Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 1 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Page 1 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY NATIONAL BIO AND AGRO-DEFENSE FACILITY DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT (NBAF DRAFT EIS) DATE: JULY 31, 2008 1:30 p.m. KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY STUDENT UNION-FORUM HALL MANHATTAN, KANSAS 66502 Catherine Coghill, Moderator PANEL MEMBERS: Mr. James Johnson, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security Dr. Steven M. Kappes, U.S. Dept. of Agriculture Mr. Charles Pergler, Tetra Tech, Inc. Reported by: Donna M. Lytle, CSR, RPR, CRR OWENS, BRAKE & ASSOCIATES 234 North 7th Street, Suite E Salina, Kansas 67401 2-3207 December 2008 Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 2 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Page 2 1 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY 2 3 NATIONAL BIO AND AGRO-DEFENSE FACILITY 4 DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT 5 (NBAF DRAFT EIS) 6 INDEX PAGE 7 8 WELCOME: PAGE LINE Mr. Johnson 4 1 9 Moderator Coghill 5 20 10 11 PRESENTATIONS: Mr. Johnson 8 20 12 Dr. Kappes 13 15 Mr. Pergler 17 5 13 14 QUESTION & ANSWER SESSION: Ron Trewyn 29 23 15 John Simmons 32 12 Sandy Cravens 33 12 16 Tom Thornton 35 20 Unidentified Speaker 36 24 17 Unidentified Speaker 39 17 Unidentified Speaker 40 21 18 19 FORMAL COMMENT SESSION: PAGE LINE 20 Adrian Polansky 44 12 Bill Sanford 47 3 21 George Teagarden 50 8 Jennifer Brandt 52 20 22 Governor Kathleen Sebelius 55 23 Eric Alsup 59 19 23 Bob Walker 61 23 Reggie Robinson 64 22 24 Tom Thornton 68 1 Ron Trewyn 70 25 25 Kathleen Huttmann 73 22 2-3208 December 2008 Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 3 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Page 3 1 Bob Marcusse 76 21 Tracy Taylor 79 12 2 Melvin Neufeld 82 4 Myron Calhoun 84 24 3 Judy Wagner 88 11 Steve Henry 90 7 4 Sandy Cravens 92 22 Bob Rowland 95 20 5 Dennis McKinney 97 3 Steve Warren 100 1 6 Dusti Fritz 102 25 Senator Stephen Morris 105 7 7 Jeff Levin 108 4 Don Gudenkauf 109 23 8 Donn Teske 110 25 Paul Irvine 113 11 9 Tracy Brunner 116 7 John Hook 118 25 10 Franklin Spikes 119 16 Carroll Lange 122 13 11 Lydia Peele 122 25 Scott Rusk 125 8 12 Sydney Carlin 126 21 Brandy Carter 129 17 13 Tom Hawk 132 4 Steven Anderson 135 7 14 Gary Anderson 137 19 Marty Vanier 140 8 15 Dale Askey 142 25 Bruce Snead 144 10 16 Dave MacFarland 146 15 Colonel Eric Peck 149 16 17 18 CERTIFICATE OF CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER 152 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2-3209 December 2008 Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 4 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Page 4 1 MR. JOHNSON: We're going to go ahead 2 and get started. We have a full afternoon and 3 evening. 4 Welcome to the Kansas public meeting for 5 the National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility Draft 6 Environmental Impact Statement, otherwise known as 7 the NBAF EIS. 8 I'm Jamie Johnson, the Director of Office 9 of National Labs, with the Department of Homeland 10 Security, and serving as the program manager for 11 the National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility. 12 We're here today to present the results 13 of a Draft Environmental Impact Analysis conducted 14 by our EIS team. 15 We are also here today to listen to your 16 comments. I hope you had a chance to visit our 17 posters and ask questions of our subject matter 18 experts who are in attendance today. 19 DHS announced its intention to prepare an 20 EIS to evaluate siting alternatives for the 21 proposed NBAF on July 31st, 2007. A 60 day public 22 comment period followed which comments were 23 collected and issues identified. 24 During the scoping process, more than 25 1,350 individuals attended eight public meetings 2-3210 December 2008 Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 5 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Page 29 1 mechanisms listed here in the slide as long as we 2 receive them by August 25th. Thank you. 3 MODERATOR COGHILL: Thank you, Jamie. 4 At this point in time, we are ready to start the 5 question and answer period. This is a 20 minute 6 period. 