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Ref : CB2/HS/2/09 LC Paper No. CB(2)2311/09-10 (These minutes have been seen by the Administration)

Subcommittee on Package of Proposals for the Methods for Selecting the Chief Executive and for Forming the Legislative Council in 2012

Minutes of the fifth meeting held on Saturday, 22 May 2010 from 9:00 am to 1:00 pm and 2:30 pm to 5:30 pm in the Chamber of the Legislative Council Building

Members : Hon TAM Yiu-chung, GBS, JP (Chairman) present Hon Kin-fung, SBS, JP (Deputy Chairman) Hon Albert HO Chun-yan Ir Dr Hon Raymond HO Chung-tai, SBS, S.B.St.J., JP Dr Hon Hon CHEUNG Man-kwong Hon Mrs Sophie LEUNG LAU Yau-fun, GBS, JP Dr Hon Philip WONG Yu-hong, GBS Hon WONG Yung-kan, SBS, JP Hon LAU Kong-wah, JP Hon Miriam LAU Kin-yee, GBS, JP Hon Abraham SHEK Lai-him, SBS, JP Hon Yuet-mee, SC, JP Hon WONG Kwok-hing, MH Hon LEE Wing-tat Hon Andrew LEUNG Kwan-yuen, SBS, JP Hon CHEUNG Hok-ming, GBS, JP Hon WONG Ting-kwong, BBS, JP Prof Hon Patrick LAU Sau-shing, SBS, JP Hon Cyd HO Sau-lan Dr Hon Mei-fun Hon IP Wai-ming, MH Hon IP Kwok-him, GBS, JP Hon Mrs LAU Suk-yee, GBS, JP Dr Hon PAN Pey-chyou Hon Paul TSE Wai-chun Hon Kah-kit, SC Hon

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Members : Hon Wai-hing, JP absent Hon Timothy FOK Tsun-ting, GBS, JP Hon Ka-wah, SC Dr Hon LAM Tai-fai, BBS, JP Hon WONG Kwok-kin, BBS Hon LEUNG Kwok-hung

Public Officers : Mr Stephen LAM Sui-lung attending Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland Affairs

Mr Joshua LAW Chi-kong } for sessions Permanent Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland } One to Three Affairs }

Ms Adeline WONG Ching-man } for sessions Under Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland } Four to Six Affairs }

Ms Joyce HO Kwok-shan } for sessions Principal Assistant Secretary for Constitutional and } One to Three Mainland Affairs }

Mr Curtis LO Kam-fat } Assistant Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland } for sessions Four to Six Affairs }

Attendance by : Session One invitation Mr Stanley LUI

Mr Tomas YUEN

Mr CHAN Chung-yau

Snake Banquet Association Mr CHIN Wai-lok Chairman

Mr LAW Kam-hung

媚共政客監察組 Mr Eric TSUI Chairman

Mr WONG Tung-hiu

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Kowloon Chamber of Commerce Mr LAU Chi-wai, Bernard Chairman

Dynamic Island Mr WU Pat-lun, Felix Spokesperson

Mr CHOW Yiu-ming

青年通識研究組 Miss YIM Man-wa

Hong Kong Federation of Overseas Chinese Associations Mr KO Fung, Frank Member

Nineteen Action Mr KEUNG Ling-cheung

Fortresshill Research Institute Mr AU Nok-hin Research Officer

Session Two

歷史青年聯盟 Mr LO Kin-hei Chairperson

Miss LI Shee-lin

Mr OR Man-shan

公共專業聯盟 Mr Ringo LI

Democracy Depot Miss Vera YUEN

Hong Kong Democratic Foundation Mr George Cautherley

Community TV Mr Kelvin SIT

Community Development Initiative Mr Alan WONG

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The Student Union of the Chinese Mr LAI Yan-ho President

IT Voice Mr LEUNG Siu-cheong

Mr FONG Yin-bun

Abolish Functional Constituencies Mr Michael MO

Tai Kok Tsui District Resident Livelihood Mr CHAN Chung-kit Chairman

Mr LAN Tung-leung

Hong Kong New Territories Commercial and Industrial General Association Limited Mr WONG Chun-fai

