1 John 5:11-12 Posted by Hipm on Wed, 31 Oct 2018 01:07:09

Subject: 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 [Lawsuits Against Believers] Posted by john.svk on Tue, 04 Feb 2020 01:11:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? 7 To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 But you yourselves wrong and defraud--even your own brothers![a]

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[b] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[c] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 [Lawsuits Against Believers] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 04 Feb 2020 18:41:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 [Lawsuits Against Believers]

When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? 7 To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 But you yourselves wrong and defraud--even your own brothers![a]

Page 1 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[b] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[c] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Observation: when you have dispute with another go to lords people instead ungodly people. saints will judge the world and even angels. Be wise and settle your disputes among yourselves. Instead to have lawsuits with one another better to suffer the wrong and better to be defrauded.

Application: do not dispute with fellow brother infront of non believers do not be deceived. wrong doers will not inherit inherit the kingdom of god. We will be justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Prayer:

Lord wash us, sanctify us by your precious blood and we want to inherit the kingdom of god.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 [Lawsuits Against Believers] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 05 Feb 2020 00:41:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS: The Corinthians were quite fond of law and lawsuits. It was actually entertaining for them to be a part of a legal action and to try to figure out penalties.this being the culture, the habit of bringing a lawsuit against someone seeped into the church.The Apostle Paul was not impressed with this behavior and sharply rebukes the Church for settling their differences in this way. Someone in the Church at Corinth was following the pattern of old habits and using a natural recourse to assert his rights. In other words, he was suing the pants off a fellow Christian.Paul responds, "If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints?". It is is really disturbing is the ignorance of such a person to bring church troubles before secular courts, pagan judges who have no understanding of the family God, of what divine forgiveness is like, or of what peacemaking is all about.

-A pastor sued his denomination for age discrimination because he could not find a church

Page 2 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum willing to hire him for the salary he demanded. -The board of trustees of a Baptist church in Louisiana filed suit to remove their pastor from his position. A few days later, another group, claiming to be the real trustees, filed a counter suit, asking that those who had filed the previous suit be removed as church members. -A family in Illinois sued their church for injuries their 15-year-old son suffered at a church picnic when he fell out of a tree

The Bible clearly tells us that we are going to be a part of God's judgment of the world at the end of times. We are going to rule and reign with Jesus.Paul goes deeper still into the reason that we as Christians should avoid lawsuits. The fact is it brings downright shame to the church.The real shame is that the dirty laundry of the church is aired out for the whole world to see. "But instead, one brother goes to law against another and this in front of unbelievers! The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already.

APPLICATIONS

-"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind..." (Rom 12:2) -Our pride can easily lead us to situations where we get heated and frustrated. Then if the Spirit is allowed, we are humbled and brought low so that God can show us how stupid, really stupid we have been. -Paul is asking us to do is consider our behavior as a church, as a family of God, and to ask ourselves "How are we treating each other?" Because the world is watching and wondering what makes us different

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 [Lawsuits Against Believers] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 05 Feb 2020 00:56:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: [1 Corinthians 6:1-11] Lawsuits Against Believers

6 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases... 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Observation: 1) As believers we ought to live at peace with all Men [Romans 12:18] through the love and humility of Christ. That is the mark of our fellowship with Christ. Our Lord Christ himself emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant being born in the likeness of Men.

Christ also wants us to reconcile and come to terms quickly with our accuser while we are going with him to the court [Matthew 5:25]. Also in Luke 12:57-58, says "And why do you not judge for yourselves what is right? 58 As you go with your accuser before the magistrate, make an effort to settle with him on the way, lest he drag you to the judge, and the judge hand you over to the

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We should not move an ancient landmark; or enter the fields of the fatherless for Lord will plead their cause against you [Proverbs 23:10]. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you [James 5:4]

2) Only the Sanctified person with the transformed life in Christ will only inherit the kingdom of God.

Application: We should resolve the dispute matters among Christian brothers and Sister through the Love of God and the leading of Holy Spirit. We should be united as one body under the headship of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Even in Old testament times, the one who is more Spiritual and more mature have let the youngest one to choose the best part of land during the time of dispute. [Genesis 13:8] - Then Abram said to Lot, "Let there be no strife between you and me, and between your herdsmen and my herdsmen, for we are kinsmen.[a] 9 Is not the whole land before you? Separate yourself from me.

We ought to bear one another as mentioned in Colossians 3:13.

Prayer: Lord, help us to be patient and be at peace with all brothers and sisters.

Subject: 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 05 Feb 2020 01:58:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything. 13 "Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food"--and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined[d] to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, "The two will become one flesh." 17 But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. 18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin[e] a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:02:09 GMT

Page 4 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] 12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything. 13 "Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food"--and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined[d] to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, "The two will become one flesh." 17 But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. 18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin[e] a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Observation: In this world there are many immoralities. we need to see our actions are lawful, moral? we should not be dominated by any immoralities of this world. Lord created human body so human body has been made for god.Own by god. Our body is not meant for sexual immorality because god has created us in his image with his qualities. our bodies are members of Christ and we are responsible to keep our body as holy. If one join to the lord will become one spirit with god. If one join with a prostitute he will become one flesh with her.

Application:

As Christians we should flee from Sexual Immorality Our body is a temple of the Holy Spirit of our god You are not your own, we were bought with a price, blood of Christ. Glorify God in your body.

Prayer: Lord help us to stay away from Sexual Immorality and we should keep our body as temple of god.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:46:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATION::

Page 5 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum If our bodies are members of Christ's Body and we are joined with Him and we are one spirit with Him then what Apostle Paul said, that, our bodies are the temples of God for His Spirit lives in us is truth.Be careful what you engage in because, your body is the temple of God where His Spirit dwells. Don't do what will destroy your body in other words destroy the temple or home of God.He owns you. The house which is His temple, has been bought by Him at a price. It cost Him the Blood of His Son to buy you so you don't own yourself to go about destroying His property. Yield to Him, let Him take charge of His possession and rule it. You are just a caretaker or manager don't mismanage your Father's property and destroy it in the end.IT'S ALL ABOUT JESUS* and no one else. Jesus has come to pay the price for you and therefore you have been bought from prison, oppression and destruction. Don't go back into it. Allow God to control and run His temple through you in the name of Jesus. So , now we are reminded that our bodies play a vital role in worshiping the Lord. Body and spirit are connected. How we worship Jesus as our Lord and savior in and out of church is affected by the condition of our flesh. Hence, we need to take care of our bodies for the glory of the Lord.

APPLICATION "Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."- Matthew 26:41 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come - 1 Timothy 4:8 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God--this is your true and proper worship - Romans 12:1

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 01:08:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) Do the things that are helpful for the kingdom of Lord

So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin. [James 4:17]. For the one who takes care of naked, hungry, thirsty and prisoner, Jesus said And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.' [Matthew 25:40] Also in old testament during prophet Samuel's farewell speech, as for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the LORD by ceasing to pray for you, and I will instruct you in the good and the right way. [1 Samuel 12:23]

Jewish captives in Babylon went further to say that "If I forget you, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget its skill! 6 Let my tongue stick to the roof of my mouth, if I do not remember you...[Psalm 137:5-6]

2) Apostle Paul got this greatest revelation that Christ dwells in us and lives through us in the form of Spirit as he described in his various letters to the church.

Page 6 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Christ in you, the hope of glory [Colossians 1:7] Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith [Ephesians 3:17], It is no longer I live but it is Christ who lives in me [Galatians 2:20], Spirit of God dwells in you [Romans 8:9] / do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you [1 Corinthians 6:19]

Application:

whatever we do in our body, [whether we eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. - 1 Corinthians 10:31] we glory the lord. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, [Colossians 3:17]

Prayer: Lord, let the Spirit of the Lord [Christ in us] helps us to do things daily as per will of God.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] Posted by isaac on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 01:36:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 [Flee Sexual Immorality] 12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything. 13 "Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food"--and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined[d] to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, "The two will become one flesh." 17 But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. 18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin[e] a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Observation: One important point from this passage is we were bought with a price. Once we are saved we belong to God and we don't have any authority over our body rather God has.Especially in the current scenario where the world is full of filth we need to be even more careful and take care of our thoughts and action. As we all know everything comes by practice so we need to remember the standards Jesus has setup in this area. In Mathew 5:28 we read " But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" So we need to be careful with what we see as eye is very crucial in this area

Application: since we are bought with a price we should be guarding it carefully.

Prayer:

Page 7 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum God help me to stay away from all the lustful ways of this world and help me to guard my mind and eyes

Subject: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 02:02:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this.[a] 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.

8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. 9 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

10 To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband 11 (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife.

12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you[b] to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:36:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her

Page 8 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this.[a] 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.

Observation: Man or woman has to marry because it is not good to get into temptation which will lead to sexual immorality. husband and wife have rights over others.they do not have authority over their own body. God wants us to live together as a family with children so do not get separated for any reason. If we have an issue we should resolve it and reconcile with one another. Believer's has a great responsibility to convert his spouse through their life. They can make their spouse holy.

Mark 10:6-9 New International Version (NIV) 6 "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'[a] 7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.'[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."

Application: Restrain from sexual immorality husband has authority over his wife and vice versa never get separated spouse make sure that their partner and children are believers God has called husband and wife to be peaceful to each other In our family life, we should spend quality time for our god in meditating and prayer

Page 9 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Prayer: Lord gives us self control to get rid of temptation. Help us to live as a family with your peace.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:57:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

Corinth was one of the largest cities in the Roman world and one of the most corrupt (Acts 18:1). Full of false teachers, immature believers and people of all kind of ideas, the Christians in Corinth got into a lot of difficult situations considering Marriage. Paul challenged believers in Corinth to bring glory to God regardless of their marital status. Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. - Hebrews 13-4 Jesus states: "marriage was to be permanent." Divorce was granted because of the hardness of the hearts of the people of Israel. Jesus said: "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so,"

Guidelines for single Christians 7:8-9 Guidelines for Christian Married Christians (7:10-11) Guidelines for Christians married to non-Christians who want to stay married(7:12-14) Guidelines for Christians married to non-Christians who do not want to stay married (7:15-16)

God's Intent" 1. Marriage is good 2.Marriage is between one man and one woman 3.Marriage protects against the temptations of immorality 4.Marriage is permanent

APPLICATIONS: In our Marriage life we should have boundaries and Guardrails and individuals should take responsibility to keep boundaries. We need to obey the word of God and live accordingly.Knowing the great value of marriage, we must work hard to preserve what God has so clearly given to us in Scripture. Let us affirm in word and deed the principles of marriage that Paul gave to us in our lesson for today.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Posted by isaac on Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:32:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 10 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Observation Paul is very transparent and clear about one should not be having sexual relationship with other woman than one's wife. This is exactly opposite to what this world is going through right now so we should be very careful and clear in our act. We always think that we have authority over oursef but for Married people verse 4 clearly shows only our spouse have the authority over our body. Paul talks clearly about the human psychology that even though we are Godly people we need to be connected with our spouse all the time and not staying away for longer time. Even if one's spouse is a unbeleiver that should not be reason for parting from his/her spouse.

Application What i want my wife to do to me i need to do the same thing to my wife. In no way one is higher than another so we need to respect each other.

Prayer Lord help me to stay away from immorality. Help me to love my spouse as Christ loved the church

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:35:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Importance of Marriage in the sight of God [verse 1-5] Our Lord created the institution of marriage. When He created man in his own image, male and female He created them. [Genesis 1:27] God even said , "It is not good that the man should be alone and he made a helper fit for him, Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. [Genesis 2:18,24] God likes the oneness between His children and especially with the couple Lord unites them with His Spirit. [Malachi 2:15 - Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union? And what was the one God seeking? Godly offspring.

2) Transforming the Marriage partner [verse 14-16] While Israel was yet a sinful nation, our Lord loved her with an everlasting love. The believing husband [Lord] made the sinful bride [Israel] Holy. [Isaiah 54:5] For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called. Also it is mentioned in Jeremiah 31:22, 23 like How long will you wander, O faithless daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing in the land--a woman will shelter a man." This is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: "When I restore them from captivity, they will once again speak this word in the land of Judah and in its cities: 'May the LORD bless you, O righteous dwelling place, O holy mountain.'

Application:

Page 11 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Marriage always teach us spiritual lesson of unity, acceptance, love, patience, forbearance, self-control and humility. When Enoch became the father of Methuselah, he walked with God for 300 years. [Genesis 5:21-23]

Also, God can call some to be single and be devoted to Him without worrying about family just like John the Baptist, Christ and probably Paul himself. [Matthew 19:10-12], The disciples said to him, "If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry." 11 But he said to them, "Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given

Irrespective of marital status, God can teach his children through various circumstances.

Prayer: Dear Lord, please use our marriage for your Glory.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 [Principles for Marriage] Posted by isaac on Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:39:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 30a40e6f

Observation Paul is very transparent and clear about having sexual relationship with other woman than one's wife. This is exactly opposite to what this world is going through right now so we should be very careful and clear in our act. We always think that we have authority over oursef but for Married people verse 4 clearly shows only our spouse have the authority over our body. Paul talks clearly about the human psychology that even though we are Godly people we need to be connected with our spouse all the time and not staying away for longer time. Even if one's spouse is a unbeleiver that should not be reason for parting from his/her spouse.

Application What i want my wife to do to me i need to do the same thing to my wife. In no way one is higher than another so we need to respect each other.

Prayer Lord help me to stay away from immorality. Help me to love my spouse as Christ loved the church

Subject: 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 [Live as You Are Called] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 26 Feb 2020 02:07:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 12 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 17 Only let each person lead the life[c] that the Lord has assigned to him, and to which God has called him. This is my rule in all the churches. 18 Was anyone at the time of his call already circumcised? Let him not seek to remove the marks of circumcision. Was anyone at the time of his call uncircumcised? Let him not seek circumcision. 19 For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God. 20 Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called. 21 Were you a bondservant[d] when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.) 22 For he who was called in the Lord as a bondservant is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a bondservant of Christ. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become bondservants of men. 24 So, brothers,[e] in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 [Live as You Are Called] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 03 Mar 2020 22:43:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: - 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 [Live as You Are Called] 17 Only let each person lead the life[c] that the Lord has assigned to him, and to which God has called him. This is my rule in all the churches. 18 Was anyone at the time of his call already circumcised? Let him not seek to remove the marks of circumcision. Was anyone at the time of his call uncircumcised? Let him not seek circumcision. 19 For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God. 20 Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called. 21 Were you a bondservant[d] when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.) 22 For he who was called in the Lord as a bondservant is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise, he who was free when called is a bondservant of Christ. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become bondservants of men. 24 So, brothers,[e] in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God.

Observation: we need to lead our life according to god. we need to live as we are called by Christ. Do not worry about anything except following God's great commandments; love our God and love others. we should not be the servant of men and we should not bound by these worldly things. Instead, we should be the servant of Christ and we should bound by our god's grace and peace. Because we were bought by the precious blood of our lord god Jesus Christ. so get rid of worldly worries and just remain with god.

Galatians 1:10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Application: Live as you are called by our God to do his will in this world Act according to gods purpose in our life Follow the great commandments

Page 13 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Be a servant of god Ephesians 3:7 I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God's grace given me through the working of his power.

Prayer: Lord enable us your servants throughout our life term

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 [Live as You Are Called] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 04 Mar 2020 00:40:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS

- The Apostle advises the Corinthian believers to remain in the state and condition they were in when they were saved -The person who becomes a Christian is born again into the kingdom of God, but that does not nullify what they were before they trusted Christ -Paul illustrates his point with the rite of circumcision. There is no need for a Gentile convert to be circumcised. On the other hand, there is nothing that could require a Jewish convert to be uncircumcised. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcised has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love - Galatians 5:6

God can work in our life now; Don't think that you can or will walk with the Lord when you're your lot in life improves or when you have improved yourself; walk for the Lord in the place you are at right now. Accepting the Gospel will not change anyone's prior conditions and obligations in any way, despite the fact that the holy principles of Christianity were inherently charged with power to destroy many shameful doctrines and traditions of pagan society. "The Gospel, instead of weakening any moral or just political obligation, strengthened them all."

It is very likely that some of the slaves at Corinth, who had been converted to Christianity, had been led to think that their Christian privileges absolved them from the necessity of continuing as slaves; or, at least, brought them to the level of their Christian masters. A spirit of this kind might have soon led to confusion and insubordination, and brought scandals into the Church. It was therefore, a very proper subject for the apostle to include in this letter; and you would think that the Corinthians would respectfully bow to his authority.

APPLICATIONS:

When a person is converted, whatever he is doing, wherever he is, he is to remain in that position as long as he is free to serve God in that relationship. God must be first. "Therein abide with God." If his situation will not permit God to be first, then he should change the situation, Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God - Col 3:22 For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith - Romans 12:3

Page 14 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 [Live as You Are Called] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 04 Mar 2020 01:19:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Faith in Christ only saves us. (Not Circumcision) We don't want to change the non-essential things when we got saved. We don't need to add anything to the calling (salvation) by doing (or) un-doing non-essential things.

Galatians 5:6 says, "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.". Also, as per 1 Corinthians 10:23 / 6:12 - "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything.

2) Living a testimony filled life in secular world / profession. As God's children, per 1 Peter 2:18 - Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust. Also Paul addressed this in Ephesians 6:5-6, Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would show to Christ. 6 And do this not only to please them while they are watching, but as servants of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

Application:

Upon our salvation and calling, we have to walk in the manner of His will. Paul addressed that in Ephesians 4:1-3, I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, 3 eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Prayer: Lord please help us to be led by the Spirit of God and fulfill our calling with thy strength.

Subject: 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 (Unmarried and Widowed) Posted by john.svk on Wed, 04 Mar 2020 13:10:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 25 Now concerning[f] the betrothed,[g] I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy. 26 I think that in view of the present[h] distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. 27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman[i] marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29 This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, 30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, 31 and those who deal with the world

Page 15 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.

32 I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. 33 But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, 34 and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband. 35 I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord.

36 If anyone thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed,[j] if his[k] passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry--it is no sin. 37 But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. 38 So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better.

39 A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 40 Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 (Unmarried and Widowed) Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:34:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 (Unmarried and Widowed) 25 Now concerning[f] the betrothed,[g] I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy. 26 I think that in view of the present[h] distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. 27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman[i] marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29 This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, 30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, 31 and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.

36 If anyone thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed,[j] if his[k] passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry--it is no sin. 37 But whoever is

Page 16 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. 38 So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better.

39 A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 40 Yet in my judgment, she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God

Observation:

Paul talks about the advantage of not getting married. if you are not married you can spend your time for god without any worldly worries. Paul said if you are married do not get separated; if you are separated do not marry. Paul sais Marriage is not a sin. at the same time, it is not just for everyone. If you can live unmarried with self-control you can do that. Because Marriage has its worldly pains and responsibilities. unmarried man worries about god and thinks about sinless life.married man worries about his wife and kids and filled with worldly things. As our life is short in this world lets do not plan more in this world. we should live worry-free life to secure our eternal life with God.

Job 1:21 "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart.[a] The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; may the name of the Lord be praised."

Application: we should not fill worldly worries we should spend time in following the commandments married or unmarried the name of the Lord be praised

Prayer: Lord, we want to follow you with true heart without worldly worries

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 (Unmarried and Widowed) Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:52:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

Paul addresses the circumstances:(25-31)

A. It was a time of crisis for these people (v. 26)

- Because of this, it was better for some to remain unmarried (v. 27).

Page 17 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum - The married, however, are not to divorce (v. 27). - Some of the married might have to live as if they were not (v. 29). - Remember, these instructions are not for the normal situations in life.

B.they were viewing marriage in the light of their service to God (vv. 32-35) C. Paul Again Reminds Us of the Intent of Marriage (vv. 39-40)

- God's original intent is that marriage is dissolved only by death (v. 39). - Remarriage is always allowed in this situation (v. 39). - Christians are to many only those who belong to the Lord (v. 39). - Paul gives his own judgment (v. 40).

- This Scripture chives home the teaching that marriage is sacred. - This Scripture also teaches that the subject of marriage is complex

APPLICATION

Should a Christian get married or stay single? Both are gifts from God. Neither is wrong. But, there are several good reasons for staying single, such as the pressure of the distress, the problems of the flesh, the passing of the world, the preoccupations of marriage, the preference of singleness, and the permanence of marriage.

You may not always be single. But, for the time being, if God has called you to singleness, be content with his call on your life until he provides you with a suitable marriage partner.

At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.-Matthew 22:30

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 7:25-40 (Unmarried and Widowed) Posted by john.svk on Wed, 11 Mar 2020 00:31:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Called as unmarried (or) eunuchs God created human as male and female as Jesus mentioned in Matt 19:4 [He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female,] But also Jesus quoted for eunuchs as Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. [Matt 19:11,12]

Paul acknowledged that the calling for unmarried and his preference to live an unmarried life for God is from his opinion rather than from the revelation of Lord. [1 Corinthians 7:25]

2) Called as single widow For a widowed, if he or she is single she can spend time with the Lord. Even this also Paul

Page 18 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum mentioned that this is his opinion. [1 Corinthians 7:39-40]. Anna, the prophetess who lived as a widow for more than 50 years but did not depart from the temple spent time in fasting and prayers day and night. [Luke 2:36-37]

3) Called for abundant and humble/lowly state Those who have married live as though they are not and those who buy as though they hasd no goodsfor the visible things are going to pass by. Jesus said in Luke 14:26 as "If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple."

Paul lived a content life as he mentioned in Philippians 4:11, 11 Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: 12 I know how to [d]be abased, and I know how to [e]abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13 I can do all things through [f]Christ who strengthens me.

Application: Here Paul was talking about his calling as unmarried but Apostles and Peter got married as they perform apostalic ministry. So, whatever we do and whatever condition we are in we should do it for the glory of God. [1 Corinthians 10:31, Colossians 3:17]

We should live very light as if we don't have any dealings in the world. We are not of the world as Christ mentioned in John 17:16.

