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[No. 14, Monday, June 27, igjj/Asadha 6, 1899 (Saka)

^ , . Co l u mn s Oral Answers to Questions :

♦Starred Questions Nos. 204, 206 and 208 to 211 • • • j __29

Short Notice Question No. 6 ...... 30______33

Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 205, 207 and 212 to 223 • • 33__51

Unstarred Questions Nos. 1804 to 1924, 1926 to 1929, 1931, 1932, 1934. I935> 1937 to 1940 and 1942 to 1962 • 51—202 Papers laid on the Table • .... 203_20^

Assent to Bill • • • 205

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance— Lock out in the Indian Express and Financial Express,New Delhi 206—29

Election to Committees * 229—34 (i) Advisory Council of Delhi Development Authority • • 229

(ii) Indian Council of Agricultural Research • • 230

(iii) All India Council for Technical Education • • • 230-31

(iv) Council of the Indian Institute of Sciences, Bangalore • 231

(v) General Council of Indian School of Alines, Dhanbad • • 232

Demands for Grants, 1977-78—

Ministry of Commerce and Ministry of Civil Supplies and C o o p e r a t io n ...... 234—362

Shrimati Parvathi K r i s h n a n ...... 235—41

Shri Pabitra Mohan P r a d h a n ...... 241—46

Shri N. Sreekantan N a i r ...... 255—59

Shri A. C. George • - ...... 260—69

•The sign+marked above the name of a Member indicates that the Question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. Co l u mn s Shri Mahi L a i ...... 269—79

Shri Puma Sinha ...... 279— 84

Shri Padmacharan S a m a n t s i n h a r ...... 284—92

Shri K. Mayathevar ...... 292—97

Shrimati Chandravati ...... 297—303

Shri B. Rachaiah ..... 333—307

Shri Jagdambi Prasad Yadav • • 307— 13

Shri S. G. Murugaiyan • • • 313— 18

Dr. Ramji Singh .... . ^jg—26

Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu • • • 326—33

Shri R. L. P. Verma • . . . . 33^— 35

Shri Mohan Dharia • • • 337—60 DEBATES

i 2 LOK SABHA done in the Western countries parti- cularly in the U.S.A. We have not won any Nobel Prize for the last 30 Monday, June 27, 1917/Asadha 6, years or so. Would the hon. Minister 1899 (Saka) at least inform us what are the inten- tions of the Government in regard to the provision of teaching Qualifications and research facilities? It seems that The Lok Sabha mpt at Eleven of the the pay-scales and recruitment quali- Clock fications of the teaching posts are con- tradicting with each other. [Mr. S p e a k e r in the Chair] DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS DER: Sir, the decision was taken on Relation of Research Experience for the basis of the report of a Committee University Teachers which was headed by Dr. S. N. Sen, formerly Vice-Chancellor of Calcutta *204. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the University. That Committee recom- Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL mended that for the purpose of teach- WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas- ing in Colleges, or Universities, hold- ed to state: ing of Master’s Degree should not be sufficient. There should be some re- (a) whether the stipulation made search qualification or an advanced by the University Grants Commission study qualification. Only then they regarding research experience for will be able to take up classes in col- University teachers is being relaxed; leges and Universities. That is why the Universities after 2nd November (b) if so, whether this will affect 1974, prescribed that alternatives academic standards; and might be provided not only in regard to Ph. Ds. but in other research work (c) if so, Government’s views there- of equal merit. That has been provid- on? ed, Sir.

TEC MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SHRI D. D. DESAI: Js the Minis* SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ter aware that in principle and prac- (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- tice, the difference has widened in DER): (a) to (c). Some people have various Universities, particularly in made a representation that the re- Delhi University, the qualification has quirement of Doctorate degree or re- been brought down to a high Second search work of an equally high stan- Class and Second Class. Now, they dard us a minimum qualification for have again towered the qualification. appointment of teachers in universi- So, what should be done by the Gov- ties should be dispensed with. The ernment especially m view of said matter is being examined. non-availability of University tea- SHRI D. D. DESAI: Sir, recently chers with requisite qualifications? we have waived this qualifications for MR. SPEAKER: What about the the University teachers. Most of the standard of teaching jn tttftartnt .uni- research work done in the world is versities? •022 LS— 1 Oral Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Oral Answers 4

SHRI D. D. DESAI: All these points partial acceptance of the recommenda- should be taken into an overall consi- tions will not do good. deration. I would like the hon. Minis- ter to take the House into confidence MR. SPEAKER: Please do not make and at least let us know what would it a discussion. be the position since this subject is a concurrent subject. I would like to know what he intends to do to im- fa i? : f t m f % f^rtr gfr prove the educational standards and tcFTWH fraffiKT $, see that what he has decided is im- ^ ^'t wfj; fam plemented by Universities. *RT I I ftr$TT ^ SfclFpf f r DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ifT iFrc I ? DER: Sir, I would like to submit that it is true that education is not only DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- a concurrent subject but it has also DER: Sir, in many of the States the been said that so long as the Parlia- scale has been accepted in principle ment does not pass any Act in that but actually in placement has not particular behalf, the State Acts will taken place. We are taking up this prevail. Therefore, large part of edu- matter with the respective State Gov- cation is being governed by State Acts ernments and as soon as many flf these and we are not directly involved. new State Governments are formed. Even then through the University We will discuss the matter with the Grants Commission, we try to set some concerned Education Ministers. standards and the University Grants Commission sends its recommenda- PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Is tions from time to time even to the the hon. Minister aware of the fact State Governments for the purpose of that standards of university and col- prescribing the minimum qualifica- lege education are deteriorating very tions. For the University lecturers, rapidly in our country, and further, as my hon. Friend wanted to know, that the assessment and marking and the minimum qualification prescribed giving of even research degrees vary is “The Doctor’s degree or research enormously from one university to work of an equally high standard and another, so that some of the degrees consistently good academic record are available very cheaply while some with first or high second class master’s are not available at all because their degree in a relevant subject or an standards are high? Will the hon. equivalent degree of a foreign univer- Minister, moreover, tell us whether sity.” Then there is a provision for the answers he has been giving both relaxation as regards the second mat- to the original and supplementary ter viz., first class or high second class questions relate to the University tea- masters degree. If the Selection chers or college teachers or both? Committee is of the view that the re- Further, will he assure the House that search work of a candidate as evident over and above the research degree cither from his thesis or from his pub- qualification requirement, the Govern- lished work is of a high order, it may ment will also see to it that academic relax the second qualification. experience and teaching experience in SHRI D. D. DESAI: The Sen Com- a reputed university are also consi- mission’s report has been accepted by dered worthwhile for qualifying for many the States. The result has the post of a University or a college been an increase in the salary and professor? remuneration of the teachers. But the DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- other part of Sen Commission’s report DER: I would like to submit to the is still not being implemented. The hon. Member very respectfully Oral Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SA K A ) Oral Answers 6

through you that the question of de- the son of erstwhile Prime Minister terioration in standards is always a Shrimati has substanr matter of opinion and we are not in tial interest, had supplied road rollers « position t0 accept this. Even then, to the D.D.A., Engineering India, Ltd., the University Grants Commission is N.D.M.C. and other Central Govern- also trying its level best to improve ment organisations; if so, the details the standards. So, for college lectu- thereof; rers, the following qualifications have (b) whether any tender was invited been prescribed “first or high second for the purpose and if so, the facts class at master’s degree in a relevant thereof; subject or an equivalent degree of a foreign university or M. Phil, degree (c) whether any inquiry was con- of a recognised university beyond the ducted into the allegations of irregu- master s degree level or published larity in this connection; and work indicating the capacity of a (d) if so, the findings thereof? candidate for independent research.” All these are provided for the pur- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND pose of improvement of the standards. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR SHRI A. E. T. BARROW: What BAKHT): (a) and (b). The informa- steps are taken to compare the degrees tion is being collected and will be of one university with another, when laid on the Table of the Sabha. it is known, as my friend Shri Mava- lankar has pointed out, that there are (c) and (d). The Government of great differences in the standards in India in the Ministry of Home Affairs different universities? has in its notification No. S.O. 375(E), dated the 30th May, 1977 appointed a DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- Commission of Inquiry to enquire, DER: This is also a very delicate inter alia, into all matters pertaining question. Comparison is always generally to the negotiation, conclu- odious. sion and execution of contracts and agreements with the following Maruti MR. SPEAKER: Next question. concerns: —

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I was (i) M/s. Maruti Limited., trying to catch your eye to put a specific question—How many foreign (ii) M/s. Maruti 'Heavy Vehicles countries have de-recognised our de- (Pvt.) Ltd., grees? (iii) ' M/s. Maruti Technical Ser- vice (Pvt.) Ltd. MR. SPEAKER: That is a separate question. I have already passed over (iv) Any other body corporate or to the next question. firm which is in the same group or is under the same management as the companies aforesaid or is inter- Supply of Road Rollers by Maruti connected with one or more of the Heavy Vehicles Ltd. said Companies.

*206. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The Commission will thus enquire Will the Minister of WORKS AND into the transactions with M/s. Maruti HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- Heavy Vehicles (Pvt.) Ltd. including HABILITATION be pleased to state: the transactions relating to supply of road rollers to the Central Govern- (a) whether Maruti Heavy vehicles ment Organisations. The Commission Limited in which Shri Sanjay Gandhi, has been asked to complete its inquiry 7 Oral 'Answers JTCJQNE. 27, 1977 Oral Answers

and report 4ta ,the Central £foysrnment an overdraft from the Punjab Natio- on or befpre 31st December, 1977. nal Bank. A thorough enquiry was instituted by the Works and Housing SHRI JYOTIRMOY BQSU: Sir, 21 .Ministry at that time and the reports d$ys is the usual notice time. But .were placed on the Table of the this time because the session was House. About that, no notice is re- postponed, the notice given was much quired because the matter ^ already more. Still, if they are going to leave on record. Let me the minister say it to the bureaucrats, this sort of re- ‘yes’ or ‘no\ ply is bound to come. Am I to under- stand that the government has less SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: Sir, I resources and limited machinery with agree a specific reply must have been them that they cannot find information given; I am deeply sorry about it. that others have been able to find out? About the rest of his question about I want the minister to confirm my the Works and Housing Ministry, I positive charge that this Maruti Heavy do not have the information right now. Vehicles Ltd., which is Indira Gandhi, Son and Co. Ltd.—that is how I put SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I seek it— your protection in the matter. Why they should get allergic on that side? AN HON. MEMBER; Unlimited. Why Mr. Lakkappa should get allergic. Sir, I seek your protection. When the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Very hon. Minister comes to this House limited. The question is, they had with this sort of replies stating that defrauded and cheated the people of ‘I don’t have the reply’, then we may this country On two counts in this road as well go home and rest. The ques- roller business. You, Sir, were the tion is about a matter where the re- Speaker at that time also between quired information is readily avail- 1967 and 1970. I want the minister to able that in 1968-69 the road rollers confirm whether the Works anc* Hous- were brought by Sanjay Gandhi from ing Ministry earlier before 1970 had UPCC. Actually he was lured to buy .given an advance of Rs. 1J crores to them and he sold them at Rs. 1.25 TJPCC—United Province Commercial lakhs. Corporation headed by Mr. Wahi and whether the money had been recover- I seek your protection, Sir. You ed or not, and whether at the same kindly direct the Minister to come out time they had taken an overdraft from with a reply as to whether the road the Punjab National Bank, which is a rollers were under the financial obli- nationalised bank. They got money gation of his Ministry to the tune of from both ways. The earlier govern- Rs. 1J crores or not and whether it ment had made purchases of road rol- is also a fact that these road rollers lers which Mr. Sanjay Gandhi had were hypothecated to the Punjab Na- bought from the Punjab National Bank tional Bank for a specified period and at Rs. 25,000 a piece___ it is the third time they are doing it. I want a specific r e p l y to this question. MR. SPEAKER: What is your ques- tion? SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: I have already told the hon. Member SERI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I want that I am not in a position to reply to know whether the Works and to this question right now. JSou^ing Ministry earlier before 1970 had given an advance of Rs. 1| crores MR. SPEAKER: He is not m aposi- to UPCC headed by Mr. Wahi, whe- tion to reply. He 'has been saying this tjier £he ,ti¥>ney had fefW* jcecovpred or repeatedly tjiat he has no information^ upt #Qd .whether tfacgr Jted ajjso %aJciwi You may jJ,e*se flit down now. I 9 Oral A iiw ers ASADHIAl 6, 189tiS iA K A ) OnA AnsW&rt i o on my legs. My point i8 that thetG' *tttt wiw, % w ^rtw *wf i f f are1oth«r methods of eliciting informa- tion. If it is not given now, I will V tell you that you should come later o n ‘with the rules. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I want this to go on record that the Minister SHRl KANWARLAL GUPTA; Can is in a position to reply whether an you postpone this question? amount of Rs. l i crores was advanced to UPCC for the supply of roads- rollers. But he said that he is not ; st o t st in a position to reply.

SHRI YADVENTRA DUTT: I want the hon. Minister to inform us his irtf rr*rr *nr Tft t fo ^r^=qr ^rr^ar difficulty in collecting the information as to by what time he will be in a ^5FTr fTft ^rr^ar $ i position to give us the required in- formation.

Jrft irR^rft | ^ f^rart it SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: First | ?fk frr^jrTcr Jf sft ^TfT |— of all, it is very cruel to say that I am trying to keep back the informa- 5ftoTT^0jfto?fto % *Tr*frT TT 3Tf-£o^ tion. I have got the least intention to ^ tk tft T t f - f r ^ 3>r srrtT *rrefa do so. I have said in my written re- ply to the hon. Members that as soon ^fr fc*TT, *T •T3T ^

«ft w m : *n° <^r° sft° *ft° SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: It has % grt 3r srarr? fa n ^tt *Nit to be collected from a number of de- partments. (Interruptions) fa-frsft -3* % f'FTfr^r f ® JTft ^r^ft t I MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Bosu, please sit down. Here is a specific question raised by the other hon. Member. He is supporting you. He has asked a =rr s t r I— srt f^ rr ^ specific question viz. When the Minis- =pt ^Tr far srfr«r fc*n ter is going to supply, it and how much time he would need. 11 wfrawT* ^crf?^r i SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: The MR. SPEAKER: If there is no difficulty is only that there are many 4 answer to this question, why are you departments involved. I am trying to putting supplementaries? That is why get the information from as many of I said there are other methods of them as possible. I will do it very eliciting the information. soon.

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MR. SPEAKER: What is the point vrfw % H^idi viHTfft ^lr in asking supplementaries? There is ^ ^ j w n vetA no point in wasting time. The same standard reply will come, viz. that he vrfc vt ift gfaar ^ $ ? will get the information. We can at least get a reply in respect of the next THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- question. The hon. Member has speci- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI fically asked the Minister how much SURJIT SlNGiH BARN AL A ): (a) and time he would n eed . The Minister has (b): A statement is placed on the said, “very soon” I am not going to Table of the Sabha. allow any further question. Statement SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will (a) A few communications have the hon. Minister circulate the infor- been received from the Hon’ble mation to the Members within ten Member complaining about certain days? defects in the power tiller which he SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT; We will had purchased. The matter was taken circulate it to the Members. up with the manufacturers who have since reported in May 1977 that neces- sary action was being taken by them sft 3TWl? £ to remove the defects. 7, eft ^T'TT ft ^ I (b) Government have not received general complaints about the specific MR. SPEAKER; I will consider. defects mentioned by the Hon’ble Now question 208. Member, but since power tiller are rather new on the Indian agricultural qrarc fz m scene and have been adopted on a very small scale yet, the problems of spare parts and inadequate after *208. srcrrc : sale scrvico are expected to be SRTT $ fa s flT ^ overcome gradually. Power tiller currently in production in India are upto 12 HP, and are not of 14 HP. (sp) ^TT HdJrm % *TTOTT ^ sft snra are* : t f^ w r tfk ^rnccfY^r frfa vjft % zr?r 3t f pt t ^rrfrTT f *pn irat sft ^rfw^ v t ^ srnr % fat* ^ zr?j | fa t i t ?: f^ran^nRTTT^Tt ir art fafrrer ^TPrfw n rr ;sn% t 5TTT SRTt? ^TT TT3T f^PC w rw r ttt c % ^ft ®r^

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MR. SPEAKER: Unfortunately, the f^rqT I +R+T7 % f=T*rFT ^ Question Hour is becoming an hour f^zzr frwt | w*r t I almost of a minor debate. s n q q ^ T tt SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: ^ I I There are 6 different concerns manu- facturing the tillers. They all start- ed with imports from Japan, because sft f%T fa? Japan is the country where tillers are srr^t^r qr^'d in large circulation. There are about 2.50 million tillers in Japan. There ^ sntfv sfr, w qfr rrj^ri is one indigenous Krishi (India) Ltd. t o t t srh: grrc qw qrr f w r at Hyderabad; and there are 5 ohers which are iiY collaboration with the w w qrt foqT ^nrr | Japanese firms. So, we are producing 3T? fa*: ^ ^ tillers which have air-cooled engines. srrt *r ft * q^cpfr =fft ftraT fo We have not received any serious complaints regarding the air-cooled w p t *r sfar ^rnfV WTTT | engines. Some of the power tiller % s th t ?t pft srrsr qft s t ^ tt fe n | manufacturers prefer air-cooled en- STR 3T^7 Tft I | gines due to their low weight and low cost. There is no proof that qfr ^ir ftq ii fw r | im R water-cooled engines are more desir- Tff | ?nn: ^ at t able or durable as compared to well- designed air-cooled engines. In fact, air-cooled engines are now being used by some of the tractor manufacturer ,1 will again take up the matter with also. Regarding prices, when origi- the firm and get the machines checked nally these tillers were imported, up. the price range was Rs. 4,000 to 7.000. Subsequntly, when we started producing them in the country, the STCTI* UTK^ : $m x prices have risen from Rs. 12,000 to ^ jf 5rrq% w sft% 22.000. The reason are increase in the | ? SIT^T 4 -5 f3TR % price of raw materials, increase in the import duty on tiller packs which is %q>T 55T ?jr I % 1 2 ^ 22 f 5TIT about 40 per cent, Central sales-tax nrft 25 ^rr^rsc of four pe» cent and State sales-tax, which ranges from 6 to 9 per cent. #3?rr t i qr^r fe n : «ft These have raised the prices. fsFTT I *rk 15 Oral Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Oral Answers x6

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SHRI A. C. GEORGE: The hon. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: In Minister in his earlier reply has order to reduce the price of tillers pointed out that there are six major in the interests of agriculturists, is manufacturers of power tillers. Is he the Government willing to reduce the aware that the Kerala Agro-Indus- sales tax? *ries Corporation, a public sector un- dertaking, is manufacturing excellent SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: power tillers with the collaboration of For the time being it is not under the Japanese firm of Kubota, and that consideration. they have excellent market acceptance because of low price and good per- *ftmr5Tija*r: *tt^3Tt*tf ?fttf formance? But when this corporation •*fl§Nl I fa> 3ft ?Tf ^3TR f o r t w | far ?t pt % camc up for expansion of its capacity, there were innumerable difficulties % ¥ *T ^ c q rft ^ft f*T<3T *TOT W t ? *t put in its way by the Agricultural snrrc s£t tfk finwra wnr % Tra ^ Ministry which says that the firm is ?nf | ? r«HK % *nf ff*ft i over-capacitated. So, will the hon. Minister be kind enough to give g°°d 5TPT ^ ld ®Pt i ’Tft ?T*TSft co-operation at least in its expasion far SR»TT Wt fafcpft fvi °r> i -m n H T T % proposal and other facilities required *trt mi. | *w % ^ n srrr <$^0 by it? ^FT far SIN+t Wt'Tft % SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: firatFff s*t ^ 1 ? The demand for power tiller* is de- t ruav -* creasing, not increasing. TVe have only about 13,000 in the whae country qpfW wl€t ft^ 3TI% % V R ”T 'TT^T where several million igricultural ^rfqre* aft wt? ff irtr ** workers are working. 17 Oral Answers A S A D H A 0, 1899 (&AKA) Oral Answers

Regarding this firm, it is producing wjftar wrm r: ?fr one power tiller in Kerala called Kubota, Their capacity utilisation 'TWt fd*n<. f*T ^ tftw VT 7^ f «RT^ has been on the decrease because there ^ I far 3 . g f PH MKT % hast not been any increase of demand. We have not been able to allow them *ftfa ^ sfft: f r fa*n*r to increase. ^rft? *r% srt% ^t ?Ftftrcr ^ srr Tft | I zr^T?f%€t SHRI A. C. GEORGE: I seek your protection. There is a factual error it qvmtor? ft t, *rh: in this. That may be the total picture, ^Rft TK f t % f r ^tf9T?r but this particular company has come ^t 5TT Tft | f^ffT «nTT% rrrfa ®te up with an expansion programme. famt * ^rr ft i MR. SPEAKER: He is giving the in- MR. SPEAKER: I have allotted formation that is available with him. maximum lime for the Demands for If there is a factual error, you can Grants of the Ministry of Agriculture. point out, that is all. Whatever information the Minister has got, he has given to you. He will SHRr"SCTRJlT SINGH BARN ALA: be able to give you more information In 1975-76 they produced 547 tillers while discussing the Demands of his and in 1976-77 they produced only Ministry? So, I am not allowing fur- 455. That is why I said so. Till April, ther questions on this. Now, we move 1977 their production is only 34. on to the next question.

SHRI A. C. GEORGE: I only want Regularising: of unapproved colonies a simple answer. Will they give faci- in Delhi lities for expasion? *209. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- sft are* : ^ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI- LITATION be pleased to state: ST'S Spfta' spt f ? ^ f t % t h t (a) whether Government have de- cided to regulate all the unapproved tfteT ftm snm t srfa: colonies in Delhi constructed before June, 1972 and also to provide alter- native accommodation/plots to those % *ft ferr 3TRT I t *tf*T whose houses were demolished/land , f t fr^t ©ret jfrnf % acquired without compensation; Jr «ft ^ «n% 11 ^jfrr (b) if so, whether Government are ^pww*t REHABILITATION (SHRI SIKAN- fv in r DAR BXKHT) : (a) Government have t *9 Oral Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Oral Answers z o

decided to regularise unauthorised areas were regularised and 33 were colonies in Delhi subject to the terms not regularised which were in green and conditions specified. The families areas or non-conforming areas. In which are displaced in the process of 1972, another survey was conducted providing space for roads and other by the MCD and DDA jointly and community facilities are to be re- from that survey, it was found that habilitated. there were 112 colonies in the Muni- cipal Corporation area and 53 in the (b) 390 persons who were occupy- D. D. A. area. In 1974 in accordance ing structures demolished were pro- with the decision which was taken in vided alternative accommodation in the erstwhile Prime Minister’s room, the shape of flats/regular plots/J. J. a lot of demolition was undertaken, plots. particularly of the post-1971 colonies. (c) Does not arise. But anyway, the ad-hoc approach to demolition was stopped and a com- SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Whether mittee under the chairmanship of the Minister is aware that a lot of Shri A. N. Banerjee was formed. The irregularity has crept in the re- Committee submitted its report in gularisation of all the unapproved 1975 and according to the recom- colonies. In answer to an earlier mendations of that Committee, the question, the Minister has given a structures which came up prior to list of 101 unapproved colonies and 15th June, 1972 were regularised. But from that list I find that the colonies in the month of February, 1977 a sort or part of colonies which came into of order was issued that all unauthori- existence between 1962 and 1967 have sed colonies were to be regularised. been left out completely. I can give This is the position about the unau- a number of examples. thorised colonies. MR. SPEAKER: Please ask ques- tion and do not give examples. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: My second question is about the paymenl of SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: The exten- compensation for the demolition of sion of Laxmi Nagar ha? been left houses. Even pucca houses were de- out though it has been included by molished during . I the Delhi Municipal Corporation in want to know from fhe hon. Minister its reso.ution which was passed in howr many such pucca houses were 1966. Whether the Minister is taking demolished during the Emergency any steps to remove this irregularity without paying any compensation and and regularise all the left out parts how many persons affected were given of the colonies or left out colonies. compensation.

SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: The SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: It hon. Member does not seem to be appears to be relating to Mahendra well uptodate about the dates and all Park, Man Enclave and Lakhi Park. that. If he likes, I might give some I can give you the figures about these survey of what has been happening colonies. As you will find from the about regularisation of unauthorised answer itself, the occupants of these colonies. A survey was conducted by colonies were provided alternative the Municipal Corporation in 1966-67 accommodation. But there were also and from that survey, it was found 700 unoccupied structures, 300 plots that there were 204 unauthorised colo- having boundary walls and about nies. Out of that 103 were regularis- 3000 vacant plots for which no com- ed which came up prior to September, pensation was given. 1962. ‘There remained 101 colonies which came up between September, *wr w h ipiT: % 1962 and Janaury, 1967. Out of these, 68 colonies which were in residential f^rr t i962tt*rfrr 30, 35, 21 Oral Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 ( SAKA) Oral Answers

WHiPraf tffa qftft frgfrsftfo 'O r r o w There is a difference between “are be- ing regularised” ~ and “have been ^ f f , «ITT 200 % *Rfa *flT regularised*. |> r ti, srh J?T fW R R 250 % + 0«f SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: Have er#T-mfhnw t i *rnr ^ been regularised. 1962 1 977 f t *PTT, 1 5 *TFT SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: During the f t +J% n SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: If I ^T5fRRT spt TTr^prr^ qTTJT ? v* have understood the question rightly, f^-ir ^ t r ?r> T/r j tt w ^ r I have already announced that all those people who were removed from t, m ir w ^rnf^ift m m ; f t the residential areSs are going to be | ?ft7 3f ?.*?! ft W | ? re-settled back in those very same areas. But as far as th‘o J. J. colony sfV fa*T*?T «T*V : Jf TTP^t ^TfrTT people are concerrned, they are being- removed to development colonies. i,: ' STST srsffa £ ^ I # 3TTR ? ^TTo fj fa ?nft jnwpfnsr fe^tt *r *ft sf t - «ft TPWfo : fewft Sjft srsrft §f srom?^ |, *rf ft ^ | i ?JT^T^rt ^*9 ci ?rr ii s ^ fa r ^rrf W T ?Tft TfT fa ^ .^Rt% % +wlf-wi sr^rft m Tft | i fiI?TWo ^ ’T I *rat VTft^zr % 3TPRT ^Tf?TT ? fa *n3TR *TOt ^ 9T? ft flff ^ff m^ZT. ^TT?f cT^Mt ^FT ^ T cT^ Tfarft ftRRT STR it fsWlfa&M ^ T T f cTT^T^ %, 3TCT ^ftT f^TT ^TT TfTT ^ ^ft f^TrT * f T ?

«ft fa^r frr SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: I think, the hon. Minister is not correct. f=t»Aii ^ fa +I<1 IHl'fl «(i'i ^ Let him check up whether all the un- ^ ft Tfar i authorised colonies have been regu- larised. All the unauthorised colonies «ft gif<»T h t o finaft : irat have not been regularised. TTfl^T % TRT ^t^ fa^RT ^ fa *nq dt> SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: All are faw% f^ n fm r fa% ir% | 55Tk being regularised. vj^+) % farT^

I think, I have already answered it. matesive programme of providing houses to the rural poor, because the Shortage of houses at the eve of Fifth answer says that there are specific Plan agencies doing it? In that case, Gov- ernment might explain what are those *210. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: agencies and what sort of programme Will the Minister of WORKS AND they are undertaking. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION be pleased to state: SHRI* SIKANDAR BAKHT: Speci- (a) what was the total shortage of fically for rural housing a lot is being houses at the eve of the Fifth Plan done and has been done. The agencies in urban areas and in rural areas; are: NBO; (the State Governments have ear-marked some allocation in (b) whether the Hindustan Housing the plan outlay) Housing Boards and Factory Tias helped to overcome the the Improvement Trusts of different shortage during the Fourth Plan and States. so far during the Fifth Plan; and SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: It (c) what scheme Government have is so difficult to get information from formulated in this regard? the hon. Minister. He must be given some prize for avoiding us. I would THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND like to know from him whether this HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND Government has got a massive scheme REHABILITATION (SHRI SIKAN- or at least -a plan all over the country DAR BAKHT): (a) The housing shor- for the rural poor? Regarding hous- tage in the country as estimated at ing shortage in the urban sector, there the beginning of the Fifth Plan wa» are schemes in the States. I would 11.8 million housing units in rural like to know from him whether Gov- areas and 3.8 million housing units in ernment hag any programme to sup- urban areas. port financially those schemes in a big way so that this housing shortage can (b) No, Sir. bo brought down? (c) The main thrust of the pro- gramme in the Fifth Plan is directed SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: I can ♦towards ameliorating the housing give both the figures. In 1961, in the conditions of Ihe backward sections urban areas it was 11.3 million units; of the society. This is sought to bo in 1971—it had increased to 16.1 mil- achieved by taking up construction of lion unit. In the rural areas in 1961, it houses by the various executing agen- was 57.1 million units; in 1971, it had cies for persons belonging to econo- increased to 66.4 million units. The mically weaker sections and low in- housing shortage as on April 1974 was come group under various housing 15.6 million units, out of which 3.8 schemes and programmes and by tak- million units were in the urban areas ing up on a large scale a programme and 11.8 million units in the rural for the provision of house-sites «to areas. The present shortage is 16.7 landless workers in rural areas. million units, out of which 4.7 million units are in the urban areas and 12 SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: In million units in the rural areas. view of the fact that there is a very Rs. 600.92 crore has been included in great shortage of housing especially the plan outlay in the 5th Five Year in the rural sector of our country, I Plan, out of which Rs. 505.50 crore would like to know from the hon. has been allocated to the States and Minister whether the Janata Govern- Rs. 5.00 crore for plantation workers ment would come forward with a which is in the central sector. 25 Oral Am$a«t>s ASAPJJA 6,: tftyB: {SAKA) ,;Qral An&wers 2 6

%*»ff WSW ; "ft w«r vt( n*nr f n # n't *rrvs fo s o tt *r Of f*F ^ *TM ^TT f and they were used in the construc- voLuntary labour, mobilising ail this tion of houses which got destroyed labour, have been able to construct very early. What is the action taken 100 houses per panchayat; they have by the Government in this regard? thus been able to build one lakh houses. Will Government take a cue from this and start a massive scheme SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: There for rural development, particularly in is no question of sub-standard the housing sector? material. The Hindustan Housing Factory was set up in 1949 and it was SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: The - found that the pre-fabricated material suggestion of the hon. Member has it was not sub-standard—was not been noted. found to be suitable for cons- truction. The factory was closed in SHRI SQMNATH CHATTERJEE: 1952. Again it was rstarted in May I ask the hon. Minister to tell us, 1953-54 in collaboration with a private out of the total outlay of Rfl. 609 party. Agfun the venture failed and crores, how much has been allocated in 1955 the Government toQk it over. for rural housing, and out of the Government has been entering into different schemes that are now in different experiments. But unfor- pperation, how many are being ex- tunately it has not yet become work- ecuted by the Central Government and able as far as commercial operation when those schemes are likely to be is concerned. completed?

«ft wrcnft Mif : wnrt *T^tr SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: It is rlr wrk.vnfta £?rf % left to the .States themselves to break up the ‘allocation in the manner they like for rural and urban housing. Out ■2 j Orol Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Oral Answers 28

of the amount of Rs. 600.92 crores, an (b) if so, quantity of quota dis- amount of Rs. 505.56 crores has been tribution, State-wise? left to them. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- As far as the other part is concern- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ed, the Central sector is having a sort SURAJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) of joint effort with them by providing In addition to 0.95 lakh tonnes of free them with knowhow, design, how to sale quota intially released for in- reduce the cost of construction, etc. ternal consumption for June, 1977, The houses to be provided for the, 10,000 tonnes was released on 24th plantation workers come under the May, 1977 and another 15,000 tonnes Central sector and, out of the above on 2nd June, 1977 raising the quota amount, Rs. 5 crores has been reserv- to 1-20 lakh tonnes. A similar free ed for this scheme. sale quota of 1.20 lakh tonnes has been relased for July, 1977 also.

w i t : m** * (b) Free sale sugar is released to the factories for sale to the licensed 5ft % wholesale dealers any where in the fcra % fsw country. No State-wise quotas are allotted out of the monthly free sale ^ r i r f ir^t releases. qft * ; irnr^rft | fa *5 ^fr^n fa*rj*r SHRI K. MALL ANN A: May I 3ct ^ ^ I ? know from the Minister whether an # ^ W T fv t estimate has been made of Ihe total tt ^et snarrff srr^r ? fa irnff Sf *rt sugar requirement of the country based on the minimum per-capita *Tt*FTT consumption and, if so, the particulars xicVT^r f[t 1 thereof and whether there is any deficiency or insufficiency in allocating «ft Tw ^ k 1 the quota of sugar. I would also like to know whether its release of sugar SHRI BIRENDRA PRASAD: I rise is sufficient for the country. on a point of order. I have not been SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: allowed to put any question. The consumption is about 37 to 38 lakh tons. This is not based on the MR. SPEAKER: Already four per-capita consumption. Levy Sugar people from this Bench have asked is released on the calculation that • questions. There are so many Benches there should not be more than one and we cannot have people only from kilogram per individual and not less this side putting questions. than one kilogram per family.

SHRI K. MALLANNA: I had Release of Additional Quota of free asked whether any assessment had sale sugar been made.

*211. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND I have answered that according to the IRRIGATION be pleased to state: estimate the consumption is about 37 to 38 lakh tons. (a) whether the Union Government "have ordered the release of some SHRI K. MALLANNA: My second additional free sale sugar for internal question is this. If a large quantity • consumption; and of sugar is released to the open Oral Answers ASADHA 8, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

market, the sugar market would be SHORT NOTICE QUESTION depressed and the prices will go down; and if the open market prices tumble Investigations into the Death of Col. down, the manufacturer^ will lose T.S. Anand their profit. So, the manufacturers + are hoarding the sugar in order to NSQ 6. DR. BAPU KALDATE: create scarcity in the country and SHRI DHANNA SINGH amass huge profits. May I know GULSHAN: whether the manufacturers are op- posed to Government policy of releas- Will the Minister of HOME ing more sugar into the open market AFFAIRS be pleased to state: and have submitted a memorandum (a) whether Government have to the Government requesting the started investigations into the causes Government to curtail the release of of death of Col. T. S. Anand; sugar to the open market? (b) whether this incident of death has created panic in the public; and SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: (c) the action taken by Government in this regard? More sugar is being released to keep the price within limits. Tin* prices THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- have now decreased. Last year, FAIRS (SHRI ): about this time, the price was Rs. 490 (a) and (c). According to the Delhi in Delhi and now it is Rs, 400. Police, information was received by the Nangloi Police Station on 4th June, 1977, at about 7.30 p.m., that the srwra : f %• dead body of Lt. Col. T. S. Anand was '*11*1*11 ^V*ft 3TW ^ HitcO' lying in a field in village Punjab Khod. A case under section 302 IPC iFTrft 15T> IT 2 ^ « was registered in this connection. The 15 So | ^ C.B.I. have been put in-charge of the investigation, which is still continu- 4 ^ o 5 0 7 o WT ing. (b ): No, Sir. sto wtt v m ro r : sranrncf 3ft STPTT

MR. SPEAKER: Before we take firc£ts*r tft ?ft ^ 11 m*r ^TT^T^Er ^ I fa afft ^ up the Short Notice Question, I would Jr * ? t v t like to make-an appeal to my friends 11 about the questions put from this side. fflft «TRT ftft ijf W q f 3TPHT If they take the trouble of tabling ^i^irfvinr 302^T%TrTf^Tf%7rr a few main questions also, it would *nrr | ?ft w r % q w "be useful. If they would put not only nrf | for % ^ ft supplementaries but main questions f > fa w * frtft ?nrtfttft also, they would get a better chance. frw | ? w ft fatft ^srffat 31 Oral Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Oral Answers

m t fijr & sftf rftar jsrwn: *ftr g s ft ?rrcj*r ftarr $ fa *n?*-f?qT sfeftm f | ? | i # *nwrar jf fa «rf ^ n % ft ^ v t f vfe^rrt T^r f> ft %ftr : *rt»TCT*TftoT, *nft ft ^ tf wmr ?rft «rtift f% ?nft ^p f * f * f (nOma ft ^ * f r srr s w f% * f ff»HTR f^RT % * f frOT ^ o f ^ i h ^ i fc * n ^rrfirTv iw f ^ r r ^ t t ^ i OT «rTr*T-fcqT f f , * f fft^TT ^ | w Vt 5T* fir^T ^ITCf’TT, eft TTRTpft f t *r° f*nr 5ntr»ft I

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«ft tTT«! fftf : SffTt P fT Ufa* SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: The- fvm nor ^ ^(V>i ^ ^c^Tl ft sr?^t hon. Minister has stated that there is grfvtvRr ift ^tt *>rft a set of circumstances which lead to the conclusion that it may be a case « fk ^ft ^ 'tun ^t^tt of suicide while there are other cir- sftr f^RrTl^di % ^rnr ?rtr frrcr f^rercrr * cumstances which lead to the conclu- sion that it may be a case oi murder. % snr *ft of v t j t t s n ^ , ijw When the case is like that, will the ^ f r * ^tT i hon. Minister say why one of the top Police officials of Delhi, that is the ftw snxum : ft ft*r fftftrar IG of Police, rushed to the Press in an indecent haste and announced to fl n>^ ^ '•t i*i*i i I ^ ft> &M ?ft»T them in a categorical manner that it % 'TUT ^ Pt>H |f, was h case of suicide and why he has done that and whether, since the Government does not approve of his conclusion, the government has taken •it WT*T fa f : in R ^ V ff VT’TTW any action against the official wiho has. *mjw ft *pn, eft far * f nix f t *ptt i made an irresponsible statement. SHRI CHARAN SINGH; The gov- «ft %nm rm ammvm : w t ft?ft ernment does not consider it necessary aft «WTH<1 ftp ^ft qrte-*n£*nnfr- to take any action against the IGP* »itf*i^*i'i §*rr $, ^ r % o f w t ■HHdi as it is a question of opinion. As I already said there are certain circum- * f t ^ fc$T TT *TTWT | ? fcHT % stances which would lead to the con- ^rr»ff % «rft ft rprer *(ft «pa t r t ? clusion that it was a suicide. So, if an officer has reached one of the two- tffr K*r ^ : 'ft^'Hfi^ ^^7- conclusions, it may not be said that he was acting mala fide. 0*jl*w ft JTf ^rmiTftgT $ frr *>*r ft «f w ?rt£ t o ^ ft zg f | i w *roft SIJRI R. K. MHALGI: The hon. Minister stated in his reply that a % tl^HcHMT j| I $& fflTOT^ft j| fiw case is registered under Section M 2 % wt^ft -I % ^ jrraHpJF'i IFC. I m**t to Jump whftber 4he 33 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

Police has reported the names o f any (c) if so, the salient features suspects. thereof?

SHRI CHARAN SINGH: Mo. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- ^ ifhft SWT TW : W>*W HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR f wfttt ’TFfm |f ft wr wm % BAKHT): (a) The Government have no specific information. frrsn | fa ^ retirement to a permanent Govern- ment servant or one having at least »pTTf forfr r

The scheme at (i) above provides for THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE loan assistance to the extent of 80 per AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT cent of the cost of house subject to SINGH BARNALA): (a) Some of the a maximum of Rs. 14,500 to persons taluks in Madurai and Ramnad dis- whose income does not exceed tricts are drought-prone, but the area Rs. 7,200 per annum. The Middle being irrigated in Madurai and Ramnad Income Group Housing Scheme men- districts aggregate to 43 per cent and tioned at (ii) above provides for the 41 per cent respectively of the gross grant of loans to individual house cropped area. Similar percentage for builders who are in the income range the Tamil Nadu State is 48 per cent of Rs. 7,201 to Rs. 16,000 per annum and for the country as a whole is about and the loan assistance admissible is 24 per cent. limited to 80 per cent of the cost of a house subject to a maximum of (b) to (d). The Periyar-Vaigai Rs. 27,500. scheme of water supplies has been drawing almost the entire flows avail- Besides, the Low Income Group able at Periyar Dam and now there is Housing Scheme and the Middle In- no further scope for augmenting the come Group Housing Scheme, there supplies through this system. It has is Village Housing Projects Scheme been reported that the registered which provides for grant of loans to avacut under this scheme has been the individuals, including Government fully irrigated in the past except last employees for construction and im- year (1976-77), which happened to be provement of houses in villages. The a severe drought year. However, the amount of loan is restricted to 80 per Tamil Nadu Government have taken up cent of the cost of construction subject modernisation of the irrigation system to a maximum of Rs. 5,000 per house. under Periyar-Vaigai which envisages The total cost of a house should not lining of the channels, filling of the exceed Rs. 8,000. tanks and provision of control struc- % tures so as to supply water to 25 acre Utilisation of a Bulk of the Periyar blocks. After the modernisation, in- Dam water in Tamil Nadu creased supplies for irrigation of addi- tional 25,000 hectares are expected to ♦207. SHRI P. THIAGARAJAN: be available. Tamil Nadu Govern- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ment has also proposals to take up AND IRRIGATION be pleased to more small irrigation schemes in these .state: two districts in the Fifth Plan. (a) whether Government are aware of the totally inadequate supply of Lift Irrigation Schemes in H.P. water in Madura and Ramnad Districts of Tamil Nadu hampering agricul- tural production; *212. SHRI BALAK RAM: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (b) if so, whether Government have IRRIGATION be pleased to state: charged the possibilities of divert- ing sufficient volume of water from (a) whether there is any Scheme/ Periyar dam to Madura and Ramnad Project/Agency providing Central districts through Vaigai channel; assistance for the formulation and (c) whether Government propose to execution of lift irrigation schemes undertake meaningful utilisation of a for the benefit of small farmers of the bulk of the Periyar Waters which snowbound hilly areas of the country, otherwise flow into the sea unused; and particularly Simla District of Himachal Pradesh, which suffer heavily every (d) if so, the salient feavdi of the year in the absence of assured irriga- plan thereof? tion facilities; Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

(b) if not, whether any alternative ment Project provide central assistance measures are being adopted for increas- for the implementation of lift irrigation ing the agricultural production; and schemes (besides other minor irriga- tion schemes) for the benefit of small (c) if so, the salient features fanners of the snow bound hilly areas thereof? of the country.