Mr PANG Chun-sing, George

Mr HO Siu-ping

Session Three

Mr KWOK Tak-leung

Mr LAU Wai-lun

Mr LEE Kwok-chu

Mr HOU Chun-kau

Mr CHAN Kwok-wai

Hong Kong Fishermen Consortium Mr CHEUNG Siu-keung Chairman

Mr WONG Kwan-tat

Mr CHIK Chun-wah

Mr YU Yuet-charm

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Kowloon City District Resident Association Mr PUN Kwok-wah

Greenradio Mr CHUN Hei-fai

Session Four

女人有明天協會 Ms

愛國愛港聯合陣線 Mr SO Siu-hong

回歸基督精神 Mr LAM Tsz-kin

The Hong Kong Executive, Administrative and Clerical Staff Association Dr WONG Kam-din Vice-Chairman

Mr CHAN Ho-ming

Mr CHAN Tsz-yeung

Democratic Progressive Union of Chinese Social Democrats Mr WONG Ho-ming Standing Committee Member

Mr YUEN Mo

Mr Edmon CHUNG

社會民主聯誼會 Mr Roger LEE

Session Five

Mr CHAN Sze-chung

Mid-level Community Development Association Mr CHEUNG Pak-fun Chairman

Mr TONG Yeuk-fung

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The Association of Chinese Culture of Hong Kong Miss Sylvia LAM Chief Executive

勁松聯誼會 Mr TANG Shek-ching Chairman

Mr FOK Ting-hung

屯動力 Mr CHAN Kwok-leung

Mr LAU Tik-hong

Mr YUEN Hon-wah

Institute of Chinese Cultural Dance Ms CHAN Po-chu, Pearl

Ms MA Suk-yin

Mr SY Hon-keong

Mr KU Sai-lik

九龍東區各界聯會 Mr WONG Siu-yee

Session Six

Mr CHAN Tak-cheong

Mr LAU King-for

Civil Human Rights Front Ms WEI Siu-lik

Women Coalition of HKSAR Ms Wai Wai

Ms CHAN Shu-ying Member of Tuen Mun District Council

Caring Hong Kong Mr LEE Ka-ho

Ms LUI Lin-sang

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Sycamore District Concerning Association of Kowloon West Mr MAK Fuk-chi Chairman

Mr CHAN Ka-wai

Federation of Hong Kong Gongdong Community Organizations Mr WONG Kwok-keung Chairman

Hong Kong Life Saving Society Mr CHAN Wai-lun, Anthony Chairman

Federation of Hong Kong Industries Mr Stanley LAU Deputy Chairman

Power for Democracy Mr Richard TSOI Convenor

Clerk in : Miss Flora TAI attendance Chief Council Secretary (2)3

Staff in : Mr Arthur CHEUNG attendance Senior Assistant Legal Adviser 2

Mrs Eleanor CHOW Senior Council Secretary (2)4

Mrs Fonny TSANG Legislative Assistant (2)3

Miss Lulu YEUNG Clerical Assistant (2)3

Action

I. Meeting with deputations and the Administration [LC Paper Nos. CB(2)1588/09-10(01) to (30), CB(2)1598/09-10(01) to (11) and CB(2)1701/09-10(01) to (09)]

2. The Subcommittee received views from a total of 79 individuals and organizations (index of proceedings attached at Annex). - 8 - Action

2. The Chairman informed members that the Subcommittee would continue to receive views from the public at its next meeting to be held on 25 May 2010 from 2:30 pm to 7:30 pm.