Prayer: Dear Lord, help me to fulfill your calling upon me by your strength.

Subject: 1 Corinthians 8 [Be Sensitive to Conscience] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 11 Mar 2020 01:06:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge [a]puffs up, but love [b]edifies. 2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.

4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 But food does not commend us to God; for neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse.

Page 19 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 9 But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a [c]stumbling block to those who are weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols? 11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12 But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 8 [Be Sensitive to Conscience] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 24 Mar 2020 21:06:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 8 [Be Sensitive to Conscience]

Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge [a]puffs up, but love [b]edifies. 2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.

9 But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a [c]stumbling block to those who are weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols? 11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12 But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

Observation: do not involve in any idol offering. it is one of the old testament laws. Knowledge [a]puffs up, but love [b]edifies, so love is greater than knowledge. if anyone thinks that he knows everything god do not like that but if one loves god he can experience gods love in return. There are many gods but our god is greater, higher, name above all names. We should lift him up in all our acts. we should understand and tell others about the triune nature of our god. Trinity is not three gods. As others are watching over us we should be careful what we are doing, saying. If we say one and

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Application: so do practice love in life , than knowledge among others we should not involve in any kind of idol worshiping we should not eat food offered to idols. we have to honor christian values

Prayer:

Lord we never ever involve in any idol worshiping

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 8 [Be Sensitive to Conscience] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 25 Mar 2020 00:01:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

Idolatry pervaded almost every aspect of Greek and Roman life. Their social contacts, their feasts, the administration of justice, public entertainment, the offices and honors of government, were all more or less connected with religious services. Christians, therefore, were constantly exposed to the danger of being involved in some idolatrous ritual or worship without even knowing it. This gave rise to numerous perplexing questions of conscience, which were often decided differently by different groups of Christians, and it is one of the factors that caused factions to spring up in the Corinthian Church. orinth, like all Greek cities, was full of temples housing heathen idols. At their altars animals were constantly sacrificed, and the flesh of those animals was eaten afterwards. The question arose whether a Christian could eat such flesh without committing the sin of showing respect to an idol. The meat offered on pagan altars was usually divided up into three portions: one portion was burnt in honor of the god; one portion was given to the worshipper to take home and eat; and the third portion was given to the priest. If the priest didn't want to eat his portion, he sold it at the temple restaurant or meat market. The meat served and sold at the temple was generally cheaper; and then, as well as now, people loved a bargain (including Christians!). But the issue raises many questions: can we eat meat purchased at the temple meat market? Can a Christian eat at the restaurant at the pagan temple? What if we are served meat purchased at the temple meat market when we are guests in someone's home? Refusing to attend such gatherings would be like not attending weddings or other social functions today

The exhibition of your freedom is not supposed to lead others astray. There are other Christians who are weak in God and in the knowledge of the Word and they have little or no revelation so they don't know the full freedom in our Father. Jesus carefully and gently guided all who came to Him so that they will be strengthened. He also gave them knowledge through the Word so they grow and become vessels with revelation. Beloved let's be there for the weaker vessels and strengthen them to also enjoy thier lives in Christ and happily pass to the bosom of the Father at

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APPLICATIONS:

Paul says elsewhere, 'It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything whereby your brother stumbles, or is offended, or is made weak'- Romans 14:23 'Whatever is not of faith is sin' to the doubting brother (Romans 14:23) - and if I thus cause my brother to sin against his conscience, I am in fact sinning against Christ (1 Corinthians 8:12)!

Subject: [1 Corinthians 9:1-17] A self Pattern of Self Denial Posted by john.svk on Mon, 18 May 2020 12:35:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the [a]seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no [b]right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along [c]a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas? 6 Or is it only Barnabas and I who have no right to refrain from working? 7 Who ever goes to war at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its fruit? Or who tends a flock and does not drink of the milk of the flock?

8 Do I say these things as a mere man? Or does not the law say the same also? 9 For it is written in the law of Moses, "You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain." Is it oxen God is concerned about? 10 Or does He say it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written, that he who plows should plow in hope, and he who threshes in hope should be partaker of his hope. 11 If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things? 12 If others are partakers of this right over you, are we not even more?

Nevertheless we have not used this right, but endure all things lest we hinder the gospel of Christ. 13 Do you not know that those who minister the holy things eat of the things of the temple, and those who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar? 14 Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.

15 But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void. 16 For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel! 17 For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship. 18 What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel [d]of Christ without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel.

Subject: Re: [1 Corinthians 9:1-17] A self Pattern of Self Denial Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 19 May 2020 21:13:18 GMT

Page 22 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1 Corinthians 9:1-17] A self Pattern of Self Denial

Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the [a]seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

Observation: Paul was claiming about his apostleship and his free will as like other humans. If he take care of spritual needs of corinthians then they have to take care of the material needs of paul. shepard - sheep God said everyone has to reap the benefits of their work to live and sustain. God told who preaches the gospel should live from the gospel. If they do gopel as their work how will they meet their worldly needs ? All of us should preach the gospel. Its our duty. If not we should support whom preaches the gospel to make sure that our greatest reward is in heaven.

Analysis: We should seed our work and expect the yield in gods eternal kingdom Even Paul was questioned by corinthians he has no expectations, and in between his troubles he is willing to continuing his apostleship We should realize our highest duty in this world is to spread gospel to everyoneas jesus did.

Page 23 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum We should not expect rewards in this world and be sure to get it in heaven. We should not make any accuse on gods workers. God will take care of that. Our job is to support them to do gods work.

Luke 10;7

7 Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.

Prayer Lord give us a heart to uphold your ministries throught out of our life. And also involve in your ministries.

Subject: Re: [1 Corinthians 9:1-17] A self Pattern of Self Denial Posted by john.svk on Wed, 20 May 2020 00:30:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Paul never abused any church because of his Apostolic authority. Even though he deserves financial benefit but he didn't expect (or) ask Corinthians church to support his ministry. He considers them as his own spiritual children and hence he wants to preach without any burden for them.

At Corinth, as per Acts 18:3, he worked with Aquila and Priscilla as tent makers to support himself. When Paul was talking to Ephesian elders, he remembered how during his three years ministry work in Ephesus, how he worked not only for his necessities but also for those who were with him [Acts 20:31-34]

At Thesslonica, Paul talked about his labor and toil for day and night so he might not be a burden and set himself as an example for the gospel of God. [1 Thess 2:9 / 2 Thess 3:7-9]

2) Paul wants to present gospel without charge and his priority is to preach the gospel. 1 Corinthians 9:16,18, states that woe is to him if he do not preach gospel and when Paul preach the gospel, he may present the gospel of Christ without charge.

3) Paul received contributions from churches and from some individuals though While he was in Corinth and Thessalonica, he was supplied by folks from Macedonia and philippi. [2 Corinthians 11:9 / Philippians 4:15-16] Sister Phoebe helped Paul in Rome and Gaius and Philemon were hosting Paul during his ministries and journey. [Romans 16:2, 23] [Philemon 19, 22]

Application: We should not be a burden to anyone while we work in His ministry and our Lord should be our only help. He is our present help in trouble and need [Psalm 46:1]. If any one volunteers to provide for our ministry, we should be in a position to accept as Paul did

Page 24 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum with others. Also, we should live a minimal worldly life.Even though Paul had companions who traveled with him he provided for them.

Luke 10:8 says how Jesus asked his disciple to eat what is set before you by the hosts and do the ministry there.

Prayer: Dear Lord, please help us to be self reliant for the gospel of Christ and trust in you always for our need. Just like Jesus and Father God has been working until now, help us to work hard for the kingdom of God [John 5:17]

Subject: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 [Serving All Men] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 20 May 2020 01:06:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 19 For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the [e]law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without [f]law toward God, but under [g]law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became [h]as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 [Serving All Men] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 02 Jun 2020 22:15:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 [Serving All Men] Paul's Use of His Freedom 19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

Observation: Though Paul is free spritually and worldly he put him as servant to serve the lord. Paul ready to be a slave to win everyones heart. He desired to bring people into gods kingdom as many as possible.

Page 25 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum As a Jew, as a Romam, and as a Gentile. He dont want his origin, practices not to stop him preaching gospel to anybody. His only aim is how better to serve the lord. Normally servants obey to their masters. Here paul obeyed to god and also ready to serve others for the sake of christ. Any of his attire, attitude, personalities should not be a hurdle for others when he was preaching. Here paul not only obeying gods commandment but also get prepared to reach every others as they way they perfer.

Application: Our life style not only disturb fellow brothers also not to disturb non christians as they view us followers of christ. We have to do all this for the sake of the gospel, so that we can inherit the eternal blessings.

Acts 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"

Prayer: Lord god enable us to serve you by serving others

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 [Serving All Men] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 02 Jun 2020 23:33:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

We must understand that our focus must be on souls won. Our method can and will change but the message we present will NOT! Paul attitude was to share the Gospel with all people God placed in his path Paul understood he must focus his efforts on sharing God's message, and not worry HOW he does it... We must understand that it is our responsibility to share the Gospel! HOW we do it is NOT as important as THAT we do it...

But the Lord said to him, "Go! For this man is My chosen instrument to take My name to Gentiles, kings, and the Israelites.- Acts 9:15 This calling was fine with Paul & he accepted it because he was willing to take on the attitude of a servant.This calling was fine with Paul & he accepted it because he was willing to take on the attitude of a servant

18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, - Matthew 28:18

APPLICATION:

- We must share the gospel to whoever crossed in our path

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Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 [Serving All Men] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 03 Jun 2020 00:12:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) Humility and Servant attitude will help us to relate to anyone and also enable us to share the gospel. Jesus being God did not consider himself equality with God, but made himself of no reputation, taking the form of bond-servant and coming in the likeness of men. [Philippians 2:6-7] Jesus is gentle and lowly in heart [Matthew 11:29]

Similarly Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:19, talks about his servant attitude when sharing the gospel and bringing them into the knowledge of God. 2) Understand the needs of others and meet them at their state will give us opportunity to open up with them the gospel truth. Jesus was able to strike a conversation with Samaritan woman and she was amazed and said, "How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?" For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans. [John 4:9] Jesus was able to converse with Nicodemus freely and revealed him the greatest truth in John 3:16.

Jesus was not hesitant to touch the leper and cleanse him [Matthew 8:3] Jesus, when a Roman centurion approached him for his servant illness, was ready to go with him to his house and heal him. [Matthew 8:5-6]

Paul also was so approachable to any kind of people whether Jew (or) Gentile (or) King as defined in his calling from the Lord in Acts 9:15 [But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.]

Application:

We should have the attitude of servant-hood towards all because that is the first step God in Christ took to reach unto us. [Matthew 20:26-28, whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant. 27 And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave-- 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."]

Just like Jesus washed his disciples feet in the act of humility, we ought to serve one-another as in John 13:16, Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.

Sometimes, we have to endure the persecution just like our Lord endured during the act of our humility as described in John 15:20, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.

We should live a humble and approachable life to all for the sake of gospel.

Page 27 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Prayer: Dear Lord, please enable us to be like You and apostle Paul in terms of humility and approach-ability for others to share the gospel truth.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 [Serving All Men] Posted by isaac on Wed, 03 Jun 2020 00:28:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture 19 For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the [a]law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without [b]law toward God, but under [c]law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became [d]as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.

Observation Paul's show as an example of how we need to be humble while we serve God. Though we are not slaves to anyone but he's showing that he made himself a servant and he's doing it for the sake of God's ministry. Paul wants to ensure he's able to connect with all type of people and he doesn't want his behavior a stumbling block to spread the gospel. Unless we are able to connect with people and have a common ground we won't be able to open up for gospel. Even in 1 corinthians 8 we read if eating meat will make him a stumble block to the weak he don't want to do that though he has the freedom two do so. So the point is for the sake of God he's ready to sacrifice his personal choices.

Application We need to have similar passion for the gospel like Paul had and always look for opportunities to share the gospel

Prayer Lord help me to be instrument to preach your gospel and help me to connect to people so that I can share your gospel

Subject: 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 [Striving for a crown] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 03 Jun 2020 01:09:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may [i]obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize [j]is temperate in all

Page 28 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 [Striving for a crown] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 09 Jun 2020 23:03:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 [Striving for a crown] 24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may [i]obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize [j]is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

Observation: Christian life is like a race, we have to run through out the race. We will gain and loose speed often but we have to be steady in this race to complete this successfully on time. For perishable crown humans are scrificing many things in this world time, money, food, family. How much we have to sacrifice ourselves for eternal crown. we need to keep up the good faith and deeds till the end of our life to win over this race. we not only participate in this race we also bring others and help them to run their race.

Application: we are playing many roles in our life personal, family, work, society. But we should not forget we are also a runner in eternal race. are we equipped with required qualities to complete the race ? we need to fight with this world to complete our race successful. we have to preserve the good faith till our death.

2 Timothy 4:7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.

Prayer: Lord god enable us to run a race for you as well as for us to get the eternal crown.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 [Striving for a crown] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 09 Jun 2020 23:52:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS :

- Christian race that we are running demands a similar discipline. We have to be self disciplined

Page 29 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum so we don't just do what we like to make the flesh happy but subdue the flesh and train for this race always so we are in shape to be the best and win the crown Jesus has prepared for us. - Dont just do anything because you feel like it. Do it because it will help you compete in the best of shapes and win the race. Self discipline is a very difficult one but you need it to be the best so practice it - To teach others to discipline themselves and enforce certain strict rules to keep them in line is very easy but to discipline your own self to stay in line is very very difficult so be careful not discipline and control others to stay in shape whiles you fail to discipline your own self so that at the end of the competition, the others will attain the crown whiles you fail at attaining it.

APPLICATIONS

Hebrews 12:1-2 - Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

Our focus should be always with Jesus and setting our path towards him.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 [Striving for a crown] Posted by isaac on Tue, 09 Jun 2020 23:59:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Many will run in a race but only one receives the prize. We should not run since everyone is running rather we should run with a goal to achieve the prize. Paul is comparing our calling with running race on the earth. We know that even to win in an earthly race we need to prepare our body so much and we should put body through strict training and we go through so much struggle physically. In the way in our calling we need to put our spirit through strict training and refrain it from all the fleshly desires. As Paul states in verse 27 he has made his body his slave rather he becoming slave to his body. Even though he preach to others on how win the heavenly race he's ensuring that he doesn't slip away from attaining the prize.

Application : I need run the heavenly race with an intention and goal not just for the sake of running along with others. Also i understand that t i need to subject my body to strict training and cannot be lethargic and insensitive to sins. Especially when i preach to others i should not think that i'm good but rather examine myself spiritually and ensure i don't fall out from the calling

Prayer : God help me to run my race with intent and goal, help me stay in course and run away from my sinful nature so that i can attain the prize in the end

Page 30 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 [Striving for a crown] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:25:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) We should know the will of God when we start our life race in christian faith. Romans 12:1-2 explains the perfect and general will of God and how we have to transform into the image of Jesus. In Hebrews 2:10 also talks about bringing many sons to glory of Christ. Every believer should understand the calling that he is fulfilling in the sight of Lord.

2) One who endures till the end will be saved [Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13]. The one who finishes the course will get the crown of righteousness from the Lord [2 Timothy 4:7-8] Not the one who start well but the one who finish strong is the one who will be saved. Paul to the letter of Galatians talked about how they started well but got hindered by the strange doctrine regarding the observance of law including circumcison [Galatians 5:7]

3) We have to run the race with discipline and self control. Jesus our forerunner has set us an example in Hebrews 5:7-9 [who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him]

Application We should be concerned only about our end goal in our Christian faith walk that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. [1 John 3:2]. The one who calls us is faithful and He will sanctify us completely and preserve us to be blameless in our spirit, soul and body at His coming. [1 Thess 5:23-24]

All we have to do in order to stay in course and complete is to abide in Him. We have to keep growing and transformed from one level of glory to another in Christ.

Prayer: Dear Lord, please help us to complete the race as stated in Philippians 2:13, for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

Subject: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:1-13] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:55:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

Page 31 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us [a]tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now [b]all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our [c]admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to [d]bear it.

Subject: Re: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:1-13] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:39:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:1-13] 1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us [a]tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now [b]all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our [c]admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Observation:

Paul is describing how isralites were blessed when they obey the lord. Also he stated how they get sufferered when they turn away from the lord.

Page 32 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum They experienced the wonders of our living god throught ut their jouney on wilderness. They had spritual food and drink. But they get punishes when turn away from god and look into evil things like idolatery, sexual immorality, complain against god, etc we have to vigilant no worldly things overtaken us from god.

Application: we should not lust after evil things, do not become idolaters, do not commit sexual immorality, do not tempt , do not complain

Our god is faithful god he never put us in situation beyond our ability. He is near to help. God is able to make everything from nothing.

Psalm 37:28 For the Lord loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones. Wrongdoers will be completely destroyed; the offspring of the wicked will perish.

Here we see god brought isralites to the promised land. Also he perished all wicked people.

Prayer:

Lord god escape us from all the temptations of this world

Subject: Re: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:1-13] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:29:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

In the context Paul talks about a number of historical events in the lives of the Israelites. And then he tells us why it is important to know these things.So Old Testament history is there to keep us on track. It is a call for all of us to learn from our Spiritual ancestors - and especially be aware that we can just as easily fall into the same traps which they fell into.The reason we do so, ultimately, is that the Bible is one story.The Old Testament and New Testament are not two separate stories ... they are one story.Because, ultimately, all history is God's history. And the history which is recorded in the Scriptures is specifically a history that is significant for us ... even today

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

1 Corinthians 10:13 Paul tells us temptation is "common to man." While temptation is not common in the sense that we are all tempted by the same sin or trial, it is common in the sense

Page 33 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum that it happens to all of us, without fail! . It happened to Adam and Eve, the first people ever created.Even Jesus experienced temptation. if Jesus was tempted, the problem must not be with being tempted! It's not sinning to simply be tempted. The problem concerns how we RESPOND to temptation.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.- 1 Peter 5:7

APPLICATIONS:

God gave us lot of examples in the bible for us to understand what is good and Evil. We need to obey and walk with God each and every day. The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: -Lamentations 3:22-23 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.-Isaiah 64:6

Subject: Re: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:1-13] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:17:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

These verses showed us negative examples of how we ought not to be in our faith life similar to the uplifting examples mentioned in Hebrews hall of faith chapter 11. In Timothy 3:16, we know that All scripture is given by the inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

There is a saying about old testament that "it is new testament concealed" and about the new testament that "it is old testament revealed". Hence all the scripture is profitable for all of us to lead a Christ centric life instead of self-centric life.

Considering all the falleness of people, we should not think highly of ourselves [Galatians 6:1-3 / Romans 12:3]. We should have the fear of Lord and only through the grace of Lord we are alive and sustained.

When we are tempted, our Lord will provide way of escape and we won't let us bear more than what we can handle. He is our faithful God and He will keep our whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless. [1 Thessalonians 5:23-24]

Applications:

1) We should not lust after evil things. As in Philippians 4:8, we have to think and meditate on things that are true, noble, just, pure, lovely, virtue, good report and praise worthy.

2) We should not become idolaters. As in Colossians 3:5, we have to put to death the members

Page 34 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Let Christ be our pre-eminence and we should love the Lord with all our heart.

3) We should not commit sexual immorality. As in 1 Corinthians 6:18-19, Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Holy Spirit dwells in our body and we are not our own.

4) We should not tempt Christ like what it described in Numbers 21:6, And the people spoke against God and against Moses: "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread." So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people. As in Matthew 4, Jesus was led by the Spirit into wilderness to be tempted by the devil

5) We should not complain as Israelite's did in old testament. As in Philippians 4:11-12, Paul has learned to be content whatever the circumstances and in any and every situation whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. We can do all things through Him who gives us strength.

Prayer: Dear Lord, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, help us to lay aside every weight and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and help us to run the race by looking unto Jesus.

Subject: Re: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:1-13] Posted by isaac on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:39:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation Just because we are part of a good fellowship or church or a great christian family doesn't mean that you will be saved and pleasing to God. Our action really mattters. We could be receiving the good message and fed with Spiritual food but we need to vey cautious about what we allow in our mind and what our actions result in. Each and every minute we need to guard our mind and body. We need to realize that we can still live a holy in this messed up world by keeping the word of God. We should not get complacent that's why Paul says "Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall"

Application We need to examine ourself every day and correct ourself and ensure we are keeping the standards what Jesus has set for us in Mathew 6

Prayer Lord help me to be Holy as you are Holy. Help me to incline towards and you word and obey your word strictly

Subject: Flee from Idolatry [1 Corinthians 10:14-22]

Page 35 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Posted by john.svk on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:24:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the [e]communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we, though many, are one bread and one body; for we all partake of that one bread.

18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices [f]partakers of the altar? 19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? 20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord's table and of the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?

Subject: Re: Flee from Idolatry [1 Corinthians 10:14-22] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 23 Jun 2020 22:26:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS It is the temptation that Paul is concerned with. The form in which the Corinthians are engaging in idolatry is participation in religious meals at the many pagan temples. Paul's admonition: "Flee." Get away from this practice as fast as you can. He has already demonstrated what happens to idolaters. He now explains how it is that they are committing idolatry.Our partaking of the two elements the cup and the bread is a ritual by which we participate in the blood and body of Christ.The "cup of blessing" is the communion cup. verse 16, the emphasis is on our participation, or communion, with the blood and body of Christ. What does that mean? It means that through the sacraments, we by faith participate in the benefits of Christ's new covenant.

