Eig~~~_Series, Vol. V No. 39 WedDesday~ May 8. 1985 Vaisakha 18. 1907 (Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES.. (English Version)
Second Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
(Vol. V contains Nos. 31 10 40)
L()K SAUHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI
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COLUMNS
Oral Answers to Questions:
*Starred Questions Nos. 7S0 to 755 1-31
Wti tten Answers to QuestioDS :
Starred Questions Nos. 156 to 770 ... 32-49 Unstarred Questions Nos. : SS42 to 5620. 5622 10 5778 ... 49-270 Papers laid on tbe Table ... 271·276
Calling Attention to Metter of Urgct Public Importance- 276
Reported supply of maps of sensitive and restricted areas in Kerala and Indo-Burma border by some Don-official agencies to some foreign agencies witbout obtainiDI prior clearance
Shri Indraji t Gupta 276 Shri S.B. Chavan 376 Shri lai Parkash Asarwal ... 283 Shri Zainul Basber 296 Shri NarayaD Choubey ... 30J Matters under rule 377
(i) Need to constitute a Commission and take other effective steps to remove the lI'iovaaces of small regional now-papers
Shri K'..N. Pradban ••• 306
(ii) Need to initiate necessary measures to stop UD authorised reproduction of books of Indian authors in Baglades Shrimati Geeta Mukherjeo ... 307
',,' .The sigo+marked above the name of·. Member indicates tbat the question was actually asked on the floor of tbo HoUlO by that Member. COLUMNS
(iii) Need to instal a Radio transmi tter in Ayodhya, Uttar Pradesh
Shri NirmaJ Khatri 307
(iv) Need for a new railway line to link Chamrajnagar with Mettupalyam
Shri V. Srecnivasa Prasad ... 308 (v) Need to upgrade the Khanpur Ahir Flag Station in Rajasthan 8S fuUfledged Railway Station
Shri Ram Singh Yadav ... 309 (vi) Need to review tbe decision fo disband tbe O.N.G.C. Regional Office at Madras
Shri K. Ramamurthy ... 309
(vii) Need to publish Gurudev Tagore's Works in aU reaional languages to promote national integration
Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munsi 310
(viii) Need to take steps (or regular suppJy of improved quality of essential cammodities in Car Nicobar
Shri Ajit Kumar Saba ... 311
(ix) Need to exempt marblo from tbe levy of excise duty which has resulted in closure of small marble units RajasthaD
Prof. Nirmala Kumari Sbaktawat ... 312
Finance Bill. 1985- ... 314-40(;
Motion to Consider (Not concluded)
Sbri Visbw8n8th Pratap SiDlb .t. 314 Sbri C. Madha v Rcddi ' .. 319 Shri DiDesh Singh ••• 329 Shrl R.am Sinab Yadav ••• 336 Shri V.5-. Vijayarasha van ... 342 Sbri Ami! Da na ••• 346 ('Ill
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Sbri Nohaabbai Patel ••• 358 Shri Raj Kumar Rai ••• 362
Shri G.L. Doara ••• 36S
Sbri P. Selvendra ••• 370
Shri Girdbarl Lal Vyas ••• '74
Shri Yoaeabwar' Praad ••• 379
Prof. NaralD Chand P.ruhar ••• 384
Dr. P. Vallal Peruman ••• 392
Sbri Ram Pujan PateJ ••• 3M' Sbri Um. lCaDt Milhra ... 399 LOK SABRA DEBATES
LOKSABHA [English) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TBB MINISTRY OP ENVIRONMENT AND RVednejday, Alay, 8, 198'1 FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (8) aDd (b). Stales have been advised about suitabJe Va;,akha 18, 1907 (Saka) structures. activities and prosrammea for environmental management. As tho Departments of Environment have recent" been. set up, it is too early to make a review The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of of t'heir activities. the Clock (c) The Government has already crea [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] ted a separate Ministry of Environment" Forests for better coordination of tbe [Trons/at Ion) schemes in both the departments. How .. ever. there is no proposal to merge the two MR. SPEAKER: We are starting with Departments. a very mild temper today. (Translalion] Shrimati Chandra Bhanu Devi. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU DSVI: [English) Mr. Speaker, Sir, it has been stated in the annual report of the Department of SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : Good Environment for the year 1984-8.5 that the start, Sir. industries in Gujart, Karnataka and Mahara- . stra have done a Commendable job in MR. SPEAKER: WeIJ begun is half controlling industrial pollution in com· done. parison to other states. I would like to ask the hon. Minister whether the Central Government would issue special direction to ORAL ANSWERS TO QUEST[ONS other States also to take concrete I!Iteps In this regard ? (Translation] SHRI VIR SEN: Mr. Speaker, Sir aU .. Review of State Government Activities the states have been issued directives that they should forn ulate their schemes rcgard In the Field of Environment" ing envirC!lftment and when these scheme. are forwarded to us, we review them. *750. PROP. CHANDRA BHANU nEVI : Win the PRIME MINISTER be PROF. CHANDRA BHANU nEVI: pleased to sta te : I would aJso like to ask the hOD. Minister if the Central Go~ernmeDt have (8) whether Union Government are formulated any time bound programme to r~viewing the activites of various State have an effective control on increasing Governments in the field of environment : po1)ution in metropolitan cities? If so what are the main features of the programme' (b) if so, the broad details thereof; and SHRI VIR SEN: Sir, The Pollution (c) whether Government propose to Centra) Boards of all the states bave beeD mcrae the Departments of Environment given this direction that they should for and Forests with a view to have a unified mulate the schemes and when the schemes authority for 8 better coordination of the are received by us, the Board would review ,~bem~s iQ ~be flel4 of eQvironment 1 lilem ~nd we would ta~e action on them, s Oral ,,4111"'" MAY 8,198S
(B'II.rII",) i •.,iviDg to them 80 tbat they can become effective? The Minister has not replied to SHRl EDUARDO FALBIRO: Mr. tbis question. Or is it that you also do Speaker Sir, tbis is one of the examples of Qot want them to become effective? tbe lap that v~ry often exists between the philosophy and the commitments of tbe MR. SPBAKER: And do you want. Government of India and tbe level of separate Ministries in tbe States also? implementation by the State Governments. Now we are having a Ministry of Bnviron SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Separ ment for several years at the Government ate Ministries or there should be separate of India ts Jevel. But is it Dot a fact tbat departlments. If they are not there, tbey there are several major States like Maha should be directly under the Central rashtra which up to now not even have a Government. They have no money. What Department of Environment? And where are you doio8 about it ? the Departments of Environment do exist, they are not functioning and one of the SHRI VIR SEN: On this question, of major reasons for their not functioning is course, we win request the State Govern lack of funds. I would like to know which ments to look to their demands also. are the States which up to tbe moment do not have a Department of Environment PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I and what steps the Government have taken am going to ask a question that has become to increase the financial assistance to the highly explosive and controversial today. Departments of Environment in the States, Environment is connected with pollution. and secondly, now at tbe Centre we have It is connected with congestion in various a very well carved out Department of States. Environment. They have merged the Ministry of Environment and the Ministry MR. SPEAKER: I know that you will of Forest but tbjs is not being implemen be doing this. ted. I would like to know wby tbis ' is not PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB being done at the State Government level Congestion in cities is connected with also. What is tbe dialogue you are having environment. If the congestion in cities with the State Governments so that wha t is to be avoided, in that case various areas you are doing at the Centre namely having bave to be deveJoped and regional econo-' one Ministry for Environment and Forests mic imbalances have to be removed and iI ,110 done at the level of tbe State Bombay hinterland has to be developed. Governments. Instead of that the Government is thintin. of a very wrona and irrational path of SHRI VIR SEN: The pollution control banning influx of population in any measures have to be implemented by the city whether it is Bombay or Cal. St~te Governments. The Central Govern cutta. And jf tbat is done, as has been ment can give only instructions and advices. indicated by the Chief Minister of Maha The implementation part rests with the rasbtra in his Press conference yesterday. State Governments. it will mean the violation of Article 19 of the Constitution, which says all citizens As far as the question regardins how sha)) have tbe right to move freely throub. many States have set up departments, I out tbe territory of India. Therefore. will may inform' the House that four States the MiDister give an assurance tba t such have a division each under some other an irrational measure of decongestion will department and fourteen States and one not be followed, but they wiiJ have an Union territory have set up Department of economic balance in different regioDS so Bnvironment. Five States and two Union that nobody will take such an irrational Territories have got separate divisions. attitude of bannins any city for any popula So, in this manner. of course, aU the States tion in the country? are establishina their own departments. PROP. K.K. TEWARI The SHRI EDUARDO PALEIRO: What atmosphere is souabt to be polJuted by iQ aboQt. tbe financial assistance the Centro duction of politics. I ~ '.. ." 1 5 VAISAKHA 18, J907 (s,4rA) Oral.4lUwe'4 6
PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Thomas. No. Sir. I am very serious about it •.
MR. SPEAKER: He listed it so that Bombay couJd, just come in. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS; Sir, what I want to ask, is that in Kerala the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I forest land is being assigned by the Govern am further add that Prof. Ranga is support ment for the occupants who are there iDa my question. iHega JJy in the forest area for some time on one pretext or the other. This SHRI VIR SEN: I think there can be has ended in deforestation of a vast area. I DO restriction of any citizen going to any would like to ask tbe ltfinister whether tbe cosmopolitan city. Anybody can go there C~ntral Government will take steps to and reside there if there is proper avoid this because this has been going on accommodation. for a long period in Kerala where there As rar as congestion is concerned, the was good forest land which is now com Mabarashtra Chief Minister, of course, pJetely destroyed. This has a ISO caused has taken a decision some time back to environmental difficulties there. Even tbe increase the floor space index and there Silent VaHey which was declared as a are some objections about it. That is national park by the Central Oovernment being considered. in the Western Ohats, is being destroyed and this has happened because a section of THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAJIV the people went to live there and en GANDHI) : Because it is a very impor,ant croached tha t area wi th the support of the subject raised by Prof. Dandavate, I may Gov~rnment there. add 8 word. There can be no question of such restrictions. (Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: You might be remem SHRI A. CHARLES : No support bas bering we had a question. been given by the Government. In fact. they have also taken timely action wherever PROF. MADHU DANDAVAVTE there are encroachments. So, tbe Member No restriction of people coming and no should withdraw his remarks. people will be driven out also. Both. (Inte,rujJtlons) MR. SPEAKER: Now, we can have satellite towns. MR. SPEAKER : The Minister will refute it. SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: I would like to clarify. There will be no restrictions PROF. P.J. KURIEN : Sir, this is a on coming in and no restriction on going Question Hour. He cannot make an allega out. tion. He cannot ask such things. (Interruptions). This is 'a Question Hour. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : But, So, that should not go on record. He Sir. anti-defection Bill has already been should withdraw it. passed. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You might be re membering the question once put on the MR. SPEAKER : You just pu.t a tloor of this House, and I just said under question,. tbe Constitution it cannot be. That is what we did at tbat time and I think the SHRI THAMf'AN THOMAS: ~ir. whole House is a ware of it. there- was' an iOltance when the. Oreli .... prohibiting deforestation was 'Iapeed ,aad' (Int~rru]Jtlon') DO new Ordinance. wu. broqht in whicb MR. SPEAKER: Now we have done enabled PerSons to continue defores·tafioD~ it. There is DO question of any more of tbis alld we do not know what it is. (lnte,.,up,ionl) ; ()roi Anlwtts MAY 8, 1985
MR. SPEAKER: Are there any asper 'misinformed about the lapsing of tbe Act. sions on anybody ? I am told that the Act was not allowed to lapse and an Ordinance was issued (lnttrrupt;ons) some time before it couJd lapse. I think two or three days before but there was MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Thomas, you no gap between the old Act and the new just ask the question. Otherwise I will Act coming in. (Interruptions) I have can it irrelevant. not finished yet. (Interrupllons)- - Sir, the Member bas raised a very MR. SPEAKER: The Minister in vital question as to what the Centre can charge will refute. Wba t are you doing? or cannot do with the forests in a partie Is it going 00 record ? cular State. There are certain historical problems regarding this question which we (Interruptions) must tackle in this House at some stage. Originally, forests were for exploiting. MR. SPEAKER: I am to record every They were a wealth to be harvested. On tbing, but I will also see that nothing as top of tha t, there is a tremendous popula. aspersion goe~ on, but the Minister is tion pressure on land and the result is there to refute. If there is anything we that forests have diminished very sub will take note of it. Please sit down, stantially. The political pressures in tbe there is no allegation. States, in the districts, in the blocks. are (Interrupt;ons) invariably much higher than they are here. at the Centre. So, there are certain deci SHRI THOMPAN THOMAS : Will sions we can take at the Centre which are tbe Central Government take action in very difficult to take at the lower levels. this matter for safeguarding the forests in the particular locality. Uufortunately, in Kerala which were being destroyed with we do not have enough jurisdiction over the support of the Government? this to actually tak~ action. I would like (Interruptions) that this subject is debated sometimes and we come to a conclusion on how the PROF. N.O. RANGA: How can he problem is to be handled because the say 'with the support of the Government"? dangers of the depletion of forest wealtb are very great and are going to do untold SHRI A. CHARLES: No government harm to the couo try. is allowing it, Sir.
(In Ie rruptlon.l) (lntl'rruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: It is his view. But MR. SPEAKER: That is aJl now. I the Minister's view might be different. think, 15 minutes have passed 00 this (Interruptions) Question.
MR. SPEAKER : PJease sit down. Steps to Atrract Tourists to Andbra Pradesh SHRI RAlIV GANDHI; Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think tbe hon. Member is totally *751. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES· misinformed. The forest~ in KeraJa are WARA RAO : Will the Minister of tourism not being destroyed by the support of the and Civil Aviation be pJe.ased to stafle Government. the steps taken by Government to attract PROF. N.G. RANOA: That is why more tourists to the historically impottant I took objection. He should not have said places like KondapaJly near Vijayawada. tbat. Amaravatbi. Nagarjunasagar, Golconda Fort, Fatakoama Palace and other places SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: He is also in and around Hyderabad city in ADdhra Pradesh '1 ~!Not recorded. VAISA:KHA 18. 1901 (sAi.4) O,.al A.nlWIII'I 10
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE State Government for the celebration 'of MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL Golconda Festival held in February, 1985 A VIA TION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) :. which is celebrated annually at the Golco.ada A statement is laid on the Table of the Tombs. House. The State Government operates weekly Statement conducted tours from Hyderabad to The Department in consultation with Nagarjunasagar. There is also a launch tbe State Government had identified a num service for tourists from Nagarjunas8gar ber of centres of tourist importance in the to visi t Nagarjunakonda. Another fast State for phased dev¢]opment with the launch 'Zaria' is operated from Nagarjuna combined resources of the Centre, the sagar up to Srisailam for tourists on the State and the Private sector. The centres river Krishna. Dai Iy conducted tours mentioned by the Member Le. Vijayawada. are also operated by tbe State Govern Hyderabad, Nagarjunasagar and Amaravtbi ment in and around HYderabad city. are among these centres. Kondapally is near Vijayawada, and Golconda Fort and At present, there is no proposal with Falaknama Palace are in Hyderabad. The the Centre or the Sta te Department of Department of Tourism has requested the Tourism to develop Kondapally near Slate Government foc submitting tourism Vijaya wada. infrastructure development schemes in these centres for financial assistance. At Nagarjunasagar, a cluster of tourist guest houses is available and tbe State The Department of Tour ism brings out Government proposes to further develop tourist pUblici ly Ii tera tuce in Hindi, it as.a Buddh st centre during the 7th Plan English and several foreign languages on by providing a meditation pavilion, land various tourists centres in Ind ia including scaping aDd gardells etc. The State Andhra Pradesh to publicise the places Government also has plans to provide of archaeJogicaJ. historical, cultural and touri&ts facilities at Golconda. Tho reJigious importance. This )j tera ture is Falakunma palace is a private property. widely distributed free of cost through the However, efforts are being made by the Government of India Tourists Offices in State Government to convince the owners India aDd abroad. The Department has to open it for tourists. brought out a number of brochures which pUblicise the places of tourists in Andhra SHRI V. SOBHANDREESWARA Pradesh mentioned by th~ Hon'ble RAO : Sir, I am happy tha t several steps Member. are being taleen for development of tourism in the pJaces mentioned by me. I would The Department of Tourism also pro like to know from the Minister this because duces documentary films on places of KondapaJJy is a very important centre and interests in India in which Andhra known for handicrafts and toys, namely Pradesh's historical monuments, art and KondapaJJy toys which will earn precious culture has also been depicteo' and these foreign exchange. Will the Government are shown to foreign Tour Operators and consider to develop Kondapally as a tourist Travel Writers by our overseas offices. centre and take necessary steps for coos 10 1983·84, the Department opened a truction of a tourist hotel at Vijayawada Government of India Tourist Office at the and also necessary steps (or operation of Jeve) of "a manager at Hyderabad. In fast launch services in the river Krishna to , 1984.85, the Department of Tourism invited take tourists from Vijayawada to Amara 10 Belgian Travel Agents on a familiari va thi which is a very famous Buddhist "satioo tour of India including Hyderabad. centre and to Nagarjunasagar ? 5 Trave"l Writers from U.K. and U.S A. were al'so invited to visired Hyderabad. [Translalio r.]
,The Department of Tourism provided SHRI ASHOK GBHLOT: The bJD. financial assistance of Rs. 50,000/- to the Member has expressed bis happiness over it bral IfnlWers
tho steps taken by Government. I am bappy would like to tell him that we bad invited too. We have dODe a lot of work: in about ten travel Slents (rom Beljium last o Aodbra Pradesh ... year. Five travel-writers from U.S.A. and U.K. had also come. whom we had sent to MR. SPEAKER: Have you ever been Hyderabad. In addition we have 80t a to Kondapally ? list which contains names of publicity materjal as also exclusive literature about SHRf ASHOK GEHLOT: I have not Andhra Pradesh. If you like, I would visited the place yet. read them out, otherwise I would inform you separately. At present, I do not have MR. SPEAKER: First of all, both information about Mehboob Bhawan. If aad the hone Minister and myself should you write to us, we would get it examined. be taken there. First, the place should be showa to us, then we would make our SHRI OW AISI : Many tourists (rom recommenda tions ! outside the country visit these buildiolS and tourists specially (rom the Arab SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT: You have countries visit such buildings and when referred to Kondapally and have also thrown tbey visit the mosques, they find tbat a some light on its importance. I welcome notice board is put up there that nobody the suggestion of the hon. Member. There can offer 'Namaz' tbere. It is baving a is no proposal under consideration regar very bad effect and it is bringing a bad ding Kondapally among the proposals sent name to the entire country. Why should to us by ,the State Government. If the you put up such restriction there tbat State Government send us any such proposal nobody should offer 'Namaz'. Let there · we would consider it sympathetically and be no restriction. Ooe who wants to offer · try to develop a tourist centre there.. So 'Namaz', may be allowed to do so and one · far as operation of launch services in who does not want to offer may not do so. Krishna river up to Amaravathi is The restriction is bringing a bad name to concerned, we would not have any objection our country. to cansidering much a proposal if it is rent to us. SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT: I do not know which place the hon. Member is lEngli~h) referring to. SHRI V. SOBHANDREESWARA MR. SPEAKER: He might be referring RAO : In the statement given by the to old palaces · Minister, he has said that the Department of Tourism produces documentary films on SHRI OWAISI: I am referring to places of interest in India in which Andhra Hyderabad and aIJ other places which the Pradesh historical monuments are also tourists visit. It is happening in Delhi depicted. I would like to know from the also and all other places and it is bringing hOD. Minister how many suoh documents a bad name to our country. were. prepared pertaining to Andhra's his torical monuments, art and culture? Will SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: The maio 'tbe Government· take necessary steps for question relates to Andbra Pradesh and . taking over of Mehaboob Mansion which this question does not arise out of it. We is very beautiful building with architectural have gone there many times and found thai as well as historical importance? That these buildings are in a very dilapidated building is being decayed in the city of condition and are very old structures. If · Hyderabad. Will the Government take a large number of people would 80 inside Decessary steps for taking over of tha t them, their condition may deteriorate and building and keeping it under the Archaeo these buildings may collapse. In other logical Survey of India? countries also, in tbe Arab countries and [TrQn~/allon] IsJamic countries, there are such buUdin,s which are very old aod offering of Namaz SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT: You have in those buildings is prohibited. It is Dot asked about the documentt ry films. For only in India that there is such a restriction . tbe information of the hon. Member t I but in other countries as well • VAISAltRAla.' It07 (SAKA)
'SHRI OWAISI : These buildings arc develop there ooly when there is a pro at pl'aeel which are very far off and nobody gramme of orga'nised groups that are takeD' aoes there and if anybody loes there and to Andhra Pradesh. wanlS to offer 'Namaz' there, he should be .)Jows to do so, because, such a restriction Would it be possible for Air India is bringing a bad name to tbe country_ and the Tourism Development Council to organise groups? [English) So far, the groups ·are only trave)Uo, SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Prom in the North. They come to Delhi, A,ra, Jaipur, and NagarjullaSagar to Srisailam Sagar of the Benaras onwards. entire Krishna river, there is a launch Would it be possible to organise tour service and the launch by name 'Zariya' that takes them to the South and then they purcbased from Soviet Russia is now in can have the exit point in Madras? operation. This river tour is unique in its kind. ' In the whole of India, there is PROF. N.G. RANOA : It is a good no such service. The entire launch service suggestion. goes in the river valley from one Sagar to another Sagar. Unfortunately, this picture [Translation] sque and beautiful spot has not been SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT : The tourists brought to the tourist map. No docu who come from outside the country, have mentary bas been prepared. The entire their tour programmes preplaooed. The area can be converted into a virtua I tra\oel agents formulate prior programmes 'DisneY land.' But unfortunately this has to bring them here and according to tbe not been brought to the tourist map and programme, the tourists are go to no documentary bas been prepared. No Andhra Pradesh and the South. film has been prepared. [English) Will the Government take Mteps to see that this is brought into the tourist map Economic Uplirtment or Tribals Through a.nd a Iso a film is shown on tha t '1 Forestry Programmes
THB PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAJIV *752 SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : GANDHI) : The tourism development pro .. WiJl the PRIME MINISTER be pleased arammes are presented by tbe State to us to state : aod tben we Jook in to them to see wha t we can do. I be Jieve there are no plans (a) whether the Committee on Forestry at the mornen t pending from Andhra Programmes for alleviation of poverfy has Pradesh. submi tted its report;
Regarding making it into a 'Disney (b) if so, the main recommendatioDs Land' , I be I ieve the whole of Andhra concerning different aspects of 'tribal Pradesh is being made into a make-believe economic upliftment through the forestr, world! programmes; Cc) whether his Ministry bas discussed SHR.I E. AYYAPA. REDDY: This with the concerned Ministries/Departments is a 6Disney Land· where starvation has and the States on the basis of these re been banished and people are able to pur commendations and prepared schemes and chase rice at Rs. 2/- per Kg. programmes during the Seventh Five Year PIan; and SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO : This dream should be converted in (d) if so, the details tbereof ? to a reality ! THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI DINEH SINOH: There are MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND many important places of tourist interest FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) Yel, iQ Audhra Pradesh and tourism wi U Sir" 15 MAY 8. ,In, 16r
(b) Statement-I containing tbe maio designinl. marketiDI etc. and be rocommendatioDs is laid OD the Table of provided raw material &; camping tbe House. facilitjes.
(c) Discussions have been held 00 the 1.10. Tree-leaf fodder & pasture should basis of these recommendations and pro be developed. posals drawn up for the Seventh Five Year Plan. 1.11. Tribals should be involved in scientific management of trees on (d) Statement-II containing the list of their land and returns to them be draft proposals proposed for inclusion in maximised. tbe VII Plan is placed on the Table of the House. The Seventh Plan has not yet 2. Financial been finalised. 2.1. Adequate funds should be provide Statement·} for raising plantations, conversion of shifting cultivation to settled Main Recommendations of the Committee cultivation, elimination of poverty on Fore~try Programm~s for Allevia through cottage' industries, tion of Poverty development of forest villages, colJection, processing and market· 1. Identification of beneficiary scheme ~ ing of minor forest produce in the Forestry Sector, Rura J Develop 1.1. Contractors should be eliminated ment Department etc. Foreign from all forestry operations. aid should also be used. 1.2. Massive a fforesta tion sbould be 2.2. NABARD should support social taken up through Individual Bene forestry projects. ficiary Schemes. 3. Organisational Changes: 1.3. People's movement should be created in favour of Social 3.1. Department of Forestry should be Forestry. created at t he Centre.
1.4. PeopJe should be Jed to evolve 3.2. Establishm~nt of Indian Council of loca tion-specific agro-forestry Forestry Research and Educa tion. techniques. 3.3. Department of Forestry should be 1.5. (a) Production, processing, storage created in each State. marketing etc. of minor forest produce shouJd be developed. 3.4. Existing Central Forestry Commi ssion should be upgraded as a I.S. (b) Employment generation of National Forest Commission. 2S million standard person years 3.S. Forest Research Institute, DehraduQ shouJd be aimed at. should be made 8. National Forest Research University. 1.6. Forest-based cottage industries should be promoted. 3.6. A National Forest Produce Cor 1.7. Sh:fting cultivators should be in . poratioD should be created at tbe duced to take up settled cultiva Central Government level.
tioll of crops like rubber t coffee Statemeot-II etc. in situ. Main Schemes Hsted in the draft 1.8. Forest Villagers ~hould be given Seventh Five Year Plan for tbe Forestry loans etc. to develop by growing Sector are :- food and animal protein. 1. Proper Land use tbrou,h Tre,~ 1.9. Artisans should be trJ\ined iQ ,fat:mini· VAISAUIA,~" 1907 (S,fJCJf) II,,, 17 , .. ~,_,,",.,,;, I ',.
2. Social Security through Plantations.. back, but .due to lack of impJcmeDtatioD of the schemes, tbe economic uplJftment of 3. Plantation for Tassar Cocoons. the tribaJs based on forests bas Dot yet" 4. Imparting Training to improve taken place. I want to know whether it Skills and Crafts. ia a fact tba t tbe infrastructure required (or implementation of any programme incJudia, ~. Development of Forest-based Cottage this programmes is: interpretation of Industries. scheme, the identification of the programme. the implications of the scheme on the tri 6. Minor Forest Produce D:velop bals. impact on the tribals if the scbeme is ment Corporation in the States and extended to tbose areas and involvement ot at the Centre. the tribals which is important in forestry proarammes, I want to know whether this 7. Plantation of Minor Forest Produce mental infrastructure which is a component Species including Medicinal Plants. of the mind wi)) be implemented and jf so ' In. what way. 8. Lac cultivation. SHRI VIR SEN: The hon. Member SHRI OIRIDHAR GOMANGO : This has asked a few questions .... Question is a basic policy question because it concerns two things: the economic aspect of the tribals and the ecological aspect of MR. SPEAKER: You answer to only forests. I would like to know whether the one. He is entitled to only one supple.. Government has accepted these recommen mentary and you can answer whichever dations in full. The Minister bas indicated question you like. in the statement a list of draft proposals proposed for inclusion in the Seventh Plan. SHRI VIR SEN: As far as sbifting culti~ tbe only inlportant thing there is tbe Minor vation is concerned. we have given instruc Forest Produce Development Corporation tions and directions that. as far as possible. which bas been proposed. it bas not yet been tbey should be induced to take up settled tiDally announced. Keeping these tbinss in cultivation. It is recommended in thi. view, I would like to know how tbe report also that efforts should be made to Government propose to eradicate the draw see that the tribals beain to cultivate at a backs in the forest policy, whether the particular place, they should setUe at ODe Government is going to announce a new place. It is also suggested tbat plantatioDl forest policy by which the impediments in like rubber plantation and tea or coffee the implementation of the schemes wil1 be plantation should be resorted to in tboac areas where jbuming cultivation i. removed. aoing on. SHRI VIR SEN : As far as the recom mendations are concerned, it is clear that SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANOO: My some of the recommendations have been question was about implementation. accepted and we are acting upon them. The second question is about the Minor SHRI VIR SEN: As rar 8S implo Foroat Produce Development Corporation. mentation is concerned, it will have to be This is also under considera tiOD and it will dODe by tbe State Government. We CID be established in due course of time. The on)y, as I have already said, give directiona tbird question is about the neW forest and advice to the State Government, and poJicy. The new forest policy is also under it is for the State Government to act upon consideratioD, and I hope that, in a very them. short time, it will be placed before tho House .. SHRI ANAND GAJAPATHI RAW ~ !be upliftmeDt of tbe tribal. is a verI SHR.I GIR.IDHAR GOMANGO: Important programme. Also the ,c;nori:J Apar I from this rC(:ommenda tion. there arc fcelina that loes is that the programm. a number of other recommendations on that are implemented for tribal. are b.il~ Ihiflina cultivation, encroachment in forest caU), implemented for tbe entrepreneuta) are •• , eto, Tbeso were ft~Ornm~nd~ 100, , ••b~r tbap fOJ the ~eople wJl9 )Yolk, 19f OrtllMnHr. MAY'8, ita, OrQ/~IWI" 20 .
tbe people who 10 round doing poilu culti. bQusebuildini loans but they cannot cons- vatioD, wbo arc always on the move. . truct the house because they are not Becaule these tribals are aJways on tbe aIJowed even to cut the tree which they move and tbey are not used to be eD tre have planted. A very strict enforcemen t prcneuls. imaainativc programmes have to of tbe Fortts t Conserva tion Act is there in be devised so tbat they could be brought my State of Kerala. Therefore, I would into tbe economic mainstream. Secondly, like to know whether the Minister has their culture and orientation should also received such complaints and jf so, what 'be taken into consideration. Because action he would take to ensure that the hundreds of crores of rupees have been strict enforcement of the Forest Conser spent on tbis programme, will the Minister vation Act does Dot stand in tbe way of devise something which is more innovative the development of the tribals. and which dovetails with the economic operations of tbe tribals ? SHRI VIR SEN: No such complaint has been received by me. If any such SHRI VIR SEN: The Forestry complaint is received, we wilJ look into it. Committee for eradication of poverty has liven a number of suggestions and we are PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Take this as a taking into consideration those suggestions complaint and then answer. and will be actiog upon them. SHRI VIR SEN: We wi)] look into it. SHRI ARVIND NETAM; Between 50 :to 80 per cent income of the tribals PROF. P.J. KURIEN : I have visited comel form forests. In the Sixth Plan a number of colonies in my constituency. as well as, the Seventh Plan one of tbe They have told me this problem. objective is the eradication of poverty SHRI VIR SEN: There are certain amonlst the tribals. There is 100 to 300 restrictions under the Forest Conservation per cent difference in tbe prices of minor Act where it is necessary for the State fotest produce at which the tribals are Government to corne to the Centre for u actually selling and the prices at which no-objection certificate. Wben this ques they are sold in the market. So \\ ill the tion comes, we will consider it. At present GOvernment take necessary steps to reduce we have received no complaints and jf this gap in the prices of minor forest pro .. any such complaints are received, we wiJl .!uce and assure the tribals remunerative look into them. prices for their minor forest produce? This ODe item will create a lot of impact SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: You on the eradication of poverty. It 'wiJl also know, Sir, there are tribal people who are help in two aspects-one is conservation livins in tbe forests and their culture and of foresta and tbe pressure on land wi)) traditions and even their economy fuJJy a]so be reduced. depends upon the rorests. And according SHRI VIR SEN : A Minor Forest to the Central guidelines, during 1984-85, Produce Corporation is being proposed 16.19 per cent of the outlay on forestry and it will look after every aspect of this in States sector was earmarked for the problem. Buying, collection and market.. tribals. Is it a fact that there are some allegations that some did not imple iDI-everyaspect will be looked after by States tbis corporation. ment this. directive ... particularly Bihar State? May I know what positive steps have been taken against those States who PROF. P.J. KURIEN: There are a have not followed the Central directive? Dumber of Girijan colonies in my consti .. tueDcy. When I visit, almost in every SHRI VIR SEN : The Central Govern colony there is a complaint that these ment has no authority to take any action. Girijans and tribals cannot avail of the lacilities siven by the Government because SHRI AMAR ROVPRADHAN: But of the very strict enforcement of the there is a directive. FQrest Conservation Act by tbe Govern meat, Tbat is to say. tbey are given SHit I VIR. SEN : Dire9Uves, of cO\lrse, r t ~ ,., VAI8AKrHA 18, 1901 (SAX.4)
can be issued but it depends 0.0 the perSOD know whether it is a fact that OD this receiving the directive whether he imple very subject villagers of the area submit&od ments it or Dot. a petitions committee of Rajya Sabba iD 1983 ? What were the recommendations of [Tran.slatlon] the Petitions Committee? What aedan bas "Closure of Mussoorie Lime Mines for the Government taken so far OD those recommendations? Environment Protection" SHRI VIR SEN : Sir. I require a *753. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY : Wi)) the fresh notice to answer this supplementary. PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state:
(a) whether Government propose to saRI PIYUS TIRAKY : Sir. the close the sixtyone lime mines of Mussoorie petition was filed before the PetitioDs hills permanently for protection of Committee. environment; MR.. SPEAKER: He migbt bave to (b) if so, by what time; and find out the details.
(c) if not, the reasons therefor '1 SHRI PIYUS TIR AKY : As a result of the 27 mines having been closed how [English] many workers were rendered jobless aDd THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE what alternate employment has been given MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND to them? If not. why not ? . FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) After a detailed consideration of the environ SHRI VIR SEN: Sir, the decision of mental and socio-economic impact of the the Supreme Court has been there recently limestone mining operations in Mussorie and. I think, 'this particularly relates to the Hills, the Supreme Court has ordered Labour Department. that- SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY Sir, I am (i) 27 mines be closed permanently no t sa t isfied . and taken up for reclamation; MR. SPEAKER: Please repeat your (ii) 6 mines be allowed to continue question. mining operations; and
(iii) 19 mines be reviewed by a High SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY After the powered Commi ttee to consider clousure of the mines. their continuation or otherwise. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (iv) 9 mines were not being operated Answers are not coming. even before the judgement. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: He has said that 27 mines have been closed. As (b) ana (c) Supreme Court has set up a result of the closure of 27 mines how a High Powered Committee to report about many workers have been rendered jobless 7 the 19 mines to decide wbether tbey shoul'd How many of them have been provided be continued or not. with alternative employment? If Dot. wby Dot? SHRI PIYUS rIRAKY: Sir, Mussoorie is a beautiful pJace and it attracts many tourists aJso from different AN HON. MEMBER: Quite relevant. countries. Is it not a fa~t that big MR. SPEAKER: He does Dot have businessmen are operating mining business the information because Labour MJnistrY ,there and the governmen t is hesi ta dng to is dealing with this subject. LabOur ,take any drastic measures to close these Ministry will be able to answer this subject. mining operations? These mining opera not he. This question is only for environ tions are doing more barm tban good to ment, ,asking whetber thOle miDes have the hill eity of Mussoorie. May I also been closed or not. If the closure a Weier. ·23 Oral Answ,', Oral Anlwer,
some labour that will be entrusted to the closure of the mines detrimental to eco 'Labour Ministry. You can table a separate system in that area? questioo. SHRI VIR SEN: Supreme Court has SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY : They have set up a High Power Committee. That ,already submitted a petition to the Petition Committee will be reporting and recom Committee of Rajya Sabha. The Rajya mending what ~houJd be done. The Sabba's Petition Committee is there. The Supreme Court will decide whether tbe ,Minister should know it. mines will be closed or kept open.
MR. SPEAKER: If he has any answer DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : Ooweca· ,he can aive it. If it is to be referred to ment can take over any mines whenever . Labour Ministry it will take time. it likes in the Interest of the public if mine-safe ty is not there, if there is environ SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Generally mental pollution which is detrimental to questions are sent to them. The Minister the people. The Mines and Minerals should be ready. Regulation Act cJearly says that the mines can be taken over. MR. SPEAKER : It is concerning lAbour Ministry. You have to ask labour SHRI VIR SEN : I think we can take Minister. any decision after the Supreme Court bas come to a decision. PROP. MADHU DANDAVATB: Sir, 'tbey must consult beforehand because it is SHRI C.P.N. SINGH: Sir, this ques a collective responsibility. tion of closure of these mines has been MR. SPEAKER: I think you can debated in Debra Doon for a long time. collect the information and pass it 00. Fortunately, it is not the Government, but the Supreme Court which came to the aid SHRI VIR SEN: That, I will do. and the limestone mines were dosed. What is happening is this. Certain roads are THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAllV constantly springing up where the mining GANDHI) : Labour is always our inte has been stopped. Under the 'head' of rest. We look after labour. I don't have road. Hme-stone is being removed illegally. the exact figures in front of n1e; but. jf I Will the Government kindly look into this remember rightly. the labour that was aspect also ? working there was not an absolutely local labour; tbey have come from outside and SHRI VIR SEN: Yes, we can look have been working there. But we have into it. :taken steps to protect the labour and We bave put aside Rs. 2S laths under the Relaxation to Females in Government Jobs Rural Development and N.R.E.P. to help 'employment of workers. *754. DR. G. VIJA Y A RAMA RAO : SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: DR.. KRUPASINDHU BHOr : The Will the PRIME MINISTER be ,question as it appears in the Question List pleased to state: is clear. There are no lime mines in the 'country, either lime-stone quarry or domo (a) whether female participation in mite quarry. The Minister has been very jobs has considerably declined from 28 per kind enough to give the answer. This cent in 1961 to 21 per cent in 1981; particular thing, how to maintain the eco (b) so, reasons thereof; .system of this particular are~, has been if the 'debated in the last Parliament, in your Cc) whether Government propose to ,pr~seDce. Mr. Speaker, severa) times. Has live some relaxations to female candidates the Minister taken up the matter with as in the case of selsT j n appointments Ministry of Labour that under Clause 4 in all tbe GovernmeDt Departments; and of Mines and Minerals Re,uJation Act of )$»64. the provisions can be enforced for' (d) if not, tbe realODS tb~reof 1 , 1 I VA ISA-KHA 18, lt06 (S~gA)
MR. SPEAKER: Are you referring to SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : It is tbis percentage position in the country or in correct that the ratio of girls up to the the ParJiamen t ? Primary level of education is less and as the leve) of education goes uP. maoy sirls SHRI M. RAGHlJMA REDDY: Sir. leave the educa tional institutions and tbat even this 27% or 190/0 as given in the is why they do Dot get hieher education. statement is very Jess, far below our expectation. In Andhra Pradesh. the State SHRIMATI KRISHNA SABI : WbJ do Government has fi"ed 300/0 of the jobs for they leave? women. Will the ~OD. Minister kindly tell us whether the Central Government is BoiDg SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : There to adopt the same principle as that of the are many reasons (or that. In Che rural 6ral Answ"s MAY 8.IHS
areas even the bC'ys leave the school at an thought women were as qual ified as meo early stage. Keeping in view all this, it is and that is what is' really happening. As the definite policy of Government that regards specific areas, for example in my dropouts of the primary level should be Ministry, we have certain telephone reduced and t9 increase their ratio it is exchanges which are manned only by essential that womeo'ts education must be women ... (lnterruptions). But I am not emphasised a nd that is the policy of relating this to the fUDctioning of our , Government. exchanges. I just wanted to give an instance how we are doing this. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Basudev Acharia also wants to contribute something. SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: I would Jjke to add a word to that. The hone Member [EngJi3h] has a very valid point and we are looking ioto this. Like I answered in the last SHRI BASUDEV ACHARIA: There question, we are trying to see how we can is a growing unemployment among the pay this matter special attention so that women and the job opportunities for them women can get much more opportunities to are also declining. There was a debate do better. But like the hone Minister has also in regard to this very session. In view said a little earlier. the basic questi.on is of of this will the Government consider raising education and as the hone Member is the age limit for entry in regard to Govern aware, one of the first steps we -took after ment jobs for female candidates? this Governn_ent took over was to make education free for women. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAJIV GANDHI) : There are some consti DR. DATTA SAMANT: Sir, I have tutional problems in raising the age limit seen specifically in Gujarat and Maharashtra for women in general under the clause which that the number of woman workers in says that there shall be no discrimination dropping down. One of the reasons is on the ground of sex. But we are looking that you cannot employ female workers into how we can do this and we will do after the sun set; for second and third something. shifts, the female workers are not available. In the Britannia Biscuits and pharma" SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: ceutical companies, they have given strict The question which I wanted to ask has instructions that no lady worker should be been raised by Basudev Acharia. ,recruited. The Government has given another facility to the lady workers. that MR. SPEAKER: Thank you very is maternity benefits. All these benefits much. you have given to the lady workers. I SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: I appr~ciate that. am glad that a male Member has asked tbis question and the Prime Minister has PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That answered it. But [ want to know another cannot be given to men. thing. In view of the fact that the parti cipation by women in economic activity is DR. DATTA SAMANf: But taking still much less than participation by men, advantage of this facility, the employers -will the Government make it a special have given strict instructions as far as point to identify each areas of employment textile industries are concerned, not to for women in which Government itself is employ female workers. 10 Maha concerned directly so that they are dealt rashtra and Gujarat, the number of . femaJe "with as a special target group. And what work~rs Jast year has gone down by seventy.. is done in regard to that should always be five per cent. I have got detailed figures. monitored and presented before the House There are strict instructions not to employ because data is not very often available. female workers. What is happening in regard to this? [Translation] SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: For MR. SPEAKER : Did you make aoy most posts undf'r the Government, I contribution for creating such a situation? Oral dnnHrl VAISAKHA 18.1t06 (SAK~) 30
(E",.llsh] services which they should have got. Their spouses die but despite their beiDI qualified, DR. DATTA SAMANT : As I said. in they do not get an opportunity to work. I the textile mills, there are strict instructions do not want any quota or reservation for' that no female worker should be employed them, but I want this much that the women because of the shift difficulties, and because who are eligible and qualified must be given of the maternity benefits thkt they are an opportunity in the services to work on a . supposed to extend to them. Employers are, post for which they are eligible on a therefore. wise enough not to employ female priority basis. Is the hone Minister workers. I can give you hundred names thinking of something on these lines and of factories, where such instructions what steps is he contemplating in thiJ· are given. They are in my union. directi on '1 Con~ideriDg tbis, is Government taking any steps to instruct these employers [English] to take positive measures and see that there should be so much employment SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA.: In for female workers? Or, to compensate, my Question itself, I have replied and with in eitheir the government machinery or in your permission I will repeat it. For pur ,) other places are you going to reserve poses of appointment to Group 'C' and 'D' . the number of Jady workers, upto a parti posts under the Central Government filled cular percentage, say 40 or SO ? by direct recruitment, the upper age limit in the case of widows divorced women SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: The and women judicially separated from the number of lady workers as well as their husbands but are not remarried is relaxable per~entage in the total working force is upto 35 years and upto 40 years for increasing. I will give some figures. In members of Scheduled Castes and 1962, the percentage was 10.9 in the Scheduled Tribes. As regards getting the organised sector. In 1984, the provisiona I job of the husband after his death, figures say that it is 12.5 per cent. So, it we have defini te ru les in that respect •. is not correct to say tha t the number of under what circumstances, the dependent women workers in the organised sector is of the deceased government employee gets decreasing. On the other hand it is the job and we act accordingly. There are raising. certain rules whether the son shouJd get it or as to how many sons are working, and [Tran.s/atlon] things of that nature. We have rules and we want to implement them. SHRIMATI VIDYAWATI CHATUR VEDI : I would like to express my thanks [Tranl/atlon] to the hon. Prime Minister that he is taking SHRIMATI VIDYAWATI CHATUR keen interest in the progress of women in VEDI : The rules are there, but these are· every field. But the answer to the question not being followed. shows that the strength of women in the services during 1961 to 1981 has gone down [English] from 28 per cent to 21 per cent. It is a matter of great regret ... Robot Technology
MR. SPEAKER: He has said that it *755. SHRI S.L. MURMU : Will the has increased. PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state:
SHRIMATI VIDYAWATI CHATUR.. (a) whether robot technology has b:en VEDI : If it bas increased, it is a matter for developed indigenously or imported ; happiness. (b) in what fields and at what place MR. SPEAKER.: You have reversed the robots are presently employed in the your reaction very soon. country; SHRTMATI VIDYAWATI CHATUR.. VEDI : But despite' that there are many (C) whether tbe performance of the wi40wes wbo do Dot set the protes;tion in the robot tccbnolo8Y is satisfactory; and VA'ISAIC.HA 18, 1t01 (SA~..4)
(d) whether the Indian robots are WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS eQlploycd in domestic, industrial and office jobs as employed in the West ? [En,II,"1
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Availability of PIcture Tubes MINISTRY OF SCIBNCE AND TBCfINO LOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC . *756. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS WJlI the PR IME MINISTER be pleased to state : (SHRI SHIVAJ V. PATIL) : (a) A limited expertise IS available in the country in the Ule of Robots and its commercial produc (a) tbe number of units in India which tion has not commenced in the country. are manufacturing colour and black and The proposals received in this regard white TV picture tubes and the number of eDvisage some import of tecHnology. picture tubes manufact",red by these units annually of different sizes; (b) Robots are presently employed in tbe manufacture of picture tubes, in the Duclear field and for high Precision metal (b) the number of agencies through cuttins/finishing. which these picture tubes are being sold to the T.V. manufacturers; (c) The usage of robots are now at preliminary stage and therefore, it is very (C) whether Government are aware of early to assess the overall performance. the difficulties encountered by the common people in getting a new picture tube; aod (d) No, Sir.
MR. SPEAKER: Shri S.L. Murmu. (d) if so, whether Government pro That is all. Thank you, Shri Madhav pose to talce remedial measures? Reddi.
SHRI C. MADHA·V REDDI : Just DOW THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB as the Minister has said, we do not have MINISTRY OF SCEINCE AND TECH. the technology in the country. We learnt NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS tbat tbe technology is avaHable in foreign OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC countries and in the EXPO-SS, wbich is ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS beiDI organised in Tokyo, the technology (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) At bas been eKhibited. I would like to know present there is. no production of colour wby Government of India bas Dot partici picture tubes in the country. Black 4 pated in EXPO .. 8S. Wbite Tubes are being manufactured by tbe following units. The names of tbe unit. MR. SPEAKER: Question hour is together with tbe quantities/types of tubes produced by each unit duriug 1984 is .s over. follows:
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S. No. Name of the Company Quantity
1. Mis. Dbarat Electronics Ltd. Ban.a)ore. 244,000 (51 em) 2. M/s. Punjab Display DC\'iees Lrmited, Cbandigarh. 23.836 (51 em) 3. ·M/s. Samtel (I) Limited, Bhiwadi. (i) 37.673 (31 cm) (ii) 27,918 (36 em) (iii) 266,176 (51 em) 4. MIs. TeJetube Pvt. Ltd Gbaziabad. 189.826 (SI em) s.. Mis. Uptron Anand, Kanpur. 12,012 (51 em) 6. MIa. WEDEL Video Devices Limited. Calcutta. (i) 12.246 (51 cm) (ii) 845 (60 em) VAJSAKIIA _J'.:UJ0'7 (S.4K.4)
(b) Black and White picture Tubul are Pestival iu the USA would be tbe foJl~"J.. beiDa sold by these companies directly to 6 classical art exbibit.ionl. ' TV 'manufacturers. Till the recent import policy for 1985-86. the import of Black & 1. The Scu Ipt ute of Ind ia: 2500 B .. C. Wbite picture tubes was canalised through to 1300 A.D. To be held ~t Blectronic. Trade & Technology Develop- Nationa) GaUery of Art. ment Corpora tion (BT and T). Wbile steps Washington D.C. from May 3 to would continously be taken to meet September 2, 1985. maa.imum requiremen ts through indigenous 2. 'India' : Metropolitan Museum of sources and indigenous production. tbe Art, New York, from September shortfalls would be met through imports 14 to January S, 1986. directly by TV manufacturers. 3. "Life at Court" : Museum of Pioe (c) and (d). No such major difficulties Arts, BostOD, from 20.11.1985 to have come to tbe notice of the Govern 9.2.1986 and at DaUas Mu...... ment. Replacement can ordinarily be of Art from 16.3.86 to 11.5.86. obtained by returning the old picture tubes to tbe TV set manufacturers or to ET and T. 4, "Prom Indian Earth": BrooklYD Museum. New York from January 'Festival of India' in FraDce and U.S.A. to March 1986. 5. 'Kushan Sculpture': Cleveland *757. SHRI G.G. SWELL: Museum of Art from 31.11.198', SHRI R. PRABHU : to 5.1.86, the Asia Society Oal· Will the Minister of CULTURE be leries. New York from 13.2.86 to pleased to s ta te : 6-4.86 and the SeattJe Art Museum from 13.5.86 to 13.7.86. (a) the stage at which preparation for the Ufestival of India" in France and the 6. 'Fatehpur Sikri and the Age 01 USA are at pre~ent; Akbar': Asia Society Ganerica. New York from 10.10.85 to 5.1.86. (b) the financial allocations for the Fogg Art Museum. Boston from , two festivals separately; and 10.2.86 to 30.3.86 and at the Museum of Fine Arts, Huston (c) the highlights of the festival in from 2.5.86 to 29.6.86. eath country? Besides the above. there wiJl be two THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE major exhibitions on tbe rural arta aDd MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND crafts of India namely AdUi from 4th TR.AINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RB.. June to 28th July 1985 at Smithsonian FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES Institution National Museum of Natural AND PENSION AND IN THE DBPART· History, Washington D.C. and an Exbibi. MENT OPCULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH tion OD contemporary Indian Terlacotta DEO): (a) The festival of India in art at the American Craft Museum. New France will be inaugurated on June 7 and York from September 9 to November 9, in U.S.A. on June 13, 1985 and the pre 1985. The progress and development 01 parations are nearing completion. contemporary India will be emphasised io a Science & Technology exhibition which (b) The Government of India will be will open in Chicago Science Museum rroPl spendins approximately Rs. 515/- lalehs on 12th June to 2nd September, 1985 and wiil the Festival of India in USA and about travel to Los Angeles. Minneapolis, Po~t. Ra. 200/- lakhs on the Festival of India in land (Oregon), and Seattle thereafter. France. Exhibitions on Wild life. Contemporary Art, Indian Architecture, Tuti.... (C) A statement is attached. Costumes, and DesigD USiDI Indian atill and raw materials will be among the hlah Statement lights. In the performinl art tbe hiahUgbt. (d) AQlon. tbe bi,hU,bts of tbQ would be tbe laau,ura) Concort at tbo 3; Wrltten'M,w,r, MAy 8,1985'
Kennedy Centre, Washington D .. C. on (d) it so, the details thereof? 1uDe 13. 1985. followed by a series of classical dance & music performances at the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Lincoln Centre, New York in September, MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL 1985 and a performing arts programme AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): combining classical and folk forms SPOil (a) Yes, Sir. The Central Government sored by the Ford Foundation which would have, in exercise of the powers vested in tour 40 universities from September 1985 it under Section 9 A of the Aircraft Act, to May 1986. Seminars and colloquia and 1934, through Gazette notification No. a festival of Indian, films would also be OSR·516 dated March IS, 1970 imposed held during the Festival of India in USA. certain restrictions on the construction or 'In Prance, among the highlights would be erection of a bui Jding or a structure the Inaugural Mela on 7 & 8 June in Paris, within a radius of 20 Kilometres of followed by the AVignon Festival which aerodromes including international airport. would feature some of the top exponents of Hindustani & Carnatic classical music and (b) The maximum distance of 20 in September-Odober 1985 the Autumn Kilometres from the Aerodrome Reference Pestival which would be a series of about Point within which construction is regula 67 concerts of classical and Music dance. tcd has been specified. The minimum Besides this a year long progra,nme of distance, however, wiH vary from aerodrome performing arts sponsored by the House of to aerodrome based on the direction of Cultures of the World will present in Paris the building site etc. in relation to the and many other cities in France, most of rnnway and location of the associated radio the folk forms, Ii ke chhau, the martia I navigational aids. arts, Nega dances, BalJands and folk songs. puppetry and shadow thcarte, Ras (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. The height Lila and Percussion concerts. An exhibition restriction will vary from aerodrome to of Classical art at the Grand Palais, Paris, aerodrome based on the provisions of in March.June 1986, anj exhibition of GSY·516 and the operational requirements Indian architecture in the Ecole des Beau,'{ of radio navigational aids. arts Paris in November 1985, a Textile BKhibition in the Musee des Arts Decora [Translation] tiCs, Paris in October 1985, an Exhibition of Contemporary Indian art and a festival UpUftment of Nomadic Tribes of U.P. of Indian films at the Pompidou Centre as *759. SHRI KALYAN SINGH well as a series of seminars will also be SOLANKI: Will the Minister of HOME amoDg the highlights of the Festival of AFFAIRS be pleased to state : India in France. (a) whether {Jnion Government have Restrl CtiOD on Construction of Buildings taken any concrete steps for the upliftment Near Airport of nomadic tribes of Uttar Pradesh;
.758. SHRI SURESH KURUP: W ill (b) if so, Government's policy in tbe Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL regard to the future of these tribes; AVIATION be pleased to state : (C) the socia) educational and political (a) whether there is any restriction level of these nomedic tribes of Uttar stipulated by Civil Aviation or International Pradesh and whether Government propose Airport Authority of India regarding the to develop these tribes; and construction of buildings near International Airports; (d) whether Government are consider ing any proposal to include these trjbes in (b) if so, the minimum distance the list of Sch~duled Castes and Scheduled regulation for the construction of Tribes and if not, the reasons therefor? buildings; THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (c) whether there is any restriction on (SHRI S.B. CHA VAN) : (a) to (C). SonJe the beight Qf the bQildings; and of 1 hese c(lmrnun i ties who sa tisfy the criteria 31 Writtlln "",Wtlr8 VAISAKHA 18, 1907 (SAKA) Written AnsWer, adopted for i Delusion in the existing lists probJelns faced by prospective Indian of Scheduled Castes already stand included visitors in getting visas for Pakistan. This in the existing lists of Scheduled Castes in fact has been brought to the notice of the tbe State of Uttar Pradesh; and tbey are Pakistan authorities from time to time. entitled to all benefits, as are admissible to other Scheduled Castes in the State under (b) It is the responsibility of the the Special Component Plan and also under Pakistan Government to locate and rent Centrally Sponsored Sch:mes. There arc, accomodation for opening their Consulate of course, otht"r communities of nomadic! General in Bombay. Government is wiJJing denotified tribes which are not in the to extend all possible assistance in tho lists of SCs and STs but the State Govern matter. Pakistan Embassy in New DeJhi ment treats some of thenl as other has been opera ting a temporary visa office backward classes and takes up schemes for from time to time in Bombay. their development in the State sectors. Deployment of CRPF aDd BSF Battalions (d) There is a well-laid procedure for the inclusion of any community in the in Bihar lists of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. The proposal of the State Govern *761. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD ment along with similar other proposals SINGH: Will the Minister of HOME are being considered in the context of the AFFAIRS be pleased to state: proposed comprehensive revision of the lists of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled (a) the number of places in Bihar Tribes. where CRPF and nSF battalions were deployed during the last three years and whether the incidence of violence has come down with their deployment; Visa for Pakistan (b) jf so, the percentage of decrease *760. SHRI SOf\tJIBHAI DAMOR: in the incidence of violence; and Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to sta te ; (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) whether it has come to the notice of Government that severe problem is THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS faced by the people including VIPs in (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) to (0). A obtaining visa for short visits to and from statement giving information about the Pakistan; and number of coys of CRPF and BSP which were placed a t the disposal of State (b) whether the Pakistan Embassy Government of Bihar during the period desires to open an office at Bombay to from 1-3-1982 to 28-2-1985 is laid on the divert the heavy rush from Delhi but is TabJe of the House. The Sta te Govern unable to do so because of non-availability ment is primarily responsible for the of land/building on ren tal basis at maintenance of Jaw and order. Wbcnever Bombay? para-mili tary forces were deployed in Bihar at the request of the State Government. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE violence has been chacked in tbose pJaces MINISTRY OP EXTERNAL AFFAIRS where the forces were deployed. However. (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): Government have no information to say (a) Our Missions in Pakistan have been whether the i[lcidence of violence bas promptly issuing visas to Pakistani nationals come down as a whole in Bihar' because a wishing to visit India. few coys of para-military forces were deployed from time to time in som. However. Government is aware of t.be places. ~9 "'''tt,,. A,.,.;" MAY 8,1985 "',1",,, ..4nlW~" 40
State_at
Deployment o/CRPF In Billar during th, pe,iod/rom 1-)·1982 1028.. 2·1985
Month and Year No. of coys Period for which deployed depJoyed
March 1982 19 1-3-1982 to 7·3·1982 9 8·3·82 to 31-3-82 April 1982 21 1-4-82 to 30.. 4-82 May 1982 21 1-5-82 to 3·5·82 June 1982 21 1.. 6·82 to 6-6-82 9 7 -6-82 to 30-6-82 1uly 1982 27 1-7.. 82 to 31-7-82 AUlust 1982 18 1·8 .. 82 to 31·8·82 September 1982 12 8-9.82 to 17·9·82 12 19-9-82 to 30·9·82
October 1982 18 1.10-82 to 23·10·82 13 24·10·82 to 31 .. 10-82
November 1982 to December 1982 7 1-11-82 to 31-12-82 Ianuary 1982 to 1983 10 1·1-83 to 31·1983 Peb. 83 to May' 83 5 1-2.83 to 31-5-83 June 1983 10 1-6-83 to 30-6-83 JuJy 83 to Sept. 83 5 1-7-83 to 30-9·83
Oct' 83 to Nov' 83 8 1-10-83 to 30-11-83 December 1983 14 19·12·83 to 31-12·1983 lanuary 1984 3 1-1-84 to 31-1-84 Peb 84 2 1-2-84 to 29-2-84 March 84 2 1·3·84 to 31·3.84 April 84 2 1·4-84 to 30-4-84
May 84 to JUDe 84 4 1.. 5-8 ~ to 30·6· 84 July 84 2 1-7·84 to 31-7-84 Aug 84 to Oct 84 . 4 1-8-14 to 31-10.94 Nov 84 6 1·11·84 to 30.11.84 Dec 84 12 20·12·84 to 22·12.84 IS 23-12·84 to 24.12.84 10 25-12-84 to 31-12-84
JaDuary 1985 10 1·1·85 to 4·J·85 Peb 8' 12 26·2·85 to 28-2 .. 8, 41 Written .411swer. VAISAKHA 18. 1907 ($~K.4) Written An$w~'"
D6ploYm,nt 0/ BSF I" Bihar During th. P8riod/rom 1-3-1982 to 28-2-1985
Month and Year No. of coys deployed Period (or which deployed
March 1982 3 28-3·82 to 8·4-82 1 28-3-82 to 11-4-82 1 28-3-82 to 16-4-82 April 1983 3 20·4·'83 to 27·4-83 Dec 1983 9 14.12-83 to 25-12-83 4 15-12-83 to 26·12-83 S 16-12-83 to 26·12.83 Dec. 1984 6 10-12.84 to 31-12-84 5 ]6·12-84 to 31-12-84 5 18-12-84 to 31-12-84 2 22-12-84 to 31-12-84 14 19-12-84 to 31 .. 12-84 Feb 1985 5 23-2-85 to 10-3·85 10 25-2-85 to 10-3-85 5 27-2-85 to 10-3-85 10 28-2-85 to 10-3-85 11 28-2-85 to 16-3-85
Concessions to Consumers of Electron Ics Organised by AIMO in Delhi on February goods 21. 1985 Hon'bJe Prime Minister had *762. SHRI ANAND SINGH : Will pointed out that many of the concessions, the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Biven to Industry including reductions in state : controls, have Dot been passed on to the consumer in the way that they should have (a) whether Government have observed been. As a result of the fiscal package tbat tax concessions and relaxations (rom announced in August 1983 for electronics controls granted by Government to industry, tbe prices of components and electronics industry have Dot been passed Equipments were reduced by various manu on by the industry to the consumers; facturers but Government had felt that CTV sets of 51 ems. screen size should be (b) whether any study has been made available for around Rs. 5000/.. plus local to see how far the tax concessions etc. taxes. intended to be passed on to the consumers have been retained by the industry and (b) WhiJe no detailed study has been if so, the outcome thereof; and conducted covering the entire spectrum of Electronics, Government have taken various (c) the steps contemplated to ensure steps to br;ng down the price of colour TV tbat such concessions are duly passed on sets. These are given in the statement umers ? to the coos attached. THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH (c) Government does not have any NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS mechanism to find whether all the con OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, cessions granted to a sector of industry ATOMIC ENERGY SPACE AND have been passed on the consumer or not. ~LECTRONICS (SHRI SHIV RAJ V. Once the concessions are announced, the PATIL) : ,(8) In hi. address at the 'Seminar market forces play an important role in OD JDveltmeDt opportunities in Electronics brjnging about price reductions. This i. Written Answer6 MAY 8, 1985 Wrillln t4nswel's what can be seen frOlD the continuous under the Departmen t of Electro trend of falling prices of CTV sets. nics, under their "Material Tech nology Brand Name" (MTB) pro Statement gramme will provide help to industry to produce quality pro Various steps are being taken to bring down the price of Colour TV Sets. These ducts at reasonable cost by supply includes ing material precured by them in bulk along with necessary techno (i) Issuing industrial approvals logy. It is expected that CTYs liberally. without any tipper limit manufactured under this scheme 00 capacities so that econumi· will be available at a price Jess cally viable level of production than the price at which the CTVs could be achieved and competi being sold in the market. tion encouraged. (v) ET & T shalls upply Colour. Picture (ii) Producing Government Jevies Jjke Tubes in adequate Quantities to customs duty on imported raw the various Colours TV manufa materials/components, reduction cturers. in excise duty, etc. (vI) As per an::louncerncnt made in (i ii) Department (jf Electronics has set Parliament on August 18, 1983, up a higll power TV Coordination Customs duty on- Committee under the Chairmau ship of Secretary, Electronh.:s with (a) Imported com poncnts such representation from Indian TV as CoJours TV TuDes, leS, Manufacturers Association, and Resistances, Capacitor~t etc., Electronic Components Industries has been reduced from 158% Association, to review and monitor (0 75%. the progress of manufacture of TV (b) Capital equipment needed sets. The question of maximum for manufacture of Colour TV price to be charged for a CTV Receivers hus been reduced set has been discussed in the from 3~% to 25%. 10 various meetings of the above addi tion, excise duty on committee. In the meeting of this Colour TV Receiver sets has commi ttee held on 16-8-1984, been reduced from 2 >% ITMA committed that from 15th (plus 5% surcharge) to 15% October, 1984, cost of the for a Colour TV set with CTV to the cllstomer with all screen size upto 51 cms. taxes and one year guarantee in This has recently been Delhi wiJJ not be more than changed to Rs. 900/.. per set. Rs. 7500/- with electronic tuner and Rs. 7000j-with turret tuner. It is expected tha t with the above steps Further in the meeting of this and the market forces opera ting, CTV sets Committee held on 21-12-1984, wilJ been become available to the consu ITMA was requested to advise all mers a t a reasonab Ie price. their members to provide the list of their CTV dealers an over Development of Tribal Districts of Orissa India and thc.ir all-inclusive eus ·763. SHRI CHfNTAMANI lENA tonler price inel usive of one year Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be warranty, of various models of pleased to state: CTV sets. ITMA agreed to do so. The lists would be made (a) the names of TribaJ Districts in public. Orissa;
(iV) Ele'ctronics Trade & Technology (b) the amount allocated for ·the deve Development Corporation (ET and lopment of these districts during tbe. Sixth T), a public sector undertaking Five Year PJan; 45 VAISAICHA I', 1907 (SAK.A) Wrltt." Answel'1
(C) the amount actually spent and ~he (b) established in early 19608, has been details of work done for the development servieg a large number of national and inter of Adivasi people of these districts; national scientists in conducting souodio, rockets experiments. As a unit of the (d) whether these districts are still Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), backward in all respects; . it is being adequately maintained to serve (e) if so, the details of financial assis these needs and is also being augmented as tance being allocated for the deveiopment found necessary from time to time to of these ar~as during the Seventh Plan support the na tiona I and in terna tionaJ period? efforts. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Acid Rains (SHRI S. B. CHAVAN) : (a) The di~tdc~s having substantial tribal population in ·765. SHRI BEZHWADA PAPI REDDY; Will the PRIME MINISTER be Orissa are the ent ire districts of Koraput, pleased to state: Mayurbhanj and Sundergarh and parts of the districts of (a) Keonjhar. (b) Boudh (a) whether there have been incidences Khondmals, (c) Kalahandi, (d) Oanjam, of "Acid Raius" in the country and if so, (e) Saembalpur aod (f) BaJasore. the detai Is thereof for the last three years; (b) the short-term and long-term Josses (b) The Sixth Plan allocation for the arising from "acid rains"; and development of Scheduled Tribes and tribal areas in the State was Rs. 68607.70 lakhs. (c) whether the "acid rains" have (c) The expenditure during the Sixth decreased due to preventive measures taken, Plan was Rs. 66959.55 lakhs. The pro and if so, the deta i Is for the last three grammes undertaken included (i) infrastru years '/ ctura). (ii) income generating schemes. (iii) educational development programmes, THE MINfSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCJENCE AND TECH~O and (iV) anti-exploitative measures. LOGY AND IN TIlE DEPARTMENTS (d) Relatively speaking these are back OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC ward in several respects. ENERGY. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) = (a) There (e) The amount to be allocated during are no confirmed reports of any incidents the Seventh Plan is being finalised by the of acid rain in India during the last three Planning Commission. . years.
