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Continue UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tower 1. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here. SEIGENTHALER: It's 6:45 a.m. at Stateville Correctional Center. Officers are preparing for their day at 7am to 3am. Over the next eight hours, 400 corrections officers will shrug off more than 2,600 inmates. Before most prisoners wake up, people and mechanisms whose sole purpose is to ensure the safety of prisoners begin their daily lives. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have nine (unintelligible) coming their way. Officer MICHAEL WHITE, CORRECTIONAL CENTER STATEVILLE: Ten or four. SEIGENTHALER: Officer Michael White's responsibility is to stand guard in Tower 14, from which he sees the entire northeast corner of Stateville. He has been working for more than five years. You have to be serious, serious about it. It's very easy to get kind of weak here, you know, because, you know, you're dealing with people and you're dealing with guys really trying to carry you down and find a weakness in you. You know, I'd say a serious, serious prison, you know? SEIGENTHALER: Even as whites stand a vigil, the day also begins for some new arrivals to prison. Many of them end up spending more time here than most guards would in their careers. Passing through the first of many external gates, there is no doubt about this for a minimum or medium level of facility security. Stateville's reputation is well known. OMNI WALTON, INMATE, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: From what I hear, people kill each other and things like that. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) guys are doing life and stuff down (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and- I hear a lot of bad things about it (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Kind of scary because you're going to be here and you see it all like, maximum security and the like. So I'm going to stay in myself, man, hope for the best, let me get (UNINTELLIGIBLE) here. SEIGENTHALER: Prisoner Walton and Officer White make up the opposite ends of Stateville. White will spend eight hours in his tower. Once Walton is processed in the system, he will join his fellow inmates who spend more than 20 hours each day in their cells. The relationship between the guards, the prisoners and the prison in which they both live is more than 75 years old. Construction here began in 1916, and the prison opened in 1925. It was different from any other prison in the world. The circular cell phone houses revolved around and connected through the tunnels to the huge central dining room. Today, one of the original cell houses remains the only one of its kind in the country. Stepping into it conjures up images of gladiators, entering the Colosseum. CARRIN HUNTER, CELL HOUSE SUPERINTENDENT, STATEVILLE: It's very helpful because basically you can stand in one place and get the whole house cage. You can also watch the officers on the gallery floor, not just just tower, but anyone in the house can see if something goes wrong. So, you know, I'm glad it's a round house. I love it. SEIGENTHALER: The original design, however, proved difficult to maintain and was subsequently replaced. One of the few remaining original buildings is this rectangular cell building, the longest such structure in the world. Thirty-three feet high concrete walls surround 64 acres that make up the entire prison. Looking through the establishment, it is gray, desolate and foreboding. SERGIO GOMES, KUAMER, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: I grew up hearing how those old time from talking about being here made it sound, you know how cool you were to be here. But I went down here, it wasn't - it wasn't something like that. It's all mixed up. Dude, it's all going to get mixed up! It sucks. SEIGENTHALER: Stateville has long been home to some of Illinois' most violent criminals. The vast majority of prisoners are in for murder or violent assault. JOHN JOHNSON, INMATE, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: It's hard, man. I mean, prison isn't good, you know? It doesn't sound like the fault of the state, you know? You're living a criminal life, that's where you're going to come to life. SEIGENTHALER: Stateville has posted its fair share of notorious criminals. John Wayne Gacy, convicted of killing 33 young men and boys in the late 1970s, and Richard Speck, convicted of killing eight nursing students in 1966, were sentenced to death in a Stateville execution chamber. Speck died of a heart attack in 1991. Gasi was executed by lethal injection in 1994. The last execution in Stateville took place in 1998. Since then, all executions in Illinois have taken place in another high-security facility. Until it is demolished, The Stateville Death Chamber remains fully operational as a backup system. With such a high concentration of violent offenders among inmates, it is only natural that violence will continue within the walls of Stateville. Over the years, there have been a number of incidents that are still reflected in the old days. JAMES FILES, INMATE, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: In the old days we had quite a bit of violence here. When