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Thursday Volume 684 26 November 2020 No. 142 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Thursday 26 November 2020 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2020 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 961 26 NOVEMBER 2020 962 Non-tariff barriers are also a concern for the fishing House of Commons industry, as are tariffs. This week’s test run for post-border transition procedures demonstrated the severe chaos Thursday 26 November 2020 that might be expected in the new year. I am sure that the Minister appreciates fully that seafood products need to be delivered to markets timeously. So what The House met at half-past Nine o’clock assurances can he give to the catching and processing sectors that delays will not equal ruined produce and PRAYERS ruined businesses? George Eustice: We have been working with the fishing [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] industry and local authorities to ensure that they have Virtual participation in proceedings commenced (Order, the capacity in place to employ the environmental health 4 June). officers necessary to issue both the catch certificates [NB: [V] denotes a Member participating virtually.] and the environmental health certificates. We have about 1,000 officers now who can issue export health certificates for fish. It is the case that there are some concerns in BUSINESS BEFORE QUESTIONS Scotland, where the Scottish Government potentially have a gap in capacity of 100. We are working with THE LIFE AND DEATH OF ELIZABETH DIXON:A them to try to offer our help to ensure that that gap can CATALYST FOR CHANGE be filled. Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, That Mr Speaker: I call the SNP spokesperson. she will be graciously pleased to give directions that there be laid before this House a Return of a Paper, entitled The Life and Deidre Brock (Edinburgh North and Leith) (SNP): I, Death of Elizabeth Dixon: A Catalyst for Change,dated 26 November too, associate myself with the Secretary of State’s remarks. 2020.—(James Morris.) That reminds us why this industry is so important to us and why it tugs at our hearts when we hear of such sad events. Oral Answers to Questions Tariffs are a great worry for many other sectors as well. Tariffs of a possible 48% are a huge concern for the sheep sector, so the Secretary of State’s suggestion that sheep farmers could simply switch to beef production ENVIRONMENT, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS if punitive lamb tariffs cause their business models to crash has angered many Scottish farmers and crofters, The Secretary of State for Environment, Food and who have spent many years building up the high reputation Rural Affairs was asked— that Scotch lamb enjoys for quality. The National Sheep Association Scotland has called for assurances that a Fishing Industry: Tariffs compensation scheme will be ready and waiting. What details can he outline today of such a scheme? Richard Thomson (Gordon) (SNP): What discussions he has had with representatives from (a) fishing communities George Eustice: I always advise people to look at and (b) the fish processing sector on the potential effect what I actually said, rather than at the Twitter attacks on the viability of the UK fishing industry of the on what I might have said. I never said that specialist imposition of tariffs after the transition period. [909294] sheep farmers and crofters should diversify into beef; I explicitly said that some of the 7,000 mixed beef and The Secretary of State for Environment, Food and sheep enterprises might choose to produce more beef Rural Affairs (George Eustice): Before I turn to the and less lamb if the price signal suggested that they question, the tragic loss of the Joanna C on Saturday is should. a sad reminder of the dangers that our fishermen face every time they go out to sea. We are all incredibly Martyn Day (Linlithgow and East Falkirk) (SNP) grateful for the bravery and dedication of the Coastguard, [V]: The Scottish Seafood Association has joined other the Royal National Lifeboat Institution and all those food and drink leaders with a recent letter to the Prime involved in the search. Our thoughts are with the families Minister. The message is clear: tariffs mean enormous of Adam Harper and Robert Morley, and all the families damage to our industry, and that is on top of covid and those affected. losses of an estimated £3 billion. So when will the The Government have offered the European Union a Minister reveal details of the financial support that is so free trade agreement along the lines of the EU-Canada clearly desperately needed? one, which would involve zero tariffs on all goods, including fish and fish products.Wehold regular discussions George Eustice: Tariffs on fish, particularly the fish with both the catching sector and the fish processing that we export, are typically far lower than on many sector to discuss the great opportunities that will arise agrifoods. The average tariff on the shellfish that we at the end of the transition period. export is about 8%. Obviously, we would prefer there to be zero tariffs on all goods, and that is the offer that the Richard Thomson: I associate my group with the Government have made to the European Union—in comments of the Minister. It is a timely reminder of the both directions—but the fishing sector generally recognises high price that is sometimes paid for putting food on that, if it needed to pay tariffs, it could pay those tariffs, our plates at home. and the European Union would have to face higher prices. 963 Oral Answers 26 NOVEMBER 2020 Oral Answers 964 Food Security Pollinators Mr Speaker: Question 4 has been withdrawn. If the Sir Roger Gale (North Thanet) (Con): What steps his substantive question cannot be answered, do not worry. Department is taking to reverse the decline in the I call the shadow Minister. population of pollinators. [909298] The Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Daniel Zeichner (Cambridge) (Lab): May I associate Rural Affairs (George Eustice): The national pollinator those on this side of the House with the Secretary of strategy sets out the actions we are taking with partners State’s comments on the appalling loss of the Joanna C? to protect pollinators. It includes dealing with habitat Twenty-six per cent. of our food comes from the loss and the potential harm from pesticide use, invasive European Union, and it is reported that last week the species and climate change. Our future agriculture policies Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs’ will help to improve biodiversity and support habitats head of food security warned industry reps to expect for pollinators, building on existing agri-environment just 40% flow rates. I am sure the Secretary of State will measures to enable many more farmers and land managers want to provide reassurance on that, but as we have to take positive action. already heard, his attempts to placate livestock farmers recently led to some pretty dreadful headlines in the Mr Speaker: Let us head to North Thanet and Sir Roger farming press. “Laughable” was the comment from the Gale. Farmers Guardian. So can he do better today and explain the plans he has in place to keep our food supplies Sir Roger Gale [V]: Thank you, Mr Speaker, from the flowing in just 35 days’ time? garden of England. My right hon. Friend will know that the value to the economy of pollinators is estimated George Eustice: We have worked with industry to at about £691 million. Some 60% of our native pollinators ensure that the capacity is in place to issue export health are in decline, and we have lost 75% of them over the certificates, and we have been contacting meat processors, past 25 years. Will he support me in backing Kent’s fish processors and others in the sector to ensure that Plan Bee, which is seeking to establish 5,000 miles of they are prepared for the new administration that will B-lines across the United Kingdom? be required, and of course we continue to work on George Eustice: That sounds like a very interesting plans to ensure that goods flow at the border. project, and I would certainly be willing to meet my Plastic Pollution right hon. Friend and representatives in Kent to discuss it. Our future environmental land management scheme Laura Trott (Sevenoaks) (Con): What steps he is will encourage the creation of habitats for pollinators, taking to reduce plastic pollution. [909297] and our local nature recovery plans, to be advanced by local authorities, will also have a role to play. The Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Covid-19: Zoos Rural Affairs (George Eustice): The Government have banned the use of microbeads in cosmetics and banned Sir David Amess (Southend West) (Con): What steps the use of plastic straws, stirrers and cotton buds, and he is taking to support zoos during the covid-19 outbreak. the 5p charge for single-use plastic bags has reduced [909299] their use by 95% in the main supermarkets. We are increasing the charge to 10p and extending it to all Mark Jenkinson (Workington) (Con): What steps he retailers. In addition, we are seeking powers in the is taking to support zoos during the covid-19 outbreak. Environment Bill to require similar charges for single-use [909308] plastic items, to make recycling collections more consistent TheParliamentaryUnder-Secretaryof StateforEnvironment, and to reform packaging producer waste responsibility Food and Rural Affairs (Victoria Prentis): In addition to schemes.