De'felopment of Thumba Equatorial Rocket (b) and (C). Does not arise. Launching Station System of Hanging by Rope .764. PROF. P. J. KURIEN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: *166. SHRI N. DENNIS: WiJJ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased (a) Whether there is any proposal to to state : devolop the Thumba Equatorial Rocket Launching Station at Trivandrum; and (a) whether the system of hanging by rope is being foHowed at prescnt; (b) if so, the details thereof? (b) whether there is any proposal under MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the considera tion of Government to chanac MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH. the current system of hangill1g by rope; NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS aDd OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT ATOMIC (C) if so, the changes proposed in tbis ENERGY SPACE AND ELECTRONICS regard? (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) and (b) The Thubma Equatorial Rocket THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Launching Station (TJiRLS), and (SH~I S.B. CHAVAN) : (a) Yes, Sir, .7 MAYa.INS
(b) No-, Sir. (C) Sinco administrative reform i. a continual process, a fixed schedule for (c) Does not arise. impJcmcDtina administrative chanaes eao Import of Aircraft for Private Parties not be drawn up. Some steps have already been taken. Ministries have been asked to *767. SHRI VIJA Y N. PATIL : Will draw up plans of action to brin, about the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL qualitative changes in their working "attern AVIATION be pleased to slate: within the shortest possible time. (a) whether Government have decided to allow import of aircraft for private [Trans latlon] parties to run as third level air services. executive aircraft for use of big business ~mplementatlon of GadgU Formula ror bouses and small 6 seater for private air Development of DHert A rea I. Raj.stbaD taxi services; and *769. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will (b) jf so, the details thereof? the Minister of PLANNING be pleased (0 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) whether Rajasthan Government (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) and (c). The suggestion of the State Government will be Jooked into in (c) the tentative schedule for imple the context of the finalisation of tbe mentation or introduciDB the new admini Seventh Plan. atrative system in the country? MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) and (e) The Rajasthan Govern MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND ment have also suggested certain cbanaes T1lAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE' RE in the modified GadgiJ Formula of Central FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES assistance to Sta tes. Any change in the AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART modified Gadgil Formula will have to be MBNT OF CULTURE: (SHRI K.P. decided by Ih~ National Development IlNOH DEO) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. Council. VAISA1(HAo;"18,. JfIo7 (SAKA) rSnglUlf.] Kalkaji and Greater Kailasb 'is tbe raiuJt of this stone dust; and , 7 .' "t,t: ~, '",. (d) if so, the measures proposed to be .'00. DR:.' ~IC!RUPkSIN'DHU BHOI: lakeD tby GOVOIfMDcD,-"in this_.re,ard ? ,Witf 'tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased" to ", mslMIN'ISTBR OF STATE IN TfJE state : '. MINl'S1'ltY '~rJt!J' _", HOME' APpAi:ls (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (al (a) chether India and U.S.A. have .' I( : ' I.... ,{ , • . ' , and (IS)!' 'It it'true' iliat dust produced by identIfied sevefal new' areas In science and , ·stone· c"rusHers in some South 'De;thi technology for joint research; . .t; ., ~' vi1lage~' lias "~eri 'creatijjg"'~dust poll u'tl'ilo , (b) if so, the details thereof; and ~hjS!l ris not, ~o~~j,dered a9~ ,_ ._. health. . ... n't • J J ~" • t, , t·... . / .., i, (c) the details of t.he a~reemepti reach,e~, in J~e pl8 t)'t?r ? ' ~ ~ ~,r' \ · .' (c) There 'has "been' no po'sJtive eViden'ce in support of this correlation. : "THE ~INISTER OF STATE ,IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO .. r (d), the' '~qh(ifipal Corponition of LOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS ~e,~~i R~ve '.-t ,u~lJ1rnte~ med ;~'l.'., facilities OF OCEAN DEVELOPM~T, ATOMIC In areas near I the stone crushers. They ENERO¥'I SPACE ANQ./,ELECTRONICS h~~~: II ~,Jso &,' r~~~~red fi'he mat'ter of d~st (SHRl SHIV,RAJ V.,! Pt\ TIL): (a) to (c). poJJp,tion, t~ .exp~ft~"f9r advice ~,i~h a view Yes Sir, some areas under the follQ,wjng tQ cp~,~a~J?/~i~jg~!~. th~, ~roble":l' .' beads have been identified for possible coopera lion. ' :1 Wor.kingcof Spc:ial o,gaJlI~atit)"s of Foreign Countries in SC1ST Areas L 'Health, Medical t& ,Life Sciences. 2. Physical Sciences. ,;S~13.'rSHR.I. H~~NAN. , ,MOLLAH : Will the Minister of HOME APFAIRS be I -, '" I', :- ,'.... 3. AtmosphQric.", I fE~rt,h ,& \ Marine pJe~ed to state: . Sciences. , ',. ,~. ~ ~ 4. Energy. (ft) the number 'Of socia I organisations t ~ f ;"', t 'I" t r ..) of fbreign'" countries' 'working in ' the S. Environment & Eco~~8Y. Sche8uled Castt" /Scheduled Tribe areas all 6. Information Science & Technolo~y. - over 'the" country; I Stone Dust .,y Shn~e Crushers' iri Soutb Delhi (b) the particulars of those organisa , I , ~. ~l ~ ~ tions, and their activities; 5542. SHRI SANAT KUMAR , J. ~{,C,) their financjal \r~sourctes an( how MANDAL : 'NiH, the t Minjster of HOME much they ,b~ve spent in cash and kind ,AFFAIRS be pleased to .stato: I, during the Jast five years; J' ", "1 (a) whether over 20~OOO . residents , of , (d:, whetl,ler tbe'it' activiifes and expendi South Delhi villages are at risk from a tures ha~e been scrutin~ised by Gover~nient; . cJoud of stone dust' thar 'envelops · the area if so, the details thereof; day' 'in and day out as.a rt~ull of crushing of rocks by over 100: stone crushers in sha t ,(c) ,t~e: naw~s ~f.' In,dian ~,;g~nisutionli '=area~ wb,o are related to~ tho~e foreiin organisa- ',. I", .' :, tions; ~nd f' (b) whether over a .perj.Qd of time ,. inhaHing of the dust combinad"with Jack (f) dcta i Is thereof? of clean water and malnutrition caused by 'MINISTER ' OF .,' stATE I'N THE "u.q.csnployment and poxefJY IFP to deadly I, MINISTRy'O~HOME AFFAIR~ : (a)' to disease,. hke T.D. alld la.\~8, can,crer i,n ~hjs (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (a) , area; • I " to (f). Th! .inf?~m~t~o~ is beil)..~~I_e... ~~d and " I' ,q(c). wl)etlle.: "jtching e~peri,er;Jced by will be laid on the'\" Table OI'~ iIN U .... , .~ ; • "1'" (' ~, • Po~e arouid .tr&;~'r 1ik~. ~~hr}.ll.~lace, when r ... c~iyed. 52 (d) the reasons for the sbfJrtf.U, if any. and the steps taken to ,fill the quota Deaths in F,ve Star Hotels in Delbi resen-ed'.. fo.r SC .,ud'~ST employeel~ and 5544; ':SHRI" R'AM ·PUIAN P~'TBL: (e) the DUftaber 0(., roser.v.ed' P,OIts'· lapsed "Will the, ~hHStel' ,of,· TOtJAISW, AND durina the 188" .three ytars.· and, whether OI.VIL AVIAT.lONt. be ploased\to ...lte,! carried forward rules were applied in duse cases? (a), .. the number of deaths QccuN'ed in ·fl\fe-star· hotels in Delhi during the last two THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE .' ," ....., ... pu \·t.bo..alhia.l- IU&tj. iCitt aA4 MINISTRY OF Pu'N~ING ($8&1 K.R . NARAYANAN) :' (8) to (e). The' informa . ('~Ut-tJ:~b)1'1\e"'secority arrangements proposed tion i8 I tJeing coUecled from ,_ field to be made in future by Government in the offices of National Sample Survey Organisa five-star hotels for the tourists staying tion Jeca ted through out the; country and therein? will be laid on tbe table of the Hou·se. THE MIN.JSTER OF STATE IN THE UOfesoJved Issues Between India and M.lNISTRY OF TO'URISM 'AND CIVIL BaQlI.desb AVIATION (SHRI ASROK OEHLOT): (a) Tbe Department of Tourism does not 5546. S'HRI KALI PRASAD receive or maintain statistics relating to PA'NDEY: Will the Minis·ter of dt:aths in Hotels~ However. as per informa EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to tion collected from the boteis1their Cor state: porate Offices, 6 cases of deaths occurred in :S-StaT 'hotels In Oe1hi in the las,t' two (a) whether India has expressed its years. desire to sort out the unresolved issues . ;~t.."een ;ladia I .nd ; . DangJa"esh _through (b) All Five Star hotels have their own negotia tions; elahorate security arraogements for the (b) if so, the nature of unresolved safety of tourists staying therein. The issues~ ',Hotel and Re.StB1JNlDt Approv.al and Cla'Sification Committee of the Department (c) the response of the Bangladesb ,'during -its' initial ·a.nd ~tlbsequaot ins Government towards this suggestion of pections. looks into the adeqwacy of these Jadia.;' ~!1ld arrangemenfS. (d) when the n~gotiation is likely to [English) take place to sort out the unresolved iS$ ues ? SCs[STs Erb'Ploy~f'~ in Nntiooal Sample " SlltVey or ladla THE MINISTER. OF STATB IN THE MINISTRY ,,oF BXTERNAL .AFFAlRS SS4S SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN) : Will the Minister of PLANNING be (a,- 'Yes,' Sir. ' pleased to sta te : (b) The more illlPortant unresol.ved (a) the tota I number of employees in issues are: . :tbe Q"4estion. of ",ugmenta~ion the NationaJ Sample Survey of India and I;and Ibar~B ·of ~h~ Ganaa 'Yatersj", the a Iso in its office at" Bhubaneswa r as on J'd large scale and continuing illegal i~J,ra March. 1982 and as on tbe 1st 'March,' 1985 tion from Bangladesb; aDd, the vesting of Ca telory-wise; properties in Bao81adeMh of Indian . Nationals aond their Bangladeshi Closurers. (b) tbe Dumber of SCs and STs employees on these da res category-wise j n On Tin Bigha, Government remains -; the.. ,ofIjees; committee to handing over the corridor OD lease to Bangladesh. }~(1'1~:'~eJf'rvation rules ic favour or S<:s and' ~Ts employees are being There are in addition, a few .ubjects followed and rosters maintained; such as: the delimiJation of tbe M.,tittme VAtSAKHA 18, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answ,a 54 Boundary, problems involving common/ Paintiags of LadakbMoo8stec I. border rivers and tbe sharing of Teesta waters etc wbich tbe two sides continue to 5548. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA discuss. REDDY: WiJl the Minister of CULTURE be pleased to state : (c) The Bangladeshi leaders, including President Brshad, have welcomed Govern . (a) whether Ladakh monasteries have ment's initiative to resolve the outstanding rich welJ paintings, and jf so fuJI details issues through negotiation. thereof; (d) Talks to resolve some of 'tbe more . (b) whether Government have in posies important and pressing issues would be slon colour films of these paintings and if so, details thereof; held shottl1.i' , 1'$ (c) whether the staff of National Impact of Mining Operation on Forest Land Museum and other institutions have visited Ladakh and soon thes~ paintings and if so 5547. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD details thereof; and SETHI : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (d) whether the Museum in Cologne in West Germany and other western countries (a) whether Government ha~e made have a far better and complete collection any assessment regarding the impact of of photographs than those available in mining operation on forest land; India and if so corrective steps proposed? (b) if so, the extent to which the THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB forest wealth bas been utilised in the MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND States as a result of mining operation; TR~ININO ADMINISTRATIVE RE. and FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART. (c) the details regarding the- steps MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) Yes, !lir. There are a large Government have taken for the protection number of Buddhist Monastries including of forests from destruction by mining the important ones at Hemls, Alchi and ~hoy. These have beautiful murals depict. opera tions ? IDg themes based on Buddhism including ecenes from the life of Buddha and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bodhisatvas. MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) to (c). (b) Yes, Sir. The Archaeological An in-depth assessment of the impact of Survey of India has documented tbe paint mining operations on forest lands, for the ings and possesses colour transparencies. whole country, is not available, with the colour negatives and black: and white enactment of the Forest (Conservation) photographs of these paintings. Act, 1980, with effect from 25th October. 1980, diversion of forest land for any non .. forest use requires prior approval, of (c) Staff of the National Museum havo the Central Government. Before giving not visited Ladakh. Officers of the Arch such a pprovaJ, each proposa) is aeological Survey of India have visited examined carefully and necessary Ladakh and documented tbe paintings at Hernis, Alohi, Shey and other mODastries. safeguards are prescribed to minimise, if not prevent, damage to forests. In the case of mining projects, it is laid down (d) According to the pubUsbed refer that the area should be restored and snees, the Archives of the Cologno Musuem replanted after the mining operation is have photographic collection of the paint. over. In addition, compensatory afforesta ings at Alchi. Archaeological Surveyor India has already taken up documontation tion is prescribed by debit to the mining of the murafs and monuments ia Ladakb. project. 55 MAY 8,1985 56 LaDd Development Board THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB MINI~TRY OF ENVIRONMBNT AND 5549. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): Statement National Wastelands D~ve/opment Board. Composltloa The composition of the Board will be as fo)Jows : -Dr. (Mrs.) Kamla Chowdhr~ Chairperson -Chairman, Advjsory Board on Energy Member -Three Members of Parliament Members -Secretaries to the Government of India in tbe Departments of : -Agriculture and Coopera tiOD. -Rural Development -BDvironment -Secretary, Finance (Expenditure) ... Member (Finance) -Secretary. Department of Agricultural Member Research and Education and Director General, Indian Council of Agricultura I Research. -Special Secretary (Forests and Wildlife) ... Member and Inspector General of Forests. -Represelltatives of Voluntary Agencies, Cooperative Institutions etc. (not exceed ins six) to be nominated by tbe Chair penon of the Board in consultation with the concerned agency. -Secretary, Department of Forests and ~ember-Sccretory Wildlife. 57 Written A",WrJ VAISAK.HA 18, 1901 (S.4KA) The Board may coopt experts as may mObilis'jog manpower, funds aDd be nece~sary. other inputs required for waste lands development programmes. Role' and Functions (vii i) Sponsor development' of appro priate technology and manage The principal aim of the Board shall ment practices for wastelands be to bring under productive use, waste development. lands in the country through a massive programme of afforestation aod tree (ix) Create a reJiable data base aDd planting. To this end. it will undertake documentation centre on reJated tbe following main functions : aspects of wastelands development. (i) Formulate within the overall (x) Promote a net work of nurseries National Policy, Perspective Plan and "Seed Banks" to supply and Programmes for the manage .. quality certified planting material ment and development of waste and seeds. lands in the country. (xi) Promote training programmes and (ii) Identify the . wastelands in the training materials for workers at country to be covered under the various Jevels for optimal develop programme of the Board. ment and utilisation of waste lands. (iii) Review the progress of imple .. men tation of programmes ,and (xii) Prepare budgetary requirements schemes for the development of for the Board and its wastelands wastelands by different agencies deve Iopmen t schemes. within and outside the Govern ment. (xiii) Interact with financial institutions for funding wastelands develop (iv) Approve projects and schemes for ment programmes. the dev~lopment of wastelands through Government and other (xiv) Create general awareness in favour agencies. of wastelands development, specially through the education (v) Consider and fund projects and system. schemes of appropriate agencies for wastelands development. (XV) Take up studies or set up expert (vi) Promote. encourage and finance groups for the purpose of pre development of wastelands in tbe paring projects/schemes/papers. country through the active in reports etc. on specified schemes. volvement of non-Government organisations, voluntary agencies (xvi) Act in collaboration with the and the public at large, including National Land Use and conserva tion Board in regard to matters of the land less. common concern. (vii) Collaborate with the Central and State Government departments, (xvii) Consider and undertake aIJ other agencies. local bodies and volun measures necessary for promotinl tary agencies wi th a view to the development of wastelands . flJrilten A"",.r8 Statemeat·II Th~ details of/and use (as per Soil and Wat.r Conser,alion dlvilion 0/ 1M Depart ment 0/ Agriculture & Coop.ratlon 'as gl,~" b~/o'W (1910-81) MiJlion Remarks hectares 1. Geoglaphica area 328'778 2. Reporting area for land 304.167 utilisation sta tistics. 2.1 Porests 67.421 Figure under reconcila· tion 75.062 as on 31.12.83 according to Deptt. of Forests aDd Wildlife. 2.2 Not available for cultivation 2.2.1 Land put to non-agricultural uses 19.452 2.2.2 Barren and uncultivabJe land 20.167 3. Other uncultivab)e land excluding fallow land 12.008 3.1 Permanent pastures 3.2 Land under miscellaneous 3.494 tree crops and groves not included in net area sown. 3.3 Cu Iturable wasteland 16.728 4. FaJlow land fallows. 9.817 4.1 FaHows other than current 4.2 Current faJJows 14.810 S. Net area sown 140.270 The estimated land subject to various factors of degradation is as under: Area SI. No. Factor of degrada tion (million hectares) 1. Water and wind erosion (includes 38·74 150.00 . million hectares affected by wind erosion and aridity, of which 1.00 million hectares are also affected by sand .. dunes). 2. Water-logging . 6.00 2.50 3. Alkalinity 4. Salinity (includes coastal sandy areas) .S.SO 5. Ravines and gullies 4.00 6. Shifting cultivation 4.33 7. Riverine and torrents 2.73 Totat 175.06 ThCle estimates are boiDI updated. VAISAICRA 18, 1901 (S~K,4) Colleetloa of FaDcIs b, M.N.F. Uader to make the said law stringent byamcndiD, around and T ~N .UI. the Constitution so that such criminals arC' punisbed; and 5550. SHRI DHARAMVIR SINGH : Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be (c) if so, by what time? plealed to state: THE MINISSER OF·' STATE IN THB whether as reported in the press, MINISTRY OF HOl\IjE AFFAIRS the MNF undergroud and the TribaJ (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : National Volunteers on the North (a) to (c). It is not correct to say that East rcgion bave forcibly collected the persons prosecuted for these offences are 80 caJled taxes to the tune of Rs. SO lakhs Jet off due to the absence of stringent Jaws. 'and Rs. 21 laths re$pectively since the The conviction of an offender by a court peace talb started between Laldenga and would depend on the evidence Jed by the tbe Centre; prosecution in each case. The question of amending the Constitution does Dot (b) whether Government would s~ilJ I ike arise. to continue the talks with Laldenga; and (English] (c) whether Government have taken up Sters to PopuJarlse Bio-Gas 10 Orissa the matter of escape of TN Volunteers into Bangladesh with the Government of that 5552. SHRI JAGANNATH country? PATTNAIK : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the steps taken to popularise the MINISTRY jOF HOMB AFFAIRS bio-gas in the State of Orissa; (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) As per avaiJable information, MNF (b) whether there has been appoor rcs have collected 'donations' (oot taxes) to ponse from the cons.umer under the biogas the tune of about Rs. 11 lakhs since the suppJy programme in Orissa; talks Itarted in November, 1984. The TNV, (c) whether any assessment has been has colJected about Rs. 1 lakh as 'taxes' made regarding the gas going waste every since the peace talks started with MNF. day; and (b) Talks with Sbri LaJdenga are stiJi continuing. (d) if so. steps being taken to utilise the potential fuJly ? (c) The matter has been taken up with Bangladesh Government through diplomatic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB channels. MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH· NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS [ Tranl/allon] OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS StrloleDt La" for Publish log Obscene (SHRI SHIVRAI V. PATIL): (a) and (b). Litera tore A Central Sector Scheme 'National Project for Biogas Deve)opment' (NPBD) is under 55S1. SHRI KAMAL PRASAD implementation in different States and RAWAT : Will the Minister of HOME Union Territories including Orissa. The AFPAIRS be pleased to state : project provides for Central subsidy, turn key job fee, promotional cash inccntivCl, (I) whether Government are aware Staff' support, trainina courses. repair tbat criminals engaged in purchasinl, seiling charges etc. Similarly, a Central programme and publishing of obscene literature inclu for setting up community and institutional dina rapists arc let oft" easily fn court bioaas plants is also under implementation. cases in the absence of stringent Jaw as a The State Government of Orissa result of which this evil is increasing day has recent by set up Orissa Renewable by day; Energy Development Ageocy which is tbe (b) if so. whether Government propose nodal agency for promotion of biosa.• 63,· W,III", A"IWI" MAY 8,,1'85 Pian!.. In view of these measures. tbe be pleased to state : response to tbe NPBD in Orissa durina 1984-85 bas been encouraging. (a) whether two ... scaJes of pensioD Rs. 300/-. and Rs. Soo/- p.m. are beiDa (c) and (d). To assess' the operational paid uoder the "1972 scheme to Freedom , efficiency of family based biogas plants Fighters and ex-INA personnel; installed in different States including Orissa. evaluation survey studies have been san· (b) if so, the 'basis for sucb discrimina· tioDed. The evaluation survey study in tion; Orissa is in progress. Orissa Renewable Bnergy Development Agency is responsible (c) whether the non-official Advisory for provjding post-installation services for Committee of his Ministry, at its meeting biogas plants and ensuring full utilisation' of 21 July. 1984, had recommended tbat a uniform rate of Rs. SOO/- p.m. should be Autaretica Study Centre sanctioned; SSS3 DR. V. VENKATESH: Will (d) If so, Government's reaction in the tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased to refer to the rep1y given to Unstarred matter; and Question No. 2386 on the 10 April 1985 regarding the Antarctica Study Centre for (e) what other concessions are aranted Research Activities and state; to Freedom Fighters and ex-INA personnel besides pensions? (a) whether some of the equipment! required for the Centre are to be imported; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTR Y OF HOME AFFAIRS (b) whether more sophisticated and (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): well-equipped sbip better than m. v. Fin (a) and (bi. At persent the amount of Polaris has been developed for such purpose pension under tbe Swatantrata Sainak by a shipyard 'in West Germany; and Samman Pension scheme. 1980 in respect of the living freedom fighters (including (c) if so, the facts thereof and details of tbe ex-INA personnal) is Rs. 300/- p.m. availability of ships for sucb expenditioD, Pension at enhanced rate of Rs. 500/~ p.m. in shipyards located in West Germany and is, however, sanctioned under ceartain further action taken on the fa brication of conditions to freedom fighter who had been an icc-brea ker ? in jail for five years or more. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (c) and (d). The Government bave accepted MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH.. the recommendation of the Non-Official NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS Advisory Committee made in the meetiQI OP OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC heJd on 21.7.84 to raise the quantum ENBRGY SPACE AND ELECTRONICS or Samman Pension under SWatantrata Sainik (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) The details Samman Pension Scheme to Rs. SOO/':' p.m. of equipment for the Antarctica Study with effect from 1.6.1985. Centre are yet to be finalised. (b) Since the name of the ship or the Ce) Most of the State Governments/ shipyard in West Germany has not been Union Territory Administrations are pro rpecified, it is not possible to furnish viding free medical facilities to freedom Icply to this part of the Question. fighters and their dependents, educational facilities to their children in the form of (c) In view of reply to part (b) above, scbolar$bips. books. cash grants and reser question does not arise. vation in the medical and technical institu tions. Some of the State Governmentsl Pension to Freedom Fighters Union Territory Administrations are also giving priority to freedom figbters in 1 S554. SHRI I:NDRAJIT GUPTA: aUotment of Jand, housing boards tenl Will the Minister of the HOME AFFAIRS ment, aDd fair price shops etc. 65 "'rltt", "4",..,.,, VAISAKHA 11.1907 (SAK~) Police Seminar on CaleF of Rape fa clandestine dealings in banned items Ulce Police Co.totl,. furs and skins of endangered species inclu ding the near e~tinct snow leopard in 5555. PROP. NARAIN CHAND Srinagar and other parts of India; PARASHAR : Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to sta te : (b) jf so, the details thereof; (a) wether the attenrion of Government (c) the reasons why Government have has been drawn to a leading article publi so far not been able to check such dealings; shed in the Telegraph (Calcutta) dated 2 and April, 1985 with the caption 'with every promotion we Jose a little of our spine'; (d) the steps taken/proposed against the unscrupulous traders who deal in such (b) if so, the reaction of Government ilJagal items? to the contents of the reports about the Police Seminar especialJy on the cases of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rape in police custody; and MINISTRY OF ENVIRONl\IENT AND FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) to (C) 1he steps taken or proposed to be (d). Information is being collected and by to taken Government streamline the will be Jaid on th,:! Table of the House. functioning of police and inspire a sense of confidence among the police officers? (Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Steps to Check Felling of Trees and (SHRIMA TI RAM DULARI SINHA) : Tbeft of Wood (a) Yes, Sir. It appears that the article refers to a seminer on Police-Community 5557. SHRI LALA RAM KEN: Will Relations which was held in Bombay in the PRIME MINJSTER b-:- pkas('d to January 1985 by the Maharashtra Police sta te : under the aegis of the Bureau of Police Research and Development, Ministry of (a) whether incidents of felling of trees Home Affairs, Government of India. and theft of wood have been continuously taking place in Rajasthan, particularly in (b) Topic on custodial rape of women Bharatpur district like other parIs of· by policemen did not come up for discus the country due to which the environment sion at the above Seminar. has completely changed, rainfall is less than before and the level of Wc\ ter in we IJs has (C) "Police" being a State subject, it been going down as a result of which is for the State Governments to take steps problem of drinking water is becoming in the matter. National Police Commission acute day by day; had made recommendations in this regard and its reports have been sent to the State (b) if so, the arrangements made to Governments (or taking necessary action. check the felling of trees and theft of The Governments of India have also been wood; and providing Central assistance for modernising the State police forces. (c) the number of saplings in thousands. proposed to be planted every y~ar under the Clandestine Dealings in Banned Items Intensive Forest Development Schemes Like Furs and Skins . in this region? SSS6. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: THE MINISTER OF STATE TN THE Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND state : FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) ; (a) to (c). Information is being colleclcd from (0) whether Government have informa the State Government of Raja~th:\:l and tion ·about upprooedented spurt in the will be placed on the Table on the Sabha. 61 Written ..4111"'" MAY 8,1'85 (Bng/llk] VrindavaD. R.oliable statistics of tourists anDualJy visitiol tbese contres are Dot Vayudoot Senkes to Places of Historical avaiJable. RDd Commercial laterest (b) aud (c). The State Government 5558. SHRI P. PENCHALLIAH: Win has set.up at tbe Central Government the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL iostance a registered society named Braj AVIATION be pleased to State: Bhumi Samrakshan Aur Vikes Samiti for (a) whether Government propose to eonserva tion and development of art cui .. increase and improve Va) udoot services to ture" literature and traditjons of Draj .. far flung areas of historical and commercial bhoomi. The society is also responsible interest irrespective of whether these are for identifica tion and coordination of economically viable or not; 811d various projects for the development of tourism ion this area. (b) whether Government will also pro pose to provide subsidised services to far The construction of a Ras Lila stage flung places not connected by road/rail? at a total cost of Rs. 1.15 lakhs in Gover dhan Parikrama was sanctioned by the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Central Government during 1984-85 and a MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL sum of Rs. J .00 lakh was released to the AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): State Government as advance. (a) and (b) .' No. Sir. A master plan for the development of [Trandation] Brajbhoomi Parikrama has been prepared and proposals within the framework of the Beautification of Matbura and Adjoining development plan would be taken up durina Places of Historical Importance the Seventh Plan Period with the consul tation of the State Government. 5559. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to sta te : (a) whether a large number of tourists Facilities for Training in Hotel from al1 over the country and ilbroad visit Management Mathura, the birth place of Lord Krishna and adjoining places such RS Vrindavan 5560. SHRI P. K. THUNGON: Will and Barsan3, etc. in Uttar Pradesh every the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL year; AVIATION be pJeased to state: (b) if so, the:steps taken by Government (a) whether there are adequate facilities during the last three years, keeping in view for training personnel in hotel management; the religious and historical imporlance of and these places, to ensure progress of the area by incouraging tourist traffic there; and (b) if so, bow many such Government (c) the details of the steps proposed to and private recognised insitiutions are be taken by Government in the coming there, names thereof? years for the beautification of Mathura and adjoining pJaces of historical importanco THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and for the development and renovation MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL of old historical temples and other worth AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : seeing places there? (a) and (b). Apart from tbe existing facilities for trainiog in botel management THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by some hotel chains for their own person MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL nel, tbe Central Government has set up 11 AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : Institutes of Hotel Management, Catering (a) A large number of tourists, both Technology & Applied Nutrition and 12 foreis" and domestic, visit Ma(hura and Foodraft l!lstitutes at the follQwiDS place. : 1d Institutes of Hotel Management '0 grow more -trees in and outside areas declared as forests. The afforestation (1) New Delhi, (2) Bombay, (3) Madras, effort is beina stepped up substantially. It (4) Calcutta, (5) Srinagar, (6) Ahmeda· is proposed to bring 5 million hectares of bad. (7) Hyderabad, (8) Bhubaneswar. land every year under fuelwood and fodd~r (9) Bangalore, (10) Lucknow and (11) Goa. plantation. A people's movement is to be developed for afforestation. Foodcraft Institutes (b) Yes. Sir. (1) KaJamassery, (2) Pune, (3) Chandi· garh, (4) Bhopal, (5) TiruchirapaUi, (C) A considerabJe section of the rural (6) Jaipur, (7) Palna, (8) DeJhi, population including Adivasis Jiving in or (9) Aligarh, (10) Shimla, (11) Visakha near forests depend on the forests for their patnam and ('2) Guwahati. liveJihood. (d) and (e). It is not the Government's Having regard to the rising future demand policy to clear forests for increasing for hotel accommoda tion of various cultivable land. Some forest lands categories, there is need for increasing the are being encroached upon for number of such institutes and (or streng cultivatjon. All possible steps are being thening the existing ones. In the 7th Plan taken for the protection of forests under it is proposed to set up five more institutes the various Jaws. A number of afforestation of hotel management and ten more craft programmes are being taken up as part of institutes. The Central Government has the Seventh Plan. A major a {foresta tion not accorded recognition to any private programme is being undertaken, including institution off\!ring courses in Hotel the planting of 5 million hectares per year Management. for fuel wood and fodder plantation. Forest Development Promotion to key Puoch Operators in Delhi Police 5561. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to 5562. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL : state : Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the reply given to Un· (a) details of grow more tree polity of starred Question No. 2464 on 8 August, Government; 1984 regarding recruitment rules for pro motion to key punch operators in Delhi (b) whether Government have launched Police and state; Forest Development programme in the (8) whether the recruitment rules as country; promised as far back as 2nd May, 1984 have been framed for giving promotion to (C) whether most of the rural population tht key-punch operators in DeJhi Police and particularly adivasi population depends who have been working in that post for a only on forest and they earn their Jong time; livelihood frorri forest; (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and (d) whether forest are being cleared in the country to increase the cultivabJe land (c) the time by which the promotion in the country; and is likely to be given to them? (e) if so. the steps being taken for the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE protection of foresr and for the develop MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ment of forest in the country? (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) to (c):" The draft recruitment rules have THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been framed by Delhi Police and sent to MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Delhi Administration for further processing FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (8) It is and obtaining approval of tbe Administra part of tbe forest policy of the Government tor, DeJhi. ,'~ >') ~ 71"'" Writte" A"$wers MAY 8,1985 Promotion of key Punch.Operators can [EnlUsh) be considered on1y after recruitment rules are finaliz ... d. aud in uccordan(;e Wilh the Fiats. H 01tis aod Stadia Construcaed for approvtd rccfuilmenr rules. Asian Games SS64. SHRI V. SOBHANAREESH- lTrolls/ation) WARA RAO : Will the Minist"r of YOUTH RegistratioD of a Case of Fake Certificate in AFFAIRS AND SPORTS be pleased to state: Khadi Gramodyog Bbavan, New Delbi by COl (a) the number of Stadia constructed for Ninth Asian Games and the amount 5563. SHRIMATJ VIDYAWATJ sp~nt on each of them; CHATURVEDI: \\t'ill the PRIME MINISTER b(; pleased to state: (b) lhe number of hotels constructed to meet the demand that was expected during (a) whether the Central Bureau of Asian Garnes and the amount invested on Investigation have recently registered a those Hotels; and case of the Khadi Grnmodyog Bhavan, New Delhi in connection with a fake (c) the nUr.:lber 0 f fla ts constructed by certificate; and the DeJhi Dtvelopmtnt AUfhority in l\,:j} necHon wilh Asian Games and the anJount spent for it? (b) if so, the:: tjm~ b)' which the C.B. I. is likely to complete investigations of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cas~ and submit it for further action? DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFfA1HS AND SPORTS (SHRJ R. K. JA1CHADHA THE }.1INlSTER OF STATE IN THE SINGH): (a) A statement showing the MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND cost incun ed on constr uction of new ~tadi8 TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE. is attached. FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART (b) and lC). ConSlJUcti0n of hotds, MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K P. SINGH compkx of residenlial flats used as Asian nEO) : (u) Yes, Sir. Games Village etc. \\ere part of lhe nOI mal development works of the concerned (b) Subject to availability of documents, agencies. some of which weH~ advanced the invest:~~t~iUfl may be \:(.\mpkted within with a view to be us, fuJ during A, ian six months. Gamet 1982. Statement S. No. Item AntIcipated Expenditure (Rs. in crores) 2 3 _----_._..... _ .. _--_...'_ 1. Cons.truction of Stadium at Lodhi Road, Lawn Tennis Stadium at Ha~z Khas and renovation of National Stadium. 23.95 2. Government share towards Indoor Stadium at Rajghat Sports Complex. 9.82 3. Construction of Cycle Velodrome at Rajghat Sports Complex. 1.43 4. Construction of Shooting .~anges. 1.61 5. Government contribution towards Swimmiol Pool at TaJkatora Garden. 6.27 4308 W,ltlen Answers (Translation) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF PERSONNEL AND CODstruction of a Sports Stadium in TRAINING. ADMJNISTRATIVE RE· BaDswara FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART 5565. SHRI PRABHU LAL RAWAT: MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH Will the Minister of YOtJTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS be pleased to state; DEO): (a) to (c). The Government are aware of the existance of imbalances in the (a) whether it is proposed to build a promotion prospects of different All India sports stadium in Banswara; Services Cadres. The Estimates Committee (1983·84) of the Seventh Lok Sabha had (b) whether it is under consideration Jooked into this problenl. The Committee of Government to start any ~pecial pro in Chapter V of its 77th Report .. has recom gramme for encouraging such youth to monded that this Department should study take part in games as are lagging behind the problem of ilnbalances in promotion in areas predominantly inhabited by tribal prospects of All Indja Services Cadres in people; and depth and find efTectivt! ways and means to correct th~ imbaJances. In pursuance of (c) j f so, the detai Is thereof? this recommendations, this Depaf(m~nt THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have decided to set 'up a bigh-power Com DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS mittee consisting of SQlne Secretaries to the AND SPORTS (SHRI R.K JAICHANDRA Government of India and some Chief SINGH) : (a) No proposal (or constructing Seeretaries to the Sta te Govcrnlnents to a sports stadium at Banswara has been study inll"r.a/j(J the probkm of imbal- received from the State Gov~rnment so ances in promotion prospects of different far. All India Services Cadres and to recom mend the steps to be taken to correct these (b) and (c). Under the Scheme of ilubalances. grants to S ta te Sports Councils, Sta te Governments/Union T~rritories Adolinistra News-Item Captioned hCurtridges Haul lions have been alre:tdv requested to ensure from Illegal Uoit" that as far as possible, percentage of sports facilities allocated in tribal areas should 5567. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD not be Jess than tribal population of the SINGH: WiJl (h~ Minister of HOME State/Union Territory. Tribal population AFFAI RS be! pleased to sta te : is also covered under the schenles of. All India Rural Sport Tournaments and Sports (a) whether attention of Governments has Tabnt Search Scholarships. A new scheme been drawn tothe news itenl "Culuidge of promotion of sports in outlying areas hauJ from jl!egaJ unit" appearing in the is also proposed. "Hindustan Times" of 19 April, 1985 high lighting the running clandestinely of an [English] ammunition manufacturing factor in Promotion Prospects or alilodia Service Alipore area of North Delhi, seizure of Jalge quantity of znatcriaJ used in the Cadres manufacture of live ammunition, gcttinS unauthorised power connection etc; 5566. SHRIMATI PHULRENU GUHA : Will the PRIME M[NISTER be (b) if steps to be taken pleased to state: so, proposed to check tbe existence of such type of (a) whether there are imbalances in the other clandestine factories, the supply of promotion prospects between different raw materials. outlet sources and the cadres of the AU Iodia Services; l'eopJe connected wieh it in the electricity department; and (b) if so, the detaiJs thereof; and (c) the steps taken/proposed to be (C) action taken against the gun house: taken to correct the imba lances? in FJlmistan area? 75 THE MINISTER 'OF STATE IN THE its inception upto 31.3.85 are of the order MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS of Rs. 27 lakhs. (SHRIMA TJ RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) Yes, Sir. ' The contractors have employed 35 persons in the restaurant. Since the (b) The State Governments have been restaurant is operated by a private party. requested from time to take sustained and the service condi tions of the employees arc effective measures to unearth unlicensed regulated by tbe contractor. weapons and to prevent illicit manufacture. Arms Act, 1985 was also amended vide Deploymeot of C.I.S.F. io State Arms (Amendment) Act, 1983. Under the amended provision: of the Act, punishment 5569. SHRI DEBI GHOSAL: Will for offences involving sale manufacture. the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be and possession illicit arms has of been pJeased to state: enhanced. (a) what is the present strength of the (c) Information is being collected. Central Industrial Security Force; Contract of a Restaurant of Asbok Hotel (b) the crime prone areas in which to a Private Party large deployment of C.I.S.F. has been made; and 5568. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: (c) state-wise break-up of the present Will the Minister of TOURISM AND deployment of C.I.S.F. 1 CIVIL AVIATIO~ be pleased to stale: THE MINISTER OF STATE THE (a) whether one of the re~taurant in IN Ashok Hotel. New Delhi has been given on MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS contract to a private party; (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) 42,077 as on 1.4.1985. (b) if so, the terms and conditions of (b) The deployment of CISF in public the contract sisned between the manage~ sector undertakings is made after a survey, ment and the contractor; which includes, Inter-alia, the criminal activities of the area. The CISF is inducted (c) the total saJe of the restaurant after for ensuring better protection and security the same h'id been given on contract; of t he undertakings, in accordence with the (d) the total number of employees prOVisions of the CISF Act. The CISF is employed by the contractor and the service deployed in each undertaking on the need conditions applicable to the employees; based pa t tern. and (c) The information is furnished in the (e) the reasons for contracting out the attached statement. restaurant to a private party? Statement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN .THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL State-wise B'~Qk-up 0/preaenl Deployment 0/ AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): CISF (a) to (e) Keeping in view the business interests of the Ashok HoteJ, ITDe has State Present Deployment given one of tbe restaurants serving Chinese food to a firm of Indian nationals on 1 2 profit-sharing basis for 5 years commencing from 15-1-84. The contractors wiJl take Andhra Pradesh 2462 65% of the sales and bear the cost of raw materials/gas used in the kitchen and meet Assam 924 salaries and wag~s of the staff. 350/0 of the Bihar 8933 ' sales will go to Ashok Hotel. Delhi 673 The sales of the said restaurant since Oujarat 984 " V AISAKHA 18, 19(,7 (SAK.4) W,'lten Anlwerl 78 1 2 (8) whether it has been brought to the notice of the Government that a number of Indians in the gulf counrties are violat Haryaoa 631 ing immigration and labour rules of these J&K 271 countries; and Rerala 1733 Karnataka 578 (b) if so, the number of such instances reported to Government during the last Maharashtra 1071 three years ? Ooa 2SS Madhya Pradesh 5570 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF' EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Nagaland 132 (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): Orissa 2785 (a) Yes, Sir. 421 Punjab (b) Information is being coJlected. Rajasthan 1467 Issue of Passports aDd Demand of more Tamil Nadu 1768 Posts in Regional Passport Offices U t ta r Pradesh 3678 5571. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : Welt Bengal 7741 Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pJeased to sta te : Total 42077 (a) the total number of passports issued Passport at Note : The above figures include per by the Regional Offices sonnel posted in the ClSF Trivandrum, Cochjn and Calicut since Headquarters. Zonal Head 1982 year-wise; quarters, Group Headquarters, Training Institutes, and (b) sanctioned strength of personnel in Reserves. th-=se offices and number of vacancies unfilled; and Violation of Immigration Rules in Gulf (c) whether there has been demand for Countries by Indians sanctioning more posts? ~~70. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS state: (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): (a) Office Year 1982 1983 1984 (i) Cochin (including Liaison Office, Trivandrum) 1.49,043 ) ,49,789 1.20,668 (ii) Calicut 96,754 91,829 65,340 19 Wrltt&Ut AnllHrl MAY 8. 1985 Written A"8Wf1 80 (b) Categories of posts Cocbin Calicut (including Liaison (Kozhikode) Office, Trivandrum) Sanctioned VacantI Sanctioned VacantI Excess Excess -.._._,.---_--- ...... -~ ...... ----, 1. Passport Officer/Assistant Passport Officer 4 2 1 2. Public Relations Officer/ Superintendent 6 1 4 3. Asstt.( DC/LOe 97 Excess 9 49 Excess 26 4. Peons, etc. 11 1 6 Nil ~._ -----._ "' .. --~ ... ----.... -~-...... "- ...... ------.. _------__,- -- -.--~""_"'-"" ----'--_ NOTE: As a resuU of recent examination of the staff requirement of various Passport Offices all over India on the basis of prescribed norms vis-a-vis sta tist ics of WOf k for 1984. it has been obsCI ved tha t our Passport Office at CochiD and Kozhikcde (Callcut) have got an excess of 9 and 26 respectively in the category of clerical staff. Necessary Government orders posting personnel to fiJi up most of these vacancies and transfer ring extra staff to other offices where there is shortage of clerical staff nre under issue. (c) No, Sir. break up is as follows: Persons Killed! Murdered In Chandlgarh Name of district No. of persons and Punjab killed/murdered ---.. ~. --,... - -.---~--,.. ... -, - --,----- 5572. SHRIMATf GEETA MUKHER J. JaJandhar 21 JEE: SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : 2. Amritsar 27 Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 3. Gurdaspur 104- be pleased to state: 4. Hoshiarpur 12 (a) the number of persons kiJJed/ S. Kapurthala 5 murdered in Chandigarh and State of Punjab during four months i.e. November t 6. Patiala 19 1984 to February, 1985 (figures distrrcf- Sangrur 20 wise); and 7. 8. Ludhiana 10 (b) in how many incidents of murdersJ ki lIinss those responsible ba vc been 9. Ropar 7 arrested and their number? 10. Ferozepur 21 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 11. Bhatinda 26 MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM Dl.JLARI SINHA): 12. Faridkot 10 (8) and (b). Four persons were killed in the Union Territory of Cbandigarb Total , 192 d~rin8 tbe period and three accused persons have been arrested in three cases. The Government of Punjab have informed In 156 cn s~s registered in connection that 192 persons were killed .during this wi1h incidenls of murders/killings in tbe period in the state. The district wise State, 342 accused have been arrested. 81 W,I"." AIIIwr. VAISAKHA II, J907 (S.4KA) Writlt!IJ Nt.. " 12. Par,tlelpatloD 18 tbe Coaferenee of South initiatives we propose to take in the future. AI". Porellll Mlallten arc the convening of a Sou th Asian' Archaeoloaica I Congress in October 1985 '573. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS and organisa tion of a South Asian MUNSI : Will the Minist~r of EXTERNAL Cultural Festival ia November 1985 on the APFAIRS be pleased to state: occasion of the India International Trade Pair. (8) whelher Government are participat Malntenaace of Centrally Protected in. in the Conference of Soutb Asian MODuments In Karnataka Foreian Ministers at Thimpu in May, " 198.5; 5574. SHRIl-l. G. RAMULU: Will the Minister of CULTURE be pJeased (b) if 80. the alenda of the meetin.; to state : anti (a) the amount spent on the main (C) the special points which India tenance of the Centrally Protected propose to mention to persuade the other monuments in Karnataka during Sixth Plan countries to accept better economic and period; and social cooperation among the nations in South Asia '1 (b) which are those monuments? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTR Y OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE.. (8) Yes Sir. The Government of India are FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES participating in the Third meeting of AND PENSION AND I~l THE DEPART Foreign Ministers of South Asian CouDtries MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P .. SINGH to be heJd at Thimphu in May 1985. nBO): (a) The amount spent on the maintenance of protected monuments in (b) The main items in the agenda of Karnataka during the Sixth PJaJ1 period is tbe meeting inc1ude a review of the pro Rs. 1.00,06,531. Iress in the implementation of the Integrated Prosramme of Action, prepara (b) A List is laid on the Table of the tions for the First SARC Summit and a House. review of the world economic situation. [Pla~ed /" Library. See. No. LT-I106/85} C,clone Radar at Casta) Areas or (c) India bas been playing an active Aadbra Pradesb part in promotinl South Asian Re8ional Cooperation. It hosted the first meeting of ~S7S. SHRl C. SAMBU: Will tbe Foreign Minilters in New Delhi in AUlust PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state:' 1983 when the SARC Declaration wal lilned and the Integrated Programme of (a) whether there is any proposal with Action was launched. It held the Chair Government to install cyclone radar manship during the crucial first year· and warning stations at ChiraJa and coastal also hosted the First Meeting of the SARC area of Andhra Pradesh; Standins Committee. India is the Chairman (b) bow many such radar stations or the Technical Committees OD Meteoro- have already been set-up since 1983; and 101' and Sports. Arts and Culture. It has participated in tbe meetings of aU (c) the total Dumber of such stations Technical Committees and bas made an aJong the coast of the entire country active contribution towards tbe formula including Andaman and Nicobar Islands? tion and implementation of programmes of cooperation in ,·arious fields. We propose THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to continue our active participation in all MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO SARC activitiel. We are Jayinl specIal LOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS rmphasis on the need for formula tina OF OCEAN DBVELOPMENT. ATOMIC concrete feltonal projects in tbe .arced BNER.GY. SPACB AND ELECTRONICS. areas of cooperaUop. AlDODS the specific (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) (a) No Sir. 8S WrlU,,, An,",r, there is no proposal to instal) Cyclone minimi!e the oetlJrrence of 'to'ta} COft1mnn; radar station at Chiraia. Coastal areas of cation link fait12re. Andbra Pradesh, including the Cbirala area. have already been provided with adequate (Trtms/alioll) radar coverage for cyclone detection. Problem of Forest Fire. (b) Nil. The entire network of cyclone detection radars covering east coast was 5577. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR completed before 1983. TRTPATHI: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (C) There are 8 numbers of such stations at Calcutta, Paradip, Visakhapatoam, (a) whether Government are giving very Machilipatnam, Madras and Karaikal on the serious thought to the problem of forest Bast Coast and Goa and Bombay on the fires; West Coast. There is no cyclone detection radar in Andaman and Nicobar Islands. (b) if so, whether Government are Most of the cyclones originate between formulating any joint project to check it; Andan.ans and the east coast of India and and travel away from Andamans and Nicobar (c) if so, the time by which this Islands. The Andman Islands and the Bay of project will be ready and annua I expendi Bengal surrounding are well covered by ture involved therein? INSAT weather surveillance. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Computerised Reservation System at MINrSTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Airports FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) Yes, Sir. SS76. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN : Will tbe Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL (b) A project entitled 'Modern Forest AVIATION be pleased to state: Fire Control' has been formulated for the (a) the names of t he Airports where States of IlUar Pradesh and Maharashtra computerised Reservation syst~m haf\ been at an estimated cost of Rs. J2 7 crores commissioned; inclusive of UNDP assistance of US$4.11 , milJions. (b) whether there have been frequent break downs in the computerised Reser (C) The project ha~ come into operation vation system in some airports; and for 1985 .. 86 (he tOI~tJ outlay is Rs. 163.58 lakhs. (C) if so, (be name of the airports where sllch system has suffered a set back; and (d) the steps talcen to remov~ the Sanction or Extra Battalion of BSF ror bottleneck? West BeDgal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL 5578. 'SHRIMATI INDUMATI AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): BHATTACARYYA : \\In) the M,nister of (a) Indian Airlines has commissioned tbe HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: computerisea reservation system a t Bombay. Delhi, Calcutta and Madras airports. (a) whether there is any proposal to sanction extra ba ttaJion of Border Security (b) to (d). No, Sir. However, there Force for West Bengal; wal one isolated case of breakdown at Bombay airport on 15.4.1985 when the (b) if so. the details thereof; tWQ data circuits between Bombay and C'otnputer Centre at Palam had broken (c) what ;s tbe present posil;'on and down between 00]5 brs, and 1345 hrs. In what progress has been made so (ar in 'he matter; and order to overcome such situations in future one more data circuit is being p'rocured (d) the sfeps taken/proposed to imple. trom P and T Department which would ment tbe 'proposal? THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in the 'Hindustan Times' dated 29 March. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 1985 wherein it has been stated that three (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): persons including a police constable were (8) to (d). Anti·infiltration measures and seriously injured and cash and valuables .trenath of asp are reviewed by Govern worth about several thousands were looted ment from time to time, 5 additional batta in a train dacoity in Amritsar Tata Express lions of BSP were sanctioned by the Dear Karnpul'; Government in 1983 and they are now in operation on West Bengal-Bangladesh (b) if so, the details of tbe incident; border. Constant vigil is maintained by and tbe BSP at the border. Mere bordar out (c) whether any compensation bas posts have been established with· tbe indu .. since been paid to the sufferers; and if not ction of additional battalions. More watch the reasons thereof? towers have been erected and patrolling over land and riverine routes has been THE MINISf,ER OF STATE IN THE intensified. Th~re is no proposal at present MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS to sanction extra battalion of BSF (or (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): West Bangal. (a) Yes, Sir. Threat to Chief Metropolitan Magistrate. (b) The State Governments and Union Delbi Territory Administrations are responsible for enforcing law relating to offences. As 5579. SHRI SHANTARAM per the available information, on 28-3-1985 POTOUKHE : Will the Minister of HOME one Shri B. Mohsis was travelling in 1st AFFAIRS be pleased to s ta te : Class from Delhi to Dhanbad by 162 On. Tata Express. He bad got down to set (a) whether the Chief Metropolitan h.imself some tea etc. at Itava Railway Magistrate, Delhi trying Smt. Indira Station, on his return to the compartment, Gandhi case has been threatened, if so, the 3·4 youngsters also boarded the same nature of such a tinea t; and compartment. There was no attendant or conductor in the compartment. The (b) what action Government have taken youngsters tried to occupy the same com .. in. his regard '1 partment in which Shri Mohsis was travel THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ling to which he objected. With the result MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS that he was attacked by them with a knife. (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (a) They also took away Rs. 1000/- and a Yes, Sir. An anonymous. Jetter threatening mini transistor belonging to Shri Mohsis. his life and the life of his family members The train stopped near Ekdi I due to chain was received by Shri S.L. Khanna, Addi pulling when the youngsters es~aped. A tional Chief Metropolitan Mgaistrate. case under Section 394/397 of the I.P.C. and 108 of Indian Railways Act was Delhi. registered at GRP Ita va. One culpri twas' (b) An armed guard has been posl:::d arrested and efforts are being made to al the resideDce of Shri S.L. Khanna. I r'l apprehend the otbers. addition, two armed personal seCUl i lY officers have also been provided to him. (c) No compensation is paid to the victim passengers for theft of their Tralo DacoUy In Amrltsar Tata Express persona I proper,ty and baggages. Near Kanpur Opening of ne" Uranium Mines 5580. SHRf C. MADHA V REDDI: SHRI DHARMPAL SINGH MALIK: 5581. SHRI K, PRADHANI : Will the Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: be pleased to state : (a) whether the Department of Atomic (8) whether Gave-roment's atten.jon Energy bas drawn up pro8rammes tor . bas "en drawn to the news Hem 4PpcariDI opcoinS of new uranium mines; MAVI,.tlS (b) jf so, when these new uranium for individual development scheme •. How mines are going to be opeDpd; ever. in determinina the overaH allocation of Central assistance to the State. other (c) whether any IODs-term plan bas than North Eastern States, Jammu and been drawn up for this purpose; and Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh. the existing formula lives 60 per cent weilhtale (d) the steps taken to implemen t the to population. The 1971 popu1alion figures above programmes ? are beina used for computation purpose. THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Hence. the Stales enforcinl population MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND control measures cannot be .aid to be at a TECHNOLOGY AND IN THB DEPART disadvanta8e. MENTS OF OCEAN· DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND Res(ue of Women Forced into Prostitution ELECTRONICS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) to (d). Uranium Corporation 5583. SHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH of India Limited, a Public Sector Under GOSWAMI : Will the Minister of HOME taking under the Department of Atomic AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Energy has drawn up plans for openinl (a) whether the attention Govern... up two new uranium mines at Narwapahar of ment has been drawn to the news .. ilC'm and Turamdih both in the Singbbhum which appeared in. ;Statesman' dalcd 12 District of Bihar. Datailed Project Report March, 1985 regarding police rescu\! of f~r this has been prepared and tbe same is three women forced into prostitution; being processed for issue of administrativej financial approval. Work on these mine. (b) number of rescue cases during rhe is expected to commence during 1985-86. years, 198081, 1981-82,1983-84 and ]984-85 Atomic Minerals Division of this Depart year wise details; ment has identified a number of new uranium deposits in various parts of the (c) how many arr~sts took place durina country and exploitation of these deposits su~h operations, yc:arawise details; by opening up new mines will be taken u,J in a phased manner after completion of (d) punitive action resulting in impri feasibility studies. sonment against such arrests, year-wise details; Allocation of Funds for Development (e) if no punishment awarded, the Schemes reasons therefor; (f) punitive action taken against rhose 5582. SHRI MOHAR SINGH persons for dereliction of duty; and RATHORE : Will the Minister of PLANNING be pJeased to sta te : (I) the incumbent Station House Officers of the Kamla Market Police station (a) whether the formulation of welfare duriog these years? schemes and allocation of funds for development schemes is population based; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF HOME AFPAIRS (b) whether, as a result of the above (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (8) formula. the areas Jcadinl in popu)a lion Yel. Sir. control set lower developmental allocation; and (b) The Toeal number of lirls rescued are as under : (c) if so, in what manner Government propose to remove this anomaly? 1980 .. 81 7 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1981-82 16 MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K.R. 1982·83 8 NARAYANAN): (a) . to Ccl. Centra) 1983-84 assistance for Sta te Plans is a1located in 6 the form of block loans and grants and Dot . ·1984·8S 17 VAtSAtcHA .'. 19M (S~CA) (c) and (d). The total Dumber of JOOI.tandinB demands of these Metropolitan persons arrested and convicted arc as citi·cs; aod under: (c) if so, the detaiJs; rhereof ? Year Arrested Convicted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K. R. 1980-81 13 NARAYANAN): Yes, Sir. J981 .. 82 29 2 (b) aDd (c). Urban development i. • 1982·83 8 Stare subject and it is the State Govern 1983·84 11 ments concerned lha! formulate schemes 1984.. 85 18 and programmes for urban development _,-----,------.----_ ..-.-----'_ -~~. -. ~- ~ -----_.--- includinl those for metropolitan cities lit. Bombay, Calcutta and Madras. The Centft, (e) and (0. Some of the rea SOD'S on however. provides block grants and loans account of which tbe 8ccu~ed are not to the States in tbe way of Central punished by the Courts, are 8S under: assistance under the Gadail formula. (i) Tbe prosecutrix often do Dot come forward to narrate the events Dacoities 'n Banks factually in the court during trial. 5585. SHRf RAM BAHADUR (ii) The witnesses either on account of SINGH: Will the Minister of HOME pressures from the accused or for AFFAIRS be pleased to state: some consideration either do noC appear at all in the court durin, (a) the number of dacoi ties in banks trial to support the prosecutio~ which could be solved upro 31 .. 3·1985 in version or turn hostile. Delhi; (g) The following Inspectors remained (b) the number of- persons arrested for posted as Station House Officers at Poli~e Station Kamla Market during the period bank dacoities; mentioned against each : (c) the total amount involved in bank 1. Shri Darshan Sing'h dacoities so far and the amount recovered Inspector 16-2 .. J 980 to 30·6.. 82 so (ar from the persons so arrested; 2. Shri Virender Singh Inspector 1-7-1982 to J 8 .. 2·85 (d) the reason of the failure on the part of DeJhi Police in solving bank 3. Shri Kawai Krishan Inspector 18.2.1985 to date d&coities and apprehend the robbers; (e) what special security measures have Resources of Metropolitan Cities been taken to avoid bank dacoities in S584. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: future; and Will the Minister of,PLANNINO be pleased (fJ whether it is proposed to set up a to state: special celJ of bonest and efficient persona (8) whether Government arc . aware in Delhi police to deal with bank dacolrie. that tbe local corporations to whIch the and if so, the details thereof? administration of Metropo~itan cilies like Bombay, Calcutta and Madras is entrusted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to find their resources too inadequate to MINl~TR Y OF HOME AFFAIRS meet tbe srowing demands of thost: cities; (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (8) and (b). The number of bank dacoities (b) the effective steps the PlaDnioa . ~hich could be solved and persons arrested Commission propose to take to meet t.be ·9.1 as on 31-3-1985 are as follows: branches which remain open .after the SUD-set. Year Cases Cases Persons reported worked arrested (vi) Static pickets equipped with arms out and wireless sets have been poste~ at strategic points. Day and nilht 1984 4 1 3 patrolling has been intensified and the staff put is being properly 1985 2 briefed. (upto 31-3·85) (vii) Attempt ~ are being made to have better coordination with tbe neigh.. (c) The total amount involved in bank bouring Districts by exchange of dacoities and the amount recovered is al intelligence pertaining 10 the follows: activities of criminal s. India's Role in Promotiag Sporls la Nepal Year Amount Amount involved recovered 5586. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE Will the Minister of SPORTS AND 1984 Rs.987413/- YOUTH AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 1985 Rs. 416250/- (a) whether India has agreed to help (upto 31-3-85) Nepal in pt omoting sports in that country; and (d) By the very nature of such offences. their investigation takes time. All possible (b) if so, the details thereof? eftol ts are being made for early completion THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the investigation of these easel. DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS (e) and (f). The following steps have AND SPORTS (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA been taken to avoid bank dacoities : (SINGH) : (8) While there is DO sports agreement with th! Gov~rnment of Nepal. (i) A Special Cell has been created in Government of 1ndia bas been heJping the Delhi Police, manned by Nepal in the promotion of sports. specialJy selected officers who are not experienced but also known (b) The main fidJs in which India ha3 for their investigative abilities. assisted Nepal are: (ii) A contingency plan is being pre .. (i) provision of training facilities to pared to reduce the response time Nepali coaches to attend Diploma of th~ police. Courses in Coaching at tbe Netaji . Subhas National Institute of (iii) Banks have been advised to have Sports; an alarm system outside the branches to alert the neighbours (ii) deputation of coaches to Nepal and passers by about the Com .. for assistance in organising mission of any crime so that National/International Competi. police could be informed weB in tions, seminars and clinjcs etc; time. (iii) conducted a coaching camp at (iv) A system has been adopted under Pa·tiala for selected Nepalese which borders are scaled and aU gymnasts; fleeing vehicles checked in case a report of commission of any such (iv) supplied equipment for conductiDI crime is received from allY part of South Asian Federations Games the city. on returnabJe basis; \v) Banks have been advised to make (V) offering facililies for conducting special arrangements in case of coachina camps/clinics to Nc;p~1 VAISAJeifA Jt.'ifo7 (SAKA) W,ltttn A nswe" and other countries, who are THB MI'NISTER OF STATB IN THE members of South Asian ReJional MINISTRY OF' SCIENCE AND TECHNO·' Co-operation (SARC); LOOY AND IN THE DBPARTMENTS OP OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC (vi) rendering financial assistance for ENERGY. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS~ f he construction of a' sports (SHRf SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (8) Yes, Sir, complex at Pokhra. Government is aware that conlputer manu facturing companies in the part have taken EJection of' Maulvi Mobammed Farooq as advantage of Indian computers. a Member or tbe Rabita Alam-I-I (.lami (b) Such restrictions have been removed by allowing import of certain computers 5587. SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA: on OOL basis. However, the interests of Wi Ii tbe Minister of EXTERNAL AFFA1RS indigenous manufacturers have been prote be pleased to state: cted through 200% import duty. Indian manufacturers will be encouraged to (a) whether he has seen the reports in improve their quality and reduce prices the section of the press about Maulvi further by progressive reduction in import Mohamlned Parooq's election as a member duties in future. of the Rabitn-I-A!ami·I-IsJami whose headquarters is in Jedab Saudi Arabia; and Manufacturing of 3-D TV Sets (b) whether his name was propos~d 5S89. PROF. NfRMAL-\ KUMARI by Sardar Mohamed Ibrahim Khan former SHAKTAWAT President of theso, called Azad Kashmir SHRI RADHA KANTA DIGAL : Governnlent (Pakistan Occupied area of J Will the PRIME l'{INISTER be and K Slate) ? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE l"l THE (a) whether 3-D (Three Dimentional) MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Television sets will soon be manufactured (SlIRI KHURSHED ALAM KHAN) : (a) in the country and if so, the time by which and (b). According to Government'" these sets are likely to come in the market prescnt information, Maulvi Mohammed and the price of thereof; Farooq is not a member of the Rabi la-I Alami-I-Islami whose headquarters is in (b) the names of the companies given laddah Saudi Arabia. According to reports, licences for manufacturing 3 ... 0 television however. his name is under consideration. sets; We have no information as to who has proposed his nam: ? (c) it so, whether they have entered into technical collaboration with any foreign 'country for transfer of technical ExplolratioD by Computer Manufacturiag know-how: and Companies (d) whether such T. V. sets will be SSM. SHRI MAHABIR PRASAD given to some selected schools to add to YADAV: Will the PRIME MINISTER be the knowledge of chiJdren ? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government are aware that MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS aome computer manufacturing companies OF O~EAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC, are us,ing restrictive clause which amounts ENERGY. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) It has to expJoit&t'ion of the country; and come to notice of the Government that one private company has already introduced (b) if so, the action taken or proposed 3-D Colour TV. The price of this set is 10 be taken in this resard 7 approximately Rs. 9300/- MAY 8. 198~ (b) There is no need to have soparate of lac. licence to manufacture J·D Colour TV let. The party can manufacture this item witb (iv) Brood lac is made available 10 lac iu tbe industrial approval obtaincd ror tbe srowers form froms maintained (or manufacture of CTV. this purpose. (b) No, Sir. (C) A~ per existing Colour TV policy foreign collaboration IS Dot permitted. Arrest or Workers In Punjab (d) The usefulness of 3-D Colour TV a. now produ~ed has to be ascertained. 5591. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: There ;, no proposal at present with the Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Government to give 3-D Colour TV sets pl~ased to sta te : 10 Schools. (a> whether a number of workers Production 01 Lac agitating for their demands have been arrested and prosecuted in Punjab durin. ~S90. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: the past two months; Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (b) if so, the number of workers to state: arrested and the reasons for their arrest; (a) the steps being taken by the Union (c) whether these arrested workers are Government to increase the acreaae and beina prosecuted under tbe provisions of number of trees on which Lac grown in the Section 506 IPC which is under the purview tribal belt of Bihar and Madhya Pradesh as of Special Courts Act; and the ptoduction of lac has gone down con. (d) if so, the reasons thereror ? siderably in recent years: and (b) whether Government propose to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB lease out forest plots to different lac MINISTRY OF HOME AFPAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : factories so that they can take suitabl~ measures (or increasing tbe production of atealin. Ihe 1500 years old ancjent idols with several complaints received by con worth crores of rupees in the last week of sumer associations like VOICE aJJegin, JanuarY,1985; compulsory payment of warranty/service cbarges on purchase of TVs ? (b) the number of culprits arrested and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB the action taken against them; and MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS (c) whether under the Indian Archaeo OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC logical Act 1972, police experiences difficul ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS ties in taking action in such case? (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) The reasons for increase in price of EC TV THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sets with effect from 1-1-85 are increase in MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS cost of inputs occassioned by general esca (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : lation aDd increase in exchange rate of (a) No specific place of occurrence/incident the dollar. An increase in excise duty of in respect of the crime bas been indicated. Rs. 112.50 on EC Colour TV sets as a As per available information, it appears result of recent budget has not been passed that the theft referred to in the Question to the consumer but absorbed by EeIL. relates to crime reported at Police Station There has been no reduction in tbe cost Rikab Oanj. Agra on 22nd January, 1985. of components of colour TV sets. FIR Nos. 38 to 40 under section 379/411 of I.P.C. were lodged at PoJice Station (b) The free .warran ty period for Black Rikabganj District Agra on 22nd January. and Whi te and Colour TV Sets sold by 1985. Some" persons were arrested at BCIL is 3 months. Police Station Rikabganj, Agra. during the investigation of the above case. (c) An amount of Rs. 400 is charged as warranty charges to cover a period of 9 (b) Two accused persons have arrested months beyond the free warranty duration in connection with the above theft and dJe of 3 months. matter is under enquiry. (d) Complaints received from Consumer (c) The police is experiencing some Associations are being examined by the difficulties in taking action under the Company. Antiquities and Art Treasures Act, 1972. The difficulties have been brought to the Probe into Issue of Passport to notice of the Archaeological Survey of India. Sbrl Rajendru Setbia Warranty Cbarges for E.C. T.V. 5594. PROF" MADHU DANDAVATE : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 5593. SHRI BANWARI LAL be please to state : BAIRWA : Will tbe PRIME MINISTER be (a) whether it is a fact that when Shri pleased to state: Rajendra Sethia was arrested he was found in possession of 7 passports, one in the (a) the reasons for increa~e in prices name of Shri. Duggar and a confirmed air of Be TV sold by BelL w.e.f. 1-1-85 when ticket; excise and customs duty on imported com ponents have been reduced; (b) if so, whether investigations have been made as to how he had managed to (b) the free warranty period for a get passports in a false name; and black and white colour TV sold by EeIL; (c) if so, the findings of these investi (c) reaBons for charging Rs. 400 to tions ? RI. 600 per year as warranty chacgina THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB for purchase of TVs for after sales service MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS durinl warranty period; and (SHRI KHURSHEED . ALAM KHAN) : (a) Shri Rajendra Singh Setbia was arrestdc (d) how the C,ompany proposes ~o by the Centra1 Bureau of Inestigation 00 Dispute about Land Owatd bl Arcllaeoloaleal 1st March.. 1985. At that time, he was found to be in possession of only one Survey of llldia passport-No. W·900S09 issued at Calcutta on 13-2-85 in the name of Raj Kumar 5595. SHRI DIGVIJA Y SINH: WHJ Dugar. The passport had the photograph the Minister of CULTURE be pleased to of Shri Setha affixed on it. Passport state : ' . No. U-.553383 issued at London on 12-8-83 and another one No. U -716884 issued at (a) the sites and area where Archa. New York on 17 .. 2-34 valid up to U-8.88 eologicaJ Survey of India bas disputes' regarding land ownership; were later recovered by Central Bureau of Investigation while searching the office of (b) in how many of such sites Govcln. Shri Bhagat Ram Thapar, Director, MIS ment registered cases of encroachments; R.K. Agencies Ltd., 23.A, N.S. Road, and Calcutta on 2.. 3·85 of the two, passport No. U-553384 was cancelled and a fresh (c) out of these in how many cases passport No. U-716884 was issued due to eviction bas been effected? change in appearance of the passport holder. THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE MINISTRIES OF PERSONNEL AND Entries in passport No. U-553384 TRAINING, ADMINiSTRATIVE RE FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES showed that Shri Rajendra Singh Setha AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART .. bad earHer travelled on five passports in MENT OF CULTURE fflHRI K.P. the past. These had bc~n cancelled and SINGH DEO) : (a) to (c). Information is being collected. returned to him. Details of Officials/NoD-Officials who Shri Sethia was also in possession of an open international air ticket for sectors visited abroad fot WJJd Lire Training Calcutta-Del hi~Dombay-Ca jro-Geneva -Bom. aod Meeting bay-Calcutta, with RQ (Request) status for Sector Bombay-Cairo for Journey on 5596. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: WiJJ 3.. 3-85. the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (b) Yes, Sir. (a) the names and designations of officials and non-officials who have gone (c) Investigations have revealed that abroad for wild life training and meetings Shri Rajendra Singh Sethia had managed since 1 January, 1981; to obtain the passport in the assumed name of Raj Kumar Dugar with the help of two (b) the da fes, period and purpose of other persons of Calcutta namely, Shri the visits aDd countries visited by each Bhagal Ram Thapar and Shri C.L. Sharma, officiaJ/oon-official separately; and who were well known to Shri Sethiar Furnishing of false information is an (c) whether the officials who visit offence under Section 12(1) (b) of foreign countries are required to submit the Passports Act. 1967. Consequentially, reports and if so, follow-up action taken CBI have registered a case against Shri on such reports ? Rajendra Singh Sethia on 12-3-85 for impersonation and misrepresentation of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE facts to the passport issuing authorities. MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND All the three persons have been charge FORESTS (SHRI VIR. SEN): (a) and (b). sheeted in the court of Chief Metropolitan A statement is laid OD the TabJe of tbe Magistrate, Calcutta for the offences House. punishable u/s 120-8/419/420/468/471 of (Placed in Library. Ste. No. LT.. ] J07/851. IPC and Section 12 of the Passport Act~ 1967. {C) Offj~ers who ar~ deptJte4 fo, forei.u~ t()1 VAlSAK:HA 18.1907 (S.4~.4) 102 visits are required to submit reports on India acquired 9 acres of land 2S years ago return and wherever necessary, follow-up at VaishaH in and around the Mound action is taken. known as 'Raja Vishal Ka Garh' which Requirement of Exit Visas contained Lord Buddha's ashes in a casket; and 5597. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be (b) what schemes, if any, department pleased to sta te : bas for using this 9 acres plot of land ? (a) whether the departing diplomats or foreign travellers do not require exit visas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in India; MINISTRIES OF PERSONNEL AND. TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE (b) whether this has created any FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES problem for the Government; and AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART MENT OF CULTURS (SHRI K.P SINGH (c) whether Government propose to_ DEO) : (a) and (b), An area nleasuring review t'be posi t j on 1 6.85 acres of land around the excavated stupa was acquired by the Archaeological THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Survey of India in 1964, for its proper pre MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFA1RS servation and development. (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): (a) No, Sir. Accredited foreign diplomats leaving India at the end of their tenure do A scheme to landscape the area is not require an exit visa. However, diplo UDder implementation. mats of only one country are required to seek permission before leaving the country. Crimes in Running Trains Due to Darkness . As regards foreign traveJJers. they are 5599. SHRI S.M. BHATTAM; Will required to register themselves with the the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Forejgners Registration Office only if tbey pleased to state the number of crime cases stay in India beyond a certain period of due to darkness in trains, division-wise time. Every person so registered has to between February, '1984 and February, report his departure to the same Foreigners 1985 '1 Registration Office wbere he is registered. (b) No. Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF I-lOME AFFAIRS (c) Does not arise. (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): The Sta.te Governments and Union Terri. tory Administrations are responsible for Acquiring of Land by Archaeological Survey enforcing laws relating to offences. No of India data regarding crimes in running trains. railway division-wise, is compiled. The 5598. SHRI LALITBSHWAR SHAH! : available information relating to crime Will the Minister of CULTURE be pleased cases, during the period of darkness i.e. to state : 7 P.M. to 6 A.M. in trains state-wise between February, 1984 and February, 1985 (a) whether Arcbaeological Survey of is given in statement attached. t03 Written .AnsWer$ MA\' at 198~ 'Written .4nswetl It\4 Statemeat Data RelatiliK 10 Crime CQ.les during the Period of Darkness i e. from 7 P M. to 6 A.M. in Trains Statew;se betHeen February 1984 and February 1985 81. No. Name of Number of Crime cases sta tesjUTs. Robbery in Dacoi ty in Murder in Professional running train running train running train poisoning in running train ------_.. _------_._------1 2 3 4 5 6 1. Assam 8 2. Bihar 3 3. Gujarat 1 4. Kerala 1 5. Karnataka 2 6. M a harashtra 28 3 3 7. Orissa lU 3 1 8. Rajasthan 2 3 9. Uttar Pradesh 2 2 1 ___~ __ "'.L M __.~ ...._------_. Total: 55 13 4 Submerged Harappa Town 1. SEAL-A three headed animal mOlif representing the BuJ1, Unicorn 5600. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: and Goat; and Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 2. Pottery ware, bangles. chank shell sta te : etc. There suggest a date close to (a) whether remains of Harappa town 15th Century Be. have been discovered submerged in Beyt Submergence of the area is jndicat~d Dwarka Island of Gujara t coast; by a massive stone wall built on the bench (b) if so, the details thereof; and in intertidal zone. (c) how far it will go in fiIJing up the (c) These investigations may provide gap in the history? information about the Harappan and lodas Valley civilization. It is possible that THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE further studies on these findings may help MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO~ in reconstruction of tbe past maritime LOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS history, of India. These studies couJd aJso OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC provide information about variations in ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS sea level and climate of the region. (SHill SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Investi .. gation in Bet Dwarika region of Gujarat CODference of Astrologers and Scientists for coast provided evidence of archaeolog'ical Deciding Dates and Festivals remains reportcd!y of late and post 5601. 