Formal Minutes of the Committee on Exiting the European Union, 2017–19

Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 1

Wednesday 13 September

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair1

Joanna Cherry Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Pat McFadden Richard Graham Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Peter Grant Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Mr John Whittingdale Stephen Kinnock Hywel Williams Andrea Jenkyns Sammy Wilson Jeremy Lefroy

1. Declarations of interests

Members disclosed their interests, in accordance with the resolution of the House of 13 July 1992. (For details of declarations of interests, see Appendix.) 2. Appointment of Sub-Committee Ordered, That a Sub-Committee be appointed. Ordered, That all members of the Committee be members of the Sub-Committee. 3. Committee working methods The Committee considered this matter. Resolved, That the Committee examine witnesses in public, except where it otherwise orders. Resolved, That witnesses who submit written evidence to the Committee be authorised to publish it on their own account in accordance with Standing Order No. 135, subject always to the discretion of the Chair or where the Committee otherwise orders. Resolved, That the Committee not consider individual cases. Ordered, That Mr John Whittingdale take the Chair of the Committee, if present, in the absence of the Chair. 4. Administrative arrangements The Committee considered this matter.

1 Elected by the House (Standing Order No. 122B) 12 July 2017, see Votes and Proceedings 12 July 2017

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5. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill and into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal. Resolved, That the Committee visit Brussels, Dover, Northern Ireland, Cambridge, Paris and Berlin in connection with its inquiry into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal. [Adjourned till Wednesday 11 October at 9.00 am

Wednesday 11 October

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Craig Mackinlay Joanna Cherry Seema Malhotra Mr Christopher Chope Mr Pat McFadden Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Stephen Timms Richard Graham Mr John Whittingdale Peter Grant Hywel Williams Wera Hobhouse Sammy Wilson Stephen Kinnock

1. Declarations of interests

Mr Peter Bone and Mr Christopher Chope disclosed their interests, in accordance with the resolution of the House of 13 July 1992. (For details of declarations of interests, see Appendix.) 2. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 3. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Ordered, That the written evidence relating to this inquiry submitted by Sir Stephen Laws (EUB0004) be reported to the House for publication on the internet. Sir Stephen Laws, Former First Parliamentary Counsel, Sir Konrad Schiemann, Former judge, Court of Justice of the European Union and the Court of Appeal, Dr Charlotte O'Brien, Senior Lecturer, York Law School, and Professor Richard Ekins, Head of Policy Exchange's Judicial Power Project and Associate Professor, University of Oxford gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 17 October at 9.30 am

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Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Wera Hobhouse Joanna Cherry Stephen Kinnock Mr Christopher Chope Jeremy Lefroy Stephen Crabb Mr Pat McFadden Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Mr John Whittingdale Peter Grant Hywel Williams

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Laura Dunlop QC, Convenor of the Faculty of Advocates Law Reform Committee, Dr Jo Hunt, School of Law and Politics, Cardiff University, and Dr Kamala Dawar, UK Trade Policy Observatory, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 18 October at 9.00 am

Wednesday 18 October

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Mr Jonathan Djanogly Seema Malhotra Richard Graham Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Peter Grant Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Andrew Bryce, Co-Chair Brexit Task Force, UK Environmental Law Association, Professor Alan Neal, University of Warwick, Steve Elliot, Chief Executive, Chemical Industries Association, and Caroline Normand, Director of Policy, Which?, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 25 October at 9.00 am

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Thursday 19 October

The Chair, Stephen Crabb, Peter Grant, Wera Hobhouse, Stephen Kinnock, Jeremy Lefroy, Mr Pat McFadden, Stephen Timms and John Whittingdale visited Dover in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 13 September.

