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Winning Olympic gold is the dream 2010 Inducted into the Athletics of every athlete. It was a dream Kelly Hall of Fame Holmes had held since the age of 14, 2009 Named president of Commonwealth but in 2004, heading into the Games England at 34 years of age, her 2008 Founded the Dame Legacy Trust to support athletes and dream was rapidly slipping away. young people in the UK

A career punctuated by untimely 2005 Won the Laureus Award for World injuries had frustrated the British Sportswoman of the Year track star, who all too often seemed to 2005 Made Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire by be within touching distance of glory, Queen Elizabeth II for her services to only to have it cruelly snatched away. athletics 2004 Won double Olympic gold in the Despite a stress fracture before her first 800m and 1500m in Athens Olympic Games, a ruptured Achilles 2003 2nd place in the 800m at the World tendon at a World Championships and Championships in severe injury-induced depression, she 2002 Won gold in the 1550m at the had still managed two Commonwealth in and European Cup golds, an Olympic bronze and podium finishes at World 2000 Took bronze in the 800m at the Olympic Games and European Championships by the time she stepped onto the track in the 1998 2nd place in the 1500m at the Commonwealth Games in Kuala Greek capital. Lumpur Holmes was to fulfill her dream at the 1995 Took silver in the 1500m and bronze in the 800m at the World 2004 Games…twice! Winning gold in Championships in the 800m and 1500m, only the third 1994 Won gold in the 1500m at the woman ever to achieve this middle Commonwealth Games in Victoria distance double. The former army CAREER HIGHLIGHTS sergeant joined the ranks of Team GB’s greatest athletes – only the nation’s You won double Olympic Gold in the 800m and 1500m at the 2004 Olympic Games. What did it take to get you there? seventh woman to win an Olympic Athens 2004 was the first year in 7 that I hadn’t had an injury that stopped me from reaching my full potential, I think that gave me gold in . a lot of confidence and belief that my physical attributes were at their best. During my career it was extremely hard to maintain Dame Kelly’s legacy includes five such a high level of performance in terms of training without current British records and a vast breaking down; you never know where that fine line is until you cross it. In 2004 the key was to keep my body in one piece, and there amount of charity work, helping to were a number of contributing factors, including physios, doctors, nutritionists and being a bit more meticulous myself, as an athlete, mentor disadvantaged young people thinking ‘this is your last chance to do anything, you have got to do and promising youth athletes. it right.’

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Getting there, you had to deal with a lot of disappointments. How did you deal with disappointments as an athlete? The whole of my career was a rollercoaster ride – I had some really great highs and some really bad lows but, ultimately, a lot of the The doctor should disappointments actually made me stronger and tougher. A good example was my first Olympic Games, I was 26 years old. When I have knowledge and arrived in our holding camp in Tallahassee I felt a niggle and had a bruise on my leg, I went to the team doctor and had a scan which be confident and showed that I had a stress fracture. So I had arrived there in really good shape only to be told that what I thought was a bruise was professional actually a stress fracture. That was devastating and it makes you lose that pre-competition sharpness. The doctors said to me they thought I should pull out, but I had the choice to run and risk falling

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Image: Kelly Holmes competes in the women's 800 metre final during the Athens 2004 Summer Olympic Games.

over and breaking it completely or to go home. I decided that I was going to run! I ended up coming fourth in the final and was pipped on the line for a medal. So when I left those Games I was disappointed that I’d had to run at my first Olympic Games with a stress fracture and, yes, I was disappointed with fourth; but to think that I had run three rounds with a stress fracture. I was emotionally drained and in pain from injections into the bone site, but I had come fourth against the best in the world; this drove me to think ‘I can do this, I’m good enough.’ But that cycle kept being repeated, I would get up there to being among the best in the world and something would happen and stop me from going all the way, but knowing I got so close drove me.