8HRIMATI USHA CHOWDHARI : Harappan period. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) Reported objects of late Harappan period found in Bet Dwarika are : (8) whether recently few leadinl VAISAKHA .8. 1901 (S.4KA) astrologers and Sanskrit .scholars urged to change the Central aid pattern to Government to call a Conference of States; astrologers and scientists for bringing about uniformity in the dates of fe~tiva)s: and (b) if so, whether tb.: Planning Com mission have expressed their view that (b) if so, the reaction of Government siant projects in the States should be in this regard 'I financed out of the Central Assistance; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the other changes that are MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO· IikeJy to be considered; and .LOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC (d) the time by which a final decision ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS in this regard is J ikeJy to be taken? (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) No Sir. (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI~TRY OF PLANNING (SHIR K.R. House Tax Rebate in Delhi NARAYANAN): a) NOt Sir. 5602. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA; WiJl the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be (b) to (d). Do not arise. pleased to state: Telephone Instrument aod Teleprinters In (a) whether Government have decided to give rebate in the house tax in Private Sector Delhi and other places in those cases in which it is deposited within the stipulated 5604. SHRIMITI JAYANTI time; PATNAIK: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) if so, the amount of rebate offered and the period during which the rebate (a) whether Government have imposed will be available; and restrictions on increasing capacity in (c) the date by which this facility will the areas Jik~ telephone instruments and teleprinters in private sector; be extended to the house owners? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the reasons for imposing such MINISTRY OF \ HOME AFFAIRS restrictions; (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (C) the other te)econlmunica tion (a) The .Municipal Corporation of Delhi materials on which restriction has been have taken a decision to aJJow rebate on imposed for creating new capacity; and property tax payments made withic the time prescribed in the property tax bi lis (d) the detai)~ thereof? for the year 1985-86, provided no arrears are outstanding for period ending THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 31-3-1985. MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS (b) The rebate will be a Howed @ 1 'Yo on the amount payable foe the current OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC year. The rebate will be available till the ENERGY. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS last date for payment mentioned in the (SHRI SHVRAJ V. PATIL) : {a) Yes, Sir. property tax bi J I. (b) The total manufacturi og capacity (C) The rebate has already come into already recomnlended is more than three force w.e.f. 1-4.. 1985. times, the anticipated demand by 1989·90 for telephone instruments. . Chaoge iD Central Aid Pattern to States 5603. SHRI B.V. DESAI: In respect of Teleprinters, the manu SHRI SOMNATH RATH : facturing capacity already recompel1ded Will the Minister of PLANNING be is appreciably higher than the anticipu ted pleased to s ta te : demand during 7th Plan. Teleprinter utilisation is alsso linked to a considerable In respect of remaining items falling in (c) The actu~) number of fami1ies the catagory of terminal equipment. pro economically assisted during the year posals are considered on merit. was 896. (d) The total manufactpring capacity (d) Does not arise. already recommended for EPABXjEPAX is more than three times the anticipa ted Rebabilitatlon of Refugees in Assam demand by 1989·90. 5606. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the In the a rea of transmission, radio and Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased rural automatic ex.change equipment, to state; manufacture a t present is allowed by prj va te sector companies jointly with the Central/ (a) whether a large number of refugees State Sector units holding Industrial are residing on the railway land at Pandu Licences/Letters of Intent subject to the and Maligoang in Assam since the parti condition that at least 51 ~o share wjJl be tion of India; held by the Central/State Government. (b) if so, whether there is any pro However, for the third Electrooic Swi tching posal to rehabilitate them near Pandu System factory the investment of the College; Government would be restricted to 260/0 and technology to be used wiH be the ODe (c) if so, how many refugees have been being developed by the Centre for Develop given land there; and ment of TcJematics. (d) the time by which all of them will Economic Assistance to Tribal Families in be rehabi Jitated ? ADdamao and Nicobar Islands THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 5605. SHRI D.B. PATJL; Will the MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Minister of HOME AFFAIRS he pleased (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): to state: (a) The railway land bas been encroached upon both by locals and displaced persons. (a) the target fixed for 1984-85 in (b) to (d). The Railway had offered Aodaman and Nicobar Islands for giving their land at Pandu at cost price to the economic assistance to tribal families; State Government for resettlement of (b) the nature of assistance given and encroachers but the State Government did the total amount spent by way of assistance; Dot respond. (c) whether the targe has been achieved; Population Ratio of Fema les aod Males and 5607. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN (d) If not, the reasons therefor? MOHANTY : WIIJ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state : THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (a) whether according to latest census (SHRIMATI RAM (OULARI SINHA): report, child aod infant mortality rates of (a) 675 tribaJ families were targetted to females arc bilhc{ than males; 109 VAISAKHA 18, 1901 (S.t4K.t4) Written A",wer.J 110 (b) whether according to the report, by Governmen t to improve the above popullation ratio of females is less tban situation of dependency and monopoly? males; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) if SOt the reaction of Government THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE thereto? AND TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THF. THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRI (a) (u) The child and infant mortality rates SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): and (b). No, have not been workeCl out from 1981 Sir. Prices of colour TV Sets have already Census data. However, according to the started coming down. Most of the brands Sample Registration System, child and of colour TV Sets are readily avaiJable in infant mortality rates of females are higher the market. However, for one or two particular brands, there is a wailing list; than those of mal~s for the year 1981. and in such cases deposit is also requjred. (b) Yes, Sir. (C) There is DO plan as yet by Govern (c) There is no sex bias in the imple ment to put up colour TV Glass Shell plant. mentation of health care delivery to the communify under Family Welfare pro (d) In order to reduce import content gramrnme. The Government views with of coiour TV sets being present Jy assembled serious concern various social evils like in 'he country, the Government has issued dowry system, child marriage, sati pratha, three Letters of Intent for the manufacture atrocities against women etc. A multi of colour picture tubes and has approved niedia campaign has been launched. Radio several parties to manufacture a range of spots and other publicity measures are critical coJour TV components like tuners, being carried out to create awareness in EHT, Deflection yokes etc. the minds of the people for a favourable attitude towards women and t~ejr problems. Allotment of Land to Refugee Families of A number ,of films on various issues like Bihar dowry. child marriage, atrocities against women, changes in role of women etc. 5609. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: have been produced or arc at their different Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be stases of production. pleased to sta te : Price of Colour T. V. (a) whether Government had allotted about 865 acres of land to nearly 300 refugee families and rehabilitated them S608. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : thereon at· Srikrishna pur and other colonies Will tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased of Bihar in 1951-52; to state: (b) if so, whether after transfer of (a) whether prices of colour TVs are some territory from Bihar to West Bengal not likeJ}' to come down as there is acute in 1955, agriculture land of the said shortfall in production owing to dependency rehabilitated p~rsons remained in Bihar on imported ki ts; aod a sma)) portion of homestead land, where they are still Jiving went to West (b) whether the pubJic have to make a Bangal in the district of West Dinajpur ; deposit of Rs. 1000 for registration of a colour TV and have to wait for over 9 (c) whether some (ribars and other months; persons of Bihar have forcibly occupies their land and uprooted them, and the (c) whether there is any plan with dispute arisi ng out of depriva lion .of their Government to put up a coJour TV glass rights over the land is still alive; and shell plant; and (d) if so. stepe taken by Government (d) what steps are beins contempJate4 iQ t~is resard 1 111 Wrltte" ARlIN" MAY 8,1985 112 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB BSF aDd CRPF Battalions la States MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): 5611. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will tbe 580 families (2772 persons) were <8> Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased settled on 2110 acres of land in IsJampur to state: Sub .. division. (b) Yes, Sir. (a) the deployment of BSF and CRPP battalions in different States and Union (C) and (d). The Bihar Government Territories at present; bad informed the Government of India in 1981 that encroachment on these lal"d (b) what is the requisition of demand had been removed and posse~sion of land of the State Governments with regard to restored to the displaced persons. making BSP and CRPF battalions available-, and Vayudoot s~rvice to link Bombay aDd Sbirdl (c) to what extent the demands have 5610. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE been fulfilled and j f not, the reasons PATIL : Wi}) the Minister of TOURISM therefor? AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (a) whether Shirdi in Maharashtra (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): attracts large nUf11ber of devotees through (a) to (c). The CRPF is primarily meant out the year because of the places of for assisting the State Governments in worship therr; maintenance of Jaw and order. The Stat~ (b) whether grea t inconvenience is Governments make requests from time to being experiencfd by the devotees as the time for deployment of CRPP when the rail links ~re not adequate; State Armed Police units are found in adequate. As and ;vhtn such requests are (C) whether requests have been received received, the Central Government analysis by Government to start a Vayudoot service the quantum of force required the serious to link Bombay and Shirdi; and ness and urgency of the situation, the duration for which the force is required (d) if so, Government's reaction etc. and sends CRPF to States taking into thereto? account the demand received and the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reserves available at hand. The BSF is MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL primarily meant for guarding the border AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK OEHLOT): and only when CRPF is not available, tbe (a) Yes, Sir. reserve coys of BSF are utilized for law and order duties. A statement showing (b) to (d). Shirdi is at a distance of deployment of CRPF and BSF in connnec 20 Kms from Nasik which is welJ con tion with law and order duties in States/ nected by road, rail and air. UTs as on 30th April 1985 is attached. Statement Deployment 0/ CRPF ami BSF in connection with Jaw and o~der dUlie3 in Slates and UTs as on 30 .. 4·1985 StatefUl' No. of coys deployed Regular Auxiliary 2 3 1 • ___• _____...... __-_._ .. _ ...... ______~ ___._'_ .... _____ , ___ • __ ... __ .,_~._ ... _ .. __ ' ..____ M. CRPF: Andhra Pradesh 10 A and N IsJancls - 1.3 W,lt,.,. ~"It"r' VAISAKHA II, 1907 (SAKA) 114 1 2 3 --~~-.----- ._----- Arunachal Pradesh 2S Assam 60 6 Chandigarh 15 Delhi 29 2 Gujarat 8 4 J and K 22 6 Manipur 22+1 PI 6 MeghaJaya 6 Mizoram 36 Nagaland 12+2 PIs Punjab 129 Pondicherry 2 Rajasthan 6 Sikkim 4 Tripura 36 Uttar Pradesh 1 West Bengal 10 BSP: Punjab 57 Chandigarh UT 4 Oujarat 4 Tripura S Soaad aDd Light Programme ID Agr. Fort of Rs. 30 lakhs for floodlighting of histori and TaJmabal cal monuments and also for starting of Sound and Light shows a t place of histori 5612. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: cal interest. The locations to be taken up Will the Minister of TOURISM AND during tbe current year are still to be CIVIL AVIATION be pJeased to state: identified in consultation with the State (a) whether there is any proposal under Governments. consideration of Government to iptroduce sound and light programme at Agra Fort (Trans/alion] and Tajmabal; Expenditure on N.Y. Kendras (b) if so, the details thereof; and 5613. SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI: Will (c) if not, the reasons therefor? the Minister of YOUTH AFFAIRS AND THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SPORTS be pleased to state the expendi. MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL ture borne by Government every year (or AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : running Nehru YUV8 k Kendras in the (a) to (e). For tbe year 1985.. 86 the Depart'll country? Glont of TOQrism have ma4c a provisiOQ 115 Written Answer, MA.Y 8, 198' Written .4nlw.,,, 116 THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The State Government however had DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS appointed a Committee under the Chair- , AND SPORTS (SHRI R. K. mansbip of Shri BaJkrishna Ramachandra JAICHANDRA SINGH) : Tht:: expenditure Wasnik for the development of Sinkhedraja borne by the Government for running the in District Buldana. The recommendations Nehru Yuvak Kendras in the country was of the Comm; ttee are presently under Rs. 2.16 crores. Rs. 2.31 crorcs and Rs. 2.75 examinarion with the State Government. crores in the years 1982-X3, 1983 .. 84 and 1984-85 respectively. Enviromental Pollution In Doon-Valley [English] 5616. SHRI GANGA RAM: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: ·'Step! to Make Tourist Resorts Pollution Free" (a) whether it is a fact that because of many factories springing up in the Doon 5614. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Will Valley especiaHy in the suburbs of Dehra the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Dun and Rajpur township, there is alar state : min~ environmenta 1 pollution which has adversely affected the vegetation and animals (a) whether tourists resorts deserve to and human beings of the area. many of be poJ]ution-free on priority basis; ana whom have developed Bronchitis and (b) if so, measures Government propose Tuberculosis of lungs; to take to make Sri nagar , Gulmarg and (b) whether according to the experts Pahargam in the J and K. State poJIution the quantum of water will be reduced so free '1 much that by 1995 even two hours supply will not be possible; THE l\fINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (c) whether due to environmental FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) and (b). pollution and indiscriminate feHing of While tourists resorts, as other areas need trees and mining, the annual rainfall has to be free from pollution, there are no come down to 30"-40" from 90" and specific proposals with the lJnion Govern maximum temperature has gon up from 25 ment to make ~rinagar,' Gulmarg and degree celcius (recorded in earlysixties) to Pahalgam pollution free. 32.5 degree celcius (recorded in early eightees) in the Doon VaHey; and Development of Sinkbedraja as a Tourist Centre (d) what measures Government propose to undertake to check environmental 5615. SPRI MUKUL WASNIK: Will po) lution in the Doon Valley? the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EN IRONMENT AND (a) whether there is and proposal to FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) The envi- develop Sinkbedraja, in District Buldana ronmental pollution caused by a large number which is the birth place of Jijamata, the of lime kilns and other polluting units like mother of Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, as a cement plants, in and around Dehra DUD, centre of tourist attraction; and has caused air pollution adversely affecting the vegetation and the living beings. The (b) j f so, the steps taken thereon? incidence of the occurence of Bronchitis and Tuberculosis of lungs bas, however, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE not been studied in detai1s so far. MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION: (S8RI ASHOK GEHLOT): (b) The question is hypothetical and . (a) and (b). Sinkhedraja in District BuJdana in cannot be said with certainity what will is not one of the centres identified by the happen 10 years hence. Department in consultation with the State . , Government for phased development in the (c) While it is true that micro climatic Centre, State or the private sector. changes have' takeD' place tbereby resultin. If; VAISAKHA 18, 1907 (SAK.4) Written Answer, 11A in increase in temperature and decrease in Artificial Raias annual rainfall, it is difficult to quantify these changes until a detailed time series 5618 SHRI RAM RATAN RAM: analysis of the data is carried out. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINOH MALIK: (d) Being fully conscious of the Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased adverse environmental impact due to defore to state; station and mining operations in the Valley, the following remedial measures are being (a) how far artificial rains have been undertaken :- found successful in the country; (1) Mining operations in the Valley (b) the names of places where experi. have been controlled to a great extent; ments have been conducted for the artificiaJ rains duriag the last three years; (2) The polluting industries in and (c) the future programme chaJked out around Debra Dun are being dispersed to in this regard; and reduce the paritculate a concentration. A ban has been imposed on settj ng up of (d) the funds allocated for the purpose major air poJJuting industries. for the year 1985.86 '/ (3) U.P. Pollution ControJ Board is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB carrying out monitoring of ambient air MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH. quaJity in Doon Valley to assess pollution NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS load; OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (4) A Regional Master Plan is under (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) Artificial preparation to ensure that the natural rain making experiments conducted so far resources in the Valley are optimally have indicated a trend of success. utilised. (b) l)uring the last three years experi .. ments have conducted at :- Activities of Foreigners io Bastar· (Madhya Pradesb) (i) Sirur and Baramati (Semi Arid) regioas of Maharashtra State;' 5617. SHRI MAHENDRA S[NGH: (ii) Around Madras City; SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD : (iii) Lingananlakki catchments area Will the Minister of IIOME AFFAIRS (Karnataka) be pleased to state: (c) In addition to the ongoing experi .. (a) whether the activities of foreigners meots in Maharashtra using salt seeding in the the tribal majority d;strict of Bastar technique, new experiments employing silver in Madhya Pradesh have again become Iodide technique are being planned for in'tensiOed; South India. (d) Rupees Fourteen Lakhs. (b) if so, whether Government are aware of the purpose behind their vi~its; and Plan for Scrapping Certain Nuclear Power Plants (C) if so, the details thereof? 5619. SHRI S. M. GURADDI: Will tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased to THE MINISrER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) whether there is any plan to scrap (a) to (c). Information is being collected the difficult and erring nuclear power and will be laid OD the Table of tbe House. plants; and Wrlttin A.nlW"" 120 (b) if 80, the details, thereof? incurred under the State and Central THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Heads during the Seventh FIve Year Plan MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH for afforestation in hill areas in Uttar NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS Pradesh; OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC (b) whether Government propose to ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS start some schemes in this 'area with the (SHRI SHIVRAJ v. PATIL): (a) No, assistance from internatiooal organisations Sir. All the five nuclear power units are and with foreign aid also; and currentJy operating satisfactorily. (b) Does not arise. (c) if so, the details of such schemes '1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Inter State Boundary Disputes MINISTRY OF' ENVIRONMENT AND 5620. SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN : FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) The Will the Minis~er of HOME AFFAIRS be Seventh Five Year Plan has not yet been pleased to state: finalised. (a) the number of cases regarding (b) There is no proposal to seek assis inter·state boundary disputes pending with tance from interna tional organisa tions for the Centre; afforestation in hill areas of Uttar Pradesh. (b) the reasons for these disputes; and (c) Does not arise. (c) the time by which Government propose to settle them '1 [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Nagpur-Akola-Cbandrapur Vayudoot Service (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): 5623. SHRI BANWARI LAL (a) to (c). Boundary disputes between the PUROHIT: Will the Minister of following States involving territorial TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be claims/counter-claims are pending: pleased to state: (i) Assam and Nagaland; (a) whether there is a proposal under (ii) Maharashtra and Karnataka; the consideration of Government to start (iii) Karnataka and KeraJa; and Vayudoot service from Nagpur .. Akola .. Chandrapur (Maharashtra) ; (iv) Punjab, H\ryana and Himachal Pradesh. (b) if so, whether Maharashtra Govern ment has requested the Union Government These disputes can be resolved only with to start Nagpur-Ako}a-Chandrapur Vayu the willing cooperation of the State doot service; Governments concerned and towards this end the Central Government wjH be glad (c) if so, whether any final decision to extend all assistance to the State has been taken by the authorities in tbis Governments. It is not possible to Jay regard; and down any time limit for resolving these (d) if so, when the said Vayudoot matters. service will start functioning ? lTranslalion[ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Expenditure Likely to be Incurred for MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL Afforestation to U .P. A VIA TION (SURI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) No, Sir. 5622. SHRI HARISH RAW AT: Will the PRIMB MINISTER be pleased to (b) Ycs, Sir. state : (c) The ploposal to operate on this tbe total expenditure likely to be route was not considered feasible. 121 VAISAKHA 18, t9O'i (S-4KA) (d) Does not arise in view of (c) THE MINISTER ::>F STATE IN THB above. MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE.. Centrally Protected Monuments In Orissa FORMS AND PUBLTC GRIEVANCES AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART 5624. SHRI SOMNATA RATH: Will MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH the Minister of CULTURE be pleased to DEO) : (a) The State-wise and year.wise state: break-up of the [AS officers against whom CBI conducted inquiry during the last (8) whether Government have pre three years is as follows : pared master plans for the proper pre servation protection and conservation of the centrally protected monuments located Name of the State 1982 1983 1984 in Orissa; Haryaoa 2 (b) if so. the name of the Centrally protected monuments for \\-hich master Manipur 1 plans have been prepared; and Maharashtra 1 (c) the funds earmarked in 1985-86 for Madhya Pradesh implementation of those Master Plans? 2 Bihar 2 MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND Punjab 1 TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE- West Bengal FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES 1 AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART Union Territories 4 1 ,~ " ....,._ MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH ----~--, ...... _----- DEO) : (c) and lb). So far a nlaster plan Total : 11 1 3 for Konark bas been prepared by the Government of Orissa which i~ under examina tion by the Archaeological Survey Investigation has been completed in of India. cases. Seven cases, namely, 2 of Haryana, 1 of Madhya Pradesh, 3 of Union Terri .. tories and 1 of West Bengal have been (C) Funds to the extent of Rs. 16 lakhs have been tentatively allocated for the closed for want of sufficient evidence. 1 Bhubancshwar Archaeological Circle in officer of Manjpur is facing trial as well as 1985-86 for the upkeep of various protected deparf,mental proceedings. The CBI has r~commcded prosecution against 1 officer monuments including Konark. each of Madhya Pradesh and Union [Trans/alion] Territories; departmental action against 1 officer of Maharashtra; and suitable C.D.r. Proble against I.A.S. Offtcers action as deemed fit against 1 officC'r each o~ Bihar and Union Territories. 5625, SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD: (b) No, Sir. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state ~ (C) Does not arise. (a) the Dumber of LA.S. Officers (English] against whom Central Bureau of Investiga-, tion conducted inquiry during the last Exemption from Central Excise Duty of three years, State-wise and the number of those officers who have been found guilty; Certain TI-68 Items (b) whether Central Bureau of investi 5626. DR. C.S. VERMA: WiJJ tbe gation is also conducting inquiry against PRIME MINISTER b~ pleased to state: some I.A.S. Officers in Uttar Pradesh; and (a) whether the department of Electro (C) jf so, the particulars thereof '1 nics has received representation from tho Indian T.V. Manufacturers' Association. of foreign contribution 0.0 barf yearly basis New Delhi to exempt cert:-lin Tf-68 items and to maintain separate sets of accounts rrom the Central Excise duty; a nd records exclusively for foreign contri bution received and utilised calendar year (b) if so, whether his department bas basis and to subm i t such yearly aCCOUD ts taken up the matter with the Ministry of duly certified by a Chartered Accountant Finance; to the Ministry of Home Affairs. (c) if so, whether Ministry of Finance [Trans lat Ion] has given their consent; and Dacoity in RUBnlng Train (d) if so, details thereof and by when 5628. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: • final decision to exempt the Central Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Excise duty on certain TI-68 items is likely pleased to stat~ ; to be taken? (a) whether his attention has been THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE drawn t() the news item appearing on the MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH front page of 'Janasata' dated 14th NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS February. 1985 under the caption OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC 'Dakaiton ne mahila ko chaJti train se ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS fenka" (dacoits threw a woman out of a (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Yes. running train); Si~t (b) if so, the time when Delhi Police (b) to (d). The matter is under came to know about this accident and the consideration of the Government. steps taken to apprehend the culprits; and (C) whether Government propose to Organisations Receiving Foreign take any efJective steps to check increasing Contributions in Tamil Nadu incidents of crime in Delhi and jf SOt tbe details thereof? 5627. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM WilJ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF HOME AFF'AIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (a) the number of institutio~s/o~ganis~ (a) Yes, Sir. tions receiving foreign contnbullons In Tamil Nadu particularly in Tirunelveli (b) Information about the incident District; and was received by the Delhi Police Control Room through Police (b) whether these contributions at 10.58 PM on 10-2·85. On receipt of reeoived from abroad are utilised for the information, the SHO, New Delhi Railway purpose for which they are intended? Station and his staff rushed to the pJace of occurance. A case u/s 395/397 IPC has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been registered. which is under investiga MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIR~ tion. (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI. SINHA).' (a) In 1982 for which computer!sed. da~a IS (c) Delhi Railway Police is providing available, in Tamil Nadu 592 l?stt:utlons! protection to the passengers by way of oraanisations (not being org.a?lsatlons. of patroJling at the platforms and in the political nature not being poit tical partl:s) running trains by sending escorts. having a definite cultural, economIC, educational reJigious or social programme {Engli~'h] sent intimations about receipt of foreign New Method to Collect Information for contributions. Forty such jns~itutioDS~ Progrees or Projects organisations belopg to Tlrunelvelt 5629. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : Will Di strict. the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to (b) Foreign Contributio.ll. (Regula ti~n) state: Act, 1976 requires the recI.plent organl~a (ions to furnish the intima tlon of r.! ';~lpt (8) whether some Gover.oment 125 Written A1I8Wer8 VAISAKHA 18. 1907 (SAKA) Written Anlwer, Agencies/Departments incharge of imple (d) whether any complaint has beea menting various projects are making in received in tbe past a.bout excessive farc ordinate delay in supplying necessary in- .. charged by Air India in any sector; and formation to the National Information Centre and Planning Commjssion on the (e) if so, the details thereof and the progress of va rious projects; action taken on the complaint? (b) jf so, the action taken against such THB M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE Agencies/Departments; MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIAT~ON (SHRI ASHOK OEHLOT): (c) whetner centre proposes to adopt (a) The net profit of Air India during the aoy new method to coJJect Ja test informa last three years, i.e. 1982-83,' 1983 .. 84 and tion regarding the progress of various 1984-85 was Rs. 38.04 crores, Rs. 57.39 projects; and crores and Rs. 34.00 croces (provisional) respectively. (d) if so, the steps proposed to be taken in this regard ? (b) Sector-wise profit IS not worked out in Air India. Route-wise results ace THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE maintained .. A statement showing the route ... MINISTRY OF 'PLANNING (SHRI K. R. wise opera ting profit /(Ioss) for the last NARAYANAN): (a) No, Sir. There is three years, Le. ]982.83, 1983-84 and no inordinate delay in the supply of 1984·85 is attached. necessary information to the Planning Commission by the various Government (c) Fares are fixed as under : agencies/Departments incharge of impk (i) Worldwide, in the International mentation of projects. Air Transport Association (lATA) (b) Does Dot arise. forum, for fares to be applied by all I.A.T.A. Member airlines. (c) and (d). A new monitoring system for Central sector projects costing over (ii) BiJateraJly in regard to Govern Rs. 100 crores each has been introduced ment directed/bilateral fares which recently. Under this system, a brief Flash are based on agreement between Report is sent by the project authorities the two countries concerned. For example, YEI20 USA/INDI concerned through telex/telegrams wi thin AI USA. 3 daxs of the close of the month. After analysis in the Planning Commission, an Output Plash Report is generated on the In both these categories, rationalisation is computer of the National Informatic done keeping various factors in mind such Centre. The Output Report can be accessed as- on the terminals of NIC computer located, (i) The need to protect Air India's among other·,. places, in the Planning' revenue and market share. Commission. . (ij) The need to obtain adequately Excessive fare cbarged by Air India high yields, to cover AJI India's costs. 5630 SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the (iii) The need to cater for ~pecial Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL requirements such as high/low AVIATION be pleased to state: season, distinct categories of traffic, such as students, genuine (a) the profits of Air India during the tourists, businessmen, etc. last three years, year-wise break-up tbereof; (iv) The need to ensure that fares are (b) sector-wise profit in each year; so structured that tbey ate not undercut by other combinations. (c) whether there is any proposal to rationalise fare of Air India; if not, (v) The need to generally gear the realQns therefor; fare to the distance flown. 127 MAY 8.1985 128 There is . no specific proposal under con their associations/Unions in rcgard to fare sideration to rationalise fares on Air India. structure between Gulf and India have since the process of rationalisation is.· con ·been received in the past. Thes: were tinuing process in tbe light of various carefully considered. The air fares between factors such as economic. competitive~ess India-Gulf sector have been fixed multila of the market, operating costs, etc. terally at the International Air TraDsport Association (lATA) forum and ratified by (d) and (e). A spate to representations the concerned Governments, are considered from Keralites living in India or abroad, reasonable, and it is not open to Air India in their individual capacity or through to charge lower fares unilaterally. Statement The route-wbe op~ratl"g projit/(JOJs) 0/ Air India during th~ yeara 1982·83. 1983 .. 84 and 1984-85 . .. -._- --- .-".~ - - ~ - ---~ - -"- Route Profit/(Ioss) in crores of Rupees 1982-83 19S3-~4 1984·S5 Actual Actual Estimated India-U.S.A. (0.52) 067 (4.43) India-Canada (5.50) (9.67) (6.02) India-U.K. (4.03) (4.92) (7.00) India-Continent (9.09) (10.0S) 01.S3) India-Japan (5.92) (0.68) (4.37) India-AustraHa (7.59) (7.28) (6.11) India-Gulf 94.96 119.68 96.86 India-U.S.S.R. 0.37 0.62 2.17 India-Singapore (4.34) (I. 71) 2.47 India-Bast Africa (0.52) (2.11) (1.31) India-West Africa (0.38) (1.32) (2.31) India .. Mauritius (0.50) (0.73) (0.60) India-Zimbabwe ( 1.69) (0.82) (1.36) India-Zambia 0.84 (0.98) (0.S7) India-Bangladesh (0.62) (0.97) (062) FREIGHTER India-Japan 1.11 1.73 3.36 India-U.S.A .. 0 .. 23 1.48 (0.29) India-Europe (0.88) (042) {OAS) India .. U.K. (1.32) 006 (0.54) India-Zurich 0.36 0.42 1 33 Total: 55.73 82.97 57.08 129 Written Answer. VAISAKHA 18, 1907 (SAXA) Written ,4n'w~,., 130 Vayudoot Ser,lces to Tourist PIa ces Bangalore was withdrawD due to Jaw passenger dema rId. 5631, SHRI JAI PARKASH AGARWAL: Wi)) the Minister of (c) and (d). Indian Airlines do not TOURISM A~D CIVIL AVIATION be propose to reintroduce the service as the pleased to sta Ie : exisijng trafIic does not justify such a service for the present. (n) the places of foreigners tourist interest in India where Vayudcot service Traffic Violations Cases in DeIhl Courts has heen started; (b) 1 he places among those which are .5633. DR. G. S . .RAJWANS ; WjJJ the not so connected; Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pJeased to state; (c) the time by which this is likeJy to be done; and (a) whether a large number of cases regarding poljce challalls for traffic viola .. (d) whether he is aware that by losing tjon by motorists are pending set~]cnlent in time in the matter Government are losing lower courts of Delhi; va luable foreign excha nge ? (b) if so, the prescnt po~ilion in this THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE regard; MINrSTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRJ ASHOK GEHLOT): (c) whether Government propose to (a) to (d). Vayudoot was conceived with appoint honorary Magistrates as in the past the objective of connecting inaccessible to clear th e mounting number of these areas of the North-Eastern region and to cases; and link the stations not served by Indian Airlines which are important as centres of (d) if not, steps proposed to be taken trade and comIncrce or fro :, the point of by Government to expedite settlement of view of tourism. The Company has so far these cases in Jower courts ? air-linked 31 stations all over the country iTlc:luding station-; which are important THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE from the point of view of tourism. In ~fINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS addition, Vayudoot also offers facilities of (SHRIMATI RAM VULARI SINHA): charters within India for tourist groups to (a) Yes, Sir. places where la nding strips are available. (b) As on 15-4-85, a total number of 1.72,707 challans for traffic violations were RestoratieD of Air Services between Belgam and Bangalore and vice-versa pending in various courts in Delhi. (c) No such proposal is under 5632. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA JYER: consideration. WilJ the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: (d) Delhi Poiice have taken up the (a) whether the air service between matter with the judicial authorities for Belgam and Banga)ore and vice-versa was expeditious disposal of such cases. cancelled; Procedure for Dhlposal of Passport (b) if SOt the reasons therefore; Applications (C) whether Government propose to restors the air-service between Belgam and 5634. SHRI R .. P. GAEKWAD : WiJf the BangaJore and vice-versa; and Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the reply given to (d) if so. when 1 Unstarred Question No. 652 on 20 March, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1985 regarding procedure for disposal of MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL passport applications and to state : - AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) the nubmer of passport applications (b) Tbe airlink between Bc)sam and received by the Regional Pdssport 01licer 131 "'''tt,,. Answers MAY 8, 1985 132 . Abemedabad during January to March; (b) if so the time by which these 1985; television sets will be mad~ available to tbe public? (b) out of the tota1 number of passport applications received by him, the number THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of applicant who were granted passports MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH. within 7 days, 15 days~ one month and over NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS one month from the date of rC"ceipt of the OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC applications; BN~RGYt SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRJ SHIVRAJ V. PATlt); (a) ET and (c) the number of passport applications T. a public sector underttk:ng under the found in~ompJete and how many of them Department oi Electronics formulated a were informed 10 comply with the require scheme to provide MateriaJ Technology ments and within what p~riod; and and Brand Name under their MTB plan (d) whether passport applicants are given so as to make low cost TV Sets available guidallce at the Passport Offic~ counter btfore without compromising on the quality. receipt of applications so that all fOflratiti(. (b) ET and T has commenced test are completed? marketing of f hese sets and they wiJJ be THE M1NJSTER OF STATE IN THE progressively ~ude aVllilnblt.; to the pUblic. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI KHURSHEED ALA~vt KHAN): {Ellg/i.\h] (a) Number of passport applications received by R.P.O. Ahmedahad is as Social Forestry in the Country follows: 5636. SHRIMATI PHULRENlJ GUHA : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to January 1985 7481 stnt~ : how far th~ social forestry in the February ]985 7580 country for which a large amount of money March 1985 4709 is invested, has b:;nefited the rural peoplt' in terms of fuel And fodder? (b) During January to ~.1ar', h, 198~" Passports granted: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (i) within 7 days 45 FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : Fud wood (ii) within 1 month J60 and fodder availability has increased in areas where Sodal Forestry has bc~:n taken (iii) over 1 month 149 up; however the demand is sti II very much (iv) over 1 mouth highlT than availabili ty. (c) 124 cases: (Translatioll ] (i) on the same day if the application was submitted personally; Investigation io sea water around . Dwarlka (il) within 7 days if received by post. 5637. SHRI NARASINH MAKWANA : (d) Yes, Sir. Wi)) the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: [Translation] (a) the findi~g of investigations under .. MaDufacturing of Janata Model taken by the Archaeologica I Depart ment Colour T.V. Sets and Institute of Oceanography in sea wa ters around Dwarika; 5635. SHRI' SATYANARAY AN PAWAR : Will the PRIME MINISTER be (b) when were these opc:rations started pleased to state: and by what time they are likely to be completed and estimated amount of work (a) whether Government ~ad formula yet to be completed; and ted u scheme for manufacturing Janala Model colour television sets; and (c) the amount of expenditure incurred VAlSJJcHA 18, 1907 (SAKA) Wrilten blwrl and J,ikely to be incuned in (utur~ and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TaB whetht!r Government ba V~ rec~ived full MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH report in this regard? NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMBNfS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS f\fINISTRY OF SC(ENCE AND TECH (SHRI SHIVRAJ v. PATIL) ; TotaJ capital NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS expeJ:dHurc ir:C'urred upto March 1985 is OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC about Rs. 390 crores on the five nuclear ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS power ur.its in operation and about (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL); (a) The Rs. 559 crores on the uu; ls under construc Archaeological Department has not und\!r· tion. taken any under sea water survey work. Dr. S.R. Rao, Refired Superintendent Jadia Newzealand Cooperation Archucologha, Archaeological Survey of India uud;;;ltook inv~stigation with logistic 5639. SHRI C.P. THAKUR: Will the support provid~d by tilt) National Institute Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be of Oceanogrllphy, Goa. Work carried out pleased to stote : in Bet Dwarika region off Gujarat coast (a) wether after the recent visit of ft.:veakd archae'v!ogi<:al evidence. These Prime Minister of NewzeaJand to India any h lYe b;!(:n reponed t\.') be of L"H~ anJ Post new grounds have been broken for furtber H H.lppaa peri od. cooperation between India and Newzealand in the fields of trade, commerce and (b) The i Dvest igu lion in the Dwarika politkaJ relations; and region was started in June, 1981. It is not possible, at this slage, to provide the (b) if so, the details thereof? ! I ~( :: I t l '.: 0 f C) n )' ! r i 1:1 \) f i h is work. According to Dr. S R. Rao, 3/4th of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ..;,otk proposed is )oct to be completed. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL~ AFFAIRS (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN) : (c) Indian National Science Academv (a) Yes. (lNSA) sanctioned an amount of Rs. 20.95 (b) Following the recent visit to India iakhs for this c()fnpreh~nsivt! project in July, of the Newzealand Prime Minister, it 1981. The Department of Science and has been d~cided to streogtben cooperation Technology has sanctioned Rs. 11.27 lakhs in various fields such as trade, economic for a p~riod of three years in October, 1984 and technical co-operaticn, culture etc. for th:.' comprc;hcnsh..:! project on Marine Newczaland Prime Minister expressed his Archa~ological studies in Indi:ln waters. desire to impOI I rndian machinery, textiles The National Institute of Oceanography etc. While India ha!> interest in importing (NIO) bas incurr\!d an expenditure of items like paper, wool etc. The Newzea Rs. 5.30 lakhs on thi~ proj:!ct till d:lte. land Government has recently re-opened The details of likeJy expenditure to ~,:oInp' ~le its resident Diplomatic Mission in New the activities at Dwarika are not availah!.--. Ddhi with an eminent person as its High A report on the progress achieved U~).0 Conlmissioner and other supportiRg staff 1982 has been submitted. to INSA by including a Trade commissioner. Dr. S.R. Rao. During the visit, both the Prime [Fnglish] Ministers had an exchange of views on biJatera], regional and international issues Money Spent of Atomic Power Stations leading to a better understanding between the two countries. Our High Commission in N\'!wz~aJaod which was beiDg headed 'by 5638. SHRI E,S.M. PAKEER an Acting High Commissioner is beina MOHAMED: Will the PRIME MINISTER upgraded and new High Commissioner is be pleast"d to' state the total money spent expected to join shortJy. . construction of atomic power stations in the ~ouQtry ? With the stated doslro of the Now- MAY 8, 19is li6 ~ zealand Government to foster a closer ~~UBa;.fU!U 'U of Confidential Reports relationship with India, we may look for provide for assessment at two levels. ward to 8 betterment of our relations with Further. adverse remark:'\ if any. have also New Zealand. to be communica(ed to the Government servant concerned to afford him an oppor Airport at Pondicherry tunity of representing against them. In view of these built-in safe8uard~ in the 5640. Dr. P. VALLAL PERUMAN procedures. there js Ii tt Ie scope for misuse Will the Minister of TOURISM AND of power in wriling Confidential Reports. CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are aware Settlement of Cases of Freedom Figbters tha t the Union Terri tory of Pond icherry from Tamil Nadu is without an Airport; 5612. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: (b) whether Governnlent have an..y Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be proposal to construct one Airport there; pleased to sra te : and (a) whetber a ppijca tions for freedom (c) if so, when it will be constructed? fighters' pension are pending wid! the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Freedom Fighters' Division of the Minisuy MINISTRY O~ TOURISM AND CIVIL fdr a long time and i n ~ome C~l s ...' s. for AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : several years; (a) Yes, Sir. (b) whether su~h pending casts include (b) There are no immed iate plans to cases where the Slate Government con construct an airport in Pondichcrry. cerned has sanctionc:d State GOv'erurnent pension a nd has r (c) 374 cales are pendiDg for want of (e) the names of shrines proposed .to verification reports from the Government be used for such training; and . of Tamil Nadu. out of which 17 cases in wbich reports of the State Government (f) the reaction of Government have beeD received ale under consideration thereto 1 of the Governrnents. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (d) As the cases are finalised on the (SHRI S B. CHA VAN) : (0) to (f) Accord .. basis of the verification reports of the con iog to the availabl\! information, the SGPC cerned State Governments, it is not possi. has provided Rs. 2.50 lakhs in the budaet ble to fix a deadline for settlement of all estimate for 1985·86 and had provided the applications. Every e!fort is. however, Rs. 35,000/- for 1984-85 for imparting beina made for speedy disposal of the 'Sh::tshtar Vidya' to be organised in tbe pending applications. The following steps following Sikh Shrines: have been taken for their expeditious settlement: 1. Sri Darbar Sahib, Amritsar. (i) On instructions from the Ministry 2. Gurdwara Dukh Niwaran Sahib, of Home Affairs, the State Patiala. Governments have set up Special Cells to deal with the applications. 3. Sri Darbar Sahib, Tilran Tarn. lii) The State Governments on advice 4. Gurdwara Sri Fatehgarh Sahib, of the Centra] Government have Sirhind also set up Committee at District/ 5 Gurdwara Sri Guru Teg ~ahadur State level to advise for verifica. Sahib, Jind. tion and scrutiny of claims. 6. Sri Darbar Sahib, Mukhar. (iii) The Government have also set up 'a Non-Official Advisory Com 7. Gurdwara Sri Ber SahIb Sultanpur mittee at Central level to consider Lodhi, Kapurthala. major problems in imp!ementation of Samman Pension Scheme and 8. Gurdwara Baba Gandha Singh, to tender advice to Government. Barnala. 9. Gurdwara Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Provision In SGPC Budget for Training Sahjb, DhamLlIl Sahib. in Amrs at Sikb Sbrines 10. Takha t Sf i Da m Duma Sahib, 5643. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: TaJwandi. SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE: 11. Takhat Sri Keshgarh Sahib Anandpur Sahib SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: (2) The authorities are vigilant and Will tbe Minister of HOME AFFAIRS are keeping a close watch ill the matter. be pleased to state : Suitable action will be taken against these found indulging in unlawful activities. (a) whether Government have informa tion about the provisions made in the 1985-86 budget of SbiJomani Gurudwara Funds for SC /ST Programmes During Prabandhalc Committee (SOPC, for speciaJ J985-86 arrangements for training in arms Ilt some sikh shrines; 5644. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : Will the Mini&ter of HOME AFFAIRS be (b) if so, the details thereof; pJea;ed to s ta tc ; (C) the amount earmarked for' such (8) whether the Central Plan for tbe training during 1984·85; year 1985·86 provides R~. 207 crOl cs for various programmes benefiting the (4) tbe nature of training proposed to be imparted in the Sikh shrines; Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes; (b) if so, the detaili of th.: schemes THB MINISTBR. OF STATE IN THB and pr03rlmme,; MINISTR Y O.F HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (C) whether these funds wl1 j Co released aDd (b). yes. Sir. Out of Rs. 207 crores by the concerned Ministries to the States during J9~5·86. Rs. 42 crores have been for SC and ST programmes; and provided for the Centrally Sponsored Schemes as detaiJed below and Rs. 165 (d) if so, the funds proposed (0 be distributed to the States, Slate-wise and crortS as SpeciaJ Central Assistance to the funds provided ft'r SCs and STs out SpeciaJ Component Plan for Scheduled of tbe said Central Plan? Castes • (Rs. in crores) J. Post Matric Scholarship.; for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. 10.00 2. Pre .. matric Scholarships to children of those engaged in unc}~an occupation~. 2.50 3 Construction of Girls Hostels for Scheduled Castes and Castes and Scheduled Tribes. 5.00 4. Book B~nks for Scheduled Castes and ScheduJed Tribe')· students in Medical a nd Engineering Colleges. 0.55 5. Pre-examinath.)n Training C:.n!r~s for Scheduled Castes and Schedu1ed Tribes. 0.70 6. Implementation of peR Act including liberation of scavengers. 5.50 7. Scheduled eU'ileS D" vdnpn1cnt Corpof(tlions. ]5.00 8. Research <1..,.J Training fur S~h~duh:d Castes and S.;h~duh!J Tribes. 1.00 9. AiJ to Vobn~ary organi;atiorJ) engaged in the W.:lfare of S.;h dul-!d C 1 ;t~;; a'lj S.;h-!Jul:!d Trib:!s. 1.15 ToLl I 42.00 In addition, a provision of Rs. 140 Poor Condition of Forests crores· has been made for providing Special Cenlra) Assistance to Tribal Sub-Plan. 5645. SHRI M RAGHUMA REDDY: WjJI the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (c) and (d) N\!cessary .funds for these state: schemes are reJcased by the Ministry of Home Affairs to the State Governments on (a) whether our forests are in poor the basis of the proposals received from . shape; them showing nl~ifchjng provisions made (b) if so, fuJi details of actual drop In in the State budget. Inform ,,~ .""~----. 5f.4(). SHRI GJRIDHAR GOMANGO; Year EXlent under Percentage of Will th:: PRJ ME MJNISTER be pleased to forest cover forest cover to state;· : • in million the geographi- (a) whether the Ministry has asked hectares cal area __.~ __ .w"~" Government of Orissa fo collect detailed infnrolatiotl rrgarding the air and water 1972-75 55.52 11589 pollution due to tstablishment of medium 1980-82 46.35 14.10 and major inctustries in that State; ~---,_#~------.------Estimated (b) if so, the total vi lJages. popula tion reduction 9.17 2.79 and rivers affected by these industries. industrywise there; nnd This estimate may need some revision (C) j fit has not ye t been coJ)ected by due to the fo))owing : tha t Sta te so far, ttl.! reasons for such delay though there were guidelines from (i) Some of the imagery relates to Union Gov~rnlllcnt in thh regard? periods during autumn when the trees are Ieaftess. which impaired THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reftectance of the vtaetatioD. MINISTRY OF ENVIRON~fENT AND FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) The (ii) Some of the forest areas were not Central Po))ution Control Board had asked registered in the imagery owing the State Pollution Control Boards, includ to shadow and obstruction by ing Orissa Board to prepare an inventory cloud cover. of industries (Large and Medium sector) with reference to their poffution control (iii) Young and immature plantations, status the canopy of which was not fully developed, cannot be identi (b) Total population and villages fied as forest areas by satellite affected by Air and Water PoJJution have imalery. not beeD surveyed by the State Board. (iv) The scale of the imegery being (c) No guidelines were issued (or col for too small. small patches of lecting data on affected villages and popula forest areas were not rtgistered tion in the above industrial survey. which resulted in cumulative However, State Government of Orissa and error. Sta te Pollution Control Boa rd have taken, 143 MAY 8,1985 up programmes to assess &ilnifieaot (iii) Riyao Airpor t in Republic of pollution in rivers and popuiation and Yemen. (Completed). villages affected. (iv) AJ-abaidha Airport In Republic of Yemen (in progress) Manpower E"gaged In Projec.s Undertaken by I.A.A.I Foreign Countries (v) Airport in Maldives (Completed). 2. Consultancy Projects SM7. SHRIANADICHARAN DAS: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND (i) Evaluation of airport at Attu·taki CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: Cooks Island. (Completed) (a) the, projects undertaken by the (ii) Development of airport at Nar.u. International Airport Authority of India (Completed) in the forelgn countries; (iii) Development of airport a t Mafia (b) the Indian manpower engaged in in Tanzansa (Completed). each project; (iv) Development of airports at Batna (c) the total number of employees in and Setif in Algeria. (in progress). the offices of Interna tiona I Airport Authority of Ind~'1 and whether reservation (b) The number of Indians employed in policy (or appointment of SCs and STs is the ongoing foreign projects as on date is : being implemented by the Authority or not; and .. Brak airport project in Libya 124 AI-ghaidha airport project in South (d) the number of SC and ST emp Yemen 40 loyees in the office of International Airport Authority of India and the humber of SC Datna and Sttif airport projects in and ST labourers sent abroard ? Algeria 8 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Total: 172 MINISTRY OF TOUSIM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : (a) The Inernational Airport Authority of (c) The 1nteena tiona I Airports India have undertaken the following projects Authority of Ind'a have 4981 Employees as in foreign countries: on 1-1-1985. 1. CODstruction Projects The Internationa I Airports Authority of India is strictly following Government's (i) New Ghat Airport Project in extent policy disectives on reservation for Libya including Terminal Building. Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes. Airport lighting and Air Force Camp. (Completed). (d) The' number of Scheduled Cl.ostes and Scheduled Tribes employees in the (ii) Brak Airport Project in Libya International Airports Authority of IndIa as (Phase I of the project has been on ,1-1-1985 are 1255 and 162 respectiVely. completed and Phase II is in The details of SC/ST employees/labourers progress) . in the ongoing projects are : ~---. 81. Project ReauJar C,ontract Total No. employees employees SC ST SC ST SC ST 1. Project in Libya 13 8 1 21 1 2. AI .. ghaidha project in South Yemen 4 2 6 3. Bltne and Setif projects in Algeria 1 1 Total: 18 10 1 28 1 14' VAISAKHA 18. 1907 (SA.KA) (T,an3Iatlon) . UN assistance, for promOdu. Computer MalateoaDee CorporatloR reaJ~time computer applicatiODI in developing countries; 5648. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD (b) Giving engineering suppott' RAWAT : Will the PRIME MINISTER be to Project CLASS (Comput'er pJeased to state : Literacy and Studies in (a) whether a Computer Maintenance Schools) ; Corporation was set up in 1975; (c) Developing an all-India Com (b) if so, the functions thereof; and puter Network called INDONBT for commercial applications (c) the details regarding the progress whose instalJation will begin in made by the above mentioned Corporation 1985-86 ; since 1975 to date 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (d) Special Software Development THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE like message Swi tching Syste,m AND TECHNOLOGY AND IN Software, Supervisory Control THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN and Data Acquisition Software DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, for Power System management, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRI portable relational data base SHIV'RAJ V. PATIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. The software, etc. name of the Corporation was changed to CMC Limited in August, 1984. (e) Development of LIPI, a multi lingual word processor; (b) 'file function~ cover total computer support services including nlaiotenance, (f) Development of GRAPHICS. an system engineering, equipment supply, invaluabJe tool for graphics software development, systems consultancy applica tion developers; and services, computer site pn:paration. educa data Base Management tion and training, Rand D etc. and 'ADMIN' based Oll the Net... providir.g technical services abroad and worle. export of softwa re. (C) The progress achieved is stated 2. Other activities of CMC include: below: (a) Organising Education and 1. In the beginning t:r~'lphasjs was on Training programmes; providing maintenance sel vices. In June, 1978 when IBM phased out (b) Functioning as canaliainl of India, CMC undertook services ageney (now decanaJised) for for users of IBM equipment in pefipbera1s floppy drives, Mattix India regardless of the type, age, aod Line Printers and Winchestor size or location of the machines. Drives; CMC is now providing maintenance at 8u locations in India to 386 mainframe computers (large (c) CMC has also undertaken a systems) of 30 leading foreign turnkey job for on· line Passen manufacturers apart from punches/ ger Reservation System for verifiers and unit rc:cord equipment. Northern Railway. CMC also gives si te preparation support to uses organisations. CMC' 3. CMC's turnover bas been steadily is a Iso executing a number of increasing. As against Ra. 5.5 ware and system engin~ering sofe crores turnover in 1978-79 tbe projects ~ucb as : estimated turnover in 1984..85 ia (a) ,Project INTBRACT, tbrou8h RI. 22 crores. , 141 MAY 8, 1985 Allocatioa, of MOGeY for Advaaeement of plan; and Eleetronies (c) tbe details of amount spent on 5649. SHill KAMLA PRATAD varioas items during 1984-85 item·wise ? B.AWAT : Will the PRIME MINISTER be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE plealed to state: MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH .. (8) the amount of money earmarked NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS by Government for the advancement of OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC electronics for the year 1985·86 ; ENERGY,. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PA TI L): (a) to (c). (b) the items on which th~ said amount The details are givc;!n in the enclosed il likely to be spent under the annual statement. Statement Plan Project.~ of the Dt!partment of Electronic!; (Rupees in Lakhs) Name of the Scheme Amount Earmar ked Amount for 1985·86 Spent During 1984 .. 85 ,------_.. _- .-~-____,. .------~.~ .. ------.-. 1 2 3 ------.. _-_._-,.------",--_. --". --," A. CORPORATIONS: 1. Electronics Trade and Technology Deve Jopmen t Corporation (ET and T) ]00.00 J50.00 2. Computer Maintenance Corporation (CMC) Limited 500.00 175.00 3. Semiconductor Complex Ltd. (SCL) 960.00 743.00 B. SOCITIBS : 4. Society (or Applied Microwave Electronics Bnlg. and Research (SAMEER) 230.00 96.89 5. Centre (or Development of Telematics (COOT) 720.00 50.00 c. DEPARTMENTAL PROJECTS: CoatiaulDIL Schemes 6. System Engineering and Consultancy in the Area of Radar and C 31 Systems. 50.00 7. Centre for Advanced Studies in Electronics 200.00 132.69 8. Blectromaloetic Interference/Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMljEMC) Studies Programme 120.00 80.10 9. Reliability Stl,ldies Programme 80.00 30.68 14~ VAISAt(HA 18, 190'. (SAKA) ISO' 1 2 3 10. Headuuarters 150.00 29.51 11. Special Components and Materials Programme 80.00 36.54 12. National Silicon Facility 545.00 136.42 13. Standardisation, T~sting and Quality Cootrol (STQC) 450.00 385.19 14.· Manpow.!c D.!vdopmeot and Social Electronics 33.80 473.22 15. Centre for Excellence, Regional Dev. etc. 166.20 7.54 16. Centre for Electronic Design Technology (CEDT) 200.00 47.00 17. Computer Literacy and Studies in Schools (CLASS) 400.00 • 18. Development of Amateur Radio Activity 5.00 25.00 New Schemes 19. Electronics Compont!ots D~ve]opment Fund 10.00 20. Centre ror Rand D Production of Power Semiconductor Devicee 10.00 D. SCHEMES UNDER CCI·WING Continuing Schemes 21. National Centre for Software Development and Computing Technology (NCSDCT) 250.00 267.00 • 22. National Informatics Centre (NI<;;) 1800.00 2542.25 23. Computer Centres Programme 200.00 35.00 24. Software Development Programme (CAD, CAM, CAl, etc.) 200.00 173.31 25. Centre for Dev. and Production of Computer Mainframes 1000.00 18.63 26. Fibre-Optics Systems Application Promotion Programmes (FOSAPP) 100.00 27. Generation of Special ~iaDpower for Com puters. 350.00 • 28. Appropriate Automation Promotion Centre 29. Microprocessor Application Dev. programme} 400.00 102.12 30. Mining Electronics Equipment Development .Expenditure on these project during 1984·85 is included in scheme No. 14 under manpower development. lsi MAY 8, I"'. 1 2 3 31. National HVDC Experimental Line Project 250.00 87.73 32. Centre for Flexible Manufacturi))g Technology 100.00 New Schemes 33. Telematics Development and Promotion ~rogramme lOO.OO 34. Fifth Generation Super-Mini Computor Desigtl Programme 3000 35. Advanced Technology Programme in Comguter Networking 5000 36. Software Export Promotion Programme 10.00 37. Instruments Maintenance Programme 10.00 E. Sand T PROGRAMMES : 38. Technology Development Council Projects 30000 223.70 39. National Radar Council Projects 200 00 258.57 40. National Micro.Electronics Council 20000 ._------. --- --~-- --_._-- Total: 1056000 6307.16 ForelgD Trade with E.T. and T .D.C. as indicated below :_ 5650. SHRI KAMAL PRASAD Year RAWAT: Will tht: PRIME MINISTER be Total turnover Exports pleased-to state: (Rs. ;" Jakhs) (Rs. in Jakhs) (a) the extant to which foreign trade 1974·75 8763 has increased as a result of setting up the 1975-76 179.10 3.84 Electronics Trade and Technology Develop ment Corporation, since 1974 to date; and 1976-77 649.12 50.99 (b) the number of persons to whom 1977-78 1154.49 128.19 te ,ling and measurement machines have been made available at cheaper rates? 1978-79 1218.65 86.77 1979-80 1086.05 80.94 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH~ 1980-81 1451. 79 151.25 NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC 1981·82 2160.66 111.80 ENERGY, SPACE AN.D ELECTRONICS 1982·83 6362.24 10885 (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) ET and T's QPp,rations. bave contributed to the 1983·84 3123.98 J25.92 growth of forcilD trade in electronics, both .~-,,_-- .. --.-,,-.""'-'--" import and export._ as can be seen from its 1984·85 7396.99 (Prov.) 154.90 (Prov.) . turnover &rowtb since its inception in 1974. VAISAkHA 18. 1901 (SAicA) (b) BT and T bas been importing and Construction of a Stadium at Allpurduar supplyio8 testing and measuring equipment to various organisatioes and users. So far, 5652. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will ET and T has supplied these equipment' to tbe Minister of YOUTH AfFAIRS AND more than 350 parties at competitive prices SPORTS be pleased to state: by bulk buying of the~e equipment from (a) whether to encourage rural athletes, various international source!oJ. the Government propose to construct a stadium at Alipurduar in JaJpaiguri district [English] of West Bengal; Fortgn Investment to Develop Various (b) if so, by what. time it will be Tourist Resorts in tbe Country completed; and 5651. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will (c) if not, tbe reasons thereof 1 the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AVIATION be pleasad to state : DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS (a) whether many foreign countries AND SPORTS (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA are being asked to invest in India to SINGH): (a) to (c). No proposal for develop various tourist resorts of the construcling a stadium at Alipurduar in country; Jalpaiguri District has been recciYilltd from the Government of West Bengal. (b) if so, detai Is thereof; (c) the details of the facilitks b~ing Facilitie ~ to Handicapped Persons/Children given to the foreign investors; by tbe Department of Tourism (d) whether Government of Japan has 5653. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD shown its willingness to invest for the SETHI: Will the Minister of TOURISM development of Bodhgaya and other places AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to of Budbist pilgrimage; state: (e) if so, the details thereof; (a) the hotel facilities which have been (f) whether Government intend to provided by the Department of Tourism at permit foreign investors to invest on hotels various places in the S lutes: etc. in India; and (b) whether there are any special (8) if so, the details thereof? facilities or coneessions nlade 8vaihible to the I andicapped persons/children; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL (c) if not, whether Govt!rnment propose AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) to provide such facilities and concessions (a) and (d). No, Sir. to the Handicapped ve!sons/chiJdren also? (b) and (d). Does Dot arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL (e). (f) and (g). For the development of AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : hotel a commodation of international (a) The Department of Tourism does not standards for foreign tourists" Govern by itseff provide any hotel facilities. ment has been permitting foreign iuvestment and collaboration with renowned (b) and (C), Do not arise. international chains in certain specialised technical services like planning, designing Inclusion or Kuduma Community In tbe List and equipping of hotels and their interna .. of Scbeduled Castes tional marketins. Forergn collaborators can invest in equity in foreign' exchange' 5654. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: upto 30010 of the total equity capi taJ and Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be can repatriate dividend or -any payments pleased to state: due· to them after payment of Indian taxes. (a) whether Government or Orissa , MAy 8, 198' ·lS~ . and some MPs from that State have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SU81ested to the Uniuu Ovv..;rnment to MINiSTRY OF HOME AFPAIRS .. Include "Kuduma" community in the State (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): of Orissa in the list of Scheduled Cac;tes; if (a) There has been no inordinate delay in so. the action taken by O:'>v;!rnment the publication of census data by the thereon; Registra.r G~neral and Census Commis sioner, India who has already published tbe (b) whether Government are aware figures rdating to religious groups based that the "Kuduma H Caste is a fraction of l on da ta collected in the household uKandapa" ca!o.te which is included in the scheduJes in 1981 Census and the figures of list of Scheduled C-iste; if so, the reasons general population, scheduled cas.tes and Jor not including the "Kuduma" Caste in scbeduled tribes. The tabulation of data the list of Scheduled Castes; and relating tv i.j.:~u 1ge/mofher tongue is ir II, ."", process .:lod there is no inordinate delay in (c) whether Government propose to this case also taking into account the include this community in the list of volume of work involved. Scheduled Castes? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) DJes not arise in view of ~a) above. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): Setting up of A tomic Power Station in (a) and (b). Proposal has been recej~ed Hims CbRJ Pradesh regarding treating of 'Kuduma' community as .synonym of Kandra. t.·anda l a which has 5656. PROF. NARAIN CHAND been specified as Schedu~ed Caste in relation PARASHAR ~ Wiillhe PRJME MINISTER /, to the Sta te of Oris~a, and not 'Kandapa' be p J~asl'd to sta te : bI, which has not been included in the list of Scheduled Castes in Oris~a. The comments r~ceived from the Government of Orbsa (~j) whether Governn,cnt have consi canDot be disclosed in the public interest. dl!red the request of the Hilllachal Pradesh Government for the locatiun of an Atomic (c) The above proposa I along with Power Plant in the S!ate; other such proposa Is are be..·ing considered in the context of the proposed conlprehen (0) if so, the decision taken by Govern sive revision of the lists of SchedUled rnent in this regard; and Castes and Scheduled Tribes as any amend ment ill the existing lists of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes can be done (C) if not, whether GovernrrJent would J only through an Act of Parliament in view consider and take an earJy decision about the of Artjcle~ 341(2) and 342(2) of the location of the plent ? Constitution. . THE MINISTER O:~ STATE IN THE Publication of Census Data MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS 5655. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR : Will the Minister of· HOME OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC AFFAIRS be pleased to state: ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (a) whether Government are aware of (SHRI SHIYRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) to (c). In the inordinate delay in the publication of tbe immediate future, expansion of the census data by the: Registrar General of existing station at Rawatbhata in Raja~than " Census Operation in relation to speakers of which forms a part of Northern Electricity Region has been approved. A final decision various dialects, languages, religiou~ groups and other categories of people; and with regard to' various other sites for location of future atomic power plants in (b) if so, the reasons for this delay the, Northern Electrici ty Region of which and the likely date by which the data Hif!1achal Pradesh forms a constituent part, would be pub) isbed ? is y~t to be taken. VAISAKHA 18, ·19(,7 (SAKA) Wrlturll An.rtHl'I . Zonal CouDcils for Promoting Regioaal allocation-plan and non-plan. for the Cullure other States and Union Territories for tbe ·Iast three years; and 5657. SHRT BHOtA NATH SEN: (d) the contribution/share of the Will the MinhH\.f l)f CULTURE be pleased to state: Sta tt Governments and Union Territory Governments for the same period year. (a) whether there is any proposal to set wise? up zona' cour.eiJs to pff'mOre and Inugrate IN regicna r cultures; THE MINISTER OF STATE THB MJNTSTR V OF TOURISM AND CIVIL (b) the details of the steps taken/pro AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : posed by Government in the matter; aDd (a) Yes, Sir. . (C) the salient features of the proposals? (b) The Stute annual budget for the last three years is as follows : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND (R upees in lakhs) TRAINING. ADMINISTRATIVE RE- ---... --..-- .. --~ ---~-- ...... ----~ ..... FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES Year Non-Plan Plan ~..--' . ~'---" AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART . .--- ~~-.. ,.~.- _...,.u .. U' ...... _"L .... _.,,_.,.._ ___ MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH 1982-83 8.80 0.53 DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. "It is proposed 10 1983·84 8.73 0.58 set up zonal cultural centres in the country. 1984-85 9.00 0.66 (b) and Ccl. The Zonal Cultural Centres will lay secial emphasis on people's parti .. (c) and (d). The Department does Dot cipation in cultural activities and would have state-wise budget allocations. Instead emphasize separate iden~itics as well 'as the Department provides financial assis similari ties by the Zone ina ~ense tha tit tance whenever the State Governments/ would be a symbol of unity in diversity. Union Territeries propose suitable tourism These would be suitably il1ustrated in terms projects. Such projects are enlcrtained by of various artistic manifestations like the Departmeet subject to availability of music, folk dances, folk crafls and tribal funds and inter-se priorities. Presently, arts. A Zonal Centre for Northern Zone t here is no proposa J from Arunachal is being set up at Patiala covering the Pradesh pending with the Depart~ent. .. States ·of Punjab. Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir and Revision of Ceiling Line for IdentifyIng Rajasthan. The details are being worked Persons below Poverty Line out. Another such centre for the Eastern Zone will be set up shortly at .5659. SHRI S.L. MVRMU : Will the Shantiniketan. Minister of PLANNING be pleased to refer to the reply given to part (C) of Development of Tourism in Arunachal Unstarred question No. 4308 on 22 August, Pradesh 1984 regarding revision of ceiling line for identifyrng person below poverty )ine and 5658. SARI P.K. THUNGON : WiJl state : the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL (a) whether the deliberations of Study AVIATION be pleased to state: Group have since been completed; (a) whether· there are good prospects (b) if so, the details thereof; and of tourism in Arunachal Prasdesh; (c) if not, the reasons (or delay? (b) if so, the annual budgetary alloca~ tion-Plan and non-plan, for Arunachal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Pradesh year-wise for the last three years; MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN) : (a) fO (c). The Study (C) tbe Centre's annual budaetary Group 00 Concepts and Estimation 01 159 MAY 8,1985 poverty line. constituted by tbe PJannio, TaB MINISTBR OP STATB IN THB' Commission in connection with the Seventh MINISTRY OP HOMB AFFAIR.S Five Year Plan, has submitted its report (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): which is being examined by tbe Planning (a) to .(c). The reference in the Question to Commission. an carlier Unstarrcd . QLl:s~ion (No.4306, answered on 22-8·84) r~Jates to a represen Filling up Post of Commissioner for tation from "Voluntary Social Orsani.a SCs/STs. tioos including individuals and De,lhi Scheduled Castes and Welfare Association, (Regd.). Ambedkar Bhavan. New Delhi'" 5660. SHRI S.L. MURMU: Will the for establishment of Dr. Ambedkar Memo Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased rial Museum in D~lbi at 26, Alipur Road. to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Further information had been solicited in Question No. 4280 on 22 August, 1984 this question regarding Government's regarding filling up of post of Commissioner reaction to the representation and the for SCs/STs and sta te : proposed Government action. In the reply given on 22.8.J984 tbe House had been (a) whether the post of Commissioner dnformed that the representation has ti!en for Scheduled Scheduled Castes and Tribes iforwaried to Delhi Administration and the has since been filled; matter was under their consideration. (b) if so. the particulars of the incum· According to the latest information bent; and received from Delhi Administration, the building in question, which is a private (C) if not, the reasons for not filling the property, has since been demolished and post so far a nd the time by which it is the site converted into a modern commer likely to be filled by a competent person 7 cial complex. Delhi Administration has informed there is no proposal to set up the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Dr. Ambedkar Memorial Museum at MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS present. (SHRIMATJ RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) and (b). No, Sir. Proposal to Open More Tourist Offices Abroad (c) The (lifer of appointment has been sent to the offict'r selected for the post. 5662. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATBL : He has accepted the officer. He has been Will the Minister of TOURISM AND asked to join immediately. CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: Establlsbment of Dr. Ambedkar Memorial (a) the number of tourist offices func tioniog abroad; Museum In Delhi (b) whether there is any proposal under 5661. SHRI S.L. MURMU : Will the the consid'.!ration of Oov~rnment to open Minister of HO~1E AFFAIRS be pleased more tourist offic~s abroad; and to refor to the reply given to Unstarred (C) if so. the names of the countries in Question No. 4306 OD 22-8-1984 regarding which these are likeJy to be opened and by establishment of Dr. Ambedkar Memorial when '1 Museum in Delhi and state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) whether final decision has since been MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL taken in th.e matter by Governm~nt; AVIATION (SHRi ASHOK OEHLOT): (a) The required information is given in tbe (b) if so. when the same is going to be 8tatement auached .. established in Delhi; an~ . . (b) No. Sir. (C) if not, the reasons ft)r delay in the matter? (c) Does o'ot ari$c. , 161 ,,·,61.... , • .,.,., YAJS~K:BA 18. 1907 (SAK~) 'f j ','II"~ • 'j' I"., , Stafement , .' t ~," 1. New York ONE MAN OPPICES 2. Cbica.o 1. Washington These one man offices " ,1 .. Loa' Anaetes' 2. San Francisco have been closed with 3. Miami } effect from 31·3·85. 4.. Dellas CANADA 4. Toronto U.K. ' 5. London SWITZERLAND 6. Geneva FRANCE 7. Paris WEST GERMANY 8. Frankfurt BBLGIUM ~. Brussels SWEDEN 10. Stockbo,lm ITALY 1'1: Milan AUSTRI,A 12. Vienna AUSTRALYA 13. Sydney S. Melbourne maD 14. Singapore JAPAN . 1~;7D ::E 15~ Tokyo 6. Osaka r process of being 16. Kuwait 7. Dubai I wound up. THILAND 8. Ka tamandu (Nepal) J 17. Dlaatole MALAYSIA ~ .. \" .) 18 •.&:.1. Lumpur afn,QN:• • I I" , ~' ... ", ,If" 'C6t.m&o~1'~ ofttc«t win start functionins a$ SQOQ as oflicer is posted lt WrIt'M Auwr. MAYS, ttl, 20-Polat ProaraDIme fa West Bengal ,(c) The performaDce.ln the implemenla. tiOD of 20·Point Prolramme in Wee't ~D.al S663. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: as compared to Mabar.lbtr., Uttar 'PrlCleah, Will the Minister of PLANNING be Orisla,.Bibar. Assam and Madhya Pradesb pleased to state : is shown in the table below. (a) whether the Planning Commission has monitored progress and or conducled State Bank iD Performance studies about the implementation of the ------Centre's 20-Point Programme in West 1982·83 1983-84 1984-85 Bengal during the Sixth Plan period 1980 .. 85 ; West Bengal 16 19 19 (b) if so, tbe details of the steps taken Maharasbtra 10 2 1 and the result thereof; Uttar Pradesh 13 10 6 (c) the progress in West Bengal as compared to the progress in Maharashtra, Orissa 7 8 13 Uttar Pradesh, Orissa, Bihar, Assam Bihar Madhya Pradesh in the matter of imple 17 17 IS mentation of the 20·Point Programme; Assam 22 13 14 (d) whether the guidelines issued by Madhya Pradesh 6 4 16 the Centre have been followed by the West Bengal Government while implementing this programme; (d) Yes, Sir. (e) the total outlay approved by the (e) The 20-Poi n t Programme was an Centre for e,xpendi ture on 20 Point Pro nounced on 14th January. 1982 and its gramme in West Bengal and the actual implementation was taken up under the expenditure incurred thereon during 1980-84; Annual Plan 1982 .. 83. The outlays for tbe and 20-Point Programme are not fixed specifi. (f) the programmes in which West ca lIy. These are derived from the outlays Bengal is lagging behind '1 for the various developmental sectors, as the 20-Point Programme forms integral THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE part of the Annual ·Plans. The derived out MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K. R. Jays and expenditure on the 20-Point Pro NARA Y ANAN): (a) The Planning Com gramme in West Bengal from 1982-83' missson has been regularly monitoring tbe onwards are given in tbe table below. progress of implementation of the 20-Point Programme in all States including West (Ra. crores) Bengal from 1982 .. 83 onwards. when the implementation of the Programme was Year Outlay Expendi ture undertaken. No separate studies about the implementation of tbe Programme in West 1982 .. 83 299.40 294.10 Bengal have been conducted. 1983-84 289.~5 269.97 (b) The West Bengal Government is furnishing Monthly and Quarterly Progress 1984-85 23S.2S 364.57 Reports on the implementation of the Pro (Litoly) gramme regularly in the prescribed pro formae according to the auidelines. A table sbowing the tarsets and performance .(t) The attached table live. details of of the State Oovernment in the imple the performance of Wost se&,&1 and tbe mentation of the 20-Point Programme for national averale in each itcOl. The Stat. 1982-83, 1983·84 and 1984-85 is laid on the may be considered to be 1.laina bebind ID Table of the House. tbose i I.ems iD which its performance i, (Placed in Libra". S" No. LT·11 01/85) . bel~w tbe national .veraac. Apee..... wltla N.R.D.C. for .Set"111 up financed by Haryaoa State Financial Cor Mlal Ce... t PI•• t. Ie BarraDa poration and the project is progressi.ng. '664" SHRr LALA RAM KEN: Will CancellatioD aDd Delay of ladlan AlrUnes the PRIMB MINISTBR be plea~ed to Flights stato : 5665. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (a) whether some firms entered into MUNSI : Will the Minister 'of TOURISM alroement with N R.D.C. to set up mini AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to cement plants in Haryana ; state: .. (b) if so, the names of sucb firms and (a) whether it is a fact that Indian details tbereof : AirJines flight 273 was cancelled on 16 June, 1984 ; (C) whether these parties have already spent bUlle amount on tbe construction of (b) if so. the reasons therefor; building. ma.cbinery. foundation wort etc. or the said plaDts after tbe agreement with (c) whether similar delays were there N.R.D.C. ; on ftight 184 on 1 and 2 June. 1984 ; aod (d) if so, the reallons therefor? (d) whether N.R.D.C. is not takins any initiative to help these parties in get THE MINJSTER OF STATE IN THE tina the loan assist1. nce etc. ; M1NISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT)! (e) if so, tbe reasons tberefor ; and (a) and (b). No, Sir. Indian Airline flight (f) the steps being comtempJated to IC-273 of 16th June, 1984 was operated as save the interests ot such parties? scheduled. Flight IC-273 of 15th June, 1984 was, however, postponed for operation on THE MINISTSR OF STATE IN THE J6th June, 1984 due to late availability of MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH aircraft and subsequent non-availability of NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS the crew. OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (c) and (d). Indian Airlines flight Ie- (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL)': (a) Yes Sir, 184 Delhi-Bombay operates with the crew two firms have eotered ioto agreements of IC·402 coming from Calcutta. As the with National Research Development Cor departure of IC·402 from Calcutta was pora tion of India (NRDC) for setting up deJayed on 1-6-84 due to grounding of one mini cement plaots in Haryao8. Airbus aircraft. the flight IC-JB4 from Delhi was als~:,consequently delayed. (b) (i) MIs AravaH Cement Pvt. Ltd. Sari Pralba (ii) Mis Swarajya (NarnauJ Cement Industries Pvt. Ltd., Sona. 5666. SHRI AMARSINH RATHWA . (c) MIs Aravail Cement Pvt. Ltd. have SHRI NAVIN RAVANI: placed order for' the machjnery worth Will tbe Minister of HOME AFFAIRS Rs. 9.8 laths with tbe fabricators approved be pJeased to state : by the N.R.D.C. The project of Mis SwaraJya Cement Industries Pvt. Ltd. is (a) whether Government are aware under implementation. . that the Sati Praaha is still continuing in certain parts of the country; (d) to (~). N.R.D.C. hal been extend· ina all assistance to these firms in con (b) if 80, tbe number o( cases which nection with tbeir application to the finan have come to the notice of GovernD".ent cial institutions. MIs Aravail Cement has during tbe last five year. ; and .wabt flnancial 'assiStance from Banb and N.R.D"C baa supported their reque.t. MI' (e) the ..teps beiDi taken to check this .Swann. Cemeat Industriea baa bleD sy.tem in ,be country ? 