the high level of devotion to Speaker, is totally unacceptable. great institution, the Congress of the duty and sacrifice that characterize These troubling statistics have trig- the service personnel. I applaud this gered an unprecedented effort by the United States, which has been respon- sible for initiating the Fire Safety resolution that seeks to reduce the loss leadership of America’s fire service to Grant Award program, the SAFER pro- of life and serious injury that too often address this problem, and the concur- gram, providing resources. They get occur to firefighters during the per- rent resolution before us today recog- enough words from us on Capitol Hill formance of their hazardous duties. nizes and supports those efforts. Mr. Speaker, I commend this resolu- about how supportive we are of the fire Specifically, the concurrent resolu- tion to my colleagues and ask for their services. They want deeds, and we on a tion supports three important efforts, support in its passage by the House. bipartisan basis have followed through which I will briefly describe. First, the Our firefighters have done an incred- by providing literally hundreds of mil- resolution supports the 16 fire safety ible job of fire prevention and rescue, lion of dollars to firefighters across the initiatives developed at a recent Fire- saving millions of lives. It is our turn country to get the necessary lifesaving fighter Life Safety Summit convened to make sure that we help them by re- equipment they need to do the job we by the National Fallen Firefighters ducing loss of life and serious injury expect of them: protecting us in our Foundation. The initiatives were devel- through this resolution. homes and our neighborhoods, our oped to support the U.S. Fire Adminis- If I may, I would just like to take a communities. moment to read the names of those tration’s goal, developed under the So we all should take a brief moment that have died in Oregon since 1997. strong leadership of Administrator to pat ourselves on the back for what David Paulison, of reducing firefighter we have done responsibly to respond to There are 23 names: Randall E. Car- fatalities by 25 percent within 5 years the problem. But that is not enough, penter, Coos Bay Fire and Rescue; Jef- and 50 percent within 10 years. We are and the fight continues, and I am proud frey E. Common, Coos Bay Fire and talking about life. to be a warrior in that fight. None of us Rescue; Chuck Hanners, Coos Bay Fire The initiatives range from broad had to be drafted. We enlisted. and Rescue; Paul E. Gibson, First ideas on the need for cultural change Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Strike Environmental, Roseburg, Or- within the fire service related to safety my time. egon; David Kelly Hammer, First to specific goals such as the develop- Ms. HOOLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield Strike Environmental, Roseburg, Or- ment of national standards for train- myself such time as I may consume. egon; Jeffrey D. Hingel, First Strike ing, certification, and physical fitness. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of Environmental, Roseburg; Jesse The second effort recognized by this House Concurrent Resolution 180, James, First Strike Environmental, concurrent resolution is the ‘‘Everyone which supports initiatives by the Na- Roseburg; Richard Burt ‘‘Richie’’ Goes Home’’ campaign to make fire- tional Fire Service to reduce fire- Moore, First Strike Environmental, fighter safety a national priority. The fighter fatalities and injuries. Roseburg; Leland Price, First Strike campaign, led by the National Fallen I want to congratulate the gentleman Environmental, Roseburg, Oregon De- Firefighters Foundation, intends to from Maryland (Mr. HOYER) for intro- partment of Forestry Contractor; Mark

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00017 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.030 H21PT1 H4822 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Robert Ransdell, First Strike Environ- us in our homes and in our commu- equipment, training and staffing needs of fire mental, Roseburg, Oregon; Ricardo M. nities, and in our Nation. departments in large cities, small towns and Ruiz, First Strike Environmental, Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance rural communities across the Country. Roseburg, Oregon; Robert Chisholm, of my time. And there is no doubt the dollars provided Gearhart Volunteer Fire Department; Ms. HOOLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield by these programs have helped save the lives Daniel Eric Rama, Grayback Forestry, myself such time as I may consume. of firefighters and the citizens they protect. Inc.; Bartholomew Blake Bailey, I read a list of 23 names from just But there is also no escaping the reality that Grayback Forestry; Retha Mae Shir- those in Oregon, but that list could go despite the amount of money spent, and the ley, Grayback Forestry, Inc.; Larry A. on and on and on, depending on the impact of these programs on improving the ef- Brown, Kingsley Field Fire Depart- State. I am hoping that through this fectiveness and efficiency of fire departments, ment, Klamath Falls; John Robert resolution, although I am not foolish we still lose more than 100 firefighters every Hazlett, Odell Fire District; D. Craig enough to believe that there will be no year to line of duty deaths, so many of which Mackey, Oregon Department of For- names, but I would sure like to see are preventable. estry; Lawrence J. ‘‘Larry’’ Hoffman, that reduced to as few as possible. The NFFF and USFA recognized this, and Oregon Department of Forestry; Thom- They have done an incredible service to convened the firefighter life safety summit last as Howard Kistler, Polk County Fire our country, to our communities, and I year, with a goal of reducing firefighter fatali- District 1; Randall Harmon, Superior wish that for every profession we could ties by 25 percent within 5 years and 50 per- Helicopter, Grants Pass; George P. look at a little bit later on and say, cent within 10 years. These are ambitious goals that will only be Converse, USDA Forest Service; Alan you have done this amazing job of pre- attained if every member of the Nation’s fire W. Wyatt, USDA Forest Service; and vention. Mr. Speaker, they are the ones service, from the presidents of national organi- Richard W. Black, Weyerhaeuser, Eu- that really make sure that every home, zations to individual firefighters, is committed gene Helicopter Operation. every business had a fire detector, and Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of we think of the number of lives they to implementing the 16 initiatives rec- ommended at the summit, and supported by my time. have saved just by making sure we had Mr. BOEHLERT. Mr. Speaker, I yield that prevention piece. They have done this resolution. These recommendations range from devel- myself such time as I may consume. it over and over and over again. oping medical and physical fitness standards In wrapping up, I just want to recall Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from for all firefighters to empowering all firefighters a story about when I was a freshman New York (Mr. BOEHLERT) is right, to stop unsafe practices. Member of this great body 23 years ago. they were volunteers, but they were To highlight the need to adopt these com- I sat on the Committee on Science, and professional. They were there training, mon sense changes, the International Asso- we have jurisdiction over firefighter they were there every night of the ciation of Fire Chiefs is leading a national programs. I recall one of the witnesses week training, they worked all day. stand down this week, whereby all fire depart- being asked if there was a distinction Yet when a fire called, they came from ments are urged to suspend all non-emer- between the professional and volunteer wherever they were to make sure that gency activity and focus on firefighter safety. firefighters, and one of my senior col- they helped put out that fire and saved This resolution supports this effort, and en- leagues at the time quickly demanded and rescued lives. I represent a district courages every fire department to participate recognition from the chair, and he said that has many rural communities and, in this national stand down in order to raise to that Member asking the question, again, we have many volunteer fire de- awareness among our firefighters about the There are no amateurs in this business; partments, but they are professional. I need to take responsibility for their health and they are all professionals. Some are hope my colleagues would support this safety. paid, some are volunteer, but they are measure. Mr. Speaker, the job of fighting fires is one all professionals. Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased the of the most dangerous and physically de- The recognition of that has prompted House is considering this important resolution, manding activities one can undertake. all of us to initiate the fire safety which I have introduced with fire caucus co- The real tragedy is that we have allowed Grant program, to initiate the SAFER chairmen CURT WELDON, SHERRY BOEHLERT unsafe practices and unhealthy habits to make program. We expect so much of our and ROB ANDREWS. the job even more hazardous than it already firefighters. They need the resources to I would like to express my sincere gratitude is. do the job that we demand that they do not only for their hard work and support on Congress has, and will, continue to accept every single day. this measure, but for their years of dedication our responsibility to provide funding for the All of us in our consciousness have a and leadership on issues of importance to the equipment, training and staffing needs of our new appreciation for what the fire- men and women serving our communities, departments, but we must insist that our fire- fighters of America do as a result of 9/ and our Country, in the fire service. fighters accept responsibility for making them- 11 when 343 firefighters lost their lives. I would also like to also recognize the con- selves safer on the job. They gave their all for this Nation. tributions of Hal Bruno and Ron Siarnicki at Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to sup- Since then, we have developed in some the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation, as port this resolution. quarters, where there was no prior rec- well as the United States Fire Administrator Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Speaker, House Con- ognition of the need of the fire service, David Paulison, for having convened the Fire- current Resolution 180 speaks to the heart of a new appreciation for what we have to fighter Life Safety Summit that resulted in the how we as a nation value the lives of each do. recommendations upon which this resolution is and every one of our firefighters. This resolu- Once again, let me credit this insti- based. tion is a wake-up call to make firefighter safety tution. We are often criticized for not Finally, Bill Webb at the Congressional Fire a national priority. It is a wake-up call to re- being as responsive as some would like Services Caucus, as he does on so many mind us that we need to do more to prevent to some of the issues facing us across issues, worked to coordinate the efforts of and reduce firefighter fatalities and injuries. It this country. But this institution, on a NFFF, USFA, the fire service organizations begins today, where fire departments across bipartisan basis, has responded to the and our Congressional offices to make this the country are participating in ‘‘stand down.’’ call. resolution a reality. Today, at participating departments, all non- Today’s resolution is about words Mr. Speaker, for a number of years, the emergency activities are suspended and fire- and concepts and ideas, but more Congressional Fire Services Caucus has fighters instead will focus only on firefighter meaningful is the action, the deeds worked with the Nation’s fire service organiza- safety. Firefighters are so used to putting their that we do by appropriating money, by tions to identify and address some of the lives at risk to save others that their health following through to make certain that major challenges facing career and volunteer and well-being is often neglected. Today we money is used for its intended purpose fire departments across the Country. hope to begin a new trend where firefighter and used wisely, and it is. So this, in a Among the results of these efforts has been safety becomes a top priority for every fire- sense, is an affirmation of our great ap- the establishment and funding of such critical fighter, whether volunteer or paid, rural or preciation for the firefighters, the men federal programs as the Fire Grants and urban, young or old. and women all across America on a SAFER. The safety and health of firefighters has very professional basis who daily are These programs have resulted in billions of never been a more important issue. Fire- providing some measure of security for dollars being appropriated to help meet the fighters now have more responsibilities with

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00018 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.032 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4823 the increased focus on homeland security and North Carolina or his designee, which shall communism, and totalitarianism, hazard response. We rely on them to protect be in order without intervention of any point burning the American flag is a sign of us from harm while we are at home, at work, of order, shall be considered as read, and defiance, because freedom threatens shall be separately debatable for one hour the existence of tyranny. For our sol- and everywhere in between. Regrettably, more equally divided and controlled by the pro- than 58 firefighters have died this year, a ponent and an opponent; and (3) one motion diers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, number that far exceeds the annual pace. This to recommit with or without instructions. our flag is motivation to keep fighting, is especially disturbing because most, if not SEC. 2. During consideration of H.J. Res. 10 to move ahead, and reason to liberate a all, of these deaths are preventable. There are pursuant to this resolution, notwithstanding people from fear of oppression, as it has measures to be taken to reduce the number of the operation of the previous question, the been in every conflict in which our Na- fatalities—measures that are described in this Chair may postpone further consideration of tion has fought. resolution. These firefighters don’t have to die. the joint resolution to a time designated by the Speaker. b 1200 The number of deaths can be reduced, but we For our veterans, the desecration of have to do more. Not only can we ill-afford to The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- the flag is a slight for everything they lose over 100 firefighters a year, but we can- tleman from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) is fought for. And it serves to dishonor not afford to lose any. I fully support the goals recognized for 1 hour. Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, for the their friends and fellow soldiers who of the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation gave their lives for our country. To the and the United States Fire Administration with purpose of debate only, I yield the cus- tomary 30 minutes to the gentleman parts of Europe occupied by the allied respect to firefighter safety. I truly believe that powers during World War II, the sight at the end of the day, every firefighter must go from Washington (Mr. HASTINGS), pend- ing which I yield myself such time as I of our flag brought tears of joy because home. it symbolizes an end to atrocity and Ms. HOOLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield may consume. During consideration of oppression and the return of freedom. back the remainder of my time. this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only. A constitutional amendment to ban The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. flag desecration is not the end of our ISSA). The question is on the motion of- Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 330 is a structured rule, and it provides 2 first amendment liberties. The Con- fered by the gentleman from New York stitution was drafted as a living docu- (Mr. BOEHLERT) that the House suspend hours of debate in the House, equally divided and controlled by the chairman ment that is capable of changing when the rules and agree to the concurrent called for by the overwhelming desire resolution, H. Con. Res. 180. and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary. It waives of the American people. The question was taken. The debate to end flag desecration is all points of order against consider- The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the an important issue that carries the ation of the joint resolution. It makes opinion of the Chair, two-thirds of overwhelming public support needed to in order the amendment in the nature those present have voted in the affirm- pass an amendment to our Constitu- of a substitute printed in the Com- ative. tion. The Constitution is the founda- mittee on Rules report accompanying Mr. BOEHLERT. Mr. Speaker, I ob- tion of our government, and modifying the resolution, if offered, by the gen- ject to the vote on the ground that a it should not be taken lightly. How- tleman from North Carolina (Mr. quorum is not present and make the ever, the American citizens have con- point of order that a quorum is not WATT) or his designee, which shall be sistently spoken in favor of this present. separately debatable for 1 hour, equally amendment for more than 10 years, and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- divided between the proponent and an it is an issue that is more than 3 dec- ant to clause 8, rule XX and the Chair’s opponent. ades old. prior announcement, further pro- The rule waives all points of order Our laws provide an opportunity for ceedings on this motion will be post- against the amendment printed in the every citizen to express their opinions poned. report, provides that notwithstanding freely. If someone does not like the The point of no quorum is considered the ordering of the previous question, policies of our Nation, the party in withdrawn. the Chair may postpone further consid- power, our military, or even a specific f eration of the joint resolution to a law, they have the ability to protest, time designated by the Speaker, and it to voice concerns, write letters to their PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION allows one motion to recommit, with OF H.J. RES. 10, CONSTITU- Congressmen without the consequences or without instructions. of death or imprisonment. TIONAL AMENDMENT AUTHOR- Mr. Speaker, in 1989, the United IZING CONGRESS TO PROHIBIT This freedom is not found in all na- States Supreme Court Texas v. John- tions. The desecration of the American PHYSICAL DESECRATION OF THE son decision nullified the laws of 48 FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES flag, however, is not a form of free States banning flag desecration. speech. It is a challenge to the institu- Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, by di- Today, all 50 States have passed resolu- tion that defends liberty. Although rection of the Committee on Rules, I tions requesting Congress to approve a some may disagree, the United States call up House Resolution 330 and ask Constitution amendment for ratifica- is not the root of the world’s problems; for its immediate consideration. tion that would ban flag burning. rather, we have provided relief from The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- The House of Representatives has subjugation and freedom to many na- lows: passed the same, if not similar, legisla- tions. H. RES. 330 tion for five consecutive Congresses. In For those liberated by America and Resolved, That upon the adoption of this the 104th Congress, the House of Rep- those who cherish freedom, our flag resolution it shall be in order without inter- resentatives passed a proposed amend- represents more than a Nation, govern- vention of any point of order to consider in ment with the necessary two-thirds ment, or people. It is an emblem of lib- the House the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 10) majority by a vote of 312 to 120; while proposing an amendment to the Constitution erty and justice. Our flag deserves to the 105th House passed it 310 to 114, the be respected and protected because it is of the United States authorizing the Con- 106th House passed it 305 to 124, the gress to prohibit the physical desecration of more than just star-studded fabric; it is the flag of the United States. The joint reso- 107th House passed it 298 to 125, and in the symbol of democracy. lution shall be considered as read. The pre- the last Congress, the 108th, the House With that in mind, I request unani- vious question shall be considered as ordered passed it by a vote of 300 to 125. mous support of this rule and the un- on the joint resolution and on any amend- Our flag, with 50 stars and 13 stripes, derlying bill. ment thereto to final passage without inter- represents the history, culture, and Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of vening motion except: (1) two hours of de- ideology of democracy for the world. my time. bate on the joint resolution equally divided Millions of Americans throughout our Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. and controlled by the chairman and ranking Nation’s history died defending our Speaker, I thank my good friend, the minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary; (2) the amendment in the nature flag and the ideals it represents. To gentleman from Georgia (Mr. of a substitute printed in the report of the burn a flag is to disrespect America GINGREY), for yielding me time, and I Committee on Rules accompanying this res- and disrespect democracy. For our en- yield myself such time as I may con- olution, if offered by Representative Watt of emies, those who embrace terrorism, sume.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00019 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.038 H21PT1 H4824 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 I would like to ask my colleague we are not addressing. We began this gins a dangerous trend in which the from Georgia a question, if he does not day with an equally serious Medicare government can decide which ideas are mind, and engage in just a brief col- crisis which we are not addressing. legal and which must be suppressed. loquy. We began this day with AIDS raging I believe that the true test of a na- Does the gentleman know or has his throughout this country, and sexually tion’s commitment to freedom of ex- staff related to him, when the last time transmitted diseases are ripe in our so- pression is shown through its willing- occurred in America that a flag was ciety; and we are not doing as much as ness to protect ideas which are unpopu- burned, and how often that occurs, let we can about it. But yet we come to de- lar, such as flag desecration. When I us say, in the last year or 2? bate embedding the flag in our precious was a lawyer, I represented a member Mr. GINGREY. Well, if the gen- Constitution in as far as its desecra- of the Ku Klux Klan, because they tleman will yield, since the Supreme tion is concerned. would not let him put his ad on a Negro Court decision, in response to my good We begin this debate with millions of station at that time that was owned by friend, the gentleman from Florida Americans without jobs. Some unem- members of the Jewish faith. (Mr. HASTINGS), since 1994 it is my un- ployed, some underemployed, and some I won that lawsuit, and I stood for his derstanding that there have been at never to be employed again as a result rights, because I knew if they took his least 119 reports of incidents involving of the laws of industry in this country rights away, it would be just a matter flag desecration. from a manufacturing point of view. of time before they could be able to The Supreme Court ruling, that 5 to This debate begins with oil magnates take mine away. As the Supreme Court 4 decision that allowed flag desecra- and their companies receiving their Justice, the eminent Oliver Wendell tion, flag burning as part of free highest profit ever in the history of Holmes, wrote in 1929, it is an impera- speech, that was 1989. Since 1994, to the this country, and American drivers tive principle of our Constitution, that gentleman from Florida (Mr. paying the highest prices ever for gaso- it protects not just freedom for HASTINGS), my understanding is 119 in- line; and yet we do not have an energy thought and expression we agree with, cidents. policy, and other than a handful of us, but freedom for the thoughts we hate. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. And re- including myself, no one is introducing To the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. claiming my time, does the gentleman legislation to address the high cost of GINGREY), you and I and all of our col- distinguish between flag burning and gasoline. leagues hate it when someone burns a We began this debate today with other forms of desecration when he flag. I remember the very last time more than 40 million Americans with- cites the 119? I have no memory of a that I saw one burned sitting in my liv- out health care, 2 million Americans in flag burning in recent times. And I am ing room with my mom. jail, millions of children dropping out curious to know whether or not you do. And almost without hesitation, both of school. And the best we can do is stir Flag burning is what this Congress of us referred to those people as fools, up emotions and divisions by holding a constitutional amendment is about. and we used choice words in front of debate about our precious flag. Nothing Mr. GINGREY. In response to the the word fools. Throughout this debate, in the way of positive understandings gentleman, no, I do not know. Mr. Speaker, I am sure that some of is coming about as far as immigration Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. That is our colleagues are going to try to paint problems in this country. some of us Democrats as unpatriotic. my point, reclaiming my time, among So, Mr. Speaker, I rise today in They will tell the American people others. This is not something that hap- strong opposition to the underlying that because we support the protection pens frequently. resolution. I firmly believe that pass- of our civil liberties and the constitu- We begin this debate today as patri- ing this bill would abandon the very tional right for an American to burn otic Americans, you and I, Dr. values and principles upon which this her flag, we are therefore not loyal GINGREY, and the other 433 Members, country was founded. voting Members of the House of Rep- Make no mistake, all of us, as I have citizens. They will demagogue us, and resentatives, and the five delegates to said, abhor the desecration of the flag. some may even accuse the judiciary, a this House. The flag is a symbol of our country and separate and equal branch of govern- We began this day with one of our a reminder of our great heritage. When ment established under article 3 of the celebrated ideals. It was in 1777 that I graduated from high school in 1954, Constitution, of being a body filled the Founding Fathers of this Nation my assigned topic at that graduation with activist judges because the high- determined that there should be a flag had to do with the song, ‘‘The Old Flag est court in our land has already said as a symbol. Symbol, that is what it is. Never Touched the Ground.’’ that the act of burning an American All of us abhor desecration of the flag. When Frances Scott Key wrote the flag is permissible under the first Desecrating the flag is disrespectful Star Spangled Banner,’’ the flag was amendment of the Constitution. and downright disgusting. tattered and torn; when it was raised in To those who intend to levy such ar- But I am curious, because I asked Montezuma or at Arlington Cemetery, tificial claims, I say shame on you. two people in my district, knowing all of us are proud every day that that You see, Mr. Speaker, this Congress that I would be handling this rule, to flag flies over this Capitol and else- and the Bush administration loves observe on their way to work on June where. draping itself in the flag when talking 14 the number of people that flew their I find it unfortunate that a few indi- about troops and terrorism. And there flags. It is astounding, all of this talk viduals choose to desecrate that which is absolutely nothing wrong with that, about the flag, and how few people on we hold so dear. However, it is because if they so choose to do that. June 14, that is just recently, on Flag of my love for the flag and the country Yet this is the same administration Day, flew their flags. for which it stands that unfortunately that while standing, as the gentleman I am curious, I wonder how many I have no choice but to oppose this from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) did just a Members did that as well. We begin well-intentioned, yet misguided, legis- moment ago, in his comments talking this debate today with an unresolved lation. about our troops who are dying for us war in Afghanistan and Iraq. We begin Our country was founded on certain to have the right to be here, and you this debate today with Americans principles. Our Founders had the and I and all of our colleagues are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan and fam- broadest visionary scope of their times. proud of the fact that we can serve in ilies crying as a result thereof. Chief among these principles are free- this United States Congress, and there We begin this day with the President dom of speech and expression. These are people as we speak, and certainly of the United States saying that we freedoms were included in the Bill of more than 1,700 Americans have died in have a Social Security crisis, and one Rights because the Founding Fathers Iraq, and some substantial number in would argue not against the notion took deliberate steps to avoid creating Afghanistan, and, yet, when they come that Social Security needs to be re- a country in which individuals’ civil home to Dover, Delaware, with flag- formed in an appropriate manner by liberties could be abridged by the gov- draped coffins, this administration who the body. ernment. is so proud of the flag and all of you We began this day with a serious Yet, that is exactly what this amend- who would support its being made a Medicaid crisis in this country which ment would do. In my opinion, it be- part of a Constitution, refuses to let

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Further- can choke on it. few of the things, in addition to others more, I want to also mention that the that I have mentioned, that we could word ‘‘desecration’’ in this constitu- b 1215 be doing. tional amendment resolution was se- Last night in the Committee on Mr. Speaker, are we so insecure in lected because of its broad nature in Rules, I offered an amendment to the our own patriotism that seeing some- encompassing many actions against underlying legislation and I said to the one else burning a flag will lead us to the flag. gentleman from Wisconsin (Chairman question our commitment to this great Such broad terms are commonly used SENSENBRENNER) that I found a way Nation? Let us ask ourselves the ques- in constitutional amendments. For ex- that I can support his measure to put tion, What is America? We know that ample, free exercise in the first amend- the flag in the Constitution. It came by its symbol stands tall no matter the ment; unreasonable searches and sei- way of an incident that occurred in circumstances. zures, probable cause, in the fourth Durham, North Carolina on May 25 of I love this country and everything amendment; due process and equal pro- this year. Three crosses were burned in our flag stands for, even the things tection in the 14th. Thus, it is essential Durham; one in front of a church, de- with which I do not agree, and they are that we continue to use broad terms in signed to intimidate people. The cross, numerous; for better or for worse, that constitutional amendments such as the the precious cross was burned. And yet is the cost we pay for democracy. I ask word ‘‘desecration’’ in order to give we find ourselves here talking about you to please consider, when you are Congress discretion when it moves to the flag. I wonder about my colleagues talking about putting something in the enact implementing legislation. Debate which offends them more; or do they, United States Constitution, that you and discussion as to what forms of as they do me, both offend me highly. get past political rhetoric and that you desecration should be outlawed, such In 2003, the United States Supreme understand the serious dynamics that as burning, will come at a later date in Court upheld a Virginia law banning are involved when we are talking about Congress. cross burning in Virginia. The court asking two-thirds of the States in this Also, Mr. Speaker, the gentleman ruled the burning of a cross by a ter- country and two-thirds of this body from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS) was talk- rorist organization such as the Ku Klux and the other body to pass something ing about in regard to his own amend- Klan is not protected by the first that will allow us to become more inse- ment. The Supreme Court decision in amendment because of the malicious- cure. 2003, Virginia v. Black, held that ‘‘a ness and intent to intimidate behind I tell you, when I see somebody burn ban on cross burning carried out with the action. the flag, it makes me mad; it does not the intent to intimidate is proscribable Justice Sandra O’Connor wrote in the make me insecure. And that is what under the first amendment,’’ allowable majority’s opinion, ‘‘While a burning ought cause us to be reaching across to under the first amendment. So it is cross does not inevitably convey a mes- each other, because it is at that one really unnecessary to pass a constitu- sage of intimidation, often the cross point in time when somebody dese- tional amendment to prohibit cross burner intends that the recipients of crates the flag that the gentleman burnings, since statutes prohibiting the message fear for their lives. And from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) and I have cross burnings with the intent to harm when a cross burning is used to intimi- the exact same view, and that is every- are currently enforceable. date, few if any messages are more body that is here. Therefore, it is a In contrast, the Supreme Court has powerful.’’ uniting thing, not a dividing thing be- concluded in Texas v. Johnson in 1989 Mr. Speaker, as I began my discus- tween the first amendment rights of that, 5 to 4 decision, that flag desecra- sion with my good friend, the gen- people. tion is protected by the first amend- Civil liberties are important. I do not tleman from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY), I ment, leaving a constitutional amend- asked, When was the last time we saw like the fools who burn the flag, but I ment as the only remaining option to a flag burn? I have not seen a flag will stand up and protect their right to protect the flag, since statutes doing so do so because to take their right means burning in America. And I might add, in 50 States, 48 States before 1989, are one day somebody might try to take when it burns abroad it offends me just currently unenforceable. mine. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the as much as when it burns in this coun- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of gentleman from California (Mr. ISSA). try, but I have not seen one of those my time. Mr. ISSA. Mr. Speaker, I thank the desecrations in quite some time. But Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I yield gentleman for yielding me time. cross burnings continue to plague the myself such time as I may consume in Mr. Speaker, I for one would like to South and are used by hate groups to response to a number of the points that let my friend, the gentleman from incite, intimidate, and, in some in- my good friend, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS), know that I stances, harm and murder. Despite this Florida (Mr. HASTINGS), just made so am not so weak in my faith that burn- real epidemic, Congress has always eloquently. ing of a cross would somehow destroy been silent on the issue. He asked me a little while ago about my faith. And yet I still believe that Had my amendment been made in the incidences that had occurred, the when somebody burns the cross, that order, and it was not considered to be 119 since 1994, and how many of those the effect on our society, the chances made in order in the Committee on were burnings in contrast to how many of a riot, the chances that it will lead Rules, the House would have been able might be other forms of desecration. I to violence are so high that society has to debate this important issue for the did not have that information for him a right to protect itself from the inevi- first time. The House will not be debat- at the moment, but I do now, and I table outcome of that kind of action. ing that issue, nor will we be debating want to share that with him; 75 of Furthermore, I do not believe we are the myriad of other issues of critical those actually were burnings. acting as a body in order to tell the importance to the American people. I want to anecdotally mention one of American people what to do. There are so many other things that those 75. In April 18, 2005, this occurred I believe we reflect on a bipartisan this body could be doing today instead in Topeka, Kansas, this burning. Fire basis, an overwhelming bipartisan of drawing up another way to impede and police investigators looked into a basis, which reflects the will of the our constitutionally protected rights. case of arson in which flags were people, their desire to see this protec- We could be expanding veterans burned at the Topeka and Shawnee tion. That is why 50 States have all health care benefits. We could be in- County Public Library. Someone came passed resolutions. Some of these creasing military pay. We could be pro- into the library grounds between 12:21 States are very much Democrat States, viding our soldiers with adequate body a.m. and 1:15 a.m. They lowered the li- some very much Republican. armor and protection. We could be im- brary’s flags and they burned them This is not about patriotism or party. proving our schools, creating incen- near the building. This is about the will of the people. We

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The flag is stitution began without Indians, Afri- ated not a flag, but a Constitution, de- the symbol for which it stands. can Americans, women, or even people bating the meaning of each and every True patriots choose substance over below the age of 21 being able to vote, word, every amendment of the Bill of symbolism. Diminish the Constitution and we have revised and revised and re- Rights, each and every one of which by removing but one right and the flag vised to get a more perfect democracy, gives people rights. They did not de- shall forever stand for less. Do not pass we too must respond to this genera- bate a flag. The flag would become a this amendment. Do not diminish the tion’s request. symbol of these rights. Constitution. Do not cheapen our flag. This generation’s request of us is, in What is the threat to the Republic Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 fact, to establish a special respect today that drives us to dilute the Bill minutes to the gentleman from Florida level, not an overly high one, but a spe- of Rights? Well, someone burned the (Mr. STEARNS). cial respect level for the flag. Not be- flag once this year. Whatever happened Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, let me cause America will somehow be de- to fighting to the death for somebody’s just say to the gentleman from New stroyed if one or one million flags are right to disagree? York in his last presentation, for over 2 centuries the first amendment was al- burned, but because the American peo- b 1230 ple have called on this body to offer ready understood to permit flag protec- them an opportunity to amend the We now choose instead to react by tion. In fact, before the 1989 case, what Constitution, and we do so here today. taking away a form of protest. Most he is talking about was not even ger- We attempt to give the American peo- people abhor flag burners; but even a mane because 48 States had already had in place that the flag was pro- ple that opportunity to revise the Con- despicable, low-life malcontent has a tected. Only Wyoming and Alaska did stitution. right to disagree and to disagree in an Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. obnoxious fashion. That is the true test not have it; and now all 50 States, con- Speaker, I yield myself such time as I of free expression. trary to what the gentleman is talking about, want this amendment, H.J. Res. may consume. Flag burners are rare, but vile, acts I would say to the gentleman from of desecration that have been cited by 10, to pass so that we have protections for our flag. California (Mr. ISSA) before he leaves those who would propose changing our So he is acting like there has not the floor, that every time that we have founding document, but these acts do been historically, little protection for amended the Constitution it has been not harm anybody. If a jerk burns a this flag, but historically, for 2 cen- to expand liberties and rights, not to flag, America is not threatened. If a jerk burns a flag, democracy is not turies, the first amendment was in restrict them. If this amendment place and the flag was protected. H.J. passes, this would be the first time in under siege. If a jerk burns a flag, free- dom is not at risk. We are offended. To Res. 10 will not amend the first amend- the history of this country that we ment. would pass an amendment that would change our Bill of Rights because someone offends us is, in itself, uncon- Let us not forget that we are not restrict rights and liberties. talking about amending the first Mr. ISSA. Mr. Speaker, will the gen- scionable. Who bans flag burning? Hitler did. amendment or limiting the rights tleman yield? guaranteed under the Bill of Rights. So Mussolini did. Saddam Hussein did. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. I yield to let us make that perfectly clear. Dictators fear flag burners. The reason the gentleman from California. As I pointed out, for 200 years in this Mr. ISSA. I might remind the gen- our flag is different is because it stands country, the first amendment was un- tleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS), for burning the flag. derstood to permit simple flag protec- my friend, that we limited the terms of Though we in proper suits may decry tion. That conduct has always and con- how many times someone could run for the protesters and the flag burners, tinues to be regulated by the United President as a constitutional amend- protecting their right is the stuff of de- States Government. That is our job. ment. That is fluid document. It may mocracy. The real threat to our society Both State and Federal criminal codes add or subtract. It may reflect the will is not the occasional burning of a flag, prohibit conduct that could conceiv- of the people. The will of the people in but the permanent banning of the ably be protected by the first amend- our lifetime was to limit the amount of burners. The real threat is that some of ment; yet their constitutionality is not terms that a President could serve, no us have now mistaken the flag for a re- questioned. differently than the question of wheth- ligious icon to be worshipped as would Let me give my colleagues an exam- er or not you can incite a riot by burn- pagans, rather than to be kept as a be- ple. Defacing currency, urinating in ing a flag. loved symbol of our freedom that is to the public, pushing over a tombstone, Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Reclaim- be cherished. public nudity are all actions which can ing my time, I cannot believe my col- It is not the flag burners who threat- be utilized to express a particular po- league would even try to make such a en democracy. Rather, it is those who litical or social message, but are un- specious argument, but the fact of the would deny them. questionably, unquestionably illegal. matter is there have only been 15 inci- The Constitution this week is being Flag desecration was once included in dents in a country of 300 million people nibbled to death by small men with that list as a form of conduct our soci- between the years of 2000 and 2005. press secretaries. If the flag burners of- ety chose not to condone. However, the There are substantial laws on the fend us, do not beat a cowardly retreat Supreme Court’s opinion in 1989 in books that will prosecute fools who by rushing to ban them. Meet their Johnson and Eichman usurped the peo- desecrate the flag. ideas with bigger ideas, for an even bet- ple’s will in this respect. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the ter America to protect the flag by pro- So after 1989, then we had this prob- gentleman from New York (Mr. ACKER- tecting democracy, not by retreating lem. H.J. Res. 10 will simply return to MAN), my very good friend on the House from it. where we were 200 years ago, overturn Committee on International Relations. The choice today is substance or this erroneous decision. That is all we (Mr. ACKERMAN asked and was symbolism. We cannot kill a flag. It is are doing here, restoring the original given permission to revise and extend a symbol; and, yes, patriots have died, meaning to the first amendment that his remarks.) but they have died for liberty. They had persisted for over 200 years. Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I love have died for democracy. They have As we stand here today, we have a our flag and that for which it stands. It died for the right of the protestors. flag behind us here in the House. That stands for a Nation founded by people They died for values. flag was like the flag that we saw on fleeing from oppressors. It stands for The flag is a symbol of those values. 9/11. Who can forget the iconic photo freedoms, not the least of which is the Saying that people died for the flag is taken on the terrible day of September freedom of opinion and the unimpeded symbolic language. What they really 11, 2001, of three New York City

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Those laws, could the Speaker, I would urge my colleague the symbolism of American mourning gentleman tell me where there is a con- from Georgia, if he is interested in this and the symbolism of a determination stitutional amendment to ban that? colloquy continuing, perhaps it is that to pursue justice, that we would allow There is none. We take care of that he would yield some time to the gen- it to be burned. with other laws. tleman from Florida (Mr. STEARNS), So we are here to move forward on In the history which the gentleman who may in turn yield time to the gen- this amendment. I urge my colleagues is so fond of citing in this country, tleman from New York (Mr. ACKERMAN) to support the rule. never has there been a case where we and myself and the gentleman from Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. amended the Founding Fathers’ Bill of New York (Mr. NADLER). Speaker, I yield myself such time as I Rights. We have never amended the Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I have may consume. Constitution’s Bill of Rights. We have no other speakers at this time. I plan I would ask the gentleman from Flor- never once taken away rights of Ameri- to reserve the balance of my time, but ida (Mr. STEARNS), my friend, does the cans. I will be happy to yield 2 minutes to gentleman know of any time that we Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, will the the gentleman from Florida (Mr. have amended the Bill of Rights in the gentleman yield? HASTINGS) in the interest of continu- United States of America? Mr. ACKERMAN. I yield to the gen- ation of this colloquy. Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, will the tleman from Florida. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. gentleman yield? Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, the gen- Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. I yield to tleman from New York would agree Florida (Mr. STEARNS). the gentleman from Florida. that we are not amending the first Mr. STEARNS. Well, we have been Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I think amendment or otherwise limiting in through this debate, and in all respect I would ask my colleague why he is any way the guarantees under the Bill to the gentleman from New York, he against 200 years in this country, when of Rights. Is that not true what we are has come down here and he pulls a box we protected our flag, why is he stand- doing? out and he has the American flag on ing on the floor today not respecting Mr. ACKERMAN. No, that is not handkerchiefs and he has got it on his the tradition of this country for 200 true. That is absolutely not true. tie. I respect him for doing that be- years and realizing that all 50 States What my colleagues are doing is cause he is really saying that the want us to enact this legislation. amending the Constitution which, for American flag comes in many forms Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. the first time since Prohibition, takes and people use it to adorn, maybe even Speaker, reclaiming my time, because away the right; and there was such a upholstery, but that is a little dif- I believe in the first amendment. That hue and cry in Prohibition and that ferent. That is a little different than was the first thing done in the United was because more people happened to taking the flag and burning it. States Constitution; and I believe that drink than burn the flag, appropriately The fact that when this country was in 1777, when the Founders of this Na- so, I might say. founded and we have all the States up tion established the flag as our symbol Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, if the until 1989 supporting the idea of protec- that they were correct then and they gentleman would continue to yield, I tion of the flag, I mean, that tradition are correct now. understand the gentleman is kind to alone, by saying to the American peo- I do not know whether my colleague give me this time. It is the gentleman’s ple we are going to forget all that tra- was on the floor when I said to him, time, but the point is this is a con- dition, so have we been wrong? and I rather suspect he was not, that I stitutional amendment. It is not Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. resent flag burning, but I respect changing the first amendment. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I— rights, and I will respect the rights of Mr. ACKERMAN. Reclaiming my Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I think individuals within the framework of time, of course it takes away a recog- I have got the time now. the Declaration of Independence and nized form of protest and freedom of Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. No, the the Bill of Rights for as long as I am expression. If a person burns the flag, if gentleman does not. here. they burn someone else’s flag, that is a The SPEAKER pro tempore. Did the Mr. Speaker, I yield 21⁄2 minutes to crime. If they urinate in public, as the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) the gentleman from New York (Mr. gentleman’s side is so apt to talk allocate time to the gentleman from ACKERMAN), my colleague. about, on the flag, which is a des- Florida (Mr. HASTINGS) or the gen- Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I picable thing to do, there are laws that tleman from Florida (Mr. STEARNS)? would appreciate it if the gentleman protect against those things occurring Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 from Florida (Mr. STEARNS) does not in public. additional minutes to the gentleman leave the floor for a moment. Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, if the from Florida (Mr. STEARNS). I appreciate very much his lecture gentleman would further yield, I have Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, what about 9/11. I happen to live in New one question for the gentleman. If I the gentleman is saying when we think York. I am a New Yorker. I am a New went to the New York City firefighters about it, my good colleague from Flor- York Representative. I was born in who raised our flag on the rubble of the ida and New York, were the people in New York, and let me tell the gen- World Trade Center and I said to them, this country wrong for 200 years to pro- tleman how proud we are of those fire- do you want to protect this flag from tect the flag from desecration? men. Let me tell the gentleman how desecration and burning, what does my Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. No. proud we are of the act that they did in colleague think their answer would be? Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, now the raising that flag and how proud each Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, re- gentleman, as a Congressman in this and every one of us is of that flag. claiming my time, they were there to 21st century, is saying they were all But let me also tell the gentleman protect lives and protect Americans. wrong, the judge in the Johnson and this: we are proud of that flag because They raised the flag in an act of patri- Eichman case was absolutely right? He it represents a set of values that are otism, to show why this great country was not respecting the 200 years we had different from al Qaeda’s values, from is different from those that attacked and now suddenly out of thin air he has oppressors’ values. That flag represents us, and that is because we have a Con- decided to change the courts? our Constitution, and that Constitu- stitution. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. tion is what makes the difference be- Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I do not tween us and others. Speaker, how much time remains? want to create a constitutional morass,

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but I had the time and yielded to the Mr. Speaker, 11⁄2 plus 2 are 31⁄2 even in Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, the gen- gentleman from Florida (Mr. STEARNS), Florida. tleman from Florida (Mr. STEARNS) in- and I tried to reclaim my time. The The SPEAKER pro tempore. It is the dicated this does not implicate free Chair then permitted the gentleman understanding of the Chair, upon ask- speech. I would simply point out that from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) to yield ing the gentleman from Georgia to we see movies all the time. In those time to the gentleman from Florida clarify his initial allocation of time, movies we see actors dressed up as (Mr. STEARNS), which should come that he intended to yield an initial 2 Nazis, as German soldiers in German after the time that I have utilized. minutes and a subsequent 2 minutes to World War II trampling and burning Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I think the gentleman from Florida (Mr. the flag. Do we go out and arrest those we need a clarification who has the STEARNS). The gentleman from Florida actors? Of course not, because we know time. I understood that my side had (Mr. STEARNS) has the time. the actors do not mean it; they are given me 2 minutes. Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, fur- playing a role. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- ther parliamentary inquiry. But this amendment says if an Amer- tleman from Florida (Mr. STEARNS) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the ican citizen to make a point, a point gentleman from Florida yield to the will suspend. that he disagrees with the actions of gentleman from New York (Mr. ACKER- Did the gentleman from Georgia ini- his government, were to do the same tially allocate debate time to the gen- MAN) for a parliamentary inquiry? Mr. STEARNS. I do. thing, then we would arrest him. So tleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS) or Mr. ACKERMAN. Is what counts in what are we really saying? It is not the the gentleman from Florida (Mr. the rules of procedure of the House act of the flag burning that matters; it STEARNS). is the point of view associated with the Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, he has what the gentleman’s intent was or what the gentleman did? flag burning which is why this is a free been very generous with my time. I do The SPEAKER pro tempore. The speech issue and why we should not not want to take his time away be- Chair asked the gentleman from Geor- pass this amendment. cause he is on the rule. gia for a clarification. The gentleman Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I yield The SPEAKER pro tempore. The from Georgia initially indicated he was myself the balance of my time. Chair is asking the gentleman from yielding 2 minutes to the gentleman In closing, I thank the gentleman Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) who he initially from Florida and the Chair did not from California (Mr. CUNNINGHAM) for allocated time to. hear which gentleman from Florida he introducing this legislation and to the Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, may I intended to yield time to. Upon seeking gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. SEN- inquire as to how much time our side clarification, the gentleman from SENBRENNER), the chairman of the has remaining? Georgia indicated he intended to yield Committee on the Judiciary, for being The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. steadfast and persistent in trying to tleman from Georgia (Mr. GINGREY) has STEARNS). bring resolution to the issue of flag 111⁄2 minutes remaining after this time The gentleman from Florida (Mr. desecration. has expired. However, the question to STEARNS) may proceed. On June 14, 1777, the Continental the gentleman from Georgia is, who Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I am Congress approved the stars and stripes initially did the gentleman allocate going to wrap up here. I did not intend design as the official flag of the United time to, the gentleman from Florida to get into this kind of debate. States in order to designate and pro- (Mr. HASTINGS) or the gentleman from Mr. Speaker, only to make my point, tect our ships from friendly fire at sea. Florida (Mr. STEARNS)? as a conservative, when we look at the Since 1994, 119 incidents of flag dese- b 1245 issue and say there are 200 years of tra- cration, and yes, 75 of those were flag dition here of protecting the flag, I Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, that was burnings, have been reported in the think we should not throw that tradi- United States and its territories. A my mistake. I intended to yield that tion out and remember it is only this time to the gentleman from Florida constitutional amendment will send a judge in Johnson v. Eichman in 1989 strong message of respect for our coun- (Mr. STEARNS) rather than the gen- that made that change, and now again tleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS). I try and what it represents. Every Me- we have 50 States that are asking for morial Day, civic groups volunteer apologize for that mistake. us as Members of Congress to vote to Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. their time placing flags on the graves support H.J. Res. 10. of our fallen soldiers. It was said ear- Speaker, how much time do I have? Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I reserve lier on Flag Day, June 14, that very few The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. the balance of my time for the purpose of our citizens took their liberty to dis- FOSSELLA). The gentleman from Flor- of closing. 1 ida (Mr. HASTINGS) has 1 ⁄2 minutes re- Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. play their personal flags. It is regret- maining. The gentleman from Georgia Speaker, I yield myself such time as I table. It is regrettable that on Memo- (Mr. GINGREY) has 111⁄2 minutes remain- may consume. rial Day, instead of honoring our fall- ing; and, the gentleman from Florida I would just comment, in the John- en, our KIAs in this great country, peo- (Mr. STEARNS) has 3 minutes remain- son case, it was Justice Scalia that was ple, many people, most people, in fact, ing. the fifth vote that made the ruling just use it as a long weekend, another PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY that the gentleman from Florida (Mr. day, a holiday, not really remem- Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, par- STEARNS) was speaking of just a mo- bering. But, of course, we do not throw liamentary inquiry. ment ago. I would hope that he would out Memorial Day just because our The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the know that. citizens are not paying the proper re- gentleman from Florida (Mr. STEARNS) The sum fact of the matter is none of spect. yield to the gentleman from New York us are in favor of anybody burning a Whenever a soldier or a government (Mr. ACKERMAN) for the parliamentary flag. But the simple fact of the matter leader dies, a flag is given to his or her inquiry? is all of us ought to be about the busi- family in honor of their service to our Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I do. ness of protecting the rights and the country. Our flag means something to The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- liberties of United States citizens. these civic groups, these family mem- tleman will state his parliamentary in- What I have said I repeat, and that is bers, our veterans, our soldiers, and all quiry. I am not so insecure that when I see a Americans. Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, if the fool burn a flag that it makes me any- Every day men and women selflessly gentleman from Georgia (Mr. thing more than incensed. It does not give of themselves to protect our coun- GINGREY), who controls the time, yield- cause me to lose any respect for my try and our liberties, and they do not ed 2 minutes, which is an allocation of country at all, but the rights of that deserve to be dishonored, just as our time to the gentleman from Florida individual are the things that we must firefighters and our policemen in the (Mr. HASTINGS), should not the gen- be here to protect. great City of New York gave of them- tleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS) Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of selves on that fateful day of 9/11. have 31⁄2 minutes even if they are New my time to the gentleman from New During our war against terrorism, we York minutes? York (Mr. NADLER). need to send a strong message to the

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00024 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.048 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4829 enemies of America and the enemies of for consideration of H.R. 2475, author- into some other capacity in the private freedom by protecting the symbol and izing appropriations for fiscal year 2006 sector. values of our Nation. With that said, for intelligence and intelligence-re- But they do it as a labor of love, as Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to lated activities of the United States a part of public service identical to pass this rule, to oppose the Watt sub- Government, the Community Manage- that which calls men and women into stitution, and pass the underlying leg- ment Account, and the Central Intel- uniform in the armed services and islation. ligence Agency Retirement and Dis- which calls men and women into our Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance ability System. firefighter and police and other first re- of my time, and I move the previous I am pleased to bring this resolution sponding capacities. No differently question on the resolution. to the floor for its consideration. The than those uniformed members, the The previous question was ordered. rule provides for 1 hour of general de- men and women in our intelligence The resolution was agreed to. bate, equally divided and controlled by community throughout the world are A motion to reconsider was laid on the chairman and ranking minority performing a huge public service for the table. member of the Permanent Select Com- which we can never show enough grati- tude and appreciation. f mittee on Intelligence. The rule waives all points of order against consider- b 1300 PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION ation of the bill. The Intelligence Committee has re- OF H.R. 2475, INTELLIGENCE AU- It provides that the amendment in ported out a bill that continues the THORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL the nature of a substitute rec- House’s commitment to the global war YEAR 2006 ommended by the Permanent Select on terrorism and to ensuring that in- Committee on Intelligence modified by Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, by direc- telligence resources are directed in a the amendment printed in part A of the tion of the Committee on Rules, I call balanced way toward threats to our na- Committee on Rules report accom- up House Resolution 331 and ask for its tional security. This legislation au- panying the resolution shall be consid- immediate consideration. thorizes more than last year’s appro- The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- ered as adopted and shall be considered priated amount and more than the lows: as read. President’s request to continue to fight It makes in order an amendment of- H. RES. 331 the war on terror. fered by the gentlewoman from New Resolved, That upon the adoption of this The bill does an effective job of bal- York (Mrs. MALONEY) or her designee resolution it shall be in order without inter- ancing our intelligence resources and vention of any point of order to consider in which shall be considered as read and strengthening human intelligence the House the bill (H.R. 2475) to authorize ap- shall be debatable for 30 minutes equal- gathering by increasing the number of propriations for fiscal year 2006 for intel- ly divided and controlled by the pro- case officers and training and support ligence and intelligence-related activities of ponent and opponent, and all points of infrastructure. A long-term counterter- the United States Government, the Commu- order against the amendment are rorism program is established to re- nity Management Account, and the Central waived. duce the dependence on supplemental Intelligence Agency Retirement and Dis- The rule provides for a motion to re- ability System, and for other purposes. The appropriations. Additionally, it author- commit with or without instructions. izes the full amount of funds expected bill shall be considered as read. The amend- Mr. Speaker, I am proud to present ment in the nature of a substitute rec- for heightened operations for counter- ommended by the Permanent Select Com- for consideration the rule for the Intel- terrorism operations and the war in mittee on Intelligence now printed in the ligence Authorization Act for fiscal Iraq. bill, modified by the amendment printed in year 2006. I want to commend the gen- H.R. 2475 enhances the analytic part A of the report of the Committee on tleman from Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) workforce by providing additional lin- Rules accompanying this resolution, shall be and his hard-working ranking member, guists and analysts as well as improved considered as adopted. The previous question the gentlewoman from California (Ms. shall be considered as ordered on the bill, as training and tools. Furthermore, the HARMAN), for their excellent work on bill continues to invest in technical amended, and on any further amendment this legislation. More than any other thereto to final passage without intervening programs, funding systems end to end, motion except: (1) One hour of debate on the committee in the Congress, we rely on investing in R&D and increased use of bill, as amended, equally divided and con- the Permanent Select Committee on signature intelligence, and reflects the trolled by the chairman and ranking minor- Intelligence to do work that we have results of a comprehensive survey to ity member of the Permanent Select Com- confidence in and that is accurate and review and rationalize technical collec- mittee on Intelligence; (2) the further honest. The committee is the eyes and tion programs. amendment printed in part B of the report of ears of this Congress in the intelligence For the first time, the Intelligence the Committee on Rules, if offered by Rep- community. We depend on them to be Authorization Act funds the new Office resentative Maloney of New York or her des- aware of what the rest of the world and ignee, which shall be in order without inter- of the Director of National Intelligence vention of any point of order or demand for our own community is up to. We put and allows for increased positions. The division of the question, shall be considered our faith in them to practice oversight National Counterterrorism Center is as read, and shall be separately debatable for and to produce a legislative product enhanced through improved informa- 30 minutes equally divided and controlled by that addresses the needs of our intel- tion sharing activities and collabora- the proponent and an opponent; and (3) one ligence community, and therefore our tion provisions. The bill improves motion to recommit with or without instruc- Nation. physical and technical infrastructure tions. The committee does an outstanding of intelligence agencies with new fa- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- job of working on a bipartisan basis to cilities. tleman from Florida (Mr. PUTNAM) is provide for our men and women who This authorization bill is a perfect recognized for 1 hour. are fighting the war on terror on a va- example of how Congress can achieve a Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, for the riety of fronts. bipartisan product that meets the purpose of debate only, I yield the cus- I want to take a moment to salute needs of our Nation. Again, I thank tomary 30 minutes to the gentleman those men and women who are working Chairman HOEKSTRA, Ranking Member from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS), pending around the globe in a variety of capac- HARMAN, and the members of the com- which I yield myself such time as I ities doing so much in a quiet, discreet mittee for their admirable work. I urge may consume. During consideration of way for our security and liberty. Lin- Members to support the rule and the this resolution, all time yielded is for guists, analysts, case officers, mathe- underlying bill. the purpose of debate only. maticians, and engineers, some of the Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of (Mr. PUTNAM asked and was given brightest minds that our Nation pro- my time. permission to revise and extend his re- duces, work in the intelligence commu- Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. marks, and include extraneous mate- nity taking, in many cases, an option Speaker, I yield myself such time as I rial.) that is not as generous as the private may consume. First, let me thank the Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, H. Res. sector may be if they were to put that gentleman from Florida (Mr. PUTNAM) 331 is a structured rule that provides intellect and those talents and skills for yielding me the time.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00025 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.051 H21PT1 H4830 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this international law. Surrounded by a them, forget about them, but certainly rule providing for the consideration of world of laws, treaties, norms and prac- not investigate them. It makes no dif- the Intelligence Authorization Act for tices, Guantanamo is an unrecogniz- ference whether such an inquiry takes fiscal year 2006. able entity, a small space where the place inside the Congress or outside the First, Mr. Speaker, let me remind my law simply does not penetrate. Congress, any form of independent in- colleagues that Members who wish to The prisoners are in judicial limbo, vestigation is out of the question. do so can go to the Intelligence Com- with limited access to lawyers and no But questions about the abuse and mittee office to examine the classified legal recourse to profess their guilt or torture of detainees simply will not go schedule of authorizations for the pro- innocence or to protect themselves away, whether it is Guantanamo or grams and activities of the intelligence from abuse. In fact, many of them have Abu Ghraib or the countless other pris- and intelligence-related activities of now been jailed for more than 3 years ons, jails and detention facilities under the national intelligence program. This without even having been charged with U.S. control in Afghanistan and Iraq. includes authorizations for the CIA as a crime. It sounds a bit Kafkaesque to Every week brings new revelations of well as the foreign intelligence and me. Requests from objective outside abuses. counterintelligence programs within, observers to examine the condition of Mr. Speaker, I do not blame our sol- among other things, the Department of the prisoners have been rebuffed time diers for these abuses. It is their lead- Defense, the National Security Agency, and again. The Bush administration ers who have failed. It is the leaders up the Departments of State, Treasury seems to trust in only itself to deter- and down the chain of command whose and Energy, and the FBI. Also included mine whether the prisoners are deserv- incompetence and arrogance have led in the classified documents are the au- ing of legal protections. to a systemic breakdown of standards thorizations for the tactical intel- I am disheartened by the intelligence and codes of conduct that our military ligence and related activities and joint authorization bill’s silence on this has lived by since its creation. military intelligence program of the matter. The Members of this body Mr. Speaker, I would like to read a Department of Defense. should be greatly concerned with the few lines from the June 13 edition of Today more than ever, we must make utter lack of respect for the law or ad- Newsweek. The article is entitled the creation of a strong and flexible in- herence to international agreements ‘‘Good Intentions Gone Bad.’’ In it, Rod telligence apparatus one of the highest that characterize Guantanamo Bay. Nordland, Newsweek’s Baghdad bureau priorities of this body. The terrorist at- Former Supreme Court Justice Louis chief, who is departing after 2 years in tacks of September 11, combined with Brandeis once said, ‘‘If the government Iraq, shares a few final thoughts. He the continuing threat of further at- becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds con- writes: tacks, underscore the importance of tempt for law.’’ ‘‘Two years ago I went to Iraq as an this legislation, and I am pleased that Congress has a responsibility to pre- unabashed believer in toppling Saddam it has been brought to the floor before vent Guantanamo Bay from becoming Hussein. I knew his regime well from the July 4 recess. the personal prison of convenience for previous visits. WMDs or no, ridding Now, Mr. Speaker, while I generally the Bush administration to stash peo- the world of Saddam would surely be support this bill, it is not closed to im- ple it does not want to suffer legal for the best, and America’s good inten- provements. As the Democrats noted in rights to. This body would be greatly tions would carry the day. What went our additional views, this bill is the remiss if we shucked that responsi- wrong? A lot, but the biggest turning first authorization bill to be considered bility in favor of turning a blind eye to point was the Abu Ghraib scandal. since the Intelligence Reform and Ter- what very well might be the biggest Since April 2004, the liberation of Iraq rorism Prevention Act of 2004 became terrorism recruitment tool since the has become a desperate exercise in law last December. The reforms under- attacks on September 11. damage control. The abuse of prisoners taken last year, in the aftermath of Mr. Speaker, as I have said, this bill at Abu Ghraib alienated a broad swath two intelligence failures, created a Di- provides authorizations and appropria- of the Iraqi public. On top of that, it rector of National Intelligence and dra- tions for some of the most important didn’t work. There is no evidence that matically reshaped the intelligence national security programs in this all the mistreatment and humiliation community. This authorization bill country. With the adoption of the man- saved a single American life or led to will therefore help define the authori- ager’s amendment, which we will hear the capture of any major terrorist, de- ties, priorities, and direction of the Di- about in much greater detail presently, spite claims by the military that the rector of National Intelligence and the I look forward to supporting the bill’s prison produced actionable intel- entire intelligence community. ultimate passage. ligence. The most shocking thing about Mr. Speaker, I am pleased that the Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to Abu Ghraib was not the behavior of committee rejected the President’s pal- yield 3 minutes to the distinguished U.S. troops but the incompetence of try request for counterterrorism fund- gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. their leaders.’’ ing and, instead, fully funded the intel- MCGOVERN), my colleague with whom I Mr. Speaker, this is why we should be ligence community’s needs. Fully fund- serve on the Rules Committee. debating the Waxman amendments. We ing counterterrorism represents bipar- Mr. MCGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I rise cannot run and hide from this abuse. It tisanship and good public policy. Of in opposition to this rule. haunts us, Mr. Speaker. It haunts us. If course, this does not seem to be the Mr. Speaker, on June 8, the gen- ever a matter needed the light of day, first time that this administration tleman from California (Mr. WAXMAN), it is this one. does not heed the advice of its own in- the ranking member on the Committee Oppose this rule. Support debate on telligence experts, but I digress. on Government Reform, came before the Waxman amendments. Restore Let me speak also briefly about the the Committee on Rules asking that America’s credibility on human rights fact that this bill and the report ac- two amendments be made in order. One and military conduct. companying it are pretty much silent amendment calls for a select com- Mr. Speaker, I submit for the RECORD on one of the most salient issues of the mittee to be established in Congress to articles from Newsweek and from the day, our military prison at Guanta- investigate abuses of detainees held Baltimore Sun. namo Bay, Cuba. The allegations of se- under U.S. military custody. The other [From Newsweek, Jun. 13, 2005] vere human rights abuses at Guanta- amendment establishes an independent GOOD INTENTIONS GONE BAD namo Bay are at best extremely dis- commission for the same purpose. turbing and at worst unforgivable sins Mr. Speaker, these are matters that (By Rod Norland) of our Nation, which has always led the merit the attention of this House and Two years ago I went to Iraq as an un- fight for human rights. I do not work deserve to be debated and voted upon abashed believer in toppling Saddam Hus- there, so I cannot speak to the veracity by the Members of this body. But the sein. I knew his regime well from previous visits; WMDs or no, ridding the world of Sad- of every single allegation. But I do majority party on the Rules Com- dam would surely be for the best, and Amer- know that Guantanamo Bay is a mittee feels otherwise. The Republican ica’s good intentions would carry the day. stealth prison, an unrecognizable blip leadership believes it is better to sweep What went wrong? A lot, but the biggest on the radar screen of domestic and these matters under the rug, hide turning point was the Abu Ghraib scandal.

