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1225 Andhra State [ 5 SEP • 1953 ] Bill, 1953 1226 Ala Malkiyat Rights Act, COUNCIL OF STATES 1953. [Placed in Library, see No. S-118/53.] Saturday, 5th September 1953 (ii) The Patiala and East Punjab The Council met at a quarter past States Union Occupancy eight of the clock in the morning, Tenants (Vesting of Pro- MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair. prietary Rights) Act, 1953. [Placed in Library, see No. FELICITATIONS TO MR. CHAIRMAN S-119/53.] DR. P. C. MITRA (Bihar): Mr. THE REPORT OF THE INDIAN GOVERN- Chairman, permit me to hail you on MENT DELEGATION TO THE 36TH SES- this auspicious day of your 65th SION OF THE INTERNATIONAL LABOUR birthday. Long live Dr. Radhakrish- CONFERENCE. nan. (Cheers.) THE LEADER OF THE HOUSE Sitar P. SUNDARAYYA (Madras): (Sinn C. C. BiswAs): On behalf of We, on behalf of our Party, also Shri Abid Ali, I beg to lay on the wish to convey our greetings to you Table a copy of the Report of the on this happy occasion. Indian Government Delegation to the 36th Session of the International THE LEADER OF THE COUNCIL Labour Conference held in Geneva (Sinn C. C. BiswAs): Sir, permit me in June 1953. [Placed in Library, also to offer my felicitations. I was see No. IV R. 0. (175).] not quite sure whether we could do that here, but now that it has been done, I feel it my duty on behalf of THE ANDHRA STATE BILL, 1953— the House to convey to you our continued warmest felicitations. MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very SERI H. N. KUNZRU (Uttar Pra- much for your kind good wishes. desh): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Andhra State Bill, judging from the debates that have taken place in another place and in this House, has been PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE received with mixed feelings. Its advocates have enthusiastically wel- THE PATIALA AND EAST PUNJAB (1) comed the principle on which the Bill STATES UNION ABOLITION OF ALA is based, while others have expressed MALKIYAT ACT, 1953. the fear that the formation of linguis- (2) THE PATIALA AND EAST PUNJAB tic States might lead to the diminu- STATES UNION OCCUPANCY TENANTS tion of that national unity on which (VESTING OF PROPRIETARY RIGHTS) the strength not merely of the Centre ACT, 1953. but of the States depends. I think, Sir, in so far as the formation of THE MINISTER FOR HOME linguistic States leads to the proper AFFAIRS AND STATES (DR. K. N. cultural development of certain areas KArsu): Sir, I beg to lay on the and to the better political education Table a copy each of the following of the people living in those areas, Acts under sub-section (3) of section the step cannot but be welcomed. 3 of the Patiala and East Punjab The principle was recognised by the States Union Legislature (Delegation Congress long ago, and considering of Powers) Act, 1953:— the long history of this demand it was inevitable that sooner or later it (i) The Patiala and East Punjab should have to be complied with. States Union Abolition of But what gives rise to an uneasy 65 CofSD 1227 A n an ra ,state [ UOU NU1L1 JiZU , 19J 1228 [Shri H. N. Kunzru.] Mr. Justice Wanchoo was asked to feeling sometimes is the bitterness report on the financial and other that leads to the separation of one implications of this decision and the linguistic group from another. Read- questions to be considered in imple- ing and listening to the debates that menting it. Probably the Govern- have taken place, I sometimes felt ment realised that the formation of that there was around this question the Andhra State would compel the an atmosphere similar to that which Government of India to deal with a existed between different language deficit State and to provide it with groups in Central Europe when the the funds that it would need to League of Nations was considering carry on its normal administration. the negotiation of treaties for the But I do not know whether they protection of minorities in various realised the extent of the help that European States. Apart from this, they would have to give. Mr. Jus- Sir, when the Home Minister, agree- tice Wanchoo has said in his Report ing with Mr. Justice Wanchoo's re- that according to the calculations commendation, said that a Boundary furnished to him by the Central Commission would be appointed to Finance Ministry, the budgetary make minor rectifications, I again deficit was expected to amount to felt as if we were considering not the about Rs. 5 crores. Even after tak- formation of new States in a country ing into account all new sources of that belonged to us but were really revenue and reduction of expenditure partitioning India or were dealing