167 "",ltte" ",''',, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB j n view the productioD 01 . coJdUt TY' ...' MINISTRY OF HOMB AFFAIRS Black and Wbite TV set, ; (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) to (C). There is no speciftc information (b) how maoy coI9~lr,. and. ,BIs c. and .or report with the Government to conclude White TV sets have been _lIotted' to coo tba t Sa ti Pra tha is stiJl continuing in s u mers c>ut-of-turn during tbe last year; "' certain parts of tbe country. No data regarding number of women committing (C) the categories and· criteria adopted for allotment of Be· TV out .. of.. turo .. , Sati is compiJed on All India basis as law .'. ,,,,1, and order including crime is a State subject. to consumers; and The State Governments and Union Territory Administrations are responsible for enforc (d) how many applications and pend·ing ing law relating to offences. for out-of - turn a 110.ment with tbe company~. . as on date? Purc1Jase of Colour and Black and White TV Sets from E.C.I.L. THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH 5667. SHRI BANWARI LAL NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS BAIRWA: Will the PRIME MINISTER OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. A TOMJC be pleased to state: \ ENERGY. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (a) how many consumers are registered (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) = (8) Number wi th EelL for purchase of colour TVs nnd of consummeS:R regis1ered with ECIL for Black and White TVs at each delivery purchase of Black and White nnd C(}loUJ centre till date and by what tjme the pre ... TV Sets at each delivery centre as on sent waiting list will be exhausted keeping 31-3-85 is as uRder :- . Delivery Centre- No. of Consumers Registered for Black and White Colour Ahmedabad 600 1.887 Daogalore 52 1,775 Bombay 2,000 '.624 Calcutta 700 3.028 . Chandigarh 150. 971 Delhi 41S 5,874 Hyderabad Nil 3,049 Indore NiJ 441 Jaipur Nil 1,855 Kakinada Nil 102 Lucknow Nil 1',980 Madras 52 1.679 Nagpur 250 -356 Panipat Nil 324 Pune 1,200 897- Raipur NU 394 Tirupalhi Nil 73 Vijayavada Nil 264 __...... ,..._,, ____...... 4.. __ '. Total: 5,·419 32.'73 , Present waiting list for Black and White sets is ex~ted to, be cl~~~cd· iD .bQut 3 ,m.ootbS and CoJour sets bef.ore the eod of this: year~ - . .. '" 1 i', 110':':' .~) 'Number of sets allotted ,on ;;,OOJ-of'-':' turn~ ::basis durin's '.'he ,t'd'oo." ·4·84 to EzpebdU"'e .'. RbiOOll on their. Catebiofl 31.,-85· 'is ai under' : "'I ' , ,f " , ,41\1",...... JII ~ ~' . '~04 ';TransPorata lion '" 'Bl'a'ck and White " " . "'Nil' '. ~669·. SH'Rf' Y. S'. 'MAI-IAJAN,·: 'Wj.II; Colour 976 the " -PR:JME . 'MIN'IS rER 'be pleased . to',: '1'" state : " " (C) 50/0 of the production ~r, CT~ sets (8) ~ satisf~ctory; . t ' In March-April 1984. five rhinos were captured' - in Assam 'and translocated to . (b) whether these stations are W'rirting" Uttar Pradesh for release in the Dudtjwa tb thtir installed capacity; and . / Nationaf Park as par(of a reintroduction .4&'· program~e.. for the species. Of these, . two ~ , rhinos died, one due to infection after (~~. i~ Dot, the time by ~~ich the~" abortion and tbe otber possibly due to ~Y.ou~ start workln& to ~beir fU,1J 08p8City ? '. damage of the radial nerve. , , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) Rs. 3.~8 lakhs were paid t? the INISTRY OF SCIENCE A}\lD TECH.. , r;.', : qQvernnlcnt 0 ~ssam for each animal. M The total expenditure on the capture. NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENrS cra.ting aDd transpotar'ion of the rhinos was OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT,. ATOMIC Rs' 3.1S"' lakns. ENERGY. SPACE ~ND ELECTRONICS · ,SHRI SHIVR'AJ 'V. PATJL): (a) Yes, (d) and (e). During March-April 198', Sir. All . ~h." five nuclear power units are four rhinos were captured jn Nepal and currently . operating satisfactorily. The taken to the Dudhwa National Park, where second unit at KaJpakkam is expected to be tbey have been released. In exchange. 'tbe commissioned ,this year and two units at, Government of Uttar Pradesh will be Na ora are expected to be commissioned in giving captive elephlints to Nepal. 1987-88 and ,j'988-B9 respe~tiveJy. :~' (f) and (g). The F.A.O. Cbief Tecbni- (c) 'D'oel Do't arise. cal Advisor at tbe Wildlife Institute 01 J'J 172 India, Debra DUD. was associated with tbis of"PpJicatiOD 80ftware in tbe area. of busi project. He has' previous experience or Desl, enlineerinl. manaaement. ooUno capture of rbinos in Alsam and Bihar aDd transaction, baokiol. consultancy 8c~vice. bas captured a totaJ of 20 Indian rbiDOS., feasilibity reports, system cODversion etc. He bas also experience on African rhino to the countries in Europe, USA, Middle and of drul immobilis,tioo oC African. and East aDd Japan. Asiatic elephants aDd various unauJates, incJudiol deer and antelopes. Allocation for lO·PolDt Programme Export or Computer Software .5671. SHRI SUR-SSH KURUP: SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD S670. PROP. P.J. KURJEN : Will the SINGH: PRIME MINISTER be pleased to stale : Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: (a) wha t is India'8 share in export of computer software in the world market; and (a) the amouDt allocated by Union Government to each State and Union Territory and their own contribution to (b) the deta its of software exported? wards tbe implementation of 20-Point Pro aramme in 1984-8S; and THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH (b) the break-up of utilisation of funds NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS by each State and Union Territories? OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC ENBRGY, SPACE AND' ELECTRONICS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI SHIVRAJ v. PATIL) : (8) As MINISTR Y OF PLANNING (SHRI K.R. commpared to world sofrware market of NARAYANAN) : (a) and (b). Tb~ outlays US $ II billion in 1983 Jndia exported for the 20-Point Programme are not fixed computer software worth Rs. 17 crores, separately, as the Programme froms an during the same year. integral part of the .. plans of States aDd Union Territories. Outlays for the 20- (b) The details of tbe sofl ware exported Poin t Programme art' derived from the during tbe last few years is as follows: Sectoral outlays under the Plan. There is no separate figure of the States' own COD 1981 Rs. 10.2 crores tribution for implementing tbe 20.. Point Programme. Central Assistance to the 1982 Rs. 13.5 crores State Plans is given in the from of block loans and grants and not for individual 1983 Rs. 17.0 crores schemes/programmes. A Statement ahowiol 1984 Rs. 24.0 crores the derived outlays and likely expenditure during 1984-85 on the 20·Point Pro,ramme The software exported ~from India CODSit in States/Union Territories is attached. State_eat 2()"Point Prolramn,e-Ollll(ly and EXJl6nditure-198 ~.85 (Rs. crores) Sl. State/U.Ts Outlay Expend iture No. Likely 1 2 J 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 659.77 771.52 2. Assam 233.97 262.88 175 tV""", ....,., VAIIA'ICH. II. 1'907 (8.a~) W,"'." AII'-w" 114 1 2' 3 4 3. Bihar '29.91 552.10 4. Oujarat 626.41 588.26 S. Haryan. 281.60 301.52 6. Himachal Pradesh 97.84 98.27 7. Jammu and Kashmir 96.89 99.40 8. Karnataka 439.48 453.81 9. Kerala 210.22 210.22 to. Madbya Pradesh 814.30 811.08 11. Maharasbtra 964.43 863.99 12. Manipur 30.66 3080 13. 'Megbalaya 24.. 31 24.31 14. Nagaland 16.99 20.51 15. Orissa 26202 274.77 16. Punjab 30S.8S 285.67 17. Rajasthan 270.54 278.23 18. Sikkim 12.59 12.60 19. Tamil Nadu 458.22 479.47 20. Tripura 31.89 4S.86 21. Uttar Pradesh J068.68 1129.57 22. West Bengal 235.25 364.57 1. Aodama 0 and Nicobar Islands 7.57 757 2. Arunacba 1 Pradesh 25.12 25.12 3. Chandia8rh 7.~8 7.65 4. Dadar aod Nalar Haveli 4.91 4.80 5. Delhi 88.98 88.77 6. Goa, Daman and Diu 2S.SS 27.59 7. Laksdbweep 1.09 1.10 I. Mlzoram 14.53 14-91 9. POlldicber.., 9.98 10.37 " cracks fa TaJ Malaal 1'" (c) Question does not arise. 5672. 'SHRI M. RAOHUMA REDDY: Statemeat SH'RI R.AM RATAN RAM :,;' Win the Minister of CULTURB be The Central Government have takea pleastd to state : the following important decisions to imple (a) whether it has come to the notice ment tbe provision, on Officiallanguase as , of Government that serious cracks and contained in the Constitution, the Official CANCER is fast developing in Taj M~hal, Languages Act. 1?63 and the Official Agra since five years; Lan,uaaes, Rules, 1976 :_.. , (b) it so, the reasons thereof; snd ". 1. To ens~re the proa~ssive use of Cc) steps beinl taken by Government 1to Hindi in the Ofii,eial work of the stop cracks and CANCER so as to preserve Central Government arid with a view thc originality of this monument? to co-ordinate tho. ~ork being done THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by the various Ministries/Depart MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND ment, a Kcndriya. Hindi Samiti has TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE- been constituted under the Chairman FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES ship of the . ,Prime Mini.ter. It AND PENSION AND IN THE DIiPART.. includes some prominent Central MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI 'K:P. Ministers, Chief Ministers, Members SINGH DEO) : (a) No cracks of a serious of Parliament and emin'ent nOD nature or cancer have developed in Taj officials also as its members.. Mahal during the last five years. The 2. Hindi Salahkar -Sa~itjs have been cracks noticed in Taj Mahal have been constituted in various Ministries! in existonce for decades. The tell-~aJes Departmen ts of the Central Govern fixed by the Archaeological Survey of India ment to advice (or the use of Hindi in 1943 have shown no further expeDsioD as Official Langu8se. of the cracks. 3. Central Official Language Imple (b) 8IJd (c). The cracks are mainly due mentation Committee has been set to oxidization of iron dowels and clamps. up under tbe Chairman -ship of the These are repJaced by non-corrosive metal Hindi Adviser to the Government of lic dowels and clamps. A High Pow.e,r India and Secretary, Department of Expert Commi ttee has also been set up' to Official Language to review the examine aU problems relating to the· CO,:l implementation of instructions servation and preservation of Taj Maha1. relating to tbe Official Laosuase. ImplemeDtatioD of Official LauRuale 4. Official Language Implementation Committees -halve been set up in 5673. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: the Ministries/Departments of the Will the Minister of MOME AFFAIRS be Centra I Government. Besides pleased to state : . Ministries/Departments, Official (a) whether Gcvel nment have taken any Laogu.ac ~pJeme.otation Committees decision with regard to effectiv~ implement have been set up in Attached and lion of official lang~a&e; Subordinate .otIices "and offices of (b) if 80, details thereof; nnd Corporations and Companies where 25 ot more persons are employed. (c) if 110t, the time by whicb the country is likely to have one national s. Town official Language Implemen ofJicia I la.nsuage ? ta tiQt»: ,t;;.ommit~s have bFen set up THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in 65 cities of "the·' country to review MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS aod coordina, te ,t~e progr.ess in tbe (SHRIMATI .RAM DULARI SINHA): use of Hindi in JOcal Central Govern Yes, S'fr. ment offices. (b) A ,statement given the rcqu.isite 6. The Department of Official Language informatioB is enclosed. " prepares un. IQ'O-".' pro.taDlIl1~_ <::8Qb ot I'Dlacial yoar. These wore wri ften back , yea, whi~b JI circula,ted to all MIDil"~iO'1 and adjusted in prior period expenses OD Departmeota/OlJJce. of tho' CeDtr.,1 recoDciitation between store records' and GoverDl'DODt. Pro'rel.ive· Ute of correspoodinl financial account. Klodi il 8ou.bt to, be eblured tbroua this aDDual prosramme. b Arms Haalat Madra. Harbour 7. Witb a view to acceleratin, the pro lre.live usc of Hindi, thc Cental 567S. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: Government have initialed many SHRJ M. RAGHUMA REDDY: incentives scheme which are as Will thO Minister or HOME AFFAIRS foJlow:- be pJeased to state: (a) Scheme of awardins Rajbhasa Ca) whether Government's attention ShieJd, Trophy and medals. bas been drawn to the news-item appearing (b) Orant of incentive alJowance to in tbe. Indian Bxpress dated 4 April, 1985 Stenographers and Typists for where.tn it bas been stated that a larse doina their official work ill Hindi quantIty of arms and ammnDitions was in addition to English. seized at Madras Harbour from a container which was booked from Singapore; (C) Incentive Scheme to original Hindi noting/drafting in official (b) if SOt what are the details thereof; and work. (c) whether any inquiry has since been (d) Scheme of monetary incentives conducted and if so, outcome thereof ? OD passiDI Hindi examinations under Hindi Teaching Scheme. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (e) Scheme of monetary incentives on (SHRIMATI RAt.f DULARI SINHA): passing the Hindi Typing/Hindi (a) Yes Sir. Sterjography examina lion under Hindj Teaching Scheme. (b) The vessel M.V. Sea Express which arrived at Madras Harbour on 15-3-85 A._at written orr by S.O.C. of IX Asian carrc:d among other items a container said Games to contain' waste paper. When the container was opened in the presence of 5u74. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will Officials on 2·4-85, it was found that tbe Minister of YOUTH AFFAIRS AND it contained arms & ammunitions, gas cylinders, transmission sets etc. A detailed SPORTS~be pleased to state: Jist of items found in the contajner is given whether an amount of Rs. 512576.11 in enclosed statement. written off by the SOC of IX Asian Games (c) The matter is under investigation. bave been written back and adjusted in the amount of 1983-84; and Statement (b) if so. tbe reasons thereof ? In,entor, of Items found lit ContaiMr THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB 1. 20 case. each containing 15 set. of DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS atenluns-i.e. a tot.) of 300. AND SPORTS (SHRI R.K. JAI CHANDRA SINGH). : (a) Yes, Sir. 2. 70 Gunoy covered bundies each contaioinl 10 pieces of ritles-i.e. (b) Tbe Special Organising Committee a total of 700. baa IDdmated that this accounting adjust _.at was necess;cialed due to ·tbe fact tbat 3. 241 packaaes (cases) contajnins certain cOttSumable items of stores issued bullets • . to various fteld aaencies and cbar,ed as 4. Hi.b prcsaure Gas Cylinders-IS ~ptiO.D durin. 1982-83 were lubse.. ...tl, returoed' b, tbem, aftcr tbe Qloso Noa • 119 MAY:~I.l98S, 5. ODe carton Belt ror Cyliodent-15 CODS trqctiOD cou Id DQt. be ~leared throuah Nos. tbe local a\ltborit.es due (0 restrictions imposed under the re.cePtly altered building 6. One bundle Cylinder values-IS bye-laws ot t.he Calcutta CorporatioD. The NOI. possibilit ie'S cf set ti'rg the work ~xC'cuted 7. 51 Nos. bundles of clot'h. by the CPWD is being e~amiDed. 8. 2 Cartons-Photo copying machine Checking Deforestation 111 Rural and and one power transformer. or HUI Areas 9. 2 Cartons-Trans-Receivers. 5677. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: 10. 3 Cartons containing 4 Nos. Com WiJJ the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to munication Receivers. state: 11. 2 CartoDs-Hammock-120 Nos. (8) \\hether deforestation has become 12. One carton-Amplifiers. a problem in the rural and hill regions due to sh('rtage of gas, kerosene and cement 13. One carton-Retender Regulator. etc; 14. One bundle white paper. (b) tbe steps taken so far to check deforestation in rural and hi]) regions; and 1 S. Antenna-S Nos. 16. 3 Nos. Connectors and 2 pices (c) whether Government propose to connection wires. consider regular market ing of these com .. modities at subsidised rates in such areas 17. Six bales Kra ft waste papers. in order to protect forests and also ensure regular supply 10 the pe ople ? Construction of Building by Asiatic Society THE MINISTER OF STArE IN THE 5676. SHRIMATI GBETA MUKHER MIN1STRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND JEE : Will the Minister of CULTURE be FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) As con pleased to state: sumption of gas and kerosene in the rural and hilly regions is insignificant, their (a) whether a sum of Rs. 34 lakh sanc shortage does not crca tc; any more deforesta. tioned by the Planning Board of the tion problem. Shortage of cement does not Asiatic Society during the year 1984-85 for pose a probJem to tbe protection of forests. tbe construction of its bicentenary building remained unuti lised; and (b) Tbe foJJowing steps are taken to check deforestation :- (b) if so, the reasons therefor? The Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has been enacted to check indiscriminate MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND diversion of forest lands to non-forest uses. TRAINING, ADMINiSTRATIVE RE FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES Guidelines have been issued to States AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART and Union Territories for the preparation MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K P. SINGH of working (management) plans and the DBO) : (a) PlaDniD, Board of the Asiatic working of forests. Society which is an advisory Board, recom mended an allocation of Rs. S3 Jakhs The States aod Union Territories ltalle during 1984-85 for the construction of two been advised to strengthen the enforcement additional Boors on the existing building machinery at the fieJd level. of the Society. The Society. however, ear marked Rs. 12 lakbs (or the purpose for The ,National Forest ,Policy is, beiol tbe said ycar. reviewed to· provide the needed tbrust in favour of fordst conservation and to create (b) The amount could not be spent as a massive peoplets movement for tb'i'" tbe plans aad estjma t'es of the proposed purpose. 182 ", A mas~ive progra'mme of affores:taUoD (b) if so, what are tbe agreements tbat is proD05ed to be undertake·n. have been signed between India and Argen tina in the month of September Jast; aDd An indepth study is being undertaken witb a' view to work out the modalities (C) to wha t extent India and Argentina for relieving the pressures on forests, will benefitted and the relations between tbe speciaUy by encouragins the use of substi countries further improved? tute materials. (c). A regular marketing system exists THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB for .:ommodities like gas and kerosene and MINISTR Y OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS the price of kerosene and cooking gas is (SHRI KHURSHBED ALAM KHAN) : (a) Yes Sir. subsidised' by Government. As regards t cement, there are two categories viz. levy (b) Agreed minutes of tbe Indo-Arlen and non-levy cement avaHabJe to consum'ers. tina Joint Committee on Trade were siaoed Levy cement is sold at controlled rate and in September, 1984. is alJocated for various uses by the Civil SupJies Departmen t . (c) It is expected that the AgreeQ)eot wilJ consolidate. develop and diversify Jbe Forest-Based Industries to be set up in tbe economic relations between the two coun Seventh Five Year Plan tri~s through a larger reciprocal and perma.. nent coo~eratioD in various areas. 5678, SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the PRIME M[NI~TER be preased to state: AntbropolQgical Survey of India (a) whether Government have set up 5680. Dr. KRUPASINDHU BHO!: forest based industries in var;ous States; Will the M'inister of CULTURE be pleased to state : (b) if so, t,be number of such forest based industries which have been set up in (a) whether the Anthropological Survey different States during the 18' t two years; of India proposes to set up a centre for advanced study in anthropo)olCY during the (c) whether Government propose to • Seventh PJan; increase the number of forest based indus tri'es in the Seventh Five Year PJan period; (b) jf so, the details tbereof; aod and (c) the time by which it is likely to (d) if so, the Dumber of such forest come into being ? based industries which are proposed to be set up in Tamil Nadu ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTI\.Y OF PERSONNEL AND TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RB THE MINISTER OF 'STATE IN THE FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCeS MINISTRY OF 'ENVIRONMENT AND AND PENSION AND IN THB DEPART FORBSTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (u) to (d). MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH Tbe requisite information is being collected OBO) ': (a) Government has no sucb pro from tbe various States and wi II be laid vU posal at prescnt. tbe Table of Lot Sabha in due course. (b) and (c). Do Dot arise • . Joint ColDlIIlSllon or ladl. aDd A'ratatJaa Setting up of Forest Based IndUstries In 5679. SHRI B:V. DESAI: . WiJl the AlIlI'8watl Minia:ter of BXTBRNAL AFFAIRS be pleased'to state: 5681. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARl: WHI the PRIME MINISTER be pJoaaod to (a) "Nbetber India and Argentina con state: cl\14ect •.n .••r4:oment ,on bilateral eC,?Il?a.'.ic cOCM'H.tratioD a.ad, decided to set up a JOint (a) whether ·tbe poasibiJiti. to let up CQmmissio'D to iQstitutionalise such coope forest-based industries in Amra ..t; di'tri~t d,do.,; " in Mabar•• btra have bolD .apJorod; "",ltt• ..4..",. J" '(b) if 80 •.tbe possibilities of settiDl up tecbaolOlY in tbe country, at priCII DOIr such. industries in Amrawa ti district in international prices and prolreuiveJy. in Mabarasbtra; crease indigenisation consistent witb economic viability. The new Computer (c) the special steps taken by Govorn Policy provides for manufacture of mini ment to set up forest based industries; in computers/microcomputers incJuditll Pono Melghat Division (MandaI) in Amrawati nal Computers by any Indian Company i.e. district; and wholly owned Indian companies and . com panies with (oreilo equity not cxceediol (d) the details in this regard ? 40%. in tbe private or public sector. The THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB new policy has removed restriction on MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND capacity and ma nufacture of low-cost FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) Yea, Sir. systerns (below Rs. 3 laths) even by units in the organesed sector. (b) There is no scope for estabJishiol large-scale forest-based industries in Amra (c) The Government have announced wati district in Maharashtra. Other indus· reduced rate of custom dUly (or the com tries such as manufacture of doors and ponents/p~lrts reqoired for the manuracture windows ... bullock-carts, agricultural imple of computer and computer periph('ra)s. ments, tool handles. furniture, toys, The Governmen t have aJso completely picture .. frames, etc. and oil-extraction units removeci excise duty on the iudiaenously exist in the small.scale, cottage-scale and produced components and peripherals. artisan sectors. (d) Production of computers worth (c) and (d). A special study group for Rs. 150 crores has been targetted for tbe examining the feasibility of establishing year 1985·86. forest-based industries has been appointed by the Maharashtra Government Oct., Grant nnd Assis.ance to Artist 1983. Detaiis are awaited . .Output or Computer 5683. SHRIMATI VYJAYANTHIMALA BALI: Will the Mini~ter 01 CULTURB be 5682. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT.. pleased to state : NAIK: Will the' PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) wbether iu the year between 1981 to 1984 there was any financial a~istanc:e (a) whether there is a great need to or grant or any other kind of help lucb as increase the output of computers in the land, buHding, given to aoy individual, country; performing artist, public and private insClta (b) if so, the steps taken to boost com tion from the Miniltry of Culture; and puter output; (b) if 80, tbe names of ahe artist aDd (c) tbe incentive proposed to be provided the, institution. belolJlinB to whicb State for this purpose during the year 1985-86; aDd and the criteriOQ for sucb a~.istaDoe aDd srant and its utilisation particulars? (d) tbe target fixed for tbe production of computer~ for 1985·86? THB MIN[STBR OF STATB IN THB THE MIN1STBR OF STATE IN THB MINISTR.Y OF PBRSONNBL ~ND TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVB MINISTRY OF 'SCIENCB AND TECH· RS· FORMS AND P'UBLIC ORIEVANCBS NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS AND PBNSION AND IN THB DEPART· OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC MBNT OF CULTUR.E (SHRI· K. P.· ENERGY. SPACE ... AND BLECTRONICS SINGH DEO) : (a) yo~. Sir. (SHRI SHIVRAJ v. PATIL) : (a) Yes. Sir. (b) Government ,.nnoutlced new com (b) The informadoD'i. heinl' c6tb...... , puter policy on 19·11·1984 to enable manu aDd will be laid on the Ta bfc of tbe ao.. facture of .computers based OD ·,be laleat in due counc. . ~. 18~ VA1SAJt8A II, 19.81 (SAKd) , • I. ,,>. CIearaee of Laad ID Krl.baa Dlltrlct UD"" ' their recommendations and discussed them N 8larJo.8 Salar CaDal SfltelJl with tbe concerned Ministries/Departments, to accept them for implemen!a lion: 5684. SHRI V. SOBHANADRBBSWARA RAO: Will the PRIMB MINISTER be (C) jf so, how rar tbe recommendatioDS pleased to Ita te : have been implemented by them; wbether DepartmeD' of Poreat bas (d) whether the Stares and Union qdam Major in MyJavaram Taluk (i) Territorits were also called for discussion Kakarla Major in Tiruvuru (aluk (ii) Vel OD tbe Report and if SOt the reaction of the vadam Major in M)'Java ram Ta luk (iii) States thereto; and MarUl~malli Minor in Muzvid Taullt, etc. all in, Krishna distric.. under r- a.arjuna (e) if Dot, the reasons therefor? Sagar Canal System; . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (b) whether it is a fact tbat tbere is no MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS forest a t the places concernc: d ; and (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : (a) The main recommedations of ahe Com. (c) jf 60 when tbe proposal regarding mittt'e on Orientation of Forest Education dr·llina of these canals will be cleared by tbe in India included : Porest Department? ' (i) suitable revisio:l of th~ syllabUI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for training of forest officia', to MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND provide adequa te perspective to FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) Two them on tribal problems; proposa I~ were received from tho· Slate (iI) Forest Research Institutes aDd Gevernment of Andhra Pradesh under the Colleges to monitor tribal develop provisions of the Forest (Conservation) ment orientation programmes of Act, 1980, for the release of (orest ·Jands forest officials and coordinate for tbe construction of Kakarla Major research proarammes connecled canal, Velvadam Major canal aDd Marbtu with shifting cultivation, forest Ii Krishna mal Minor canal in District. village development etc.; (b) No. Sir. (Hi) train!ng of Planning and Develop (C) The aforesaid proposals of the ment officers and personneJ work State Government' lacked certain esscntial ina in tribal areas in foresuy; details and hence the Slate Government of Andhra Prad~sh has been requested to (IV) provision of appropriate curri furnisb such additional information to oulum at different 'evels of school facilitate an early decision in the matter. aod bisber education in fores,try; No reply has been received from the Scate and Government. (v) Deed for crea tion of a CouDcll Reco.meaclatJoos 01 Committee OD 'of Forest Research and Education and incJusian of forestry as ,an Orlea,tatioD of For.. t Edueadoa J. optioDa I subject in comp:litive IDdla examinations. 5685. SHRl OIRIDHAR GOMANOO: (b) to (0). The recommendations m.de. Will the Minister of HOMB AFF'AIRS be 10 the report have been brought to tho' pleased to state ~ notice of aU State OovernmenlsJUaioD Territoriel aad concc,rned Central (a), tbo 'main recommendationa of tbe. Ministries. The Upive-raity'" Gtanta COlJtl. committee on ·Orienta lion of PONSt ' , mission bas already circulated revised .ui'de Edocatioa in Indi.' .contained fD~heir , lioes for reatructutina of COUIIICI iD Inal report to Government; vlrious faoulties. The NatioDaJ Bao'k f. AJa-i'cultural and Rural D~veJopmeDf "avo desiped '. Dew course for Ba Il'k perioDae' ,'" d~) ': "be"be~ O~~:r,,,mcD"t bav. e•• mi'D~d , ~ '. I, • " , , ' , ' ~ " ' ~ I ' 18' keeping in view the recommendations of tbe . (b) and' (C). No 'such peace panel has Co'mmittee. The State Govermnents/UniotJ yet been rorm'ed by the followers' of Sbri Territories bave favourably reac'ted 'to tbe Lalden,s. recommenda tions and are taking action' on the fines suggested. Pattern of Ceotral Aid to States Vayudoot Senices iu Soutbern Part of tbe 5688. SHRI O. G. SWELL: Will the Coualry Minister', of PLANNING be pleased to state : 5685. DR. O. VIJAYA gAMA RAO : (a) whether the Government of Assam SHRI C. ~4ADHAV REDOI : has requested for a change in the pattern WiJl the Minister of TOURISM AND of central aid; CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to stale: (b) the na.ture of the request; and (a) whether the proposal to' 'st~rt (C) Gov{ rnment's reaction thereon? Vayudoot ftlghts in the' Southern part of the coun~ry has since been finalised; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so. the names of the cities whkh MINISTRY OF PLANNING,; {SHRI K. R. are likely to be benefited by this service; NARAYANAN) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. aod The Government of Assam has asked for a change in the pattern of Central assistance (c) the time by which flIghts will start for the State's PJan to 90 per cent grant functioning? and 10 p.:r cent loan in pIJce of the exist. ing pattern of 30 per cent grant aDd 70 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THe per cent loan. MINlSTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL ASHOK GEHLOT): AVIATION (SHRl (C) Cencral assi,tance to the extent of (a) fO (c). Vayudoot has commenced opera 90 per cent grant and 10 per cent loan as tions in the Southern part of the country new requested by Assam Government is with effect from 6·4-1985. At present, it is already being given for Ihe development operating to the stations of Hydl.!rabad. PJans of the hill areas in Assam. The present Cuddapah, Rajamundry, Tirupllhi, Mysorc: request of the Government of Assam and BangaJore. Warrangal is proposed to implies extension of this pa Hcro of assist .. be airlinked shortly. ance to the entire State which requires to be examin,ed in the context of the overall Progress of Talks with LaJdenga pattern of Central a.ssistance applicable to all States. 5687. SHRI G. G. SWELL: Will the Minister of HOMB AFFAlRS be pleased Alert on BSF In 1'rlpura to state! 5689. SH'RI G. O. SWELL': Wi)) the (a) tbe progress of the talks with the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased Mizo leader. La Idenga, for the settlement to state: of the Mizo problem; (a) · whether on April 3.. 4, 1985, Border (b) whether while tbese talks afe going Security Forces on the Amjadnagar .. Be)onia OD, his followers in Mizoram .ha ve formed . of Tripurats international bouDdary with a peace panel; and Bansladesh ,were aJ~rted ; and (C) tbe objectives of the peace panel (b) if so, tbe reasons therefor? and wbethel Governmen t have assessed the,. UQQcrtcD!S of such a move ? THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF HOME APFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH~ , (SHRrMATl . RAM DULARI SINHA): MINISTRY OF HOME' AFFAIRS (a) Yes, Sir. (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (8) The talks with Shri Lllden.. ttre sriB (b) The ,Government of 'Tripura had CODtiouiol· requested tbe SSP to provide prote<:tloo' , to ,,189 ~",.,., VAISAlC.Q~ 11, ,.,~ (SAKA) .4nswr8 J90 ' I" I """NII WrlJt~n '" I. < '.' tbe civil labour so tbat tbe construction THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of an embankment on the Indian" side ' of MINISTRY OP SCIENCE AND TECH .. the Atbai Nallah Dear Amjadoalar could be NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART .. compt~ted. BSP troops in tbe area were M,ENTS OF OCEAN DBVELOPMBNT, alerted to ensure that this work WAS com. ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND pleted without any obstruction. ELECTRONICS lSHRf SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) and (b). The matter is under Ge.etle EDgloeeriDa Centre uader VNIDO consideration. 5690. SHRI G. G. SWELL; Will (be Expenditure by SOC on Medah, Uniform., PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : , Kits, etc. (8) whether the site for campus (or 5692. SHRI SURESH KURUP: WilJ Genetic Engineering Centre under UNIDO the Minister of YOUTH AFFAIRS AND has been selected; SPOR TS be pleased to state : (b) whether the Director for the Centre (a) how much money was spent by has been ;appoinred ; and Special Organising Committee. for I IXth (c) if not, the reasons (or the deJay 1 Asian Games on medals, uniforms 'and press kits; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) ~ow much of the above material MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO· was unused and the reasons thereof? LOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC . THE MINJSTER OF STATE IN THB' ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH APFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Yes, AND SPORTS (SHRI R.K. JAI Sir, the site for the New D.:Jhi component CH'ANDHRA SINGH): (a) D.:tails of of the International Centre for Genetic expenditure incurred by the Special Engineering and Biotechnology (leGEB) Organising Committee are: has been selected. In lakhs (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The Director for the Centre has not yet been appointed. (i) Medals Rs.21.20 According to the statutes of the Centre, (ii) Uniforms Rs. 66.06. the Director is to be appointed by tbe Board of Governors which consists of all (iii) Press Kits Rs. 3.30 member countries of ICGBB. The coming into existence of the Centre and the Rs.90.56 appointment of the Board of Governors will have to wait till. the statutes are ratified by minimum of 24 countries. (·In addition, uniform items worth Ratification is now is in progress. about Rs. 20 lakhs were procured free against official suppliers sta tus). FI,e Da,s Week Inlndiaa Space Researela Organisation (b) Value of itmes still lying unused are: 5691. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to In lakhs state: --- (i) Medals Rs.2.15 (8) whether the orde~ relarding (U) Uniforms Restricted Holidays and five days a week Rs. 1.83 implemented in tbe BARe one. year ~80 (Hi) Press Kits Rs.0.63 are proposed to be implemented In Indian Space Research Organisation; and --."..- Rs. J1.21 (b) if n,Otl l~e reasons therefo!'? .' ...... , ' --- f:iI' 191 MAY 8, Il"IJ Some of. the r.-aODa for surpl_", ',&0l"Il (s",n,II1 are: DeJq ID lAC Flfa.t NOI. 497 &lid 4,. (I) Certain dumber or excels medal. bad to be lot made, as possibility S694. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: of ties in different lamca could Dot Will tb~ Minister of TOUR.ISM AND be ruled out. CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state : (it) UDiforms were .filched OD aU· fa) whether lAC Bight Nos. 497 aod India pattern of sizes' and some 498 are delayed every day on their forward excesS was ioevilllbJe. Ind return journeys; [ Tranl/atlon) (b) if so, tbe reaSOD therefor; DacolUel Committed fa lad.. (c) whether maDY traveUiOI passen8en . including some M.P.s have lodged com 5693. SHRI KALYAN SINGH plaints several times in tbe complaint books SOLANKI : \\'ill the Minister of BOMB of tbe Indian Airlines about the frequent AFFAIRS be plea'td to slate: delays; (d) if so, the dates OD which s~:ch (a) the tOlal number of dacoities com complaints were made ; and miitteed in India during 1985·86 till date an d how does this figure compare with the (e) the action taken thereon? n mber of luch incideo.tl in ether pro· muncot couDtries of the world ; THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL (b) whethe r Government have formulat AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK OEHLOT): ed .any national level scheme to check this (8) Durin, tbe months of January, February criminal tendency; and March. 1985 fti,hts lC-497/498 were deJayed on eleven, thirteen and fifteen (c) if 10, the de ta iI, thereof; aDd occesions respectively; (b) The delays were mostly due to bad (d) if not, tbe reasons theretor' I weather and consequential detays as the earlier flilbts operated by tbe same aircraft THEM INISTER OF STATB IN THE had been delayed. MINISTRY OF HOME APFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULAItI SINHA) : (a) (c) Yes, Sir. to (d). Tbe State Governments and Union Territory Admi n istra lions are responsible (d) These complaints were made 00 for enforcing laws relatjng to offence •• 17th February. 21st February, 29th Number of dacoi ties for the year 1985·86 February. 9th April, 13th April aDd 15th in not available for tbe country_ No data April, 1983. rOlarding total Dumber of dacoitiel com mitted in prominent countries of tbe world Ce) Due to the accident to one B-737 at is compiled. 'Public order' iocludio8 crime, Calcutta on 8th February, 1985 ftiaht Ie .. beiDa a State subject, there is no specific 498 bad to be .operated by the aircraft scheme under consideration at tbe national operating the incoming fJ'gbt IC·492. The level. However, tbe Planning CommissioD rescheduling caused consequential deJays to have set up a Working sroup for the deve lC-497. Indian AirHnes propose to resolve lopment of dacoity.. prone areas of Uttar this probl"m in tbe summer schedule. Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and RaJasthan. Re-Earorce.eat of.B.S.F. aad C.R.P.F. Por the delibera t ions of the workina ,roup. the State Governments were asked to live BattaltODl I. Tripara tbeir proposals for the devolopment of tbe 5695. SaRI AMAL DATTA: Will tbe dacoity-prone ar~as in their States, The Minister of HOME APFAIRS be pleased d_il. of tbe ('evelopment projects received to state: from the States have been submitted to tbe worldns aroup. (a) wbether Government 0' Tripura ••ked for re-enforcement of B.S.P••• 4 to be taken by Government in near futuro C.R.P.P, battalions in the State; to develop sports activities amobg tbe tribal I ",.I people of our country; and (b) if so, to what cxtent and reasons for the same ; and (b) the details tbereof ? (c) wbat bas been the response of THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE Oovernment Co sucb request? DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS (SHRI R. K. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE JAICHANDRA SINOH) : (a) and (b). Witb MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS a view to encouraging sports activities in (SHRIMAT.I RAM DULARI SINHA): the country including among tribal people, (a) to (c). The Tripur"a Government bad Central Government in concert with the requested for deployment of ODe BSF State Governments and U. T. Administra battalion for strengthening border and also tions have a Dumber of schemes in opera for deployment of two Assam Rifles tion, whicb include (i) AII .. India Rural battalions for operations against extremists. Sports Tournaments (ii) Sports Talent One BSF batta lion was ~iven to Tripura Search Scholarships Seheme (iii) Scheme during July 1984 which is still continuing for grants to State Sports Councijs, etc. there. As Assam Rifl;s battalions could Under the Scheme of grants to Sta te Sports not be provided to Tripura, one additional Councils/Other Voluntary Bodies. State battation of CRPF was inducted into Govern01ent/U.T's are requested to ensure Tripura in April 1985. that as far as possible percentage of sports activities/facilities allocated in tribal areas Development of Tourism in Digha, Midnspur should not be less than the percentage of In West BeDgal tribal population in those &tates/Union Territories. 5696. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND Th!' on-going programmes as mentioned CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to stare: above will continue in 1985 .. 86 with in creased outlays. A new scheme of pro (8) the steps Government h&ve taken motion of sports in outlying areas is also during the Sixth Plan period to develop proposed. tourism at Oigha ; E.T. aDd T.D.C'. OrOee at Los Angles (b) the steps Gove~nment propose to take during the Seventh Plan period to 5698. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: develop tourism at Digha, Midoapore, Will tbe PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to West Benga I ; and state: (c) tbe details tbereof ? (a) since when the Electronics Trade THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Technology Development Corporation MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL is hiving its office at Los Angles and which AVIA TION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT):. are other countries where tbe said Corpora· (8) to (c). In the Sixth PJan, the Depart tion runs its offices; ment aareed in principle to provide fuods (b) the annual expenditure in each for tbe construct jon of a tourist lodge and country and income during the last three cottages at f)igha at an estimated cost of years giving country/year-wise break-up; . Rs. 40.17 laths. This scheme will be executed during the Seventh PJan period. (c) the mode of recruitment of staff! officers witb year-wise strcD,th during the Developmeat of Sports 8mODI Trlbals last three ycars·; ~697. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA (d) whethcr E.T. and T.D.C. cbarges Will the Minister of Y06TH AFFAIRS service charges for exports from the manu AND SPOR.TS be pleased to state: (actuters ; and .(8) tb~ steps taten 80 rar or propose4 (0) if so, r~aODS tberef()l' ? W,'tten Anl"~" , MAY 8, 1'91$ THB MINISTBR' OF STATE IN THE Corporation bad ,2 more oBices. one It MINISTRY OF SCIENCB AND mCH Warsaw aDd other at MOlow. Howe"er, NOLOOY AND IN THB DEPARTMBNTS the executives at these offices were called OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC back during Mar~h, 1982/May, 1982 and ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS substitutes have not been. posted yet. (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (8) The Los Angeles Foreign Office started function (b) Fisures regarding annual income ing from 20-12-1978. It was converted into and expenditure of these offices are given a trading office from September, 1979. The below: (Rupees in Lakhs) Year L.A. Office Warsaw Office Moecow Office ------...... ,_ ..... _ ------Income Expo. Income Expn. Income Bxpn. 1981.82 6.05 6.23 3.03 1.62 1982-83 8.62 8.56 0.76 1983·8 t 5.46 8.56 NOTE: The Warsaw and Mo~cow offices are in the nature of liaissoD offices and hence the income from these offi~es is accounted for in the income of the company. For 1983·84 the expenditure in respect of these offices was 'NIL' as the executives posted had been recalled early in 1982 and DO replace ments were posted. (c) Recruitment of staff is through (d) and (e). Yes. Sir. Nominal service notification of va<:ancies to the concerned charges a re levied by ET and T for render· Employment Exchange in respect of posts ing services such as locating markets, inter falling under the purview of Employment facing with foreign bUyers, participafiog in Exchange (CNV) Act, through absorption exhibitions to display Indian products etc. of trained apprentices under (he apprentices Being a commercia 1 organisa tion only Act, and in other cases by press advertise rea&onabJe service charaes are levied based ment. Officers of the Corporation are on expenses. recruited through Press Ac.Jvertisement. Campus SeJections in leading educa tiona 1/ Inquiry CommlssloD traillios institutions, besides by promotion of eligible staff as per rules .., 5699. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAOA : Will' the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Year-wise strength of officers and Stoff pJ~a8ed to state: during past thre, years (a) the number of Inquiry Commissions constituted by Government during the last Years Officers Staff Total lbr~e years and for what purpose; (Non-executive) (b) the number out of tbem which have submi tted their reports ; . 1981·82 96 116 212 (c) how maD), are still \\Iorkin, and 1982-83 79 128 207 how many have become defunt ;' and 1983·84 90 148 238 (d) how mQcb expenditgrc ll •• ~eQ Wrltt". A..",." incurred OD them so far, aivio. year-wise (b) and (C). The aircraft fleet of the break-up for the above period? two airlines is being used to the optimum extent taking into account tbe pattern ot THB MINISTER OF STATB IN THB opera tions. MINISTRY OF HOMB AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (d) and (e). There is no proposal to (8) to (d). The information is being col. merge the two airlines. Indian Airlines and lected and will be laid on the "Table ot tbe Air Illdia are. however, jOintly conducting a House. study to identify spare capacity. if any. and how best to utitise the same. Capacity utillsatloB of Air ladla aDd lodlaD Airlines [Tran.s /atlo1l] 5700. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Will the Minister of TOURISM AND National Wasteland Development Board CIVIL AVIATION be pJeased to state : 5701. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAOA : (0) the details of ftp.ets owned by Air SHRI C. JANOA REDDY: India and Indian Airlines aloDswith the DR. A. K. PATEL: capacity in each case ; Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (b) whether both the airlines do not state: have full utilisa tion ; (8) whether be had announced on 5th (c) if so, the percentage of unutilisa January, 1985 that every )ear 50 Jakh tion in each airline with reasons for the hectares of land would be utilised for san1e ; growing grass and planting trees for fire wood purpose and a National Wasteland Cd) whether there is any proposal to Development Board wouJd be set up for m~r8e both the airlines in respect of declaring it as a national programme; manational and international routes for better utilisation of the available capacity; (b) jf so, the steps taken by Govern and ment for the implementation of the pro.. gramme; (e) if not, reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the amount of money set apart for MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL this purpose during the curt'ent year; and AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) The details of the fleets of Air India (d) the State.. wise acreage of national and Indian Airlines are as under": wasteland being utilised or proposed to be utilised for planting. trees for firewood and AI, India growing grass for the animals? Type of aircraft Number Seat capacity THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND BoeinS 707 5 146 FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (8) Yes. BOOiol747 10 377 Sir. A3004 BA 3 238 (b) The foUowin, steps were taken. Indian A Irlln~' 1. A National Wastelands Develop. ment Board bas been set up_ Type of air.:raft Number Sea t capa chy , A300B2/B4 10 273/271 2. The Governments in the States and Uolon Territo,ries have 126 'B:"'Y37 25 been requested to identify suita P 27 8 44 ble areas for", afforestation ~ :. r .',,' duriog· 1985·86 aod· initiate 88148 11 48 prepar. tory acdon. ' 3. Detailed discussions were under (b) if 10. tbe details thereof; and taken with senior offici aIs or all Stato Governments. (c) when these Anti-Pollution Boards are likely to st.art functioning? 4. Detailed discussions were also THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB undertaken with non-Govern MINISTR Y OF ENVIRONMENT AND mental organisations connected FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) No. with"!'!work relating to afforesta Sir. tion programme. (b) and (c). Does not arise. (c) The Seventh Plan outlays arc yet to be finalised. "Em issions of Sulphur Dioxide and Nitrogen (d) Extent of total area available is to Oxide." be determined by the States. 5704. SHR'I K. RAMACHANDRA [English] REDDY: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: "Pollution by Badarpur P~wer Plant" (a) whether any accurate studies have been made in the country on total quantity 5702 SHRIMATI OBBTA MUKHER of emission of sulphur dioxide and ni tJ ogen JEE : Will the PRIME MINISTER be oxide; pleased to state: (b) if so full details thereof for the last (a) whether Government are aware of three yea rs; a study undertaken by Kalpaoriksh, an environmental action group 00 the dange (c) wlleteer the quantum of these emis rous health hazards' to the population of sions is comparable area-wise to those in Moland Band, Badarpur area and to the the western countries such as Sweden; workers of the power plant due to con~tant coal dust settling on them from Badarpur (J) if so, details thereof; Power Plant; (..:) \vheth~r the quantum of emissions (b) if SOt the reaction of Government has decreased in the country due to tbe to the demands raised by them; mas~ive efforts of Department. of E"viron ment; (c) whether Badarpur Power Plant authorities are violating the rules of Central (f) the percentage of emISSion from Pollution Control Board; and road traffic eu l of tbe to ta I emissions; and (d) if so. the remedial actions taken/ (8) whether these could be reduced by propos~d ? eliminating Jead in petrol and its replace ment with alcohol? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) to (d). MINISTR Y OF ENVIRONMENT AND Information is being co)]ected and will be FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) and (b). laid on the table of the House. No study has been made on the total emis sions of sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxide "Anti. Pollution Boarda" in the country. However, studies conducted in 13 cities of tbe country indicate that 5703. SHRI R. PRABHU: Will the the ambient levels of sulphur dioxide and PRIMB MINISTER be pleased to state: nitrogen oxide are below the prescribed limits and lower, than those of western (a) whether it is proposed to set up countries. atiti-pollution Boards ia respect of impor tant river valleys such as Godavari. Nar (c) and (d). No assessment has. bcea JDada. Kaveri, etc.; mado 10 rar. VAtSAItBA R~ tto? (SA.r~) (0) to (I). Countrywide status OD the being liven full relief a5sistance. Govern-· contribution of road traffic to the tot.al ment hopes that conditions is Sri Lanka emissions is not available. However, in improve so tha t the refugees in India caD Delhi the cOD~ributioo or traffic emissions return home in safety and dignity. is of the order of 40%. Decline in Foreign aud National Tour',ts. By eliminating lead in petrol, the '0 KashmIr emission of Sulphur Dioxide and nitrogen oxides wiJJ not be affected. Replacement 5706. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Will with alcohol will affect it. the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL A VIA TION be pleased to sta te : Return of Persons of Indian Origin Setlled Abroad (a) the number of ford gn and national touris t; who visi ted the Kashmir Valley, 5705. SHRI JAOANNATH PATTNAJK : year-wise for the last there years cnding W ill the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 31st December. 1984; pleased to state : (b) whether tbe number of both cate (8) the number of persoos of Indian gories of tourists have dwindled; a.nd origin settled in foreign countries (other '(C) if so, the reasons therefor? than Pakistan and Bangladesh) who had 'to Bee to Ind;,a to settJe here during the last THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 20 years; and MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (b) how Government of India propose (a) As per the information available from deal with the problem? the State GoverAment, the tourist arrivals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Kashmir Valley, during the last three years were as given below: MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA) :' (a) About 2.17 lakh persons of Indian Origin Foreign Indian Total have come to India from Burma, Ugloda, Vietnam and Zaire during tbe last 20 years. 1982 42,851 560,987 603;838 In the last two years since July, 1983 1983 41,101 398,428 439,529 as a result of ethnic violence in Sri Lanka, a total nunber of 87.763 pt!fsons have come 1984 35.575 189,157 224,732 to India upto 1-5-1985. (b) Yes, Sir. (b) Persons from Burma who had applied for resettlement assistance within (C) The set-back the tourism in Kashmir the prescribed time limits were given Vdlley was mainly due to internal distur necessary relief and rehabilitation assistance bances in J and K. and Punjab and tbe according to the approved pattern for reset adverse media publ ici ty a broad. tlement in agriculturtf and small tradel business. Some of tbese persons were also Tribal WelCair Programmes In Orissa provided witb employment. The residuary worle concerning persons from Burma S707.ISHRI RADHAKANTA DIOAL : would be completed wi thin the Seventh Will tbe Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Plan period. pleased to state: R.egarding persons who came from (a) 'the Centrally Sponsored Tribal Upnda. Vietnam and Zaire, they have Welfare Programmes under implementatioa settled themselves is the djft'treot States. in Orissa at present; Those Sri Lankan refugees ,who have (b) since wben tbose programmes b .. ,GUaItt adm.iss'ioo to our relief ~a I'D,. at:'e beeD launched in PbuJban'i d:sltict.: (c) the amount spent in implcmentinl an imporfant part in pest manasameat. ao thole programmes Phulbani and other iDtergrated approach combining the use of districts in the State; and resistant varieties. biological control lech· niques and modified cultural practices (d) the details of the numb~r of where appropriate, tosether with judicious Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes who use of chemical pesticides, can offer better have been benefited under those pro prospects for Jong- ternl control and reduced grammes? environmental demage while increasing the m~rgin between benefits and tbe costs or THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE control measures. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): Use of pesticidjes as well as Olber (8) to (d). The information called for, from control Olea!)Ui (I) should a )ways be the the State Government is awaitt:d and wilJ result of a considered evaluation that the be laid on the Table of the Houst later. benefits to he gained outweigh the direct and indirect costs. in-so-far as these can be asse,sed . • e Use of Pesticides to Avert Damage to Health and EnvirODment" Every effort ~bcuJd be made to promote 5708. SHRJ RADHAKANTA l)IGAL : the Inlegreted Pest l\ianagement concept. Wi)) the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Pesticides should be viewed as a short .. term solution. The overall control of pest sta te : populations should be attempted by other (a) whether IBRD has issued any method~t such as tht: use of crop varieties guidelines regarding use of pesticid~s to which are resistant or tolerant to the pest, aVt:rt danulge both to health and the bi0logi~al control, and cultural practices environment; etc. (b) the salient features of the guide .. Where ever possible, narrow-spectrum lines; and pesticides materials shourd be selected which are affective against the pest species 'c) whether Government h~ YC taken but cause mini. urr) harm to other useful steps to implement these guidt.:lines ? insects Le. natural enemies. AppJication methods and timing also should be aimed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at minimizing the risk of harming these MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND natura I enemies. FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) Yes Sir. The World Bank has issued guidelines To reduce the development of pesticide for the' selection. procurement and use of resistance, as few chemica) pesticide appli pesticides in Bank-financed projects. cations as possible should be resorted to. For the control of agricultural pests, only (b) The details of the guidelines are those chemicals should be used whicb are liven in the attached statement. not being used for con trol of human disea ses in public health sector. (c) The majority of the guidelines ale covered under the Insecticides Act, 1968 B. Handliol. ~toralle and Application S afet, and are, therefore, already enforced. The rest of the guidelines are also followed in ~t is essential that proper precautions principle. be taken in the, packaging, transport, storage and disposal of pesticides aDd Statement surplus pesticide containers; and the neces sary equipment and proper in trainio, in The salient features of the 8uidelioes application techniques be ,provided to tbe are liven below :- users. A. Pest and Pesticide Management Practices Standards of ,pa~ka,li.o1 of pesticides While pesticides win continue to play abould be specified. ,Clear· and d~"" IabenlDI of aU packales' 10 depict tbe . eODtahler. end caUiDa on specialists hazardous D8 ture of tbe contents should in pest control when problems arise. , alway. be re:qufred. The labels sbould be Training should include the storaae and iD 80 appropdate Janguage. To avoid handling of concentra tes, dilutjon and hazards in the f{ ·U~e of pesticide COD mixing, application techniques and suitable taine~sJ maLufacturers should be encouraged ap~Jication t'quipment. cleans ina and main to· design containers which discourage such taining spary equipment and precautions to re-use and to adopt the type of container avoid environmental demagc through spray where a suitabJe desisn already exists. For drift of Jeaching into streams groundwater. a lituation, where accidents may occur, endaDacrins the sta1f, people nearby and c. Selecion or Pesticide Materials aDd the surrouDding environment, an assessment of tbe following would determine the Pe&ticide FormulatioDs adequacy of :- This should take account of safety and (8) the warning systems installed which effectiveness of elternatives under Jocal would alert staff and the public to climatic and anvironmental conditiotll. an emergency; their compatibility with Integrated Pest Management etc. (b) the established procedures to deal with such an emergency including Chlorinated hydrocarbon insecticides evacuation of people if it should be have cho racteristks of excessive persistence necessary; in the environment, bioaccumulation in tissues, biomegnification in food chains and (c) tbe availability and working order in some cas~s carcinoger.icity of cause of emergency equipment; and genetic abnorma rities. They should not be used for agricultural purposes but may be (d) tbe training of staff and their considered for use in public health. regular practice of emergency drills. When pesticides are to be used on food To prevent contaminat ion in the pro crops it should be ensured as far as possible cess of pesticide distribution. food materia Is that FAOjWHO maximum residue Jimit should never be transported simulta neously recommendations will not be exceeded. wi th pesticides. Where such materials are to be used OD food crops for export, compliance with Persons handling concentrated materials such accepted residue iimits or' tolerances should have protective face shields or established by the importing country must gogles, goggloves aprons and footwear and be as&ured. Selection of pesticides should bo should be, adequately supervised. based on a careful evaluation of possible' hRZ8rcf to the environment and to important Oeperators and supervisory staff naturul re'sources. engaged in regular spraying operations 'should be trained in the specific first aid D. Procuremeol or Pesticides procedures for poisoning relating to the material being used. In precurment of pesticides attention should he given to the efficacy of the mate Where pesticides are being supplied to rial and to the cost per uoits area. farmers it is essential tbat materiaJs are scl~ted which can be applied safeJy and The specifica tions of tender shoqld 'c8"octi Vllit of Pore11ft Secretary to Neighbour... ExpeadJture 011 Sarkaria CODlIDIIlIoD Couatrles 5710. SHR.I HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will tbe Mjnister of HOMB AFPAIRS be 5709. SURI B.V. DESAI: pJesed to stBk : SHRr AMAR ROYPRADHA~ SHRI N P. JHANSI LAKSHMI: (a) the expenditure incurred on Sarkaria Commission so far; SHRI MAHENDRA ~J.NGH : SHRI JAGANNATH PATTINAIK! (bi the strength of the staff of Sarkaria SHRI BALASAHEB VJKHB Commission; and PAT1L: (C) the particulars regarding the SHRI ANAND SINGH: members of Sarkaria Commission and tbeir resp~clive designa tions iu the Commission? Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to stale: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (a) whe.ther the Foreign Secretary as (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): Prime Minister's special envoy had under (a) Total expenditure on the Commission taken a tour of various neigbbouring upto 31-3-1985 is Rs. 45.85 lakhs.' couDtries during tbe month of April 1985 to discuss the bila tera,} problems; (b) Tota I sanctioned strength of the staff of tbe Commission is 123. (b) the countries Foreign Secretary (C) Particulars about M~mbers of the visited; Commission are as given below : (c) if so, the outcome of the discussions 1. Justice R.S. Sarkaria. Chairman. a retired Judge of the beld; and Supreme Court. (d) whether conerete formula has been 2. Shri B. Sivaraman Member. evolved to improve the relations with those formerly Cabinet Secre- countries and a 1so to undertake certair: tary to Govt. of India steps for achieving the same? and Member t Planning Commission. THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 3. Dr. S.R. Sen, formeJy Member. (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN) : Executive Director representing India in 'and (b). Foreign Secre tary '8 visits to neighbouring countries were undertaken World Bank and pre in pursuance of Prime Minister's initiative sently a Directors, of to further improve relations with them and the Boa rd of Directors, create a climate in which specific issnes can Reserve Bank of India. be tackled. The countries visited during the month of April, 1985 were Nepal (April Scbeduled Castes Developmeat 1-2), Pakistan (April 4-6), Afganistan COf'pOratioDS (April 12-13) and Bangladesh (A priJ 15-16) . 571t. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: Will the Minister of HOMB (C) and (d). The purpose of tbe visit was AFFAIRS be pleased to state : to creote a proper atmosphere for the (a) tbe State·wise number of Scheduled further improvement of our relations with Castes Development Corporations sot up our neighbours, and to exchange views on 80 far; and all issues of bilateral ,nd international interest. '. beto.iDI'" to tho Scheduled Ca•• If.iDI (a) There are 17 Scbeduled Calte. Deve bel'ow" poverty line wbo blve beea benefited lopment CorporatioDl set up 'jn the ,States durio'. the la,at tbtee years by tbe Scheduled aad 2 in tbe Union TerritorJes. C.,t. Development Corporations? (b) A statement,lbased on informatioD THE MINISTER OP STATB IN THB received from the States and Union Terri MINISTRY OP HOME APPAIRS tories, is annexed. (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): Name of States/u'rs who have set up No. of,Scheduled Castes families Scheduled Castes Development below Poverty lioe benefited Corporations during the last three years 1. RaryaDa 56,916 2. Himachal Pradesh 28.943 (upto 30-9-84) 3. Punbjab 36,320 4. Uttar Pradesh 2,28,66S S. Alldbra Pradesh 5,36,450 6. Karnataka 80,5Q7 7. Kerala 15,259 (upto Nov" 84) 8. Rajasthan 4,6S7 (upto 84) 9. Tamil Nadu 9,151 10. Bihar 44.322 47,274 11. Orissa 12. Tripura l.680 (1-3·82 to 30-9-84) 13. West Benaal 7,22,611 14. Gujarat 1.23.S52 27.732 (upto 84) IS. ~adbya Pradesh 16. Ma barash tra 1.12.850 2,863 (upto 84) 17. Assam 2,902 18. Delhi 1,705 19. 'Cbandiaarh COIDma.lty FIDe to Curb Untouchability offenders and siven to the sufferers/victims; Oll'eDCls aDd (C) whether is any possibility to take 5712. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD any legal step in this regard? SBTHI: Will the Minister of HOME APFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (a) whether there is any provision (SHRIMATI RAM DULAKI SINHA) : , uDdor the existcDJ law to award community (a> Yes Sir. there is a provision for impo "la~ ... iost tbe utouchabiUty offences; sition of collective fioe untoucbalilHy (b) whether tbe eapeoditure incurred offences uDder Section lOA of tDe Protee 9Q ayc:h ~OtDmuni tf tine i~ l?orne bf tbe ~~QD of c;ivil Ri,bts Act, 1955. 211 ·M~YB.l9I5 It2 (b) aDd (c). The reba bUha don measures a natioDa' security couDcil to ·ptO¥" for the sufferers/vi c·ti ms un touchabiUty orB,aDjs.tional structU.re ,to liDIe roreilD offences are taken by the concerned State policy ·objectiv~s with the other SPilt io Governments/U.T. Administrations irrespe technology, ·weapODS, trade aAd Inanee fa ctive of the fact where the collected receiving consideration of Government; amount of such fin·e is given to the Govern ment or sufferers. (b) if so, whether Government propoae to set up such a council; and Asss Itance of Central Reserve Police Force (C) if so, the details thereof and if not, Sought by States the reasons therefor? 5713. SHRI D.D. PATIL·: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sta te : MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS '" (SHRI KHURSHEBD ALAM KHAN) : (a) how many times assistance of to (c). Tbe Government of India are Centra 1 Reserve Police Force w~s sought aware tf at suggestions have been made for. by the State Governments during (he years the setting up of a National Security 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85; Council. There is no proposal. at present, for the setting up of such a council. The (b) th~ typ("s of incidents for which Government, however. realise the impor such' ~ssistance was sought; and tance of having an iotergrated view of (c) in how many casses Government Ind ia '8 securi ty t which incJudes foreign accorded to the requests of State Govern- policy, and wi)) continue to rC!view, frem ments'1 time to time, the efficacy of existing institutional mechanisms. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Production of Radio Receivers (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) to (c). Centfa~ Reserve Police Force is 5715. SHRI RAM RATAN RAM: primarily meant for assisting the State SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH Governments in the maintenance of Law MALIK: and order. Sta te Governments made ff'quests Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased from time to time for deployment of CRPF to sta te the steps taken by Government when the State Armed Police units are found for increasing the production of radio inadequate. As and when such requests are receivers in the country? received, the Central Governmant analyses the quantunl of force rtquired, the serious THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ness and urgency of situation, duration for MINISTRY OF SCJENCB AND TECH which the force is required etc. and sends NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS the CRPF to States taking into account OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC the demands received and the reserves ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS avaiJable at hand. The number of coys of (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : Government CRPF that were made available to various bas taken following steps for increasing tbe States/UTs for Jaw and order. duties during production of radio receivers < in the the period from March 19~2 to February country: 1985 is given in the attached statement laid on the Table of thg House. I. Broad banding of Industrial IIcence [Placed in Library. See, No. LT.II09/BSJ To optirnal1y utilise the investment, broad bandina lic~nce wHl be i ••lied Setting up of a National Security Council for cntertainme'nt electronics COYOf.. jog radio receivers, tape .. recorders, 5714. SHRI MAHENDRA SINO~: two.ln-ones, Amplifiers. Record Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Players, Record Cba'Dlers TV 'Sets be pleased to state: (Black and White and . Colout). CCTV Systems, but excludjll.l those (a) whether SU8gcstion for !leUin, up of reserved for ,mall s~10. .. W,.ltte,. AIIIW.,., 2'14 , 2. A"allability of jDdlgeaoos eo_PODeDtI electronic base in the country. However, at reBsoaable Price-It is proposed industries will be encourased to establish to de-reserve some of the compo inhouse technology base so tbat repeated nents, reserved for amall scale so import of technologies does not have to be that organised sectors could manu resorted to. facture them in large volume which will result in reduction of the cost (c) Yes, Sir. As regards import and of such com,ponents. marketing of such watches, metter is under considera tion. 3. AbOlition of radio licence fee Government has abolished Broad- (d) 'No, Sir. Government has no plan casting Radio Licence (BRL) aod to import VCRs and Colour TVs, etc. Dealers, Possession Licence (DPL). which will greatly help in opening up newer market chaonels specially "Institute for Research aod Study on in rural areas. Environment at Bhopal" 4. Radio Receivers manufactured by small scale units upto the cost 5717. SHRI PRATAP BHANU of Rs. 165/- are exempted from SHARMA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to s ta te : excise duty. Import Policy for Electronics (a) whether the Union Government have proposed an institute for research and 5716 SHRI S.B. RAMAIAH : Will study on environment at Bhopal in Madbya the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Pradesh; state: (b) if so, tbe details thereof; '(a) whether free for all imports policy (c) whether the foundation stone was for electronics is likely to affect indigenous laid by Jate Prime !,-finister Smt. Indira interests; Gandhi in 1982; and (b) if so, reasons for this shift in (d) if so, the progress of this project policy; uptil now? (c) whether the ,smuggled quarts, diaital . watches are seJUna at Rs.. 30-40 a piece aJ)d THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT ,AND jf so. whether. Government will import such watches in large quantities and market FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) No, Sir. tbrpUlb public distribution system untjJ SQch time the manufacture thereof is (b) to (d). Does- not arise. started in the country; and R~mmeQdations of Committee on .(d, wheth.er Government wilJ foHow Peaceful Uses of Outer Space s~ilar pra8m~ti~, policies in respe~t ~( VCRs aDd Colour TVs and ElectronIC 57J8. SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM: equipment for Doctors aDd professionals '1 Will tbe Minister of EXTERNAL APFAIRS be pleased to state: THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR.)( OF S.CIBNCE AND TECH (a) did the 39th United Nations Gene NOLOGY AND IN 'THB DEPARTMENTS . " , ral Assembly consider the recommeoetkms OF OCEAN DBVELOPMBNT. ATOMIC or the Committee on Peaceful' 'U~~,,;:' of ENB~GiY" SPACE AND .B~BCTRONICS Outer Spacelfi(COPUOS); (_I,.'Sa,IVkAJ y. IPATJ~): (a), ,od 1 THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THB Programme as well as on its review, coor MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS dination and follow up. Particular mention (SHRI KHURSHBED ALAM. KHAN) : may be made of progress towards the (a ) Yes, Sir. establishment of a Global System of Trade Preferences among developing countries; (b) The General As~embly adopted establishment of an Action Committee on Resolution 39/96 without a vote in which Fossil Fuels; setting up of a Multi-Sectoral is endorsed the report of COPUOS. Information Network and technical cooperation among developing countries. (C) The U.S. and other 'Hestern coun tries are of tbe view the proper forum for (b) India has played a positive and considerarion of militarization of outer dynamic role in the formulation of CPA as space is tbe Committee on Disarmament. well as in its implementa tion. We have participated actively in various technical Caracas Programme aod inter-Governmental meetings. India hosted sectoraJ meetings such as the 5719. SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM: Meeting of the Heads of National Agencies Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS on Science and TechnoJoBY, held in New be pleased to state : Delhi in May 1982 and the 0-77 S~mjnar Electrical Industry in September 1984. We (a) what is the Caracas Programme of have contributed US $ 60.000 to the 0 .. 77 Action and how far did it achieve its account, established by the Caracas objectives; Programme of Action. As Chairman of the Movement of Nonaligned Countries (b) part played by India to make the which has. as a key objective, the attain ·caracas' programme, a success; and ment of collective self-reliance among deveJoping countries, India bas endeavoured (c) if not succeeded, the reasons and to harmonise the Action programme for steps taken to over-come the obstructions? Economic Cooperation of tbe Movement of Nonaligned Countries with the activities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the CPA, therby reinforcing and streng MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS thening the Caracas Programme. (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): (a) The Caracas Programme of Action (c) Whi Ie there has been progress in (CPA) of the Group of 77 (developing furthering economic cooperation amona countries) is a comprehensive programme developing countries through the CPA, tbe of economic cooperation among developing attainment of its objectives would ncces countries (EeOC) adopted at a High Level $arily require a Jong-term perspective. Conference on ECOC at Caracas in May Among the constraints which need to be 1981. The objectives of tbe programme are overcome, tbe chief one is the inadequacy to strengthen solidarity and cooperation of resources. Various steps are being con. among developins countries based OD sidered to overcome this constraint, includ mutual interest and to promote their ing the feasibility of establisbing 8 Bank collective self-reliance as an integral part of developing countries. India is workins of the re-structuring of international closely with other developing countries to economic relations and the establishment ensure the morc effective implementatioD of a New International Economic Order. of the Programme. The Programme covers cooperation in tbe fields of trade, technology, food and Programme 01 Non-Aligned Countries OD 8lriculture, energy. raw materials. finance. Economic Cooperation industrialisation and -technical cooperation. It also provides for effective coordinatioD, 5120. SHRf N. VENKATA RATNAM: monitorjng, fo)Jow-up and evaluation of Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS the Proaramme. Considerable prosress has be pleased to state: been achiewd in tbe implementation of the Pro,ramme. A Dumber of meetings have (8) the detaili of the acHoD proaramme been held coverinl all seeton or tbe 08 the lCoDomic coopera4ion •• adopted' at· 21' New Delhi Summit of Non.aJiIDed (c) if Dot succeeded, the reasons there COUD tries; and . for; and (b) the result achieved so far? (d) the steps taken to overcome the obs tructions ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN) : MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (8) The Seventh Summit of Non-aligned (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN) : couD,tries adopted a wide-ranging Action (a) India, in its capacity as Chairman or Programme for Economic Cooperation to the Movement of NonaJigr.ed Countries, promote· collective self-reliance among has played a leading role promoting a Nonaligned and other developing countries. dialogue between North and South for The Action Programme identified several reforming the international monetary ·and spheres of cooperation under 23 specific financial systems. The late Prime Minister subjects. Coordinating Countries were Shrimati Indira Gandhi addressed messages also identified to coordinate future action to the Heads of Government of the major among Nonaligned countries in specific industriaHsed countries participating in areas. the Summit in London in June 1984. in which the need to consider a fresh initiative Details of the Action Pccgramme (or on the question of money and finance was Economic Cooperation are contained in the stressed; the proposal of the Seventh Final Documents of the Seventh Summit of Nonaligned Summit for an Intern~tjoDal Nona Jisned Countries available in the Conference on Money and Finance for Parliament House Library. Development reiterated; and the need to break the prevailJiog impasse in the Nortb .. (b) The Nonal sned countries have South dialogue emphasised. Personal actively sought to promote economic emissaries of the Prinle Minister also visited cooperation among themselves in accordance the capitals of the countries participating with the gaidelines Jaid down at the Seventh in the London Summit to explain our Summit. Severa) meetings, at expert, approach on North-South issues, parti .. offici a I and minis teria I levels, ha ve been cularly, in the fieJd of money and finance held to intensify economic cooperation and and to explore the possibility of beginning promote concrete action in such diverse some dialogue on these issues. areas as Food and Agriculture, HeaJth, Sports, Role of Women in Development, (b) and (C). Suggestions made by us HoUSing, Education & Culture, Standar were considered a t the London Summit disation, Measurment & Quality Control, and a personal emissary of the British Prime etc. Follow-up action in these and other Minh.ter visited Delhi after the Summit to fiolds is proceeding continuously and is an convey the response. The results of the integral part of the activities of the Non London Summi t were however somewhat aligned Movement. disappointing. The Economic Declaration issued by the Summit noted the concerns Dialoaue between North aDd South for of the developing countries but reaffirmed. International MODetary Systems the primary role of the existing Bretton Woods institutions for continuing discus- . 5721. SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM: sions on issues relating to money, finance Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS and development and did not offer much be pleased to s fa te : hope of a l'ew impetus to the North-South dialogue. Efforts made so far to refrom the efforts made by India to initiate tbe monetary and financial system .have a dialogue between North aDd South for not met· with much success largely due to imptovinl the interna tJona 1 monetary and the reluctance of the major industriaHscd . fio·aDcial sy.stems in tbe London Summit; countries to discuss the relevant issu". outside tbe Bretton Woods ins. itution. ' (b) how far. did India succeed in 'achiev- where they have a predominant say in tho iOI tbe object; . decision-makin, process. (d) India, 8S Chairman of the Move Bnergy Development Agency of the State ment of NonaJianed Countries, is Government. These projects are in addition· continuing its endeavours to promote 8 to the extensive programmes for family meaningful dialogue on international sized biogas plants, imploved cbulbas and economic issues. The la te Prime Minister solar thermal devices in U .P. had established a high level group of experts on money and finance. The report of the An Integrated Rural Enersy PJanni~1 group was transmitted by her to all Heads Proaramme had also been sponsored by the of State/Government of developed and developing countries. The United Nations Planning Commission in Uttar Pradesh~ involving all sources of energy, coventional will celebrate 'be 40th anniversary of the and 000- General Assembly of the UN tbis year in and non·coDvt-ntiC'naJ, commercial commercia 1. Toe fuoding for this progl'amme pursuance of an initiative taken by the Movement of Nonaligned Coun tries. Many is to be met from the State budget and Heads of State/Government are expected no additional Central funds, are beina to attend the ceremony. It is hoped that provided for this programme. this would provide a sigoificant opportunity for the international community to reaffirm (b) and (c). The integrated eDergy its commitnlent to the strengthening of project sanctioned by the Department of. multilateral cooperation and the United NOD-Conventional Energy Sources cover Nations system. 13 districts of the State and involve an out Jay of Rs. 74.36 lakhs from tbe~ Centre. Setting up of Non-Conventional Energy Since the Annual Plan for Uttar Pradesh for 1985·86 is yet to be finalised, the Project in Uttar Pradesh amount proposed to be spent from tbe State budget during 1985·86. is not yet 5722. SHRI HARISH RAW AT: Wi)) known. the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: "Formatfon:of bCounclis on!Envlrooment" (a) how many non .. conventional energy projects are proposed to be set up in Uttar S723. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will Pradesh under the Integrated Rural Energy tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Scheme during 1985.. 86; state: (b) how may districts would be benefited (a) whether central guidelines have been by these projects; and sent to various States for the promotion of (c) the amount proposed to be spent the council 00 Environment; on this programme in U.P. in durin. 1986-86 ? (b) if so, the name of the States wher.o.~ such couDci I has been set up; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE (C) whether such State Council on AND TECHNOLOGY AND IN Environment has ·beeo·" set up·"~ in ,Or.i •••; THB DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN and - DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) The Depart (d) if so, since when and . the-.. various ~ent of NCD-Conventional Energy Sources measures adopted by the Orissa State Coun.;i} on Environment for improvement"' b~s sanctioned and funded projects (or setting up integrated energy projects in of Bnvironment so far? I*, vUlases in Uttar Pradesh in 1985~86. The projects comprise various non-conventional THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE ene,raY 'devices and systems based on s.olar MINISTRY OF "ENVIRONMflNT AND e~rgy. cQmlnu.nity biosa,~ pJaDI.~" eoerl)' FORESTS '(SaRI VIR SEN): (8) 'to (d). ' p~ta~ions, etc. These p,rojects ar~ be.iQl,: T,lle in.fQrmt\tioD is beina .;oJjeQ.ted aDel wiU implemented through the n~,CD~v.entiQnaJ, be Jaid on the table lof the Ho~e•. " '. ~~'.\ ( Dinct AIr .Jlak· betw_ a ...... Dlreet ftlaltt between Bhubaae• .,ar aud Port BlaIr Bomba, aDd Vice-Jeri. 5726. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK : , 5724. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : WUI Will the Minister of TOURISM AND tbe Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL CIVIL AVIATION be pleas~d to state : AVIATION be pleased to state: (8) whether Government have examined tbe proposal for the introduction of a (a) whether Government bave a proposal direct Bight between Bhubaneswar and to· provide direct air link between Bbubane Bombay and vice-versa; aMf and Port Blair; (b) if so, the decisioll taken for implementing the above proposal; and (b) whether the_ proposal is expected to be iraplemented during the current financial (c) the date from which such proposal i. yoar; and expected to be implemented? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if SOt the steps taken in this regard? MIN1STRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT).: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (8) to (c). Indian Airlines has no plans to MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL introduce a direct flight· between Bhubane AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK OEHLOT): swar and Bombay. Indian Airlines, however. 5725. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will Turb propelled aircraft for Vayudoot tbe Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL Ser,'ce~ AVIATION be pleased to state: S727. SHRI SHANTARAM PQTDUKHB : Will the Minister of TOURISM AND (a) whether Government propose to set CIVIL AVATION be pleased to state: up a National Civil AViation authority to Jook after the civil airports in the COUll try; (a) whether Governnlent propose to usc turb ... propelJed aircraft for Vayudoot (b) if SOt when; services; and (b) the number of ajrcraft requisitioned (c) whether Government bave apPointed for' his purpose, if any? any committee in this connection; and TH,E MIN.lSTER OF STATE IN TIiB (d) if SOt the recommendations thereof? MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) and (b). Vayudoot has been operating THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THB services with turbo-prop aircraft F·27 aDd MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL HS 748 leased from Indian Airlines. At AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK. GEHLOT): present. the company has leased capacity (a) and (b). A pr~posal to set up a Civil equi\'aJent t04 turbo/prop aircraft. AViation Auth()rity which wi)) be responsible inter-alia (or the development, management Preservation 01 Quail Bird and maiDt~nance of domestic airports is under consideration. ~728. SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHI! : Will tbe .PRIMB MINISTER: ·:be ·ple,oed 10 ata-te : (C)I 'aDd· (d). ·Yes. Sir. The Committee . ihu· ftCOftll'Delldtd .tbo creation of a at•. tu,tory (a) wbether Quail Bird is under e~tinc~ ~1})AWatioD.· AutlaorU)'. tioa in th~ .~mala)'u; 23 . MAY 8.".5 (b) jf SO. tb·! efforts proposed by i ••ued an3' 'iosttuctioDS to the effect tbat the Government to presserve the same; and word 'under suspension' should be super scribed on the postal envelope addressed to (c) the other bird' species are uDder the ~ public servant under suspension, nor is tbe ,threat of extinction and Government efforts issue of any iustructions to this effect under to preserve them? consideration. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FI nanclal StatUJ or Central Government FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) and (b). Employees Consumer CooperatlYe SoeIet, There are five species of Quails known in the Himalayas. Of these, the Mountain 5730. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Quail is reported to be extinct. The other Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to four species are not considered endangered state : or threa tened with extinction. The species are afforded protection under the Wild Life (a) the financial status of the Central (Protection) Act, 1971. Government Employees Consumer Co operative Society Limited. New Delhi as OD (C) There are 38 spec1es and sub-species 1 January, 1985, and on 1 January, 1980; of birds included under Sc.hedule I of the Wild Life (Protection) Act, 1972. Of these, (b) \\hether the working of the Society the mountain Quail, the Jerdon's Courser, has improved during tbe last three years. if the Pink-headed Duck and Forest Spotted so, in what way; Owlet are reported to be extinct. Tbe rest are rare or endangered. However, as a (c) steps proposed to be taken to further result of conservation action taken in recent strengthen it so as to render grea ter service years, they arc not under tbreat of to Government employees; extinction. (d) whether a special audit has been Inscription or Word "Under Suspension" on ordered and jf so, the findings thereot; Postal Cover s (e) whether there is any proposal to 5729. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: bifurcate the stationery counter into three WilJ the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to four counters under independent charge of atate : persons manning them so as to bring about the desired improvement in its workins; (a) whether while addressing a com and munication to a public servant who has been placed under suspension, the word (f) if so. by when aod period or the tenure 'under suspension' is to be inscribed on the fi_ed" if any? postal envelope; THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB (b) if not, whether Government are MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND aware that some offices are putting the word TRAINING. ADMINISTRATIVE RE .. 'under suspension' on the postal covers FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCBS thereby burting the feelings of the indivi AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART dual besides spoiling his imag amongst tbe MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINGH local people; and DEO) : (a) A statement is attached. (C) so, steps proposed to taken to if be (b) Yes. Sir. By streamlining the various ensure non-recurrence of such events in administrative, operational and fUDctional future? aspects of the Society from 1980 oDwards THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to achieve improved services to tbe MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND consumers and also the over all economic . TRAINING. AD.MINISTRATIVE RE· v,iability of 'the Society . FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART (c) While &triviDI to improve ad- MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. SINOH m,io,istrative, efficiency the Society eDvi..... DEO) : (a) to (C). Governmont have QQt .9 expan4' its bQsiDOlS bf OpeDUta IlIOn' Deb. , iDOI,udiD8 Iclf·""ico bra~hes the coutitutioaality 01 'tilt, tlTerr•• e I. and witb ~odern facilities wbere pouiblc. 'fbe Affected Areas (Special Courts) Act" question of providinl accommodatjon ,(or ,tbc PreiidcntiaJ Doti8cadoD of sew. opening more branches is enS81iD, the ~nsortbjp in the Supreme Court; attention hr the Government. (d) whetber Government impouodod tho (d) Yes, Sir. The report is awaited. correspondent's passport a.Dd refused to (e) No, Sir. reDew his press accreditioD card fur 198$; and (f) Does Dot arise. Statemeat Ce) if so, the reasons thereof? FinofJclal StatuI 0/ thl! CenJral Goyernmenl THE MINISTER OF HOME APFAIRS EmplDyees Consume, Cooperative Society (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN) : (a) No. Sir. (Rupees in lakhs) (b) A case FIR No. 267 dated the 30th July 1984 u/s 153-A IPC, 29S-A IPC and Year Sale Profit/Loss Reserves Accu lhe Punjab Special Powers (Press) Act, turn- (+> (-) mulated 1956 was registered at P. S. Civil Lines. over loss Amritsar in connection with the filing of despatch from Amritsar on the 13th June 30-6-80 140.46 9.10 ~.51 48.53 1984 by Shri Brahma ChelJaney, corres.. pondent of the Associated Press. Shri 30-6-84 946.54 31.53 25.40 22.42 Chellaney filed a petition in tbe Delhi High Court OD tbe 18th· October 1984 that iD *The fi gures ha ve been given for period the event of the petitioner's arrest he be ending June, 1980 and June, 1984 as rele~sed on bail. Delhi High Court in its tbe Cooperative Year of tbe Society is interim order OD October 19, 1984 directed from July to June. that the petitioner was not to be arrested; in its tina I order passed on 7th November ••The figures as on 30-6-1980 are as per 1984 they dismissed bis application and the audi ted accounts of the Society stated that the news-item was prlmafac/~ approved by its General Body. graveJy tendentious. Shri Chellaney aJso Fiaures for 30- 6-1984 are yet to be moved the Supreme CC"turt on the 29tb approved by the Genera I Body. October 1984 for anticipatory bail. WhiJe the Supreme Court in its orders dated tbe eal. ••• IMt Corre.poDdent of Associated 30th October, 6th November, 20th Press November and 20th December 1984 ordered that he sball Dot be arrested, they allo 5731. PROF. MADHUDANDAVATB : observed in their last order that tbis facilil, Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be was granted on the specific condition that pleased 'to sta te : he shall oWer fuJI co-operation to the investigatiog officers and that if he fails to (a) wbetber a corresppndent of Associated offer such co-operation, the interim order Prcla wal barassed by Government after is Hable to be revoked. tbe military action at the Golden Templ~ iD Amritaar for his .frank and objective (c) Yes Sir. DOWS :l'eporta sent to the international journals; (d) and (e). Tbe Relio"aJ P_port Ofticer Delhi bis dated tbe 27th (b) if. .~, w~ether as, a result of the fo order harassmcn't the correspondent secured on December 1984 impounded wi pal'J)Q(t ",,¥pipatory ,ban from the Supreme Court UDder section 10 (3) (c) of the '.'''POrta Aet, 1961. The quest.iOD of renewal of tho ~ ~,ev~(his arrest,; . aocreditatioD 'card for J98$ ia . "odor (of whether the cortesfond~Qt QOosidcratioai oIlalleDI" , '", 'Sale of Teralara Palate of BuGdJ, RAJa.tbaa (0) the forest produets thai Me procured from AdivAli areas and seDt to '5732. SHRI BRAIAMOHAN MOHANTY : urban areas; Will the Minister of CULTURE be pleased to state: (d) whether forest produce is also exported; and (8) whether Bundi's 600 year old (Ilajasthan) Taragara Palace is being sold (e) if so, year-wise details of the income to a Hotel Magnate for hotel purposes earned from the export of forest produc~ igooring the archaeological and cultural durina the last three years? significance of the Palace, if so, details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (b) whether a number of Forts and FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : (a) to (c). The Palaces of Rajasthan with their historical data on forest wealth, products and commer and archaeological significance are changing cial production is available on total forest bands and are transferred to private people, area basis. Areas predominatly inhabited by if so, details thereof; and Advasis are neither demarcated nor data on forest wealth and production speCifically (c) whether Government have formuJated recorded therefor. a Policy directing not to transfer th~ sites, places and forts of historical and archaeo (d) Yes, Sir. logical importBnce to private hands for commercial or other purpose s, if so, details (e) The information is being colJected tbereof'1 and will be placed on the Table of tbe House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND TRAINING, ADMINISTRATIVE RE- Rationalisation of the services of three FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES Air Lines AND PENSION AND IN THE D~PART 5734. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K.P. WjJl the Minister of TOURISM AND SINGH DEO) = (a) Yes, Sir. The reported CIVIL AVlATION be pleased to state: sale of the Taragarh Fort and Palace, which has not yet been declared as a (a) whether the three Airlines have protected monument has been stayed by a been urged upon to rationalise their services court order. so as to have maximum turnover from each aircraft; (b) No, Sir. (b) if ae, the reaction of tbe three aJr (c) No, Sir. However. forts and palaces, Jines thereto; and which are not statutorily protected, are beiDa inspected by the Archaeological (c) how far it will heJp in increasing Survey of India. Their protection will be their turn,over ? considered as per archaeoJogica J Dorms. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB State-wile Details or Forest Wealth MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : (a) 5733. SHRI PIYUS TIRAK Y : Will to Ccl. A Committee bas been appointed to the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to study and recommend route rationalisation state : of tbe services of tbe three Airlines viz. Air India, IrJdin AirJines and Vayudoot. The, (a) the state-wise details relard~n8 the report of tbe Committee is awaited. fotest wealth in the areas predominantly inhabited by·Adivasis; Develop.eat or Gfr FOI'eIt (b) the year-wise details of production S135. SHitl R.P GABKWAD: Wilt or the forest wealth and forest pr:,oduce of the PRIME MINISTER. be pltaHd'\ 'C,o b_o .real for the last three )'oars; ref~r to tbe repJy liveD to Starred Que,doD , ( .,.. r ~ .. of' " j" VdAIdIa ",;)1. (SdK.4) No. 201 OD 27 Marcb. 1985 rtlardia, six crores, Dinety six latbs and CJOYOD development of Gir forest and state : thousand were allocated for the develop ment of Scheduled Castes and Soheduled· (a) out or Rs. 12.52 laths provided for Tribes in Gujarat for tbe year 1984.. 85. tbe purpose of developing a Safari Park at Gir during 1984 .. 85 by the Gujarat State (b) to (d). The information about the Government. bow much amount has been actual expenditure incutred during the year spen,t durin8 tbe year; on various schemes formulated for tbe development of ScheduleCi Castes/Scheduled (b) the details of works on which the Tribes and the detuils of the work done il amount was spent; Dot yet available. (C) .whether the State Government pro (e) The arnount to be allocated for the posses to make a further provision for tbe development of ScbeduJed Castes and purpose during 1985·86; and Schedu1ed Tribes in Oujarat during the year 1985-86 has not yet been decided by (d) if so, the amount proposed to be the Planning Commission. provided by the Centre? Refusal of Passports to Indians in Kuwait THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 5737. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: FORSSTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) and Will the Minister of EXTERNAL (b). Information is being collected from AFFAIRS be pleased to state: the State Government of Gujarat and will be laid on tbe Table of the House. (a) whether the Indian Embassy at Kuwait is not issuing passports the Indian (C) The State Government has pro .. citizens at Kuwait who have lost their posed an outlay of Rs. 5.60 lakhs for the original passports; Oir Lion Safari Park in 1985·86. (b) whether it is a fact tha t these (d) It is not proposed to provide peopole are detained by the Kuwait police; Central financial assistance for the scheme durin8 1985·86. (c) if so, the number of persons and·, the place of detention by the Kuwait police; Development of SCslSTs la GuJarat aDd S736. SHRI AMARSINH RA THA W A :' (d) tbe steps proposed to be takeD by Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Government of India to redress the pJeased to state : suffering of the Indian citizens at Kuwait ? (a) the amount alJocated for the deve THE MINISTRY OF STATE IN THB· lopment of Scheduled Castes/Scheduled MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Tribes in Gujarat for tbe year 1984·85; (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): (8) The Embassy of India Kuwait issues (b) whether the amount was fully duplicate passports or emergeney certift utilised by the State Government; cates, where necessary, in cases of loss ot passports. The documents are issued in (c) if 10, the details of work done; accordance with prescribed procedure. (d) If not. the, reasons thertfor; and (b) No Sir. Only persons who enter Kuwait iJlcaalJy either on false passport or. (e) tbe amount allocated (or de~elop· withoUf a travel document, arc detained· meot of SCa/STs for the year 1985·86 '1 by the Kuwait police at the deportation centre. THE MINISTER OF STATB, IN THB MINIST.RY OP HOMB AFFAIR~ (c) As on 28·4-1985 only f:\1VO, IH'rsons ('SHkIMATI 'RAM' DULARI SINHA): wbose ~ases were brought to tbe Qotice or" "0' ~ lwa o,{ R.~ One h~ll~rcd aDd·, fifty tbe Em~ssy. wer~ awahiDI dcpor,.t'i'on.· ", . '" I, ",' (d) Immediately OD receipt of jQlor (c) A CommiUee 01 technical and ·fioa~ matioD from the Kuwait police. a repseaea cia) export. constituted ia 1984 hav. taU'Vo. of the Bmbassy viairl deportation estimated tbat for units to' be commissioned cell to enquire about tbe walfare of tbe around .1992, nuclear power would cost detainee (8) and to check tbe particulars of about 8S paise per Kwh. thermal powot tbeir passports. etc. Where a detainee is would cost about 91 paise per Kwh for uaabJe to produce any dotails of bis trave I pithead units and 109 paise per Kwh for document, a reference is made 10 tbo units located at 800 km (rom he pitbead•. authorities concerned in India immediately by telex to verify tbe national statu8 of (d) The taritf is. worked out leparately the individual. An emergency certificate for each station in consultatioo witb tbe is issued to him immeditately on receipt Central Electricity Authority and tbe of tbe confirmation. respective State Electricity Boards. FuaetloalDg of Tar.par Atomic Power Life of Tarapur Atomic Power Stati_ Station 5739. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM : 5738. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM Will the PRIME MINISTER be plcased to Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: state: (a) whether the life of Tara pur A 'ornie Power Station wjJJ end in 1994; (b) taking ioto account the overall (c) whether a Jterna tive source wi JJ be functioning of the Tarapur Atomic Power ready before the Tarapur Atomic Power Station since its inception what is the Station is closed down in 1994 '1 profit made as on 31·10 .. 1984; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether Atomic Power Stations are MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH· more commercial than Thermal or Hydro NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS power statiOlls; and OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND ELECTRONICS (d) whether the power c~angts . a~e (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) The based on the type of power station or It IS Tarapur Atomic Power Station is expected cltarled uniformly irrespective of the mode to be decommissioned after 1994. of production? (b) and (c). The fifteen year aueleat THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB power profile approved by the Government in MINiSTR.Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH principle takes ;nto account the decommis NOLOGY AND IN THB DEPARTMENTS sioning of Tarapur Atomic Power Station. OF' OCEAN DBVELOPMBNT, ATOMIC A final decision on sites for future nucltar BNER.GY, SPACE AND BLECTRONICS power stations in the Western Electricity (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Tarapur Region including expansion at existiol sitea .Atomic Power Station has completed 15 is yet to be taken. yeafl of successful commercial operation OD 1st November. 1984 and is continuio8 p"eDger Traffic Potentialities bet"ee. to operate satisfactorily. The Station bas supplied about 13000 milion units each to G.1f alld Trl,audrum Mebaralbtt. and Gujarat sad is tbe cheapest Don-hydro source of electricity in 5140. SHR1 T. BASHEER. : the rJlioll. SHRI K. MOHA~ DAS : (b) The oet profit earned by tbe station . wilt: .tbe 14i11ister of TOURISM AND .. on· 31 .. 3..,5 .fter meeting Operation apd cfvii: A VIATIt>N be pleased to· stat~ :,. '. t.U.ifttenatlde "pendfture. dtr"-ccl"U9D and lotore't OD 'Capital is abour Ri~ S4 "Crorti. bad beon conducted OD passenger traffic at 606 one-way passengers per week between pOto.Dtialitiel between Gulf and Trivaodrum Gulf and Trivandrum. by Air Ind ia,; The survey team had r~commeDded to (b) the findings/recommendations increase t~e twice .. weekly B .. 707 services thereof; between Dubai and Trjvandrum to five 8-707 services weekly inch.::ding services (c) the action since then taken on these between Trivandrum on one hand and Abu recommenda tion/find i ngs; Dbabj/Bahrain/Kuwati/Muscat on the (d) whel.her there is a oy proposal to other. increase the number of flights between Gulf and Trivandrum; if "'bot, ,the reasons (c) Air India increased its services Gulf and tbereror; between selected points in Trivandrum progressively since 1979 as per (e) whether any memorandum has been statement attached. Air India·s seat received by Government in this regard; capaci.ty increase between 1978 and April and 1985 has been of the order of 630%. (f) if so, the action taken thereon? (d) No, Sir. There is no specific proposal to increase the number of fljghts between THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Trivandrum and Gulf at present. Air India MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL has, however recently d"ployed an additional AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): B-707 flight between Tf~vatldrum aDd Dubai (8) Y:s, Sir. A market survey was conducted effective April, 1985, The capacity presently by Air India in 1978 with a view to assessing provided by Air India bel ween Gult and tbe passcnl"r traffic potential between Gulr Trivandrum is considered to be adequate and Trivandrum. to' cater to 'he needs of this market. (b) The Survey revealed that KeraJite (e) No, Sir. population in the Oulf ~ountrjes was over 1,12,000. Traffic potential was estimated (f) Does not arise. Statement Air Indla'3 capacity on Gulf-Trlvandf'um route Date Ce.pacity Route 3 1 2 Duba j/Triva ndrum/Duba i. April, 1978 2 B-707 Dubai/Trivandrum/Dubai. April, 1979 2 B .. 701. I B-707 Abu Dhabi/Trivandrum/Abu Dhabi. 1 B-707 Kuwait/Abu Dba bi/Trivandrum! Abu Dhabi/Kuwait/Dabaran. Dubai/TrivandrumjDubai. April, 1980 2 B-707 1 B·707 Abu Dhabi/Ttivandrum/Abu Dhabi/ Kuwa ti/Babra in. 1 8-707 Kuwait/Abu Dhabi/Trivandrum/Abu Dhabi. 1 B .. 707 Dubai/Tlivandrum/Duba i/Kuwa til Bahrain. 2 B-707 Abu Dhabi/Trivandrum/Abu Dhabi. 1 B-707 Sha,dab/Trivandrum/Sbar~ah. 1 2 1 B .. 707 K uwa t i /Dubai /Trivandrum/Du ba i. 1 B·707 Abu Dhabi/Ras.al-Khayamab/Trivadrum/ Ras-al .. Khaym'ah/Abu Dhabi. 1 B-707 DubaijTrivandrum/Dubai. April, 1982 3 B .. 707 Abu Dhabi/Trivandruml Abu Dhabi. 1 B-707 Dubai/Trivandrum/Dubai. 1 B-707 Ras-al-Khayma h ISharjab/Trivandrum/ Sha rjah/Ras-al·Khaymah. 1 B.. 707 Kuwait/Dubai/Trivandrum/Dubai. 1 B-707 Dubai/Trivandrum/Dubai/Kuwait/ Bahrain. April, 1983 4 Airb::s Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Trivnadrum/Dubai/ Abu Dhabi. 1 Airbus Ras... al-Khaymah/Sharjah/Trivandrum/ Sharjah/Ras-a I-Kbaymah. 1 Arbus Abu Dbabj/Sbarjah/Trivandrum/Sharjab/ Abu Dhabi. 1 Airbus Kuwati/Dubai/TrivandrumjDubai/Abu Dhabi. April, 1984 3 Airbus Abu Dhabj/Dubai/Tr:vandrum/Abu Dhabi/Dubai. J AirblJs Da hran/Trivandrum/Dahran. 1 Airbus Ras .. al-KhaymahjSharjah/Trivandrum! Sharjah/Abu Dhabi. 1 Airbus Abu Dhabi/Sharjah/Trivandrum/Abu Dha bi / Ras-al-Khaymah. 1 Airbus Kuwait/Dubai/Triv8ndrum/Abu Dhabj/ DubaL April, 198$ 2 Airbus Abu Dhabi jDubai /Triv8ndrum/Dubai! Abu Dhabi. 1 Airbus Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Triv8ndrum/Dubai/ Kuwait/Abu Dhabi. 1 Airbus Dahran/Trivandrum/Dahran. 1 Airbus Ras-al.Kbaymab/Sbarjah/Trivandrum/ Sharjah/Abu Dhabi. 1 Airbus Abu Dbabi/Sharjah/Trivandrum/Abu D ha hi jRas-al.Khaymah. 1 Airbus Kuwait/Dubai/Trivandrum/Abu Dbabll DubaL 1 B·707 Dubai/Trivandrum/Dubai. VA1SAIOM 18, ·1"" (SAKA) PropoIaI to I... Tr".Ddru.. aud Promotion or Alia. Tear..... Lakt"'.".ep by Air S743. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 5141. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will tbe PARASHAR : Will the Minister of Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be AVIATION be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) whether there is any propo9al to (a) whether Government /ITDC have link Trivandrum with Laksbadweep by air; drawn up any plan for the promotion of and Asian Tourism so as to attract tourist. from various countries of Asia ioterolted (b) it not the reasons therefor '1 in visiting the places of Scenic beauty and of historcial and religious importance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sacred to Bhudhists, Hindus, Muslims and MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL Christians in India during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLO'l'): (a) and (b). Subject to development of an air field. provision of infrastructural faci" (b) if so, a brief outline of the plan? Ilties and generation of adequate traffic, THE M[NISTER OF STATB IN THB Vayudoot will consider providing an air· MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL Unk to tbe Union Territory of Lakshadweep AVrATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): during the current plan period. (a) Yes, Sjr. Restoration or Air Services between Bodb (b) The development and promotion of tourism is a continous process. During Gay. and Patoa/CalcuUa the Seventh Five Year Plan the Department of Tourism is taking up the development of 5742. PROF. NARAIN CHAND infrastructural facili ties at places of PARASHAR: Will the Minister of cuhura ljarchaeologicaJ/historical and reli. TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATfON be gious interest including Buddhist sites for pleased to state : attracting tourists from all countries including the countries in Asian and Soutb (a) whether Government have received Asian region. In order to promote tourist any demand for tbe restoraHon of the Air traffic from Asian countrieos in genera} the Services between Bodh Gaya and Patna/ Government has taken the foUowin, Calcutta; steps: (b) ir so, the decision taken by Govern (l) Stepping up of promotional efforts ment in this regard; and bv our Offices at Kuwait, Dubai, Tokyo, Osaka, Bangkok, Sio,apore and Kuala Lumpur. (C) if not, the likely date by which the decision would be taken and the reasons (2) Preparation and distribution of (or dolay 'l additional tourist publicity material in the languages such as Arabic, THB MINISTER. OF STATE IN THB Japanese, That, Sinhalese, Koreaa to suit the local requirements. MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SURt ASHOK OEHLOT): (3) Participation in promotional fairs, (8) Y-os. Sir. food festivals and exbibjtjol18. (b) and (c). Subject to availablity or (4) Organisation of cultural trorpet u.'rutructuraJ racil i ties and economic from India. ~bilj,l' of ope.rations, Vayudoot has plans .~o .irlink .Bodb Gaya with Patna and (5) Increased adVertising tbrouab TV • C.lcutta durlo. 1986-81, Radio and Prtn. (6) loint ,promotioDs with Airlines/ South Asia bal produc.... d a brocburf,.1td a Travel Trade. p oster towards wbjch tbe -Dopartment of Tourism basmado a tiDaDcja" ICODtributioo. (7) Visit of bi8h-lev~1 promotioDa'1 tourism delegation from India in Fre.... ' Equalisation Poliey December 1984 to We,st Asia. 5744. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (8) Efforts to promote India ethnic MUNSI : Will the Minister of PLANN.(NO traffic. be pleased to state : (9) Organisation of workshops for (a) whether cotton, textile industries foreign travel trade and press in 'tbe and other allied industries are (acins crisis important generating markets in in Eastarn India for the iast two de~ades Asia. for not baving freigtJt eQualisaion; (10) Important journals, travel agents/ (b) wh~ther this is increasiog discrimina tour operators, TV teams and tion and encouraging imbalances; and photographers are invited for famiJiarisa tion trips to give exposure to India's tourist a ttraction on their (c) if so, the steps to be taken by Oovernmen t ? return. Specific measures adopted for attacting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE traffic f om the Eastern Asia are promotion MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K. R. of Buddhist traffic, 'honeymoon couples, NARAYANAN): (8) and (b). It is difficult mounting of photographic exhibHions on the to attribute the development or declio'e of life of Buddha. The Hotel Corporation of an industry in any particula,r State to India in coUabora tion with the Hokke Club freight equalisation. of Japan are constructing Hotels at Rajgir. Kusbinagar for Buddhist .. pilgrims from The Freight Equalisation Policy was abroad. From West Asia the promotion of reviewed same time back ~y the National special "Family Holiday Concept" is being Transport Policy Commiuee (Pande CoAl," exploited. Moreover the tourist places mittee). The Commi ltee expressed associated with Islamic culture and tourist its views against extending tbe Freight resorts such as Kashmir7 Bombay. Luclcnow, Equalisation Scheme to other Commo~Jities Ajmer, Agra, etc. which are more popular and recommended tha t even the with the people of that region are given due existinJ schemes of freight equalis,ation publicity. on industrial commodities like steel and cement be phased out. The Government The Ashok Travds & Tours of the India have already accepted the recommendations Tourism Development Corporation has given made by this Committee, subject to subsj.· high priority to intra.reginal tourism by disation of transport to remote, inaccessible promoting several itineraries covering tbis and isolated areas. area. The Discovery of India tours which tries to encompass tbe entire country were \c) Does not arise. drawn up and sent to Mauritius, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia. Japan, Hong Kong and ViI't or Maurltle. Prlille M .....er .. India Thailand, etc. 5745. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHAR.I : Bilateral arrangements such as protocol ! I" " of group tourism signed between India DR. KRUPASINDHU BaOI :. , and Pakistan bas genera tcd group tours W,iU tbe Minister of EXTERNAL bandied by the India Tourism Development APPt\IRS be pleased to state tbe out· Corporation and Pakistan Tourism Develop come of discussion. beld ori tbe bnater8~t *iDd ment Corporation on rcciproca I basis. international issues with ,tbe Mauri'tJaa As a joint promotionol venture tbe Prime Minister durin,. bit recent vitit 'to Jodia? 'I " "j World Tourism OtsaoisatioD Commission for 'jl:.tt7," . "','1. • 1', ."., If'" ," , " THE MINISTER OF STATB IN TaB the period from July, J983 to 27.4:.85. MINISTRY OF EftERNAL AFFAIRS 81,772 refugees entered India from Sri (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): Lanka. The Prime Minister' of ;Maurfttus Hen. Anerood J IJgaatl·tb Accomp~:llied b¥ his wife (b) The Government o( India believes and .P,ermaDent' Secretary. paid an official tha t a political solution to the ethnic visit to India from 2nd to 5th April. 1985. problem in Sri Lanka has to be found and Durhig his visit he ca lied on our Pcesiden r they have been in touch with the Sri Laota and Vjce·Prcside-nt, and held discussions Government in this regard. The Government with the Prime Minister, as well as several hopes that conditions in Sri Lanlea wjfl other ~inisters of the Government of improve so tha t the refugees in India can India. International issues concerning return home in safety and dignity. 'he Indian O~ean', 'Disarmament, the M'iddle East and South Asia were touched upon (TranJlatlon] during the tarks. On bilateral matters discussions resulted in a ~ecision to give an Employment to employees working on daU" addi,tional Rs. 10 crores worth of nlixed wages ID Census Department, Sa8.r credits to Mauritius, and to give 10.000 lannes of whea t flour as well as some 5747. SHRI DALCHANDER JAIN: pulses. India would in future extend 100 WiJJJ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS schoJarships to Mauritius, and would al.lo be pleased to state: j ncrease its ass 'sf ance for certain projects, such as fhe Jawaharlal N~hru Hospital, (a) whether consequent on winding up cov (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Influx of Refugp.es (c) the steps taken by Government to 5746. SHR( CHITTA ~1AHATA : Wi]} provide them employment? the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to sta te : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (a) the' m:lin caH~es of the influx of (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): refugees into the country and the number (8) Yes, Sir. of ref4gees already entered into the couotry since J'983; and ' (b) These employees were recruited OD (b) the steps GDvernment have taken a purely casual basis for specific time to 'check them ? bound census work. (C) Does Dot arise. , THE MINIStER OF STATE IN THE MINTSTRY OF HOME APFAIRS The casual employees were recruited on (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA:r: the clear tinder standing that on completion (a) Since "1983 there has been inftux of of the work (or whicb they bad been refugees from Sri Lanka oply. The refugee recruited, they would Dot be reta,incd in influx st_arted as ~ . result of, feeHng of service However, on a purely humanitariall juse'curity I and feat among Sri Lankan consideration. tbe Madhya Pradesh Govern Tamils in tbe wake of ethnic violence or ment were requeste<' for special,coal.idera-; , Juty-AUjKls.,,1983. ,The security si.tuadon tion in (he mattC't of their absorptiod in . in Sri Lanka especially in North and tb~ alternative employment. The Madhya East continues to be tense. This has led Prade~b Government did not find it: fea.ib. to 'a·" rl)rther ,spur't in, the jpiux of refugees to meet tbe request because tbey had a very aiDee lPebruary fbis year. la rge number of daUy wage employee,. OD "Acc~rding' to' reports received' fr~ their tolls ,for whom no cODcession or tbe Slate Government of Tamil Nadu dUriq special consideration was availablo., ' 244 [&.rill"} Sikh aDd J ad K £Xtr...... Pia. Jot.t ActJoa ladlaa Porest ServIce Oll'lcen work... •• JOIDt Secretaries 5749. SHRI B.V. DSSAI : SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOHANTY : 5748. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: state : (a) whether Government's attention h",s (a) the Dumber of Indian Forest Service been drawn to the Dews item in Times of Officers workins as Joint Secretaries in India dated 6 February, 1985 in which ,it has been alleged tbat Sikh. Jammu a~ci Union Government; Kashmir extremists pJan joint action; (b) whether a regular panel of IPS (b) whether according to tbese reports Sikhs and some Kashmir extremists are Officers like otber All India Services is jOintly pJaoDing to step up acts of terrorism prepared for appointment as loint Secretary; against taraets in India and abroad; and "'(C) if so, whether tbe Indian intelli8cnce reports have also reveaJed tbis fact; (c) the reasons for not appointing an IPS Officer as Joint Secretary in the Cd) if so, the action Indian Government Department of Forest and Wildlife? had taken ta deal with tbe situation; and (e) if so, whether British Government THE MINISTER OF STATE, IN THE have been alerted about the increasing MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND activities or proposed activities by these TRAINING. ADMINISTRATIVE RE- extremists elements in London ? FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K. P. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS SINOH DEO) : (a) No Officer of the Indian (SHRt KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN): Porest Service is at present WOrk!DI al (a) Yes. Sir. Joint Secretary in the Union Government. However,' officers of the Service are at (b) to (e). Reports about the undesirable present holding posts at the Jeve) of Joint activities of extremists elements have come Secretary or above under the Central to the Dotice of Government. StricJ Government. vigilance is being maintained in tbis reaard by tbe authorities. Tbe matter has also (b) Yes. Sir. been taken up coodsisteotly with the Britbh Go~erDmcnt • (c) Posts of Joint Secretary under the :entral Government. including those in tbe Dealsi of V.... to CoaDtrles b, Inclla Department of Porests and Wildlife, are 5750. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY:' Will :teled under the Senior Staffing Scheme. the Minister of HOMB AFFAIRS be rhe question of cODsiderin, appointment pleased to, state : If an Officer of the Indian Forest Service is a Joint Secrc'tary in tbe Department of (a) tbe countries denied visas of any Florests and Wildlife. would be duly nature by India: :onsidered as and when an eJiaible officer ,f tbe Service having tbe requisi te experience (b) whether IDdia aSD the tourists to lnd quaJiflcations and fuUUline the job ~ maintain minimum de.:eDCY in their way of" 'equirements. of such post. becomo life aDd drOSt" wbile Ita),in, i~ OUf Lvail.bl~. countr)'i '(c) wbetber lome tourists vi,ido. our Tbe Table shows that tbe Dumber of beautiful sea beacbel do Dot care (or Indian persons below the poverty Ii ne bas declined. feelinp aod ,0, as they like; and The latest position in tbis reaard will be known when the reluJ t. of the survey 08 (d) if so, tbe steps Government propose housebold' consumption expelldHure coo· to take to avoid sucb indecency '1 ducted by National Sample Survey Orlani sation for 1983 are available. THB MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF HOMB AFFAIRS The number of large industrial hOUSel, (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (Le. tbose in whose cases tbe value of own (a> Applications for grant of visas from assets or the va lue of own assets tOlother foreisners are considered on the meri ts of with the assets of inter connected under eacb cale, having due regard to the purpose, takings) aheir assets during 1981, 1982 aDd irrea,pective of tbe couDtries to which tbey 1983 and tbe percentage increase in beIODI. 1983 over 1981 are given in the Table below. which shows that the number 0' (b) to (d). Foreign tourists are expected large industrial houses and their asset! bave to conduct themselves in a way which Aoes increased. Dot outrage tbe customs and traditions in India. The State authorities Iceep due vigilancc and take appropriate action where Year No. of large Assets of Jarsc industrial industrial housel necessary. Houses (Rs. in crores) PenoDi belo" Poverty LIDe 1981 145 17443.72 5751. SHR RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : 1982 168 21688.38 Will the Minister of PLANNING be pJeased to state : 1983 185 25962.50 whether number of persons below Percentage 27.6% 48.8% poverty line has increased and number of increase in larlc industrial houses have also increased; and 1983 over 1981. (b) if so, tbe details of percentage of increase in the assets of large industrial bouse. durin. tbe last tbree ycars and CeDtral Assistance to States tbe percentage of increase of individual poor people during the same period ? 5752. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will tbe THB MINISTER OF STATB IN THE Minister of PLANNING be pleased to MINISTR.Y OF PLANNING (SHRI K. R. state: NAR.AYANAN) : <8> and (b). The Dumber (a) whether Union' Government provide ot perSODS below tbe poverty line in the country and their percentale of the popula Centra] plan assistance to the State Gover tion in 1979·80 and in 1981·82 Year Number of persons Percentage (c) whether UnioD Go\'crnment have below tbe poverty or popula- received a sUllestion/request trom tbe tine lion below Rajasthan Government for providiD, finan, the poverty cial assistance to tbe State equal to tbat )ine of developiDI States; 1979-80 339.0 million '1.~1% (d) if 80, whether GoverntDeOt 'bav., 1'5,.1·82 28%.0 million 41.5% considered such sualeltioD; -&4 ,MA\i '_ ,,' " t.l'8$' . ,,~:, " W"'t~~" ~,1" 4,,";'~1\," , ' (e) if 10. the details tbereo~ and if Dot THE MINISTER OF STATE, IN THB tbe r,easons therefor? MINIstRY OP HOME, AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM rlULARI. SINiiA) ',: 'tHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) and (b). On 5-4-85, the TNV ambushed " MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K.R. a police pJrrol party consisting of CRP? , NARAYANAN) : (8) Yes, Sir. and civil 'poHce cn the Kamalpur-Kaila: shahar road near Sikarbari PS I(amalpu~, (b) The Central assistance for State North Tripura resuJ ting ,jn the kiUing of Plans is aJlocated on the basis of the seven persons (3 civil poHpe personnel and 'Modified Gad.il Formula', as al'proved by 4 CRPF personnel) on the spot and i,njurit'6 tbe National Development Council in to five others. Out of th~se five injur,ep,:, August, 1980. According to this formula, and Constable:: ef CRPF and one Home a Jumpsum a moun f is pre-empted to meet Quard succumbed to their injuries later the requirements of eights apecia J catagory bringing the total number of persons killed States and the balance amount is allocat~d in the incident to nines The police "Jorces amongst the Jlemaining fourteen non-special returned the fire with the result thar the cattgery !Jtates on the basis or the follow extremists could nol luot the weapons of idS cr j leria : tbe police personnel ki;Jed, Soniol' police officers visited the area 9f incident. Ex tcn 0) 600/0 on the basis of population; sive combing opera lions in th~ ar..:a hav.! (ii) 100/0 on the basis of per capita tax been conducted. Security measurl!'S have effort; been tightened and stt iet vigil is buing maintained. (iii) 20o/() to. the States having per capita income below the national average; and Increase In Passenger Fare by Indian Airlines (iv) lOtyo for special problems. (c) to (e). The Government of Rajasthan 57.54. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will has s.usgested certain changes in the the Minisrer of TOURISM AND ClVIL 'Modified Gadgil Formula'. Changes in A VJATION be pJeased to state: ,the formula ca n be decided only by the ~ National Development Council. (a) whether keepiug in view the increase in th~ prices of petroleum products, Indian Airl· nes bas sent a proposaJ to increase the EIIUul of Security Personnel by TNV in exisling passeng~r fare and freight charaett Trijtura .,for tbe 'approval of his Ministry; and 5753. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (b) if so, the reaction of his Ministry SHRI C. MADHAV RBDDI: thereto and tbe percentage by,which the Indian Airlines propose to increase' tbe SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI passenger fare and fare freight cha'rges' ' KHAN: THE MINISTER: OF STATE IN 'THE Wi}) the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS MINtSTaY· OF tOUR.JSM AND 'CIVIL be pleased to states: AVIATION (SHRI AS'HOK GEH'LOT): (a)' and (b). Indian Airlirles bad propos'ed (a) wbeth~r seven security forces men aD ~ wer.e killed aod as many, injur,ed when increase of 11.50/0 of tbe existing bS'sic I Tripura ~ National Volunteers guerillas far~s as fuel, surcharge to offset the.increase t ambushed a patrol of the State Police and in tbe ,rices of petroleum iproduct. ',,,jth I eRP Force nca'r Setroicherra under effect (fom March 17, 1985 and an increase basic fares on the domestic : MamaJpur s~b.. divjsjOll in t~he North in :,bc ~isting sec to.r s of 7 to 12 percent against an t Tripura on tbe 5th April, 1985; and increase of 22.7% in the operating costs t ,. (b) if so, the details of the incidents (excluding fue't) since the basic fares were : aad ,bo actio,D take.o by Government in last revised in t~8J. '., These proPQsar'~ ~.'ve 1 in relard tboreto ,1 . been a'pproved by'Govetnment. ." ,., ' the aegis of the so .. caJJed .':'RepUbJJc of Khalist~o" led by Dr. Jagjit Singh Chau·ba:n. Folk Culture of Nortb Beugal It is understond tbat a total of 150 delegates, inciudjng 35 frClm oUfsidt" V 1( .• participa.ed 57'S. SHRI PRIYA .RAJAN DAS in tbe Convenrion. J.t WciS addre-ssed by Dr. MUNSl: W',l1 .he Minister of CULTURE Jagjit Singh Chauhan, Shrj A H. Phizo, De pleased t~ 's tate : self-styled "President of the Republic of NagaJand", Dr. Amanyar of the Afghan (a) whether Government provide a"'"ds Mujahidin. Mr Gilani of Jamm.u aDd tance Government of West Bengal to to Kashmir Liberation Fronf and Mr. Sayeed of promote, 'preserve the cultural heritage the Indan Muslim F\?deration. and rork culture of North B~ngal for "Garribhira" Ga n, "Chhau" of Purulia The Convenlion was fO conclude with and "Baul" songs of Birbhum; a Ra Ily j n l.ondon. but per mission Was d (' n j ( d by 11, e B J iii ~ t C i H 1 t n {f t. ~")'if'so, the details thereof; aod . (C) if not, whether Government propose Murder of Foreign Di,.. lomats 10 consider a proposal for exten'dve re~ear~b, work on those lich tradilion. of 5757. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI cu.lture thrf.)ugh awards of scholarships? KHAN: Will the Minister of HOME AF~AIRS be pleased to state: THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL AND (a) the number of cases of rpurdersf TRAINING. ADMINISTRATIVE RE a ttempted murders of foreign diploma ts in FORMS AND PUBLIC GRIEVANCES the country during the Jast three years aDd AND PENSION AND IN THE DEPART the countries which they represented; MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI K P. SINGH (b) In how many cases to assaila lsf nEO) : (a) No, Sir. attackers were idenfified and arrested Cb) Does not ari~e. stating. their nationa(jty; (c) whether in view of these incidents (c) The Department of Culture oprafes and the r~cent assassination of Soviet some schemes for giving scholarsh.ip for diplomat, Govern.nent have made any train,ing and re$ear~h in various art forms. efforts to know the aClivi ties of the foreign national fleeing fr(1m conflicts in Afghanistan AntJ..;lndtau Groups in U.K. and other Midd'e East countries taking refuse in the country; • 5756, SHRIMATI OEETA MUKHERJEE: SHRt SHANTARAM POTDUKHE : (d) if so, the details th·ereof and the steps taken by Government in th~ matter; Win the M.nister of EXTERNAL and AFFAIRS be plf-ased to state: (c) If answer be in the negative, whether (a) wbe.tller Go,verament ~$ a ttegtion has Government propose t,o, make such an been drawn' to the newsresorts tha t various a8ses~ment ? anti-India groups U.k: held a convention in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB in Lon~on in April. 1985; and ~ MINISTRY OF., HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULAI SINHA): (a) (b) if 80, tbt detei'ls thete,,'\( and Govern During the pcrilld January J 982 to March ment's reaction thereto? 19 '5t 3 cases of murder and 2 cases of -tHE MINrSTER' OF STATB IN THE attempred murder of foreiln diplomats MIN'STRY' OP EXTERNAL AP'PAIRS have come to the notice of the Gave'rnment. (SHit!' KHURSHEED' ALAM KHAN) : These diplomats hdotlged to Kuwait, (a) Yes, Sir . U.A E. Jordan, U.K,& U.S.S.R. . '(b,: An' 'International' 'Sikh Convention (a) The a's~ai'ants 'have ;'''4' :b~ld in London on 6 ~7 April 1985 uoder identified and arrested. , .1, (c) to (e). The State authorities and tbe in the hills due to air-pollution hAl been Intelligence Agencies keep due viailancc undertaken so (ar. a,ainst the activities of foreigners in tbe country. The stay and conduct of the (c) and Cd). The data latbered by tbe (oreisners in ~be country is also regulated National Remote S~osjnl Agency indicate by the Foreigners Act, 1946, Registration of a reductJon in the forest area from 55.1109 Forejgners Act, 1939 ana cO.nnected Rules. million bectares in 1972/75 to 46.2873 million hectares in 1980/82. This asseasmcDt Airbus Bale and Technical Opera tloo Gent re is being verified with refercnce to around truth. Various steps are beinl taken ror at Calcutta tbe conserva tion or existing forests and tbo 5758. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS afforestation of degraded forests aDd wa.te MUNSI : Will the Minister of TOURISM lands. ,.. AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to loCrastructural FaelJUes for Pro,..bal atate : A Intrlp at Hobll (8) the reasons for not having the 757 newly purchased Air Bus Base and technical 5760. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: operation Centre at Calcutta; and Will tbe Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: (b) whether it is proposed to be reviewed? (a) whether the Government of ICarnataka have agreed to provide al1 iofr.struc THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tural facilities for providiDI airstrip at MINTSTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL HubH; and AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) and (b). On technical and operational (b) since HubJi is very far from BaDia considerations Delhi is considered the best lore and js a Central pJace for Northern Jocation for the Boeing 757 aircraft base. Karnataka, whether Government will There is no proposal to review this sanction airstrip to Hubli and put Hubli decision. in the airmap of India? Damale to Forest Trees I n the Hills THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL S7~9. SHRJ B.B. RAMAIAH: WilJ AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): the PRIME MIN ISTER be pleased to (a) Yes, Sir. state : (a) wbether there is widespread damage (b) Vayudoot plan to operate to Hubli to forest trees sucb as pines in the biJis after the airport has been constructed and through excessive pine need Ie Joss due to the requisite infrastructural facilities have air pollution; been developed. (b) if so, the details of any studies "Water Pollatlo. Cauled bJ Gw .... cO'Dducted so far and corrective steps taten/ Ra),ODI, Ma,oor Ia Kenla" proposed to be taken; (c) whether there bas been unprcedented 5761. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: and daolcrous falls in p~rcentage of forest Will the PRIME MINISTBR be pleased to cover from 30% to 100/0 as per satellite state: atudics; and (8) whether tbe Owalior Rayoftl. (d) if so, details tbereof and remedial Mavoor in ICerala is eaushl, wlter pollu ,teps taken/proposed to be taken? tion resultioa in serious bealtb hazard to people in tbat area; and THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN 'THE MINISTRY, OF ENVIRONMENT AND (b) if so. tbe steps beinl takeD to FOR,BSTS (SHR.I VIR SEN) : (8) and (b). strictly enforce tbe alUi-pollution No study about the -damale to forest treea measures '1 253 VAlSAIC.BA 18, 1907 (S..4KA) 2~ } (b) to (I). Do Dot arisc. (b) The Asian and Pacific Alfairs Sub Committee of tbe House PoreigD A1fairs Iado-Pak Joint Ministerial COlDml.slon Commi ttee has recommended the suspen sion of assistance to countries vioJatiol US 5763. SMR'I HARISH RAWAT: Will export laws in order to manufacture a tbo Miaiater of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be ouclear explosive device. This re'commOD plea... 'to ata te : datjon has tu be processed further by lbe U.s. Consress. before it can be submittecl (a) whOlber Ooverl1Q)CQt b~ve proposed to tbe Presideqt. Air to Air MissIles to Pakistan :u.s. to moni tJr with otmost viSil all, de.~tep. men'ts having a 'be'aring on ,tbe tOOrM~~9~;, 5765. SHRI B.V. DESAI: security. .' ' SHRI BRAJ MOHAN .l\10HANTY 4CFo()d fur \Vork" ~uJ "Autyodaya" ' Schemel SHRI K. RAMAMURTY : '" " SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : 5766. PROF. MA,DHU DANOAVA.rE; Will th~ Minister of PLANNING ..be SHRI RAM SA:YiUJHAWAN pleased to state: SHRI MOHAMMAD (a) whether an evaluation 'comwdttee 1'v1AHFOQZ ALI KHAN: of the Planning Co{nmission had in its evaluf.ttioo observed that the !lchemes like Will b: l\1inister of EXTERNAL t "Pood for Work" nnd "AntyodaYd " had' AFFAIRS be pleased to state: helped 'the poorest among the poor',; (a) wh:.!lher on 20 March. 1985 the U.S. Defcllce D'!;::"artmcnt has agrct'd to (b) jf SO, \\ bether Government pro:pose sell Pdkbtan 500 Air to Air fighter b(~rne to revive and strengthen these scllemes; aod mlstiles; (c) if so, what quantity of foodgrains (b) if so, wh~ther J5 Radar System to will be made available for "Food for WortH Pakistan has also been supplied; programme? (C) whether the reasons for supply of THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE arms to Pakistan given by the United State MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K.R. Government there is increased threat from NARAYANAN) : (a) and (b). The Pro the Soviet presence in Afghanistan; grammes Evaluation Organisation of the' Planning Commission evaluated the Food (d) if whether India has strongly so, for Work Programme in 1979. According protested over this huge arms suppJy to to its report. the Programme did have a Pakis tan; a cd favourable impact on the life of the viJlage (e) if'io, the reaction of lhe United of coummunity in terms of employment State Government; and and income. The report also brough out SOOle major w~aknesses and short. (f) the steps being taken by India in coming!;. Keeping these in view. a new this rega rd ? Programme, the National Rural Employment Programme (NREP) was launched in the Sixth Plan on a much larger scale. There THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE is provision under tbis programme &0 distr.,;· MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS bute a part of the wages as food grain. (SHRI KHURSHEBD ALAM KHAN) : The Antyodaya programme was Dot a (a) On March 28, 1985, the US Admi,nis central programme and, was implemented tration formally notified the US COll¥ress as a State scheme only ;0 theSta,tes.of or its intention to sell 500 Air to Air Bihar, Himachal Pradesb~ Ma'oi:pUf •. Mi~siJes to Pakistan. Rajasthan, Orissa, and Uttar Pradesh. An evaluation of this programme was carried (~) and (c). Oovc!fnnlent has seen out in 1979-81. The find,inls varied ffGm reports to this effect. State to State. Meanwhile, the Integrated Rural O.:velQPment P.rolramm" (~I;>~J (d) to (f). Oo\'ernment is c()ncerned 1 t with the aim of providing productive asse't'. the large-scale acquisition of sophisticated in the Sixth Plan to· "1,5 miUioD bousob.lds arms by Pakistan fromt he United States. fro·m among' the p 1.)0 rest of. t,~ ~oor tp' ~~Ip i ' The matter has bee,.Q taken up at di,ffer~nt them cross the poverty line, ~as lau~,~, ·Ievels and on several occasion, wilh the throughout the Country in 1980-81. Governments of both Pakistan aod the United States. Government is continuins . (C) Does a'ot ariae~ VAISAICRA 'II, 1t(,7 (SAKA) 'Propoaal to eoDDeet Rajkot with 'De'" AIfONltatloD clarlD. Sixth • .-d Sneath Ph•. brAlr y .... PI... 5769. SRRI KAMLA PRASAD 5767. SHRt DIOVIIAY SINH: Will SINGH: Wi)) the PRIME MINISTER be tIM Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL pJeased to state : A VIATJON be pleased to state : (c) if so. the progress tbereof '1 (d) whether the aim bas been reviewed and a higher aim recommended in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Seventh Plan and if so, the details thereof '7 MINI STRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Yes. Sir. MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) Yes. Sir. (b) Yes, Sir. (b) to (d). Efforts continue to brins 10 (c) The survey is in progress. more area under forests by plantiol treea both inside and outside notified forell areas. While between 1982 and 1980 a Special Cbarter and Return Fare FaelHt, to total erea of 3.56 miJJioD hectare wu tbe Cities O_lde India afforested, during the Sixth Five Year PJaa period and, an area of 2.27 milJion hectare 5768. SHRI DIGVIJA Y SINH: Will was covered through block planta tionl. In addition about 377 crore seedlings were tbe Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL distributed during tbe Sixth Five Year AVIATION be pleased to state : Plan period amona people for planting 00 farmlands. private holdings and home (a) the cities outside India bavin. Iteads. Government propose to increase facilities for special charter and return fare the afforestation effort dudD8 the Seventh rates for air travel to destinations in India; Five Year Plan period and later. National and Wastelands Development Board has been set up with the object of bringing five Jand year under (b) the reasons why such facilities have million hectares of every fueJwood and fodder plantations aDd to not been extended to cities in the far East, develop a people's movement therefor. Middle East and Africa? MIlitary Aid to Pakistan bl U.S.A. THE MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE MINISTR.Y OF TOURISM AND CIVIL 5770. DR. KRUPASINDHU BROI : AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GBHLOT): SHRI MOHAMMAD MAHPOOZ (8) and (b). Tourist Charters can be ALI KHAN: operated with requisite permission on poiDt Will the Minister of EXTBRNAL to point basis from any point in the world AFFAIRS be pleased to atate : includinl points in par Bast. Middle East aad Africa. <8> wbothet Government .ro awaro that a ':u~tanti,"1 part of ~be military aid Promised 'to PakistaD by ttie l' USA in addition to tbe previous loans of • 3.2 5771. S.HRI T. BASHESR : WUI tho bjlUop i. to be used for buUdin, 23 airfields Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL r~r ib, U.S. Air I'orce in Pakistan; . A VIATJON be pJeased to Itate : (a) tbe names or tbe State GOYerit (b) if so, tbe reaction of Government ments/Corporatlons with which ITDC blve of ladia thereto; aad entered into Joint Sector projects; (c) tbe action taken or proposed to be (b) the details of each project; taken in tbe ma ltcr ? (c) whether there is any proposal for a jOint lector project in Kerala; and THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Cd) if so, the details thereof? (SRRI KHURSHEBD ALAM KHAN): (I) Government has seen Dress reports to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB fhil eireet. MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL A VIATION (SHRI ASHOK GBHLOT): (b) -and (C). Government is opposed 10 (a) and (b). The information is given in tbe scttiDI up of foreign bases/facilities in the statement attached. any country and this has been conveyed to both tbe US aod Pakistan Governments on (0) No, Sir. different occaaions. (d) Does not arise, i • :sl c ~ :"" b c 0 .a... -g.g ~ 0 I)"" 0= tl • .8 f.) 1'; a .. _ 0 I at ._ CI ~ :! A 0 ! 0 - , ~ rIl .- - e - U § B 0 '"I I i .--• v .. -5 .~- .tl. s o 0. CD oS = o Q. a ~ .! Uj ~ - .t~ ,t;.!! ~...; .; """U ..;''''' '0 - ... GO I) " 8 8 8 8 8 8 ~ ~" ." .,.; ~ .... - c:I 0 N .~ . se-: ...0'\ st ....~ i 0\ .=~ ...... 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U o:! 0 U u-Cl- e as{.) ~ In ~ c:: E ~ u C'IJ --"'" u ."c; .- '"CI =6a .... ~ .. .. as 8 "" ... c. - cO 11 .~.... =u :5c. = ... e as CI =2'0= i~~ rn o e =.2 x~6 < 'E~ £~=~ o ... ., ~ as a - ..c:2""" rn-" I r!1 JI ...c"""., '0 f.) ....• -! ;'j '"a t:I.. ~ = • et• """ 8 "'"" .. ~as ~ = a ~ c= g-: "... .CI :J j eO' :: ... I ...... ca '0 e CO ..c= .t .- ._ .:...... - .<_ .•: .-...... , :S...... E- ~ ...... = ...as J! ~~ ,. e, .CI u .... ~ .g- u -! .- o CI 'i: c:I 0 i .c l! v·- ~ IIa .... 0 £ J " .. ~ .... ~ ..; .. .n \0 MAY',• ,I .. ••' 264 ADlendment of Section 309 orl.p.c. recently finalised the centralised technololJ import plan; 5772. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the Minister of HOME AFPAIRS be (b) if so, the details therefor and the pleased to state whether Government items identified in this import plan; propose to review the provisions of section 309 of the Indian Penal Code relating to (c) whether the indigenous companies attempt to commit suicide with a view to wiJl have any effect 00 this import plan; amendiol it to make it realistic in con and sonance with the changing norms and values of our society? (d) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH. (SHRIMATI RAM DtJLARI SINHA): NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS The Law Commission have recommended OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC repeal of Section 309 of the Indian Penal ENERGY. SPACE AND ELECTRONICS Code. This recommendation will kept in (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (8) and (b). mind when comprehensive amendmen t of In certain cases where a number of inves that Code is taken up. tors submit proposals to import technology for the same product the Government has Reo-Opening of Kbokaropar Munabao Rail encouraged the import OD a centralised Route basis technology to be shared by the investors. Recently tbe Government hal S773. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER selected technology for manufacture of JAIN: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL Electronics PABX and Electronic Tele AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the reply phones on this basis. given to Unstarred Question No. 1913 dated 3 March. 1983 regarding Munabao (c) and (d) Severa) Indian Companies Khokaropar Railway route and state: having licenses or letters of intent for manufacturing Electronics PABX and (a) whether Government of India have Electronic Telephones are expected to taken up with Government of Pakistan the benefit by thi:; initiative. issue of re·opening of Khokaropar Munabao rail route in the recent past; Setting up of Industries 00 Turnkey and and Pay Back Basis ia Collaboration with (b) if so, the outcome thereof? U.S.S.R. THE MINlSTER OF STATE IN THE 5775. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS SHRI SOMNATH RATH : (SHRI KHURSHEHD ALAM KHAN): <8> and (b). Government have on different Will the Minister of EXTERNAL occasions, both verbalJy and in writing, AFFAIRS be pJeased to state: requested the Government of Pakistan to agree to reopen the Khokrapar.. Monabao (a) whether tbe Soviet Union has checkpost as provided for In the Indo agreed to heJp India to set up indus.rica in Pakistan Visa Agreement of September. public and private sectors on both turnkey 1974. There bas, so far. been no positive and payback basis; response (rom the Government of Pakistan. (b) if so, the details in this reaard; Ceat,.Used Tecbaology Import Plan (C) whether GOVernment propose to set 5774. :;HRI V. SREENl VASA up these iDdustrics. in tbe country's back PRASAD: Will tbe PRIME MINISTER ward areas; be pleased to state : (d) -if 80, tbe details,in this re,ard aDd (a) wbotbcr UOiOD Gov~rDmcDt have if Dot, the re.IODs therefor; and I VAISAI(B~ 18.1907 (S,fKA) (e) the detai1s of the major projects meet the needs of thousands· of people proposed to be started in the country in coming to the city from various parts o( colla bora lion with USSR ? the country the Government of Maharashtra have made a f("quest for a Cjum of Rs. 1.000 THE MINISTtR OF STATE IN THE crores for the comi ng five yea rs from tbe MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Union Govern.l ent; (SHRI KHURSHBBD ALAM KHAN): (8) to (e). There are several proposals (b) if so, whelher the request has been under examination to expand industrial cOQsidered; collaboration with the Soviet Union to mutual benefit. The details are still beiDI (c) if 80, the total amount approved; worked out. and Effect of Eucalyptus Plantation 00 ~oil (d) if not, the reasons thereof 1 5776. SHRI K. PRADHANI: WIll the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI K.R.. NARAYANAN) ; (a) Yes Sir. (a) the total hectares of Jand in arid zones brought under eucalyptus plantation (b) to (d). The Seventh Plan of during the S.,~th Plan period; Maharashtra is still to be finalised. It may however be noted that Central assistance (b) whether a recent study has revealed for the Plans of States is provided on the that further plantation of eucalyptus will basis of the modified Gadgil FormuJa convert the soi I into deserts and spread approved by the Na tionnl Development over the sub-continent; Council for the States Plans as a whole in (c) if so, the details thereof; and the form of block loans atJd grants and not for specific project/programmes. (d) the steps taken to stop the planta tion of eucalyptus in tbe arid zones? Fake Passport Issued by the Regional Passport Offices THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 5778. SHRI O.G. SWELL: FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN): (a) The SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : information is being collected and ~iJl be placed on the Table of the House. Will the Minister of EXfERNAL (b) No study has been made which. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: reveals that further plantation of Eucalyptus will convert the soil into deserts and spread (a) whether a large number of workers over the sub-continent. were sent to Gulf countries by traveJlial agencies on the strength of fake passports (c) and (d). The questions do not arise. issued by the RegioD~1 Passport Offices; (b) whether the matter has been takeD Request by MabarashCra Government for up with the l\fioistry of External AtTairs; More Money to Develop Bombay and S777. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK : (c) if so, with what results? SHRI D.D. PATIL : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB SHRI BANW ARI LAL MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFPAIRS PUROHIT: (SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN) 2 SHRI BALASAHEB VJKHB (a) No. Sir. No cases have come to tbe . PATIL: notice of the Government, where aDt' worker was sent to Gulf countries by Win tbe Minister of PJ.,ANN)~lG be travelliog agencie,s on the strength of rat. pleascd to s ta to : pa,ssports issued by tbe Regional Passport (a) whetber to develop Bomba, and to Offices. ~7' Written .4""'''1 MAY 8, J98.5 W,ittM A1IlWerl 268 Hdwever. whenever cases of forgeries 00 situation prevaHing in Andhra. I. ha_ passports come to the notice of,tbc Govern siven notice. ~Dtl Jaw enrorcina authorities are duly intimated for conducting investigation with MR. SPBAKER: I have already takeD a vjew to take legal and penaJ action steps. I have told you it has already Men alaiost the offenders. doce. It is comins' up for discussioD tomorrow • . (b) and (c). Does not a rise. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY (Katwa): A very disturbing news items bas come in to·day's 'Indian Express'. 17.00 bu MR. SPEAKER: It has already been (Interruptions) taken up and answered. . , SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY": (TraiJ.slatlonl The Chief Minister of Mabarashtra haa SHRIMATI VIDYAWATI CHATUR .. supported that. VBDI: Mr. Speaker Sir, it has been reported in the newspaper today also that MR. SPBAKER : Nothing. Not allowed; lome police personnel have been killed by not allowed. the extremists in Punjab. Almost every (Inter,~uptions).* day we come across such reports of killings of innocent Congress workers. polic'emen ~JR. SPEAKER: Mr. Chowdhury. you and other officers by the eytremists. Such were not in the House. You were not atfoci,ties are being perpetrated. I would there. It has already been replied to. like to know from the Ooveronlent bow long all this will conti nue? The' Govern SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY: ment: want to solve this problem by ex ten· Has it been done? ding the hand of friendship and in a cordial and congenial manner but in spite MR. SPEAKER: Yes; that is why I of all this. such incidents are happening told YOll : it has been done. almost everyday. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Maveli .. MR. SPEAKER: You give it in wreting kara) : The South Indians in Bombay have I shall pass it on to the hon. Home (0 Jeave. The Shiva Sena has come to Minister who is sitting here. power there. [R"III,hl MR. SPEAKER: I have already dealt SHRt BASUDEB ACHARIA with this subject. Now Mr. Kutien (Bankura) : To-day, the peace-Joving people or the world are observing the 40th PROF. P.,. KURIEN (Idukki): We anniversary of the def~a t of Fascism. This are not setting water in the morning in our House should take up a resolution to pay flats-neither in North Avenue, nor in Bishamber Dal Marl. At 7.30 in tbe bomale. mornins .•• MR. SPEAKER: You should have aiven ,it to me earlier. We could have MR. SPBAKER.: Do you let it in the called all the people and done it. It should evening 1 You say you don't get water in have come erlier; I would have calJed a the mOrniDg. I ask you whether you let meeting. it in the evcniLS· SHRI BASUDBB ACHARIA: You P'ROF P.I. KUR.IBN: No, Sir; not in cin do·it tomorrow. evenings also. (Interrupllon8) SHar M. RAGHUMA REDDY (Nalloada): There is a serious drou,bt ·.Not recorded. VAJ""'HA 1·,_ lten (SAKA) " ", . THB MINISTB;R. OF PARLIAMEN· [Tranl/allon1 TARY AFFAIRS (SHAI H.K.L. a BHAGAT): Government will have no These things are insianifigant. objection to a CaJling Attention being Permitted on this. (English] MR. SPEAKER: You will have PROF. K.K. TEWARY: I bope you objection to it. but I wi II ha ve no objection will consider it. It in a serious matter. if you give water to the Members. SHRI K.V. SHANKARAGOWDA SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: We will give (Mandya): That was about those who do that; this Government will give the atten not get water. Wh31 about those who .bay. tiOD to tbat. (Interruptions) got no ftilt altogether? I have DO flat; MR. SPEAKER : You Provide wa ter. MR. SPEAKER: I have already dono that. (Interruptlolls) SHRI K.V. SHANKARAOOWDA: I MR. SPEAKER: Order please. I say have no Bat altogether. tbat water should be provided. It is the Minister's responsibility. I do not gain l\JR. SPEAKER: I anything out of the Calling Attention. I have all my sympa would like you to provide water. thies for you. But I have you will appre ciate tbat you have been saved of tbo difficulties or • tribula tions of going to tho SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: I will speak bath and latrine where there is no water. to tbe Minister concerned. (Interruplion~ ) PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Buxar): I have given notice under Rule 222-breach MR. SPEAKER: Take your seat. You of privilege and contempt of the House will always be sitting right here. alainst Mr. Kuldip Nayyar. (Int," up t Ions) MR. SPEAKER! It is under my con .ideratioD. SHRI H.A. DORA : Pakistan has developed nuclear weapons ... PROF. K.X. TEWARY: He has cast atated an aspersion on the Chair, and he has (Interruptlonl) that action has not been taken against me. MR. SPEAKER: Nothing is to be discussed berea It is Dot discussed like thi,. MR.. SPEAKBR : It is under nlY con No discussion here. You come to my sideration. Chamber and we will see to it. (Tnuulation) (Interruptions) Tewaryji, please leave' it; in c~s~ a MR. SPEAKER ! I want order in the person does not know what he is wrlhng, House. Hon. Members! Do you think then what can I do , that this is some place where you can chat lito this slanding in the aisle? What are you (..,,111"] supposed to do here? Please take your seats. PROP. K,K. TBWARY: Sometbiol .bould be done about it. Now, papers to be laid. , (lll'."lIPtion,) --~- MR. SPEAKBR..: I wUI see. I will ~4~r".lt. Pal"'" lalli 272 12.06 hr•• Authority of India for the yoar 1983·84. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLB (3) A statement (Hindi and BOlli,b versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the pa pers mentioned at Noti8catioDs under Air Corporations Act, 1953 (2) above. (Placed In Librar)'. See No. LT.871j85j THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL (4) (i) A copy of the AnDual Report AVIATION (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT) : (Hindi and En,lish versions) or I beg to lay on the Table : - the Air India for the year 1983 .. 84 together with Reports of its subsidiaries viz Hotel Corpora (1) A copy each of the following tion of India Limi ted and Air Notifications (Hindi and English India Charters Limited, ul'der versions) under sub-section (4) of sub·section (2) of section 37 of section 4S of the Air Corporations the Air Corporations Act, 1953. Act, 1953 :- (Ji) A Copy of the Annual Accounts (i) Tke Air-India Employees' Pas (Hindi and English Versions) sage (Amendment) Regulations, of the Air India for the year 1981 published in Notifiea tjon 1983·84 and the Audit Report No. HQ/79 in Gazette of India thereon, under sub-section (4) dated the 10th November. 1984 of section 15 of the Air together with an explanatory Corpora tions Act. 1953. Dote. (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi (ii) The Air-India Employees' and English versions) by the Service (Amendment) Regula Government on the working of tions, 1984 published in Notift.. the Air India and its subsidiaries cation No. HQ/66-12 in Gazette viz Hotel Corporation of India of India dated the 15th Limited and Air India Charter. December, 1984 together with Limited for the year 1983-84. a corrigendum thereto published in Gazette of India dated the 9th February. 1985 together (5) A statemen t (Hindi and Bnglish with an explanatory note. versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers mentioned at [Placed In Library. See No. LT-870j85] (4) above. [Placed iTl Library. See No. LT-871/8S] (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) of Resolution Re: Constitution of Galli. the Interna tionaJ Airports Authority of India for the year Autbority 1983-84 along with Audited Accoun ts, under sub-section (2) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of section 25 and sub·sectioD MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT A.ND (4) of section 24 of the Interna FORESTS (SHRI VIR SEN) : I bea to tional Airports Authority Act, lay on tbe Table a copy of tbe Resolution 1971. No. Q. 14011/4/84.EPC (I) (Hindi and EDIlisb versions) dated tbe 16th February. (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi 1985 publisbed in Gazette of India dared and English versions) by the tbe 16th February, 1985 reaardinl CODI· Government on the workios of titution 01 Centra) Gaoaa Autbority. the InternaUonal Airports [PlGced In LIb,..)' 8 •• No. LT..". Pa,.n lAid VAISA'KHA 18, lS07 (aSWeA) PaJJB4 LaId 274, Re,lewaDd ADau. Reports of tbe UalOD (5) A statement (Hiodi and English Pahlfc Senlee C018m.. Joa. 18dla. Maseum. vorsions) showi.n, reasons ft)r deJay Calcutta etc. io laying the papers mentioned at (4) above. THE MlNISTER OF STATE OF THE [Placed I" Library. See No. LT-876/851 MINISTRY OP COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): On (6) (i) A copy of the Anoual Report bebalf of Shri K.P. Singh Deo I beg to lay (Hindi and EoSJish versions) ot on the, Table :- . tbe Victoria Memorial Hall. Calcutta, for the year 1983·84 (1) A copy each of the fo1l0wing along with Audited Accounts. papers (Hindi and English versions) under article 323(1) of the Consti (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi tution : and Ena1fsh versions) by the Government on the wotkinl of (i) Thirty-fourth Report of the tbe Victoria Memorial Hall, Union Public Service Com· Calcutta, for the year 1983-84. mission for the period from 1st April, 1983 to 31st March, (7) A statement (Hindi and English 1984. versions) showing reasons for delay in laying tbe papers mentioned at (6) above. (ii) Memorandum explaining the reasons for non-acceptance of [Placed In Library. See No. LT-877/85] the advice of the (lnion Public Service Commission in cases (8) (i) A copy of the Annual Report referred to in the above Report. (Hindi and English versions) of tbe NationaJ Scbool of Drama, [Placed ill Library. See No. LT-874/85) New Dalhi, for the year 1983-84 (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report along with Audited Accounts. (Hindi and English versions) of tbe Indian Museum, Calcutta, (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi for the year 1983 .. 84 along with and English versions) by the Audited Accounts. Government on the working of the National School of Drama, (ii) A copy of the Roview (Hindi New Delhi, for the year 1983·84. and English versions) by the (9) A statement (Hindi and English Government on the working of versions) showing reasons for delay the Indian Museum, Calcutta, in laying the papers mentioned at for the year 1983-84. (8) above. (3) A statement (Hindi and English [Plac~d in Librory. See No. LT-878/85} versions) showing reasons for delay (10) (i) A copy of the Annual Report in layi,ng the papers mentioned at (Hjndi and English versions) of (2) above. . the Khuda Bakhsh Ori~nta) [Placed In Libra,)'. See. No. LT·875/8Sj Public Library, Patna, for tbe year 1983-84 alooa with Audited, (4) (i) A copy of the Annual' Report Accounts. (Hindi and English versions) of the Lalit Kala Akademi, New (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi Delhi, for the year 1983·84 and English versions) by tbe along with Audited Accounts. Oovernmco t OD t be wotkin, or the Khuda Bakbsh Oriental (if) A copy of· the Review (Hindi Public Library. Patna. for tbe and Enllish versions)' by tbe year 1983·84. OQvernmcnt on tbe working of the Lalit Kala Akaderni, New (11) A statement (Hindi and En,Hah ,Delh,. for tbe ),ear 1983·84. versioDs) ahowiDI reasOQs for del., MAY 8.,1985 Calling Attention If) Ma"s, 0/ U,.,enl Public Importanc. in layinl the papers mentioDed at En,Usb versions) in regard to· (10) above. the Report. [Pltl~d in Librar,. see No. LT.. 879j85] [P/acpd In Library. Set' No. LT-88~/8SJ llevlew aDd Annual Report of the RellabllltatiOD Plaotatloos Limited. PUDalur, ADaaal AssessmeDt Report Cor tbe spread 12.10 brl. ad development of Hindi CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE MINISTRY OF HOMB AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): [English] I beg to lay on the Ta ble :- Reported supply of maps of sensitive and (I) A copy each of the following papers restricted areas in Kerala and Indo-Burma (Hindi and English versions) under border by some DOD-official agencies to some sub-section (I) of section 619A of foreign agencies without obtaining prior the Companies Act, 1956 :- clearaDce (1) Review by the Government on SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat): tbe working of the Rehabilita I call the attention of the Minister of tion Plantations Limited, Home Affairs to the following matter of Punalur, for tbe year 1983·84. urgent public imports'Dce and reques t that he may make a statement thereon: (ii) Annual Report of the Rehabili tation Plantations Limited, "Reported supply of maps of sensitive Punalur, for the year 1983-84 and restricted areas in Kerala and along with Audited Accounts Indo-Burma border by some non and the comments of the Comp official agencies to some foreign troller and Auditor General agencies without obt~ ioing prior thereon. clearance from concerned authorities. thereby viola ting the Officia I Secrets (2) "A tement (Hindi and English sta Act and Map Restriction Policy and versions) showing reasons for delay the action taken by the Government in laying tbe papers mentioned at in the matter.'t (1) above. [Placed in Library. See No. LT.. 880/85] THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): Sir, I rise to (3) A copy of the Annual Assessment speak on the subject of reported supply of Report (Hindi and English versions) maps of sensitive and restricted areas by on the Programme and its imple lome non-official agencies to some foreign mentation for accelerating the agencies without obtaining prior clearance spread and development of Hindi from tile concerned auth crities. and its progressive use for the various official purp08es of the 2. Sir. according to the information Union, for tbe year 1983-84. gathered from the Kudal Commission of which is inquiring into the working [Placed In Library. See No. LT-881/85] Inquiry, and activities including publications of the (4) (i) A copy of the Twenty"Third Asso~iation of VoJuntary Agencies for Report (Hindi and English Rural Development (AVARD). certain versions) of the Deputy Com allegations had been made- that some time missjoner for Linguistic Minori· in earl, 197$, AVARD arranged to obtain ties in India tor the period from copies of restricted maps of areas in July, 1982 to June, 1983. Nagaland and supplied such copies to a foreilft agency as a part of a p)an, namely, (ii) An BxpJanaloey KQtel(Hindi and '-tho Development Plan of ScleQted A ..... <\ 27' Calli", Attention 10 U""en' Public MQtt~,of Importance of Nagaland u. The purposo of this plan country's security and intc,rity. Auy was to 'obtain (unds to be utilised by parti indiVidual or organisation which is found cular agencies, namely, Nagaland Peace engage in activities prejudicial to nationa) Centre, Kohima and NagaJand Gandhi . secarity will be deait with sternly ill Asbram. During the course of the investiga accordance with tbe provisions of tbe law. tions it also came to the notice of the Commission that some maps of restr_icted SHRI INDRAIIT GUPTA: This is • areas of Vcllanad Panchayat. KeraJa. have serious matter but from the statemeat been published in a book entitled "Educa which he has read out just now there is a tion for Development" published by likelihood of an impression being created AVARD. In order to determine the nature tha t the preparation of these restricted mapa and importance of tbe maps published in and the supply of them to some foreigD these publications, the Commission obtained agencies is something which is of a vcry tbe comments and advice of the Survey of recent occurrence, just taking place now India and Ministry of Defence in the and has sudden Iy come to light. matter. The Survey of India has opined that some of thlse maps pertain to tbe From the information which I have at restricted areas and as such needed my disposal, it is not so at all. This is clearance both from the Office of the something which has been goinS on for Surveyor Genera I of India as weJJ as the several years and I would like to know Ministry of Defence. It is a Iso mentioned poin t blank from the Government whether that some of the maps published in these this is the first time that this has c(\me to publications wrongly depict borders of the notice of the Government of the basis India. The Ministry of Defence have also of some information which they have now informed the Comnlission tbat some of gathered from the Kudal Commission and these maps were of redricted areas and whether it is a fact that it has been Boing their publication and open circula tion was for the Jast seven or eight years. not permissible without prior approval of the Ministry of Defence. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB Kudeal Commission! 3. 00 the completion of the preliminary investigations, the Commission having satisfied itself about -the existence of the MR. SPEAKER : It is in 1975, Sir. prima IQci~ case of violation of the Official Secrets Act and the Map Restriction Policy SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA! It came has issued a notice under se~tion 8(b) of to the knowledge of the Government. tbe Commissions of Inquiry Act 1952 '0 afford opportunity to the AVARD. Naga [Trtlns/aflon] land Peace Centre, Nagalang Gandhi PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: He Ashram and Mitra Niketan to show cause is now -bringing in the Kudal Commission. and produce evidence, if any. in tbeir d~fence. The show cause notice issued by (English] the Commission requires persons represc n t in, these organisations to appear bef~Ie SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : I am not the Co~issioo-on 13th May, 1985. interested in Kudal Commission; they caD do what they like with it. 4. Thus, as would be clear from tbe facts mentio.ned above, the alJegatioDs I would like to know or pinpoint. what against the AVARD and its closeJy con is the attitude and action taken by tbe nected organisations regardinJ the publica Govetnment in this matter because it baa tion of maps or'restricted areas without been known to the lovernm~Dt for maDI proper authorisation are already beiDa years. For example. from 19S8.. 59 to inquired ioto by the Kudai Commission of Inquiry, ' , 1966·67 this organisation known .s ,the AVARD was openly geuins funda from tho ". 'I take this opportunity to a.s~re -this Asia Foundation which later OD was dia" :',UI"st-:'Houac t'bat Government is maintain~ closed to be a conduit, aD .Pucy of,_ t~ iDa utmOit vililaDce to sateauard tbo CIA. Later on, iD 1968 the GoveJ1UDlllt 279 MAY 8, 1985 280 Biked the Asia Poundation to wind up its thing? Why these types of maps cODtainiDI establishment in India. And as far as we all tbis strategic important inro.rmation 'know that after 1968. direct dODatioD8 are being prepared, published and sent out from the Asia Founda lion to this AVARD for the Jast several years to these forei,D oraanisation probably ceased. But AVARD ageDcies? And the Goveroment is doiDl is a'D organisa tion which has got affiliated nothing about it. I really cannot under to it a Jarge number of other organisations. stand it. The Kudal Commission was sct I am told that their number runs into over up only in 1982. But what I am referrina nine bundred which are operating in to bas been going on at least 1 S years various parts of tbe country in tbe name before that. Surely I take it that the Homo of the variow; rural development schemes. Ministry and the Defence Ministry and all Por example, I would like to know whether these intelligence agencise are aware of the Home Minister can confirm or not what is going on. flow is it that no. action tbat in 1974, that is, after the Government is taken against these people who are bad asked the Asia Foundation to wind up responsible? I am told that after tbe its estabJishemen t heie in India, in 1974 Kudal Commission has started functioning. these number agencies-rather the affiliated these peopJe to whom not ices are given for agencies-of AVARD such as tbe NagaJand appearance and aU that, they have fre Peace Centre, Kobima, the Nagaland quently been going to courts and getting Gandhi Ashram, Chuchuyimlang, NagaJand ~tay orders, injunctions and a IJ that and and all such organisations in that year 1974 refusltlg to appear before the CommiSSlon al received respectively Rs. 22,34,000 and Rs. all. I co no' know what ;s going to 19,55,000 from this organisation in West happen. He has mentioned that some Germany which is called EZE. The full fresh not icc has bee n given by the Com .. name I have got with me, but it is very mission asking then} to appear a few days difficult to prODounce, because it is all hence of this olonth. They will not appear. German. The names of the members of this They will go to courl and get some stay organisation are known and these maps are order or sonlething and on a technical being printed here. These maps are pre objection they will avoid any real investi pared, [hey are pubJished- tbey must be gation of these allegations IJgainst them. published by some printing presses, and After a 11 these so-ca j Jed spy trials and the Government ought to be able to tell us espionage plot which you discovered and which are the printing presses where these told us about a t [be beginning of this sesSion maps are being printed and published and and last session and about which nothing is these maps are being sent to West Germany, heal d now, one does not know how much to that organisation cal1ed EZB. credibility to give to tbe work of our jnteJJigenie agenccjes. Here is a thing wbicb This has nothing to do wi th the findings is going on more or less openly and which or the Kudal Commission. I want to is known to the Government. It is not know. what the great Home Ministry witb something which is secretly being donc. all its intelligence agencies has been doing Why these bord:r areas are being selected all these years because the Ministry of Nagaland, north-eastern border, even ono Defence and the Survey of India have Dot place situated. on the Kera)a border and only made submissions before tbe Com West BengaJ border? These oT,anisationl mission, which he has referred to just which are supposed to be some kind of now saying that these maps have been either charitable organisations or organi. prepared without the, necessary permission sations of religious missionaries or some of these Ministries and the Survery of thing. this is not their job to prepare some lodia. It is an offence-criminal offence maps and send them out in return of some which is punishable. Not only that; these money received from abroad. I' have maps have revealed vital information such nothiDI alainat missionaries doing tbeir as for example tbe state of communi legitimatc work in this country .. But this ca'tions 'in tbose areas, the location of Is Dot tbeir Jositimate work or Jeshiml'tc te'lephone exchanges. tbe, Da tiona) and activity ~ I want to know from 1he Govern state highways, other toposraphicaJ land ment as to what they have been doiol aU mark. and other details. What is tbe these years. They know aU these chiD,•• Ac purpose of this? It is Dot a very sinister leut 20 lueh maps hav~"beeQ r~lcrrCd;.