Wednesday 25 October

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Hywel Williams Wera Hobhouse Sammy Wilson Stephen Kinnock

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. The progress of the UK’s negotiations for EU withdrawal Rt Hon David Davis MP, Secretary of State, Department for Exiting the European Union, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Thursday 26 October at 12.45 am

Thursday 26 October

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Stephen Kinnock Joanna Cherry Jeremy Lefroy Mr Christopher Chope Mr Pat McFadden Mr Jonathan Djanogly Seema Malhotra Peter Grant Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Sammy Wilson

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The Committee considered this matter. 2. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Steve Baker MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, and Robin Walker MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Exiting the European Union, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 1 November at 9.00 am

Wednesday 1 November

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Mr Pat McFadden Joanna Cherry Craig Mackinlay Mr Christopher Chope Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson Jeremy Lefroy

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to European Union (Withdrawal) Bill be reported to the House for publication: Rail Delivery Group (EUB0001) Law Society of Scotland (EUB0002) Which? (EUB0003) Professor Phil Syrpis (EUB0005) Mr Mark Ryan (EUB0006) UK Finance (EUB0007) Dr Sam Fowles (EUB0008) Compassion in World Farming (EUB0009) Cooperatives UK (EUB0010) Sir Konrad Schiemann (EUB0011)

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38 Degrees (EUB0012) Sir Mikolaj Barczentewicz (EUB0013) Open Britain (EUB0014) 3. Progress of UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Ordered, That written evidence from London First (NEG0001) relating to Progress of UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal be reported to the House for publication. [Adjourned till Wednesday 15 November at 9.00 am

Tuesday 7 - Thursday 9 November

The Chair, Joanna Cherry, Mr Christopher Chope, Stephen Crabb, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Richard Graham, Peter Grant, Stephen Kinnock, Jeremy Lefroy, Mr Pat McFadden, Craig Mackinlay, Seema Malhotra, Stephen Timms, Mr John Whittingdale and Hywel Williams visited Brussels and Paris in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 13 September.

Wednesday 15 November

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to European Union (Withdrawal) Bill be reported to the House for publication: Dr Ludivine Petetin (EUB0015) Dr Charlotte O’Brien, Senior Lecturer at York Law School (EUB0016) City of London Corporation (EUB0017) Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 7

Which? (EUB0018) Professor Richard Ekins, University of Oxford (EUB0019) Draft Report (European Union (Withdrawal) Bill), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read. The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published with the First Report of the Committee, HC 373.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 21 November at 9.30 am

Tuesday 21 November Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson

1. Progress of UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 22 November at 8.30 am

Wednesday 22 November

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant

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Wera Hobhouse Mr John Whittingdale Stephen Kinnock Hywel Williams Jeremy Lefroy Sammy Wilson

1. Progress of UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 22 November at 4.00 pm

Wednesday 22 November

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson Jeremy Lefroy

1. Progress of UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 28 November at 9.30 am

Tuesday 28 November

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Jeremy Lefroy

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal be reported to the House for publication: TheCityUK (NEG0002) Rail Delivery Group (NEG0003) City of London Corporation (EUB0017) Which? (EUB0018) Professor Richard Ekins, University of Oxford (EUB0019) Draft Report (Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read. The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published with the Second Report of the Committee, HC 372.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 29 November at 9.00 am

Wednesday 29 November

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Stephen Crabb Craig Mackinlay Mr Jonathan Djanogly Seema Malhotra Richard Graham Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Peter Grant Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Mr John Whittingdale Stephen Kinnock Hywel Williams Jeremy Lefroy Sammy Wilson Mr Pat McFadden

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Peter Hardwick, Head of Exports, Agriculture & Horticulture Development Board, James Hookham, Deputy Chief Executive, Freight Transport Association, Sian Thomas,

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Communications Manager, Fresh Produce Consortium and Duncan Brock, Group Director, Chartered Institute of Procurement and Supply, gave oral evidence. Richard Everett, Chair, Port of Dover, Jon Thompson, Chief Executive and Permanent Secretary, HMRC, John Bourne, Policy Director of Animal & Plant Health, Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and Richard Ballantyne, Chief Executive, British Ports Association, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 6 December at 9.00 am

Wednesday 6 December

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Andrea Jenkyns Sammy Wilson Stephen Kinnock

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Department on Exiting the European Union sectoral analyses Rt Hon David Davis MP, Secretary of State, Department for Exiting the European Union, gave oral evidence. Philip Rycroft, Permanent Secretary, Department for Exiting the European Union, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 6 December at 5.00 pm