you got up in the morning, you'd take a couple of magazines (ph) to tape them to your chest or back and you'd go out and you'd be wearing a shank with you wherever you went because you didn't know what was going to happen, who you were going to fight. There were always problems. OFFICER CHARLES FLETCHER, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: I've been here for 11 years now, and most of the holes you see around us are mine (f). I saw (unintelligible) beat. I've seen prisoners killed. I saw them stabbed. I saw bloody fights here. SEIGENTHALER: One person who knows better than most Captain Kenneth Morgan. He has worked here for more than 28 years. He saw the violent potential of prison at its worst. CAPT. KENNETH MORGAN, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: We had a lot of problems with gangs here in Stateville, with a shank, an attack and a stabbing, an attack on other inmates. We had an officer named Officer Kush, probably one of the best officers I've ever known. He was returning from Chow Chow, returning to G-dorm, and on his way back there were a couple of prisoners. They were hiding, and they were waiting for him. And they hit him in the head in the area right here, and they dumped his body right here. Here they dumped the body. SEIGENTHALER: Officer Kush has been one of eight Stateville officers to lose their lives in prison violence since the prison opened in 1925. For many, violence was accepted as a way of life in a maximum security prison. But for others it was a shocking and disturbing realization that the prisoners had too much power. This also applies to a young corrections officer who occasionally tours Stateville. WARDEN KENNETH BRILEY, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: It was a very dangerous place not only for staff but also for prisoners. There just really wasn't very much control in Stateville. I remember when they took one of the houses and they set it on fire and times that they were holding hostages. SEIGENTHALER: Things may have remained the same in Stateville until something happened that couldn't be tolerated, something that shocked the entire nation and forced Stateville to undergo sweeping reforms. Let's get up: the exploits of a mass murderer in Stateville spark mass prison reform. This is next on Lockup. (END OF VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (START OF THE VIDEOTAPE) CAMPBELL CLAYTON, INCIDENT, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: You know, I regret what happened in the past. But I mean, it's not for nothing. You know, it brought me here at a young age. He told me a lot, opened his eyes a little more. So get out there and try to do what's right for my little son and all that. SEIGENTHALER: By the early 1990s, Stateville was one of the wildest and most violent prisons in the country. It was a difficult place for both correctional officers and inmates. All of Chicago's most powerful gangs thrived here, continuing the same business for which they were arrested outside. The strong preyed on the weak. FILES: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) You were just fighting for your own territorial rights, and you fought for what was yours and for what you bought and didn't let anyone take anything away from you. WHITE: It was almost like a question mark whether you really wanted to come sometimes. You know, it was a little wild, a little less restrictive, traffic and SEIGENTHALER: And then, in 1995, the whole world was tearing up how wild Stateville was. A video has surfaced detailing Richard Speck's prison exploits. Filmed by other inmates, the video included scenes in which Speck and his lover had sex and snorted what appeared to be cocaine. Illinois lawmakers said the records confirmed long-standing rumors of gross misconduct in the state's prison system. Prison officials stated that it was an aberration and that it pointed to the difficulties involved in trying to control thousands of prisoners, with only hundreds of guards. The dust caused by the tapes demanded an answer. DONAL SNYDER, DIR., ILLINOIS DEPT. OF CORRECTIONS 1999-2003: What Speck Tape did is enlighten the public about what's going on for not only the Illinois Department of Corrections, but corrections across the country. And the public demanded that change take place. The behavior that made them work in prison, we should not tolerate this, with the same behavior, why they are incarcerated with us. SEIGENTHALER: Changing the way things were done for decades wasn't easy, but it had to happen. That was the mandate. The first step was to level the playing field. You hear this thing, power in numbers, and it really is. You've put together 150 or 200 Class X killers in a room together, and that's a great strength. You take that number down and knock it down to 50 and you put a couple of extra officers out there and it's really kind of balancing things. SEIGENTHALER: Today, wherever you look in Stateville, there are rarely more than 50 inmates together. Often there are fewer of them. Unlike many other prisons across the country, where hundreds of inmates gather in Stateville, whether in prison yards, canteens or anywhere else, the prison population is always limited. The same restrictions apply at any time when prisoners