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Issue 2 Newsletter HCPPA (UK) July 2001 A Legend called to rest Message from College consider his period as Prin- Principal cipal as the ‘Golden Era’. He was Hartley and Hartley was him. The It gives me great Pleasure to give a foundations he laid and the tradi- message to your “Newsletter” tions he natured at Hartley set it off on its magnificent course to be re- Here, we at Hartley have been go- nowned as a leading educational ing through a period of stress. We are institution in the country and con- engulfed by problems all around. On tinue even in the present times of going war is the greatest stumbling block turmoil. to our overall progress. We have to face realities and yet move forward facing The people of and very awkward and awesome circum- the students of Hartley College stances. were very fortunate to have had him live and work amongst them for This is our greatest duty to mother many years. Those who have Hartley. We have to build her up to her worked with him and known him old past pristine glory. The only way we personally have had a precious gift can rise up to the occasion is by our old of a life time. His life and works will Hartleyites who are spread the world be written in the annals of history of over, joining hands with us to help unre- The News that Mr K Pooranampil- our land and times to be studied and nd servedly. With their strength pushing us lai had passed away on the 22 of April marvelled in perpetuity by many of from behind we can move forward. spread like wild fire across the globe our future generations to come. and was received with sadness by all He will live in our hearts for Hartleyites. Tributes and messages of The curricula now is very wide and condolences started pouring in its hun- ever and ever. information oriented. Hartleyites have to dreds. Indeed memorial services and gear themselves to broader their educa- remembrance meetings were held within In this Issue: tion through Radio, Television, Com- days in Colombo, Point Pedro, Austra- puter and Internet. Here our past Pupil’s A Legend called to rest 1 lia, Canada and at Hartley College. association can be of immense assis- A Legend is called to rest 1 tance. Message from Principal 1 His funeral took place in Falk- Mother Hartley wishes you well and re- stone, Kent on Saturday the 28th April HARTLEYTribute by COLLEGE the President P.P.A at– U.K. the Funeral BRANCH 2 2 Service of Mr Pooranampillai and was well attended by many past mains always grateful to you. pupils and former teachers of Hartley TributeHartley byCollege the President P.P.A. UK at– theExecutive Funeral 4 2 ServiceCommittee of Members College now resident in the UK. Editorials and Activities of the Association 5 M. SHREEPATHY forReflection the year and Lessons to be Learnt - New 3 Millennium Annual Dinner 2000—Held in Principal, Hartley college A Thanksgiving service for his life Reflections and Lessons to be Learnt– 6 th New Millenium Annual Dinner 2000 Point-Pedro was held on Sunday the 13 May 2001 Request by the Principal for Finantial support 4 for the College at the Rivercourt Methodist Church, Request form the Principal for financial 7 support London. On the 31st day of his death a Letter from the Principal 5 full day of events and remembrance Letter from the Principal 8 took placed organised by the Principal, HartleyAn Appreciation. Excels Prof C . Eliezer by K. 8 6 “Nothing exists, except through staff, students and the Point Pedro Past Pooranmapillai human consciousness” Pupils Association. An Appreciation Prof. C. Eliezer by K. 9 Pooranmapillai George Orwell– In his book “1984” Generations of students of Hartley Tamill Poem 10 PAGE 2 THEHARTLEYITE NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK)

Current Committee members meeting the Vice-Patron Mr. K. Pooranampillai. at his youngest daughter’s residence in Rugby on 19th February 2001 Tribute by the President at the Funeral Service of Mr. Pooranampillai

