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Constance I. Slaughter-Harvey April 9, 2010; April 16, 2010; June 4, 2010; June 25, 2010; June 26, 2010; August 12, 2010 Recommended Transcript of Interview with Constance I. Slaughter-Harvey (Apr. 9, 2010; Citation Apr. 16, 2010; June 4, 2010; June 25, 2010; June 26, 2010; Aug. 12, 2010), https://abawtp.law.stanford.edu/exhibits/show/constance-i- slaughter-harvey. Attribution The American Bar Association is the copyright owner or licensee for this collection. Citations, quotations, and use of materials in this collection made under fair use must acknowledge their source as the American Bar Association. Terms of Use This oral history is part of the American Bar Association Women Trailblazers in the Law Project, a project initiated by the ABA Commission on Women in the Profession and sponsored by the ABA Senior Lawyers Division. This is a collaborative research project between the American Bar Association and the American Bar Foundation. Reprinted with permission from the American Bar Association. All rights reserved. Contact Please contact the Robert Crown Law Library at Information [email protected] with questions about the ABA Women Trailblazers Project. Questions regarding copyright use and permissions should be directed to the American Bar Association Office of General Counsel, 321 N Clark St., Chicago, IL 60654-7598; 312-988-5214. ABA Senior Lawyers Division Women Trailblazers in the Law ORAL HISTORY of CONSTANCE SLAUGHTER HARVEY Interviewer: Verna Myers Dates of Interviews: April 9, 2010 April 16, 2010 June 4, 2010 June 25, 2010 June 26, 2010 August12,2010 Oral History of Constance S. Harvey Interview 1 (April 9, 2010) Ms. Myers Good Evening and this is my first interview with Constance Iona Slaughter Harvey and we're doing this for the Oral History Project. It was amazing when I read the definition of the words oral history. Do you agree with that, Constance, that oral history definition is amazing. What do you think it is? Ms. Harvey I think it's a short version of a reading about history. It's a systematic collection of living testimony from people who tell you their own experiences. Oral history opens up Chapters _ of the past and it preserves one's experiences through recordings. Ms. Myers Very good. Now, with that in mind, it just seems like we have oral history for you to present to us. Ms. Harvey Yes ma'am. Ms. Myers The very first thing that we are interested in is you giving me your full name. Ms. Harvey Okay. It's Constance Iona, I-o-n-a, Slaughter and my married name, last name, is Harvey. Ms. Myers Attorney Harvey. Where were you born and what date? Ms. Harvey I was born in Jackson, Mississippi on Farish Street, F-a-r-i-s-h, and I was born at a black hospital, Jeffrey Memorial Hospital, J-e-f-f-r-e-y. I was born June 18, 1946. Ms. Myers: At that time, was that the only hospital in Jackson? 51 I04950vl Ms. Harvey No, there were other hospitals, but this was the only hospital where a black baby could be born in conditions that were not horrible. Ms. Myers Did your parents tell you about how you made your grand entrance into the world? Ms. Harvey My mother said, on many occasions, that I was a painful delivery because I weighed ten pounds. My daddy would also say that I was crying when I came into the world and I've been crying ever since. I assumed he meant that I was complaining. Ms. Myers That sounds good to me. Okay, did your parents grow up together or did they meet later on? Ms. Harvey Mommy and daddy met at Tougaloo, Tougaloo College. She was going to school there and daddy was going to school there also. Now momma had graduated from Tougaloo High School, because Tougaloo had, that's T-o-u-g a-1-o-o, had a high school and a college and it was like a boarding school. Daddy graduated from Lanier, L-a-n-i-e-r, Lanier High School in Jackson and when he finished Lanier, he came to Toµgaloo and that's where he met momma. Ms. Myers And what year are we talking about, them graduating? Ms. Harvey Daddy graduated in 1942. Ms. Myers Okay. Ms. Harvey He started school in 1942 and graduated the year after I was born. 2 51104950vl Ms. Myers Okay. With your parents being that age during that time, how did they both end up in college? Ms. Harvey