suggested by the leaders, of the with independent States. I hope, Andhras, the deficit will not amount Sir, that the formation of States on to less than Rs. 21 crores. So far as linguistic grounds will, in course I have been able to understand the of time, lead to the disappearance of Report, this amount does not include these feelings, but it cannot be the expenditure that will necessarily denied by anyone who thinks not be involved in the setting up of a merely of the welfare of the States new administration. How much it but of the progress of the country as will amount to, it is difficult to say, a whole, that the outlook for the though I believe that the Dhar Report present does not inspire that hope thought it might amount to Rs. 50 or with which we ought to regard the Rs. 60 lakhs. future. There is also another ques- tion, Sir, that should be considered Then, although Kurnool may be along with it. However desirable regarded for the present as a tempo- the formation of States on linguistic rary capital, and the formation of grounds may be, I fear it will lead the State of Andhra may have led to political complications in some the Andhras to feel that sooner rather parts of the country. Demands will than later they would be able to be put forward on pseudo-linguistic expand their State, and thus get a grounds which are really based on ready-made capital, there can scarce- political considerations. The Govern- ly be any doubt that the Government ment of India, I fear, will not find will have to incur some expenditure it easy to deal with such claims. on buildings. The Central Govern- However sound their arguments may ment has made it clear that it will be, they will be suspected of discri- not be responsible for the provision minating against the State whose of money needed for capital expendi- demands are not met. ture on buildings in the new capital. But I doubt whether, after creating a new State, which will be faced, at Now, Sir, leaving aside the general the very outset, with a budgetary principles and considering the for- deficit, they will be able to maintain mation of the State of Andhra, the their position long in the face of the principle underlying it had been ac- inevitably insistent demands that will cepted by the Prime Minister before be put forward for money for capi- 1229 Andhra State [ 5 SEP. 1953 ] Bill, 1953 12330 tal expenditure by the new State. any foreign technical help. But we Then there is the question of the have to deal, Sir, with the practical money required for new develop- problem. And I think, Sir, that if ments. I do not know whether the the Government had taken the steps entire sum would be given as a loan that they could have taken under or some of it would be given as a the Constitution and provided for the grant-in-aid. I shall not be surpris- construction of the various canals ed if some of it is given or has to and the hydro-electric works under be given as a grant-in-aid. Now I their own management, it would should like to know whether these have been better for the time being. questions have been considered by Central legislation, without the con- the Government. If they have been sent of the various States, would considered, then, fuller information have made, the Central Government should be given to us about it, wholly responsible for the capital which has not been supplied so far. expenditure that would have had to My hon. friend, the Home Minister, be incurred. They certainly would dwelt on many features and implica- have had to get the consent of the tions of the Andhra State Bill, both States. But considering their power in the other House and in this House, and influence, I do not think that but he was discreetly silent on the it would have been very difficult for financial question, although it was them to get the necessary consent not the least important problem to for the passing of the legislation be considered in connection with the authorising them to construct the formation of the Andhra State. I works that I have referred to, directly am asking for this information, Sir, under their own supervision. I not to put a spoke in the wheel of should like to know, Sir, why this those who want the Andhra State to simple course was not adopted. Per- be formed, for its formation is inevi- haps, the entire responsibility for table, its formation was accepted by the execution of the works by the the Prime Minister in December Government of India would have last, but in order to know how it led to the early materialisation of will affect our ability to carry through the project and would have avoided the Five Year Plan, for the imple- some bitterness that might now be mentation of which, we are already caused.