Wednesday 6 December

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 11

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Andrea Jenkyns Sammy Wilson Stephen Kinnock

1. Department on Exiting the European Union sectoral analyses Motion made, and Question put, That the Committee considers that the Government’s response to the resolution of the House of 1 November has not complied with the terms of that resolution. – (The Chair)

Amendment proposed to leave out “not”. – (Mr John Whittingdale)

Question put that the amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 11 Noes, 8

Mr Peter Bone Joanna Cherry Mr Christopher Chope Peter Grant Stephen Crabb Wera Hobhouse Mr Jonathan Djanogly Stephen Kinnock Richard Graham Mr Pat McFadden Andrea Jenkyns Seema Malhotra Jeremy Lefroy Stephen Timms Craig Mackinlay Hywel Williams Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr John Whittingdale Sammy Wilson

Amendment, accordingly, agreed to.

Amendment proposed, after “That” to insert “, in view of the statement that no impact assessments have been undertaken,”. – (Stephen Timms)

Amendment agreed to.

Main Question, as amended, agreed to.

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Resolved, That, in view of the statement that no impact assessments have been undertaken, the Committee considers that the Government’s response to the resolution of the House of 1 November has complied with the terms of that resolution.

[Adjourned till Thursday 7 December at 11.00 am

Thursday 7 December

The Chair, Joanna Cherry, Mr Christopher Chope, Stephen Crabb, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Richard Graham, Peter Grant, Wera Hobhouse, Stephen Kinnock, Mr Pat McFadden, Craig Mackinlay, Seema Malhotra, Stephen Timms, and Hywel Williams visited Northern Ireland in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 13 September.

Thursday 7 December

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Joanna Cherry Stephen Kinnock Mr Christopher Chope Mr Pat McFadden Stephen Crabb Craig Mackinlay Mr Jonathan Djanogly Seema Malhotra Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Hywel Williams Wera Hobhouse

1. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Simon York, Director, and Mike O’Grady, Deputy Head Organised Crime Operations North, HMRC Fraud Investigation Service, HM Revenue and Customs, Deputy Chief Constable Drew Harris, and Assistant Chief Constable Stephen Martin, Head of Crime Operations, Police Service Northern Ireland, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 13 December at 9.00 am

Wednesday 13 December

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Mr Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 13

Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson

1. Department on Exiting the European Union sectoral analyses Motion made, and Question put, That the Chair write to the Secretary of State to inform him that the Committee is minded to publish in full the reports arising from the sectoral analyses undertaken by the Government that were provided to the Committee on 27 November. – (The Chair) The Committee divided.

Ayes, 8 Noes, 10

Joanna Cherry Mr Peter Bone Peter Grant Mr Christopher Chope Wera Hobhouse Stephen Crabb Stephen Kinnock Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Pat McFadden Richard Graham Seema Malhotra Jeremy Lefroy Stephen Timms Craig Mackinlay Hywel Williams Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr John Whittingdale Sammy Wilson

Question negatived. Motion made, and Question put, That the Chair write to the Secretary of State to inform him that the Committee is minded to publish the reports arising from the sectoral analyses undertaken by the Government that were provided to the Committee on 27 November but with the Sector Views sections redacted from each report. – (The Chair) The Committee divided.

Ayes, 10 Noes, 8

Joanna Cherry Mr Peter Bone Stephen Crabb Mr Christopher Chope Peter Grant Mr Jonathan Djanogly Wera Hobhouse Richard Graham Stephen Kinnock Craig Mackinlay Jeremy Lefroy Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Pat McFadden Mr John Whittingdale Seema Malhotra Sammy Wilson Stephen Timms Hywel Williams

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Question, accordingly, agreed to.

Resolved, That, the Chair write to the Secretary of State to inform him that the Committee is minded to publish the reports arising from the sectoral analyses undertaken by the Government that were provided to the Committee on 27 November but with the Sector Views sections redacted from each report.

2. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 3. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Prof Alexander H. Türk, Professor of Law, King’s College London, John Cassels, Partner, Competition, Regulatory and Trade Law, Fieldfisher LLP, and Dr Scott Steedman, Director of Standards, BSI and Vice President (policy) International Standards Organisation, gave oral evidence.

