LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Ninth Series, Vol.V; No. 39 Friday, May 11, 1990 Vaisakha 21. J 912 (Saka}

Second Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)

( Yol. V eontain.r NoJ. 31 IO 40)

LO.K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Prlr� · R.6, 6.00 CONTENTS

[Ninth Series, Vol. V. Second Session, 199011912 (SAKA)]

No. 39, Friday, May 11, 1990Naisakha 21, 1912 (SAKA)

COLUMNS

Obituary Reference 1-2

Oral Answers to Questions : 2-30

*Starred Question Nos. 780, 781, 783 and 786 to 789

Written Answers to Questions 31-445

Starred Question Nos. 779, 782. 784. 31-55 785 and 790 to 799

Unstarred Question Nos. 8217 to 8247, 8249 55-430 to 8287 and 8289 to 8451

Papers Laid on the Table 445-448

Message from Rajya Sabha 448

Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Orders 448-449 (Amendment) Bill

As passed by. Rajya Sabha-Laid

Business of the House 449-450

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance 450-472 Glut in the cotton market resulting in heavy tosses to the cotton growers Shri Kadambur M.R.Janardhanan 450 453-458

*The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

CoLUMNS

Shri Sharad Yadav 450 466-472

Shri Banwarilal Purohit 458-461

Shn Uttam Rathpd 461-463

Shn Harish Rawat 464---466

Busmess Advisory Commlttee- 472 Tenth Report-Adopted

Additional duties of EXCise (Goods of Special Importance) 472-473 Amendment Bill-Introduced

Matters Under Rule 377 473-478

(I) Need to construct a brtdge over 'Alk Nallah' 473-474 near Arnla Village, tehstl Ranblr Singh Pura In district Jammu

Shrl Janak Raj Gupta

(II) Need to 8xpedlte work on Jagadalpur- 474-475 Gopalapatnam national highway

Shrt Mankuram Sodhi

(III) Need to convert metre gauge railway line 475-476 between Tnchlrappalll and Nagore into broad gauge

Shn S Stngaravadivel

(IV) Need to Implement the recommendations of 476 Ram Singh CommiSSIOn which probed into construction of channels of Indira Gandhi canal

Shn Bega Ram (iii)

CoLUMNS

(v) Need to take steps to check adulteration of 476-477 petrol and diesel supplied to consumers

Shri Kapil Dev Shastri

(vi) Need to regularise the services of 477-478 Extra-Departmental empk)yees of P & T Department

Prof. Prem Kumar Dhumal

(vii) Need to re-name the Sahar and Santa 478 Cruz Airports as 'Chhatrapati ShivC\ii International Airport' and 'Saba Saheb Ambedkar Airport' respectively

Shri Ram Naik

Der.lands for Grants (General) 1990-91 479-500 501-510 Ministry of Water Resources and Ministry of Agriculture

Shrimati Premlabai Chavan 479-481

Shri Haribhau Shankar Mahale 481-484

Dr. Viswanatham 484-490

Shri Raj MangaJ Mishra 490-494

Shri K.D. Sultanpuri 494-500

Shri Surya Narayan Yadav 495-496 50t-505

Shri Dileep Singh Shuria 505-510

Statement by Minister 500-501 (iv)

CoLUMNS

(i) Grant of Financial Assistance to the Families 500-501 of Those who died due to Cyclone in the States of Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu and The Union Territory of Pondicherry

Shri Upendra Nath Verma

(ii) Incident at Sato Dharampur Village of Fatehpur 510-512 District of Uttar Pradesh

Shri Ram Vilas Paswan

Committee on Private Member's Bills and Resolutions 513

Fourth Report-Adopted

Bills Introduced 513-521

Employment Bill 513-514 by Shri Anadi Charan Das

Building and Construction Workers 514 (Conditions of Employment) Bill

by Shri Satyagopal Misra

Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Order (Amendment) Bill 514-515 (Amendment of the Scheduled)

by Shri Uttamrao Rathod

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 515 (Amenement of Article 155)

by Shri Prakash Kako Brahmbhatt

Mother's lineage Bill 516

by Kumari Uma Sharati (v)

CoLUMNS

Reservation of Vacancies in Posts and Services 516-517 (For Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes) Bill

by Shri Chhaviram Argal

Marginal Farmers and Agricultural Workers 517 Family Security Bill

by Kumari Uma Bharati

Working Women Welfare Bill 518

by Kumari Uma Bharati

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 518-519 (Substitution of new article for article 263)

by Prakash Koko Brambhatt

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 519 (Insertion of new Part XVIA)

by Shri C.P. Mudala Giriyappa

Code of Civil Procedure (Amendment) Bill 519-520 (Amendment of Section 34)

by Shri Mullapally Ramachandran

Provision of Employment Bill 520

by Shri Prakash Koko Brahmbhatt

Citizens (Provl<;lon of Compulsory Housing) Bill 520-521

by Shri Prakash Koko Brahmbhatt

Youth Bill 521-568

by Shri Hannan Mollah (vi)

CoLUMNS

Motion to consider

Shri Radha Mohan Singh 521~25

Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev 52~29

Shri Nakul Nayak 530-532

Prof. Rasa Singh Rawat 532~35

Shri Ram Krishan Yadav 535-537

Shri Vasant Sathe ~ 537-541

Shri Brij Bhushan TIWari 542-546

Prof. Prem Kumar Dhumal 546-547

Shri Chitta Basu 547-549

Shri P.R. Kumaramangalam 550-552

Shri Balgopal Mishra 552-558

Shri A. Vijayaraghawan 558-559

Dr. Viswanathani 55~60

Shri Bhab,ani Shankar Hota 560-562 /

Shr: ?C. Thomas 562~66

Shri Tej Narayan Singh 566--568

HaH-ArrHour discussion 568-592

Computer Assisted Sanskrit Teadling and learning Project

Prof. Vijay Kumar Malhotra 568-572

Shri P.R. Kumaramangalam 572~76 (vii)

COLUMNS

Shri Dau Dayal Joshi 576-579

Shri Harish Rawat 579-581

Dr. Laxminarayan Pandeya 581-582

Prof. M.G.K. Menon 583-592 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA Swami Rameshwaranand was a member of the Third Lok Sabha during 1962-67 representing Karnal constituency of the erstwhile State of Punjab. Friday, May ", 1990/Valsakha 21, 1912 (Saka) A veteran freedom fighter and a social reformer, he was associated with several religious and educational institutions. Swamy Rameshwaranand passed away The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock on 8 May, 1990 at Gharaunda in Haryana, at the ripe age of over 100 years. [MR. SPEAKER In the Chalrj We deeply mourn the loss of these OBITUARY REFERENCES friends and I am sure the House will ,oin me In conveying our condolences to the be- [English] reaved family of Shn Vasisht and the Gu- rukul inmates and other close associates of MR. SPEAKER Honourable members, Swami Rameshwaranand. I have to Inform the House of the sad demise of two of our former colleagues, namely, Shn The House may now stand in silence for Dharam Vir Vaslsht and Swami Ramesh- a short while as a mark of respect to the waranand departed souls.

Shn Dharam Vir Vaslsht was a member (The Members then stood in silence for a of the Sixth lok Sabha dunng 1977-79 rep- short while) rese,1ttng Fandabad constituency of Har- yana Earlier, he was a memberofthe Punjab Legislative Assembly dUring 1952-57 11.05 hrs.

A veteran freedom fighter, Shn Vaslsht ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS participated actively In the QUit India Move- ment In 1942 [TranslatIon] An agriculturist by profeSSion, Shn Vaslsht worked untiringly for rural uplift He Ferro-5l1icon/Ferro-Manganese Indus- was associated With several political and try In Balaghat social organisations In various capacities. He also served as Chairman, General la- + bour Council, Indian NatIOnal Trade Union *780. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PAN- Congress, Fandabad and as Vice-Chair- DEYA: man, Haryana State Khadl and Village In- SHRI PRAHlAD SINGH dustries Board dUring 1969-75 PATEL:

Shn Vaslsht passed away on 28 Apnl, Will the MInister of STEEL AND MINES 1990 at Palwal '" Haryana at the age of 74 be pleased to state. 3 Oral AnSW91S MAY 11, 1990 Oral AnSW91S 4

(a) whether high quality manganese Government. H the hon. Mamber can per- used in the manufacture offerro-siliconlferro- suade the Madhya Pradesh Government to manganese is found in Balaghat district of send us the proposal, we will give very active Madhya Pradesh; consideration to that.

(b) if so, whether Government propose [ Translation] to set up a ferro-siliconlferro-manganese industry in that district; and MR. SPEAKER: Dr. Pandeya, Govern- ment of Madhya Pradesh has not submitted (c) if so, when and where such industry any proposal so far. is proposed to be set up with the name thereof? DR.lAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has said that [English] there is potential in the State for setting up of this industry and I thank him for offering THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES incentives in this regard. H the proposal AND THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS- submitted by the Government of Madhya TICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Pradesh has not been received, I shall make Sir. Reserve of high quality manganese ore an effort to get it sent again. But right now, I used for the production of ferro-manganese, want to know from the hon. Minister whether are found in Balaghat district of Madhya he is considering to set up any industry Pradesh. based on manganese ore in Balaghat district of Madhya Pradesh keeping the view the (b) No, Sir. huge reserves of high quality manganese ore found there? (c) Does not arise. [English] [ Translation] SHRI OINESH GOSWAMI: Sir, as I DR. LA>$MINARAYAN PANDEYA: said, we are encouraging private sector in Reserve of high quality manganese are found this. I like to encourage the private sector in Madhya Pradesh and there is a potential industries in the upstream and the down- for setting up of industry based on this ore. stream because these industries do .not Therefore, I would like to know from the hon. require much capital, and under the present Minister whether the Government of Madhya resource constraints of the Government we Pradesh has sent any proposal for setting up will like that the private sector should come of manganese ore-based industries to the up. I can also inform the hon. Member that so Central Government? far as ferro-manganese is concerned, in order to encourage industrialisation, we have [English] lifted the ban on industrial ferro-silicon which was there. We have broadbanded it so that SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Sir, it is a if somebody wants to diversify and go for fact that in Madhya Pradesh there are good another product-mix, we will have no objec- quantities of manganese ore and the calcu- tion. In fact, a number of applications for lation shows that the ore quantity is to the ferro-silicon have come and I am happy that extent of 6.4 million tonnes and possibly we the largest null]ber has come from Madhya may have a reserve of about 18.1 million Pradesh, and bn that, Madhya Pradesh is tonnes. We are now diversifying and giving likely to have agood number of industries. incentives to the private sedor, both in the But so far as ferro-manganese is concerned, upstream· and the downstream, to come up. as I said, I win like the hon. Member to But so far as my knowledge goes, there is no impress upon his own Government and also proposal at present from the Madhya Pradesh prepare the private sedor industrialists to 5 Oral AnSW91'S VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Oral AnSW9IS 6

set up ferro-manganese industries. We will will be 1.71 lakh tonnes, in 1993-94, it will be definitely give active consideration to that. 1.96 lakh tonnes. Therefore, according to the projection of the Sub-Group, during the [ Translation) 8th Plan period, there will be a gap between availability and the demand. Now, I would DR. KHUSHAL PARASRAM BOPCHE: also like to give this information that out of Mr. Speaker, Sir, similar to the reserves of the applications ~ich have come for the ferro-manganese ore in Balaghat district, ferro-silicon, there are six units which have manganese ore is produced in large quantity applied from Maharashtra. in Bhandara district of Maharashtra which is located adjacent to Balaghat district. I would [Translation) like to know from the hon. Minister whether there is any proposal before the Govern- SHRI SATYNARAVAN JATIYA: Mr. ment to set up an industry based on this ore? Speaker, Sir, metal ores of good quality are found in Madhya Pradesh which can pro- [Eng/ish) duce quality metals. I want to know through you whether efforts are being made to ex- SHRI DlNESH GOSWAMI: Sir, as I ploit our full resources to fulfil the demand of said, we do not intend now to go in for any metal in our country in order to make us seH- State undertaking in this sector and, there- reliant in this field? I have come to know that fore, we would like to encourage the private metal ores are exported to foreign countries sector and a large number of applications for for refinement. Good quality ores of iron, ferro-silicon have come and to my knowl- copper, manganese, aluminium etc. are edge there are some applications even from found in Madhya Pradesh. What arrange- Maharashtra We are giving active consid- ments are being made for referring these erations to them. So far as Maharashtra is ores in our country itself? concerned, in terms of encouraging private sector is concerned. it is always there. But I [English) cannot assure the hon. Member that we will go in for State Undertaking on this. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: The hon. Member has asked an important question. SHRI ASHOK ANANDRAO: Sir. I would We are at the present moment exporting a like to know whether the present production very large quantity of iron ore. We are ex- of ferro-manganese is sufficient to meet the porting about 30 million tonnes of iron ore requirement of the nation. and the present export earning is to the extent of Rs. 890 aores. Now, we are earn- SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Sir. there ing. As. 890 aores by exporting 30 million was a time when. the capacity was more tonnes of iron ore. But if we can convert it into than the demand and that is why I can take finished steel, then we can earn this money the House into confidence that though in at the current international price by produc- 1982 the Manganese Ore India I:.td., con- ing only 1.1 million tonnes or so of steel templated setting.:p ferro-manganese plant which wiD require iron are to the extent of 1.6 at Balaghat. that .ad to be abandoned. But to 1.7 million tonnes or ~ and there is a the situation had changed and according to considerabkt saving. But we are mnfronted the Sub-Group for farro""alloys which was with two mnsiderations. One is the resour~ , constituted for the 8th Plan, the demand for constraint and the second is the foreign projection for 1990-91 as against the availa- exchange requirement. Now, we cannot just bility of 3.34lakh tonnes, is likely to be 4.42 cut down the export thereby reducing the lakh tonnes, meaning thereby that there is a earning. But as a matter of policy, we have possibility of a gap of 1.08 tonnes which will decided that our emphasis will be that the be on the increase, the gap is likely to be to ore is utilised for the purpose of value-added the extent of 1.43 in 1991-92, in 1992-93, it products in themuntry.lnfact, in some of the 7 Oral Answers MAY 11,1990 Oral Answers 8 key ores we have decided to reduce the banded so that an Industrialist can change Import of hlQh quahty ore and Iron ore IS one hiS product mIx Obviously. whatever help of those Items where we Intend to reduce we can give, we WIll give, but It Will depend and put ceiling on the export of high quality upon the applications that come to us We ore (InterruptIOns) Will give favourable consideratIOn to all the applications [ Translation] So far as the other question IS con- MR SPEAKER It IS good that we have cerned, well, I am not In a poSitIOn to reply a number of hon Members by the name 01 now He may give a separate notICe for It Janardan Review of Policy on Direct Foreign Investment

SHRI JANARDAN TIWARI Mr + Speaker, Sir, through you, I want to know *781 SHRI PRAKASH KOKO from the Government whether In view of BRAHMBHATT large reserves of ferro-manganese In Bihar, SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA the Government propose to set up new In- MURTHY dustry based on this ore In Bihar? Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased rEngllsh) to state

SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI Sir, I have (a) whether Government are contem- come from Madhya Pradesh to Bihar But my plating to review the policy on direct foreign answer will be the same that we do not Intend Investments In India to go In for State undertakings on this If my hon friend can persuade hiS own Govern- (b) If so, the reasons therefor mentthere In BIhar and also private Industrt- allsts to set up Industries In Bihar, we will (c) the reasons for poor response from definitely give the highest conslderatton foretgn Investors despite our policy to encourage foreign Investment and vast market lTranslatIon 1 for their products, and

SHRI PRAHLAD SINGH PATEL Mr (d) the specifiC reasons for low foreign Speaker, Sir, the Industrialists are ready to Investment In India and the steps taken to set up Industries In Balaghat I want to know rectify the situation? what faCilities will be provided to them by the Government? I would like to tell the hon THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister that apart from manganese ore, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS· large reserves of copper-ore are also avail TRI) (a) to (d) The Government recognises able there Therefore rry second supple- that foreign Investment can make an Impor- mentary question IS whether Government tant contnbutlon In our effort to moderntse propose to set up any alloy based Industry our Industry, make It more competitive Inter- there? nationally and give It marketing hnks In highly competitive world markets Foreign Invest [English) ment IS welcome In our prtorlty areas of Interest SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI Sir, so far as the first question IS concerned, my an- The Government does not propose to swer Will be the same ObViously we have follow an open door policy of eliminating all now Jlbera"sed, we have made It broad- restrictIons on foreIgn Investment. But there 9 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 are large areas where It IS welcome required In the case of consumer durables and consumer products forergn technology There IS a constant endeayour to make Will not be followed the policy more transparent and to ensure speedier deCISion making SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV Sir, In the reply, the MInister has stated that the [ Translation] Government IS not gomg to follow open door polICY But at the same time, he has stated SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATI that there IS a large scope Can the MInister (Baroda) Mr Speaker, Sir, may I know the specify the areas of scope for thiS tec"'nol- number of countries and the quantum of ogyto come? foreign Investment made by each In our country so far and the total Investment made SHRI ANIL SHASTRI Actually what I out of that In various projects? have stated IS that foreign Investment would be allowed In areas which are In the prrorlty SHRI ANIL SHASTRI Mr Speaker, sector and foreign Investment continues to Sir, an Investment of Rs 316 crores has be regarded as a vehICle of transfer of tech- been made so far nology But, we have selected some areas hke steel Industry , earth-mOVing IndUStry and SHRI PRAKASH KOKO other heavy englneerrng Items where thiS BRAHMBHA IT Mr Speaker, Sir, may I technology Will be allowed know the reasons why no Investment has not been made by the big countries like USA, SHRIBALGOPALMISHRA SIr,lwould U K and France? hke to know from the han Minister as to how much foreign capital has been Invested In SHRI ANIL SHASTRI Mr Speaker, the consumer sector and In the hi-tech sec- Sir, It IS not so As I stated eariler, foreign tor Investment to the tune of Rs 316 crores has been made The United States of America SHRIANllSHASTRI SIr,ldonothave tops among the countries which have made thiS informatIOn now I Will send It to the hon Investment In our country America has In- Member later vested an amount of Rs 6215 lakhs, Eng- land's share of Investment IS Rs 3346 lakhs SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY. Sir, a and that of Japan and Austraha Rs 877 pragmatIC approach IS required so far as the lakhs and Rs 300 lakhs respectIvely Be- foregn Investment IS concerned We have sides, N I Rs have also Invested an amount got paucity of funds for completion of the of Rs 2117 lakhs In India I have wrth me a projects So, In order to complete the proJ- long list of investing countries ects of the State Governments, the Kerala Government has drawn up a scheme whICh [English] IS a very good scheme In that scheme, they have created a fund In whICh 40 per cent of SHRIMATI UMA GAJAPATHI RAJU the share would be for the Non-ReSident Sir, WIll the Minister give us an assurance Indians and the State Government guaran- that only In the region of hi-tech foreign tee would also be prOVided for the comple- Investment will be given prlorrty and not In tion of the projects Now, the Karnataka consumer goods? Government has sent proposals for the completIon of the projects of Krishna and Cauvery I would Irke to know from the hon SHRI ANIL SHASTRI On thIS the Minister whether the Government of IndIa Government's policy IS very clear that for- would give permISsIOn to have the NRI In- eign technology Will be allowed only In those vestment so far as these proJeCts are con- areas where sophisticated technology IS cerned 11 Oral Answers MAY 11,1990 Oral Answers 12

SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: Sir, we have companies come :nto India for investment, always encouraged NRI investment in India their thrust is for do: Ilestie sale and it is not so and if the particular reference made by the much for export. Our policy has been differ- hon. Member is within the framework of our ent·from that of other neighbouring coun- Government's policy, we will give our con- tries. It is not correct to say that foreign sideration. investment has been coming down. I have the figures with me. Of course, the total SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Sir, for- number of collaborations over the period of eign investment in our country is an ex- last three years has come down. But the total tremely sensitive area and we have always investment has gone up. In 1987, it was Rs. been clear that the first priority should be the 107 crores. In 1988, it was As. 239 crores. In protection of our national interests and the 1989, it was As. 316 crores. So, it is three principle of self-reliance. The whole world is times as much as that of the investment becoming inter-dependent and most of the made in 1987. countries are following a pragmatic approach in relations to foreign investment. Even China, About the measures that have already one of the last bastions of conservative been taken, as the hon. Member is aware, communism, is allowing 51 per cent foreign there are two types of applications received klvestment in their domestic industry. Yes- generally. One application is the composite terday. the Government's High Commis- application where foreign collaboration, sIOner in London highlighted the maze of capital goods, industrial licence application bureaucratic procedures and bottlenecks has been submitted by the party, for which which inhibit foreign investment in our coun- there is a Project Approval Board in the try. Ministry of Industry. It is one-stop clearance.

I would like to know from the Govern- Then, there is foreign collaboration which ment, against this background, what are the has to be referred to the Finance Ministry steps contemplated by the Government to and cleared by the Foreign Investment Board. relax the limits as well as streamline the Some of the other irritants whieh the Govern- procedures for foreign investments in prior- ment have tried to remove are--it is a long ity areas of investment in our country. list. One is, the Ministry of Home Affairs has issued instructions to facilitate foreign tech- I would also like to know whether the nicians, managers etc., to get short-term Government would consider establishing visa while their application for long-term visa under the auspices of the Government itself, is under consideration. A decision has been a one-stop service for foreign investors like taken to allow foreign technicians ...... the single-window service, which is being allowed for investors within our oou ntry , in PROF. N.G. RANGA: It is a long reply order to enable the foreign investors to track you are reading. You can keep it on the their projects through the maze of proce- T abte. The hon. Minister goes on read- dures and Government departments in our ing so far, how are we able to follow? country. This is one service they have been asking for. MR. SPEAKER: I am asking him not to read ... SHRI ANILSHASTRI: Ithink, it is wrong to compare India with any other country. ( Intemlptions) Normally, there is a tendency to compare us with Thailand or Indonesia. I would like to SHRI NIRMAl KANTI CHATTERJEE: point out to the han. Member that in the case He says that the answer is very long and why of Thailand and Indonesia and such other does he not lay it on the Table? You may give countnes, the foreign investments are basi- a ruling also that if the question is long, that cally for export, whereas when foreign should also be laid on the Table of the 13 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14

House! (Interruptions) to encourage foreign investment. There is not going to be any change for the time MR. SPEAKER: Order please. being.

SHRI ANll SHASTRI: I think, he does [Translation 1 not mind a long answer. SHRf KIRPAl SINGH: I would like to Foreign oompanies can now apply di- know from the Hon'bIe Minister whether the rectly in their own names for industrial li- N.Rls. who want to invest in the industries, cencelforeign collaboration. They can reply would be encouraged? N.R.Is., especially, and then go in for a joint venture after the the Punjabis, who were refused visa to come' approval. The validity period of foreign col- to Punjab by the previous Government are laboration approvals has been raised to two interested in setting up industries in Punjab. years. Remittances of dividends and royalty What is the policy of the Government in this payments are permissible before final in- regard? come-tax clearance is obtained. It has been decided to permit liaison offices of foreign SHRt ANtl SHASTRI: Under the policy companies to book orders...... (Interrup- of our Government, if anyone from abroad tions) wants to set up an industry in India. he would be allowed to do so. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: He is answering better than the senior Ministers. [English]

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Nirmal Chaner- SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU: I am jee. very happy the hon. Minister has said that we do not have an open door policy on foreign SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE: investment. But there is a problem. During The basic reason tor either having loans the last few years, seeking advantage of our from outside or getting foreign investment is liberalised import policy, the multinationals that our savings rate is low. We want a higher have grown up and we have justified the investment rate in the economy. Now the liberalisation policy because we want to get question does arise that in trying to get to Oljr oountry high-tech technology. The external savings, why is it that we prefer Government's thrust is pro-employment, to foreign investment rather than foreign loans? create more employment This high-tech technology is usually the monopoly of the Part (b) of my question is, whether or multi-nationals who believe in automation. not. in order to get foreign investment, you Therefore, will the hon. Minister review the are going to liberalise the Foreign Exchange situation and see that the growth of the multi- Regulations Act in any manner? nationals is contained and, at the same time, the employment-oriented technology is (b) What amount of outflow and inflow brought to our country through foreign in- due to foreign investment at home has taken vestment policy. place and what are the comparative figures? SHAI ANIL SHASTRI: It is a good SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: The Foreign suggestion and I assure the hon. Member Exchange Regulation Act is not contem- that we will take this into consideration. plated to be revised at the moment. As the han. Member is aware, we are allowing 40% (Translation 1 equity and in places where exports wlll be guaranteed by the foreig" investors. there is DR. SHAllENDRANATH SHRIVAS- no upper limit and it can go up to 100. The TAVA (Patna): It is clear from the figures Government's policy is there and will remain about the investment made by various ooun- 15 Oral Answers MAY 11,1990 Oral Answers 16 tnes gIVen by the hon MInIster that maxI- that a sectIOn of the staff of Bolanglr Anchahk mum Investment has been made by the Gramya Bank, Bolanglr (Orissa) had gone Unrted States of AmerICa I would Irke to on stnke from 22 3 90 to press certain know whether Government consIders It sat- demands The strike has been called off on Isfactory? J would also like to know whether 14490 Government IS In favour of encouragIng American Investment or discouraging rt? 2 The pnnclpal demands made by the What IS the IntentIOn of the Government In OffICers ASSOCiatIOn and staff unIOns relate thiS regard? to the postIng of office bearers of the unions at head office of the bank, provIsion of bipar- SHRI ANIL SHASTRI No country IS tite settlement, matters relating to servICe directly hnked with foreJgn Investment WhICh conditions of messengers, and formulatIOn ever country has made Investment In our of transfer policy and ItS Implementation, country .It has done so under the policy of our Implementation of promotion policy, rein- Government Therefore It IS not our policy to statement of suspended staff, Implementa- encourage or discourage any country tIon of approved benefIts such as house bUilding loan, remote area allowance, OffiCI- [English] ating allowance and group Insurance benefit Withdrawal of alleged vlctlmlsatlOn, proper Strike by Staff of BolangJr Anchalik and sCientific management of Bank's funds Gramya Bank and personnel, etc

*783 SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA Will 3 Government and NABARD have IS- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state sued detaHed Instructions to the Regional Rural Banks from time to time on matters (a) whether the staff of the Bolanglr relating to promotions In the RRBs and for- Anchahk Gramya Bank have been on indefi- mulatIOn of service regulations by each nite strike since 22 March 1990 Regional Rural Bank It IS reported that the demands relating to bad climate allowance (b) what are their pr,nCipal demands as per the rules of Government of Orissa, reVised pay scales and reVised rates of house (c) whether their demands Include staff rent allowance allowed by the Government benefits which have been approved by the of Orissa to Its employees, hvenes to perma- National Bank for Agriculture and Rural nent messengers, hOUSing loans, prOVISion Development (NABARD)/State level forum/ for bIpartite forums for recognIsed workmen Union Government and these benefrts are unIOns, rAlease of Dearness Allowance and being enjOyed by staff members of other Additional Dearness Allowance as per the gramlya banks of Orissa and other States, State Government rules etc have been ful- and filled The management of the Gramm Bank has also agreed to the regularlsatlOn of posts (d) If so, the steps being taken to fulfil of eXisting sweeper and water-boys en- their demands? gaged prIOr to 8 10 84, revIsIon of pay scales In accordance with the deCISIon of the Gov- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ernment of Onssa In respect of their own MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- employees, regular bipartite meeting with TRI) (a) to (d) A statement IS laid on the the representatives of staff Unions, review of Table of the House cases of suspension and transfers on Indi- Vidual merrt etc STATEMENT 4 Norms have also been laid down for The National Bank for Agriculture and the regulansatlOn of the services of messen- Rural Development (NABARD) has reported gers working In the Regional Rural Banks 17 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18

InstructIOns have also been Issued by Minister details In thiS regard because RRBs NABARD with regard to the proper manage- are having certain constraints to function ment of funds by the RRBs The financial Companng the CommerCial Banks, the RRBs positIon of RRBs which are Incurnng losses are confined to function only to finance small IS being monitored by NABARD every qJar- and marginal farmers So Will the poliCies of ter and remedial action IS suggested to them RRBs be changed? Will they be allowed to as well as their sponsor banks function as the Comr1erc'al Banks are func- tIOning? SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA I would like to know from the han Minister whether SHRI ANIL SHASTRI There IS no the employees of Bolanglr Anchallk Gramya move to change the pok.. y In fact the FI- Bank have gIven prevIous notice for the loss nance Minister did make a statement 011 6th of the bank of the concerned authorities anci Aonlln thiS House that there Will not be any what IS the quantum of loss the bank has merger between the RRBs and the Com- sustained due to the strike and IS It that Ir the merCial Banks last financial year the bank has sustained a lOSS of Rs 3 75 crores? SHRIBALGOPALMISHRA Whatabout the loss of Rs 3 75 cr:>res sJbstalned In a SHRI ANIL SHASTRI SII I am aware Single year? that the han Member as In the past has taken up the cause of er1ployees 01 this SHRI ANIL ShASTRI About this Infor- partIcular Bank I can 'ully appreciate his '11atlor i Will lE't the Member know exactly concern But! am pleased to lnform th2' the latpr on matter has stnce been settled This IT'atter was referred-lathe Supreme Cour: and the SHRI MANGARAJ MALLIK I was Supreme COurt had given a verdict that this worKing In the Pun Gramm Bank I was should be decIded by a tribunal The tnbJnal working there as a Manager In that bank, gave Its awaro on 30th Aprtl 1990 which there was only one clerk So, I was working states fha! the emoloyees Will get the pay- troIT, 10 a IT! ttl, night I would like to know s<;ales at the State level-level of the Slate from the hon Minister whether there IS- employees pay as per the State Law up to dlsparrty In the scales of pay In the RRBs 31 st August 1987 Thereafter they are now when compared with the other nationalised treated on par with the pay-scales of other banks For thiS ·~ason, I think the RRBs CommerCial Banks officers are not dOing their work properly So, the Bank IS also sustaining loss I think the SHRI BAlGOPAL MISHRA Sir I did tr,bunal has given the verdIct that their pay- not get the reply about the loss sustained by scales should be equal to that If the nation- the Bank In my first question, I nave asked alised banks What steps the Government whether the BanK has sustained a loss of Rs are taking to equalise the pay-scales of the 3 75 crores In a Single year I would also like officers of RRBs With that of the other nation- to know whether the Government would alised bank employees conSider stoPPing the procedure of sendIng deputatlOntsts to a bank or from the Parent SHRI ANIL SHASTRI ThiS IS a good Bank because the persons who are on suggestions We WI" look Into It deputatIOn are least concerned about the Viability of the units, they are more con- SHRI 0 AMAT I would like to know cerned about their own Viability and benefits from the han Minister whether vlctlmlsatlon Will the Government conSider thiS POint? IS Infllclted upon the employees In such FInally, In the reply, the han MinIster has banks? also stated that the RRBs In the country are Incurring losses They are losing establish- SHRIANILSHASTRI lamnotawareof ments I would Irke to know from the han any vlctlmlsatlon and If there IS anythrng 19 Oral Answers MAY 11, 1990 Oral AnswelS 20

which has come to the notice of the hon. THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Member let him take it up separately. We will AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE take necessary action. (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): There is no restriction under the Monopolies Act against DR. VISWANATHAM: Is there any the Minister. Sir, the Monopolies Act should proposal of merging the Rural Banks with the be applicable against the Minister also. He is nationalised banks? monopolising the Question Hour.

MR. SPEAKER: This question relates MR. SPEAKER: That is the luck of the to the Bolangir Bank. Does the Minister want new Minister. to reply? ( Interruptions) SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: There IS no proposai !n fact, the Finance Minister made [Translation] a statement in the Lok Sabha on 6th Apnl not accepting the proposal for merger Wltf-) the Regularisation of Daily Wage Employ- nationalised banks. ees belonging to Scheduled Castes In Customs Training Directorate MR. SPEAKER: Next Ouestion-Q. No. 784 Shn Pyarelal Khandelwal-not "786. SHRITHAN SINGHJATAV: Will present. O. No. 785-Shn R. N. Rakesh- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: not present; Shn Manikrao Hodlya Gavit- not present. Q. No. 786. (a) whether a large number of daily wage employees belonging to Scheduled SHRIMATISUBHASHINIALI: Sir, under Castes have been working as Class IV Rule 48, sub-section (3) even though both employees for more than 10 years in the the Members, who have put the question, Customs Training Directorate; are not present here, I would like to put this question. (b) if so, the number thereof and the reasons for root regularising them so far; and MR. SPEAKER: At the end. (c) when their services are likely to be SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: At regulansed? the end. (Interruptions) THE DEPUTY MINISTFR IN THE MR. SPEAKER: Yes. at the end. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) No, Sir. (Interruptions) (b) and (c). Does not arise. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: It will be a bad precedent. SHRI THAN SINGH JATAV (Bayana): Mr. Speaker, S;r, I would like to know from MR. SPEAKER: But. there is a rule. the Hon'ble Minister the number of Class IV employees belonging to Scheduled Castes ( Interruptions) working in this Training Directorate as compared to Class IV employees belonging to MR. SPEAKER: It IS not allowed. That t~e General Category? What is their per- IS all right. centage?

Now, Shri Jatav. SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: 37 casual labourers have been working in the Training ( Interruptions) Directorate, among them 14belong to Sched- 21 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Oral AnSW9I'S 22 uled Castes and 1 belongs to Scheduled partment and posts are created. No such Tribe. need is being felt at present.

SHRI THAN SINGH JATAV: Mr. (English) Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from the Honble Minister for how long these causal PROF. N.G. RANGA: Is it not high time labourers belonging to Scheduled Castes that the Government should reconsider these and Scheduled T ritles have been working conditIOns and relax these conditions so that there and whether their services have been more helpless SC people would have a extended? Why these casual labourers have chance to get themselves permanentty not been regularised so far? employed?

SHRI ANlL SHASTRI' Mr. Speaker, SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: I welcome the Sir, according to the polICy of the Depart- suggestIOn of Prof. Ranga. I would also like ment of Personnel, the causal labourers who to state that not only personally myself, but have been WOrking continuously for 240 the entire National Front Government and days In the departments, haVing 5 days' the parties supporting the Government are week and 206 days continuously In the completely dedICated and committed to the departments haVing SIX days' week, are cause of the SC and ST people in India considered fOI regulansation, provided there IS a vacancy In the department [TranslatIon]

SHRIDAUDAYALJOSHI Mr Speaker, SHRI KALKA DAS: Mr Speaker, Sir, S.r. I would hke to know f rom the hon MIniS- the hon MInister has stated that the policy of ter, the number of casual labourers out of the Government IS that the labourers who these 14 casual labourers, who have al- have been working continuously for 206 ready put In two years' service and are days or 240 days would be regularised. But )Itglble for regulansatlOn under the policy of at the same time, he has also stated that the Government? I want to know the reasons workers haVing 10 years servICe are stili why the Department has not taken any ac- working as casual labourers. My submissIOn tion to regulanse them so tar and the time by IS that under the polICY of the Government, whICh they Will be regulansed? the servICes of tho!e labourer who have completed 240 days should be regulansed. SHRI ANIL SHASTRI Mr. Speaker, I would like to know the reasons why the SIT, the number of casual labourers belong- people belonging to Scheduled Castes and Ing to Scheduled Castes WOrking for less Scheduled T nbes have not been regularised than one year IS one Those who have been even though they have been WOrking for 10 working for one to two years, are 7 and those years? When Will the need for regulansatlon working for 3 to 4 years IS one. ThQ number be felt? of causal labourers belonging to the Sched- uled Castes who pave been working for 3 to SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: Mr. Speaker, 4 years IS one and 2 persons have been Sir, as I stated Just now, whenever the working for 5 to 10years. Thus, 14 labourers Department feels necessary, it creates a belonging to Schedl.lled Castes and one post No doubt, these labourers have been belonging to Scheduled T nbe are working working there for some years, but it is not there necessary U'at they have put in 206 or 240 days' continuous service. They are employed for a fixed period when a need is felt for As I have stated earlier, It IS the polICY of employing casual labourers and thus, there the Government that when It IS felt neces- are intermittent gaps in between. This policy .. ary to give regular employment to the la- is not for the Scheduled Castes and Sched- bourers, the matter IS taken up by the De- uled Tribes, but it is a General policy. 23 Oral AnswelS MAY 11. 1990 Oral AnswelS 24

SHRI KALKA DAS: Mr. Speaker. Sir. to Speaker. Sir. I would like to bring it to the bring intermittent break in the Services of notice of the hon. Minister through you that those employees is denial of their rights. there are two problems in respect of the Why was the necessity? These people have vacancies reservedforthe Scheduled Castes been working for the last ten years. I would and Scheduled Tribes. First one relates to like to submit that this is a sort of injustice. a the break in service of such employees as conspiracy against this category of people. it they are not allowed to work continuously is only the denial of their rights that intermit- against these vacancies. Secondly, the offi- tent break is effected in the services of these cers resort to ad-hoc appointments and dis- employees. honestly fill up such vacancies and whenever a circular is received from the Govern- ment to clear the backlog of reserved posts. the officers ask the ad-hoc appointees to MR. SPEAKER: Shastriji, do you want seek protection from the High Court and to say anything in your reply. obtain a stay otherwise they were likely to lose their job. I WOUld, therefore,like to know SHRI ANIL SHASTRI. No, SIr. in this regard whether Government propose to take steps to fill up all the reserved vacan- SHRI CHHAVIRAM ARGAL: Mr. cies to the clear the entire backlog during the Speaker, Sir, casual labourers are often current year itself without any further delay, appointed only for a penod of 90 days at a instead of wasting time in finding clear va- stretch and after some gap, they are again cancies for the ad-hoc appointees. appointed for another 90 days and thus they are not allowed to complete a continuous [English) service period of 206 days or 240 days. So they continue in that way for a long time. SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: I am not aw~re of Does the han. Minister know about the cas- any such thing in my Department. But, if uallabourers who hac gone to the Delhi High Shrimati Subhashini Ali can let me know any Court that had given a verdict in thelrfavour? specific: instance, I will take it up very seri- On the occassion of Dr. Ambedkar's Birth ously.and will ensure that justice is done. Anniversary, Government have announced (Intemlptions) ... that they will work for the weHare of the employees of these categories. I would like [Translation 1 to know whether National Front Government and hon. Minister propose to take steps for MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. the confirmation of such employees of Sched- uled Castes and Scheduled Tribes In their SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI AU: It is the respective departments? (Interruptions) question of such a backlog in the entire country. This backlog is only 011 papers. In MR. SPEAKER: Han. Member, now fact such posts in each and every de~rt that IS enough. Please take your seat. First ment of this country have been filled up on you should know the way the questions are ad-hoc basis. So I would like to know whether asked here. Government is going to take steps to fill up all such vacancies to clear the entire backlog SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: Mr. Speaker. instead of finding out dear cut vacancies for Sir, as per the pohcy of the Government. them? (Interruptions) casual labourers will be regularised as and when such a need arises. There will be no MR. SPEAKER: She is saying that this discrimination in thiS regard, I would like to is happening everywhere and even your make it clear on behalf of the Government. Ministry is no exception.

SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI ALI: Mr. SHRI ANll SHASTRI: Even if it is so. 25 Oral AnSwelS VAISAKHA21,1912(SAKA) Oral AnsMHS 26

detected during the last three years; and [English1 (c) the action taken in each case and There is no problem. In fad, in banks, liaison the preventive staps taken by Government officers are there, as the hon. Member may in this regard? be aware. There is a SCIST Cell in all the banks. where they take up grievances; they [English) take up promotions and they take up recruitment cases also. (/ntemptions) THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRYOFANANCE (SHAIANllSHAS- [Translation} TRI): (a) Instances of smuggling of hashish and textiles from Nepal into India have been detected. However, no case of such smug- Smuggling Across Indo-Nepal Border gling of Bhang and Chinese pistols has been noticed. *787. SHRI HARI SHANKAR MAHALE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (b) and (c). A statement is laid on the state: table of the House.

(a) whether hashish, bhang, textiles STATEMENT and Chinese pistols are being smuggled into India from Nepal: (b) The number of cases of smuggling of hashish and textiles detected during the (b) if so. the total number of such cases last three years is given in the table below:

Number of cases

Year _ Synthetic Fabrics Hashish

2 3

1987 169 112

1988 740 53

1989 546 116

(c) Persons found involved in smug- State Administrations is also bein~ taken. gling of synthetic textiles and hashish are liable for arrest/prosecution and detention [Translation] under the Preventive Detention law. Per- sons involved in smuggling of synthetic tex- SHRI HAAIBHAU SHANKAR MAHAlE: tiles are, in addition, liable for penalty in I would like to know from the han. Minister departmental adjudications. the total value and also separately, the value of hashish and synthetic textiles seized by The anti-smuggling agencies remain his department? alert to check smuggling across the land borders including Indo-Nepal border. Close SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: I can give figures co-ordination is being maintained amongst for the last three years. The total value of all the agencies concerned with the preven- synthetic fabrics and hashish. separately, tion of smuggling. The assistance of the seized by them was to the tune of As. 52.65 27 Oral Answers MAY 11,1990 Oral Answers 28

lakh and 690.90 lakh in 1987, As. 138.17 SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: Bhang, hashish lakh and As. 50 lakh in 1988 and Rs. 32 lakh etc. do not come under narcotics. I would like and Rs. 891 lakh in 1989. to request the han. Member that he may give any suggestion in this regard so that some SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR MAHALE: way or the other could be found out. Sir, in how many cases the persons involved in smuggling are under arrest and detention [English] and in how many cases, cases have been filed in the court and what is the amount of SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Sir, usually penalty realised from such persons? smuggling takes place because we are not producing enough in this country. As far as SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: The details re- these things are concerned, we are not going garding the number of persons arrested, to produce them. But in some parts of our prosecuted and the amount of penalty real- forests-l know there are thick forests in ised from them !Il this regard will be made some parts of Kerala--plants like ganja, are available to the Han. Member later on. being planted in areas measuring several hectares. h is an open secret. But such PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: The persons are never caught. Persons who practice which has been in vogue for years may have one or two plants are caught. So, together, is likely to increase because of the will the han. Ministertake immediate steps t.o conditions prevailing in Nepal. What steps catch all the big fry who are having large are proposed to be taken by the Government plantations in our thick forests? to check its recurrence in future and the extent of success achieved by the Govern- SHRI ANIL SHASTRI- Our endeavour ment in this regard? has always been to catch all sizes of fish. But I take the suggestion of the han. Member in [English] the right spirit. The thrust will be more one the larger fish. SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: Sir, as the han. Member may be aware, the treaty between Visit of US Delegation Nepal and India expired on 23rd March 1989. There have been discussions. In fact, In a ·788. SHR! !ANARDHANAPOOJARY: l"ecent discussion between India and Nepal, Will the Minister 0: COMMERCE be pleased in March in Kathmandu, the Nepalese Gov- to state: ernment has given an assurance of cooperation in controlling the unauthcnsed tra~e. (a) whether a US df:legation VISited And we are sure that in the next meeti"'lg, tms India in February, 1990 to explore the possi- issue will further crystaJise. bilities of joint ventures: and

[Translation] (b) if so. the areas identified by the group for joint ventures? PROF. VIJAYKUMARMALHOTRA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to know the manner THE MINISTER OF STATE if"; THE of disposal of all these confiscated items like MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- bhang, hashish, charas, ganja etc. Has it ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). A come to the notice of the Government tt ~t Statement is laid on the Tabte of the House. these confiscated items find their way for sale in the market since these things are STATEMENT replaced by other things. Does the Govern- ment propose to destroy the entire lot of Mr. Richard F. Celeste, Governor. State confiscated items after their seizure as it is of Ohio visited India from February 15-23, also a serious matter? 1990. Synchronising with Governor's visit a 29 Ora/ Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

Dusmess delegatIOn also VISited India Al- export policy We have rationalised proce- though the Governor made courtesy calls on dures We have encouraged exporters the MInistries of Commerce an1 External Foreign Investment IS coming In We are Affairs and Department of Industrial Devel- SimplifYing procedures I think, the Minister opment, the delegation's main interaction of Finance has already answered several was with Indian Businessmen Ministry of questions In that direction But what we have Commerce IS not aware of the areas Identl explained to them IS that we have a system fled by the group for JOint ventures In India We have a procedure In India and what we have to see IS that they understand SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY We our poSition a little better as we have under- should be selective on JOint ventures We stood theirs should not go for JOint ventures In areas whICh are not export-or technology-on- Withdrawal of Money by Kashmlrl ented h IS Important that the Ideology should Migrants from their Bank Accounts not decide our policy Pragmatism should be the watchword What IS the policy of the + present Government so far as this aspect IS *789 SHRI SHANKERSINH concerned? VAGHELA SHRI RADHA MOHAN SINGH SHRI ARANGIL SHREEDHARAN We have always stated that In matters of trade Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased and commerce, we do not have Ideological to state consideratIOns to Interfere adversely In our attempt to expand our trade and commerce (a) whether the nationalised banks are allOWing the Kashmir! migrants liVing In camps As far as the first part of the question In Jammu and also outSide the State wrth- that IS, whether we should Import technology drawals of money from their accounts left for things that we can ourselves manage IS behind In the Valley, concerned, I would like to say that we believe In self-reliance and we Will not allow (b) If not the reasons therefor and

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY What (c) whether Government propose to are the steps taken to remove the hurdles allow these Inlgrants to operate their ac- and also for SimplifYing the procedures for counts from deSignated branches of the rele- smooth Inflow of foreign Investment? vant banks In Jammu and Deihl?

THE DEPU'fY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANll'" VS- TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU) TRI) (a) to (c) Since the bank aceo... on This question baSically pertains to the VISit of be operated only at respective banK branc~" a US delegation In the reply, we have stated instructions have been Issued to the banks that the Governor of Ohio had come here to make expedrtlous arrangements for trans- Then, a bus'ness group had come They had fer of banks accounts/funds maintained with • h the various bUSiness groups their branches In the Kashmir Valley to some In India I hese are private bodlss They held other branches outSide the Valley, If so over 70 meetings We have really discussed deSired by the customers and to deal With matters of mutual Interest-how we can such requests With utmost promptrtude expand the trade As you know, the USA IS the largest trading partner MR SPEAKER The Question Hour IS over As far as llberallsatlon and making things easy IS concerned, we have the new Import- 31 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written Answers 32

WRITIEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (a) whether Govemment propose to decentralise the functions of Supply Depart- ment and wind up the Department; [English] (b) if so, the estimated economy in Exports to Norway expenditure envisaged as a result thereof;

*779. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Willthe Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (c) whether any action plan has been to state: prepared for the proposed decentralisation of the various Wings of that Department and (a) the particulars of goods exported to the absorption of the Officers and staff of the Norway during the Seventh Plan period: and Department;

(b) the foreign exchange earned there- (d) if so, its broad features; and from? (e) the time-table laid down for the THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND implementation of this plan? TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) The major items exported to Norway are garments, Textiles. etc., leather and leather THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE goods, travel goods and accessories, cof- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- iee, tea and spIces ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): Cat 1-. is no proposal to wind opthe[}taJ , •••afSUpplyI (b) From the year 1985-86 onwards DGS&D. However, a reviewaf Ihe policy and value of exports made to Norway are as procedure relating to centralised purchase tallows: of stores and equipments required by Cell- tral Government Departments ,s being un- (Rs. Crores) dertaken.

1985-86 16.35 (b) h is too early to make any estimate in the economy in expenditure as a result 1986-87 17.51 thereof.

1987-88 22.50 (c) and (d). As stated in (a) above, a 1988-89 22.05 review of policy is being considered. H as a result of this review, some work. is to be 1989-90 43.61 transferred from Centralised Purchase (April 89 January 90) Agency (DGS&D) to other Ministries, such transfer of work to other Departments/Minis- (SOURCE DGCI & S: Calcutta) tries is proposed to be linked with transfer of officers and staff dealing with such work to Decentralisation of Supply Department those Departments/Ministries without any loss of their service prospects_ -782 SHRI SANT KUMAR MANDAL: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (e) This will arise only after the Govem- to state: ment takes final decision in the matter. 33 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

[ Translation] (b) No, Sir.

Furnishing of Various Wings of 1&8 (c) Does not arise. Ministry Seizure of German Made ears in *784. SHRI PYARELAL KAHAN DEL- Madras WAL: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state *790_ SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minis- the amount spent on furnishing various wings ter of FINANCE be pleased to state: of thE' Ministry and on buying new furniture therefor from 1stJanuary, 1990to31stMarch, (a) whether the Directorate of Revenue 19901 lntenigence hac; seized a number of German made cars in Madras in recent years; THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (b) if so, the details thereof; PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): Information is being collected (c) the details of persons from whom and will be laid on the Table fa the Sabha. these cars have been seized: and

[Eng/ish] (d) the action taken against them?

Earnings from Advertisements THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- *785. SHRI R. N. RAKESH: TRI):(a)to(d). Yes,Sir, Two cars of German SHRI MANIKRAO HODLVA make valued at Rs. 8 lakhs each have been GAVIT: siezed on 6th January, 1990 from the premises of two firms owned by Shri Vijay Bal- Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND chandani and one such car valued at Rs. 8 BROADCASTING be pleased to state: lakhs has been seized on 16th January, 1990 from a Service Station on Anna Salai, (a) the estimated amount earned by Madras and is owned by Shri A. Rathnam of Government though advertisement on TV Mylapore, Madras. during the year 1989-90: Investigations are still in progress. (b) whether Government propose to show on TV only advertisements of some [ TtafJslation) selected items: and

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION *791. SHRlMATI VASUNDHARA AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF RAJE: Will the Minister of TOURISM be PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. pleased to state: UPENDRA): (a) The gross revenue earned by Doordarshan from commercial advertise- (a) whether Government are a"are of ments and sponsorship of programmes for the tremendous tourist potential of Rajast- the year 1989-90 is Rs. 210.13 crores. han: 35 Written AnswetS MAY 11,1990 Written AnSW81S 36

(b) whether there is also growing need MALIK): (a) to (c). the Government is aware of accommodation and other infrastructural of the tourism potential of Rajasthan and the facilities for tourists in that State: and growing need for providing accommodation and other infrastructural facilities to tourists (c) if so, the steps taken to provide visiting the State. However, infrastructural additional infra-structural facilities for tour- development is primarily the responsibility of ists in that State and speciflC schemes sanc- the State Government and the Central tioned in this regard? Government provide only financial assistance on the basis of specific proposals received from the State, subject to their THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE merit, inter-se priorities and availability of M'NiSTRY OfPARUAMENTMl.Y AFFAIRS funds. The schemes.'projects sandioned by AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tJINIS- the Central Government during Seventh Five TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL Year Plan for Rajasthan are the following: 37 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 38

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[Engfsh) (d) the countries to which exports are contemplated? Iron Ore Production and Export

·792. SHRIC. P. MUDALAGIRIYAPPA: THE MINISTEROiSTEElAND MINES Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE pleased to state: (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) In January, 1990, Kudremuch Iron Ore Company lim- (a) the total production recorded by ited (KIOCL) Produced 5.47 lakh lakh ton- Kudremukh Iron Ore Co. ltd. during Janu- nes of iron ore concentrate 'and 2.05 lakh ary,1990: tonnes of iron ore pellets.

(b) the figures about export of Iron are for the last three months. (b) Export of iron ore by KIOCL during the last thr~e months of 1989-90 was as (c) the countnes to which exports made: follows: and

Month Quantity exported (Iakh tonnes)

Iron ore concentrate Iron ore pellets

January. 1990 3.70 1.59

February. 1990 2.59 1.68

March. 1990 3.44 1.96

(c) In 1989-90. KIOCL exported Iron ore (a) whether a very large potential of COl'lCentrate and pellets to Japan. Czecho- tourism remaIns untapped in the country: slovakia. At..stralia. Bahrain. China. Iran. I;tungary, Turk~y. FranCe. Oatar. Iraq. Indo- nesia, USA. West G~rmany and TaIWan. A (b) the target fixed for foreign tourist small quantity of pelloefs was also suppli&d arrivals and foreign exchange earnings in to Mexico for tests. 1990-91 :

(d) In 1990-91. KIOClls likely to export (c) whether proposals have been re- Iron are concentrate and pellets to: Japan, ceived to construct new hotels and develop Iran, Bahrain. Czechoslovakia. China. Hun- new places as tourist centres during 1990- gary, Austraha. IndoneSia and Turkey. 91 :

Pians for Development of Tourists in (d) if so, the details thereof, State-wise; 1990-91 and

·793. PROF P. J. KURIEN: Will the (e) the details of the schgmes ap- Minister at TOURISM be pleased to state: proved. State-wise? 43 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written AnsMPtS 44

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Year (Value: Rs. CIOres MIN lSTRY OF PARliAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- 1 2 TRY OF tOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK). (a) It IS true that a largQ potential of 1986-87 130.00 tourISm remains untapped n the country

1987-88 144.00 (b) The targets for 1990-91 are, arnvals of 1 5 million forergn tourrsts excluding na- 1988-89 20000 tIOnals of Pakistan and Bangladesh. and estimated foretgn exchange earning of nearly (b) The Government has taken various Rs 2800 crores steps to Increase export of engmeenng goods to African countries Englneenng exports to (c) to (e) Development of tourism IS such countnes have been squght to be in- primarily the responsibility of State Govern- creased through Jomt Committee meetings! ment However the MInistry of Tounsm Bilateral Trade Talks with varIOus Afncan approve proposals for constructIOn of star countnes keeping In View the foregn ex- category hotels DUring the current financial change dlfflCuhles being faced by many of year 1990 -91, the M,nrstry receIVed two these countnes, efforts have been made to such proposals, one from Andhra Pradesh Increase exports on countertrade baSIS and and another from Maharashtra Both the through provtdlr'lg credit Thrust markets In proposals have been approved AfrICa and thrust products have been Identi- fied for~ special export attention Several Export of Engineering Goods to African delegatIOns to and from AfrICa has been Countries. sponsored to push up exports The Engl- neenng Export PromotIOn counCIl through Its "794 SHRI N J RATHVA Will the offtces In Nairobi and AbidJan. obtain and M,nister of COMMERCE be pleased to supply to exporters, InformatIon about po- state tential for exports India also plans to parbCl- pate In some Important fairs In AfriCa In (a) the value of exports of engln~errng 1990-91 wlfh a view to promoting our engl- goods to Afncan countnes dUring the last neenng exports three years

(c) The countnes outside AfrICa which (b) the measures taken to Improve the are majOr markets are USSR, USA, UK exports of engineering goods to African Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, FRG, Slngapo.e, countrres. and Saudi Arabls and the United Arab Emirates

(c) t"e details of other countries to Import of Jumbo RoUs whom engineering goods are being exported? -795. SHRI E.S M PAKEER MO- HAMED. Will the Mlmster of FINANCE be pleased to state THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU). (a) the categones of photo-sensitised (a) The value of exports of englOeennggoods goods of Jumbo rotls whICh &Urad conces- to African countnes dUring 1986-87 to 1988- slOnal tate of Import duties under different 89 are as follows Customs NotificatIOns, and smce when; 45 Wriltep Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

(b) the criteria and justification tor grant- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ing import duty concessions to Jumbo Rolls; MINISTRY OF ANANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (e). A statement is given below. (c) whether recommendations of the concerned MiriistrylOepartment were also considered while granting duty concession; STATEMENT

Cd) if not, the reasons therefor; and 1. At present, Six categories of jumbo rolls of photo-sensitised goods attractoonces- '(e) the oonditions for granting such duty sienal rates of import duties-under various ooncession to various industrial unitslPublic customs notifICations as per details given Sector Undertakings? below:- 47 Written AnswelS MAY 11, 1990 . Wnlten AnswelS 48

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2. The import-duty concessions have senior managerial cadre downgraded and been granted in respect of jumbo rolls of the reasons therefor; photo-sensitised goods mainly as a foreign exchange conservation measure since the (c) when the posts are proposed to be international process of jumbo rolls are upgraded and filled up with SC/ST candi- cheaper than the international process of dates; imported finished products and to generate employment in the country by allowing the (d) the number of general candidates process of value addition to take place in the given promotions out of SC/ST quota and country itself. While considering the grant of the reasons therefor; and exemption, view of the concerned Ministryl Department were also taken into considera- (e) the backlog position of reserve tIOn. posts in PEC and efforts being make by Government to clear it? 3. No distinction has been made between imports by private industrial units and THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND public sector undertakings for availing these TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): duty concessions. However to check any (a) The single cadre-post of Group General possible misuse, the concessions are avail- Manager (Finance) falling vacant on a re- able to an importer only if he fulfils the served point has been filled up by a general following conditions:- candidate in 1987 as the SC candidate who applied against the advertisement was not (i) The importer has to give in un- found eligible. dertaking for conversion of the jumbo rolls into finished prod- (b) In spite of the concerted efforts, one ucts: and post of Group General Manager (Marketing) (reserved for SC) could not be filled up due (ii) The importer is required to hold to non-availability of suitable candidates. It an Industrial licence under the was, therefore, decided by PEC to operate Industries (Development and the post of Group General Manager (Market- Regulation) Act. 1951, for the ing) at the lower level of General Manager slitting and confectioning of which was filled up by a S.C. candidate. photosensitive materials from jumbo rolls. (c) All the regular posts in the cadre of General Manager (Marketing) including Reservation for SCslSTs in Projects downgraded one are at present filled up on and Equipments Corporation regular basis. Thedowngrabed post of Group General Manager would be upgraded as *796. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHAR- and when a clear vacancy in the cadre of GAVA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be General Manager becomes available. pleased to state: (d) No general candidate has been (a) the number of SC/ST posts of given promotion against any of the posts Managers and above in Projects and Equip- reserved for SCslSTs. ments Corporation which have been filled up with general candidates: (e) As per the reservation rosters maintained by PEC, the group-wise breakup of (b) the number of reserved posts of the backlog is detailed below: 51 Written AnsW91S MAY 11,1990 Wliten AnsMHS 52

electronics, computer hardware, softw8l'8, Group SC ST and the electronic component sector, to visit Nigeria, Kenya and Ghana in March 1990 in A 9 3 order to identify the market potential for B 2 export of electronic items from India. h is gathered that in the absence of the requisite infrastructure and component base for inte- C 3 6 grated manufacture, there is a desire in these countries to establish assembly units D based on kit import of Indian made computer 14 10 hardware, peripherals, power supplies and software. A Special Recruitment Drive was con- The market opportunities are being ducted ear.Jier by PEC in 1989 to clear the pursued by individual firms and it is reported backlog as a result of which PEC could fill up that orders worth Rs. 50 lakhs for public only two posts in the reserved category. address equipment and consumer electronic items have been booked. Electronic Units in African Countries.

[ Translation] *797. SHRI PRAKASH KOYO BRAHMBHA IT: Will the Minister of COM- Adoption of Villages by Nationalised MERCE be pleased to state: Banks in Uttar Pradesh (a) whether some AfrICan countries *798. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Will the such as Nigeria, Kenya and Ghana have Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: expressed a keen desire to set up electronic units based on kit Imports from India; (a) the criteria prescribed by the nationalised banks for giving loans for rural devel- (b) if so, whether a delegation of Elec- opment; and tronics and Computer Software Export Pro- motion Council vised these countries and (b) the number of villages adopted so submitted their report to the Government if so, the details thereof: far by the nationalised banks in Uttar Pradesh, district-wise? (c) whether thy have also found good THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE market for computer software in these coun- MINISTAYOF FINANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- tries: and TAl): (a) loans for any viable Schemes undertaken by any entrepreneurs for rural (d) if so. whether any concrete propos- development are provided by the commer- als are being considered in this regard: and cial banks. The margin money, the security if so, the details therefor? norms and rates of interest are liberal in case of agricultural lending. h has been provided THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND that: TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) to (d). The Electronics and Computer Software Export Promotion Council spon- (i) No margin may be asked on agricultural loans upto Rs. sored a 5 Member delegation which included industry representatives from the consumer 10,0001- and loans to smaH scale 53 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKAl Written Answers 54

Industnes upto Rs 25,000/-. (c) If so. the details of Its findings?

(II) No securrty or guarantee IS to be THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND Insisted upon In respect of agn TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU) cultural loans upto Rs 10,000/- (a) to (c) STC and MMTC are two major and In case of loans to small canahsmg agencies for Import of earmarked scale mdustrles upto Rs products whIch form essential Inputs for 25,0001 , country's economy With the hberallsed economic poliCies leadIng to a balance of (III) Concesslonal rates of ,l1terest payment situation there s a dire need to are applicable for short term Increase exoorts In actual operatIOn, how- agncultural loans to farmers for ever. certain amount of over-lapPing has amounts upto Rs 25,0001 taken place between STC and MMTC as both the Corporations are leading trading (IV) All Pnorlty Sector loan applica- houses uSing their strl?ngth as a buyer of tions upto a credit limit of Rs bulk raw matenals to pro",ote country trade 25,0001 should be dIsposed of exports Ir all Items Dlue to lack of coordina- wrth,n a fortnight and these over tion. direction and limited size of operations, Rs 25 0001 Within 8 to 9 weeks these trading orgarllsatlons have not been able to obtam the best of terms while Import- (v) Application forms for agr,cultural Ing goods TI,e COm'i'lttee set up In 1968- loans are to be made available 111 69 to review the State Trading Corporation regIonal languages to faCIlItate under the Chairmanship of Dr P C Alexan- submISSion of the applications der, recommended the setting-up of a HOLDING COMPANY With Subsldlanes for (b) All the villages In Uttar Pradesh englneenng consumer and general prod- have been allocated to 6348 branches of ucts, agricultural products, chemicals and banks under the Service Area Approach fertilizers, MMTC and HHEC ArJun Sen Gupta Report (1985) which reviewed the [EnglIsh] polley for public enterprises recommended Holding Company structure The view of S Holding Company for STC and MMTC. Ramanathan Committee Report regarding ArJun Sen gupta Committee Report also *799 SHRt VENKATA KRISHNA supported the HOLDING COMPANY struc- REDDY KASU Will the Minister of COM ture Subsequently. an Independent study MERCE be plpased to state by Administrative Staff College of India (ASCI). Hyderabad, was conducted In 1987 (a) the detaIls of the proposed holding In Its report, ASCI supported the n~ed of a company for the STC and MMTC partlcu, Holding Company on the major conSidera- larly With reference to the cost effectIveness tions of over-lapping and conflicts between In the operatIons and Improved export per- the PSUs, especially In non-canahsed ex- formance. port products, Importance of counter-trade as a strategy for addltlonallty In exports, etc (b) whether Government have conducted any review about the post perform- With a view to achieVing better coordi- ance of these two corporations which might nation and use the combined strength of have prompted to set up a holdIng company, MMTC and STC, to promote exports by and aVOiding competition. over-lapping, or un- 55 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written Answers 56 der-cutting, the Government has set up a be deleted under law. The rolls are now HOLDING COMPANY of which these two being rectify In addition, one case of inclu- Corporations will be subsidiaries. sion of a foreigner in the rolls also came to the notice of the Election Commission and Illegal Infiltration Into Tripura the name was deleted from the rolls.

8217. SHRI MANIK SANYAL: Will the' Expenditure on Subsidies Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: 8218. SHRI PARAS RAM BHARAD- WAJ: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (a) whether Government are aware that pleased to state: thousands of Bangladeshis have illegally (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India, infiltratecl into Tripura during the las1 two in view of the study, warned the Government years and a large section of them have that the rising expenditure on subsidies is managed to get their names included in the playing havoc with the Centers fiscal man- voters' list during the last Assembly election agement and all efforts will have to be taken of the State: on a priority basis to eliminate the subsidies (b) if so, the number of Bangladeshis exploicit or concealed which are no longer deleted from the voters list of the State: justified: (c) if n01, the reasons therefor: and (b) whether it is also a fact that the (d) what steps are being taken or to be Reserve Bank of India is sore at the new taken to revise the eXisting voters list? Government's decision to waive all loans for the poorer sections upto Rs. 10,000; and THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (c) ~ so, the reaction of Government in (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) to (d). The this regard? Election CommiSSion received some complaints during 1989 alleging, inter-alia, inclu- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sion of names of Bangladesh nationals in the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- electoral rolls of T npura. All the complaints TRI): (a) to (c). Reserve Bank of India (RBI) except one from Shri Nripen Chakravarty and Government of India, in mutual consul- were of general nature and on enquiry the tation, decide on the issues resulting to allegations contained therein could not be monetary and fiscal policies. The question of substantiated. A team of officers from the issue of any warning by RBI on such matters Election Commission visited the State to does nQt arise. enquire Into the complaints of irregularities in the preparation of rolls and alleged inctu- Newprint Import slvetherein of Bangladesh nationals. In most of the cases, however, the objectors did not 8219. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA turn up before the team to substantiate the NARSIMHARAJA WA- allegations. DIYAR: SHRI YASHWANTRAO PA- The allegation of Inclusion of 83 names TIL: of foreigners contained in the letter from Shri SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN- Nrtpen Chakravarty was, however found true, DIA: Smce the general election to the House of People had commenced by the time the Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND enquiry was completed, the names could not BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 57 Written Answers VAISAKHA21,1912(SAKA) Written Answers 58

(a) the import of newprint during 1988- given below in the statement. 89 and 1989-90, the import bill thereof and the countries from which imported; (b) The total estimated requirement of newsprint for 1989-90 was of tne order of (b) the total requirement of newsprint 5.60 lacs MT. Against this 2.75 lacs MT was during 1989, how much of it was indigenously estimated indigenous production. The bal- available and how much was imported and ance of 2.85 lac MT was to be met by how far the requirements remained unful- imports. The Newsprint A"ocation Policy filled; and provides for meeting the actual requirements of newspapers in full. (c) the comparative figures for the first quarter of 1990, indicating the imports liKely (c) Expected arrivals ot imported to be made form different countries during newprint during first quarter April-June, 1990 the rest of the current year. country-wise? are likely to be about 55,000 MTs as against 35,660 MTs during corresponding period THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION last year. The balance requirements of im- AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF ported newsprint, as assessed, is proposed PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. to be imported during the rest of the year UPENDRA): (a) The requisite information is from different countries. 59 Written Answers MAY 11. 1990 Written Answers 60

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Import of Fire Protection Equipment. has been received form the Honble Member himself. 8220. SHRIV.SREENIVASAPRASAO: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (b) No, Sir. The Regional TV Service in to state: each State is aimed to be introduced in the language most widely spoken in the State (a) whether the rules pertaining to concerned and eminating from the Ooor- imports of fire protection doors and other darshan Kendra located within the State. related equipment have been liberalised; [ Translation] (c) whether these imports have sub- stantially risen during the last three years: Setting up of Akashvani and Door- and darshan Kendra in Gaya, Bihar

(d) if so. the details thereof? 8222. SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE BROADCASTING be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) There is no (a) whether Government have decided change in the Import Policy for Import of fire to set up Akashvani Kendra and Doordarshan protection doors and other related equip- Kendra in Gaya, Bihar: ment. (b) whether Government have received (b) Yes. SIr. any representations in this regard:

(c) and (d). The Information is bemg (c) whether Government had assured collected and will be laid on the Table of the that at the time of formulating next Plan, House. priority would be given to the establishment of Gaya Akashvani Kendra and Doordarshan Transmission of Marathi Programmes Kendra; and from Ahmedabad (d) if so, the action taken or proposed to 8221. SHRt V. N. GADGIL: Will the be taken by Government in this regard? Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION (a) whether there IS a demand from AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF Marathi speaking population of Ahmedabad PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt P. and Baroda for transmission of Marathi pro- UPENDRA): (a) The approved Seventh grammes from Ahmedabad: and Plan of All India Radio does not include any proposal to set up a Radio Station at Gaya, (b) whether Government propose to Bihar. telecast Bombay 1. V. Marath programmes from Ahmedabad? As regards T.V. service, a low power TV transmitter is already fundioning at Gaya. THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION There is no approved scheme, at present, to AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF set up programme production facility at Gaya. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) A suggestion to this effect (b) Yes, Sir. 63 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990

(c) and (d). Some measures have been Station, at present, is six. proposed for expansion of Radiolf. V. service at Gaya (Bihar) under the Eighth Plan, (b) to (d). The quality of relayed pr0- but their implementation depends upon the grammes from this Relay Station suffered overall size of the Plan allocation of the two during February-March, 1990 due to fault in media to be made by the Planning commis- the sub-assembly of the lVRO system. The sion. fault has been attended to and the service is reported to be satisfactory with effect from [English] April, 1990.

