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ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ·Starred Questions Nos. 641-642 1-23 WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Starred Questions Nos. 643-660 23-43 Unstarred Questions Nos. 6558-6715 43-155 PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 164-165 MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 166-169 (i) Need to set up an L.P.G. outlet at Sihora Town, district, Jabalpur Madhya Pradesh Shri Shravan Kumar Patel 166 (ii) Need to widen Trivandrum-Kanyakumari National Highway Shri N. Dennis 166 (iii) Need to arrange regular supply of L.P.G. to Pauri Garhwal and Chamoli districts, U.P Maj. Gen. (Retd.) Bhuwan Chandra Khanduri 166-167 (iv) Need to connect suburban areas around Madras with direct dialing system . Shri S.S.R. Rajendra Kumar 167 (v) Need to provide better air services to Arunchal Pradesh Shrt Laeta Umbrey 167-168 (vi) Need tQ. strictly enforce the provision of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act Shri K.T. Vandayar 168 (vii) Need for early construction of gas turbine at Banskandi and Adamtilla, Assam Shri Kabindra Purkayastha 168-169 FINANCE BILL, 1995 Motion to consider Shri Bijoy Krishna Handique 169-174 Prof. Rita Verma 1.74-180 Shri B. Rajaravivarma 180-182 Shri Anadi Charan Das 182-187 Shri Yaima singh Yumnam 187-189 Shri Kalka Das 189-194 Shri R.S. Jeevarathinam 194-200 Shri Amal Datta 200-210 Shri Bheru Lal Meena 211-214 Shri Rameshwar Patidar 214-217 Dr. Mumtaz Ansari 217-221 Shri M. Krishnaswamy 221-224 Shri Syed Shahabuddin 224-230 Shri B. Akber Pasha 231-234 Shri Bhogendra Jha 234-241 Shri Chitta Basu 241-245 Shri Ram Tahal Choudhary 246-247 Kumari Frida Topno 247-250 Shri Ramkrishna Kusmaria 250-252 Shri Harish Narayan Prabhu Zantye 252-255 Shri PC. Thomas 256-258 Prof. Rasa Singh Rawat . ~.258-260
The Sign + marked above the name 01 a Member in COLUMNS STANDING COMMITTEE ON HOME AFFAIRS Eighteenth Report - Laid 230 BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE Fiftieth Report - Presented 231 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA electrification. The State Governments and State Electricity Boards have been requested to accord higher priority and prepare necessary action plans for Monday, May 22, 1995/ Jyaistha " 1917 (Saka) completing electrification of the remaining villages. (The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock) (f) A target of 50,000 villages (Including 10,000 [MR. SPEAKER in the Chaiij remote villages to be eletrlfied through Non-coriventional Energy Sources) has fixed for electrification during the ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Eighth Five Year Pian. . . Rural Electrification ANNEXURE-I + State-Wise Number Of Vii/ages Yet To Be electrified '641. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA As on 31.3.1995 SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA : Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state S.No. States Villages to be electrified as on 1.4.1995 (a) the number of villages not electrified so far, State-wise; 1. Andhra Pradesh 0 (b) whether the Government have made any study 2. Arunachal Pradesh 1108 recently to'assess the Power requirements in rural areas; 3. Assam 494 (c) if so, the details and findings thereof, 4. Bihar 19784 State-wise; 5. Goa 0 (d) the funds allocated for this purpose during 1994-95, State-wise; 6. Gujarat 0 (e) the steps proposed to be taken to provide 7. Haryana 0 electricity to all the villages in the country; and 8. Himachal Pradesh 0 (f) the target fixed for rural electrification in the 9. Jammu & Kashmir 246 Eighth Five Year Pian? 10. Karnataka 0 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 11. Kerala 0 POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI 12. Madhya Pradesh 4114 PATEL): (a) to (f). A Statement is laid on the Table of Maharashtra 0 the House. 13. 14 Manipur 182 STATEMENT 15. Me.ghalaya Q495 16. Mizoram 59 (a) There are 84,750 villages yet to be electrified as 17. Nagaland 13 on 31.03.1995. State-wise details of such villages is at 18. Orissa 13605 (b) Annexure-I 19. Punjab 0 (b) and (c). A separate survey has not been made 5047 . to assess the power requirements In the rural areas. 20. 'Rajasthan However, in the 14th Power Survey Report, which covers 21. Sikkim 0 the requirements of electricity projected at the national 22.. Tamil Nadu 0 level published in March, 1991 by the Central Electricity 23. Tripura 1149 Authrority, an estimate has been made of the energy consumption for pumpsets, tubewells and 11ft irrigation 24. Uttar Pradesh 27546 (a> sche~es for eac~ State and Union Territory upto 1994- 25. West Bengal 8928 95. The projections made in this regard, State-wlse are at Annexure-I/. Total States 84750 (d) The State-wise details of funds allocated for Total UTs 0 rural electrification work In 1994-95 is at Annexure-III. Total AU India 84750 ANNEXURE-II ANNEXURE-III Energy requirement for irritlation pumpsetsiState Statewise Plan allocation for Rural Electrification tubewells and 11ft irrigation for the year 1994-95 as during 1994-95 • projected in the Fourteenth Electric Power Survey (Rs. in crores) (MKWh) S.No. States REC State Grand Pian total S.No. . StatelUT Requirement for Pumpsetsl Lift Irrigation 1. Andhra Pradesh 73.73 20.00 93.73 Tubewells 2. Arunachal Pradesh 5.50 9.00 14.50 3. Assam 1. Andhra Pradesh 7514.82 100.00 7.25 6.00 13.25 4. Bihar 4.75 1.50 6.25 2. Arunachal Pradesh 0.00 0.00 5. Delhi 1.00 0.00 1.00 3. Assam 62.20 0.00 6. Goa 0.25 0.20 0.45 4. Bihar 2503.00 548.00 7. Gujarat 43.82 17.00 60.82 5. Gujarat 7443.11 0.00 8. Haryana 14.16 19.00 33.16 6. Haryana 3765.00 297.00 9. Himachal Pradesh 6.00 3.00 9.00 7. Himachal Pradesh 45.00 0.00 10. Jammu & Kashmir 4.00 4.00 B.OO B. Jammu & Kashmir 168.00 148.00 11. Karnataka 15.00 51.46 66.46 12. Kerala 8.00 7.00 15.00 9. Karnataka 4792.68 84.20 13. Madhya Pradesh 53.00 5.00 58.00 10. Kerala 263.67 0.00 14. Maharashtra 62.54 100.00 162.54 11. Madhya Pradesh 2555.81 0.00 15. Manipur 10.40 0.45 10.B5 12. Maharashtra, 86BB.09 190.47 16. Meghalaya 6.25 0.00 6.25 13. Manipur 6.20 0.00 17. Mizoram 7.70 0.00 7.70 14. Meghalya 1.50 0.00 18. Nagaland 1.50 0.00 1.50 15. Mizoram 0.09 0.00 19. Orissa 25.00 2.00 27.00 16. Nagaland 0.00 0.00 20. Punjab 14.00 20.00 34.00 21. Rajasthan 64.93 41.00 105.93 17. Orissa 400.00 0.00 22. Sikkim 1.00 2.00 3.00 18. Punjab 6583.00 0.00 23. Tamil Nadu 52.82 4.50 57.32 19. 4397.00 Rajasthan 67.00 24. Tripura 11.25 2.00 13.25 20. Sikkim 0.00 0.00 25. Uttar Pradesh 108.00 23.00 131.00 21. Tamil Nadu 4384,45 0.00 26. West Bengal 21.00 4.00 25.00 22. Tripura 24.22 0.00 27. Coop/NMH 32.00 0.00 32.00 23. Uttar Pradesh 9184.00 640.00 Sub-total 654.85 342.11 996.96 24. West Bengal 571.25 0.00 Grant for Kutirjyotl 25. Delhi 36.00 0.00 Programme 5.00 5.00 26. Goa 16.00 0.00 Grand Total 659.85 1001.96 Union Terltor•• [English] 27. Andaman & Nicobar SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : As per the Islands 0.00 0.00 -inJQ!!!Iation available, cumulatively about five lakh be~n 28. Dadara & Nagar Haveli . 0.57 0.00 villages"have electrHled, out of which 2,62,000 Harilan villages also 'have been electrified and out of 29. Daman & Diu 1.27 0.00 1,11,886 tribal villages, 77,000 tribal villages have been 30. Chandigarh 2.20 0.00 electrified. 31. Pondicherry 75.84 . 0.00 My pertinent question on this Information is that 32. Lakahadweep 0.00 0.00 though Government have declared that so many vlHages have been electrified, bU1 once you visit the villages, you will find that most of the vlHages are not electrified Total 63485.00 2075.00 In appropriate manner. 5 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Oral Answers 6 So, I would like to know from the hon. Minister Then there is another point In regard to Andaman whether when the entire village is electrified, it is and Nicobar Islands. I have seen in Annexure-III that no declared electrified or if only in one house in a particular money has been earmarked for this year in respect of' village electricity is received, they declare the entire the Union Territories. They have said this. Only the village has been electrified. States have been provided money. What is the reason , I would also like to know what is the part played by for this? Why has the grant not been provided to the the Central Government in this regard because the State Union Territories also? Th~t is number one. Electricity Boards are particularly responsible for the MR. SPEAKER: By putting too many questions, rural electrification. So, I would like to know from the you do not get the reply. hon. Minister what is the Central Government's role in rural electrification. Is it only there to provide grants to SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : With one sentence, State Electricity Boards or are they also monitoring? I I complete my question. In the Andaman 'and Nicobar would like to know whether the work is done by the Islands, the work is done by the casual labourers. People Central Government in real terms or not. of ten years and 12 years of age are working. I would like to know from the Minister whether he has received SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL : the proposal for creation of 1200 posts in Group '0' Rural electrification is the State programme and it has category. If it is so, what action has been taken in this to be carried out by the State alone. Rural Finance regard? Corporation gives technical assistance and financial support to some extent. MR. SPEAKER: Well, this is all a jumble, going in all directions. I do not know how to get the reply. Regarding the villages electrified, if a line is there and if in a rural village, a house is given one electricity SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Sir, point, then it is considered electrified. this solar Photovoitaic Programme is a new Programme. We have only taken It up on a trial basis. As the hon. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : Is it the whole Member has put It, there are problems and difficulties village? when that instrument has to be repaired. I think with SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: No, proper training and with the advance of time in the it is not a whole village. The definition is that a village development of this technology, we will be able to give should be classified as electrified if electricity has been better results. used within its revenue area for any purpose whatsoever. About the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, the allocation is finalised by the Planning' Commission. So, SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not have anything to comment on that. though I am not favoured by the hon. Minister through the replies to what .1 wanted to say, anyhow I am going SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : All these are also In for my second supplementary. finalised by the Planning Commission. The Minister has already agreed that the majority [Translation] of the remaining unelectrified villages are located in remote, inaccessible and difficult areas requiring heavy SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA : Mr. Speaker, Sir, capital investment for their electrification. Also, in the even after 47 years of India's independence, 85,750 last paragraph o~ the reply, they have set a target of villages have not been electrified so far. India is a 50,000 villages, including 10,000 remote villages to be country of villages. The Government neither have any electrified through Non-conventional Energy Sources. I intention nor a sound policy about the rural would like to state that as far as Npn-conventional energy electrification. Whenever this Issue is raised, the ,Sources are concerned, only In the developed areas responsibility is shifted to the State Governments. they can work. Through my personal experience In MR. SPEAKER : According to the constitutional Andaman and Nicobar Islands, I have seen it that where provision, this question cannot be asked as to who' is the solar energy system has been introduced, the power responsible for rural electrification. is kept in the batteries. Then, once the battery goes out of order, it has to be sent from there to Bangalore for SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I repairing and then, It will come back from Bangalore. In would like to point out that the villages already electrified the -process, it takes three months' time. By that time, remain without electricity for weeks together as a result there Is no electricity available In the villages. so, in of which the farmers and the general pubtic face a lot view of that, I would like to know from the hon. Minister of difficulty. Mr. Speaker, Sir, Initially, the target of power whether he has gone through all the pross and cons, generation was set at 30,000 megawatts· during the whether In the.e Inaccessible 'areas, whether nothing Eighth Five Year Plan but later on, It was acalad down is available and capital Investment is more, what to 20,000 m,gawatts. I would like to know the reasons arrangement of electricity he is going to provide for for It and what Impact It would have on the rural regular .electricity supply. electrlficatlo n? 7 Oral Answers . MAY 22. 1995 Oral . Answers 8 [English] money with the State Governments. Some States have already completed the target of full electrification like SHRIMATI URMllABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: The Maharashtra. But some States have not completed the electricity is in the Concurrent list. So it is the target fully. They have completed about 70 to 80 per responsibility of the States to generate and transfer the cent of the target. you will be surprised to know that electricity. according to the Government Report, the target has MR. SPEAKER : Now Madam, on this, I would be been achieved in every State. But in my State, in my on the side of the Member. As far as electrifying the constituency, which in adjacent to Calcutta, I have not villages is concerned, It is the responsibility of the State seen the villages being electrified. That is why, I want Government. But as far as production of the entire to know from the hon. Minister which are the States in electricity for the nation Is concerned. you have a bigger which rural electrification has not improved at all. Will r.ole to play. the Minister take up the matter with the State Government so that he can finance the State Government for . SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Yes, electrifying the areas as early as possible? Sir, I accept that. But due to financial constraints. the target of 30,000 Mw had to be reduced and it has now SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Yes, come to'20,000 MW. We are trying to cope up with this. Sir. There are 82 per cent of the remaining unelectirifed villages. They are concentrated in the four major Regarding the question of Andaman and Nicobar, States~Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Orissa and West Bengal. I have got the figures now. In Andaman and Nicobar, These States are facing serious financial problems and there are 491 villages and they are all electrified. So are not eager to extend their remunerative programme thefe Is no provision made fOr this year. for village electrification. These States are heavily [Translation] defaulting in paying of the REC dues. That makes it more difficult for the Corporation to release further funds. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: The target of power generation has been reduced to 20,000 megawatts. [Translation] Would it not adversely affect the _target of rural SHRt SHANKERSINH VAGHELA : Government is elactrnlcatlon? giving priority to the private sector in this field. I would MR. SPEAKER : He wants to know whether the like to know the percentage of electricity proposed to . reduction In the power generation will affect the rural be given to the villages out of the power generated in electrification? . the public as well as in the private. sector? Several SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA : What steps are States, including the State of GUjarat, have stated that being takan for mobilising the financial resources? Power 50% of the ppwer generated in these new power II being produced f.rom waste material in many countries ' schemes will be provided to the rural areas. Whether of ttt. world. The power from the waste material is the private sector would be given special subsidy for cheaper' and convenient. Whether the Government of encouraging them to generate power from the non- India also propose to consider on this aspect? conventional energy sources, including the photo-voltaic or other sources in the rural areas, particularly in the MR. SPEAKER : It is a non-conventional energy Andaman Islands and North East Areas so that the .eou~e. villages may get the facility soon? [Engn.h} SHRtMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: The suggestion given by the hon. Member is very good. We SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: This would definitely consider it. Ia .110 • new technology and we are trying to introduce this jn our country. But as far as I know, the power from (English) tfie waste 'is costlier than that from the conventional eMI'VY .oure... That' Ia why, there are some problems. MR. SPEAKER : May I caution the Minister that It beoomes an assurance? MR. SPEAKER : We are doing It also for the gas- . baaed power eJectriclty. SHRIMATt URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: But due to financial constraints, we have to limit our KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE : I am very grateful programme. to you for your saying that you agr&& with the hon. MemtHtr. That II correct. One of the Ministers has sa.1d DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA : Hon. Speaker, Sir, out that It is the ~1bHIty of the State Governments to of 25 States in the country, some villages in 14 States provide electrification In the rural areas. Then the are yet to be electrified. In Annexure-I, what has been Minlater has said that this subject Is In the Concurrent supplied by the hon. Minister in reply Is in comparison llat. You will appreciate that the Central Government to Annexure-II where the State-Wlse allotment has also has got a Corporation through which they can even been shown. Here, you will find, Sir, that these States help the States. Though it i. the duty of the State have completed REC programme. I would like to know Government, yet there Is the problem of constraint of in what manner. Whether It starts with villages, if not aU 9 Oral Answers JYAISTHA " 1917 (Saka) 10 the villages, but the States has completed REC Only one-third is derived from the State programme and it has been shown in the list but Governments. Therefore I would requ.st an mdic:atlon allotment of funds has been shown in respect of those from the hOn. Minister whether they are P'''''- to re- States where it has already been completed. I want to evaluate and review the allocation policy 50 tMt lito•• know what are the criteria for allotment of funds to REC States which have a larger degree of non-..lrIIoation scheme in several States. I would like to know whether should receive a higher degree of the Cen.,.1 lunds the Government is considering cases of yet to be that· are available. ' electrified villages of several States on priority basis for SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATE'L Tne some allotment, either from loan assistance or from allocation of funds is according to the demands of the Central Budget. States. The State Governments finalise their plan and SHRiMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Sir, discuss with the Planning Commission' and the I have already answered that If one point is given, then allocation is made on that line. Discrepancies are there the village is considered to be electrified. That is decided and there are some States which are not so keen to by the Planning Commission and the selection of the take it up and continue this programme. 'So, you will villages also is with 'the Planning Commission, not with see the figures that year' by year their demand is the Department. decreasing. That is also a problem with us. We are MR. SPEAKER: He wants to know the criteria on trying to convince, negotiate with them and discuss with which the funds are given by the Central Govemment them the problems and issues and find out a solution. to the State Governments. ' SHRI A. CHARLES : The answer given to this DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA : Thank you, Sir. question does not reflect the real problem of shortage SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: That of electricity faced either by the villagers or' by the is decided by the Planning Commission. people of the State. Kerala is said to be one of ·the States fully covered. But Kerala Is under the, acute DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA : Sir, it has not been shortage of electricity. 'For several months there is Ioad- properly answered ... (Interruptions) shedding. Small industries are not getting the electricity. SHRI sYED SHAHABUDDIN : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I The voltage is so low ... find that - it is admitted also by the han. Minister - Bihar; MR. SPEAKER : We are not discussing power Orissa, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal, among them, generation. We are discussing electrification of villages. nave nearly 80 per cent of the total number of unelectrified villages. Bihar has roughly 25 per cent of SHRI A. CHARLES : The main question is whether the total; Orissa has roughly 15 per cent of the total; a separate study has been made to assess the power Uttar pradesh has about 35 per cent of the total; and requirement and the answer is, no study has been West Bengal has about 10 per cent of the total. Now, made. That is very unfortunate. May I know from the Sir, I notice a very obvious disparity In the allocation. hon. Minister whether a real study will be made to Bihar is getting against 25 per cent, 0.6 per cent of the assess the power requirements. Technically speaking. aliocation; Orissa against 15 per cent of the number of a village is electrified means there will be only one uneiectrified villages of the country is getting only 2.7 point. That is not enough. The actual requirement may per cent of the allocation; similarly Uttar Pradesh against be assessed and the Electricity Boards may be about 35 per cent of the total number of un electrified coordinated with a time-bound programme be made to viliages in the country is getting 13 per cent of the remove ·the shortage of electricity. aliocation; and West Bengal against 10 per cent is getting only 2.5 per cent. My point is that one of the MR. SPEAKER : Why Is the assessment of the basic objectives of planning Is to reduce the level of requirement of the electricity for rural electrificallon not disparity between one region and the other and even done? within the same State between one district to the other. SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL With That is an accepted, objective of the National regard to any study having been made for power development planning. requirements in the rural areas, we have checked the Therefore, Sir, In terms of allocation 01 resources, positiOn with the Planning Commission ... which are obviously limited, on. has to follow a MR. SPEAKER : No, no. We are not accepting this universal policy - States which have a larger number of stand. unelectrified villages should receive a higher ahare of Central allocation - ao that over a period of time the SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: The disparity in the level of rural electrification In the entlr. Minister of Non Conventional Energy Sources country goes down. It Is of course true that the 'States MR. SPEAKER : No, Madam. The Power Ministry is themselv.s playa role but as you can see. Sir, from the expected to find out what Is the electricity required for figures given here, that more than two-thirds of the rural electrification. resource allocation come. through the Central Government. Yes, the Minister wants to supplement. 11 Oral Answers MAY 22, 1995 Oral Answers 12 THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI N.K.P. SALVE) : electricity. Unfortunately after 48 years of Independence, I want to supplement what ,my colleague has said. It is even the survey has not been made. This shows the true that the entire rural electrification programme is far thinking 01 the Government. And the Power Department's from satisfactory. But it h'as to be appreciated that so far Report on the only survey that has been conducted has as our role is concerned, it is very marginal. We have made only a limited reference about the requirement of some funds aUocated to us which we are supposed to electricity for pump-sets, tube-wells and lift irrigation. give at concessional rate of interest for rural But No survey has been made on the total require,ment electrification. for rural electrification. I would now ask a very specific question. Taking into account that in certain Stat.s more MR. SPEAKER : No, Mr. Minister. than 50 per cent of the villages are not electrlfled, - it SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : If you want me to answer the is not a question of remote or inassessable areas - and question about the study, the study part, unfortunate it that general rural electrification has not taken place on may be, but it is true that no specific study of the rural a large scalll, will the Minister give top priority and sit areas has been undertaken by any of these energy with the State Chief Ministers and the Planning bodies above, including the Ministry of Power. That is Commission to work out a time-bound programme for my submission ... (lnterruptions) rural electrification? SHRI A. CHARLES : We want a study. SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : Sir, so far as the first part of SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : If the power is not adequate the question is concerned, I have already answered :n Kerala in the rural areas, it is a manifestation of the that kind of a study should be undertaken. We will shortage that is there in the States. Southern Indian endeavour our best to sell that such a study is States are writhing in shortages also. undertaken. MR. SPEAKER: The Members and the House would So far as the second part is concerned, my be well within their rights to understand what is the colleague has already pointed tout our serious requirement of the electricity for rural electrification. limitations. We have only routed the funds which come to us from the Government of'lndia and which we borrow. SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : Such a study has not been We give it to the States. And if the States do not return made. the money to us, moneys are not available with us. I am MR. SPEAKER : Why? riot trying to palm off the blame on the States, but I am pointing out the basic institutional difficulties which we SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : But we will take it up. are facing. The Planning Commission formulates the MR. SPEAKER: Thank you. plans and the States implement them .on all concurrent SHRI RAMESHWAR PATIDAR : Mr. Speaker, Sir, subject. We have very little to do with them at the ground after the amendment in the Forest Conservation Act, level, except monitoring. We are only financing. That is 1980, the State Governments cannot undertake the reality. electrification of the forest villages. As you know, the SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV : That is not correct. forest village are inhibited by the tribal population and MR. SPEAKER : The Planning Commission will plan the Forest Departments have built stop dams on. the on the suggestions given by the Power Ministry. rivers and streams at many points but due to non- availability of power, the forest villages are neither able SHRI N,K.P, SALVE : I bow down to what you say to irrigate their fields nor the lightning in their homes. ... (Interruptions) Whether the Central Government propose to amend the MR. SPEAKER : That is not enough. I am sorry. Forest Conservation Act with a view to electrify the When we are discussing these things let us be clear on forest villages? that point please. (English] SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : That Is the limitation of the system under which we working. MR. SPEAKER: I do not think that is a difficulty. If you want to reply, I have no objection. MR. SPEAKER : No. That Is not a limitation. h may be the limitation of the Individual but that Is not the SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: I limitation of the system. think, there is no difficulty in Implementing the suggestion. We will take it up. SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : I want t~ answer the question to your 'satisfactlon, Sir. Maybe, the system Is not SHRI 'CHANDRA JEET YADAV : Sir, , am sorry to satisfactory. if our role in the whole system 18 purely to say that the Government's whole approach about the give ftrlances ... (lnt.rruptlons) power generation and electrification of villages is a matter of concern. Mr. Speaker, as you have rightly MR, SPEAKER: No, that c041d have been done by said, II 18 the national reaponsibllity of the Planning the Finance Ministry al8o, If It were so. Commission, the Government of India and the states SHRI N,K.P. SALVE: But that Is how we are working. altogether to ... that the rural India gets the required That is Jhe system I am working under. 13 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1911 (Sakal Oral Answers 14 MR. SPEAKEA : I know that you are working under as to how many Adivasi villages have been electrified a lot of pressure and paucity of funds but that is not the all oy'er India, specially in Orissa? May I know this from system. the Government? SHAI D. VENKATESWARA RAO : Sir, According to MR. SPEAKER: If you have the information give it the answer given, there are 84.00 and odd villages or you can send it later on also. Which have not yet been electrified. It is true that the SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL power generation is shor' and the funds are also lacking have no information just now about the Adivasi villages. for generation of power. In view of this, the Government I will certainly promise to provide that information. has started privatisation of power generation. The Government has received from various States, to the MR. SPEAKER : I am inclined to give more time to extent of 50,000 MW, MoUs with various parties in the this question because we did not take up the discussion private sector, out of which 23,000 are from Andhra on the Demands for Grants of the Ministry of Power. You Pradesh, 50 and odd from Karnataka and the rest from can be rest assured that you will get the opportunity, the other States. The Government have put a condition provided the question are relevant. that it should be before the 1Bth February, 1995 that [Translation] these MoUs should be signed and sent to the Central Electricity Authority. What happened to these MoUs? SHRI LAL BABU RAI : Mr. Speaker, Sir, as filer the When is the CEA going to give consent to the MoUs information made available, by the hon. Minister, about with the private parties, sent by the State Governments 4 lakh villages have already been electrified. Bihar is to start this project? Is it the only procedure the very backward State where 75 per cent of population is Government is going to adopt? Or, is it going to allow dependent on agriculture and electricity is an important the signing of the MOUs even after the 18th February, ingredient for ensuring agricultural development. During 1995? ... (Interruptions) the year 1984-85, the Congress Party was in power in the State as well as at the Centre. From that year till MR. SPEAKER : I do not think that this comes out date, rural electrification in our villages is limited to of the main question. But if the hon. Minister wants to only installation of electric poles and no wiring has reply, I have no objection. been done. An incorrect report has been sent to the (Interruptions) Central Government about electrification .. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : It is the concern of the State [Translation] Government. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : Mr. Speaker, Sir, all SHRI LAL BABU RAI : Kindly listen to my the small projects are either in the hill areas of are in submission, Sir. the tribal areas in the country as there are a large number of streams flowing there. It has been observed [English] that in other countries' a large number of mini power projects are undertaken. Whether there is any proposal MR. SPEAKER Please come to the question directly. to have mini power projects in our country also and whether any survey has been conducted in this regard? [Translation] Keeping in view the power requirements of the country, whether Government propose to consider applications SHRI LALL BABU RAI : Of course, the State from the private parties for mini power projects cost Rs. Government awards the contracts. But will the hon. 6,0 thousand to As. 1 lakh on each project? Minister ensure the proper electrification of these villages and propose to provide additional assistance SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Mini to the Bihar Government for the purpose? Power Projects costing less than 1 crore of rupees can be undertaken by the State Governments themselves. MA. SPEAKEA : The hon. Minister has already stated that the aliocation of funds is being made {English] according to the demands of the State. SHRI GOVINDA CHANDRA MUNDA : Sir, there are [English] 50 lakh villages in India and there are 25 States in india, shall I call them 'Provinces'? There are so many MR. SPEAKER: Let us not waste the time. villages in the rural areas and also in the urban areas. SHAI UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD : In Maharashlra, Those people who are living there are Tlrbals and electrification for most of the villages are completed but harijans. I understand that in the previous years, they when they declare .. village as electrified, the wadis are have got some subsidy; but nowadays they are deprived not covered in it. Half cif the population stays in wadis of it. Why Is it so? How Is the policy changing daY'by and I can quote many wadis like that. One village day? Why are the Adlvasi peopl!! not being given consists of ten to twelve wadis also. NowT when they faclUtles In their villages? ,They are still not helping declare a village as electtifled, the wadis are not covered. them. I am very sorry to say that they are suffering like So, I would like to know whether they will give special anything. Even these Adlvasl villages are included. In priority to wadis and give guidelines to the State the urban areas and also in the rural areas. May I know Governments to get these wadis also completed. 15 Oral Answer~ MAY 22, 1995 Oral Answers 16 Secondly, Sir, they have included 10,000 remote SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KUMAR : My question is villages in 50,000 villages which are going to be this. Once the Action Plan is prepared, will the electrified in the Eighth Five Year pian. I would like to Government of India make available the funds required for the State Government? know the number of villages left out and whether the Government is giving any priority to these remote MR. SPEAKER : They cannot give an assurance villages and give some more funds to them? like this. SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KUMAR: Otherwise, what is MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Minister, have you followed? the good of asking them to prepare the Plan, unless the SHRIMATI URMILABEN GHIMANBHAI PATEL: If funds are allocated? the Member can repeat his question, it will be helpful. [Trans/ation] MR. SPEAKER : Will you please briefly repeat the SHRI MAN JAY LAL : Mr. Speaker, Sir, India lives in question? villages and the progress of the country will be possible SHRI UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD : Sir, you also know only if the villages are electrified. I can give examples what I was telling. Even then I will repeat the question of a large number of villages in Bihar from where electric lines are passing but those villages have not been very shortly. electrified. Whether the han. Minister would enquire MR. SPEAKER : No. I really did not follow it . into it and .take any action against the officials Probably, there is something wrong with the sound responsible for providing wrong information? system. MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. This is the responsibility of the State Government. SHi=l1 UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD : Sir, wadi is such a place where most of the 'population coming from the SHRI BHERU LAL MEENA : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the village stays. cost of rural electrification is very high, That is why the rural areas do not get this facility. With the privatisation MR. SPEAKER : What are you doing to electrify of power generation, whether the private sector would these wadis Le., the hamlets? be pressurised to provide electricity to the rural areas and .. SHRI UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD : They declare that a village is electrified but wadis are not at all electrified. MR. SPEAKER : You have asked a very good I want to know whether they are going to give priority question but do not make it lengthy. to this sector and give some more funds. SHRIMATI URMILABEN GHIMANBHAI PATEL: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I entirely agree by han, Member. Though MR. SPEAKER: Now, you have the villages and the cost of rural electrification is very high, still the rural you have the hamlets. Hamlets are not electrified. Are areas have to be electrified, But the planning has to be you going to do something to electrify the hamlets also? done by the State Governments. In case, the proposals for private projects are received, we will see what can SHRIMATI URMILABEN GHIMANBHAI PATEL: Sir, be done on this aspect. about 2,62,960 hamlets - Harijan bastis - are electrified. It is for the State Government to decide which basti SHRI BHERU LAL MEENA : Mr, Speaker, Sir .. should be electrified or otherwise. MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down. you were given the chance. Please do not misuse it. SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KUMAR : Sir, in part (e) of the reply, it is stated by the Minister as : SHRI K.P. REDDAIAH YADAV : Mr. Speaker Sir, the REG gives funds for the State Governments purely as "The majority of the remaining unelectrified per their village electrification with standardisation of villages are located in remote, inaccessible works. Have the Minister of Power, Government of India and difficult areas requiring heavy capital received any complaint? I would like to know whether investment for their electrification, The State the funds intended for the village electrification have been diverted as a result of which the inferior Governments and State Electricity Boards electrification was being done and the farmers are have been requested to accord higher suffering because of the non-standard work done. priority and prepare necessary action plans SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Sir, for completing electrification of the remaining no such complaints have been received by us. villages: Once the State Government prepares the Action [Translation] Plan, I would like to know whether the Government MAJ. GEN. (REm.) BHUWAN CHANDRA KHANDURI assures this House that .... : Mr. Speaker, Sir, it has been stated by the hon. Minister in her reply to the question that the heavy Investment is MR. SPEAKER : No. That kind of an assurance required for the electrification of vUlages located In difficult cannot be given. It depends on the Plan. let us please hill areas. I would like to know from the han. Minister come to the right question. I am giving you the time to whether the practice is that If a pole is InstaHed on the ask the right question. outskirts of a vlRage located particularly In a hili area, It 17 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Oral Answers 18 is declared an electrified village? Whether the hon. (e) whether the retrenched workers will be re- Minister is aware of this position and if so, what she employed after the revival of these units; and proposes to do in this regard? (f) if so, the details thereof? MR. SPEAKER : She has already stated that it THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND relates to the revenue area. FERTILIZERS (SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV) : (English] (a) to (f). A Statement is laid on the Table of the House. SHRI N.K.P. SALVE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, on the question of assurance on the question raised by the hon. Member, STATEMENT Shri Chandrajit Yadav, I thought this question was with reference to a separate survey to assess the requirement (a) to (f). As per its terms of reference the Purohit of the rural areas. That, we have not taken up. But in Committee was not required to make any answer to (b) and (c), we have clearly stated further that recommendations in respect of FC!. It was merely the Central Electricity Authority made an estimate of the required to examine whether Durgapur, Barauni and energy consumption for pump-sets, tubewells and Lift Namrup-I and II units of HFC could be operated with Irrigation Scheme for each State and Union Territory. some investment on renewal/replacement of the problematic equipments. This Committee had, inter alia, Sir, the assurance I gave was that a separate survey identified trouble-prone equipments and weak areas of is not being made to assess the power requirement of the above units for replacement/repairs/modifications, the rural areas as a whole. Therefore, I wanted to clarify alongwith other remedial measures essential to continue this that the other estimates are available. (Interruptions) the operations of the aforesaid units, at an estimated SHRI N.K.P. SALVE : Sir, I am only clarifying what expenditure of Rs. 263.18 crores. I have assured the hon. House that the answer is Based on the recommendations of the Purohit already there. So far as the requirement of consumption Committee, as also taking into account other relevant of energy of pump-sets, tubewells and the Lift Irrigation factors, the Government has recently prepared a revival Scheme, etc. upto 1994-95 is concerned, the CEA has plan for HFC which, in principle, envisages rehabilitation already made the estimates. But we have already stated of its Barauni, Durgapur and Namrup units through that separate survey is not being made to assess the revamp, and hiving off of Haldia Fertilizer Project in power requirement of the rural areas as a whole. This view of the fact that revamp of this project was not is the reference with which I said that we will try to feasible. The revival plan envisages fresh investment of undertake this work. the order of Rs. 464.93 crores apart from capital That is all, we want to clarify. ... (Interruptions) restructuring and other financial reliefs. The funds for revival of these units including funding through MR. SPEAKER : Should we not know what is the participation of' Financial Institutions have not been tied requirement? up so far. Since HFC and FCI were declared as sick SHRI A. CHARLES : Yes, yes. This is a question. companies by the BIFR, any decision on their long term ... (In terruptions) future of rationalisation of their manpower would SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL: Sir, depend upon the outcome of the proceedings pending we may add that the 14th Electric Power Survey.has before the BIFR, which is a quasi-judicial authority. already been done and the 15th EPS is now being [Translation] done. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Revival of HFC and FCI Government has stated that the HFC and FCI have been declared as sick companies by the BIFR. + Government has also stated that the Haldia unit cannot be revived and Baraunl, Durgapur and Namrup are sick ·642. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN units, which need to be revived. I want to know from the SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD : Government as to the amount of capital invested in Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS setting up both these units what was their production be pleased to state : target and what is the actual production being done and the loss suffered as well as the causes for it. First (a) whether the Government have taken into the BIFR declared that these three units were sick and consideration the recommendations made by the Purohit it has been stated in the answer to the question that Committee, while preparing a revival plan for the Durgapur, Baraunl and Namrup fertilizer units are Fertilizer Corporation of India Limited (FCI) and required to be revived and an amount of Rs. 464.93 Hlndustan Fertilizer Corporation Limited (HFC); crores would be required for their revival. It was also (b) II so, the details thereof; stated in the same answer that the revival of the Haldia (c) whether the Government propose to seek unit Is not pragmatic. I want to know from the Government .commerclal assistance from foreign and domestic about the capital invested in ali these units, the financing agencies In this regard; production targets envisaged and the loss suffered and the steps proposed to be taken to achieve the production (d) If so, the details thereof; targets in future? Also how do you want to solve the 19 Oral Answers MAY 22, 1995 Oral Answers 20 problem of fertilizer supply to the farmers? Whether the that loss is being suffered because of the old machinery, demand of fertilizers would be met by imports or a new you will not be able to check it. You have stated in the fertilizer unit would be set up for the purpose and what answer that the revamping of the Haldia project is not is the estimated capital investment in this new unit. On feasible and secondly, it has been mentioned that an the one hand, the Government units are facing closure amount of Rs. 464.93 crores would be needed for its an;:: on the other hand, talks are being held with foreign revival. I want to know from the Government the nature companies to set up new units. of the steps taken and when these were taken and when the case was referred to BIFR? What is the I would like to say that the people should know proposal of the Government for the workers likely to be about it? retrenched in the event of closure of Haldia Fertilizer SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : As far as the Project as it has been stated that revival of this unit is question of loss is concerned, FCI and HFC suffered a not feasible? Whether any programme has been chalked loss to the tune, of Rs. 2451.50 crores and Rs. 2635.91 out to provide them employment? crores respectively during the year 1994-95. An amount SHRI RAM LA KHAN SINGH YADAV : Mr. Speaker, of Rs. 750 crores has already been spent on Haldia Sir, I have already stated and I want to repeat it that Fertilizer Project. Haldia and Gorakhpur factories are not working at The hon. Member has asked a number of questions. present but no worker has been retrenched. We are Whether all these questions are needed to be answered. spending more than Rs. 1.5 crore and Rs. 1.25 crore per month for paying wages to the workers of the Haldia MR. SPEAKER: Yes, if these questions are relevant. and the Gorakhpur units respectively. It is not correct to SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YAOAV : As far as the say that we have given them up. question of their revival is concerned, it is 'found that We have already formulated a scheme to revive six the factories based on old technologies are incurring factories by investing only an amount of Rs. 2200 crores. huge losses and have outlived their life. We got HFC I have already told you that this will result into a examined by the Department's Technical advisor, Shri production of 23 lakh tonnes annually. If we do not Bhaumik and he has given his opinion that these revive these factories, we will have to spend about Rs. factories cannot be made operative without derating. 1100 crores for payment of salaries and such other We are of the view that we should revive the closed than relating to establishment. Thus an additional fund units, if possible. If it is not possible to revamp these of Rs. 1100 era res only will enable us to revive these units and if we get finance we can set up new factories factories. in the country. We have other measures also to meet the demand of fertilizers. We will not allow shortage of As regards the Haldia Fertiliser Project, I have given fertilizers. There has neither been any shortage nor we the details separately because both the factories are will allow any shortage in future. We have got the lying closed and we need about Rs. 2000 crores for Durgapur, Barauni Namrup-I and Namrup-II units re- their revival and it is not possible to mobilise so much examined by Shri Purohit and other officers and money at present. So it was decided to take measures according to their report, a fresh investment to the tune to generate production to the tune of at least 23 lakh of 464 crores of rupees would be needed for their tonnes of urea every year for 10 years. The factory, revival. The report is under consideration but in the which was giving a yield of 18 percent only is being meantime, we are thinking to take some other measures revived to achieve a yield upto 65 percent. It was decided also. We have formulated a scheme for both the to revive it because this step was considered to be in companies for which an amount of Rs. 109 crores would the interests of the farmers and the country. The Group be needed. We had to spend 69 crores of rupees even of Ministers as well as that of the officers have agreed otherwise also and now by spending only an 'additional to this proposal and now we are working on It. We are amount of Rs. 40 crores, we would have 90,000 tonnes paying attention to Haldia as well as to it. of additional production of urea every month. We started Haldia Fertilizer Project is also being considered on that basis and found that during the period of first separately. Actually, technology keeps on changing five months the production was much more than constantly the Haldia Fertilizer Project has technology envisaged. The production in these units was 5 lakh not from one country but from 13 countries because tonne. We have formulated another scheme under which when 'It was set up, we took the machinery from we will invest 2200 crores of rupees which will result in whichever country it was available as we did not have an annual production of 23 lakh tonnes of urea. The enough foreign exchanga In those days. So tills factory scheme is being examined and the Group of Ministers has 13 types of technologies which could not properly have, already agreed in principle and we are doing the be utilised. We are, therefore, trying to find out the ways exercise of mobilizing resources. to ravamp It. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : Mr. Speaker, Sir, tirst As far as the question of workers is concerned, I . of al" I would like to ask the causes for the loss. If you have already stated that nobody has been retrenched do not analyse the causes and simply keep on say ill:; and everybody Is getting wages. 21 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Oral Answers 22 As regards Gorakhpur factory, there is no difficulty SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE : Sir, is the in that we did not close it down permanently. It had to answer satisfactory? He says that the per unit cost of be closed down due to a minor accident and also due fertilizer will be less in Haldia. to pollution. We are studying both the aspects and it can be made operative. So, we are making efforts in SHRI RAM LA KHAN SINGH YADAV : Not only in that direction. We have given a revival scheme, these Haldia, in any old factory the per unit cost of production two should be viewed separately. of fertilizer will be less than that produced in the new KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE : The water and factory. provided the units are able to run ... (lnterruptionsj electricity connections in Haldia Fertilizer factory have MR. SPEAKER: Well, I think you will have to get been cut... it examined. If the cost of production in new factories is . going to be more than in old factories, then why have [English] the new factories? SHRI NIRM:A.L KANTI CHATTERJEE: Sir, I asked a question on the basis of a three point understanding. SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : Because old There was a Goswami Committee on BIFR which stated factories are getting older and older and they are not that before closing down a unit we have to find out, profitable ... (Interruptions) even for foreign parties, the' existing infrastructure that MR. SPEAKER: You please get it examined. are available in the unit. So many things are already available in those units. The foreign parties would rather (Interruptions) prefer starting the closed units instead of going in for MR. SPEAKER: The cost of production is somethil"g setting up of new units. Therefore, the Committee different from actually the cost of establishing a factC'y. suggested that the foreign parties should be interested in starting the closed units. [Translation] Secondly, Sir, very frequently we go in for the import KUMAR I MAMATA BANERJEE : Mr. Speaker, Sir, of second-hand machinery in order to establish industry. Haldia unit is controlled by Hindustan Fertilizer There is an existing structure. There is a mismatch in Corporation and Barauni and Durgapuf units in the Haldia. Can you tell us on the basis of these two - while Eastern region are also controlled by the same trying to generate more production of fertilizers within corporation. However, Government has taken a decision the country - whether It is not wiser to utilise the existing for reviving the Durgapur and Barauni units but no things like the earlier, even if _there is a mismatch, and decision has been taken for reviving the Haldia unit. on the basis of a small investment try to revive the unit? The workers there are getting their wages but the The second part of my question is on BIFR. All such electricity and drinking water connections have been units have been referred to the BIFR, which is a quasi- cut. I would like to know from the hon. Minister whether judicial authority. When the BIFR gives an award asking he proposes to take any action for reviving the Haldia the Government to do something, the Government unit? forgetting its quasi-judicial nature request it to review . . Secondly. the award which is generated from BIFR is SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : We have not dependent on the kind of stand the Government take. retrenched any worker. If there is any shortage of drinking MR. SPEAKER : Let us ask the question. water there, I cannot do anything in it. (Interruptions) SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: Therefore, my [Enligh] question is : Will the per unit cost of production of fertilizer in Haldia be more or less the per unit cost of· MR. SPEAKER Please let us not confuse. production of fertilizer in a new unit? Secondly, what [Translation] position the Government is taking in the BIFR itself to get a favourable response? SHRI RAM NAG INA MISHRA : Mr. Speaker, Sir. the SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : I could not hon. Minister has conceded that thif;Fertllizer unit of follow his question. Gorakhpur was closed down after the court passed strictures. Some people met the Prime Minister and the SHRI NIAMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE : My question hon. Minister set up an enquiry committee in this regard. is very simple. If you start a new factory, there is a per Whether the Committee has recommended the unit cost of production of fertilizer. If you try to revive reopening of Fertilizer unit of Gorakhpur? If it is not . Haldla, will the per unit cost of production be more or less? possible to reopen it. whether it will be entrusted to the private sector as it Is the only big unit in the eastern SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : The per unit region and it can be revived at a modest cost. cost of fertilizer In a new factory will always be more than in the old factory. But we have to first decide as SHAI AAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : Mr. Speaker, to Whether Haldla Is profitable or not or whetl)er it will Sir, my first aim is to see that units under operation run at all or not. should have resources enough to keep them going. 23 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 24 12.00 hrs. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND If it is not possible, then our corporations can run FERTILIZERS (SHRI RAM LA KHAN SINGH YADAV) : them ... (a) to (d). Yes, Sir. The Scheme for Rehabilitation of Bengal Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals Limited (BCPL) SHRI RAM NAG INA MISHRA : Please tell us about was approved by the Board for Industrial and Financial the Gorakhpur unit. Reconstruction (BIFR) in the hearing held on the 28th SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : About March, 1995. The formal sanction to the scheme has Gorakhpur unit, I have stated that I have not yet got the been accorded by the BIFR on the 4th April, 1995. matter enquired. I am getting it enquired and after that, According to the sanctioned scheme, the revival period measures will be taken for reviving the Gorakhpur unit. is for 10 years beginning from 1994-95. The scheme, If finance could be arranged for its revival. inter alia, envisages higher production, sales, fresh SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA : We had met you and financial assistance from the government, generation of you had given us an assurance about the revival of internal resources, cost reduction measures in terms of reduction in excess manpower/deferment of revision of Gorakhpur unit. wages and salaries/redeployment of manpower. The SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : You had met targets of production and sales for 1995·96 are Rs. me and I had expressed my desire to revive it. If you 31.20 crores and Rs. 24.23 crores respectively which want to entrust it to the private sector, please bring would gradually be increased to Rs. 48 crores of them so that I may help them ... (lnterruptions) production and Rs. 54 crores of sales by the end of the SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA : How can we bring revival period i.e. 2003-2004. The scheme also them. I would request the hon. Minister to withdraw envisages capital restructuring with effect from 1/4/94 these wo rds ... (Interruptions) involving conversion of a part of the outstanding term- loan given by the Government into equity of the company, SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : Mr. Speaker, a part of the said loans into zero rate debenture, write- Sir, we want to revive it. If we get the funds, we would off of interest outstanding on such term-loans given by like to revive it today itself. If we do not get money, we will have to take some measures as we want to revive the Government as on 31/3/94 and waiver of entire it ... (Interruptions) penal and compound interest. The company is expected to turn-around from 1995-96. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to know. through you, the reasons for not appointing the The total cost of the scheme is Rs. 28.49 crores. Chairman of the Rashtriya Chemicals Fertilizers, The fresh financial assistance enVisaged from the Bombay for the last two years? Government is Rs. 8.60 crores over a period of 2 years i.e. 1994-95 and 1995-96 and the balance cost of the SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV : This point scheme is proposed to be made through generation of does not relate to the question. This question relates to internal resources by sale/disposal of surplus assets. the Purohit Committee and this Committee does not cover the appointment of the Chairman of the Rashtriya (e) BCPL is in operation. In 1994-95, the company Chemicals. h.as achieved a turn-over of Rs. 22.51 crores In terms of production and Rs. 20.37 crores in terms of sales. The production in 1994-95 registered a growth of 25% and sales registered a growth of 27% over the actuals WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS of the year 1993-94. [English] [Translation] Revival Plan for BCPL Production of Steel in SAIL <643. DR. RAMKRISHNA KUSMARIA : Will the <644. SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA : Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased SHRI NAWAL KISHORE RAI : to state: Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state (a) whether the Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) has sanctioned the revival plan (a) whether the Steel Authority of India limited has for Bengal Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals Limited made a successful attempt to bring down the cost of (BCPL); production of Steel in 1993-94, as compared with the preceding years, by ratlonalising the power utilisation; (b) if so, the details thereof; (b) if so, the extent to which the cost of production (cl the amount proposed to be spent thereon; of Steel could have been brought down as a result of (d) the funding procedure followed; and this experiment; (el the likely time by when BCPL will resume its (c) the total amount spent on the implementation of normal functioning? all these attempts; and 25 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Writfen Answers 26 (d) the details of the reforms implemented and the 2 3 number of production units operating under the Steel Authority of India Limited in which such reforms have 12. BSL Automatic switching off of street been implemented till December, 1994? lights. . THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF II. 1994-95 (Upto December, 1994) STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. During the year 1993-94, SAIL has been able to 1 . DSP Installation of Capacitor Banks. reduce electrical energy consumption through 12 2. ASP Dynamic reactive power schemes, as well as better operational practices. The compensation system at ASP. four integrated steel plants of SAIL reduced electrical energy consumption per tonne of saleable steel by 1.7% [English] during the year 1993-94 compared to the position obtaining in 1992-93. Power consumption came down Power Supply by Nepal to 626 kwh per tonne of saleable steel during 1993-94 against 637 kwh per tonne during 1992-93 and 647 '645. SHRI S.M. LALJAN BASHA : Will the Minister kwh per tonne during 1991-92. Conservation of of POWER be pleased to state : electrical energy resulted in cost savings by Rs. 15 per (a) whether the Government of Nepal has agreed tonne of saleable steel. Total expenditure on these to supply power to India; schemes was around Rs. 292 lakhs. (b) if so, the details thereof including the quantum (d) Details are given in the Statement attached. offered and the proposed rate of power; (c) whether the rate of hydro power would compete STATEMENT favourably with rate of power proposed to be supplied by other foreign power companies; and Details of Schemes Implemented to Conserve (d) if so, the details in this regard? Electrical Power During 1993-94 and 1994-95 (April - December) THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI N.K.P. SALVE) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. There is no new specific proposal S.No. Plant Name of the Scheme under consideration for supply of additional power to 2 3 India by Nepal. India and Nepal are exchanging power at some border points. I. 1993-94 (c) and (d). Do not arise. 1. SSP Auto operation of charging side of [Translation] roll table of PM. 2. SSP Renovation of illumination in OHP Fertilizer Units area. 3. SSP Micro Processor based controller for '646. SHRIMATI DIPIKA H. TOPIWALA : ESP's of PP-II. SHRI K. PRADHANI : 4. SSP Replacement of HPMV lamps with Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS HPSV lamps in SMS-II and PM. be pleased to state : 5. SSP Replacement of existing lamps with HPSV lamps in SSM, RSP, MM and (a) the installed capacity of public sector fertilizer SP-1. units which are closed or functioning partially and the amount of investment made in each of these plants; 6. asp Replacement of existing lamps with HPSV lamps in PM Foundry and (b) whether the gap between the demand and PP-IL indigenous production of fertilizers is being covered by 7. SSP Accurate monitoring of electrical imports; energy parameters. (c) if so, the foreign exchange spent on the import 8. SSP Auto operation of field motor of PM. of fertilizers during the last three years; 9. BSL Static AC speed regulation for GAS (d) whether the availability of fertilizers during the storage Fan of SMS-II. two crop seasons of the year would match the estimated 10. BSL Conservation of High Bay HPMV demand; and 300 ~LS lamps with 640 HPSV (e) if so, the details thereof; lamps. (f) if not, the steps taken by Government In this 11. SSL Electronic ballasts for tubelights, regard; and 27 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 28 (g) whether the revival of the sick fertilizer units will make the country self reliant in fertilizer production make the country self-reliant in fertilizer production? (nitrogen). Since the indigenous phosphatic ores meet THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND only 5"10 of the demand, the major requirement of FERTILIZERS (SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV) : phosphatic fertilizers is met through imports, either in (a) The various units of Hindustan Fertilizer Corporation the form of finished products or raw materials. Since Ltd. (HFC) and Fertilizer Corporation ·of India (Pcl), the there are no known commercial reserves of potash in the country, the entire requirement is per force met two sick companies in the public sector, are not operating at their full capacity due to old age, technological through imports. deficiencies, etc. The commissioning of Haldia project {English] of HFC was suspended in 1986 due to repeated failure of equipment during the commissioning. The Gorakhpur Setting up of NPPA unit of FCI is lying closed since June, 1990 due to an accident in the plant. The unit-wise installed capacity *647. SHRI SRIKANTA JENA : Will the Minister of and capital investment (equity + plan loan) of HFC and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: FCI as on 31.3.1995 are given below: (a) the reasons for delay in setting up of the Hindustan Fertilizer Corporation National Pharmaceutical Pricing Authority (NPPA), as provided in the New Drug Policy; Unit Investment Installed capacity (Rs. crores) ('000 MT) (b) the steps being taken to set up the above stated authority; and Namrup 412.34 350.00 (Nitrogen) (c) the time by which the same is likely to be set 152.00 (Nitrogen) Durgapur 165.27 up? Barauni 197.48 152.00 (Nitrogen) THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND 54.70 155.00 (Nitrogen) Haldia project FERTILIZERS (SHRI RAM LA KHAN SINGH YADAV) : 79.00 (Phosphate) (a) to (c). In the Modification in Drug Policy, 1986 announced in September, 1994, there is a provision to Fertilizer Corporation of India set up an independent body of experts called the National Pharmaceutical Pricing Authority (NPPA) to do Installed capacity Unit Investment the work of price fixation. This body would be entrusted (Rs. crores) ('000 MT) with the task of updating the list of drugs under price Sindri 361.81 152.00 control. It would also monitor the prices of decontrolled drugs and formulations and oversee the implementation 66.44 131.00 Gorakhpur of the provisions of the DPCO. Necessary steps have Ramagundam 226.51 152.00 already been intiated to set up the NPPA very soon. Talcher 245.04 152.00 Backlog of National Highway Projects (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The foreign exchange spent towards the cost and freight value of the fertilizers *648. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI : Will the imported on Government account during the last three Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: years is given below : (a) whether there is an alarming backlog of National S.No. Year Foreign exchange spent on Highway Projects; the import of fertilizers on (b) if so, the details thereof; and Government account (in Rs. crores) (c) by when, those are likely to be cleared? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF 1. 1992-93 2108.33 SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) 2. 1993-94 1163.75 and (b). Yes, Sir. The VIII Five Year Plan provides for Rs. 3. 1994-95 1722.45 2460 crore for ongoing as well as new works on National Highways. Anticipating enhancement of allocation (d) to (f). Arrangements have been made to ensure during various Annual plans on the pattern of VII Plan, that the availability of the controlled fertilizer viz. urea a programme of sanction of projects to the tune of Rs. matches the demand which is reflected in the allocations 4150 crore during VIII Five Year Plan was made. However, made under the Essential Commodites Act, 1995. The due to resource constraints, projects worth Rs. 910 crore availability of decontrolled fertilizers is determined by could be sanctioned during the first three years of the market forces. pian. (g) Keeping the view the size of the gap between (c) The clearance of these projects depends on the demand for urea and its indigenous avaiiability, the allocation of funds. As such, it is difficult to Indicate the revival of the sick fertiiizer units of HFC and FCI will not tim.oframe for clearance of those projects. 29 Writtlm Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Written Answers 30 [Translation] low, non-acceptance of loan applications by some banks, non-viability of projects, identification of Indo-Maldives Cooperation benefioiaries, raising of loan limit, raising of poverty line criteria and definition of 'Family' under Scheme of . "649. SHRI DATTA MEGHE : Will the Minister of Urban Micro Enterprises (SUME), issue pertaining to EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : residency condition, etc., discussions have be~I)' held in the course of Meetings of the High Powered (a) the areas in which India and Maldives are co- Committee on Institutional Credit Support for Scheme operating presently; of Urban Micro enterprises of Nehru Rozgar YOiana, (b) the further areas identified for cooperation Reserve Bank of India, Planning Commission, Ministry between the two countries in future; a~d of Urban Affairs and Employment and representatives of State Governments. The last Meeting of the High (c) the aid provided to Maldives by India during Powered Committee was held on 19th September, 1994. each of the last three years? (d) The Reserve Bank of India reiterated the THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI instructions to all public sector banks for disposal of PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) India and Maldives are loan applications under Scheme of Urban Micro cooperating in sectors of health, Human Resource Enterprises within prescribed time limit. It has also Development, Education, trade,' restoration of ancient issued instructions to the banks to include suitable historical monuments, vocational training and linguistic lecture sessions in all relevant training programmes to research and technical assistance through educate and change the attitude of bank managers so deputationists. that they have proper perspective and real appreciation (b) Further areas will be identified by the Indo- of the spirit behind all the poverty alleviation schemes Maldives Joint Commission. One specific area of Instructions have also been issued to take stock of the cooperation identified is the field of non-conventional position of pendency of loan applications under Scheme energy. of Urban Micro Enterprises (SUME) in every meeting of (c) 1992-93 10.05 crores the State Level Bankers' Committee or ita aub- committees. For proper identification of beneficiarj.~ 18.46 crores 1993-94 Task Forces have been constituted involv';.g 1994-95 5.88 crores representatives of banks at the level of Urban Local Bodies. The matter regarding involvement of cooperative Nehru Rozgar Yojna banks in add ition to public sector banks in implementation of Scheme of Urban Micro Enterprises 650. SHRI RAM TAHAL CHOUDHARY : Will the has also been taken up with the Ministry of Finance Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be and they are not agreeable to this proposal. Regarding pleased to state : proof of residency of a beneficiary, it was agreed that residency certificate by an appropriate authority would (a) whether the Banks have extended full be sufficient and that the identified beneficiaries having Cooperation into schemes under Nehru Rozgar Yoina; a ration card will not be insisted upon. Also, it was (b} if so, the contribution made by the banks in this proposed not to insist upon residency in an urban local scheme during the last three years, State-wise; body for a period of. three years as eligibility condition (c) the details of the discussion held in this regard but Reserve Bank of India did not agree to it and Ministry of Finance had also rejected it earlier. Ministry of Finance by the Urban Affairs and Employment Ministry with the Ministry of Finance; and and A.B.!. are not agreeable to raise the loan limits. (d) the response of the Ministry of Finance thereto? STATEMENT THE MINISTER OF URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL) : (a) and (b). No. of Benefioiaries Assisted Through Banks Under The Statewise details of number of beneficiaries assisted the Scheme of Urban Micro Enterprises (SUME) of through banks under the Scheme of Urban Micro Nehru Rozgar Yojana During the Last Three Years Enterprises (SUME) of Nehru Rozgar Yoiana during the last three years are given in the Statement attached. S. Name of 1992-93 1993-94 1994-95 Efforts are being made on a continuous basis in co- No. State/UT ordination with the Ministry of Finance and the Reserve 2 3 4 5 Bank of India to Improve the manner of implementation of the Yojana with better cooperation from the Banks. 