~ 281 Call1nt ~tl,ntlnn to VAISAKHA 18, 1906 (S.ltCA) Urgent Public Matl.rof Importance b:(ore the Kudal Commission, whicb have SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Thut will be been published and sent abrord. Govern very difficult to say. 1 do Bot think: it wi)) ment hus Dot ir~vesljgated an)thing on its be possible for me to giv~ ihe tource (rom own through its 'inteJhgrnce agencies to \\here tbey got it. find out who is doing this, why they are doing it. who are the people concerned. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Was it any Are there some people involved against Government investigative agency or some whom the Government is afraid of taking PI iva te pel son? action? I do not know whether there are some important and big people involved or SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: At least the Dot against whom the Government does not informa tion tha t I have wi th ,me only want to move at the cost of the security of shows that a reference was made by KudaJ the country. Please tell us something more Commission and thereafter the Surveyor about this, thro-N some light about this General of India and. the De fence Ministry instead of simply telling tha t the Kudal seem to have reacted to sOlne of tile infor.. Commission has found it out after 1982. ma tiOD which was cross·ch( eked with them, They will proceed as a Commission of in which the Defence Ministry did say tbat Inquiry a nd they wi II go on for years and those ~ere restricted areas and nobody was years. There are so rna ny ways by which supposed to print and enlarge- or circuJa te these things can be prolonged and the in the wa,Y it had been dODe in the case of actual investigation can be avoided. But in the book which has been printed by the meantime. all this vital strategic infor A\,ARD. It is a fact that a large number mation is being leaked out and the Govern of slay orders have been brought against ment is doing nothing about it apparently. the working of the Kudal Commission. But No measures of any kind have been taken. We are now seized of the matt\!r. We are So, I am accusing the Government of going to djscuss aga in with the Kudal Com playing ducks and drakes with the security mission irrespective of the interim report of the country. Here is a concrete evidence which they might sunlit later on. Govern of that. I would like to know what they ment having come TO know of this, have to are proposing to do. consult the lB, the CHI and other agencies PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: and will lake definite action if it is called Kudal Commission is harassing only the for. innocent. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: My SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: It ·is correct questions have not vcc:n answered. From that the activities of the AVARD and irs what the Mini~ter has said now, it seems affiliates have been there since 1958. They that it is really an admission that they have have been getting huge contributions from done nothing so far. Tt:ey llew propose to foreign agencies. About the publication of take aCtion. He himself S8)S that in 1958 maps of restricted areas, these books were these con triblltions frc.m the Asia Founda brought to the notice of the Kudal Com tion to AVARD were 'known and they were mission in 1984. stopped by the Governrr.ent. The Asia Foundation was expcsed and (he CIA 12.20 hra. conduit do it and its office here was closed [Mr. Deputy Speaker in the Chair] down. After that time to this date, am I to know that the Government and its Previous to tbat it was only a general agencies never bothered to investiaate kind of allegation which was being made further or to find cut \\Iha t these people against the AVARD and the affiliated were doing or \\-ha t they were us.ing this agencies. But, now substantial proof bas money for? The)' have not done it. Let been produced by some of tbe agencies ..• . him admit that they have been lax in this matter complete1y fbcuSh tbe country', (Int( rrup! 10115) security was invoJv(d. Only now that tbe SURI INDRAJIT GUPTA Who matter has come up, the Kudal Co.nmi,ssloD btouabt it to the notice of the Kudal bas given some information and thi $ 'm~uter Commission? bas come in Parliament, they say that they MAY 8, 1985 bave to ask the IB and somebody and through these orsanisations that lawlessness somebody else to do something. Wha' kind and strikes were tried in Bihar aDd Gujarat of attitude it is? It shows the lack of right from 1971 to 1975, aod the people seriousness comple te I),. who were supporting those strikes were d:rectly associated with these organisacioils. Efforts were made to see that the elected SHRI S.D. CHAVAN : From 1958 to respresentatives were not allowed to enter 1976, I think th~ informarion that 1 have at my disposal, clearly ,shows that it was the assemblies and they indulged in sabot only a very g4!neral kind of aJlegation age. There was a students' revolution at that \\!hich was made against AVARD and their tiine and it was these people who helped activities, but nothing serious had corne to them. The centre of all these activities has Oovtrnment's notice. No investigation was always been the 'Gandhi Peace Foundation' and one of ilS office. bearers •• has been done. At least tha t is the informa tion tha t I have. Now, since these matters about either the President or General Secretary two definire allegations which are prima or treasurer or member of the Executive facie established in the KudaJ Commission, Committee of over 100 organisations out of have cotne to Government's notice, certainly about 900 sU,ch organisations. He had action hereafter will be taken. misused tbe funds against the Government, i e., Shrimati Indira Gandhi's Government. During the elections they issued pamphlets {Translation] and posters pJe~(ling that people should Dot support or co... operate with Govern SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL ment. I would like to quote from one of (Chandoi Chowk): Mr. Deputy Speaker the speeches of Shrimati Indira Gandhi Sir. the case that bas come to light before which she had delivered some time prior to td today is very sensational. Thel e are her death. macy foreign powers which have b~en send- ini money to the cultural and social organisations in the country wilh the inten· tion of creating chaotic conditions in the C'-'.lotry. They have selected such institu "The allegations against the Gandhian tions as had been named after Gandhiji bodies were that money received like 'Gandhi Peace Foundation' 'Gandhi from the foreign •.• " Memorial Fund' and 'Sarva S.!va Sangh'. These institutions were asked to spread MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Jai lawlessness in the border States. Their Prakash Agarwal, you put any question if fUl1ction was to get secret maps of tbose you want to. You need not necessarily read Sf ;as where the Defence Ministry had anything from that. You have not taken im pos~d certain restriction. They did these permission. jubs, prt=pared the maps and tried to sell them in foreisn countries so that the PROF. N.,O. RANOA: Theore is DO 'foreign powers interested in spreading harm. lawlessness in the country aud its disinte gration could become stronger and suppJy MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER : No, he bas more money to these organisations to get not taken permission to read from that. ' their work done and harm the country. All this started way back ill 1962 through an SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD organisation' called the Asia Foundation (BhagaJpur): It is not an allegation. ' but it was only in 1968 that Government came co know of its links with CIA j which MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Not allega was ttying to in5ligat~ subvc!rsive activities tion, but be is mentioning the names. and the spreading of law)essness in the. country, and a ban was then imposed on SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: that organisation. 10 spite of the ban the I am refe~ring to what was published in the money inflow flom the foreign countries Indiall Express. did not SlOp. You would Icca1J that after ·1971 when Shdmati )ndittt Gandhi won the elections with a' huge majority. it was .·NOl recorded. 285 Calling· dtt_tlon to VAISAKHA 18, 19J7 (S fK,.f) U'Iell t Public 286 Matt.ro/ Importance "The aUela tions a,sinst the Gandhian PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: In bodies were tbat money received from that statement alJ the references are tbere. foreign ahd internal. sources for In the past it was prevented. diaging wells and for the drought-hit States like Orissa were misutilised. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Professor, The Opposition parties must be if there is any name mentioned, it would patient and should understand the not go in the record. na lure of the inquiry by the Kudal SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: I Commission and not place hurd les should respectfully submit that we should against it." rea lise the seriousness of Ihis. This ollani sation is confinuously supplying maps ou.'. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE side. The persons who are associated must (Rajapur): I am on a point of order. In be exposed in this House. What is wrons CaJlins Attention there can be a point of about it ? order.. MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER: If any Firstly I do not object to his raising the name he bns to mention he must get prior issue. But 1 on ly wan t to tc II you tba t permission. Otherwise it would not go on sometimes very important persons holding record. office in this country have some am(1unt in the foreign banks. About them aho refe PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I rences were made and it had appeared in have made nly position clear. Even jf Press. And when that was quoled, the a nyone is exposed ••• Speaker had pointed out that even if it has appeared in the Press, the Press will take (Interruptions) responsibility outside, but you should not raise it if there are certain allegations, PROF. MADHU DANDAVTE: If about whj'ch you have not. given a proper Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad wants to say that notice and jf you have not authenticated J am shielding anyone, let me make it that, you would not be allowed to raise it. clear. I am the Jast man to be worried a bou t such SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : I have allegations. About Jayaprakash Narain not sa id fIla t. also allegations have been made in this House, but I want to tell you tbat this is the precedence. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: What I an) telling you is what the previous SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: But procedure bas 'been. Eve.} if anybody is tn how does that precedeDt come in this way 7 be exposed in this House, we have to live in writing and if a document is to be PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : They quotl'd that also has to be supplied. Then are exactly identical. There are references it. can be done. If that is done. I have no you. to institutions ~nd individuals. objection. I will also join SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: He is SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: What ,quoting former Prime Minister in relation objectionable thing has he quoted. He is to, her speech. There is nothing wrong about within his right to Quote the reference. it. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB : PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He What I am objectiog to is referenco to is not attentive. Dame in that. SRR! BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: I am ~lR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: Names attentive. He said tbat Mr. Radbakrisbnan canoot be allowed. is' . President, Vice.President. triumvir of hundreds' of orsanisations iDeL ding the SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: It il Gandhi Peace Foundation. What is wronl a· statement of facts tbat are known, tbero about. It i$ a statement 0.' fa~t, is nothing wrong about it. 2G7 ~' Callinl Atl.,llion to Matt., of MAya., 1985 Urgln, Public Importance 28i rule which clearly says, any deramatory PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE: alleaation cannot be made. I expect tbe Deputy-Speaker to give the Ruling. SHRI BHAGAWAT JHA AZAD: What is defamatory? This is not defema· SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : 'Sir, Mr. tory. Madhu Dandavato in all his wisdom wants to dictate· to the House. H.; says that (Inte'ruptlon~) wbenev:r any Member in this House wants wilJ to make allegations or w~nts to read some MR. DEPUTY· SPEAKER : That I tbing about the Members present here, he go through. must get tbe previous permission, but not SHRI BHAGAWAT JHA AZAD: about tbe people outside. W ha t wi II you go through ? (Interruptions) (/nterrllptlons) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That can SHRI K.H. RANGANATH: I was in not be aHowed. the Karnataka Assembly for two long years. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : What Mr. Deputy-Speaker. a man who quotes cannot be allowed? You tel I me. . takes the responsibility for it. How is it defamatory? It is for you to decide. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Anyallega tions made, I won't allow. MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: He should give prior notice. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: •• It is all according to the rules of tbe SHRI BHAGA W AT JHA AZAD: House. How is j t deC ama tory ? MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : There are PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, rules. If there are any defama tory I wish to make it clear because I do not remarks ... want to hurt others. (1-- tel" uptton.'f) (Interruptions) SHRf BHAOWAT JHA AZAD: We SHRI BHAOAWAT JHA AZAD: It are in Parliament. We are guided by the is Dot defama tory. It is a statement of rules of Parliament. I say, if we do other facts. wise, it means we are against the interests of' the country. Now, he is not doing any PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE : I do tbing wrong. not want my coJJeague to misunderstand me. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Aza(i. any name mentioned whether it is of inside SHRI BHAOAWAT JHA AZAO: We or outside, without the permission if any are not misunderstancfing you. allegation is made against him, I won't allow. SHRI 'BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : I will PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: I tell you, before your coming in the Chair, am Dot objr.!cting to any names 10 be thotlsands of names have been mentioned mentioned. I have also not said that be in the House, and we will read those names has made an allegation. Igain and again You can't make ~ust a sweeping remark like that. SHRI BliAGAWAT JHA AZAD : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, on. a point of ,order say MR. DEPUTY· SPEAKER : If you that·· is the President of a hundred orpni" , weant, I can read out the rule. There is a satioDs, he is the President or Secretary or •• Not recorded. •• Not recorded. VAISA... '" It07 rS~Kd) u,.,.. , Public ImJHJrtflll« Treasurer. i. it defamatory.1. It is a .tate. point of order aDd it relates to the ordor ment of facts. Tbe sweeping remark tbat and runnin, of the business of this House' yqu have made is surprisioa. We know tbe fules, we know what tb~ words 'defama tory' and 'incriminatory' PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. mean. A.zad, I want to say this .•.. But I am afraid that we are takiDI SHRI BHAGAWAT JHA AZAD: Why these things too far. are you saying tbis to me? ( Inttrruptlon,) (!Ilterruptlons) SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Why PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, are you coming in? He has given a ruling I am supporting what he said. (Interruptlon$) on tbat. We are not taking about you. I again hold, I am not objecting, I am one with Mr. Azad that names can be mentioned, (lnttrruptions) institutions can be mentioned, but I am only pointing out. .. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Swell is on his It'gs. Let him continue. Others SHRI BHAGAWAT JHA AZAD: It need not argue. is just in the national interest and you are making this remark. SHRI 0.0. SWELL: AfJow me to finish my speech~ (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: I I seek your guidance whether tbis am only pointing out that names and insti House can be treated as a co))ege or a tutions also can be referred. I am not debating society in which one has to say raising that point. I say that if any alle certain things theoretically or certain things gations have to be made about individuals, academically or is this House to discu!s the only they must take in writing perflJission . affairs of tbe country. Can you divorce and take the responsibility. the atTa irs of this country from the indivi duals involved in it so that we cannot mention any name? So, please give me SHRI BHAOAWAT JHA AZAD: I ruling on that. also fully agree with you. But I am only referring to the Deputy-Spoakers·s r~mark SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: to' say that in this AVARD case if Mr. A Thousands of names are being mentioned is connected with hundred institutions, every day. what is defamatory? I agree with you, that is right. But he is disagreeing now. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will 10 Unfortunately your point of order bas through the record and I will consider it. made the Deputy-Speaker disagree. You it is not I will and I know the rules, we ·are perfectly If defamatory. not expunge it. right. But Mr. Deputy-Speaker is ... (Interruptions) SHRI O.G. SWELL: I have raised tbe poi nt of order. I want your ruling. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. DOD't say that. MR. DEPUTY ·SPEAKER: I will 80 through the record. If there is any defame ... · .("lI~rruptlon$).· tory remark aga inst any perSOD, I wHI expunge it from the record. MR. DEPUTY SPBAKER: Notbing will 10 on record. His observation will SHRT BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: How Dot SO on record. is it defam.Jory. I want to know. SHRI G.O. SWELL: Sir, I am on a ...... _._._ ... _...... _-"-_ .. - .. ---'-- MR. DEPUTY-SPBAKBR : Tbat I will .*Not recorded. 80 tbroush the prooeedinas. 291 Calling J4 '""tlon 10 Mlltt', 0/ MAY 8,198' 2ti SHRI G.O. SWELL: Going through years buck it appeared in the newspapeR,' tbe record is one thing and giving your that·. had links with the CIA... .. rulinl on the point of order is a-nother. If you cannot do it now, take your time and The then Government stopped tbo come back to the House. I have raised my enquiry. Is it not a proof of the fact that pOint of order. both these things were the same and these people had given prot.!ction and they were SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: involved and wanted that activities of Sir, I was reading out a part of the speech sabotage should take place in the country. of Shrima ti Ind ira Gandhi : [English] "The allegations against the Gandhian bodies were that money received MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Mr., from foreign and internal sources for Agarwal, mentioned about CIA connection. digging wells in drought hit States ( Interruption $) including Orissa was misutilised. "The Opposition Parties must be MR. JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: It patient and understand the nature of was in the newspaper. It is an open fact. enquiry of Kudal Commission and create hurdles in the course of probe, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That I not she said." cannot allow. I would not allow. This is not the way. [Translation] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: All Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, these are leaders including the Congress leaders have many such bodies and institutions which said that we protest against the allegation have received money from abroad to the made against •• Let it be very clear. tune of lakhs of rupees. The "Banvasi Seva Kendra", Abhora recived Rs. 42 SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: He lakhs. "Citizens Voluntary Traaining did not say,·. is a CIA agenr. PJease Centre' Kohima Rs. 76 lakhs. Mahatma understand. He did not say that.. was a Gandhi Seva Ashram" Zora Rs. 33 lakhs, CIA agent. Hs said, it was published in 'Tagore Society' (or Rural Development' those days. Somebody said so and it bad West Bengal Rs. 89 Jaks, 'Shyama Prasad been published and had been on the record Institute of Culture,' West Bengal Rs. 16 of the House. We never call.. a CIA laks, 'T.A. Gramdao Sangb' Assam Rs. 31 agent. lakhs 'Mandara Un8yan' West Bengal Rs. 38 lakhs ·Nirpad' U.P. Rs. 200 lakhs and He was tbe Prime Minister. He was a 'AVARD' New Delhi Rs. 306 lakhs. good public man. We only say 'Some of the persons f)ublished in newspapers', That Mr. Deputy Speakers, Sir, a person who is all. It is a reference which is beiDI indulges in spreading anarchy, sabotage and made. It is being said tbat this Kudal harms the interests of the country is called a Commission, when the Government came trator. Who are these traitors? In first in power certain things happened and all catesory are those people who indulge in tbat happened was that the papers of the spch activities and the others nre those who AVARD were referred back and sent back lupport them. I would like to tell you that to the Commission. Why? Anybody may what happened between 1971 and 1975 like to ask and to know. He did not say and tbe enquiry that was instituted ]ater tha t, we never say tha t, a nd none of UI 00, the reasons why the enquiry was say that he is a CIA agent. But when it stopped in the years between 1977-79 and was published in the newspapers, it is a tbe papers tbat were confiscated from these fact of tbe time. We are only quoting it. Oraanisations were returned back to them. Does it not indicate that the then Govern. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. That ment were also involved in it ? is to say ... 1 would like to remind you that a few **Not recorded. Calit", At/~~tion io Ur86ntPuhHc 294 Matter 01 Importance SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : •• SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Not a taU. ( Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: All MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Bven for that I want to teU you is even jf you read making an al_)egation, a news item cannot a report in the press that "so and so Prime be mentioned. Minister or the present Prime' Minister is KGB agent or some other agent it is not SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: -. my COD tention, but press has said that such You must go by the rules in tbe House. and such Minister or Home Minister is an agent KGB", can I run away with that? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Do not That is aU I am saying. teach me. It is too much you are speaking. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : I am happy you come down every time. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: You have to hear if. You cannot do otherwise. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: Riabt You are.* bound by the rules. from the beginning, I sa id that. You go through that. (Interruptionl) (Interruption ... ) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: If PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : It is some newspaper says that ... , there. I remember I have said it. I have (Interruptions) said. I am not objecting to it. I have gone on record. I am not objecting. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: How During Zero HOUf, Prof. Madhu Dandavate quotes from the newspaper, not from his can you object to it ? personal knowledge. Every day we see bim. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I only said that if in the further statement, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: I never quote anything from the .•• he makes any allegetion, then only 1 will object to it. I am on record. I have said SHRI BHAGW AT JHA AZAD : When that so far I have not objected. I am 00 you shout in the Zero Hour» you say press r:cord. news has come, not your own news. SHRI BAHGWAT JHA AZAD : There is no problem between you and me. How PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That can we say we have another problem? is different. I I am saying about foreign aaeney. If it is said that a Chief Minister SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGRAWAL: Mr. is reported to have made some slatement, Sp'eaker, Sir, in the institutions which were that is totally different But jf someb( dy receiving funds and whose main function said tbat I have read the report that.* is was to propagate a Mahatma Gandhi~' a CIA Agent or some other agent •.• achievemen ts, it is surprising how such books , were kept in the Library by them. It proved SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD:) that Gandhiji was an ordinary man and know that in Janata Government time, the Nathuram Godse a great mao. This book records of the AVARD were returned to shows that the killing of Gandhiji by tilem. But, if tbe Government does it, what Nathuram Godse was a justified action. I can you do" would like to read out the remarks 01 Justice S. Mohan of the Higb Court who PROP. MADHU DAND.4VATE: You bas said: need Dot cast aspersions on me. I did not. do,-It. (English 1 "If really tbat library bas been establisbed to propagate Mahatma ~.Not recorded. MAY 8.19'$ V,.,ent ',,6Hc 1mpa,tfMIefl Oaodi's ideals, it passes my com aiveD to tbe House. these arc really very prebension how tbe library could serious made against AVARD. But it will brioa Oopal Godse's book: wbicb by be difficult for me to react immediately no uncertain terms yilifies the Father whether these papers were returned during of the Nation in every possible way. 1977·78 because the issue which has been The reader will have a poor opinion brouaht to our notice is in tbe sbape of about Mahatma Gandhi who had CalJin8 Attention Notice and that too, only sacrificed his life for the uplift of about publication of certain maps whJch the down-trodden, worked incessantly were for a restricted area and their beiDI (or the unity of the country." circulated outside the country; that is the subject-matter of this Calling Attention [TranI/at/on) Notice, As far as may information goes, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to know why these are the very al·legations which are the subject-matter of, inquiry with the Kudal when these people and institutions were Commission, and unless they come to a found to be indulging in such activities. definite conclusion, it will be very difficult tbey were not arrested and their passports for tbe Government to proceed against any seized? Why was criminal action not one. But there are some aspec's of Ihis initiated against them? If we let such inquiry: if Government suo mo~u also people mov" freedy to indu1ge in subversive would like to take up certain \.:quiries activities in the country, then I fear, we against some individuals jf they are found would not be able to protect the freedom prima facie responsible for violating the of our coun fry. the freedom won by tbose who provisions of the Official Secrets Act and bad sacrificed tLeir lives to make this also the restricted poJicy about maps which COUlltry free, those who bad faced bullets the ~efence Ministry has been foUowing, and lathis and bad gone to jails, those who certainly we would like to consult all con bad embraced the hangmao's noose and the cerned and initiate action if it is called soldiers who had laid down their Jives to for. protect this freedom; we will not be able to protect such hard-earned freedom if . . PROF. N.O. RANOA (Guntur): How some political parties continue to patronise IS It that Governm..:nt has not acted at aJJ ? such elements .... (Inlerruptfon"J. It Jooks as if somebody is sleeping all the time . . I would like to ask two questions. [Translarion) [English] SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazipur): These are my questions. Is it a fact Mr. Deputy Speak\'r Sir. the hon. Minister that maps and other documents seized from has said in his stat~ment as also in his AVARD and its closely connected organisa answers to the many questions that an tioDS were returned to the organisations by ~rson or orga~j~a.tion found iDdUJsin= the then Government in power during In barnlful actiVIties against the security 1977-78 and, if why were the culprits who of count~~ would be dealt with firmly under acted treacherously against the security of the provISIons of law. In that very statement the State not brought to book? tb~ ~on. Minister has said that the Com miSSion had asked for an expert opinion of Secondly, why has the Government not th: . Survey of India and the Defence taken any steps to conduct a search and MInistry on the importance and nature seizure of documents aod why have the or tbe maps published in these publicdtioDS passports of the office-bearers of these The Survey of India has expressed the vje~ Ofaaaisationa who are involved in such tbat some of th,e maps were of restricted . a.U~natjonal ofi'.:nce not been seized 7 And areas, for which prior approval from tbe ., j. the Government not JauDchiol office of the Surveyor Oeneral ot India .:...... ,.. proceedings alainst them? and tbe ~efence Ministry was oeeessary I.would like .to know whether ~his does not iSH III S,D. CHAVAN: About the VIolate Sections 3 and 5 of tbe OfBciaf: Sc(;rets Act and jf 10. why action w...... iafOftrlation which tbe hOD. Member bas taken 1110 motu? CaUIng· ;b~"'1nn ,10 Urgent Public Matts, 0/ lmportanc. The 'ccmmission', report \\as verified and the institutions connected with it are (rom the Defence Ministry and tbe Survey the agents of CIA. They work as agents 01 of India. They were of the dcfini te view foreign countries which are hostile to India. that the maps were of tbe restricted areas They do not work directly but tbrougb and there was need for prior permission certain international institutions. In tbie befote drawing the maps, but this require connection •. the Asia Foundation and ment was not complied with why did aoother West German institution has been. Government' not initiate action ~uo m91u and mentioned. They get money through them. what arc the reasons for delay 1 They purchase their publica tions. Tho people of our countr, have been apprehen Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, thicl matter did sive in tbis regard for quite a long time. Dot come to light as a result of issuing of Funds have been misutiJised, oig people are tbe Notice by the Kudal Commission only. involved and an enquiry is goins on to As tbe preceding speaker hoo. Shri Indrajit look into several aspects of the case. I do Gupta has said this case has been going on not want to say anything in this rClard. (or many years. It was raised during tbe I would like to say only this much that it is Fifth Lot Sabha also. Shri Sbashi Bhushan a matter of our country's security. Tho had raised this matter at that time. The maps have been prepared of border areas, matter had been enquired into and Jater coastal areas which are restricted areas and it was handed over to the CBI. Some maps where photography or 'survey is strictJy were also seized during the raids. Will tbe prohibited and these maps have been sent outside the country. Deputy Speaker, hon. Minister confirm whether my informa I\-lr. tion is correct or not? This matter was Sir, 1 fail to understand one thing why tbe again raised before tbe Shah Commission AVARD and other institutions selected only border areas and coastal areas for in 1977. The Commission Summoned Shri rural development '1 They did not seJect Shashi Bhushan to depose. But the most the backward rural areas of U.P., Madbya unfortunate part of it was that instead of Pradesh or Rajasthan. These are many initiating action in the larger intel(~sts of the security of the country, the Janata backward rural areas in the country which' they could have selected but they selected Party Government s topped further action the coastal areas contiguous to Burma and on 'he matter that was raised during the China. Why had they selected only such Fifth Lok Sabha and on which action was areas '1 That creates a doubt in our being taken by way o( instituting an mind that something is wrong at tbe enquiry and even maps were seized. They bottom.· Shri Agarwal was right in rtayiol not only stopped further enquiry but that there are many people who have a even returned back the maps to those doubt that the chaotic atmosphere created institutions. The maps which were prepared in 1974-75 in the country which gave birth to . were returned by tbem. Thus a serious unfortunate conditions was the h .. ndjwork lapse was committed in the matter of tbe of these institutions. At that time. volun security of the country. I have already teers of the Gandhi Peace Foundation used submitted that things were being enquired to spread an atmosphere of chaos and Into and Government had taken some hatred against Government in Gujarat and action in this' relard Jlod had seized some Bihar. All tbese activities were beiDI maps 8lao. I wou~d like to know from the carried on in a we1l planned manner. After hOD. Mioister whether j t is a fact that that in 1977 the enquiry against them was later OD the Jaoata Party Government dropped and those maps were returned to returned those maps? Subsequently the them. It seems that aJi this was a reward Commission was appointed which is enquir for their activities in the past. I would 80 ina into tbe matter but we have nothing to to the extent of saying that in bringing tbe do with that. I do not 10 say want, anythina Janata Party to power, these institutioD" about tbe eoquiry which· is going 00. The played the biggest role. I am not sa~iDI enquiry is not confined to the maps only; anything about Shri Jai Prakash NaraloJI. ' there are many matteT1 which are going I Iso do not doubt his inlen(ion. But t6 lbe e'nquired into. Many people in the cer~ain activities were going on ~~jnd tbe C"-lry have an apprebension' that the curtain. There cannot be two opInIons that _aD and tbe Galldhj Peace Foundation . . ~Qi/lng Att~"tlon to Matt" 01 MAy 8, i985 tJ",nt Pllhilc imporlan~ .~o6 these institutions were encashiog the name tbe statement they may again come to of Shri Jai Prakash Narain. They were power. They have again started doi08 the also encashi os Ma ha trna ' Gandhi '8 name same thing. What is happper.iog in Oujarat through the Gandhi Peace Foundation. In shouJd be enquired ioto. The same institu. tions are behind the activities of Shvi SeDa tbeir museum library they have still Godse's in Maharashtra. These instituti()ns bave book. Prof. Madhu Dandavate, Nathuram put in their resources and volunteers and Godse's book bas still been kept in their t bese . people want to create tbe same situation. They waot to bring back again library. If you appreciate it, then I have tbe atmoshere of 1974-75. You will have nothing to say. to' pay attention to that and if you do not do tbat, Prof. Madhu Dandavate may PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: I occupys the sea 1 ) ou are occupying today. would like to know one thing-we have Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. their activities one hundred per cent difference with are very dangerous. The Kudal Commission Hitler's Fasci~m but his book is lying in is enquiring into these activities. If you Parliament Library. Does that mean that want for action till the Commis~ion's we support him? report is submitted, you will never be abJe to take action. I do Dot insist upon action SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : Hith:r did OD other things but what prevents the not shoot Gandhi. We were against the Government from takina action against Britishers but they were not so barbaric those activities which relate to the prepara as to shoot Gandhi. Nathu Ram Godse tion of maDS of the prohibited areas? did sboot Gandhi. The ideology, the 1 want that the hon. Minister should take principle behind it fired the shot and in strict action in thIS matter. I do not want spite of all this, that book has been kept that the hon. Minister should say that we tbere-if you appreciate it" then I have are just now going to take action but this nothing to say. These ba..,e been the much I want that he should say th&t he activities of these insti tutions and you was going to take action, but I certainly should be thankful to lhem that because of want that strict action much be taken in them your Party came to power and you this rt"gard, keeping in view the interest of became a Minister. the nation and the security of the country. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I With these words I conclude and hope have been elected five times as Member of that the hon. Minister will reply to the Lok Sabba. I have not come here because points which I &ave raised during my of someone's pity but by serving tbe speech. people. SHRI S.B._ CHAVAN: Mr. Deputy SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: By the Speaker. Sir, there is truth in the assertions Irace of God, you may be ejected even ten made by the hon. Member, tbat certain times. We have 00 objection to that but at elements in the country are working to that time you came to power because of create conditions of destabilisation here. these people. Otherwise you would never There is 00 such information available with' have come to power. Once you could form me at the moment, whether there is any the Government but in future, you are link or not between all these incidents never going to get such a chance. which have occurred but it creates a doubt in the mind that some people at different PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That places seem to be interested in bringing was because of you and the emergency. about destabiJisation in this country and Otherwise we would not have come to they are doing their work in their own ways' power in our whole life. At that time we to start tbere incidents. came to power because of you. It is also true tbat the enquiry whioll SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: If such · was loing on was dropped by them in 1971 tbings are happening as have been but as to whether the maps which W mentioned by the bon. Minister today in been seized from them have been retur",:, elllll", !fItentloll '0 VAISAItHA 18. 1907 (SAK'..4) Urg'nl Public 302 Maller 0/ Importance or Dot, I have DO authentic information dcfence maps and other data which we aDd I shall give special attention towards have developed, whatever we have developed tbis .'pect. If it is true tha t the whole and achieved in this fieJd have alJ been material which had come into Government's given to the USA. When Mr. Venkatara. possession was returned a fter the closure man was the then Defence Minister. he of tbe enquiry, then we have to check the said on the floor of this House that he mat-ter deeply and find out tbe persons who would try his best to bring back tbose e arc involved in this work and also see what scientists. But he had failed. So, what is action could be taken against them but worrying me is that actually most of the regarding instituting cases, it will not be foreign agencies are very much interested proper to start criminal proceedings unle.ss in our affairs. This fact has been brouaht some incriminating Droof is found out. In to your norice and the notice of the earJier the beginning I bad said that we are looking Government also- I do not hold any brief into the activities of two or three agencies for the Janata Government's failure and and if we feel that there is a prima facie their activities. But the fact remains tbat case, we shall do the needful. The Kudal they had not withdrawn the cases. They Commission has observed that there seems should have proceeded with the cases. Tbe to be a violation of the Official Secrets Act, Kudal Commission had been set up in 1982 we shall have to live them a chance to the and now it is 1985 and this Government person concerned to say what they want to came into being in 1980, Shrima ti Indira say. They have been served with 'show Gandhi's Government came into being in cause' Dotices. We will go through their 1980 and that Government took two years reply and if Government feels that there is to set up this Commission and since the' a prima facie case and a stage has COOle to Commi§sion was set already three years' talee action against them, I assure the have passed. So, I would like to know' House that we shall take action without any from the Government whether an enquiry laxity in the rna tter. woulrl be done very quickly so that im mediate action can be taken against them.' [Eng/Ish] The Kudal Commission has submitted its report. I would like to know what aetioD SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBBY tbe Government has taken on tha t report. C (Midnapore): Ali our Home Minister has He has not agreed to start suo motu cases stated, the Government also think~ that against them. H~ has not agreed. I do ·not· these various agencies are working in our know why there is su.:h a delay in such country in ways which arc endangering our important matters. So far as defence i,' whole security. As Basher saheb just now concerned. everyone has expressed concern. told U8, Government has taken a long, I do not know whether they are concerned loog time. It is a case startingfrom 1975 or not, but everyone has expressed concern onwards and now we are in 1985. Shri for the couDtry's defence. I submit tbat Basher saheb bas a correct grievance. The very influential, important and resourceful Janata Party regime did not proceed with persons mu.,t be behind the scene so tbat tbe case; they wi thdrew the case. Our C the-y have been able to keep away them Home; Minister does Dot even know whe selves from the Government '8 pressure. ther the materials (which Government seized for starting the case) \\ere returned to the authorities a gaiDst whom the cases Sir, tbe Government takes drastic:· atarted but later on they were dropped. Our action when the question of working clas. country is under pressure. no doubt. We movements comes. The Government talces have been surrounded. Only yesterday. action when the peasants' movements to tbere was a discu9sion in the Rajya Sabba get their demands accepted are there. Nowlt that some of our own scientists-they were Sir, I would like to' know the publisbenr not scientists in tbe Janata Government and tbe place where tbe books were printed • . pe.riod, but they are the scientists of this I do Dot want to know the names of tbe Government-in the Defence Department authors. I would on]y like to know where who 'were workio, on tbe radar system, tbese materials were printed and whether.. ".lipped aw,ay and tbey bave Joft for the Government has any in formation on' \1 • .4. aod aU our defeace materi.1s aad CoUllf, AIt.ntfon to Matler 0/ MAY _.,1,.' Urgent Public Im)o"'Q~ 30• 303 .. that. What were tbe number of maps Firstly. I would like to know whether pri'Dted a ad wbere are those maps DOW? the Minister is aware that a numbe'r or these people were trying tbere belt Dot t'O' AN HON. MEMBER: Tbey are cooperate with the Kudal Commission. outside. Apart from other things. there was a btl debate inside the Indian section of Amnesty SHRt NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Yes. IDternational. The lodian section of Amnest, tbey are outside. Now su~h b-:ing the case, IDternatjon~1 bas now been captured by I would like to know whether the Govern- the AVARD people virtuaJly throwinl out . meot can immediately sta rt cases against tbe other section from the office bearersbip. tbe press and such persons who are very who were Dot of the same opinion aD tbls influential. I am sure they are not so question. Is the Minister aware of it? I important when the question of country's would also like to know whether it is • security comes. fact that the Amnesty International which seems to have close connection also with CIA published unauthorished maps of SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: One book was India in their annual report in 1983 where printed in India by Bhupinder Sagar the Customs had put a stamp jndicatioa Printers and Publishers, Kotla Mubharak that the external boundaries of India as pur, New Delhi. Another book which is 0,) depicted in the map are neither correct nor' rural development plan in selected blocks authentic. Despite that the Amnesty Inter in Nagaland is printed by Bhupinder Sagar national report of 1984 has the same map at Sa,ar Printers and Publishers, 1880, again. In this map par·t of the Indian Udai ChaDd Marg, Kotla Mubharakpur, territory from Kashmir ha~ been gifted to New Delhi. So, both of them are printed Pakistan and China. Is it not a violation in New Delhi. These are the printers who of the established law of the land 1 bave published and t his came to the notice Secondly, I would like to know whether tbe of the Kudal Commission ooly in 1984. Government are aware that the interna After it was brought to their notice, they tional connections are not only wirh tbe referre~ Surveyor of it to the General India German organisation, which has been and tbe Ministry of Defence and the reply referred to, but it has much deeper inter was received in D:cember 1984, January national connections, and this map h ••. 1985. After the reply was s·ent to them, the not only all tbose tbiogs referred to ill your Itudal Commission referred the matter to reply, but various other thinss. Has the .Rud.·) IB in Febuary 85 and now it is with Commission gone into it ? If not, is tbe Government; IB, CBI and other agencies Government going into it 6UO motu? Funher. consulted are going to be in the matter. If are tbe Government aware that in the we come to the conclusion afrer lottiDg name of some sikh students orlJaoisatioD of tbe report aDd the explanation to show UK, th~~e has becn an appeal to Amnesty cause notice under Section SB of tbe InternatloDal asking them to help Satw8Dt B~quiries Act is~ued by Kudal Commission, Singh, who is the alleged killer of our Jate tbat tbere is a prima facie case to proce~d Prime Minister. so that be caD be protected. alain't some of the parties concerned, They also want protection for the perSOD certainly I can assure you that howsoever who. killed the Nirankari Baba. They are inftuential person may be involved, sceltlog heJp from this Amnesty Interna "Government will definitely take very tiona] and tbey want to kDow whether .triDgeDt action jf it is established under these people could be protected. Now, tbe law. these are not, in my opinion isoJatocl thiDSS. The AVARD »Coole captured SHRIMATI' OESTA MUKHERJEE bav~ the Amnesty I.oternational's Indian Section.. (PaDlkura) : I apologise, I was not bere I would like to know whether GoveromcDt when I was called, becau~e I had an appointment with the Prime Minister. i. aware of this di·meosion of the prdblenr 88 we1l and if so. what steps are bejD, Since many of the questions have taken by the Government to prevent _. already been posed, I would not cover the aame ground; I would go to the other ti·nd of CIA~covered oralDilatioftl de. points. kiDds of tbiol. with our maps. wbli )~;W , .", ~.~,... to .~ VAISAtatAl'~ 1906 (S.t4KA) MatteI". Under Rule 317 306 "/ {/lpnl hbllc 11IfIO"."" . OO'Yerllment doio. to COD'oect t~e like and very limited question was raised about take stern actioD on this questloD ? publishing and circulation of maps about restricted areas. Abo ut the rest of the thiDI. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: It will be very I cannot possibly at this stage say anything. difficult for me to immediately react to WHat the bon. member has said just now SHRIMATI OEETA MUKHERJEE: rq.td'i0l one of the maps of India, Dot Will you kindly inquire into it ? authenticated, but still published by 'lome organisation of Amnesty International. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN; Certainly, I Certainly, I will have to look into it. I will inquire j Dto it. cannot immediately say as to what action is tat'c'D or what inquiries have been conduc MR. DBPITY'SPEAKER We now ted in the matte.r or at what stage the take up matter under rule 377. ease is. ----_ Regarding tbe second aspect. it is a (act that some of the peopJe to whom notices "Ncre sent by the Kudal Commission MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 to explain their position by appearioM before the Commission have not been [Translation] ¢ooperating. Or the other hand. it has come to Government's notice that in a large (I) Need to constitute a CommIssion and bumber of cases, wri t peti lions have been take other effective steps to grievaoces filed by some interested parties either in of small region al newspapers the Higb Court or in the Supremt; Court and in some cases, they have also succ'eeded SHRI K.N. PRADHAN (Bhopal) : Sir, in letting in stay (lrder. That is why orders I would take to raise the following matter are being delayed and in a large number of under Rule 377. cases, we cannot proceed further, merely beacuse there is a stay order either by the The condition of smalJ newspapers in Supreme Court or by the High Court. I am our' country is contiuniously becoming not sure as to whether it is the High Court miserable. The Centra I Governmcn t 's adver.. or the Supreme Court, but the court order tiselllent and newsprilllS quota allocation is there which had stayed the proceedings. policy has not bc~n a blc to protect the That is why it bad taken considera hIe time interests of the sma JJ neW'ipapers. The for the KudaJ Commission also. These existing procedure of D.A.V.P. for getting are the procedures which I do not think adverstisement and newsprint quota is very we can circumvent and find some kind of complex and cumbersome. .. sbort cut to file cases against people. B\lt, after the whole thing is completed and The circulation of small newspapers in ••. I have said earlier, if we find that there our country' is many times more than that il enouab evidence available to charge-sheet of the large and medium newspapers aod people who are indulgi~g in this kind of the small newspapers have made ~pecial BRti·national activities, we will certainly contribution in refI.:cting particularly the take action. developments 1 activities in rura I areas. S'RR1MATI OBSTA MUKHE.RJEB : To make the small newspapers self Whet you have stated here makes it pro reliant and help them in playing their wa1)',t clear to everybody that some tbing special rule in the development of the I8s beeb really estabUshed. You said: 'It country. it is nece8sary tha t :- Ii ."",..f«IG os tabU s bed. ' I. A separate conlmission may be con.. , ~1tr S.B. CHAVAN: I have said stituted for the small newspapers. .., '.~~!J' ~(Uc'u)ar :rns'ps an~ not. of other. ~ _: Wliit I bltve said relates ooly to 2. The small newspapers should be _. CalUns' Attention Motion ill ~biQfa a separated from t·he medium ~ews .. paper. and tho question of aJlocatJQD 307 Matte" Under Rule 317 MAY 8; Ita, ""'t., U".,· RllII 377· of advertisemen t and newsprint to holy Romdhull 8unl in the temples or quota should be considered Ayodbya. Except in Ayodbya. bd,io sel'ara tely. Stations are functioniog at all otber: religious places like Kashi. Prayag and 3. At the time of considering the adver Mathura. tisement ra tes, the production cost along with circulation should also I request government to take steps to be taken into consjderation. set up a Radio Station in Ayodhya (U.P.)" 4. To make . the services of the news agencies available to the small [English) language newspapers at lower rates, Government should provide ade· (Iv) Need for a new railway line to link quate facilities and proper grants to Cbamrajnagar MettupalyalD the language news agencies. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD [English] (Chamarajanagar) : A survey made by the experts to link Chamarajnagar with (II) Need to initiate necessary measures to Mettupalayam indicated that there is plain stop unauthorised reproduction of land in the midst of BilJigiri and Ntlgiri books of Indian authors in Bangladesh ranges between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. where tunnels need not by constructed, as SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE there is no ghat section in between. There (Panskura) : Though the Indian Copyright is also a 200-years old road constructed by Act. with the latest amendments in ]983 Tippu Sultan. and 1984 is in operation, it is reported that \ a Dumber of books written by Bengali The proposed new railway line between writers in India are being reproduced in Chamarajanagar and Mettupalayam would BangJadesh without any reference to the link North and South, as an alternative to writers. In fact, this piracy has become a the only existir.g route via Jalarpet. Now. thing of concern for many of the esta b . the trafiic-both goods and passenger-has lished and newly-emerging Bengali writers, increased 1.66 times than the previous as well as the publishers of their works. capacity. In tbe event of national caJamities. there is a fear that the movement of I request the Minister of Education to passengers, food and other necessary promptly initiate necessary measures to commodities would come to a grinding stop this piracy; and for that, invite sug halt. lestions from the Bengali writers and publishers on the subject. By the proposed link, the distance to North from South will be reduced by [Trans/atloll1 about 250 Kms. The distance to Bombay and upwards will also be reduced by over (iiI) Need to iustal a Radio Transumilter 200 Kms. From Coimbatore, tbe distance 10 Ayodbya, Uttar Pradesb betweelJ Bongalore via Mysore-cbamaraja nagar-Mettupalayam will be reduced (rom SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI (Paizabad): the present 425 Kms. to just 300 Krns. Mr. Deputy Speakers. Sir, I would lIke to raise the following matter under Rule 377 : The Kerala-D.;:lhi Express between "Ayodhya besides being a place of Trivaodrum and Delhi can be diverted pilgrimage. is a centre of tbe Awadhi through Coimbatore. Mettup,alayam. language. Por qui ~e a long time tbe Chamarajaoagar, Mysore. Bangalore aad need for setting a radio station in Guntakal (after conversion to broad laule) Ayodhl'a is being felt in order to pro .. 'when the proposed ra ilway line comes to mote the use of Awadhj language and reality. Of course. the proposed rail routo to live it its due place and to enable would also facilitate the tourists. to '9. '0 the religious minded persons livins in encban tio.8 summer resorts of the S~l't " areas adjacent to Ayodhya to listen like Ooty. ,,' , I hope tbe Minister will take up tbe among the employees of the Regional Office. wodt of this missing link. The families of these employees are in grea t anguisb because. of the necessity to (.) Need to up,rade tbe Kbanpur Ablr Flail have their (ami lies at two places on account Station in Rajasthan as full-fledged of children's education. This has allo Rallwa, Station crea ted an adverse effect among the people of Tamil Nadu as they apprehend that tbe SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADA V (Alwar) : exploratory efforts in Cauvery Basin and in Sir. Khanpur Abir. district AJwar, Rajasthan Palk Straits are going to be given up. rhis is a Flag Station on the metre gauge wiJl give fillip to the fissiparous tendencies railway line between Rewarj and Alwar. At in the State, affecting Jaw and order. prescnt, only shuttle trains ha\'e their It is suggested that the Regional Office stoppages at Kbanpur Ahir halt station. of ONGC should continue to be located Railway is tbe only means of conveyance at Madras in the jnterest of economic and transporta tion in tha t area. Passengers development of TamBnadu and in tbe boarding in trains at Khanpur Abir are interest of 1200 employees. generally in large numbers. As there are two shuttle trains only. i.e. one in the (viI) Need to publish Gurudev Tagore'. morning and another in the evening, if a passenger misses the shuttle train in the works in all regional languages to morning, he has to wai t tal evening for the promote national integration arrival of the next shuttle. PasseJJgers have to go to Alwar for their urgent routine SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI works, as Alwar town is a district head (Howrah) : Today, the 8th May 1985, is the quarter. Passengers have also come to, and b:rth day of Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore, go from DeJhi which is only 130 Kilometres It is a great moment for every Indian to from Khanpur Ahir. remember his unfathomable contributiong for over all development of buman values, In view or· the above-mentioned ecological balance between nature and man difficulties of the genera1 public of that area, and concept of truth. non .. violence and I urge upon the Minister of Railways that love and affection for the mankind. Khanpur Ahir Flag Station lDay be Ourudev's National Song explains how upgraded as a fuJJfl-edged railway station. sincerely he used to think of a united India and he began this song mentioning (vi) Need to review the decision to disband the revoJution_ary soil of Punjab-"Punjab Sindh Gujarat Maratha ..• " His tribute to tbe ONGC Regional Office at the Sikh religion 9 Guru Nanak Dev, Guru Madras Ramdas, Guru Goviod Singh and his honour for Panchnad (five riverssi) welJ preserved SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishna in his literature and in his correspondence. giri): The Regional Office of Oil and His condemnation of JaJianwalabagb Natural Commission at Madras has Gas massacre was the strongest and he returned b.ecD incharge of the e"plor~tion efforl~ LJ the title of "SIRu conferred on him by the Cauvery Basin and Palk Straits. Th~re are British. nearly 1200 employees and officers in this office a t Madras. The Emp loyees Cooperative Tagore honoured Mohandas Karam.. Society bas even acquired land for the chand Gandhi as Mahatmaji and be construction of houses at Madras. The dedicated his "Tasher Des" to Nctaj;. ONGC is fully aware of the assessment of Tagore's concept of Hindu .. Muslim unity aDd Russian Oil experts that Cauvery Basin and his story of "Kabuliwala" emphasised tha. tbe Palk Straits are floating on oil and the religion or caste cannot be barriers to Ipve exploration efforts should by jntensified and &fi"ection. A Pathan Muslim can lovo with foredln rias, so that commercia I a Brahmin girl like his owo daughter. expJohatioD caD by started. His writings against untouchabiUty. Like a bolt from tbe blue, tbe Regiona J his concept of Upanished and Dramba OfIce ·of O.N:~G.C. at M'adra"s i8 beina religion provided new direction to Indlao ."8d~ ClusiBi distrels . and disturbance philosophy in its search for truth. Tagore was a movement of buman. reveaJs the substandard quality· of, theae soul in every direction for construction, grains which the peoph~ of C.r Ni,9b.r regeneration and revaluation. In tbis hour are fed with. Here the people have no of crisis in our country. Taaor.ets ideals option except to depned upon thi., sub and his teachings based on bis literature, standard grains because in tb.;se Islands songs and other works can provide a new there is no cultivation' of food_ra'lns other strength to our concept of unity in than coconut, etc. The rice and wheat diversity. supplied to tbe people of Car Nicobar is full of stones, soil, sand and worms. II Therefore, the' Ministries of Culture even tbe meagre quanti ry of S ka. rice and Education both are requested to publish supplied is of such a bad quality one e~o all I he w :,rk~ ~)f Tagore in all regiona I inlagine the plight of the people of th.e languages a t the cheapest possible price Islands. to make it available to the younger generation so that they can understand As far as supply of other essential com· modities is concerned people of Car that th(fC wr::; it n1:ln who was above all Nicobar have to de!)cnd upnn the E. H.L. th~ b~rri,:.:rs ef CLf.stC, community or religion, t he sole authorised arency to do the busi who tn,)k \.:.r-Hli"": Ir;dia to his soul and 'dreamt of India of every Ulan, every ness and t h!s age ncy ve ry often fa ils to religion who can coexist through a bond provide things tim~ly and regularly. Und~r these circumstance'; there is always an of live, afr;~ct!on and brotherhood. 3CUt~ scarcity of almost all items of llind lJ, 1\1 '...IS I j dl. Si:~ h, Chri~ 1 ia 0, essential commodities in Car Ni..:obar. BudJhist-a!l w,: rc glorified by Tagore in Mifk, vegetables, meat, eggs which are his writings ,\ ';j ulfmlt:..:ly aU b:?c1mc one esscntia' to keep one's hea Ith norma) are flower (hut is lnelia. not at all available in the~e Islands. Besides these Islands nre malaria infested area. Toduy we 5alu~c Tagore for his 'vision, Non-ava ilubi Ii ty of nutri tious food reduces for his cont~ibuti'Jn aod for his work that the resistance of ,he people to Malaria. will be a torch for all of us to illumine our p:lth. If W~ are disrupted and threa In view of this bad condition nobody tened and nobody responds to our call let wants to come over to Car Nicobar to us recite with Tagore :- work. I, therefore. urge upon the Govern ment to take inlmediate steps to improve "Jadi Tor Dak Slzune Kauu Na Ase the qua Ii ty and supply of essential food Tube Akla Cha/lo Re . . " grains, vegetables, milk, etc. in Car Nicobar so ~hal peopJe are enthused to go over The Prime Minister of India. who is there for settlement. trying his best to preserve the unity of the ,country and to find solution to the Punjab [Translatlon1 issue, will definitely get further strength from Tagore-we hope. (Ix) Need to exempt marble frOID tbe lef, ' of excise duty wblcb bas ...ulte~ Ia.. (viii) Need to take steps for regoJar cloSl;lre 01 small Dla.rb1e u"lt~. o! supply of improved quality of aaJasth,aaD essential comllldities in Car Nicobar PROP. NIR~ALA Kt)MARI BHAKTA SI-IRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA (Vishnu WA,,! (Chittoraarh): M,r. D,opu;fy Speak.". pur): People from mainla od workers, Sirt Under Rule 377. I would Hke to dra",. employees and labourers-leaving their tbo attention of tbe. hone FiDaQ~ Mhlia.r, native place, relatives and fdends go to to . the closure of aJl small Icalo mar,-,le Andmans in re~\ponsc to the appeal of the unit. ,in .R.aJastba,ll due to incrcaae in excise. Oovernment and settle there under difficult duty on marble a~d tb~ re~4efi,D8. of, 'I\,S~ condi.tions. I have recently received sample Jakh workers as jobless as a result thereof. packets of rice and wheat supptied by the Supply Department of And~ma~(, and ,~JA.tl~q~·:~4,~r.; to ,5K),;per eont" ot, ....1 Nlcobar AdmJnistration. Tbe ~~,~PI~' d!m!ecJ~ ;Iw.- : 'l!rJIJ.'~ 'UJ •. l"'"CiI\lDtW~: ~ Finan" BtU, 19.' ... abc.wt 2.200 ...all-scale rna'cblo unit •• 13.35 bn . W~j'•• ,bla~t. yellow, chocolato and piak "$Qtl ar,e cui and polisbed tbere. Real FINANCE BILL, 1985 ....:llJe consists of only 20 per ceot where .~. clloco,la.t~. yc)Jow, pink aad black lE"giish] "'J:blel. are harel stones, we can call it litnQ.lone also. Tbese small scale units have MR. DUPETY·SPEAKER: Now. \YO ,Ijven, it the Dame of InarbJe in order to take up Finance BiJi for conside ation au4 iQcrea$c its market price. passing. 12 hours have been allotted (or aU the three stages of (he Bill. If tbe MOtaM This industry has just come into exis agrees. we may have 9 hours general dis. tence. Many educated young men have cussion, 2 hours cJause by clause consider... co'ercd it and have starled runoina it afler lion and one hour for third reading of the expc'rienciog many difficulties. They are BIll. Dot in a position to repay the loans taken by',. tbem from many financia I institutions. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND Some of the small units have 9S per cent COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH single diamond wheel. In some units a PRATAP SINGH) : f beg to move: person has engaged aU the members of his family and is selliog his days produce daily. "That the Bill to give effect to the The entire fomily is earning its livelihood financial proposal's of the Centra) by wor.king day and night. Some of the Government for the financial year units were engaged iu the manufacture of 1985~86t be taken into considera small marble tiles afler purchasing the t ion." waste material which is a va ilable after the Sir, the salient features of the main c~ttjn8 of the marble. proposals in the Finance Bill have been explained in my Budget speech. The details All tbe small units heve been lying of the proposals in the Bill have beeD set closed since 17th March due to levy of out in the Explana tory Memorandum cir, excise duty on marble. One and a half cufated along with the Budget papers. I lalcb workers have been rendered jobless. would. therefore, not like to take the time These units have been closed in my of the House by covering the same ground constituency Chittorgarh and in the adjacent again. areas of Kankroli and Nagaur. About ten During the general debate on the years ago. some educated young men were Budget. a number of hon. Members mado attracted towards this industry in valuable comments and suggestions on th~ Chittorgarh. The work was undertaken after proposals in the Bill. I have also received obtaining loaqs from the financial institu a large number of suggestions from trad~ tions. Arter their closure, when I visited and industry. professional associations, _flat in~ustrial area in my constituency for economhts, tax experts and olhers. I would the first time. I found that the entire like to convey my gratitude to the hOD, j'odustrial activity tber: bad come to a Members, and to all others for their arinding halt. suggestions. I would. therefore, stroDgly urge the I have given careful thought to these Binancc Mioist,er to withdraw immediately suggestions. While it is nor possibJe to tbe excise ... duty levied on marble accept aJl these suggestions. I hav..: decide", ill order to save t.he marble industry to modUy some of the provisions in the' in Rajasthan, wbif;h is stilJ in its infancy. Bill in the light of these suggestions. 10 Government of Rajastban are also suffering proposinl' these modifications, I have tried~ a boavy. JOS8 of revenue in the form of to remove legitimate grievences to lila rQyalt, and salea lAX. Therefore the extent possib'e. I shall now briefly expJai~. OoverpDlCnt of R,ajl)&than have also the main changes proposed to be made ia demtD4ed the \Vithdra wa I of this excise 'he provisions in the Bill. dOt, .,on mathl.". I shall first take up the 'suggestio'_' ", .~ " , relating to tbe Budler proposals ia respect [Shi Visbwaoatb Pcatap SioSh) cottage sector from RI. 4.90 to R.I. 1.60~ of customs and excise duties. Hon. Mem In respect of cardboard matches produced bers will recall that during the reply to the by the oth~r sectors there was ei ther a General debate. I had a1ready announced slight reductiort or increase in the rates .. certain concessions iu respect of biris, and Tbe maximum duty' differential between the cottage sector and the mechanised certai~ items of leather machinery. Further, keeping in view the important role played sector thus went up (rom Rs. 1.70 to by tbe farmer who is the mainstay of our Rs. S.2S. I have had tbe matter reviewed. economy, I bad also given relief in respect In the interest of employment of this industry as a whole, some relier is also or agricultural implem~nt, specified poultry equipment and for medium power tractors warranted in respect of other seclors. I. upto 2S Horse Power. therefore, propose to revise the rate of duty to Rs. 3.50, it:>, 4.15 and Rs. S.85 per Having regard to the variou"t representa .. gross boxes as against the prevailing rates tions received I have decided to allow some of Rs. 4.50_ Rs. S.lS and Rs. 6.85 per relief in respect of some of the other levies. gross boxes respectively. These ra tes would In respect of pan mata/a some .doubts have apply for both cardboard and veneer been expressed by some hon. :'fembers as matches. to whether bett.!l nut preplrations like scented supari would attract dut y as Hon. M~mb:rs would recall that in my pan maJu/a in view of the Tariff d~scrjption. Budget proposals I had J iberalised the To put the matter beyond doubt, I propose scheme of small scale exempt ion for goods to exempt from excise duty all preplra tions falling under Item 68 by increasing tbe which do not include in it lime or CJ techu eligibility limit of Rs. 75 lakhs ao4 by or both, besides betel nuts. providing slab rates. The full exemption limit wc.lS~ however, fix:ed at Rs. 20 lakbs as A number of representations h:.lve also against the normal limit of Rs. 7.5 lakhs been received from the sm 111 SC:ll~ ml nu .. for specified goods. On consideration of Cacturers regarding the new l.!vy on m:.ll'ble. various representations received from the particularly that it would adversely atf~ct ~mall scale sector regarding this proposal. tbe interest of I h-!ir uni lS bei og conven tional I have decided to gi ve furt her re J ief to the technology. This being a labour inten~jve sma II units manufacturing goods falling industry and bearing in mind the large undl:r It\!rn 68. I propose to provide tbat Dumber employed, I have d.:cided to reduce units m:lnufacturing Item 68 goods would the duty on marble sla b" and ti les from PlY only 25 per cent of the duty payable Rs. 20 per sq. nletr;; to Rs. 10 per sq. for clea ranees in the ra nge of Rs. 20 lakhs metre. Also I propos~ to completely to Rs. 30 lakhs as against the earlier pro exempt fJ om excise duty, smaller UllitS posal of S3 p.!r cent payable up to Rs. 25 producing slabs and tiles using power upto lakhs and 75 per cent up to Rs. 40 lakhs. 10 H.P. As a measure of simplification, I further propose to introduce a scheme of These measures impJy a revenue loss of compounded levy for units producing Rs. 2.42 crores on the customs side and marble slabs wi tb tbe aid of conventional Rs. 14.5 crores on the excise side. gangsaws. As a measure of further relief to small I now turo to the proposals in the units, I propose to IiberaJise tbe small scale sphere of direct taxes. Under a provision exemption scheme for lyres, tubes and in the Bill, companies engaged in the flaps by e"tendieg the exemption to all business of growing and mlnufacturing tea t)'pes of tyres, tubes and flaps as well as by in India would be entitled to a deduction providing Cor SO per cent duty concession up·to 20 p!r cent of tb~jr profits deposited a.ainst the prevailing concession of 33.33 in a special accourtt with th! National per cent of the duty otberwise payable. Blnk for Agriculture and Rural Develop ~ also propose to fully exempt flaps of m~nt. I propose to extend the scope of tyres for two wheelers and three whee.lers. this COQc~ssion to non-corporate taxIOpayers as weJl, as it has been represented that in In my oriainal prop')sals I bad reduced certain parts of the cou.ntry, particularly in tbe duty for full Clrdbolrd mltch:s in the , be Soutb, tbere are sigaifican t number of. ~ . 317 FI,.,.,. BlII, .l9Bt VAISAICRA 18, 1907 (SAKA) Finane, Bill, 198' 3Jt small unincorporated enterprises eDIBled tbe fees paid by the taxpayer for profeS in ,tbe business of srowing and manufactur sional assistance in the preparation of the ioa tea and they should also aet the beneftt. return of income. Further, this provjsion will be made applicabJe to tea growers who have other The other amendments are of a con .. sequential or drafting nature and I would businesses also. not like to take the time of the House .in The BiU seeks to provide tbat exemp dealing with these amendments. tion from wealth-lax wilJ not be available' in respect of any properly forming part of It will be recalled that in order to have a business carried on by a charitable or the vie~s of the hon. Members, I bad put re1isious trust, except in cases where the forward a set of proposals regarding cor profits of the business are exempt from porate tax, whit:h could be introduced in a income-tax under section 11 of the Income phased manner in the next two years. It tax Act. The income of institutions and has been suggested to me tbat tbe time funds is exempt in many cases under avai1abJe for an ope~ debate on this issue section 10 of the Income-tax Act. It is hlS not been sufficiently long. As tbe logical and necessary that the net wealth Government proposes to com~ forward with of such in~titutions and funds, whose a long term fiscal policy later in the year, it income is exempt from income-tax, should may bl! better to announce tbJ Govl!rnment's be exempt from wealth-tax I propose to decision on this maHer at that time rather make this clarification. ttran during my reply to the deba te on the Finance Bill. Under the Bill, income-tax at the rate of 30 per cent has to be deducted a t source I now turn to an important new from income-tax by way of winlJings from measure for raising resources for the public lotteries. Since the maximum marginal rate sector. Government recognise~ the crucjal of personal income-tax has been rec1uced role played by the public sector in our to SO per cent and under section BOTT of economic d~velopment and the imperative the Income-tax Act, only 50 per cent of nee~ to provid~ addj tiona I resources for its lottery winnings in excess of Rs. 5,000 arc growth. Government proposes to introduce subject to income-tax, I propose to reduce a new scheme for floatation of bonds by the rate of deduction of tax at source in selected public sector undertakings in high such cases from 30 per cent to 25 per cen t. priority area", particularly telecommunica tions and power. These bonds, upto a The Bill provide that no deduction specified Jimit, will be issued by tbe sball be allowed, in the computation of designated public sector unJertakings. and taxable profits, in respect of fees paid by will carry an attractive rate of interest. In taxpayer jn connection with proceedings order to tap rural savings and avoid in under the Income-tax Act or any other convenience to those who may wish to subscribe these are oth~rwj8e matter arising out of tha tAct t I also to bonds. but propose to provide that no disallowance not taxable, there ~ill be no deduction to will be made under this provision unless tax a t source from the in terest which wUI tbe aggregate expenditure of the specified also be enli t led to exemption under section category for an assessment year exceeds 80L of the Income-tax Act. The value o'f Rs. 10.000. While liberalising the provision these bonds will also be exempt from in tbo Bill in this regard. I also propose w~ahh.tax, without any lim~(. Necessary t,o extend its scope to fee~ paid for legislative measures will follow in due advice in connectio:l with tax, penalty. course. interest or any other metcer under tbe 1 request tbe hon. Members toJeod their h~ome-tax Act. The Oov~rnment have support to the Finance BiU with the modi· decided thar returns filed by tax-payers fications I have proposed. with an income upto Rs. one lath wi JJ be accePted, wUh the minimum of formalities. M&. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Motioo 'Th,il, places areater responsibility on tbe oved : "al_paye,r &0, ,.~n$ure its completeness and accuracy of the' return. Rearins this in "That tbe BiJi to give eff¢ct to tbe financial proposa Is of tbe Central mind., 'J .•Ill Dot placi~1 any restriction on [,Mt. Doputy-Speaker] The GovernmeDt has come' to a coaclcWf6a Ooveroment for the H08Deiai year that tire morc tbe taxes that we htc"','~ 1985-86. be taken into considera tbe revenue it gOiDI tt; be h~~s. tho coa~ tion. " cea)meot of income will be more aud if will be counterproductive. This seems' to S'HRI C. MADHAV REDDI be tbe whole concept. Now, I strobl'f (Adilabad) : I welcome some of tbe reliefs refute this conc~' pt which the ecoDomiati aad concessions just now announced by the call tbe Laffer cUrve theory. because it bal bon. Minister. I would hav" liked that failed in all the countries wherever this hal these concessions to have been announced dr-lier so that we could hav~ an opportunity beeD adopted, and it bas failed in our mva io make certain comments. But anyway, country. t welcome. particularly the floating or bonds to heJp the public sector and to see Sir, a decade ago we had the direct t,x. tbat the public sector gets more allocations. the income-tax, up to a maximum of 97.5 per cent. We had tbe highest income-ta" Now, it would be possible for us when rate and this bad been reduced to 65 per we take up cJause-by-cJause consideration cent thiDkin, that this would create a better of tbe Bill to go into the merits of some of atmosphere and it would be possible tbat tbe concessions announced just now. the people who are concealiog incomes Presenlly, I would like to confine illY would come forward and pay the taxes. remarks to some general observations on Then we had reduced it to 60 per cent and the tax system. alain to S5 per cent. (1"ltrruptlom). And 13.41 brl. this year we reduced the income-tax m'axi ... mum rate to SO per 'cent and just DOW tbe [Shri Sharad Dighe ,in the Chair] Finance Minister said that tbe OovernllltPn:t is loing to have a fiscal policy and tb~re II Sir, as I had already spoken on the a proposal, though they may Dot aDnoullet General Budget debate, at that time I bad it now. but it has already been indicated ill pointed out certain loopholes in the Budget the Budget that they are goinl to reduce i't .,stem. The House is a ware of these to 45 per cent. The underlying prinCiple J, because we have been discussing this budget Iha t as you reduce this tax, it would be for about six weeks. Yet the full impact of possible for you to brio. out the cotlceated the Budget proposals and taxation proposals income and the revenue is 10iD, 10 be would be known only afler a time and this more. This is where we are maldD." il tbo time to make a propl!r analysis of mistake because we bave seen in tbe 1'**1 tile impact of the Budget proposa Is. that whenever we reduced the maximum t •• rate. tbe improvement was oot tbe", Our Budget has been praised in this because this theory. the Laffer cu,rve tb~(Jry. House by the Congress benches and outside dOes Dot work like the theory or dimfn.'.... ••atiD, lba't it has been epoch-mating in, returns io economic terms becadse ttrete Bud.,t, it is a structuralist Budget and the theory of diminishing rcturft9 o'perate's there had been a 'ot of thinking gone into on certain oa tural forces, but bere we are the ma,kinl of budgetary formulations. I do dealing with human beings. witb human Dot know wbether there was any thinlcina behaviour. Ptoplc io tbis country bad or _ lack or it, but one thing is very clear become used to 'this concealment of iadoata*, dlat it il not merely a book-keeper'. tax evasion. and DO amount of COD\JCIsfdb Bu4let. II is certainly an economist's ii lOins to improve the situation a'lId" fbt. Budlet. The proposals on the whole have bas been proved b,yood doubt becaui'b .. certain directions and the whole approach have been making this' ex~rcise' for .be Ib, rid the concep.tion of tbe Rudget is very 10 years with no resutts. Sir. I would • ., clear before u~. Notwithstanding certai:n fbis tbat neither you are bavia. 'tile '.dlH~ peripheral changes which have been aD tionat 'revenues by way of ta'Iei' Ddt': i.~" ,. Dounced by tbe Finance Minister just ,now, tAre in a position to .1.8 r.'''.' fd'" I would like to point out that this Budget people. I r~,memb: r. in Locto"" tM~ .•, : _. lot a definite ditectior:a. And that is, taft Bud,ct. The conception ,is v.er)' c.lear. llfi Ie,.. ", "'IIIr .. pf""~ ,."., .121 VAISAKHA 18, 1907 (SAKA) Finane, Bill. 1985, 322 [ Tra"l/alion] thiogs in the market, we are thrilled. W. see a number of tooth pastes available, a' You worked so hard but no solution variety of powders, varjety of cosmetic. and could be found. so on and so forth. My point is, these are essential no doubt, but Dot at this St8,O tbi' [Ene/Ish] is a stage when we have to curb the growtb ' My point is, that in this Budget and of consumer goods manufacturiog in this the tax proposals which are before us, country so that our scarce resources go to wbatevar changes have been made now, the desired line of investment. Our economy they will certainly help the private sector, is a t the stage where a Jot of stimulation is required, proper direction is required. I there is no doubt a bou t j t. There has been see that this particular direction which a lot of lobbying going OD for the Jast several ha. years that the Indian economy is very been taken by the Finance Min:stry is much controlled, there are a Jot of regula wrong. This pampering of private sector tions. lot of controls, high taxation and will not do. Ctrtainly ~e are gOiDg to so on and have no growth" The lobby was suffer because of this. so powerful that every time they were in a position to influence the Government and I know what bappened after the announ. to get concessions and enjoy the fruits. 1 cem~nt of this Budget. As I bas said the am sorry, the Finance Minister seems to other day when I was initiating the Debate have come under the influence of this type on the General Budget, it is Dot tbo com or theory that if you want growth, you go mOD man who is happy about the proposals on giving concessions to, the private sector. but it is only tbe rich who are happy. This is wrong. The argument that if there Immediately, within 4 days of announce are les4i taxes revenue, more income is with ment of the Budget-the Budget was pre the private sector, more funds will be sented on 16th of March and then by the available for growth in investment, is abso 21st of March-aU the shares of the major lutely wrong. Certainly growth may be companies in the stock exchanges have 800e possible. But then in what direction would up i ~ value. I have got a study which wi)) it be possible? Art this growth is in the indicate that this increase was from 10 to different direction. Public sector must have 250/0 withjn five days. I will mentiolil been making losses. But one thing is very them: clear th\t public sector is producing goods which are essential fol' the present day Share Value as on economy of the country. But private sectors is certainly not going to adhere to this 16-3-85 (Rs.) 21·3·85 principle. They are not bothered about the Total Steel 441 487 economic goals of our country. They are only bothered about their own profit. Telco 448 546 Today where are the profits? The Indian Institute of Applied Economic Research Tate Tea 70 89 has come out with a beautiful analysis of the consumer goods industry in this country. Richardsons 87 109 For the last several years, our industry has Colgate 197 244 been producing consumer goods in large number and this bas been generally neglec Ponds 108 117 ted by our policy .. markers. When we go and see huge quantity of various goods Reliance Textiles 139 165 which are available in the market, it is 120 140 amazing. The consumer goods or articles Food Specialities which come in the market in the foreign Glaxo 31 40 countries, f!urope or United States this year. the very next year you wi n have these Hind Levers 77 88 aoods manufactured in this country. You 58 .~,e the type of goods lhat we have today. Britannia 54 We have a number of varieties. You have Brooke lloa4 52 S9 , ,,'vet)' bif cbo~~. ",pon we ,0 an~ ae" tll~ MAY 8. 