Number of Employees in Chlttor T. V. News Bulletins Broadcast In Different Relay Station indian Languages from Deihl

8223. SHRI M. G. REDDY: Will the 8224. SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased tq_ state: CASTING be pleased to state:

(a) the total number of employees in the (a) the wave lengths, metre bands and Chittor T. V Relay stations: timings of the news bunetins broadcast in different Indian languages from Delhi; and (b) v.'hether the quality of Doordarshan programmes from this relay station has gone (b) the wave lengths and metre bands down: of the external services broadcast in Indian languages from Delhi and directed towards (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and South East Asia and Africa?

Cd) the steps taken by Government to THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION improve the quality ofthe programmes in this AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF relay station? PARUAMENT';~Y AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENORA): (ai The detai1s ofthe timings of news bulletins originated from Delhi aiongwith THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION the present freauencies ca.'ld wave lengths AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF are given befow in Statement I. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHP! P. UPENDRA): (a) The total number of . m- (b) The information is given below in ployees working in the Chittor TV 1e!ay Statement II. 65 Written Answers VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

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Merger of MlTCO with MMTC. THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROAOCASTINGAND MINISTER OF 8225. SHRI YASHWANTRAO PATIL: PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Will the Minister of commerce be pleased to UPENDRA): (8) The Broad criteria for selec- state: tion of feature films for telecast on Door- darshan are as under: (a) whether the Mica Trading Corpora- tion of India is proposed to be merged with (i) National/lnternationallState the Minerals and Metals Trading Corpora- Award won tion of India; (ii) Thematic Value (b) if so, the details thereof and the reasons therefor; (iii) Cinematic Value

(c) whether the merger wilt result in (iv) Entertainment Value economy in expenditure; and (v) Suitability for family viewing (d) if so, the details thereof? (vi) Year of Production.

THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND Only those regional language feature TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): films which have won any of the following (a) Yes, Sir, national awards or panorama status are considered for telecast on the national network of Doordarshan on Sunday: (b)to(d). The decision to merge MITCO with MMTC has bepn taken to provide (i) National Award for the Best or managerial, marketing and financial s,upport Second Best Feature Film of the and to achieve operational and administra- year (in all languages combined) tive efficiency, (ii) Pres:Jenfs award of 'Rajat Criteria for TelecastirTg Films by kama!' for the Best Feature Film Doordarshan in a regional language;

8226, SI l' l\, VIJAYARAGHVAN: Will (iii) Nagris Dutt Award for National the Minister of I~F(,RMATION AND BROAD- integration: CASTING be pleased to state: (iv) Indira Gandhi Award for the Best (a) the criteria for telecasting films by First Film of a Director; and Doordarshan; (v) Entry in the Indian Panorama and mainstream Sections of any (b) whether Government would take International film Festival of In- deCisions 10 telecast special award winning diaIFilimotsav. films apart from state and national award films; and (b) and (c). All Award winning and non· award winning feature films ar:e considered (c) If so, the details thereof? and, if found suitable, telecast by Door- 97 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 98 darshan, except in the regional languages ment in this regard? films chunk on the national network on Sunday for which specific illegibility criteria THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE as indicated in the reply to part [a] above MIN iSTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANll SHAS- have been laid down. TRI): (a) The Kerala State Government have intimated us that no formal request has Enhancement of Economic Coopera- been made in this regard but that in the tion with Portugal Transport Ministers' Conference held recently in New Delhi, the Transport Minister of 8227. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA Kerala had mentioned that the Union Gov- RAJE: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be ernment may have to consider compensat- pleased to state: ing the State RDad Transport Undertakings for the burden which they may have to shoul- (a) whether Government have a pro- der due to increase in fuel prices. posal to enhance economic cooperation with Portuga~ (b) As State Road Transport Undertak- ings are required to function on commercial (b) if so, the joint venture projects lines and generate surpluses after meeting proposed to be set up with Portugal as a part their costs of operation, the question of giv- of increasing economic cooperation: and ing any compensatory grant does not arise.

Cc) the details thereof? Energy Consumption in Steel Plants

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 8229. SHRI A. K. ROY: WiUthe Minister MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). Gov- ernment is keen to increase economic and (a) the energy required for production of commercial cooperation with Portugal inter one ton of steel in our country with plant-wise alia through setting up joint ventures. How- break up: ever, no joint venture has been approved during the last three years. (b) the optimum energy requirement compared to the countries like USA, USSR, Compensatory Grant to Kera.a UK. Japan, Germany and France giving the energy consumption in these countries 8228. SHRI MUlLAPPAll Y RAMA- separately: and CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) the steps taken to attain the standard of those Countries?

(a) whether. Union Gov,.rnment have received any request from Kerala for com- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES pensatory grant to maintain status-quo in AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE transport fares in spite of rise in price of (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Plant-wise petroleum products: and energy consumption for SAil Integrated Steel Plants for production of 1 ton of crude 'steel (b) if so. the decision of Union Govern- are as follows: 99 Written Answ@rs MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 100

Ullas: G. Cal 'tonne of crude stel?l

Year DSP DSP RSP BsL liSCO SAIL

1987-88 10.15 11.55 10.99 9.93 16.13 10.82

1988-89 9.27 11.40 10.63 9.40 16.74 10.15

1989-90 8.85 11.66 10.23 9.25 16.42 9.n

(b) Specific energy consumption in house keeping, optimum operating prac- SAil Integrated Steel Plants excluding liSCO tices, technological updating and moderni- is about 9-12 G cal per tonne of crude steel sation of the steel Plants to about 8 G calt1cs. against energy consumption level of 5·6 G. Calicuts in technologically advanced coun· Sett~ng up Steel Production Centres In tries. liSCO being an obSQlete plant the Madhya Pradesh specifIC energy consumption is much higher. 8230. SHRI DlliP SINGH JU DEO: Will The energy con5umption pertonofcrude the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be steel for various countries is as follows: pleased to state:

Country Sppcific Energy (a) Whether there is a proposal to ConsumptIOn establish steel production centres in Madhya (G callfcs) Pradesh during the Eighth Five Y~ar Plan; and 2 (b) if so, the details thereof? USA 5.1 THE MINISTEROFSTEELAND MINES UK 4.7 AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) At present Japan 4.2 there is no proposal to set up steel production centres in the country except in certain Germany 4.7 hilly and backward regions.

France 4.9 (b) Does not arise.

USSR Not available SUbsidy to Cardamom Estates by Spices Board for Irrigation The energy consumption values in different steel plants are however not compa- 8231. SHRI PAlAI K. M. MATHEW: rable due to differences in raw material in- Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased puts, technologies adopted and product mix. to state:

(c) Energy consumption in SAil Steel (a) whether the subsidy given 'through Plants in planned to be reduced by better Spices Board to construct small dams and 101 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 sprinklers in Cardamom estates has been Increase In Number of Judges stopped; 8232. SHRI NARSINGHRAODIKSHIT: (b) if so, whether Government propose Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be to extend it for the current year also because pleased to state: of the present drought; and (a) whether the attention of Union (c) the details thereof? Government has been drawn to the new system captioned •Justice through public THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pressure" appearing in Times of India dated MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- 16 April, 1990; ANGfL SHREEDHARAN): (a) The Spices Board had the following schemes for sub- (b) if so, the reaction gf Government sidy for construction of smail dams & sprIn- thereto: and klers etc:- (c) the steps being taken by Govern- (i) Western Ghat Development ment to increase the number of judges? Programme, Udumbanchola, Kerala. THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE This programme commenced in , 985- (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Sir. 86 and was in operation upto 1989-90. However, payments to applicants who could (b) and (c). The law Commission in its not complete construction in 89·90 wourd be '2oth Report had, among others. recom- made In 1990-91. mended that the present strength of 10.5 Judges per million population be increased (Ii) Western Ghat Development to 50 Judges per million population. The Programme Karnataka. report has been circulated to all the State GovernmenVUt Administration. so far as the recommendations relating to High Courts This programme would be continued in are concerned, it has been decided not to the current financial years also. accept the proposal to increase judge- strength only on the basis of population. (iii) Scheme for developing water sources and irrigating cardamon Assistance by Tea Board under Tea plantations (Drought Scheme). Plantation Financial Scheme.

8233. SHRI KAllASH MEGHWAl: Will This scheme was approved for imple- the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to mentation in 1989-90 also on year-to- state: year basis. No propo.~al to continue the scheme during 1990-91 has been received from the Spices Board. (a) the amount provided by the Tea Board .under the Tea Plantation Financial Scheme as loan and subsidy for replantation (b) and (c). At present there is no threat and extension of tea area to F.E-A.A. Com- of drought in cardamom plantations. panies. Indian Proprietary Estates and Small 103 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 104

Growers, separately during the last three THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE years, year-wise: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR· ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) The amount disbursed under Tea Plantation Finance (b) whether there is any system under Scheme of Tea Board which consists of loan operation for monitoring and checking the component only during 1986-87, 1987-88 proper utilisation of the funds; and and 1988-89to FERAcompanies, Non-FERA companies and Small Tea Growers is as (c) if so, the details thereof? follows:-

Year FERA Non-FERA PubliclPrivate SmaR Tea Growers Companies PubliclPnvate Companies/ Growers (upto Partnership Properatory 10.12 ha. under Firms Tea

1 2 3 4

1986-87 Nil 64.35 Nil

1987-88 Nil 66.80 Nil

1988-89 Nil, 63.78 Nil

(b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Physical verifica- (b) if so, the details thereof in terms of tion of development work undertaken is done percentage; by actual inspection of sites by the officials attached to 10 field offices of the Tea Board (c) the reasons therefor; located in tea growing zones and by Head Office. Second instalment of loan under the (d) whether the export of coffee has scheme is disburse-ooly after completion of also shown downward trend; planting in the sanctioned area duly verified by the Board' officials as well as by recog- (e) if so, the reason for downward trend nised inspecting officials of the Industry on in the international market; and production of the Utilisation Certificate of previous instalments of the loan. (f) the steps Government propose to take to increase the sale of raw coffee and coffee powder in the domestic marketand to Sale of Raw Coffee and Coffee Powder increase coffee export?

8234. SHRIMATI J. JAMUNA: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). As (a) whether the sale of raw coffee and compared to 1988-89 there has been a coffee powder by the Coffee Board's depots 16.83% decline in the sale of raw coffee and in domestic market has come down: coffee powder in 1989-90 from Coffee 105 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Wnlten AnsMtlS 106

Boaid's promotional units. The main reason (a) whether Government have received for the decline in sale is mounting overheads any proposal from the Government of Kerala of the promotional units which makes the to declare Baikal Fort in Kasaragod district of prices unattractive. Efforts are being made Kerala for its development as a tourist centre; to cu1 down the wasteful expenditure on and staff, maintenance, and contingencies, etc so as to make the ~ffee prices attractive to (b) if so, the time ~ which this scheme the consumers. HowQ\ler, overall coffee is likely to be cleared? consumption in the domestic market has increased from 57,516 tonnes in the fiscal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE year 1988-89 to 61,132 tonnes in 1989-90. MINISTRY OF PARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (d) and (e). So far as exports of coffee TRY OF TOURISM ( SHAI SATYA PAL from India is concerned. there is no decline MALIK): (a) No. Sir. in the exports. (b) Does not arise. (f) A scheme for increasing domestic consumption of coffee has been included in Distribution Guideline. of Sail the draft VIII Plan. Apart from this, Coffee Board is already running various coffee 8236. DR. ASMI BALA: WiH the Minister houseslvans as a coffee promotion meas- of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: ure. (a) the internaf guidelines of Steel Au- Som9 of the important export promotion thority of India Ltd. in respect of distribution measures inclusive:- of iron and steel billets to consumers;

(i) Coffee IS exempt from the pur- (b) whether those guidelines are sup- view of export duty: plied to the consumers;

(iiI A cash compensatory support of (c) whether the internal guidelines 20% IS provided on the exports contradict the Joint Plant Committee (JPC) of instant coffee in 100 gm. tins guidelines: and 1 SOfa on its exports in bulk. (d) whether the said internal guidelines (iii) The rate of REP Licence has have the approval of Government: and been increased from 4% to 10% in the new Import-Export Policy. (e) if not. the steps being-taken to bring them in accord with JPC guidelines?

Development of Baikal Fort as a Tourist THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Centre In Kerala AND MINISTER OF LAW &JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The internal distri- 8235. SHRt M. RAMANNA RAt: bution guidelines and procedures drawn by SHRI MUlLAPPALLYRAMA- SAIL are meant for the guidance of its CHANDRAN: officials for the implementation of the guidelines of the Joint Plant Committee (JPC). As Will the MinisterofTOURISM be pleased per the present JPC guidelines, billets/rerol- to state: lables available for sale are to be supplied to 107 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written Answers 108 eligible units on the basis of their entitle- plant-size for the above period; and ments. The present internal guidelines of SAIL follow the same principle. (d) the number of cases of violation by SAIL of joint Plant Committee guidelines, (h) No. Sir. category-wise and plant-wise in their deals?

(c) No. SIr. THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (d) No. Sir. Approval of the Government (SHRI DlNESH GOSWAMI):

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I ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) To boost 8239. SHRI SURESH KODIKKUNNIL: business of NSIC. Government has encour- Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND aged it to organise Exposition of Technolo- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: gies in African countries; participate in international trade fairs; associate itself with (a) whether there IS any proposal to meetings of Joint Committees/Joint com- increase the transmission capacity of Pun- missions; sign Memoranda of Understand- aloor T. V. Centre: and ing with its counterparts and receive degni- taries from African countries to apprise them (h) if so. the det::tils thf"rAof alongw~h of ~s industrial and technological capabili- time schedule therefor? ties

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION (b) and (c). Trade Fair Authority of India AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF organises Indian participation In International PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. trade fairS and wholly Indian exhibitions In UPENDRA): (a) and (b) No TV transmitter Important African countries. During 1990. IS functIoning as such In Punaloor town In TFAI IS scheduled to organise Indian partici- Kprala This pl;:!ce lIes w,th,n the coverage patIOn In international fairs in Kenya and area of the high power (1 OKW) TV transmit- Senegal and also-organise an wholly Indian ter functiOning at Trrvandrum. However. exhibitIon in MaurrtlUS. because of intervening terroln conditIons. the place IS reportedly not receIving satisfac- Investigation by Central Excise Authori- tory service. Whereas there IS no approved ties in Delhi scheme at present to augment the power of the Tnvandrum transmitter. If IS the endeav- 8241. SHRI RAMDAS SINGH: Will the our of the Government to further Improve Tv Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: ServICe In the area as expeditiously as pos- Sible. dependent upon the availability of (a) whethgr prior to April. 1985. the adequate resou~ces for thiS purpose .' Central EXCise Authorrties made investigations Into the cases of Excise duty evasion Business of NSIC with African Coun- by certain TV companies and their dealers tries. In and around Delhi. through non-inclusion aiter Sales Service charges in assessable 8240. SHRI A. R. ANTULAY: Will the value: and MlOlsterof COMMERCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the -details thereof and the (a) the steps government propose to outcome of the investigation in each case in take to boost the business of National Small terms of revenue realised and action taken Industries CorporatIOn with the African coun- against the culprits? tnes: (b) whether Government propose to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE hold an exhibttion In some African countries MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- to boost Indian trade with the African coun- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. tnpe: ~"d (b) The details are given below in the (c) if so. the details thereof? Statement. 119 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 120

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Tourism In Darjeeling (West Bengal) tion of bank employees belonging to a minority union in the industry reportedly struck 8242. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: work on 25.4.1990 in support of their de- Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to mands, which inter alia, are review of the state: recently concluded Vth Bipcirtite Settlement, introduction of pension. increase in the (a) the steps taken by Union Govern- quantum of housing loan. formation of a ment to promote tourism in Darjeeling, West tripartite committee to finalise po!icy on Bengal during the Seventh Plan period; and computerisation. No action is caned for on the demands of the union as the banks, (b) the steps proposed to be taken to managements have signed the settlement develop tourism in the said area during 199()" only recently Le. on 10th April, 1989 with 911 union representing the majority of the employees. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS T. V. Relay CentresITowers in Garhwal, AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- U.P. TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a) During the Seventh Five Year 8244. SHRI C. M. NEGI: Win the Minis- Plan, the Central Department of Tourism ter of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- have sanctioned the construction of a Yatri ING be pleased to state: Nlwas at Daqeehng. In addition, a Special Central Assistance of Rs. 5.35 crores was (a) the number of TV relay centresl allocated by the Planning CommiSSion for towers set up in Garhwal districts of U.P. tourism development projects under the during last three years and to be set up in Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council Plan. 199()"91 district-wise and the names of locations; and (b) DUring the year 1990-91, a Food Craft Institute at Darjeeling is proposed to be (b) the steps contemplated to expand set up. Ooordarshan network in Garhwal districts including setting upof a T. V. tower at Khera- Demands of Bank Employees khat in Khirshu block. of Pauri Garhwal. U.P. ?

8243. SHRI SUBEDAR: Will the Minis- THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION ter of FINANCE be pleased to state: AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS fSHRI P. (a) whether the bank staff went n a UPENDRA): (a) Whereasfjyevery low power day's strike recently paralysing the wo:- .ng TV transmitterslTransposers have been set of the banks in the country; up in Garhwal division of Uttar Pradesh during the last three years, one more trans- (b) if 50, the demands of the bank staff; posers is under implementation atMussoorie and in Dehradun district of Garhwal region, as a (c) the action taken to meet their de- spill over scheme of the Seventh Plan. mands? Besides, Doordarshan's annual plan for 1990-91 also includes establishment of a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE number of additional 'TV transm~8t'S. the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRl AR- locations of which depend. upon inter-sa ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). A sec~ priority for extension of TV service to uncov- 125 Written AnSWBIS VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 126 ered parts of the country. State Government during 1990-91; and

(b) Whereas there is no approved (e) if so, the details thereof and the scheme at present to se up a TV transmitter action being taken by Government in this at Kherakhal in Pauri Garhwal district of regard? Uttar Pradesh, it is the endeavour of the r Government to provide TV service in uncov- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ered parts of the country as expeditiously as MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS possible, dependent upon availability of AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- adequate resources for this purpose. TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a)to (c). Yes, Sir, The Govemment Development of Tourism In Gujarat of Gujarat had submitted number of proposals for Central Financial assistance for con- 8245. SHAI BAlVANT MANVAR: struction of Yatr; Niwases, tourist complexes, SHRI SHANKERSINH motels, picnic spots, etc. VAGHElA: SHRI N. J. RATHVA: (d) and (e). The development and pro- SHRI SHANTllAl PU- motion of tourism in the States is primarily RUSHOTTAM DAS the responsibility of the State Government. PATEL: However, the Central Department of Tour- SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Ism extends financial assistance for strengthening of tourists infrastructure on the basis of Will the Mlnisterof TOURISM be pleased specific proposals received from the State to state: Governments. Such proposals are considered on their merits, inter-se-prioritles and (a) whether Government of GUJarat availability of funds. had submitted any scheme to Union government to tap the touTism potentiality In the cases pending In courts of Deihl State in view of domestic and foreign tourists visiting Gujarat In view of attractions of ar- 8246. PROF. VIJAY KUMAR chaeological monuments, handicrafts, arts MALHOTRA: Will the Minister of LAW AND and exqUisite wildlife etc; JUSTICE be pleased to state:

(b) whether Government of Gujarat has (a) whether afresh survey tofind out the also sent any other plan to Government to pending court cases in Delhi lower co' 15 tap the tourism potentiality in the State in Session and d~trict courts and the J[' view of domestic and foreign tourists Visiting Court has been conducted; Gujarat in view of attractions of archaeological monuments, handicrafts, arts and exqui- (b) if so, the details of pending civil and site wildlife etc: criminal cases in each court till 31 Decem- ber, 1989 court-wise. (c) if so, the details of pending schemes! plans of Gujarat Governmentto attract more (c) whether Government propose to tourist s in State for Central approval. review the existing system with a view to facilitate quick disposal of court cases; and (d) whether Union Government propose to provide more central assistance for the . (d) if sO, the details of the proposed deveJopmant and to promote tourism to the action in this regard? 127 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Wnlfen AnsMHS 128

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES city during 1989 were 7, 48,101 and AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE 10,35,653 respectively. (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (d). As on 31.12.1989, 104205 civil and 5290 crimi- (b) Statistics of outgoing tourists are not nal cases were pending in Delhi High Court. compiled. Similar information in respect of Delhi lower, Session and district Courts is being col- (c) and (d). the Delhi Tourism Develop- lected and will be laid on the Table of the ment Corporation has 10 information count- House. ers located at major disembarkation points. These counters provide assistance like hotel (c) and (d). Ves, Sir. A Committee of reservation facilities, hiring of cars and three Chief Justices of High courts has been coaches, dissemnation of tourist literature constituted by the Government in January, etc. 1989, to examine the problem of arrears in courts in depth and to suggest remedial (e) concerted efforts of marketing and measures. publicity are made to disseminate information to foreign and domestic tourists. Tourists in Delhi Incident of Burning of Forms for 8247. SHRI MADAN LAL KH~RANA: enrolling new Voters and Deleting Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to Bogus Voters Deihl cantonment state: 8249. SHRI SHANTILAL PURUSHOT- (a) the number of foreign and domestic TAM DAS PATEL: Will the ~inister of LAW tourists who visited Deihl during the last AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: twelve months: (a) whether any complaint has been (b) the number of domestic tourists received against buming of thousands of from Delhi who visited tourist spots in other forms for enrolling new voters and deleting parts of the country during the last twelve the names of bogus voters from the list of months; electoral rolls at the Election Office, Delhi Cantonment, Delhi. (d) the facllit!es provided by States/ District authorities to domestic tourists of (b) if 50, the details thereof; and Delhi who visit their areas; and (c) the aelion taken by Government in (e) wnat further measures have been this regard? taken to attract foreIgn and domestic tourists in Delhi and at other tourists spots in the THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES country? AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) to (c). A THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE complaint was received by the Chief elec- MINISmVOFPARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS toral Officer Delhi alleging burning of form AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- containing claims and objections filed in re- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL lation to the draft electoral rolls of the South MALIK): (a) As perthe information available Delhi Parliamentary Constituency ~ the from the Delhi Administration, the number of Officer designated to receive such papers. in ~oreign and domestic tourists who visited the connivance with some others in January, 129 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKAl Written AnSwelS 130

1990. However, on enquiry it was found that (b) if so, the details thereof; all the receipted forms were in safe custody of the designated officer and only some (c) whether any court has ever given a blank and unreceipted forms seemed to have judgement regardjng ownership rights over been burnt by some increants with a view to rickshaws; maligning the official. All papers which had been duly received were tater handed over (d) if so, the details thereof: to the Electoral Registration OffICer for the Constituency for further necessary action. (e) the action taken by Government thereon. and Bogus RBI Circular (f) the other welfare measures pr0- 8250. SHRI K. S. RAO: Will the Minister posed to be taken by Government for the of FINANCE be pleased to state: rickshaw pullers?

(a) whether Government's attention THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE has been drawn to the new system cap- MIN ISTRY OF ANANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- tioned, uBogus RBI Circular takes exporters TRI): (a), (b) and (f). The Government is for a ride- appearing in the Economic Times aware of the problems of peq>le belonging dated 2 March. 1990: to poorer sections of the society including rickshaw pullers who are among the particu- (b) if so, the factual position thereof; larly disadvantaged sections of the society. The Government, therefore, launched a new (c) whether any enquiry has been scheme viz. Self Employment Programme conducted in this regard; and for Urban Poor (SEPUP) for providing loans through the banking system with a subsidy (d) if so, the outcome thereof? component in September, 1986. Under the scheme the borrower is eligible for a loan THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 'JI*) As. 5,000/- at an interest rate of 10% MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- per annum. The Central Government pr0- TRI). (a) Yes, Sir. vides a capital subsidy at the rate of 25% of the project cost. (b) to (d). Information is being collected from Reserve Bank of India, and, to the (c) to (e). Punjab National Bank has' extent available, Will be laid on the Table of reported that the Supreme Court had passed the House. an order in September, 1986 on the question whether the banks could extend the facility of [ Translation) loan without security to rickshaw pliers for the purchase of cycle rickshaws valued upto Economic Problems of Rickshaw a maximum of Rs. 2,0001-. Punjab National Pullers Bank had filed an affidavit stating that loans were available to rickshaw pullers for the 8251. SHRI YUVRAJ: Will the Minister purchase of cycle rickshaws under the RBI of FINANCE be pleased to state: guidelines on priority sector lending and the SEPUP. the bank will require hypothecation (a) whether any study has been made of rickshaws purchased with the bank loan by Government relating to the economic and no collateral security of guarantee is problems of rickshaw pullers: called for. 131 Written AnSwelS MAY 11. 1990 Wriften AnSMHS 132

Appointment of Members of Jaipur the Exchange. Stock Exchange id) does not arise. 8252. SHRI GOPAl PACHERWAl: 'Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Non-Plan Expenditure. state: 8253. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Wdl (a) whether any irregularity has been the Minister of finance be pleased to state: noticed by Government in appointment of the Members by Jaipur Stock Exchange in (a) whether non-plan expenditure has 1989; been increasing in comparison to plan expenditure; (b) if so, the details thereof and the action taken by Government thereon: (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the details of both since 1986-87 till 1989-90; (c) whether a large number of members and in this Stock Exchange have made no business so far; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the details of both since 1986-87 till 1989-90; (d) if so, the actIOn proposed to be taken and in this regard? Cc) the steps proposed to be taken to keep it below the plan expenditure? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN ISTAY OF RNANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TAl): (a) No. Sir. MINISTAYOF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) Does not arise. (b) and (c). The details of Non-Plan (c) Majority of the members of the Stock Expenditure and Plan expenditure of the Exchange are already working on the floor of Control Government are as follows:

(Rs. in craTes) 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 1989-90 (Actuals) (Actuals) (Provisional (R.E.) Actuals)

Non-Plan Expenditure 36747 40955 48754 59220

Plan Expenditure 22941 24209 26152 28476

Non-Plan expenditure includes interest of Finance commission and also committed payabki in borrowings made to finance plan expenditure on maintenance of schemes expenditure, defence expenditure. subsidies compteted n earlier Plan periods. All these on Food. Fertilizers, Exports, etc. grants to have to be funded only from Budget while a States on the basis of the recOmmendations good apart of Plan expenditure is expected 133 Written Answers VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

to be funded by internal and extra budgetary cided to abolish thp freight equalisation resources of Public ent.erprises also. In 1989- scheme in a phased manner. However. when 90 R.E. as much as 48.9% of total Central this decision was made known in the Parfia- Plan outlay was to be met from the latter ment many State Governments prepresented source. against withdrawal fa this scheme. The Government has therefore, decided to refer In the circumstance non-Plan expendi- this matter to the National Development ture in budget will always be higher than plan Council. expenditure from Budget. However it is always the endeavourof government to keep Bauxite ore/Alumina Plant In Andhra the growth of non-plan expenditure to the Pradesh minimum n~essary, so as to maximise the resources available for funding developmen- 8255. SHRIMATI CHENNUPATI tal schemes and plan projects. VIDYA: SHRI M. M. PALLAM RAJU: IEnglish] SHRI RAMA KRISHNA KONTHALA: Withdrawal of Freight Equalisation Scheme in West Bengal Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 8254. SHRI SUDHIR GIRl: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased (a) the areas identified as rich in bauxite to state: deposits: and

ia) whether Government of West Ben- (b) the present status of the proposed gal have requested for withdrawal of the bauxite ore/alumina complex in Andhra existing freight equalisation scheme In its Pradesh? totality:

(b) if so, the reasons advanced by the THE MINISTEROF STEEL AND MINES State Government; and AND MINSTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (c) the reasons for non-abolition of the said scheme as yet? (a) Rich deposits of Bauxite are known in the districts of East Godavari and THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh; Ranchi, AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE Santhalparganas. Gumla and Lohardaga in ·(SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (b). the Bihar; Jamnagar. Janagadh and Kutch in Government of West Bengal have requested Gujarat; Udhampur in Jammu and Kashmir; for withdrawal of the existing freight equali- Uttar Kannad and Dakshin Kannad in Karna- . sation sc.heme for iron and steel on the taka. Cennanore in Kerala; Balaghat. Bi- ground that the policy is depriving them of laspur, Mandla, Rewa and Sarguja in Madhya the advantage of prQximity to the source of Pradesh, KoIaba, KoIhapur. Ratoagii and raw material. Another reason advanced by Satara in Uaharashtra: Bough-Khondmas, them is that the policy has not been ex- Bolangir.5ampqM, KaIahandi. Kendujhar tended to other commodities. and Koraput in Orissa: Nilgiris and Salam in Tamil Nadu; Banda and Lali1pur districts in (c) The Government has initially de- Uttar Pradesh: and also in the Stale of Goa. 135 Writen AnSwelS MAY 11,1990 Written Answel'S 136

(b) The feasibility report prepared jointly rate is As. 1921- per MY on audeoll and 10% by Indian and soviet experts for setting up a of value of natural gas obtained at the weU .. 2.3 m~lion mnnas per annum Bauxite Mining ,",ead. this is also applicable uniformly Compiex in Andhra Pradesh exdusively for throughout the country. In both types of export to USSR was considered In Decem- cases royalty is payable by the mining lease ber, 1987 and it was found to be not ec0- holder to the State Government concerned; nomically viable. The proposal was agair and in no case does the Union Government received in a joint meeting of Soviet and pay royalty to any State Government. Indian experts in April, 1989 following which the Soviet Side has now indicated that the (b) and (c). In view of reply to (a) above, Bauxite Mining Complex of 2.3 million ton- (b) and (c) do not arise. nas per annum W'Du.id not be VJable. [Eng/ish] [ Translation] Schemes Financed by Nabard Royalty on Minerals to Bihar 8257. SHRI GOPI NATH JAJAPATHI: 8256. Shri Ram Sharan yadav: Will the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased state: to state: (a) the schemes being implemented at (a) whether Union Government pay present in different States which are financed 1.25 per cent royalty on minerals to Bihar, by the National Bank for Agriculture and whereas 37 per cent royalty is paid to assam Rural Development (NABARD) both in the on petroleum products; agriculture and non .. farm sectors;

(b) if so, whether Government propose (b) whether any such scheme is being to pay the same royalty to Bihar Government financed by the NABARD in Orissa: and on minerals; and (c) if so, tne details thereof? (c) if not, the reasons therefor? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OFSTEElAND MINES MINISTAYOFFINANCE (SHRIANllSHAS.. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE TAl): (a) to (c). National Bank for Agriculture (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Royalty on and Rural Development (NABARO)has re- major minerals produced in any State is fixed ported that the activities under the following at a uniform rate by the Central Government. schemes are being financed by it, at present, The rates payable mineral-wise are speci- in different States including State of Orissa: fied in the Second Schedule under Section 9 of the Mines and Minerals (Regulation and 1. Minor Irrigation Development) Act, 1987. 2. Rural Electrification Corporation likewise for Petroleum, royalty is pay- (REC) and State Electricity Board able on crude oil and natural gas and not on (SEB) petroleum products and this is governed by the provisions of Oil fields (Regulation and 3. land Development DeveJopment) Ad, 1984 and the Petroleum and Natural Gas rules, 1959. The present 4. Farm Mechanisaton 137 Written Answers VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Wrtten AnsMHS 138

5. Dry Land Farming approached the Government for providing time-bound promotion to officers in the Serv- 6. Plantation and Horticulture ice. However, no final view has so far been taken in this regard. 7. Dairy Development & animal Hus- bandry Indo-Portuguese Agreement for Return of Goa Gold 8. Fisheries (Inland and Marine) 8259. SHAI L. K. ADVANI: 9. Storage Godowns Market Yards SHRI SHANKER SINGH VAGHELA; 10. Forestry and Wasteland Develorr SHRl PHOOLCHAND ment VERMA:

11. Bio-GasfGobar Gas Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 12. Omtegrated Rural Development Project (a) whether the draft agreement, 1990 has been finalised between the Portuguese 13. Non-Farm Sector ~ctlVities and the Indian authorities regarding the return of Goa gold which was taken away by 14. ScrST ActIOn Plan the Portuguese authorities from Goa to Usbon when Goa was liberated; Cadre Review of IES Officers (b) the present value olthe gold and the 8258. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO: Will the procedure and time table fo its return to its Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: owners.t1heir successors:

(a) Whether the Service Rules for lEX (c) whether it has been ensured thatthe provide tor review of cadre structure penodi· 1990 draft will finally be honoured and imple- cally: mented: and

(b) the number of times the reviews (d) the estimated number of beneficiar- have been made so far after the mitial consti- ies? tutIOn and the lates year when the cadre review was made: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTAYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- (c) whether Government was ap- TAl): (a) to (d). The Portuguese Govern- proached for giving time scales pending ment have indicated there readiness to re- cadre review: and turn the gold ornaments removed from Goa to Lisbon. A team of State Bank of India THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE officials would be visiting Lisbon to finalise MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- an agreement on this subject. TRIl: (a) and (b). the IES rules 1961 as amended from time to time do not provide for The book value of the gold ornaments review of cadre strudure periodically. pledged with the erstwhile Banco National Ultramarino when it was operating in Goa, (c) and (d). The IES associations have was estimated at Rs. 16.33 lakhs in 6531 139 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written Answ9.'S 140 loan accounts at the time of their transfer to Setting up of State Level Courts to Deal Portugal. In the absence of approved valu- with economic Offences ation it is not possible to indicate the exact value at present. 8261. SHRI B. N. REDDY: SHRI SHED SHARAN Empanetment of Newspapers and VERMA: Periodicals by DAVP SHRITEJ NARAYAN SINGH: SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD ·8260. SHAILENDRANATH SHRIVAS- YADAV: TAVA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (a) the details of newspapers and periodicals, which have applied for empanel- (a) Whether the machinery available ment by the Directorate of Advertising and with Union Government is not adequate Visual Publicity (DAVP) during January- enough to deal with economic offences; March, 1990. (b) if so, the details of inadeuacies (b) the averagetlmetaken by the DAVP found therein; for empanelment: (c) whether Government propose to se (c) the number of newspapers and up State-level courts for adjudication of cases penodicals whose cases have since been of cases of economic offences; deaded; Cind (d) whether the matter has also been (d) the reasons for non-empanelment taken up with the State Governments; of those newspapers and penodicals whose requests are pending? (e) the response of the State Govern- ments thereto; and the details of States who THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION have opposed the proposal; and AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (f) the final decision taken by Union UPENDRA): (a) 233 applications were re- Government in this regard, State-wise? ceived by DAVP during the month of Janu- ary-March, 1990 for empanelment. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (b) Approximately four to si~ weeks. TRI): (a) and (b). It cannot be said that the machinery available with the Union Govern- (c) 88 cases have already been de- ment is not adequate to deal with economic cided. offices.

(d) Additional information have been (c) to (f). Government had proposed to called for in respect of 103 cases. Process- some of the State Governments setting up of ing of the remaining 42 cases which are special courts for trial of economic offenCes. found complete in all respects, is held up due The responsed of these State Governments to the pre-occupation of the computer, which so far has generally been positive. Such is being used for renewal of rate contract for special courts are already functioning in some the year 1990-91, of 3000 publications. States. Government is taking up the ques- 141 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 142 tlon of settmg up of more special courts with per/periodICal with a Circulation the State Governments of upto 25,000 copies per publishing day IS categorised as Incentives to Small Scale Newspapers! Sma" The limit hrtherto was Weeklies In Nagaland 15,OOOcoptesperpubiishingday The publICations with a Circula- 8262 SHRI SHIKIHO SEMA Will the tion of more than 25,000 COPieS MInister of INFORMAliON AND BROAD- and upto 75,000 COPieS per CASTING be pleased to state publishing day are now classified as Medium Earlter the Itmrts (a) the details of incentives given to were more than 15,000 cop,es Small Scale Newspaperslweekly by Union and upto 50,000 copies per Government publishing day Similarly, the norm for a blQ newspaPer IS now (b) whether the same benefits/incen- a circulatIOn more than 75,000 tives are being given to local weeklies In copies as agaInst more than Nagaland also and 50,000 copies per publishing day earlier (c) If so, the benefrtsllncentlves given to each paper yearwlse for the last three years? 2 Normally a newspaper must be registered with the RNI before It THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION IS allotted newsprint A prOVISIOn AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF has been made from 1989-90 to PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P release newsprint to newspapers UPENDRA) (a) The details of concessIOns/ even pnor to their registratIOn faCilities are given below In the statement provided they get themselves registered With the RNI within (b) and (c) Flow 01 benefits depends on three months of the date of the the fact whether newspapers have beem release of authonsatlOn apphed for newsprint and/or have been applied for advertisements etc No newspa- 3 Regular newspapers with an per/weekly seems to have apphed for News- annual entitlement of 200 MT of prrnt Three Enghsh Weeklies are registered newsprint are given the option to from Nagaland are em panelled With DAVP take Imported newsprint to 100 and the covered by condltlonslincenllves per cent extent gIven to small scale news papers In general 4 Small newspapers are fully ex- ConcesslOnslFac,I,',es available to small empted from the customs duty and medium Newspapers on Imported standard newsprtnt. whICh IS chargeable at the rate of fA) FaCilities extended by Registrar of Rs 4501- PMT Npwspapers for India 5 Newspapers In medium category The classifICatIOn norms of the are reqUired to pay customs duty Sma", Med,um and Big newspa- at the rate of 275/- as against pers have been revised with ef- chargeable rate of Rs. 450/- PMT fect from 1.4 1989. A newspa- on Imported standard newsprint 143 Written Answers MAY 11,1990

6. Newspapers with an annual en- the Government of India, the following facili- titlement of 50 MT or below are ties have been extended to language news- given the option to take the entire papers in general and 'Sman and Medium' quantity in one instalment or more newspapers in particular: as against quarterly authorisa- tions issued generally. The (i) The general eligibility requirement newspapers with an annual enti- of paid circclation is 1000 copies tlement of more than 50 MT and per issue. Relaxation is, however, upto 200 MT are released news- permissible in the case of the fol- print on half-yearly basis. Iowing:-

7. Fresh applicants are given initial (a) SpecialisedlScientificITechnical quota for the first SIX months from journals with a paid circulation of IndigenoUS mills. However. quan- 500 copies per issue; tities upto 5 MT are given In Imported newsprint (b) Sanskrit newspapersfJOurnals and newspapers journals pub- 8. NorMally, 25 percent of Imported lished in backward, border or newsprint IS given from STC's remote areas or in tribal lan- buffer stock. Newspapers with guages or primarily meant for an annual entitlement of 50 MT trbal readers with a minimum or below are given the optIOn to paid CIrculation of 500 copies per take the entire quantity or part of issue. quantity from buffer stock. (ii) In the matter of print area also 9. Normally the performance cer- relaxation is permissible to news- tifICate of a newspaper is reqUired papersfpurnals published in tribal to be signed by a Chartered languages or primarily meant for Accountant. However, newspa- tribal readership. pers with a Circulaton of 2,000 copies or below are exempted (iii) NewspapersfJOumals with paid cir- from thiS requirement. culation upto 2000 copies are exempted from the requirement of 10. Small and medium newspapers submitting certificate of circulation are eligible for prICe concessIOn from Chartered Accountant etc. at the rate of Rs. 700/- PMT and Rs. 350~- PMT respectively for the newsprint Idled by them after (IV) There is parity of rates in the maner June. 1989 from the indigenous of fixing advertisement rates i.e. no mIlls against their entitlement for discrimination is made between the 1989-90 English newspapers and language newspapers. However, language papers periodicals upto a circula- (8) FacilitieS extended by the Director- tion of 10,000 copies enjoy a high ate of Advertismg and Visual Publicity basis rate than their counterparts in English. A large number of small paperslperiodicals borne on DA VP Under the eXISting advertISIng policy of Media list fall in this category. 145. Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 ( SAKA) Writton Answers 146

(CJ Facilities extended by Press Informa important activity of the Bureau which en tion Bureau ablss representatives of the press to have first hand knowledge of the developmental Newspapers: The Press Information activity going on in different parts of the Bureau (PIB), in pursuance of its policy of country. Representatives of different papers providing more and more services to the are taken at frequent intervals to selected small and medium newspapers, gives a projects for this type of special study. Lan number of special facilities to them. Besides guage and small and medium papers get making available its general services such representation in these conducted tours. as news releases and features, it has been supplying other types of news services such ACCREDITATION: as science digests, agriculture news letters (Krishi Patrika), Ebonoid blocks, charbas Accreditation rules have been liberal (for Urdu Papers only) and illustrated photo ised to extend greater facilities to small and features. medium papers. As per rules, only newspa pers with a circulation of over 5,000 copes News Services: A number of services are eligible for accreditation. In order, how tailored to the needs of small papers have ever, to assist the smaller papers, this con been introduced. In-depth stories written in dition has been relaxed and now two or more simple and capsule form covering develop small newspapers can jointly seek accredi ments in various spheres such as science, tation for a common correspondent. The economic growth, agriculture. health and rules also provide that special consideration family welfare are prepared and supplied to may be shown to newspapers devoted to them in all major languages of the country. A science and technology and to those pub weekly news digest Gramin Patra Seva pri lished from hilly or backward areas, or from marily· meant for small papers was intro regions under-developed in terms of infor duced in Hindi in 1977. mation and communication. The Bureau's mailing list now containts a large number of Photo Services: The Bureau also sup small and medium newspapers as well as plies illustrated photo features ebonoidblocks correspondents accredited on their behalf. to small papers. The charba ssrvices. which consist of Zinc block for use in Urdu Litho Cash Compensatory Supporton Export Print. have become quite popular. of Drugs

Special Services Cell: The Bureau has 8263. SHRI KALPNATH SONKAR: Will set up a special service Cell a_tthe headquar the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to ters with representatives in Bombay, Cal state: cutta and Madras. The Cell is entrusted with the task of preparing field based develop (a) the cash compensatory support ment sto· ,;s and making them available to (CCS) given by his ministry on exports of th8 !21ngc1.,w• newspapers. The emphasis is drugs during last three years, year-wise: on P'O. r! -, 1 locally. relevant photographs, r,;1rt001ap!1'.. ind ebonoici blocks. (b) the names of major drugs and the basis on which CCS was given on each drug; PRESS PART:ES: (c) whether his ministry has given CCS Organising press parties to various even in those cases where there has been Central Government orojects is ar rot.ner no substantial gain in foreign exchange; and 147 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnswelS 148

(d) if so, the details thereof? principle of equal wage for equal work; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the details thereof and decision MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- so far taken by Govemment in the matter? ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Separate information on cash compensatory support THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (CCS) on export of drugs is not maintained. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- However, the following CCS was paid during TAl): (a) and (b). The question for parity at the last three years on the &xport of Chemi- the lowest level where job content, duties calsand Allied Products (includingdrugs):- and responsibilities are stated to be similar in public undertakings has been looked into by (Rs. in crores) the Fourth Central Pay Commission. The Commission has observed that it appears 1986-87 55.07 tl,at the job content of even a peon/messen- ger in the Central Government may not be 1987-88 74.15 similar in all respects with that in the public sector undertakings for a variety of reasons. 1988-89 121.72 There are also differences due to combina- tion of tasks. The Commission has further (b) to (d). Cash Compensatory Support observed that the Administration of the is given to exporters to compensate them for Central Government has acquired its own unrebated and unrefunded inciirect taxes distinctiveness. There are organised serv- that are paid on inputs for export production ices and cadr&s with their own hierarchy. so that Indian goods become internationally suited to the role assigned to them. The competitive. CCS at 15%ofthe FOB value is duties and responsibilities of the functionar- admissible on export of drugs with the ex- ies at various levels are unique and difficult ceptIOn of 27 items of drugs included in the to compare with outside employment. The negative list. Actual payment of CCS is employment in Government has its own subject to the cut-off formula of 25% of value status and security. The pay structure for the addition. employees of such a vast and complex organisation cannot be based in a simple Equal Wage for Equal Work comparison of the pay scales of posts at the lowest level on the public sector undertak- 8264. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD ings The public sector undertakings have VARMA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be been created by Government for specified pleased to state: purposes, and have adopted their own pay structure. The nature of work there and the (a) whether the principle of equal wage conditions of the service are different. The for equal work has seriously been imple- Commission concluded that the pay struc- mented for the benefit of all the employees of ture and conditions of service of Central Central Government, Public Sectors and Government employees have to be deter- Autonomous bodies: mined on there own merits. As such wage structure in the Central Government is dis- (b) if so, the details thereof; tinct from that in the Public Sector Undertak- ings. (c) whether Government have received representations from the Central Govern- (c) and (d). The Government has been ment employees for not implementing the receiving representations from the Central 149 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 150

Government employees for reVISIOn of scales whICh are Important In view of tourism m the based on the principle of equal wage for State, equal work amongst employees of different Government Departments In respect of posts (e) If so, the details thereof, and where the duties and responsIbilities are stated to be identical These representatIOns (f) If not, the reasons therefor? are examined and where the Government IS satisfied the scales are modified appropn- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ately MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Plan for Development of Tourism In TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL Rajasthan MALIK) (a) The Government actIVely pro- motes the State of Rajasthan which IS a 8265 PROF RASA SINGH RAWAT popular destination for both domestic and Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to International markets through the pnntlng of state attractive folders, posters and brochures and the productIOn of specifIC films (a) whether Government have any special plan to promote tourism In RaJast- (b) and (c) A statement giving proJectsl han, schemes sanctIOned dunng the last three years In the State of Rajasthan IS given (b) If so, the details of schemes ap- below proved for promoting tourism In Rajasthan dunng the last three years (d) to (f) The Government of India, (ArchaeologICal Survey of India) has no (c) the amount sanctioned for each scheme for the grant of Central assistance scheme and the amount spent on each of for the protectIOn of historical monuments them so far, bUlldmgs and places whICh are of tOUrist Importance In the State However, technical help and guidance sought by the State (d) whether Government provide any Government In the matter of protectIOn and Central assistance for the protection of hiS- preservation of ancient monuments IS ex- torICal monuments, bUildings and places tended 151 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 152

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[ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND' MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE Representation for Banning of Film on (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Sir. Balmiki (b) 0.75 million tonnes per year. 8266. SHRI SHEO SHARAN VERMA:' Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND' (c) At this stage the proposal is only for BROADCASTING be pleased to state: preparation of a Detailed Project Report (DPR). The precise implementation sched (a) whether Government have received ule will be known after the DPR has been any representation to ban th� film on Balmiki; prepared and when and if an investment and decision is taken.

(b) if so, the action being taken by { Translation] Government in this regard? Wage Agreement in Manganese Ore THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION (India) Ltd. AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. 8268. PROF. MAHADEO UPENDRA): (a) Yes. Sir. SHIWANKAR: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) The Government has issued a direc tion to the Central Board of Film Certification (a) whether Government have received to send the record of the film, if ,Jny, to any representation on 27th December, 1989 Government under Section 6 of the Cinerna regarding wage agreement concluded by tograph Act, 1952. Manganese Ore (India) Limited;

[English) (b) if so, the details thereof; and

Joint Project by KIOCL (c) the action taken or contemplated in this regard? 8267. SHRl H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES p!eased to state: ANO MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHR! DINESH GOSWAMI}: (a) and (b). (a) whether there is any proposal I set Yes, Sir, the main points raised in the repre up a joint sector project by Kudremu"''' lro.n sentation are as follows: Ore Company Limited with Steel Authmi!y of India Limited at Mangalore: (i) The wage agreement should be w.e.f. 1.4.1987 instead of 1.1.1989.

(b) if so, the estimated quantity of r ,t (ii) Wage agreement should be at par briquetted iron to be pro

(c) when the above joint sector project is (iii) Wage agreement should include likely to be implemented? benefits ofleave, l TC etc., as given 157 Written AnswslS VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnSW91S 158

to Officers. ices, either wholly or partially.

(iv) Wage agreement should be settled (c) and (d). TV service is expected to with recognised union, Staff Wel~ improve in Anantapur, Ku rnool , Cuddapah, \ fare Association, Nagpur. Chittoor and Nellore districts consequent on commissioning of the high power TV trans- (c) The total number of non~executive mitters under implementation at Anantapur employees of the Company are 9049 and and Tirupati envisaged to be commissioned 205 at the mines sites and at headquarters Into service during 1990 and 1991 respec- respectively. After obtaining Government tively. It is the endeavour of Government to approval, the management of MOIL have further improve TV service in the State as signed a Memorandum of Agreement on expeditiously as possible depending upon 14.2.1990 with Rashtnya Manganese the availability of resources for the purpose. Mazdoor Sangh, the majorrty union repre~ sentlng the employees at the mines. Over New Serial on DATE 99% of the employees at these sites have drawn their arrears In accordance with the 8270. SHRI SARJU PRASAD SAROJ: prOVISIOns of thiS wage agreement The Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND Implementation of the agreement with re- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: spect to the remaining employees IS under progress (a) whether Government propose to start a new senal on Drug Education and [English] Tobacco EducatIOn [DATE]

Coverage of Andhra Pradesh by (b) if so, the duration of the serial and the Doordarshan date from which it would be started; and

8269. SHRI P. PENCHALAIAH. (c) the main and precise features of the SHRI B.N. REDDY' senal? DR VISHWANATHAM' THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Will the MInister of INFORMATION AND AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF BROADCASTING be pleased to state' PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) No such serial, atptOSPFlt is (a) whether all the districts of Andhra slotted for telecast on the national net .. ')f Pradesh are covered by Doordarshan; Doordarshan.

(b) if not, the districts yet to be covered; (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to cover the remaining districts Includ- Ing the northern part of Srikakulam distrICt by Setting up of Doordarshan Kendra In Govemment; and Hissar (d) the time by whICh these are likely to be covered? 8271. SHRI CHIRANJILAl SHARMA: THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF BROADCASTING be pleased to state: PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) and (b). All the 23 district of (a) the progress made so far in setting Andhra Pradesh are covered by TV serv- up Doordarshan Kendra at Hissar; a'ld 159 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 160

(b) the time by which it is likely to be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE completed? MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (e). The Deposit Insurance and THE MIN ISTER OF INFORMATION Credit Guarantee Corporation (OICGC) was AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF established to achieve the twin objectives of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. giving protection to small depositors in banks UPENDRA): (a) and (b). It has been recently and providing guarantee support to credit decided in principle to set up a TV Studio extended by eligible credit institutions to Centre and a 1OKW transmitter at Hissar in certain categories of small borrowers par- Haryana, subject to availability of funds. The ticularly those belonging to the weaker sec- lead time for completion of projects of this tions of society. Reserve Bank of India (RBI) nature is about tour years after commence- had advised all scheduled oommercial banks ment of civil works at the site. on May. 1989 as under:

Interest charged by Nationalised Banks (i) Banks will continue to bear the on NABARD Loans guarantee fees in respect of advances to weaker sections, pure 8272. SHRI D.M. PUTTE GOWDA: consumption loans etc. as hitherto. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (ii) In the case of advances where the banks charge interest of 16 per (a) whether the Deposit Insurance cent or more. the banks will have to Corporation of India was formed mainly to absorb the guarantee fees. give security to banks for loans provided to poor people under several popular schemes (iii) In all other cases, the banks should of Government: ensure that the lending rate as stipulated together with the guarantee (b) whether the Reserve Bank of India fee, irrespective of whether it is has instructed all the nationalised banks to levied separately or not, does not collect 1.5 per cent interest on all the Na- exceed 16 per cent. tional Bank for Agriculture and Rural Devel- opment (NABARD) loans mentioning it as 1 . The above instructions issued by fees for the DepoSIT Insurance Corporation RBI apply to all priority sector ad- of India: vances and were made applicable from April 1, 1989. (c) whether bank advances are secured to a maximum of Rs. 25,000 in case of bad 2. It has been decided by DICGC to debts: bring into force the enhanced guarantee fee rate of 1.5% per annum (d) whether the 1.5 per cent interest is uniformly from April 1, 1~89. The charged on all the NABARD development Regional Rural Banks (RRBs) will loans irrespective of the amount involved; however, continue to pay guaran- and tee fee at the rate of 0.755 per annum till they complete 5 years of (e) if so, the action proposed to be taken their joining the Small Loan (SSI) by Government so that the 1.5 per cent GuaranfeeScheme and after which interest is not charged on the amount of they would pay the guarantee fee loans which exceed Rs. 25.000? at the rate of 1.5% per annum as 161 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Writen Answet'S 162

applicable to the commercial banks. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- 3. The Corporation's claim liability is ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) No, Sir. at prese{1t 60% of the amount in default for schemes In the non- (b) Does not arise. Industnal sector and 60% to 50% of the amount In default for the small (c) Does not arise. scale industries according to the size of the credit or the monetary (d) Indian Supply Wings (ISW) are lo- celhng as prescribed under the cated in the High Commission of India, scheme. The purpose-wise mone- london and the Embassy of India, Washing- tary ceIling on the CorporatIOn's ton. Over the years the quantum of work claim hability for the scheme relat- handled by the two Wings has progressively In9 to small borrowers vanes from decreased. The need fortheir oontinuance is Rs 10,000 to Rs 1,50,000/- forthe being actively reviewed by the Government category of borrowers like farmers of India. and agricultUrists, retail traders and transport operators etc effective Potentiality of Tourism In Orissa from 1 4 1989 The monetary ceil- Ing on the Corporation's claim lia- 8274. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: bility for the small scale Industnes Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to under the Small Loans (SSI) Guar- state: antee Scheme, 1981 effectlvefrom 1 4.1989 IS Rs. 20 lakhs (a) whether Government are aware that the tourism of Orissa depends on the coastal Decentralisation of Supply Department Districts of Orissa which have a rich potentiality of tourism; 8273 SHAI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE' Will the Minister of COM- (b) whether hiS Ministry is also aware MERCE be pleased to state: that, restrictions have been imposed on developmental activities within 500 metres (a) whether Government propose to from the High Tide line and the Orissa Wind up the Department of Supply; Government has been instructed to prepare Environment Management Plan for the en- (b) whether before taking a deCISIon to tire coastal area of Orissa which has given a dismantle thiS massive purchase organisa- set back to the tourism in the State: and tion. the views of the various Mlnlstnes were ehclted: (c) if so, the actIOn taken or proposed to be taken to clear the projects to allow developmental activrty on the Onssa beaches? (c) If so, their reactIOn thereto particularly of the majOr buymg MInistries like Rail- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ways. Defence etc: and MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL (d) the places where presently supply MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. Government is aware MISSIOns abroad are situated and the deci- of rich potentiality of tourism of the beaches sion taken regarding their future set up? of Orissa. 163 Written AnswelS MAY 11, 1990 Written Answers 164

(b) and (c). The restrictions of 500 metres inauguration of new branches, new prem- ban from High Tide line has been relaxed for ises, etc. Puri-Konark beach and has been reduced to 200 metres for undertaking any develop- Legal Aid and LokAdalatAct mental activities. However, each beach resort project has to be cleared from Environmental. 8276. SHRIGUMANMAllOOHA: Wdlthe angle on case to case basis through a Inter· Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased Ministerial Committee constituted tor this to state: purpose. It has always been the endeavour of the Government to dear the projects as early as possible. The State Government (a) whether the Legal Aid and lok had been advised to prepare a coastal Adalat Act which was passed earlier is likely Management Plan as per the directive is- to be enforced and if so, the details thereof: sued by the then Prime Minister for safegur- ding beaches from pollution. This would not be a set -back to the tourism in the State. The (b) the number of cases settled through development of beach resorts in a planned lok Adalats during the last three years with manner will enhance the beauty of the area classification of Criminal. Civil. labour. In- besides preservation and enrichment of the dustrial, Accident claims State-wise; and environment which are conducive for development of Tourism. (c) whether Government propose to include cases for revenue and administra- MP's Participation in Banking Opera- tive matters disputes under lok Adalats? tions

8275. SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to AND MINISTER OF lAW AND JUSTICE state: (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The Gov- ernment is contemplating to introduce a Bill to amend the legal Services Authorities Ad. (a) whether Government have issued 1987 in this Session and the Act would be instructions to all the branches of the nation- enforced after the amendment Bill is passed alised banks to invite the local Members of by Parliament. Parliament to participate in all the functions conducted by the banks like the opening of new bank branch, shifting to the new bank (b) The lok Adalat movement, by and building, distribution of prizes to various staff. large. had been started in the country around and other national and sports functions: and the end of the 1985. As per information available with the Committee for Implement- (b) if so, the details thereof? ing legal Aid Schemes, in 3468lok Adalats over 2O.511akh cases have been settled in difterent parts of the country out of which THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 64,505 are MACT cases as per details re- MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHAI ANll SHAS- flected in the statement given below. TRI): (a) and (b). Instructions have already been issued to all the public sector banks to associate the local Members of Parliament (c) Lok ~alats are the outcome of vol- with Public functions organised by them for untary efforts for resolution of disputes 165 WMten AnSW9tS VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 166 through mutual consent and oonciliatory labour; family disputes; labour disputes; method. The types of cases which are pres- cases relating to minimum wages and dis- ently being deatt with by the Lok Adalats putes relating to Workmen's Compensation. include cjy~. criminal and revenue; cases The scope of lok Adalat is being widened in involving motor accident claims; land acqui- a phased manner. sition cases; cases pertaining to bonded· 167 Written AnswelS MAY 11,1990 Written AnswelS 168

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Seizure of foreign CWNncy by cal steps taken by Government to give greater export impetus for export to these countries? 8278. SHRI BAHWARllAL PUROHIT: Will the Mj~ister of FINANCE be pleased to THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND state: TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether the CBI has recently recovered foreign currency worth As. 6.3 lakhs (b) Does not arise. allegedly misappropriated few years back in State Bank of Travancore; Scheme for Legal Aid to Poor

(b) it so, full facts In this regard: and 8280. DR. VENKATESH KABDE: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be (c) the further action Government pro- pleased to state: pose te take In this (egard? (a) whether a machanism has ooet1 set THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE up to review the scheme of 'Legai aid for MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- poor'; TRI): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. Central Bureau of Investigation has reported that after registra- (b) if so, the results of evaluation of such tion of case no. 6 (A)190-KER dated 28.2.90, programme: and searches were conduct eo at the residence of a former managerof Kadakkavoorbranch, (c) the steps taken by Government to State Bank of Travancore on 9.3.90 and, as provide free legal aid to poor people? a result thereof, foreign currency worth approximately Rs. 6.3 lakhs was seized, THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES besides 128 Items of incriminating docu- AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE ments. The bank has placed the manager (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (b). No under suspension. formal All-India review of the working of the scheme of 'legal Aid for poor' has yet been Decline in Export to Industrialised done. Committee for Implementing legal Countries Aid Schemes was set up in September. 1980 and it took some time to become fundional. 8279. SHRI MAHADEEPAK SINGH In the initial years, greater emphasis was put SHAKYA: on setting up of the State and Union Territory SHRI SHANKERSINH Boards and for provision of a common pat: VAGHELA: tern of approach to the problems. From SHRI L.K. ADVANI: 1985, activities were expanded and lok Adalat system came to be accepted as a Will the Minister of COMMERCE be modality for disposal of cases. The Legal Aid pleased to state: Programme. including the Lok Adalats. are often attended by the ExecutIve Chairman (a) whether Indian exports to Industrial- and other officers of the Committee for ised countries (OECD) have declined during Implementing legal Aid Schemes. Thus, 1985-88 as compared to 1982-85 as re- there is a constant feed-back regarding ported by a F ICC I study: and implementation of the Legal Aid Programme as also the functioning and achievements of (b) if 50, the reasons therefor and the the Lok Adalats held in varjous parts of the 199 Written AnSW91S MAY 11,1990 Written AnSwelS 200

country. In due course, Government may [Translation ] take up a review. muds In Nalnltal Bank Limited (c) The legal Aid Programme adopted by the Committee for Implementing Legal 8282. SHRI HAAISH RAWAT: Win the Aid schemes is of two-fold nature (a) Court_, Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: oriented litigation; and (b) Preventive or Strategic legal Aid Programmes. (a) whether some officers of the Nainital Bank Umited which is under the administrative control of the Bank of Baroda have been Under the Court-oriented litigation, free dismissed on charges of embezzlement; legal services are provided to the poor and weaker sections of the society whose annual (b) if so, the number thereof and the income from all sources does not exceed amount embezzled by them; As. 6000/- for the Munsif and High Court cases and As. 90001- before the Supreme (c) the date when the Bank of Baroda Court. This income ceiling will be enhanced took over the Nainital Bank limited; and to As. 90001- upto High Courts and Rs. 12,000/- for the Supreme Court cases with (d) the amount embezzled since the the enforcement of the legal Services Au- Bank of Baroda took over the Nainital Bank thorities Act, 1987. The limitation as to in- limited? come is not applicable in case of persons belonging to scheduled Castes, Scheduled THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Tribes, Nomadic Tribes and Vimukta Jatis; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRJ ANll women and children, SHASTRI): (a) to (d). Nainital Bank limited is an independent banking company and Incentive to Spices Growers has not been taken over by Bank of Baroda. However, Bank of Baroda holds certain 8281. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the shares in the Nainital Bank limited. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: Nainital Bank limited has reported that (a) the total value and quantity of spices it has not dism~sed any officer on charges of imported in 1989-90; embezzlement. However, the bank had ter- minated the services of three offICers during (b) the steps taken to improve local the last eleven yealS on different grounds. production 01 spices; [Eng/ish] Cc) whether there are incentive schemes to encourage growers to grow spices; and Revlaw of Newsprint Price.

(d) if so, the details thereof? 8283. SHRI NARSINGRAO SURYA- WANSHI: Will the Minister of INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEOHARAN): (a) to «(I). The (a) whether Government propose to information is baing collected and would be review/reduce the price altt improve the laid on the Table of the House. quality of indigenous newsprint; 201 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Wtiten AnSwefS 202

(b) If so, the time by whICh rtwillbedon&; (b) to (d). Does not arise.

(e) whether Government also propose Price of Rubber to put newsprint Import under OOl and distribute It through STC to publishers of news- 8285. SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJES- papers, and WARI: SHRI G S BASAVARAJ: (d) If so, when? Will the MInister of COMMERCE be THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION pleased to state' AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P (a) whether the Northern India Rubber UPENDRA) (a) and (b) Government do not Goods Manufacturers Association has ex- exercise any statutory control over the pnce pressed concern at the high pnce of rubber; of indigenous newsprint It has been the endeavour to Improve quality wherever fea- (b) If so, whether the aSSOCiatIOn has sible submitted any representatIOn In thIS regard, and (c) No decIsIOn has been taken to put newsprint ImportunderO G l State Trading (c) If so, the Government's reactIOn Corporation IS now the canahslng agency thereon? which Imports and d,stnbutes newspnnt THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Does not anse MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN)' (a) to (c). The ADS's Aid to Indian Industry Government has not received any represen- tatIOn from the Northern India Rubber Goods 8284 SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJES- Manufacturers ASSOCiatIOn. WARI Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state However, the Government is already taktng adequate steps to ensure regular (a) whether the ASian Development supply of rubber to the consuming Industry at Sank (ADS) has identified five new are;)s of a Jeasonable rate, while simultaneously opportunity for 'ndlPn Industry to partICipate safeguarding the Interests of the rubber In ADS funded proJects, growers

(b) 11 so, the details thereof? Import of Tea

(c) to what extent, It Will help 10 Increas- 8286. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Will 109 the productIOn In the Indian mdustry. and the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state' (d) the total amount of finance provtdedl proposed to be given to them? (a) whether there IS a proposal to Import THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tea to meet the domestic demand; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) No Sir. (b) rf so, the details thereof? 203 Written AnswelS MAY 11, 1990 Written Answwfs 204

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the action taken/proposed to provide MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- a more lucrative package of incentives at six ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) There is no EPZs? proposal ~ present to import tea to meet the domestic demand. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE A~lD TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (b) Does not arise. (a) Yes, Sir.

Securities Exchange Board of India (b) and (c). An exercise has been undertaken to review the working of the Export 8287. SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: Will Processing Zon9s with a view to stirnuiate the FINANCE MINISTERbe pleased to state: export~.

(a) whether Govemment propose to (Ttanslation] bring forward a legislation to give teeth to the Securities Exchange Board of India (SEBI) Hud Offtce of Small...... ,... Devel- and announce norms tor the operations of financial institutions: ...... 8290. SHRISANTOSHKUMARGANG- (b) if so, when the legislation is likely to WAR: Will the Minister of OF FINANCE be be given effect to: 2nd pktased to state:

(c) the salient features thereof? (a) whether orders had been issued to open the Head Office of Small Industries THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN Ti-iE Development Bank in Lucknow; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (ANIL SHASTRI): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the progress made in this rt3gard: (b) and (c). The necessary sters fOi introducing the legislat:on are underway .?nd (c) whether any date was fixed earlierto it is intended to implement it whel1 passed. opan the said Head Office and if so, the the ~easons fOi not opening this Hearl OOice Export Incentives by EPZ there;

8289. SHRI VASANT SATHE: (d) whether this office is being shifted SHRI M.M. PALLAM RAJU: now from Lucknow: and

Will the MInister of COMMERCE be (e) if so, the reasons therefor? pleased to state' THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether the ane'ltlOn of Govern- MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- ment has been drawn to the news-itAm TRI): (a) to (c). Small Industries Develoo- appearing in Hindustan Times dated 4 hpril. ment Bank of India (SIOBI) has started its 1990 under the caption uEPZs must provide operations with effect from 2nd of April, 1990 better iocentives": from its various offices located all over the country. As regards the Head Office of the (b) if so, the reacticn of the ("'~vernment new Bank of the following provisions exists thereto: and in the SIDBI Act: 205 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsWEHS 206

-rhe Head Office of the Small Indus- (a) whether Government are aware that tnes Bank shall be at lucknow or at T.V. vl9wers in Midnapore District of West such place as the Central Government Bengal are unable to receive the local Ben- may by Not~icatlOn specrfy". gali telecasts from Calcutta and can receive only the National Programmes; (d, and (e). The Government IS not proposing to change the locatIOn of the Head (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Office of SIOBI from lucknow. (c) the corrective measures proposed to [English] betaken?