Katherine Bennett, Senior Vice President, Airbus UK, Rod Ainsworth, Director of Regulatory and Legal Strategy, Food Standards Agency, Angela Hepworth, Director of Corporate Policy and Regulation, EDF UK, and Dr Ian Hudson, Chief Executive, Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 20 December at 9.00 am

Wednesday 20 December

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Stephen Kinnock Joanna Cherry Jeremy Lefroy Mr Christopher Chope Mr Pat McFadden Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Sammy Wilson Wera Hobhouse

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Department on Exiting the European Union sectoral analyses Ordered, That, the correspondence between the Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union and the Chair of the Committee be reported to the House for publication. Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 15

Ordered, That, the reports arising from the sectoral analyses undertaken by the Government that were provided to the Committee on 27 November be reported to the House for publication but with the Sector Views sections redacted from each report. 3. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Professor Michael Dougan, Professor of European Law and Jean Monnet Chair in EU Law, University of Liverpool, Professor Anand Menon, Director, UK in a Changing Europe, and Stephen Booth, Director of Policy and Research, Open Europe, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 10 January at 9.00 am

Wednesday 10 January

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Sir Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Emma Reynolds Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson Jeremy Lefroy

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Department on Exiting the European Union sectoral analyses Ordered, That the Clerk of the Committee write to the Scottish and Welsh Governments to inform them that the Committee on Exiting the European Union would have no objection to the Scottish and Welsh Governments making the reports arising from the sectoral analyses undertaken by the Government that were provided to the Committee on 27 November 2017 available to Members of the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly on a confidential basis and under equivalent conditions to those under which the reports were made available to all Members of the UK Parliament. 3. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal be reported to the House for publication: Association of British Insurers (NEG0007) Dr Charlotte O’Brien (NEG0008)

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Investment Association (NEG0009) Prof Stephen Woolcock (NEG0011) Professor Richard Whitman, Associate Fellow, Royal Institute of International Affairs and Director Global Europe Centre and Professor of Politics & International Relations, University of Kent, Fredrik Erixon, Director of the European Centre for International Political Economy, and Dr Stephen Woolcock, Associate Professor in International Relations, London School of Economics, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 17 January at 9.00 am

Wednesday 17 January

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Sir Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Emma Reynolds Peter Grant Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Mr John Whittingdale Andrea Jenkyns Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson Jeremy Lefroy

1. Declaration of interest Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg amended his declaration of interests of 13 September 2017. (For details of declarations of interests, see Appendix.) 2. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 3. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Dr Lorand Bartels, University of Cambridge and adviser on trade to Linklaters Solicitors, Christophe Bondy, PIL lawyer at Cooley (UK) LLP and Legal Counsel to the Canadian Government during the CETA negotiations, and William Swords, Chair of the Canada-UK Chamber of Commerce, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Thursday 18 January at 10.00 am

Thursday 18 January The Chair, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Stephen Kinnock, Jeremy Lefroy, Mr Pat McFadden, Seema Malhotra and Stephen Timms visited Cambridge in connection with the Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 17

Committee’s inquiry into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 13 September 2017.

Thursday 18 January

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Pat McFadden Stephen Kinnock Seema Malhotra Jeremy Lefroy Stephen Timms

1. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Dr Eilis Ferran, Pro-Vice Chancellor for Institutional International Relations, Cambridge University, Professor Greg Hannon, Director, Cancer Research UK Cambridge Institute, Michael Lawrence, Business Development Director, Deimos UK, and Andy Williams, Vice-President of Research & Development, MedImmune and Cambridge Transition Team Leader, AstraZeneca, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 24 January at 9.00 am

Wednesday 24 January

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Mr Pat McFadden Joanna Cherry Craig Mackinlay Sir Christopher Chope Seema Malhotra Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Emma Reynolds Richard Graham Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Mr John Whittingdale Andrea Jenkyns Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson Jeremy Lefroy

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. European Union (Withdrawal) Bill Draft Special Report (European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Government Response to the Committee’s First Report of Session 2017-19), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