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There is no evi- can we afford to leave behind?’’ All I can say Consider this: Since December 2002, 108 peo- dence that all the mistreatment and humil- is this: last one out, please turn on the ple have died in U.S. custody, according to iation saved a single American life or led to lights. Pentagon figures. Of these deaths, no less the capture of any major terrorist, despite than 28 were criminal homicides, the Defense claims by the military that the prison pro- [From the Baltimore Sun, June 5, 2005] Department acknowledges. The victims were duced ‘‘actionable intelligence.’’ CLOSE CAMP DELTA tortured to death. The most shocking thing about Abu Ghraib (By Michael Posner) An official investigation into the cases of was not the behavior of U.S. troops, but the two young men who were beaten to death at For many around the world, the detention incompetence of their leaders. Against the a U.S.-run facility in Bagram, Afghanistan, facility at the U.S. Naval Base at Guanta- conduct of the Lynndie Englands and the revealed that more than two dozen soldiers namo Bay, Cuba, has become one of the most Charles Graners, I’ll gladly set the honesty were involved in these deaths. The interroga- prominent, negative symbols of America’s and courage of Specialist Joseph Darby, the tors, believe that they could deviate from young MP who reported the abuse. A few sol- departure from the rule of law since 9/11. Camp Delta, as the prison on Guantanamo the well-tested rules because, as one said, diers will always do bad things. that’s why ‘‘there was the Geneva Conventions for you need competent officers, who know what is called, holds more than 520 men from about 40 countries. Many of these people enemy prisoners of war, but nothing for ter- the men and women under their command rorists.’’ are capable of—and make sure it doesn’t hap- have been detained there for more than three Despite its benefits, the prospect of Guan- pen. years; none has been given any indication of Living and working in Iraq, it’s hard not to when, or even if, he will be released. The U.S. tanamo being closed any time soon is un- succumb to despair. At last count America government has classified all of the detain- likely. Last week, Vice President Dick Che- has pumped at least $7 billion into recon- ees as ‘‘enemy combatants.’’ ney said of the prison: ‘‘What we’re doing struction projects, with little to show for it While the term is not recognized in inter- down there has, I think, been done perfectly but the hostility of ordinary Iraqis, who still national human rights or humanitarian law, appropriately.’’ And yet, the vice president’s have an 18 percent unemployment rate. Most it has provided the U.S. government with a assertion files in the face of leaked FBI and of the cash goes to U.S. contractors who rationale for denying detainees any rights International Red Cross reports as well as spend much of it on personal security. Basic whatsoever, either under the Geneva Conven- comments by a former U.S. military trans- services like electricity, water and sewers tions (the laws of war) or U.S. criminal law. lator who published his observations of de- still aren’t up to prewar levels. Electricity is This situation has prompted some Bush ad- tainee mistreatment and sexual humiliation. especially vital in a country where summer ministration officials to dub Guantanamo What can be done when there is such a dis- temperatures commonly reach 125 degrees ‘‘the legal equivalent of outer space.’’ This crepancy between the facts and the official Fahrenheit. Yet only 15 percent of Iraqis label would also apply to the dozens of secret interpretation of them? In a democracy, the have reliable electrical service. In the cap- U.S. detention sites in Iraq, Afghanistan, best way to deal with this is openness: Con- ital, where it counts most, it’s only 4 per- Pakistan and Jordan and aboard ships at sea. gress should authorize the creation of an cent. But just as Guantanamo has become a independent, bipartisan commission to con- The most powerful army in human history powerful negative symbol, it has the poten- duct a thorough investigation of U.S. deten- can’t even protect a two-mile stretch of tial to be a positive one if the United States tion and interrogation policies worldwide. road. The Airport Highway connects both the is willing to take steps to recognize the pos- This would allow the United States to assess international airport and Baghdad’s main sibility. One step, and it is a bold one, would what went wrong and why and to recommend American military base, Camp Victory, to be to shut down the Guantanamo prison—to corrective action. the city center. At night U.S. troops secure close its doors and, in doing so, open a public Until Congress does this, Guantanamo and the road for the use of dignitaries; they close debate among members of Congress, military the other U.S. detention centers will con- it to traffic and shoot at any unauthorized officers and intelligence and law enforce- tinue to serve as the symbol of America’s vehicles. More troops and more helicopters ment leaders on interrogation and detention tarnished reputation. could help make the whole country safe. In- practices around the world. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. stead the Pentagon has been drawing down Shuttering Guantanamo not only would Speaker, I am pleased and privileged to allow the United States to broadcast to the the number of helicopters. And America yield 4 minutes to the gentlewoman never deployed nearly enough soldiers. They world its commitment to the rule of law—by couldn’t stop the orgy of looting that fol- moving all security detainees into an estab- from California (Ms. HARMAN), the dis- lowed Saddam’s fall. Now their primary mis- lished legal process—it also would serve tinguished ranking member of the Per- sion is self-defense at any cost—which only America’s security interests. Those around manent Select Committee on Intel- deepens Iraqis’ resentment. the world who use the symbol of Guanta- ligence. The four-square-mile Green Zone, the one namo to fuel anti-American sentiments (Ms. HARMAN asked and was given place in Baghdad where foreigners are rea- would lose one of their most potent rallying permission to revise and extend her re- sonably safe, could be a showcase of Amer- cries. And autocratic governments no longer marks.) ican values and abilities. Instead the Amer- would be able to hide behind American’s ex- ican enclave is a trash-strewn wasteland of ample, as they do now, in justifying their Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I com- Mad Max-style fortifications. The traffic own practices of indefinite detention and mend the gentleman for yielding me lights don’t work because no one has both- abuse. this time and for his service both on ered to fix them. The garbage rarely gets col- The closing of Guantanamo would, by its the Rules Committee and on the Intel- lected. Some of the worst ambassadors in very nature, require an evaluation of all the ligence Committee, and I thank the U.S. history are the GIs at the Green Zone’s locations where the United States is holding gentleman from Florida (Mr. PUTNAM) checkpoints. They’ve repeatedly punched security prisoners because Guantanamo de- as well for his comments earlier in this Iraqi ministers, accidentally shot at visiting rives much of its infamy from what it has dignitaries and behave (even on good days) wrought: Guantanamo was the testing debate. with all the courtesy of nightclub bouncers— ground for coercive interrogation tech- Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to to Americans and Iraqis alike. Not that U.S. niques. Torture was exported to other facili- oppose the previous question so that soldiers in Iraq have much to smile about. ties from there. we can have a debate on the Waxman They’re overworked, much ignored on the In the spring of 2003, Defense Secretary amendment. Yesterday, we had an open home front and widely despised in Iraq, with Donald H. Rumsfeld explicitly approved 24 rule for the Defense Appropriations Act little to look forward to but the distant end interrogation techniques for Guantanamo, which funds the intelligence commu- of their tours—and in most cases, another including ‘‘dietary manipulation,’’ ‘‘environ- nity. I fail to see why we cannot have tour soon to follow. Many are reservists who, mental manipulation,’’ ‘‘sleep adjustment’’ when they get home, often face the wreckage and ‘‘isolation,’’ all of which has been pre- an open rule for the authorization bill of careers and family. viously prohibited by U.S. law and explicit for those same intelligence programs. I I can’t say how it will end. Iraq now has an military policy. He did so despite strenuous also think it is sad that the leadership elected government, popular at least among objections from senior military lawyers, the scheduled consideration of this author- Shiites and Kurds, who give it strong ap- FBI and others in the government. This pol- ization bill after our vote on the appro- proval ratings. There’s even some hope that icy is still in place. priations bill. This makes little sense the Sunni minority will join the constitu- By mid-2003, the military extended the and erodes our ability to establish tional process. Iraqi security forces continue Guantanamo rules to Iraq. In fact, in August to get better trained and equipped. But 2003, the Pentagon sent the Guantanamo clear guidance for how money will be Iraqis have such along way to go, and there commander, Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, to spent. are so many ways for things to get even Abu Ghraib prison, reportedly with the in- Mr. Speaker, this rule should have worse. I’m not one of those who think Amer- struction to ‘‘Gitmo-ize’’ the Iraqi prisons. made in order all of the amendments

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:49 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00027 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.016 H21PT1 H4832 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 that were offered. Only 10 amendments [From the Washington Post, June 7, 2005] Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the words were submitted to the Rules Com- JUSTICE BEFORE POLITICS of the gentlewoman from California mittee. Of those, nine were offered by (By Floyd Abrams, Bob Barr and Thomas (Ms. HARMAN) and the gentleman from Democrats, and of those nine, only one Pickering) Massachusetts (Mr. MCGOVERN) and the was made in order. Each amendment After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, came gentleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS) was responsible. Each deserves full con- widespread shock and horror—and some as it relates to these issues. It reflects sideration on the House floor. Members tough questions. Could the United States a legitimate disagreement over the di- on both sides of the aisle should have have prevented this catastrophe? What cor- rection that this investigation should an opportunity to debate the impor- rective action might we take to protect our- take, whether it should be based in the tant issues raised by these amend- selves from other terrorist attacks? legislative branch or based in the exec- After political struggles and initial resist- ments, but as a result of this unneces- ance by many political leaders, Congress and utive branch or some combination, sarily restrictive rule, neither Repub- the president created the Sept. 11 commis- which has been the history. licans nor Democrats will have that op- sion in 2002. This bipartisan group of 10 In fact, here in our own Congress, the portunity. prominent Americans was charged with con- Senate has had eight hearings on de- Mr. Speaker, I want to highlight one ducting an independent and complete inves- tainee abuse, and three on Abu Ghraib amendment that the Rules Committee tigation of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 specifically. General Myers, the chair- will not let us debate, the Waxman and with providing recommendations for pre- man of the Joint Chiefs; the Chief of amendment to establish an inde- venting such disasters. In July 2004 the com- Staff of the Army; the Secretary of De- mission released its report, and in December pendent commission on detainee issues. Congress passed legislation to implement fense; and the Acting Secretary of the Detentions and interrogations are vital many of its recommendations. Army have all conducted independent tools. We need those tools. But they In the spring of 2004, the scandal involving reviews. There are 12 other Department must take place according to our laws the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib became of Defense reviews that have occurred, and our values. To do anything less public. Additional allegations of abuse sur- and the House Committee on Armed puts our own troops in harm’s way and faced in connection with prisoners detained Services in this body has held three erodes our moral credibility in the by the United States at Guantanamo Bay, hearings and numerous briefings. world. Cuba, and elsewhere. Many Americans asked The legislative branch has been dili- themselves the same painful questions about gent in their oversight responsibility. Today, our intelligence professionals these allegations: How could such terrible operate in what I call a ‘‘fog of law,’’ a actions have taken place? Who was respon- And I appreciate that there are dif- confusing patchwork of laws, treaties, sible? What reforms might we implement to ferences on this, but I particularly ap- memos and policies. The Intelligence prevent such problems? Once again, a year preciate the way that my colleagues on Committee’s oversight subcommittee later, these questions remain unanswered. the other side of the aisle have handled is conducting a serious bipartisan in- We believe that the American public de- this. Unlike in the Senate where the vestigation into the practice of ren- serves answers. We are members of the bipar- detainee abuse was equated with the ditions and interrogations under the tisan Liberty and Security Initiative of the regime of Pol Pot and Hitler and Sta- Constitution Project, which is based at lin, there is a measured approach to able leadership of the gentleman from Georgetown University’s Public Policy Insti- Texas (Mr. THORNBERRY) and the gen- tute. We have joined with other members of disagreement in this Chamber, and I tleman from Alabama (Mr. CRAMER). the initiative—Republicans and Democrats, think that that is the responsible ap- But this investigation is largely classi- liberals and conservatives—to call for the es- proach, unlike the direction that the fied. We also need a public unclassified tablishment of an independent bipartisan Senate has gone. To equate Guanta- investigation so that the public can commission to investigate the issue of abuse namo Bay with regimes that murdered have confidence that our Constitution of terrorist suspects. We urge Congress and millions of people is absurd, and it is and our laws are respected. A public bi- the president to immediately create such a dangerous, and it gives aid and comfort commission and to use the Sept. 11 commis- to the enemy. partisan investigation will help us sion as a model. learn precisely what happened, who No investigation completed to date has in- As the chairman of the Committee on should be accountable at senior as well cluded recommendations on how mistreat- Armed Services in this body pointed as operational levels, and how to fix ment at detention facilities might be avoid- out, detainees in Guantanamo are pro- the problems. ed. Even the Pentagon’s much-heralded re- vided their own prayer rugs. If that port by Vice Adm. Albert T. Church, com- were done in the public school system, b 1315 pleted in March, concluded only that there it would be against the law. They are Mr. Speaker, I will enter into the were ‘‘missed opportunities in the policy de- called to prayer five times a day. If RECORD an op-ed from the June 7 Wash- velopment process’’ and that these opportu- that were done on the average high nities ‘‘should be considered in the develop- ington Post by civil rights attorney school intercom system, it would be a Floyd Abrams, former Representative ment of future interrogation policies.’’ Establishing an independent, bipartisan violation of the law. They are fed three Bob Barr, and Ambassador Tom Pick- commission would also be beneficial for U.S. nutritious meals per day at an average ering, which called for the creation of relationships abroad. The abuse of terrorist of $12 per detainee per day. If we multi- an independent commission. They suspects in U.S. custody has undermined the plied what we spend on the school wrote: ‘‘Only with such a commission United States’ position in the world. This is lunch program times three meals, they are we likely to enact the reforms a time when we should be making extra ef- would be receiving less than a detainee needed to restore our credibility among forts to reach out to Muslims and to ask in Guantanamo Bay. the nations of the world.’’ them to work with us in the war against ter- And because of the ongoing judicial I agree. Shutting off the lights at rorism. Instead, our failure to undertake a thorough and credible investigation has cre- review that our government is engaged Guantanamo will not solve the prob- ated severe resentment of the United States. in with those detainees, at the end of lem. Only Congress can solve the prob- An independent bipartisan investigation that process, 234 detainees so far have lem by addressing the policies under- can generate widespread acceptance and sup- been released from Guantanamo. And lying Guantanamo. Article I, section 8 port for its findings. Only with such a com- to show their great gratitude, at least of the Constitution states that it is mission are we likely to enact the reforms a dozen of them have been identified as Congress’s responsibility to make rules needed to restore our credibility among the returning to the fight against Amer- concerning captures on land and water, nations of the world. ican servicemen and -women. and that is why, in addition to calling We must move beyond the partisan battles of our highly charged political climate. To I think that it is important that we for this independent commission, I be- provide a credible investigation and a plan keep those facts in mind, as well, as we lieve we need bipartisan legislation. for corrective action, and to show the world move through this debate. The safety of our troops and our moral that the United States takes seriously its Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of credibility in the world are on the line. obligations to uphold the rule of law, we my time. I urge my colleagues to oppose this urge Congress and the president to establish Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. restrictive rule and the previous ques- a commission to investigate abuse of ter- Speaker, I yield myself such time as I tion. rorist suspects. may consume. The material previously referred to is Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield Before yielding to the gentleman as follows: myself such time as I may consume. from California (Mr. WAXMAN), I would

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:49 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00028 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.058 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4833 just say to my friend from Florida that lack of oversight leads to a lack of ac- of the resources to have an effective in- this judicial review that he talks about countability, and no accountability telligence community. We have made evidently is going to take place for- breeds arrogance and abuse of power. important decisions as to the relative ever. Over the past year, more and more balance between HUMINT and our It is not about food, Mr. Speaker. instances of detainee abuse from a technical capabilities. We have made The detainees are properly fed. But growing number of locations around important decisions about the direc- they cannot see their relatives. Most of the world have come to light. In just tion of our technical capabilities, and them cannot see a lawyer, and most of the past few weeks, new evidence we have done it on a bipartisan basis. them have not been told what they are emerged of the desecration of the This bill came out of committee with charged with. When I say it is Kafka- Koran at Guantanamo Bay; the in- a voice vote. It shows the continued esque, Franz Kafka wrote the book volvement of Navy Seals in beating de- commitment of the House to support ‘‘The Trial’’ that said how horrible it tainees in Iraq; and the gruesome, ulti- the global war on terrorism and our was to be in a situation where one does mately fatal torture of Afghans at the troops deployed abroad. We attempted not know their accusers, they do not U.S. detention center at Bagram Air- this year to keep ancillary issues out know what they are charged with, and base in Afghanistan. It is time for this of the bill, to focus the full attention of they are convicted of something in sit- House to put aside political calcula- the committee on careful oversight and ting there. We cannot do that in this tions and fulfill our constitutional review of our Nation’s intelligence pro- country. It is not about food. It is oversight responsibilities. grams. Our goal was to properly align about rights. It is about human rights Let me just point out to my col- the resources of those programs to and dignity. leagues that we have not had an inves- counter the threats facing our Nation. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the tigation since Abu Ghraib. The House I appreciate the efforts of the Com- distinguished gentleman from Cali- held only 5 hours of public hearings in mittee on Rules to keep floor debate fornia (Mr. WAXMAN), ranking member the Committee on Armed Services to similarly focused on the programs that of the Committee on Government Re- investigate the abuses. In contrast, the are authorized in the bill and related form. House spent 140 hours taking witness issues. Again, we are setting a strategic di- Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Speaker, it has testimony to examine whether Presi- rection for where we think the intel- been over a year since we saw the hor- dent Clinton mishandled his Christmas ligence community needs to go. There rific photographs of the torture of the card list. What is more important for will be some changes that were made prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. the use of oversight and investigative as a result of the rule that we will vote Yet in Congress, we have ignored our powers of the House? on in the next few minutes, and these fundamental responsibility to inves- While the Senate review has been again were an attempt to make sure tigate this issue. And it is not just Abu more extensive, it has not involved that there was not confusion about Ghraib, but other prison camps as well comprehensive public review of all rel- what direction we wanted to go in, where we are hearing more and more evant agencies and personnel, nor has what we wanted to get done, and make reports of instances of disrespect of the it produced comprehensive conclusions sure that the underlying direction for Koran and denial of human rights to regarding individual accountability the reform of the intelligence commu- detainees. and necessary corrective actions. nity was the bill that was signed into Under our system of checks and bal- We must do our job. We need to ex- ances, the House of Representatives law by the President last December. amine these allegations and take our I will say that I agree with some of has a constitutional duty to ensure oversight responsibilities seriously. I my colleagues on the other side. My proper oversight of the executive urge a ‘‘no’’ vote on the rule. ranking member said it is the responsi- branch, and for this reason I submitted Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield bility of Congress to do its work. Con- an amendment to this bill to create ei- myself such time as I may consume. gress will do its work. We have been ther a select committee of the House of Unquestionably, Congress’s responsi- doing our work. We have had a bipar- Representatives to examine the matter bility to properly oversee the activities tisan, constructive effort, led by the or an independent commission to con- of the entire Federal Government is gentleman from Texas (Mr. THORN- duct such an investigation. But the Re- preeminent, and that is why I am BERRY) and the gentleman from Ala- publican leadership blocked both proud that, under the leadership of the bama (Mr. CRAMER), to take a look at amendments. They do not want an in- gentleman from California (Chairman the allegations that are out there. We vestigation inside the House or outside HUNTER), they have had hearings. In have been investigating these issues. by an independent group. The inde- the Senate they have had hearings. My colleague here says we have not pendent commission, I believe, would And today, as we speak, the House Per- been doing any work. My colleague has have filled this huge oversight vacuum. manent Select Committee on Intel- not done the basics. He maybe could It was denied, and that is why I am in ligence also has an oversight sub- have asked, has the Permanent Select opposition to the previous question on committee devoted to investigating all Committee on Intelligence on the the rule and the rule itself. of these issues. House side done anything to take a The reports of detainee abuse are un- Mr. Speaker, to elaborate on that, I look at the alleged allegations or the dermining one of our Nation’s most yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from abuses at Guantanamo, the intel- valuable assets, our reputation and re- Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA), the distin- ligence community’s relationships to spect for human rights. And they are guished chairman of that committee. Abu Ghraib? I think my ranking mem- endangering our Armed Forces and in- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I ber on the other side has said that we citing hatred against the United thank my colleague for yielding me have had a constructive, bipartisan ef- States. As Senator BIDEN said, Guanta- this time. fort to take a look at the allegations, namo is the ‘‘greatest propaganda tool Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the to take a look at the role of the intel- for the recruitment of terrorists world- rule. And before I move on to address ligence community, and to take a look wide.’’ some of the discussion that has been on at how we move forward on these types Some of the allegations that have the floor today, let me talk about some of things. But sometimes people do not been replayed over and over again of the issues in the rule; and I think even want to raise the basic questions around the world may not be true. later on we will have an opportunity to and get the basic information that President Bush calls them ‘‘absurd.’’ talk about what may be unusual in this they need. But we will not know what is true and bill. These are serious issues. The infor- what is not true unless we investigate. But as my colleagues on the other mation that the folks may have in And when we refuse to conduct thor- side today may try to destroy, we have Guantanamo may save American lives. ough, independent investigations, the developed a bill that will set a direc- It will make our war on terror more ef- rest of the world thinks we have some- tion for the intelligence community fective. thing to hide. When we ignore our con- and we have done it in a bipartisan Should these allegations be inves- stitutional obligations, we are not way. We have checked the issues as to tigated? Absolutely. Are they being in- doing the administration any favor. A whether the bill is sufficient in terms vestigated? Absolutely. And members

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00029 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.060 H21PT1 H4834 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 on the Permanent Select Committee United States by making such an as- ing Intelligence subcommittee reviews on Intelligence know that that work sertion. This is not how America be- of what is going on there. has been going on, and it has been came the Shining City on a Hill so ad- It is important that we step back and going on in a very constructive and a mired by people the world over. understand that this is an intelligence very effective method. No executive should be permitted the authorization bill that gives our men power to lock people up forever with- and women the tools they need to fight b 1330 out ever having to prove their guilt. people around the world that we would I look forward to passing this bill That is a power that I would trust to not invite over for dinner; people who today. I look forward to this com- no man, no king, no dictator, and no would do everything in their power to mittee continuing the work that Con- President. bring down our society, our form of gress has asked it to do, and us going Let me say one other thing. Torture government, our cloak of safety. Let us back and doing it in an effective way, and abuse of prisoners is not just a keep those things in mind when we go to make sure that we will have an ef- shameful violation of human rights, it forward with this debate about Guanta- fective intelligence community. It is does not work. People under torture namo and Abu Ghraib. time to stop bashing our troops and our will say anything. Intelligence profes- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of intelligence community. These people sionals know better than to believe or my time. put their lives on the line every day. It to rely on information extracted under Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. is time to show them some support. torture. Torture and abuse of detainees Speaker, I yield myself such time as I Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance is wrong for so many reasons. It is a may consume. of my time. horrendous practice, it produces noth- Just one thing for my friend from Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. ing but shame and more enemies for Florida: Charge it and prove it. That is Speaker, at this time I am pleased to the United States, and anger from the all. This is a great Nation. We can yield 2 minutes to my friend and class- rest of the world. charge those folks with a crime, and we mate, the gentleman from New York We need to aggressively investigate can prove that they did what the gen- (Mr. NADLER). these abuses and put safeguards and tleman said. Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, I rise to policies into place to prevent them Mr. Speaker, I am pleased at this oppose this restrictive rule for not from ever happening again. point to yield 3 minutes to the distin- making in order the Waxman amend- Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield guished gentleman from California ment to provide for an investigation by myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. GEORGE MILLER), the ranking a bipartisan, independent commission Perhaps we should remind the gen- member of the Committee on Edu- of the detainee abuses alleged at Abu tleman of some of the 545 people who cation and the Workforce. Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, and other are being detained in Guantanamo; 545, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. sites. by the way, is fewer people than are in Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this Let me say at the outset that the my county’s jail on a Saturday night. rule. men and women in our armed services But of those 545 people who killed in- We have been led to believe that the ought to be praised for their selfless nocent women and children, they in- use of torture in Iraq, Afghanistan, and sacrifices. They deserve not to have cluded a detainee named Katani who Guantanamo Bay, Cuba were isolated their names and their good works asso- was stopped before he could board one incidents; that murder, sexual assault, ciated with the torture and abuse that of the planes used to strike the World and physical abuse were the work of a has been alleged in newspapers and Trade Center and the Pentagon, or tak- few low-ranking guards who are now other reports. That is why it is so im- ing care of Osama bin Laden’s body being brought to justice. portant to have a complete and full in- guards, other members of al Qaeda and The new evidence indicates we have vestigation and to receive assurances other terrorist networks and members been misled. that torture and abuse are not stand- of the Taliban. These are not your av- Recent news accounts have detailed ard operating procedure in our armed erage, run-of-the-mill pick-pockets and the deaths of two detainees in 2002 at forces, even if torture was authorized thieves. They are hardened terrorists the Bagram Collection Point in Af- by Secretary Rumsfeld and Attorney who have pledged everything to de- ghanistan during interrogation by General Gonzales. It is not authorized stroy American service men and military intelligence. One man was by Congress or by the American people women, to come into our homeland and hung by his arms in his jail cell for who ultimately get to have the final wreak havoc and cause mayhem and days and beaten so severely in the legs say. cause death and destruction within that he died, even though, as the news- It also bothers me that these detain- these borders of the United States of papers reported, soldiers involved in ees do not have any way of asserting America. They are being monitored. the detention believed that the man their innocence. The President says They are under ongoing judicial re- was innocent. they are all terrorists, but what if view. The eyes of the world, as this de- Despite being ruled homicide by the some of them were cases of mistaken bate has evidenced, are on Guanta- coroners, the deaths were described by identity? What if some of them had namo. a military spokesman as resulting from nothing to do with terrorism? What if These are individuals who represent natural causes. In the meantime, the they have a similar name or a similar the very worst in our global society officer was promoted and placed in appearance, but are indeed factually who would do anything to bring us charge of interrogations in Iraq’s Abu innocent of all charges? harm. Yet we seem to lose all of that Ghraib Prison. It seems to me that if the govern- perspective in this very dramatic, the- But this story is not about low-rank- ment is so sure that everyone we are atrical debate that began in the Senate ing soldiers who independently ran holding is a terrorist, there should be when there was an equation of Guanta- afoul of the system; it is not a matter no trouble convincing a court, a judge, namo with the regimes of Stalin and of a few bad apples. It is one tale in or a military court. That would be Hitler and Pol Pot which resulted in what is emerging to be a pattern of preferable to having the government the torture and mutilation and death systematic abuse carried out with the assert that all of these people are ter- of millions of human beings. And for knowledge and approval of senior mili- rorists, just trust us. We cannot allow this similar equation to be made on the tary and civilian officials. that type of abuse of power to continue House floor that we, in our activities in How do we know that the Defense De- in our name. Guantanamo, are even remotely close partment and senior military com- This assertion of the right to hold to those regimes is out of bounds. manders knew what was going on? Be- people forever, with no specific evi- There have been numerous Depart- cause their own documents say so. dence and no due process, has not been ment of Defense investigations into de- Their own documents show that the asserted in an English-speaking coun- tainee abuse, numerous House Com- general in charge of our troops in Af- try since before Magna Carta, 800 years mittee on Armed Services hearings on ghanistan knew that unapproved tech- ago, until this President had the nerve detainee abuse, Senate committee niques were being used in those inter- to besmirch the good name of the hearings on detainee abuse, and ongo- rogatories. So what did he do? He made

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00030 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.063 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4835 a list of these techniques and sent terrogators didn’t believe one of the men was tleman, out of his sense of concern them to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who involved in terrorism, but had beaten him to about torture, would cover those bad were looking for ways to alter interro- death—allegedly by accident—anyway. apples, those bad actors, and the ac- gations in Guantanamo Bay. Now, Amnesty International U.S.A. has re- tions that are being taken against leased a scathing report calling the U.S. In fact, the only time the general in Navy Base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, ‘‘the them. charge of U.S. forces in Afghanistan gulag of our times.’’ The report’s authors ac- Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the seems to have issued any written pol- cuse Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, At- gentleman from Florida (Mr. MICA). icy is when he recommended that the torney General Alberto Gonzales and other Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Geneva Convention techniques be re- top U.S. officials of being ‘‘architects of tor- gentleman for yielding me this time. moved for everyone, regardless of ture.’’ I rise in opposition to any further in- whether or not they were tied to al The human rights watchdog organization vestigation of either what is taking Qaeda or the Taliban. called on foreign governments to use inter- place at Guantanamo Bay with our de- So let me sum it up. Advanced tor- national law to investigate U.S. officials for tainees or further investigation of Abu their abuse of detainees accused of having ture techniques were developed and terrorist ties. Ghraib. used in Afghanistan and resulted in the Meanwhile, the Associated Press has ob- I want to speak about Guantanamo deaths of multiple detainees. The tained 1,000 pages of U.S. government tri- first, because I heard some of the re- deaths were covered up and the inves- bunal transcripts under a Freedom of Infor- ports when we first brought detainees tigations were stalled. The techniques mation Act lawsuit that offers chilling, first- there, and I went down and visited. I were shared with the interrogators at hand accounts of alleged prisoner abuse. In walked among the prisoners, I saw the Guantanamo Bay and then spread to one case, a Guantanamo Bay prisoner told a housing, I saw how they were treated. I Iraq where the same people responsible military panel that American soldiers had was asked what I thought when I saw beaten him so badly, he now wets his pants. the whole thing, and I want to use my for the deaths in Afghanistan were put Vice President Dick Cheney insists that in charge of the Abu Ghraib prison. the prisoners are ‘‘peddling lies’’ and that quote here on the floor. I said, ‘‘I From Afghanistan to Guantanamo to the Guantanamo detainees have been ‘‘well- thought it was too good for the bas- Abu Ghraib, torture, lies, and coverup. treated, treated humanely and decently.’’ tards.’’ This is not an accident, this is a pat- President Bush blasted the Amnesty report I stand here today appalled at my tern of abuse. Tuesday, calling it ‘‘absurd.’’ colleagues who, in fact, are concerned I want to enter into the RECORD an Yet, It is quite unsettling that prisoners in about the rights of mass murderers. editorial from my hometown paper on Guantanamo, Afghanistan and Iraq have told And that is exactly what we have here. strikingly similar stories. We have international mass murderers, this. Bush administration officials’ unapolog- That is why I join my colleagues in etic defense of military conduct at Guanta- enemy combatants. They had no con- calling for the creation of an inde- namo and other U.S. military prisons—in the sideration, in support of a regime, the pendent commission on detainee abuse. face of mounting evidence of serious prob- al Qaeda regime and Osama bin Laden, The leadership in the House and, more lems—is symptomatic of its increasingly fa- who slaughtered thousands of people on specifically, the chairman of the Com- miliar refusal to acknowledge mistakes and our soil, and many of whom were both mittee on Armed Services have proven take responsibility. This arrogant Americans and internationals. both negligent and incapable of dealing stonewalling must not be allowed, especially What right did they respect of Bar- with this issue as they have looked the when so much is at stake. bara Olson, who worked for our Com- The well-publicized mistreatment of Mus- mittee on Government Reform, whose other way and led the country to con- lim detainees at U.S.-run military prisons tinue to believe that this is only a few has severely damaged the United States’ rep- plane crashed into the Pentagon that bad apples, a few malcontents that utation abroad. It is the height of hypocrisy morning? And I remember Barbara. went about it the wrong way when, in to talk of spreading democracy while our What right did they respect of Neal fact, the evidence from our own De- government tramples all over individual Levin, who I met with at the World fense Department tells us differently civil liberties. In the United States, a person Trade Centers, who was trapped, along and has irreparably damaged the rep- is innocent until proven guilty, yet Muslim with everyone who helped me and our utation of the United States, and has detainees are essentially guilty until proven Subcommittee on Aviation, who were innocent. Nearly 600 people have been held all murdered on the morning of Sep- cast doubt on our foreign policy, and it without charges. Up until a year ago, they is a new recruitment tool, as so many could not even challenge their detentions in tember 11 when they were in the Win- have commented, both in the intel- U.S. courts. The U.S. government had argued dows on the World restaurant? What ligence community and in the Con- that as foreigners on foreign soil, they had right did they defend of those people? gress, that raises the likelihood that no legal recourse, which is absurd as well as How quickly we forget September 11. U.S. troops captured by enemy combat- un-American. I am reading the book ‘‘102 Minutes.’’ I ants or terrorists will be killed or tor- It is high time that President Bush and wish everyone would read it, about the tured. It gives the radical opponents of Congress appoint a bipartisan panel to inves- thousands of people who were left tigate the allegations of abuse of terrorist trapped in the World Trade Center. the United States and the insurgents suspects. People on both sides of the ideolog- the fuel to feed the insurgency against ical spectrum have called for such a commis- What rights did these people who sup- U.S. soldiers and the new Iraqi Govern- sion, ranging from conservative former U.S. ported that activity exercise? ment. Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., to the Center for Abu Ghraib, if I hear one more thing The failure of this administration, American Progress on the left. about that and the actions of our mili- which so often demands accountability If, as Rumsfeld claims, released detainees tary folks; someone described ‘‘horrific of others to deal with this issue in an are a bunch of liars, the administration has torture.’’ I saw worse things at frater- honest and forthright fashion, under- nothing to hide. nity houses in college than what our mines our ability to implement the Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield troops were involved in. And to con- strategy for success in Iraq and Af- myself such time as I may consume. tinue the harassment. ghanistan and tears down our forces. Perhaps the gentleman, out of his The gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. SUSPICIOUS TREATMENT concern for torture, would read into ROS-LEHTINEN) brought into the Com- First, there were the sickening photos the RECORD the similar treatments, the mittee on International Relations two smuggled out of Abu Ghraib prison a year abuse, the torture, the behavior shown prisoners; one, I recall, was from Abu ago that shocked the world and fueled anti- Jessica Lynch. Perhaps the gentleman Ghraib. I did not see anyone from the American sentiment throughout the Middle would also read into the RECORD the other side there, I did not see anyone East. Then, there were allegations from pris- actions of the gentlemen who boarded from the press there when they de- oners recently freed from Guantanamo Bay American airplanes and crashed them scribed their treatment under Saddam that U.S. military guards had beaten false into the World Trade Center and the Hussein. Do my colleagues know how confessions out of them and desecrated the Pentagon. Perhaps, out of his sense of he dealt with overcrowding? He took Quran. Then. earlier this month, the New York Times reported that military interro- concern about torture, he would enter them out and slaughtered them. I did gators at a U.S. prison in Afghanistan had into the RECORD transcripts and videos not see anyone from the other side con- killed detainees during questioning, then of the beheadings that have been tak- cerned about the rights of those pris- tried to cover up the cause of death. The in- ing place in Iraq. Perhaps the gen- oners.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00031 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.065 H21PT1 H4836 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 One gentleman told us how he was beacon has been dimmed by the abuses what we found and what more we have taken from Abu Ghraib Prison; well, he that have been taking place. And the to do, one should never take that to described not only the beheadings, but best way to reclaim our credibility on mean that there is not serious over- the limb amputations, the pulling out this issue is to squarely face the facts sight and investigation ongoing, be- of tongues, the electrical shocks. How and those abuses. cause there is. dare anyone from the House or the We must lead by our example. We And, in fact, Mr. Speaker, I believe other body compare the treatment our must show we will not run from the that worldwide terrorism presents a troops afforded this scum of the earth? truth even when it is unpleasant. Only number of challenges to us. It is abso- What about an investigation of the by confronting the truth can we learn lutely true, as many of the speakers 300,000 mass graves that our troops from our mistakes. Only by examining have said, that we must maintain our have uncovered and the treatment that our own conduct can we credibly talk American values, and at the same time those people received. about the misconduct of others. Let us try to prevent acts of terrorism. Finally, again, that one prisoner, and show the world that a strong, com- Our problem is, when we just focus no one here bothered on the other side petent Nation does not run from or on one part of that equation, when we to even attend the meeting with the hide from the truth. Let us once again forget that the purpose here is to pre- prisoners to hear how Saddam Hussein lead by example. vent acts of terrorism, then I think we treated them. He described how he was Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I am become unbalanced, our rhetoric be- taken out, he and others, and they pleased to yield such time as he may comes more sensational, and unfortu- were all shot, and the bulldozer pushed consume to the gentleman from Texas nately I think the American people do over dirt on them; he was shot five (Mr. THORNBERRY), the seeker of that not benefit from such talk. times, and only managed to crawl away truth, the chairman of the oversight I can only say that with my partner, and somehow survive to tell how the subcommittee tasked with looking into the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. other side truly tortures. alleged abuse. CRAMER), and other members of the Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Speaker, I subcommittee, with our bipartisan b 1345 thank the gentleman from Florida for staff, we take our job very seriously. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. I am con- yielding and commend him on the han- And we will pursue that investigation vinced of some things: some of my col- dling of this rule, but also in helping us very seriously. And we will try to leagues just do not get it when it put this whole issue into greater con- make sure that American values are comes to human rights. text. maintained, and at the same time our Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to my Because, Mr. Speaker, I think it is troops, our homeland security folks, good friend, the gentleman from Mary- important for us to remind ourselves our policemen and others, have the in- land (Mr. VAN HOLLEN). that this bill contains a number of formation they need to keep us safe. Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Mr. Speaker, I things which try to help defend the We will keep both goals in mind. thank my colleague for yielding me country, try to help keep us all safer, Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. time. try to prevent gross inhumane acts of Speaker, I am very pleased to yield 2 Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose the rule slaughter by the terrorists, which we minutes to my good friend, the distin- with a very simple question: What is know they are intent upon commit- guished gentlewoman from California the House Republican leadership afraid ting. (Ms. LEE). of? We say we want to promote democ- And so I think it is important as we Ms. LEE. Mr. Speaker, I want to racy around the world. We say we want focus down on some of these specific thank the gentleman for his leadership to set a good example to others, and issues, and we should talk about them, and for yielding me this time. yet the House leadership seeks to block to keep the larger context in mind. The Mr. Speaker, I rise to engage today a vote today. That is what this argu- gentleman from Florida has helped to in a colloquy with the gentlewoman ment is about, a vote today on the do that. In a little bit, I want to talk from California (Ms. HARMAN), our Waxman amendment, which would sim- in greater length about the oversight ranking member of the Permanent Se- ply create an independent, bipartisan subcommittee, because I think it is im- lect Committee on Intelligence. And commission to investigate abuses at portant to say that the chairman of the let me first thank the gentlewoman for Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, and Intelligence Committee and the rank- her consistent leadership on so many other places around the world. ing member of the Intelligence Com- national security issues. Unfortunately, the only example we mittee, at the beginning of this Con- Let me just say briefly that I appre- seem to be setting these days is the ex- gress, decided to create a special over- ciate this opportunity to discuss an ample of the ostrich, to bury our heads sight subcommittee of the House Intel- issue very briefly that is of critical im- in the sand, to ignore the facts, to ig- ligence Committee. portance, that is, making sure that the nore the truth. And our charge is to focus at greater United States Government is not in- The Bush administration and my col- depth and with greater persistency on volved in violating the will of any peo- leagues on the other side of the aisle some of the key intelligence issues ple anywhere in the world which duly say that the reports of human rights which we face. And we take that job elects a government through demo- abuses at these facilities have been very seriously. And I think we can do cratic means. greatly exaggerated. Then what are the job very seriously, in part because In 1982, Congress passed the Boland they afraid of? The chairman of the In- we usually do not do our job in front of amendment, which prohibited the Fed- telligence Committee just says these the cameras. We do not do our job for eral Government from using taxpayer are serious issues. They are serious partisanship. dollars for the purpose of overthrowing issues. We do not come out on the floor, in the Government of Nicaragua. I offered We do not want quarter-truths; we do press conferences or in other places, an amendment to this intelligence au- not want half-truths. Let us get at the and try to bash the administration or thorization bill that broadens this con- full truth, the good, the bad and the to protect the administration. We try cept to ensure that our Federal intel- ugly. People around the world look to to be tough, but fair. And that is the ligence dollars are not used to support the United States, not just for the way that real oversight, particularly in groups or individuals engaged in efforts statements we make, but for the ac- the area of national security, ought to to overthrow democratically elected tions we take. And Americans have be done, rather than posturing and governments. Unfortunately it was not been shocked at the reports of abuses other things that we have seen from made in order. because they know these actions do not time to time. The problem is the work In an ideal world, we would not spe- reflect our values, and that is what you do in the Intelligence Committee cifically stipulate this, but events in this is about, our values. cannot be talked about openly. And so Haiti and more recently in Venezuela And they do not represent us as a there is very little one can say about have led me to wonder whether we need people. The United States throughout the specifics. to codify this straightforward, non- its history has been a great beacon of But just because we cannot come and partisan position. So I think that we human rights. And very sadly, that detail all of our activities and some of must do all we can not only to support

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House on record in support of a bipar- other body who compared American I would like to ask the gentlewoman tisan, independent investigation into fighting men and women to the Soviets from California (Ms. HARMAN) if she detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in with their gulags and the Third Reich has any thought about how we need to Iraq and the facility at Guantanamo and Pol Pot’s regime in Cambodia, one move forward, basically because I be- Bay. of the fundamental problems seems to lieve again, as I said earlier, that such Because there are known cases of be the willingness of many to equate actions fly in the face of our own demo- abuse, and there are more questions this with some sort of law enforcement cratic principles. than answers about the extent of abuse problem. It is not. Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, will the on people held by or for the United And to those who are expending such gentlewoman yield? States, we need to shine a very bright efforts and such rhetoric on behalf of Ms. LEE. I yield to the gentlewoman light on detainee treatment. Only when the alleged rights of enemies of this from California. we know the full scale of the problem country, let me remind you that the Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank will we be able to stop, prevent, and Constitution’s first three words are the gentlewoman for yielding. correct any wrongs that have been ‘‘We the people,’’ not ‘‘they the terror- I thank the gentlewoman for raising done in our country’s name. ists,’’ or ‘‘they the insurgents,’’ or this issue. I want to assure her that I And if it is true, as Vice President ‘‘they the accused.’’ understand and support the general CHENEY says, that the prisoners are In wartime the Constitution is a principle she has raised, and I believe peddling lies, then let us investigate mechanism for the survival of the Re- that we should be mindful of that prisoner treatment so that we have evi- public. And as Mr. Justice Jackson issue. dence and not just assertions. The pointed out years ago, the Constitution Ms. LEE. Mr. Speaker, I want to United States should be the standard is not a suicide pact. This need not be bearer of democracy, freedom and thank the gentlewoman for her com- a partisan controversy. One look only human rights throughout the world. ments and her attention to this issue. I so far as the History Channel as col- However, it has been over a year since look forward to working with her. umnist Thomas Sowell pointed out 2 the story broke about prisoner abuse at Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I am weeks ago. Do you know what hap- Abu Ghraib, and we have yet to con- pleased to yield 1 minute to the gen- pened at World War II to unfortunate duct a through independent investiga- tleman from California (Mr. DANIEL E. combatants; that is, those without rep- tion. LUNGREN.) resenting a nation state or wearing the Opening the door to an independent uniform or insignia of a military na- Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of Cali- investigation would be a major step to- fornia. Mr. Speaker, one of the pre- tion or state during World War II? ward returning our country’s standing When those unlawful combatants vious speakers said we just do not get as a moral leader. And to those who it. To him I would say, and to others, were apprehended, they were lined up would try to justify what we do by say- and shot. The Commander in Chief at yes, we do get it. ing, well, it is not as bad as those un- I came back to this body after 9/11 that time was Franklin Delano Roo- speakable beheadings or other things, sevelt. That was in adherence with the precisely because of the attack on well, I should certainly hope not, be- Americans and the loss of three people Geneva Convention. cause we are not like them. We are bet- We are in a war where people behead that I knew personally. I came back ter than them. We are the United here with the idea that we needed to Americans. It would be nice to see one- States of America. tenth of the passion on behalf of Amer- fight for America and defend ourselves And now, those who call on our coun- ican citizens that we see for the terror- and not tear up the Constitution in the try to uphold the rule of law and who ists and their alleged rights. Vote in process. reject becoming debased ourselves by favor of the rule. The suggestion made by some that conducting torture, they become the Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, how we are engaged in wide-scale torture, object of relentless criticism. Those pa- much time remains? that we are somehow morally equiva- triots who want to stand up to our val- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. lent with others is absolutely absurd. ues and our belief in the rule of law, we FLAKE). The gentleman from Florida The proper way for us to respond to al- are a proud and a great Nation blessed (Mr. PUTNAM) has 2 minutes remaining. legations is to do what the Congress is with immense freedom and with mili- The gentleman from Florida (Mr. supposed to do, and what the gen- tary personnel who proudly defend us. HASTINGS) has 11⁄2 minutes remaining. tleman from Texas (Mr. THORNBERRY) We should not fear the truth; we should Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. said we are about, which is the proper demand it with an independent inves- Speaker, I reserve the balance of my congressional oversight, not mock tigation. time. hearings like we had last week, not set- Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, the gen- Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 ting up independent commissions, not tlewoman is absolutely right when she minute to the gentleman from Georgia politicizing this, but doing it in the says we are better than them. She is (Mr. NORWOOD). way the Constitution requires us to do absolutely right when she says we are Mr. NORWOOD. Mr. Speaker, I want it. not equal to them. I hope she shares to take a second to speak to my friend If there is any problem, it is with the that thought with the senior Senator from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS), and he is Congress not doing proper oversight. from Illinois. my friend, but I think he is wrong We have the commitment from the Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the when he says human rights issues are committees and the subcommittees to gentleman from Arizona (Mr. something that we just do not get. do it. Let us rise above partisanship. HAYWORTH). Well, that is wrong. I think we do get Let us do the right thing, and let us get (Mr. HAYWORTH asked and was it. I think it is fairly clear to the Mem- rid of this nonsense of a moral equiva- given permission to revise and extend bers of this body, it is fairly clear to his remarks.) lency between the United States and the people of this country, that many Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, I have some of those terrible regimes around of you Democrats are very interested listened to this debate with interest. the world. It is not worthy of this body. And I rise in support of the rule and in in human rights of the prisoners down Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. support of a realistic foreign policy in Guantanamo Bay, people who would Speaker, I am very pleased to yield that some in this Chamber apparently kill your children, who would kill your such time as she may consume to the misunderstand. families and destroy your homes. And gentlewoman from Illinois (Ms. The actions of September 11, 2001, we are interested in getting informa- SCHAKOWSKY). were not criminal acts; they were acts tion in a reasonable manner from pris- Ms. SCHAKOWSKY. Mr. Speaker, I of war against this Nation. oners or terrorists in order to save the rise today in strong opposition to this lives of American people, to save the restrictive rule. b 1400 lives of our military. The gentleman from California (Mr. One of the fundamental problems So it is a simple matter. It comes WAXMAN) offered a reasonable amend- when you separate all the venom and down to whose side are you really on?

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00033 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.068 H21PT1 H4838 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Are you on the side of the terrorists so ligence authorization bill that gives sons, policies, procedures, reports, and you can be against President Bush, or our men and women around the world events, including but not limited to the fol- are you on the side of the American the tools and skill and support they lowing: people and the American families? need to win the war against terrorism (1) The Military Chain of Command. (2) The National Security Council. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. on our behalf, important new assets in (3) The Department of Justice. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of terms of technical capabilities, and a (4) The Department of State. my time. tremendous investment in the most (5) The Office of the White House Counsel. Mr. Speaker, I answer the gentleman important piece that we have in intel- (6) The Defense Intelligence Agency and from Georgia (Mr. NORWOOD), I am on ligence, which is those hardworking the Central Intelligence Agency. the side of the American people and I men and women who were called to (7) The approval process for interrogation am on the side of the rights that I be- public service. techniques used at detention facilities in lieve are principles inherent in our This is a fair rule. It allows for a Iraq, Cuba, and Afghanistan. (8) The integration of military police and United States Constitution and great deal more consideration of these military intelligence operations to coordi- throughout the United States Con- issues that we have already begun to nate detainee interrogation. stitution. discuss in terms of detainees and the (9) The roles and actions of private civilian I do not have time to yield to the role of American intelligence in our so- contractors in the abuses and whether they gentleman, otherwise I would. ciety and the tools that they need violated the Military Extraterritorial Juris- Make no mistake about it, most of us around the world. I encourage everyone diction Act or any other United States stat- feel as strongly as most of you do, and to support it and to support the under- utes and international treaties. I do not think that anybody here ought lying bill. (10) The role of nongovernmental organiza- question our patriotism. The material previously referred to tions’ warnings to United States officials about the abuses. This Nation is the greatest Nation on by Mr. HASTINGS of Florida is as fol- (11) The role of Congress and whether it this Earth, and we do not have to have lows: was fully informed throughout the process anything to fear. We do not have to PREVIOUS QUESTION ON H. RES. 331—RULE FOR that uncovered these abuses. have any worry about trying people H.R. 2475 INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT (12) The extent to which the United States who harm this Nation. FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006 complied with the applicable provisions of Mr. Speaker, I will be asking Mem- ‘‘In the resolution strike ‘‘and (3)’’ and in- the Geneva Conventions of 1949, and the ex- bers to oppose the previous question. If sert the following: tent to which the United States may have the previous question is defeated, I will ‘‘(3) the amendment printed in Section 2 of violated international law by restricting the modify this rule so we can consider the this resolution if offered by Representative access of the International Committee of the Waxman of California or a designee, which Red Cross to detainees. amendment by the gentleman from shall be in order without intervention of any SEC. 503. COMPOSITION OF COMMISSION. California (Mr. WAXMAN) that was re- point of order or demand for division of the (a) MEMBERS.—The Commission shall be jected in the Committee on Rules last question, shall not be subject to amendment, composed of 10 members, of whom— night. shall be considered as read, and shall be sep- (1) 1 member shall be appointed by the Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous con- arately debatable for 60 minutes equally di- President, who shall serve as chairman of sent to insert the text of this amend- vided and controlled by the proponent and an the Commission; ment immediately prior to the vote on opponent; and (4) (2) 1 member shall be jointly appointed by the previous question. SEC. 2. The amendment by Representative the minority leader of the Senate and the Waxman referred to in Section 1 is as fol- minority leader of the House of Representa- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there lows: objection to the request of the gen- tives, who shall serve as vice chairman of the AMENDMENT TO H.R. 2475, AS REPORTED Commission; tleman from Florida? OFFERED BY MR. WAXMAN OF CALIFORNIA (3) 2 members shall be appointed by the There was no objection. At the end, add the following new title: majority leader of the Senate; Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. (4) 2 members shall be appointed by the Speaker, the Waxman amendment has TITLE V—ESTABLISHMENT OF INDE- Speaker of the House of Representatives; been explained. It would establish an PENDENT COMMISSION TO INVES- (5) 2 members shall be appointed by the mi- independent commission, similar to TIGATE DETAINEE ABUSES nority leader of the Senate; and the 9/11 Commission, to conduct an ex- SEC. 501. ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMISSION. (6) 2 members shall be appointed by the mi- tensive, bipartisan, and thorough in- There is established in the legislative nority leader of the House of Representa- branch the Independent Commission on the vestigation into the multiple accounts tives. Investigation of Detainee Abuses (in this (b) QUALIFICATIONS; INITIAL MEETING.— of prisoner abuse that have occurred in title referred to as the ‘‘Commission’’). (1) NONGOVERNMENTAL APPOINTEES.—An in- Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo. SEC. 502. DUTIES. dividual appointed to the Commission may Mr. Speaker, it has been well over a (a) INVESTIGATION.—The Commission shall not be an officer or employee of the Federal year since the shocking and conduct a full and complete investigation of Government or any State or local govern- humiliating photographs of prisoner the abuses of detainees in connection with ment. abuse at Abu Ghraib first became pub- intelligence and intelligence-related activi- (2) OTHER QUALIFICATIONS.—Individuals lic. I doubt there is any Member of this ties of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation that shall be appointed to the Commission Chamber who was not appalled at that Enduring Freedom, or any operation within should be prominent United States citizens, the Global War on Terrorism, including but with national recognition and significant disgraceful act. Yet, in spite of these not limited to the following: depth of experience in such professions as events, the House has done very little (1) The extent of the abuses. governmental service, law enforcement, the of substance. (2) Why the abuses occurred. armed services, law, public administration, Mr. Speaker, if you allow me to con- (3) Who is responsible for the abuses. intelligence gathering, human rights policy, clude by saying, a ‘‘no’’ vote will allow (4) Whether any particular Department of and foreign affairs. Members to vote on the Waxman Defense, Department of State, Department (3) DEADLINE FOR APPOINTMENT.—All mem- amendment, so we can take immediate of Justice, Central Intelligence Agency, Na- bers of the Commission shall be appointed steps to fully investigate these very tional Security Council, or White House poli- within 45 days following the enactment of this Act. disturbing incidents of prisoner mis- cies, procedures, or decisions facilitated the detainee abuses. (4) MEETINGS.—The Commission shall meet treatment. (5) What policies, procedures, or mecha- and begin the operations of the Commission Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield nisms failed to prevent the abuses. as soon as practicable. After its initial meet- myself the balance of my time. (6) What legislative or executive actions ing, the Commission shall meet upon the call Mr. Speaker, this has been a vibrant, should be taken to prevent such abuses from of the chairman or a majority of its mem- robust debate and a good solid begin- occurring in the future. bers. ning of the undeniable debate that will (7) The extent, if any, to which Guanta- (c) QUORUM; VACANCIES.—Six members of follow on the underlying bill. namo Detention Center policies influenced the Commission shall constitute a quorum. In case you missed it from the debate policies at the Abu Ghraib prison and other Any vacancy in the Commission shall not af- detention centers in and outside Iraq. fect its powers, but shall be filled in the over the rule, there is a lot more to (b) ASSESSMENT, ANALYSIS, AND EVALUA- same manner in which the original appoint- this rule than just Abu Ghraib and TION.—During the course of its investigation ment was made. Guantanamo. This is an important rule under subsection (a), the Commission shall (d) CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.—Each member that allows us to consider the intel- assess, analyze, and evaluate relevant per- appointed to the Commission shall submit a

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POWERS OF COMMISSION. committee created by a majority of the experts and consultants in accordance with (a) IN GENERAL.— Commission, or any member designated by a section 3109 of title 5, United States Code, (1) HEARINGS AND EVIDENCE.—The Commis- majority of the Commission. but at rates not to exceed the daily rate paid sion or, on the authority of the Commission, (2) RECEIPT, HANDLING, STORAGE, AND DIS- a person occupying a position at level IV of any subcommittee or member thereof, may, SEMINATION.—Information shall only be re- the Executive Schedule under section 5315 of for the purpose of carrying out this title— ceived, handled, stored, and disseminated by title 5, United States Code. (A) hold such hearings and sit and act at members of the Commission and its staff SEC. 507. COMPENSATION AND TRAVEL EX- such times and places, take such testimony, consistent with all applicable statutes, regu- PENSES. receive such evidence, administer such lations, and Executive Orders. (a) COMPENSATION.—Each member of the oaths; and (d) ASSISTANCE FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES.— Commission may be compensated at a rate (B) subject to paragraph (2)(A), require, by (1) GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION.— not to exceed the daily equivalent of the an- subpoena or otherwise, the attendance and The Administrator of General Services shall nual rate of basic pay in effect for a position testimony of such witnesses and the produc- provide to the Commission on a reimburs- at level IV of the Executive Schedule under tion of such books, records, correspondence, able basis administrative support and other section 5315 of title 5, United States Code, for memoranda, papers, and documents, services for the performance of the Commis- each day during which that member is en- as the Commission or such designated sub- sion’s functions. gaged in the actual performance of the du- committee or designated member may deter- (2) OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES.—In ties of the Commission. mine advisable. addition to the assistance prescribed in para- (b) TRAVEL EXPENSES.—While away from graph (1), departments and agencies of the (2) SUBPOENAS.— their homes or regular places of business in United States may provide to the Commis- (A) ISSUANCE.— the performance of services for the Commis- sion such services, funds, facilities, staff, and (i) IN GENERAL.—A subpoena may be issued sion, members of the Commission shall be al- under this subsection only— other support services as they may deter- lowed travel expenses, including per diem in (I) by the agreement of the chairman and mine advisable and as may be authorized by lieu of subsistence, in the same manner as the vice chairman; or law. persons employed intermittently in the Gov- (II) by the affirmative vote of 6 members of (e) GIFTS.—The Commission may accept, ernment service are allowed expenses under the Commission. use, and dispose of gifts or donations of serv- section 5703(b) of title 5, United States Code. ices or property. (ii) SIGNATURE.—Subject to clause (i), sub- SEC. 508. SECURITY CLEARANCES FOR COMMIS- poenas issued under this subsection may be (f) POSTAL SERVICES.—The Commission SION MEMBERS AND STAFF. issued under the signature of the chairman may use the United States mails in the same (a) IN GENERAL.—Subject to subsection (b), or any member designated by a majority of manner and under the same conditions as de- the appropriate Federal agencies or depart- the Commission, and may be served by any partments and agencies of the United States. ments shall cooperate with the Commission person designated by the chairman or by a SEC. 505. NONAPPLICABILITY OF FEDERAL ADVI- in expeditiously providing to the Commis- member designated by a majority of the SORY COMMITTEE ACT. sion members and staff appropriate security Commission. (a) IN GENERAL.—The Federal Advisory clearances to the extent possible pursuant to (B) ENFORCEMENT.— Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App.) shall not existing procedures and requirements. (i) IN GENERAL.—In the case of contumacy apply to the Commission. (b) EXCEPTION.—No person shall be pro- or failure to obey a subpoena issued under (b) PUBLIC MEETINGS AND RELEASE OF PUB- vided with access to classified information this subsection, the United States district LIC VERSIONS OF REPORTS.—The Commission under this title without the appropriate re- court for the judicial district in which the shall— quired security clearance access. subpoenaed person resides, is served, or may (1) hold public hearings and meetings to SEC. 509. REPORTS OF COMMISSION; TERMI- be found, or where the subpoena is return- the extent appropriate; and NATION. able, may issue an order requiring such per- (2) release public versions of the reports re- (a) INTERIM REPORTS.—The Commission son to appear at any designated place to tes- quired under section 509. may submit to Congress and the President tify or to produce documentary or other evi- (c) PUBLIC HEARINGS.—Any public hearings interim reports containing such findings, dence. Any failure to obey the order of the of the Commission shall be conducted in a conclusions, and recommendations for cor- court may be punished by the court as a con- manner consistent with the protection of in- rective measures as have been agreed to by a tempt of that court. formation provided to or developed for or by majority of Commission members. (ii) ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT.—In the case the Commission as required by any applica- (b) FINAL REPORT.—Not later than 18 of any failure of any witness to comply with ble statute, regulation, or Executive order. months after the date of the enactment of any subpoena or to testify when summoned SEC. 506. STAFF OF COMMISSION. this Act, the Commission shall submit to under authority of this subsection, the Com- (a) IN GENERAL.— Congress and the President a final report mission may, by majority vote, certify a (1) APPOINTMENT AND COMPENSATION.—The containing such findings, conclusions, and statement of fact constituting such failure chairman, in consultation with vice chair- recommendations for corrective measures as to the appropriate United States attorney, man, in accordance with rules agreed upon have been agreed to by a majority of Com- who may bring the matter before the grand by the Commission, may appoint and fix the mission members. jury for its action, under the same statutory compensation of a staff director and such (c) FORM OF REPORT.—Each report prepared authority and procedures as if the United other personnel as may be necessary to en- under this section shall be submitted in un- States attorney had received a certification able the Commission to carry out its func- classified form, but may contain a classified under sections 102 through 104 of the Revised tions, without regard to the provisions of annex. Statutes of the United States (2 U.S.C. 192 title 5, United States Code, governing ap- (d) RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE PUBLIC CER- through 194). pointments in the competitive service, and TAIN CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.—If the Com- (3) SCOPE.—In carrying out its duties under without regard to the provisions of chapter mission determines that it is in the public this Act, the Commission may examine the 51 and subchapter III of chapter 53 of such interest that some or all of the information actions and representations of the current title relating to classification and General contained in a classified annex of a report Administration as well as prior Administra- Schedule pay rates, except that no rate of under this section be made available to the tions. pay fixed under this subsection may exceed public, the Commission shall make a rec- (b) CONTRACTING.—The Commission may, the equivalent of that payable for a position ommendation to the congressional intel- to such extent and in such amounts as are at level V of the Executive Schedule under ligence committees to make such informa- provided in appropriation Acts, enter into section 5316 of title 5, United States Code. tion public, and the congressional intel- contracts to enable the Commission to dis- (2) PERSONNEL AS FEDERAL EMPLOYEES.— ligence committees shall consider the rec- charge its duties of this Act. (A) IN GENERAL.—The staff director and ommendation pursuant to the procedures (c) INFORMATION FROM FEDERAL AGEN- any personnel of the Commission who are under subsection (e). CIES.— employees shall be employees under section (e) PROCEDURE FOR DECLASSIFYING INFOR- (1) IN GENERAL.—The Commission may se- 2105 of title 5, United States Code, for pur- MATION.— cure directly from any executive depart- poses of chapters 63, 81, 83, 84, 85, 87, 89, and (1) The procedures referred to in subsection ment, bureau, agency, board, commission, of- 90 of that title. (d) are the procedures described in— fice, independent establishment, or instru- (B) MEMBERS OF COMMISSION.—Subpara- (A) with respect to the Permanent Select mentality of the Federal Government, infor- graph (A) shall not be construed to apply to Committee on Intelligence of the House of mation, suggestions, estimates, and statis- members of the Commission. Representatives, clause 11(g) of Rule X of the tics for the purposes of this Act. Each de- (b) DETAILEES.—Any Federal Government Rules of the House of Representatives, One partment, bureau, agency, board, commis- employee may be detailed to the Commission Hundred Ninth Congress; and sion, office, independent establishment, or without reimbursement from the Commis- (B) with respect to the Select Committee instrumentality shall, to the extent author- sion, and such detailee shall retain the on Intelligence of the Senate, section 8 of

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00035 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.020 H21PT1 H4840 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Senate Resolution 400, Ninety-Fourth Con- Gilchrest Lewis (KY) Reichert Ortiz Sa´ nchez, Linda Taylor (MS) gress. Gillmor Linder Renzi Owens T. Thompson (CA) (2) In this section, the term ‘‘congressional Gingrey LoBiondo Reynolds Pallone Sanchez, Loretta Thompson (MS) Sanders intelligence committees’’ means— Gohmert Lucas Rogers (AL) Pascrell Tierney Goode Lungren, Daniel Rogers (KY) Schakowsky (A) the Permanent Select Committee on Pastor Towns Goodlatte E. Rogers (MI) Payne Schiff Udall (CO) Intelligence of the House of Representatives; Granger Mack Rohrabacher Pelosi Schwartz (PA) Udall (NM) and Graves Manzullo Ros-Lehtinen Peterson (MN) Scott (GA) Van Hollen Scott (VA) (B) the Select Committee on Intelligence Green (WI) Marchant Royce Pomeroy Vela´ zquez Gutknecht McCaul (TX) Serrano of the Senate. Ryan (WI) Price (NC) Visclosky Hall McCotter Sherman Ryun (KS) Rahall Wasserman SEC. 510. TERMINATION. Harris McCrery Skelton Saxton Rangel Schultz (a) IN GENERAL.—The Commission, and all Hart McHenry Schwarz (MI) Slaughter the authorities of this Act, shall terminate Hastings (WA) McHugh Reyes Smith (WA) Waters Sensenbrenner Ross Watson 60 days after the date on which the final re- Hayes McKeon Shadegg Snyder Rothman Solis Watt port is submitted under section 509(b). Hayworth McMorris Shaw Hefley Mica Roybal-Allard Spratt Waxman (b) ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES BEFORE Shays Hensarling Miller (FL) Ruppersberger Stark Weiner Sherwood TERMINATION.—The Commission may use the Herger Miller (MI) Rush Strickland Wexler Shimkus 60-day period referred to in paragraph (1) for Hobson Miller, Gary Ryan (OH) Stupak Woolsey Shuster the purpose of concluding its activities, in- Hoekstra Moran (KS) Sabo Tanner Wu Simmons cluding providing testimony to committees Hostettler Musgrave Salazar Tauscher Wynn Simpson Hulshof Myrick of Congress concerning its reports and dis- Smith (NJ) NOT VOTING—8 seminating the final report. Hunter Neugebauer Hyde Ney Smith (TX) Carter Murphy Whitfield SEC. 511. FUNDING. Inglis (SC) Northup Sodrel Herseth Sessions Young (FL) (a) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.— Issa Norwood Souder Lewis (GA) Walden (OR) There is authorized to be appropriated funds Istook Nunes Stearns Jenkins Nussle Sullivan b 1431 not to exceed $5,000,000 for purposes of the Sweeney activities of the Commission under this Act. Jindal Osborne Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas changed Johnson (CT) Otter Tancredo (b) DURATION OF AVAILABILITY.—Amounts Johnson (IL) Oxley Taylor (NC) his vote from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ made available to the Commission under Johnson, Sam Paul Terry Mr. GILLMOR and Mr. ISTOOK subsection (a) shall remain available until Jones (NC) Pearce Thomas changed their vote from ‘‘nay’’ to the termination of the Commission. Keller Pence Thornberry ‘‘yea.’’ Kelly Peterson (PA) Tiahrt Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Speaker, I yield Kennedy (MN) Petri Tiberi So the previous question was ordered. back the balance of my time, and I King (IA) Pickering Turner The result of the vote was announced move the previous question on the res- King (NY) Pitts Upton as above recorded. Kingston Platts Walsh The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. olution. Wamp Kirk Poe HAYES). The question is on the resolu- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Kline Pombo Weldon (FL) question is on ordering the previous Knollenberg Porter Weldon (PA) tion. question. Kolbe Price (GA) Weller The resolution was agreed to. Kuhl (NY) Pryce (OH) Westmoreland A motion to reconsider was laid on The question was taken; and the LaHood Putnam Wicker the table. Speaker pro tempore announced that Latham Radanovich Wilson (NM) the ayes appeared to have it. LaTourette Ramstad Wilson (SC) f Leach Regula Wolf Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Lewis (CA) Rehberg Young (AK) ANNOUNCEMENT OF MEMBERS TO Speaker, I object to the vote on the ATTEND FUNERAL OF THE HON. ground that a quorum is not present NAYS—201 ‘‘JAKE’’ PICKLE and make the point of order that a Abercrombie Davis (TN) Kildee (Mr. THOMAS asked and was given quorum is not present. Ackerman DeFazio Kilpatrick (MI) permission to address the House for 1 The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- Allen DeGette Kind Andrews Delahunt Kucinich minute and to revise and extend his re- dently a quorum is not present. Baca DeLauro Langevin marks.) The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- Baird Dicks Lantos Mr. THOMAS. Mr. Speaker, the gen- Baldwin Dingell Larsen (WA) sent Members. tleman from New York (Mr. RANGEL) Barrow Doggett Larson (CT) Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Bean Doyle Lee and I are in the process of putting to- Chair will reduce to 5 minutes the min- Becerra Edwards Levin gether the potential list for flying to imum time for electronic voting, if or- Berkley Emanuel Lipinski the Jake Pickle funeral tomorrow at 4 dered, on the question of adoption of Berman Engel Lofgren, Zoe Berry Eshoo Lowey p.m. It is very short notice, and it will the resolution. Bishop (GA) Etheridge Lynch be an imposition on the funeral site. The vote was taken by electronic de- Bishop (NY) Evans Maloney We are in contact now. vice, and there were—yeas 224, nays Blumenauer Farr Markey What we need to know are how many Boren Fattah Marshall 201, not voting 8, as follows: Boswell Filner Matheson Members, beyond the Texas delegation [Roll No. 288] Boucher Ford Matsui and the Committee on Ways and Boyd Frank (MA) McCarthy Means, have a very strong interest in YEAS—224 Brady (PA) Gonzalez McCollum (MN) Aderholt Brown-Waite, Dent Brown (OH) Gordon McDermott attending the Jake Pickle funeral? We Akin Ginny Diaz-Balart, L. Brown, Corrine Green, Al McGovern would leave with ample time to get Alexander Burgess Diaz-Balart, M. Butterfield Green, Gene McIntyre there prior to the 4 p.m. funeral time, Bachus Burton (IN) Doolittle Capps Grijalva McKinney and then we would immediately return. Buyer Drake Capuano Gutierrez McNulty Baker Any Member who has an interest, Barrett (SC) Calvert Dreier Cardin Harman Meehan Bartlett (MD) Camp Duncan Cardoza Hastings (FL) Meek (FL) would they call the Committee on Barton (TX) Cannon Ehlers Carnahan Higgins Meeks (NY) Ways and Means and ask for Allison Bass Cantor Emerson Carson Hinchey Melancon Capito English (PA) Case Hinojosa Menendez Giles, 53630. We need to pull together Beauprez an approximate number of Members Biggert Castle Everett Chandler Holden Michaud Chabot Feeney Clay Holt Millender- Bilirakis who have a strong interest in attending Chocola Ferguson Cleaver Honda McDonald Bishop (UT) the Jake Pickle funeral. Coble Fitzpatrick (PA) Clyburn Hooley Miller (NC) Blackburn Cole (OK) Flake Conyers Hoyer Miller, George f Blunt Conaway Foley Cooper Inslee Mollohan Boehlert Cox Forbes Costa Israel Moore (KS) INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION Boehner Crenshaw Fortenberry Costello Jackson (IL) Moore (WI) ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006 Bonilla Cubin Fossella Cramer Jackson-Lee Moran (VA) Bonner Culberson Foxx Crowley (TX) Murtha Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, pursu- Bono Cunningham Franks (AZ) Cuellar Jefferson Nadler ant to House Resolution 331, I call up Boozman Davis (KY) Frelinghuysen Cummings Johnson, E. B. Napolitano the bill (H.R. 2475) to authorize appro- Boustany Davis, Jo Ann Gallegly Davis (AL) Jones (OH) Neal (MA) priations for fiscal year 2006 for intel- Bradley (NH) Davis, Tom Garrett (NJ) Davis (CA) Kanjorski Oberstar Brady (TX) Deal (GA) Gerlach Davis (FL) Kaptur Obey ligence and intelligence-related activi- Brown (SC) DeLay Gibbons Davis (IL) Kennedy (RI) Olver ties of the United States Government,