1.5 324 [lhri C. Madhav Reddj] Yet, the smuggling is going 00. I am really . surprised. When you smuggle the consumer 1f..... n. goods, it is a great loss to the economy. I know that some other 'goods are also The share value of tea estate which was being smuggled into. RI. 77 went up to 96. This was the market. It wa" of courle, a welcome thing because I am immediately reminded of the the economy is buoya nt. That means more smuggling of si licon chips, crores of rupees funds will be availabl., for investment. If sworth of silicon chips. Because it is a very tbat ia the argument, yes, certainJy it has small tbing, it is very easy to smuggle that to be encouraged. But then what is is product and th:!n it comes in millions of happening '1 Already there are plans for quantities. That silicon chip is an indus. the major manufacturers to go in for con trial raw material. Any smuggling is bad sumer goods and there is no check. I t is and it has to be checked. But when you because you have removed controls, you smuggle the industrial raw material or have removed tbe Jicensing system a Iso, when you smuggle the machinery or such liberalised several unics and they ore free other things into th~ country; or when yo u to. set up any type of industry and direct smuggle something which you can aga in tbe Government investments, tha tis, tbe smuggle it out, th~re is no harm though it public sector back investments, to undesi is very bad. rable Jines of maunfacture. Tnis has actually happened today. I know there h one country. I do not mention the name of the country because How are you going to remedy the it wi II embarras~ our Government. Which situation '1 What measures do you going is today embarking on the new neighbour to tee that the investments go to the hood diplomacy. But that country is desirable units? The consumer gor-us indus .. smuggling some pernicious product and try in India is such that today tha t the smuggling it out and the whole economy is top 200/0 of the people arc consuming 500/0 boosted because of the smuggling. That is of t:he industrial goods and the bottom opium. But when think of OUf country, we 500/0 of the people are consuming only 20'Yo are poor and we cannot afford to divert our of industrial goods. T( is fact is known to resources to Ihis type of nefarious trade of the manufacturers. They know whl) are smuggling of consumer goods but still it is their customers, Ytho are their u~ers and continuously being aHowed and it "is a sight how (0 meet their demand. The demand to see the goods in display wherever you for consumer goods is increasing very high. go. If the Finance Minisfer does Dot In this connection, I am also reminded of know, I would request him to ask his tbe smuggling of consumer goods which is wife. She knows it better. Every housewife aoiog OD. It is a very depJorable situation knows what is happening in the market and in this country, (he smuggling of consumer whero these saris are available. They are soods )ike saris, syntheti.,; fibre and synthe being sold, openly with impunity! 00 to tic textiles. A huge quantity of synthetic Bombay, Calcutta or any other place. textiles is smuggled into this country. It is EverybocJy knows about, the centres where estimated that about Rs. 1,000 crores worth they ar~ being sold; a very brisk business of saris which are used only in India nre goes on there. Why should you not curb being smuggled Into our country from this particular commodity from being im .. Japan, Taiwan. China and other countries. ported, (rom being smuggled into the They manufacture the saris and send them, country? There is a great need for curbing smugg1e them into India. What is it we the consumption of consumable goods-not are losin'l? Because of the smuggling, the only rnauufacture of them but also smua Government is losing about Rs. 600 crores gling of those goods. of tax revenue excise duty. In addition to this, it js ,cutting into the Jo~al demand Comins to tbe question of prices and because we have a lot of capacities for deficit financing, I am very happy that the: manufacture of saris and <;>ther synthetic AleC has taken n very serious note of ,thi. J,\, textiles. Our capacity is much more than ploblem. The AleC has also taken. ,'1_ , whet i, acrtuall), required for ou-'r c()untrr. ter,io,us Qote 9 f another pr.obl~lll' ,B~~/If~ .. I t ~ ~ ,,""1' Finane, iJill, J98' '~26 are afraid that Government is ta.king a 3,660/ ... Now what is the relief that tlr&y different direction; I am bappy that they have been given? Compared to tbe increase have made an announcement that they have in his budget t the relief that he is eojoyi·ll'I not given up the goat of socialism. They have is very little. What you are doing is, ,on said that the prices are going to be brought have laken them out of the tax-net aod down; they have said that action would be said that they have been given reUef. But taken against those people who are hoard .. ~ actuaJJy you have burdened them wirh iDS and blackmarkcting. But I do not think another Rs. 3.000/- per aonwn. This bas there is any such problem here; there is no affected his budget. Nobody can deny tbat. hoarding or blackmarketing; if there is The Budget has be~n criticised on thIS any such thing, certainly action could be account is several quarters. I need DO't taken. But the rcal point is that it dwell too much on that. I only wanted to is not hoarding or blackmarketing that is point out that these reliefs have done very responsible for increase in prices. The real little to him. reason for increase in prices is tbe policy of the Government as contained in their Another study reveals another aspect budgetary proposals, the indirect taxes the study on the tax reliefs given to various the increase in duty in respect of petroleum sections of the peopr~. As I said, theso and so on and so forth. During the genera) are peripheral reliefs, the reliefs whicb debate on the Budget, I had pointed this. have already been announced. On a taxable Now I have clenr picture. Ev~n though the income of Rs. 25.000, the reHef is 3.1 per wholesa Ie price increase was 01)1)' 2.3 per cent; on a taxable income of Rs. 40,000, cent or so immediately after the Budget, the relief is only 4.7 per cent. Foc a taxable the retail price increase is very much income of Rs. 60,000 the relief is 7.2%. higher. If you see the impact of this on the It is going on increasing. For a taxable midd Ie class people, you wi I! be surprised income of Rs. 1 laks, they will be getting how much the mjddle class people have to a relief of 10.4~0 and above Rs. 1 lath and spend t'xtra on conveyance and other things. upto Its. 5 lakhs they will be getting a I am talking of those people who constitute relief of Rs. 12.60/0' Who are going to gct about a miJlion of pf'ople b,~cause the these reliefs? It is very clear from this Finance Minister has said that about a study tha tit is only the big peopJe who million people have been taken out of the are enjoying the reliefs given by the tax-net; I am only talking of those people; Government and not the poor people. I am not talking of the people who are below that bacause according ~o tbe Finance Then coming to uncovered deficit and Minister, they do not exist, they do not inflation, they say it may be 7% but I feel pay any direct taxes. Of course, they are it is not going to be Jess than 10% whatever the worst hit people because the indirect they may say now. It wiJJ be going upto taxes hit th~m most-the ordinary people 10% bt:causc the deficit financing of the who are not assessees. Now I am talking order of Rs. 3349 crores is not going to of the assessres, the million assesseoes who stay there. Deficit finance will be mucb have been claimed to have been taken out more than that judging by the figures of of tbe tax-Det. Their position today is t1 ;:. last year. I estimate that it wi)} go up to On conveyance, travel, they have to pay n '\. Rs. 8000 crOfes, not less than that because . 150/· extra per month because of lhe Jast }'car our estjnla te was Rs. 1700 ccores increase in prices of petrol railways fares, but it went upto Rs. 3900 crores. If Y9U etc.; he has to pay Rs. SO every time when take that into account, I feel tbe uncovered he undertakes a travel which he does twice deficit will be much more. In tbis coonec or thrice a year. On vegetables he bas to tion I am reminded of the deficit fin8ncilll ~ay Rs. 2SI- more. 00 milk he has to pay of the Slates. Rs. lSI· more. On other household stores . 'be has to pay R.s. '20/· more, On domestic Day in and day out we hear on tile heJp he bas to pay another Rs. 20/... On floor of this House and aJso outsjde that 'rueJ, cooking .Sas, be has to pay a rother the States are not mana,inl their ecoQ~ ~~ 24/... Au these comes to Rs. 305/-; on well. that they are not very care'ful abwn ..··,:it" , ;' \' , . , • • i: av~~,.e th,is iJ the monthJy increase In the ,:ollection of taxes, about sa!i"l~ .~t" hit. budaet. . Per year it comes to Rs. I would like to point out tbat aU the St.tea Flna"e• .iJJli. 1985 (Sbri C. Madba v Reddi] 14 States wnich iodiclted th:!ir deticit tbls put together. tbe total deficit financing tbey yt: ... r, our State of Audhra Pradesh so far have indicated now is very little because has not indicated any deficit financing many States have not presented their this year. And overdraft position has to budaets so far, but- they have indicated these continue for some time because of certain flsures to tbe Gov~rDmeDt of India aDd Government of India's policies like adminis according to tbat, the total deficit financing tered prices. Of late I have been ~eeing that of all the S~ates put together is coming to Oov.;rnment of India instead 01 imposing around Rs. 1400 crores, Dot more than new taxes resorts to manipulation in admi. tbat. It is Dot even one-third of the deficit nistered pric;!s. Why this manipulation takes financing tbat we are embarking upon at place? B.!causc whatever additional income the Centre. administered priceq give you, [he States do not get anything out of that. - During the This brings me to the question of over. last six months the steel prices have been drafts. The States are being criticised day increased twice and the increase went up in and day out for the overdrafts position to 50 per cent. Tod.1Y the steel prices have and the Government have b~en very strict gone up by 150 per cent ov.:r th:.! last year's of late to curb overdrafts and the Reserve prices. Da you know what would b" the Bank is coming with a very heavy hand. impact of this on the States wh i .; I are They have put a restriction on this. Let emb3rking upon schemes like buildin:;; irriga" us examine what is this overdraft and why tion proj~c!s or other industrill prnj.!cts. it happens. The Central Govl!rnment has Th:! COlits of th.!1ie proJ!c(s hlS gone up lot tbe powers to resort to defici t tina nei ng terri bly _ Ad (u inis tert'd prices should not be but the State Government has no such increased without consulting th.:: State power. There are certain periods during gov~rnml!llts. When such a drastic st~p is which the States require funds more than l'eing tak~n, thlt i~. th-! pric.!~ of eH.!Iltial what they are able to raise or their balances commoJities are being rt!vised what prevents are and naturally the overdraft b-=~omes a you from ta king the 8ta tes into confidence. necessity. Ultimately the overdraft is You have JPC of th.,: steel nJllls but not a adjusted by themselves or adjusted becau~e single mln fro,n the Slatl! is there on it of certain loans given by th.! Central and also not a single man representing the Government. That is OK. The overdraft small scale industries is there on the Com position has come to exist in the present mitke. They consulc the Steel Ministry and economy of the country. Olherwis~, the revi'lc. the prices. Wha lever be the conse whole budgetary system, the whole financial qu~n;;t!S they are not bothered. structure of the States will be paralysed if you are going to put restrictions. We Lastly I would like to say th at the act revenues at certain times and collec, ions Finance Minister had said in the Budget at certain other times and the States' base and aJso several times on the Floor of the or taxation is reduced and they are working Hou5Ie that our revenue expenditure is under great stress. There are certain taxes increasing alarmingly. That means Central which we get only during certain period) while Government is living beyond its means. the expenditure is going on. The income Government is not in a position to meet is available only during certain periods tbe revenue expenditure. from the revenue but the expenditure is going on continuously. it receives which means we are eating into Durin, this period overdraft becomes our capjtal. What is it that we see in tbe necessary. Many other reasons are there budget ? Budget this year increased tbe for this overdraft. The main reason is that revenue expenditure by 23 per cent. I do the funds promised for the States do not not know how be is goioS to curb tbis reach them in time and there is a gap. revenue expenditure. Similarly, there are unforeseen difficulties, calamities, etc. and becau,e of that the Wh~n Lok Dal was in power for a sbort . State Governments have to spend money. p"riod, Chaudhuri Charan S!Dgb. set-up a The overdraft position should not be seen com,u.ssion to go into the expenditure ot with such a grea t concern because this tbe Ceotral Government. Immediately a(t" overdraft has come to exist and will con be Went a way the commissi\)o was dl" ,iaue. I am very happy to say that of tbe solved. How are you IOiul to reduce I_ I '.1' l'intJ"ce Bill, 1985 expenditure on tbe revenue account because in which they would wish the economy to unles, you curb this expenditure Yfhich is grow. The hon. Member Shri Madbav mOuDling day by day you will be having Reddy had some difficuity jn accepting tha,t very little for the capital expenditure. we are going to produc.: more consumer goods. At the same time he pointed out I think the revenue expenditure-the that consum~r goods are being smuggled expenditure of the Central Government into the country on a large scale. I think is like a VeT'y sacred cow and) am sorry the figure which he mentioned was about (or the Finance Minister that be has been Rs. 600 crores. Now, if we accept that driven by this sacred cow to a corner and there is a need in the country for such large this cow is running amuck. I do not know amount of consurner goods should we deQ), bow you are going to tame this cow. Tbis our people the opportunity to obtain is (or you to think. them from local manufacturers? EVOD countries with somewhat regimented econo SHRI DINESH SINGH (Pratapgarh): mic systems have permitted greater flow of Mr. ChaiJman, Sir, I am conscious of the consumer goods and I think that it is time, fact that I am intervening in this debate a frer 35 years or so of Independence, that at a time when the budget has had a life we should think in terms of bettering the of almost two months and that there has life of the people not mere Iy those who caD been nationaJ deba Ie on various aspects buy smuggled goods or those who can get of it. I am also sure that the Government them from outside, but also those living in bas had an OPP0rlunity to look at the the remote rural areas of this country who impact of this Budget on the national life should be enabled to purchase them after as a whole. Bu t I would wish to concen tra to! being manufacture(l in thls country and on a few aspects of this Budget and the made available on a large scale. fiscal measuics which are proposed by the Government. Th~ second point that I would wish to men I ion j, tha t t here is in this budget an This is not a run .. of.. the .. mi 11 budget. opportUIJ i l)' to dra w funds out of the finan The previous speaker Mr. Madhav Reddy cial institutions and to enabJe them to Jow has men liODed that .his budg~1 is an indi into smaller industries. It is an ofl'shoot of cator of Government's economic policies what I had said earlier, that is, the effort for the future. And as such, we welcome to frec industry of control by a few big this and the opportunity to discuss these business houses. I would say (hat despite measures not merely in the short term of the complaiuts which big business has made ODe year but its impact over a period of of restrictions on growth and on unneces time. And I am glad that the Finance sary regula lions, their own assets in the Minister has mentioned tha t there would last 3 years from 1980 to 1982 have doubled be an opportunity for an in-depth discussion in the case of 12 large houses and they on this at some . later time. The Budget have been trebled in the case of 8 large tbis time has a clear impact of the Prime houses; out of the particulars of 2S large Minister's own economic thinking and as industrial houses I have here with me. One such we must welcome tbe dynamic changes would notice that 20 of them have growQ tbat be has proposed to take the country more than double and f4)ur others have ioto tbe next century. There are two aJso registered remarkable increase. Ooly aspects in this connection whIch I would one of them has declined in its assets. But wish to biah1ight. the turn-ovc:r of all the 25 has gone up. Therefore, despi le the res friction, the Jarsa The first is that this budget had made bouses were growing. Anyhow the budget a determined effort to free industry in this now gives an opportunity for other smaller oountry from the clutches of big indust.rial houses also to grow. bouse•. By giviD. investibJe surpluses Iota the bands of tbe public the Government Now. I mention this because ther'" are bas a'vc'o an opportunity for the market certain novel features in this budget aod forces tOI,,'operate OD industry and at 1he bears the impact of the Prime Minister-. time aive opportunity to the p~ople. to ""'0 own tconomic thinking. It is essential tbAt indicate their preference and ~be dIrection , . MAY 8,1985 (Sbri Dinesb Sinab] Now, my appea') to the Pin_rice Minister is that these criticisms must be we must avoid pitfalls which could negate firmly replied to ilod the wrong impression the thrust of this budget. I think that despite that (hey are creating should be corrected. the fact tbn t GOVCfnme n t have tried to stress But the main thrust of criticism can reaJJy be the importance of socialist economy with met only jf we are able to control the rise our firm commitment to socialisrn and the in prices. This is important not merely in discussions that 4 his subject has had in th~ terms of purchasing power of the people latest A.I.C.C meeting held only a few but it is essential for a healthy growth or days back in this city, there hav~ been tbe econolny. I was in my constitnency a unjust criticisms, if I may say so, in some few da.)s back and I realised there bow sections of the press where exactly the tho impact of this budget has adversely opposite of Government's efforts has been affected the fdlmil1g community. The prices projected. I have the press cutting here of their own product had declined by 1.9 'from the newspaper "'The Telegraph" dated points of the wholesale price index for tbe lO-4-1985 where it has said in big bead 3·weeks ending on bth April 1985. While lines- those of non· food articles have gone up by 5.8 points and that of all commodities by "Capita lism has now become respect 6 5 points. The fuel, power, oil and lubri able" cant prices have shown a remarkable jump of 29.7 points. The other day ttJere was a and Mr. Rornesh Thapar says _. discussion in this House and the Minister for Food and Civil SuppJies admitted that "We are to intensify the build-up of the prkes have already gone up by 2.3% the two·nat:ons-in·one nalion model. in the four weeks ending 13th April, 1985. An inner na tion and an outer one. The retail prices, on the other hand, have One with a face. the other without. gone up further and I have to add the How else can one int~rpret the caution that has been mentioned by Shri prescn t budget ing, the bonanzas Madhav Reddy that unless these prices are included 1" seriously checked now, we could run into a two figure inflation. Now, in the same paper, writing a few days later, that is, on 14th April 1985, The rising cost of living, higher prices Mr. Ranjit Sau compares our budget with of fuel and inputs and failing prices of Mr. Reagan's economic ideas. He goes on agricultural produce could briog extreme to say like this. bard~hip to the overwhelming majority of our people living in the rural areas, parti U Reaganomics essentially means, we cu.larly the farmers and the small scale are told, a policy package of tax farmers. reduction across the board to stimulate work, saving, investment and risk taking: elimination of wage The Finance Minister bas aJready some the reliefs and price controls; and a steady and referred to of that he is predictably moderate growth of thinking for them and I welcome those as money in the economy." well as other reliefs that have been Indi· cated, but I must add that the rtJief tbat He further says- he has talked about is not adequate eoouan to have an impact OD rhe high cost of "Our economic czars a t New Delhi living that has now entered the lives of the seem to have borrowed a leaf from farmers and the poor people. I would be Reagan's book to make this year's failing in my duty if I do not mention to budget. They should take note of the Finance Minister that 'people 'are beginning to talk iu terms of lbis budpt the fact that President Reaga 11, who to the US gave .. ,he largest tax cut being only a re'cogni cion of the tai.te,'_' in history" in 1981, also pres'ded of some four mi'liion people in "tbis .COUft·.. r over ., the largest tax increase in instead of 780 millions that· inhabit :~.. history" a year later." land. ""I ~B11I, 1915 VAISAKHA I'~ 1907 (SAKA) FI"ance Bill, i 915 PROP. N.O. R.ANOA : Wbo are those lodustry, which despite many pdce ri.. people ? since natioDalisation, is sliIJ not economi cally viable. The question that comes to SHR.I DINBSH SINGH: 'Professor one's mind is why should people be Sahib is a profe,ssor and I do not have to punished for the mjsmanagement of certain teaeb him. Icey industries wbjch have been guided ·brr bureaucratic norms and bureaucratic This issue of rise in prices is not a management. It is time that in .tbe moder matter of mere supply and distribution. nisation that we are attempting, these mu,' The Pinance Minister has to give further be made into professiona I run organisations consideration to imposfs which have a cost re~ponding tO,the proftssionaHy requirements pusb and price rise effect on t he economy. of the ecoriomy. And Sir, may I remind Fu~1 is one of them. As I have mentioned. the Pi ance Minister that a socialist arowth of 29.7 points within lhree weeks is economy envisages public sector enterprises Dot a small matter. It atrects the lives of revenue givers and not revenue takers 7 all our people and the economic condition Therefore, there has to be a strict control in the country. by the Finance Minister over the funds and expenditure of the pub) ic sector eoter The second factor which we have to prises. bear in mind is the uncovered ga p of Rs. 3400 crores. Again. Shri Madhav Reddy One other aspect that I would wish to while speaking took the advantage of refer to in thi~ connection is ~he oationali mentioning it and I do not wish to give the salion of private sick mills. Tbis is caslin, impression that I am fol1owing his thinking; an avoidable burden on our economy. he spoke first, and it is my m;~fortune that When this Act was passed 10 take over I have to follow bim. This uncuvered sick mills, there was a cJear direct jon in lap would go up further 'if last year that mill~ once taken over will be recons is any guide to the effect of demand tituted and modernised to add to economic over our resources. I feel that the activity and not merely to draw on public Finance Minister must take a bold step resources. We have to be Quite clear tbat to bet up an Expenditure Commission by spendi ng money on there sick mi J ts. we which the Mathai Commission had rt'com· are rea Hy asking the public to pay for tho mended as early as the 50s. The Expendi .. sins of omissions and commissions of ture Commission could then given an priva te industry. There h no earthly reason indication to him how to control the at alJ why it should be necessary for us to growing Governmental expenditure and throw good money after bad. These should heavy demand on our revenue. Talki~g be reconstituted, even their product mi~ about revenue expenditure as stich, may changed and made into viable companie•• J point out that in the one decade preceed .. which can then be sold in the market an'd ina the revenue expenditure bas gone enable to work on their own. up five times. Surely, the requirements of government could not have gone up and this revenne expenditure that I am talking Si r, the whole exercise of this Budget of, does not include Defence expenditure. has been made to give [noney to sectors which have the highes t growth poteD tia)H,. Therefore. there bas to be a firm curb OD Governmental spending. Would it not be This is another thrust of this Budget, which possible (or the Finance Minister to say I greatly welcome. But this would be that there should be an across-the-board possible only when there is a clear uDder .. reduetion of 10 per cent on revenue expendi 'standing of the responsibilities betwccD ture and at the same time to ensure that Government aud industry. Merely livla, aU non-developmental expenditure is kept concessions to industry is not an answer to the rapid growth that is beina attempted in strict check? by tbis Budget. It would, in my vicw, be ADoth~r issue which tends to push up necessary for the Government to have I tbe prices is tbe administered prices of the clear dialogue with industry to make .utO that they make an ~quivalent capital iDVCSt ,,,,lJ.lic s~ctor enterprises· products, and I ment in export industt'ks, that tbe1 incrc•• M}'f: if) lnf qlind the e~ample ,?'. Co,J ,: ... 3ts Fi"anc, Bill, 1985 MAY 8,1985 IShri Dinesb Singh] This Budget has a total balance. a balance between controlled prices, diversioD' their allocation on research and develop of resources into areas of maximum arowlb ment, and update the technology. and that ana the oDera tion of market forces through they have a time-bound programme for generation of large investible surpluses iotu job creation and development. This is the hands of the public. But -all of this essential, to involve the industry in a rests on the control of prices. The Finance meaningful manner in our dl.. velopmental Minister has taken pan maJQQ/a from us. processes. At the moment, 'here is a tOUll Even in the concessions that he announced separation between Governmental action to-day. he has decided to retain his-take 00 fiscal policy and economic dt:velopment t over of the pan malaala. Let him not take and jndustrjes acting on their own; and away ice cream from the children. They some measure of coordination is essential t are already paying 25% more for it. if we wish to continue with this pa ttern of mbted economy. PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is concerned with tbe cream of the society. Whi Ie giving specific responsibi lily to the industry it would, in my view, be SHRI DINESH SINGH: That is the essential for Government to create the section which consumes most ice cream, infrastructure which is necessary for our Even on that account, it would be necessary economic development. The first require to hold tbe prices. ment is that of electricity. No industry can grow without electrical power. I had proposed an amendment to Clause I am glad tbat the Minister for Power 7 which related to th.: tea industry in is a Jso here. We hope a I J of us would South India. But now that the Finance derive power from him. Minister has very kindly come out with an amendment of his own, I do not think it PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE would be necessary for me to press this. (Rajapur) : He is a 25 HP Minister. I only wish to express my thanks for bis taking nofe of this. SHRI DINESH SINGH: Prof. Dandavate has not fully estimated the May I say in conclusion that this power that he controls. Budget has a tremendous potential and the dynamism of growth. It is the responsi I would wish to emphasize that electric bility of the government as a whole, parti power generation is in a terrible mess; and cularly the .Finance Minister to ensure that asking users of power to set up diesel this dynamism is not wilted, is not withered aenerators is an enormous waste of away aDd that we are abJe to establish that national resources. There is no reason why there is a new tbrust which will briD8 diesel, which is still largely imported, beDefi t to the largest section of our people, should be used in small. uneconomic to the poorest of the poor; and if this is not generators when we have sufficient stock of done, I think we "ould have played a role coal to produce thermal power. If it is in history which will not be well appreciated merely a question of investment. I am $ure later. But, I am confident, on the other t-be Finan~e Minister would look at it hand, that, with the minisler~ such as that kindty, so that over a long period of rime of Power aDa Finance and various others which he is now pJ3nning to run the sitting here. they are appreciative of tbc industry. there will be a nett saving rather responsibilities that have been placed on than a nett outgo, which is now taking them. place with these sma 11 genera tors. [Tran,lat Ion) In this connection. the other aspect I would wish to emphasize is Communica- SHRI RAM S[NGH YADAV (AJwar) : tion. If we wish our industry to develop Mr. Chairman. Sir. I support the Finance repidly. we have to provide better com Bill introduced in the House by the boo. munication, both transport a$ well as Pinance Minister. Not oDly do I support tcle~o mmunj~a HoPS, it b\lt entire country supports U and l ~. VAISA""" 18. Mn (8.4U) UB tat .daft Ne.. bera, Ir~m tbe: Qp'p~i,t4oa al.o make, paymeDts of,hU'~t •. ,YouJllialt.t IJo IUDport ;.tbe FjQ&uce aUI iQ ;their, h".rt of aware that about 23 per ceDt of our bealt,•• ~~V'Due receip.t ,oes ia p.)'~CJ t ot ,fat.Nlt 9pl), •.. On the l'uodiD8 ~Dd ,H.PIl)-.P.UQd,PIa Sjr, a .blJd,et of tbe type has. been Joans 9utstaadipI Jaaiost India. It baa presented in ,the House, for the ,first time. been said that tbe prices of. ~~.,aiDl Tbe hOD. Prime Mini,sler and the leader of. have I~e ,qp. A, I_r.e .•m~qDt Qf ' .. baid, the cou otry Shri Rajiv Gandhi bas said is beina aiveD"QD .foodar_~D8 aqd iQ)pOrt ot that in the.Seventh Five Year Plan. Govern oil, crude aQd petrol. DgeS.lthe Qp~tioa ment's maio thrust will be on productivity want that ,tbis ~ubsidy sboUld lIe SCOpped:? aDd employment. Keepinl in view ~bis Will ,hey, favour it.? I r~el tllar. Jbe loa. aspect our hon. Pinance Minister bas taken Finance ,Minister bas P~~~Dt ,,8 very ceraain boJd steps to increase production balancQd Budact, and ,the prOlege Piaaace and remove unemployment. I appreciate Bill and tbe, aDDo~nc"meDt. ..m_de toda, the steps taken by bi~. have ,.dded more, feetherl ,o,~js cep. ~I would like to point. evt t~t .'D;4i~" poplu. On behalf of the Opposition, hon. Sbri tion is 15 per ceot of the '9f,J PQPuJat'oD Reddy bas said that our party bas deviated of the eotire world aQd, hot iocQmc . i. from the basic policy and object of bring merely 1.5 per cent of the iQcQme of .the i~g in socialism. But be is under some entire world. Under .tbese circumstancea misapprehensjon'. The provisions made in it is ve~y d.meult f()r :the hoo. ,.PiO&DCO this Budget indicate that there are not f~r Minister of any dcvelopin, couotry, to millioonaires but these 'are meant to cater pr~pare a plan the Scven"th Five Year ,PJan to the genuine needs of the common peQple to ensure the developmen t and ,fowtb Of of 'our c'ountry and to benefit' them. A the countrY,baving su(:b .. hu,e population. budget which does not' cater to the needs You all know that the population inBation of commonman. cannot be calJed a is a very big problem. ,After a period or practical budget. It is called an Utopian two years when ,the mi,d-term appraisal will Budget. This DUdler is 8 practic'a) Budget. be made, tbe present outlay QD tbe ..s~veDth Five ,Year ,Plan might be reviowed and Sir, there is need to understand tbe more funds might have to be provid~. circumstances under which tbe hOD. Finance Under these circumstances it is vcry Minister had presented last year's deficit difficul t . for ,the Finance Minister of any budget. We know the reasons' for ,last year's dev~lopini country "particuJarly ,. for the d~6cit' budget. A great responsibility rested Finance Minister of. tbe, billest democraoy nd our Finance Minister to meet tbat of tbe world. to preseQt a budlot which il defi-:it. Last year there was a deficit of meant for, the welfare or the common m.D. RI. 3,660 crares. The preseot . Finance We appreciate tbe ,.(act that the, hOD. ~inister has 'kept this deficit to Rs. 3,339 Finance MiDi,ter bas takiDg .uP and 'com crores in a very bold manner. I would like pJctin8 th,s ta.k with.,aroat efficiency. to tbank: the hon .. Finance Minister for having' only tbi"s ni~ch' .Ideficit in this I would Uke to subm,it tbat tho hOD. ~~dget. ' , ' Finance Minis tor will bave to pay aUcaCloa towar~s certain tbiDIS parti~\llarI1 toW.fda increasing .be employment opportuDitin; is 'fbe .' hon. Finance M.inister T has , s~~d tpe ,hat there is ~no n~~ to borrow. Joans tbe COUl)try. Sir, you Ir;now thet .,be masi.. · ffq~ ,I.M.P. fie is our first F,nance mum production of. foOd,raio. j fa tbe Minister who, bas said tbis thiDg. When country 10.far was, 1,53.4 miJlion &en,.. II) w~ ,~sed ~(),t.,~e 'I .(Shn lta'Ul Sinsh Yadav] not beiDI benefJted by the capital iaveated io tbem. The reaSOD Ja delay in the execu tbrouah ',wliich we' can crea'te employment tion of socb projects. Due to dela, Dot opportunities. The greater problem only the cost of tbe project goes up but faoiDI~ ,be, country today is the provision tbe country is' deprived of tbe, required of... employment" to the people,. ,and, employ benefits and the' people have' not let aMnC· can, either' be prOlVided dlrou.h indus employment whicb tbey should have lot tr,jea: or, by'" osio, 'i.mproved methods in . otherwise. The project estimates 'go OD al'ic"ltlll'e. You bllve lot ·68 million increasing. In tbis way our country i. beetares! of .idgated land.' During the suffering a lot. I would like to say that tbe Siatb Five Year PIan" you have increased han. Minister should pay attention towards tho, area' of irrigated land from ,56 million improving the situation. heet.res to 68 million -hectares. Today we I would like to submit that you should have : got :1, only· 68· 'million bectares of treat the agricultural sector at par with irritated land out of·)66. minion hectares. the industrial sector. Only then the average It is.·a :very ooalJenging'':tlhk to, bring more yield of our farmers can increase. I admit and more land, undeft'jNigated area. This tbat great concessions have been given to will belp inorease our foodgrains pro farmers in the rna tter of fertilizers. Besides, duetion aDd it W0uI'd also increase our the fertilizer input has also g~ne up and rate 'of growth of ONP~ During the Sixth the farmer has started using more Fivo! Year ,Plan agrlc~tural production has· fertilizers. StiJJ, the rate of consumptioD contributed, the maximum to the ra te of of fertilizers is very low in India com gtowtb of' the GNP. Production will, as pared . to wba t it is other countries of the increase in', the country with the rate of, world.: There are two reasons for this. One increase in 'GNP. During the Seventh Five reason is that there are no irrigation V-ear :PJan the ma'in aim is increase the facilities for the dry farming land in our production of ~foodg'rains. Tbi~ wi J J . be country. And tbe second is that tbe farmer achieved only' then. It wiU hel.p in does not have enough money at the time of achievi8g _ production· target as well as the sowing. Therefore, you ought to pay target, fixed - ~for ctetHing emp'oyment attention towards both these points. As opportunt.tief tn the Seventh· pj·ve Year the sowing season approaches. whether it Plan as it i6 the major faotor responsi ble-' is rabi or kharif, you should make an ferr tbo/ushering in of a socialistic pa ttern' 0(' arrangement to make available fertilizers, society. It is were to :utiUse the manpower l)ybrid seeds and other inputs to the farmer. resources' 'whioh 'are in· abu-ods'oce ·in our If you reconsider the Budget with this view country- This can' be utilised in, two sectors p~jnt and make provision in this, regard, ooJy.,. i.e, ,the "industrial sector and the I think it wi)) have a very good and agricultural.sector. I admit that you have favourable impact on the ecoDom), "of the provided mally Jaeilities to the industrial country. sector a.d tbe development.: wor·ks under taken by you will ~efiniteJy yield results in , At the same time. I would like to' express tho coming: ,'S-, ',.,81'8. During the' period my thanks to' the hOD. Minster who has o£~.the:, nekt "·(o·S years. ,crares of people ',\ announced these concessions in the matter will' ! '.181 ccnp)oymonl.· Bmp1o'ymenl oppor. of industries and has presented in this ttmiUes will furtber increase due to the House for tbe ftrst time a budaet which direction; .iwa by you to :the Budget and bas no partlllel. This is not merely a tbe coirn:x.ndabJe work :done·· by you budget but a Jiving reflection lof our tb'rovp,,,this4·Bud'set ;800' more people will party's as also of the Government of bo able':ito lot,e·mpl07menr., India's economic' charter; economic phi. , f; I, f II. , '\ ~ I I . l losophy and economic ideology. We have , . "t ~.o\lltt· .ls~·IUce t6~' pain!"" out' 'tba t the to fix" som'e norms in fndustriet" 00 tbo pt...,*r~s lof ~wOrlc bn all "'irrlgttion projects basis of the packa,,, announCl!d' by you in" tl* cbttntry'l$g1Cb aSl the .~ lridjta Gandhi and the foremost need is'to aee how in the cataat'r';rprdjebf I'n R.aj4stbah~ prevfously maner · of' setting up of industries we call kna"'tt as the ltalas11lan Canal Project. the change ,·tbe unit, to 'block lev~J :~ tbe Mahi ,\IBlljaJ Sagar' 'Proje-ct,' "fhe' Narmada presenl d-istrict level during·-·tbe,l S'''Hnth PI\ijedt·etc.~ is' very"""s)O~;" Tb~'1 country is Pive . Ytar Plan' .bieb is !'Iduo '.ilt :.t.M ·' , MI, Ptatlllct AliI, 1985 VAISAICHA.1B, 1906 (SAKA) after 8 to 9 Jmontbs from DOW' 10 tbat simplified it ar.d the whole country a~kDow::": unemployment could ,be removed (rom our Jedges it, but at the same tim.e, th~ro is couDtryand industries could expand. Wi'tb still need simpli'fy" tb'~ tax structure furtl;le~. ' the expensive of industries,' more and more './11, people will 10l employment. You have revised tbe 'timit for summary' assessment to Rs. 1 hikbs. This step" of Sir. Ibelle are 24 million unemployed yours is also coinm'endable. The way you: people in our country of whom 2.S crores have -set about' to 'bring ill- the socialistic of people are registered with the employ patterns; of socie('y~ you e'ndeavour towards ment exchanges According to one estimate the betterment or society and the' conces- ", tbis figure is as high as 4.5 crores, out of sion a Howed by you- in excise duty OD two-'" which 2.S crores of people are re'gistered wheeJers snd three~wbeeJers are' also . with the employment exchanges and the re'st welcome steps. The' benefit of those steps two crores are Dot registered with th' will directly reach' the people in the 'owdr employment exchanges as they are unedu. i DCOIDe grou p. cated. The .biggest challenge facing, tbe ., country as a Iso t,bis House is how to With these words, I express my thank. provide employment to tbese 4.5 crores of to you. Our :pubJic sector has many com peopJe who seak employment. Th~s Budget mendable achievements to its credit and· is an' answer to that challenge as it gene the view of one of tbe hon. "Members _pf rates such employment resources which will the Oppositio,n who spok~ today, that, peovide employment to more and more adequate attention was not being paid to people. Our Finance Minister has announced the public sector does nofseem to ~e correct., certain concessio,n to industries, but' more I am sure that ~ur couotr'y win progress aod more facilities are also required to be and flourish under the - leadership of'"our given to the villase and cottage industries leader and ~ o\(r~arty. Our' party an'd' oar and other rura I industries, and to the small leaders are heading towards achieving, the artisans sucb as, cobblers, potters and objective of 'service to the nation!. the blacksmiths, working in the viHages. They usury in of' soeialism- and' tbe progress should be kept free from tbe influence of of the public sector are our principles .and bie industries. Therefore, they need to be our country" will achieve a great deal, of, encouraged. We see that during tbe last year progress by adheri~g- to these principles. as also this year, the amount of foreign exchange earned by us from the finished With these words, I support tbe Pin'ance products of eotoD industry is commendable Bill. ' , , . .,"~: and today there i& a great demand abroad for the products manufactured by the cotton *SHRI V.s. VIJAYA~~GHAVAN indusfry' in our _country. Therefore, you (Palghat): Sir t 'I rise to 'support the' should especially,. pay attentjon to that field. Finance BiU. This BiU wbich giVes effect td the- proposals' contained in budget siloifies:, 15.00 brl. a turning point in the Indian economy~. criticism aSaiDst.,: In the end, I would like to say t ha l I il .' We have heard a 'Jot.' of concessions whlcb you have annou~ct(J, tbis budget. 'The. Leftists h~vp." said· that' , whether tho), be in wealth tax ~r ill, this Budget is an 'aUempt to move away ~ Income tax, or by way of estate duty abt?li •. towards' a capitalist econO,my •. They 'h~vo : tion are commendable by themselves. These done so becaus.e Shri' 'PaJkhiwaJa and other of b,ig ·supported:it. It, CODCCS8iol1S have been' welcomed 'by one , spokesmen -buslnejs and all. At tbo same time I would 'also _. 'we are-goingtodevaluatc',tbe budaet ':merely on the basis of w'llat says" tbe:n like to draw your attention, to the fact, at PalkhlwaJa whicb you ,bad '.'f80 hinted in tliis ~ous!", I am s''(raid' w~ aieO""Do't s6i.oS to" tDa~e, "D' that the tax structure needs to' be simpli. objecti~e ~sseS?n1ent. - ,j' '~"": ," . fied; whe'thor it ii' tbe' pubJlc sector, or it ,8 _ the., individual tax .. payer, ,tax structure Tbis y~ar's ~budget" slgnifies"r t\V~:'J inaJot,.! abould' ,be fu,rt'ber sinplified. Today. we attomps into directions. One i~. ,~t,~lt cer~~~".1 6 ad :'tha.t' whether it is tbe public sector or . " .. :' "t I" "" it il'tile JadivJdua I tax-payer. ,they face a *The speech was ,oriliM,Ul, ~ltV.rod" 'Io,t ~f difBcuh, ia pafiDJ taxes. You bave in Malay_lam. items through fait ptico shops. But I'D (Sui V.8. Vijayaralhavan) order to mako the P.D.S. lucceastul tbo """I 4'" J J, l ~ ~ " ' ' ' , , financial position, 'of State Civil Supplies cq'J1.9" w~ic:~ .w.~e., UnDeCe!8~UY. have ,l;)e~D lou.ht to be removed. Tbe main purpose bas to be sfrengtheoed. I would request the Government to give financial assistance to ot .t.~~8 ,~.xerci.e. ,i~ tp .~cc~Jerate th.e pa~ of these corporations and formulate a com P~UC~i~D.". T~e r~d~~tio.D i~ the corporate pteh~nsive scheme for strenatheniDI the ta~ .. ,pc~,Qn,a'. ta~ and ma~y other conces. public distribution system. li9.Jlave, ,be~eD, ,iveq .with a view to acnc ra~!~., .. ~o~e ,iD~~tib~e . ~~rp,I,us. ~ Besides, Gpvemment, expects tb,t tbis will lead to ,. ,India is an aaricuhuraJ country and 800/0 of its population depend on agricul. Ie .. I, 'tax' evasion ~ud mQr.e revenue. What 11,..,",001 about thi's' approach? A modern ture. In 1983·84 our farmers produded more than 151 milJioD tODS of foodgrains. G9.!~~~C;Dt caDn~t ,operate 00 tbe ptes.ump• tion that aU the tax payers are tbleves. This year it is expected to be more. It ,... ~ jo~ to ".... • • .. t ,. • It bas been proved from experience tbat may be recallc'd that we have decided to export whea t this year. In the 60's we had biah rate of, taxation will lead only to imported foodgrains from America but in bia~r.. ,tax. eV;l~io~~ T~~~efore. a cha,nge the 80's we have reached a position where in ~Jlt exi'tins rate of taxation was neces- we ca!! export foodgrains. This has 'been sary. made possible by our farmers. But I regret to say that many of the problems of our rhe s!=~pDd (lirect ion ,'is with regard t() tb," ~roble~8, of, the work,ins class. Here .. farmers remain unresolved. The major' after')n tbe event of closure of a company problem is that they do not get remunera the "dues of the' workers will be treated as tive prices for their produce. There 'is a T,' _,,' , ' ,,' general comp,laint tbat the APe does not pat I,w!~b:, s~c~re credit. f Thi.s aho,!"s the .iD~reJf, ,of tbe G9vernment In solving the funy tak~ into account the increase in cost t pr~~le~8. of _t~e ,workers. The Oovernmen t of production while fixing tbe prices. b~~,}~J.o ~ro,m,ised, to ~ring ,many importao~ Tberefore. a more realistic approach should lelialatioDs for the welfare of ~ho workers. be adopted while fixing the prices of food gl'lins. Thus. with reaard 'to two basic aspects of' the productive sector the Government While I am on thi~ point I must draw baa take'n' a realistic approach. One is in the attention of the Government to the re~rd to the, 8en~ratio~, of investible miserable plight of the paddy cultivators of surplus' 'ana' the • ottier 'is welfare of the Ketala. Tr.e paddy proJuction has come workers. The Oo~erDment under the leader down from 16 laks tons to 12 Jaks tons ship of Shri R.aji,v Gandhi has brough-t a bou t during the 6th five year plan. The main a \I cliaoae io t'be Indian ~conomy. In this reason is the decline in price of paddy'and COR~e~~ ,I,' ~.~~~' c.autioD tbe Oov~rQmcnt the st..:ep increase itl,th" inputs. The (armers ab9~t a v~1')' Import~Dt, thi~l· That IS about of Kerala are unable to repay the loans the 'need 'for maint.inin, the price level. The which tbey have taken from the ban'ks: G~y~r~!:DeD~ ,its~t~ 'b~s a~~it,tt:d t~at during Unless they repay th~ previous J08n on M.~c~.~prd t,b~ wb~lt8ale, prices have fresh loan 'will be given and if no loan is lo~eup by 2}%. Tbls ,i8, tbe ~esult of the availab~e' ,t,hey canDot, start alricuitural ta*;~dOD" p~opo~~ls in the~ ~ud.et as w,1I as ope,~ati9ns. Thus tbe formers ate in a tb~, fresh. im,pb.t. ~D tbe" railway ~ud8et. dilemJl]a, I WO~ ld request tbe Govcr,nmcot N~rm'~JJ' the~e 1. no relation ,between t,~,e to dec'la~e a mara,oriam on tbe repayment wgoleSale 'price .(ad the 'retail price. Eveo of .~o~ns' f~r. a 'peeiod of ~ wo years. Besides tI'" ,I I , " :; 1 ~ jl·. • .' I Ii . . wtieD the wholesale price remalDS stable tbere pe~tici~es, an~ rerti ,izer shQuld be su~lied " wnf~e ,t.i'~"'ID~ tbe:,r~t~h ·~ric,.. T~.e~e/ore, it to tpem" 8t conces8i~paJ ra'el.' I, JVould., also is ~D,bt)d'~8 lues. as to "~a~!"~,,II. ,b~, '~e req~st tbe G,oye~q.ment, ~o fix, tbe sup,ort increaae I" the retaU prices if tbe wholesale pri~e: for '" ,~addy. ,,', Another, "lu.ae.doD l'rir: ,~o~c;I, up~, ,~~p2.3% duri~. such a tbat I "w~uld I like 't,:l mal(e ,... i. ,lbat .b~rt )~~~i~~ ~~~~~~r~. ·I.~~q~~., ,the' G~vt. fa~mers shou.ld be "ivco produC.tioD ,bo ••• ' , to'~"ie'iU mouures necessary to check tbe Th'~f my ,~~f.;t is 'b~' t GovoromoDt shotrlcl rise ift~'ft5l.nr6-Goyeiiiment· 'ha'i~ adopied~" ta~T. '~:!!d st!P~J p.~s.~ble to holp dlo Ipaddt tbf~'PdlIC; of 4istt1btatms't mdft~' ~aDd I.ore CUltiVators of K.oraJ •• , ~ Sir~ 1 wouid brin'g one or two more this country during the next five years jf problem to tbe nOlice of the Government. we, implement the, poJicies initialed by, theA Kerala Is presently beiDi ruled by a united G.overnment._ Once aaain I support the ftent' under tbe leadership of Con.ress. Pinance Bill and conclude. Th's Govern-ment baa been able to bring about' 'may achievemen·la in tbat State. Law 15.10 hn. aad order has been re-established, 20.. point proltammel bas beeD implemented and [Shrimati Basava Rajeswari In Ihl! Chair) " industrial peace bas been established. It CE',glt~h] was during tb'is period that tbe man days lost bas been reduced to the minimum. SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamo.od I Because of the greater emphasis on social Harbour) : Mr. Chairman, tbis is tbe Ja.t ,101 ' services the Government of Kerala has been of, the Budlet proposals and tbis FiiaaDctJ'. facing financial problems. Si nce the B;j) puts tbe stamp of finality or tbat. We." Finance Commission has placed Kerala in have already had a discussion on BJ,ldp' ~ the cateaory of advanced States the Central generaJJy and, at that time, we expreuecl, allotment bas come down. The result is our apprehensions that the increased rolief ' that tho total outlay of 7th plan is going in, direct taxes and increase .in indirect., to " bo the same as that of the 6th plan. tax~s, will have the effect of Ie Derail,. , This wlU lead to curtailment of many of increasing the prices. That was a month, our 'developmental progrommes. Therefore, and a half ago a nd t in the meantime, the.l I would requ~st the Government to increase prices have moved in a way which far excoeds, ' the plan outlay for KeraJa. our apprehensions. They have moved,~ much faster in an upward direction ,In tms" . Ke(ala is very backward in respect of one and half months, th~y have risen 2.5 to in,4ustrial development. The Central invest 3%. That is the wholesaJe price. I do Dot·, ment in Kerala is negligible. Tbe State has know the increase in index of retail prices. It to." provide employment to 23 lakbs of must be much more. This is because of ,the unemployed persons. If there is no indus Governm~nt baving followed a particu~ar! trial development if would not be possible philosophy, giving it the benefit of douq,;" to. provide employment to them. Therefore, that it does believe in a philosophy aDd .•. , I would reqe~st the Central Government to also, try to follow it bonafide that ir t'_'rc,: prQvide financial assistance to the State for is saving through tax reliefs, that "savh:~.;,,; indpstrial development. 10 this context I will be channeJised into investment and • would remind the Government a,bou t tbe that jnves'm~nf wiJl give more empJoym~Dt ; ratlway ,coach factory. The Government of and output. Now . this is a theory pI .~L' KerJlla ,bad assured of infra~tructuraJ facili scbool of economists, the supply aido ties at ,:oDce_siQnal rates. But it bas not economists. beca ,et up in Kerala. My req.uest is that at· ,'e_at in the 7th five year plan a coach This Government may bave ShO\V,D, a,~"; fac;,pry sbould be set up at Palabat. Simi touching faith in that particular school et. 1 lady. j,~ustries oan be ~et up by using tbe economic thought while formuJatinl ,trul" I cOlDm~r.Qjal. and. other ~ropl. For exam,pIe. Bu~get. ~r, 00 the other hand it ma, ba'Vc;' : a lillie !lumber, of prQcelaing units (01' just ,taken advantage of tbat particular,: rub~r pePler eto. QaD be ae-t up in the , sc~ool of thought to give rc.iel to' peop'e ~ small scale sector. Thus if chain of, luch, to ,whom it wanted to live relief for poUd- d industries is set up we will be able to make c~1 . considerations. Even though it ttlll' be -J a dent in tbe "J,lnemp.Joyment problem. The possible, tbat it .acted bonafide thinkiDB that .t b09. Prime tdlpister' has, taken, keen ,interFst investment, would be stimulated, -tbe output '/ in ~ ',be. 'w~t(Are o( tbe' youtb and I, would w (Shri Amat Datta] and not beleJ in the form of u.oproduAdve wealth. '" .,' . ,., < " • ., ,.' which are necessary for increasing produc tion in the economy. If relief was siven The prices have a,Jready ri$~.Q. Wb"t. only in respect of wealth held in a produc· are you going to d9 about ~bat ,,1 Tile r,l.~, tive from, in the from of plan t and now is DotbioS compared: t9 what ~t wilt ·bo .. machinery and things which produce goods at a future date when the full iJ:;npac,t. (l( tbe and service~ ,then 1 could say tbat you Finance Bill, the increase in tile Jndjrect " have shown that you want to go tbe whole taxation rates, the incfeaac, in railWay·, hOI in embracing a particu)ar of school fares and freights. etc., is felt~ Are. you, thought. But now with the economic goins to give tbe people some r~)jef throul,b decrease in wealth tax. -people can hold controlljng price.s of at least the,~ssential, their wealth in whatever form they want to items? and still enjoy the benefit of lower tax'. They can ho.ld it hi the form of land. rea I The West ,Bengal govenmcnt and the estate;' which is not productive; they can Jeft have been advocating or canvassing for hold it in tbe form of gold or whatever 14 items to be brought under the public other precious items. whose value goes up distribution. The prices of those ,iteDls as prices rise. SOt they cao hold their wealth must be controlled and distributed aU over in aU kinds of such items as a hedge Indian and even to tbe remotest village at the alalnst inflation. There is no penalty for same prices. That is possibly the only that. If there was such a penalty. I would solution for givins reHef to the poor peopJe have Biven" full marks for tbis bonafide against price rise. Anything else· you may action, at least for baving faith in a parti say will not go any way at alJ in relieving cular school of thought and trying to the poor. It wi)) remain a saying but ·if ~ou implement that. But that has not been can still get the votes you will go on saying done. that. But I am sure you are not going to budge an inch from what you are going The Government's concern, the ruling to do. Party's con~ern, in socialism, in public enterprises, 'has recently been demonstrated In giving the tax reHefs· certain pecu- or rather spoken of from the forum of liarities are there. For instance. the wealth, tax Alec. But I do not find it in the Govern rate has been decreased. Tbe rate has been ment's conduct in this tina I act the Finance decrease'd rather drasticsJly I would say. Bill. In this there is nothing to show that from 5 to 2 per cent. I am told even, by the Government has a great faith still in businessmen that they have never expected the public sector and tbat it is not sup tbat kind of a sudden and drastic roduce porting the private sector. On tbe other lion. They are very bappy. But it -does, band. whatever concessions have been not rea lIy conforltl to the Government's er aiven point to the other directio~. namely, the ruling Party's profession of belife 1n tbat the Government is trying to have more socialism. So. I think they should speak at private industrie's,' that the Government is least in a Janguage in which thei,t actioD' livinS more emphasis on the private sector can be ioterpreted. In reducing the wealth as asaint tbe public sector. So. tbey are tax from S to 2 per-cent and at the same speaking in two' voices: speak.ios in one time talking of socialism cannot -be, voice when '~hey' speak to the people; but barmonised. wben it comes to this final act wbich will ultimatety' dec-ide the fate of the eC()Domy at lea,st for the next one year. they Similarly Estate Duty. The realoD are dOing something quite different. This given for its abolition is tbat the cost of ' is tbe type of double speak. speaking in collection was too much. Now what"efforts i ! two voices. in ,which the ruling Party has have bee~ made for reducing the' cost·' or : been babi1uaJ1y indulging. So. I would collection over,' the 'years-tba t ,I, "we were \ request the hone Finance Minister to COD not told. We are simply told tbat it is too ,~ sider whether he will ma ke some changes mucb aDd uneconomic, and. tberefore, . , it is to see that whatever tax reliefs are given beiDa abolished. So I tbink on tbat ~8rOUDd som,e other taxe. can be abolisbed later' O,D~ ,(I" arc cbanneliaed into productiVe processes I I , ' \ ' I :..;, J~' .. ',: /I., I" ~ "tltbtN 11111, 1985 VAISAICHA' 18, 1901 (S,,4K.4) Wo"htl tax will now be very little, after specific CentraJly sponsored scheme •• t.ItO'· t~8uct1otl·. Next' year tb~I' 'PiDabC= NothiD8 more tban that. Yet the State Mi'ni.ter may come ~up with a proposal for Governments are being loft iQ the lurch abolition of tbe Wealth Tax because it will while the Centra) Government's finances tben C bet'time so little, aod' so the cost of 10 up. Central Government is DO lonser doUeCtioh is ~no' longer justified. Like that dependant on taxation -for doiog thut. They tales ~!a'D' be redu'ced 00 I variou~ pleas. are t •.kiog loans from tbe market. Out of. I tbfnk'jt is' (be duty of' tbe . Government all the loans raised by all' the' State to tell' us' exactly what steps they bave Governments tbe CentraJ Government getl-' takclfto 'econOmise on the cost of estate 80 per cent. Centre even dicta tes .how duty ~eollectioD or to simplify the structure much loan tbe State Governm~nt' ea'n ,ct. and all that.' Wby has it not been done? Why should not tbe Centre sit with the In 'Weste'rn 'capitalist 'countries they still State Government!o!. and seeing to theh! have the "Estate Duty. needs give them additional finances? Why should the Centra I Government determino About the attitude towards the public wba t Joan the Sta te Government should lood which has been so much talked about let and in what specific direction they caD from their p]a tforms by the ruting party, spend the money. I asked in the PJannini this' attf-tude does not find any expression Commission's Consultative Comm'ittee meet when the question of redist ibution of iDg as to who approves the PJan 1 I 'was. wealth betwe'en I the Centre and States told that it is the NDC. In one of the comes up_ We are still following-Madam NDC meetings the Chief Minis·ter of Welt you will be surprised to bear-the same Bengal and Tripura walked out because attitude which was given to the Govern they said that they are not given any in.. ment of' India' by Sir Otto' Ntmeyer in formation as to what is going to be tbe 1930s-tbe Centre's ta.tal' neglect of the agenda and they are Dot even given time finances of the State Governments, keeping to Siv= tbeir suggestions. So, this meetio, tbe State" Gove'rnments as a kind of super is only a Centr.ally managed thing. The mWlicipalities and giving them- doles and Central Government forrllliates and tbe not arranging for sufficient finances for tbe State Chief Ministers are brought to give State Governments' to carry out their CODS their consent and raise their hands. Tbere titutiona:! dulies. The $ame attitude is is no real consultation. It is a staao I¥evailinil, Of course,' the bureaueracy managed consultation. One sbould let remains tbe . same and 'the people who away froQ) this kind of attitude. This stepped' ·into 'tbe shoes of the 'fOrmer rulers attitude has not helped us in the past not have somehow imbibed their" phi Josoph),. will it help us in future. We are the moat As ·8 result, loan quote some figures to_ backward count~y of the worJd and wbat. show' what has been bapJ)ening in" the last ever we may say our progress during tbe few years. 'In 1977.. 1980 we find the Plan last 30 years has been the least in tbo budlet . of' the Centre was'Rs. 6412 crores wor:Jd. (InterruPtion,) and the PIa'o' ·budaet of all the' States r to.etber was R:,;( 6099 crote8~'\ The position Some gentleman" said before tne that 'in remained aJ)pfoxirnately the'" •• me upto 166 million hectares of Jand we 'are pro 1'82-83.;'ln i984;85' the-' Ce'ntre's Plan ducing 153 m'illion tonnes' 'of food,rai'ns. budaet' b~came ~ Rt." 17~3SI -crotes 'whereas The Prime Ministe~ and other Minist~rs the States' Plan bud'get wa's Rs. 12,781 have betn praising the Governtne'nt tor Us crores·. It· 'i:S tear'by onc-thitd. The 'Centre's efforts, Sir, China with 100 rbilli()n·heetares Plan budget is increasing whereas tbe of land produces 400" mitUoo tonnes 'of States Plan budget is not increasing. foodgrains. That . is 4 tonnes' J)et hectare whereas as we produce 9 tonne" pet hectare. Sh· .. · ",110 is 'to look after' educatioD, Is the t our achievement ! (lflter,uptlo,,,) r h~alth .. @gricu)ture Bod aU tbe thinas which just repUed' to him. I did not waot to 10 to -make 'llP aD ordinary citizen's well .. raise this. The ' igDorance - of the betD. b~.~~I. lt~,is t"Jitate.GoverDID~Dt wbo is Member appaJled me ! That is' why I ••'d c_,t.tcutiontt.lly J!~spoDsibl.. The 'Ceo tral' it. ~o.~~Pl~Q,t: ,ronl.-, coates ,to tbe ·.saista nee 011 $M'd ~S.·tOi. GDv.erpm.nJs tbro\llb.It)IIM. . ThoD; Sir.' there' is tbe Ovotdr.t. finance ,BII, 1985 ( ..' 1 (Sbri Amal Datta) to ask the hOIl. finaace Minister •• to w~a t h~lpPeO.' ~boD t,bere 'j'.": in4,iactplill, question raised by Mr. Madhav Reddy. all, alon, the HDe, ~h~n some ~r 7thc vl,rio. !iuJly support him. Overdraft question -is O~yernmeDt ~ndertakinas ~wi~8 m~Dey to something' regarding which you must con the Centra J Government Uodertakio, ,or Stilt tbo States. You cannot say that 'your the Cen}ra I Oov~rnment a~d, do not, Pay, ovetdraft will 'be as it existed on a parti .. Why do you only pin-point ,a partie,,""" ~Qlar date in some year'; it cannot be done S~Bte 1 That is not proper. But YOu, blve Hte tbat. It all depends upon the exigencies been doiDB t~at. You know it v~ry weU. of tbe State to determine how much over Yau refuse to ~ncrcase, their overdraft. 'Or: draft is ne'ctJed by them. Take a busiDess you refuse their cheques. ,Fortunate)y lor, maD ,who is doing business; his money does us, we, were able to keep it b~low t40' Jevol Dot come 'in' time for him to go in for of some States under ,the CODttQJ Qf the production. It is the same case with ruling party at the Centre. and .therefore Government. Similarly. sometimes, Govern we somehow eSC8 ped the (ull ri,our of it. mont'. money does not flow in time. Tbey have' to carryon the Government business. They have to pay the saJaries. They have Sir, employment has not been tbe loa I to 10 abead with construction worles. Every. of this Government. Now, in spite of wbat tbing ,is being brought to a standstill. I has been stated by various hone Members, don" know wbether it was just wilful-it I would say. we are going for high-techno may' have been ...... because of the political logy industries, without understanding the pre.sures and all that, in order to topple implications. tbe Left Front Government in West Bengal. But it did affect the development of West Sir, I doubt whether those people who Benla1. Very bad, because of the position advocating the import of Computers 'and take.ll by Centre on ov,rdraft suddenly, various other higb .. tech equipments in ,tliis startinl from 1982. Now, what happens country all aJoog the line (without paying when "a Government borrows money from tbe customs duty and aU tbat) realise aU ttle banking systtm and tba t Government tbe implications. There is no customs duty does Dot pay back? 'Nhat happens when a now I believe for same kind of advanced State Government owes owes rnoney or a computers, called 'Advanced Compu1er State Governmeut CorporatiolJ OWes huge System'. We don't know what is meant lams of money to a Central Government and in fact some computer specialist. .'180 Corporation and it makes no effort to pay COlJld not explain what is meaDt by th:s bee-Ie? Nothing happens, if they bappen 'AdYanced Computer System' and wbat to 'be "States where the ruling party is the goes under the word f Sys tern' .' Anyway. my lam" as the ruling party in the Centre. point is only tbis. Unless certain deftnite Sir', I" bave been told tbat the Punja'b safeguards are taken with regard' to Governmen t had borrowed Rs. 600 crores employment. if such import is allowed from the banking system for the purpose without any re8tri~tion wnatsoever, what ~ollecting foodgrains. It is all very well. will happen? What will bapPc'D to dur Pood,raios have to be collected. But the economy? What will happen to our mono, also has to be paid back. Now, Sir. foreilo ex9hanJe ,position? We do not I would like the hone Finance Minister to know. We are 8ppr~hensive tbat this .rll tell tbis ,honourable House bow much of reduce the employment potential jn a very ~is R,s. 600 crore. bas been paid back. large way unless 10Dle other tneallUl'08 are ),ty iJJformation about a month a80 was taken t'O see tha t employment increase In tUt tbey were holding back this amount some otber sectors. ~f a... ,600 erores. 'Wby ? Sir, this is a CealraUy.administered State now. Similarly, Sir, a company which reduce. ita ~ U.P. tbe S.B.B. owes a fantastic alum clerical Itaft' by putting in a COmputer or ¥.ko RI. 2~ aores to tbe NTPe. They couplo of Computers. I must bave a, dut, :10 bave not .ettled that bill. Now what see that the ~ .people ',made redundant; by l,t«ppens 1 Tbcr,c are many more such in'troduction ,of ' computet. mtJst ('be examples. I cannot waste the time of the emplC)yed somewbere olto. BtIi~IOy.t House by china all of them. nor do I hilve opportuaUies' Illost Dot '0 dotnl ., !a1J. .... ~bo aqaterial io &:tot.H. BtU I woqld li~e Now. wb," arc 'boae ,rem,loDl" Tboh it 353 FIIIQIICe Bill, J 98.5 VAISAKHA 18. ~907 (SJfKA) Flnan~ Bill, 198' 354 Dothin, in tbe Finance Bill or in the ot,her because these industries are not able (0 measures brought before 'this House by tbe sell their produce. They are not able to Government. sell their produce because the market base for industrial loods is very narrow. It is Resarding the problem of 'Sick beea use very few peopJe have enough • Industries' 1 must say that this problem surplus afrer their food budget to spend 00 has not been understood by anybody in industrial goods. In fact, very few people the present Cabinet. Regarding various in India can have two square meals a day. sick industries I have approached number Whoever can have two square meals a day, of Ministers. But all have got the same has got very little money left, to spend attitude towards the sick ir:duc;;rries; "could for industrial goods. Employment oppor H tunities increased; J not careless attltude , I shcu'd say. They must be but see no say: If )iOU are sick, either you payoff, or indication of this in the entire Budget or you just get wound up and the employees in any of the Departmental Damands for wHI be paid off. There is one cor.cession Grants, etc., to say that there is some real. which the Finance Minister has announced. concrete, effort to increase employment. If the employers are to be paid off, what happens is, their entire wages will have to Sir, even in regard to the Rural Deve. be paid. That will have priority. Very lopment sector, what has been done is. just well. But who t w: 11 be there with which to more or less carryon, on the same to pay eff? Nothing really. In most of !ines. Of course, there has been some the case~J the ~kk industries with which we Increase; there must be increase because are now concerned, are industries the price~ have been rising. They have to make management of whiLh has been taken over rather a 'quantum jump' in this kind of by the Centra! Govl~rnment, 6, 10 or 12 Rural Asset Creation, and this can be done year~ ago. But no investments have been only lhrough giving employment to the made. They hav~ been carried on, on a people who are working only for 30 or 40 hand-to-mouth basis. Although wages have 01' 50 da)s in a year and for the rest of the been paid and some product ion has gone year they are just idle. So, those people on, on investments have been made. There wilJ have to be given work and through is no question of technological upgradation thei r work, assets have got to be crea ted. or anything like that. So, what has For this, a big, massive, employment pro happened in the meantime? They have all gramme for Rural Development has to be become unviable. But if the Central initiated. But the Government has done Government takes us this attitude that nothing like that. 'You are not viable now; why should we 'make investment l' then those industries Our main emphasis should be not on will have to close down. Industry; I am not saying that we should not have anything; but what I say is tbat Now, what the Central Government great emphasis should be put on agriculture says in this context is exactly what the and' on Rural Development. I am sorry to Chairman of Employers' Association also say that I see no indication of that in the stated in some newspaper which I read the Finance Bill. or even in aU the Depart other day. It exactly looked like what the mental Grants. Prime Minister said about the sick indus tries. If industry dies, th!!D, what will Now, Sir, the Finance Minister has happen to the people: who are employed said one thing; he has taken credit for that tbere ? Sometimcli there are thousands of elsewhere als\). He has said that there is a people who are employed there. Now. what Crop Insurance Scheme. But, this is a will bappen to them 1 Nobody thinks very, very small measure and an expcrj· about this thiol. Nobody lbiDk~ in depth. m~ntal measure. This measure will mean But many of them caD be made viable by that only those people who are taking loans makinl Ule of the skin and experience from the Banks will get the benefit of some which tbe workers have gol. We have got kind of Insurance. so that the loan taken t(KIay in India an industrial capacity which can be re-paid to the Banks. It is not for , i. not beiDa utilised to more than fifty or thtt benefit of the farmer or for the benefit ,.i~t' pc,r ceqt, How, why is, tbh sq? H h 9f the a,riculturist and tbe poorest that Finance Bill. 1985 (Shri Amal Datta] substitute them. but are they in a position to do tbat ? tbis Crop Insurance Scheme has been instituted. What is required-aDd tbis is . a suggestion which I made to the Planning There are more than 100 laboratories Commission also earlier- is tha t the hiSh· who are cngaged in research Ie lating to • yielding variet iest which have now been agriculture and aJlied products in some introduced only in a part of India-onl)' form or the other. What happens to tbe in the Northern India. -have to be intro knowledge which is accummula ted in these duced in all par ts of India. Farmers being laboratories? These laboratories are finan. basically conservative ha\e to be given ced with the public .fund. More than Rs. insurance. cover for introducing high-yield 1000 crores are being spent on scientific ing varieties. If this could be done and the development, but the results do oot reacb farmers take to high .. yielding varieties, lhat the farmers. The GovernmeLt do not have would genera1e enou~h employment, because the extension service. I have talked to the these high-yielding varieth~s are labour heads of various laborn tories lind asked intensive. As I said, if ClOp insurance them why they do not go to the peopJe &nd scheme could be introduced for these high .. make available the knowhow to tbem. yieldil)g varieties, particular1y in areas They said that they did not have the where they have not yet becC'me popular, moncy. The could train 1S .. 20 traillen a then you would have done something good. year. How in a country like Iodia are This is a rnonetaty meiJsure, not a fiscal 15-20 such people going to help '1 That does measurc. You can think of it. not help in the progress of agriculture at all. You have to have a very good extension There is another thing which I do not system in this country. There is enough like. Companies engaged in fur al deve )op knowledge in our laboratories which must mel'lt used to enjoy a concession; deduction be taken to the farmers, and this is exactly in respeet of funds spent for rural develop what China has been doing. Everything ment. That deduction has been withdrawn. there has been taken to the farmers. But In the last budget, deduction with regard in our cas~, everything has remained in to expenditure incurred by the Chambers the laboratories and a vey limited portion of Ci,lmmerce on rural development was ha s gone to the farmers. withdrawn. This year the provision with regard to expendit life on rural development PROF. N.O. RANOA: We have a very by companies has been tnken away. I do lood lab-lo-Iand programme in our country not think, it is good because you just do in all the States. not have enough p(.~ople to do the extension work. So~e of thc companies who were SHRI AMAL DATTA: Lastly, you doing thIs extension work were doing quite have said that political coutributions wei)' should be allowed by companies. This is on tbe ground that this will reduce corruption. SHRI VISliWANATli PRATAP No doubt, political contributions were one SINGH: Ne.w-found faith in the private of the reasons for corruption and we always sector. said this, but the Question is that jf you say that poitical contributions can n()w ~ SHRI AMAL DATTA: Some people made by companies openly and tha t totally happen to be basically interested in the take away corruption, that will not be so. development of rural ar~a.s. Sonle money This is because your black: money ,ector was, therefore. being spent. In fact. they would remain. Black money sector is more ar~ not interested in spending money just powerful tban the white money sector. out of their pocket, but if by spending Wiln reaard to compa~ies. business sector, some money they could save the tax or black money is more PQwerful tban is the reduce the tal. some people would always white moo.ey. How are you SoioS to reduce come forward. Some companies were dOing tbe leoeration of black money by merely good work in this behalf. I have got per· reducing your tax ra te ? That is not ,o;oa to sonal experience in regard to lha t. I would happen. You have.said tbat your tax collc-c be bappy if the Governmer,.t could substitute t ion wi II 10 up by Rs. 2,00 crores. That ,i. them; in fact, I want tbe Government to what you have sli4. 001)' whit .as. "'200 .. , FInIMl~ BI14 J985 crores more of tax collection, how can you tha t aU its exports are in value added do away with tb" black sector? You form. canno. do that. It must be leDeratina at least Rs. 10.000 crores every year. The black [ Tr an6lation] sector will, remain. Political corruption will remain. This will only be another head SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL (Junagarh) : under which tbe Rulinl Political Party will Madam Chairman, We have been debating get big donat4oDs. It is, 'berefor~, absolu· both the aspects o,f this Budget for the Jast tely a political consideration. There are no two months and today tbe Finance Bill is bona fides in it. before us for consideration. This budget has been appreciated by all sections of the SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP people from alJ corners of the country aDd SING H : Does the hon. member know the hon. Fjnance Minister has recieved that 'ruling political p~rtyt includes that of appreciation from all parts of the country. West Bengal aJso ? Before preparing this budget, he had paid ample attention towards the problems pre SHRI AMAL DATTA: West Benga) vailing in deff'erent parts of the country ruling party is ruling only in respect of and had listened to the views of the peopJe those on whom it has got power. It has and even after the presentation of the not get any power wlth respect to com budget, he has been continuously listening panies. It has got power with respect to to the reactions of people. He remains in people cultiva ting the land, the landless touch with the people up to two O'clock people the bargadars and so on. They pay at night, listens to their views and is trying to our party. Otherw;~e, our Party cannot to adopt a positive approach as far as exist. possible. Coming to tht: end, I just want to say The budget presented in this House has a good word. I appreciate the fact that drawn a mjxed reaction form society. concession is given to the tea industry. Whereas many people have praised the Originally it was limited to companies. budget, a t the sam,! tiule some pc\)ple have Today the hon. Finance Minister extended civilized it for the deficit shown in it as It to partnerships and proprietorships, etc. also in regard to the growth ra te envisaged I hope that cooperatives are also included thirun. I do not want to go into all these , in that. Because of the recent increase in points but instead want to make two or .. tea prices, this wi)) go a long way. The three points before the hon. Finance va luc added export tea is sold at a very Minister on the Finance Bill presented in the high rate. The tea which we export at Rs. House. You have given a lot of relief and 30 per kg. is ultimately sold at Rs. 90 or concession in agriculture and still confinue Rs. 100 or even more than that, when it is to do t)o. The first point whjch I want to sold to the consumer in the Western count .. raise is about engines of less than 10 H.P. ries in a package .lorm. Encouraging I ~ ;, which ~re used only it' agriculture. Mr. value addition on a long-term basis £. J Chairman, the irriagtion facilities in our Dot on a sbort·term basis, must form p:lI t country are scanty and the position or' avai .. of a scheme to boos t the export of leu UJ lablity electricity' is also not satisfactory. value added form. This will go a long way. Therefore, the only means of irrigation in If that is done, I would have been very the entire country where irrigation is done 'happy. Please remember tbat tbe TTCI through tube·wells is oil engine. Those was established by the efforts of Late Shri who have electricity a t their farms aJso Jyotirmoy Bosu who went out to aU the keep oU engines for agricultural operations, Western countries himself, to find out at because nobody knows when the electricity wha t prices tea was be icS lold compared to will go off. Therefore, it is necessary to India in a package form. Thereafter. he keep oil engine as a substitute and it is for uraed ~bc Government and TTCI was set this reason that oil eoaine has a vital role up. But this has been in doldrums ever in the agricultural development of our line.;. Tile Finance Minister, who doubles country. Th importance of oil engine 8S Commerce Minister also may kindly take increases' all the more in tbe areas where ~'~me steps to revita lise the TIcr and' ~ee there are no canal irrigation (acilide.~ Fittance Jill, 1985, (Sbri Mohanbbai Patel] item 68, because it was never under this item. As such, it should be totally Therefore, it has an important role in the exempted. 20 days back when we made a agricultural development of our country. request to the hon. Finance Minister in this regard, he had said tha t they wanted Today, this oil engine is covered under to totally exempt oil engine but it bad Tariff item 66. I would like to ask what its many such components. such as bearings pOSition was earlier and when it come under and fu~1 injection pump which could be it. In this connections, my submission is used fot other purposes also. There is a that before 1960 neither the oil eogine nor separate tariff on them and there is no its component~ were covered under tariff. question of set off in this regard. Our [Engli~h] demand is that the components which are exclusively used in that engine should be exempted excise In 1960t agricultural diesel engines were from duty. You had said covered under Tariff Item 29, for the first in pa rt (B) of your speech- time. Then in 1965, the above engines upto 10 HP were exempted by Notification No. [EnglhhJ 138/65. Then in 1975, the diesel engine uThe rat~ of duty in respect of item components wer(.~ covered under new T.!. 68. 68 of the excise tarifT is being raised This is the present T.I. 6~. For the first from the existing Jevel of 10 per cent time, the components were covered in 1~75. After representation, the components of to 12 per cent. This is likely to yield tbe diesel engines Were exempted. vide noti an addilional revenue of Rs. 125 fication No. 114/75. Again in 1979, I think crores by way of central excise duties during the Ja na tn regime, the a bove con and Rs. 60 l:rorcs by way of ~ounter cession was Withdrawn, vide Notification vailing dwy in a full year. I must 26/79. It was withdrawn. hasten to add that this increase will not affect the raw materials and [Translation] , manufJcturec' inputs which are inter nlediatcs, as the exisfing provisions So, it has vital role in the development f,,)f the set off of the duty paid on of agriculture and the country for that goods f(illillg under item 68 used in rna Her. The c(JJnmon nlan, who ca nnot the rna nufacture of other excisable afford to keep a tractor or some otht!f goods, would continue." accessory. keeps an oiJ engine. As such, this is a primary need of the farmer. [Trtl,.~'a tio.,.] Many changes have since taken place in it and now it has come undt:r tar jff' j tem 68. What you have said does not apply in Therefore, my submission is that there is the present case because an engine of no duty on oil.engine of 10 H P. capacity, 10 H.P. is tota Ily exempted and if an oil but there is duty on its components. When engine set is not installed, it doest not there is duty on the components, the duty apply to it. automatically comes on the engine as well. The second iOl~ortant point in it is that You haVe exempted many components if somebody manufactures only components of common use~ such as, of cycles aod the tariff is levied under item 68. but jf sewing machines in the Jast budget. This is someone manufactures oil engine. there is also necessalY for baving more production DO duty on it. as the duty is levied only on and it shouJd also be totally exempted_ tbe manufacture of components. If the person manufacturing engines manufactures Wi th regard to tariff hem 68.. I would components and assembles an ensine. there like to say tha t before I bad raise. Thi. is no duty pa)/ablt. Therefore. a situation matter, changes hand already been made has arisen today in whic'h it is difficult in respect of all other items except oil (or the manu(ac'ur~ls of components to engine. So I do not know whether our stay in competition with the manufacturers request wi II now be entertained or Dot. as of engines. Therefore. I want Ihat you have just now made certain cban.ea. cDline should not be ke.pi under tariff But. m~ &ubmissioD is tbat )'o~ hayO 3~t F'nonce Blli, 19~5 /1lnane, Sill. 198 ~ 'reduced the ext"mption limit from Rs. 30 SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAT (Ohosi) : lakhs to Rs 20 lakhs and the rate of excise Mr. Chairman, Sir, I lise to support this duty between Rs. 20 lakhs and Rs. 30 lakhs first Finance Bill of the Eighth Lok' Sabba. has been reduced from 50 per cent to 25 This Finance Bill, which has been presented per cent. What I want to ~ay is that the by the hon. Finance Minister to give people who run these factories are very legislative shape to the General Budget pre small persons. Even if they insta JJ two sented earlier, have some meri ts for which machines in one room, the produ :tion there Members from both sides of the House of touches the Rs 20 to 30 Jakh limit. have commended it vcr y much. It is a There are 40,000 such units throughout the pract ica 1 budget. Prior to it, the collection country which have n()w come under tariff of used to be difficult as m::tny formalities item 68. Some of fhe owners of this industry had to be completed and Government were are such that they are themselves the unable to co1Ject the intended amount of artisans and have become owners from tax in spite of their best efforts. But our artisans by taking loans from the banks and hon. Finance ~·(jnister has admitted those due to Government's ::,?oJicy. They cannot things with an open heart and by eliminat afford to maintain accounts regarding excise ing those formaJitie~ has -created an atmos .. duty and they do not have even a clerk to pharc in which Government could collect maintain such account. They are so nluch more taxes and a t the same time could get uneduca.ted rhat jt will become an rid of unnecessary expendi rure and labour obstacle in their way. When this limit in the observance of those formalities. was Rs. 30 lakhs, they ust'd to stop production at the point of Rs. 28 to 29 There are many incentives for tbe Jahks and did not want to be covered industries in this budget and we hope that under excise duty. Today, what has in the coming days more and more indus happened is tha t you have rt"duced this tries will be set up in the country leading limit from Rs. 30 lakhs to Rs. 20 lakhs. to gent:n11 ion of more and more cmploy Now, they will have to stop at Rs. 16 lakhs ment. The good intentions with which our lest they should come within the excise hon. Finance Minister has presented this net. budget will certainly bear fruit. In tbls connection, I would like to refer to two or 16.()O hrs. three points. My reques t to you is tha t the problc:m Many of our people have expressed tbe can be solved to a greater extent if the apprehension that in spite of a marginal limit is allowed to be retained at 30 lakhs. increase in taxes and increased facilities You have reduced the rate of duty to 25 provided in this budget, the prices have per cent, but bad you fixed this duty at risen so sharply that it has adversely 40 per cent instead of 2S per cent, we affected the common man. The price of 'Would have had no objection to it. But salt which is the sma!lest item of use by you do re-consider the exemption limit the common man, the prices of foodgrains which you bave reo II : '(1 from Rs. 30 lakhs and other essential commodities h~ve risen to Rs. 20 lakhs bec.lu:)c two thousand small so sharply that I fail to understand how it scale industrial units out of four to five has so happened in spite of such a thousand units in our Rajkot, have been practical budget. closed down. They have also sent a repre sentation. Two days back, I also received a 10 the capacity of Finance Minister, it telephone call that they were going to is his responsi bili ty to provi de nlore relief launch an agitation. As long as the Finane: to the people. Minister does not intervene in this matter, tbe problem is not going to be solved. So far as the discussion on this Finance Bill is· concerned, I bad submitttd earlier I hope, you wi II certainly consider also that there are many areas which have living exemption to- the components of been lost sight of, such as our eastern JO·H.P. engine which is used in agriculture. U P .. every inch of which is known 10 our With this request, I support the Finance hon. Fina nee Minister. He knows tbat BUI. that area is Dot ,oina to be developed ia· Finanu /JIll, 1985 [Shri Raj Kumar Ra iJ this issue is raised, the paucity of fUDda and resources is made out to be the reason aDd this way. It is ~uch a unit whose com the rna t ter is evaded. munica tions, industry, agriculture and irrigation needs to be deveL pcd on separate We are fortunate to have a most lines under a special plau- If a separate comptent person as the Finance Minister authority for Ihe development of this part of the country but nothing can be worse of the 5t a Ie IS not crea lcd, if specia I than tbat the districts and the poor sections attention to. its deveJopInent is not paid. of 'the peopJe of eastern Uttar Pradesh· what to talk of one budget, hundreds of should be ignored as here to before in spire budgets wi II continue to be presented and of having a Finance Minister who has all States wjll 1;0 on making progress, but carried experiencr. and has seen the' 'back eastern Utt~r Pradesh wi)) continue to ward and poor regions quite closely.' Who groan as a backwa rd area. I do not say will then improve their lot? that the other parts of the country are not and poor, the position of eastern ,weak but Without going into ·detail, while J Uttar Pradesh is very critical. support the Bill .. at the same time I request the hon. Finance Minister to ensure fhat Broad-gauge railway line is almost attention ;s paid to all these things. Tbe negligible there. It was in this context tha t Congress Governnlent is a socialist govern I h d requc~ted through the hon. Finance ment. We are committed to socialism. Minister, th(' hon. Prime Mii1ister and the Therefore, it was envisaged aud the hon. hon. Railway Ministtf that the work on IndhC'ji had also said so, on the basis of the Shahgunj .. Balia broad .. gauge railway which the programmes. such as, N.R.B.P. line should be completed early so as to and R L E.P. were introduced so that the power the way for the progress of that area. poor farmer who goes to the fieJd with his The progress of WOl k on the Bhatni .. spade could get some foodgrains, some Varanasi narro~l-gaulle line is so slow food, sorne wages a nd India may not remain about 16 kilometres of track ha.:i so far that India about which anybody in the bee,n cons tl'ucted - tha t lnany five year world dare say that here is a country where plans will he over, but the track will not nobody has any work (0 do. Therefore, be completed. such sch~mes were formulated io which work was made available 'for all those who Another thing which I want say is wanted work. Although this guarantee of about thl! Thermal Power Station at Dohri work W~iS given, yet at the same time 1 Ghat. Azamgarh, tbe jn.Hallation of which would like to say fhat the benefits of such was announced by the fornler Prime a big scheme involving huge funds are not Minister, Shrimnti Indira Gaudhi. In this accruing to the people due of Inisuse of connection, I had wrilten to the hon. funds dUI ing implementation. These funds Minister (If Power. !he hon. FJnance are not reaching in poor. If a survey is Mini~ter a nd lilt· lion. Prime M inist<.