3. The meeting ended at 5:45 pm.

Council Business Division 2 Legislative Council Secretariat 28 September 2010 Annex

Proceedings of the fifth meeting of the Subcommittee on Package of Proposals for the Methods for Selecting the Chief Executive and for Forming the Legislative Council in 2012 on Saturday, 22 May 2010 from 9:00 am to 1:00 pm and 2:30 pm to 5:30 pm in the Chamber of the Legislative Council Building

Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required Session One (9:00 am - 10:15 am)

000333 - 000734 Chairman Opening remarks

Meeting with deputations to receive views on the package of proposals for the methods for selecting the Chief Executive ("CE") and for forming the Legislative Council ("LegCo') in 2012 ("the proposed package")

000735 - 001014 Mr Stanley LUI Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(01)]

001015 - 001227 Mr Tomas YUEN Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(02)]

001228 - 001510 Mr CHAN Chung-yau Presentation of views

001511 - 001754 Snake Banquet Association Presentation of views

001755 - 002107 Mr LAW Kam-hung Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(01)]

002108 - 002429 媚共政客監察組 Presentation of views

002430 - 002659 Mr WONG Tung-hiu Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(01)]

002700 - 002737 Kowloon Chamber of Presentation of views Commerce

002738 - 003101 Dynamic Island Presentation of views

003102 - 003251 Mr CHOW Yiu-ming Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(02)]

003252 - 003559 青年通識研究組 Presentation of views

003600 - 003911 Hong Kong Federation of Presentation of views Overseas Chinese [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(03)] Associations

003912 - 004230 Nineteen Action Presentation of views

004231 - 004536 Fortresshill Research Institute Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(03)]

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 004537 - 004554 Chairman Speaking order of members

004555 - 005100 Chairman Discussion on whether the Administration should provide Dr Margaret NG a roadmap on universal suffrage and undertake to abolish Mr LAW Kam-hung functional constituencies ("FCs") when universal suffrage was implemented and how LegCo FC Members would be agreeable to an ultimate abolition of FCs

005101 - 005619 Chairman Discussion on reasons for supporting the proposed Mr LEE Wing-tat package in which the FC system would be retained Kowloon Chamber of Commerce 青年通識研究組

005620 - 010131 Chairman Discussion on the compromise between the Administration Ms Cyd HO and Members on the political reform of Hong Kong, and Mr Tomas YUEN whether the compromise should be made at the expense of Mr Stanley LUI democratic development

010132 - 010653 Chairman Discussion on young people's views on the proposed Miss Tanya CHAN package, in particular the retention of FCs 媚共政客監察組 Nineteen Action Fortresshill Research Institute Dynamic Island

010654 - 011014 Chairman Discussion on how to secure a two-thirds majority of Dr Margaret NG LegCo Members to support the abolition of FCs, and the Snake Banquet Association role of people in this regard 青年通識研究組

011015 - 011734 Chairman Administration's responses to the deputations' views Administration

011735 - 011955 Chairman Removal of Mr CHAN Chung-yau, Mr CHIN Wai-lok and Mr KEUNG Ling-cheung from the meeting

Session Two (10:15 am - 11:30 am)

011956 - 012208 Chairman Opening remarks

012209 - 012432 Miss LI Shee-lin Presentation of views

012433 - 012545 Mr OR Man-shan Presentation of views

012546 - 012855 公共專業聯盟 Presentation of views

012856 - 013206 Democracy Depot Presentation of views

013207 - 013512 Hong Kong Democratic Presentation of views Foundation [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(04)]

013513 - 013753 Community TV Presentation of views

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 013754 - 014005 Community Development Presentation of views Initiative [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(04)]

014006 - 014245 The Student Union of the Presentation of views Chinese University of Hong Kong

014246 - 014546 IT Voice Presentation of views

014547 - 014646 Mr FONG Yin-bun Presentation of views

014647 - 014936 Abolish Functional Presentation of views Constituencies [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(05)]

014937 - 015226 Tai Kok Tsui District Presentation of views Resident Livelihood

015227 - 015430 Mr LAN Tung-leung Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(06)]

015431 - 015637 Hong Kong New Territories Presentation of views Commercial and Industrial [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(07)] General Association Limited

015638 - 015752 Mr PANG Chun-sing, George Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(09)]

015753 - 015941 Mr HO Siu-ping Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(10)]

015942 - 020250 歷史青年聯盟 Presentation of views

020251 - 020302 Chairman Speaking order of members

020303 - 020810 Chairman Discussion on the correlation between the political Mr Albert HO structure of Hong Kong and the wide income disparity Hong Kong New Territories within the community, whether there was collusion Commercial and Industrial between the Government and conglomerate and how better General Association Limited governance would be achieved to address social problems IT Voice more effectively Hong Kong Democratic Foundation