Intamal Debt Trap THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF 8291 SHRI CHITTA BASU wIn the PARLlAMENTAR'r AFFAIRS (SHRI P. MinIster of FINANCE be oIeased to state UPENDRA): (a) to (c). Linkage of low power transmitters (lPTs) through mICrowave cir- (a) whether It IS a fact that th& States curts to the respective State Capital Kendras have been caught In the rnternal debt trap, for relay of RegIonal services IS not considered cost-effective. low Power transmitters (b) If so, the reasons the.efor, and (lPTs) at Kharagpur and Midnipur. like others lPTs in the State, therefore, relay pro- (c) the '3teps taken to remedy the situ- grammes fro;n Doordarshan Kendra, Deihi atIon? vIa ~ateillte.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE [Trans/atlon] MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) to (c) State Governments have Ceiling on Public Deposits taken by been meetIng theIr debt repayment liabIlity Housing loa" Financing Institutions mainly out of fresh borrOWings The Ninth Fiflance CommIssion has revIewed the debt 8293. SHRIMATI USHA VERMA: Will poSItIon of the States as on 31.3 1989 and the MInister of FINANCE be pleased to state: recomm~nded a numbe, of debts reltef measures Including re-scheduling/wrltlng off of certal!" loans outstandIng against the State (a) whether the ceiling on'J)ubfic depos- Govemmepts, elongatIon of the maturity ItS taken by the housing loan finanCing insti- penod offuture Central loans fer State Plans, tutIOns has been fixed lor the iirst time from etc. ActIOn taken by the Government on the 1 Aprtl, 1S89 under non-banklng directives recommendatIons of the CommIssIOn has ISSUed by the Reserve BanI< of India: been IndICated In the e)(planatory memorandum whICh has already been laltj on the (b) if so, the reaSO!1S 1herefor; Table of the House along with tho report of the Commlssloll (c) whether financial safety has not been provided to hOUSing loan finanCing institu- T.V. Viewers in Midnapore District of tIOns under the NatIonal HoUSIng Bal1k Ad, West 8engal 1987; and 8292. SHRIINDRAJITGUPTA W,ll the MinIster of INrORMATlON AND BROAD- Cd) If so, the actIOn propcsed to be taken CASTING be pleased to state: by Government to remove the ceiling limit? 207 Written Answers MAY 11,1990

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE was paid to the pensioners of the Bank d MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- Baghelkhand upto December, 1988 and TRI): (a) to (d) Reserve Bank of india (RBI) thereafter mlntmum pensIOn was reduced to has reported that the ceiling on quantum of the amount appIteable to the pensioners of publIC deposits to be accepted by HOUSing the State Government of Madhya Pradesh; Finance Companies (HFCs) was ftxed with and effect from Apnl 1. 1989 The fIXation of ceiling was considered necessary as public (d) If so, the reasons therefor? deposits are unsecured and as such re- stncted access was not considered deSir- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE able. The instructions Issued by NatIOnal MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- HOUSing Bank (NHB) on June 26. 1989 are TRI): (a)to (d) InformatIOn IS being collected similar to those of RBI. contalntng regulatory and to the extent available Will be laid on the provISIOn relating to celhng on quantum of Table of the House deposits. pertod. maximum Interest rate. brokerage payable maIntenance of hqurcl Influx of Tourists in Southern Part assets. comphance of advertisement rules. submiSSIOn of returns and balance sheets 8295 SHRI VAMANAAO MAHADIK These regulatory measures are Intended to Will the Mlntster of TOURISM be pleased to safeguard the Interest of depositors Re- state moval of the celhng on pubilCdepoSlts would not be prudent as unhmlted. unsecured public (a) whether It IS a fact that due to deposits could put these compantes Into a continuous disturbances In the Northern and finanCial bind North-Eastern region In the country. there IS Influx of the domestIC and foretgn tounsts to [Eng/Ish] Southern and other parts of the country,

Pension to Employees of Erstwhile (b) If so, the measures taken by Govern- Bank of Baghelkhand ment to meet the mflux In the Southern India and the special arrangements made for the 8294 SHAI SUKHENDRA SINGH Will proVISIOn of baSIC amenrtles tor the tourISts the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state there. and

(a) whether the Bank of Baghelkhand. (c) whether thiS changed trend Will have and undertaking of erstwhile Rewa State any effect on the foretgn exchange earnings Government (now In Madhya Pradesh), af- and If so, the extert thereof? ter abolitIOn of the State, was wholly owned by UnIOn Government and thus Its assets. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE hablllttes and obhgatlOns rested with UnIOn MIN IS TRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Government AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN'S- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAl (b) wh&ther the Central Government MALIK) (a) There IS a growth In the domes- CIV" pensIOn rules were applicable to the tiC and foreign tounst traffIC to Southem penSIOners of the Bank of Baghelkhad after States It IS due to the combined effect of retirement. several factors, Including promotIOnal efforts for Southern parts of the country. (c) whether minimum pensIOn as appltcable to Central Govemment pensIOners (b) Improvement of tounsm infrastruc- 209 Written Answers VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 210 ture is pnmanly the responsibility of the State (a) whether the PublIC Financial Institu- Governments The Central Government tions namely the Industrial Finance Corpora- provide flnanaal assistance on the basIs of tion of India, the Industnal Development specifIC proposals received from the States Bank of India, the Life Insurance Corpora- subject to their ment, Inter-se prlonty and tion, the Unit Trust of India, Nationalised Rallability of funds banks etc. have more than fifty per cent shares In Modi Rubber Ltd , Modlpuram, (c) No, Sir (b) d so, the reasons for allOWing the Utilisation of Staff cars for Economy In private management to run the administra- Petrol tion of the Company, and

8296 SHRI Y S RAJA SEKHAR (c) the measures taken or proposed to REDDY Will the MInister of FINANCE be be taken by Government to ensure non- pleased to state utilisation of funds by the rranagement of the Company to the disadvantage of the finan- (a) whether any assessment has been Cial institutIOns? made of the monthly consumptIOn of petrol by the staff cars of the MInistries THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANllSHAS- (b) If so, the details thereof dunng the TRI) (a) and (b) It has been reported by last one year. and Industrial Finance Corporation of India (IFCI) that finanCial InstitUtions namely Industrial (c) the efforts being made by Govern- Development Bank of India, Industrial FI- ment to utlhse these care; for the specific nance Corporation of India, Life Insurance purpose they are meant for as a economy Corporation, Unit Trust of India and the na- measure? tionalised banks together hold nearly 51 percent of the total share capital of Modi Rubber ltd, (MRL) As a matter of practice THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and conventIOn, the management of such MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- industrial concerns are generally vested with TRI) (a) No, SII the ongmal promoters holding reasonable stake In the share capltal<>f such concerns (b) Does not anse (c) To ensure proper finanCial and other corporate diSCipline Company's Board, whICh (c) The use of Staff Cars In Govern ment has an Independent Chairman, has been Departments IS governed by the Staff Car constituted With adequate InstitutIOnal rep- Rules In addition, whenever required, fur- resentation on 11. In addition, there IS a ther InstructIOns are ISSUed to achieve ut- management Commrttee with an mdepend- most economy and save wasteful expendi- ent Chairman and institutional nommees on ture on the use of Staff Cars It There IS also an Audit sub-Committee of the Board With mdependent directors and Management of Modi Rubber Ltd. institutional nominee IFCI has further reported that an Independent profeSSIOnal 8297. SHRI BANSILAL Will the MiniS- whole-time Finance Director has been ap- ter of FINANCE be pleased to state pointed by MRL 211 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnsW9IS 212

Interest on Loans Steel Export by SAIL

8298 SHRI M BAGA REDDY' Will the 8299. SHRI GANGA CHARAN Mlntster of FINANCE be pleased to state: LODHI: SHRI Y.S. RAJA SEKHAR (a) whether there IS a general principal' REDDY: In regard to loaning and repayment that 'In no case the amount of Interest should ex- Will 1he Minister of STEEL AND MINES ceed the prinCipal', and be pleased to state:

(b) If so, whether Government have (a) the total quantity of steel exported Issued d,recttons to all the State Govern- by the Steel Authority of India limited during ments 8'1d all the nationalised banks to 1989-90 and the foreign exchange earned Implement It? therefrom, (b) the production target of steel by SAIL THE DEPUTY MINSTER IN THE MIN- for 1he year 1990-91, ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI) (a) to (b) CommerCial banks have (c) whether Government are evolving a been Instructed by Reserve Bank of India new polley In order 10 export steel Instead of that Interest on current dues on agrtcultural Iron ore, and advances should not be compounded When (d) If so, the detaIls thereof? crop loans or Instalments under term loans granted for agricultural purposes become THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES overdue banks can add Interest outstanding AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE to the pnnclpal and compound the Interest (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI). (a) The total However, 101al1n1eres1 debited to an account quantity of steel exported by the Steel Au- should not exceed the prtnclpal amount In thority of India Limited dUring 1989-90 and respect of short term advances granted to the foreign exchange earned therefrom IS as small and marginal farmers follows

Year Quantity Value (m '000 tonnes) (In '1s. crores)

2 3

1989-90 1666 115.15

(b) The proauctlon target of saleable Short Term Credit to Punjab steel by SAILfortheyear1990-91IS 7776,000 tonnes 8300. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will the Mlntster of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) and (d) However, the Governmen1 feels that export of value added products (a) the amount of annual grant and the should be encouraged In tuture Instead of amount of short term credit sanctIOned to merely exporting Iron ore Punjab for the year 1990-91; 213 Written AnsMHS VAlSAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answets 214

(b) whether the funds sanctioned 10. (a) whether Orissa Government has Punjab under short term credit and underthe sent proposals for setting up of T.V. trans· annual grantlhave been showing downward m~ion cet*a one at Nowrangpur and trend over the past few years; another .. Malkargire; and

(c) if so, the reasons for the decrease in (b) 110. the tine by which the proposats the allocation; would be implemented?

(d) whether Government d Punjab has THE MWISTEA OF INFORMATION requested Union Government to increase AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF the allocation to Punjab; and PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (e) if so, the action taken by Govern- UPENDRA): (a) Yes, Sir. ment thereon? (b) Whereas three low power (100 W) THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TVtransmittersone each at Koraput, Jeypore MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- and Rayagada and a TV transposer at TAl): (a) to (e). The-commercial banks do not Sunabeda are already functioning in Kora- give grants or loans to State Governments. put district of Orissa, TV service in the district In view of the special circumstances obtain- is expected to be strengthened when the ing in Punjab, it had been decided to give high power (10KW) TV transmitter under certain concessions in the matter of grant of implementation at Bhawanipatna is com- bank credit to the borrowers in the State. The missioned into service. Extension of TV concession include adhoc increase in credit service to the remaining uncovered parts of upto 15%, reduction in the margin so that it Koraput district depends upon the availabil- does not exceed 15%, extension in the pe- ity of adequate resources for this purpose riod of release of bills, reschedulement of under the Eighth Plan. repayment of term loan instalments byex- tending period upto one year in deserving Internal Debt cases and reduction of 50% in service charges on demand draft, pay orders, bank- 8302. SHRI ANBARASU ERA: WiH the ers cheques and other remittances. As per Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: the latest information available the total increase in limits avaHed by units in Punjab (a) the total amount of internal debt during the period from June 1, 1986 to owned by Union Government as on 31 st December 31, 1989 amounted to Rs. 190.60 March, 1990; and crores. This is in addition to the limits granted between 1.6.1985 to 31st May, 1986 to the (b) the steps proposed to be taken to e~ent of As. 115.43 crores. The period of reduce the debt burden? concessions granted to borrowers in Punjab has been extended upto 31 st March, 1991. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTAYOfANANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- Setting up of a T.V. Transmission rnl): (a) The total internal debt and other Centre In Nowrangpur and llalkarglr. internalliabililies of the Central government In Orissa outstanding at the end of 31 st march, 1990 is estimated to amount to As. 238096 crores. 8301. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Minister of INFORMAnoN AND BROAD- (b) It' is always the endeavour of the CASTING be pleased to state: government to keep the debt liability within 215 Written AnsW91S MAY 11, 1990 ~AnsMHS 216

prudent limits and within its debt servicing at Saharsa being of a radiating powerof 100 capacity. Government is also taking steps to ~ operating in UHF Band_ with a normal increase revenue receipts and curtailing Is service range of about 15 Kms, is not able to , total expenditure both on Non-Pian and Plan cater to the entire district which is of a com- accounts so as to minimise .the need for paratively larger area. borrowings.

[Trans/alion ] (b) to (d). There is at present no approved scheme to augment the power of the Raising of T.V. Transmission Range of transmitter at Saharsa. Whereas it is the Saharsa District, Bihar constant endeavour of Doordarshan to maximize TV coverage in the country, exten- 8303. SHRI SURYA NARAYAN sion of TV service to the uncovered parts of YADAV: Will the Minister of INFORMATION Saharsa district, as also to other similarly AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: placed areas of the country, depends upon aVailability of resources for the future plans (a) whe~her the programmes of Door- of TV expansion. darshan Kendra in Saharsa district of Bihar cannot be seen In the entire district; {Eng/ish]

(b) if so, whether Government propose Enactment of President's Ad to increase transmission range of this Ken- dra: 8304. SHRI M. SELVARASU: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased (c) if so, whether the increased trans- to state the details of President's Acts en- mission range would cover the entire district; acted so far, Statewise and year-wise? and

(d) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): A Statement AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF containing details of the President's Acts PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. enacted so far, state-wise and year-wise, is UPENDRA): (a) Yes, Sir. The TV transmitter given below.

STATEMENT

SINo. Name of the States Year of Enacttn8nt No of President's Act

2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 1954 9

1955 4

1973 6

2. Assam 1980 6 217 wntsn AnSW9l'S VAISAKHA 21. 1912 (SAKA) Writtsn AnSWBIS 218

SINo. Name of the Stat9s Y9ardE~ No of President's Act

1 2 3 4

1981 2

1982 1

1983 1

3. Bihar 1968

1969 7

1970 13

4. GUJarat 1971 5

1974 12

1975

1976 15

5. Haryana 1967 9

1968

6. Karnataka 1971 5

1972

7. Kerala 1957 9

1960 2

1964 2

1965 7

1966

1967 5

8. Manipur 1973 1

1974 1 219 ~rittenAns~ MAY11,1990 ~AnsMHS 220

SI No. Name of the States Year d Enactment No 01 President's Act

2 3 4

9. Nagaland 1976 1

10. Orissa 1961 5

1973 6

1974 3

11. PEPSU 1953 8

1954 6

12. Punjab 1951 9

1952 6

1966 2

1968

1971 4

1984 3

1985 4

1987 4

1988 5

1989 5

1990 3

13. Tamil Nadu 1976 30

19n 9

1988 8

14. T ravancore-Cochin 1956 11 221 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 222

SiNo. Name of the States Year of Enactment No of President's Act

1 2 3 4

15. Uttar Pradesh 1968 15

1969 16

1973 9

16. West Bengal 1968 19

1969

1970 7

1971 12

1972 2

Investment of UTI Funds (b) Does not arise.

8305. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: (c) There is no proposal to modify the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to present strategy of investment, as Unit Trust state: of India is able to deploy their funds and give returns to the investors. (a) whether the UnitTrust of India (UTI) IS faced with a remarkable problem of ex- [ Translation] cess cash as a result of the mvestment avenues adopted during last year (1989-90), Modernisation of Bokaro Steel PI?.,t as reported in the 'Economic Times' of March 28,1990: 8306. SHAI PIYUS TIAAKY: Will the (b) if so. the precise magnitude and Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased dimensions of the problem: and to state:

(c) the strategy proposed to be adopted for investment of the UTI funds and the (a) whether the modernisation scheme modifications. if any. contemplate therem so of Bokaro Steel Plant is being postponed; as the obtain the maximum return while securing the national interest? (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) the steps taken/proposed to be MINISTAYOF FINANCE (SHAI ANll SHAS- taken for early implementation of the mod- TAl): (a) No, Sir. ernisation programme of SSP? 223 Written Answers MAY 11,1990

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (a) whetherGovemment are aware that AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE a large number of Scheduled Castes who (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) No, Sir. have availed loans under Integrated Rural Development Programme (IROP) ara in great (b) Does not arise. debts and arrears, and are unable 10 repay the loan amounts; and (c) The investment proposal for asp modernisation programme is under consid- (b) if so, the action Govemment pr0- eration of Government and it will be imple- pose to take to he~ them? mented after full appraisal. THE DEPUlY MINISTER IN THE [English] MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIl SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). The represent data reporting system does not generate the informa- Debt Relief to Scheduled Castes tion in the manner asked for. However the Scheduled Castes borrowers under the Inte- 8307. SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Will the grated Rural Development Programme Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (IRDP) availed credit assistance as under:

(Rs. in CIOI9S)

Year Total credit mobilised Credit flow to Scheduled Caste borrowers

2 3

1985-86 730.16 210_01

1986-87 1014.88 295.56

1987-88 1175.35 340.81

1988-89 1231.12 362.29

1989-90 722.29@ 224.14@

@ Figures upto December '989. Mortality Rate of Employees of c.rtral Bank of india The debt relief scheme announced bv the Government recently for farmers, arti- 8308. SHRI RAM NAIK: WiH the Minis- sans and weavers who have taken loans ter of FINANCE be pleased to state upto Rs. 10,000 will also cover eligible SC borrowers and the scheme would cover all (a) whether the mortality rate in case of overdues as on 2.10.1989 including short the Central Bank of India employees is lower term as well as term loans. than the mortality rata of tha employees of 225 WrNten Answers VAISAKHA 21, t912 (SAKA) Written AnSMHS 226 the Reserve Bank of India, the General In- Employees' Congress seeking the same surance Corporation, the life Insurance rates as given to the employees of Reserve Corporation and the Unit Trust of India; Bank of India etc. As mentioned above, the group insurance premium rate depend on (b) if so, the mortality rates in each of many factors besides the simple mortality the above institutio~; rate. The question of taking a decision on the basis of only the mortality rate of employees (c) the rate of premium of group insur- of Central Bank of India does not. therefore, ance in respect of the employees of each of arise. The group insurance rate quoted to these institutions; any institution is not considered final for all time to come. Based on the actual experi- (d) whether he has received any ence and the observed trends, lIC reviews memorandum from the Central bank Em- the premium rates on renewal dates periodi- ployees' Union about discrepancy in above caHy. rates: and Income Tax Realisation From Officials (e) whether Government propose to of I.T.D.C. revise the rates in proportion to the mortality rates? 8309. SHAI RAM SAJIWAN: WHI the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- (a) whether the perquisites such as TRI): (a)to (c). It is difficultto say whether the proviSIOn of free residential accommoda- mortality rate of employees of one institution, Chauffeur driven car, entertainment tions is lower or higher than that of another allowance etc. are all subject to income tax: institutions since it does not depend on a single factor. While determining the Group (b) whether Government have received Term Assurance rates, life Insurance Cor- any representation for valuation and impos- poration of India (L1C) has to take into con- ing taxes on extra-ordinary perquisites en- sideration the trend in the crude mortality joyed by some of the ITDC offICials; and rate, the age distribution of employees at a given point of time and also the number of (c) if so, the action taken or proposed to employees in different categories. Besides be taken by Government in this regard? these, the expense faclor inherent in servicing of Group Insurance Schemes is taken THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE into consideration as the same can vary from MINISTR~ OF FINANCE; (SHRI ANIL SHAS- one institution to another. The rate of group TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. insurance premium charged by lie in re- (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The representation spect of employees of Reserve Bank of has been considered in making enquiries in India, General Insurance Corporafon of India, this regard. Unit Trust of India, and its own employees is Rs. 2.5. per month per Rs. 10,0001-- sum [ Translation] assured as against Rs. 3.5. per month per Rs. 10,OOO/-sum assured in the case of New Commerce Policy emJSloyees of Central Bank of India. 8310. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI: (d) and (e). LlC had received a repre- Wi" the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased sentation from the An India Central Bank to state: MAY 11,1990 Wnlten AnSMHS 228

(a> whether a draft of new commerce [Engish) policy IS under consideratIOn of Govern- ment:and TV Centres In Hlmachlll Pradesh

(b) the time by whICh It IS likely to be 8312. SHRI K.D. SUlTANPURI: Will formulated? the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a> the number of T.V. cantresandT.V. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- relay stations located in HImachal Pradesh ANGll SHREEDHARAN) (a) No, Sir. at present;

(b) QuestIOn does not anse (b) whether any more T.V. centres and T. V. relay statIOns have been sandlOned for Coverage of Districts of U.P. by Door- the State. darshan (c) If so, the details thereof,

8311. SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD (d) whether Government propose to set YADAV. Will the MInister of INFORMATION up a T V tower at Khara Pathar In Simla AND BROADCASTING be pleased state distrICt: and

(a) whether all the dlStncts In Uttar (e) the time by whICh these are likely to Pradesh are covered by the TelevISIOn trans- be set up? miSSIOn facility. THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (b) If not, thedlstncts whl::h are yet to be PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. covered: and UPENDRA). (a) One high power (10 KW), SIX low power (100 W), 5 very low power tc) the time by whICh these dlStncts are (2x10W) TV transmitters and a TV trans- likely to be covered? poser are, at present functlOntng In Hima- chalPradesh

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION (b) to (e). A TV Studio Centre wrth a high AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF power (1 KW) transmitter at Shlmla and a TV PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P transposer at R8jgarh are under Implemen- UPENDRA). (a) to (c). All the dlStncts (1981 tatIOn In Himachal Pradesh, as spiU-over Census ) In Uttar Pradesh are, at present, schemes of the Seventh Pian. While the covered by TV servJCe wholly or partially On latter proJ8d is envIsaged to be commis- commISsIOning of the high power (10 KW) sIOned into I8I'Vice during the current fman- transmitter at Baredly low power (100 W) eta! year it.... , the installation of the Studio transmitter at Handwar. very bwpower (1 OW) Centre alollgwith the high power TV trans- transmitter at Munslan and transposers at mitter at Shimla is expected to be complete Mussoone and Churk scheduled dunng the dunng 1992-93. Besides. Ooordarshan's current fInancial year (1990-91). TV servICe Annual Plan for 1990-91 also provides for IS expected to Improve further In some dIS- establishment of a number of additional TV trICts of Uttar Pradesh transmitters, the locatIOns of which depends VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Wntfgn AnSMHS 230

upon the inter-sa priority for extension of TV (English) service in uncovered parts of the country. T.V. SerIaI"SWord of npu Sulan- (',."...,.",] 8314. PROF. K-V. THOMAS: SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE Setting up of T.V. Relay Cent.... at PATIl: Bheronch and Kawadla Colony In Gujarat Will the Ministarcl INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased state:

8313. SHAI CHANDUBHAI (a) the recommendations of K.R. Mal- DESHMUKH: Will th9 Minister of INFORMA- kani on the Television Serial ·Sword of Tipu TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased Sultan-; state: (b) whether these recommendations have been CECepted by Government; (a) whether television relay centres have been set up at Bharonch and Kewadia (c) if so, the details thereof: and Colony in Gujarat; (d) the time by which the serial would be telecast by Doordarshan? (b) whether the entire Bharonch district has not been benefited from this centre due THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION to its low capacity; and AND BAOADCASTINGAND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) to (d). The requisite infor- (c) if so. the steps propose to be taken mation is given below in the statement. by Government to increase the capacity of this centre? STATEMENT

Shri K.A. Makani has been of the view THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION that there is nothing obiedionable either in AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF the historical novel-The Sword of TipU Sul- PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. tan" on which the serial is based or in the UPENORA): (a) to (c). Whereas three low eight episodes made available to him for power (100 W) TV transmitters are function- preview. He has. in fact. felt that the way the ing at present, one each at Bharuch, Kevadia life of TipU Sultan has been depictad-for Colony and Dediapada. in Bharuch District. example, young Tipu attributing his marks- the high power (10 KW) TV transmitter at manship to the practice of Yoga-it can only Ahemabad also provides service to some promote national integration. He has, how- parts of this district. h is the constant endeav- ever. suggested the following modifications: our of the Govemment to provide TV service to the remaining uncovered parts of the Each episode of the serial be district as expeditiously as possible, depend- appropriately prefaced to indi- ing upon the availability of funds for this cate that the serial is based on purpose. the novel "The Sword of TIpU 231 Written AnswelS MAY 11, 1990 Wrilten AnS_1S 232

Sultan- and not on history as ala. as a spiII-aver scheme of the Seventh much and that it highlights TIpU's Plan. This project is, however, expected to herioc fight against the British be completed during 1992-93. Besides, and does not deal with his con- Doordarshan's AMual Plan for 1990-91 also troversial role in Coorg and Ker- includes the establishment of a number of ala; additional TV transmitters, the locations of which depends upon inter-se priority for All the derogatory references to extension 01 TV service in uncovered parts Samundiri «Zamorin), the then of the country. ruler of Calicut, contained in the book should be kept out of the (c) Besides the low power TV transmit- serial: and ter functioning at Chenganacherry, parts of Kottayam distrid of Kerala receive Tv serv- The shapeless mapof India which ice from the high power TV transmitter at serves as the introduction to each Cochin. It is the endeavour of Government to episode should either be made further improve TV service in the district accurate or edited out. subject to future availability of resource for this purpose. An these modifications have been accepted by the Government. The serial is tentatively Programmes in Doordarshan Kendra of scheduled to be telecast shortly subject to Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh final re-preview. 8316. SHRt BASAVAPUNNAIAH Setting up of New T.V. Relay Centres In SINGAM: Will the Minister of INFORMA- Kerala TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased state: 8315. SHRIRAMESHCHENNITHALA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (a) whether Government are aware of BROADCASTING be pleased state: the frequent failures and poor standards of programmes in Doordarshan Kendra of (a) whether there is any proposal to Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh; start new T.V. relay centres in Kerala in the current financial year; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and

(b) if so. the names of those centres: (c) the steps being taken to improve the and performance of Doordarshan Kendra, Hyderabad? Cc) whether there is any proposal for setting up of a relay centre in Kottayam THE MINISTER OF INFORMATtON district, Kerala? AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION UPENDRA): (a) to (c). "has a\ways been AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF the endeavour of Doordarshan, including PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Doordarshan Kendra, Hyderabad, to pro- UPENDRA): (a) and (b). Replacement of the duce and telecast good qualily programmes. low power (100 W) TV transmitter function- As per the Audience Research of the Ken- ing at Calicut by a high power (10 KW) TV dra, 60% of the viewing popu\ation have transmitter is under implementation in Ker- appreciated the programmes telecast by the 233 Written AnSMHS VAISAKHA21. 1912 (SAKA)

Kendra. However, improvement in the pr0- bepleasadtostatethenamesofthepenons grammes is a continuous process. The holding offic8s of the President and the VICe- Kendra has r~ntly introduced some new President d Essem Coated steel limited programmes and have also brought in new during lheyears 1987-88, 1988-89and 1989- format. The Programme .Advisory Commit- 90? tee attached to the Kendra and viewers' letters guide the Kendra to bring in improve- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES ment in the programmes. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMr): As per the Essem Coated Steel LTO. information provided by Jammu & Kashmir Stale Industrial Development Corporation, 8317. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- the foIowing persons were holding the post JEE: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES of President and VICe President since 1987:

1. Mr. Sharat Kumar, President 10.2.88 to 5.8.88 (The post of has not been filled up subsequently)

2. Mr. P.K. Sikka, Executive 1.5.88 to date. Vice President

3. Mr. A.K. Jaiswal, Vice President (Operation) 1.5.88 to 15.10.89 (The post has not been fin,d up subsequently)

4. Mr.P.K. Ahluwalia Vice President 1.5.88 to 17.9.88 (The post has not been filled up subsequently)

World Bank Aid to Kerala regarding those projects?

8318. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state MINISTRYOFANANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- TAl): (a) to (c). The details d on-going (a) the number of on-going projects in project in KeraJa with Wortd Bank assistance Kera'a with World Bank group assistance; are furnished in the Statement below.

(b) the projects in Kerala for which the World Bank assistance of $ 260.00 World Bank group assistance has been milion for a multi-State Technical Education sought for and committed so far; and project mvering 8 State has been negotiated with the Bank during the 6 to 12 March, Cc) the action taken by Government 1990. Kerala is one d the participating States. 235 Written AnsW91S MAY 11,1990 Written AnStWHS 236

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Sail Credit working without a Regional Director/Assis- tant Directors during the last five months; 8319. SI-{RIPURNACHANDRAMAlIK: and Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) if so, the time by which these vacant posts are likely to be filled? (a) the total amount of credit given by the Steel Authority of India limited to cus- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tomers (excluding overseas buyers) during MINISmYOFPARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS the last three years; and AND MINISTER OF THE STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA (b) the total quantity of iron and steel PAL MALIK): (a) and (b). The posting-order sold by Steel Authorrty of India limrted of Regional Director, Madras have been (excluding overseas buyers) during the said issued and the incumbent is likely to join at period? Government of India Tourist Office, Madras shortly. There has always been an Assistant THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Director in position. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The total [ Translation] amount 01 credit given by the Central Mar- keting Organisation of Steel Authority of Malanjkhand Copper Project India Ltd., (excluding liSCO) to rts domestic customers during the last three years works 8321. SHRI MOHANLAL JHIKRAM: out to approximately to Rs. 1256 crores. Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) The total quantity of iron and mild steel sold by SAil (excluding liSCO) to (a) the name of authority which is con- domestic customers during the last three trolling 'Malanjkhand Copper Project' and its years is as follows: organisational set up;

Material (Oty. in lakh tonnes) (b) the number of employees skilted and unskilled working there category-wise; (i) PIg Iron 25.85 approx Imately (c) whether the quota of SCs and STs have also been filled up as per the pre- (ii) Saleable steel 174.54 scribed roaster and if not, the reasons there- approx imately for: and

Appointment of Director at Regional (d) the measures taken to fill up the office, Madras vacant posts?

8320. SHRI B. RAJARAVI VARMA: THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE state: (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) MaJajkhand Copper Project (MeP) in Balaghat District of (a) whether UnIOn Government are Madhya Pradesh is one of the operating aware that the Regional Office of Govern- units of Mis. Hin<:lustan Copper Limited, a ment of India Tourism Office at Madras is public sector undertaking under the Oepart- MAY 11.1990 ment of Mines. The Company has its Regis- tor who reports dirad to Chairman-cum- tered 0Ifice at Calcutta. and is headed by a Managing Diractor. Chainnan-cum-Managing Oirec1or who is ~) The number of workers category- assisted by three other whoIe-time Direc- wise employed at MCP are indicated be- tors.. yep is headed by an Executive Direc- Iow:-

1. Managerial and Supervisory 224

2. Clerical 117

3. SkiHed 817

4. Unskilled 742

Total 1900

(c) The quote for Scheduled Castes! dried fish is available and can be exported? Scheduled Tribes at MeP have been filled up in Groups 'B', 'C' and 'D' posts as per the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE prescribed roaster. There is no back-log in MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- these.categories. As regards Group 'A' posts, ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) Total quantity recruitment is done by the Head Office for of export of dried fish though Bombay Port the Company as a whole with no back-log for during the last three years were: these categories of employees also. Period Quantity in tonnes Cd) Does not arise. 1 2

[Eng/ish) 1987 622

Export of Fish from Bombay Port 1988 566

1989 52 8322. SHRI G.M. BANAlWALLA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to (Source; MPEDA. Cochin) stale: (b) and (c). Export of dried fish through Bombay Port in 1976. 1977. and 1978 (a) the total quantity of different types of were:- dried fishes exported from Bombay port during the last three years; Period Quantity in tonnes

(b) whether the exports have fallen as 2 compared to exports in 1976, 19n and 1978: 1976 22 1977 320 (cl if so, the reasons therefor: and 1978 2086 (d) whether Government propose to set up drying yards in ports where the bulk of (Source: MPEDA, Cochin) 241 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 24~

Dried fish export in 1989 recorded a (Engish) steep fall whICh was mainly due to poor landings of commercial species of fish and Doordarahan Programmes In Palghat, unsteady market conditions prevaihng in Sri Trichur Malappuram Calicut and lanka, which is the single largest market for Kasaragode this item. 8324. SHRI K. MURALEEDHARAN: (d) The Manne Products Export Devel- Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND opment Authorrty (MPEDA) has no proposal BROADCASTING be pleased state: at present to set updryJJlg yards. It has set up a dry fish storage at T utlCOrin. (a) whether Government are aware that Tnvandrum Doordarshan does not give any ( TranslatIon] Importance to programmes of Pafghat. Tnchur, Malappuram Cahcut, Cananore, and Kasaragode districts as compared to pro- Development of Tourist Centres in gramme from Ernakulam to Tnvandrum, Madhya Pradesh . (b) Jf so, the details thereof, and 8323. SHRI CHHABIRAM ARGAL Will the MInister 01 TOURISM be pleased to state (c) the steps taken by Government to give equal Importance 10 programmes of Southern part of Kerala In Ooordarshan? (a) whether there IS any scheme under consideration of Union Government for the THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION development of tounst centres In Madhya AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF Pradesh dUring the Eighth Five Year Plan. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P UPENDRA)· (a) to (c). It has always been (b) If so. the details thereof. endeavour of Doordarshan Kendra, Tnvan- drum to cover all the districts of Kerala Y-Ith- (c) the extent of amount propose-d to be out any diSCrimination, keeping In view the spent thereon. and availability of equipment and manpower DUring 1sf and 15th Aplll, 1990, for example, (d) the time by which development as many as 20 events were covered In the works of these tourrst-centres are Irkely to be dIstrICts of Palghat, Tnchur, Calfcut, Wynad, started? etc

[ Transla1lon] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF THE STATE IN THE Amount Incurred on Development of MINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SA TV A Tourist Spots in Bihar PAL MALIK): (a) to (d) the Etghth Five Year Plan has not yet been formulated However, 8325. SHRIRAMESHWARPRASAD: the Mintstry of TOUrism extends fmanclal SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: assistance to the State Governments for SHRI JORAWAR RAM: strengthening of tOUrist Infrastructure based on specifIC proposals, thelf merits, availabil- Will the MinIster 01 TOURISM be pleased ity of funds and Inter-se priorities to state: 243 Written Answets MAY 11.1990 Written AnSW91S 244

(a~ the amount proposed to be incurred States; and during 1990-91 for the development of tourist spots in Bihar: (d) if no, the steps proposed to be taken by Government to improve the position? (b) the names of tourist spots in Bihar proposed to be developed under this plan; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) to (d)_ The Industrial Development (c) the details of tourist spots in Buxar Bank of India (lOBI) has reported that cumu- and Palamu, their development schemes lative ~irect finance disbursed by them to and target for completion of development? large industries in Punjab and the total all over India as at March 31. 1990 was Rs_ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 314.50 crores and Rs. 9963.20 crores re- MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS spectively. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL Looking at the population of the country MALIK): (a) and (b). Development of tourism and that of Punjab. lOBI's direct financial is primarily the responsibility of the State assistance to large industries in Punjab Governments. However, the Central Depart- compares favourably with assistance on all ment of Tourism extends financial assis- India basis. tance on specific schemes based on their merits. availability of funds and inter-se pri- Purchase and Export Price by MlTCO orities. Detailed schemes for the year 1990- 91 are yet to be formulated and submitted by 8327. SHRI R.L.P. VERMA: Will the tl'le State Government. Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state:

(e) There is no proposal presently under (a) the difference in purchase and export the conSIderation of the Central Department price of mica by MITCO; of Tourism for development of tourist spots In Buxar and Palamu. (b) the labour employment in MITCO; and [English] (c) the percentage of share taken by lOBI Assistance to Large Scale Industry MITCO from orders procured by Private in Punjab Exporters?

8326. BABA SUCHA SINGH: Wilt the THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) The difference in purchase and export (a) the amount of loans advanced in price of mica by MITCO on an average Punjab to large scale industry by the Indus- ranges between 30 and 32%. trial Development Bank of India; (b) ThetotallabouremployedbyMITCO (b) the amount of such advances at all is 916. IndIa level: (c) As per the Canalisation Policy for (e) whether the amount of loans at (a) export of processed mica. export orders are above compares favourably with that to other shared between MITCO and private export- 245 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 246 ers on a 50: 50 basIs. In respect of exports to industry regarding assistance for acquisition GCA countries, however, export orders for of trawlers and related matters. Shipping processed mica excluding mica scrap upto Credrt and Investment Company of India Rs. 10 lacs per fo\elgn buyer pet annum are limited (SCICI) IS also a member of various allowed to be executed by the private export- .committees of Ministry of Food Processing ers without sharing wrth MITCD. Industries which provides a forum for interaction between the SCICI and other con- Assistance to Deep Sea Fishing Indus- cerned departments of Government of India. try SCICI has also constituted a consultative committee which inter-alia has representa- 8328. SHRI D. AMAT: Will the MInister tives of the industry. of FINANCE be pleased to state loan from Switzerland (a) whether the ShipPing Credit and Investment Company of India Limited (SCICI) 8329. DR. DAULATRAO SONWI provides fInancIal assIstance to the deep AHER Will the Minrs!er of FINANCE be sea flshmg Industry. pleased to state·

(b) whether small entrepreneurs are (a) whether the loan granted by Swit- reqUired to VISit Bombay frequently to meet zerland has been utilised fully; the SCICI officials thereby causing great hardship to them. If so, the stage taken! (b) If not, the reasons thereof: and proposed to be taken In this regard and (c) the steps taken to utilise it fully? (c) the action taken/proposed to be taken for regular interactIOn betwE'en the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SCICI and other concerned MlnlstnesJDe- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- partments of Union Government for co-ordl- TRI) (a) to (c). The present Swiss Credit natln9 and better monitoring of development ag reement namely Swiss Mixed Credit 1983 efforts for the deep sea ftshlng Industry? IS for an amount of S.Fr. 100 million. The utilisation upto end of March. 1990WBSS. Fr. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 39 6 million. The entire amount has already MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- been committed to ensure full utilisatIOn. TRI) (a) Yes Sir Criteria for Development of Religious (b) Apart from dealing with entrepre· Places as Tourist Centres neurs at Its head office In Bombay, with a view to avoid Inconvenience to the small 8330. SHRI M.M. PALLAM RAJU: Will entrepreneurs both In terms of cost and time, the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to ShippIng Credit and Investment Company of state: I:--dla Limited (SCICI) has depute ItS officers to VISit the registered office/Administrative 0" C'E' of some fishing compantes for IAterac- (a) the criteria adopted to Identify his- tlon WIth them and for sorting out problems, toncal and religiOUS places for their develop- ;f "''''y ment as tourist centres:

Ie) SCICI has reported that It has been (b) whether Government propose to 11"'t?ract'ng directly With the deep sea fishing develop the historICal temple at Oolleswaram 247 Wntten Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written Answers 248

In East Godavari DistrICt of Andhra Pradesh, [Translatron ] and Steel Yard at Kota (c) If so, the details thereof and If not, the reasons therefor? 8332 DR BENGALI SINGH: Will the MInister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state MIN ISlRYOF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (a) whether the steel yard at Kota TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL (Rajasthan) has been closed, MAliK) (a) Development of historICal and rehglOus places IS pnmarlly the responSibility (b) If so, the reasons therefor; of the State Governments There IS no criteria with the Central Department of TOUrism (c) whether there IS proposal to reopen/ for identificatIOn of such places as tounst set up a steel yard at Kota. and centres (d) If so. when and If not. the reasons (b) and (c) No proposals In thiS regard therefor? has been received from the State Govern- ment THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI) (a) No, Sir Holding Losses of Sugar in S.T.C. (b) to (d) Does not anse 8331 DR KIRODILAL MEENA Will the MI",sterof COMMERCE be pleased to state Exports From Kanpur

8333 SHRI KESHARI LAL Will the (a) whether Imported sugar worth Rs M'nlsterof COMMERCE be pleased to state 18 crores was lost In the form of holding losses at Port Town and S T C s Godown (a) the main products of Kanp.Jr being dUring 1984 to 1987 and exported

(b) If so, action taken against agencies (b) the positIOn of export of leather and responSible for the losses? leather goods among the products being exported,

THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND (c) whether Government propose to set TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU) up an export-onented Industry In rural Kanpur, (a) and (b) As per the audited accounts. STC has Incurred total handling losses at (d) If so, the details thereof, and Port Towns and STC's Godowns to the value of Rs 1 47 era res on Import of sugar dUring (e) If not. the reasons therefor? the f,"anetal years 1984-85 to 1987-88 These are the normal handling and storage losses THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND for a commodity like sugar ThiS loss works TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU). out to 0 08% of sugar handled/stored (a) The maJOr products exported from Kanpur 249 Wntten Answers VAISAKH~ 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 250 arehnlshed leather, leather goods The other ports and to check Unilateral and arbitrary products exported from Kanpur Include cane actIOn through strengthened multllateraJ rules and mooJ artICles, chemICals, apparels, elec- and dISCIplines to govern InternatIOnal trade tronICS and textiles, bght engg products like A number of oral and written submissIOns dIeSel engines, pumps, fasteners, agncul- have been made In the Negotiating Groups turallmplements etc stating our views clearly and cogently, based on sound economIC arguments and reason- (b) The share of leather and leather tng, keeping In mInd our situatIOn as a goods In exports from Kanpur IS estimated to developing country. We have also made a be around 70 per cent The majOr exports number of specifIC proposals whIch reflect COnsist of harness and saddlery Items our Interests and concerns In additIOn, India has been coordinating Its positIOn actively (c) No, Sir wrth other like-minded develOPIng countnes to enlarge support In th9se negotiatIOns and (d) Does not anse we have made jOint submiSSions on a number of Issues In thiS connectIOn India also (e) 'nltlatlve for setting-up Industrial recently hosted a meeting of 18 developing units rests with the private entrepreneurs countries partICipating In the Uruguay Round at New Deihl on 19-20 March, 1990 In the [English] areas of Trade-Related Intellectual Property RlQhts, Trade-Related Investment Measures Trade Negotlatton At Geneva and ServICes, detailed submISSIOns have been made by India These have receIVed 8334 SHRI YADVENDRA DATI Will wide support from other developtng coun- the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to tries and some JOint submiSSIOns have also state been tabled We are hopeful that these negotiations Will result In a balanced out- (a) the steps Government propose to come whICh Will take Into account the Inter- take to safeguard the Interest of the country est of all partiCipants Including those of In the Uruguay round of multilateral trade developtrlQ countries, such as India It IS negotiations at Geneva under the auspices Government's IOtentlOn to continue to par- of the General Agreement on T anffs and ticipate actIvely In the negotlattng process to Trade and ensure that our Interests are fully safe- guarded (b) howGovernmentproposetocounter the Industrlahsed countnes pressure with [Translation) regard to areas of Trade Related Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPs) and Trade Related Evasion of Customs Duty Investment Measures and ServICes? 8335 SHRI RESHAM LAl JANGDE THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND win the Mlntster of FINANCE be pleased to TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU) state (a) and (b) India has adopted a multi-pronged strategy In the context of the Uruguay Round (a) the number of cases of smuggling of Multilateral Trade NegotiatIOns In order to and evasIon of Customs duty detected by safeguard Its Interests IndIa has been par- the Department of Central EXCISe and In- tICIpating actively In the negotIatIOns In order come Tax In 1989 and tl" March, 1990 at to seek Improved market access for Its ex- vanous Seaports, arollnd them or elsewhere 251 Written Answers MAY 11. 1~90 Written Answers 252 and the amount involved in each case; and wholesale and retail price index during the same period; and (b) the number of such cases deteded on Indo-Pak border and the amount involved (c) whether Government havefixed any therein and the details of seized items? target or limit to check inflation and to reduce price-hike? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TRI): (a) and (b). The information is being MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- collected and will be laid on the table of the TRI): (a) The rate of inflation of the basis of House. the average WPI for the first quarter over the average of first quarter of the previous year Inflation Rate works out to 8.2 per cent in 1990 as against 5.5. per cent in 1989. 8336. SHRI JANARDAN TIWARI: Will the Minister of fiNANCE be pleased to state: (b) There is no index for retail prices. However. Consumer Price Index (CPI) for (a) the comparative details of the rate of Industrial Workers which is based on retails inflation between the first quarter of the year prices of good (and services) paid by con- 1989 and the first quarter of the year 1990; sumers, is the nearest &pproximation. Comparative price rise in WPI and CPI for (b) the comparative increase in the the first quarter is given below:

First Ouarter of the Year Price Rise (point to point) (MatCh over December) in

WPI CPI

(1981-82:100) (1990-100)

1989 1.7 No change

1990 2.8 1.1.

(c) tt is not feasible to fix any target or [English] limit to check inflation. However, efforts are being made to check inflation by use of Production of Aluminium foilS instruments available to the Government which include maintaining supplies of es- 8337. SHRI BABUBHAI MEGHJI sential commodities, if necessary through SHAH: Will the Minister of STEEL AND imports, strict fiscal and monitoring disci- MINES be pleased to state: pline including close monitoring of budgetary deficit action against hoarders and black- (a) whether there is shortage of Alumin- marketeers. ium foil in the country; 253 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 254

(b) the number of plants producing AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE aluminium fall, and (SHRI OINESH GOSWAMI)' (a) The IndlQe- nous production of aluminium fOils by and {c) the details of Installed capacity and large meets the IndlQenous demand actual productIOn of aluminium fOil, plant- wise? (b) and (c) Plant wise details of Installed capacity and actual productIOn of aluminium THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES fOils dunng 1989-90 are indicated below:

51 No Untt Installed CapaCIty ProductIon dUring 1989-90

(In tonnes)

2 3 4

IndIan Aluminium 4000 4899 Company Ltd

2 India FOils 4690 5495

3 PG FOil Ltd 3000 1151

4 Sharat Alumlmum 500 187 Company Ltd

5 Annapurna FOils Ltd 3000 NA

6 Synthlko FOils Ltd 720 NA

Import of Jumbo Rolls they are not lICensed.

8338 SHRI P G NARAYANAN Will (d) If 50, the details thereof. and the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to (e) the steps taken to ensure that the state units not holding a licence under 10 & R Act do not Indulge In urauthonsed productIOn by (a) whether the slrttlng and confectlon- any other source? 109 units and the export houses who do not have licences for manufacture of photosen· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sltlve goods from Imported Jumbo rolls are MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- also allowed to Import the Jumbo rolls of ANGIl SHREEDHARAN) (a) to (d) The different categories Import of Jumbo Rolls of varIOus types of (b) If SO, the criteria and details thereof Photo-sensitive material IS allowed under OGL by Actual Users and against additional (c) whether a Unit hcensed for manufac· licences The additional licences do not bear ture of colour paper of a particular quality IS Actual User condition and are freely trans· also eligible to Import Jumbo rolls for which ferable Accordingly t"e reqUIrement of 255 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 having an Industrial Licence for carrying out (a) whether there has been delay in the slittln9/confectionlng activity of Jumbo completion of modemisation of Ourgapur Rolls of Photo-sensitised material is not a Steel Plant and if so, the reasons therefor; pre-requisite while allowing clearance of such goods imported against additional licences. However, the Import made against such (b) whether import cost of equipment licences is also subject to conditions of all has exceeded the cost detailed out in the other relevant Issues, which will become contract; appltcable as and when the imported mate- nails put to use. (c) whether delays have resuhed into (e) The lOR Act contains a number of additional payments to contractors: and provIsions to ensure that unlawful production or sltttlng/confectlonmg of jumbo rolls does not take place and that units not hold- (d) the details of payments given to Ing a licence under the IDR Act do not Birla Technical Services and MIs. Mannes- Indulge In unauthOrised productIOn Section mann Demag of West Germany for each of 24 of the Act provides for lIanous penalties the packages titl30th April. 1990 along with for contravening or attemptmg to contravene the details of progress achieved as per the or abetting the contravention of 5 10 (1), 5. fixed time schedule? 10 (4), 5.11 :1), 5.11 (A). 5.13 (1), S. 29 B (2). S. 29 (B) (2A), S 29 (B) (2D), S. 29 (8) (2F). S 298 (2E), S 16. S. 18 B (3). S. 18G THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES or any rule contravention of whICh IS punish- AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE able under the section. Section 24A of the (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) to (c). No. Act also provides for penalties for false state- Sir. ments

Modernisation of D.S.P. (d) The package-wise details of payment made to M.s. Birla Technical Services 8339 SHRI M V CHANDRASHEKARA (BTS) and M.s Mannesmann Demag Hut- MURTHY Will the Minister of STEEL AND tenteknik (MDH) of West Germany till r"UNES be plea~ed to state 30.4 1990 15 as Jllder:

$/ No Name of Package Payment made to Payment made to Jys. BTS Mis. MDH

I .5. in crates) (DM in crares)

2 3 4

Ram Matenal Handling 45.87 OM 1.25

2 Sinter Plant 7.15

3 Blast Furnace 18.29 OM 1.19

4. BasIC Oxygen Furnace 27.95 OM 11.84

Total 99.26 ers. DM14.28 Crs. 257 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Wnlt8IJ AnswetS 258

The progress made so far by both the Setting up of Manufacturing Units parties tor all the above packages are as per Abroad by Export... agreed scheduled., 8341. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA Government Expenditure NARASIMHA RAJA WAOIYAR: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: 8340. SHAI SAIKANTHA DAITA NARASIMHA RAJA (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India WADIYAR: has suggested Indian exporters to set up SHAI PARASRAM BHARD- manufacturing bases abroad; WAJ: SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD (b) if so, the rationale behind this sug- VARMA: gestion:

Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (c) whether Government propose to to state: help Indian exporters in setting up manufacturing units in other countries; and (a) whether his Ministry has taken deci- sIOn to undertake monthly checks to ensure (d) if so, the details thereof? that Government expenditure remains under control: THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (b) whether it would be done regularly (a) No, Sir. and systematICally throughout the current Financial Year: (b) Does not arise.

(c) whether the expenditure on estab- (c) and (d). Government approves pro- lishments day-to-day administratIOn etc. posals tor setting up of manufacturing units wouid be reduced MInistry-wise: and abroad under the existing guidelines gov- eming setting up of Joint Ventureslwholly (d) if so. the gUidehnes sent to different Owned Subsidiaries abreact An Inter Minis- Mlnlsfries In this regard? terial ColT' '" tt~ on joint ventures abroad in the Ministry of Commerce approves C:;I,,..I. proposals within the frame-work of the gUIde- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE lines. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) and (bl. Yes. SIr. Profitability of Foreign 8anches of Indian Banks

(c) and (d). Finance Minister has written to all Ministers suggesting identification of 8342. SHRIPARASRAMBHARDWAJ: savings in establishment expenditure so as Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to to absorb the liability on account of fresh state: D.A. instalments. They have also been re- Quested to draw up a quarterly/monthly (a) whether branches of the Indian Budget of expenditure and receipts. so as to banks operating in foreign countries haw facilitate monitonng of the overall Budget been able to maintain their business and DefiCIt. profitability during last two years; 259 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answe/S 260

(b) if so, the details in this regard Insurance Corporation (llC) of India under country-wise: Bombay and Calcutta Divisional Offices have not been placing their demand lists of pre- (c) the names of the Indian banks in mium collection to different employers on foreign countries which have been showing time for collecting premiums of policy-hold- continues losses; and ers who ave taken out policies under the lIC's salary saving scheme; (d) the steps being taken to improve their performance during the current finan- (b) whether as a result of such inaction cial year? on the part of the lIC large number of insurance policies are getting lapsed; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (c) whether the' number of paid up TRI): (a) to (d). The banks prepare their policies has increased during the past sev- Profit and Loss Accounts in the forms set out eral years; in the Third Schedule of the Banking Regu- lations Act, 1949. Only the profitlloss posi- (d) if so, the details thereof; and tion of the bank,.as a whole. during the year, is required to be incorporated in the Profit (e) the immediate steps being taken to and Loss Account and the Balance Sheet. regularise such insurance policies and for Banks are not required to indicate sepa- removal of five years stipulation for the pur- ratety domestic profits and foreign profits in pose of revival of insurance policies? their Balance Sheets. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Some of the foreign branches of Indian MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- banks have been however. In the last few TAl): (a) No, Sir. As per lIC's Salary Savings years, faced with certain problem accounts Scheme procedure, the recovery of pre- due to various factors. The performance of mium is effected by the employers on the the foreign branches of Indian banks is basis of the duly signed authority letter given continually reviewed by the Reserve Bank of by the employee to the employer. In addition, India. A number of steps have been taken to the demand lists of premium coUadian pre- improve the working of these branches and 'pared bV LIe are also sent in time to different for strengthening the operational and control employers. Further instructions are ale.- systems within the banks. The Reserve Bank issued to the emPJoyers that in cast.' ,.,1;; guidelines provide, inter-alia, for fixing up of demand invoice is not received in time due to limits of exposures for individual borrowers! postal delay etc., the employers should borrower groups, fixing up of country-wise deduct premiums on the basis of previous' limits of exposure, development of proper month's demand list. credit rating etc.

Collection of Premium under UC's (b) No, Sir. GeneraUy, almost all the Salary Saving Scheme employers are regularly paying the premiums. However, in respect of a very few 8343. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: employers, the premiums are not being Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to received in time for variety of reasons viz. state: financial trouble, Ioc:k-out, strikes, ate.

(a} whether the branches of ,he life (c) No, Sir. 261 Written AnSW915 VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Writen AnSwelS 262

(d) Does not arise. RemIttance From NRis

(e) Generally, revival of such policies is 8345. SHRIJANARDHANAPOOJARY: effected as pef rules. The revival of policies Win the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to which are in lapsed conditions for more than state: 5 years is not encouraged as the policyhold- ers have to pay huges arrears of premiums (a) whether Government are aware that with interest apart from healtn requirements. most of the remittances from Non-Resident However, many such cases are revived on Indians are r.eceived in India through non- merit considering the age of the insured. his official channels; need for revival plans of policy, unexpired term of the policy. etc. (b) if so, the amount of remittances received in the year 1988,1989 ans so far in Export of Sewing Machines 1990; and

8344. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minis- (c) the steps contemplated by Govern- ter of COMMERCE be pleased to state: ment to encourage the sending of remit- (a) whether sewing machines are being tances through official channels only? exported: and (b) if so, the countries to which they are THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE exported with earnings therefrom during last MIN ISTRY Of FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- three years? TRI): (a) and (b). The Government is aware that certain persons send money from abroad THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND through illegal channels but it is not possible TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): to give a precise estimate of such illegal (a) and (b). Sewing machines. parts includ- remittances. ing needles are exported to USSR, :rhai- land, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Zimbabwe, (c) Various incentives have already been Kenya and Madagascar. As per the informa- given to attract non-resident Indians to remit tion available with the Engineering Export their money to India through legal channels. Promotion Council (EEPC), the value of export of sewing machines including parts Finding Gold in Kamataka during the last four years IS as follows: 8346. SHRIJANARDHANAPOOJAH'y'. Year Value fRs. in crores) Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 1 2 (a) whether there is proposal to explore 1986-87 14.10 new sources of gold in the mines in Karna- taka and to close Kolar Gold Mines; 1987-88 8.28 (b) if so, the details thereof; and 1988-89 13.25 (Provisional) (e) if not, the reasons therefor?

19S9:.90 18.50 THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES \ April-Feb, 1990) (Provisional) AND MrNISTER Of LAW AND JUsnce (SHRt OINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (b). 263 Wrilten AnsllWHS MAY 11.1990

Investigations tor gold in Kamataka are being taken by Governrrient in this regard? carried out in the following areas: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE i) Gadag gold field. Dhdrwar district MtN ISTRY OF PARlIAMENTMY AFFAIRS (KabuWyatkatti, Sangli and Sanka- AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- dadak blocks). TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAl MALIK): (a) No, Sir. ii) Hutti Gold Fields. Raichur district (Wandalli and Uti Blocks). (b) to (d). Does ndt arise.

iii) Kolar Gold Field, Kolar district Setting up of Hotelsllloteis In Andhra (Footwall lode in KGF mines and Pradesh Surapalli). 8348. SHRJ M.G. REDDY: IV) Chitradurga schist belt. Chitradurga SHRI RAJAMOHANA district (Ajjanahalli and Bellara). REDDY:

v) Maski Schist belt, Raichur dIstrict Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased (Maski Sambla. Udbal and to state: Tupppadurb~s)and (a) whether Government have any vi) Nuggihalli schist, Hassan district proposals for setting up of hotels/motelsl (Kempinkote and Gollarhalli belt). yatri niwas in the State of Andhra Pradesh particularty in the Chittoor regions to attract Three mInes in KGF are planned to be more tourists; and phased out by 1994 (b) it so. the details thereof? (c) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Privatisation of Tourism MlNlSffiY OF PARLIAMENTMY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- 8347. SHRIJANARDHANAPOOJARY: TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAl Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to MALIK): (a) At present, Government has ..""- state: proposal to set up any hotels/motels'yal" niwas in the State of Andhra Pradesh, in- (a) whether a number of State Govern- cluding Chittoor region. ments have urged Union Government to privatise tourism; (b) Does not arise.

(b) if so, the details of proposals re- Expansion of Gold MInes In A.P. ceived by Government particularly from the Government of Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh 8349. SHRI M.G. REDDY: Will the and Kamataka. State-Wise; Minister oi STEEL AND M'NES be P'eased to state: (c) to what extent this wID render more service to the tourists; and (a, whether there is poposal to expand Chigargunta Gold Mines in Andhra Pradesh (d) the action taken/proposed to be to '000 tons capacity per day; and 265 Written Answers VAISAKHA21.1912(SAKA) Written AnsMnS 266

(b) if so. the details thereof? (d) whether recognised union of staff were consulted in this regard? THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI DINESH~GOSWAMI): (a) There is not MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- such proposal under consideration. ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) The general policy for opening coffee Houses is that new (b) Does not anse. coffee houses should be opened only if the losses, if any. incurred in this ronnection will Opening of Regional Rural Banks in be met by the organisation concerned in Chittoor District of Andhra Pradesh whose premises that new coHee house is proposed to be situated, There are no set 8350. SHRI M G REDDY: Will the guidelines for the closing down of coffee Mmlstpr of FINANCE be pleased to state· houses.

(3) total number of representations (b) and (c). Only the coffee house in PP'ldlOg wrth Government for opening of Patna has been closed down during this regional rural banks tn Chtttoor district of period due to the insistence of the land-lady Andhra Pradesh. and for vacating her premises. Efforts were made to find an alternative building for the coffee (b) the time by whIch deciSIOn IS hk-ply to house which could not succeed. be taken In this regard? (d) No Sir, as no staff retrenchment was THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Involved. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANll SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). Sf! Venkateswara Gra- Introducing Electronic Devices in m",,,,na Bank IS already functIOning In Chit- Minir.g Operation tom d,strict of Andhra Pradesh Moreover, NatIonal Bank for AgrICulture and Rural 8352. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA Development (NABARD) have reponed that RAJE: Will the Minister of STEEL AND r:o representatlon5 for opentng of an adcl- MINES be pleased to state: "("'"1"11 RpQlOnal Rural B:)nk In this district 1-0·1\'0 ,",can rer-Q"/f'ci (a) whether there is a proposal to intrf' duce computers and other electron.(.. U!:::" Closing Down of Coffee Houses vICes in mining operation:

8351 SHRI A. VLJAYARAGHAVAN: (b) if so, the details thereof: and W II the MInister of COMMERCE be pleased I!' ('tate' (c) the different kind of mines where computer and other electronic devices are (a) whether there are any gUIdelines for proposed to be Introduced with effect from openmg and closmg down 0' nffee houses May 1990? by the Coffee Board: THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (b) the number of coffee houses closed AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTlCE down bV the Board from 1985 to March 1990. (SHRI DINESH GOSWAUI): (a) Yes, Sir.

Ie> the reasons therefor: and (b) Various mining companies have 267 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnswetS 268 formulated proposals to introduce comput- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ers and other electronic equipments in areas MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANil SHAS- such as Mine Planning and designing, proc- TRI): (a) to (d). The information is being ess control, materials management, are collected and will be laid on the Table of the reserve estimation, reclamation, re-vegeta- House. tion, ground ~ater control, personnel mah- agement, cost control, Mine communication ITDC Project in Kerala system etc. 8354. SHRIPALAIK.M. MATHEW: Will (c) Some of the proposals known for the Minister of TOURISM be Pleased to introduction of computer and other elec- state: tronicdevices by different mining companies with effect from May, 1990 are are follows: (al whether the construction work on India Tourism Development Corporation H,ndustan llnc Limited: project in Pathanamthitta (Kerala) has been started: N-Fold computer programme for Rock Mechanics studies to determine ground (b) if so, whether the work is going on as stresses. per schedule and the present position thereof: and Hindustan Copper limited: . (c) the time by which it is likely to be i) Installation of super mini comput- completed? ers in Khetri Copper Complex, Indian Copper Complex and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Malanjkhand Copper Project. MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- ii) Engineenng and Graphics com- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL puter work stations in various units MALIK): (a) The Annual Plan 1990-91 of of the company. ITDC does not envisage any scheme/provision for taking up any project in Pathan- Payment of Fire Insurance Claims amthitta, Kerala.

8353. SHRI MlJLLAPPALLY RAMA- (b) and (c). Does not arise. CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Minimum Export Price on Psyllium

(a) the total amount of insurance claims lodged al1d paid dUring 1989 in respect of 8355. SHRI KAILASH MEGHWAl: Will de~tructlon of buildll"lgs by fire in the capital: the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state· (b) whether any nationalised banks werE' Involved In major fires during 1989: (a) the number of times a minimum export price for the export of Psyllium (Husk, leI if so. the details thereof: and Powder and Seeds) have been imposed and removed during the last ten years: (0) the amount of Insurance claims received by such natlOnnalised banks? Cb) the reasons therefor; and 269 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 270

(c) the quantum of exports of Psyllium 950/0 Purity us $ 1.90 per Kg. POB (Husk, Powder and Seeds) during the last three years, year-wise and category-wis~? 85% Purity us $ 1.75 per KG. POB

~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Psyllium Seed MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRt AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). India 99% Purity us $ 0.55 per Kg. POB enjoys a virtual monopoly in the cultivation export of Psyllium. There is relatively little 97% Purity us $ 0.47 per Kg. POB domestic consumption and the cultivators are largely dependent upon export. It has Psyllium Powder been observed that the export price realisation depends upon the crop position: in the MEP US cent 20 per Kg. more than year of fall in output, the prices tend to rise and when the crop is good, the price falls. the MEP for Psyllium Husk. The Inter se competition among the exporters also affects the export realisation. Keep- However, Since the position did not ing In new. these factors, a Minimum Export improve, the MEP was abolished w.e.f. Price (MEP) was Introduced for the first time 25.2.1987. 'Phese items were removed from on 13.5.1985 as follows: the purview of Exports (Control) Order. w.e.f. . 30th March, 1988. Subsp.quent'i'. the posi- Psyllium Husk Minimum Export Price tion was further reviewed and the export of Psyllium Seed, Psyllium Husk and Psyllium 9BO/~ PUrity US $ 2.50 per Kg. POB Powder was again brought under control w.e.f. 10th April. 1989, and was allowed 95% Purity US $ 2.35 per Kg. FOB under OCl No.3 against registratton of Contracts with CHEMEXCIL. Recently cer- 85% Purity US $ 2.50 per Kg. FOB tain representations from the different Or- ganisations were received saying that the Pysllium Seed Farmers are not getting remunerative prices and exporters are losing advantagQ of 9~O~ Purity US%O 70 per Kg. FOB monopolistic po~it;on After due consideration, it was decloE'd to re-introduce MEP for 97~';' Punty US $ 0.60 Per Kg. FOB export of Psyllium Husk w.e.f. 7th July .• ~.::~, which is as follows: Psyllium Powder Psyllium Husk Minimum Export Price MEP IS higher by 20% In all cases of export effected In powder from. Since the 98% Purity US $ 3.20 per Kg. POB prices did not pick up and stocks started accumulating because of an exceptionally 95% Purity US $ 3.00 per Kg. POB good crop. the posItIOn was reviewed and MEP was reduced on 1 7.7.1986, as follows: 85% Purity US $ 2.80 per Kg. POB

Psyllium Husk Mimmum Export Price Similarly MEP for Psyllium Seeds and Pow- der was re--introduced w.e.f. 18th August. 98% Purity US $ 2.00 per Kg. POB 1989, which are as follows: 271 WrMen Answers MAY 11. 1990 Written AnsWers 272

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Exports (in Rs. Crores FOB)

Year Psyllium Husk/Powder Psyllium Seed Total

2 3 4

1986-87 22.04 1.91 23.95

1987-88 41.41 1.05 42.46

1988-89 38.82 0.58 39.40

Aprl"89 41.00 1.00 42.00 to Feb·90.

Profitability of Public Sector Banks the 28 public sector banks increased from As. 261.80 crores during the year 1987 to 8356. SHRIMATI J. JAMUNA: Rs. 364.90 crores as at the end of March, SHRI B.N. REDDY: 1989 (for the period 1.1.88 to 31.3.89). The overall profitability of public sector banks Will the Manister of FINANCE tJepieased expressed as a percentage of published m state: profits to their working funds has also risen ftOm 0.17% in 19~7 to 0.1 g,to in 1988-89. A (a) whether reeent analysis of public statement indicaI "'9 the bank -wise dAtails of SP(1or banks h<'ls rpve<'lled improvements In published profits earned by the public ~.... ' their profitability: banks and their profitability during the years ending 31 sf December, 1987 and 31 st March, (b) if so, the bank-wise deta~s thereof 1989 is given below. indicating inter alia the ratio of net profits to working funds: and (c) Government and Reserve Bank of India have taken series of measures to (c) the steps contemplated by the Re- improve the profitability of public sector banks. serve Bank of India to further increase the These include higher coupon rates on Gov- profitability of the banks? ernment Securities, higher retums on cash balances maintained with Reserve Bank of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE India augmentation of the capital base by MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANH.. SHAS- GovemmentlResere Bank of India. Banks TRI): (a) and (b). As per the published ac- have also taken certain measures I*e en- counts. the aggregate published profits of hanced staff productivity through contain- 273 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21. 1912 (SAKAl Written AnsWMS 274 ment of staff growth. enhancement in serv- efficient funds management. ice charges and economy in expenditure. Bank have also been attempting 10 innovate Besides these steps. bank have a'so and diversify ~operations to related fields been advised to take specific me8SUf8S to like equipment leasing, merchant banking, maintain their viability and profitabiIIy by mutual funds etc. Banks have also been means of business planning and devetop- advised to critically analyse their income and ment, improving recovery of loans and ad- expenditure with a view to finding ways and vances, reduction in non-performing loans, means for improving theirprofitabimythrough preventing leakages of income etc. Written AnswetS 276 275 Written Answers MAY 11.1990

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Lon 0' Revenue Due to Delay In Filing (b) the particulars of teleplays, ballets Appeals and quality programmes including musical and dance programmes produced by it so 8357. SHRI ~AM SAGAR (Saidpur): far, how was their telecast received by the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to viewers by the large not only in the capital but state: in other metropolitan cities also;

(a) whether Government are aware that (C) whether any appraisal of the work- the appeals relating to outstanding taxes are ing of this Central Production Centre has not filed in Supreme Court within the pre- been made since its existence, if so its scribed time limit by the concerned officers; outcome; and

(b) whether the delay in filing the ap- (d) the steps being taken to improve its peals causes tremendous loss of revenue to quality of production and training of techni- the country; cians?

(cl if so:the steps taken or proposed t.o THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION be taken by Government in this regard: and AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (d) the amount involved in court stay UPENDRA): (a) to (d). The project relating to orders which has been lost on being time- the establishment of a Central Production barred? Centre (CPC) of Doordarshan at Delhi equipped with modern and highly sophisti- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE cated programme production techniques was MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- approved by the Government at a total capi- TAl): (a) to (d). It has come to Government's tal cost of As. 4936.221akhs out of which an notice that a few cases have been dismissed expenditure of Rs. 4455.25 lakhs had been by the Supreme Court as barred by limrta- incurred on the project till March, 1990. The tion. Since many of these cases are filed in break-up of the expenditure on (a) Produc- the Supreme Court on questions of Law, it IS tion of programmes and (b) on maintenance not possible to work out the precise revenue and operation of Central Production Centre implications of all these cases including staff salaries is given below:

The reasons for delay In the filling of (a) Total amount spent on Producfinn these cases in the Supreme Court have of Programmes: been analysed and the procedure for filling thereof has been streamlinesd. Year Amount

Amount Spent by Government on 2 Ooordarshan 1988-89 Rs. 20,71,000/- 8358. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 1989-90 Rs. 45,48,539/- BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a) the total amount spent by Govern- (b) Total amount spanton Maintenance ment on Doordarshan's Hi-Tech., Central and Operation of C.P.C. including Production Centre since its inception: Salaries: 287 Written AnsW91S MAY 11, 1990 Wrilfen Answers 288

Minister of FINANCE pleased to state: Year Amount be

1 2 (a) whether GOvernment are aware that a large number of private finance houses in 1988-89 Rs. 85,56,3551- the country and particularly in Delhi provide loan to poor people for the purchase of 1989-90 Rs.2,46.73,401/- commercial vehicles at a very high rate of interest; As on April 6, 1990 about 100 pr0- grammes has been produced at Central (b) if so, the details thereof; and Production centre since its inception in different formats and on various themes includ- (c) the steps proposed to be taken by ing music and dances. The programmes Government in this direction? produced at Central Production Centre have been generally well received by the viewers. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE A study conducted by the Audience Re- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- search Wing of Doordarshan on the New TRI): (a) to (c). Presumably, the Hon'ble Year's Eve Programme produced in the Member is referring to the 'Hire-Purchase Central Production Centre indicated that the Finance Companies' which carry on busi- viewers has well responded to It. Critical ness of hire-purchase transactions or the appreciation of the day-to-day programmes financing 01 such transactions. Reserve Bank produced and telecast by the Central Pro- of India (RBI) has reported that for financing duction Centre, Doordarshan IS a continu- of vehicles, the Hire-Purchase Finance ous process and is an integral part of the Companies usually charge interest at flat system. However, no speCific system ap- rates basis where the interest charges are praisal of the working of Central Production calculated on the basis of the entire amount Centre has been made so far. for the full period of advances.