There is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread. Paul speaks in verse 16 of the bread broken. The bread is broken for what purpose? So that all the believers may partake. The bread represents what? The body of Christ. Therefore, the act expressions that we have fellowship together through Christ. The one loaf makes us one body in ChristThe gods of the pagans are no gods. But, don't be so naive as to think there is no spiritual activity behind false worship. Do not forget Satan and his demons. Remember, as Paul told the Ephesians, We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places - Ephesians 6:12

APPLICATIONS Following Christ is about denying ourselves, taking up our crosses, and following Jesus whatever the cost. That is not law. That is commitment. That is real faith that Jesus is all he says he is and has done all that he has promised. There was a spiritual world and we should not give any space for the demons to enter into our life

Page 36 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: Flee from Idolatry [1 Corinthians 10:14-22] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 23 Jun 2020 22:42:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: Old Testament Examples [1 Corinthians 10:14-22] 14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the [e]communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we, though many, are one bread and one body; for we all partake of that one bread.

Observation:

Beware of idolatry. It is not just worshipping it is also accepting, not rejecting, idols we can not part of idols worshipping we believe in truine god we are part of christ we share his spirit. Jesus died for each one of us for our sins and to redeemp us. we can not practice both in christ and others in our life. we are body of christ, jesus is our head and we can not be part of any other faith we can not partner with both good and evil, light and dark, truth and false ...

Application: the very first commandment god says there is no other god than me flee from idolatry in any form nothing should gets priority more than god

Exodus 20 3 "You shall have no other gods before[a] me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

Prayer: knowing or un knowingly we should not be submissive to any idolatry. Lord god shed your light on our path.

Page 37 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: Flee from Idolatry [1 Corinthians 10:14-22] Posted by isaac on Tue, 23 Jun 2020 23:59:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : We need to flee from any sort of Idolatry. Nothing is above God so anything we give importance to which is more than God then that will become our Idol so we should be cautious and flee that which is an idol to us. Breaking bread and drinking from the same cup in the communion signifies the unity we have among our brethren. Though we might be from different diversity and background we all are united and are equal in the sight of God. Paul is insisting us to be careful of taking part in the food and drink offered to Idols. We cannot drink in Lord's cup as well as in devil's cup. He doesn't want us to provoke God.

Application : Only God should be our priority in our life and nothing should take higher place in our life other than God. If we have something which is idol in our life we need to get rid of it. We all need to be united in Christ, if we have differences we should not mind rather be united in Christ. We cannot serve both world and God so we need to stick to things which pleases God rather than which pleases our flesh and world.

Subject: Re: Flee from Idolatry [1 Corinthians 10:14-22] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 24 Jun 2020 00:24:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Any believer who becomes the follower of God should not partake the food offered to the idols either through the association with non-believers or through their practices and rituals. We should be under the headship of Lord Christ in Church fellowship.

Paul also referred this in 2 Corinthians 6:14 with the following words, Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what [c]communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?

Anything that takes the pre-eminence place of God in our heart is idol. Jesus himself mentioned in Matthew 6:24 that, No one can serve two masters for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon (Wealth)

Earth bound mindset is also idolatry per Colossians 3:5, Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Application: As much as God loved the world that He has given His only son for the redemption of those who believes.Even though we are in the world and love the people and share the gospel but we are

Page 38 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum not of the world. Our thoughts and mindset should be heaven bound and we should have fellowship with one another in the body of Christ [Church] not with the ones outside the body of God.

Prayer: Dear Lord, help us to have a godly fellowship that pleases You and be the partaker of divine nature of Christ.

Subject: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 [All to the Glory of God] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 24 Jun 2020 02:25:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 23 All things are lawful [g]for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things [h]edify. 24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's well-being.

25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake; 26 for "the earth is the Lord's, and all its fullness."

27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience' sake. 28 But if anyone says to you, "This was offered to idols," do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience' sake; [i]for "the earth is the Lord's, and all its fullness." 29 "Conscience," I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man's conscience? 30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 [All to the Glory of God] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:05:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

Paul lived a life to be able to please all men by not making their conscience fight against them because of his words and acts.He lived by their level of Christian knowledge. He didn't act like he knew so much and could do anything he wanted. He was mindful of the spiritual position of all he dealt with. Paul's aim was for everybody to be saved and for everybody to enjoy his Christianity, level of knowledge in Jesus Christ and progress steadily in this knowledge as they mature in the Lord.So Paul will teach them and allow them to learn and grow into what our Father wants but will not force them or push them into it by his words and actions.

Jesus led all he encountered this way when He was on earth. He dealt with everybody in a way

Page 39 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum that will lead them to salvation so they may have life and have it more abundantly.*ITS ALL ABOUT JESUS* and no one else. Beloved let us live our lives as Jesus and Paul did. We don't have to push people into what we feel or know is right. Let us lead them into it as they learn and mature into it so that they will live what we lead them into not by force or by fear but by understanding and in joy.

APPLICATIONS

* Is my behavior constructive to other people? * Am I looking out for self or the other person? * Does my behavior point others to God? * Does my behavior cause others to stumble?

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 [All to the Glory of God] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:02:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 [All to the Glory of God]

23 All things are lawful [g]for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things [h]edify. 24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's well-being.

25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake; 26 for "the earth is the Lord's, and all its fullness."

Observation: There are things may be lawful in our life but they are neither help ful nor worthy as we consider And those things should not be a stumbling block in our christian life. we need to think about others well being, considering fellow christians. eat whatever you want but your acts should not disturb felow brethern but if you have a question in your conscience they dont do that. It may disturbs others

Page 40 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Application: your attitude should not disturb fellow brothers as well as non believers what ever we do, we have to do it for the glory of god Do not seek your own profit, seek the profits of many.

Prayer:

Lord god help us to live a life for the sake of christ and for the sake of christians

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 [All to the Glory of God] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:42:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) We should not seek our own (selfish and self centered) but others well being. Even Christ did not come to be served but to serve (Matthew 20:28, Mark 10:45) Jesus said He is the good shepherd and the good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. (John 10:11) Similarly, Just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise. (Luke 6:31)

2) Paul wants to bear one another according to their spiritual growth. "Conscience," I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man's conscience? But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?. He also addressed that in Romans 15:1, We then who are strong ought to bear with the scruples of the weak.

3) Paul here not only want to seek others well being but please all men in all things you do. Romans 15:2-3 says, Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, leading to [b]edification. 3 For even Christ did not please Himself; but as it is written, "The reproaches of those who reproached You fell on Me."

Application: 1) We have to be lowly as Christ and our Pastor used to say this during early part of my Christian walk is we have to be door mat outside the church, where people should dust their dirt on us and step in to the church to worship Lord. This is very appropriate similar to the action that Jesus did when He washed disciples feet [John 13:1-17]

2) It is better to give thanks to our Lord and accept things either food or any things from others because through that it becomes sanctified irrespective of where the source of the food or the things.

3) Just like Paul who always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men [Acts 24:16]. Also, Christ Now the chief priests and all the council sought testimony against Jesus to put Him to death, but found none.[Mark 14:55]

Prayer: Dear Lord, please help us to imitate you as you did to others in terms of serving and sacrificing

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Subject: 1 Corinthians [11:1-16] Head Coverings Posted by john.svk on Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:59:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

Head Coverings 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. 6 For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord. 12 For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God.

13 Judge among yourselves. Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him? 15 But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given [a]to her for a covering. 16 But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians [11:1-16] Head Coverings Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:35:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: - 1 Corinthians [11:1-16] Head Coverings Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ. Head Coverings 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. 6 For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this reason the

Page 42 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord. 12 For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God.

Observation:

Paul asked us to follow him becasue he followed jesus christ in his life head of every man is Christ, the head of wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God, so we are part of christ in the Lord neither is husband independent of wife, nor wife independent of husband, all are dependent in lorg god woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but eventually all of us come are from God. So we respectful on each other.

Application: we need to imitate christ in our life our life has to be a testimony rather than our words for others to follow we never ever try to dishonour our head, christ and lord god.

Prayer:

Lord god help us to be mindful to honour you lord, christ jesus and our spouse.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians [11:1-16] Head Coverings Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:17:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:: The concept of authority and submission originated out of creation and out of the nature of God; thus it remains valid in the new age of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, when a woman does practice an activity that carries with it a measure of authority, she is to wear a symbol of being under authority. That is the purpose of the head covering. The particular issue of the text has to do with a custom that distinguished between a man publicly praying/prophesying and a woman praying/prophesying. In particular Paul is dealing with a situation in the Corinth Church in which women are not following the custom of the day by neglecting to wear some kind of head covering while they prophesied. That is the issue.

There was lot of controversies about woman head covering. But as a Christian, we should take as it is and follow our life. Tradition talk about Freedom and why woman only?

Page 43 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum But we are not loosing anything because of covering head. We are still showing to the world that i am under authority and glorify God.

APPLICATION: - We should follow the word of God and ask our self Am i doing this for my Pride or not? -God has given order for us to live in this life. -Jesus is head of our houses and House of God. -Both Husband and Wife to bring Glory to him only.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians [11:1-16] Head Coverings Posted by isaac on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:25:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Not many preachers will say follow me as i follow Christ. We would have seen great preaching by many people but very rarely we will see servants of God leading by example. So its a great example set by Paul so we should not only preach the gospel but be a living example for the people who want to follow Jesus Christ. When we read that Woman should submit to Man that doesn't mean Men are superior and Women are not rather we should compare the sample of the relationship between Jesus and the Father, where Jesus submitted himself to God so we should follow the principles set specifically for Men and Women and we should show that discipline and be an example to others

Application : We need to be an example to others in all aspects of our life. Both Men and Women are equal before God but still follow the discipline laid out in the Bible

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians [11:1-16] Head Coverings Posted by john.svk on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:49:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Keeping Godly traditions [teachings] according to our hearts Paul and early church apostles establish new teachings / instructions / traditions according to the leading of Holy Spirit and to bring order in the church. We should take that into our hearts and do it in the conscience of our spirits but not in just a mere ritualistic and legalistic nature. Some churches do have washing of one another feet during communion, wearing white clothes but we should exhibit that kind of behavior as the act of symbolism to our humbleness towards one another. We should follow the teachings of Apostles to edify one another but not to get into contentious arguments.

2) We are one in Christ We are one in Christ regarding salvation but there are some orders that our Lord established in

Page 44 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Church regarding our calling and the positional authorities just like God the Father being the head of Christ. Similarly, there is a verse we know that whoever sees Christ sees Father [John 14:9] and hence they are equal in nature but different in personal functions. Anything that helps us to exhibit humbleness, submissiveness, love then we should do that in whole heartedness. [Paul don't want this to be contentious in the church]

3) Paul started by saying that all his teachings are based on being the imitator of Christ. We should not be so hard on insisting traditions and similarly we should not be rebellious in following non-essential things from the word of God. But, we should not be compromised to absolute truth like divinity of Christ.

Application: Whatever we do and follow we do that for the Lord. [Colossians 3:23-24] We are all one in Christ as every knee should bow at the coming of our Lord. [Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, as we are one in Christ Jesus.]

Prayer: Dear Lord, help us to do everything to glorify Your name. So, whether we eat or drink or whatever we do, do it all for the glory of God. [1 Corinthians 10:31]

Subject: [1 Corinthians 11:17-33] - Lord's Supper Posted by john.svk on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:07:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Conduct at the Lord's Supper 17 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be [b]recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord's Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame [c]those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.

Institution of the Lord's Supper 23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, [d]"Take, eat; this is My body which is [e]broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me." 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.

Examine Yourself 27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be

Page 45 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum guilty of the body and [f]blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks [g]in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the [h]Lord's body. 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many [i]sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

33 Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. 34 But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, lest you come together for judgment. And the rest I will set in order when I come.

Subject: Re: [1 Corinthians 11:17-33] - Lord's Supper Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 21 Jul 2020 22:30:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATION: The Lord's Supper reminds us that we participate with God through Jesus in our Christian walk but also with our fellow Christians. Purpose of communion : Remember the suffering and death of Jesus Christ- 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. Braking Bread - Unity Self examination and confession -1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. Mat 3:8 Do those things that will show that you have turned from your sins Look forward his Return -Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

APPLICATION::

We are all in One Body of Christ. Each one of us understand the real meaning of communion and live accordingly. The Lord's Table is a table of triumph, and so as we partake today, let's do so with a joyful heart remembering what Jesus did for us upon the cross, as He took our place and died our death so that we can have eternal life with Him in heaven. "Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits -- who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases" (Psalm 103:2-3 NIV)

Subject: Re: [1 Corinthians 11:17-33] - Lord's Supper

Page 46 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:17:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: - [1 Corinthians 11:17-33] - Lord's Supper

Conduct at the Lord's Supper 17 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be [b]recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord's Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame [c]those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.

Examine Yourself 27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and [f]blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks [g]in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the [h]Lord's body. 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many [i]sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

Observation: Paul talks about purpose of the communion and how to treat this union Paul urges to come together as a church irrespective of all our differences mainly rich or poor. In god we all are equal. We are not just sharing food but we are sharing love of jesus among us and take part of his body and blood as well as in his spirit. We restore the oneness with jesus, that he is our head and we are the church as his body. We proclaim the Lord's death and his resurrection at the cross. Communion proclaims the victory of christ over sin Purpose of communion is to remember jesus and his sacrifice to mankind.

Page 47 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum also examine ourselves declare your sins- if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. And when you neglect there is sertious consiquences

Application: we should come together as a body of christ and partake in lords supper We should understabd the importance and neccessity of this communion we should not par take in communion in an unworthy manner we should encourage fellow bretherns to take part in communion

Prayer:

Lord god we have to partake in your supper with our full conscience in remembrance of you.

Subject: Re: [1 Corinthians 11:17-33] - Lord's Supper Posted by john.svk on Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:40:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Passover Supper Our Jesus Christ instituted Lord's supper to eat the Passover dinner. Also, this helps us to remember the suffering of our Lord as an unblemished sacrificial lamb for our sins. Just like Israel celebrates Passover as their redemption from the bondage of Egypt, we as the children of God, revered this supper to remember our redemption of Sin.

2) Selfish Recognition and Division Instead of doing this in remembrance of our Lord, Corinthians treated this as a regular supper and use this to promote their selfish recognition. Also, the divisions among them needs to be addressed and do everything in church as one body in unison.

3) Self Judgement This will give us an opportunity to self judge and reconcile with our Lord before we partake in Lord's communion.

Application: This communion is one thing that Jesus himself called us to remember his sacrifice and very much similar to 3 major Jewish festivals in Passover, feast of weeks / Pentecost and feast of tabernacles. We should participate it with full reverence similar to How Jews honor those holidays (or) else they should be cut off from being called an Israeli. Jesus also mentioned that in Matthew 26:29 like "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom.". So Jesus is also looking forward to have this again with all the believers and we should also look forward for His return when we participate in Lord's supper.

Page 48 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Prayer: Dear Lord, thanks for instituting this Lord's supper and the blessings that come with it.

Subject: 1 Corinthians 12 [Unity and Diversity in One Body] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 22 Jul 2020 01:02:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant: 2 You know that[a] you were Gentiles, carried away to these dumb[b] idols, however you were led. 3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus [c]accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

4 There are [d]diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works [e]all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by [f]the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

Unity and Diversity in One Body 12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink [g]into one Spirit. 14 For in fact the body is not one member but many.

15 If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? 18 But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. 19 And if they were all one member, where would the body be?

20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you." 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no [h]schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28 And God has appointed these in

Page 49 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 12 [Unity and Diversity in One Body] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:32:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture: 1 Corinthians 12 [Unity and Diversity in One Body]

Observation:

Paul wants us to understand the different spiritual gifts. only through holy spirit we can accept Jesus christ as lord and saviour. so we should ask for spiritual gifts. There are different spiritual gifts but the sprit is same, ministries - lord, activities - god word of wisdom, word of knowledge, faith, gifts of healings, working of miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, different kinds of tongues, the interpretation of tongues but all shared from the same holy spirit though there are many organs the body is one. same way we are from different backgrounds but we are babtized as one body as church with in one sprit as body contructed by different kind of organs the church also built by us having outward difference in us. No organ neither great and nor low. ech organ has its very own function to perform and as a whole they are functioning as a body. All parts are important. Pain in one part felt by all others. same way there are many roles. God assigned the role based on their ability. apostles, prophets, teachers, miracles, gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. But we all of acts as a whole as body of christ.

Application: we should desire for spritual gifts As we are part of christ we have to take care of one another. if one member suffers, all the members suffer, or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it. we are individually as a member/organ and as a whole we are part of body of christ the church.

Prayer:

Lord eventhough we have differences in various aspects bless us with one mind and one sprit with in you lord.

Page 50 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 12 [Unity and Diversity in One Body] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:48:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

- Spiritual gifts make believer strong and bring unity - I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong-- 12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other's faith.- Romans 1: 11,12

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.- Romans 8:26 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal -2 Corinthians 4:18

- For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.- Ephesians 6:12

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come - John 16:13

But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) However, even though the Holy Spirit made us one in Christ and gave us spiritual gifts that we must use for one another's edification, we must still labor to keep this unity in the Spirit. Paul said this: "Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace" (Ephesians 4:3).

APPLICATION

- Holy Sprit is a helper to help us to overcome all our sins and temptation. - We are wrestle against spiritual forces, so we need to seek holy spirit earnestly -Holy sprit produces many gifts and it will help us bring unity

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 12 [Unity and Diversity in One Body] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 29 Jul 2020 01:50:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Holy Spirit is crucial for our Salvation With the Spirit we are acknowledged that we are children of God. [Romans 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Page 51 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum ] Also, Galatians 4:6 says, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, [b]"Abba, Father!"

2) Identification of spirit of Antichrist I John 4:3, every spirit that does not confess [a]that Jesus [b]Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist

3) Ministries of Holy Spirit According to God's will, Holy Spirit provides the gifts and manifests for the profit of all and empowers them in everyone. Depending on God's sovereignity, Holy Spirit God provides gifts according to His will as it says in Romans 2:11 For there is no partiality with God.

4) Unity among various Spiritual gifts Paul compares the various gifts that are operate under same Holy Spirit with whole body with different members, so also in Christ. With one Spirit we were all baptized into one body whether Jews or Gentiles, free or slaves. Similarly, God appointed these ministries in Church: Apostles, Prophets, Teachers and Miracle workers, Interpreters of tongues. But the head of church is Christ. (Colossians 1:18)

Application: Above all we should seek Holy Spirit and Jesus for our ministry and walk on the earth. We are not seeing God for his Spiritual gifts (or) His ministries but because of Who He is and What He has done for us.

God will give us the fullness of His Spirit and as mentioned in Romans 8:32, He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Also, Jesus mentioned in Luke 11:13, If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!"

Let us seek the giver of gifts and ministries who is Holy Spirit.

John the Baptist was filled with Holy Spirit even in his mother's womb. Although, John didn no miracles he revealed Christ to the world. He spoke of Jesus Christ through Holy Spirit...[John 10:41 - Then many came to Him and said, "John performed no sign, but all the things that John spoke about this Man were true."]

Prayer: Dear Lord, please help us to walk in the fullness of Holy Spirit like Jesus who was full of Holy Spirit [Luke 4:1]

Subject: 1 Corinthians 13 [The Greatest Gift - Love] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 29 Jul 2020 01:51:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become

Page 52 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body [a]to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not [b]puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, [c]thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is [d]perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [The Greatest Gift - Love] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:49:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture:

1 Corinthians 13 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body [a]to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

Page 53 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Observation:

Paul urge here love is the greater than anything and all have to practice that in our life. If we have love all laws can fit into that. love has great qualities. It removes all odds and make us equal infront of god. As we grow in maturity when we are aging the love also should grow in our life day by day.

Luke 10:27 He answered, "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

Love is the greatest commandment. Thats why god created us in his image. God shed his blood for us. He filled us with his promises. He offered us the eternal life. He called us sons an daughters.He is still loving us and it never fades. Ephesians 1:15 For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all God's people,

In OT it talks about loving god. In NT Jesus talks about loving fellow brothers. if we love god then only we can able to love others.

Application: christians needs to practice love in their life we should abide faith, hope, love in our life. We should apply faith over god, love over people, then we can have hope over eternal. its all interchangeble.

Prayer:

God bless us with your divine love

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [The Greatest Gift - Love] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:57:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' No other commandment is greater than these. - Mark 12-31 A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another.- John 13-34

Page 54 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. -John 15:13 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. - Romans5:8

APPLICATIONS :

- Whatever we do, we should do with love - The end of all things is near. Therefore be alert and of sober mind so that you may pray. Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.(1Peter 4:7-8) - Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.-Proverbs3:34)

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [The Greatest Gift - Love] Posted by isaac on Tue, 18 Aug 2020 23:49:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Summary of Chapter 13 is revealed by Paul in the last verse of the previous chapter where he talks about Spiritual gifts. "And yet I will show you the most excellent way" In 1 John 4:20 we read "Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen" So it is evident that one who shows that he loves God and doesn't love his brother or sister is a hypocrite

Application : Whatever attributes of Love explained here are the reflection of Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross so our goal is to become like Christ in loving others who have done wrong to us

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [The Greatest Gift - Love] Posted by isaac on Wed, 19 Aug 2020 00:18:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Summary of Chapter 13 is revelaed by Paul in the last verse of the previous chapter where he talks about Spiritual gifts. "And yet I will show you the most excellent way" In 1 John 4:20 we read "Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen" So it is evident that one who shows that he loves God and doesn't love his brother or sister is a

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Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 13 [The Greatest Gift - Love] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 19 Aug 2020 00:40:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) Greatest Gift - Even though 1 Corinthians 12 talks about various spiritual gifts, Paul here talked about more excellent gift than all the 9 gifts in the closing end of that chapter. (1 Corinthians 12:31 - But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.). With that being said, Love can be considered as another Spiritual gifts which the first fruit of Spirits is also as mentioned in Galatians 5:22.