I stand here as the President of the ents’ names, their siblings’ names and 1924 and had to walk four miles every Hartley College Past Pupils’ Associa- their professions. They are now very day to school. tion – UK branch and also as a relative. precious and memorable moments for We, as a family, visited my great-uncle all of us. At the age of sixteen he lost his Mr. Pooranampillai and Peace aunty, father, and from then on his family and had a very pleasant and relaxing Mr. Pooranampillai was born in with three sisters and one brother went time at his daughter’s place in Rugby 1909, when his father was Principal of through a time of hardship and difficul- just three weeks ago. None of us envis- Hartley College in Point Pedro, a small ties. He started to work as a teacher at aged that we would meet here again so coastal town in the north of the Matale Christ Church College at a soon, to bid final farewell to Poorana and the college was then called Central very early age, and was the main bread- uncle. Methodist School. His father later took winner for his family sending money up Law and his family moved to Thun- back home to his mother from his earn- Only a month earlier the executive nalai, a village 4 miles to the South. ings. He obtained an external degree committee and trustees of the Hartley He attended Thunnalai Methodist from the University of London by self- College Past Pupils’ Association trav- School and then the Methodist Girls study, while also doing a full time elled from London to Rugby, and we High School, where he was one of teaching job. Mr. Pooranampillai chatted to our former Principal for a three boys in first year special class. It joined Hartley as a teacher in 1932, and few hours. He enjoyed meeting his old has been recorded by him that the then went on to become Principal in 1944. pupils and quipped that he felt young Principal called them ‘the troublesome He transformed Hartley and Point again during these encounters. We trio’! It’s consoling to know that he Pedro, and was instrumental in provid- talked about many old pupils, and as was also human in this respect, even ing an all round education and ushering usual he amazed us all by remembering though it was at a very early age. in an era of modernity. not only their names but also their par- He then studied at Hartley from 1918 to NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK) THEHARTLEYITE PAGE 3 He was sponsored by the Method- incident where a teacher threw him out actor. But, KP was a very English John ist church to do post graduate teacher of the class, and would not listen to his Wayne! In fact, when my friend one training at the Selly Oak College in protestations. When K P saw this, and day greeted him saying ‘Morning sir’ Birmingham, England where he resided because he knew the reasons why the the quick response was ‘We all know it from 1950 to 1951. He admired the student behaved in such a way, he went is morning, say ‘Good Morning sir.’ British Educational system and mod- to the class and in the presence of my On the face of it, he was a strict man, elled Hartley College on an English friend gave an explanation on his be- but if you got closer to him, in time you Grammar school. He established Hart- half. K.P always stood up for what he could experience his kindness, benefit ley as a leading educational Institution saw was right. But if students were from his advice and indeed counselling. in the Island - one that produced pro- punished by him they dared not go and But my friend added “If you misbe- fessionals and scientists and citizens of say that to the parents because they haved, he would come down on you distinction in all walks of life, who would get punished at home again for like a ton of bricks.” went on to become prominent in many the same offence. Students called this ‘ parts of the world. He was renowned as the double dose’. In his position he sometimes had a strict disciplinarian with good reason to deal with opposition and strong criti- and he was extremely methodical. His K P was a devout Christian and a cism, but he dealt with his enemies staff cooperated with his “one king, one lay preacher who took Sunday services honourably and charitably. In the law” approach because they trusted his at the local church and for a time words of a former teacher “He was a vision and ability. Many pupils, here served as the vice President of Method- gentleman to his fingertips”. He did not and all around the world, would wit ist Conference of Sri Lanka. He was just impose his discipline on his stu- ness to the fact that they owe their posi- involved in social work and in the post dents and staff, but also on himself and tions in the society to him. The words war period campaigned for family plan- his family. He took up Yoga and prac- of a leading Hartleyite were, “ I shud- ning. tised it until ill health made it impossi- der to think what would have happened ble to carry on. On a personal level, he to me had there been no Hartley within KP became Principal of St John’s was an affable and likeable person, walking distance of my home.” Many College in 1967, another leading school who also knew when not to talk. He of us share this sentiment; it is in effect in Jaffna. At the time he became Princi- was a very loving husband, and a car- what we all owe Mr Pooranampillai... pal, St John’s College, as a non-fee ing and loving father and a grandfather. levying private school was facing fi- We all count ourselves fortunate to K P, as many people knew him, nancial difficulties. A friend of mine have known him in whichever capacity, not only made sure that he knew every who studied there told me that im- and thank you Poorana mama for eve- student well, but also knew about their provements in discipline, exam results rything you gave in abundance to all of parents and their social and financial and sports were very quickly noticed. us. backgrounds. This enabled him to deal He added that he was very smart, and with each student in an individual and because of the style of his walk and the You have not died in the hearts of your appropriate manner. This was his char- hat he wore, became nicknamed John family, friends and the community you acter. A fellow Hartleyite told me of an Wayne, after the famous late American served. S. E. Manoharan “Pooranampillai Memorial Fund” HCPPA (UK) has established ‘Poorranampillai Memorial Fund’ in benefit of education and facilities at Hartley College. For further details, please contact our Treasurer: Mr. S. Balasingam; E-Mail: [email protected]; Phone: 020 8470 1818

Memorial Service Harley College Past Pupils Association (UK) and St John’s College / Chundikuli Girls College Past Pupils Association (UK) held a Thanksgiving Service for the life of the Late Mr. K Pooranampillai on Sunday the 13th of May at the Rivercourt Methodic Church at Hammersmith, London. More than 250 people attended this service of worship and remembrance.