My mother came from a family that was fairly well-educated. Her father George Kelley "Papa", however, was not an educated man. He taught himself to write and read. They lived in Tougaloo and the college was less than two blocks from where they lived. It was Papa's desire that all of his children go to school and get an education. My father's grandmother graduated from Daniel Hand School, D-a-n-i-e-1, which was like an elementary school to Tougaloo College. Her name was Anna, A-n-n-a, Hayden, H-a-y-d-e-n. Her daughter, who was my grandmother, and daddy's mother, was Fannie, F-a-n n-i-e, Jane, J-a-n-e, Hayden, H-a-y-d-e-n and we called her "Hun," H-u-n. She graduated from Tougaloo High School, which at that time was like a college education. So daddy had no choice but to go to Tougaloo. When he graduated from Lanier, he went to Tougaloo. Well, momma lived two or three blocks from Tougaloo on what is now Kelly Street. They met each other there. Ms. Myers So you guys came from a long line of educators. Ms. Harvey Right. Ms. Myers Was that unusual for people during that time? Ms. Harvey Of course. Very much so. Ms. Myers So how would your family act? Were you snobbish or uppity? Ms. Harvey I don't think you would say snobbish or uppity- 3 5 l l04950vl Ms. Myers Okay. Ms. Harvey I came from good, black individuals and some of my fore-parents, like my great grandmother were half-white. My grandfather, my great grandfather on my mother' side was half-white and Indian. And he was from Bond, B-o-n-d, Mississippi. It was named after my great grandfather's daddy. He had a white family and he had a black family. My great grandfather Jack Edwards, and he lived in Bond which is about 50 miles from the Gulf coast. Daddy's grandmother was a mulatto. Ms. Myers How did you get all this history out of this? Ms. Harvey Well, right now, at my age, I'm not doing as well as I should because I'm forgetting certain things however, the history it was sort of passed along. I'm one who has utmost respect for my elders, and the older I get the more I realize that that's the only way you can really know what you're capable of doing. I always preferred being around the elderly, because I can always travel with them. You didn't have to watch TV, you would sit down and listen to them and they would tell you how things used to be and it just, it's always infatuated me ... and I love history. So, when we would spend the summers with my grandparents, (we lived in the Meridian for awhile and we would come to Jackson and Tougaloo in the summers) and there would be no TV, so you could either play outdoors until it was dark and then go to bed, or you could play awhile, then come in, eat and then listen to how things used to be. I always enjoyed listening to how things used to be. Ms. Myers These half-white relatives that you spoke of-did you ever see them? 4 51104950vl Ms. Harvey My great grandmother, Anna Hayden, on my daddy's side, the one who attended Daniel Hand School, we called her Dandy, D-a-n-d-y, she was, I thought, a pretty woman. You just could see her whiteblood. And she was permitted to go into the white community downtown, which was called the Belhaven Fondren, F-o-n-d-r-e-n, Fondren area. She was permitted to go in because Blacks were not permitted to go there. She was half-white, and could pass for white. She would go in riding in her buggy and buy eggs for black people; and then she would go back on North State Street, go back to Tougaloo, what we called White Oaks Community, where you now have the North Park Mall and County Line Road and Pear Orchard Road. My grandmother, Dandy, is buried there on Avery Boulevard in a family cemetery called J ohrison Cemetery. Ms. Myers Did you ever, or any of you ever go with her to buy these eggs? Ms. Harvey No, no, this is long before we were born. Ms. Myers Okay. Ms. Harvey So that's what I have been told. She was very old and she stayed with my grandmother, Fannie Jane Hayden (Hun) and Papa Percy. She stayed with her and so my grandmother, on my daddy's side, would tell us about these experiences and Dandy, sometimes would tell us, but age had gotten the best of her. At times she would confirm that that happened, and then again, she would look as if she didn't know what was going on.