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2014/15 SESSION of the BERMUDA HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL HANSARD REPORT 11 March 2015 Sitting number 14 of the 2014/15 Session (pages 1455–1572) Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, JP, MP Speaker Disclaimer: The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informational purposes only. The printed version remains the official record. Official Hansard Report 11 March 2015 1455 BERMUDA HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL HANSARD REPORT 11 MARCH 2015 10:05 AM Sitting Number 14 of the 2014/15 Session [Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair] GOVERNMENT OMNIBUS (FARES) AMENDMENT PRAYERS REGULATIONS 2015 [Prayers read by Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speak- Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, with the er] Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Government 2, 4, 6 and 9 March 2015 Omnibus (Fares) Amendment Regulations 2015, pro- posed to be made by the Minister of Tourism Devel- The Speaker: Honourable Members, we would like to confirm the Minutes of March 2nd and March 4th— opment and Transport under section 9 of the Public March 2nd and 4th. Members should have received Transportation Act 1951. those Minutes. Are there any objections or changes neces- The Speaker: Thank you, Minister. sary? Are there any objections to that? I hear none, so that means that the Minutes None. Minister Crockwell, I recognise you for March 2nd and March 4th are confirmed. again. The Minutes for March 6 and March 9 will be deferred. MARINE BOARD (FERRY SERVICES FARES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2015 [Minutes of 2 and 4 March 2015 confirmed] Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR With the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Consti- tution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the The Speaker: There are no messages from the Gov- consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly ernor. the Marine Board (Ferry Services Fares) Amendment Regulations 2015, proposed to be made by the Minis- ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER ter of Tourism Development and Transport under sec- OR MEMBER PRESIDING tion 97 of the Marine Board Act 1962. The Speaker: No announcements of the Speaker. The Speaker: Thank you. Any objections to that? MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE There are none. Thank you, Minister. The Speaker: No message from the Senate. PETITIONS PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE The Speaker: No petitions. The Speaker: The Chair will recognise the Honoura- STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS ble and Learned Member from constituency 31. The AND JUNIOR MINISTERS Minister for Tourism and Transport, Minister Shawn Crockwell, you have the floor. The Speaker: There are no Statements by Ministers. Those matters were inadvertently placed on the Order Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Yes, good morning, Mr. Paper. Speaker. The Speaker: Good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly 1456 11 March 2015 Official Hansard Report REPORTS OF COMMITTEES Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I am sorry. The Speaker: There are none. And we move now to the Question Period. The Speaker: Honourable Member? Minister? QUESTION PERIOD Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, in a previ- ous Parliamentary Question, we provided what the The Speaker: Honourable Members, the first ques- monthly rent was. I received these questions. The to- tions on the Order Paper are in the name of the Mem- tal square footage is not contained in the contract. We ber from constituency 29, MP De Silva. contacted the landlord. They declined to provide that You have the floor. information. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY The Speaker: All right. Thank you. Thank you, Minis- WASHINGTON MALL OFFICE ter. Yes. You have, MP De Silva, a supplementary Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. or the next question? Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House, what is the total square foot- Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary, yes, Mr. age the Bermuda Tourism Authority [BTA] is paying Speaker. for the office and common area square footage for their accommodations at Washington Mall? The Speaker: Yes. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, the total SUPPLEMENTARY square footage of the BTA space is not included in the contract. When contacted for the details requested, Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, the question I have for the landlord, Washington Mall Properties, declined to the Minister is, and of course, the second question share this information. They expressed their concern asks the rates. But how can the amount of square that this is commercially sensitive information, which footage be sensitive, Minister? could potentially cause damage to their business if the terms were known. The Speaker: Yes, Minister? I can state that more than half a dozen prop- erties were looked at. And Washington Mall Properties Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, the infor- was deemed to be the best deal by the team, based mation was not evinced in the contract. The only way on the total rent, the covered fit-out costs and six for me to get that information was to contact the land- months’ rent free. lord. The landlord did not provide the information. I do not know what more you want me to provide. The Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Supplementary, Mr. landlord did not provide the square footage. Speaker. The Speaker: All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mem- The Speaker: Just a minute, Honourable Member. ber. Just one second, please. The Chair will recognise the— [Pause] Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. The Speaker: Yes. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 5, MP Derrick The Speaker: Yes. Good morning. Just one second, Burgess. Supplementary, yes. Honourable Member. Let me, while things quiet down. [Pause] SUPPLEMENTARY All right. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. The Speaker: Speaker. Mr. Speaker, all rentals are based on square Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. footage. Why is this particular property not based on Good morning. square footage? Because when you rent out a proper- ty— The Speaker: Good morning. The Speaker: Ask. Yes, you are asking the Member, SUPPLEMENTARY yes. Bermuda House of Assembly Official Hansard Report 11 March 2015 1457 Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, so the Honoura- is a very simple task to undertake by getting someone ble Minister finds it acceptable that taxpayer funds from the Department of Works and Engineering to have been used, utilised for office space rental, and take a tape measure and quantify, through measuring the— the square footage, so that we can calculate if indeed the rent that is being paid monthly is value for money? The Speaker: Does he find it acceptable? Yes. The Speaker: Thank you, thank you. MP Blakeney. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Does he find it acceptable? Yes, Minister? Now, the landlord, who is receiving taxpayer funds, refuses to reveal because it is a risk to his business. I Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: That is certainly some- am paraphrasing it because . It is a risk to the land- thing we can do, Mr. Speaker. lord’s business to reveal how much taxpayer funds he is receiving on a monthly basis to rent out an office? Is The Speaker: All right. Thank you. that acceptable? Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: But these questions The Speaker: All right. Thank you. Thank you. came last week. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Point of order, Mr. The Speaker: Thank you. Speaker. Point of order. You have a second supplementary? Yes? The Speaker: Yes, Honourable Minister. Mr. Glenn A. Blakeney: Given that it is certainly something that they can do, will the Minister now un- POINT OF ORDER dertake to actually do it? Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, I have al- The Speaker: Minister? ready provided this Honourable House with the monthly rent. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: I will request that the BTA measure the square footage. The Speaker: Yes, yes. The Speaker: Thank you. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: I have already provided Thank you, Honourable Member. that. I provided this Honourable House in a previous Yes, MP from constituency 29. MP De Silva, . They ask me a lot of Parliamentary Questions, so your second question? maybe they forget. But I was asked a few weeks ago, how much are we paying for rent? And the BTA pro- QUESTION 2: BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY vided the monthly rent, and it was broken down. WASHINGTON MALL OFFICE The Speaker: All right. Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please inform Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: So, in terms of the square this Honourable House what square footage rate the footage, I am confident that the BTA team received a BTA is paying for these areas? very good rate. The landlord . Because there were multiple properties that were looked at, and in terms of The Speaker: Minister? what was being offered at the time, this was a very reasonable deal. The landlord does not want to dis- Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, not knowing close what arrangement they entered into with the the square footage, it is hard to answer that question. BTA. The Speaker: Thank you. Thank you. The Speaker: All right. Yes. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 13, MP Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker. While Glenn Blakeney. the Minister has undertaken to get the square footage, so that answer will be forthcoming, and we will look SUPPLEMENTARIES forward to that.