The service started with the lighting of candle by Mr. P Jeyakumar, Late Mr. K Pooranampillai’s son and Reverend Alex- ander Barnabas led the worship. Tributes were paid by Mr. Ariyaratnam, a family friend, Mr. C. Sithamparapillai, Past Pupil of Hartley College, Miss N Navaratnasinham, Former teacher of Hartley College, Mr. A. E. Rajan, Past Pupil of St John’s College and Mr. Ranjan Babu—Past Pupil St John’s College. A shorter version of the Tamil poem dedicated at the remembrance meeting held at Hartley College on 24th April was read out Messages also from Mr. P. Balasingan—Former Principal Hartley College; Mrs. Chandra Ratnavel- Former Teacher Hartley College; Mr. K. Palasubramaniam-secretary HCPPA, Victoria, Australia; Dr. Shan A Shanmugavadivel– President– PPA Canada &USA; Mr. N Chinniah– President– PPA Colombo; Mr. M. Nadarajasuda- ram-PPA-Point Pedro; Rev Soma Perera– Former President of Methodic Church Sri Lanka were also read out. Mrs. S Arulanan- dam, daughter of Late Mr. K Pooranampillai gave vote of thanks at the end of the service. PAGE 4 THEHARTLEYITE NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK)

HARTLEY COLLEGE P.P.A – U.K. We share the Sports day Executive Committee Members– YEAR 2001. Sad News cancellation

PRESIDENT Dr. R. Ukiraperuvaluthi Pil- The Sports day scheduled for lai, an old boy of Hartley College 23rd June had to be cancelled sud- Mr. S.E. Manoharan and an active contributor of its affairs who was recently ap- denly due to a variety of unforeseen pointed Senior Lecturer in Bacte- and unavoidable reasons. The Execu- VICE PRESIDENT riology Jaffna University passed tive Committee wishes to apologise away at the age of 52 suddenly in to our members, well wishers and S. Sivakumaram Jaffna.. participants. Mr. T. Segarajasingham of Thuunnalai, Retired Account- Hartley college team partici- SECRETARY ant, old boy of Hartley and father pated in the Tamil Schools Sports Mr. V. Thayanandarajah of our Committee member Mr. S. Association tournament. Our cricket Nagarajah passed away at the age team will participate in the British of 86 on Wednesday June 20, 2001. The funeral was held on Tamil Association’s sports festival to th TREASURER Thursday June 21, 2001 at his be held on the 29 of July. Residence. Mr. S. Balasingam

Mr. S. Thanabalasingham “You could call yourself a ma- (Retired Additional Government SPORTS SECRETARY Agent) passed away at the age of tured person when what you Mr. M.. 72 in Colombo on 14th of June. He is father in law of Mr. El- perceive of yourself as a per- lanan, our Sports Secretary and son coincides with what others Committee member and father of COMMITTEE Mr. T. Ravishankar, a member of perceive of you and with what HCPPA Colombo branch. Mr. S. Nagarajah

Mr. C.. Sithamparapillai Dr. S. Sivaloganathan Annual General Meeting & Dinner 2001— Mr. S.Suthaharan An evening of relaxation and reminiscence

TRUSTEES Date : 3 November 2001 Mr. A . Easwaramoham (Chairman) Place: C &L Country Club, Northolt, Middlessex Mr. A N Sivarajah (Secretary)

Dr. M . Vinayagamoorthy (Treasurer) Tickets – Single £ 15 ; Family £ 35 Mr. V. Thayanandarajah (Member) Keep the date free. Further information will follow Mr. S. Balasingam (Member) PAGE 5 THEHARTLEYITE NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK)