1. Andhra Pradesh 25523 18175 155'0 (c) In order to sort out operational problems like 2. Bihar 3732 1987 NR iong pendency of loan applications, high rate of rejection 3. Gujarat 4765 2630 1663 9f loan applications, quantum of loans being extremely 31 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 32 2 . 3 4 5 (b) Marine fish production during the last 3 years was as under : 4. Haryana 7435 800 2060 Year Marine fish production 5. Karnataka 14789 3345 14048 (In million tonnes) 6. Kerala 4790 5202 3279 7. Madhya Pradesh 43787 32072 NR 1991-92 2.46 8. Maharashtra 18839 11917 7435 1992·93 2.57 1993-94 2.68 . 9. Orissa 4946 1214 NR 10. Punjab 3985 3931 2670 (c) Steps being taken to increase the yield : 11. Rajasthan 4594 11749 9621 1. Augmentation of deep sea fishing fleet through 12. Tamil Nadu 19182 24413 12665 introduction of vessels under various schemes 13. Uttar Pradesh 59101 24813 35852 like import, indigenous construction, joint 14. West Bengal 15169 4368 3042 ventures, leasing and chartering. 15. Goa 440 2. Systematic survey of fishery resources in indian waters. 16. Arunachal Pradesh 40 17. Assam 1822 1299 13572 3. Training of personnei in deep sea fishing . operatives. 18. Himachal Pradesh 190 19. Jammu and Kashmir 1695 91 4. Construction of fishing harbours at major and minor ports. 20. Manipur 395 2745 1651 5. Subsidy in· the rate of interest for acquisition of 21. Meghalaya 199 274 NR deep sea fishing vessels. 22. Mizoram 700 6. Creation of infrastructural facilities for Nagaland 23. processing, preservation and marketing of fish. 24. Sikkim 182 16 NR 7. Reimbursement of a part of the cost of diesel 25. Tripura 330 137 NR consumed by Indian-owned deep sea fishing 26. A and N Islands 177 vessles. 27. Chandigarh 178 ·21 8. Reguiatlon of fishing by foreign fishing vessels 28. 0 and N Haveli 43 53 14 in the Exclusive Zone and the Indian owned 29. Daman and Diu vessels in the territorial waters. 30. Pondlcherry 226 160 705 9. Motoriaation of Traditional craft. 31. Delhi 1038 295 79 10. Introduction of plywood craft. Total 236855 '152380 124628 11. Introduction of off shore intermediate size pelagic fishing craft. Note: NR - Not Reported. 12. Setting up of artificial reefs and Mari-cu"ure [EngJish] projects. 13. Development of brackish water acquacu"ure for . Sea Food shrimp production. *651. SHRIMATI BHAVNA CHIKHLlA : Will the [Translation] Minist.r of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to atat. : Import of Urea THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND established traditional suppliers are, FERTILIZERS (SHRI RAM LAKHAN SINGH YADAV) : however, exempted from submission of Bid (a) Imports of urea during the last three years have Bond. been canalized through MMTC Ltd. Information regarding (ii) The supplier is required to submit a derived/actual C and F price of imports during the Performance Guarantee Bond @ 2% of the relevant period is given in the Statement attached. contract value within 10 days of the (b) Prices of urea in the international market vary placement of Letter of Intent by MMTC from time to time. In FOB contracts, price realisations of against the valid offer. the suppliers also vary as a function of the freight (iii) In the case of new suppliers, proof of stock element. duly endorsed by a prime Bank or the (c) The broad terms and conditions of urea imports Chamber of Commerce of the country of origin as reported by MMTC Ltd. are as under: is required to be submitted before a non- (i) Each offer to MMTC is required to be transferable and/or divisible Letter of Credit accompanied by a Bid Bond at the rate of is opened by MMTC Ltd: US$ 1 per tonne. The producers/sole (iv) Discharge port results in regard to the representatives of the producers and the quantity and quality of the cargo are generally taken as final. STATEMENT Derived/actual C and F Prices of Urea Imported during the years 1992-93 to 1994-95 in US$ PMT S.No. Country 1992-93 1993-94 1994-95 FOB C&F FOB C & F FOB C & F 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1. CIS 97.49 134.49 78.00 122.00 141.00 127.50 164.50 91.00 135.00 143.50 159.98 76.00 120.00 149.50 164.99 81.00 125.00 158.00 124.75 161.75 81.45 125.45 117.50 154.50 118.60 155.60 82.00 126.00 165.75 127.50 164.50 124.00 133.00 170.00 128.77 165.77 128.00 16650 153.50 129.11 166.11 13625 173.25 12275 160.75 158.50 17350 130.75 168.75 201.00 201.50 198.00 202.50 2. Qatar 134.00 150.00 94.50 112.50 123.00 139.00 148.00 164.00 114.50 132.50 228.50 244.50 3 ...... Kuwait 95.00 113.00 88.00 108.00 121.00 139.00 138.75 156.75 92.50 112.50 205.00 145.00 163.00 95.00 116.00 148.00 166.00 97.00 197.00 199.50 .:: ' 108.00 198.00 109.00 129.00 125.00 39 Written Answers MAY 22. 1995 Written Answers 40 " THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) GOGOI) : (a) and (b). Out of 250 Food Processing and Yes, Sir. Training Centres proposed to be assisted during the (b) Private sector participation in Port Development 8th Pian. assistance has been extended for setting up project is expected to augment resources and port 150 such Centres in the first 3 years of Pian. Of these efficiency to meet the growing demands of Ports users. 8 Centres in Bihar. lOin Orissa, 8 in West Bengal, 11 (c) A list of important Port Projects approved by in Uttar Pradesh, 4 in Mizoram, 2 in Karnataka and 1 Government for private participation is given below each in Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh which will bring in an investment of Rs. 2,500 crores and Tamil Nadu - a total of 47 such Centres are apprOXimately : reported to have become operational. 1. Setting up of ship repair facilities at Madras [English} Port by MIs Chokani International Limited in collaboration with MIs KEPPEL Shipyard of Singapore. / Joint venture in deep sea fishing 2. Setting up of a floating dry dock and ship '657. SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : Will the repair facilities at Mormvgao Port by Mis Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be Western India Shipyard Limited in pleased to state : collaboration with MIs LlSNAVE of Portugal. 3. Creation of Port facilities for handling crude (b) if so, the details of the promises made by the (be) There shall be no Import of proprietary Pepsi company; ingredients to manufacture soft drink (c) the details of promises which the Pepsi has not concentrates and the raw materials available . fulfilled so far; and within the country shall be use to the maximum extent possible. The import of any raw materials (d) the reaction of the Government in 'this regard? and chemicals that are not available THE MINISTEA OF STATE OF THE MINISTAY OF indigenously shall be regulated by the import FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHAI TAAUN policy in force form time to time and no special GOGOI) : (a) No, Sir. But there were allegations that import concessions shall be allowed. MIs. Pepsi Foods Ltd. had not fulfilled the export obligations. (x) Foreign brand names shall not be allowed to be used on domestic sales. (b) The original terms and conditions of the approval granted to MIs. Pepsi Foods Ltd. are given in the (xi) Efforts should be made to increase export Statement-I attached. These terms and conditions were potential and the actual export performance of revised in July, 1993. the project which would include export of soft (c) and (d)~ There were allegations that MIs. Pepsi drink lliso. Food Ltd., had not fulfilled its export obligation. The matter relating to the fulfilment of export obligation has Financial Con.tralnt. Faced by not yet been finally decided by the competent authority. Shipping Companle. STATEMENT '660. SHAI R. SURENDER AEDDY : Will the Minister of SUAFACE TAANSPOAT be pleased to state: Original Terms of Approval Letter dated 29.8.88 (a) whether the Shipping sector in the country is (i) (a) Foreign Equity: 39.89% (Thil1y nine point facing financial constraints for expansion of its activities, eighty nine per cent) amounting to As. acqUisition of ships, modernisation of its infrastructural 3,59,00,000/- (Three crore fifty nine lakhs f!lcilities and introduction of latest technologies; only) (b) if so, the details of the problems faced by the (b) As. 3.25 crore (36.1%) will be invested shipping companies in this regard; by you and the balance of As. 2.16 crore (24%) by MIs Voltas Limited. (c) whether the indian Shipping Companies have not been able to mobilise capital to meet Its expansion (ii) Lumpsum payment: US$ 8,00,000/- (US Dollars developmental requirements; eighth lakhs only) net of taxes with tax liability to be borne by the Indian Company. (d) if so, the details thereof and the reasons therefor: and (iii) Duration of agreement: 10 (Ten) years. (e) VIe details of the steps proposed to be taken by (iv) Item 2 of the Annexure is not applicable. the Government to remove financial constraints and (v) Item 5 of the Annexure is modified to the extent other obstacles faced by the Indian Shipping indicated above. Companies? (vi) The turnover from soft drink concentrate THE MINISTEA OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF manufacturing shall in no year exceed 25% of SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) the total turnover of the company for that year. to (e). The Shipping Industry apprehends that they will (vII) The project shall export 50% of its total turnover face financial constraints from the current financial year each year for a period of 10 years from due to the withdrawaVcurtailment of certain benefits commencement of commercial production, of which were hitherto ·being. enjoyed by them viz : which 40% will be from the company's own manufactured. products and 10% from Select (I) Withdrawal of exemption from Withholding List products manufactured by others. The Tax on interest payment on External foreign exchange Inflow shall not be less than Commercial Borrowings by amending Section five time. the foreign exchange outflow of the 10 (15) (Iv) of the Income Tax Act. project during the above mentioned 10 year (iI) The existing Section 80 IA of Income Tax Act period .. provi (iii) As peuevised ECB guidelines the average number of countries, including India and China, by the age of loan has to be 7 years for the loan U.S. The Territorial waters, Continental Shelf, Exclusive over US $ 15 million. Since the loans are Economic Zone and Other Maritime Zones Act 1976 of amortised on the basis of equated India clearly states the sovereignty of India extel)ds and instalments and not on the basis of bullet has always extended to the territorial w~ers of India payment (one time payment) to achieve and to the seabed and subsoil underlying, and the average life of 7 years, the tenure of loan airspa~e over such waters, the limit of territorial waters h .. s to be between 13 to 14 years. Such long being the line every point of which is at a distance of term loans are not easily available and also twelve nautical miles from the nearest point of the more expensive in terms of rate of interest appropriate baseline. The Article 4(2) of the Act also and loan covenants. This will place additional foresees that foreign warships including submarines financial burden on the Indian shipping and other underwater vehicles may enter or pass companies and make the ships acquired thFough the territorial waters after giving prior notice to through such loans economically unviable in the Central Government. the international market as the Indian shipping companies cannot pass the Payment of Pensionary Dues additionai burden to their customers. Further, such loan cannot be used for purchase of 6559. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI : Will second hand ships as the balance life of the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: second hand ships may be lesser than the average life of the loan. Industry therefore (a) whether his Ministry are making timely payment desires thal Governme,.'1t may adopt age of pensionary dues, G.P.F. and encashment of earned norms for loans applicable to Organisation leave etc. to their retiring employees; for Economic Co-operation and Development (b) if not, the reasons therefor and the steps taken loans where tenure of loans- is maximum 8 to check such delays which are detrimental to the years. interests of the retiring employees; and 33 (iv) The benefit of Section AC of the Income (c) the number of cases pending for payments in Tax Act, which the shipping industry had, so his Ministry and since when and the steps taken to far, been enjoying have been curtailed from finalise them without further delay? 100% to 50%. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF The Indian National Shipowners' Association have EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. submift~d a Memorandum to the Ministry of r.inance for granting certain incentives to make shipping industry (b) In most cases retirement dues are paid promptly. . compete in the international market effectively. In some cases short delays in payment of some retirement dues occur because of non-settlement of audit objections relating to payments made to officers during Protection of Maritime Rights their careers and lacunae in their Service Books. 6558. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : Will the (c) The number of cases in which pension payment Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : orders have to issue are : (a) whether attention of the Government has been (i) more than six months 4 invited to the news-item captioned "U.S. disputes • '(Ii) more than three months 7 maritime claims of India" appearing in 'The Hindu'. dated (iii) more than one month 12 March 18, 1995; The Ministry has and will continue to emphasise to (b) if so, the facts of the matter reported therein; all concerned officials to ensure that there is no delay and In payment of retirement dues. (c) how the Government propose to protect India's maritime rights in regard to foreign warships obtaining {Translation] their prior permission before they enter into territorial waters extending upto 12 nautical miles and to India's VI.1t of Deputy Prime Mlnl.tar of Nepa' historic claim to the gulf of Mannar? . 6560. SHAI SU.AENDAA PAL PATHAK: Will the THE MINISTER. OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI MinlsWr of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The Government's attention has been drawn to the news"- : the I.au.. dlaclJased during the recent Visit Of item, which is a challenge of maritime claims of a Nepalise Deputy Prime Mlnis.er; and 45 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Written Answers 46 (b) the details of the progress made in regard to STATEMENT sharing of river water and to solve the issues relating to Hydel Power Projects? Name of the Financial Country Whether THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Minister year Visited Met Head PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) and (b). During the recent of State visk of Nepalese Deputy Prime Minister from 6-10 Feb, 95, wide ranging discussions on bilateral relations, the 2 3 4 situation in the Indian sub continent and other matters Shri Eduardo of common interest were held. These talks were Faleiro 1992-93 Brazil No preparatory to the visit of the Nepalese Prime Minister which took place from 10-14 April, 1995. As a follow up Suriname Yes of the discussions on water resources cooperation Trinidad & Tobago Yes during Nepalese Deputy Prime Minister's visit, the issue Jamaica No of water resources was also discussed during Nepalese Bahrain Yes PM's visit. It was agreed that the two sides should Oman Yes continue their efforts on water resource cooperation. Qatar Yes {English] Sri Lanka Yes Maldives No Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty Jordan Yes Syria Yes 6561. DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Indonesia No Japan No (a) whether the Government have suggested any Iran Yes modification to Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; Ethiopia Yes (b) if so, the details thereof; Kenya No (c) whether these suggestions have been accepted Somalia No by various countries; and USA No (d) if so, the details thereof? Malaysia No THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Shri R.L. PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (d). Government has Bhatia 1992-93 Kazakhstan Yes repeatedly called for developing a global non- Kyrghyzstan Yes proliferation regime, that is universal, comprehensive and non-discriminatory and linked to the goal of Uzbekistan No complete disarmament. This approach was outlined in Nepal No the Action Plan for a nuclear weapon free world tabled Poland No in the Conference on Disarmament in 1988, which called Slovak Republic No for the initiation of multilateral negotiations for a new Czech Republic Yes treaty eliminating all nuclear weapons by the year 2010, Hungary No to replace the NPT. However negotiations have not been possible due to lack of consensus. Indonesia No Bangladesh No Visit of Minister. 1993-94 Turkey Yes UAE No 6562. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VERMA: Will the Oman Yes Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : China Ves (a) the cou.ntries that have been visited by the two Bangladesh No Ministers of State during the last three financial years, Algeria No year-wise; and Tunisia No (b) the details of visits out of the total visits in which Egypt Ves Miliiaters met heads of the States? Indonesia No THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Ukraine Yes EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) and (b). Hungary Ves The Information Is given In the Statement attached. 47 Written Answers MAY- 22, 1995 Written Answers 48 2 3 4 2 3 4 Pakistan No USA No Iran No Bulgaria Yes Kuwait Yes Romania Yes Bahrain Yes Yemen Yes Construction of Houses at Chandigarh Thailand Yes 6563. SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: Will the 1994-95 Qatar Yes Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be Bangladesh No pleased to state : Morocco Yes (a) the number of houses constructed by Chandigarh Egypt No Administration/Housing Board for retired or retiring employees as also E.W.S.lLlG flats during each of the USA No last three years; and Russia Yes (b) the plinth area of such houses/flats and the Iran Yes price charged therefor? Singapore Yes THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Vietnam Yes URBAN· AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. Shri Salman THUNGON) : (a) and (b). Information is being collected Khurshid 1992-93 Hong Kong No and will be laid on tlie Table of the Sabha. Brunei Yes Singapore No Fertilizer Plant in Maharashtra Vietnam No 6564. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA GAVIT : Will the 1993-94 Kazakhstan Yes Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Kyrghyzstan Yes to state: Tajikistan Yes (a) whether the Government propose to set up a Fertilizer Plant in the State of Maharashtra during the Brazil No current financial year; and Argentina No (b) if so, the details thereof? Chile No THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Venezuela Yes CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND MINISTER OF Mexico No STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Peru Yes AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF Cuba Yes ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) and Guyana Yes (b). There is no proposal to set up a fertilizer plant in the Maldives Yes State of Maharashtra during the current financial year. Switzerland No [Translation] USA No Republic of Korea No Development of Minerals in GujarAt Zambia Yes South Africa No 6565. SHRI N.J. RATHVA : Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state : Kenya Yes Mozambique No (a) whether Government have received foreign assistance for the exploration and development of Botswana No minerals in Gujarat during the last three years till April, 1994-95 Jordan Yes 1995; and Egypt No (b) if so, the details thereof including the amount of United Kingdom No foreign assistance received? Spain Yes THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Ireland No MINES (SHRI BALRAM S 'IGH YADAV) : (a) No, Sir. Greece (b) Does not arise. 49 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) WriNen Answers 50 {English] (e) whether the Government could consider allotting increased quota for the use of public also keeping in National Road Policy view that the State does not produce steel and also it's backwardness? 6566. SHRI M.G. REDDY : Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Sl,iRFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) No, Sir. (a) whether attention of the Government has been (b) Does not arise. drawn to the news-item captioned 'World Bank derails national road policy' appearing in the The Hindustan (c) and (d). The Development Commissioner for Times' dated February 11, 1995; Iron and Steel (DCI and S) makes allocation of steel to the Small Scale Industries Corporations (SSICs) of the (b) if so, the facts thereof; and States to meet the requirements of Small Scale (c) the reaction of the Government thereto? Industries keeping in view the demand registered by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF the SSICs and their past offtake. Allocation of steel to SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) the Sikkim SSIC by the DCI and S and the quantity Yes, Sir. lifted by the Sikkim SSIC during 1993-94 were as JJnder: (b) and (c). World Bank have offered comments on (in tonnes) the draft Policy paper and suggested that India should Allocation Lifting start small with bridges and urban bypasses and expressways of demonstrably high priority in the 1993-94 1200 51 beginning. The State SSIC did not register\ any demand with the Office of DCI and S for 1994-95. Marine Survey DCI and S also formulates the supply plan for the 6567. SHRI PARAS RAM BHARDWAJ : Will the North Eastern Region including Sikkim after collecting Minister of MINES be pleased to state : the demand through the Nodal Authorities. Although no demand was received for the Nodal Authority of Sikkim (a) whether the Geological Survey of India (GSI) for allotment of steel materials for use by State have sought foreign collaboration for its marine Government departments, the DCI and S indicated 500 Geoscientific programme; tonnes for Sikkim in the supply plan for the year 1993- (b) if so, the names of the countries with which the 94. For the year 1994-95, the Nodal Authority of Sikkim Government have signed agreements for seabed survey; stated that their demand may be treated as nil. and (e) The State of Sikkim being one of the priority (c) the areas within the Exclusive Economic Zones sectors for supply of steel materials, the,DCI and Scan which are being opened up to the foreign companies consider allocation of steel materials to the State of for mineral exploitation? Sikkim for use of public also if such a requirement is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF received from the State Government. MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV) : (a) No, Sir, (b) Does not arise. National Highways in Tamil Nadu (c) No area within the Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ) has been given to any company for exploitation 6569. SHRI P. KUMARASAMY : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : of minerals. (a) the amount spent on the repairs of damaged National Highways in Tamil Nadu during 19E14-95 and Steel Quota for Sikklm the amount allocated for the purpose during 1995-96; 6568. SHRIMATI OIL KUMARI BHANDARI : Will . and the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : (b) the details of bridges on National Highways in (a) whether the Government have .received request the State constructed/repaired during 1994-95, and the from the Government of Sikklm for Increasing allotment amount spent thereon and also the amount allocated of steel quota for the use of people of Sikklm; for the purpose during 1995-96? (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) (c) the quantum of steel quota allotted to the State and (b). A sum of Rs. 1702.86 lakhs was allocated to during the last two years; Tamil Nadu for maintenance and repairs of National (d) whether this quota Is only for the use of the Highways during 1994-95. Two minor bridges at Km. Govemment or for the public In general; and 144/6 and 9912 on NH 7 were constructed at a cost of 51 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 52 Rs. 21.05 lakhs and Rs. 23.13 lakhs during 1994-95. It to create awareness, SAIL has initiated many measures is too early to indicate the amount to be allocated for like tranining of its personnel, observance of world original works and repairs of National Highways to be Environment Day, World Forestary Day, Environment carried out during 1995-96. Month, formation of Eco Clubs in schools etc. RINL (VSP) has taken extensive pollution control Punjab National Fertilizers and Chemicals measures at a total cost of Rs. 460 crores. 6570. PROF. PREM DHUMAL : Will the Minister of The schemes drawn up cover all the pollution CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: potential areas such as air, water, noise and solid waste . management. Extensive afforestation programme has (a) whether the Punjab National Fertilizers and also been taken up. Chemicals plant, manufacturing soda ash and ammonium chloride fertilizers at Naya Nangal (Punjab) has been running at loss; Nuclear Tests by China (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 6572. SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR PATEL: Will the (c) the steps proposed to be taken by Government Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state to convert this into economically viable unit? (a) whether attention of the Government has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF drawn to the reported confirmation by China about the CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND MINISTER OF second nuclear test of the year and declaration of its STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS intention to continue such tests until a comprehensive AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF test ban treaty is concluded; ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) to (c). The Punjab National Fertilizers Chemicals Limited (c) whether any steps are being taken by the is a company promoted by Punjab Slate Industrial Government to conclude any universal comprehensive Development Corporation, a wholly owned Punjab test ban treaty; and Government Undertaking. (d) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Pollution Control Measures in Steel Units PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Yes, Sir. Government is aware that, most recently, China conducted a nuclear 6571. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE : Will the weapon test on 15.5.95. Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : (b) to (d). India has consistently advocated the (a) whether his Ministry has asked every public urgent need for a universal Comprehensive Test Ban sector steel plant to adopt pollution control measures; Treaty (CTBT). It remains our hope that all nuclear (b) if so, whether the pollution control measures weapons states and non-nuclear weapons states can have been adopted by each public sector steel plant; work together to negotiate such a treaty. India considers and a CTBT an integral part of its proposals for nuclear disarmament and the establishment of a nuclear- (c) if so, the details thereof? weapons free world. In December 1993, India THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF cosponsored a consensus resolution in the UN General STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) As per Assembly calling for such a treaty. India has been Notification No. S.O. 23 (E) dated 16th January, 1991 actively involved in the negotiations on a CTBT which and GSR 95 (E) dated 12th February, 1992, issued by commenced in the Conference on Disarmament in Ministry of Environment and Forests, all public sector January 1994. steel plants are required to adopt pollution control measures. I•• ue of Pa•• port by RPO, Guwahatl (b) Yes, Sir. All the public sector steel plants under Steel Authority of India Limited and Rashtriya Ispat 6573. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : Nigam Limited, have drawn up programmes and initiated DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA measures for control of pollution. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria) : (c) Steel Authority of India Limited has committed to Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased invest about Rs. 1000 crores exclusively for Environment to state: Management over a time span of 8 to 10 years ending 1997 through a comprehensive Pollution Control Action (a) whether attention of the Government has been Plan for its plants and captive mines. Besides, in . :der drawn to the newsitem captioned "Rs .. 20,000 for a 53 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 54 passage to India and a dead· man's name" which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF appeared in 'Indian Express' dated March 25, 1995; EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) Morocco, (b) if so, whether a large number of Bangladeshi in its capacity as OIC Chairman had transmitted to the Chairman of 51 st Session of the United Nations Human nationals who illegally entered into India have been Rights Commission, an OIC statement pertaining to granted Passport by the Regional Passport Office, Kashmir. Guwahati; (b) In its reply, the Government through the (c) if so, whether the Government have conducted Permanent Representative of India at Geneva had any enquiry into this matter; regretted that the OIC had made a reference to Jammu (d) if so, the findings thereof; and and Kashmir which is an integral part of India. (e) the steps taken/being taken to prevent such (c) As a result of the effective articulation of the issue of fake passports by various Passport Offices in Indian viewpoint, no adverse move against India could the country and to check illegal immigrants from succeed at the 51 sl session of UN Human Rights Bangladesh on the basis of such bogus passports? Commission. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (d) Yes, Sir. EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (e) Most of the OIC member States informed us that (b) and (c). According to the information available they favoured resolution of the Jammu and Kashmir with the Ministry approximately 700 cases for issue of issue bilaterally between India and Pakistan. passports on the basis of fraudulent documents are being investigated by various investigating agencies of High Level Delegation from Japan the Government. (d) The investigations have not yet been completed. 6575. SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : Initial examination has, however, revealed that the SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO : passports were obtained by submitting forged Verification Certificates, fake police reports, ration cards and school Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased leaving certificates. to state: (a) whether a high level Japanese delegation had (e) All RPOs/POs have been given instructions to visited India recently; ensure that the required documentation is complete and, where necessary, not to issue passports in the (b) if so, the objectives and the outcome of the visit; absence of police verification report. They have also (c) whether Japan has agreed to provide assistance been instructed to ensure scrutiny at the application in various fields; stage. The RPOs/POs also maintain close liaison, Including through periodic meetings, with the concerned (d) if so, the details thereof; Central and State Government agencies to ensure that (e) whether talks were also held on issues relating frauds of this nature are prevented. to nuclear weapons; and (f) n so, the details and the outcome thereof? OIC Memorandum to UN Human Rights Commission THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Yes, Sir. The Second High 6574. SHRI SUDHIR SAWANT : Level aDA Mission on Economic and Technological SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO Cooperation from Japan visited India for talks with Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased officials in the Ministry of Finance on 28.3.95. to state: (b) The objective of the visit is intensifying policy (a) whether the Organisation of Islamic Countries dialogues between India and Japan specifically in the (OIC) has recently submitted a memorandum on Kashmir field of official deveiopment assistance (aDA). to the United Nations Human Rights Commission; (c) and (d). Japan has pledged an amount of Yen (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; 125.765 billion as development assistance to India for the year 1994-95. This assistance is to finance projects (c) the counter steps taken by the Government and in the following sectors - power, fertilisers, the results achieved; telecommunications, gas pipelines, ports, irrigation, (d) whether the Government have taken up the environment, health, urban development and agriculture. matter with OIC and each of its member countries; and (e) and (f). During the talks, in accordance with (e) if so, the response of OIC and each of its member Japanese ODA policy since 1992, the Japanese side countries thereto? referred to certain non-economic factors such as non- 55 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 56 proliferation of nuclear weapons and missile delivery (b) if so, the names of such societies with systems. The Japanese delegation was briefed about background for such a move; India's commitment to non-proliferation and disarmament. It was pointed out that these issues are (c) whether Government propose to extend similar regularly discussed in Foreign Office Consultations. facilities to allottees of other Cooperative Group Housing Societies also; Activities of LTTE (d) if so, the details thereof and if not, the reasons therefor; 6576. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY : Will the Minister (e) whether Government also propose to extend of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : the same facilities to first and second floor allottees of (a) whether it has come to the notice of the DDA flats; and Government that l TTE has virtually acknowledged (f) if so, the details thereof and if not, the reasons assassinating Rajiv Gandhi in their warning to the Sri Lankan President against seeking a military solution to therefor? island's ethnic conflict; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. and THUNGON) : (a) and (b). DDA has reported that building plans providing partitioned spaces on the terraces upto (c) the steps takenibeing taken by the Government 3 feet high have. been permitted only in the case of to keep a vigil on the activities of lTTE in various parts of the country? Gujrawala Co-operative Group Housing Society, which had only 3 floors. Since their proposal was not THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI objectionable the permission was given. PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) and (b). The Government has seen reports in the Press about a statement made (c) and (d). Proposals, from Societies for utilisation by an lTTE spokesman, Anton Balasingham, regarding of terrace spaces, which do not cause inconvenience to the assassination of the former Prime Minister, Shri individual members and are otherwise not objectionable Rajiv Gandhi. Government has taken action to comply from Building Bye-laws point of view, are examined on with the requirements of Indian law relating to the arrest the merits of each case. of lTTE leaders including Prabhakaran. The Designated (e) and (f). No, Sir. In DDA flats, the terrace is Court in Madras issued warrants of arrest and proclamations against Prabhakaran in February, 1992. meant for the use of top floor allottees only. However, With the approval of the Governmen. of Sri lanka, these the allottees of other floor can put their water tank and were got published in Sri Lankan newspapers. The SIT T.V. antenna on the terrace. filed a chargesheet against V. Prabhakaran in May, 1992. The Government of India is awaiting the outcome of the Indiana in Bahrain trial in the Rajiv Gar,dhi assassination case, currently subjudice in the Designated Court in Madras. In April, 6578. SHRIMATI SUSEELA GOPALAN : Will the 1994, a "Red Corner Notice", requesting the arrest of Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Prabhakaran was circulated through Interpol. (a) whether the Government have taken note of the (c) The Central Government declared the lTTE an violence in Bahrain and the possible consequences to unlawful association in May, 1992. A further notification Indians there; was issued in May, 1994, extending the earlier ban by another two years. Central and State Governments are (b) if so, the details thereof; taking coordinated action to crevent any illegal activities (c) whether this matter has been taken-up with the by the LTTE. State Governments have intensified security Government of Bahrain; and arrangements along the coast line by setting up armed checkposts as well as mobile patrols. Apart from these (d) if so, the response of Bahrain thereto? measures, the Palk Bay is kept under continuous surveillance by the Navy and Coast Guards on the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Indian side of the International Boundary line. EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) There were a few cases of threats received by Perm•• ion by DDA to use terrace floor the Indian expatriate community including warning from unidentified sources to leave the country. Such cases 6577. SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Will the Minister of Involving other expatriate communities resident in URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to Bahrain were also reported. state: (c) and (d). Our Mission has remained In close (a) whether DDA has permitted the first and second contact with the authorities who.assured full protection floor allottees of some Cooperative Group Housing and the Indian community have kept advised of the Societies to make use of the partitioned terrace floor; steps taken to ensure their safety. 57 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 58 Allotment of Government accommodation Espionage incident in ISRO to house owners 6581. SHRI SHARAD YADAV : 6579. SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI : Will the Minister of SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VARMA : URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether the ,Government employees having own houses at their service stations are entitled for allotment (a) whether the Government have taken up the issue of Government accommodation; of espionage incident detected in ISRO, with the Government of Maldives; and (b) if so, on what grounds; and (b) if so, the details thereof and the results achieved (c) if not, the reasons for allotting Government thereby? . accommodation in Delhi or elsewhere to such employees? THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI PK (b) It has been conveyed to Government of Maldives THUNGON) : (a) As per the existing policy of the that the two Maldivian nationals implicated in the case Government house owning officers are also eligible for have violated certain Indian laws and that information allotment of Government accommodation as and when sought from the Government of Maldives in this regard the turn matures. However, depending upon the range was essential in completing the investigation. The of rental income from their houses, different rates of Government of Maldives has agreed to the despatch of licence fee have been prescribed for the Government the information. residential accommodation allotted to them. [Trans/ation] (b) and (c). House owners at their stations of posting have been made eligible because discontinuance of National Working Group on Power Sector such facility would discourage the Government employees from construction of private houses which 6582. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR : Will would be against the housing policy of Government. the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (a) whether the National Working Group on Power Fertilizer Plants Sector is opposing the entry of multinational companies! corporations in the field of energy; and 6580. SHRI SHIV SHARAN VERMA : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS and FERTILIZERS be pleased (b) if so, the details in this regard and the reasons to state: therefor? (a) whether Government have received proposals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF to set up new gas based fertilizer plants particularly in POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): U.P. and in the North Eastern Region; (a) and (b). National Working Group on Power Sector in . (b) if so, the details thereof; and their letter addressed to Members of Parliament regarding ·the new power policy of the Government of (c) the time by which the proposals will be cleared? India have raised various issues on the private power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF policy including foreign investment in this sector. All the CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF issues raised by them have been replied in a publication STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS brought out by the Ministry of Power "The Legal and AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF Policy Framework of Private Power Development-Facts ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN and clarifications· which was widely circulated including DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) to (c). among the Members of Parliament. As per Industrial Policy Statement of July, 1991, industrial licensing has been abolished for the fertilizer industry. An [English] entrepreneur can set up a fertilizer plant anywhere in India subject to environmental clearance. However, MIs Building of Hospitals Abroad Reliance Assam Petrochemicals Limited have submitted a proposal for allocation of gas to set up an ammoi'lia- 6583. SHRI P.C. THOMAS : Wi" the Minister of urea plant in Assam at an estimated cost of Rs. 1100 EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : crores for manufacturing of 726,000 tonnes of urea per THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (c) whether the Government is prepared to meet EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) The the country's requirement of urea during the current Government has so far spent Rs. 38.69 crores on kharif season? constructing the Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Maldives. CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF (b) yes, Sir. STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF (c) (i) In Nepal, the OPD Block with diagnostic ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN and other facilities of the Bir Hospital was DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) to constructed at a cost of Rs. 9.61 crores. (c). The arrivals of imported urea during the current Another 350 bed hospital is under kharif season have been as per schedule. Necessary execution in Dharan, Nepal as part of the arrangements have been made to meet the country's Government of India's assistance for B.P. requirement of urea as reflected in the allocations made Koirala Institute of Health Sciences worth under the Essential Commodities Act (ECA), 1955 for Rs. 64 crores. India has also assisted kharif 1995. Nepal in upgrading and strengthening its health facilities. Non-Proliferation Treaty (ii) In Mauritius, the Jawaharlal Nehru Hospital was constructed under the Indian 6585. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKATESWARLU Technical and Economic Cooperation Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to (ITEC) Programme. This 180 bed hospital, state: whose construction commenced in June 1987 and completed in January 1991, (a) whether Government propose to take steps to was handed over to the Mauritian propagate the view that the NPT has been un-successful Government in March 1991 during the in preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons; visit of our Vice President to Mauritius. (b) if so, the fora in which this issue was raised The cost of construction was Rs. 35 during the last three years, forum-wise; million. An additional amount of Rs. 15 (c) whether any steps have been taken to discuss million was spent towards equipment for this issue at bilateral level with the supporting countries the hospital. of NPT; and (iii) In Afghanistan, the Government (d) if so, the details thereof? constructed the Indira Gandhi Institute of Child Health in Kabul in 1972. This 250 THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI bed hospital is the biggest health centre PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (d). India has consistently in Afghanistan. maintained that the NPT, in its present form is a fundamentally flawed treaty. It is discriminatory and (iv) In 1986, under the second phase of creates a permanent division between the nuclear ass ista nce, construction of 100 bed "haves" and "have-nots", by legitimising the nuclear surgical block and an OPD was started. arsenals of the nuclear weapons states. It seeks to This work, however, had to be suspended control horizontal proliferation and ignores completely in February 1993 due to the situation in the problem of vertical proliferation. This well known Afghanistan. position has been conveyed in bilateral discussions with the depositary states of the NPT as well as in all Import of Urea relevant multilateral fora such as the Conference on Disarmament and the UN General Assembly. 6584. SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Fertilizer requirement of Tamil Nadu to state: 6586. SHRI B. 'RAJARAVIVARMA : Will the Minister (a) whether Minerals and Metals Trading 6f CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: Corporation, Madras FertiliZers Limited (MFL), National Fertilizers Limited (NFL) and Pyrites, Phosphates and (a) the total demand for fertilizers made by the Chemicals Limited (PPCL) have failed to Import urea State Government of Tamil Nadu for the present rabi required by the farmers during the current kharif season; season; (b) if so, the details thereof and reasons therefor; (b) whether the Union Government are unable to and meet the urea requirement of Tamil Nadu; and 61 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 62 (c) if so, the remedial steps proposed to be taken [Translation] in this regard? Ganga Barrage Project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF. 6589. SHRI DEVI BUX SINGH: S'T"ATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS DR. RAMESH CHAND TOMAR : AND MINlSTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN Will the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) At EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : present urea is the only fertilizer under price, distribution (a) whether the Union Government have agreed t6 and movement controls. extend financial assistance for resumption of water on Ganga Barrage Project; The Rabi season covers the period from October to March. The allocation of urea for Tamil Nadu made (b) if so, the details thereof including the share of under the Essential Commodities Act, 1955, taking into the Union and State Government in the development of account the assessed demand of the State was 5.10 the projects; lakh tonnes. The cumulative availability of urea in the (c) the progress made so far regarding construction; State during the season was 5.19 lakh tonnes. The and demand and availability' of decontrolled fertilizers are (d) the time by which the barrage is likely to be governed by market forces. completed? (b) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. (c) Does not arise. THUNGON) : (a) Yes, Sir. • {Trans/ation] (b) the cost of the barrage· as informed by the Government of Uttar Pradesh works out to Rs. 200 Road on Indo-Nepal Border crores and Government of India have agreed to extend a loan of Rs. 100 crores i.e. 50% cost of the barrage. 6587. DR. P.R. GANGWAR : Will the Minister of' (c) As informed by the State Government of Uttar SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : Pradesh, preliminary works such as model testing, soil (a) whether there is any proposal to construct a testing and detailed foundation investigation works are almost over. Tenders for the construction of the barrage road on the Indo-Nepal border in Uttar Pradesh; are in the process of acceptance and the work of (b) if so, the details thereof; and construction of the main barrage is yet to begin. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (d) The State Government has informed ttiat the project is envisaged to be completed in six years. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) to (c). This Ministry is primarily concerned with Nafional Production of Sponge Iron Highways. As far as National Highways are concerned, there is no proposal to construct a road in Uttar Pradesh 6590. MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF FATMI : Will the in the Indo-Nepal border. Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : (a) whether the Government have not made a {English] comparative study of the cost for production of sponge iron; Tin Bigha (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 6588. SHRI RAM KAPSE : Will the Minister of (c) the efforts made by the Government 'to stablize EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : the cost of indigenous production of sponge Iron? (a) whether the Government of Bangladesh has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and (b). failed to honour the conditions associated with the Sponge Iron manufacturing units are primarily in the transfer of Tin Bigha; and private sector. The production cost of Sponge Iron (b) if so, the details thereof and the steps takenl depends upon several factors such as loca:tion, being taken to ensure implementation of Tin Bigha technology, quality of raw materials etc. The cost of accord? production statistics are generally mentioned in confidence by the units because of commercial THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI considerations. It may however be added that the Bureau PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) No, Sir. of Industrial Costs and Prices has Indicated that the (b) Does not arise. Indian sponge iron industry is internationaHy competitive. Written Answers 64 63 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 (c) In order to provide relief to Indian Sponge Iron THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (S~RI Industry, Government had in the budget for 1994-95, PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) The Government of reduce~ custom duty on Iron Ore r:'ellets from 15% to Bangladesh have not indicated such a stand to the 10% and on non-coking coal from 85% to 35%. Custom Govemment of India. Duty on Iron Ore Pellets was further reduced to 5% from (b) Does not arise. 26.4.1994. (c) Government remain committed to the full implementation of the provisions of the Indo-Bangladesh Secondary Steel Units Land Boundary Agreement, 1974 including the exchange of enclaves. Efforts are underway to complete 6591. SHAI GUMAN MAL LODHA : procedural formalities pertaining to the 1974 Agreement SHAI M.Y.V.S MURTHY: both in the Centre and concerned State Governments. Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state (d) and (e). The situation in the border districts along the Indo-Bangladesh border is kept under (a) whether a large number of Secondary Steel constant watch. Government remain vigilant to defuse Units in the country are lying sick; any possible tension. (b) if so, the total number of such units that were functioning in the country during 1994-95, the number [Translation] of units out of them that have become sick and the total annual production capacity of these sick units; Registration of Vehicles (c) whether the Government had appointed a 6593. SHRI PANKAJ CHOWDHARY committee under the chairmanship of Commissioner of Iron and Steel Development for giving suggestions for SHRI JANARDAN MISRA : the revival of these sick units; and Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be (d) if so, when this committee was appointed, the pleased to state : names of the members of this committee and by when (a) whether there is any proposal to register only the committee is expected to give its report? those vehicles in Delhi, which will be fitted with catalytic converter; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and (b). In (b) if so, the details thereof; and the secondary sector, out of 182 electric arc furnace (c) if not, the reasons therefor? units producing steel. while 95 were reported functioning THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF during 1994-95, 1 unit with a capacity ot approximately SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) 36,000 tonnes has been declared sick by the Board for & (b). No, Sir. As per the Government Notification dl. Industrial and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) during 22.3.95, it has been made mandatory that with effect 1994 and 1995 (upto April), in telills of the Sick Industrial from 1 st April, 1995, all four wheeler petrol driven Companies (Special Provisions) Act, 1985 (SICA) as vehicles which are registered on first sale in the cities amended from time to time. of Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta and Madras, shall have fitted (c) and (d). The Government had not apPointed a a noble metal based catalytic converter of atleast an Committee under the Chairmanship of Development oxidative type and with an OEM certification. Commissioner for Iron & Steel for giving suggestions (c) At present, fitment of catalytic converter is for the revival of these sick units. required only for four-wheeled petrol driven vehicles. [English] Purchase of Power Plant Exchange of Enclaves 6594. DR. CHINTA MOHAN : 6592. SHRI CHITTA BASU : Will the Minister of SHRI JAGMIT SINGH BAAR EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to stale (a) whether the Government are aware of the fact that the Government of Bangladesh have indicated that (a) whether attention of the Government has been Bangladesh would not discuss the issue of exchange of drawn to the newsltem appearing in the 'Indian Express' enclaves unless the Farakka water dispute is resolved; dated April 2, 1995 under the caption ·competitively bought equipment can reduce cost"; and (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; (b) if so, the details thereof and the reaction of the (c) the steps have since been taken to secure the Government thereto? exchange of enclaves between India and Bangladesh; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (d) whether it is fact that tension is building up in POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): the border areas of Jalpaiguri and Coochbehar districts (a) Yes, Sir. of We~t Bengal; and (b) The policy to encourage private sector (e) if so, the steps being taken to meet the situation? participation in the Power Sector has been formulated 65 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 66 basically to augment the resources of the Central/State (e) The estimated demand for urea for Kharif, 1995 Public Sector in the Power Sector, To attract private season is 87.67 lakh tonnes. The assessment of demand investors to this capital intensive sector, it was felt that for urea for Rabi 1995-96 is yet to be made by the the investors should be provided freedom regarding Ministry of Agriculture. The production target of urea for sourcing of equipments, as it would enable them to 1995-96 has been fixed at 153,79 lakh tonnes. explore suppliers' credit for the equipments. BHEL is free either to bid individually or to form jOint ventures Damages to National Highway. in Raja.than with private investors by providing suppliers' credit for taking up private sector power projects. 6596. SHRI RATILAL VARMA: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : Urea Production (a) the details of the National Highways affected by natural calamities in Rajasthan during the last three 6595, SHRI SHANKERSINGH VAGHELA years; and SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE : (b) the expenditure incurred during the period till Will the Minister of CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS date on the repair work of those National Highways? be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (a) the total production of Urea during the last three SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGD1SH TYTLER) : (a) years, year-wise; The National Highway Nos. are 3, 8 1" 12, 14 and 15 (b) the targets fixed for the production of Urea in (b) Rs. 650.90 lakhs. Public Sector/Private Sector under taking during 1995-96; [English] (c) whether the Government have signed any Memorandum of Understanding with them; Visit of Foreign Minister of Colombia (d) if so, the details thereof, Undertaking-wise; and 6597, SHRI RABI RAY : (e) the estimated total demand and production of SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN OWAISI Urea during 1995-96? Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF to state: CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS, AND MINISTER OF (a) whether the Foreign Minister of Colombia STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS recently visited India; AND MINISTER OF TATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN (b) if so, the details thereof and the objectives of DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) Total the visit; production of urea during the last three years is given (c) the subjects figures in his talks with Indian below: leaders and the outcome thereof; and (d) the extent to which the bilateral relations Year Production (Lakh MT) between the two countries will be strengthened as a result of the visit? 1992-93 131.23 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1993-94 131.48 EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHID) : (a) 1994-95 141.43 Yes, Sir. (b) The Foreign Minister of Colombia visited India (b) Sector-wise target fixed for urea during 1995-96 at the invitation of the External Affairs Minister from is given below April 20-23, 1995. Sector Target (Lakh MT) (c) Bilateral political consultations was the theme of the visit of the Foreign Minister of Colombia. Public 54,23 Preparations for the forthcoming Non-aligned summit which will be held in Colombia also figures in the talks. Cooperative 32.98 Private 66.58 (d) The bilateral relations between India and Colombia have been strengthened as a result of !hlS Total 153.79 visit of the Foreign Minister of Colombia. The two countries have found possibilities for a lot of interaction (c) and (d). Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in all possible fields between them. Is signed by the Government only with public sector undertakings (PSUs). National Fertilizers Ltd. (NFL), Rashtriya Chemicals and Fertilizers Ltd. (RCF), madras Resolution in US Hou.e of Repre.entative. Fertilizers Ltd. (MFL) and Fertilizes and Chemicals Travancore Ltd. (FACT) are the. urea producing PSUs 6598. SHRI C.P. MUDALA GIRIYAP ..A : Will !he which would be Signing MOUs ior 1995-96 with the Minister of External Affairs be pleased to state Government. (a) 'l"hether a Democratic Representative from No I 67 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 68 Carolina has formally introduced a resolution in the US THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF House of Representatives commending India tor its POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): commitment to religious pluralism and tolerance; (a) and (b). The Purulia Pumped Storage Scheme (4 x (b) whether the resolution wants India to be 225 = 900 MW) had received Investment Approval from recognised for the commitment to religious harmony the Planning Commission in February, 1994 at an throughout the world; and estimated cost of Rs. 1456.56 crores. (c) if so, the details thereof? [Translation] • THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : Yes, Sir. Congressman Charlie Iron Ore Reserve moved a Concurrent Resolution in the House of Representatives on April 6, 1995 6601. SHRI MANJAY LAL : Will the Minister of (b) Yes, Sir. STEEL be pleased to state : (c) Congressman Rose's Resolution calls upon the (a) whether a survey has been conducted to assess House of Representatives to resolve that the Government the d!i!posit of iron ore reserve; of India should be commended for its commitment to (b) if so, the findings thereof, State-wise; religious pluralism and tolerance; the Government of India should be recognized for its wiling ness to give (c) the locations where the production has been refuge to displaced victims of religious persecution; and started after setting up steel mills during the last two the people of the United States recognize and appreciate years; and the enormous contributions of India to the cause of religious harmony throughout the world. (d) the prospects of Iron-ore industry in the country and the programme formulated by the Government to encourage this industry? Pig Iron Plants THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF 6599. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR : Will the Minister STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and (b), of STEEL be pleased to state : The national mineral inventory is updated by the Indian (a) whether some major Pig Iron Plants are Bureau of Mines (IBM), Nagpur, based on the proposed to be set-up in the country in the private exploration and surveys undertaken by the Geological sector; and Survey of India, the Mining and Geological Departments , of the State Governments and other concerned agencies, (b) if so, the details of their capacity and employment generation potential? As per the latest mineral inventory prepared by the Indian Bureau of Mines (IBM), the recoverable reserves THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF of Haematite and Magnetite iron ores in the country as STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and (b). In on 1.4.90 are placed at 9602 million tonnes and 3143 the recent past, a number of entrepreneurs have shown million tonnes, respectively. interest to set up pig iron plants. Of these, as per information available, units with a capacity of Details of State-wise recoverable reserves of approximately 1.1 million tonnes per annum have been Haematite and Magnetite ore as on 1.4.90 are given in comissioned by the end or 1994, and a additional the Statement attached. capacity of approximately 1.7 million tonnes is already in various stages of implementation. These units are (c) No new steel plant using iron ore as basic raw primarily in the private sector. Employment generation material has come into production during the last two potential would depend on factors such as size, years. technology adopted and level of automation of individual (d) The demand for iron ore will go up as a result units. of increased domestic production or iron and steel to meet domestic and export requirements. Hyde' Pumped Storage Power Among the steps taken by Government to step up Project in W•• t Bengal the production of iron ore in the country are : 6600. SHRI BIR SINGH MAHATO : Will the Minister (i) Mining of iron ore has been removed from of POWER be pleased to state : the list of minerals reserved for exclusive (a) whether hydel pumped storage power project exploitation by the public sector. over Kistobazar Nala in Ayaddhya Hill in the district of (Ii) The mining law has been suitably amended Purulia In West Bengal has been sanctioned by the to encourage and facilitate investment, Government; and including foreign investment, in the minerai (b) if so, the details thereof? sector including iron ore. 69 Written Answers JYAISTHA' 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 70 STATEMENT allowed to award power projects to private promoters through MOU route or competitive bidding. Government State-wise, Recoverable reserves of Iron Ore of India has made it mandatory to award private power (Haematite and Magnetite) as on 1.4.1990 projects through competitIVe bidding after 18.2.1995. (in Million Tonnes) (c) to (e). Since bidding document would be project State Proved Probable Possible Total specific, it would not be feasible to develop a single model document. As such, Ministry of Power has circulated guidelines for competitive bidding route for HAEMATITE private power projects to the various State Govemments! Andhra Pradesh 3 6 37 47 UTs and has also advised them to avail of World Bank Bihar 1,387 1,229 351 2,967 loan administered by Power Finance Corporation under Goa 363 200 190 762 the Technical Assistance Programme for Private Power Development to hire consultants for various services Karnataka 511 253 165 929 required for awarding the projects through competitive Madhya Pradesh 901 463 681' 2,045 bidding including preparation of bid documents. Maharashtra 84 36 56 176 Orissa 1,441 632 594 2,667 Potential in North East Region Rajasthan 6 3 9 6603. SHRI LAETA UMBREY : Will the Minister of 2,088 9,602' Total 4,689 2,824 FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: MAGNETITE (a) whether the Government have any proposal to tap the huge potentials of Food Processing Industries Andhra Pradesh 38 380 418 in North-East Region; Bihar 2 2 5 (b) if so, the details thereof; Goa 65 4 96 165 (c) whether any survey has been conducted to Karnataka 1,663 371 484 2,518 ascertain the feasibility of such industries in the region; Kerala 24 11 35 (d) if so, the details of the survey report, State-wise; Rajasthan 1 and Tamil Nadu (e) if not, the reasons therefor? Total 1,766 782 595 3,143 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN • Total may not add up due to rounding off. GOGOI) : (a) to (e). Various surveys and studies conducted in the past in general indicate good potential [English] for agro processing industries, spices based products, medicinal aromatic plants, tea, cashewnuts, etc. In the Private Partners .for F-ower Projects North Eastern States. 6602. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: Besides, Plan assistance has also been extended by the Ministry or studies and preparation of techno- SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN OWAISI economic feasibility reports for the States or Assam, Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: Mizoram, Manipur and Nagaland. (a) whether the Union Government have taken a [Translation] decision that all State Governments would be allow~d to fix their own bench marks for selecting private partners for power projects; Food Processing Indumies In II.P. (b) If so, by which time that policy would be 6604. SHRt SURAJBHANU SOLANKt : implemented; SHRt ANANTRAO DESHMUKH (c) whether his ministry will present any final model SHRt V. KRiSHNA RAO : for the competitive bidding process; SHRt K.G. SHIVAPPA : (d) If so, by when and if not, the reasons therefor; SHRt SULTAN SALAHUDDIN OWAtSI and Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING (e) the other new guidelines issues by the UniQn INDUSTRIES .be pleased to state : Government In this regard? (al whether the Government have any proposal to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF set up food processing units in each State in the near POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): future; (a) and (b). Awarding private power projects. to the private (b) If so, the details thereof, State-wlse, particularly promoters Is within the competence of the State In the North-Eastern region, Madhya Pradesh and Govemments. Prior to 18.2.1995, State Govemments were Karnataka; 71 Written Answers MAY 22. 1995 Written fonswers 72 (c) whether the Government have cleared certain {English] proposals in this regard; (d) if so, the name of such proposals, State-wise; Dredging of Tuticorln P.ort (e) the total investments involved in these units, State-wise; 6606. SHR! KADAMBUR M.R. JANARTHANAN Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased (f) the percentage of investment to be made by to state: private foreign investors; (a) whether there is any proposal for urgent dredging (g) the details of proposals for setting up of food of the Tutieorin Port to a further depth of atleast four processing units received from both foreign and private feet; investors in the country; (b) if so, the details thereof; and (h) the details of export capacity thereof; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (i) the State-wise details of Food Processing Units still under consideration of the Government? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Yes Sir. FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI) : (a) to (e). Government do not set up any Food (b) A proposal for capital dredging of channel and Processing Unit directly in any State. However, the the basin of Tutieorin Port at an estimated cost of Rs. Min istry under its Plan Schemes extends financial 170 crores has been formulated to achieve a draft of assistance to State Government Organisationsl 10.7 mts as against the existing draft of 8.23 mts. Cooperatives/Voluntary Agencies etc. for setting upl (c) Does not arise. expansion/modernisation of Food Processing Units. (f) and (g). During the post liberalisation period, the {Translation] Govt. have approved some 587 proposals till January '95 for Foreign Investment, Export-Oriented Units, Incentives to Fertilizer Producers Industrial Licenses etc. envisaging a total investment of Rs. 7679 crores including foreign investment of Rs. 6607. DR. MAHADEEPAK SINGH SHAKYA 2528 crores for setting up of units in the various sectors SHRI NAVAL KISHORE RAI : of food processing. The foreign investment of Rs. 2528 crores is appox. 9.1 % of the total foreign investment Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS approved by the Government. Apart from the above. be pleased to state : 3101 Industrial Entrepreneur Memoranda envisaging (a) whether Government have implemented any an investment of Rs. 390.99 crores have beelJ. filed scheme to encourage the production of chemical upto March '95 in various sectors of food processing. fertilizers in the country during the Eighth Five Year (h) The targetted exports of the export-oriented units Pian; and is envisaged around Rs. 31340 crores during the first (b) if so, the total amount allocated for the five years of implementation. . implementation of this scheme and the amount actually (i) In view of reply to (a) above, does not arise. utilised, year-wise? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ~~INISTRY OF Trade Mission in Taipei CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS 6605. SHRIMATI KRISHNENDRA KAUR (DEEPA): AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN state: DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALERIO) : (a) and (a) whether the Indian Trade Mission has been set (b). No such scheme has beEtn implemented in the up in Taipei, Taiwan; context of the Eighth Five Year Plan. However. as a (b) if so, the objectives of the Mission; follow-up of recommendations of the Joint Parliamentary Committee on Fertilizer PriCing. the following reliefsl (c) whether Taiwan also propose to set up its concessions have been extended for the fertilizer Mission in India; and . industry to encourage production. (d) if so, the detai" thereof? (i) Customs duty on import of capital goods for THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI new fertilizer projects as well as for PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) and (b). A non-official entity modernisation/revamping of the exisitng called India-Taipei Association is being set up in Taiwan plants was abolished w.e.f. 23.1 .1992. to promote trade, investment and tourism links between India and Taiwan. (ii) The customs duty (15%) on phosphoric acid, 'used in the manufacture of phosphatic (c) and (d). It Is understood that an office of the fertilizers, was abolished on 27.8.1992. Taipei Economic and Cultural Centre, which would be non-official In character, is likely to be established in (iii) In the case of new fertilizer plants or revampl • New Delhi to promote trade, investment and tourism modernisation projects commissioned on or between India and Taiwan. after 1.1 .1991, a scheme was notified on 73 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 74 27.2.1993 for refund of customs duty paid on deep sea fishing units and inter-ministerial action has capital goods, as also a 3% concession in been 'initiated for implementation of thE? the interest rates on term loans. recommendations of the Committee. (iv) The rail freight was reduced on phosphatic fertilizers and their raw materials by about Bridge at Honnavar Rs. 1501- per 1000 Kms. w.e.f. &,9.1992. (v) To enable the domestic phosphatic fertilizer 6610. SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA URS : Will manufacturers to complete with cheaper the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to imported DAP, special concession of Rs. state: 10001- per tonne of indigenous DAP and (a) whether the Union Government have cleared proportionate concession on indigenous the rehabilitation of the bridge at Honnavar in Karnataka; complex fertilizers, including SSP, is being given. (b) if so, whether the tender for the work has been approved; (vi) A scheme of import substitution incentive has been implemented to encourage use of (c) the estimated cost of the project; and indigenous iron pyrites in the manufacture of (d) the time by which it is likely to be completed? phosphatic fertilizers. . THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF In addition, the retention price-cum-subsidy scheme SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) is continuing in the case of urea, which is the main and (b). Yes, Sir. nitrogenous fertilizer. (c) The cost of the project based on tender rates {English1 has been approved for Rs. 675 lakh. (d) The project is targetted to be completed by Fruits and Vegetables Industries August '96. 