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (b) Does not arise in view of (a) AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT above. SINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes Sir, the Small Farmers Development Agencies (c) Tbt salient features of the pro- in the hilly areas of the country in- gramme of the Small Farmers Develop- cluding Simla District of Himachal ment Agencies/Hill Area Development Pradesh and the Hill Area Develop- Project are given below: —

Name of the Area Covered Salient features Agency/Pro jcct

I. S.F.D.A.’s in the 1. Himachal Pradesh Hilly areas of the (i) Simla District The agencies allow 25% and 33*/3% country. (ii) S rmur District subsidy on the capital cost to the (iii) Solan Distt. small and marginal fanners respec- tively for dugwells, tubewells, pump- 2. Jammu & Kashmir sets, renovation of old wells*etc. In case of community schemes 50% (i) Anantnag Distt. subsidy is given to the beneficiaries (ii) Baramula Distt. against loans procured by them from (iii) Poonch-Rajouri Distt. financial institutions.

3. Uttar Pradesh The Small Farmers Development (i) Garhwal Distt. Agency Programme in Simla Distt. 4. Sikkim was started in 1975-76 for a period 5. West Bengal of 5 years with an outlay of Rs. 150 (i) Darjeeling Distt. lakhs. The prc gramme includes lift irrigation schemes on community bfi^is at a total cost o f Rs. I ; lakhs. The rate of subsidy is $0% to the registered bodies of small farmers and marginal farmers.

II. H; 11 Area Develop- j. Uttar Pradesh The allocation for the schemes of Hill ment Project. Area Development during 5th (i) Pauri Garhwal Project Plan period is Rs. 270 lakhs. (ii) Tehri Garhwal 2. Manipur The amount released since inception of the project is Rs. 133 34 lakhs. (i) Manipur West Distt. The above schemes include agricul- tural demonstrations* multiple cropping, introduction of H.Y.P., animal husbandry schemes, soil con- servation, land development, minor irrgation etc. About 13,000 hill families have been benefited under these various schemes since the in- ception of these projects. Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 40

Memorandum about Punjab (iv) A Committee under the University Chairmanship of the Vice-Chancel- lor recommended a number of pe* • 213. SHRI BHAGAT RAM: Will nalties against teachers who failed J ' ‘ ‘ ‘ EDUCATION, S(S- to get themselves sterilised. in e Minister w* 7 CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: (v) While Youth Congress leaders were admitted to the University, (a) whether Government have re- students belonging to other groups ceived any memorandum about the were not admitted; nomination to deplorable conditions prevailing in the Senate were made on political the Punjab University, Chandigarh; considerations; and the Vice-Chan- cellor did not intervene against the (b) if so, salient points of the me- arrests of the students and teachers memorandum; and during the emergency.

(c) action taken thereon? (vi) The Vice-Chancellor got his THE MINISTER OF EDyCATION, own house requisitioned by the Uni- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE versity as his official residence and (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- got it assessed for a high rent; the DER): (a) to (c). Government have Executive Engineer of the Univer- sity has been given extension after received memoranda containing va- extension for getting the rent as- rious allegations regarding the con- sessed at a high rate. ditions prevailing in the Punjab Uni- versity, Chandigarh. The main alle- (vii) A person working as cook gations contained in the memoranda at the Vice-Chancellor’s house was are: appointed as Laboratory Attendant.

(i) The Senate and Syndicate, (viii) An article written by an- on trie Vice-Chancellor’s initiative, other teacher was used by the applauded the promulgation of the Vice-Chancellor as his own and he emergency and felicitated the for- received payment from the Uni- mer Prime Minister, on different versity; the Vice-Chancellor gets occasions. his name included in the research publications of his juniors and (ii) The Vice-Chancellor placed takes credit for a large number of the University buildings at the dis- research papers. posal of the Congress Party for its Chandigarh session in Decem- (ix) Favours were shown in sanc- ber, 1975. University buildings tioning housing loans, allotment/ were made available to the Na- retention of University houses, tional Forum of Teachers and the granting extensions in service etc. National Students’ Union of India for their functions. (x) Appointments made to cer- tain posts have been irregular; a (iii) A iJrovision of Rs. 20,000 large number of appointments are was earmarked in the University made on ad-hoc basis. budget for the medical care of the AICC delegates, a full-page adver- The University was requested to tisement was inserted in a publica- send comments on the allegations. tion in connection with a Seminar The comments have been received on the 230-Point programme. and the matter is under examination. 41 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1809 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

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% faiTfa % V tf 'T’ffc ^ THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI snror srr SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) *fRdT aiTOdfa t ^fr, v ^ r *rc srtfta gT ferd (b) Subsidies are made available «T?T ’Ft *TfrTT %fn % fa-CT for wells and tube-wells (including pump-sets) in the States of Bihar, ^ t \3’-M*wd I, 3ft ^T9% *i(tf+ Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Maharash- Tr^rw^w «

and practice and if sov when and how? ftcrr | srft: fessn't % frm r % fa * *TOT tfPTift SPTT^T *T Wit ^Rft % • THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ff«r wft: fa*rf *** 5(«ft DER): (a) Provisions of the Pass- fas *t5twt) : (t ) *ttct *rc

(2) it is necessary in the inte- (b) Government proposes to use rests of education in tnis cuuntry; the resources available in future for the construction of more quarters by (3) to conserve foreign exchange; reducing the size of quarters to be and built for each class of employee, ex- (4) to discourage individuals cept the lower paid classes. Thus making direct approaches in coun- for each lakh of rupees to be spent tries abroad soliciting invitations on staff quarters, more quarters will which might have undesirable im- be built than under the present stand- plications from the national point ards. of view. Schemes for protection from floods, 3. It has also been prescribed that drought etc. foreign nationals coming to India for research work or for a programme *220. SHRI RAMANAND TIWARY: of study other than a regular course Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE prescribed by an Indian university AND IRRIGATION be pleased to or a recognised institution, should state: obtain prior permission of Govern- ment of India. This procedure was (a) whether the in prescribed to ensure that such visits their election manifesto had declared are in connection with programmes that Government would evolve a na- which are academically feasible and tional policy for proper utilization of that they do not involve any security water and that a coordinated scheme or sensitivity aspect. for protection from floods, drought and other natural calamities would (b) and (c). The required figures also be formulated; are not readily available. The en- tire matter is under review. (b) whether Government propose to take some concrete steps in this direction in the near future; Percentage of Government employees having accommodation facilities in (c) if so, the Scheme proposed to Delhi be formulated for States like Bihar which are always affected by floods and drought; and *219. SHRI GANGADHAR APPA BURANDE: (d) how the expenditure involved SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: in such schemes is proposed to be shared by the Centre and States and Will the Minister of WORKS AND what will be the set up of adminis- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- tration for the implementation of HABILITATION be pleased to state: such schemes? I

(a) the percentage of Government THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- employees in Delhi who have got TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI accommodation facilities; and SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The Janata Party in their Election (b) how the Governmen, is going Manifesto have emphasised the need to taekle the problem? for a national water policy and in- tegrated development of water-sheds, THE MINISTER OF WO vS AND b> provide protection from floods and HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- etfesion and to utilise the available HABILITATION (SHRI STKANDAR ftatfcr potential fbr multipurpose BAKHT) : (a) 41.2 p<*r r° n of Gov- benefits. < ernment employees eligible for gen- fefrfcl p M s^bnmiodation in Delhi, (b) end (e), Irrigation and Fidod have been provided. O&htroi tfe Stfcte subjects aUtt the 4 0 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 ( SAKA) Written Answers j o

responsibility for planning, investi- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL? gation*, formulation of projects and TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI their implementation and operation SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) vests with the State Governments. No, Sir. The question of enacting a suitable legislation to enable the Central Gov- (b) and (c). Do not arise. ernment to play a more active role in the planning and use of water re- *rfaR t (Tw m H ) t sources of the country is being vigo- rously studied by the Government. ^ SfaRT V W’SFfa HT®TT 3TRF

An integrated system of irrigation * 222. irftniT is considered necessary, in view of f f a f W f f fi*TT considerable variations in rainfall fa : both in space and time and regional imbalances in the development of irrigation. Before investigations for (^ ) ^Tr *R+'I c TT f^RTT such schemes are taken up, it is es- sential to first study, in depth, the TT3RT %

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND any essential nutrient does not act HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- as a limiting factor to achieve maxi- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR mum yields, BAKHT): (a) and (b). There is no ban on transfer 0f immovable pro- (iii) use of right type of ferti- perty in the Union territory of Delhi. lisers for individual crops, The question of removing the ban (iv) correct time and metheod of does not, therefore, arise. fertiliser application,

(v) split application of nitroge- Use of Fertilizers by Efficient and nous fertilizers, Economical Method (vi) use of appropriate soil am- 1804. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDA- endments to correct the soil reac-* RAM: Will the Minister of AGRI- tion. CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (vii) adoption of good tilage and better drainage practices, (a) whether in view of the gap (viii) timely eradication of between requirements and avail- weeds ability of fertilisers Government have decided on the most efficient and eco- (ix) adoption of better and nomical method of using fertilizers; timely plant protection measures. (b) if so, the particulars thereof; (x) selection of right type of va- rieties, appropriate planting dates (c) the steps taken to propagate the and plant depths. method to users and associations so as to impress deep awareness of cor- (c) Steps taken to propagate these rect^ procedure; and methods include training of farmers, laying out of demonstrations, publi- (d) whether there is any system of cation of leflets, pamphlets and other analysing feedback from consumers literature for dissemination by the ex- regarding effective use of fertilizers? tension agencies and the fertilizer manufacturers, national demonstra- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- tions in farmers’ fields by the I.C.A.R., TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Kisan Melas and field days by Agri- SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) At cultural Universities and extension present adequate quantities of ferti- functionaries. lisers are available. However, in order to enable farmers to get maxi- (d) The system of feedback com- mum benefit out of the applied ferti- prises, in the main, the following: lisers, instructions have been issued from time to time to the State Gov- (i) fertilizer trials under the aus- ernments on the efficient and econo- pices of the ICAR and State Govern- mical method of using fertilisers. ments, all India coordinated agro- nomy research programme; (b) For efficient and economic use of fertiliser the farmers are advised (ii) operational research projects to adopt the following practices: conducted jointly by ICAR, Local agencies and State Departments of (i) use of soil testing facilities to Agriculture; determine the amounts of nutrients required for a particular combina- (iii) field trials, field days, kisan tion of soil and cropping pattern, meals and research workshops in collaboration - with extension func- (ii) to adopt balanced use of fer- tionaries conducted by the agi'cut- tiliser nutrients so thatlhe lack of tural universities; 53 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 5,4

(iv) farmers training centres and Shortage of Fertilisers other programmes of farmers train- ing. This feedback is systematical- 1806. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: WiU ly analysed in the research station* the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND and agricultural uriversities *§hd the IRRIGATION be pleased to state: research programmes re-oriented as per need. (a) whether there has been a short- age of certain varieties of fertilisers in the country and their market price is considerably higher than that of pKlfacT SFTT mfiRnff V other varieties; and mqifswtfMi start (b) if so, the reasons therefor and steps Government propose to take in respect thereof?

1805. safcr: 3FTT ftWT, THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 5T? sldl'l AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGJi BARNALA): (a) and (b;. “Ft 2>mi +'^

Executive Engineers in C.P.WJ). fivwT, *f*rn* f?«rm H^fcr officiating in the Grade for more than 20 Years *Wt (TTo sh ttt^x !5F?T) 1807. SHRI G. M. BANATWALA: (w) qft i97i^V sr^FnTT Will the Minister of WORKS AND % SRSTTC 60 ?PT m %■ 35TT *Pt STFT HOUSING.AND SUPPLY AND RE- o « HABILITATION be pleased to state % sqfiRpfi 5^ 53f^n 261.41 STO number of Executive Engineers C.E.S. «ft I Class I and C.E.E.S. Class I (Electri- cal) in C.P.W.D. who are officiating for more than 15 years but less than ftrrfa ^ ?r©n % *rarftr?r 20 years and more than 10 years but less than 15 years in that grade and 3W «T JTft | 1 *rn:

Executive Engineers is made from two pushed dbtvn and absorbed in the year sources viz. Assistant Executive Engi- in which they can be adjusted against neers and Assistant Engineers. For their own quota vacancies. Their offi- recruitment through the two sources ciating appointment on a regular basis, a quota has been fixed by rule, statu- will therefore, be deemed to have com- torily. However, due to non-availabi- menced only from the date of their lity of people from one source, the absorption against their quota. Due to posts have been, in the exigencies of this there will be a difference between public service, filled by appointment the date of appointment, in exigencies of the people from tiie ofrier group. of public service, in excess of their The Supreme Court has held that such quota and officiating appointment on ? people having been appointed in ex- regular basis, fioth these information cess of their quota, will have to be are furnished hereunder:—

Civil Ergineers Elcctrical Engineers On regular Total Revglar Total basis (including (inclu- rcgular and ding ad-hoc) regular and ad-hoc)

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'I; (a) the criteria for establishment of Central Schools in various areas;

(^ ) «ruT5i|cr ^rqf^s^szmvf^t (b) whether Government have con- ^TW R t * ^ fir^T TfT t sidered need for establishment of t 3R% WCJTTWt ^ m - Central Schools in rural areas as well; and ftr^TTfT t ; (c) if so, the salient features of any plan in this regard? (*r) w srnFft *?t sfa ^>T*t % fa1? W^T “Ft '5TT Tft ^ ; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (w) w t fc^ft % sramr ?t»t35t ¥ DER): (a) to (c). The criteria for %*rnT^t|ft? 1 5 5pf % 'TFTRf establishment of Central Schools are Mc*ieT> yszrpTV ^t y^rw^PT 73" ferr ^ 1*); given in the statement attached. v h STATEMENT 1. Proposals for opening new Kend- (T) qft ft, eft w it fqT riya Vidyalayas (Central Schools) ar® vphrft ?Ft irr Tft t ? considered only:— (i) When requests are received fttQTTf iftr from any of the following:— jf^ (tto shut **z *f*t) : (*r) (a) Ministries or Departments (*j). sfc^ srn^r *rt5t of the Government of India, (b) State Governments, sftr *fr«raT % jttstt ' *7, fen ^rat | 1 (c) Union Territory Adminis- ?fk W ^ r STrq^ ^TfR^T 5rm % trations, fax* arO-qrfi gfcnrt ?r?r«r *t x*£t snrft 1 1 (dj Organisation of employees STcT: SfST SfTIRTT ^ T % *TPT belonging to the eligibe categories; §5RT ^ 3TT *TCnft I [as in (iii)].

(n ) jt r JTft ^sar 1 (ii) When a piece of land, mea- suring about 15 acres, is made avail- (*) ftl able by the Sponsoring Authority, free of cost to the Kendriya Vidya- ) STSR’ ’Tff 'ii'li 1 ^ffPf> 2 0 laya Sangathan; sfWlVM *H

4‘Exception may, however, be made (c) the reasons as to why remain- in places where good teaching faci- ing employees, if any, were not lities are not available and a Vidya- brought under F.R. ai*d S.R.? laya will have to be set up to attract THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- the best talent to serve there or as TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI a Welfare measure for Central Gov- SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to ernment Employees and other en- (c). The information is being collected titled personnel serving in that and the same will be laid on the Table place.” and of the Lok Sabha in due course. (iv) When the sponsoring autho- rity makes available free of rent Allotment of Bungalows to Ministers or on nominal rent temporary ac- commodation to house the expand- 1812. SHRJ MOHD. SHAFl QURE- ing Vidyalaya till such time as the SHI: Will the Minister of WORKS Kendriva Vidyalaya Sangathan can, AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND with its limited resources, construct REHABILITATION be pleased to its own Vidyalaya buildings on the state : land given to it. (a) the number of bungalows and 2. A new Kendriya Vidyalaya (Cen- House allotted to Ministers and the tral School) can also be open$i if any area of the land both constructed or of the Government of India Under- otherwise attached to such bungalows takings agrees to pay the entire ex- and houses; penditure, recurring and non-recurring, including accommodation, land and (b) names of Ministers who have future developmental charges on the asked for accommodation in flats or proposed Kendriya Vidyalaya (Central smaller houses; and School). (c) names of Ministers who have 3. For the setting up of new Kend- houses and land in Delhi and the area riya Vidyalayas (Central Schools) of such houses? in the campuses of institution of high- er learning like IITs, CSIR laborato- ries etc. the sponsoring authority THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND should provide and bear the cost of HOUSING AND SUPPLYW AND RE. non-recurring expenditure on build- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ings and equipment etc. Condition BAKHT): (a) The information is l(iii) will however apply. given in the statement annexed.

(b) Shri L. K. Advani, Minister for Saw Mill Division of Forest Depart- Information and Broadcasting has ment in Andaman and Nicobar Islands decided to continue in Type VI flat No. C-I/6 Pandara Park occupied by him earlier as a Member of Parlia- 1811. SHRI MANOR AN JAN BHAK- ment. However, he has been given TA: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- the adjoining flat No, C-I/5 Pandara TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased Park as an office attached to his resi- to state: dence. Shri Biju Patnaik Minister for (a) the total strength of Saw Mill Steel and Mines asked for allotment Division of Forest Department in the of bungalow No. 26 Mahadev Road •Union Territory of Andaman and (type VI) which has been allotted to Nicobar Islands; him. (b) number of employees brought (c> The information is being collect- tinder F.R. and S.B. said under In- e<* an<* on t^le Table of 4 ustrial establishment; and House In due course. ‘ S t a t e m e n t 61

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MulttwriomyMl Buildings for MIG DER): (a) The third meeting of tfa* and LIG Groups Indo-U.S. Sub-Commission on Educa- i tion and Culture was held on May 1813*. SHRI R, P. DAS: Will the 25-26, 1977. Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA-

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Absorption of Teachers on ad hoc*. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- Panel by Directorate of Education. HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Delhi B5VKHT): (a) and (b) The D.D.A. is constructing 3 to 4 storey houses. There is no decision yet to construct 1815. DR. R ROTHUAMA: Will houses with more storeys. the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: Indo-U.S. Sub-Commission in Education (a) whether an assurance was given to all the teachers on the ad hoc panel (1973-74) of Directorate of 1814. SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEH. Education, Delhi to the effect that all T A : Will the Minister of EDUCA- those on the panel will be absorbed TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL- in regular vacancies; TURE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the number of teachers (a) whether the third meeting of absorbed so far from the above panel; the Indo-U.S. Sub-Commission on and education and culture was held on 25th of May, 1977 in New Delhi; (c) when the remaining teachers on the panel are likely to be absorbed (b) the outcome of the proposed in regular vacancies? meeting; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, (c) whether any agreement has SOCIAL WELFARE. AND CULTURE been reached for wider collaboration (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN., between the two countries in the DER); (a) No, sir. field of exchange of scholars and intellectuals; and (b) Does not arise, However 571 teachers out of a panel of 721 (d) to what extent the U.S. Gov- teachers were appointed against re- ernment has agreed to help India in gular vacancies. promoting education and culture? (c) The life of the panel expired in THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 1975. The question of absorption of SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the remaining teachers from the panel (DR. P&ATAP CHANDRA CHUN- does not arise. 922 LS—3 67 W ritten Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 68

Revision of Fifth Five Tear Flan for Massive Erosion of Western Fanners of River Bhagirathi

1817. SHRI SASANKASEKHAR 1816. SHRI DHARMAVIR VASISTH: SANYAL: Will the Minister of Will the Minister of AGRICUL AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased be pleased to state: to state: (a) whether Government are aware (a) the extent to which Fifth Five that the Western Banks of river Bha- Year Plan has been revised to secure girathi from Farakka, Dhuliyat, fair price to fanners and to secure Aurangabad, Nimtita downwards are minimum needs of farmers in respect undergoing massive erosion at alarm- of improved seeds, implements, fer- ing rate every year; and tilizers and pesticides; (b) if so, what steps have been or

jJroposed in the Fifth Plan to establish *r (»if* ?r*mt) tn(t an agricultural college in Goa. How- ^gqF ff % mVT»T % 1w ^TT TfT ever, Planning Commission did not agree and instead suggested students 1 1 W r W r t Sr 5 ® ?wt from Goa be sent to neighbouring $ > 3 * ^ % STTT 'Tnft f?T^RTT | *ftT f ® states on payment of stipend. Stu- % wteT srtr trpft f?R^rar 11 dents are being sent by Goa Govern- ment regularly for training since 'the lirst year of the Fifth Plan period. tHdM'M <1 % ‘aft’ rmr ‘*ft’ ‘wt’ srnr $ 'nfft ^r^TTf f w (b) No, Sir. 3TT TfT I I ‘q ’ ^ ftr % V i4> m i*fi wiT% &m*n Uniform Price of Fertiliser 1 1 ^ m sn sp V ^rr?fr I fa W % ‘r^n’ Jr 1822. DR. BAPU KALDATE: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND fatftT *fteT Tnft S^T d H - IRRIGATION be pleased to state: qfr % s^rTT ‘ft’ Sr irerr ‘in ;’ % >5 s?rr^t ir^r fe®?r q^rqi (a) whether there is acute shortage C* of fertiliser/urea in the country; W*ut *pt *T*TT ^THEff ^T HT q^T ^IT^T ^T TfT | I (b) whether there has been any shortfall in the production of fertili- ser; (*r) f^ ?ft if flWRW: TPTT # | i (c) whether this has resulted in in- iNnmt fw ^ -fi# r | ?rk sre % crease in the price of urea and fer- qiwsnrnr qjr f t urtnft ?nft ~*r% ^ tilisers; and f?r + -m W t ?r Tr^fr €r ^r^ni faqfjr^ (d) if so, steps being taken for ^jf»rT^TT|f^ 1981 uniform price policy of fertilizers and adequate supply thereof throughout rRi ^r qf^Mdn* ttt ^rwfr 1 the country?

Agricultural College in Goa THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA).: (a). 1821. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: No, Sir. Adequate quantities of ferti- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to lisers including urea are available in the country for meeting the require- state: ments of fertiliser for all the major nutrients namely, Nitrogen, Phosphate (a)' whether no agricultural col- lege has been established in Goa so and Potash. far and if so, reasons thereof; and (b) Yes, Sir. Daring the year (b) whether Government propose 1976-77 there has been marginal short- fall of 2.4 per cent in the production to establish such a college there now? of nitrogen.

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- (c> No, Sir. In fact the retail prices TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI of fertilisers have been reduced ^ve SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) So times during the past two years. far, no agricultural college has been established in this territory. It was (d) Question does not arise, Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

JTI5I * fawf *T VCMV£»I level in this area. No difficulty has come to the Central Government's I notice regarding the mobility of min- 1823. : ^TT ing engineers from one part of the f f a fnxnf *feft *rf ^<=n% fr r country to another. f r :

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( ’sr) ft, eft *nrr *n37n: T^t Metalliferous mining and Metallurgi- cal Institute in South WfT T7 ^t*ft fr|H Tt WTTT TT ^f^ft ; vftT 1824. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL (*r) sfc ft, eftfc*rr *r wzm WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: ^TT f^TTT f^F^T cTTThsT ei+ ^TTJT 5T*F

(a) whether there is any proposal under the consideration of Govern- ment for establishment of a metalli- ffa wft fimrf *frit ('^V^rsftw ferous mining and metallurgical insti- fa f ST^rmr) : (^ ) % (*t) * f W * tute in the South as a National Insti- tution like the Dhanbad school; and f^TT fTSfT (b) whether Dhanbad school is now |5RT t I 3ft Tf# ft the only national institution which efajft | f ^ f t ?«nfqeT STWT 1118 caters to coal mining only whereas jfRrCt *T5tT STPeiPl'i ^ I f^TT'T *Tf- the institute in the South would over- come the present lack of mobility of ^TTt fiT^T TT’T'TTTT, f^FTT mining engineers between the North gfTTT^ yt 2 6 ^ , 1974 'Ft 1250 and the South? jftSTt WT >l(ellVT HIV" THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, w | vYc ^rvt $nrt vivffNer SOCIAL WELFARE ANd CULTURE ^TT I t Tpq SW * % ^faeT fW | (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) No, Sir. f»RT f^RHfTW W ^>T JTf? TOT it^^ ft?TT | (b) Besides the Indian School of Mines Dhanbad, Six institute including if ^*TH OT^TSWeTT ^ f t ?Tft ^ one in South—Osmania University, Hyderabad offer courses at firs? degree 75 Written Answers JUNK 27, 1977 Written Answers

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( h ) n h ft m * : *rr?^ ^ »Tf TTfffT TT 8 0 5TfcmcT ^ * t ^ -^ T -, 3 0 -1 -1 9 7 3 , nrr% TT **TR, *IT«ft fw f TTfjT?n|5rtfaf5Tfa?rRt^r 20 **|fa I sr%^T"T Written Antw en ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answer* 78

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ffti «ftr ftw f («ft Necessity for levy procurement wr*n^r) : (^r) ^Pf^T^r 1 $ fa *PFRT ( 1970- 71) spt*rfii?r *ricdta fcrt£% 1828. SHRI S- R. DAMANI: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND sr* tr;f^ 54 IRRIGATION be pleased to state: SfaSR srm foqi ^TRT | f3R% TRT 4 , tll=t JlHl^ 1 ^i W f “Ft STT% sdWTT ^ #TT I (b) Jn view of the comfortable stock position of wheat the State Govern- ments have been advised not to resort (*r) sft ^ 1 ^rq^rssr ^rnrerrct *t to procurement of rabi cereals by *T%tT I f a 5T>3R1 % oq-q- % levy on producers or trade. Levy gf w-^rfWf ^ft ^t# wm procurement of paddy/rice is, how- ever, considered necessary to meet the JTT^T^f5T'^t «ft I requirements of the public distribution Written Answers JUNE 27, H W Written Answers 80

system and to build up a buffer stock. (c) The methods of procurement and The matter will be further reviewed the. quantum of levy are decided by at the time of formulating the Kharif the State Governments. A statement policy for the marketing season showing the limits of levy in force in 1977-78. the States is attached.

Statement

State-wise procurement by way of levy on paddy I rice

1. Andhra Pradesh 50% levy on millers. 2. Bihar No levy. 3. Gujarat. Graded levy on producers. 4- Haryana 90% levy of rice on millers/dealers. ,5. Himachal Pradesh . No levy 6. Karnataka Graded levy on producers of paddy, jowar and ragi. 7* Jammu and Kashmir No levy. 8. Kerala . Graded levy on producers. 9« Madhya Pradesh 60% levy of rice on millers/traders. 30. Maharashtra Levy at specified scale with reference to lajyi revenue payable by the land-holders in terms of any one of the foodgrains viz. paddy/rice/jowar/bazra/wheat. xi. Nagaland No levy. 12. Orissa No levy 13. Punjab . 90% levy of rice on milles/dealers. 14. Rajasthan 60% levy of rice on millers. 15. Sikkim « No levy. 16. Tamil Nadu Levy on wholesale dealers including millers on pur- chases of paddy/rice in specified areas at the rate of 40%. 17. Uttar Pradesh Rice under levy on millers/licensed dealer*. Per- centage of levy fixed at 75% in the Western districts of Uttar Pradesh and 40% in Gorakhpur and Va- ranasi Divisions. Some hilly districts/areas exempted from the purview of the levy order.

18. West Bengal Rice under levy on mills at 50%. Paddy under Producers levy also.

fln n t of House Building Advande to (a) whether both the Finance and Government em ploy** the Law Ministries of Central Gov- ernment in 1973 approved of the grant of house building advances to 1829. SHRI R. K. MJIAI^GI: Will the Central Government employees the Minister Q| WQRKS ANJ> HOUS- for the purchase of flats subject to the ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI- provisions of Maharashtra Act No. 3£V TATION be pleased to state: 1971; 8l Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 ( 8AKA) Written Answers 82

(b) whether there is a pressing need and also demand by the con- cerned persons for rationalizing and amending the House Building Advance 1830. JTil TOT Regulations of Government of India; ftratf ^ fa: and (c) if so, what action has Govern- ment taken or propose to take in the ( t ) matter and when? fr^T

had been allotted by the Department of Rehabilitation to the Society and Rs. 10 lakhs had been deposited by the Society as part payment.

(b) It is not clear what assurance fa n it r t given in the last Lok Sabha is being referred to. 1833. * t o WFfrrrem q.swf : (c) Regarding finalisation of prices fererr sw m etc., the matter is being looked into by the Department of Rehabilitation. |T

(*p) WT JTr^3TWT7Trrr TJ- JJ- Journalists occupying Government T | | ; fa ST^l-T ^[ifnT Accommodation Sill fa q ■||IT I jfitr •

1832. SHRI SATYENDRA NARA- YAN SINHA: Will the Minister of (sr) srir 3r w WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUP- PLY AND REHABILITATION be pleased to state: fcwr, ?t *ti (a) whether journalists occupying Government accommodation in Delhi ( t t o sitfiq ) : (*f ) fa?«r- were served with notice to pay penal- farzrRpr sTnfur st t t ty rents in May, 1977 even after Gov- ernment stated in the House ill the fa^ ^ cw qr+rr nrr fer last session its intention to continue to provide accommodation at normal tft I rT^TT TT f rates; f w ^TTar | sr^r snrrf^ m*fr (b) if so, whether any inquiry has arovsrsFt m

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Rehabilitation of refugees in BAKHT): (a) to (c). Government Dandakaranya have decided to revive the Press Pool. Formal orders on the subject would 1834. SHRI K. N. DASGUPTA: Will be issued soon. Pending issue of for- the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- mal orders, certain bills for the month ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI- of April, 1977, at market rates were LITATION be pleased to state: issued but payment at those rates has

not y e t been received. Any excess (a) whether any survey was made amount, included in the bills, would about the rehabilitation of refugees in be adjustable after the issue of final Dandakaranya during the last ten orders. years to ascertain the problems of the 85 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers

people there; if so, what does the (2) Water Supply: purvey indicate; (a) Irrigation projects—

(b) what is the size of the popula- (i) completed . . 2 tion today and how does it compare (ii) under construction. 3 with the size ten years ago; and (b) Minor Irrigation Sche- (c) what steps have been taken to mes . 33 give facilities like roads, water sup- (c) Village tanks . . 271 ply, hospitals, schools, markets, etc. there? (d) Head water tanks 315 (e) Masonry wells . . 441 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (f) Tube-wells . . 1454 HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (3) Hospitals & Other Medical BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. Apart from institutions : the periodic review of the entire re- (a) Hospitals ?nd Prm aiy habilitation programme by the Dan- Health Centres . . 14 dakaranya Development Authority, a survey of the non-agriculturist fami- (b) Dispensaries . . 3 lies settled in Dandakaranya was con- (c) Health sub-ccntres . 13 ducted in 1971. The survey noted that their settlement had not been as suc- (d) Primary Emergency Aid Centres . . . 51 cessful as that of agriculturist settlers and that more attention and guidance (4) Schools : were required, besides some more fin- ancial help. In this regard, appropriate (a) Primary . 287 action was taken by the Dandakaran- (b) M iddle . . 28 ya Development Authority and the Government. (c) Rjgn 4 (5) Markets i (b) The population of displaced persons as on 30-4-77 was 19,976 fa- (Weekly Hats) 20, in addition milies of settlers and 5.671 families in to 30 already relief stage in fearrai shibirs, as existing. against 10,222 families of settlers and 889 families in relief stage in transit centres on 30-4-1967.

(c) A statement containing these details is attached.

Statement 1835. «ft : TOT f f a

Facilities like Roads, Water Supply. Hospitals, Schools, Markets, etc. provided f%: in the Dandakaravva Project

( 1) Roads : ( r ) r fc wrftir v (n) M ’n roads 474 Kms. (b) T r:bal roads 281 Kms. irjf (c) Link roads 750 Kms. TOST f ; sfk « 7 W ritten Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers

(3T) r^TIHI Tt WT smr (a) whether Government have W f gift | ? achieved the food target programmo set lor the recent Kharif crop; f f a fircnf *r?ft («ft (b) ii so, the total food procured ^WT) : (t) ffa t m ?TR>T % so far by all the agencies; and 1 9 7 7 -7 8 i f m TV *Tf JT^I jftfa % (c) whether india will be self-suffi_ STCFTt it irg^t xJMI^T cient in regard to the food during the current year? 3rr^ it Tt| ? n r t ^|t feT f i rrmfa snra Tt ^fcft ;tft ^rpra- t t m w r THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- sD TURE AND IRRIGATON (SHRI Tt f^^Rr zft^nn % %Rmx 't^rre, c o SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) fH^mrr srfc ^yk srtt, % TT^ff % ^tfrt and (b). For the Kharif marketing wraffftS^r^TtT^ *HHHI TT S^TT season 1976-77, Government have fix- X s ° ed a procurement target of 44.00 lakh t t r fe n *iw\ 11 tonnes for rice. For Kharif Coarse Cereals no target has been fixed.

TT^T As per information available upto 25-6-77, a total quantity of 44.98 lakh tonnes of Kharif cereals, including 1975-76 99. 45 42.80 lakh tonnes of rice, has been 1 975-76 83. 65 procured. sr^r 1 975-76 89. 69 (c) In the context of comfortable stock ,position, Government have suspended commercial purchases of Trnff n fspr m t *flwf w m * foodgrains from abroad from June* f^TT WT *t STfacT sri^ri 3*T% 1976 and do not envisage any need for t I TOR ^ f¥m Tf^r 1977-78 importing foodgrains in the near fu- ture. % f^Ttr *nft TT^ff % focr ^Trf

*rg ^ft 110 — srf?r ^t Toga Assessment Committee 1JPT fasrffTcT f^TT ^ I 1837. SHRI HARI VISHNU KA- MA TH: Will the Minister of EDU- (^ ) ^Rft oFt v\l*Tcl w if+ 54^^ CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND < m H f ^ - f ^ r ftcft | %rrt s r f^ n CULTURE be pleased to state; «Ft % ^TTOT, '3cTT^^ (a) whether it is a fact that some-

sqiMTC % 3^r cs 5TTRT ^Tff time in 1976 Government constituted ^t ^TTcTT f , it *TT3T ^ t r t ?ffT a Committee called the Yoga Assess- ment Committee; ^TRTT Tt ^t% ^r% 5IT*I ^ 5tT *fj+^ «kh«iJ +Gw ^ I (b) if so, the personnel of the Com* mittee; (c) the purpose for which the Co®' Self sufficiency In Food mittee was set up; and (d) the work done so far by the 1838. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN:. Committee? SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Will the Minister of AGRICUL- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA. CHUN- DER): (a) The Society for the Na- to state: " 89 Written * » » « • » ASADHA *, m t WrMm Amver, ^ tional Institute of Physical Educa- mature to ifcconunend introduction tion and Sports (S.N.I.P.E.S.) ap- of this ‘Syllabus' in the formal sys- pointed in J9t6 a Yoga Assessment tem of education in the country Committee under the Chairmanship and, before any specific recommen- of Lt. Gen. K. P. Candeth, Director dation was made in this behalf, it General (Youth Services) Govern- would be necessary to have a pro- ment of India, and a member of the per mix of the Yogasanas and phy- Society. sical education activities tried out over a fairly representative group (b) and (c). The Composition of of schools. Accordingly, it recom- the Committee as well as its terms mended that a controlled experi- of reference are given in the State- ment in 20 selected schools in the ment. Union Territory of Delhi on the (d) The Committee at its first basis of a proper mix of physical meeting held on the 7th October, 1976, education and Yoga activities, had some general discussion in the should be conducted under the context of its terms of reference and supervision and guidance of ex- some of the important decisions perts. emerging therefrom were as under:1— The S.N.I.P.E.S. Board of Govern- (i) to undertake an on-the-spot ors, at its meeting held on the 28th assessment of the working of the May, 1977, considered inter-alia the two Yoga institutions in receipt of recommendation of the Sub-Commit- regular grants ifrom the Ministry tee and directed the main Committee of Education and Social Welfare to hold another meeting to review its namely the Kaivalyadham shreeman recommendations. The Member Secre_ Madhav Yoga Mandir Samiti, Lona- tary of the Committee has been re- vla () and the Vishwayatan quested to convene a meeting of the Yoga Ashram New Delhi, after col- Committee. lecting from them factual data in res_ Statement pect of their working; COMPOSITION AND TERMS OF (ii) On the basis of factual data, REFERENCE OF THE COMMITTEE 1o be collected in advance, to un- dertake an on-the-spot assessment (A) Composition: of the activities and programmes of Chairman selected Yoga institutions to consi- der the feasibility of enlarging the 1. Lt. Gen. K. P. Candeth, PVSM, scope of financial assistance under Director General (Youth Services), the Government’s programme for Cabinet Secretariat, Government of promotion of Yoga; India. New Delhi. (iii) appointment of a Syllabus 2. Shri A. S. • Talwar, Deputy Sub-Committee to examine the sug- Secretary, Physical Education and gestion regarding introduction o f Sports), Ministry of Education and Yoga as a subject of study in Social Welfare (Department of schools and colleges. Whereas the Education), New Delhi. on-the-spot assessments, have yet to 3. Dr. M. Robson, Principal, be undertaken by the' Committee, the Syllabus Sub-Committee has Lakshmibai National College of Phy- sical Education, Gwalior—474002 since met (March 1977). It consi- dered the ‘Syllabus for Yoga Edu- (Madhya Pradesh). cation for Schools and Colleges’ pre- 4. Dr. P. N. V. Kurup, Adviser pared by the Central Council for Indigenous System of Medicine), {Research in Irklian Medicine and Ministry of Health and Family Wel- Homoeopathy. The Sub-Committee fare (Department of Health), Nir- expressed the view that it was pre- man Bhawan, New Delhi. Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 92

5. Director, Central Research Ins- experts abroad and/or invite persons titute of Yoga, Near Gole Post from abroad for training/research Office, New Delhi. in Yoga in India under the bilateral Cultural Exchange Programmes with 6. Swami Anandananda, Yoga foreign countries; Acharya, Yogic Treatment-cum-fl£- search Centre, Jaipur (Rajasthan). (vi) to consider ways and means of setting up of Yoga institutions 7. Dr. G. S. Chinna, Professor of abroad and/or rendering assistance Physiology, All India Institute of two foreign Governments for setting Medical Sciences, New Delhi. up of such institutions; 8. Shri D. G. Wakharkar, Adviser (vii) to suggest measures for to State Government of Maharash- publicity and/or progagation of tra on Sports and Physical Educa- Yoga abroad in its authentic and tion, C/10 Director of Sports & scientific perspective; Youth Welfare, Maharashtra State, .Poona (Maharashtra). (viii) to suggest ways and means for establishing Liaison betwen the Member Secretary Ministry of Education and Social Welfare and the Ministry of Health 9. Shri R. L. Anand, Director, and Family Welfare in matters re- Netaji Subhas National Institute of lating to promotion of different as- Sports, Patiala (Punj ab). pects of Yoga so as to eliminate possible duplication or overlapping

(b) if so, whether Government solution of the Ministry of Education 1 have conducted any enquiry into this and Social Welfare dated 11-3-1977 to complaint; and provide a forum to philosophers for exchange of views and to encourage, (c) hte reason for not taking promote and review teaching and re- action against the Commandant search in philosophy. By that Resolu- against whom series of complaints tion also Prof. D. P. Chattopadhyaya, from the refugees are reported? the then Minister of Commerce, Gov- ernment of India, was appointed, the THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Chairman of th© Council. Prof. Chat- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- topadhyaya did not take over the HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR charge of Chairman but declined. BAKHT): (a) From enquiry it has been found that these 43 families were (b) Whenever any complaints are discharged from Deoli Camp (Rajas- received in the Ministry of Education than) with effect from 21-6-1976 (not against persons holding high positions 251-6-1977 as mentioned in the Ques- in academic bodies dealt with direct- tion), as they refused to move to the ly by the Ministry, they are looked place of rehabilitation, although two into and decisions taken on merits. opportunities were offered to them. On compessionate grounds, however, «TTfft JTTTlft SMlfcqO *T*TT *>T VTUVTIT they were granted rehabilitation be- nefit only and it is reported that these 1840. frqrsftarfc «prr ftren, families have moved to the place of rehabilitation; OTTO «»><*< N 5TOT W t ^ frqT far: (b) and (c). Do not arise. Appointment of Shri D. P. Chatto- (^r) hitO srrrfT'jft *pht % padhyaya as Chairman of Council of TPHFrrrt spy ^rN- ct>27, 1977 Written Answers 96

Education programme has been Scheme for FA ibdk Retention Dun found too inadequate; and In Assam (b) if bo, what steps have been 1843. SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI taken by the Government to increase BARKATAKI: Will the Minister of assistance and better emoluments to AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION those engaged in the propagation of be pleased to state: adult education? THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, (a) whether the shceme for Pagla- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE dia retention Dam in Kammp District (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- of Assam has been abandoned; DER): (a) Keeping in view the prob- (b) if so, what are the reasons for lem of adult illiteracy the provision abandoning the scheme; and for Adult Education in the Fifth Five Year Plan is inadequate. (c) if not, what is the progress (b) The two main schemes of made on this scheme? Adult Education in the Central Plan are (i) Farmers Functional Literacy THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- Project; (ii) Non-Formal Education TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI for 15—25 age-group. The instructors SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) of the Adult Education Centres under No, Sir. each of these schemes are given an (b) Does not arise. honorarium of Rs. 50/- per month. In view of the fact that for tackling (c) The Pagladiya Detention Dam the problem of illiteracy it would be Project was approved in February, necessary to launch a massive pro- 1973. by the Planning Commission gramme, it would not be feasible to for Rf. 12.6 crores as a purely flood increase the monthly honorarium. moderation scheme. During the 7th meeting of the Brahmaputra Flood Control Board held on 8th April, 1975, it was suggested that the possibility Review of price Policy in regard to of utilising the stored waters, for Sugar Industry irrigation may also be explored so 1842. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will that the project could be more the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND attractive and remunerative. In De- IRRIGATION be pleased to state: cember, 1976, the Government of (a) whether Government propose Assam submitted a report dealing to review the price policy in regard with the irrigation component, at an to sugar industry; estimated cost of Rs. 8.2 crores. since this project report had not been sup- (b) whether such review has been ported with adequate technical data, made recently; and the State Government was addressed (c) if so, the result of such review to prepare a comprehensive multi- and the decision of the Government purpose project including Flood Con- thereon? trol and Irrigation aspects. This re- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- port is now under preparation by TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI the State Government. SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). Price policy in regard to Losses due to Brahmaputra’s floods sugar industry is reviewed normally twice in every sugar season. Price 1844. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR*. Will policy for 1976-77 season is under the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND consideration of the Government. IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (c) Th<» House will be informed of (a) whether during the month o f the decision as and when it is taken. May and June, 1977 the Brahmaputra Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 ( SAKA) Written Answers 98 ahd its tributaries were in spate fol- service to their credit are not provid- lowing heavy rain; ed with accommodation facilities; and (b) if so, whether a large area of (b) if so, the steps taken to provide Barapeta sub-division in lower Assam accommodatinn to them? had been affected and the floods have THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND washed away the crops in various HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- parts of Assam; and HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (c) whether the Union Government BAKHT): (a) A large number of have supplied food to the flood vic- Government servants, who have put tims in the State; and if so, to what in 10 to 20 years’ service and who extent? are eligible for general pool accom- modation, are waiting for allotments. THE "MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (b) Within the available resources, SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Government is trying to construct as Due to heavy rains in the catchment, many quarters as possible. two waves of low to medium floods occurred in the Brahmaputra and its tributaries towards the end of May and mid-June respectively.