Staff members of Central Production Only one facet of their activity, namely, Centre are sent for training periodically to the acceptance ~f depQsitr, 'rom public, is various training centres like flU, Pune, and regulated by the RBI through Non-Banking abroad. Several courses have been held -Financial Companies (Reserve bank) Direc- both in the area of programming and in tions, 1977. These directions, inter-alia. equipment familiarisation. Courses have provide for the maximum/minimum period of been held in the Central Production CAr.tre deposits, the rate of interest payable on on Computer Graphics, operational cm 1se deposits, etc. of BETACAM. Computerised Post p. -duction. CO Switcher, etc. Senior T echniciansl Purcha.. of Colour Televisions, YCRa' Technicians at the Centre are given training VCPS By Government Servant. at Staff Training Institute (Technical), Delhi from time to time. Newly recruited Engineer- 8360. SHRI RAM SAGAR (Saidpur): ing Assistants, and Senior Engineering Win the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Assistants on promotion, are also given Ori- state: entation training at the same Institute.

Private Finance House. (a) whether some sections of the Gov- ernment employees. have demanded loan 8359. SHRI R.N. RAKESH: Wit I the facilties at easy rates of interest for the 289 Written Answers VAISAKHA21,1912(SAKA) Witten AnSwet3 290 purchase of colour T&levisions, VCRsNCPs ter of COMMERCE be pktased to state: ate. (a) the details of public sectorlprivate (b) if so, the details thereof; sector units which export soaps, State-wise;

(c) whether Government servants are' (b) the quantity exported during the last eligible to purchase the confiscated colour' year, country-wise; and Televisions, VCPsNCRs lying with Customs Houses at subsidisAd rates; and (c) the fOreign exchange earned by them? (d) if so, the reasons therefor?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTAYOF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRt AR- TRI): (a) and (b). Some proposals for grant ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). Accord- of advance for the purchase of Television ing to provisional data compiled by the Direc- sets have been received in the past but were torate General of Commercial InteUigence not found feasible to a~pt. and Statistics (DGel as) , a quantity of about 167 lakh kg. of scap valued at about Rs. (c) No, Sir. 21.24 crores was exported during the year 1989-90. Details of country-wise exports are (d) Does not anse. gIVen in the statement below.

Export of Soap Details of exports are not, however, maintained unit-wise and state-wise by the 836'. SHAt N. DENNIS: Will the Mlnls- OGCI& S.

STATEMENT

Statement showing country-wise figUf9S of soaps exported during 1989-90

51. No. Name of the Country Quantity in Kg. V.w.inRs.

2 3 4

,. Mali 11,250 4,12,500

2. Canada 261 14,450

3. USA 10,802 4,14,668

4. Austria 2,100 88.2QO

5. Malaysia 38,441 14,20,333

6. Nepal 40,892 11,33,935

7. Singapore 39,23,976 2,70,89,250 291 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnsW91S 292

51. No. Name of the Country Quantity in Kg. Value in Rs.

1 2 3 4

8. Sri lanka 22,906 8,63,269

9. Bahrain 5,565 2,10,658

10. Kuwait 3,378 1,19,025'

11. Oman 12,790 3,83.550

12. UAE 54.12,229 4,60,67,076

13. West Germany 1.755 93,825

14. Italy 55 4,500

15. Switzerland 3,450 1,78,750

16. USSR 65,32,567 12,83,69,777

17. Mauritius 540 49,086

18. Zambia 1,13,00 23,20,046

19. Thailand 15,000 3,19,134

20. Qatar 400 8,602

21. Peoples RepublIC of China 4,460 2,39,589

22. Denmark 65 7,389

23. UK 1,750 1,02,200

24. Norway 22,240 41,751

25. Hungary 41,034 14,48,473

26. Hongkong 140 9,630

27. France 5 30

28. Saudi Arabia 8,150 1,11,766 293 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnsW915 294

51. No. Nams of the Country Quantity in Kg. Value in Rs.

1 2 3 4

29. Yemen Arab Republic 160 1,181

30. Kenya :;,04,000 7,93,4000

31. Somalia 180 23,800

32. Sweden 298 45,063

Diamond Industry in Gujarat norms. revised rates of replenishment, import of capital goods on OGL at concessional 8362. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO duty. etc. BRAHMBHATI: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: (d) The State Government of Gujarat has recently formed a Diamond Develop- (a) whether diamond industry in Gujarat ment Board for the promotion and develop- is facing recession: ment of the Industry in the State.

(b) if so, the reasons therefor: News Items ""Two Air-Hostesses Held for Smuggtlng" (c) the steps taken by Union Govern- ment to help diamond industry: and 8363. SHRI MANIKRAO HODL VA GAVIT: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (d) whether the Chief Minister of Gujarat pleased to state: has also set up a high level committee to consider the various problems facing the diamond cutting and polishing industry? (a) whether Government's attention has been drawn to the news item captIOned wTwo air-hostesses held for smuggling- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE appearing in the 'Indian Express· dated 16 MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- April, 1990: ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). Due to comparatively lower international demand (b) if so, the further action taken in the an higher inventory held by diamond trade, matter; there has been a temporary slackening of manufacturing activities In diamond sector in (c) the total number of gold smuggling GUJarat State. The Central Government has cases that came into light during the last six already liberalised the procedures, provided months, month-wise; and input support and announced Policy initia- tives for the development of the Industry. (d) the action taken against those who These measures include relaxation in credit were found guitty? 295 Written AnswelS MAY 11,1990 Written AnswetS 296

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the court of jurisdiction. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) Contraband gold worth As. 83crores approx. were seized by the Customs au- (b) In the case of Miss Zahra a com- thorities in 2006 cases during the last six plaint for prosecution has since been filed in ' months as per details given below:

MonthlYear No. of cases Oty of gold Value of gold (in Kgs.) (Rs. in CfOres)

2 3 4

Oct'89 419 782.084 23.84

Nov:89 320 259.981 8.39

Dec'89 332 258.030 8.33

Jan '89 305 263.347 8.84

Feb. '89 457 431.516 15.06

March '90 173 568.449 ·18.61

2006 2563.407 83.07

-Figures are provisional

(d) Persons found inYC'lved in smug- coast of the country have a great demand in gling are liable for penalty in departmental foreign countries; and adjudication and also prosecution in Courts (c) if so, the steps taken to boost the of Law. Theyare also liable for detention export thereof? underthe Conservation of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of Smugg~ng Activities Act, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1974, if considered necessary. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHAI AR· ANGIL SHAEEDHAAAN): (a) The total Export of Fish and Prawns quantum of marine products exported during the last 2 years were: 8364. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Year Ouantity exported SHRI ANBARASU ERA: (in tonnes)

Will the Minister of COMMEACE be 1 2 pleased to state: 1988-89 99m

(a) the total quantum of fish export 1989-90 106840 during the last two years, year-wise; (Provisional)

(b) whether prawn available on the west (Source: MPEDA, Cochin.) 297 Written AnsW9fS VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSW9fS 298

(b) Prawns available in Indian waters, provisions already exist in the Iswto proceed both from West and East Coast, have great against persons preaching secession and demand in foreign countries and India is religious hatred. exporting prawns'to 19 countries. (b) The Election Laws also already (c) The steps taken to boost shrimps provide that a person convicted for such exports are: offences shall be disqualified for the membership of Parliament and State Legisla- i) induction of new technOlgoy and tures. value addition; Assistance by NABARD in Gujarat ii) modernisation of processing facilities, quality upgradation and 8366. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO reduction in waste: BRAHMBHATT: Will the Minister of FI- NANCE be pleased to state: iii) aggressive market promotion measures: (a) whether the National Bank for Agri- culture and Rural Development (NABARD) iv) stepping up production of culture has fixed a disbursementtarget to farmers of ftsherles: Gujarat during 1990-91 ;

a} by increaSing per hectare Yield (b) the total disubursement target fixed from shrimp farms: and during the previous year;

b) by bringing more area under (c) whether the NABARD's Ahmedabad export production of shrimp by regional office has taken steps to support the culture. agriculture and rural development activities in Gujarat during 1990-91; Steps against those Preaching Seces- sion and Religious Hatred - (d) if so, the details thereof; 8365. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased (e) its likely effect on the process of rural to state: development in the State;

(a) the steps being taken or contem- (f) whether State level committees have plated against those preaching secession been constituted ~or development of indus- and religious hatred: and tries in the rural areas of the State; and

(g) if so, the details thereof? (b) whether Government consider bringing these .offences under Election Law and prevent such people from contesting the THE DEPUTY MINiSTER IN THE elections? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- TAl): (a) National Bank for Agriculture and THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Rural Development (NABARO) has reported AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE the following tentative target for Gujarat for (SHRr OrNESH GOSWAMr): (a) Sufficient the year 1990-91: 299 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 300

Pafficulars Amount fRs. in Cf'Ofes)

i) Schematic lending ~ banks 89.05

ii) Seasonal Agricu1tural Operations (SAO) 175.00

iii) Short term credit requirements of Regional 8.00 Rural Banks

(b) The total disbursements target fixed by NABARD during the previous year 1989-90 was as under:

i) SctJematic lending As. 73,997 erores

Ii) Crop loans As. 200 erores

(e) to (g). The refinance support of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NABARD for Gujarat is expected to boost MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHAI AR- the farm production through ground level ANGIL SHAEEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. credit support extended by the Banks. In addition, it will promote the growth of Agricul- (b) All the suggestions received for ture and other activities, ensure adequate change in the import and export policy were credit support to the weaker sections of the duly considered at the time of formulation of society and improve quality of lending. It will the new Import and Export Policy. It was also result in generating add~ional employ- decided to maintain status-quo in respect of ment opportunities in the rural sector. The certain agricultural and plantation products progress of credit support to rural industries such as coconut oil, copra, natural rubber, is also monitored by NABARD t!lrough its syrrthetic rubber, coir yarn and spices except regional office In the State. nutmeg and mace which were under CGL for stock and sale but have been brought unci,,"' Export of Farm Products licensable category, under the new PolICY.

Decline In Export of cardamom Pepper. 8367. SHRI PAAKASH KOKO Ginger and Cashew BRAHMBHAIT: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: 8368. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: SHRI ANBARASU ERA: . (a) whether some States have requested Union Government to reconsider the provi- Will the Minister of COM ME ROE be sion for import of farm products in the new pleased to state: import and export'policy; and (a) whether there has been a decHne in (b) if so, Government's reaction thereto? the export earnings of cardamom, ginger 301 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSMH'S 302

and cashew during 1988-89; and MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGll SHREEOHAAAN): (a) and (b). The (b) if so, the reasonc.; therefor? following were the export of cardamom, " paper, ginger and cashew during the two THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE years 1987-88 and 1988-89:

Value: Rs. crares

Year Cardamom Pepper Ginger Cashew

2 3 4 5

1987-88 3.40 240.58 4.89 326.86

1988-89 9.88 164.20 9.53 281.84

Exports of pepper In 1988-89 were lower aggregate exports in the first eleven months because of lower productIOn, negligible carry- i.e. April 1989-Feb. 1990 are provisionally over stocks and late arrivals of crop. Fall in estimated at Rs. 24,506 crores. exports of cashew during 1988-89 was due mainly to competition from Brazil where US (b) Export target for 1990-91 has ~n business has Invested in cashew with buy- fixed at As. 36,000 crores. back arrang&ments and competition from other cheaper nuts such as almonds and Export ot Footwear pistachios. 8370. SHRI MANORANJAN Exports Targets BHAKTA: SHRI ANBARASU ERA: 8369. SHRI MANORANAAN BHAKTA: Will rhe Minister of COMMERCE be SHRI ANBARASU ERA: pleased to state: SHRf P. NARSA REDDY' (a) whether Japan and Australia have Will the Minister of COMMERCE be relaxed curbs on impon of footwear; pleased to stale: (b) if so, whether Indian leather Indus- (a) the exports target set and the try has taken steps to increase export of achievement there against during 1989-90; footwear to these Countries: and and (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) the exports target fixed for 1990-91 ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): ANGll SHREEOHARAN): (a) Imports of (a) The export target for 1989-90 was set at footwear into Japan and Australia are con- Rs. 28,025 crores. As against this target. trolled through annual global quotes and 303 Written AnswelS MAY 11.1990 Written AnSwelS 304 duties. There has been no overall change ifl the Constitution. It does not authorise the this respect. State Govemments to impose any such levies afresh. (b) and (c). Market promo'ion measures abroad and product development ef- State Governments derive s~ author- forts in India for Indian leather footwear to ~ ity from the various Entries of the List-II competitive in world market in term~ of price (State List) of the Seventh Schedule of the and quality have helped in increasing ex .. Constitution and this includes taxes on min- ports and these measures are proposed to erai rights subject to any limitation imposed be continued and intensified, wherever re- by Parliament by law relating to mineral qUired. development.

[TranslatIon 1 Mining Plans

Right of States to Impose Tax on 8372. SHRI PRAHLAD SINGH PATEL: Mineral Rights Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 8371. SHRI PRAHLAD SINGH PATEL: (a) whether Government are aware that DR. LAXMINARAYAN PAN- the neo-literates and people belonging to DEYA: weaker sections are sustaining their livelihood from small mines in the State of Madhya Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES Pradesh: be pleased to state' (b) whether Government propose to (a) whether the State Governments of exempt such persons from the provisions of Bihar and West Bengal are authOrised to submitting mining plans; and impose tax on mineral rights under article 277 of the Constitution: (c) whether Union Government also propOse to make a provision in the rules so (b) if so, whether other States have t.hat mining plan could be submitted after the similar authorrty to Impose thiS tax: mining lease has been approved by the State Government but before the conclusion (c) if not the reac::ons therefor: and Qf agreement?

(d) whether Government propose to THE MINISTER OF STEELANDMINES give the right of imposing this tax to other AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE St~es also in order to remove this anomaly? (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) No person can undertake mining operations in any area THE MINISTER OF STEEL A~ MINES except under and in accordance with the AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE terms and conditions of a mining lease (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) No. Sir. granted under the relevant provisions of the Mines and Minerals (Regulation and Devel- (b) to (d). Article 277 of the Constitution opment) Act. 1gs7 and the Mineral Conces- at India gives validity only to the taxes, faes, sion R:.IJes, 1960 framed there under. The dl)ties, ceSges which were being levied main obj~s of this statute are to ensure lawfully by the Government of any State proper regulation and development of min- Immediately before the commencement of erafs, systematic and scientific mining. 305 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) W, Jtten Answers 306 minerai conservatIOn and protectIon of natu- (b) The Overseas offices of the Depart- ral envIronment The prOVISions of the stat- ment of T ounsm create awareness about ute are equally apphcable to both Dig and India abroad and promote It as a tounst small mines destination through a sustained marketing ~trategy whICh Includes printing/distribution (b) Only wrth a view to achieve thE!' of tounst literature posters, production of aforesaId objects of minerai development films and audIOVisuals and publlcrty through, and conservatIOn, the provIsIon of submIt- press, TelevIsion, and otl1er promotional ting mlnmg pla;-., Irrespective of sIze of mines, activities such as participating In Trade Fairs, was Incorporated through suitable amend- holding of Seminars, Conferences. India ments In the statute In 1987 Therefore, no Evenings etc relaxatIOn to exempt any category of mines 'S conterr,plated As a result of these measures the tOUrist arnvals In 1999 Increased by 7 8% from the (c) A change In the timing of submIssIon prevIous year of mining plan for grant of mining lease has already been made through an amendment [English] to the MIneraI ConcessIon Rules 1960 wIth pffect from 19 10 1989 An applicant can Alleged Intermediaries Role in Pur- now submit the duly approved mining plan chase of Steel Plant machinery for wlthm a penod of SIX months after the precise Steel Plants area of the proposed lease IS communicated to him by the State Government 8374 SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be Promotion of Tourism pleased to state

8373 SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA (a) whether Government are aware of MURTHY W,ll the MinIster of TOURISM be the role of some bUSinessmen as alleged pll3ased to state mtermed,arles In the purchase of steel plant machmery for Vlzag and other steel plants (a) whethertounst Industry has been hit hard by recent hike In domestIC fares which {b) If so, the facts In thiS regard and cover Indian Airlines Vayudoot and Rail- ways, and (c) tr,e steps berng taken to bring the Intermedlarres to book? (b) 1he steps taken to cruet awareness abroad about India as a tounst destlnatron THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES and the results achieved therefrom? AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI OINESH GOSWAMI) (a) No, Sir THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (b) and (c) Do not anse AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK) (a) The flow to toUrist traffIC of India Missing Bofors Counter Trade Files IS not very prrce sensItIve The main motiva- tions for forel9n tounsts to India are the 8375 SHRI BAlGOPAL MISHRA Will v

(a) whether the State Trading Corpora- in respect of this import deal and if so, tion had put on notice Board that some whether any CBI enquiry is being conducted important files in Bofors Counter Trade were in this regard? missing: THE MINISTEROF STEEL AND MINES (b) H so, the details of the documents AND MINISTE~ OF LAW AND JUSTICE which were found to be missing; and (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Import of low ash metallurgical coking coal is under (c) the action proposed to be taken Open General Licence (OGL) as per the against the officers found guilty? import-Export policy.

THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND (b) to (d). Do not arise. TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) to (c). STC shifted its counter trade ac- [Translation] counts record from Chandralok Building to Jawahar Vyapar Bhawan, the new building Language of Original Constitution during December, 1989-January, 1990. While arranging the records after shifting. it 8377. SHRI PYARElAl KHANDEl- was noticed by STC that two bags containing WAL: copies of export documents booked in the PROF. SHAILENDRANATH year 1988-89 accounts under various MOUs SHRIVASTAVA: including MOU with Bofors were missing. Subsequently, one bag was traced. In order Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE to expedite tracing of the second missing be pleased to state: bag, a notice to that effect was put up on various floors of the STC building, being the (a) the language in which the original usual practice. The second bag has also Constitution had be&n framed whereupon been retrieved and no documents pertaining the then Prime Minister and the President of to counter trade with Bofors is missing. the Constituent Assembly and other ap- pended their signatures; anct Import of Coking Coal '(b) whether it is a fad that the original 8376. SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA: Will Constitution was first translated ir.to English the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be and then retran~alated into Hindi and that pleased to state: translated version in Hindi was reoognised legally? (a) whether some private bUSiness concerns have been allowed to import cok- THE MINISTER OF STEELAND MINES ing coal; AND MINISTER Of LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) English (b) if so. the names of business con- Language. The Constitution was adopted by cerns so permitted and the countries trom the Gonstituent Assembly on 26.11.1949. which import allowed: (b) On 17th September, 1949, the (c) the procedure followed in granting ConstitMent AssembJy adopted a Resolution such permission: and as under:

(d) whether there were may complaints "Resolved that the President be au- 309 Written AnsW9IS VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Wrbm AnsW81S 310

thorised to take necessary steps to project was established at a capital cost of have a translation of the Constitution approximately As. 2.70 crores. prepared in Hindi and to have it published under his authority before Janu- llare Channels on DeIhl Doordarshan ary 26. 1950 and also arrange for the preparation and publication of the trans'- 8379. SHRI R.N. RAKESH: lation of the Constitution in such other SHRI UANIKRAO HOOLYA major languages of India as he deems GAVIT: fit ... Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND In pursuance of this Resolution, a Hindi BROADCASTING be pleased to state: translation of the Constitution of India was prepared and was stgned by the President of (a) Yfhether there is any proposal under the Constituent Assembly. the then Prime consideration of the Government to start Minister of India and other Members, on 24th more channels on T.V. for Delhi Ooordarshan: January. 1950_ Hence the original Constitu- tion was framed In English_ (b) if so, the details thereof:

[Eng/ish) (c) the time by which, more channels would be started; and Setting up of T. V. Relay Centre in Allahabad (d) the funds allocated forthis purpose?

8178. SHRI RN. RAKESH: Will the THi:: MINISTER Of _INFORMATION

I nlster of INFORMATION AND BROAD- AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF CASTING be pleased to state: PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) to (d). No. Sir. It has. (a) whether there IS any proposal under however. been decided in principle to intro- consideration of Governmentto set up a T. V. duce Second Channel TV Service from 16 relay centre in Allahabad In Uttar Pradesh: additional cities under the Eighth Plan. subject to availability of funds. (b) if so. the details thereof: [ Translation ] (c) whether any site has been selected for this purpose: Premium Rates for Insurance of _ruti Cars (d) the area likely to be covered by the above T.V. centre: and 8380. SHRI RN_ RAKESH: SHRI MANIKRAO HOOLYA (e) the funds allocated for this purpose? GAVIT:

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF to state: PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a)to (e). A high power (1 0 KW) (a) the total amount of premium earned TV transmitter is already functioning at by Government by insuring Maruti catS and Allahabad since 1984providing service within vans and the amount paid tor the accident an area of about 45,2000 Sq. Kms. This claims thereof during the last two years; 311 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written AnswelS 312

(b) whether the claim payment is ex- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES ceeding the amount of premium; AND MINISTER Of LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI):(a)Ason31.12. (c) whether Government propose to 1989, 18941 land Iord"enant dispute cases increase the premium rates therefor; were pending in the Courts of RenV Addl. Rent Controllers in Delhi. (d) if so, the details thereof: and (b) Pendency of cases is due to several (e) if not, how this loss witt be made up? complex factors.

(c) It is proposed to create additional THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE posts in the Delhi Judicial Service with ancil- MINISTRY OF FINANCE ($HRI ANIL SHAS- lary staff to dear the arrears in the subordi- TRI): (a) and (b). Motor Insurance premium nate courts in Delhi. and claims statistics are not maintained by the general insurance Industry accordmg to Export of Marine Products make of the vehicles and as such, the re- qUired information IS not available sepa- 8382. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the rately for Maruti Cars and Vans. Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state:

(a) the export of marine products during (c) to (e). The motor Insurance pre- 1989-90; mium for various types of vehicles has been revised upwards w.e.f. 1.4.90. The increase (b) whether any new measures are rn the case of prIVate cars including Marutl proposed to be taken to further increase their Cars and Vans works out to about 4.95% on exports during 1990-91; and average. (c) if so, the details thereof? [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- Land LordlTenant Disputes Pending in ANGIl SHREEDHARAN): (a) The export of Lower Courts In Delhi marine products during 1989-90 is of the order of Rs. 622. 46 crores (provisional). 8381. SHRI RADHA MOHAN StNGH: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The new meas- pleased to state: ures taken tofurther increase export of marine products during 1990-91 are; (a) the number of land lord"enant dispute cases pending in the lower Courts at Tis i) Reduction of import duty on 'Prawn Hazari Deihl; feed' to 25%.

(b) the reasons for which such cases ii) Reduction of import duty on certain continue to remain pending for long: and Machineries for seafood process- ingt035%. (c) the steps Government propose to take tor quick disposal of these cases in the iii) Placing of the items 'Prawn Feed' interest of speedy justice? and Fish-mear under Advance li- 313 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 314

censing Scheme. (a) whether the National Bank for Agri- culture and Rural Development (NABARD) iv) Placing of a number of seafood plans to open over 100 offices d~ring the processing Machineries under year 1990-91; and O.G.L of Import-Export Policy: and (b) if so, the names of places where v) Organising Buyer-Seller meets in these offices will be opened, State-wise? Japan and West Europe, by the MPEDA. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Opening of NABARD Offices TRI): (a) and (b). National Bank for Agricul- ture and Rural Development (NABARD) has 8383. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: reported that It has decide to open its offices SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: in 86 districts in different States during 1990- 91. The details are given below in the State- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased ment. to state:

STATEMENT

Name of the State District offices to be opened during 1990-91

Andhra Pradesh 1. Srikakulam

2. Nellore

3. Mahabubnagar

4. Krishna

5 Khammam

6. Anantpur

7. Chittoor

Assam 1. Karbiaglong

2. Jorhat

3. Goalpara

4. Dibrugarh

Bihar ,. East Champaran 315 Written AnsIWHS MAY 11.1990 Wnlten AnsMHS 316

Name of the State District offICeS to be opened during 1990-91

1 2

2. Deogarh

3. Palamu

4. Gaya

5. Dhanbad

6. Saran

7. Muzafarpur

8. Vaishali

Gujarat 1. Broach

2. Surendranagar

Haryana L Ambala

2. Kurukshetra

3. Sonepat

4. Mohindargam

5. KAmal

6. Bhiwani

Himachal Pradesh 1. Hamirpur

2. Kangra

Kamataka 1. Gubarga

, Shimoga

3. Oharwad

4. Chitradurga

5. Bijapur 317 Written AnSwet5 VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswefS 318

Narne of the State District offices to be opened during 1990-91

1 2

Kerala 1. Palghat

2. Trichur

3. Pattanamthitta

4. Allepy

5. Idukki

6. Ernakulam

Madhya Pradesh 1. Dhar

2. Khandwa

3. Bilaspur

4. Indore

5. Jabalpur

6. Gwalior

7. Hoshangabad

8. Raipur

Maharashtra 1. Ahmednagar

2. Jalgaon

3. Akola

4. Kolhapur

5. Rdtnagiri

6. Solapur

7. Chandrapur 319 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnswelS 320

Name of the State District offices to be opened during 1990-91

1 2

8. Yeotmal

Orissa 1. Dhenkanal

2. Ganjam

3. BolangJr

Punjab 1. Hoshiarpur

2. Ropar

Rajasthan 1. Chittorgarh

2 Sawai Madhopur

3. Nagaur

4. PaJi

5. Sikar

Tamil Nadu 1. Dindigul

2. Vellore

3. South Arcot

4. Dharmapuri

5. Periyar

6. Trichy

Uttar Pradesh 1. Fatehpur

2. Etawah

3. Meerut

4. Bareily 321 Written Answers VAISA~~HA 21.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 322

Name of the State District offices to be opened during 1990-91

1 2

5. Saharanpur

6. Gorakhpur

7. Jhansi

8. Sitapur

9. Moradabad

10. Agra

West Bengal 1. Hooghly

2. Murshidabad

3. Nadia

4. Maida

Total 86

Autonomy to Prasar Bharati Corpora- THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION tion AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. 8384. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the UPENDRA): (a) A Seminar on the subject Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- "Prasar Bharati-Autonomyfor aedbility. Can CASTING be pleased to state: credibility be achieved without competition- was organised by National Union of Journal- (a) whether a conference was org~n ists of India and TV Programme .Producers Ised by the National Union of journalists and Guild of India on 12th April. 1990. the TV Programme Producers guild of India during the month of April, 1990 on giving full (b) About 100 persons attended the autonomy to Prasar Sharati Corporation; Seminar; The Seminar's consensus was on points such as there should be two Corpora- (b) If so, the number of experts who tions, one for Radio and the other for TV. attended the conference and the decision instead of the Board of Governors there taken in the conference: and should be a Board of Trustees, Directors- General of both of AIR and Doordarshan (c) the action taken by Government should be Executive Trustees (Governors) thereon? of the Corporation, there is need for compe- 323 Written AnS111191S MAY 11,1990 Written AnswetS 324 tition to raise the quality and content etc. etc. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) to (d). On an initiative taken (c) The consensus points have been by the Govemment, the Film Industry has set processed alongwith other suggestions from uptheir own saeening committees for effec- different quarters for formulating amend- tively chaclOOg obscenity in cinema posters ments to the Prasar Bharati Bill. and other publicity material. It is for the industry to evolve guidelines governing their Censorship by Film Industry on "s working. Publicity Material (Ttanslation 1 8385. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: WiD the Minister of INFOR~4ATION AND BROAD- Recruitment of Employees In LlC CASTING be pleased to state: 8386. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Will the (a) whether the film industry has agreed Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: to have a self imposed censorship of its posters and other publicity material to be screened and deared by its Film Council; (a) the staff strength in life Insurance Corporation in major categories as on Janu-, (b) if SO. whether these proposals were ary, 1988, January, 1989 and J&nuary, 1990; forwarded to Union Government by the Rim Federation of India: (b) the percentage of increase in the officers cadre and ministerial staff during (c) if so, the details of the proposals thatperiod.~ise;and made by the Rim Industry for censorship and posters and other publicity materials: (c) whether the increase has led to and increase in efficiency in customer services?

(d) the reactIon of Union Government THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE thereto? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) Permanent staff strength in llC as THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION -on 1.1.1..988, 1.11989 and 1.1 .1990 is given AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF below:

Class of Posts Staff Strength Staff Strength Staff Strength as on 1.1.88 as on 1.1.89 as on 1.1.90

2 3 4

Class I 7118 7945 9150

Class II 9348 10591 11800

Class III 46048 44643 50283

Class IV 8571 7906 9836 325 Written Answers VAtnAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 326

(b) Percentage of increase ill various cadres is as under:

1988 1989 1990

1 2 3 4

Class I 10.27% 11.62% 15.17%

Class II 17.23% 13.30% 11.42%

Class III 9.28% (-) 3.05% 12.63%

Class IV 2.70% (-) 7.76% 24.41%

(c) Yes, Sir. fore, not possble at this stage to indicate the number or location of branches of Public Opening of Bank Branches In Uttar Sector Banks that will be opened in each Pradesh district of Uttar Pradesh during 1990. Out of the licences granted under the previous 8387. SHRI RAJVEERSINGH: policy. 241 licences are still pending with SHRI SARJU PRASAD SA- Public Sector Banks for opening of branches ROJ: in Uttar Pradesh. With a view to ensuring that OR. BENGALI SINGH: BankofflC8S are opened at the allotted centre. SHRI KALPNATH SONKAR: the Reserve Bank of India has extended the validity period of these licences upto 30.9. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 1990. to state: Cases Pending in Supreme Court (a) the number of branchgs of public sedor banks opened in Uttar Pradesh dur- 8388. SHRIRAJVEERSINGH:WiHthe jng the last three years: and Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to slate: (b) the number of breaches of the public sector banks proposed to be opened in each (a) the number of cases pending for district of the State during 1990 and the more than five years in the Supreme Court: locations thereof? and

THE DEPUTY M'NISTER IN THE MIN- (b) the details of the steps being taken ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- by Government for their quick disposal? TRI): (a) and (b). PWlic Sector Banks opened 582 branches in Uttar Pradesh during the THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES last three years (from 1.1.1987 to AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE 31.12.1989). The previous Branch Licens- (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) As on ing Policy (1985-90) came to an end on 31.12.1989, 23921 (Regular Hearing Mat- 31.3.1990. The new Branch Licensing Pol- ters only) cases were pending for more than icy has not been finalised so far. It is, there- five years in the Supreme Court. 327 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 WrittM AnSW9rs 328

(b) Various steps have been taken to . Besides, the Corporation has also estab- reduce pendency of cases in Courts, such lished National Film Circle in Bombay for as, grouping of matters regarding common screening of good films in collaboration with question of law and constitution of special National Film Archives. Nominal Annual benches. Membership fee of As. 100/- to 400/- is charged and so far more than 300 films have [Eng/;sh] been screened under this scheme.

Distribution of Films to Film Societies Deposit Insurance and Credit Guaran- tee Corporation 8389. SHRI M. RAMANNA RAJ: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 8390. SHAI J. CHOKKA RAO: Win the CASTING be pleased to state: Ministe~ of FINANCE be pleased to state:

(a) the average number of films given (a) the objE-cts of the Deposit Insurance per year by the National Film Archives to film and Credit Guarantee Corporation of India; societies for distribution; (b) the amount of fee collected by the (b) whether film society movement is Corporation during the lastthree years, year- facing hardships in finding good films for wise and State-wise; and screening; (c) the number of claims settled by the (c) if so, whether Government propose Corporation during the above period and the to increase the number of filim for distribution amount involved therein, yearwise and State- to film societies; and wise?

(d) whether there is any plan to give film THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to film societies on concessional rate by the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- National Rim Development Corporation TRI): (a) The objectives of Deposit Insur- (NFDC)? ance and Credit Guarantee Corporation (DICGC) are: THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER Of i) to transact the business of insuring PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. deposits with banks, and UPENDRA): (a) The average number of films gIVen per year by the National Film ii) to transact the business of guaran- Archives of India to film societies for distribu- teeing and indemnifying loans and tion is 117. advances granted by banking companies, cooperative banks and (b) Yes, Sir. other finandal institutions. The Credit Guarantee Schemes (eGC) (c) and (d). Apart from distribution of introduced by the Corporation from films to film societies by the National Film time to time have their objectives to Archives of India, National Films Develop- induce banks and other financial ment Corporation, a Public Sector Undertak- institutions to lend to Sma" Scale ing in the Ministry of Information and Broad- Industries and small borrowers casting is also helping film societies in the particularly to those belonging to screening of good fitms at subsidised rates. Weaker and hitherto neglected 329 W"tten Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 330

sectIOn of the Society. I.e. 1987 (January to December), 1988-89 (from January, 88 to March,89) and 1989-90 (b) and (c) The guarantee fee collected (from Apnl, 89 to March, 90) are as under: and claims settled dunng the last three years

(Rs. In crores)

Year Guarantee fee collected Amount of claims settled

2 3

1987 (January to December) 145 17 236.57

1988-89 (January, 88 to March 89) 191 89 43717

19.39-90 (Aprrl. 89 to March, 90) 562 OS 71466 (provIsIonal)

DICGC has reponl'd that the State-wIse ment has no proposal to set up hotels In the break-lip of the guarantee fee collected and JOint sector However, a request from Gov- amount of claIms settle are not available ernment of Tamil nadu for settmg up of a hotel by ITDC In collaboratIOn with State Construction of Major and Medium Government at Madras IS being examined Hotels in Joint Sector Construction of Hotels in Public Sector 8391 SHRI J CHOKKA RAO SHRI S KRISHNA KUMAR 8392 SHRI J CHOKKA RAO' Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state W,ll the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state (a) whether Government are conslder- In9 to construct more hotels In pubhc sector (a) whether Government propose to to promote tOUrism, construct more major and medium hotels ac- commodatton In the JOint sector for the bene- (b) if so, the numberof hotels proposed fit of middle Income group tOUrists as a pan to be constructed with theIr IocatKJns: and of tourism promotion programme. and (b) If 90, the detaIls thereof and the (C) If not, the reasons therefor? extent of accommodation to be set up In dIfferent 'A' class CitieS and the State of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE k~rala dunng 1990-91? MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS TRY OF TOURISM (SHRf SATYA PAL AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- MALIK): (a) The Annual Plan 1990-91 of TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL fTOC does not envIsage any specifIC schemel MALIK). (a) and (b) At present, Govern- provIsIOn for constructIOn of star hotels In the 331 Written Answprs MAY 11.1990 Written Answers 332 country. of FINANCE be pleased to state:

(b) and (c). Does not arise. (a) the credit-deposit ratio of banks in rural and semi-urban areas: Import of Drugs (b) the present position of loan repay- 8393. SHRI KAlPNATI-I SONKAR: Wilt ment in the rural as well as urban areas: and the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) percentage of recovery of loans (a) whether certain cases of unauthor- from rich and poor categories? ised imports of drugs and drug intermediates have come to the notice of the Ministry THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE dunng the last three years: and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) The credit deposit ratio of all sched- (b) If so. the details thereof and action uled commercial banks in rural and seml- tal(en on each c:,!~p') urban areas as on the last Friday of Decem- ber 1989 (latest available) was 63.8 percent THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and 50.0 percent respectively. t.1INISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS· TRI): (a) and (b). The InformatIOn IS belOg (b) and (c). The present data reporting col!ected and will be laid on the Table of the system does not yield information in the House. manner asked for. However. the category- wise percentage proportion of provisional Credit Deposit Ratio in Rural and Semi- overdues ;n the respective category-wise Urban Areas outstanding advances of public sector banks as on 31st March. 1989 (latest available) is 8394. DR. ASIM BALA· win the MInister gIVen below:

Catf>9ory Percentage of overdues in outstanding advances

a) large and Medium Industry 14.10

b) Small Scale Industries 20.25

c) Agm:u1ture 19.51

d) Other Priority Sectors 29.91

e) All Others 9.39

All Sectors 16.35 333 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA)

Bank Robberies (c) As per available information, on 6th April, 1990 one case of attempted robbery 8395. SHRI VASHWANTRAO PA- involving Syndicate Bank's Extension TIL Counter at Air Force Station, Palam was SHRI KALP NATH RAI' foiled by the bank guard. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN~ OIA' (d) and (e). In order to motivate bank SHRI SARJU PRASAD SA- employees, general public and the parlee ROJ personnel etc. a scheme for giving reward to those who reslStlfoil the attempts of robbers! Wi"the MInister of FINANCE be pleased dacoits, is irl operation. Besides, banks to state have also been advised to recommend the names of those persons who show excep- (a) whether a spate of bank robbenes tIOnal courage In reslstlng/foiling bank, rob- and Iootmgs have been notICed In the eaprtal benes!dacoitles for granting Gallantry and other parts of the country In recent Awards Information regarding the amount months. gIVen as reward to each Individual will be collected from the concerned banks and will (b) If so, the number of Incidents of bank be laid on the Table of the House. to the robberies and Iootlng5 whICh occurred In the extent available. capital and rest of the country dUring the past four months (January-Apnl, 1990) and the (f) Bank robbenesldacoltl9S, to a con- amount of money taken away as booty. siderable extent, depend on the general security enVironment In the locality. Security (c) the numbel of attempts of robbenes measures Implemented by publIC seelor and Iootlngs rendered unsuccessful by the bankS are reVived from time to time and presence of mind of publIC, polICe or bank whenever further Improvements are consid- staff . ered necessary, requisite guldellneslinstruc- tlOns are gIVen to the banks. Depending on (d) whether Government give some the risk factor inwlved, banks have claSSI- reward to public/bank staff InJuredAulled while fied thewbranches, and posted armed guards. resisting bank robbenes. I"'stalled antt-burglarylrobbery devICeS, etc., wherever necessary. (e) "so, the amount gIVen to each indIVIdual InJuredlkilled, If any, dunng bank [Translabon ] robberies referred to In part (b) above. and Educational Programmes Telacasl by (f) the steps taken to effectIVely prevent Doordarshan tor Students bank robberies? 8396. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of INFORMA T10N AND MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: TAl): (a) and (b) Reserve Bank of India has reported that 34 Incidents of bank robberies! (a) the total number of educational decoltles including one In the Umon Territory programmes telecast for students last year of Deihl Involving a total amount of As. and the number thereof telecast in English 159 30 lakhs were reported In the country, and Hindi, separately with duration of such dUring the penod tram 1 1 90 to 22 4.90 programmes; 335 Written AnswPfS MAY 11.1990 Written Answers 336

(b) whether any polICY, time frame and Opening of Branches of Sta,,; Bank of well formulated scheme has been prepared india in Rajasthan therefor, 8397. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT· Will the MInister of FINANCE be pleased to (c) whether any review has been con- state ducted about the populanty and acceptabil- Ity of such programmes, and (a) the total number of branches of the State Bank of IndIa (SBI) In Rajasthan. dIS- trict-wIse, (d) rf so, the details thereof? (b) the location thereof,

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION fc) the total number of employees AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF working therein and the number of those PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P who are permanent and temporary, sepa- UPENDRA) (a) The educational pro- rately, grammes telecast by Doordarshan speCially for students consist of higher educatIOnal (d) whether Government propose to set programmes prepared by University Grants up more branches of the Bank In the State In Commission (UGCprogrammes)forcoltege near future, Ipvp! students and c:chool syllabus oriented programmes meant lor school gOing chll (e) If so, the details thereof. dren (STV programmE's) (f) whether Government have received any proposal from the SBI to set up Its DUring 1989, 1981 programmes were branches In commerCial and Industnaltowns telecast In English and 1340 In Hindi The such as Vljay Nagar In Ajmer district, and duration of each UGC programmes was one hour and that each STV programmes rn (g) If so, the time by which deCISIOn IS Englrsh and Hind, was 20 minutes hkely to be taken l(l thiS regard?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) Yes Sir The policy IS to enrich and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- supplement the subJects Included In the TRI) (a) and (b) As on 31 31990, 153 EducatIOnal Currrculum of the States and branches of State Bank of IndIa were func- untversltles In the country SlV programmes tioning In Rajasthan State The dlstnctwlse are formulated In consultatIOn with the Edu- location of these branches are IndICated In catIOnal Departments of the State Govern the statement below ments UGC programmes are plannp~ clnd produced undpr the CommiSSion <; I')wn (c) Data reportIng system of State Bank SUperviSIon of India does not generate informatIon In the manner asked for However, as per Informa- tIon available With the bank there are 3092 (c) No such specJfIC review has been employees of State Bank of IndIa WOrkIng In camPd out by Doordarshan RaJasthan

Cd} Does not anse Cd) to (g) The prevIous Branch llcens- 337 WrdtE>n Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) WTJtten Answers 338

In9 Policy (198'5-90) came to an end on A/war 31 3 1990 The new Branch Licensing Pol- ICy has not been finalised by Rpserved Bank Ajabpura ~ of India so far 14 has not been Issued under the prevIous Branch LicenSing Policy for the 2 Alwar State of Rajasthan are pending with State Bank of India for utilisation and Reserve 3 Aryanagar Alwar Ban,< of India has extend~d the validity penod for these licences, upto 30 9 1990 State 4 Baletu SAB Bank of India has further reported that It has submitted applications to Reserve Bank of 5 Behrod ADB Inrt(~ far apenlnn hr~n('hps ~t VIJay N~aar and some other centres In D'stnct AJmer 6 Bhlwadl These applications would be examined by RBI on ments 7 Itarana

STATEMENT 8 Kher"

Almpr 9 Kotkaslm

Ajmpr 10 Matsya Industrial Estate AI- war 2 Andhpri Opon 11 RaJgarh ADS and Ramgarh ADB 3 Baghpra (Rajasthan)

4 Bf'awar Banswara

5 Beawar Evening branch Banswara

6 Olggl Bazar 2 ChanduJl Ka Gada SAB and Kushalgarh ADS 7 AJmer Barmer 8 K~dpra SAS Barmer City 9 Kekn ADB 2 Gudhamalanl ADS 10 Khawas SAB Bharatpur 1 1 Loco Workshop Almf'r

12 Machine Tools Corporation of Ballabhgarh Rajasthan Indl;] Limited Ajmer 2 Bharatpur 13 Mad,mganJ Kishangarh 3 Bhusawar ADS 14 Naslrabad Ajmer and PnthwaJ Marg AJmer 4 Brahambad 339 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 340

5. Deeg ADB 2. Chittorgarh and Nimbahera ADB

6. Gopalgarh SAB Churu

7. Nadbai ADB 1. Churu

8. Nithar SAB and Thoon SAB 2. Ratangarh and Sujangarh

Bhilwara Dholpur

,. Asind ADB 1. DholpurAD6

2. Bhilwara 2. Tasimo

3. Bhilwara Evening Branch Dungarpur

4. Hurda ADB 1. Chundawara SAB

s. Mandalgarh ADB 2. Dungarpur and Jethana

6. Palan SAB Ganganagar

7. Raila and Dhaman,ya SAB 1. Bajoowala SAB

Bikaner 2. Baramsar SAB

Arjansar 3. Chhani Bari ADB

2. Bikampur SAB 4. Hanumangarh ADB

3. Bikaner City 5. New Mandi Hanumangarh

4 Gangashahr ROCld Blkaner 6. Raisingh Nagar ADB

5. JairnalsM SAB and SadulganJ 7. Rawla Mandi SAB B,kaner 8. Sadulshahr Bund; 9. Sriganganagar 1 . Arnetha 10. Srikaranpur ADB 2. Bundi andJawahar Sagar Khadi- pur 11. Suratgarh and Leelawali SAB

Chitforgarh Jaipur

1. Chhoti Sadari ADS 1. 8agru 341 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswefS 342

2. Bajaj Nagar Jaipur 3. Jalore and Marseen SAB

3. 8hain~a JhaJawar

4. C Sc!leme Jaipuf 1. AAlera ADB

5. Dausa 2. Jhalawar and Sareri SAB

6. Hawa Sarak Sodala Jaipur Jhunjhunu

7. Jaipur 1. Jhunjhunu

8. Jalpur Cantt. Jodhpur

9. Jalpur South 1. Army Cantonment Area Jodhpur

10. Kanwarnagar Jatpur 2 Bilara ADB

11 Loonlyawas SAB 3. Gangani SAB

12. Malavlyanagar Jalpur 4. Indian Air Force Station Jodhpur

13 New Central Revenue BUilding 5. Jodhpur Jalpur 6. Joudhpur City 14. Sambhar Lake 7. Kharia Khangar 15. Sanganer 8. luni SAB 16. Slndhl Colony Bani Park Jatpur 9. Osian 17. Tonk Road Jalpur 10. Rul-Ka-Bagh Jodhpur 18. Transport Nagar Jaipur 11. Railway Station Jodhpur 19. Vidyadhar Nagar Jaipur and Vishwakarma Industrial Estate 12. Shastri Nagar Jodhpur Jaipur 13. U.I.T. Jodhpur and Jeloo Gagri Ja;sa/mer

1. Jaisalmer and Nahdai SAB Kota

Jalore 1. Aditya Nagar Morak

1. Devara ADa 2. Atru ADB

2. Ahora 3. Kota 343 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 344

4. Kota ADS and ladpura Kota 3. Udaipur

Nagaur 4. Rajasthan

1. ladnun 5. Udaipur City Rajasthan

2. Makrana and Nagaur Tea Export

PaliMarwar 8398. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased 1. Falna to state:

2. Pali City Evening Branch (a) the details of the tea exporting companies and agencies and the quantity of 3. Pali Marwar tea exported by them every year;

4. Rani (b) the procedure adopted by Govern- ment while granting permission to these 5. Sojat Industrial Area and Sumor- companies for export of tea; pur (c) whether any concession has been Sawa; Madhopur granted in respect of export of tea to any particular country; and 1. Hindaun City and Man Town (d) if so, the details thereof? Sika, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1. Reengus and Sikar MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) As on date Sirohi there are 606 firms/companies holding valid licences as exporters of tea. The total quan- 1. Abu Road tity ~f tea exported during the last three years is given below:- 2. Basantgarh Jaykaypuram Year Quantity Exported 3. Mount Abu (Million kgs.) 4. Posaliya SAB and Sirohi 2 Tonk 1987-88 207.57 1. Newal Industrial Area and Tonk 1988-89 208.82 UdaipUl 1989-90 '202.81 1. Badgaon ADB (E) Estimated)

2. Bhawana (Girwa) Udaipur (b) Any exporter oftea from India has to 345 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 346 be registered with the Tea Board under the (c) No, Sir. Tea (Distribution and Export) Control Order. 1957. Holders of valid exporter's licence as Import of Edible 011 issued by Tea Board under this order are \ eligible to export tea from India, Shipment of 8400. SHRt SARJU PRASAD SAROJ: tea against valid export orders is effected by Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased an exporter after obtaining shipment licence to state: issued by Tea Board in respect of each consignment in accordance with the rele- (a) the fall in volume of import of edible vant provisions of the Tea Act, 1953 and the oil during 1987-88 and 1988-89; and Tea (Regulation of Export Licensing) Order, 1984. (b) the percentage increase in unit value of imported oil during 1988-89? (c) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND (d) Does not anse. TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) Imports of edible oils fOse from a level of [English] 13.071akhs MT In 1986-871akh MT in 1987- 88 before declining to 1O.89lakh MT in 1988- Introduction of Cassette System of 89. Recording by Karnataka (b) The average contracted cif price of 8399. SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will Imported edible oils rose by 26% from Rs. the Minlsterof INFORMATION AND BROAD- 5.264/- PMT in 1987-88 to Rs. 6,652/- PMT CASTING be pleased to state: in 1988-89.

(a) whether AIR stations In Karnataka Guidelines Relating to Public Issues by are adopting the old method of disc record- Companies ing of film songs for broadcasting: 8401. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: (b) if so, whether Government are aware Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to that the new film songs, classical musIc and stJte: other programmes are not available 10 disc recording system: and (a) whether the Ministry has issued any new guidelines relating to public issues by (c) whether Government propose to the companies; introduce Cassette system of recording of songs for broadcasting purposes on all AIR (b) if so, the details thereof; stations in Karnataka? (c) in what manner are the new guide- THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION lines different from those in existence: AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARliAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (d) the details of the salient factors UPENDRA): (a) Yes. Sir. safeguardjng the interests of the common people investing in the shares; and (b) Most of the· recordings are available on. discs: and , (e) the number of complai~ts received 347 Written AnsW9fS MAY 11,1990 Written AnswefS 348 by Government against the companies ex- 2. In cases where a composite ap- tracting money from Investors and not bour- proval has been obtained for nghts Ing the commitments made? and publIC issues from the CCI, the above hmit of 90% will apply to the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE total amount, Irrespective of MIN ISTAY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- whether the ISsues are made SI- TAl) (a) to (d). Mlntstry of Fmance Issues multaneously or not vanous guidelines from time to tIme Re- cently, as a follow up of the Finance MiniS- 3 For Issues made against such ter's assurance In the House on 22nd March, composIte approvals, the gap be- 1990, further guidelines were ISSUed to the tween the closure dates of varIOus effed that allotment In publIC/rights Issues Issue (e g rights, Indian publIC, should not be made unless a minimum NRls etc) should not exceed 30 subscnptlOn of 90010 of the entire Issue had days been receIVed A copy of these gUidelines IS given below as Statement 4 Rtghts Issues would not be allowed to be kept been for more than 60 (e) Complaints of different categortes days are usually forwarded to the concerned au- thontles for surtable actIOn. and the specifiC 5 tf there IS a development on under- Information as sought IS not maintained writers, subSCriptIOn from them Will have to be obtained within 90 days STATEMENT from the closure of the ISSue to achieve the minimum 90% level SubjeCt M,nimum subscrrptlOn In publICi Rights Issues 6 It would be essential for the promoters to make their subscnptton The problem faced by Investors In un- In advance, before the public Issue derscnbed capital ISsues has been engag- opens, and gIVe a certifICate to thiS Ing the attentIOn of Government for some effect to the regIOnal stock ex- time. In thiS context the following has been change concemed declded'- 7 SubscriptIOn received against A company makIng any nghtSlpubl1C nghtslpubllC Issues Will be kept In Issue of securities would not be spectflC bank accounts and com- allowed to make the aHot~nt of panies would not have access to the shares/debentures etc ~'1lless such funds unless they have re- It has receIVed a mlntmurr"{Jf 90% ceived an approval from the con- subscnptlOn agamst the entire IS- cerned regIOnal stock exchange(s) sue for allotment. Where "stIng has been proposed on more than one exchange, no allotment or utilisa- If the subscriptIOn to thiS ex- tion shall be allowed tlU hsting tent IS not recetVed, the entire approval IS available from each of amount collected WIth apphcabons the exchanges concerned. would have to be refunded to the applicants at the end of 90 days 8. CompanIeS wiff be required to 'rom the cbsure of ISsue submit ceftla. to the regional 349 Written AnsW91S VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 350

st~ exchange, with copy to SEBI (b) whether the prescribed time-limit is and the CCI, signed by the mer- being adhered to by the Income-Tax Offi- chant banker and the Chief Execu- cers; tive/Comparty Secretary of the Company, to the effect that the (c) how many such applications have issue has been subscribed upto been pending for over 20 months in the 90% of the total for getting approval different offices of the Income Tax Depart- of the stock exchange for allot- ments i~ various regions; and ment. (d) how much further time will be taken 9. Companies will make adequate to dispose of these applications? disclosures in the Prospectus, letters of offer, advertisements. pub- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE licity literature, investors'lbrokers' MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- conferences etc. in this context and TRI): (a)to (d). Under instructions issued by also undertake to refund the the Central Board of Direct Taxes, Commis- amounts at the end of 90 days from sioners of Income Tax have been advised to the closure of the issue, if not sub- dispose of such applications within 90 days. scribed upto 90%, and to pay inter- Information regarding applications not dis- est at 15% per annum If refunds are posed of within the said period; applications delayed by more than ten days pending for over 20 months; and the time by after this period. whICh such applications will be disposed of is not available with the Central Board of Direct 10. These guidelines/conditions will Taxes and is now being collected from the apply to all public/rights Issues fiel~ offICes. made hereafter, except those for which prospectusesneners of offer Asian Development Banks' Policy have been filedlissued upto 8th April 1990. 8403. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATI: Income Tax Exemption to Charitable SHAI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Organisations

8402. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased SHRI V. SREENIVASA to state: PRASAD: (a) whether the Asian Development Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Bank has made any changes in regard to its to state: lending policy to India; and

(a) the time-limit to dispose of the (b) if so, the details with reasons thereof? applications by the Income-Tax Department for the grant of exemption under Section BOG of the Income Tax Act, 1961 submitted THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE by Charitable Organisations and of the MINISTRYOfFINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- applications regar9ing the extension of t~e TAl): (a) No, Sir. period of validity of the exemption already granted: (b) Does not arise. 351 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnSW91S 352

Sail's Coal Import (100 W) TV transmitters one each at Dhule, Nandurbar and Shahad, are at present func- 8404. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA: tioning in DhuJe district of Maharashtra. Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be Whereas there is no approved scheme at pleased to state: present to establish an additional TV transmitter in Dhule district, it is the endeavour of (a) whether the Inter-Ministerial group the Government to extend T.V. service to constituted regarding the import of coking uncovered parts of the district as expedi- coal from Australia has submitted its report: tiously as possible, depending upon the and availability of funds for this purpose.

(b) if so, the details of its recom",enda- Permission to Private Sector to Estab- tlons? lish T.V. and Radio Stations in Uncov- ered Areas THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS- 8406. SHRI A.A. ANTlILAY: Will the TICE (SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- Sir. CASTING be pleased to state:

(b) The report of the Inter-Mlnlstenal (a) whether Government are consider- group alongwith Its recommendations are ing to allow priva1e sector to establish TV still under examination In the Government. and Radio Stations for putting out programmes in uncovered areas of the country; T.V. Relay C~ntre in Dhulliya in Mahar- and ashtra (b) if so, the details thereof? 8405. SHRI MANIKRAO HODL YA GAVIT: Will the MinIster of INFORMATION THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (a) whether there IS any proposal to set UPENDRA): (a) No, Sir. up a T.V. Relay Centre In Dhulhya in Mahar- a5htra: (b) Does not arise.

(b) If so. the dpt.1ils 1hereof: Criminal Cases Pending In Supreme CourtlHigh Courts (e) whether any site has been selected for this purpose: 8407. SHRI A.A. ANTULAY: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased (d) the area likely to be covered by the to state: above T. V. Centre: and

(e) the funds allocated forthis purpose? (a) the number of crimitlal cases tried in the High Courts and the Supreme Court; THE. MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (b) the number of such cases pending PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. for disposal for the last five to seven years; UPENDRA): (a) to (e). Three low power and 353 Written Answers VAISAKHA21,1912(SAKA) Written AnswelS 354

(c) the number of criminal cases for (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. There were com- which trial has been completed and decision plaints that the Customs Retail Shop was not to be taken before the expiry of nine years seHing goods on 'First come First served' after the occurrence of the aHeged offence? basis. The following steps have since been taken to improve the working of Delhi Cus- THE MINISTER OF STEElANDMINES toms RetaH Shop: AND THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS- TICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) to (c). (i) The staff strength has been The information is being coJlected and will be increased; laid on the Table ot the House. (ii) More space has been provided Sale of Confiscated Consumer Good. for display of goods being of- by Customs Retail Shops in Delhi fered for sale;

8408. SHRI RAM SAGAR (Saidpur): (iii) Surprise visits are made regu- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to larly by the senior officers to state: ensure properfundioning of the Shop; (a) whether the confiscated consumer goods are sold do persons recommended by (iv) The details of the terms being the high officials and not on the basis of first offered for sale and their rates come first serve basis; are being prominently displayed on a Notice Board Q1,#Side the (b} it so, the reasons therefor; Retail Shop.

(c) whether a number of letters were Constitution of Advisory CoInmIItH for received by the Collector of Customs, Delhi, each Nationalised Bank In regard to the functioning of the Customs Retail Shop; and 8409. SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (d) it so, the details thereof and the action taken thereon? (a) whether Government have any proposal to constitute an advisory Commit- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tee for each nationalised bank at the district MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- level; TRI): (a) and (b). Bulk sale of seizedlconfis- cated consumer goods is made approved (b) if not, whether Government propose Co-operative Societies and to State Civil to constitut& any other similar body in order Supplies CorporationslState Co-operative to enable the banks to serve the people more Federations for further sale to bonafide usefully particularly in the matter of providing consumers through Co-operative Societies, loan facilitie$; and Super Bazaars, Sahakari Bhandars etc. Such (c) if so, whether Government propose goods are also offered for sale to Militaryl to appoint local MQmbers of Parliament as PoJiceJPara-Military canteens. A small quan- non-officiat members on such bodies? tity of suchoonsumer goods ara also sold in retail through Customs Retail Shops to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE bonafide consumers on 'First come first MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIlSHAS- served' basis. TAl): (a) to (0). No advisory commiltee has 355 Wntten Answers MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 356 been constituted separately for each natIOn- tourISt spots upto InternatIOnal level dunng alised bank at the dlstnct level However, the current as well as next year, under the lead Bank Scheme a Dlstrtct CoordinatIOn Committee (DCC) consISting (b) If so, the details thereof, State and of representatIVes of banks and Govern- Territory-wISe separately for each year; and ment offICials of the Government development agenctes has been constituted The (c) the actIOn taken thereon? meetings of thIS commIttee whICh are pre- sided by the Dlstnct Canedors are held on a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE quarterly basIS The Commntee reVIews the MINISTRYOFPARllAMENTARY AFFAIRS performance of banks under the Annual AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Credit Plans Including Government spon- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL sored programmes and ensures coordIna- MALIK) (a) to (c) The development of tion between banks and Governmen~ devel- tourtsm IS prtmarllly the responslblltty of the opment agencIes In additIOn, an enlarged State and UnIOn Territory Governments forum of the above committee known as the However, Department of Tourtsm extends District level ReView Commrt1ee (DlRC) finanCial assIstance for strengthening of meets on a half yearly baSIS local Members tourtsm Infrastructure on specifiC proposals of ParhamentIMembers of legIslative As- based on their merits, availability of funds semblies are Invrted to the half yearly meet and Inter-se pnontles 109 of DlRC Savings Schemes Opening of Branches of RBI 8412 SHRI PRATAPRAO B 8410 SHRIR JEEVARATHINAM W,ll BHOSAlE Will the Mlmster of FINANCE be the Mlmster of FINANCE be pleased to state pleased to state whether Government have any proposal to open branches of the Reserve Bank of IndIa (a) whether some finanCial institutIOns In Important citIes In order to streamline the owned/recognised by Government are en- functlOntng of the natlOnahsed banks In the gaged In collectIOn of money through their cItIes of bUSiness centres Itke Colmbatore In varIOus savings schemes. TamIl Nadu? (b) whether some prIVate fInancial insti- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tutIOns are also engaged In collectIOn of MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI ANll SHAS- money through their different savings TRI) Reserve Bank of IndIa has reporteri schemes, and that, at present, It has no proposal under consideratIOn for opening of new branches! (c) If so, the details thereof separately In offICeS In any State In the country respect of financial InstitutIOns owned by Government, financial InstitutIOns remgntsed Development of Tourist Spots by Government and prIVate flnanctallnstrtu- tlOns? 8411 SHAI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSAlE. w,n the MInISter of TOURISM THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE be pleased to state MlNlSTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI ANIL SHAS- TRI)' (a) to (CI' Funds from publIC are (a) whether Government have receIVed collected by the commerCial banks through proposals for the development of some more vanousdeposltschemes Some of the banks 357 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsW9IS 358 have also set up mutual funds through which (b) if so, the details thereof; funds are collected. Apart from the commercial banks, funds from public are also col- (c) whether Government propose to lected by certain Aon-banking non-financial bring out some more attractive savings companies, non-banking financial compa-, schemes for encouragement of small inves- nies, individuals and partnership firms and. tors; residuary non-banking companies through their different savings schemes. Certain (d) if so, the details thereof; public financial institutions like Life Insur- ance Corporation of India. Unit Trust of India (e) whether Government propose to etc. also collect funds from public through he make withdrawal of maturity amount of these mutual funds set up by these institutions. schemes more simple to attract more investors: and Post Office Savings Schemes (f) if so. the details thereof? 8413. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSAlE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased to state. MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRI ANIl SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). Various Savings Schemes (a) whether some savings schemes are available with post offices of the country are available with post offices of the country: as tollows:-

51. Name of Scheme Rate of Interest per annum No

2 3

1 . Post Office Savrngs Account 5_5% (IndividuallGroup accounts)

3%5% (Other accounts)

2_ Post Office Time Deposit

1 Year Account 9.5%

2 Year Account 10%

3 Year Account 10.5%

5 Year Account 11%

3. Post Office Recurring Deposit (5 Yea.r) 11%

4. National Savings Scheme. 1987 11% 359 Written AnswelS MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 360

51. Name of Scheme Rate of Interest per annum No.

2 3

5. Post Office Monthly Income Acoount (6 Year)

6. National Savings Certificates VIII Issue (6 Year) 12%

7. Public Provident Fund (15 Year)

8. Social Security Certificates (10 Year) Investment triples in 10 Years

9. Indira Vikas Patra Investment doubles in 5 Years

10. Kisan Vikas Patra Investment doubles in 5 1f2 years with facility of premature encasement after 2 1 f2 Years.

* Additional bonus at the rate of 10% also payable on maturity.

For 1989-90.

(c) and (d). There is no proposal at chalk out some new fiscal policy; and present to bring out any new small savings scheme. (b) if so, the details thereof?

(e) and (f). The procedural aspects THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE relating to small savings schemes including MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- those regarding withdrawal of maturity TRI): (a) and (b). A new Long Term Fiscal amount are constantly reviewed and im- Policy forthe period 1990-95 is underformu- provements made wherever found neces- lalion. sary. Note Pre•• at Salbonl New Fiscal Policy 8415. SHRI SATY AGOPAL MISRA: 8414. SHAI PAATAPAAO B. SHAI AJOY MUKHO- BHOSALE: PADHYAY: SHAI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Will the Minister of F1NANCE be pleased to state: LO state: (a) the present position in regard to (a) Whether Government propose to setting up of a new note printing Press at 361 Written Answers VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 362

Salboni tn West Bengal; and (h) the steps GO'Ifernment propose to take to balk down any possible move by the (b) the tim. by which it is likely to be commercial banks in turn to pass on the completed? burden to customers?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN1STRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- MINISmV OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- ml): (a) land has been acquired at Salboni. ml): (a) to (e). To facilitate faster clearance of cheques and to improve customer serv- (b) The work is likely to be completed in ice, Reserve Bank of India (RBI) provides about four years. mechanized cheque processing service in the Clearing Houses at Bombay, Delhi, Processing Charges for Cheques Calcutta and Madras. In keeping with the well established practice of sharing costs for 8416. SHRI K.S. RAO: operating the Clearing House by member SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: banks, RBI proposes to recover cheque SHAI P M. SAVEED: processing charges from member banks on SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- a no-profit-no-Ioss basis to ooverthe operat- OAl: ing expenses incurred by it on equipment. infrastructure and other facilities for provid- Will the MInister of FINANCE be pleased ing the service. RBI has further reported that to state: pendmg a final decision about the rate of charges. it has advised banks to make a (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India provision in their accounts for the year ended has decIded to charge commercial bank 31.3.1990 at a tentative rate of 25 paise per processing charges at the rate of 25 paise cheque, outgoing or incoming. processed by per cheque for both incoming and outgoing RBI on their behalf. cheques: The amount likely to be netted by RBI on (b) If so. the reasons therefor; this account win depend on the rate of charges finally fixed and the number of cheques (c) the amount likely to be netted by the processed at the Clearing Houses. Reserve Bank of IndIa on this account: (f) RBI has reported that two commer- (d) whether the commercial banks have cial banks and two foreign banks have writ- been asked to pay these charges with retro- ten to it in this regard. While one bank has spective effect: shown reluctance to pay the charges, the other three banks have requested to lower (e) if so. the details thereof: the rate of charges and to make it effective retrospectively . (t) whether the commercial banks have shown resentment over this decision and (g) RBI has reported that Indian Banks' are reluctant and ur1der strain to pay the Association has not taken up the matter with Charges: it.

(9) wt'tetherthe Indian Banks' Associa- (h) RBI has reported that it has not tion has taken up the matter with the Re- taken any view on the question of passing serve Bank of India: and this burden to customers. 363 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnswelS 364

Guidelines for Regulating Merchant 2. AUTHORISED ACTIVITIES Banking Activities a) Issue management, which will 8417. SHRI K.S. RAO: Will the Minister inter-alia consist of preparation of FINANCE be pleased to state: of prospectus and other information relating 10 the issue, deter- (a) whether Government have recently mining financing structure, tie- issued guidelines for regulating merchant up of financiers and final allot- banking activities; ment andlor refund of the subscription. (b) if so, the details thereof; b) Corporate adviser services re- (c) the objectives behind the issue of lating to the issue. these guidelines and the role of the Security Exchange Board of India under these guide- c) Underwriting. lines; and d} Port1olio management services. (d) the likely impact of the restrictions imposed under these guidelines on the nor- e) Managers, Consultants or Ad- mal capital market operations and also on visers in the Issue. the merchant banking community itself? 3. AUTHORISA TlON CRITERIA THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- All merchant bankers are expected to TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. perform with high standards of integrity and fairness in all their dealings. A code of con- (b) and (c). A copy is given below as a duct for merchant bankers will be prescribed statement. by SEBI. Within this context SEBI's authorisation criteria would take into account mainly (d) The guidelines are expected to be the following: beneficial to the healthy and orderly functioning of the capital market. a) Professional competence.

