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Vol. 804 Tuesday No. 88 14 July 2020 PARLIAMENTARYDEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDEROFBUSINESS Questions Taiwan ..........................................................................................................................1529 Covid-19: Vaccine Availability......................................................................................1532 Trade Agreements .................................................... ....................................................1536 Medical Teaching and Learning: Ethnic Diversity .......................................................1539 House of Lords: Relocation Private Notice Question ................................................................................................1542 Business of the House Timing of Debates.........................................................................................................1546 Business of the House Motion on Standing Orders ...........................................................................................1546 Business of the House Motion on Standing Orders ...........................................................................................1547 Intelligence and Security Committee Membership Motion ......................................................................................................1547 Business and Planning Bill Committee (2nd Day)...................................................................................................1549 Agriculture Bill Committee (3rd Day)...................................................................................................1588 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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The first time a Member speaks to a new piece of parliamentary business, the following abbreviations are used to show their party affiliation: Abbreviation Party/Group CB Cross Bench Con Conservative DUP Democratic Unionist Party GP Green Party Ind Lab Independent Labour Ind LD Independent Liberal Democrat Ind SD Independent Social Democrat Ind UU Independent Ulster Unionist Lab Labour Lab Co-op Labour and Co-operative Party LD Liberal Democrat LD Ind Liberal Democrat Independent Non-afl Non-affiliated PC Plaid Cymru UKIP UK Independence Party UUP Ulster Unionist Party No party affiliation is given for Members serving the House in a formal capacity, the Lords spiritual, Members on leave of absence or Members who are otherwise disqualified from sitting in the House. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2020, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 1529 Arrangement of Business [14 JULY 2020] Taiwan 1530 House of Lords Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: My Lords, while noting what the noble Baroness said, I assure her that we Tuesday 14 July 2020 continue to work with like-minded partners, particularly on participation for Taiwan in those organisations The House met in a Hybrid Sitting. where statehood is not a prerequisite. Those include 12 pm the World Health Organization. We also believe that Taiwan has an important role to play in the spheres of Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham. education and climate change. Baroness Anelay of St Johns (Con): My Lords, Arrangement of Business Taiwan has been preparing for a pandemic since the Announcement SARS epidemic in 2003. As a result, it has been able to tackle the terrible ravages of Covid-19 with great 12.06 pm success. But at the World Health Assembly in May, the The Deputy Speaker (Lord Lexden) (Con): My Lords, attendees, including us, were unable to learn about the some Members are here in the Chamber, respecting methods of its success because Taiwan’s attendance as social distancing, and others are participating remotely, an observer was blocked by China. Will my noble but all Members will be treated equally. If the capacity friend please assure me that the diplomatic efforts of of the Chamber is exceeded, I will immediately adjourn the UK will be used to try to prevent such a blocking the House. from happening in the future? Oral Questions will now commence. Please can those asking supplementary questions keep them short Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: My Lords, I share my and confined to two points? I ask that Ministers’ noble friend’s disappointment and concern. As I have answers are also brief. already said, we believe that Taiwan has an important role to play, particularly in how it has dealt with the Covid-19 pandemic. Therefore, we continue to lobby Taiwan for its participation in meetings such as those convened Question by the World Health Organization. 12.06 pm Lord Alton of Liverpool (CB): My Lords, can we Asked by Baroness D’Souza raise the case of Lee Ming-che, a Taiwanese pro- ToaskHerMajesty’sGovernmentwhat(1)diplomatic, democracy activist arrested in China and given a and (2) practical, assistance they are providing to five-year prison sentence for posts on social media the government of Taiwan; and what plans they calling for democratic reforms? His wife, whom I have have to formally recognise Taiwan as an independent met, says that he is literally forced to eat rotten food sovereign state. and is denied prison visits. Following the imposition of the new security law in Hong Kong, what does this The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth case say about the future of pro-democracy advocates Office and Department for International Development in Hong Kong, and in mainland China? (Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon) (Con): My Lords, the United Kingdom’s long-standing policy on Taiwan Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: My Lords, I thank the has not changed. We have no diplomatic relations with noble Lord for bringing this case to my attention. I Taiwan, but a strong unofficial relationship based on assure him that we are monitoring it through our dynamic commercial, educational and cultural ties. embassy in Beijing. While we have not raised it with We regularly lobby in favour of Taiwan’s participation Chinese counterparts, we regularly make known our in international organisations where statehood is not a concerns about the increasing restrictions on civil and prerequisite, and we make clear our concerns about political rights and freedom of expression in China. any activity that risks destabilising the cross-strait We do the same in Hong Kong. status quo. We have no plans to recognise Taiwan as a state. Lord Faulkner of Worcester (Lab) [V]: My Lords, I remind the House of my interest as the Government’s Baroness D’Souza (CB) [V]: I thank the Minister trade envoy to Taiwan. Will the Minister celebrate for his sympathetic response. President Xi has made it with me the 30% increase in trade between Britain and clear that “one country, two systems” is the plan for Taiwan over the past three years, and congratulate Taiwan, and the 100th anniversary of the Chinese President Tsai Ing-wen and her Government on not Communist Party in 2021 has been mentioned as a just their triumphant re-election earlier this year in a possible deadline. Will the Government consider taking fair and free contest but on their management of the small but significant steps and work with other like-minded Covid-19 crisis—that was referred to by the noble nations less susceptible to Chinese influence to clarify Baroness, Lady Anelay; there have been 447 cases and and entrench Taiwan’s de facto independence? Such just seven deaths out of a population of 23.8 million—and steps might specifically include inviting Taiwan as a their generosity in donating 2 million face masks to guest to G7 meetings, lobbying for membership of the the UK? I hope that the Minister will continue to do OECD as well as of the Comprehensive and Progressive all he can to ensure that Taiwan is admitted to the Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, and considering WHO so that the whole world can learn from its Cabinet-level ministerial visits to Taiwan. success and share its expertise. 1531 Taiwan [LORDS] Covid-19: Vaccine Availability 1532 Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: My Lords, I share the Lord Kilclooney (CB): My Lords, as a member of noble Lord’s view of the positive elements of the the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Taiwan and relationship with Taiwan. My right honourable friend having visited Taiwan on many occasions, I find it a the Foreign Secretary congratulated President Tsai on nation which is a great stable democracy. Can the her victory. Government of the United Kingdom now consider improving high-level exchanges with Taiwan? For example, Baroness Northover (LD): My Lords,when the national are the President of Taiwan, the Vice-President and security law was imposed on Hong Kong, 53 countries the Foreign Minister banned from coming to the supported China on it at the UN Human Rights United Kingdom because of their political positions Council. Only 27 countries, including only half of EU or are they banned as individuals?