660B. DR. K.D. JESWANI : Will the Minister of Housing Scheme for Weaker Sections FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: (a) whether the installed capacity of fruit and 6611. DR. AMRIT LAL KALIDAS PATEL: Will the vegetable processing industries in each State has Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be increased considerably in the recent past; and pleased to state : (b) if so, the details thereof State-wise? (a) whether Government have launched a new THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF housing scheme for providing houses to people below FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN the poverty line and those belonging to the weaker GOGO I) : (a) and (b). installed capacity of the fruit and sections; vegetable processing industries has increased in all (b) if so, the details thereof; and the States, in comparison to the previous year, except (c) the amount earmarked for each State for in Haryana and Pondicherry. implementation of the above s.cheme? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Observer for Deep Sea Fishing URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. THUNGON) : (a) and (b). No new urban housing scheme 6609. SHRI HARILAL NANJI PATEL: Will the has been launched by Union Government for people Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be belonging to EWS. However, as a part of Rural Poverty pleased to state : Alleviation Programme, Government .of India has (a) whether the Government had posted an observer launched a Rural Housing Scheme during 1993-94 for in Gujarat and Vlsakhapatnam during Fishing Session the people below poverty line and persons belonging of 1994-95 to monitor the problems of the deep sea to the weaker sections of the society. fishing sector; Under this scheme, funds are provided to State in (b) If so, the details thereof; and proportion not exceeding 50% of the allocation made (c) the steps taken or propos.ed to be taken to by them for the Rural Housing Schemes including revive the sick units? institutional finance for weaker sections and families below the poverty line over and above the level of TJ:lE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF expenditure on such schemes achieved by them in FOOD PROCEESING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN 1992-93. . GOGOI) : (a) No, Sir. (c) During 1995-96, a provision of Rs. 45.00 crores (b) Does not arise. has been made as Central assistance for this scheme, (c) A Technical Committee on the deep sea fishing being implemented by the States. State-wise allocation Industry in India has submitted its report for revival of of the outlay has not been done so far. 75 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 76 Corporate Plans of SAIL Diesel Pump in Kandla Port Trust 6612. SHRI P.C. CHACKO: Will the Minister of 66~3. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : Will the Minister STEEL be pleased to state : of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (a) whether the Steel Authority of India Limited has (a) whether fishermen's cooperative society has drawn up some corporate plan upto 2005 A.D. in order applied ~or starting a diesel pump in Kandla Port Trust to meet competition from other products; area; and (b) if so, the details thereof and when the same will (b) so, the details thereof and the time by which be implemented; If the permiSSion for diesel pump is likely to be granted? (c) whether the SAIL have financial resources to implement its corporate pian; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) (d) if so, the details thereof and if not, the measures No, Sir.' being taken to mobilise finance from other sources; (b) Does not arise. (e) whether the Government propose to ask SAIL to explore possibilities to include Kerala in its corporate [Translation] plan in any way; and (f) if so, the details thereof and if not, the rea;;ons Production of Iron Ore therefor? 6614. SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL be pleased to state : STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Yes, Sir. Corporate Plan 2005 is a strategy document that seeks (a) whether several public sector units are engaged to make SAIL internationally competitive in cost and in production of iron-ore in the country; quality. (b) if so, the names of those units and the area of (b) The growth strategy outlined in the Corporate operation thereof; Plan is aimed at exploiting the laterst potential of SAIL planes through further modernisation and (c) whether the production made by these units is technological upgradation. No greenfield capacity in accordance with their annual targets; creation is envisaged. The crude steel capacity of (d) if so, the targets fixed by each of those units for the SAIL group is expected to grow to a level of 1 B.9 the year 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994-95; million tonnes (MT), in the year 2005. 100% of the steel would be produced by the BOF route and 97% (e) the production made by them during each of of the crude steel would be continuously cast. The these years, separately; plan aims at 30% reduction in specific energy (f) whether these units have suffered losses due to consumption and a, doubling of manpower not having their production as per their targets; and productivity by 2005. The exports are targetted to .an equivalent of 20% of saleable steel production, or (g) if so, the quantum thereof during the years 1992- around 3.5 MT by 2005. 93, 1993-94 and 1994-95? SAIL has undertaken a comprehensive THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF modernisation of its plants to, take care of the STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and (b). technological backlog and improve cost and quality of The major Central Public Sector Undertakings (PSUs) Ita pro Jcts. DSP and RSP are expected to be engaged in the production of iron are are (1) Steet mod4' .ed In the Bth Plan period, with RSP phase-2 Authority of Indian Limited (SAIL), (2) National 'Mineral me,... ,njution to be over by 1996-97. Steps have Development Corporation Limited (NMDC), and (3) already been initiated for phase-1 modernisation of BSL. Kudremukh IrOn Ore Company Limited (KIOCL). The (c) and (d). SAIL proposes to carry out locations of the Iron are mines being operated by these modernisation of its steel plants without any budgetary PSUs are as toUows: support, The detailed working of resources are 1. SAIL Singhbhum district (Bihar) calculated only for the five year period, coinciding with Durg district (Madhya Pradesh) the concurrent Five Vear Pian. For the 9th Plan period, SAIL would be financing its investments by internal Keonjhar & Sundergarh districts resource generation and through appropriate capital (Orlssai market IIwtruments. 2. NMDC' Sellary district (Karnataka) Ie) and (f). The existing Corporate Plan of SAIL Bastar district (Madhya Pradesh) don not envisage setting up of any steel making facilitie. by SAIL at Kerala. Moreover as a policy, 3. KIOCL Chlckmagalur district (Kamataka) Government do not propose to set up any new steeA (cl to·(e). The targets fixed for production of Iron are pian. in the public sector. for the 3 PSUs and the achievements against theae 77 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 78 targets have been as under: (In Million Tonnes) Name of PSU 1992·93 1993·94 1994-95 Target Actual Target Actual Target Actual SAIL 13.23 11.72 13.52 11.92 14.16 13.07 NMDC 11.00 12.21 11.00 12.75 11.20 13.02 KIOCL 5.17 5.01 6.2 6.2 6.2 5.71 (f) and (g). All the three PSUs made profit during THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF the years, 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994-95. CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS [English] AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMBn OF ELECTRONICS AND D~PARTMENT OF OCEAN Fruit Processing Industries in Bihar DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) There has been in general, no abnormal increase in the prices 6615. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : Will the Minister of medicines. On a point to point basis, the Wholesale of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to Price Index for Drugs and Medicines (1981-82= 100) state: has shown an increase of only 4.2% as against 8.6% for All Commodities during the last one year. (a) the latest position with regard to the fruit processing industries set up at Madhubani, Darbhanga (b) The number of formulations, in various pack and Oini in North Bihar; sizes and dosage forms runs into tens of thousands and the time and labour involved in compiling the (b) whether it is proposed to revive and run these information may not be commensur,,:' with the results industries in cooperative sector or to be taken over likely to be achieved. under the State sector or to be leased out to private sector to enable it to begin working during the coming [English] Mango season; Privatisation of Bailadila Mines (c) whether a group of experts are being sent to examine these three industries one by one and submit 6617. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: a rehabilitation report at the earliest; and SHRI PROMOTHES MUKHERJEE (d) if so, the details thereof? SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI) : (a) to (d). Cooperative Fruit Processing (a) whether attention of the Government has been Industries set up at Madhubani, Darbhanga and Oini drawn to the newsitem captioned "privatisation of (Wain i) in North Bihar are non-functional at present. Bailadila mines proposed' as reported in the 'Statesman' There is no proposal from concerned societies or the dated April 27, 1995; State Government seeking assistance for revival of these (b) if so, whether the Government have received a units and as such, no action or export study is series of objections against handing over of the National contemplated presently, to· make use of the Mango Minerals Development Corporation's 8ailadila Mines to season. Nippon Denro Ispat Limited; and (c) If so, the I:letails thereof and further reaction of [Translation] the Government thereto? Ri •• in Drug Pric•• THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Yes, Sir. 6616. SHRI PRABHU DAYAL KATHERIA : Will the (b) and (c). The iron ore available in Bailadila iron Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Ore Deposit 11-8 is reportedly best suited or production to state: of sponge iron in gas-based plants. A proposal is under consideration to take up development of Deposit 11-8 (a) whether the drug companies have raised the as a joint venture of the National Mineral Development prices of non-scheduled drugs and formulations too Corporation Limited (NMDC), and one' of the private much; and sector entrepreneurs who are operating or setting up a (b) the names of the products whose prices have gas based sponge iron plant in the country and who been raised over 75 per cent during the last three already have an assurance from NMDC to meet a years? substantial part of the plant's requirement of iron ore. In 79 Written Answers MAY 22. 1995 Written Answers 80 taking a final decision in this regard, the view" has also been tabled at the Conference on Disarmament expressed by all concerned will be taken into in Geneva. We will continue our efforts to create a consideration. consensus on this proposal in order that the conference on Disarmament can begin negotiations for global elimination of all nuclear weapons. . Fly Ash Bricks 6618. SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA RAO VADDE: Progress in F.P.I. Will the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : 6620. SHRI ANANTRAO DESHMUKH (a) the total quantity of fly ask that is coming out of PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : the Thermal Power Corporation in the country; and SHRI A. VENKATESH NAIK : (b) the quantum of fly ash out of the total quantity Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING being utilised in the manufacture of fly as bricks? INDUSTRIES be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether the food processing industries have URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. made good progress during the las~ two years; THUNGON) : (a) It is estimated that nearly 40 million (b) if so, the details of growth rate, State-wise; metric tonnes of fly ash is generated annually from the thermal power plant all over the country. The National (c) whether there are Still some States where food Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) operates ten coal- processing industry is yet to make any progress; based power stations producing about 16 million tonnes (d) if so, the details of those States; and of fly ash annually. (e) the details of steps taken to remove the regional (b) During 1993-94, NTPC had utilised over one imbalance and develop food processing industry in million tonnes of fly ash for manufacture of bricks and every State? other construction materials, which accounts for nearly 7% of ash generated by their plants. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGO I) : (a) Yes, Sir. Non-Proliferation Treaty (b) to (d). Information regarding growth rate of food 6619. DR. R. MALLU : Will the Minister of processing industries yearwise and statewise is not EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : maintained centrally. However, details of Industrial Entrepreneur Memoranda filed by the entrepreneurs (a) whether the Government are aware of the and approvals granted by the Government since deliberations that took place/taking place in the NPT liberalisation are given in the Statement attached. extension conference being held in New York; (e) In the post-liberalisation period entrepreneurs (b) it so, the reaction of the Government thereto; are free to invest in the areas of their choice. However, (c) whether the Government are exploring the with a view to encourage larger investment in the areas possibility of replacing the existing NPT with a universal, of the North-East and backward areas besides the non-discriminatory and verifiable regime; incentives being provided by the States, higher amount of assistance in the fruit and vegetables processing (d) if so, the status of the efforts being made by the sector and Meat and Poultry Processing Sector is Government in this regard; provided under the Plan schemes of the Ministry. (e) whether the Government propose to take-up with the Conference/Committee on Disarmament to start STATEMENT negotiations for a non-1:iiscriminatory treaty to ban and eliminate all nuclear weapons; and State-wise number of IEMS and Industrial approvals (1) if so, the details thereof? approved during the post liberalisation p9riod THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI S.No. Name of the State No. of No. of Industrial PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Yes, Sir. Government is IEMS Files Approvals aware that on 11 May, the States Parties decided to extend the NPT indefinitely 2 3 4 (b) Government has consistently maintained that 1. Andhra Pradesh 197 115 the NPT, in its present form, is a discriminatory treaty, and creates a permanent division between nuclear 2. Assam 3 "haves" and "have-nots". 3. Bihar 21 4 4. Gujarat 217 25 (c) to (f). India will continue its efforts for genuine nuclear disarmament on the basis of the Action Plan for 5. Haryana 352 39 a nuclear weapon free world put forward in 1SBS at the 6. Himachal Pradesh 36 12 Third Special Session on Disarmament (SSOn-IlI). This 7. Jammu & Kashmir 10 81 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 82 2 3 4 to answer the question. Moreover, it is also felt that time and efforts involved in collecting the material for 8. Karnataka 79 20 answering the question will not be commensurate with the results/purpose sought to be achieved. 9. Kerala 26 36 '10. Madhya Pradesh 268 15 [English] 11. Maharashtra 436 113 12. Manipur 0 0 Demurrage to Ship Owners 13. Meghalaya 1 0 14. Nagaland 0 6622. SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM : Will the Minister 15. Orissa 15 5 of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 16. Punjab 261 14 (a) the amount of foreign exchange paid in the 17. Rajasthan 298 28 financial years 1992-93, 19\13-94 and 1994-95 as 18. Tamil Nadu 113 41 demurrage (waiting cost) to ship owners (Indian or Foreign) for ships waiting to discharge/pick up dry cargo 0 19. Tripura for both import and export at ports in India; and 20. Uttar Pradesh 610 38 (b) the amount out of it paid specifically for the 21. West Bengal 74 10 import of fertilizer during the above period? 22. Sikkim 1 23. Andaman Nikobar 3 THE MINISTER OF STAT~ OF THE MINISTRY OF 24. Arunachal Pradesh o SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) and (b). The ports do not pay demurrage or waiting cost 2 25. Chandigarh to ship owners for ships waiting to discharge/pick up 26. Dadar & Nagar Haveli 11 dry cargo at ports; not do the ports charge demurrage 27. Delhi 42 2 on such ships. The charges towards ships' waiting cost, 28. Daman & Diu 7 if any, are being paid by the importers/exporters to the 29. L.M. & A Islands o 4 ship owners or their agents directly without involving 30. Mizoram o the ports in any manner. Such charges, as a normal practice, are included either in the freight and incidental 31. Pondicherry 12 2 charges or in the terms and conditions of the charter 7 17 32. Go.a party agreel'!1ents between the shippers and the shipping 33. Exact location notspecified/ lines concerned. units proposed are in more than one State 42 The Majority of the importers/exporters particularly after liberalisation and decontrol of many commodities Grant Total 31.01 587 by the Government, are private parties. Therefore, no statistics are being maintained about the monies paid [Trans/ation] by one private party to another; not would it be practicable, in view of the fact that thousands of Settlement Claims importers/exporters are dealing in multitudes of products/ commodities, through shipping lines the world over, at various minor and major ports in India. 6621. SHRI RAJENDRA KUMAR SHARMA : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Regional Passport Office, Gujarat (a) the number of cases for settlement of claims pending in the courts, prior to amendment made in the 6623. SHRI CHANDRESH PATEL: Will the Minister Merchant Shipping Act, 1958; of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (b) whether approval has been given to settle the (a) whether the Government have received any cases of claims without taking permission of the court; proposal from the Government of Gujarat and some other organisation to open more passport offices in (c) if so, the details thereof for the last two years; Gujarat; and , (b) if so, the details thereof and the response of the (d) the amount paid on the basis of the claims Union Government thereto; settled? (c) whether there is shortage of staff strength in the THE MINISTER 'OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF existing Passport Offices in that State; SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (f) the average time taken to issue an ordinary (b) Government are aware of the document titled passport and an emergency passport? "Islamic Declaration" which was authored by the current THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF President of Bosnia-Herzegovina several years ago. EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) and (b). (c) While the Resolution on Kashmir was withdrawn Government have not received any such proposal from without being put to vote at the UN Human Rights the State Government of Gujarat. However, some other Commissions in Geneva last year, Government are organisations have proposed opening of new offices in aware that Bosnia-Herzegovina had co-sponsored the Rajkot and Surat. Opening of new passport offices is Resolution. based on various parameters including workload and (d) India has recognised and established diplomatic financial resources. Standing Committee of Parliament relations with all the emergent States of the former on External Affairs have recommended, inter-alia, that YugosloilVia. We have good relations with these States one Passport Office be located a centrally as possible and have hosted visits to India by the Foreign Ministers in contiguous blocks/wards/districts/States which, on of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia- average generate 50,000 applications per year. Total Montenegro) in October, 1993 and Croatia in April, 1995. number of applications received from the entire State of India's position on the Bosnian crisis is understood and Gujarat during the year 1994 was 98,943 and PO, appreciated by all these States. Ahemedabad has been found to be adequately equipped for dealing with. this number. (e) and (f). Government have followed the developments in the former Yugoslavia with attention (c) and (d). Considering the input of applications and concern. The then Minister of State of Ext!1rnal during 1994 (Jan-Dec.) the existing staff strength is Affairs had made a suo moto statement on the subject considered adequate. in both Houses as far back as on 11.5.1992. A copy is (e) Number of applications received and number of attached. passports issued during the period 1.1.94 to 30.4.95 India has recognised all the States of the former were 131477 and 186881 respectively. Yugoslavia within their old, i.e. ex-Yugoslav, borders and (f) Average time taken in issuing a fresh passport we seek to expand our relations with them on the basis was 56 days as on 31.1.95. However, subject to the of the excellent historical and people-to-people contacts applicant fulfiHing certain prescribed conditions, which which we had with them in the past. We condemn ethnic have been communicated to the Standing Committee, cleansing, rape and other atrocoties, regardless of a passport can be issued on out-of-turn basis. whichever party has committee them, and find these practice to be abhorrent and unacceptable. We have consistently called on the parties concerned to eschew Invitation to Bosnian Foreign Minister the futile pursuit of military solutions and to enter into negotiations for a political settlement in a constructive 6624. MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) BHUWAN CHANDRA spirit. We believe that only a political settlement which is KHANDURI : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS just, fair, equitable and broadly acceptable to all the be pleased to state : concerned parties can endure on the ground. (a) whether the Government have invited Bosnia's (g) Does not arise. Foreign Minister or any other dignitary to visit India; (b) if so, whether the Government are aware of the Copy of the Suo moto Statement documents titled "Islamic Declaration" authorised by ~osnian President; Hon'ble Member win have followed closely the (c) whether Bosnia had co-sponsored Pakistan'S recent developments in what was the Socialist Federal resolution or Kashmir at Geneva last year; Republic of Yugoslavia and which had comprised six republics, namely, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, (d) whether Government are aware of the support Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia. Last year India would lose of other new States in the area by a series of major political developments took place in appeasing Bosnia; that country which led to the creation of five international (e) whether the Government have formulated an entities. The new Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, overall strategy in this regard; declared on 27th of last month, comprises Serbia and Montenegro. The four other States have declared their (f) if so, the details thereof; and independence and Slovenia Croatia and Bosnia- (g) if answer to (a) is 'no' whether the Government Herzegovina have been recognised by a large number are planning to extend any such invitation in future? of nations in the International community, including THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF virtually all the States In Europe. . EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED) : It has been decided by Government that we shall :(a) The proposed visit by the Bosnian Foreign Minister now accord recognition and enter into diplomatic to India is at the initiative of the Bosnian Government. relations with the Republic of Slovenia, Croatia and Govemment of India have accepted the visit in principle, Bosnia-Herzegovina. In regard to the Federal Republic though dates for the visit have yet to be worl:d out of Yugoslavia, no new initiative Is required since our through diplomatic channels. diplomatic mission in Belgrade will continue. to be 85 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 86 accredited to that country. We will be in touch with the (b) if so, the action taken by the DDA thereon: Governments of slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia- (cl whether the DDA propose to change the Herzegovina to establish diplomatic ties and determine nomenclature of the land earmarked for a nursery school which of our ·Embassies in Europe will be concurrently for the construction of CGHS dispensary; and 'accredited to those States. (d) ~ so, the details thereof? In regard to Macedonia, very few countries have recognised the new independent state and a controversy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF over its name is yet to be resolved. Government proposes URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. to extend recognition to the Republic of Macedonia as THUNGON) : (a) Yes, Sir. soon a Number of States in its region do so. (b) to (d). The Delhi Development Authority has Government has been watching the developments reported that the land use of the site earmarked for in the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Nursery School in Anand Vihar Co-operative Group with great attention. The establishment of the new federal Housing Society for allotment of land for CGHS Republic of Yugoslavia which has implicitly recognised d.ispensary needs to be changed. the other four States necessitates that we need no longer wait before recognition of the new entities that have Pepsi Foods emerged from the former SFRY. I am confident that Hon'ble Members will join me 6627. SHRI CHHITUBHAI GAMIT : Will the Minister· in extending our good wishes to the newly independent of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to republic and welcoming them into the comity of nations. state: We also express the hope that the difficulties faced by (a) whether the Government propose to allow Pizza some of these new countries among themselves, and in Huts/Kentucky Fried Chicken to be set up by Pepsi resolving outstanding issues caused by the dissolution Food and other Fast Food Establishments; of the SFRY, will be peacefully and amicably resolved. (b) if so, the reasons for permitting the foods that are harmful to health; and Sinking of Dredger (c) the details of plans to keep a check on the quality of animalslbirds used in non-vegetarian food? 6625. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN (a) whether any dredger sank at the ship repairing GOGOI) : (a) to (c). Government have approved yard at Vizag in March, 1995; proposals of Mis. Pizza Hut, MIs. KFC and MIs. (b) ~ so, the details thereof t~e the reasons therefor; Mcdonalds for setting up fast food establishments to (c) whether there is any possibility for its retrieval; serve various types of food products which inter-alia and include pizza with vegetarian and non-vegetarian toppings, potato products like french fries, mashed potato (d) if so, the details thereof and the action being products, salads, milk products, burgers with different taken in this regard? types of fillings including .fish, chicken, vegetables, etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF No authentic scientific data regarding harmful effect on SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) health by the products served by these companies to (d). Yes, Sir. Dredger, Mondovi-II, belonging to elsewhere are available. However, products to be sold Dredging Corporation of India Ltd. capsized on 26.3.95 in India will be subject to Indian food laws including due to accidental flooding of the compartment of the Prevention of Food Adulteration Act, 1954. These dredger while It was berthed at Hindustan Shipyard's companies propose to source most of the raw materials wet basin after dry-docking and repairs. For the purpose including meats of animals and birds from the Indian of retrieving the sunken dredger the work has since suppliers. Quality of animals and birds used for been awarded to Mis. Smith International, Singapore. production of meats and poultry products by these suppliers are subject to. veterinary inspection laws prevalent in the country. These companies also propose Allotment of Plot in Anand Vihar to have tneir in-house quality inspection system for the items sourced from the suppliers and for preparation of 6626. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH the food. SHRI SURAJ. MANDAL : Will the Minister of URBAN AFFAiRS AND GSI Survey of Tamil Nadu EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : (a) whether the DDA has received requests from 6628. DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN : Will the Minister CGHS to allot a plot in Anand Vihar, Delhi for the of MINES be pleased to state : construction of a CGHS dispensary; (a) whether the Geological Survey of India (GSI) 87 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 88 has conducted any survey to assess the availability of aluminium in the country during the last three years is iron ore deposits in Tamil Nadu during the last three indicated below : years; and (Unit: lonnes) (b) if so, the details thereof? Year Production Domestic THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Consumption MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA): (a) No, Sir. (b) Does not arise. 1992-93 4,84,913 3,70,000 1993-94 4,64,718 4,10,000 [Trans/ation] 1994-95 4,80,262 4,71,500' (Provisinal) Smuggling Activities at Main Port • Assuming a 15% growth in demand. 6629 SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria) : Will the (c) Yes, Sir. Minls!el of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (d) and (e). The Madras Aluminium Company (a) the income earned by the Ministry from main Limited (MALCO) being a sick unit is not in production. port trusts of India such as Kandla, Tulticorin, Madras, The Belgaun Smelter of India Aluminium Company Bombay and Cochin; Limited (INDAL) was shut down since August, 1992 (b) the number of incidents of .seizure of smuggled due to steep increase in power tarrif but recently some goods on the main ports; and pots have been re-energised. (c) the action taken by the department against those employees and officers of port trusts, who were found (Translation] Involved in these incidents? Investment in Shipping Sector THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) 6631. SHRI SURENDRA PAL PATHAK : Will the This Ministry dpes not directly earn any income from Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state the Major Port Trusts. The income generated by the Port the total capital investment made in Shipping sector trusts remain with them: During the year 1994-95 the during the last three years as a result of liberalised total operating income and finance & miscellaneous policies of the Government? . income of the major ports of Kandla, Tuticorin, Madras, Bombay and Cochin was Rs. 1132.56 'crores THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF {provisional). SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) Investment to the tune of 1334.69 million US $ has (b) and (c). The information is being collected and been made both in the private sector as also ihe public would be laid on the Table of the House. sector during the last 3 years, Le. from 1991-92 to 1994-95, as per the records maintained by Shipping (English] Credit and Investment Company o.f India Limited and Aluminium Production Shipping Corporation of India Limited. (English] 6630. SHRI GOPI. NATH GAJAPATHI . Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state Ceiling on Railway Freight (a) the production and consumption of aluminium in the country during the last three years, year-wise; 6632. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAl : Will the (b) whether the indigenous production of aluminium Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : is insufficient to meet .the country's requirement; (a) whether his Ministry had put up a proposal to (c) if so, whether aluminium is being imported to the Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) for meet the demand-supply gap; abolition of the existing ceiling on railway freight so that the main steel producers - Steel Authority of India (d) whether the Madras Aluminium Company and limited (SAil), Tata Iron and Sleel Company (TISCO) . the Belgaun Aluminium Smelter have been closed and Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Limited (RINL) - can charge down; and from their consumers; (e) if so, the reasons therefor? (b) the genesis of this freight ceiling abolition THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF against the backdrop of the abolition of the freight MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA) : (a) and (b). equalisation scheme for steel projects in January 1992; The production and approximate consumption of primary and 89 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 90 (c) the extent to which it is likely to benefit the (b) As per the information furnished by Ministry of consumers? Finance the maximum limits for grant of House Building Advance to various categories of staff in the public THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF sector banks are as follows STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) to (c). After deregulation of pricing and distribution of steels, the main Category of staff Maximum limit of HBA producers are charging actual freight upto the stockyards or freight element as existed under the earlier Freight 1. Subordinate Staff Rs. 1.00 Lakh Equalisation Scheme whichever is lower. The extra 2. Clerical Cadre Rs. 1.50 Lakh burden on this account is being borne by the main 3. Officers in JMGS-I Rs. 2.00 Lakh producers themselves. The main steel producers have 4. Officers in MMGS-II Rs. 2.50 Lakh stated that with the reduction of duties on steel imports and above and increased competition from doemstic producers, the freight ceiling only on the main producers places them at Though the admissibility of House Building Advance a disadvantage. They have therefore represented that the is reckoned differently in both the cases, the maximum main producers should be allowed to charge freight on amount of HBA admissible remains the same. actuals. The matter is under examination. (c) Does not arise in view of (a) and (b) above. Vehicular Pollution [Translation] 6633. SHRI M.G. REDDY Will the Minister of Mining in Raipur SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether the pollution under check (PUC) rule is 6635. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VARMA: Will the not applicable to diesel vehicles; Minister of MINES be pleased to state : (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (a) the steps taken by the Government for mining of the newly discovered diamond and gold deposits in (c) the mechanism by which the pollution caused Raipur district of Madhya Pradesh; by diesel vehicles would be kept under check? (b) whether any scheme is underway in Raipur for l1-IE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF imparting technical training in mining; and SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER) : (a) No, Sir. (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) and (c). Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA) : (a) to (c). The information is being collected and will be laid on the House Building Advance limit Table of the House. 6634. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ : Will the {English] Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : Government Flats at Timarpur (a) the maximum house building advance limits for 6636. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI : Will different categories of Central Government employees; the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (b) the manner in which these limits compare with be pleased to state : the prevailing housing advance levels of the (a) whether attention of the Government has been corresponding categories in the banking industry; and drawn to the news-item captioned "Timarpur mein chaar (c) the anomalies, .if any, and in what manner the so sarkari flaton ke jang se khokhle hone ki chetawani" Government propose to remove them and by when? appearing in the Jansatta dated April 22, 1-995; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) if so, the facts thereof and the action taken URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. thereon by the Government; THUNGON) : (a) According to the house building (c) when these flats were constructed; Advance Rules the maximum advance admissible to a Central Government employee is his 50 nfonths' payor (d) whether there is any proposal to inquire into the Rs. 2.50 lakhs whichever is less. There is no alleged laxity and connivance of the civil engineers with the contractors; categorisation, as such, among the Central Government employees on the basis of the post held etc. (e) if so, the details thereof; and 91 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 92 (f) the approximate loss the Government is going to consideration and the subsidy borne by Government suffer on the demolition of these houses? thereon are given below : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Year C&F value of Subsidy on fertilizers URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. fertilizers imported imported on Govern- THUNGON) : (a) Yes, Sir. on Government ment account (b) Out of total 4000 flats (Type-II quarters), the account (Rs, crores) (Rs. crores) condition of 300 quarters is satisfactory and the remaining 100 quarters have been declared dangerous 1992-93 2216.00 999.82 and special repair work is in progress and is likely to 1993-94 1300.18 598.97 be completed shortly. 1994-95 1785,11 1166,02 (c) During 1970. (d) The desired information is as follows : (d) No, Sir. Year Gross expen- Subsidy Percentage (e) and (f). Do not arise. diture on borne reduction fertilizers by the in average [Translation] import on Government price Government Subsidy on Imported Fertilisers account (Rs. crores) (Rs. crores) 6637. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE RAI : 1992-93 2802,99 999,82 35.67% DR. CHINTA MOHAN : 1993-94 1649.99 598.97 36.30% Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 1994-95 2031.98 1166.02 57.38% be pleased to state : (a) the quantum and value of the fertilisers imported [English] during 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994-95; (b) whether the Government provide heavy Mining in Sikklm subsidies on the import of fertilisers every year; 6638. SHRIMATI DIL KUMARI BHANDARI : Will (c) if so, the amount given by the Government as the Minister of MINES be pleased to state the number subsidy on imported fertilisers during the above period, of mines under public sector and private sector in the year-wise; and State of Sikkim? (d) the percentage reduction in prices of fertilisers THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF every year on account of these subsidies? MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA) : The Indian THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Bureau of Mines has stated that as per their records, CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF there is only one mine in Sikkim, which is operated by STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Mis. Sikkim Mining Corporation, a Public Sector AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF Undertaking. ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) to Offer of Talks By Pak (c). The details of the major fertilizers imported during the years 1992-93 to 1994-95 are as under: 6639. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO : (Figures in lakh tonnes) SHRI SRIKANTA JENA : Fertilizers Imported 92-93 94-95 SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN OWAISI 18.57 28.40 28.84 Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased 10 state: 15.57 15.69 8.25 17.61 14.28 18.48 (a) whether Pakistan has sent any communication to the Government after the recent visH of the Prime • Figures of imports effected after decontrol and Minister of Pakistan to the US, In regard to their decanalisation are only approximations. willingness to have talks with India on outstanding The cost and freight value of the fertiUzers imported bilateral issues; on Government account during the period under (b) If 80, the details thereof; 93 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 94 (c) whether the Government have accepted the A decision on the development of this canal system proposals; would depend on the finding of the techno-.conomic feasibility study. (d) if so, whether any agenda and time has been fixed for the talks; and [Translation] \ (e) ~ so, the details thereof? Construction of Flat. by DOA THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) No, Sir. 6641. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH (b) Does not arise. DR. RAMKRISHNA KUSMARIA (c) to (e). Government's stand regarding dialogue SHRI RAJESH KUMAR with Pakistan is well-known. We are ready to hold SHRIMATI SHEELA GAUTAM unconditional bilateral talks with Pakistan to resolve Will the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND all differences within the framework of the Simla EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state Agreement. We have urged Pakistan to respond with sincerity to our repeated offer of talks. Setting of (a) the' total number of flats constructed by Delhi conditions and preconditions for such talks, as Development Authority during the last three years; Pakistan has been doing, does not, in our view, (b) the number of flats to be built every year in view constitute a posstitive approach. of the increasing population of Delhi, as well as to overcome the scarcity of the flats; Buckingham Canal (c) whether the Delhi Development Authority propose to formulate any scheme to overcome the 6640. SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : Will the shortage of flats; and Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (d) ~ so, the details thereof? (a) whether the Union Government have deferred THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF the State Government proposal for the revival of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. Buckingham canal in the Eighth Plan Period; THUNGON) : (a) DDA has reported that 23,381 flats (b) if so, the reasons therefor; have been constructed by it during the last three years. (c) whether the Inland Waterways Authority of India (b) to (d). To overcome the shortage of houses in is examining the possibility to make the project Delhi, DDA responds by introducing new schemes for technically and economically viable; and allotment of flats from time to time. DDA also allots (d) ~ so, by what time final decision is likely to be lands to Cooperative Group Housing Societies .. There is taken in this regard? a provision of 400 plots in Dwarka and Narela for allotment to Cooperative Group Housing Societies in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF which 33,000 dwelling units will come up. DDA has SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) recently offered about 3000 flats under VII SeH Financing to (d). For the South Buckingham Canai running between Scheme and about 8000 flats under the Expandable Madras and Marakkanam, no proposal has been Housing Scheme-1995. Besides, about 3000 flats are received from the Government of Tamil Nadu for its to be offered under the VIII Self Financing Scheme. The revival. However, a Centrally Sponsored Scheme for sale of brochures for this scheme will commence from developing the stretch from Ennore South Lock to 25.5.1995. Chintamani Lock was sanctioned by the Government of India in May, 1987 at a cost of Rs. 200.00 lakhs. The Peace-keeping Force to Rwanda scheme had been kept in abeyance from January, 1991. As regards the North Buckingham Canal, a Centrally 6642. DR. RAMKRISHNA KUSMARIA : Will the Sponsored Scheme was submitted by the Government Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : of Andhra Pradesh in 1988. The matter was examined (a) whether the Government propose to send Indian in consultation with the State Governments of Andhra Peace Keeping Force to Rwanda to assist in repatriation Pradesh and Tamil Nadu. Ultimately, it was decided by of the displaced persons in Keisehi Refugee camp: and the Inland Waterways Authority of India (IWAI) to carry out the techno-economic feasibility study on the entire (b) if so, the details thereof? canal system connecting Kakinada and Madras which THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI includes Kakinada, Eluru, Commamuru and the PRANAB MUKHEAJEE) : (a) and (b). The Indian Buckingham Canal. The field study had already been contingent to the UN Assistance Mission in Rwanda completed and the IWAI's Consultants, RITES have since has not been involved in repatriation of the displaced submitted the draft report. persons, except for providing ten vehicles. 95 Wriff9n Answ9rs MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 96 [English] (b) if so, whether the original construction cost of the project has increased; Ra.htriya Chemicals and Fertilizers (c) if so, the details thereof; 6643. SHRI S.M. LALJAN BASHA : (d) whether the said project is likely to be completed SHRI RAM NAIK : within the stipulated period; and (e) if so, the details. therefor? Will th~ Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether there has been a leakage of toxic gases POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): (a) Yes, Sir. from the factory of Rashtriya Chemicals and Fertilizers (RCF) in Bombay, recently; (b) and (c). The Project was sanctioned in June (b) if so, the details and reasons therefor; 1989 at an estimated cost of Rs. 1632.62 crores. The present estimated cost of the project is Rs. 3070.67 (c) whether the Government have conducted any crores . • enquiry into this incident; (d) and (e). The project was originally scheduled to (d) if so, the findings thereof; be commissioned by Novemeber, 1995, but the progress (e) the compensation paid to the affected persons on the project has been affected by the law and order and the steps taken to prevent such incidents in future; situation in Jammu & Kashmir and it is now expected and to be commissioned in May' 97. (f) the number of incidents of ammonia leakage [English] detected at RCF=, Bombay duri~g the last three y~ars, year-wise? Manufacturing of Cans THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS, AND MINISTER OF 6645. SHRI RAM NIHOR R~I : Will the Minister of STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF (a) whether the Government propose to set up small ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN scali industries for manufacturing of cans required for DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) and food processing industries in the country; (b). There was an accidental release of ammonia gas (b) If so, the details thereof; and on 13.4.1995 for a very short duration at the Trombay plant of Rashtriya Chemicals and Fertilizers (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Limited(RCF) due to· maHunctioning of control valves! THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF transmitter. FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN (c) to (e). Since the release of ammonia gas was GOGO I) : (a) to (c). This Ministry does not set up units accidental and for a very short duration, causing no 'lbr can manufacturing directly. Presently, a good number loss of life or propoerty, the question of ordering an of small units are producing cans and containers other enquiry into the incident by the Government or payment than Open Top Sanitary cans which are required for of compensation does not arise. With a view to avoiding packaging of certain varieties of food product; and, Open recurrence of such incidents, the control valve has been Top Sanitary cans which are required for packaging modified and the company has undertaken study of the specified varieties of food products are being prduced plant to identify any possibility of leakage from any in few large scale units. There are also a few units other point. producing aluminium cans for use in food industry. (f) One ammonia emission incident has occurred on 8.6.1994 from another plant of ReF due to process Road Accidents' upsets, but there was no loss of life or property. 6646. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI [Translation] SHRI N. DENNIS : SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : Uri Hydel Power Project In Kashmir Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be 6644. DR. CHINTA MOHAN : Will the Minister of pleased to state : POWER be pleased to state : (a) whether the Government propose to take some (a) whether Uri Hydel Power Project on Jhelum effective steps to curb the rising incidents of roads with capacity of 480 MW is under construction in North accidents; and Kashmir region; (b) If so, the details thereof? 97 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answflrs 98 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF 2 3 SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) Yes, Sir. 9. 6 Minor bridge in Km.504/565 (II) With a view to check the rising trend of road 10. 6 Minor bridge in Km.166/200 accidents, the Government have started a massive public 11. 6 Minor bridge in Km .17211 000 awareness campaign. This includes strengthening of driving training facilities, conducting of Essay 12. 6 Major bridge across Nalganga river competitions among the school children, helping on in Km. 351/1000 road safety marches and other publicity measures 13. 7 Minor bridge in Km.48/500 through Press and Media. Besides certain amendaments 14. 7 Minor bridge in Km.154/800 have been made in the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 with 15. 9 Bridge on Pakni Nalla in Km.230/800 a view to provide for stringent punishemnt for violation of traffic related rules. The Government has also been Total 15 bridges providing assistance to the State Governments in cash and kind to strengthen their road safety JTleasures. It has also been decided to observe the year 1995 as Diamond Mining Road Safety Year and further strengthen the road safety programmes in the country. 6648. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA [Trans/ation] SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH DRONA Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state Bidges in Maharashtra (a) the location and other details of diamond mi.ne$ in the country; 6647. SHRI DATTA MEGHE : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) the -profits earned/losses suffered by these mines (a) the number of bridges constructed on the during the last three years, year-wise; National Highways in Maharashtra during 1994-95; (c) whether incidence of diamond and alexanderite (b) the details thereof, location-wise and name- has been located in Manipur and in Devbhog area in wise; and Raipur, Madhya Pradesh; and (c) the total expenditure incurred thereon? (d) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA) : (a) The only Fifteen. diamond mine in the country is located in Panna district 01 Madhya Pradesh and is operated by M/s. National (b) Details are given in the Statement attached. Mineral Development Corporation. The mine produces (c) Rs. 13 crore. 18,000 carats 01 diamonds per year. Some private operators however, also recover diamonds on appermlt STATEMENT system for shallow mines in Panna District of Madhya Pradesh. S.No. N.H. Details of work (b) Profits/josses suffered during the last 3 years is as under 2 3 Year Profits Losses 1. 3 Reconstruction of Minor bridge across Deori Nalla in Km.329/900 1990-91 51.07 lakhs 2. 3 Nagaon bridge at Km.253/200 1991-J2 79.51 lakhs 3. 3 Major bridge across Godavari river in 1992-93 80.76 lakhs Km.41S/200 4. 4 Flyover bridge on westerly diversion (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. As per investigation carried out of Pune city at ch.29/139 to ch.29/396 by Geological Survey of India and Directorate of Geology and Mining, Madhya Pradesh, possibilities of 5. 4 Viaduct to flyover bridge of Westerly diversion outside Pune city at ch.281 occurrences of Diamond and Alaxanckite are found in 1739 to 29/139 on ch. 29/396 to 291 some parts of Raipur district (Madhya Pradesh). 521 Kimberlite bodies are discovered at Behradill, Payalikhand, Jhangra and Kodamali. Occurrences of 48 Three minor bridges at ch.800, other precious stones like alexandrltes, garnet etc. are ch .1820 and ch. 4049 also confirmed from these areas. 99 Written Answers MAY 22. 1995 Written Answers 100 Indian Council for World Affairs (b) the names of the countries which ae collaborating in these road projects; and 6649. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : (c) the time by which these projects are likely to be MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) BHUWAN CHANDRA completed? KHANDURI : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : la) to state: to (c). The Central Government is primarily responsible (a) whether the Government have instituted any for development and maintenance of national highways enquiry into the functioning, organisational deficiencies and all roads other than National Highways are and library system of Indian council of World Affairs essentially the responsibility of the concerned State (ICWA); Governments The National Highway projects being (b) if so, the findings of the enquiry; and built with external aid are as under (c) the steps taken/proposed to be taken to revamp Foreign Aid No. of Projects Target date of the functioning of the Indian Council of World Affairs? Agency completion THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) No, Sir. World Bank 6 30.6.2001 (b) Does not arise. Asian Development Bank 12 31.12.1999 (c) The Indian Council of World Affairs (ICWA) is an Overseas Economic autonomous body. For quite some time, it is facing some Co-operation 5 28.2.2002 problems and there have been demands, both in Fund (Japan). Parliament and outside, for its take over and to revamp its functioning. After extensive consultations, the Government have decided to appoint a high-powered Construction work on National Highway-52 advisory/sliperivsory committee to look into the functioning of the ICWA and to suggest steps to be 6652. SHRI LAETA UMBREY : Will the Minister of taken to revamp its functioning. However. as the Council SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : is an autonomous body, the Government have no control (a) progress of the construction work on National over it. Any Supervisory/advisory committee can only Highway-52 in Arunachal Pradesh; be constituted in pursuance of a request made by this Organisation. The governing body of the Council is (b) whether these has been a reduction in Fund presently being persuaded to pass a resolution Allocation on this road; and requesting the Government to set up such a high- (c) if 50, the details thereof; and the reasons powered committee. therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF National Highway in Gujarat SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) Out of the total length of 337 km of National Highway- 6650. SHRIMATI BHAVNA CHIKHLlA : Will the 52 which falls in Arunachal Pradesh, the formation Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: work on 143 kms and pavement work on 129 kms have (a) the last time when a State Highway was declared been completed upto September, 1994. . as a National Highway in Gujarat; and (b) and (c). Due to budgetary constraints, it is not (d) the details in this regard? possible to meet the full reqUirement of the National THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Highways in the country Including National Highway-52 SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) in Arunachal Pradesh. and (b). A new National Highway having a length of 140 Kms from Beabar to Radhanpur (NH No. 14) was [Translation] added to the National Highway System in the Year 1989 in the State of Gujarat. Steel Plants in Madhya Pradesh Foreign Assiated Road Projects 6653. SHRI SURAJBHANU SOLANKI : Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : 6651. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY : (a) whether the Union Government have received SHRt RAM VILAS PASWAN any proposal from Madhya Pradesh Government Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be regarding the issuance of letter of intent for setting up pleased to state : of steel plants in private sector; (a> the total number of highways/national highways (b> if so, the details thereof; and that are under construction with foreign collaboration at (c) the names of the private companies approved present; by the State Government, for the purpose? 101 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 102 THE MINISTER OF STATE 01= THE MINISTRY OF up a wholly owned subsidiary in India for developing STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV) : (a) Under and operating the restaurants through (a) limited number the New Industrial Policy announced in July, 1991,' iron by the subsidiary; (b) joint ventures between the and steel' industry has been removed from the list of McDonaid Indian subsidiary and the Indian partners: indu$tries reserved for public sector and has also been and (c) the Indian licencees. This approval envisages exempted nom the purview of compulsory licensing, a total investment of US $ 40 million during the initial except for certain locational restrictions. No industrial seven years and foreign equity amounting to RS $ 1 licence is, therefore, required to set up a steel plant lakh which will be increased to US $ 20 million in the The Union Government has not received any proposal initial seven years, The proposal will be foreign from Madhya Pradesh Government regarding the exchange neutral for saven years and no repatriation of issuance of letter of intet for setting up of steel plants dividend will be done during the first seven years of in private sector. operation. The project is expected to generate total employment of 3400 persons, bring in the technologies (b) and (c) Do not arise. for upgrading' the facilities of the suppliers, bring in belter management techniques for operation of such Income from National Highways chains and create possibilities for eventual export of products to McDonald's chain elsewhere. Till date, no 6654, SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR : Will retaurant has been opened, the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: SAARC Strategy (a) the income from the National Highways during the last three years, year-wise: 6656. DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (b) the other details in this regard: and (a) whether member countries of SAARC have (c) the break-Up of source from which the said decided to formulate a uniform strategy to combat income has been accrued? terrorism; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (b) if so, whether any action programme has been SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) worked out in this regard; to (c). Revenue on National Highways is generated (c) if so, the salient features thereof and the time by only through levy of fees on permanent bridges costing which the same is likely to be implemented; more than Rs. 100 lakhs. The income generated on this account during the last three years is as under (d) whether the Government have offered to provide any advance training to the other member countries; Year Bridge Fee Collection (e) if so, the details thereof; (Rs. in lakhs) (f) whether any dissent view has been registered 1992-93 3124.32 by any member country to this strategy to combat terrorism; and 1993-94 3645.91 1994-95 4483.86 (g) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI {English] PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (g). The SAARC Regional Convention on Suppression MI •• McDonald Corporation of USA of Terriorism signed in Kathmandu in November 1987, entered into force on 22 August 1998, following 6655. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of ratification by all Member States. FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: The convention embodies and gives legal sanction (a) the terms and conditions set up between the within a regional framework, to the internationally parties MIs McDonald Corporation of USA and Indian accepted principles of non-use of the territory of one entrepreneurs approved by the Government for opening/ Member State to commit terroristic acts in that of another, operating restaurants at various places in the country; treatment of offences under the Convention as non- (b) whether the agreement has come into force; political for purposes of extradition and obligation to and extradite or prosecute terroristic offenders. Under the Convention, the contracting Parties are obliged to afford (cl if so, the reasons and rationale thereof? maximum judicial assistance, in accordance with THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF national laws, in legal proceedings in respect of terrorist FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN offences, ana to undertake cooperative measures GOGOI) : (a) to (c). The Government have approved the consistent with national laws to prevent activities through proposal of MIs. McDonald Corporation of USA to set precautionary measures, .103 Writt9n Answers MAY 22. 1995 Written Answers 104 At successive SAARC Summits, the Heads of State power projects being set up would operate on coal or or Government have unequivocally condemned all acts, with a dual fuel capacity. Projects that will use the latter methods and practices of terrorism as criminal and will be able to switch over to natural gas at a later deplored its adverse impact on socio-economic stage, when it is made available. development and political stability, regional peace and cooperation. [Translation] The SAARC Council of Ministers had, in December International Ports 1992, endorsed the recommendation for convening an annual meeting of authorised Liaison Officers of the 6658. DR. P.R. GANGWAR : Will the Minister .of Member States on Suppression of terrorism. Pursuant SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : to this decision, the Liaison Officers have met in Dhaka (a) whether some ports have been accorded the In _February 1994 and in New Delhi in March 1995 and status of International Port and some others have been 88 a result of their recommendations : closed down; and A SAARC Terrorist Offences Monitoring Desk (b) if so, the details thereof? (STOMD) has been established in Colombo in- January 1995, to work as an effective data bank and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF dissemination centre on the nature, extent, magnitude SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) and trends of terrorism in the region, storing and No, Sir. disseminating information and trends which would help (b) Does not arise. to curb and eardicate this menace. On the need-to- know basis Member States will supply the STOMD with [English] relevant data on terrorist activities, tactics, strategies, methodologies and profiles. Ban on Textile Dyes The security agencies of the Member States have agreed to keep heightened vigilance and surveillance 6659. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE : on the points of manufacture, storage, supply routes SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE and use of illegal arms and effectively stop this flow at Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS various points. be pleased to state : APpropriate arrangements will- be initiated for (a) whether the Government propose to ban the training of security personnel in the existing security manufacture and sale of certain textile dyes; Institution 6f member countries. In this context, the (b) if so, the details thereof and the reasons therefor; Govemment of India has offered to make available its institutionslfacilities for imparting training in counter (c) the time by when a final decision is likely to be terrorism to officials from Member Countries. taken in this regard; Annual meeting of Liaison officers would continue (d) whether the Government are exploring new to be held at regular in~ervals in order to monitor, markets for indigenously produced dyes; and update, evaluate and improve counter-terrorism (e) if so, the details and outcome thereof? strategies. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS, AND MINISTER OF SoU1hem Power Grid Plan STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 6657. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY : Will the ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN Minister of POWER be pleased to state: DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) to Mining of Known Deposits (c) the steps being taken/proposed to be taken to provide adequate staff to avoid delay in issue of 6660. SHRI P.C, THOMAS : Will the Minister of Passports and to prevent long queues before the office? MltJES be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) the places where deposits of Gold and Silver EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R. L. BHATIA) (a) and (b). As on 31-1-95 Passport Office Bangalere was issuing are known to exist but are not exploited; passports in 82 days which is an improvement over the (b) the reasons for not exploiting these deposits; 97 days It took in December 1993 and 123 days in (c) whether Government propose to implement any December 1994. The dealy in issue of passports, is scheme for their exploitation; and' however, not due to shortage of staff which, considering that the number of applications received during 1994 (d) if so, the details thereof? (January-December) for issue of fresh passports was THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF 82023, is adequate. MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA) : (a) to (d). The The number of applications received in 1992 and known occurrences of the gold other than the deposits 1993 was 104871 and 111035 respectively. being exploited are as below : (c) The re-Iocation of the Passport Office to more spacious premises, the institution of a system of regular State Areas inspections, better utilisation of the computer system, and efforts to motivate the staff are expected to reduce Andhra Pradesh Some areas of Ramgiri, the time taken for the issue of passports in Bangalore Kothapalli, Peddaparthikunta, to a more acceptable level. Ramapuram, Chinmulgund, Bhadrampali, Mallappakonda. Non-Aligned Movement Karnataka Hira-buddini, Ajjanhalli, Chinmulgund, Surapalle, 6662. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKATESWARLU Tuppadhur, Chinchergi, kadoni Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to Uti, Wandalli, Bellara, state: Kempinkote. (a) whether the Government have taken any steps Kerala Maruda and Puthemala. to increase the membership of NAM; Bihar Kunderkocha. (b) if so, the details thereof; Madhya Pradesh Baghmera, Sonakhan. (c) whether it is alleged that there has been slackness on the part of India in nurturing the NAM; and Tamil Nadu Maharaj-Gadai-Naralapalli. (d) the steps taken/proposed to be taken by the Rajasthan Pindwara Government to activate further the NAM? Silver is available as by-product from copper-Iead- THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI zinc and gold ores. However, occurrence of silver ore PRANAB MUKHERJEE): (a) and (b). NAM is a voluntary has been reported in Baghera block of Bharak area, association of member states. India welcomes the steady Bhilwara district in Rajasthan. increase in its membership. (c) No, Sir.. An entrepreneur takes a decision for exploiting a particular deposit if he finds the same to be commercially (d) NAM holds regular meetings at the level of viable based on the grade of the ore as well as size Ministers or Heads of Government or State. and senior 'and nature of the deposit. To encourage mining for all officials meet frequently to discuss Important known deposits, Government has already thrown all international issues. India takes an active part In these non-atomic and non-fuel minerals including gold and meetings. silver open for exploitation by the private sector, Outlay for Various Sch...... Staff Strength of Regional Passport Office, ~angalore 6663. SHRI HARISH NARAYAN PRABHU ZANTYE: Will the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND 6661, SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA URS : Wilt EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) the total outlay for various scheme under the (a) whether there is delay In Issue of passports due Ministry made for 1995-96; to shortage of staff in Regional Passport Office, (b) the financial and physical achievements made Bangalore; . under each scheme during 1994-95, State-wise 'In (b) If so, the details thereof; and general and in Goa in particular; 107 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 108 (c) whether substantial increase in prices of inputs 3. Night Shelters and Sanitation Schemes for the like cement, bricks, steel. land and other building footpath dwellers in the Urban Areas materials have escalated the cost of construction This scheme had been launched during 1988-89 significantly; and was reviewed and modified in August 1992. This (d) if so, the impact of the price hike on construction scheme has two components. activities/projects, particularly intended for rural and (a) Construction of community night shefter with urban poor; and community toilets and baths. (e) the steps proposed to be taken to contain the (b) Constructing only community pay and use prices of land and building materials for the benefit of toiletslbaths for the homeless. all, particularly the middle and lower income groups? Under this scheme no state wise funds are being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF allocated. Funds are placed at the desposal of HUDCO URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. from releasing to implementing agencies depending THUNGON) : (a) and (b). The total outlay for various upon progrebs of works. plan schemes of the Ministry of Urban Affairs and 4. National Network of Building Centre Employment for 1995-96 is Rs. 530 crores. A statement indicating the achievements of the important programmes This scheme is in operation since 1988-89. Under being monitored by this Ministry is attached. this scheme the central subsidy is not earmarked Statewise. The central assistance is routed through (c) to (e). Yes, Sir. The percentage increase in the HUDCO to Building Centers in a phased manner. price of major items required for construction is directly related to the building cost index and vice versa. 5. Integrated Development of Small and Medium Government is encouraging use of precasVprefabricated Towns (IDSMT) building components like door/window frames, lintels, The budget allocation for IDSMT Scheme during shelves, floor/roof units etc. and Similar components the year 1995-96 is Rs. 35 crores. During 1994-95, made of waste materials which reduce consumption of against the target of 72 additional towns, 104 additional wood which in turn reduce cost of construction and towns were covered under IDSMT. Besides, subsequent increase the speed of the construction work. instalments of Central Assistance were also released for ongoing projects in 21 towns. During 1994-95, the STATEMENT budget allocation of Rs. 22.90 crores available for providing the Central Assistance to State Governments The status of the various schemes for the Ministry of under IDSMT was 'fully utilised. During 1994-95, one Urban Affairs and Employment is as follows : town in Goa State. Le., Margao was covered and Central Assistance (first instalment) of As. 24.00 lakhs released. 