STATEMENT b) Personnel, their adequacy and quality, and other infrastructure. Guidelines for Merchant Bankers c) Capital adequacy. 1. AUTHORISATION d) Past track record, experience, Any person or body proposing to en- general reputation and fairness gagA in th6 business of merchant banking in all their transactions. would need authorisation by the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) in their 4. TERMS OF AUTHORISATION prescribed format. This will also apply to those presently engaged in merchant bank- . a) All merchant bankers, including ing activity, including as Uanagers, Consult- the existing ones, must obtain ants or Advisers to issues. the authorisation from SEBI 365 Written Answers VAtSAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 366

within three months from the h) To ensure a direct stake of mer- issue of these guidelines. SEBI chant banker(s) in the issue may extend this period at its managed by them, lead manag- disdetion by a maximum ofthree ers would be required to accept a more months. minimum 5 percent underwriting obligation in the issue subject to b) All merchant bankers must have a ceiling. Details in this regard a minimum net worth of As. one will be prescribed by SEBI. crore. i) lead managers/merchant bank- c) The authorisation will be for an ers would be responsible for initial period 01 'hree years. ensur\ng timely refunds and allotment of securities to the inves- d) SEBI may collect from the mer- tors. chant bankers an mitial authorisation fee. an annual fee and a j) The involvement of merchant renewal fee. bankers in an issue should continue at leasttill the completion of e) All issues should be managed by essential follow-up steps, which at least one authorised merchant must include listing of the instru- banker. functionig as the sole ment. and despatch of certifi- manager or the lead manager. cates/refunds. Even if many of Ordinarily. not more than two these activities are handled by merchant bankers should be other intermediaries, merchant associated as lead managers bankers shall be responsible for advisers and consultants to a ensuringthatthese agenciesfuHil public issue. In Issues of over their functions. and must enable Rs. 100crores. thenumbercouid themselves to discharge this go upto maximum of four. responsibility through suitable agreements with the issuer f) The specific responsibilities of company. each lead manager must be submitted to SEBI prior to the k) The merchant banker shall make Issue. available to SEBI such information, documents, returns and g) While Directors. pr~moters and reports as may be prescribed. every person who authorises the and called for. issue of prospectus. shall bear full responsibility forthe contents I) SEBI shall prepare and prescribe of the prospectus. merchant a Code of Conduct for merchant bankers shall exercise due dili- bankers. which they should gence independently verifying adhere to. the contents of the prospectus and reasonableness ofthe views m) SEBI may suspend/cancel the expressed therein. The merchant authorisation of merchant bank- bankers ot the issue shall certii'1 e~ iOf suitabte dUfations in case to this effect to SEBI. of violations of the Guidelines. 367 Written Answprs MAY 11, 1990 Wnlten Answers 368

All such ca99s wilt be brought to (c) the criteria adopled for the financing the notice of CCI. Relevant de- of the projects and extending the short-term tails in this regard would be and medium term credit? WOf1(ed out by SEBI. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE n) Nothing in these guidelines shall MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- exempt the company, its func- TAl): (a) and (b). National Bank for Agricul- tionaries, or other from any re- ture and Rural Development (NABARD) has sponsibilty placed on them by reported that a sum of Rs. 19,943lakhs has any existing law. regulation, been tentatively fixed under the schematic guidelines or conditions imposed lending for Andhra Pradesh for the year with any s~nctions. 1990-91. The purpose-wise details are given in the Statement below. Subsidy to Regional Rural Banks NABARD has not fixed any target for 8418. SHAIK.S.AAO: Will the Minister providing refinance to State Cooperative of FINANCE be pleased to state the approxi- Banks (SCBs) and Regional Rural Banks m;:tt€' amount involved for subsidising the (RRBs) for financing various short term regional rural banks per annum? purposes and Medium Term (MT) loans for sporadic lending for the year 1990-91 in the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE State of Andhra Pradesh. Depending on the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- lending programme of SCBs and RRBs for TRI): National Bank for Agriculture and financing these purposes, necessary finance Rural Development (NABARD) have re- Will be provided. ported that there is no scheme of subsidising Regional Aural Banks. However, to (c) The refinance from NABARD to str€,ngthen their financial base, the share SeBs on behaH of Central Cooperative Banks capital of RRBs is being ,ncreased from Rs. (CCSs) for financing short term agriculture 25 lakhs to Rs. 1 crOfe in a phased manner. lendings is provided only if the overdues of the CCBs do not exceed 60 per cent of the NABARD Aid For Projects in Andnra demand. Limits are sanctioned to the extent Pradesh of the difference between realistic lending programme and minimum involvementfixed 8419. SHRIK. S. RAO:WilltheMinrster by NABARD. Drawals on the credit limits are of FINANCE be pleased to state: allowed subject to availability of non-overdue cover, compliance with the norms of (a) the details of the agrICulture and financing small farmers, seasonality disci- non-farm sector in Andhra Pradesh pro- pline and compliance with minimum involve- posed to be financed by the National Bank ment stipulation. for Agriculture and Rural Development dur- In the case of medium term agricultural ing the year 1990-91 indicating the amounts loans for sporadic lending 100% refinance is to be ~pent on e:Jch project: provided to SCBs on behalf of those CCBs whose overdues do not exceed 60% of (b) the break-up of the short-term and demand. Such refinance is provided for a medium-term credit to be extended ,n agri- period from 3 to 7 years depending·on the culturp, and non-farm areas like sencuhurt:, types of investments proposed to be carried rJ'V'·lnd tarming. water ma'1agemenl -lnd out and theuseful period of assets proposed 11;:,11 culture In Andhra Pradesh: and to be acquired. 369 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 370

STATEIENT

Purposs-wise allopJtions 1011990-91 under Agriculture, Allied Activities and Non-Farm Sector in Andhra PracI9sh

Purposes Allocations (Rs. in /alchs)

Minor Irrigation 4240

State Electricity tSOardlAural Electrification Corporation 2800

land Development 150

Farm Mechanisation 2520

Dry land Farming 80

Plantation/Horticulture 1130

Dairy Development 510

Fisheries 720

StoragelMarket Yard 50

Forestry 280

8iogas 170

Poultry Farming 1750

SheeplgoatlPiggery 300

Integrated Rural Development Programme 3323

Others 920

Non-Farm Sector 1000

Total 19943

Allocation of Fund for Development of (a) whether Government have made •AJanta and Ellora Cav .. any provision for allocatien of fund for the expansion of tourism at Ajanta and Ellora 8420. OR. VENKATESH KABDE: Will caves during 1990-91 and Eighth Five Year the Minister of TOURISM be pfeased to Plan: state: (b) if so, the details thereof; and 371 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Wtiten Ans... 372

(c) if not, the reasons therefor? announced recently. The recovery performance of public sector banks in agriculture THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dues are available, at present upto June, MINISTRY OF PARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS 1989 only. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL' [Translation} MALIK): (a) to (c). The Eighth Five Year Plan' has not yet been finalised. Development of Incr.... In Range of Low Power tourism is primarily the responsibility of the Transmitter In Alrnora, U.P. State Govemments. Howeve" no proposal has been received from the State Govern- 8422. SHRI HARJSH RAWAT: WiDths ment in this regard for the year 1990-91. Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: Effect of Proposal for Waiver of Bank Loans on Recovery of Loans (a) whether Government propose to increase the range of the low power trans- 8421. SHRI MUllAPPAllY RAMA- mitter set up at Alm'bra in Uttar Pradesh; and CHANDRAN: SHRI DllEEP SINGH BHU- (b) if so, the extent thereof and when it RIA: is proposed to be done?

Willthe Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION to state: AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (a) the percentage ofthe recalled loans UPENDRA): (a) and (b). The increase in the in respect of agricultural loans of national- power and consequently the range of the TV ised banks actually recovered during 1988 transmitter functioning at Almora is depend- and 1989; ent upon the availability of adequate resources for this purpose. At present, there is (b) whether the rate of recovery has no approved scheme for augmentation ·of declined since Government's announcement the power of this transmitter. regarding writing of agricultural loans; Funds for Uttar Pradesh for Improving (c) if so, the details thereof; and Its Administrative Machinery

(d) the action proposed to be taken by 8423. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Wil! the Government in this rega~d? Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state:

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether a provision has been made MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANll SHAS- by the Ninth Finance Commission for Uttar TRI): (a> The percentage of recovery to Pradesh for creation of new districts, Tehsils demand of public sector banks in direct and blocks; agriculture advances during the year ending June, 1988 and June, 1989 was 57.2 and (b) if so, the total funds proposed to be 58.1 respectively. given to the State for improving its administrative machinery; (b) to (d). The measures for debt relief for farmers, ;artisans and weavers were (c) whether certain norms have been 373 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21. 1912 (SAKA) Writt." Answers 374 prescri)ed to ensure proper utilisation of on signing of the Agreement. these funds; and Also. a multi-State project, namely Inte- (d) if so, the details in this regar

World Bank Aid to Uttar Pradesh [English]

8424: SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Collections from Direct Taxes Etc. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 8425. SHAI KAlP NATH RAI: Will the (a) the names of various projects of Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Uttar Pradesh which are pending with the World Bank for financial assistance and since (a) the total collections from Direct when these projects are pending; Taxes like Excise and Customs duties, In- come tax etc. during the last three years, (b) whether Government have held year-wise; talks with World Bank for getting approval of financial assis';ance for these projects: and (b) how much of the above was realsied (c) if so, the time by which these projects from Income tax during that period; and are likely to be cleared? (c) the percentage of tax realised from THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the salaried class to the total tax realized, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANll SHAS- year-wise during the last three years? TRI): (a) to (c). A multi-State Technician Education Project, covering 8 States includ- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ing Uttar Pradesh, has been negotiated with MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANll SHAS- and approved by the Board of the World TRI): (a) and (b). The total collections under Bank on 1.5.1990 for an assistance of $ principal heads of taxation for the last three 260.00 million. The project will be operative years are as follows:

(Rs. in Ct0r9S) 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 (Accounts) (Accounts) (Accounts)

Corporation Tax 3160 3433 4407

Income Tax 2879 3192 4237

Customs "415 '3702 15805 375 wnWen AnsW81S MAY 11,1990 Wntten An• ..,. 376

(Rs. in CtOIfIS) 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 (Accounts) (Accounts) (Accounts)

Union Excise Duty 14470 16426 18841

31984 36753 43290

(c) Years Tax CoNected from P8fCfHJtage salaried class (%) (Rs. in cl'of9s)

1986-87 467.59 1.46

1987-88 658.22 1.79

1988-89 762.62 . 1.76

Income Tax Raids this regard.

8426. SHRIMA n BASAVA RAJES- (b) and (c). 112 searches were \::On- WARI: ducted in January, 1990. These searches SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJ: resulted in seizure of cash of Rs.69.93lakhs and other assets of estimated value of Rs. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 703.63 lakhs. to state: Study by lOBI for RehabllHatlon of SIck (a) whether Union Government have companle. decided to step up the Income-tax raids; 8427. SHRIMA TI BASAVA RAJES- (b) the number of raids conducted during WARI: the month of January, 1990; and SHRIG.S.BASAVARAJ:

(c) the amount of cash and the value of Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased kinds seized? to state:

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether the Board for Industrial and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Financial Reconstruction had asked the TRI): (a) Under Section 132 of the Inmme- Industrial Development Bank of India (lOBI) tax Ad, if the authority mentioned therein is to prepare a fresh, comprehensive techno- satisfied, in consequence of information in economic study for rehabilitating the sick his possession, that a search is necessary in companies; any particular case, he may issue authorisation of search relating to that case. The (b) if so, whether any report has been Government has not issued any directions in prepared by the IDSI; an Written AnswelS VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Wrift9n AnswelS 378

(c) if 10, the details thereof; and Government have accordingly set up a Committee comprising of Chairman of Tea, (d) the elctent to which Government Coffee and Rubber Boards to examine in 'have accepted its recommendations? depth the feasibility and desirability of the idea. Exploratory survey have already be- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE gun for conversion of marginal areas under MlNISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- coffee to other plantation crops. TAl): (a> to (d). The Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) has reported As the sUrveys are in the initial stage, it that it has not asked toBI to prepare any is not possible to indicate the exact extent to generallcomprehensive techno-economic which such diversions can raducethe rubber study for rehabilitation of sick companies. import bill. However, in individual cases before the BIFR, as per the sick Industrial Companies (Spe- Fir. Protection System In UC Praml... cial Provisions) Act, 1985, it may ask any operating agency, inctuding lOBI, to prepare 8429. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASEKHARA a rehabilitation scheme for that company. MURTHY: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: DIversion of Marginal Land under Coff.. CuIIY.tlon to Rubber Plantation (a) whether buildings and premises of the Life Insurance Corporation of India (lIC) 8428. SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJES- have adequate fire fighting arrangements WARI: Wit! the Minister of COMMERCE be including fire protection doors and windows pleased to state: to avoid fire accidents;

(a) whether his. Ministry propose to (b) if so, the details thereof; and divert marginal land at present under coffee cultivation to be brought under rubber plan- (c) if not, the action proposed to be tation: taken in this regard?

(b) ~ so, the details thereof; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- (c) to what extent, it will reduce the TAl): (a) Yes, Sir. import bill? (b) lIC, before constructing their buildings all over the country. obtains sanction! THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE approval of all local authorities including fire MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- authorities. As such, lie buildings in general ANGll SHREEOHARAN): (a) to (c): On are adequately equipped to take care of tire account of global surplus production. stag- hazards. AllllC buildings are provided with nant domestic consumption and declining fire protection measures as required by the international prices, the Working Group on local fire authorities. For old buildings. im- Plantation Crops set up by the Planning provements suggested by fire authorities Commission had suggested stoppage of are implemented in accordance with fire further expansion of coffde cultivation and safety rules. diversion of marginal areas under coffee to rubber or tea as may be appropriate. (c) Does not arise. 379 Written AnswelS MAY 11,1990 . Written AnswelS 380

Companies with foreign Majority THE DEPUlY MINISTER IN THE Ownership MINISTAYOFANANCE (SHRIANllSHAS- TAl): (a) to (c). The number of FERA 8430. SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: Will companies i.e. with more than 40% foreign the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: equity ~ing; partnership concerns and Branches as on 30th April, 1990 was 94. A (a) the number of companies with list of such companies is given below as a foreign majority ownership in the country; Statement. Such companies are normally allowed to invest in certain priority indus- (b) the detaijs of oompanies as on 30th tries. in predominantly export oriented in- April, 1990 havi~g more than 40 per cent dustries, or in activities invoMng sophisti- shares owned by foreigners; and cated technology not available in the country. Thes~ companies are subject to specific (c) the policy of Government in respect provisions of FERA, 1973, apart from being of these foreign majority oompanies func- subject to the provision of various Acts tioning in the country? . applicable to other companies. 381 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 382

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[ Translation] DISTRICT NO. OF UNITS CLOSED

Sick Units in Uttar Pradesh Agra

8431. SHRISANTOSHKUMARGANG~ Bahrich 91 WAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state' Barabanki

(a) whether some small scale indus- Bareilly 1 tries have been identified in Uttar Pradesh which have been closed due to financial and Basti 180 other difficulties: Dehradun 38 (b) if so, the number thereof, distrid- wise: Faizabad

(c) the number of such Industries in Ghazipur Bareilly diviSion in Uttar Pradesh which have been declared Sick at dlstnct level: Gonda 40

Gorakpur 131 (d) whether any scheme is under the consideration to revive the said sick units or Jaunpur 51 whether any suggestions have been received in this regard: and Lakshimpur 158

(e) if so, the action being taken in thiS Lucknow 60 regard? Mathura 111

THE DEPUTY Mit ISTER IN THE Meerut 594 MINISTRY OF FINANCE . :;HRIANILSHAS- TAl): (a) tCl (e). RBI has ·.;sported that under Mirzapur 59 the present Data Reporting System, banks do not collect data in respect of SSI units Moradabad 300 which are closed, etc. Muzaffar Nagar 238

According to the information furnished Pilibhit 102 by the Industrial Development Bank of India (1081). Director of Industries, Uttar Pradesh Rampur 152 had under taken a sample survey of small scale industries in various district of U. P. to Shahjahanpur ascertain the number of units closed (such closure being due to various factors). The Sitapur .19 District-wise number of closed units as re- vealed by the survey is as follows: Sultanpur 16 VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 406

Tehri Garwal 1 (c) if so, the steps taken by Government to telecast historical films? UttarKashi 22 THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Varanasi 56 ANOBROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Ghaziabad 105 UPENORA): (a) The feature films telecast by Doordarshan have a mix of social, histori- There were 21 sick units as on March cat patriotic and related themes presented in 31, 1990 in the Bareifly division. The director an entertaining manner. of Industries, UP is reported to have issued a comprehensive circular in March. 1990 to (b) and (c). Dooroarshan has been concerned offICeS outlining the approach for showing historical films from time to time and rehabilitation of the sick units would continue to do so as and when good films are available. RBI has already issued detailed guidelines for rehabilitation of Sick SSI units 10 an Civil Writ Petitions in Delhi and Patna scheduled commercial banks emphasising High Courts inter-alia the need for detection of incipient sickness and taking ot remedial measures. 8433. SHRI OHARMESH PRASAD They have also suggested the measures VARMA: Win the Minister of LAW AND viability norms and parameters for providing JUSTICE be pleased to state: reJiefs 'concP.Ssions, to potentially viable sick 5S1 units. (a) the number of civil writ petitions pending during 1988 and 1989 on service 10BI(now SIOBI) also has refinance matters in the Delhi and Patna High courts; Scheme for ertending rehabilitation assis- and tance to sick SSI units through banks and State level Financial Institutions. Under (b) the steps Government proposed for National Equity Fund Set up in August. 1987. expeditious disposals thereof?' IDBI (now SIDBI) provides equity type of support upto Rs. 75.0001- for rehabilitation of THE MlNlSTEROFSTEElANDMINES potentially viable sick units in SSI sedor. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The [£ngish) pendency of civil writ petitions on service matters was as follows:- Feature Aim Telecast by Delli Door- darshan Delhi Patna

8432. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA 1988 3072 4439 RAJE: Wil the Minister of INFORMATON AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 1989 3507 4989 (upto 30.6.89) (3) the types of feature films being telecast by Delhi Ooordarshan aJrrently: (b) Besides increasing the Judges strength, various other steps lite grouping of (b) whether the number of historical eases involving common question of law. films telecast is very Insignificant: and constitution of special benches etc. have 407 Written Answers MAY 11, 1990 Written Answers 408 been taken to reduce overall pendency of Berhampur, Jaipur town, Binja-Khetna, a cases in High courts. A Committee of 3 Chief tourist spot and on Puri-Konark marine drive Justices of High Courts has been constituted road during the current year. by the Government in January. 1989 to study the problem of arrears in courts and to sug- (d) if so, the details thereof; and gest remedial measures. (e) if not, the reasons therefor? Exploitation of Chrome Ore THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 8434. SHRIGOPI NATHGAJAPATHI: MINISTRYOFPARUAMENTARY AFFAIRS Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- plp:lsed to state: TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MAUK): (a) As per information received from (a) whether chrome are has been con- the Government of Orissa, the number of sidered as a strategic mineral In the public hotels set up in the State during the lastthree sector: and years is furnished below:-

(b) if so. the policy of Government with Year No. of Hotels regard to the exploitation of this mineral? 1987- 7 THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE 1988 36 (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) No. Sir. 1989 18 (b) Does not anse. From pre-page Setting up of Hotels/Motels in Orissa (b), (c), (d) and (e). Government does 8435. SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPA- not oonstruct hotels nor provide any financial THI: assistance for setting up hotels/motels. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: The development of Tourism is primar- Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased ily the responsibility of the State Govern- to state: ments. However, the Ministry of Tourism in association with the Ministry of Surface (a) the number of hotels/motels set up Transport have a scheme for the develop- in Orissa dunng the last three years, divi- ment of Passenger-Oriented Wayside sion-wise: Amenities on National Highways. The Minis- try of Surface Transport and Deptt. of Tour- (b) whether Government have any plan ism have already sanctioned Rs. 20.281akhs to set up more hotels/motels in the State and Rs;, 7.27 lakhs for the construction of during 1990-91: wayside·amenities on National Highway No. Sat Rameshwar. tc) whether Government would provide financial assistance to the State Govern- The State Government does not have ment to set up more hotels/motes beside the any proposal to set up hotel in Jaipur. How- National Highways particularly on National ever, the Orissa Development Corporation Highway No.5 between Bhubaneswar and has set up 16 rooms accommodation at 409 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 410

Jajpur in 1985. In addition to this there are 1991 As Tourism Year two hotels in the private sector. 8437. SHRI Y. S. RAJA SEKHAR Trade Relation with Bangladesh REDDY: Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state: 8436. SHRIGOPI NATHGAJAPATHI~ Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (a) whether Union Government have to state· decided to observe 1991 as the year of tourism; (a) whether Government are taking steps to improve trade relations with Bangla- (b) if so, the number of visitors likely to dE\sh: visit during this year, State-wise: and

(b) If so, the different Items now being (c) the steps being taken to augment exported to and Imported therefrom; and the infrastructure facilities?

(c) the new areas Identified for expan- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sIOn of bilateral trade? MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGH.. SHREEDHARAN)· (a) Yes, Sir (b) It is difficult to assess number of visrtors likely to visit during the year State- wise (b) Malor Items now being exported from India to Bangladesh Include frurt and (c) Extension to 18 existing circuits vegrtabies, coal. processed minerals, chemi- have been identified for promotion during cals and pharmaceuticals, engineering the year in consultation with State Govern- goods, cotton yarn and fabrICS. Major items ments and industry. On specific recommen- being Imported from Bangladesh Include dations received from State Governments, news-pnnt. fertilizers and organic chemi- financial assistance is extended to them to cals augment tourism infrastructure facilities, keeping 10 view the availability of funds.

(c) Both Sides aie taking steps to ex- Setting up of a Hotel with Hong Kong pand bilateral trade. Possibilities of setting Based Group CotIaboration up of Joint Ventures with by back arrangements In Bangladesh are being considered. 8438. SHRI Y. S. RAJA SEKHAR STC and Trading Corporation of Bangla- REDDY: Will the Minister of TOURISM be desh are considering to enter mto Tradmg pleased to state: Corporation of Bangl::ldesh are conSidering to pnter into arrangements for exchal1ge of various commodities. FICCI and their (a) whether Mandarin Oriental Hotel counter-pRrts have already set up a Jomt Group of Hong Kong has been permitted or BUSiness council to exchange information seHing up a hotel in New Delhi in collabora- relating to expanSIOn of trade relations. tion with Modi Overseas Investment ltd.: 411 Written AnswelS MAY 11, 1990 Wrlten Answers 412

(b) if so, the details thereof: and Cc) i nm. the reasons therefor; and

(e) the reason for allowing yet another (d) how Government propose 10 sale- hotel in Delhi? guard the interests of aI employees in such circumstances? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISlRYOFPARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MALIK): (a) No. Sir. MINISTAYOFANANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- TAl): (a) The Government issued orders on (b) and (cl. Does not arise. 27.5.1988 that employees who desire to switch over to revised scales of pay from the Cess on Tea date of increment{s) falling after 1.1.86 but not !ater than 31.12.87 may exercise their 8439. SHRI Y. S. RAJA SEKHAR options by 31.8.1988. All the Ministries and REDDY: Will the Minister of COMMERCE Departments were required to bring the be pleased to state: contents of these orders to the notice of aU concerned expeditiously so that the need for (a) whether Government proposed to extending the date may not arise. The actual raIse cess on tea and to create a fund out of position regarding circulation of these orders the enhanced collection for replantation of by various Ministries is not centrally avail- gardens: and able.

(b) if so. the details thereof? (b) to (d). The Government has already allowed sufficient time to exercise the 0p- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion. Presently there is no proposal to pro- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- vide another opportunity or to extend the ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): tal and (b). Yes. date for exercising option. SIr. A proposal is under consideration of the Government. [ Trans/alion}

Option for pay Fixation Publication of Books,. Articles During Tenure of Former Presidents, Prime 8440. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Ministers and .nisters Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleasp"". to state: 8441. SHRI BRLI SHUSHAN TIWARI: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (a) whether all the Government Ser- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: vants could not exercise option in the matter of fixation of pay by 31 August. 1988 in the (a) the agency having the copyright for absence of non-circulation of instructicns to ihe material released during the regime of all employees: former Prime Ministers, Ministers and former Presidents or by their offices; and (b) if so. the details of steps taken to provide another opportunity to such employ- (b) the details of articles, books, pub- ees: lished during the tenure of former Presi- 413 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 414 dents. former Prime Ministers and Ministers pointed out that one of the factors underlying by the Publication Division and the details of inflation was disproportionate and persistent such material published by other publish- growth in money supply with the public (MW) ers? last year. At 19.4 per cent this was the highest since 1978-79 when the expansion THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION· was 21.2 per cent. The very high rate of AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF monetary expansion reflects the expansion PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. in net RBI credit to the government in 1989- UPENDRA): (a) According to legal advice 90.This has contributed significantly to infla- available. subject to any agreement to the tion. given the large overhang of liquidity, it is contrary. the Government of India is the first necessary, according to the RBI, to bring owner of the copyright in the manuscript of about a sharp break in inflationary expecta- publIC speecheslwrltings made by the Presi- tion. dentslPnme Ministers and Ministers. The above analysis of the price situ- (b) Selected speeches and writings of ation by the RBI is In line with the analysis President/Prime Minister are brought out by contained in the Report of the Economic PublICations DIVISIOn. while there IS no such Advisory Council submitted to the Govern- practice In the case of speecheslWritmgs of ment and the pre-Budget Economic Survey Ministers. Biographies of eminent personali- for 1989-90 and has been kept in view in the ties. Including those of former Ministers are formulation of the 1990-91 budget. The also brought out by Publications DiviSion. Government is following a multi-pronged Details of such matenal published by other policy to curb effective demand through strict publishers are not kept by Government. fiscal and monetary discipline, supply side measures and steps to check inflationary [Eng/ish] expectations.

Checking Inflation The RBI in their credit policy for the first half of 1990-91 has therefore, inter alia, 8442. SHRI UTIAM RATHOD: Will the increased the Statutory Liquidity Ratio(SIR) Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: from 38 per cent to 3805 per cent of net demand and time liabilities effective fro (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India September 22, 1990. Further, SIR of 25 per has gone into the causes of rising inflation cent in respect of non-resident (external and suggested any measures to curb the rupee account) and foreign currenc' (t.n same: account) is also being raised to 30 pE. ~er.t effective from 28th July, 1990. (b) if so. the details thereof: and Use of "super 301" by USA Against (c) whether Government have drawn Drug Imports from India up any programme for implementation of these measures? 8443. SHRI NARSINGRAO SURYA- WANSHI: Will the Minister of COMMERCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGll SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). the (a) whether the US administration is Reserve Bank of India while outlining the using the uS uper 301" section of its omnibus credit policy for the first haH of 1990-91 has Trade Act to call for for improved protection 415 WriNen Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnswelS 416 for the products of the US drugs and the (c) to what ex "nt, it is more in compari- pharmaceutICals Industry against the back- son to the exports In 1989·90? ground of the Act's wIde ranging retaliatory powers to block Import and/or collect heavy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE damages from those unauthorlsely uSing US MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- patents, and ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). The Gem and Jewellery Export PromotIOn Coun- (b) If so, Govern me nt's reactIon the reto? Cil (GJEPC) has made a prehminary projection that exports from the sector may be of THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND the order of about Rs. 7,000/- crores subject TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU)' to favourable trading conditions. The provi- (a) and (b) Patents like other Intellectual SIOnal export performance during 1989-90 property rights are covered by Super 301 was Rs , 5,444/- Crores prOVISIon of the US OmnIbus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988 ThIs law re- Conference on Information and Cine- qUires the US Trade Representative to Iden- matography tify those foreIgn countrres denYing protec- tIon of Intellectual property rrgh:s and market 8445. SHRI P NARSA REDDY: access to US firms re-Iylng on such protec- SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE tIon, and determine WhiCh of those countries PATIL' are "Priority countries" In 1989 and 1990 the US Trade Representative did not IdentIfy Will the MInister of INFORMATiON AND and country as a priority country and there- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: fore, no investigation was commenced against any country Howeve,. the US Trade (a) whether a two day semmar of Representative has placed India on a prlorrty InformatIon Secretaries and directors and watch list and had called for changes In India 20th conference of State MInister of Informa- law IncludIng those relating to patent protection and cinematography were held recently tton In New Deihl,

Governmert's reaction which has been (b) If so, the sahent features of the conveyed to the US authOrities In that ItS law diSCUSSion and the deCISIOns arrived at, If provide adequate prctE>c1lun for patents any.

Export Target Fixed by Jewellery (C) whether Government have felt the Export Promotion Council need for close Interaction between Union Government and States and agencies at the 8444 SHRle S BASAVARAJ Willthe grassroot level to formulate future informa- Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to tion pohcles, state

(a) whether the Gems and Jewellery (d) whether there IS any proposalto use Export Promotion CounCil has set up an the made effectively for the tra.,sfer of tech- ambitiOUS export target for 1990-91 nology In agrICulture and rural development In partIcular, and (b) If so, the target set up for 1990-91, and (e) If so, the details thereof? 417 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSW61S 418

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION accords a high priority to the caomletion of AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTEROF the on-going projects especially the- estab- PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHR P. lishment of TV Studio Centres at the State UPENDRA): (a) Yes, Sir. Capitals. It is further urged that where the Studios have aJready been constructed and (b) A copy of the recommendations' equipment installed, immediate steps may adopted in the Conference containing the be taken to fill up the posts so as to make sahent features of the discussions is given in them operational. the Statement below: 4. The State Governments will ensure (c) Yes, S,r. that requisite infrastructural facilities like supply of power and water, construction of (d) and (e). The Media is being utilised approach roads to the project sites, etc. are for Information and publicity of nationally made available to Door.darshan and AIR accepted themes In varIOus languages. expeditiously ., Thpse also Include programmes on agncul- tUfP and rural development apart from other AIRlOoordarshan installations being of Issues like health, family welfare. literacy highly sensitive nature, make it imperative ptc that the State Governments provide, adequate security arrangements for their pro- STATEMENT tection.

Recommendations of the Meeting of State 5. The Conference recommends that Secretanes'Directors of Information and the country wide deployment of TV sets for Cmematography held on 16-17 April, 1990 community viewing should be made under a centrally sponsored plan scheme. AIR/Doordarshan 6. There is an urgent need to strengthen ,. The Prasar Bharatl Bill IS recom- transmission facilities of both AIR and Door- mended for adoption. It may, however, be darshan especially in border areas. npressary to provide for an appropriate Insti- tu!:onal arrangement for a sUitable interac- 7. There is a strong need for a closer tion between the CentretState Governments and more meaningful interaction between and the Corporation. This may be taken care Akashvani and Ooordarshan and the State of while framing the rules and regulations Governments on a continuing basis for more under the Act. effective projection of developmental activities In the States. The IS a need to reward clause 190fthe 8111 to remove any possibility of gevernmen- - 8. It is considered imperative for Door- tal control of the actiVities of the CorporatIOn. darshan and Akashvani to formulate a detailed and well thought our strategy for in- 2 Major CitieS of the States may be creased utilisation of the local and amateur provided With a second channel with pro- talent. This will also resuh in considerable gramme production facilities on a priority reduction of operational costs. baSIS during the first half of the Vlllth Five "om Plan. 9. An integrated approach to the production plans of the Films Division and 3. It IS Imperative that Doordarshan Doordarshan shall be attempted as this will 419 Written Answers MAY 11.1990 Written Answers 420

make for more cost effective and better 15. Interartion between PIS officers utilisation of available production capacity and those of State Information Department and expertise. would further improve the dissemination of information as well as coverages. There is Prinlliedia need for prompt single point. fixed time brief- ings to the press during communal distur- 10. h is desirable to have uniformity in bances etc. to prevent of the appearance of the norms for empanelment of newspapers conflicting reports in the press. for advertisement and rates offered by DAVP and the State Governments. There is need 16. State Governments should actively for sharing information in this regard. h would part~e and assist in the programmes of be helpful if the norms followed by DAVP and the field Publicity Units. They should also co- the formula on which advertisement rates operate and participate in the exhibitions are fixed by DAVP can be made available to mounted by DAVP. the State Governments. Films 11. The circulations claims of newspapers, particularly small ones, have an impor- 17. Ail the 22 recommendations con- tant bearing on advertisement rates and cerning the State GovernmentslUnion Teni- newsprint. A mechanism for arriving at cor- tory Administrations. made by the Commit- reet circulation figures of newspapers is tee (in Film Industry. in its report submitted to required to be evolved and concerted action the Government in January 1990. may be of State Governments and Central Govern- accepted for adoption and implementation.. ment for verifir..ation of Circulation is recommended. The assistance of the State Govts. 18. Anti-video piracy laws. particularly and district administration will be of impor- the relevant provisions of the Cinemato- tance in this regard. graph Act 1952, CopJright Act 1957~ the Indian Telegraph Ad 1885. Indian Wireless 12. h is necessary to evaluate the Telegraphy Act 1933 etc. should be reviewed impact of publicity materiaVadvertisementi by a small group consisting of representa- audio-visual material, campaigns, etc. of tives of the Central Government and State DAVP as well as State Governments. There Governments. This group may include some is need for some evaluation studies and legal experts also. The group should also go institutions like IIMC can be rommissioned into the question of licensing of video par- for this purpose. Greater stress may be laid lours. video Ibraries. cabkl TV network etc. on designing of compaigns which could be and assignment of rights for home viewing, launched after pretesting. commercial viewing etc. The group will also consider the need for preparing an omnibus 13. The publications brought out by the draft Bill to deal effectivety with video piracy Publications Division are not publicity litera- and infringment of the Copyright Act and the ture and have value as good and popular cinetagraph Ad. books. State governments shouki promote their demand and use. 19. In view of the preoccupation of the police authorities with the maintenance of 14. Press Council 01 India may consider law and order. there is a need for setting up setting up of regional offices so as to enable of separate police cells and special courts for it to handle complaints emanating from vari- enforcement of the relevant laws to curb ous parts of the country. video piracy effectively. 421 Written AnSMHS VAJSAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Wliten AnsMH'S 422

20. The Indian Federation Against film festivals in various parts of the country copyright Theft (INFACn should he\:> the was zcepted'and the State Govts.lUnion police authorities in conducting raids against TerriIory Administrations wit extend an as- unauthorised exhibition of films in video sistance in organising them. parlours. 30. Ch.ildren's films produced by the 21. All State GovernmentsJUnion Terri- Children's Film Society. India should be tory Administrations should enact appr0pri- automatically exempted from the levy of ate legislation providirlQ for licensing condi- entertainment tax and show tax. For chil- tions for video partours on the lines of the dren's films certified as such by the Central Tamil Nadu Act. Board of Rim Certification, this exemption wilfbe wiled particularfyforfilm shows meant 22. State GovemmentslUnion Territory only for children. Administrations should stop all infringement of Copyright Act!Cinematograph Act by the 31. All State GovernmentsJUnion T erri- video films shown in buses, hotels, etc. as tory Administrations may provide electricity these are only for home viewing and not tor to cinema theatres and film studios on commercial Viewing. concessional rates, which are normally extended to industries in the backward areas. 23. Byelaws for building of cinema theatres should be reviewed and emphasis 32. Sales tax on leasing of f~ms and film should be on construction of mini-theatres. equipment may not be levied.

24. Attempts should be made to per- 33. While the formation of a Rim Coun- suade the Cinema Industry to enter into cil has been mooted, it must be darified that contract only for one-time assignment of the body wiD be constitured largely by the copyright for home and rommerClal viewmg. representatives of the film industry and will be self-supporting. Government will accord 25. Byelaws for buildIng of cinema recognition to the Film Council and the major theatres should be reviewed and emphasis expectation from this Council will be a quali- should be on construction of min-theatres. tative improvement in the field of cinema. Care will be taken to see that the functions of 26. The is a need for review of the the Council do not overtap or limit those of existing guidelines for certification of films. the National Fdm Development Corporation. The charter of the Rim Council will, among 27. StateslUnion Territories should give other things. include promotional, advisory more priority to check the incidence of inter- and regulatory functions concerning the film polation in films and exhibition of uncertified industry. films. General 28. Instead of e.mnarking a certain percentage of the Entertainment Tax collec- 34. There is need for greater co-ordina- tions for the development of film Industry, lion in communication effoIts of Central and sufficient encouragement should be given to State Governments and their agencies. The the film industry by providing various incen- Inter Media PWliciIy Co-ordination Commit- .- tives. tees now in existence have not been quite effective. The district level committees have 29. The ooncept d organising regional started functioning only in few districts. The 423 Written AnswelS MAY 11,1990 Written Answers 424 efforts for bringing out greater coord,natIOn (b) Bulk of the basmati rice exports should be further stepped up. have been to Saudi Arabia, U.S.S.R., Ku- wait, U.A.E., U.K., and Oman. 35. There IS need for extending training facilities covenng all aspects of mass com- Export of Pepper mUnication including JOurnalism by the In- dian Institute of Mass commuOication to all 6447. SHRI K. MURALEEDHARAN' States. While It may not be possible for thp Will the MInister of COMMERCE be pleased liMe to expand Its training programmes to to state' cover all States, It would be desirable If the currICula of varIOus courses are standard- {a) th" present export position of pep- ISed so as to enable unlversrtles, ''1st ltutes per, etc. to adopt them In their regular courses (b) !he status of Indian pepper In Inter- 36. The Interaction between th'? State natlOpal market. and Governments and the Ministry of Informa- tion and Broadcastmg has to be further (c) whether Govemment propose to stepped up. More periodiC conferences. constitute Pepper Board In view of the prob- especially In State Capitals are deSirable lems being faced by pepper cultIvators and Though It IS not possible to have an anr.ual also to Increase the export of pepper? conference In every State, some modalities could be worked out for holding reg,onal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE conferences followed by an annual confer MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ence at Deihl ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) The export of pepper dunng ~989-90 was 36601 M T Export of Basmati Rice valued at As 160 crores

8446. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA (b) Indian pepper IS conSidered better In MURTHY: Will the Minister of COMMERCE quality India's share In world export IS esti- be pleased to state mated at around 24% during 1989-90

(a) the quantity of Basmati nce ex- (c) There IS no proposal to constitute a ported durmg 1989-90 and the foreign ex- Board separately for pepper. change earnings therefrom; and Drug Trafficking by Bangladesh (b) the countnes to which exports were made? 8448. SHRI YADVENDRA DATI: WIll the MInister of FINANCE be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN) (a) According to the Agricultural and Processed Food Prod- (a) whether Bangladesh slaVing ille- ucts Exoort Development Authorrty (APEDA) gally n the country have been caught as the quantity of basmatI nee exported dUring Drug Couriers or Drug Sellers or smugglers; 1989-90 IS provIsIOnally estimated at 3.9 and lakh metric tonnes valued at Rs 404 68 crores (b) If so, the details thereof. State-wise? 425 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 426

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) Accruing to the information avail- TRI): (a) The Staff Inspection Unit of the able with the Narcotics Control Bureau, no Ministry of Finance, which has been in exis- Banglasesh has been arrested in connec- tence since 1964, is continuously engaged tion with drug trafficking during 1989 and in reviewing the staff requirement and staff 1990 (upto 31.3.90). strength of the MinistriestOepartments of the Central Government and their Attached and (b) Does not arise. Subordinate offices and other Organisations thereunder. Study Regarding Staff Requirement! Strength (b) and (c). A Statement indicating the number of Central Government Ministriesl 8449. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- DepartmentOffices reviewed during the past CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of FINANCE 3 years by the Staff Inspection Unit, the be pleased to state. number of posts which were reviewed including the additional demands and the (a) Whether any study has been con- number of posts declared surplus as a result ducted to determine the staff requirement of S.I.U's stufies is given below. l11d staff strength of each MinistrylOepart- ment at the Centre: (d) In addition to the studies conducted (b) whether staff were found to be In by the Staff Inspection U,lit to remove ex- excess In any Mlnlstryl[)epartment; cess staff and to curb addition of unnecessary staff, instructions exist regulating the (c) If so, the details thereof: and creation of new posts. These instructions call for a thorough scrutiny at various levels (d) what steps Government have taken with a view to answer that only such posts as to curb the addition of unnecessary staff in are considered to be absolutely essential Government Departments? and inescapable ar created. 427 Written AnswelS MAY 11. 1990 Wrinen AnSMH'S 428

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Packaging Allowance and Transfer (a) the number mcases d evasion of Grants to Retired Employees Excise duty on fireworks and match box by the various manufacturers in Tamilnadu 8450. SHR1 V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: detected by Government during 1989-90; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to and state: (b) the details of the manufacturers (a) whether Government selVants re- evading Excise duty and the action taken tired during the last three years and settled against them? down in F aridabad of Haryana State over 30 km away from their last Head quarter in Delhi THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE have not been provided any packaging al- MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- lowance and trao5far grants: TRI): (a) and (b). The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the (b) if so, the reasons therefor: and House.

(c) whether Government propose to review the relevant rules ;n order to give the above benefits to Government selVant settling in Faridabad after retirement from serv- 12.00 hrs. ice in Delhi as in case of Government servant settling In any other State? [Eng/ish]

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ( Interruptions) MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). As per existing rules, no SHRI VASANT SATHE (Wardha): Sir, Packing Allowance and Transfer Grant are may I have a word? admissible to Central Govt. Employees for settling down at the last station of duty. MR. SPEAKER: Yes. including such of suburban municIPalities. notified areas or cantonments as are con- ( Interruptions) tiguous to the last duty station, where the Government servant was posted immedi- SHRI VASANT SATHE: I Rave already atelybefore hiS retlrf'ment. Since Faridabad, given a notice, as desired by you, under Rule Municipality IS contiguous to the Municipality 184 requesting that all the papers-The other of Deihl. Packing Allowance and Transfer day we had a discussion and there was a Grant are not admissible to Government consensus on it also-connected with the servants. settling down In F::tnd~bad. having Airbus deal should be laid on the Table of the last duty statIOn at Deihl. House. Ths bit-by-bit leakage is neither desirable nor morally and legally correct. I have already moved a motion in this regard. (c) No, Sir. Therefore, I would request you to kindly look into the matter. Excise Duty Evasion on Fire Works and Safety Matches MR. SPEAKER: Mr. p.e. Thomas.

8451. SHRIRAMDAS SINGH: Will the SHRI PoCo THOMAS (Mwathupuzha): M::'"lIster of FINANCE be pleased to state: Sir. Pakistan has appealed to all the :\AusJim ,

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nations to support the secessionist move- PROF. VUAY KUMAR MALHOTRA ment and the secessionists in Kashmir. In (Delhi Sadar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a very fact, Pakistan has also decided to send serious matter. I would like that the hon. delegates to all Muslim countries in this Minister of Home Affairs to give an assur- connection. It has also appealed that India ance in the House and make a statement in has a threatening posture against Pakistan this regard. To say 'all right' will not serve any and it is to be taken into account very seri- purpose. liis a very serious matter. If such an ously by other Muslim countries. I would incident took place at one place, tomorrow urge upon the Government to take up this there will be another such incident at some matter seriously and deal with this interna- other place and like this it may spread to tional movement in whatever way deemed to other places. be fit SHRI KALKA DAS (Karol Bagh): Mr. MA. SPEAKER: Mr. Madan l.al Khur- Speaker, Sir, it is really a serious matter. I ana. want that the business of the House should be carried on only after the hon. Minister of [ Translation] Home Affairs makes a statement in this regard. If a person is shot dead only because SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South he has connections with a particular institu- Deihi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Shri Ashok Gupta, tion, what will be the fate of the country? That Secretary of the RS.S and a prominent is why it is a serious matter. B.J.P. activist was shot dead on 9.5.1990 in A!lahabad. It is the second major incident SHRIJANARDAN TIWARI (Siwan): Mr. that took place in Palej in Gujarat It appears Speaker, Sir, people's sentiments are being that some elements are out to assassinate aroused deliberately. (Interruptions) the B.J.P., RS.S and the V.H.P. activists in a planned way and thereby create an atmos- SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Mr. phere in the country which may cause distur- Speaker, Sir, this is the 4th or the 5th incident bance and provocation in the minds of the in a month. The activists of the RS.S. and people. What action does the Government the V.H.P. are being marked as targets. propose to take to check the recurrence of (Interruptions) these incidents? The people who killed ~hri Gupta in Allahabad were also involved in the MR SPEAKER: Please sit down. riots. They are known gundas and anti-social elements. There was no family dispute in (Interruptions) this particular case. They killed Shri Gupta only because he was the Chief of the RS.S. SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS RANA and an activist of the B.J.P. That is why they (Surat): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the storm which shot him dead. I urge the hon. Minister of took place in Gujarat started following the Home Affairs to take action in this regard and assassination of a V.H.P. activist. As such it get this incident investigated through Cen- is a very important matter. (Interruptions) trallntelligence agency, be it the I.B. or the C.B.I. We have definite information thatthere PROF. VIJAYKUMARMALHOTRA: Mr. are some people who wish that such inci- Speaker, Sir. it is a very important matter and dents take place at different places so that it will not be allowed to go like this. Several an atmosphere could be created for causing hon. Ministers of the Government are sitting communal riots throughout the country. here. What is there if the hon. Minister of - 433 WrmenAnswe~ VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Wrmen Answe~ 434

Home Affairs is not present here. Other should come to the House to make a state- Ministers are there and they can very well ment in this regard. (Interruptions) give a reply in this regard. (Interruptions) MA. SPEAKER: Lodhaji, please take SHRI KALKA DAS: Mr. Speaker, Sir, if your seat. Mr. P. Upendra is sitting here. the hon. Minister does not give any reply to' this, we will take it that the Government does (Interruptions) not want to take this matter seriously. Let the Government clarify its stand as to what they SHRI YADVENDRA DATT (Jaunpur): are going to do in this regard. Mr. Speaker, Sir, if Shri Upendra gives an assurance on behalf of the Government; we (Interruptions) will resume our seats. (Interruptions)

MA. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. MA. SPEAKER: First of all, all of you Mr. P. Upendra is siting here. may please sit down. It may be that Shri Upendra would like to say something after all (Interruptions) of you have resumed your seats.

SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): Mr. (Interruptions) Speaker, Sir, you were informed earlier that threat letters had been received in which it SHRI VASANT SATHE (Wardha): Sir, was mentioned that if the action to construct when your own men are at the helm of the Ram Janam-bhoomi temple is not affairs, why such a situation should arise? stopped, everybody will be done away with. (Interruptions) I would like to know from the hon. Minister of Home Affairs whether assaults by anti-na- [English] tional elements on the nationalist forces would continue like this? If so, how will the country THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION be run and what will be the situation? AND BROADCASTING AND MINSTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (Interruptions) UPENDRA): Sir, it is a very unfortunate incident about which I am very sorry. But as MA. SPEAKER: All of you are speaking you know, it is not possible for the Govern- at a time. I am not able to hear anything. All ment to react to each ans every incident of you may, therefore, please sit down and happening in different States all over the speak one by one so that I could also hear country. This particular incident occurred in something. Uttar Pradesh. We will get the report from Uttar Pradesh and we will advise them to (Interruptions) take immediate action.

SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Mr. [ Translation] Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister of Home Affairs should say as to what security ar- SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Mr. rangements are being made. Threats are Speaker, Sir, the Government should say being given to kill B.J.P., A.S.S. and V.H.P. whether a systematic conspiracy is being activists and M.Ps. One after the other kill- hatched in the country in which letters of ings are taking place. What the Government threats for killing are being sent? (Interrup- is doing? The hon. Minister of Home affairs tions) 435 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnswetS 436

SHRI DAU DAYAlJOSHI: Mr. Speaker, hand over the districts of Banda. Allahabad Sir, how long it will run like this. Something and Mirzapur to the army or deploy C.RP.F. must be done in this regard. (Interruptions) in these district so as to eradicate dacoit menace from these districts and help the MR. SPEAKER: Joshi ji. please take people breath free air. your seat. (English] ( Interruptions) SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY SHRI P. UPENDRA: I will convey your (Mangalore): I have given a Calling Atten- feelings. tion Notice regarding the havoc played by the cyclone in Andhra Pradesh and Tamil MR. SPEAKER: Pleasetakeyourseats. Nadu. My information is that the loss caused He is saying that he will convey your senti- to the life and property is more than Rs. 500 ments to the Government. crores. The Central Government has provided only Rs. 87 crores to Andhra Pradesh (interruptions) and about Rs. 30 crores to Rs. 35 crores to Tamil Nadu. This is not at all sufficient. I have SHRI KALKA DAS: We are not satisfied given a Calling Attention Notice and if you with the reply. Still we are resuming our allow it. then the Government will be in a seats at your instance. position to say what they are doing.

SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI Sir. please consider it. (Rewa): Mr. Speaker. Sir. over the past few years. dacoit menace is on the rise in the MR. SPEAKER: I will consider it. border districts of Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh. So tar, more than 100 people have SHRIMATI UMA GAJAPATHI RAJU been killed by decoits. The dacoit gangs of (Visakhapatnam): I want to say somthing on Hanuman, Sitaram and Dadua are very active the same issue. I am sure the House will in Allahabad and Mirzapur districts. In the share in the grief of the mil!ions of people recent past on 24th instant. dacoity was who have been effected by the cyclone. I committed on the houses of 3 families in woukt express to this House that the State Shitalaha village of Rewa district. Women Government has taken timely action to see were raped and an old man named Chandra- that the people are evacuated. From the pal T ewari. aged 60 years and a youngman, 1977 time. when over 10,000 people were Shri Suresh Mishra, aged 35 years were killed, this time, the toll is much less, thanks kidnapped. 15 days have since passed. but to the presence of mind of the State Govern- their whereabouts are not yet known. Ear- ment. lier, a youngman. Shri Virendra Pandey of I would appeal to the Central Govern- village T amare in Rewa district was brutally ment to give us a little more than what they killed. The State Governments of Madhya have given us. What they have given is Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh, despite having totally insufficient, considering the damages their respective police forces are unable to that have happened to rail links, the commu- stamp out decoits. There is an atmosphere nication, to property, to lOss of lives, etc. of lerror and resentment in the area. The Thank you. people are unable to come out of their houses. The situation is very grave. I would like to SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI AU (Kanpur): request the Central Government either to I would like to bring to your notice and to the 437 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 438 notice of all the Ministers who are present in caught his ears and eyes. At the moment, J the House today that there is a company by understand quite reliably that a decision has the name LML Scooters Limited. They have been taken to do away with the DGS&D taken deposits from the public for the pur- thereby rendering nearly 4000 employees chase of scooters upto an astronomical sum jobless and pushing them on to the streets. of Rs. 16 crores. They are neither supplying. Essentially, this is being done, I understand, the scooters nor are they refunding the to facilitate smoother corruption so that the deposits. Several decisions have been taken purchasing of goods for Government De- even by the Supreme Court in favour of the partments is done in the respective Minis- depositors. tries on their own and the appropriate cuts may go to the appropriate Ministers. This is But they are not getting justice. This more unfortunate because this method has Company seems to be working In world of Its been adopted and the employees are being own, with its own laws. I would like the made the victims of unfortunate and illegal Ministry of Finance. the Ministry of Industry planning. I would request the Governmentto and the Ministry of Law to look into this make a statement before they close down or matter and see that public grievances can be mind up DGS&D. They should realise the removed. The owners of thiS Company can cost and implications that it would have on be told that they have also to obey the law of the public exchequer. (Interruptions) the land: they are not abcve the law of the land. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Janardan Tiwari.

[ Translation] ( Interruptions)

SHRI K.D SULTANPURI (Shlmla)' Mr. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND Speaker. Sir. I am happy thai you have given TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): me an opportunity to speak. I would like to It IS very unfortunate that the han. Member submit about Himachal Pradesh where many had not gone through Q. No. 782 listed in roads have been blocked due to heavy rain. today's List of Questions. The Q. No. 782 Many people have died and animals have was with regard to the Supply Department. I perished. I have been informed that yester- would be very grateful if the hon. Member day eight people have died. The crops have can go th roug h the statement which we have been destroyed and apple and other fruits given along WIth tilts questIon. I think if he have rotten. I would like to request the Central goes through that statement, there would be Government to send a team to assess the no r.ecessity for him to ask all these ques- loss iii the State due to rain and provide tions. maximum assIstance to the State Govern- ment so that farmers could get relief. [ Translation]

[English] SHRIJANARDAN TIWARI (Siwan): Mr. Speaker, Sir, during the last three months, SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- decoities have taken place frequently in lem): I am happy to note that the han. Howrah-lucknow Express, Danapur Fast Ministerof Commerce is present inthe House, Passenger and Delhi Express trains. Thou- though J think it must be for the purpose o~ sands 0\ passengeys na\le been \oo\e~ \n \he laying some papers on the Table of the trains by dacoits and it is still continuing. The House. I find that I am not able to get hiS Gondas, mischievous elements and crimi- attentIon yet. Thank God that at last I have nals are indulging in looting In connivance 439 Written Answers MAY 11,1990 Written AnsMHS 440 with the Railway Officials and the local po- SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat): As yOu lice. This is a marriage season and people know, the Centre for Defence of the Human travel with lot of money and ornaments with Rights of the United Nations in a recent them. So they become easy targets of these report has seriously structured on the Gov- criminals. People feel insecure while travel- ernment of India on the violating of Human ling in trains. The Government should there ... Rights in Punjab. Sir, we cannot afford 10 fore make proper arrangement so that these neglect this report as it is claimed 10 be an people may feel secure. associate organisation of the United Na- tions. The report, inter alia. observes that as [English] the Indian authorities failed to contain the militant elements in the Sikh community, SHRI TARIT BARAN TOPOAR (Bar- they are resorting to terrorism of the worst rackpore): I like to bring to the notice of the kind to suppress the brave community and concerned Minister and the House through its just aspirations. All that I can say is, that you that one of the members of the Inquiry this is unwanted, unwarranted, malicious Committee, Mr. Nambiar has issued a state- and also unfounded. It is deliberately in- ment on C-OOT. I am in agreement with Mr. tended to boost up the morale of the terror- Sahte also on thiS point that partial leakage ists now operating in Punjab. h is also noth- and portial information coming out in the ing but an unconcealed espousal of the newspapers leads to confusion. I wantto say causes of secessionism and separatism in that C-OOT organisation is not unneces- our country. sary. That he has not said. But technical equipment and knowledge does not immu- There is another aspect of this kind of nlse anybody to Irregularities and to corrup- broadsides from outside, against our coun- tion even. try. A bill to cut off aid to India unless Am- nesty International or some other organisa- SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: The tions of this kind are allowed to conduct report is not placed on the Table of the independent investigations into the human House. They hide the report. rights violation in Punjab, has been, I think, introduced in the United States Congress I SHRI TARIT BARAN TOPOAR: There- think there is an orchestrated attempt, there fore I like that the Government should come is a diabolical conspiracy te; malign India out with all the details and place them before before the international community. I think the House about this C-DOT episode and that the Government of India should protest specially bec,ause the members of the or- before the Secretary-General of the United ganisation, the engineers and technicians Nations. working in that organisation also led a deputation to the Prime Minister demanding some [Translation1 of their points. Earlier they were placed before the House by me also. I want to say that DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA the entire House should be aware of the (Mandsaur): Hon. Speaker, Sir, I would Oks statement given by Mr. Nambiar that they to draw the attention of the House, through have conducted an inquiry into the activities you, towards the news published today in the of C-OOT and partial leakage or partial reve- Indian Express in which it has been stated lations in the papers led to confusion and th~ in the House of Representatives in United demanded that they are not less patriotic States absurd propaganda has been than anybody. launched on the Kashmir issue and it has 441 Written Answers VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 442

been stated that Khalistan is the only solu- MR. SPEAKER: I assure you that I will tion of the Punjab problem. A Bill has also go through the record. If there are any objec- been presented there by Mr. Dan Brutan tionable remarks, those will be expunged. which provides that no aid should be given to India unless the Government of India allows SHRI VASANT SATHE: We cannot the Amnesty International to enter Punjab allow such remarks togo on record ... (Inter- and conduct a survey there. It s a serious ruptions) matter and also very objectionable. I would like to refer to one more point in this regard. MR. SPEAKER: I have told you that I A senators sub-committee on Kashmir issue will go through the record and expunge all has been set up there. It is our internal matter objectionable remarks. and interference by any other country in this matter is objectionable. t would like the han. Ministertogivean assurance to the House in this regard. What action has the Govern- PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): The ment taken and has the Government raised entire thing should be expunged. It is an anti- any objection to it? national statement. ... (Inte"uptions)

@ SHRI BRtJ SHUSHAN TIWARI THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND (Domariaganj): Mr. Speaker. Sir. an assur- TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): ance was given by this Government to the We also feel that objectionable things should House that the part of the Report of the be expunged. (Interruptions) Thakkar Commission. which was hidden by the previous Government will be placed on MR. SPEAKER: Pleasetakeyourseats. the Table of the House. As the current Ses- I am on my legs. sion is now going to conclude in a few days, ( Interruptions) therefore, I would like to request the Govern- ment, through you, to place that part of the MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Panja larder you Report of the Thakkar Commission on the to go back to your seat. Table of the House at the earliest. (Interruptions) SHRtMATI BtMAL KAUR KHALSA: MR. SPEAKER: You must go back to [English] your seats. You must obey the Speaker's order ... SHRt VASA NT SATHE: Are you allow- ( Interruptions) ing all these things? We all have consideration for the lady Member, but she has mis- MR. SPEAKER: I feel that the entire used this opportunity to say all sorts of th ings. House is agreed that Mrs. Khalsa has ut- Her remarks are anti-national. There is a tered certain objectionable remarks and I limit. Such things should not be allowed to go see the sense of the House. I will expunge all on record. (/nte"uptions) those objectionable remarks. Now please take your seats. Yes, Mr. Janak Raj Gupta ... SHRt P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: This should be expunged ... (Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

@Speech originally delivered in Punjab!. **Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 443 Written Answers MAY 11.1990 Written AnsW91S 444

MR. SPEAKER: Please. Mr. Sathe. ward areas of Jammu and Kashmir. and they are economically backward also. You can ( Interruptions) not guage their poverty. Their condition is so worse that they do not even have two square MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kamal. take your meals a day. I would like that the people of seat. I have given my observation Yes. Mr. Gujar, Bakarwal and Gaddi castes of Jammu Janak Raj Gupta ... and Kashmir should be given the status of Schedule Tribes and special fund may b9 ( Interruptions) earmarked for them so that they cam make progress satisfactorily. MR. SPEAKER: What is this? Mr. Kamal. will you please take your seat? I can SHRI NATHU SINGH (Oausa): Mr. understand your feelings and emotions ... Speaker, Sir, f also support the point raised by him. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Yes. I understand that. Tl:tey have no fight to undermine your feel- SHRI CHEDDI PASWAN (Sasaram): Ings. Please take your seat now ... Mr. Speaker. Sr. after the Janata Oal Gov- ernment came into power in the Centre and ( InterruptIons) in the State of Bihar. incidents of kidnapping are taking place on a large scale in Rohtas SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: I am on a district of Bihar by Congress" in connivance pOint of order, Sir. with the police. After kidnapping lot of money is demanded as ransom and only then they MR. SPEAKER: Which rule has been are released. Instead of actual culprits the violated that you are raising the point of police fabricates innocent people in cases. order? Therefore. I urge the Government through you to take stringent action to ckeck the SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Sir. you incidents of kidnapping. have given your ruling that all objectionable paragraphs or words will be deleted. I would (Interruptions) like to know what are those objectionable paragraphs or words ... (Interruptions) SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT (Nagpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am on a point , MR. SPEAKER: That is no POint or of order. The word Congress ' ...... 'that has order. No discussion on Speaker's ruling. been used, is unparliamentary. It may be Take your seat. Yes, Mr. Janak Raj Gupta. expunged from the proceedings. (Interrup- tions) ( Interrupllons) [English] [ Translation]

SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA (Jammu): SHRI AJIT PANJA (Calcutta North Mr. Speaker. Sir. a numberofGujars. Bakar- East): Sir. is the word ' ...... parliamentary? wals and Gaddis live in the hilly and back- You are allowing them to call the Congress

··Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 445 Papers Laid VAISAKHA 21. 1912 (SAKA) PapslS Laid 446 people •... ; •. Is it parfiamentary? (Interrllp- I beg 10 lay on the Table a ropy d each tions) of the Notification Nos. G.S.R. 146 (E) to G.S.R. 245 (E) (Hindi and English versions) MR. SPEAKER: If it is unparliamentary, published in Gazette of India dated the 20th I will expunge it. March. 1990 together with an explanatory O1emorandum regarding Central Excise duty ( Interruptions) changes and exemptions in the context of Budget Proposals pertaining to Indirect Taxes [ Translation] an~nced by the Finance Minister .in the Lok Sabha on lhe19th March, 1990 under SHRI RAM KRISHAN YADAV sub-section (2) of section 38 of the Central (Azamgarh): Mr. Speaker. Sir. thousands of Excises and Salt Ad., 1944. [placed in Ubrary. workers of Bahujan Samaj Party sat on a See No. LT -809190] 'Oharna' in protest against the burning of jhuggies in Delhi and the Governmenfs Detailed Demands tor Grants of the Inability to fulfil its promises. These people Ministry of Tourism for 1990-91 . are not even getting drinking water. The Government wants them to go back to their THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND homes. I also had a telephonic talk with the TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): concerned officers that thousands of work- I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the ers who were on 'Oharna' were not getting Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi and even drinking water but the concerned offi- English versions) of the Ministry of Tourism cers did not pay any attention towards this for 19~O-91. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- matter. I would like to request that arrange- 810190] ments of drinking water may be made through tankers for the workers of Bahujan Samaj Detailed Demands lor Grants of the Party. I think that water tankers are not being Ministry 01 Steel and lllnes for 1990-91; sent at the instance of the Government Annual Report and Review on the because it wants the 'Dharna' to'be taken off Working of Indian Law institute, New and people to go back to their homes. I would Deihl tor 1988-89 and Statement for like to submit to the Government that ar- delay in laying these papers rangements for drinking water should be made for these people so that they can THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES continue with the 'Dharna·. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRt DINESH GOSWAMI): I beg to lay on the Table--

12.41 hrs. (1) A copy of the Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi and English versions) PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE of the Ministry of Steel and Mines for 1990-91. [Placed in Library. SeA Notifications Under Central Excises No. LT-811J90] and Salt Act, 1944 (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (Hindi and English versions) MINISmV OF FINANCE (SHRIANll SHAS- of the Indian law Institute. ·TRI): On behalf of Prof. Madhu Dandavate. New Delhi, for the year 1988- 447 Papers Laid MAY 11, 1990 Message from Rajya Sabha 448 Const. (S.C.) OIders (Amend.) Bin As passsd by R.S.

89 along with Audited Ac~ 814190] counts. (2) A copy of the Report (Hindi and (ii) A statement (Hindi and Eng~ English versions) of the Comptrol- lish versions) regarding Re~ ler and Auditor General of India for view by the Government on the year ended the 31 st March, the working of the Indian Law 1989 (No.2 of 1990)-Union Gov- Institute, New Delhi, for the ernment (Scientific Departments) year 1988-89. under srtide 151 (1) of the Gonsti- tution. [Placed in Library. 586 No. (3) A statement (Hindi and Eng~ LT-81519O] lish versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers mentioned at (2) above. [Placed in Library. See 12.44 hrs. No. LT-812190] [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chail1

Detailed Demands for Grants of the MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA Ministry of Programme Implementation for 1990-91 [English}

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir,lhaveto MINISTP.Y OF PLANNJNG AND MINISTER report the following message received from OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- the Secretary-Genera! of Rajya Sabha:- GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI BHAGEYGOBAROHAN): I beg to lay on the aln accordance with the provisions of Table a copy of the Detailed Demands for rule 111 of the rules of Procedure and Grants (Hindi and English versions) of the Conduct of Business in Rajya Sabha, Ministry of Programme Implementation for I am directed to enclose a copy of the 1990-91. [Placed in LIbrary. See No. LT- Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Or- 813/90] ders (Amendment) Bill, 1990, which has been passed by the Rajya Sabha Detailed Demands for Grants of the at this sitting held on the 8th May, Ministry of Finance for 1990-91 and 1990." Report of the Comptroller and Auditor- General of India for the year ended 31st March, 1989-Union Govemment (scientific Departments) 12.44 112 hrs.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE CONSTITUTION (SCHEDULED CASTES) MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- ORDERS (AMENDMENT) BILL TRI): I beg to lay on the Table- As passed by RaJya Sabha (1) Acopyofthe Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi and English versions) [English1 of the Ministry of Fmance for 1990- 91. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- SECRETARY GENERAL: Sir, I lay on 449 Business of the House VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Calling Attention Glut 450 in cotton market

the Table the Constitution (Scheduled cise (Goods of Special Importance) Castes) Orders (Amendment) Bill, 1990, as Amendment Bill, 1990. passed by Rajya Sabha. PROF P. J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): Sir, with your permission only I would like to say that the Speaker was kind enough to give a 12.45 hrs. Ruling that those objectionable remarks wi" be expunged. I would only request you that BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE it should be informed to the pres that none of those remarks should appear in the press. [Eng/ish] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That is as THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE per the rules. That goes without saying. MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS (CH. JAGDEEP DHANKHAR): With your permission, Sir, I rise to announce that Government BUSiness in this House during 12.47 hrs. the week commencing Monday, the 14th May, 1990 will consist of:- CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Consideration of any item of Gov- ernment Business carried overfrom Glut in the Cotton Market ResuKlng In today"s Order Paper. Heavy Losses to the Cotton Growers

2. Discussion and Voting on the [English] Demands for Grants under the control of Ministry of:- SHRI KADAMBUR M.R. JANARDHA- NAN (Tirunelveli): I call the attention of the (a) Labour Minister of Textiles to the following matter of urgent public importance and request that (b) WeHare he may make a statement thereon:-

3. Submission to the Vote of the "Glut in the cotton market and conse- House. the outstanding Demand~ quent steep fall in the prices of cotton for Grants (Gengral) 1990-91 resulting in heavy losses to the rotton growers and the steps taken by the 4. Consideration and passing:- Government in regard thereto.·

(a) The Finance Bill, 1990.- THE MINISTER OF TEXTILES AND MINISTER OF FOOD PROCESSING IN- (b) The Gold (Control) Repeal Bill, DUSTRIES (SHRI SHARAD YADA V): The 1990. production of raw cotton during the current cotton season (September, 1989-August, (c) The Union Duties of Excise 1990) has been estimated at the last meet- (Distribution) . Amendment BiH. ing of the Cotton Advisory Board held on 1990. 22.3.1990 at an all time record level of the kapas equivalent of 122 lakh bales. Cotton (d) The Additional Duties of Ex- growers have brought a little over 120 lakh 451 CaRing Attention Glut MAY 11,1990 in cotton mariult 452

[Sh. Sharad Yadav] petitiveness of Indian colton in international markets. bales of cotton to the market by 7.5.1990. This compares with arrivals of about 100 (v) Release of the increased export Iakh bales during the correspor.ding period quota in favour of Cotton Co~ of the previous (;Dtton year (1988-1989). ration of India and State Co- DesPite this large volume of production and operative Federations only so as sale in the market, kapas prices for most to ensure thcrt these agencJ8S varieties have remair.ed near about last year's could sustain purchases at god level for most of the season and currently prices from domestic growers, prices of the main varieties are ruling 13% to thus conveying the benefit of 28% above the minimum support once. It higher international prices to the should be stressed that the minimum price farmers rather than to the trad- itseH is about Rs. 70 to Rs. 90 per quintal ers. higher than in the (ast year for different varieties. There has been no steep fall in The Success of these measures can be general in kapas prices, and the current seen from the fact that despite an aU-time prices for FAa are close to prices in the mid- record bumper crop there has bee:1 virtually season. no need for price support operations this year. Cotton growers were thus able to sell Government has taken several meas- their produce at good prices in the current ures to ensure remunerative prices to conon season. In contrast, during 1985-86, when growers despite bumper production this year. the crop was only 1071akh bales CCI had to The main measures taken by the Govern- procure 12.5 lakh bales at the minimum ment in this regard are as foltows:- support price.

(i) Asking the CCI to step up pur- It may also be mentioned t~ while the chases particular1y of varieties of producflOn has increased, domestic con- kapas whose prices approach sumption has also increased. As a result, in the minimum support level (11.77 case fhe export quota is fully uti~ the lakh bales purchased upto 7.5.90 closing balance at the end of the season is this year as against 5.41 lakh estimated to be only about 20 lakh bales as bales in the cOrresponding pe- agaiast 22 lakh' bales at the end of last riod last year). season. While ensuring remunerative return to the farmer, the interests of the domestic (ii) Enhancement of export quota industry~ particularly, the decentralised sec- from 4.35 lakh bales in Novem- tors of handlooms and powerlooms have ber, 1989 to 13.85 lakh bales by also to be kept in view. In fact, some Honour- 7.5.1990; as against this, a quota able Members had even suggested banning of o~ty 21akh bales was relea~ed cotton expo!ls for this reason. However, the last year. Government has taken a balanced approach keeping in view, the interest of the growers (iii) Removal of the selective credit as well as oonsumers. Thus, the cotton situ- control. ation has been handled extremely carefully and successfully this year and timely and (iv) Reduction of minimum export effective interventions have been made by price in order to improve com- the Government in order to ensure this. 453 Caning Attention Glut VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) in cotton ITIIII1cet 454

SHRI KADAMBUR M.R. JANARDHA- attention motion, but mora calling-attention NAN (Tirunelveli): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, motions can also be taken up in the House. I have read the statement given by the hon. The pertinent portion in rule 197 is: Textiles Minister. I am sorry to say that this new Government has allowed an export of -rhere shaD' be no debate on such 12.51akh bales to 141akh bales. Never in the statement at the time it is made but Indian history, such an huge quantity has each member in whose name the item been exported. I give some details as to stands in the fist of business may, with whether the growers have got good prices the permission of the Speaker, ask a etc. Before I start the CalHng Attention on this classificatory question and the Minis- matter~ I beg to submit to the august House ter shall reply. at the end to an such that when the Father of the Nation Mahatma questions:- Gandhi started the 'Quit India Movement' he gave us the soft material of cotton 'in our If you are interested in having more matters hands and thakli and asked .Us to drive out discussed on the floor of the House under the British from the country. This new Gov- cani(lQ-attention motion, it is better to follow ernment IS taking shelter under the support the rules which are laid down. price. Now, cotton, the agricultural raw material is used cent per cent for industrial Now you called the attention of the purposes. So, we should have a separrue Mini!fter to this particular matter. He has criteria for the support price. We should not madethe statement. If there is any ambiguity have support price for cotton like paddy, in the statement, you can ask for the darifi- wheat and pulses because this is a raw cation. It will help. you, can ask for the clari- material. Our country is a cotton country and fication. It wiN hap you, it will help other this raw material is used 'Cent per cent in Members'aIso and more matters can be Industry. We must see the yarn price corre- taken up. May I request you to please follow sponding to the quality of cotton. When this rule? Gandhiji was alive. cotton seed was used as a fuel. But now you are taking it as addible oil. SHRI KADAMBUR M.R JANARDHA- There is a vast evOlution in the cotton indus- NAN: First of aD, since everything ~ try Taking aU these thjngs into considera- under the pretext of support price, I explain tion, I request the han. Minister to have a what should the support price criteria for separate criteria for fixing the support price cotton. I am coming to the pertinent point. of cotton. You should not take it as an ordi- The reply given to my question from the nary agricultural commodity . Unless and until Ministry is this. I asked tor the figures from you have a separate criteria for fixing the 1987-88 to 1989-90. The cotton price per kg. support price of cotton, the price which you and the corresponding yam price has been fiX now. at Rs. 640 or Rs. 540 according to given by the Ministry. In their reply, they have the qualtty, will not be meaningful and it will also said that their interest is for the power- not fetch any purpose for the customers. I loom and handloom weavers also. So, the quote from the statement: price of cotton per kg. in 1987 As. 12.80. In 1988; it was Rs. 17.81; in 1989, it was As. "The cotton price has not gone down: 16.99. Today it is As. 14.65. (lntem.lplions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Jan- So, according to the reply given by the ardhanan. for the benefit of all the Members Ministry to my question, the price of 20s in the House J would like to read this. If you cotton per kg. today is Rs. 14.6. Correspond- follow thiS thing it will not be only one call- ingly, the 20s yam rate per kg., in 1987 was 455 Calling Attention Glut MAY 11,1990 in cotton maricet 456

[Sh. Kadambur M.R. Janardhi:man] ... Earlie,r, talking to cotton growers of Hissar and Sirsadistricts, he expressed As. 22.69 and the price of cotton was As. dissatisfaction with the Textile Ministry 12.80. In 1988, the yarn rate was As. 32.60 and the Export commissioner at Bom- and the price of cotton was Rs. 17.81. In bay for talking an inexplicably long 1989, the yarn rate wasRs. 35.68 when the time to clear the cotton export propos- cotton price was Rs. 16.99. Today the yarn als. rate is Rs. 39.65-the highest in the period of 4 years. But the cotton price is Rs.14.65. Is The two departments, Mr. Devi Lal it not lower when compared to the previous regretted, conspired to manipulate seasons? Has the benefit of export of so cotton exports so that traders netted much quantity of cotton reached the poor huge profits, while farmers got only the cotton growers? support process given by the Cotton Corporation of India (CCI)." I am giving some examples. Since the Dep- uty-Speaker has given some guidelines, I This is the reply given by the Deputy want to follow those guidelines. The Minister Prime Mnister to the press. has stated that for most of the season, the price of cotton was more or less the same. You have given export quota to Cotton You take J-34 of Punjab cotton. Punjab has Corporation of India because this year the produced the largest quantity of cotton. about crop is a bumper crop. 48 lakhs of bales. nearly 50 percent of our production. Our total production is aoout 1.2 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You will have crore bales. J-34 cotton '11 November-De- to ask for clarification. You cannot read the cember last was Rs. 5800 to Rs. 6300 per speech as such. It is not a debate. candy. In January. when the Government announced the export policy. it shot up and SHRI KADAMBUR M.R. JANARDHA- went up to Rs. 6700 per candy-even to Rs. NAN: The export of 141akhs of bales has not 7500. But in February, it came down to Rs. brought any good to the farmers because in 5800 to Rs. 6000 per candy. In March-Apri!. T ami! Nadu the price is at present is Rs. 655- because there was a panic that Pakistan war 700/- which was Rs. 800-850/- in January. would come, most of the cotton growers In Therefore, they are not getting the correct Punjab and Haryana had sold their cotton at price. throw-away price. It came down to Rs. 4800 to Rs. 5000 per candy, But your Ministry has You say there is no glut in cotton. My not given this fact and it has given another name is Kadambur Janardhanan and Ka- sort of reply. dambur is my village. We have got the entire jinned stock if! fact from January without any 13.00 hrs. movement.

