1.1. Hiroshi Mano (Allied Telesis R&D Center)

May 2013 doc.: IEEE 802.11-13/0412r44

IEEE P802.11 Wireless LANs

March-May Teleconference Minutes

Date: 2013-05-08

Author(s): Name Affiliation Address Phone email Hitoshi Allied Telesis R&D 2-14-38 Tenjin, Chuo-ku, +81 92 771 7630 hmorioka@root- Morioka Center Fukuoka 810-0001 JAPAN hq.com

Abstract Minutes of the TGai teleconference held on April 9th and 16th, 23rd and May 7th.

Submission page 1Hitoshi Morioka, Allied Telesis R&D Center May 2013 doc.: IEEE 802.11-13/0412r44

Tuesday April 9, 2013 10:00ET

1. Attendee 1.1. Hiroshi Mano (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.2. Hitoshi Morioka (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.3. Lee Armstrong (US DoT) 1.4. Ping Fang (Huawei) 1.5. Jing-Rong Hsieh (HTC) 1.6. David Goodall (Broadcom) 1.7. Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories) 1.8. Lei Wang (InerDigital) 1.9. Jae Seung Lee (ETRI) 1.10. Giwon Park (LG) 2. Chair called the meeting to order at 10:05. 3. Agenda: 11-13/0411r0. 4. Chair requested to review March meeting minutes (11-13/0388r1). 5. Current draft status (Lee Armstrong) 5.1. Editor will send D5.0 to submitter and request review. 5.2. Clean version for WG review will be available by the end of this week. 5.3. Adrian will prepare e-poll for comment collection. (Hiroshi Mano) 5.4. WG review will start 12th April, Friday. (Hiroshi Mano) 6. Berlin ad-hoc meeting 6.1. Ad-hoc meeting may be held in Berlin in July. 6.2. Discuss in May meeting. 7. Adjourned at 10:12.

1. Attendee 1.1. Hiroshi Mano (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.2. Marc Emmelmann (Fraunhofer FOKUS) 1.3. Hitoshi Morioka (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.4. Lee Armstrong (US DoT) 1.5. Ping Fang (Huawei) 1.6. Jing-Rong Hsieh (HTC) 1.7. Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories) 1.8. Lei Wang (InerDigital) 1.9. Giwon Park (LG) 1.10. Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) 1.11. Shoichi Kitazawa (ATR) 1.12. Lin Cai (Huawei) 1.13. Mike Lin (ITRI) 1.14. Carl Kain (Noblis) 1.15. George Cherian (Qualcomm) 1.16. Juho Pirskanen (Renesus Mobile) 1.17. Christopher Williams (Ericsson) 1.18. Hiroki Nakano (Trans New Technology) 2. Chair called the meeting to order at 10:03. 3. Agenda: 11-13/0411r1. 4. Chair requested to review teleconference minutes (11-13/0412r0). 5. D0.5 Comment Collection (Hiroshi Mano) 5.1. Started Apr. 13th 23:59ET. 5.2. Close May 3rd 23:59ET. 5.3. Not affect voting right. 5.4. Comments must be described in plain text. (Marc Emmelmann) 6. Current draft status (Lee Armstrong) 6.1. Please submit comments. 7. STA Optimized Link Setup 11-13/0414r0 (Jarkko Kneckt) 7.1. On slide 6, I think 1) makes sense, but 2) could introduce additional delay, which does not align with 11ai. (Lei Wang) 7.2. PS is conflicting with TGai requirements. (Lin Cai) 7.3. Is PS required in pre-association state? (Lin Cai) 7.4. Estimate how long to wait initial link setup? (Ping Fang) 7.5. 100ms. (Jarkko) 7.6. Hard to estimate backhaul delay. (Juho Pirskanen) 7.7. Yes, It’s not local issue. It depends on AS load. (George Cherian) 7.8. This topic will be low priority in May meeting. It will be discussed after comment resolutions. (Hiroshi Mano) 7.9. It’s difficult to estimate the delay because of collisions, retries and CSMA on the air. (Hitoshi Morioka) 7.10. Why use GAS? (Hitoshi Morioka) 7.11. No specific preference. Any other frame can be used. (Jarkko Kneckt) 7.12. If the response does not come in time, how to do the STA? (Hitoshi Morioka) 7.13. Continue listening and after specific time window, it gives up link setup. (Jarkko Kneckt) 8. Next teleconference 8.1. Discuss about “Large Object” proposal by Rene Struik. 9. Adjourned at 10:53.

1. Attendee 1.1. Hiroshi Mano (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.2. Marc Emmelmann (Fraunhofer FOKUS) 1.3. Hitoshi Morioka (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.4. Lee Armstrong (US DoT) 1.5. Ping Fang (Huawei) 1.6. Jing-Rong Hsieh (HTC) 1.7. Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories) 1.8. Giwon Park (LG) 1.9. Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) 1.10. Mike Lin (ITRI) 1.11. Rene Struik (Struik Security Consultancy) 1.12. Jae Seung Lee (ETRI) 2. Chair called the meeting to order at 10:03. 3. Agenda: 11-13/0411r2. 3.1. The latest teleconference minutes is 11-13/0412r2. (Hitoshi Morioka) 4. Chair requested to review teleconference minutes (11-13/0412r2). 5. FILS Handling of Large Objects, FILS Piggy-Backing 11-13/0201r6 (Rene Struik) 5.1. Discuss in May meeting. (Hiroshi Mano) 5.2. The author asked the members, “Should we have no flexibility or flexibility?” 6. Comment Collection 6.1. Deadline: May 3rd (Friday) 23:59ET 7. Adjourned at 10:57.

Tuesday May 7, 2013 10:00ET

1. Attendee 1.1. Hiroshi Mano (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.2. Marc Emmelmann (Fraunhofer FOKUS) 1.3. Hitoshi Morioka (Allied Telesis R&D Center) 1.4. Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories) 1.5. Giwon Park (LG) 1.6. Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) 1.7. Mike Lin (ITRI) 1.8. Rene Struik (Struik Security Consultancy) 1.9. George Cherian (Qualcomm) 1.10. Lei Wang (InterDigital) 2. Chair called the meeting to order at 10:02. 3. Agenda: 11-13/0411r3. 4. Chair requested to review teleconference minutes (11-13/0412r3). 5. Comment Collection Status Report (Marc Emmelmann) 5.1. 2,900 comments are received at the point of the original closure, May 3rd 23:59ET. 5.2. Submissions should address CID. 5.3. CC is still open until May 7th 23:59ET. (Hiroshi Mano) 6. Submission List 11-13/0483r0 (Hiroshi Mano) 6.1. If time allows, I’d like to present about GTK transport. (Hitoshi Morioka) 6.2. I’ll upload a document 484 about FILS operation later. (George Cherian) 6.3. Submissions should be uploaded before Saturday. (Hiroshi Mano) 7. Adjourned at 10:21.

Submission page 5Hitoshi Morioka, Allied Telesis R&D Center