Stanley Jordan: “My Spirit Transcends Gender”
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ACCOUNT Home > Features > Stanley Jordan: “My Spirit Transcends Gender” Stanley Jordan: “My Spirit Transcends Gender” The guitarist speaks out about freedom and authenticity UPDATED APRIL 25, 2019 – DAVID R. ADLER Stanley Jordan Stanley Jordan at the 2015 Detroit Jazz Festival. Photo courtesy of the festival • • • • • o say that Stanley Jordan turned jazz guitar upside down when he came to prominence in the mid- 1980s is almost a literal truth. Emulating the piano, his rst instrument, Jordan developed a “touch T style” of guitar by fretting with both hands on the neck, opening another contrapuntal avenue for the instrument and setting a new standard of excellence for solo performance. Today Jordan often plays guitar and piano simultaneously, in his own projects and with bassist Charnett Moffett’s NeTTwork, among other groups. His next album for Mack Avenue, which will follow Duets with Kevin Eubanks, is slated for release in 2016. Lately Jordan has found an enthusiastic welcome on the jam-band circuit, sitting in with the Dave Matthews Band, Umphrey’s McGee and Phil Lesh and Friends. He remains active in software development and music therapy. And along the way there’s been a profound personal change: Jordan has adopted an androgynous “femme” look that he’s spoken very little about until now. He’s reluctant to label himself but happy to relate how his appearance, one of many aspects of his multilayered identity, has everything to do with his art. Currently based in Sedona, Ariz., Jordan, 56, is rarely home. “They tell me it’s nice,” he says. After a three- night run with NeTTwork at Richard Bona’s new Club BonaOde in Manhattan, he took off to Russia. Soon he’d be leaving for Luanda, Angola. But back in New York in early November to sit in with the Roots on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, Jordan was available for a wide-ranging chat about his personal journey, peppered with offhand references to Ohm’s law, Gödel’s completeness theorem, philosopher Ken Wilber, transgender activist Virginia Prince and more. In the end, Jordan’s story speaks to issues of gender and sexuality that go far back in the history of jazz yet often go unacknowledged. Tell me about your aPnity for the jam bands. I’ve always felt really comfortable with the jam-band scene. Long before they called it that I used to play rock with my buddies, back in the ’70s. Were you playing touch style yet? I was just starting to, in ’76 or ’77. The whole concept of music as a happening, as a scene, going with the dow, improvising, was happening not just in rock but in jazz, and that was a big induence for me. I saw Herbie Hancock, George Benson, Stanley Turrentine-this was like 1970. I saw Prince Lasha, I saw the Charles Moffett band, and that’s when I rst saw Charnett, when he was 8. This whole idea that music is about freedom was a stamp on my psyche right from the beginning. You did a video interview with Lee Hawkins for The Wall Street Journal‘s website, and he mentioned in passing that you used to have an Afro when you started out. It’s the closest I’ve seen anyone come to asking about your appearance in recent years. Can you discuss what brought about the shift in how you present yourself? Art and life work together mutually. I’ve always tried to approach my life as an artist, trying to create beauty. A lot of things that make art special are the same ingredients that are the essence of life. Then there’s also the idea that great art puts you in the moment, which is what the sages from the East have been saying for thousands of years, that to grow spiritually you have to be in the moment. Part of the reason jazz has always attracted me is that it’s about making that amazing creative moment. And yet as I progressed on the professional side, I started to realize more and more that there are some limits to that freedom. There were unspoken rules. And I started to notice that just by naturally being myself I was breaking some of those rules and I was starting to get ak for it. As a player? Even in my dress code. For example, I had some experiences with “Papa” Jo Jones, who for a brief moment took me under his wing and was showing me around the city. It was a wonderful experience, but I remember one time he pulled me aside and kinda told me off a little bit. He said, “I wear a suit, you know, and if you’re gonna go with me you have to be respectable and wear a suit.” So, note to self, next time with Jo Jones, wear a suit. I didn’t even have a suit! [laughs] [One night] I was playing [in my suit], and I was on break and someone came up to me and said, “I’ve seen you many times before, and I just have to say, I really think you play better when you’re not wearing a suit.” [laughs] I was devastated! What do you mean? Why can’t I be one of these Young Lions wearing the suit? I found out later that if you spend a thousand dollars on the suit and you get it tailored, then that’s a whole different thing. So did your style start evolving from that point forward? When I did the live tracks that came out on Cornucopia [1990], I hired a stylist for that. I was nally starting to explore the style aspect more freely. We had different looks: I had a really nice tailored suit, and then I also had a more hip look. Then we did a change and I had some leather pants. I was starting to see that to really be true to myself, I could not be stuck in one mold. There’s no one image that really ts who I am. That was the beginning of dealing with that. I’d always kind of known it. When I did Friends [2011] I took that idea to another level. By then I had evolved a lot and started to appreciate my own diversity as a person. And I decided that on this album I was going to cover a bigger range of expression, all the different facets of who I am. So I wore different things in order to get into the head of the different songs. And I found that the experience was phenomenally successful. If jazz is about expressing who you are, you gotta really deal with who you are. And who am I? There’s so many different facets. I’m a hippie, I’m a homeboy, I’m a girly girl, I’m an Ivy League academic, I’m a tech geek. [Ed. Note: Jordan graduated from Princeton University in 1981.] I’m GQ, I’m Vanity Fair. I’m an athlete, I’m a teacher, I’m a healer. All these things are really real to me. I started out playing classical music, I come from rock, I come from jazz, and all these things I did when I was really young. I grew up at a time when things were very open and there were a lot of musical inuences intermixing, different cultures and stuff. And there was this feeling that through music you could change the world. That became part of the reason why I play. So when you say “deal with who you are,” you’re talking about more than gender. I’m talking about on every level. One of the big complaints I got is that I couldn’t make up my mind what style of music to play. That was one of the big criticisms. I was like, “Well, who says that I’m even trying to make up my mind?” First, let’s look at what my actual intentions are. I don’t t into a mold that I’m aware of. I had to deal with that, and at the same time I had to transcend that. Because I had to realize that by manifesting the courage to be all these different facets of myself and overcoming the fear of the consequences of that-and it’s not over, I still have fear; this is a daily thing-but by overcoming that fear I feel like I can maybe do some good and actually accomplish something. Has the fear lessened in recent years with more and more public acknowledgment of LGBTQ rights? Do you Lnd there’s more of an open door you can walk through? Yeah, I feel like there’s been a gradual change. And I also feel like in my own little corner of the world I’ve helped to create a change. Virginia Prince said people are hardwired for the truth. If you just put your truth out there you can trust that people are going to have to deal with it, and sooner or later they probably will. Do you refer to yourself as transgender? I don’t really know. I can’t give you a word for what I am. The best label I can think of is “Stanley,” honestly. I’m pretty comfortable with that. And by the way, [President Obama]’s mother was named Stanley. A lot of people don’t know that Stanley can be a female name. Let me tell you about a really pivotal moment in my life.