I would like to readtothis august House, Further you say that you are looking to the statement made by our han. Deputy the interests of the powerlooms and hand- Prime Minister and Agricu~ure Minister, Shri looms. But the current cotton yarn price is Devi La!. very high. Handloom weavers have come to you and represented that the price of cotton "Let Agrrculture Ministry export yarn is very high. Last year when Congress- cotton:Devi J was in power, the export policy was an- 457 Calling Anention Glut VAISAKHA 21, .1912 (SAKA) in cotton market 458 nounced only in April. As a result, though nouncingtheirexportprice. Therefore, I would crop was less, there was speculation on request this new Government to come for- cotton price and now CCI has exported J34 ward with a new proposal for the support Punjab cotton at 142 to 160 cents per kg to price of cotton as well as yam. The year of the foreigners. But Indian price which is cotton should be taken from October or ruling is only Rs. 7,000/- per candy. What September to September but it should be machinery have you arranged to distribute taken from the flowering season only. No- the profit earned through export, to the agri- vember is the flowering season of cotton. If culturist? Are you going to 'see that the· the Government takes some other month agriculturist receives the profit? CCI has based on the report of bureaucrats, it will be exported J34 variety at Rs. 9,000/- to Rs. a failure. The Cotton Advisory Board's report 10,000/- per candy. How are you going to is something and the Trade Report is an- distribute the profit of Rs. 3,0001- to the other thing. The Government must take a farmers? pragmatic view. Therefore, the year of cotton should be taken into account from the What is the position in Maharashtra flowering month. Therefore the Government today? How many lakhs of bales were in must fix the support price of cotton, cotton stock? You have got hardly two months time. seed, yarn on a separate identical basis. July is the new sowing season. The next This alone will help the cotton growers. Here, crop is going to come. The condition of I am bound to say that there is a glut in the cotton growers in the country is pitiable. cotton market: There is a high downward trend as fas as the price of cotton is con- Therefore, my suggestion is the CCI cerned. The agriculturists are getting only should be decentraliSM like OCI, Tamil Nadu As. 600/- per quintal. H they had sold their CCI, Andhra Pradesh and CCI Karnataka produce three months back, they would have etc. They must have individual cotton Body. got Rs. 650/- to Rs. 950/- per quintal. There- CCI must go to the small villages. fore, I would expect a proper reply from the han.' Minister. How many CCI Officers are going to the villages and establishing contact with the [ Translation] agriculturists? The CCI is working as a bu~ reaucrat. It must work in the interest of the SHRI BANWARILAL PUROHIT agriculturists and the cotton growars. (Nagpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in con- formity with your rulings, through you, I would Now I com'e to export of yarn. With these like'to bring one thing to the notice ofthe han. one ortwo sentences, I will finish my speech. Minister. If we look at the present situation, Fall in the price of cotton lint at the Bombay we will find that thousands of weavers are marker was reported to be mainly due to working in Nagpur's textile industry. The extremely limited demand from the Mills and condition of the handloom weavers is very Spinners and.increased selling pressu re from pathetic, they don't get yarn in time, they the stockists. Therefore, there is definitely a don't have any money with them, their socie- downward trend. There must be export of ties are almost bankrupt. They have to regu- cotton and yarn keeping in mind the interests larly face loss. I would also like to draw your of the agriculturists in our country. Then only attention towards the pitiable conditions of the growers will get good price. There must the poorer people. We receive many repre- be proper coordination between the Ministry sentations from the hand loom industry. Hwe of Agriculture and the T extifes Ministry in think about t~e big mills, we find that the announcing' their export policy and in an~ conditions of the cotton-based textile ntis 459 Calling Anention Glut MAY 11,1990 in cotton marice' 460

[Sh. Banwarilal Purohit] the market. It is only when the people raise a hullabaloo that you fix the export quota in are pretty bad. You must be receiving repre- the months of March, April or May. Mean- sentations about the closure of mills in many while, the farmer is left with no option but to areas. At leasf the Government should na- sell off his produce to the traders at a low tionalise such mills or set up workers' c0op- price. The traders make a huge profit out of erative or at least ask the state govemments it. Despite all your pleaJings, they would not to take over the mills. Surely there is some export it through the cooperatives as they loophole in this policy because the weavers don't get much profit from it. The traders in the handloom sector are on the verge of make huge profits out of the remaining bales starvation. the powerloom sector is facing of cotton. clossal loss rInd the textile mills are facing bankruptcy due to continuous loss. By gradu- In our State of Maharashtra there is a ally destroying these sectors, the manufac- cotton Federation. There is a monopoly turers of man-madp fibre like Shri Dhirubhai purchase scheme in vogue there. As such it Ambani have become millionaires and bil· IS a very good scheme, but it is failing. There lionaires while the majority of our weavers is a free trade of cotton in our neighbouring have become vPctims of poverty starvation. It states, as a result of which all the produce is is in this context that we have to think about taken out of the state whenever there is a our textile industry. With reference to the slump in the prices. This results in huge m 3tter under discussion I wantto say that we losses to the federation. Hyou are not able to talk a lot about farmers weHare and providing check smuggling from Pakistan, how can them higher remunerative prices. In response you stop smuggling of goods from one state to an earlier question, the non. Deputy Prime to another? I would like to say this much that Minister said that the Government would you should convene a meeting of all the give the status of an in

Federation who are going to benefit from it. is th~ diffICUlty with you. Even the earlier Only the farmers benefit from it. You should Government did not do it. H you also cannot fulfil their other demand seeking permission do it, I don't know whom we should go 1D. You to export minimum five lakh bales. This will have been telling the people that you have directly benefit the farmers. There is some come to power to protect the interest of the Incoherence in your overall policy. You have farmers. If it is so, at least the institutions estimated the overall production upto May at which are working for the farmer, on behalf of 120 crore bales. You have made a trade the farmer, should be protected and given a estimate of 130 crore bales. You should be long life so that they can have long and sOOrt- a bit liberal in this regard keeping in mind the term policy. fact that there would be an additional production of 10 lakh bales. You should give an Regarding the export quota I have al- rJddrtional quota of 51akh bales to the Mahar- ways objected to one thing. The tota. pur- years. We have late what is your total requirement. You have heen req' .er.tlng you all these years to please got your Textile D&partment, they can tell OIV~ us extension fm ten yaars so that we you how many mills are on strike and how r ~., plan =1nd CJO ~"'ead I do not know what long it is likely to continue. 463 Calling Attention Glut MAY 11,1990 in cotton market 464

[5h. Uttam Rathod) PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): Mr. Rao is not here. With your p&rmission,1 would like Atone stage in Bombay, with the help of to put a question. the great Dr. Datta Samant who was an hon. Member here, we had a very long strike; MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Prof. Ran- most of the mills were closed. But you never gaji, no please. thought of releasing that particular quota for export. Such things should not be done. PROF. N.G. RANGA: May I know What we have seen is, when you release the whether the Cotton Corporation of India is quota the international prices are at higher coming into the market in order to help the level and when actually they want to sell itthe farmers in Madras and in Andhra and whether prices come down. Ultimately, I remember the Government would try to have a confer- that all these CCI and other peopte had to ence of all the interests concerned in oroerto sell itto private sellers and they made a huge see that their mutual interests are reconciled profit. How did it happen? Because we could and the farmers are assured of remunerative 'not wait for same more time to see the prices? reaction. If a private man can take the risk, why not the Government-owned Corpora- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is not tion? I just want to ask that. allowed. Shri Harish Rawat.

rhave a feeling that there some mischief [ Translation] was played. I dof),t blame anybody. But you must get into it and see that something is SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Alrnora): Mr. done about it. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the hon. Ministe(s statement contains nothing but a compari- I would say lastly that you were really son with the previous year's performance of kind enough the other day when you met the the C.C.I. although this year's position is cotton growers in the Deputy-Speaker's hall. slightly different from that of the previous I would only request you to please do some year. Last year the production was less but favour to the cotton growers. They are the this year the impact of bumper crop which people who are working throughout the year: surpassed even youron estimates has been they are getting nothing. That is the only felt in the market. Actually it is during such cash crop they have. Prof. Ranga will tell times that the farmers are in need of assis- that. I think, the State to which Prof. Ranga taRce from Government agencies. Certainly belongs-Andhra Pradesh-produce 13 lakh the CCI has failed to fulfil the expectations bales of the total cotton produced i.e. more people had from from it. Not only this, now than 100 lakh bales. Please take more pre- the C.C.I. is not able to reach the farmers cautions and try to help them. And wherever through its purchase points too. Many states they may work-in cooperative sector or in had appealed to you to open more purchase federations-give them long life and all help points in their states, but those appeals are so that they can survive. As Shri Purohit has not heard and are ignored, because the CCI bp.en saying, if you can introduce monopoly is not prepared to take upon itself the expen- purchase throughout the country, there is diture that it will have to incur in the process. nothing like that. But, I doubt, it, Sir. Thank There is no coordination between the CCI you. and the various state fegerations who too are involved in the same work, although it is MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri K.S. essential for them to have an effective coor- Rao. dination. If there is a lack of coordination, the 465 Calling Attention Glut VAISAKHA 21 J 1912 (SAKA) in cotton maricet 466 total support of your Ministry and the CCI demand of theirs has been thoroughly ex- would not be available to them during such amined because our cotton growers are times and certainly, as a resuh, these federa- today at the mercy of big mill owners? Two tions would not be able to fulfil their respon- kinds of pressures work on the cotton corpo- sibilities. ration of India. On the one hand it has to bear the pressure of Commercial Origanisations I would like to know only two or three and on the other it has to help the farmers things from the han. Minister. Going by the also. Thus two kinds of pressure work on it. Increase in the arrivals have you made suf- H~ever CCI are unable to put any pressure ficient arrangements to regulate their pur- on the mills, Under such circumstances, the chase or to open more purchase points? At private mill owners join together and create your first meeting. did you formulate any such a situation within the scheme that the purchase plan, keeping in mind the esti- farmers are left with no option but to sell their mated production? It is the farmers who produce at very cheap priceS. My friend Shri suffer most in the absence of any such plan Banwarilal Purohit had said that the mill, because they are in hurry to get their pro- were running at a loss, but going by the duce to the market. In the absence of the present situation, I do not think that there purchaser in the market at that time, the would be even a single mill owner who would farmer is compelled to sell off his produce at not endeavour out to wipe out all his previous very cheap and unremunerative prices. This losses. All the production and its profits are condition exists not only in this case but in going into the hands of the mill owners when 1')1r er cases as well. I would like to insist that actually it is the farmer who should get the of you have formulated any purchase plan in lion's share. I would insist upon you to formu- thiS regard, the farmers should be informed late any scheme only after holding talks with about it. They should be informed about it the federations and the state Governments. with the help of various farmers organisation. On the issue of exports you have said that you have already fixed the quota, but [English) according to the information we have, the actual expons are comparatively much lower PROF. N.G. RANGA: . Maharashtra than that of the previous year despite the Schemp should be examined, fixation of this quota. This will prove to be an additional burden on the CCI. In order to [ Translation) avoid the over burdening of CCI you should ensure that the actual export performance is SHRI HARISH RAWAT: You should in accordance with the quota fixed for the see to it that the farmers do not suffer as a purpose, result of the fall in prices due to increased arrivals in the market. Many of our friends THE ,MINISTER OF TEXTILES AND and the han. Minister in his statement has MINISTER OF FOOD PROCESSING IN- talked about some federations and it was DUSTRIES (SHRI SHARAD YADAV): Mr. mentioned here that these federations had Deputy Speaker, Sir,I will try to give satisfac- sought the permission of the Government to tory replies to the points raised by Shri Puro- directly 'export which would enable these hit. Shri Rathore and Shri Rawat. federations to proted the interests of the cotton growers in their respective regions. A This year, there is rerord production of lot of discussion in this regard has already cotton. Our estimate is 122 lakh bales. The taken place. I would like to know whether this Agricuhure Ministry says that it would be 467 CaRing Attention Glut MAY 11, 1990 in ootton rnat#

[Sh. Sharad Yadav] cording to our capacity and we have already taken staps in this direction. I was telling upto 1051akh bales. But just now, some han. aboutC.C.l.lastyear, there were 163centres Members said that the production is much of C.C.t, but this year, 186 centres have more than these estimates. In this regard, been set up. That means, the number of we have taken a precaution that from next centres have increased. In view of the pro- year, we will try to estimate the production of duction. we have encouraged commercial crops through satellite whether the produc- purchase. We have given 13 to 24 per cent tion is 122lakh bales or 130 lakh bales. It is more than the minimum support price_ Even certainly a record production. Ever since, if we take the average, we have paid 20 per our party came to power and I took over the cent more than the prices tor cotton produc- charge as Minister of Textiles, efforts have tion throughout the country_This has been been made to provide remunerative price to done to see that the prices do not fall. The the farmers for their produce. We have in- role of the C.C.!. is to keep a check on the structed the C.C.I. that the prices should not market so that the farmers do not get low be allowed to fall. pricefortheirproduce.1 accept that all centres are not working perfectly and there are short- Just now, Shri Rawat was saying that comings. But it is our duty to make them there are short-comlngs in the functioning of perfect and progressive. Just now, it has C.C.!. I accept that It is not as effective as it been said that we have not fulfilled our should have been. Out of 13.85 lakh bales, export commitment. I would like to inform which we have exported this year, due share that 9.4 lakh bales of cotton have already has been given to Maharashtra Federation. been registered-that is out of 13.81akh bales, Maharashtra produces only 1/6 of the entire 9.4lakh bales have registered and it is r~ady cotton production of the country, but they for shipment. Maharashtra Federation has have been allotted more quota. Regarding done a very good job. In export, they have C.C.!., Shri Rawat said that its centres were done more effective work tlian C.C.I. C.C.I. already purchasing cotton but now we have has not brought down the prices but has expanded the organisation. made commercial purchase. The record production this year is of 122lakh bales, but [English] inspite of that, we have fixed quotas. When Shri Janardhan was in Advisory Committee, PROF. N.G. RANGA: Not so much in he had .stated that export should be cur- Andhra Pradesh. tailed, but today, he has raised a calling attention that the farmers are not getting [ Translation} remunerative prices for their produce. We have released the quota in a very scientific SHRI SHARAD YADAV: Whenever I way this time. We have not released it at received a complaint-whether it was from once. There was no estimate as to the total Members of the ruling ~rty or opposition- production. There was an apprehension that that the C.C.I. centres were not purchasing there win be shortage in the domestic mar- cotton, officers were immediately sent ther, ket. It is our responsibility to provide Cheap to investigate. In Andhra Pradesh, farmers cloth to the people and also to keep a check, thought there will be high increase in the so that power-loom and mill sector or not prices, so they blocked their goods. They capture the domestic market Shri Purohit even went on strike. We assured them by has rightly said that this department is suffer- sending our officers that despite our finan- ing from many flaws. Some where the pow- cial difficulties. we will purchase cotton ac- erloom is capturing the handloom and at 469 Calling Attention Glut VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) in cotton market 470 other places. the mill sector is capturing ofthefarmers. The farmers have been given powerloom. That means, there js constant a profit of about As. 800 to 1000 crores. We conflict between the cotton-growers, hand- have made the purchase in competition and loom weavers, powerloom weavers and mill didn't let their prices fall. I would like to sector. When we were exporting the quota, subm it that we have given a lot morethan the there was continuous protest from many minimum support price in all th~ main varie- sections. People belonging to handloom ties. J-34 is 24 per cent more than the sector submitted a memorandum that the minimum support price. In Haryana and quota should not be released and export Rajasthan. J-34 is 21 per cent more and in should be curtailed so that prices can in- Punjab, it is 28 per cent more than the crease here. We told them that a sizeable minimum support pri~e. In Andhra Pradesh, section of the population in the country earr, M.C.~-5 is 28 per cent mOTe than the mini- their livelihood through the textile industry mum support price. Other varieties are 13 and lot of them are cotton-growers. If the per cent more than the minimum support welfare of farmer is not kept in view, this price. It IS true that these varieties have been industry will run in loss. given less price. In Karnataka upto 7.5.90, the cotton-growers have been given 26 per It has been said that we should adopt a cent more than the minimum support price. uniform and fixed policy. We have decided We have made this commercial purchase in that there will be a regular export of 5 lakh competition. Strict orders have been given bales. There will be no variation depending that wherever, there is fall in the prices, the upon the production. The C.C:I. purchased centres will be held responsible. I would like 11 lakh bales. ThiS time, we have allotted to inform the hon. Members that this time quotasto the State federation and C.C.I. and C.C.1. did not show any slackness. This year, n01 to the private traders. We have allotted they made commercial purchase in an effec- the entire quota to C.C.!., Maharashtra tive waf. Despite its capacity and shortcom- Federation and other State Cooperative ings in the infrastructure, we have tried to Federations. Although, at some places, ensure that prices do not fall. The hon. where the federations are weak, they have Members stated that 120 lakh bales have asked for less quota. We tried to allot them already come in the market. Price of lint is according to the production. Our intention less, but the price of cotton seed is more. I behind this wasthat the profit earned through share the concern of the hon. Members exports will go to the farmers, whether it is regarding the plight 01 farmers. I agree that earned by the C.C.A. by the Federations. As farmers deserve something more. We have Shri P.urohit also stated that federations are made all out efforts to provide more to the of the farmers. So the profit earnp.d by the farmers. C.C.I. or the fpderations will go to the farmers. The farmers been given their shares of Shr; Purohit was saying that more quota the profit and whatever profit remains, l(I'ill be should be allotted to the Maharashtra Fed- given in the next crop. In 1985-86, 12 lakh eration. It is being said that there has been a bales were bought on the.mrnimum support production of 120 lakh bales. If it is so and if price. The farmers in Andhra Pradesh com- there will be increase in the export quota, we mitted suicide by consuming poison during wilt leave no efforts in strengthe.ning the that year. Shri Ranga is aware of it. We Maharashtra Federation. We have received should try to prevent such a thing in future. In a letter from the Chief Minister and lot of viewof this, we have fixed this type of quota people from your State have given a memo- and all the profit will go to the farmer. C.C.I. randum. We have allotted more quota in and Federations have purchased in favou·r comparison to the production there. The 471 Calling Attention MAY 11, 1990 B_A. C. Report 472 Glut in cotton market Add. Duties of Exc. (Goods of Special 'mp.) Amend. BIll [Sh. Sharad Yadav] ent, I do not have the details. I will tell you later. quota which has been allotted to the Maharashtra Federation, is half of the allotted quota to C.C.I. C.C.I. operates in the entire country. " they have been given 100 13.43 hr. per cent. the Maharashtra Federation has been given 50 per cent. We have favoured BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE them. We will provide help to those people, who want to ~Ofm voluntary organisations Of Tenth Report co-opera~ives in favour of the farmers. Co- operatives strengthen democracy. It strength- [English] ens the hands of the people, who are producing on mass level and builds up their self- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE confidence. Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I would M'NISffiYOF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (CH. JAG DEEP DHANKHAR): On behalf of like 10 thank those, who have raised this Shri Satya Pal Malik I beg to move: question because I also got the opportunity to give the detail about the work carried out ''That this Housedo agree with the Tenth this year. In the end, I would like to submit Report of the Business AdviSOry Com- one more point that we face a lot of difficul- mittee present~ to the House on the ties. When we favour the farmers, the hand- , Oth May, 1990." loom weavers and powerloom weavers suffer It is necessary to work very cautiously in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question the textile industry. I have tried my level best is: to reply to the questions raised here. With ''That this Housedo agree with the Tenth these words, I thank you. Report of the Business Advisory Com- ~ittee presented to the House on the [English] 10th May, 1990."

SHRI KA.DAMBUR M R. JANARDHA- The Motion was adopt'Jd. NAN: Shall I ask one clarification? May I know whether the SUVIn cotton of Tamil Nadu is being exported? Only Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh are produclngthisSuvln 13.44 hr•. cotton. ADDITIONAL DUTIES OF EXCISE MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is ex- (GOODS OF SPECIAL IMPORTANCE AMENDMENT BILL * actly what you should have asked before. [English 1 [ Translation] THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI SHARAD YADAV: I have stated MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI ANll SHAS- that all the States were consulted. We did TRI): On behalf of Prof. Madhu Dandavate J whatever they wan\eo. \(0\.1 have asked a beg to move tor \eave to introduce a Bill speci1ic question ahout Tamil Nadu. At pres- further to amend the Additional Duties of

·Published in the Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part II, Section 2, dated 11.5.90 473 Matters under VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Rule377 474

Excise (Goods of Special Importance) Ad, years the Army has also dismantled that 1957. bridge.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: * Published in the Galette of India Ex- traordinary. Part II, Section 2, dated 11.5.90. "That leave be granted to introduce a B~I furtherto amend the Additional Duties During the last Parliamentary elections, of Excise (Goods of Special Importance ) the residents of village Amia and of sur- Act, 1957." rounding villages boycoatted the election and did not cast their votes as a protest for The motion was adopted. not constructing a brid~e on that 'Aik Nallah'.

SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: I introduce the I would like to request the Ministry of Bill. Defence, Government of India, to construct a bridge on that 'Aik Nallah' near village Amia. T ehsil Ranbir Singh Pura, District Jammu, keeping in view the genuine demand of the genuine demand of the public of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House that area. will..now take up matters under Rule 377. Shri Janak Raj Gupta. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Mankuram SOdhi. 13.45. hrs SHRI JOSS FERNANDEZ (Nominated- MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 Anglo-Indians): May I point out, Sir, that there is no quorum in the House. [Eng/ish] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The quorum (i) Need to Construct a bridge bell is being rung- over 'Alk Nallah' near Amla Village, tehsil Ranblr Singh Now there is quorum. P\lra District Jammu Shri Mankuram Sodhi. SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA (Jammu): The people residing on border areas near [ Translation] village 'Amia' Ranbir Singh Pura side in J & K State adjoining Pakistan border, are facing (II) Need to expedite work c the a great difficulty because there is no bridge Jagdalpur-Bhopal P.. ·am on "Aik Nallah' (a small stream) near village National highway Amia, Teh Ranbir Singh Pura. District Jammu. During rainy season, people are -SHRI MANKURAM SODHI (Bastar): totally cut off from the main road leading to The prOVision was made for converting 210 Dahlehar and Ranbir Singh Pura due to too kms. long State Highway from Jagdalpur to much water in that stream and -have to take Bhopal Patnam in Bastar district in Madhya a longer route to reach Ranbir Singh Pura, Pradesh into a National Highway In the last T ehsil Headquarters. budget. Even after a lapse of one year, only the charge of the aforesaid road has so far Previously Army had constructed a been taken. The pace of work on this high- bailey bridge on that Nallah for the conven~ way is very slow. Even the ongoing construc- ience of the genera' public of that area any tion of bridges and culverts have come to a army vehicles. But for the last three to four standstill. The gang C09lies responsible for 475 Matters under MAY 11,1990 Ru1e377 476

[Sh. Mankuram Sodhi] railway line into broad gauge as early as possible. undertaking day to day repair work in their respective areas have become inactive and [ Translation) the condition of the road is deteriorating day by day on account of Increase in traffic on (Iv) Need to Implement the recom- that road. The road remains-closed for four mendations of Ram Singh months during raIny season because the Commission which probed bridges and the culverts are not strong. Into construction of channa Is of Indira Gandhi Canal Therefore, the Central Government is requested to instruct the State Government SHRI BEGA RAM (Sriganganagar): The to step up the pace of undertaking necessary World Bank released funds for construction repair work on this road as was being done of Channels of Indira Gandhi Canal. The earlier. Channels which were constructed, have been breached badly. The Government appointed [English1 the Ram Singh Commission in 1978 to enquire into the matter and the C.B.1. has (III) Need to convert metre gauge also conducted an enquiry into it. The afore- railway line between Tlruchlra- said commission and the C.B.1. in their find- palli and Nagore Into broad ings held 193 Engineers of the Irrigation gauge Department quality. Thus the Government should take appropriate action against them. SHRI S. SINGARAVADIVEl However, no action has so far been taken on (Thanjavur): Conversion of the metre gauge t"ese recommendations. railway line between Tlruchirapalll and Nagore via Thanjavur on t"e TrruchirapaW "IJrge upon the Central Government to Railway Division tn the Southern Railway take necessary action on the recommenda- amounting to 140 K. M. mto broad gauge has tions of the Ram Singh Commission. been demanded by the people of all walks of Iffe in the interest of development of Thanjavur MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I would liketo district. The entire district is now served only inform the han. Members that only the ap- by a metre gauge line and therefore the proved text will go on record. people are put to lot of disadvantages. In the absence of broad gauge line transport of [English] goods to and fro is mostly done by road resulting in heavy freight charges. The in- The rest will not form part of the record. dustrial development of the district. is also severely hit. The conversion of the railway [ Translation] line into broad gauge will reduce the cost of transport of salt, paddy and other commodi- (v) Need to take steps to check ties avair~ble in the district, encourage the aduneratlon of Petrol and DIe- industrialists both private and publ~ sectors sel supplied to consumers to set up industries in this area, ease movement of petroleum prooucts in Narimanam SHRI KAPil DEV SHASTRI (Sonepat): and other parts of the .district and link the As regards proving adulteration of Diesel Thanjavur district with other parts of the and petrol in the petrol pumps in the urban national by broad gauge. and the rural areas of the country, it is almost impossible for the sample authorities to provo adulteration of them due to some legal tech- I, therefore, request the Government to nicalities. Whenever the concerned officer take all steps.to convert this metre gauge goes to the petrol pump to collect the sample, 477 Matters under VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Rule377 478 the dealer takes recourse to legal formalities benefits that are enjoyed by the regular and thus goes scot free under the cover of employees. It would remove resentment legal formalities. In this regard, it is worth among the employees and ensure smoothly mentioning that the dealers insist on collect- functioning of the Department. ing samples under the rules framed by In- dian Standard Institute and these standards' are very difficult to adopt if not impossible. (vII) Need to rename the Sahar and Many formalities have to be fulfilled in this Santa Cruz Airports as 'Chha- regard. In this regard some or the other trapatl Shlvaji International lacuna remaining there. In this connection, Airport' and 'Saba Saheb the significant point is that the petrol and Ambedkar Airport respectively diesel supplied to the petrol pump dealers by the oil depots are not of I.S.I. standards. The legal point IS thiS that It IS improper to take SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay, North): Mr. samples of oil of I.S.I. standards when the Deputy Speaker, Sir, under Rule 3n I would dealers are nol supplied oil of I.S.I. stan- like to raise the following matter The Govern- dards. As such erther the all supplied should ment of India has recently taken a decision to be of I.S.1 standard or the procedure of rename three major airports of India, accord- taking should be amended. This way we can ing to which the name of Bombay Interna- check aduheratlon of Diesel and petrol. tional Airport will be Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Airport, the name of the Calcutta Interna- (vi) Need to regula rise the serv- tional Airport will be Subhash Chandra Bose ices of Extra-Departmental Airport and the name of Madras Interna- employees of P & T Depart- tional Airport will be Anna Durai Airport and ment the name of Madras Airport for domestic flights will be Kamraj Airport. This decision of the Government has evoked sharp reaction PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL in Maharashtra as it hurt the pride of Mahar- (Hamirpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Slr,l would ashtrian. The people are agitated over it like to raise the follOWing matter under Rule because they think that it has been done 377. The Government should pay atlentlon deliberately to denigrate the people of Ma- to the extra departmental Employees serv- haras~tra. Parties like the B. J. P., the Ing in the Post and Telegraph Department of Shivsena and the Communist Party of India thp CommunicatIOn MiOistry. The wages of have also issued statements in this regard. these employees have been fixed as pecthe Several members of Parliament have also hours of work put by them and they have tQ made a demand to reconsider the aforesaid work for 2 to 3 hours In tne morning and decision. This has been supported by vari- evening both. People Ii..,ing In the far flung ous newspapers also. In deference to the areas who report for duty in the morning do sentiments expressed by the people of not go back to their homes after attending Mumbai and Maharashtra, I would like to their morning duty as it takes a lot of time and request the renaming of the Maharashtra moreover they are supposed to report back airports and name the "Sahar" International for work at the same place once again in the Airport as Chattrapati Shivaji Airport and evening They spend the interval either doing Santa Cruz Airport as Dr. Baba Saheb departmental work or waste their time doing Ambedkar airport. The Government should nothing. No other benefit is available to them. keep this fact in mind that if no step in this direction is taken, it would lead to a public: agitation in Maharashtra. Therefore, I would like to urge upo .. the Government to regularise the services of all extra departmental employees with immediate effect so that they can also avail of all the 479 Demands for Grants MAY 11, 1990 Min. of Water ReSOUIC8S 480 (Gen.J 1990-91 & Alin. of Agriculture

14_00 hrs_ The credit for this achievement goes to our agricultural scientists and exprts in the DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (General) field. This credit also goes to PanditJawahar- 1990-91 lal Nehru who started planning and research programmes to develop agtiaJhural farming Ministry of Water Resources and industry. The result is that now we are one of the big countries producing sugar, and wheat, maize and aI other food items which human beings consume. Moreover, we are Ministry of AgricuHure producing now many types of fruits and vegetables and oilseeds. All this has been (CONTD.) possible because of our good irrigation policy. [English] Our Congress Government opened MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Now we take many agricultural universities in order to up further discussion on the Demands for develop agriculture and farming. Manypeople Grants No. 78 relating to the Minrstry of did research in this field and went abroad to Water Resources and Nos. 1 to 5 relating to learn more about modern and latest technics the Ministry of Agricuhure. Time allotted is 15 in agriculture. The resuh of all this is that hours and time consumed is 9 hours and 56 today our country is among those few na- minutes. Balance time is five hours and four tions which are called great nations. minutes. I have a very bg list of Members who want to speak. In-the beginning itseH, I Now I want to give a few suggestions. I would request the Members to stick to the feel that the ruling party has not fulfilled time given to them so that many Members those promises which it made to the people can express their views. before it took over the reins of the Govern- ment the farmers are still dependent on SHRIMATI PREMAlABAI CHAVAN financial aid. Then, there is no grant and they (Karad): I thank yOlJ very much for giving me are not able to produce more raw materials the time to make some important sugges- tor the industrial units. These big farmers tions. can only make use of the research done and get benefit but not the small farmers. Our Firstly, our country IS an agricuhural present Government should have a planning country. Since independence we have been which should also help the poor farmers so trying to improve our agriculture. The whole that they can futtil their aims and objectives. world knows how we have tried our level best I think the young generation must also be to improve our agricuhure. We have take~' ~jp taken into consideration and they should get many projects and have been successful in assistance and encouragement so that they achieving our aims, Within last 20 yec.-',; the continue their farming and not take up other country became self-sufficient and our occupations. The children of the farmers Government stopped begging or borrowing should be a looked after well and their chil- from big countries like America, England, dren should also be looked after. etc. I am proud to say that now w~ are in a position to export foodgrains to those coun- Madam, the girt-students of the farmers tries which could not grow anyt~ing because are not given adequate facilites. I suggest of geographical reasons. that the Government should have more hostels and more primary schools in the rural 14.02 hrs. areas particularly for the girts. Sir, as we all know, 60 per cent of the women-fok work in [SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE in the agricuttural fl8lds and they are of great the Chailj help to the agriaJiturists and farmers. As it is 481 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA)Alin. of Water Resources 482 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agriculturs

necessary to care for our agriculture and said that the Congress had taken many farming, we should also care for our women. steps in this direction in the last 40 years. I particularly in the rural areas. Right from the am not saying that the Congress has not childhood the girls should get education. done anythi!l9 i" this direction, but I feel that They should get admission to the agricul- the schemes formulated for this purpose tural colleges also. In our country generally could not be implemented property and their education is imparted to the male children, benefits did not percolate down to the farm- butthe girl children ate discriminated against ers. in the matter of giving education. I request that agriculture should be made as a coni- The Government knows what type of pulsory subject at the primary school level so land is there in Maharashtra. A loan of As. that boys and girls may get the knowledge of 18,000 is being provided through the NA- the agriculture. In Maharashtra, I know, many BARD for digging of wells. A well cannot be schools have introduced agriculture as one dug up with this meagre amount in these of the subjects. ft has been made compul- days of high prices. There is a saying in sory and one hour is set apart for teaching Maharashtra which implies that it takes two the children about farming. During this time generations for a well to be dug up. In this both boys and girls are leaming how to do regard, I would like to suggest that atx>ut As. gardening, etc. It is also production-oriented 40,000 to 50,000 should be given as loan for and help the nation. Therefore, I suggest that digging of a well. Besides, our farmers do not a new policy should be framed and priority get electricity. They should be provided should be given to the farming and agricul- regular suppfy of electricity too. ture. I wish the present Govemment will take all the~e points into consideration and do A lot is said about the Green Revolution. Justice for the growth of agrICUlture. A White Revolution should aJso be launched. A milk scheme should be launched immedi- [ Translation1 ately on the line of the one being run in Gujarat. This scheme is being run very effec- SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR MAHALE tively in Gujarat. Similar schemes should be (Malegaon): Madam Chairman. I would like launched in every State. to say something regarding agriculture. Agricutture should be treated at par with UAdmi Nahi Balwan Hai Samay Balwan indu~ and a policy is this regard should be Samay Samay Par Suvidha Na Milne formulated accordingly. The traders them- Se selves fix the prices of textiles being manu- Kisan Ho gaya Hairan fadured in the mills, but the farmers have no Kisan ki Mang Hai Milna Chahiye freedom to do so. The process of his pr0- Pura Pur a Pasine ka Dam duce are fixed by the middleman in the Janata Sarkar Ne Kiya Hai Vada market. This should not be allowed to hap- Dhanyavad Dhanyavad." pen. The farmers should have the freedom to fix the prices of their crops themsetves like Madam Chairman, the Government the traders do for their produce. should formulate such policies under thewhich farmers, who work hard could get I fully support the view expressed by the remunerative prices for their crops. I would hen. lady Member who spoke before me, in like to thank the National Front Government regard to cyclone. The country suffers loss for the policy it has formulated in th,s regard, due to sylcone. The Congress has ruled the but this policy should be implemented expe- country for 40 years and they formulated the ditiously. policies about flood and drought according to their own considerations. Drought and Prior to me, an elderty and experienced flood hit different parts of the country simul- leader has spoken a lot on the subject. He taneously. A policy should be formulated to 483 Demands for Grants MAY 11,1990 Min. of Water ReSOUIC8S 484- (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agricultu,.

[Sh. Haribhau Shankar Mahale) these proiects. check both. The session is going to be over in a few days and after the Janata Dal M.Ps. return to The Government has introduced a Crop their respective constituencies, the farmers lnsurance Scheme also. All crops should be will ask them about the steps taken by the covered under this scheme and there should Government for writing off their loal1s upto be some facilities for protection from floods. As. 100,000. What reply will they give? No My submission ~ that entire agriculture decision has been taken so far for writing off should be covered-under insurance. h will be loans upto As. 10.000. Sometimes they say good if ~ore irrigation facilities are proVided that half of the amount wi" be borne by the for agriculture. At present. in Maharashtra State Govemments and the remaining half irrigation facilities are available only for 12 by tile Central Government. The Govern- per cent of land, out of which 6 per cent land ment should formulate a clear-cut policy in is being irrigated by wells and the rest 6 per this regard before the end of the session. It cent by canals. There is a scheme named is the responsibility of the Central Go"em- Parnar Scheme on Paschim Vahi.,: Twer in mentbecause it had stated earlier that loans my constituency in Maharashtra. This river woulds be waived but at that time, it did not flows into the sea and not much use is made say that the State Governments will also of its water for irrigation. I would like to have to bear half of the expenditure on this request that if the Paschim Vahini river could account My demand is that the Government be linked with the Poorvi Vahin; river, large should clearly spell out its policy regarding areas of land could ba irrigated.A present, writing off of lcal1s before the current session only haH of the area of my constituency is comes to a close. covered under irrigation. I want to say that the Government must think about providing Today, the farmers carry the burden of more facilities for irrigation. higher rates of interest. Earlier there were mahajans (money lender) and Pathans who There are many sugar mills in Mahar- used to lend money to the farmers on higher ashtra and some of them are in the name of rates of interest in Maharashtra, but now the tribals, but they neither appoint any tribal Banks have replaced them. I demand that Director nor give jobs to tribals·in these mills. loans should be given to the farmers at lower It is necessary to provide jobs to the people rateS of interest. I am saying this because belonging to the Scheduled Castes and the they had promised to write off loans. Person- Scheduled Tribes in these sugar mills be- ally speaking, writing off loans is not a good cause it is the Government who spends most policy but.the loan. should be gIVen at a lower of the money on these mills. Out of the total :-ate of interest., Besides, the people belong- expenQiture on these mills, 15 per cent is ing to the Scheduled Caste~ should be given being spent by the farmers and the remain- loans without charging any interest. When ing 85 per cent by the Government. In spite the Government of Maharashtra wrote off of thi~, the people belonging to the Sched- loans to the tune of Rs .. 50,000 crores, only uled Castes and Jhe Scheduled Tribes are 1 OOtribals were benefited underthat scheme. not being provided jobs in these mitis. There- , would demand that the loans of the people fore, the Government must pay attention belonging to Scheduled Castes and the towards it. Scheduled Tribes shouki be waived.

There are 4-5 power projects in Mahar- Wrth these words, I conclude and thank ashtra.j have the jist of these projects with you for providing me an opportunity to speak. me but I do not want to waste the time of the House in such details. I would like to request ·DR. V'SWANA THAM (Srikakulam}: the Government through you to approve Madam Chair persons, I am gra\e1u\ to you

·Translation of speech originally delivered in Telugu. 485 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA)Min. of Water ResoulC8s 486 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agriculture for providing me an opportunity to speak. that we have enough water for irrigation This is my maiden speech though I entered purposes but we have no water to drink. The this august House five months ago. I am 60 Govt. has failed miserably in providing pr0- years old. Madam. it is my proud privilege to tected water or potable water in every village be a member of this august House. It is rare in the country Statistics re~eal from time to privelege to be in the company of veteran time the number of wells dugand the number parliamentarians like Prof. Ranga, Shri In- of tube-wells fixed. The development does drajit Gupta. Shri Somnath Chatterjee and not go beyond the statistical figures. There is Prof. Madhu Dandavate. no m~nitoring as to how many tube well are functioning properly. There is no mechanism Air. water, food and sheher are the to monitor the digging. drilling and function- pnmary necessities of man. We also recog- ing of wells. The Govemment remains silent nise the fact that education is also equally about the functioning of these wells. important: Madam. many promises are quite often made before coming to power by eve- Madam. the major quantity offoodgrains ryone. But all these promises are conven- being grown only in five states out of 25 iently forgotten once they come to power. states and 7 Union Territories in the country. What we see today is the mere repetitions of H assured water supply is ensured for 6 to 8 the same old story. The Chairman of the months in an year, the farmers in these 5 National Front. Shri N. T. Rama Rae de- states can grow three crops. The production Clared that the Governme-nt would solve the of food grains in these States will be suffi- Punjab problem in a day. Now the National cient enough to feed the country. The re- Front Govt is in the saddle and five months maining State should be made to grow cash are already over _The problem remains where crops. Kerala is know for its cash crops. The it was. When a newsman confronted the reason is that the people in this State are Chairman of the National Front with the educated and know what crops their soil question as to how he was going to solve the permits. They are getting Qood returns for Punjab problem. the Chairman of the Front their cash crops. In return they are purchas- replied that he would solve the problem if the ing foodgrains at a cheaper rate. This is how front is voted to power. This episode is just they are reaping benefit. Their education is an example to show how the promises are behind their success. Hence I emphasise ignored by those who are in the power. The again that special efforts should be made to gap between the precept and practice still educate the illiterate farmers. Illiteracy is the persists. Madam. a day's or a month's good bane" of our farming community. rain is sufficient enough to meet the rear requirement of the people in the country. The Madam, the population growth is an- heavy rains in Andhra Pradesh in last couple other major problem which is crippling the of days is an example. All that we have to do nation today. Hwe go through the figures of IS to collect and store the waterforfuture use. population at the time of independence and An integrated planning is necessa!'Y for that the present day, we at once come to the purpose. But it is most unfortunate that there conclusion that our population well surpass is always a scarcity of funds to implement the the world No. I China population very soon. schemes to construct projects tor storing At the time of independence. though we had water. The standard reply 'no funds are lesser mouths to feed, we had no sufficient available is the ol'ly answer we get from the foodgrains to feed them. Fortunately. we are Government when any scheme comes up in a position to meet the requirements of the for implementation. We are able to find growing population. At the same time we enough funds for an. unproductive expendi- should not forget the fact that only the popu- ture. For productive purposes there will be lation grows and expands and not the land. no funds. It is most unfortunate. Unproduc- We should recognise that there is the elastic- tive expenditure is much more than the pro- ity only in the case of population and not in ductive expenditure. It is really very strange the case of land. Only blind and ignorant can 487 Demands tor Grants MAY 11,1990 Min. of Wafer Resoul'C8s 488 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Alin. of Agriculture

[Dr. VlSwanatham] worthy schemes. The National Front has promised many things for the weHare of afford to forget this truth. Hence everyone in farmers. They promised that there wiil be the country should recognise this fad and tremendous transformation of rural areas adopt family planning. Hwe are really inter- within a short span of time. But ironically, we ested in the welfare of country, we have no do not have even a Minister for Village other go but to control our population growth. Development. When they could not appoint Matching grants and efforts should be made a Minister for Village Development, I do not to grow foodgrains to meet the requirements understand .how they think of development of that population. Keeping the ecological of the viHages and villages. We have a Min- conditions in view, we should also decide the ister for Ocean Development, but we have crops which have to be grown in various no Minister for Village Development. It shows regions. The Government should work in how ·sincere they are about their election that direction. Madam, we have no dea!1h of promise. This is most unfortunate. One should talent. We should use the services of ex- not forget the fact that a village is not just perts. The 'Government should depend on synonymous with agriculture. Villagers are the expertise rather than its whims and fan- as important as agriculture. Hence there cies. Otherwise we will not progress. No should be an a1round development of vil- doubt, the cultivation methods in the country lage. A soldier protects the country and the have undergone changes. For example, we farme:- feeds him. The Government is pro- are using hybrid varieties now. But for use of viding aU facilities to the children of soldiers. the hybrid vanety, and high yield of food But the children of farmers wt!re totally production in the country would have re- neglected by the Government. While the son mained static resulting in many hunger of a soldier can expect a better job, the son deaths. Many more new methods should be of a farmer hilS no such opportunity. Soldiers introduced and science and technology chiktren can get all education facilities, while should be put to proper use to grow more the children of farmers have no such facili- food. ties. Even the farmers belonging to forward communities can not dream of such treat- Madam, coming back to the drinking ment to their children. Madam, it may not be water problem, many villages in the country possible to provide educational facilities to do not have drinking water facility even to each and everyone. 400/0 of our population is this day. The common Sight in our rural areas below poverty line. The Govt. can atleast is that though a canal runs alongside of a provide these minimum facilities to the chil- village, its water is not made available to the dren of the families which are below poverty villagers for drinking purposes: Villagers still line. H you can not do even this, at least depend on wells and ponds. This is not a provide education to their girls. By educating good practice. This water is not hygienic. a girt you wiD be educating the entire family. Though we have many experts around, no plans or programmes were evolved to pro- Madam. the allocation made for educa- vide protected water to the villagers. This is tion and family welfare is negligible. There i!\ most unfortunate. Dr. K;L.Rao, an eminent an explosion of population. Yet the alloca- engineer prepared a plan to link Ganga with tion for the family planning for this year is Rs. Cauvery. But his scheme has not seen the 100 crores. less than the previous year's light of the day. We have been squandering allocation. With this meagre amount, I do not away money, the way we throw grains at know how the Government can control the birds for feeding them. We are not able to population. Is it the view of the Govemment find money for a worthy scheme like K.L that there will be some sort of civil war and it Rao's scheme. The National Front has prom- w~llead to a reduction of population. If they ised heavens to the people for coming to think so. I am sorry for it. Now the family poor. Atleast this Government should see to planning in. the country is voluntary. But it that enough money' is made available to Madam, only when peopJe are educated 489 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA)Min. of Wafer Resoutr:ss 490 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agricululfl

they volunteer for family planning. In a coun- you for providing me an -opportunity: To try like where illiterates are more, the volun- make my maiden speech. tary adoption of family planning has no meaning. We may have to wait eternally till SHRI RAJ MANGAL MISHRA (Gopal- everyone in the country turns out to be a ganj): Madam Chairperson, I support the literate. I shudder to imagine the future of the Demands for Grants of the department of country if this voluntary system goes on Wafer Aesou'rces and the department of endlessly. Forcible methods were adopted Agriculture. I belong to Bihar. There are sometime ago which have been done away three types of land in the State-fertie land, with. now. China has succeeded in control- infertile land and barren land. The irrigation hng its population because of its forcmle projects are formulated n Bihar according to implementation of family planning. Madam, this dassification of land. There are lift irriga- in the name of voluntary adoption of small tion schemes and minor irrigation schemes family norm we are deceiving ourselves. I do in South Bihar. Similar schemes are there in not think that we will be more advanced than central Bihar atso. But in North Bihar, there China, if we have more population. People ar.e major schemes. The hon. Minister might may be iIIrterate. But those who are ruling the have observed that about one and a half lakh country are not illiterate. Hon'ble Members hectares of land is rendered uncultivable present in the House are not illiterate. But every year in North Bihar due to floods. The ho·.v many of us are speaking for the family standing crops and life and property get weHare. How many of us are pl.eading the destroyed. The Government of Bihar is no1 cause of family planning. Madam, the rea- able to control it. The rivers overflow its son why ~ am saying so much on family ban!

[Sh RaJmangal Mlshra] see the quantum of work also For example, when a partICular land holding produces 2 canals were constructed but our fields were mounds of paddy and the farmer IS be re- destroyed We could not 'TIake much prog- qUIred to give 3 Maundy of paddy to the ress In the field of IrrigatIOn I do not agree labourer from hiS stocks how can be make with the view that no progress has been progress Hence, before fiXing the wases of made dunng 40 years of Independence, the labourers, It has to be seen as to what will progress has certainly been made but It has be the contribution of the labourer In agricul- not been made to the deSired extent We are ture In ploughmg of the land and In harvest- farmers and today the farmers are In such a mg etc On the one hand, we say that we are conditIOn that they cannot irrigate their lands not giVIng proper treatment to farmers Their standing crops are destroyed by rain waters The water logging IS a serIOus prob In the matter of fixed deposits, Bihar lem In our regIOn The fertile fields remain tops the kst In the country But In the matter water-logged forthe wholeoftheyear When of development, It IS lagging behind the rest we asked about It and Chief Engineer replied of the States As per rule development In that you should grow those crops whICh agrlcuhure should have been accordln.g to consume more water Our land s very fertile the quantum of fixed deposrts But nobody and we raise crops like wheat nce and says anything about It sugarcane on It They adVise us to grow smghara In water-logged fields Our land IS Madam Chairman, as much as 40% of very fertile why should we grow slnghara the total reqUirement of sugar In the whole when there IS no market for It If sUitable country was being met from Bihar But what steps are taken to remove water logging. IS the present positIOn of sugar productIOn In provide proper Irrigation faCilities and control Bihar? Now, Bihar IS lagging behind In the floods In North Bihar we Will be able to matter of sugarcane production What are provide food to the entire country But no- the reasons for thiS You Will be astOnished body IS bothered about that As It IS Bihar IS to know that the Government took over 14 a poor state Over and above that Govern- sugar mills In Bihar and arrears to the tune of ment IS least concerned with ItS develop As 20 crores payable to farmers are stand- ment Ing against the Government The farmers are making repeated appeals for that but to Agriculture mainly depends on water no aVail When the farmers approach the Water IS life But In Bihar the river water has managers wrth apphcatlons In their hands for become so polluted that even the water of payment so that they could mMt the mar- Ganga IS not fit for consumption Earlier, nage expenses of their daughters, the water of Ganga did not stink, but now It stinks managers say that there IS no money In thiS and has become polluted Sewage waters of connection, representatIOn have been made Varanasl Patn~ and Kanpur are being to the hon MInister of Agriculture and the dramed out Into Ganga Ihereby making Its hen Prime MInister to ensure payment of water undrinkable Ganga Action Plan IS farmers' money Can not the Government being launched and work to purify Ganga extend even thiS much help to the farmers water IS also In progress But rt IS not satis- Arrears of payment and the produce of farm- factory If the Government pays proper at- ers are lying With the Government, but It IS tentIOn to agnculture, a lot of progress can be not making the payment Now, there are 14 made In agrtculture As a member of the mills underihe CorporatIon, but the quantum Janata Dar I would like to POint out that It has of productIOn IS far less What are the rea- been spelt In the manifesto of the Janata Oal sons for this? The reasons IS that the farmers that loans of farmers WIll be walled The do not get their own money New Sugar mills manifesto also promises minimum wages I have been set up In Uttar Pradesh, but no have no objectIOn If the minimum wages are new sugar mill can be set up In Bihar About fixed at Rs 36/- or Rs 40/- but we have to 40 lakh qumtals of sugarcane IS being pro- 493 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA)Min. of Water ResoufC8S 494 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agriculture

duced in a single district, West Champaran sitting here: He is aware of the BISCOMAN. in Bihar. The sugarcane produced in this But today, this company supplies very costly district goes to Uttar Pradesh, but the Gov- fertilisers to farmers. The farmers pay a ernment is silent over it I would like to appeal number of taxes viz. road tax, bullock cart that new sugar mills be set up in Bihar so that tax, education tax and house tax etc. and sugarcane produced in Bihar is not trans- other people maKe merriment at their cost. ported 10 Uttar Pradesh and the sugar is What is the plight of the farmers today. produced in the State itseH. Whom should I Please have a look at the appearance of the tell my grievances? farmers. The person who has no cIot~s in his body, who possesses only on tottered I would like to submit that so far none of cloth, who is barefooted, who puts on dirty the promises made by the Party at the time clothes and who is poor, is a farmer. Today, of electtons for the welfare of farmers have this is the identity of a farmer. Today, the been fulfilled In Bihar. The National Front situation is that the working class toils and Party had promised that farmers' loan upto the white collared people enjoy. That is why Rs. 10,000 will be waiVed. but now its and I want that the hon. Minister should pay buts are being added. What are the reasons attention to it and expedite the clearance of for that? Madam, the main thing is that the all the pending projects in Bihar and have farm&rs are being charged interest on their them executed early so that Bihar which loans much higher than the rate of Interest remained in the lead always in all agitations that prevailed dUring the Mughal regime. does not lag behind. In all the agitations, They are being charged compound rate of whether it was the freedom struggle or the interest. After every quarter, the amount of movement launched by Jai Prakash Nar- interest forms a part of the capital and inter- ayan, Bihar was always in the lead. It should est goes on multiplYing like this. ACcording to not happen that Bil-tar is constrained to take Money Lending Act, the total amount repay- the leadership of one more such agitation. able should not become double ot the origi- With th'ese words, Madam Chairman, I would nal loan amount. But in the case of loans like to thank you for providing me time to taken in Bihar 4 to B times at the original speak. amount is being recovered. I fail to understand as to why the rate of ,nterest is even SHRI K.D. SUL TANPURI (Shimla): higher than the r_te that prev'ailed during the Madam Chairman, will conclude within a Mughal regime. This practice has totally short time. First of alii am grateful 10 you for been prohibited through the private money providing me time to speak on Demands for lending Bill. We are not in favour of this Grants in respect of this Ministry. We should practice. As such, the banks should be suita- pay immediate attention to the plight of the bly instructed to refrain from this practice. farmers in our country. The farmers constitute 80 per cent of the total population of the Madam, when the farmers approach country. Some how or the other farmers in the banks for loans, the officials derriand our country are dependent 0" agriculture. their percentage. They categorically say that Either they cuhivate the land themselves or no loan can be paid if they are not given work as agriculture labourers. These agri- percentage. The farmers are made to wait culture labourers are being exploited by the for even five long days. Even then, they are landlords. Till date, they could n9t be granted not being paid the loan arno.unt whatever ownership of the land. As it is, this Govern- might be their requirement, say purchasing ment talks a lot about the farmers and gives pumpsets, tractor or seeds etc. There is a assurances that it will waive farmers' loans company call~ the BISCOMAN 2 in Bihar. upto Rs. 10,000 in each case. First of all we When the farmers purchase fertilisers from have to see as to who are those people who U.P., they get lot of concession. But they really received loans of Rs. 10,000 and have to pay much higher price if they pur- whether they really live below the poverty chase It from Bihar. The hon. Minister is line. Is it so that we are going to waive loans 495 Demands for Grants MAY 11, 1990 Min. of Water ResOUIC8S 496 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agriculture

[Sh. K.D. Sultanpurij scheme of loan waiver announced by the Government. in resped of those people who live above the poverty line? First of all, the Government will SHRIK.D.SUlTANPURI: It seems that have to identify as to how many people live my colleague did not appreciate my point. I below the poverty line and of them how many am trying to impress upon the point that big are Harijans, Adivasis and how many are Zamindars are also taking benefit of this backward. What is the income of the people waiver of loan scheme of the Government. whose loans are going to be waived? It has Small farmers, big farmers and agricultural also to be ensured that the annual income of labourers are all engaged in agriculture none of the above categories of people work. Under this loan waiver scheme, the exceed Rs. 7,000 p.a. because it has been Government did not pay attention towards accepted that people whose annual income small farmers and agricultural labourers. Only IS below Rs. 7,000 live below the poverty big farmers have taken benefits of this line. I find that the decision taken by the scheme for which they are not entitled to. Government to waive loans upto Rs. 10,000 Thus, the Government is trying to undo the IS benefiting big landlords only and no one green revolution. It would have been better if hving below the poverty line will be benefited the Government have said it clearly that loan by this decision and get some relief out of it. up to Rs. 10,000 of small farmers. agncul- If we look at the manifesto of the Janata Dal, tural labourers and Harijan and Adivasis we will come to know that they had given an alone will be written off. I could have under- assurance at the time of elections that they stooQ the usefulness of this scheme, if this will waive thQ loans of small farmers. But In provision has been made only for the poor practice, it appears that the Government is and the farm labourers who are forced to do not bothered about these poor people as begar in the fields of big zamindars. No such they had promised. It is unfortunate. Had the provision has been made by the Govern- Government made a provision of Rs. 1000 ment for these people. I come from Himachal emre In the Budget for purchase of land Pradesh and so are some other members construction of houses. promotion of agricul- who also come from hilly areas. The main ture for the agriculture labourers, I would problem in the Hilly areas is this that proper have appreciated that this Government had irrigation facilities are not available for agri- taken a right step for the welfare and the culture. Unless proper irrigation facilities are uplittment of the poor people. Just now one made available in the Hilly areas. cultivation of the members from Bihar was saying that work will not be undertaken property in these this Government had just not bothered to areas. Therefore. I would like tl') suggest that solve problems of the people. I fully agr~ proper irrigation facilities should be provided with him that the Government IS very care- in the Hilly areas. less. The present Government do not know about agrICulture. Today, the situation is Madam, although our scientists have such that the big landlords and the capitalists done an excellent job and contributed very have a lot of Benami land. They have land in much to increase food production in our the name of their pet dogs and cats even. I country with their research. Green Revolu- would like to say ...... (Intemlptions) tion has also ushered in our country due to their efforts, yet the Hilly areas where there SHRI SIJRYA NARAYAN YADAV is vast potentiality of planting fruit bearing (Saharsa): Madam Chairman, just now, an trees, could not reap benefit. A vast tract of hon. Member has stated that loans up to As. Government land is lying vacant in the for- 10,000 given to big landlords are also being ests near the villages. "this land is used for written off. I would like to point out that his planting fruit bearing trees by allotting it to information is not correct. loans up to As. the farmers on lease for plantation of trees, 10000 given to small farmers,labourers and it win not only help in checking soil erosion petty businessmen only corne under the but fruit bearing trees can be planted on this 497 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA)Mm of Water Resources 498 (Gen) 1990-91 & Mm of AgrICulture land and the economic condition of the farm- the poor people The Governmentgave them ers can also be Improved The Government right to franchise but did nothing to prOVide should pay attention towards this thing them right to work and to Improve their economic condition Therefore, I would like Madam, Chairman, the small farmers to make a request to the Members of all the should be given some subsidy for purchas- parties that all of us should cooperate to Ing tractors for agrlcuhure purposes so that solve thiS problem The members of the they can get benefit Tractors are very ex- Congress (I) and the Communist Party are pensive these days Due to rise In prices of dOing some work for these people but other diesel, small farmers are not able to pur- parties are not dOing anything for them chase tractors So far as purchasing It wrth Therefore, I would like to say to the people Bank loan IS concerned, banks have been not to fall Into the trap of big capitalists and rendered ineffective after thiS Government bUSiness men In Azadpur market In Deihl, came Into being You go to Haryana you Will the people from our Hilly areas bring their find that the functioning of the Banks has apples But they do not get reasonable pnces come to stand stili completely The Deputy and these people are being exploited by the Prime Minister Devi Lalls not present In the middlemen Their product IS purchased by House I am also one of the members of a the middlemen on cheaper rates and they Committee chaired by him I know that farm- are explOiting these people ers are not being benefited at all I would also like to submit that If the Government IS really [English] Interested In upllftment of farmers the costs of tractors and the price of diesel should be MR CHAIRMAN Kindly excuse me, reduced otherwise all those measures Will Shn Su~anpun At 3 0' Clock, the Minister be on paper only has to make a statement So, please conclude Madam Chairman the big land owners cultivate their lalld With the help of farm [ Translation] labourers but they do not allow them to be registered as share croppers As a result SHRI K D SUL TANPURI Madam, thereof the farm labourers do not get title of Chairman, I am gOing to conclude I would the land which they cultivate for which they like to submit that a market commrttee should are otherwise entitled to under the law They be set up to oversee middlemen who are are not recognized as share croppers, they explOiting the apple growers Th apples are deprived of the ownership right of that brought to the market by the apple growers land In such Circumstances. the farm la- should be auctIOned by the Government so bourers though, contribute a lot In growing that farmers can get reasonable rates of their crops but they remain landless produce Deihl IS the biggest market, particularly of frurts, of North India Fruits from Madam Chairman, I would also like to various parts are brought to Deihl In orderto make yet one more POint In thiS country, ensure remunerative prICes for the farmers, there are persons who enJoy all kind of special arrangements are reqUired to be faCilities and power There are somefamlhes made In Deihl whose one member be comes an I A S offICer and also owns land and the their 15.00 hrs. member becomes a Member of Parliament and for that matter whole family live In lUXUry I would like to submit one more IXllnt and comfort but on the other there are people that there are number of military cantonment who are poor, and landless labourers, they Sin my State C,v,lian populatIOn are also do not enJoy any nght Why It IS so? The there In those cantonments In Nahan, reason behind thiS IS that the Government Shim la, Solan, Sapatu cantonments In my dtd not strengthen the economic condition of Stat~, land IS cultivated neither by the mth- 499 Statt. by Mmister Grant of MAY 11,1990 VICtims in 500 Fin. Assistance to cyclone A.P., Tamil Nadu lite. [Sh K D Sultanpurr] grateful to the present Govemmant iitheydo justice to us and rectify the mistakes. tary men nor by anybody else, ownership right of that land should be transferred to the MADAM CHAIRMAN: Pleasecondude persons who are In possession of such land, now. so that they can cultivate that land. There is a colony of Ex-servicemen in Nahan canton- SHRI KD. SULTANPURI: Recently, ment whose area IS being extended. Th there was a hailstorms in Himachal Pradesh. Government of India have offered alterna- Teams have been sent by the Government tive land to the State Government in place of in all the places where there has been any land to be taken for that purpose. I would like kind of natural calamity but no team has so to request that the CIvil population should not far been sent to Himachal Pradesh. Crops be disturbed and they should be allowed to have been destroyed In Himachal Pradesh. remain there I would like to say that the There has been heavy loss of life and prop- CIVIlians liVing In the cantonment areas should erties In Sirmaur, Hamlrpur, Kangra, Bilaspur not be harassed They should be allowed to areas In Shimla and on the upper hilly areas. reap full benefits of crops raised by them on Funds should be prOVided to start relief work. the land In that areas They should be made Prime Minister should also visit these areas owner of that land Lift dnnklng water supply and if he IS not In a position to go there he scheme and 11ft Irrigation schemes should be should send one of his Ministers there to formulated to exploit water of the rivers flow- assess the damage with the help of State Ing through the hilly areas so that water Government. I think that funds should be could be made available throughout the year proVided to the State Government at the for plantation In the hilly areas Survey should earliest so that farmers of those areas may be undenaken and the State Government get benefit. should be asked to submit schemes to the Centre for prOViding finance for the same. so I am very grateful to you for giving me that Green Revolution may be ushered In time to speak. hilly areas also SatluJ river flows through our Hilly areas In fact. Satluj IS a river of Hima- [Engltsh] chal Pradesh Bhakra Dam constructed on thiS very river The foundation of thiS Dam MR.CHAIRMAN: Now, I call upon Mr. was laid by Pandlt Jawahdr Lal Nehru Due Upendra Nath Verma to make a statement. to construction of thiS Dam production of foodgralns Increased In Punjab The people of Hilly areas saCrificed their lives but they did not get due share In It. Himachal Pradesh 15.04 hrs. should get 7.19 per cent royallty of electriCity but we are getting 2 19 per cent royality only STATEMENT BY MINISTER on electriCity When the States of Punjab, Himachal Pradesh and Haryana were Grant of financial assistance to the fami- formed, It was agreed .lhat time that the lies of those who dies due to cyclone In Government would g _ _,.ijty on electriC- Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and the Ity at the rate of 7 19 percent'but It has so far Union Territory of Pondlcherry not been Implemented. [ Translation] SHRI DAU DAYALJOSHI: Askthem as to under whose regime, thiS injustice was THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE done? It IS the Government which was In DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- power perperated this Injustice MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICUL- TURE (SHRI UPENDRA NATli VERMA): SHRI K.D SUL TANPURI' We will be Sir, I, seek leave of the House to make a 501 Statt by Minister Grant VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 502 of Fm Assistance to cyclone (Gen) 1990-91 Mm 0/ Water VICtims In A P, Tamil Nadu ere Resources & Mm of Agriculture

statement regarding grant of financial assIs- to be either a farmer or a labourer In my view tance to the families of those who died due to not even a single useful scheme has been the recent cyclone In the states of Andhra formulated till now tor the farmers In thiS Pradesh, TamIl Nadu and Union Terrrtory of country If the farmers are being neglected PondlCherry Honourable Members may a'lywhere In the world It IS In India al'ld India recall that I had made a statement In the alone Till now consohdatlon of land was not House yesterday regarding some deaths as completed Nor could categorisatIOn of land a result of this calamrty According to the was done anywhere In the country ThiS latest figures avaIlable wrth us 72 persons IndICates how much Importance the Con- dIed In Andhra Pradesh 7 persons In TamIl gress Government had given tv ·"e farmers Nadu and 2 In Pondlcherry While express- The Congress Party has ruled thecoul,:-~for Ing his deep sympathIes and heart-felt con- about 45 vears and by giVing slogans ot dolences to the bereaved families the Dep- soclaltsm they have cheated labourers and uty Prime MinIster and Agr:culture MinIster farmers Now the Janata Oal has promised has deCided to grant Rs 25 0001 If" each In Its electIOn manifesto that loans of the case of death from the Indian People s N2tu farmers ~pto Rs 1a,OOD would be waived ral CalamItIes Trust But they have added rfs and buts to thiS pledge I would Irke to say It emphatICally that I would like once aga n to assure the If Janata Oal announces to waive loans they House that the Government of India IS keep should remove Ifs and buts from rt and waive Ing close watch on the Situation and WIll the loans of the farme's upto Rs 10,000 render all poSSIble asc;lstance as and wl,en WIthout laYing any condition requIred by thp affected State Governments So far as the question of Irrigation IS concerned I would like to tell about the data furnlsned by the offiCIals Our Project offi- 15.06 hrs Cials fill up the data about the agriculture production while sitting In block offices and DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL) according to that data Government have to 199091 make arrangement In the respective areas In our country phYSical countlrg of hve stock Ministry of Water Resources IS not done and only estimated figures are and furnished tothe Government Similarly infor- Ministry of Agrlculture-CONTD mation about agriculture IS also furnished whIle sItting at home and on the baSIS of ! Translation] information so collected dates are prepared by the State Governments and Central MR CHAIRMAN Mr Surya Narayan WI! dfnment and same IS laid on the Table of Yadav please make your submiSSIon In five the House That would not help farmers In minutes any way In their uphftment So long as the farmers, who consist of 80 per cent of our SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV population are not economically sound, you (Saharsa) Madam Chairman you have cannot make the country strong given me five mInutes tIme to speak but I hope that you WI" Increase It at your own I have been allotted five minutes time so because I hall from Bihar where flood causes now I would like to come to Water Re- havoc every year and also causes heavy sources Water resources IS a subject about loss to the farmers which' have heard that where water resources are available In abundance, agricul- Just now an hon Member Shn Raj ture crops are planned there accordingly Mangal Mlshra was saying that any bare We have also heard that It IS India alone footed and scanty clothed person was bound whICh experiences both food as well as 503 Demands for Grants MAY 11,1990 Min. of Water Resources 504 (Gen) 1990-91 & Min. of Agriculture