That’s interesting, because lots of sports doctors would want to force their opinion on the athlete and say ‘I think this is what should be done and you will do this’, but you were given the options and you made the final decision. Do you think that is the best way and is it the best way for young athletes? Or do you have to be a mature Olympic athlete to be able to make that decision? Getting to a championship is the pinnacle of any year, that’s what you are training for, that’s the end point; that’s the goal. At Olympic level you train because you want to be the best. So by the time I got to an Olympic Games, I might never have got to another one it’s

a four year cycle, so I decided that it would be my choice. I would / Getty Images © Mark Dadswell regret it for the rest of my life if I hadn’t run and never made it again. If something had gone wrong, I had made that choice and taken that responsibility away from the doctor. I feel it’s right that when an athlete is at that level, you give them the options, you tell them the risks and the pros and cons – but it is their choice. Athletes have a right to decide, if I had messed it up, that would have been my fault. For young athletes, there is a necessary element of guidance as they don’t tend to think about their long-term development. In my opinion, during training periods, when competition is not so important, the advice of the doctor should take precedent, particularly if something could be detrimental to the athlete’s health or there could be long-term effects, especially with adolescents. But as an adult you have to make choices in life, particularly for work and sport effectively becomes a job for athletes.

Image right: Kelly Holmes celebrates her victory over during the women's 1500m at the 2004 IAAF Final in . Image middle: Maria de Lourdes Mutola wins gold and Kelly Holmes, silver, in the women’s 800m Final at the 9th IAAF World Athletics Championships in 2003. Image far right: Holmes runs the at the Amateur Athletics Association's meeting at , England.

168 Of course you have to trust the team you are working with – the things start to go wrong, but athletes do things that they shouldn’t physios, doctors, physiologist, coach etc. in that scenario? have been capable of. When you are an experienced athlete in race The most important thing is communication. If an athlete is very mode, a lot of it is in your head and it doesn’t matter what is going successful all of those people has had a part to play in it, but they on with your body. I therefore like a doctor who will say ‘look, there’s have to be able to communicate well to achieve that. When I was a chance that something might happen, but you are here to do a younger athlete I had scenarios where the coach would set the your best, so let’s get out there and we will manage you as well as training, while the physio advised different training to treat an possible.’ injury and the nutritionist would come in and say they weren’t considering my diet properly. If the team doesn’t communicate it What do you think the role of the team doctor should be? And can cause friction and at the end of the day the athlete just wants what advice would you give young sports doctors? to run fast and stay fit. I learned over time that my whole team The approach of the team doctor should depend on whether needed to know each other and speak to each other to become an they have been working with the team long-term or have been integrated team. A mature athlete who is at an Olympic standard assigned to that team and are new to the athletes. If you are has dedicated their life to the sport and they are relying on their part of the team and you know the athletes, you will know the team to help them achieve their goals. maintenance programme and the support you need to give. But if you are a doctor going into an environment where you don’t know Do you feel the doctor should very much have a performance- any of the athletes you need to take up a supportive role; they focused approach to dealing with the athlete? need to know you are there whenever they need you, because if Yes, I think so. Everybody in the team becomes a mentor for the you get a cold two days before you compete they are the person athlete and all that athlete wants is confidence. They want the you are going to for advice. The doctor should have knowledge people around them to have belief in them, even if it’s all going and be confident and professional, when an athlete comes to horribly wrong. You are already in turmoil as an athlete - you you; you need to have a plan of action even if it’s not a guarantee. need hope. If an athlete has hope, they will go for it. At high level You really need to be on the ball, because for the athlete, at that championships the athlete’s mentality is that they are going to go moment in time it is all or nothing and it’s devastating if it goes and do it and give it their best shot no matter what; and sometimes wrong. © Michael Steele / Getty Images Steele © Michael / Getty Images Lyons © Andy Mortimore / Allsport / Getty Images © Gray