020811 - 021322 Chairman Discussion on whether FCs should be retained and if not, Dr PAN Pey-chyou how to address the concerns of the people who were in Tai Kok Tsui District support of retaining the system Resident Livelihood Community TV 歷史青年聯盟

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 021323 - 021829 Chairman Discussion on unfairness of the split voting system under Dr Margaret NG which proposals, especially those concerning livelihood The Student Union of the issues, put forth by geographical constituency ("GC") Chinese University of Hong Members who were returned by 3.3 million voters could Kong be vetoed by FC Members who were returned by 230 000 Democracy Depot voters only Tai Kok Tsui District Resident Livelihood

021830 - 022334 Chairman Discussion on the checks and balances on the Government Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong to be exercised by LegCo, retention of FCs, and fairness of Tai Kok Tsui District the split voting system Resident Livelihood Abolish Functional Constituencies Miss LI Shee-lin

022335 - 023313 Chairman Administration's responses to deputations' views Administration

023314 - 024427 Break

Session Three (11:40 am - 1:00 pm)

024428 - 024624 Chairman Opening remarks

024625 - 024920 Mr KWOK Tak-leung Presentation of views

024921 - 025139 Mr LAU Wai-lun Presentation of views

025140 - 025409 Mr LEE Kwok-chu Presentation of views

025410 - 025612 Mr HOU Chun-kau Presentation of views

025613 - 025745 Mr CHAN Kwok-wai Presentation of views

025746 - 025907 Hong Kong Fishermen Presentation of views Consortium

025908 - 030056 Mr WONG Kwan-tat Presentation of views

030057 - 030307 Mr CHIK Chun-wah Presentation of views

030308 - 030432 Mr YU Yuet-charm Presentation of views

030433 - 030724 Kowloon City District Presentation of views Resident Association [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(12)]

030725 - 030916 Greenradio Presentation of views

030917 - 030939 Chairman Speaking order of members

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 030940 - 031442 Chairman Discussion on the split voting system, retention of FCs and Dr Margaret NG results of opinion polls on the proposed package Mr WONG Kwan-tat Mr CHAN Kwok-wai

031443 - 031949 Chairman Discussion on the role and functions of FCs, the risk of Dr PAN Pey-chyou populism if all LegCo Members were returned by GC Mr WONG Kwan-tat elections, retention of FCs, and whether the electorates of Mr CHIK Chun-wah FCs were too small Mr YU Yuet-charm Mr LAU Wai-lun Hong Kong Fishermen Consortium

031950 - 032456 Chairman Discussion on the merits of the FC system Mr Jeffrey LAM Mr LAU Wai-lun Mr WONG Kwan-tat

032457 - 033002 Chairman Discussion on the merits of retaining FCs and the split Ms Miriam LAU voting system, and on the support of the real estate agent Mr KWOK Tak-leung sector for the proposed package Greenradio

033003 - 033509 Chairman Discussion on unfairness of the FC system and the split Mr CHEUNG Man-kwong voting system Mr CHAN Kwok-wai

033510 - 034016 Chairman Discussion on the retention of FCs and concerns about Ms Audrey EU populism Mr WONG Kwan-tat

034017 - 034431 Chairman Discussion on the issue of populism, the nomination Ms Cyd HO procedures for the election of CE and the roadmap for Mr WONG Kwan-tat constitutional reform in the next 10 years

034432 - 034944 Chairman Discussion on the retention of FCs Mrs Sophie LEUNG Hong Kong Fishermen Consortium

034945 - 035604 Chairman Administration's responses to deputations' views Administration

035605 - 053110 Lunch break

Session Four (2:30 pm - 3:30 pm)

053111 - 053314 Chairman Opening remarks

053315 - 053608 女人有明天協會 Presentation of views

053609 - 053934 愛國愛港聯合陣線 Presentation of views

053935 - 054244 回歸基督精神 Presentation of views - 6 -

Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 054245 - 054550 The Hong Kong Executive, Presentation of views Administrative and Clerical [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(13)] Staff Association