2) Christ summarized the laws in to 2 love-based commandments. (Mark 12:30-31). Apostles Paul, John and Peter constantly emphasizes the excellency on Agape` love in their letters where Apostle John dedicated a book (1 John) and Paul various chapters (1 Corinthians 13, Romans 13:8-10)

1 Peter 4:8 - Agape`(Love) covers over the multitude of sins.

1 John 4:17-18 - Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear

3) When we see our Lord face to face, we might not need any of these 9 spiritual gifts because we will be like Him as He is sharing the divine nature of Christ (Love, humble, gentle etc.,) - 1 John 3:2 When we mature in Christ and Christ goes in us, then we should be exhibiting our Lord's perfect (complete) nature and love plays a vital role in that. Matthew 5:43-48.

Application: We should strive to grow and mature in Love, Faith and Hope as we see in this chapter. If we don't love, we don't know God as our God is Love (1 John 4:8). Without Faith it is impossible to please Him (Hebrews 11:6)

God will provide us Spiritual gifts to edify others according to the ministry he called us into. But He wants everyone to love Him and He wants us to have "Lord" as our first Love because He first loved us.

Prayer: Dear Lord, please help us to understand your Love and through that knowledge and wisdom enable us to grow in your Love.

Page 56 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: 1 Corinthians 14 [Prophecy and Tongues] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 19 Aug 2020 01:02:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 14 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men. 4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; [a]for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

Tongues Must Be Interpreted 6 But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching? 7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played? 8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle? 9 So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. 10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without [b]significance. 11 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a [c]foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. 12 Even so you, since you are [d]zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the [e]edification of the church that you seek to excel.

13 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. 16 Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? 17 For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.

18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; 19 yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

Tongues a Sign to Unbelievers 20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.

21 In the law it is written:

"With men of other tongues and other lips I will speak to this people; And yet, for all that, they will not hear Me," says the Lord.

22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying

Page 57 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum is not for unbelievers but for those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are [f]out of your mind? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 [g]And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you.

Order in Church Meetings 26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for [h]edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 30 But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of [i]confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

34 Let [j]your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.

36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But [k]if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.

39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 14 [Prophecy and Tongues] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 25 Aug 2020 23:42:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS::

Paul teaches about two features of the worship service in Corinth tongues and prophecy and discusses their value or importance. Spiritual Gifts: 1) varied. 2) come from God. 3) The gifts are to help others / help the church. -So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers,- Ephesians 4:11 - Tongue edifies individual and prophesies edifies the church -Tongues must be interpreted - Tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe -God is not the author of [i]confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints (More Prophets)

Page 58 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum - All these gifts given to us as free of gift and it was not earned by someone. So we should not be proud of the gifts.

APPLICATIONS

- We should seek for Spiritual gifts from God. - We should use them for Personal and Church edification. - Christ is the source for all gifts and we should rely on him for each gifts

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 14 [Prophecy and Tongues] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 00:01:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts: 1 Corinthians 14 [Prophecy and Tongues]

Observation: Paul asked us to desire spiritual gifts after possessing love. Spiritual gifts are given for benefits for all not just for individuals.

Acts 19:6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.

Tongues are sign for unbelievers; prophesying is for believers.

2 Peter 1:20,21 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Prophecy is not just about the future it is about God's revelation.

He who prophesies comfort church but he who speaks in tongues edifies himself. Everbody can understand prophecy. But the tongue can understandable only when it gets interpreted. So paul emphasizes prophecy than the tongue. instruments can convey distinct feel or messages to others, in that way we humans should convey the exact messages to others.

We should use spiritual gifts appropriate to the situations and the audience. Our actions should

Page 59 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum please our god. we should be praying and singing not only with the holy spirit but also with great understanding. Also, we have to mature in spiritual gifts day by day.

Application: we should desire for spiritual gifts, like prophecy and tongues Tongues must be interpreted, clearly communicated to others. so others can grow in faith. the church has to grow using spiritual gifts. We should also have fruits of the spirit to effectively use spiritual gifts in our life.

Prayer Lord bless us with spiritual gifts and fruits of the spirit.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 14 [Prophecy and Tongues] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 00:49:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1. Love, Prophecy and Tongues [1 Corinthians 14:1,18,39] We must seek and pursue Love, Tongues [self-edification] and Prophecy [Church Edification] in that order so we will be ready for the kingdom of God and equip others also to it.

2. Working Usage [Operations] of Prophecy Vs. Tongues One who speaks in tongues in church environment might not be helpful for others who hear because no one understands what he speaks. Hence interpretation is required to build up / edify fellow people in church. We ought to speak in tongues for our own edification in our own setting / environment. One who speaks prophecy the words of understanding will help convict (or) comfort those who hear thus edifying the church.

3. Order of exercising Spiritual gifts. Paul request the church to have 2 or 3 people prophecy one at a time so all may learn and encourage. Also spirit of the prophets should be subject to the person who prophesies so there should not be anything done out of control. 1 Samuel 19:9,23,24 - Distressing spirit from the Lord came upon Saul, as he sat with his spear in his hand to pin God's anointed man "David" to the wall. But after some days, 23, Then the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on and prophesied until he came to Naioth in Ramah. 24, And he also stripped off his clothes and prophesied before Samuel in like manner and lay down naked all that day and all that night. We are just a vessel for Lord to fill us to edify others and it must be orderly and be subject to prophets.

4. Forbidding woman to prophecy / speak to all in Church setting. 1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.

Page 60 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum But in Acts 21:9, it talks about Philip's virgin daughters who prophesied. But Paul got word from a certain prophet named Agabus who revealed to Paul what would happen to him in Jerusalem in a church setting. Also, in 1 Timothy 2:12, we see "And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence."

Application: We should seek love [anointing of Love], faith and then all spiritual gifts including tongues and prophecy for the glory of our Lord. Above all we should do the will of God no matter what kind of gifts we have as that only guarantees our eternal life. [Matthew 7:21-22 21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!']

Also, we should know false prophets by their fruits. [Matthew 7:15 / Matthew 12:27] because even hypocrites like Pharisees was able to cast out demons. [Luke 10:20 - Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven."]

Prayer: Please help us to do your will and fill us with your love and enable us to exercise all spiritual gifts for your glory.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 14 [Prophecy and Tongues] Posted by isaac on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 00:51:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Paul talks about talking in tongues and Prophecy which are the spiritual gifts. Tongue is primarily for self edification rather Prophecy is for others so each gift has its own purpose and function. Again not everyone will have all the gifts which is what Paul talks about in Chapter 12. Even in today's church people who are not talking in tongues are seemed to be less holy than one who speaks in tongues which doesn't seem to align with the scripture.

Application : Ask God to use us for his Glory and none of the gifts which God gives should not lead us to pride but rather to edify ourself and others in the church

Subject: 1 Corinthians 15:1-28 [Risen Christ, Faith's Reality] Posted by john.svk on Tue, 01 Sep 2020 23:50:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received

Page 61 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you--unless you believed in vain.

3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by [a]Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have [b]fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time.

9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.

The Risen Christ, Our Hope 12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up--if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have [c]fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.

The Last Enemy Destroyed 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:1-28 [Risen Christ, Faith's Reality] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 08 Sep 2020 21:55:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATION . Jesus Christ who is God, became man, suffered and died, was buried, but rose from the dead to redeem us (to bring us back to God) It is very important that Jesus rose from the dead; that there is a resurrection of the dead because Jesus did it! If Jesus didn't live again, Christianity would just be a hoax! We as Christians believe

Page 62 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum in the reality of God who is life eternal because Jesus Christ rose from the dead. Jesus Christ is alive!!

9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.- Romans 10:9 25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; - John 11-25

All four gospels record the resurrection. Jesus in the gospels spoke about the resurrection. The book of Acts records the history of the preaching of the resurrection, that He arose from the dead in physical form, and so shall those who put their trust in Him. The epistles give us the explanation and the implications of the resurrection. The book of Revelation tells us where we're going to be in our risen form in the glories of the New Heaven and the New Earth that will be established by the risen Christ.

APPLICATION:

With the resurrection our life, our faith, our proclamation, and our gospel became the only truth in the world. We may have problems, we may have trials but this is the best life in this world. we will live with Christ forever. The moment We die, We will be with Jesus. Therefore, we will see our loved once in heaven and have fellowship with them. What a glorious hope we have through Jesus.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:1-28 [Risen Christ, Faith's Reality] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:30:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 1 Corinthians 15:1-28 [Risen Christ, Faith's Reality]

OBSERVATION

Paul talks about christ, his resurrection and gospel. christ has died for our sins and has risen on the third day. Many people witnessed his rise. Even today we are his living testimonies that christ is in us as holy spirit.

Though paul did mistakes in his past he was one of the great personality in bible who lived his life for preaching gospel of christ and finally paid his life for that. But Paul still believed in grace of god. we also put our faith and hope on christ becasue by his resurrection Christ had victory over sin. If we are still in sin it means we did not believe in christ victory over the sin.

APPLICATION Gospel is same for everyone and it needs to be preached to everybody in this world we need to long and pray for the grace of god christ is our only hope and God want us to action on his faith

Page 63 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum James 2:14-17 Faith and Deeds 14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, "Go in peace; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:1-28 [Risen Christ, Faith's Reality] Posted by isaac on Wed, 09 Sep 2020 00:20:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripture : 1 Corinthians 15 : 1 - 28

Observation : Without Jesus's resurrection Christianity is meaningless as Christ would have been deemed as someone who has martyred that what Paul states in verse 13 that our preaching will be useless and so is our faith. More than that we would have become liars as he states in Verse 14. If Christ was raised then we would have been still in sins and we would not have been redeemed. Christ's resurrection is the greatest hope since in Adam all die but in Christ all will be made alive. In verse 28 we read the Glorious submission of Jesus to God is an example that we need to do is to submit ourself to Jesus.

Application : We should not hope on God just for the earthly things but on the heavenly and greater things which God has called us for. We should not live not like the world thinking that there is no life after death but our greater hope we gained through Christ's resurrection so we should live as Jesus lived so that we can resurrect when Jesus comes back which is the greatest hope for any Christian

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:1-28 [Risen Christ, Faith's Reality] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 09 Sep 2020 00:34:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Christ's life, death, burial and resurrection is the foundation of our Christian belief and we should be in a position to defend what we believe as we see in 1 Peter 3:15, always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear. Resurrected Christ was seen by His apostles, 500 hundred brethren at once, James and various people at different times and occasions. Because of such an assurance, Apostles went through lot of sufferings and labors to defend the faith and preach the gospel.

Page 64 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 2) Jesus declaration that He is the resurrection and the life before He raised Lazarus from the tomb. Whoever believes in Him shall never die as in John 11:25. That is the only hope that we have as the children of God.

3) After conquering the last enemy that is death, Jesus declared in Matthew 28:18, And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Also, Romans 14:9, For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. Application:

Jesus said, because He live, we will live also [John 14:19], that is the living Hope because God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you. [1 Peter 1:3]

We are the living testimony because of the resurrection and if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies [d]through His Spirit who dwells in you. [Romans 8:10,11]

Prayer: Dear Lord, keep us in the living Hope as you are going to transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to Your glorious body, [Philippians 3:21]

Subject: 1 Corinthians 15:29-58 [Resurrection & Final Victory] Posted by john.svk on Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:45:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 29 Otherwise, what will they do who are baptized for the dead, if the dead do not rise at all? Why then are they baptized for the dead? 30 And why do we stand in [e]jeopardy every hour? 31 I affirm, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. 32 If, in the manner of men, I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantage is it to me? If the dead do not rise, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!"

33 Do not be deceived: "Evil company corrupts good habits." 34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

A Glorious Body 35 But someone will say, "How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?" 36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain--perhaps wheat or some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind [f]of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.

Page 65 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 40 There are also [g]celestial bodies and [h]terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made[i] of dust; the second Man is [j]the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the [k]man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we[l] shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.

Our Final Victory 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a [m]mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed-- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on in corruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory."

55 "O[n] Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?"

56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:29-58 [Resurrection & Final Victory] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 15 Sep 2020 22:23:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 1 Corinthians 15:29-58 [Resurrection & Final Victory]

OBSERVATION

Paul talks about resurrection.

Resurrection of jesus is great example for eternal life. we die in this world, resurrect and live in eternal.

Page 66 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

If there is no resurrection we dont need to suffer in this world. There will be no righteouness and sinful. We live and die. Resurrection gives us complete life. If there is no resurrection there will be no judgement. After this world are we going to eternal heaven or hell. we have born the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. The natural is first , and afterward the spiritual.

APPLICATION

Awake to righteousness, and do not sin Evil company corrupts good habits Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord. We have to run our race, We have to be in the race.

Prayer

Thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:29-58 [Resurrection & Final Victory] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 15 Sep 2020 23:50:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

Paul went on to give himself as an example. If there is no life after death, why would he (Paul) risk his life to preach a lie? Paul literally poured out his earthly life in order to spread the news that Jesus rose from the dead. Paul was imprisoned, beaten, stoned, and even thrown in an arena with wild beasts. All so he could spread the Good News that Jesus died for our sins and then rose from the dead.Because of the Resurrection, we have a New Identity in Jesus. And because of the Resurrection, we have New Purpose for living our life here on earth.

Jesus has risen from the dead! Jesus' teaching and promises are all authenticated ... by His resurrection! These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have a peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.- John 16:33

APPLICATIONS

Page 67 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum APPLICATIONS - We have new identity in christ - We should trust and believe him and word of God -Because he lives we also lives along with him. - From Now, we are not praying for Victory but we are praying from Victory

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 15:29-58 [Resurrection & Final Victory] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 16 Sep 2020 00:26:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Baptism refers to the symbolic reference of death to sin and raise up for the Christ. Romans 6:4 says, therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. If there is no hope in life after death, then the following statement from Lord Jesus contradicts: Matthew 22:32, 32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living." 33 And when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.

We will have glorious body during our resurrection and we shall be like Christ based on 1 John 3:2, Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

Hebrews 2:14 says, In as much then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil. Jesus overcame devil and Sin / judgement and he nailed it on the cross as in Colossians 2:14, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Application:

As we have looked up earlier, Peter talks about the living hope because of the resurrection to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you [1 Peter 1:3,4]. Hence, we should look forward for that inheritance and live in Hope. We have a blessed hope that our Lord is going to keep us until the coming of the Lord and we have such a confidence in this promise, 1 Thessalonians 5:23, 24 - God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it.

We have the comfort from this verse that, For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. [1 Thessalonians 4:16]

We live in confidence since Christ was seen by so many people even up to 500 brothers at once as we read in 1 Corinthians 15:6.

Page 68 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: 1 Corinthians 16 [Final Exhortations and Farewell] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:03:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Collection for the Saints 16 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come. 3 And when I come, whomever you approve by your letters I will send to bear your gift to Jerusalem. 4 But if it is fitting that I go also, they will go with me.

Personal Plans 5 Now I will come to you when I pass through Macedonia (for I am passing through Macedonia). 6 And it may be that I will remain, or even spend the winter with you, that you may send me on my journey, wherever I go. 7 For I do not wish to see you now on the way; but I hope to stay a while with you, if the Lord permits.

8 But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost. 9 For a great and effective door has opened to me, and there are many adversaries.

10 And if Timothy comes, see that he may be with you without fear; for he does the work of the Lord, as I also do. 11 Therefore let no one despise him. But send him on his journey in peace, that he may come to me; for I am waiting for him with the brethren.

12 Now concerning our brother Apollos, I strongly urged him to come to you with the brethren, but he was quite unwilling to come at this time; however, he will come when he has a convenient time.

Final Exhortations 13 Watch, stand fast in the faith, be brave, be strong. 14 Let all that you do be done with love.

15 I urge you, brethren--you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints-- 16 that you also submit to such, and to everyone who works and labors with us.

17 I am glad about the coming of Stephanas, Fortunatus, and Achaicus, for what was lacking on your part they supplied. 18 For they refreshed my spirit and yours. Therefore acknowledge such men.

Greetings and a Solemn Farewell 19 The churches of Asia greet you. Aquila and Priscilla greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house. 20 All the brethren greet you.

Greet one another with a holy kiss.

21 The salutation with my own hand--Paul's.

22 If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be [a]accursed. O[b] Lord, come!

23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. 24 My love be with you all in Christ Jesus.

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Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 16 [Final Exhortations and Farewell] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:42:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 1 Corinthians 16 [Final Exhortations and Farewell]

OBSERVATION

Support workers of god we should treat them equally, we never think them low or show partiality whatever you do for god, do everything with love Learn to obey to gods men. we need to recognize the workers and acknoledge their work for gods kingdom. we should give our first portion to god or keep it aside. we should have love of Jesus. Greet one another with a holy kiss. Our love be with all others in Christ Jesus.

APPLICATION

Watch, stand fast in the faith, be brave, be strong. Let all that you do be done with love for our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:15 For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all God's people,

Prayer

Psalm 40:11 Do not withhold your mercy from me, Lord; may your love and faithfulness always protect me.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with us.

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 16 [Final Exhortations and Farewell] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:48:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS : - believers were called on to help others going through difficult times. he faithful steward

Page 70 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum understands he/she has an obligation to help meet the needs of the brothers and sisters in Christ - "Come to you" (v.5), "Stay with you" (v.6), "Spend some time with you" (v.7). Everybody has a need for relationships/fellowship -Whatever God has shown you and called you to do, YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH HIS POWER! It might be tough. Nothing worth anything comes easy except your salvation. This is a battlefield and you are in the Lord's Army so endure hardness as a good soldier and fight on!

APPLICATIONS

- We have to help others when they are in need for ministry. - Need to ask God's direction for giving - Fellowship with believers - We can do it through his power

Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 16 [Final Exhortations and Farewell] Posted by john.svk on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 23:54:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Paul here reiterated the church gathering on the first day of the week similar to the reference being made at Acts 20:7 about breaking of bread on the first day of the week. Along with Galatians church, Paul asked Corinthian church to meet and collect offering on first day of the week which is again our Lord's resurrection day.

As much as Paul got the open door for ministry, he also faced many adversaries. Paul talked about the marks of the ministry in 2 Corinthians 6:8,9 as by honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers and yet true; as unknown and yet well known; as dying and behold we live.

Paul don't fail to commend his fellow workers and he is always appreciative of their ministry and wants church to welcome and honor them.

Paul also talked about the agape love and have church do everything through agape (divine, sacrificial) love.

Application: Paul in the letter to Romans 14:6. mentioned that some esteem one day over another. But as long as we do in love and do it for the Lord we give thanks to God.

We have to bless and greet the ministers of God especially those who labor for the kingdom of God. [1 Timothy 5:17 says Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.]

We should love the Lord and love the children of God just what Paul demonstrates in his life.

Page 71 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 1 Corinthians 16 [Final Exhortations and Farewell] Posted by isaac on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 23:54:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : In giving to God we should have a regular cadence in a disciplined way like monthly or some regular scheduled ones instead of saying I will whenever I like to give. Paul did not hesitate to continue his ministry in places where he had opposition. We should treat every servant of God with respect irrespective of their age and experience Key verse of this chapter is verse 13 and 14 " Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong. 14 Do everything in love"

Application : Need to be disciplined inn giving to God setting up regular cadence Even in the place where there are opposition we should continue God's minister Treat every servant of God with respect We need to fo everything in Love

Subject: 2 Corinthians 1:1-11 [Suffering] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 30 Sep 2020 01:03:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,

To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia:

2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Comfort in Suffering 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any [a]trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our [b]consolation also abounds through Christ. 6 Now if we are afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effective for enduring the same sufferings which we also suffer. Or if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation. 7 And our hope for you is steadfast, because we know that as you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.

Delivered from Suffering 8 For we do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, of our [c]trouble which came to us in Asia: that we were burdened beyond measure, above strength, so that we despaired even of life. 9 Yes, we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead, 10 who delivered us from so great a death, and [d]does deliver us; in whom we trust that He will still deliver us, 11 you also helping together in prayer for us, that thanks may be given by many persons on [e]our behalf for the gift granted to us through many.

Page 72 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:1-11 [Suffering] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 06 Oct 2020 22:41:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts: 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,

To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia:

2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Comfort in Suffering 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any [a]trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our [b]consolation also abounds through Christ. 6 Now if we are afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effective for enduring the same sufferings which we also suffer. Or if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation. 7 And our hope for you is steadfast because we know that as you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.

Observation: lord Jesus christ provides Grace and peace God provides us comfort through his abundant mercies when we are facing troubles and tribulations. As children of God we sufferings in this world. the same way we should comfort others in their troubles and tribulations. when we have sufferings for christ we also have consolation within christ. All these sufferings and consolation for christ will lead us into eternal salvation. For Christ, we may be burdened beyond measure, above our strength. But in god, we will be raised over death. God will deliver us from all our burdens.

Application:

We should comfort others in their troubles and tribulations. We have to pray for others

Prayer

Page 73 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Lord God comfort us in our sufferings and enable us to comfort others in their sufferings.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:1-11 [Suffering] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 06 Oct 2020 22:48:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

To equip us to comfort others : Why we need God's comfort? It is because we live in the world full of troubles. Sufferings are real. Jesus never promise a life without difficulties in this world instead he invites us to come to him when we are tired, weary and discouraged and he will give us rest. People, happenings, money, vices (liquor, drugs) are things people could run to for help and comfort. It might help a little for a moment but only God can give us real comfort. Only God knows how to comfort us because He is the "Father of compassion and God of all comfort. "When we receive comfort from Him, we are now able to comfort people who need comfort. He said in verse 4b, " so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God."

To teach us to rely on God and his Power : When we acquire success, when we are in good times, we often forget that we need God's power and strength to help us. We only call God for help when things don't go our way and we cannot bear them with our strength anymore. Paul said in verse 9, "but this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God..." Thank God for reminding us that we always need Him and He uses our troubles to make our hearts tuned for humility and not pride. People don't usually believe something without seeing anything. Thank God he revealed His power and care for His people by the time He rescued them from troubles. We are convince that our God is able to deliver us from any kind of trouble just as how he rescued His people from the bondage of Egypt.