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How did you balance health and performance issues? Apart from at your first Olympic Games, did you ever feel pressured to train or compete while ill or injured? Athletes often put pressure on themselves; you think that if you don’t train you won’t reach your goals. It’s important to understand that training isn’t just one thing, there are lots of options on how to train. I learned throughout my career that there’s no such thing as no training, you just have to train smart. If I couldn’t run because I was injured, there was no point in trying to run, because I wouldn’t recover, but I could work really hard in the pool and keep my fitness up or I could go in the gym, on the bike, on the stepper. Sometimes it worked out better that way, because it works the things that you tend to neglect as a runner, like your core stability and functional strength. I never felt pressured to train, but I knew that I could train because I had worked out other ways of doing it. I suppose you sometimes lose your way and you get scared of not training which can push the limits of your health; I suffered from anaemia, asthma, hay fever, terrible stomach pains after training, but you end up just coping with it, because you know it’s not long- term, otherwise you would have to give up on it all. I wouldn’t have been at all if I had listened to every little thing like that, but

© Graeme Robertson / Getty Images © Graeme at the same time, you have to be sensible as well.

Image top: Holmes in her hometown , , in September 2004, after winning double Olympic Gold. Image left: Dame Kelly Holmes in Qatar for the 2015 National Sports Day, giving the prize for the Men's 5km winner at Losail Circuit, Doha. Image right: Dame Kelly Holmes attends the Laureus Future Champs Project visit in 2010 in Cape Town, South Africa. © Warren Little / Getty Images Little © Warren

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Do you think your army career prepared you well to adapt your prepared me well in terms of discipline, pushing against the odds, training and cope with that pain and hardship? fighting for what you want and knowing how to train hard. As a physical training instructor in the army I did a lot of cross- training and circuit training and other exercises which kept me Do you think young athletes’ lives are too easy? And how very strong. My first four years as an international athlete I was important is it to suffer a bit to gain that extra advantage? still full-time with the military, so I was actually at my strongest If you get everything handed to you on a plate you will never know then. After leaving the army, I started having more problems with what you can really achieve. If you work hard for your success, it is fitness. As soon as I became a runner, I was doing lots of repetitions more satisfying and if things are too easy you can lose your hunger of one thing and I think I became weaker, I was doing so much less to achieve something. If you win one race or run one fast time you strength and core training. can’t switch off or act like a champion because you are only as good In terms of adapting my training, this came from my knowledge of as your last race. If you don’t replicate it you are back to where you physical training, knowing what circuits I could do, knowing how were before. I have seen many talented athletes who won one really much I could push my body. There’s a difference between feeling good race and everyone starts pampering them like they are the best it’s tough and actually working hard and I think I had the ability to thing going and it goes to their head and they don’t focus. Whereas know the level of training that I needed to be successful. The army if someone has had to struggle to achieve they will feel proud of

A mature athlete who is at an Olympic standard has dedicated their life to the sport and are relying on their team to help them achieve their goals

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Image right: Dame Kelly Holmes at , after receiving her Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire from HM The Queen Elizabeth II, in 2005. Image bottom right: Holmes in the women's 1500m at the 6th World Athletics Championships in Athens, in 1997. Image far right: Dame Kelly Holmes poses with the torch during the 2012 Olympic Torch Relay.

themselves but will also be willing to do it again. As much as my journey to being Olympic champion was hellish, I’m pleased I went through all the ups and downs because when I crossed that line in Athens it was the best feeling. I’d done it despite all of the issues.