(b) According to the preliminary 1846. reports received from the State Gov- ernment of Assam, crops in the Bagh- * rfo fiKun : bor circle of Barpeta, and in parts of Jorhat, North Lakhimpur, Sibsagar, frwr jr n r : Mangaldoi, Tezpur and Karimganj districts were affected by floods. The ffWTT, *T*TT* W ffa extent of the area affected in Barpeta ^ iwrr aF$rf% : sub-division is yet to be reported by the State Government. (fr) srsrfur^, l a rEH (c) Distribution of relief to flood victims is undertaken by the State % STOtTT % farr Government. The State Government SFflt STITtT rushed gratuitous relief to the affect- ed areas in addition to supply through *TWT mWRR f^T | fair price shops in the area. The Government of India have released to the State Government 5000 tonnes JTTT f t 3TFT WFft fiT of rice to meet the emergency.

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vrrffir dir . Rstoon cultivation F’TT f r :— 1847. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED- DY: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- (^ ) rfhT W'Tf if f5T fVfpft TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased % f?T(T to state: faq ; *rft: (a) whether the Ratoon, a cheap sugar source, has been discovered by (» i) irsrfc fo-T'ft Scientists of Indian Institute of Sugar- wfa % f^T*r fonrf me Research, Lucknow; and srn^T ? (b) if so, steps proposed to be taken by the Government to exploit the ff a wh: ftrwrf sraft (sft grstor cultivation of ratoon plant for the fa? evrmr) : (*f) ^faft *ft*RT % production of sugar for commercial ir 1973-74 v v purposes?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- 4 2 .2 ^TT I V ? W, TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI 1 976—77 V *T*rf cFf> TT 47.4 SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) fa fa m f t m r | trhr^t In sugarcane cultivation ratooning jfR n i k d>r ir 5.2 i.e. raising a second crop from the Tt I I stubble after harvesting the plant crop, is a normal practice all over the (g) srr% srcff ir country. It is, therefore, not correct S fir f^ T say that scientists of Indian Insti- gfarofr srt arf^rr ft ^rr% t T %rmr tute of Sugarcane Research, Lucknow I • have discovered ratoon as a cheap sugarcane source. They have, how- ever, developed agro-tech'nology for Demands by National Association of improving yields from sugarcane Food Corporation Employees ratoons. 1849. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of (b) Agro-technology developed at AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: the Indian Institute of Sugarcane Re-

search, Lucknow specifically for the (at) whether Government are aware management of sugarcane ratoons, is of the demands made by the National being extended to State Sugarcane Association of Food Corporation Em- ployees towards the betterment of the Development Departments, Sugar various categories of the employees factories and farming community. of F.C.I.; and i o i Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers %02

t (b) if so, whether Government pro- the cyclone in Andhra Pradesh in late pose 16 consider introduction of pass- 1978; and book to employees for GPF/CPF ac- count; House rent allowance ® 15 per (b) the quantum of help given by cent on immediate basic pay instead the Centre to the State Government of on time scale and construction of for the purpose? staff quarters for all the staff with preference to low income group em- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- ployees at the places wherever F.C.I. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI is having its owned depot? SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a> Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- (b) An advance Plan assistance of TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Rs. 3.53 crores was sanctioned to the SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) State Government for meeting the and (b). The Corporation situation created by the cyclone. have reported that the ques- Short-term loan of Rs. 8.00 crores tion of introduction of pass- was also sanctioned for purchase and books for category IV employees con- distribution of agricultural inputs tributing to CPF/GPF was examined viz. fertilizers, seeds and pesticides. and it was decided that the issue of The State Government had the mar- monthly pay-slips to the employees gin money of Rs. 4.31 crores also for indicating details of salary and re- meeting situation arising out of coveries made therefrom would be a natural calamities during 1976-77. better alternative. Annual statements of CPF/GPF are also being issued to the employees individually. Arrangement for teaching Urdu in primary schools After careful consideration, the re- 1851. SHRI BASHIR AHMAD: Will vised rates of house rent allowance the Minister of EDUCATION, SO- payable to the emplyees were pres- CIAL WELFARE AN") CULTURE be cribed in April, 1976. There is no pleased to state: proposal under Government’s consi- deration at present to revise these (a) whether Government are aware rates again. that there are no arrangements for teaching Urdu even in primary schools As regards construction of staff for children who want to learn in quarters for all the staff with prefer- their mother tongue, Urdu; ence to low income group employees at the places where Food Corporation (b) whether there are no teachers of India is having its own depots, it. in Urdu and no books in Urdu are may bCj stated that this is not at pre- available in such schools; sent feasible on account of other (c) what is the policy of Govern- higher priority demands on the re- ment in regard to Urdu language; and sources of the Corporation. (d) what steps Government propose to take tc encourage Urdu? Central aid to cyclone affected Andhra Pradesh THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 1850. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE DER): (a) and (b). Education is pri- AND IRRIGATION be pleased to marily a State subject and according state: to the reports available with the Mi- nistry of Education, adequate facili- (a) whether the Andhra Pradesh ties are available for teaching Urdu Government has approached the Cen- at the primary level in most of the tre for help to the farmers affected by States and Union Territories, for ex- 103 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 104

ample, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Karna- (c) The World Bank has approved taka, Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, the fishing harbours at Veraval and Rajasthan’, Gujarat, West Bengal, Mangrol at a total cost of Rs. 12.60 Madhya Pradesh, Tamil Nadut Me- crores. ghalaya and Union Territories of Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Goa, (d) While Neendakara fishing har- Daman and Diu and Delhi. Both bour will be considered under a Urdu teachers and books for teaching National plan, the proposal for a Urdu are also available in these fishing harbour at Vizhinjom is being schools. referred to the World Bank. (c) Government’s policy is to pro- mote all languages including Urdu. Soil erosion caused by Ram Ganga (d) The Government have taken river several steps to promote Urdu through 1853. SHRI MAHI LAL: Will the such organisations as Taraqi-e-Urdu Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Board, National Book Trust, Sahitya IRRIGATION be pleased to state: Akademi. Assistance is also being rendered to the voluntary Urdu orga- (a,) whether Central Government nisations. Urdu teachers are also had conducted a survey for protecting being trained in Regional Training Muradabad City from soil erosion Centres established at Solan and caused by Ram Ganga river in Mura- Patiala by the Government of India. dabad district in Uttar Pradesh; and (b) if so, the details thereof and Development of fishing harbour the progress achieved so far in this regard? 1852. SHRI B. K. NAIR: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- IRRIGATION be pleased to state: TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (a) whether the Government are SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) aware that the fishing harbours in and (b). The State Government has the country are inadequate to meet informed that a scheme costing Rs. 30 the demands of the fishing industry lakhs was prepared for protection of in the country; Muradabad town from erosion by the Ramganga River. This scheme was (h) if so, stops taken to develop the considered by the Chief Engineers fishing harbours in the country; Committee in its meeting held in (c) whether the world Bank assis- April, 1974 who opined that because tance has been taken for it and if so, of the storage created by the cons- to what extent; and truction of the dam on Ram Ganga River at Kalagarh, the flood intensity (d) the projects in Kerala included of the river at Muradabad was ex- to the World Bank assistances? pected to be much reduced during flood season. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Hostels for working men and Women SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes, Sir. 1854. SHRI BALDEV SINGH JAS- ROTHA; Will the Minister of WORKS (b) Sanctions have been issued for AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND construction of fishing harbours at REHABILITATION be pleased to state: fifteen sites besides provision of landing and berthing facilities in (a) how many hostels are there in about 70 fishing centres. the country, State-wise for providing 105 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 106

residential accommodation to work- Chairman, I.I.T. ing men and women; 1855. DR. SUBRAMANIAM (b) if the reply be in the nagative, SWAMI: Will the Minister of EDU- is there any proposal for construc- CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND tion of such hostels this year; and CULTURE be pleased to state:

(c) if the reply be in the affirma- (a) whether he. made a statement tive, whether there is any plan for in Madras that he had asked an I.I.T. Chairman to resign; providing funds or grants for the construction of more such hostels, (b) whether the Government have State-wise, during the year 1977-78? a prima fade case against this chair- man; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (c) if so, the nature of the charges HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- against the Chairman; and HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (d) the name of the Chairman, or BAKHT): (a) State-wise, the number the I.I.T. of which he is Chairman? of hostels in the general pool of ac- commodation for working men and THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE women is as under:— (DR. FRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER); (a) Yes, Sir. Number Number of of (b) to (d). It would not be in the combined hostels public interest to disclose informa- h stels exclusi ely tion at this stage. for for working working men women and women TOT

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(b) and (c). One hostel with §TTT tT^r suites is under construction at Cal- ^ SHfllT, if ^^ft^PTT % cutta. During the current year, there 3?T^ 1 1 974 156 is a proposal, not yet sanctioned, for *t>*0 ^ — n i *il ui Si <31 t the construction of one hostel with 11 8 rT«TT 5*37 % 38 72 suites in Bombay and ons hostel with about 176 suites in New Delhi. JT^TPT I 107 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 108

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TOT % «T*T ftlJT % Alfa"* 4 |m|<1I«() % l%(T *jw tRrrftr % ¥7 ^ sritft ^ frot 2R faffr *Ft pT^TT | I 'SftPF 70 JTfa*m 5PTT 30 Mfa^m fafa^r wnmr iftawwt ?rk *n w ff ?T^?T*T % JF*T if Afid ^ ^ I % tnftpp erfe% w rk **ft cn^, %?ff STTT TF5TPTPT if «JK lf\T f^ T 5TR fl^fkrT oJTpWqf t^iFTR % ftror |g fw^r ^r % ?t «fw?n »; iTRr % ffftFT f^TT^T srfH*T"ff ^ 1 5TTT *T m f t t fr*TW tfft trnfH tfTTRTR fTT ^5K SffW TTvmTpr if wfiTfPT TOSpif spt 1TRTRT % 11 f ^ f t SWfcT ^FT?R, ^TWiR, MhM TT cM1)5t>H MI 1T3WT, 'TT7fh", 5mj4<, STMR, TT^ft, ^TV ^ ^TT fT?^ ^T 5PTTH P»>mi ^Idl ( f % W TO iRPm ?nTr ftmr 1 ^ft q?^7^ | i vnmr pr?ff % w ^r % qr^ % sfkr^, v j ^ r ir 5 iw r i i 2 *rni q fw ff if ir 31 *rN\ ^ ?n ^ f % |?t srnftf^TT trfkqhnmt 1977 cTT 71.06 5T1W s 9irf*^r I , rmi ^ w r r % f ^ f i *TT I if 117.25 ?rnj ^qtr ^ si^rrf^cr TOT % ?TRWT *Ft *Tf «ff I ?FTRT, TTarFfH % «TR HVPT9T m f i r o TT3TWR % ^lilW rm TfWFft ftrrt ir rRi Rrwrf, 1857. «ft y i5UI j m r *ftHH : «n^)M«i, ^rnftor #^ t t ?nf? ftrr ftra rf 3cn% ^•TJT STOTT VTCff % fwrr ^ T t T^wfhr fiTT ^>T % f q^FTT % TtTR 1U M W W % iTrmcT 5 T W 14.43 ^Ttr (fr) %?S H TnTPTFT % «TR sqw f¥rr nrr ^ | ^ElM R % ftRTO % fo r ftrfta t t t if 11 r-iH i if S^PTcTT $t $ ; «rk q-^ 9 f w f ^ f gW5T^T + l4^ (*j) W ?T rR? f+H m , % sRnrcT f^nrr ^ptt ^ 1 m^«r, q^«in Mflifa % 4cj^K, %Tfta ftrfrf ?raT ^ r t ^ r W , vnfh»r, «^nrrr farfw (qsjla^><^i cPTT ^1% 109 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 ( SAKA) Written Answers n o

ifefi if snr ?nmR « w f % »T | T *lft » lf I W* 1976-77 % f^tr *rerrarf R% ?mr 9000 if TOIT| *nrr ^ t ^ tt, w k q f i *n*i?r ftnrra- % f ^ 105.30 $>TT, TTfrf^T OTTO ^RTT I ?qtr «PT si^fur «rr i ^ 1977-78 % 4>i4 ^ gfFr t m qft W N t f?nr + i 4 ^ I 5 afTTTftr if yrfrcai T^Tir i irerfq 164. 50 ^ttt ^ 1 q- f^ «r swc v r o v r P*iHi if ^ r STTT cTCTt % $ , eft «ft ^fm»r 87 ?TRT ^ % jfY vaai ^ I Mi^41 m'I'j iHI '3,m* cT^TT ^<111* ^fVr 'd»l4>l 3W 1977— ^PlWI'T f^FTCT % f^T T tf ifhSHTT WTfiM 78 if 115 ?nw q ? t t 5r^n?r| i J^f T f Vf «ft I OTrf'T, qfapTT S F ffr *T %«TW TT^TPT *f«||U|| 5W (ii) q fa ^ ft Tnr?*TH f ^rsr^n^ JplTTrT % TTSqt % fax* *ft t t f^r*rTw ' sft iftfr qr f^TR TT t 5ftT nrrm r, ^fteig.T 3«rr #*TR ?RTR % 17.6.77 Tt Wfar ^o % ^niWI»ft M l if 13 ^PrwM farrer ir ?r^fajw 9TTfiT5r | I m 1975-76 % ^TR SRT 3qRT if £ mfw I :— 288,380 Wa’ Tt ^T3TT | ( i ) ;Tfr sifa if ftrs* fftT 1976-77 % Z\T\H ( ^ f f sh> m^rfzpT?T ’Tfw^rm- % s p % 1977 cH>) 261,831 if ^TFTr 5IT T^T ^ f d w fT W T I \ i Ti5r «tt*t qfw tsr^r W TW^T Tf JT^T *T? if t — ^ o ^ 396 TTtf ^qtr f TT [*•*( rTi % HIf( I* |?ndfT?ftqFT — 176 qrrt? ^ a«n 3TT cTSTRtT^, *T?T % f W ^ WeTTTt^ & * c ^frmr n — 220 ^d? ^qq 1 q;T^ft, ^ ciT 161.37 T T lf ^ m^RT % fat> TT3JFTR ?^T W5T % arc ntr | I ?T7t^T Tt tTT qt5RT SFPftfef Tt »Tf *fr I 1974-75 % ? k R 950 ■\f^TT vr aRTlqvr w*n 3000 (iii) ^R?«n?r | ^ q r if ^«r!TT % fatT ^TrRfi flJT f^T q- rr^% ^-. if q’TThW # TT%

W^T% % fafira fwi if faajlfw # 3TFt *T*ft fW 174 'sM«i«w f*FTT in' faf^TT 5 R R ST^TTfacT rTPRT It 83 faf^nr trhc t o r i Tfkyhm J ^ W M Tmr % 11 y ^RrTpft TT VRNiTT ^Tlt. 1974 % ^ JTUT «TT I 1974-75 % ? H h gram if ^T J?T ^TT^T 11.590 ^TPsT

W Tfartsm it ?rren, fVdR+i ^ ^nrr 1975-76 it 29. 605 ?rra w t ^r^fr ^ n t 9hnT, Z* «TT | ^ 1976-77 ^ ^ft ?rs^f ^r f^mfw, ^TTfr^T, t t f t *r?r STT^fW rHTT ^FT-^TO' f a w VII | I JT^TT *pt ^T^TT *ntft rT3> ^ c T ^ j TTSTF^TR 'ti^is 5TW fq«nl^ I I mR*T|Ji'TT ^ *TRxT *K+k (TRT ^TtfirT *r«j

131.55* 75.00 (b) whether Government have in- vestigated such complaints; and

(c) if so, the steps taken to supply TT5FWR ^flf*T fq>nH reasonably good quality to the con- sumers? f w r ^ w fW t qrsft *r w *rf sRTTf^r srrfiTw •r^tt • THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) (5.V) «nT it to (c). There have been some com- : *TTT T fW R it plaints from time to time about the smrrra

Plants for Production of Inorganic Fer- of Mechanical Compost Plants and tilisers and Organic Manure Sewage & Sullage projects is pro- 1 vided. Similarly, subsidy for setting 1859. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDA- up of Gobar Gas Plants to the extent RAM: Will the Minister of AGRI- of 25 per cent on smaller plants, 20 CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be per cent on bigger plants, 33 per cent pleased to state: on Community Plants and 50 per cent on plants set up in hilly and tribal (a) whether there are any concer- areas is also being given directly to ted plans, for production of inorganic farmers. fertilisers and organic manure; (c) It is planned to set up 35 me- (b) the modus operandi of scheme, chanical compost plants in big cities if any, to lay greater emphasis on use during the Plan 'period. Of these, of organic manure; two plants have already been com- (c) the progress achieved in setting missioned and 17 more plants have up mechanical compost plants; and been sanctioned which are in various stages of progress. (d) the progress achieved in chemi- cal treatment of sewage effluents? (d) It is proposed to implement 250 projects in various cities/towns THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- to utilise sewage/sullage for irrigation TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI and manurial purposes during the SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Plan period. Of these, 210 projects Yes, Sir. * are already in operation/under im- plementation. (b) An integrated scheme for the development of Local Manurial Re- sources has been taken up under the Capital of Assam Central Sector during the 5th Five Year Plan with a total outlay of 1860. SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI Rs. 16.54 crores with the following BARKATAKI- Will the Minister of components: WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION (1) Setting up of mechanical be pleased to state: compost plants; (2) Sewage/sullage utilisation; (a) whether the Committee to select site for permanent Capital of (3) Setting up of Gobar , Gas Assam has submitted its report; Plants; (b) if so,, what are the recommen- (4) Demonstration-cum-training dations of the Committee for Capital camps; site; and

(5) Award of prizes to gram (c) whether any amount is being Panchayats/local bodies for sanctioned for Capital’s construction doing best composting work; (temporary or permanent) in Assam by the Centre? (6) Pilot scheme for compost making by landless labourers. THE MINISTER OF WORKS All the above measures are being AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY implemented through the State AND REHABILITATION (SHRI Governments. In order to make SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. available to farmers organic fertilisers (b) It is not in public interest to at cheaper rates, 33 per cent Central disclose the recommendations of the subsidy on capital cost for setting up Expert Committee. Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers n 6

(c) The Central Govt, had assured establish Air Pollution monitoring the Government ot Assam of financial units in Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, assistance upto Rs. 25 crores, 50 per Bangalore and Ahmedabad. However, cent by way of loan for the construc- the National Environmental JLngine- ering Research Institute, Nagpur, has tion of new Capital. a national air quality programme in In July, 1972, the State Government these cities. Here, two parameters viz., came up for Central assistance of Rs. sulphur dioxide and particulate matter 5 crores towards construction of a tem- are studied fortnightly at selected sites porary capital at Dispur. The request for research purposes. of the State Government was agreed to on the basis that this amount would (b) No proposal has been made by be part of overall assistance of Rs. the National Environmental Engineer- 25 crores, and it was also stipulated ing Institute. that the buildings etc. to be construc- (c) Government hope to introduce ted at Dispur should be designed for the Air Pollution Bill soon. permanently accommodating those offi- ces of the State Government the loca- Contingency Plans for Flood Relief tion of which was not necessary at the State Capital. 1862. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND An amount of Rs. 3.5 crores has al- IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ready been released to the State Gov- ernment. The request of the State (a) whether Central Government Government for the balance amount propose to formulate any contingency ^f Rs. 1.5 crores is dependent on the plans for flood relief in natural cala- mities; receipt of the audited statement of ac- tual expenditure. (b) if so, broad outlines thereof; and Air Pollution Bill (c) the amount Central Govern- ment have sanctioned for the pur- 1861. DR VASANT KUMAR PAN- pose? DIT; Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT REHABILITATION be pleased to state; SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). Flood (a) the arrangements made by relief and other operations in natural Government to establish Air Pollu- calamities are with effect from the 1st tion monitoring units in Delhi, Bom- April, 1974 financed and administered bay, Calcutta, Bangalore and Ahmed- by the State Governments through abad; their own resources and the margin money annually available with them (b) whether proposals made by the as recommended by the Sixth Finance NEERI (National Environmental En- Commission. When any State Govern- gineering Research Institute) are ment requires additional funds to meet under consideration of Government; the situation caused by natural calami- and ties, it approaches the Central Govern- (c) when Government propose to ment for Advance Plan Assistance bring forward the Air Pollution Bill? based on a Memorandum which is co-n sidered by a Central Team and a High, THE MINISTER OF WARKS AND powered Committee. Schemes of flood HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- protection, drainage etc., are to the BILITATION ): (SHRI SIKAN- extent possible covered by the Plan DAR BAKHT): (a) No ar- provisions of the State /Government. rangements have so far been The Central Government in May, 1976 made by the Government of India to issued guidelines to the States for pre- 117 Written Answers A SA D fiA 6, 1899 ( SAKA) Written Answers n 8

paring contingency plans for dealing *r$r t w t (waff) witji natural disasters. The guidelines included having a High-powered ^ fippft TT % ftpj ?*T Standing Committee at the State head- quarters under he Chairmanship of the ir £ ? Chief Secretary and other concerned Secretaries and the local Sub Area tit* wtort ?t*t Commander as members. The Com- yrafa (sft iw) : (^r) mittee is to draw up detailed plans for dealing with situations arising out of 'T^lf I ( floods, cyclones, earthquake etc. The Engineering authorities are to survey (>j) STTWm % all flood control works and to warn the High-powered Standing Committee % Pitc and the concerned Distr;ct~level Com- mittee if there is a likelihood of the ^ tT^T gfxtrhHI TfcTTC failure of any of the existing works. The guidelines also included advice for distribution in advance, of duties and ^nfr?T f w I responsibilities for rescue and relief work, for advance stockpiling of essen- +■0^ i ’tt?t /Snr srrf? tial supplies and equipments including boats, dry rations, fuel, essential com- % arrt ir Treta % munications equipment, bleaching pow- der, first aid kits, medicines, sand bags, s n r f j^ | i lanterns, pumps, cranes, utensils etc. Officiating Assistant Engineers, Class II The plans are also to include requisi- tioning of Government as well as pri- L864. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH vately owned trucks, setting up of a MALIK: Will the Minister of WORKS control room when a disastrous situa- AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND tion actually develops daily meeting of REHABILITATION be pleased to state the High-powered Standing Committee, the number of Assistant Engineers flood forecasting and flood warning C.E.S. Class II and C.E.E.S. Class II system and the training of the staff. in C.P.W.D. who are officiating in that grade for more than 20 years as on the first April, 1977 more than 15 years but less than 20 years and more than 10 years but less than J5 years separa- wrV iRT tely for civil and Electrical?

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 1863. «ft arm : HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION (SHRI SIK- tot Pwfar sftr t o t ANDAR BAKHT): As on 1st April, 1977, 22 Assistant En- : gineers. C.E.S., Class II and 1 Assistant Engineer C.E.E.S., Class II were offi- ( ^ ) TOT sftT ciating in the grade for more than 20 years; 138 civil engineers and 12 elec- ir «\ qcsrr: mzft ^ ^ rm r trical engineers were officiating in the STCtTTC s m r % Gm k i - grade for more than 15 years but less than 20 years; and 379 civil engineers «fr?T t ; tftr and 56 electrical engineers were offi- ciating in the grade of Assistant En- (u) fUT TOT # gineer for more than 10 years but | fa *r^?r sn% less than 15 years. Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers

Officers ob Bolls in Central P.W.D. 1865. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH faw srfaan w m n smrc ft ? MALIK: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be pleased to state the total number of officers in Central irmHT) : (*) Public Works Department on rolls for more than 15 years but less than 20 1976-77 % ^TR % ^ years and more than 10 years but less snfr **ft *rf | than 15 years on the 1st April, 1977 separately for Civil and Electricals? ( cf+siTm) ^ 1 976 V, *Tf 3?t «ft THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- JT BAKHT); The total number of officers IT

STFT % *r*«r*tr it, — sni f C'vil Electrical Art hi tec- Horticul- ture ture 2914 f^W+1 »li*l ci*!?! ?nf f €t 1444 f^T^T ’Tl’ T “T^t” 762 37 33 11 ttstt tot I, 7 7 *i *rrft *rt *Ti 1 1 qq 1 976-77 The total number of officers in Cen- fVrf^TT (el+yiTT) % CTR ^ tral Public Works Department on rolls fa^TT wrf f Z\ wrf f & for more than 10 yoars but less than — 2222, 15 years on the 1st April, 1977 is as 2795, W Ttf# 3356,%ITii€t 4109 under:—

1934 46O 90 26 (»?) % w ftrarf it ?rr!TT"jR^ f^ *n ^t h^ m qfrem n iftm i ^ »rf ng iftr «t r vt 3rr«ft% srran ^ ^t ^idt ^ i irf^ v tt 1866. I «ppt fsrfar ftwrfrwp WT f a « l i TT^t cTrTT^r cfTT^T I rft *TT +^1 f% : % ^ (*?) 1976-77 % % ^Rft Jj ^ r<*4i 1 1 c m s t r ^ t f ^ r iT?t q fe m t % vrtftrftr % rrm ?fr Op^Ji JTP*TT f% I in Tamil Na'du or with State Ground (w:) «rrt=ftftnr | at variance without mutual consulta- tion; and (m) st^tRtct f w f i ^ ?rt *r (c) whether the Government would ?fk % WrtTR «TT ^•TfiT ?*TR assure that their exploration will be- V nefit the agriculturists to indicate the correct places in which tube wells/ ffer *k fa*Tf («ft fTWttT filter points could be profitably loca- fffj w w m ) : (fr) *rrcfrr frfa ted? fl-TffSTM *T?*TH ?«TTO, fa&Tt THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT ili IPTT 1-869. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDARAM: t > Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ( g ) 3rft ^ sfk >ror, AND IRRIGATION be pleased to sfate: pjnr^r fasra, ^ tft unfair (a) whether there is a stalemate/ *rr q-#"j I, q? fa^ff *r dispute in regard to method of bring- ing Krishna water to Madras city ifl>T^r$r * srfa^ ^ c n ; ttI 1 1 between various State Governments; fa**r 2 5 -^ 5 *mfnr # f and (b) if so, whether Government of ^•qr JTift ^r ^ 1 1 ftra India will speed up the settlement and fw fT ^ r m fa^m fann jtot | t take up the execution without delay? *rtft jrrjrm if 3 ? v*z | 3% fa ^ THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE q^TfR: I, ^TTFT ^HTapTT | AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). The fasm A ^TSf jf alternative proposals drawn up by the f^?^«TcTr JTf^rT ^ STr^trTiT | I Government of Tamil Nadu for trans- 123 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 124

fer of 15 thousand million cubic feot (a) whether anomalies exist in of Krishna waters to Madras City are designation and scale of pay in the at present being examined by the Go- different categories of industrial em- vernments of Andhra Pradesh, Karna- ployees of Saw Mill Division, Cha- taka and Maharashtra. These proposals tham, (Andaman & Nicobar Islands); will be examined at an Inter-State if so, whether a Committee was cons- meeting to be held as soon ’as the com- tituted by the Andaman Forest De- ments of the three States are received, partment and the recommendations with a view to selecting an appro- of the Committee submitted to the priate scheme. Government of India; (b) if so, decision taken to end the Scooter Garages for Quarters said anomalies; and constructed at Indira Nagar, Madras (c) when it is expected to be fina- 1870. SHRI S.D. SOMASUNDARAM. lised? Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND STJPPLY AND RE- THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT HABILITATION be pleased to state: SINGH BARNALA): (a) The Andaman (a) whether scooter garages have Forest Department constituted a Com- not s0 far been provided for Central mittee in November, 1974 to go into Government quarters constructed at the working, with particular reference Indira Nagar, Madras; to the anomalies, if any, in the designa- (b) if so, the reasons for the delay tion and pay scales of the workers on in providing the same; and the industrial establishment, of the (c) whether the Government will Chatham Saw Mill Division. The Com- assure t0 provide the same before the mittee has recommended redesignalion rainy season? . of certain existing posts, creation of additional posts snd creation of new THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND posts which do not exist in the Anda- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- man Forest Department. HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT); (a) No, Sir. (b) and(c): The matter is still under consideration of the Government, as it (b) When these quarters were sanc- requires detailed examination from fi- tioned and take up for construction, nancial and administrative pngles. there was no decision for construc- tion of scooter garages and, therefore, scooter garages have not been provi- Remunerative Price for Sugarcane ded. There is, therefore, no ques- and Jaggery tion of any delay. 1872. SHRI P. THIAGARAJAN; Will (c) Government would consider, on the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND merits, requests for provision of IRRIGATION be pleased to state: scooter garages if made by a fair (a) whether Government are aware the upper storey quarters. It may that in the absence of a clear cut po- not be possible to provide these licy for fixing a remunerative price scooter garages before the rainy sea- for sugarcane and jaggery, the grow- son. ers are at the mercy of merchants who get it at throw away prices; Pav Scales of Employees of Saw Mill (b) if so, whether Government pro. Division, Andaman and Nicobar pose to introduce a system of remu- Islands nerative price for sugarcane and its 1871. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- products in the interests of economic TA: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- viability of the agriculturists; and TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased (c) the salient features of such a to state: proposal, if any? 125 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 1 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (d) whether the development of AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT these areas has not yet been comple- SINGH BARNALA:) (a) to (c): The ted and whether Government propose Central Govt. Axes the statutory mini- tp fcive interest to those allottees from mum price of sugarcane payable by v 10m the full payment was realised f each sugar factory for eacji sugar n ore than a year back upto the period season under the Sugarcane (Control) when the development work is com- Order, 1966. In addition growers are plete? entitled to 50 per cont of excess reali- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND sation from the sale of non-levy sugar, HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- for the sugarancane supplied by them, BILITATION [(SHRI SIKANDAR under clause 5A of the above Order. BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. Full amount However, in practice, State Govern- of the premium nas been realised irom ments intervene and advise the price those, who have tc>ken possession of payable by sugar factories in the State the plots. for the season. These State-advised (b) Yes, Sir. prices are much higher than the sum of the statutory minimum price and 50 (c) Land is to be allotted to low per cent share of excess realisations Income Group persons at predetermin- as mentioned above. It is, therefore, ed rates and Government c.gree that generally not necessary to invoke the every effort should be made to reduce orovisions of clause 5A of the Order. land costs by keeping the cost of deve- lopment under control. There is no price control on jaggery c r sugarcane supplied to jaggery manu- (d) Development of these areas is factures. Jaggery being a cottage in- in progress and is likely to be com- dustry it is not desirable to introduce pleted in about two years’ time. Nr* any system of price controls. Since decision about the payment of inter- jaggery manufacturers very often ope- est has yet been taken. rate in areas covered by sugar mills, Accommodation for Working Girls in they have to pay competitive prices, comparable to those p^id by sugar Y.W.C.A. mills, in order to draw enough cane 1874. SHRI SHEO SAMPAT: Will for manufacture of jaggery. the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased Shalimar Bagh and Pitanipura to state: Residential Schemes (a) whether accommodation is pro- vided to working girls in the Y.W.C.A.; 1873. SHRI SHEO SAMPAT; Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- (b) if so, what are the terms of the ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI- allotment of accommodation to work- TATION be pleased to state: ing girls in Y.W.C.A. (a) whether the Delhi Development (c) the grant Government provided Authority had allotted plots of land annually to Y.W.C.A. and control it to low income group people in Shali- exercises over its management; mar Bagh and Pitampura residential (d) whether lie is aware that the schemes in early 1976 and had also present management of Y.W.C.A. have realised the full amount of the same; illegally served notices on certain (b) whether 84 sq. meter plots were working girls to vacate the accommo- allotted @ Rs. 96/- per meter; dation; and (c) whether in view of the income (e) if so, the reasons for such an of the low income group people this illegal act on the part of management price is not on the higher side and if of Y.W.C.A.; and the action taken or so, the reaction of Government there- proposed to be taken by the Govern- to; and ment? 127 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 128

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, State Government is calculated in ac- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE cordance with the provisions of Land ) 'Hi 1 +Y9 % fift1 (c) whether Government have fixed any standard purchase price for vacant plots in Delhi (Punjabi Bagh) snrra f e n s h t or a seller is not to know the p ice before giving written notice for ^ale (m ) rft frFT of land and be must accept whatever snjrta | wr f, price the collector awards, as a final verdict? *rnT^ ^ q SFTT apt | ? THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR yP? *Vr ftwrf irft («ft gnita BAKHT): (a ): Yes, Sir. WT5rmr) : (b): No, Sir. As per the provisions of section 26(2) of the Urban Land (t) jft ft 1 (Ceiling and Regulation) Act, 1976, the («■) f ^ 'n price to be offered for the land propo- sed to be purchased on behalf of the *r * I' 1 129 Written Answers ASADHA 8, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers tjo

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Sugar ( quota to Shareholders of Sugar State Governments for fabrication of Factory small size metal bins for being made available to farmers on easy credit 1877. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: basis; this improves the holding capa- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE city of the farmers. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: Steps for Growth of Wild Life (a) the quantity of sugar supplied to the State of Andhra Pradesh 1879. SHRI UGRASEN: Will the during last one year; and Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (b) whether any quota of sugar is given to the shareholders of sugar (a) whether wild life is shrinking factories at controlled rate? in the country; (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT (c) the steps taken for the survival, SINGH BARNALA): (a) Andhra safety and growth of wild life in the Pradesh Slate is being allotted a country? monthly quota of levy sugar of 14,145 4 tonnes. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT (b) No, Sir. SINGH1 BARNALA): (a) and (b). While certain species of wildlife appear to be shrinking on account of loss cf Staying Power of Farmer habitat through growing population and developmental pressures, a number 1878. SHRI SASANKASEK1IAR SAN- of other wildlife species have increased YAL: Will the Minister of AGRICUIr- as a result of various protective TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased measures taken in recent years. to stale the steps being 1aken by the Government or are under their con- (c) Some of the important measures sideration with a view to equipping taken in recent years for ihe survival, the producers of agricultural crops safety and growth of wildlife in the with staying power so as to ensure country are as follows: — that they are not compelled to sur- ‘ (1) With the enactment of the render to distress sale? Wildlife (Protection) Act in 1972, which has now been adopted by all THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE but two States, snccial legal protec- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT tion has been given to *he endangered ISINGH BARNALA): The warehouses species from exploitation and string- set-up under the Warehousing Corpo- ent punishment provided for in- rations Act, 196?, by the Central and fringement of the provisions of the the State Warehousing Corporations ensure availability of scientific ware- Act. housing facilities for the benefit, (2) Export trade of most of the amongst others, of producers and save threatened species has bt • :n cun- them from making distress sale, by t rolled, particularly sine- India providing credit on the pledge of the became a party in 1970 to the Con- stocks of agricultural commodities etc. vention on International Trrnde in covered by the warehouse receipts. Endangered Snecies of Wild Fauna 2. Under the Save Grain Campaign and Flora. scheme launched by Government ol India, simple but effective techniques (3) The habitat in which wildlife of preservation and storage of lood- can prosper is being increased by grains are made known to the farmers, constituting larger areas as national through training, demonstration, publi- parks and sanctuaries where all city etc. Loans are also advanced to possible protection it being afforded 135 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers

to Wildlife. The “Project Tiger” has THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE been launched in nine selected habi- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT tats to afford protection to this SINGH BARNALA); (a) No, Sir. threatened species.

