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An Interview with Phil Ehart of Kansas The Roots Report: An Interview with Phil Ehart of Kansas I spoke with Phil Ehart, drummer and manager of the band Kansas about the band and their upcoming show on July 27th at the Stadium Theatre in Woonsocket. Phil Ehart: Hi, this is Phil… John Fuzek: Hi, this is John from Motif Magazine, how are you? Phil: I’m well, John, thank you, how are you? JF: Thanks for agreeing to do an interview PE: Sure, thanks for having me! JF: So, where are in you? In Kansas? (snicker) PE: No, the band is based in Atlanta, we haven’t been based in Kansas for over 30 years now, we’re still Kansas boys but we just live somewhere else JF: I read about your beginnings with a band called White Clover. Can you tell me about it? PE: That was a band that I started. It was sort of a late 60’s kind of a club band, cover band, that is where I spent most of my teen years-playing with White Clover JF: Was there any progressive rock there? PE: No, not really, it was just a local band JF: I read about that and Kansas 1 and Kansas 2 PE: Yeah, that can give you a headache reading that stuff! It’s all over the place JF: Yes, all the personnel changes! I see that you have Ronnie Platt as the lead vocalist of your band now, he was a former member of Shooting Star, and I always thought that they had a similar sound to Kansas. How did you hook up with him? PE: It was through seeing him perform live and also seeing his performances of Kansas songs on YouTube, it was a combination of things that led us to him, we met with him and talked with him and he seemed like the right kind of guy and it’s worked out, he’s been with us for three years now, so it’s gone very well! JF: Did he record with you on the Prelude Implicit CD? PE: yes JF: Is he a contributing writer as well? PE: He is a lyric writer, yes, he was very much involved in writing the songs JF: Does he play keys as well? PE: yes, singer, keyboardist and very involved in the writing of the songs JF: I listened to Prelude Implicit and it sounds like you have recaptured the old Kansas sound PE: We appreciate that, we worked very hard to do that, it’s not an easy thing to do but it kind of came to us naturally, go figure (laughs), it does lean towards the early Kansas days and the sound that with have with the violin and all JF: Yes, the great harmonies, the violin, guitar and organ mix is really what drives it and gives it the prog rock feel I gave it a listen and like it a lot, “The Voyage of Eight Eighteen”, “Camouflage” and “Summer” were some of my favs from it PE: Well, thank you! JF: I was thrilled that you got the sound, I was an early Kansas fan, i love “Song for America”, it’s an amazing song, you music was very opus-like PE: A lot of music there, yes JF: My fav of everything that you have done is “Miracles Out Of Nowhere”, it’s an amazing song PE: Thank you, we enjoy playing it every night! JF: Cool, i was going to ask if you still performed it! PE: Oh yes, we have played it since the day that we wrote it, let me put it this way, we have done it since the day that we RECORDED it! (laughs) It’s a great song to play, people really like it, so yes JF: One of memories of listening to that was back in the days of stereos and the big headphones I would lay in bed and listen to that song and I would close my eyes and there would be all this “trippy” sound going on in the headphones that you couldn’t hear when you just listened to it with loudspeakers, these little sounds would float around like bugs and buzz between the phones and it was pretty amazing PE: YES! That was a lot of fun! JF: That must be a lot of work to produce, that work was genius PE: Yes, it was difficult to work up the song, and learn it and perform it well for the recording, so, yeah, it’s always challenging, to this day it is still challenging JF: I can imagine! So, have you ever heard of a band called Umphree’s McGee? PE: Sure! JF: A few years back they put out a CD called Mantis, they had sent me a copy for review, it reminded me so much of early Kansas PE: Really! JF: Just that CD though, I went to see them live and when they performed those songs there was a very Kansas sound to it but when they strayed from those it was more jam band sounding PE: They’re a very talented band, they’re a good band JF: I am a fan of prog rock, especially the early days of prog rock. How do you feel about the vocalist change? I know that you have had a few over the years. Why did Steve Walsh retire? PE: Well, it was time I guess. He was struggling with his voice, like a lot of singers do as they get into their 60’s, they can’t do what they want to do vocally and it just got to the time where it was time for him to retire, it was very friendly, very agreeable, the time had come, he’s not the first one to retire from the band, so it’s the kind of thing that happens, we wished each other the best and moved on JF: How long were you without a singer before you hooked up with Ronnie? PE: Probably a few months, it took a while, luckily we didn’t have to go through a lot of stuff, just a minute, don’t go away… (sounds heard-BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!) OK, I’m back! JF: What was that??? PE: (laughs) This is the first time in an interview that I have ever had to kill a wasp! (laughs) I’ve been sitting here watching it, watching it and finally it landed so I nailed his ass! JF: (laughing) PE: BIG WASP! They just need to stay outside! That probably sounded like gun shots didn’t it? JF: YES! I didn’t know what the hell was going on! PE: (laughs) just a second I’m going to shoot this wasp! (laughs) I just hit him with a magazine so it’s ok (laughs), all is cool! JF: (laughs) So what is the creative process for writing for Progressive Rock? It is more music driven than lyric driven. PE: You are correct JF: How do you get that kind of music going on? PE: Usually with Kansas there’s one guy who’s writing a particular song, for many, many years it was Kerry (Livgren) was our main songwriter, but Steve also wrote songs, too, but Kerry was, through a certain part of our career, the main songwriter, and then after a while Steve (Walsh) was the main songwriter and now, starting with the Prelude Implicit, Zak Rizvi is the main songwriter, so it’s the kind of thing where Zak works with Ronnie on lyrics and works with the rest of the guys in the band on middle sections, titles, arrangements and stuff like that but Zak is pretty much the guy who comes in with the biggest chunks of the songs, but then, like with any songwriter, the band has always been involved in the arrangement of the songs and finishing up the songs for their final rendition that you hear, the vocalist always has a lot to do with forming the melodies, the songwriter will have an idea for a melody and the singer takes it to the next stage and stuff like that so all the guys are involved in their own parts, Zak will have certain rhythmic ideas, he leaves the drum parts up to me, everybody is involved overall beginning to end JF: i read that you once filled in for Neil Peart from Rush once, is that true? PE: Ah, no, (laughs) I did a charity event one time with Alex (Lifeson) and Geddy (Lee), it was a charity thing, I played one song, they did a couple of Kansas things, I played one Rush song, no, it was a strictly off the cuff kind of a charity jam thing, i did not fill in for Neil, but that is nice of someone to somehow imagine that! JF: I am sure it would be tough just like trying to have someone fill in for you, someone just can’t drop in and fill in, your stuff is so complicated and so is Rush’s PE: They are good guys and an incredible band, that was back in the 80’s as I remember, it was just a one off at a charity and Alex has a jam thing there and I jumped up and played on the song, it was not anything that was remotely serious, everybody was just having fun and Alex played on “Wayward Son”, it was a fun, fun, jam type thing JF: It didn’t sound like it was an easy switch, that is why I was curious.
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