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00036 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.020 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4841 the Community Management Account, SEC. 104. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY MANAGE- a substitute printed in the bill, modi- and the Central Intelligence Agency MENT ACCOUNT. fied by the amendment printed in Part Retirement and Disability System, and (a) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.— A of House Report 109–141, is adopted. There is authorized to be appropriated for for other purposes and ask for its im- the Intelligence Community Management The text of the committee amend- mediate consideration. Account of the Director of National Intel- ment in the nature of a substitute, as The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- ligence for fiscal year 2006 the sum of modified, is as follows: ant to House Resolution 331, the bill is $lllll. Within such amount, funds iden- H. R. 2475 considered read for amendment. tified in the classified Schedule of Author- Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- The text of H.R. 2475 is as follows: izations referred to in section 102(a) for ad- resentatives of the United States of America in vanced research and development shall re- H. R. 2475 Congress assembled, main available until September 30, 2007. SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- (b) AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL LEVELS.—The (a) SHORT TITLE.—This Act may be cited as resentatives of the United States of America in elements within the Intelligence Community the ‘‘Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Congress assembled, Management Account of the Director of Na- Year 2006’’. SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. tional Intelligence are authorized ll full- (b) TABLE OF CONTENTS.—The table of con- This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Intelligence time personnel as of September 30, 2006. Per- tents of this Act is as follows: Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006’’. sonnel serving in such elements may be per- Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents. manent employees of the Intelligence Com- TITLE I—INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES munity Management Account or personnel TITLE I—INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES SEC. 101. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS. detailed from other elements of the United Sec. 101. Authorization of appropriations. Funds are hereby authorized to be appro- States Government. Sec. 102. Classified Schedule of Authoriza- priated for fiscal year 2006 for the conduct of (c) CLASSIFIED AUTHORIZATIONS.— tions. Sec. 103. Personnel ceiling adjustments. the intelligence and intelligence-related ac- (1) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.—In Sec. 104. Intelligence Community Manage- tivities of the following elements of the addition to amounts authorized to be appro- ment Account. United States Government: priated for the Intelligence Community Man- (1) The Office of the Director of National agement Account by subsection (a), there are TITLE II—CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGEN- Intelligence. also authorized to be appropriated for the In- CY RETIREMENT AND DISABILITY SYS- (2) The Central Intelligence Agency. telligence Community Management Account TEM (3) The Department of Defense. for fiscal year 2006 such additional amounts Sec. 201. Authorization of appropriations. (4) The Defense Intelligence Agency. as are specified in the classified Schedule of TITLE III—GENERAL PROVISIONS (5) The National Security Agency. Authorizations referred to in section 102(a). Sec. 301. Increase in employee compensation (6) The Department of the Army, the De- Such additional amounts for advanced re- and benefits authorized by law. partment of the Navy, and the Department search and development shall remain avail- Sec. 302. Restriction on conduct of intel- of the Air Force. able until September 30, 2007. ligence activities. (7) The Department of State. (2) AUTHORIZATION OF PERSONNEL.—In addi- Sec. 303. Authority of the Director of Na- (8) The Department of the Treasury. tion to the personnel authorized by sub- tional Intelligence to assign individuals to (9) The Department of Energy. section (b) for elements of the Intelligence United States missions in foreign coun- (10) The Department of Justice. Community Management Account as of Sep- tries to coordinate and direct intelligence (11) The Federal Bureau of Investigation. tember 30, 2006, there are also authorized and intelligence-related activities con- (12) The National Reconnaissance Office. such additional personnel for such elements ducted in that country. (13) The National Geospatial-Intelligence as of that date as are specified in the classi- Sec. 304. Clarification of delegation of trans- Agency. fied Schedule of Authorizations. fer or reprogramming authority. (14) The Coast Guard. (d) REIMBURSEMENT.—Except as provided in Sec. 305. Approval of personnel transfer for (15) The Department of Homeland Secu- section 113 of the National Security Act of new national intelligence centers. rity. 1947 (50 U.S.C. 404h), during fiscal year 2006 Sec. 306. Additional duties for the Director of SEC. 102. CLASSIFIED SCHEDULE OF AUTHORIZA- any officer or employee of the United States Science and Technology. TIONS. or a member of the Armed Forces who is de- Sec. 307. Comprehensive inventory of special (a) SPECIFICATIONS OF AMOUNTS AND PER- tailed to the staff of the Intelligence Com- access programs. Sec. 308. Sense of Congress on budget execu- SONNEL CEILINGS.—The amounts authorized munity Management Account from another to be appropriated under section 101, and the element of the United States Government tion authority procedures. Sec. 309. Sense of Congress with respect to authorized personnel ceilings as of Sep- shall be detailed on a reimbursable basis, ex- multi-level security clearances. tember 30, 2006, for the conduct of the intel- cept that any such officer, employee, or ligence and intelligence-related activities of member may be detailed on a nonreimburs- TITLE IV—CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE the elements listed in such section, are those able basis for a period of less than one year AGENCY specified in the classified Schedule of Au- for the performance of temporary functions Sec. 401. Clarification of role of the Director thorizations prepared to accompany the bill as required by the Director of National Intel- of Central Intelligence Agency as head of H.R. llll of the One Hundred Ninth Con- ligence. human intelligence collection. gress. TITLE II—CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGEN- TITLE I—INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (b) AVAILABILITY OF CLASSIFIED SCHEDULE CY RETIREMENT AND DISABILITY SYS- SEC. 101. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS. OF AUTHORIZATIONS.—The Schedule of Au- TEM Funds are hereby authorized to be appro- thorizations shall be made available to the SEC. 201. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS. priated for fiscal year 2006 for the conduct of Committees on Appropriations of the Senate There is authorized to be appropriated for the intelligence and intelligence-related activi- and House of Representatives and to the the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement ties of the following elements of the United President. The President shall provide for and Disability Fund for fiscal year 2006 the States Government: suitable distribution of the Schedule, or of sum of $lllll. (1) The Office of the Director of National In- appropriate portions of the Schedule, within telligence. TITLE III—GENERAL PROVISIONS the executive branch. (2) The Central Intelligence Agency. SEC. 103. PERSONNEL CEILING ADJUSTMENTS. SEC. 301. INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE COMPENSA- (3) The Department of Defense. TION AND BENEFITS AUTHORIZED (a) AUTHORITY FOR ADJUSTMENTS.—With (4) The Defense Intelligence Agency. BY LAW. (5) The National Security Agency. the approval of the Director of the Office of Appropriations authorized by this Act for Management and Budget, the Director of Na- (6) The Department of the Army, the Depart- salary, pay, retirement, and other benefits ment of the Navy, and the Department of the tional Intelligence may authorize employ- for Federal employees may be increased by ment of civilian personnel in excess of the Air Force. such additional or supplemental amounts as (7) The Department of State. number authorized for fiscal year 2006 under may be necessary for increases in such com- (8) The Department of the Treasury. section 102 when the Director of National In- pensation or benefits authorized by law. (9) The Department of Energy. telligence determines that such action is (10) The Department of Justice. necessary to the performance of important SEC. 302. RESTRICTION ON CONDUCT OF INTEL- LIGENCE ACTIVITIES. (11) The Federal Bureau of Investigation. intelligence functions. The authorization of appropriations by (12) The National Reconnaissance Office. (b) NOTICE TO INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES.— this Act shall not be deemed to constitute (13) The National Geospatial-Intelligence The Director of National Intelligence shall authority for the conduct of any intelligence Agency. notify promptly the Select Committee on In- (14) The Coast Guard. activity which is not otherwise authorized telligence of the Senate and the Permanent (15) The Department of Homeland Security. by the Constitution or the laws of the United Select Committee on Intelligence of the States. SEC. 102. CLASSIFIED SCHEDULE OF AUTHORIZA- House of Representatives whenever the Di- TIONS. rector exercises the authority granted by The SPEAKER pro tempore. The (a) SPECIFICATIONS OF AMOUNTS AND PER- this section. committee amendment in the nature of SONNEL CEILINGS.—The amounts authorized to

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00037 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 6333 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.075 H21PT1 H4842 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 be appropriated under section 101, and the au- TITLE II—CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGEN- may be submitted in classified form and shall in- thorized personnel ceilings as of September 30, CY RETIREMENT AND DISABILITY SYS- clude— 2006, for the conduct of the intelligence and in- TEM (1) an assessment of the highest priority intel- telligence-related activities of the elements listed SEC. 201. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS. ligence gaps across the intelligence community in such section, are those specified in the classi- There is authorized to be appropriated for the that may be resolved by the use of technology; fied Schedule of Authorizations prepared to ac- Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Dis- (2) goals for advanced research and develop- company the bill H.R. 2475 of the One Hundred ability Fund for fiscal year 2006 the sum of ment and a strategy to achieve such goals; (3) an explanation of how each advanced re- Ninth Congress. $244,600,000. (b) AVAILABILITY OF CLASSIFIED SCHEDULE OF search and development project funded under AUTHORIZATIONS.—The Schedule of Authoriza- TITLE III—GENERAL PROVISIONS the National Intelligence Program addresses an tions shall be made available to the Committees SEC. 301. INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE COMPENSA- identified intelligence gap; on Appropriations of the Senate and House of TION AND BENEFITS AUTHORIZED (4) a list of all current and projected research Representatives and to the President. The Presi- BY LAW. and development projects by research type dent shall provide for suitable distribution of Appropriations authorized by this Act for sal- (basic, advanced, or applied) with estimated the Schedule, or of appropriate portions of the ary, pay, retirement, and other benefits for Fed- funding levels, estimated initiation dates, and Schedule, within the executive branch. eral employees may be increased by such addi- estimated completion dates; and SEC. 103. PERSONNEL CEILING ADJUSTMENTS. tional or supplemental amounts as may be nec- (5) a plan to incorporate technology from re- (a) AUTHORITY FOR ADJUSTMENTS.—With the essary for increases in such compensation or search and development projects into National approval of the Director of the Office of Man- benefits authorized by law. Intelligence Program acquisition programs. agement and Budget, the Director of National SEC. 302. RESTRICTION ON CONDUCT OF INTEL- SEC. 307. COMPREHENSIVE INVENTORY OF SPE- Intelligence may authorize employment of civil- LIGENCE ACTIVITIES. CIAL ACCESS PROGRAMS. ian personnel in excess of the number author- The authorization of appropriations by this Not later than January 15, 2006, the Director ized for fiscal year 2006 under section 102 when Act shall not be deemed to constitute authority of National Intelligence shall submit to the con- the Director of National Intelligence determines for the conduct of any intelligence activity gressional intelligence committees (as defined in that such action is necessary to the performance which is not otherwise authorized by the Con- section 3(7) of the National Security Act of 1947 of important intelligence functions. stitution or the laws of the United States. (50 U.S.C. 401a(7))) a classified report providing (b) NOTICE TO INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES.— SEC. 304. CLARIFICATION OF DELEGATION OF a comprehensive inventory of all special access The Director of National Intelligence shall no- TRANSFER OR REPROGRAMMING AU- programs under the National Intelligence Pro- tify promptly the Select Committee on Intel- THORITY. gram (as defined in section 3(6) of the National ligence of the Senate and the Permanent Select Paragraph (5)(B) of section 102A(d) of the Na- Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 401a(6))). Committee on Intelligence of the House of Rep- tional Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 403–1(d)), SEC. 308. SENSE OF CONGRESS ON BUDGET EXE- resentatives whenever the Director exercises the as added by section 1011(a) of the National Se- CUTION AUTHORITY PROCEDURES. authority granted by this section. curity Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 (title I of It is the sense of Congress that the Director of SEC. 104. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY MANAGE- Public Law 108–458; 118 Stat. 3643), is amended National Intelligence should expeditiously es- MENT ACCOUNT. by striking ‘‘or agency involved’’ in the second tablish the necessary budgetary processes and (a) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.— sentence and inserting ‘‘involved or the Director procedures with the heads of the departments There is authorized to be appropriated for the of the Central Intelligence Agency (in the case containing agencies or organizations within the Intelligence Community Management Account of the Central Intelligence Agency)’’. intelligence community, and the heads of such of the Director of National Intelligence for fiscal SEC. 306. ADDITIONAL DUTIES FOR THE DIREC- agencies and organizations, in order to— year 2006 the sum of $446,144,000. Within such TOR OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY. (1) implement the budget execution authorities amount, funds identified in the classified Sched- (a) COORDINATION AND PRIORITIZATION OF RE- provided under, and submit the reports to Con- ule of Authorizations referred to in section SEARCH CONDUCTED BY ELEMENTS OF THE INTEL- gress required by, subsection (c) of section 102A 102(a) for advanced research and development LIGENCE COMMUNITY.—Subsection (d) of section of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. shall remain available until September 30, 2007. 103E of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 403–1), as amended by section 1011(a) of the Na- (b) AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL LEVELS.—The ele- U.S.C. 403–3e), as added by section 1011(a) of tional Security Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 ments within the Intelligence Community Man- the National Security Intelligence Reform Act of (title I of Public Law 108–458; 118 Stat. 3643); agement Account of the Director of National In- 2004 (title I of Public Law 108–458; 118 Stat. and telligence are authorized 817 full-time personnel 3643), is amended— (2) carry out the duties and authorities of the as of September 30, 2006. Personnel serving in (1) by inserting ‘‘and prioritize’’ after ‘‘coordi- Director of National Intelligence with respect to such elements may be permanent employees of nate’’ in paragraph (3)(A); and the transfer and reprogramming of funds under the Intelligence Community Management Ac- (2) by adding at the end the following new the National Intelligence Program under sub- count or personnel detailed from other elements paragraph: section (d) of such section, as so amended. of the United States Government. ‘‘(4) In carrying out paragraph (3)(A), the SEC. 309. SENSE OF CONGRESS WITH RESPECT TO (c) CLASSIFIED AUTHORIZATIONS.— Committee shall identify basic, advanced, and MULTI-LEVEL SECURITY CLEAR- (1) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.—In applied research programs to be carried out by ANCES. addition to amounts authorized to be appro- elements of the intelligence community.’’. It is the sense of Congress that the Director of priated for the Intelligence Community Manage- (b) DEVELOPMENT OF TECHNOLOGY GOALS.— National Intelligence should promptly establish ment Account by subsection (a), there are also Section 103E of such Act (50 U.S.C. 403–3e), as and oversee the implementation of a multi-level authorized to be appropriated for the Intel- so added, is amended— security clearance system across the intelligence ligence Community Management Account for (1) in subsection (c)— community to leverage the cultural and lin- fiscal year 2006 such additional amounts as are (A) by striking ‘‘and’’ at the end of paragraph guistic skills of subject matter experts and indi- specified in the classified Schedule of Author- (4); viduals proficient in foreign languages critical izations referred to in section 102(a). Such addi- (B) by redesignating paragraph (5) as para- to national security. tional amounts for advanced research and de- graph (6); and The SPEAKER pro tempore. After 1 (C) by inserting after paragraph (4) the fol- velopment shall remain available until Sep- hour of debate on the bill, as amended, tember 30, 2007. lowing new paragraph: (2) AUTHORIZATION OF PERSONNEL.—In addi- ‘‘(5) assist the Director in establishing goals it shall be in order to consider the fur- tion to the personnel authorized by subsection for the elements of the intelligence community to ther amendment printed in the report, (b) for elements of the Intelligence Community meet the technology needs of the community; if offered by the gentlewoman from Management Account as of September 30, 2006, and’’; and New York (Mrs. MALONEY), or her des- there are also authorized such additional per- (2) by adding at the end the following new ignee, which shall be considered read, sonnel for such elements as of that date as are subsection: and shall be debatable for 30 minutes, specified in the classified Schedule of Author- ‘‘(e) GOALS FOR TECHNOLOGY NEEDS OF THE equally divided and controlled by the izations. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.—In carrying out (d) REIMBURSEMENT.—Except as provided in subsection (c)(5), the Director of Science and proponent and an opponent. section 113 of the National Security Act of 1947 Technology shall— The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. (50 U.S.C. 404h), during fiscal year 2006 any of- ‘‘(1) perform systematic identification and as- HOEKSTRA) and the gentlewoman from ficer or employee of the United States or a mem- sessment of the most significant intelligence California (Ms. HARMAN) each will con- ber of the Armed Forces who is detailed to the challenges that require technical solutions; and trol 30 minutes of debate on the bill. staff of the Intelligence Community Manage- ‘‘(2) examine options to enhance the respon- The Chair recognizes the gentleman ment Account from another element of the siveness of research and design programs to from Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA). United States Government shall be detailed on a meet the requirements of the intelligence commu- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield reimbursable basis, except that any such officer, nity for timely support.’’. myself 5 minutes. employee, or member may be detailed on a non- (c) REPORT.—Not later than June 30, 2006, the reimbursable basis for a period of less than one Director of National Intelligence shall submit to Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support year for the performance of temporary functions Congress a report containing a strategy for the of H.R. 2475, the Intelligence Author- as required by the Director of National Intel- development and use of technology in the intel- ization Act for Fiscal Year 2006. This is ligence. ligence community through 2021. Such report a very good bill, a bill we can be very

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00038 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.024 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4843 proud of, and a bill that every Member accountable for their performance. islation that became the basis for the of the House can and should support. This is an area where tactically we 9/11 Commission’s Report and the intel- Before I talk about some of the de- may disagree on some of the points on ligence reform legislation passed by tails in the bill, I would like to recog- how to make that happen, but we are Congress last fall. That reform dra- nize the gentlewoman from California very much in sync on a bipartisan basis matically reshaped our intelligence (Ms. HARMAN). We have worked hard on that we need a strategic plan and we community, unifying 15 agencies under the Permanent Select Committee on need to have our contractors perform. the leadership of a director of National Intelligence to keep this committee fo- It will also lay the framework for a dis- Intelligence. cused on the job that needs to be done cussion we will have throughout this This year’s intelligence authoriza- and to do so on a bipartisan basis, and year about how to make sure that in a tion bill authorizes funds for that new I thank the gentlewoman for working time where we have limited budgets office. The DNI must succeed in his job with us in that process and being able and limited programs underway, that and he deserves our support. He is re- to maintain that spirit as we bring this we maintain the industrial base here in sponsible for ensuring that intelligence bill to the floor on a bipartisan basis. I the United States. is timely, accurate and actionable. To also thank her staff and our staff for So there are a lot of things that we do this, he needs authority to build and helping us through this process in do in this bill to make sure that we execute budgets and move personnel. bringing this bill here today. have got the balance and are moving in So I am pleased that we removed a pro- Mr. Speaker, 3 years ago when he was the right direction on our technical ca- vision in this bill that would have se- chairman of the Permanent Select pabilities. verely eroded the DNI’s authority to Committee on Intelligence, Porter Another key element of this bill is move personnel around the intelligence Goss, now director of the Central Intel- we have heard consistently from our community. ligence Agency, asked me to take a field personnel and others within the Mr. Speaker, in the fight against ter- strategic look at the technical capa- intelligence community, especially rorists, intelligence is the tip of the bilities within the United States intel- those involved in the counterterrorism spear. Some see this fight as a tradi- ligence community. He wanted me to effort, that we cannot fund counterter- tional war, requiring wartime emer- see how the technical intelligence col- rorism on an ad hoc basis. So what we gency budgets and wartime authorities lection systems all work together, did in this bill is we have authorized for the President. That may have been evaluate their individual contributions the majority of the dollars that we be- the right approach immediately after 9/ to national security, and see if there lieve will be needed to build our intel- 11. We fought a war in Afghanistan and were redundancies to understand the ligence capability and to fund the war achieved an impressive victory. affordability of the many systems and, on terrorism. But the terrorist threat has changed. most importantly, understand the im- We think it is important to send to Today we no longer face a centralized pacts on the rest of the intelligence the intelligence community a clear sig- top-down terrorist organization oper- community. nal of how much money they are going ating out of one country. We face a What Mr. Goss really asked us to do to have so they can do the appropriate network of loosely affiliated terrorist was to go back, and we have expanded planning and the ramping up of re- groups which operate as franchises that in the committee over the past 8 sources in the waging of this global around the world, and that is why I be- or 9 months, to take a look at the stra- war on terrorism. lieve we are living in an era of terror. tegic framework that we face in the As I said at the beginning of my This legislation does some good world today and how we should respond statement, we have done this on a bi- things to help us achieve victory in an to the threats. So we spent a consider- partisan basis. We have taken a stra- era of terror. able amount of time looking at the tegic look at what the intelligence First, it ends our reliance on emer- threats that America faces: What is the community, where it needs to be and gency supplemental budgets for coun- threat environment that is out there where it needs to go. We are going to terterrorism. The budget the President today; what do we expect it to be in 3, continue working in that effort. I sent to Congress this year funded less 5 and 7 years, so we can shape the prop- think as Members see through the de- than 40 percent of the intelligence er intelligence community to give our bate, we have made a lot of progress community counterterrorism require- policymakers and our military the and there is more work to do. ments, leaving the rest for emergency right information to make good deci- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of supplementals. This bill changes that sions and keep our soldiers safe? my time. on a bipartisan basis, and we fund 100 We have then taken that to take a Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield percent of CT requirements. look at the feedback we have gotten myself 5 minutes. Second, this legislation incorporates from the 9/11 Commission, the feedback Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. a resolution introduced by all nine we have gotten from the WMD Com- 2475, the strongest intelligence author- Democrats, urging the new DNI to es- mission as to the particular strengths ization bill to emerge from the Perma- tablish a multi-tiered security clear- within the intelligence community and nent Select Committee on Intelligence ance system to allow patriotic Ameri- also some of the particular weaknesses. in recent memory. Without the funding cans with relatives in foreign countries So as we put this bill together, we authorized in this bill, the brave men to obtain security clearances and serve really focused on making sure that we and women of the intelligence commu- our Nation. It is high time we do this. had a good balance between our human nity would not be able to do their jobs This will help with field officers who capabilities, the investment we were which are so vital to the defense of our can speak the languages and blend in making in our human capabilities for country. I and many other members of with terrorist groups, penetrate pro- the long term, and the investment we the committee have visited these intel- liferation networks, and recruit spies were making in our technical capabili- ligence professionals in some of the against the toughest targets. ties. This bill does that by investing most austere places of the world, and more in our human capabilities. they deserve our gratitude and support. b 1445 On the technical capabilities, it I appreciate the comments of the Victory in an era of terror will not be takes a very, very hard look at the dif- gentleman from Michigan (Mr. HOEK- achieved by military might alone, Mr. ferent programs that we have in place STRA) and thank him and all of the Speaker. Victory will require America there. It makes sure that what we do is members and staff of our hardworking to win the argument for the hearts and put in place programs that will com- committee for their bipartisanship and minds of the next generation in the plement each other, give us the infor- patriotism. As one of our members, the Arab and Muslim world. I fear that we mation that we need, and hopefully put gentleman from Maryland (Mr. are presently losing that argument. us on a framework and on a pathway to RUPPERSBERGER) often says, we put The ongoing revelations about abuses balancing human capabilities with our America first. at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere un- technical capabilities. Our members have made a difference. dermine our ability to maintain the Also in that area, this bill moves for- In April 2004, all nine Democrats on the moral high ground and be seen as a ward and holds some of our contractors Intelligence Committee introduced leg- beacon of democracy and human

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00039 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.077 H21PT1 H4844 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 rights. I am encouraged that our com- hances our global human intelligence funding for the intelligence commu- mittee’s new oversight subcommittee collection capabilities. Human intel- nity’s counterterrorism operations this is investigating abuses that have oc- ligence requires boots on the ground year. That should remove impediments curred in our interrogation and deten- across the globe and those boots need to the intelligence community’s ability tion programs within the intelligence linguistic skills, in-depth cultural and to plan their operations. Maybe this community. This is a serious bipar- tradecraft training, technical tools and will be the year we are able to hunt tisan investigation. But I also support a dedicated support staff to be success- down Osama bin Laden. I certainly a broader public bipartisan inquiry ful. H.R. 2475 provides both the people hope so, and I know we all feel that into detention policies across the gov- and the infrastructure to expand and way. The world will be better off once ernment so that our efforts to fight the improve U.S. human intelligence col- he is taken care of. terrorists do not become a moral black lection in regions around the world. Again, I thank the gentleman from eye for America that undermines our Experts estimate that almost 100 for- Michigan and the gentlewoman from security. eign entities, including both state and California for leading the Intelligence One area where this legislation can nonstate actors, actively engage in es- Committee in a bipartisan fashion. Na- be improved, Mr. Speaker, is in its ap- pionage against the United States. tional security must be a bipartisan proach to technical systems. The de- H.R. 2475 significantly reduces these issue and that is the direction the com- tails of these systems are classified and threats and improves our counterintel- mittee is returning to. cannot be discussed openly. But I am ligence activities. Intelligence is our Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield concerned that we have made sudden, first line of defense. Actionable intel- 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from drastic cuts to certain programs that ligence saves lives and determines bat- New Mexico (Mrs. WILSON), the chair- may lead to a gap in our intelligence tlefield victory. I ask my colleagues to woman of the Subcommittee on Tech- capabilities and erode the industrial support this bipartisan bill and help re- nical and Tactical Intelligence. base needed to develop critical capa- duce the threat and make America Mrs. WILSON of New Mexico. Mr. bilities in the future. I am pleased that more secure. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for the chairman is committed to address- Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I am bringing forward this bill and I want to ing this problem with me as the bill pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gen- thank the ranking member as well for moves to conference. tleman from Iowa (Mr. BOSWELL) who making this a bipartisan bill and work- Overall, Mr. Speaker, this is strong is ranking member of the Sub- ing together. I think a lot of credit also legislation that puts us on the right committee on Terrorism, Human Intel- goes to our very capable staff who have track to achieve victory in an era of ligence, Analysis and Counterintel- worked very hard and very profes- terror. There is more, much more, we ligence, a mouthful that we call HACI. sionally to pull together a very good must do and we will. The brave men (Mr. BOSWELL asked and was given piece of work. and women of the intelligence commu- permission to revise and extend his re- The technical and tactical sub- nity deserve nothing less. marks.) committee has been very active over Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Mr. BOSWELL. Mr. Speaker, I do rise the last 5 months looking at our intel- my time. in support of H.R. 2475. It may not be a ligence systems as they relate to the Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield perfect bill, but there are many, many military and also the high-cost tech- 2 minutes to the gentleman from Ari- good things in it. I am very pleased nical collection programs that our Na- zona (Mr. RENZI), a member of the com- that the bill before us today no longer tion relies on. The members of that mittee. Mr. RENZI. Mr. Speaker, I rise in includes a provision that would have committee have given their personal support of H.R. 2475. As a member of undermined the authorities of Ambas- time and traveled in many instances the Permanent Select Committee on sador Negroponte, the newly appointed across the country, and I wanted to Intelligence from Arizona, securing our director of National Intelligence. My thank the members of the sub- borders has become one of our top pri- colleagues and I put a lot of effort into committee and particularly the gentle- orities. Intelligence and border secu- passing an intelligence reform bill last woman from California (Ms. ESHOO) for rity go hand in hand as America year as was just discussed. We worked working very hard in this area. We strengthens and secures its borders, hard on giving the director of National have tried to understand what works, particularly in the Southwest. This bill Intelligence all the authorities he what is not working, do a detailed re- funds activities necessary to keep needed to make the intelligence com- view of some of these very expensive America safe and, under the gentleman munity function as a community, in- programs, looking at what com- from Michigan’s leadership, for the cluding the authority to transfer peo- plements each other, where the gaps first time this bill helps to provide our ple to new intelligence centers if and as are, where the overlaps are, so that we Nation with actionable intelligence needed. To tie Ambassador can improve our intelligence capability when it comes to border security. Negroponte’s hands before his organi- and make sure that we are using every This legislation addresses the critical zation has been stood up, it did not dollar wisely. need for enhanced counternarcotics seem like a smart thing to do. I would This bill makes several very impor- and counterterrorism collection and not have supported this bill had the tant changes in direction in our intel- analysis throughout Mexico and Cen- provision limiting the DNI’s personnel ligence community. We have found tral and South America. It provides transfer authorities not been taken out that research and development is un- full funding to the director of National of the bill. derfunded pretty much across the en- Intelligence to develop and implement I thank the gentleman from Michi- tire intelligence community and it is a comprehensive intelligence collection gan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) and the gentle- poorly coordinated, both in pathfinding strategy to help stem the illegal flow woman from California (Ms. HARMAN) research and in incremental research of drugs, contraband and special inter- for their efforts to remove this provi- in our current capabilities. est aliens. In addition, this bill author- sion and I thank 9/11 Commission There are several large programs izes the necessary funds to provide the chairmen, Governor Tom Kean and that are significantly off track which intelligence community the resources Congressman Lee Hamilton, for clearly causes a draining of funds away from required to fulfill the intelligence oper- stating their opposition to it. I look other intelligence priorities. We will ations in Iraq and other pressing intel- forward to us addressing the other rec- not give contractors blank checks to ligence missions around the globe. The ommendations by the Commission. It cover cost, schedule, and performance bill increases the funding over last is also my belief that the DNI has to problems that they have failed to man- year that provides additional personnel control the money to be able to fulfill age. We have to control this budget be- billets for linguists, analysts and his charge of responsibility. cause cost overruns compromise other human collection, invests in new facili- I am pleased that this year’s author- intelligence programs and put us as ties and training opportunities, and de- ization bill also fixes the number one Members of Congress in the difficult velops innovative technical tools. issue my colleagues and I raised last position of managing different risks. In line with the President’s prior- year, full funding for counterterrorism This bill strengthens human intel- ities, this legislation significantly en- operations. H.R. 2475 authorizes full ligence. It strengthens our analytical

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00040 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.079 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4845 capability. It strengthens translation encouraged by our efforts to date to moments ago, have greater depth but and language capability. And we insist provide meaningful congressional over- also greater persistence in our over- that systems have to include plans to sight of the entire intelligence commu- sight of key intelligence issues. The task sensors, exploit the bits and bytes nity. We have initiated in-depth re- rules of the full Permanent Select that come out of sensors, and dissemi- views of intelligence community inter- Committee on Intelligence give us our nate information to people who need it. rogation and detention operations, and mandate this year, which include over- If you do not have that, what you real- we are actively pursuing answers to sight of the intelligence reform bill ly have is a science experiment, not an tough questions. We are also moni- that Congress passed last fall. It gives intelligence capability. In short, we toring the standup of the new DNI, en- specific emphasis on items for over- have come forward with an integrated suring that the intelligence commu- sight that include community-wide in- strategic approach to the purchase of nity implements the changes specified formation-sharing, leaks of classified high-cost technologies. in the legislation. information, analysis and information- We have much work yet to do to win Again, I thank the chairman, I thank assuring technologies, as well as audits the war on terrorism. When we win it, the ranking member. We are off to a and investigation and tracking con- it will be because of two things: the fine start and this is an excellent bill. gressionally directed actions. bravery of our soldiers and the superi- The Members should support it. That is our mandate and it is a full ority of American intelligence. I thank Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield plate, but members on both sides of the the gentleman for bringing this bill 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas aisle are going about that agenda forward. I look forward to voting for it. (Mr. THORNBERRY), the chairman of the working in not just a bipartisan but Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, the new Subcommittee on Oversight who has really nonpartisan way. news on our committee is that we have been working very effectively with the And, in addition, I think Members on stood up an oversight subcommittee. gentleman from Alabama (Mr. CRAMER) Much discussion has been made about to do the work that an oversight sub- both sides agree with the Robb-Silber- this already today. committee is expected to do. man panel when they suggest that we It is my pleasure to yield 2 minutes Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Speaker, I should have these oversight sub- to the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. thank the gentleman for yielding me committees, but we should not just hop CRAMER) who is ranking member of the this time, and I rise in support of this around following newspaper articles intelligence oversight subcommittee. bill. I also rise in appreciation for the and doing our efforts, that we ought to Mr. CRAMER. Mr. Speaker, I thank work that the chairman and the rank- have strategic oversight. In fact, they the ranking member, I thank the chair- ing member have done in this bill and say on page 338 of their commission re- man, I thank the staff of both sides of in fulfilling Congress’ role vis-a-vis the port: ‘‘We suggest that . . . the over- the aisle. I stand in enthusiastic and intelligence agencies in general. Fur- sight committees limit their activities strong support of H.R. 2475. This bill ther, I appreciate my partner on the to ’strategic oversight,’ meaning they addresses several issues of great con- oversight subcommittee, the gen- would set an agenda at the start of the year or session of Congress, based on cern to the members of the committee tleman from Alabama (Mr. CRAMER), and, in fact, to all Americans. These and all that he means to this joint ef- top priorities, such as information issues were first raised or detailed by fort. sharing, and stick to that agenda.’’ several blue ribbon commissions that Mr. Speaker, the members of this That is exactly what the gentleman reviewed the performance of the intel- committee are serious, hardworking, from Alabama (Mr. CRAMER) and I are ligence community after 9/11 and by knowledgeable, committed members. attempting to do: to be tough but fair, the Congress in the intelligence reform So much of what we do on the Intel- to not be apologists for the administra- bill that was passed last year. ligence Committee is done behind tion but not to be bashers of the ad- This bill invests in an analytical ini- closed doors. That can be an advantage ministration, to try to pursue the na- tiative that draws on expertise resident and a disadvantage. It is an advantage, tional security interests of the country at three centers: the Missile and Space in a sense, not to do work in front of as it relates to intelligence oversight. Intelligence Center in Huntsville, Ala- the television cameras and without That is the way serious oversight is bama; the National Air and Space In- press releases and without all the par- done, and I look forward to continuing telligence Center in Dayton, Ohio; and tisanship that sometimes attends some to work from that perspective. at the National Ground Intelligence of what we do in Congress. It can be a Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, my Center in Charlottesville, Virginia. disadvantage because we cannot talk home State of California produces These centers will collaboratively as- with our constituents or even many of many of the platforms and systems sess the vulnerabilities of aircraft to our colleagues about what we do. The that give us the technical edge in intel- foreign missiles and other airborne only reason to be on this committee is ligence, and I yield 21⁄2 minutes to the threats and will develop counter- to contribute to the national security gentlewoman from California (Ms. measures to protect commercial air- of the country, and I believe that all ESHOO), my California friend, ranking craft at home and protect military air- members on both sides of the aisle in member of the Technical and Tactical craft for our troops in Iraq and Afghan- fact do that. Intelligence Subcommittee of the Per- istan. The bill provides for much need- At the beginning of this Congress, manent Select Committee on Intel- ed upgrades to information networks in the chairman and the ranking member ligence. these centers, allowing them to elimi- decided to create an oversight sub- nate possible information gaps and to Ms. ESHOO. Madam Speaker, first I committee. It became clear from the would like to thank the gentlewoman integrate stovepiped information. As report of the 9/11 Commission, from the from California (Ms. HARMAN), our dis- recommended by the WMD Commis- Rob Silverman Commission on Weap- sion, this will ensure that analysts and tinguished ranking member, for her ex- ons of Mass Destruction, in fact, a host ceptional leadership on the committee; operators have the information they of other studies and reports, some even need when they need it. certainly to the gentleman from Michi- before the attacks of September 11, gan (Chairman Hoekstra) for the tone Last year’s intelligence legislation 2001, that Congress has to do its job. significantly reformed the intelligence that he has brought to the committee. community. Real reform, however, re- b 1500 I think it is much improved, and I quires accountability and oversight. I It is not enough just to say that the think it is a result of the bipartisan- want to thank the chairman and the executive branch needs to change the ship that we have enjoyed since the ranking member. This year, we have way it does its work in the post-Cold chairman has arrived that we see it in set up, and the gentleman from Texas War world. We have to do our job as this piece of legislation which I am (Mr. THORNBERRY) is here and I assume well, and we should expect more of our- proud to support. is going to speak in a few minutes as selves. I am especially pleased to see the well, this oversight subcommittee. One of the things we have done dif- multilevel security clearance legisla- This oversight subcommittee has been ferently is to create this oversight sub- tion introduced in March by committee working just as it should work. I am committee to, as I mentioned a few Democrats, my colleagues that I am so

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00041 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.081 H21PT1 H4846 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 proud of, that is in this bill. This provi- New York (Mr. MCHUGH), a new mem- worked very closely with the gen- sion will help the intelligence commu- ber of the committee, a very valuable tleman from California (Chairman nity leverage the cultural and lin- member, and also a member of the HUNTER), with the gentleman from Mis- guistic skills of a broader candidate House Committee on Armed Services. souri (Mr. SKELTON), distinguished pool, which is so important to our in- Mr. MCHUGH. Madam Speaker, I ranking member, with respect to our telligence community. thank the chairman for yielding me authorizations. And I would certainly During the markup of this bill, I of- this time. argue that they complement one an- fered an amendment requiring inspec- Madam Speaker, I rise in strong sup- other very closely. To the extent that tors general at the Defense and State port of this legislation, H.R. 2475. As there are differences, and I think dif- Departments, the CIA, and the DNI in- the distinguished chairman so gra- ferences are and will continue to be in- spector general to establish telephone ciously recognized, I am one of the evitable, I know all of us on both sides hotlines for intelligence professionals newer members of this committee; and of the aisle and in both committees to report complaints if they believe I must say in that respect, I am enor- will work to constructively breach policymakers are attempting to unduly mously impressed by the bipartisan at- those differences and bring about or improperly influence them. I think titude that all the members bring to agreements on remaining issues as the that it is an important effort because this very important issue, that of na- authorization process continues. there is a question mark in the mind of tional security and its interface with the American people on this very sub- So I urge unanimous support of this our intelligence communities. That is very fine piece of legislation. ject. a tribute to all of the members, Demo- As a result, the chairman agreed to crat and Republican alike, but I think Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I include language in this bill about the it is a particular tribute to the distin- now yield 2 minutes to the gentleman need to ensure ombudsmen in these guished gentleman from Michigan from New Jersey (Mr. HOLT), ranking member on the Intelligence Policy agencies to fulfill their role to protect (Chairman HOEKSTRA) and also the gen- Subcommittee. analysts and other professionals within tlewoman from California (Ms. HAR- the intelligence community. The com- MAN), ranking member, who have Mr. HOLT. Madam Speaker, I thank mittee made a commitment to perform worked so well together and provided the gentlewoman from California for effective oversight in this matter; so I that leadership of bipartisanship. yielding me this time, and I also thank withdraw my amendment, and I thank The chairman noted, Madam Speak- the chairman and the staff for putting the chairman for that effort. er, that I am a member of the House together in a congenial atmosphere a As the ranking member of the Tech- Committee on Armed Services, and in good bill. nical and Tactical Intelligence Sub- that capacity I have the honor of serv- committee, I am concerned that this There are some good features to the ing as chairman of the Military Per- bill reduces or eliminates funding for bill, and I am pleased that it gives the sonnel Subcommittee; and as such, I several key programs in the adminis- new Director of National Intelligence have been particularly interested in tration’s request without full justifica- the authority and resources necessary programs that aid the warfighter, tion. Missing is an in-depth consider- for him to succeed, and I am also satis- those brave men and women who are ation of the effect that funding reduc- fied that the bill gives the intelligence putting their lives on the line each and tions will have on the overall intel- community 100 percent of the funds every day for our freedoms and for our ligence architecture, the viability of that it needs for counterterrorism pro- interests. And I am pleased to report our industrial base, which is essential. grams. I am encouraged by the bill’s Once that disassembles, we cannot put that this legislation contains very im- emphasis on human intelligence and Humpty Dumpty back together again, portant increases in funding for mili- the recommendation to create a multi- as well as overarching national secu- tary intelligence programs. level security clearance system that In particular, H.R. 2475 includes sig- rity requirements. I hope the DNI and will allow the intelligence community nificant increases in funding for oper- the Secretary of Defense will conduct a to harness the power of America’s di- ations in Iraq, Afghanistan, for the comprehensive review and explain the versity. global war on terrorism, and thereby strategic linkages between collection More must be done, however, to en- requirements, capabilities, and devel- decreases the reliance on supplemental courage the use of open source, or pub- oping programs. This review would bet- budgeting. Budgeting by supplemental, lic, information. Last year we gave the ter support future funding delibera- at least in my opinion, Madam Speak- intelligence community an urging to tions and decisions by the committee. er, is inefficient; and it hinders the ef- increase its collection, analysis, and It is very important that that be done. fective planning of our intelligence op- use of open-source information. And I In closing, I want to express one of erations. And this bill very impor- look forward to working with the DNI my deep concerns, and I know that it is tantly takes a major step away from to move these efforts forward. reliance on those supplementals and the concern that many of my col- I am also pleased that the bill ad- leagues share, and that is the con- seeks to provide full funding to fight terrorism and for intelligence oper- vances our foreign language training tinuing reports of torture and other efforts within the intelligence commu- abuses of detainees. From Abu Ghraib ations in Iraq. There is also increased funding for nity, and I will continue to work with to Guantanamo Bay, the mounting rev- my colleagues to strengthen our lan- elations have become more than an em- critical initiatives such as foreign lan- guage training for our troops in the guage capabilities throughout the Fed- barrassment to our country. They are a eral Government. liability to our deployed servicemem- field and for greater numbers of defense bers. If, in fact, the Congress and its intelligence analysts. This intelligence I do want to express serious concern committees of jurisdiction fail to fully authorization bill builds upon actions about a couple of matters. First, the investigate, I support a special com- already taken by the House Committee administration’s recommendations to mission to do so. We have to have a full on Armed Services dictating a career close or realign military bases has the accounting for the American people path for military linguists, and we potential to disrupt vital intelligence and have the determination to seek should be very proud of this initiative expertise. Bases like Fort Monmouth, that. in these regards. in my home State of New Jersey, play So, in closing, I want to thank my The net result, Madam Speaker, is critical intelligence roles that have not colleagues, the chairman, certainly our that our intelligence personnel and our been taken fully into account in the ranking member, all of my colleagues military will be better trained and process. I would like to thank the on the committee, and most especially equipped to perform their invaluable chairman and ranking member for urg- a superb and dedicated staff. I salute missions. These are important steps, ing the Director of National Intel- them. I respect them for the work that and they have been taken with the nec- ligence to evaluate the effect of base they have done certainly on both sides essary consultation with the Com- realignment on our Nation’s intel- of the aisle. mittee on Armed Services. And I am ligence capabilities, and I will include Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I happy to report that the Permanent their letter at this point in the yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Select Committee on Intelligence has RECORD.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00042 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.083 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4847 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, PER- yielding me this time. She is doing concern that we must be sensitive to the fact MANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON IN- such a superb job on the Permanent Se- that intelligence activities can sometimes in- TELLIGENCE, lect Committee on Intelligence. We trude upon the lives of Americans. In a free Washington, DC, May 26, 2005. thank her for her efforts, along with society, we must have checks and balances. Ambassador JOHN NEGROPONTE, Director of National Intelligence, New Executive the chairman as well. I think we need to appoint a Federal civil lib- Office Building, Washington, DC. Let me say I rise in support of this erties board to prevent and redress constitu- DEAR AMBASSADOR NEGROPONTE: During intelligence authorization bill. In tional abuses by intelligence and law enforce- the markup of the Fiscal Year 2006 Intel- doing so, I want to make a few observa- ment agencies. Although last year’s law cre- ligence Authorization bill, Members of the tions about the state of our national ated a civil liberties board, the administration Committee raised questions about the poten- intelligence capabilities, as well as has yet to name any members to the board, tial impacts that the Defense Department’s some comments about the bill. something that is long overdue. Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) Com- Within the span of 2 years, the Madam Speaker, this is a good bill I believe mission recommendations could have on the nation’s intelligence capabilities. The Mem- United States had two very obvious members should support. I commend the gen- bers believe strongly that such impacts and public examples of intelligence tleman from Michigan, Chairman HOEKSTRA, should be factored into the final decision failures: the September 11, 2001, ter- and the gentlewoman from California, Ranking process. rorist attacks; and the completely in- Member HARMAN, for a job well done. Many intelligence programs, for example, correct conclusions reached about Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I are dependent on subject matter experts Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction pro- yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from made up of military personnel, government grams. These and other failures have California (Mr. HUNTER), the chairman civilians, and contractors. These people form been recognized by both the 9/11 Com- of the House Committee on Armed the analytic depth and breadth of the Intel- Services, and our partner in making ligence Community, as well as much of the mission and the Robb-Silberman Com- core of its engineering, scientific and tech- mission on Weapons of Mass Destruc- sure that we have a solid and strong in- nical expertise. Based on past BRAC experi- tion. telligence community as well as the ences, we can logically assume that many of Last year’s intelligence reform bill best fighting forces, the best military the intelligence personnel that would be af- was an important first step in recti- in the world. fected by the latest recommendations could fying deficiencies in our intelligence Mr. HUNTER. Madam Speaker, I refuse to uproot their families and relocate. capabilities. I believe intelligence is want to thank the chairman for his The Intelligence Community depends on this the tip of the spear. It is the tip of the kind words. It is appropriate that I fol- intellectual capital, and we should well un- spear in helping our warfighters. The low the ranking member of the Com- derstand how the resulting loss of these peo- mittee on Armed Services, the distin- ple would affect intelligence activities and, new Director of National Intelligence thereby, the nation’s security. represents an important benchmark in guished gentleman from Missouri and The BRAC recommendations could affect the creation of a Goldwater-Nichols- his remarks, because he talked about the nation’s intelligence capabilities in like structure for our intelligence com- Goldwater-Nichols, and Goldwater- many other ways. Accordingly, we want to munity. Nichols did drive jointness in the mili- ensure that these intelligence-related im- The Goldwater-Nichols law, as we all tary. pacts be considered in the deliberations that know, altered command relationships Another thing that Goldwater-Nich- result in the final BRAC decisions. We be- among our military services in such a ols did, and it was primarily as a result lieve that your position as the Director of of the debacle in Lebanon with the ma- National Intelligence puts you in a unique way that has fostered joint operations position to best understand and, accordingly, and enabled our military to become the rines, is to drive what was known as respond to these potential impacts. very best in the world. the chain of command rule, meaning Therefore, we ask you to evaluate the af- that when you had a combatant com- 1515 fects of base realignment and closure on the b mander, formerly known as a CINC, nation’s intelligence capabilities. We further I am optimistic that the new director that combatant commander was in ask that you provide the Committee with of Intelligence will be able to unify the charge of everything in that the results of your review no later than the group of disparate intelligence organi- warfighting theater, whether it was a date that the President provides his final ap- zations that comprise the intelligence rivet joint aircraft or a soldier or a ma- proval and certification of the BRAC report community to produce better capa- to the Congress. rine, special operator, or a tactical in- Sincerely, bility, communication, and inoper- telligence gatherer in that area. That PETER HOEKSTRA, ability than has been the case in the was a major issue that we had to work Chairman. past. I am also pleased that the gen- on, and we had to build a seam and a JANE HARMAN, tleman from California (Chairman protection for the chain of command Ranking Member. HUNTER) and the gentleman from and, at the same time, afford to the na- Madam Speaker, I also express my Michigan (Chairman Hoekstra) have tional intelligence gatherers the re- deep disappointment with the decision been able to resolve their differences sources and the opportunity to carry of the Committee on Rules to disallow over the transfer of personnel who per- out their mission. a moderate and reasonable amendment form intelligence functions. I think that the bill, the 9/11 bill did by the gentleman from California (Mr. While the establishment of the direc- a pretty good job of that, and I want to WAXMAN) that would have mandated tor of National Intelligence is an im- commend the gentleman from Michi- the creation of a 9/11-style commission portant step, I believe much more re- gan (Chairman HOEKSTRA) and the gen- to investigate how the executive mains to be done if we are to really im- tlewoman from California (Ranking branch has handled detainees. We need prove our intelligence capability. Member HARMAN) for their participa- that investigation, and we can do some First, I think Congress needs to do a tion in working that. My good col- of it within the committee; but we do better job of overseeing our intel- league, the gentleman from Missouri need a public 9/11-style commission. ligence operations than it has in the (Mr. SKELTON) and I really look for- Madam Speaker, I support this bill, past. My own view is that some of our ward to Mr. Negroponte getting off to and I urge my colleagues to support it intelligence failures could have been the right start. He is a guy with a lot as well. avoided with vigorous congressional of good judgment, great experience in Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I oversight. very difficult and inconvenient and reserve the balance of my time. Second, we need to aggressively fol- dangerous missions, in my estimation, Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I low up on the 9/11 Commission’s and I think that is probably a requisite served for 6 years on the Committee on recommendations. for this job. Armed Services and came to admire We need to expand our efforts to secure I want to thank the gentleman from greatly our next speaker. international stores of nuclear materials, par- Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) also, because Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to ticularly in the nations ofthe former Soviet there were a couple of provisions in the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Union. Governor Kean, co-chair of the 9/11 this bill that we thought had a chain of SKELTON), ranking member. Commission, recently said there is no greater command problem, and he looked at Mr. SKELTON. Madam Speaker, I danger to our country than a terrorist group those and worked on them and took certainly thank the gentlewoman for acquiring these materials. I want to echo his them out in the rule, and I want to let

VerDate Aug 04 2004 01:54 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00043 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.025 H21PT1 H4848 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 him know I appreciate that. That was Let me close by praising the excel- issues, and I want to thank them and important to us. We are working to- lent work of the Armed Forces Medical my majority colleagues for incor- gether, and we both want to see this Intelligence Center and the National porating those issues in this bill and, of new apparatus, this intelligence appa- Security Agency, NSA, based in my course, the majority adding their own ratus that has to work so well with the district. Our committee recognizes approval. defense apparatus moving off to a good their challenges, and we fully support On the plus side, as has been men- new start in this war against terror. their efforts in the global war on ter- tioned, 100 percent funding for counter- So my thanks to the chairman and rorism and in Iraq and Afghanistan. I terrorism in the base budget is a huge thanks to the ranking member. We urge my Democratic colleagues to join step forward. We need to make sure we have a lot of work to do, but we have me in supporting this bill. build on that. The White House pro- a good bill here, and I hope every Mem- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I posal to fund 60 percent of that in a ber supports it. yield myself 2 minutes. supplemental budget would have under- Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I Madam Speaker, as we take a look at mined our plans and operations, so 100 yield myself 15 seconds to say to the the technical programs and we take a percent is a big step in the right direc- last speaker that I applaud his com- look at the structure of the intel- tion. The bipartisan willingness to ments about the need for this new leg- ligence community, at the end of the keenly scrutinize architectural pro- islation to succeed. It is critical, in my day it is about the people in the intel- grams for the quality, for the program view, to move from a 1947 business ligence community. As we have con- management, for the budget responsi- model, which is the one we were oper- ducted our oversight responsibilities in bility, for cost is also important. It is ating under, to this one. developing this bill, we have had the helpful to allow for investments in I also would point out to our col- opportunity to meet and work with human intelligence, and it can bring leagues, as the last speaker knows, many of the intelligence professionals more public confidence to the work we that battlefield intelligence is not in- throughout the community and around do in this area. cluded in the DNI construct that we the world. I believe I can speak for the I think it would be well-placed to put built. rest of my colleagues when I say that that kind of scrutiny on the whole Madam Speaker, it is now my pleas- we hold in the highest regard the work budget at large, and I think we should ure to yield 2 minutes to the gen- accomplished by these dedicated U.S. consider making more of the Select tleman from Maryland (Mr. intelligence community personnel. Committee on Intelligence budget RUPPERSBERGER), a recent addition to At great sacrifice, often under ex- process public, to the extent possible, our committee, who is a very active treme and intense conditions, and at including at least the aggregate member of our new Subcommittee on great personal risk, the men and amount of money being spent so that Oversight. women of the intelligence community the public will be able to focus on that Mr. RUPPERSBERGER. Madam continue to perform their missions and have more confidence. Speaker, as my colleagues have point- with great energy, professionalism, and The best intelligence oversight be- ed out, a lot of good, hard, work has devotion to the national security mis- gins with looking at the 9/11 Commis- been put into this bill, which places sion. I commend these patriots for sion’s recommendations for reform of our committee and the intelligence their heroism, their integrity, and Congress’s intelligence committees. We community on the path of success for their perseverance. These honorable still need to do a considerable amount achieving the goals set forth in the rec- people form the first line of defense for of work there concerning how those ommendations of the 9/11 Commission our Nation. Our freedoms and the very committees will be formulated and and the WMD Commissions. The turf security of our country rely on their what budgetary appropriation aspect battles are ending and we now have a successes. Those successes are things will be within what body. We need re- director of National Intelligence to we cannot and do not often have the newed oversight, and the Sub- oversee and coordinate efforts, but we opportunity to talk about. committee on Oversight that has been all must work together in order to Unfortunately, and quite wrongly, it formed and mentioned earlier is an im- make sure that the DNI can succeed. is the rare but overlooked publicized provement. Its time would be well I thank the gentleman from Michi- failures that they are credited with. I spent if we ensure that the DNI and the gan (Chairman HOEKSTRA) and the gen- stand here today and say thank you to DNI office is set up largely in line with tlewoman from California (Ranking these tremendous people. They deserve Commission recommendations. We do Member HARMAN) for leading by exam- our support, and that is what we are not need another sprawling bureauc- ple and promoting bipartisan efforts in doing with this legislation today. racy. It will be well-served to have a our oversight role. I also want to thank Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- streamlined executive staff that uti- our staff for their hard work. ance of my time. lizes existing agencies and moves for- Our newly established Subcommittee Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I as- ward on that basis. And it has to have on Oversight has already taken the sociate myself totally with the com- the authority to ensure that the net- reins of leadership and is investigating ments that our chairman just made. work agencies are reformed, coordi- the abuses that have occurred in our Madam Speaker, it is now my pleas- nated, and effective. It also needs the interrogation and detention programs. ure to yield 21⁄4 minutes to the gen- authority to make sure that we have These abuses only serve to embolden tleman from Massachusetts (Mr. the appropriate budgetary and per- terrorist actions against us and it in- TIERNEY), our rookie on our side. sonnel powers within the DNI to work. creases risk to our military forces and Mr. TIERNEY. Madam Speaker, I The DNI should follow the rec- American citizens abroad. These abuses thank the gentlewoman for yielding me ommendation of the blue ribbon com- also hurt our reputation abroad and this time. mission to establish a Civil Liberties allow the insurgents to recruit people I rise to discuss H.R. 2475. It is a bill Board and ensure that it effectively to attack us. that, as people have said, takes a num- protects the civil liberties, even as we I also look forward to continuing ber of steps to strengthen our intel- make sure aggressive intelligence work with my colleagues on solutions ligence capabilities and, for those rea- measures are pursued. This too is es- to the security clearance challenges sons, is supportable. Nevertheless, like sential to maintain public trust. It is faced by the intelligence community most bills, it has parts that need to be as important as it is to require that we and State and local governments who moved on and worked on still. use taxpayer money wisely, and it is need to access information to protect As was mentioned, I am new to this every bit as essential that our intel- our homeland. This bill’s endorsement committee, so first I want to recognize ligence operate within the law. of a multilevel security clearance sys- the efforts of all of my colleagues on Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I tem will enhance flexibility in hiring the committee and the staff who did in- yield myself 2 minutes. practices and access to information. credible work on this. I also want to Madam Speaker, I would like to get Current clearance wait times some- acknowledge the fact that my minority to some of the specifics of the legisla- times exceed a year. Terrorists will not colleagues have been outspoken during tion. I want to make an observation wait a year, and neither can we. the past couple of years on a number of about the overall position we have

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00044 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.087 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4849 taken. It is my belief, and we have seen weighing, measuring, and finding want- create such a strong structure for in- it today, that we may be harshly criti- ing that has gone on in this bill needs telligence. cized by some for being too bold or ag- further review, that the balance can be The Cold War is over. The world is a gressive with some of our actions. In- better struck. more dangerous place. We need to be deed, we have already been told that I look forward to working with the able to not contain and react to an we were not incremental enough. I chairman on a better balance as this event; we need to be able to detect and want to take head-on those who take bill comes to conference, keeping in prevent it. It means that we need very such positions. mind that we want a positive-sum out- good intelligence, both intelligence di- There is no question that what is come. rected with technology and intel- being proposed today is bold and sweep- Madam Speaker, it is now my pleas- ligence that occurs from very good ing in some areas. Without getting into ure to yield 1 minute to the gentleman human capital. the classified specifics, based on our from New York (Mr. CROWLEY), a very I think the gentleman from Michigan strategic review, we are cutting back serious Member of this body, not on (Mr. HOEKSTRA) and our incredible dramatically in some cases, on some our committee. ranking member, the gentlewoman technical programs that have had poor Mr. CROWLEY. Madam Speaker, I from California (Ms. HARMAN), have performance or could be modified for thank my gentle friend and colleague done an excellent job in drafting this better utility for the Nation’s intel- from California for yielding me this legislation. My compliments to both of ligence efforts. time. them. They give credit to the full Con- We are terminating some programs I rise in strong support of the na- gress and the work that they have that we do not believe fit in the overall tional intelligence bill. I want to thank done. architecture for the intelligence com- the committee for its great work. I es- Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I munity. We have analyzed these pro- pecially want to focus my praise on the thank the last speaker for his generous grams extensively, asked the tough gentlewoman from California (Ranking words and ask how much time remains on each side. questions, and focused on the resulting Member HARMAN) for her great work in The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. intelligence output. To paraphrase leading on this issue. It was Demo- MILLER of Michigan). The gentlewoman from a Hollywood movie line, these crats, led by the gentlewoman from from California (Ms. HARMAN) has 8 programs have been weighed, they have California (Ms. HARMAN) and the gen- minutes remaining. The gentleman been measured, and they have been tleman from Florida (Mr. HASTINGS), from Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) has 81⁄2 found wanting. that pushed the 9/11 Commission to be minutes remaining. We are then taking the resulting sav- started last year, as the Republicans Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, we ings and applying that to historically and the White House blocked their at the moment have no other speakers underfunded areas in the human intel- work and opposed their mission. I be- on the floor. And I reserve the right to ligence and human capital areas. Spe- lieve the Republicans fear the truth close for our side. cifically, we are focusing needed em- that may come from that Commission. Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- phasis on adding human intelligence Later, when the 9/11 Commission ance of my time. specialists, improving the training of issued its recommendations and the Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, we analysts, improving the training of Speaker said he would not implement have no additional speakers at this case officers, and making more robust any legislative changes without a ma- time either, so I believe I have the the infrastructure necessary to gain jority of the majority, it was again right to close. The gentlewoman will their expertise, and then better employ Democrats and the gentlewoman from close on her side, and we will have no that expertise. California (Ms. HARMAN) who led the additional speakers. I will close on our We have quite simply in the past paid fight for a real intelligence shakeup side. too much lip service to those basic and for the creation of a director of Na- Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I needs, while continuing to fund expen- tional Intelligence. yield myself the balance of our time. sive technical programs that, although Madam Speaker, the last 4 years b 1530 important, do not make up for the lack have witnessed two of the worst intel- of analysts, lack of worldwide cov- Democrats fixed those problems and ligence failures in our Nation’s history. erage, lack of training, and lack of fought back changes this year to bring Congress passed intelligence reform basic infrastructure. In sum, we are us back to the bad old days of intel- and created the DNI position to give doing the heavy lifting that should ligence turf wars. the brave women and men of the intel- have been done long ago. We are acting This bill reflects the new world we ligence community the tools they need boldly and positively on the task our live in, a dangerous world that has got- to collect and analyze accurate and former chairman gave us. ten more dangerous since September timely intelligence. Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- 11; and we need to be involved, and We cannot have any more cata- ance of my time. more heavily involved, to protect all strophic failures where we fail to con- Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I Americans, no matter where they are nect the dots or believe too fervently yield myself 1 minute to comment on on this planet and the bill does that. in the claims of bogus sources. This the remarks the chairman just made. Representing one of the most diverse legislation, the authorization bill we Madam Speaker, it is not a zero-sum congressional districts in the U.S., I are considering today, is the first fund- game, it is not a trade-off between interact with a number of immigrants ing bill under our new intelligence or- what we call HUMINT, that is, human and their families who are from every ganization. intelligence, which is primarily the use corner of the globe. And the one thing It is a strong bill that deserves our of spies to tell us the plans and inten- that unifies them all is their love of support. As we said earlier, for the first tion of the bad guys, and technology. It this great country. And they can and time we fully funded counterterrorism is a positive-sum game, or we hope it is will be helpful in helping this country in the base budget so we can plan CT a positive-sum game, that balances infiltrate terror networks that threat- operations against our enemies. For correctly our investments in HUMINT en our country. the first time we have urged the DNI to and our investments in technology. This bill will help them do that. create multitier security clearances so I said earlier that my home State of Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I we can field a diverse group of intel- California makes many of the tech- yield 2 minutes to my colleague, the ligence officers who speak the lan- nical platforms that we use effectively gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. guages and understand the cultures of to gather intelligence. I agree with our SHAYS). our adversaries. chairman that we should take a clear- Mr. SHAYS. Madam Speaker, I want I am proud to say these were two eyed look at what works and what does to just first compliment the chairman ideas offered by the committee Demo- not work and what capabilities we need and ranking member for their excellent crats that gained bipartisan support in to defeat present and future threats. work on this legislation, their excel- our committee. As I have said, there But some of us, I would say a majority lent work in general, and frankly the are ways this bill can be improved fur- on the minority side, believe that the work that they have done in helping to ther. And I look forward to working on