(4) For ensuring effective an 1 (b) The approximate estimated num- scientific management of sanctuaries, ler of elephants in the country are national parks and other wildlife 10,000 and rhinoceros are 700. areas, separate wiHJife wings witaii. the Forest Departr.ierts are being (c) The following steps h*ve been established in all States and Union taken to ensure their protection . Territories. (i) Both the elephants and the rhinoceros are included in the Wild Ban on Hunting of Wild Animals Life (Protection) Act^ 1972, afford- ing them strict protection. 1880. SHRI UGRASEN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (ii) Both the rhinoceros and the IRRIGATION be pleased to state; elephant are included in Appendix I of the Convention on International (a) whether Government propose to Trade in Endangered Species of Wild put a total ban on hunting of certain Fauna and Flora, which strictly species of wild animals lest these regulate international trade in both might become extinct; and these species. (b) if so, the action taken in this (iii) A national Park at Kaziranga regard? and Lakhawa Sanctuary in Assam THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE and a Sanctuary in Jaldapara in AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT West Bengal have been constituted SINGH BARNALA): (a) anti (b). The to provide all possible protection to Wildlife (Protection) Act, 1972 pro\iries the habitat of the rhinoceros. for a total han on the hunting of such Elephants also receive protection m wild animals and birds specified in such reserves as the Corbett National Schedule I to the Act which are con- Park in Uttar Pradesh, Manas Sanc- sidered to be endangered. tuary in Assam, Mudumalai Sanc- tuary in Tamil Nadu, Palamau National Park in Bihar, Periyar Sanctuary in Kerala, etc. Steps to save Elephants and Rhino- ceros in the Country rrarwrrc % ftw n f «rt ftrn 1881. SHRI UGRASEN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND 1 882* *ft5T HTH TO* : WT IRRIGATION be pleased to state: sftr ftrsnf w t f TTT (a) whether elephants and rhino- ceros are struggling hard for survival and due to poaching these are be- ( * ) 1975- coming extinct; 76 % % fon t 'll (b) the approximate number of fWfer sV | elephants and rhinoceros in the coun- try; and («r) irfw TTsrwT’T £ fcpr*!' * 1976-77 ^ *T>3PTT- (c) the steps taken to save them from extinction? ?TTT, fv^RT ^ ? 137 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 138

ftranf («ft graftal THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT ftr^r w m i ) : (^ ) SINGH BARNALA): (a) and

EHorts are continuing for a correct THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE diagnosis of the disease. The associa- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT tion of a virus has been suspected for SINGH BARNALA)) (a) Yes, Sir. The some years. Recently, the association first Agricultural Census was conducted of bacteria and nematode with the in the country with the Agricultural; roots of the diseased palms has also year 1970-71 (July 1970—June 1971) as been demonstrated. Intensive investi- the reference year. The primary unit 4 gations are in progress at the Kayan- for data collection was the operational gulam station of the Central Plantation holding. Data were collected on the Crops Research Institute in Kerala for essential characteristics of agricultural establishing the correct identily of the paihogen. holdings viz. (i) Number and size dis- tribution of operational holdings (ii) Land Utilisation, (iii) Area under (b) The Indian Council of Agricul- crops, (iv) Area irrigated cropwise and tural Research has strengthened the source wise and (v) Tenancy parti- .Central Plantation Crops Research culars. The current Agricultural Institute’s Regional Station at Kayan- Census is being conducted on sample gulam to tackle the problem from survey basis with Agricultural year every possible angle. The Central 1976-77 (July 1976-77) as the reference Plantation Crops Research Institute year. has identified certain hybrids between (b) and (c). Do not arise. Dwarf and Tall varieties which are relatively much less susceptible to the Amount spent on A.I.C.C. Delegates by disease. Pilot projects for rejuvenation Vice-Chancellor of Punjab University of diseased plantations have been 1888. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: launched jointly by the Central and State Governments by planting healthy SHRI BHAGAT RAM: coconut seedlings of improved varieties. Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: Impact of Land Holding (a) whether the Vice-Chancellor, 1887. SHRI D. B. CHANDRA Punjab University, Chandigarh has GOWDA: Will the Minister of AGRI- spent Rs. 20000/- for the physical CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be well being of AICC delegates out of pleased to state; the University budget money for 1976-77 meant for medical facilities for the University staff and students; (a) whether Government have un- dertaken any survey in collaboration (b) whether the same has been with the State Governments to col- shown on page 71 of the printed bud- lect basic data on the number, ten- get paper of the said University; ure, status, irrigation, land utilisation (c) whether Prof. R. C. Paul, Vice- and cropping pattern of holdings of Chancellor of the University got a different sizes; three years extension on 24th March, 1977 just a day before the Janta Mini- (b) ii not, whether Government stry was sworn in; and propose to present Sample Census to reflect the impact of land ceiling and (d) if so, what steps the Govern- - thus provide more reattctic and up- ment propose to take in this matter? todate estimate of the holdings in different size groups, their cropping THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, pattern, irrigation etc. at the taluka SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE level; and (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): (a) and (b). According to the informa- (c) if so, the scheme of Govern- tion furnished by the Punjab Univer- ment in this regard? sity, the Chandigarh Administration M i Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers *42

advised the University to ensure THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE proper functioning of its Health Centre AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT during the AICC session in December, SINGH BARNALA); (a) Yes, Sir. 1975. As at that time, the stock of medicines was inadequate, the Univer- (b) and (c). It has been reported sity Office anticipated an additional that manufacturing firm in the USA requirement of Rs. 20,000 for purchase have voluntarily suspended its produc- of medicines. This requirement was tion. In any case the Registration shown in the budget document for Committee under the Insecticide Act 1976-77. Eventually, the personnel has decided not to register this chemi- and medicine for the Centre during the cal. Government have also initiated AICC Session were provided by the action to ban its use in India. Punjab Government. The Centre incurred an expenditure of less than Rs. 100 on medicines, which was later Procurement Price of Agricultural reimbursed by the Government of Punjab. In the Budget papers for Produce 1976-77 it was indicated by a footnote that the revised provision included 1890. SHRI P. THIACARAJAN: Will Rs. 20,000 to meet the cost of medi- the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND cines on AICC session. IRRIGATION be pleased to state:

(c) and (d). According to Section (a) the present policy of Govern- 10(2) of the Punjab University Act, ment in regard to the minimum and the term of office of the Vice-Chancellor maximum price of procurement of may be extended by the Chancellor agricultural produce especially rice; for such further periods, not exceeding three years at a time, as he may deem (b) whether Government is aware fit. In exercise of these powers, the of the hardships of agriculturists term of Prof. R. C. Paul, as Vice- caused by the offer of a very, low price Chancellor of the Punjab University, for procurement; which was due to expire on June 30, 1977, was extended by the Chancellor (c) the ranges of prices offered for a period of three years, vide during the last twelve months; and notification dated 24th March, 1977. (d) whether Government propose to Phoorel Pesticide enhance the price so as to ensure eco- nomic viability of agricultural ope- 1889. SIIRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: rations? Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to slate: THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (a) whether he is aware that use of AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT Phoorel (the trade name for leptophos SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). The which belongs to a class of poisons cal- procurement prices are fixed in respect led organophosphates). an American of paddy, rice, jowar, bajra, maize, made pesticide, is banned in the Uni- ragi and wheat. These prices are ted States and it is no longer welcome fixed after taking into account tile recommendations of the Agricultural in Egypt; Prices Commission, the views of the (b) whether be is also aware that Chief Ministers of States and the need this pesticide that caused paralysis to protect the interests of the producers among hundreds of water buffaloes in as well as the consumers. A statement Egypt is currently being manufactur- giving procurement prices for Kharif ed in Texas, US and offered for sale cereals for the marketing seasons in India; and 1975-76 and 1976-77 and for wheat for (c) if so, the Government’s reac- the marketing seasons 1976-77 and tion thereto? 1977-7C is attached. Written Answers JtJtJ® 27, 1977 Written Answ&r* 144

(d) The pricing policy for Rabi sized carriages pulled by a diesel cereals has already been announced on shunting engine used on the Kalka- the 12th April, 1977. The pricing Simia rail. The running of such a policy for Kharif cereals for 1977-78 train close to the enclosures did affect will be formulated during September- the alighting of migratory birds within October 1977 on the eve of the forth- the Delhi Zoo last winter and many coming Kharif marketing season. of the animals like the lion-tailed monkey, the spider monkey, the puma, Statement the elephant and the white tigers Price range of procurement/support appeared to be disturbed. There was prices of different foodgrains fixed by apprehension that such disturbance the Government of India for Kharif/ might ultimately affect breeding with- Rabi foodgrains for 1975-76 and 1976-77 in the Zoo. Migratory birds from East Kharif and 1976-77 and 1977-78 Rabi European countries and Siberia have seasons been regularly visiting the pond of the Delhi Zoological Park since 1961. With the introduction of the train (Rs. per quintal) within the Zoo, as against nearly 3,000 migratory birds which arrive by the A. Kharif foodgrains I975-'/6 19: 6-77 middle of October only about 25 alight- ed last October. After the train was stopped early last January about 1,000 Paddy 74 to 96 74 to 96 birds flocked into the Zoo. Rice 117 to 154 117 to 1 $4 (b) and (c). While available records Jowar, Bajra. Maive do not indicate prior consultation of and R?gi 74 74 acknowledged wildlife conservation B. Rabi foodgrains 1976-77 1977-78 experts about the effects of running of the train in the Zoo, on the basis of Wheat . 105 no subsequent advice received from such experts, the running of the zoo train was stopped from January, 1977. Train in Delhi Zoo

1891. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: WiU the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Permission for Fishing on Kerala. IRRIGATION be pleased to state: Coasts (a) whether the running of toy 1892. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: train in Delhi Zoo has harmful effect Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE and many of the rare species of birds AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: have already migrated from the Zoo if so, the facts thereof; (a) number of companies to whom Government have given permission (b) whether Government had not to use Kerala coast for fishing during consulted any experts about the eff- last three years and their names; ects of train running in the zoo; and (b) whether the Central Govern- (c) whether Government propose ment have taken note of the State to stop the running of trains in the Government’s proposal to improve zoo? fishing industry in Kerala;

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (c) whether Government have AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT given permission to the multinational SINGH BARNALA): (a) The train that corporations to participate in the fish- was introduced in the Delhi Zoological ing industry in India; and Park in August, 1976 was not n toy \ train but comprised almo«t normal (d) if so, the facts thereof? 145 Written Answers ASAfrttA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers x46

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (d) M/s. Union Carbide (India) Ltd*> AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT M/s. Britannia Biscuit Co. Ltd., M/s. SINGH BARNALA): (a) No company ITC Ltd., M/s. Cadbury Fry (India) in India has approached Government Ltd. and M/s. EID Parry Ltd. for permission to use Kerala Coast for [renamed as E.I.D. Parry (India) Ltd. fishing during the last three years, as from 29th April, 19761, have been sea fishing is not a licensable industry. issued letters of intent for the manu- No such permission has also been facture of processed marine products. granted to fishing companies abroad. Excepting M/s. Cadbury Fry (India) Pvt. Ltd., other companies were also (b) Yes, Sir. permitted to import trawlers. The (c) Yes, Sir. details are as follows:

Name of the company Annual processing capacities* No. of trawlers permi- permitted. tted for import.

1. M/s Union Carbide (India) Ltd. . Shrimp —5000 tonnes 2 other fishes —500 tonnes

2. M/s Briunn;a B»scuit Co., Ltd. . Frozen Sea- Foods. — 15399 tonnes Fish meal — 5400 tones 2

3. M/s ITC Ltd. • . . Processed marine — 9000 tons 2 products

4. EID Parry (India) Ltd. Do. — 4200 tons. 2

5. Cadbury Fry (India) Ltd. . . Do. — 3000 tons. N il

Setting up of Schools in Rural Areas THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 1893. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN; (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): Will' the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (a) As per Education Commission's be pleased to state: recommendations, primary schools will have to be set up within walking (a) whether Government propose to distance for the children. Walking forow the policy of the previous Gov- distance is normally taken as between ernment to set up schools for a radius of li Kms. in the rural areas; 1 to 2 kilometres. It is Government's policy to open schools in rural areas in (b) if so, how many schools were accordance with this norm. set up in 1974-75, 1975-76 and March, 1977 in rural areas; and (b) and (c). The information for these years is not available. However, (c) how many schools were opened as per Third All India Educational for girls and how many schools are Survey figures, 97 per cent of the having co-education during the above children of the age group 6— 11 has mentioned years and details thereof? already been covered. 147 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1971 Written Answers

Grants for Construction of Sports (c) the facilities provided by the Complex in State Capitals Government for the children belonging to Scheduled Tribes and other low-in- 1894. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will come group children? the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, to state: SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): (a) whether recently Central Gov- (a) A Statement is attached. ernment have sanctioned some amount for construction of sports complex in (b) About 700 School Book Banks State Capitals; are functioning in Karnataka. (b) if so, the outlines regarding the (c) Mid-day meals, free uniforms, distribution of this grant to the States; free textbooks and stationery, attend- ance scholarships, scholarships for (c) whether Government have given rural bright students, pre and post- encouragement by increasing the grant matric scholarships, etc. are some of for construction of open and indoor the main facilities provided by Govern- stadia and swimming pools also; ment for children belonging to and Scheduled Tribes and other low-income group children. In addition to this, (d) if so, the facts thereof? Book Banks facilities are also available to '.hem. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE S ta tem en t (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): (a) No, Sir. SI. Name of the State/ No. of (b) Does not arise. No. Union Territory Bcok Banks (c) Yes, Sir. 1. Andhra Pradesh . 3?333 (d) Under the scheme of financial assistance to State Governments/State 2. Assrm 848 Sports Councils the ceiling of Central assistance for construction of Utility 3. Bihar £ Stadia, Swimming Pools and Indoor 4. Gujarat 2,239 Stadia has been raised with eflect from 1st April, 1976 from ‘Rs. 50,000 5. H aryrna 7^042 or 50 per cent of the cost, whichever 6. H'rn ichrl Pr; desh 4>299 is less’ to 4Rs. 1,00,000 or 50 per cent of the cost whichever is less’. 7. Jammu & Kashmir £

8. Karnataka 706 Book Banks in Schools 9. Kerala . 11*293 10. Madhya Pn deth 62*622 1895. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL 11. Mahorrshtra * WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased 12 Manipur 260 to state: 13. Meghalaya . . . 300 (a) the number of Book Banks es- tablished in Schools all over the coun- 14. Nagaknd 42 try, State-wise; 15. Orissa 2 ,117

(i>) the number of Book Banks 16. Punjab . . 11*424 functioning in the State of Karnata- 17. Rajasthan . . . 24,828 ka; and 1 49 Written Answers ASADHA 6, i89d (SAKA) Written Answers j$o i payments by factories and for addition SI. N f me < f the State/ N o. ( f ef interest in case of delay? No. Union Territory Book BanU THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes, Sir. 18. Sikkim 37 (b) The Sugarcane (Control) Order, 19 Tam il Nrdu 37.295 . 1966, provides for payment of sugar- 20. Tripura . 1,620 cane prices by the sugar factories within 14 days of delivery of cane. 21. Uuar Pradesh 4,632(0 Many State Governments/Union Terri- 22. West Bengal . 235 tories have enacted legislation provid- ing for interest on delayed payments. 23. And man & Nicobar I; h-nds 205 Interest rates vary from State to State but the Central Government has 24. Arunachal Prrdesh 4 i requested that the rates may be made 25. ChaiKi'garh 68 uniform at 15 per cent which is com- parable to commercial bank rates. 26. Dadra & N, gar Havl i £ In addition to the legal provisions 27. D jllii 84 r above, specific cases of serious default are taken up with the State Govern- 28. Goa, Daman & Diu 835 ments concerned. 29. Lakshi dwetp Nil %

30. M izon m 652 Aerial Spray

3i. Pondichcrry 120 1897. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to •The scheme of Book Banks hrs been introduced in standards I—IV of Pr'msiy state: S cH o l; of Local bodies fn m June, 1976. Exact no. of book banks in sc1 ools is not (a) whether the Government have known, purchased planes for the purpose of protecting the crops through aerial (" Includes 1,989 banks in Intermediate Colleges. spraying; and

/^Information not available. (b) if so, their number? % Books and writing materials are THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE supplied to all students free of cost. AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA); (a) Yes, Sir. Instructions to States for Prompt Pay- ment of Sugarcane Price (b) Thirty-five (35).

Rehabilitation of tivacuees from Srt 1896. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will Lanka the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: 1898. SHRI P. RAJAGORAL NAIDU: (a) whether Central Government Will the Minister of WORKS AND have advised the State Governments to h o u s i n g a n d Su p p l y a n d arrange for prompt payment of the REHABILITATION be pleased to sugarcane price to growers by the state*. factories in their areas; and (a) the number of evacuees from Sri Lanka awaiting rehabilitation; and (b) whether Central Government have also advised the State Govern- (b) whether there is any time limit ment, to modify laws to provide timely proposed to reabilitate them? 15 1 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 152

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND S*t ftrftre *rw «t t *mr * t HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ?t 'Hl^fl ^ f% '3T1ti if'T.C BAKHT). (a) Out of 62,504 repatriate (*t w i f^mT 3rrq*rr, nf%s f a w families (not evacuees) who have *TR f w ^RTT | I Trffaz f^THTT ^T arrived in India so far, applications of about 4,700 families only are pending. fasft *T^ff ^T% ^rftrfTTfWt ?RT *ft I 3fr 31 f ^ r g r , 1975 % «TT? Wt (b) No fixed time limit has been prescribed but instructions are to ^ w f t w m it Tf t| £ i rehabilitate as early as possible. ( q ) fatft tft JTT*T%- *t, % f^frt STfSTFRt Sffl ?SrmT'JT ?rr^?T 5Tr^ ^ t 5$rcrnnft <

( g ) IPT ?T it W * *TPT% *ft MR-TT 5TPTT | Market Rent Charged from Govt. Em- f% TT5r?TPTfw ployees 5PT fast ^r^ntt +4-*m *TT^Tfr ir r m r *r ? t *t£ i\ 1900. SHRi NAWAB SINGH CHAU- HAN: Will the Minister of WOKKS ^T% frffcz v z fa^TT TOT AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND f t ; REHABILITATION be pleased to state: ^ • (n) ^TT JTf *ft f (a) whether rent is being charged w rw f it TTsr^'rfw ftr^rfTjft from some of those Government ser- f w vants who are still in service and are staying in legally allotted house; 3rr -^T t ^ (b) how many Government servants (*r) qfe ft, rft ^?T% ^rp^r were penalised to pay market rent dur- ing the last two years and why; ^ ?ftr ?R^)R 3FT *«^llWt TT^T ?% % fa? 'W ^TW^I ^ (c) how many of them are still in service in Delhi; and fa^TiT t ? (d) what was the reason of charg- ing market rent from them? f*r*if«T wnrm ^ iftr THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND JJWfa («ft ftw?*T t o t ) : (*) HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- *?tf irfk^nr

Setting up of Central Government Further, a cluster of 10 demonstra- Housing Units tion houses at village Bhimora in dis- trict Surendranagar in Gujarat, was 1901. SHRI P. G. MAVALANKAR: put up by the Regional Rural Housing Will the Minister of WORKS AND Wing set up at Vallabh Vidyanpgar in HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- district Anand (Gujarat) under the HABILITATION be pleased to state: aegis of National Buildings Organisa- tion. A grant of Rs. 55,000 was given (a) whether Government have san- to this housing wing for the purpose. ctioned and set up any Central Gov- Besides this, the Housing & Urban ernment Housing Units in the State of Development Corporation Ltd. New Gujarat during the last 3 years; Delhi has financed 78 schemes for various public housing agencies in (b) if so, broad outlines thereto; Gujarat as under: —

(c) whether Government have pro- vided financial assistance by way of N o. of grant or loan or both to the State Agency schemes sanctioned Government and other public hous- ing schemes in Gujarat during the same period; and Gujarat Housing Board 36

(d) if so, facts thereto? Baroda MumVpM Corporation . 12 Guiarat Industral Development Corporation . 11 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- Gujarat Slum Cear?nce Board . 9 HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Gujarat State Ro?d Corporation 4 BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. Ahmcdabad Municipal Corporation 4 (b) Does not arise. Rajkot Municipal Corporation . 1 (c) and (d). The State Govern- ment of Gujarat receives block loans Surat Municipal Corporation • 1 and block grants for financing plan- 78 ning schemes and it is not possible to identify quantum of assistance for social housing schemes. In addition, Besides, 1 scheme has also been the following amounts of LIC loans sanctioned by HUDCO for the Mochi were allocated to the State of Gujarat Co-op. Housing Society, Rajkot. during the last 3 years: — Distribution of Narmada Water

Yeiir Amount 1902. SHRI P. G. MAVALANKAR: released Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (Rs. in l?.khs) (a) whether one or more of the 1974-75 105 00 minor or major irrigation schemes attached with the whole question of 1975-76 120•00 Narmada Water Distribution-Use issue are already in progress in actual work- 1976-77 90 00 ing in the States °f Madhya Pradesh, 315 00 Gujarat, Maharashtra and Rajasthan; and 155 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 156

(b) if so, broad details thereot in- Primary Education cluding the total cost expected and the central financial assistance to be 1903. PROF. P. G. MAVALAN- made available in each case to the KAR: State Government concerned? SHRIMATI PARVATI KRISHNAN: THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): 1a) SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE and (b). An area of about 50000 ha. be pleased to state: in Madhya Pradesh and 9000 ha. in (a) whether Government propose Gujarat in the Narmada basin is un- to strengthen and accelerate the pro- der irrigation through canals and gramme of spreading primary educa- tanks. tion in the who’e country; and

The following two major projects in (b) if so, how and at what cost the Narmada basin in the State cf and by what expected deadline? Madhya Pradesh which were approv- ed by the Planning Commiss on prior THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, to the setting up of the Narmada SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Water Disputes Tribunal are at pre- (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- sent in progress: — DER): (a> Yes, Sir. (b) The responsibility for primary education vests in the State Govern- . Estimrtcd Benefits ments. However, the Central Gov- Name of Project cost (‘ooo’ hr.) ernment give the highest priority to (Rs. crores') the development of primary education in the country. The present Gov- ernment is considering preparation of Tawa . 79 28 332 o a time-bound plan of action for achie- ving the goal of universalisation of Brrna . 12 97 63 2 primary education as envisaged in Ar- ticle 45 of the Constitution by the end of the VI Plan, if not earlier. The Madhya Pradesh Government It is estimated that if 100 per cent have also taken up some works on children are to be brought to schools, the Bargi Project on the Narmada. it wil cost about Rs. 775 crores. The Project is estimated to cost Rs. Rehabilitation of Pavement Hawkers 124.0 crores and envisages to provide irrigation benefits to an area of 5.20 1904. SHRI GANGADHAR APPA BURANDE: lakh ha. SHRI R. P. DASS: Irrigation is a State subject and Will the Minister of WORKS AND funds for execution of irrigation pro- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- jects are provided by the State Gov- HABILITATION be pleased to state: ernments within the framework of (a) whether the Government have their overall development plans. Cen- received any memorandum from the Jama Masjid Footpath Hawkers United tral assistance is given to the States Committee; and in the form of block loans and grants (b,) if so, the steps taken to rehabi- which is not related to any individual litate 333 pavement hawkers uprooted sector of development or project. from the Jama Masjid area by the 157 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

previous Government and Delhi Admi- (a<) whether admission to Master of nistration and D.D.A.? Physical Education course in Laxmi- bai National College of Physical Edu- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND cation, Gwalior, is not open to those HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- candidates who have obtained Dip- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR loma in Physical Educa4ion after at- BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. tending a condensed course and hav- (b) The question 01 rehabilitating ing a certificate in Physical Education; the pavement hawkers in the area who were not covered already is under re. (b) whether teachers having above view. mentioned Diploma in Physical Edu* cation are getting T.G.T. scales and are considered at par with those hav- Sale of Liquor by Pan Shops in Capital ing Graduate Degree in Physical Edu- cation; and 1905. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH (c) if so, the reasons for not admit- MALIK; Will the Minister of EDU- CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND ting candidates in Post Graduate CULTURE be pleased to state: Course having Diploma after attending a condensed Course in Physical Edu- (a) whether GovernmentV attention cation? . * I :i has been drawn to press reports ap- pearing in tlhe Statesman dnted the THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 7th May, 1977 wherein it has been SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE stated that a number of pa'n shops in (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- the Capital have been selling liquor DER): (a) Yes, Sir. during night time; and (b) if so, whether Government pro- (b) The information in this behalf nose to inquire into this matter and is not available at present as these nature of action taken in this regard? Diploma holders are employed by insti- tutions in the States. THE MINISTER OF EDUC ATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (c) The Jiwaji University, to which (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- the Lakshmibai National College of DER): (a) No such press report ap- Physical Education is affiliated, has pears to have been put out by the prescribed the following academic Statesman on 7 May 1977. The news qualifications for admission to the item in this regard in some other Master in Physical Education Course: sections of the press has, however, come to notice. (i) A Bachelor’s Degree in Phy- sical Education from a recognised (b) The Delhi Administration has university; or looked into and ordered intensive checking of the pan shops and has re- (ii) a postgraduate Diploma in ported that no such instance has come Physical Education of at least one to notice- year’s duration awarded by a Uni- sity or a board appointed by the Education Department of the State. Admission to Master of Physical Edu- cation course in Laxmibai National College of Physical Education, Gwalior Since the duration of Condensed Diploma Course is less than one year, 19061 SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH candidates holding this Diploma are MALIK: Will the Minister of EDU- not eligible for admission to the Mas- CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND ter in Physical Education Course at CULTURE be pleased tc state: the College. 159 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 160

Visit of DeUd University’s Senior Offi- (b) the number of shops and fac- cer to Tihar Central Jail tories removed during that period; (o) whether Government have re- 1907. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: ceived any representation for lack of Will the Minister of EDUCATION, civic amenities there; and SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: (d) if so, what action has been taken thereon? (a*) whether Mr. Kookla, a senior officer of Delhi University visited THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Tihar Central jail along with C.B.I. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- and I.B. Officers to cross examine the HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR detenues; BAKHT): (a) The Esplanade Road (b) whether his office was convert- Cycle Market, Motia Khan, Iron Dea- ed into the office of the police and he lers, Old Motor Parts and Lakkar gave the list of the teachers to the Mandi Market, and Old Subzi Mandi police for arrest; Markets. Besides these some Jhuggi Jhonpri Markets and Commercial (c) if so, what action has been Structures from non-conforming areas taken against him; and as also those in the Jama Masjid area (d) whether Government propose were removed. to make inquiry against him and (b) About 4500 shops and about 80 against other University officers who factories. are responsible for it? (c) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, (d) Does not arise. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- Seed Distribution through Panchayats DER): (a) According to the informa- tion received from the Delhi Admini- 1909. SHRI R. KOLANTHAIVELU: stration and the University of D^lhi. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Dr. A. s. Kukla, Dean, Students Wel- AND IRRIGATION be pleased to fare, did not visit the Central Jail, state: Tihar. (a) the part played by local Pan- (b) According to the information chayats in the distribution of seeds to furnished by the University of Delhi agriculturists; the office of Dean of Students Wel- (b) whether Government are aware fare was not coverted into the office of the difficulties and the time spent of the police and Dr. Kukla did not by agriculturists in procuring seeds; give any list of teachers to the police for arrest. (c) if so, whether Government pro- pose to accentuate on a larger scale (c) and (d). Do not arise. the role of local Panchayats in the seeds distribution system; and Removal of Markets from Delhi city (d) the salient features of the pro- 1908L SHRI KANWAR LAL posal, if any? GUPTA : Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT REHABILITATION be pleased to SINGH BARNALA): (a) The distri- state: bution of seeds to the farmers is un- (a) the names of the markets which dertaken by the State Government were removed from Delhi city during through a number of State agencies. the Emergency; At the national level, the National 161 Written Answers ASADHA 0, 1809 (SAKA) Written Answers j 6z

Seedi Corporation, State Farm Cor- HABITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR poration of India and Tarai Develop- BAKHT): (a) No Sir. Government ment Corporation Limited distribute has decided to allot a limited number certified seeds and truthfully labelled of residential units to accreditated seeds through their marketing outlets Press representatives who fulfil cer- established for the purpose. These out- tain condtions. lets do not include Panehayats at the village level. (b) and (c). Do not arise.

(b) Some difficulties have been re- Bangladesh Refugees settled in India ported in the procurement of seeds by the agriculturists. In order to make 1911. DR. BAPU KALDATE: Will available to the formers, certified the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- seeds at bullock-cart distance, a ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI- National Seeds Programme has been LITATION be pleased to state: drawn up under which N. S. C. is to establish 20,000 seed cutlets in the (a) whether a number of Bangla- country which would be selling seeds desh refugees have not been Rehabili- to the farmers. Under this pro- tated; gramme, the State Governments are to (b) the total number that has settl- establish their State Seeds Corpora- ed in India after the repatriation to tions who would be engaged in the Bangladesh of those refugees who had production of certified seeds ;"d its migrated during the Indo-Pakistan distribution within the State through War; and its own sale outlets. (c) the total burden on the Indian (c) and (d>. In view of what has Exchequer in maintaining these re- been stated in parts (a) and (b), it fugees? is for the State Government to involve THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND local Panehayats in the distribution of HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- seeds produced by the State Seeds HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Corporations, if they so desire. BAKHT): (a) All the refugees who came from Bangladesh since the de- Accommodation to the Accreditated claration of Independence on 25-3-71, Correspondents returned to that country when it was liberated. None of them has been re- 1910. DR. BAPU XALDATE: Will habilitated in India. the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- (b) Does not arise. , BILITATION be pleased to state: (c) As per audited accounts for the (a.) whether Government have de- the years 1971-72 and 1972-73, total cided not to provide accommodation expenditure of Rs. 2,89,49,44,937 was to the Accreditated Correspondents at incurred by the Government of India the Head Quarters of Central Govern- In connection with the relief of ment; Bangladesh evacuees. (b) if so, whether the accommoda- Performance of State-owned Agricul- tion already allotted to some selected tural Farm correspondents is being withdrawn; 1912. SHRI g. R. DAMANI; Will find the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (c) if not, what steps are beipg IRRIGATION be pleased to state; taken to end this discrimination? (a*) the performance and working THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND results of the State-owned agricultu- HOUSTNG AND SUPPLY AND RE- ral farms during the last three years; 022 LS--6 Written Answers 164 163 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977

(b) the principal crops, average per farms with private agricultural opera- acre input cost and average yield at tions because: these farms; and (i) the lands operated by the ag- ricultural farms of the Corporation, (?) how does the economy of thetfe were, by and large, un-reclaimed or farms compare with private agricul- reclaimed wastes or marginal lands tural operations? made available by the State Govern- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- ments and, therefore, are generally TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI inferior to the lands of private SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The farms; available information on the perfor- (ii) a sizeable part of the lands of mance and working results of agricul- the Corporation are used for pro- tural farms managed by the fctate ducing quality seed, the input costa Farms Corporation of India, for the for the seed-producing farms is years 1973-74 1974-75 and 1975-76, os higher than that of private farms. well as for the current year 1976-77, While the cost of production of the is given in Statement I attached. former category of farms is higher than that of the latter category* The yield per hectare is lower be- (b) Statement II, attached gives the cause of roguing operations in the principal crops grown, average yield case of seed farms. per hectare and input costs per hectare at the various farms of the State Farms, Notwithstanding the above, some Corporation. of the professional institutions have been/are being, requested fo moke (c) It is difficult to make a direct studies on the relative economics of comparison of the economy of these these farms with private farms. Statement I

1973-74 1974-75 1975-76 1976-77

I. Cultivated Area (hect.) . 23086 80 25486 00 26062 00 27570•80 2. Irrigated Area ,, 6757 60 8162 00 8641 60 11364 00 3. Cropped Area ,, . 25418 80 25198 80 29068 00 31280 40 4. Cropping Intensity 110% 99% m % n 3% 5. Total Production (gtls) (i) Paddy . 41468 30530 66548 118691 (ii) Cotton . 14333 12112 17972 26121 (iii) Wheat 59233 84051 172645 0 (iv) Gram 34005 33470 54599 *

6. Seed Production (qtl$) (i) Paddy .... 29558 25361 47194 70450 (ii) Cotton .... 50 237 133 7 oTOO (ii^ Wheat .... 6S7S2 142228 (iv) Gram .... 30057 22774 40362 * 7. Average Yield (qtls'hect.) (i) Paddy ..... 22 40 14 45 30*72 36 80 (ii) Cotton...... 8 6 0 7 12 10 10 IS 80 (iii) Wheat ..... 13-37 2 1 7 5 24 35 (iv) Gram ..... 6 90 7-72 i o *97 * 8. Financial Performance (Rs. Lakhs) (i) Income ..... 452-27 507*70 694 00 * (ii) Expenditure .... 3 4 32 1 525*51 810-30 * (iii) Profit/Loss (-+) . . ( + ) io 9 *o6 (—) 17-81 (_ ) 116-30 •

* Not yet available. l 65 W ritten A n sw ers A S A D H A 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 16 6 i Statement I I (Figures in respect of 1975-76)

Name of the Farm Principal Crop Grown Input Cost Y; eld per per hect. hect. (Rs. ) (Qtls.)

i. Suratgarh . Paddy . . 3*054-40 40 95 W heat . . 3>i87-37 25*03 Gram • . . . 1,638 27 n -73

2. Jetsar . Paddy . 2,950-30 25 83 W heat . . 2,731 20 20-85 G ram • . 1 ,1 6 1 1 7 7 3 8

3. Ladhowal . Paddy . . 2 ,1 2 0 1 7 19-65 W heat . . 2,176-70 31 10

4. K okilabari . Paddy . • 3*342-75 10 88 W heat . • 3,397 32 14*50

5. Bahraich . Paddy . • i>537’45 22 12 W heat . . 2,235*80 22 62

6. Hissar Cotton . . 2,767-87 12 25 Wheat . . . . 3,068 25 28 20 Gram (irrigated) . 1,285 92 18 02

7. Raichur . Cotton . . 7*937-20 11 25

8. Chengam . . Maize (Seed) . 3?42i '72 22 83 Bhmdi (Seed)* . 4*65140 6 0 5 Tomato (Seed)s . 7*30505 I -20 Brinjal (Seed) • 7,555-80 3 43

9. Aralam Plantation Crop:- Coconut "j Under planting stage fCashewnut it has not reached tne Rubber j bearing stage. Pepper J

TO. Mizoram . . Paddy . . 4,278 12 22-45

11. Rae Bareli Paddy . . 3,726-78 20 07 167 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 168

Integrated Soil and Water Conservation Multipronged Production Strategy Scheme for Kharif Season

1913. SHRI PRASANNBHAI 1914. SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: Will the Minister of AGRI- MEHTA: Will the Minister of AGRI- CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be CULTURE & IRRIGATION be pleas- pleased to refer to the reply given ed to state: to Unstarred Question No. 169 on 13th June, 1977 regarding scheme for con- (a) whether the Centre has sug- servation of hilly catchment area and gested to the States a multipronged state: production strategy for the coming Kharif season aimed at increasing the (a<) whether scheme on integrated overall productivity and minimise soil and water conservation in Hima- fluctuations in agricultural production layan region will have a multi -disci- during the season; plinary character involving affores- tation, pasture development, horticul- (b) if so, the main features of the tural crop, besides soil and water con- scheme; servation measures on agricultural fields; (c) whether the strategy has been evolved by the Union Ministry after (b) the total expenditure Bivolved a review of the production program- in the scheme; and mes undertaken by a number of cen- tral teams sent t0 the States; (c) whether State Governments are (d) their suggestions; and also to be involved in the implemen- tation of the scheme? (e) how many States have followed this? r ' THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Yes, Sir. The Centrally Sponsored SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Scheme on Intergrated Soil & Water Yes, Sir. ^ Conservation in Himalayan Region will have multi-disclplinery character (b) The main features of the stra- involving afforestation, horticulture, tegy include: pasture development "(including Al- pine ones), terracing of agricultural (0 Increasing the coverage under lands where necessary, protection of hign-yielding varieties of rice, jo- water ways and other ancillary works war, bajra and maize. in order to ensure intergrated and, optimal land use> of the catchment (ii) selection of suitable techno- area. The implementing agency will logy for different crops under va- also be responsible for animal hus- rious conditions of rainfall, irrigation bandry developments. and soil types;* (a) selection of proper varities of crops; (b) timely (b) A provision of Rs. 490 lakhs is sowing of paddy; (c) raising of proposed for the remaining two years community nurseries to help achieve of the 5th Plan, i. e. Rs. 200 lakhs timely transplanation of paddy (d) for 1977-78 and Rs. 290 lakhs for 1978- line sowing of direct seeded paddy 79. followed by early weeding and top- dressing with fertilisers; (e) de- (c) Yes, the implementing agency monstrations with improved imple- will be fhe State Government con- ments for proper land preparation cerned. and line sowing: 169 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers i ?0

1 (iii) special fertiliser campaign in Governments that documents relat- selected districts to increase usage ing to the transfer of vacant land or of fertilisers and also to improve Urban property-executed and pre- its efficiency through proper me- sented for registration before the thods of application; commencement of the Urban land Ceiling Act may be registered with- (iv) special campaign for appli- out following the procedure prescrib- cation of phosphatic fertilisers to ed in sections 26 and 27 of the Act; increase the production of Tur, and Groundnut etc.;

(v) training of extension staff (b) if sov the outlines of the direc- and of farmers in the latest techno- tives issued? logy developed by agricultural re- search institutions; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- (vD coordination between State HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Irrigation and Electricity Depart- BAKHT): (a). Yes, Sir. ments for timely supply of electri- city and Irrigation water; and (b) The State Governments and all the Union territories in which the (vii) arrangement of production Urban Land (Ceiling and Regulation) credit. Act, 1976, is in force, have been ad- (c) Yes, Sir. vised that the provisions of sections 26 and 27 of the said Act would have (d) The suggestions of the Central no application in respect of deeds of Teams for increasing the production sale, etc., which have been executed of kharif foodgrains in different States and presented for registration before vary Under different situations. the commencement of the Act, and Based on their suggestions, general where the execution of the documents guidelines a!nd broad strategy as has also been admitted before such mentioned at (b) have been suggested commencement. to the State Governments for suitable action by them.

(e) Action has been initiated by all Demand of Junior Doctors of J- N. the States, on the basis of their kharif Medical College profittefion plans and taking into account local conditions. As the tech- 1916. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: nology would vary for different crops Will the Minister" of EDUCATION, under different situations, the State SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Departments of Agriculture, in con- be pleased to state: sultation with the Agricultural Uni- versities and other research institu- (a) whether a deputation of the tions have developed their package of junior doctors of J.N. Medical College, practices for adoption by the farmers. Aligarh Muslim University met the Education Minister on or about 15th Directive to State Governments June, 1977 and submitted their de- relating to transfer of vacant mands, if so, their main demands; Land/Urban Property (b) whether those in medical col- 1915. SHRI PRASANNBHAI lege of Aligarh University are, in MEHTA: Will the Minister of WORKS matters of salary and stipends of in- AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND terns, discriminated against as com- REHABILITATION be pleased to pared to their counterparts in other state: Universities; and (a) whether the Union Government (c) reaction of Government to the have issued directive to the State demands? 171 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers \jz

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P. G. T. Scales for Music Teachers *TFT 1978 cW felT ofT ?W1T; *rk 1921. SHRI L. L. KAPOOR: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL, (*?) 9P* W>ff SFt ^ ?TP 5TRTS WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: f o r ^rr ^,-rrr %ftr ^ sq^rmr ^t # w r f¥rpft | ? (a) whether Music teachers work- ing in the Delhi Administration faqW tit* WT*TO gfcT ST>T schools and teaching higher second- ywfa »Ht (*ft fiw>HR 3 ^ ) : (*r) ary classes have not been given Post- ^ T 7 # T X«i Pf> : and 25 per cent by direct recruitment. Promotion is dependent upon avail- («f>) WT fW T M'Jil^n ability of posts in the grade of P.G.T* JTTTWT ^ % f%tT jff3RT 5FT STTFT and fulfilment of the prescribed qua- #m r I 5 *rw < f^ ft tffvRr ^t lifications and experience. T7T 7^t |; sfa (b) and (c). Do not arise. 175 Written Answers- JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 1 7 6

Improvement in Farmers’ Income (sr) jrf? ^r, rft ^ err w ^r

1922. SHRI SATYENDRA NARA- fipqT smnrr ? YAN SINHA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION wk fwrf («ft be pleased to state: fif$ : (t) (sr). 1976-77 ^ftmr % fat* ^ T - (a) whether Government policies during this procurement season have «ff% *t*pt r«RKito | 1 MY improved wlfeat farmers’ income; W Ht stttct ^ 7% *r*nrr w and SR5T fa-'IKTUlH f^TTO" TT *PT | (b) if so, the gist thereof? ^ ?rfirJT f t W *rc fr <]Fr f^nrr 1 THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI m SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Formula for Co-operative Sector Loan and (b). The new rabi policy has for Gobar Gas Plant been beneficial to the farmer as the procurement price of wheat has 1926. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: been raised from Rs. 105/- to Rs. 110/- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE per quintal and zonal restrictions on AND IRRIGATION be pleased to movement of wheat have also been state: j > removed to enable him to get even a higher price for his produce. (a) whether the R.B.I. has made radical changes in the formula to fffa HTVhT VT J T O 5! determine the quantum of co-opera- tive sec^tfr loan for gobar-gas plants; 1 923. TTo : (b) if so, nature of the changes t o t made; and 3 * irqT (c) whether the proposed changes (^ ) t o t «R+r< irf«r are not going to help the farmer in setting up gobar-gas plants in the country due to the restrictions im- (*?) irfe ft rft cpBT TOT I ? posed by the R.B.I.?

fftr fawrf *rsft («ft grafts THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- vrsnm) : (^) ^ i TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) (m ) 5T9?T ft TO=TT I The Reserve Bank has not changed the formula to determine the quan- tum of cooperative sector loan for gobar gas plants. VtcTT fft ^T*TT (b) The quantum of cooperative sector loan wouid continue to depend 1924. : TOT upon the estimated capital cost of the fffisr wVt Rrwrf ^ 3crr% f^rr gobar gas plant and the amount of f% : subsidy that would be forthcoming from the Government. However, there have been changes recently effected (^) TOT STJmft in earlier policy of financing for m r z I«mk Wl< gobar gas plants. 177 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers

These are:— and other articles are very often being stopped; (i) Waiving of the condition of a minimum land holding by the mem- (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- 1 ber of society seeking loan for set- ment thereto; and ting up gobar gas plant. This means not only the Agriculturist (c) the steps taken to improve member but also the dairy farmer their condition? owning requisite number of cattle needed for the contemplated size of THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND the plant and subject to his satisfy- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- ing the technical and economic fea- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR sibility considerations would be eli- BAKHT): (a) The State Govern- gible for finance for setting up the ments have reported satisfactory con- plant. dition and regular supply of cash doles ration etc., to entitled migrant fami- (ii) Originally, only the short-term lies. credit structure was free to provide medium term finance for setting up (b) and (c). Do not arise. gobar gas plants. Following the recommendations of the inter-insti- Review of Rehabilitation System for tutional group constituted by the Refugees Reserve Bank, both the short-term as well as the long-term credit struc- 1928. DR. SARADISH ROY: Will ture are now free to provide finance the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- —medium term i.e., for a maxi- ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI- mum period of 5 years in the for- LITATION be pleased to state: mer case, and long term i.e., above 5 years in the latter case—depend- (a) whether Government have ing upon the repaying capacity of contemplated to review the whole re- the prospective borrower worked habilitation system for the refugees out on the basis of his overall finan- settled in various camps; and cial position instead of the gross (b) if so, the facts thereof? annual surplus generated by the plant alone. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (c) The changes in the policy, out- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- lined under (b) above, are in the na- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ture of additional incentives and are BAKHT): (a) The rehabilitation of in no way restrictive. the refugees in camps has been pro- gressing satisfactorily and the need for a review has not arisen. Conditions of refugees (settled In M.P. (b) Does not arise. Rajasthan, Maharashtra, A. P. and Orissa

Former Delhi Lt. Governor’s threat 1927. DR. SARADISH ROY: Will to Delhi University’s Authority the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI- 1929. sHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH LITATION be pleased to state: GOSWAMI: (a) whether attention of the Gov- SHRI MUKUNDA MANDAL: ernment has been drawn to the hor- rible conditions of refugee families Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE settled in various camps in Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Maharashtra, be pleased to state: Andhra Pradesh and Orissa where (a) whether Government are aware cash doles, supply of rations, clothes that during the Congress regime the 179 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers then Lt. Governor of Delhi threaten- i f t * w T7 fornft sRrrftr ed a Principal of a College in Delhi University regarding the disqualifi- | ? cation of a VIPs two sons for ad- mission in the University; and f f a wVt ftm rf grtftar (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- faff T^rm T) : ( v ) x t r z (sr). fw f ment tihereto? r^q- f^r I iw f 'rft^Rmf THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, % fwg szreRVT TTHT $ m SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE srmt p i ’T^nTfTT ttht ^fy ?r*nr (DR*. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- jftSRT % fwtr | DER): (a) and (b). According to the information furnished by the Uni- % 3f *y ^ricft | ?rk JTf f w r M w versity of Delhi, the Development r<+l*{ 8T5T ’TfwfaHT % ^ Commissioner, Delhi Administration o * wrote to the Dean of Colleges, Delhi fTftflrftl 1975-76 % University stating that the Delhi Ad- 1 2 TFHff ^ 1 8 ? . i qfT^JPTraff ministration considers it necessary in SHTfir if ^ % f?T^ 5 5 .8 public interest that two students be admitted in B. Com. (Hons.) Course in w t srfinr zffiRT rr^Rmr fr *rf «ft i the Shri Ram College of Commerce. 2 0 ,0 0 0 ^ 3 ^ R Vf STfirf^frT STVTrTT The Dean of CollegeT forwarded the *jf»w f^TT if qfr- letter for necessary action to the Prin- cipal of the College who admitted jft3RT % fatr f f Tlf 5 *P7te WT ^ the two students. Following the ^ R r iT srrftrw 1 1 1976-77 above case of undue interference, the University took a decision that no 13 TTSfr SFt 22 ^ rT^ 1 1 JTRPT Principal or any official of the Uni- f*r^Tf wl*if % fat* ^rwr 40 «fi0< versity should respond to any pres- spy srfinr ifrsm h ? m fy *r# *fy sure or call from Delhi Administra- tion. f^ m *T 1 5.000 5jrf^ir^T fMrri *ry ?rftnr wrrir % if qfnmnTT % fair 3 % f^Tcr w r vy ^nm r fy ^rf P>t?l Jf aff ^ W f $T f«wrPw W W T WlVnT rPTT N <«T1 ^ jRTTR % f%TT ?RWTT 7T*T % frrcr f w f T O R 20 W ^ yfTSFTT »ff ^ ijf «fy | STTfarffa *T$TOcTT »lf; (»T) «rNr3ft ifysRT ^ # (m ) WT *T wpfh'r f t m y»w>) ?PT ^ 'TfTSR r«f^T< ni-i^y w f it #5R T ^f MR^frMd | I l 8l Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 182'

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(« p ) i H ^r^T^TcTT % *t 1934. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: Will the Minister of WORKS AND v k v Ttm ^t j ^r ^tttct HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- st pr 5r % EM

(c) if so, the details thereof? Vizhinjam and Neendakara Flatting Harbour, Kerala THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 1937. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR SHRI RAMACHANDRAN BAKHT): (a) to (c). In the scarcity KADNNAPPALU: and difficult villages in hard rock SHRJ G. M. BANATWALLA: areas of the country, supply of safe drinking water is being done by put- Will the Minister of AGRICUL- ting hand pumps with UNICEF assis- TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased tance. to state: (a) whether Vizhinjam and Neen- The Central Government has also dakara fishing harbour projects in embarked upon a programme in the Kerala have not so far been cleared Central Sector of the Fifth Five Year by the Central Government; and Plan, to deal with the problem of pro- viding water in problem villages, in (b) if so, the reasons therefor and addition to the plan allocations in the at what stage these proposals stand State Sector. Central assistance will now and steps being taken to speed be given to States for implementing up their clearance? specific schemes approved by the Mi- nistry of Works and Housing. The THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Schemes would cover the supply of drinking water through hand pumps/ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes Sir. Tube wells and piped water supply. (b) In the context of posing the projects for World Bank assistance, Concessions to Public Schools certain changes in the project reports were required to be made. A revis- 1935. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: ed report in respect of the fishing Will the Minister of EDUCATION, harbour at Neendakara has been re- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ceived recently and this is being con- be pleased to state: sidered for sanction under the Nation- al Plan. With regard to the pro- posals on Vizhinjam fishing harbour, (a) whether he has made a state- a revised project report is under pre- ment that students coming out from paration by the State Government. Public Schools turned out to be good On receipt of this report, it will be administrators; and posed for obtaining assistance from the World Bank. (b) if so, whether Government propose to give some more conces- Agro-Industry sions to the Public Schools in the mat- ter of collecting large amounts of 1938. SHRI SASANKASEKHAR school fees and collect donations? SANYAL: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (a) whether Government have de- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE fined, determined, described, enunciate (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ed or enumerated what is talked as DER): fa) Yes, Sir. This is my per- ‘Agro-Industry'; and sonal opinion. (b) if so, whether Government cart furnish a list of Agro-Industries With Ob) There is no such proposal. reference to West Bengal? 185 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 186

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- (b) and (c). This Ministry would TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHtU welcome an increase in the Plan out- SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Ag- lay for Education, although it has not ro-industries are broadly understood to been possible for this financial year. mean those industries which provide Action will be taken at the appro- basic inputs for agriculture like priate time. seed, farm machinery and imple- ments, fertilisers, pesticides, etc. on the one hand and those industries Grievances of Ashrafabad Camp. which use agricultural produce as the Colony, West Bengal principal raw material for processing or preparing a finished product, on 1940. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will the other hand. the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI- (b) Information is being collected LITATION be pleased to state: and will be placed on the Table of the House. (a) whether Government have re- cently received a memorandum re- Allocations for education in Five Year garding the grievances of the Ashrafa- Plans bad Camp Colony, 24-Parganas, West Bengal; and 1939. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SO- (b) if so, the steps taken or propo- CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be sed to be taken for the redress of the pleased to state: grievances?

