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Monday Volume 505 8 February 2010 No. 39 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Monday 8 February 2010 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2010 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Parliamentary Click-Use Licence, available online through the Office of Public Sector Information website at www.opsi.gov.uk/click-use/ Enquiries to the Office of Public Sector Information, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU; e-mail: [email protected] 603 8 FEBRUARY 2010 604 Alan Johnson: Yes, I spoke to Professor Les Iversen, House of Commons the new chair of the ACMD, last week. This is a priority for the council—an absolute priority. It expects to receive Monday 8 February 2010 the advice on 22 February. Thereafter, it expects to make a decision in early March. It is a priority and the council is moving as quickly as it can, consistent—this The House met at half-past Two o’clock is the point I made earlier—with trying to ensure that it deals not only with mephedrone, but the whole generic group, so we will not be fooled by the manufacturers’ PRAYERS shifting around. [MR.SPEAKER in the Chair] Dr. Brian Iddon (Bolton, South-East) (Lab): As we consider substances in the cathinone group of chemicals— that includes khat, by the way, which is used by people from the horn of Africa—is there not a danger that, as Oral Answers to Questions we put more and more substances into the ABC classification, we merely displace the problem? There is an endless list of chemicals and natural products that chemists can supply on to the market. Is there not also a HOME DEPARTMENT danger of displacing illicit drug users to using products in the legal market? The Secretary of State was asked— Alan Johnson: I accept that there may be a danger. Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs That is why the ACMD is composed not only of scientists, but of others, including police officers, others from law 1. Mr. Robert Goodwill (Scarborough and Whitby) enforcement agencies and so on. It is very important (Con): What recent advice he has received from the that I take the council’s advice, and its advice will be Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs on drugs much wider than just the classification; it will also look which cause so-called legal highs. [315829] at the kind of issues that my hon. Friend raises. 7. Mr. David Jones (Clwyd, West) (Con): What recent James Brokenshire (Hornchurch) (Con): Professor advice he has received from the Advisory Council on Les Iversen, the interim chairman of the ACMD is the Misuse of Drugs on drugs that induce so-called quoted this morning as saying: legal highs. [315835] “It is a quite scary scenario” The Secretary of State for the Home Department that schoolchildren can buy legal highs such as mephedrone (Alan Johnson): In March last year, my predecessor over the internet and take them freely. Professor Iversen commissioned the ACMD to provide advice on so-called wrote to the Home Secretary on 22 December advising legal highs or new psychoactive drugs. Following receipt that the selling of mephedrone in a form for which it is of the council’s advice, we have banned a number of clearly unintended, as we have heard, substances, including synthetic cannabinoids, such as “could have serious public health implications”. Spice, benzylpiperazine and gamma-butyrolactone—BZP and GBL respectively. As a priority, I am now expecting What action have the Government taken in response to advice from the ACMD on the cathinone group of Professor Iverson’s advice? drugs, including mephedrone. Alan Johnson: Professor Iversen’s advice is in the Mr. Goodwill: Does the Home Secretary share my context of the work of the ACMD. His letter to me on concern that the purveyors of those pernicious preparations 22 December pointed out that that is why this matter is can often be one step ahead of the authorities, either by the council’s priority. We will receive its advice and reformulating the molecules slightly or by marketing guidance before we take action. That is the correct them as, for example, plant food? sequence of events. Alan Johnson: I do. That is why it is very important to get a generic classification, so that we can cover whole Student Visas (Fraud) areas and not allow the manufacturers of those drugs to shift around. We can actually make illegal a whole range and classification of those drugs. 2. David T.C. Davies (Monmouth) (Con): What steps he is taking to reduce levels of fraud in relation to Mr. David Jones: There is growing concern in north student visas. [315830] Wales over the increasing use of mephedrone, which as the Secretary of State knows is a substance related to The Minister for Borders and Immigration (Mr. Phil ecstasy, and which is readily available on the internet, Woolas): We introduced the points-based system where it is marketed as plant food. Children as young as for students in March 2009. We estimate that around 14 years old are reported to be using it. He mentioned 2,000 colleges have ceased offering courses to overseas that he is expecting a report from the ACMD on the students as a result. Our review of tier 4 is aimed to group of substances that includes mephedrone, but can close down the consequential attempts to gain entry to he say when he expects to receive it? the UK for non-student purposes. 605 Oral Answers8 FEBRUARY 2010 Oral Answers 606 David T.C. Davies: Apart from language schools, ask him to support the Government in this endeavour, colleges offering legitimate degree courses and other otherwise he will rightly be accused of being more courses would be expected to have a high proportion of interested in criticising us than in providing an immigration British nationals. The Home Secretary and his Ministers system. We closed down the bogus colleges—around can almost certainly find many dubious, bogus colleges 2,000 of them—but there are attempts by some with simply by investigating those with a surprisingly high bad intentions towards our country to get around that, number of foreign national students on their rolls. Why so we have had to review that again. will they not do so? Criminal Offences (Repeal) Mr. Woolas: We have done so, and we continue to do so. As I said, we estimate that around 2,000 colleges 3. Norman Baker (Lewes) (LD): What plans he has to have had to withdraw courses for overseas students or identify criminal offences that might be repealed. close. Previously there was not a sponsored licence [315831] system. The great advantage of the points-based system is that we can now hold not just the student to account, The Minister for Policing, Crime and Counter-Terrorism but the sponsor too. (Mr. David Hanson): The Government keep all legislation under review. Rob Marris (Wolverhampton, South-West) (Lab): My understanding is that across the subcontinent, in places Norman Baker: I am most grateful for that thorough such as Chandigarh, Jalandhar, Nepal and New Delhi, answer, but may I point out to the Minister that in the the UK Border Agency has temporarily ceased processing 19 criminal justice Acts introduced since 1997, 68 sections tier 4 student applications because of the huge volume and 25 schedules have not yet been fully implemented, of work. When will reprocessing recommence? and that of the thousands of new criminal offences that Mr. Woolas: My hon. Friend is right. Precisely because have been introduced, many are ludicrous or unnecessary, we have the new system, we can monitor where we think such as offering for sale a game bird killed on Christmas there might be abuse. We have had to suspend tier 4 day? When are the Government going to stop their applications in three such posts. We will reopen those knee-jerk reaction every time a problem arises—saying posts for applications as soon as possible, and we intend that a new law is required—and have a policy of removing to lay out the findings of the new review as soon as unwanted and unnecessary legislation? possible. Mr. Hanson: I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for Chris Grayling (Epsom and Ewell) (Con): Back in reminding us of the number of criminal justice Acts November, the Minister said: that this Government have introduced. Perhaps he would include among the pieces of legislation that he would “We have clamped down on student visas now and we have a wish us to review the Criminal Justice Act 2003, which much better system.” allows new evidence for serious crimes, and introduces What has changed since then? new sentences for murder, sexual and violent offences, and DNA fingerprints, bringing 37 killers and 90 rapists Mr. Woolas: The hon. Gentleman is quick to criticise to justice, or the Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003, which the points-based system. It is precisely because we can gives the power to close crack houses. The Liberals close down the bogus colleges, by having the sponsored voted against both Bills at Third Reading. I am sure licence system, that people who wish to abuse our that the hon. Gentleman would find a way to remove hospitality then look for other methods to gain entry many of those provisions, because ultimately the record into the United Kingdom. He should know that controlling shows that the Liberals have been soft on crime. the borders is a constant campaign against those who wish to abuse our system.