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Before the thank again the hard-working mem- he has come to personify the position, person- intelligence reform bill passed last bers on both sides of the committee alize the management of this nation’s scarce year, he was one of the few senior in- who put so much effort into it day intelligence collection assets, confound his telligence officers who could get 15 dis- after day, and moreover the hard-work- early critics, and overall achieve positive re- parate agencies to function as a com- ing staff on a bipartisan basis. sults beyond even the expectations of his sup- munity. He did that mainly through And let me just identify those on the porters, who are legion. His service has been sheer force of personality. minority side who are sitting on the a great asset, and Congress has regularly Our Nation collects intelligence floor with me today: David Buckley, drawn upon his experience and judgment. through a variety of means, from spies staff director; Chuck Gault, deputy A native of North Carolina, Mr. Allen has on the ground to satellites overhead, staff director; Jeremy Bash, general served the Central Intelligence Agency and and everything in between. In his ca- counsel; Mike DeLaney; Larry the Nation with distinction since 1958, holding pacity as the assistant director for col- Hanauer; John Keefe; Pam Moore; a variety of positions of increasing responsi- lection, Charlie got the collectors to Wyndee Parker, special counsel; and bility both in analytic and managerial capac- understand that they were most effec- Christine York. They make us look ities. He served overseas in an intelligence li- tive when they worked together as a good, and I urge passage of this legisla- aison capacity from 1974 to 1977, and from team against the hardest targets. tion before us. 1977 to 1980 he held management positions He got them to understand that inte- Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal- of increasing responsibility and importance in grated collection strategies yielded the ance of my time. the Directorate of Intelligence. best outcomes. Under Charlie’s leader- (Mr. HOEKSTRA asked and was Mr. Allen served as program manager of a ship, the collectors in the intelligence given permission to revise and extend major classified project, from 1980 to 1982 in community have scored some truly im- his remarks, and include extraneous the Office of the Director of Central Intel- pressive victories, and it is unfortunate material.) ligence, and was subsequently detailed to the that these cannot be recounted in pub- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I Office of the Secretary of Defense where he yield myself the balance of my time. lic. held a senior position in strategic mobilization I will just tell you that Charlie’s Madam Speaker, today before closing planning. general debate, I would like to briefly service to the Nation was made clear to In 1985 the Director of Central Intelligence me the day he told the committee that offer congratulations and recognition requested Mr. Allen’s return from the Sec- to Mr. Charles G. Allen, as many of us he had been with the CIA for nearly 50 retary of Defense’s office to serve as the Na- years. That is an astounding record, know him, Charlie, as he completes his tional Intelligence Officer for Counterterrorism, tour of duty as the assistant director of and it is certainly appropriate as we and later as Chief of Intelligence in the CIA’s close debate on what I think is one of the Central Intelligence Agency for newly established Counterterrorist Center. collection. the best authorization bills ever, that Many of Mr. Allen’s successes have and shall we recognize Charlie’s service to our He has served the intelligence com- continue to remain secret, but two that have munity with great distinction, and I Nation. become more publicly known illustrate his con- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, in will later seek consent in the House to tributions; he played a key role in appre- submit a more lengthy tribute into the closing, again I would like to thank my hending the hijackers who killed an American colleagues on the other side of the RECORD. citizen on the cruise ship Achille Lauro, and But just briefly, he is a native of aisle, the staff on both sides of the he correctly brought to the DCI’s attention cer- aisle who have worked to put together North Carolina. Mr. Allen has served tain matters which served to stimulate the the Central Intelligence Agency and a very, very good bill, my colleagues on Iran-Contra investigation. my side of the aisle. the Nation with distinction since 1958, Mr. Allen served as the National Intelligence We have put together, I think, a holding a variety of positions of in- Officer for Warning from 1988 to 1994 and very, very strong bill. I think it de- creasing responsibility, both in analyt- chaired the Intelligence Community’s Warning serves broad bipartisan support. It sets ical and managerial capacity. He Committee. From these positions he issued us in the right direction. As my col- served overseas in an intelligence liai- timely warnings of events of momentous im- league has indicated, there is more son capacity from 1974 to 1977, and portance, confounding most intelligence offi- work to do. We do need to take a look from 1977 to 1980 he held management cers who did not share his prescience. positions of increasing responsibility Mr. Allen was awarded the National Intel- at the technical programs. These are and importance in the Directorate of ligence Medal for Achievement in 1983 by DCI critical to the long-term success of our Intelligence. Casey and the President’s Award for Distin- intelligence community, to make sure I think that all of the Members in guished Federal Civilian Service in 1986 by that public policymakers have the in- the House, and all of the Members and President Reagan. In 1991, he was presented formation that we need to make the the staff on the committee who have the CIA Commendation Medal for provision of right decisions. gotten to know Mr. Allen over the last warning intelligence in Desert Shield/Desert I appreciate the gentlewoman from number of years, number one, we are Storm. California’s (Ms. HARMAN) support as glad that he is still working on special He and his wife, Kay, reside in Herndon, we have gone through this process and assignment with Mr. Goss; but we real- Virginia, where they raised four children. recognizing that there are issues and ly want to extend our congratulations Madam Speaker, Mr. Allen has already en- concerns about the performance of to him for almost slightly over 45 years joyed a long and luminous career in intel- some of these programs and so that we of service to this country within the ligence, and as he steps down from his cur- have the agreement on that. intelligence community, a real na- rent position I hope all my colleagues will rec- Where we are disagreeing and having tional asset in the intelligence busi- ognize the extraordinary contributions Mr. some discussions right now is what is ness. Charles E. Allen has made to our National Se- the most effective way to respond to Madam Speaker, I include for the curity as a lifelong professional intelligence of- those problems and issues. We want ac- RECORD a statement on Assistant Di- ficer. I hope my colleagues will honor him as countability. We want performance. We rector Allen. a great American and pioneer in the manage- want to spend the taxpayer dollars Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I rise ment of intelligence collection inter alia. wisely. And I am sure that as we con- today to offer congratulations and recognition Finally, Madam Speaker, I ask my col- tinue to go through this process, work to Mr. Charles E. Allen as he completes his leagues to join me in expressing our con- with our colleagues on the other side of tour of duty as the Assistant Director of Cen- fidence in his continued ability and willingness this building, and work with the ad- tral Intelligence for Collection. Since its cre- to serve the Nation as she shall call upon him. ministration, we will come to a conclu- ation by the Congress 7 years ago, he has Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, will sion, hopefully, that we can all agree served in this position with distinction. the gentleman yield? to. Mr. Allen was appointed as the first Assist- Mr. HOEKSTRA. I yield to the gen- I applaud the committee and our ant Director of Central Intelligence for Collec- tlewoman from California. work in taking some of these steps

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00046 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.092 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4851 that I think we all recognize needed to The Commission concluded that more cen- Chairman Kean also emphasized what has be taken and that we are committed to tralized management of the intelligence com- long been known to Members of the Intel- addressing those problems. munity was needed, and that the manager had ligence Committee: the greatest danger facing With that, Madam Speaker, I would to have considerable power over people and the United States is a terrorist attack involving encourage my colleagues to support money. The first Director of National Intel- weapons of mass destruction, and the best this bill. ligence, Ambassador Negroponte is now in of- way to address that is to safeguard or destroy Ms. PELOSI. Madam Speaker, the pre- fice. He faces a daunting task. We all hope he WMD components, especially nuclear mate- amble to the Constitution tells us that one of is successful in it. rial, at its source. the first responsibilities of the Federal govern- That is why it was so surprising and regret- Intelligence plays a huge role in efforts to ment is to ‘‘provide for the common defense.’’ table that the Intelligence Committee, over the combat proliferation of nuclear material and My 10 years on the House Intelligence objections of Congresswoman HARMAN and technology, but money is needed to better Committee have given me an appreciation for the other Democratic Members, chose to wel- protect or acquire these materials in the coun- the vital role the men and women in our intel- come him with an effort to restrict his power. tries where they were developed. We are sim- ligence agencies play in doing just that. What a terribly negative message that provi- ply not providing enough resources to this ef- Many of them take extraordinary risks on a sion sent about the commitment of the major- fort. daily basis in an effort to gather the informa- ity to intelligence reform. This bill is much im- Finally, the 9/11 Commissioners have been tion policy makers and military commanders proved with that provision removed, as the clear in their assessment that, unless Con- need to make sound decisions. They are rule has done. gress overhauls the procedures by which it deeply dedicated to preserving our country’s The impetus for this ill-advised action report- oversees the work of the intelligence agen- security, and each of us is grateful for their edly came from officials in the Department of cies, intelligence reform will not be successful. hard work and sacrifice. Defense. We created the position of DNI to The House has not undertaken the kind of They need an intelligence system that is as help address the interagency squabbling that comprehensive review of the oversight proc- strong, smart, and competent as they are, and leads to intelligence failures. This is simply no ess that the Commission believes to be nec- this bill takes several strong steps towards place for power grabs or bureaucratic self-pro- essary. I have let the Speaker know, repeat- making sure we have that system. tection and preservation on the part of the edly, that Democrats are prepared to work co- I want to commend Chairman HOEKSTRA Pentagon. operatively on this review. It is imperative that and Ranking Member HARMAN for their leader- Just as it was an intelligence authorization we begin this task soon—we have already ship and hard work in making sure that this bill that created the 9/11 commission, I had waited far too long. legislation addresses not only the immediate hoped that this intelligence authorization would This bill enjoys broad bipartisan support needs of the intelligence community, but helps include Mr. WAXMAN’s proposal to create a from members of the Committee, and I intend plan for the future as well. commission to investigate the prisoner abuses to support it. In doing so, however, I urge that However, it would be a mistake for us to in Afghanistan, at Abu Ghraib, and at Guanta- the House dedicate itself to finishing the job pass this bill and declare that our work is done namo. begun last fall with the adoption of the 9/11 in- That will not occur as a result of actions and that we have fulfilled our responsibility to telligence reform bill and address completely taken by the Republican majority on the Rules the intelligence community and the American all of the recommendations of the 9/11 Com- Committee. For our international standing, our people. mission. sense of fairness and decency, and to estab- It has now been more than 1,700 days Mr. EVERETT. Madam Speaker, I rise today lish more effective means of intelligence gath- since the September 11th terrorist attacks in strong support of H.R. 2475, the Intelligence ering, these abuses must be examined. changed our Nation, and laid bare the holes in As former Ambassador Thomas Pickering, Authorization Bill for fiscal year 2006. As one of several ‘‘cross-over’’ members our intelligence gathering system. attorney Floyd Abrams, and our former col- It has been 11 months since the inde- who serve on both the Intelligence and Armed league Bob Barr wrote in The Washington pendent 9/11 Commission issued its findings Services Committees, this legislation strikes a Post on June 7: ‘‘This is a time when we and made its recommendations about how to should be making extra efforts to reach out to reasonable balance between our national intel- close those gaps. Muslims and to ask them to work with us in ligence needs, and the needs of our It has been nearly a year since the Senate the war against terrorism. Instead, our failure warfighters. As we know from our work on the Intelligence Committee concluded that our in- to undertake a thorough and credible inves- Intelligence Reform Act last fall, this is not an telligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruc- tigation has caused severe resentment of the easy task. tion capabilities was fundamentally flawed—a United States.’’ Madam Speaker, it would be disingenuous conclusion that was recently confirmed by the Some of those who opposed most strongly to state that all is well within the Intelligence Presidential Commission on the Intelligence an independent investigation of the 9/11 at- Community. For a number of years, the Select Capabilities of the United States Regarding tacks also oppose an independent investiga- Committee on Intelligence has been system- Weapons of Mass Destruction. tion of the prisoner abuse scandal. That is un- atically identifying major shortfalls in providing In part, this bill provides the resources the acceptable. for our foreign intelligence needs. These in- intelligence community needs to prepare for But just as the American people would not clude: funding shortfalls, major limitations in the future by learning from mistakes made in accept the initial refusal to establish a 9/11 human intelligence, limited capabilities in for- the past. However, these recent reports—no- Commission, so too will demands continue for eign language specialists, aging information tably those of the 9/11 Commission and the an independent commission to investigate the technology systems, and the lack of strategic Robb-Silberman Commission—point to the prisoner abuses in Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, planning with regard to the Intelligence Com- need to do far more than simply fund the intel- and elsewhere. munity’s overhead intelligence collection pro- ligence community. Our country’s standing in the eyes of the grams. These two commissions made many rec- world depends on getting to the bottom of the Madam Speaker, this bill represents a major ommendations for significant change in the prisoner abuse matter—a fact that will ulti- step forward in correcting many of these prob- way the intelligence agencies operate and are mately force the majority of this House to stop lems by funding programs, operations, and overseen by Congress, the way the intel- placing obstacles in the path of a full and personnel that are vital to the security of the ligence community is managed, and in other independent inquiry. United States. The policies and programs in matters associated with better protecting the Unfortunately this is not the only initiative this bill will enable us to strengthen our intel- American people from the threats posed by this Congress has failed to act on. Despite the ligence capabilities to ensure that we are pro- terrorists, particularly terrorists armed with unanimity with which they were adopted and viding the best foreign intelligence efforts pos- weapons of mass destruction. the near universal acclaim they have pro- sible. It was an intelligence authorization bill that duced, some critical recommendations made In particular, this bill begins to balance the established the 9/11 Commission, and it is by the 9/11 Commission have gone unfulfilled. resources applied to technical collection pro- therefore appropriate that in the context of the For example, Chairman Kean pointed earlier grams with those applied to human source debate on this authorization measure, and this month to the failure to allocate more of collection. In years past, funding cuts greatly with the first anniversary of the release of the the broadcast spectrum to first responder reduced the Intelligence Community’s ability to Commission’s report and recommendations communications as ‘‘almost a scandal.’’ Con- provide global collection and analytic cov- fast approaching, we reflect on the rec- gresswoman HARMAN has been a leader in try- erage. The global war on terrorism has led to ommendations that have been implemented, ing to resolve this problem and I congratulate increased funding, but there is still only limited and on those that have not. her for her efforts. capability to focus on other issues around the

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Therefore, at my direc- analytic tools, increased personnel and better At a time when the threats to u.s. national tion the bill includes specific funding increases tools to enable information sharing. security are so great, H.R. 2475 supports the to allow for expanded modeling and simulation Fourth and finally, this legislation continues effort to provide our leaders with focused, of foreign systems, exploitation of foreign mis- the efforts begun in the Intelligence Reform timely intelligence. I urge my colleagues to sile systems, and all-source missile event and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 to support this legislation and once again, I con- analysis. strengthen and define the authorities and re- gratulate my chairman on his outstanding ef- Madam Speaker, this bill puts a great deal sponsibilities of the Director of National Intel- fort. of emphasis on getting the Intelligence Com- ligence. Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I munity ‘‘back to the basics.’’ In short, this bill The Intelligence Community is our first-line yield back the balance of my time. continues to correct the systemic problems of defense against an elusive and The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time that left us underprepared for warning against unstructured threat that has shown willingness for debate on the bill has expired. terrorist attacks on America, and begins the to harm America. It is vital that this community AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MRS. MALONEY process of returning human intelligence collec- has the resources and authorities necessary Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I tion to a worldwide endeavor. to effectively target both the terrorist threats of offer an amendment. I feel that this is a good bill that balances today as well as new threats of tomorrow. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The the increased investment against critical prior- H.R. 2475 provides those resources. Clerk will designate the amendment. ities with procedures for effectively monitoring I strongly urge my colleagues to support this The text of the amendment is as fol- the wise investment of the taxpayers’ money. legislation in the bipartisan manner that our lows: national security efforts demand. Madam Speaker, I urge my colleagues to sup- Amendment offered by Mrs. MALONEY: port H.R. 2475. Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Madam At the end of title III (page 14, after line Mr. TIAHRT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support Speaker, I rise in strong support of H.R. 2475, 23) insert the following: of H.R. 2475, ‘‘The Intelligence Authorization the Intelligence Authorization Act of 2006. I SEC. 310. REPORTS ON FAILURE TO TIMELY IM- Act for Fiscal Year 2006’’. I thank my friend congratulate Chairman HOEKSTRA for pre- PLEMENT THE NATIONAL COUNTERTERRORISM CENTER. and colleague from Michigan for yielding me senting a strong bill that addresses our major intelligence requirements. (a) INITIAL REPORT ON FAILURE TO MEET this time. DEADLINES IMPOSED UNDER LAW.—Not later For almost 4 years, the U.S. Intelligence Madam Speaker, as chair of the Intelligence Policy Subcommittee, I have been tasked to than 30 days after the date of the enactment Community has been at the forefront of the of this Act, the President shall provide writ- Global War on Terror. Working long hours, look at the vast range of threats faced by the ten notice to Congress explaining the failure under often primitive conditions, the men and United States, and work to ensure that the in- of the executive branch to implement the women of the Intelligence Community have telligence services devote the necessary re- National Counterterrorism Center, as estab- performed spectacularly under the most sources to respond to those threats. lished under section 119 of the National Se- As we consider this bill, we are in the midst curity Act of 1947, as added by section 1021 of stressing of operational tempos. The legisla- of a war with a vicious enemy—a war on ter- the National Security Intelligence Reform tion before us today authorizes the funding rorism that must be won. Our troops are also Act of 2004 (title I of the Intelligence Reform necessary to support the men and women of engaged in a bloody effort to stabilize Iraq. and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004; Public the Intelligence Community and to keep our Our war-fighters must have timely, accurate Law 108–458), by the deadlines imposed under section 1097(a) of such Act for the implemen- country safe. However, a sufficient balance information about the enemy, and this bill must be maintained between fighting terror tation of such Center, including the failure makes every effort to guarantee that intel- by the President to nominate an individual and maintaining global awareness of emerging ligence is provided. Thus, there is an essential threats. Therefore, the legislation before us to serve as Director of the National force protection component to this authoriza- Counterterrorism Center. lays the budgetary and programmatic ground- tion. (b) SUBSEQUENT MONTHLY UPDATES.—The work that will ensure that the U.S. Intelligence But we cannot focus solely on the collection President shall provide to Congress monthly Community is prepared and able to face the of near-term, tactical battlefield intelligence. updates to the initial notice to Congress challenges and national security threats of the We must also ensure that our political leaders under subsection (a) until the National future. have good information about big picture Counterterrorism Center is fully imple- mented and operational. First and foremost, this legislation provides threats to U.S. interests globally. the appropriate balance between technical, The Intelligence Community must focus its The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- human and open source collection. resources on the nuclear programs in Iran, ant to House Resolution 331, the gen- This bill provides sufficient funds to ensure North Korea, and other major proliferators of tlewoman from New York (Mrs. that the U.S. retains its technical collection weapons of mass destruction. MALONEY) and a Member opposed each edge for the next 20 years. It also increases We must fully understand the ongoing mili- will control 15 minutes. the resources necessary to provide a strong, tary modernization of China, and know how The Chair recognizes the gentle- global human and open source intelligence Beijing intends to use its emerging capabili- woman from New York (Mrs. collection capability. Achieving this balance re- ties. Russia remains a nuclear superpower MALONEY). quired some hard choices on several highly with thousands of nuclear warheads, and pru- Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I regarded technical collection systems, how- dence dictates we have good intelligence re- yield myself such time as I may con- ever, the Committee was able to reach bipar- garding Russia’s intentions. sume. tisan consensus on the need to eliminate The behavior of these important nations can Our amendment requires the Presi- some redundant or outdated systems. have a deep impact on our national security, dent to keep the Congress and the Second, this legislation strengthens innova- and the United States must not become the American people updated monthly on tion across the Intelligence Community. victim of a ‘‘strategic surprise’’. the progress of the implementation and The legislation includes a significant in- To protect our people and inform our polit- operation of the National Counterter- crease in the resources devoted to advanced ical leaders, we must have the capability to rorism Center until it is fully imple- research and technology development includ- collect good, accurate information. It is in- mented and operational. ing increased funding for new sensors and creasingly difficult to predict where the next The Congress and the President rec- platforms, data mining and information assur- crisis may erupt, but our leaders must have ognize the National Counterterrorism ance technologies. To ensure that these re- the ability to anticipate significant events. Center as a critical office for the safety sources are used wisely, this legislation also H.R. 2475 places much needed emphasis of our country. The Congress and the strengthens the authorities and responsibilities on our collection and analysis capabilities. I President agreed that it had to be up of the Intelligence Community’s Chief Sci- am pleased that this bill increases the invest- and running, fully operational and entist. ment in human intelligence and the capabili- fully staffed, by June 17, 2005, or last Third, this legislation revitalizes our intel- ties they provide for us. Friday. ligence analysis and production capabilities. It provides additional resources for profes- While director Admiral John Redd Our intelligence community analysts are fre- sional training and language education for in- was nominated on June 10, he has yet quently asked to turn fragmentary and seem- telligence officers being deployed overseas. to be confirmed by the Senate, and he

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The and staffed NCTC is a goal that must fident that the Permanent Select Com- Clerk will report the modification. be attained as quickly as possible. mittee on Intelligence, under the lead- The Clerk read as follows: The National Counterterrorism Cen- ership of the gentleman from Michigan Amendment as modified, offered by Mrs. ter was a core element of the Intel- (Mr. HOEKSTRA) and the ranking mem- MALONEY: ligence Reform and Terrorism Preven- ber, the gentlewoman from California At the end of title III (page 14, after line tion Act of 2004. The center must be (Ms. HARMAN), will relentlessly mon- 23) insert the following: the central organization for analyzing itor the implementation of these im- SEC. 310. REPORTS ON FAILURE TO TIMELY IM- PLEMENT THE NATIONAL and integrating all foreign and domes- portant deadlines. It is too important COUNTERTERRORISM CENTER. tic intelligence on terrorism. to the safety of the American people. (a) INITIAL REPORT ON FAILURE TO MEET It also is to conduct strategic oper- Just as the Goldwater-Nichols bill DEADLINES IMPOSED UNDER LAW.—Not later ational planning for counterterrorism unified the Army, Navy, and Air Force than 30 days after the date of the enactment operations at home and abroad, inte- into a single effective fighting force, so of this Act, the Director of National Intel- grating all elements of national power. too does the intelligence reform legis- ligence shall provide written notice to Con- In short, the NCTC was created to lation draw together the isolated ele- gress explaining the failure of the executive bring all of the pieces together to pre- ments of the intelligence community branch to implement the National Counterterrorism Center, as established vent a future attack. The Congress and into a unified shield to protect the under section 119 of the National Security the President established June 17, last American people. Act of 1947, as added by section 1021 of the Friday, as the deadline for the NCTC. The basic function of the NCTC is to National Security Intelligence Reform Act Unfortunately, we cannot stand here prevent another 9/11. As someone who of 2004 (title I of the Intelligence Reform and today and say that it is fully oper- represents a city that was attacked on Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004; Public ational and fully implemented. This is 9/11, we owe it to the victims and to all Law 108–458), by the deadlines imposed under not the only deadline in this important Americans to put this central defense section 1097(a) of such Act for the implemen- bill to be missed. I have a chart that I mechanism against future attacks in tation of such Center, including the failure by the President to nominate an individual requested from the Congressional Re- place. We must fulfill the promise of to serve as Director of the National search Service. It is an 8-page chart of this functional restructuring of the in- Counterterrorism Center. deadlines. telligence community for the safety of (b) SUBSEQUENT MONTHLY UPDATES.—The And what CRS found is no fewer than the American people. Director of National Intelligence shall pro- 22 deadlines have been missed in the For me, the intelligence bill was the vide to Congress monthly updates to the ini- first 6 months of this bill becoming most important bill we passed since I tial notice to Congress under subsection (a) law. And many other important dead- have been in this Congress, and I am until the National Counterterrorism Center lines are looming. Some of the dead- deeply grateful to the families of the is fully implemented and operational. lines we have missed include: devel- victims who fought so hard for the en- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without oping a national transportation strat- actment of this bill along with the objection, the amendment is modified. egy, a number of port security stra- President and my colleagues in this There was no objection. tegic plans, and streamlining the secu- Congress. Mr. HOEKSTRA. Reclaiming my rity clearance process. Our amendment is a step towards im- time, I thank my colleague, the gentle- We must keep the implementation of plementing this important bill. woman from New York (Mrs. MALONEY) this bill on track; hence the need for Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- for that change. this amendment. This is not to say ance of my time. I think the reason we are accepting that there has not been substantial Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I the amendment is in the spirit that it progress. Prior to the NCTC being cre- rise to claim the time in opposition to was offered by my colleague from New ated in law, President Bush created the the amendment, but I do not object to York and, I believe, my colleague from NCTC last August by executive order. the amendment. Connecticut. We on the committee, the This center has operated for months The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. gentlewoman from California (Ms. under the direction of an interim direc- MILLER of Michigan). Is there objection HARMAN) and myself have laid down as tor. A positive step towards the goal of to the gentleman from Michigan con- one of the parameters and one of the implementation took place on June 10 trolling the time in opposition? things that we expect from the over- when Retired Vice Admiral John Redd There was no objection. sight subcommittee is to vigorously was nominated to be the permanent di- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I and aggressively track the implemen- rector of the NCTC. yield myself such time as I may con- tation of the intelligence reform bill. sume. I agree in the time that the gentle- b 1545 Madam Speaker, I will not oppose woman and I have been in Congress to- I would like to note that when we this amendment. I believe the author gether until we pass Federal prison in- originally submitted this amendment will have a perfecting amendment. dustries reform, this will be one of the to the Committee on Rules on June 2, Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, most significant pieces of legislation no NCTC director had been nominated. will the gentleman yield? that we will have worked on together. Upon confirmation, the new director Mr. HOEKSTRA. I yield to the gen- There are some talking points on the and Ambassador Negroponte will be tlewoman from New York. technicality as to what ‘‘fully oper- faced with a number of issues before Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I ational’’ means, and those types of full implementation. Chief among appreciate very much the gentleman things; and whether it is fully oper- these issues is working out the incon- from Michigan (Chairman HOEKSTRA) ational now and whether it could have sistencies between the statute and the not opposing my amendment and all been fully operational before June 17, executive order. The existing inconsist- the hard work that he and the gentle- because that is when the law came into encies which have been identified by woman from California (Ms. HARMAN) effect, we fully understand and appre- CRS hold much danger of creating con- did on the intelligence bill. ciate the concern that the gentle- fusion which could undermine the max- I would like to note the concern that woman has in bringing this amendment imum functioning of the NCTC. the gentleman reported to me or gave forward, that we on the committee and Another example of these inconsist- to me about the reporting requirement. that Congress and the American people encies relates to the danger that the MODIFICATION TO AMENDMENT OFFERED BY be fully informed as to the progress we tactic supplied to foreign intelligence MRS. MALONEY are making in implementing the intel- collection may be applied against U.S. Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I ligence reform bill. citizens. Thus, the importance of a ro- ask unanimous consent that the We are committed to doing that. We bust Civil Liberties Board, the begin- amendment be modified to accept are committed to staying informed on

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Madam approach that we accept this amend- I thank her for her very hard work and Speaker, I rise to show my support for the ment. the work again of the gentleman from men and women who work in the intelligence Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) and the gen- community each day sacrificing their lives so ance of my time. tlewoman from California (Ms. HAR- that we may remain safe. This measure, H.R. Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I MAN). 2475, does authorize 100 percent of the fund- yield such time as she may consume to I rise, obviously, in support of this ing requests made by the community, which is the gentlewoman from California (Ms. amendment that we are offering, as a positive departure from the measure pro- HARMAN), the ranking member. amended, which would require the di- posed in 2005, which funded only 26 percent Ms. HARMAN. Madam Speaker, I rector of National Intelligence to pro- of the requests. In addition, this legislation im- thank the gentlewoman for yielding me vide Congress written explanation why proves upon the President’s request of only 40 time. I want to commend her and the the National Counter Terrorism Cen- percent of the community’s counterterrorism gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. ter, NCTC, is not fully operational funding needs. This departure is important be- SHAYS) for the enormous work they did since the June 17 deadline set forth in cause this measure is the first authorization outside the intelligence committee. As Public Law 108–458. bill to come to the floor since passage of the we were considering the intelligence The Joint Inquiry and the 9/11 Com- Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention reform legislation last year, the faces mission both found that the lack of in- Act of 2004 (P.L. 108–458)—the families of that I saw on a constant basis were formation-sharing and coordination the victims of 9/11 as well as the entire inter- theirs and the families. And I often within the intelligence community led national community still look to us for respon- have said that the families were the to numerous missed opportunities to sible action in the area of intelligence. wind beneath our wings. I would add a detect and prevent September 11 ter- I also applaud the Committee’s inclusion of couple of Members of Congress to that, rorist attacks. provisions for the recruitment and clearing of too, and I thank them for all they did. The establishment of the NCTC was a personnel adept in language skills necessary I am very pleased that the majority key 9/11 Commission recommendation to truly aid our intelligence-gathering and proc- is accepting the amendment. It is a and an integral part of the effort to in- essing initiative. good idea for us to make absolutely crease information-sharing and coordi- clear that the NCTC, the National nation among intelligence agencies. However, I join my colleagues in dis- Counter Terrorism Center, is a vital The director will serve a critical agreeing with Section 305 of the bill as re- piece of the reform we enacted last function in our Nation’s intelligence ported out of Committee. This section gives year and that it needs to be fully oper- capability, as he will report to the congressional committees a ‘‘pocket veto’’ of ational ASAP. President and to the director of Na- the personnel transfers that the new Director To explain further, one of the big tional Intelligence. of National Intelligence might recommend. Ab- mistakes we made leading up to 9/11 is The NCTC, once fully operational, sent passage of the Manager’s Amendment everyone now knows our failure to con- will be the Nation’s primary agency for offered by Mr. HOEKSTRA, this provision will nect the dots. Obviously, having a fu- now analyzing terrorist threats and contravene much of the authority conferred in sion center designed for this purpose is planning counterterrorism operations the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Preven- a very good way to make sure we do at home and abroad. tion Act that was signed into law by the Presi- not fail to connect the dots the next The deadline by which the NCTC was dent last year. Public Law 108–458 contains time. required by law to be fully operational provisions that I offered that deal with com- So it took, I would say, the introduc- has passed, and while I am pleased the mercial alien smuggling such as penalty en- tion of this amendment to cause the President nominated Vice Admiral hancement as well as an outreach section that President to nominate a very able fel- John Redd as the Center’s permanent would require publication of the enhancements low, Vice Admiral Redd, to be the di- director on June 10, I wish Congress by DHS to act as a deterrent. rector of the NCTC. He did that 2 days had received this nomination sooner I support the amendment that will be offered after this amendment was presented in than a week before the deadline so that by my colleague from New York, Mrs. the Committee on Rules. And perhaps the Center could have been operational MALONEY that would require a report to Con- now that we are accepting it as part of on time. gress until the Director of the National today’s debate, the NCTC will become The bottom line is it has been done. Counterterrorism Center has been confirmed fully operational even before that pris- We are making progress. I thank the and until the Center is fully functional. on reform bill is enacted. gentleman from Michigan (Mr. HOEK- Madam Speaker, for the reasons above In conclusion, Madam Speaker, I STRA) for accepting this amendment stated, I support the legislation with reserva- strongly support this. I support the and the gentlewoman from California tions. team that has brought this to us. And (Ms. HARMAN) as well. It is an amend- Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I I would note to this body, that bill last ment that I think deserves passage and yield back the balance of my time. year that we worked so hard on gets its I thank them for accepting it. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- real sea legs today as the House takes Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I ant to House Resolution 331, the pre- this necessary step in funding its crit- yield myself the balance of my time. vious question is ordered on the bill ical parts and in making clear that we I thank my colleagues for working and the amendment, as modified, of- will not accept any efforts to roll back through this amendment and making fered by the gentlewoman from New the jurisdiction of the DNI, who is the necessary changes. As I indicated York (Mrs. MALONEY). going to be the commander of the tip of earlier, we are willing to accept this The question is on the amendment, the spear in this era of terror. amendment. as modified, offered by the gentle- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Madam Speaker, I Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal- woman from New York (Mrs. reserve the balance of my time. ance of my time. Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I Mrs. MALONEY. Madam Speaker, I MALONEY). yield such time as he may consume to yield myself the balance of my time. The amendment, as modified, was the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. I thank the gentleman from Michi- agreed to. SHAYS), and I commend his leadership gan (Chairman HOEKSTRA) for accept- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The and support on this amendment and his ing the amendment. Certainly certain question is on the engrossment and hard work on the intelligence reform issues are above partisan politics. The third reading of the bill. committee. We both had many victims defense, the protection of our Nation, The bill was ordered to be engrossed that were lost from our respective dis- intelligence reform, is certainly among and read a third time, and was read the tricts and we worked closely through- them. third time.

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MOTION TO RECOMMIT OFFERED BY MR. WAXMAN (12) The extent to which the United States as the Commission or such designated sub- Mr. WAXMAN. Madam Speaker, I complied with the applicable provisions of committee or designated member may deter- offer a motion to recommit with in- the Geneva Conventions of 1949, and the ex- mine advisable. structions. tent to which the United States may have (2) SUBPOENAS.— The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the violated international law by restricting the (A) IN GENERAL.—A subpoena may be issued access of the International Committee of the under this subsection only— gentleman opposed to the bill? Red Cross to detainees. Mr. WAXMAN. I am, Madam Speak- (i) by the agreement of the chairman and (13) The extent to which the United States the vice chairman; or er, in its current form. complied with the applicable provisions of (ii) by the affirmative vote of 6 members of The SPEAKER pro tempore. The other human rights treaties, including the the Commission. Clerk will report the motion to recom- International Covenant on Civil and Polit- (B) SIGNATURE.—Subject to subparagraph mit. ical Rights and the Convention Against Tor- (A), subpoenas issued under this subsection The Clerk read as follows: ture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading may be issued under the signature of the Mr. Waxman of California moves to recom- Treatment or Punishment. chairman or any member designated by a mit the bill H.R. 2475 to the Permanent Se- SEC. 503. COMPOSITION OF COMMISSION. majority of the Commission, and may be lect Committee on Intelligence with instruc- (a) MEMBERS.—The Commission shall be served by any person designated by the tions to report the same back to the House composed of 10 members, of whom— chairman or by a member designated by a forthwith with the following amendment: (1) 1 member shall be appointed by the majority of the Commission. At the end, add the following new title: President; (3) SCOPE.—In carrying out its duties under TITLE V—ESTABLISHMENT OF INDE- (2) 1 member shall be jointly appointed by this Act, the Commission may examine the PENDENT COMMISSION TO INVES- the minority leader of the Senate and the actions and representations of the current TIGATE DETAINEE ABUSES minority leader of the House of Representa- Administration as well as prior Administra- tives; tions. SEC. 501. ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMISSION. (3) 2 members shall be appointed by the There is established in the legislative (b) CONTRACTING.—The Commission may, majority leader of the Senate; branch the Independent Commission on the to such extent and in such amounts as are (4) 2 members shall be appointed by the Investigation of Detainee Abuses (in this provided in appropriation Acts, enter into Speaker of the House of Representatives; contracts to enable the Commission to dis- title referred to as the ‘‘Commission’’). (5) 2 members shall be appointed by the mi- SEC. 502. DUTIES. charge its duties of this Act. nority leader of the Senate; and (c) INFORMATION FROM FEDERAL AGEN- (a) INVESTIGATION.—The Commission shall (6) 2 members shall be appointed by the mi- conduct a full, complete, independent, and CIES.— nority leader of the House of Representa- (1) IN GENERAL.—The Commission may se- impartial investigation of intelligence and tives. intelligence-related activities carried out in cure directly from any executive depart- (b) QUALIFICATIONS; INITIAL MEETING.— ment, bureau, agency, board, commission, of- Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Endur- (1) NONGOVERNMENTAL APPOINTEES.—An in- ing Freedom, and any operation within the fice, independent establishment, or instru- dividual appointed to the Commission may mentality of the Federal Government, infor- Global War on Terrorism in connection with not be an officer or employee of the Federal abuses of detainees, including but not lim- mation, suggestions, estimates, and statis- Government or any State or local govern- tics for the purposes of this Act. Each de- ited to the following: ment. (1) The extent of the abuses. partment, bureau, agency, board, commis- (2) OTHER QUALIFICATIONS.—Individuals sion, office, independent establishment, or (2) Why the abuses occurred. that shall be appointed to the Commission (3) Who is responsible for the abuses. instrumentality shall, to the extent author- should be prominent United States citizens, ized by law, furnish such information, sug- (4) Whether any particular Department of with national recognition and significant Defense, Department of State, Department gestions, estimates, and statistics directly to depth of experience in such professions as the Commission, upon request made by the of Justice, Central Intelligence Agency, Na- governmental service, law enforcement, the tional Security Council, or White House poli- chairman, the chairman of any sub- armed services, law, public administration, committee created by a majority of the cies, procedures, or decisions facilitated the intelligence gathering, international human detainee abuses. Commission, or any member designated by a rights and humanitarian law, and foreign af- majority of the Commission. (5) What policies, procedures, or mecha- fairs. nisms failed to prevent the abuses. (2) RECEIPT, HANDLING, STORAGE, AND DIS- (3) DEADLINE FOR APPOINTMENT.—All mem- SEMINATION.—Information shall only be re- (6) What legislative or executive actions bers of the Commission shall be appointed should be taken to prevent such abuses from ceived, handled, stored, and disseminated by within 45 days following the enactment of members of the Commission and its staff occurring in the future. this Act. (7) The extent, if any, to which Guanta- consistent with all applicable statutes, regu- (4) CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.—The lations, and Executive Orders. namo Detention Center policies influenced chairman and vice chairman of the Commis- policies at the Abu Ghraib prison and other (d) ASSISTANCE FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES.— sion shall be elected by a majority vote of Departments and agencies of the United detention centers in and outside Iraq. the members. (b) ASSESSMENT, ANALYSIS, AND EVALUA- States may provide to the Commission such (5) MEETINGS.—The Commission shall meet services, funds, facilities, staff, and other TION.—During the course of its investigation and begin the operations of the Commission under subsection (a), the Commission shall support services as they may determine ad- as soon as practicable. After its initial meet- visable and as may be authorized by law. assess, analyze, and evaluate relevant per- ing, the Commission shall meet upon the call SEC. 505. PUBLIC HEARINGS. sons, policies, procedures, reports, and of the chairman or a majority of its mem- (a) PUBLIC MEETINGS AND RELEASE OF PUB- events, including but not limited to the fol- bers. LIC VERSIONS OF REPORTS.—The Commission lowing: (c) QUORUM; VACANCIES.—Six members of (1) The Military Chain of Command. the Commission shall constitute a quorum. shall— (2) The National Security Council. Any vacancy in the Commission shall not af- (1) hold public hearings and meetings to (3) The Department of Justice. fect its powers, but shall be filled in the the extent appropriate; and (4) The Department of State. same manner in which the original appoint- (2) release public versions of the reports re- (5) The Office of the White House Counsel. ment was made. quired under section 509. (6) The Defense Intelligence Agency and (d) CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.—Each member (b) PUBLIC HEARINGS.—Any public hearings the Central Intelligence Agency. appointed to the Commission shall be inde- of the Commission shall be conducted in a (7) The approval process for interrogation pendent of any agency, individual, or institu- manner consistent with the protection of in- techniques used at detention facilities in tion that may be the subject of investigation formation provided to or developed for or by Iraq, Cuba, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. by the Commission. the Commission as required by any applica- (8) The integration of military police and SEC. 504. POWERS OF COMMISSION. ble statute, regulation, or Executive order. military intelligence operations to coordi- (a) IN GENERAL.— SEC. 506. STAFF OF COMMISSION. nate detainee interrogation. (1) HEARINGS AND EVIDENCE.—The Commis- (a) APPOINTMENT AND COMPENSATION.—The (9) The roles and actions of private civilian sion or, on the authority of the Commission, chairman and the vice chairman jointly, in contractors in the abuses and whether they any subcommittee or member thereof, may, accordance with rules agreed upon by the violated the Military Extraterritorial Juris- for the purpose of carrying out this title— Commission, may appoint and fix the com- diction Act or any other United States stat- (A) hold such hearings and sit and act at pensation of a staff director and such other utes or international treaties to which the such times and places, take such testimony, personnel as may be necessary to enable the United States is a party. receive such evidence, administer such Commission to carry out its functions. (10) The role of nongovernmental organiza- oaths; and (b) DETAILEES.—Any Federal Government tions’ warnings to United States officials (B) subject to paragraph (2)(A), require, by employee may be detailed to the Commis- about the abuses. subpoena or otherwise, the attendance and sion. (11) The role of Congress and whether it testimony of such witnesses and the produc- (c) CONSULTANT SERVICES.—The Commis- was fully informed throughout the process tion of such books, records, correspondence, sion is authorized to procure the services of that uncovered these abuses. memoranda, papers, and documents, experts and consultants.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00051 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.100 H21PT1 H4856 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 SEC. 507. COMPENSATION AND TRAVEL EX- the purpose of concluding its activities, in- mit the bill for the purpose of adding PENSES. cluding providing testimony to committees the gentleman from California’s (Mr. (a) COMPENSATION.—Each member of the of Congress concerning its reports and dis- WAXMAN) amendment. Commission may be compensated at a rea- seminating the final report. Military historians often talk about sonable rate for each day during which that SEC. 511. FUNDING. member is engaged in the actual perform- the ‘‘fog of war.’’ I believe our intel- (a) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.— ligence professionals operate in a fog of ance of the duties of the Commission. There is authorized to be appropriated funds (b) TRAVEL EXPENSES.—While away from not to exceed $5,000,000 for purposes of the law, a confusing patchwork of treaties, their homes or regular places of business in activities of the Commission under this Act. laws, memos and policies. the performance of services for the Commis- (b) DURATION OF AVAILABILITY.—Amounts Article I, section 8 of the Constitu- sion, members of the Commission shall be al- made available to the Commission under tion says that it is Congress’ responsi- lowed travel expenses, including per diem in subsection (a) shall remain available until bility to establish rules concerning lieu of subsistence. the termination of the Commission. captures on land and water. I hope that SEC. 508. SECURITY CLEARANCES FOR COMMIS- SION MEMBERS AND STAFF. Mr. WAXMAN (during the reading). we will seize this responsibility. (a) IN GENERAL.—Subject to subsection (b), Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous con- But as Congress studies the policy the appropriate Federal agencies or depart- sent that the motion be considered as options going forward, it is vital that ments shall cooperate with the Commission read and printed in the RECORD. we have the facts. Only a bipartisan, in expeditiously providing to the Commis- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there independent commission can get to the sion members and staff appropriate security objection to the request of the gen- bottom of what happened among ad- clearances to the extent possible pursuant to tleman from California? ministration policymakers within the existing procedures and requirements. There was no objection. military chain of command and out in (b) EXCEPTION.—No person shall be pro- the field. vided with access to classified information b 1600 The steady stream of revelations under this title without the appropriate re- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. quired security clearance access. about Guantanamo and other facilities MILLER of Michigan). Pursuant to the SEC. 509. REPORTS OF COMMISSION; TERMI- around the world erode our moral NATION. rule, the gentleman from California credibility, just as we are trying to win (a) INTERIM REPORTS.—The Commission (Mr. WAXMAN) is recognized for 5 min- the hearts and minds of the Arab and may submit to Congress and the President utes in support of his motion. Muslim world. interim reports containing such findings, Mr. WAXMAN. Madam Speaker, this It is vital to our national security, conclusions, and recommendations for cor- motion to recommit would amend the Mr. Speaker, that we fix this problem rective measures as have been agreed to by a bill to add language establishing an so that our detention and interrogation majority of Commission members. independent commission to examine policies get us actionable intelligence (b) FINAL REPORT.—Not later than 18 months after the date of the enactment of detainee abuses. without creating a whole new genera- this Act, the Commission shall submit to In the year since the horrific photo- tion of terrorist recruits. Pretending Congress and the President a final report graphs of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib that there is no problem is not a strat- containing such findings, conclusions, and surfaced, more and more instances of egy for success. recommendations for corrective measures as detainee abuse from a growing number So in conclusion, Mr. Speaker, our have been agreed to by a majority of Com- of locations around the world have committee, on a bipartisan basis, is mission members. come to light. looking into these issues through our (c) FORM OF REPORT.—Each report prepared The reports of detainee abuse are un- Subcommittee on Oversight. I com- under this section shall be submitted in un- dermining one of our Nation’s most classified form, but may contain a classified mend our progress; but in addition, I annex. valuable assets: our reputation for re- think the public will have more con- (d) RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE PUBLIC CER- spect for human rights. fidence in what we are doing if we also TAIN CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.—If the Com- The Pentagon’s internal investiga- have an outside, independent commis- mission determines that it is in the public tions of the abuse allegations have re- sion. interest that some or all of the information sulted in conflicting conclusions. Some In that spirit, I support the Waxman contained in a classified annex of a report of these reports have been little more motion to recommit. under this section be made available to the than whitewashes. Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Speaker, the fail- public, the Commission shall make a rec- Congress has failed to conduct a com- ommendation to the congressional intel- ure to have an investigation of de- ligence committees to make such informa- prehensive public investigation of de- tainee abuse is eroding our moral tion public, and the congressional intel- tainee abuse allegations at Guanta- standard in the world. It is also endan- ligence committees shall consider the rec- namo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and other gering our Armed Forces and inciting ommendation pursuant to the procedures facilities. We have abdicated our con- hatred against the United States. As under subsection (e). stitutional duty to conduct responsible Senator BIDEN said about Guantanamo, (e) PROCEDURE FOR DECLASSIFYING INFOR- oversight. it is the greatest propaganda tool for MATION.— My motion to recommit would fill the recruitment of terrorists world- (1) The procedures referred to in subsection the huge oversight gap. A lack of over- (d) are the procedures described in— wide. (A) with respect to the Permanent Select sight leads to a lack of accountability, Some of the allegations that have Committee on Intelligence of the House of and no accountability breeds arrogance been repeated over and over again may Representatives, clause 11(g) of Rule X of the and abuse of power. not be true. In fact, I hope they are not Rules of the House of Representatives, One It is time for this House to take our true. President Bush calls them absurd, Hundred Ninth Congress; and oversight responsibility seriously, and but we do not know what is true and (B) with respect to the Select Committee I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on the motion to what is not unless we investigate; and on Intelligence of the Senate, section 8 of recommit. when we refuse to conduct a thorough, Senate Resolution 400, Ninety-Fourth Con- Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentle- gress. independent, credible investigation, (2) In this section, the term ‘‘congressional woman from California (Ms. HARMAN), the rest of the world thinks we have intelligence committees’’ means— the ranking member of the Permanent something to hide. (A) the Permanent Select Committee on Select Committee on Intelligence, my The independent commission estab- Intelligence of the House of Representatives; colleague. lished by this proposal would establish and Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank a 10-member bipartisan commission (B) the Select Committee on Intelligence the gentleman for yielding to me and modeled on the successful 9/11 commis- of the Senate. commend him for sponsoring this no- sion. I think we need this. I think we SEC. 510. TERMINATION. tion of an independent commission to need it badly. (a) IN GENERAL.—The Commission, and all look at detainee abuses. If the Congress had done its job of the authorities of this Act, shall terminate Mr. Speaker, though I am a strong oversight, we might well say the job is 60 days after the date on which the final re- port is submitted under section 509(b). supporter of this legislation, I think it done and we do not need to do anything (b) ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES BEFORE would be even better if it included lan- further; but Congress has done rel- TERMINATION.—The Commission may use the guage to establish this commission, atively little on this whole matter. The 60-day period referred to in paragraph (1) for and so I support the motion to recom- reports that have been issued by the

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00052 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.045 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4857 various investigative agencies have fortable over what he’s done.’’ What Etheridge Lynch Ruppersberger Evans Maloney Rush been in conflict. did he do? ‘‘In a time of war, make an Farr Markey Ryan (OH) This is why I ask my colleagues to inflammatory libel against his coun- Fattah Matsui Sabo support this motion to recommit. Vote try’s military that has no value what- Filner McCarthy Salazar ‘‘aye.’’ soever except to America’s enemies.’’ Ford McCollum (MN) Sa´ nchez, Linda Frank (MA) McDermott T. Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I rise We are better than those who oppose Gonzalez McGovern Sanchez, Loretta in opposition to the motion to recom- us. Our oversight has exposed our Gordon McIntyre Sanders mit. weaknesses. Now is the time to move Green, Al McKinney Schakowsky The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Green, Gene McNulty Schiff on. Grijalva Meehan Schwartz (PA) tleman from Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) To quote from President Roosevelt’s Gutierrez Meek (FL) Scott (GA) is recognized. ‘‘Man in the Arena’’ speech: ‘‘It is not Harman Meeks (NY) Scott (VA) Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I am a the critic who counts, not the man who Hastings (FL) Melancon Serrano little confused, as I listened to those on Higgins Menendez Sherman points out how the strong man stum- Hinchey Michaud Skelton the other side as to whether we have or bles or where the doer of deeds could Hinojosa Millender- Slaughter have not done oversight. The author of have done them better.’’ Holden McDonald Smith (WA) the amendment says there has been no Holt Miller (NC) Snyder I want this Congress to be seen as a Honda Miller, George Solis oversight. My ranking member ap- doer of deeds. If we fail, we fail while Hooley Mollohan Spratt plauds the work that the committee daringly great. To do anything less Hoyer Moore (KS) Stark has done in its role of doing oversight would be unworthy of the House of Inslee Moore (WI) Strickland on a bipartisan basis. Israel Moran (VA) Stupak Representatives. Jackson (IL) Murtha Tanner Mr. Speaker, we are at a time of war Self-loathing of America on the floor Jackson-Lee Nadler Tauscher that was not begun by the making of of this House accomplishes nothing but (TX) Napolitano Taylor (MS) the United States. We are at war fueling the fires abroad that seek to de- Jefferson Neal (MA) Thompson (CA) against an international terrorist Johnson, E. B. Oberstar Thompson (MS) stroy America’s democracy and our Jones (OH) Obey Tierney movement that has engaged our coun- way of life. I encourage my colleagues Kanjorski Olver Towns try in a clash of values driven by those to vote ‘‘no’’ on this motion to recom- Kaptur Ortiz Udall (CO) who fundamentally oppose American Kennedy (RI) Owens Udall (NM) mit. Kildee Pallone Van Hollen democracy and freedom. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Kilpatrick (MI) Pascrell Vela´ zquez The 9/11 Commission emphasized the objection, the previous question is or- Kind Pastor Visclosky importance of engaging the terrorists dered on the motion to recommit. Kucinich Payne Wasserman in the ‘‘struggle of ideas,’’ noting that Langevin Pelosi Schultz There was no objection. Lantos Peterson (MN) Waters many views in the Muslim world of the The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Larsen (WA) Pomeroy Watson United States are ‘‘at best uninformed question is on the motion to recommit. Larson (CT) Price (NC) Watt about the United States and, at worst, Leach Rahall Waxman The question was taken; and the Lee Rangel Weiner informed by cartoonish stereotypes Speaker pro tempore announced that Levin Reyes Wexler among intellectuals who caricature the noes appeared to have it. Lipinski Ross Woolsey U.S. values and policies. Local news- Lofgren, Zoe Rothman Wu Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Speaker, I object Lowey Roybal-Allard Wynn papers and the few influential satellite to the vote on the ground that a broadcasters, like al Jazeera, often re- quorum is not present and make the NAYS—228 inforce the jihadist theme that por- point of order that a quorum is not Abercrombie Davis, Jo Ann Hobson trays the United States as anti-Mus- present. Aderholt Davis, Tom Hoekstra lim.’’ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- Akin Deal (GA) Hostettler Mr. Speaker, comments that signifi- Alexander DeLay Hulshof dently a quorum is not present. cantly exaggerate and overstate the Bachus Dent Hunter The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- Baker Diaz-Balart, L. Hyde situation in Guantanamo Bay do noth- sent Members. Barrett (SC) Diaz-Balart, M. Inglis (SC) ing but reinforce the false perceptions Bartlett (MD) Doolittle Issa The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- of America that have encouraged our Barton (TX) Drake Istook ant to clause 8 and clause 9 of rule XX, enemies. Bass Dreier Jenkins this 15-minute vote on the motion to Beauprez Duncan Jindal There is aggressive oversight under recommit will be followed by 5-minute Biggert Ehlers Johnson (CT) way by the executive branch and by Bilirakis Emerson Johnson (IL) votes, if ordered, on passage of H.R. Congress into our detention proce- Bishop (UT) English (PA) Johnson, Sam 2475 and on the motions to suspend the Blackburn Everett Jones (NC) dures. It is only because of this aggres- rules previously postponed in the fol- Blunt Feeney Keller sive oversight and the freedoms pro- Boehlert Ferguson Kelly lowing order: vided by American democracy that we Boehner Fitzpatrick (PA) Kennedy (MN) H.J. Res. 52, by the yeas and nays, are having this discussion in the first Bonilla Flake King (IA) H. Con. Res. 160, by the yeas and Bonner Foley King (NY) place. The system is working properly, nays, Bono Forbes Kingston and we should continue to let it work; Boozman Fortenberry Kirk H. Con. Res. 180, de novo. and for those who do not know about Boustany Fossella Kline The vote was taken by electronic de- Bradley (NH) Foxx Knollenberg the work that is going on, perhaps they vice, and there were—yeas 197, nays Brady (TX) Franks (AZ) Kolbe could ask. Brown (SC) Frelinghuysen Kuhl (NY) So when senior Members of Congress, 228, not voting 8, as follows: Brown-Waite, Gallegly LaHood including a member of the minority [Roll No. 289] Ginny Garrett (NJ) Latham Burgess Gerlach LaTourette leadership in the Senate, exaggerate YEAS—197 Burton (IN) Gibbons Lewis (CA) and distort these issues, including by Ackerman Brady (PA) Crowley Buyer Gilchrest Lewis (KY) comparing American soldiers to Nazis, Allen Brown (OH) Cuellar Calvert Gillmor Linder Andrews Brown, Corrine Cummings Camp Gingrey LoBiondo those comments do nothing but rein- Baca Butterfield Davis (AL) Cannon Gohmert Lucas force the false prejudices abroad that Baird Capps Davis (CA) Cantor Goode Lungren, Daniel have led us to war. Baldwin Capuano Davis (FL) Capito Goodlatte E. As an example, I note that the al Barrow Cardin Davis (IL) Castle Granger Mack Bean Cardoza DeFazio Chabot Graves Manzullo Jazeera network gave prominent cov- Becerra Carnahan DeGette Chocola Green (WI) Marchant erage to the remarks of a Member of Berkley Carson Delahunt Coble Gutknecht Marshall the Senate comparing the actions of Berman Case DeLauro Cole (OK) Hall Matheson Berry Chandler Dicks Cox Harris McCaul (TX) U.S. soldiers to Nazis, Soviet gulags, Bishop (GA) Clay Dingell Cramer Hart McCotter and a mad regime like Pol Pot’s Khmer Bishop (NY) Cleaver Doggett Crenshaw Hastings (WA) McCrery Rouge in Cambodia. Blumenauer Clyburn Doyle Cubin Hayes McHenry A columnist in the Chicago Sun Boren Conyers Edwards Culberson Hayworth McHugh Boswell Cooper Emanuel Cunningham Hefley McKeon Times said of those remarks: ‘‘He Boucher Costa Engel Davis (KY) Hensarling McMorris should at least be made a little uncom- Boyd Costello Eshoo Davis (TN) Herger Mica

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00053 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.103 H21PT1 H4858 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Miller (FL) Radanovich Sodrel Davis (IL) Jackson-Lee Obey Tiberi Walsh Wexler Miller (MI) Ramstad Souder Davis (KY) (TX) Olver Tierney Wamp Whitfield Miller, Gary Regula Stearns Davis (TN) Jefferson Ortiz Towns Wasserman Wicker Moran (KS) Rehberg Sullivan Davis, Jo Ann Jenkins Osborne Turner Schultz Wilson (NM) Musgrave Reichert Sweeney Davis, Tom Jindal Otter Udall (CO) Watt Wilson (SC) Myrick Renzi Tancredo Deal (GA) Johnson (CT) Oxley Udall (NM) Waxman Wolf Neugebauer Reynolds Taylor (NC) DeFazio Johnson (IL) Pallone Upton Weiner Wu Ney Rogers (AL) Terry DeGette Johnson, E. B. Pascrell Van Hollen Weldon (FL) Wynn Northup Rogers (KY) Vela´ zquez Weldon (PA) Thomas Delahunt Johnson, Sam Pastor Young (AK) Norwood Rogers (MI) Thornberry DeLauro Jones (NC) Pearce Visclosky Weller Nunes Rohrabacher Walden (OR) Westmoreland Tiahrt DeLay Jones (OH) Pelosi Nussle Ros-Lehtinen Tiberi Dent Kanjorski Peterson (MN) Osborne Royce NAYS—16 Turner Diaz-Balart, L. Kaptur Peterson (PA) Otter Ryan (WI) Upton Diaz-Balart, M. Keller Petri Conyers McKinney Stark Oxley Ryun (KS) Duncan Oberstar Walden (OR) Dicks Kelly Pickering Waters Paul Saxton Kennedy (MN) Pitts Jackson (IL) Owens Walsh Dingell Watson Pearce Schwarz (MI) Kennedy (RI) Platts Kucinich Paul Wamp Doggett Woolsey Peterson (PA) Sensenbrenner Kildee Poe Lee Payne Weldon (FL) Doolittle Petri Shadegg Kilpatrick (MI) Pombo McDermott Rangel Weldon (PA) Doyle Pickering Shaw Kind Pomeroy Weller Drake Pitts Shays King (IA) Porter NOT VOTING—8 Westmoreland Dreier Platts Sherwood King (NY) Price (GA) Carter Lewis (GA) Sessions Whitfield Edwards Poe Shimkus Kingston Price (NC) Conaway Murphy Young (FL) Wicker Ehlers Pombo Shuster Kirk Pryce (OH) Herseth Pence Porter Simmons Wilson (NM) Emanuel Emerson Kline Putnam Price (GA) Simpson Wilson (SC) Knollenberg Radanovich b 1647 Pryce (OH) Smith (NJ) Wolf Engel English (PA) Kolbe Rahall So the bill was passed. Putnam Smith (TX) Young (AK) Kuhl (NY) Ramstad Eshoo The result of the vote was announced NOT VOTING—8 Etheridge LaHood Regula Langevin Rehberg as above recorded. Carter Lewis (GA) Sessions Evans Everett Lantos Reichert A motion to reconsider was laid on Conaway Murphy Young (FL) Larsen (WA) Renzi Herseth Pence Farr the table. Fattah Larson (CT) Reyes Latham Reynolds Stated for: b 1639 Feeney Ferguson LaTourette Rogers (AL) Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Speaker, I was de- Mrs. KELLY, Mr. BUYER, and Mr. Filner Leach Rogers (KY) tained and unable to cast a vote on H.R. Levin ABERCROMBIE changed their vote Fitzpatrick Rogers (MI) 2475, the Intelligence Authorization Act for (PA) Lewis (CA) Rohrabacher from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ Flake Lewis (KY) Ros-Lehtinen FY06, on June 21, 2005. I was enroute to Messrs. GONZALEZ, ETHERIDGE Foley Linder Ross Brownwood, Texas to attend the funeral of and CHANDLER changed their vote Forbes Lipinski Rothman Lance Corporal Mario Castillo, a Marine from LoBiondo Roybal-Allard from ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’ Ford the 11th District of Texas. Please let the Fortenberry Lofgren, Zoe Royce So the motion to recommit was re- Fossella Lowey Ruppersberger RECORD reflect that had I been here, I would jected. Foxx Lucas Rush have voted ‘‘yes.’’ The result of the vote was announced Frank (MA) Lungren, Daniel Ryan (OH) E. Ryan (WI) f as above recorded. Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Lynch Ryun (KS) AUTHORIZING CLERK TO MAKE The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Mack Sabo Gallegly TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS AND PETRI). The question is on the passage Garrett (NJ) Maloney Salazar ´ Gerlach Manzullo Sanchez, Linda CONFORMING CHANGES IN EN- of the bill. Marchant T. The question was taken; and the Gibbons GROSSMENT OF H.R. 2475, INTEL- Gilchrest Markey Sanchez, Speaker pro tempore announced that Marshall Loretta LIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT Gillmor FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006 the ayes appeared to have it. Gingrey Matheson Sanders Matsui Saxton Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, on Gohmert Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I ask Gonzalez McCarthy Schakowsky McCaul (TX) Schiff unanimous consent that in the engross- that I demand the yeas and nays. Goode McCollum (MN) Schwartz (PA) The yeas and nays were ordered. Goodlatte ment of the bill, H.R. 2475, the Clerk be McCotter Schwarz (MI) Gordon authorized to make such technical and The SPEAKER pro tempore. This McCrery Scott (GA) Granger will be a 5-minute vote. McGovern Scott (VA) confirming changes as necessary to re- Graves McHenry Sensenbrenner The vote was taken by electronic de- Green (WI) flect the actions of the House. McHugh Serrano vice, and there were—yeas 409, nays 16, Green, Al The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. McIntyre Shadegg Green, Gene not voting 8, as follows: McKeon Shaw PETRI). Is there objection to the re- Grijalva McMorris Shays quest of the gentleman from Michigan? [Roll No. 290] Gutierrez McNulty Sherman There was no objection. YEAS—409 Gutknecht Meehan Sherwood Abercrombie Blunt Capuano Hall Meek (FL) Shimkus f Ackerman Boehlert Cardin Harman Meeks (NY) Shuster Aderholt Boehner Cardoza Harris Melancon Simmons ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Akin Bonilla Carnahan Hart Menendez Simpson PRO TEMPORE Alexander Bonner Carson Hastings (FL) Mica Skelton Allen Bono Case Hastings (WA) Michaud Slaughter The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Andrews Boozman Castle Hayes Millender- Smith (NJ) objection, the remaining votes will be Baca Boren Chabot Hayworth McDonald Smith (TX) 5-minute votes. Hefley Bachus Boswell Chandler Miller (FL) Smith (WA) There was no objection. Baird Boucher Chocola Hensarling Miller (MI) Snyder Baker Boustany Clay Herger Miller (NC) Sodrel f Baldwin Boyd Cleaver Higgins Miller, Gary Solis Barrett (SC) Bradley (NH) Clyburn Hinchey Miller, George Souder APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF IM- Barrow Brady (PA) Coble Hinojosa Mollohan Spratt PORT RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED Bartlett (MD) Brady (TX) Cole (OK) Hobson Moore (KS) Stearns IN THE BURMESE FREEDOM AND Barton (TX) Brown (OH) Cooper Hoekstra Moore (WI) Strickland Bass Brown (SC) Costa Holden Moran (KS) Stupak DEMOCRACY ACT OF 2003 Bean Brown, Corrine Costello Holt Moran (VA) Sullivan The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Beauprez Brown-Waite, Cox Honda Murtha Sweeney Becerra Ginny Cramer Hooley Musgrave Tancredo pending business is the question of sus- Berkley Burgess Crenshaw Hostettler Myrick Tanner pending the rules and passing the joint Berman Burton (IN) Crowley Hoyer Nadler Tauscher resolution, H.J. Res. 52. Berry Butterfield Cubin Hulshof Napolitano Taylor (MS) Biggert Buyer Cuellar Hunter Neal (MA) Taylor (NC) The Clerk read the title of the joint Bilirakis Calvert Culberson Hyde Neugebauer Terry resolution. Bishop (GA) Camp Cummings Inglis (SC) Ney Thomas The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Bishop (NY) Cannon Cunningham Inslee Northup Thompson (CA) question is on the motion offered by Bishop (UT) Cantor Davis (AL) Israel Norwood Thompson (MS) Blackburn Capito Davis (CA) Issa Nunes Thornberry the gentleman from Florida (Mr. SHAW) Blumenauer Capps Davis (FL) Istook Nussle Tiahrt that the House suspend the rules and