[Sh Surya Narayan Yadav] Bihar. Secondly, if we exploit the rich resources of fish available in North Bihar, drought and every year they destroy farmer's because of Its demand all overthe world, we crops would greatly help the agriculture sector. resources as well as means are available There IS nothing worse situation than there but till now they have not been ex- this In this country I would like to suggest ploited that more funds should be allocated In the plan head of the water resources because It I do not remember the year but once a appears the present Government have allo- talk was held between Indian Government cate funds to Water Resources Department and Nepalese Government and Nepal was taking Into conSiderations the earlter alloca- agreeable to generate power and supply to tions made durrng last 3-4 years It appears India on payment I would like that even on that the present Government has also thiS conditIOn if Nepalese Government agrees adopted the policy of neglecting the farmers to the constructIOn of dam KOSI rIVer at like prevIous Government Therefore, the Saharasa, our Government should readily hon MinIster should place for more funds for accept It If a dam IS constructed there, farmers and water resources and I assure Irrigation faclhty can be prOVided to the farm- that the Members w'lI not propose any cut on ers and the expenditure to be Incurred on the demands made by hIm As the Han Prtme payment for electrICity to the Nepalese MInister has made special prOVIsIon for the Government can be recouped with the reve- Defence Ministry In the Budget, SImilar ar- nue to be earned from fish trade likely to be ranqempnt for farmers and water resorces flOUrished after constructIOn of dams We should ,,1<;0 be made In the Budget and such have been spending Rs 100 crores on pro- demands Will definItely be voted by the House Viding rehef to the people annually for last 45 because thiS money belongs to the Villages years, so we are gOing to save that amount and should be spent on VIllages and not on every year too Therefore, Madam, I would the CIt IPS as the Government IS gOing to do like to say that you are In the char and can also suggest and direct the Government to Secondly you can see tbe Irony of North do It Bihar that every year the Central Govern- ment and the State Government spend Rs Madam, Chairman, I would like to say , 00 crares on relief measures and on repairs about IRDP Under thiS programme the poor of roads etc If the Indian Government talks people hVlng below poverty hne have to be to the Government of Nepal and channellse uplifted Under the programme some goats the water by constructing dam and utIlise were bought but they all died even before that water for Irrtgatlon and power genera- reaching at the dlstnct level Not even a tion North Bihar WIll be able to prOVIde Single goat could survive Not to say of their electriCity to the entire country and a vast uplrftment of the poor, they had to face tough area of t Jorth Bihar and Uttar Pradesh can time to save these goats Cattle In India live De prOVided With Imgatlon faCIlity But It cannot In a natural chmate We are not so advance be done because no prevIous Government to keep them In air conditIOned shelters. The have done It In last 48 years The present Government purchase Canadian goats and Government have Informed us that It IS agree pigs and give them for the upltftment of the to talk to the Government of Nepal In thiS poor You should promptly make Improve- regard I have Wrttten 2-3 letters to the Gov- ment In such schemes If you also prepare ernment I welcome the hon MinIster and plans SImilar to that of the Congress Govern- hope that he WIll tali< and enter Into agreement, the people of thiS country will not ment With Nepalese Government Whatever hesitate In rejecting you also ThiS change IS condition they may put regarding Irrtgatlon or the result of a starvatIOn and suffertngs ofthe electnclty that should be accepted You people Therefore, I would demand that should work for the progress of the entire suggestions of all the han. Members should 505 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA)Min. of Water ResoufC9s 506 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of Agriculture

be obtained through Advisory Committee for ready to extend loans to him. You have been formulating schemes, be it for ater Resource voted to power and you have formed the Department, Agriculture or any Of her depart- National Front Government but the poor ment and more and more villages should be farmer is in no way going to be benefited by developed induding these suggestions in ths. "Government has the will it should first the schemes and take prompt action for their of all waive of the loans and issue a certifi- implementation. cate to the farmer to this effect. It may, postpone the developmental projects. But Due to the shortage of time, I conclude unfortunately ooly announcements are being my speech and express my gratitude for made discussions are being held and legis- giving me time to speak. lations are being passed in the Parliament. Nothing worthwhile is being done. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA (Jhabua): Madam, Chairman, Irrigation and Here, I would like to make one thing Agriculture are two important departments in clear that we, who hail from rural tribal areas, our country. After independence, we have are aware of the fact that if you succeed in made a planned development and our colin- tangling the farmer in the loan waiver whirl- try has become self-reliant in matter if pool, it will turn out to be an unending vicious foodgrains. We-had constructed big dams circle. Today, the farmers are demanding for irrigation, set up fertilizer plants and pro- loans to be waived off . Tomorrow the hous- vided electricity to the farmers. I am happy ing agencies and subsequently the industri- that new Government have come to power alists will ask for it and a day will come when and it has promised in its election manifesto we will be looking for the recovery of loans in that farmer's loans would be written off. For vain. To my mind, we do not seem to be keen this purpose the Government have provided to safeguard our national interests while Rs. 1000 crores In the Budget and it is said sitting and discussing in this highest forum of that farmers loans up to Rs. 10,000 would be Parliament in view of all the political parties wr-itten off. I would like to say that for winning displaying the same tendency and inclina- votes and influencing voters we can say tion. We are, only discussing the overt and anything. But if we have to make develop- covert means that bring us to power and ment in the country or take the country make us capable of influencing public opin- ahead or if we want to become self reliant, ion in our favour. we have to formulate some other schemes. The cotton entrepreneurs extract huge Many speeches have been made here. sums of money in the shape of insurance Someone claims to be a farmer's leader and amounts from big insurance companies by some one call himself a farmer. I do not want setting ablaze some cotton but it is the farmer to go into it. I myself is a farmer. So far as the alone who dedicates himself honest '_' and question of waiving of loan IS concerned, I laboriously in his fields. He is not b.. Sled think every farmer has his own self respect. whether it is a Sunday or Saturday and he is Madam Chairman, you also know this thing unaware of the time. h is because of him that that a farmer never begs before anyone. we are producing this much and all the credit goes to him alone. The farmer will abstain In the course of these 42 years of lnde- from putting in labour once he gets trapped pendence, the Indian farmer had freed him- in this vicious cycle. This will ultimately lead self from the dutches ofthe exploiters. Today this country of 80 crore people near starva- he is befoliling himself under the delusion tion. I do not think that the country is going to and waiting for the day when his loan will be be benefited by these enticing slogans. "waived off and a certificate to this effect issued to him. This is why not a single This loan waiver slogan has hurt the nationalised bank or a co-operative bank or self-respect of the farmer who was by and by any other financial agency for that matter is drifting away from his exploiters. The Indian ' 507 Demands for Grants MAY 11,1990 Min. of Water Resources 508 (Gen.) 1990-91 & Min. of AgricuJure

[Sh. Dileep Singh Bhuria] Madam Chairman, you can see for yourself that the dairy owners of Gujarat farmer was aware of the fact that he shall construct the village tink roads and village have to repay the loan taken by his father or schools themselves. Our colleague, Shri grandfather. This consciousness contributed Kotadia also hails from Gujarat. We should to his honesty and self-respect. Butthe loan endeavour, people's participation and waiver slogan has hit both honesty and self- involvement-this should not be confined to respect. This should not have been done. I the monetary aspect alone but other re- understand that the Government would fulfil sources of development as wefl. its declaration once it has mad& it, or fulfil the other promises made in their manifesto, other I would like to make a point or two with than the waiving of loans upto Rs. 10,000. regard to irrigation as well. There is much talk about Narmada Project now-a-days and So far as agricultural research is con- everybody puts forth his opinion about it. I cerned, I can say that we can conduct re- would like to point out here that the Govern- search in the hilly regions which are in plenty ment of Madhya Pradesh is in a dilemma in in our country. Oil seeds and Soyabean can this regard. At times they say that the height be grown on the hilly slopes of tribal areas. of the dam should be reduced and a techni- We should, therefore, open research centres cal committee should be constituted to ex- to examine the scope of increasing agricul- amine it and sometimes they say that a tural production In such areas and other status quo should be maintained. I would like rocky areas. There was a proposal of open- to ask the hon. Minister to depute his techni- ing a research centre in my constituency, cal personnel there so as to confirm what the Jhabua, but nothing concrete has come up Government of Madhya Pradesh realty till now in that area. Oil seed farming should wants? You should make it cleartothem that be encouraged in such areas by opening the people at large are going to be benefited research centres there. We are not self- by the construction of this dam. Fertile lands sufficient in oil as yet. People have a special and h9uses should be allotted elsewhere to attachment towards the schemes and pro- those whose im movable property has sub- grammes launched by the previous Govern- merged under the dam water and schools ment, particularly, schemes of rural develop- should be constructed in order to impart ment giving subsidies and other benefits to education to their children. All these facilities the poor should be made available to them so that they can lead a comfortable life. There is an These schemes cannot be successful acutQ shortage of drinking water in most of unless we involve the common people in our States-be it Madhya Pradesh, Rajast- them. The hon. Minister IS not present here han or Gujarat. There is need to construct but I would like to ask him how he would bring multipurpose dams today that can supple- the poor people of the country and those ment water both for irrigation as well as for liVing below the poverty line at par with the drinking purposed. Such type of schemes rest of the people In the society? This can be and projects need to be formulated in our achieved only when we give them financial country today and this can be achieved if we assistance if they need it and technical guid- make arrangements for storing and conserv- ance whenever and wherever necessary. ing water in deserts and hilly areas. We are Morality demands it. Roads should be con- distressed at the heavy casuality in Andhra structed and other developmental activities Pradesh and T ami! Nadu that was hit by a should be undertaken In the villages under cyclonic storm. At places, people pine for these schemes if we are really interested in days together for a sip of water. How can we the upliftment of the people. A reference wa.s develop our hilly regions and jungles under made to Green Revolution but this can be these circumstances? How can farming be achieved only when all the resources are done in the absence of adequate water? made available to the farmers. Small dams can be constructed to facilitate 509 Statt. by MInister VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Viii. of Fatehpur 510 Incident of Sato Darampur Dlstt., U.P. farming Similarly, small projects where water If the support pnce of wheat IS Increased by could be stored and tl-}en distributed through Rs 15 In fact, JustICe cannot be meted to canals to fields should be constructed (In- him unless the farmer is paid the real value terruptIons) of the Input of labour made by hiS wife, children and himself I was saying that lot of progress has been made In the field of horticulture In small With these words, I thank you for giving countries like Australia. Bangkok and Thai- me an opportunity to speak land etc and all the species of fruits are being grown there We should. therefore, develop our horticulture also besides mod- ernlsmg the Indian farming so that the eco- nomIC condition of the farmers gets better [EnglJsh) Much progress can be made If we pay attention towards thiS aspect oWing to our favour- MR CHAIRMAN Before we take up able gee-climatiC conditions and hilly re- Private Members' BUSiness, I now call upon gions For thiS purpose adequate marketing the MInister for Labour and Welfare Shn arrangements should be made, remunera- Ram Vilas Paswan to make a suo motu tive prices should be given to thi farmers statement on the mCldent at Sato Dharam- and they should be t reed from the clutches of pur Village of Fathepur Dlstnct of Uttar the middlemen Pradesh

The only thing that the new M Ps harp 15.33 hrs. on today IS that the prevIous Government has achIeved nothing But 1can say that they [MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER In the Cha/1 can evaluate the developmental activities of the prevIOus Government only after the expiry STATEMENT BY MINISTER of the 5 year term when they can compare the achlPvements Then and only then Will Incident at Sato Dharampur Village of they come to know that governance IS like a Fatehpur District of Uttar Pradesh bottomless ocean and there IS no way out of It once somebody ventures Into It Hence, [ Trans/atlon] leaving these trifling Issues aSide we have to see what the Government wants to do for THE MIN'STER OF LABOUR AND the farmers Tall claims are being rT'ade WELFARE (SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN) about Irrigation and agriculture Hon Deputy In deep anguish I Wish to Inform the House of Prime Minster IS taking keen Interest In these the unfortunate inCident of crime against a things but the farmer has not been benefited Scheduled Caste In Sato Dharampur Village In any way stili now Issues like the policy of Fatehpur DlstTlct, which has attracted formulation for the progress and develop- conSiderable pubhc attention ment of the farmer the Government's agricultural and Irngatlon poliCies etc should be Accordmg to the report of the District categorICally stated In Japan the support Magistrate, Fatehpur, one Shn DhanraJ. aged prices for the crops IS declared In advance 23 years, son of Sh Saukhl, Scheduled but In our country It IS declared later so there Caste. reSident of Sato Dharampur. PS IS some scope for Improvement In thiS re- Asothar was beaten and set on fire by sprin- spect The other day the support prices kling kerosene 011 over him by two brothers were announced and an Increase of Rs 12- S/Shrl RaJu and Gulab Singh of the same 13 was made The price of OlliS around Rs Village on 5th Apnl, 1990 Shn DhanraJ was 30 32 The farmer IS nol gOing to be bene- admitted to a private nursing home. as the fited even If the pnce rises to Rs 50 Like- Government doctors were on strike at that wise the f ~rmeT would not be benefrted even time He succumbed to hiS InjUries on 6th 511 Statt. by Minister MAY 11,1990 ViII. of Fatehpur 512 Incident of Sato Darampur Distt., U.P.

[Sh. Ram Vilas Paswan] the late Shri Ohanraj. I would also request the Hon'ble Members to join me in conveying April, 1990, before his dying declaration could the deepest sympathies tothe'affected family. be recorded. It has been reported that members of the family of the deceased and KUMARI UMA SHARATI (Khajuraho): villagers brought the dead body to the Col- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to know lectorate at Fatehpur and demanded com- about the steps which have been taken to pensatIOn/arrest of the accused. Rs. 2000/- provide security to that Harijan woman were Immediately paid as mterlm relief. A Kucchi; who is being forced to re-marry by case No. 56190 under SectIOn 302 Indian the police. Penal Code was registered at P.S. Asothar against RaJu Singh (age 25 years) and Shri SHRI DllEEP SINGH BHURIA: Mr. Gulab Smgh (age 22 years). Deputy Speaker, Sir, as reported in some newspapers, the wife of the deceased is The Superintendent of Pollee vIsited the running from pillar to post in Delhi as she IS spot. Effective action under SectIOn 82/83 of being intimIdated by the police. I would like to the Code of Criminal Procedure was taken know as to what has been done to give her against both the accused persons who sur- protectIOn. rendered In the Court on 11 .4.1990 and were sent to Jail. A charge-sheet was submitted against them In the Court on 22.4.1990. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: I have Necessary deployment of force has also already said that the Government not only been made In the Village. express their concern over any reported case of atrocity and Injustice committed agaInst scheduled castes, scheduled tribe A flnanl"'lal aid of Rs. 10,000/- has been or any women but take effective steps also. given to family of the deceased and four I shall surely look into the Issues raISed by blghasof land has been allotted to the family. han. Members. However, I would like to say In addition, It IS understood, that the Chief that suC;h things are disgrace to our socIety Minister, Uttar Pradesh , hasglven Rs. 15,000/ and country and thiS incIdent should be - from hiS discretionary funds. An amount of treated as a SOCIal one. Such Incidents should Rs. 20,0001- has also been given from the be condemned wherever they take place. Prime Minister's Relief Fund to the victim's Fatehpur is not an Isolated case. Stringent family actIOn must be taken In any such inCIdent.

.... ( Ints"uptions) .... I take thiS opportunity to reiterate that thiS Government IS determined to stamp out all atrocities and crimes against Sche-r Jled SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: I would Castes and Scheduled Tribes Thp 3tate hke to know one thing more Governments have earlier been ack. essed and are again being addressed to take aU necessary punitive and rehabilitative meas- ... .(/nte"uptions) .... ures In thiS as well as all other such cases of atroCities a~ other crimes against these most vulnerable sections of our people and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Han. Mem- also all measures to prevent such crimes ber may see the Minister and get his doubts against them. cleared.

~~I request the Hon'ble Members to JOin me In oondemnlng such a crlmmal act upon 513 PMBR Comm. Report VAISAKHA'21. 1912 (SAKA) PUB Introduced 514~~

~~15.37 hr •. for their welfare ...~~

~~COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS' The Motion was adopted BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: I intro- Fourth Report duce the Bill.~~

~~[Eng/ish] 15.39 hrs.~~

SHRI KIRPAL SINGH (Amritsar): I beg BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION to move: WORKERS (CONDITIONS OF EMPLOY- MENT) BILL* 'That this House do agree with the Fourth Report of the Committee on SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISHRA Private Members' Bills and Resolu- (T amluk): I beg to move for leave to intro- tions presented to the House on the duce a Bill to protect building and construc- 1Oth May, 1990: tion workers and to provide for their minimum wages, security of job, and such other MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- health and welfare measures for them as are tion is: provided for in various labour and industrial laws in force in India. "That this House do agree with the Fourth Report of the Committee on MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- Private Members' Bills and Resolu- tion is: tions presented to the House on the "That leave be granted to introduce a 10th May, 1990." Bill to protect building and construction workers and to provide for their mini- The motion was adopted mum wages, security of job, and such other health and welfare measures for them as are provided for in various labour and industrial laws in force in 15.38 hrs. India." The motion was adopted EMPLOYMENT BILL * SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISHRA: I intro- SHRI ANADI CHARAN OAS (Jajpur): I duce** the Bill. beg to move faT leave to introduce a Bill to provide for employment to all adult citizens 15.40 hrs. by engaging them In nation building activities and to provide for their welfare. CONSTITUTION (SCHEDULED TRIBES) ORDER (AMENDMENT) BILL* MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is· (Amendments of the SchedUle)

"That leave be granted to introduce a [Trans/ation] Bill to provide for employment to all adult citizens by engaging them in SHAI UTTAMRAO PATIL (Yavatmal): nation building activities and to provide Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill

~~·Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part II, Section 2 dated 11.5.90~~

~~··Introduced with the recommendation of the President. 515 PMB Introduced MAY 11,1990 PUB IntrodUCfld 516~~

[Sh. Uttamrao Patil) 15.41 hr•. further to amend the Constitution (Sched- MOTHER'S LINEAGE BILL uled tribes) Orders, 1950." [ Translation} [English] KUMARI UMA BHARATI (Khajuraho): MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques· Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill tion is: to prQvide for the right to trace one's lineage from the side of one's mother. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution [Eng/ish) (Scheduled Tribes) Orders, 1950.- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- The motion was adopted 110n is:

~~[Translation) "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for the right to trace SHRI UITAMRAO PATIL: I introduce one's lineage from the side of one's the BiU. mother,"~~

~~The motion was adopted. 15.40 112 hrs_ [ Translation) CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL· KUMARI UMA BHARATt: I introduce (Amendment of Article 155) the Bill.~~

~~[ Translation]~~

SHRI~KASH KOKOBRAHMBHATI 15.41112 hrs. (Baroda): Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Consti- R.ESERVATION OF VACANCIES IN tution of India. POSTS AND SERVICES (FOR SCHED- ULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED [English] TRIBES) BILL·.

MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: The ques- [ Translation] tion is: "That leave be granted to introduce a SHRI CHHAVIRAM ARGAL (Morena): Billfurtherto amend the Constitution of I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to India." provide for adequate representation of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in The motion was adopted the posts and services under the Govern- ment of India. [ Translation] [English] SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHAIT: I introduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is:

~~'Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part II, Section 2 dated 11.5.90 517 PMB Introduced VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) PUB Introduced 518~~

UThat leave be granted to '"troduce a [Translation] Bill to provide for adequate representation of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in 15.421/2 hr•. posts and services under the Government of India." WORKING WOMEN WELFARE BILL-

The motion was adopted KUMARI UMA BHARATI: Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide [Translation] for the welfare of women employed in various industries and establishment. SHRI CHHAVIRAM ARGAL: I Intro- duce the Bill. [English]

~~MR. DEPU1Y -SPEAKER: The question IS:~~

"That leave be granted to introduce a 15.42 hrs. Bill to provide for the we Hare of women employed in various industries and MARGINAL FARMERS AND AGRICUL· establishment. TURAL WORKERS· FAMILY SECURITY BILL" The motion was adopted

~~[ Translation] [ Translation]~~

~~KUMARI UMA BHARATI. Sir, I beg to KUMARI UMA BHARATI: I introduce move for leave to Introduce a Bill to provide the Bill. for Security to the families of Marginal farmers and agricultural workers~~

~~[English} 15.43 hr~_~~

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The ques- CONs;rnur1ON (AMENDMENT) BILL- tion IS: (Substitution of new article for aeticle "That leave be granted to Introduce a 263) Bill to provide for security to the families of margmal farmers and agncul- [ Translation] tural workers - SHRI PRAKASH KOKO The motIon was adopted BRAHMBHATI: Sir,lbegtomoveforleave to introduce a Bill further to amend the [ Translation] Constitution of India.

~~KUMARI UMA BHARA TI I Introduce [English] the Bill. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is:~~

~~·Publlshed In Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part II, Section 2 dated 11.5.90 5t9 PMS IntrQdUC9d MAY 11, 1990 PMS IntrodUC9d 520~~

"That leave be granted to introduce a Code of Civil Procedure, 1908. Bill further to amend the Constitution Qf India.· MR. DEPUTY-.-SPEAKER: The question is: The motion was adopted "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Code of Civil [Translation] Procedure, 1908.·

~~SHRI PRAKASH KOKO The motion was adopted BRAHMBHA TT: I introduce the Bill. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMACHAN- DRAN: I introduce the Bill. 15.43 112 hrs.~~

~~CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL· 15.44 1/2 hr••~~

~~Insertion of new Part XVIA [ Translation]~~

~~[English] PROVISION OF EMPLOYMENT BILL·~~

SHRI C.P. MUDALA GIRIYAPPA (Chi- SHRI PRAKASH KOKO tradurga): Sir, I beg to move for leave to BRAHMBHATT: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I introduce a Bill further to amend the Consti- beg to move for leave to introdlJce a Bill to tution of India. provide employment toone memberof every family. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is: [Eng/ish]

"That leave be granted to introduce a MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- Bill further to amend the Constitution of tion is: India: "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide employment to one The motion was adopted member of every family.-

~~SHRI C.P. MUOALA GIRIYAPPA: The motion was adopted introduce the Bill. [Trans/ation]~~

15.44 hrs. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATT: I introduce the Bill. CODE OF ·CIVIL PROCEDURE (AMEND- MENT) BILL· 15.45 hr•• (Amendment of Section 34) CITIZENS (PROVISION OF COMPUL- [English] SORY HOUSING) BILL·

~~SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHAN- [ Translation] DRAN (Cannanore): Sir, I beg to move for SHRI PRAKASH KOKO leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the BRAHMBHATT(Baroda): Mr. Deputy~~

*Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part II, Section 2 dated 11.5.90 521 Youth Bill by VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan Mo/Iah 522

Speaker, Sir, I beg to move for leave to the people under 45 years of age, are pro- introduce a Bill to provide for a house to posedto be considered as youth. This means every citizen of the country_ that at least 113rd of the youth are surely illiterate as their number is 11 crore in the [English] age group of 15-35 years. The existing education system introduced by Macaulay MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- has been a clerk producing system. tion is: It is unfortunate that even after inde- "That leave be granted to introduce a pendence we have been treading the same Bill to provide for a house to every path and during the past five years the youth citizen of the country_" saw a ray of hope that they would be heading towards prosperity and their aspirations The motion was adopted revived with the onset of the new educational policy because the reins of the govemment [ Trans/ation] of India were in the hands of a youth itself but the result is evident_ Now that in the name of SHRI PRAKASH KOKO the new educational policy a westem pre- BRAHMBHAIT: I introduce the Bill. dominance has emerged and an education totally akin to the Doon-culture seems to be all pervasive_ Navodaya Vidyalayas have been opened and crores of rupees spent on 15.46 hrs. them_ But what are the results now_ How far have our rural youth been benefited from YOUTH BILL-CONTD_ them? Navodaya Vidyalayas are today virtually meant for the children of the bureaucrats [Eng(ish] and the industrialist and the rural youth are the least benef~ed from them_ The figures MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We will now provided by the previous Government re- take up further consideration of the following vealed that only 5,37,000 villages out of motion moved by Shri Hannan Mollah, on India's 5,80,000 villages have Primary the 26th April, 1990, namely:- sehools_ Thousands of Indian villages do not have the facility of a Primary school even "That the Bill to provide for a compre- today _The Government conceded last year hensive policy for the development of that 1,72,000 Primary schools do not have the youth in the country. be taken into the buildings of their own_ Leaving other consideration_ " areas of development aside, we could not even provide a Primary School to every [ Trans(ation] Indian villages after so many years of inde- pendf3nce. On the other hand, the efforts SHRI RAOHA MOHAN SINGH (Mo- made in the preceding years in the name of tihari): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the earlier the new educational policy have contributed debate on the 'youth policy' had remained to make the future of the youth of this country inconclusive after some discussion related more bleak_ The most surprising aspect of it to their education_ On that day, I had stated is that it is Sanskrit alone that acquaints us that the youth constitute 1!3rd of the total w~h Indian her~age, culture, traditions and illiterate population_ At the time of Independ- the ideals and glory of our ancestors but ence, the country had 6 erore literate people Sanskrit can nowhere be traced in the new and 30 erore iIIiterate_ According to figures educational policy. There is no provision for available for the last year, their number was teaching Sanskrit in Navodaya Vidyalayas. 25 crore and 43 erore respectively _Accord- Malpractices in the field of education re- ing to the Bill, which is under consideration, mained a hot news last year. There has been 523 Youth Big by MAY 11, 1990 Shri Hannan Mollah 524

(Sh Radha Mohan Singh] youth were registered in different Employ- ment Exchanges in India upto 1984 but the large scale bungling involVing crore of rupees ftgures upto the last year I.e. four and half In the cases of transfers of 185 teachers of years reveal thatthe number of unemployed the Kendnya Vtdyalayas The press termed people has nsen to three crore and fifty lakh It 'mini Boffors' In the field of Kendnya ThiS means an Increase of one crore and Vrdyalayas those days In thIs manner, In the fifteen lakh unemployed youth In Just four preceding years In the name of the new and a half years TI,ere IS an apparent rea- educatIOnal polICY they have played with the son forthls Due to the unrestricted advent of future of the country's youth A prOVIsion of foreign companies In thiS country lesser Imparting free educatIOn has been made In employment opportunitIes were generated this Bill I would suggest that a proVISIOn for and as a result thereof there was constant Impartmg free educatIOn upto degree level Increase In unemployment 'do not want to and also upte diploma level rn case of tech- elaborate more on thiS Issue but would Irke to nical educatIon should be Incorporated In say that the number of youth IS on constant the Bdl Th,s IS because there are many Increase In the oountry Accordrng to the Intellrgent youth rn India who cannot afford to latest frgures, there were 45 erore youth In continue their studies due to poverty I feel 1950 In the whole world and their number that no poor student can afford to acqUire rose to 51 crore In 1960 In 1986 their num- educatIOn upto M A level but I think that bertouehed 85erores and It IS estimated that such poor students should at least get edu- until the much talked 21st century there catron upto graduate level In thIS country It would be 118 crore youth In the whole world IS therefore very Important that there should be a prOVISIOn for free educatIon upto degree Mr Deputy Speaker, SIr, the rate of level In a SImIlar manner If an intelligent growth In the populatIOn of youth IS different youth cannot become an engineer due to hiS '" different CQuntnes It IS less," the devel poverty, he should be able to acquIre free oped countnes and more In the developing eduoatlOn atleast upto dIploma level so as to ones The problems of IndIan youth can be become at ledst an overseer In vIew of tnlS, dIvided mto two categones because there t! IS necessary to Impart free technICal edu- are two categories of youth In India The catIon upto dIploma level I WIsh both these youth belongIng to the frrst category belong proVISIons be Incorporated In th,s SIll to affluent class and prosperous famlhes of the crtles and metropolises These youth do So far as adult educatIon IS concerned, not have any baSIC problem but they are theIr thIS programme was launched WIth the sole own creatIOn Theie subservIence to the objectIve of educating the rural youth In the western cultural awakening that hes In sharp country but I dare say that It IS very regretful contradICtIOn to the IndIan cu~ural tradItIon that a mockery of the rural youth has been constitutes theIr pastIme They treat therr made In the preceding years In the name of own CIVIlizatIOn as orthodox and conven adult edUcatIOn Mr Deputy Speaker, SIr, tlonal and It IS unfortunate that thiS class of you may send for the list of the student:; of youth IS called the real youth of IndIa and adult education centre of any locality and claIms to lead the youth of IndIa today you wIn find names of the educated hlQh school and college youth of the VIllages regIstered thereIn," place of Ilhterate rural The othercJass of youth has been strug- folk Their names have been shown In the Itst g"ng and facIng hardshIps of the low and of these avaIling asult education Just. now mIddle class famIlies of VIllages, towns. cit- one of our colleagues was speaking In the Ies and metropolitan citIes You can find thiS context of employment I do not want to go class alone struggling rn every field Educa- deep Jn10 that but I would like to say thiS tIon IS the means of livelihood for trns cate- much that for the past few years two crore gory Government or private emplovment 15 and thirty-three lakh educated 'Jnemployed the maIn objectIve and uhlmately the subser- 525 Youth Bill by VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan AfoIIah 526 vience to the affluent and elitist class is its education may not be in a position 10 go fate. because he does not have the means 10 continue his studies. As against that. a per- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Radha son. whose 10 is less and who cannot pass Mohan, you are not here to read out but to after a certain stage is getting the chance deliver your speech. because he is coming from a family which can afford to send him for higher studies. SHRI RADHA MOHAN SINGH: Both The author of this Bill has stated tt,at upto a the aspects are crystal clear. There is a certain level. compulsory education should marked difference between the standards of be there. After that, people should be given IiviRg and thinking of the aforesaid two cate- scope to get chance according to their merit. gories of youth in India. I would, therefore, Insist on having a uniform and comprehen- 16.00 hrs. sive policy for Indian youth. With these words, I support this Bill for your with the request for Now, I visited recently U.S.S.R. for 15 an amendment to include the words 'com- days, They have a camp called Pioneer prehensive and uniform youth policy' in place Camp in which all the children are taken and of comprehensive youth policy alone. With tested in such a manner thcit after the test, these words, I support the Bill. the Camp authorities will give a card to the parents to the effect that, this particular boy [English) can be a good pilot, can be a good engineer, can be a good naval man, can be a good SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (Tripura teacher, can be a good sportsman. He iden- West): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at the very tities the boy where he should go. If a person outset I congratulate the Member who has does not have the IQ for higher level of introduced this Bill. h is a well-thought, nicely education, there is no point in sending him. drafted and well-intended Bill. The youths of By the method of testing the boy in the camp, the country whether it is India or anywhere in they identify in what actual line the boy the world should be asset and not liability. should go. But in India, we do not encourage. Unfortunately youths have become a liability Though our poPtJiation is 80 crores, we_ do In our country today. We have seen the groof not get a single gold medal in Olympics or in of this in this House. Whenever the previous Asian Games. Asian Games s' a limited Government and the present Government competition but there also our success is tried to solve and counter the problem of poor. at is because a sportsman who is in terrorists in Pun)3b, Kashmir or Assam, they Delhi, Bombay or cclIcufta has got more have identified the unemployed youth as exposure to get chance than the boy hailing one of the causes. They say that the unem- from the rural areas. A good player who may ployed youth are being carried away by be in a remote village, will not get the chance certain sections of the people who be~eve in because we do not get them at the young terrorism. They are drifted in that way be- age and coach them properly. cause of our present education system. Af- ter the education, the avenues of living a The previous speaker has criticised good liie for the youth today are so much about Navodaya Vidyalaya. What is the idea restricted that it becomes impossible for a of Navodaya Vidyalaya. It is free for all to young person to get a fruitful work for him for those who can compate and get themselves which he has been educated. Now, here in qualified to get into the Navodaya Vidyalaya. this Bill, the author has identified the areas Now it is true that certain sections of the which are our main areas of problem and he society are sending their wards to Docn has tried to enlighten this House and through School, public schools like 51. Stephen, 51. this House this Government about the basic Xavier College and other convent schools problems which the youths are facing today. where they can afford to send. At the same A boy who has got the merit to go upto higher time, there are students in the remote areas 527 Youth BiN by MAY 11,1990 Shri Hannan MoIIah 528

[Sh. Sontosh Mohan Dev] text-books are not available. Unless the students get the text-books, what is the use of Tripura, West Bengal, Arunachal Pradesh of education and how they will get educa- whose parents cannot afford to send them to tion? There should be some method bv a good school, not to speak of Doon school. which the Government should arrange the They cannot send to any Central School. In textboks either through voluntary organisa- Navodaya Vidyalaya, after testing the stu- tions or Government organisation. dents in a competition, you pick up the best boys. I have visited schools in Arunachal There are as many as thousands of Pradesh and I have seen 90 percent of the schools in village areas where they do not boys and girls are very brilliant. The best of have the pucca rooms. Many times the tents them havA come out. Now the poor family are blown out in cyclone or storm. They do cannot afford to put its wards in public schools. not have money to repair it. The Government But their children are getting good education should start giving money under NREP to in Government schools, Navodaya schools, at least at the primary level. I have Vidyalaya. Most of the boys are from the also noticed that at some places, the money poor and downtrodden families. which was given for primary school education had been utilised properly, but at some We have said about the free schooling. other places, it had not been utilised. The The Mover of the Bill has said about the money which is given is not sufficient. There educational facilities to be given to the stu- are schools where it is not possible for the dents and free scholarships to be given. students to read. There should be an Act to this effect. Now that we have got the Ministry for Youth In Bangladesh, they have done one Welfare, they should think about it seriously. very good thing. They do not allow any more But they are doing everything on ad hoc new schools to be established. The schools basis so far. No Act has been passed by this have morning and evening shifts. Govern- Government or by the previous Govern- ment is making free electricity supply to all ment. schools. They provide teachers for the morning and evening shifts. Classes are stag- I appreciate the aims and objects men- gered in the morning and afternoon. So, the tioned in the Statement of Objects and schools which are already there are being Reasons of this Bill. The Government should well-looked after. come forward to accept some of the objects. At least, they should give an assurance on We are trying to establisl) as many the floor of the House that in future they are schools as we can. It is good that some going to introduce a Bill wherein so many of teachers are getting appointments. But, have the ideas which have been given here like you made any evaluation? Arethese schools compulsory and free educational facil~ies to in a pos~ion to give real education to our youths upto secondary school level, free children? No. supply of materials like books, note-books, stationery should be incorporated. I origi- What are our children learning from TV? nally come from the State of Assam. In In Jaintia and Garo hills, children see Bang- Assam, recently one ex-Minister has gone ladesh TV and, therefore, they know that Mr. on hunger strike along with some students. Ershad is the President of Bangladesh. They An assurance was given that text-books know it because they are seeing every day would be supplied by the Textbook Printing Bangladesh TV, not India TV. Indiann TV Association of Assam, which is a Govern- does not reach there. ment organisation. But 80 per cent of the school boys and girls have not got their This is how we are creating a situation textbooks so far. They are supposed to go whereby the future of our youth is not being according to the syllabus. But unfortunately, built in the proper manner. 529 YfI}Uth Bin by VAISAKHA 21. 1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan Mol/Bh 530

in view of this. I fully agree with the idea ing. vision of the future and many other of this Bill which is sponsored. It is a well- things are there. May I request the Members though out Bill. I do not want to go into the not to repeat the points which have been detaifs of this Bill. But. at the end when the made and if Members are making the points. hon. Minister replies. he should not merely I may be allowed to remind them that they· ask the Member to withdraw it. I think trom are repeating the points. Shri Nakul Nayak the Government side. they should come will not speak, forward because the Prime Minister himseH has said that new education policy is going to [ Translation] be enunciated by this Government. Well. if you think that previous Government policy SHRI NAKUL NAYAK (Phulbani): Mr. was wrong. you are allowed to change it Deputy Speaker Sir, The Youth Bill has been because you have got the mandate with the brought forward in this House by the Hon'ble support of the left and the BJP. But do not Member Shri Hanan Mollah.1 rise to speak a forget that too many changes in the educa- few words in support of the Bill. Sir, the tion policy also make the students confused, youths comprises the majority of the total 1()+2. 11+2. one after another. The volume population in the country. The problems of of books one has to purchase and the vol- the youths are many. We are not able to ume of answers to be given is very high. The resolve theirproblems. They are the future of other day I learnt that in Calcutta a question the nation. So, there is a need to take all was asked by a te'acher to a student about possible steps for the development of youths. arithmetic for admission in KG Class and the But it is regrettable that we do not have any Chief Minister has very rightly said "Let the comprehensive polICY for the development teacher answer first. let him come and the of youths in the country. I am glad that the students will ask and the students willleam." Hon'ble Member Shri Hanan Mollah has Children going to schools are burdened with introduced a Bill of similar nature. So I wel- books. come this timely Bill.

In vIew of this, there should be a prag- Sir, it is regrettable that the youths in our matte approach to education. Youth can be country are being misguided and also being monitored properly. I fully support thiS Bill exploited by the vested interests. Even the and again appreciate the draft of thIS Bill and students also following wrong paths. They I hope that hiS efforts will not go in vain. are following evil practices. This will lead the nation to anarchy if we do not make a deep Government should come with specific study on their problems and work for their assurances so that we can see something prospects. Unless we work for alround prog- coming in the next Session of the House. fess of the youths, they will join hands with the anti social elements and will create a Thank you for allowing me to partici- problem for the society . Take the example of pate. Punjab and Jammu and Kashmir. Thou- sands of youths had crossed over to Paki- MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: The time stan ana came back after taking trC1ining to allotted for this Bill was two hours. By now, create terror in India. Crossing over and one hour and 15 minutes have been con- infiltration are still going on. 'Why the youths sumed. The time remaining is very short, crossing over the border? Why they are may be we may extend the time, when th~ leaving their motherland and Why are they time comes to extend it. But I would like to hatching conspiracy against their own coun- requestthe Members not to repeat the points try? It is because a lot of attention were not which have.been made. Everybody is speak- being paid to study their problems. Enough Ing on education while speaking on the pol- Job opportl,lnities were not created for them. icy relating to the youth. Education is only They were not being properly utilised in the one part of it. Employment. character build- society by our leaders. The Govt. could not 531 Youth Bill by MAY 11,1990 Shri Hannan MoIIah 532

[Sh. Nakul Nayak] Thirdly Sir, the media plays a prominent role In making many changes in the society. make a systematic arrangement to provide It shQuld be utilised to preach morality among them engagement So they fell the vICtIm of the students. literacy should be spread foreign power Now we do not have any w"ay among the rural youths through media A krt to control the situation within a specifiC time. of money IS being spent on the Nehru Vuva We are not able to negotiate With these Kendras. But they have not played any sig- misguided youths who are creating terror In mficant role forthe deve!opment of the youths. the society Everyday the T.V. carnes the So they should be revamped aoP Govt. news of the killing of some Innocent people should see that the money spent on these In some parts of the country or the other SIr Yuva Kendras should not go waste. The we could not study their psychology. When Yuva Kendras should produce some results they could not get Job they followed th,s nght from the VIllage level to the District level. wrong path Adopting the principle of seme- The students I,vmg In the towns and citieS thing IS bdter than nothing They JOin hands are now only able to get coachIng facilitIes with foreign power Sir, the youths In differ- for different games and sports They are able ent parts of the country are frustrated The to partICIpate In the State and NatIOnal events present educatIOn system IS defectIve After But the rural youths are depnved of such coming out of schools and colleges they are faCIlitIes So coachIng centre should also be not getting Job They are not able to earn their set up In the rural areas. The talents avatl- dally bread They do not want to be the able With the rural youths must be Idantrfied burden on their parents Thus they are get- and they must be gIVen proper training. The ting frustrated So, before the situation goes youths should be provided WIth the facilitieS out of hand, the Govt must pay proper to lead the country In eVery sphere. attentIOn to resolve their problems In thiS contact I would like to give a few suggestions Sir, take the case of Srr Lanka. Recently and request the Government to examIne a BIll has been rntroduced In the.r Parliament these suggestions As I stated earlier the seeking to provide 30% of reservatIOn to the present educatIon system IS detective The youths In the matter of employment and also British system of education IS stili being In theIr Parhament So, 30% of the youths .n Imparted to the students It IS only creating that country WIll get an opportunity to repre- unemployment, In the country So, firstly we sent their nation They WIll lead the country. have to give fresh look on the present sys- In IndIa, we are providIng reservatIOn facll.- tem of education The courses of studies ties to the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled which are being Introduced In the Schools T rrbes, we are gOIng to proVIde 30% reserva- and Colleges should be changed Immedi- tion to the women Why not we ;Jrovlde 40 to ately Vocational Courses of studtes should 50% 'reservatIOn to the youths In our country be Introduced In the educational institutions So, I would like to request to the Govt_ to After passing the school and college educa- Implement lhese few suggestions and with tion the students Will be able to get some these words I thank you very much and engagement orthe other rfthey are Imparted conclude my speech such type of education PROF RASA SINGH RAWAT (AJmer): Secondly, the youths are always Imma- Han Mr Deputy-Speaker SIr, I whole-heart- ture when they are students They follow edly support the Youth BIll presented by the different eVil practices at that stage So, hon Member The IntentIOns wrth whICh thIS Government should set upa machinery which BIll has been brought forward can prove, to Will monitor their activities carefully. what the be of Immense value to youth In th,s country students are actually dOing, whether they However, the age-groupof 15-45 years would are being exploited by the undeSired ele- be an Injustice to the younger generatIOn. ments Altt,ough it IS true that 533 YoUlh Bi' by VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan AfoIah 534

"Zindagi zindadili ka naam hail ActuaIy youth is the spring of life.• is said Murdadil kya khak pya karte hain- thai but still it would be better if the upper age lim~ [English] is reduced marginally. Today's young generation can be classified into three catego- Man is the best creation of God. ries. In the first category is the discontented and angry youth. Anti-national elements urge [Tr.uJSIaIion) this type of youth to vent their anger and frustration through terrorism which the latter The Hindi poet Sumilranandan Pant says- does without hesitation. In the serond category is the youth which is deeply disilu- "'Sunder hai mag, sunder suman, sioned and dejected in life. Young-sters in Manav tum sabse sundertam- this category take to drugs and are morr-ing towards seH-destrudlOn. In the third cate- A person has a lot of desires during his youth gory is the youth whICh has developed a bad and the sky is the limit for his ambitions. He taste for fashion and frolic. Their sale objec- wants to even challenge the mountains. 1\ tive is to must be ensured that the youth does not remain idle. [English] [English] Eat. drink and be merry. Empty mind is devils's workshop. [ Translation] [ Translation) That IS why an Urdu poet, has said that- They must be given something to do. ~Nikle hain kahin Jaene ke liye, Subhash Chandra Bose, who led the youth, parhunchenge kahan yeh malcom said- nahin. In Raah me:n bhatakne vaalon ko, "kadam kadam baraye ja khushi ke manzil ki disha maJoom nahin.- geet gave ja. ye zindagi hai kaum ki tu kaum par Today our youth has become dlrectionless lutaye ja and aimless because the people whose Ideals they are supposed to imbibe have not put The Hindi poet Jaishankar Prasad said thai- forth thelr ideals before the youth in a proper manner. The youth finds that the very people 1-limadi tung shrang se prabudh shudh whom they consider their ideals do not prac- bharti. tise what they preach. Today's younger Swayam prabha sarnujjvala swantan- generatIOn is troubled by -such contradic- trata pukarti, tIOns. Amritya veer putr ho Dridh pratigya soch 10, 'Mahajanon yen. gatah sa ev pantha'- Prashast punya path Mi, Barhe chalo, barhe chalo. the path followed by leaders becomes an Ideal for the younger generation. The youth The need of the hour is to encourage youth participate in ranies and processions at the to think creatively, build their character and behest of people whom they consider their imbide high moral values in them. The young- leaders. But when these very people expbit sters of today are the citizens of tomorrow. the youth and leave them in lurch it leads to the future leaders and administrations 01 this frustratIOn and disappointment in them. country. The youth of this country can be 535 Youth BiI by MAY 11.1990 Shri Hannan MoIah 536

(prof. Rasa Singh Rawat) JawahartaI Nehru. Subhash Chandra Bose and Dr. Rajendra Prasad gave this country successful in every field only if we instil a its independence. But I am pained to say that sense d value in them and mould them inthe these days such a spirit of saa if.ce does oot framework of patriotism. The greatest asset exist anymore among people of this country. for acountJy is not the amount of money in its I befieve thai: this is due to the non-fulilment coffers but its youth. Todayther'e is a need to of our goal at equal opportunities in every provide employment to the country·s youth. field for all people. Education should be value-based and employment oriented. Moral education should The children of poor people living in also be emphasized. The youth should be viIages do not get an CIIppOrtunity to study. given every opportunity for the alkound This is the reason why our education policy development of personally. The aim a edu- has relegated youth to the background. 80% cation is- of the Scheduied Caste and Scheduled Trbe children living in villages do not get an oppor- [English) tunity to study. Right from the age of eight these children work on farms or in homes as Education is an all-round. well-balanced and servants. Hthese children are educated then Integrated development of the personality of we wiH have 80% more promising young the child persons in the country. But all the talent in this country is not getting an opportunity for [ Translation) expression since education remains theprivi- lege of a few people. H education does not fuHil1 this aim then reading of text ~s gives the feeling thal- Our educational and other programmes are also not conducive to the devek:lpment of Hum un ku! kitabon ko kabile zabti the country's yoong generation. The signifi- samazhte haln cance of retigion is taught in our Schools but Jinko parh kar ke bete baap ko khabti students are not taught anything about na- samazhte hain tionalism or how to play a constructive role in society. I know that in my district the RS.S. T oday's young generation must be provided and certain people belonging to minority WIth good books in order to detract them communities are running schools. The edu- from obscene literature. cation imparted in these schools is based on religion and communalism. Nothing is taught SHRI RAM KRISHAN YADAV about nationalism. While going through this (Azamgarh): Hon. Deputy-Speaker Sir. youth B~I I have noted that it contains very con- IS the greatest asset of a country. Children structive ideas. The Bilrs Qbiedives are also are the future of a country. Thai is why it has very good. In a large country like ours, noth- been said that- ing is being done towards welfare of youth. We are rarely able to win any gold medals in [English] sporting events. Even smaller nations win 20-25 medals in sports events. This is be- child is the father of the man. cause we are not tapping the potential of our youth. If education is made compulSory then [ Transiation] we can produce many successful scientists and sportsmen. All the children in the coun- But it is regrettable that our country·s youth try should be provided equal opportunities in has become directlOnles5. Looking at the education. Children of poor people should history of the 20th Century we find that the be ~ hostel facilities when they go for intellect and sacrifice of great souls (i(e study. When children get an opportunity-to Mahatma Gandhi. Dr. B.A. Ambedkar stay together and study together they wit 537 Youth 8iI by VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan IIoIah 538 develop seI~ In ihis way Scheduled through one machinery caIed the admni- Castes and Scheduled Trbes and ather slralion or civi service. I think we wiI have to backward classes will shed their inferiorly review seriously; take stock 01 where we complex vis-a-vis the other sections 01 s0ci- have gone wrong. cutti1g across party c0n- ety. People of all religions should be treated siderations becal'Se now the time has mme equally. There should be equality in educa- when no single political party can realy tion and equality in living oonditions as-in tackle the stupendous task., facing this coun- sociaist countries. I feel that this Bilt wil try. The task of regeneration, reconstruction. contrilute in large measure towards deveI- rebuilding this nation, day by day, is bec0m- ~nt of youth in this muntry which in tum ing even more and more inst.m1ountable in will lead to the progress 01 the nation as a terms of the problems that are arising- whole. But the policy of the Government, be problems mainly because of the growing it the Congress Government or the Janata population of the unemployed and employ- Dal Government. is quite vague in this re- able youth. We know that more than sixty per spect. All these pOints must be given serious cent of our voters are falling within the age of consideratOn. 18 to 40. According to the definition given in this BiR, he has described youth as persons With these words I end my speech. between 16 and 40 years of age. Therefore, our main task must be to address all our [English) policies and programmes to the yculh. To- day, so much of our energy--I feel some- SHRI VASANT SATHE (Wardha): Sir, times very sad-is wasted in mWJal bicker- I am really happy to support this Bill brought ing, recrimination, just criticising each other. by our friend Shri Hannan MoRah. tthink this How much of our time do we realty spend in is in keeping with the spirit and the attitude of this House in thinking constructively on pro- the present leadership of the National Front ~ lMe the one which our friend has Government. I hope this comprehensive Bill brought in this Bil This is the real crux on that has been prepared. will be taken seri- which this entire Pariamert should be ously by the Government and they would adressing ilseIf. Rather than that, we know come WIth policies and programmes to fulfil how our time is wasted. That is why, I think, these ideals and expectations. Sir, it is also this is the most important Bill. Any time given In keeping with the vowed policy and dec1a- for discussing this mailer would be worth. ration of the NatIOnal Front Government to Unfortunately, see the attendance on any provide rghttowork asa FundamentalR~ht side tor such a thing. Private Member's Bill is in the Constitution. We support this right taken for granted that ultimately what is whale-heatedly, because I tee! that it the going to happen will be: perhaps the Govern- youth of Indta can be prov,dt:d ooportumtles ment wili persuade the Member to withdraw for creatIVe wo~ that Wilt revolutionize our givng promises that we will do something whole nation. When we say that our country about jt And that will be the end of the should be seH-sufficient, seH -reliant in the matter. But please consider if you can make world context, what does it mean in practical your youth productive, productive in terms of terms? It means that at least its work-worthy producing gods. If it is educatIOn in the lalger citIZens should be self-sufficient, self-reliant, sense, I believe, education must not be creative and producttve. In the ultimate treated only in terms of school education or analysis, the enhre object of planning of any college education. The better thing would be Government. partICularly of a nation like to give him that education which will make ours, must be t9 create such conditions that him productive in terms of producing goods would enable every cftizen to have opportu- because ultimately youth needs goods. nities to achieve excellence in the field of hiS Goods, that is, consumer goods, are neces- or her choICe. That IS the ultimate objective. sary for his life to improve the quafrty of his It IS not expected of a Government to inter- life-Consumer goods right in his ~abitat, fere in every field or do something by rtseH right in the rural area itself. We should give 539 Youth BIN by MAY 11,1990 Shri Hannan UoIah 540

[Sh Vasant Sathe] terms of water-tight oompartments_ When you think holistically or in 1DIaIity, thIS Bi1 win hilTl education keepmg With the force everyone in this House, irrespedive of tradrtlOn-agro-lOdustnes-educatlOn that wiD sides, to think.. I sincerely WISh that this Bill go well WIth the agncuhural tradItIOns and should be passed. Chimanbhaijl, I am sure practtces We can do some such thing. Have that at least you can show courage to accept you evolved a programme? I will tel you that this BID. We wiD help you to pass It. I assure the youth of thIS country has a talent, talent from our side that we wiH support Ifl passing In hIS hands. talent In hIS fingers. We know this BiN. let this Bill be passed by this House. how sklMul our girls are I saw that In a watch let the Government sit up and think Ott how factory In Sikklm h IS one of the best produc- we are going to create the Infrastructure and Ing umts The girls there had no other educa- howwe are going to draw aparaBei ecomrny tIOn but the trachtlOnal skill--deh fingers They for production purposes All these will have are prodUCing the best watches Our people to be done. ThIS BiD IS a comprehensive Bill. have talent You can g've even modem skills It IS not only about school or oollege educa- like computers ElectronIC Industrtes can go bon. h IS about tralnmg JObs, unemployment to the rural areas You Will hnd that our rehef, health. sports facilitieS and opportuni- people are skilful The youth are sklltu~ We ties of youth. In short. the entire life of youth, must create those condrtlOns That WIll bnng the culture and charactel-budchng hes In pressure t1 you pass thiS Btli. I know, people their feeling of belonging When one feels Will say, wWhere are the resources? How can that illS hIS life. hiS country and he IS going we gIVe guaranteed employment? How can to build hIS life, that seH-rellance and confi- we gIVe nght to work • ThIS IS how we have dence builds up hIS character. That IS the been hearing about thiS Issue all these years real character Sometimes: feel give thIS nghL Then, you WIll be forced Then thiS bureaucracy will be MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER. And also his forced. then all these StatuS-qUOlSt peopte In VISIOn of the future the Government Will be forced, people In the Planning CommissIOn will be forced to sit up. SHRI VASANT SATHE The youth Mr Chlmanbhal and myself have been dIS- should keep rn View the vISIOn of the modem CUSSing these Ideas In workshops and world, a world of exponentIal growth In fields seminars But nothing much came about II like saence. a world where they are going because the Government IS baSICally status and setting up centres not only In the moon quolst They do not want change Even to- but beyond moon alSo. Just gIVe opportUni- day the administratIOn does not want change ties to the youth who are lIVIng In such a unless there IS a total poIlIlCai Will of all SideS world "your create those condrhons for the That IS why I said, no Single party can solve youth. then they will bnng about a revolubon thiS problem Bring pressure on th,s sys "'m; not only to change hIS hfe but to change the change thJ$'system Make thiS ~ystl- '1 re- Irfe of the entire country. Who else can do it sult-onented Unless that IS done, thl< ,.:>rob- than ourselves? Those d us who are old lem of providing work to the youth win not be enough, Win be fossilISed and WlH pass on. tackled This problem has to be addressed In That IS the law of nature. tt IS the younger a holistIC manner There IS no water-llght generahon which will come and take over. compartment You cannot Just by pasSing a They are to meet the 21 st century. let them Bill tomorrow say that the youth will be pro- build a new India. But our jOb towards our vided jObs From where are you gomg II) generation should be to at least, leave those provide the JObs? Where are the resources? conditions for the youth to come up. I think. What raw matenals Will you gIVe? Where IS we have failed in this respect I must accept, the baSIC Infrastructure? Where IS power? In an introspectIVe mood, honestly that our Where IS energy? Where IS steel? Where are generation has tailed. When hIStory will be the materials reqUired? All these POints will wntten, then the youth ~ this country will say have to be thought of You cannot think In that this generation has failed to create those 541 Youth BiD by VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan Mollah 542

conditions. We may, for the sake of argu- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: By this, the ment, say that we have done this and that. time allotted for this discussion has come to But the net result is that we have done this an end. For how long should we extend the andthat. But the net result is that we have not time? left those conditions in which the youth of this country can really become creative and SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- achieve excellence in the fields of their choice lem): Sir, may I request that time for this in such a highly competitive world. No one is discussion may be extended by one hour. going to be charitable. No one has mercy for anybody In this world. When we cannot MH. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is all right. c.ompete, when we cannot come on equal So, we extend the time for this discussion by power with other developed countries of the one hour. world, nobody is going to have sympathy or pity for you. Therefore, I beg of the entire Now, Shri Brij Bhushan Tewari may House, through you, to conSider and con- speak. centrate on thiS creattve aspect on how to create those conditIOns whereby the youth [ Translation] of this country will come up of their own and will build a new India, notonly for itself but to SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN TIWARI (00- show light to the entire world. Let us not mariaganj): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at the waste our energies In interneCine matters outset I would like to thank the mover of this and quarrels. Fortunately, we have a rich Bill for having given us an opportunity to heritage which Vivekananda had taught and discuss the problems faced by the youth and which Aurobindo had spoken. But there is no also for having laid stress on the necessity to use of talking of that rich heritage when formulate a comprehensive youth policy, today, we are hving In a life of poverty and through the medium of this Bill. First of alii penury In this country. Only that country and would like to state that the age of youths only those people are heard who are able to should be in between 15 and 35 instead of 15 stand on their own feet, who are self-rehent and 45 as mentioned in the Bill. Secondly we and who can achieve something of their are concerned as to how we should utilise choice. We must create that kind of country, the contribution of the youth. At the time of that kind of conditions for the youths of thiS National movement our national leaders country. made the best use of this energy to attain Independence from bondage. The youths Therefore, Sir, I entirely support the played a vital role in all the major revolutions letter and spirit of this Bill brought by our and agitations that took place in the country friend Shri Hannan Mollah and I request the and became the carriers of new c"'~1r.e. Government to accept it. Don'i run away by After attaining Independence we h tt .at saying that you are trying to implement it. youths are our new inspiration but irontcally That js what we used to do and if you als'O do we have not been able to use their energies the same thing then what new are you going in a proper manner. There is need to incul- to do? For the last 40 years we have re- cate Political conciousness democratic tra- mained "'ore or less where we were. The ditions and dutijulnion in our youth which gap between rich and poor has increased. unfortunately they lack. The people occupy- So, if you want to show some new path, new ing the Supreme positions in Government .direction of restructuring the entire system, merely impart lessoned of discipline to the you showthat.courage and I assure ~/OU that youth. As such today our society is confront- we will support you in such a constructive ing more danger to propriety of conduct than and dynamic programme. to lack of discipline. The reason behind this is that in our society the powerful people do Thank you very much for giving me this not frame any rule for themselves, they vio- opportunity to speak on this Bill. late every rule .and qn the contrary they 543 Youth Bill by MAY 11,1990 Shri Hannan AfoIIah 544

[Sh. Brij Shushan Tiwari] policy, it cannot be dealt separately. Forthis, it is necessary to bring in a radical change in expect the younger generations and the our present system because it we constitute weak to strictly abide by all rules. Thus, the a team of literates and Bhoomi Sena we first thing I would like to say pertaining to this should have a clear idea of their objectives_ Bill is that thete should be an awakening of A great deal of irregularity is in existence in political conciousness among the youth and our society and under the present circum- I support compulsory education in this cori- stances in our country a person who labours text. I admit that the youth should have the hards finds it difficult to make both ends meet right to education. Simultaneously, provi- whereas on the contrary the people wt~ sions should be made to make available earn their livelihood through deceitful meaRs nutritious told for the the youths at cheaper enjoy life to the utmost. We have tc once rates. The youths and the students should again establish the value and dignity of hard have actively participate In the management work and re-establish an egalitarian society_ of schools and universities. Institutions im- Today the people think that the resources of parting High School, Intermediate, B.A. and the country cannot increase. and the gross M.A. degrees should necessarily ~ave stu- national product of the country cannot in- dents unions. We cannot create democratic crease so why not grab whatever is ava~ tradition or the feeling of responsibility in the able. h is very obvious that only the mighty minds of our students and youths unless we and the cratty will succeed in grobbing the provide them adequate opportunities to major share for themselves. Our ecoomy wiH participate in political activities. Today the no longer remain-egalitarian and the ten- need of the hour is to fight against ilitracy in dency of selfishness and to gralb more and the country and thiS cannot be carried out more of one's own self or one's family win with the efforts of Government and non- continue unabated. If our society goes in this Government organisations only because I direction we will not be able to infuse new have seen that on one hand the sole motive spirit in our youth. As has been discussed in of all non-Government orga"'llsatlons only to this al'Qust House a short while ago by Shri extract the Government funds. The Govern- Sathe we cannot make use of fUndionai ment sources are limited and thus in orderto aspects and creatingly even it we are willing awaken the youth It IS very essential to do so, if such a kind of irregularity prevails in create a team compriSing of educated people our society wherein the people who forcibly who can fight against illiteracy. In order to grab the share of other enjoy an upper hand. Implement thiS there should be Wide spread Thus we will have to frame a National policy. agitations In which the Y9uths should resolve We shall have to think of transforming the to educate everyone living In this country present set up and organize an agitation in Within a stipulated time penod and the Gov- the entire country because it we do not make ernment should make its best possible ef- use of the youth force in encountering the forts In this direction. Apart from this Bhoorni forces surrounding us the situation will tum Sena can also be constituted. The Uttar explosive. It will produce alarming results. Pradesh Chief Minister Shn Mulayam Singh Today, the situation is such that one person Yadav has announced the formatIOn of is not able to understand the other. In this Bhoarni Sena. Similarly, It we start the for- system we shall not be able to recognize our mation of Bhaarni Sena at national level we language. our tradition and further we shall can use this to make fertile our uncultivated fail in awakening the youth towards the rich barren lands, to extend our sources of edu- tradition of this country and as such this cation and give a new direction to our entire situation will impair our system and destroy youth force. This can also be used for the our existence and impair our unity. There- purpose of seizing Benarni lands. With the fore we should create the right type of tradi- formation of Bhoomi Sena the country will tions among our youths. We have to make get an opportunity to free itself from seces- use of their energy and vigour in the right sionist forces. Today, when we talk of youth direction. Thus, in my opinion this Bill is very 545 Youth BiB by VAISAI(HA21. 1912 (SAKA) Shti Hannan IIoIah 546

right and timely but there is need to bring on uniform education policy then perhaps some improvements and amendments in it one section of the society would not have I fully agree with the amendments moved by gone much ahead. B.J.P. mnsiders the Shri YlMaj particularly in respect of circu1a- power of youth to be most powerful and tion among the people so that people of aI important! we channaisetheyoulh powa', castes and creeds could get an opportUnity ulilze it in a proper manner and taka iIs help to express their views. Our National Front in organizing a literacy carnpa91 then it can Government has declared to bring a new prove to be of a great help to the nation. youth policy at an earty date. After having ,':lken the views of all parties regarding this Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir. many social I dill which is beiOg discussed whatever con- evils such as unlouchabilily, dowry, ~ crete suggestions are put forth and whaleYer stilion, casteisrn etc.. are prevaiing in ow is congenial to the prevailing time we need country. The youth force can play a vital role such a youth policy. With these words, I in eradicating !hess social evils from ow support the basic sentiments expressed in society. The creative and positive ooopera- the aforesaid Bill and resume my seal tion of these youth will be of immense inpor- tance for the nation because the youth p0s- SHRI PREM KUMAR OHUMAL sesses inherent power of bringing a change. (Hamirpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, althe History bears testimony that every change in outset I would like to recite a couplel-- the world has been brought abOIA by the youth power. We have1Dfamiarisetheyouth 'Hukme Hakim Ka Farmaye Raavani of our country with our heritage. RukJaye Kaum Kaheti Hai Hawa Band Ho Pani Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just nor. dur- Ruk Jaye ing a discussion which was held here, a Oil Ki Beheti Hui Ganga Ki Ravani Ruk iriend had mentioned and I feel that the Jaye phobia of RS.S. has struck those friends of Lekin Yeh Mumkin Nehim I(j Joshe ours. Jawani Ruk Jaye- [£ngish) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to congratulate my friend Shri Haman UoIah MR DEPUTY -SPEAKER: You please for having introduced such a Bill which has come to the point. made hon. Shri Sathe so youthful that he has assumed to give his party's support wihout PROF. PRE .. KUMAR DHUMAl..: I am consulting the other leaders of his party.• is coming to the point truely the result of that youthfulness which has made him act in thi~ manner. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: • is not necessary to mention controversial poinIs.