054551 - 054647 Mr CHAN Ho-ming Presentation of views

054648 - 054838 Mr CHAN Tsz-yeung Presentation of views

054839 - 055144 Democratic Progressive Presentation of views Union of Chinese Social Democrats

055145 - 055458 Mr YUEN Mo Presentation of views

055459 - 055816 Mr Edmon CHUNG Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(14)]

055817 - 060123 社會民主聯誼會 Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(05)]

060124 - 060151 Chairman Speaking order of members

060152 - 060657 Chairman Discussion about the debate to be held between CE and Mr WONG Kwok-hing Ms Audrey EU on 17 June 2010 and the Administration's The Hong Kong Executive, stance towards the LegCo By-election held on Administrative and Clerical 16 May 2010 Staff Association

060658 - 061205 Chairman Discussion on whether the proposed package had Administration enhanced the democratic element in the CE and LegCo Mr LEE Wing-tat elections, whether the proposed package should be The Hong Kong Executive, supported, the retention of FCs, and the split voting system Administrative and Clerical Staff Association 回歸基督精神

061206 - 061717 Chairman Discussion on whether the proposed package should be Dr Margaret NG supported, whether it had enhanced the democratic 女人有明天協會 element in the CE and LegCo elections, the retention of The Hong Kong Executive, FCs, and the split voting system Administrative and Clerical Staff Association 社會民主聯誼會

061718 - 062239 Chairman Discussion on the call for besieging LegCo on Dr PAN Pey-chyou 23 June 2010 愛國愛港聯合陣線 回歸基督精神 社會民主聯誼會 Mr Edmon CHUNG Democratic Progressive Union of Chinese Social Democrats Dr Margaret NG

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 062240 - 062817 Administration Administration's responses to deputations' views Chairman

062818 - 062911 Chairman Ordering the removal of Mr SO Siu-hong, Mr LAM Tsz-kin, Mr WONG Ho-ming and Mr Roger LEE from the meeting

062912 - 063222 Administration Administration's responses to concerns raised by members Chairman

Session Five (3:30 pm - 4:30 pm)

063352 - 063539 Chairman Opening remarks

063540 - 063900 Mr CHAN Sze-chung Presentation of views

063901 - 064210 Mid-level Community Presentation of views Development Association [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(02)]

064211 - 064506 Mr TONG Yeuk-fung Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(03)]

064507 - 064816 The Association of Chinese Presentation of views Culture of Hong Kong [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(15)]

064817 - 065124 勁松聯誼會 Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(06)]

065125 - 065433 Mr FOK Ting-hung Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(04)]

065434 - 065629 屯動力 Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(05)]

065630 - 065804 Mr LAU Tik-hong Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(16)]

065805 - 070049 Mr YUEN Hon-wah Presentation of views [LC Paper Nos. CB(2)1588/09-10(17) and CB(2)1701/09-10(06)]

070050 - 070324 Institute of Chinese Cultural Presentation of views Dance [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(18)]

070325 - 070600 Ms MA Suk-yin Presentation of views

070601 - 070752 Mr SY Hon-keong Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(07)]

070753 - 071014 Mr KU Sai-lik Presentation of views

071015 - 071252 九龍東區各界聯會 Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(19)]

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 071253 - 071324 Chairman Speaking order of members

071325 - 071626 Chairman Discussion on the need for the community and the Mr Jeffrey LAM legislature to maintain harmony in the discussion of Mid-level Community constitutional reform Development Association

071627 - 071941 Chairman Discussion on the approach adopted by some young people Dr PAN Pey-chyou of the post-80s generation in pursuing constitutional Mr SY Hon-keong reform Mr KU Sai-lik Mr LAU Tik-hong

071942 - 072326 Chairman Discussion on whether the proposed package should be Mr Alan LEONG supported, whether society could maintain harmony when 九龍東區各界聯會 there was unfairness in the FC system and the split voting Mr CHAN Sze-chung system, and how LegCo Members could resolve the dispute on the issue of FCs among themselves