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00054 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.046 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4859 pass the joint resolution, H.J. Res. 52, Meehan Price (NC) Snyder This will be a 5-minute vote. on which the yeas and nays are or- Meek (FL) Pryce (OH) Sodrel Meeks (NY) Putnam Solis The vote was taken by electronic de- dered. Melancon Radanovich Souder vice, and there were—yeas 425, nays 0, This will be a 5-minute vote. Menendez Rahall Spratt not voting 8, as follows: The vote was taken by electronic de- Mica Ramstad Stark Michaud Rangel Stearns [Roll No. 292] vice, and there were—yeas 423, nays 2, Millender- Regula Strickland YEAS—425 not voting 8, as follows: McDonald Rehberg Stupak Abercrombie Davis (IL) Hunter Miller (FL) Reichert Sullivan [Roll No. 291] Ackerman Davis (KY) Hyde Miller (MI) Renzi Sweeney Miller (NC) Reyes Aderholt Davis (TN) Inglis (SC) YEAS—423 Tancredo Akin Davis, Jo Ann Inslee Miller, Gary Reynolds Tanner Abercrombie Cunningham Holden Miller, George Rogers (AL) Alexander Davis, Tom Israel Ackerman Davis (AL) Holt Tauscher Allen DeFazio Issa Mollohan Rogers (KY) Taylor (MS) Aderholt Davis (CA) Honda Moore (KS) Rogers (MI) Andrews DeGette Istook Taylor (NC) Akin Davis (FL) Hooley Moore (WI) Rohrabacher Baca Delahunt Jackson (IL) Terry Alexander Davis (IL) Hostettler Moran (KS) Ros-Lehtinen Bachus DeLauro Jackson-Lee Thomas Allen Davis (KY) Hoyer Moran (VA) Ross Baird DeLay (TX) Thompson (CA) Andrews Davis (TN) Hulshof Murtha Rothman Baker Dent Jefferson Thompson (MS) Baca Davis, Jo Ann Hunter Musgrave Roybal-Allard Baldwin Diaz-Balart, L. Jenkins Thornberry Bachus Davis, Tom Hyde Myrick Royce Barrett (SC) Diaz-Balart, M. Jindal Tiahrt Baird DeFazio Inglis (SC) Nadler Ruppersberger Barrow Dicks Johnson (CT) Tiberi Baker DeGette Inslee Napolitano Rush Bartlett (MD) Dingell Johnson (IL) Tierney Baldwin Delahunt Israel Neal (MA) Ryan (OH) Barton (TX) Doggett Johnson, E. B. Barrett (SC) DeLauro Issa Neugebauer Ryan (WI) Towns Bass Doolittle Johnson, Sam Barrow DeLay Istook Ney Ryun (KS) Turner Bean Doyle Jones (NC) Bartlett (MD) Dent Jackson (IL) Northup Sabo Udall (CO) Beauprez Drake Jones (OH) Barton (TX) Diaz-Balart, L. Jackson-Lee Norwood Salazar Udall (NM) Becerra Dreier Kanjorski Bass Diaz-Balart, M. (TX) Nunes Sa´ nchez, Linda Upton Berkley Duncan Kaptur Bean Dicks Jefferson Nussle T. Van Hollen Berman Edwards Keller ´ Beauprez Dingell Jenkins Oberstar Sanchez, Velazquez Berry Ehlers Kelly Becerra Doggett Jindal Obey Loretta Visclosky Biggert Emanuel Kennedy (MN) Berkley Doolittle Johnson (CT) Olver Sanders Walden (OR) Bilirakis Emerson Kennedy (RI) Berman Doyle Johnson (IL) Ortiz Saxton Walsh Bishop (GA) Engel Kildee Berry Drake Johnson, E. B. Osborne Schakowsky Wamp Bishop (NY) English (PA) Kilpatrick (MI) Biggert Dreier Johnson, Sam Otter Schiff Wasserman Bishop (UT) Eshoo Kind Bilirakis Duncan Jones (NC) Owens Schwartz (PA) Schultz Blackburn Etheridge King (IA) Bishop (GA) Edwards Jones (OH) Oxley Schwarz (MI) Waters Blumenauer Evans King (NY) Bishop (NY) Ehlers Kanjorski Pallone Scott (GA) Watson Blunt Everett Kingston Bishop (UT) Emanuel Kaptur Pascrell Scott (VA) Watt Boehlert Farr Kirk Blackburn Emerson Keller Pastor Sensenbrenner Waxman Boehner Fattah Kline Blumenauer Engel Kelly Payne Serrano Weiner Bonilla Feeney Knollenberg Blunt English (PA) Kennedy (MN) Pearce Shadegg Weldon (FL) Bonner Ferguson Kolbe Boehlert Eshoo Kennedy (RI) Pelosi Shaw Weldon (PA) Bono Filner Kucinich Boehner Etheridge Kildee Pence Shays Weller Boozman Fitzpatrick Kuhl (NY) Bonilla Evans Kilpatrick (MI) Peterson (MN) Sherman Westmoreland Boren (PA) LaHood Bonner Everett Kind Peterson (PA) Sherwood Wexler Boswell Flake Langevin Bono Farr King (IA) Petri Shimkus Whitfield Boucher Foley Lantos Boozman Fattah King (NY) Pickering Shuster Wicker Boustany Forbes Larsen (WA) Boren Feeney Kingston Pitts Simmons Wilson (NM) Boyd Ford Larson (CT) Boswell Ferguson Kirk Platts Simpson Wilson (SC) Bradley (NH) Fortenberry Latham Boucher Filner Kline Poe Skelton Wolf Brady (PA) Fossella LaTourette Boustany Fitzpatrick Knollenberg Pombo Slaughter Woolsey Brady (TX) Foxx Leach Boyd (PA) Kolbe Pomeroy Smith (NJ) Wu Brown (OH) Frank (MA) Lee Bradley (NH) Foley Kucinich Porter Smith (TX) Wynn Brown (SC) Franks (AZ) Levin Brady (PA) Forbes Kuhl (NY) Price (GA) Smith (WA) Young (AK) Brown, Corrine Frelinghuysen Lewis (CA) Brady (TX) Ford LaHood Brown-Waite, Gallegly Lewis (KY) Brown (OH) Fortenberry Langevin NAYS—2 Ginny Garrett (NJ) Linder Brown (SC) Fossella Lantos Flake Paul Burgess Gerlach Lipinski Brown, Corrine Foxx Larsen (WA) Burton (IN) Gibbons LoBiondo Brown-Waite, Frank (MA) Larson (CT) NOT VOTING—8 Butterfield Gilchrest Lofgren, Zoe Ginny Franks (AZ) Latham Buyer Gillmor Lowey Carter Herseth Sessions Burgess Frelinghuysen LaTourette Calvert Gingrey Lucas Conaway Lewis (GA) Burton (IN) Gallegly Leach Young (FL) Camp Gohmert Lungren, Daniel Deal (GA) Murphy Butterfield Garrett (NJ) Lee Cannon Gonzalez E. Buyer Gerlach Levin b 1655 Cantor Goode Lynch Calvert Gibbons Lewis (CA) Capito Goodlatte Mack Camp Gilchrest Lewis (KY) So (two thirds having voted in favor Capps Gordon Maloney Cannon Gillmor Linder thereof) the rules were suspended and Capuano Granger Manzullo Cantor Gingrey Lipinski Cardin Graves Marchant Capito Gohmert LoBiondo the joint resolution was passed. Cardoza Green (WI) Markey Capps Gonzalez Lofgren, Zoe The result of the vote was announced Carnahan Green, Al Marshall Capuano Goode Lowey as above recorded. Carson Green, Gene Matheson Cardin Goodlatte Lucas Case Grijalva Matsui Cardoza Gordon Lungren, Daniel A motion to reconsider was laid on Castle Gutierrez McCarthy Carnahan Granger E. the table. Chabot Gutknecht McCaul (TX) Carson Graves Lynch f Chandler Hall McCollum (MN) Case Green (WI) Mack Chocola Harman McCotter Castle Green, Al Maloney RECOGNIZING THE HISTORICAL Clay Harris McCrery Chabot Green, Gene Manzullo Cleaver Hart McDermott Chandler Grijalva Marchant SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH Clyburn Hastings (FL) McGovern Chocola Gutierrez Markey INDEPENDENCE DAY Coble Hastings (WA) McHenry Clay Gutknecht Marshall Cole (OK) Hayes McHugh Cleaver Hall Matheson The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Conyers Hayworth McIntyre Clyburn Harman Matsui pending business is the question of sus- Cooper Hefley McKeon Coble Harris McCarthy pending the rules and agreeing to the Costa Hensarling McKinney Cole (OK) Hart McCaul (TX) concurrent resolution, H. Con. Res. 160. Costello Herger McMorris Conyers Hastings (FL) McCollum (MN) Cox Higgins McNulty Cooper Hastings (WA) McCotter The Clerk read the title of the con- Cramer Hinchey Meehan Costa Hayes McCrery current resolution. Crenshaw Hinojosa Meek (FL) Costello Hayworth McDermott The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Crowley Hobson Meeks (NY) Cox Hefley McGovern Cubin Hoekstra Melancon Cramer Hensarling McHenry question is on the motion offered by Cuellar Holden Menendez Crenshaw Herger McHugh the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Culberson Holt Mica Crowley Higgins McIntyre GINNY BROWN-WAITE) that the House Cummings Honda Michaud Cubin Hinchey McKeon suspend the rules and agree to the con- Cunningham Hooley Millender- Cuellar Hinojosa McKinney Davis (AL) Hostettler McDonald Culberson Hobson McMorris current resolution, H. Con. Res. 160, on Davis (CA) Hoyer Miller (FL) Cummings Hoekstra McNulty which the yeas and nays are ordered. Davis (FL) Hulshof Miller (MI)

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00055 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.110 H21PT1 H4860 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Miller (NC) Regula Spratt Airlift Wing, Air Force Reserve in my Congres- check, and once he or she is cleared, Miller, Gary Rehberg Stark the records of that transaction are de- Miller, George Reichert Stearns sional District, I was not present in the Cham- Mollohan Renzi Strickland ber on Tuesday, June 21, 2005, and was re- stroyed after 24 hours. But 24 hours is Moore (KS) Reyes Stupak grettably unable to cast my vote on rollcall No. simply not enough time to ensure a Moore (WI) Reynolds Sullivan 288, rollcall No. 289, rollcall No. 290, rollcall gun is not sold to someone who should Moran (KS) Rogers (AL) Sweeney No. 291, and rollcall No. 292. not be buying guns. Why? Because the Moran (VA) Rogers (KY) Tancredo Murtha Rogers (MI) Tanner Had I been present, I would have voted National Instant Background Check Musgrave Rohrabacher Tauscher ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall No. 288; ‘‘no’’ on rollcall No. System, or NICS, is not effective Myrick Ros-Lehtinen Taylor (MS) Nadler Ross 289; ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall No. 290; ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall enough to warrant such a quick turn- Taylor (NC) Napolitano Rothman No. 291; and ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall No. 292. around time on gun purchase records. Terry Neal (MA) Roybal-Allard Thomas f NICS is a database to check potential Neugebauer Royce Thompson (CA) firearm buyers for any criminal record Ney Ruppersberger SUPPORTING FIREFIGHTER LIFE Northup Rush Thompson (MS) or history of mental illness. Thornberry SAFETY SUMMIT INITIATIVES Norwood Ryan (OH) b 1715 Nunes Ryan (WI) Tiahrt AND MISSION OF NATIONAL Nussle Ryun (KS) Tiberi FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS FOUNDA- Mr. Speaker, however, the NICS sys- Oberstar Sabo Tierney tem is only as good as the information Obey Salazar Towns TION AND UNITED STATES FIRE Olver Sa´ nchez, Linda Turner ADMINISTRATION States provide. Twenty-five States Ortiz T. Udall (CO) have automated less than 60 percent of The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Osborne Sanchez, Udall (NM) their felony convictions into the NICS PETRI). The pending business is the Otter Loretta Upton system. Owens Sanders Van Hollen question of suspending the rules and In these States, many felons will not Oxley Saxton Vela´ zquez agreeing to the concurrent resolution, Pallone Schakowsky be listed on the NICS system and would Visclosky H. Con. Res. 180. Pascrell Schiff Walden (OR) be able to purchase guns with no ques- Pastor Schwartz (PA) The Clerk read the title of the con- Walsh tions asked. In 13 States, domestic vio- Paul Schwarz (MI) Wamp current resolution. Payne Scott (GA) lence restraining orders are not acces- Wasserman The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Pearce Scott (VA) sible through the NICS system. Com- Schultz question is on the motion offered by Pelosi Sensenbrenner Waters mon sense would dictate that you do Pence Serrano Watson the gentleman from New York (Mr. Peterson (MN) Shadegg not sell a gun to someone who has been Watt BOEHLERT) that the House suspend the Peterson (PA) Shaw Waxman recently served with a restraining Petri Shays rules and agree to the concurrent reso- Weiner order. Pickering Sherman lution, H. Con. Res. 180. Weldon (FL) Thirty-three States have not auto- Pitts Sherwood The question was taken; and (two- Weldon (PA) mated or do not share mental health Platts Shimkus thirds having voted in favor thereof) Poe Shuster Weller records that would disqualify certain Westmoreland the rules were suspended and the con- Pombo Simmons individuals from purchasing a gun Pomeroy Simpson Wexler current resolution was agreed to. Whitfield under existing law. Also felony convic- Porter Skelton A motion to reconsider was laid on Price (GA) Slaughter Wicker tions in some States will not show up the table. Price (NC) Smith (NJ) Wilson (NM) on another State’s background check. Wilson (SC) Pryce (OH) Smith (TX) f Putnam Smith (WA) Wolf I understand the political realities of Radanovich Snyder Woolsey REPORT ON H.R. 3010, DEPART- this Congress when it comes to new Wu Rahall Sodrel MENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND gun laws. Many on both sides of the Ramstad Solis Wynn aisle see anything longer than a 24- Rangel Souder Young (AK) HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDU- hour period to hold records as a de NOT VOTING—8 CATION, AND RELATED AGEN- CIES APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2006 facto gun registry. Carter Herseth Sessions So we must take measures to fix the Conaway Lewis (GA) Young (FL) Mr. REGULA, from the Committee NICS system to make sure that our ex- Deal (GA) Murphy on Appropriations, submitted a privi- isting laws are enforced. I have intro- b 1705 leged report (Rept. No. 109–143) on the duced legislation with the gentleman bill (H.R. 3010) making appropriations So (two-thirds having voted in favor from Michigan (Mr. DINGELL), the NICS for the Departments of Labor, Health thereof) the rules were suspended and Improvement Act of 2005, that will give and Human Services, and Education, the concurrent resolution was agreed States grants to update their NICS and Related Agencies for the fiscal to. database. year ending September 30, 2006, and for The result of the vote was announced This is the same bill that passed the other purposes, which was referred to as above recorded. House by a voice vote in the 107th Con- the Union Calendar and ordered to be A motion to reconsider was laid on gress. No one person was denied his or printed. the table. her second amendment rights because The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- f of this bill. Even the National Rifle As- ant to clause 1, rule XXI, all points of sociation approved the bill in 2002. PERSONAL EXPLANATION order are reserved on the bill. It is the States’ responsibility to Mr. CARTER. Mr. Speaker, on June 21, f make sure that NICS databases are in order. But if so many States are facing 2005, I was unavoidably detained on official SPECIAL ORDERS business in my Congressional District. During budget problems, many simply cannot rollcall vote No. 288, if present, I would have The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. afford to dedicate resources to updat- voted ‘‘yea.’’ On rollcall vote No. 289, I would MCCAUL of Texas). Under the Speaker’s ing their NICS system. have voted ‘‘no.’’ On final passage of H.R. announced policy of January 4, 2005, Meanwhile, too many criminals are 2475, authorize appropriations for fiscal year and under a previous order of the slipping through the cracks of our 2006 for intelligence and intelligence-related House, the following Members will be background check system. This is un- activities, rollcall vote 290, I would have voted recognized for 5 minutes each. acceptable, especially in the post-9/11 ‘‘yea.’’ On passage of H.J. Res. 52, rollcall f era. Until we fix the NICS system, our vote 291, I would have voted ‘‘yea.’’ On pas- law enforcement officers will continue TAKING STEPS TO FIX NICS sage of H. Con. Res. 160, rollcall vote 292, I to be within a tight deadline to deter- would have voted ‘‘yea.’’ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a mine whether or not background f previous order of the House, the gentle- checks cover all of the bases. woman from New York (Mrs. MCCAR- With my bill, we can ensure that the PERSONAL EXPLANATION THY) is recognized for 5 minutes. NICS system does its job at the point Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, due to official Mrs. MCCARTHY. Mr. Speaker, cur- of purchase. Mr. Speaker, please bring business relating to the visit of BRAC Com- rently, when someone wants to buy a the NICS Improvement Act up for a missioner General Lloyd Newton to the 911th gun, they are subject to a background vote this summer. It is time that we

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00056 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.052 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4861 close the legal loopholes that make it courage with the Pharmaceutical Mar- when your gavel comes down, it is to so easy for criminals to buy guns and ket Access Act. Now, our Founders un- open the people’s House, not the auc- so difficult for law enforcement agen- derstood that the Federal Government tion house. What have the American cies to keep us safe. is created by the States and not the people seen of late? Mr. Speaker, this is a bill that can other way around. They have seen that when we had a work. This is a bill that has bipartisan But the States in many cases have tax bill problem of $4 billion on the support. This is a bill that can save been referred to as the laboratory of corporate side, we were trying to fix a lives, especially those of our police of- democracy. And the interesting thing $4 billion problem, it ended up costing ficers. is State governments, and more impor- the taxpayers $150 billion in special in- f tantly the Governors of those States, terest favors. Only in this Congress, are not standing by idly. only in this country could you stick BRING DOWN AMERICA’S DRUG What they are doing is they are cre- the taxpayers with a $150 billion bill to PRICES ating their own programs. In Illinois, bail out corporate interests, when you The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. in Kansas, in my own State of Min- were trying to fix only a $4 billion MCCAUL of Texas). Under a previous nesota, Minnesotans now have access problem. order of the House, the gentleman from to buying drugs from Canada, and they And rather than creating jobs as the Minnesota (Mr. GUTKNECHT) is recog- recently added Great Britain. bill was intended, it is creatively nized for 5 minutes. The I-SaveRx program, now in Illi- named the Jobs Creation Bill, it was Mr. GUTKNECHT. Mr. Speaker, I rise nois, includes Canada, the United King- nothing more than a multi-billion dol- again tonight to talk about prescrip- dom, and Ireland. Now, many of the lar giveaway to special interests. Or tion drugs, and more importantly people here in Washington, our own consider last year’s prescription drug about what Americans pay for prescrip- FDA says that is not safe. Well, some bill for Medicare. tion drugs compared to consumers in of these States have now over a year of It is about an $800 billion handout to other industrialized countries. experience and they have demonstrated the prescription drug industry after I have this chart, and I know that on that this can be done safely. having been one of the largest contrib- television it is a little hard for the The list goes on. Missouri, Nevada, I utors to the campaign committee, both Members who are watching their of- think was just signed into law either for Democrats and Republicans; and it fices to see these numbers, but if you yesterday or today, the law takes ef- actually ended up with producing an go to my Web site at gil.house.gov, you fect July 1st, so that people in Nevada additional $153 billion in profits for the can see this chart and other compari- will have access to drugs from foreign pharmaceutical industry. sons that we have, not only with the countries at much more competitive While we were working on that legis- United States and Germany, as this prices. New Hampshire, North Dakota lation, a Member of this body was actu- chart is, but with other countries, be- has joined the list. We now have 11 ally negotiating a job to go to work for cause we now have pharmacists lit- States, and we do not know how many that industry and represent it. Or now erally around the world who regularly cities have joined this list. that we are talking about the energy share with us what their prices are for But it really is time for us at the bill, we are talking about a $14 billion prescription drugs. Federal level to do our job to make taxpayer giveaway to the energy indus- What you see here are 10 of the most sure that Americans have access to try, and oil is now being charged at $59 commonly prescribed drugs in the world-class drugs at world-market a barrel. United States. You can buy those drugs prices. Mr. Speaker, this is not a mys- If it is not profitable at $59 a barrel, in Frankfurt, Germany for $455.57. tery. It can be done. What we know is what more do we have to give them? Those same 10 drugs here in the United that the Europeans are not intrinsi- Neither does it ever reduce our depend- States are $1,040.04. Americans pay 128 cally smarter than we are. ence on foreign oil. And the pundits percent more for the same drugs made If they figured out how to do this here in Washington wonder why the in the same plants under the same FDA parallel trade, we can do it as well. Mr. American people out in the country do approval. Speaker, it is time for Americans to not like their Congress? Let me give you one example we have have access to these drugs at 128 per- But it is not just the administration talked about before: Zocor, an excel- cent cheaper than they can buy them and their congressional allies that have lent drug. Many heart patients take in the United States. worked to craft legislation benefiting a Zocor. As a matter of fact, some of our f single industry. In some cases the spe- colleagues here in Congress take Zocor. cial interests actually sit at the table And depending on what Federal pro- BEST GOVERNMENT MONEY CAN drafting the legislation that impacts gram you are under, you can be paying BUY them. a copay of $30 for that drug. Federal The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a For instance, recently we were all Members of Congress may be paying $30 previous order of the House, the gen- shocked to learn that Philip Cooney, when consumers in Germany can walk tleman from Illinois (Mr. EMANUEL) is the former chief of staff for the White into the Metropolitan Pharmacy in recognized for 5 minutes. House counsel on environmental qual- Frankfurt, Germany, and they can buy Mr. EMANUEL. Mr. Speaker, we ity and a former lobbyist at the Amer- that drug for $23.80. often hear that the American people ican Petroleum Institute, consistently The copay here in the United States, have a negative opinion of the job we changed government reports on global in many cases, is $30. The regular price do here in Congress. In fact, recent warming. in Rochester, Minnesota, for that drug, polling indicates that 53 percent of the After leaving the White House, and $85.39. And again, these are the same country disapproves of the way Con- having been discovered having literally drugs, made in the same plants with gress handles its job. changed government reports on the im- the same FDA approval. What is wrong In a recent CNN poll, 71 percent of pacts of global warming, where does he with this picture? the American people said Congress end up with a job? Exxon, a company Well, what is wrong with this picture fails to share their priorities and val- opposed to any legislation on global is that American consumers are held ues. Some around here may wonder warming. Then there is the tobacco hostage. In countries like Germany, why that is. Could it be because while lawsuit. The U.S. Government won its they have what is called parallel trade. American families struggle to pay case handily against Big Tobacco; but So a pharmacist in Frankfurt, for ex- their education bills, their medical rather then seeking the maximum pen- ample, if they want to buy that Zocor, bills, save for their retirement, this alty of $130 billion, the government if they can buy that Zocor in Sweden Congress has come to be handing out suddenly decided to only ask for $10 cheaper than they can buy it from the special favors, and that is all they see billion where Philip Morris’ attorney distributors in Germany, they are al- of this Congress? said they were very surprised at this lowed to do that. Could it be because ours has become decision. That creates a competitive market- a government of the special interests, Nobody seems to know how the deci- place. That is what we are trying to en- for the special interests? Mr. Speaker, sion was made, but in the past weeks it

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00057 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.115 H21PT1 H4862 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 has become clear that the associate at- Our men and women down there are found the detainees themselves regu- torney general, Robert McCalum, a serving with honor and dignity. larly displayed less regard for the former employee at a firm representing Since September 11, 2001, more than Koran. For instance, on May 14, 2003, a tobacco executives and industry, forced 70,000 detainees have been captured in guard observed a detainee ripping up the government to reduce its own pen- the global war on terror in Afghanistan his Koran in small pieces. July 5, 2003, alties to pennies on the dollar. and in Iraq. Some 800 suspected mem- a guard observed two detainees accuse But if Americans are not turned off bers of al Qaeda or the Taliban have a third of not being a man. In response, by the corporate goodies dished out by been sent to GITMO, no one under 18 the detainee urinated on one of their Congress, and if industry execs crafting years of age. Approximately 520 re- Korans. January 19, 2005, four guards the policies that benefit their own main. witnessed a detainee tear up his Koran companies do not get them worked up, Approximately 235 have been re- and flush it down the toilet. January maybe it is the revolving door between leased, transferred to other countries, 23, 2005, four guards witnessed a de- the public and private sector. and 61 are awaiting release or transfer tainee rip pages out of his Koran and As I mentioned, a colleague of ours right now. GITMO houses some of the throw them down the toilet. The de- went off to represent the prescription most dangerous individuals linked to tainee stated he did so because he drug industry known as Big Pharma, the most dangerous organizations in wanted to be moved to another camp. after having passed an $800 billion pre- the world, all wishing harm to the These detainees are trained to resist scription drug bill. United States of America and our citi- interrogation. The U.S. discovered a And, by the way, the chairman of the zens: terrorist trainers and financiers, captured al Qaeda training manual, the health subcommittee dealing with the would-be suicide bombers, bomb mak- terrorist training manual, the Man- very same bill is now employed by ers and Osama bin Laden’s own per- chester document, that instructs mem- other drug companies. Mr. Speaker, the sonal body guard. One such terrorist bers to allege abuse and mistreatment American people are concerned that currently being detained at GITMO is and torture if they are captured. Congress does not reflect their prior- Mohammed Al-Khatani, believed to be Mr. Speaker, it is also important to ities or their values. Sadly, they are the intended 20th hijacker that at- note that detainees are only sent to right. tacked the World Trade Center, the GITMO after a thorough screening We have a government that has be- Pentagon, and other areas back on 9/11. process that identifies individuals who Al-Khatani and his fellow murderers come beholden to the special interests; pose a threat to the United States of and criminals have provided valuable and their voices, the voices of the America or who have valuable intel- information at GITMO, including orga- American people have been quieted by ligence information. the voices of the special interests. nizational structure of al Qaeda and Combatant status review tribunals. other terrorist groups; the extent of And as far as the government special All detainees have been reviewed by a terrorist presence in Europe, the U.S. interests are concerned, this is the best tribunal. There is an administrative re- and the Middle East; al Qaeda’s pursuit government money can buy. Mr. view board which reviews each case at of weapons of mass destruction; ter- Speaker, the gavel marks the opening least once annually for possible release rorist skill sets; general and special- of the people’s HOUSE, not the auction based on the threat. More than 130 ized operative training; and how to le- house. This election is about returning boards have been completed to date. gitimize financial activities that are that gavel to its rightful owners, the Military commissions, trials with full used to hide terrorist operations. American people. Mr. Speaker, intelligence gained at and vigorous representation for those The President and his advisors tout Guantanamo has literally prevented suspected of committing war crimes, the fact that they do not pay attention terrorist attacks and saved possibly awaiting resolution of various U.S. to polling data. Well, maybe, it is time thousands, maybe hundreds of thou- Federal court rulings and reviews. they did, because the message is loud sands, of American lives. U.S. mis- Mr. Speaker, I am sorry I am out of and clear, the American people want conduct versus detainee misconduct: time. There is more information that their House back. there has been a lot of misinformation needs to be given to my colleagues and f about that. After the much publicized the American people. But we have treated those terrorists down there so GUANTANAMO BAY AND THE and now retracted May 2005 Newsweek well compared to the way they treat KORAN article alleging Koran abuse by the U.S. military officials, Brigadier Gen- our people, beheading and everything The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a eral Jay Hood conducted an exhaustive that has gone on in Iraq and elsewhere previous order of the House, the gen- investigation. in the world. Our troops are doing the tleman from Indiana (Mr. BURTON) is humane main thing in accordance with recognized for 5 minutes. b 1730 the humanity of their fellow man, and Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speak- Brigadier General Hood’s investiga- they are treating those terrorists so er, over the past week or 10 days, we tion determined some interesting find- much better than is being publicized in have heard a lot of haranguing about ings which run contrary to the claims the press, and the American people what is going on down at the Guanta- we are hearing about today. For in- have a right to know about it. namo detention facility regarding the stance, U.S. soldiers used latex gloves So let’s talk about what is really going on at prisoners who were involved in ter- and clean towels while even handling GTMO, where I want to stress, that the vast rorist activities and opposed our troops the Koran. U.S. soldiers routinely must majority of our brave service men and women over in Iraq and elsewhere in the world. search detainees Korans when they are serving with honor and dignity. And some people in the Congress refuse to show them for security Since September 11, 2001, more than have even equated what is going on searches. U.S. soldiers inspect for 70,000 detainees have been captured in the down there with Hitler, Stalin, Pol weapons by touching the Koran global war on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq. Pot, and what happened in World War through surgical masks. Surgical Some 800 suspected members of Al Qaeda II and the concentration camps. And it masks are used to hang detainees’ Ko- or the Taliban have been sent to GTMO (no is reprehensible that that comparison rans during security searches. And one under 18 years old). is even being thought about, let alone when a guard accidentally knocked one Approximately 520 remain; approximately being expressed by one of my col- of them off, it was fully investigated 235 have been released/transferred to other leagues. and deemed an accident. countries; and, 61 are awaiting release or So I wanted to come tonight and give An outside contractor stepped on a transfer. to the American people who may be Koran during an interrogation. After GTMO houses some of the most dangerous paying attention back in their offices an investigation was completed, the individuals, linked to the most dangerous orga- some facts about Guantanamo and contractor apologized and was termi- nizations in the world, all wishing to harm the what is going on down there. nated because he accidentally stepped U.S., including: Forgive me for reading this to you, on the Koran. Terrorist trainers and financiers; would-be but I think it is extremely important. On the contrary, Mr. Speaker, Briga- suicide bombers; bomb makers; and, Osama I want to put everything in context. dier General Hood’s investigation bin Laden’s own bodyguards.

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From $38 criminals have provided valuable information, To set the record straight Mr. Speaker, the billion to $618 billion. including: U.S. Government has released more than Now, maybe those are just numbers, Organization structure of Al-Qaeda and 16,000 pages of documents regarding de- but those numbers translate into some- other terrorist groups; extent of terrorist pres- tainee operation, including classified interroga- thing much more important than econ- ence in Europe, the U.S., and the middle east; tion techniques. omist data. These numbers translate Al-Qaeda’s pursuit of WMD; terrorist skill sets: Since 2002, GTMO has provided granted into manufacturing job losses. The general and specialized operative training; access to the following: States in red have lost 20 percent of and, how legitimate financial activities are International Red Cross—Had 24/7 access their manufacturing in the last 5 years. used to hide terrorist operations. to the facility at it’s discretion and a permanent The States in blue have lost 15 to 20 Mr. Speaker, intelligence gained at Guanta- presence; Media—400 visits by 1,000 national percent. Ohio, my State, 217,000 jobs namo has literally prevented terrorist attacks and international journalists; 11 Senators, 77 lost; Michigan 210,000; Illinois 224,000. and saved American lives. Represenatives, and 99 Congressional staff These are just manufacturing job After the much publicized—and now re- members; and, lawyers for detainees. losses. People who make a decent wage, tracted—May 2005 Newsweek article alleging f a middle-class wage, who have health Koran abuse by U.S. military officials, Briga- RENEGOTIATE CAFTA benefits, who have earned pensions, dier General Jay Hood conducted an exhaus- thousands, hundreds of thousands of tive investigation. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. them, have lost their jobs; 228,000 in Brig. Gen. Hood’s investigation determined MCCAUL of Texas). Under a previous North Carolina; 130,000 in Mississippi some interesting findings, which run contrary order of the House, the gentleman from and Alabama; 353,000 in California; to the claims we are hearing today. For in- Ohio (Mr. BROWN) is recognized for 5 201,000 in the State of Texas; 200,000 in stance: minutes. the State of Pennsylvania; 72,000 in the U.S. soldiers used latex gloves and clean Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, 13 State of Florida. In State after State towels while handling the Koran—U.S. soldiers months ago the President of the United after State, we are losing hundreds of routinely must search detainee’s Korans when States signed the Central American thousands of manufacturing jobs. Free Trade Agreement. The trade they refuse to show them for security Our the trade policy is not working. agreement is an agreement between searches; CAFTA is more of the same. CAFTA is the United States and six Latin Amer- U.S. soldiers inspected for weapons by a dysfunctional cousin of the North ican countries, five in Central America touching Koran through surgical mask—sur- American Free Trade Agreement. It and the Dominican Republic. It has gical masks are used to hang detainee’s Ko- was an agreement that was negotiated been 13 months, as I said, since the rans during security searches. When a guard by the select few, benefiting the select President signed this agreement. accidentally knocked one off it was fully inves- few. The majority leader, the gentleman tigated and deemed an accident. Now, supporters of CAFTA tell us, as An outside contractor stepped on a Koran from Texas (Mr. DELAY), the most pow- erful Republican in the House, prom- they always do in trade agreements, during a interrogation—after an investigation that as a result of this agreement U.S. was completed, the contractor apologized and ised a vote in 2004. He promised a vote by Memorial Day. Now he promised a companies will export more products to was terminated. the developing world. Unfortunately, On the contrary Mr. Speaker, Brig. Gen. vote, I think he means it this time, by July 4. Mr. Speaker, if you look at this chart, Hood’s investigation found that detainees that is simply not the case. themselves regularly displayed far less regard It is simple, the reason we have not The U.S. typical average wage is for the Koran, for instance: voted on the Central American Free $38,000. The average wage in El Sal- May 14, 2003—A guard observed a de- Trade Agreement, and that is because vador is 4,800; Honduras 2,600; Nica- tainee rip his Koran into small pieces. of the broad opposition in this House ragua 2,300. To say that people in those June 5, 2003—A guard observed two de- and among the American people. Re- countries are going to buy products tainees accuse a third of not being a man. In publicans and Democrats by the dozens made in this country simply does not response, the detainee urinated on one of in this House oppose the Central Amer- pass the credibility test. Hondurans are their Korans. ican Free Trade Agreement. Business January 19, 2005—Four guards witnessed a organizations, labor unions, both in the not going to be able to buy cars made detainee tear up his Koran and try to flush it United States and in the six Latin in Ohio. Nicaraguans making $2,300 a down the toilet. American countries, oppose the Central year are not going to be able to buy January 23, 2005—Four guards witnessed a American Free Trade Agreement. The prime beef raised in Nebraska. Guate- detainee rip pages out of his Koran and throw Latin American Council of Churches, malans making $4,100 a year are not them down the toilet. The detainee stated he as do many religious leaders and going to be able to buy steel from did so because he wanted to be moved to an- churches and organizations in the Pennsylvania or apparel from North other camp. United States, oppose the Central and South Carolina, or be able to buy These detainees are trained to resist interro- American Free Trade Agreement. Envi- software from Seattle. gation. ronmentalists, active environmental- Mr. Speaker, those 23 business orga- The U.S. discovered a ‘‘captured al Qaeda ists, food safety advocates, all kinds of nizations that spoke out against training manual’’—the Manchester Docu- very broad-based organizations oppose CAFTA today, labor unions in all seven ment—that instructs members to allege abuse the Central American Free Trade countries, environmentalists, food & torture if captured. Agreement. safety advocates, small businesses, Mr. Speaker, it is also important to note that Today, Mr. Speaker, the gentleman farmers and ranchers in all seven coun- detainees are only sent to GTMO after a thor- from North Carolina (Mr. JONES) and I tries, in Latin America and in this ough screening process that identifies individ- did a news conference at the Capitol country, are simply saying renegotiate uals who pose a threat to the U.S. or have with 23 business leaders speaking out, CAFTA; come up with a different Cen- valuable intelligence info. business leaders representing 23 busi- tral American Free Trade Agreement Combatant status review tribunals—All de- nesses speaking out against the Cen- that will help all of us. tainees have been reviewed by a tribunal. tral American Free Trade Agreement. If we are going to protect prescrip- Administrative review boards—Review each The reason is simply that our policy is tion drugs, we should protect workers. case at least once annually for possible re- not working. Our trade policy in this If we are going to protect Hollywood lease based on threat. More than 130 boards country has failed us for 12 years. films, as CAFTA does, we should pro- completed to date. Just look at this chart. Since 1992, tect the environment and food safety. Military Commissions—Trials with full and the year I was elected to Congress, the Mr. Speaker, we should pass a trade vigorous representation for those suspected of trade deficit, number of dollars’ worth agreement that works for all of us in committing war crimes. *Awaiting resolution of of exports versus imports, our trade this country, not just a select few.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00059 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A21JN7.058 H21PT1 H4864 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 HUMANE TREATMENT FOR GITMO My dad served in World War II. He treated like an ugly stepchild of this PRISONERS helped liberate those concentration Nation’s transportation system. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a camps, and 50 years later I went to Da- If we are wondering why only 19 per- previous order of the House, the gen- chau and saw what it was like. And cent of the American people feel that tleman from Texas (Mr. POE) is recog- Guantanamo Bay, to be compared to a the Congress is in tune with their pri- nized for 5 minutes. Nazi concentration camp, it is a sham orities, the cuts in Amtrak is one bla- Mr. POE. Mr. Speaker, it is about and it is shameful conduct. tant reason why. supper time here in the United States. We even know that some of the pris- Yesterday we passed a $408 billion de- I wonder what is on the plates across oners at Guantanamo Bay have actu- fense appropriations bill, and it did not our dinner tables. Perhaps lemon baked ally gained weight while they have even include the costs of the war in fish, broccoli, steamed carrots, fresh been there. Mr. Speaker, before I be- Iraq. We are cutting Amtrak routes to fruit. Sounds healthy to me, maybe de- came a Member of Congress, I dealt local governments throughout the United States that have no other form licious to some. This menu could be on with criminals all my life. First, as a of public transportation. We are spend- any menu of any home or restaurant in prosecutor, as you did, and then as a ing $1 billion a week in Iraq, $4 billion the United States tonight. criminal court judge for 22 years. I saw But, Mr. Speaker, this menu is also murderers, thieves and street terror- a month, but this administration ze- what is being served in Guantanamo ists. And they came through my court. roes out funding for Amtrak, and the Bay prison on any given night. Mr. And we sent them to jail. We sent them Committee on Appropriations does not Speaker, we have a purpose in Guanta- to Texas jails and Texas prisons. And, even give them enough money to oper- namo Bay. It is to house outlaws, Mr. Speaker, those are jails, those are ate the Northeast corridor. Just one week’s investment in Iraq criminals, radical terrorists; they are prisons where no one wants to go. That would significantly improve passenger locked up there. is what prison and jail is about. rail for the entire country for an entire These detainees are people that have So I invite those that criticize the year. The current funding issue con- killed Americans and want to keep activities in Guantanamo Bay to go cerning Amtrak brings up a funda- killing Americans. These are people there, go with me and see firsthand, be- mental question as to where this Na- picked up off the battlefield. They were fore other outrageous statements are tion stands on public transportation. not wearing uniforms. They were not made about the conduct there. We have an opportunity to improve the state sponsored, but there were there So tomorrow night at Guantanamo system that serves our needs for pas- for a reason, and that was to execute Bay, orange glazed chicken, fresh fruit senger rail service, or we can let it fall innocent people on the battlefield. crepes, steamed peas, and mushrooms apart and leave this country’s travelers The Geneva Convention, Mr. Speak- and rice pilaf. It does not sound like and businessmen with absolutely no al- er, protects those people who are at bread and water to me. ternative forms of public transpor- war, who have a chain of command. And do you think our troops and in tation. They wear a uniform. They do not have Afghanistan and Iraq are getting concealed weapons and they do not kill crepes tonight? Probably not. They are b 1745 the innocents. Mr. Speaker, terrorists eating C-rations out of cans as they Without the funding Amtrak needs to do just the opposite. They kill inno- stand there in the desert and the heat, keep operating, we will soon see people cents. They have concealed weapons. protecting the world for democracy. that rely on Amtrak to get to work They certainly do not wear uniforms, Those that say there is inhumane each day waiting for a train that is not and there is no chain of command. torture there in Guantanamo, let me coming. They are not protected, Mr. Speaker, say this: That dog just will not hunt. We continue to subsidize highways by the Geneva Convention. We need to be more concerned about and aviation; but when it comes to our International law allows any nation Americans being killed by terrorists in passenger rail system, we refuse to pro- the right to detain any combatants for Iraq than we are about some terrorist vide the money Amtrak needs to sur- a conflict’s duration to prevent them that is locked up in Guantanamo Bay vive. from killing and to gather further use- that gets a cold blueberry muffin. This issue is much bigger than just ful information. The detainees at f transportation. This is about safety Guantanamo are enemy combatants. and national security. Not only should The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a They are there because they shot our we be giving Amtrak the money it previous order of the House, the gen- troops. They were involved in ter- needs to continue to provide services; tleman from Oregon (Mr. DEFAZIO) is rorism. Any many of them have infor- we should be providing security money recognized for 5 minutes. mation that could prevent further at- to upgrade their tracks and improve (Mr. DEFAZIO addressed the House. tacks. safety and security measures in the en- His remarks will appear hereafter in Some of them have been released. tire rail system. And at least 12 of them have been re- the Extensions of Remarks.) Once again, we see the Bush adminis- captured on the battlefield trying to f tration paying for its failed policies by kill Americans. EXCHANGE OF SPECIAL ORDER cutting funds to vital public services Ann Coulter describes the tactics at TIME and jeopardizing more American jobs. Guantanamo Bay in her latest article. It is time for this administration to She said, Interrogators there cannot Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida. step up to the plate and make a deci- yell at detainees. They cannot serve Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent sion about Amtrak based on what is the detainees cold meals except in cer- to claim the time of the gentleman best for the traveling public, not what tain circumstances. Cannot poke the from Oregon (Mr. DEFAZIO). is best for the right wing of the Repub- detainees in the chest or engage in any The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there lican Party and the bean counters at type of pushing without some type of objection to the request of the gentle- OMB. monitor. And we cannot subject the de- woman from Florida? I represent central Florida, which de- tainees to temperatures changes, of all There was no objection. pends on tourists for its economic sur- things. f vival. We need people to be able to get Once a suspected terrorist gets to to the State and enjoy it. Ever since Guantanamo, they are not treated like AMTRAK September 11, more and more people the Nazis treated the Poles and the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a are turning from the airlines to Am- Jews in World War II. Those that com- previous order of the House, the gentle- trak; and they deserve safe and depend- pare the Nazi concentration camps to woman from Florida (Ms. CORRINE able service. Guantanamo owe an apology to those BROWN) is recognized for 5 minutes. This is just one example of Amtrak’s people and those families that died in Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida. impact on my State. Amtrak runs four those concentration camps, and they Once again in the Subcommittee on long distance trains from Florida, em- owe an apology to the American Transportation of the Committee on ploying 990 residents, with wages total- troops. Appropriations, we see Amtrak being ing over $43 million, who purchased

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This argument Constitution states that Members of routes will be maintained and routes to used to criticize H.J. Res. 55, that it Congress must be chosen by the people rural locations will be expensive and might reveal our intentions, is not of the United States and Congress must few. automatically valid. It could just as represent the people of the United I was in New York shortly after Sep- easily be argued that conveying to the States. That means that we, as Mem- tember 11 when the plane leaving JFK enemy that we do not plan an indefi- bers of Congress, need to listen and act airport crashed into the Bronx. I, along nite occupation, as is our stated policy, when the people speak. with many of my colleagues in both will save many American lives. Well, the American people have spo- the House and Senate, took Amtrak But what we convey or do not convey ken. The latest Gallup poll released back to Washington. I realized once to the Iraqi people is not the most cru- last week indicates that the American again just how important Amtrak is to cial issue. The more important issue is people are ready for our military forces the American people and how impor- this. Do the American people deserve in Iraq to begin coming home. tant it is for the Nation to have alter- to know more about our goals: the Nearly 60 percent of Americans be- native modes of transportation. length of time we expect to be in Iraq; lieve that the United States should This is not about fiscal policy. This how many more Americans are likely bring home some or all of our troops is about providing a safe and reliable to be killed and wounded; will there be from Iraq. Just as revealing, the Gallup public transportation system that the a military draft; what is the likelihood poll showed that only 36 percent of citizens of this country need and de- of lingering diseases that our veterans Americans support maintaining our serve. may suffer, remember Agent Orange current troop levels in Iraq. This is the I am asking all of my colleagues to and the Persian Gulf War syndrome; lowest level of support for the war join me and support the full funding of and how many more tax dollars are re- since it began in March 2003. Amtrak. quired to fight this war indefinitely? The American people have stated f The message insurgents do need to loud and clear where they stand, and INFORMATION THE AMERICAN hear and believe is that we are serious their numbers are increasing. They PEOPLE DESERVE when we say we have no desire for a know that the only way to keep our permanent occupation of Iraq. We must sons and daughters from being killed in The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. stick to this policy announced by the Iraq and the only way to end the death MCCAUL of Texas). Under a previous administration. and destruction that occur there every order of the House, the gentleman from A plausible argument can be made single day is to start the process of Texas (Mr. PAUL) is recognized for 5 that the guerrillas are inspired by our bringing our troops home. Clearly, the minutes. presence in Iraq, which to them seems American people are way ahead of Con- Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, last week endless. Iraqi deaths, whether through gress on this issue. H.J. Res. 55 was introduced. This reso- direct U.S. military action, collateral Unfortunately, the President of the lution requires the President to de- damage, or Iraqis killing Iraqis, serve United States is way behind on the velop and implement a plan for the to inspire an even greater number of issue of Iraq. We have asked the Presi- withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. Iraqis to join the insurgency. Because dent to come up with a plan for ending The plan would be announced before we are in charge, justly or not, we are the war. He has not; so we will. December 31, 2005, with the withdrawal blamed for all the deaths. Our efforts to come up with a plan to commence no later than October 1, Continuing to justify our presence in began in January when I introduced 2006. Iraq because we must punish those for legislation calling for the President to The media and the opponents of this 9/11 is disingenuous to say the least. We begin bringing our troops home. Thir- plan immediately and incorrectly are sadly now at greater risk than be- ty-five Members of Congress support claimed it would set a date certain for fore 9/11. We refuse to deal with our this legislation. a total withdrawal. The resolution, own borders while chastising the Syr- We continued our effort on May 25 hardly radical in nature, simply re- ians for not securing their borders with when I introduced an amendment to states the policy announced by the ad- Iraq. An end game needs to be in place, the defense authorization bill calling ministration. We have been told re- and the American people deserve to for the President to create a plan for peatedly that there will be no perma- know exactly what that plan is. They Iraq; 128 Members of Congress, includ- nent occupation of Iraq and the man- are the ones who must send their sons ing five Republicans and one Inde- agement will be turned over to the and daughters off to war and pay the pendent, voted in favor of this sensible Iraqis as soon as possible. bills when they come due. amendment. The resolution merely pressures the It is clear that the United States administration to be more precise in f must develop a smarter agenda, an its stated goals and make plans to The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. agenda for Iraq, an agenda that will go achieve them in a time frame that ne- PEARCE). Under a previous order of the beyond when we bring our troops home gates the perception we are involved in House, the gentlewoman from Ohio from Iraq. a permanent occupation of Iraq. (Mrs. JONES) is recognized for 5 min- It is more important that we have a The sharpest criticism of this resolu- utes. plan for the future than a continued tion is that it would, if implemented, (Mrs. JONES of Ohio addressed the military occupation, because this 2- give insurgents in Iraq information House. Her remarks will appear here- year war has left us disturbingly weak- that is helpful to their cause and harm- after in the Extensions of Remarks.) ened, weakened against the true secu- ful to our troops. This is a reasonable f rity threats we face here at home. Let concern, which we address by not set- us not forget that Osama bin Laden is ting a precise time for exiting Iraq. ORDER OF BUSINESS still at large, and al Qaeda continues to The critics, though, infer that the Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask recruit new members in Iraq and else- enemy should never have any hint as unanimous consent to speak out of where. to our intentions. order. Once we have a plan in place to end Yet, as we prepared to invade Iraq, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there the war in Iraq, we can start the long the administration generously in- objection to the request of the gentle- process of securing the United States formed the Iraqis exactly about our woman from California? and Iraq for the future. We can accom- plans to use ‘‘shock and awe’’ military There was no objection. plish this through SMART Security.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00061 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.124 H21PT1 H4866 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 SMART Security, which has the sup- leagues know, we had a series of six Russ would be with him and gave him mine port of 50 Members of Congress, is a votes on the House floor. and Russ’ numbers. Sensible Multilateral American Re- Mr. O’Reilly proceeded to tell his na- From 5:45–6:30 Porter called me looking for sponse to Terrorism for the 21st Cen- tional audience last night that I Curt and Russ. I informed him they were still in the classified meeting and I was not tury, and it will help us address the ‘‘snubbed’’ him; that I failed to call able to get in touch with him. threats we face as a Nation. him; that I was inconsiderate; that I Around 6:15 I asked if they need to cancel— SMART Security will prevent acts of was rude. Porter said that wasn’t an option. terrorism in countries like Iraq by ad- Talk about spin, Mr. Speaker. So f dressing the root conditions which give today, I sent a memo to Mr. O’Reilly rise to terrorism in the first place: pov- explaining the facts, and I would re- ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER erty, despair, resource scarcity, and mind Mr. O’Reilly that the Secretary PRO TEMPORE lack of educational opportunities. of Energy and an important meeting on The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. SMART Security encourages the nuclear issues in the former Soviet PEARCE). Members are reminded to ad- United States to work with other na- States takes my top priority. dress their comments to the Chair. tions to address the most pressing b 1800 global issues. SMART addresses global f So do the six votes I had to pass last emergencies diplomatically, instead of IMMIGRATION REFORM by resorting to armed conflict. night on the defense appropriation bill Instead of maintaining a long-term for 2006. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a military occupation of Iraq, our future Mr. O’Reilly, we do not need more previous order of the House, the gentle- efforts to help the Iraqi people must spin. We need honesty and candor. You woman from Texas (Ms. JACKSON-LEE) follow the SMART approach: humani- call for it every day. Now perhaps your is recognized for 5 minutes. tarian assistance, coordinated with our staff is not providing the appropriate Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. international allies to rebuild Iraq’s level of service to you. Speaker, as I raise this issue with my war-torn physical and economic infra- Mr. Speaker, because I had some con- colleagues, first I want to acknowledge structure. tacts from constituents and Members, I that I believe that there are a number That is what I mean when I talk would put the summary of my state- of efforts trying to make their way about SMART Security. We can defend ment to Mr. O’Reilly and the notes of through the House and Senate on im- America by relying on the very best of my staff about their contact with Mr. migration reform that really should American values, our commitment to O’Reilly’s show into the CONGRES- give us an opportunity to have a degree peace and freedom, our compassion for SIONAL RECORD. of synergism to respond to the con- the people of the world, and our capac- BILL O’REILLY, I have now witnessed the cerns of the American people. ultimate spin—from, of all people, you. I rise today because I just finished a ity for multilateral leadership. My scheduled taping last evening between Mr. Speaker, we must follow a smart- hearing in the Subcommittee on Immi- 6–6:30 pm was pre-empted by a prolonged 5:15 gration and Claims on the important er approach, and we must do this as we pm meeting with the Secretary of Energy work to help the Iraqi people. That Sam Bodman regarding important National topic of employer sanctions. It would means implementing a plan to end the Security issues related to non-proliferation seem we should have agreement that war in Iraq. I invite the President, all activities in the former Soviet states and by employers should be penalized when Americans, and all Members of Con- a series of 6 recorded votes on the Floor of they engage in the hiring of undocu- gress to join me in this effort. the House that started at 6:30 pm and lasted mented aliens. But interestingly until 7:15 pm. enough, there is not agreement. The f Contrary to your spin, my staff did give business community is particularly MEDIA SPIN notice to your staff of both conflicts and sensitive to this, claiming they are not kept them informed of my status during the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a scheduled taping. In addition my staff of- able to find enough workers to fill previous order of the House, the gen- fered for me to appear as soon as votes these jobs. Then, of course, I think the tleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. ended. Finally when I tried to personally AFL–CIO has a meritorious argument WELDON) is recognized for 5 minutes. reach you, your staff was not willing to pro- that when you enforce employer sanc- Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. vide my staff with a suitable number. tions, employers who are unscrupulous Speaker, in this job, all of us are used As much as I would have enjoyed returning will then enforce them against inno- to misinformation, lies and distortions to your show, my job as a Member of Con- cent persons, some documented and gress and as Vice Chairman of both the some undocumented, by either mas- and manipulation by the media. We House Armed Services Committee and Home- refer to that as spin; but, Mr. Speaker, land Security Committee is to cast my re- sively firing them or punishing them I never expected such spin to come corded vote on issues that affect our nation, with lower wages and bad working con- from the no-spin zone of Bill O’Reilly. in this case, the 2006 Defense Appropriations ditions. Mr. Speaker, on Friday my staff con- bill and related amendments which will fund Interestingly enough, those who are firmed that I was to do a television our troops through 2006. fired will go out the door and that un- show with Mr. O’Reilly last evening. It I hope you understand these obligations scrupulous employer will then find oth- was initially scheduled to be seven and I apologize for any inconvenience this ers who are more timid to fulfill those unanticipated series of events caused to you jobs and they themselves may be un- o’clock. I had a 5:15 meeting scheduled and your staff. with the Secretary of Energy. CURT WELDON. documented. There are many issues At some point in time yesterday As of Friday, O’Reilly was marked as ten- that cannot be handled piecemeal. morning, the O’Reilly show changed tative on the PR calendar and CW’s calendar Let me share another thought that that appointment to 5:50. My 5:15 meet- at 7:00 pm. came up in the hearing. There is a ing was still in place. My staff was After I left on Friday the DOE meeting was basic pilot program that requires em- fully in touch with the O’Reilly show. set up for 5:15 pm. ployers to provide certain documenta- We gave them the information, and I At some point on Monday morning, tion when they hire an individual. In- O’Reilly was confirmed by PR and changed attended a very important meeting on their calendar to 5:50. terestingly enough, only a few of the with Secretary of Energy Bodman in At 12:35 pm, I was notified of the change employers around the Nation can par- his office, a classified meeting, on the via e-mail from Kristina. ticipate. Why? Because we have not specific problems with the threats of I spoke to Peter on the phone and asked if given the Department of Homeland Se- the nuclear program and capabilities of O’Reilly could be moved to later given Curt’s curity enough dollars to work the pro- the former Soviet states. 5:15 meeting. He informed me it couldn’t but gram beyond it being a pilot program. That meeting ran over, partly be- not to worry if Curt wasn’t there right at It was also brought to our attention cause the meeting was interrupted sev- 6:00. that maybe we should look to those The change was made to CW’s calendar at eral times by important phone calls 1:25 pm. who make the fraudulent documents the Secretary had to make. I spoke to Porter around 1:30 and informed and find a way to weed them out. Following that meeting, which ended him of Curt’s schedule prior to O’Reilly (i.e. What this Nation really needs is com- somewhere around 6:15, as my col- a meeting with the Sec. of DOE). I told him prehensive immigration reform. And so

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00062 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.127 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4867 I offer to my colleagues the Save ing with my colleagues and to give a after when he was out in public, he was America Comprehensive Immigration hearing to all of the immigration bills shaking the hands of those he served. Act of 2005. It is H.R. 2092. We call it that bring together the various He enjoyed hearing about their lives the fix-it bill. There are many fine ef- thought processes of this Congress, Re- and telling stories about his. He lis- forts going through the United States publicans and Democrats alike. Until tened to their problems and sometimes Congress. But what I think immigrants we open the door to listening to all of used his own money to fix whatever need is a bill that fixes some of the 1996 us who have these ideas, we are not problems they were having. immigration reform effort. going to move immigration reform Representative Jake Pickle was a So we start off by focusing on family- along. good man who will be terribly missed based immigration by increasing the I call on the chairmen and ranking by all who knew him. allocation of family-based visas. In members of our respective hearings to So tonight as I stand in the well of speaking to a group of IndoAmericans, call for hearings in the House and the this esteemed body, a place so loved it was sad to hear the complaint about Senate on this important legislation and respected by Jake, I am comforted not being able to have loved ones come and the legislation of my colleagues so in the thought that the Lord above is to the United States simply for a visit we can finally answer the concerns of thankful to have this great servant or simply to visit relatives in the the American people. back home in heaven where I am sure United States that are ill or having f he is telling stories and shaking the some event. I have heard that from hands of everyone that he meets. REMEMBERING THE HON. JAKE many, many immigrant communities f around America, many of them docu- PICKLE REPORT ON RESOLUTION PRO- mented with status, but yet they can- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a VIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF not invite their relatives to visit. previous order of the House, the gen- Another issue is protection against tleman from Texas (Mr. MCCAUL) is H.R. 2985, LEGISLATIVE BRANCH processing delays. Many offices have recognized for 5 minutes. APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2006 had to deal with constituents of Mem- Mr. MCCAUL of Texas. Mr. Speaker, Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of bers when they call the various centers Texas and our Nation has lost one of Florida from the Committee on Rules, that deal with immigration where they its most genuine and gracious public submitted a privileged report (Rept. have lost paperwork or lost finger- servants. Last Saturday morning, No. 109–144) on the resolution (H. Res. prints, stopping the good flow of immi- James Jarell Pickle, ‘‘Jake,’’ passed 334) providing for consideration of the gration. away on Saturday, with his wife by his bill (H.R. 2985) making appropriations This bill includes acquisition of citi- side. For 31 years, Congressman Jake for the legislative branch for the fiscal zenship for children born abroad and Pickle represented my hometown in year ending September 30, 2006, and for out of wedlock to a United States cit- this esteemed body as a Representative other purposes, which was referred to izen father. It allows aunts, uncles or to the 10th Congressional District of the House Calendar and ordered to be grandparents to adopt orphaned or Texas. And he did so with integrity, printed. abandoned children of the deceased rel- humility, honor, and a sense of humor f ative so it does not leave in limbo chil- that we should all attempt to mirror. DEFEAT CENTRAL AMERICAN dren outside of the country who have a As a current holder of Congressman FREE TRADE AGREEMENT United States citizen father, or or- Pickle’s seat, I work hard every day to phaned children here in the United provide the same kind of service to my The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a States who do not have an immediate constituents that Jake Pickle did to previous order of the House, the gen- parent, a mother or father. those he served. He was not just good tleman from North Carolina (Mr. It provides earned access to legaliza- at what he did, he was the best. JONES) is recognized for 5 minutes. tion. We run away from the language of His family talks about the proudest Mr. JONES of North Carolina. Mr. amnesty only because people give it vote he ever cast was in 1964 when he Speaker, we have coming before us just a bad name. But we give earned ac- voted for the Civil Rights Act. He was pretty soon an issue called CAFTA, the cess to people who are hardworking one of only six southern Representa- Central America Free Trade Agree- and providing income and taxes to the tives to vote for that important piece ment. I want to start my comments, United States. We realize that intel- of legislation. In the 1980s, he worked Ross Perot, when he was a candidate ligence, meaning keeping the bad guys hours on end to protect Social Security for the Presidency on October 19, 1992 out, is important so we provide more and keep it solvent. He worked even at a Presidential debate said, ‘‘You im- resources for border security. And we harder in the 1990s to turn Austin into plement that the NAFTA, the Mexican understand the issues of OTMs, other the high-tech society that it is today. trade agreement where they pay people than Mexicans, that are coming across It is because of Jake Pickle that Aus- a dollar an hour, have no health care, the border, maybe some who may want tin continues to see new high-tech no retirement, no pollution controls, to do us harm, and we want to build up businesses locate to Texas’s capital and you are going to hear a giant suck- security at the northern and southern city. The University of Texas has also ing sound of jobs being pulled out of border. benefited greatly because of Jake Pick- this country right at a time when we Employment-based immigration. We le. UT would not be churning out the need the tax base to pay the debt.’’ want to deal with the unfair immigra- latest in technology and new patents, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Perot was exactly tion-related employment practices, and as it now does every year, without the right. We know Ross Perot as a suc- we have in this particular legislation help that Congressman Pickle pro- cessful businessman and a man who protection for American jobs. We have vided. It is also my honor to represent loves and cares about America. in this legislation training of Ameri- the research arm of the University of Let me tell Members what happened cans and the ability for an employer to Texas which bears the name J.J. Pickle since December 1993 when NAFTA be- have to attest that they cannot find an Research Campus. came the law of the land. Before American for this job before they can But even as good and as smart a poli- NAFTA, we ran a trade surplus with hire someone who is not a citizen of tician as he was, he is known today not Mexico. Now the U.S. runs a $45 billion the United States of America. for his ability to influence legislation annual trade deficit with Mexico; from We address the question of removal or to help bring new business to his dis- a trade surplus to a trade deficit. waivers. We address the question of di- trict, but rather for being a good and In addition, my home State of North versity visas. decent man. It is for this reason his Carolina since NAFTA became the law Mr. Speaker, in conclusion, we ad- nickname was Gentleman Jake. This of the land has lost over 200,000 manu- dress the question of the violence gentleman served in the Navy during facturing jobs. The United States has against women who happen to be un- World War II, and worked his way lost over 2.5 million manufacturing documented. This is a comprehensive through college by delivering milk to jobs. approach to the broken immigration Austin homeowners. During his first Let me give some facts about illegal system. I for one look forward to work- congressional campaign and every time aliens coming from Mexico across the