(a) the percentages of allocations THE MINISTER OF WORKS for education in the successive Five AND HOUSING AND SUP- Year Plans; PLY AND REHABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) (b) whether Government consider and (b). The Government of India it necessary to revise the priority have received no memorandum of schedule in the matter of plan outlay grievances. The State Government particularly for education in current have reported that they have receiv- Fifth Five Year Plan and the pers- ed a representation about a dispute pective plan; and between two factions of Co-operative (c) if 50, steps taken in this behalf? Rehabilitation S o c ie ty of 528 resident families of the Colony, which is be- fTHE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, ing investigated by them. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) The percentages of allo- 7-Point Programme for Unemployment cations for education in the succes- Problem sive Five Year Plans are as follows: 1942. SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARKATAKI; Will the Minister of Plan Percentage EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state:

First Five Year Pkm 7 2 (a) whether the 7-Point programme announced by t^s Education Minister Second Five Year Plan . 6 *2 for tackling the unemployment pro- Third Five Year Plan . 7 5 blem has been implemented by the Education Ministry; and Fourth Five Year Plrjn 5 2 (b) if so, the progress that has been Fifth Five Year Plan . . 3 3 made in the implementation of the - programme? I 87 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, * (b) if so, whether the Union Gov- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ernment is considering to buJld such (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- houses which can oo easily rebuilt DER): (a) and (b). While inaugurat- after destruction c^ue to these floods; ing the symposium on Employment (c) whether Government are also strategies and programmes for India, considering to help the people n fleeted Bangla Desh and Sri Lanka on 2nd February 1976 «t the Commonwealth by these floods; End Asia-Pacific Regional Centre for Ad- (d) what assistance hie Ministry is vanced Studies in Youth Work Chandi" considering to give to these people for garb, the former Education Minister shelter? had expressed the opinion that a 7- Point integrated programme for tackl- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND ing the unemployment problem be HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- taken up. As this was only a sugges- BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR tion for consideration it could not be BAKHT); (a) Yes, Sir. made the basis for future course of ac_ (b) No such proposal is under consi- tion. deration of the Ministry of Works and Housing. Procedure for Allotment of Shops in (c) and (d). On the basis of the re- Delhi commendations of the Sixth Finance Commission, financial assistance to 1943. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR; Will States in the context houses. (b) if so, the reasons for the same; and Construction of Houses at Cheaper Rates (c) whether the Government have changed the earlier procedure for al- 1945. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: Will lotment of shops in Delhi? the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI- THE MINISTER OF WOflfcS AND TATION be pleased to state: HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- BILITATION (SHRI 'SIKANDAR (a) whether the Government had BAKHT); (a) No, Sir. the scheme for construction of houses on cheaper rates in the coun- (b) Does not arise. try; and I (c) No, Sir. (b) if so, whether this scheme is still in the active consideration of the Floods in Assam Government? 1944. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: Will THE MINISTER OF WORKS the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- AND HOUSING AND SUP- ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI- PLY AND REHABILITATION TATION be pleased to state: (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT); (a) and (b). It is presumed that the Hon’able (a) whether due to the floods a large Member wants to know if the Govern- „ number of houses are being destroyed ment encourage construction of chea- In the State of Assam every year; per houses under the different schemes 189 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Ansvters 190

implemented by the Government fiwfl Bsnwi far* * and their public sector under- takings. The Government promote ^construction of low-cost houses in the implementation c£ scheme? for so- 1947. fa * JTTTTim : cial housing and financing of housing w r foren, *T*rnr wfr WFfffii activities by the Housing and Urban Development Corporation so thst the Wsft Uf? l»i houses constructed are within the means of the people for whom the schemes are intended. For construc- («f ) % t It r tion in the general P90I also, the G ov- f ^ f t srimnr % stwhm+i v t ernment nre economising on cost of construction. fawffor fcuT ; srfc

VXPs having their own Houses in ( ’i ) w v r f Delhi using Government Accommo- dation 3RTfpT-q?r ferr to t «u ?

1946. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Will the Minister of WORKS AND fsrar, w t h sftT HOUSING AND 'SUPPLY AND RE- *T!ft (Tfo ti***.) :(?p ) HABILITATION be pleased to state: HVHW 5TO i t % «ppnT, 57 (a) whether Government are aware WWIM+'i f w IPTT I that those V.I.Ps. who have their own houses in Delhi are using Government accommodation paying even market (m ) I rent; and

(b) if sot the number of houses, flats and other accommodation occupied by fefft ^ (hh ^<^>(0 the un-authorised persons?

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 1948. ftW HKHW J HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR SRT Omfwi T WWW BAKHT): (a) Allottees of Government f^TT fTT’T fa? : quarters, who have their own houses in Delhi, are eligible for retention of Government quarters on payment of (fr) w r 70 fasffd fr *rfgy fr c r market rent. The house-owning restric- wtf % ^ rv R t viN rfW f wfr tr?r tion are not, however applicable to V.I.P’s such as Ministers, M.Ps., Jud- srfft if *r*ft tK+rO «hi

(b) The house-owning officers, who ( g ) WT *T§ | fa W T retain Government accommodation WTT % Sffftnp tcFT 'TFT W$t on payment of market rent, are not considered as in-authorised occupants. srfsr^rforf ^rr ^ncvrxt | ; 191 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers 192

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fair srrt^r ^ fop?; farm 1 1 (b) This is a matter which would require detailed consideration in con- sultation with State Governments and i(*r) sp R 'ft^ ^ .t 1 other agencies. t93 Written Answers ASADHA 6, 186# (SAKA) Written Answers I94

standardised j^lan for housing (b) if so, what disciplinary action has been taken by the Government . 1951. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- against the officials C:3» ?ernedT SHNAN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND REHABILITATION be pleased to HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- state: HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) No ‘C’ type quarter as (a) whether any survey has been such was demolished. However, cer- conducted to evo]yfl|jg^Lndardised plans for housing; tain unauthorised constructions there- in and encroachments/structures on public land abutting the quarters were (b) if so, the gist thereof; and demolished by the Municipal Cor00- (c) what steps has been taken to ration of Delhi. The question wrhether popularise the use of prefab-building the demolitions were carried out legal- components so that these may help in ly and after observing due formalities the implementation of mass housing and procedure is being referred to the scheme? Fact Finding Committee constituted for this purpose. THE MINISTER OF WORKb AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- (b) This question will arise only HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR after the Fact Finding Committee has BAKHT;: (a) No, Sir. submitted its report.

(b) Does not arise. Applications pending for house building (c) Several steps have been taken loan for popularising use of prefabricated building components e.g. evolving 1953. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: standardised designs for doors, win- Will the Minister of WORKS AND dows, roofing components, etc, direct HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- contact w ith Architects for use of pre- HABILITATION be oleasec* to state: fabricated system; advertising and write-ups in technical, non-technical (a) whether a large number of ap- journals/publications; persuading con- plications for loans for house building struction agencies to use prefabricated are pending both from individuals and components. Sponsoring experimental, the Housing Co-operative Societies; construction projects incorporating use and of prefabricated building component.*;. (b) if so, howv the Government pro- Demolition of ‘C’ Type quarters in pose to sanction these loans? Delhi

1952. SIIRI R. K. AMIN: Will thf. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA- BAKHT): (a) It is presumed that the TION be pleased to state: Question refers to Government ser- (a) whether the Municipal Corpora- vants. House Building Advance is tion of Delhi had viol?ted the munici- given by the Government only to its pal bye-laws for demolition of cons- employees individually, irrespective of truction of ‘C’ tyDe quarters in the the fact whether they have formed Capital during the Emergency period, themselves into a co-operative society or not. An advance is not given to attd ■ - - a co-operative society directly. Hence 922 LS—7. there is no question of any applies- 195 Written Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Written Answers

tion being pending from the co-opera- (b) the problems mentioned in the tive societies. As for individuals, at letter; and present, about 6,000 applications are pending. (c) steps the Government have taken to solve these problems? (b) In the current year’s budget a sum of Rs. 20 crores has been provi- THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE ded for house building advance. Last AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT year the original provision was only SINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes, Sir. Rs. 10 crores; but later, this was re- vised to Rs. 15 crores. The increased (b) Non-inclusioft of 19 talukas in provision is expected to be more than three districts, namely, Aurangabad, sufficient for the pending applications Bhir and Osmanabad in the Marath- which will be disposed of, in due wada region under Drought Prone course, during the current year. Areas Programme. (c) The whole question of bringing Inadequate houses tar Government additional drought prone districts employees in the country under Drought Prone Areas Program- me was considered in 1973 by the Task 1954. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: Force in Integrated Rural Develop- Will the Minister of WORKS AND ment appointed by the Planning Com- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- mission in connection with the for- HABILITATION be pleased to state: mulation of the Fifth Five Year Plan. The Task Force felt that there were (a) whether the Government’s at- no compelling reasons for opening the tention has been drawn to the inade- list ol' drought prone areas as given quate number of houses for the Gov- in the Fouith Plan and recommended ernment employees in various parts of that the same areas'districts might the country; and continue to be so categorised during the Fifth Plan. The Government of (b) the steps taken by the Govern- India accepted this recommendation. ment to augment the housing facili- The matter was, however, again consi- ties?, dered by the Central Coordination Co“ mittee for Rural Development which THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND is a high policy-making body in the HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- Planning Commission in its meeting HABILITATION (SJ^RI SIKANDAR held on 27th Mny, 1976. The Central BAKHT;: (a) Yes, Sir. Coordination Committee decided not to open thj question of admission of (b) Efforts are being made to cons- new districts under Drought Prone truct as many dwelling units as pos- Areas Programme during the Fifth sible in the general pool within the Plan. resources available.

Import of D.T. 14 Russian tractors Drought in Marathwada, Maharashtra 1956. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: 1955. DR. BAPU KALDATE: Will Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government are (a) whether “Marathwada Janata importing D.T. 14 Russian tractors; Vikas Parishad” Aurangabad had sent and a letter on 30th May, 1977 about the drought prone areas problem in Mara- (b)' If so, their number ind tBe eel- thwada region of Maharashtra; sons for import? 197 Written Answers ASABH A 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE is backward in this regard due to na- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT tural constraints like high degree of SINGH BARNALA): (a) No, Sir. salinity in river water and less favour- able ground water conditions. *(b) Does not arise.

1957. SHPI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: 'c) ar*d Available records do Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE not show that Dr. K. L. Rao had pro- AND IRRIGATION be pleased to posed a lift irrigation project for state: South 24-Parganas. The West Bengal Government have however intimated (a) whether Bengal and specially 24 that comprehensive project for agri- Parganas is considered to be severely cultural development of the Sunder- backward areas as far as irrigation is bans in the South 24 Parganas in- concerned; volving an investment of over Rs. 526 lakhs has been formulated. Nearly 75 (b) whether the entire area (South per cent of this outlay would repre- 24 Parganas) is basically single crop- sent the irrigation component which ping (very low yielding) area which includes deep irrigation tubewells as is the reason for acute poverty; also surface drainage schemes and other soil and water conservation (c) whether one of his predecessors, measures. Implementation of this Dr. K. L. Kao had thought of putting project will increase the irrigation po- up lift irrigation project for irrigating tential of the area to a great extent. the said area; and Scope of lift irrigation from surface waters is found to be limited due to (d) will the present Government be high degree of salinity. able to consider and finalise the issue as early as possible? Demands of the employees of G.I. Press THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Santragachi (West Bengal) AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) It has been 1958. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: reported by the West Bengal Govern- Will the Minister of WORKS AND ment that the gross cultivated area HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- in the State? is 77.28 lakh ha., the HABILITATION be pleased to state: gross irrigated area being 20.48 lakh ha. The percentage of gross irriga- (a) the pending demands of the em- ted area to gross cropped area is thus ployees of Government Press, Santra- 26.? as against 27.4 for the country as gachi (West Bengal); and a whole. (b) how are those * demands being dealt with by the Government? Che gross cultivated area and the gross irrigated area of the 24 ParganBs are reported as 8.90 lakh ha. and 1.00 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND latvh ha. respectively, the percentage HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- of irrigated area to cultivated area be- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ing 11.2. BAKHT): (a) and (b). The demands of the staff like Wefare Club, School It has been further reported by the Building, Dispensary Building and re- West Bengal Government that the irri- duction of rent in respect of the Gov- gation facilities in the North 24 Par- ernment of India Press Pool Quarters ganas are better but the Southern part are under examination in the Ministry. 199 Written Answers JUNi 27, 1677 Wntien Answers 200

Shortage of drinking wafer in Madangir (^ ) *TT SfifffTTf, Sftit D.D.A. Colony *rrfc $ 5tt% w & t *nft tit 1959. DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: | ? Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION be pleased to state: ffr ftrsnf («ft (a) whether the DDA flats in fa? ap^rrm) : (v) % («r). frf*r Madangir, South Delhi have no drink- tit* i w f ifaT^nr % ^riffa ing water for the residents; and f^mf/sr«rnff *t ^mmfV *?t (b) if so, any remedial measures ^5TT Tft I tftr W 5 ft? m T^T

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12.98 h n . Power Development Consultancy Services (India) Limited, New PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Delhi, for the year 1975-76.

Notifications under Essential (ii) Annual Report of the Commodities Act, 1955, s t a t e m e n t Water and Power Development showing reasons for laylng Annual Consultancy Services (India) REPORTERS OF F.C.I. FOR 1973-74 AND Limited, New Delhi, for the year 1974-75 & Reviews and Annual Re- 1975-76 along with the Audited potrs of Water & Power Develop- Accounts and the comments of ment Consultancy Services (India) the Comptroller and Auditor L td . f o r 1975-76 General thereon. [.Placed in THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- library. See No. LT-510/77]. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): I beg to lay on the Table— Notifications under Tamil Nadu Private Colleges (Regulation) Act, ( 1 ) A copy each of the following 1976, Reviews & Annual Reports of Notifications (Hindi and English Central Institute of English and versions) under sub-section (6) of Foreign Languages, Hyderabad for section 3 of the Essential Commo- 1975-76 and statement re: D e la y in dities Act, 1955: — laying Annual Report.

(i) G.S.R. 181(E) published in Gazette of India dated the 13tli April, 1977 rescinding the Inter- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Zonal Wheat (Movement Con- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL- trol) Order. 1973 published in TURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA Notification No. G.S.R. 187(E) CHUNDER): I beg to lay on the dated the 31st March, 1973. Table: —

(ii) the Sugar (Price Determi- (1) A copy each of the following nation for 1976-77 Production) Notifications (Hindi and English Amendment Order, 1977 publish- versions) under section 53 of the ed in Notification No. G.S.R. Tamil Nadu Private Colleges (Re- 188(E) in Gazette of India dated gulation) Act, 1976 read with clause the 18th April, 1977. [Placed in (c) (iv) of the Proclamation dated library. See No. LT-508/77]. the 31st January, 1976 issued by the President in relation to the (2) A statement (Hindi and Eng- State of Tamil Nadu: — lish versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the Annual Reports* of the Food Corporation of India (i) G.O.Ms. 746 published in for the years 1973-74 and 1974-75 Tamil Nadu Government Gazette [Placed in library. See No. LT- dated the 27th April, 1977 mak- 509/77] ing certain amendments to the Tamil Nadu Private Colleges (Re- (3) A copy each of the follow- gulation) Rules, 1976. ing papers (Hindi end English ver- sions) under sub-section ( 1 ) (ii) Memorandum No. 132435/ section 619A of the Companies Act, Rules-DI/76-7 published in Tamil 1956: — Nadu Government Gazette dated (i) Review by the Government the 27th April, 1977 containing on the working of the Water and erratum to the Tamil Nadu Pri-

♦The Reports were laid on the Table on the 13th June, 1977. 205 Assent to Bill ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) 20 6

vate Colleges (Regulation) Rules, hrs. 1976. [Placed in Library. See No. . LT-511/77] CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE (2) A copy of the Annual Re- port (Hindi and English versions) L o c k o u t i n t h e In d i a n E x pr e s s a n d of the Central Institute of English F i n a n c i a l E x p r e s s , N e w D e l h i and Foreign Languages, Hyderabad, SHRI DINEN BHATTA CHARY A. for the year 1975-70 along with the (Serampore): I call the attention of Audited Accounts. the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs and Labour to the following matter ot (3) Review (Hindi and English urgent public importance and request versions) by the Government on that he may make a statement there- the working of the Central Insti- on: tute of English and Foreign Lan- guages, Hyderabad, for the year “Serious situation arising out of 1975-76. lock-out in Indian Express and Financial Express, New Delhi since (4) A statement (Hindi and Eng- the 20th June, 1977 affecting the lish versions) showing reasons for livelihood of their employees and delay in laying the papers men- steps taken by the Government.” tioned at item (2) above. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-512/77], THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND LA- P roclamation r e v o k i n g P r e s i d e n t 's BOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): R u l e i n O r i s s a In my Statement; on the 17th June, THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- 1977, I had informed this Hon’ble FAIRS (SHRl CHARAN SINGH): I House that I would call a m eeting beg to lay on the Table a copy of on the 22nd June, 1977 to discuss the the Proclamation (Hindi and English matter of non-implementation of versions) dated the 26th June, 1077 Government’s notifications relating to issued by the Vice-President acting interim wage rates of newspaper em- President under clause (2) of ployees, with the representatives of article 356 of the Constitution revok- the Indian and Eastern Newspaper Society, the Indian languages News- ing the Proclamation issued by him paper Association, the All India on the 30th April, 1977 in relation to Newspaper Employees Federation, the the State of Orissa, published in Indian Federation of Working Jour- Notification No. G.S.R. 415(E) in nalists and the National Union of Gezette of India dated the 26th June, 1977 under article 356(3) of the Con- Journalists. I had also referred to stitution. [Placed in library. See No an appeal made by me to the News- LT-513/77] paper employees not to go on any in- definite strike. I am happy to say that my appeal received a very good response, and the discussions w ith the 12.8i hrs. representatives of Newspaper em - ASSENT TO BILL ployers and employees were held in a very cordial atmosphere on the 22nd SECRETARY: Sir, I lay on the Tabl" June. It was agreed that three re~ the Appropriation (Railways) No. 2 presentatives each of Newspaper em- Bill, 1977 passed by the Houses of ployees and employers would meet Parliament during the current session at Bombay on the 26th June, 1977 to and assented to since the report was see how the implementation of the last made to the House on the 13th notifications issued by the Govern- June, 1977. ment could be secured. In these talks they will be assisted by officers 207 Lock out in Indian JJJNC 27, 1977 Express and Finl *08 ' Exp. (CA) [Shri Ravindra Varma] another notice that since all negotia- tions have failed, they have decided of the Ministry of Information and to close down the establishment at Broadcasting and the Ministry of Delhi subject to legal formalities. The Labour. management is also reported to have issued letters to the employees in- In the meeting held on the 22nd dividually terminating their services June, 1977, the question of lock-out from the 23rd September, 1977. in the Delhi edition of Indian Express and the Financial Express was also brought up. After the meeting, I Subsequently, workers of the Indian held discussions with the representa- Express Group of papers at Madras, tives of the employees’ organisations Vijayawada, Bangalore, Cochin and on the situation in respect of these Madurai have gone on an indefinite two Newspapers. An officer of the strike with effect from the 26th June, Labour Ministry was asked to con- 1977 in sympathy with the striking tact the parties and report on the workers of the Delhi unit and in fur- situation. The strike in the Indian therance of their demands for full Express and the Financial Express at implementation of the notifications. Delhi continued after the 16th June Discussions on the terms that can be also. The management, by a notice acceptable to the management and doted 17th June, called upon the work- the employees are continuing. Since ers to resume duty by the first shift the discussions are at present at a on the 18th June, 1977 at 6 A.M. The delicate stage, it will not be benefi- workers, however, did not resume cial or proper to go into the details work. Meanwhile, the management of the formulae that are being con- had obtained a stay order in the sidered for the resolution of the im- matter of implementing the Govern- passe. I am in constant touch with ment's notifications on the 14th June, the parties concerned and shall con- 1977 from the . tinue to make every en&eavour to find a solution, to bring about the re- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Only turn of normalcy in these units so for Bombay Edition. that the publication of these news- papers is resumed at an early date. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: The I shall keep the House informed of Management issued a notice on the further developments. 18th June stating that the workers had not called off the strike and that the strike was illegal and unjustified. SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: The employees were further given a From the statement, it appears that final opportunity to report for duty the Minister made an attempt to latest by the 1st shift commencing bring a settlement in the matter. If from Monday the 20th June, 1977. we go through the statement made by The strike, however, continued. The the hon. Minister, we find that the management by another notice on Government has been soft to the the 20th June, 1977 declared that Indian Express Management—Shri there was complete cessation of work Goenka. and that the management apprehend- ed physical violence and damage to Please see the allegation—on 16th its property. The management noti- June, 1977 the workers were on strike. fied that they have no alternative but On 20th June the management de- to declare a lock-out from 20th June. clared a lock out and on 22nd June the same management came forward SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Totally and declared that they have no other unfounded. alternative except to close down their SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: On the paper in Delhi. They knew about the 22nd June, the Management issued law that at least 3 months’ notice is 209 Lock out in Indian ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Express and Finl 210 Exp. (CA) necessary lor closing down any un- MB. SPEAKER; Now, will you 4ertaking. This also comes under the kindly sit down. He must also ans- same law. Therefore^ 1 don’t find wer your questions. If you go on any reason for goenka group's Indian speaking, then I have no alternative Bocpress tand Financial Express issuing except to get up and ask the Minister this kind of notice. Simultaneously, to reply. You have already put many how can they issue this kind of no- questions. Let the hon. Minister ans- tice to their employees? How can wer them. one justify this action on the part of the management? Along with this SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: notice the management is coming and Sir, the matter is so urgent that we issuing individual termination notices have to put in many questions. After on the employees. Is this justified waiting for a week, you have admitted under the law? this. You must realise that.

What is the plea which the Indian MR. SPEAKER: But, leave some Express magnate Mr. Goenka is tak- more questions for others also. ing? The plea is that they cannot pay. Why? When the award was SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: given, there was the representation What is the use of this? of both the employers and the em- ployees as well as the Government. MR. SPEAKER; Go along. I am They pleaded their case. After hear- helpless here. ing all the three parties the judge gave his award. They might have SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: taken the plea that they are incurring Sir, after one week’s waiting you losses. Losses may have been there have admitted this. In the meantime, during the time of emergency. But it has been discussed already in the this payment is to be made after 1st other House. I have mentioned all of April, 1977. Therefore, the ques- this to you. tion of loss or profit will not arise in respect of the payment of interim re- MR. SPEAKER: It is no use argu- lief. ine with you.

Now, what is the plea that they SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: are taking? They are ready to pay My question is this. The meeting is 50 per cent. For another 50 per cent going on for conciliation. That is the they are to spend Rs. 23,000 per method that is being adopted. In the month. They are going to open a meantime, the closure notice has been new edition in Chandigarh and other given—the termination notice has places. been given. At the same time they are going to start a new edition from So, in spite of the best wishes of Chandigarh. He must stop all this. the hon. Minister to bring about a This is probably inconvenient to Shri settlement within the party, may I Biju Patnaik because I am putting the question regarding Shri Goenka for know from him whether it is a fact that this company, that is, Goenka’s whom they have got a very soft cor- ner. That is why he has come over company, had taken a decision in the meantime of starting a new edition to this side. (Interruptions). from Chandigarh and other places? If so, may I know whether Govern- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Bhattacharya, ment will take steps to see that they I am not objecting to your putting do not get the permission to bring out in long questions. But, you go on a new edition so long as this dispute repeating the same question. Any- is not solved? wdy, let the hon. Minister reply. 2 i i Lock out in Indian JUNE 27, 1911 Express and Finl. 212 I Exp. (CA) SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: Sir, Then, he said about the award. Ac- there are so many questions which tually, there was some misunderstand- the hon. Member has raised. I do ing. Perhaps, he did not mean to not know which one I have to answer say what he said that the judge gave and whether I should answer all of the award. It is not a question of a them. judge’s giving the award. The wage board has come to a certain conclusion. First of all, I would like to begin There was a judge who was the by saying that I, on behalf of Govern- Chairman of the Wage Board. But, it ment, totally repudiate the allegation was the recommendation of the wage that there is any question of softness Board which the Government accep- or harshness in the attitude of the ted and, on the basis of the accep- Government—either softness to one, tance of the wage board’s recom- or harshness to another. This is a mendation, the Government issued case about which the hon. Member this notification. must have his say even though there was an attempt made by some other Now, Sir, he also said that as far hon. Members to prevent him. The as this interim relief is concerned, hon. Member asked what, steps have it is payable from 1st of April which government taken? I wish to say is a date that falls after the emer- first of all that in this case, right from gency was withdrawn and, therefore, the time when the workers went on the profit and loss account during the strike, Government has been follow- earlier days is irrelevant. I do not ing the matter and has been trying think the hon’ble Member is so naive to use its good offices to see that there as to believe—as is implied in his was a way found out of the impasse. question—that the profit and loss of The origin of the trouble was from days prior to April have no relation the notification that was issued by to the question. the Government on the question of (Interruptions) interim wages. On this question, the Government has not changed its Sir, I do not want any impression attitude. to be created that the government is in any way soft to anyone. The £ov- In answer to another question^ I ernmen holds the balance equal and made it clear in this House that the this is not a government which be- Government stands by its notifica- lieves in two standards. Therefore, tion. It has made no modification I do not want this impression to be whatsoever in this notification. And cheated by the hon. Member that the Government expects all news- we are soft to anybody. paper managements to implement the notification. Secondly, Sir, the hon. Member In the case of the Indian Express— asked about the intention of the In- as the hon. Member pointed out it dian Express to close down. Sir, the has been stated by the management hon. Member must be quite familiar that their paying capacity has been with the Industrial Disputes Act. inadequately examined by the wages Under Section 25(0) of the Industrial Board. I am not here to answer this Disputes Act an employer who in- on behalf of the Indian Express. I tends to close down an industrial can only answer what the attitude establishment employing three hund- of the Government is. Why the In- red or more workers has "to apply for dian Express has chosen to put for- prior approval at least 90 days before ward the plea that its paying capa- the date of intended closure to the city was inadequately examined by appropriate government clearly sta- the Wage Board is a question that ting the reasons for his intention to the Indian Express can answer. close down the undertaking. On re- Lock out in Indian ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Eocpress and Finl. 214 Exp. (CA) ceipt of this notice the appropriate gard. As far as the Union Government government has to apply its mind in itself is concerned our attitude to the 1 assessing whether the reasons given question is clear from the fact that I are adequate, sufficient and justifiable am making efforts to see that a way or whether the closure would be pre- is found out of the impasse. If we judicial to public interest. In this case wanted the closure to continue, obvious- the employer has sent an application ly I would not have been making any under Section 25(0) to the Delhi Ad- effort in that direction. As I said in ministration which is the appropriate my statement, I shall continue to government in this case. To our know- make every effort to see that a way is ledge the Delhi Administration will found out of the impasse, and to see have to give an order either way with- that the closure notice withdrawn, the in 90 days from the date of receipt of strike is withdrawn, normalcy returns the notice, that is, by 23rd September, and the papers come out. I do not want 1977. The matter is being considered to say very much about the details by the Delhi Administration, which as of the formulae because it is quite far as our information goes, has not clear when negotiations and discus- taken any decision. sions are taking place no purpose will be served by splitting hairs abo\’ t SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU the formulae. In fact, the success of (Chittoor): When the other daily the venture of 4he efforts that I am newspapers like Statesman, Hindu- making may be jeopardised if I want stan Times, Patriot, Nav Bharat to apportion blame or analyse the Times, etc. have accepted and paid various formulae that have boen dis- the interim relief, I do n ot know why cussed. Goenka has not paid. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU; Sup- Secondly, Sir, Mr. Goenka apprehend- pose the talks fail, whether the Govern- ed violence. How can he apprehend ment is going to refuse permis- violence when the strike was peaceful. sion . . . . ? Mr. Speaker, Sir. you are well aware that at Madras when Mr. Goenka closed SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA; It is a down the Indian Express he brought conditional question. Therefore, no un- it to Chittoor and then went to Ban- conditional answer can be given. galore. That is the trick he plays. I SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI3H- want to know from the Minister whe- NAN (Coimbatore); I have listened ther he knows very well that under very carefully to the Minister’s reply 5 of 25K if the government is not and gone through his statement very going to give any reply that means it carefully. Now, I want to bring one is deemed to be given permission to point to the hon. Minister’s him. Therefore, I want a categorical notice. Here is a concern that claims statement from the Minister whether to have been the victim of the Emer- the government is going to refuse the gency and suffered losses during the permission or not. Please tell us the Emergency. Yet, precisely, during the policy of the government with regard Emergency, a new edition was started to the Indian Express Management. in Hyderabad and, I am told in Cochin also. Sir, the calculation of the in- SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: Sir, terim relief has been worked out on as far as the first part of the the basis of the year 1971—1974, and question is concerned, the hon. the figures of the Indian Express Group Member was giving some infor- for this year show that this Group of mation to the House, much of it papers can pay this amount. It is my is not new to many hon. Members contention and the question of loss of this House. For the second part of and so on does not arise. If a paper the question, as I stated earlier this like Patriot which during the emer- matter is before the Delhi Administra- gency suffered tremendous loss on a c c o - tion, and the Delhi Administration unt of harassment, stoppage of Gov- has not taken any decision in' this re- ernment advertisement and also pres- 215 Lock out in Indian JUNJE 27, 1977 Express and Finl. 216 Exp. (CA) [Shri Parvathi Krishan] hoax that is being perpetrated on the country as a whole. I would also add sures were brought on other people my voice to the appenl made by Cha- lor the stoppage of advertisements, trasangarsh Samir.hi of Rajasthan to could pay the interim relief to its em- Shri Jayaprakash Narayan to quite ployees, why should the Ebcpress Group Express Towers. I would appeal take up this stand? Because there is a through you, Mr. Speaker, to convey history behind this Express Group. that appeal to him. The same thing happened after a pre- vious Wage Board when the Madras AN HON. MEMBER; Why do you edition was closed down Madurai edi- bring that ailing man into the picture? tion was started. There is a continuous trend behind the whole thing. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: The hon. Therefore, however reasonable, soft Member has prefaced her many ques- spoken and polite the Minister may be, tions with declamations that were I would request him to bring the Ex- made with unusual vigour. She does press Group to book. Other papers not generally work herself up into a have paid this interim relief to their mood of the kind that she chose to employees. I do not understand how demonstrate in ;hQ House today. this paper is in a position to start a SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- new edition in Chandigarh on the 2nd NAN: I was provoked by your re- of July. Permission has been sought to plies. start new editions in Patna ana Lucknow. I would request the hon. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA; I did Minister to take strong action against not intend to provoke her at all, nor this Paper. Again what disturbs me did I intend to get provoked. She made is the following in his statement that a general statement about the paying he is “in constant touch with the capacity of Indian Express and asser- parties concerned and shall continue to ted that she knew for certain that make endeavour 10 find a solution in they have the paying capacity. This is order to bring about normalcy in these the hon. Member’s opinion. units so that publication of these newspapers is resumed at an early SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- date”. But the Minister fails to say NAN: Knowledge. anything concrete on this point and assure protection to the employment SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: Opinion of all the staff and the journalists in based on knowledge; whatever it is, it this concern. It is not only the ques- belongs to the hon. Member. tion of resumption of publication of ‘SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- papers. It can be done in so many ways. NAN; It is not my opinion. It is the Termination notices have been given to opinion of the Wage Board and the the employees. I want an assurance Wage Committee. They went into the from the hon. Minister that the con- paying capacity of the newspapers. It tinued employment of these Express is not my personal opinion. Group employees will be guaranteed. This is a guarantee I want. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: The Secondly, I would like to know also hon. Member is wrong if she thinks about the closure. Whether the Gov- that the Wage Board went into the ernment is thinking in terms of taking capacity of the Indian Express in over this concern because it is a con- particular. They went into the capacity cern that does have profit? Otherwise, of all newspapers and came to certain it cannot start new editions in other conclusions, of course, including the places. Lastly, is Government prepared Indian Express. But is is not that tfrat to set up a Committee to go into the there was a specific enquiry in this finances of the Express Group of pa- case. She has expressed her view about pers? Because that is exactly the paying capacity. She is Tyelcome to what will fielp to uncover this express her view. But as far as the 217 Lock out in Indian ASADHA 6, 1896 (&AKA) Express and Finl. 218 Exp. (CA) Government is concerned, if the Gov- papers which went under and there ernment did not uphold the recom- were certain papers that stood up for , mendations of the Wage Board, it the freedom of the press, for indepen- would not have issued the notification dence and for human rights. It is true that it issued. The fact that the Gov- that there is this distinction and people ernment did issue the notification and cannot forget it, nor can the House nor stands by the notification, and is the hon. Member. (Interruptions). It making every effort to see that the is not only a question of one individual notification is implemented means that but of the journalists who fought for the Government accepts the Wage the freedom of the press and human' Board’s recommendations in this re- rights. But that does not mean that gard. Now, Sir, as far as the question anyone earns any immunity from the of payment itself is concerned, the Go- law for this reason. The law is the vernment has taken a very strong same for everybody as far as this gov- position in this regard. It has not dilu- ernment is concerned. I have made it ted its position, whether it is the very clear that no newspaper will Indian Express or Patriot or National receive or get any special treatment Herald—I do not want to be invidious from the government as far as the in mentioning names or not mention- notification and the implementation of ing names. In every case, the Govern- the notification are concerned for any ment wants that its notification must reason whatsoever. be implemented. Precisely for that re- ason, as the hon. Member knows and Now comes the question about the as I stated in my statement earlier, protection of the employees. The gov- we convened a meeting of the news- ernment is very keen to see that the paper managements as well as the em- closure notice is withdrawn and the ployees’ organisations to discuss the lockout is lifted so that the employees question of phasing the implementa- may continue in their employment. It tion in case where particular difficul- is because the government is very con- ties arose. I am very glad to inform cerned to see that nobody loses his the House that the discussion on the employment, that nobody is victimised, 22nd were cordial and constructive, and I shall continue to make those and the discussions were followed up efforts. yesterday in Bombay by further dis- cussions. The indefinite strike that the Then she asked whether the govern- hon. Members referred to when the ment is thinking of taking over the matter came up before the House last newspapers. I do not know what time, did not materialise. And the dis- prompted her to put this question. I cussions on the 26th i.e., yesterday in do not want to go into the question Bombay were held in a very construc- whether she thinks that taking over of tive atmosphere and we have every the papers will benefit any particular reason to hope tnat a formula would group. be found which would be acceptable to both the parties. And therefore, the SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- Government has ma.ie an effort to ?«.-e NAN: The Smayl Newspapers' that the kind of complaint, the hon. Association have asked for it. Member has referred to, does not come from the newspapers or the SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: As emp^yees concerned. far as the government is concerned, no situation has arisen for the gov- Now, Sir, she referred to the Emer- ernment to think in terms of taking gency. I do not know whether the over any of the newspapers in the •nightmare still persists with her. country. We do not indulge in such There is no doubt at all that during acrobatics to please ourselves or to Emergency there were certain' papers show that we have the power to do which folded up, kow-towed, certain so. 21 9 ^ock out in Indian JUNE 27, 1&77 Express and Fin I. Exp. (CA) [Shri Ravindra Varma] in infamy—the man who withstood Lastly she made a reference to the rigours of censorship, who with- someone who is not present in the stood the maniacal dynastic m^ssiah House—Shri Jayaprakash Narain. I who rode rough-shod over this am very sorry that she chose to country, and the first criminal act of bring in his name. She has made an this Government was to allow this appeal and I do not have to answer great editor to be removed. that appeal. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- Now, as far as this issue is con- NAN: My last question was whether cerned, there are only 3— 4 important a committee will be set up to go into questions. Here is a habitual the finances of the Express Group. offender, Seth Ramnath Goenka who The appeal was made to you, Sir. has violated the law with impunity by Why does he interfere with that? non-payment; and non-implemejnta- tion of the Wage Board’s recom- SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: If a ' mendations, declared an illegal lock- .situation arises where the govern- out, an illegal closure and, as he ment is convinced that there is a himself admitted, an illegal issue of need to enquire, the government will notices. Now, Sir, this habitual certainly do so. But at the moment, offender is sought to be defended by the government does not feel that this government because the Prime such a situation has arisen. Minister, for whom I have great SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN respect, used to play host to him and (Badagara): Sir, for the last several he is also playing host to the patron years I have been drawing the atten- saint of Janata faith. tion of this House to the criminal activities of a man called Seth Now, the Minister in his reply said Golmal Ramnath Goenka, his various that he is not sure about the capacity nefarious deals and his treatment of of the Express Group of newspapers employees and working journalists; to pay. This is an issue which has the way he sought to blackmail the been gone into all over again on officialdom and his various other several occasions. criminal activities including 420! SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: He This was also , the subject matter of is misquoting me. a privilege motion I brought before the House demanding that he be SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: turned out of the House. Now he He can correct me later. The Chi?f has turned out to be a great defender Cost Accounts Officer of the Gov- of Janata faith. The statement which ernment of India went into the the minister has brought forward capital structure of the Express today and the various replies he has Group. Subsequently Babatosh given today only confirm that he is Dutta Committee on newspaper not only a defender of the Janata finances went into this question. faith but unfortunately there is Besides giving out various details absolute collusion between this gov- about the Express finances which for ernment and Seth Ramnath Goevika! want of time I cannot go into in Now he is projected before this detail now, it was clearly brought House as if he were a great cham- out that he was running it for private pion of the freedom of the press. profit because of the structure of the Now, Sir, I would like to bring to entire Express Group itself which has your notice that the great champion been changing. This kind of meta- of the freedom of the press—what morphosis has been going on right did he do immediately after the from the days of his chain editions, assumption of office of this great right from 1958-59. Once it was Government? That was to remove private Limited Company, then it a great and competent journalist Mr. became a Public Limited Company V. K. Narasimhan—it will go down and again it was transferred into 221 Lock out in Indian ASADHA 6, 1889 (SAKA) Express and Finl. Exp. (CA) other different companies. At one “If, as is expected, the Govern- time there were 410 companies, in ment discontinues the duty on carrying on this tamasha called the import of newsprint and excise Express empire, and there is no law duty on sale of newspapers which which he 'has not violated, no provi- amounts to tax on knowledge and sion of Indian Penal Code which was which do not exist anywhere in the not attracted by this gentleman of the world, this action of the govern- Express Group. ment will help to meet half of my. burden in which case 1 was pre- I had expressed my grievance pared to bear the other half, in against my Government also when it spite of my present losses/* was in power. And, Sir, our whole Again he says later, and I quote: complaint is based on the Dutta Committee Report. The question is of “If, however they act as expect- capacity to pay.' That is the crucial ed, I shall implement the interim question. Now the Wage Board award.” performs an important fund ion in industrial relations and the This is what he has written. He Government once it accepts the knew what the budget was like. norm it cannot run away from the There is a question of budget leak- responsibility of implementing this age which is a different issue; and it Wage Board recommendation who- is an issue of breach of privilege. ever might be involved, whether it Here he comes and says that he was be Seth Ramanath Goenka or whe- prepared. But as far qs the Delhi ther it be some other criminals or edition of Indian Express is concern- marauders or highway robbers. The ed, he stubbornly refuses to imple- Government’s objective should be to ment the award. And there is an get it implemented. illegal closure; and as I have pointed out, there are illegal notices given. Now, Sir, this Government, as is Mr. SPEAKER: Please come to the clear from the statement, is not only question. refusing to get it implemented but (Interruptions) they are throwing up their hands in Mr. SPEAKER: Let him finish the air by saying ‘Well, this is how it is’! And if you read the statement now. That is why I am asking him it is clear that it is written in such to put the question. a way that the workers, employees SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: I and journalists are responsible. Now, would like to know from the hon. I want to say that these are the Minister whether he was totally un- people who, whatever the Janata aware of the state of Express finan- leaders might say, “poisoned the ces, or was the government totally wells of public opinion in this unaware of it. There are so many country” to quote from a Supreme files and files on it. Court judgement. MR. SPEAKER: Com along now. You are going away from the sub- Now, Sir, I have something to say. ject again. Don’t elaborate it. I will produce the collusion in another way. In a communication SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: The to a veteran Sarvodaya leader Ravi- question is whether he would ask the shanker Maharaj and to Mr. Krishna- Chief Cost Accounts Officer of the ▼adan Joshi of Ahmedabad, Mr. Government of India to go into the Goenka is reported to have said on question of thei Express Group’s 14th June 1977—1 shall bring a privi- capacity to pay to facilitate the im- lege motion against the Finance plementation of the wage board Minister—and I now quote: award. 223 Lock out in Indian JUNE 27, 1977 Express arid Finl 224 Exp. (CA ) SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: It is not a subject of which I have any looked a$ though the hon. Member notice, and I do not think I can speak had thought that the subject-matter on this subject. of the Calling Attention was Mr. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA TUMKUR: Goenka, his life and work etc. and Obviously, he does not know. not the strike and the conditions of the employees, to which the Calling MR. SPEAKER; Even if he know®, Attention refers. It appears that the on what authority can he speak? hon. Member has done considerable SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: This research on Mr. Goenka. I am quite is nothing but playing to the gallery. aware of the fact that even in one of Then, he used the phrase “‘mania- the earlier Lok Sabhas, he had shown cal dynastic Messiah” . This phase his knowledge, or his information as has a certain echo in our ears. I he chose to describe it, of what Mr. wonder to whom he is referring when Goenka was like and what he was he uses the phrase “maniacal dynas- not like. I do not want to cross tic Messiah” because for many month swords with him. That is not part of the whole country has reverberate#! the question. However, I would say with this phrase. Therefore, I am that it is rather unfortunate that he not surprised...... (Interruptionsj chose to make a long statement about a person who is not present here, and Then, he referred to illegal lock- to attack him, and to say that there outs and illegal closures. On this is no law which he has not violated question, I did not use the words and no offence which he has not com- “illegal lock-out” or “illegal closure”. mitted. If he had made these alle- Unlike the hon. Member, I have been gations outside (Interruptions)— I discreet enough not to pronounce on heard him quietly; and, Sir, you must law, which is not my function. The allow me to have my say; he .nust position is that the Industrial Dis- have the patience and courage to putes Act makes a distinction between listen to me—I said that if the hon. public utility services and industrial Member had chosen to i: ake these establishments which are not public grave allegations outside the House, u tility services. As far as public there would have been a leg/il machi- utility services are concerned, the nery to decide whether he was rioht, Industrial Disputes Act makes it obli- or whether he was indulging in lilel. gatory to 2ive 14 days' notice either (Interruptions) I do not yieH. He said for a declaration of lock-out or for that the government is iT gTTT, 3TW % *TPT kind was convened. f W % 1RTWTT Then he made a reference to a % ^ JTHT I f m t letter that Shri Goenka wrote to Maharaj, or to what he qro ^ ^ 1 1 referred to as a copy of the letter m ^ with him. I do not know anything about the letter. I can only go by the contents that he revealed in the t 23 s o ^ t t t m & m House when he read out those sen- '37T spt | 1975-76 tences. He said that he was going to bring a privilege motion on the 22 50 fSTTT TT ^ $ I question, because he suspects that cR f ^ y p TV 1 STW there has been a budget leakage. If ^ *rnpnr *flr §f i for the hon. Member thinks so, he can move a privilege motion. Of course, $>6gM % 3RTPTT that is a separate question and I can- ?rTFTT TOT | 23 ^jfTT not answer it. ^*TT ^ I ^ ^ I think I have answered all the questions. 23 W ? W 13.M brs. T*ptt q?rr ^ i stfr tfsfr * prepared questions and do not listen % w t srrcrfar t w e to the Minister’s replies. I am p;iined that he should have made a remark SfR'TT $ I like that. JflfT f=F f T f SHRI RAVINDBA VARMA: I did not mean to cast any aspersion on fft€ ^ t 5W 922 LS—8 327 Locle out *n Indian JUNE 27, 1977 Express and Finl. 228 Exp. (CM) | fa ^ «r*rarat % Tknr *6t**r ^TT 5R1 ?Nr «ft¥ *rn> % fair forr 1 ?f 5T^T? *rPT ^ r f , ^ T O ^ vt * ft w ^TdT, % qft^r I J* ’^TT £ fa ^ T5C ^TfT SHTT «TT, ^ T fa fa*r ?TTf ^t£ Jr ^*T ^t£ » r -^ r ^rir fairr % 1 f^ff % ^ f ^ TO fe?*ft 'T^^rfr qr ?n:f ?Rf ^fr sfenrt ^t vi, V 1T % . ^ i P ^ t *TT 31j Wnj ft*TT ? 3Ft fw^rpft ^riz ^rf, q^ T ff ?fk t 3PTr4 ^EtvT <("-v 1 n3c f^dtfl well informed member, he must know that many newspapers have not yet fipT favfiRFT ^t mf^ET ?t W% I complied with the notification. Some | fa «ft ifhmr wq^ft have implemented it and some of fadT«r ir ^ fa