move from one area of the prison to another. In the past, we moved 200,300 inmates at a time. Now it's no more than 50 inmates at a time, whether it's chow or they're going into the yard. That's only 50 prisoners. SEIGENTHALER: The second component of Stateville's institutional reforms is to limit the amount of personal property a prisoner may have. It happened in the form of two boxes of real estate. Everything the prisoner wants to keep in his cell, except for fans, televisions and radios, should fit in his property boxes. BRILEY: Before the real estate box, the prisoners really kind of unlimited amounts of property. When you have an excessive amount of property, when you have, when officers have to look for cells, it becomes very difficult because the more property you have, the more places there are to hide the contraband. SEIGENTHALER: Accidental shake-up much less contraband than before. RODNEY STEWART, HOME INVESTIGATOR, STATEVILLE: Gun recovery has declined significantly. At one time I found 125 weapons in one cache. Now we find one or two or three, and it's rare when we find them. SEIGENTHALER: The third big reform completely changed the personal appearance of prisoners. Today, all inmates in Stateville are given the same standard clothing. Just a few years ago, fashion statements were completely different. BRILEY: You'll see, you know, a very branded type of clothing. It's a status symbol inside the prison about how much power you really have. The gang leaders had these articles. We took it and put the inmates in correctional facilities with blue pants and blue shirts and T-shirts and made everyone look the same. When you make everyone look the same, it takes away that status. SEIGENTHALER: The reforms didn't happen overnight, but they happened. The administration held the key card. If inmates do not walk the line, if there are any signs of trouble, the entire prison will be closed, provided that the inmates do not leave their cells, period except for medical care or a parole hearing. Locks are commonplace in Stateville. Gomez: We go to locking near every week when something happens, you know? You're here with a bunch of murderers, rapists, something's going on, you know, you're going to go into the yard, someone's fighting, they're locking us up. You go to the shower, and someone fights, they lock us up. It's changed from the way it used to be, you know, people get killed, raped, and so on. Now they have a penitentiary, so it's not quite like it used to be. SEIGENTHALER: Inmates and staff agree that reforms make Stateville much safer. What they disagree on is the price the prisoners had to pay. This is next on MSNBC's Lockup: Stateville. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (START OF THE VIDEOTAPE) SEIGENTHALER: Often, Stateville seems deserted. Only the constantly present guards in their towers are broken into a lifeless landscape. The deserted atmosphere is a direct result of the institutional reforms implemented here in the mid-1990s. Before that, hundreds of prisoners filled the grounds, worked in yards and carried out various programs. Today, the vast majority of prisoners spend most of their day in their cells. JOSEPH MOORE, INMATE, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: It's depression. It's a real depression. It's depressing. But I try to stay focused. I always try to keep a prospectus of hope, because without hope, you're crazy here. SEIGENTHALER: Here life means spending more than 20 hours a day in a 7 by 10-foot cell. The only regular time-out hour of exercise in the yard is five days a week and hour for lunch and dinner. Most prisoners spend their days at the tv, reading and sleeping. DIANA COLEMAN, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: You have capitalization, commas... SEIGENTHALER: Stateville has a sanctioned adult education program where inmates can work toward their GED, or degree equivalency degree. I think you've had plenty of time with this paper. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No (UNINTELLIGIBLE) COLEMAN: Hello! SEIGENTHALER: Any prisoner who does not pass a standardized test must attend classes for 90 days. They can leave the program in 90 days, even if they continue to fail the test. Remember, I said I wanted my full sentences. Ok. You know I'm watching. Ok? As they get older and as they get locked up and find out they are at a standstill, they tend to want to get an education because they feel that way out. Are you ready for book two? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. SEIGENTHALER: It's a brief escape, 90 days of classes runs fast. For those prisoners who have been here long enough to remember when things were different, time feels especially difficult. GREGORY MACON, INMATE, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: We HAD programs. We had college. We had events. We had music programs. Gregory Macon is serving 40 years for murder. He has been working at Stateville since 1985. He remembers when the prison regularly held theatrical and musical performances, which took place here, in a long-abandoned prison hall. MACON: The music program was a great award-winning thing because, in fact, we would have competition with other prisons. And Stateville has always been No.1. It's like a cage waiting to be executed, because a man has nothing to do. There's no programs or anything. So you just like-you just sit here like a commodity, you know how to pricetag on your forehead and do nothing. ROBERT ROSS, INMATE, STATEVILLE CORRECTIONAL CENTER: Rehabilitation? What is this? What is this? They erased it from the dictionary here. There is no rehabilitation. It's not about rehab, it's about money. It's all about the money. If they can save the room, if they can keep the room on you and keep you here, they get their check and that's it. This is a new cattle drive. BREY: This is not a place where we want to do services for prisoners to get their reintegration back into society. Stateville is the wrong place. We don't have all these things to offer here. Stateville is the place to come and lock up. SEIGENTHALER: Standing locked up doesn't give a person many options. Anger is often the result. Dealing with this constant anger is one of the biggest problems for employees Medical technician Mike Borkowski has worked here for almost 17 years. MICHAEL BORKOWSKI, MEDICAL TECHNICIAN, STATEVILLE: It's a completely different world outside. It takes a long time to get used to it because you're being lied to. You're called every name in the book. And you put it aside. Sometimes, even these days, it's hard to do when you're called names after 16 years. You're just trying to be a bit professional and move on. And sometimes it can be very difficult. MARJORIE RONZONE, SOCIAL WORKER, STATEVILLE: So, recovery? Keith, do you have something to say? KEITH BARNET, INMATE, STATEVILLE: As for the cycles of anger, well, I am, that's my problem. My biggest problem is the anger in me. SEIGENTHALER: Of the more than 2,600 inmates, some are eligible and volunteer to participate in prison one possibility therapy, a group that meets once a week. I'm angry because I'm locked up. I'm angry because I'm not with my family, my kids. I can't do what I want. They tell me when they have. They tell me when to sleep. They tell me when I can go and when I can't. So it's a whole cycle for me there. RONSON: And you're angry not only at what happened to you (UNINTELLIGIBLE) other people have done to you, but have you ever get angry at some of your own decisions? Did you ever say to yourself, how could I do that? Why would I do that? SEIGENTHALER: These people have a chance to get some insight into their behavior. They are a rare exception in Stateville. Illinois corrections officials say there are still many programs available in other state prisons. They emphasize that Stateville is reserved for its most hardened criminals. When it really comes down, you know you're in jail. You know, I mean, you know, it's certain things they can have, like maybe a few more schools. But you know the guys are getting there and they don't really take it seriously. So I mean, for the most part, no. You know, you're in jail, man. BRILEY: Whether I go to galleries, I talk to inmates and get inmates who say they don't like it in Stateville, I think that's a good thing. We don't want Stateville to be a good place. Stateville is not meant to be a good place. SEIGENTHALER: Stateville is getting an even worse place for inmates who cause problems. We'll see how bad things can get when we get back to Lockup: Stateville. (END OF VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (NEWS BREAK) SEIGENTHALER: After decades of ongoing battles, sometimes bloody between inmates and staff at the Stateville Correctional Center, the reforms have finally brought control of the prison into the hands of the administration. Part those reforms meant the execution of any prison that did not follow the rules and regulations. When the average prisoner spends more than 20 hours a day in a cell, how much worse can it be? We'll find out how we follow one prisoner's problem. (START OF THE VIDEOTAPE) SEIGENTHALER: It's a typical day in Stateville until Superintendent Briley and his staff get a tip from a confidential informant that two inmates have drugs in their cell. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The information that we have is that in these cells, they need to be tested (INAUDIBLE) They smoked. Between the two officers and you and Captain Stegler (ph) in the house, then you guys go, you can get into the cell that way. SEIGENTHALER: Immediately, a team of officers and investigators spring into action. After a quick search, the tip seems to be accurate. A small amount of what looks like marijuana is located. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can see this is how they put it in the radio handle, put it on. For unsuspecting employees, they can walk all day. You can shake the radio down. If you don't look there, you'll never find it. SEIGENTHALER: It's like marijuana. But, of course, it's chemically tested. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: See the purple? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a positive test for THC. BRILEY: Okay. Well, then that's a good option. Now we're going to do a drug test for both of these guys. Hopefully we can talk to them and get them to tell us where he got the stuff from. Good work, guys. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Seven more years. I'M NOT TALKING. SEIGENTHALER: Leading suspect 25-year-old Maurice Wilson, making his second prison sentence, is one 35 years for trespassing and aggravated battery. MORSUS WILSON, KUCHEN: I've always followed the crowd, you know? And I was watching the guys, just wanting to hang out, be popular. Like I said, they're bad guys. So, man, I wanted a bad guy, too. I wanted to be recognized. Hey, when I come, the show stops. And that's what happened, you know? The show stopped because I got out. SEIGENTHALER: Getting popped for a crime inside Stateville means an additional penalty, in Maurice's case, six months in a segregation unit, also known as I House. Here the prisoners are given a difficult time, a time that is added to their sentence. It is also considered a difficult time due to the harsh conditions and tight restrictions that accompany time in I House. Officer Lokita Jr. is one of the correctional officers assigned to the segregation unit. LOKUITA YOUNGER, PRISON OFFICER: Basically, this is where bad people for being very bad at an institution come to be locked up. SEIGENTHALER: Walking through one of the I House chambers quickly shows how different it is from the general Population. This is Stateville's version of a solitary solitary UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you all doing? SEIGENTHALER: Markers pointing to dangerous inmates fill the ward, as do the overwhelming stench. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a strip cell, so they don't have on any clothes or very little clothing. They're. Intestinal movement is everywhere. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fecals apply to everyone. Clean it up every day. Every day, he puts it back. YOUNGER: I think they're just kind of crazy, the kind of prison life that's probably getting to them. SEIGENTHALER: Conditions are not only much harsher than in other house cameras. Prisoners do not go out to a normal yard, dining room, visiting hours or any other privileges. What they get is one yard hour and one shower a week. That's it. This is what the next six months hold for Maurice. It's a penitentiary, it's the real deal. SEIGENTHALER: In addition to the problem of inmates like Maurice, the segregation unit also houses inmates with mental health problems. There's no mental health in Stateville. So until it is determined that the prisoner needs a more comprehensive off site, they are observed here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is an emergency? SEIGENTHALER: This creates daily problems for the staff. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) threats. I'm here because I was attacked. And he says, and I'm going to have Mr. Notella (ph) and Mr. Snyder (ph) and the head of investigations here. I need the media. I am going... UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You want a lot, don't you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, listen. I don't want any problems. I'm having trouble with my camera... I'M NOT TALKING. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Then they didn't hit my door. They didn't hit my door. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I respect that. But I can't live in this cell with this man. I didn't do anything to anyone. I'M NOT TALKING. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes, you did. You did. You're disturbing the peace here. Don't knock on my door. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was threatened. I can't live in that cell. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't yell at me, OK. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not here because I did anything. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't yell at me? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir. Yes sir. It's very hostile. That might bother you. You have to be very strong to work here because, you know, just every day, name call, you know. Just the stress here from dealing with various issues with these prisoners can get to you. SEIGENTHALER: A week later, Maurice has difficulty adapting to the conditions in I House. It's like a box of sweat, man. I've been shaken every day for the last three days. I'm looking old. I didn't shave. I need to wash my in the sink. God, man. That's rude. This type of place break you, man, you know? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One, delta, zero, two. SEIGENTHALER: Maurice's biggest problem is himself. With good behavior, he has a chance to get out in 17 years. But if he continues to be recorded on drug charges and other complaints, he could end up doing all 35. His only real inspiration comes from his family. My wife and kids, you know, they're sticking with me right now. But who knows what will happen in the next 12, 13 years? It hurts, man. It's like, it takes part of my heart, man. It hurts badly without seeing mine (UNINTELLIGIBLE) She tries to educate them as much as they can. But the questions come all the time, Dad, when are you coming home? It's hard, man, to grow up with your kids without a father. No father figure, they end up going out there on the street in search of a father figure, you know? And then they crashed into the wrong crowd, you know? Hey, eventually being here with me, you know? I can only tell them so much, you know? I'm