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The Government’s response to the First Report from the Committee was appended to the Report. Resolved, That the Report be the First Special Report of the Committee to the House. Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House. 3. The Government’s negotiating objectives: The rights of UK and EU citizens Ordered, That, the correspondence from the Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union relating to the Committee’s Second Report of Session 2016-17 be reported to the House for publication. 4. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Rt Hon David Davis MP, Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 31 January at 9.00 am

Thursday 25 January The Chair, Joanna Cherry, Stephen Crabb, Richard Graham, Peter Grant, Stephen Kinnock, Jeremy Lefroy, Mr Pat McFadden, Emma Reynolds, Stephen Timms, John Whittingdale and Hywel Williams visited Dublin in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 13 September 2017.

Wednesday 31 January

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Sir Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Emma Reynolds Peter Grant Stephen Timms Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Michael Emerson, Associate Senior Research Fellow, Centre for European Policy Studies, Dr Tamara Kovziridze, co-founder, Reformatics; and chief negotiator and Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 19

coordinator of Georgian-EU negotiations on their Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreement, 2009-2012, and Dmytro Tupchiienko, Data Protection Lawyer, EY and former EU policy adviser to the Government of Ukraine gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Tuesday 6 February at 9.30 am

Tuesday 6 February

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Sir Christopher Chope Jeremy Lefroy Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Pat McFadden Richard Graham Seema Malhotra Peter Grant Emma Reynolds Wera Hobhouse Stephen Timms Stephen Kinnock Hywel Williams

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Professor Clive Church, Emeritus Professor of European Studies, University of Kent, Professor Rene Schwok, Director of the Global Studies Institute, University of Geneva, and John Springford, Deputy Director at the Centre for European Reform, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 7 February at 9.00 am

Wednesday 7 February

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Sir Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Seema Malhotra Mr Jonathan Djanogly Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Richard Graham Emma Reynolds Wera Hobhouse Stephen Timms Stephen Kinnock Mr John Whittingdale Jeremy Lefroy Sammy Wilson

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter.

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2. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Professor Alla Pozdnakova, University of Oslo Law Faculty, Ulf Sverdrup, Director, Norwegian Institute of International Affairs, and Professor George Yarrow, Chair of the Regulatory Policy Institute, Emeritus Fellow at Hertford College, University of Oxford and visiting Professor, Newcastle University Business School, gave oral evidence. Professor Carl Baudenbacher, Judge and President of the EFTA Court, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 21 February at 9.00 am

Monday 19 February The Chair, Joanna Cherry, Sir Christopher Chope, Stephen Crabb, Jonathan Djanogly, Richard Graham, Wera Hobhouse, Stephen Kinnock, Jeremy Lefroy, Mr Pat McFadden, Craig Mackinlay, Seema Malhotra, Emma Reynolds, Stephen Timms, John Whittingdale and Hywel Williams visited Brussels in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 13 September 2017.

Wednesday 21 February

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Mr Pat McFadden Joanna Cherry Craig Mackinlay Sir Christopher Chope Seema Malhotra Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Wera Hobhouse Hywel Williams Andrea Jenkyns Sammy Wilson

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. Resolved, That the Committee visit Leeds in connection with its inquiry into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal. 2. Government’s EU Exit Analysis: Cross-Whitehall Briefing Ordered, That the Chair write to the Secretary of State to inform him that the Committee was minded to publish the Government’s EU Exit Analysis: Cross-Whitehall Briefing and to ask him whether there were any specific details that he would wish to be redacted on the basis that they were either sensitive to the negotiations, market sensitive or commercially confidential. Committee on Exiting the European Union: Formal Minutes 2016–17 21

3. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Ordered, That, the Chair write to the Secretary of State regarding the progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal. Emanuel Adam, Director of Policy & Trade, British American Business, Dr Pınar Artıran, WTO Chair Holder, Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, Istanbul Bilgi University, Dr Peter Holmes, Reader in Economics, University of Sussex, and Sam Lowe, Research Fellow, Centre for European Reform, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Tuesday 27 February at 9.30 am