072327 - 072628 Mr LEE Wing-tat Expression of views that the ultimate abolition of the FC system which had existed for over 25 years was not a drastic move and that CE should resign under Article 52 of the Basic Law if the proposed package was vetoed by LegCo

072629 - 072941 Chairman Discussion on whether the ultimate abolition of the FC Mr Albert HO system which had existed for over 25 years was too 九龍東區各界聯會 drastic, and whether the proposed package should be supported when abolition of FCs in 2020 for the implementation of universal suffrage remained to be uncertain

072942 - 073410 Chairman Discussion on the duty of LegCo Members to scrutinize Mr LAU Kong-wah the proposed package in a practical manner, dissolution of Mr LEE Wing-tat LegCo and resignation of CE under Article 52 of the Basic Law if the proposed package was vetoed by LegCo, and timetable for implementing universal suffrage

073411 - 073603 Mrs Sophie LEUNG Appreciation of deputations' views on the proposed package and their expectation on LegCo Members to be broad-minded and be accommodating

073604 - 074030 Chairman Administration's responses to the views expressed by Administration deputations and members

Session Six (4:30 pm - 5:25 pm)

074807 - 075007 Chairman Opening remarks

075008 - 075227 Mr CHAN Tak-cheong Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(20)]

075228 - 075324 Mr LAU King-for Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1588/09-10(21)]

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 075325 - 075519 Civil Human Rights Front Presentation of views

075520 - 075710 Women Coalition of HKSAR Presentation of views

075711 - 080023 Ms CHAN Shu-ying, Presentation of views member of Tuen Mun [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(08)] District Council

080024 - 080258 Caring Hong Kong Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1701/09-10(09)]

080259 - 080312 Ms LUI Lin-sang Presentation of views

080313 - 080524 Sycamore District Presentation of views Concerning Association of Kowloon West

080525 - 080657 Mr CHAN Ka-wai Presentation of views [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(07)]

080658 - 080821 Federation of Hong Kong Presentation of views Gongdong Community Organizations

080822 - 081131 Hong Kong Life Saving Presentation of views Society

081132 - 081440 Federation of Hong Kong Presentation of views Industries [LC Paper No. CB(2)1598/09-10(08)]

081441 - 081750 Power for Democracy Presentation of views

081751 - 081811 Chairman Speaking order of members

081812 - 082112 Mr LEE Wing-tat Expression of the view that the pace of constitutional reform in Hong Kong had lagged behind the development of society and reiteration of the view that CE should resign under Article 52 of the Basic Law if the proposed package was vetoed by LegCo

082113 - 082451 Chairman Discussion on the need to compromise in order for Mr Andrew LEUNG constitutional reform to move forward, impact on society Federation of Hong Kong if the proposed package was vetoed, and whether FCs Gongdong Community should be retained Organizations Federation of Hong Kong Industries

082452 - 082750 Dr Margaret NG Expression of views about the impact of the FC system on the work of LegCo and why such an unfair system should be abolished as soon as practicable

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Time Marker Speaker(s) Subject(s) Action required 082751 - 083058 Mr LAU Kong-wah Expression of views on the work of FC Members, the need for constitutional reform to move forward, and impact on society if the proposed package was vetoed

083059 - 083133 Mr LEE Wing-tat Expression of views that the proposed package was retrogressive

083134 - 083438 Chairman Discussion on the need to maintain harmony in the Mr Jeffrey LAM discussion of constitutional reform, impact on society if Federation of Hong Kong the proposed package was vetoed, and timetable for the Industries implementation of universal suffrage

083439 - 083750 Chairman Discussion on whether FC Members attached importance Ms Cyd HO to the principle of equal opportunities for people with a Women Coalition of HKSAR different sexual orientation and ethnic minorities Civil Human Rights Front

083751 - 084128 Chairman Discussion on the work of FC Members, unfounded Ms Miriam LAU criticism against FC Members, FC Members' position on Power for Democracy equal opportunities and related issues, and whether FCs should be retained

084129 - 084531 Chairman Administration's responses to the views expressed by Administration deputations and members

084532 - 084617 Chairman Date of next meeting

Closing remarks

Council Business Division 2 Legislative Council Secretariat 28 September 2010