APPLICATIONS: God makes no mistake. His move is always perfect, always the best. Sometimes we do not know His purpose, but one thing we know for sure is that God allows sufferings to happen to you and to me because His purpose is higher and eternal but our pains are temporal. Humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you."- 1 Peter 5:6-7

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:1-11 [Suffering] Posted by john.svk on Tue, 06 Oct 2020 23:59:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) Paul understood his specific calling from our Lord and he addressed the church by that role and his bestowed authority.

2) Paul called that a blessing when they were comforted during their affliction because through

Page 74 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum that blessing, we should be able to comfort others who go through the same situation. Though Christ was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him. [Hebrews 5:8]

3) Paul and his fellow followers of Christ went through trouble even to the point of death but as written in 1 Corinthians 10:13, No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

Application: When we know who we are in Christ and how assured and confident in our calling, we won't waver when go through difficult situation. When Paul encountered Lord Jesus Christ and how Lord spoke to Ananias about Paul's ministry in Acts 9:15,16 - But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children[c] of Israel. For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake." Also, Paul himself got revelation in Acts 20:23 that Holy Spirit testifies in every city, saying that chains and tribulations await me.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 1:12-24 [Paul's Testimony & Sparing of Church] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 07 Oct 2020 01:06:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 12 For our boasting is this: the testimony of our conscience that we conducted ourselves in the world in [f]simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom but by the grace of God, and more abundantly toward you. 13 For we are not writing any other things to you than what you read or understand. Now I trust you will understand, even to the end 14 (as also you have understood us in part), that we are your boast as you also are ours, in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Sparing the Church 15 And in this confidence I intended to come to you before, that you might have a second benefit-- 16 to pass by way of you to Macedonia, to come again from Macedonia to you, and be helped by you on my way to Judea. 17 Therefore, when I was planning this, did I do it lightly? Or the things I plan, do I plan according to the flesh, that with me there should be Yes, Yes, and No, No? 18 But as God is faithful, our [g]word to you was not Yes and No. 19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us--by me, Silvanus, and Timothy--was not Yes and No, but in Him was Yes. 20 For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us. 21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God, 22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

23 Moreover I call God as witness against my soul, that to spare you I came no more to Corinth. 24 Not that we [h]have dominion over your faith, but are fellow workers for your joy; for by faith you stand.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:12-24 [Paul's Testimony & Sparing of Church]

Page 75 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 13 Oct 2020 02:57:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

The fact that Paul first made an unscheduled visit and then cancelled his second scheduled visit to Corinth gave his opponents another reason to criticize him. He had not carried out his promise. The Corinthians had misread Paul, and in this letter he had to explain his motives. Paul hoped that the Corinthian believers would help him on his way to Judea--probably by their hospitality, lodging prayers, and an escort for part of his journey, but not by their money, since he later stated his determination not to accept funds from them (2 Cor. 11:7-10).

Throughout his writings, Paul contrasted a person's worldly desires with being controlled by the Spirit. The Spirit of God living within Christians help them break free from their own selfishness. The Spirit transforms Christians from within, giving them the motivation to act according to a higher standard and not mere self-interest. The higher standard is obedience to God. Paul had come to the Corinthians with the message of the Spirit--not merely a human message. He had proven his sincere motives by refusing to take money from them. Paul wasn't acting out of self-interest. He wasn't preaching to them for his own financial benefit. Instead, Paul--empowered by the Holy Spirit--was preaching a divine message, the refreshing truth in a world of falsehoods.

APPLICATIONS

-We should Call God as Witness for everything we do. -Paul described how he, his coworkers--Timothy, and Silas--and the Corinthians themselves were all tied together. They had all received God's Spirit, an indication they all belonged to God through Christ. Unity in very important in his ministry -13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,- Ephesians 1:13

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:12-24 [Paul's Testimony & Sparing of Church] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:48:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

2 Corinthians 1:12-24 [Paul's Testimony & Sparing of Church]

12 For our boasting is this: the testimony of our conscience that we conducted ourselves in the world in [f]simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom but by the grace of God, and more abundantly toward you. 13 For we are not writing any other things to you than what you read or understand. Now I trust

Page 76 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum you will understand, even to the end 14 (as also you have understood us in part), that we are your boast as you also are ours, in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Observation:

Do not boast yourselves with fleshly wisdom, Nothing in this world should boast us. Paul kept the holy spirit as a witness to his soul means only the holy spirit should witness our faith in Lord Jesus Christ. only the holy spirit should boast us when we follow the truth, so we should follow the truth to get witnessed by the holy spirit. God gave us Holyspirit to redeem us from this world from sin and evil. Holy Spirit protects us from this world.

Paul considers himself not a master but as a worker of god standing for the same faith. without faith, we can not please our god.

Matthew 9:29 29 Then he touched their eyes and said, "According to your faith let it be done to you"; Matthew 8:13 13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that moment.

Application: we should not boast ourselves rather we should boast in faith Romans 1:12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other's faith. we should not operate on fleshly wisdom that belongs to this world rather operates on faith

Page 77 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Prayer Lord let us operate on spiritual wisdom and boast ourselves in your faith.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:12-24 [Paul's Testimony & Sparing of Church] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:54:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1) Apostle Paul testified based on his clear conscience and that he lived in simplicity and godly sincerity by the grace of Lord. God through Holy Spirit cleanse our conscience from the dead works to serve the living God [Hebrews 9:14] as it also attributed from Jeremiah 31:33 that our Lord will put His law within Israel and write them on their heart and He will be their God and they shall be His people. That means Spirit bears the witness of Paul's godly life.

2) Paul's boast is towards the people / church and he has such a godly fellowship with the body of Christ. This is like the what John talked in 3 John 1:14, I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

3) Paul's faithfulness and his decision based on God's leading is what we have seen in his life. Our God is faithful in His words and promise and He will surely do it / fulfil it as we seen in 1 Thessalonians 5:24. Therefore know that the LORD your God , He is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy for a thousand generations with those who love Him and keep His commandments (Deuteronomy 7:9)

Every good gift and every perfect gift are from our Father God and He is faithful and in Him there is no variation, neither shadow of turning. (James 1:17)

Application: We ought to live like Christ and being filled with Spirit of Lord with our conscience bear witness about the truth and the godly life. We should strive for godly fellowship and live a life of trustworthiness.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 1:12-24 [Paul's Testimony & Sparing of Church] Posted by isaac on Wed, 21 Oct 2020 00:46:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Paul talks about the testimony of his conscience in the areas integrity and godly sincerity. He values the testimony of his conscience more than the testimony of elders or other believers. In verse 13 he talks about being transparent and upfront to the believers. He always very clear about what he wants to tell the Corinth church and did not say anything sarcastically that shows he's not an hypocrite. In verse 14 and 15 he talks about people who have seen him on

Page 78 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum this earth and feeling proud hoping they would feel the same pride in the last day on the judgement day which should be our Prayer.

Application : We need to check ourself if our conscience is giving good testimony about ourself if not we need to correct the areas where God is leading us to correct. We need to be transparent and should not be sarcastic. We should live a life in such a way that whoever seeing our external actions and feeling happy and proud about ourself should feel the same way when Jesus return in the judgement day.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 2:1-11 [Forgiveness] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 21 Oct 2020 01:04:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 2 But I determined this within myself, that I would not come again to you in sorrow. 2 For if I make you sorrowful, then who is he who makes me glad but the one who is made sorrowful by me?

Forgive the Offender 3 And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is the joy of you all. 4 For out of much [a]affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you.

5 But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent--not to be too severe. 6 This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man, 7 so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow. 8 Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love to him. 9 For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things. 10 Now whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For [b]if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:1-11 [Forgiveness] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:55:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATION:

- The problem might have been the sexual offender who Paul mentioned in the beginning of his first letter. Another possibility is that an individual or a group within the Corinthian church questioned Paul's authority and his theology. -When someone hurts us, there is a temptation to respond by hurting them. Rather than strike back, Paul forgave and put others first. Paul wanted to visit the Corinthians, but he did not want to cause them pain -One of the stand-out tenets of the Christian faith is that it is not "I centered," but rather it is "other focused.

Page 79 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum -Paul was always a teacher. He used every opportunity he could to help others grow in their lives as disciples/followers of Jesus. Paul has forgiven the person or persons who injured him. Now he instructs the Corinthian church to forgive the individual as well. -Paul then tells the Corinthians that the punishment inflicted on the person was enough. Punishment was never meant to be an act of revenge. The goal of punishment was always to restore and renew the relationship. -Members of the community can forgive one another when needed and they can continue to grow in their walk with Jesus by encouraging each other. Their forgiveness has freed them for service.

APPLICATIONS: - We always need to put Others first and helping them to grow. - We need to encourage one another and forgive one another every time. - Don't give the devil any opportunity to work.- Ephesians 4:27

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:1-11 [Forgiveness] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:52:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

2 But I determined this within myself, that I would not come again to you in sorrow. 2 For if I make you sorrowful, then who is he who makes me glad but the one who is made sorrowful by me?

Observation: when we sin it brings sorrow not only to us but also to our church. So we live our life out of sin. As Christians, we are ready to forgive the sinner (not sin) and give him the opportunity to realize

Page 80 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum his mistake and repent himself. By showing the love of christ we can show that we punished him just because we hate his sin not him. So we should be ready to forgive the offender and comfort him in christ rather than punish him and put him in sorrow. Also, we should allow him to come back to church. We don't want him to be punished instead we want him to repent. But if anyone not ready to repent should be sent out of the church. When we forgive we do it for Christ when we don't it gives an advantage to satan and also we become sinners as we did not follow what christ asked us to do.

John 8:7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let anyone of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

Application:

Forgive the offender and showcase the love of christ we need to forgive one another and stand together for christ we need to maintain love and holiness inside the church means inside us

Prayer

Lord forgive our sins and give us the heart to forgive others.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:1-11 [Forgiveness] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 04 Nov 2020 01:13:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) Pauls' abundant love to Corinthians was being addressed in the earlier part of this chapter. 2 Corinthians 12:14,15 says, And I will not be burdensome to you; for I do not seek yours, but you. For the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved.

Paul treat Corinthians church as spiritual children. [For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel] Paul portrays the balance way of approaching things when dealing with church disciplinary actions towards brethren.

2) Paul wants church to forgive the offender after that person went through disciplinary action by the church. Jesus talks about forgiveness towards ones' brother in Matthew 18:21,22 Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"22 Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

Page 81 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Jesus forgave Peter even though he denied him 3 times by reaching out to him to reiterate his love for Jesus [John 21:15 - So when they had eaten breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me more than these?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Feed My lambs."]

Application: 1) We should have the meekness and gentleness of Christ when dealing with body of church. [2 Corinthians 10:1a]. Also Jesus was so compassionate towards weak and feeble as mentioned in Isaiah 42:3 A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench; He will bring forth justice for truth.

2) When we come into His presence for prayer we have to forgive our brother as Jesus said in Mark 11:25, 25 "And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. 26 [d]But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Paul even testifies about Mark who left them in one of his missionary journey. [2 Timothy 4:11 - Get Mark and bring him with you, for he is useful to me for ministry].

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:1-11 [Forgiveness] Posted by isaac on Wed, 04 Nov 2020 01:40:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Paul is talking about his state of mind when he wrote his first letter corinthians which is what we read in verse 4 "great distress and anguish of heart and with many tears". He's making his intentions clearly that he was writing with great burden which shows his true love for God. Other point he wants to make is about Forgiving someone who has caused grief to the church. As God did to prodigal son we need to forgive them that we will glorify God otherwise we will make Satan win which is what he has mentioned in verse 11

Application : We need to have balance between grace and holiness and ready to forgive and should not let Satan win his scheme

Subject: 2 Corinthians 2:12-17 [Triumph in Christ] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 04 Nov 2020 01:58:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a [c]door was opened to me by the Lord, 13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I did not find Titus my brother; but taking my leave of them, I departed for Macedonia.

Page 82 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 14 Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us [d]diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place. 15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. 16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, as [e]so many, peddling[f] the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:12-17 [Triumph in Christ] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 10 Nov 2020 23:58:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a [c]door was opened to me by the Lord, 13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I did not find Titus my brother; but taking my leave of them, I departed for Macedonia.

14 Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us [d]diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place. 15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. 16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, as [e]so many, peddling[f] the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.

Observation:

Paul talks about apostles and their ministry

Apostles have been raised by God and not by themselves, they are devoted to god in their life and they became the great servants of God in history. Apostles have the ability to save or perish the life of their followers. So Apostles have to save lives and make disciples for Christ, not for themselves. we should not preach the gospel for maternal benefits. we should not fond of worldly praise. If we do then we are false prophets.

Acts 4:33 With great power, the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God's grace was so powerfully at work in them all

God has to give his wisdom and strength to carry his ministry in this world. Do we have the fragrance of Christ in our life or not, do we have the aroma of holiness/life or aroma of sin/death within us.

Application:

Page 83 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum we believe that God who always leads us in triumph in Christ. when we are in christ also he diffuses the fragrance of his knowledge and wisdom through us. We should not be peddling the word of God, we should serve the Lord with sincerity.

Prayer

Lord, we want to be the fragrance of Christ by spreading his gospel and characteristics to others.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:12-17 [Triumph in Christ] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 11 Nov 2020 00:46:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS: He came with the intent of preaching the Gospel, and God was faithful to open a door for him to share the good news of Jesus Christ. Paul rejoiced for the fruitful ministry at Troas and the provision of God in providing opportunities to preach.If we will determine in our hearts to serve the Lord and share our faith with others, God will be faithful to provide opportunities to do.

God's Favor -Paul had dealt with adversity, and yet he was not discouraged. He praised God for His favor, knowing he was always triumphant in Christ.Regardless of what we face in life or ministry, we can always be optimistic in Christ. We are victorious through Him, even in the face of difficulty!

God' Faithfulness : Paul's plans may have changed, but the Lord remained faithful unto him. God provided opportunities for Paul to share the Gospel, and the good news of Jesus Christ was going forth unto those who had yet to hear.We need to be reminded of God's faithfulness to His Word and His commitment to the lost and perishing.

Our Fragrance : Paul remained optimistic because he knew the sweet fragrance faithful service emitted. His commitment to the Lord provided a sweet fragrance to the Lord and to those with whom he came in contact. His life made an impact on others.

APPLICATIONS: - Always Christ centered preaching - God is faithful even we are going through difficult times - God's favor will bring opportunities in our life - These days are not for the faint of heart, but we can make a difference for Christ.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 2:12-17 [Triumph in Christ] Posted by isaac on Wed, 11 Nov 2020 00:54:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 84 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Observation : We see in v12,13 about Paul's eagerness for fellowship with fellow brothers even though got had an open door in Troas. In v14 Paul is very clear about our life here on earth that it should victorious no matter what the situation is. In old testament we read about the incense which people used to bring to the tabernacle in new covenant we ourself are the incense which brings the aroma. He talks being incense to God first then to those who are saved leading to life and then to those who are perishing leading them to death. Finally Paul talks about many who are using the word of God for making profit by making it pleasing to men but on the contrast we should preach the word of in sincerity as are speaking in the sight of God

Subject: 2 Corinthians 3 :1-6 (Christ Epistle and The Spirit) Posted by john.svk on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:16:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 3 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or do we need, as some others, epistles of commendation to you or letters of commendation from you? 2 You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

The Spirit, Not the Letter 4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, 6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the [a]Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 3 :1-6 (Christ Epistle and The Spirit) Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 01 Dec 2020 22:05:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 2 Corinthians 3 :1-6 (Christ Epistle and The Spirit) 3 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or do we need, as some others, epistles of commendation to you or letters of commendation from you? 2 You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

Page 85 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum OBSERVATION Paul is urging follow christ rather following commands

Deuteronomy 6:6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts.

God wants isralites to keep these commandments in their life. But really their hearts are away from god and they were sinning. Thats why Jesus wants us to keep his love in our hearts rather following commandments which will get us into eternal heaven.

APPLICATION

The commandment kills , but the Spirit gives life. We trust god through christ. God is our supreme command.

Prayer

We trust you lord. You are sufficient for us.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 3 :1-6 (Christ Epistle and The Spirit) Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 02 Dec 2020 00:30:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

We see Paul go through this back and forth with the Corinthians correcting some of their behavior.

• When these false apostles showed up to Corinth they had brought along with them letters of recommendation. These letters of recommendation were used by early Christians to introduce themselves when they would enter a new town. We still use recommendations on resumes today as a means to get to know the person and their work that much more. Paul, however did not feel the need to use these letters of recommendation. He tells the Corinthians that you are our living letters! What Paul is saying is that the Corinthians are the fruit of His ministry - His proof of being used as an Apostle by Jesus Christ.

• Why bring a letter when the proof is standing before you, living and breathing right before your very eyes!Did Paul change the Corinthians? Did Paul save them and transform them? No!. However he was obedient to serve Jesus Christ and Christ did a mighty work through Paul. Paul was saying that you could look at the Corinthians and read or see transformation through Jesus Christ. We are saved through faith in Jesus Christ alone. We see this in our world today as well - people want to add to the requirements for salvation.

• The Law has its place - it condemns sinners and this condemnation leads to spiritual death

Page 86 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum unless we put our faith in Jesus Christ.

Application: - We are letters that should read of this hope! -Jesus Christ's Grace is sufficient enough for salvation - we do not need to be like the Judaizers and add anything else as a condition for salvation.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 3:4-18 [New Covenant] Posted by john.svk on Mon, 11 Jan 2021 16:05:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, 6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the [a]Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Glory of the New Covenant 7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech-- 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as [b]by the Spirit of the Lord.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 3:4-18 [New Covenant] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 12 Jan 2021 22:08:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

The Sufficiency of the New Covenant (v.4-6)

The "O.C." (Old Covenant) was incomplete and inadequate to save. The New Covenant of grace could only provide that. Of this Paul was confident (v.4). He didn't depend on his own works. He had tried that and found it totally inadequate. Don't believe it? Then answer the question, "When was Paul's heart change?" Was it not when he met Christ enroute to Damascus? Paul's

Page 87 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum competence came from Christ and he gave Him the credit for it (v.5-6).

The Superiority of the New Covenant (v.6-11)

Was Paul suggesting that the O.T. law was unimportant? Of course not. The law had a purpose. It was like a schoolmaster. It shows how hopeless and lost we are without God's grace. The law is "perfect". The problem is we're not. We are sinful (sin nature). We have broken the law and incapable of keeping the law. The law slays us. Grace saves us. It is through the God of grace we are pardoned and clothed in His righteousness.

The Schooling of the New Covenant (v.12-18)

What does it teach us? It teaches us about confidence (12-14), conversion (15-16) and Christ likeness (17-18). We are saved, not when we turn to Moses and the law, but when we turn to Christ and His grace. At that moment He grants salvation and begins the work of transformation and it's all for God's glorification. It's an "inside" job. Only the spirit can do this! The law can point us to Christ, but only grace can make us like Christ.

APPLICATIONS:

- We need to transform ourselves to glory God - We should be courage and bold to preach the gospel and show Christ Christ through us.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 3:4-18 [New Covenant] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 13 Jan 2021 01:08:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1) Paul talked about how new covenant through the Spirit of God has replaced the law of God that were written in stone tablets. There is no condemnation for the ones who are in Christ and walk according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ, has made us free from the law of sin and death since Christ who came in the likeness of sinful flesh, fulfilled the law by condemning sin in His flesh. [Romans 8:1-3]

2) Lord made the first covenant [Law] obsolete and faulty when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born[a] of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!" 7 Therefore you are no longer a slave but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. [Galatians 4:4-7] For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. [Hebrews 8:10]

3) Glory from the Law of God is inferior to the glory that we see in New covenant because of the fulfilment of the law through Lord Jesus Christ. [Matthew 5:17]

Page 88 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 4) As mentioned in John 4:23, But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Application: 1) For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. In Christ you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ [Colossians 2:11]

2) Consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus, 2 who was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was faithful in all His house. 3 For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. 4 For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God. 5 And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, 6 but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end. [Hebrews 3:1-3]

3) I John 2:27 - But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 3:4-18 [New Covenant] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 13 Jan 2021 01:12:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, 6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the [a]Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Page 89 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as [b]by the Spirit of the Lord.

Observation:

We have our trust in God through Christ, our sufficiency is from god through christ. In NT Christ made us his ministers of his work through his spirit.

Israelites could not look into Moses because of God's glory on him. then how more glorious if you have God's spirit inside yourself? when doing ministry. ministry of righteousness is glorious than the ministry of condemnation. OT ministry was passing by but NT ministry will remain and lead us to the eternal so in OT they have veils becasue they could not see gods glory. But in NT we are holding his spirit and stand on his glory. In OT they have veils over their head and also over their heart because of laws. Christ unlifted that veil from us. the veil is taken away in Christ to enter into gods glory as his children. When turns in to christ, when you repent to god , the veil is taken away in christ. There is a redeemtion in holy sprit.

Application:

Trust in god, we are workers of god to build his kingdom. Jesus called us to be his ministers of god. where the sprit of the Lord is, there is liberty. In christ we have victory over sin.

Prayer

Lord god help us to unveil our face/heart and hold the glory of the Lord, and being transformed into the same image of god/christ from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 4 [ Gospel and its work] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 13 Jan 2021 04:33:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor [a]handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's

Page 90 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum conscience in the sight of God. 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus' sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Cast Down but Unconquered 7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. 8 We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed-- 10 always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. 11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death is working in us, but life in you.

13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, "I believed and therefore I spoke," we also believe and therefore speak, 14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you. 15 For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God.

Seeing the Invisible 16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 4 [ Gospel and its work] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:46:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS: - Paul writing to the Corinthian church speaks of the great and awesome privilege of having been given the ministry of carrying the Gospel to the lost. This ministry of bringing light to darkness was and is a work of God's Power through His Spirit. His focus was to present a clear message of truth shining all light on the Light of the World Jesus Christ. However, regardless of how bright the light of the Gospel is there are those who are blind to the truth. To them the gospel is hidden. How does such brilliant light become so veiled or hidden that men see not the Light?.