(1) A d v i s o r y C o u n c i l o f D e l h i “That in pursuance of Rule 4 (vii) D e v e l o p m e n t A u t h o r i t y of the Rules of the Indian Council of Agricultural Research, the mem- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND bers of this House do proceed to HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- elect, in such manner as the Speaker BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR may direct, four, members from BAKHT): I beg to move: among themselves to serve as members of the Indian Council of "That in pursuance of sub-section Agricultural Research for a term of (2) (h) of Section 5 of the Delhi three years, subject to the^bther pro- Development Act, 1957, the members visions of the said Rules.” of this House do proceed to elect, j i such manner as the Speaker may The motion was adopted. direct, two members from among themselves to serve as members of the Advisory Council of the Delhi (iii) A l l In d i a C o u n c i l f o r T e c h n i c a l Development Authority, for a term E d u c a t i o n of four years, subject to the other provisions of the said Act.” THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE MR. SPEAKER; The question is: (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): '‘That in pursuance of sub-section I beg to move: (2) (h) of Section 5 of the Delhi Development Act, 1957, the members of this House do proceed to elect, in “That in pursuance of clause i(g) such manner as the Speaker may of paragraph 3 of the Ministry of direct, two members from among Education Resolution No F. 16-10/44- themselves to serve as members of E.III, dated the 30th November, 1945, the Advisory Council of the Delhi the members of 1his House do pro- Development Authority, for a term ceed to elect, in such manner **s the of four years, subject to the other Speaker may direct, two members provisions of the said Act.” from among themselves to serve as members of the All India Council for The motion was adopted. Technical Bitcation for the term ending on the 51st July, 1979, sub- (ii) Indian Council or Agricultural ject to the olber prcyision^ of ibe RESEARCH. said Resolution. W&Htt&n to jtftffc ft, Comrfitttm

NOk. mPBAlCBR: « * qfctttttffc U: (V) GlNBftAL COtTNCIL Of fcfDZAK Sqho gIl cor Min u s , Dh An ba p “That in pursuance of clause i(g) of paragraph 3 of the Ministry of DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDES: Education Resolution No. F.16-10/44- I beg to move: E.III, dated the 30th November, 1945, the members of this House do pro- “That is pursuance of the provi- ceed to elect, in such manner as the sions contained in rules 4(ii) to (iv; Speaker may direct, two members and 15 of the Rules and Regulations from among themselves to serve as of the Indian School of Mines, Dhan- members of the All India Council f-r bad, the members of this House do Technical Education for the term proceed to elect, in such manner as ending on the ;

(iv) C o u n c i l o f t h e In d i a n In s t i t u t e August, 1979, subject to the other o f S c i e n c e , B a n g a l o r e provisions of the said Rules and Re_ gulations.” DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CH1TNDER: I beg to move: MR. SPEAKER: The question is: “That in pursuance of sub-clause “That is pursuance of the provi- (e) of clause 9(1) of the Scheme for sions contained in rulse 4(h) to (iv) the Administration and Management and IS of the Rules and Regulations of the propert:>s and funds of the of the Indian School of Mines, Dhsn- Indian Institute of Science, Banga- bad, the members of this House do lore, read with regulations 3.1 and proceed to elect, in su ch manner as 3.1.1 of the Regulations of the Insti- the Speaker may direct, two mem- tute, the members of this House do bers from among themselves, to serve proceed to elect, in such manner as as members of the General Council the Speaker rnay direct, two mem- of the Indian Sehoel of Mines, Dhan- bers from :»mong themselves to serve bad, for the term ending on the 15th as members of the Council of the August, 1970, subject to the other Indian Institute of Sciencc, Banga- provisions of the said Rules and Re- lore, for the term ending on the 31st gulations.” December, 1977.” The motion was adopted. MR. SPEAKER: The question is: “That in pursuance of sub-clause Some hon. Members rose— (e) of clause 9(1) of the Scheme for the Administration and Management MR. SPEAKER; Now I would like of the properties and funds of the to have the cooperation of the House. Indian Institute of Science, Banga- There are three or four notices before lore, read with regulations 3 1 and me. The Members give me some 3.1.1 of the Regulations of the Insti- paper, some*notice, something at 10.30 tute, the members of th;s House cc a.m. or 10.00 a.m. or even 9.30 a.m. and proceed to elect, in such manner as they want to raise it in the House to- the Speaker may dircct, two mem- day. What I say is that we have al- bers from among themselves to serve ready spent 1 hour and 10 minutes on as members of the Council of the the Short Notice Question and the Indian Institute of Science, Banga- Calling Attention. We are discussing lore, for the term ending on the 31st the demands f°r grants. We have £>ecember, 1977/’ taken away thatmueb time. If you The motion was adopted. want to take away another hour of so Election t* Conwittees ASfAPHA, 6* 18^9 (SAKA) jp.G., }877-78 ^

ou ttys$e things tp that extent, the tim$ the laser, You will io^ more demands. i on demands will be taken away. You cafc go on arguing and spend You want to raise certain matters im- another hour. I don’t mind. But you mediately today. There will be a will be the loser. speech made, a controversy raised and all that. It will take away some more time. 13.14 hrs. For instance, Mr. Lakkappa and Mr. Vayalar Ravi have given something to DEMANDS FOR GRANTS 1977-73— say that the Finance Minister has done contd.— something wrong and they want a Ministry of Commerce and Ministry statement from the Finance Minister. of Civil Supplies and Cooperation— I have to go into it. 1 have to take the contd. opinion of the Finance Minister also and find out whether he has done any- MR. SPEAKER; Now, we take up thing wrong. Then only I can permit further discussion on the Demands for it. I have told the hon. Members that Grants of the Ministry of Commerce I will dicuss it in the Business Advi- and Ministry of Civil Supplies and sory Committee with the leaders of the Cooperation. Opposition and, if possible, try to do something about It. if you do that, it Mr. Krishnappa wanted 2 more will proceed in a regular way. hours for this. I have no objection. To that exent, it will cut into other Then, Mr. Jyotirmoy Bosu comes and demands. For this, I concede. But in tells me something about the Health the Business Advisory Committee, you Minister, about some irregularity or decide the time. some wrong statement made by the Health Minister. He is not here. I THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- have to mention it to him and find out TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI whether there is any mistake made. RAVINDRA VAR'MA); We have no Then only I can permit it. objection.

MR. SPEAKER: He will have no SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN; objection. the same demand is Do I understand that Mr. Jyotirmoy discussed for 10 days, other demands Bosu wants to raise something to be will be guillotined. The whole House answered by Mr. Raj Narain? will be the sufferer. So far as this is concerned, I allow it. But next time, MR. SPEAKER: Yes when we meet tomorrow or the day after in the Business Advisory Com- mittee, we shall fix the time so that SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN; other demands may not suffer. That will be the day when we have it. You want 2 hours more on this. We MR. SPEAKER: I think so! The have got a balance of 1J hours. So, other hon. Members also may appeal it comes to 3i hours. The Minister to him. may reply at 5 O’ Clock and take an hour. We will finish it today. To- We have already taken 1 hour and morrow we will take up the next de- 15 minutes. I have already given so mand. This is final. It will continue much time for the Short Notice Ques- till 5 O' Clock and the Minister will tion and the Calling Attention. If you reply at 5 O* Clock. want to take further time on these things, I may tell you that, ultimately, Shrimati Parvathi Kriahnan to you are the loser, the whole House is continue her speech. 235 D.G., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 23S SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN that the consumers are protected.. (Coimbatore): Mr. Speaker^ Sir, there Take, for instance, direct export sub- is an extension of time. I hope you sidy. It was Rs. 88 crores in 1974-75. will be a bit kind to me also. Two years later f it went up to Rs. 29& crores. Government's expenditure on I was referring on Saturday to the foreign trade in 1971-72 had increased import policy of this Government re- from Rs. 41.29 crores. I want to know flecting new Janata Government’s po- what is the net profit that Government licy of “trust” in trade which had al- is going to get there because so far the ready been blown up because it was picture has been, I think, dismal and adequately exposed by the scandal of what makes it even more dismal is the edible oil import out of licences for* that you are talking of new policy and: more than Rs. 500 crore worth of im- new philosophy. port. The actual import was only Rs. 40 crore worth. Because the prices But as far as the Ministry goes, it in the international market were shoot- seems to continue the old Congress ing up by 120— 150 dollars per tonne policy which was a policy that we in the past three months. Therefore, were consistently criticising, and from it was more beneficial to operate the that policy, there has been no depar- licences outside the country than to ture at all. We would like to know operate it inside the country. what is the departure that is going to Meanwhile, the edible oil is being help you to bring about a change. supplied to vanaspati units to help them to earn larger profits. So, I was For instance, take jute and cotton wondering what was the policy of the textile. There is heavy import of low Government on this question both in cost polyester and a cut in indigenous terms of import, supply and distribu- price, but it has not resulted in the tion to the consuming public. reduction of cloth prices. Why are you going to continue this? I would like to give another example of trust in regard to the production of And secondly, there has been a long, controlled cloth. In the three succes- standing demand that you should sive months, till March, 1977, the nationalise three very important shortfall has been of the order of 100— consumer goods industries—jute, 130 million metres; the quota being cotton textile and sugar—because these 230 million metres. Therefore, even are the industries in which big business with that small quota, there has been and the management have been play- a shortfall. ing ducks and drakes for a long time and earning enormous profits. There I will give you yet another example had been an allergy, as far as the past of trust. There is the scandal of the Government was concerned, and I Indigo export of Rs. 1 crore where the think that allergy at least is continu_ exporters have diverted cash assis- ing in this Government also. We have tance to their profits. In this way, to see how bit by bit, these big one can go on endlessly. textile magnates have made money and then invested it in high profit 13.15 hrs. yielding areas and then handed over all the mismanaged textile mills with [Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair] outdated machinery to the people. Therefore, we have been asking what positive policy is the Minister going Now the Government says that they to have both in terms of trade and in will not touch these mills. Let other terms of public distribution system? companies take over these mills so On the one hand, the balance of trade that some more money is drained out continues to improve, on the other, no both from the public exchequer and public distribution system is set up so from the public fund. As far as the 237 D G > 1977-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 238

National Textile Corporation is con- is now being grown called vinca rosa; cerned, it is true that there are some in Tamil it is called ‘Nityakalycmi'i it 1 conecrns that are in a bad way; they is a lovely name in Tamil, but the nefed modernisation. Therefore, you English name is not so nice. Anyway, should give more attention to them. the point is that it is being grown in At the same time, Government’s re- drought-prone areas in vast quanti- port itself says that during the ties and is being exported to America, financial year under review, the loss England, and so on for purposes of has come down from what it was in medicines and so on. Now what Is the previous year. Therefore, the happening is that Government is NTC is improving. Instead of giving totally out of the picture here, and the IDBI soft loans to the private most of the export is being cornered sector, why do you not use those funds by the big farmers, the big landlords that are available for the NTC mills and the vested interests in the coun- because here you have got something tryside. Therefore, I would like the that is under your control and you Ministry to step in here. This export can make sure that that money is be. trade should be taken over by the ing used for modernisation and you State Trading Corporation. In this do not drain out the money from the way, protection can be given to the public exchequer for other purposes. small and marginal farmers—by some You will also have to take steps, as marketing system being set up. The Mr. Pai pointed out, to over- Minister should take up this matter come the malpractices in the NTC very seriously because here is a which are continuing. The malprac- drought-prone region and it is not tices that exist in the textile industry easy to overcome that particular* as far as the private sector is concern- situation that is there. This dry crop ed are today existing in the public is extremely important there. Since sector also. I would like to know you claim to be rural-oriented, far- what steps the Minister proposes to mer-oriented and peasant-oriented, I take in order to check those malprac- hope you will also be oriented to- tices and make sure that the NTC wards the farmers, peasants and cul- continues to progress as it has been tivators in the south. progressing since it came into being. The improvement should continue. Then there is the problem of the About handloom, in view of the hosiery industry. I have no time to shortness of time, I am not going into go in detail into all this. But the Cut the details of the handloom problem. Motions are there. The hosiery in- Many Members have referred to that. dustry people have already met hin* I would appeal to the Minister that and pointed out how there is a dis- special attention should be paid to crimination; those who are produc- handloom because I see very little be- ing smaller hosiery products do not ing allotted to the handloom sector in have protection whereas those who his Ministry. are producing ready-made garments As far as cashew industry is con- such as trousers, bush shirts and so on have more protection from the cerned, the Minister should go into Government. Hosiery industry is an the malpractices of the CCI which industry on which thousands and handles the import of cashew. Those malpractices are continuing, serious- thousands of workers are dependent ly affecting the industry. This has- —not only those who are employed been a long-standing problem. The in the hosiery industry but also those Minister should go into it* who are working in the ancillary in- dustries like sewing, dyeing, making There is another problem, and that cardboard boxes, packing, printing of is in the south. Particularly in my labels, etc.; it is a whole series. Statef there is a particular plant that There are some areas, some towns, as D jGL, 1977-78 JUNJE 27,4977 D.G., 1977-78 240

[Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan] throughout the country? Therefore, even out of this 45 million, a fair Timpur Iti tty constituency, that art share goes to Kerala, thanks to the totally dependent on this industry. Ii United lYont Government. That is that industry closes down, there is a why even without (defections and chain reaction, then the whole town even without saying that they are becomes sort of bankrupt, *0 to prepared to take in defectors—as is apeak. All these smaller industries happening in Maharashtra and else- get aifected. where today—the Kerala Government Lastly ^ I would come to th4 ques- could come back with a thumping tion of consumer protection. The majority in the elections both for outlay in the Fifth Plan for consu- Parliament and for the Assembly. mer protection is Rs. 143- lakhs; for Even when the ration was reduced, this year it is Rs. 56.30 lakhs. And the people did not object and did not what are the measures for consumer get agitated because there was equa- protection? I am quoting from the lity in the distribution. When it was ‘Performance Budget’. less, the less was divided equally and when it was more, the more was divi. "It has been decided to provide ded equally: it was not that some had financial assistance to voluntary more and some had less. That is -consumer organisations and State what we mean by a public distribu- and U.T. Governments for taking tion system—that essential commodi- up programmes for the welfare of ties should be divided equally bet- consumers. .. The Council will collect ween the topmost income strata and and disseminate information relat- the lowest income strata. Only if you ing to consumer matters, conduct can see to it that you have this 6ort research .... to cover studies in chan- of network of public distribution sys- nels of distribution and margins, tem can you eliminate all those forces performance and quality testing of to whom you are today appealing, products, seminars etc.” with all your notions of trust. Trust is not going to yield results; trust is And what are these measures? An not going to satisfy our people; trust outlay of Rs. 39 lakhs has been ap- is not going to feed qur people. They proved for the V Plan to cover studies cannot live on trust: they are faced in channels of distribution and mar- by the hard facts of prices today. So, gins, performance and equality test- it is the speculator that has to be eli- ing of products, seminars and disse- minated; it is the big trader that has mination of information to consumers, to be eliminated; it is the big smug- assistance to consumer associations gler and the big hoarder that have to etc. I am really sa d that the Janata be eliminated. Garlanding the Prime Government, exactly like its prede- Minister and falling at the feet of the cessor the Congress Government, suf- Lok Nayak is not going to satisfy the fers from ‘seminaritis’. Is the semi- common man of this country. nar going to protect your millions and millions of consumers? Nothing is indicated as to what you are going to Therefore, two things are extremely do about your public distribution sys- important. One is your public distri- tem. Today there are fair-price shops bution system: you should overcome that cover only 45 million of our your tendency to attend only to the population of 600 million. It is only urban consumers and see that you in Kerala that you find that certain cater to the vast silent millions who essential commodities are distributed live in the rural areas. Thc other through fair-price shops both in the thing is the manner in which the con- rural and the urban areas—in every sumers in this country today are los- village. If they can do it in the State ing crores of rupees as * result of o f Kerala, why earft you do it fabe or Bh0ft'*tttghniettt9. There is D.G* 1977-7* ASADHA 0, 1880 (SAKA) J>.G* 1977-78 2**

no machinery to go into that. The I would like to mention that these Chatatoaa 6f tfre OMftrtnt* Council df incentives Oh various commddlties 1 India, cm the basis of the reseawh are not being given on a realistic carried out, has already pointed out basis. There ought to be a scrutiny that consumers suffer a loss of nearly for every item of commodity tho- Bs. 2000 crores per year due to short- roughly taking into account the price weighments, because 90 per cent of the commodity concerned. What trade is in private hands. Mr. Ashok is now being done is that a group of Mehta himself suggested—this is al- commodities are taken into account most like the devil quoting the scrip- with the result that some commodities tures, but when a good suggestion is lose their importance. In this con. given, one should not be over-shadow^ nection, I would suggest that smaller ed by pre-conceived notions of who industries, of course, considering the is who and what is what as our Min- price of the commodity, should be ister for Parliamentary Affairs is given preference and more incentive sometimes inclined to be—that the facilities. wholesale trade in foodgrains should be taken over because this is where it starts, as far Bs the foodgrains are Further, as the Ministry is con- concerned. This has been lying in cerned with export and import trade, the archives for a very long time. it is its duty to find out foreign markets, wnich are the commodities that they require from our country and which are the commodities which can Now, there are a whole lot of issues be imported in our country to our of this sort, but I don’t want to take benefit. If certain commodities are up the whole of the extra two hours’ available cheaper in other countries, time that has been allotted for every- it would be worthwhile importing body. I would however like the Min- them. ister to spell out his Government’s policies on the very important issues before the people, especially prices and public distribution system. At present, in the developed coun- tries, there are a lot of labour prob- lems. Right from the raw material stage to the finished goods stage, the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Before I call the next speaker I would request labour charges being very very high in these countries and the problems the Hon. Members to see the cut mo- of strikes, lock-outs etc., the price of tions to the Demands for Grants the finally produced goods becomes that have been circulated and, if they prohibitive to the consumers. desire to move the motions, to send slips to the Table within fifteen mi- nutes indicating the serial number of the Cut Motions to be moved. So such developed countries are now in need of importing parts of some finished materials from other SHRI PABITRA MOHAN PRA- countries. I think our Commerce DHAN (Deogarh): Mr. Deputy- Ministry knows it quite well that in Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the the developed countries this high Demands moved by the hon. Minister. price problem has happened. Now The Commerce Ministry is incharge the Commerce Ministry should sug- of exports and imports. Government gest to the Industries Ministry that is subsidising exports to a large extent such high price commodities are to by way of incentives to the exporters. be produced in oar country compara- These incentives include cash assis- tively at lower price and such com- tance and assistance in the form of modities are to be esqported to deve- replenishment licences. loped countries as Japan, USA, TJSfSft, 243 D-G-» 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78

[Shri Pabitra Mohan Pradhan] ocean of corruption. It is a den of Germany, France or UK or some thieves. other European countries. They should think on these lines. India is SHRI PABITRA MOHAN PRA- a country which has the raw material DHAN: In selecting the parties and' and the man power and which has the exhibits there is some favouri- the skilled man power; but we want tism. Favour is shown to certain the industry. Although we have the parties. Exhibits in the exhibitions man power, the raw material, we are of such persons to whom the have not yet progressed so much as people of the Ministry want to show to establish so many industries to favour. My demand is that due care produce goods which are at present must be taken at the time of selection required by other developed coun- of the commodities, so that better tries, and especially the labour- exhibits are found out and exhibited intensive goods the prices of which there to achieve better results. are prohibitive to the consumer. So, I suggest to the hon. Minister to sug- Quality goods are normally not ex- gest to the Industries Ministry that hibited. This is because of nepotism it should intensively and extensively and favouritism. Whosoever known organize such industries. They may person comes and approaches the be smaller industries or medium in- Department or the person concerned, dusries, to produce such goods such gets an opportunity to send the com- as components, automobile parts, modity for exhibition. ferrous and non-ferrous castings and forgings and there are so many small things. For this purpose, our Selection of firms and exhibits go trade missions and trade representa- by patronage. Patronage system tives may be asked to find markets should be avoided. Stricter control for us so that our goods produced at may be exercised to ensure that the a cheaper rate may very easily be exhibits which are sent abroad should sold with good profits. be of a high quality. This Commerce Ministry is in There must be a close co-ordina- charge of trade fairs and exhibitions. tion between the trade fair authori- A large amount is spent every year ties and the Export Council, the In- on this account. But, unfortunately, dustry and the Chambers of Com- the result is not commensurate with merce. This should be decided by a the money. That means that every co-ordination Committee consisting of year in this hackneyed way we go the said authorities. Other things on spending crores of rupees by send- being equal, preference should be ing our exhibits to foreign exhibi- given to small scale industries and tions and fairs but the result is not industries which are located in the achieved in proportion to the ex- backward areas provided the produce penditure we incur on this account. if of high quality. In this work there is a little nepotism and favouritism.... There are small firms which pro- duce better and quality goods. But SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia- they have no means to personally go mond Harbour): A little? to participate in such fairs. They SHRI PABITRA MOHAN PRA- cannot incur the expenditure involv- DHAN: You may say ‘big’ but I do ed. For such persons business con- not think there is very very big tacts in foreign countries should be nepotism, but definitely there is nepo- made by the Departmental authorities. tism and favouritism. I have a complaint to make to the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Com- Minister concerned with regard to merce Ministry is nothing but an refund of export duty by M.M.T.C. 245 D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA «, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78246 *

M.M.T.C takes a lot of time to refund chemical manure. It is a fact that if export duty. The procedure is that you use chemical manure the land thl owners who export the ores have becomes barren after some years. first to deposit export duty. That amount has to be refunded. For 4 Organic manure is necessary. And or 5 or 6 years this export duty so, the oil cake which is an organic deposited by the exporter is not manure should be totally stopped refunded to the owner. Lakhs of from being exported. rupees of such deposit money are I now come to another small thing. blocked up by M.M.T.C. for which That is about export of fish. That is the exporters don’t get any interest. all right. 6ut export of prawn to This money (has been secured by them unlimited quantity is very bad. For from banks, from private persons and us, these are consumer items. Iix so on. For this money he (exporter) Orissa the same was selling at Rs. 6, does not get any interest because of 4, 5 a k.g. three years back. Now the the failure on the part of the MMTC’s same is selling at Rs. 30, 35 and 45 a offices. I say this from my own k.g. As a result, the local people do experience. Although I am not an not get the prawns for their consump- exporter, I was for sometime Minister tion. Whatever they produce in their for Mining and Metals in Orissa. For own area is also exported. That is four years I was there. This ?s un- why I say there must be seme sort excusable corrpution and should be of a restriction i.e. ceiling in export of stopped. prawns. The quantity must be limit- ed for the export purposes so that There is another complaint of mine some prawns are left for the local about the MMTC. This is about the e*- consumption. If this is sold at Rs. 35 port-quota system under which quotas or 45 a k.g. how can you expect the are allowed for owners to export their consumers to purchase that at that ores. This gives scope for MMTC to prohibitive rate for their own use? resort to nepotism, favouritism which These are my suggestions that I am means corruption. This should be making. avoided. The Minister should look into it. With these words. I support all the Demands of the hon. Minister. There is yet another complaint SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR about the MMTC. This is about (Quilon): I beg to move: Manganese, Ferro-Manganese and Silicious-manganese ore. For silicious “That the demand under the head manganese, there is no demand in the ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced country. This is not needed in the to Re. 1.” country. But this is not allowed to [Very high duties imposed on be exported. I do not know the Coffee and Cardamom (1)]. reason for this. They give thousand and one reasons for non-compliance. “That the demand under the head Silicious manganese is lying dumped. ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced Mine owners and producers are put to Re. 1”. to harassment and loss. As the com- [Categorising coconut oil and merce department is in charge of ex- copra as edible oils and oil port and import, the ihon. Minister seeds (2)]. should look to this. “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced So far as export is concerned, I am by Rs. 100.’’ not in favour of export of Oilcake. The farmers are taking to scientific [Necessity of fixing a fair floor cultivation. The farmers are utilising price for rubber (9)]. 2 4 9 » 73W* JWji«E, M, H77 D.G.t) lWp-78

[Shri N. SreeKantan Nairl [Exorbitant export duty im- ‘That the demand under the head posed on coffee and cardamom ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced which wiii adversely affect the by Rs. 100.*’ interests of the growers of these commodities (15) J. [Failure in deleting the Noti- fication dated 17-1-77 regarding “That the demand under the head categorising coconut oil and ^Ministry of Commerce* be reduced copra into edible oil (10]. to Re. 1.*’

‘That the demand under the head [Failure of the Cashew Cor- ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced poration of India in distributing by Rs. 100.’’ the imported cashew nuts taking into account the best interests of [Failure in deleting the Noti- the industry(16)]. fication dated 20-5-77 regarding exemption of import duty on “That the demand under the head coconut oil and copra (11)]. ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced to Re. 1.” SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN (Carmanore): I beg to move: [Failure to protect the hand- “That the demand under the head loom industry from the unhealthy ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced competition of power loom in- to Re. 1.” dustry (17)]. “That the demand under the head [Decision taken by the Govern- ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced ment to reduce the import duty to Re. 1.” on copra and coconut oil with complete disregard to the in- terests of the small farmers who [Failure in strictly enforcing decision to reserve certain varie- produce more than 9 per cent of coconut in India (12)]. ties of production to Hardloom sector which resulted in large “That the demand under the head scale clandestine production of the ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced same by mills (18)]. to Re. 1.” “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced [Failure of Cashew Corporation to Re. 1.” of India to import adequate quantity of raw cashew nuts which resulted in an unprece- [Failure of the S.T.C. in step- dented crisis in cashew processing ping up in a big way and make industry (13)]. purchases of Handloom products and also rubber when there wes a “That the demand under the head big crisis in those industries (19) ]. ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced to Re. 1.” “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced [Failure in checking the price to Re. 1.** T rise in tea by enhancing the ex- port duty on it and making more [Failure in checking the crisis tea available for the consumption in jute industry due to shortage of common people(14)]. of raw jute (20)]. “That the demand under the head ‘That the demand under the head •Ministry of Commerce* be reduced ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced to Re. 1/* to Re. 1." 249 D.G., lW -W ASADHA*, 1899 (BAKA) 1975-33 250

ISfeiktTe to provide renftmera- “That the demand under the head , »tive price to jute growers (Zl]. ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced by Us. 100.” “That the demand under the head ♦Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced [Need to ensure that ‘Ciepe* to He. 1.” produced mainly in Cannanore is [Failure in stopping the closure protected (29)]. of jute mills by the IJM(22)]. “That the demand under the head “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced by Rs. 100.” to Re. 1.” [Need to immediately nationa- [Failure in nationalising the lise the foreign owned tea plan- jute mills (23]. tations in India(30)]. “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced ‘That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced by Rs. 100/’ by Rs. 100.” [Need to make it obligatory for the Rubber manufacturing indus- [Need to provide adequate try to hold two and a half months assistance to deserving planters for requirements of natural rub- re-plantation in old tea gardens ber (24)]. (31)].

“That the demand under the head “That the demand under jtlie head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced by Rs. 100.” by Rs. 100.”

[Need to give early approval to [Need to ensure reasonable the buffer stock scheme formu- price to consumer through a lated by the Rubber Board (25]. system of public distribution of essential commodities(32)]. “That the demand under head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced “That the demand under the head by Rs. 100.” ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced by Rs. 100.” [Need to ensure that prices of [Need to provide statutory rubber products and the prices of minimum price to rubber($8)]. natural rubber are properly co- ordinated (26) ]. “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced “That the demand under the head by Rs. 100.” ‘Ministry of Commerce' be reduced by Rs. 100.” [Need to energise S.T.C. acti- vities in the field of Rubber [Need to provide spraying export (34)]. subsidy and to ensure that this subsidy will be continued(27)]. “That the demand under the head “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced by Rs. 100.** by Rs. 100.” [Need to include rubber among the traditional export items (35)]. [Need to fight effectively the problem of me#ly bug infection “That the demand under the head in Rohiota £Urffee Plantations in ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced North Wyn*d(28)]. by Rs. 100.** 251 D.C.9 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G*i 1977-78 252

[Shri C. K. Chandrappan] ‘That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced [Need to find out new markets t0 Re. 1." abroad for crepe, a variety of handloom (36)]. [Failure to take over and re- open closed textile mills in the “That the demand under the head country such as Lotus Mills, Ministry of Commerce be reduced Podanur (46)]. by Rs, 100 ” “That the demand under the head [Need to find out new markets ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced for coir abroad(37)]. by Rs. 100.” SHRIMATI PARVATHI KR1SHNAN: [Need for steps to check I beg to move: corruption and malpractices in “That the demand under the head the State Trading Corporation ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced (47)]. to Re. 1.” ‘That the demand under the head [Failure to give protection to ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced the small units in match industry by Rs. 100.” in Tamil Nadu by giving con- [Need for measures to protect cessison to buy softwood which handloom weavers from exploi- is at present allowed to giant tation by the larger societies and units (41)]. to ensure regular employment “That the demand under the head and income to them (48)]. ^Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced “That the demand under the head t0 Re. 1.” ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced [Failure to remove discrimina- by Rs. 100/* tory taxes against the hosiery [Need for proper and adequate Industry in Tamil Nadu (42)]. credit to handloom weavers for “That the demand under the head buying looms and adequate help ^Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced to organise export of finished goods to Re. 1.” (49)]. [Failure to take adequate steps “That the demand under the head to enable the hosiery to develop ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced export products (43)] by Rs. 100.” “That the demand under the head [Need for steps to clear accu- ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced mulated handloom stocks (50)]. to Re. 1.” “That the demand under the head [Failure to agree to the un- ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced by Rs. 100.” animous recommendation of the Kerala State Assembly to nation- [Need for steps to provide yarn alise the foreign-owned tea p la n - at controlled prices to handloom tations (44)]. weavers and to check the rise in prices of yarn (51)]. “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce’ be reduced “That the demand under the head to Re. 1/’ ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced by Rs. 100.*’ [Failure to reduce excise duties on hosiery goods and give pro- [Need for steps to set up a net- tection to hosiery manufactures- work of cooperative societies in in the country (45)]. the handloom sector (52)]. 253 D-G., 1977-78 ASADHA 0, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78

“Thut the demand under the head “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce' be reduced ‘Foreign Trade and Export Produc- ,by Rs. 100.” tion’ be reduced to Re. 1.”

[Need io reduce the duty lia- [Failure to adopt measures to bility on cooperative societies expand handloom export and give getting cotton fabrics maufac- help to the cooperative sector in tured by their members on their this regard (59)]. powerlooms in small units of 1 to 4 powerlooms (53)]. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: I beg to move:

“That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Commerce* be reduced “That the demand under the head by Rs. 100.” ‘Ministry of Civil Supplies and Cooperation* be reduced to Re. 1.” [Failure to check malpractices [Failure in setting up a nation- in the synthetic gem manufac- wide public distribution system turing industry (54)]. for effectively fighting the price rise (10)]. “That the demand under the head 'Ministry of Commerce* be reduced “That the demand under the head by Rs. 100.*’ ‘Ministry of Civil Supplies and Cooperation* be reduced to Re. 1.” [Failure to regulate the export and expand the same in the [Failure in strictly enforcing synthetic gem manufacturing fixed price for all items sold in industry (55)]. market and protect the interest of the consumer (11)]. “That the demand under the head ‘ Ministry of Commerce* be reduced SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- by Rs. 100.*’ NAN: I beg to move:

[Hardships of the small power- That the demand under the head loom manufacturers (56)]. ‘Ministry of Civil Supplies anl Cooperation* be reduced to Re. 1.” “That the demand under the head “Ministry of Commerce* be reduced [Failure to nationalise the by Rs. 100.** cooperative sugar industry (12)]. “That the demand under the head [Need -to regularise the licens- ‘Ministry of Civil Supplies and ing of powerloom and give Cooperation* be reduced to Re. I.” adequate protection to the smaller powerloom manufacturers and [Failure to increase the sugar prevent malpractices by textile ration in all ration areas and in magnates (57)]. fair price shops (13)].

“That the demand under the head “That the demand under the head ‘Ministry of Civil Supplies and •Foreign Trade and Export Produc- Cooperation’ be reduced to Re. 1.” tion' be reduced to Re. 1.” [Failure to establish a public [Failure to nationalise the jute distribution system throughout Industry (58)]. the country to ensure supply of 355 D C., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 25ft-

[$nat, Parvatfci Krishnaa] T*k» plwtfaten JntestW’ Con- trary to the profession o f this Gov- essential commodities to the peo- ernment, at page 7t at item 4(13) of ple at reasonable and controlled the Notes on the Demands, the Gov- prices (14)]. ernment declares that for the deve- lopment of plantation industries, the “That the demand under the head Boards have been set up. The most ‘Ministry of Civil Supplies and important of them are tea, coffee, Cooperation* be reduced to Re. 1.” rubber, tobacco and coir.

