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H.R. 1384, Medicare for All Act of 2019 Hearing Committee H.R. 1384, MEDICARE FOR ALL ACT OF 2019 HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON RULES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION TUESDAY, APRIL 30, 2019 Available via http://govinfo.gov Printed for the use of the Committee on Rules U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 36–400 WASHINGTON : 2019 VerDate Sep 11 2014 02:10 Aug 01, 2019 Jkt 036400 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 E:\HR\OC\A400.XXX A400 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HEARING E:\Seals\Congress.#13 COMMITTEE ON RULES JAMES P. MCGOVERN, Massachusetts, Chairman ALCEE L. HASTINGS, Florida, TOM COLE, Oklahoma, Vice Chair Ranking Republican NORMA J. TORRES, California ROB WOODALL, Georgia ED PERLMUTTER, Colorado MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland DEBBIE LESKO, Arizona MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania JOSEPH D. MORELLE, New York DONNA E. SHALALA, Florida MARK DESAULNIER, California DON SISSON, Staff Director KELLY DIXON, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET PROCESS ALCEE L. HASTINGS, Florida, Chairman JOSEPH D. MORELLE, New York, ROB WOODALL, Georgia, Vice Chair Ranking Republican MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas DONNA E. SHALALA, Florida JAMES P. MCGOVERN, Massachusetts SUBCOMMITTEE ON RULES AND ORGANIZATION OF THE HOUSE NORMA J. TORRES, California, Chair ED PERLMUTTER, Colorado, DEBBIE LESKO, Arizona, Vice Chair Ranking Republican MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania ROB WOODALL, Georgia JOSEPH D. MORELLE, New York JAMES P. MCGOVERN, Massachusetts SUBCOMMITTEE ON EXPEDITED PROCEDURES JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland, Chair DONNA E. SHALALA, Florida, MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas, Vice Chair Ranking Republican NORMA J. TORRES, California DEBBIE LESKO, Arizona MARK DESAULNIER, California JAMES P. MCGOVERN, Massachusetts (II) VerDate Sep 11 2014 02:10 Aug 01, 2019 Jkt 036400 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 E:\HR\OC\A400.XXX A400 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HEARING C O N T E N T S April 30, 2019 Opening Statements: Page Hon. James P. McGovern, a Representative in Congress from the State of Massachusetts and Chair of the Committee on Rules ........................... 2 Hon. Tom Cole, a Representative in Congress from the State of Oklahoma and Ranking Member of the Committee on Rules ..................................... 4 Witness Testimony: Mr. Ady Barkan, Founder, Be A Hero Organization ..................................... 7 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 10 Dr. Charles Blahous, J. Fish and Lillian F. Smith Chair and Senior Research Strategist, Mercatus Center ........................................................ 14 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 17 Dr. Dean Baker, Senior Economist, Center for Economic and Policy Re- search ............................................................................................................. 24 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 27 Ms. Grace-Marie Turner, President, Galen Institute .................................... 39 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 41 Dr. Sara Collins, Vice President for Health Care Coverage and Access, The Commonwealth Fund ............................................................................ 57 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 59 Dr. Doris Browne, Immediate Past-President, National Medical Associa- tion ................................................................................................................. 103 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 106 Dr. Farzon Nahvi, Emergency Room Physician ............................................. 109 Prepared Statement .................................................................................. 112 Questions and Additional Testimony: Hon. James P. McGovern, a Representative in Congress from the State of Massachusetts and Chair of the Committee on Rules ........................... 114 Hon. Tom Cole, a Representative in Congress from the State of Oklahoma and Ranking Member of the Committee on Rules ..................................... 119 Hon. Ed Perlmutter, a Representative in Congress from the State of Colorado ......................................................................................................... 124 Hon. Rob Woodall, a Representative in Congress from the State of Geor- gia ................................................................................................................... 128 Hon. Jamie Raskin, a Representative in Congress from the State of Maryland ....................................................................................................... 135 Hon. Michael C. Burgess, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas .......................................................................................................... 141 Hon. Mary Gay Scanlon, a Representative in Congress from the State of Pennsylvania ............................................................................................. 148 Hon. Norma Torres, a Representative in Congress from the State of California, Prepared Statement ................................................................... 154 Hon. Debbie Lesko, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ari- zona ................................................................................................................ 155 Hon. Joseph D. Morelle, a Representative in Congress from the State of New York ................................................................................................... 161 Hon. Donna E. Shalala, a Representative in Congress from the State of Florida ....................................................................................................... 170 Hon. Mark DeSaulnier, a Representative in Congress from the State of California ................................................................................................... 179 Additional Material Submitted for the Record: Statement from National Nurses United dated April 30, 2019 .................... 187 Statement from Diane Archer, President, JustCareUSA.org dated April 30, 2019 .......................................................................................................... 220 (III) VerDate Sep 11 2014 02:10 Aug 01, 2019 Jkt 036400 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 E:\HR\OC\A400.XXX A400 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HEARING IV Page Additional Material Submitted for the Record—Continued Letter from Mayra E. Alvarez MHA, President, The Children’s Partner- ship dated April 29, 2019 ............................................................................. 227 Statement from the American Hospital Association dated April 30, 2019 .. 230 Statement from Eagan Kemp, Health Care Policy Advocate, Public Cit- izen, dated April 30, 2019 ............................................................................ 234 Article by Erica Werner, Washington Post, entitled ‘‘House GOP plan would cut Medicare, Medicaid to balance budget’’ dated June 19, 2018 .. 244 Article by Alex Cooke, CBC News, entitled ‘‘ ’This is the face of the health-care crisis’: Woman issues plea to N.S. premier’’ dated April 25, 2019 .......................................................................................................... 246 Letter from Nathan Rodke, Washington Community Action Network dated April 29, 2019 ..................................................................................... 253 Letter from Mark Dudzic, National Coordinator, the Labor Campaign for Single-Payer dated April 26, 2019 ......................................................... 254 Letter from Nancy J. Altman, President, and Alex Lawson, Executive Director, Social Security Works dated April 29, 2019 ............................... 255 Letter from Dr. John Aldis dated April 22, 2019 ........................................... 257 Statement from Rebecca Wood dated April 30, 2019 .................................... 258 Letter from the Partnership for Employer Sponsored Coverage dated April 30, 2019 ................................................................................................ 261 Opinion Editorial by Enrique Padron, the New York Post, entitled ‘‘Hey, Democrats: Here’s the price I paid for your socialist dream’’ dated April 17, 2019 ................................................................................................ 264 Paper from Dr. Giles Birchley, Centre for Ethics in Medicine, Bristol Medical School: Population Health Sciences, University of Bristol enti- tled ‘‘Charlie Gard and the weight of parental rights to seek experi- mental treatment’’ dated May 17, 2018 ...................................................... 268 Curriculum Vitae and Truth in Testimony Forms for Witnesses Testifying Before the Committee ................................................................................... 273 VerDate Sep 11 2014 02:10 Aug 01, 2019 Jkt 036400 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 E:\HR\OC\A400.XXX A400 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HEARING ORIGINAL JURISDICTION HEARING ON H.R. 1384, MEDICARE FOR ALL ACT OF 2019 TUESDAY, APRIL 30, 2019 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON RULES, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:05 a.m., in Room H– 313, The Capitol, Hon. James
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