Mr, Deputy Speaker. Sir the biggest capital; of a nation is its human resources [ Translation] because rt IS medium which can make use of all others means and the power of youth is the most Important means in the human SHRI PREM KUMAR DHUMAl: Mr. resource. It at all we have committed a Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am coming to that mistake. it was that we did not pay adequate point. \'01i1e speaking that gentleman lev- attentIOn towards channelising the youth elled a charge on R.S.S. being anti-naIionaL force In the held of education and this has I want to clari'f this before you thai RS.S been accepted by Shri Satheji. In India, had cannot be changed of treason. No other we not imparted education on the basis of organization in India possesses the same caste and instead had given education based national character as that of R.S.S. 547 Youth BiI by MAY 11.1990 Shti Hannan IAoIah S48

(Engish) country being inspired by that lofty ideal of bringing about a change of SOCiety based on MR. DEPlJT¥-SPEAKER: There are justice and equity. many important issues Ike educalion, employment etc. relating to this. You can. give Today. certainly. at an age which is your suggestions either how you would like elder, we are very much frustrated that even to incorporate them in the Bill or how you at this age we do not find realization of the would like the Government to formulate a ideals for which we once tought and even policy with regard to them. Would you like landed ourselves in the prison houses under that these rights should be included in the the British regime. Anywi!Jl'f. I do not like tt, Chapter on Fundamental Rights? We would take muCh of your time. like you to speak on those points. Of the major muffi-vacated aspects of [Ttanslation] the youth problems have been brought into this BiD. That is the charm of it. That is the PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAl.: The beauty of it. It is not piece. It is not a particular Education Policy should be improved. San- aspect of the youth life on which emphasis skrit has been totally ignored in the New has been laid, because youth life cannot be Education Policy: We say that we should reconstructed in a piecemeal way. Youthlife familiarise our youth with our culture and can be reconstructed on the basis of a heritage. But if we do not promote Sanskrit comprehensive socio-economic programme, language how will they become familiar with and this Bill serves to attain that our heritage. I shall conclude after saying a few words because of paucity of time. I One aspect to which I want to draw your support this Bill. A comprehensive discus- atlention--and through you of the House- sion should take place on it. Whatever is, thai is about the rural youth. I was looking amendments are made in it should be given into the statistics regarding the youth popu- WIde publicity and there should be a national lation in urban areas and the rural areas. I debate on this subject so that the power of found to my great surprise that of the entire the youth could be channeli:-.ed properly. rural population, youth population is only 44 to 45 per cent. It we want to really build a new [English} rural India somebody may claim, then we cannot build it up without looking after the SHRI CHmABASU (Barasat): I rise to interests of the rural youth of our country. support the Bill moved by Shri Hannan MoI- These rural youths, they may be agricultural lah with all the emphasis at my command. workers, they may be artisans, they may This is for the first time that such a compre- belong to the weaker sections of the commu- henSIVe Bill encompassing the various as- nity, they may be SC or ST, they may be pects of the youth life of our country has been other weaker sections of the community, placed here for the consideration in the high- unless we can bring about a social and est nattonal forum democratically elected by economic change. so that they can also our countrymen. enjoy the fruits of the progress and devel- opement of the country, I think we are invit- Sir, while I support it, I do it from a sense ing social tensions. thai is exactly what is of nostalgia also. Sir, the thrust for the free- happening today. dom c:I our country, impatience for a quicker pace of soCial transformation and an ideal- 17.00 hrs.. ism for bringing into being a society based on equity and justice brought many of us at the Look. at the countryside of Bihar; look aI the forefront of the freedom movement of our countryside of Andhra Pradesh: look at country. I know many of you who are here Kashmir and look aI Punjab. These youths, have joined the treedom movement ot the who are the vital torce of our country, have 549 Youth BiN by VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan MoIIah 550 been misguided and misled because they SHRI P.R KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- have no ideaJism before them. They have lem): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I not only been completely frustrated. h is not the tine wish to weIcome1he Bill thal has been rncMMt to accuse anybody, this side or thai side. by Shri Hannan MoUah from UllbHia but Actually we could not redeem the pledges. also congratulate him for having taken this Therefore, I would earnestly urge upon the step to put toge1her collectively many fooda- Government, particularly my friend Stvi mental issues in this Bill and also addressed Mehta to consider it. As a matter r:I fact, this many fundamental problems. is within the jurisdiction of the Policy Stat~ ment of the National Front Govemmert. ~ This Bil is not a Bil dealing with just one the first time. under the National Front Gov- or two issues. According to me, it deals with ernment, on the 31 st January last, the Prime "the very future of this nation. Many Members Minister met the representatives of aD youth have mentioned-l do not think that it is organisations ~tt. rqht. and centre. There ine\evant and it is worth mentioning it was a background paper which detailed in again-that in many a movement whether it is great length the youth problems. I had gOne movement run by naxaities. whether .it is a through the background paper. r had lis- movement of secessionism, whether it is a tened to the leaders of the youth organisa- movement which has communal angles to iI. tions who had attended the meeting. Many whether it is a movement indulging in arson. members were frustrated here because there looting and violence. invariably the force that was no Action Programme evolved in thai is utilised by aft these conspirators and crea- Conference of the Youth Representatives. It tors of these dubious movments, which IS a good beginning. At least we have got destroy the fabric of the nation, is the youth some confidence among the youth leaders force. Whether one looks at Kashmir or of our country. They had the right to be Punjab or Assam or even Tamil Nadu today. consulted. The consultation was there. But it is ultimately the youth power that is being there was no effective outcome. used by the vested interests to destroy the fabric of this nation. Why is it that this power By accepting this Bill. I think. you can is available to them? I think, this is a question fulfil the pledge that you made in the Confer- which we must address to ourselves. This ence of the Youth leaders of various organi- power is essentially available to them be- sations on the 31 sl January last In order to cause we are unable to chamelise, attract fulfil the electoral promises made by you onty ~nd utilise the youth effectively in nation four or five months before and in keeping building activities. I was very happv to see in with the views expressed by you in the para 34 of the President's Address to Parlia- Conference of the Youth leaders only three ment on 12th March this year that the Gov- or four months before. I would appeal to you ernment is sensitive to the concerns and to accept this Bill. As Mr. Sathe has said. aspirations of our youth. I can assure the other obstructions could be eliminated by Government and inform the Membets 01 this the tremendous force of the youth masses House that these terms are not new, now the together with other section of the people and words new and nor this paragraph new. We by mobilising the people of our country. Thai nave seen similarterms. even identical terms, will be a historic achievement of the National being used in many a President's Address Front. I am happy that the Members sitting when it refers to the youth. These platiludes, on my right have also pledged their support thasa assurances, these words r:I praise of for the acceptance of this Bill. the youth have been used over and over again. Not only that. we have also seen not PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): We one but many a youth conference of the are always right youth organisations to discuss what is it that is to be done to channelise the youth power. SHRI CHITTA BASU: But you did·not I am constrained to say that every one of do it earlier. these conferences came out with very pow- 551 Youth Bill by MAY 11. 1990 Shti Hannan MoIah 552

_ [Sh. P.R. Kumaramangalam1 infested. if necessary, by communal reac- lions? It was unimaginable to think about 20 erful resotutions. The resolves are very strong or 30 years ago that the youths would be . but never did it become a slaMe nor did it tooIs·of caste and creed fights. youth bec0m- ever really come ante action to the extent that ing tools of mmmunaJ fights, youth raising the youth power was really channeiise~j_ Question that let us do away with the reser- Yes. sporadically we have seen a festival or vation: why should 'X' or 'Y' though back- two of the youth. we have seen our Indian ward should have more and all that. AI this is youth go an participate in international fest~ ~ out of the fad that there is injustice in vals, we have seen some sports festivals, society, that there are inequities which they but systematicaRy, legally, under law. mak- are not able to tolerate. It is a situation where ing it a bounden duty. making it compulsory a youth knows that the degree that he gets in on the Government to channelise youth educational instrtution is sometimes not even power, I am sorry to say that rt did net come. worth cost ortht! vatu.:! of the paper on which That is one of the reasons why I wis" to join it IS primed. Because it he has the degree, he both Mr. Vasant Sathe and Mr. Chitta Basu IS told when he goes 10 get a job, oh. ),OU 10 ptead wrth the Government and specially have a B.A. or M.A. Degree. what is the use: our MinISter, Mr. Chimanbhai Mehta, through you must have so and so to put in a word for you, Sir, not to make the request to the ycu and only then you would be considered. Member to withdraw the Bill beCause I am Univrtunately, merit has become irrelevant. reasoncmty certain that Mr. Hannan Mollah Not oniy do we find that merit has become belonging to the CPM would be constrained Irrelevant, what has become relevant is to withdraw the BiD. t would plead with him psychopancy. napotism and corruptIOn. also that even If the Minister makes a re- Essentially it is the system tnat is driving the quest to him to withdraw the Bift, please youth away. They are no longer approving disappear it necessary, at that moment.but what we are discussing in this House. I can do not withdraw the Bill. let the Bill lie at least tell you this quite reasonably. When I meet on the Table of the House till the Govern- my young nephews, 'have noticed that there ment brings a Bill to put forward these points is cynicism when they discuss about politi- and make this a law which makes it a bounden cians. politics and about the system, whether duty of every Government that comes. This it is the judiciary, whether it is the legislature, is the need of the hour. I think. it is relevant whether it is the executive or whether it is the for all of us in this House to realise that the officialdom, they hold in contempt each one youth are straying from the path of develop- of us essentially because they think that in ment essentially because they are losing the last four decades, we have not been ab&e faith in the system. to deliver what they wanted and meet their aspirations. t would request that the Govern- Today It is an admitted fact and even the ment must accept this Bill. Even if they Statement of Objects and Reasoras of the Bil! canrlC}t accept this Bill. let them make an says that every fifth person who is unem- assurance on the floor of this House that ployed is an Indian and every second person within a specific time period they would bring who is illiterate also happens to be an Indian. forward a Bill which would become a statute, Why is i1 that we are not handling these whICh will guarantee the youth his rtghts. issues? Why IS it that we are trying to ad- And I wish let that assurance be kept. Thank dress these ISSueS as Insurmountable? Why you. do we not have the courage to allow this to become a fundamental right to the youth of SHRI BAlGOPAl MISHRA (Bolangir): this nation? let them have a chance of Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I support this Bill survival. Give them the nght of employment. brought torword by Shri Hannan Mollah and right of educatIOn. gIVe them the culture that I congratulate him for bringing before this some of us had the chance to be taught. Why House such a comprehensive Bill. Sir, lot of IS it that we are alloWing our youth to get things have been told. I do not want to repeat 553 Youth BiN by VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan MoIIah 554 them. But. if you take an impartial view. I very less. So, wi. take this opportunity to think that the House will agree with me that request this Government that they should the youth power is just like the atomic power. formulate a process in which aJI the youth of The atomic power, if it is utilised properly, the country, after attaining the age of eight- serves the mankind and when it is misutil- een years, should serve their country for ised, it destroys the mankind. I am grateful to three years. in which military training should Shri Vasant Sathe that he has admitted that be there, literacy should be there and social his generation is responsible for the present service should be there. Only after that. they day's situation. Sir, so far as education is should be allowed to enter into the general concerned, I am sorry to say that in India we life. We are spending a lot of morleY. in the do not have any educational institutions name of informaleciucation, adutteduCaoon. starting from the primary level upto the uni- etc.etc. • we channelise that !1'1OfleY, then I versity level. We have got only institutions thiri<. the things will be bener. where people are taught how to read and write and produce a hunch of literate people. Another thing is that the present Indian tf you take the norm for a literate person to culrure and Indian society has changed from know the English. then Shri Kamraj Nadar what it was a couple of decades back Ear- will not be called "''"' educated man. But. I do Iier, a man was respected for his commit- not tj~lnk any of us w~1 agree here to call Shri ments, for his oonvictions and for his person- Kamraj Nadar uneducated. He did not have afity. But today, a man is respected bJ what any degree from any Board or University. He he wears. what he rides on and what he eats. had his education In T ami! vernacular upto So, that is the difference. Just '*e in any Class Vth. But, he was an educated man. other field, the end has beoome important. Similarly, today In the last fort)' years, we not the means. Similarly, right from the child- have 1a~:ed to educate the youth of thIS hood. kid starts thinking that he wiD make country. That IS one aspect of it Similarly, money. He is not bothered about the means. our values are detenorating fast. He says he will mint money, he dINe in an ar-conditioned house; he will ride an air- 17.'4 hrs. conditioned car. The sense of dignity of labour is no more there. After this 10+2 fSHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN in theory. anybody who completes 10+2 wiD be the Chai~ around eighteen years. If that youth mixes up with the rest of the youth of the viRage, I The respect Satheji's genera~lOn had for think there wi. be lot of interaction and inter- probably we do not have for our sem()rs. And change of ideas and thoughts and there wil the generatIOn next to us does not have that be a lot of change in the society. much respect for us as we have for our seniors. ThIs is another thmg tor which to- We have got these Nehru Yuvak Ken- day's youth is becoming more wise. The time dras and a lot of money has been spent on IS limited, so I am no1 going to repeat the them. But what actuatly have these Nehru poln!s, nor I am going to elaborate the points. Yuvak Kendras delivered in the last, I think, eighteen years. except that some people of lots a of things are belOg told in the name of the elite class have got some opportunities? youth welfare. There IS a Minister, there is a The rural youth have got very little, if I am Manistry, there is a Department and a lot of oorrect. money has been spent in the last forty years on ths. But what is the concrete results of As Mr. KurnaramangaJam said, any these Investments? NCe and NSS are con- movement you take, youth are involved in hned to colleges where youth is supposed to that. Ido not agree with all those who say that be processed. But what IS the percentage of only Mahatma Gandhi is responsble for the Indian youth who enter the college? Theer freedom of this country.• you take the his- number is very few and their percentage is tory of the freedom movement of this coun- 555 Youth 81. by MAY 11, 1990 Shn Hannan MoIah 556

[Sh. BaIgopaI MlShra] then the country wi get value '" terms of money. Rs. 2OOcrores per day. lit is contrb- try, Bhagat Singh, Khudl Ram, Chandra utad for 10 days. it WIll be worth d As. 2000 Shekhar Azad also had their own share And aorss. Then, "are will be no need of deficit at that tme they were the youth of thIS budget and no i188d of hke In the pnce of country. So, In the freedom movement also, dl8S8l and petrol. There should be some the youth forces have played their own role. proper chamelisallOn of the energy of the youth That IS lacking In this country That IS lastly, I Will request the Government, the cruel fate of the IndICUl youth whICh are through YOU. to declare 23rd March as the faang National Youth Day because on thIS day Bhagal Singh and hiS companions had at- Sir, we an utilise these unemployed tamed martyrdom, fJghbng farrhe freedom of youth for the benefif of this counfry Jcan give thiS cour.try Thank you, Sir an example from Kerala Some of the youth organisations In Kerala promISed to work for SHRI AVUAYARAGHAVAN(Paighat) some days for developmental actMtleS In Mr Chairman, Sir, at the outset, I would iike the State And through those actMtles they to welcome thIS Bin piloted by my hon fnend have now started to build bndges, canals, Shn Hannan Mollah roads, butldtngs, etc. hIS acontrbubon to the nabon Now, theques1lOn IS how to uhllSethe MinIOnS of youth In the country are un- S9MC9S of these unemployed youth for the employed Even today, the newspapers re- welf

Sir, whtie piloting the Bill, Mr Hannan I quote MoIIah pointed out about the situatIOn of IIltteracy In the country About 50% of the "The level of unemployment has shown Illtterates In the globe are residing In India a tendency to worsen and there has While addressing thiS House today, the hon been a decline of employment In tradi- member, Shfi Vasant Sathe has raISed a tional crafts and Industnes The organ- POint and asked what crime IS done by their ISed Industry has failed to prOVIde generatIOn to thiS natIOn? This IS the mapr additIOnal employment commensurate cnme done to thIS natIOn Can we ttllnk of a with Investment· person who cannot read poem? Can we think of a youth who cannot read a good ThIS IS the positIOn While IntrodUCIng thIS novel? That IS hiS right to read d good novel, Bill, the mover of the Bill pointed out the to know the traditIOns of thiS country through sItUatIOn about the unemployment In our books We have demea that to the majOr country According to the flQures available. chunk of people In thIS country Who IS the regIStered unemployed are around 3 5 responSible for thIS? This IS the responsibil- crores While calcUlating the rural and partly Ity of those people who were In there regime unemployed youth, It Will be around 10aores In the last four decades ThIS IS one part In What does rt show? Sir, the energy of the regard to the polICY of educatIOn In thIS mapr chunck of youth In thiS country IS not country. one of the hon Members on the being utilised for the welfare of the country opposite side has supported the Navodaya Year after year, we are IntrodUCing deflCrt Schools What was thetradftlOn of educatIOn budgets and thIS year also there IS hike In whICh we have created In the post-lnde- pnce of dtesel and petrol "we utlbse the pendence perIOd In our country? We have energy resources of our youth. If they con- promoted a bias towards English Medium trixrte one day serw::e to thIS country and If Schools Just after Introduang the New we fIX the rate of servICe charges at Rs 20, EducatIOn Policy. a aaze for Enghsh Ian- 557 Youth BiR by VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Shti Hannan MoIah 558 guage has developed in our country. One of values in our country. This is the greed land the famous poet in Kerala has written a of Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, poem. In two Jines, he pointed out thai after Bhagat Singh and others in the freedom introduction of thiS kind of educationaJ sys- movement There are great values of sacri- tern. the mothers in our country are thinking fice in our freedom movement. WhaI hap- of booking labour rooms prevalent in Eng- pens to all thpse values? From the public land in a hope that during the delivery of a workers at the tope to the rural villagers you child, the kid wnl cry in English. sUch kind of can see the erosion of these values. What policy is there in our country. Here is a five- have we done to prevent such an erosion? year old kid philosopher in our oountry. Here Now, a new wlture is developing. People is a new generation of kids with shoes on are around pop music. I am not opposing the their feet, with socks, with a blue trouser and classical aspect of any music. But a crusade white shirt. with parents on the right side and against the degenerating culture of the west. servants on the left side. Just like a bonded a culture of drugs and wines, in needed. But labour, the five-year old kid goes on. There what we have done is, we have started IS tuition not only for the fIVe-year old kid, but Utsavs iike the Apna Utsav and so on, but also for him mother. This is the new tradition nothing is done about the rural villages to we have introduced in our educational sys- preserve the real tradition and culture. That tem. Quite contrary to this. there is a major should be there and I have congratulated my chunk of people who are illiterate. There friend, for he has introduced that in this Bill. should be a change in the policy. A new educational system should be Introduced Regarding sports, what is the position? with a pattern whICh will give new orientation How many people we have in the Olympic to our educational system. Games who got medals for our country? We had hockey medals some 20 year ago be- Regarding eradICation of illiteracy, I cause there was a lot of importance given to would like to say that thIS is the International sports in those days. But what is the position Literacy year. We should chalk out a plan of today? how to utihse the uncmpk>yed youth in our country for eradication of illiteracy. There SHRIVASANTSATHE:Yourha"eP.T. should be proper channelisatlon of the en- Usha In your State who won the medal. ergy of the youth In our country. In our State. Kerala. we have started good pl'ogramme of SHRI ~ VUAYARAGHAVAN: About hundred per cent literacy In 1990. An All that. I will come later. I will just mention one Party DelegatIon gave a representation to thing. There was a football tournament in :he Government for supply of newsprint at Kerala Hon. Chairman also happens to be subsidised rate. Actually, in Kerala all the from T rivandrum and this was held there. So newspapers are ready to print all the bro- many teams came and our country was also chures free of cost. Our Central Govemment represented there. But we did not score even IS not taking any decisIOn regardIng the a single goal. One of my friends happened to representatIOn given by the representatIve be the member of that Footban Team. He of all political parties In Kerala representing said that those who were coming from out- In this House. I hope they will take the side were our guests. So. we should treat decision soon. But my suggestion is that them as hosts and to score our goal against there should be proper planning by the our guests is not the tradition of the game. CentraleGovernment to utilise this unem- Then I thought we will do something when ployed youtn for the eradication of illiteracy we go abroad to participate in international In our natIOn. That should be Included in the games. Shri Vasant Sathe has already Youth Act. mentioned about P. T. Usha She is from my University and I have great respect towards The other par: is regarding culture. We her. Then. one of my friend happened to be all agree that there is eroston of cultural a member of the OIympir. team. When I had 559 Youth BiI by MAY 11.1990 Shri Hannan MoIIah 560

[Sh. A. Vljayaraghavan] we must develop a system of education where each child. whether it is in the village a discussion with him asked-him. what is or in the city or in any nook and romer of our yow argument regarding your failure in inter- country. must be given institutional educa- national gamesT Then there reply was: tion wherein the child learns as to how to buid himsel or herself. how to assuciate '"Karmanyevadhi Karaste Ma Phaleshu with others.and how to carry on the duty to Kadachna- which he or she is born. They are destined to do certain things and not those things which We should have to run through these we an see in an around us. So, this country tracks and not think about medals. He just or any other country should develop a sys- quoted Geeta All our great traditions are tem of educabon where the children are being misquoted in our country. This is the taught moral and ethical values before they pathetic condition of our sports. There is not become youths. It should be Just like old a comprehenSIVe sp:>rts. The sports policy days ashram or residential schools where which we have Introduced In 1984 IS not they should be separated from the grown-up ~ for the development of thIS country. riff-r~. There is a saying In Telugu' Ultimately what IS going on? This policy IeadstofrustratlOn. This frustration leads our '"Mokkai Wonganadi Maanal Wongadu" youth to the terronst camps In PakIStan: thiS frustration leads them to take AK-47 nfles In Unless you mend the children while their hands and thiS frustratIOn leads them to they are-very young, you cannot mend them ruin this country. So. we should save our when they are grown-up These y(Juths are youth from this frustration We request this haVIng ideas only. Whatever you do, ihey new Government to take some mrtlatlVes to simply pretend to do something Actually. save thiS country The Government should they are set on one track. I e. ngld track. utilISe the majOrity of thiS natIOn for the Unless you give them education In a proper benefit of thiS countrY'. they should utilise manner. we cannot have better youths whICh thelT energy tor the future of this natIOn I we are dreaming of Now maJOnty of the hope thiS Bill Which IS Introduced by Shn youths have the Idea of 'easy money and Hannan Moliah Will gIVen enough ventilation JOlly life: That is the fashIOn of the day In thIS regard and I hope th,s Govern men! Will Wherever you go, you go to a Youth Camp. take necessary steps according to thiS Bill by evening. you see the vagaries of their Wrth these few words. I condude My speech nature ThIS IS the minds of the present youths. DR. VISHWANATHAM (Snkakulam): Mr Chairman. Sir. I thank you tor gIVing me I do admit that there I~ an un-endmg thiS opportunity While supporting thiS Bill, I force In the youth whICh must be utilised In a would like to pomt out to thiS august House proper way to build the nation that the youth passes through three stages. Dunng those three stages, they learn a lot SHRI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA and so many factors affect them. Acrordmg (Sarribalpur): Sir, at the outset, I welcome to psycho-analysIs. whatever the child learns this Youth Bill moved by hon. Member. Shn whoe paSSing through the third year to the Hanan MoIIah. On listening 10 the views from fifth year, IS earned out throughout the rest of aU sections of the House, J urge upon the Its life. Our children In India are also pasSing Government to pass thiS Bill. " that IS not through those stages. For example, we talk possible right now, I request the Govern- of drug abuse. But we practise it in front of ment to take concrete actIOn so that the our children. Naturally. the children will prac- provisions of the Bill which have been pro- hse the same without knOWing the bad ef- posed could be acted upon. fects of It. So m~ch so. If we want to have a youth as placed In letter and spirit of thIS Bill. Here, whiJe going through the Bill and 561 Youth Bill by VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan Mollah 562

on hearing what the han. Members have lice, felt so much ashamed that he would just said in this House, my opinion is that the go to the railway track to comm ~ suicide. But attitude of the State and the society towards now if he is caught, he is proud of assaulting the youth and the problems faced by the his teacher, No guilty conscience prevails youth are comprehensively reflected in the today. These malpractices are continuing Bill. But we have also to take into considera- and are being strengthened as we see cor- tion how the youths view the society. what is ruption prevailing in the political, economic their perception. Some of the hon. Members and ~ocial fields starting from top to bottom. have made just passmg references about This corruption is there is the political, and the value ,udgement of the youth, about the social arena and in the bUSiness field and societ)' and about the State What I want to everywhere. That is why. it is a total reflec- emphasise is, can we think of "youth~ only as tion upon the character of the youth. In my has been drafted in the Bill, as has been view, it is not possible to reform only the mentioned in the deflnttlon, I.e. 'youth' means youth. We have to reform the whole society all persons between fifteen and forty-five and we have to work upop such proposals years of age? which would change the situation ill the world and which would ~adica"y change the MR. CHAIRMAN: Just a minUte. Now society and which would create conditions time allotted for consideration of this Bill is where the youth can function properly, over. So many Members have given their names. So, we Will extend it for another two I welcome thiS Bill because it has thrown hours. suffiCient light on the programmes of the youth and as it has acted as a catalyst to SEVERAL HON MEMBERS: Yes, SIr. brtng about certain basic change in the conscience of the youth and in the health SHRI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA: Sir, programmes, and in the educational sys- I was saying that the problems of the youths, tem-amending the old education policy as we have been witnessing now, have been which are adopted three or four years ago-- genulMiy reflected In thiS Bill. That is a part and as It seeks to develop sports and to of the SOClo-economlC order that exists In organise youth festivals. Taking all these thiS count ry Unless we change radically, the things Into consideration, I hope Govern- socia-economic structure of the country, we ment will act upon it sincerely and try to cannot remove unemployment, we cannot implement some of the programmes which remove the frustration among the youths. have now been suggested so that a new era Unless we do thai. the condlttons of the will usher in for the youth In this country, youths IS 'lot gOing to be changed. For pro- Viding employment to ttle youths, are we SHRI P.C. THOMAS (Muvattupuzha): gOll19 to encourage cottage and village In- Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support this Bill whole- dustries In rural areas, are we going to stop heartedly and I think thatthis Bill will open the multi-natIOnals from coming into this coun- eyes of the Government firstly to formulate try? Are we gOing to stop the multi-nationals the youth ·policy which we did not have for a from coming to this country and arE:l we long tIme discouraging the monopohstic and capitalist houses? All these are linked WIth prOVIding Secondly, I am sure either this Bill would employment to the youth. This has to be be accepted or some kina of implementation viewed in a particular perspective and con- will come through some othtH legislation. crete action has to be taken. I would propose that tne gist of this Bill, Total frustration prevails among the the pointers which are shown in this Bill youth. I refer to a particular incident. 20 years should be whole heartedly accepted. ago, a student while coming out of the examination hall. after doing some malprac- The first thing which has been given 563 Youth Bill by MAY 11,1990 Shri Hannan Mollah 564

[Sh. P.C. Thomas] for these activities. But the POint is that these activitieaara not properly planned and given recognitIOn In this Bill IS a pointer to the fact to the youth. For example, I can Just quote that youth should be recognised. Recogni- one example which I have seen a few days tion to the actIVities of the young man and to ago. There was a football tournament In the youth as an organisation IS reqUired and which two teams had reached the fmal stage. I can also say that If a boy wants to do In fact, that tournament took place on 29th of something even In his chIldhood and If the last month. That was about the competitIOn parents and the SOCiety IS not gOIng to recog- for Federation Cup Football Tournament nrse It, the boy WIll Just loss hIs confidence to Two teams, one each from Goa and Kerala, act. The youth IS unable to do what he wants were fighting tooth and nail Doordarshan because he does not get due recognition. He was giving a lIVe telecast. But when Just 12 IS afraid and he IS not gettIng the confldt!nce minutes was to go, when the match had to dothe Itght thlng.To have real confidence reached the climax. when thousands and and to act fearlessly and honestly and In a mllhons of people were viewing thiS game all devoted manner to the cause for whICh one over thiS country, the programme was sud- stands. Will be the best output from a man denly changed In Its place. there was some kind of a feature serial which could In no way There are very good IndlCatlOnsforthese be useful (InterruptIOns) Ithlnk It was about aspects In thiS Bill Lakshadweep I am sure that even people from Lakshadweep would not have appreci- As has already been stated by many ated Jt There were very many persons who han Members. the capacity of the youth has were appreciating the football tournament to be channehsed properly Unless rt IS so Here. I Just point out one rnstance only. Such channehsed. tne huge power of the youth Will kind of cruel attitude from our Government. not be useful to him. to any indiVidual. to any administrators, elders as well as people In famIly. to any community. and In the larger power IS In vogue So, It IS necessary that the perspective. to the nation as a people who hold responSible positIOns should whole Therefore. thiS Bill points to so many give a very serious thought to thiS matter and facets which Will give methods of channell- they should given proper recognition to all satlOn for the youth power Then. I would the actiVities of youth including sports. cul- think that the grant of proper opportunity to tural activities etc the youth IS something which has been stressed In the Bill all through Grant of Regarding cultural actiVities, I have got proper opportunrty IS In respect of all fields one aspect to say For the ,.>ast several I am not gOing rntC' the details But It has been years, I know what has been taking place In given In all the fields like education. employ- Kerala In Kerala some kind of encouragement. health services. cultural actiVities and ment IS given In thiS respect to the students sports etc Ith,nk that these aspects aretobe at the schools and colleges Different types conSidered very seriously and thiS Bill has to of competitIOns are being held and the best be supported by all Members because the ofthe lot are being pICked up They are being necessity of giving opportunity to the youth In given encouragement I would hke to sug- all these respects IS stressed In thIS Bill gest that at the national level also, the students of schools and colleges as well as With regard to other aspects, I would other youth who are not being educated In Just like to mention about sports I think thiS colleges etc. Should also be given such kind one aspect which IS worth mentioning Now of cuhural opportunities ~o that the best out we are not able to give the necessary en- of them can be chosen and given due en· couragement to sports and cultural activities couragement. I would also Just like to sug- though at varIOus points we are trying to give gest a few programmes for the youth Of some kind of encouragement Of course, we course my learned hon. fnend Shn Hannan are devoting time. energy as well as money Mollah touched all those areas or many of 565 Youth Bill by VAISAKHA 21,1912 (SAKA) Shri Hannan Mollah 566 those areas or many of those aspects. I youth in my State. There is a youth hostel would suggest that youth exchange pro- which has been constructed in Thrikkakara, gramme is necessary especially in ourooun- in the Ernakulam District of Kerela It took a try from State to State to build up India, to very long time for its construction. After it have better encouragement and to have was constructed, it took along time for it to be bener feeling among the youth in order to inaugurated. Then a Ministertrom the Centre strengthen our nation. It can also be ex- came and inaugurated it. Now, for a very tended to exchange programmes in the inter- long time, the work has not started. It has not national sphere also. started fu nctioning even after several months.

I would just like to stress another point. PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): Why? Youth should be given some kind of interest and role. They should be given some kind of SHRI P. C. THOMAS: There may be involvement In tourism because that is a field reasons. That is why, I am placing it before where we have got much scope to develop. the Government so that this can be taken The other point which I would like to stress is note of. I am told that there a warden has to about the menace of drugs. Some kind of a be appointed. And a warden gets a salary of fight against this drug menace should be about Rs. 3000 to Rs. 4000. It is a covetable there. That i5 very necessary. For that, some post.· Applications have been called for and kind of channelisation has to be done when about 14 to 15 applications have come in. the Youth Policy is framed. Qualified persons are also there. But, some- how, some kind of appointment through the Apart from all these things, I may also back door is being thought of. That was one add that when we think of the rights of the of the allegations which I found in one news- youths, betterment of the youths, we must paper. Anyway, since there is no direct infor- also think about the hard work which the mation, I do not stress on that. I would say youths put In. For the very hard work which that youths are neglected in very many the youths of this country put in, the Policy flelds- Neglected even to the maximum should give a very strong stress on the need extent. When we formulate programmes, fortheir involveme,1t.1 am sure, the youths of when we put it Into action, even at that stage, thiS country will only take it up in the ngl,t we find that neglect creeps in. perspective if they are asked and If they are gIVen the opportunity to work hard In the I am sure, the Bill has given a very good spheres in which they do their work direction in this regard to see that the youths are not neglected. Youths should be recog- We see that many of the Indian youths nised and their capabilities and talents should whogo abroad. th~ywork very hard and they be recognised and that should be used for get very good reputation as persons who are their own development, for the development Involved In very good hard work. But some- of the community as well as forthe develop- how when we are-- engaged in work in our ment 01 the nation. counfry, at various levels, we find that we aresliding away from this very important [ Translation] aspect of har~ work. As my friend pointed out, it may be becauS€ our elders are also SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH (Buxar): doing that. I am sure, the elders as well as Mr. Chairman, Sir, I welcome this Bill moved the youths are interested in working hard. by Shri Hannan Mollah. Today, our youth are For that, a proper programme and its imple- the worst sufferers. A large numeber of them mentation has to be thought of when a Youth are unemployed. They do not get employ- Policy is framed and when legislations are ment even after their best efforts. Those who brought. want to study cannot continue it because their guardians cannot bear the expenses of I may also point out about the neglect of education. There are 25 clauses in this Bill. 567 Youth BIn by MAY 11, 1990 Hal-An-Hour Disc. Computer 568 Shn Hannan MoUah Assisted Sanskrit TeachIng & Leamlng Project

[Sh Tel Narayan Singh) children below 15 IS the worst According to law the children below 14 should not be HthIS Bill IS passed and becomes an act, the provided with any Job youth of our country will get an opportunity to make some progress because the develop- [English] ment of youth IS the development of the country, othelWlse the whole exercise Will be MR CHAIRMAN The hon Member futde According to the Government fgures may continue hiS speech on the next occa- about 4 crore doctors, engineers, profes- sIOn sors, postgraduates and graduates are j0b- less These figures have been published by the Government According to the Govern- ment the number of unemployed people 18.00 hrs_ was about 50 lakh In the year 1950 but at present, about 4 crore people are unem- HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION ployed HthiS situation continues one cannot say what will be the number of unemployed Computer Assisted Sanskrit Teaching after 2-4 years If thiS Bill becomes an act and Learning Project then the number of unemployed can be reduced otherWIse It Will go on mcreaslng [EnglIsh] No doubt, development of Kerala took place because of literacy but the literacy rate In MR CHAIRMAN Now, we shall take up Bihar which IS also a part of the country IS Half an hour d,SCUSSIOn Prof VIJay Kumar very low Even an Intelligent child cannot get Malhotra hiS educatIOn because hiS guardian cannot afford to meet the expenses on educatIOn { TranslatIOn] when crops of farmers are rUined by heavy rams then they are unable to make their both PROF VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA ends meet In these circumstances how can (Deihl Sadar) Mr Chairman, Sir the answer they afford the expenses on educatIOn of given by the han MInister to a questIOn No their children I support thiS Bill and hope that 188 on 26th March, 1990 regarding the the people who have progressive views WI" computer assisted Sanskrit TeachIng and also support It The people who do not have learnIng Project and Sanskrit as a sclPntlflc faith In SOCialism Will not support It. In the language of computer was not satISfactory present situatIOn a few persons might be at all It does not generate any hope forfuture gettmg some faCIlities but the oondrtlOn of 90 also He said that two computer-assisted per cent IS going from bad to worse Our Sanskrit teaching and learnmg prolects had youth mIgrate from their State to other states been started In the Jawahar Lal Nehru UnI- to get an employment but they do not get rt versrty and the Lal Bahadur Shastri Kendnya A postgraduate IS ready to accept the JOb of Vldyapeeth In the year 1988-89 But every a peon There IS a proVISion that If a graduate effort IS being made to ehmlnate Sanskrit In does not go for a JOb he can start hiS busl accordance with the educatIOn poiie)' of the ness with the help of the Government No Government and rt has been excluded from such assIstance IS prOVided to anyone In the three language formula also "Sanskrit eXisting law The Janata Dal Government language IS not to be taught In schools and has given an assurance of right to work to the colleges, what would be the use of com- youth by amending the Constrtutlon There puter-assisted Sanskrit teaching and learn- IS a Similar proVISIOn In clause 11 of th,s Bill Ing project as who Will learn Sansknt ian- If the House passes thiS Bill, the youth Will be guage? Therefore,l wantto say that Sanskrit benefited I do not agree that maximum age should be taught In sChools and colleges I limit for work should be reduced to 35, the want to mentIOn thIS pOIOt partICUlarly whICh age of 15-45 IS all right The conditIOn of the IS Important from the pomt of VieW of India 569 Half-An-Hour Disc. VAfSAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Sanskrit Teaching & 570 Computer Assisted Leaming Project afso that the world has aoceptedthis fact that that the meaning and construction oi sen- Sanskrit is the rich language for computers. tences are not disturbed eyen after change When NASA Army Research Centre has in place of words. Different approach can be declared that Sanskrit is the rich and most observed in regard to semantics in jurispru- suitable language for computers and there is dence, grammar and 'Mimansa'. Therefore, no need to conduct further research with Sanskrit is a unique language of the world. regard to any other human language, India should be the happiest country. We should Secondly, maximum literature of sci- ourselves initiate steps in this connection ence and knowledge is available is Sanskrit. first of all. Authentic material on Ayurveda, diagnosing diseases, medicine, surgery, Architecture, The Research fellows of California Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Agriculture, University has also declared that the count- Astrology and Astronomy is available in ,ng system of mathematics for computers abundance in Sanskrit. But this infinite litera- particularly Bionri system has been com- ture is not available to the modem scientists. pletely explained in the Vedic Mathematics. Therefore, if computerisation of the different The Mathematicians having knowledge of books of Sanskrit is made possible this en- Vadas used to apply this system. tire knowledge would be available to the people of the entire world. 18_03 hrs. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair} that keeping in view all this, computerisation of Sanskrit is very simple and easy and it is On the basis of their research they have also quite essential. In this manner science accepted the Vedas as the base for com- can be revived in India and can be utilised for puter calculations. The most difficult equa- the present day requirements. While reply- tions of mathematics can be solved with the ing to the main question the Han. Minister help of Vedic formulas told by Shankara- referred to the major problem. He said that charya. The accurate value of 'Pai' can be the people who know Sanskrit and who are ascertained with the formulas of Vedic mathe- great scholars of Sanskrit, do not have matics. When the whole world has accepted computer knowledge and those who have Sanskrit as most suitable and SCientific lan- knowledge of computers are quite ignorant guage for computers then why is Sanskrit about Sanskrit. The main question is that not being accepted here in the same form how there can be an inter action between the The Government has not made any endeav- two. The Hon. Minister has not referred iO our which ought to have been made after thiS point. I know that most of computer providing such signijicant knowledge to the scientists of today and people workmg in world. The han. Minister has stated very electronics are very much influenced by casually that a soft ware is being set up in western culture and western technology and Pune. . they are not only completely ignorant about the Indian culture and Sanskrit language but There are various reasons of suitability they have also no respect for it. That IS why of Sanskrit for computers. The two main even after accepting the Sanskrit as scien- reasons are that the script of Sanskrit is tific language by the entire world, they do not phonetic and the categorisation of alphabet make adequate effort which should have regulates the 'Sandhi" and word formation. been made in this regard due to ignorance The structural aspect of the language is very and mental slavery. Political leaders have scientific and based on certain rules. Ac- also not fel1 its need because it has nothing cording to semantics Sanskrit is a unique to do with voters. Therefore, they have al~o language In respect of expression of knowl- disregarded it. This can be the great£':; edge and method of learning. The main contribution to the world from India that ",. fea·ure of the construction of sentences is may take initiative for making this hlr .~ 571 Half-An-Hour Disc. MAY 11,1990 Sanskrit Teaching & 572 Computer Assisted Learning Projllct

fProf. Vijay Kumar Malhotra] computer science is being tall$Jht if Sanskrit is also added to the syUabus, they can also language a computer language. It is very be benefited in the long run especially when essential. the whole world has accepted this fact. As I said earlier, Central Government should I have 3-4 suggestions in this regard earmark separate budget provision for it and and I would like to know from the hon. provide financial 'and technical assistance to Minister that will he be able to state whether the aforesaid agency. J feel that keeping in he is considering to set up a coordinated view the importance of the matter these Integrated Agency to carry out this task? An concrete steps should be taken whicn may , agency should be set up which may try to show result. India can contribute many things carry on this work of making Sanskrit which to the world inthefield of science and through is a scientific language. a computer lan- Aurveda system of medicine etc. It would be guage and try to establish a link between the the ~st. contribution to the world in present two. Till now he has referred to the efforts age it Sanskrit is made scientific. viable and made in Pune and Vidyapeeth only. A small appropriate language of computer. " India effort is being made at different places but a contributes in this work which is being under- Single integrated agency should be set up taken by the world if would prove useful for and there should be a time-bound programme. the world and Indian culture. There should for this task. Particular targets should be not ,be any laxity on the part of han. Minister fixed 10rthem and same should be achieved, in this task and sincere. efforts should be rt would be India's best contribution to be made to carry on this task extenSively. world. It should have its own software library and there should be a separate budget for it. {English] No separate budget provision has be!'>n made for this purpose so far. An officer should be SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- appointed who should make every effort to lem): At the outset, I would like to thank the make the Sanskrit a computer language, Speaker and the Chair for having permitted establish software and arrange other essen- this subject and admit1ed the same for Hatt- tla\ materials reqUIred for the same. an-hour Discussion. When the matter came up in this House as a Starred Question, On such persons should be posted In fundamental issues were broughttothe notice the aforesaid Agency who are scholars of of thIS House, some of which has already Sanskrit and have authority over computer been raised by Mr. Malhotra. He has brought science. It is, of course, very difficult. The to the notice of the House that Sanskrit, learned people and the scholars of Sanskrit b&eause of its grammar and structure, has and those who study in M.A. in Sanskrit fro, n been considered to be one of the most different universities and to for other GOur i;lS suitable known languages which can be should be advised to study computer ,ci- adopted directly for being used as a oom- ence courses a,nd the people who are =>rk- puter language in itsself, so lang as the ing in computer science and passing com- binary code for each one of the aspects puter science from different u,niversities may could be worked out. But, I think. it can be be urged to study Sanskrit language. In this appropriate and relevant for me to bring to manner it can be done very easily. At present the notice of the hen. Minister and the also in syllabus for the students of B.Tech. Members of this House, through you, that and M: Tech. In Computer Science, Sansk,;Q Sanskrit came'into existence ultimately from can be added, Both these things can be Brahmi. And before Brahmi, we saw a script linked and in my opinion it sha,uld be done. even earlier-and one may call it a langllage of Pali. Tamil was born almost at the same Besides this, in three thousand Sanskrit time when Sanskrit came into existence. schools, computer courses are being taught One of the .scripts that we used at that time and in lakh of private institutions where was the Brahmi saipt and we used it for the 573 Half-An-Hour Disc. VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Sanskrit Teaching & 574 Computer Assisted Leaming Project

purpose of writing. later on, Tamil had de- Sanskrit often are not the person who under- veloped its own script. Hown looks up at the stand computer and persons who can under- Tamil gram mer and text minus, the influence stand computers do not know the Sanskrit which Aryans later brought into the lan- language. There is no criticism with regard to guage, you can notice that it is almost similar the fact that today Sanskrit is being learnt and identical in so far as the manner in which more for understanding the history and less the language is written. The complications for its usage. It is really unfortunate, I don't that exists in Hindi ir so far as its thrilling and say it is fortunate at all. Therefore, you find it pulling, etc. are concerned, do not exist in much easier to find people who know re- Tamil. We do not change our words depend- gionallanguages and other languages that ing upon the gender with which they are are spoken. Take the precisions from those attached. I bring thiS to the notice of the hon. languages, leave the imperfections apart Minister only to emphasise that one does not and build a language which a common per- disagree with the fact that Sanskrit is a very son-who knows his mother tongu~n well organised language but there are other easily program. After all what is the purpose language also In India, Including my own of creating an ASCII Code and from this mother tongue which IS very systematic, code ultimately creating a language for the methodical and precise. Leaving that aspect purpose of programming? The purpose is to apart, I think, the Importance today is not the facilitate the human machine's interaction. question of whether Sailsknt alone should be the language of computer or some other Now, program in itseH, if I understand language can also be there as the language correctly, would be easier if it is done in a 01 computer. Computers can really become language which I understand totally, in which powerful tools 01 development only i1 the I am able to communicate. If you make only spoken language of an individual becomes Sanskrit the language that would ultimately the language of the computer. I am sure that be the language for programming, you will the hon. Minister would recollect that nearly once again have the same difficulty that you 67 years ago, the very spoken language are facing today with English or sub-sads of known as English was developed as a English called Basic or new languages like computer language. I do not mean the lan- the Gobal or FORTRAN etc. That is you will guage called the 'baSIC' but I mean the have to learn another language in order to language called 'pure Eflghsh'. It is a fact that learn the computer programming. Is it nec- the systems software and other software essary to go through that phase? Therefore, that went Into creating the code for English I think the emphasis should really lie on not was a little long. If I recollect rightly, it used to ignoring the Sanskrit language at all. San- occupy something like 540 kilo bites of skrit could be the basis but ultimately the memory space but that speeded up a lot of Indian regional languages or what are kr')w'l software programming in English schools. as Indian languages-at least those o"r Similarly, I am reasonably certain that you Schedule and the Co:1stitution~huula can develop languages, the very Indian become the basis for creating computer languages, the regional languages, if neces- language. It is from this that you will create sary, as Similar computer-based an atmosphere where a com moner, may be languages. What IS some times a little unsys- in a village, who speaks his mother-tongue tematIC, a little ImpreCise could be broug~t and is a illiterate but has the ability to pro- out. It is not necessary that every imperfec- gram think and plan a programe would be tion In a lang'Jage be built into the extract of able to programe even the computer. the language that you use for the purpose of i computer programming. If I may submit, as Computer· has unfortunately become we understand the problem which you are the black box which most people do not really faCing-you have already stated on understand. They think it is a very sophisti- the floor of the Hous~ earlier-is a matter of cated. automated equipment which in reality Inter-diSCiplinary area that is, those who know it is not. It is simply using the fundamental 575 Half-An-Hour DIsc. MAY 11, 1990 Sanskrit Teaching & 576 Computer Assisted Leaming Project

[Sh. P.R. Kumaramangalam] that calculator has not .gone down to the grassroots. Yes, it is there in the urban cities. principle of sWitching on and off and giving it But has it reached our villages? No. It is a zero and one code, and from that using the because the language that is used, even that normal principle of anthmetlcs and mathe- alpha numeric, i.e. The Arabian technic of matics and develoPing from It--by program- 1,2,3,4 that has been adopted by us is still ming-the ability to analyse It IS ultimately find a resistance. It is essentially because what we teach. h does not has Its own the familiarity does not exist. Nobody under- artlflclallntelhgence developed by means of stands how it works. Unless we indigenous genetic herrtage or any such thing It IS a tool. the very concept of computensatlOll, I am Now, how effectively can you use that tool sorry to state, computers will remain one of depends on you The more nearer you are to those toys which the upper echelons of the tool In terms of commUniCation, more society. admire and enjoy rather than really a friendly you use It, the more effectively you tool of development. can use the tool I would plead, If necessary, pray, If It IS my request that Rs 17 crores that necessary. to the han. Mlntster. through you. you have allotted-If I recollect rrghtly In your that the allocation should at least be in- answer on the 26th March you said, "The creased ten times over If you want at least total allocation of Rs 17 crores for the next I:lalf of the Indian regional languages to be plan penod IS for development of Sanskrit treated as the gUide rule for creating a and all other Indian languages "-IS a Pit- computer based Indian languages tance and thiS amount of money IS Irrelevant. You will not be able to do Justice even to [ TranslatIon] Sanskrrt alone If you really want to develop the Indian language based computer lan- SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Hen. guage then It IS necessary that you make an Deputy Speaker, Slf, It has become clear appropriate Investment If you want to ex- that Sanskrit is a Viable language for com- tract the real talent that IS lYing at the core of puter. Today, the POint IS thiS that even after every Ind la n wt)o basically IS a genius-after 40 years of Independence. India has not all nobody can deny that we have thousands been able to become real India. In order to of years of CIVIlization behind us which gives und~rstand India, one has to follow Its lan- us the analytlc-al mind our very diversity IS guage. Just now Shn Kumarmangalam has our strength-why IS It that they are not able said that we should give stress on regIOnal to utilise thiS hutTla'l resource? Because we languages I am not against the regIOnal are not giving him the tools to do It Everyone languages but the POint IS that we were of us know that computers, until they be- famous In the whole world and W6-re conSid- come common man 5 property. Will never ered to be ahead of everyone In the world really be a useful tool It Will remam a tool for The ruins of Nalanda and Texla Universities those Capitalists who wanted to do away indicate even today towards our leading role With manual labour It would be a tool for In the past In the world It IS proved by It that those who want to be-fuddle. who want In the people from entire world used to come to the name of computers cheat others, who Nalanda and Texla for studies. What was want to create or rather get rtd of the prob- thelf languages? It was surely Sanskrrt. The lems of being laboured under them, It IS for people coming from all over the world at- "Jt purpose It IS being used today and not tainted knowledge through Sanskrit forthepurposeforwhlch It should be used as a too. Even the sm;::11 calculator that we see I wdnt to submit that the people think IS Itself a computer Because It does some 1hat lanauago used In the books VIZ. Bee) simple arithmetiC and people are able to see ganltarr '1" I ," ~ , ,1 ::; t"lat oj Astrol- tmmedlatelythat 2+2=4 ThiS IS what It shows. ogy or the one used by Pandlts In Horo- That IS not too much of questIOning But even scopes etc. but study upto 'Shastri' and sn Half-An-Hour Disc. VAISAKHA-21, 1912 (SAKA) Sanskrit Tew:hing & 578 Computer Assisted Learning Project

'Achariya' in Astrology IS totally based on tionally rich Meghdoot. 'Beej ganit' and 'Rekha ganit'. In order to follow Ayurveda people talk about it. These Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if we have to days plastic surgery is working wonders in understand India, Shri KumaramangaJam, it the entire world but no one knew it 15 years is very essential to understand the Indian before. It is called Indian Plastic Surgery culture which is possible through Sanskrit because it is totally Indian. Today's Plalltic only. We cannot develop our culture until we Surgery is contained in 'Sushrut Sahita'. al~e substantial amounts for Sanskrit Foreign countries did research and intro- and given full attention towards it. Today this duced Indian Plastic Surgery to entire world task is not given due importance. Adequate from 'Sushrut Sanhita' Ayurveda is very rich resource are not made available for this literature of the world which is vanishing. I work. I remember that there was a separate would like to ask Shri Kumaramangalam that Ministry for Sanskrit in Rajasthan and an- is it not correct that Mughals had utilised our other one for the Aurveda. Thereiore, I re- ancient literature to worm the water in the quest the National Front Government that if bathrooms for their queens. Our ancestors Government wants to encourage Sanskrit, gave shape to our culture. My teacher told more funds should be allocated in the Budget me about Sidhant Komidi of Panini that is not for this purpose. I remember that large sums only to be read but should be learnt by heart. get lapsed inspite of making provison in the I learnt by heart and narrated it to others. I budget and these are not fully utilised. This want to say about the 'Aurveda literature' point should be looked into. that a shloka was written by the Madhavkar Achariya 1600-1700 years before. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, fifteen years earlier Germany started broadca&ting news "Sarvaev Pramehastu, Katena Prati- in Sanskrit for the first time. Sanskrit lan- karina, guage is being used for broadcasting news Madhumehatav Mayanti, tada sadhya there. Here 5-7 minutes news bulletin in Bhavantihi" Sanskrit had been started 5-7 years before which is broadcast at odd hours. The broad- Today, doctors know about only diabe- casting time is such that no one has any urge ~es but Aurvedic literature was so rich, that it to listen to these news. has been written therein that there are 20 types of urinary diseas9s and these 20 types Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to urinary disease convert into diabetes- and submit to the National Front Government become incurable. Modern scientists talk through you that if they want to rebuild India about 21 stcentury but they are still unable to and wantthat ;ndia should play a leading role find the medicine for diabetes and even in the world, then they should playa leading today it is a incurable disease. The person role in the world, then they should allocate who invented insulin for the world died of more funds for Sanskrit. It is regrettable that diabetes, he himseij could not be cured an~ Sanskrit is being curtailed gradually from the our Aurveda had described it 1600-1700 schools where it was ~ing taught earliQr. years before but it is our bad luck today the Sanskrit has been excluded from the syllabi people have forgotten our Ayurveda. astron- of the Government-run central schools. I omy and geography. Even today very rich would like to request that the hon. Minister literature is available in Sanskrit. It can be should ask the Education Minister to include proved by the study of Abhigyan Shakunta- Sanskrit again in the syllabi from the forth lam, Ragruvansh Mahakavyam, MeghdOOt coming session which begins in July. The etc. Today the people living in the western Government should prepare a pilot project talk of Shakesphere but Shakesphere's for the development of Sanskrit so that India poetry ~ _ no match with the Kalidas's may retain its pristine glory. Abhigyan Shakuntalam. All aspects of our culture have been concerned in our tradi- Only Sanskrit can make India a beacon- 579 HaH-An-Hour Disc. MAY 11,1990 Sanskrit Teaching & 580 Computer Assisted Learning Project

[Sh. Dau Dayal Joshij meagre amount of money provided for the preparation of Computer soft -ware for San- light and torch-bearer of the world once skrit, as no work has been done in the again. No other language can help India in direction of basic research. The main Con- regaining Its ancient glory. Only Sanskrit can cern is the apathetic attitude or the part of rescue India from its continually deepening the officials of the Department 8f Educaticn crisis. This fact has been proved even by the towards the institutions engaged in keeping computer. It is vain to say that Sanskrit is a this language alive. Your assistance to them diffICult and In connect prehensible language. is insufficient. The Somaiyaya Umversity of Bombay has claimed With a challenge that this language Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, following the can be learnt spoken and read by just 10 advent of computer and microprocessor the days effort If any hon Member interested I use of Indian languages is decreasing. We can arrange It for him I. can be learnt spoken are unable to co-ordinate between the and read within ten days if adequate atten- mechanical cuds and the use Indian lan- tion IS gIVen. Therefore, It is a fallacy an guages In use of offICial work So due to conspiracy to call It a difficult language. advent over computes, English IS replaCing Sanskrit IS being diSCriminated again. Hon. Hindi once again. MInister should provide a budget for rt and a separate Ministry should be set-up for It so Again, the attempts to prepare Com- that proper care IS taken of thiS language puter-software for regional languages are Just show-pieces and there IS no attempt to Similar IS the case with Ayurveda. link them with dally chores This Issue has would like to request that Government should been discussed earher and work on all In- set-up a separate Ministry for thiS also so dian languages wars assured through a that Ayurveda may prosper side. by-side technology miSSion under one umbrella. But with Sanskrit and ancient traditions Only unfortunately, while technology MISSIOn IS traditIOnal system can take the natIOnal functiOning under the MInistry of SCience ahead. The more ancient our foundatIOn, the and technology whereas the co-ordlnated more bnght our future Will be. With thiS I development of languages IS the responsI- conclude my speech bility of MInistry of EducatIOn. No link eXists between the two The department of Elec- SHRI HARISH RAWAT' Mr. Deputy tronICS thinks that the baSIC work done by it Speaker, Sir, I leave It Kumaramangalam IS enough and It hon left Its Implementation and Menon Sahib to decide whICh IS most to other departments who do not want to ancient of the there languages Sanskrit, adopt It. There IS no hnk between the Pune Tamil and Malayalam. I am concemed about IOstltute run by ElectronICS department and the plght of languages hke Pair and Brahmle Sanskrit Vtdyapeeths functIOning under your whICh have now become the preserve of few mimstry. You should estabhsh co-ordination scholars Some people of our generatIOn between all such institutIOns related to San- may even fall to acknowledge them as their skrit ·and other Indian languages, so that anCient languages. Unfortunately Sanskrrt IS preparatIOn of computer soft-ware pro- also heading forwards same fate as It has gresses rapidly. It is become a necessity as been dehnked from employment. Only few English has once again left all these lan- Institutions of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh are guages much behind in this field. Therefore, engaged In Its teaching and development. we must bridge the gap between these lan- The assistance belOg given by the State and guages and English by prepanng Computer Central Government to the people uSing It IS soft-ware. Now-a-days computer IS no more worship, trcunlng and teaching IS totally in- confined to draWing rooms of some top offi- adequate. cials. h is becoming a common commodity. Therefore, a well co-ordlnated projec1 is a Malhotra Sahib IS concerned about the must for the preparation of computer soft- 581 Half-An-Houl Disc. VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Sanskrit TeldJing & 582 Comput91 Assisted Leaming Proj9ct

ware in these languages and your ministry Sanskrit. Therefore Sanskrit should be pr0- should provide money for it. It is the respon- moted on priority basis. The regional lan- sibility of your ministry to provide basic infra- guages should also be promoted as they are structure and to promote further develop- also useful and have replace a unique place; ment in this regard. But your department has but they cannot replace Sanskrit. Therefore, done very little and whatever progress is Sanskrit and regional languages should be there is merely on the files. You should treated at a different footing. provide more money for it. One of my friend has taken exception to some wards used by Shri Kumaramangalam. Let me say that he As far as Sanskrit education and its use is not against Sanskrit and has said nothing in computer is concerned. It cannot be done against it. He simply said that it was not a in the absence of good teachers and a defi- question of Sanskrit alone and its suitability nite endeavour is needed in this regard. I of computer could be decided only by lour would like to know from the han. Minister the learne9 scientists and technicians. There- names of the institutions chosen for com- fore. the Government should assist them in puter-training of teachers and whether these this project. institutions are authorised or recognised by the Government? I would also like to know from the hon. Minister the names of the Lastly, I would like to suggest that there projects started under teachers training are some links among our ancient languages programme or any other programme for particularly those who have some common teaching Sanskrit language and also the features. For example. Ashirvadam is pro- institutions which have been entrusted with nounced in identically mSanskrit and Telugu the responsibility to prepare computer soft and its pronunciation in Hindi is also the ware. This could from the basis for giving same. Therefore. our universities an institu- them the required funds alongwith concrete tions which are working In this field should be projects for providing training in Sanskrit entrusted with the responsibiJity of tracing through computers. such links and developing a common script for computer. I would also like to know from han. Minister the arr-angements made to prepare computer software for schools and the fol- DR LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA low-up action taken in this regard? (Mandsaur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. despite the fact that Sanskrit is a scientific language and IS the mother of almost all Lastly, I woukt like to know Govern- Indian languages, adequate attention has ments other projects besides computerisa- not been pard to its study. teaching and tion to propagate and spread Sanskrit which propagation unlike Hindi and that regional is not only unique and scientific but a na- languages. Sanskrit should have been given tional asset also, being a rich language. Will proper importance. But it was never so. the Government provide separate funds for Therefore, it IS necessary to provide ade- Sanskrit as ti does not case of other lan- quate facilities for its study and teaching. guages. As far as its education is concerned Today every institution :mparting Education it is being dropped even in those states in Sanskrit is either dropping it or is in bad where it was once studied. I would like to shape. As a result people are not attracted suggest its indusion in school's syHabi as a toward it and despite being a nice and compulsory subject so that it may attracts immensely useful language. it is not in peopkts attention and they may cultivate a common use. Whenever we need a new naturallidng for it. Besides the existing train- world concerning subjects like medicine, ing programmes also need fresh impetus so science etc. for preparing a terminology in that Sanskrit would gradualiy region its bst Hindi or other languages. we have to go to glory. 583 Half-An-HotJr Disc. MAY 11,1990 Sanskrl Teaching & 584 Computer Assisted LfNlming Projet;t

[English] tongue. So. educational technologies have moved forward in this regard. In that sense, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the earlier question which I have referred to MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNoL- and the answers to that, were with reference OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): Sir. first of 10 the use of computers in the teaching and a". I would like to thank Prof. Vijay Kumar learning of Sanskr:t. That is the first point I Malhotra for raising this very important topic. want to make. In that, I had already de- and also all the hon. Members who have scribed in deta~, so, I won't go into that--lhe participated in the discussion, who have various programmes which we are under- made very important points. But, at the out- taking under the auspices of the Department set, I must say thatthe discussion has ranged of Electronics. over much wider ground than the qllestion of Sanskrit and computers. h has gone across I would not like to come to the second the total spectrum _of all Indian languages, aspeCt which is somewhat different, and that the question of Indian culture, the whoJQ relates to the poi.,tthatthe hon. Member Shri gamut of areas like Ayurveda, astronomy, Kumaramangalam raised, concerning the algebra, geometry and the wealth of infor- mannei in which information technology in mation. of knowledge that has come down to general and computers more particularly are us from ancient periods. And I would ~ke to made use of. He made an extremely impor- say that discussion of this nature would merit tant point that if, for instance, computers can much wider consideration, not just by the only be handled with inputs and outputs Ministry of Science and Technology or the solely in the English language. then one Department of Electronics, but areas ~ke restricts their usages. their applications to education. health and other sectors. very limited number of people in the country, those who know English-and the bulk of the I would now like to say that particular people in the country are those who do not discussion arose out of a Starred Question know English. The question he raised was which I answered and which specifically how does one bring about more meaningful deatt with aspects of teaching and learning usage of information technology by making related to Sanskrit and the use of computers these instruments of information technol- and, so, a large part of the answers which I ogy; such as, computers. available to the gave to the supplementaries on that occa- largest number in the country who know our sion, related to this specific question and I other Indian languages, all the languages would like to start from that point. First, we which we have prescribed in our Constitu- have to recognise that we have languages tions, and so on. And it is here that the and over a period of time the manner in second aspect of our work lies. Hitherto. as which languages are taught. the manner in the hen. Members are aware, one essen- which languages are learnt. have benefited tially dealt with computers in this country with significantly from new technologies. We are English keyboards, which means essentially familiar that hundred years ago if you wanted that you were to know English. you have to to learn a language, you went to the place, know the English alphabet. the words,in the country, the region concerned and learnt order to able to enter into computers or get it by mixing with the people. You learnt in information out of computers. So, the effort classrooms. Today, however, through a now has been there and that is where of'le succession of processes which involved has been successful in transmutation which earlier on gramophone records, going on to essentially means that now one would be cassettes, videos and so on, you can bring able to produce key-boards which are not the environment yourseH and. therefore, can only in English but they will be available in learn language not only in terms of vocabu- any Indian languages or of the Oevnagari lary, grammer, but in terms of being able to base, as also in the other languages which handle it exactly like those who have been are not in Devnagari script such as in Tamil, brought up in that language as their mothe~- Kannada, MaJayalam, Telugu and so on. 585 Hal-An-Hour Disc. VAISAKHA21, 1912 (SAKA) Sanskrit Teac:hing & 586 Computer Assisted Leaming Project

There is the second aspect Of It, namely, if Sanskrit as a language in relation not com- someone only knew Tamil or only knew puters. Before I come 10 that point, I would Kannada or only knew MaJayalam or only like to make a few other clariflC810ry sys- knew Gujarati who wishes to make use of tems. computers, he would do so. Now, how would they enter through their languages and get First, there is no question about it that out in their languages? That is the second Sanskrit is a language which has an type of work which requires a very major enormous richness. -: ... , just in terms of lan- advance in the technique that one should get guage, not just in terms of its grammar but in pass that point in these sense that you can terms of all the other things whidl the hon. enter data which may in Andhra Pradesh in Member has referred. Prof. Malhotra re- T elugu, but you may be able to analyse and ferred to them, Shri Harish Rawat and Shr1 the rest of it. The computer system has its Joshi referred to them. In terms of aspects own system capabilities and now you can which relate to our earlier intellectual think- put in Hindi. Therefore. there is the question ing in the fields of mathematics. in Ayurveda. of getting all the language groups. This is not In Astronomy. in a whole range of our coun- translation at that stage.This is input-output try's cultural basis of which all these thought- by different forms. I want to distinguish it that processes are evolved and reached a verI from translation. high level, there is no question about that and, therefore, Sanskrit is more than just a The third area which has been of inter- matter of learning language. You can cer- est to people IS that where one has not had tainly use Sanskrit like any other language, much success, in the sense of major suc- you can learn it and I colJld give the speech cess there are efforts and research papers in Sanskrit as I would do in English or in and so on. What one calis machme-base Hindi. But Sanskrit is more than that. h rJoes translatIOns is that If I wrote a poem or novel contaIn the elements of cultural heritage and In Tamil or In Matayalam and you want the intellectual heritage which covers a very machines just to take it and give you a wide span of human creative activity. There translated novel or poem in Hindi or even in is no question about it and ~ learning San- Russian or Ch inese, it does not do so. there- skrit, by having an access to this vast amount fore, today we do have human translators, of literature which is in Sanskrit. in these human brain, somebody who knows two areas one opens up the possibility of a languages who can operate it. That is the thought processes. the cultural heritage. etc. third asped. Therefore, I have no doubt in my mind that Sanskrit must be given an important place in The very important POint which has been our educational system to enable those who raIsed by the mover of the discussion, Prot. learn it and those who lean it to have an Malhotra, relates to the basic role of Sanskrit access to this heritage. And that is the point and In a way it is different from any of these which one discusses in relation fo the three- things whICh I have described as not the language formula and how Sanskrit should questIOn of being able to use Sanskrit just as be used and whether one would encourage one does today. If you know English you can the teaching of Sanskrit and more people to use any of the computer which people nor- take up Sanskrit and so on. mally use. They know Fotran language sys· tem, basic or Cabal or any of the language But let me new come back to the more system. various levels of languages and specific question and that specific question they can essentially hanstle a computef, have was about Sanskrit as a language. And here inputs into it and get outputs, make their reference was made in earlier discussions in programmes and so on. As I said, our efforts the Supplementaries which were raised by are to ensure whether this can be done in both the hon. Members, Prof. Malhotra just Indian languages. But a very fundamental now and also be Shri Kumaramangalarn, point which has been raised is regarding about some of the aspects relating to the 587 Ha/f-An-Hour Disc. MAY 11,1990 Sanskrit TeCfChing & 588 Computer Assisted Leaming Project

[Prof. M.G.K. Menon] upon inputs and outputs in a cenail'l precise manner. That is what takes us to the whole area of scripts and of languages. And here I area of artificial languages. of Mathematics. would like to give a little clarificatory state- the whole binary logic systems and so on, ment. We know basically two dasses of which has led to the phenomenal growth of language, one is what we call natural Ian- the computer system. We are not dealing guages and naturally languages are what any more with scripts, it is not a question of we all use in daily life which means any of the whether you are dealing with Brahmi script existing languages, whether they are Hindi, or Pali script. what was the original from Gujarat!, Marathi, Kannada, Tamil, Malay- which all the cuneiform scripts derivEI'd, from alam, Bengali, wherever we are the lan- where Kannada or Tamil or Telugu or Malay- guages we use or abroad if we wish to alam scripts which came or totally different whether they are English or Spanish or from the Devnagari script-we are not deal- French or Russian or Chinese or Japanes~ ing with those questions, we are dealing these are all natural languages. These are more with the fundamental rules and those the languages which we use for our natural rules are the basis for the precision which living and life and Sanskrit has been one of Mathematics provides. them and so where the other languages like Latin, Greek and so on which are ancient Now, about the basic point, Sir, and that languages and which were used that way, I think is the question which is raised, let us however. currently those are not a large take Sanskrit of all these languages. And it is scale use. For these purposes, the other time that Sanskrit has the greatest precision natural languages which 'I spoke about j3re of all languages in that respect in terms of the the ones which are in large scale use. gram.mar, in terms of the rule based synta1( However, one must also remember that and the whole structure of it, it is not my natural languages have enormous value in intention to go into detail, I say, on what terms of the colloquial interaciton of prose Sanskrit is based. It is true that Sanskrit has and poetry in terms of riches, but they suffer, certain real precision. that is the reason why if you are a scientist, in terms of what one one has raised the question not so long ago, would call precision in terms of vigour, in but relatively recently because the area of terms of accuracy. That is why, the queen of computers going into other language sys- all the languages from that point of view, if tems is only of this decade. Prior to that, a you talk of preciSion Or rigour or accuracy, is computer was a complex object which had indeed MathematICs. In MathematiCS within its own language. I can certainly recall that the framework of the axioms, the premises when we built the first digital computer in the on which you work, there is no ambiguity. country which was at the Institute where I When you write write something exdusively worked, the Tata Institute of Fundamental In Mathematics,ln Algebra, in Geometry, it is Research, you had to learn the language of absolutely exclusive. There are certain rules, that computer to be able to work with it. you follow the rules and what you get are absolutely unambiguous statements. under- 19.00 hrs. standing conceptually in terms of action and this is, theref.:>re, a language in this own It would not accept anything else. It right. Most people would not say that Mathe- knows only its language and you have to matics Is a language. But Mathematics is learn its language to work with it. However, indeed a language for that purpose. tt con- today you do not have to learn the language veys certain information in a certain precise, of the computer because you do not have to vigorous form and that is what one really learn the language of the computer because requires in these logical systems that we are you Can address it in simplified languages dealing with in computers because there like Fortran. Basic. Cobol etc. The day is one is dealing with information which has to coming when you can even speak to the be handled, processed, computed. worked computer in a natural form and you do not 589 Half-An-Hour Disc. VAISAKHA 21, 1912 (SAKA) Sanskrit T9BChing & 590 Computer Assisted Learning ProjIIct

have to write it. You can even address it and Sir. a reference was made by other speakers the speech will be recognised. The com- to the question of teachers' training and so puter will handle the rest of it. The question on and so forth. All these things will be is: what is the heart of the computer in terms integrated through this group and we cer- of its own language? Does the Paninian tainly intend to use the scholars who are grammar and the very elaborate rule struc- available with us in Sanskrit .I hope, with the ture of Sanskrit permit it to be in that cate- recommendations of this group, some of the gory? This, I think. is important, because of more concrete suggestions made by Prof. all the languages that we know and certainly Malhotra will also get implemented. He also compared to all the Indian languages and mentioned about taking scholars in Sanskrit compared to all the other languagbes whether at M.A. level and giving them background It is Latin, French, Spanish, Italian, English courses in computers and similarly to have and so on, Sanskrit undoubtedly has this those with computer capabilities and give position. Now, how far will it be able to them basic training in Sanskrit, so that they become one of the artificial languages which can interact with each other. Obviously, we approach the use of mathematics in that do not people in completely different com- form, has yet to be ·seen. It is in this connec- partments. We do not want to have people tion I referred to the work which is now in who know Sanskrit but do not understand progress a In India at the Centre in Pune. It computers and people who know about will also be done In variety of other institu- computers but not understanding Sanskrit. tions to pursue thiS, because ldo believe that This wi" be looked after by this committee. it has a very interesting research possibility Now I would also like to point out that a and thereafter for large-scale utilisation. I reference has been made to the total pro- would also like to mention that apart from the gramme and the figure of Rs. 17 crores was question of Sanskrit used in its specifIC form, mentioned by the han. Member, Shri there IS the whole question of its richness, Kum~ramangalam. I would only say at this culture and heritage. Prof. Malhotra has stage that the Eighth Plan has not been raised a very important question. How does finalised. Therefore, we cannot give the fig- one bring this inter-disciplinary group to- ure which will be finally allocated tor this gether? I do not want to take the time of the purpose. However, the figures which I have House in reading to you the whole list of given are the amounts which one has asked names of people. But I would like to assure for in this programme relating to Indian lan- hifTI that the committee which deals with this guages. tOPIC consists of a very large number of the most distinguished scholars in the country, I would like to assure the han. Member In a whole range of fields which cover vari- that when we are talking of this amount of ous areas of ancient Indian sciences of money. this does not represent like putting Ayurveda, MathematICS, Sanskrit scholars up a fertilizer plant or petro chemical plant or and Computer experts. We have a large large scale teaching programmes involving wide-based committee where we are trying a large number of children in schools or to bring In people of different types. He something like that. It is not that scale factor mentioned very pointedly about the fact that we have drawn This money to be spent by if one has work being done in a variety of the Department of Electronics is for the institutions a" round the country in different purpose of getting things done in a way departments, is there a thrust or focus by where we have a key board whiah enables which this effort can be pushed forward. I input-output in Indian languages, which would like to say, as far as the question of enables bringing together goods of this na- Indian languages is ooncernad, we are tura, which will then say. what are the esaen- dealing with the Department of Official lan- tial elements in Sanskrit as precise languages. with the Department of Education guage, with its rules, with its Paninian Gram- and with the Department of Electronics mer, 'Which may make it meaningfut as a coming together on inter-ministerial basis. computer language in its own right. These 591 HaIf-An--Hour Disc. MAY 11.1990 Sanskrit T.achIng & 592 Computer Assisted Leaming ProJ«;t

(prof. M.G.K. Menon) being able to sue computer for this purpose. As Indian living in this country which gave are the questions. So, for that purpose, the birth to Sanskrit with all the rich, cultural amounts required are not eleborate. We are heritage behind it as also Hs posHion, we will not spending vast sums of money on hard- certainly do everything to ensure that our wares, on institutions in terms of brick and research is contemporary in the possibility of mortar. It is really for getting these P{O- using Sanskrit as one of the major artificial grammes on. I Mluld certainly say the amount languages in relation to information technol- of this magnitude--which can be Rs. 17 ogy and computer as they develop. crores 01 As. 13 crares, I am not discussing the exact amount-is available and I think, in In regard to detailed manner in which the next Plan, we would make a major thrust should be done, I will certainly take note of towards this purpose. many other suggestions made by the han. Members and I would like to assure them What I would like to assure the han. that aU these will be given fullest considera- Members thourgh you is that our direction tion. This is a background against which the will be to ensure ihat as the world goes into point has been made and we wiil certainly information age. India can also move into it not only note down but use it for further and the information technology whiCh is vi- programmes. tal, is not s ; ",ething which would restructed to only tho~,·' who know English.1t will not be 19_08 hrs_ restricted to only a ijmited intelligential. It will be something which will be accessible and The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven available for use through our Indian lan- of the Clock on Monday, May 14. 1990; guages wherever you are in the sense of Vaisakha 24,1912 (Saka).

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