[Failure to check weighing But, a heavy duty has been imposed measures resulting in loss to con- sumers to the tune of Rs. 2,000 on cardamom and coffee. This point has been agitating us. So, the Minis- crores annually (15)]. ter agreed to look into the matter and of course, he has made a small reduc- “That the demand under the head ‘Civil Supplies and Cooperation be tion in the case of coffee. So far so pood. The question has to be gone reduced to Re. 1.” into once again in regard to both cardamom and coffee. However the [Failure to take steps to check Government seems to be sympathetic the rise in prices of essential com- so far as coffee and cardamom indus- modities (16)] tries are concerned but they are not sympathetic towards the rubber in- “That the demand under the head dustry. We have been demanding ‘Civil Supplies and Cooperation’ be that a fair flour price must be fixed reduced to He. 1.” for the rubber. But, that demand goes on unheeded all these years. [Failure to make available ade- quate supplies of edible oil at After the land reforms, millions o f lower prices (17)] small cultivators have got into this field. They have been divided into small sectors and lands have been “That the demand under the head given to the landless people including, ‘Civil Supplies and Cooperation* be of course, the harijans. The easiest reduced to Re. 1.” thing that can be done here is to plant rubber. When you lower the price o f tea by imposing Excise duty, you do [Failure to check hoarding and- not ofter at the same time a fair price black marketing in edible oils for the rubber growers. Naturally, (18)] the small landless people, who had been made owners of the land, have* to suffer. Kerala is the only State SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR where the land reform was imple- (Quilon): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, mented in letter and spirit. There- the hon. Minister, Shri Mohan Dharia fore, you have to see that a reasonable is a good and a sympathetic man. floor price for rubber is fixed. But, he has to carry out the policy of the Janata Government. In trying to Then there is the Marine Products do so, it so happened that he had to Development authority. That Autho- neglect the States along the sea coast rity has done nothing to help the poor of India. Maybe, the reason is that fishermen. The hu£e mechanised they are non-Hindi speaking areas or, boats, owned by the tycoons, liave en- maybe, it may accidental that the tered the fishing field. The poor fish- Janata wave did not reach these ermen have been left in the lurch. In States* order to compete with the motorised! 257 D G » 1*77-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 258

launches they try to fish in the mon- coconut oil and copra, the Ministry of soon season with the result that Finance have on 20th May, 1977 ex- huridreds of them are drowned. Sir, empted coconut oil under various sec- I would suggest that a system of pat- tions of the Customs Act of 1952, rolling the coast with speed launches Customs Tariff Act of 1975 an^ Fin- be introduce^ so as to see that mech- ance Act of 1976. These exemption anised boats do not fish within the will increase still further the adverse five mile zone from the sea-shore. effect on the price of coconut oil and Also these speed launches must come copra. That will crush the coconut to the rescue of the poor fishermen cultivators. when their boats get capsized. Sir, special facilities must also be given to The Chief Minister and the Agri- the poor fishermen foe marketing their culture Minister of Kerala have re- catch. presented to the hon’ble Minister in person against any liberalisation in Then, Sir, I come to the question of the matter of import of copra and co- handlooms. Sir, it is admitted that conut oil. More than 40 MPs belong- handlooms have not been given pro- ing to the coconut producing areas per treatment. Last year you gave have also represented to the hon’ble subsidy. This year there is no sub- Minister in writing as well as in per- sidy. Out of Rs. 21 crores earmarked son. for loans, only Rs. 5 crores have been 14.00 hrs. sct-apart to State governments for enabling them to advance funds to For the Kerala State which produces Apex Cooperative societies. That more than 70 per cent of the entire amount is inadequate. At least, an- coconut out put in the country, other Rs. 10 crores would be required it is a question of life and death. to tackle the problem of accumulated The vast majority of the produ- handloom stocks, half of which will cers in Kerala are small holders have to be utilised for giving special with holdings of less than one acre. rebate on the sale of handloom cloth. With the implementation of the land Reform Act, another five lakhs of Then, Sir, the treatment being met- Kudikidappukars landless tenants ed out to coconut farmers is the un- have become owners of 5 to 10 cents kindest cut of all. The government of land around their huts with yield- by their notification dated 17th Janu- ing coconut trees. But these Kudi- ary, 1977 have included coconut oil kidappukars and the small farmers and copra in the list of edible oils and will be put to hardship if the Govern- oilseeds. The purpose stated by the ment reduces the prices of coconut government is that they are ‘for direct oil, copra and other coconut pro- human consumption or for refining ducts. When you try to reduce the and blending for direct human con- prices of coconut products, you have sumption’. This description ignores to see that the nut prices do not go the fact that the coconut oil is an down. The only method you have to edible commodity only in the tiny adopt is to see that more imports do State of Kerala. In no other State not take place. In this way, you coconut oil is used for food. Ab- will also be making the Land Reforms out 80 per cent of the coconut Act, which has been implemented by oil produced in the country is the Kerala Government, a meaning- use for industrial purposes—and ful one. The Kerala State that too in Bombay and Gujarat. has implemented the Land Reforms When you try to reduce the prices of Act more successfully and about five coconut by importing coconut oil, you lakhs of poor people who had no land are helping the big industialists of at all previously, have now got some Bombay and Gujarat. Even beyohd place to sleep in and they have got granting permission for import of some yielding coconut trees. 922 L S — 9 259 D-G., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 260 [Shri N. Sreekantan Nair] SHRI A. C. GEORGE (Mukanda- Many cottage industries are there puram): Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I rise like coir from the fibre, handicrafts to congratulate the Ministry of Com- from the she 1, thatching materials merce and the hon. Minister of Com- from the leaves and beams and rafters merce, Civil Supp ies and Cooperation for the houses from the trunk. So, for the outstanding performance of from the root to the top of coconut 1976-77. Sir, if it is any other Minister tree, every thing is put to good use I would have given only six days* in our State. So, this ‘Kalpagavri- credit out of the 365 days. But here ksha’ is the mainstay of the livelihood we have a very able and enlightened of the poor people in Kerala State. man Mr. Mohan Dharia whom I Therefore, I plead that on no account thankfully recollect, was closely as- you should lower the prices of coco- sociated with the planning for the ex- nut oil. Hence I wou'd request the port performance, which we were able hon. Minister to delete coconut oil to achieve in 197U-77. Sir, anybody who and copra from the Notification of the is even distantly associated with the Ministry of Commerce dated 17-1-77 problems of export would knew that and cancel the exemption of import the achievement of Rs. 4981 crores duty under the Notification dated could not be had by just a day’s effort 25-5-77 of the Ministry of Finance. I or a year’s effort. That is why I want would also request the Government oi to repeat that this is the result of India to set up a Coconut Board on the planning and planning was the sub- lines of the Rubber Board. ject with which Mr. Mohan Dharia There is another industry which is was intimately connected and I do re- also very vital to our State. That is collect that he really planned for 76- the Cashew industry. I do r.ot want to 77 and f°r further years ahtad a:)d he apportion the blame or give credit to can feel gratified for that. The whole the Cashew Corporation of India. gamut of export performance was But there is failure on the part of the acieved to a great extent in 75-77. Government in so far getting cashew’ Here :s a year, when I look at the nuts from African countrios is con- report, where, after 72-73 we were cerned. A concerted effort has 4o be able to have a surp'us balance of made at the highest level and sec payment. I remember in 1972-7.J, I that we get sufficient amount of raw was iii the Ministery of Commerce as cashewnut from outside. Otherwise a Deputy Minister; we had svrplus 1,50,000 workers engaged in this in- for the first time in independent dustry would be starving. This is a India. But then later on we had run very serious matter and this should into deficit oi Rs. 700 crores, Rs. 1000 receive top priority. crores and in 1975-76 the deficit was Rs. 1243 crores. Within one yoar, Then, Sir, I have a last point to the heavy deficit was turned into a make, which may be out of context. surplus. The balance of payment of The non-Hindi speaking people of the exports increased by 33.8 cent to Southern States, who have voted Rs. 4981 crores. We are able to reduce against the Janata Party are anxious- imports by 6.8 per cent. And thus we ly watching the performance of this had a surplus balance of payment Government. May I also point out situation of at least Rs. 72 crores. that it will be disastrous for the Sir, this is a picture aboui which we Janata Government to snatch away can be proud and this is a period the bread from the millions of small- when we can plan for the future also. scale coconut farmers, who unfortuna- tely are outside the periphery of the Because of the charitable attitude North and Central Hindi block. The taken by Mr. Mohan Dharia, in spar- integrity and the solidarity of this ing more time for the member, he country itself will be in danger if did not make his introductory romarkg the welfare of these people is not while moving the demand* for grants, cared for . and many of us were denied the bene- 26i D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78

■fit of listening to his ideas. In of its currency which in turn is direct- Jtfye absence of his introductory re- ly proportional to the balance of pay- marks, I have to be guided by his ment. I do not . know how far my earlier pronouncements in various friends or. the know how far my places and more than that by speeches happy about it, but here is a re- of some senior members who spoke port from the World Bank saying that yesterday like Mr. Kanwarlai Gupta India is one country where inflation* and Mr. R. K. Amin and a galaxy of was controlled and it commended our them. In the absense cf your speech export efforts. I can only be guided Dy that. Sir, I am very glad that this Ministry is the steering wheel of tne economy of the country in every s^rse of it be- cause between the Ministry of Com- This achievement of Rs. 4981 crores merce, Civil Supplies and Cboperation, was not possible in a day. It required you contorl the external trade of this hard work and planning day and night country and the internal -trade also. for years. But here we find some You decide what is going lo be the members casually saying, why do we strength of a rupee what is going to need to export? If in a country senior be the purchasing power of a rupee in- members do not think about exports side the country. If I can make a very and foreign trade in a responsible and gentle and subtle remark, I would say sincere manner, woe to that country! that had this Ministry been entrusted This export performance was possible to somebody else, it would have been after long years oi hectic campaigning a havoc. But I am happy that it is in and efforts. One simple word is taken the hands of Mr. Mohan Dharia. Let us for granted. Even a child in the now recollect what was mentioned by country will use the adjective ‘valu- some of the senior Members. able’ when referring to foreign ex- I am feeling really aggrieved when change. The expression ‘valu- I hear the speeches of some hon. able foreign exchange’ is found in members on the other side. Between every speech and correspondence 1971-72 and 1976-77 within a short everywhre. After this proud achieve- span of five years, here is developing ment has been made possible, now country which has increased its ex- some people on the other side are port performances more than three- using the words useless foreign ex- fold from Rs. 1608 crores in 1972-73 change or worthless foreign exchange. to Rs 4980 crores in 1976-77. It may I feel all our efforts ever the years be very easy for some senior members have been wasted when I see this there to decry whatever was done by callous and indifferent attitude of the earlier government. Some people some senior members on the other even had the audacity to say that the side to exports. Their remarks ap- economy has been lef* in shambles. pear to me like the remarks of a Amdist all the calamities of the Mid- small child to its elder brother, “why dle East and the soaring prices of should we work at all?” because the petroleum products—out of Rs. f>000 father has worked hard, earned an crores of imports more than Rs 3000 honest living and achieved economic crores was for petroleum and allied stability. They se^m to me telling products alone—here is a government our Commerce Minister, “What is all which within the short span of five this foreign exchange worth?” years increased the exports three- Unless we had put in very hard fold. Is this leaving the economy in work this achievement would not shanfclesT Our last week’s report is have been possible. I am really al- that our foreign exchange resources armed at the statement of our Home are Rs. 3200 crores. Everybody knows Minister, Shri Charan Singh, who has that the respectability of a country spelt out certain economic policies has very much to do with the strength which have far-reaching consequen- 263 D.G., 1977-78 JUNi ?7 1977 D.G., 1977-78 264 [Shri A. C. George] markets are not built in a day. We ces on our exports also. In 1471- 72, must build the international confi- we exported engineering goods worth dence. That is why I said that we fls. 126 crores. Now it has increased to must go ahead especially in the matter Rs. 550 crores and it has been proved of engfneering goods and projects beyond doubt that by the turn of the can be taken up because we have the decade it would reach Rs. 1000 crores. advantage of consultancy services, we How are we able to export engineer- have the advantage of designing capa- ing good§? Unless the countries who city and people have confidence in our have the purchasing power have con- construction capacity in the interna- fidence in us, they would not purchase tional world. Now everybody knows these goods from us when they get about India’s capabilities. There offers from sophisticated countries. There was a time when there For instance Libya is purchasing tur- were doubts in the minds of many bines and generators from us. Kuwait, international agencies whether with all the gold in it pocket has India can make it. Now we have pro- asked us to build 3300 houses at a ved beyond doubt that with better cost of Rs. 220 crores. technology India can make it better than many. And sometimes there was Sir, the confidence in other countries doubt whether India can supply it. is built by our expertise. Nowadays I During the past 20 months of Emer- find there is a terrific tendency to ex- gency, whatever may be your criticism plain everything by the word in other respects, and I do not in any ‘Gandhian’. Gandhiji did not want to way contribute to them, the discipline pull India back to 17th century. has really brought in confidence in the Gandhiji had heart in the rural areas international market that India can and among the farmers, but in any supply this. I am not going to re- modern farming you have got to im- quest you to go back to the rigours of prove production and naturally it has Emergency, but we were able to effect to be supported by a heavy industry improvement in the industrial field. and a sophisticated industry Earlier people did not know whether and all the new technologies that go we would be able to keep up to the Into. And here are some leaders who shipping schedule and whether we are saying that they are not bothered have given confidence. Let the Com- about it. How did Libya which has merce Ministry see that this confidence got one of the best buying capacities in which is created is not spoiled by the world think of buying our gene- the indifferent or callous attitude. Some rators from BHEL? How do they people said that foreign exchange think of entrusting even the most diffi- is a liability. Sir, this is the exactly like cult task of project construction of certain children who sit back and say airport in the heart of Sahara? In “Our father has earned it; why should this connection, I would like to re- we work? We need not even step out collect that (he Engineering Projects of the house”. So, why should it be India, under the administration of at the cost of internal consumption? Heavy Industries were able to £et f:om I was in charge of Civil Supplies and Kuwait the contract of an Arab Cooperation. I am intimately aware town housing project for the construc- tion of 3,300 houses in stiff competi- of the problems of essential commodi- tion from Japan and South Korea. Did ties. When a country thinks about the Kuwait give this contract gratis? export strategy, there must be proper planning of international operation No. They are convinced by our ex- and of the indigenous operation pertise. There is no use if you take a callous attitude from now on why Even a country like Japan which can should we bother about exports? 1 offer many of the luxuries sometimes exports at the expense of indigenous can understand if export of certain very essential commodities is discour- consumption. Otherwise you will not aged or regulated. But international be able to build up your image in the 3 # D.Q., 1977-78 ASADH^ «,

international market. I am not asking find markets for coffee. At that time' you to take this up, but there must be the export was 23,000 tonnes and the regulation and discipline in this realization was nearly fcs 24 crores. njechanism. Last year we were able to achieve Rs 100 crores in coffee export; but here when you put duty off and on, it does Sir, you may criticise the Congress not help. In coffee, if we have an ^Government for certain things. But I average production of 100,000 tonnes, am sure my good friend, Mr. Mohan our internal consumption is only 45,000 Dharia will not blame the previous go- tonnes, or 50,000 tonnes, It is evident vernment for the type of export stra- that we have an export surplus. Ii tegies that we evolved and which are is clear that we have to dispense with coming to a success. He and his Minis- 50,000 tonnes. Let us therefore, for- try are emboldened to speak about mulate our policies, duties and other Rs. 6,000 crores. It shows laxity. If manipulations keeping in mind the fact you are guided by the advice of some that ultimately we will have to go to friends—it may be attractive i.e. p?ay_ the international market. ing t0 the gallery, and saying that we will not export. But if you are guided This position is applicable to tea by that philosophy, from next year also. The other day Mr. Dharia said and during later years you will be that he requested the growers to set paying for it dearly. apart 80 per cent of the production for domestic market. You cannot Some people talk about cash assis- have it both ways. The projected pro- tance and cash credit, and about the jection is 540 tonnes; 80 per cent of it Rs. 240 crores given as cash assistance. would come to 400-odd tonnes. When In a performance of Rs. 4980 crores, you leave it out, you are left with 108 if you give Rs. 240 crores, it comes million tonnes. Here again, I would only t0 5 per cent. When you think repeat that since tea is an important of achievement and a stability that the and traditional item of export, e\£n currency has brought in and even if after meeting indigenous demand, we you think in terms of Rs. 240 crores of must have a proper planning for in- Jndian rupee payment and the indirect ternational market. We should not benefit achieved by the stability of starve the internal market; but it the currency, it is worth it. As my should not mean closing down export friend Mr. Pai pointed out, we must efforts. The long-term promotional have a review of the rationale of the strategy should not be given up cash assistance. Don’t attack at the root of it. We must have a long-term I need not repeat what has been strategy, so that the exporters can said about cardamom. 70 per cent of it plan well and approach 1979-80 with is grown in Kerala; and in regard to confidence. I would like to repeat the type of duty that we imposed on that in planning, the approach is it, I am not blaming you. I hope you important. From now on, in the inter- will not repeat the mistake of the pre- national field our main exports must vious government. be our skill, our thinking, our know- ledge and our fabrication capacity. When I come to marine products, I All these things will go into the turn- would say that the performance here is key projects and project constructions good in spite of the government. I outside. repeat the words ‘in spite of the gov- ernment’; This year we have an export Now about commodities. I do not worth Rs. 190 crores. From nearly want to repeat what has been said Rs. 11 crores ten years back, it has about coffee. I still recollect that in been brought to this stage. The maxi- November 1970 I myself led a delega- rtium contribution that the govern- tion to the far-eastern countries to ment, various agencies and various 267 D.G., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 268 [Shri A. C. George] need not go in for fresh notifications. ministries made, combined with all In this field it is a golden mine, I their acrobatics was to try and see might say a blue revolution. Normally that the maximum number of obstac- we say that sky is the limit. Here not ies were put. even the horizon is the limit. It is so vast. We have 8 maritime States— Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Yesterday I was reading in the Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Orissa and Economic Times that the Government is Bengal, apart from the Union Territo- thinking of asking for fresh proposals ries of Andaman and Nicobar, Laccadi- for collaboration in deep sea fishing. ves and Goa. With all this long coast This is what I did in 1971, asking for line, here is this great wealth waiting fresh proposals. And in 1977 Shri for the final decision of your policy. Mohan Dharia is asking for fresh pro- posals for deep sea fishing. Fish is an The fresh notification has to come by the 20th. I was really pained oecause interesting specie which will not wait in 1971, I remember, I was being as- for the finalisation of the Government sociated with a notification for a of India’s policy. Right now it is fresh proposal. So, for God’s sake, do evident from the figures that our maxi- not send it to the Agriculture Ministry. mum fishing is only less than 10 per Then you will see the end of it. Then cent. At the same time, we have you will need the assistance of the extended our territorial limit to 200 Mining Ministry to unearth it. Do not miles. So, we have achieved the right. send it to the Agriculture Ministry. Because of the richness of the Indian ocean and the Bay of Bengal, Koreans, the Spanish, the Japanese, almost Then I come t0 rubber. My good every fishing country worth its name friend, Shri Sreekantan Nair, has al- has begun its operation there and it ready referred to it. I would request will definitely pay them. We are going you to recollect that eight years back on with different proposals, Polish. this country was importing rubber. Soviet, Spanish, various proposals. Nearly two lakhs of small farmers by their ingenuity and hard work made I do not know whether I will get this country seJf-sufficient, thus avoid- the opportunity to speak on the Aeri- ing imports, and now we have surplus cuture Ministry; so I want to say here rubber. It is admitted in the Report that the Ernakulam fisheries have itself that there is 55,000 tonnes of taken the most negative attitude. Every surplus rubber. For the purpose of time you bring in a proposal, they will calculating the cost of tyre, the auto- find out hundred reasons why it should mobile tyre manufacturing companies not be done. Their ingenuity in this have given the price as Rs. 10,000 per matter is fantastic. In the matter of tonne and recently they came with a tuna fishing, if we go by the latest threat that they want to increase their figures, it is even anti-national. They prices. Then suddenly you made the see to it that fishing just doe^ not statement that you will not agree to exist. Now again we are asking for increase the statutory price. This in- fresh proposals. How long will it take? crease in price is long overdue. This I was feeling a little glad that the is a vital raw material which we have deadline suggested is 20th July. After been importing 8 or 9 years back and the 20th July, if it is your Ministry now we have a surplus. Do not dis- which is processing it, finally if you turb the present situation. Because, if send it to the Agriculture Ministry, there is the slightest laxify on the part be assured that in 1987 there will be of the farmers, the result will be seen another notification for fresh propo- only next year or the year after, be- sals for deep sea fishing. In the mean cause it is a long-term crop. So, I time, the fishes will either die or will would suggest that you should have be caught by enterprising people, who' a closer look info if. 269 D-G., 1977-78 ASADHA 6, v899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78

I will end up with coconut. In the fpri ir tftoT t qT piattef of coconut we are in a very confusing situation. The confusion is that we Keralites and our neighbours here take coconut oil as edible oil, sta 5r 5(fT but out of a production of roughly 210,000 tonnes oly qf^roraT x\^ % 70,000—only one-third—which is con- f w I I TT3R ^ if gff 3RT35T sumed for edible purposes. I cannct say that it is not an edible oil, but it sjifrnT | sr? *r.afr is not predominantly an edib'e oil. Its %■ Of.' ^ 1 ^ 1 % IT WX predominant use, to the extent of two- t w ^cTT T^irT I tR“§ ?h' thirds, is for industrial purposes, «.nd 90 per cent of the edible oil is used in t % farr fei^sr | fa: Kerala. You check up your records, it rfr fa'SRScrr wt s*r.sr *Fr you will see that the responsible Gov- fam5ifa.fr fe^.Tr ernment of Kerala made a strong wn representation that the notification ott q w ^Tffr sfr issued by your Minist.y waiving the to ?n tt ‘ i 7 f ^ m f? m« • import duty on 20th May, 1977, was detrimental to the interests of the State and the cultivators. TOT fa: tiTTTr-fil?!' %qf?f fatT |5T Some people were indifferently men- *mnT"r mwi w, farc. -,ff 1 1 £r tioning that since I was in Civil Sup_ fo r o^-nrP'ifi h ^Tr ^i^cr s.$t plies, I had something to do with the it import of coconut oil. I want to make sfk 3^-rf of; jq w .frr ^TTf^Tr «ff it clear categorically here that it was vfr c;ttt «i• ,r w i 5fT sn?n s r t ^r< derided that edible oil would be im- ported as and when necessary as per q ijf ih ti ! 'c*n Hl«l «flr «rf ir ?Rvqfri' g^r?rr | • jTfter, t ^rffcnar, sTPrfrv # r srk rrrT-f^ff 5FTH ffjpprfan f t *rr w f a I, $tt fi’Frr^j, spr f. ith snrsT qrr w ststft Tm ^mtwnff vt tqT 1 t ir'wr ^ % f t ^rsrrf ^ ft? f^r ?r^t s rm t ^r^crv 271 D.G., 1977-78 JVNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 272

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{*ft *T^TTW] it should be bad now. The Oppo- sitipn should praise him all the more i> <.*11 ^i^rl f> ^41+) ^'T'ST TT for his broad outlook in the budget ij^r ^rr |, of his Ministry. Mlr-HI^T S*TI t t f h f f r r % faq For furthering rural development, VPT^T ?T*T ^RT fHyI(\rT f«IH 'TT V ih cooperative moment ^is an esssential ^RT% % f'KT *ft iT’T’TT factor. We have an institution in Hyderabad built at a cost of several ^frT ^w i q r ^tt qr?TT crores of rupees for training and re- 90-95 w r % tri^ qr ^?rr qfrn search in rural development. But, though I scanned through all the | i *rn% «T7%f5r»r ^frr fT pages of this publication (raised and I fa^TH t^TTT SFprisV shown), I found no mention here of %■ ITT T. rocuice I in Punjab? In Pun- day and night the people of Assam jab, the per hectare production of habitually take tea. They have to cotton i 5 'Mi kg. whereas in Maha- use fannin^s for preparation of their rashtra it is 70-90 kg. per hectare. tea; fannings, the unwanted portion They have no programme for re- of waste after the manufacture of search or at least to produce in India tea, as also dust which is fit to be the raw cotton which is necessary to thrown away. It was the most neg- keep the industry going profitably lected grade at earlier times. But we as also hetlp the other down-stream are compelled to take that because industries like the handloom 'and the tea industry has to cater for the powerloom, and produce cheap cloth external market. They get for a kg. that is required for our poor people. Hs. 82 or 85 in the foreign markets y after having paid all the duties. I do not minimise the necessity of its T h is industry has now become sick export but at the same time, inter- and they want to be helped by the nal consumers must not be ignored. Cotton Corporation of India and the They want good tea. National T e x tile Corporation. T h ey take the licence, but cannot run the 15.00 hrs. industry in a scientific and com- Then, in spite of earning so much mercial way, and then they want to money by the tea industry in foreign hand the loosing one over to the Na- markets, tea gardens are going sick in tional Textile Corporation. The Gov- Jalpaiguri. in Darjeeling and also in ernment should take proper care in Assam. Some planters of gardens have dealing with the whole textile in- gone out. Th?y cannot pay the labour, dustry. They should form a nation- they deposit their provident fund ind al textile policy, which would in- the> cannot produce marketable quali- clude the big textile mills as well as ty tea. Therefore, the Tea Corporation the powerlooms and handlooms in- of India has come to help them and dustry also. I do not deny the role in helping them always some factors that they have played in India for have overplayed. I know of an in- the last one century, but at the same stance where a tea garden worth time, the fate of the powerloom and Rs. 11 lakhs was sold at Rs. 31 lakhs. handloom industry should not be Such things should be checked. Tea left to the mercy of the- cotton yarn Corporation pay public money. 283 D G -» 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78

[ Shri Puma Sitthaj them. They did not help the parties. Then, there is a thing called tea There STC would not cater to the waste which is used for producing needs of small consumers but they caffeine which is good for sickness deal with consumers who are big like headache, fever and pain. But enough—say those who consume 100 the purchase of tea waste is so com- tonnes or more. Because in the for- plicated. Tea can be produced and mation of a State corporation, its sold easily but tea waste cannot be policy should not be ignore small and there is a long-drawn procedure consumers. It should function in as a result of which the tea waste such a way that no consumer, how- which has become useless, which is ever small he may be, showed have fit only to be burnt or thrown away reasons to complain that his case has as a manure is made available for been ignored by the STC. the preparation of caffeine. So, I say the Tea Waste Control Order of 1959 These are my few suggestions. I should be amended in order to enable hope that these will be considered the tea gardens to sell the waste by by the hon. Minister. Demands for self-clearance as in case of Tea itself Grants of the Ministry of Civil Sup- for making caffeine a n d other medi- plies and Cooperation, this time, are cines. I think only caffeine can be a departure for the better and I manufactured from Tea Waste and support the demands. no other things. -

sft nr *rr*MrFtT(*rr ( 5ft ) : Another point I would like to sub- mit is that in the Export Open Gen- ft f*rfa5T eral Licence our government has got sfrr wftalTTVR' ^ a long list of things. OGL 4 contains everything that is available in India f¥*1+^3r SfTT tfJTsfa 7T7TTT ? I and the canalising agency has been mostly the corporations owned by the government of India. I do not oppose i: but at the same time, I- ^ srrwr t far fteft wherever there is any commodity or item like sugar, salt, cement or things % ir iq ' ir sfcT snTfcT 1 like that which are plentiful and qrr? m i i w ? snrrsr ft srfjpnrFrcr available in India and can be sent ft ?rk srrfcryfo *ptfrtt out to the neighbouring countries, they should be removed from OGL 4 or OGL 3 and there should be no srfr*? ^ j m ? jp'T check on people who want to deal in these things and there should be no fann 3TT TOTT I I SJT3T YTRT^cTT compulsion on them that they must 3TcT *Pt t far frnqTT^r *Ft go to the STC and pay them certain tn?T ft 3TR I surcharge or some sort of commis- sion in order to export it. State wrfMiPd^d ?rrfa j © Trading Corporation is a big organi- snT farm | zation and I am afraid that it does tftT ft 3ft Tt not cater to the small consumer. My experience is that several years ago some small newspapers were given t fk fasrPT *nrrot ft^tf *ft sqfarT licences for obtaining newsprint which was an item canalised through rftrr i m

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% ^R«> SW «TT ?fk ^?t5r ^?T ^ *r ^ ft? f^qT «TT V^ftW T | ?t % V W R ^ft^ft % s f t ^ rrw % «r?% | i ^ P - ^TRT fm T | WtT SFFRI t^+ ?ft *Tf ^ ftr ;*I«H+{J ^>T ^ft srnft 11 £*rcr t r o t q^ | ^Cr ^TTT^, ^ 5 H |T H|fr f T^TT ( f r t f < f f e «nr? f 'm | srk ^frerr ^ I 'TT’T ir^ ?RFT | ffT ^1^: tfUTT % -JrTr?^ ^T*T f KTT | I ?T>T ^TT^T ^?TRf % q ^ r 3F>P>rc SHIFT ^T 5T*T % fr »rf »rrf «rf?r ws wrtft % i Ttf 71 *TP? *T fR 2 2 ^qiTT fa?TT fT W I ^q% *rt ^rrO srY »rf ^sfrr *rr# ?T "ft^T ^T>TT % ^?TT^ f rT m k : 1976 12.468 *>d? 42 ^TPsT TTR qr% 5TT TT^r I ^ t^ H e 5TTq-?T 5 ft 19 76% Ttf * Tftr?r ^rr *rrf a r ^ j |f^r 2?T ^rr JjqT 'Piq^l t, f w I, if firfa^T *TTfiT H r*r huiO^t t^r^fTT wrr^qT q:iJT?T f . Hfff ’PfT ^ I 5»T n?^T£TT5pfe % 5pr ^qT !PTq?r % jfr ^ q'r% ? ? ^TTFT f t ^*r% *F? # q f ^FTT ^T^TT f ^ q^^fr^^rfftr^T^^T^r ffir ftr 'TTPrsnr^’T sfr % m g h t ?r«ft. f* rm 5fnjn. ?% qT ^ I TT faqr ■jfRTT f %f^T 3HR «TT fTT sp^tST | I *TTT T.&U q'o % ftr ^ ? t 5r % qr 7»t «rr fr-^jr^r wrr^r^rp[ ?rVrfg?f?T^^Y^tTT^r SHRI K. MAYATHEVER (Dindi- ftrsr?ft ^Tf^tr i gu]): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sii\ I rise to support the Demand for Grants of ?rrf«n: *r ^ it? ^tfcn g ftr the Ministry of Commerce. Sir, first $, f^T% ttft ^ft9T | %.* f 2T I wanted to make certain recommen- dations and suggestions for the con- ^rpfrr i farff *r?T*r ^r TrsrifWT^r^nft sideration of the Government re- ^t5f> ftrf%?2T‘^ ^t5T 5Pt ^5T garding the rise in prices in res- pect of handloom yarn, silk yarn, f?*n *rT Rtr wW ^t zit TTffr artificial silk yarn, etc. in Tamil f*r?flr «ft i ?rrf¥, 3ft ^ r t n «r, Nadu. But now I am happy to know 293 D G -> 1977-78 ASADHA 6/1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78

that we are having a very good per- to the poor masses especially. spn as the Minister of Commerce and Civil Supplies and Co-operation. I am speaking nothing but truth. Now, Sir, I request you to protect Therefore, I expect that the hon. the weavers by taking the following Minister may do something in order steps. First, you must reduce the to protect the interests of the 16 lakhs prices of silk yarn and artificial silk of weavers throughout the country. yarn. Silk Yarn price per kilo, prior In Tamil'Nadu alone there are *Tiore t0 lifting of Emergency, was about or less 6 or 7 lakh weavers, who Rs. 7.50 to Rs. 9.00. Now it has are now in starvation. I submit with risen to about Rs. 15.00 to great respect t0 the hon. Minister Rs. 17..‘i0 per kilo. Their price that 50 per cent of the weavers in have risen after the lifting of Tamil Nadu are now thrown out of Emergency, under your Government. employment. Actually they are not 1 hope you know what are the rea- in employment at all. They were sons and what is the background for dismissed from their services. When the sudden and unfortunate rise in 1 was coming to Delhi to attend the prices of Silk Yarn. Therefore, I Session, I saw with my own eyes suggest that every aspect of protect- that people from my own consti- ing these weavers and creating em- tuency i.e. from Chinnalampatti, and ployment opportunity for these from Aruppukkottai in Ramnad Dis- weavers should be looked 'nto. trict were getting into the trains There are stocks of handloom cloth without bread because they were worth crores of rupees which have thrown out of their jobs. 50 per cent become stagnant in the cooperative of the weavers are in starvation and societies run by the Government another 50 per cent of the weavers through Government aid on the one are under-employed—not unemploy- hand while on the other, there are ed—because of the sudden reduction stocks of handloom cloth available in their wages from 100 per cent to without being sold in the open mar- 50 per cent. I would therefore re- ket or without being purchased by quest the Government to take serious the Government from the private note of that. On behalf of the hand- master weavers and weavers in gen- loom weavers 0f Tamil Nadu, we eral. Therefore, the Government cart made two representations to the come forward, through State Gov- State Minister. On 6-2-1977, we ernments or directly through a Cen- made representation to the Govern- tral Agency to purchase the stocks or of Tamil Nadu under the leader - from the private and public societies ship of Mr. Somasundram M.P. who and private parties. is the leader of our party in the Lok Sabha. Then on 10-3-1977, we made another representation under my Then another thing you can do is leadership. I led some group of peo- that you can give stimulus to the ex- ple consisting of MPs and some lead- ports of handloom cloth. When some ing members of other parties in of the hon. Members like Shri A. C. Tamil Nadu. The Governor had George and Shri N. Sreekantan Nair promised to consider this aspect. But were pleading on this point, they were he did not take any action so far. He laying special emphasis saying that was actually telling that he was con- subsidy was given upto 20 per cent for vening a meeting of the Handloom handloom cloth. I do not know what Director and Assistant Directors and amount of percentage you are giving the concerned officials of the Minis- towards subsidy to give impetus and try. But unfortunately he did not stimulus for the export of handloom take any step fco far. Therefore, I cloth. Therefore you must look into bring in it to the specific notice of the matter to have more and more ex- the hon. M aster who is very kind port to earn foreign exchange to ba- 295 DG., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977*78 296

[Shri K. Mayathevar] cines, those suffering from serious lance the foreign trade as well as to diseases die. The prices of medicines protect the weavers in the local mar- have not been reduced by any gov- ket. ernment—by the British regime, by the Congress regime or by the present Then, Sir, regarding the price sta- regime. Of course, you have come to bilisation, I should say, you are hav- power only recently and you have no ing two kinds of prices in respect of practical experience and background. the paddy prices. I can say you are I call upon the government to take even discriminating in the fixation of serious note of the medicine prices price, for wheat in the north and the and bring them down. Under the 20 paddy or rice in the south. We are point programme and other pro- happy to note that even in the Con- grammes, we found advertisements in gress regime, they have enhanced the papers that prices have been reduced. procurement price of wheat in the But when we go to the shop, we find north. But that Government also that the prices of cloth and other failed to raise the procurement price essential commodities have not been of paddy in the south. Now you are reduced even by a single paisa. On also, following the same policy. You the other hand, the prices are steadily should not commit the same mistake. rising. Therefore, I request the gov- The producers and growers of paddy ernment to bring down the prices of are not able to get profits. They are cloth and other things used by the unable to maintain their day-to-day middle and poor class people. agricultural activities. They are not getting proper proceeds or profits by Now’ once again we are going to selling paddy and other essential com- face inflation. The Congress Govern- modities. Therefore, you must raise ment did teast one good thing, which the procurment price for rice also. you may or may not admit. But truth The people of Tamil Nadu and South is truth. I can condemn the Con- should not feel affected, as we are gress Government for many of its mis- often said to have been affected by takes and misdeeds. But we must ac- language policy by way of certain cept the fact that within 19 months discrimination or indiscrimination. of the emergency, they could contain Therefore, I request the hon. Minister the inflation. It was a wonderful who knows the difficulties of that achievement. But now you have let place and this place—I do not want to loose all the man-eaters, I mean the say South and North—to have without smugglers, hoarders and profiteers. I discrimination, a national policy, a do not mean the lions and tigers in stabilised policy for fixing the prices the forests. It is not lions and tigers of essential commodities, especially alone which are eating the flesh and rice in comparison with the procur- bone of the people. We are having ment price of Wheat in the north. persons who are worse than those ani- Then, Sir, the prices of essential mals here. I am sorry, it may not be commodities like rice, sugar, kerosene parliamentary. I say this just for the oil and all kinds of oils, and other purpose of comparison and not to de- essential commodities like medicine grade any person. We must admit and cloth have been rising. I do not that during the emergency, the prices know why the Government are not at were reduced to sQme extent. Now all considering to reduce the prices of the prices of all essential commodities cloth and medicine. Medicines are have once again shot up. The people even more essential than other essen- of Tamilnadu are unable to get rice, tial commodities. Some poor people oil, kerosene, cloth and other things are unable to get valuable medicines because the prices are not coming to save their lives. Medicin.es have down. You have released the smug- equal priority with eatables. People glers, hoarders and profiteers. But die without eatables. Without medi- you should look into this aspect that D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 298 the prices should not be allowed to f*TTTT 3ft f ^ j r r f , rise. That is the underlying point. Ijlow are you going to arrest the fur- 3Tf Tf^rrj^ft t, TWi ther rise in prices of essential com- ftrTT t I ^ t| *JTt-«ft% JPT mWR f t , modities? Government should take q f^ % *>qf, *?t TO, stringent, firm and stern action against hoarders, black marketeers, profiteers *fktft% fT5t ft, 5FT and smugglers. It is these people who flrfarr w*T3ft f ^ i are responsible for the prices going iRfffar 5ft #3twt t up. They are almost running a paral- lel government. I heard this being d 4 W t ’TrTT ^ 3>qT ^ 5 9TTT 'T f f said by some of you last year. Now TfrTT, *Tf 5ft m ft fa t FT ^nff TT »fk ^TT, full confidence in you and voted for ?, FTCt 9ft fWTft ^ t^ ^ ft?t if you rightly or wrongly. You got the WR majority and it is an opportunity for 5Tf weavers who are seriously and 4'IH if !TT% srnft ^t M 5rft materially aPected t I ?trT W t t & FTW 5TFrft f^ ft f%?ft z z r sr if ^‘r f^T % fam ? f© H’f 't fJ7% 7n 1 -m qr ^vft ^ r^ t 5f^tft€t With these words, Sir. I conclude ?Tft f ^ ? r 1 ^ ?rr«nT^r srrerft % my speech with thanks to the honour- able Deputy-Speaker. w f n r ^ft ^t?t #t ^ | SfYr qt% '^TT ITT g m | I fr P T t ^ F tW Wft r^ft3T

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it is a pity that even in the Class III and Class IV services they are not wffrtr {f % tiTR fesm n i... being taken in large numbers, so much («JWW) ... f

Once the cocoons are produced, the his timely action in not allowing the market difficulty is not there. The deterioration of the price of coffee in Karnataka Government have started the export market. the cocoon markets where not only the Government but private parties also Karnataka is also contributing for participate. But the private sector is the export market in respect of items, not in a position to give cash imme- like handlooms, handicrafts, carda- diately to the farmers with the result mom, certain forest products, plywood, that the farmers are not getting the etc. All these items are being exported. benefits. Secondly, cocoons which are I would request the hon. Minister to produced in rain-fled areas, do not see that the protection given to these contain more silk. Therefore, not only commodities is further extended. on account of fluctuations in the vaga- ries of nature but 0n account of fluc- Coming back again to the silk in tuations in the price structure also dustry, the tarifl protection is given the reelers sometimes are duped when only upto 1977 or 1978. Unless the prices are prevailing at a higher you extend the tarifl protection to the level. The merchants take advantage. silk industry by another 10 years, you Therefore, the Karnataka Govern- will not be able to protect this in- have suggested the establishment of dustry. The silk industry, as you are a silk bank in Bangalore through the aware, is labour oriented and nearly Karnataka Development Silk Market- HA million people are engaged. I would ing Society and for that, they have request the hon. Minister to see that asked for financial aid from the Cen- the tariff protection is further ex- tre. I would request the Minister to tended. look into this thing so that fluctuations are avoided and the producers gM their due and the silk reelers arc not With regard to the export of certain duped and the weavers get the s^k food items like rice bran and oil cakt* at a price which is reasonable for which are being exported. I suggest weaving. Therefore, I would request that these two items may be exclude I the Minister to look into the proposal l'rom the export list. The rice bran and of the Karnataka Government ana the oil cake are required for lh? manu- see that they are helped. facture of feedstuff for cows and buffa- loes, for the animals. The prices of these feedstuffs of animals have gone Now, with regard to irrigation faci- beyond the reach of the rearers. There- lities in Mulberry area, the World fore. I want these items to be excludeo Bank has already agreed to finance from the export list. some of the schemes. There, coopera- tive societies have been registered and they are looking to you for financial As regards sugar, there is 65 per aid. I wish that the World Bank comes cent levy sugar and 35 per cent is forward and sees that these societies allowed for free market sale. There are financed very early. is a difference in price with regard to levy sugar in the southern States and that of sugar produced in the northern Karnataka is producing nearly States. As you are aware, in the 1.05,000 tonnes of coffee. More than southern States, the sugar content, the 50 per cent of it is being exported and sucrose content, is more and they the rest is utilised for internal con- produce more sugar per unit quantity sumption. There was a hue and cry where as in the northern States it is for the reduction of export duty on not so. Therefore, if you want to en^ coffee. I saw in the press that the courage sugar industry, the sugar co- Government have already taken a operatives have to be encouraged in decision to reduce the export duty. I Maharashtra, Andhra, Karnataka and once again thank the hon. Minister for Tamil Nadu so that the productivity 307 D.G., 197'-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 308

[Shri B. Rachaiah]

With regard to horticultural indust- # ^ rrrfa ’TifFrf’I'TT ry, fruits like bananas, mangoes, pine- wrm STRT i f ?T% I apples, apricots and dry fruits like almonds and walnuts are exported. ?rpr q-f^if^rr if tft?? There is a lar^e scope for export of these items by encouraging the farmers faf^fr ip tt I tfft: to grow more and more of these i*cms *nft % 1 fiTffr to give them incentives by wav of s pt r t *ft faqr t o t | %fa«T srn* loans on concessional interest and al;o by giving them all the necessary in- farRmir fTH^r t i *rrc- puts at a cheaper rate. T^wff % ffrrs- *?t I'fer ^'tft ^FrrftFri % * r m The imported cotton costs more with ^ f I # *Ftf 5qfa=FPT ^ n f t ^ the result that the Government has to give them some subsidy. Instead o: ” sra fir w m - i giving more subsidy for the imported fa sr<7RR ^ fain? ^fr ^rfTrrr cotton, I would request the hon. Minis- if f t qr WT^r sftT fT ter to see that for indigenous cotton KF* sff the farmers get more price and to W iT T c j f?rr m give them more incentives so !hnt they sfr sqrcfr *r# %, grow long and medium stable fibre in the country. With these remarks, if 9ft »rf t WtT ?RT 7T5Jff if «ft I would like to congratulate the ?Rft 3JT r^t ?*t% fa^[T SPTTT r r n f f if SPWSrt STCTTf T O * (TTTTT) : ^fr ?T5^ t it? ?t p? w ^

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9TW 7 ®THT sfFTJT 3|fT fa ^^ ifalft tinue, no Government worth the r.^me will be able to save the country from % if 30 -4 0 frr ^rur chaos and confusion and conflict If t, ST 3pTf *JcT ^«r ^ I f sfm the prices of essential commodities are *fffW *ft ^ %# I rft fafa?T not stabilised a.^d if equitable distribu- tion is not ensured, then it would be ir *ft 3zt r t v m r *t h ?i | i S impossible for any Government to ^'iTT fa ^rswft cr*T STat H ^PH hold the country together. €r sfrfa wrr ?rrT fvrerkq- To achieve this laudable objective, i ft *r^FTr t fa ? ' ^nr the Go\ernment should take over the *7^fTRT TT ft, h'T «ft STPT rrrft *Ftf entire foodgrains trade; it shoul 1 not be allowed to continue in the hands of ^pi-il'ai+r dHn' ’TFR T