Editorial and activities of the Association Annual for the year membership fees

The Executive Committee is Our association was closely We are enclosing a member- very privileged to be involved in involved in the funeral arrange- ship application form for year raising the profile of the HCPPA ments for Mr. K Pooranampillai. 2001. If you have paid the fees al- UK among the past Hartleyites We also held a service of Thanks- who are resident here through the ready please pass it on to a friend. giving for his life in collaboration Otherwise we would urge you to publication of this Newsletter and with the Past Pupils’ Association of other communications to members. St Johns and Chundikuli Girls Col- pay this without further delay or This is the second Newsletter from lege. waiting for a phone call from a the current editorial team and we committee member chasing for hope that as we gain more experi- payment. ence our publications will become Our committee will continue more informative and interesting in its endeavors, but it is Hartley- to our readers. ites’ commitment to membership of It is true that we all live in a our association that will help us society that is rocking around at make further progress. Although We want this Newsletter to be many of us are settled in the U.K, break neck speed but please spare a the voice of HCPPA (UK). We are our paid up membership has not moment for the school that nour- therefore giving details of the As- reached a respectable number. We ished you with knowledge and sociation’s activities for the year can do more and - more impor- equipped you with tools to serve and we look forward to receiving tantly - Hartley and the current stu- the society you live in. You only contributions and comments from dents deserve better from us. have to read the letter from our pre- members so that we can serve you and the Association. sent Principal to realise that you Please read the letter from the and all of us could make a differ- Principal, Mr. M Shreepathy, pub- ence. The Executive Committee had lished in this Newsletter and let us three meetings this year focusing have your views about his mes- on issues ranging from effective sages. The Executive Committee liaison with the school Principal and the Trustees will be consider- A plane was about to crash locally in Point Pedro making a ing these and, in co ordination with conscious effort to co-ordinate other Hartley College Past Pupils’ and the stewardess was asked to with other Hartley College Past Associations around the world, will ensure that all the passengers fit- Pupils’ associations around the take comments of past pupils into ted their parachutes and jumped. world, planning general funding account in making any final deci- and other assistance to our school sions. She approached the French pas- and make preparations for our An- nual Dinner and Annual General senger and said, jump, it is the Meeting. We are also looking at Please help us - we are only as fashion, and he did. To the Eng- good as the support we derive from ways of helping needy students lish she said “ jump it is the with financial assistance for fur- you, our members. We need you; ther studies. your school undoubtedly needs sport’ and he did, and to the you. German she said jump it is an We are pleased to report that order and he also did. To the the Trustees have concluded fund- We look forward to your support ing matters relating to four com- and co-operation. Italian she said “ you are not al- puters - individuals funded three of lowed to jump” and immediately them - and a printer. Decision has S. E Manoharan also now been taken to fund books he jumped. and furniture for the school library V. Thayanadarajah to the value of £2,500. E mail : [email protected] Moral: Interact with people in an adaptive manner. PAGE 6 THEHARTLEYITE NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK) Reflection and lessons to be learnt New Millennium Annual Dinner November 2000 Dear Hartleytas, of their choice. scholarship, likewise, his sister Mrs Kanapathipillai (wife of a former In the Newsletter –Issue 1– A real change was the way the Hartleyte, Dr. Kanapathapillai) do- published in November 2000, under Chief Guest Mr. S. Gunanayagam nated £500,00 in order to establish the caption “Message from the delivered his speech. He is truly a another scholarship to perpetuate President”, it was announced that sports man. He did not remain in the the memory of her brother, the late the format of the Annual Dinner for podium instead, he walked around, Dr S Krishnasamy, an outstanding the year would be changed, as de- got his former teachers an others to product of Hartley. All in all, the sired by the membership. Our talk about their experiences at Hart- dinner was a great success, yet we words were matched by deeds. ley. His speech was very much in- need to improve. More and more More than 200 members and guests spiring and took all of us back to the recent past Hartleytes must attend attended the dinner. It was unique good old days. We cherished every future Annual Dinners, success of in that for the first time, members moment. We declared that we must the Association is really in their brought their children. It is memo- be proud of our alma mater. All of hands. They must take the centre rable as we were able to build a us must dedicate ourselves to help stage, while members like me, who bridge between Hartleytes of recent our brothers and sisters back at home belong to the old generation, ought past and who had left Hartley many who are in need of financial assis- to take the back seat but giving ad- decades ago. It was enjoyable as tance. Towards the fulfillment of vice and guidance. members and guests chose their this commitment he donated own table –mates and served food $1.500,00 for the establishment of a C. Sithamparapillai

