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Tuesday Volume 627 11 July 2017 No. 15 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Tuesday 11 July 2017 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2017 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 135 11 JULY 2017 136 House of Commons Oral Answers to Questions FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH OFFICE Tuesday 11 July 2017 The Secretary of State was asked— The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock Illegal Wildlife Trade PRAYERS 1. Nigel Huddleston (Mid Worcestershire) (Con): What steps his Department is taking to help tackle the illegal trade in wildlife. [900338] [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] The Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (Boris Johnson): I wish to begin by congratulating BUSINESS BEFORE QUESTIONS Iraq’s security forces on liberating Mosul from the pitiless grasp of Daesh. The flag of Iraq flies once more in the country’s second city and I pay tribute to the CITY OF LONDON (OPEN SPACES)BILL pilots of the RAF who played a vital role in supporting Ordered, this operation, delivering more airstrikes than anyone That the promoters of the City of London Corporation (Open else apart from the United States. The House can take Spaces) Bill, which originated in this House in Session 2015-16 on pride in what they have done. 22 January 2016, may have leave to proceed with the Bill in the On the illegal wildlife trade, we can be pleased with current Session according to the provisions of Standing Order the agreement that the Prime Minister helped to secure 188B (Revival of bills).—(The Chairman of Ways and Means.) at the G20 summit in Hamburg. It is about cracking down not only on the trade in charismatic megafauna, MIDDLE LEVEL BILL but on those who engage in gunrunning, people trafficking Motion made, and much other human misery, as well as illegal wildlife trafficking. We can be proud of what we are doing. That the promoters of the Middle Level Bill, which originated in this House in the previous Session on 24 January 2017, may have leave to proceed with the Bill in the current Session according Nigel Huddleston: I applaud the efforts the Government to the provisions of Standing Order 188B (Revival of bills).—(The are making in this area. I am also pleased that the UK Chairman of Ways and Means.) will host the illegal wildlife trade conference in 2018. Can the Foreign Secretary confirm how much money Hon. Members: Object. the Department has committed to tackling the illegal To be considered on Tuesday 18 July. wildlife trade and how effectively the money is being spent? NEW SOUTHGATE CEMETERY BILL [LORDS] Boris Johnson: I can confirm that we are increasing Ordered, our contribution to £26 million—another £13 million That the promoters of the New Southgate Cemetery Bill to tackle the illegal wildlife trade. I have myself seen [Lords], which originated in the House of Lords in Session what UK-financed projects are doing in Kenya to crack 2015-16 on 25 January 2016, may have leave to proceed with the down on this vile trade. Bill in the current Session according to the provisions of Standing Order 188B (Revival of bills).—(The Chairman of Ways and Means.) Vernon Coaker (Gedling) (Lab): I say to the Foreign Secretary that we simply have to give this subject a much higher priority than we do—not only our SESSIONAL RETURNS Government, but across the world. Every week or month Ordered, we see programmes on our televisions—55 African elephants are poached every day. He has to make this a That there be laid before this House Returns for Session 2016–17 of information and statistics relating to: priority. It is not good enough for us to look at our television screens and feel sorry about it—we have to have (1) Business of the House a far greater commitment to do something about it. (2) Closure of Debate, Proposal of Question and Allocation of Time (including Programme Motions) Boris Johnson: I completely share the hon. Gentleman’s (3) Sittings of the House zeal and passion. The UK has in fact been in the lead on (4) Private Bills and Private Business this for several years now, and we will continue to push (5) Public Bills the agenda, not just at the G20, as the Prime Minister (6) Delegated Legislation and Legislative Reform Orders did, but at the IWT summit that we will host in October 2018 in London. (7) European Legislation, etc (8) Grand Committees Tom Tugendhat (Tonbridge and Malling) (Con): Will (9) Panel of Chairs my right hon. Friend talk a little about his strategy on (10) Select Committees.—(The Chairman of Ways and Means.) this issue, because the link between the illegal wildlife 137 Oral Answers 11 JULY 2017 Oral Answers 138 trade, smuggling, people trafficking, and lawlessness Sir Edward Leigh: Today is the feast day of St Benedict, and violence in manycountries is extremely real? Addressing the patron saint of Europe, who famously warned about the illegal wildlife trade may seem esoteric, but it is not: “murmuring in the community” against the abbess. Will it is about the stability of many nations that are firm my right hon. Friend please proclaim that we do not partners of the United Kingdom. want any murmuring from anyone against our vision of an open, free trade Europe—the best possible free trade Boris Johnson: My hon. Friend is right: this is far deal, leading the world towards free trade and untold from esoteric. It not only touches the hearts of millions prosperity? of people in our country—as the hon. Member for Gedling (Vernon Coaker) said—but helps to cause increased Boris Johnson: My hon. Friend has made an excellent human misery. The same people are involved in trade in point. Members on both sides of the House know very drugs, arms and people, worth up to £13 billion a year, well that 80% or 85% of us were elected on a very clear and we are playing a major part in frustrating that manifesto pledge to come out of the European Union, trade. to come out of the single market and—as the leader of the Labour party has said—to come out of the customs Stuart C. McDonald (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and union as well. Nothing could be clearer than that. I Kirkintilloch East) (SNP): There is increasing evidence think that what the people of this country want us to do that the UK’s legal ivory market has been used as cover is get on and deliver a great Brexit, and I have no doubt for illegal trade.What discussions will the Foreign Secretary that, with the support of Opposition Members, we can have with colleagues about an all-out ban on the ivory achieve it. trade, as previously committed to? Mr Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) (Lab): Does the Foreign Boris Johnson: As the hon. Gentleman knows, the Secretary agree with the Chancellor and the First Secretary Government have a commitment to an all-out ban on of State that we shall need a transitional period of at the sale of ivory in this country, and that is what we least three years during which we will remain under the intend to pursue. jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice? Exiting the EU Boris Johnson: No. Neither the Chancellor nor the First Secretary of State has said any such thing. 2. Rachel Maclean (Redditch) (Con): What steps his Department is taking to help support and deliver an Several hon. Members rose— effective departure for the UK from the EU. [900339] Mr Speaker: Order. My apologies to the right hon. 14. Sir Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con): What Member for Leeds Central (Hilary Benn), who rose steps his Department is taking to help support and momentarily after his right hon. Friend the Member for deliver an effective departure for the UK from the EU. Exeter (Mr Bradshaw)—cue him being called second, [900351] but I am sure he does not mind. The Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Hilary Benn (Leeds Central) (Lab): I am grateful, Affairs (Boris Johnson): My Department continues to Mr Speaker. support EU exit negotiations, and the Government In March, the Foreign Secretary said that leaving the work to strengthen our relations with partners worldwide. EU with no deal would be perfectly okay. Last month, As a champion of free trade, we will continue to seize however, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said that that the opportunities afforded by Brexit and guarantee our would be a very, very bad outcome for Britain. Given long-term global prosperity. that the two positions are clearly completely contradictory, who should the British public believe? Rachel Maclean: Businesses in my constituency are seeking to make the most of the opportunities that Boris Johnson: I think that what the British public Brexit provides for them, but can my right hon. Friend can take from both the Chancellor and myself—and, assure me that he will work closely with the Department indeed, from the vast majority of Labour Members, as I for International Trade and the Department for Exiting understand their position—is that we all want to get on the European Union to ensure that businesses that are and do the deal, to do the best deal possible, and to already trading with the single market are helped to leave the EU. build new export markets for their goods and services around the world, to secure their continued prosperity? Mr John Baron (Basildon and Billericay) (Con): What lessons does my right hon.