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00063 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.130 H21PT1 H4868 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 border. Prior to NAFTA, the average women in uniform and their families foreigners buy our debt and spare us was 2 million. Since NAFTA, it is bet- and ask God to please continue to bless the outlay for now, we still have to pay ter than 7.5 million. CAFTA will con- America. the interest. We still have debt service. tinue these trends. Eighty-five percent f The debt service in the total budget of the language in CAFTA is identical this past year was $165 billion, $170 bil- THE BUDGET DEFICIT to the language in NAFTA. lion, and it is going up inexorably be- Let me give another example of what The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. cause we have got more debt, and in- has happened to American jobs. In 2002, MCCAUL of Texas). Under the Speaker’s terest rates are rising again. As those the Congress, I did not support this leg- announced policy of January 4, 2005, two factors converge, you are going to islation, decided to give the President the gentleman from South Carolina see the debt service, the interest we trade promotion authority, known as (Mr. SPRATT) is recognized for 60 min- pay on the national debt, go up to $200 TPA. Since that time, America’s an- utes as the designee of the minority billion, $225 billion, $250 billion within nual trade deficit grew $195 billion to leader. the foreseeable future. This is an obli- $617 billion. That is how much the Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, this is gation that has to be paid. Indeed, trade deficit grew. not the first nor will it be the last time there is no other item in the budget Let me give an example of TPA and that we take the floor of the House that is more obligatory. The United how it relates to North Carolina. Since here in the well of the House to address States of America has to pay its inter- TPA passed, North Carolina has lost a problem that is of great concern to est on its national debt or otherwise over 52,000 manufacturing jobs. The all of us, and that is the budget deficit. our currency and our credit would col- United States has lost over 600,000 This year past, it was $412 billion and lapse. But once we pay the debt, once manufacturing jobs. while it appears to be improving, we pay the debt service, the effects are thankfully, a bit for the current fiscal that priorities in the budget we could b 1815 year, it still will come in likely in the otherwise afford and fund and increase, Mr. Speaker, on my left I have got range of $350 billion, and that will such as medical research and scientific two news articles, one from a couple of make it the third-largest deficit in our research and education for our children years ago in the Raleigh paper known Nation’s history, the third in a row and Social Security and Medicare for as the News & Observer; it says, where we have approached the pin- the elderly become all the harder to Pillowtex Goes Bust, erasing 6,450 jobs. nacle, the largest deficits we have run fund because the interest has to be paid These were five plants in North Caro- in our country’s history. first. lina that lost that many jobs, 6,450. We are not here to score political This deficit problem is all the more Then I have got another article from a points. We are here to call attention to distressing because it did not have to business in my county I share with the a problem that we think has grave con- be. Just a few short years ago in the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. sequences. It may be that we do not year 2000, the last full fiscal year of the BUTTERFIELD), the Wilson Daily Times, feel or see the consequences right now, Clinton administration, this country says VF Jeanswear Closes Plants, Last but we feel that a day of reckoning lies was running a surplus of $236 billion. It 445 Jobs Gone By Next Summer. The on or just over the horizon. I believe is a fact. You can look it up. Every jobs are going down to Honduras. that, because sooner or later the fun- year the Clinton administration was in Mr. Speaker, a couple of more points. damentals in any market begin to take office due to two budget plans we CAFTA means more U.S. job losses. We hold. It happened to the dot coms; it adopted, one in 1993, another in 1997, know what NAFTA has done. We know could happen again to us with the the bottom line of the budget got bet- what Trade Promotion Authority, budget deficit that we are running ter and better and better. TPA, has done. CAFTA provides every today and the trade deficit we are run- The President came to office and in- incentive to outsource jobs to Central ning also today. It could hammer the herited a deficit of $290 billion. He sent America. Average wages in Nicaragua dollar. After all, the fundamental is, us on February 17 a deficit reduction are 95 cents an hour; Guatemala, $1 an simply stated, like this. When you plan that barely passed the House, a hour; El Salvador, $1.25 an hour. Plus, raise the demand for credit, which is one-vote margin, barely passed the these countries have few labor and en- what you do when the government runs Senate, the Vice President’s tie-break- vironmental standards and CAFTA a deficit of $312 billion, $412 billion, ing vote. does little to improve them. when you raise the demand for credit, But look what happened, as this CAFTA will allow the Chinese to eventually you raise the price of credit. chart here shows. The deficit every backdoor fabrics into Central America In other words, you raise interest year came down and down and down to where it can be assembled and shipped rates. What do interest rates do when the point where in the year 2000, we into United States duty-free. The last they go up? They stifle growth in the had a surplus, without including Social thing we need is to help China. We have economy, long-term growth and short- Security, a unified surplus of $236 bil- already outsourced 1.5 million jobs to term growth. They could have dev- lion. Unprecedented. This was the sur- China in the last 15 years. astating consequences, for example, on plus that President Bush inherited Mr. Speaker, as I begin to close, I the housing market, on the automobile when he came to office in the year 2001. want to show my fellow colleagues that market. That is a likely consequence And that is why I say this did not have might be watching in their offices, re- of the policies we are running today. to be. We did not just fall out of the cently this was dropped by my office, For the time being, we have not felt sky with these enormous deficits. We and it says candy decorated fruit or seen the results, the consequences, did it because of policies that were snacks, real fruit. Then you turn it and largely that is due to the fact that adopted and passed in this House. Not over and it says, ‘‘made in China.’’ If this country is running large current by all of us. Most of us on our side of the candy we are eating now in Amer- account deficits, which means we are the aisle voted against them. Foresee- ica, many of it is made in China, then pumping dollars into the world econ- ing this problem and knowing how dif- I wonder if one day at the rate we are omy which come back here, are recy- ficult it had been to move the budget going of losing these manufacturing cled here by the purchase of our Treas- finally back into the black again for jobs, that we might be buying our ury bonds and Treasury notes. So for the first time in 30, 40 years, we did not tanks for our military from China. now, foreigners are lending us the want to see us backslide into deficit, I hope, Mr. Speaker, that does not money to bridge our budget, which is but that is exactly what happened. happen. I hope the House will defeat sparing us the effect of high interest What we have seen now is that we CAFTA. It is not good for America, it rates. have gone from a surplus, projected, of is not good for the American worker, But at the same time, debt means de- $5.6 trillion between 2002 and 2011. That and I do not even believe it is good for pendence, and over the course of years was the 10-year projection that Mr. the people who live in Central Amer- if we continue this practice, we will Bush’s own economists made at the Of- ica. find ourselves having undercut our fice of Management and Budget when Mr. Speaker, with that I will close by independence in foreign policy which is he took office, $5.6 trillion. We have asking God to please bless our men and something none of us wants. Even when gone from a projected surplus of $5.6

VerDate Aug 04 2004 04:09 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00064 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.131 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4869 trillion to a projected deficit of $3.8 doing is instead of paying for defense in $450 billion. The following year, 2003, trillion over that same 10-year period our time, we are telling our children they were back again. This time they of time. That is a swing of $9.4 trillion they have got to pay for defense in wanted a phenomenal increase in the in the wrong direction. We have never their time and our time, too, or at debt ceiling of the United States, $984 seen a fiscal reversal like this, at least least the incremental cost of it. billion, an increase in 1 year of $984 bil- since the Great Depression, $9.4 trillion This is the concern that we would lion. How much is that? That amount in the wrong direction, and much of like to address tonight, the fact that is equal to the entire debt of the that was policy driven. we are not facing up to the situation United States the year that Ronald The President says we have got to that confronts us and the fact that we Reagan took office. It is a bit more get our hands around spending, but a have a budget deficit of enormous pro- than that, as a matter of fact. The fol- large part of this problem was driven portions and by any honest, fair, and lowing year, having obtained a $984 bil- by his insistence that we have accurate calculation or projection of lion increase on May 26, 2003, the fol- unprecedentedly large tax cuts, and what it is likely to be, it shows little lowing September, 2004, Secretary when the surpluses that we thought signs of abating over the next 10 years, Snow was back saying, I need $800 bil- were going to obtain over that 10-year as this particular chart right here will lion more. period of time appeared to be over- show. b 1830 stated substantially, by some esti- This chart shows where we believe, mates as much as 50 percent, the Presi- using Congressional Budget Office They ran through $984 billion of debt dent charged ahead with his tax cuts. numbers, the President’s budget, if im- ceiling in 1 fiscal year and came back In 2002, 2003, in addition to 2001, there plemented over the next 10 years, will hat in hand and asked for $800 billion were substantial tax cuts, and the loss take us. The budget deficit will get a more, which the Congress passed in of revenues has had a big impact on the bit better, as indeed it is scheduled to late November of last year. And then bottom line and has helped put the def- improve this year, probably $350 bil- when the budget resolution was icit almost intractably in the red lion. Good news. The bad news is that brought to the floor this year, the Re- again. the President in projecting the future publican budget resolution, when it But most of the spending increases course of the deficit, number one, is passed the House and passed the Sen- have come on the discretionary side of only giving us a 5-year projection; and, ate, buried in it was a provision that the budget in the appropriation bills number two, he has left out some sig- called for another increase in the debt that we adopt every year in four dif- nificant costs, such as the cost of ceiling of $781 billion. ferent accounts, four different pro- maintaining troops in Afghanistan and This is a budget which they claim grammatic areas, which is important Iraq after the year 2005, such as the will eventually move us to halving the to know, because all of these areas are cost of fixing Social Security, such as deficit over 5 years. At the same time areas where the President has sought the cost of repairing something we call they make that claim, they bury in and we have provided what he has the alternative minimum tax, which that budget a request provision that sought in the way of additional in- actually raises tax revenues above the Congress increase the debt ceiling by creases in spending. level that would otherwise exist if peo- $781 billion. Add those together, 4 fiscal If you look at the increases in spend- ple were not required to pay this alter- years, we get an increase in the deficit, ing over and above current services, native minimum tax. It will soon, by an increase in the national debt of and that is the amount of money nec- 2010, affect 30 million tax filers as op- $3.015 trillion. That is just phenomenal. essary to maintain the government posed to 4 million this year. There it is on the back of an enve- services at their existing level, if you I do not think politically that is like- lope. It sums up the fiscal course and look at those spikes in the budget that ly to happen, and if you fix it to avert policy of this administration as suc- rise above funding for current services that problem, the problem of having cinctly as anything we can present: $3 alone, you will find the landscape for 4 the alternative minimum tax apply to trillion of additional debt-borrowing years dotted by the same increases, middle-income families, for whom it capacity, which will basically all be namely, defense, homeland security, was never intended, then you get a re- used up by the end of this fiscal year, the response to 9/11, they account for 90 sult here of a deficit, 10 years from and they will be back again asking for to 95 percent of the increases in spend- now, equal to $621 billion. No improve- more. ing. ment; and indeed after a few years of So this is what concerns us. We So, while the President is saying that slight moderation, a worsening deficit frankly do not think the country can Congress needs to tighten spending, in every year to the point where at the continue on this course. And that is truth much of the spending that has end of our 10-year time frame, it is up why we are here tonight to talk about driven the budget into deficit is spend- to $621 billion. a problem that we think should be a ing that has been called for for defense Let me just wrap up this introduc- front-burner problem for both parties, and homeland security and for the re- tory presentation of what concerns us both Houses, both executive branch sponse to 9/11, called for by the Presi- about the budget by showing you sort and the Congress. It needs more atten- dent, passed by the Congress, and the of the back-of-an-envelope, the easiest tion than it is now receiving. fact of the matter is we are simply not way I know to explain what I think is Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman paying the tab for these necessary ex- an out-of-control situation. Back in from Maine. penses. 2001 when the Bush administration was Mr. ALLEN. Mr. Speaker, I thank I am not disputing the need for this pushing its tax cuts, they came to us the gentleman for organizing this money. What I am disputing and call- and they said, The future looks so rosy event to talk about the Federal deficit ing attention to is the fact that we are that you can pass these tax cuts, you and the Federal debt. And the chart he taking the tab for defense in our time can pass these defense increases, you has up there is really significant. against terrorists in the Middle East can pass our budget, and we won’t be What our Republican friends are and elsewhere and shoving this tab off back to ask you to increase the debt doing, if we look at what they do and onto our children. ceiling of the United States, a legal not what they say, they have decided That is why I often say that the def- limit beyond which we cannot borrow. that the most important thing in this icit is a problem for the economy be- We won’t be back until 2008, 2010. country is to increase payments for in- cause eventually it will raise interest Well, the Republicans in the House terest on the national debt. It makes rates and stifle long-term growth, and the Republicans in the Senate no sense, but that is what they are eventually it will affect the priorities passed the President’s budget pretty doing. And let me give a couple of num- in the budget because debt service is much as he requested, with a few mod- bers. In 2004, the Federal Government obligatory and has to be paid; and as erations. The next year they were paid $160 billion for net interest on the debt service increases, other things get back, hat in hand. 2002, notwith- Federal debt held by public investors. eclipsed and shoved aside. But the big- standing what they told us the pre- By 2010, we will be spending about $312 gest problem with the deficit in my vious year, they needed an increase in billion, almost double the $160 billion book is moral, because what we are the debt ceiling of the United States of that we spent last year.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00065 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.133 H21PT1 H4870 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 So it is pretty clear when we look at improve prenatal and infant care in fense increases, to the Congress of the the chart in front of us here today that areas with high infant mortality rates. United States. They said even with over the next 6 years education spend- So in those areas with high infant these policies, this is the budget we ing will not go up much at all, environ- mortality rates, we are just saying we foresee. This is the bottom line that we mental spending will be about the are going to take money away from foresee between 2005 and 2011. same, spending on veterans benefits those parents and their kids. We are Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. And, Mr. will go up slightly; but there is an ex- going to take it away because we have Speaker, just a few years later, look at plosion in interest on the national to pay interest on the national debt. where we are. The President, down in debt. So the Republicans in this House They are freezing money for the child the ditch where we are now, has prom- are basically saying we are not spend- care block grant at last year’s level. ised to reduce the deficit 50 percent. ing enough on interest on the national They are freezing after-school health First of all, how modest a goal is that debt. The trouble with that is that it is care funds. It goes on and on. It is just from someone who inherited a $5 tril- of virtually no use, virtually no use to an abomination. lion surplus to say that he is going to any of us. To do what we are doing in this budg- clean up half the mess that he has Think about the contrast between et to our children, cutting their health caused? Is that a realistic goal? Is that fiscal year 2005, which we are in, and care funds, decreasing opportunity, a fair goal to be judged by? fiscal year 2006, the coming year. There simply so we can pay for tax cuts and Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, reclaim- is an increase in spending on interest a war in Iraq is beyond belief, and we ing my time, I do not think, given his on the national debt of $36 billion. That need to reverse it. budget policies, it is a realistic state- is with a ‘‘B.’’ Thirty-six billion dol- I want to thank the gentleman for ment of what is likely to happen. One lars, that is what we will spend on in- yielding to me. I want to thank the can call it a goal if they will, but I do not think it is a goal that is likely to terest in the national debt next year gentleman from Virginia for letting me be achieved under the policies that are more than we have spent this year. go at this moment in the proceeding. And then let us look at what we are And I am very grateful for all the work now being furthered by this adminis- doing. This year how much is the in- the gentleman from South Carolina is tration. Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, crease that the Department of Edu- doing. in other words, what the gentleman is cation is getting from Labor, Health Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I thank saying is that he started with a sur- and Human Services, and Education the gentleman from Maine for his com- plus; he is now in a deficit, only prom- ments. bill? $118 million. That is the increase ises to eliminate half the deficit; and Mr. Speaker, I now yield to the gen- in the bill, a tiny increase. Far less he probably will not even be able to do tleman from Virginia (Mr. SCOTT). than 1 percent. $36 billion more this that. Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, coming year for interest on the na- Mr. SPRATT. Reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for yielding to tional debt, $118 million more for edu- Mr. Speaker, the gentleman is holding cation. Those priorities are completely me. a chart there that indicates the likely I just want to point out some of the out of whack. path that we think the budget will fol- things that he did not mention in his Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, reclaim- low if we factor everything into it that ing my time, the chart we have here presentation, and using this same is politically realistic: a fix in Social shows graphically exactly what the chart. Could he explain what PAYGO Security, a fix to the alternative min- gentleman is saying, namely, interest means? imum tax, and some reasonable provi- just a bit over $150 billion in 2004, the Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, PAYGO sion for maintaining troops in Afghani- last fiscal year; but by 2010 if the Bush is shorthand for a rule we adopted in stan and Iraq after 2005. policies are completely implemented 1991 and helped us achieve the phe- Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, over the next 6 years, look what hap- nomenal fiscal results I just showed if the gentleman will continue to yield, pens to debt service. That big rising the Members, where every year from if we run up deficits, we have to pay in- red spike goes from $150 billion to over 1993 to the year 2000, we had a better terest on the national debt. And we had $300 billion, and it eclipses everything bottom line and a surplus of $236 bil- a $5 trillion surplus projected. Now we else in the budget. lion in the year 2000. PAYGO simply have over $3 trillion in deficits. The in- Mr. ALLEN. Mr. Speaker, will the provides that if we want to have a tax terest that we are going to pay goes up. gentleman yield further? cut when we have got a deficit, it has By 2010, according to this chart, where Mr. SPRATT. I yield to the gen- to be deficit neutral. That is to say the the interest we were going to pay was tleman from Maine. tax cut must be offset by a tax increase going down and the interest we have Mr. ALLEN. Mr. Speaker, just one somewhere else within the Tax Code, or got to pay is going up, by 2010 the in- more point here. I think we have a we must go to an entitlement program, crease in interest is over $230 billion, moral obligation to our children that which is permanent spending, and cut and that is $230 billion that we are can be easily summarized: number one, it enough to offset the loss of revenues. going to have to pay for interest on the protect them from harm. And that is By the same token, if we want to in- national debt going down the drain what governments at all levels do, try crease or improve a new entitlement, that we are not going to be able to to do, and that is what a lot of social we have to identify a revenue stream spend on public broadcasting; NASA service agencies try to do, protect our or other entitlement cuts to pay for it. Langley Research, in my area, aero- children from harm. It has to be, bottom line, deficit neu- nautics research. Number two, we need to give them a tral. We are closing bases. We are only healthy start in life. We have to pro- Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. And if the going to save a few billion dollars in vide them with quality health care. gentleman will continue to yield, as a base closings, certainly not $230 billion Number three, we have to create oppor- result of that fiscal responsibility and that we are going to have to spend in tunity for them, and that means in- the tough votes that we cast, we were interest payments. We are closing vesting in education, giving them a able to eliminate the deficit and go bases, and the highest estimate I have chance to succeed in life. into surplus, a $236 billion surplus. seen over the course of time is about So as I said before, $36 billion more is What we are looking at now is it does $40 billion that we may save. $230 bil- what the Republicans in the House not get any better. After we have got- lion and growing interest on the na- want to spend on interest on the na- ten back into the ditch, it does not get tional debt. We are cutting back on tional debt. But they are cutting the any better. ship building. We do not have the ship Maternal and Child Health block grant Could the gentleman explain what building budget that we ought to have. by $24 million, or 3 percent. They are this blue line up here is? Cops on the beat being cut. Education failing to raise the maximum Pell Mr. SPRATT. Reclaiming my time, programs, Pell grants. Ask somebody grant by even $100. They are doing that Mr. Speaker, the blue line, believe it or who is going to college how much tui- by only $50. The bill is making a 5 per- not, is the path the Bush administra- tion went up: 5, 10, 15 percent. Pell cent cut in the Healthy Start Initia- tion plotted when it was trying to sell grants are going up 1 percent under tive, which makes targeted grants to its initial budget, its tax cuts, its de- this budget.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00066 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.134 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4871 And it is getting worse before it gets reason we do not have the sort of moral Two months ago, this House ap- better because, as we look at the inter- outrage in the country about the def- proved an increase of $781 billion in the est on the national debt that we are icit, that people are concerned about it statutory debt limit, raising that fig- going to be paying going on and the but they do not quite feel and see it, ure to a record $9 trillion. cost of these tax cuts exploding, the this is the reason why. Mr. Speaker, enough. The out-of-control rise in the na- gentleman indicated that we only had b 1845 a 5-year budget, and when we look at tional debt over the last year and the the cost of the tax cuts after 5 years, Foreigners have been buying our debt rise in our debt demonstrated in the we can see why they did not want to re- in copious quantities, relieving us of, fiscal year 06 budget resolution con- veal a 10-year budget. But this shows for now, the outlay that we would have ference reports are further signs of the the exploding cost of the tax cuts going to make, digging out of our own capital dangerous position I think in which we out to 2015. and our own savings, they are picking find our country and our future. In What it does not show is the Social it up, for now. But what this means is 2001, this country had 10-year projected Security trust fund changing from a that over time, debt means dependence, surpluses of $5.6 trillion, and now we surplus, going into a deficit in 2018. and we are incurring dependence to our have likely 10-year deficits of, deficits That is when we have to be best pre- debtors, and this has happened increas- instead of surpluses, of $3.8 trillion. pared financially to be able to with- ingly since the year 2000. That is a $9.4 trillion reversal. stand the difference in the $100 billion In the year 2000, foreigners held 30 Whether intentional or otherwise, surplus we are getting out of Social Se- percent of our Federal debt. Today, at our country’s current fiscal policies are curity going into a growing deficit. least at the end of the last fiscal year, depriving the Federal Government of And we are going into that change in that had risen by 50 percent, almost 50 future revenues at a time when unprec- our worst possible fiscal situation. percent, or 44 percent; almost half of edented numbers of people are going to Finally, when we put all these tax our debt is held today by foreigners, start to retire, the baby boomers, and cut proposals into perspective, we see and that is a matter of some concern. that is going to put a tremendous that the cost of making the tax cuts It has to be one of the reasons that we strain, a tremendous strain on our permanent, about $12 billion is a lot do not need to be running persistent, country and our ability to pay for So- more than the Social Security short- perennial, huge deficits. cial Security and Medicare. Our current fiscal irresponsibility is fall. In fact, the tax cuts for the top 1 Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, going to land squarely on the shoulders percent is almost enough to cover the I want to thank the gentleman for his leadership. Just one final question. We of our children. entire Social Security shortfall. So we Mr. Speaker, we talk so much here in cannot separate the tax cut policy have complained about how bad a situ- ation we have gotten into, how much Washington, D.C. and in Congress from the spending priorities that we about values, and I say to my col- are going to have to address. work we did to eliminate the deficit, running into surplus. Does the gen- leagues, putting our children deeper When we talk about public broad- and deeper and deeper in debt is not a tleman from South Carolina have a casting, education, ship building, base family value. My dad taught me when plan to get us back on track? closings, aeronautics research in my I was a little kid that you should live Mr. SPRATT. We did. We offered it area, cops on the beat, education, this within your means, live within a budg- on the House floor this past budget sea- budget includes requirements to cut et, and do not spend more money than son, and we will put it up again. As my school lunches and student loans be- you have, and I think that truly is a colleagues will see, it involves fore- cause we are funding tax cuts for the value that we should teach our chil- going some of the tax cuts that the wealthy. There is even one tax cut that dren. It is truly a value that we should Bush administration has pushed is going into effect in the next couple follow here in Congress for our coun- through Congress, primarily for the of years, the PEP and Pease, Personal try. Because if we put our country and reason that the projections upon which Exemption Phase-out, and the Pease our children and grandchildren in a those tax cuts were based have not tax, which the President wants to re- hole so deep we will never be able to peal, that is about $10 billion a year been obtained, they have not come climb out, we will not have done them when the President finally gets his way about, they are a fraction of what was any favors, and I think we will have to repeal those provisions. forecasted and expected. committed an immoral act on them. $10 billion a year and 97 percent of So, we have to adjust our budget, our A true measure of values is not al- that money goes to those making taxes, back to fiscal reality. If we do ways what people say; it is where peo- $200,000 or more. Almost half of it goes that, by the year 2010, 2012, we are back ple decide they are going to spend their to about the top one-fifth of 1 percent. in the black again. But it is a big deci- money. Congress is all about setting Those making $1 million or more, sion. It is a big decision. It can be done, priorities, and part of the priorities, if about half of the benefit of that goes to and that was one of the purposes of our we decide the priorities in this country that group, and we are cutting taxes budget presentation, was to show that are going to be more tax cuts, the per- approximately $10 billion a year when it can be done. We can argue about how manent elimination of the estate tax is it is fully phased in and at the same to do it, but it is certainly feasible. going to cost $280 billion over 10 years, time cutting school lunches and stu- Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. I thank the as opposed to raising the credit to $3.5 dent loans. How moral a decision is gentleman. billion, or $3.5 million, which is only that to make? Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I thank going to cost $80 billion over 10 years; So I would thank the gentleman for the gentleman from Virginia, and I $80 billion versus $280 billion over 10 his answers. And also we have a chart now yield to the gentleman from Kan- years. If we decide that is what is im- up here saying what the promises were sas (Mr. MOORE). portant, then we are going to have to as we went along, as we went into sky- Mr. MOORE of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, make cuts in other domestic spending, rocketing deficits. We were first told I thank the gentleman for having this such as children nutrition programs or that we could do tax cuts without Special Order and for giving us an op- not funding No Child Left Behind, budget deficits and then the next year portunity to talk to the American peo- which we shortchanged $9 billion the our budget will run a little deficit, but ple about what is happening in our first year it was implemented, and it will be short term, then our current country. other important domestic programs. deficit is not large; and now he is Mr. Speaker, on February 17, 2004, I think values need to be discussed in promising maybe to clean up half of it. the national debt of the United States real terms and we need to understand When we run up that kind of debt, of America exceeded $7 trillion for the that again, a true measure of values is and the gentleman has a chart right at first time in our Nation’s history. Six- where we decide we are going to spend his feet, who owns the debt and what is teen months later, our national debt our money. If tax cuts are the most im- the pattern there? Could the gentleman now stands at $7.8 trillion. In that portant thing for us, then that is the explain that chart? time, our country has added $800 bil- way it is going to be. But if we decide Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, reclaim- lion to our national debt, which I be- other things are important to us, chil- ing my time, I said earlier that one lieve is unconscionable. dren’s nutrition programs, education,

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00067 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.135 H21PT1 H4872 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 and all the other domestic programs, one of the most solemn obligations our Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I thank then we need to make those decisions. country has ever made, and yet people the gentleman from Tennessee. I thank the gentleman for providing never mention the true size of the def- I now yield to the gentleman from the time this evening. icit. Well, by 2017 there will not be a North Carolina (Mr. PRICE). Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I recog- surplus anymore, and then the true Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. Mr. nize the gentleman and yield to the deficit will be revealed. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. COO- Look at the year 2035. A reputable yielding, and I thank him also for tak- PER). group, Standard & Poor’s, they rate all ing out this Special Order so that a Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, I thank of the debt in corporate America, all group of our colleagues can speak with the gentleman from South Carolina for the debt in the world. They are pre- our constituents and speak with the yielding. I want to take a little bit dif- dicting that the U.S. Treasury bond by American people about the budget situ- ferent tack, because I think our audi- that year will achieve junk bond sta- ation that we face. And I think the pre- ence has heard a blizzard of numbers tus. If that is not a dire warning, I do vious presentations have left little and sometimes it is hard to take in all not know what is, because the U.S. doubt that it is a budget in crisis, it is that data at one time. Treasury obligation is the soundest ob- a budget in moral crisis in terms of the This chart shows right here a few ligation on this Earth. We have always priorities that this Nation needs to be dates on our calendar. One date is the paid our debts as a Nation. That is the addressing. It is also a budget in fiscal year 2004, last year. Most Americans gold standard of bonds. But here is crisis, taking us over the cliff. got through that year all right, and Standard & Poor’s, the most reputable One might find that easier to take if, they do not realize the fiscal gravity of private sector debt-rating organiza- as the reward for our efforts, so to our situation. Do not take my word for tion, saying that if current trends con- speak, we were getting adequate fund- it. Our Nation’s top accountant said tinue, our bonds will be junk bond sta- ing for major priorities, or if we were that the year 2004 was ‘‘arguably the tus. getting a good stimulus for the econ- worst year in our fiscal history.’’ Look at the final date on here. I omy, but it actually seems we are get- That says a lot. That is a big state- think it is 2040. That is when, again, ting the worst of both worlds. We are ment. That includes the Great Depres- our Nation’s top accountant says that going over the cliff fiscally and we are sion, that includes all the world wars, it will take all revenues collected by not getting these other benefits. the Civil War. How on earth could 2004 the Federal Government to do one So the American people are asking, have been ‘‘arguably the worse year in thing; every penny collected from Fed- where is this economic stimulus? our fiscal history?’’ Because in that eral income tax, Federal corporate tax, Where is this support for what our one year, Congress promised $13 tril- all the other taxes to do one thing. communities need to grow and prosper lion worth of future spending that is What? Service the debt, pay our credi- and widen opportunity? I am afraid the completely unpaid for. Never in Amer- tors. Interest alone. There will not be answer is a lot of this money is down ican history has Congress been that ir- one red cent left for any national de- the rat hole, so to speak, in terms of responsible, and that is why our Na- fense, for any Social Security, for any the budget deficit, the growing debt; a tion’s top accountant made that dec- Medicare, for any anything. That is not lot of red ink, but not very much to laration about 2004. my prediction; that is our Nation’s top show for it. We will look at some future years. accountant. Our colleague, the gentleman from The debt that we are running up that That is the sort of fiscal hole that Maine (Mr. ALLEN) was saying earlier our colleagues have explained so well is these numbers that my colleagues have that there is a familiar refrain these going to cost us so much in interest, revealed are leading us into. This is a days about there is just not enough that by about the last year of the Bush problem. This is a true crisis. I have money to do this and that, and I can administration, we will be spending called this the ‘‘road to ruin.’’ That is vouch for that as a member of the more money on interest payments to what it is. We have to change course. Committee on Appropriations. I think our Nation’s creditors than we will be Let me show my colleagues this. A there is probably no refrain that we on regular domestic government in lot of folks say, well, 9/11 did all this. hear more often, and we hear it on bill America. In a sense, it will be a better What people do not realize is the Cato after bill after bill, that we would like deal to be a creditor of this country Institute revealed in a recent study to have more adequate funding for can- than to be a citizen of this country, be- that President George W. Bush and the cer research and heart disease research cause the creditors will be getting Republican Congress are the biggest and the work of the Institutes of more money than we will be, if we look domestic spenders, nondefense spend- Health; we would like to build more at regular, nondefense, discretionary ing, since Lyndon Baines Johnson. The highways, because we know this cre- spending. title of the report is called ‘‘The Grand ates jobs and because we know it is a Let us look at another key date in Old Spending Party: How the Repub- boost to the economy; we would like to our future. This was in the Wall Street licans Became the Party of Big Govern- do right by Medicaid because we know Journal. At the rate that foreigners are ment,’’ and this graph shows it. One that millions of people are probably lending us money, buying our debt, by might think that some previous Demo- going to have their medicaid benefits February 9, 2012, the Chinese will have cratic Presidents were big spenders, cut or leave the rolls altogether, and bought the last bond from a U.S. cit- but look at this: Carter and Clinton, that adds to the number of uninsured, izen, and then they will own all of our they are down toward the bottom. Lyn- the number of people who are not get- foreign debt. Their pace of buying our don Johnson did try to give us a guns- ting good health care. debt, of loaning us money, of getting us and-butter budget, but only President Sometimes our colleagues say, well, dependent on their credit is so rav- George W. Bush has approached him in we would like to improve the military enous that just a few short years from terms of growth of domestic spending. quality of life. We know that we are ac- now, they will own all the foreign debt, These are the true numbers; this is tually spending less than we did before if current trends continue. what the American people need to the Iraq war on base housing and on Look at another key date. By the focus on. We have a dire deficit situa- some of the provisions for our military year 2017, that will be the first honest tion, and we need action. families that do determine their qual- picture of the deficit in American his- So I appreciate the gentleman, my ity of life. tory, because today the true size of the good friend from South Carolina, hold- Sometimes it is said, we would like deficit is being disguised by the Social ing this Special Order. It is very impor- to do more for first responders here, Security surplus. Last year, people like tant that all the business people of too. We are doing less for our first re- to say the deficit was $412 billion. Well, America, all the citizens of America, sponders than we did before 9/11. And the true deficit was $567 billion, be- wake up and take notice of this situa- by first responders, we mean the people cause $155 billion of Social Security tion, because they are not seeing it on on the front lines every day protecting surplus was used to disguise the true regular television, they are not hearing our communities, policemen, fire- size of the deficit. We owe that money the truth, they need to focus on re- fighters, emergency medical personnel, to Social Security recipients. That is ality. but there just is not enough money.

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Who can believe for his insights into this very critical not just supposed to be a program for we are going too broke because we are problem. And I yield again to the gen- labeling classes failing. No Child Left doing too much cancer research or be- tleman from Virginia (Mr. SCOTT.) Behind was supposed to be a way of di- cause we are building too many high- Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Well, I would agnosing problems that needed address- ways? just ask the gentleman, we have out- ing and then having some resources to The chart here pretty well tells the lined what some would think would be address those needs. But we hear there story. The Republican tax agenda wors- quite a crisis. If you look at this chart, is just not enough resources. ens the deficit by $2 trillion. And the something happened in 2001: we passed This very day, marking up the trans- gentleman can confirm, we are talking all of those tax cuts. I would just ask portation bill in the Appropriations about $1.4 trillion over the next 10 the gentleman from South Carolina Committee, we heard there is just not years and a worsened deficit situation (Mr. SPRATT) if this administration or enough money for Amtrak, not enough because of the Bush tax cuts. And then the majority in Congress has ever ex- money to maintain rail passenger serv- if we take account of the alternative pressed any acknowledgment that ice in this country. We heard there is minimum tax and fix that, then that is there is a problem. just not enough for community devel- another $600 billion. Mr. SPRATT. Well, the administra- opment block grants for the infrastruc- So something like $2 trillion that the tion avows its aversion to debt. And ture and the rehabilitation of housing, Republican tax agenda is going to cost yet it keeps tacking debt on top of to make our neighborhoods viable, and us in the next 10 years is what that debt. The deficit in the year 2003 of $378 on and on and on. We just do not have chart says to me. And then we have the billion, a record. A deficit the next enough money, we hear. next chart. year of $412 billion, another record. A And, Mr. Speaker, I say this as a Mr. SPRATT. Yes, sir deficit this year of $350 billion. And Member who does not believe any pro- Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. Then they claim to be cutting it in half, but gram, domestic or foreign, should have the next chart shows that the story is it does not appear that way if you ac- a blank check. Of course, we need to worse than that, because the Bush curately project it. economize, and of course we need to be budget omits a number of 10-year costs. And then the Bush administration responsible with public funds. But I The repairing of the AMT I have al- begins it second term with this policy also believe that we need to be honest ready mentioned, over $600 billion. The initiative, the first that the President about where the problem is coming cost of social security privatization, brought forth, namely, to privatize So- from in the Republican budget. And the $750 billion. cial Security. In order to privatize So- problem is not mainly coming from do- The realistic estimate of war costs, cial Security, the Bush administration mestic discretionary spending. And the beyond what we are appropriating this would allow workers today to take up ranking member of the Budget Com- year, almost $400 billion. Paying inter- to a third of their payroll taxes, take mittee has made this very, very clear. est on all of this accumulated debt, them out of the Social Security trust And we need to underscore it here to- $267 billion; that is another $2 trillion. fund account where they accumulate to night. Where is it going to end? a surplus, and put them instead into Our friends over at the Center For This is a deeper and deeper hole that private accounts. Budget and Policy Priorities asked an we are digging, and very little of it has That means a diversion of well over interesting question a while back. to do with domestic discretionary $3 trillion over the next 10 years, or the They said, where did that $9.5 trillion spending. But the main victims are first 10 years during which that pro- fiscal reversal come from, going from these domestic investments that we gram would be implemented. And here $5.5 trillion in projected surpluses over are seeing every day on the Appropria- is a depiction in bar graphs of how the next 10 years at the beginning of tions Committee squeezed mercilessly, much additional debt would be stacked the Bush administration? What is now, and squeezed in a way that really do on top of the enormous mountain of Mr. Ranking Member, the projected ad- shut off growth and opportunity for our debt already accumulated if privatiza- dition to the national debt? people. tion took place as the President pro- Mr. SPRATT. We say we have gone Just think what we could do with the posed it. As you can see by the year from a projected surplus between 2002 interest alone on this growing debt. 2025, 2028, we would have racked up $4.9 and 2011 of $5.6 trillion to a cumulative This chart shows how interest pay- trillion in additional debt on top of deficit, over the same time period, of ments are dwarfing appropriations for even more debt incurred in the ordi- $3.8 trillion. That is your $9.4 trillion. other priorities. The red bar is interest. nary budget of the United States. Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. That is The blue is education spending. The So the Bush administration claims the $9.4 trillion reversal. And the ana- brown is environmental spending. The that it does not like debt any more lysts asked, Where did that money go? dark bar is veterans spending. And than anyone else, but its policies con- The largest chunk of it went to Presi- then you look ahead to 2010, you see tradict that claim; and the Social Se- dent Bush’s tax cuts, which mainly the disparity is even more. curity proposal coming on top of an al- benefit the wealthiest people in this That is money down the rat hole, ready out-of-control deficit-ridden country. A significant chunk of it went money that anyone in our hearing to- budget just leaves one incredulous as to defense and security spending after night could think of better public and to what they say about their fiscal pol- 9/11. private uses for that money that we icy. And of course in many ways we have are paying mainly to foreign pur- Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. So in other had agreement that that spending chasers of our national debt. words, they have not only failed to ac- needs to increase, but it is not the bulk But that is where the money is going. knowledge a problem, they are actu- of the increase we are talking about. It It would be more than enough, of ally, with their policies, making the is not the bulk of the fiscal reversal course, to fix the Social Security prob- problem worse? that we are talking about. lem totally. And it is, in the meantime, Mr. SPRATT. This would clearly The poor economy produced some of preempting so much that this country make the problem worse, probably 100 that. So there are many reasons for needs to be doing to ensure expanding percent worse over this 20-year period this. The tax cuts are the main reason. opportunity for all. of time But the one thing that does not figure So I thank the gentleman from South Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Now, if you prominently in the fiscal reversal is Carolina (Mr. SPRATT) for the Special did not acknowledge that there is a domestic discretionary spending. That Order tonight, for the presentations, problem, how likely is it that you will

VerDate Aug 04 2004 02:41 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00069 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.138 H21PT1 H4874 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 take the very difficult, make the very The results were obscured by the fact near the end of the fiscal year with our difficult decisions that we had to make that we had a recession. But the Clin- backs against the wall. in 1993? ton administration built upon the suc- Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. But the Pres- Mr. SPRATT. What we have seen in cesses and upon the processes of the idential leadership would not allow an the 1980s and 1990s in coming to grips Bush administration, the Bush budget irresponsible budget to become law? with the budget deficit, a compelling that moved us from a $290 billion def- Mr. SPRATT. Absolutely not. And problem that nevertheless eluded a so- icit, to a $236 billion surplus. That was then took the situation by the scruff of lution for years, is that unless the ad- built on that foundation. the neck the next year and saw to it ministration, the President and the Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. If you that we finally brought it to a success- leadership of the Congress, is focused fast forward to the present, as the gen- ful resolution, a phenomenal resolu- upon this problem and there is a driv- tleman from Virginia (Mr. SCOTT) was tion: a surplus of $236 billion in the ing priority, it simply will not be re- suggesting, the budget situation is ac- year 2000. solved. tually worse; the objective budget situ- On that high point, since we are just And that is the problem we have ation is actually worse now than what about out of time, let me thank the today. When we finally put the budget we faced in 1990. gentleman from Virginia (Mr. SCOTT), to bed, the deficit to bed, got rid of the This President Bush, unlike the first the gentleman from North Carolina remaining deficit in 1997, it was be- President Bush, does not seem inclined (Mr. PRICE) and the others who partici- cause President Clinton had not only to even agree there is a problem. And pated, about a subject that is of great made that his number one priority for the congressional leadership is totally concern to all of us. We all have this his second term, but he put his first disinclined to take this up. So it feeling that the day of reckoning team on the field. strikes me as a very dangerous kind of awaits us, and we would like to see this Every time we met for negotiations, complacency that really, I guess, be- done consensually, with good policy. Frank Raines was there, Bob Ruben speaks a deterioration of the budget f was there, Erskine Bowles was there, process, but also of leadership to use REPUBLICAN AGENDA everyone in the room had the Presi- the budget process to get our fiscal dent’s proxy and could speak for him; house in order The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. and the participants, the budget prin- Mr. SPRATT. Well, the chart that MCHENRY). Under the Speaker’s an- cipals, knew that the administration the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. nounced policy of January 7, 2003, the was pushing hard. SCOTT) is holding tells an awful lot. gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. Unless everybody pulls hard in that Every year during the Clinton adminis- BLACKBURN) is recognized for 60 min- same direction, there are too many tration, due to those three budget utes as the designee of the majority otherwise outside forces that stray you agreements, which the gentleman just leader. off course. So you have got to have described, the bottom line of the budg- Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Speaker, I leadership to get this done. And we do am pleased to be here with some of my not have that leadership. et got better and better to the point where we finally had the budget in sur- colleagues this evening, and we have a Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. What great agenda. We are going to talk you are saying about leadership, I plus for the first time in 30 years. Every year since the Bush adminis- about the agenda that we have had for think, really is important, because it is this session of the 109th Congress and pretty easy to get cynical about Con- tration came to office in 2001, the bot- tom line has gotten worse to the point some of the positive accomplishments gress and the budget process over the that we have made. But before I start 1980s and the 1990s as so often action where today we have record deficits, on that, I do want to make a couple of was pretty ineffectual. But there were three in a row, record deficits: 378 last comments, Mr. Speaker, regarding my three times, were there not, when Con- year, 412 in the year 2004, it looks like colleagues across the aisle and some of gress rose to the occasion: once in 1990, 350 this year. There have been changes the things that they have had to say. on a bipartisan basis when the first made in the margins, but nothing as They are so very concerned about the President Bush joined with the Demo- dramatic and emphatic as what we did budget and how the budget works and cratic congressional leadership and in 1993 and 1997, and that is why you do about spending. Mr. Speaker, I just concluded a significant budget agree- not see any real results of any sub- have to say it is interesting for me to ment; in 1993, with Democratic heavy stance on the bottom line. hear them. Some of them are talking lifting alone, an agreement that was Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. In 1994, there about how we cannot have tax relief actually rather similar to 1990 and was a change in leadership in Congress. that grows the economy because we moved the ball further; and then the What happened in 1995? would be doing away with needed pro- 1997 agreement led by President Clin- Mr. SPRATT. In 1995? ton, but with some bipartisan support. Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. When the grams. And then we hear that we are Looking back to that 1990 agreement, Congress passed budgets that included not growing the economy enough. And which I think most of us remember as massive tax cuts, what happened to the interesting thing is you cannot a difficult time, but a very positive those budgets? have it both ways. You cannot have it achievement, is there any prospect Mr. SPRATT. Well, in 1995 and in 1996 both ways. You know, you have to set that this present administration or we had better and better bottom lines a course and you have to move forward this present congressional leadership because we had a PAYGO rule, and we on that course, and that is what this has any inclination to undertake this had discretionary spending caps. leadership has done. sort of tack? Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. But did We know that it is the people’s Mr. SPRATT. Well, if the gentleman President Clinton, when he looked at money that we are here to be good will recall, in the late 1980s, we came to those irresponsible budgets, not have stewards of. And it was so interesting, this conclusion that we had to have to veto those budgets, showing Presi- one of my colleagues just said, tax cuts Presidential leadership as well as con- dential leadership? are going to cost us. Tax cuts are going gressional leadership solidly behind us. to cost us. Well, you know what, every b 1915 And so we sponsored resolutions sev- time we pass a bill that spends another eral years in a row which called for a Mr. SPRATT. He did indeed. And dollar, it is costing everybody that is budget summit. then we had a point where we could not paying taxes. When we reduce taxes, we We finally passed such a resolution, come to a conclusion on the budget. As give money back to the people that convened a summit, they met at An- a consequence, the whole government earn that money, the taxpayers. We drews Air Force Base something like 60 was shut down and President Clinton, leave that money in home commu- different days, and once again they upon being reelected said, I do not nities. We leave that money where it succeeded. They capped discretionary want to go through that again. I would belongs, with families. spending; they devised the PAYGO like to see the budget principals get to- Right now in this great Nation of rule. They reduced entitlements, rates gether with the White House budget ours, taxes are the biggest part of any of growth, did all of the things you principals and try to negotiate a deal family budget. We will set about on a needed to do. earlier in the fiscal year, as opposed to course, the leadership in this Congress

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Mr. Speaker, it is phenomenal, but country, and certainly are doing every- Mr. Speaker, I tell you, I am so the good thing is it is an agenda that thing we can to make safer our young pleased that tonight we can take a mo- the American people are interested in. men and women in uniform as they ment and reflect. This is day number It is an agenda that they support. have volunteered their time and made 169 on the 2005 calendar. It is day num- Mr. Speaker, I want to yield some a sacrifice for us to go over and to con- ber 67 in our legislative calendar of the time this evening to our chief deputy quer the enemy that poses a tremen- 109th Congress. And the majority in whip, the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. dous threat to our freedom. this Congress has, we are approaching CANTOR) who is going to talk to us First of all, almost 4 years ago, on the halfway point for this year and we about some of the ways that that this September 11, 2001, there is no question have made substantial progress. legislation impacts those in his State. that all convention in terms of secu- Mr. Speaker, you cannot help but no- Mr. CANTOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank rity was turned on its head. It was on tice that a remarkable thing has been the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. that day, Mr. Speaker, that we saw 19 happening on the floor of this very BLACKBURN), and I commend her for terrorists kill 3,000 Americans in about House over the past few months. It is conducting this Special Order tonight. 20 minutes with box cutters on a plane. something most people probably are It is a great opportunity for us to gath- And that was something that was real- not very aware of and I can assure you, er here and to really do a number of ly demonstrative of the fact that we listening to my colleagues tonight, it things. First, to set the record straight were not thinking the unthinkable. I is something that the minority leader, after responding to the comments dare to say that not many of us would the gentlewoman from California (Ms. made from the other side; but also, as think that such an awful, awful ter- PELOSI) probably hopes will remain un- the gentlewoman pointed out, to talk a rorist attack could occur on our own noticed by most of the American peo- little bit about our vision for America soil, but it did. And as the gentle- ple, but my colleagues across the aisle, and what the majority has been doing woman mentioned, we rose to the occa- many have been abandoning their in pursuing that vision through legisla- sion and we passed the REAL ID act to party leadership in droves and they are tion that we have worked on here in make sure that no longer could a ter- voting in favor of a Republican agenda the House of Representatives. rorist have access to false identifica- and our legislation. And it is worth First of all, I would like to join the tion issued by any State government to noting tonight. gentlewoman in supporting her state- board an airplane and use that airplane People say, oh, Washington is such a ment that we are here as shepherds of as a missile to kill thousands of Ameri- partisan town, nothing ever gets done. the people’s money. It is and should be cans. No longer will that happen. The town is in gridlock. And the mi- our aim to give back as much of the And as the gentlewoman points out, nority leader will come to the floor and money that is earned by the taxpayers, we were able to garner an awful lot of she will rail against the legislation to the people that are earning that support on the other side. But mind that is being brought forth, and she money, so they can use the money and you, it was not support coming from will call it virtually everything in the put it to the work in the best way and the ranks of the minority leadership, book but good. And after all the hot air the most efficient way possible. but rather it was the leadership on the hits the rafters and people put their In that spirit, Mr. Speaker, I would Republican side of the aisle that took card in and cast their vote, dozens of also point out that the other side, in the lead on that issue. Democrats vote for the legislation that making the comment that the Presi- But in terms of security and what is she has just taken 5 minutes criti- dent nor the leadership has noticed going on here at home, we are also cizing. that there is a problem with the def- Why is it, Mr. Speaker? I think it is dealing with a very real problem, and icit, nothing could be further from the probably because the leadership in this that is the spread of gang violence. truth. All that needs to be done is if body is crafting legislation to solve This is not only a State problem, it is they would look back to the deficit, to problems. We are here to solve prob- a national problem. It is an inter- the budget that we passed to deal with lems for the American people. We are national problem that reflects the the deficit. The President has set the here to work to reduce regulation. We growing influx and occurrence of ter- goal that we must halve the deficit are here to lessen the tax burden. We rorists making it across the border, are here to cast votes that will pre- within 5 years. And this House of Rep- joining gangs, and participating in serve individual freedoms for this great resentatives along with the entire Con- some very violent acts. Nation. And we are attracting so many gress managed to pass a budget which A little over a month ago here on the Democrat votes because the legislation for the first time in at least 8 years be- House floor, we passed what was called that is in this body is legislation that gins to chip away at the so-called enti- the gang buster bill to provide Federal appeals to the folks back home, regard- tlement programs. And we will have a law enforcement with extra tools to go less of what the party is. They are bill later this year which does that, to ahead and identify and apprehend indi- folks who are interested in a better life begin to arrest the exponential growth viduals connected with these gangs, and a better quality of life for their in those programs. and also to strengthen penalties so families. But also we passed a budget that ac- that we can put an end to violent ac- Here are just a few examples of what tually achieves an approximate 1 per- tivity in our community. we have seen many of the Democrats cent across-the-board cut in non- Once again, leadership position that come over and support, Mr. Speaker. defense, non-homeland security spend- was taken on the majority side of the One, bankruptcy reform. We passed ing. Although those savings may seem aisle and, frankly, has not been at all that bill with 302 votes, 73 of those meager, this is the first time that we echoed or supported by the other side’s were Democrat votes. have done that since the Reagan era. leadership. None of this, Mr. Speaker, Class action reform. We passed that So, Mr. Speaker, I would differ strong- none of this would be possible if we do with 200 the votes, 50 of those were ly with the statements made by the not ensure that our economy remains Democrats. other side to remind the people across strong. The REAL ID Act. We passed that this country that we are serious. We In going back to the point the gentle- with 261 votes, and that included 42 are serious stewards of their taxpayer woman made about ensuring that the Democrats who joined us in saying let dollars, and aim to be able to give back more taxpayer dollars that we can re- us secure these borders, let us stiffen more of the hard-earned money that turn to the people that earn it, the bet- up these immigration policies. the families and businesses across this ter off and the more productive our The Continuity of Government Act country earn on a daily basis. economy can be, we have witnessed passed with 329 votes, 122 of those were Now, let us turn to maybe the accom- over the last several months an incred- Democrats. plishments that the gentlewoman ible surge in the rate of job creation in

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Do you not just get State of Virginia, we have an approxi- The law, as it stands today, will not tired of the folks who have nothing but mately 3 percent unemployment rate, allow us to continue on the current doom and gloom to offer? It really is which again demonstrates the produc- course, and we have got to do some- remarkable. I do not know what I tivity gains that we have made, but thing to bend the curve to ensure long- would do if I felt that way every single also demonstrates that we have got an term solvency of our Social Security day; the other side of the aisle seems to environment where individuals have system and, at the same time, ensure be so depressed and demoralized about taken to putting their capital at risk that it is not only today’s seniors that what is going on. They are obviously to create jobs and creates value. are beneficiaries of that program but it not paying attention. This is an excit- Now, we all know we are in a 24–7 is our children and our grandchildren. ing time to be an American. It is an ex- global economy. We make no mistake That is what we and the majority citing time for all Americans. about that. I think it is an agreed-upon side of the aisle have set out to do. The gentleman from Virginia (Mr. fact that today we in this country, it is That is where the proposals have CANTOR), our whip, mentioned that it is not just that our constituents are com- stemmed from. It is from the majority a serious time, and it is a very serious peting across town, that it is not the side of the aisle, and to date, Mr. time; but it is an optimistic time as competitor there that we are only wor- Speaker, save but one Member on the well. ried about, but the competitor across opposite side of the aisle, we have seen The gentlewoman mentioned many of the globe. nothing, nothing, no contribution from the issues that we have acted on these b 1930 the other side of the aisle, not even first 169 days. It is the summer sol- contributing to the discussion that You talk to some of the economic de- stice. It is the longest day of the year, there is a problem facing the Social Se- and the light in this longest day we velopers that are active in today’s curity system today. global economy and they will tell you ought to use to shed light on what we It is on that note, Mr. Speaker, with have done over these first 169 days. The there is just as much of a chance that an issue of such import that I implore an individual or company looking to gentlewoman mentioned a couple of the other side of the aisle to join our them that I wanted to touch on. invest resources would do so in Lima, discussion, to contribute to trying to Peru, as they would in Lima, Ohio. Class action reform is one of them, come up with solutions for the Amer- real lawsuit abuse reform that we have That is the reality of today’s global ican people. I implore the other side economy. been able to enact, and we have been and the leadership there to begin to working on that in Congress for years, That is why we must compete. We join the discussion in arriving at solu- must ensure that our tax laws are com- literally, trying to get that done, and tions for the American people. it took Republican leadership and it petitive. That is why we need to make Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Speaker, I took a Republican Congress to get it sure that we enact some permanency in thank the gentleman from Virginia and done. We will end some of the harass- the Bush tax cuts because there is thank him for his thoughts on the issue nothing more obvious than the impact and the things that we have been able ment that is going on in terms of local of those tax cuts on the economy itself to accomplish so far in the 109th Con- lawsuits and protect consumers. The budget resolution was mentioned and the tremendous surge that we have gress. As the gentleman had said, there where we are actually cutting real experienced. have been so many things that we have We need to make sure that the regu- been able to do. spending. The unsustainable rate of latory environment is competitive. We I have got a list of 100 ways in 100 Federal spending that we have we are cannot have our regulators promul- days that we have been able to pass ending. We are ending that gating burdensome regulations that in- legislation that at some point he just unsustainable rate and moving in the hibit capital formation in this country, mentioned: class action reform, fund- right direction. That is optimistic. because literally we are competing ing for the troops, workforce job train- That is positive for our Nation. with every nation in the world. ing, a highway jobs bill, a budget that REAL ID, the border security that Mr. Speaker, we also must be mindful reins in spending, boosting our border she talked about, and we are getting of what we have seen as the prolifera- security and tsunami relief, all things good support from other side of the tion of junk lawsuits. Nothing can be that are very important. As he said, aisle for these things. Forty-two Demo- more inhibitive of capital formation when it comes to issues of taxation, we crats were on that who voted for that, than for an individual or a company to are reducing the rate of taxation and and it is a first step in the right direc- realize that they may be subjected to the impact that has on our families. tion as it relates to border security. frivolous lawsuits and exposure to li- Talking about the need for deregula- The bankruptcy bill the gentle- ability that simply is not warranted. tion. We like to say in my district, we woman mentioned as well. That is real All we have to do is recall the class need deregulation that fosters innova- reform that had 73 Democrats. action suits against some of the fast- tion and spurs job creation because The energy bill we have not talked food chains that posed a potential risk that is what it is about, creating those much about, 41 Democrats on that bill. to them, exposing them to liability for jobs, keeping this economy moving, I want to talk briefly tonight about making hot coffee. Frankly, for an in- keeping it effective. Of course, litiga- something that is near and dear to my dividual to drive up to a drive-through tion, and being certain that we look at heart and I know near and dear to the window, purchase a cup of coffee and class action reform, the need for class gentlewoman’s and that is tax reform. then not realize that it is so hot that if action reform, the need for medical li- The tax reform that we have acted it spills on them it would cause a burn, ability reform. upon this year in this Congress is the to me, defies common sense and reason. At this time, Mr. Speaker, I am going death tax, permanent repeal of the It is those types of frivolous lawsuits to yield to the gentleman from Georgia death tax. that were included in this class action (Mr. PRICE) who has certainly been This is part of that, those posters and reform bill that we have passed and the very active in this agenda that we have the items that the gentlewoman talked President actually signed into law. It in the 109th Congress, the common about 100 days, 100 ways, what House is that type of legislation that has been sense Congress; and he has truly been a Republicans have done to strengthen guided through this House, through the leader as we have looked at many of America. The death tax, the other side support of our membership, and cer- the taxation issues, as well as many of of the aisle earlier this evening said tainly at the direction of our Speaker the health care issues in this great Na- that tax cuts hurt Americans. I was and our leadership. tion. dumbfounded when I heard that. Tax Mr. Speaker, we have a daunting Mr. PRICE of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I cuts hurt Americans. Do my colleagues task ahead of us in approaching the thank the gentlewoman from Ten- know that the death tax itself costs

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:05 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00072 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.142 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4877 the American economy up to 250,000 a tax when you earn your income; you an accurate picture of the work that is jobs annually? By permanently repeal- pay a tax when you maintain that being done in the 109th Congress. ing the death tax, we would add more asset; and then you die and you go and So far we have seen several signifi- than 100,000 jobs each year. Nearly 60 you pay it again. I talk a lot about cant pieces of legislation passed with percent of business owners say that sweat equity. Being a small overwhelming bipartisan support. We they would add jobs over the coming businessperson, when somebody goes in have watched as a significant number year if death taxes were permanently there and they have that bright idea of Democrats have broken ranks to and completely eliminated. and they start that business and they support business and family-friendly What does the death tax do? Well, it put years and years and years into legislation. is the leading cause of the dissolution building that business and building b 1945 of thousands of family-run small busi- that customer base, they want to be nesses. Small businesses owned by fam- able to with pride give that to their So what have we been spending our ilies, the death tax comes at the end children and their grandchildren, for time on? For starters, we have given a when somebody dies who is the senior that to be their livelihood, to continue helping hand to small businesses by in the family, and what happens is that that legacy. passing class action reform, a perma- that death tax is instituted, and they I look forward to our being able to nent repeal to the death tax, and a have to sell that family business in put an end to such an egregious tax, comprehensive energy policy, all of order to pay that death tax. It penal- and I thank the gentleman for his lead- which contribute to the overall good izes work. It penalizes savings. It deals ership on that issue; and I yield to the health of our economy. an incredible death blow to small busi- gentleman from Georgia (Mr. PRICE). More importantly, these measures nesses. Mr. PRICE of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I will help create jobs. Americans want Get this statistic: more than 70 per- thank the gentlewoman ever so much. to work. Americans want to earn a cent of family businesses do not sur- I appreciate that. I always thought it paycheck and want to feel like they vive the second generation. Eighty- was two bites at the apple, but she is have contributed to our part of the seven percent do not make it to the right. It is three bites that the govern- world. third generation. Why is that? How ment takes. That is unjust and unfair. We in Congress can help Americans much does that death tax take? You I just wanted to come and add a little do that by continuing to support and talk about 15 percent taxes here is perspective of what I believe is the op- pass legislation that creates jobs. Con- high, and 20 percent there, and the in- timism that this Congress is leading sider this: the energy policy will create come tax has a rate that is higher than with, this Republican leadership and 40,000 new construction jobs by build- that; but what does the death tax take? this Republican majority is leading ing about 27 large clean-coal plants. Forty-seven percent. Forty-seven per- with. I appreciate the gentlewoman That will benefit the Commonwealth of cent. It is no wonder that 70 percent of doing this this evening and giving us Kentucky and the Ohio Valley, work- small businesses do not survive to the an opportunity to show the American ers, suppliers, and also manufacturers next generation. people and talk with the American peo- and energy producers. So the death tax is unfair. It is un- ple about the positive things that this It will create 12,000 full-time perma- just. It hampers economic growth. It Congress is doing, and I thank her very nent jobs related to plant operations, increases the cost of capital. It artifi- much. and the legislation allows for increased cially elevates interest rates, and this Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Speaker, I natural gas exploration and develop- is another astounding fact: it probably thank the gentleman from Georgia ment that will create jobs and provide costs the government and taxpayers (Mr. PRICE) for his comments, and he is more than $500 million in increased more to collect the tax than the tax so right. There is a spirit of optimism revenue for our economy. The com- revenue that is gotten. That is the in America; and we see that in our dis- prehensive energy policy passed with kind of nonsense that Americans are tricts, folks that are growing new busi- the support of 41 Democrats who be- tired of. nesses, folks that are working, getting lieve more in creating jobs and estab- So what did our Congress do, led by lishing an energy policy than playing Republicans and joined by some com- new skills, training for new jobs; and we appreciate that about them. We petty politics. monsense Democrats? What did our Re- Let us also consider the permanent publican leadership and our Republican love seeing that in our districts, and repeal of the death tax which passed House do? We passed a bill to repeal we like seeing that optimism, and cer- with the support of 42 Members of the permanently the death tax. I could not tainly here on Capitol Hill we are en- Democratic Party. They voted to allow be more proud to serve with men and couraged when we hear from our con- small businesses and family farmers to women who act on this issue and other stituents that they are excited about keep jobs and our dollars in commu- issues in such a responsible way. some of the legislation that we are I am here to tell my colleagues that passing here, whether it is with bank- nities, rather than sending them to bu- it is a positive thing that this Congress ruptcy reform or the REAL ID Act, reaucrats in Washington, D.C. is doing, that this Republican leader- taking steps to secure those borders, There is the highway bill that will ship is doing, and that this Republican reducing taxes, supporting our troops. create more than 47,000 new jobs for majority is doing; and we ought to be A gentleman who knows quite a bit every $1 billion invested in our coun- excited about where we are as Ameri- about supporting those troops is the try’s transportation system. Not only cans about the leadership that we have. gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. DAVIS) does this create jobs, but it increases Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Speaker, re- with his military background. He is road safety so that our families and ev- claiming my time, I am certain that in new to us this year here in Congress, eryone else who travels them can be as- the gentleman’s district in Georgia, and we welcome him, and we welcome sured of a safer ride. And 198 Demo- just like in my mine in Tennessee, he his energy and his willingness to work crats supported this legislation. The has many family farmers. In our dis- on the great agenda that we have es- minority leader did not, despite the trict in Tennessee, small business is tablished in this 109th Congress. fact that that bill alone will lay a tre- the number one employer; and when I Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman mendous foundation for future growth meet in my district with many of our from Kentucky (Mr. DAVIS). and future economic development farmers, with many of our small busi- Mr. DAVIS of Kentucky. Mr. Speak- throughout this land. ness owners, this is one of those issues, er, I thank the gentlewoman from Ten- Mr. Speaker, 71 Members of the a permanent repeal of the death tax, nessee for yielding. Democratic Party joined with us to this is something that they want to be I believe that we have much to be pass the Gang Deterrence and Protec- certain gets signed into law. They are pleased about; and contrary to the ob- tion Act of 2005, again without the so supportive of the President and stinate obstructionism of the far left, strength or support of their leadership. what he is doing there, and they want much is being done. There is a lot of Gangs are increasingly becoming a to be certain we get rid of that. talk about how Republicans and Demo- problem in nearly every community in We look at it as a triple tax. You pay crats cannot seem to agree on any- the Nation, and we are starting to hear tax when you acquire an asset; you pay thing, and I do not think that portrays disturbing whispers about gangs that

