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1985 NGA Winter Meeting ~ll~SCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS NATIONAL GOVERNORS' ASSOCIATION WINTER MEETING PLENARY SESSION • -- t Washington, D. C. Sunday, February 24, 1985 ACE-FEDERAL REPoRTERS, INC. Stenotype Reporters 444 North Capitol Street Washington, D.C. 20001 (202) 347·3700 ~~~wide Coverage 800..336-6646 1 CR22159.0 COX/sjg NATIONAL GOVERNORS' ASSOCIATION 2 WINTER MEETING 3 PLENARY SESSION Hyatt Regency Capitol Hill Regency Ballroom 5 400 New Jersey Avenue, N.W. Washington, D. C. 6 7 Sunday, February 24, 1985 8 The plenary session of the winter meeting convened at 9 3:00 p.m., Governor Carlin presiding. 10 11 12 13 14 I lS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 i Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 25 22159.0 2 cox 1 PRO C E E DIN G S 2 GOVERNOR CARLIN: If the Governors would take 3 their seats, we will proceed. I would like to call this 4 first plenary session to order of our 1985 winter meeting 5 here in Washington. Given the time and the effort that 6 was made in the Executive Committee, a fine discussion, 7 the decision we had made and given the excellent program 8 we have, we are going to move this agenda as fast as 9 possible and limit my opening comments only to two things. 10 One, I certainly want to welcome all new Governors to 11 their first opportunity to gather with us here in 12 Washington. 13. I am not going to introduce you individually or 14 take any time, but that's in no disrespect to your 15 importance to this body. You are aware of the agenda, so 16 I am not going to take time to repeat it. We have got a 17 very aggressive, I think very positive, very significant 18 agenda. It is only going to be valuable with your 19 participation. So I encourage you to take advantage of 20 the opportunity you have between now and Tuesday evening. 21 I would like to calIon Governor Alexander for a 22 motion technically that we need to approve regarding the 23 adoption of the rules of procedure. 24 GOVERNOR ALEXANDER: Move that we adopt the 25 rules of procedure of the NGA. 22159.0 3 cox 1 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Second. 2 GOVERNOR CARLIN: Governor Sununu has seconded 3 that motion. Any discussion? All in favor say "aye." 4 (Chorus of ayes.) 5 GOVERNOR CARLIN: The motion was carried to 6 adopt the rules of procedure. 7 We are honored this afternoon to have with us 8 two distinguished guests, Senator Dole and Dr. Greenspan. 9 We are going to go to Senator Dole first. Dr. Greenspan 10 agreed to that order. I don't know what he has in plan -- 11 it's alphabetical, okay. 12 Our procedure here will be to listen to the . 13 presentation by Senator Dole and then we·will have an 14 opportunity to ask him some questions, so that if his 15 schedule demands, he will have the opportunity to exit and 16 then we will hear from Dr. Greenspan, questions for 17 Dr. Greenspan, and then as indicated in your program we 18 have three Governors who will make presentations as we 19 continue our discussion and our debate on the budget and 20 the deficit issue. 21 There are a lot of things that I could say in 22 introducing Senator Dole. But given the fact that I am 23 more interested, as I indicated to our distinguished 24 guests in the Executive Committee in what they have to say 25 and the opportunity to discuss with them, I am only going 22159.0 4 cox '" 1 to add that as Governor of Kansas it is my pleasure to 2 present to this body the senior Senator from Kansas, the 3 majority floor leader and certainly one of the key 4 individuals in this country today, one of the key leaders 5 in this budget debate. I ask you to join with me in 6 welcoming Senator Dole. 7 (Applause. ) 8 SENATOR DOLE: Governor Carlin, I thank you very 9 much. I guess -- well, I guess I am very happy to be here. 10 I will know more later. But I am very pleased to be "on 11 the program, and I want to think my distinguished Governor. 12 The Governor called me several months ago. I 13 was out buying a new suit. And the Governor called me and 14 said, "I have decided not to run for the Senate in 186, II 15 so I bought two new suits. So I want to thank you, 16 Governor, and I appreciate that very much. 17 I know you have had a session with Pete Domenici 18 and his counterpart in the House, and I have just a few 19 remarks. I would rather exchange' some ideas and try to 20 respond to questions. Maybe you have questions that will 21 stimulate us in the United States Senate. 22 I do want to indicate that those who have 23 already indicated that the budget process was dead, I 24 think the obituaries around this town are really premature. 25 As you probably were told in the executive session, at 22159.0 5 cox 1 least on the Senate side, we have completed hearings in 2 the Budget Committee. In the next two weeks, you are 3 going to see a lot of action in the Budget Committee, and 4 I am certain that you will see action on the House side, 5 because we are serious. We are very serious about 6 reducing the Federal deficit. 7 Now, you wouldn't know that from the last two or 8 three days around this place, but we weren't discussing 9 the deficit, really, we were discussing nominations and 10 the farm credit crisis and other things that are very 11 important to many Governors and many of us in the Congress. 12 There are those of us who are trying to grapple 13 •.with the problem of record Federal deficits. and .we are 14 very much aware of some of the great examples that have 15 been set by the states. 16 Now I have had a chance to visit Governors when 17 I was Chairman of the Finance Committee. I have had 18 disagreements with Governors and the Governors' 19 Associations because they always came to town saying "Cut 20 the Federal deficit," but on the way out of town they 21 asked for a little more money in a number of programs. 22 But I am very encouraged by what I see and what I read 23 that you are not here just advocating higher Federal taxes 24 and defense cuts as a way to solve our deficit problem, 25 because I believe if we are going to succeed, we have to 22159.0 6 cox 1 make certain that there is a shared sacrifice or a shared 2 contribution. 3 And if there are enough of us in the Congress, 4 and I believe there are, enough Democrats and enough 5 Republicans who are willing to take the heat and we are 6 going to be more willing to take the heat if we know our 7 Governors, regardless of their party, are sharing that 8 burden to some extent at the state level, at least 9 encouraging us to do what we should do -- then I believe 10 we are going to come to grips with this thing called the 11 Federal deficit. 12 Now, I would indicate it's going to take Federal 13 leade~ship:. it'~ a Federal problem, but. it's our problem, 14 it's your problem. I would admit that there are some who 15 say it's going to disappear with growth, and I think 16 growth is probably the most important factor in deficit 17 reduction, but I don't share the view that growth is going 18 to make it go away. 19 So what I see are some who say don't do 20 anything: Don't cut spending, don't cut defense, don't 21 raise taxes, just wait for growth. But I don't believe 22 that's the prevailing view in this town. It's not the 23 President's view, it's a view held by a very small 24 minority, and I hope you will see some action in the next • 25 30 days in the Senate that will lead you to believi that 22159.0 7 cox 1 we are serious about what we should do and what you would 2 ask us to do as you work on your resolutions or whatever 3 you may be saying. 4 We are pretty much in accord with the Governors. 5 We think the deficit ought to be about 2 percent of GNP by 6 the end of fiscal year 1988. I understand from reading 7 some of your preliminary studies, that's about where you 8 would like to have it. Still not a balanced budget, but 9 it's a sharp drop in the deficit. 10 Now, as we look at our problems in comparison 11 with the states, of course we envy some of the states with 12 surpluses. Some of the states are able to cut taxes. 13 But we also ~nderstand that much of that is because of 14 prudent fiscal management in those states and the good 15 economy and a lot of other things that have happened in 16 the past four years.
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