- Note that Satan blinds the mind of men; not the eyes of their bodies, but of their understandings. As a result, they may hear the gospel and see its power and still not see or hear. Note that Satan blinds the mind of men; not the eyes of their bodies, but of their understandings. As a result, they may hear the gospel and see its power and still not see or hear. Matthew 13:13b "...seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand

Focus on the Invisible Hope : -Paul reminds us that although struggles come, do not give up hope.

Page 91 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Our bodies are subject to sin and suffering, God never abandons us. Though our bodies are perishable containers, focus on the priceless contents (Jesus in our hearts).Trials are opportunities to demonstrate Jesus' power and presence. Our responsibility is to let people sin Christ through our lives. Romans 5:3-4 but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; and patience, experience; and experience, hope. I. Our Spiritual Strength (16) For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. In order to properly prepare, we must understand the strength we have in Christ.

APPLICATION : How we approach daily life and ministry for Christ will be affected by our perspective. ? We need to focus on eternal life and invisible things which is God prepared for us and move on towards the path Jesus will strengthen us whenever we go through difficult situation and he will provide provide strength to overcome.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 4 [ Gospel and its work] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 20 Jan 2021 00:04:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

2 Corinthians 4

Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor [a]handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus' sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Page 92 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, "I believed and therefore I spoke," we also believe and therefore speak, 14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you. 15 For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God.

Observation: we need gods mercy to do his work. Only then we can walk on his way and away from worldly deceitful way. If you believe in god then veil is taken out from your heart and you can see the light/knowledge/glory of the god through jesus christ.

We are pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; This is our hope on christ. so we do not lose heart, lose your hope , even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day, which is more exceeding and more glorious. so do not look at the things which are seen in this world, but start look at the things which are in not seen, the eternity.

Application: we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, we are bondservants for Jesus we are ready to do gods work for christ jesus sake

Prayer

Lord god help us not to look at temporary things of this world but to see you and the eternal things after you.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 4 [ Gospel and its work] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 20 Jan 2021 01:12:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

Page 93 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Paul acknowledges that because of the mercy of LORD and then the truth entrusted in them they preached the gospel by presenting Word of God. Some people walk in the darkness even though Paul preach the glory of Lord who is Christ himself. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. [John 3:19]

In 1 Thessalonians 1:5 Paul says, for our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake. Since they operate in the power of Holy Spirit, irrespective of their situation like persecution and forsakenness life of Christ was being manifested in their life. Through Faith and Love for the people by the grace of LORD they presented themselves as a testimony before them.

Though they were going through lot of bodily struggles, they knew that their inner man grows day by day through the power of God. By faith on eternal glory they are ready to endure the suffering for the glorification. Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. [Hebrews 12:2]

Application: 1) We need to know Christ and through the knowledge of Word of God and by the power of Holy Spirit only we can present Gospel clearly.

2) Faith and the understanding of the heavenly glory that are waiting for us will help us to go through the light affliction and suffering of this world because of gospel and Christ.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 4 [ Gospel and its work] Posted by isaac on Wed, 20 Jan 2021 01:24:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Paul clearly states that he has got rid of the hidden things of shame which many believers could be. They would be still living in hidden sins which could cause shame to them if revealed but Paul is saying he has got rid of those things. In addition he mentions about not walking in craftiness and not handling the word of God deceitfully but nowadays we see these things more common so we need to be careful about this. Paul talk about veil where Gospel is veiled to those who are perishing so we should thank God for we have been revealed the Gospel. Also Paul talk not preaching ourself but Jesus Christ alone. From verse 7 to 9 he talks about the persecutions he went through due to preaching the gospel but still willing to spread the Gospel which is a great example. Another key verse is verse 16 which talks about even though our outward man is perishing yet the inward man is being renewed day by day.

Application : We need to get rid of any hidden shameful things if we might have and also we should not walk in craftiness but walk with openness especially handling the word of God carefully. If we go through

Page 94 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum hardships due to Gospel we should remember this is momentary trouble but we have a greater life waiting for us in heaven for which our inner man should get transformed day by day

Subject: 2 Corinthians 5 [Resurrection] Posted by john.svk on Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:41:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message For we know that if our earthly [a]house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our [b]habitation which is from heaven, 3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 4 For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as [c]a guarantee.

6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.

The Judgment Seat of Christ 9 Therefore we make it our aim, whether present or absent, to be well pleasing to Him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.

Be Reconciled to God 12 For we do not commend ourselves again to you, but give you opportunity to boast on our behalf, that you may have an answer for those who boast in appearance and not in heart. 13 For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God; or if we are of sound mind, it is for you. 14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died; 15 and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again.

16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. 18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not [d]imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Page 95 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 5 [Resurrection] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:34:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS: - In his second letter to his friends in the city of Corinth, Paul described these physical bodies that we live in as "earthly tents" ... something that Paul would know a lot about. One of the ways that Paul supported himself and his ministry was by making and repairing tents. - The first thing we need to realize is that, as Christians, oftentimes the longer we live here the more difficult our existence seems to be, & the less attractive this world really is to us. -This life is uncertain, & it can be destroyed in a second. No matter how much we have, or how much we try to protect ourselves, we're still living in an insecure tent. -But remember also what Paul says in vs. 10, "We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad." - verse 14 in that we die and now are under love -verse 15 in that we live for God not ourselves -verse 16 in that we are alive spiritually - verse 17 in that we are a new creation in Christ. -Christians are "in Christ" which means we are new people and have a new position with God because of Jesus Christ. - we are ambassadors for Christ - God sent Jesus Christ as the way of reconciliation... a way of peace. He had a message of reconciliation and He is also the way of reconciliation. He had a message of peace with God and was at the same time the peacemaker. - Reconciliation means forgiveness takes place between God and us and Jesus pays the price for it.

APPLICATION: - "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Matthew 5:9 - We need to understand that we are ambassadors for Christ - This life is temporary and our focus should be eternal house. - We all need to stand in front of judgement seat. We should be fearful for every action we do.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 5 [Resurrection] Posted by isaac on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:56:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message As it says in v3 "if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked" so if are clothed with our heavenly habitation then we will not mind the troubles and issues in this life since we will eagerly looking forward to the heavenly life. Also we are very confident though we are in this mortal body since we walk by faith and not sight. So whether we are present in earthly body or heavenly the key is to be living a pleasing life to God. If we are in Christ old things have passed away and all things have become new. As ambassadors of Christ we need to urge everyone to reconcile with God

Application :

Page 96 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum We should remember our kingdom is in heaven and this life in this mortal body is temporary so we should always live a life pleasing to God so that we will be able to face God with confidence in the last day. If we still have some old things in our mind and body that means we need to get closer to God. Finally we need to realize we are ambassadors of Christ and urge everyone to reconcile with God

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 5 [Resurrection] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:04:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

2 Corinthians 5 [Resurrection] [message #937]

For we know that if our earthly [a]house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our [b]habitation which is from heaven, 3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 4 For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as [c]a guarantee.

Page 97 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Observation:

Eternal heaven is our permanent house so we are from heaven from god. world is our tent prepared by god for us and our life is guarantee through gods spirit. So in this world we are confident that while our body is far from god but our sprit is close his spirit. so we need be to ready to stand before the judgment seat of Christ in our conscience. so we do not boast in heart rather boast ourselves in god as he died for us and rose again. we are not of flesh but of God, he who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ As like Paul we are ambassadors for Christ, and God was pleading through us, and we implore this world on Christ's behalf,

Application: walk by faith, not by sight if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation - born again we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ

Prayer

Lord help us to walk by faith , born again day by in your sprit to keep our life as holy as you shown us, to prepare us to appear before you on the judgement day.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 5 [Resurrection] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:12:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Our hope is that once we die, we will be with the Lord in the glorified body like our Christ's. As mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:12-19 says, If Christ is not risen with the glorified body, then our faith is futile, and we are all men most pitiable who are preaching about resurrection and the hope in risen savior. So, we walk by faith by trusting risen Christ.

But while we live here on earth, we want to be united with our LORD just like what Paul described in Philippians 1:23, 22. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better.

Son of Man will come in glory of His Father with His angels, and He will reward each one according to His works [Matthew 16:27]. Our Lord will render to each one according to his deeds": 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and

Page 98 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath [Romans 2:6-8]

Paul is stating that his ministry is like the ministry of reconciliation what Jesus did when he was on the earth. In Colossians 1:19-20, For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. They did it through the "Love of Christ" as it compels them to live a life on Christ's behalf to have Corinthians reconciled to God.

Application: We should consider the present suffering in our mortal body are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body [Romans 8:18-23]

Since Christ became Sin for us, we got the Christ's Righteousness through the faith. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ and His Righteousness [Galatians 3:26-27]

Subject: 2 Corinthians 6:1-10 [Marks of Ministry] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:47:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 6 We then, as workers together with Him also plead with you not to receive the grace of God in vain. 2 For He says:

"In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you."

Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

3 We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed. 4 But in all things we commend ourselves as ministers of God: in much [a]patience, in tribulations, in needs, in distresses, 5 in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in sleeplessness, in fastings; 6 by purity, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Spirit, by [b]sincere love, 7 by the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armor of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, 8 by honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers, and yet true; 9 as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; 10 as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:1-10 [Marks of Ministry] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 02 Feb 2021 21:11:11 GMT

Page 99 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 6 We then, as workers together with Him also plead with you not to receive the grace of God in vain. 2 For He says:

"In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you."

Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

OBSERVATION

Gods grace do not go in vain. Jesus gave his life for us. This truth has to be reached everyone in this world. God is hearing our prayer and he give us his salvation. in midst of all our troubles we need to rejoice in love of christ.

What is salvation - surrender and submissive 2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior-- from violent people you save me.

APPLICATION

Jesus is our only saviuor and helper Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved." whatever happens we have to do his ministry with out blemish.

Prayer

Lord god thank for you salvation, help us to keep your salvation as a shield for our life.

Page 100 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:1-10 [Marks of Ministry] Posted by mohandoss on Wed, 03 Feb 2021 00:06:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS: One of the greatest areas of stewardship that is overlooked by most Christians is the stewardship of your time. Many of us try to be good stewards of our money and resources, but we forget some very important things. I think God will hold us accountable for many things that we take very lightly.

Note in this passage that Paul, once again, speaks of his problems. He had already spoken of them in earlier chapter. Paul suffered physical, mental, spiritual and emotional abuse. He endured because of his love for Christ and the Corinthians. His service had brought plenty of scars. Look at three things here.

Paul's aim: Paul's aim was to be a good role model. He wanted to be a good example. Note the words "stumbling block". Another meaning is "offense" which indicates striking one's foot and causing him to stumble. Paul didn't want anyone to stumble over him.

Paul's Pain : Underline some words Paul records. "Troubles" = pressures, afflictions, burdens. "Hardships" = necessities. "Distress" = calamities. "Beatings" = stripes".Imprisonments", "Riots" = mobbings. "Hard work" = working to the point of exhaustion. We can picture of Paul's Pain.

Paul's Gain : God was not breaking but making Paul. Although his aim brought him pain, in the end it brought him gain. Out of his endurance grew purity, patience and power.

APPLICATIONS:

- We need to respond asap when God asked us to do anything in our life. -we need to aim as a good role model. - There are pains and persecution while we are doing God's work -But we need to overcome each one of them and come closer to God.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:1-10 [Marks of Ministry] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 03 Feb 2021 01:42:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: In continuation from previous chapter, 2 Corinthians 5:21, For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. So we should know that we have not received the grace of Lord in vain. We should value the grace of LORD.

Hebrews 6:4-6 says, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted

Page 101 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

"Today is the day of Salvation" reveals that we don't have any other opportunity and there should not be any delay in making the choice for eternal life.

Paul talks about marks of ministry in New covenant life. None of the listings mentioned (distress, through tribulations and all the way through possessing nothing) are related to earthly blessing but suffering and to some one's reprieve / concession so that won't be overwhelmed and hence he listed some honors in later part of ministry life.

Application:

We should make use of any immediate opportunity that comes to us either if it related to calling (or) heavenly riches. In Old testament how Elisha left everything and came back to Elijah and became the man of God with double anointing. This also applied to the situation that Apostles went through how they made the decision on that day when the calling came from Jesus. Grace helps us to go through the situation and complete our heavenly race during our life on earth. When messenger of Satan buffets Paul because of the abundance of revelations so he should not get pride, only through grace he was able to get through. He also knows that when Paul is weak, God will exalt himself as strong through him. Hence Paul take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Thus, Christians in first century embraced persecution.

Also, believers can experience both honor and dishonor, good report, and bad report, well known and unknown, having nothing, and yet possessing all things. We will also encounter this in our life, so we won't get overwhelmed.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 6:11-18 [ Be Holy] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 03 Feb 2021 17:44:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 11 O Corinthians! [c]We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open. 12 You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections. 13 Now in return for the same (I speak as to children), you also be open.

14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what [d]fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what [e]communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you[f] are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

"I will dwell in them And walk among them.

Page 102 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum I will be their God, And they shall be My people."

17 Therefore

"Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you." 18 "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty."

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:11-18 [ Be Holy] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:31:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 2 Corinthians 6:11-18 [ Be Holy] 11 O Corinthians! [c]We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open. 12 You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections. 13 Now in return for the same (I speak as to children), you also be open.

"I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people."

17 Therefore

OBSERVATION keep your hearts wide open to the god not to the world Do not restrict yourself towards god, restrict/limit yourself from worldly things.

Page 103 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Ministers and church has to be open hearted. There are differneces between believer vs non believer, righteousness vs lawlessness, light/dark, Christ/Belial, temple of god/idols You are the temple of the living God

Romans 8:39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. if we separate us from this world then no one can separate us from god.

APPLICATION worldly affections will restrict/limit us from god, we are son and daughters of god. we are the temple of the living God for gospel sake we can fellowship with unbelievers, not worldly, you have to face challenges

Prayer

Lord Almighty separate us from this world and keep us to be clean

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:11-18 [ Be Holy] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 16 Feb 2021 21:54:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

- It is also hard to determine where to draw lines from time to time, but lines must be drawn. These verses are applied to various sorts of alliances (e.g., mixed marriages, improper business associations) -"Sanctification is also used in NT of the separation of the believer from evil things and ways. This sanctification is God's will for the believer, and His purpose in calling him by the gospel; it must be learned from God, as He teaches it by His Word, and it must be pursued by the believer, earnestly and undeviatingly. -This is a condemnation of all intimate relationships with non-believers. We are not to be bound by marriage, business partnerships, or close friendships. The negative impact will always bring the higher down to the lower. -This does not mean we avoid them at all cost, we have to love them and care for them and let the light of Christ shine abroad in our hearts. To help to lead them to Jesus. -In times past God dwelt in tabernacles and temples built by the hands of men but now God dwells in the hearts of men. The saved are His temple now:

APPLICATIONS:

-Come out: to start the processes we must be willing to leave the old life behind and be separate.

Page 104 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum -Leave those former things behind, those things that will make us unclean. There were many laws given on this in the Old Testament (unclean animals, dead bodies, women during their "time of the month", etc.) but we are given new guidelines in the New Testament. --This covers every wicked thought we have. We need to remember we will be judged on every wicked though and idle word spoken. - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.- 1 Thess 5:23-24

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:11-18 [ Be Holy] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:20:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

Holiness means "set apart" for the LORD. 1 Peter 2:9 says, But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises [excellence] of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; Also in Isaiah 43:7 talks about similar things in Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him." Also, Lord is Holy [1 Peter 1:16] and without holiness no one will see LORD.

We are the temple of God and we host the Spirit of Living God. Love of has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us. [Romans 5:5] God sent the Spirit of His son into out hearts crying out "Abba, Father" to have the relationship with our Father God. [Galatians 4:6]

Application:

Those who are in flesh cannot please God. Hence, we should walk in Spirit who dwells in us and that will make us Holy.

Anything / Anyone that we call idol do not give glory to the LORD. As stated in 1 Samuel 15:23, And insubordination is as reprehensible as false religion and idolatry. Obedience to our Lord will give glory to the LORD. while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, [2 Corinthians 9:13]

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 6:11-18 [ Be Holy] Posted by isaac on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:42:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : In this passage Paul talks about living a life dedicated to God and mixing with unbelievers and unlawful people. We should remember we not from the world but not of the world. In the beginning God was the one who separated light from darkness so we need to remember if we are of the light we cannot be mixed with darkness.

Page 105 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Application : We should remember we have a special calling once we become the believers of Jesus so we need to reflect Jesus. Though Jesus interacted with unbelievers yet he did not mix with them so we should be careful of our act and ask God for guidance in each of our acts.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 7:1-16 [The Corinthians' Repentance] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 02:14:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

The Corinthians' Repentance 2 Open your hearts to us. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have cheated no one. 3 I do not say this to condemn; for I have said before that you are in our hearts, to die together and to live together. 4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my boasting on your behalf. I am filled with comfort. I am exceedingly joyful in all our tribulation.

5 For indeed, when we came to Macedonia, our bodies had no rest, but we were troubled on every side. Outside were conflicts, inside were fears. 6 Nevertheless God, who comforts the downcast, comforted us by the coming of Titus, 7 and not only by his coming, but also by the [a]consolation with which he was comforted in you, when he told us of your earnest desire, your mourning, your zeal for me, so that I rejoiced even more.

8 For even if I made you sorry with my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it. For I perceive that the same epistle made you sorry, though only for a while. 9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. 11 For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter. 12 Therefore, although I wrote to you, I did not do it for the sake of him who had done the wrong, nor for the sake of him who suffered wrong, but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear to you.

The Joy of Titus 13 Therefore we have been comforted in your comfort. And we rejoiced exceedingly more for the joy of Titus, because his spirit has been refreshed by you all. 14 For if in anything I have boasted to him about you, I am not ashamed. But as we spoke all things to you in truth, even so our boasting to Titus was found true. 15 And his affections are greater for you as he remembers the obedience of you all, how with fear and trembling you received him. 16 Therefore I rejoice that I have confidence in you in everything.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 7:1-16 [The Corinthians' Repentance]

Page 106 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 23 Feb 2021 23:50:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

I. God's People Get Right with One Another (v.2-5) :The church at Corinth had broken Paul's heart. They had criticized his ministry, doubted his word and rejected his apostleship. He was hurt and wished to be reconciled to them. Take note that it was Paul who was wronged, yet he's the one who initiated the process. At the heart of every true revival is a burdened and crushed individual. He pleaded with them to open their hearts and receive him.

II. People Care Enough to Confront (8)

Paul had confronted this church with a painful letter. "Many a church has gone down to defeat and shame because nobody was brave enough to stand up and call God' people to do what was right." (Bob Marcaurelle) Oftentimes confrontation is unwise but there are times when confrontation is a must.

III. There is Godly Sorrow that Leads to Repentance (v.6-11)

Through Paul's painful letter the church had been lead to sorrow. This sorrow had lead to transformation. Paul had heard this good news and he rejoiced. In v.11 you see the results of this sorrow.

IV. People Get Serious about Obedience (v.12-16):

APPLICATIONS:

- Perfecting holiness in the fear of Lord - confrontation is a must - Sorry in a Godly manner - Care in the sight of God

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 7:1-16 [The Corinthians' Repentance] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 24 Feb 2021 00:50:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

2 Corinthians 7:1-16 [The Corinthians' Repentance] [message #1058]

Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

The Corinthians' Repentance

Page 107 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 2 Open your hearts to us. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have cheated no one. 3 I do not say this to condemn; for I have said before that you are in our hearts, to die together and to live together. 4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my boasting on your behalf. I am filled with comfort. I am exceedingly joyful in all our tribulation.

Observation:

Paul is taking about repentance and he never regret for that. Cleanse ourselves and practice righteousness in Christ we are open hearted love others as brothers to die together and to live together boast ourselves in fellow brethren, so that we are filled with comfort, we are joyful in midst of our tribulation Though outside were conflicts, inside were fears God, who comforts us so that we can rejoice even more. godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.

Application: cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit perfecting holiness in the fear of God fellow brothers have been comforted in our comfort

Page 108 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Prayer:

Lord we want to rejoice in you

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 7:1-16 [The Corinthians' Repentance] Posted by isaac on Wed, 24 Feb 2021 01:30:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Paul insists about perfecting holiness so we need to continuously purify ourselves by the blood of Jesus Christ. Paul goes on to talk about the grief he had due to the previous letter but he mentions that he regretted only for a moment later he was happy because that sorrow led them to repentance. God intend us to go through the sorrow as long as it leads to repentance and our spiritual growth. Paul again boasting other believers to Titus which was a sigh of a Godly man.

Application : Let who is holy become more holy so we need to keep guard of ourself and with the help of the Holy Spirit we should continuosly cleanse ourself and press on for perfection. When we go through sorrows we need to think about if that sorrow is leading us to repentance and spiritual growth if so we should be happy as its worth go through that. Finally what we talk about some of the believers in front of other believers what Paul did is contradicting to the church today where most of the people gossip about other believers and being judgmental

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 7:1-16 [The Corinthians' Repentance] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 24 Feb 2021 02:57:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Even though we have God's promises [We are the temple of God], we ought to do our part of cleansing ourselves from filthiness of the flesh and spirit.

When Paul was talking about the qualification of elders of church both in 1 Timothy and Titus, he talked about how they ought to be in 1 Timothy 3:2-12 [Man of good testimony, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous] Similarly he also challenged the Corinthians to find any fault and also how his love towards them.

Holy Spirit will convict the world of Sin and of Righteousness and of Judgement [John 16:7] and the same Holy Spirit will comfort you who is our helper [John 14:16]. As a Spiritual Father, Paul confronts the sin among the believers so they can leave the fleshly desires and live a Holy life.