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:05 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00073 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.144 H21PT1 H4878 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 regularly bring illegal immigrants into Let us focus on moral security and the health plans, is a commonsense reform this country to boost their gang mem- obligation we have for health care in that, once again, we are leading the bership and may be teaming up with this great Nation. One of the leaders in way on. terror cells to smuggle in terrorists. this debate here in this Congress is the I hope that our colleagues on the This is a serious threat to our national gentleman from New Hampshire (Mr. other side of the aisle, and there are security that we must address. BRADLEY), and he is going to talk some that support this because it is a But what can we expect from our about health care and some of the great idea, it will give small businesses Democratic leadership that continues items we have been able to accomplish the same buying power that large cor- to insult and denigrate our troops and on our health care agenda. porations have so they will get better the mission of our military, those who Mr. BRADLEY of New Hampshire. discounts in health care. It will allow serve on the front lines? So we con- Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to join them to spread out the risk of expen- tinue to be joined by rank-and-file with the gentlewoman from Tennessee sive treatments and to spread out high Democrats, like the 54 Members who (Mrs. BLACKBURN) to talk about an administrative costs, all things that helped us pass the Child Interstate agenda that helps get Americans back small businesses endure. I hope that we Abortion Notification Act, the 42 Mem- to work, that wins the war on ter- are able to pass this here in the House bers who helped us pass the Border Se- rorism and makes our Nation secure, and the Senate to enact this reform. curity Act, and the 122 Democrats who and an agenda that focuses on afford- A couple of things that we have done helped us pass the Continuity in Con- able and accessible health care for all. in the 108th Congress, and we need to gress Act. Like the gentlewoman, I go home Moreover, 143 Democrats joined with look at that because one of the big every weekend and I do town hall things that we have done is going to us to support our troops at the tip of meetings. I am going to do my 100th the spear, fighting the war on terror to take effect on January 1, 2006, and that town hall meeting this weekend since I is a Medicare drug benefit for senior protect our Nation and keep our com- have been a Member of Congress. One munities and our homeland safe. They citizens. It is long overdue for senior of the things that keeps coming up is citizens, especially those who are lower made sure that they ensured our troops the cost of health care and what can we have the resources and tools they need income, who are facing the cost of high do to further that agenda. prescription medicines, to have access to fight and win this war on terror. There are a lot of things that we can through Medicare to prescription drugs Contrary to what the liberal media do and have voted on in the past and so they can live healthier, more inde- implies, there is strong bipartisan will vote on in the future. It starts pendent, longer lives. This was a re- work in Congress; and there is a lot with the fact that doctors with high li- form that was adopted in the 108th being accomplished. It is just too bad ability costs are being driven out of the Congress and will be implemented on that the Democratic leadership con- practice of medicine because of those January 1, 2006. tinues being obstinate and obstructive soaring liability costs. We need to con- As part of that legislation, we also when there is so much at stake for our front that. We have done that on our allow families and businesses, if they future, our continuing economic well- side of the aisle and will continue to do choose to match contributions of fami- being, the security of our homeland, that. Some reasonable limits on pain lies, to create health savings accounts, and the security and jobs of ordinary and suffering awards, which some and to do so up to an amount of $5,000 Americans who depend upon us to pass States have enacted and have seen for a family of tax-free dollars that commonsense, reasonable legislation. medical liability costs come down and As a joint team, we are doing our they can actually use to purchase their stabilize. part and we are getting some great In my State of New Hampshire, we own health insurance. help teaming with rank-and-file Demo- have seen higher-risk specialty doc- So this is a reform that we both crats. It is too bad the liberal minority tors, obstetricians, gynecologists, trau- know is something that will allow peo- leader does not want to join her own ma doctors, surgeons, actually have to ple to be wiser consumers of health colleagues who did the right thing in relinquish or curtail their practice be- care because it is their money that is passing helpful and progressive legisla- cause of soaring liability costs. What going for either the purchase of health tion. does that mean? It means people that care or the purchase of higher deduct- Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Speaker, I ible health insurance. thank the gentleman for taking the need medical care may not be able to get it from the doctor of their choice, These are reforms, the Medicare drug time to share his thoughts tonight. benefit and health savings accounts, The gentleman is so right: it is fam- or they have to travel further, or it is that we have accomplished in the last ily friendly, it is business friendly. simply not available in certain regions session of Congress. It is my hope that That is the agenda that this leadership of my State. This is a national issue, we will be able to push this agenda for- has. It is an agenda that is based on and we need to get this on our agenda. ward, this positive agenda, so we have hope. It is an agenda that is based on This is something that we voted on on lower liability costs for doctors and we the love of opportunity and knowing our side of the aisle and supported, and that we all want something better for I hope that the other side of the aisle allow small businesses to pool together our children, for our grandchildren. We will join in this commonsense reform to purchase health care in collective all want to see America be vital and vi- to make sure that doctors stay in busi- units. brant with a great economy and oppor- ness. Now one last thing that has enjoyed tunity for all of our children. There are other things that we can bipartisan support and the President As the gentleman was speaking, I do. Small businesses have so many em- deserves a great deal of credit for, thought about a great Tennessean, ployees, and they constitute about 70 those are community health centers. I Alex Hailey, and a comment he used to percent of the new jobs; but for many have one in my district that recently make regularly. He was a wonderful small businesses they are also where, got Federal funds that is going to ex- author, and we are so proud of the unfortunately, a number of Americans pand its operation, nearly double its works he created. He had a phrase that cannot afford health insurance through square footage. Community health cen- he would use often. It was ‘‘find the their business, the business owners, ters are alternatives to more expensive good and praise it.’’ In this 109th Con- that represents a significant number of hospitalization. And they give people gress, the agenda that we have brought the uninsured people in our country. of lower income or people who need forward has a whole lot of good in it. It So allowing small businesses the same preventive care, primary care, better is wonderful to take a few moments on opportunities that large corporations access to health care facilities. We this first day of summer, on this 169th have, to pool together and to do so have dramatically increased the fund- calendar day of the year, the 67th day across State lines, to join through bona ing for community health centers over of this 109th Congress, and praise the fide business organizations, whether it the last several years from about $1.1 good work that is being done on this is chambers of commerce, or like-mind- billion when President Bush became floor. ed business groups around the country, President to this budget, the Labor- We have talked a lot about our eco- to be able to purchase health insurance HHS budget, to about $1.83 billion. This nomic security and homeland security. through what are known as associated will enable more of these community

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:05 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00074 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.145 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4879 health centers to be built, improve ac- I thank the gentlewoman so much for with high ideals that we try to live up cess to all Americans, but in particular organizing this hour. to as a Nation. And we are a Congress lower-income Americans. Mrs. BLACKBURN. I thank the gen- that respects those values. Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Speaker, I tleman for joining us. He is so correct But I certainly appreciate the gentle- want to go back to the poster that is in jobs and talking about jobs. We are woman from Tennessee having this right behind the one that is displayed pleased that the unemployment rate is hour so that we can discuss the solu- next to the gentleman. It is the com- at 5.1 percent. One of the points that tions that we have put forward, not monsense Congress, and the gentleman we have accomplished this year, with just as Republicans but as Americans, has touched on this several times. I bipartisan support, is the jobs training working across the aisle on a bipar- think it is worth drawing some special bill, giving the training that is nec- tisan fashion. attention to: common sense. essary, and allowing that to be Before me is a chart, Democrats Run- The legislation that the leadership accessed by individuals right there in ning to GOP Solutions. They are buy- has brought forward in this Congress, their home communities so they have ing into our agenda. They are buying the things that America supports us on the skills necessary to move forward into our agenda. Bipartisan Victories that we are hearing from them, they and to secure good jobs right there in for America Expose House Democrat are pleased with the agenda that we their communities for their families. Leadership’s Lack of Vision. We have have moved forward on, is based on Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman had five major pieces of legislation common sense. A couple of other from North Carolina (Mr. MCHENRY) pass the House with strong bipartisan things the gentleman has mentioned, for his comments and thoughts on the support that has an impact on people’s whether it is the community health agenda in his first Congress here with lives. centers or the health savings accounts this 109th Congress. Mrs. BLACKBURN. I thank the gen- or the medical liability reforms, one of Mr. MCHENRY. I certainly appre- tleman so much for his comments. I the points the gentleman just made is ciate the leadership of the gentle- think this is one of the things that we so true. woman from Tennessee here in Con- hear repeatedly from our constituents. What we are talking about is the tax- gress, and I know her constituents are They want to see us solve problems. payers’ money. The gentleman said, ‘‘It well represented by her values here. We They have appreciated how aggres- is your money.’’ That is so true. We re- are talking about the GOP agenda here sively we have attacked the agenda alize this is the taxpayers’ money. It is in the House, our conservative agenda, this year and have worked to move for- not our money. It is not government’s our agenda that has solutions, real so- ward on a positive, proactive track. money. It is the taxpayers’ money. I lutions for the American people. We Bankruptcy reform. That is some- agree so wholeheartedly with the gen- passed a conservative budget that reins thing that they have tried to pass for tleman from New Hampshire. We trust in non-defense, non-homeland security years here in Washington. For years. the individual to make those decisions discretionary spending by 1 percent. It As I was in the State Senate in Ten- on how to spend that money. We trust is a start. It is a move in the right di- nessee, we would hear about the grid- those local governments and those rection. It is the most conservative lock in Washington in not being able to wonderful community health centers. budget since Ronald Reagan was in of- move this forward. The gentleman has them in his dis- fice. However, at the same time it Class action reform. We have been trict. I have them in mine. What won- funds key priorities, like our national hearing for a decade that that was derful work they do, and how cost ef- defense, our homeland security. It needed. fective they are. The REAL ID Act. Since September It is exciting to see that we have a funds fire departments. It funds police 11, 2001, we heard about the need to se- budget where we have had a reduction officers. It does the right thing for the cure our borders and to be certain that in discretionary spending. We have a American people. We passed a good those driver’s licenses were using prop- budget where we are putting the em- budget. er documentation. phasis on priorities. We are beginning We also passed class action lawsuit Permanent repeal of the death tax. I to turn this around. Forty years of reform with bipartisan support. It reins cannot remember a time that I was not Democrat control grew program upon in trial lawyers. It reins in these out- hearing about the need to repeal this. program upon program without ac- of-control lawsuits and lawsuit abuse. A continuity of government, having a countability. Now we are beginning We passed bankruptcy reform that plan for that. There again, since Sep- over the past decade to see that ac- says you should make good on your tember 11, 2001, we have been hearing countability move in place; and with bills. We have bankruptcy reform. It the positive proactive agenda that we was bipartisan as well. of the need for this. I would just express to the gentleman have this year, we are seeing action. REAL ID, Border Security Act. Bor- Mr. BRADLEY of New Hampshire. der security, ladies and gentlemen. The that I feel it has been a very aggressive Mr. Speaker, that brings something we Republicans in this Congress have 67 session days that we have had and have to reiterate. When the tax cuts taken on this challenge and some 169 calendar days that we have seen so the gentlewoman referred to were Democrats bought in. far, and we have our list that we have passed, we had an unemployment rate Death tax repeal, eliminating the been talking through tonight of 100 of over 6 percent. Today, that unem- death tax. ways, in 100 days, that we have been ployment rate is 5.1 percent, and 3.5 A transportation bill that ensures able to pass legislation. million jobs have been created. that we have good roads in this Nation One thing I think that is important and funds priorities. to point out, also, is that not always b 2000 We also passed pro-life legislation, does it mean when we say we are pass- When we talk about making our reasonable pro-life legislation that ing legislation that we are adding an- economy more competitive so that does the right thing for minors and other law to the books. Many times Americans can compete around the does the right thing for the unborn what we are doing is repealing and tak- world, tax reform is a significant issue, child as well. We have passed good leg- ing laws off the books, repealing. We and a stimulus package that drives islation. are deregulating instead of increasing jobs is a huge issue to make sure that The American people need to know regulation. We are lowering taxes in- Americans have every opportunity, that, Mr. Speaker. The American peo- stead of increasing taxes. We are trust- anybody that wants to find a job has ple need to know that we are a Con- ing people to make the decisions they the opportunity to find a job. As I have gress that is focused on getting real re- need to make for their families. I think noted already, making health care sults for people. We are not here about that is one of the differences. more accessible and more affordable partisan rhetoric. We are not here to Mr. MCHENRY. If the gentlewoman through some of the reforms that I out- complain about the process. We all will yield, the gentlewoman outlined a lined will make our economy more know the process here in Washington, few major pieces of legislation. We had competitive and enable businesses to D.C. is not what it should be. That is 73 Democrats vote with our Repub- better afford health care for employees the way it has been for over 200 years licans for bankruptcy reform. The lead- and our Nation to grow. in this Nation. But we are a free people er on the left voted no.

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I am here to talk about a new voted yes. Their leader voted no. We are seeing capital investment in- caucus that is named Out of Iraq Cau- Continuity of government, bipartisan crease and jobs growth take place. cus. I am here to talk about the men support for this, included 122 Demo- For States like my State, Tennessee, and women of this House who have de- crats voting for it. They thought it was and others that do not have a State in- cided they can be silent no longer. I am the right thing to do. Their leader come tax, we have passed a bill restor- here to talk about men and women who voted no. ing the Federal sales tax deduction. In represent various points of view rel- The agenda on the left is all about my State in Tennessee, that is putting ative to support for the President from no. No action, no results, no ideas. And hundreds of millions of dollars back the time that he first announced he we on the right, we the Republican ma- into our State economy. It is a great was going into Iraq to now. I am here jority, are acting. We are moving for- thing. It is a great thing for Main to talk about why we have formed this ward. We are trying to do what is right Street. We know that it is the right caucus, what we plan to do, but more for all Americans, not just say no. thing to do, to be sure those dollars than that this evening, we are going to Mrs. BLACKBURN. We have a news- stay at home. The last thing we need focus on our soldiers and those who are paper here in Washington, D.C. It is to do is to take more out of somebody’s in Iraq serving this country, those who called The Hill. Today there was an ar- paycheck, more out of their pocket- are there in harm’s way, those who ticle, Progressives to Unveil Their Core book, and turn around and send it here have been killed in Iraq, those who are Principles. The article talks about how to Washington, D.C. to try to decide up at Walter Reed Hospital suffering some of the liberal Members in the how we are going to send it back. from serious injuries, having lost House felt sidelined, and I am quoting, Leave it at home. limbs, having lost their eyesight, those ‘‘felt sidelined as more centrist Demo- The tax relief for individuals and for who do not know what the future holds crats have chosen to side with Repub- small businesses has paid off. We start- for them. lican leadership on several issues.’’ ed with a recession in 2001 and now we b 2015 I would suggest to the gentleman are entering the 25th month of steady that the reason so many Members of jobs growth. Twenty-five months. We are going to focus on that this this body do talk with us, side with us, Since May 2003, this economy, not the evening because it is extremely impor- work with us, vote with us to pass this government, not Washington, D.C., but tant for the families of these soldiers legislation, is because it is what Amer- this wonderful free enterprise system to know and understand that we sup- ica wants to see happen. It is what in this great Nation has created nearly port these soldiers. We know that their expectation is and the legislation 5 million new jobs. The reason we see many of them went there because they they want to see. this jobs growth is not because govern- were called to duty. They were re- Mr. MCHENRY. That is a wonderful ment is creating jobs, it is because this cruited to go to Iraq because their way you put that. We are trying to leadership in this Congress, in this ad- President asked them to do so, and take a consensus agenda on what the ministration, understands create the they wanted to serve this country de- American people need and want and right environment and get out of the spite the fact they did not understand the direction this country wants to way. Let the free enterprise system do all of the reasons why. Many of them continue heading. And that is more what they do best, which is create jobs. went to serve because they thought local control, individual ownership and Over the past couple of years, 25 that Saddam Hussein was responsible responsibility, keeping more of what months, an average of 146,000 jobs a for 9/11. But, of course, we know now they earn to help their families, help month. We have got historically low that Saddam Hussein was not respon- their communities, help raise their unemployment and we have got steady sible for 9/11, and many of the soldiers children and improve small businesses growth. know that now. around this country. We have led on tax relief. We have So this caucus has been formed. We I certainly appreciate the gentle- led on the effort to eliminate waste, have 61 members, and they are still woman from Tennessee taking the time fraud, and abuse in government and on adding on. We met this morning at 10 to be here tonight to discuss our agen- the effort to cut Federal spending. We a.m., and we will continue to meet as da, not a Republican agenda but an passed a budget, despite outcry from we develop our mission statement, as agenda for America, to do the right the left, that allowed a .8 percent, we help to define who we are. thing for all American people. That is nearly a full percent cut in budget au- Basically, we have come together to what we are trying to do. My constitu- thority in non-defense, non-homeland say we want out of Iraq. We want out, ents back home in western North Caro- security spending. and this caucus is not putting a time lina certainly have those same ideals An issue I know my constituents care certain. This caucus has not concocted in mind. I am sure yours do as well deeply about is the growing problem of demands about how we want to get out. there in Tennessee. I thank the gentle- illegal immigration. We have taken a We simply want our young people out woman for hosting this hour. strong stance on this issue and have of Iraq. So we will provide support to Mrs. BLACKBURN. I thank the gen- made a terrific start with passage of other Members of Congress, other cau- tleman so much for being here this the REAL ID Act. We are funding more cuses who want to get out of Iraq. We evening. I think one of the things that border agents. Our list goes on and on, will provide support to the citizens of we have seen is that so many Members 100 ways, in 100 days. this Nation, the organized national of this House have supported tax relief Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the oppor- groups who want to get out of Iraq. for every taxpayer. They know that tunity to be here to visit with my col- We will organize not only coming to this majority has supported tax relief leagues tonight. We look forward to the floor as we are this evening to talk for every single taxpayer, not for just a continuing the conversation and to about various aspects of this war. We few. And, true, we have targeted that continuing to work on a positive, pro- will also organize workshops and semi- relief to those at the lower end of the gressive, proactive agenda for America. nars. We will travel, some of us, to dif- earning scale and that is an important f ferent regions in this country, respond- thing to do. ing to citizens who are asking for Mem- In the past few years, we have also ANNOUNCING FORMATION OF OUT bers of Congress to come and explain reduced income tax rates across the OF IRAQ CAUCUS this public policy to them. We will be board. We have eliminated that death The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. available to meet with the families of tax. We hope that the Senate works FITZPATRICK). Under the Speaker’s an- servicemembers who have been killed,

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:05 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00076 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.148 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4881 who have been injured. We have fami- great television shows, and I was My first responsibility is to their safe- lies who are asking to meet with some- watching George Stephanopoulos as he ty. My first responsibility is to their body, anybody. We have people who are interviewed the Secretary of State, well-being. My first responsibility is to asking to meet with Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice. And he interviewed acknowledge them and their families who cannot get any response, who are her. They talked about, of course, the and their parents. And my responsi- not being talked to. We are going to work that she is doing in the Middle bility, as a public policymaker, is to meet with them. We are going to talk East, working with the issue of Israel, tell the truth. We all know now there with them. We are going to share with the Palestinians. were no weapons of mass destruction. them what we know. But then he segued to the war in We cannot tell these young people why But more than that, we are going to Iraq. And he said to Condoleezza Rice, they are really there. We cannot tell be an ear to family members who need ‘‘As you know, there has been a lot of them that there is an exit strategy. We to talk with someone about why their talk back here in the United States cannot tell them why many of their son or daughter died in Iraq. We are about these Downing Street memos, friends that they met in this war died going to spend the time and give them the minutes of a meeting with Prime in vehicles that had no armor. We can- some attention because we think that Minister Tony Blair in the spring of not tell them why they died up in the least that we can do is sit and talk 2002 where they discuss their meetings Fallujah. We cannot tell them why and listen to family members. with the United States.’’ And then he they died in Operation Lightning. We Some of them will say that they are said, ‘‘I want to show you what one cannot tell them what they are doing very proud that their child or their son mother, Cindy Sheehan, the mother of in Operation Spear. or their relative served in this war, and a U.S. soldier, had to say about that We hear all of these fancy, concocted we will commend them for the pride memo this week.’’ And then they names for the operations, but what we that they feel and the fact that their showed Cindy Sheehan, mother. She do not hear is the definition of why relative, their child, their brother, said this: ‘‘The so-called Downing they are doing what they are doing. their father served. Some will say that Street memo dated the 23rd of July, Are they simply being organized into ‘‘I once support the war but I no longer 2002, only confirms what I already sus- these special operations to try to send support it.’’ We will listen to them, and pected. The leadership of this country a signal to the American people that we will hear what they have to say. rushed us into an illegal invasion of an- they are really in charge? What are And we will explain to them how we other sovereign country on prefab- they to do when they go into these bat- feel at this time about getting out of ricated and cherry-picked intel- tles and into these special operations? Iraq. ligence.’’ Are they to shoot whatever moves? And so this is a caucus that will have And then George Stephanopoulos We know that, yes, thousands of the ability to extend itself not only to said to the Secretary of State, Iraqis have died because we have young the organized groups and organizations Condoleezza Rice, ‘‘How do you respond people in these special operations, Op- but again to the family members. to this, to what Mrs. Sheehan said? eration Lightning, Operation Spear, I would like to point out something How do you respond to that?’’ operation this, operation that, who about this war. We have heard many of Condoleezza Rice started out with her were told to shoot anything that the statistics and much of the data explanation. She started out by saying, moves. Many of them cannot live with over and over again. But we have to re- ‘‘Well, I can only say what the Presi- the psychological damage that is fos- mind folks we have been there now dent has said many, many times. The tered upon them because they are shooting and they are killing and they since March 19, 2003. We have 1,722 sol- United States of America and its coali- do not have all of the answers. diers who have died in this war, and tion decided that it was finally time to the numbers mount each day. The So today we focus on our soldiers, deal with the threat of Saddam Hus- and we say to Cindy Sheehan we are number of soldiers injured: 13,074. We sein.’’ And she went on with the typical sorry about the loss of her son and we have many Members of Congress from kind of discussion and explanation in thank her for caring enough to ask the both sides of the aisle who are going up line with the message that is given by questions, to be involved. We are try- to Walter Reed Hospital to see the sol- this administration. Along the way, ing to get public policymakers to do diers there who are injured, and the she said, ‘‘When you consider what the the right thing. So tonight, as we fur- stories that we hear coming back from Iraqi people had gone through in the ther announce the Out of Iraq Caucus those visits break one’s heart. These Saddam Hussein regime’s reign, what and the Members who have signed up are stories of young men and women about the responsibility to the Iraqi to do the work of providing the plat- who had hopes and dreams. Many of people?’’ form of creating the voice for those them went to war because they had no I was struck by this conversation be- who want to speak out, we focus to- jobs. They did not know what the fu- cause not one time did the Secretary of night on our soldiers in Iraq. Our pray- ture held for them, and they thought, State, Condoleezza Rice, acknowledge ers go out to them. We want them to be Perhaps if I go and serve my country Cindy Sheehan, who had been on the returned home. We want them to real- and get an income, perhaps I can do screen with the question that was ize their dreams and their hopes and good. I can not only serve my country, raised by George Stephanopoulos. Not their aspirations. but perhaps I can get ahead. Perhaps I once on Father’s Day did she say, we I yield to the gentlewoman from can learn a trade. Perhaps I can learn are sorry your son died, we feel your California (Ms. WOOLSEY), who has something. Perhaps I can exploit some pain, we understand how you must feel. been on this floor night after night of my talents and show what I can do. Not once did she recognize her. Not talking about these issues, the gentle- But when I come home, I want to go once did she recognize the death of her woman from California that basically back to school. I want to go to college. son. Not once did she show any sym- said we want out of Iraq; administra- I want to get married. I want to have pathy. But oftentimes we hear from tion, tell us how you are going to do it. children. I want to contribute to my this administration how much they Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank community. care about the soldiers. the gentlewoman from California for Well, unfortunately, these 1,722 will Well, the Out of Iraq Caucus is going starting tonight’s dialogue. never be able to realize their hopes and to show not only do we want them out It is true. I have been on the House their dreams. They have died. But the of Iraq but we care about them. We will floor, I think, 79 times, maybe 80 in the question still remains for many of us, never fail to acknowledge a mother last year for 5 minutes after the end of Why are we in Iraq? What is the real who is in deep pain about the loss of our workday, of our congressional day. story? We know now there are no weap- her son. Not ever will we be on na- And my message has been we need to ons of mass destruction. Why are these tional TV and not take a moment to figure out how to bring our troops young people dying? say we too care about our soldiers. No. home. Never in that message have I I want to relate an interview that I This conversation basically focused on said it is the troops’ fault that we are watched on television this past Sun- our responsibility to the Iraqi people. there and that they are to be criticized. day. This past Sunday, as many folks My first responsibility is to Ameri- We are not going to pick on the war- in America do, I watched some of the cans and to those American soldiers. riors. We are not going to blame them

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:05 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00077 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.150 H21PT1 H4882 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 because their leadership, their admin- cizing the war, how we got into it, how they were voting for was the fact that istration, sent them there to do a job badly it has been managed, and why they wanted their country back in con- that was not necessary. there is absolutely no plan on how to trol by the Iraqis, not by the United The death of over 1,700 of our troops bring our troops home. States military. As soon as we do this, does not say to me that to honor those The American people have stated we can start working with them, and deaths we need to send more troops, we loud and clear, and their numbers are we can work with the international need to have more death. increasing also; the more they see what world, get them all involved, so we can is happening to their neighbor, a friend b 2030 be doing the right thing for Iraq and of their son or their daughter, they are the Iraqi people who are also being de- I do not think that honors those who realizing that, oh, my, it can happen to stroyed by this war. have died. I think that, in fact, it is a any single one of these young people So I thank the gentlewoman for let- shame that we would even think of that we send overseas for a war that ting me be a part of this. My colleagues sending another young person, male, was not necessary in the first place. will hear more from us. We have a lot female, another older person, our Na- The only way to end this death and de- of ideas, but our major idea is two tional Guard, our Reservists, into an struction that occurs every single day words, ‘‘troops home,’’ in honor of area that we did not need to be in in is to start the process of bringing our those young men and young women the first place. There is no excuse for troops home. Clearly, the American and the Reservists and the National the United States to have started a war people are way ahead of Congress on Guard who are doing something that in Iraq. this issue. they were told they must do; and they Mr. Speaker, our Constitution states Unfortunately, the President of the are serving their country the best that that Members of Congress must be cho- United States is way behind on the they can, but they are getting very sen by the people of the United States issue of Iraq. We have asked the Presi- poor guidance from the leaders of this and that Congress must represent the dent to come up with a plan for ending country. people of the United States. That the war. He has not. He has no plan for Ms. WATERS. Mr. Speaker, I would means that we as Members, Members of victory, except to leave our troops in like to thank the gentlewoman from Congress, need to act and listen to the harm’s way as targets for a furious in- California (Ms. WOOLSEY), not only for people when they speak. Well, I have surgency who look at our sons and being here this evening, but for all of been speaking for 80 days, every time daughters as occupiers. What, then, the work, all of the hours, all of the we are in session, for 5 minutes, but should Members of Congress do? time that she has put into this effort. now the American people are speaking. Well, I have been working hard on I now yield time to the gentlewoman They have spoken. this, as the gentlewoman from Cali- from California (Ms. LEE), who too has The latest Gallup poll released last fornia told us. For one thing, I came up been a leader in opposing this war. She week indicates that the American peo- with a plan in January when I intro- warned us early on that we should not ple are ready for our military in Iraq to duced legislation that is H. Con. Res. just give permission to the President of start coming home. They are saying, 35, calling for the President to begin the United States to go to war without bring our troops home. They say this, bringing our troops home. Thirty-five understanding what the reasons were and some actually supported the war at Members of Congress support this leg- and without having that debate. So, the beginning, but now, like the three islation. And then we continued this ef- unfortunately, our debate is taking of us up here, they want to honor our fort on May 25 by introducing an place a little bit late, but it is taking troops, they want to honor the families amendment to the defense authoriza- place. of our troops, they want to bring them tion bill calling on the President to do I would like to thank the gentle- home safe and whole. this simple thing: Create a plan for woman from northern California, the When I say whole, I know what I am Iraq and bring his plan to the appro- Oakland area, (Ms. LEE), for all of her talking about. Two years ago, I had priate House committee. Mr. Speaker, work and for being here this evening. major, major back surgery at the Be- 128 Members of Congress, including five Ms. LEE. Mr. Speaker, I want to thesda Naval Hospital. And when I was Republicans and one Independent, thank the gentlewoman from Cali- able to walk, I walked the halls and voted in favor of this sensible amend- fornia (Ms. WATERS) for her leadership visited the troops that had come home ment. and for really seeing the wisdom and then. It was August 2 years ago, so It is clear that the United States knowing that this is a defining mo- they were just beginning to come home must develop a plan to bring our troops ment to bring us all together in our from Iraq. I want to tell my colleagues, home. That is the only fair thing to do Out of Iraq Caucus. we are not talking about people that for the people of this country but, most The gentlewoman from California are hardly wounded at all, we are talk- importantly, for the troops. They de- (Ms. WATERS) has recognized the fact ing about young people who have vir- serve to know when they get to come that there were those who voted for the tually been destroyed physically. Their home, and their families deserve it war and those who voted against the minds are there, though. They know equally. war, but we know what is going on what happened. But we are doing such I have loved being up here with my with our young men and women now, a disservice to them if we send more colleagues. I am proud to be a member and so the gentlewoman decided to young people, more troops in an area of the Out of Iraq Task Force in the bring us all together to try to help us where they too are going to get injured House of Representatives. It is not that figure out how to get out of this mess. or killed. we want to run away from anything; I think the country owes the gentle- Nearly 60 percent of Americans be- we certainly believe that when the woman a debt of gratitude. lieve that the United States should United States pulls our troops home, Also, to the gentlewoman from Cali- bring home some or all of our troops that we do have a responsibility and we fornia (Ms. WOOLSEY), I just want to from Iraq, and the Gallup poll tells us must be working with the Iraqis to say to her, sometimes she is the lone that only 36 percent of Americans sup- help them with their failing economic voice in the wilderness. Sooner or port maintaining our current troop and physical infrastructure. We know later, though, if you call it the way it level in Iraq. Only 36 percent. This is that we can help them with that, but is and stick with your principles and the lowest level of support for the war we know we cannot do it while we are stick with what you believe is right, since it began in March 2003, and no- in the midst of destroying their cities people will hear you; the country will body is saying we do not support our at the same time we are trying to put hear and the world will hear, and I troops. They know these statistics are them back together. First, we bring think that is what we are seeing now. all about bringing them home because our troops home, then we work with So I just want to thank her for her we do support them, and we know that the Iraqi government and we help them leadership as well. when they come home they will be put their country back together. Mr. Speaker, so often we get caught safe. It is absolute in these numbers We are also proud of the Iraqi citi- up in the rhetoric of our positions and that Americans are not criticizing the zens who went to the polls and voted, what we believe, and oftentimes forget troops, the warriors; they are criti- but we are also very clear that what about the human face and the toll of

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But ing in the international community to ing their lives, when Secretary of State as the gentlewoman from California stabilize Iraq, and this means the Condoleezza Rice did not acknowledge (Ms. WOOLSEY) said, we need to first international community in a real the sacrifices and the pain that a cou- begin to develop a plan to get our way. rageous mother, Cindy Sheehan, must young men and women and bring them And we need to make sure that the be feeling. home, get them out of harm’s way, be- administration says to the American As the daughter of a veteran of two cause they are the targets of the insur- people that there will be no permanent wars, I feel this, and I understand this, gency. I do not believe there is going to bases in Iraq. Because, if we do that, and I think that our administration, be any stability as long as the Iraqi we are going to be up to trillions of whether they have children in Iraq or people believe and see that their coun- dollars in terms of this war. And I hate not, I think that they should stand up try is occupied by U.S. forces. So we to see that happen, because here we for these young men and women and are putting them and keeping them in have people who are homeless, we have feel their pain and try to help figure harm’s way. young kids who need a decent edu- out how to first say, I am sorry; and So we need to bring them home, and cation, and we need affordable housing, secondly, say, let us begin to figure out we need to figure out a plan to do that we need a universal health care sys- how we develop a plan and begin to as soon as possible. tem. bring our young men and women out of Also, let me just say that in the And we need to take care of some do- harm’s way. Committee on International Relations, mestic needs. With the war going on Mr. Speaker, that is how we really a committee upon which I serve, we like this and with billions and billions support our troops. Empty rhetoric had authorized or reauthorized the of dollars being spent, especially if we does not work when young men and State Department Reauthorization Act intend to have permanent bases, we women are dying. a couple of weeks ago. So I tried to will never meet our domestic needs and So let me just say, I visited the offer an amendment for withdrawal, the responsibility that we owe to our troops, I guess it was probably a couple and I think there were 12 or 13 votes for American citizens. of years ago at Walter Reed Hospital. that. But then I decided that since the So I thank the gentlewoman from This is the untold story of this war. President and since Secretary Rice California (Ms. WATERS) for her leader- There are thousands of our kids who continued to say that we do not want ship and for making sure that all of us will be disabled for life, thousands of to permanently occupy Iraq, we do not come to this floor and call it like it is our young men and women who lost want permanent bases, I said, well, let and tell the truth, and begin to beat their limbs, who cannot see, their faces me do an amendment to the State De- that drum and begin to wake up Amer- have been blown off. It has been a fi- partment authorization bill and all it ica so that we can save our kids from nancial difficulty; they have come would say is we just do not intend to being bombed and from the suicide at- back to the lack of financial and eco- have permanent bases in Iraq. Well, I tacks and from the violence that they nomic security. Some of them are los- think, on a bipartisan vote, it got are dealing with in such an honorable ing their houses, they have lost their about 15 votes there. way. jobs, their credit cards. And we serve Mr. Speaker, I share that because we These kids are courageous, they de- on the Committee on Financial Serv- hear the administration saying, no per- serve our support, and they deserve our ices and we know how the credit card manent presence, no permanent bases; support in a real way. And that means companies are messing with them in yet we see just the opposite in terms of our support by insisting that they terms of their debt and the bankruptcy funding and appropriations and begin- come home so they can be with their issues. ning to create this scenario to build families and get the type of care that They come back and, upon their re- permanent bases. So we have to ask they need. turn, they see that they have very lit- the question: What is really going on? Ms. WATERS. I thank the gentle- tle in terms of veterans benefits. They woman from California (Ms. LEE). We 2045 have long lines they have to wait in. b appreciate so very much the work that The mental health services are almost We know that the administration she has been doing and her wisdom and nonexistent. We know what post-trau- misled the American people and the early warnings about this war. matic stress syndrome is. Our young world that there were no weapons of Next, I would like to call on the Con- men and women need mental health mass destruction in Iraq. We knew that gressman from New York (Mr. RAN- services like they have never needed it then. Now, I think the Downing Street GEL), who is a veteran who knows a lot before. Yet, we cannot get legislation memo and the other facts are coming about war because he served. nor funding to provide this kind of care out so that the public will understand He is a gentleman who has been un- for our kids, and I think that is a what we said then, we knew that there settled about this war for months. And shame and a disgrace. was no connection between Saddam he has taken many opportunities to Mr. Speaker, I went to a funeral of a Hussein and al Qaeda and 9/11 and Iraq. ask what we are doing. When are we young man who was killed in my dis- We knew that then, but now, thank going to have a discussion? When are trict in the war, and it was unbeliev- God for the gentleman from Michigan we going to speak out? When are we able. This young man was a proud sol- (Mr. CONYERS) and the hearings that we going to have hearings? What is going dier, and I was so proud of him, because are holding. We are beginning to edu- on with this? he was determined that he was going to cate the American people so that they Well, Mr. Speaker, I want to thank go and serve our country and wave the know what we knew. And I think peo- him for raising those questions. I want- flag and make sure that democracy ple are listening, people are beginning ed to thank him for being a part of prevailed in Iraq, and he honorably to say was this worth it? Was this what we are attempting to do with the died, and it was very sad. But his fam- worth it? Was this worth over 1,700 of Out of Iraq Caucus. And I welcome him ily told me that while they may not our young people being killed, count- this evening to this discussion. have agreed with what he wanted to do less number of Iraqi civilians being Mr. RANGEL. Mr. Speaker, I just in terms of going into the military, killed, $300 billion-plus, and I think De- want people to know that the whole that they supported him going; they fense Appropriations just had another country is not run by distinguished loved him and they missed him, but $45 billion in it, that was not with my women from California. But I certainly they wanted to get more involved in vote, but to that, some voted for the do appreciate the leadership that you trying to help us figure out a way to other day, and so where does this end? have taken. God knows how much bet- ensure that no more kids are killed Where does this end? ter off our country would have been if

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:05 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00079 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.153 H21PT1 H4884 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 we had recognized the brain power that lies are being broken. People have al- I will do it because this country has we have with minority women in this ready served and being called two and been extremely good to me. country. But we have that to work on. three times. Wives are complaining, But I know one thing, that for all of I do not know where to start, because the employers have not called them the people that are talking about that there are certain people that believe since their favorite employee was twice they are supporting the war, I ask one that we are not supporting the troops called up to serve the country. Tuition question: Would you put your kids in when we are anxious that they return has not been paid. Marriages have been harm’s way to indicate your support home well to their families. broken. for this war? It seems like it is so easy, But I can say that I visited those And then you take a look at the when I was a kid for someone to pick a that have been wounded. I have the other side, the Charlie Rangels all over fight, and then when it is time to go to 369th. They call themselves the Hell the country, different colors, different fight, they said I will hold your coat. Fighters. They are a National Guard backgrounds, different languages, some That is what America is doing today. outfit. They have been to the Persian not even citizens, but spinning their Do not tell me that these young peo- Gulf. They have been to Iraq. I am al- wheels and hoping for a better way of ple want to fight, I suppose those peo- ways there when they leave. I am al- life, getting an education like I got ple being drafted do, that would be an ways there when they come home. And with the GI bill. Where do they come insult to all of the heroes and sheroes I want the gentlewoman from Cali- from? that have been drafted, or at least the fornia (Ms. WATERS) to know that they Well, just ask the Pentagon. They do men that have been drafted that de- appreciate what we are doing for them. not come from communities that chief fended this country. But the truth of What people do not understand when executive officers live in. They do not the matter is that if we have a draft, if they talk about the patriotism of our come from kids with families of those we had a draft, we would not be in Iraq fighting men and women, they are so in the White House or in the Pentagon. today. right, unlike those of us who have a re- As a matter of fact, I have talked with If we had a draft, we would not be sponsibility to participate, whether we some of the private marketers that are rattling swords in North Korea. If we are going to have peace or war for our hired by the Pentagon, and as someone had a draft, we would not be threat- great Nation, any veteran will tell you, says, they rob banks because that is ening Syria and Iran. We would go to when that flag goes up, you are in the where the money is. They fish because the international community with the military, you salute it. You do not that is where the fish are. They recruit strength of the United States of Amer- challenge the military. You do not where the hopeless are in terms of un- ica and persuade those countries that challenge the President. You do what employment. terrorism is not just an American prob- you have been trained to do, and that I asked the question, Do most of lem, it is an international problem, and is to destroy the enemy. them come from areas of high unem- with mutual respect, sit down and talk And so no matter how patriotic our ployment? Yes, that is where they re- with them to see how we can bring men and women are, and they are that, cruit. It makes sense. Now we have not peace to the Middle East. This is going to be one of a series of bringing them home to their loved ones got the retention. People are not being nights that we know how awkward it is means we are patriotic too. retained. People are not volunteering. to be against the President when the I remember when I first enlisted in You would think that if the President Nation is at war. But that is true of so the Army. I was 18 years old. I had not of the United States believes that, and many things that happen that we are finished high school. Spinning my that fighting terrorism in Iraq is in our not proud of. It is so easy not to stand wheels. Did not know which way to go. national defense, what a speech a up. It is so easy to say, I hope they Saw the uniform, saw the check, could President could gave to all of America. know what they are doing in Wash- send the check home to mom; my I could hear it now. ington. It is so easy to hope that every- brother had before me. Seemed like a If we do not bring freedom and lib- thing is going to work out okay. pretty good deal. erty to every country that seeks it, if But we have had a lot of problems in Now, no way did I know that in Au- we do not have regime change where this country because people are wait- gust of 1950 I would be sent to Korea, we do not like people, if we do not ing for someone else to do something. which I am embarrassed to admit I had bomb and invade and superimpose our And I think as our numbers grow that no idea where it was, to engage in a po- government, then our country would be we will soon make it comfortable for lice action, which did not sound too jeopardized. So what are you asking, people just to ask the question: Why bad to me, being a policeman. I went Mr. President? We are asking all of you did we go in the first place? Was there there in August of 1950 and guess what? not to allow the poor to just carry on a plan which projected for the 21st cen- The Second Infantry Division that left this fight. This is a fight for freedom tury to go to knock off Saddam Hus- Fort Washington to go there is still and liberty; you should be so proud to sein before 9/11? Did everyone that was there today. enlist. in the Cabinet that has written books, Getting into wars in countries is a So you make a plea to the poor, to Clark did, Woodward who wrote the heck of a lot easier than getting out of the middle class and to the wealthy, to book on this, did O’Neill, who was Sec- them. And so in that war, we did not the men and women of this country retary of the Treasury when they said even declare war. You know, it was a that love it. Volunteer. Instead, what that after 9/11, the President was com- police action. It was the United Na- do they say when they do not meet mitted to go after Saddam Hussein, tions. It was Truman telling us to go. their quotas? Well, the $10,000 for 3 even though there was no evidence that The majority of our outfit, they were years did not work, so we doubled it to they should go that way? either killed or captured. $20,000. Now it is $30,000. So do not You hear more about the papers from And since I had an opportunity to be worry, Mr. President, it is going to be England, the intelligence reports that exposed about education, I felt for $40,000, and we will get those kids one we have got to show that even the Brit- those who God blessed to allow to live, way or the other. ish intelligence indicated that was the that we had a special obligation not to And now we have got parents saying, route that we were going. We find now allow that to happen to other people’s do not do that to my kid. He loves us. all of the reasons that were given were kids. Here we have a situation where If I were offered $40,000 at 18 years old not true. And as you hear us over and people who have served their country off the street of Harlem, I would ask over, and listen to the priests and the and joined the Reserve have been how many years can I take? I mean, nuns and the ministers and the imams called up two and three times. Families that is a lot of money even with infla- and the rabbis recognize that all we are have been broken. I remember when I tion being what it is today. talking about is not defending our introduced my draft bill the first time, It seems to me that we should not country, we have got a new standard I got a call from Senator HOLLINGS need a draft if Americans thought we now. from South Carolina. were doing the right thing. Makes He says, you are worried about mi- sense to me. You would leave your job b 2100 norities and poor folks. You better in the Congress if you are young You do not go to war just when you start thinking of my Reservists. Fami- enough. If there is something I can do, are attacked. You do not go to war just

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It say over and over again, all they show lost their loved ones and who are get- will belong to India and Pakistan, and are these suicide bombings; they do not ting loved ones back who are totally, the moral value of the greatest democ- show the good stuff. totally wounded, both physically and racy that has ever been created would Well, I do not like hearing that be- mentally. So yes, we should do that. be shattered just because no one stood cause, again, they are relegating the Mr. RANGEL. Let me try that. Sup- up. loss of lives to some secondary status. pose they did call and the mother Well, we have seen what happened in And tonight we draw attention to the would say, Would you remind me as to history and we want to make it very importance of the soldiers, how we are why my beloved child lost his or her comfortable for you not to get involved proud of them and their families. And I life? Would they say because Saddam politically but to listen to the facts. mentioned earlier that in this inter- Hussein was a mean, evil man when we And at the end of the day, when view on Sunday with Mr. Stephan- have so many mean and evil people in Condoleeza Rice and the President are opoulos and Condoleeza Rice, even this world? Would they say that we asked, and maybe some Democrats, if though he drew her attention to Cindy wanted to show them what democracy you knew then what you know now, Sheehan, the mother who had a com- really is and they had an election? would you have committed this great ment who had been here in the Con- Would they say that we want to bring country to war? Because all you got gress trying to raise the discussion, he order to this part of the world? Would out of it is a pretty crummy election drew her attention to her and some- they say that, and we are prepared to even by Florida standards, and the fact thing she had said and Condoleeza Rice do this further, the President’s inau- that we have no clue as to where we are never acknowledged her, never said she gural address and speeches he has going to get additional troops to stay was sorry about the death of her son, given? there until they get their act together never gave any attention to the fact How would they answer about the or to train them. that this woman in pain was attempt- weapons of mass destruction if the be- So I thank the three gentlewomen ing to create this discussion. reaved asked? from California and especially, well, So tonight there is a mother who has Suppose they asked, Was this con- not especially, because all of the gen- not been answered, who has been try- nected with the attack of 9/11? What tlewomen are giants in this. And one ing to get some response from Donald would they say? Suppose they said, day, and I hope one day soon, the peo- Rumsfeld. Now, the gentleman from well, Whatever happened to Osama bin ple who held us in suspicion because we California (Mr. GEORGE MILLER) has Laden? Was he not the villain, or did 15 are standing up, and we have to thank put together a letter to Rumsfeld say- of the 19 terrorists come from Saudi God that we have constituents that ing, please talk to her. Not only has Arabia? Suppose they asked, What allow us to do it, that the least that we she been knocking down the door, mak- were you doing tip-toeing through the can say that we have done is to create ing the telephone calls, she is talking gardens at the ranch with the Crown an atmosphere where good people can about other mothers and other fami- Prince of Saudi Arabia? stand up when they know in their lies. Please talk to her. Please respond Suppose they asked, Why did the hearts that they are doing the right to her. Saudis get special treatment in leaving thing. I signed on to that letter today. We the country to go to Saudi Arabia? I do Ms. WATERS. I want to thank the are going to encourage all the members not know. Maybe, just maybe, we gentleman from New York (Mr. RAN- of the Out of Iraq Congressional Caucus should not ask a mother to get those GEL) and ask him to remain for a col- to sign on to that letter. But I would kind of answers. And just maybe, we loquy if he has a few moments with all like to ask all Members here tonight, should not have to lose a child to chal- of us here. I thank the Members for fo- do you think that we should not only lenge those type of answers. cusing our discussion tonight on our join as the Out of Iraq Caucus in ask- Ms. WATERS. Those are certainly soldiers and helping to remind people ing Donald Rumsfeld to respond to Ms. tough questions and, of course, just as that these are real human beings, as I Sheehan and perhaps other mothers Condoleeza Rice gave the framed mes- said before, with hopes and aspirations. and families, should we not have an or- sage that she always gives when she is And when they die, not only are those ganized way by which they really are speaking publicly, Saddam Hussein was hopes and aspirations gone, but the talked to, that they have an oppor- a terrible man, Saddam Hussein was a family members are left devastated tunity to even come to Washington? threat to the United States. Now, the and destroyed by these deaths, and we If we can offer $40,000 to their chil- Middle East will be better off without have got to do more to slow our sup- dren to come to Iraq, can we not help Saddam Hussein. Those are the kind of port for them. them to come to Washington and be answers I suspect that she would give. It is not their fault if they are there. recognized and talk with them, not But I think when Condoleeza Rice is on They answered the call for many rea- just in ceremony, not just one day per- national television in an interview sons, some of which the gentleman de- haps out of the year; but when they say where millions of people are watching, scribed so wonderfully well in his pres- they need some answers that they want and you have a mother who is shown on entation. Some people looking for just to know, should not we encourage Don- television raising a question and you a job, for income. Some folks looking ald Rumsfeld and Condoleeza Rice and do not even take the time to acknowl- to serve their country, to answer the this administration to be more sen- edge that mother, to say, Ms. Sheehan, call for whatever reason. And what we sitive, more sensitive? I am sorry about the loss of your son. have got to be sure about is that we do Ms. WOOLSEY. Well, I do not want Ms. LEE. I have noticed this adminis- not allow these sacrifices to be taken to be a cynic but is not Donald Rums- tration is so detached, totally detached lightly. feld the same individual who was from the impact and the ramifications For example, we hear some Members stamping his names on letters to fami- of what they have done in terms of saying, who wish to support the war, to lies when he was sending his condo- their policy, their warmaking policies. continue to support the war, saying all lences to them when their family mem- Remember, Secretary Rice was one of they show on television are the bomb- ber had died in Iraq? He needs a lot of the chief architects of this war. Per- ings, the suicide bombings. All they training on how to be compassionate. haps it is very difficult for her to real- show are the deaths and the destruc- I think it is a very good idea that we ize that being one of the chief archi- tion. They do not show the good stuff. send that letter, but I do not think we tects of this war, that Cindy Sheehan Well, I get very upset when I hear should be surprised that that is the re- lost someone that her policies were re- that, because what they are literally action that Cindy Sheehan has gotten sponsible for. saying to me is that somehow the loss from Condoleeza Rice and from Donald So I think not only should we en- of lives of our soldiers should take sec- Rumsfeld. courage Secretary Rumsfeld to meet

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Clearly, more money is (Mr. RANGEL) asked the questions that sistance to the families, that they can needed to not only train these inexperienced would be very difficult, I think, for this at least be respected enough to be troops to defeat the insurgency, but also to administration to respond to if, in fact, given the information, for somebody to pay troops to enlist in this new army despite Cindy Sheehan asked those questions. sit down and talk with them and an- the obvious danger they face. At this time of But I believe they have paid the su- swer the questions, tell the truth. They increased danger for our troops, this Amend- preme price and they deserve the Sec- may not get the truth. They may not ment reiterates the fact that we need to be retary of Defense and the Secretary of get the questions answered in the way transferring more responsibility upon the Iraqis State and all of those who crafted this they want to, but I think we are going to take care of their nation and develop a plan war, they deserve to meet with them to to have to try to work at forcing that to remove our U.S. troops. hear from them, and these parents need to happen. To this date at least 1,783 members of the that audience and that is the minimal U.S. military have died, 152 from the State of b 2115 thing that we should insist on. Texas alone, since the beginning of the Iraq Mr. RANGEL. I tell you as a lawyer I am awfully sorry that our time has war in March 2003. Since May 1, 2003, when and someone that would advise some- expired. I see two more Members just President Bush declared that major combat body, I would not ask them to ask to entered the room. The gentlewoman operations in Iraq had ended, at least 1,585 see Secretary Rumsfeld. from California (Ms. WATSON) and the U.S. military members have died. There have Members have to remember this is gentleman from New York (Mr. TOWNS) been at least 1,909 coalition deaths in Iraq, the same person that told the whole just entered the room and I know that which means that more than 93 percent of the country that he did not know whether they wanted to be part of this. coalition deaths have come from the U.S. we were winning or losing the war. Is Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, Armed Forces. This President told us that that something to tell someone? I am honored to rise tonight with my distin- there would be an international coalition going He said that it is a slog, whatever the guished colleagues in the newly formed Get in to fight the Iraq War, the truth is that it is heck that is. And he said something Out of Iraq Caucus. We stand together in this our troops and our troops alone who are on that he was so right in, that he really hallowed place to advocate for the majority of those front lines suffering mass casualties and did not know whether we were creating Americans who believe that President Bush the burden of this war. more terrorists than we were killing. must get our men and women home from Iraq. Just last month I wrote to President Bush And we can answer him, and the world It was the great politician and diplomat Adlai respectfully requesting him to rescind and re- can, because we lack the sensitive so- Stevenson who said: ‘‘Patriotism is not a short peal the Defense Department rule that bars phistication to understand that a life is and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tran- public viewing of the flag-draped coffins of fall- a life, whether it is an American, quil and steady dedication of a lifetime.’’ I en soldiers upon their arrival back to the whether it is an Iraqi, in the tens of want to thank each and every American who United States in the spirit of patriotism, honor, thousands and sometimes the hundreds believes strongly in this cause for making that and respect for the service that they have of thousands. dedication and speaking out about what you given. This overly restrictive rule contravenes I talked with Colin Powell about this believe to be wrong for our great Nation. the First, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments to the and I asked him, How do you train a I want start off by reading a very telling United States Constitution as well as the prin- young patriotic soldier to go to a for- quote: ‘‘War should be the politics of last re- ciples of due process and equal protection as eign country to kill terrorists that you sort. And when we go to war, we should have it relates to the decedents, their families, and do not know what they look like, what a purpose that our people understand and each American who wishes to honor one who uniform they wear, what language they support.’’ This quote was made by none other has fought for his or her Nation. In addition, speak, and you can only react when than former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a this rule violates the Freedom of Information you are being fired upon? Can you senior member of the Bush Cabinet leading up Act by arbitrarily narrowing the scope of mate- imagine how many terrorists we create to the war in Iraq. The truth is that this war rial that may be accessed under the law. when these cowardly people go to a was not a last resort, and it most certainly While the stated objective of this policy is to school, go to a hospital, go to a mosque does not have the full support of the American protect the privacy of the decedents’ families, and fire at our troops? And those who people. The truth is that this Administration its effect reaches unjustifiably broad and in a have served would know, you have no has continuously changed the truth about their manner repugnant to the foundations of the option except to destroy where that motives for going to war. First they said it was democracy in which we live. The American fire is coming from. And if you destroy about weapons of mass destruction, then public has been allowed to view and honor innocent people, we no longer call that when we found out the truth that there weren’t fallen soldiers of wars dating as recently as human life. You know what we call it? any in Iraq, they said the war was now about the Persian Gulf War in 1990–1991 under Collateral damage. Saddam, and today they tell us it’s about es- prior Administrations of both political parties. Ms. WATERS. Well, Cindy Sheehan tablishing democracy in Iraq. The real truth is The current policy is clearly deceitful to the has already made the inquiry. She had that this Administration has no real plan, they American people, who deserve to know the made calls. She has written the letter had no plan before going to war, they have no full truth about the War in Iraq. and now she has asked the gentleman plan to get out of this war and most dan- When our American troops are the ones from California (Mr. GEORGE MILLER) gerous they have no plan to win this war. The fighting abroad, it is our military families who to help her. He started to circulate a truth is that our men and women of the Armed must also suffer. They wait every day and letter, which I signed, and I would like Forces are the ones caught in the middle, the night hoping to hear from the loved ones, to encourage others, because we are ones who have to fight and risk their lives in praying that they are not put in harm’s way, not encouraging her to start this. She a war that has not end in sight. that they may come home soon. Too many has already been doing it. And she is Earlier this week I offered an amendment to families have not been so lucky, finding out simply put out with the fact that she the Defense Appropriations bill which would the news of a loved one’s death is not only can get no response, no returned tele- have increased funding for training the Iraqi emotionally traumatizing it can have long term phone calls, anything. And I think that National Army by $500 million. This Amend- effects for the family that may never be re- we should give her some support. ment would have doubled the amount of paired. Such is the case with the family of In addition to that, I do think per- money appropriated for training the Iraqi Na- Army Spc. Robert Oliver Unruh a 25-year-old haps one of the things we should look tional Army within the Iraq Freedom Fund. soldier who was killed by enemy fire near at further is support for all the fami- However, Mr. Inslee’s amendment to lift the Baghdad on September 25th of last year. lies who have questions, because what I $500 million cap on funds for training the Iraqi Unruh was a combat engineer, who had been am hearing is families are not being National Army was accepted into this Appro- in Iraq less than a month when he was shot told how their children died. They get priation. Therefore, I will work with Chairman during an attack on his unit. Several days after the message that it has happened, but YOUNG and Ranking Member MURTHA to in- learning of his death, his mother had gone to

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Under the Penta- insistent.’’ Even Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, loved son killed in action, the emotion of it all gon’s ‘‘stop-loss’’ program, the Army can ex- the architect in many ways for this war admit- was just too much for her to take. There is tend enlistments during war or national emer- ted U.S. intelligence was wrong in its conclu- also the story of the Danner family in Branson, gencies, about 7,000 active-duty soldiers have sions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruc- Missouri who had to spend this last Father’s had their contracts extended under the policy, tion. ‘‘Why the intelligence proved wrong [on Day sending their father off to War in Iraq. and it could affect up to 40,000 reserve sol- weapons of mass destruction], I’m not in a po- Col. Steve Danner will be heading to Fort diers depending on how long the war in Iraq sition to say,’’ Rumsfeld said. ‘‘I simply don’t Riley, Kan., on Monday to begin training be- lasts. The Army has defended the policy, say- know.’’ When asked about any connection be- fore he begins a two-year tour in Iraq with the ing the fine print on every military contract tween Saddam and al Qaeda, Rumsfeld said, Army National Guard 35th Support Command. mentions the possibility that time of service ‘‘To my knowledge, I have not seen any At 52, Danner isn’t hesitating to fulfill his duty, may change under existing laws and regula- strong, hard evidence that links the two.’’ With but said it’s going to be tough to leave his tions. Its just cowardly to hide behind fine print leadership such as this, how are our troops family. ‘‘I’m as ready as I’m going to be,’’ Dan- when it comes to peoples lives being at stake supposed to have any confidence in this Ad- ner said. ‘‘My main regret is my youngest in this war, every day their tours are unjustly ministration and their handling of this war?? daughter is going to be a senior at Branson extended is another day they risk their lives. This Administration is creating new veterans and I’ll miss her softball games and probably However, many of these individuals are now everyday by sending our soldiers to Iraq, her graduation next year. We have to recog- fighting back against this injustice, rightfully meanwhile it has done nothing to help—the nize it’s a reality. I’ve done this a lot of years. asking why they, who have already proudly courageous veterans we already have here in It’s my turn again.’’ Danner’s wife, Katie, said served their Nation, must now be recalled for our Nation. There are over 26,550,000 vet- she was ‘‘shocked’’ when she learned her a war that has already claimed too many erans in the United States. In the 18th Con- husband would be headed to Iraq. ‘‘I knew American lives. Fewer than two-thirds of the gressional district of Texas alone there are there was always a possibility, but you would former soldiers being reactivated for duty in more than 38,000 veterans and they make up have thought, at his age, that the war wouldn’t Iraq and elsewhere have reported on time, almost ten percent of this district’s civilian pop- be at a point where they would need his tal- prompting the Army to threaten some with ulation over the age of 18. ents,’’ she said. The Danners have four chil- punishment for desertion. The former soldiers, As soldiers return home from serving in Iraq dren, Aryn Danner Richmond, 29, of Phoenix, part of what is known as the Individual Ready and Afghanistan, perhaps the most disturbing Andrew, 20, Alex, 19, and Audrey, 17. Katie Reserve (IRR), are being recalled to fill short- trend is their inability to find jobs because of Danner said they understand why their father ages in skills needed for the conflicts in Iraq their veteran status. Take the story of Staff needs to leave, but ‘‘I don’t think they really and Afghanistan. Sgt. Steven Cummings from Milan, Michigan. know what it will be like for Dad to be gone.’’ The military families know the helplessness Cummings’ wife took out two mortgages and It’s a true shame that loyal soldiers like Col. that many of their loved ones serving in Iraq the couple accumulated $15,000 in debt dur- Steve Danner have to be called up at the age feel because they are being given no voice in ing his 14 months overseas, because his sal- of 52 because of this war and the current re- this war they are being told to fight. An article ary was less than he was making as a civilian cruiting shortage. It’s stories like that that in the Christian Science Monitor article written electrical controls engineer. Looking back, make my heart ache and that strengthen my in July 2003, almost two years ago when this those almost seem like the good times. In the resolve to defend the rights and welfare of our war was still in its infancy, had a number of year since he’s been home, Cummings has American soldiers and their families. very telling quotes from U.S. soldiers in Iraq. been laid off from two jobs. While other rea- We must all stand as champions for our One soldier said: ‘‘Most soldiers would empty sons were given for the layoffs, Cummings men and women fighting abroad. These sol- their bank accounts just for a plane ticket thinks both were related to his duty in the diers who bravely reported for duty, they are home.’’ Another soldier, an officer from the Michigan National Guard and the time off it re- our sons and our daughters, they are our fa- Army’s 3rd Infantry Division said: ‘‘Make no quires. Like some other veterans who have re- thers and mothers, they are our husbands and mistake, the level of morale for most soldiers turned from Afghanistan and Iraq, he is strug- wives, they are our fellow Americans and they that I’ve seen has hit rock bottom.’’ The open- gling to find work. ‘‘I don’t know what I’m deserve better than the predicament that this ended deployments in Iraq and the constantly going to do now. I’m in the exact position I Administration has placed them in. Many of shifting time tables prompted one soldier to re- was when I came back from Iraq,’’ said these soldiers are now themselves standing mark: ‘‘The way we have been treated and the Cummings, a father of two. ‘‘I’m 50 years old up and demanding answers about this war. continuous lies told to our families back home and I have a mortgage payment due. I’m tired One such brave individual is Sgt. Camilo has devastated us all.’’ In yet another Army of it.’’ Cummings, a member of the 156th Sig- Mejia, whose case I know that many tremen- unit, an officer described the mentality of nal Battalion who did telecommunications work dous anti-war organizations have championed. troops: ‘‘They vent to anyone who will listen. in the Iraqi cities of Baghdad and Mosul, said Camilo spent six months in combat in Iraq, They write letters, they cry, they yell. Many he is surprised to find himself in this predica- and then returned for a 2-week furlough to the sometimes walk around looking visibly tired ment. Cummings said he thought he was re- U.S. There he reflected on what he had seen, and depressed.... We feel like pawns in a turning to Gentile Packaging Machinery Co., including the abuse of prisoners and the killing game that we have no voice [in].’’ These where he worked for 11 years in Bridgewater, of civilians. He concluded that the war was il- quotes were taken almost two years ago, I Mich., but he was told he was laid off the first legal and immoral, and decided that he would can only imagine how these soldiers and oth- day he was back to work, he said. Cummings not return. In March 2004 he turned himself in ers like them feel seeing that this war is still said he considered suing the owner, but fresh- to the U.S. military and filed an application for going on and with no real end in sight. These ly home from war, it just seemed over- conscientious objector status, for this he was quotes individually are sad, but collectively whelming to do so because he felt ‘‘dev- sentenced to one year in prison for refusing to they represent a pattern and unfortunately astated, betrayed, worthless.’’ A few months return to fight in Iraq. He has eloquently stat- once again it is our men and women in the later through a veterans program he was able ed: ‘‘Behind these bars I sit a free man be- Armed Forces who are paying the price. to get work at Superior Controls Inc., in Plym- cause I listened to a higher power, the voice Even members of this Administration who outh, Mich. But, he said he was laid off from of my conscience.’’ He was finally released orchestrated this war have their failures in this that job on May 20. He said he was told the from prison on February 15th of this year. I war. L. Paul Bremer, has said ‘‘horrid’’ looting company was downsizing, but he believes it applaud this young man for making a con- was occurring when he arrived to head the was because he complained about a company scious decision not to fight in a war he does U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority in policy that said it could not promise to hire re- not believe in, it’s a disgrace that this young Baghdad on May 6, 2003. ‘‘We paid a big turning veterans from war. Some are changed man who truly is a conscientious objector was price for not stopping it because it established by war, and find the civilian jobs they had be- treated like a criminal. an atmosphere of lawlessness,’’ Bremer said. fore are no longer as meaningful. This has Time and time again this Administration has ‘‘We never had enough troops on the ground.’’ also been the case with Cpl. Vicki Angell, 32, said that there are no plans for a draft, that we Prior to those comments he had also stated who was assigned to the 324th Military Police have an all-volunteer Army, but all of us know last September that: ‘‘The single most impor- Battalion out of Chambersburg, Pa. She gave the real truth that there is in effect a back door tant change . . . would have been having up her job as a customer service supervisor at