1. Low Cost Sanitation : A Statement indicating the State-wise details of physical and financial achievements under IDSMT during Undor the Programme of Low Cost Sanitation and 1994-95 are appended (Appendix-III). Liberation of Scavengers, funds are allocated by the Central Government in the form of subsidy. During 1994- 6. Mega Cities 95 an amount of Rs. 25.80 crores was allocated under The Centrally Sponsored Scheme for infrastructural this scheme. development in the Mega cities was initiated only during The system of manual scavenging does not exist in 1993-94. It is applicable to cities with a population of Goa. However a Statement indicating the State-wise more than four million as per 1991 census. The scheme details is enclosed (Appendix-I). would be applicable to Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, Bangalore and Hyderabad. 2. Accelerated Urban Water Supply Programme During 1994-95, an amount of Rs. 74.50 crores (AUWSP) : was released as Central Assistance for implementing The scheme was launched towards the end of 1994 the scheme in the four cities. The scheme is not and an amount of Rs. 11.76 crores was distributed applicable to any city of Goa. during 1993-94 and Rs. 16.99 crores during 1994-95. During the current financial year. i.e. 1995-96, an amount 7. Nehru Rozgar Volana (NRV) : of Rs. 20 crores has been allocated. The performance of States/UTs as 'On 31.3.95 under Under AUWSP during the year 1994-95 an amount NAY .is given at Appendix - IV. of Rs. 10.14 lakhs was sanctioned for the towns of 8. Urban Basic Service for the Poor (UBSP) : Calangute and Aeishagos of Goa. A Statement indicating State-wise allocations is enclosed A Statement Indicating the funds released for the year 1994-95 is annexed (Appendix-V). (Appendix -II). ------109 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 110 APPENDIX-I 2 3 4 Position as on 31/03/95 5. Karnataka 58.64 0.00 Amount released under Low Cost Sanitation during 6. Kerala 8.62 13.32 " 1994-95. 7. Madhya Pradesh 67.50 135.51 Low Cost canitation (Integrated) Schemes Sanctioned B. Maharashtra 0.00 000 (Rs. in lacs) 9. Manipur 0.00 37.41 (Actual release as on 31/03/95) 10. Meghalaya 0.00 8.47 S.No. State Name Loan Amount Subsidy 11 . Orissa 44.82 44.80 1994-1995 12. Punjab 3134.42 1391.10 2 3 4 13. Rajasthan 10.50 23599 14. Tamil Nadu 149.87 61.05 1 . Andhra Pradesh 497.28 47.65 15. Tripura 0.00 5878 2. Assam 36.63 45.08 16. Uttar Pradesh 0.00 000 3. Bihar 0.00 126.73 17. West Bengal 0.00 14481 4. Haryana 160.66 364.59 Grand Total 4168.94 270529 111 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 112 8 8 0";m 0 8 m .... ~8~8N~~lillil °l o « ZZ « zz 8 z 888 « i5 o 0011) ZZ z :;r>N *w a. a. 4( « ZZ CD N_ ...... _ I N CD ... II)- (J)z'0 113 Written Answ,rs JYAISTHA 1,1995 Written Answers 114 ..... III N 8888888 8 Ill • ..,cD f)j ci ci ci ci ci ci ci 8i III ~ :!: g, 8i 0 (:: l!l 0 '" cD N .., III g III ~ ...... , ~ ~ ~ .., cD iii ~ ...'" N " :: Sli1 . ~ ~ N CD :!: ~ <;:J ~ < Z 8 iD ~ g N N < 8 0 '" Z ci cO "" N .., ~ ~ Sl ,,; ,...: ~ ..... :; '" ... ;z~ g Iti ~z ;Z '" ~~ ~ ~~ ~ i '" ~ III ;Z~ :: III: ,...:tri ~ ~ ~ 110 f <1 .a "" ~'" ;;; c II-'" <;:J'" '" ! I11 ~ 0 z• N I iliiH ~ .~ ~ II ~ 0 I! .! J z ~tQgt;igP.ii;;~ z• 115 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 116 APPENDIX-III 2 3 4 No. of towns Covered and Central Assistance 13. Maharashtra 17 4 433.75 Released Under IOSMT Scheme During 1994-95 14. Manipur (Rs. in lakhs) 15. Meghalaya 1994-95 16. Mizoram 1200 State/UT Towns Covered Funds 17. Nagaland 1 15.00 Addi. Ongo- Rele- 18. Orissa 9 2 181.00 ing ased 19. Punjab 1 36.25 2 3 4 20. Rajasthan 3 70.00 21. Sikkim 20.00 1. Andhra Pradesh 6 135.00 22. Tamilnadu 11 4 139.00 2. Arunachal Pradesh 2 26.00 23. Tripura 3. Assam 3 45.00 24. Uttar Pradesh 5 159.00 4. Bihar 2 45.00 25. West Bengal 8 2 93.20 5. Goa 24.00 UTs 6. Gurarat 7 2 150.00 1. A and N Islands 7. Haryana 2. D and N Haveli 8. Himachal Pradesh 3. Lakshdweep 9. Jammu and Kashmir 40.00 4. Pondicherry 10. Karnataka 11 290.00 5. Daman an Diu 11. Kerala 4 118.50 12. Madhya Pradesh 12 3 253.50 Total 104 21 2289.70 APPENDIX-IV Nehru Rozgar Yojana - Performance of States/UTs as Per Reports Submitted by Them as on 31.3.1995 (Rs. in Lakhs) S. Name of StatetUTs Scheme of Urban Micro Enterprises Scheme of Urban No Wage Employment Central Amount No. of Central Amount Trainees Central Expendr. No. of Subsidy of Sub- benefi- grant spent trained funds reported mandays released sidy ciaries for T&I under or under- released by gener- Sanc- assisted released T & I by going Statest rated. tioned States training UTs (figures Nos. in lakhs) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1. Andhra Pradesh 102.22 1194.83 74,933 241.25 68.67 7953 1322.72 1472.83 16.90 2 Bihar 504.35 289.07 7,738 141.85 11.96 2517 1689.62 1372.29 41.16 3. Gurarat 324.16 254.71 12,514 88.85 55.63 6462 918.40 875.07 11.80 4. Haryana 162.27 296.79 13,609 42.37 58.42 3623 313.00 427.96 6.94 5. Karnataka 775.75 662.14 44,230 167.57 47.65 9313 1622.46 1298.12 35.06 6. Kerata 387.23 616.20 21,445 85.47 55.28 4792 574.24 681.03 9.58 7. Madhya Pradesh 960.12 1541.14 84,004 223.90 114.29 10960 1745.79 2144.77 32.34 8. Maharashtra 1119.40 880.27 57.826 240.05 224,25 29928 2165.50 1663.44 30,18 9. Orissa 281.93 291.96 12.165 63.43 27.15 1894 705,90 645.91 9.57 10. Punjab 285.91 433.57 16,449 64.17 40.28 4156 620.91 693.35 4.72 11. Rajasthan 508.67 591.42 30,874 107.87 59.50 5470 1207.61 1616.43 17.04 12. Tamil Nadu 1263.65 1212.87 73.025 280.52 191.03 19377 1507.46 1930.95 35.63 ______13. Uttar Pradesh 2_4_1_7._2_8 ___35_8_8_.3_9 _____ 14_E.,13 ____5~3~6_.90~ __~3_48~.~32~ ___3~3_7_7_3 ___4_8~31_,_09 ___ 5_5~29~.5_7 _____ 9_4~.9~2~ 117 Written Answers JYAISTHA " 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 118 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 14. West Bengal 728.88 407.01 29,809 189.68 98.21 8502 1027.59 1278.53 18.67 Q5. Goa 16.58 8.36 440 3.46 1.8T 250 69.54 60.69 0.46 16. Arunachal Pradesh 17.72 2.91 40 8.70 1.84 240 16.92 28.48 0.20 17. Assam 143.62 227.90 17,568 53.20 5.96 3032 360.09 406.46 5.32 18. Him'lchal Pradesh 56.10 41.80 1.276 27.70 4.61 364 111.62 109.53 2.48 19. Jammu and Kashmir 91.02 64.48 1,786 44.69 20.84 821 123.81 190.14 2.08 20. Manipur 41.44 77.96 5,186 19.45 0.86 1050 82.62 89.33 2.31 21 Meghalaya 26.58 11.47 400 11.45 49.54 27.96 0.66 22. Mizoram 20.68 35.52 700 8.45 6.86 468 49.88 125.06 12.35 23. Nagaland 21.19 10.40 28.48 24. Sikkim 24.50 33.20 532 14.30 13.44 419 41.24 41.38 0.73 25 Tripura 24.52 40.85 434 9.97 5.32 471 68.41 84.12 1.65 2S. A and N Islands 8.55 6.95 178 3.13 1.80 65 13.93 15.81 0.18 27 Chandigarh 25.62 7.S9 199 3.42 0.49 14 19.21 55.74 0.36 28. D and N Haveli 7.55 3.78 110 2.47 0.70 123 7.22 5.61 0.12 29. Daman and Diu 13.20 5.60 21.12 8.07 0.16 3D Pondicherry 14.58 10.43 1499 5.46 1.10 193 45.85 36.92 0.96 31. Delhi. 115.60 58.25 1.412 26.40 12.51 1206 Total 11510.37 12891.92 655494 2730.13 1478.84 159436 21361.77 22915.55 394.53 APPENDEX·IV As on 31.3.1995 Nehru Rozgar 'KJjana - Performance of States/UTs As per Reports Submitted by them (Rs in lakhs) Name 01 StatelUTs Scheme of Housing and Shelter Upgradation Central Amount Amount No. 01 No. 01 T & I T & I No. of A & DEI Subsidy 01 Sub- of Sub- Dwelling mandays Funds funds persons ULBsl placed sidy rele- sidy Units' of work placed spent . trained NGOs with ased by utilised upgraded! generated with by or und- Expendit- HUDCO HUDeO by Statel in Prog- (in lakhs) HUDCO Statesl ergoing ure incur- UTs ress UTs training red (All compo- nents) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 Andhra Pradesh 721.09 390.18 730.62 62,760 29.00 184.38 94.43 3,810 46.56 2. Bihar 639.93 197.56 21.33 13,115 0.68 163.49 129.63 8,642 138.22 3. Gurarat 352.85 2.80 19.21 508 0.11 90.24 3.91 325 185.01 4. Haryana 98.81 56.53 29.61 3,560 32.84 8.80 695 79.58 5. Karnataka 615.54 88.06 70.69 8,277 10.62 157.31 71.01 1,209 118.23 6. Kerala 276.65 682.07 743.62 80,794 45.14 70.58 64.81 3,150 29.19 7. Madhya Pradesh 653.90 176.59 75.26 393.97 8. Maharashtra 652.01 191.99 6,200 166.15 65.31 3,000 24.00 9. Orissa 184.90 96.50 71.34 4,180 1.43 50.42 9.00 12 103.88 10. Punjab 189.86 60.16 85.87 6,242 2.82 50.80 15.20 73.21 1 1. Rajasthan 376.04 102.54 102.97 61.25 1,980 234.32 12. Tamilnadu 753.99 901.50 1106.20 1,15,289 55.74 192.53 134.55 9,708 235.43 13. Uttar Pradesh 1605,26 202.00 325.52 26.074 410.24 248.58 t,649 240.85 14. West Bengal 574.93 341.89 37,181 148.14 12.85 6,816 42.98 15. Goa 13.48 4.66 16.43 119 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 120 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 16. Arunachal Pradesh 16.70 9.30 8.24 17. Assam 102.29 80.67 6,948 0.05 36.38 19.08 1,272 18. Himachal Pradesh 34.20 3.91 20.63 19. Jammu & Kashmir 59.44 19.54 57.68 1,443 0.63 28.03 39.34 20. Manipur 22.59 5.33 5.35 385 0.19 11.62 1.50 100 59.26 21. Meghalaya 16.80 9.30 22. Mizoram 11.10 8.00 887 0.56 5.83 61.77 23. Nagaland 21.20 11.33 24. Sikkim 13.50 2.63 11.55 7.40 19.60 25. Tripura 12.11 1.30 1.30 260 0.02 6.02 37.37 26. A and N Islands 8.18 2.50 0.35 23 7.36 27. Chandigarh 20.64 4.99 2.05 28. D and N Haveli 5.34 0.22 2.45 4.49 29. Daman and Diu 8.45 4.15 30. Pondicherry 13.88 2.54 5.56 2.49 140 1.69 31. Delhi. 8.08 1.62 34.77 8083.74 3324.84 3392.97 3,74,103 146.99 2168.45 2143.06 44,531 2235.50 APPENDEX-V 2 3 4 5 6 Funds Released Under Urban Basic Services for the 23. Nagaland Poor (U.B.SP) for the year 1994-95. 24. Sikkim 15.50 1.00 16.50 (Rs. in Lakhs) 25. Tripura 15.50 1.00 16.50 S.No. Name of UBSP NGOs U~s Total 26. A & N Islands 8.33 0.82 9.15 State/uTs 'Zl. Chandigarh 8.325 0.825 9.15 2 3 4 5 6 28. D and N Haveli 16.65 1.65 18.30 29. Daman and Diu 1. Andhra Pradesh 166.70 6.00 6.90 179.60 30. Pondicherry 10.00 1.00 11.00 2. Bihar 74835 5.30 6.15 86.285 31. Delhi. 3. Gurarat 57.10 2.95 3.40 63.45 32. NGOs olrectly 4. Haryana 24.60 1.00 0.95 26.55 from Ministry 30.00 30.00 5. Karnataka 99.50 5.10 5.90 110.50 Total 1407.855 102.295 69.85 1580.00 6. Kerala 63.13 2.30 2.65 68.08 7. Madhya Pradesh 140.75 5.45 6.25 152.45 Salary etc. 20.00 8. Maharashtra 115.785 8.25 9.50 133.535 G. Total 1600.00 9. Orissa 46.30 1.50 1.75 49.55 10. Punjab 30.65 1.60 1.80 34.05 11. Rajasthan 89.30 3.10 3.60 96.00 National Seminar on HeaHh Care 12. Tamilnadu 150.90 7.75 8.95 167.60 13 Uttar Pradesh 129.90 6.675 7.70 144.275 6664. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : Will the 14. West Bengal 59.05 3.025 3.50 65.575 Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be 15. Goa 10.00 1.00 11.00 pleased to state: 16. Arunachal Pradesh (a) whether a National Seminar on Health Care 17. Assam 20.05 1.00 0.85 21.90 was held in the country, In April 1995; 18. Himachal Pradesh 10.00 1.00 11.00 (b) if so, the main issues discussed in the seminar; 19. Jammu & Kashmir (c) whether the Government have considered the 20. Manipur 15.50 1.00 16.50 suggestions made by the organisation of 21. Meghalaya 14.00 1.00 15.00 Pharmaceutical Producers of India at the seminar; and 22. Mizoram 15.50 1.00 16.50 (d) if so, the details thereof? 121 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 122 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (e) This will depend upon the time taken by the CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS, AND MINISTER OF State GovernmenVKerala Water Authority in furnishing STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS the additional information required for obtaining AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF clearances from various Department and in the form ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN required by OECF. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) to [Translation] (d). The Organisation of Pharmaceutical Producers of India (OPPI) and the International Federation of Inter-State Roadsl8ridges Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Associations (IFPMA) organised a National Seminar on Health Care in New 6666. SHRI N.J. RATHVA : Will the Minister of Delhi on 21 st and 22nd April, 1995. The Seminar SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : provided an opportunity to exchange views on the (a) whether any assistance has been provided to various aspects of health care and the contribution of the Government of Gujarat for inter-State roadslbridges the pharmaceutical industry in this regard. Such of economic importance during the last three years as interactions are an on-going process. on April, 1995; (b) if not, the reasons thereof; and Water Supply Projects in Kerala (c) the criteria laid down for the selection of such 6665. SHRIMATI SUSEELA GOPALAN : Will the projects for providing central assistance? Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINITRY OF pleased to state : SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. Due to limited allocation of funds for (a) whether the Government of Kerala has urged Central Sector Road Programme, it has been possible the Union government to approach the World Bank for to take up only some selected projects in various States financial assistance to their projects for improvement of under the programme during the VIII Plan. water supply in corporation cities, Thiruvananthapuram, Kochi and Kozhikode; (c) The broad criteria are as under : (b) if so, the details thereof; (i) Inter-State roads/bridges necessary for ensuring through communications; (c) the reaction of the Union Government to this (ii) Roads/bridges required for opening up new proposal; areas to which railway facilities cannot be (d) the other proposals of the Kerala Government provided in the near future; for water supply improvement in other cities of the State (iii) Roads/bridges which can contribute lying pending with the Union Government; and materially to rapid economic development, (e) the time by which proposals are likely to be e.g. in hilly areas and places having rich cleard? mineral resources for exploitation. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF [English] URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K, THUNGON) : (a) No, Sir. Pak Abetment to Terrorism (b) and (c). Do not arise. 6667. SHRI M.G. REDDY: Will the Mini:;;ter of (d) The following water supply schemes have been EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be ,pleased to state : received from the Government of KeralalKerala Water Authority for obtaining External assistance from the (a) whether the issue of Pak's involvement in and Overseas Economic Cooperation Fund (OECF) of Japan: abetment to terrorism in Kashmir had figured in the talks with the Secretary of State for Foreign and (i) Meenad, 12 adjoining villages and Parevoor Commonwealth Affairs of the UK during his recent visit Municipality Rs. 71 crores; to India; and (ii) Pattuvam and adjoining 14 villages - Rs. 42 (b) if so, the details and the outcome thereof? crores; THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI (iii) Cherthala and adjoining 19 villages-Rs.69.25 PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Yes, Sir. crores; (b) Our concerns regaring Pakistan's continued (Iv) Calicut City region - Rs. 285,20 crores; support to terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir were projected to Mr. Douglas Hurd, who conveyed that the (v) Thirt'vananthapuram city region - Rs. 199,20 UK will continue to emphasize to Pakistan the need to crores; refrain from encouragemnt to violence and terrorism in (vi) Koehl region - Rs. 234.50 crores. Jammu and Kashmir. 123 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 124 National Highways (b) the details of survey and experiments conducted by them in Antarctica; 6668. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA GAVIT : Will the (c) the results thereof and the benefits that would Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: accrue to the country from these surveys; and (a) the procedure followed in approving and (d) the expflilditure incurred on sending these teams sanctioning the length of the National Highways; for the expedition? (b) whether the expenditure is borne by the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF concerned States also; and MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAVA) : (a) The details of Geological Survey of Indan (GSI) Scientists Team (c) if so, the details in this regard? participated in Antarctica Expeditions are given below: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) Year Expedition No. of GSI Scientists Proposals received from various State Governments are 1992-93 XII 3 examined in the . light of availability of resources, criteria laid down for declaring new National Highways, 1993-94 XIII 2 recommendations of the National Transport Policy 1994-95 XIV 3 Committee, inter-se priority of a road on an all-India basIs including proximity of other National Highways in (b) The details of survey and experiments conducted the area etc. These are appraised by Planning in Antarctica are as under : Commission, Ministry of Finance, etc., and finally Geology Glaciology approved. (b) and (cl. No expenditure is incurred by the State (i) Geological Mapping (i) Continental-ice Government after a road is declared as a National balance Highway. (ii) Geological Evolution (ii) Glacier dynamics (iii) Rectonics (iii) Snow-ice Stratigraphy Strengthening of National Highways (iv) Magmatism (iv) Palaeoclimate 6669. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO : Will the Minister of (v) Inter-continental (v) Global change SUFIFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : correlation (a) whether the Union Government have cleared (vi) Geomorphological any project during March, 1995 for strengthening some studies selected sections of National Highways: (vii) Geochronology (b) if so, whether any sections of National Highways (viii) Palaeomagnetism in Andhra Pradesh have been selected for that purpose; and (c) A total area of 9000 sq. km. have been mapped 2000 (c) if so, the details thereof? and rock samples collected are highly valued for their remoteness. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF The geological studies viz. mapping, sampling and SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) laboratory inputs are expected to lead to better under- Yes, Sir. standing of the geology of India in regard to crustal (b) and (c). Four strengthening works on NH 5 and evolution, terrain development and evolution of life about NH 7 costing Rs. 12.06 crores have been sanctioned 200 million years before. during March 1995 in Andhra Pradesh. The Antarctica ice contains a record of global [Translation] climatic change of past in its ice layers. Sfudies throw light on global weather regime and offer input to the Antarctica Expeditions environmental change. Changes in the fluctuations of the mass balance of 6670. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VARMA: Will the Antarctica ice offers vital parameters for predicting the Minister of MINES be pleased to state : future global change on the entire earth system. (a) the details of Geological Survey of India (GSI) (d) The Department of Ocean Development sends teams that have participated in the various Antarctica the teams to Antarctica and bears all the expenses. expeditions, during the last three years; There is no separate allocation for sending GSI team to 125 Written. Answers JYAISTHA .1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 126 Antarctica. The total expenditure incurred by Department Government has constantly maintained and conveyed of Ocean Development is Rs. 41.35 crores during last to friendly countries, including the US, that there is three years as under : incontrovertible evidence of Pakistan's active involvement in promoting terrorism in India; 12th. Expedition (1992-93) Rs. 14.90 crores (c) Yes, Sir. 13th Expedition (1993-94) Rs. 13.70 crores 14th Expedition (1994-95) Rs. 12.75 crores (d)' The Indian Embassy in Washington, with the assistance of the lobbying firm, have provided extensive Total Rs. 41 .35 crores and incontrovertible evidence to opinio['l makers in the US regarding the involvement of Pakistan in aiding and [English] abetting terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir and other parts of India. Visits to Jammu and Kashmir have been Regional Passport Office, Hyderabad facilitated to enable members of Congress, the US media and other opinion makers to see the situation for 6671. SHRI M.G. REDDY : Will the Minister of themselves. EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) the total number of passport applications National Land Use Policy . received and the number of passport issued by Regional Passport Office, Hyderabad during the last one year; 6673. SHRIMATI OIL KUMARI BHANDARI : Will and the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (b) the steps being taken/proposed to be taken by be pleased to state the Government to expedite the issue of passport by (a) whether the Government propose to undertake this office? some study in Sikkim to know the availability of cultivable THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF land under National land use policy. EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) The (b) if so, the details thereof; and number of Passport applications received by the (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Passport Office, Hyderabad during 1994-95 (from 1.4.94 to 313.95) was 124743 and the number of fresh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF passports issued during the same period was 132442. URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI PK (b) The Government has taken a number of steps THUNGON) : (a) to (c). Based on the information' for expeditious issue of passports such as upgradation furnished by the Ministry of Agriculture, no study IS of office facilities, review of systems and procedures, proposed to be undertaken in Sikkim under National regular inspections and computerisation of passport Land Use Policy with reference to availai:Sility of office. The Passport Offce, Hyderabad has also been cultivable land. However, as per land use statistics computerised with effect from 25th April, 1995. collected and compiled III respect of Sikkim by the Dte. of Economics and Statistics under the Minist~y 0' Agriculture, the cultivable area IS 114 thousand hectares US-Pak Alliance as per statistics of 1991-92. 6672. SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR PATEL: Will the Minister ot EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Transportation of hazardous Chemicals (a) whether his attention has been invited to the 6674. SHRI S.M. LALJAN BASHA : wiil the Minister news item captioned "US looking at Pak as ally to fight of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : terrorism" appearing in the 'Financial Express' dated March 24, 1995; (a) whether special rules have been framed! (b). if so, the reaction ot the Government thereto; proposed to be framed with regard to the transportation of hazardous chemicals and materials on all major (c) whether any steps taken by the Indian Embassy national highways; and in Washington or its lobbying firm in U.S. to place the correct roles of Pakistan in aiding and abetting terrorism (b) if so, the details thereof? in Jammu and Kashmir; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (d) if so, the details is thereto? SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) and (b). The transportation of chemical substances or THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI hazardous material is governed by Rules 129 to 137 of PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Yes, Sir. the Central Motor Vehicle Rules, 1989, which were (b) Government is aware of the statements made brought into force from 1st July, 1989 and slightly by members of the US Administration commending amended with effect from 26.3.93. These Rules are Pakistan's role as a leader In combatting the menace applicable to all vehicles carrying hazardous goods, of Islamic extremism and terrorism. However, the irrespective of their area of operation. 127 Written Answers MAY 22. 1995 Written Answers 128 HUDeo Loan to Housing Agencies in Maharashtra THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN 6675. SHRI DATTA MEGHE : Will the Minister of GOGO I): (a) The number of prawn processing industries URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to under public sector and private sector is 4 and 357 state: respectively. (a) whether the amount of loans being advanced (b) The foreign eXChange earned by the export of by HUDCO to various housing agencies in Maharashtra has been declining every yeer; prawn during the last 3 years is given below :- (b) if so, the reasons therefor, and the total amount Year Export (0 : Ouantity in sanctioned and .released to various housing agencies M. Tonnes) by HUDCO In Maharashtra during the last two years; (V : in Rs. Crores) (c) whether HUDCO propose to increase the amount of loan to various agencies in Maharashtra; and 1992-93 0: 74051 (d) if so, the details thereof? V: 1176.83 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1993-94 0: 86541 URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. V: 1770.73 THUNGON) : (a) and (b). There has been no decline in 1994-95 0: 101776 loan allocation and sanctions during the last two years V: 2414.40 of the housing projects in Maharashtra as seen from the following table : (c) and (d). The subsidy schemes for extending (Rs. in Crores) financial assistance to new seafood processing units Year Amount Amount Amount are given below : of Loan of Loan Released 1. Subsidy for automatic flake/ship/tube ice allocation sanctioned making machines. 1993-94 78 96 51.17 50.35 2. Subsidy for refrigerated truck/container, trailor with prime mover and generating set. 1994-95 89.88 73.90 41.03 3. Subsidy for generator set. There has been some decline in loan releases 4. Subsidy for distribution of Inssulated fish during 1994-95 as compared to the figul'es for 1993-94. The question of release of funds for sanctioned projects boxes. is closely linked with demands for funds from housing 5. Assistance to create infrastructural facilities agencies based on actual progress of works. for processing, preservation and marketing (c) and (d). HUDCO has since brought a change in of fish. the procedure of making minimum loan allocation. As per the changed the procedure only 50% of the Shortage of Drinking Water in Gujarat available funds are allocated in the beginning of the financial years and the remaining 50% will be allocated on receipt of specific demands from the States. On this 6677. SHRIMATI BHAVNA CHIKHLIA : Will the basis, the initial allocation for Maharashtra works out to Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be Rs. 49.32 crores during 1995-96. • pleased to state : [English] (a) whether the citizens of the Junagarh, Bhavnagar and Rajkot are facing severe shortage of drinking water; Prawn proces.ing Industries (b) whether there is a proposal to bring Narmada river water to these cities for augmenting the supply of 6676. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA : Will the drinking water; Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state : (c) if so, the details thereof; (a) the number of prawn processing industries under (d) whether the Government have cleared the public sector and private sector;' proposal; and (b) the foreign exchange earned by the export of (e) if not, the reasons tj1erefor? prawn during the last three years, year-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN -l"RE MINISTRY OF (c) whether the Government propose to provide . URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHAr P.K. more incentives to the prawn processing sector so as THUNGON) : (a) Government of Gujarat has not reported to facilitate the setting up of new units; and about severe shortage of drinking water In Junagarh, (d) if so, the details thereof? Bhavnagar and RaJkot towns. 129 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 130 (b) and (c). Narmada river would provide drinking (b) and (c). Project identified by NMDC to be set up water to 135 urban centres. The District-wise details of and their States/Places are as under :' these urban centres are as given below : 1. Bailadila Iron Ore Deposit 11-B in Bastar district, Madhya Pradesh State. S.N'o, Area No. of Urban Centres 2. Bailadila Iron are Deposit 10 and 11A in 1. Saurashtra region 90 Bastar district, Madhya Pradesh State. 2. Kachchh 10 3, Arki limestone project in Solan District, 3. Banaskantha 3 Himachal Pradesh State. 4. Mehsana 13 {Translation] 5. Sabarkantha 4 6. Ahmedabad 12 National Waterways 7. Panchmahal 3 6679. DR. P.R. GANGWAR : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state : Total 135 (a) whether there is any proposal to develop/declare (d) and (e). No proposals have been recieved from new National Waterways; the State Government in this regard. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) it not, the reasons therefor? Units Set up by NMDC THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) 6678. DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR : Will the and (b). Yes, Sir. The following 3 waterways are proposed Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : for declaration as National Waterways during the 8th (a) the total number of units set up by National Five Year Plan for their development for inland water Mineral Development Corporation in the country as on transport : March 31, 1995, State-wise; (1) The Sunderbans - the international steamer route between Sagar and Bangladesh Border (b) whether there are any pending proposals for (191 kms.) setting up new units of NMDC; and (2) The river Godavari - from Cherla to (c) if so, the States/places chosen for setting up Rajahmundhry (208 kms.) alongwith delta new units? canals. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (3) The Goa Waterways viz. river Mandovi (41 STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) The number kms.), river Zuari (64 kms,) and Cumberzua of units set up by the National Mineral Development Canal system (17 kms,), Corporation limited (NMDC) State-wise in the country (c) Does not arise, are as under {English} State Name of the Unit Urban Poverty Alleviation Programme Madhya Pradesh 1 . Bailadila Iron Ore Project Deposit-14, Bastar district 6680. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO : WID the 2. Bailadila Iron are Project Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be Deposit-11 C, Bastar district pleased to state : 3, Bailadila Iron are Project (a) whether the Union Government have proposed Deposit-5, Bastar district a substantial increase in the funds earmarked for the urban proverty alleviation prog'rammes; 4. Panna Diamond Mine, Panna district. (b) if so, whether a new scheme for the urban poor of Class-II Towns in the country is proposed to be Karnataka 5. Donimalai Iron are Project, launched; Bellary district. (c) if so, the salient features of the scheme; 6. Kumaraswamy Iron Ore (d) the total urban people likely to be covered under Project, Bellary district. the scheme; and Chawandla limestone Rajasthan 7. (e) the proposed allocation of funds under thiS mine, Nagaur district. scheme to each State? 131 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 132 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Visit of US Under Secretary of State URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. THUNGON) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. This has been dcme 6682. SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : to implement a new scheme for the urban poor of Class SHRI SUDHIR SAWANT : II towns in the country. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased (c) The salient features of the scheme are to state (i) Effective' achievement of social sector goals, (a) whether a delegation led by US Under (ii) community empowerment, (iii) convergence through Secretary of State for Poiitical Affairs have visited sustainable support system, (iv) improvement of hygiene India recently; and sanitation and (v) environmental improvement. (b) if so, the details thereof; (d) About 10 million urban poor are proposed to be (c) the subjects discussed by the delegation with covered under the new Scheme by the end of the year Indian counterparts and the outcome thereof; 2000. (d) whether any agreements have been reached (e) A provision of Rs. 100 crores has been between the two countries during the visit; and earmarked for the scheme for the current financial year (e) if so, the salient features thereof, agreement- as Central share for allocation to State Governments/ wise? U.Ts. THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, US Under Supply of F·16 Aircrafts to Pakistan Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Mr. Peter Tarnoff led a delegation of senior officials from the State 6681. SHRI CHETAN P.S. CHAUHAN Department to India for foreign policy consultations from SHRI MOHAN RAWALE : April 3-4, 1995. The Indian side was led by Foreign SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: Secretary. The talks were part of an on-going process of expanding and deepening relations between India SHRI SRIKANTA JENA : and the US, initiated by Prime Minister and President Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased Clinton when they decided in May 1994 to forge a new to state: partnership between the two countries. (a) whether the Government are aware of the recent (c) Discussions covered regional integration, reports regarding US proposal to supply F-16 Fighter including the European security architecture. APEC, aircrafts to Pakistan; ASEAN, SAARC and the Indian Ocean Rim, multilateral issues such as UN reform and Security Council (b) If so, the reaction of the Government thereto; expansion, peacekeeping, UNGA issues and the NPT and Review Conference, and regional issues such as the (c) the steps being taken by the Government in this Middle East Peace Process, the Gulf, Central Asia, regard? Afghanisatan, East Asia, South East Asia and South Asia. It was agreed that such policy consultations would THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI be a regular part of Indo-US interactions in the future. PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Government are aware of reports that the US Administration intends to seek (d) No ageeements were signed' between the two flexibility from the US Congress on the Pressler countries during the visit. Amendment. The US Administration is expected to (e) Does not arise. present proposals to Congress in this regard, which could include the transfer of F-16 aircraft and other [Translalion] military equipment to Pakistan or return of the money already paid by Pakistan. Vacant DDA Flats (b) and (c). Government have conveyed to the US 6683. SHRI N.J. RATHVA : Will the Minister of Government that, although the Pressler Amendment was URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to a bilateral issue between the US and Pakistan, the state: transfer of sophisticated and high performance weapons (a) the number of DDA flats lying vacant due to lack systems to Pakistan, including F-16 aircraft which are of basic amenities; capable of delivering nuclear weapons, would adversely affect india's security. Government remain committed to (b) the types and locations of these flats and since take all steps necessary to ensure defence preparedness when the same are lying vacant; based on its assessment of the threats posed to India's (c) the extent of financial losses suffered by DDA national security. so far as a result thereof; and 133 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1. 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 134 (d) the time by which the Government propose to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF provide the basic amenities in those flats? POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL) (a) Adequate water is being supplied' to Ramagundam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Super Thermal Power Station (RSTPS) In Andhra URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. Pradesh. THUNGON) : (a) to (d). Information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. (b) Does not arise. (c) Water is supplied to the Power project from [English] Pochampad Canal of Sriramsagar Project on a' permanent basis. Rice Milling Regulation Act (d) Provision has been made for supply of water to ryots. 6684. SHRI PARAS RAM BHARDWAJ SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO : (e) Government of Andhra Pradesh is ensuring adequate water supply to RSTPS on a permanent basis. Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state : [Translation] (a) whether the Government have any proposal to Life Span of Merchant Ship. repeal the Rice Millers Marketing Regulation Act, 1958; (b) if so, the details thereof and the facilities to be 6686. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: extended as a consequence thereof, alongwith the SHRIMATI DIPIKA H. T-OPIWALA : training centres to be opened State-wise; Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be (c) whether the Government have also decided to pleased to state : rescind the jaggery control order; and (a) whether the Government have rejected the (d) if so, the effect thereof on the distillation of request made by ship owners for giving relaxation in illicitliquor particularly in Andhra Pradesh there liquor time for procurement of ships; is p~~ibited? (b) if so, the reasons therefor; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (c) whether the Government propose to reconsider FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN the request made by ship owners; GOGOI) : (a) Yes, Sir. (d) if so, the time by which decision is likely to be (b) If and when the Rice Milling Industry (Regulation) taken in this regard; and Act, 1958 is repealed, anybody in the country would be (e) the average life span of the Indian merchant free to carry out rice milling operations. ships compared to that of foreign countries? (c) Yes, Sir. The Gur Control Order has been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF rescinded w.e.f. 21.3.1995. SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER ) : (a) (d) No such study has been undertaken. to (d). No, Sir. The Government has granted relaxation in age norms for acquisition of various types of second hand vessels by way of import In order to give further Water Supply to Ramagundam boost of shipping Industry In the light of economic Thermal Power Project reforms and liberallsation process. . 6665. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO : Will the Minister of (9) The everage age profile of Indian ships is 12.7 POWER be pleased to state : years as ~ompared to the world average age of 17 years. (a) whether adequate water supply is not auilable to Ramagundam Super Thermal Power Station In Andhra {English1 . Pradesh; Hindu.tan Copper Limned (b) if so, the reasons therefor; (c) whether water is being supplied from &667. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VARMA : WiD the Sriramsagar Project In Andhra Pradesh to the above ·Mlnister of MINES be pleased to state: Project temporarily; (a) whether Hindustan Copper Limited (Hel) (d) if so, whether ryots are affected on account of suffered heavy losse$ during 1993-94; diversion of water supply; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; aAd (e) the steps Gove..,ment propose to take to ensure (c) the steps proposed to be taken by lb. Union adequate water supply to Ramagundam Super Thermal Govemment to convert HOL Into a coft'lmen:1dy viable Power Station? unit? . 135 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 136 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (c) whether the Government have approached L1C MINES (SHRI BAlRAM SINGH YADAVA) : (a) to (c). Yes, and other funding 'ilgencies to provide funds for the Sir. Hindustan Copper Limited (HCl) suffered a net development of Guntur as a model town; and loss of Rs. 69.55 crores during 1993-94 mainly due to (d) if so, the details and outcome thereof? sharp decline in the international price of copper and sluggish market conditions, in addition to the inherent THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF problems of poor grade of ore, limited known reserves URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHAI P.K. in the country, low scale of operations, etc. To improve THUNGON) : (a) No, Sir. the viability of its operations the, Company has (b) Question does not arise. Implemented a number of cost cutting measures and (c) L1C and other funding agencies have not been has also drawn up a scheme for expansion of its smelter approached by the Central Government to provide funds 31,000 capacity at Khetri from the existing tpa to for the development of Guntur as a model town. 1,00,000 tpa using imported copper concentrate. (d) Question does not arise. Baltic Freight Index Export of Steel Raits by Bhitai Steel Plant 6688. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAl : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 6690. SHAI PHOOl CHAND VERMA : Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state : (a) the manner in which Baltic freight index Is computed; and (a) the details of countries to which steel rails are exported by Bhilai Steel Plant; " (b) its impact on the performance of the Indian shipping companies? (b) the number of rails exported during 1993-94 and 1994-95 and the foreign exchange earned THE MINISTER OF STATE Of THE MINISTRY OF therefrom; and SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRt JAGDISH TYTlER) : (a) The Baltic Freight Index is at present being, 'computed (c) the projected export figures of rails during 1995- 96 daily on the following basis by Bhilai Steel Plant? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Route Commodity Weighting STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Presently Bhilai Steel Plant is not exporting steel rails. t. US Gulf-N Cont Grain 10% (b) There has been no export of steel rails by Bhilai 2. Transatlantic ~ound TIC 10% Steel Plant during 1993-94 and 1994-95. 3. US Gulf-Japan Grain 10% (c) There is no plan for export of steel rails by Bhilai 4. US Gulf..fE TC Grain 10% Steel Plant during 1995-96. 5. US N Pacitic-Japan Grain 10% 6. TranspacifiC Round TIC 10% REC Loans to States 7. H. Roads-R Bay-Japan Coal 7.5% 8. H. Roads-Rotterdam 'Coal 7.5% 6691. SHRIMATI BHAVNA CHIKHLlA : Will the 9. QlJgensland-Acmerdam Coal 7.5% Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 10. F East to NOPAC-Cont. TIC 10% (a) whether REC has provided soft loans to States 11. 1'(mara-Rotterdam Iron Ore 7.5% with maturity ranging from 15 to 30 years; (b) if so, whether most of these loans have matured {b) The' current uptrend in the Baltic Freight Index for repayment; and is 8Kp~~d benefit Indian shipping companies in the to (c) if so, the amount to be paid by each State and dJy ,bulk sector which account for about 42% of the the amount received by REC so far? . .lndiap fleet. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWEA (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL) A."'nce to' Guntur Municipality in A.P. ;, (a) Yes, Sir. 6889. SHRI S.M. LAWAN BASHA : Will the Minister (b) As per the terms of the agreements of .the various loans, after the expiry of the moratorium periOds, of VRBAN AFFAIRS .AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to repayment of ~he principal amount fall. due every ,year state: in instalments. (8) whether any funds are proposed to be granted (c) The amount to be paid by each State and the' to Guntur Municipality in Andhra Pradesh In 1995-96 amount received 80 far, against the total loan advanced for flflBrtaldng sanitation and water supply schemes; by the Rural Electrification Corporation as on 31.3.1995 (b) if SO, the' details thereof; (Provisional) is given in the Statement attached.' 137 Written AnsweJlS JYAISTHA I, 1917 (Sakal WrittlHl Answers 138 STATEMENT THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINI!"T' . STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV~ . 17,\ to (c). Sponge Statement indicating the principal amount to be re- Iron is a partial substitute:1 ."". melting scrap, paiq by the borrowers; payments received by REG Accordingly, Government h~' "c>I1!1iied sponge iron as a and outstanding upto 31st March, 1995 (Provisiona/). thrust area. In or-;Pr·, ,Jlomote production of sponge iron, Sponge Ir~~ ... llia Limited (S:.L) was set up in 1 !:'e: (Rs. in lakhs) at Khammam, Andhra Pradt!sh as a demonstration plant, with UNDP/UNIDO assistance to establish the techno- S.No. States Repay~ Repay- Amount economic fea",ioility of producing sponge iron from lump ment ment due but iron ore and 100"10 non coking coal. Furthermore, RDCIS to be recei- not rece- Ranchi under SAIL had also commissioned a pilot plant made by ved ived as with similar objectives in March 1982 which was in regular Borro- upto on operation till April 1993. wers 31.3.95 31.3.95 (3-4) SilL went into regular operation in November, 1980 with a capacity of 30,000 tonnes/year. The capacity of 1. Andhra Pradesh 18,547 18,450 97 this unit was expanded to 60,000 tonnes/year in October. 1985. The production of sponge iron at this plant during 2. Arunachal Pradesh 120 120 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994-95 (prov.) was 49,110. 3. Assam 5,243 2,644 2,599 48,550 and 50,375 tonnes respectively. During 1994- 4. Bihar 18,883 8.495 10,388 95, SilL incurred a net loss of Rs. 3.25 crores 5. Gurarat 9,375 9,375 (provisional). 6. Haryana 7,392 7392 Directions to States for F.P.I. 7. Himachal Pradesh 3,234 3,234 8. Jammu· and Kashmir 2,792 2,688 104 6693. SHRI M.G. REDDY : Will the Minister of 9. Karnataka 11,186 11,186 FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: 10. Kerala 4,412 4,412 (a) whether the Government have given directions 11. Madhya Pradesh 32,329 24,313 8,016 to State Governments to declare the Food Processing 12. Maharashtra 23,674 23,674 Industries as priority sector; and .. 13. Manipur 391 391 (b) if so, the names of States that have declared 14. Meghalaya 1,752 1,293 459 this industry as priority sector? 15. Mizoram 32 32 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN 16. Nagaland 778 778 GOGOI) : (a) and (b). During the meeting with the State 17. Orissa 12,085 8,217 3.868 representatives and Nodal Agencies, the States were 18. Punjab 12,367 12,367 advised to accord priority to the development of agro- 19. Rajasthan 14,397 14.397 food industries in their States. As per available information. almost all States have declared food 20. Sikkim 238 238 processing industries as a thrust area. 21, Tamilnadu 12,334 12,334 878 878 22. Tripura National Fertilizers Limited 23. Uttar Pradesh 27,629 11,353 16.276 24. West Bengal 12,767 7,200 5.5f7 6694. SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Total 232,835 185,461 47.374 to state: (a) the details of expansion programme being Production of Sponge Iron undertaken by the National Fertilizers Limited recently: and 6692. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKATESWARLU (b) the financial implications thereof and the total Will the Minister of STeEL be pleased to state production envisaged after the expansion programme? (a) whether th._ Government have explored the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF potential of sponge Iron production In thCl country. CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS, AND MINISTER OF (b) whether pilot projects producing Sponge lion STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS were set up; and . AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPAR1M,ENT OF ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN (c) If so, the details thereof and the status of sponge DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) and Iron India limited in Andftra Pradesh? . (b). MIs. National Fertilizers Limited (NFL) are presently 139 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers. 140 expanding the capacity of their Vijaipur (M.P.) plant Power Crisis in Eastern States to produce an additional 7.26 lakh MT of urea per year at an estimated capital cost of Rs. 987.30 crores. 6696. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : Will the This project is expected ot be commissioned by Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 01.01.1997 .. (q,j whether the attention of the Government has The Board of Directors of National Fertilizers Ltd. been drawn to the news item captioned "Eastern States (NFL) also have, in principle, approved proposals to in throes of power crisis" appearing in 'The Economic expand the capacity of their Panipat and Nangal plants Times' dated April 28, 1995; at an estimated cost of about Rs. 1000 crores and Rs. 40 crores, respectively. On implementation, these (b) if so, the facts of the matter reported therein; projects would result in additional production of about and 9 lakh tonnes of urea per annum. (c) the steps proposed to be taken by the Government to eradicate the causes for power crisis? Ramagundam Power Project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): 6695. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKATESWARLU (a) and (b). Out 01 18 units of 200/210 MW in the Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state : Eastern Region, during the month of April-1995, 8 units of 200/210 MW were out for different durations due to (a) whether Government have any proposals to expand Ramagundam power project; various reasons. The details are given below : (b) if so, the details thereof; WBSEB (c) the details of financial assistance given so far Bandal Unit - 5 (210 MW) Out for 283 hours to that project and the likely date of completion of the during April, 95 due to project; and operational problems (d) the total capacity utilisation of Ramagundam BIHAR NTPC plant? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Tenughat Vidyut Nigam POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): Unit-1 (210 MW) New Unit. Un-stablised. (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. National Thermal Power Corporation West 8engal Power Development Corporation (WBPDC) (NTPC) has submittETd a Feasibility Report for expansion of its existing Ramagundam Super Thermal Power Kolaghat Unit-2 (210 MW) Out for 432 hours during Project (2100 MW) by addition of 1 unit of 500 MW April, 1995 due to coal under stage III. The Feasibility Report is under process feeding system failure. in the Central Electricity Authority for techno-economic D.V.C. clearance. The estimated cost of the expansion project is about Rs. 1435.45 crores at 1 st quarter, 1995 price Sokero Unit-6 (210 MW) during April, 1995 level. The project is proposed to be financed through Out for 8 days/due to external commercial borrowings, domestic borrowings operational problems. and internal resources of NTPC. The !i00 MW unit under Sakaro Unit-7 (210 MW) Out for 27 days due to this project is scheduled for commissioning in 62 months generator rotor damage. from the date of investment approval. Durgapur Unit-4 Out for 27 days due to (d) Capacity utilisation, i.e. Plant Loan Factor (PLF), (210 MW) generator rotor damage. in case of Ramagundam Super Thermal Power Project (2100 MW), during the last four years has been as NTPC follows Kehalgaon Unit-2 Out w.e.f. 27.4.1995 S.No. Year PLF (%) (210 MW) : due to operational problems. 1. 199H~2 61.12 Kehalgaon Unit-3 New Unit; un-stablised. 2. 1992-93 67.32 (210 MW) 3. 1993-94 79.33 . 4. 1994-95 78.80 - The power station at Kolaghat had restricted generation for short durations due to less coal supply The PLF during. April, 199.5 was 87.84% during the month of April, 1995. 141 WAitten Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 142 During the month of April'95 the power supply ADB aid to Power Projects position in the Eastern Region was as per details given below 6699. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE : Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: Power Supply Position April-1995 ~nergy (MU NET) Peak (MW NET) (a) whether Asian Development Bank (ASS) has been giving loans to India for setting up of power projects; Requirement 3560 Peak Demand 6990 (b) if so, the details of power projects recommended Availability 3069 Peak met 5500 for ADS loan during the last three years; Shortage 491 Deficit 1490 (c) the details of power projects out of them that %age shortage 13,8 % 21,3 have received ADS loan, during the period; and (c) In order to bridge the gap between demand and (d) the amount .of ADB loan received during those availability of power various measures being taken to years State-wise? improve the availability of power in the country include- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF expediting commissioning of new generating capacity, POWER (SHRIMATI URMILASEN CHIMANSHAI PATEL): implementation of short gestation projects, improving (a) Yes, Sir. the performance of existing power stations, adopting various demand management and energy conservation (b) The information is being collected and will be measures, arranging transfer of energy from surplus to laid on the Table of the House. deficit areas and promotion of private sector investment (c) and (d). 'Power Efficiency Project' of Power in power sector. Finance Corporation was signed on 23.4.1992 for loan assistance of US$ 250 Million with ADS. In addition to Transport Bottlenecks this, the following power projects in the State Sector are receiving assistance from ADS 6697, SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: S. Name of the State Sanctioned Disburse- No. Project Laon ment till (a) whether transport bottlenecks are being faced amount 31.3.1995 in the country in general and Southern States in (Million US$) particular; (b) if so, the details thereof; and 1. North Madras Tamil 150 109.5 (c) the steps taken to tide over them? Thermal Project Nadu THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF 2. Rayalaseema Andhra 190 43.8 SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) :(a) Thermal Project Pradesh to (c). Instances of overcrowding in the buses, 3. Second North Tamil 200 101.3 congestion on roads and unsatisfactory conditions of Madras Thermal Nadu roads cannot be ruled out which are the main factors Project of transport bottlenecks in general in this country as a whole. No details in this regard are available. However, the Government has initiated necessary action to Assistance to A.P. Power Projects remove such obstacles by way of private participation wherever possible in the field of transport and road 6700. SHRI DHARMABHIKSHAM : Will the Minister construction. of POWER be pleased to state : (a) whether Government of Andhra Pradesh has Gourlpore Thermal Power Project sought any financial assistance from the Union 6698. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : Will the Government for power projects; Minister of POWER be pleased to state : (b) whether any financial assistance has been (a) whether Gouripore thermal power project near ex1ended so far; and Calcutta is facing scrapping; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) If so', the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRIMATI URMILASEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): POWER (SHRIMATI URMILABEN CHIMANBHAI PATEL): STATEMENT Yearwise Registration of Vehicles in Union Territory of Delhi S.No. Year CarNanl Scooterl Auto Taxis Buses Goods Total Zeep Motor Cycle Rickshaw vehicles St. Wagon 1. 1982 10429 65913 2476 1161 2133 4651 86763 2. 1983 .8215 58384 3643 514 1338 3870 75964 3. 1984 10722 72075 2333 226 1359 3593 90308 4. 1985 21869 76885 1982 170 457 8739 110102 . 5. 1986 28015 109352 9359 118 802 2935 150581 6. 1987 38946 121289 4833 147 746 9308 175269 7. 1988 37857 110790 6154 175 956 9244 165176 8. 1989 53053 104104 6061 328 1162 9156 173864 9. 1990 50849 108384 4246 604 1170 9510 174763 10. 1991 44133 102880 3822 400 1020 6974 159229 11. 1992 41066 87516 4145 786 29G9 4413 140895 12. 1993 41433 85600 1594 467 1303 3829 134226 13. 1994 47301 113635 2840 546 1610 8150 174082 145 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Written Answers 146 [English] 5. Shri Inder Jeet, M.P. 6. Dr. Farooq Abdula India-China Border Issue 7. Shri Brijesh Mishra 8. Shri Natwar Singh "6703. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Will the 9. Prof. Khusro Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 10. Shri Sat ish Chandra, Standing Representative, Indian (a) whether exiled tibetan leaders have recently Mission, Geneva. warned India that it would stand to lose if it compromised 11. Smt. Savitri Kunadi, Joint Secretary (UNE) Ministry of on the issue of McMahon Line; External Affairs (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; and 12. Shri Dinkar Shrivastava, Director (UNP) Ministry of (c) the steps proposed to be taken by the Government External Aff"irs. to resolve the issue by talks? 13. Smt. Sujata Menta, Director Prime Minister's Office THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Dr. Manmohan Singh, Finance Minister addressed PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) Government have seen the U.N. Commission of Human Rights as a Speaker. media reports quoting some Tibetan refugees in India as During the session, the Indian delegation apprised the saying that India stands to lose if it compromised on the international community, of the true facts of the case in McMahon Line. Jammu and Kashmir, particularly the sponsorship and (b) It is Government's view that the McMahon L1ne.of abetment of terrorism from across the border. The delegation 1914 formalised the natural, traditional and administrative also highlighted India's policy of promotion and protection boundary in the Eastern Sector of the India-China border of human rights, which is in sharp contrast with Pakistan's areas. This position remains unchanged. dismal record human rights, evident in its treatment of Muhajirs and other minorities in Pakistan. (c) India and China are committed to work towards a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable settlement of the boundary question and this task has been entrusted [Trans/ation] to the India-China Joint Working Group. DDA FlatsJPlots to UPs 6705. SHRI SWAMI SURESHANAND : Will the Condition of Minorities in Pakistan Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be 6704. SHRI A. VENKATESH NAIK : Will the Minister pleased to state: of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether DDA have allotted flats or plots to the (a) whether any protocol changes were made in members of Parliament on priority basis during the last regard to composition of Indian delegation to the recent two years; meeting of the UN Human Rights Commission: (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) the norms prescribed for such allotment? (c) whether the Indian delegation drew attention of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF the Commission to the miserable condition of Muhajirs, URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYEMNT (SHRI P.K. and other minorities in Pakistan; THUNGON) : (a) to (c). The guidelines prescribed for out- (d) if so, the details thereof and the reaction of the of-turn allotment of DDA flats do not permit for making reaction of the Commission thereto; and allotment on the sole ground that a person is a Member of Parliament. DDA has reported that during the last two (e) if not, the reasons therefor? years, 8 MPS/Ex-MPs have been allotted flats in THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI accordance with the guidelines for out of turn allotment. PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (e). An Indian delegation No plot has, however, been allotted to any Member of comprising senior Ministers, Members of Parliament, other Parliament on priority basis. non-officlals and officials participated in the 51 st session of the UN Commission of Human Rights held in Geneva from 31 st January to 10th March 1995. List is enclosed. Inter-State DTC Fleet Composition of Indian delegation participated in the 6706. SHRI MANJAY LAL : Will the Minister of 51th S9S$/on of U.N. Commission of Human Rights SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 1. Shrl Gulam Nabi Azad (Minister of Civil Aviation) (a) whether the number of DTC buses on Inter-State 2. Shri Salman Khurshid (The Minister of State in the routes has been on the decrease; Ministry of Extemal Affairs) 3. Shri Bhuvnesh Chaturvedl (The Minister of State In (b) if so, the details thereof and the reasons theretor; and the Prime Minister's Office) 4. Shrll.K. GuJral, M.P. (c) the steps proposed to be taken in this regard? 147 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 148 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) and (b). Government are No, Sir. awa-re of Pakistan's continued efforts to acquire (b) and (c). Do not arise. sophisticated arms and equipment beyond its legitimate needs from various countries, including the US. However, [English] in 1990, as a resu'lt of the Pressler Amendment, the US stopped supply of military equipment to Pakistan. Pak PM's Statement (c) Goverment are of the firm view that arms race 6707. SHRI TARA SINGH: exacerbates international tension and believe that the best way to halt and reduce arms race is through increased SHRI SUDHIR SAWANT : confidence building based on transparency and exchange Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased of information. India has constantly pursued this approach to state: in its relations with its neighbours, including Pakistan. (a) whether attention of the Government has been Government had inter alia, proposed a Confidence drawn to the news-items captioned "Pak for multilateral Building Package in May 1990, pursuant to which forum on South Asia" appearing in the 'Hindus!ant Times' discussions on Confidence Building Measures have been dated April 10, 1995 and "Benazir launches diatribe over held at seven rounds of Foreign S~cretary level talks Kashmir" appearing in 'Statesman' dated April 10, 1995; between India and Pakistan. As further demonstration of (b) if so, the reaction of the Government thereto; and its commitment for reducing mistrust and enhancing (c) the counter steps taken/proposed to be taken by confidence between the two countries, government the Government in this regard? proposed additional Confidence Building Measures to the Government of Pakistan in one of the six non-papers THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI forwarded to Pakistan in January 1994. PRANAB MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (c). Government are aware of Pakistan's active and sustained efforts to agitate the Government are committed to resolving issues pertaining to bilateral relations with Pakistan peacefully J&K issue in the international fora and its motivated and through a process of bilateral negotiations as campaign directed against India to project a distorted stipulated under the Simla Agreement. Government have picture of the security climate in the sub-continent owing conveyed to Pakistan on several occasions and at all to its differences with India over J&K with the intention to levels our readiness to enter into a comprehensive and seek a third party intervention. Pakistani government at meaningful dialogue on ali outstanding issues. various levels including at the highest level has been involved in its propagandistic campaign over the J&K MOUs submitted by Industrialists issue. Government regard Pakistan's anti-India campaign 6709. SHRI A. VENKATESH NAIK: Will the Minister and its efforts to internationalise the J&K issue to be a in of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to contravention of the spirit of the Simla agreement. These state: negative actions of Pakistan vitiate the atmosphere of (a) whether industrial entrepreneurs have submitted bilateral relations and run counter to universally accepted a large number of memoranda during Eighth Five Year norms of inter-State relations. We are firmly committed to Plan with enormous capital investment for setting up the resolution of ali differences with Pakistan peacefully industries; through bilateral negotiations within the framework of the (b) if so, details thereof with potentials for jobs; Simla Agreement. There is no scope for any third country involvement. Government have and will continue to take (c) the states where these industries are likely to be all steps to apprise the international community of the set up and the number of industries proposec;l for backward true facts regarding situation in J&K. areas; (d) whether these industries have became US Pak Defence Relations operational; and (e) if not the reasons therefor? 6708: SHRI SHIV SHARAN VERMA. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased GOGO I) : (a) and (b). Since the begining of Eighth Five to state: Year Plan, in April 1992., 1895 Industrial Entrepreneur (a) whether attention of the Government has been Memoranda (IEMs) envisaging an Investment of Rs. drawn to the news-item captioned Pakistan among top 27073 crores and employment of 285360 person have arms importers, as reported in the Statesman dated the been flied upto March 1995. April 10, 1995; (c) State-wise details are given in the Statement (b) whether the Government are also aware of high attached. tech defence relations between the US and Pak; and (d) and (e). As per available Information, 403 units, (c) if so, the reaction of the Government in regard to out of the total IEMs flied so far, have reported its efforts made to reduce arms race in the subcontinent commen.cement of commercial production, Normally, 11 and to normalise its relations with Pak? takes 2-3 years for implementation 01 a project. 149 Written Answers JYAISTHA 1. 1917 (Saka) Written Answers 150 STATEMENT (e) whether Government propose to extend fertilizer subsidies to producers of fertilizer mixtures; and State-wise Summary of IEM filed during 1992-93 to (f) if so, the details thereof? 1994-95. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF S.No. Name of the State Total IEMs IEM filed CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS AND MINISTER OF filed for Back- STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS ward Areas AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN 1 Andhra Pradesh 136 55 DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) :(a) Details of expenditure incurred on fertilizer subsidy (exclusive 2. Assam 2 of special concession on decontrolled fertilizers) during 3. Bihar 18 15 the last three years are as under 4. Gujarat 136 59 Year Amount 5. Haryana 174 26 (Rs. in crore~) 6. Himachal Pradesh 27 21 7. Jammu & Kashmir 8 6 1992-93 5796.11 8. Karnataka 60 29 1993-94 4398.97 9. Kerala 24 11 1994-95 5241.00 (prOVisional) 10. Madhya Pradesh 165 108 (b) to (d). The subsidy claims, complete in all 11 Maharashtra 326 117 respects, are generally cleared within 60 days of their 12. Orissa 9 5 receipt from the manufacturers. subject to availability of 13. Punjab 154 62 budgetary allocations. Some amounts remain outstanding due to budgetary constraints, but the same 14. Rajasthan 135 71 are disbursed during the course 01 the next year. As on 15. Tamil Nadu 86 35 31.3 1995, claims amounting to Rs. 930 crores for 16. Uttar Pradesh 318 139 payment of subsidy received from manufacturers of 17. West Bengal 61 30 fertilizers remained pendin J for payment. A large portion of these outstandings pertained to the revised retention 18. Chandigarh 2 0 prices for the Sixth Pricing Penod which were notified 19. Dadar & Nagar Haveili 11 8 in the last quarter of 1994-85. Steps will be taken to 20. Delhi 18 0 expedite clearance of claims henceforth. 21. Daman & Diu 7 2 (e) and (1). No such proposal is under consideration. 22. Pondicherry 12 7 [English] 23. Goa 6 4 Problems of Indian Labourers Abroad Total 1895 790 6711. SHRI S.M. LALJAN BASHA : Will the Minister [Translation] 01 EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be p;eased to state' Fertiliser Subsidy (a) Whether the post of Labour Attache In Indian missions in the Middle East would be upgraded; 6710. SHRI NAWAl KISHORE RAI (b) if so, the details thereof: SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA : (c) whether more intensive and sensitive handling SHRI BHUBANESHWAR PRASAD MEHTA: of problems of Indian labourers is needed in the Middle East; Wmthe Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : (d) if so, the details thereol; and (a) the amount of fertilizer subsidy given by the (e) the steps proposed to be taken to strengthen Government during 1992-93, 1993-94 1994-95 the Labour department in Indian missions abroad? year-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) whether some claims for subsidy still remain EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) : (a) and (b). pending with the Government; Work relating to Indian nationais, ihcluding Indian labour is normally under the charge 01 the Consular Section of (c) if so, the details thereat; the Missions headed by Counsellor/First Secretaryl (dj the reasons for the delay in the clearance of Second Secretary working under the personal claims; supervision of the Head of Mission except in a few 151 Written Answers MAY 22, 1995 Written Answers 152 countries where due to very large presence of Indian (d) if so, the decision taken by the Government in workers there is separate Labour Section headed by this regard? Counsellor/First Secretary/Second Secretary Labour. An THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF upgradation in Consular Wing/Labour Wings where FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN these exist, is presently not under consideration of the GOGOI) : (a) and (b). As per the specifications laid Government'. down under the Prevention of Food Adulteration Act, (c) to (e). The Indian Missions in the Middle East 1954, a minimum of 10% of oil is required to be devote due and adequate attention, on a continuing maintained for Pickles in oil. However, as per the basis, to problems that there are brought to their standards laid down under the Fruit Products Order, attention. Each of our Missions has designated an officer 1955 (FPO), presence of such percentage of oil is not to interact with the Indian community. The Consular specified. officers at our Missions abroad are accessible to the (c) and (d). Pickle Manufacturers Association, Kerala public at all times. Heads of Missions take personal and several other pickle manufacturers besides filing interest in the problems of the Indian community, some cases in the various Courts have also made including Indian labour. Whenever any problem is representation about the percentage of oil specified brought to the attention of our Missions, the matter is under Prevention of Food Adulteration Act, 1954. An taken up with the sponsor/employer and the local Expert Committee under FPO has examined the matter, authorities for an amicable settlement. and action for consideration of the recommendations of the above Expert Committee by the Central Committee for Food Standards constituted under Prevention fo Food Ganga Dam Project Adulteration Act, 1954 has been initiated. 6712. SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH ORONA: Will the Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be Allotment of Government Accommodation pleased to state : to State Government (a) whether attention fo the government has been 6714. SHRI SHANKARRAO D. KALE : Will the drawn to the newsitem appeared in 'Dainik Jagaran' Minister of URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT be dated June 11, 1994, published from Kanpur (UP) pleased to state : regarding Ganga Dam 'Project; (a) the criteria followed white alloting Government (b) if so, whether the Union Government had asked accommodation from general pool to respective States the U.P. Government to submit the report on Ganga in Delhi; Dam Project; (b) the State-wise break up of Government (c) if so, whether the U.P. Government has since accommodation already allotted in Delhi till date; submitted the report; (c) whether Government have received complaints (d) if so, the highlights of the report; from certain states that the fixed norms for allotment are (e) whether Irrigation Research Centre Roorke's not being followed strictly; team has made on the spot study fo the site to examine (d) if so, the details and reasons therefor; and the soil; and (e) the steps being taken by the Union Government (f) if so, the details and findings thereof? to ensure that respective states are allotted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF accommodation as per rule? URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF THUNGON) : (a) to (f). Information is being collected URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI P.K. and will be laid on the Table of the Sabba. THUNGON) : (a) Allotment to employees of State Governments/Union Territories posted in Delhi is made Percentage of Oil in Pickle from General Pool on the specific recommendation of the Resident Commissioner of the concerned State 6713. SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA : Will the subject to a limit of 5 units to each State Government Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be and 2 units in respect of each Union Territory. Existing pleased to state : allotment made already to various State Government! Union Territory was allowed to continue subject to the (a) whether there is any condition for mixing 10% condItIon that additonal units in excess of the above oil in Pickle. limIt to their possession will revert to General Pool on (b) if so, the details thereof; v..j<..atlon. (c) whether the Government has 'Bcfllved ijflV (b) A Statement is enclosed. memorandum from the associatIon of P,rl (e) Accommodation.