Paul was joyful in the repentance of his spiritual children after his rebuke. The transformation life of his spiritual children brought joy as John the Apostle talked about this in 2 John 4 - I rejoiced

Page 109 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum greatly that I have found some of your children walking in truth, as we received commandment from the Father.

Application:

1) We should have the fear of Lord no matter whether we address God our Father (or) elder brother. Apostles revered JESUS as LORD after His resurrection and even in last / latest letters and epistles of Paul, Peter, James and JUDE talks about LORD Jesus Christ and God the Father. Hebrews 5:7 - who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,

2) Paul as a spiritual father chasten his children in Christ and we have seen in Hebrews 12:6-7, For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives." 7. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

3) Paul rejoiced to hear that the Corinthians are repentant through godly sorrow and how they refreshed and took care of his representative Titus under their care. Similarly Jesus also rejoiced, as stated in Luke 10:20,21 - Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven." In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 8:1-24 [Giving] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 24 Feb 2021 02:59:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Excel in Giving 8 Moreover, brethren, we make known to you the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia: 2 that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded in the riches of their liberality. 3 For I bear witness that according to their ability, yes, and beyond their ability, they were freely willing, 4 imploring us with much urgency [a]that we would receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 5 And not only as we had hoped, but they first gave themselves to the Lord, and then to us by the will of God. 6 So we urged Titus, that as he had begun, so he would also complete this grace in you as well. 7 But as you abound in everything--in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all diligence, and in your love for us--see that you abound in this grace also.

Christ Our Pattern 8 I speak not by commandment, but I am testing the sincerity of your love by the diligence of others. 9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.

10 And in this I give advice: It is to your advantage not only to be doing what you began and were desiring to do a year ago; 11 but now you also must complete the doing of it; that as there was a

Page 110 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum readiness to desire it, so there also may be a completion out of what you have. 12 For if there is first a willing mind, it is accepted according to what one has, and not according to what he does not have.

13 For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened; 14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your lack--that there may be equality. 15 As it is written, "He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack."

Collection for the Judean Saints 16 But thanks be to God who [b]puts the same earnest care for you into the heart of Titus. 17 For he not only accepted the exhortation, but being more diligent, he went to you of his own accord. 18 And we have sent with him the brother whose praise is in the gospel throughout all the churches, 19 and not only that, but who was also chosen by the churches to travel with us with this gift, which is administered by us to the glory of the Lord Himself and to show your ready mind, 20 avoiding this: that anyone should blame us in this lavish gift which is administered by us-- 21 providing honorable things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.

22 And we have sent with them our brother whom we have often proved diligent in many things, but now much more diligent, because of the great confidence which we have in you. 23 If anyone inquires about Titus, he is my partner and fellow worker concerning you. Or if our brethren are inquired about, they are messengers[c] of the churches, the glory of Christ. 24 Therefore show to them, [d]and before the churches, the proof of your love and of our boasting on your behalf.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 8:1-24 [Giving] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 09 Mar 2021 21:25:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

Give with Rich Generosity:

The churches of Macedonia refers to the churches in cities of Philippi, Thessalonica, and Berea. They were in extreme poverty but their joy was overflowing because of their rich generosity in giving to God and poor.Now the faith community in Jerusalem became poor because of war, famine, and persecution. Macedonia and Achaia never recovered from the wars as well.Generosity and plenty stand against each other. Those who have plenty are the one close their hands to the Church and to the Poor. The poor, who has fewer resources are the one give generously. The giving is sowing the seed. Seeds are always less the harvest is plenty. The plenty is a result of the sown seeds. Giving to God in the form of Tithe, in the form of donations are investments. The dividend will be high the returns will be plenty.

Giving to the Poor: Act of perfection (Mathew 19:21), giving to Poor lacks nothing (Proverbs 28:27).

GIVE BEYOND YOUR CAPACITY : God commanded us to honour Him with our Tithe and free will offerings. We cannot rob God to

Page 111 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum pay Caesar or the other way around. Acts 11:29 reads 'disciples according to their ability they gave to the need of the brothers'. God was very particular about offering when He spoke to Moses saying, "Tell the Israelite to bring me an offering. You are to receive the offering for me from each man..." (Exodus 25:2).

GIVE BY GRACE: Excel in everything in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness, in your love. Sincerity and earnestness. Christ Rich became poor and the poor became rich.Giving to God is honouring God. Paul says, "they first gave themselves to the Lord." Order of giving was first given themselves, then their things. This is the key to a giving heart.

APPLICATIONS

- We should have cheerful heart to give others - We have to release from our hand before God release from his portion - Who is ur neighbor?

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 8:1-24 [Giving] Posted by cpchellaa on Wed, 10 Mar 2021 00:31:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE

Excel in Giving 8 Moreover, brethren, we make known to you the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia: 2 that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded in the riches of their liberality. 3 For I bear witness that according to their ability, yes, and beyond their ability, they were freely willing, 4 imploring us with much urgency [a]that we would receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 5 And not only as we had hoped, but they first gave themselves to the Lord, and then to us by the will of God. 6 So we urged Titus, that as he had begun, so he would also complete this grace in you as well. 7 But as you abound in everything--in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all diligence, and in your love for us--see that you abound in this grace also.

10 And in this I give advice: It is to your advantage not only to be doing what you began and were desiring to do a year ago; 11 but now you also must complete the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to desire it, so there also may be a completion out of what you have. 12 For if there is first a willing mind, it is accepted according to what one has, and not according to what he does not have.

13 For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened; 14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your

Page 112 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum lack--that there may be equality. 15 As it is written, "He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack."

OBSERVATION churches of Macedonia are excel in giving by the grace of god. In midst of affliction and poverty, they are rich in giving in abundance of their joy. They gave according to their ability, beyond their ability and they were freely willing to give.

They urged us to receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints They first gave themselves to the Lord, and then to us by the will of God. it is written, "He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack. as you abound in everything--in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all diligence, and in your love for us--see that you abound in this grace also - excel in giving to god. paul is saying this not by commandment, but with love

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor if there is first a willing mind, it is accepted according to what one has, and not according to what he does not have. your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your lack. He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.

Romans 12:6-8 6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your[a] faith; 7 if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; 8 if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead,[b] do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

APPLICATION We have to be excel in giving as like christ We not only righteous infront of god but also before of men, no one should blame us on administering the wealth.

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Lord make us as an excellent giver for your glory

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 8:1-24 [Giving] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 10 Mar 2021 01:41:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

Grace through Giving: Macedonia church experienced the rich grace of God, through their giving even though they go through much afflictions and deep poverty. As mentioned in 1 Kings 17:8-16, How a poor widow got blessed by Elijah even though she had only handful of flour and oil but she gave bread to first Elijah. LORD blessed her through prophet Elijah and she and her household never lacked flour (or) oil throughout famine.

Through Love for Giving: Church in Macedonia gives because of their love of God first and then to the love for people. They fulfilled the 2 commandments that Jesus spoke in Luke 10:27, Love the Lord your God and your neighbor as yourself. People give beyond their ability when they give from their heart. When the poor widow gave all that she have Jesus talked in Mark 12:43 - "So He called His disciples to Himself and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all those who have given to the treasury; 44 for they all put in out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all that she had, her whole livelihood."

Giving because of the receipt of Spiritual blessing: As the gentile church partake the spiritual blessings, they want to bless the people by giving. This was recorded in Romans 15:26,27 as "26 For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem. 27 It pleased them indeed, and they are their debtors. For if the Gentiles have been partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister to them in material things". Paul spoke in 1 Corinthians 9:11, If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

Giving because Christ gave: It is more blessed to give than to receive by our hard work [Acts 20:35]. Christ also gave himself for us to be rich in glory through His suffering.

Giving for Equality among godly brothers: We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. [Romans 15:1] Even in Leviticus 23:35, God mentioned "When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field when you reap, nor shall you gather any gleaning from your harvest. You shall leave them for the poor and for the stranger: I am the LORD

Page 114 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum your God." God even commanded in 151,4 that Israel should cancel the debts of the people on every 7 years hence there need be no poor people among you, for in the land the Lord your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, He will richly bless you. In verse 10 also, He commanded that Give generously to them and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to

Application: Spiritual growth [Calling] and salvation directly ties back to giving as in the case of Cornelius and Elisha. Proverbs 19:17 - He who has pity on the poor lends to the LORD, And He will pay back what he has given. Acts 10:1-2, Cornelius gave [b]alms generously to the poor people, and prayed to God always. It came up for a memorial before God. Lord even send Apostle Peter to send to Cornelius to teach about Christ and the salvation. 1 Kings 19:21 talks about how Elisha gave everything to people and followed Elijah. 21 So Elisha turned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen and slaughtered them and boiled their flesh, using the oxen's equipment, and gave it to the people, and they ate. Then he arose and followed Elijah, and became his servant. Giving the money will prove that we serve God as Jesus said in Matthew 6:24 / Luke 16:13 - You cannot serve God and mammon (money)

Subject: 2 Corinthians 9 [Cheerful Giving] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 10 Mar 2021 02:01:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Administering the Gift 9 Now concerning the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you; 2 for I know your willingness, about which I boast of you to the Macedonians, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal has stirred up the majority. 3 Yet I have sent the brethren, lest our boasting of you should be in vain in this respect, that, as I said, you may be ready; 4 lest if some Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we (not to mention you!) should be ashamed of this [a]confident boasting. 5 Therefore I thought it necessary to [b]exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a [c]grudging obligation.

The Cheerful Giver 6 But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows [d]bountifully will also reap [e]bountifully. 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of [f]necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work. 9 As it is written:

"He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever."

Page 115 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 10 Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and increase the fruits of your righteousness, 11 while you are enriched in everything for all liberality, which causes thanksgiving through us to God. 12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, 13 while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal sharing with them and all men, 14 and by their prayer for you, who long for you because of the exceeding grace of God in you. 15 Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 9 [Cheerful Giving] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:59:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

The SOURCE of our ABILITY to give: Everything we have has been given us as a gift from God. Let's focus on what God has allowed us to have, not on what we don't have, and let's be grateful. "It is God who gives you the ability to produce wealth," Deut 8:18. "We brought nothing into this world and we can take nothing out of it," I Tim 6:7

Our RESPONSIBILITY to the Owner of everything: It's not how much we have but what we do with what we've been given that is important God says in Lev 25:23, "The land is Mine and you are but My tenants." Levi 25:23 I Peter 4:10, "As each has received a gift, faithfully employ it to serve others, as good stewards of God's grace."

Our ACCOUNTABILITY to God: We answer to Him. God appraises our contributions to His Kingdom "Each of us will give an account of himself to God" (Rom 14:12)

Our JOY in giving: Let's be happy that we're able to give "God loves a cheerful giver" (II Cor. 9:7); "It is more blessed to give than to receive" (Acts 20:35).

The INTENT in our giving :We give out of love for God. Giving should come from the heart. II Cor. 8:12, "If the willingness is there, the gift is acceptable.

APPLICATIONS

God promises in our reading that He will open the floodgates of Heaven and pour out blessings. We have to trust God and giving cheerfully

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 9 [Cheerful Giving]

Page 116 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 16 Mar 2021 23:28:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts:

Administering the Gift 9 Now concerning the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you; 2 for I know your willingness, about which I boast of you to the Macedonians, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal has stirred up the majority. 3 Yet I have sent the brethren, lest our boasting of you should be in vain in this respect, that, as I said, you may be ready; 4 lest if some Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we (not to mention you!) should be ashamed of this [a]confident boasting. 5 Therefore I thought it necessary to [b]exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a [c]grudging obligation.

"He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever."

10 Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and increase the fruits of your righteousness, 11 while you are enriched in everything for all liberality, which causes thanksgiving through us to God. 12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, 13 while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal sharing with them and all men, 14 and by their prayer for you, who long for you because of the exceeding grace of God in you. 15 Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!

Observation:

Give to god generously and not as a grudging obligation.

Deuteronomy 15:10 Give generously to them and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to.

He who sows small will also reap small, and he who sows abundantly will also reap abundantly. each one should give as he intend in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity God will bless you with all his grace abound, He makes you sufficient in all things, have an abundance for every good work. God is our supplier, he supply and multiply the seed you have sown and increase the fruits of your righteousness.

Page 117 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 1 Chronicles 29:14 "But who am I, and who are my people, that we should be able to give as generously as this? Everything comes from you, and we have given you only what comes from your hand.

Application: Be a Cheerful Giver, God loves a cheerful giver. Cheerful heart Be enriched in everything, and give thanksgiving through us to God glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ Thanks be to God for His indescribable goodness in our life

Prayer: Lord God bless us with your exceeding grace ...

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 9 [Cheerful Giving] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 17 Mar 2021 00:38:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

Boasting on Giving: Apostle Paul boast about Corinthian's ability to give and refresh the heart of saints. Similarly, Apostle John boast about his followers walking in the truth [3 John 1:4]. Child of God's love towards Christ will reveal how they love the neighbor through their actions including gift of giving. Acts 10:1-2, Cornelius gave alms generously to the poor people and prayed to God always. It came up for a memorial before God. Lord even send Apostle Peter to send to Cornelius to teach about Christ and the salvation.

When God talked about Israel's sacrifice, He said in Psalms 50:10-12, "For every beast of the forest is Mine, The cattle on a thousand hills. For the world is Mine, and all it contains. Also, in Acts 7:49 'Heaven is My throne, and earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the LORD, or what is the place of My rest?

Cheerful Giving: our Lord loves cheerful giver. As he mentioned in Matthew 6:24, You cannot serve God and wealth. Lord Christ wants us to break the dependency on treasure and wealth so we are always dependent on His providence. We get everything from God as it is written in Romans 11:36, For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

Application: Our Lord wants us to leave everything behind before becoming His disciple. When Jesus asked the rich ruler to sell all that he possesses and distribute it to poor, he went away sad because he don't want to do that. Jesus then said to all his disciples, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God. [Luke 18:22,29]

Proverb 19:19 says, He who has pity on the poor lends to the Lord, And He will pay back what he

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Subject: 2 Corinthians 10 [Spiritual Warfare and Authority] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 17 Mar 2021 01:52:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now I, Paul, myself am pleading with you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ--who in presence am lowly among you, but being absent am bold toward you. 2 But I beg you that when I am present I may not be bold with that confidence by which I intend to be bold against some, who think of us as if we walked according to the flesh. 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not [a]carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

Reality of Paul's Authority 7 Do you look at things according to the outward appearance? If anyone is convinced in himself that he is Christ's, let him again consider this in himself, that just as he is Christ's, even [b]so we are Christ's. 8 For even if I should boast somewhat more about our authority, which the Lord gave [c]us for [d]edification and not for your destruction, I shall not be ashamed-- 9 lest I seem to terrify you by letters. 10 "For his letters," they say, "are weighty and powerful, but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible." 11 Let such a person consider this, that what we are in word by letters when we are absent, such we will also be in deed when we are present.

Limits of Paul's Authority 12 For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 13 We, however, will not boast beyond measure, but within the limits of the sphere which God appointed us--a sphere which especially includes you. 14 For we are not overextending ourselves (as though our authority did not extend to you), for it was to you that we came with the gospel of Christ; 15 not boasting of things beyond measure, that is, in other men's labors, but having hope, that as your faith is increased, we shall be greatly enlarged by you in our sphere, 16 to preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's sphere of accomplishment.

17 But "he who glories, let him glory in the Lord." 18 For not he who commends himself is approved, but whom the Lord commends.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 10 [Spiritual Warfare and Authority] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 23 Mar 2021 22:42:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

Page 119 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Paul is asking to Be submissive, humble and gentle as like Christ, also keep yourself obedience and lowly Also be bold and confident when ministering god Though we are of flesh our warfare is not of worldly weapons. we get our strength from god for spiritual war. Lord gave authority us for edification and not for destruction Paul not only wants his letters are powerful also wants physical presence and his speech should be strong and powerful do not boasting of things beyond measure, but boast yourself in god within the measure Do not compare with in yourselves. Have hope and faith so we can increase in god.

Romans 5:11 Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Application: glory in the Lord, do not boast yourself In god pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and bringing every thought into captivity and punish all disobedience

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 10 [Spiritual Warfare and Authority] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:55:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS

Paul compares himself (or contrast) with the false preachers. Keep in mind that Paul is having to defend his ministry because of false reports and rumors. What do we discover about Paul with regards to a genuine preacher?

Right motives -

He was motivated by God and good not greed. "Jealousy" = affection, love. He's like a father caring for his family. He wanted the best for them. He was not "cunning" or "crafty". He has one goal that is bring the truth to the church.

Right message (4-5): The Corinthians had received false teachers and followed false leadership. They paid more attention to the messenger than the message. They preached a different Jesus, different spirit and a different gospel. Paul's message focused solely on the Saviour.

Right attitude about money (7-11): Every preacher faces three great dangers power, women, and money! Paul was very careful about all three. He believed a preacher had the right to be paid (I Cor. 9:13), yet he chose to support himself by tentmaking. The irony here is that Paul had preached the true gospel for free while the false preachers peddled a false gospel for profit.

Page 120 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Right mentality (12-15): This is one of Paul's most stinging rebukes (v.13). He took a militant stance.

While the false preachers carried a long list of recommendations from church leaders (resumes you know), Paul just listed his credentials.

APPLICATIONS: He is a great example for believers and church leaders - They way he wrote the letter that he has confident that he lived as per word of God -We are living in sinful world, we need to live according to the word and overcome all the temptations during our life. - We need to bring glory to Jesus only and it will be the only focus in our life

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 10 [Spiritual Warfare and Authority] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:30:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: Jesus said that He is gentle and humble[lowly] in heart [Matthew 11:29]. Similarly, Paul pleading with Corinthians in the same manner of meekness and gentleness of Christ. Paul is a true disciple who practices the teachings and the life of Christ. Paul distinguishes the identity of fleshly outward appearance and Spirit nature. Corinthians considered Paul's letter as bold, but his physical appearance / presence is weak considering his body in flesh. Our war is not with flesh and blood [Ephesians 6:12] but against principalities and authorities against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly places.

James also mentioned in his letter, James 3:9 not to curse humans who have been made in the likeness of God. We have an enemy as defined in 1 Peter 5:8, Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Spiritual Authority

Lord has provided the Spiritual gifts and in turn authority to edify the church. As in 2 Corinthians 10:8 says, for even if I should boast somewhat more about our authority, which the Lord gave us for edification and not for your destruction. 1 Corinthians 14:12, So you too, since you are eager to possess spiritual gifts, strive to excel for the edification of the church.

Lord has provided us the sphere of authority over certain people (or) areas / locations as described in 2 Corinthians 10:13 We, however, will not boast beyond measure, but within the limits of the sphere which God appointed us--a sphere which especially includes you. We also boast and take pride in glory of the LORD.

Application: We should not have anything that associate with devil and be like Christ who for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. [John 14:10] Jesus teaches us how not to entrust in men's testimony but to look from commendation (or)

Page 121 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum appreciation from Lord. [John 2:24,25] If at all we need to compare ourselves with someone we should compare with Christ and we should look unto Jesus and run our race. [Hebrews 12:1-2]

Paul preaches what he practices and his spiritual letter is inline with his deeds in flesh. [1 Thessalonians 1:5 - For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.]

Subject: 2 Corinthians 11:1-15 [Faithfulness and False Apostles] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 24 Mar 2021 04:02:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 11 Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly--and indeed you do bear with me. 2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the [a]simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted--you may well put up with it!

Paul and False Apostles 5 For I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles. 6 Even though I am untrained in speech, yet I am not in knowledge. But we have [b]been thoroughly manifested among you in all things.

7 Did I commit sin in [c]humbling myself that you might be exalted, because I preached the gospel of God to you free of charge? 8 I robbed other churches, taking wages from them to minister to you. 9 And when I was present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no one, for what I lacked the brethren who came from Macedonia supplied. And in everything I kept myself from being burdensome to you, and so I will keep myself. 10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no one shall stop me from this boasting in the regions of Achaia. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows!

12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:1-15 [Faithfulness and False Apostles] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 21:05:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS :

Page 122 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Essentially, Paul had decided that he had to lower himself to the level of boasting, which he considered foolishness. He clearly did not do this for the purpose of building himself up, but he did it because he was forced to defend his credentials. He had to convince the Corinthians of his worthiness to be trusted, to be listened to. He had to compare his own ministry with that of the false apostles who had infected the Corinthian church with false doctrine. Inevitably, Paul knew, that speaking about himself like this would seem like foolish boasting.

Matthew 24:4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. The immediate context of this passage is Jesus' warning about the end times, and the many false prophets who would lead people astray. But seen in the light of the many other warnings about deception, Paul knew that Jesus' words: "watch out that no one deceives you," could be taken as a warning for every kind of deception.

Romans 16:17-18 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of native people.

You know what Paul was saying? Paul was saying to the Corinthians, why would you listen to these guys? Why don't you listen to me? Haven't I earned that much? In verse 4, he appeals to the welcome they gave visitors who came proclaiming a message other than the gospel that they had embraced, the gospel that brought them salvation.

APPLICATIONS: - We need to present as virgin to Christ and look for the lead who can lead us in his path - We need to carefully examined false Apostles and and their teaching and get away from them - Every actions and deeds should reflect and exalt Jesus Christ alone

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:1-15 [Faithfulness and False Apostles] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 23:48:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 2 Corinthians 11:1-15 Faithfulness and False Apostles

1 Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly--and indeed you do bear with me. 2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the [a]simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted--you may well put up with it!

Paul and False Apostles

Page 123 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum 5 For I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles. 6 Even though I am untrained in speech, yet I am not in knowledge. But we have [b]been thoroughly manifested among you in all things.

OBSERVATION

Don't be deceived, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness

Colossians 2 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.

Beware of some one preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted.

1 John 4 1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Beware of false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.