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The question is whether he equates our really hard to account for the time you are in lives in Iraq and honor them with a moment of never-ending American presence in Iraq with a Iraq, and really to try to make that, the things silence. new form of tyranny, rather than the freedom you were doing in Iraq relevant to what an Spc. Adolfo C. Carballo, 20, Houston, Texas the President says he seeks to spread. employer is looking for today,’’ Angell said. Died: April 10, 2004, Baghdad, Iraq. The underlying problem with our endless oc- Sgt. Benjamin Lewis, 36, who also lost a step- Pfc. Analaura Esparza Gutierrez, 21, Hous- cupation of Iraq—a country that does not son to the War in Iraq, was a civilian chef who ton, Texas Died: October 1, 2003, Tikrit, Iraq. threaten the United States—is that it under- worked at a restaurant in Ann Arbor, Mich., Spc. John P. Johnson, 24, Houston, Texas mines our leadership on issues that DO that burned down while he was deployed in Died: October 22, 2003, Baghdad, Iraq threaten the United States. North Korean and Iraq with the Michigan National Guard, said Spc. Scott Q. Larson, 22, Houston, Texas Iranian nuclear weapons, global terrorism, some employers directly told him they could Died: April 5, 2004, Baghdad, Iraq. emerging deadly international diseases—all not hire him because he could be deployed Sgt. Keelan L. Moss, 23, Houston, Texas these issues are imminent threats that we again and needed weekends and time off in Died: November 2, 2003, Al Fallujah, Iraq. must confront. Our ability to convince other the summer for drilling. Others, he said, asked Pfc. Armando Soriano, 20, Houston, Texas nations to join us in boldly confronting these if he struggled mentally because of his time at Died: February 1, 2004, Haditha, Iraq. threats has been hobbled both by our decep- war. He got so desperate he considered re- Cpl. Tomas Sotelo Jr., 20, Houston, Texas tive entry into Iraq and our lingering departure turning to Iraq with a new unit. It is because Died: June 27, 2003, Baghdad, Iraq. from it. of cases such as these and many others Staff Sgt. Brian T. Craig, 27, Houston, Mr. Speaker, our Iraq policy has become a throughout our nation that I am a proud co- Texas, April 15, 2002, Afghanistan festering wound that bleeds away more and sponsor of H.R. 1352, the Veterans Employ- Capt. Eric L. Allton, 34, Houston, Texas more of America’s wealth, America’s security, ment and Respect Act offered by my col- September 26, 2004, Ramadi, Iraq. America’s leadership, and even America leagues Representatives ALLYSON SCHWARTZ Capt. Andrew R. Houghton, 25, Houston, young men and women in uniform. I ask all and JOE SCHWARZ. This vital legislation al- Texas August 9, 2004, Ad Dhuha, Iraq. my colleagues to join me in asking the Presi- ready has 161 Congressional cosponsors and Lance Cpl. Thomas J. Zapp, 20, Houston, dent seek an exit from this venture at the ear- would give companies up to $2,400 in tax Texas November 8, 2004, Al Anbar Province, liest possible moment. credits for each veteran from the Afghanistan Iraq. f and Iraq wars that they hire. Unfortunately, we Cpl. Zachary A. Kolda, 23, Houston, Texas MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE may be able to give companies incentive to December 1, 2004, Al Anbar Province, Iraq. hire recent war veterans but it seems we can Staff Sgt. Dexter S. Kimble, 30, Houston, A message from the Senate by Mr. not get this Administration to put the same ef- Texas January 26, 2005, Ar Rutba, Iraq. Monahan, one of its clerks, announced fort in looking after our veterans in the first Pfc. Jesus A. Leon-Perez, 20, Houston, that the Senate has passed a bill of the place. Texas January 24, 2005, Mohammed Sacran, following title in which the concur- As soldiers return home from serving in Iraq Iraq. rence of the House is requested: and Afghanistan the need for medical care, liv- (Moment of Silence.) S. 1282. An act to amend the Communica- ing assistance, and disability benefits are Ms. WATSON. Mr. Speaker, we have spent tions Satellite Act of 1962 to strike the pri- steadily increasing. This puts a strain on an al- over $200 billion so far on the war in Iraq. Ac- vatization criteria for INTELSAT separated ready-overburdened Veterans Administration, cording to the Congressional Budget Office, by entities, remove certain restrictions on sepa- rated and successor entities to INTELSAT, which has not been adequately funded by the 2010, our expenses might be as much as and for other purposes. Bush Administration to meet these challenges. $600 billion. f The fact is that more than 30,000 veterans are The two hundred billion dollars we have waiting six months or more for an appointment spent so far would be enough money to pro- ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE at VA hospitals, and there are more than vide health care for the 45 million Americans The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. 348,000 veterans on the waiting list for dis- without health insurance. FITZPATRICK of Pennsylvania). Under ability claim decisions. This President has long That two hundred billion dollars would per- the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- ignored pressing domestic concerns for a war mit us to hire three and a half million elemen- uary 4, 2005, the gentleman from Mary- that did not need to be fought and for which tary school teachers. land (Mr. BARTLETT) is recognized for so many good American men and women That two hundred billion dollars for the war 60 minutes. have given their lives. in Iraq is going on America’s credit card and Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, what I It was our second President John Adams that goes right to the deficit—a debt to be paid want to spend a few moments talking who aptly said: ‘‘Great is the guilt of an unnec- by our children and grandchildren. about this evening is something that essary war.’’ Unfortunately for our nation, our All this might be worth it if we had some- will be new to most Americans. They current President has not felt the weight of this thing to show for it. I think two hundred billion will not have heard about this subject. guilt, for if he had our loved ones in the Armed dollars for peace and democracy is a bargain. Indeed, nobody knew about this until Forces would be home now. This Administra- But we haven’t gotten peace and democ- 1962; that is, no one in this country tion told us that the international community racy. That two hundred billion has bought us: knew about it. would join us in Iraq; they said the world over seventeen hundred dead Americans; an There was an experiment over John- would be a better place because of this war unknowable number of Iraqi civilian deaths; a ston Island out in the Pacific Ocean and then they said major combat in Iraq was dysfunctional country that cannot move its po- that was called Operation Starfish. It over. Today as we see our men and women litical process forward; a new haven and prov- was part of a series of nuclear tests every day giving their lives in Iraq, we know ing ground for anti-American extremism; a that were called the Fishbowl Series. that this war has only caused a greater divide wellspring of mistrust from longtime friends This was a unique one. The others had between our nation and the international com- and allies around the world; and a devastating all been at ground level or some little munity, this war has only increased hatred for erosion of American leadership and credibility. distance above the ground. This one our nation, it has not made us safer as prom- So what are we still doing there? The Presi- was an extra-atmospheric, a detonation ised, it has in fact put us in greater danger. dent says we are pursuing our ‘‘ultimate goal above the atmosphere. President Abraham Lincoln speaking after the of ending tyranny in our world.’’ But the Presi- Nobody knew what was going to hap- conclusion of the Civil War, gave a vision for dent has dragged onto a path that, at best, pen. It was the first time we had deto- our nation that I hope we can follow today, he muddles that message. nated a nuclear weapon in a test series said: ‘‘With malice toward none; with clarity for We are building our nation’s largest em- above the atmosphere, and there were a all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us bassy in Iraq; even before it is complete, we number of ships and airplanes and to see the right, let us strive on to finish the have more than 1,000 embassy staff in Iraq. radar, theater-like, that were tracking work we are in; to bind up the nation’s What is the average Iraqi on the streets of the missile that launched this nuclear wounds; to care for him who shall have borne Fallujah—or average Jordanian on the streets bomb and noted its explosion. The ex- the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan- of Amman—going to think when he sees that plosion occurred about 400 kilometers

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Fac- have learned from the Soviets and now personal representative, Slobodan tor in the Cold War with only two su- the Russians and the number of sim- Milosevic. We developed a framework perpowers, we absolutely would have ulations that we have done since that agreement for ending the Kosovo con- known where it came from, but today, time. flict that was adopted 8 days later by how would you know? There are many There were no diagnostics to test the the G–8. countries out there who can get a effects on Hawaii, which was about 800 One of the Russians who was there tramp steamer and a Scud launcher miles away, because nobody expected was a very senior Russian. His name is and a crude nuclear weapon and that is there to be any effect there. Many of Vladimir Lukin. He was the ambas- all it would take to produce an EMP the instruments we were using for test- sador to this country at the end of attack because a Scud launcher goes ing around Johnston Island were Bush I and the beginning of Clinton. At about 180 miles apogee, and that is pegged; that is, they did not have that time he was chair of their equiva- plenty high. It would not cover all of enough capacity to register the effects lent of our Committee on International the United States, of course. that were produced by this extra-at- Relations, a very senior and very re- The third ranking Communist was mospheric explosion. spected Russian. He is a little short fel- there, a handsome, tall, blond fellow by What happened in Hawaii may be low with short arms and stocky build. the name of Alexander Shurbanov, and open to some controversy, but there He sat in that hotel room in Vienna he smiled and said, if one weapon were some lights that went out. This for 2 days with his arms folded across would not do it, we have some spares. I was largely electrical. In those days it his chest, looking at the ceiling. He think at that time it was something was not all of the electronics that we was very angry. He said at one point, like 7,000 spares that they had. This was a very startling remark, have today. A number of lights went You spit on us; now why should we help and what it said was that the detona- out, and in the last couple of years, you? tion of a single, large, appropriately some of the evidence of what happened What he meant by that was that the designed nuclear weapon above our to that equipment was shown to a com- United States, the Clinton administra- country could shut down our power mission that I will talk about in a lit- tion at that time, had indicated to the grid and shut down our communica- tle bit that was set up in 2001 to inves- Russians that they really were not tions, he said, for 6 months or so. If tigate this phenomenon, and they sub- needed to help resolve this conflict, that were true, and there is increasing mitted their report in 2004. that we were big boys and we would evidence, as I will indicate, from the This phenomenon that we observed handle this on our own. It soon became report that this commission gave us there that exceeded the capacity of the obvious to the Clinton administration that it is true, that would mean that instruments at the test site, that went that the only country in the world that you would be in a world, Mr. Speaker, all the way, 800 miles away, to Hawaii, had the real confidence of the Serbs where the only person you could talk have been called electromagnetic was Russia, and they were added to the to was the person next to you unless pulse, EMP. We have learned since then G–7 to make the G–8, which 5 days after you happened to have a vacuum tube that every extra-atmospheric explosion we came back resolved the Kosovo con- handset, then you could talk because produces an EMP. You can develop a flict with the framework agreement they are about a million times less sus- nuclear weapon, as we designed but as that we had developed there. ceptible to EMP than our current The statement that Vladimir Lukin I understand never built and the Sovi- microelectronic systems, and the only made was a startling statement. The ets both designed and have built, en- way you could go anywhere was to chairman of our delegation was the hanced EMP weapons that limit the ex- walk. plosion but increased the electro- gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Several years ago, we had a field magnetic effects. WELDON) who had been to Russia thir- hearing at Johns Hopkins University What are the implications of EMP ty-some times and he speaks some Rus- applied physics lab, and a Dr. Lowell and why are we talking about it to- sian and understands more. When Wood was there. I met Dr. Lowell Wood night? EMP could be probably the most Vladimir Lukin was speaking, he through Tom Clancy who lives on the asymmetric weapon that any adversary turned to me and said, Did you hear eastern shore of Maryland and I know could use against us. By asymmetric, what he said? Yes, I heard what he him. He has come to do several polit- we mean a weapon that has a relatively said, but of course, I did not under- ical events for me. I knew that he had small impact in terms of its local ef- stand it; I just heard Russian words. done a book where EMP was a part of fect but could have an enormous im- When it was translated, this was the scenario, and I knew he did very pact on our military or our society be- what he said, and by the way, he did good research and he could tell me cause of its effect. not need a translator. Vladimir Lukin something about EMP. This was sev- There are a number of asymmetric speaks very good English, but when eral years ago. weapons. Terrorism is an asymmetric you are talking with these folks, they I called Tom Clancy and I asked him, weapon. It does not cost them much frequently will speak in their native and he said, gee, if you read my book money or take very big explosives, but tongue so it has to be translated and you know all about EMP that I know, it has a big effect on us. 9/11, of course, then translated back to them when we but he said let me refer you to the was a major asymmetric attack on us speak so that gives them twice as long smartest man hired by the U.S. govern- because those few people in those four to formulate their answer. So if you do ment. He referred me to a Dr. Lowell airplanes have cost us billions and bil- not know both languages, you are at Wood from Lawrence Livermore Lab- lions of dollars and totally changed our somewhat of a disadvantage in oratory in California. We got his pager society. This is an example of an asym- dialoguing with them because they number. In those days it was pagers metric attack. have twice as long to formulate an an- rather than cell phones that are so Most Americans will not know about swer. ubiquitous today, and I paged him, be- electromagnetic pulse and what it This was what surprised the gen- lieving that he was in California. The could do to our military, to our soci- tleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. pager signal went up to a satellite and ety, but I will guarantee my col- WELDON), and this is what he said: If we back down, and he was in Washington, leagues, Mr. Speaker, that all of our really wanted to hurt you, with no fear and within an hour, he was sitting in potential enemies know everything of retaliation, we would launch an my office. about EMP. In a little bit, I will show SLBM. That’s a submarine-launched Dr. Lowell Wood at this field hearing you some quotes from countries that ballistic missile. We would launch an out at the applied physics lab out in

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:37 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00085 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.160 H21PT1 H4890 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 Howard County made the observation A little later I will show a chart that By the way, there is no way that a nu- that an EMP lay down would be the says the interview with some Russian clear weapon could do anywhere near equivalent of a giant continental time generals have indicated that they have as much damage against a sophisti- machine that would move us back a weapons that can produce 200 kilovolts cated country like ours by dropping it century in technology. What this per meter. They told us, and I cannot on one of our cities as you could do to would mean, of course, is that we tell Members the exact voltage to our country by detonating it at alti- would have no more capability for which we have harkened, but I can say tude. And you would not know it hap- moving around, for communicating to that the Russian generals told us they pened unless you were looking at it. each other, for plowing our fields, for believe that this signal was several We are totally immune to EMP. It moving our equipment and our food times higher than the voltage to which will not hurt us or damage buildings. around than we had 100 years ago. we had hardened. And even out at the All it does is to knock out all of our I said that, Dr. Wood, the population periphery with 50 percent degradation, microelectronics, which means all of we have today, 285 million people and it was higher than we had hardened. By our computers. For instance, your car its distribution, largely in large cities ‘‘hardening’’ I mean we have put some has several computers. Indeed, if you and suburbia, could not be supported buffers in there that would intercept have a new car, they cannot even work by the technology of a century ago. His this pulse, like the surge protectors on it in a shop without hooking it up to unemotional response was, Yes, I that we have for our computers which a computer to tell what is wrong with know. we have for lightning which will do no the vehicle. So an EMP with a high enough pulse would fry the computers b 2130 good for EMP because this pulse has such a rapid rise time measured in in the car. They would not run. If you The population will shrink until it nanoseconds. happen to have an old car with a coil can be supported by the technology. This pulse will be through the surge and a distributor, that is probably The point I am trying to make is this protector before the protector sees it. going to work. That is probably less could be a devastating asymmetric If you are 200 kilovolts at ground zero, susceptible to EMP. weapon. It may not be known to most it is 100 out at the periphery, and that This chart shows additional quotes: Americans. I suspect not one in 100 is probably enough to weld, to fry all of ‘‘If the world’s industrial countries fail have heard of nuclear electromagnetic our microelectronics, which is why to devise effective ways to defend pulse, but I can assure Members that Vladimir Lukin said they would deto- themselves against dangerous elec- all of our potential enemies know a nate a nuclear weapon high above our tronic assaults, they will disintegrate great deal about EMP. country, shut down our power grid and within a few years. 150,000 computers The first chart shows the effects of a our communications for 6 months or belong to the U.S. Army. If the enemy single nuclear weapon. This one is det- so. forces succeed in infiltrating the infor- onated in the northwest corner of Iowa, From chart 2, I want to give some mation network of the U.S. Army, then and it blankets all of the United quotes from potential enemies to indi- the whole organization would collapse. States. cate that I am not letting the genie out The American soldiers could not find The colors here indicate the inten- of the bottle this evening. They know food to eat nor would they be able to sity of the pulse you get from that. The all about it. Not one in 50 Americans fire a single shot.’’ This is from Iranian purple as you can see from the scale is may know about EMP, but I want to Journal, December 1998. 50 percent. So what this says is what- assure Members our potential enemies ‘‘Terrorist information warfare in- ever the intensity was at ground zero, know all about EMP. cludes using the technology directed and we are several hundred miles above This first quote is the quote that I energy weapons or electromagnetic that, but the intensity at that level heard myself sitting in that hotel room pulse.’’ This is from Iranian Journal of which is the red here in the center, will in Vienna, Austria when Vladimir March 2000. be half that out at the margins of our Lukin said they could shut down our Terrorists have attempted to acquire country. power grid and our communications. non-nuclear radio frequency weapons. This little smile here and the distor- That was May 2, 1999. There were 10 These are the weapons that would tion here is due to the magnetic field of other Congressmen there and several produce the directed energy effect. the Earth that bends the electrons that staff members. These produce a similar kind of pulse I will describe in just a moment. Chinese military writings describe to EMP but does not have the broad What is this electromagnetic pulse? EMP as the key to victory and describe spectrum. It only has part of the fre- It is produced from strong gamma rays scenarios where EMP is used against quency involved. But if intense enough, from the nuclear explosion which U.S. aircraft carriers in a conflict over if set up in this room, for instance, it produce electrons that move at the Taiwan. It is not like our potential en- could fry the computers in the cloak speed of light. They move now to ev- emies not only know about it. And room which is not that far away. If it erything within line of sight. If you are they know that we know about it, so was set up in a van and went down Wall about 3 or 400 miles high over the cen- they feel free to put it in their public Street, if it were a really sophisticated ter of the country, Iowa or Nebraska, writings. device, it could take out all of the com- that will blanket all of the United A survey of worldwide military and puters there, which would shut down States. scientific literature sponsored by the our trading for quite a while if they If the voltage is high enough, it will EMP commission was set up, and they were all taken down. disrupt or fry these microelectronics. functioned for 2 years. They submitted Some people might think that things Mr. Speaker, if you want to work on a report and they are now continuously similar to a Pearl Harbor incident are the inside of your computer, you need briefing additional entities, different unlikely to take place during the Infor- to be very careful that the static elec- organizations and people. They found mation Age. And this is a writing from tricity that you produce just by rub- widespread knowledge about EMP and China. Yet it could be regarded as a bing your clothes together will not its potential military utility, including Pearl Harbor incident of the 21st cen- damage it. You need to put a little in Taiwan, Israel, Egypt, India, Paki- tury, if a surprise attack is conducted wrist band on and ground yourself. At stan, Iran, and North Korea. Iran has against the enemy’s crucial informa- factories where most of these com- tested launching a scud missile from a tion systems of command, control, and puters are made, and it is almost all surface vessel, a launch mode that communication by such means as EMP women that I have seen there, this is could support a national or weapons. Even a superpower, China one area where women do it better transnational terrorist EMP attack says, like the United States, which pos- than men, and they are grounded to the against the United States. sesses nuclear missiles and powerful floor. They have a metal anklet on, and By the way, we thought that launch armed forces, cannot guarantee its im- they are grounded to the floor because was a failure because the device was munity. In their words, an open society static from just their movement could detonated before it reached land. Now, like the United States is extremely damage these very sensitive, very tiny that is exactly what you would do if vulnerable to electronic attacks. This microelectronics. you were rehearsing an EMP attack. is May 14, 1996 from a Chinese journal.

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This that could be driven onto a freighter equipment only from Radio Shack. So is the EMP commission report that was and transported to a point near the they went to places like Radio Shack Public Law 106–398, title 14. This was United States for an EMP attack. and they bought the equipment and the law that set up this commission By the way, an EMP laydown is al- they put it together in this van that and all of this is from their report. ways an early event in Chinese and could go down the street and it was Over at the left of this chart, Mr. Russian war games because it is the kind of camouflaged so it was not sure Speaker, you see the effects of an most asymmetric attack that they what it was and this directed energy extra-atmospheric detonation above could lodge against our country. weapon had the ability to take out our country and the concentric circles there show the range that would be Just a little bit of a time line here. microelectronic equipment at consider- covered by detonations at different al- Operation Starfish occurred in 1962. In able distance from it. titudes. You see you need to get up 1995, there was a very interesting event In 2001 because of my concerns about about 300 miles high, that is about 500 that nearly started World War III. It the potential for EMP, I had put in the kilometers, before it covers all of the has been written up in several books authorization that year legislation United States. These are direct quotes now. Most people never knew about it, that set up a commission to look at this eventuality. The next chart shows from the commission: but the Norwegians launched an atmos- EMP is one of a small number of pheric test rocket. They are fairly the commissioners that were on this. These are all very well known people. threats—indeed, I do not know any close to Russia, and they told the Rus- other threat—EMP is one of a small sians that they were launching this The first person that heads the list there is Dr. Johnny Foster who is the number of threats that may, one, hold rocket; but in the bureaucracy of Rus- at risk the continued existence of to- sia, that did not get communicated to father of most of our modern nuclear weapons. He is the Edward Teller of day’s U.S. civil society. We need to put the right people and when they that in everyday kitchen language, Mr. launched it, it was interpreted as a today. Another one of our commission members, Dr. Lowell Wood that I have Speaker. What they are saying is that first salvo from the United States. You this would end life as we know it in the do not have very long to respond if mentioned already, kind of inherited the mantle of Edward Teller. There United States. Let me read it again in your enemy is about a half hour away their carefully couched language: Hold in terms of these ballistic missiles. The were several other people. They had nine people altogether. Dr. Bill at risk the continued existence of to- Russians came very near to launching day’s U.S. civil society. If, Mr. Speak- a major salvo of missiles with nuclear Graham who chaired it was the deputy chair of the emerging ballistic missile er, this EMP attack really did what warheads on them against our country. Vladimir Lukin said it would do and This was a very narrow brush with des- threat that was chaired by Donald Rumsfeld before he was the Secretary that is to shut down our power grid and tiny that tells us how important it is of Defense. Dr. Bill Graham has been our communications for 6 months or that we understand the potential of the presidential science adviser. He has so, if the only person you could talk to these weapons and how they could be held a lot of very high posts. He is real- is the person next to you and the only misunderstood by an enemy. ly very well known. Commissioner way you could go anywhere was to In 1997, I sat in a hearing here on Richard Lawson was a USAF general, walk, I think it is very obvious that Capitol Hill and General Marsh was served on the Joint Chiefs of Staff and that would end life as we know it in there. He was the general in charge of was Deputy Commander in Chief of the this country. Hold at risk, they say, the President’s Commission on Critical U.S.-European Command. The last the continued existence of today’s U.S. Infrastructure. He was looking at the member listed here, Dr. Joan Woodard, civil society. Also, it has the power to critical infrastructure of our country I had a very interesting experience disrupt our military forces and our and its vulnerability to enemy attack. with her. I did not remember the ability to project military power. That I asked him if he had looked at EMP. names of all the commission members is because, Mr. Speaker, for the last He said, yes, he did. Well? Well, the and they had just been set up a little decade, more than the last decade, we commission thought there was not a while and I went out to Albuquerque, have been waiving EMP hardening on high probability there would be an New Mexico, to visit my son who works almost all of our weapons systems. You EMP attack, so they had not consid- there in the laboratory. He brought see, when we had so little money to ered it any further. home from the lab a little internal re- buy weapons, particularly during the My observation to that was, Gee, if port that they were passing around Clinton years when they called it a you have not already, I am sure when that indicated to me that they might build-down, I called it a teardown of you go home tonight you are going to have some expertise at the lab there the military, we could get a few more cancel the fire insurance on your home that would be useful in the work of the percent weapons systems that cost because there is not a very high prob- commission. And so I asked to have a somewhere between 1 percent and 10 ability that your home will burn. briefing on it and, big surprise, Dr. percent to harden, so you could get 1 When you have an event like a poten- Joan Woodard was one of the commis- percent to 10 percent more weapons tial fire in your home or an EMP at- sioners and she had been working for systems if you did not harden, and so tack, which is a very high-impact, but several months and had a number of they just ran a calculated risk that we low-probability, event, that is just the her staff working with her and I had a would not need the hardening. But, Mr. kind of an event that you purchase in- 5-hour classified briefing on the poten- Speaker, the time when we are really surance to protect you from. It is un- tial effects of EMP not just on our going to need these weapons is when we likely to happen; but if it happened, it military because they were spending are at war against a peer, and there would be so devastating you would most of their time on our national in- will be a peer, a resurgent Russia or a need insurance to cover that. frastructure. So we had this body of China of the future and the first thing Mr. Speaker, what we need is the real experts that was working for 2 they are going to do, they say so in equivalent in our country of the insur- years. Ordinarily a commission works their writings, they say so in their war ance policy that you bought on your for 1 year. This one worked for 2 years games, the first thing they are going to home. We need to make an investment and brought forth a big report. They do is an EMP laydown which will then in the equivalent of an insurance pol- are still writing, I think, the third vol- deny us the use of all of our military icy so we will be able to anticipate if ume of this report. They have now equipment which is not hardened. I am we can survive an EMP attack. briefed the House, they have briefed not sure why we are building it, we do

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Yes, that is true. were anticipating that they might need central part of our country that was There was one then, the Soviet Union. them hardened. such high quality that you could al- Now there are a whole bunch. Let us Strategically and politically, an most smelt it in a backyard smelter. try Iran if it gets a weapon, North EMP attack can threaten entire re- Indeed, there is one of those, you can Korea, India, Pakistan, a number of gional or national infrastructures that drive up and see it just south of countries that are today our friends, are vital to U.S. military strength and Thurmont on Route 15. It is called Ca- England and France and Israel and the societal survival, challenge the integ- toctin Furnace and they denuded the list goes on. rity of allied regional coalitions, and hills up there to produce coke to make Quotes again from the commission, pose an asymmetrical threat more dan- iron there. You see here a very inter- not my quotes. Potential adversaries gerous to the high-tech West than to related infrastructure. The point they are aware of the EMP’s strategic at- rogue states. Indeed, if we responded in are making is that if one part of that tack option, obviously from what kind, it would really be an asymmetric comes down, suppose you do not have Vladimir Lukin said and you can glean attack, because they would be little af- electric power, they have not drawn all that from their writings. The threat is fected by taking out their computers the arrows they should have drawn be- not adequately addressed in U.S. na- since they little depend on their com- cause you are not going to have oil or tional and homeland security pro- puters. gas, you are not going to have commu- grams, and that is a gross understate- Technically and operationally, EMP nications, you are not going to have ment. It is not only not adequately ad- attacks can compensate for defi- water, you are not going to have bank- dressed, it is hardly addressed at all. ciencies in missile accuracy, fusing, ing or finance, you are not going to The second chart is again quotes range, reentry. Suppose they are really have government services, you are not from the EMP commission and we have lousy in the kind of missiles they have, going to have emergency services, you redacted some names here. I am not their aim is very poor. If they missed are not going to have transportation sure the Russian generals would want the target by 100 miles, Mr. Speaker, it without electricity. So if you take the world to know who they were, but really does not matter. One hundred down just that one thing, everything these are the two Russian generals that miles is as pretty much as good as a comes down. Of course, if you do not I mentioned. They claim that Russia dead hit because 100 miles away really have any banking services, pretty soon has designed a super EMP nuclear will not make that much difference in everything will grind to a halt because weapon capable of generating 200 kilo- the very large areas that are covered they will not have the finances to keep volts per meter. I cannot tell you what by this EMP attack. the thing going. we hardened to, but I can tell you that Terrorists could steal, purchase or be One or a few high altitude nuclear the Russian generals believe that this provided a nuclear weapon for an EMP detonations can produce EMPs simul- is several times the level to which we attack against the United States sim- taneously over wide geographic areas. have hardened. Chinese, Russian, Paki- ply by launching a primitive Scud mis- Again, I am quoting from the commis- stani scientists are working in North sile off a freighter near our shores. We sion. Unprecedented catastrophic fail- Korea and could enable that country to would have, Mr. Speaker, 3 or 4 min- ure of our electronics-dependent infra- develop an EMP weapon in the near fu- utes’ notice. Scud missiles can be pur- structure could result. I think that you ture. This is not my statement, Mr. chased on the world market today for should almost put the verb in there, Speaker. This is a direct quote from less than $100,000. Al Qaeda is esti- Mr. Speaker, would result. You may the EMP commission. mated to own about 80 freighters. So have noted in the paper just today, I The next chart shows additional what they need is $100,000 to buy a think, or yesterday, there was an ac- quotes from the EMP commission. Scud missile and a crude nuclear weap- count that we almost had another big States or terrorists may well calculate on that who knows where they might blackout, just almost tripped that big that using a nuclear weapon for EMP get that. Maybe some Russian scientist blackout and there is no catastrophic attack offers the greatest utility. In- who has not been paid for 4 or 5 years. insult like an EMP laydown to cause deed, if they had a single weapon, tak- Certain types of low-yield weapons that. Power, energy, transport, ing out Los Angeles, San Francisco, can generate potentially catastrophic telecom and financial systems are par- New York, Philadelphia, Washington EMP effects. These are the enhanced ticularly vulnerable and inter- would have nowhere near the effect on EMP weapons that the Soviets, the dependent. We just talked about that, our society as simply taking out all of Russians, have developed. Mr. Speaker, very vulnerable, lots of computers, our computers. we have every reason to believe that very interdependent. One goes down EMP offers a bigger bang for the these secrets are now held by China. and they all come down. EMP disrup- buck against U.S. military forces in a There is no reason to entertain the tion of these sectors could cause large regional conflict or a means of dam- thought that they do not have these se- scale infrastructure failures for all as- aging the U.S. homeland. Again, these crets. And if China has them, who else pects of the Nation’s life. are not my words. These are quotes has them? I think the safest thing to from the EMP commission. assume is that any potential enemy b 2200 This is a really interesting one. EMP has them. Both civilian and military capabili- may be less provocative of U.S. mas- The last chart from the commission ties depend on these infrastructures. sive retaliation compared to a nuclear shows a very interesting little sche- Without adequate protection, recovery attack on a U.S. city that inflicts matic on the right which shows the could be prolonged months to years. many prompt casualties. Even, Mr. interrelationships of our very complex What would happen if that was pro- Speaker, if we knew where it came infrastructure. This was commented on longed months to years? from, if all they have done is take out a number of years ago by a scientist at Increased dependence on advanced our computers, are we justified in in- Cal Tech who held a series of seminars electronic systems results in the poten- cinerating their grandmothers and called The Next 100 Years. He was theo- tial for an increased EMP vulnerability their babies? Maybe we should respond rizing, could we indeed recover from of our technologically advanced forces, in kind and take out all the computers something, he did not know about making EMP probably the most attrac- in North Korea. I doubt that very few EMP, so he was talking about a nu- tive asymmetric weapon. EMP threat- people in North Korea would care that clear war, because he noted that we ens the ability of the United States and we took out all their computers. This, had developed a very interconnected, Western nations to project influence Mr. Speaker, is really a very asym- complicated infrastructure where one and military power. We could be easily metric attack because if we responded part depended on another part and we blackmailed by a country that has the

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:37 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00088 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.164 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4893 ability to produce an EMP laydown if I would like to say, Mr. Speaker, that about 3 days’ supply of food in any one we are not prepared to protect our- the EMP Commission report is really a of our big cities. If the trucks do not selves from it. good-news story. One would not think keep coming, the supermarket may be Degradation of the infrastructures it was good news pointing out how very open 24 hours a day, but when we are in could have irreversible effects on the vulnerable we are, but the good news is there, Mr. Speaker, we are going to see country’s ability to support its popu- that we now know how vulnerable we that as we are taking it off the shelf, lation, and this one brief three-word are, and we know that this is fixable; they are stocking the shelves. This sentence, ‘‘millions could die.’’ That is and it is fixable for far, far less cost goes on continually because there are what Dr. Lowell Wood said when I than the Iraq war. We just need, Mr. only about 3 days of food. What would asked him how could the technology of Speaker, to do it. It is not going to happen if our trucks could not run? a century ago support our present pop- happen overnight. It is going to happen What would our cities do after those 3 ulation and its distribution. And his quicker in our military than in our pri- days after the food was gone? It is very unemotional answer was, ‘‘Yes, I know. vate sector because we turn over our easy, Mr. Speaker, to stock far more The population will shrink until it can weapons programs quicker than we than 3 days of food in one’s house. be supported by the technology.’’ That turn over our big transformers and our A number of years ago, there was a shrink could easily, easily, Mr. Speak- power grid and so forth. But we can lit- very well-known economist by the er, be in the millions or hundreds of tle by little, year by year, fix our na- name of Howard Ruff. He had made millions of people. tional infrastructure and fix our mili- some predictions about the stock mar- There are two other charts that I tary so that we are not as vulnerable. ket that made him kind of an icon in want to show the Members, and this is Mr. Speaker, being vulnerable like his day, and people would come to him what other people are saying. This is this, and I pointed out comments from for advice. And a very interesting from an op-ed piece by Senator JOHN the writings of a number of our poten- story, when they came with their KYL, and I am delighted that Senator tial enemies, it is not that they do not money and said, How should we invest KYL is helping with spreading the word know this. Not one person in 50 in the our money Mr. Ruff, he would say, Do about this and the caution that we United States will know it, but it is you have a year’s supply of food for really need to be doing something. This very obvious that all of our potential your family? They would say, No. He was in The Washington Post, and he enemies know about this. Our very vul- would say, If you do not have a year’s says: ‘‘Last week the Senate Judiciary nerability invites that attack. Because supply of food for your family, you do Committee’s Subcommittee on Ter- we are so vulnerable, because it is so not have any money to invest. The rorism, Technology and Homeland Se- asymmetric, we invite that attack. Mr. first thing you need to do is buy a curity, which I chair,’’ this was JOHN Speaker, we need to do everything we year’s supply of food for your family, KYL, ‘‘held a hearing on a major threat can to lessen the probability of attack. and then come back and we will talk to the United States not only from ter- And the longer we go unprotected from about how to invest the rest of your rorists but from rogue nations like EMP, the more we invite this attack money because that is the best invest- North Korea. An electromagnetic and the more vulnerable we are. U.S. ment that you need to make. pulse, EMP, attack is one of only a few strategy to address the EMP threat They would come back, and he would ways that America could be essentially should balance prevention, prepara- say, You have a year’s supply of food? defeated by our enemies, terrorists or tion, protection, and recovery. Yes, sir. otherwise. Few if any people would die We have been talking primarily, Mr. Well, he said, do you have a bag of right away, but the long-term loss of Speaker, about prevention, about hard- silver? electricity would essentially bring our ening, so that those pulses will not get A bag of silver is a bag of junk silver society to a halt. Few can conceive of through so that it will not fry the and one may do something else but the possibility that terrorists could equipment and our infrastructure can they need the equivalent of this. That bring American society to its knees by keep working. There are a number of is junk silver. It is silver that has no knocking out our power supply from things we need to do in preparation. numanistic value, and it is in bags that several miles in the atmosphere, but One of the things we need to do is to are sealed and they have a $1,000 face this time we have been warned and we have the equivalent of the old civil de- value. He said, Unless you have a bag better be prepared.’’ And this is his fense. In our homeland security we of silver for each member of your fam- comment. really are not looking at civil defense. ily, you have not made the second most Another comment here, and this is Those who are my age and maybe a lit- important investment you could make; from the Washington Times and just a tle younger but mostly my age can so go buy that and come back and we couple of brief paragraphs here. This is very well remember all those fallout will talk about what to do with the from Major Franz Gayl: ‘‘The impact of shelters, and the young people may rest your money. EMP is asymmetric in relation to our have noticed some of those rusting These are the kinds of things that adversaries. The less developed soci- signs and wondered what they were be- Americans need to be thinking about. eties of North Korea, Iran, and other cause there were fall-out shelters al- What can they do, Mr. Speaker, what potential EMP attack perpetrators are most everywhere a generation ago. can their family do, what can their less electronically dependent and less In the 1950s, IBM was lending their church group do so that they are not specialized while more capable of con- employees money interest-free to build going to be a liability on the society tinued functionality in the absence of backyard shelters. We were expecting should there be a terrorist attack that modern convenience.’’ the potential of a bolt out of the blue, shuts down these services or should That is an easy way to say they are that nuclear weapons would be rained there be a national EMP attack that not dependent upon computers like we down on us. And there were brochures shuts them down all over our country? are and we would suffer a whole lot put out by the government telling us We can do something, Mr. Speaker, to more than them. And then in the next how to build a fall-out shelter, what to prepare ourselves so that we are going paragraph he pointed out that because put in the fall-out shelter, what we to have some sense that we can make of our enormous complexity, how tech- needed to buy. EMP is not going to be it through so that we are not going to nologically developed we are, that our anywhere near as hard to protect our- be a liability on the system. great strength has become potentially selves against as a nuclear explosion Let me show the last chart here now our great weakness when we are talk- and all that fall-out. But to the extent in our conclusion. The fiscal year 2006 ing about EMP. that each of us and our families and defense authorization bill contains a Now, Mr. Speaker, I would like to our communities are prepared for this, provision that extends the EMP Com- close with some observations. Again, our country is going to be enormously mission’s life to ensure that their rec- from the commission’s report, the EMP stronger should this happen to us. ommendations will be implemented. threat is one of a few potentially cata- And, Mr. Speaker, whether one is We want them watching to see what we strophic threats to the United States. preparing for an EMP attack or for a are doing. We want them to tell us and By taking action, the EMP threat can terrorist attack or anything that dis- to tell the public. We are a representa- be reduced to manageable levels. rupts our usual economy, we have tive government here; and when our

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:37 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00089 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.166 H21PT1 H4894 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 people call in and say, Are you doing ity and they are helping the economy. Mr. YOUNG of Florida (at the request this, are you doing that, my wife If they wait until the threat is at their of Mr. DELAY) for today on account of points out that if we do not represent door and they now buy it, now they are business in the district. our constituents, we will not represent a hoarder and nobody wants a hoarder. f our constituents. So if the people So our homeland security needs to help SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED across our country demand that we be us to know what we need to do so that prepared, that we tell them how to be we will be as self-sufficient as possible, By unanimous consent, permission to prepared themselves, then we will do an asset and not a liability. address the House, following the legis- this. Mr. Speaker, there is an old saying lative program and any special orders The terrorists are looking for that to be forewarned is to be heretofore entered, was granted to: vulnerabilities to attack, and our civil- forearmed. I know that probably not (The following Members (at the re- ian infrastructure is particularly sus- even one in 50 Americans has ever quest of Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas) to ceptible to this kind of an attack. Our heard of EMP, but I will assure the revise and extend their remarks and in- very vulnerability invites this attack. Members that all of our potential en- clude extraneous material:) Mr. Speaker, we obviously cannot do it emies know all about EMP. We see it in Mrs. MCCARTHY, for 5 minutes, today. yesterday. We certainty need to do it their writings. We see it in their war Mr. EMANUEL, for 5 minutes, today. today and tomorrow to begin to pro- games. And what we need to do, Mr. Mr. BROWN of Ohio, for 5 minutes, tect ourselves against it. Speaker, is to proceed as rapidly as we today. The Department of Homeland Secu- can to develop a military that is im- Mr. DEFAZIO, for 5 minutes, today. rity needs to identify critical infra- mune to EMP, to develop an infrastruc- Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida, for 5 structures. What are the first things, ture that as quickly as possible will be minutes, today. Mr. Speaker, that we need to turn our less and less damaged by EMP, and to Mrs. JONES of Ohio, for 5 minutes, attention to? Where would a minimal provide each American citizen with the today. investment pay the biggest dividends? information they need so that they, Ms. WOOLSEY, for 5 minutes, today. And we need to have people studying their family, their social club, their (The following Members (at the re- this. The EMP Commission has made a church, as individuals, as families, as quest of Mr. JONES of North Carolina) lot of very good suggestions. If we sim- groups, can plan so that they will be as to revise and extend their remarks and ply followed those suggestions, we self-sufficient as possible in whatever include extraneous material:) would be a long way to where we need emergency occurs. Mr. POE, for 5 minutes, today. to be. The Department of Homeland Se- And who knows what the terrorists Mr. GUTKNECHT, for 5 minutes, June curity also needs to develop a plan to might do to us. This is clearly the most 28. help citizens deal with such an attack devastating, the most asymmetric at- Mr. PAUL, for 5 minutes, today and should it occur, and then the little tack that could be made on our coun- June 22. note that our citizens need to become try; but there could be lesser ones that Ms. FOXX, for 5 minutes, June 23. as self-sufficient as possible. could for one’s family, one’s locality be Mr. MCCAUL of Texas, for 5 minutes, Mr. Speaker, we have spent the bet- just as devastating as an EMP attack. today. ter part of an hour talking about some- Mr. Speaker, I know the American Mr. NORWOOD, for 5 minutes, June 22. thing that one might expect to see in a people will respond and know when our Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania, for 5 science fiction movie or in some maga- enemies see us responding that the risk minutes, today. zine that is talking about the improb- of this kind of attack will be Mr. JONES of North Carolina, for 5 able. But what we are talking about immensurably lessened because the minutes, today and June 22. here is a very possible, and I think less vulnerable we are, the less likely (The following Member (at her own probable, event. It is something that they are to attack. request) to revise and extend her re- the American people have not been f marks and include extraneous mate- very much aware of. We hope that this rial:) awareness, as the EMP Commission b 2215 Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, for 5 min- continues its work, will be more wide- GENERAL LEAVE utes, today. spread. We hope that the American Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. f people will respond by doing two Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that SENATE BILL REFERRED things: one, demanding that their gov- all Members may have 5 legislative ernment, that their Representative days within which to revise and extend A bill of the Senate of the following make the right kinds of choices and ap- their remarks and include extraneous title was taken from the Speaker’s propriate the right kinds of moneys to material on the subject of the Special table and, under the rule, referred as start on the path to developing a mili- Order today by the distinguished gen- follows: tary that is immune to EMP attacks tlewoman from California (Ms. WA- S. 1282. An act to amend the Communica- and to, as quickly as possible, develop tions Satellite Act of 1962 to strike the TERS). a national infrastructure that will not The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. eprivatization criteria for INTELSAT sepa- rated entities, remove certain restrictions on collapse like a house of cards with an FITZPATRICK of Pennsylvania). Is there EMP attack. And, also, I believe that separated and successor entities to objection to the request of the gentle- INTELSAT, and for other purposes; to the our citizens will demand that we tell woman from Texas? Committee on Energy and Commerce. them what they can do. There was no objection. There is an interesting phenomenon, f f Mr. Speaker. If in anticipation of a BILL PRESENTED TO THE hurricane this fall, one goes to the gro- LEAVE OF ABSENCE PRESIDENT cery store now and stocks up on some By unanimous consent, leave of ab- Jeff Trandahl, Clerk of the House re- things that they need, they are going sence was granted to: ports that on June 21, 2005 he presented to be a patriot because they are im- Mr. LEWIS of Georgia (at the request to the President of the United States, proving the economy. If they wait until of Ms. PELOSI) for today and the bal- for his approval, the following bill. the hurricane is on its way and then ance of the week on account of illness H.R. 483. To designate a United States they go to the store to stock up on in the family. courthouse in Brownsville, Texas, as the what they need, they are no longer a Mr. CARTER (at the request of Mr. ‘‘Reynaldo G. Garza and Filemon B. Vela patriot. They are now a hoarder. So ex- DELAY) for today after noon and June United States Courthouse’’. actly the same act is really a very good 22 on account of official business. f act or a very bad act depending upon Mr. CONAWAY (at the request of Mr. when they do it. If they buy it in long DELAY) for today after 2:30 p.m. and ADJOURNMENT anticipation of the event, they are now June 22 on account of attending the fu- Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. a real patriot. They are providing some neral of a fallen soldier who was killed Speaker, I move that the House do now assurance that they will not be a liabil- in Iraq. adjourn.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:37 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00090 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.167 H21PT1 June 21, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H4895 The motion was agreed to; accord- UEL, Mr. ENGEL, Ms. ESHOO, Mr. H.R. 3005. A bill to amend the Public ingly (at 10 o’clock and 15 minutes EVANS, Mr. FARR, Mr. FATTAH, Mr. Health Service Act to provide for the expan- p.m.), the House adjourned until to- FILNER, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, sion, intensification, and coordination of the morrow, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, at 10 Mr. GONZALEZ, Mr. GORDON, Mr. AL activities of the National Heart, Lung, and GREEN of Texas, Mr. GENE GREEN of Blood Institute with respect to research on a.m. Texas, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. GUTIERREZ, pulmonary hypertension; to the Committee f Mr. HASTINGS of Florida, Mr. HIG- on Energy and Commerce. GINS, Mr. HINCHEY, Mr. HINOJOSA, Mr. By Mr. NADLER (for himself, Mr. EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, HOLDEN, Mr. HOLT, Mr. HONDA, Ms. MEEK of Florida, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Ms. ETC. HOOLEY, Mr. INSLEE, Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. BALDWIN, Mr. SMITH of Washington, Under clause 8 of rule XII, executive JACKSON of Illinois, Ms. JACKSON-LEE Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. ANDREWS, Mr. BER- communications were taken from the of Texas, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON MAN, Mr. MICHAUD, Mr. DELAHUNT, of Texas, Mrs. JONES of Ohio, Mr. Mrs. NAPOLITANO, Mr. CROWLEY, Mr. Speaker’s table and referred as follows: KANJORSKI, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. KEN- ROTHMAN, Mr. ENGEL, Mr. HONDA, Mr. 2428. A letter from the Assistant General NEDY of Rhode Island, Mr. KILDEE, MORAN of Virginia, Mr. HOLT, Mr. Counsel (Banking & Finance), Department of Ms. KILPATRICK of Michigan, Mr. INSLEE, Mr. SANDERS, Mr. TIERNEY, the Treasury, transmitting the Department’s KIND, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. LANGEVIN, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Ms. final rule—Terrorism Risk Insurance Pro- Mr. LARSEN of Washington, Mr. LEE, Mr. BROWN of Ohio, Ms. WOOL- gram: Additional Claims Issues; Insurer Af- LARSON of Connecticut, Ms. LEE, Mr. SEY, Ms. LINDA T. SA´ NCHEZ of Cali- filiates (RIN: 1505–AB09) received June 10, LEVIN, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Ms. ZOE fornia, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Ms. HARMAN, 2005, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the LOFGREN of California, Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. SABO, Mr. FARR, Mr. KOLBE, Mr. Committee on Financial Services. Mr. LYNCH, Mrs. MCCARTHY, Ms. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. ALLEN, f MCCOLLUM of Minnesota, Mr. Mr. SERRANO, Ms. CORRINE BROWN of MCDERMOTT, Mr. MCGOVERN, Ms. Florida, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. PAYNE, REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON MCKINNEY, Mr. MCNULTY, Mrs. Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. MCNULTY, PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS MALONEY, Mr. MARKEY, Ms. MATSUI, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. GONZALEZ, Mr. WAXMAN, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Ms. BERK- Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports of Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. MEEK of Florida, Mr. MEEKS of New York, Mr. LEY, Mr. CAPUANO, Mr. FILNER, Mr. committees were delivered to the Clerk MICHAUD, Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD, PASTOR, Mrs. JONES of Ohio, Mr. RAN- for printing and reference to the proper Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. GEL, Mr. WEINER, Mr. LANTOS, Mr. calendar, as follows: MOLLOHAN, Mr. MOORE of Kansas, Ms. ABERCROMBIE, Ms. ESHOO, Mr. Mr. POMBO: Committee on Resources. MOORE of Wisconsin, Mr. MORAN of PALLONE, Mr. MOORE of Kansas, Mr. H.R. 1492. A bill to provide for the preserva- Kansas, Mr. NADLER, Mrs. SIMMONS, Mr. STARK, Mrs. CAPPS, and tion of the historic confinement sites where NAPOLITANO, Mr. NEAL of Massachu- Mr. SHERMAN): Japanese Americans were detained during setts, Ms. NORTON, Mr. OBERSTAR, H.R. 3006. A bill to amend the Immigration World War II, and for other purposes; with an Mr. OLVER, Mr. OWENS, Mr. PALLONE, and Nationality Act to provide a mechanism amendment (Rept. 109–142). Referred to the Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. PASTOR, Mr. for United States citizens and lawful perma- Committee of the Whole House on the State PAYNE, Mr. PRICE of North Carolina, nent residents to sponsor their permanent of the Union. Mr. RAHALL, Mr. REYES, Mr. ROSS, partners for residence in the United States, Mr. REGULA: Committee on Appropria- Mr. ROTHMAN, Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD, and for other purposes; to the Committee on tions. H.R. 3010. A bill making appropria- Mr. RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. RUSH, Mr. the Judiciary. tions for the Departments of Labor, Health SABO, Ms. LINDA T. SA´ NCHEZ of Cali- By Ms. HART: H.R. 3007. A bill to combat terrorism fi- and Human Services, and Education, and Re- fornia, Ms. LORETTA SANCHEZ of Cali- nancing, and for other purposes; to the Com- lated Agencies for the fiscal year ending Sep- fornia, Mr. SANDERS, Ms. mittee on the Judiciary, and in addition to tember 30, 2006, and for other purposes (Rept. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. SCHIFF, Mr. SCOTT the Committee on International Relations, 109–143). Referred to the Committee of the of Georgia, Mr. SCOTT of Virginia, for a period to be subsequently determined Mr. SERRANO, Mr. SHERMAN, Mr. Whole House on the State of the Union. by the Speaker, in each case for consider- SMITH of Washington, Mr. SNYDER, Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida: ation of such provisions as fall within the ju- Ms. SOLIS, Mr. STARK, Mr. STRICK- Committee on Rules. House Resolution 334. risdiction of the committee concerned. LAND, Mr. STUPAK, Mrs. TAUSCHER, Resolution providing for consideration of the By Mr. COLE of Oklahoma: Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi, Mr. bill (H.R. 2985) making appropriations for the H.R. 3008. A bill to amend part E of title IV THOMPSON of California, Mr. TIERNEY, Legislative Branch for the fiscal year ending of the Social Security Act to provide for the Mr. TOWNS, Mr. UDALL of Colorado, September 30, 2006, and for other purposes making of foster care maintenance payments (Rept. 109–144). Referred to the House Cal- Mr. UDALL of New Mexico, Mr. VAN ´ to private for-profit agencies; to the Com- endar. HOLLEN, Ms. VELAZQUEZ, Ms. mittee on Ways and Means. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, Ms. WATERS, f By Mr. FILNER: Ms. WATSON, Mr. WATT, Mr. WEINER, H.R. 3009. A bill to amend title 38, United PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Mr. WEXLER, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. WU, States Code, to enable veterans to transfer Mr. WYNN, Ms. CARSON, and Mr. Under clause 2 of rule XII, public from a State veterans home in one State to CASE): a State veterans home in another State, on bills and resolutions were introduced H.R. 3003. A bill to establish an inde- a space-available basis, without a waiting and severally referred, as follows: pendent Commission to investigate detainee period with respect to establishment of State By Mr. WAXMAN (for himself, Ms. abuses; to the Committee on Armed Serv- residency; to the Committee on Veterans’ PELOSI, Mr. SKELTON, Mr. HOYER, Mr. ices. Affairs. MENENDEZ, Mr. CLYBURN, Mr. By Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania (for By Mr. AKIN (for himself, Mr. SPRATT, Ms. HARMAN, Mr. LANTOS, himself, Mr. GREEN of Wisconsin, Mr. ADERHOLT, Mr. BARRETT of South Mr. MURTHA, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. DIN- CHOCOLA, Mr. HAYES, Mr. REYNOLDS, Carolina, Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland, GELL, Mr. OBEY, Mr. RANGEL, Ms. Mr. PLATTS, Mr. WICKER, Mr. NOR- Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. BISHOP of SLAUGHTER, Mr. ABERCROMBIE, Mr. WOOD, Mr. GERLACH, Mr. UPTON, Mr. Utah, Mr. BLUNT, Mr. BRADY of ACKERMAN, Mr. ALLEN, Mr. ANDREWS, EHLERS, Mr. SHERMAN, Mr. SHUSTER, Texas, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. Mr. BACA, Ms. BALDWIN, Mr. BECER- Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. ETHERIDGE, Mr. CANTOR, Mr. CHABOT, Mr. CRENSHAW, RA, Ms. BERKLEY, Mr. BERMAN, Mr. MCHUGH, Mr. WALSH, Mr. GILLMOR, Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia, Mr. BISHOP of Georgia, Mr. BISHOP of New Mr. GOODLATTE, Mr. MURPHY, and Mr. FEENEY, Mr. FERGUSON, Mr. York, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. BOU- DOYLE): FORTENBERRY, Ms. FOXX, Mr. FRANKS CHER, Mr. BRADY of Pennsylvania, H.R. 3004. A bill to require the Secretary of of Arizona, Mr. GARRETT of New Jer- Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida, Mr. the Treasury to analyze and report on the sey, Mr. GOODE, Mr. GRAVES, Mr. BROWN of Ohio, Mr. BUTTERFIELD, exchange rate policies of the People’s Repub- HAYES, Mr. HENSARLING, Mr. HERGER, Mrs. CAPPS, Mr. CAPUANO, Mr. lic of China, and to require that additional Mr. HOEKSTRA, Mr. HOSTETTLER, Mr. CARDIN, Mr. CARDOZA, Mr. CARNAHAN, tariffs be imposed on products of that coun- INGLIS of South Carolina, Mr. ISTOOK, Mr. CLAY, Mr. CLEAVER, Mr. COOPER, try on the basis of the rate of manipulation Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. JONES Mr. COSTELLO, Mr. CROWLEY, Mr. by that country of the rate of exchange be- of North Carolina, Mr. JEFFERSON, CUMMINGS, Mr. DAVIS of Alabama, tween the currency of that country and the Mr. KENNEDY of Minnesota, Mr. Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. DAVIS of United States dollar; to the Committee on MACK, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. MCCAUL of Florida, Mrs. DAVIS of California, Mr. Ways and Means. Texas, Mr. MCHENRY, Mr. MILLER of DEFAZIO, Ms. DEGETTE, Mr. By Mr. BRADY of Texas (for himself, Florida, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Mrs. DELAHUNT, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. DICKS, Mr. LANTOS, Mr. BLUNT, and Mr. MYRICK, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. NOR- Mr. DOGGETT, Mr. DOYLE, Mr. EMAN- HOYER): WOOD, Mr. OTTER, Mr. PAUL, Mr.

VerDate Aug 04 2004 03:37 Jun 22, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00091 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K21JN7.173 H21PT1 H4896 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 21, 2005 PEARCE, Mr. PENCE, Mr. PITTS, Mr. ADDITIONAL SPONSORS H.R. 1952: Mr. FITZPATRICK of Pennsylvania RENZI, Mr. RYUN of Kansas, Mr. SES- and Mr. PRICE of Georgia. Under clause 7 of rule XII, sponsors SIONS, Mr. SHADEGG, Mr. SHIMKUS, H.R. 1973: Mr. SMITH of Washington and Mr. Mr. SMITH of New Jersey, Mr. were added to public bills and resolu- OWENS. SOUDER, Mr. STEARNS, Mr. SULLIVAN, tions as follows: H.R. 2051: Mr. WILSON of South Carolina. Mr. TIAHRT, Mr. WAMP, Mr. WELDON H.R. 23: Mr. PICKERING and Mr. CANNON. H.R. 2071: Mr. WEXLER and Mr. BRADY of of Florida, Mr. WHITFIELD, Mr. WICK- H.R. 47: Mr. JINDAL and Mr. PICKERING. Pennsylvania. ER, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, H.R. 69: Mr. PICKERING. H.R. 2193: Mr. FOSSELLA. and Mr. SODREL): H.R. 111: Mr. STUPAK and Mr. DELAHUNT. H.R. 2209: Mr. KUHL of New York. H.R. 3011. A bill to establish certain re- H.R. 147: Mr. KIRK. H.R. 2238: Mr. TERRY, Mr. INSLEE, and Mr. quirements relating to the provision of serv- H.R. 156: Mr. TOWNS, Mr. UDALL of New STARK. ices to minors by family planning projects Mexico, and Mr. SHERMAN. H.R. 2308: Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. under title X of the Public Health Service H.R. 478: Mr. PASCRELL. H.R. 2327: Ms. WATERS, Mr. SALAZAR, and Act; to the Committee on Energy and Com- H.R. 557: Mr. CANNON. Mr. CROWLEY. ICKERING merce. H.R. 558: Mr. P . H.R. 2389: Mr. DEAL of Georgia. H.R. 565: Mr. ISRAEL. By Mr. ANDREWS: H.R. 2423: Mr. HOLDEN and Mr. WALSH. H.R. 594: Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. H.R. 3012. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- H.R. 2456: Mr. CONYERS, Mr. OWENS, Mr. H.R. 595: Mr. SCOTT of Georgia. enue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross in- MCDERMOTT, Mr. GRIJALVA, Ms. WOOLSEY, H.R. 687: Mr. MURPHY. come health care subsidy payments made to Mr. CROWLEY, Mr. CUMMINGS, and Mr. H.R. 689: Mr. PICKERING. employers by local governments on behalf of SERRANO. H.R. 698: Mr. SULLIVAN. volunteer firefighters; to the Committee on H.R. 2498: Mr. SHIMKUS, Mr. KUHL of New Ways and Means. H.R. 709: Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. H.R. 759: Mr. LYNCH. York, and Mr. LEACH. By Mr. DEFAZIO: H.R. 2533: Mr. ORTIZ, Mr. MOORE of Kansas, H.R. 3013. A bill to provide for the disposal H.R. 818: Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida and Ms. BALDWIN. of certain Forest Service administrative and Mr. HONDA. H.R. 2617: Mr. DOYLE, Mr. HINCHEY, Ms. sites in the State of Oregon, and for other H.R. 819: Mr. BRADY of Texas. H.R. 822: Mr. OSBORNE, Mr. SNYDER, Mr. WATSON, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Mr. UDALL purposes; to the Committee on Resources. MCGOVERN, and Ms. DEGETTE. of New Mexico, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. CAPUANO, By Mr. HASTINGS of Washington: and Mr. EVANS. H.R. 3014. A bill to amend the Act of Au- H.R. 831: Mr. MCGOVERN and Mr. GUTIER- H.R. 2640: Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas, Mrs. gust 9, 1955, regarding leasing of the Moses REZ. CHRISTENSEN, Mr. RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. Allotments; to the Committee on Resources. H.R. 874: Mr. MCHENRY. H.R. 881: Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts. GRIJALVA, and Mr. WYNN. By Mr. LAHOOD: H.R. 3015. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 897: Mr. KILDEE. H.R. 2680: Mr. KILDEE, Mr. SKELTON, and H.R. 920: Mr. SHUSTER. duty on 2 benzylthio-3-ethyl sulfonyl pyri- Mr. MCDERMOTT. H.R. 934: Mr. DENT. dine; to the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 2682: Mr. FORD. H.R. 998: Mr. BOEHLERT. H.R. 2730: Mr. MEEK of Florida. By Mr. LAHOOD: H.R. 999: Mr. BISHOP of Georgia. H.R. 3016. A bill to extend the temporary H.R. 2746: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. H.R. 1010: Mr. LINDER. suspension of duty on carbamic acid; to the H.R. 2747: Ms. HARRIS. H.R. 1059: Ms. ESHOO. Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 2793: Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia, H.R. 1105: Mr. LOBIONDO. By Mrs. LOWEY (for herself and Mr. Mr. KLINE, and Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. H.R. 1120: Mr. UDALL of New Mexico. HINCHEY): H.R. 2794: Mr. ROGERS of Kentucky and Ms. H.R. 1132: Mr. BROWN of Ohio, Mr. EMAN- H.R. 3017. A bill to provide certain require- PRYCE of Ohio. UEL, Ms. ESHOO, Mr. BILIRAKIS, and Mr. ments for the licensing of commercial nu- H.R. 2802: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois and Mrs. ENGEL. clear facilities; to the Committee on Energy CHRISTENSEN. H.R. 1175: Mr. HOLT. and Commerce. H.R. 2804: Mr. GILCHREST. H.R. 1188: Mr. SALAZAR, Ms. HARRIS, Mr. By Ms. MOORE of Wisconsin (for her- H.R. 2828: Ms. BERKLEY. UDALL of New Mexico, and Mr. MILLER of H.R. 2834: Mr. GONZALEZ, Mrs. JONES of self, Ms. BALDWIN, Mr. KIND, Mr. Florida. HOLDEN, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. Ohio, and Mr. CASE. H.R. 1245: Ms. DEGETTE, Mr. WALDEN of Or- SABO, Mr. HONDA, and Mr. H.R. 2872: Mr. LEACH, Mr. KINGSTON, Mr. egon, and Ms. MATSUI. MCDERMOTT): ETHERIDGE, Mr. CUMMINGS, Mr. KUHL of New H.R. 1246: Mr. JOHNSON of Illinois, Mr. H.R. 3018. A bill to amend the Hmong Vet- York, Mr. VAN HOLLEN, Mr. BOSWELL, Mr. UDALL of Colorado, Mr. CARNAHAN, Mr. erans’ Naturalization Act of 2000 to elimi- MCDERMOTT, Ms. LEE, Mr. SPRATT, Mr. BEAUPREZ, and Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. nate the application deadlines; to the Com- RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. JEFFER- H.R. 1248: Mr. MCCAUL of Texas. mittee on the Judiciary. SON, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. KENNEDY of Min- H.R. 1272: Mr. EMANUEL. nesota, Mrs. CHRISTENSEN, and Mrs. JONES of By Mr. RAMSTAD (for himself, Mrs. H.R. 1298: Mr. RANGEL, Mr. THOMPSON of OHNSON ANGEL Ohio. J of Connecticut, Mr. R , California, and Mr. RAMSTAD. H.R. 2876: Mr. LARSON of Connecticut, Mr. Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania, Mr. H.R. 1337: Mr. MCCOTTER and Mr. GILLMOR. COSTA, Mrs. WILSON of New Mexico, Mrs. HAYWORTH, Mr. REYNOLDS, Mr. H.R. 1345: Mr. HULSHOF. MCCARTHY, and Mr. SESSIONS. HULSHOF, Mr. POMEROY, Mrs. JONES H.R. 1370: Mr. YOUNG of Alaska and Mr. H.R. 2877: Mr. COOPER and Mr. MCNULTY. of Ohio, and Mr. MCNULTY): SESSIONS. H.R. 2891: Mr. OWENS, Mr. UDALL of Colo- H.R. 3019. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- H.R. 1402: Mr. MCNULTY. rado, and Mrs. JONES of Ohio. enue Code of 1986 to permit the consolidation H.R. 1449: Mr. MCCAUL of Texas. H.R. 2959: Mr. GUTIERREZ, Ms. CORRINE of life insurance companies with other com- H.R. 1461: Mr. MCCOTTER and Mr. BROWN of Florida, Mr. STRICKLAND, Mr. panies; to the Committee on Ways and ADERHOLT. UDALL of New Mexico, and Mr. REYES. Means. H.R. 1468: Mr. LEWIS of Georgia and Mr. H.J. Res. 43: Mr. GOODE. By Mr. BISHOP of New York (for him- MCDERMOTT. self and Mr. KING of New York): H.R. 1474: Mr. CLEAVER and Ms. LEE. H.J. Res. 53: Mr. BEAUPREZ, Mr. SCHWARZ of H. Res. 335. A resolution supporting the H.R. 1520: Mr. TERRY. Michigan, Mr. KLINE, Mr. WILSON of South goals and ideals of a National Epidermolysis H.R. 1587: Mr. RYUN of Kansas. Carolina, and Mr. DEAL of Georgia. Bullosa Awareness Week to raise public H.R. 1588: Mrs. MCCARTHY and Mr. PAUL. H.J. Res. 55: Mr. FARR, Ms. MOORE of Wis- awareness and understanding of the disease H.R. 1591: Mr. GUTIERREZ and Mr. SHAYS. consin, Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts, and Mr. and to foster understanding of the impact of H.R. 1600: Mr. WHITFIELD. LEACH. the disease on patients and their families; to H.R. 1602: Mr. POE and Mr. SCHWARZ of H. Con. Res. 69: Mr. MCCOTTER. the Committee on Energy and Commerce. Michigan. H. Con. Res. 128: Mr. ROHRABACHER and Mr. By Mr. STUPAK (for himself, Mr. H.R. 1607: Mr. FOLEY, Mr. SOUDER, and Mr. BERMAN. BRADY of Texas, Mr. MCNULTY, Mr. MCCOTTER. H. Con. Res. 145: Mr. MANZULLO. SCHIFF, and Mr. ENGEL): H.R. 1615: Mr. VAN HOLLEN, Mr. OWENS, Mr. H. Con. Res. 178: Mr. GOODE, Mr. COBLE, Mr. H. Res. 336. A resolution requesting that GONZALEZ, Mr. LYNCH, Mr. SHERMAN, Ms. KING of New York, Mr. WHITFIELD, Ms. JACK- the President focus appropriate attention on NORTON, Mr. GRIJALVA, and Mr. MCCOTTER. SON-LEE of Texas, Mr. WOLF, and Mr. CASTLE. neighborhood crime prevention and commu- H.R. 1634: Mr. MORAN of Kansas and Mrs. H. Con. Res. 181: Mr. TERRY. nity policing, and coordinate certain Federal DAVIS of California. H. Res. 17: Mr. TOM DAVIS of Virginia, Mr. efforts to participate in ‘‘National Night H.R. 1649: Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. FRELINGHUYSEN, and Mr. BASS. Out’’, which occurs the first Tuesday of Au- H.R. 1696: Mr. FOSSELLA and Mr. DOGGETT. H. Res. 299: Mr. MICHAUD. gust each year, including by supporting local H.R. 1791: Mr. MEEK of Florida. H. Res. 312: Mr. KUHL of New York, Mr. efforts and community watch groups and by H.R. 1816: Mr. CULBERSON, Mr. HENSARLING, NEUGEBAUER, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. UDALL of supporting local officials, to promote com- Mr. PENCE, and Mr. WESTMORELAND. Colorado. munity safety and help provide homeland se- H.R. 1898: Mr. KLINE, Mr. KELLER, and Mr. H. Res. 313: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. curity; to the Committee on the Judiciary. MARCHANT. H. Res. 317: Mr. KIND.

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