Printed (by Authority) by CORRIE Ltd., 48 Bucks Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF TYNWALD COURT Douglas, Wednesday, 17th February 1999 at 10.30 a.m. Present: Harbours (Isle of Man) Act 1961 - The President of Tynwald (the Hon Sir Charles Harbour Dues (Fishing Vessels and Tugs) Kerruish OBE LLD (he) CP). In the Council: The Lord Regulations 1999 [SD No 19/99] Bishop (the Rt Rev Noel Debroy Jones), the Harbour Dues (Pleasure Vessels and House Boats) Attorney-General (Mr W J H Corlett), Hon C M Christian, Regulations 1999 [SDNo 20/99] Messrs E A Crowe, D F K Delaney, E G Lowey, Hon E J Mann, Messrs J N Radcliffe and G H Waft, with Inland Fisheries Act 1976 - Mr T A Bawden, Clerk of the Council. Inland Fisheries (Duties) Regulations 1998 [SDNo 708/98] In the Keys: The Speaker (the Hon N Q Cringle) Inland Fisheries (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (Rushen); Mr L I Singer and Hon A R Bell (Ramsey); [SDNo 707/98] Hon R E Quine OBE (Ayre); Mr J D Q Cannan (Michael); Hon H Hannan (Peel); Mr W A Gilbey (Glenfaba); Merchant Shipping Act 1985 - Mr S C Rodan (Garff); Hon D North (Middle); Merchant Shipping Act 1995 (Application) Order Mr P Karran, Hon R K Corkill and Mr G T Cannell 1999 [SD No 23/99] (Onchan); Mr J R Houghton and R W Henderson (Douglas North); Hon D C Cretney and Mr A C Duggan Mineral Workings (Offshore Installations) (Isle of Man) (Douglas South); Mr R P Braidwood and Mrs B J Cannell (Douglas East); Messrs J P Shimmin and A F Downie Act 1974- (Douglas West); Hon J A Brown (Castletown); Offshore Installations (Reporting of Injuries, Hon D J Gelling (Malew and Santon); Sir Miles Walker Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences) Regulations CBE LLD (he) and Mrs P M Crowe (Rushen); with 1999 [SD No 25/99] Prof T StJ N Bates, Clerk of Tynwald. Road Traffic Act 1985 - Driving Licences (Amendment) Regulations 1999 The Lord Bishop took the prayers. [SD No 36/99] Apologies for Absence Customs and Excise Act 1993 - Customs and Excise Acts (Application) The President: Hon. members, this morning we have (Amendment) Order 1999 [SD No 10/99] apologies for absence from the hon. member of the Council, Mr Kniveton, who is off the Island having a medical check- Financial Supervision Act 1988 - up. Financial Supervision (Gateways) Order 1999 [SD No 8/99] Procedural Social Security Act 1982 - Social Security Legislation (Application) Order The President: Now, turning to order paper no. 1, with 1999 [SD No 26/99] the Court’s agreement item 3 will be taken immediately Social Security (Application) (No. 2) Order 1999 after lunch; item 16 will not be moved. [SDNo 27/99] Pension Schemes Act 1995 - Papers Laid before the Court Pension Schemes Legislation (Application) Order 1999 [SD No 28/99] The President: Now, I call upon the learned Clerk to lay papers. Supplementary Benefits Act 1976 - Supplementary Benefit (Resources) Amendment The Clerk: I lay before the Court: Regulations 1999 [SD No 30/99] Apologies for Absence Procedural Papers Laid before the Court T494 TYNWALD COURT, WEDNESDAY, 17th FEBRUARY 1999 Licensing Act 1995 - Mr Crowe: Thank you, Mr President. I beg leave to Drinking in Public Places (Designated Places) (Peel) ask the Chief Minister: Order 1999 [SD No 21/99] On 9th July 1998 you announced the establishment Shops Act 1985 - of a Council of Ministers subcommittee and a strategy team Shops Act (Temporary Exemption) Order 1999 [SD in order to introduce a five-year anti-drugs strategy for No 18/99] the Isle of Man; has the committee concluded its deliberations, and when do you propose to provide Tynwald Student Awards Scheme - with details of the strategy? Student Awards Scheme 1999 [GC No 38/98] The President: The Chief Minister to reply. Pension Supplement Scheme - Pension Supplement Scheme 1999 [GC No 2/99] Mr Gelling: Yes, Mr President, I can confirm that the strategy committee of the Council of Ministers have agreed Retirement Pension (Premium) Scheme - a final form of the five-year strategy and, pending the Retirement Pension (Premium) Scheme 1999 [GC concurrence of Treasury, this will indeed be submitted to No 3/99] the March sitting of this Court, sir. Reports - Mr Crowe: Mr President, I would just like to thank the Council of Ministers’ Report on the First Phase Chief Minister for his reply and to look forward to the Feasibility Study into the Establishment of a TT Museum strategy document and the debate in the March Tynwald. Final Report of the Select Committee of Tynwald Thank you. on a Minimum Wage with Memorandum of Dissent Interim Report of the Select Committee of Tynwald on the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company