C o n t e n t s [No. 14, Monday, June 27, igjj/Asadha 6, 1899 (Saka) ^ , . Co l u mn s Oral Answers to Questions : ♦Starred Questions Nos. 204, 206 and 208 to 211 • • • j __29 Short Notice Question No. 6 ....................................... 30________33 Written Answers to Questions : Starred Questions Nos. 205, 207 and 212 to 223 • • 33__51 Unstarred Questions Nos. 1804 to 1924, 1926 to 1929, 1931, 1932, 1934. I935> 1937 to 1940 and 1942 to 1962 • 51—202 Papers laid on the Table • .... 203_20^ Assent to Bill • • • 205 Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance— Lock out in the Indian Express and Financial Express,New Delhi 206—29 Election to Committees * 229—34 (i) Advisory Council of Delhi Development Authority • • 229 (ii) Indian Council of Agricultural Research • • 230 (iii) All India Council for Technical Education • • • 230-31 (iv) Council of the Indian Institute of Sciences, Bangalore • 231 (v) General Council of Indian School of Alines, Dhanbad • • 232 Demands for Grants, 1977-78— Ministry of Commerce and Ministry of Civil Supplies and C o o p e r a t io n ...............................................................................234—362 Shrimati Parvathi K r i s h n a n ................................................. 235—41 Shri Pabitra Mohan P r a d h a n ................................................. 241—46 Shri N. Sreekantan N a i r ...........................................................255—59 Shri A. C. George • - ....................................................260—69 •The sign+marked above the name of a Member indicates that the Question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. Co l u mn s Shri Mahi L a i ................................................................................269—79 Shri Puma Sinha ........ 279— 84 Shri Padmacharan S a m a n t s i n h a r ........................................284—92 Shri K. Mayathevar ...................................................................... 292—97 Shrimati Chandravati ....... 297—303 Shri B. Rachaiah ..... 333—307 Shri Jagdambi Prasad Yadav • • 307— 13 Shri S. G. Murugaiyan • • • 313— 18 Dr. Ramji Singh .... ^jg—26 Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu • • • 326—33 Shri R. L. P. Verma • . 33^— 35 Shri Mohan Dharia • • • 337—60 LOK SABHA DEBATES i 2 LOK SABHA done in the Western countries parti- cularly in the U.S.A. We have not won any Nobel Prize for the last 30 Monday, June 27, 1917/Asadha 6, years or so. Would the hon. Minister 1899 (Saka) at least inform us what are the inten- tions of the Government in regard to the provision of teaching Qualifications and research facilities? It seems that The Lok Sabha mpt at Eleven of the the pay-scales and recruitment quali- Clock fications of the teaching posts are con- tradicting with each other. [Mr. S p e a k e r in the Chair] DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS DER: Sir, the decision was taken on Relation of Research Experience for the basis of the report of a Committee University Teachers which was headed by Dr. S. N. Sen, formerly Vice-Chancellor of Calcutta *204. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the University. That Committee recom- Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL mended that for the purpose of teach- WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas- ing in Colleges, or Universities, hold- ed to state: ing of Master’s Degree should not be sufficient. There should be some re- (a) whether the stipulation made search qualification or an advanced by the University Grants Commission study qualification. Only then they regarding research experience for will be able to take up classes in col- University teachers is being relaxed; leges and Universities. That is why the Universities after 2nd November (b) if so, whether this will affect 1974, prescribed that alternatives academic standards; and might be provided not only in regard to Ph. Ds. but in other research work (c) if so, Government’s views there- of equal merit. That has been provid- on? ed, Sir. TEC MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SHRI D. D. DESAI: Js the Minis* SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ter aware that in principle and prac- (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- tice, the difference has widened in DER): (a) to (c). Some people have various Universities, particularly in made a representation that the re- Delhi University, the qualification has quirement of Doctorate degree or re- been brought down to a high Second search work of an equally high stan- Class and Second Class. Now, they dard us a minimum qualification for have again towered the qualification. appointment of teachers in universi- So, what should be done by the Gov- ties should be dispensed with. The ernment especially m view of said matter is being examined. non-availability of University tea- SHRI D. D. DESAI: Sir, recently chers with requisite qualifications? we have waived this qualifications for MR. SPEAKER: What about the the University teachers. Most of the standard of teaching jn tttftartnt .uni- research work done in the world is versities? •022 LS— 1 Oral Answers JUNE 27, 1977 Oral Answers 4 SHRI D. D. DESAI: All these points partial acceptance of the recommenda- should be taken into an overall consi- tions will not do good. deration. I would like the hon. Minis- ter to take the House into confidence MR. SPEAKER: Please do not make and at least let us know what would it a discussion. be the position since this subject is a concurrent subject. I would like to know what he intends to do to im- fa i? : f t m f % f^rtr gfr prove the educational standards and tcFTWH fraffiKT $, see that what he has decided is im- ^ ^'t wfj; fam plemented by Universities. *RT I I ftr$TT ^ SfclFpf f r DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ifT iFrc I ? DER: Sir, I would like to submit that it is true that education is not only DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- a concurrent subject but it has also DER: Sir, in many of the States the been said that so long as the Parlia- scale has been accepted in principle ment does not pass any Act in that but actually in placement has not particular behalf, the State Acts will taken place. We are taking up this prevail. Therefore, large part of edu- matter with the respective State Gov- cation is being governed by State Acts ernments and as soon as many flf these and we are not directly involved. new State Governments are formed. Even then through the University We will discuss the matter with the Grants Commission, we try to set some concerned Education Ministers. standards and the University Grants Commission sends its recommenda- PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Is tions from time to time even to the the hon. Minister aware of the fact State Governments for the purpose of that standards of university and col- prescribing the minimum qualifica- lege education are deteriorating very tions. For the University lecturers, rapidly in our country, and further, as my hon. Friend wanted to know, that the assessment and marking and the minimum qualification prescribed giving of even research degrees vary is “The Doctor’s degree or research enormously from one university to work of an equally high standard and another, so that some of the degrees consistently good academic record are available very cheaply while some with first or high second class master’s are not available at all because their degree in a relevant subject or an standards are high? Will the hon. equivalent degree of a foreign univer- Minister, moreover, tell us whether sity.” Then there is a provision for the answers he has been giving both relaxation as regards the second mat- to the original and supplementary ter viz., first class or high second class questions relate to the University tea- masters degree. If the Selection chers or college teachers or both? Committee is of the view that the re- Further, will he assure the House that search work of a candidate as evident over and above the research degree cither from his thesis or from his pub- qualification requirement, the Govern- lished work is of a high order, it may ment will also see to it that academic relax the second qualification. experience and teaching experience in SHRI D. D. DESAI: The Sen Com- a reputed university are also consi- mission’s report has been accepted by dered worthwhile for qualifying for many the States. The result has the post of a University or a college been an increase in the salary and professor? remuneration of the teachers. But the DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- other part of Sen Commission’s report DER: I would like to submit to the is still not being implemented. The hon. Member very respectfully Oral Answers ASADHA 6, 1899 (SA K A ) Oral Answers 6 through you that the question of de- the son of erstwhile Prime Minister terioration in standards is always a Shrimati Indira Gandhi has substanr matter of opinion and we are not in tial interest, had supplied road rollers « position t0 accept this. Even then, to the D.D.A., Engineering India, Ltd., the University Grants Commission is N.D.M.C. and other Central Govern- also trying its level best to improve ment organisations; if so, the details the standards. So, for college lectu- thereof; rers, the following qualifications have (b) whether any tender was invited been prescribed “first or high second for the purpose and if so, the facts class at master’s degree in a relevant thereof; subject or an equivalent degree of a foreign university or M. Phil, degree (c) whether any inquiry was con- of a recognised university beyond the ducted into the allegations of irregu- master s degree level or published larity in this connection; and work indicating the capacity of a (d) if so, the findings thereof? candidate for independent research.” All these are provided for the pur- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND pose of improvement of the standards.