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Thursday, November 24, 1994 VOLUME 133 NUMBER 130 1st SESSION 35th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Thursday, November 24, 1994 Speaker: The Honourable Gilbert Parent HOUSE OF COMMONS Thursday, November 24, 1994 The House met at 10 a.m. Guarnieri Hanger Hanrahan Harb _______________ Harper (Calgary West) Harper (Simcoe Centre) Harris Hart Harvard Hermanson Prayers Hickey Hill (Macleod) Hoeppner Hopkins _______________ Hubbard Ianno Irwin Jackson Keyes Kilger (Stormont—Dundas) GOVERNMENT ORDERS Kirkby Knutson Kraft Sloan Lee Lincoln Loney [English] MacAulay MacDonald MacLaren (Etobicoke North) MacLellan (Cape/Cap Breton—The Sydneys) DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES ACT Malhi Manley Marchi Marleau The House resumed from November 23 consideration of the Massé McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) McGuire McKinnon motion that Bill C–48, an act to establish the Department of McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) McTeague Natural Resources and to amend related acts, be read the third McWhinney Meredith time and passed. Mifflin Milliken Mills (Broadview—Greenwood) Mitchell The Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a) the House Morrison Murray Nault Nunziata will now proceed to the taking of the deferred division on the O’Brien O’Reilly motion at third reading stage of Bill C–48, an act to establish the Ouellet Pagtakhan Parrish Penson Department of Natural Resources and to amend related acts. Peters Phinney Call in the members. Ramsay Reed Regan Richardson (The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the Rideout Ringuette–Maltais Robichaud Rock following division:) Rompkey Schmidt Serré Shepherd (Division No. 117) Skoke Solberg Solomon Speaker YEAS Speller St. Denis Members Stewart (Northumberland) Stinson Strahl Szabo Abbott Adams Taylor Telegdi Allmand Anderson Terrana Thalheimer Arseneault Assadourian Baker Bakopanos Thompson Tobin Barnes Berger Torsney Ur Bertrand Bethel Valeri Vanclief Bhaduria Blondin–Andrew Walker Wappel Bodnar Boudria Wells Whelan Bridgman Brown (Calgary Southeast) White (North Vancouver) Young Brown (Oakville—Milton) Brushett Zed—159 Caccia Calder Campbell Cannis Catterall Chamberlain Chan Chatters Chrétien (Saint–Maurice) Clancy NAYS Collins Copps Cowling Crawford Members Culbert Cummins de Jong DeVillers Dhaliwal Discepola Bachand Bellehumeur Duhamel Dupuy Bergeron Bernier (Gaspé) Easter Eggleton Bouchard Bélisle English Epp Canuel Caron Finestone Finlay Chrétien (Frontenac) Dalphond–Guiral Flis Fontana Gaffney Gagliano Daviault Debien Gagnon (Bonaventure—Îles–de–la–Madeleine) Gallaway Deshaies Duceppe Gerrard Gilmour Dumas Fillion Godfrey Goodale Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier (Roberval) Graham Grey (Beaver River) Godin Guay Grose Grubel Guimond Jacob 8209 COMMONS DEBATES November 24, 1994 Routine Proceedings Lalonde Landry (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and Langlois Laurin Lavigne (Beauharnois—Salaberry) Leblanc (Longueuil) printed.) Lefebvre Leroux (Richmond—Wolfe) Leroux (Shefford) Loubier Marchand Mercier Ménard Nunez * * * Paré Pomerleau Rocheleau Sauvageau Tremblay (Rimouski—Témiscouata) Tremblay (Rosemont) GRANDPARENT YEAR ACT Venne—43 PAIRED—MEMBERS Mr. Julian Reed (Halton—Peel, Lib.) moved for leave to introduce Bill C–291, an act respecting a national year of the Members grandparent. Asselin Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) Cauchon Crête Dingwall Dubé He said: Madam Speaker, the bill is designed to declare the Gray (Windsor West) LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands—Canso) Lebel Minna year 1995 as the year of the grandparent to celebrate the value of Patry Picard (Drummond) grandparents in the Canadian family. Many of us who have had Plamondon Scott (Fredericton—York—Sunbury) St–Laurent de Savoye the privilege of having grandparents realize the pillars they are to children and grandchildren growing up. (1035) We also realize that grandparents experience some difficul- The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Maheu): I declare the motion ties in modern day life. They concern access to grandchildren carried. when a divorce occurs and so on. It seems to me that 1995 could (Bill read the third time and passed.) be correctly utilized as the year to raise the consciousness of all of us on the value they provide to the Canadian family. _____________________________________________ (1040) ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS I am honoured to present the bill to the House. I certainly hope it meets with some success in subsequent proceedings. [Translation] (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed.) GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS Mr. Peter Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of * * * the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Madam Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), I have the honour to COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE table, in both official languages, the government’s response to nine petitions. FINANCE * * * Mr. Peter Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Madam Speaker, there have been discussions among the parties and I ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT think you would find unanimous consent for the following motion. I move: Mr. Paul DeVillers (Simcoe North, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I That the Standing Committee on Finance be authorized to travel to Toronto on have the honour to present, in both official languages, the fourth November 28 and 29, 1994, during its consideration of matters set forth in Standing report of the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustain- Order 83(1); able Development dealing with Bill C–56, an Act to amend the That, on Monday, November 28, 1994 and, if necessary, on Wednesday, Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, reported with amend- November 30, 1994, the business to be taken up under Government Orders shall be ments. the following motion: That this House take note of the opinions expressed by Canadians on the budget * * * policy of the government and, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 83(1), authorize the Standing Committee on Finance to make a report or reports [English] thereon no later than December 7, 1994. And; that no later than the time of completion of consideration of Government INCOME TAX ACT Orders on November 30, 1994, every question necessary for the disposal of the said motion shall be put, forthwith and successively, without further debate or Hon. David Anderson (for the Minister of Finance) moved amendment. for leave to introduce Bill C–59, an act to amend the Income Tax Act and the income tax application rules. (Motion agreed to.) 8210 November 24, 1994 COMMONS DEBATES Routine Proceedings PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BUSINESS [English] MOTION NO. 107 VIOLENCE IN THE MEDIA Mr. Peter Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of Mr. Ronald J. Duhamel (St. Boniface, Lib.): Madam Speak- the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Madam er, this petition is about unnecessary violence and abuse on Speaker, I think you would find unanimous consent of the House radio, television and in other forms of the media. for the withdrawal of Item No. 16 listed on today’s Order Paper under Private Members’ Business, being the motion of Mr. These petitioners have great concerns as to the impact on the Gauthier, now Senator Gauthier, who has left the House. Canadian population of abuse and violence in the media. They request that the CRTC regulate all forms of unnecessary abuse I think you would find consent to strike it from the order of and violence. Parents point out that often what occurs there is precedence. counterproductive to what they are trying to do in raising their (Motion agreed to.) families. They point out that there have been some advances made and the CRTC is to be commended for some of the steps it * * * has taken. [Translation] PETITIONS Not only do they want this to go on, they want more progress. GUN CONTROL They believe it is necessary for their children. Mr. Jim Hart (Okanagan—Similkameen—Merritt, Ref.): [English] Madam Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36 I rise today to present a petition from constituents of Okanagan—Similka- DRUG PATENT LEGISLATION meen—Merritt. To date I have presented 898 signatures to a petition regarding further legislation on gun control. Mr. John Solomon (Regina—Lumsden, NDP): Madam Speaker, I am pleased to stand in the House today, pursuant to There are legitimate reasons for people to own guns, includ- Standing Order 36, to present a petition on behalf of constituents ing hunting, collecting and target shooting. Some people have from Regina—Lumsden. This petition is signed as well by actually distinguished themselves in Canada for their expertise people from Saskatoon, Balcarres, Watrous, Esterhazy, Langen- in this particular area. burg, Churchbridge, Carnduff, Kisbey and Carievale in Sas- The petitioners are asking the Government of Canada to get katchewan. tough on criminals and not to get tougher on law–abiding gun owners. Therefore they oppose any further legislation for fire- The passage of the drug patent legislation Bill C–91 has arms acquisition and possession. They call on the government to caused undue hardship on the consumers of prescription drugs, provide strict guidelines and mandatory sentencing for the use the sick and the elderly. Since this bill was passed the cost of or possession of a firearm in the commission of a crime, and I prescription drugs has increased over 100 per cent, at the rate of agree with the petitioners. 12 per cent per year since 1987. The petitioners are calling upon the government which in opposition supported the repeal of Bill (1045) C–91 to repeal the drug patent legislation now that it is
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