Residence Bill - Introduction - Estimated Population - Customs and Excise Management Act 1986 - Excise Duty Point (External and Internal Question by Mr Delaney Community Transit Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 [SDNo 9/99] The President: Item 2, the hon. member of the Council, Mr Delaney. Currency Act 1992 - Currency (Platina Coins) Order 1999 [SD No 706/ Mr Delaney: I beg leave to ask the Chief Minister: 98] (1) When was a Residency Bill first proposed as United Nations - government policy; Iraq and Kuwait (United Nations Sanctions) (Amendment) Order 1998 [SI 1998 No 3163] (2) when do you expect the Bill to be introduced; and Appointed Day Orders - (3) what is the estimated population of the Isle of Man Road Traffic Act 1999 (Appointed Day) Order 1999 in the year 2000? [SD No 34/99] Road Traffic (Amendment) Act 1996 (Appointed The President: The Chief Minister to reply. Day) (No.l) Order 1999 [SD No 32/99] Mr Gelling: Mr President, to the first part of the Report - question, the Residence Bill was first proposed as Thirty-first Report of the Criminal Injuries government policy in the 1990 Policy Report. Compensation Tribunal for the year ended 31st A revised version of the original Residence Bill is March 1998. included in the legislative programme for 1998-99. However, this Bill has been the subject of a recent European Communities - consultation exercise and, following the comments European Communities Instruments circulated received in response, a substantive review of the draft Bill during November 1998 [GC No 1/99] and is currently being undertaken, and I am advised that it is December 1998 [GC No 4/99] now unlikely that this will be completed in time to allow the Bill to be introduced in this legislative session. And the third part of the question: in regard to the Anti-Drugs Strategy - Progress of estimated population of the Isle of Man in the year 2000,1 Subcommittee - Question by Mr Crowe can advise that, based on the central planning assumptions, this is projected as 74,114. The President: Item 2, questions, I call upon the hon. member of the Council, Mr Crowe, to ask the question Mr Delaney: Mr President, I thank the Chief Minister standing in his name. for answering those parts (1), (2) and (3) of the question. Anti-Drugs Strategy - Progress of Subcommittee - Question by Mr Crowe Residence Bill - Introduction - Estimated Population - Question by Mr Delaney TYNWALD COURT, WEDNESDAY, 17th FEBRUARY 1999 T495 Could I ask the following supplementaries? Although it reflection, but I can assure the hon. member, at that time, was 1990 when we first saw light of this proposition to that I said that it would be under 70,000 and it was under bring a Residency Bill in, a decade ago I asked a question 70,000, because there are an awful lot of numbers on GP in this hon. Court in reference to this and I was informed registers of people who either have moved off the Island by your predecessor that, subject to the qualifications from and their records have not been forwarded and there are a Europe - and I am sure, looking at the previous Chief lot of transactions between GPs. So the census did in fact Minister, he will agree with me - that it would be ratify the figure at that time, and I can only say to hon. introduced. Does the Chief Minister think it acceptable, members, on the best available figures that we have - people on such an important item as the residency of this Island, take into consideration just about everything from the which will affect all those on the Island at this moment, registers of GPs to the number of bottles of milk and the that 10 years is the length of time it has taken to introduce connections of telephones; you name it - the figure we such an important Bill? Secondly, what is the estimated have got is just over 74,000, sir. population of the Isle of Man? I asked, and you answered, as is laid down in the 1976 report, 74,000. Bearing the The Speaker: Mr President, bearing in mind that a figures in mind from the social security and work permits, Tynwald committee established a figure of 75,000 by the would the Chief Minister not agree with me that the year 2000, does the Chief Minister intend to set a further population is now already closer, bearing in mind some target figure for, say, 2010? 30 per cent of the people are now on work permits in the Isle of Man and therefore could not have been here more Mr Delaney: A good question. than five years to qualify, to 80,000 than the 74,000 projected for next year? Mr Gelling: Mr President, the government has not identified an optimum population figure.