*Th< original speech was delivered in Tamil. 3i5 O.G., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78

[Shri S. G. Murugaiyan] be allowed to continue. The only solution to this that the export import inexplicable to me that the Janata trade should not be in ^the hands; of Party Government, which swears by the private sector. The Communist the name of Mahatma Gandhi and on Party of India has been repeatedly whose ideals it wants to base all ts emphasising that the exoprt-import- activities, has not come forward with trade should be in the hands of the any constructive scheme for ensuring Government, and I wish to take this remunerative price to the farn'"i>. I opportunity to reiterate the same. would appeal to the hon.Minister- who is known for his dynamism to bestow his personal attention to this perennial In Tamil Nadu and Kerala—in problem of our farmers and give them Maharashtra too—the handloom the much-needed relief. weavers' cooperative societies are functioning fruitfully and effectively. In Tamil Nadu, the essential com- I wish that the Government takes' modities like oil. puls?, cloth, tugar. steps to establish such societies in children's food, etc. are distributed other States also so that the p?*oblems effectively through cooperative socie- of the handloom weavers can be r e - ties. If the common people are to be solved. As has been forcefully put saved from the scourge of price rise, forth by my hon. friend, Shri Maya the essential commodities like, kero- Thevar. the handloom weavers m sene. suji, rice, wheat, pulses etc. must Kumhakonam. Madurai, Coimbatore. be distributed through fair-price shops Salem, Ramanathapuram and Tirune- established throughout the length and lveli are undergoing untold miseries. breadth of the country by the Gcwrn The handlooms are not similar pro ment. If this is not done, then the lection as that of powerloorr; grievances of the people can never 1 e Numerous families of handloom weaver? redressed by any Government that may have been uprooted from their home-- come to power. toads and they have lost their liveli- Sir, the Super Bazars which have hood. There is severe compelitior* been established in metropolitan cen- between powerlooms and handloom:* tres and other urban areas are ^rvhi? In Tamil Nadu, big industrialists who only the well-to-do in the society. i he are not bound by any rules an'l re Government must come forward to set gulations have a free hand in havji^; up such Super Markets in the rural as many unauthorised powerlooms ,v parts of our country. The hon. Minis- they like. The price of cotton is fixed ter recently issued a statement that by them. The price of yarn is fixed 1000 Janata shops would be opened by them. While the cotton-grover Will these 1000 Janata shops be able to denied remunerative price, the mill- cater to the needs of 60 crores of our owner is getting fancy price for the people? Even if he established 60.000 yam. The industrialists are soleity re- Janata shops, the needs of 60 crores sponsible for this grave situation. This of people can never be met through should not be allowed to continue. these Janata shops. Similarly, nobody know's how m&ri\ mills are producing artificial silk yarn Coming now to commercial crops and who fixes its price. I have no like sugarcane, groundnut, cotton, jute, hesitation in saying that large scale pepper, rubber etc., it is really reget- deception is being practised in this table that even these commo litie.s matter too, and black-market; ug is which earn valuable foreign exchange rampant. do not get remunerative prices. It is unfortunate that their prices are fixed I would suggest that certain varie- by someone sitting somewhere, which ties of cloth must be exclusively re- state of affairs. tTie Government also served for the handloom and certain seems to be in a coma so far as this is others for powerlooms; there should concerned. This situation should not be no infringement of such reserva.- D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-7831 tions. I would like to request the I have seen recently in the news- hon. Minister that he should stren- paper that the bon. Minister has gthen the handloom weavers’ coope- stated that there should be no place rative societies through which alone for political partisanship in the co- they will be able to protect them- operative set-up. I welcome this selves from the predatory power- wholesome approach for the success of cooperative set-up. The coopera- looms. tive societies must be rid of all poli- I demand that the cooperative sec- tical bickerings. All the formers and tor must be given more funds. The the agricultural labour must be made recommendations of Sivaraman Com- the members of such societies. mittee made in 1973 must be imple- Sir, fish has come to occupy a pre- mented without any further d^lay. In eminent place in the whole gamut of 1874 the production of handloom cloth foodgrains and it is imperative that was of the order of 2200 million metre fisheries must be developed. The valued at Rs. 800 crores. We do not Tamil Nadu Fisheries Cooperative So- know what it is today. In Maharash- ciety is not functioning properly. It tra the Housing Societies are work- is in the clutches of a coterie and ing very well. Such Housing Socie- the poor fishermen are denied any ties should be established in all other benefit from this institution meant States of the country. for their uplift. They were previous- ly getting power-driven vessels, net The agriculturist has now to pay etc., but now nothing is being given Rs. 12.50 for a loan of Rs. 100 which to them. This Society must be imme- he gets from the Cooperative Credit diately reorganised so that the poor Societies. This is an exorbitant rate fishermen are able to get their re- of interest. If the agriculturist is quirements. unable to pay back this loan on ac- count of failure of harvest, his cattle While expressing my grateful is taken away, his seeds are confis- thanks to you for giving me an op- cated and the loan is recovered in portunity to participate in this dis- this compulsory manner. The cussion, I would like to end my speech by emphasising the need for agriculturist is to suffer both for strengthening the cooperative sector natural and unnatural causes. The rate of interest must be reduced. Sir, which alone can help the Icommon I have personal knowledge that only people of our country. a handful of agriculturists are able to 16.35 hrs. get loans for purchasing cattle to [Shri Sonu Singh Paul i n t h e plough. The Government must en- C h a i r ] sure that all the farmers are able to get loans for purchasing cattle to Tro TTmft f a f : (^TFPT7t ) : plough. In Tamil Nadu the Tenancy 'fterfrr *nnrrfa ?pt *t> t Farming Societies are not function- ing properly. The Government should T^t«r T fte sa fa ri sfk % either reorganise them or abolish ir sT'nft =ft m them if they cannot be made to serve ’MV *t«t % «isl ys#n Tt «nn wz the people. Similarly, there is bye- law that the Harijans and the agri- % fa firrT sttt cultural labour must be given con- sumption loan for purchasing essen- ^Trfi Tt s zt r % t, w tial commodities. But it is not being implemented in actual practice. The lift *RTT if *Tft tr^fT w t Government should take initiative in % fsFff % wfhrerr v k wnrr this matter and ensure disbursal of such consumption loans to the Hari- £ I sqTTR TT 5PR- jans and the agricultural labour. 319 D.G., 1971-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 320

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i 6 b d Jjotixmogr Soau] the file. A .sub-Committee wa* form- scandal. $hat is a very important ed- But there was no co-operation thijig because W® have been paying from the Commerce Ministry. Other- for it through our nose. The House wise all the skeletons would have has to

[Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu] lakhs, of course with the help of the only temple in Delhi which they used lor clean common bottom grade tea is to visit till 20th March. A secret cir* Rs. 20 a kilo. They have Imposed a cular went out from Mrs. Gandhi—I small duty of Rs. 5, but that i» not can produce a copy—that their cases going to touch them. The entire AICC should not be pursued. You catch only session at Gauhati was financed by the small fry under COFEPOSA and the tea plantations. So, for Prof. D.P. say you are trying to check smuggling. Chattopadhyaya and company there What about the invoice manipulators? was no problem at all. What happened to His Master’s Voice Coming to the garment industry, the Company of gramaphone records? Union Carbide, Indian Tobacco so many attitude of the government is deplora- of them are there, but no action was ble. There are over 3 lakhs of Muslim taken. So, these Statutory Boards on tailors in West Bengal in Budge Budge, Santoshpur and other areas. All the produce items are a den of vetted in- terests. In fact all these statutory money is being eaten away by middle- Boards are dens of vested interests. men. When they buy cloth, they pay You see big producers dominating, all a lot of money. But when they sell of them without exception. The Fublic the garments, they get only a fraction of the price. The middlemen are get- Accounts Committee had arranged to see that the Coffee Board is recast. ting the money. On the one hand, the What about other Boards? You have to middlemen are getting export incen- have more Members of Parliament into tive. On the other hand, they are these bodies and one thing is the ques- cheating the poor tailors who are living tion of properiety. When there are on starvation diet. Members of Parliament in a Board sitting as ordinary Members, no bu- About the Indian Tobacco Co., would reaucrat should be allowed to chair the the minister take the House into con- meetings because that contradicts the fidence and tell us what was the trou- warrant to precedents. A Joint Secre- ble with the shipment of tobacco which tary sitting over as Chairman of the was rejected abroad and what was the Board where senior Members of Par- invoice manipulation in that? What liament and former Ministers are sit- did they do with the excise duty? I ting as Members is ^lighly improper. can tell you about it, but I do not have It should be done away with. the time. Sir the Public Accounts Committee made a strong recommendation for ex- Another biggest menace which I pansion of coffee areas. We went to have been pointing out here right from Andhra, particularly Srikakulam Dis- 1967 onwards—#Mr. Chavan will bear trict, a tribal area, Very little was me out—is invoice manipulation done there. For Assam, Orissa, West which is biggest economic enemy of Bengal and Andaman Islands which the country. I can assure you we lose are climatically suitable, nothing was nothing short of Rs. 1000 crores a year done. due to invoice manipulation. They do not have any establishment which can Then, Sir, a very interesting thing is scrutinise and check it. They do not instant coffee, viz, Nescafe. You will have an intelligence cell to look into it. be surprised to know that we have Only a private eye like the Pinkerton found out that the price of instant eye can check this invoice manipula- coffee put up by Nestles Products, New tion, which is worse than smuggling. Delhi, is Rs. 34.95 paise per kilo. Do "What happened? Mr. Bharat Singh you know how much you pay today? Singhania was caught for invoice mani- You pay about Rs. 7 /- per 50-grammes pulation, for under-invoicing in Jute tin of Nescafe. That is a multi-national products export. He got out on the organisation and they know how to payment of a paltry sum of Rs. 25 make money out of this. D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA 0. 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 ' 334 .c

Then, you have neglected the coffee f l w iw TOW (VtTCTT) : board workers. For the housing of the m f W 3ft * t wnr coffee board workers and other things you have done nothing. The report is ftr wft % WW* STFTTT % flWTO * revealing meagre grants. Nothing has 5® j? VffpFT ^TT been done. You want to shut down the « i w k ^ ftrcr t t w wRf wra coffee Board workers who work from morning till night. The PAC has given VT TTxTT ^ I JTjf report that in each city or big town a m i r fTTCPTH q?t *fR 3ff TfT | where the population is one lakh or more you should have coffee houses. fpTTT f t ^ Have you done this? No. You have to f 1 m n w f 1 firasft *k+k explain to the House why you have not done that. SftT JRT 3PT-xfflPifeiHl

I particularly want to mention that % o ^ll1H ^5PTT the Tea Board is a dump doll. It has q fr r o R w r wn&r ^ no power. It is a statutory Board. tN ’ Everything has to be dealt with by an Under Secretary or a Deputy Secretary m rt sfsit w it $ m r \ or a Joint Secretary in the Ministry. ^ ^ ift sftr As regards Coffee Board, the Board VTFZ becomes the automatic owner of the coffee beans as soon as they are ready, VVZR (VlfoS* if fTR ^ ^ but for tea it is different. Please ^ 3T3 Sv I cs amend the Act so that the mo- *t1«m ?tt tt§ ^ *ftr ^ eft ?ft *r ment tea comes out of the drier, it becomes the Government property and *ft f I f ^ R i m q t 3?t IT^> ?T5T- the marketing has to be left in the £ f%*T *ft fafTC ITT^TT ^ *ft hands of the Government. Otherwise you cannot do away with the mischief. + ?t rfl*T «r0 5R f ST The Ministry of Commerce is bigger SHRTfW ftr ff | i n w ff^T than the Pacific Ocean. For one Minis- % f^TT MMI ter it is physically impossible to han- dle. I have tabled a motion that there *TT I ^Ptt'1 <111 Hlfd % 1>K»| should be a Ministry for Plantation ^ ts s t t 3ft v w t % arm ft ^ f^R ^?t Affairs at least because the plantation srem f r f r s t f , w k 3*ft has assumed a big proportion in the -country. ir m Phhi+t ^rtw 5 ^ tr % «ft, sftr ? r s t a r % 20 % *r*R MR. SPEAKER. Your time is over. ^+■^1 ^rt ^ft «ft, You please sit down now. ^ h w wrsrt^FR^t^| i ^?r^rF h +»-3 *n %Tft-Sft%^- JTT^T 3rt #JTR f

SHRI JOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, I Will ^B vt ^>t «ftf^r % t h ^ i sit down in one minute. I make all these submissions and I would expect ^ ^>t ^t T^t ^ I that the Minister will also put a floor trwrtt# *fk ?r r % 3ft ^ price on raw jute. Otherwise jute fields will be converted into rice fields. Mr. ^ f t Jr ^ f t % Dhraia. don’t blame us later on. If you I i ^ft^ fw^t ^rr% don’t give a floor price an economic price to the grower for the jute, jute ^ I TK«I ®t^ ®tt' ft?Rf fields will be converted into rice fields and you wil be sorry later on. qr^ s r j t f t >rqT ^ f3ra% z i t 335 D.G, 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 * D.G., 1977-78 3 3 *

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THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE So far as our export* are

[Shri Mohan Dharia] national programme of development When I say this, I am well aware and second is the cost that the society that the question arises where to draw has to bear. Here also, the earlier the line. We want to export—export issue is very much involved and when what? I can very well understand that we plan for our exports, our pro- there were occasions when we had, to grammes of national reconstruction ^Hifice to a great extent as the forei- shall have to be taken care of. Now, iu exchange balance position was there are various areas—I am parti- absolutely uncomfortable, but today cularly talking of the problem of when we are having a comfortable unemployment whatever may the foreign exchange balance position, I industry that we intend to give pro- have no doubt in mv mind that the ex- tection in this country or we want to port strategy should be so planned that develop in this country, all possible the domestic consumer, particularly the care shall have to be taken, whether common man, does not suffer, that we in the field of agriculture or industry, take care of the essential commodities to see that more and more employment required by the common man. When I is generated and while generating this say essential requirements of the com- employment it should be possible for mon man, it also includes the inputs us to achieve the national reconstruc- required for making those goods avai- tion at the one end and also consistent lable. with that programme, we shall have to take care of our exports. So, these So. it is in this context, taking care are basic considerations that the of our domestic needs, that we shall country cannot afford to forget. This have to plan our export strategy. And, should be the broad outline when we as was rightly said by Mr. Pai and think of any policy review. other friends, fortunately India is entering an era where it is possible, I want to make it clear that this whether it is engineering goods, gar- country is now fortunate enough to ments or fisheries, excepting fish re- have a favourable balance and all quired by the common man, there possible efforts shall have to be made being other varieties which we can to see that this speed is not slackened export, and for a country having thou- if we want the country to prosper. sands of miles of sea coast. . . . I car assure the House that we shall SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; Fish is take ail possible care to see that this selling at Rs. 18 a kilo. There must new impetus that we have gained does be a check on that. No matter that not suffer a set-back. you are a vegetarian, you must know that fish is protein diet. Nbw, I am thinking of my Commerce Ministry, for the time being. We have SHRI M. V. KRISHNAPPA (Chikbal- created several agencies like the STC, lapur): Most of the fish that we ex- MMTC, TDA and other subsidiaries. port is not eaten by Bengalis. It is And there are many other instruments prawns. too. These are various instruments SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I would that we have created to take care of like to remove the misunderstanding our exports and imports and to some that I do not eat fish- I can assure extent of our internal as well as ex- the House that whatever is needed for ternal trade. And they are very much domestic consumption as an essential in the public sector. Several things requirement by the common man, so are being said here regarding the far as those exports are concerned, the public sector. It is also alleged that Government shall take care to see that the new Government would not like the needs of the common man are to take care of the public sector. Here, properly satisfied. I would like to make it very clear that Then, we shall have to continue to we have firm faith in the public sector take into account two basic considera- and in order to control the commanding tions that are involved. One is our heights of the economy and to see 341 D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA 8, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78

that the public sector grows, all . already taken certain measures i possible care shall have to be taken so regarding certain individials where that it necessarily attains the required heights in the economy. We cannot there was some prima fade evidence. allow the monopolists to squander and All those cases have been ^ent to the CBI and, on the basis of tlfat investi- ruin the country. In this background, gation, whatever action is j called for it is true that there are certain draw- will be taken. backs, as pointed out by some of the hon. friends from both sides, but we i shall have to be very clear whether When I think of all these ^ubkc we want to remove the drawbacks or sector institutions, whether it is STC we want to allow the public sector to or MMTC, whether it is Jute Corpora- die. The shortcomings will have to be tion, whether it is Tea Board or Coffee removed. This is how we shall proceed Board or Rubber Board, whether it *5 further. Therefore, it is not only an National Textile Corporation or any enquiry that we have ordered in the such institution, I have no doubt in my STC and MMTC but we have also mind that all thege public sector asked the Institute of Management, undertakings shall have to perform an Ahmednbad to study the basic objec- effective role, as an important instru- tives for which these institutions—STC, ment for achieving socio-economic MMTC and their subsidiaries—were transformation in the country. To created and to what extent, there are that extent, whatever modifications certain drawbacks in the functioning are necessary shall be made. But to of these organisations and as to how condemn these very institutions will they could be made efficient in handling be unfair. At the same time, to under- their affairs. The House is well aware mine the work done by them will also that the transactions of the STC have be unfair. Take, for instance, STC. crossed one thousand crores and that As the Minister of Civil Supplies, of the MMTC is nearing one thousand I was facing an acute shortage of oil. crore. It is very much true that licences worth Rs. 540 crores were issued in Under the circumstances, as to how the month of January and February.. . these institutions which are carrying on transactions of the order of Rs. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE (Bombay 1.000 crores could function in an North): On 17th January, one day efficient and effective way, it is in this before the elections were announced. context that we have asked them to make a study. I must say that there are areas where the expenditure could SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I am be contained and there are areas where thankful to the hon. Member for giving more expertise could be inducted the information. Unfortunately, the because it has unfortunatel}' so oil was not imported. It is one thing happened that many persons have been to take care of those who misbehaved inducted without knowing what are the in one area. But to take care of the spheres of activity of MMTC, STC and millions of masses is perhaps more other such institutions. The study will important. I am not here to disclose be conducted on various areas of the figures because that will perhaps operation, including the staff structure, affect the international market. But and, on the basis of the study, prompt I am now prepared to take the House action will be taken. into confidence and say today that more than 90 per cent of the oil is AN HON. MEMBER: What about imported through STC. Now, perhaps, corruption? we may not get the cooperation from the private sector. Whether the co- SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: Sir, I have operation comes or not, the STC will entered into a Ministry which is known take care of the country's requirement. for rampant corruption. I have This is how these institutions can 343 D.G., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 344

[S&ri Mdban Dharia] in the interest of the country. At that SL we should not condemn time, I emphasised for a dialogue lb* instUutipns that are created in the ajjnongst the Prime Minister, Mr* country. Jftyaprakash Narayan and other leaders. Today, I would like to make I must make one point very clear it very clear that ixl case we want to that I am not here to say that during meet various mountainous challenges th* la* 3( years nothing has happened in the country, we shall have to take id tte cointry. I do not accept this into confidence all those who have contention There are several areas faith in the country, all those who whtre the country has made progress; have faith in our democracy and all th#re arc also areas where the country those who have faith in providing has not made much progress. Wherever social justice to the poor people. I had rtiey have failed, we are here to rectify pursued that line then and today it But to say that nothing has I would like to pursue that very line. happened in the country is condemning Those who do not accept thi^ line will the very capacity of the country and be doing great injustice to the younger condemning the very capacity of our generations to come, to the country people. I am not prepared to accept itself and to the poor people. this sort of argument because I know that there are areas and areas where The STC had played a very good this country has made progress. But role at that time when the licences to while making progress, we have to see whom they were given, did not fulfil whether social justice was rendered to their obligations. It was very clear the people. in the order. It says: “ In view of While I was in the Ministry of the shortage ol oil, it has been dec ided Planning, the country, in various areas, to give these licences to the private had made progress, but while making traders to the tune of Rs. 544 crores.” this progress, we have forgotten the In spite of this, it was not done. Now millions of our poor people in the a question is being asked by Mr. country. We have not taken care of Jyotirmoy Bosu and other friends our youngsters. There are millions of what the Government has been doing. masses. More than 70 per cent of our Immediately after my taking over the masses are below the poverty line, and charge, I took care to see that those in this context, we have failed to give who had not imported oil or had not justice to them. entered into any permanent contract, (Interruptions) their licences were cancelled and they should not be given licences. AN HON. MEMBER: This is the progress they have made. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; Who are they? SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: My friends will please forgive me if I say some SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: There thing more. When I was in the were certain cases. (Interruptions) Ministry of Planning, I was one of the That time has gone now. Otherwise persons who insisted within the Gov- publishing the names of those who ernment and with the then Prime committed lesser offences ... I do not Minister, Mrs. Indira Gandhi that know why they have not published when I looked at these various pro- certain names against whom some blems of the country, including enquiries have been instituted. unemployment, poverty, illiteracy and what not, I felt that we would have SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am to think in a very dispassionate way grateful to you. about sixty crores of our people. Leaders belonging to the various MR. SPEAKER: Allow Him to do political parties have to come together that. 345 D G., 19.7.7-78 ASADHA 6, 1*99 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 346

' SHRI MOHAN DHARIA We have (viii) M|s Shree Krishna Oil noted the names of those who are Mills, Bombay. responsible for this. My office was convinced about 13 names. Against (ix) M|s Karachi Khepra AAiils, 13 firms, they had sent the cases to the Bombay—8. Central Bureau of Investigation. Out (x) M|s Ajppejay Private Ltd., of them, six are such persons whose Calcutta—16. cases have been referred to the Finance Ministry because these alleged offences (xi) M|s Kuceanic Solvent Indus- are under the Foreign Exchange ries, Badeshwar, Jamnagar. Regulation Act. (xii) M|s Krishna Oil Cake in - dustries, Porbander Hoad, Upleta. (xiii) M|s Bajrang Lai Amrit- ir *r?r ? kumar, Calcutta—27. STcHT % fair wft ir srnwt ? : 540 v rto *nw ?T T^Fft i SHRI MOHAN DHARIA; Action has f*T?TT^n: been initiated against parties who were suspected of having misutilised licences m j ww f^rr ? issued to them for import of edible oils. Cases of the following 13 parties have SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I don’t been referred to Central Bureau of have the figures now, but I can supply Investigation for detailed enquiry and them later. advice: I was referring to the instruments. (i) M/s. Godrej Soap Limited, I would like to appeal to the House Bombay. that so far as the STC, MMTC and other (ii) M/s. Jamnadas Madhavji & public sector undertakings are con- Co., Jamnagar. cerned, they may not say anything to demoralise them. We shall take (iii) M/s. Jai Hind Oil Mills, care to see that they become more Bombay. effective ultimately. They are our (iv) M/s. Prabhat Solvent Extrac- instruments and they will have to be tion Industries (Private) Limited, sharpened if these instruments are to Manayadar. be effectively used.

(v) M/s. The Vegetable Vitamin SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: We Foods Co. (P) Ltd., Plot No. 108,. know that it is people like C.R. Das 190-B, Soin, Bombay-22. who are sucking our blood. (vi) M/s. Mulji Devshi & Co., House No. 116-Mulh Devshi Build- SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: So far ing, 116-Keshavji Naik Road, as those names are concerned, I would Bombay-9. not like to go into them today. But all such matters wherever there is some evidence have been sent to the Their matters have also been referred Central Bureau of Investigation. to the Director of Enforcement, Ministry of Finance for enquiry un- Now, when we think of imports der the Foreign Exchange Regulation and exports we will also have to take Act. The others are: care of the price-line of the country. It is in this context that so far as our (vii) M|s Kamani Oil Mills, Bom- domestic production ig concerned and bay. our domestic requirements are con-  '*  -81(   '*  

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It down to 12 million tonnes last year. is for both purposes—for internal con- sumption as also for exports. Here These shortages have affected the we have taken care to see that while price line and, therefore, efforts are during 1977 the production of tea will needed to introduce immediate mea- be of the order of 532 million kgs. we sures, mid-term measures, and long- shall see that more tea is made avail- term measures. Now, in that context, able. The exports of tea have been What could be the immediate mea- pegged at least year’s level. This step sures? We have tried our level is taken to see that tea is made avail- best in this respect. It is said: Why able at reasonable price. These are don’t you peg the prices at a particu- some of the urgent measures. I have lar level? Had there been some buf- mentioned these to the House on an fer_stock with the Government, I earlier occasion also and I will not would not have waited for a single take more time of the House. There minute in taking that action, but were certain other measures which without any stock if I peg the prices, were taken immediately. A small what would happen in the market? Committee of Secretaries—Secretary There would be arson, firing and loot- of Agriculture, Planning, Finance and ing in the country. Natural!}’, I had Civil Supplies as also some experts to take care that unless and until I from outside—we constituted to recom- build up the buffed-stock, I cannot mend measures as to how we can peg the prices. We made efforts obtain a better production of cotlon. through STC and I am happy to say oil sedes, pulses and jute taking ad- that the stock of the rapeseed oil is vantage of the present Kharif season 28,000 tonnes and that of soyabeen and also the Rabi season and what- and other oil is 65,000 tonnes and it ever money was needed was m a d e is with that that we have now brought available. When their report came, the price or refined oil to Rs. 8.50. on the very day it was accepter! and implemented. The idea is that SHRI D. D. DESAI (Kaira): How we should have a better crop of these did Government treat the farmers in various commodities of which we are respect of cotton in the year 1975 and falling short...... how did it treat the farmers who pro- duced ground-nut in 1976? They were SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You very heavily punished. are increasing tea production. By that you are going to a m’arket which SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: On this is dominated by the buyers. You point I am very much with Mr. Desai should produce just enough. that when we are importing oils and other things from outside, why should SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I will we not pay more to our own farmers? request my friend' that my reference I am very much with him and I can was not to tea alone. My reference assure him that whatever best price was to cotton, oil seeds and pulses. could be given to the farmers, that He is dreaming somewhere. What shall be the endeavour of mv Minis- can I do?...... (Interruptions) After try and of the Government. all, unfortunately, Mr. Bosu is speak- ing to a new colleague and ^ie is Certain measures have to be taken missing the link altogether. immediately whether it was tea or cotton or oil or pulses. Regarding tea, SHRI T. A. PAI (Udipi): It is good this was the first time that an export that the government asked a com- duty was imposed on tea and besides mittee of Secretaries to go into the they were asked to bring 80 per cent question and recommend measures. of the tea produced into the market. But do they take one commonsenge It has been querried by my friends point of view? Unless it is made 35i D.G., 1977*78 JtTNE ST.-iMV D.G., 1877-78 352

GSiiri T. A. PaiJ 9 made available at reasonable prices. Attractive to the farmer to grow, all That sort of massive system will your official policies will be of no alone be able to take care of it. That avail. It is this attitude that farmer may provide a permanent solution of alone is not a man who does not the problem. require any incentive while every other section of tmr society needs it As the debate was elevated to a that is responsible for all this. national level, it is not possible only for the Government to solve the SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I share problem. The Central Government, very much the hon. Member’s con- the State Governments, all the politi- cern and I do feel that in case we cal parties, the social scientists anfl want the farmers to produce more, various organisations shall have to an incentive price should be given come together. We shall have to and a further guarantee that if the evolve a national policy right from price goes down, a proper support production to distribution and we all price will be given. will be partners in that. That may These are the mid-term measures.. be the only permanent solution. (Interruptions) I am not yielding. In this context that report of mine I patiently sat here and heard all has been sent the various Ministries your speeches and only once when a concerned. It will be up-dated. It will statement was made, I uttered only be properly co-ordinated. I would two sentences. Otherwise I have not very much like the co-operation of at all interfered. So, I will only this House and of the State Govern- expect that the members may give ments. Of course the Cabinet will me the same treatment. take a final decision. In case we could evolve that sort of permanent I was saying that for a country of programme, then alone it would be our size having a population of 65 possible to take care of that. My crores, to tackle this problem of Ministy is very much engaged in that prices and for making available exercise also. "essential suppplies of these articles and commodities that are needed by the I do agree with the concern ex- common man. a permanent system is pressed by many hon. members about needed. That is what I meant, namely the rise in prices. Please bear with a massive distribution system, my me that unless and until we evolve reference is not only to the distribu- such a permanent solution through tion apparatus. When I say massive appropriate measures, it will not be distribution system, in my re- possible to control the price rise. port I have made it very clear and that is what is needed in A mention was made about 1,000 the country which is to have the shops to be opened. I had not articles and commodities required mentioned about those 1,000 shops right from the morning till late at in the context of the massive distribu- night, and what will be the require- tion system. It was a function ment lo-day and what will be organised by a Vaikuntha Mehta Co- requirement in days to come and operative Institution. While speaking years to come. Then we shall have there I said that so far as Super- to think of production pattern. After Bazars are concerned, we are opening that production, we shall have to take in certain places like Connaught Place care of procurement storage, trans- and other posh localities, but what port and distribution. And again if is needed is to open shops for the these articles are to be made available poorer sections of society. It is in this at a reasonable price, the in-puts that context 1 said that instead of opening are required by the Agriculturists these, we have decided to open 1,000 and also by such industries producing shops under the Co-operatives. Here such articles, those inputs should be if the youngesters come forward, we 353 D G -> 1977-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 354 1 would like to give them all the addi- Immediately after my assuming tional help as may be necessary. It office, Kantilal ji came to me is in this context I said that under and said: -Mr. Dharia, please take that scheme a subsidy to the tune of my resignation*. 1 asked ‘why*? He Rs. 2,000 will be made available. As said: ‘I am the Chairman of this against Super Bazars being opened organisation. The Janata Party has in posh localities, I said I am interest- come to power’ . ... ed in the areas where there are jhug- gies, in the areas where there are scheduled castes aind scheduled tribes who are staying in the backward Hmaft vnf Jrrr areas. How are we going to take that ZPT sr??r f : care? We are interested in the poor people who shed tears for the small necessities required by them. Un- 3 3TFTTT f o fortunately, it has been taken that I was going to have 1,000 shops and STtT fffSTfa WT»T % 3TK how I could majnage tint. I may appeal to the House to take into i sromrat ^ | i consideration this new aspect, this new strategy being taken by the # I M sfk ^ ^ Government.

^ tt +'M<*iigV v r r f r Regarding Co-operative movement, I must say today, that this country I I has suffered a severe set back in the past few years. It is true that in certain areas this cooperative move- % ment has done well. But un- jfr W3WT I fortunately, it has been haphazard movement, and as has been pointed out by Shri Shinde and many other members, the malady is over-politi- «TfTI I calisation and over-officialisation of this co-operative movement. If at all we want this co-operative move- f lo w : tTSfr 5ta? | ment to be strengthened and to pros- fTfojT 5(7-*R 51ft I per in the country, what is needed, is commitment to that movement. Whrt is needed is de-officialisation and SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: Kantilal de-politicalisation of the movement. So ji said: ‘The Janata Party has come far as I am concerned, I can assure to power. I am the President of the this House that I shall not try to Gujarat Congress Committee I want bring in any party politics or try to to resign.’ I said ‘I will not accept your play these institutions for the interest resignation I do not look at the co- of Jainata Party and shall see that it operative movement from any politi- is de-politicalised and de-officialised cal angle. If you are working on also. right lines and if your co-operative movement is making progress, then, 18.00 hrs. there is no need for you to resign’. I did not accept his resignation. I Sir, I would like to quote Mr, am quoting it to point out to Kantilal Ghia, who happened to be you that I would like to have the the Chairman of IFCO, that is, Indian cooperation of the whole House in Fertilizer Corporation. It is a co- having this approach so far as the operative venture. co-operative movement is concerned. 922 LS—12. 355 D.G., 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 356

[Shri Mohan Dharia] that the wrong is corrected. We should not discourage this movement. I am very clear in my mind that if On the other hand, we should en- our objective of establishing demo- courage them in every way. I say cratic socialism is to succeed, we this because concentration of econo- should have accept decentralisation mic power leads to dictatorial trends. of economic power anfl here the co- Therefore, we should not allow this operative movement can play a vital concentration to take place. This is role so that our democratic forces one of our primary objectives and I can be properly strengthened in the am sure that the co-operative move- country. I would very much like ment will help us in this direction. that weaker sections are properly represented so far as our co-operative movement is concerned So, Sir these are the broad strate- gies about my Ministry. Now, in the meeting of NAFED which was held recently in Delhi So far as cut motions are concern- this was the first time that the re- ed, there are several cut motions and presentatives of primaries were I have my notes prepared. And I can present here. All of them took part deal with all these cut motions. I in the deliberations. I am speaking suppose nobody wants it. However, about it because nobody should try I must say that in some matters, we to undermine the importance of the have taken certain decisions and, to co-operative movement in the coun- try. On the contrary, we would like that extent, I shall be very brief. I to give all possible help so far as the would like to say that regarding co-operative movement is concerned handloom, one constraint has been because here we have a vital force to removed. That is this. The U.S.A. protect our democracy in the country. had imposed quota restrictions on ou^ We should bring in decentralisation exports of handloom garments to that country. We have been pointing out of power through panchayats and to them through a series of negotia- zilla parishads. We should bring in tions that such a step is not only decentralisation of economic power through the co-operatives. This will illegal in terms of the international go a long way in achieving our agreements on textile trade but also desired objectives. injurious to the interests of the multi- tude of handloom weavers in India. We very often hear a cry saying After considerable efforts, the U.S. this should be nationalised, that Government have recognised the should be nationalised, sugar indus- force in our arguments. I am glad try should be nationalised, textile to inform the House that as a conse- industry should be nationalised, etc. quence, an agreement has been entered The House is aware that I am not a into between us and the United person who is opposed to nationali- States on 17-6-1977 dismantling these sation; an the contrary I believe that quota restrictions on export of hand- nationalisation is one of the instru- loom garments. Henceforth, exports ments for socio-economic change. of handloom garments to U.S.A. will But then there are areas, particularly be free of all quota restrictions. This areas of our agricultural producers, will go a long way because there are to whom we should give every possi- lots of garments which have piled up ble assistance. We should give them and this will give a lot of opportuni- all encouragement and help whether ties to the small-scale industries in they are engaged in agriculture or in our country. any other cooperatives, sugar, tex- tiles, spinning mills and so on. We Regarding the import of coconut should try to strengthen their hands. oil, it has been decided to drastically If there is anything which has gone restrict the amount of coconut oil wrong, we should take care to see to be imported. Orders have been 357 D.G., 1977-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) D.G., 1977-78 358 issued to re-examine the licences so that I want to ask? Otherwise you far issued, assess the extent of con- can't control the fluctuation of prices. tracts made and restrict the amount of licences so far issued. The level of SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I can import duty has been so fixed as to only assure this House that I shall enable the imported oil to be market- take care of all the weavers because able at prices not lower than the pre- I am very much interested in the vailing dometic prices. This should weavers. I cannot take a decision j o give sufficient protection to the the floor of the House. I shall look coconut growers in the country. into their problems.

Regarding rubber, the Government Regarding cashew imports, Mr. Nair is actively considering the issue of has suggested that it should be taken fixation of price of rubber to ensure up at the ministerial level. We used a fair return to the rubber growers. to import cashew, particularly, from It is expected that the Government the African countries and from will be able to announce its decision Tanzamia. Most of those countries on the quamtum of the minimum price have also started processing it. within a few weeks at the most. Naturally, they are relectant to give their cashews because they would like Regarding coffee, as all the Mem- to add to their value. When they bers are aware, a lot of friends from can add to the value of their Kerala State insisted to bring down exports, naturally, they are re- the export duty on coffee. On 12th luctant to give their cashews. February, 1976 export duty on coffee As my hon. friend suggested, I shall was raised from Rs. 50 to Rs. 300 per take the matter with the Ambassador quintal. Subsequently, on 6th or at the level of the High Commis- November, U)76j this was raised to sioner or at the ministerial level. Rs. 1.300 per quintal and on 26th April, 1977 to Rs. 2,200 per quintal. SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR: However, as the international prices They want to earn more profits and started declining, during May, 1977, that is why they bargain with the this import duty was reduced on 18th African countries and come back May, 1977 to Rs. 1,600 per quintal empty-handed. and more recently, on 25th June, 1977 to Rs. 1,100 per quintal. The Govern- SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: As sug- ment is keeping a continuous watch gested by you, I shall take up the on international prices nd will matter even at the ministerial level. consider providing suitable relief as But, by and large, though I only stat- and when the situation so warrants. ed the strategy, I know that it is not possible for me. .. ..(Interruptions) Regarding the rise in price of art silk yarn raised by my friends, I SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: What about had a meeting with all the manu- coconut? facturers of the rayon industry and MR. SPEAKER: Please don’t con- because of my intervention, it has vert it into a question hour. come down by about Rs. 5 per k.g. But, whatever quota was voluntarily SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: Sir, one accepted and was not delivered to more word and I have done. Regard- these weavers by the spinners, that ing the trust in man and trust in quota will also be given. These are trade, I may say that this whole some of the comments that I want to House and this country believes in make. the philosophy of trust in man. It SHRIMATI V. JEYALAKSHMI is in this context that we have in- (Sivakasi): Are you going to intro- creased trust in man. If somebody duce the statutory control on art takes undue advantage of this trust silk yam? That is the only question or somebody misbehaves, as I have 359 D G » 1977-78 JUNE 27, 1977 D.G., 1977-78 360

[Shri Mohan Dharia] was the only difficulty. In principle already stated, those culprits shall be I have no doubt in my mind that dealt with firmly as I have already there should be a direct link between done and also reported the same to the agricultural producer and the the House. consumers. There should be a direct link between the consumers, the Then there is one more important producers and the industrial consu- point about the consultative commit- mers. The middlemen who ?re tak- tee of Parliament so far as my Minis- ing all this profit shall have to be try is concerned. This House will be eliminated gradually. To that ex- happy to know that we have divided tent, I have no doubt in my mind but this consultative committee of forty because of constraints and difficulties members in five groups, namely, naturally there is going to be a dia- foreign trade, plantations, textile and logue between the Chief Minister and jute, civil supplies and cooperation. I the Prime Minister. have decided to give utmost import- ance to these five groups of the con_ MR. SPEAKER: Does anybody sultative committee. So far as these want to put any Cut Motion separate- five groups are concerned, I have al- ly or shall I put them together? ready asked my office to give these groups all possible cooperation. One SOME HON. MEMBERS: All toge- official will be asked to take care of ther. the work of the Committee. I would MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put very much like to take these Mem- all the Cut Motions relating to the bers of Parliament into confidence on Ministry of Commerce to the vote of several issues that are concerned with the House. my Ministry. Cut motions Nos. 1, 2, 9 to 37 and 41 to 59 were put cncl negatived v—^ ih MI MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put STgfrwUiid % sTF ir ® I I the Demands for Grants to the vote. SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: There is The question is: a monopoly procurement scheme in Maharashtra. Basically—as I have “That the respective sums not said earlier while I was in the Minis- exceeding the amounts on Revenue try of Planning—if due justice is to Account and Capital Account shown be rendered to the agriculturist, the in the fourth column of the Order middleman shall have to go. We will Paper be granted to the President be encouraging either their coopera- out of the Consolidated Fund of tives or creating an agency by the India to complete the sums neces- government. This will be the best sary to defray the charges that will solution. Unfortunately, this scheme come in course of payment during got started only in one State and the Year ending the 3lst day of there I had my doubts and I express- March, 1978, in respect of the heads ed the same to the then Chief Minis- of Demands entered in the second ter and also to the present Chief column thereof against Demands Minister, that is, it may not be pos- Nos. 15 and 16 relating to the sible to implement this scheme if ?t Ministry of Commerce.” i$ mad$ applicable to ope State. That The motion was adopted. 3<$I b.G., 19*7-78 ASADHA 6, 1899 (SAKA) £>.G„ 1977-76 36a

Remands for Grants, 1977-78 in respect of the Ministry of Comnirce voted by Lok Sabha.

No. of Nme of Amount of Demand for Grant on Amount of Demand for Grant Demand Demand account voted by the House on voted by the House 30-3-1977

I 2 3 4 Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE 15. Ministry of Com- merce. 48,50,000 97,01,000 16. Foreign Trade and Expert Production i3i>54i90,o dd 105,22,44,000 277,65,39,000 177,19,87,000

MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put all Account and Capital Account shown the Cut Motions moved to the in the fourth column of the Order Demands for Grants of the Ministry Paper be granted to the President of Civil Supplies and Co-operation to out of the Consolidated Fund of vote together. India to complete the sums neces- sary to defray the charges that will Cut Motions Nos. 10 to 18 were put come in course of payment during and negatived. the year ending the 31st day of March, 1978, in respect of the heads of demands entered in the second MR. SPEA K E R : I shall now put column thereof against Demands the Demands for Grants to vote. Nos. 13 and 14 relating to the Mi- The question is: nistry of Civil Supplies and Co- operation.” “That the respective sums not exceeding the amounts on Revenue The motion was adopted.

Demands for Grants. 1977-78 in respect of the Ministry of Civil Supplies and Cooperation Voted by Lok Sabha.

No. of Name of Amount of Demand for Grant on Amount of Demand for Grant Demand Demand account voted by the House on voted by the House. 30-3-1977

I 2 3 4 . Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. MINISTRY OF CIVIL SUPPLIES AND COOPERATION 13. Ministry of Civil Supplies and Co- operation • • |i 2,27,000 *4,53^60 * * 14. Civil Supplies and Cooperation 7,57,74,000 7,21,16,000 15,27,48,000 14*19,32,000 18. 17 hr*. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock on Tuesday, June 28, 1977 / Asadha 7, 1899 (Sakay GMGlPND—L 922LS—3-8- 77—998.