Mr. S. Gunanayagam, Chief Guest is addressing the New Millennium Annual Dinner NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK) THEHARTLEYITE PAGE 7 Request by the Principal for financial support for the College Summary of statement of current requirements

Item Amount Description Details Possible funder no ( Rs) Land for assembly hall, auditorium 250 perches of land, Ministry will not 1 and 400 meter athletic 1,250,000 Private donations PPAs fund this track. Old church opposite used as assembly hall. 18 additional class rooms needed facilities and as- For 1100 students, large part of the 2 sembly hall, repairs to roofs school occupied PPAs Lab and library used as by armed forces classroom. a) Debris removed and the ground levelled b) Basket ball court - repair to dam- 4 - 5 lakhs 3 Playground Some funds from PPAs age 3 lakhs c) Games room - TT, badminton, chess etc a) 375 chairs, 375 desks, 25 teach- ers chairs, 30 teachers desks b) Library furniture, cupboards (10), bookshelves (25) general reading Ministry for essential s, PPAs 4 Furniture desks etc (numbers given) need further information c) Laboratory furniture, lab tables (10) d) Office furniture steel cabinets (4) & cupboards (16) 5 Television and VCR Essential and urgent need PPAs Various PPAs, reconditioned Computer room has capacity for 15 computers? computers 6 Computers Computer room by GTZ and Only one available in use and another SDS (School development soci- should soon arrive. ety) a) books Some funding HCPPA Victoria b) Cricket, football volleyball ex- and other branches 7 Other funding penses Core needs - ministry, extra ac- c) Telephone installations - ministry tivities – HCPPA must get the connection PPAs are willing to fund Colour photocopying ma- 8 Essential chine SDS and PPAs, Dr Selvaka- Computer operator and Train students - Ministry will not fund, dunco advised Principal 9 trainer about £ 100 per month to search for a possible candi- date. Kept as a routine fund within reach of School administration fund- 10 Principal, mainly for repairs and main- 50,000 PPAs ing tenance work emergencies.

Allocation of funds for main- 11 taining old building and playground PAGE 8 THEHARTLEYITE NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK) Letter from the Principal

Mr. S. E. Manoharan So whatever possible the Past Pupils’ Associations can do is al- This fund will help the Principal President HCPPA (UK) ways welcome. to deliberate and act swiftly in col- Dear Mr. Manoharan, laboration with the Past Pupils’ Asso- Your committee itself can de- ciations. It can be termed ‘Group Received your courteous letter cide on the priorities and act. 2001 Hartley’. dated 20-03-2001 on 23-04-2001. We suggest computers, sports Thank you very much. requirements especially for cricket We intend to set this up and it will have a constitution of its own , We sincerely congratulate you where the players can train them- selves within a limited space, facili- copies of which will be sent to all and your committee for your un- P.P.A.s the world over. stinted efforts on behalf of our pres- ties to improve indoors games, Audio tigious College. Visual Aids to spread curriculum development, Photostat Machines and Associations and individuals can We sent a detailed list of Hart- financial assistance for furnitures. directly find this ‘Group 2001 Hart- ley’s requirements; these can be pro- ley’ vided in three levels. (1) State level, Outright purchase of land for buildings for example which could Hartley is another priority. We are running our institution with dedication and zeal. We need entail a lot of money. (2) Non Gov- Though I suggest these, I leave ernmental Organisations can also your assistance and co-operation to it to your discretion to deliberate on still uplift famous Alma Mater . help. (3) Under the third category the immediate needs. comes the Past Pupils’ Associations spread all the world over, the School Our college badly needs a sepa- M. SHREEPATHY Development Societies and Individu- rate fund to facilitate fulfilling certain Principal als. immediate and urgent requirements. Hartley College, Point-Pedro

Hartley Excels!