> are allotted to State (b) if so, the. quantity of fertilizers produced, as Governments as per extant rules/guidelines. against the targets set, during the last four years, year- wise and . STATEMENT (c) the reasons for the fertilizers production being less than the targets set ? Details of Units Placed at the Disposal of various THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF State Governments/Union Territories. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS, AND MINISTER OF S.No. State/UTs. Units STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTEF,I OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 1. ASSAM 07 ELECTRONICS AND DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (ar and 2. ANDHRA PRADESH 08 (b). The quantity of fertilizers produced as against the 3. o ARUNACHAL PRApESH 06 target set during the last four years are given below : 4. BIHAR 16 ('000 MT) 5. GUJARAT 05 Year Fertilizer Target Actual 6. GOA 05 Nutrients 7. HARYANA 05 8. HIMACHAL PRADESH 03 1991-92 Nitrogen 7350.0 7301.3 9. J & K 07 Phosphate 2650.0 2562.1 10. KARNATAKA 04 1992-93 Nitrogen 7700.0 7430.3 11. KERALA 07 Phosphate 2750.0 2306.2 12. MADHYA PRADESH 06 1993-94 Nitrogen 7800.0 7231.2 13. MAHARASHTRA 06 Phosphate 2200.0 1815.8 14. MANIPUR 05 1994-95 Nitrogen 8115.0 7945.4 15. MEGHALAYA 04 Phosphate 2331.0 2492.8 16. MIZORAM 05 (c) Till 1991-92, there had been a gradual and 17. NAGALAND 02 steady increase in the production of nitrogenous and 18. ORISSA 10 phosphatic fertilizers over the years. As a matter of fact, 19. PUNJAB 06 the pmduction of nitrogen (73.01 lakh tonnes) and 20. RAJASTHAN 04 phosphate (25.62 lakh tonnes) in that year was an all 21. SIKKIM 08 time record till that time. 22. TAMIL NADU 04 In August, 1992, based on the recommendations of 23. TRIPURA 07 the JPC on Fertilizer Pricing, all phosphatic fertilizers were removed from the price and movement controls. 24. UITAR PRADESH 09. Part of the nitrogen production comes from the 25. WEST BENGAL 11 phosphatic fertilizers like DAP and complexes. As a 26. A & N ISLANDS 13 result of decontrol, the prices of phosphatic fertilizers in 27. D & N HAVELI, DAMAN 8. DIU 03 the open market went up sharply; this led to decline in 28. LAKSHDWEEP 04 consumption and ultimately the production. The shortfall in nitrogen production in 1992-93 was partly due to 29. PONDICHERRY 07 reduced availability of this nutrient from reduced, 30. CHANDIGARH 02 production fo DAP and complexes and partly due to poor performance of the two sick PSUs namely, Hindustan Fertilizer Corporation Ltd. (HFC) and Fertilizer Decline in Fertilizer Production Corporation of India Ltd. (FCI), coupled with equipment problems in some other units. 6715. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE RAI : The reasons for shortfall in production in 1993-94 SHRI GUMAN MAL· LODHA : were the same as a 1992-93. In fact, a number of DAP SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI : and complex fertilizer units suspended producti'on Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS because of the reduced demand and stiff competition be pleased to state : from the imported DAP which was available at much cheaper rates. (a) whether there has been a constant decline in the Indigenous production of fertilizers during the last Things started looking up in 1994-95. There was four years; only a 2% shortfall in production of nitrogen mainly due 155 MAY 22, 1995 156 to problems in the availability of 'natural gas and low MR. SPEAKER: That is why you have been given production in the sick units of HFC and FC!. In spite of the opportunity to speak. this, there was a growth of 9.9% in the production of SHRI B.L. SHARMA PREM : I have visited the place nitrogen compared to 1993-94. The target of phosphate of accident. I reached there after 2 hours of the was over achieved with a growth of about 37%. happening. About 50 jhugies have been reduced to ashes and in ali 9 persons were burnt in the fire. There were one women and eight children among them. I 12.04 hrs. agree with the hon. Member, Shri Ram Vilas Paswan that some permanent steps should be taken in Delhi to (Interruptions) ensure that the poor people do not have to face such [Translation] fire accidents. These people should be rehabilitated on a permanent basis. A judicial inquiry should be ordered SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay North) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, into this accident and compensation paid to the victims. I have given a notice for breach of privilege against Shri Tytler and the Home Minister, Shri S.B. Chavan. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV (Azamgarh) Mr. Speaker, Sir, nine persons including one woman and MR. SPEAKER: Let me go through it. Let me hear eight children have died in this fire accident in their pOint of view also. then, we will decide. Seemapuri. It has been reported in the newspapers that SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Rosera) : Mr. Speaker, the Chief Minister of Delhi has made an announcement Sir. almost every year during the months of May and of paying Rs. 10,0001- each to the parents of the children June, cases of fire are reported from many parts of the and Rs. 20,000/- to the dependent of the woman killed country and Delhi, the capital of the country seems to in this accident. There has been discrimination in this be worst affected. because the dependents of the deceased woman will be given Rs. 20,000/- whereas Rs. 10,0001- will be There was a massive fire incident in Seemapuri given for the children died. It is not proper as the children yesterday in which large number of jhuggies were gutted are the future of the country. Their deaths cannot be and one women and eight children died. It was a very compensated but the amount of money proposed to be tragic accident.' Of Course the government will give given, is very less. relief of Rs. 10-12 thousands but the question is why Such type of incidents are very common in jhugi- such accidents take place, particularly in Delhi, the jhopri areas of Delhi. Sometimes, these people suffer capital of the country? Why precautionary measures from cholera by drinking contaminated water from the are not taken to prevent such tragic accidents? I am pipes. Fire accidents which geneally take place at 2,4.5,6 raising this maHer in order to know through you, Sir, as places every year as a result of which thousands of to whether the Central Government will make a people are affected. One of the causes for such accidents statement about the preventive measures to be taken is that they are not supplied electricity and they take it by the Central as well as the Delhi Government to from the poles and from other means. Government ensure that such accidents do not recur during the should see to it that they are supplied at least the basic remaining 2-3 months of the summer season? The amenities such as electricity and drinking water. If the Government has started relief work. We want to know Government is not in position to provide them pucca the steps proposed to be taken by Government to check houses and other facilities, at least electricity and such accidents in future ? I want an assurance through drinking water should be supplied to them. If the' you that the Government will make a statement and Government would have provided them the electricity, take this matter seriously. they would not have taken electricity in an iliegal way MR. SPEAKER: If I say something on your which caused this fire. But the most basic question insistence then, it will become very difficult. Please leave which needs consideration is that the number of slums this to me. and slum dwellers are continuously increasing. It has assumed a national problem. The people from the rural SHRI B.L SHARMA PREM (East Delhi) Mr. areas are migrating to the urban areas in search of Speaker, Sir, the population of East Delhi is about 36 employment whiCh causes inconvenience to the people lakh and people from every walks of life are living living in urban areas. Government should ponder over there. There have been nine cases of murder, 4 cases this problem and formulate a scheme. of rape and 4 cases of looting during the last 1Y2 months. I can give date-wise details in a minute. People are migrating from rural areas in search of employment are forced to live in jhuggies. As many as MR SPEAKER: Please do not raise such matters. 10 persons are living in a jhugi which is meant for only The fire incidents are being discussed. two persons. SHRI B.L SHARMA PREM : If it is about fire Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to urge upon the Government incident then New Seemapuri falls in my constituency. to provide ad~quate amount of compensation to the 157 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) 158 people affected by this accident and take suitable..$teps on 12th January, 1995 and chalked out a programme to ensure that such incidents do not take place in other for the eviction 'of these shopkeepers from the' shops. areas in future. The shopkeepers approached the Court of Deoria and got a stay order on 7th February, 1995. DeSpite the {English] stay order they have chalked out a plan for demolition MR. SPEAKER : I think, every year, something of drive on 27th May. this nature appears to be happening. This is within the Mr. Speaker, Sir, through you I urge upon the jurisdiction of the Delhi Government and probably Delhi Ministry of Railways that the unemployed shopkeepers, Government has given assistance to the families who who have got the stay order from the Court shQuld not have lost their hear and dear ones. be evicted from their shops and those should not be THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF demolished. SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : There has been an increase in the Budget allocations. {English] They have been provided Rs. 500 crore for resettlement KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE (Calcutta South): Sir, of jhuggi-jhonpries, provision of electrlcity and water to them and sanitation facilities. So, I think, Delhi I am getting a lot of letters from physically handicapped Government might have done something under that. and mentally retarded persons that after the death at their parents there is no one to look after the interests MR. SPEAKER : Firstly, this House would like to of these persons. The Government have got so many know whom the land belongs to. It is because that will schemes such as old-age pension scheme and freedom give us the clue as to why the fire had occurred. fighters sche:ne. But there is no such scheme for Secondly, what is it that VVe are doing to stop the handicapped persons either with the Central incidents of this nature? Government or with the State Government. May I request And thirdly - of course, the Government has given the Government through you to give some allowance or assistance to the people who have suffered - we would start some schemes for this type of people so that after like to know whether steps were taken to extinguish the the death of their parents, they are not allowed to go fire in time or not. I do not think that Parliament can just round begging and not allowed to be purchased by be a spectator when this kind of things are happening other people. I hope the Chair will instruct the in this part of the country every year. I hope that this Government to do something for them. information will be collected from the concerned SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI (Deogarh) : Hon. authorities or the Government and will be supplied to Speaker, Sir, there is a lot of discontentment among the Parliament. industrial workers as their three genuine demands are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF yet to be fulfilled. Their first demand relates to increase DEFENCE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY in the ceiling for payment of bonus. The present ceiling OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): for payment of bonus is Rs. 2,500. After the revisioT! of We will write to the Chief Minister to furnish the required pay scales almost every industrial worker in the public data and measures that are being taken to prevent sector is getting more than Rs. 2,500 per month. With. such things in future. the result 95 per cent of the employees have lost their MR. SPEAKER: Writing will not be sufficient. We entitlement to get bonus. Therefore, this needs to be want information. revised l'pwards. The second demand relates to introduction of slabs in the Dearness Allowance system. SHRI MALLIKARJUN : We will try to extract it. This had been agreed to by the hon. Minister of Labour but this has not been given effect to. It is, therefore. {Translation] needs to be implemented as early as possible. Their SHRI HARI KEWAL PRASAD (Salempur) : Mr. third demand relates to pension-for-all scheme. The Speaker, Sir, about 200 poor persons have been earning Government have taken a decision to give pension to their livelihood by running pan and tea stalls and all the industrial workers regardless of their contribution restaurants on the railway' land at Deoria Railway station to the Provident Fund. In Uttar Pradesh for the last 50 years. During the year 1993, the Railway officers got demolished some of the A Bill Is also pending in this regard. This has got shops when these poor persons failed to pay the money to be expedited. On this score discontentment among demanded by the Railway Authorities. When I visited the industrial workers is mounting up. I afT' afraid that Deoria and came to know about it, i wrote to the Railway various Central Unions are also giving notices for strikes Department and when the matter was examined, it was in the industries. Therefore, I would request the found that all the shops were allotted to them and these Government of India through you that immediate action shops were constructed there with the permission of be taken without any loss of time. There is some Railway Department. When this matter was still being pendency because of some examination of this by the examined, the Railway officers got the allotment of these Finance Ministry also. So the Labour Ministry and the shops cancelled through the divisional Officer, Varanasi Finance Ministry should sort it oijt as early as possible ,59 MAY 22. 1995 160 MR. SPEAKER: Let them not fight here on the floor SHRI MOHAN RAWALE (Bombay South Central) 01 ,r,e house and you also do not instigate them to fight Mr. Speaker, Sir, yesterday we have come to know from ce!we,·n themselves. It is no good your saying that this the newspapers that five 151 spies have been arrested M,!)IS1IY should go to that Ministry and things like that. in Kashmir. During the discussion on the charar-e- SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : I am requesting Sharief, it was stated that Pakistan is making allegations them to sort it out. I did not mean that. against India. According to BBC news, Pakistan is alleging that Indian have set fird to the Charer-e-Sharief MR. SPEAKER : This is against the parliamentary practices any Member asking one Ministry to go to the I would like to urge upon the Government as to whether other Ministry and to do something. we can not interrogate those five people who have been arrested to know the truth? We should expose the SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : I have asked them designs of Pakistan. Our lobby is becoming very weak. to sort it out, Sir, Intervening in the discussion on the burning of Charar- MR. SPEAKER: No, this is not alt. As a whole, they e-sharief, the Minister had stated in the House that the are responsible to the House. agents of lSI set fire to the Dargah. But how we are SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : Anyway, Sir, I being implicated and it is being alleged that Indians set request the Government as a whole to consider this. fire to the Dargah. Government should take steps to counteract this propaganda and expose the activities of MR. SPEAKER: Let not the Members instigate one lSI in regard to Bomb blasts in Bombay. M,nlstry against the other. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : This is the reply we PROF. RITA VERMA (Dhanbad) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, are gelting from the Minister on the floor of the House, I have already drawn your and the House's attention to that this has been reterred to the Finance Ministry and the misbehaviour meted out to a BJP women M.L.A. in like that. That is why I am making a reference otherwise Bihar some days ago. It is very unfortunate that the I need not make a reference. incidents of misbehaviour with women are increasing in the country day by day. It has become an order of the MR. SPEAKER: No, that is not correct. Your asking them to go to some other Ministry is also not correct. day particularly in Uttar Pradesh. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : Anyway, Sir I request In an unfortunate incident, a Datit Women leader that the Government as a whole should address itself was kidnapped by a Samajwadi Party legislator and by to this problem. his goondas. The new facts which have come to lights about this kidnapping indicate that she was kept at the MR. SPEAKER: You have made your pOint, please. official residence of a Minister of the Samajwadi Party [Trans/ation] for more than three day i.e. for 80 hours. In the meantime, an FI.R. was lodged in which a Samajwadi SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF FATMI (Darbhanga): Party M.L.A. was named but even then, he was not Mr S~tl~ker .. Sir. the han. Minister of External Affairs is arrested. When no action was taken, a dharna and silting here. I would like to raise a very important matter demonstration on behaH of all the political parties were here. At:>out 5 lakh N.R.l.s are living in Saudi Arabia who remit huge sums of foreign exchange to India. The held, only then the woman was freed. She divulged the schools being run through the Indian Embassy are being name of that Minister in a press conference. If you allow clo~.ed by the Government of that country as a result of me, I can give the name, he is the Forest Minister wh,~'" 30.000 Indian children who study in those schools there ... are faCing great difficulty. The school in Riyadh has MR. SPEAKER: Facts ar", not known to us In such been closed down. According to the latest reports, notices cases, who is responsible in that case of Dati! woman for closing down of other schools have also been and what is against her; we cannot say anything in that ;s~,,,,·d I request the han. Minister to make every case upto when the facts does not come before us. po&slble effort to keep these schools running and if there is a need to talk to the Government of that country. PROF RITA VERMA: But I want to raise that matter please do it so that the study of the children IS not through you, Sir, Rather I would request that Government affected. If it is not done the parents of those children should make a statement on it today itseH. Though the will lose their jobs due to their children. When they will women does not belong to our party but BJP do not cor·· .. back to India they will have face a lot of difficulties. politicise the Issues relating to the honour of women ... [Eng/lSI:] MR SPEAKER : A discussion on atrocities on MR SPEAKER: Would you like to respond? women has been fixed for 25th May, 1995. PROF. RITA VERMA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would take [Translation} one minute only. She was misbehaved. Her saree was THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF torn. She was elected to the village Panchayat. She EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI RL BHATIA) : I will collect was kidnapped at gun point from the headquarters of the requisite information and apprise the House about it CPI 'tn order to prevent her from taking part in the 161 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) election to the post of sarpanch. The Samajwadi Party dispute has not been solved for several years. Ttl'_'" . M.L.A. brought goondas in the jeep and she was the Mahajan Commission has g,v"n its Report qUite kidnapped at gun point. You can understand how the some time back, it has not bee' Implemented so far honour of the women is safe there? She was kept at the The border areas in both the States have not been olficial residence of the Minister and she herself given developed and remained backward due to uncertainty statement that she was misbehaved ... There has been tension prevailing in both the States due to public utterances. This is a matter of urgency. I [English] would like to request the Government, through you, to see that this problem is solved so that both the- States MR. SPEAKER : Please do not go into the details. can come to the rescue of their respective are:; You also might not be knowing them. That is all right development programmes. now. [Translation} [Translation] SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH (Buxar) : Mr. Deputy PROF. RITA VERMA : After that incident she was Speaker, Sir, every state is being supplied wheat, rice. offered a sum of Rs. 2000/- by saying that the money Kerosene oil and coal for the Public Distribution System was being given us compensation as her saree was by Union Government of India but with great regret i torn. Have we stooped so low that we value the honour have to state that the State of Bihar IS not getting these of women on terms of money. things according to its needs. The position is that the SHRI ATAL BIHAR I VAJPAYEE (Lucknow) : Mr. quantity of coal being supplied to it in 1995 is less than Speaker, Sir, the most unfortunate part of it is that this that supplied some two years back whereas all the co, incident has happened in Lucknow Which is my mines are in Bihar and the coal price is Rs. 80/- p6 constituency. You can imagine the feelings of a person tone I would urge upon the Government of India to nOl who is the representative from that area. only increase the quantity of coal supplied to Bihar, but the wheat, rice and kerosene oil also. 'Arwa' rice is n ", [English] consumed in the tribal areas but it is only this rk, MR. SPEAKER: I can understand that. which is being supplied through PDS. I urge upon the Central Government to ensure that adequate quantity of (Interruptions) wheat, rice, kerosene oil and coal is supplied to Bihar SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE (Dumdum) : for distribution through PDS. 11 this is not done, I fear That is a reflection on the Member of Parliament from that every state can become Kashmir. So, these Lucknow ... (Interruptions) commodities should be supplied in adequate quantity in the interest of maintaining peace there. [Translation] PROF. RITA VERMA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like [English] to request that the Home Minister may be directed to SHRI KABINDRA PURKAYASTHA (SUchar) Sir. apprise the House about the facts of this case without goods are being exported from India to Bangladesh. As any further delay. That Minister should be dismissed per the information of the External Affairs Ministry, goods and the Minister and the M.L.A. should be arrested. like cement, stoned chips, steel billets, electric poles, SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH (Jahanabad): white cements etc. are being exported. For exporting Mr. Speaker, Sir, the International Relations Committee the goods from India, the communication system is not at all good, particularly in the North-East, 300 truck- of the American Congress has passed two resolutions. loads of goods are being exported to Bangladesh. But One is a punishment to India and the other is a reward there is no road. One road is there from Karimganj to to Pakistan. According to one resolution, it has been Sutarkandi up to the border of Bangladesh. stated that the economic assistance being given to India under an agreement will be discontinued and in the This is under the State Government. The condition second resolution, it has been said that the aid of the road is so bad that the trucks cannot move. discontinued to Pakistan under the Pressler law will be So, I demand that this road - considering it as a resumed. The ruling party supposed and the Democratic border road - should be constructed by the Ministry of party opposed it. We should thank the Democratic party Surface Transport at the earliest. for opposing those resolutions. We should not succumb to American pressure like this and in order to save our Secondly, from Calcutta to Narayanganj there IS a country the Government should not fall into American regular steamer service. However. from North·East, there trap. is not such steamer service existing at present. Earlier from Karimganj to Bangladesh. the steamer service was [English] regular. Now, this has been stopped. SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA URS (Mysore) : Mr. So, I request that a ste3lher service from Silchar Speaker, Sir, the Karnataka-Maharashtra boundary covering Badarpurghat and Karimganj upto NarayanganJ 163 MAY 22, 1995 Papers Laid 164 should be started, so that exporters can send their goods as early as possible. The report of the- Enquiry In an easier manner and at a low export cost. This is Commission on Jameshedpur riots of 1989. was to be done in the interests of the exporters of our country, discussed in Parliament. This report should also be so that they can send their goods to Bangladesh. discussed. The people of the country have the right to know as to what and when Government propose to take [Translation] action on this report. SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, as my friend, Shri Bhatlaji is sitting here, I want to raise a [English] very important issue. I want to thank the Government of MR. SPEAKER Now. Papers to be laid on the India for not succumbing to the pressure on the question Table. of signing NPT, {English] 12.35 hrs. Mr. Carlton Stoiber, Director of NRC's International Relations, said it was going to be difficult for the US to PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE cooperate with India on nuclear saf~ after the New York conference this month. Notification under Essential Mr. Stoiber said and I quote : Commodities Act, 1995 "India could end up running unsafe reactors [English] and its nuclear power programme might collapse by remaining isolated from the THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND majOrity of nations that voted for NPT's FERTILIZERS (SHRI RAM LA KHAN SINGH YADAV) : extention." Sir, I beg to lay on the Table : a copy of the Fertiliser (Movement Control) Amendment Order, 1995 (Hindi and India and tile United States have for the last English versions) published in Notification No. S.O. two years been cooperating on matters 383{E) in Gazette of India dated the 28th April, 1995, concerning .the safety of nuclear power under sub-section (6) of section 3 of the Essential plants." Commodities Act, 1995. {Translation] [Placed in Library. See No. L.T. 7660/95J Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to raise this issue because we could not get an opportunity to have a discussion Notification under Merchant on the budget of Ministry of External Affairs here. I want Shipping Act, 1958 etc. to tell Sh'ri Bhatia that such threat amounts to a THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF challenge to our sovereignity. The Minister of External SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : Sir, Affairs is in USA for a visit. They have threatened that I beg to lay on the Table : they will stop transfer the nuclear safety technology to us. I would like that Shri Bhatia should respond to it and (1) A copy each of the following Notifications (Hindi tell the House that what the Government propose to do and English versions) under sub-section (3) of in this regard? section 458 of the Merchant Shipping Act, 1958: (i) The Merchant Shipping (Continuous [Eng/is.h] Discharge Certificate) Amendment Rules, MA. SPEAKER :. Shri Syed Shahabuddin to speak 1995 published in Notification No. G.S.R. now. 270{E) in Gazatle of India dated the 2nd I think. this matter was raised once. February, 1995. (ii) The Merchant Shipping (Continuous [Translation] Discharge Certificate) for the Amendment SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (Kishanganj) : No, Mr. Rules, 1995 published in Notification No. Speaker, Sir, the disturbances in Bhagalpur in 1989 G.S.A. 270(E) In Gazette of India dated were unprecendented In the history.of independent India the 16th March, 1995. which caused a great concern in the country. The issue [Placed in Library, See No. L.T. 7661/95] was discus4ed in Parliament also and the Central Government decided to provide relief to the victims. A . (2) A copy ot the Third Supplementary Agreement Commission of enquiry was also set up. The Commission (Hindi and English versions) entered into has submitted its final report in March this year after a betw"n the President of India and the Governor period of 412 years to the Government of Bihar, but no of Orissa to partially amend and/or modHy the action has been taken on it so far. I want to remind the Principal Agreement dated the 20th July, 1961 House that we are all concerned and want action on It regarding Maintenance and Development of 165 Papflrs Laid JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Mattflrs Under Rule 377 166 Urban Links of National Highways in Orissa, 12.36 hrs. under section 10 of the National Highways Act, 1956. MAnERS UNDER RULE 377 [Placed in Library. See No. L.T. 7662/95] [English] Report of Comptroller and Auditor General of India (i) Need to Set up an L.P.G. Outlet at Sihora Union Government (No. 13 of 1995)-(Commercial) Town, District Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR PATEL (Jabalpur) : Sir, FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN the rural people of Sihora Tehsil of Jabalpur district GOGO I) : Sir, I beg to lay on the Table : a copy of the suffer a great deal for want of a Ilquified petroleum gas Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Comptroller agency in the area. In the present era of development, and Auditor General of India - Union Government (No. when we are marching into the 21 st century. when for 13 of 1995) - (Commercial) - Modern Food Industries fear of over-exploitation of the woods and denudation (India) Limited under article 151 (1) of the Constitution. of forest cover, even the rural' people can no longer [Placed in Library. See No. L.T. 7663/95] depend on forest-fuel, the people of Sihora have to carry gas cylinders for over forty-five kilometres, either Notification under Bhopal Gas Leak Disaster from Jabalpur or Katni. Besides the. fact that It is illegal (Processing of Claims) Act, 1985 to carry the gas cylinders by private means, it is equally THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF dangerous. DEFENCE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Sihora is one of the biggest Tehslls of Jabalpur and OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): Sihora Tehsil town, with its rural surroundings, comprises Sir, on behalf of Shri Eduardo Falerio, I beg to lay on a population of around 0.5 lakh and has its own history. the Table : a copy of the Bhopal Gas Leak Disaster The people of Sihora had actively participated in the (Registration and Processing of Claims) Amendment Freedom struggle on the clarion call of the Father of the Scheme, 1995 (Hindi and English versions) published Nation - Mahatma Gandhi. Their main occupation is in Notification No. G.S.R. 330(E) in Gazette of India agriculture. dated the 4th April, 1995, under sub-section (3) of It would, therefore, be proper to provide an LPG section 9 of the Bhopal Gas Leak Disaster (Processing distribution outlet in Sihora town to cater to the pressing of Claims) Act, 1985. needs of the people there. I urge upon the hen. Minister [Placed in Library, See No. L.T. 7664/95] of Petroleum and Natural Gas. to ensure that' an LPG dealership is I?rovided for Sihora town at the earliest. Annual Report and Review on the working of and Annual Accounts of National Federation of . (i1) Need to Widen l'rlYandrum • Kanyakunulri Industria' Cooperatives, New Delhi for 1993-94 National Highway THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SHRI N. DENNIS (Nagercoil) : Sir, Trivandrum- INDUSTRY (DEPARTMENT OF SMALL SCALE Kanyakumari National Highway Is one of the busiest INDUSTRIES AND AGRO AND RURAL INDUSTRIES) roads in the country. Due to heavy passenger and (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : Sir, I beg to lay on the vehicular traffic, there Is continuous congestion and Table: frequent blockages in the road, causing long delay in covering even short distances and thus causing much 1 (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and inconvenience to passengers. The width of the road English) versions) of the National remains narrow for long, which Is too inadequate to Federation of Industrial Cooperati'les meet the increasing traffic. The delay to widen the road limited, New Delhi, for the year 1993-94. result In accidEints. Mor9OYer, Inadequate maintenance (iI) A copy of the Review (Hindi !Old English and upkeep of the National Highway In Kanyakumari versions) by the Government of the district is causing concern to pas8engers. working of the National Federation of Therefore, I urge upon the Government to tai (iv) Need to Connect Suburban Areas around (vi) Need to Strictly Enforce the Provision of Madras with Direct Dialing System Prevention of Cruelty to Animal Act SHRI S.S.R. RAJENDRA KUMAR (Chengalpattu) SHRI K.T. VANDAYAR (Thanjavur) : Sir, cows. Mr. Speaker, Sir, Chengalpattu constituency in Tamil buffaloes, oxen are transported from villages to slaughter Nadu is bordering the city of Madras. Madras city is a centres from one province to another. In the movement fast expanding metropolitan city and hence its limits are of the cattle being taken by road for five or six days being extended into the district of Chengalpattu. Most continuously, they are starved of fodder and water. Many of the new settlement areas along with. new business of them collapse during the journey. centres, factories, educational institutions etc. are now set up in the suburban areas. Much development has In order to put an end to this cruelty, the Government taken place between Madras city and Chengalpattu of India in the Department of Animal Husbandry should town. Many people who felt inconvenience in residing issue direction to all the concerned authorities that ,., already-congested Madras city limits have shifted animals should not be transported from one province to their residence to the suburban areas which is about another without providing basic necessities, for slaughter 50 kilometres away from the Madras city centre. purpose, especially when it violates the provisions of , Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act. The Government The Madras telephone exchange and the should formulate a scheme by associating Animal Chengalpattu exchange lines are connected in the same Welfare Board thereby putting an end to this cruelty so place in most at the suburban areas. For example, a that the cattle, if required, hygienically slained and the village namely Mambakkam, Is connected with the frozen beef be transported from one province to another Chengalpattu exchange where a call is connected to for a civilised dining. The S.P'C.A. can also be instructed Madras city only by S.T.D. facility and the same village to enforce this instruction along with the voluntary is also connected with the Madras telephone exchange agencies so that besmirching slaughter is put an where the same call is connected to Madras city by end to. local dialling without using S.T.D. I request the Minister of Communications to take (vii) Need for Early Construction of Gas Turbine necessary action to convert all the suburban areas at Banskandi and Adamtila, Assam around Madras city within 50 kilometres for providing direct dialling facility by connecting them to Madras SHRI KABINDRA PURKAYASTHA (Silchar) : Sir, exchange. foundation stones were laid by the Chief Minister of Assam for two Gas Turbine projects, one at Banskandi (v) Need to Provide better Air Services to in the district of. Cachar and the other at Adamtilla in the district of Karimganj in the month of April, 1995. As per Arunachal Pradesh information, It"total quantity of about 25 MW electricity .SHRt LAETA UMBREY (Arunachal East) : Sir, will be generated out of the two. But. the people of the Arunachal Pradesh, the land of rising sun with one of Barak Valley are still In suspense whether the the richest natural resources, remains the most construction work will be started soon or not. The M.O.U. backward State of the country. The State with . was signed with a' company of Delhi. But this company international border on three sides with Myanmar, China is stili hesitant to start the work of construction as th'ey and Bhutan, is yet to be linked to the mainland by air. have not got clearance from the O.N.G.C., whether they Few small landing strips constructed for Vayudoot win continue to supply gas for 20 years as per the services are abandoned. The State capital, Itanagar company's demand. It Is learnt that this has not yet has not even a smaH air strip. The entire population of been finallaed. Thla is unfortunate that foundation stones the State, including Hanagar, have to travel all along to are laid but actual works are not started in many cases. 169 FinanC9 Bill, 1995 Jyo,lSTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Fmance Bill. 1995 I urge upon the Central Government to remove all Sir. what is noteworthy about the indirect lax is :he obstacles in the way of construction of gas turbines in concessions proposed by the non. Finance Min,:."·' consideration of the extreme scarcity of eiectricity in the would all contribute further to liberalisatlOn ana 9reat'" Barak Valley of Assam and pave the way tor immediate competitiveness in the economy. Sir, delv,ng .JI, starting of construction. speculations and soothsaying of political c~ndlts, and more precisely, their Wishful thinking, the filth budget of 1995·96 trots along the chartered course it took off In 12.47 hrs. 1991 If you analyse. as in the last four budgets. the programme of reform is not only sustained, but is FINANCE BILL 1995 - Contd. acquires a distinct dimenSion In this budget, 11 IS not a new dimenSion but a more pronounced MR. SPEAKER Let us take up the legislative one with special accent on the ultimate purpose of business. Mr. Handique will speak now reforms. I.e .. poverty alleviation. The major assault on SHRI BIJOY KRISHNA HANDIQUE (Jorhat) Mr. poverty which the Budget launches makes the critics Speaker. Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill presented run away with the impreSSion that this Budget is populist by the hon. Finance Minister, Dr. Singh At the outset. and election-oriented, Their logic, it appears, is that the I welcome the further concessions in direct and Indirect cause of the poor needs to be put In COld-storage in the taxes which the han. Finance Minister announced while elect'on year. Rather, it is the pragmatic approach of the presenting the Finance Bilt. Finance Minister to re·emphasise .this element in the Sir, I will specially refel to his decIsion to further more pronounced manner. We have to be cautions on one point: that the road to reforms may not always be extend the five years tax holiday scheme for the development of transport enabling the entrepreneurs to com'onable In the transitional stage it may even hurt the most vulnerable. So, the poor who are targeted to avail themselves of the scheme within the first 12 years be the ultimate beneficiaries of the reforms need to be of operation. The present state of transport Infrastructure cushioned till we attain our objective. Thus the Budget in the country leaves it very badly in need of massive improvement. And the high employment potential of attempts to give a humane fact to economic reforms these investments, however, requires Government's and the Finance Minister unfolds a series of measures appropriate incentives to materialise. However. Sir. there for social justice and poverty alleviation. Allocations for rural development, employment and poverty alleviation are certain points in respect of tax holiday. that merit have been raised to Rs, 7,700 crore. We need to keep addressing. This concession under Section 81 ia) of Income Tax Act as proposed in the Finance Bill in mind that in the course of the four B.udgets, if we analyse the strategy broad-based growth for macro particularly to large industries which invest in backward States and districts is expected to lead to regional economic reform has clicked, His first emphasis was on development. This concession is, however, available to transfer of resources to the agricultural sector. So, there were successive Increases in the foodgrain prices and enterprises which build, maintain and operate intrastructural facilities for highways, expressways, new the stepping up of developmental outlays. As a result. foodgrain production rose form 168 million tonnes in bridges. ports and rapid mass transport system. In the context of poor development of the North Eastern region 1992-93 to 183 million tonnes in 1994-95, The growth rate of industnal production has risen from 0.5 per cent where there is not infrastructure at all, these five years will just fly off while the infrastructure attains completion in 1991-92 to 8.7 per cent in 1994-95 and the employment generation from 30 million mandays to 60 and before the proposed industry takes off. That is why, there were practically no takes for five years tax holiday million mandays a year. After triggering the growth in the North Eastern region when it was announced in process in agricultural sector, the Finance Minister 1993 and we, from the North Eastern region, have been directs his efforts to job creation, to substantial outlays repeatedly demanding it to be raised to 10 years tax In housing and to rejuvenating the tiny, small scale and holiday so that this backward region can attract village industries and the textile sector, For, these sectors have the best employment·capital investment ratio. They Investment in tUI n will further boost the demand for wage goods Besides, Sir, in the North Eastern region air service and manufacturing goods and measures are also specifically needs to be included in the infrastructure proposed for upgrading quality and productivity thereby development. In view of drastic reductions of Indian boosting the exports from these sector. tn thiS area, he Airlines flights in all sectors, proposed closure in some also proposes a series of support measures for the sectors. refusal 01 private airliners to operate in not so small scale industry The turn over exemption on 30 per profitable routes and in spite of the lact that on thiS very cent profits from direct taxes have been extended for condition these private airliners were given the trunk any small scale unit coming into production before and profitable routes, a neal paralYSIS situation has Apnl 1, 2000. ansen 10 the air service sector of the region, which IS not eardy accessible I urge the hon, Minister's attention Sir, the second thrust area is infrastructural on this point. development for poverty alleviation, Through proposed 171 Finance Sin,' 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Sill, 1995 172 Rural Infrastructural Development Fund within NABARD. the grey areas in the system and plug the t6opholes. The most innovative initiative of all the new Initiatives, Firstly, there is an absence of relevant targe~ and there the commercial banks will have to pump in about Rs. are more lacunae in tlie enforcement of these targets. 2,000 crore to State Governments with a view to Banks' take the easy way by preferring the' better off completing the on-going projects and Rs. 1,000 crore sections because the risk factor is usually less. to Khadi and Village Industries Commission for financing Secondly, they yield to pressure or even become a the small enterprises, besides providing Rs. 500 crore party to ganging up for increasing credit, though through cooperative and commercial banks for increased lending does not necessarily lead to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes beneficiaries incre,ased development. It ultimately results in increased in agricultural and other investment activities. Thus for indebtendness with little regard for the social purpose rural development, the banks have been given a great of productivity for which the loan was advanced. Thirdly, responsibility. very often, counter-productive targets are adopted. It displays lack of expertise in selecting the right projects. But in view of the behavioural pattern of the banking Fourthly, for extending the credit to weaker sections, the sector, I have, however, certain reservations about the banks are required to earmark and fund equivalent to smooth and purposeful implementation of such a series ten per cent of their net credits. For this purpose, banks of good measures as things stand today. must have a band of inspired workers who are As regards the backs in the cooperative sector in committed to the cause of weaker sections. EVen the country, of the 1400 banks, nearly haH of them are sections of the society but to arouse a sense of reported to be sick. Sixty such banks in Maharashtra involvement in those people so that they participate in and Uttar Pradesh have been put up for auction by the a spirit of give and take. RBI. The cooperate credit variate was started to get the farmers out of the clutches of the moneylenders. Now, 13.00 hr•. the problem Is to get the cooperative movement out of Fifthly, despite more than a quarter of a century of the clutches of the vested interests. So, some corrective nationalisation, banks have not been successful in measures must be taken and ensured. Before I dwell providing the right kind of work force' in rural outfits. The more on this point, I have also taken note of the hon. rural area needs personalised banking services with a Minister's laudable efforts for alleviation of urban poverty . local character to command the confidence of the people. for which he proposed in the Finance Bill an amendment Without such reorientation, eventhe proposed open'ing to insert a new clause, clause (e) in SUb-section 2 of the of 100 branches of public sector banks will not serve Income-Tax Act. Under this provision, deduction will be the purpose. I am afraid that unless the hon. Finance allowed in respect of any sum paid by an assessee to Minister has a very effective monitoring and vigorous the National Urban PoVerty Alleviation Fund set up- and supervision done it will not serve the purpose. notified by the Central Government. Thus, the Finance MR. SPEAKER : How much time do you need? If Minister extends a major role to the commercial banks you need more time, you can start after the Lunch Hour. In the area of rural poverty alleviation, and for dealing with urban poverty he creates a fund for which the SHRI BIJOY KRISHNA HANDIQUE : Yes, I will provision for tax deduction will be an incentive. resume my speech after the Lunch Hour. Sir, theoretically it is correct to consider banks and MR. SPEAKER : The House stands adjourned to financial institutIOns as legitimate instruments of social meet again at 2.00 P.M. and economic changes. Even as banks expand their actlvlttes to meet the diverse credit reqUirements, 13.02 hr•. attention must be paid to those sectors which have Th9 Lok Sabha th9n adJourn9d fof Lunch till special need. It needs to be borne In mind that good Fourt99n of th9 Clock. banking should not be in"consistent with SOCially eoncerned banldng. But in reality these norms are- given 14.09 hr•• • short shrift. Th. high hopes which the late Prime Minister, The Lok Sabha 'fe-assembled aftef Shrimati Indira Gandhi nursed that banks natlonalisatlon Lunch at Nine Minutes past Fou,rtgen 'of the Clock. would help percolat. economic benefits to the poor and (Mr. Deputy-Speaker In the Chait) the needy ••nt on the rocks because the banking sector could not ria. to the occasion. Why are the banks unable, , FINANCE BILt 1995 - Cootd. to achieve their social goals? This question has bee" posed rep.. tedly In the past. But the time has come to MR . .DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Now, let us continue the make a ••rIo~ reappraisal of the banking sector since discussion on Finance BUI. Shrl Bljoy Krishna Handique . • large area is proposed to b. carved out for banks' to continue his speech. " .appOrt to poverty ....1atIon programmes, To, seek an SHRI BIJOY KRISHNA HANDIQUE : Mr. Deputy- _.... ~.- to·_ questkm, SIr, It Is mp4rativ8 to *ftlfy Speaker, Sir, before lunch, J was speaking on the ,role. 173 Finance 8111, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Finance Bi/l, 1995 174 of banks. I reiterate that unless a very effective bring down costs, making Indian goods more competitive monitoring and vigorous supervision is done by the to help continue the boom in exports. I am however hon. Finance Minister, the massive poverty alleviation convinced that slashing of excise and import duties, as p(ogramme that he proposes, I am afraid, will fall apart. proposed in the Budget, is bound to invigorate industrial While on the subject of Banking, I would like to growth and employment opportunities. The cost of refer to the proposal for creation of a new bank, North- production which is expected to go down, will make the products less costly and part of the benefits will percolate Eastern Development Bank with a view to accelerating mo~ industrial development in the backward region. It is down to the people. This is one of the effective methods of curbing infl~tion. sought to finance creation, expansion and modernisation of industrial enterprises and infrastructural projects in . Thus, the 1995-96 Budge~ proposals, though the region. This is, no doubt, a thoughtful and laudable presented against the backdrop of an economy troubled proposal. But here too, unless the hon. Finance Minister by double-digit inflation, the macro economic indications takes interest in the project, it will lose itself in the are positive on most fronts with industrial output at B general poor performance of the social aspect of the per cent, exports rising by 17' per cent and a bulging Banking sector. And since the hon. Minister belongs to foreign exchange reserve. the North-Eastern State, it is not an exact demand from I once more support the Finance Bill as presented the region to ask for his personal interest and by the hon. Finance Minister. intervention. Sir, while dealing with the problem of urban poverty. [Translation] Government should explore ways to provide more SHRI KALKA DAS (Karolbagh) : A number of hon. assured fund, not just depending on investment of members of the Congress Party have spoken but no individuals and corporate sectors in the National Poverty one from BJP has been given the opportunity yet. You Eradication Fund, as proposed in the Finance Bill, thus, promised that you would start with the BJP member leaving the problem to fend for itself under a haze of after the lunch break on monday. uncertainty. However, we must not lose sight of some basic factors while discussing the problem of urban {English] poverty. One of the reasons of growing apace of urbllJ1 MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: What happened today is poverty is the fast drift of rural population to the urban that probably nobody expected that it would commence areas in search of jobs. Unless, these rural poor are prior to the lunch break. It started before the luch break. provided with jobs in the rural areas, the exodus to At that time you were graciously absent! towns and cities will continue swelling the number of SHRI KALKA DAS : We should have been given a urban poor and the number of slum dwellers. In order chance even if it started before the lunch break. to contain this population influx, industries which generate sizable employment opportunities need to shift MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It started before the lunch to rural areas from congested cities. Since the bulk of break today. Okay, that is all. the urban poor comes from the rural areas; the proposal PROF. RITA VERMA: Hon. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, at to improve the lot of the rural poor by taking jobs to the very outset I wish to remind this august House of a them is long overdue and merits serious thinking. So, quote from the ~peech given by our honourable Prime merely tackling the problem of urban poverty in isolation Minister, Shri Narasimha Rao at the Copenhagen will not resolve the issue. Summit. I refer to it : Before I conclude, I must admit that the Finance "For the past three and a half years we have Minister's dictum that better tax compliance, rather than embarked on a truly revolutionary reform of higher taxation, is the guarantee for better collection of our economic and industrial policy. The revenues, has once more proved true. There is !In process is irreversible with !l national Impressive increase in the revenue receipt from Rs. consensus backing it. At the same time those 88,770 crore in 1994-95 for the Centre to Rs. 1,00,787 sections of the people who cannot in the crore In 1995-96 - an increase of 40 per cent. The very nature of things reap the benefit or the Budget strategy of the Finance Minister is if you policy reform directly and in the short run, rationalise tax structure, industry grows faster and the would certainly need a helpful, caring and . rate of growth of the economy goes up. It is a fiscally enabling dispensation • prudent Budget assuming that the deficit de.clines to the repeat the words 'helpful, caring and enabling promised level of 55 per. cent. But at the same time It dISpensation' . should alao be borne In mind that too much emphasis on deficit reduction can harm developmental activities. .... so as to attain the levels of eligibility and Yet I must admit that a lower deficit should drive Inflation capacity to find entry Into the new, system on down to single digit, helped strongly by lower excise equal terms. This would mean a massive and Import dutlea, Lower duties In turn are expected to and well coordinated programme, backed 175 Finance Bill. 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill. 1995 176 with commensurate resources and other were exclusively reserved for the small scale sector. By efforts, to lift the huge base of the pyramid to enhancing the items in the OGL to 75, several products those levels within a reasonable time frame." that have been reserved for the small scale sector have been opened for global entrants. All this sounds perfect. But in actual practice, the Govemment seems to be pursuing policies that ensure A case in point is the thermometer industry. that the base of the pyramid, the millions that toil and Thermometer was one of the items of a total of 807 suffer in silence, the men and women who had the items reserved for small scale and tiny industrial units. misfortune of repoising faith in the new economic Here, the basic raw material like capillary glass tubing, policies of the Government are never allowed to rise bulb tubing and mercury are imported. To encourage above the quicksand of poverty. Sadly, in spite of the industry, the import duty on the basic raw material whatQver you do, the base of the pyramid is rapidly in the year 1'966 was 'NIL'. Today. the excise duty on expanding. raw material is 80 per cent of the C.LF. value. For the Indian manufacturers, who are paying a high import Social conscience and national pride are the two duty on raw material. the cost of production is things that seem to have been farthest from the minds compounded. On the other hand, no import duty has of those who have drafted our economic policies. Along been levied on imported thermometers, which has made with the reduction in duty, not only most of the non-tariff imported thermometers cheaper than the indigenous barriers have been eliminated, but also the institutions ones. It is not that the manufacturers of the thermometers regulating the trade have also been dismantled. These do not want to sell their products cheaper, but it is Just have exposed domestic indusries to unprecedented and that they are unable to do so on account of high import unfair challenges, particularly the challenge of dumping duty imposed on the raw matenals. Today. we are t:JcecJ of foreign goods. Domestic industry is perturbed because with the possibility of the Chinese thermometers b·, "; many of the contributory factors are neither of their dumped in the Indian market at Rs. 6/- a piece. 1 he making nor within their control. Indian thermometers are qualitatively superior and have The issue that seems to have been farthest from a lot of value added to them. It is pertinent to note here consideration of this Government is poverty alleviation. that the Indian thermometer industry is highly labour The equitable distribution of the fruits of liberalisation Intensive. Most of the labourers employed in them are has been ignored for too long. poor women. If this industry is closed down. it will The ruling party talks of liberalisation today. What employed in them are poor women. If this industry is does it mean to the common man? It means nothing. closed down, it will render approximately 10,000 women What does it mean to the Indian industry? To the Indian of the lower class unemployed. It is in the Interest of the industry. it mean an inequitable and unwarranted underprivileged and the women that this industry is competition that threatens to wipe out Its very existence allowed to survive. It should not be required to compete After enjoying long years of protection. licensing and with imported thermometers. regulatory measures, and at a time when the Indian Another case in point is the furniture industry. which industry is barely out of its infancy. we have opened the the Ministry is proposing to open up for Export Oriented floodgates to put them In competition with the Units The Department of Small Scale Industries in the international giants. What is the result? The Indian Industry Ministry is of the opinion that no big company products and the Indian brand names have to fight for should be allowed to enter the reserved sector unless their survival today. If this continues. they may even be it commits to export at least 75 per cent of the production. permanently ousted from the market The threat may not The export obligation for the EOUs is at present about be to the 100 odd Indian giants who themselves are 60 per cent of the total production; the rest can be sold multinalional corporations or are on the verge of in the domestic market. The demand for such a high becoming mulinational corporat,ons. The real threat IS export obligation by the Small Scale Industries to the rest of them. Department is likely to make a negative impact on the plans of the small scale sector. Some of the hasty. lop-s Ided measures taken In "port duty structuring may well wipe out the medium A large multinational company like Ponds. which IS and small scale industry. This will pose a major problem whooly an EOU has been allowed to enter the :0 our industrial economy and the level of employment thermometer Industry. Today in fulfilling its 25 per cent Take the case of small scale sector The small scale obligation towards domestic sales, which in number sector has emerged as a dynamiC and vibrant section accounts for the total production capacity of the entire of the economy during the 80s. At the end of the Seventh thermometer Industry. it has entered through the back- Plan. It accounted for 35 per cent of the total exports door - the terra-firma which has so far been exclusively from the country. It also provided employment te afOund reserved for the small scale sector. Opening of sectors 140 lakh people. Instead of lending support to thiS sector reserved for the small scale units to large units will in ana giving it greater growth impetus in order to increase a way finish the small industry which will not have the employment and export opportunities. the new po;" . funds to fight the might of the large units. The small . has threatened to wipe out some of the industries til<". scale industries department and the Commerce Ministry 177 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill. -1995 178 seem to be singing different tunes. It is stated that the Apart from the resin manufacturers. this would also small scale industries policy framed under the Industries have an impact on Indian manufacturers who have (Development and Regulation) Act has a statutory force recently started manufacturing basic inputs such as whiqh is sought to be bypassed by mere policy. This is epichlorohydrin and bisphenol at huge capital costs. not permissible under the laws of land today. Such a Yet another industry which has been forced to tight policy which seeks to nullify and make an empty promise of the small scale industries policy which was statutory for its survival are the gasket manufacturers. Anomaly force is bad and deserves to be set aside. in product classification has been one of the main factors which has hit the industry. apart from steep import duty Let us take the case of the agricultural exporters. reduction of finished goods. As per the component The main demand of most of these exporters was that classification done by the Government, gaskets, if the import of capital goods under the EPCG scheme be imported as a kit. attract 80 per cent impQrt duty but the permitted duty free, if need be with a better export very same gaskets. if imported in pouches, envelopes obligation. the cruelest cut has been that despite the and other similar packages, attract only 25 per cent fact that duty free import has been allowed, the agri- duty. Taking advantage of this loophole in classification. exporters who are usually small scale processors have gaskets will be improv.ed in pouches and other such been kept out of the scheme, since duty free imports pac kings at 25 per cent import duty. The problem is are allowed only for imports that exceed Rs. 20 crore. compounded by the fact that this industry also uses a Rice exporters have been completely ignored and variety of raw materials for manufacturing its range of bypassed by the Commerce Ministry despite brightening gaskets. The main concern of the industry is. however. prospects for rice exports. not steep duty reduction but the failure of the Exporters of floricultural and horticultural products Government to provide proportionate duty reduction on have also not benefited from the million of duty under raw materials. It seems that the thrust of the fiscal the EPCG scheme since their imports too are unlikely proposals is to encourage the import of finished to exceed Rs. 20 crores. Likewise. the enhanced products rather than the components which are used in benefits granted to holders of special import licence is the manufacture of products by the small scale industry expected to benefit only the large export houses. Yet or medium industry. This is bound to have adverse another major disappointment for the agricultural export effect on the indigenous units especially SSI units and sector is the total silence on the part of the Government their export potentials. on the issue of oil seeds imports. The Solvent Extractors Association and the Indian Oil and Produce Exporters It is stated that 3000 unorganised paint units face Association have specifically pleaded that oil seeds closure as duty on their intermediate product. namely, should be permitted for imports rather than edible oil. alkyd resin. has been increased. adversely affecting This would have enabled the industry to utilise its excess only SSI units. as large units manufacture their alkyds- capacity since it is today running at 60 per cent of total in-house. The steep duty reduction in the current budget installed capacity. Secondly. it would also have on paints paralysed SSI units to such an extent that permitted similar traders to enter the market since import they have no alternative but to close down. of edible oils has to be necessarily in bulk tankers and Over 700 secondary steel producing units in the this trade is therefore in the hands of a few large trading country would have to close down unless corrective companies. measures are taken by the Government on the 'ill effects It is stated that reduction in customs duty on resins of 1995-96 budget' on viability of the electric steel from 65 per cent to 40 per cent will affect synthetic resin making industry. There is urgent need to impose anti- manufactures as far as products based on imported dumping duty on prima facie basis. pending flOal inputs are concerned. For instance. polyester resins. settlement of the issue. acrylic resin, epoxy resin. its hardener and polyamide It is submitted that the case study of the various resin now attract a duty of 50 per cent as against 65 per industries hit by the reduction in import duty on fimshed cent last year. For epoxy resin. the cost of imported raw products without reduction in import duty on raw material per kg. of final product is reduced by Rs. 8.35 materials have threatened the very existence of several per kg whereas saving to the importers would be Rs. industries particularly those in the small scale sector 19.60 per kg. and the spectre of dumping looms large over the The cost of Imported raw material for polyamide horizon. It is stated that small scale sector employs 140 resin Is down by only As. 7.81 per kg. whereas the cost lakh workers and accounts for 40 per cent of our total saving available to an Importer to polyamide resin would manufacturing and 40 per cent of our exports. be Rs. 18.90 per kg. Thus. the end-users would be at Threatening the existence of the small scale sector a tar greater advantage by importing the products rather strikes at the root of the promise made by the than getting it from the domestic manufacturers. Such Government to provide employment. The closure of the anomalies In the rate of custom dUties will result in various industries would pose a very serious problem heavy Imports of synthetic resins and dumping by foreign in the form of large scale unemployment. In our anxiety manufacturer•. to become a major player in world business and trade. 179 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bill. 1995 180 we cannot ignore the fact that, as one of the world's Law, legislation and policies must have necessarily most populous country and the largest democracy, we a human conscience. must give top priority to employment. In our struggle for Only human face will also not suffice, and we in freedom from want, we cannot ignore social mobilisation. India with our sheer size of population must formulate The endeavour should be to make each individual all policies withoat losing sight of what repercussions contri9ute to the nation's productive activities. By making it would have on employment. the labou'r intensive small scale sector fight for its survival, the only sufferers are the large number of To conclude, Sir, I submit the core Issue that seems workmen employed therin. The policy, thus, while taking to have been forgotten by the Ruling party in its over· a very academic viewpoint, ignores the more realistic zealous attempt to become a global player in world socioeconornic perspective. . business is that we are a country not of the size - in term of population, of course - of Korea but we are one A natural corollary of this kind of lopsided economic policies is dumping of imported goods in the Indian of the most populous and poor States and the main market. We have heard often enough now from all issue that must be addressed is unemployment. The forums that India is being viewed today by the Government seems to have overlooked that it is duty Developed countries as a large market. If we are today bound to maximise people's participation in productive the consumers in this large market, and if the basic activities. What is required is the cohesive will to bring principle of market is that the consumer is the king, it the maximum number of people into the socio-economic is us who .should be calling the shots and not the mainstream. Mere rhetoric that the present Government foreign companies. The situation today is just the is given to indulging in, will not suffice. contrary. I repeat, the spectre of dumping looms large Hon. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I would like to end my over the horizon. In a regime of low tariff levels, speech with a fervent appeal. We belong to a country international trade can be orderly only if there are where principles of Swadeshi and Self-reliance are adequate safeguards, against dumping of goods by a intertwined in the psyche of the nation. That is our soul. country in the territory of another country. That Is the Mantra which has been taught by Lokmanya From an account made earlier of the injury and Tilak and Mahatma GandhL We have to see which damage caused and likely to be caused to the domestic wisdom really triumphs - the wisdom which we have industry, it is evident that dumping is one fall out of the learnt at the feet of these great men, or the new wisdom policy we have to deal with. How are we to deal with which we globalisation offers. May God lead us to the it when there seems to be no will to do so? There correct path. seems to be unanimity in the Ruling party only about SHRI B. RAJARAVIVARMA (Pollachi) : Mr. Deputy- .:.dismantling the tariff barriers and apparently no concern Speaker Sir, I rise to speak on the Finance Bill on over what that could lead to. behalf of AIADMK. Indian industry has been pleading for a level playing Though several suggestions from different sections field ever since the import duty structure has led to have been ignored by the hon. Finance Minister, it is a Indian products having lost their competitive edge in matter of relief that he has at least accepted a few of the market. But all its pleas seem to have fallen on deaf them .. years. The Commerce Minister, in a recent address, had observed that money. is money regardless of whether it The additional duty of excise in lieu Of sales tax is Indian money or foreign money. imposed on cotton hosiery in the current year's Budget has been withdrawn. Any way, I don't think it amounts to Sir, I beg to differ here. Indian money that comes in giving any concession since it has only restored the status the market stays here to generate greater levels of quo. The Finance Minister has announced r84:iuctlon of economic productivity. Foreign money with the much excise duty from 20 to 15 per cent on kitchenware, touted cliche of 'assured returns' goes out of our system. tableware etc., made of glass. Even In the Budget, he had . Foreign money has wings which have an inherent reduced excise duty on many goods like matches etc. But . tendency to fly to safer havens. the market trend shows that the prices of goodson which Coming back to the injury being caused to the excise duty reduction was given, have not come down. domestic Industry, the real sufferers of this Policy juggling This Is a paradoxical situation. On the one hand, the and experimenting with duty structure are largely. the. Government is Ioaing revenue due to reduction of excise workmen who will have to face retrenchment and duty and on the other hand, benefit does not reach the unemployment. In our ~eal to leap, we must not -forget consumers. Therefore, the very intention of the Gcwmment the 800 million people, the 800 million people whom is suspect. , would like the hon. Finance Minister to teU we must carry forward too. A hundred Indian companies the. House as to whether the Finance Ministry has • going globai Is a matter of pride, of course. But if in the mechanism to see that the benefit ofaxclae duty reduction process, millions are rendered unemployed, the Ruling la passed on to the consumers. I can understand that In p~rty must hang Its hand in shame. a healthy competitive market, benefit due to the reduction· 181 Finance Bi/I, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Finance Bill, 1995 182 of the excise duty is passed on to the consumers. But apportioning the excise duty and also clear all the here, the businessmen are in collusion and the customel'S', projects of Tamil Nadu like Sethusamudram project at are' cheated. So, I appeal to the Minister to clarify what an early date. he proposes to do on the matter. Sir, with these words, I conclude my speech. . The decision to include 34 more lifesaving drugs in the . list of drugs fully exempted from export duty is a [Translation] welcome move. Even some categories of medical SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS (Jaipur) : Mr. Deputy equipment are being exempted from import duty. I Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill and want appreciate the genuine concern of the Minister. But these to make few submissions before the House. We have equipment and drugs are mostly available only for the been running many schemes in the country such as rich people in urban areas. I have nothing against it. Anganwadis, Adult education but we do not have the But I request the Minister to give a little more import feedback as to how far these schemes have benefited duty concession to the hospitals and pharmacies in the people. If any survey is conducted or any discussion rural areas so that the poor people too get these is held on that we find to our dismay that the data given facilities. does not reflect the true picture. The hon. Members from the rural constituencies know it very well that the I want to say a few words about agriculture. Despite persons working as Health Guides are paid only Rs. the repeated assurances of the Government to 50f- per month. My contention is that it they have to be ammeliorate the conditions of farmers, it is a pity that kept, their salaries should be enhanced and they should farmers continue to suffer. The Centre should realise be properly trained so that they may do their duty in a that pll(nping funds for centrally sponsored schemes proper way. Anganwadis are becoming a bone of bypassil Caste man have to be nominated but in the contracts long way in benefiting them. They will cultivate their etc., this condition is not being fulfilled and it becomes land and get the benefit of reservation also. This will difficult for the beneficiary to become member. If you not lead to much trouble. make provision for five or seven members from amongst the benefiCiaries, then it may benefit them. But. still 15.00 hrs. contract system is prevalent there. You have made The rate of minimum wages has been rajsed from provision for 12¥.!