Galatians 1 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

APPLICATION

Preached the gospel of God to others free of charge

Page 124 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Humbling ourself and god might be exalted, Be faithful to god. Even though you are untrained in speech, not good in knowledge god will thoroughly manifested among us. And the end will be according to our works.

PRAYER

God keep us faithful and kep us away from deceptive nature of this world.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:1-15 [Faithfulness and False Apostles] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 00:29:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

Paul presents church as the chaste virgin betrothed to Jesus which is similar to How Lord saw Israel in old covenant. [Isaiah 54:5, For your Maker is your husband, The Lord of hosts is His name; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel; ] Lord brought us into the marriage covenant and He addressed Israel as "Return, O backsliding children," says the Lord; "for I am married to you. [Jeremiah 3:14] Even Apostle John in his letter [2 John 1:9-10], If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;

Paul talks about his weakness in oratory skills while still boasting in knowledge of LORD. He also talked about presenting the Gospel in free of charge to others even though it cost him his very own life. Paul even calls Lord to testify of his love towards His church.

Paul warned them about false teachers and doctrines and watched them on their works all their life to the end for discernment.

Application: So, our Lord is a jealous God [for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God - Exodus 34:14] If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. [Luke 14:26]

Even though Judas started his ministry well as an apostle of Christ, but he was not able to live a life of godliness through the end as described in Acts 1:17 for he was numbered with us and obtained a part in this ministry." 18 (Now this man purchased a field with the [g]wages of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his [h]entrails gushed out. We should know them by their fruits to distinguish them from false teachers /apostles.

Apostle John also talked about spirit of Anti-Christ in in 1 John 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess [a]that Jesus [b]Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

Page 125 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: 2 Corinthians 11:16-32 [Suffering for Christ] Posted by john.svk on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 01:13:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 16 I say again, let no one think me a fool. If otherwise, at least receive me as a fool, that I also may boast a little. 17 What I speak, I speak not according to the Lord, but as it were, foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Seeing that many boast according to the flesh, I also will boast. 19 For you put up with fools gladly, since you yourselves are wise! 20 For you put up with it if one brings you into bondage, if one devours you, if one takes from you, if one exalts himself, if one strikes you on the face. 21 To our shame I say that we were too weak for that! But in whatever anyone is bold--I speak foolishly--I am bold also.

Suffering for Christ 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? So am I. 23 Are they ministers of Christ?--I speak as a fool--I am more: in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequently, in deaths often. 24 From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26 in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 27 in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness-- 28 besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation?

30 If I must boast, I will boast in the things which concern my [d]infirmity. 31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. 32 In Damascus the governor, under Aretas the king, was guarding the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desiring to arrest me; 33 but I was let down in a basket through a window in the wall, and escaped from his hands.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:16-32 [Suffering for Christ] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:15:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS :

- Paul is not like the "real" fools who boast of their credentials. This will be evident when Paul starts stating his credentials as a true apostle! -Paul didn't like to talk about himself. He was happy to write for we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord (2 Corinthians 4:5). - The bondage Paul speaks of may indicate that these false apostles were legalists, trying to put people under the bondage of the Law. It is just as likely that the bondage Paul refers to is the personal domination and authority the most eminent apostles held over others -Paul knows very well that his blood ancestry does not make him an apostle or a servant of Jesus.

For your own GOOD : Some people are hard headed and they have to learn the hard way.

Page 126 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum -(Romans 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. - Even when we don't realize it God is working for our good

For our GROWTH : If you triumph over trouble one time when it comes back the second time you will be spiritually ready

For the GLORY of Christ : (2Corinthians 12:9) And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Paul wanted the power of God more than he wanted life. When we are at our weakest point then can Christ be glorified

APPLICATIONS :

-As a church we need to be strong in work of God, otherwise we will fall into destruction. - Suffering is a testing process and God will look for the results on our faith - We need to be live as a testimony for our ministries and boldly preach without any expectation from believers - Only Jesus name should be glorified.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:16-32 [Suffering for Christ] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:31:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE

2 Corinthians 11:16-32 [Suffering for Christ]

16 I say again, let no one think me a fool. If otherwise, at least receive me as a fool, that I also may boast a little. 17 What I speak, I speak not according to the Lord, but as it were, foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Seeing that many boast according to the flesh, I also will boast. 19 For you put up with fools gladly, since you yourselves are wise! 20 For you put up with it if one brings you into bondage, if one devours you, if one takes from you, if one exalts himself, if one strikes you on the face. 21 To our shame I say that we were too weak for that! But in whatever anyone is bold--I speak foolishly--I am bold also.

Page 127 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum nakedness-- 28 besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation?

OBSERVATION

Paul did not boast himself in flesh or worldly things rather boast himself in god. Paul boast about his sufferings for christ, , his sufferings due to his ministry. Paul wants to boast in god with humbleness. Jesus christ have humbleness when he did his ministry. what ever you receive which is constsantly on move, You receive sufferings and dangers are from all the sides, from every where. so dont fear and god will escape us from all sufferings and dangers. foolishness of god is greater than wisdom of this world 1 Corinthians 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. so be strong in our god.

APPLICATION

Boast yourself in god not in flesh God is our ultimate saviour who will rescue us from all our sufferings, so trust god always whatever happens

PRAYER

Lord help us to boast in you and save us from worldly sufferings

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:16-32 [Suffering for Christ] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 00:35:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation:

1) Paul talks about the boasting in flesh where people talk about their heritage, their wisdom and riches. As scripture refers in Jeremiah 9:23,24 , Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, Let not

Page 128 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum the mighty man glory in his might, Nor let the rich man glory in his riches But let him boast in the Lord that He exercises lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. Paul mentioned the sufferings and hardship that he went through in his ministry. Jesus also said in John 15:20, Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you

2) Apostles and God's ministers are true servants of God who bless others even at the cost of their blessing. In 2 Corinthians 8:9, For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich. Even though Paul and Christ blessed others they did not use that for their personal gain. (Mark 15:31 Likewise the chief priests also, mocking among themselves with the scribes, said, "He saved others; Himself He cannot save. 32 Let the Christ, the King of Israel, descend now from the cross, that we may see and [a]believe.")

Application: We should not come to Lord for blessing alone but come to Him and worship Him for His attributes including Love, Humbleness, Faithfulness, Goodness etc.. Paul was a blessing to the people even though he was stoned, robbed, shipwrecked, toiled, striped etc.

Paul even called Lord Jesus to witness for his suffering and persecution that how he freely bless the people through the grace and anointing of Lord as in Matthew 10:8, Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

Paul did not live the life of renowned and worldly accomplished life-style even though he had a great heritage but he left everything to know the Lord [PHilippians 3:8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ]

Prayer: Dear Lord, let the life of Christ and Paul influence our life and our ministry.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 11:16-32 [Suffering for Christ] Posted by isaac on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 00:42:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation : Verse 16 to 18 Paul being sarcastic about Corinthians that they were able to put up with fools who are legalist and imposing old covenant way of living instead of relying on Jesus they are relying on law. Corinthians were fine to be under legalism instead of choosing freedom through Jesus Christ. From V22 Paul talks about the boast people have in claiming to be Israelite or Hebrews or even ministers of God. Paul is boasting on the suffering which is very we hear from any ministers of God. In all these sufferings his major concern was for the churches.

Application : If we are still happy to living in legalism under the law we need to come out of that bondage and live freely in Christ which is the very purpose of Jesus Christ dying on the cross.

Page 129 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum We need to examine ourselves on what we are boasting about in this life, are we boasting on living in a great country or having great wealth or job. It is good to praise and glorify God for all the blessings but we should not forget our calling in the midst of all these momentary things but focus on preaching gospel. Are we concerned about our personal growth on this earth or on the churches. We should concern more about churches if we are true servant of God.

Subject: 2 Corinthians 12:1-13 [Apostleship] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 02:32:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 12 It is [a]doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 5 Of such a one I will boast; yet of myself I will not boast, except in my infirmities. 6 For though I might desire to boast, I will not be a fool; for I will speak the truth. But I refrain, lest anyone should think of me above what he sees me to be or hears from me.

The Thorn in the Flesh 7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to [b]buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 8 Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. 9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong

11 I have become a fool [c]in boasting; you have compelled me. For I ought to have been commended by you; for in nothing was I behind the most eminent apostles, though I am nothing. 12 Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds. 13 For what is it in which you were inferior to other churches, except that I myself was not burdensome to you? Forgive me this wrong!

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 12:1-13 [Apostleship] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:22:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS: Apostle Paul after his conversion on the road to Damascus was a new creation- his priorities totally changes and he went from a religious man to a man that was on mission for Jesus. To have an encounter with Jesus, where Jesus himself made himself known and said why do you persecute me Saul?.To have a relationship with the savior so intense and personal that he is willing to suffer and die for the cause of Christ. Many say it but few live it!. He is trying to explain the connection and relationship with God in depth.

Page 130 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum I. God the Revelator Discloses Paradise :Through the revelation of God Paul gets a picture of paradise. He was caught up into glory. Interestly enough, this revelation is mentioned nowhere else in his letters. Why would Paul write about it here? Because the false teaches had invaded the church and captivated the Corinthians with their boastings of dreams, visions and revelations. They were misleading people.

II. God the Terminator Destroys Pride : it was "given" and by "God". It was a "thorn". Most thorns are little things. They are commonplace, plentiful and sharp. They are intensely painful but not lethal. Whatever it was it was annoying, painful, persistent and burdensome. It was a constant torture that daily harassed him.

III. God the Motivator Deepens Prayer :Paul goes from paradise to pain to pleading. This drove him to his knees. Surely a miracle would occur. Paul is so divinely connected, surely God would take it away.But look. Request denied! The stake stays. There will be no quick fix, no miracle. I won't remove the stake but I will give you more strength to overcome.

IV. God the Liberator Develops Power: Suffering hurts. The power coming from Paul is most clearly seen as coming from God when Paul appears to be the weakest. Paul came to accept the way God's power was working in his life.

APPLICATION: We cannot taken as you will have no thorns in life, nor will they be removed. But we can trust God grace is sufficient always! He will provide more power to overcome all our thorns God will motivate us and provide more strength to overcome al our issues/

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 12:1-13 [Apostleship] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:29:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 2 Corinthians 12:1-13 [Apostleship] 12 It is [a]doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 5 Of such a one I will boast; yet of myself I will not boast, except in my infirmities. 6 For though I might desire to boast, I will not be a fool; for I will speak the truth. But I refrain, lest anyone should think of me above what he sees me to be or hears from me.

Page 131 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong

OBSERVATION Paul was saying boasting our pride is not worth for an apostle/anybody. Instead boast on gods miracles, mighty, rightiousness. Paul said he gladly boast on his infirmities and and he knew god is his refugee

Proverbs 27:1 Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring.

Gods grace is sufficient for us, for our strength is made perfect in weakness. We should take pleasure in infirmities, in disappointment, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake.

Philippians 3:8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ

These are the qualities of an apostle,

Signs of an apostle are keep perseverance in signs and wonders and mighty deeds.

APPLICATION

Boast your infirmities in god and get strenthen over your weakness

PRAYER

Load god you are our refugee and fort

Subject: 2 Corinthians 12:14-21 [Love for Church] Posted by john.svk on Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:09:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 132 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Love for the Church 14 Now for the third time I am ready to come to you. And I will not be burdensome to you; for I do not seek yours, but you. For the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. 15 And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved.

16 But be that as it may, I did not burden you. Nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you by cunning! 17 Did I take advantage of you by any of those whom I sent to you? 18 I urged Titus, and sent our brother with him. Did Titus take advantage of you? Did we not walk in the same spirit? Did we not walk in the same steps?

19 Again, [d]do you think that we excuse ourselves to you? We speak before God in Christ. But we do all things, beloved, for your edification. 20 For I fear lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I wish, and that I shall be found by you such as you do not wish; lest there be contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, backbitings, whisperings, conceits, tumults; 21 lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness which they have practiced.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 12:14-21 [Love for Church] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 27 Apr 2021 21:31:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS :

Paul handled his ministry there with integrity. Paul sacrificed for them This was not the first time he'd tried to straighten them out They bought into false teachers. They accommodated their sin. THE UNFORTUNATE, PAINFUL TRUTH: With some churches, there is no easy fix. - Sometimes it's bad leaders; sometimes it's bad theology; sometimes it's bad influences. - As is true for parents, sometimes a pastor can do everything right and still end up with a mess. - Reading a lot of Christian leadership books or listening to Christian leadership conferences, you can come away presuming that every troubled congregation is five easy steps away from wholeness and unity. Some congregations are just big messes. - This principle also applies to other arenas: families, workplaces, etc. You try to sacrificially love amid the turmoil, but sometimes the turmoil doesn't get better.

APPLICATIONS: - Ministers should be a model of Kingdom of God. - Did we not walk in the same spirit ? - Both Preachers and believers should have same understanding of Word of God. -Christ is our model and we need to focus on him only - Salvation is important and everyone should know the living pattern of kingdom of God

Page 133 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 12:14-21 [Love for Church] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 27 Apr 2021 23:24:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 2 Corinthians 12:14-21 [Love for Church]

14 Now for the third time I am ready to come to you. And I will not be burdensome to you; for I do not seek yours, but you. For the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. 15 And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved.

OBSERVATION

Paul told ministers should not be burden to others. They should seek the people not their belongings It is apostles duty to take care of the church, Ministers have to spent more time for bring souls into christ when we tell gospel we face opposition. gods people not loved by this world All of us need to walk in same spirit Dont take advantage on others for the sake of christ Repent for who practiced sin in their life like uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness Get rid of contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, backbitings, whisperings, conceits, tumults

Gospel is free,Do not burdensome to the church 1 John 5 5 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 2 This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3 In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, 4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

Page 134 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum APPLICATION

Love the church, love the people Reach people for the sake of gospel

PRAYER

Lord use us to spread your love to others

Subject: 2 Corinthians 13:1-6 [Authority] Posted by john.svk on Mon, 17 May 2021 20:46:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 13 This will be the third time I am coming to you. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established." 2 I have told you before, and foretell as if I were present the second time, and now being absent [a]I write to those who have sinned before, and to all the rest, that if I come again I will not spare-- 3 since you seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, who is not weak toward you, but mighty in you. 4 For though He was crucified in weakness, yet He lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in Him, but we shall live with Him by the power of God toward you.

5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?--unless indeed you [b]are disqualified. 6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 13:1-6 [Authority] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 18 May 2021 21:03:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS:

- Paul tells the Corinthians that he is planning to make a third visit to them. This has been necessitated by the ongoing questionable behavior of the church there. -- God does not give up on us when we fail. He doesn't even give up on us when we plow forward down a wrong road. He chastises, rebukes, disciplines toward getting us going the right way. - So too we as Christians are not supposed to give up on our brothers and sisters in Christ when they make terrible decisions. - Paul warns them that the discipline he had threatened earlier was about to become a reality. When he says that he will "not spare" them, he means that he intends to bring discipline for their sins. -we see that the Corinthians had mistaken Paul's patience for weakness. They are "demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me." They didn't believe that Paul was a good representative of Christ. Why? Because they had fallen under the spell of the "super-apostles" - In the moment of Jesus going to cross, it seemed a defeat. It seemed that evil had won and

Page 135 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Jesus was not powerful enough. But we know that is not what was actually going on. Jesus' crucifixion was not a sign of weakness, but of love. Jesus did not go to the cross because He lacked power to overcome the Pharisees and Romans, but because He loved us and wanted to free us from our sin. APPLICATIONS: - We have to examine ourselves where is our faith in? - Christ's crucifixion is not a sign of weakness and it is a victory. - We need to learn Patience from Paul's life and and correct the church wherever is required with fatherly love.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 13:1-6 [Authority] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 18 May 2021 23:33:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scripts: 2 Corinthians 13:1-6 [Authority]

13 This will be the third time I am coming to you. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established." 2 I have told you before, and foretell as if I were present the second time, and now being absent [a]I write to those who have sinned before, and to all the rest, that if I come again I will not spare-- 3 since you seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, who is not weak toward you, but mighty in you. 4 For though He was crucified in weakness, yet He lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in Him, but we shall live with Him by the power of God toward you.

Observation:

Apostles should not allow sin and misbehavior in their churches and before accusing anybody Paul is asking to consider few witnesses to confirm the truth and condemn them.

As Christ seems weak in flesh but strong in sprit, though we are weak in flesh we have to strong in Christ.

Everybody is seeking proof of Christ in others John 15:5 5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. we need examine our faith often and make sure we are strong in our faith. God checks our faith to strengthen us in spirit and grow us towards spiritual blessings

Page 136 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Philippians 3:14 New International Version 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

Application: Trust in Christ Jesus oppose to sinful nature

Prayer: lord god strengthen us and enable us to stand against sinful nature

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 13:1-6 [Authority] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 19 May 2021 00:28:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1) By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established. Here Paul warned Corinthians 3 times about the sins by quoting from Deuteronomy 17:6, On the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses the one who is to die shall be put to death. Also, Jesus in 1 John 5:7 says, for there are three that bear witness [b]in heaven: The Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

2) Paul's credibility on His ministry was being questioned and for that Paul was responding even though the signs of apostleship have been performed with signs and wonders and mighty works. (2 Corinthians 12:12, 1 Corinthians 9:1-2)

3) We must constantly check ourselves and validate whether we are in faith. 1 Corinthians 10:12, Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. No temptation has seized you except what is common to man.

Application: Let those who run the race of faith disciplined their body and bring it to subjection, lest when Paul preached, he should not be disqualified. [1 Corinthians 9:24-27]

Paul also testified that he lived a life of commendation and it is worthy of following him as he follow Christ' [2 Corinthians 6:4,5 - but as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: by great endurance, in afflictions, hardships, calamities, 5 beatings, imprisonments, riots, labors, sleepless nights, hunger; 6 by purity, knowledge, patience, kindness, the Holy Spirit, genuine love; 7 by truthful speech, and the power of God;] [1 Corinthians 11:1]

Paul understand the advantage of being weak as he knows the more he become weak the more Christ Strength revealed. [2 Corinthians 12:9-10]

Page 137 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum Subject: 2 Corinthians 13:7-14 [ Gentleness and Benediction] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 19 May 2021 02:10:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Paul Prefers Gentleness 7 Now [c]I pray to God that you do no evil, not that we should appear approved, but that you should do what is honorable, though we may seem disqualified. 8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. 9 For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong. And this also we pray, that you may be made complete. 10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the authority which the Lord has given me for edification and not for destruction.

Greetings and Benediction 11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Become complete. Be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.

12 Greet one another with a holy kiss.

13 All the saints greet you.

14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the [d]communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen.

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 13:7-14 [ Gentleness and Benediction] Posted by cpchellaa on Tue, 25 May 2021 22:24:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SCRIPTURE 2 Corinthians 13:7-14 [ Gentleness and Benediction]

Paul Prefers Gentleness 7 Now [c]I pray to God that you do no evil, not that we should appear approved, but that you should do what is honorable, though we may seem disqualified. 8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. 9 For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong. And this also we pray, that you may be made complete. 10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the authority which the Lord has given me for edification and not for destruction.

Greetings and Benediction 11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Become complete. Be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.

12 Greet one another with a holy kiss.

13 All the saints greet you.

14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the [d]communion of the Holy

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OBSERVATION

Paul urge us to do honorable acts, God made us perfect, so our actions should be perfect. We need to use our body and mind wisely. Lords authority has be given for edification and not for destruction. We should be honest, humble, adorabe, holy, righteous ...

We can see greeting all over pauls letters. We always greet others in the name of trinity. Live the life, your life should become complete, enjoy the comfort of god. one minded, live in love and peace of christ. Greet others, love others, live together as a church.

Love of god that sent christ to this world, Grace of Jesus who died for us on the cross, communion of holy spirit that unify us that pentecostal day to till now , all three love, grace and communion should be with all of us.

JOHN 14 23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

25 "All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. 27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

APPLICATION

Live a complete life as god expected. Love others and spread the love of god.

PRAYER

God help us to posses all your great qualities and made us complete inside and outside

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 13:7-14 [ Gentleness and Benediction] Posted by mohandoss on Tue, 25 May 2021 23:45:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message OBSERVATIONS

-Paul, even as an apostle, could do nothing against the truth. Even the apostles were not above

Page 139 of 140 ---- Generated from HIPM Forum the truth. Paul could only work effectively for the truth, not against the truth. -If Paul's weakness could contribute to the strength of the Corinthian Christians, he would be glad. His real concern was that the Corinthians may be made complete. -Paul preferred that the Corinthian Christians would clean up their act before he came to see them. He wanted to use his authority for edification, not destruction. -Paul revealed that he prayed that you may be made complete. Now he exhorts them to help answer his prayer as he challenges them to become complete. -We often think that our comfort, or being of one mind, and our being at peace with others just depends on them. In part that is true, but it also depends on us. We need to let God worry about their part, and we can worry about our part.

APPLICATIONS -we should not do any Evil and always it should be honorable to God - Whatever we do, it is only for the truth because Jesus is holy and he lived inside of us - Our ministry is for edification and not for destruction -As a minister, we always should comfort the church and lead them to become complete

Subject: Re: 2 Corinthians 13:7-14 [ Gentleness and Benediction] Posted by john.svk on Wed, 26 May 2021 00:29:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Observation: 1)Paul's prayer to the church is not to do evil. Sin is evil and Paul re-iterated in various verses that we should not sin and do righteous things (1 Corinthians 15:34, Ephesians 4:26) 2)Paul is glad for him to be rather weak to see the church strong. He stated that earlier in 1 Corinthians 4:10, We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are dishonored! 3)Paul wants to use the authority given by the Lord for edification with the heart of parenthood. (1 Thessalonians 2:11, as you know how we exhorted, and comforted, and charged every one of you, as a father does his own children

Application: Paul tried to live a life of godliness by loving the church [bride of Christ] and sacrifice for it more than himself. If we love the Lord our God with all your heart, then we will love neighbors as ourselves.

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