Hartley College under 16 and under 18 teams won the Inter Collegiate Soccer Tournament.. Results:

Under 16–Hartley beats Tellipalai union 3 – nil

Under 18– Hartley beats Manipay Hindu 2– nil

The finals were played at Chunnakam Skandavarodaya

EXAMS—GCE A/L – EXAMS-GCE O/L University Admission 1 Science 1 97.5% AUG 1999 AUG 2000 2 Science 11 91.4% 3 Mathematics 1 99.1% Maths 55.2% 54.5% 4 Mathematics 11 93.0% Bio 71.9% 60.9% 5 English Lang. 67.2% 6 Social Science 99.1% Commerce 78.4% 77.6% 7 Tamil Lang. 96.5% 8 Hinduism 99.1% Arts 73.6% 66.7% 10 Electronics 89.5% TOTAL 73.6% 63.5% 11 Art 88.6% 12 Music-Carnatic 92.1% 13 English Lit. 75.0% 14 Christianity RC 100.0% NEWSLETTERHCPPA(UK) THEHARTLEYITE PAGE 9

HARTLEYCOLLEGE An Appreciation — Professor . C . J . Eliezer by K. Pooranmapillai

After graduation, I joined Hart- that there was a rule at the Cambridge She understood the needs of an aca- ley as an assistant teacher in May Union that students had to speak at demic and took charge of the social 1932. Among my assignments was least once in a term or give the reason side of things. She had a great inter- the teaching of English History to the why. est in her husband’s old school and Cambridge Junior Class-A Division. made Hartley Boys feel at home and They were the brightest and most I remember an occasion late guided them through the intricacies restless pupils. Of them, Jeyam onwhen Jeyam was Professor and of Colombo social life. When I be- Eliezer was the most diminutive and also a member of the Synod Method- came Principal and had to go to Co- probably the youngest. His father ist Church, Mr. E R de Silva doyen of lombo to attend the Hartley OBA had died earlier and as he told me Principals had spoken on the lan- Meetings, Jeyam and wife often in- later, he decided to make his way guage problem. Then Jeyam got up vited me for a meal. Ranee was good through life by hard work. and expressed a different point of cook and an ideal hostess and made view. And then to everyone’s sur- everybody welcome. By the end of 1932, he passed prise the great E.R. de Silva withdrew the Cambridge Junior Exam with his submission. After the “Sinhala only Act” the honours and distinctions. As he had atmosphere in academic circles also qualified from exemption from On his return from Cambridge, changed and Jeyan accepted a place the London Matriculation, he could Jeyam was appointed lecturer in in an Australian University. While proceed to prepare for the Intermedi- Mathematics at the University Col- there, he formed a branch of the ate Exam in Science, but he could lege and later he became Professor. Harley PPA. In 1999 I completed not enter University College as he He was very young at the time and ninety years and eth Hartleyites, there was under seventeen years. So he there were many write-ups in the pa- wanted to send me birthday greetings. joined the St Joseph’s College, Co- pers and he became a legend. People S. Prameswaran, President of the lombo and passed the intermediate often referred to a bright pupil “He is Victoria PPA had brought a large Exam in Science. an Eleizer”. Even older pupils often birthday card and got the Hartleyites confessed that when they went for of Victoria to sign. The first signato- Then he joined the University interviews, they were asked the name ries were Jeyam and Ranee Eliezer. I College in the BSc (Maths Class). At of the school and on hearing the was greatly touched. the examination he won First Class name of Hartley, the interviewing Honours and got a Scholarship to officers’ interjection was “Elizabeth’s This is a time to remember Cambridge. He studied at Christ school”. Eliezer with affection, sadness and a Church, the college founded and deep sense of loss. Our sincerest richly endowed by Thomas Wolsey. Jeyam was a very humble and sympathies to Mrs. Eliezer, the chil- He did well at Cambridge too among unassuming person and always ap- dren and the other members of the other things learnt to be a public proachable to the students as well as family. speaker. I remember reading in the parents. Jeyam’s marriage to Ra- Jawarharlal Neru’s autobiography nee Handy was a very happy one. Confession Regulations and Restrictions , I confess I have too sinned like Brutes Even the Streamlining theory of KP, Not once but several times Neither at school not at home, A thorn in your flesh And of course I was the winner most of the time, Antagonised in each and every of your moves I am telling this with good sportsmanship. Thought your grace coached me well to excel in sports Thus I enjoy life to the best of my tastes Which I gave up sooner as it lead to hero worship, As I believe, neither me nor you-have I couldn't accept rules and orders, No more life after death. Amen Late Dr. R Ukraperuvaluthipillai