You have done a huge amount of charity work for women and young people in sport, including mentoring young endurance athletes through your ‘On Camp with Kelly’ programme. Why is it important for women to participate in sport, particularly in the context of the Middle East? And what more can we do to help women’s participation? I don’t have much experience of the Middle East from a sporting perspective, but for women generally, I think it’s really important to feel good about yourself. If you do that then you will be a better wife, a better mother and a better person at work, more communicative and just feel good generally. I do feel that having an active, healthy lifestyle is important and potentially getting involved in sport is just a bonus. From a health perspective, it’s really nice to feel fit, you can really get a buzz out of it, but equally if you are a woman whose family life is really important, being active with your kids © Anwar Hussein Collection/ ROTA / Contributor / Getty Images is important. Equally, having a stronger body can even help with things such as preventing problems during child birth. How important is it for elite athletes to think of a career after professional sport? Do they get enough appropriate support and What do you think Jo Pavey’s achievements at the what can be done to improve that? Commonwealth Games and the European Championships last I think, certainly now, athletes should be given guidance and think year meant to her and for women in sport, especially older about what they might do when they retire. I’ve been through women in sport? it myself and also been involved with many athletes who have What Jo Pavey did over those two weeks, winning bronze in the retired and are now working with my Trust. A lot of them find it 5000m at the Commonwealth Games, then gold in the 10,000m at extremely hard to end a 10, 12, 15-year career, that has been their the European Championships is just the biggest inspiration women focus, has been who they are, has driven them to everything they can have, for various reasons. She was 40 years old at the time and have achieved. For that to come to an end is very hard to deal with. had given birth to her second child only 10 months prior! She is The very top athletes might have so many other opportunities open another athlete who always seemed to have had a problem or injury to them that they don’t have to think about it, but let’s face it 99% holding her back and may have never fulfilled her potential; she of athletes won’t have that opportunity. As a full-time athlete, you could have easily given up many times. But she has been committed don’t think about what happens after that. Your focus is on the for years and to see somebody who has that resolve winning and here and now. Personally, I never once thought past my dream of enjoying her sport is great. She was a talented junior athlete, she becoming Olympic champion, I never thought about retiring, so gave up athletics and went travelling for a year with her husband when I came to the end of my career and people said ‘I assume and came back in 1997 and came fourth in the 1500m race in which you’re retiring now?’ I didn’t really know what I was going to do. I broke the British record. That’s how we became friends; she is one The English Institute of Sport have set up a strategy to start helping of the nicest people you will ever meet. She has a natural ability and with career development so some of the younger athletes and lower trains and runs very hard. To see her do that at the end of her career tier athletes are getting advice, but when they then move up to that is inspirational to everyone, including me. top level, that advice often goes out of the window. I would like

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to see support from the time you retire for perhaps 6 months to a year afterwards with a rehabilitation-type package. In the armed forces when you leave you get a year of support when you can go on courses to help you reintegrate. They should do something similar with elites sportspeople; they invest so much in getting them to the top and they want them to represent their country and bring glory, but after that there is very little else. I would like to see them help people transition at the end of their career and that is part of the reason I started my trust.

Eating disorders are an increasing problem among young female, and in fact male, athletes. What is your advice on eating healthily and weight management for young athletes? It comes down to energy availability. When you are pushing your body you need to have the energy available to do it and think about the recovery mechanisms. I think sometimes the nutrition advice can become slightly more advanced than necessary for the level of the athlete. Most athletes just want to know what they need to do to have enough fuel in their body to push themselves to their limits when they are training and preparing; also which are the best foods to aid recovery, and when and why do they need to eat them? All © Jan Kruger / Stringer / Getty Images

athletes know they have to eat well and drink enough fluids but sometimes you don’t know if you are really doing it right. That is where the guidance and personalised advice is needed. In terms of eating disorders, I have done a lot work around the female athlete triad, relating to energy availability and bone health. For those young female athletes it is often about lifestyle. Situations can create peer pressure and peer groups will often contain some members who are very sporty and some who aren’t, if you are a young person with a sporting talent you have to try and balance that. You can find yourself neglecting your athlete side in order to fit in, which is detrimental when you go back to training. It’s a tough situation and I’m not sure if anyone can actually resolve it, but we can certainly give really good advice and emphasise the link between health and performance. So often during the cross-country season, there are a couple of girls who fly around the track because they have lost so much weight. Everybody looks at them and thinks they are great, but 5 months later in the summer season they are nowhere to be seen, because they have broken down; you can’t sustain that through the heavy winter training period if you aren’t thinking about your food and health. © Bob Thomas / Getty Images © Bob Thomas Paul Dijkstra, M.D.

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