7 Again, I want to reiterate that this is 8 all on the record, this entire meeting, and the 9 questions that you have, if you have any, need to 10 pertain specifically to the presentation that was 11 given, so if you need anymore information that you 12 feel wasn't clarified in the presentation, now's 13 your opportunity to ask that. We're also asking, 14 again as a reminder, that each person who'd like 15 to ask a question, that you just ask one in order 16 to accommodate the other folks in the room who may 17 have a question. 18 So at this point in time what I'd like to 19 do, if anyone does have a question, please come to 20 the microphone, state your name if you'd like and 21 your organization and face the panel, of course, 22 so we all can hear you very clearly. 23 MR. TREWYN: Ron Trewyn, K-State. 24 Dr. Kappes mentioned the forthcoming FMD vaccine 25 today but he expanded on that last week in 2-3211 December 2008 Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 6 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Comment No: 1 Issue Code: 2.0 Page 30 DHS notes the commentor's concern regarding the siting, construction and operation of the NBAF at the Manhattan Campus Site Alternative. Section 3.14 and Appendix E of the NBAF EIS investigate 1 Washington suggesting it would be likely available the chances of a variety of accidents that could occur and consequences of thoseaccidents 2 and on the market by 2010, something like that. Accidents could occur in the form of procedural violations (operational accidents), natural phenomena accidents, external events, and intentional acts. Although some accidents are more likely to occur 3 Since there has been some anxiety about than others (e.g., safety protocol not being followed), the chances of an accidental release are low. 4 FMD on the mainland, I would like to ask that he The specific objective of the hazard identification, accident analysis, and risk assessment is to identify 5 make additional comments on this potential game the likelihood and consequences from accidents or intentional subversive acts. In addition to identifying the potential for or likelihood of the scenarios leading to adverse consequences, this 6 changer, and how it could mitigate the FMD analysis provides support for the identification of specific engineering and administrative controls to 7 concerns. either prevent a pathogen release or mitigate the consequences of such a release. The risk of an accidental release of a pathogen is extremely low. 8 Also I would ask how this vaccine will be 1| 2.0 9 factored into the EIS, and the potential 10 consequences of a release. Thank you. 11 DR. KAPPES: Thank you for the 12 question. ARS has done the initial research in 13 identifying a vaccine platform that allows us to 14 take part of the Foot and Mouth Disease genetic 15 material and make a vaccine out of this, and DHS 16 has worked with us and is going through the 17 further development with a company by the name of 18 GenVac, who is currently in the process of doing 19 that work under contract from DHS, and the results 20 are very promising. 21 We're also using the same vector to make 22 vaccines for all seven serial types of Foot and 23 Mouth Disease, and you are correct, that with 24 these promising early results, we hope to have 25 some products available to APHIS by about the time 2-3212 December 2008 Chapter 2 - Comment Documents NBAF Final Environmental Impact Statement July 31, 2008, Manhattan, KS, Manhattan Afternoon Page 7 of 128 NBAF EIS SCOPING MEETING JULY 31, 2008 (afternoon) KSU MANHATTAN, KANSAS Page 31 1 of 2010, so we're quite encouraged with that. 2 ARS is also doing work on biotherapeutics 3 that increases the efficacy of that vaccine, so 4 the two aspects there is timing and then also 5 being able to produce this vaccine in the United 6 States because it is not an infectious particle, 7 and how that will be used, I'll turn that over to 8 my USDA colleague, Bill White. 9 DR. WHITE: Thank you, Steve. Thank 10 you, sir. Right now, the USDA APHIS at Plum 11 Island, we have the North American Foot and Mouth 12 Disease Vaccine Bank, and this is a stored antigen 13 bank which has the seven different serotypes and a 14 number of subtypes.