trying to teach them, hey, man, don't get ready here with me. But I'm not there. And it hurts, man. It hurts badly. I sometimes sit and cry, man, because I'm not there with my kids. Yes man. SEIGENTHALER: Under the best of circumstances, Maurice will be 42 years old when he is released. If that's the case, and if he somehow manages to make a life for himself on the street, he'll be one of the few Stateville success stories. Otherwise, he is destined to join most of the men here who will spend the rest of their lives bouncing back and forth between trouble and Stateville. My life is gone, man. You know, I've been here most of my life, you know? It's like my second home. And it's messed up to say it's my second home. But I was a kid. I guess I've been here and I have, you know? SEIGENTHALER: Next, we'll visit one exception to the rule in Stateville, a place that's a small piece of paradise for a few happy model prisoners. This is happening at Lockup: Stateville. (END OF VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (VIDEO) HENRY WALLACE, COMMIEN: It's not a joke, period. It's not a joke. Do you have guys here 17 years with a natural life, 17 years then-I'm talking about 17 years old with a natural life for what? No way. Just because someone looked at it hard or something like that. It's not worth it at all. SEIGENTHALER: The path to the far southwest corner of Stateville is an almost completely derelict area. Many years ago, programs for students flourished here. Prisoners learned to trade hair cutting, lyochem or tailoring. But institutional reforms have been redirected to time, energy and money. On the one hand, trade programs have fallen by the wayside, until today, one last program remains. Stateville Industries produces office furniture, including desks, bookcases and desks. The only men who work here are long-time exemplary prisoners. One of them is William Earl Bassett. Bassett has been in custody since 1963 and has been in Stateville since 1966. He originally served a maximum of 10 years for burglary and forgery at another Illinois prison called Menard. WILLIAM EARL BASSET, INMATE: I had a short parole. The guy was messing with my food in the dining room, you know? And I left and tried to get him, you know? And I got into a prison riot. Three prison guards were killed there at the time. They let meet an electric chair for one of them killing. They said everyone stabbed one lieutenant to death. SEIGENTHALER: In 1972, the U.S. Supreme Court abolished the death penalty. Bassett's sentence was commuted to 150 years with the possibility of parole each year. Although he was repeatedly denied parole, he remains one of Stateville's exemplary inmates. He has worked in the industry department for more than 15 years. Bassett: Now, just make sure to get that in the right place. You know, we have to make it look good. I like it. Well, I like it, well, I'm the guy who likes to stay busy. I can't just lie down. I love working. They call me a workaholic, really. They're going to try to slow me down. DRAGO JUPEVEK, SUPERVISOR: I hire a man as a cleaner. And, slowly, we'll put it at work with various equipment and assemblies and stuff. And I've never had a problem with him. SEIGENTHALER: Bassett and several others are similarly well-behaved, low-risk inmates living in G Dorm. There are no bars or castles on their doors. They have more living space. They have a full bathroom. It's a little piece of heaven compared to the rest of the prison. Bassett: There's so much noise out there. You know, there's only one noise. The guys who come is the first thing they notice. It's going to be so quiet at night. They can't sleep for the first few nights. They're used to all this noise. SEIGENTHALER: Bassett has lived much more than half his life in prison. He missed his chance to have a normal life, a career, a family. He finished at the best position he could be at Stateville. Now all that's left is to hope that one day, soon, he'll make it outside. Bassett: It's a wasted life, you know? I look back. I know I was young and wild. And if I had to do it first, there were a lot of things I would change. But I can't do that. I think I'm ready for society now, after all these years. I got in 37 1/2 years. I still have four brothers and my son and Grandson. My son has his own business in St. Louis. He wants me to come and live with him. He said he'd give me a decent job. I can stay with him. I've got a pretty clean record now, you know? And as you get older, you slow down. You don't think about anything, but just go out there and get to know your son and grandson again and chilling. SEIGENTHALER: William Earl Bassett will soon face a parole board for another chance at freedom. When we return, we will follow one rare and happy Stateville inmate as he spends his final hours in prison preparing to return to his life on the street. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One free man walking. SEIGENTHALER: This is next on Lockup. (END OF VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (VIDEO) MICHAEL WHITE, PRISON OFFICER: Between sports and, you know, the right person, you know, looking at the right people at the right time, you know, just-and by god's mercy, you know what I'm saying, I'm not the wind on the other side of the wall, you know? JAMES ANDREWS, VOLUNTEER CHAPLAIN: Be strong in the Lord. Now, how do you get strong in the lord if you don't get in the book? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Amen. SEIGENTHALER: A well-known saying that emerged during World War II says there are no atheists in the trenches. There's a lot in prison. But many prisoners find solace or escape to God. ANDREWS: I am the new Christian in Christ Jesus. All things in the past (INAUDIBLE) I am the righteous God created in Christ by Jesus. You need to know who you are. DANIEL HENNEY, INMATE: God gives you solace in your heart, whereas no other person in this world can ever give you. He's our father. He created us. Here, it's really rough, you know. Brother Anderson (ph), he helps us day in and day out to cope with our problems. ANDREWS: This service, it was a blessing for them, and it's going to make them. This encouraged them, even though they were incarcerated, which gave them a chance for hope and a new life. Bless you. SEIGENTHALER: Weekly religious service, contemplation, reading, this few opportunities inmates in Stateville should somehow go beyond bars, guards and prison walls. Most of them won't see outside ever again or not for a very long time. But some of them will. This is Neil Bell's last day in his cell in Stateville. Despite one cut in the segregation unit, he is completing a two-year sentence for aggravated battery. As the last hours swiped down, his emotions rattle up. NEIL BELL, INMATE: I'm very worried. I've been waiting a while. Last week is the longest. I'm just ready to go home, be with my family. SEIGENTHALER: Sunrise brings what for everyone else in Stateville will just be another day. But for prisoner Bell, it brings him that KENNETH MORGAN, PRISON CAPTAIN: Are you sleeping last night? I got up at 2:00. MORGAN: I kind of thought that. SEIGENTHALER: Stepping back from his property, taking a last walk through the complex, images outside that have long gone memories of so many prisoners are within Bell's reach. I'm going to spend some time with my dad. And I'll go to my sister's. I need to go to the wedding, my cousin. I'd like to go back to college for computers. I also work on cars and stuff. I can go anyway. Of course, I want these guys to come out and succeed. When these guys are released, we hope we'll never see them again. A large part of them is coming back. Prisoner Bell, I feel like you're not going to see prisoner Bell again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Name and number. Bell, V81872. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Date of birth. BELL: (INAUDIBLE) '78. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One free man walking. SEIGENTHALER: Bell was serving an extremely rare short sentence in Stateville. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) is out. SEIGENTHALER: He's also very young, hopefully young enough to learn from his time here that he definitely doesn't want to come back. Sometimes it's hard. Everyone tends to get in trouble. And you just got to try to keep yourself under from these situations. Okay, Bell, easy. Bell: Okay. SEIGENTHALER: This ability to learn, to change behavior, is not a big part of what Stateville is about. BREY: And I think most of the inmates who are in Stateville today, and most of the inmates who will arrive tomorrow in Stateville, are actually inmates who are outside of this care. These are prisoners who, over the years, have proven over and over and over again in different environments that they simply cannot function. Most people in Stateville are going to stay in Stateville and be here for a long time. Oh, man, it's a bad place. You don't want to be here. Everyone says it's all glamour. All yes, I'm going to come in a joint, it doesn't matter. But once you get here and you see that it's reality, you know you think you're bad. That's not what you think, man. They answer you from your loved ones. Children grow up without you. That's rude. BASSET: I hate even thinking about getting out of here. I would go out and do these last few years anyway that I stayed. And, you know, it could happen anytime here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Father, we just thank you, Lord. And we just bless your holy name. Even though we're in prison, God, you're still a good God. You know, I hope for God, you know how I say someone out there loves me. And I hope they still like me. to let me live, to get out of here. And as I say at church services, we preach and tell them, keep your head up. Keep your faith in God. Believe it, because right now we're in hellish glory right here. It's hellish glory because a person can go no lower than being locked up here for a long time. (END OF VIDEOTAPE) SEIGENTHALER: On the last day of our visit, an inmate in Stateville was killed. Prison officials say he was killed by a cellmate. The prison immediately moved to the no.1 detention centre. It was a sobering reminder that, for all their reforms, Stateville is still a very dangerous place. For MSNBC, I'm John Seigenthaler. THIS IS A TRANSCRIPT OF THE RUSH. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. END Copy: Content and Copyright Programming 2005 MSNBC. 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