Tuesday 27 February

Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Joanna Cherry Craig Mackinlay Sir Christopher Chope Seema Malhotra Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Stephen Timms Richard Graham Mr John Whittingdale Peter Grant Hywel Williams Stephen Kinnock Sammy Wilson Mr Pat McFadden

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. 2. Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal Draft Special Report (Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal: Government Response to the Committee’s Second Report of Session 2017-19), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to. The Government’s response to the Second Report from the Committee was appended to the Report. Resolved, That the Report be the Second Special Report of the Committee to the House. Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House. Pascal Lamy, former Director General of the World Trade Organisation and former European Commissioner for Trade, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Wednesday 7 March at 9.00 am

Wednesday 7 March

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Members present:

Hilary Benn, in the Chair

Mr Peter Bone Jeremy Lefroy Joanna Cherry Mr Pat McFadden Sir Christopher Chope Craig Mackinlay Stephen Crabb Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Mr Jonathan Djanogly Emma Reynolds Richard Graham Stephen Timms Peter Grant Mr John Whittingdale Andrea Jenkyns Sammy Wilson Stephen Kinnock

1. Committee activities and inquiries The Committee considered this matter. Resolved, That the Committee visit the City of London and Berlin in connection with its inquiry into the Progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal. 2. Government’s EU Exit Analysis: Cross-Whitehall Briefing Motion made, and Question put, That the Government’s EU Exit Analysis: Cross- Whitehall Briefing, provided to the Committee on 6 February 2018 subsequent to the Humble Address of 31 January, be reported to the House for publication with the exception of Annex B. – (The Chair) Amendment proposed to leave out “with the exception of Annex B”. – (Peter Grant)

Question put that the amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 2 Noes, 15

Joanna Cherry Mr Peter Bone Peter Grant Mr Christopher Chope Stephen Crabb Mr Jonathan Djanogly Richard Graham Andrea Jenkyns Stephen Kinnock Jeremy Lefroy Mr Pat McFadden Craig Mackinlay Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Emma Reynolds Stephen Timms Mr John Whittingdale Sammy Wilson

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Amendment negatived. Main Question put.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 11 Noes, 6

Mr Peter Bone Mr Christopher Chope Joanna Cherry Mr Jonathan Djanogly Stephen Crabb Andrea Jenkyns Richard Graham Craig Mackinlay Peter Grant Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg Stephen Kinnock Mr John Whittingdale Jeremy Lefroy Mr Pat McFadden Emma Reynolds Stephen Timms Sammy Wilson

Main Question, accordingly, agreed to.

Resolved, That, the Government’s EU Exit Analysis: Cross-Whitehall Briefing, provided to the Committee on 6 February 2018 subsequent to the Humble Address of 31 January, be reported to the House for publication with the exception of Annex B. [Adjourned till Tuesday 13 March at 9.30 am

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APPENDIX: DECLARATION OF MEMBERS, INTERESTS

13 September 2017: Declaration of Members' interests

Interests declared in addition to those registered by members of the Committee in the Register of Members' Financial Interests as at 11 September 2017

Hilary Benn: Member of Unite

Jonathan Djanogly: Joint Chairman of the Task Force Europe of the British-Swiss Chamber of Commerce (unpaid) Chairman of the Republic of Georgia APPG Deputy Chairman of the Ukraine APPG Chairman of the Corporate Governance APPG Joint Chair of the Corporate Responsibility APPG Minority Share in Djanogly Family LLP Member of European Research Group

Richard Graham: Prime Minister's Trade Envoy to Indonesia, ASEAN Economic Community (AEC), Philippines, Malaysia

Stephen Kinnock: Member of Community

Jeremy Lefroy: Government Trade Envoy to Ethiopia

Craig Mackinlay: Member of the European Research Group

Pat McFadden: Member of Community

Jacob Rees-Mogg: Member of the European Research Group

11 October 2017: Declaration of Members’ interests

Peter Bone: Cofounder and director of Grassroots Out Board member of Leave Means Leave

17 January 2018: Declaration of Members’ interests

Jacob Rees-Mogg: Chairman of the European Research Group