% in the Bill, but in the contract. the Rs. 15 to Rs. 25/- in Orissa. Why can', you give this rate old system is prevalent. We have struggled a lot. of minimum wages? The number of agricultural labour Previously. income tax was levied. After one or two is decreasing because of the mechanised farming. Now. years period. they get the payment. but we do not know the tractors are being used. In the past. agricultural as to whether the payment is made to those to whom labourers used to get food grains in lieu of the work. In it should be paid. We say that there is no contract. If the our area. 3 1/2 kilograms of paddy were given and still contract is not there. then wherefrom payment is made this practice is going on. They are not paid in cash. as to them. There used to be 90% pilferage under the a result of which they get foodgrains as well as work earlier Orissa Government. I have written a number of also. In my view. the Government should make times for JRY but nobody bothers about it. arrangements to give them food grains in lieu of work. As regards million wells schems. an amount of Rs. Where the people want paddy they should be given 14-15 thousand is given under the JRY to the Scheduled paddy and where they want wheat they should be given Castes and Scheduled Tribes people. What is being to them as wages. In our Tribal Area, they are also paid done is that an amount for Rs. 2000/- is given and Rs. 5/- per day to meet their petty expenses. In our signatures are taken from them wherever necessary. area, another system is in practice, that if you want oil, Then they say that they have received the money. My you can get oil also. In our area people share each suggestion is that where the population of Scheduled others' work. I want to give many suggestions here but Castes and Scheduled Tribes is more. they should be the time is very short. allotted land so that they may have work. During the 15.02 hrs_ last election campaign. the people complained to me that they have no work to do. The Zamindars take work (Prof. Rita Verma in the Chair) from them but do not pay them the wages. The The Government has introduced many new Government should pay attention to it. The conditions programmes. Government has also set up NABARD. are very deplorable in the Villages. We do not know much about its functions. Many persons Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I was born in a family of are there like agents or middlemen and they get bonded labour and that is why I become very emotional. percentage. There are two-three organisations under The Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes are the Welfare Ministry which give grant after identification. not getting their due rights. You have stated that they If there is one-window facility here. the people can will be given employment under Employment Assurance really be benefited. You should make arrangements to Programme and identification will be done under that ensure that the Scheduled Castes and directly benefited. We have seen that identification of each block in our Government gives money to NABARD, and then area has been completed under Tribal sub-plan but no NABARD. gives money to the co-operative sector. There work has been done. is a lead bank in every area and this money should be given to the lead bank. NABARD does not have any [English] concrete role in the programme chalked out by you as it will not serve any purpose for the poor. Fifty per cent of this amount should be spent on irrigation whether it is drip irrigation, whether it is flow You have given money to KAJVIC through irrigation. whether it is surface irrigation or whatever NABARD bul you should have given money to it sort of irrigation it may be. directly. The National Equity Fund will also not benefit the poor. There is a wasteland scheme. If tribals and [Translation} people belonging to Scheduled Caste start work under this scheme, they are given 50% subsidy and You may kindly formulate the guidelines. An amount to the extent of Rs. 50 thousand whereas in the of Rs. 14-15 thousand is not sufficient for any work in event of the project being implemented by the the hilly areas. You will have to allot more amount for general people, the amount of subsidy is 25% and that area. the maximum limit is Rs. 25 lakh. Why this difference? The minimum wages should be enhanced i" view I want to give a suggestion. In the SC/ST of the steep rise In tne pnces. Many steps hav .. been predominant areas. where adequate land is available, taken lor land reforms in West BengaL The Central you can allol them one hectare of land and plant Government is concerned about the poor. Why do they saplings on it. Then. they can be told later on that not formulate such a programme which may prove to be the land belonged to them. This will help in capital useful for them? Increase In minimum wages Will go a formallon and thus improvement of their lot will 185 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA " 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 186 begin. Suppose the Government helps them in this SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : Let me speak. manner, it will benefit every family and result in capital formation. [English] My other suggestion is that the landless labourers This is Parliament. What is this? I am giving them s'hould be categorised as Class IV employees. Such a new suggestion. employees in Government service are at present entitled for 38 benefits. The landless, small and marginal farmers [Translation] should get at least 50 per cent of these benefits. Under SHRI KALKA DAS : Why do not you formulate such the Employment Assurance' Scheme, 50 percent a policy? allocation should be earmarked for irrigation projects. There should be some provision of benefit for the period SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : We do not formulate when they do not have any work. Legally, the prOVision policies. These are formulated by the ministers is there but unless it is implemented, these people will .... (Interruptions) Why do you interrupt me. I know about remain sitting idle for many a days. Today, every family Communists also. Every time, they get elected in the is getting benefited by education and the Government name of land reforms but in their areas, the dealership should think about the children. If they are denied their of PDS has not been g;ven to any person belonging to due, they will be forced to snatch their right. There is SC/STs. confusion prevailing in Ejvery political party. Why don't you chalk out' a programme so that the landless [English] labourers could at least get class IV status? You do not go to other areas. How many of them It Is provided that old age pension of Rs. 75/- p.m. now have become members of the Public Distribution will be given to the persons above 65 years of age. The System? I was the Chairman of the Civil Supplies rickshaw pullers, generally, die at the age 55-60 years. Committee ... (Interruptions) Likewise, the persons belonging to SC/STs live upto the age of 65 years. Today, the atmosphere is changing MR. CHAIRMAN : Please address to the Chair. fast. The ozone layer is slowly depleting. The days and [Translation] nights are very hot. Everything including air, water and food is impure. There is mosquito menace during nights. SHRI ANADJ CHARAN DAS Madam Chairman, I If things continued like this, there will be no need for will take five minutes more i want to say that whatever family planning after 4-5 years. People will start dying development has beer, made in the country. the credit themselves, and they have already started dying. My goes to the Congress party. If they have good suggestion is that the family pension for SC/STs should suggestions, they are welcome. We will not interrupt be started at the age of 50 years. them. When I am making my suggestions, why do they MR. CHAIRMAN : You have already taken 25 disturb me? minutes. Madam Chairman. huge sums to the tune oj Rs. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : I am speaking on 6646541 crores and Rs. 162185 crores have been spent behalf of the Congress Party and am making very under IRDP and JRY schemes respectively so far important suggestions. Howeve; despite that, there has not been much development in the rurai areas as these schemes are MR. CHAIRMAN: Other members are also there to not being implemented properiy. My suggestion is that speak. the Government should formulate such a scheme ,n (Interruptions) which the worker as well as the Government would SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : The suggestions being contribute equally and everyday the money would be made by me are different from those given by other deposited. When this amount reaches Rs. 100/- it should hon. Members. I want to point out that the SC/STs are be invested in some other scheme. In this manner, this not in a position to set up industry but we must devise money will go on increasing and the workers will start some ways to make them self dependent. The small getting pensions automatically. The Government will not intrepreneurs belonging to SC/STs should be exempted have to bear extra expenditure on this account and the from paying sales tax and income tax for 10 years. In deduction will also be less. Further, you will be able to this way, the people will come forward to take SC/STs give material components. At present, under IRDP, Rs. as partners and set up industries in their names. 12 thousand are given to landless labourers and out of Moreover, they would be able to earn Rs. 2 to Rs. 3 this, 50 percent "is given as subsidy. Again out ot Rs. thousands In this way. Presently, they are not getting 6000/- Rs. 3000/- are pocketed by the middle-men. I any such benefit. That Is why, I am giving this suggestion. want to suggest that they sholJid be given a bond of Rs. SHRI KALKA DAS : Why have you not formulated 4000/- with 12 per cent norm;), mlerest on it Further. 8 any auch aales tax, Income tax exemptiQJ1 policy for SCI percent interest on subsidy should be given Thus. Ihe STs during the last 47 years, to make them seU- total percentage of Interest comes out to 20 pel cent. dependent? After 17 years. this amount Will become Rs. , lakh and 187 Finance Bill. 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 188 this way, you can give a monthly pension of Rs. 15001 Our hon. Prime Minister had announced in this - to each family. There is a saying : House that he had adopted the North-Eastern States. "Vanijya Baste Laxmi Tadarth Krishi Karmani But after that announcement, what development Tadardh Rajaya Karmani, Bhiksha Naiva Cha programmes have been drawn and taken up as a follow Naiva Cha." up action to that announcement? We have heard only about the establishment of a Development Bank tor that The Government has introduced the old age region. Is that sufficient? They should enumerate what pension scheme under the National Social Assistance programmes have been drawn and taken up for the scheme from the age of 65 years. My submission is that benefit of the North-Eastern States after their adoption the old age pension for SC/STs and rickshawpuilers was committed by the hon. Prime Minister. shouk;l be from the age of. 50 years as their average age is comparatively less than others. In addition to As regards rural development, last year's this, the provision of Rs. 5 thousand is also a good one. programmes have been repeated again. The amount has been slightly increased but the implementing MR. CHAIRMAN: You can write a letter to the hon.' agencies remain the same. So, what is the use of it? Minister and he will definitely consider your suggestion. Ever since the announcement made by the Prime Now please conclude, otherwise nothing will go on Minister about the adoption of the region, no new record. programmes have been taken up. If the hon. Finane SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : I wanted to speak on Minister has had the time to visit that area, he might some more points but due to shortage of time, I support have visited only Guwahati or some other places in the Finance Bill, and conclude my speech. Assam and not aU parts of the North-Eastern region. If he goes to other places, he will find that the people [English] there are suffering because of unemployment and other problems. At the moment, in that part of the country, SHRI YAIMA SIN~H YUMNAM (Inner Manipur) Madam, Chairperson, I cannot support this Finance Bill particularly in Manipur, there is no drinking water or because it provides facilities for making the rich richer power, no rural electrification scheme is taken up and the poor poorer. It is really the old wine put in a properly because of the shortage of power, and so on. new bottle. it is with great conviction I am telling that in As regards the transportation facilities they are also respect of aU the North-Eastern regions of the country, not maintained properly. The roadways are in a bad particularly the State of Manipur, it is very much the old shape. Very recently Imphal was cut off from Guwahati. wine. It is only repetition of the last year. There is no There are so many regional establishments like the new. proposal in the Bill. Regional Development Bank, Regional Sports Centre So, I rise to oppose this Finance Bill. etc. which are aU located at Guwahati and Shillong. People from Imphal, who have to go there, have to go If this Bill is passed, it will facilitate only the foreign to Calcutta first and then from Calcutta to Guwahati. investors at the cost of our domestic investment. In the Likewise if people from Guwahati want to go to Imphal, name of the New Economic Policy, the Government is they have to go to Calcutta first and then to Imphal. It fostering only the foreign investors and depriving the costs a lot of money and at the same time lot of labour, domestic investors of their rightful benefit. So, I would energy and time are lost. This is the state of affairs. suggest that "there should be change in the criteria for the distribution of public funds for development If the hon. Prime Minister or any Minister visits that programmes to be taken up for the welfare of the country. area they will find how bad is the condition of the airstrips at Silchar, Dimapur and Imphal. That part of the At the moment, there is no proposal for funding country is almost totally neglected. If they have not more money to make up the deficit of the backward proposed any development for that part, how can I areas and for providing more programmes to be taken support this Bill? up for the welfare of the North-Eastern region. No doubt, there might have been more concessions given I am now coming particularly to the affairs regarding this year by way of increase in the income-tax exemption the State of Manipur which are, at the moment, in a limit or by way of exemptions in duties or some other very bad shape, be it law and order situation or concessions in respect of collection of taxes, but all development programmes or any other thing. In all these give no benefit to the North-Eastern part of the respects the people have been suttering. Nobody cares country. Even in respect of distributions of funds, people for that area. The Prime Minister did not visit that area residing in the North-Eastern region are not benefited even though there had been so many killings and there by the new proposals. So, there is always regional were incidents of burning of houses and terrorist imbalance in the country because of the North-Eastern activities whereas If such incidents take place elsewhere region being put to a very backward position and no the Hom Minister or the Prlme Minister WIU rush to that programme being taken up to overcome these area. Is Ii not negligence of the North-East area bY the deficiencies. present Government? That is my question to them. 189 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 19!J 5 190 Madam, I will not take much time. I want to mention As I have already stated that the budget of a goo·c about unemployment problem. It is so great now that Government reflects its concern for the poor people 0: there are more than three lakh educated unemployed the country. The good budget contains the proposals for people there. They are frustrated because their number' maximum realisation of taxes from the rich and providing Is multiplying day by day. It is increasing by hundreds maximum assistance to the poor so as to bridge the and thousands. Now it will increase and this figure will gap between the rich and the poor. I do not mean to say become five lakh. In the meantime the Government has that the gap betwen the rich and the poor can be banned all recruitments because Government has no removed fully. All the budgets of this Government funds for giving employment even though there is a presented so far have widened the gap between the necessity for providing employment to take the execution rich and the poor. The present budget also reflects the of the works regarding development programmes. same trend. Although new hands are required to be recruited, the We had high hopes from the Finance Bill. We were Government is banning recruitment as there are no hoping that keeping in view the adverse comments on funds. The employment has been totally banned for the the budget, the hon. Finance Minister will do something last three years and unemployment is there now. The for the benefit of the poor, reduce duties and impose schools are run without teachers and so many taxes in such a way that the poor are not burdened. establishments are functioning without proper However, the things are just contrary to expectations. manpower. This is the state of affairs there. In the context Duties hav been reduced on some items like presssure of this state of ~ffairs, the people are frustrated and they cookers, T.V. picture tubes and on other important items are even asking for secession from this country. but most of these'items are not used by the poor. The Lastly, I would request the Government to consider position today is that even the common drugs are not these things and change and amend their attitude so available to the poor in the rural areas. However. I that the goodwill of the people of North-East is with congrature the hon. Minister for reducing duties on some them. items, but he has not paid any attention to those pOC" people, whom he exhorts to save his chair. Thes,c Until the present Government changes its attitude people are allured in one way or the other but tb or amends its attitude towards that region, towards the budget and the Finacne Bill has not provided any reile' people of that region, they will not get any support from to them. that region. Madam Chairman, the Finance Bill 1994-95 speaks With these few words, I oppose the Bill. about the allocations, mobilisation of funds, taxation and deficit financing, but it does not indicate anything [Trans/ation] about the relief for the poor. The rich are becoming SHRI KALKA DAS : Madam Chairman, the Budget richer and the poor are becoming the poorer. The rich and the Finance Bill reflects the thinking and direction are being given all sorts of reliefs. When the budget of the Government. It is indicative of the policies of the was presented, some relief was provided on cosmetic Government about the welfare of the poor and the rich. items. I do not oppose it. However, some women. The hon. Finance Minister has presented the budget including the wife of the Finance Minister, met him and earlier but it could not be taken up for discussion due told him that relief on cosmetiC items was a welcome to certain reasons. Today, we are discussing it by way step but the prices of the items used in the kitchen have of Fina'nce Bill. not been reduced. Use of talcum powder and lipstick no answer to hunger. There is no relief on agricultul.'; If we go through the budget and the Finance Bill, items and the eatables the prices of these items have we find them disappointing. The budget does not increased considerably in the recent past. Earlier pOOl generate any hope among the poor, depressed classes, people used to eat pulses but now their prices have sky farmers, minorities and women of the country. The hon. rocketed. Pulses are available at Rs. 30/- per kilogram. Minister of Finance, through the jugglery of statistics, has tried to sugar coat the bitter pili. The economists of Madam Chairman, the hon. Minister of Finance the country have. commented in many ways on the himself admits that the rate of inflation has gone upto budget Immediately after Its presentation. The critical 11 per cent. The value of rupees is going down. We comments on the budget have also appeared in the thought that since the hon. Finance Minister has got a newspapers. If you permit me I would like to quote period of 2 to 2l'2 months for bringing this Finance Bill. those comments. he wHi definitely give relief to the small scale industries But to our utter dismay, no relief has been given to MR. CHAIRMAN : You may please put your own them. The Members of our Party were hoping for some views. kind of relief to the salaried class but he has raised th" SHRI KALKA DAS : While honouring your direction exemption limit from 35 thousand to Rs. 40 thousand and keeping in view the paucity of time, I will not go only, It may be mentioned that Chelliah Committee had Into the details of these comments. However, as per the recommended raiSing this exemption limit to Rs. 6() comments, the pre.ent budget is a disappointing budget. thousand. I would say that the salaried class is honest 191 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill. 1995 192 class. Every details of their salaries. are in the mislead the people In the name of Mahatma GandhI. In Government records and that is why you are able to fact, they have stabbed Gandhlji in his back. Had the realise income tax from them. On the other hand rich Goilernment followed his principles. This situation would people do not pay any tax and swallow crores of have not cropped up ... (/nterruptions) We taken his name rupees by corrupt means. Persons like Harshad Mehta, with utmost respect...(Interruptions) You are supporting who Indulge in bungling of crores and crores of rupees, a Government which abuses Mahatma Gandhi. get every type of reliefs and concessions, whic'h makes MR. CHAIRMAN : Mr. Kalka Das, please address them mOtionaire. Today, the peon, clerk and the Assistants the Chair. . have to pay Income tax. In this country, honesty does not pay, whereas dishonest persons are earning crores SHRI KALKA DAS : I am saying that we venerate of rupees through corrupt means. Mahatma' and follow his ideals but they are supporting a Government which abuses Mahatma Gandhi. They We have a number of scandals which are quoted should withdraw their support. all over the world. The scams Uke Secu.rities Scam and sugar scandal were big scams. The poor people have Madam. Chairman, I was submitting that non understood where the money is going, In the unemployment and poverty are increasing in the country. Finance Bill there Is nothing to help the poor and save It has been stated that 2 crore youth are unemployed them from those elements who are bent upon looting in the country but this is not correct. According to our this country. estimate, there are more than 7 crore educated and uneducated unemployed youth. There is no provision Madam Chairman, I agree with the suggestions of for creating employment opportunities for them. 'Nobody Shri Anadi Charan Das. I opposed him on his plea that is bothered about them. The people are befooled by since he was speaking on beneH of the congress party, raising the slogan of removing poverty. People think he should get more time. that they would get some benefit if the poverty is MR. SPEAKER : You !T1ay put your own views. removed? However, they did get neither the means of livelihood, nor equality nor respect. The Government SHRI KALKA DAS : I am putting my views. I agree have done nothing to find solutions to their problems. with his suggestion but I also said that Congress has no right to give suggestions. The Congress Party is in Madam Chairman, I want to submit that unless power and its duty is to implement the suggestions Government take measures for proper allocation of the because it is in a position to do so, However, the funds, the poor will continue to become poorer and the Government misleads the people by speaking in rich, on the strength of their money, will keep on looting Parliament about their weHare. The, position today is the Government funds, destroy the culture and prestige that poverty is contint,lously increasing. of the country, The Government has not done anything to ensure employment opportunities for the unemployed Madam Chairman, more than 40 percent population youth and social justice for the poor.. Is living below poverty line in the country. Even 47 years after Independence they do not get c:me meal a Have we achieved equality. among cltisens after . day. India was once known as a golden bird but today independence? Mahatma Gandhi had given an most of its population Is poor. A lot of money has been assurance to Dr. Ambedkar that equality would be spent on education but only 29 per cent women are achieved within 10 years and there would be no educated. There are total 48.1 per cent illiterates in the inequality thereafter. But hatered and inequality have country. Half a century has lapsed. How much more been increasing, among the people. A number of time Is needed for the eradication of poverty? legislations have been enacted In this regard but they remain unimplemented. The Government is aware of Once upon a time, India used to be considered a the problems of the poor but It.~ intention Is not clear in centre of learning and its civilization was a source of .respet of making ,them As. 40/- a year is paid to the students of fifth class. SHAI KALKA DAS : I want to submit, through you, Gone are the days when people used to follow you that this budget is a fraud and the poor are now seeing blindly. Now, they have seen through your game. The through the game of the Government. If the Government rec~nt elections are indicative of it. This is just a think that poor people have not awakened, it is their beginning. Congress Party has been thrown out of illusion. The purchasing power of rupee has gone down power in GUjarat and Maharashtra. In many states, you drastically. The elders now recollect that earlier they are not even in the opposition. You are on number three used to earn As. 10 and now earn Rs. 15 but they are in Karnataka and Bihar. People have now become not able to purchas that much of items in Rs. 151- which conscious and you should also do some introspection. they used to purchase for Rs. 10/-. You still have time to think about the economy of the The honest salaried class should be given some' country. On the basis of a good economy. the relief as they cannot conceal their income. Til\:! Government can help the poor people and raise their, Chellaiah Committee recommended tax exemption upto\ standard of living. If the intention of the Government is an income of Rs. 60 thousand and all the political bona-fide, it can still do something, even after 47 years parties have required to extend the exemption limit at of India's independence. By manipulating the data, you least upto Rs. 50 thousand. However, the Government have been misleading the people. Some sycophants did not bridge. The time is not far away when they will may have termed this budget of Dr. Manmohan Singh owe that they did not care for the timely advice of the as very good but the renowned economists of the Members. So, I want to make a submission to country have commented adversely on it. The, budget Government that this budget is anti-poor and it need reflects the thinking of the Government. reconsideration. Further, this budget will not generate My humble submission is that this budget needs employment opportunities for the unemployed youth reconsideration in order to put our economy on sound since it is anti-small scale industries. Above all, it is footing. The present economic policy is anti-poor, anti- against the principles of Mahatma Gandhi. villagers, anti-youths, anti-farmers, anti-downtrodden and It is very unfortunate that even after 47 years of anti-minorities. In favours the rich which run the India's Independence, 48 per cent people are illiterate Government but it is against those very people who here. We will have to formulate our policies in such a have voted' them to power. That is why these people way so as to ensure education and social justice to all. have started alienating from this Government. I am sorry to ,say that this Government is leading in My submission is that there is a need to change corruption. There have been many scandals so far in this economic policy so as to provide employment which Parliamentary Committees were set up to probe opportunities to the unemployed youth, means of scams. These Committees pointed out corruption in their livelihood to the poor and respect to every citizen on reports but no attention was paid on the Action Taken the ground of humanity. Today 70 per cent of our people Reports. They are under the impression that since they are living in villages. Government must help them. Our are in power none can cause harm to them. But, I would hon. Speaker had sought the opinion of all of us on the like to remind them that they will have to go again agricultural labourers. It is a fact that our farmers took before the people. Therefore, the Government should. the challenge and achieved the target of agricultural formulate an Anti-Corruption policy which may totally production so much so that today we do not have resort eliminate corruption'- Unless there is corruption, the to more import of foodgrains. It is regretting that they people will not be able to get the benefits of some of are also not getting justice. The Government must pay your policies already under implementation. attention to the lot of the agriculture labourers also. When it was demanded here to give them minimum I again request our hon. Finance Minister, to extend wages, the Government did not provide them jobs. Today, tax exemption limit for the salaried class. The CheRaiah the youth of the nation is facing starvation due to non- Committee recommendation for increasing this limit upto availability of employment opporiunities ... (lnteffuptions) Rs. 60 thousand should accepted. There Is a need to formulate such policies which could With these words, I thank you for giving me time provide employment to the youth of the country. {Translation] It Is a matter of great shame that even after 47 years of India's Independence, childret:' born in the ·SHRI R. JEEVAflATHINAM (Arakkonam) : Hon'b!(' Jhuggie-Jhooparles die In the lap of their mothers in Chairman, I welcome the Budget proposals and the the absence of adequate treatment and availability of Finacne Bill for the year 1995·96 and I extend my medicines. I have visited certain countries and found support to several social and rural development that countries which became free much later than Indla- measures like housing scheme for the poor. You have particularly Malaysia which won freedom after 12 announced that you are going to construct ten lakhs years ... (Interruptions) houses this year. But I would like to ask you a pertinent question as to how you Intend to Implem4nt these MR. CHAIRMAN : Mr. Kalka Das, you have already apoken for 22 minutes. • ltanslatlon of the speech originally delivered in TIIIIIiI. 195 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 196 schemes intended to benefit the rural poor and other this august House, I would like to request the Finance needy sections of the society, I would rather suggest Minister to ensure this kind of supervisory mechanism to the Finance Minister to constitute Committees headed which was there in Tamil Nadu earlier. Such of the by the District Collectors and the Committees must schemes that were recommended by such Committees ir,clude MPs and MLAs of a particular locality, I would were implemented then. like to impress upon you that such developmental schemes should be effectively monitored as they are As far as sick industrial units are concerned, I now implemented, Hence it is necessary to rope in the find that there is no use pumping in funds any further. representatives of the- people namely the Members of The thrust of industrial growth lie in utilising Parliament and MLAs. They should also be included in sophisticated machines and modern technology. Large such Committees that would implement various rural amount of money is already blocked. Hence it would be development schemes, If the people's representatives better you go in for selling off these unvlable sick units. are not roped in who would be there then to supervise They may be auction'ed and the money can be retrieved. the implementation of schemes like the construction Rejuvenating and revitalising sick .units could not be . and distribution of 10 lakh houses for the poor and the carried out beyond a point. If we could sell off these- needy. Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe people sick units we could gather funds which might obviate are there and poor among the other sections of the the need to go in for foreign loans and getting into a society are also there. They also ask for such housing debt trap. Nearly about one lakh crores of rupees has schems to benefit them. Likewise, we have thousands been blocked in these sick units. And I am of the view of freedom fighters and their families living in poverty that there is no need to provide more and more of fund In several villages. In my Constituency, good number of to these unviable sick units. There are units which are them are there and many of them are very poor. I wish lying closed for more than five years, some of them the Government come forward to include them also in eight years and ten years. Such units should be the list of beneficiaries under this scheme. They should immediately disposed off. That would help improving also be provided with houses. So, I request the our financial position for the better. Government through you to formulate Committees Hon. the Finance Minister increased the Income headed by District Collectors to consider favourably Tax ceiling limit upto Rs. 40,000/-. But I would like to such valid requests. You may even allocate certain per request the Finance Minister to increase it further upto centage of these houses to the dependents and heirs Rs. 48,000/-. Almost all the Members who spoke in this of the freedom fighters. I wish to stress upon the effective House on the General Budget and then Finance Bill implementation of several social measures envisaged have unfailingly been referring to this aspect. Hence I in this year's Budget by way of including MPs and MLAs request the Finance Minister to still consider raising in various Committees that will have the function of further the Income Tax limit. mo~itoring the scheme implementation at various stages. As far as Tamil Nadu is concerned, MPs are There are several incentives provided to those never consulted or included in any of the Committees who go in for Small Savings, National Savings that will go in to the realisation of these goals in Certificates and other savings schemes. Income Tax implementing various rural development schemes. This rebate is available to them. That too has a limit. That is happening not only in my part of the country but in may be increased to Rs. 25,000/-. several States. Only the MPs pass the Union Budget in Sales Tax on goods and commodities vary from the Parliament. So, it is quite logical to include MPs to State to State. The ST rates should be restructured and supervise the implementation of these poverty alleviation it would be better they are done away with because programmes. such taxation gives rise to price rise. Instead excise duty can be levied and distributed among the States. 15.59 Ius. The Government may..kindly consider the feasibility of (Shri Tara Singh in the Chair) this suggestion. They would be able to give a proper feed back to In this connection I would like to add that the the Union Government and the Parliament. It is reductions announced in the levY of excise duties have untortunate that at present MPs are not given this not yielded desired results especially to the consumers. prerogative. The Union Government should send a The case in point here is that of Premier Automobiles. directive to all the State Governments in this regard to When automobile industry is given excise duty relief include MPs also in various Committees that will go in with the sole aim to increase their marketability and to these programme. When late MGR was there, he production, it has not been passed on to the buyer. gave due importance to the Members of Parliament. Instead the prices have Increased. Middle Class people Alongwith the Panchayat union and Panchayat council- would not get any benefit out of these central excise Members, MPs and MlAs were also included in such relief meastlfeS. Before announcing any reduction In Commilt_s that would consider and implement various any central excise duty, the Government must ensure schemes carried out with the Central fundb. Through that the prices of goods and prducts are not Increased. 197 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 198 I may request the Union Finance Minister to invite the tribute to them. It is only through them that we won our manufacturers especially from the automobile industry freedom. Before I could speak, an ·Hon. Member from and ensure that the prices are brought down. BJP spoke on this Bill. I was happy to note that he was referring to Mahatma Gandhi that we got our Freedom. , Cement price has increased now. They say that He was finally shot dead by a fanatic. But still he lives. they were levied Rs. 20 per tonne as Central Excise His descendents and followers are here. Those who duty. But in the market, the cement price has been have participated in the freedom struggle alongwlth him increased by about Rs. 20 per bag. There is something are here. The number of Freedom Fighters presently wrong somewhere. The Minister claims one thing but living amidst us is not very big. I find many of them the Cement Industry says something else. The Finance suffering. Their poor families are suffering a lot today. Minister may kindly take up this with the Cement Industry Hence I request the Finance Minister to increase this and may take efforts to bring down the prics to Its pension from Rs. 1500 to Rs. 2000/-. earlier level. The prices of Rice vary from State to State. This The Fertilizers subsidy which has been increased gives rise to an anomolous situation. People are greatly to Rs. 5800 crores from Rs. 5000 crores should be disappointed. States that sell rice at a lesser price should increased further upto Rs. 7000 crores. The Finance be given union assistance and grant. You may Minister may favourably consider this request made on categorically announce whether it is possible or not. behalf of the agriculturists. Villages are the ba.::kbone of The rice is sold at different rates in different States like the country. Agriculture is our main stay. Hence we Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. While need to shoulder the burden of our farmers. Andhra rice comes to Tamil Nadu, rice from Tamil Nadu In Tamil Nadu, Rs. 3.50 is charged per unit of is moved or smuggled to Kerala where it Is dearer. If electricity. Those who run Hotels, lodges and commercial there is a price fixation policy and uniform price for all establishments are the most hit. The Union Government varieties of rice like fine quality and coarse quality, the may kindly take up this with the Government of Tamil price fluctuation may not be there. It may not lead to Nadu. I request the Finance Minister to take right steps confusion and anomoly. Otherwise Union Government in this direction to brig down the electricity charges. must categorically announce whether they could give or not a subsidy to the States who sell rice at a lower Insurance sector has the money flow that comes price. from the public. The Malhotra Committee Report on Insurance Sector Reforms is still under consideration As regards to prohibition, Union Government should with the Union Finance Ministry. The service to the client evolve a policy. During elections some political parties public should be satisfactory. There are inordinate delays promise total prohibition. But after elections, they throw in clearing Insurance claims and compensations. Such the blame on the Centre as it is not providing funds lacunae should be wiped out. Apart from that I would enough to tide over the financial loss that may accrue like to suggest setting up a separate Recruitment Board due to the total prohibition. Or else they resort to levying taxes that add up to the burden of the common people. for the Insurance Sector. 'Insurance Companies are organising several public functions. Nationalised Hence I request the Union Government to state categorically its stand on prohibition and its avowed Insurance Companies should be directed to invite local policy in this regard. Such of the States should be MPs also while. organising such functions, meant for adequately compensated.; Inter-action with the public. The Nationalised Banks have recently restructured Nationalised Banks are providing loans to various the interest rates. Housing loans should be given at a Industrial units. MPs should be included in such of the lesser rate of interest. I am not quite satisfied with the Committees that would consider the loan applications functioning of the Housing Development Banks. They to grant loans. Respective local MPs should be included do not have their Branches in many of the towns. Such In the Committees of the Industrial Development wings of functions towards housing loans should be entrusted of the Nationa:llsed Banks. with all other Scheduled Banks. They will be on the The freedom fighters' penSion should be Increased reach out to the people through out the country with ·by Rs. 500/- their vast network. Such a measure can be carried out The present Central Pension of Rs. 1500 should be with effective supervision and monitoring mechanism. enhanced to Rs. 20001-. The dependents and family The existance of exclusive Housing Development Banks membars of such freedom fighters should be given some are not known to many. They extend loans only to the kind of reservation or priority In getting employmenl- affluent people in the society. You may wind up those opportunities in Banks and other public sector units. banks and hand over their role and responsibility to the Hon. the Finance' Minister many consider a '5% Scheduled Banks. reservation In' jobs in these institutions to benefit the It is needless to emphasize the Importance of descendents, of the Freedom Fighters. Whatever we may Tourism in our country: It needs to be encouraged. do to the Freedom Fighters, It would only be a befitting Individuals and private parties who come forward to 199 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 200 ·construct hotels and lodging houses should be Government. Who else other than an MP cOlild give a encouraged as they would promote both inland and feed back to the Centre about the activities that are foreigners' tourism travels. They should be given 25% going on in the Banking sector in a particularity locality. subsidy and liberal loan facilities from the nationalised Several Nationalised' Banks including State Bank Banks. I request the Finance Minister to consider thIs of India have taken on. rent several buildings in many favourably which would help promoting tourism that towns. They do not treat properly the landlords or the could earn foreign exchange for the country. This subsidy building owners. Say for instance if a land owner sends was earlier available. The 25% subsidy was taken away a letter stating that five year contract period had come when Shri Vengal Rao was OlIr Industries Minister. The to an end and the rent could be increased' further, the Government cannot build up the infrastructure required Banks do not even acknowledge the letter. There should to promote tourism. We do not have resources. But at be fair play. In this regard there are several cases the same time, the private sector can be helped with pending in many places. It has come to my knowledge incentives to go in for constructing hotels and lodges. that in a particular case, the Court itself directed the The pension for the aged is a welcome scheme. I State Bank of India to vacate the premises of a building request you to lower the age limit to 60 years of age. owner. This blow to an organ of the Government came MPs should also be allowed to recommend people about because of default in paying rent. Instead of who will come under the scheme. entering into five years contract, Banks themselves should increase the rent aUeast once in four years The customs duty on life saving drugs has been according to the prevailing market rent In those towns. reduced to 20%. I welcome this gesture. At the same The Banks must be fair to those who provide them the time you must ensure that the prices are brought down premises to operate. I would like to point out that the accordingly to benefit the common man. The Government Ministry of Communication has decided to increase the may constitute a Committee to keep a watch on the rent payable by them every third year. They have rented price movement. Officials should be entrusted with this several buildings for Post Offices and' other offices respo ns ibility. throughout the ountry. I wish State Bank of India emulate The Regional Office of the State Bank of India this. functioning now in Madras should be 'shifted to Vellore. NoW I would like to put on record the great service People from Thiruvannamalai District, Shabuvarayar rendered by our Finance Minister. Now we feel proud District, Rall)asamy Padayachiyar District, Union territory and walk tall in the comity of Nations. He has able of Pondicherry will be greatly benefitted due to .this. . colleagues to co-ordinate efficiently the functioning of Otherwise they may have to travel every tir:ne to Mac;lras the Ministry of Finance. Because of the proud place he to meet top officials. You may alleviate this problem has carved out for us in the international arena, we are faced by the public from these places. welcomed everywhere. We could attain self-sufficiency I have always been insisting that all the nationalised through the present leadership which is ably assisted Banks should be totally computerised. They may then by Dr. Manmohan Singh and thereby we could fulfil the be centralised and effective check and balance could dreams of Mahatma Gandhi to attend to the needs of all be there then. Strikes and dharnas in Banks would the people unto this last. affect the Banking system. Hence the Government and Requesting this august House and the Hon. the authotities should come forward to redress the Members to co-operate with our Finance Minister in all grievances of Bankmen even before they could serve his endeavours, let me conclude my speech once again notice to the management that they would go on strike. reiterating my support to this Finance Bill. The demands of the Bankmen should be considered as and when they come up. This would ensure public faith SHRI AMAL DAnA (Diamond Harbour) : Sir, I thank in the Banking system. Nationalised Banks are you very much for calling me to speak. This is the most constructing their own buildings in many places to opportune time for me to speak because the House has house their Branch offices. Recently one such building no quorum! I am not calling quorum just now because was constructed by a nationalised Bank in Wallajah I will have to go out; and otherwise, we may have to town which come under .may Arakkonam Parliamentary ,wait for another two hours. I find that the Press Gallery constitutency. From Rs. 60 lakhs to more than' a crore is all empty! I am not sure that after I start speaking, the has been spent on such buildings. Not even an year is Television would nQt be turned off because last time over now. But several cracks, leakages are found in the when I spoke on the Defence Budget, It was turned of, building. Even the local MP was not invited to' attend for whatever reasons. I do not know, I might have been the inauguration of that building. Such buildings giving seCrets to all the public! For another reason also, constructed with such attitude are not constructed It Is a very opportune time to speak because a few days properly. These damages would cause huge losses to ago, the death-knell of the Congress party has been the Bank. I request the Minister to take note of this. If sounded! when MPs are kept informed they could keep watch on Therefore, the Bill which we are presently discussIng the development. This money belongs to the Central and which is the policy and the handiwork of the Ruling 201 Finance 8ill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) FifllllllC. sm, 1995 202 Party Is for all practical purposes already dead, before about it the other day aiso. But Sir, what has been it is passed! So, whatever we may pass, it will be a happening to the method, to the mechanism by which dead Bill or a dead Act. It will have no effect watsOever prjvate capitalists are supposed to raise their money? in the ultimate recknoing in the polls becases the Party That mechanism is the stock exchange. Within one year \ will no longer exist by that time. However since we of this Government coming Into existence, there was a have an assigned task, we have to go on even with the big scam. It took another one-and-a-half to unravel that post-mortem of the dead Bill. scam. What had happened? It .... discovered that the financial Institutions of the Govemment, including the . . Sir, a few days ago when the Financial Bill was yet Central Banks have an been reaponalble In on. way or to come up for discussion and the meeting of the 19th the other by negligence' or direct Involvement In the was yet to be held in Talkatora Stadium, I purchased conspiracy, Whatever it Is, they have aU been· InYolved two financial magazines which are glosssy magazines in this. Nothing has happened to anyone of them. Even which everybody knows. One is called The Business after the scam was discovered, we found.that the ahare . India' and the other is 'The Business World'. After I . prices soared sky-high in those days, I think, In April, started reading and looking into the top cover, I 1992. EV8Q after that scam, some capital came from somehow felt a little uneasy since something was somewhere. We Were told that financial lnetttutjons missing here or something was wrong. Then I started following institutional Investors. started coming. They thinking of what was wrong. Then it occured to me that found India a very attractive place and in fact, share four years ago when this Government first came and prices again went up. We were told that the UTI also when Budget was being discussed and when the did its bit. The UTI is a very very large concern. I am Finance Bill was about to be discussed, these glossy toid that its annual turnover is something like Rs.eo,ooo magazines would usually be full of pltures of our crore . .. (Interruptions) ... Then, what happened was that Illustrious Finance Minister, Mr. Mammohan Singh. He thjs Institution also seemed to have failed. First of all, had an extremely photogenic face in those days. He the scam has shown the inside of the financial used to stare at everybody who were looking at such instit.utlons - how they operated the whole mechanism magazines. These glossy financial magazines used to such callously and negligently, when they had been have his pictures on front cover. Now, what is there entrusted with other people's money. Thousands of instead is a graph showing that the things are going crores of rupees have been lost. I am told that the flQure down. This the change in the perception of the very is Rs. 3000 crore to Rs. 10,000 crare. It Is anybody's people for whom all these changes have been brought guess as to how much it is. A lot of people lost their . about over the last 40 years. This is the perception now. money. A lot of people, who went to the market seeing The other magazine has the picture of the Governor of that there was a profit to be had within a short time, the Reserve Bank of India with a big caption, 'Taking mostly small and middle class people, lost their money. Tough' and underneath, it has, 'How effective is it in They used to queue up. There were hundreds of queues. policing the financial system'. This is the perception These people have lost their money. They went to ~y now of these magazines, the people who write them, shares towards the end of the scam, when the share tlie entire financial world for .that matter, that this prices were rising. After they bought the shares, the Government has not been able to do anything that it set share prices started falling and crashed. So, they lost out to do. It said it would do; it first started with its 1991 their money. I do not know how much It was. Nobody Budget and it has failed. In all the articles Inside, they will, probably, know it. Now, again, for the .second time, only say as to what has failed, why it has failed, what the prices rose and everybody took credit. The Finance has gone 'wrong and what should have been done, etc. Minister also took credit. He said that not only the first So, this is the present position of the financial policies time and the second time but every time, It was the pursued by this Government. result of the policies being pursued by the Govemment. The main Instrument of industrialisation or Well, now that the prices .have gone down, do they say development or modernisation, globallsation, that this is also the result of their policies? If It goes up, IIberalisatlon and what not, of this Government has been then the credit Is theirs; if It goes dwon, do they own .up to depend on the private sector and as much a possibla, their responsibility? I do not think so. I have not heard. on the public sector. First of all, in not letting it go, then anybody saying that.. .. (lnterruptions) squeezing it, closing it down, to sell the shares to the SHRI NIRMAL KANT I CHATTERJEE (Dumdum) : publlc wherever possible, prlvatlse it partially or wholly Because of the fall In prices, the foreign financial or whatever It Is - this is the. policy. To carry on the institutions have lost and he has a tremendous amount business, the private peopijl have to get the ca~ital. of foreign exchange. In fact, I suspect his hand in It We have always been told that this is one burden ... (Interruptions) off our shoulders. No Investment need to be made to SHRI AMAL DATTA: I dcf not know to what extent the industry from the Government sources by taxing It is, because I do not know how much' money Is there, people. So, the money coming out of taxation can then how much money has been taken away. Because of the be used for the purposes of social development, health, taking-away of that Money, tJ:te prices fell. I do not know education and what not. The Prim.. Minister was saying that. If the Finance Minister is 80 convinced about It, let 203 Finance 8ill. 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bf/I. 1995 204 him publish a Paper - White or Green or whatever people. Their whole attitude was IIberalisation, name you can give it. Let us know about it. I will be very globalisation, modernisation and to catch up w-ith the happy if he had been able to squeeze the foreign advanced countries in a short time and to make the financial institutions. But if that was so, he did not Indian capitalists a world class capitalists. Some of them welcome them when they came here because they were take pride and some to these capitalists have become making losses. He thought th.at they will come and give multinationals, the Indian multinationals. How many are us support - a support not for six months or eight months there? Fifty or something, the Indian multinationals. but a support which will be for years together. Wonderful. But we are not concerned with that. We That must have been the reason for welcoming thought that any Government's duty is to do something them at that time. I think that he will not deny that even for the people of the country and the people do not now. So. they have gone back. Are they going to come consist of 70, 80 or 100 families who rule the industries, commerce and business of the country. But the back again? I somehow do not think so. Let us not be Government stands for them. But they could not in a hurry. They may really turn the corner. Another accomplish even that. Government will come; another policy is expected in two years' time. We will see, what they do. It seems Therefore, the pictures of the Finance Minister they are not coming back in hurry. This country's prime disappeared from these magazines now. I even took institution, the UTI is also, I am told, in a financial the trouble of going through them to see any picture crunch to redeem some of their debts which fell due inside! ... (Interruptions) very recently. Something like Rs. 6,000 crore, they had So, there are many things in the country. I am just to redeem or they will have to redeem ultimately, during on the point of how the Government could raise its this period. They had to sell shares that is what the finances for the industrial capital. Thereare many other ".,,,,rket shows. The Chairman denies stating that 'we insturments which could be thought of. I just wanted to are not selling shares, we have been led by buyers in give the suggestion. There can be a new debt instrument the market' and so on. Nobody believes him. So, this and there can be bonds issued by the Government is the type of credibility our institution have built up. which will give security to the investors. ','Jnen the Resereve Bank says that 'we are going to -?"jorce this and thaI', nobody believes the Reserve I am thinking in respect of large investors. I am only Dank of India. Nobody believes the SEBI. This is the thinking from the perspective of small investors, .middle prime institution; it regulates the stock market. class salaried people who want to save some money and not be losers because of inflation which Is running So, this is the end result. Without that belief or at the rate of around ten per cent. Here, I am not entering credibility, how wilt a financial institution ever be built ito a quarrel whether it is above ten per cent.or whether up as long as the Government is there? It may not be it stands at 9.6 per cent or so. But it is a fact that people just lack of integrity; it may be sheer callousness, who are saving are losing because of inflation. If such '1egligence when you are not able to understand how instrument of debt are devised whereby they do not I-)e mechanism works. I am not going to blame anybody. lose because of inflation and get some reasonable 3ut the entire system is to be blamed - 'The system return on their savings, I be live many people will be failure' the term as have coined I - but this failure also tempted to invest in that kind of a thing. That will give belongs to those people who have set up the system necessary capital though saving for business and "Ithout understanding what the system is. That is bound commerce. But what is happening today? If you put to fail. your money in the bank, what is the return? What is the Sir. not only the secondary market where actually rate of interest of savings? Even on FOR, the rate is chis. kind of spurt has come twice during the last four about 11 to 12 per cent, but one Is really getting only years but the primary market where the new capital will two per cent. EVen with that kind of two or three per be garnered from the market by the new industrialists cent return, investors are happy If the inflation Is taken or industrialists who are trying to expand a sort of new care of. That kind of a mechanism can be devised industries and so on, are also in a soup, and the people which will be more appropriate to the Indian situation. who have not been getting ready to float the new equity Moreover, In the money market there 'ara many issues in the market are held back now because there devices. For example In othar countries, thare Is is not much chance of their being subscribed or if their secondary market for mortgage house building and so subscription is below a certain percentage, then they on. But h8fe, w_ have nothing of that sort. With la great have to return the money and all that. experience, I thought-the Finance Mlnlater ~ould have What I am saying is that this Government has been introduced all tha.e things suoh .s floating rate of a complete failure on the standards which it set for Inter_.t on bond., etc. But apparently, ha has got stuck itself. I am not going to waste my time saying that they with the Ideas with Which he started four years ago, and have not done anything for the poor people. It was he'has not mad. much progres•. never expected to do anythning tor the poor people. Take the chit f~nd for example. Chit fund. are found They say it but they never try to do anything for the poor In this country alone. No other ocuntly has such a 205 Finance 8111, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 206 device. I understand that the chit fund companies are which of course, the banks ask only for such people - raising a lot of money. I don't know whether it is true could benefit. But if it is a businessman dealing with a beCfluse statistics cannot always be relied upon. But I five star hotel busness, they do not ask, rather do not am, told that Rs. 10,000 crore are raised by chit funds dare to ask, for securities from them. Sometimes, I was alone. Then, there are the saving companies also. All told by a Chairman of a bank himself that if I ask for these have to be properly regulated. The difficulty is security from them, they say, it is not the policy of the that there is no regulation. There is not proper legal company to give any personal security of a Director. If framework. Even if there are some norms, they are just I still insist for a personal security from the Director, not enforced. I had an occasion to ask the Reserve then they would go to some other bank and I would Bank interacting with them about the reason for the lose my investment. So, I fall in line for that. That is the failure of financial institutions. I am referring to the kind of a thing which is happening in the country. It is failure of the non-banking financial institutions which really being run by a handful of people at the top. They occured at that time, say two years ago, in West Bengal. dictate the policy, of course, subject to the approval of I wanted to know why those companies were asked to the masters abroad. close down. I understood that their monitoring is lone Sir, I would like to mention a small point about once in a year. Even that was not carried out properly. devolution of taxes. This is about a recommendation on somehow, the Central Banking Institution is not really taxes, which I read in the report of the Finance discharging its duties fully. It should be more vigilant. Commission, which I think, should be taken note of. They should have more staff. If they do not have What is happening for so long- after the formation of the adequate staff, they could appoint people. Professionals, first Finance Commission till now is that the excise duty chartered accountants and lawyers who are well and the income tax which are being devolved to the qualified for this sort of work are available. But nothingh States are being develoved at different rates. At present, is being done In this direction. 85 per cent of the income tax and 40-45 per cent of the Similar is the case with SEBI. I know of a case excise duty are being devolved to the States. Now, the where SEBI has approved the floating of a new issue suggestion given by the Finance Commission is that on the basis of the propectus which contained a list of there should be one rate for both. The income tax and the assests of the company. Some properties which did excise duty should be lumped together and one rate not belong to that company were also listed. They simply should be applied in both the cases. It is a very sensible said that those were the properties of the company and suggestion. In that case, there would not be doubts that in the footnote, it was indicated that there was some we have today. I must admit that with every Budget litigation pending in respect of the said properties. The presented by the ruling Party, there is a feeling that property was a very good assest, valued at Rs. 10 there is some kind of a trickery somewhere when the crore. But nobody tried to findout what the litigation was Central ,?overnment is foregoing a share of 85 per cent about. The contention was that the property which was in income tax. The Central Government is not as careful registered in the name of the company should be de- in applying the income tax law and collecting the taxes registered and it was de-registered. The Company has when they are giving the States, a share of 85 per cent gone Into an appeal against the de-registration. While in income tax; as they are in case of the excise duty this was the substance 01 the litigation, all that was put where they retain a major portion of the share. That in the footnote was that the property was under litigation. kind of a suspicion can perhaps be avoided if this So, SEBI's business is finished. The investor banks' suggestion of the Finance Commission is accepted by business too is finished. It js because they did not the Government. inquire into it to find out whether that property could Sir, I would like to mention about some policies, actually be including in the list of assets. Complaints where I feel, something should be done even now. If were made but not heed was paid to them. This is the something is done now, th~m perhaps, a lot of money type of institutions which have been built up. They cannot could be saved for the country. We all remember the really lead this country to any kind of progress in this sugar scam which took place only last year. This sugar field of granerlng capital for the purpose of investment scam has cost the country a lot of money because there in the industrial sector or for that matter in any other was no policy. When finally the orders for import of .ectoL sugar were made, the world prices for sugar had already I have mentioned the Chit Funds because I think gone up by that time, because while we were dilly- the Finance Minister must be knowing about these dallying, everybody knew that we 'would ultimately be aspects. There was Commme. chaired by Shri A.f;. complied to buy a certain amount of sugar and prices Shaw which al80 recommended that Chit Funds need were going up. Now, what has happened is, probably not be abollahed. They could continue if there could be as a result of the high prices of last year, this year proper regulatlona imposed for their proper functioning. production of sugar is going to be very high. It is going I think, thla Is one way.ln which, at least, the middle- to be as much as 140 lakh tonnes as against 98 lakhs cia.. businessmen who cannot go to the bank or cannot tonnes last year. This would be 42 lakh tonnes higher tuft tne bank's requirement of security after security - than last year. The demand is about 120 lakh tonnes. 207 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bi", 1995 2Q8 So, there would be a surplus of about 20 lakh tonnes. We have got the best climatic conditions In the Yet it is being said by the Minister in-Charge that the whole world for agriculture. I do not know whether it is department would have to import four lakh tonnes of understood or appreciated by this House or by the sugar. Certainly it is not for the Finance Minister to Government, including the Ministry of Agriculture. determine the necessity for import of sugar, but here is Somehow, I have a feeling that the Ministry of Agriculture a case where the Finance Minister could put his foot is least interested to expand the agriCUltural base. down and say, 'No import of any amount of sugar Whatever is happening in this country is happening because this year we are going to have, according to despite the Ministry's effort to see that these are not estimates, 20 lakh tonnes in excess after this year's expanded. We have 160 million hectare of land under production of sugar comes in.' Something ,should be foodgrain production and China has got only 100 million done to prevent yet another sugar scam which may hectare. Last year China, produced 450 million tonnes otherwise take place next year. The country's foreign of foodrains and we produced, with 60 per cent more exchange should also be saved. The other thing in this land, only .185 million tonnes of foodrains. Is it not respect is to take note of an observation in the Gian Prakash Committee Report which said that there was unfortunate? In most parts of China there is only one no scientific method for forecasting the production of crop annually because winter is very severe. We do not sugar. I do not know whether the Government have have that severe winter even in the North, He can started dell'ising any peoper scientific method for that produce two or three crops annually in most part of our purpose or not. land provided we do the needful. But we are not doing the needful. From 1978 China's production has jumped This was recommedded and possibly accepted by from 250 million tonnes to about 450 million tonnes in the Government. But the Government quiet often accept 1994. the recommendation and then sit quietly. SHRI K.P. REDDAIAH YADAV (Machilipatnam) : They The other th.ing is about paper prices. Paper prices are importing food grains. have gone up by 11 per cent or so. All kinds of paper prices have gone up by 11 per cent in the last two SHRI AMAL DATTA : They may import. They eat years or so. Newsprint prices have gone up sky high. more. What does it matter. You see what they are It has gone up from as low as Rs.17,000 last year to producing. The question is that we are not eating. I saw about Rs.27,000 this year. So, there is about 80 per Mr. Nirmal Chatterjee's speech which he delivered in cent rise in the prices of new print and, therefore, the this House on Thursday where he has given certain newspaper owners had given a threat to go on strike. figures and usually he is a genius statistician. Just before the strike was to take place, the Commerce SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: You can hear Minister conceded to their demand to put the newsprint a speech but how can you see it? on OGL and at zero duty. The Finance Minister must have agreed to it. SHRI AMAL DATTA : I saw it in print. In this country if we are go in for the education of MR. CHAIRMAN : Please wind up now. masses, then we require much more paper of all SHRI AMAL DATTA: Sir, I am already wound up. As varieties and also the newsprint. The Government has have already said, I am doing a post-mortem. It is not taken any concrete step to increase the supply of already wound up, Sir. the raw material because even today the paper mills are using wood or wood pulp imported from abroad. In this country we have an institution called Indian This coutry has got one of the best climatic conditions Council for Agricultural Research, ICAR. which is for growing the species of trees which are required for probably the only institution with the responsibility of the manufacture of paper but we have not taken any dOing research. There are 50 such institutions under step to augment the supply of our raw material. This is this institution with the responsibility of extension, with to be noted and something should be done by way of the responsibility of marketing not only agricultural but giving necessary incentives, if necessary, to paper mills all kinds of allied products like fish, poultry, dairy etc. themselves making it obligatory for them to produce the Unfortunately, this is some thing which people should amount of timber they are going to consume and they start thinking now, the whole range of things cannot be should consume only that amount of timber and not under one umbrella .. Maybe under one umbrella but more. Something like that has to be done. But I do not cannot be dealt with in detail by one institution where see any sign of that. This is very very essential because most 01 these subjects are not receiving any attention. we in fact are using very very small quantity of paper per person compared to the international standards. For one thing, I know, in my State there is only one After all, 60 per cent of the people of this country are such institution. As you know, Sir, my State has been still, illiterate. They have no connection with paper. This deprived of all - no CSIR, only one ICAR, no defence I think should be taken note of and something should research laboratory, nothing. That used to be called be done about it; otherwise, oven by putting newsprint Jute Research Institute but now the name given to it on OGL, we will not be able to get the supply of newsprint is Central Research Institute for Jute and Allied Fibres. for the purpose of printing paper at a cost at wt. j~'1 This institute has been neglected. The way It has been people can buy it in future. neglected is unbelievable. There is no proper Director. 