·r that conducted of N.R.B.P., it will reveal that tbe ann(>Ullcement made by the former the entire funds to the tune of crores of Prin1e Minister should be honoured and rupees are being spent on the contract provision in this regard should be made in system. We provide the money so that it the St;!venth Five Year Plan so that, keeping could be utilized by the poor for earniog his in view its utility, the work 00 this project liveiihood, and at the same time the con c()uld commence early. A similar project struction of a road, a path way or a canal was drawn up in case of Unchahnr and the could also be ulldertaken. We do not work has also been commenced. If that provide this money to be usurped by tbe prC'ject is not taken up a long with this contractors in connivance wi th the govero project, the districts of Deoria, Gora khpur. ment employees. The last man in the Basti, Balia, Azamgarh and Ghaziput of queue, the poorest of tbe poor whom we eastern Uttar Pradesh which can get the want to benefit and for whom we aDd benefit of development with the setting up sanction this huge amount, does not lot of oniv\ ., this thermal power station, will this money. You do distribu-te it for tbe renlain undeveloped as at present. But no sake of doing so, but it never re.cbes him. project has .bccn taken up there. Whenever Therefore, what is needed is tbat whalever An.. Bill. 1985 FlnanN Bill, 1985 366 money is provided should reach him and its very congenial atmosphere has been crea,ted proper benefit should accrue to him. I by this Budget. Even for those who ha ve remember I was an M.L.A. in Uttar export trade. tbose who deal in export of Pradesh and the boo. Finance Minister was goods, very heavy cODcessions have been then the Chief Minister of the State. Once given aod I thlok we will be able to earn a we decide tha t the money is to be given, lot of foreign exchange because of this we sball certainly give it to tbe intended Budget. It has been a very bold budget and persoD. We shall do away with the for as far as productioil is concerned, as far as maJities, as you have removed the formali trade is concerned. it ;s a budget which at ties In taxation. I would like to submit least most of us, Members from this side that if a person is finalJy seJected by the and that side. wanted, and 1 should calJ it cODcernc,4 authorities for being provided ideal trom rha t point of view. But, for with 'a 'buffalo for earning livelihood for wha lever concessions tha tare givo:n, the bis family by selling milk, why should he alternative reV~l1ue has 10 be found out and undergo so many formalities and restric because of (hat. I think. a harder exercise tions ? Sometimes has to run after the was necessary to fiod out an alternative" doctor, at other times he has to make Whatever may be the taxes that were rounds of the bank. With all these formali. imposed on petroleum products, some con ties, your help becomes meaningless for cessions were also given and also the him. I would like to say that when you increase in the railway fare and freight has have decided, and it is your policy also, led to price rise which is disproportionate that the poor man i~ to be assisted by the to th!s increast!. If this factor 1S taken administration, then what is the meaning into consideration, probably the cost of of imposing so many formalities on that transport is a very small factor In the poor man? The hon. Finance Min ister price rise. But this has been made misuse when ,he was the Chief Minister of U.P., of by the producers of goods, by the had said that he favoured decentralised wholcsaJers, by the retailers, and in planning, but after his moving out from particular areas where there arc no roadl, the State, tbat situation did not come ab()ut. the people have to carry the goods on Today, fortunate).) t he is tbe Finance mules and horses and camels, and those Minister in the Centle. I lcqUt:::.t him poor people have to pay very beavy prices .. through this great institution that he ~houJd Somehow or the other an a tmosphere of remove all those restrictions because of price risc has been created and peopJe all which the funds intelJded for the poor do ovt:r the country, particularly people in the not reach them. I hope tbat he will rural areas-my friend was talking about announce today the Jifting of tho~e restric only U.P. and I come from a place which tions and tbe doing away with those fOJ'mah· is away from U.P. There the people have ties. There should be no contract system in been complaining about thl! price rise. tbe implementa tion of schemes like the Unfortunately. the exchange rate of dollar N.R.B.P., R.L.E.G P. If contracl systf:m a Iso ra ised at tbe time when our Budget has been adopted anywhere, the concerned wus p«':~t:nted. The price rise in diesel is authorities should be penalised. With the~e pal tiy llU,: to the Budget. But the major words, 1 express my gratitude to you. part of it is'. probably dUI! to the exchange rate of dollar. This actually synchronised (E"gllsh) WIth our Budget. So, people think that tbe rise in tbe price level is all due h) the SHRI O.L. nOGRA (Udbampur): Budget. But that is not t.ile fact. Somehow Madam Chairman, I am very grateful to we have b~en conlJoJjing it jn the past. you for aiving me the opportunilY to say a Now th~ people are feeling the pinch of it, few words. I am not going to deliver a particularly (be people wbo are living in JODI sp~ech, but I wilJ. only dra~. the the rural areas. So. I will request the atteDtion of tbe bon. Finance MInIster Minister to find out what can be done towards a few facts. bees use jf we take 00 Jy harsh and casual measures probabJy it [nay agJ in li~e a Madam. this is an excellent buctset boo!;t to corruption-policemen and civil from the 8rowtb POlot of viow. For lbe supply offici a Is miabt be let loose on dis. powtb of iDd\1~Ur1 and Qommergo probabl)' • tribution s),stem. So, natul'aU)' tbat WiU 367 FlIlance Bill. 198,5 MAY 8, J98.5 FinalfN BIII.1985 368 (Shri G .L. DOlra] book a ticket, people in (he Airlines say· that tbe booking will be finalised at Delbi also create problems. So, a very serious and then they will come to know. I have consultation is required so far as this aspect written a letter to tbe hon. Minister also of cOillroJling price rise is conc.:rned. tha t p'.:'opfe hay; ng boukl.:d the lick~t a month ear lier have not got the confirmation Concessions were given by our hon. till the last dat..:, till they reach the airport Finance Minister at the time of conclu:iion on the day of journey, they do not know of the Genera I Discussion on the Budgc:t. whether they have got a seat or not. So. But the benefit of those concessions or ",hen you go for booking of the air tickets reduction in the ra te of taxes has not been or for booking of the railway tickets. the passed on to the consumers. If has bl!en atmosphere of scarcity faces you and appropriated or misappropriated by the people are just f.:eJiog heJpless. Yest.erday people who have been dealing in this fidd I want to get the ticket, to the railway producers, wholc~~le(s and retailers. But count.er in Parliament. Ev~n though it is as far as the people are concerned, the meant only for MPs. I could not reach the prices once raised have not come down. counter. This is the environment prevail· There is a Iso laxity so far as the Stale ing. You have to take note of it. Governments are concerned. The difficulty of the Central Governnlent, and particularly I wou1d like to bring to the notice of the Finance Minister is, they have to the hon. Minister of Finance that various implement everything through the State members have spoken on the need for Governments. I have secn from my own even development of the country. India is experien.;e that it was not allowed to raise making development in both industry and the freight or even the carriage rate or agriculture but the development is not passeng~r rate by the transporters with even. There are certain parts developing out the approva·1 of the Sta te Government. like anything and the rest of the country is But this time. it so happened that even lagging behind. This uneven development fares and freight in aJl the States were is danaerous. The people living in under raised by t he transporters themselves with deve loped pockets are feeling about it. The out consulting the State Government~. hoo. Minister of Finance can just look to without making thcln to fix the reasonable this because he can guide those States ~Dd increase, j f neces.sa ry. · those Departments which are ignoring the backward areas or under-developed areas. Today in Delhi we are feeling the Only the hon. Finance Minister can help difficulty t-ecause the three-wheeler drivers in the even development of the country. and owners and even the taxis are on strike The socially and financially weaker sections and our people, particularJy who have deserve special attention. come here to attend the AleC Meet and So far as agriculture is concerned, I also the Cong.ress Cen 'enary Meet have to have already pointed out that there are face lot of difficulties and they have to go certain areas whic" are deveJoping very 00 foot for a long distance, and pay very quickly. But there are the irrigated areas. heavily if by chance they could get vehicles. But as regards the multi-cropped areas, we have to think of these Ihings and So. single crop areas, backward areas, desert solve the problem. areas and hilly areas. all are feeling fbat they are not able to make progress in The atmosphere of price rise has been agriculture An effort is being made by the generated. Even the atmosphere of scarcity Agriculture Universities and Colleges of has been so created that even afler we the Government also to develop agriculture introduced this computer system in tbe all over. We have to pay attention to booking of air tickets, we are feeling the this. pinch of it. I think, everybody is feeling it. Otherwise, you never found that there Drinking water is another p_roblem. In was scarcity of tickets But now, everybody spite of our bes t efforts, there are villages feels that. Whenever one soes for a ticket, which are feeling the pinch of lack of water it is not available. In moffusil area, it is supply. Therefore, we ,have to see that thq wors~. If you ,0 a mOD,h earJ,ior ano ,~riDkip, w~ tcr i, ma AfforeltatioD and deforestation is It has been brought to out Dotice tal connected with drinicina water problem. the credit chaDDels. both fn a,riculturo aad AlI'orestation is necessary because aU the in industry, are not free from corrupt,ioa. lorests which have beeil there are our Everybody who loe8 to Ict tbe credit'.iI wealth. as well as conserve the source of rubbed OD the ~ron8 side. Th~ alenciel are. water-supply. Tbttefore, they are very exploiting tbe people who apply for cred.i·t. necessary and they have to be protected. That has lot to be Itopped. I know. 10 rar as baoks are concerned, the Financo, We have a Department of Envjronment. Minister has taken some interest, be is I think: most of the Officers of this Depart trying to ,improve the situation. Evon .in ment do not go to see how; the programmes the state agencies like tbe State PinanQCJ are implemented. What is the use of giving Corpora lions, there is a lot of corruption money ? My suggestion to you is tha t prevalent. Th~y are, of course, sup,posed every Ministry should have an Inspection to be State institutions, but the money It Team. should go to the field and see , goes from the Centra I ki tty for re-financiol. what steps are being taken to implement I would request tbe hone Pinance Minister the programmes irrespective of the party to see that this evil of corruption is stopped which is ruling there. They should see that in these institutions; because they are tbe the money given is spent for the purpose guarantor of development, particularly in for which it is given. Porests have become backwa rd States. If they start misbehaving. the casualty of the la<.:k of these inspection it will become very difficult for thoso teams. p~ople to get the concessions which you are giving. Another point which I would like to bring to the notice of the hone Minister of In the end, I would say that whatever' Finance is that the fees being paid to the you are trying to do is very laudablo lawyers and consultants on income .. tax by indeed. But kindly have a monitoring cell tho assestes to defend the cases are not so that you keep on checking tbe imple being treated as permissible expeese under mentation. We have to learn from tbe tbis Finance Bill. This is very unfair. This is peopJe, we have to listen to tbe people. a very unfair restriction. If whatever a nlan • If you have your monitoring cells for aU bas to spend on defending his own case j" these programmes, you wilJ know the real Dot Permitted, it is very unfair. I would thing. request tbe hone Finance Minister to recon aider this. These are the few suggestions I wanted to make. Another point I would like to make is this. The rural areas, particularly those (Translation] areas where the national integration move ment is weak, may be Jammu and Kashmir *SHRI P. SELVENDRAN (Periakulam) : or eastern States or hilly areas, may be Madam Chairman" I wise to say a few exploited. There, ,we need a thrust for words on the Finance Bill for 1985·86. The development and employment especially in Fjnanc~ Bill gives Jegislative sanction to villages. Without that. it is not possible the taxation proposals announced by tho to strengthen the feeling of oneness of the Finance Minister in his Budget. country. It is a ,very good and a welcome .esture that the Prime Mjni,ster bas made At the outset I would like to brio, It 10 far as Punjab is concerned; he has to the notice of tbe House that it hal become spoken about the Thien dam and other a convention OD tbe part of industrf·aUat. projects; a coach factory it; also being to rush to a Court immediately after the established there. Some such steps are Finance Minister anuounces taxation p~o necessary in other areas also. We should posals. This bas become a recurrina aDDU) ,0 tbe whole hog at it an'd we should make phenomenon. I would give the example of tbe people feel that they are a part of the what bappened this year after the Pinanco country aDd tbat tbe Centre is taking a Minister announced the rationaUlatioD .. of arest interest in them BO far as their fllbployment is concerned,80 far as tbeir *The speech was ori.inall, delevirecl in _aollde d."lopm0lt1 i. coacerDed •. Tamil. MAY ,I. I'" l'f... _11,.1.5 372 [SIIri p, Solvendrao) more. You can wen imagioe tbe conle. qunces in the States. The State Ooveroment excite duty match industry. On tbe next employees wj)) start venrilatin, their day scores of writ petitions were filed in· genuine demand for enhancement of D.A. Madral Biah Court and int~rim stay was and interim relief. After all, the pri.cea· obtained. Naturally the Government cannot rise js common to all. The rice is sold .,t proceed with the collection of excise duty the same price to the Centra) Government from match industry. This also impedes employee and the State Government the industrial growth of the country. I employee. Both have to pay the same prjce would also live the illustra tion of the for vegetables. They have to buy cinema receDt judgment of the Supreme Court tickets at the same price. They have to buy about tbe post-manufacturing expenses for edible oil at the same price. There is DO calculating excise duty. Now the Govern discrimination in this regard between the ment bas got the ooportunity to recover two. Naturally the State Government tbe outstandiDg excise duty of Rs. 800 should try to redress the grievance of the crores or so from the industrialists. Madam. State Government employees and sanction tbe Government had to wait for five years more D.A. and increase the interim reJief. or 80 to go ahead \\ ith the collection of The Question is where will the State excise duty and also to proceed with the Government go for money. All the elastic recuvery of arrears. During this period revenue resources are with the Centre and of five years tbe industrialists were enabled the inelastic revenue resources are with the to utilise this money for persona I aggran States. If they enhance the non-plan disement. Th's is highly reprehensible and expenditure like this, naturaJJy the financial tbc Government should endeavour to stop coos traints stand in the way of implemen tbis kind of reforeoc:s to Courts on finan ting Plan schemes. The Reserve Bank of I cial leviti proposed by the Oovernmen t. India is very strict in sanctioning overdrafts. would sUllest that the Government may There is rigid adherence to the rules in the let a law passed for prohibiting references matter of overdrafs. We cannot expect the to Courts about tbe financial proposals. State finances to be sound enough to m~et The Government is the arbiter of the destiny such frequent increases in D.A. and in of tbe country and Dot the Courts. We should • interim reHef. Dot encourage such legal quibblings on fiscal matters. I request tbe hone Minister Our Chief Minister, Puratchi ThaJaivar ponder over this and ensure tha t the to Dr. M.O.R. has been repeatedly stressing convention of taking to Courts and getting in the meetings of National Development Itays on fiscal measures is eradicated from CouncI)_ that the State Government sbould tbe national scene. be consul ted by the Cen tre before the announcements are made regarding D.A. Secondly, I came across the statement and interim relief. With prior intimation of our hone Finance .Minister that the the State Governments will be able to take Centre bad to meet tbe entire Plan invest some premptive steps and prevent agitations ment of two States in tho country-one 00 the part of the employees demandinl State OD account of chronic drought and higher DA and interim relief. We cannot tbe other State due to ftnancia I misma nage. prevent the State Government from exercis meDt. None can dispute that drought is a ing theirconstitutiona) right to agitate and natural calamity; it is beyond the control to ventilate thejr genuine demands. BUf or 'Government. The Government of India the State Governments should have finances should 10 to the rescue of such States to manage this. I sugaest tbat the Central afBicted by drought. In the other case also, Finance Minister should should take iDtQ the BOlnacia·. mismanagement in a State· con fide nee the State Chief Ministers whiJe comes ·about on account of wrong fiscal the Central Oovernment employees are Policy of the Centre. Recent)y the. Ccnt~aJ liven DA and interim relief. I am sur, qovernment has announced interim rehef tba t the· hone Finance· Minister will eosuro to the Central Government employees and this. I ' 8180 further instalments of Dearness Allo .. "ncc. This is loina to cost tbe Central 'I will now refer to the increasiJ)1 for.~jA OoYora~Qt ,nn~U1 Rs. 380' crores and. debt. I~ 1985·i~ .e have to ,pay 1M,. '1~~4 crores, ift 1986·87 RI. 2010 crores and in 16.34 brs. 1987·88 Rs. 2396 bon. Finance crores. The [Mr. Deputy Speaker In 'h' CIUJI,I Minister has to find ways and meaDS for this. In our national income, the foreign 0 debt is of the order of 25 / 0 , We have to become adnlircrs. We find it difficult to feed pay the debt in foreign currency. We have our hosts lor a day. Here 80 laths chiJdro,D taken 68% loan from America and American are being fed every day. It has received supported international financial institu .. ~niv~rsal acclaim. Evco international or,.- -tlons, 12% from Britain and 10% from nlsatlons hrve baiJed this scheme. I want that West Germany. I have to say this because this scheme should be trea ted 88 Plaa we have t~ pay back the debt il1 dollars scheme. I request the good offices ot tbo and pounds. Finance Minister in this reaard. Similarly•. I am sure that our Finance Minister would According to the recently announced be generous enough to ensure the a pprovaJ three-year Import and Export Policy, I an) of the Seventh Five Year Plan aJJocatioJl for Tamil Nadu. afraid that the imports will be increasing substantially and the exports will be deple With these ting. The natural consequence is adverse words I conclude !b1 speech. balance of trade and our inability to pay back the foreign debt in foreign currency. Unless we accumulate foreign exchange, SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS we wi II not be able to repay the foreign (~hilwara): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I debt. I wouJd quote here what our great flse to support this Finance Bill. The Tamil poet KAMBAR had stated in his Budget presented tbis year by the hon. Ramayana, while describing the state of Finane: Minister has been appreciated by mind of King Ravana a t the time of the all sectIons of the society. This Budget wilJ defeat of his mighty ar01Y. His state of provide an impetus, to tbe growth of our mind has been compared to the state of industry and this will push up the develop mind of a debtor. You can imagine the ment of the country speediJy. With thi.• plight of mother India who is steeped in Budget we shall march forward on the path such heavy foreign debt. The hon. Finance of economic progress. Minister must take energetic steps to clear the foreign debt burden as early as There is no point in the criticism 01 possible. this Budget by some of the OppositioD Members. They say that this Budget deviate. from the pa th of socia )ism. Our view i. It is estimated that the Central Goven that with the provisions made in tbe ment's revenus resources are becoming Budget, our country will definitely develop scarce because of heavy incomtax arrears further and it will generate more and more to the tunc of Rs. 1200 crores aod the tax employment opportunities and thul It evasion of the order of Rs. 2000 crores. would benefit the people of the country.. It The tax evasion loads to 8en~ration of wHI give an impetus to the economic deve black money and I need not narrate the lopment of the country, but thero are havocl being created by black money in certain points to which I would Uke to our country. Stringent measures should be draw the attention of the boo. Fjnance taken to root out black money through tax Minister. eva.ion. Tax arrears should be recovered expeditiously. Then only the finances of There is a principle that the Jesset tbe tbe Central Government will become sound. tax, the more would be the collectioD' or I request tbe hone Finance Minister to take revenue. From our experience of tbe Ja.t up urgent steps in this matter. two to three year. it has beeD prove that the reduction in the tax ratc bal enbanced . Betor'e I conclude. I would refer to t'be our income and keepioa that in mind, )'Ou DutiitiOQS .rhea Is scheme beiol implemellted have tak~n good steps this year also. by oQt Chief MinIster Dr. M.O.R. He is f06dh,.- 80 lito cblldren every' day. Sven' I would Jite to draw the attcotioD t tbe' '\\Por... · cri BCI of thi. scheme bBVe th~ hon. Minister towards -' income tas: .11; MAy 8.1~~ [Sbri Girdbari Lal Vyas] about the excise duty. The excise duty which you impose is recovered by your concessions you have given are welcome officers. We have seen at various places and step., but I would like to draw your have examined aJso that it is not levied to attention to certain sbortcomiols. You have the requisite extent because the concerned .'ivcn 'more concessions to those pe,oplc officers get their own fixed share in it. This wbose income is more and have given less results in loss to the exchequer to the tune concessions ,to tbose whose income is les,s. of crores of rupees. At the time of audit If you calculate the percentage of the con many discrepancies are found. Thus, tbere cessions given up to Rs. 25,000 and the is a lot of bungling in its recovery. Con.,. concessions given to the people with sequently we do not get tbe amount of income between Rs. 1 lakh and Rs. S lakh, revenue which we should have got. You you wi II find that the bi. people ba ve been should take action against these .people given more concessions as compared to the aJso. There is need to streamline the people with less incomo: procedure to avoid loss to the Government. SHRI VISHWA NATH PRATAP Now I would like to make certain sub SINGH: Though I will give a detailed missions about customs duty. You have reply to the hon. Member's point yet at opened customs offices a t various airports. the moment I would like to tell him that All over India, check-posts have albo been tbe figures are just the reverse. established but in spite of aU this. smug gling is going on at many places resulting SURI OIRDHARI LAL VYAS: I am in substantial losses to the exchequer. To submitting my point as I have understood. avoid this, you will have to make proper It jg good jf you say that you have given arrangements, particular]y in tbe border more concessions to the people with less areas where smuggling is going on. All the income. That is what we also want. poisonous drugs are being smuggled into our country. Tbey are creating a very bad You have been kind to Rajasthan. You effect on our youths. If this thing is not have reduced the excise duty on marble checked, it will have a very bad effect on from Rs. 25 to Rs. 10. but still it is OD th~ our society. You will have to take strict higher side. Thousands of people are action in this regard. Strict action should . engaged in the marble industry in Rajasthan be taken against the big ganges who indulge and because of the imposition of this excise in smuggling. . duty the whole marble industry has come to grindins ha It. The Border Security Force· personnel and the personnel of other enforcement In this connection. a representation has agencies posted in the border areas aod also been submitted to you. You have hand in glove wHh these gangsters resultioa reduced the duty, but even Rs. 10 is also in large-scale smuggling. Proper actioD on the higher side. It will be better if you needs to be taken i D this regard as we II. reconsider it and reduce it little further. The Oppositioo Members have made it Sir, you know that the Rajasthan a point to cri tieise the estate Duty. Estate marbJe ,is sent not only to tbe different duty luis now been abolished totally. That parts of tbe country, but it is also sent to is why they have sot a chaoce to say that tbe foreign countries and thus it helps in our Government are giviDg relief to tbo earninl foreian exchanse and provides big people from taxes. I have gono tbroUlh employmoot to thousands of people. Tho the detailed statistics resardinl the Bstate majority of tbe workers in this industry duty. On the basis of the study.' I have are poor. In such a situation it will be found that around one bundred crore bettor if you reduce the duty even further. rupees are in arrears, the cases for whicb Thla will Jead to runoi og of the factories arc pcndiol in the Courts because of which reauJarly which wilJ ultimately increase the tbe money is not beiDg recovered and dates production. of bearings are extended time and al&in. If you think tbat this system IhouJ~ bo Hal\\' I would lib to make a submiaaioD streamlined. tboD I would submit tbat ", Bstate duty .hould continue on the proper 108n of Rs. 3,000 per head by the banks ties of biS people, maybe at a' very lower but due to certain unforeseen calamitios rate. Otherwise. the system will be disrup like floods and famines, they are unabJe to ted. This tax was levied long back and on repay tbose loans in time. The result is many occasions many misgivings have been that those people have to pay compound expressed. Therefore, such taxes should interest on that amount. A person takes a continue, eveD if the recovery is Jess, 'loan of Rs. 3,000 and deposits Rs. 6,000 becautae our ide.ology has been to take more instead but even after that a sum of Rs. money from the rich. Otherwise unnecces· 7,000 to Rs. 8,000 still remains due against sary doubts and misgivings creep in. This him. I have got a list of such cases with aspect should also be kept in mind. me. I can give it to the hOD. Minister if he wants. J have received this list from You>tlave reduced tbe wealth tax also the District Magistrate. There are at least from 5 per ceet 10 2 per cent. This reduc two hundred persons who hav~ deposited tion in the wealth tax is alright. but special double the amount that they had borrowed efforts are needed to be made to find out and even then four times the Joan amount ways and means to collect wealth tax; and is still due against them. The result of all aJso to ,et tbe deta i Is of everyone's pro this is aha t the lands of those persons whom perty. This principle, of course, is correct we want to give employment, are being that the lesser the tax more the collection. auctioned and they are suffering in many That is why you have reduced the tax rate ways although tbere is a provision in tbc but a complete list of the assessees should - Civil Procedure Code tha t the amount be prepared. If you prepare a complete list • recov~red against any loan should not be of tbe property-holders and tbe persons more than double the loan amount and a who possess wealth. then even wi tb 2 per similar provision exists also in the Act cent we can collect more revenue thac we governing money lending. If five to six used to collect earlier. Therefore. you times the principa I is rec6vered it is defi should do something in this connection nitely a great injustice. There is no such also. provision in the banking system that the Joan recovery can be le~s than the amount There are two or three problems of my given or cannot exceed double the amount area. I would like to draw the attention of given as Joan. Therefore. you should make the hon. Finance Mi nister towards such a provision in the Banking Act also bankins facilities. There is a provision as has been provided in the Act governing to provide loan upto Rs. 25,000 to the money lending and other laws. Double the educated une,mployed persons so that they loan amount is recovered' from th;! poor. may be able to run their own business and Just a few days back, the hOD. Minister of may become self-reliant. But if the pro State bad .informed Ui by giving figures that cedure is not streamlined. theo we shall lakhs of rupess were due to for recovery not be able to provide benefit to the people from the poor. I would like to submit that through such a good scht. me which can help when a preson has alrcdy deposited twice or in providing employment to Jakhs of people, thrice time the amount he had taken as loaD, becausc it is being mlsused presently by howe an there then. be arrears against him? your banks and because of that we have to When industrialists are provided with loans, bear many things from tho people. Parti they do not repay double the amount. Ono cularly. the element of subsidy is the main reas on for these arrears is tha t when a cause of chaos in this scheme. My submis person becomes d~f~lter, the amount s.on is tbat if this subsidy factor is taken against him goes 011 increasing. A great out aod instead an interest·free 'oao is given, injustice is being done to th~m. I. therefore.' thoa the corruption which is rampant today draw the attention of the hon. Minister to will no more be there and tbe people will this and hope tha t be win take some $tep. let m.oney as wen as employment. The in this matter so that the poor people let syate.u will then funct ion properly. some reI fef and their lands are not auctioned. We want to give him employ.· III our area, smaIl (armers· and marli-!laJ ment so that he may earn his liveJihood farmers. ,pa.rticularly the Scheduled Castes but if his land auctiontd, his well JI a~d Scbeduled' Tti bes people, are given a . auqtioned, tben bow win be be able to (Sbrl Oirdhari La) Vyas] capitalist·view apprehend that we are movins towards communism aDd tbe earn his livelihood 1 Therefore, necessary communists are the view that we are amcDd(nent should be made in tbe relevant or' tilting towards But there is law to save tbem from the· injustice being capitalism. no remedy for such misgiving. These people meted out to tbem and also so that they should know that the reduction io the may be able to draw benefit from these prices of fertilisers bas been made in tbe schemes. interest of the small farmers and It has One thing I would' like to say about boosted the morale of the farmers. The crop insurance scheme has been en'orct!tf tbe price rise. The prices of tbe items OD which is progressive I think which you have increased taxes and freights a measure1attd have not increased in that proportion. this will check the tendency or tht;· farmers Beeing towards the ci ties. ;t l' They have ratber gone up more than double. The prices of aU the items have soared up Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, now I would so high that there is great resentment like to put forward two or three suggestions among the people. Two days back the han. before the bon. Finance Minister. Regarding Prime Minister bad said that stringent irrigation, he has explained the position in steps should be taken to check: the price detail which will benefit tbe farmers 8 lot rise, but until we do that, these boarders, but there are many backward areas in the profiteers, blaclc·rnarketeers will go on country where the irrigation facilities are tbe people. I would. therefore. tleecing negligible. In Bihar also, there are many request you to take stringent steps 500n so . backward areas for which several small that the benefits reach the masses. schemes were formulated but all tbese schemes have been lying a t the planning One submission I would like to make stage for the last 15 to 20 years. If we do about the taxtHe milJ of my area. You not pay attention to these areas. our have promised to make the funds available. dream of the farmers' upJirtment wi}] not My submission is that these funds should be fulfiHed. I would. therefore, like to be made availlble af the so tha t earliest submit that for the schemes which are the Mewar TaxtiJe l\fiJJ start func may pending at the planning stage, a final tioning. Your action in tbis will regard be decision should be taken (or their approval an act of kindness and two and a ha If Jakh at the earHest ~f,er having discussions witb they workers will be grateful to you and the State representatives and the Irrigation wi)) bless you. Minister. With these words I support the Finance Some peopJe ha ve sa id tha t we are Bill. losing faith in the Public Sector and are paying more attention towards the Private SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD Sector. I would like to tell these people (Chatra) : Mr. Deputy Sp~akert Sir. I . ri.e tbat recently on the Labour Day, our Prime to support tbe Finance Bill introduced by Minister had gone to Dhanbad and in his the bon. Finance Minister. speech at the labour colony be announced about the workers' participation in manage. It is a very progressive BjU. It does mente This anoouncement is a very pro oot present any short term policy, rath~r it gressive step which will give a thrust to propounds a long-arm policy which will ODr socialbtic· prolramme. Our Finance benefit U3 in tbe comin, years. 'Nithout Minister is anxious to tbat more capital this JODs-term policy, we cannot more and more resources should be created in abead. The Finance Minister is the our country 10 that the developmental custodian of the poor people of Iudia and programmes could be speeded up. In this theit upliftment. Therefore, be has pre connection I would like to submit to sented a well-thought Budget. We hope to the, boo. Finance MLnister tbat in our lot many benefits from this Budget. It is a Priva te Sector tbere are certain industries matter of regret tbat ou.r Opposition wbicb take the maximum money from Members hav.., expressed their reservations Goyernment but utilise tbe same io otbot· OD it. The people of our country bavina the industries and eveo thon tbey cre.t~o If '11 VAISAICBA 1&. lt07 (SAKA) gr.iai. in respect of their own indus.try. For that is beina alJowed to be washed aw., ..ample the indultries itJ DaJmia Nasar or deliberately and we are Josing tbis q'uaUty oettaiD jute mUls in Bihar w~ich take of coal due to certain corrupt officers. Tbi' crores of rupees (rom the Government by requires strict monitoring. ,bowinl losses time and aSain. ,till sbow J:osses by divertiDI tba t money (or other I would like to draw the attention of purposes. They try to black.. mail Govern the hone Minister towards one more thins. _Ill by aayina tbat they do not have Although large a"nd highly technical works ~"f1ey and as such they wi JI have to. close are being done in our public sector Units, tl;le mills. 'fbere is need to take strlngen t yet the a tmosphere in which the workeri _ad step ~1"aaiJl8t such people so that tbey have to work is not proper. The worker.' neither " ~\ .able to misutilise Government Jiving conditions are not good and tbey money nor close their iDdustries. Jive in squaJor and slum. Proper arran.e. ments have not been made for their Our public sector should earn profit. accommodation. Earlier also I had drawn Ours is a weJfare State and' work s"houJd be attention towards this aspect. In the first done for the welfare of a 11. We have seen National Coal Wage Agreement, it had that the functionipg of our public sector been provided tha t 12,000 houses wj lJ be units is not sa tisfactory. The bigh officials cons tructed bu t these" houses were not of these units lack induslriaJ experience constructed to tbat extent. Ooly 4,500 because of which these uni ts incur losses. houses were constructed. In the .tbird The senera tion of power is very essential National Coal Wage Agreement provisioB to remove the backwardness of the country for construction of 17,000 houses had been but the importance of coal is also Dot made but the work has not so far been insignificant. I would Jike to draw the started and the Agreenlcnt is going to expire attention of Government to coal·mines. If shortly. proper a tten tion is pa id towards this sector. I think we can earn much revenue from I would like to draw the attention of this indust~y. I would like to say some t·he House to the coooition of the workers. thing especia lJy about certa in areas under Our hon. Prime Minister has taken many Coal Inc:fia Ltd. In the figures given about progressive steps and has spoken about coal production, it has been stated that in many measures for the upJiftment of Bilaspur in Madhya Pradesh, coal produ~ women, but I would like to bring to his tion has been very high but that coal IS notice that the women who work in the not being utilised. Lakbs of tonnes of collieries are being thrown out of their jobs coal have been piled up there but no and it is being said tha t their posts are not arrao.ement has been made for its trans transferable and therefore there is difficulty portation. If coal is not moved from .there, in transferring them. They have been asked tben our public distribution system will be to leave the job and instead, get one of of DO use. My submiss ion is that a)ongwith their dependents posted in their places. coal production. you should pay attention This procedure was earlier adopted but a towards its transportation also. In our lot of bungling was indulged in and perSOD area bard coke was produced in B C.C.L. who had impersonated as dependents got but ;ince August 1983, its production bas the jobs. Certain shrewd persons got other. been stopped. Now-s-days in all !be appointed by paying illegal gratification. id Ie coUierit8, hard coke ovens 'Ylng tbe are Therefore, a c.:rtain approach is required idle and crores of rupees wi II have to be spent in this matter. are their repairs, whenever these collieries to recommissioned. On the one hand we Government arc very much cODcer~od arc iDc:urrinl los~es but on tbe other band, about the employment situation. I would we baVe beOD observina that tbe hard coke lite· to draw the attention of tbe hon. oYens have been rUDning Oil a larae scale Minisre·r towards the fact tbat in Bihar in tbe private sector and tb.ose peopJe are there are certain backward areas where carDiDI Ii profie of Rs. 200 to Rs. 300 J?Cr there are huge reserves of COl I and we eaG tOODO. III this .. way Gov~r~men t are bel DS lenerate large-scale employment opportu~l. clep,rjY~d ···buIO proft tl. or ties there. In Palamu and Balumath in Shur, il.our hi,hest qualit)' ;.1 but Bibar, there as bUBe coal reserves. Rail Flnanu Bil" 108S MAY.f 1985 PI,.,," Bill, 1985 (ShriYoseshwar Prasad) the coal-mine workers. Shrimati Indira Gandhi bad aiven a new directioD to tbe and road facilities are also available in task of improviol the livinl conditions and these places. If we run coal mines in those removing th.. poverty of tbe seven and a places, lakhs of peoplo. specia Jly Harijans balf lakb poor coal mine workers. The and Adivasis who are being exploited will wards of the retiring workers used to let be benefi ted and they will Ie t employment. employment, but now this scheme hal been It would definitely lead to their upliftments abandoned. I request Government and the I would urge the Finance Minister to take hon. Minister that immediate arrangement. steps for the development of these may be made to provide employment ,·to collieries. the children and dependents ,of th, retirio, workers. I would like to say one thing more. The work relating in slurry and hard coke The water problem is also there. Wells, OVens in the coal fields should be taken ponds and rivers get dried up in the rural over by Government. Everywhere there is areas and the drinking water problem also mushroonl growth of coke which is pollut arises thereby. In addition, the people these ing the atmosphere and an acute probJem are facing great difficulty in providing water of pollution is arising. The pro'b:t:m of to their cattle also. Government should pay dust spreading in the collieries should be a ttentioD towards this aspect also. tackled in a scientific manner. If proper arrangements are not made, a serious Besides, I would like to draw tbe environmental problem will be created. attention of Government towards the matter of acquisition of land. People are' I would also like to add that arrange not paid any compensation (or acquired ments for drinking water for the workers from t hem. Earlier, there was a provision shourd also be made. In the Mines Act, under which a person. whose laud was there is a provision which makes it acquired, used to get employment. 'fhere obligatory to provide 'drinking water to the is a rule in West Bengal under which a workers in the coal·mines but today the person, whose one acre of land is acquired situation in coa l·mines 18 pathetic and there. is provided with employment but in Biha; is DO arrangement for drinking water. An this limit is 3 acres. This difference is not authority was set up there with the heJp of justified. Besides, the pending cases should the Central Government but although many be disposed of immediately 80 that their years have passed, yet no work is beiDg problems could be solved. , done. Even the work which was being done . Recently, I had gone to Dhanbad. earlier has also been stopped and aD acute There I saw some extremists cutting tbe wa'ter problem has arisen tbere. road and creating bottlenecks. Coal, is used for senera ting power and it contributes a I would like to say something about lot in the production of steel also. Still drinking water. The Damodar River, which no attention bas been paid towords it. If is a source of drinking water for people the extremists are allowed to dominate ahe there, has becom: very polluted .. The slurry Dhanbad area, tbe work will not ,0 00 coal washeries flows into it and it is from smoothly and the production of steel would destroying the very beauty of the river. also go down. Government should pay Drinking water is being supplied from this attention towards it. river. The drinking water supplied from the river is so dirty tba t after taking j t, With these words I support tbe Finance 000 may fall ill. The water, which is not Bill presented by the hon. Finanee Minister fit even for takiDa bath, i~ beins utilised and express my thanks to you for aliowiD' for drinking purposes. It is causing great me to speak. I conclude. barm. Hence, the programme announced by the Hon. Prime Minister regarding . [En,/I.,h) cont 01 of pollution should be implemented Imme4iately in the coat mine areas also. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR (Hamirpur) : I IU pport the Pinanco aill 1 would 1i ke to say one thi 0, about preseD'ed to tills HQ""e by ·UlO,' bOD~ JI' .~ 'BIN, J985 VAJSAXHA l', J!J07 (SAKA) MiDister of Pioaace. As it is, it is tbe announce tbe decision reaardfa. "d. third readiDI .of the Bud.et and our financial year. It is for U8 to .ee 'what be Minister bas been pleased· to make some briDas in that packet when be comol before conoossion, aDd live some reliefs earlier t~e House. wbile makin. his speech in this House. So, U i. a wolcome measure that be bas siven a new hope to some of the bard hit The economy of tbe country bas beeo'" lectors. reaulated on a new initiative. He bas caUed bis new measures as the philosophy 'or Sir, one of the tbiDgS that I would like &atyam, shlvam, sundaram. I have my reser to appreciate in this Finance Bi1l is tbe va tioDs about it. But I would liko to .ee extension of exemption in respect of that his hopes are ultimately- realised in income,·tax to tbe residents of Ladakh. ·It practice and a n:w direction which he has was to have been over by the end of tbe tried to give ultimately results in tbis current financial year. Now, it has been concept of socialism, planDing and demo liven a further extension of three years. cracy. If these critical concepts aDd So, on behalf of those people-of tbat aesthetic ideas are translated into bard mountainous region-I think the Minister reaH ties of economic thinking. that would of Finance for giving an extension of three be good for the country. But at the years for this exemption. moment, we are faced wi th rise in prioes. Prof. Raj Krishna had said in the beginnina Secondly, he has promised to aod some of April' 85 in the course of a talk in a new sub-clauses. A new sub-clause 3(a) in seminar, that the prices were goinS to rise. Clause 15 to Section 10 of the Income .. Tax The prices have risen. Now, our Minister Act is going to be added, in respect of has also admitted that. So, the need of the interest payabJe to any foreign banks \Vbich hour is to do something to control them. are performing the central banking because, at the moment, in Delhi we are functions here provided they have deposits having a strike of three-wheelers because with the Indian nationalised banks and of of a hike in petrol prices. The gencral course this is subject to the permission to public is facing a lot of difficulty in getting be issued by the Reserve Bank of India. So. transport. What is the effect of these this is also a welcome step. Similarly.' there policies has to be seen and analysed in the has been insertion of a new clause 33 AB. day to day functioning and day to daf This is in respect of tea companies in working of the life of people and Delbi is account with NABARD. 1 welcome the index of the entire country. The people insertion of these new clauses in the are feeling the pinch. It is high time that Finance ,Bill. something could be done to reduce it. There should be some sort of an organic There bas been a radical re-structuring link: between what we propound in tbis of taxation since 1963 when the two Boards House and what we expect to happeD .for Direct and Indirect Taxes were set up. outside, because we are not talking in a Since then various reforms have been going vacuum. I suppose, the Finance Minister OD. They are in t.he right direction. We would understand tbat with the rise in prices need not reply to the criticisms from of petrol, tbe genera) public is bound to various quarters. SOlnebody is saying tbat (eel the pinch because the people who ply tbe Finance Mioister speaks in the ,Iaoluage three wheelers and taxis generally start ,of tbe Jeft and moves in tbe direction of the over-charging or try to pres8uriae the ri.ht and so 00 and so forth. These are people. or tbe Government. When you certain observations borDe out of percep increase tbe price of petrol, there should tionl whicb are not in tuoe with the indepth be concomitant increase in the fare a180. .tudy of the Budget. ACter all, the people· who ply three wbeelers are not richer sections of society. At the The Pi08Dce Minister has varIous moment, we are bavins acute Iho:l"ta,. of mo·.sures in mind. He bas given promiso transport in Delhi because. 01 this .trike to Lbo country of a comprehensive fiscal and tbe consequen t inconvenience to tbe policy to be announced in tbe month of people and to tbose who ply these vebtclca .• 8ept, ..ber., Perhaps, at cbat time, he would Tbis 8houJd be looked in to. l'iIUIrIM BlU~ 198.5 MA Y ,I, ,1985: ..,.1II1L1P85 3&8 [prof. ,Narain Chand Parasbar] There is one point that I wou'td 'brift. . The Fi_nee Minister bas withdrawn to the notice. of the hon. MiD:ister. Our some concessions liven to tbe publishers. Minister for Finance and his ,Minister of State appreciative of the demands of The pubJisbiol trade bas been hit bard. are the bill St'a tes, but they allow tbe special ilecelltly I received a reply from the hill a Howance to Central Government Fioancc Minister to my letter saying, employe~s onJy at a certain altitude. They ·'Wen. tbis provision bas been mainly give it at Simla which is 6,000 metres above misused earlier and it has been only helping mean sea ]evel but they refuse to give it at the' well-established publishing firms and places which are beyond Shimla with heilht publishing houses; and therefore, the better wa, would be to give direct aid or subsidy less than 1000 metres. Althouah the ahitude may not be 1,000 metres,' the place may be to new publishing houses or to new enrre prcneurs in the field of publishing". But located on the bank of river Sutlej, and the prices are higher. It is a more remote it is unfortunate and it must be understood that the new publishing trade and the new area. It is an area which is inaccessible. This will be clear from the very fact that entrepreneurs will take time to conle up whereas the old publishing houses will the three Assembly constituencies which are locatt:d beyond Simla. are going to the refuse to publish the books of poor scholars polls on 26th of May. They cannot march who are already hit hard in this country. in tune with the rest of tbe country. The So, I woutd plead with him to reconsider his views in this regard because India is entire parliamentary constituency of Mandi already a country having mass illiteracy is baving election on the 25th of May. You aDd there is not much scope of scholarship would give lllowance Clnly at a certain beret Many authors die without getting fixed alti tude, above 1,000 metres or at t}M,ir work published because no publisher least J ,000 metres, but there are places Is available and the Government agencies which are far beyond. So, what I would which are responsible for publication of plead is that since the Planning Commission thesc works, are also not very large accepted the idea or the concept of the hill establishments. Therefore. any incentives area by a resolution of the National Deve- or any concessions which have been given • lopment Council in March 1965, why not extend this benefit of hill allowance or to the publishing trade earlier t ~houJd be special hill allowance to all those areas conti nued. If you are not going tQ give them any relaKation. well, you can at least which were accepted by the Fjnance Com think of tbe extension of those which are mission about twenty years ago? They are . continuing. India has a large number of not new creations ... (Interruptions) . languages. The Minister for Information and Broadcasting told us one day here in PROF. N.G. RANGA: What about Lot Sabha 'in reply to a ques tion that rad io the North-Eastern States '1 programmes are broadcast in as many as 142 languages, but books cannot be PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR. : 'Published in aU those languages. The They are covered. By the resolution of the Constitution accepts only 1 S or 16 National Development Council, the Pfan langulles 8nd the Sahitya Academy adds ning Commission accepted certllin States aDother eight or so. So, total 23 or 24 as hill areas and tbey generally cover them recolnlsed languages are there. Any person under the special category States. Of who writes a books in a language other course. slight modifications can be made. thaD tbese. must be able to publish it him. There is no grouse about that. But when lelf, bear the entire cost as he would not you live tbem 90 per cent srant and club 8nd a publisher. So, there is a case for them under tbe title of special categorf cousiderina the hardships caused to the States, they are in for a special treatment "ublistiing trade by tbe withdrawal of the in the matter of planniDa. The Central cOnCdsslbn which had been incorpora ted by Government employee, who are workins tbe" :Pinancc Minister in this Budget and there, feel disappointed that their State wblcb"bas been taken away_ Until a new counterparts enjoy Jarge allowances, t~ey ScbetDe of subsidy is annnuDced and imple draw more fat salaries than the Central 'metned~ this should be continued. That is .(Jovernment employees. Tbere wa,! a tiD.1e my plea. when the Central Go~efDment emploieO' ...... ~ FInanCl Bill, 198$ . us~d·to·be tbe envy of the State Govern in one State alone more than one bundred· : ment employees. branche& used to be opened in every circle in every year" of the Plan. So, this is tho . The wheel bas turned full circle now effect of your ban on new recruitment. You and it is the State Government employees refuse to open even a branch post office' who are the envy of the Central Govern .. where the entire work is for two hours. and ment employees. So, what bas happened? not much money is to be spent because U i:.very Government employee who is posted is a part time job. You say, he is Dot • in Himachal Pradesh or Ladakh or some.. government employee. You say, since it il where in Arunachal Pradesh or MegbaJaya a government subsidy, we refuse. The relu1t and Mizoram would try for transfer is that it has caused deep gloom in inacces immediately to Delhi or other big citits sible and remote areas resultins in tho through pull or push whatever you call it deterioration of services and creatios fru. and he ~iJl be able to manage it, with the tration amoDg the em·ployees. There i. result that we have constant instability in additional workload but no additional administration. It is in a state of Bux incent ives. There is no recruitment. Even because no senior officer would like to go people who are promoted. their vacancies there because of distance, because of poor ate not filled up. People who have been emoluments, becc;use of Jarger costs and given training, they are waiting (or ODe because of tbe inconvenient conditions of year, but they have not been appointed so Jiving there. Therefore. here is tbe case far. For what is the training then? AJI that I want to bring to your notice. this is because the Ministry of Finance in its wisdom has thought tbai by regula Un, The most important case is the ban on the non-plan p.xoenditure and by reduciDI recruitment of new posts and 6J1ing up of the size of the Plan expenditure. they are existing vacancies. You think tbat by a ble to keep the economy well on ita imposing this ban you are regulating the wheels. This is no way of managins the economy of the country as if you are doing economy. You consult your administrative it in a paradise. Ministries and find out their reactions. You say, you give exemptions in individual PROF. N.O. RANOA: We want to cases. How many individual cases can be economise. processed by your Ministry which is so fait that according to one Professor of tbe PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR : Bangalore University it takes 289 days for You know your needs. are expanding. While one file to be processed? This is the earlier there were three telephone exchanges, research finding of the bureaucratic func there are five now, but you are refusing to tioning in India. When these things hap.pea increase that staff strength. 50, what has like this, the common man in the villale happened? One line man who would feels the pinch. So .. I plead with you to operate ODe telephone exchange, to look reconsider your concept of the ban and after its repairs .and functioning has now to think in terms of efficiency, in terms of Ua. rUD about in five places. You are gettin_; norma) functioning. more money through larger number of SlJ;, cribers. You are earning more. but you PROF. N.G. RANOA: You sbould are refusiog to spend. What is this logic, say in regard to commercial services. I do not understand. When you arc earning . more money by Biving more telephone PROP. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR,·: connections, you must be able to provide Yes, in regard to commercial service•• 10 more perSODS for ·se~vice, for monitoring tha t something can happen and subscdben, and for· maintenance. The result of tbis can let a better dc"al for the jovestDJCIDt that ban. i. that there i. a s'harp deterioration in they are making. When you are reQeiviOl telecommunication services. There is a sharp money from bim in tbe form of dopoeita., deterioration i.ll other .acdvities which are or payments for the Ser\li~8, bo mUIt al.., , reqtili:red. 10 tbis wonderful country in the be assured of better services at 1.... t.· if Jlot, .. . ent.i're ODe year the Minister for Communl better than the normal services. Or .. i •.1 _, caU,.•. Mr. ·Mildh. told us lbat only 62 that we are goinl to have tbll -.pee&.), ~ ... branch poet ..... have been·open·ed. ",bereEts·· that deterioration· in services in 1986 f. 3ft ~ Bil, 1985 {Prof. Narain Chand Patashar] also In tbe nature of allotment in eacb . . one of the project.. There i. tbe 'WaY that going to be sharper than what it was in through a regulated economy and .hrough 1985 and tbat it has to be still sharper tban wise control we would be abJe' to live a what it was in 1984 and ~o OD and so forth. better shape to .•he national economy a So, we are moving OD to the Seventh Five better hope to tbe nation in the days to Year Plan and we are goina down in our come. Thank you. efficiency. Thcerefore, I would plead tbat this ma Uer should be reconsidered in the DR. P. VALLAL PBRUMAN. interest of efficiency and better services. (Chidambaram): Mr. DeputY-SPeaker, Sir, givins Similarly there are certain things which I thaok you very much for tlle this opportunity to say a few wordi on (he require a word of appreciation. This crop Final'ce Bill. 1985.86. insurance scheme is something which has to be appreciated. The Finance Minister bas been right in saying that the vagaries . The Finance Bill is the most potent Instrument for usbering in the era of of weather should not spoil the fortunes 011 Earth. When the farmer loses his crops, he economic reforms. The credit for intro.. does not get anything whereas the factory ducing such a Finance Bill goes to our hon. Finance Minister who has in fact owner, if he (Deets with an accident, be h~raJded a new economic order with his very first gets a compensation. So, the farmer is Finance Bill. entitled to refife at the hands of the State. At least the farmer is not the step son of the soil. He is as good citizen of this We should be proud of ourseJves because country as the owner of a factory or a India is perhaps the only country which businessman is. Therefore, I would plead has generated resouroes to the extent of 93 with you the case of the farmer and say per cent for its development. The country that this should be processed at an early is now producing 151,5 million tonnes of date. foodgrains in sharp contrast to the situation in 1966 whee India was going around the Similarly, I would also plead that our world for the import of foodgrains. Finance Minister should take a total view of the economy. It is not thaI we have Some prophets of doom have started only a fiodDciaJ approach. When you think harping on sudden spurt in prices. This of the total economic picture of the price risc is a seasonal factor. The fuJI country, you should not reduce the invest .. impact of 1985·86 budget is yet to be felt. ments on new railway lines or which are I would take this opportunity to SU8Best on .. going projects. It is not fair because that speciaJ courts should be set up to try ultimately tbe bac~ward areas of the country tax evaders. There should be no 15 days' have also to be brought up to a certain grace for declaration of assets by those level with. the rest of the country. So, I whose premises had been raided by tax would plead with you that all the oli"going men. AJJ Joan Jtransactions above Rs. 10,000 projects should not be subjects to any cuts must be through cheques only. Those and kindly keep the 1984-85 budget in caught contravening this rule twice should view and restore aU the cuts that you have be sent to jail for six months to seven put on various on·goiog projects. The years. While I apprecia te tba t the Centre welcome move to allow the public sector has to be liberal in extending financial undertakings to raise resources through assistance to States wit.h chronic drouabt. loaDS for telecommunications and Power the same approach i8 not necessary toward. sbould be extended to Rai(ways for new States wa1Jowina in financial mismana.e. Railway lines especiaJ Iy for the oD-soini ment. Similarly, we cannot aft'ord to forlet projects. I lay this (or all the State. whp that pubJic sector industries alone bad have been subject to cuts in respect of tbeir beeD responsible for the main tbru,t of • on-lOins projects. At last you are going to industrialisation in the country a. it i. l'Iot cotor into tbe Seventh Five-Year Plao; let motivated by tbe profit otientatioa 01 it Dot be Jower than the Seventh Five-Year L'rivate industry. II j, lime for u. to atop PlaD DOt. only in size and the volutne, but d~hi.ratiD8 the .public ."'or iDd.(ria~ 394 The private sector industries are alway. State Governments are vio)atins tbe licen cryiDI wolf, wolf. While majority of private sing provisions with impunity. The UnioD .ector industries survive or credit (acilities Government i. a silent spectator of the to the tune of 90 per cent from public increasing incidents of diversion of alcohol scctor financial institutions, they do not for potable purposes. In the annual meetiol hesitate to uodermio the interests of public of the Central Molasses Board, the Minister sector industries. I suggest that tbe repre for Chemicals and Fertilisers has stated sentatives of public sector financial insti that in 1976 .. 77 industrjal aJcohoJ accounted tu ions on the Boards of Management of for more tban 60% of the total alcohol ptivate sector units should be more effective production; in 1983.84, however, this came and energetic in looking into the financial down to as low as 460/0' in 1984 .. 85, it manal~lMt1t of such units. Tney are the seems to have gone below 3S'Yo Tbough guardians· of public money in these insti- the hon. Mi nister Shri Veerendra PatiJ tutions. states tbat diversion of alcohol would amount to a violation of the provisions of Secondly. I woul" suggest lhat the non the Industrial (Devel'Opment and Regula plan expenditure must be cut down heavily. tion) Act, yet no penal actiou is initiated There should be a moratorium for two against such people who indulge in this. years on unwarranted non-plan expendi ture. I would suggest even reviving the E1Cpendi The State Governments seem to rely ture Commission for this purpose. more and more on growing revenue from liquor. The economy of our St ales seems Thirdly. there should be strict adherence [0 'be based on quick-buck from liquor. to the schedule of work undertaken in Near tbe school, adjacent to temple, church. public sector industrial project s. Unneces,:, mosque, close to factories and cinema sary delay leads to escalation in costs. The halls, you will find arrack shops and wine public sectot projects must be completed on shops in our towns and cities. The Govern .. time. ment of India talks about uplifting the people above poverty Hne but more and Tax arrears running to thousand crores more people are taking to liquor, i.e. should be recovered on war footing basis. country liquor. The Government declares Tax: avoidance and tax evasion should be that there will be ba1anced industrial dealt wi tb severely. I had suggested earlier growth in country; unfortunately, there is balanced growth of liquor trade in tbe certain steps in this direction. country. There should be very strict control on The alcohol-based industries are on thee inventories in public sector industrial pro verge of b!l ng exte rrninated. We do DO jects. We cannot aHow huge sums to get have a national poricy on alcohol. The bJocked i'n unnecessary inventories. hon. Minister of Finance is aware of the progress made io Western countries for I would now refer to an area where using a 'cohol as' an a Iterna rive source or the Government should formulate a clear energy. I ucderstaod that in BraziJ 10 cut national policy. 1 mean, the national lakbs of cars are run on alcoho). AJcohol policy on alcohol. I would refer to article has become a primary ra w rna teria) for 47 of the Constitution of India which says: many industries in We8tern countries. In 'India, we have' not made any significant "The State shall endeavour to briol progress in this direction. There is 8 about prohibition of the consump pioneering styrene butadene rubber manu tion, except for medicinal purposes, facturing unit in BareiJly. U.P. This was of intoxicating drinks and of drugs set up by ~ne of the Congress stalwart8, Shri which are injurious to bealth. t. Tulsidas KhiJachaod on the understand;D, tha t tbe en tire alcohol reqtdrement of 'hi' Unfortunately. tbe State is endeavouriol unit would be met. This solemn assurance to ·encourage tbe consumption of liquor. was given by Shri Govind Ballabh Pant. As per the dec,lared policy, si nee 1975 Today this unit ;s starved of alcohol. Pr(). Ucecces caD ,be live~ for production of U.P.• alcohol goes c~ West DenIal and Dot alc:oho·1 ont,)' 'for in~ustrial pu.rpoles. The to this unit located in U.P. 'II-' \ MAY ,8. 1985 ~ •• J)85 [Dr. P. Vanal Peruman1 Ifeat confidence we .hou,Jd emuJate the example of Brazil in produciDI morc It is really ironical tba t the Government quantities of atlcohol whicb bas sreat 'i, has been forced to import industrial aJcohol " potential (or revoJutionisiDI the industrial after exporting molasses about a few scene. There shouJd be total ban on divert months ago. Wbile lbe Governmellt allows ing alcohol to distilleries in pussuance of duty.free imports of industrial alcohol by tbe D.irecti.ve Principles of State PoUc)' as actual users, I do not kllow any valid enshrlDed 10 our Constitutioo. realon why butadene required for producing synthetic rubber should not be . ~n conclusion, I request the bo~'.~ aJJowed duty-free import for the actual Minister for total prohibition 'ao ..... , ' t't N' , t ~ 10 10 users. Similarly, while natural tubber is cons J ute a atlonal Alcobol POli~y.. ,', free Clom all taxes, the synthetic rubber . ,i, ~ l.. , made out of industrial alcohol. which is an LTran.s!ationJ agricultural product coming from sugarcane, is subjected to very heavy taxes. Our Finance SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL (Phulpur) : Minjster knows about the problems of Mr. D~puty Speaker, Sir, wbiJe supportinl Synthetics and Chemicals Factory at Bareilly. t~e Finance Bill introdued by the hOD He sbould order tbe import of butadene FInance Minister I would like to put tw~ or three SUBBesti onsr free of all duties, in the interest of survival of this unit located in the backward area. The hon. Minister bas presented the The Governmet should gradually reduce budget with great care and foresight and the consumption of liquor by strictly every effort has been mc.de in it to live implementing the Industries (Development ~enetit .lO the people of the country. The and Regulation) Act and by issuing licences n.on. FInance ~iinister deserves congratula for production of alcohol only for tions f~r ann~uDcinB concessions in taxes industrial purposes. Presently, the State o~ ~anous Items. So far as the prico Governments find that the potable liquor is r1s;e IS concer~ed, he has admitted tbat the among their major sources of revenue. The pnces have IDcreased considerabJy in the markets. I would like to know from lh Centre should compeD~ate the loss on h M" e account of prohibition by giving lOO [Shri Ram Pujan Pa te 1] because '''0 ko,ow that :our basic economic policy is based ·OQ m·iKed economy io'wbicb have als~ become tbe capitalists. If an we have to work for tbo deve·Jopmcat. of inquiry is instituted in their caseI then we find that there would be 60 to 70 per cent the private sector. tbe public sector aDd of officials who are multi ImilJjonaires. the Cooperative S;!ctor we are also movina Tbere should be a cbeck on them beeause in this direction and it is essential also. . the administration does not run only on figures. We shall have to see whether the libc roason for the confusion -is that farmers are getting the amount meant for 8ft~r presentation of the Budget riabtiSCI them or not. I do hope that you wiU enact like Nani Palkbiwala have praised'11bo laws for the upJirtment of the poor, the budget, when Nani Palkhi.... who ill" supporter of Swatantra' Panp'fl)B.. policy. landless and the Harijans of this b~g country in the same way as you have praised the Budget, people thoaWbbdiat by benefited the farmers and the landless presenting this budget the Govenatn_ were Harijans of Uttar Pradesh by enacting laws shifting from the Centre to tbe right and givil1g up the leftist approach and that the in their favour. policies of Pandit Jawabar Lal Nehru and With these words I express my thanks Shrimati Indira Gandhj bad been dropped. The industrial and trade organisations like to you and hope that you would pay the FICeI have a Iso staned praising tbis attention to suggestions. budget. They have welcomed it. Of course. the private sector should get an opportunity SHRI UMA KANT MISHRA to work for the development of the count yr. (Mirzapur) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, To that extent it is welcome. But the I rise to support the Finance Bi'll. We had oppoc;itioD parties have been saying lbat supported the Budget earl ier also when it since the capitalists of the country are was presented in the House and a general praising the budget so this is a capitalists' discussion was held on it. We had budget. They are also saying that tbis welcomed this Budget very much at that Budget does not belong (0 the poor, tbe time and even toJay I say that this Budget farmers and the common man. The people deserves OUf, appreciation. There are some have neither gone through the Budget more measures which ha ve been incorpora ted in care to know its aim. When the indus the Budget for th~ development of the back tria Jists pTa ised tbe Budget, they sajd that ward areas of the country and for speeding this Budget belonged to the indusrrialists up its economic development. These measures and when Nani Palkbiwala praised it. tbey were necessary also. With the presentation said tha t it was a rightist Budget based on of this budget, we think we have not the policies of the Swatantra Party. This deviated from our basic economic policy. provoked tbe people of the country. Our bon. Finance Minister as well as Hon. Prime Minister have repeatedly said that we believe in mined economy and are shall I have read an article written by him work for the development of aU the thr~e in which he has said that the mainstay of sector, I.e. the private sector, the pubJic the economic system of the country is the sector and tbe ClJoperative Sector. This is private sector and, tax should also be levied our basic policy which had been formulated on tbe agriculturists. We are against it. , by Shri .Jawabar Lal Nehru and takeD No tax should be levied or the 8lticul forwards by Sbrimati Indira Gandhi. But turists. He says that tax should also be a confusion is beiog created in the country le"ied on tbe agricultural sector. It be in a big way that tbe Budget. which has praises the Budget, the people lay tbat it been presented this years. is rightist in is inspired by his views. In fact the people character and our economic policy is moving have not appreciated the lood aspects of from the Centre towards right and our the budget. A general feeling baa been hon. Finance Minister wants to shift our created amoDI tbe people that tbe bud,.t economic policy from the Centre to tbe presented by the bon. Finance Minister is riahl. This confusion is being created in a risbtist Bud.et and is anti·poor. alth.Jup the couotry and a wrong kind of pro o·ur bon. Prime Minister bas refuted it at paganda is being carried 00. We have to the massige raHiel and in A.I.C.C. counter tbis confusion and prop_aanda Dl"ctinp. The hone Finance NiD.ilMr~ .. .110 eaplaiDed II la degU C.t •• •• caD. But tbi, i. Dot true fa rbe 'ct.. Of felloWi .. the eoo..olDlc policy at eDuDcia·Nd tIN. Budaet tbere is .DO ."'lth, fa .ft.., It7 PaDdit Jawabar Lal Nehru aad. tate. Iotward by ladirajl. It II true lbat it II • (1"'.""1',10118) SociaUlt Budlct. We are our tatt.,. .0aolD, As I have submitted earller al.o, t,ll. f. ill tbat very directioD. a locialiltic Bud,et and people's budpt. Thil Bud,et is production-oriented' and • We bad laid tbat aDieu you adopted a pro,fessive one. But when Nani Palkbiwala. ' J.iberal view towards the private seclor aDd tbe PICCI and all other bi. industrialJt. a.· .pvo eacour.aement to It, aeitber tbe pro. well .s the rightists praised the budaet. duction would lucreatO Dor would tb. then this propoganda was liven wide .. backward a rea. of the COUDtry be de'feJoped publicity that it was a traders' budlet. TIlt ..peditjoueJy. It il our bale policy to traders indu.sed in profiteering by increas· . develop the bactwlrd areal expeditiouII,. iD, the prices of those commodities in So the seDeral tbi, Bud.- reBect. tbe where this increase io price was Dot necet bopea aDd aspirations of tbe commOD maD sitated. The prices of salt. oil, cloth, .ad ", aDd hence tbi. "..utllt hal to be welCOlDld. Van.spati al80 started increasinl. 1be '. prices of tbose items on which DO duties Altboulb we welcome tbe Bud,et It f. were levied have also shot up. Tbis bal lurpriainl that in spite of its beina a 100d caused concern. So my submjs~ioD is tbat Budaet. tbe prices in tbe country bave rilen efforts should be made to removo this sharply. The hon~ Pinance Minister bad impression from the minds of the people Ita ted in detail' the otber clay tbat tbe tbat this is a traders budget (1""".tltHI').. Budlet wal Dot reaponaible for the increale iD Prices iD tbe country. We belona to villa•• 18.00 Ian. and travel in buses aDd visit tbe villalcs. It i. my personal view and it is a feellna I would Uke to urge that the jacreale, amonl the people also that tbe prices 01 iD prices should be checked. I firmly believe artic'es have increased know in comparisoD tbat the prices have not increased due to' to taxes and excise duties whicb bave beeD the Budget. Thi. increase is due. to tbe COD. levied. If the increale in tbe prices wouJd fusioD created by the peopJe. These people have been in proportion to the taxes which SjUiD, on that side have a band in creating bave been levied, It would not have created such con fusi OD and impression. The aD), bad effect, beca use everyone knows opposition publicised this view that this is tbat tbe prices win rile in tbat proportion. a Capitalist', budaet and not a people', But the price rise bal beeD three times budget. Sucb propaganda as we)) as praiaea more tban the talea and the excise duties sbowned by tbe ri,btists have belped in levied. Besides, the prices of thOle articles increasinl the prices. This is a wroua blve also increased on whicb no taxes aDd impression. In the end, I shall conclude by neise duties have been levied. There wal liviDlsomo luuestioDs. DO justification for sucb increaso io tbelt prices. This bas caused concern. Strict measures shouJd be adopted to . cbeck tbe rise in prices. Our hOD. Prime There is DO doubt and you had also Minister and the bon. Finance Mjnister .tated the other day thai tbe Budget was bave not deviated from the basic economic respoDsible for only ODe or two per ceDt policies. This budget is a sociaJistic, pro Increase in tbe prices. The Budget is not gressive, production-oriented, budget as reapoDlib(e for aDY increale beyond this also a budget aimed at people' welfare, but lovel. Tbe realOD for tbe areater increase by 8uliestioD is that drastic steps should ia the prices is tbe se.sobal factor. What be taken to curb price ri8~. I want to 18, is tbat tbe prices do Dot iacreue 10 sbarpby aD account of tbe The Seventh Five Year Plan is going to leasonal factor. I think thero il a pay commence and at preseot there is tbe choJ01 icaI tactor workiol behind ft. i.e., acute problem of drinkinl water is every •.peop:Je tblak that tbis Bud.,t boloDp State aQd in every region. We are at a 8:1 to .. tradia. commuDity aDd tbe profiteer. bow to SOlve the problem and satisfy tbe .. oae abou14 ear1l ,1 '\l~' prof! t •• ~ poopl~ •. It i, pot .a If only a ro. di.U'~ctl,. " 'If:'~" ,I 1"l*!I'f' !' "C',' '. '" !f • , ~' f I ftIft'a; " ,.p;t JI' :" , , "btl U,ma K.aDt Mishra) _.re of tt., po".r :,aituatioD : ,.ry, 'oIoself,J Of ,rcliolll aN facio, water "aminc. Toda:,~, Ah'heuah tile ".aUoatiou: '. 'he ..me ihr ·UtI' vast relionl in cv~r)' state are facinl acute eDtire .COObtr¥~ yet· tbe ~"'e' of V.t. water sbort_lc. I wouid therefore. like to Pt-ade&h' are tufferioi the most. SO 10lIl.1 .: 1¥.I,.e AOD. Pinance Mi,oiSle"r through the Ble,etr#eit, Boards ,continue to exist a. a:, ,~. Ilr, t.o i~vatjabl)' make provi,sioD ,to white elephants, 'tbe situatioD in tbe power . •• )~ ,t_. drinldn. w~J,ter problcDl ,in ~ front cannot be improved 8 t the State level. ~tb Pive Year Plan. If prunina ii, All tbe ,cent,raJ uDdor-ti.kinas Udder, tbe ~Ua'.d. tbec it can be' done in o~h~ UDioD GoveroDleQt.&re working well, ba~· U•• but ~Ieao potable water sbouJd be the' ~Iectricj ty JJoards of tho St. te are p~r: ~pYided to all tbe people in the villages of workins ,well ".Ileitber j,a t11';:.,,8 tecr ,:':t;;.C' '. entire c»-uotry. This is my submission. p~wc~ 4IOIletatioa Dor in the' .:»Ri~,.I~,: ,d.i~~,'"'' tpbutJon of power.. So ~ s~~IW(11.pa If.' M, DC~t IUllcstioo is resardina, t~e that the St. tel sbould be asked ,to w,lJ1d up, f&l1DCrl. You bave p,Iesented, a vcry lood their Power Boards and constju~te"l·.mall ....et aQd liven many concessions to the Power Boardl~ in every divison'wbicb,8bo.~ld' farqaer •• but tbe farmers are not aetting,' be fCl'ponsible~ for tbe gencration as well'al. fade price f()f their produce. The support tbe distribution of electricity, Unless the price •• b",n declared. But you may 10 powc;r situation in our country improves, to abe viti_lea ,and see the situation for your tbe dream of development' in' tbe country, stlf.. Tlaouah tbe support price for wheat the dream of Shri 'Rajiv Gandhi to take the has bean cleelared as Rs. 157 per quintal yet country to the 21st Centuary and the dreaQl whoal purcbaM CCQ,trcs bave Dot been open(~ of increasin,8 production and the programme iD tbe villages, with the result that the 'put, forward before, tb,~ country will Dot "bania tt is purchasing wheat at the r~lte of sijcceed. While supporting tbe Bud,et,. Ra. lIS aod Rs. 120 per quintal and in this I. WQ,uJd, like to mention qnly one more, way tbo pIloducc of tbe farm~rB is being point. loki at tbrowaway prices. I would. tbe.re fore a like to sugsest that arrangements You have provided facilities to thc' .IIoaJd be made to provide tbe farmers wi th Private Sector. Wben tbey got Jicences, fan price for their produce. they set up industries. wherever they like. I would like to suggest that with a view.. to In the end, I would like to say that briD8jD~ about balanced development of o,ur today tbe work of tbe land distribution to country, industries should be set up only in tbo poor under the 20.. Point Programme of thOBe, regioDs wbich, are backward. I wop.]" Sbrimati Indira Gandhi is lying standstill. like to suasest tbat whenever an entreprcncQt, It land· distribution work is not under i&"liven licence, he should be told in unambi .. taken to rehabilitate the tribals and the guous terDl~ tbat he wiJl have to ~et up tho HatiJanl in asriculturc, then discontent industry in the backward region. backward ment will prevail among them. Besides the t~h$jl or ~ckward districts and if thi.~ iJ~ IR.DP, tbe work of land distrjbution for not 4pne, theD the licence will be caocelJ~d.., tile economic upJiftment of the rural Shri BirJaji has been given licence to se't Up., ma.lea is vcry essentiaJ. This is a part of a carbon black factory in Mirzapur 'but he the 2O-Point Programme and this work wants to esla bUsh it in pjmpri. He should should, be taken up furtber. be told tbat Mirzapur is a very backward. region and hence tbe factory must be set. ~ , iQ Mirzapur proper or in Mirzapqr Te:bsU;,. My I~st poiot is regarding power. Power is an important prerequisi te for the This will belp in tbe development, i~ tb.$.· development of a country whetber it in the area. With these words I convey my tba'Q~.· field of' agriculture or industry or for to tbe HOD. Prime Minister and tbo bon~,' Finance MInister and support tbe Pinapc.;e ( li,btID, p~rposes power is synonymous to BU,. detelopmeDt. Power Is progress and in the .! _rds Of StaiiD. Power is the second name 01 socialism. But in our eountry tbe [,En,llshl .,rqblem of electricity is very acute. 'the PROF. SAIPUDDIN SOZ (BarIUllUUa),:;; power situation is calMing CODcerD. As I Sir. I wal ealled upon to apeak' lomedm., 111,,0 "OQ o1e9tod frOtO Uuar' Pladesh. I:am. baok. II am lorr)' I wa., oot pr"" to"dMM YAISAKIL\ '1, I"" (S.4K"f) Bouie at ,bat t,lme. I have to .eek a into Pakiitla. Alaios' a total capacity of clari8catioD from tbe hOD. Miai.ter. I WID't 15.000 mepwatt. our harnClsed capacity f. to toow .hetber tbe bOD. Mioi.ter would ooly about 200 meal"att. I would tbore Ipply hia mind aad examine fe,ioDl1 im· tore request the iotellipnt Pinaacc Mini. tor balance io the couotry iD 10' for .1 indUitry kindly to appJy his mind in this rei peel il concerned. I wanted to brio, this fact and belp tbe Jammu aDd ICishmir State• . to hi. DOliee. I do not speat a. a politician c.eDUaUy tbis time. PlaoDin. il .ometbin. THB MINISTER OF flNANCB different aod ultimate I, tbe Finance Minil'ler (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): .~ould apply bi. mind iD relard ro re,ioDII 10 my reply to the debate, I will cllrif, irCtbalance. There are Ministers who nut. this. point. tbeir own ·,con8tituencies. Therefore. I want to brl~ .~~' ili's notice that durin, tbe la.t 30 yeat' "Of 10. a .um of RI. 25,550 crores 18.tO brs. hal b 'e~D spoat on pubJ ie .ector. Tbe .bare n. Lok Sabha 1M" adjtJll,,,ed 1I11 of Jammu and Kashmir il very low, Eleve" O'Clock on Thu"day, May 9, 1985/ abysimaJly Jow. We need rai Iway lines aad water in the State are wastefully runniDS Yal,akha 19, J 901 (Saka).