209 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 210 The person who became its Director drove out the may be one or two big farmers even having the acres scientists. This is the kind of thing which has been of land. But I find, amongst our supporters, there is going on for four years. A Member of Parliament of that nobody having even haH an acre of land. That is the area is also involved and when he went there, there condition. So, I have to speak for them. We got them was an attack on him t,y the scientists. All kinds of some new hybrid technology. things have happened. It is remarkeable that jute is a Sir, you come from Punjab. You know very well that product of eastern India where on jute depends the farmers of Punjab are making lakhs or rupees in one livelihood of two lakh peasant families and many acre of land by growing tomatoes. They have also workers also. The number of workers used to be more started doing that now. But, where is the money? They than two lakh earlier but now the figure has gone down go to the banks. The banks ask the farmers whether the because of closure of several mills, retrenchment etc., lands in which they are cultivating belong to them. They - thanks to the policies of the Government, policies will say that the lands do not belong to them. They have pursued and policies not pursued. I have been to the taken them on lease fr6m somebody. Then the banks institute earlier also and I have seen this example with will ask them to show their lease. Nobody is giving my own eyes. I have seen what has happened there. them a signed lease for three months or four months. But in other institutions also I know that no systematic So, it is only an oral lease. What is the scale of finance? research is carried on. What research is done has The scale of finance is As. 2600 per acre. On one nothing to do with what is needed in the field. If occasion I had to react to the Aeserve Bank of India something is done by chance, accidentally, which may people. I told them that this is the problem. Then, they be used in the field then there is nobody there to take said that they will talk to NABAAD to change there it out because they say "it is our idea, we are scientists, scale of finance, this and that. They did nothing. Neither we ae working here, there are no people, no extension did they talk to the ABI nor to the NABAAD. workers. Why is it that no extension workers are there? I did not know until I was first told by the Indian Institute I wrote a letter to the Finance Minister two years of Horticultural Aesearch in Uttaraghatta, Bangalore, back. Then I caught hold of the bank itseH and shouted that extension work is also a mandate of ICAR. I have at everybody, including their Chairman. That is why, I been elected by Lok Sabha, through this House to got the scale of finance inc-erased from As. 2600 to As. ICAR and there I find that they are so· un-serious about 15,000. That is the scale of finance required for one everything that in the Annual General Meeting they acre of land. They were only prepared to give Rs.2600. confronted me with the annual accounts which gave no There were other legal conditions. The legal conditions picture at all as to what they are doing. When I said, were also changed. Even then there were problems. "What is it for? You are concealing everything", they The problems arose in this way. Alter the money was said, "it is the format given to us by the CAG". given, nobody from the bank ever went to see what that farmer is doing. When the time came for them to give I said that then you will have to talk to C&AG and further loans they said that they cannot give any loans. give us a format of accounts diclosing everything and I asked them why can they not give loans? They said concealing nothing. Since many people are raising many that it is because nobody returns the money. I told them issues before him I do not know whether the Finance to give their names. It took them one month to give me Minister is aware that this type of thing is going on their names. Alter that I sent my people. Then they said there. But something has to be done. that they are prepared to give loans but nobody is In this year's Budget, you have allocated As. 2300 asking them to give loans. The village people said that crore. If things are allowed to carry on as they being until the bank people ask us money why should we carried on now, I am afraid that spending of this money pay? So, we got them together, invited the banks and will do a very little good to the people of this country. then the payments were made. If a person in earning As. 1 lakh from one acre of land there is no reason MR. CHAIAMAN : Mr. Datta, you have taken a why he is not prepared to pay that As. 15,000. They are substantial time. Please conclude. not crooks. They are honest people. They are prepared SHRI AMAL DATTA : Sir, just one point. This is to return the money but the banks are not willing to go concerning the Finance Minister. He should know this. and collect their money or ask them to pay their money. He is the note sender. He is the heart of his Finance So, this is the kind of thing which is going on. I have Ministry. He is the heart of the whole Council of tried to impress upon the hon. Finance Minister to look Ministers. It is because he can stop and start anything. into the affairs of the smaller farmers in our countryside. The Finance Minister has got more power even more If it is done, then a lot of developments can take place. than the Prime Minister. I hope he will give us something If the Agriculture Minister or the Ministry becomes now. an obstacle, even then improvement can take place. Sir, last but not least is the danger or obstacle But without finance nothing can be moved. That is one coming in the way of expansion of agriculture, thing. Sir, I am very grateful to you that you have given particularly, by the smaller farmers. In my constituency, me sufficient time to speak. With these words I finish my the average land holding is less than one acre. There speech. 211 Finance Bill, t 995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 212 [Translation] 17.00 hr•. SHRI BHERU LAL MEENA (Salumbar) : Mr. I urge upon the Prime Minister in particular to ensure Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill. I have that the Central grants are utilised in the developmental been elected from a rural constituency. Therefore, I would schemes formulated of the State. I have no intention to like to draw the attention of the Government to the rural put hurdle in this work, but the Members of Parliament, areas. Many hon. Members have expressed their views ir.respective of their political parties, should be consulted here. I will not go into the details but speak in brief before granting money to the State 'Governments and about the rural areas only. The .hon. Finance Minister thereby the poor should be benefited. has earmarked a substantial sum for the development Opening of schools and education of illiterates is of the rural areas, provided facilities to them and prerequisite for rural development. In the schools located formulated new schemes for them on the Congress in rural areas, teachers With urtian backgrond are posted Govemment had promised to develop the rural areas there. Only affulent villagers can afford sending their but those schemes were not propoerly implemented children 10-15 kilometres away for schooling. The matric because the middlemen pocketed most of the money pass person of the areas are not considered qualified released for the schemes. for jobs. Then another aspect pertaining to S.Cs and In our area, some are given oxen, some' oxen cart S.Ts also crop up. The children are not taught there and some others pumping sets, under the self- properly with the result that sometimes, all the children employment scheme. I would like to illustrate my pOint fail in their classes. On the one hand, we want that our by an example. If the prevalent market price of a pumping country should progress and people also set education set is Rs.S thousand, its price is quoted at Rs.12 but on other hand, the standard of education is going thousand by the Panchayat Samities under DRDA. The down. The rural children cannot progress and will not amount of Rs.2-3 thousand give,) as subsidy is pocketed get any benefit. I want to point out that when we are by the middlemen. The Government should check such going for liberalisation Privatisation will increase and type 01 irregularities to ensure that proper benefit of then only the educated and ITI trained persons will get these schemes reach the people. employment tribal people and persons from rural areas will not be taken in jobs only resourceful people will Our former Prime Minister, late Shri Rajiv Gandhi get them. That is why I want to urge upon the had visited tribal areas in Rajasthan 3-4 times. He visited Government that more funds should be granted for the hamlets of tribals and saw their plight. He formulated education in the rural areas and It should be under the many schemes to improve their lot. Now, Shri Narasimha direct control of either the Central Government or the Rao want to implemsnt those schemes. He has State Governments and thereby rura~ children may formulated such developmental schemes and launched become educated and progress. them in the tribal areas. I want to submit that when the money sanctioned by the Government of India under On this occasion I would also like to forecast that the Jawahar Roz§ar Yojana for the construction of in the wake of privatisation, new industries would not houses, school buildings and roads reach Rajasthan, generate much employment opportunities, even the where BJP Government is in power, the worker of BJP existing industries are being closed down. Moreover, goes there and says 'say with pride .... (/nterruptions)* new industries would be set up around the urban areas bring work ... (lnterruptions) having all kinds of facilities and it Is but natural that urban people would not get employment and these PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT (Ajmer) : Mr. Chairman, remain idle an'd would ultimately be booked and Sir, the name should be expunged from the proceedings. prosecuted on charges of terrorism and naxalism. So, SHRI BHERU LAL MEENA : Then that worker says as far the privatisation in the rural areas is concerned that the work cannot be started until and unless he is Government should exercise direct control so as wield given his commission. I am telling a fact to which I have its pressure for providing employment to the local been an eye witness. The hon. Members also know that people. Now I may tell you of my area. On my way from I never tell a lie. my area to Delhi via Jaipur, I See many new industries . coming up but after Jalpur, in the tribal areas, no MA. SPEAKER : Please do not name anybody. Industries are being set up. Even If some of the Industries SHRI BHERU LAL MEENA : The name may be are set up there, the facilities such as water and expundged from the proceedings o.f the House. electricity are not available there. I urge. upon the Whenever we put a question here, the hon. Minister Govemment to take measures for the development of says that it is the subject of the State Government the rural areas so that new Industries are set up there whereas the State Government puts the responsibility also. on the Goverment of India. I feel much grieved when Many hon. Members have spoken about the plight such things happen even after the funds are released of the farmers and I agree with them. The farmers are by the Government of India. not getting remunerative prices for the foodgrains which Not Recorded. they otherwise deserve. The agriculture land In tribal 213 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 214 area in my constituency is very less. People have small At last, I would like to say that more and more holdings, ranging between haH bigha and one bigha reservations are being provided in the wake of the with no irrigational facilities. So the yield is very less Mandai Commission report. The position is that the jobs an,t:l the people have to purchase foodgrains throughout have not been given against the backlog while some the year. I would like to request the Government that new castes are being included for reservations: I am subsidy should be increased under the Public not against including new castes for reservations but Distribution System so that these people can purchase where are the job opportunities? There are limited food grains at cheaper rates. I have been working among numbers of job opportunities in the Government offices the workers for the last 50 years and I am the Vice- and the public sector undertakings are also gradually Chairman of INTUC in Rajashtan. The Government have being closed down. The people from the rural areas set up a Tripartite Labour Committee under the would not get jobs like this. If job opportunities are to Chairmanship of Shri Ramanujam. The Committee will be increased, reservations should be made in the private consider the questions relating to payment of enhanced sector also, otherwise, nobody will get benefit of bonus to the workers of the undertakings and factories, reservations by only mere talks of reservations. raising of tax exemption ceiling on their income, payment of dearness allowance according to the price index and While concluding I thank you for giving me time to payment of pension to these workers. The committee speak. has already unanimously decided on these issues. The SHRI RAMESHWAR PATIDAR (Khargone) : Mr. hon. Minister of Labour, on behalf of the Government Deputy Speaker, Sir, many hon. Members have referred gave an assurance for implementing this decision at an to the corruption charges against the Government. Shri early date but no action has so far been taken which Arjun Singh has pointedly charged the Government of has resulted in discontentment among the workers. The bungling to the tune of Rs. 90,000 crores. Sir, it is a Government employees get half-yearly hike in their pay predominently an agricultural country but, it seems that and other facilities also but the industrial workers do it has become a predominant bungling country. I am at not get such benefits which create discontentment a loss to decided whether to felicitate the Government among them. The industrial workers generate revenue for changing the character of the country or what else for Government whereas the Government employees to say in this regard. There have been scandal after take salaries from the Government treasury, I am not scandal, such a churhat lottery scandal, sugar scam, opposing them but only saying that they are paid bonus public sector shares sale scandal, Bofors scandal, and other things. The industrial workers generate Hawala transactions, ABB Railway engines purchase revenue by dint of their hardwork and if there are losses scandal. The Congress party has become a synonym of in any industrial unit, it is not because of them but due scandals and scams. to certain other factors though still they are blamed for it. The industrial workers want those facilities which are Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I would like to reter to two being given to the Government employees. scandals here. The han. Minister of Finance is sitting here. A few days ago, it was stated that the subsidy 17.07 hr•. being given to farmers on fertilizers is too much and it should be discontinued. But how the industrialists take (Mr. Deputy Speaker in the Chair) advantage of this subsidy was pointed out in the 21st Shri Manik Lal Verma and Shri Mohan Lal Sukhadia Action Taken Report of PAC of the Ninth Lok Sabha. It in Rajasthan created a new awareness and is stated in the Report implemented many schemes in our area for the development of adivasis. They are no more with us now [English] and the schemes framed by them are not being pursued. "There was excess outgo of subsidy because of Shri Aajiv Gandhi also did make efforts but he is also failure of FICC to revise the retention prices. No action no more with us. Shri Manomhan Singh is with us. Shri was taken by the FICC though units made provision for Rao has also farmulated many rural developmental refunding excess subsidy:' schemes and I am happy to say that whenever I have raised this issue, our Prime Minister has doubl~d the "Actual expenditure incurred by the units including allocations for the rural development. I hope that the expenditure on excessive staff and leading to excess hon. Finance Minister will pay more attention to the outgo of subsidy amounting to Rs. 63.55 crores during rural development this year also to tackle the problem the years 1988-89 to 1990-91 in respect of 45 plants:' of unemployment there. Well, the urban people will manage jobs lor themselves by their dints. 'lTranslation] I urge upon you that the industrial workers should H an excess of subsidy amounting to As. 63 crores be given dearness allowance penSion and pay hike as can be received on fictitious items of expenditure during per the Aamanujam Committee recommendations and a period of two years, then you can well surmise the a decision should be expedited for their benefit so as extent of subsidy bungled over all these years. But to eiimitate the apprehensions paincking them, creating bungUng of this Rs. 63 crores on subsidy fades before the panic among them. big scandals which are happening day in and day out. 215 Finance Bill. 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bill. 1995 216 Sir. I want to attract attention of the House to a fact was to the tune of Rs. 4636 crores and it was only As. that a fertilizer factory with a cost of As. 800 crores 4617 crores (at the 1980-81) price level in 1992-93. It was set up in Haldia in West Bengal during the late was 18 percent of the total investment which further eighties (1989) but due to mismatching of machines, declined to 9 per cent in the wake of economic reforms. the production could not commence. Officers and When you are investing only 9 percent for the 70 per employees had been recruited prior to that i.e. in 1988, cent of population, how can you term these measures after that, experts from abroad kept on coming and as economic reforms. The programmes being undertaken reporting which cost crores of rupees. The Indian experts for the eradication of poverty and rural development finally gave a report that the factory could not be run are of the r,lature of fire fighting which may never lead and it should be closed. But as the case was referred the country to self-reliance. to the BIFA, the plant is not being closed down but A few days ago the hon. Finance Minister in this fertilizer is not being produced in this Rs. 800 crore budget has announced major relief in excise duty on plant whereas the officers and the employees are getting T.Vs, air conditioners and other consumers items and in salaries, bonaus, promotions etc. regulations etc. custom duty on some goods for the industrial regularly involving an annual expenditure of Rs. 18 development and for the benefit of consumers. But the crores like this. In such cases, Government should take reliefs given in the budget for the year 1993-94 and immediate decisions in order to save the money. One 1994-95 have not percolated to the consumers and the of the han. Members was referring to the provision industrialists and traders have swallowed a major chunk made by the Prime Minister for the benefit of the farmers. of these concessions by saying that they are not bound But I would like to tell the actual position. There are 70 to give these benefit to the consumers. I urge upon the per cent farmers in the country and 30% of money is in han. Finance Minister to take stringent measures so the banks for credit facilities to them but only 15 per that the benefit of these concessions percolate to the cent of it has been given to them. Moreover, only 18 per consumers also. cent of the total power production is supplied to the farmers and 70% of it to the industries. Sir, I want to make a few suggestions for arresting the spiralling prices. The Bhartlya Janata Party has The han. Finance Minister has been curtailing the proposed setting up of a commission for fixing allocations for the agriculture sector. I would give an administered prices of essential items and suggested example in this regard. The agricultural production has that no price increase should be done without the become static at the figure of 18.360 crore tonnes and recommendations of the commission and without their there has been decline on capital investment on the being considered by the Parliament. It has also been agricultural produciton in the country. The institutional proposed in the BJP budget. That a National Debt credit facilities and grants have been curtailed in the Redemption Fund should be set up for further name of economic reforms. Simultaneously the strengthening the public sector and redeeming the Government grant for agriculture sector has also been country from foreign debt. The money realised from the curtailed. Due to good rains, the agricultural production sales of public sector shares should be utilised not was satisfactory during the last 5-6 years. If the rains formaking up the deficit financing but for redeeming the are not good in a year, the agricultural yield will be country from foreign debt. Only then the problems of the affected which may result in famine conditions. Neglect country can be solved. of agricultural sector can lead to dire consequences. Sir, before concluding, I want to give one more You have curtailed subsidy on fertilizers as a result suggestion. The work on the Narmada Sagar dam now of which the price of DAP fertilizer have further gone named as Indira Sagar dam in M.P. was started fifteen up. The farmers are using urea in place of DAP and years ago, i.e. in 1980 but not much work has been phosphate. The ratio of chemical fertilizers should be done on it so far because of the paucity of resources 4:2:1 for Nitrogen, Phosphate and Potash respectively. with the M.P. Government. The State Government want That was the ratio in 1991 but later on, control on DAP this Narmada Sagar project to be declared as National was lifted which pushed up the prices of DAP and the project and the Central Government shou.d give ratio became 9.5, 3.02 and 1 for phosphate and potash. financial assistance to the State Government as Is being The cultivable land is degrding due to overdose of urea given to the Gujarat Government for the Sardar Sarovar which will ultimately lead to great problems for the project so as to expedite the work on it. country in future. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA (Madhubani) : Is the State In India the entire investment is centred on Govemment bearing all the expenditure on the Narmada industries and the agriculture sector is being neglected. Sagar project? . Neither the public not the private investments are made in the agricultural sector as there is no remunerative SHRI RAMESHWAA PATIDAR : Yes. If it is declared return on capital investment on it. According to the as a national project, it can receive financial assistance Economic Survey for the year 1980-81, there was no from the Central Government. increase in the capital investment in it. During the year, I want to give one more suggestion. The farmers in 1981 the capital investment in the agriculture sector Madhya Pradesh undertook lift Irrigation schemes on 217 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Finance Bi/l, 1995 218 Narmada and other rivers by taking loans from the down the customs duty on imported goods and services banks some time age. They worked hard and spent and it is very much surprising that the goods and their savings for increasing the irrigated area and the services and all the commodities which are being food,grains production. But due to high rate of interest imported from foreign countries, they do not being to on bank loan, they could not repay the loan as a result the category of capital goods. Here, our country is of which the amount of loan kept on increasing. The suffering, our industries are suffering, our production is farmers are unable to return these huge amount of loan suffering, our people are suffering, but the Finance because of their poor financial condition. They cannot Minister has opened the floodgates by -decreasing the repay loan even if they sell their land and pipelines. customs duties on items like tooth' paste, soap and This schemes has proved to be infeasible. The bank various other items of consumption which are being officers chalked out schemes for them, and gave loans imported from the foreign countries. Every year he is to the farmers by terming the those in-feasible scheme decreaSing the customs duties on these items and this as teasible scheme. It costed dearly to farmers so much year also the customs duties on these items have been so that they found caltivating a loss making activity. The decreased by the Finance Minister. So, the Finance Central Government should write off the interest and Minister has opened the floodgates to the foreigners adjust the principal amount of loan against grants and to those persons who are interested to import through the Aeserve Bank of India with a view to provide luxurious items like car, refrigerator, soap, tooth paste relief to these farmers. and various other items of consumption which can be easily produced here in our country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I could raise many issues but for the paucity of time. I express my gratitude for So, all these financial measures, I think. are deadly giving me an opportunity to express my views. I cannot opposed to the Swadeshi movement. We want to be a support this Bill because of the points I have tried to self-reliant economy in our country and we want to raise here. build our economy very strongly. But these measures are against all the tenets and principles of self-reliance {English] and self-dependency. Due to all these measures, there DA. MUMTAZ ANSAAI (Kodarma) : Mr. Deputy will be a plethora of unemployment in our country, Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose this Finance Bill 1995. various items of consumption will be imported in our country and so many of our production units will be This Finance Bill contains so many provisions which are objectionable from our point of view and our policies. closed down. This point is not being taken into consideration by the Finance Minister. I do not know So far as the direct tax is concerned, we had what is compelling our Finance Minister to reduce appealed to the Finance Minister time and again that customs duties on these items. So, I appeal once again the exemption limit should be increased from As. that the customs duty should not be reduced to such an 40,000. But, as per the declaration made in the Budget extent so ruthlessly that all our production units will speech by the Finance Minister that exemption limit is- suffer, they will be closed down and there will be a lot As. 40,000 only. I would once more like to appeal to the of unemployment in our country. Finance Minister that it should be raised from As. 40,000 Similarly, the Finance Minister has granted to As. 50,000 because this .will give a lot of relief for the concessions in respect of certain items like refrigerator, investment and for the industrial climate of the country television and different other items which are considered and it will just create conducive atmosphere in the to be luxurious items and concessions have not been country. declared for the items of necessary consumption. So, So far, the Finance Minister is interested in these concessions which have been given by the hon. increasing the income tax rates and direct tax rates. Finance Minister in respect of all these luxurious items Many smaller savings and many professions and are unnecessary and uncalled for and they should not vocations are going to be brought into the tax net. I have been given. Aather, the Finance Minister should would like to point out here that it is beUer to avoid tax have taken into consideration the basic financial precept evasions because whatever tax evasions take place in and the principle to tax all the luxurious items much the country, that goes up to As. 5,000 crore. So, my more heavily. But the Finance Minister is rushing against humble suggestion Is that the Finance Minister should all these principles and he is trying to tax all the try to plug all the loopholes in respect of income tax necessary items of life. He is trying to grant all the evasion because it goes upto the tune of As. 5,000 concessions to the luxurious iterAs. I fail to understand crore, approximately, Similarly, whatever standard as to what sort of steps are being taken, what sort of deduction has been suggested by the hon. Finance economy is going to be built up, what sort of facilities Minister, that Is also low and this should also be raised. are going to be granted and which sections of the These are my s",ggestlons in connection with the direct people are going to be benefited by all these financial taxeS. measures which are being taken by the Finance Minister. Similarly, In respect of the indirect taxes which have So, these are very paradoxical state of affairs and baen proposed by the Finance Minister I would like to we as students of economics also fail to understand all say that the floodgates have been opened by lowering .these things. 219 Finance Bitl, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 220 Similarly, the incidence of whatever concessions- by the statistical department but the ultimate and the the so called concessions have been granted by the net result is coming to you and you are getting Finance Minister for the necessities of life - is going to appreciation and all sorts of praise in being sung by all be shifted by the producers to the consumers and it is the persons buy just cutting across all the party ultimately the consumer who is suffering. It is the affiliations. So, you must see that the actual compilation consumer who just makes payment of all these taxes. takes place, the actual computation of the inflation rate The relief is not going to reach the ultimate consumer, is done and the benefits must go to the lowest man of the common man and the general people of the country. the society. The actual benefit must be visible through The taxes which have been imposed by the hon. the country and in the actual market of the country also. Finance Minister on different items are jlJst going to be So far as the Prime Minister's Rozgar Yojana is shifted to the common man and ultimately it is the last concerned, our friends from the Treasury Benches, all consumer who is just paying the taxes. So, this sort of the time, are making very loud claims and counter- trick which is applied by all the producers and this sort claims that the Prime Minister had announced so many of fraud which is being committed by a large number of programmes, so many measures, so many policies and producers on the consumers must be held up and so many promises to the youth of the country. We would checked by the hon. Finance Minister. He should also also like to praise him if it is done, if one lakh rupees take into account how this thing can be stopped and are granted to each and every youth who is unemployed what steps should be taken in this regard. so that they will be in a position to start some sort of Similarly, day in day out we hear that the inflation business or avocation. But this is not going to reach the rate is decreasing and this is just single digit inflation actual beneficiaries or the youth of the country. So, I and it will never go to double digit. I fail to understand would like to appeal to the Finance Minister that this what is the method of computation of inflation rate; should also be taken into consideration. Once the Prime whether it is on the basis of a wholesale index or a Minister makes a promise, that promise must become a retail index or a labour index or a consumer price index. wholesome truth because the Prime Minister's promise For. when we go to nook and corner, the remotest part is a promise which must be trusted by the countrymen. and the village areas of the country, we find that the And therefore this scheme of giving one lakh rupees prices are going up daily. The prices of the commodities under the Prime Minister's Rozgar Yojana must be of daily consumption as well as goods and services translated into a reality so that it up to the grass-root which are considered to be very necessary for the level and ultimately the beneficiaries. common man are rising rapidly. There is nothing sort of So far as the banking system in Bihar is concerned, thing that the Finance Minister is going to compute by it is in a deplorable condition because the C.D. ratio is taking all these things into account for determining the only 32.70 per cent. Hardly 30 per cent investment is inflation rate. What steps are being taken in this regard? made in Bihar whereas a huge amount of money is Some praise is being showered upon him and being collected from the poor farmers and from various appreciation are also being made for the steps taken other categories of persons in Bihar. The investments by the Finance Minister. We also appreciate some time are being made in various other cities of the country because we also see daily in the newspapers that the and the investment is not being made in Bihar. HEC, inflation is being kept within single digit. We are not Ranchi - Shri Choudhury represents that constituency interested in whether the inflation is being calculated - had extended a lot of cooperation in the on weekly basis or on monthly basis or on six monthly establishment of Bokaro Steel Plant, Rourkela Steel basis, whatever that may be, but what we are interested Plant and so many machines manufactured there were in is that all these reliefs and benefits - if the inflation exported to foreign countries also. But today it is in a rate is actually declining and if the index is showing deplorable condition and it is dying out. HEC is an decreasing trend - must go to the lowest man of the important factory in Bihar which can be considered as society because these are the persons on whom the the mother-industry which had helped in the benefits must devolve. So, this is also a paradoxical establishment of so many steel plants in the country situation and I would like to appeal to the Finance and which was exporting so many machines to the Minsiter that this should also be taken into consideration. foreign countries and developing countries. Now, It Is We would like to know as to what is the statistical languishing like anything; people are crying; people method of computation of inflation rate, how the average are holding dharnas and protests; they have come to prices are collected, how the compilation is made, how Delhi also and they are rallying here. aut no heed is the goods and services are represented and being paid to them by the hon. Finance Minister; accommodated in that index as it concerns the common Similarly, so far as this priority sector is concerned, man. A few month's back, this question was raised in an announcement was made by the Rpserve Bank of the Question Hour also. The hon. Finance Minister has India and by the hon. Finance Minister also that priority replied that we are not in contact with all these sector financing will get priority over other investments. authorities because all thes things are computed by the They say that priority will be given to agriculture, priority statistical department. These things may be computed will be given to small scale industries, priority will be 221 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA " 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 222 given to educated unemployed youth, priority will be duties in order to reduce the cost of domestic production given to small .transport operators, but these are just and to increase the rate of growth of industrial taking a back seat; they are being relegated to the production. background; they are not getting any priority. It was said The Finance Minister also proposed in the Finance that 40 per cent of the total investment made would be Bill a five year tax holiday to enterprises which have in respect of these categories. Perhaps, this was the built up, maintained and operated infrastructural facilities guideline which was announced in the year 1969-70, such as, constructing new bridges, highways, air ports when the banks' nationalisation was made. But this and ports etc. These are all, of course, very essential. also is not getting any priority and this is not being But, in Tamil Nadu some airports have been constructed translated into reality and action. So, I would like to and they are not used. Funds are 'allotted for appeal to the Finance Minister that this priority sector constructing ·airports. Before allotting funds, they must financing should also be taken into consideration and see whether there is viability. Some airports are at least the priority sector financing must get priority constructed by alloting many crores of rupees, but they over other sorts of investments. are not useful at all. In Tamil Nadu, three airports have Similarly, subsidies have been cut and subsidies been constructed. They are not used now. have not been given commensurate with whatever I would like to give these suggestions for the demands have been made by different Members on consideration of the Finance Minister who may react at food. on power, on fertilizers etc. So, I appeal to the the time of giving his reply. In view of the erosion of hon. Finance Minister that these subsidies must be given rupee value and inflation, the value of rupee In real because here are the really poor benefiCiaries, here terms has come down. Therefore, it is justified that are the really poor persons and here are the really poor income-tax exemption limit should be raised to Rs. Indians who are crying for this thing. This is the current 50,000/- at least so that some relief is provided to need of the country and that is why, heed should be salaries class, the . lower class and the middle-class paid to whatever the people are asking, that is, the people who are the worst sufferers because of inflation. subsidy on power should be increased. I would request the hon. Finance Minister to Fertilizer subsidy should be increased. A cut motion strengthen the machinery for raids,searches and was given on food subsidy. This motion was not moved seizures in order to book those who evade income-tax. and that was also not taken into consideration. I would Tax collection machinery should be effectively like to emphasise that this subsidy on food should be streamlined. increased. These are vital sectors and vital parts of the The house of a Health Secretary in Tamil Nadu was economy. These are infrastructural facilities of the raided and they seized goods worth Rs. one crore and country. Unless and until the hon. Finance Minister pays he was placed under suspension. After some time, now attention to all these infrastructural facilities, our country I understand, he has been reinstated. People suspect. is not going to develop. That is why, whatever subsidy Why? It appeared in all newspapers that his house was has been curtailed by the Finance Minister should also raided. be inreased. . They seized some incriminating documents, some A large number of Members have spoken on banking American dollars and some Indian currency notes worth system which should also be streamlined and improved about rupees one crore. How has that man been because this is the life-blood of the economy. The reinstated? This is the question raised by the public. banking system is committing a lot of irregularities. Many So, I would request the hon. Minister to look into this. frauds, misappropriations, forgeries are taking place People know that our hon. Finance Minister is very and thousands of crores of rupees are being misused efficient, very honest and very sincere in his efforts. But and defrauded by the people. they doubt why this man has now been reinstated. The My appeal to the Finance Minister is that the money is there. It is lying with the Income-Tax banking system should also be streamlined 'and Department. So, In such cases, our Ministry should take improved and it must be made very transparent and initiative. They should be very harsh in dealing with accountable to the countrymen, the authorities and to these matters. the Finance Minister himseH. Apart from that, I would like to suggest that the With these words, I conclude my speech. taxes collected through various sources should be SHRI M. KRISHNASWAMY (Vandavasi) : Mr. Deputy utilised properly for the prosperity of the country, for the Speaker, Sir, Thank you very much for giving me this defence of the country, for the social sectors, for poverty- opportunity to speak. alleviation programme. In this respect, I would like to mention that the rural areas are exploited by I rise to support the Finance Bill moved by the hon. unscrupulous traders and black-marketeers.The amount Finance Minister. provided for subsidy is inadequate and the farmers are I support most of the proposals made in the Finance finding It difficuh to get fertilizers at reasonable prices Bill. For example, there is extensive reduction of excise for farming activities. The standard of living of the 223 Flnanc. Bin, 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bil/, 1995 224 farmers is very very low compared even to a small he is ruined. This is the position. Therefore, we must t~der, a pawn-shop man. A pawn-shop man can link the peninsular rivers. For that, whatever amount is celebrate his daughter's marriage by offering 10 or 20 reqUired, we can provide. There need not be any other sovereigns whereas a man in Tamil Nadu owning about development for five years. This is my suggestion. 20 acres of land is not able to celebrate the marriage of his daughter by offering even five sovereigns. That is There need not be any school; there need not be the condition of the farmers. So, I request the hon. any telephones and no other thing. You just stop Finance Minister to consider these aspects. The subsidy everything for five years and utilise the fund for linking should be given to the farmers so that they would be the rivers because I know in Tamil Nadu people are benefited. Even after 48 years of Independence, their suffei'ing even due to lack of drinking water. If the rivers condition is wo~e that anybody else. So, I request the are linked, I think the Southern States will be benefited hon. Finance Minister to see that the subsidy is increased very much. I would like to draw the attention of the hon. to all the farmers. Finance Minister to allot some funds for at least surveying the proposal to see whether it is possible or Sir. I welcome the new scheme, namely: the Rural not. I request the hon. Finance Minister to bestow his Intrastructure Development Fund being set up within attention in this regard. tha"ttl.,\BARD institution. But as in every rural scheme, implementation Is very important since the funds do not Further, as far as Tamil Nadu is concerned. there percolate down to the beneficiaries. There should be a has not been a major industry since 1967. There were proper monitoring agency at the State and Central levels some major industries established during the Kamraj to oversee these projects. I know that the Jawahar period like the Integral Coach Factory, Manali Refineries, Rozgar Yojana and other rural development schemes' Heavy Vehicles Factory, clothing factories, BEL and so are being implemented. We are giving money. The on. There has not been any heavy industry established Central Government is giving money for the in Tamil Nadu for the past 28 years. So I request the implementation of the programmes in the villages. But Finance Minister to consider this aspect of setting up of we must Sft whether the schemes are monitored heavy industries. In my district of Thiruvannamalai properly or not because so many things are there. I Sambuvarayar in Tamil Nadu, there has not been a know what Is going on in our place. You give the money. small industry not even a cottage industry. So I would Of course, the Central Government is giving 80 per cent request the Finance Minister to consider setting up some and 20 per cent Is given by the State Govemments. But industries in my district as it is the only district in Tamil the implementation is with the State Governments. When Nadu which has not small or cottage industries. So I they implement, there are so many loopholes. Suppose request you to consider this aspect of setting up of one the grant Is Rs. 2 lakhs for laying roads. Out of -that, not industry in my district and one heavy industry in Tamil even Rs. 80,000 is going towards laying the road. That Nadu. is the state of affairs in our State. So, please see that Now the loan is sanctioned to set up heavy the amount Is being spent properly. Some agency should be there. Some respectable persons from the villages industries. Some business people approach with their can be appointed to see whether the schemes are project proposal and get the loan sanctioned. Then implemented properly in the rural weHare centres or they declare their industries as sick as they divert their not. At the same time, the villages are neglected in funds to some other places thinking that they can cheat respect of the health programmes. The health centres the Government, cheat the public institutions. In such are not provided. The death rate is also very high in the cases, they should be punished according to the criminal villages co'mpared with towns. So, the health centres law. If a man steals a tumbler worth Rs. 5, he is sent should be constructed in all the villages so that at least to jail whereas these people are stealing hundreds of they can have good facilities, they can get their health crores of rupees and they should be sent to jail. I conditions Improved. request the hon. Finance Minister to consider these aspects because the Finance Minister is the only person Similarly, water is also a resource. It should be who do it. People depend on you. People respect you. harnessed properly .like power or natural gas. I have They~ faith in you; they have confidence in you. Of been telling every year in this Parliament about this. course, ourcountry-ia_going in the right direction under The proposal for the linking of the peninsular rivers in the able guidance of our Prime Minister and the Finance the Southern States' In pending for a long time. As far Minister is doing his best to Improve our standard of as Tamil Nadu Is concerned, there Is no other source. living. We are depel!dlng only on rain water.. If there is a Qlonsoon failure, .llll crops fail. So, the people are I thank you very much for introducing the Finance suffering like anything. We know about that. The farmer Bill. I support the proposals moved by the hon. Finance raises crops like groundnut or something like that in a Minister. particular year and If the rain falls, he loses everything. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (KishanganJ) : Mr. Suppose It happens for two orthree years consecutively, Deputy-Speaker, Sir, from the dawn of Independence, then he Is burdened with debt. A huge debt Is there. successive Finance Minister haVe assured us that the Uhimately, he Ia not able to recover from his debt and tax syl.tem would be rdtlonaJised; it would be 225 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 226 streamlined and the structure would be simplified. I am this means unnecessary harassm&nt for the honest tax conscious of the fact that the hon. Finance Minister for paper. He has to maintain records for the advance tax whom I have got the highest personal regard, but he has been paying. etc. I would suggest. that except wham I regard rather as an innocent academician who for the companies, this system of advance payment has been lost in the maze of politics, has tried his very etc., should be abolished. Maybe It can be retained for best to simplify the structure. Now his time is coming to people who are in very high bracket but the people who, an end. If I were to judge by the structure that he is are in the ordinary tax bracket, should be exempted presenting us today, I do not see much success. There from this procedure because it causes unnecessary has been some development but not to the extent I and cumbersome difficulties which are avoidable and would have expected from him, during his period in do not really add to the money at the disposal of the office as the Finance Minister. Finance Minister. What he loses this year in any case he gain next year. I would like to suggest a conceptual framework perhaps to make his tas; simpler. A lot has been said Sir, there is a lot of lack of transparency in our tax of late, that unity lies in uniformity. Now I imagine that system; it lends itself to a lot of fraud on the public or the Finance Minister could apply his mind to the the exchequer and on the system. Sir, I would sug , evoluation of a uniform tax code so that the concessions for his consideration a system of social control. Let the and facilities that are available, say to one class of list of tax defaulters, list of those against whom banks people, namely, the Hindu undivided family, are no have filed a case of fraud or for recovery of bad debts longer there. those names be publicized. I think that w~1 generate" - greatest possible social pressure on such people I think it is in a way discriminatory; it is in a way know this system is operational 'In some countries in violation of the principle of equality under the the West. The local municipal office for example. in Constitution. That is one of the thickets that he has to France, produces a list of the people who are in de'a,," remove from this tax jungle; one of the land-mines that and behold, they are then pressurized 'by the pub" he has to remove from the arena of the tax system. opinion into making the payment! I would say that Secondly, it should be absolutely clear that all transparency coupled with social control can achIeve incomes, direct or indirect, from the country or outside, wonder, and I think it should be given try by the hl . from any source whatsoever, agriculture, industry, playing Minister. ' with the share malket, all incomes should be aggregated Sir, I would now come to some 'thoughts' that I have and taxed. No in~ome should be exempted. No income about the question of excise duty. It is true th~t finall" should enjoy th privilege of being exempted from this the burden falls on the consumer and the Finance computation. Minister with the best of intentions cannot avoid thiS Thirdly, all citizens should be taxed uniformly and from happening. I would suggest that at least on items should be subject to the taxes on their world Income of mass consumptions from 'the state of raw material to because we have a growing number of people who the state of the finished products let it be completly tax- derive part of their income from outside. Therefore, all free ... (lnterruptionsj If that is possible. I am only citizens should be taxed on their total income. speaking for the common man, I am only mentioning for example the coarse variety of cloth which the ordinary Another thing I would like to say is, another general man needs for his shirt, for his pajama and saree. principle, that these exemption limits, or the deduction Nothing more ... (Interruptions) Butthls Is only an example limits or the various financial limits that go on changing I am giving but for various products of this n'ature, the from year to year in a rather arbitrary manner depending tax structure can be examined. upon which side of the bed the Finance Minister happens to have woken up In the morning on the day he presents Therefore if there are items of mass consumption, the Budget proposals. There should be some method to then they should be completely free. If you accept this it. They should be Indexed to inflation. Let us take the general proposition, I am very happy. 1951 as the starting point. Indexation of such limits to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Just a minute. Is It the Inllatlon from year to year, will be automatic, nobody desire of the House that we shall sit one hour more. so can complain; nobody can call it arbitrary that would be that many hon. Members can participate in the another general principle - that I would like to place discussion? Does the House agree to this? before him for his consideration. SOME HON. MEMBERS : Yes, Sir. Something more, there III a system of the advance MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : So, the sitting of the tax, of the DTS system - all this was evolved at a House is extended by one hour. particular time when we were facing the financial crisis - I do not s~e over a period of time any particular SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : About the Cu..on. benefit from It. You wUI receive some money in advance Duty, for example, In the same way, there are c_"" which you would have received at the beginning or at items of mass consumption. One example I would plac. the end of the financial year. I would always say that before the House 1$ newsprint and paper which Is an 227 Finance Bill. '1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bill. 1995 228 essential item for a developing country which has staked that any money which is invested in the single room Its future on the question of mass information and mass tenements as was done by the famous Mayor of education. Now if such an essential item is in short Marseilles who later rose to become the President of supply and the demand cannot be met by indigenous the Republic of France, that he would not tax it or ask Droduction, then in that case, as a matter of principle, about the source of that money. Something of that sort without our raising the question in the Parliement, should happen in order to attract this black money without any fuss, without any agitation, such items should reserve into a socially productive and useful channel. be immediately made duty free. There should be a A certain percentage of any expenditure on higher conc'?ptual breakthrough in this field. That of course education or maybe on specialised medical treatment, already applies, I am sure, the hon. Minister has in maybe 50 per cent, should be allowed. But not ordinary mind. to a large extent, to industrial raw materials which expenditure on education and not ordinary expenditure are needed for production purposes and for re export. on medical assistance. I am speaking of a level which There is a lot of black money floating around. In demands a very high expenditure. tact the Government has given up on this. It does not My Third point is. about investment in 'no industry' .,ven estimate the quantum of the black money economy district. Just now we had one hon. Member pleading \ hat is now in operation. Some say it is almost like a that his district should have small scale units. The word parallel economy, almost equal in size to the GOP. I do 'area' is very vague. I would request you that it should not know. I am not an economist. But some time back be more specific and brought down to. the level of 'no I had read a book which had given this sort of dimension. industry' district and the concession should be available I do not know whether it is directly related to the high onl~' to units, not any where in an underdeveloped level of corruption in our society. I must say that it is the State, or a backward State, not even in a backward political system which is the source or spring of region, but in a backward district. Then only the remedy corruption in this country. Therefore if the Finance will go the part which really needs it. Minister is sincere and serious about it, he must persuade the Government to enact a law that all public I would say that as a general principle 25 per cent servants and all those who are in public life must publish of any profit from an export undertaking should be a statement of assets. whether moveable or exempt so that there is an impetus for export. I wouJd immoveable - I know the catch; moveable and add one more item for tax exemption, for the immoveable - place it before the public when they enter consideration of the hon. Finance Minister into the public service or whtln they enter into the public institutionalised charity. There should be a system of life. Perhap-s it should be made a compulsory registration or something like that. If an institution is requirement for everyone who is elected into the organised and recognised, then automatically a certain Legislature. If this is done, perhaps you might be able percentage say 50% of all donations to any organised to cover some of the ground that we have lost through charity for the general welfare of the people should be corruption. There may be either ways, but corruption is completely exempt from· tax. a very insidious phenomenon and perhaps it may not Finally, if I may be bold enough to make a be possible to banish it. I know that one rupee which suggestion, I would say that all political contributions the Finance Minister invests in a given project, finally by companies should be exempted and go into a at the grassroot level, boils down to maybe ten paise common pool and that should be distributed to various or twenty paise. Somewhere along the line leakage political parties in a certain proportion which can be takes place. I do not think it is physically possible to agreed upon in order to finance our political machinery. institute an Inspector Raj because Inspector Raj means many more persons sharing the booty. But sometime I Now, there are certain facilities that we provide for think our mind should be applied and I have great faith our distressed, disadvantaged and deprived population, in Dr. Manmohan Singh that he would find a way out of the aged, the disabled, the victims of natural disasters, this prevalent and flourishing corruption that is virtually the victims of man-made disasters like atrocities and eating into the vitals of our ecomomy. massacres and the victims of the economic system like the unemployed. These facilities very from State to State. There should be, in my view, a certain agreed Why can't the hon. Finance Minister devise a national pattern of general exemption from income tax. As he system of relief for all these groups, as he is trying to has already announced, in principle, I would say, for do in the case of the aged? In the case of the disabled any investment in social infrastructure. This I had and in the case of the unemployed also, he should tell suggested many years ago and I am happy that some each State that for each rupee put In by the Centre, the of these ideas have caught on. For example, I would State should also put in a rupee. Let it be a joint particularly insist on housing which is a major problem. operation by the State and the Centre. There should be The hon. Minister for Urban Development is hIIIre. She knows that the gap in our country today is of the order a uniform rate of assistance throughout the country. of one hundred million dwelling units. One hundred Then, there is the question of flow of credit. I am million dwelling units simplY are beyond our national sure that the hon. Finance Minister knows - I need not resources. Therefore, If the hon: Minister were to say give him the data - that the disparities are rising from 229 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Report of Standing CommiNee 230 on Home Affairs State to State, and even within the State between the It should just distribute the kitty and make funds available districts. In fact, it has been pointed out that the benefits to the states. I know what is happening today. What is of the system of differential rates of interest are not happening is that some States are getting a much bigge, reaching out to the people. The hon. Finance Minister share and other States are being left out. That is n()~ !las a list of the districts of minority concentration. I am fair. That Is only adding to the disparities in our country sure that that list has been most unscientifically drawn. and that is leading to an explosive situation. Look at The entire minority population of these districts covers any scheme and you will find this happening - that the only 35 per cent of the total population of the country. money is not finally going to various States in dU'i Why should it be so? This has been done on the basis proportion as it should. The 'only answer is that the of the percentage of the minorities in the total population money that you have for the Central schemes and the of the district instead of taking the absolute population. Centrally sponsored schemes must be divided. It must If you took the absolute population, it would cover a be divided equitably and then the States must be free, larger proportion of the minority population. There are but they must be told that they cannot deviate from the some backward sections which are not receiving the common social priorities that we have laid down. due amount of credit in the rural areas as compared to the urban areas and for certain activities as compared My final point is this. I do not want to go into a to other activities. This has to be looked into. The flow debate on the impact of the policy of liberalisation and of credit has to be adequate in order to give everyone globalisation. All I would caution him about is that they a sense of participation and a sense of belonging. are importing, with globalisation, a certain culture which is dividing this country and which is creating big chasms I would also say that one must keep an eye on the in our society; we are creating two cultures. Many years pattern of national expenditure. I am not asking it to be ago, I read a book about Mexico. At that time, there was taxed - but certainly the flow of expenditure has to be no question of its falling into a debt trap. Now, it has monitored. I think I will not go into a debate whether it fallen into a debt trap. The same thing happened in is of a social expenditure should go up in the totality of Brazil, The sociologists have said that through the national expenditure or whether our defence process of development and IIberalisation, you have expenditure should be cut down. I hope a day comes really created two cultures; and virtually divided the when we can create a zone of peace in the subcontinent nation into two nations and the people into two peoples and our defence expenditure can automatically come whose lives meet only at particular points they really down and thus make more funds available for the social did not partake. equally and did not interact as the and economic development of the country. citizens of a common State should. This must be avoided. But, I would still feel that the policy-makers must I am sure that the hon. Finance Minister realises this keep in view as to how and where the national threat, this implicit threat. Therefore this pressure for expenditure is going. Is it going for social purpose? Is import of consumer goods, of consumer facilities. of it going merely for subsidising consumption? Is it going foreign fashions, and brands, etc. must be resisted.- for non-productive expenditure? Then only we shall be able to achieve some position. I believe, that under the This country is too poor; the society is too divided present Budget, the social expenditure has suffered. to accept and to absorb all this. Therefore I would The relative outlay on education has come down; and caution him at this point just at my concluding remark, the total of what I would call, the social outlay has - that we must try to see that - whether it Is the question some experts' have said it - has come down as a of assets, whether it is the question of personal income percentage of the total Budget. I hope that the hon. or whether It is the question of patterns of expenditure- Minister will explain the position to us. the gap between the highest and the lowest must definitely and deliberately be brought down. At the least The financial authority Tr,ust be decentrallsed. I wan~ It must not be allowed to expand. to save the hon. Minister from' a lot of unnecessary file work. Once you have allotted the money to a particular Ministry for a definite purpose according to the Budget and once it has been approved by the Parliament, I 18.14 hr•. believe that they should have complete freedom and autonomy In making their ends mee~. I do not think that STANDING COMMITTEE ON HOME AFFAIRS for any expenditure, they should again come back .to you. Some such procedure should be evolved which Elght ••nth Report reduces the movement of files and therefore reduces th~ time-span taken for the execution of a project or the (Eng/ish] Implementation of a scheme.,Slmllarly, I believe that the SHAI DHAAAMPAL SINGH MALlK'(Sonepat) : I be: entire concept of Central schemes and Centrally to lay on the Table a copy (Hindi and English versions, • sponsored schemes. must be done away with. If the of the Eighteenth Report of tile Committee on Home sch.me Is to b. Implemented by or through the State Affairs on the Criminal Law A""mandment Bill, 1995. Government .Ith.... wllolly or partially funded centrally then.ln that case, the,Centre should wash Its hands off. 231 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 232 18.14Yz hr•. publicity. We do not say to the people what we are doing. Mr. Jaswant Singh had also objected to some BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE Urdu verses which our Finance Minister had used at the end 01 his Budget speech. i really do not know Fiftieth Report whether he is opposed to the language of Urdu or he [English] is opposed to our Finance Minister making his speeches very lively by introducing some couplets of Urdu. This THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF is a point which has no policy or principle. Then, why DEFENCE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY should he object to such small things? The~ do riot OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): some biggerothings to oppose. So, they seem to oppose I beg to present the Fiftieth Report of the Business such small points. Actually, I feel that Opposition does Advisory Committee. not seem to have anything erse to object qr criticise under the prevailing circumstances when the progress and development 01 the country is taking place due to FINANCE BILL 1995 - CONTD. the fine Budget. Economic development had been there. There is no doubt about it. The whole world is looking SHRI B. AKBER PASHA : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, at us with envy and appreciating it. have come forward' support the Finance Bill. This This Budget has mar.y reliefs. In indirect taxes, the year's Budget, as the ..,revious four Budgets brought by excise duty on many mass consumption items is our eminent Finance Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh, is lowered. Just now, Mr. Syed Shahabuddin was saying a popular Budget, highly appreciated by one and all 01 that it has got to be totally cut out. But he has lowered us, except the Opposition who call it an election-oriented II. A number of items will cost less except cigarette and Budget. This means, they actually. seem to approve the cement, according to the present Budget. Budget. The only thing is that they say that it is an election-oriented Budget. They are appreciating the The inflatation rate has come down from 17 per Budget indirectly. This is an industry investment friendly cent in 1991 to single digit. Today it stands at about Budget with thrust on liberalisation and globalisation. It 8.49 per cent, as I could see the newspaper. Some contains many ingredients of a pattern of economic other friend was objecting by stating ~how they are growth. From less than one per cent economy - I will calculating? Is It on wholesale basis or on nitall basis?' just quote a few figures - in the year 1991-92, it has and things like that. The fact remains that for a short accelerated to 5.37 per cent in 1994-95. This is a span of time our inflation reached double digits but it marvellous achievement. Industrial growth had has again come down to single digit, that is, 8.49 per collapsed to almost less than one per cent in 1991-92 cent. but now it is 8.77 per cent - highly commendable. Our Finance Minister had a 'number of innovative Similarly, foodgrain production jumped from 168 million new scllemes for rural poor - four far-reaching tonnes in 1991-92 to 185 million tonnes. Some of my programl!\es for the general weHare of the poor viz., friends were telling that China is producing more The National Midday-Meal Scheme, Rupees seventy foodgrains than us. But I would like to tell them that our five Minlmum Pension for the poor, one million subsidised country got Independence in 1947 when we had a houses for the rural people, and Rural Social Insurance population of 400 millions including the three countriea Scheme. And yet they call it 'it is only the rich man's of India, Pakistan nd Bangladesh. What was the Budget'. Not only that. This year 'ne has allocated Rs .. condition at that tin .'. We were importing loodgralns 7,000 crore for rural development In place of Rs. 3,000 from piaces like Rangoon, Singapore and other places. crore. Can they criticise It as the 'rich man's Budget'? But now, with 900 million population in India, we are This rural development. is going to bflnefit only the poor not only seH-sufficient. but .we have come to the stage people. This thing easy even criticised by one of our of ~xporting foodgrains. Our external debt was rising at partymen In one of the Informal meetings that took place ·"e rate 01 8 billion dollars a year. Now II is less that In the Central HaU, But I say, this Is goiong to percolate ':"9 billion dollars. Our foreign currency reserves have to the poorman .only. We start an industry. That takes "sen from one billion dollars to 21 billion dollars. These quite a long time, say about two years, for II to get a'@ all our achievements. And there are many more established, another two years for the Industry to reach v. h E'vements made by our wonderful Finance Minister. the break,even pOints. Then, It starts giVing results. - "ese are facts which hurt the Opposition. Similarly, the wondeiful schemes and the programmes wilich our Finance Minister haa brought forward are ! we. hearing the speech of Mr. Jaswilnt Singh the goiAg to percolate to the poor people In the course of ')the, day. He was objecting that our Finance Minister was talking of his own achievements every time he time. produces the Budget. Why can't he talk so? It is an One more thing, As, 5900 cror. fertiliser subsidy achievement and it has got to be talked about. In fact, for 1"5-96 compared to the original Budget estimates t mwe been telling ·our Prime Minister that we lack to Rs. 4000 cror. haa been'.aHocated this year. I would 233 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 234 like to draw the attention of our Finance Minister to two not taken note of it. Tanning extract is used by small things concerning the industry at present. Tanning scale sector. Oniy smail tanners are making use of it. Industry is grateful to our Flnanc~ Minister for having The import duty was also brought down from 65 per removed the five per cent export duty whereas he has cent to 20 per cent in the Union Budget for the year removed the seven per cent export duty on rougti 1993-94 with a view to provide relief to the small tanners. granites. But this year, he has removed it. But I think the While doing so, the Government also appreciated the happiness seems to be short lived. While he has fact that the domestic availability of wattle extract is removed the export duty, he has introduced a five per only 25 per cent of the total requirement of the tanning cent development duty. So, the small tanners seem to industry in the country. I beg to point out that there is . stand where they stood. There had been no no case for the protection of the domestic manufacturers improvement for it. of the wattle extracts because of the fact that there are only two producers of wattle extract in the country, viz. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MANMOHAN the Tan India limited and the Anbu Wattle Extract Private SINGH) : There is no duty that I had imposed. No Limited, Madras. And they produce only 25 per cent of development duty, I have introduced. the total requirement. The duty that has been reduced SHRI B. AKBAR PASHA : It has been circulated in is reimposed because of these two people's iobbylng our Association, Sir. with the Finance Minister. I request that in the interest SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH: That is a different thing. of the small tanners, it may be reduced to the old level That is not the part of the Finance Bill. I do not know of 1993-94, that is to 20 per cent. about it. I would like to conclude with these suggestions which I made on behalf of the Industry. I happen to be SHRI B. AKBER PASHA: But anyway, this is hurting the President of the Tanners Association, Madras. There the tanners. What they seemed to have gained, they have been a lot of representations coming to me to seem to have lost it. In this respect, I would humbly suggest that the small tanners may be levied one per raise this matter and present the tanners' view to the cent or two per cent for the development fund and not Finance Minister, It is indeed fortunate for me that both five per cent on export of finished leathers. Five per the Union Finance Minister and the Minister of State for cent development duty is too much. Finance are present in the House. I request them to take note of my suggestions and extend the required Another thing, I would also like to point out rs about help to the small tanners. the STC. Earlier, the STC was levying one per cent duty MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : That shows the on the export of semi-tanned E.!. leathers ie., East India semi-tanned leathers. This money was utilised for Importance of your subject. production of service centres. I am sorry to say that all SHRI B. AKBAR PASHA: Thank you Sir. With these these service centres, today, are the failures. words, I thank the Chair for giving me an opportunity to Therefore, I suggest that the proposed development participate in the debate. duty of five per cent be reduced to one per cent. My [Translation] another suggestion is that the money that is accrued by this process of one per cent fund may be utilised for the SHRI BHOGENDRA .JHA (Madhubanl) : Mr. Deputy maintenance of effluent treatment plants for ecological Speaker, Sir, my turn has come so late. that I do not feel reasons, which is very much needed. Now I find that like speaking now. Even then, I start trom where my the five per cent development fund is being handed friend Shri Shahabuddin concluded. I want to quote over the CLE - Council for Leather Exports, I do not from the signed edltoral of the Statesman of 21st May, know how they are going to utilise the I1)Oney. But I feel 1995. One or two points made in the editorial affect our ecology must be taken care of and this money could be culture. I will read one or two lines and give the well utilised for th8 maintenance of effluent treatment newspaper tor the ready reference to the hon. Finance plants. Minister. Shrl Arvlnd Kumar, who went to Bombay in I would also like to bring 01;18 more suggestion to connection with the interview for the appointment of corresp:mdentfor Stateaman, writes it. the notice of the hon. Finance Minister. On behalf of the In tanners I would like to make a suggestion for. the [Eng/ish] withdrawal of the countervailing duty reimposed on essential. tanning extracts like the wattie extract, He said, "at lea8t one of the candidates were quebracho extract, chestnut extract, etc. In the Union uninterested In what a 'Statesman' could offer. On the Budget for 1994-95, the excise duty on domestic wattle contrary, he was prepared to pay us a monthly sum for eXJract was .Iso Increased from 15 to 20 per cent the privilege of being our financial correspondent. Now simultaneously, The Council for Leather Exports, Madras that was surprise and led to obvious questions" had submitted a pre-budget memorandum for 1995-96 {TraM/etlan] to the Government and pleaded tor immediate r.storation of the .xemption. Hon. Finance Minister has He has· glven caption to It, 235 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 236 [English] Exactly the same thing happened with me on 7th 'Off to the Market to buy a few journalists'. May also, when I had to go to Jammu via Calcutta. The Indian Arilines flight was cancelled and I had to fly to [Trans/ation] Jammu by Sahara India flight by taking ticket again. It happened in Patna also when the regular flight of Indian He has written in next sentence when a Airlines was cancelled and I was asked to go from correspondent was called - a thousand he gave an Patna by Sahara India flight by purchasing ticket. expression based on his personal experience - according to him, the consultant told him that one Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this thing has happened thousand rupees were being given - twice during the month of May. I am worried, I did not have experience of air travel. I had the experience of [English} buses. When a buses of the State Corporation and We are offering Rupees one thousand today - private bus is plying on the road, the driver of the State Corporation delibrately makes the bus late so as to [Trans/ation] enable the private bus to run ahead of it. Either the The interview was in the Taj Hotel of Bombay. The conductor will delay in issuing the tickets or will sleep food etc. will be in addition to it but the Correspondent in the bus if the passengers ask the conductor to run told that Rupees one thousand is being offered. the bus. Thus the private bus will always run in profit. This is happening in the case of private airlines. The It is not a very pleasant thing. Though we know the private· airlines are threatening the existence of correspondents a little bit - things like this have been Government air lines. So much degradation they are happening to some extent but now It is being practiced facing. Right for journalism to every thing on life, is' to such large extent today. Statesman is a leading daily facing deterioration. I urge upon the hon. Finance of the country. He himse", has gone for interview, may Minister to consider it seriously. We have lost a very be perhaps he is in the Editorial Board. I have cited two precious things in the hope of getting something which things from the article. I do not want to go into details. Is not durable, rather very. dangerous. But whatever he has felt and wrote, I am not able to understand that. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in Mutshell under our economic policies, the Government aims giving relief in [English] the custom duty so that the imported goods may be "The lobby of the venerable Taj Mahal hotel, available here at cheap prices and we are imposing in the mind, I conjured up the visions of higher excise duty on our own products to make costly .. Sonagachi and G. -S. Road." That is why I referred to the East India Company and said that England and France protected their industries [Trans/ation] and trade when these were faCing danger. We have My friend Shrl Chitta Basu must be knowing that seen that USA has increased custom duty on the Sonagachl, in Calcutta is known for Its brothels. The Japanese goods. As the Japanese cars are popular in journalist· has written it with great sensitivity. U.S.A., it has increased the custom duty in the name of COincidentally, only yesterday. ... (Interruptions) World Trade Organisation. We were told that we are joining this World Trade Organisation. The Dunkel Draft [English] and the GATT have been metamorphised into World SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat) : Sir, he.is under an Trade Organisation and we have signed It. Like a dictator, wrong impression about me. I know that there Is a USA has increased custom duty on Japanese cars place called Sonagachi in Calcutta. But I need not know without consulting any country with a view to punish more than that. Japan as their sales would be affected by increase in their prices. Now, you can think what will be the position . [Trans/arion] of WTO. India is yet not an economically strong nation SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : I am quo)ing the but it has signed the treaty to join this organisation I journalist. I am not going into detail. would urge upon the hon. Finance Minister, that tomorrow while making his reply here he should at Today only I have come from Calcutta. A new Airline least raise voice as a member country of WTO, against has been introduced. Though my ticket was confirmed U.S.A. for the unjust act done by.1t in relation to Japan. and I was the first person to reach theIr, even then I was Though I have no soft corner for the capitalists of Japan asked to go· to Economic class, and then to E)(ecutlve but still I want the hon. Minister to say that India treats class. My ticket was for Executive class. I can never this act of USA as unjustified. dream of It travelling in this class on my own expenses. Thereafter it was found that there was no seat in that [English] flight and ther,fore 44 passengers were sent In Modiluft flight. The amount of my tI~ket was not refunded to me. SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH : This has no relation to Today ·1 got It cancelled and encashed their cheques. the Finance Bill. 237 Finance Bi/l, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Finance Bill, 1995 238 (Translation] SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH: Is there any country in the world where prices are not going up? SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : It is a fundamental question. The European Union is also protesting against SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : The prices are going up '. it. Our country is also a member of World Trade all over the world but where do we stand now? Organisation. What will happen to us when country like ... (Interruptions) Our independent country has been Japan is treated this way? They are raking up the issue turned into a slave country. That is why I am warning of readymade garments. At present we have no you not to go on that way. Do not follow the way of Mir alternative. A new big danger which has cropped up in Zalar and Adison. The Adison phobia has spread today' matters of exports and imports is not a good sign. throughout the world. We should maintain self-respect and a sense 01 patriotism. Adison had been instrumental My friend, Shri Akbar Pasha just now said that mica in cancellation of cryogenic ~ngine agreement with us. and raw leather is exported. Bihar abounds in both People. there still condemn him for this act. So, you these things. We exports pig iron to Japan via Goa. should not quote bad examples. I would like the Finance Can we not export only finished goods? We can export Minister to do something on the price front. We give finished goods for earning foreign exchange. Why remunerative prices to the farmers. Otherwise, they will should we export raw material? I think you will look into not be able to produce foodgrains. We talk of supplying these suggestions. foodgrains to the consumers at cheap prices. Then some Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, now I come to the issue of State Governments come forward to supply rice at foreign exchange. About 3-4 years ago, foreign Rs. 2/- per kg. and ask for money from the Central exchange position was very unsatisfactory. The hon. Government. Some others agree to supply that item Finance Minister must be knowing that when India was even at Re. 1/- per kg. If the Government resort to not free but it was on the verge of getting freedom, pointing of more and more currency notes that will push England owned a debt to India in the matter of foreign up the rate of inflation. Therefore, I am of the opinion exchange. The sterling balance. that a one-time price policy may be chalked out for the benefit of the primary producers and the consumers. [English] There should be no middlemen. It can be fixed at 20 or SHRI MAN MOHAN SINGH : It was during Second 25 or 30 per cent but it should not exceed beyond that World War because of the abnormal conditions in order to safeguard the interests of the consumers. prevailing then. The subsidy on power, water, seeds, fertilizers and agricultural implements should be fixed in order to put [Translation] a check on rate of inflation. You can successfully check the price rise through an integrated price policy and by SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : I am talking about the resorting to Public Distribution System. The infrastructure Second World War. The debt was then on pounds since of this Distribution System is available here and the the dollar was not so strong at that time. We were the people are also mentally prepared. That is why, the creditors and the England was the debtor. The vast Government is facing difficulty in implementing the WTO reserve of foreign exchange alone cannot be the criteria agreement. I would like you to follow an integrated of our development. That is why I have given this price policy and exercise control over the banks. The example. banks advance loans to the profiteers easily but not to Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I took part in the symposium the small producers. If the production will be more, the organised by the MithUa University. There, the teachers prices will be kept under control and the price rise will and professors expressed the view that the prices were decline. But the profiteers and wholesale traders going down, but there was no decline in the market purchase the goods with the money taken from the prices. Some of our friends have pointed out that the banks and dump them in their godowns. Then the prices were going up, then how the prices can come economics of Adam Smith, Marshall and Keyns are down? Generally, the prices go up. The variation in the quoted that there is less production and more rate of inflation does not affect the consumers. This is consumers, hence price rise. The primary producer and the final year of this Government. The ruling party had the consumer do not get any benefit but the wholesale promised to bring down the prices within 100 days. Did dealers, who have nothing to do prosper on our money. they do It? The prices have rather Increased during It ·results in inflation-and deficit financing. The banks these five years. I would like the hon. Finance Minister should advance money only for augqmenting to admit clearly that the ruling party has failed to fulfil production. The small and medium industries as well as its promise. Will. the hon. Minister assure us today that cottage industries should be given more encouragement. with the present economic poliCies, the budget and the If the banks are not restrained, for doing so the objective Finance Bill, the prices will not increase further? I do of nationaliSing them will not be achieved. If somebody not say and hope that the prices will come down but it asks me about the biggest achievement of the fourth should be ensured that at least the prices will not go up lok Sabha, it was, no doubt, nationalisation of banks and remain the same by the end of this financial year? due to which Shrlmati Indira Gandhi was' expelled from 239 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 240 the Congress. But now the very purpose of nationalising would like to hon. Finance Minister to use his economic the banks seems to be failing. The banks do not expertise for the welfare of the country and make banks advance money in the name of production. I would like a powerful means for achieving its objective. to emphasize that India is country of 90 crore people The Regional Rural Banks are facing a crisis. There and we should strengthen these 1BO crore hands. We was a proposal for setting up of a National Rural Bank should invest more money in power sector and Organisation. I would like you to make clear your policy manufacturing agricultural implements. Concessions in this regard. I do not want that the banks become a have been given in the budget for the import of eye and burden on the country. Some employees came to me ear equipments. Why do not we import machines for the but I told them to make the unit viable. However, I do manufacture of these equipments in the country itself? not know if somebody among us may declare next time We import heart valves from U.S.A., though now its that they will write off loan upto Rs. 20 thousand. production has started here, I want to emphasize that ... (Interruptions) I will not go into this. I am just referring we should import the basic things. Which are not to two points. available with us. Otherwise, we will not be able to free ourselves from the web of import and export. I would urge that the banker, the bank manager, and the branch manager should be made responsible In this context, the Government is making efforts to for thfi! loans. The Government should intervene after do away with the Indian Patents Act. It is true that its every 3 or 6 years and should see where has the provisions clash with WTO. I was a Member of Lok money been put to use. For example, in Madhubani Sabha when.this Act was passed in 1973. My submission and Darbhanga districts, the money was pocketed by is that by putting restrictions on patenting, you are the bank, the block officials and.the beneficiary itself. hampering scientific development of developing Therefore, a farmer who pockets the money meant for countries. Please raise your voice against it. It is not seeds cannot be called a true farmer. It is, a fact that that the last word has been said and there can be no even the farmers, the poor and the workers are also alternative. We should continue our struggle for this pocketing the money given to them. Whatever money is cause and instead of importing equipments, we should given as loan, is not utilized for increasing production. go in for purchase of a basic machines. Three years ago, I had placed certain documents The hon. Finance Minister has given some on the table of this House. The hon. Finance Minister suggestions. Indigenous industries are vanishing had then got them examined by his Department as well gradually. Some members have raised the issue of Hatia as the Reserve Bank of India and it was found that the which has the capacity of setting up one Bokaro like money meants for 1 B,OOO landless Harijans was plant every year. The Government should ask the officers pocketed by the bank people in Bihar without paying and workers 'there to do some more sacrifice. I am not even a single penny to the beneficiaries. However the in favour of closure of this factory. I have worked and Harijans in the Chhahar village of Khajoli block in lived for the welfare of the workers throughout my life Madhubani district were adamant and now.a case is and I do not feel ashmed to say that the workers should pending in the court. Under such circumstances, they be paid from the Government treasury. We want this are giving evidence by selling their belongings. On the factory to become viable. This factory did not get any other hand, they are receiving notices for recovery of orders for many years since imports were being made loan. They have come to me time and again for help. from abroad. J'IIow, it has become a sick unit. I tokl them everytime that since the bank was at fault, it would repay the loan amount. The the.n manager of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Shri Chitta Basu has that bank has now been promoted, to a higher post. He also to speak on it. paid Rs. 5000/- to an old lady who came forward to SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : You have given me time give evidence. Surprisingly she told In the court that to speak at night. Please give me some more time. I she was paid Rs. 5000/- f,?r giving evidence. This had. not insisted upon to speak today. You could have statement was recorded by the court. However, when given me time tomorrow also. she came out of the court, Rs. 5000/- was taken back I want to submit that the unemployed people should from her. Should such as officer stili hold office? I have be given some work. The skill and ability of the youth not seen him. Yet nor did he dare to say anything to me. should be exploited optimum. They should be trained In I would like some administrative action to be taken suitable skills which can be put to domestic use. The against him. It is regretting that the bank officer is still new generation of agriculture workers do not want to there and trying to corrupt other people also. The use old implements such as harrow etc. I request that witn~ses are spending money to go to court for hearing. the marginal farmers or the agricultural workers having I urge upon the Government to become liberal In the less than one acre of land and who are interested in matters of financial assistance. . self-employment should be helped and encouraged by The remaining work of the Rajasthan canal should giving them money. The money thus invested will be completed at the earliest. The Narmada Sagar project increase production and it will not lead to In1latlt9n. ! should not be delayed due to money. It will be good for 241 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTH~ I, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 242 / the nation if the work scheduled to be completed in 10 Sir, the Government and particularly the Finance years is completed in 2 years. Similarly, there are Tehri Minister, for when I have got the highest regard, claims dam project, Karnali river project as well as Kosi river that there has been upswing in the economy because project which, when completed, can produce a lot of of the New Economic Policy. Sir, this is a myth and this '. electricity and hydro-electricity for the country. I am of requires to be explored. the view that projects should be completed in time and funds should not act as hinderance since due to delay Sir, I am opposed to- this Bill because of the very fact that the proposals which this Bill contains are the cost of the projects also overrun. basically based on, basically rests on the prinCiples of The western Kosi Canal project was started 30 the New Economic Policy. Therefore, unless we can years ago. The work on this canal from Nepal side has . really evaluate the negative and also - I agree to already been completed. An allocation of As. 20 crores concede - the positive results of this New Economic was made three years ago and As. 20 crores last year. Policy, I think, that cannot become the main basis of our This year As. 30 crores have been allocated for this Economic Policy for the nation's progress and prosperity. purpose but not even rupees one crore has been spent so far. My hon. colleague Shri Shahbuddin is not present Sir, I have got certain facts at my disposal and they here. The Chief Minister of Bihar has written that no relate to the actual consequence of the New Economic work will be done unless the Central Government Policy for the last four years on the life of our people. sponsors this project. It is causing a great loss to the Sir, the Indian poverty profile is much shocking and country. The Central Government should pay attention heart rending. The World Bank's survey fin~s that 6.5 to it. per cent children under five years of age are The practice of illegal usury is going on in every undernourished. This estimate suggests that 30 per cent city and in every village and the provisions of the Money of the poor of the world live in India. Can your New Land Act are being violated everywhere. The Economic Policy bring about a basic change in this Government should take measures to check it. The toiling reality of Indian life? millions should get their due. Lakhs of people go to According to the National Council of Applied Punjab and Haryana for work but one-fourth of their Economic Research, hardly two to three per cent of the income go in repaying loans. The Government should people had an annual income of Rs. 78,000. And the either do away with this law or put an end to the practice NEP has not made any dent into this frightening proverty of money lending. Many years ago, a Paigambar was born on earth. He had said that if anybody takes a of the Indian life. Yet, you claim and nobody accepts penny as interest, he cannot be called a true Muslim that there has been upswing in the economy of our even if he prays five times a day. ... (Interruptions) We country. should manufacture such a pumping set which can Sir, I may be permitted to quote from the UNDP's operate without power and diesel and the farmers could Human Development Report 1994. It says : be benefited by it. I do not hope that the State Government will do something in this direction because "The rural poor more than a third of the India's their funds are spent on other things. I would urge upon people are paying a price for reforms but not the hon. Finance Minister to do something in this regard. yet seeing any benefit." That is all I have to say. They say that 30 per cent of our population is paying a price for reforms but not getting any benefit out of [English} them. I am going to purchase something from the market. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKE A : My request is that each I paid the price for It but I did not get back anything. This political party has been alloted the time for the debate, is the magic of the New Economic Policy. so you please take that also into consideration. Sir, the National Sample Survey of 1992 says: I think, we shall sit for some more time. There are "During 1990-92, the share of consumption other han. Members and they also want to partiCipate. of the bottom 30 per cent of rural population Let us just sit for half-an-hour more because tomorrow feel from 16 per cent of 15.6 per cent and for the time Is short and It will be very difficult. So Shrl the bottom 30 per cent of urban poor, the Chitta Basu will start his speech now. share dipped from 13.4 per cent to 13.17 per 19.00 hr•• cent. The middle strata of the population, both in urban and rural sectors, saw a SHAI CHITTA BASU : Sir, In all humility I rise to reduced consumption and only the top thirty oppose the Bill and the reaSon, I think, he can per cent remained gainers." ... (Inttl"utions) undel'lltand. I would only say that the Government should now take a lesson from the reality of the situation outside SHRI MAN MOHAN SINGH : This is about 1990-92. and review the situation and come to a certain What else did you expect In the. year of crisis? conclusion. ...(Interrutions) 243 FinanC9 Bill, 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Financ9 Bill. 1995 244 SHRI CHITA BASU : That means, you are conceding I have other facts of say. The per capita net to my proposition that it has not brought about any availability of foodgrains has declined to 465.6 gms. basic change in the life of the common man per day in 1994-95 from 510.1 gms in 1991-92. This is ... (Interrutions) also from your figures. SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH : You are just misusing Despite the commendable increase in foodgrain the statistics. It is about 1991-92. What else? production on account of seven good mOl'soons consecutively, the per capita availability of cloth also SHRI INDER JIT (Darjeeling) : The Finance Minister has declined to 23.7 metres in 1992-93 from 24.1 metres says that you are misusing the statistics. in 1990-91. What is the sign of improvement so far as SHRI CHITTA BASU : No, I am saying that under the consumption of the worst level of our-society is the NEP. the lot of the people has not been improved. concerned? Yes, I accept the Finance Minister's That is my pOint...(lnterrutions) suggestions that there may be an official study about it. I demand such a study. [Translation] Sir, again, I have to quote another figl;lre. The This is position of 1992. It has not emproved from percentage of population below the poverty line has that of 1991. increased to 40.69 per cent in 1992-93 from 35 per cent in 1990-91. In absolute terms, this denotes a rise [English] in the number of poor by 50.million In rural India. The SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH : We have given all in urban population rose to 37.74 per cent from 37 per the Economic Survey Report. You do not study. You cent. The UNDP (1991) estimated 410 million people in study it only. India to be below the poverty line . ... (Interruptions) So SHRI CHITTA' BASU : Whatever might be your what is the position today in absolute number? There policy, what is now? is not even any progress in respect of that. My contention is that the claim of the Government that the NEP has SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH : We have given all in brought about an upswing in the Indian economy, is not the Economic Survey. a reflection of the reality of the Indian life, particularly, SHRI CHITTA BASU : Do you claim that there has in so far as the lower strata of our society is concerned, been improvement in the lot of the common man? I irrespective of whatever may be the claim of the cannot accept this. Government. SHRI MAN MOHAN SINGH: Do you challenge those The Government also claim that there has been an figures. increase in the budgetary allocation in certain spheres. As far as Rural Development is concemed, in SHRI INDER JIT : He says you are using the figures percentage terms, there h'as been 10 per cent Increase. in a select way ... (Interrutions) But what has been increase of the' inflation? It was SHRI CHITTA BASU : No. The same statistics has admitted some time back that 11 per cent was the rate been distorted and he is trying to justify his point of of inflation and now you claim that there has been view. If that is so, let there be a committee; let threre be certain decline. Even if I accept that the rate of Inflation an institution which can really find out my charge that is 8.5 per cent or 8.6 per cent then also the allocation whether during the NEP period, had there been any is negative. Then in terms of total Investment it is not 1 0 change in the economic life of the worst section 01 our per cent, it is less than that. If there has been some' people of our country. Let there be a particular study increase in budgetary allocation, this is also very about it and let it say as a result of this study, this has marginal in nature. That is also given in case of Health happened. But unless that study is done, I think the and Family WeHare. The increase has been only 3.05 Government's claim cannot be. accepted by the House. per cent. As the rate of Inflation Is 8.6 per cent this is SHRI INDER JIT : I hope you are not asking for also a negative increase. So far as women and children another JPC. are concerned, there has been no Increase in the actual investment in these areas despite the mounting inflation. SHRI CHITTA BASU : I think you are proposing In the case of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes, because you know the fate of the JPC. The JPC's there are always crocodile tears that the Government recommendations will not be accepted. always shed. In 1994-95 Rs. 275 crore was given for MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please come to the the improvement of the lot of Scheduled Castes and subject. Scheduled Tribes, but It has been reduced to Rs. 273.75 crore this year. What does it mean? EVen the claim for SHRI CHITTA BASU : Therefore, my basic point Is increased budgetary allocation for the Social WeHare that there has been no improvement in the lot of the common people because of the introduction of the New sector is not borne out by the Feality of the situation. Economic Policy. It has not brought abol:t any change I. want to draw the attention of the Gov~rnment to In the poor section of the society. a disastrous aspect which Is the debt position. I have 245 Finan.ce Bill. 1995 JYAISTHA 1. 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill. 1995 246 also collected the figures given by him. Our debt position PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : Yes, Sir. as on 14.3.1995 is Rs. 5,41,800 crore. I have seen a MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I have already told that report of the C&AG which says that there has been an the names should come from the Whips only. Just ~ncrease in the foreign debt at the rate of Rs. 9 crore because the Chair is accommodating you, you cannot per hour! What will happen? What about the interest send your names to the Chair as and when you like. payment? Last year it has been about Rs. 44,000 crore and this year it is going to be bigger and next year it [Translation] is going to be still bigger. What will happen? We will have to take more money from the International Monetary PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT Shri Khanduri had Fund or from outside to pay-off the interest component sent my name. of our debt payment. If it is not a debt trap what else [English] it? You borrow money and pay-off a part of the debt, which is an interest component. That means we are MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: All right. I am sending already in the del;lt. Would the hon. Minister of Finance the list to you. You can verify it with your Whip. kindly explain tomorrow as t9 what is the real situation about it? Are we already in the debt trap? Are we [Translation] nearer the debt trap? How far are we away from the SHRI RAM TAHAL CHOUDHARY (Ranch i) : Sir, I debt trap? Can we at all avoid this debt trap? rise to oppose the Finance Bill. When Shri Manmohan Singh became the Finance Minister, the people of the I introduced a Private Member's Bill earlier in this House that there should be a limit to debts. Can a country had high hopes from him and expressed their Government be allowed to borrow as much as they like faith in him. If we go through the budget, we find that on the basis of their own whims and on the basis of the rural and poor masses have not been benefited their own desire or on their own assessments? much from his budgetary proposals. We were talking about subsidy to the farmers by they get the fertilizers, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri Chitta Basu, there pesticide etc. at very high prices. Further the prices of are one or two other Members who want to speak. every agricultural input has gone up tremendously. As Kindly oblige. regards old age pension, people have not been paid SHRI CHITTA BASU : Yes, Sir, I am concluding. old age pension in Bihar during the last one year. Finally I would request that since the Constitution So far as rural development is concerned, India is provides to put up a limit on the foreign borrowings, I a country where agriculture is the predominent think, the Government should move a legislation or profession. There has been no development in any of accept my Bill saying that the Parliament has got control the fields during the last four years. As regards HEC, over the overall national economy of the country. I want Nehruji had termed it a mother industry, where that my other colleagues shoUld also speak., So, in thousands of allied industries run and which is a source deference to your wishes, I am concluding. of livelihood for thousands of workers. Bunglings worth crores of rupees are reported from there. However, an MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : That is your grace. amount to the tune of Rs. 300-400 crores as SHRI CHITTA BASU : That is also my duty. Our recommended by the committee for its revival is not colleagues can also give expressions to their views. being sanctioned. I would not go into details due to Sir, in spite of my best regards for him, in spite of paucity of time. I would urge upon the hon. Finance my highest esteem for him, ultimately I am a person, I Minister to pay attention to this industry and make every am an Indian citizen and I am an Indian patriot and I possible effort to save it. Whatever little money is given must defend him. I cannot allow the country to be by the Central Government goes in repaying loan and allowed to pursue a disastrous path, as this Bill indicates. the industry does not get anything. . Therefore, once again I reiterate my opposition to There has been no rural electrification during the this Bill. last four years. As a result thereof, the faith of the people on the Government has shattered. Whenever MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri Ram Tahal we approach the power authorities, they take the excuse Choudhary. of non-availability of funds. The funds 'given under the Employment Scheme have been utilised to some extent [Translation] but corruption has increased to a great height. There is PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : I am sitting here a need to undertake review of the utilisation funds once since 4 o'clock. My name has not been called. Shrl in a year. In case of irregularity, stringent action should Kalka Das had sent my name in writing. be taken. It has been observed that funds given to Bihar under a particular head are diverted to some [English] other heads. The most surprising fact is that even the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Okay. Shall I send the list funds given for scholarships to SC/ST students do not to you so that you can verify your name In the list? reach them. 247 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 248 Even after 47 years of India's Independence, the earn their livelihood. We have provided very limited r.ural areas do not have the facility of electricity and irrigation facilities to our farmers. Our agriculturists roads. The people are demanding a separate state of depend on rainy water. When monsoon fails, the entire Chhota Nagpur and Vananchal in Bihar. The Government area comes under. the grip of severe drought. has been receiving a large amount of royalty from that This has become a regular phenomena. Sir, over area. This area abounds in factories and mines, but 80 per cent of the cultivable land of my constituency, there are no proper roads, It is surprising that a road Sundargarh, in Orissa have not been provided with from Sili to Chandil via Vorenda has been under irrigation facilities. The entire district is facing acute construction for the last 30 years. Once it is completed, problem of drinking water. I request the Government, to the people will have to cover less distance of 100 take on a war footing basis, to supply drinking water to kilometres and there will be less fuel consumption also. the people of my district. An Agricultural Research It would further help those people who have to live in Centre may kindly be established at Bargaon in my a island like situation for six months. However, this road constituency. is still to be completed. A proposal for sanction of a sum of Rs. Nine crore In Bihar, everything is not well on education front, has been sent by the State Government to the Centre If there are student in a school, the building is not there and if there is a school building, as many on '40 to 50 for implementation of Arba-Jhorabahal Community posts of teachers are lying vacant. There is a need to Irrigation Project under Panposh ITDA. The Centre had 3.58 1994-95. set the system right. God knows what is in store for us sanctioned Rs. crore during I request the on future there. There is no electricity for 10-12 hours Welfare Ministry, through you, to sanction the remaining a day. The industrialists are shifting their industries from Rs. 5.42 crore and release the amount at the earliest there. So, priority should be given for ensuring adequate in order to complete the project, as this will irrigate over supply of water and electricity for the development of 7,000 acres of land benefitting hundreds of tribal the rural areas there ... (lnterruptions) families. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Sir, kindly give me a Sir, the creation of new Rural Infrastructural couple of minutes more. Development Fund with a Corpus of Rs. 2,000 crore created within the National Bank for Agriculture and {English] Rural Developemnt in order to complete on-going irrigation projects and soil conservation will have a far- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I obliged you. You should reaching impact in rural economy. also oblige the Chair. You have seen that I was put to criticism. Sir, the han. Finance Minister has rightly observed (Interruptions) that infrastructure is another area of potential weakness. the State of Orissa in general and my parliamentary [Translation] constituency in particular is rich in mineral resources. But the State is among the most backwards as it lacks SHRI RAM TAHAl CHOUDHARY It is alright. I key infrastructure facilities like power, roads, ports, thank you for giving me time to speak. irrigation, railways, airways and telecommunications. [English] Sir, our policy of economic liberalisation provides KUMARI FRIDA TOPNO (Sundargarh) : Mr. Deputy for five years tax holidays for industrial houses 'going in Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill, 1995. I for setting up industries in tribal areas. But due to the congratulate our han. Finance Minister for presenting a lack of these facilities not a single industrial house has growth-oriented Budget that realises the twin objectives gone to my constituency in spite of having large mineral of excellence and social justice with a particular focus deposits like iron ore. on poverty. It reflects the basic Government contention The conditions of National Highways in my area that the economy is in a far better position than in 1991. are horrible. The National Highway from Birmltrapur to The Budget has proposed a range of concrete Banerpal needs immediate improvement. Due to heavy measures to boost investment in rural development and traffic, National Highway from Rourkela to Lathlkata in providing direct relief to the poor. needs to be made double line. Sir, 80 per cent of our people live in the villages Though my constituency boasts of having the and depend on agriculture. In the recent past we have prestigious Rourkela Steel Plant, it is not linked with air been giving importance to urban area and industrial service. I have been raising this issue again and again, sectors. Our conception of progress and modernisation but in vain. Unless air service is provided to Rourkela had been of industrialisation with the objective of setting the Industrial houses will not be attracted to my up of major public sectors. Our rural India and agriculture constituency. I appeal to the Government, through you, sector, therefore, got neglected and our rural population to consider for operating air service from Deihl to started moving to cities in search of employment to Rourkela via Calcutta. 249 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 250 Sir, the telecommunication system in my qistrict Sir, last but not least, I draw the attention of the needs immediate attention of the Government. Over 60 hon. Minister that the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled per cent of the existing telephones remain out of order. Tribes of our country are among the poorest members '. There has been deliberate delay in the installation of E/ of our society. The creation of Cooperatives and Regional 108 machines already procured since a year back. All Rural Banks for meeting the credit needs of the Tribals Panchayat headquarters have not been connected with will enable the young educated unemployed youths to \elephones. I request the Government to take necessary stand on their own. I request the Govemment to open steps in this regard. such regional banks in Eastern Region at Rourkela. Sir, many parts of my district are still deprived of The role of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Doordarhsn facilities. Low Power Transmission Centres Fiance Corporation is very much disappointing. The may be installed at Hemgir and Bargaon. Bonal LPT functions of NABARD and Scheduled Castes and Centre may kindly be made operational. To promote Scheduled Tribes Finance Corporation be evaluated tribal culture, a Doordarshan Studio may be established from time to time and be made effective institutions to at Rourkela. help these communties. Sir, the budget proposal for social equity and poverty Sir, once again I thank our hon. Finance Minister alleviation is a laudable step. Programmes like rural for presenting this rural oriented Budget. I support the development, employemnt generation, primary Budget proposals. education and primary health have to be given the highest priority. Our primary education requires topmost [Translation] priority. We do not have school buildings in the villages. Instead of increase in the student strength, there is DR. RAMKRISHNA KUSMARIA (Damoh) : Mr. considerable decline. The rate of dropouts even at the Deputy Speaker, Sir, while rising to oppose the Finance stage of primary education is on the increase. Bill, I would like to draw the attention of the ~on. Finance Minister to certain points. Though our economy is based The implementation of Mid-day Meal Scheme will on agriculture to a great extent, yet due to curtailment certainly attract the rural children. But where there is no of subsidy on fertilizers, the farmers are facing great school building, no sincerity among the teachers to difficulties. Steep increase in prices of the fertilizers, teach, all noble efforts will be 9f no use. I request the has led to increase in production cost. As a result, the Government and this august body to think over this farmers are finding farming unremunerative. If the' issue of national concern. More number of residential Central School and Navodaya Schools be opened in farmers do not get the remunerative price for their the tribal areas. I request the Government to open a produce, no policy of liberalisation, globalisation or Central Schocl at Birmitrapur in Sundergarh district of economic reforms will succeed. The ground reality is Orissa. that the people at grassroot level are not leading a happy life. The poverty has increased in the past and A lot has to be done on primary health in the it will go on increasing in future also. villages. The rate of infant mortality and pre-natal and post-natal mortality of mothers in Orissa is the highest Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are talking about the in the country and my district, Sundargarh in Orissa. improved condition of the citizens, but the fact is that Infants and mothers do not get medical care. I request the masses are facing problems of price rise, hunger, the Government through you Sir, to set up a 'Child and and corruption. Mother Care Centre' in my constituency Sundargarh. Sir, lakhs of workers in the indwstries of the country The introduction of National Social Assistance have been rendered jobless. About 5 lakh industrial Scheme providing for payment of Rs. 75/- to persons units out of 22 lakh units are on the verge of closure. above the age of 65 if implemented with sincerity by The workers are being -retrenched.These industries are State, Governments would benefit our rural old people incurring huge losses due to heavy excise duty. The unattended to an uncared for. multi-national companies are being given concessions Sir, rural housing problem is one of the glaring to set up industrial units here. In this way, if we continue problems before us today. There are hundreds of people to strike at the basic structure of our industrial economy having no land to cultivate, no roof for shelter and no and our culture we will soon lose the seH-reliance which food to eat. Indira Awas Yojana is a very good scheme we have achieved after lot of efforts. to help the poor in providing houses. Our past Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, It has been stated in experience Is that houses constructed under Indira Awas Ramayana, "Darid Sam Nahin Koi Dukh Dooja" while are in secluded areas as if they are meant for describing the concept of Ram Rajya, Tulsidas had siad: untouchables. Provisions for water supply, electrification and ,arnlng of their livelihood are not done for theSe Shri Tulsidas has put down in Ramayana : colonies. As a result of which most of the colonies are "Nahin Koi Dukhi Na Darad Dina, Nahin Koi deserted after few years. I WOUld, therefore, request the Aabodh Na Vidya Heena, Government that while setting these poor people through 'Indira Awas YoJana all other facilities be provided so as Daihik Davlc Shotik Tapa, Ram Raj Nahin to enable them to start a new life. Kahu Syapa·. 251 Finance Bill, 1995 MAY 22, 1995 FinfJnce Bill, 1995 252 That's how a welfare state has been defined if we for higher prices for their produce. The farmers who call ourselves a WeHare State, then we must follow earlier commanded our respect, nowadays they are these principles. But' here the penury plagued country being seen with dubious eyes. is in embittered State. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with these words, I conclude Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just now my hon. friends and thank you. were referring to the dire scarcity of potable water. In my Damoh confltituency which falls in Damoh-Panna {English] Legislative Assembly constituency, water comes once SHRI HARISH NARAYAN PRABHU ZANTYE in four days which amply speak of the condition of civic (Panaji) : Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill, amentities, Kanda is a tribal area. Even after 47 years 1995-96. Hon. Finance Minister richly deserves to be of India's independence, people there are rendered complimented for giving a number of concessions on totally isolated by flood waters during rainy seasons for direct and indirect taxes including 50 per cent reduction four months in the absence of any means of rescue. If in tax deducted at source, for reducing T.D.S. levied in anybody fell ill, he cannot be moved out of that area the Budget for professionals and technical services from and is doomed to die there. This is the plight of our 10 to 5 per cent and payments for advertisement people. What does it reflect, your physical achievements contracts, further liberalisation of tax holiday scheme or scarcity? No measures have been taken to improve for infrastructure projects and import duty exemption on the conditions there. A number of rivers flow in our area 31 life saving drugs. such as Sunar, Vyarana, Kopra, Measin, Kain etc. but I must compliment the hon. Finance Minister for their water is not being utilised. There are many allowing Modvat credit to furnace oil and low sulpher schemes. 80 per cent of the construction work of water heavy stocks and substantial reduction in import duty reservoirs has been completed. The work on the Naba on glass parts, shell of B&W picture tubes, paper and closar has been abandoned. This scheme was started paper board etc. about 20 years ago. Its cost is increasing yet it is to be I am sure these measures would give a boost to the completed. Wherefrom to generate funds for it, economy as these concessions have been allowed on construction material has become costly. There has been the basis of objective scrutiny fo representations ten fold cost escalation. This is how we incurr losses received from industry and Members of Parliament. A and yet we ·talk of economic reforms. variety of concessions announced by the Finance Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the farmers are not getting Minister will contribute further to liberalisation and remunerative prices for their produce. They should be greater competitiveness in the economy. given representation in the Agricultural Prices Extension of Modvat is welcome and bound to result Commission so that they might ensure remunerative in favourable development. The cuts proposed in duty prices on their produce. While addressing a Kisan rally rates, I am sure, will not result in any significant loss of near Red Fort last year, the Prime Minister stated the revenue and in fact would lead to simplification and prices were rising because the farmers were being paid rationalisation of the tax structure. This optimism _is borne more remunerative prices on their produce. out by our experience of last year. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to emphasize that The companies investing in infrastructure sector the farmers have not received remunerative prices on can now choose the five year tax holiday period their produce so far. Their crops are damaged or anywhere within 12 years of commencement of destroyed due to drought, excessive rains and operations. This will certainly act as a big incentive for hailslroms. They are neither paid any compensation nor the companies investing in infrastructure sector such as there is any crop insurance scheme to cover their loss. roads, highways Expressways, New Bridges, airports, But the Prime Minister saying that the cause of price ports and rapid mass transportation systems. rise is remunerative prices paid to the farmers. The The main positive features of the Budget proposals causes for the price rise are different. Ever increasing for 1995-96 are : scandals and scams, corruption, black money are the (i) Retaining the deficit at the level of attributives of skyward trend in prices yet providing Rs. 5,0001- crores. The fiscal deficit would remunerative prices to the farmers is being stated the remain 5.5 of G.D.P. sole cause of it. Further it is said that due to this a misunderstanding has cropped up amongst the farmer (ii) A sharp reduction in Customs with low'er community. The farmers are our foodgrain producers excise duty for a large number of who keep on producing foodgrains even after sustaining manufactured produc~s. Peak rates of loss and therefore they command our respect. The Customs slashed to 50 per cent. statement of the Prime Minister has created a sense of (iii) Raising of Income-Tax exemption limit to Rs. disbelief and doubt about farmers amongst the 40,0001-. With this, individuals with income consumers. They think that the farmers are getting very of Rs. 55,0001-. will not pay any tax. For high prices on their produce and yet they are craving working women It is Rs. 58,0001- 253 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Sakal Flnanc. Bill, 1995 254 (iv) The Central piant outlay has been increased Given the resource constraint, the Finance Minister to Rs. 78,849/- crores Irom Rs. 70,141 crores. has done a wonderful job in presenting the Budget (v) The outlay for Defence has been increased proposal for 1995-96. With effective Implementation. to Rs. 25,000/- crores. mentioning and concurrent evaluation of funding in each sector, ·1 am sure we are bound to achieve the growth (vi) The estimated revenue loss of Rs. 2,4001- targets and emerge stronger with creditable crores as a result 01 substantial cuts in excise achievements. However, I would like to express concern and import duty 01 various items, it is with the Finance Minister and make some observations expected, would be made good through on some points in a spirit of sharing my thoughts to be better realisation. taken note of in terms of their merits and validity as per (vii) To raise the food and other agricultural mature and expert judgement of the Government. production subsidy for fertiliser industry, food Sir, the Corporate circles are dt.appointed since and other subsidy to Rs. 12,400 crores. the surcharge has not been dropped then relief may be The fiscal deficit in the current year has gone up to given by way of incentive on savings and investment 6.7 per cent of GDP agail'\St the anticipated 6 per cent. for salaried class. 1995-96 5.5 The deficit for is estimated at per cent. This A major hike in allocation for Social Weltare could be possible if the growth momentum is maintained. Schemes and formation of Innovative new schemes for In a bid to encourage savings, it is proposed to rural and urbanpoor is a welCome step and if the raise the exemption level of income under Section 80(L) schemes are effectively and .fficiently implemented, from Rs. 10,000 to Rs. 12,000 and TDS from Rs. 10,000 then, there will be great tran.formation in the socio- to Rs. 20,0001- economic life of weaker sectIOns However. from our past experience, the money .llotted for the weaker! There is a substantial increase in budget allocation sections is not reaching the weaker sections defeating for social sectors like education, health and rural the very basic objective. Monitoring and concurrent development schemes and greater emphasis has been evaluation are essential in • gr._t measure to plug the laid on anti-poverty programmes. The total loss to the Centre on account of the various reliefs would be around loopholes and leakages. Accountability has to be fixed for the amount spent on. the above schemes. Rs. 1582 crores. The exemption level of small scale industries for MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri H_rlsh Nary.n enjoying excise duty concession has been raised from Prabhu Zantye, reading is not very much encouraged. Rs. 2 to 3 crore. Formation of new Rural Infraslructural SHRI HARISH NARAYAN PRABHU ZANTYE "know Development Fund within NABARD with a corpus of Rs. that. But I want to make it fast. , would only tak~ two or 2000 crores to encourage quicker completion of projects three minutes. in rural infrastructure has been proposed. NABARD will also open exclusive line of credit to cooperative and Sir, although emphasiS has been laid on prOViding Regional Rural Banks in 100 Tribal districts to ameliorate social equity and povery-alleviation, considerable reliefs the socio-economic conditions of Scheduled Castes and have been in the form of excise and customs duties on Scheduled Tribes. luxury goods/items which would primarily benefit the rich. The Khadi and Village Industries, the backbone of the rural economy, is provided Rs. 1000 crore to finance The lowering of duties on aerated water. air- viable industrial units in rural areas. A provision of Rs. conditioning machinery, cosmetics etc., to mention a 200 crore has also been provided for setting up of a few, will not benefit people who are below the poverty Technology and Modernisation Fund under the SID81 to line. In fact, the,re is, a case for enhancing dutIes on provide financial assistance to quality projects to these and many other such items including alcoholic strengthen the export capacity of small scale industry. drinks which remained untouched. Enough revenue could be moblised by taxing such items so that more Housing target undel Indira Awas Yojana to funds are available for schemes of social welfare meant give subsidised housing to the, :ral poor is doubled to for poor. 10 lakh units per year. Further, for the old and the weak, National Social Assistance Scheme has been proposed On the contrary, raising of dutY on cement would to provide a minimum old age pension of Rs. ,75 per affect the housing plans for the poor. there is a 'leed to month to people above 65 years and falling below give due importance to politica' commitments in fiscal poverty line and complemented by new group Life policies. There is a strong feeling among the working Insurance Scheme to be implemented by panchayats. class that during the last four years enough has not Also, there Is the Mid-day Meal Scheme for the school been done for revival of sick public sector units through children. However, I would request the hon. Finance a package of modernisation prograr:nme. Funds prOVIded Minister to raise it because Rs. 75 is a very little sum for revival/modernisation of sick public sector units were and it should be Increased to at least Rs. 125 per far too inadequate and implementation programme tardy month as this meagre amount will not suffice. Hence there is an urgency in according high priority In 255 Finance Bill. 1995 MAY 22, 1995 Finance Bill, 1995 256 allocation and utilisation of funds for modernisation of The Chair has not committed any mistake. There is sick PSUs particularly in textile sector. Funds raised also another list which is not duly signed by any person. through disinvestment in PSUs should not be diverted to any other purpose but made available for undertaking [Translation] expansion, modernisation, diversification programmes of these undertakings. Diversion of disinvestment funds PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : With full respect to in PSUs has led to starving these units of their legitimate the Chair, I want your protection, Sir, In the list, two demand of resource support for expansion, names are given. One of them was Shri Patidar who modernisation, diversification programme. Although has already spoken. After that, it was my name and I privatisation has distinct advantage, it is not a sure am also whip of the Party but ... remedy for all our ills. In this connection, it is pertinent to point out that BHEL, a premier undertaking with proven [English] track record of technical competence and financial performance is starving for the order. Its performance is MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : You have not sent any the best as compared with the other PSUs. I would like letter. Therefore, you are thoroughly wrong. You have lot to say that whenever the world tenders are floated. the your patience unnecessarily. It was unwarranted. Now BHEL is always the lowest tenderer. Today we are having you can speak for five minutes. a lot of power projects which are going on. Even then there is a shortage of funds, there is a shortage of [Translation] orders for BHEL. I request the hon. I request the hon. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : It is signed by Shri Finance Minister to look into it. Kalka Dass it is written Whip here. There is a lot to do by way of revamping public distribution system where the benefits of subsidies on [English] food and essential articles do not reach the vulnerable sections of society. Various loopholes, leakages in PDS MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKRER ; This is not duly signed need to be plugged effectively and stern action need to Do you know that ? be ·taken against 'defaulting officers and traders. It is my PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : It is signed, Sir considered opinion that in spite of much talk, the implementation of the PDS remains tardy and far from [Translation] satisfaciory. ID cards should be introduced in the PDS. This way, the bogus card menace will disappear. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Can you all sign it? With these words, I thank the hon. Finance Minister. [English] He is really doing an excellent job of bringing the economy much above than the projected level. Is it not warranted that a signature should be there? MA. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Rasa Singh Rawat [Translation] to speak. Your name does not find a place in the first list. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : I myself is a Whip. (Interruptions) I could have sent it myself. My friends have themself given their names, Their names have been taken through PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : It was in the first list. they were not written by any whip. MA. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You kindly hear me. The first list is duly signed by Shri Khanduri. [English] [Translation] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please do not try to argue. You kindly conclude your speech. You are thoroughly PROF. RASA S1NGH RAWAT : I have full respect for wrong. You can verify it from the record that you maintain the Chair. The decision of the Chair will be honoured. I have full respected for the Chair. in your office. All right, we give you five minutes. You kindly speak for five minutes. [English] [Translation] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Secondly, there is also another letter. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : I have sent it in my own hand writting. But I do not want to speak thank you. [Transf'ition] PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT : One .hon. Member [English] l'Ias spoken and after that it was my turn ... MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do you not like to speak? [Er.glishj Shri Thomas to speak. Kindly hear me. You shOUld not go with a bad SHRI PC. THOMAS (Muvattupuzha) : In tact, I was impression. thinking whether I could ask for a chance tomorrow so 257 Finance Bill, 1995 JYAISTHA 1, 1917 (Saka) Finance Bill, 1995 258 that the han. Finance Minister would be there because Thirdly, I just think that the politiCians must be put I want to just put one or two specific points. 8ut, anyway, to some taxation. I do not say that all politicians should I,am happy that hon. Minister of State is here and I will be put to taxation. 8ut we hear a lot. We are really sad. just put a few suggestions for the Finance Minister to Whenever a question of picturising politician even in take up at the last moment. films, even in text books, even in the primary lessons First of all, I support the Finance Bill which has which are given to children, even in every journal which been proposed or moved on the basis of proposals we read, the picture which is given to a politician or the which have come in the Budget and which have been picture of a politician is so poor or so bad that the generally applauded as a people's Budget. So, I do not politician is finding it very difficult nowadays to say that have any objection with regard to the generality of the he is a politician. Budget and the method by which the taxation has been 20.00 hrs. imposed by the new Finance Bill and by the new amendments which have been brought by the Finance Unless you are a politician, you cannot come into Bill. But I would suggest that one or two amendments active public life also. I think the tax machinery should or one or two modifications may be made especially in catch hold of the politicians who are minting money by the small scale industrial sector. Now, one suggestion so many ways and means. I think that the Finance which I would make is with regard to small scale Ministry and other Ministries concerned should take a industries which make rubber thread. This is a small hard step in this regard. The arms of law are long and scale sector which is mainly in the small sector alone strong enough even to extend it to the extent of putting where India is making very good elastic threads. 8ut lot those persons who are really involved in making money, of difficulties are being faced by them because of the but not paying any tax - of course, making black money high taxation in this regard. A 20 per cent tax is being which is thriving and which is threatening our economy imposed on the produce whereas the import duty has to a great extent. been generally decreased. By the decrease of the import lastly I would like to give some suggestions. I am duty. the manufacturers of the small scale sector are not going into the specific suggestions which I wanted finding it difficult because the industry which needs this to make because of the paucity of time and because of as a raw material is now getting it on better term from the generosity shown by the Chair at this last moment. outside. So, I think, this is one sector, where the Finance Minister should at the last moment, give a concession So, I do not take long time. I would suggest that in the by way of reducing the excise duty from 20 percent to small scale industrial sector as well as in the agricultural at least 15 per cent. This is one specific suggestion sector where we are thinking of so much of which I would like to make. modernisation, there should be some reduction of tax on the products which are from these sectors In Secondly, it is not a specific suggestion as such generality I think that is one thing where the Finance with regard to taxation, but one aspect which I feel Ministry will give a specific focus. should be emphasised with regard to our judiciary. The Chief Justices' Conference was held almost a year back I thank the Chair once again for giving me this and another Conference of the like is going to be held opportunity at the fag end of the day in July. What I learnt is that very many suggestions [Translation] have been made and very many of them were agreed to be implemented. Now, we do not expect the judges PROF RASA SINGH RAWAT (Aimer) Mr. Deputy of the High Court or the Supreme Court to speak for Speaker. Sir, through you I want to submit to the State them, speak for the matters with regard to their Minister that the relief in excise duty given in the remuneration. successive budgets from the year 1993-94 onwards are Now, one thing I can point out is the salary which not percolating to the consumers but only the is being given to the higher judiciary, judicial ollicer, Industrialist are benefited by it. Though the industries judges of the Supreme Court as well as the High Court. have been saying that the relief in excise duty is going I think, Rs. 15,000 is the salary which has been agreed to the consumers also, but the study reports of the in the Chief Justices' Conference, and which has been consumers - Organisations and the Costs Bureau have agreed by the law Minister also. But, I think it is a found their claim wrong. When the question was raised question of financial sanction. I think, that is one thing with the Finance Ministry and other concerned Ministries. which should be taken up by the Finance Ministry also it was pOinted out by them that the relevant law is not and sanction shou Id be accorded so that the effective enough and the Government have expressed implementation shall not be delayed up to the next their helplessness in taking action against them. conference which is going to take place. Of course. I Through you I would request the hon Finance Minister am not going to the details of the other suggestions to take note of it w Ilr delivering his budget speech which are very important and which have come In that and ensure that the bE I.<'fits of relief In excise duty and Conference, those must taken into account. custom duty being given reaches the consumers also 259 Finance Bill. 1995 MAY 22. 1995 Finance Bill. 1995 260 As many fo the hon. Members have pointed out steps are taken to check corruption. Government had with every healing measure countries plight simply given an assurance in this House that an economic embittered. The economy of the country has not been drive would be launched. Sir, through you I would like sound because of the misrule of the Congress to ask the extent of curtailment effected by way of Government and when Shri Manmohan Singh gO.t the economy drives launched by you. opportunity to present the budget he tried to administer Sir, I am thankful to you for giving me time to express a doze of panacea but that too proved of no avail. I my views on the budget and the Finance Bill. Due to would like to remind him that the Congress party. in its shortage of time, I will briefly make my point. The country manifesto had promised to check price rise within 100 is overburdened under heavy debt, so much so that a days and provide employment to lakhs of unemployed substantial amount is spent on repaying. The interest persons within one year after coming into power, I would on the loan and still the amount of loan is increasing like to attract the attention of the Government as to what every year. The pressure of loah is increasing every happened to those assuring pronoum:ements ? year. The pressure of World Bank, multinationals and Terrorism is increasing in the country. Thousand IMF is also increasing on us. We have to devise means and thousands of unemployed people are taking- to to withstand this pressure. We should make ourselve, terrorism out of frustration and despair. The sole reason self-reliant and encourage small scale and cottage of it is the increasing unemployment in the country. It industries and work for the eradication of poverty and has also been mentioned in the budget that employment help the people living below the pov'erty line come up. opportunities would be made available under the Efforts should also be made to slove the unemployment Jawahar Rozgar Yojana but will that too proved a mirage problem and check the spread of corruption. Only some 'scant jobs and teeming job seekers'. There is a ban on concrete measures can benefit the poor. But the budget recruitment and even the existing vacancies are not seems to be an election-oriented budget. Infighting is being filled up. New jobs are not being created as a going on in the Congress party. First, you have to set result of which unemployment problem is just your house in order. How can you strengthen the snowballing rapidly. economy of this country when your own party is a divided house? I would like to oppose this Finance Bill. Hon. Sir, through you I would like to say one thing Though many reliefs have been given on this Bill but more. The entire country is concerned about the tax its benefits will not percolate to the poor people. It will exemption limit on income. The middle class is in fact, make the rich richer and the poor, poorer. demanding that income tax exemption limit be raised to Rs. 60 thousand. But whatever relief has been given is With these words, I conclude and thank you for too meagre, just a drop in the ocean. Even the class IV giving me time to speak. employees are paying income tax. They are financially not sound to invest in bonds and insurance and take {English] benefit of the exemptions allowed on insurance pOlicies MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: So, thank you very much etc. So, the increase in dearness allowance, interim for the cooperation that you have extended. Now, the relief and the likely increase in benefits of the employees House stands adjourned to meet tomorrow, the 23rd after Pay Commission report will be set off by ever May, 1995 at 11 a.m. increasing inflation and tax deductions as the Income Tax Department deducts 25% of the Dearness 20.09 hrs. allowance though the employees get increased but the prices keep on spirallying and the value of rupee is The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the also going down and thereby worsening the condition Clock on Tuesday, May 23, 19951Jyaistha 2, 1917 (Saka) of this class. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. it is because of this reasons that the prices are rising at a galloping pace. No effective PLS 40. XLI. 32.95 67Q o 1995 By I.oK SAIIHo\ SECRETARIAT Published under Rules 379 and 382 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of BusIness In lok 8abha (Eighth Edition) and 'printed by DATA POINT, 815, .Suneja Tower-ll, DlsU. Centre, Janakpuri, Now Oelhl-58. Ph . .550511C