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SEARCHABLE Journal 2002.Pdf RUISLIP, NORTHWOOD AND EASTCOTE LOCAL HISTORY SOCIETY JOURNAL 2002 Re/. Contents Author Page Committee Members ii Lecture Programme 2002-2003 ii 02/1 WELL GREEN, EASTCOTE Eileen M. Bowlt 1 02/2 RAMIN, Eastcote High Road, Eastcote, Middlesex Patricia Clarke 14 02/3 THE OLD SHOOTING BOX, Eastcote High Road, Eastcote, Middlesex Patricia Oarke 22 02/4 THE MOORE FAMILY OF EASTCOTE Colleen Cox 24 02/5 FORE STREET, EASTCOTE Denise Shackell 28 02/6 COINODENCES AND CONNECTIONS The Barters and the Powells Karen Spink 34 02/7 THRILLS AND SWOON IN EASTCOTE Mary Pache 41 02/8 EXPERIENCES OF WORKING ON THE H047 SERIES OF RECORDS AT THE PUBLIC RECORD OFFICE Susan Toms 45 02/9 COINS FROM A RUISLIP ARCHAEOLOGICAL EXCAVATION Colin Bowlt 48 02/10 NATIONAL LOCAL HISTORY WEEK - 4 to 12 MAY 2002 49 02/11 Obituary - JIM GOLLAND [essica Eastwood 56 Cover picture: The Old Shooting Box, Eastcote 1973 (Denise Shackell) Designed and edited by Brian Grisdale Copyright © November 2002 individual authors and RNELHS. Membership of the Ruislip, Nortlrwood and Eastcote Local History Society is open TO all who are interested in local history. For further information please enquire at a meeting of the Society OR contact the Membership Secretary. Meetings are held ON the third Monday of each month from September TO April and are open TO visitors. (Advance booking is requiredfor the Christmas social.) An active Research Group SUPPORTS those who are enquiring into OR wishing to increase OUR understanding of the history of the ancient parish of Ruislip (the present Ruislip, Northwood and Eastcote). Its members are largely responsiblefor the papers in this Journal, and for other Society publications which are producedfrom time TO time. Ruislip, Northwood &-. Eastcote i Journal 2002 Local History Society Ruislip, Northwood and Eastcote Local History Society Registered Charily No. 288234 WNN.RNELHS.fIyer.co.uk COMMITTEE 2002-2003 President Leonard Krause 01923 836074 Chairman Eileen Bowlt 01895 638060 7 Croft Gardens, Ruislip HA48EY Secretary Susan Toms 01895 637134 3 Elmbridge Close, Ruislip HA4 7XA Treasurer Jessica Eastwood 0208 621 5379 68 Nibthwaite Road, Harrow HA! TG Membership Secretary Delia Montlake 01895 676663 34b Eastcote Road, Ruislip HA4 8DQ Editor Brian Grisdale 01895 673299 Outings Organiser Sylvia Ladyman 01895 673305 Minutes Carol Butler 01895 632939 Simon Morgan 01923 827188 Eric Spanier 01895 636026 Karen Spink 0208 866 7279 LECTURE PROGRAMME 2002-2003 2002 September 16 A Century of Cinema in the UK Tony Moss October 21 Ruislip Maps through the Ages (& AGM) Simon Morgan November 18 Isambard Kingdom Brunel Trevor Burnard December 16 Herga Consort of Early Music Derek McLean 2003 January 20 London Bible College Peter Cotterell Febmary17 London before Londinium [on Cotton March 17 Ancient Ruislip Houses Eileen Bowlt April28 C1erkenwell Alan Cox Meetings are on Mondays at 8.15 pm and are held in St. Martin's Church Hall, Ruislip. Ruislip, Northwood & Eastcote ii Journal 2002 Local History Society WELL GREEN, EASTCOTE Ramin, the Old Shooting Box and Park Cottages / Jacobean Cottages by Eileen M. Bowlt Ramin and The Old Shooting Box, the part of Cheney Street; Field End Road was subjects of Pat Oarke's articles in this journal, Oay Street Hill. historically stand at Well Green alias Long Marsh, although .their present address is Only two house names occur, 'Hopkyttes' High Road, Eastcote. Three cottages called which later became Eastcote House Park Cottages, later Jacobean Cottages, stood (demolished 1964) and 'Plucketts's which is on the road edge to one side of the Old now Eastcote Cottage on the corner of Field Shooting Box unti11926. End Road and the High Road. This paper sets out to explain the exact In 1565 there were six dwelling houses and position of Well Green and the historical cottages between Fore Street and Field End background of the two houses and the three Road described as lying north against Well cottages. It should be read in conjunction Green alias Long Marsh. They can be with my article 'The Grange at Well Green, identified with the site of New Cottages, Flag Eastcote' in last year's journal.' Cottage, the site of Eastcote Lodge (now Flag Walk), the site of The Black Horse, the Old WELL GREEN alias LONG MARSH Bam House and Eastcote Cottage. Three of them, Flag Cottage, the Old Bam House and Well Green alias Long Marsh in 1565. Eastcote Cottage, are listed buildings, dating The King's College Terrier of 15652 names at least in part from the sixteenth century and part of Eastcote as 'Well Green alias Long therefore substantially the same as those Marsh'. It seems to have been open land mentioned in the Terrier. situated between the River Pinn and Eastcote High Road, from the bottom of Fore Street to The High Road runs along the southern edge Catlins Lane. Beyond that point as far as of what was Well Green alias Long Marsh. Cheney Street, the land between the road and The petrol station, Deans Cottage, The Rosery the river was occupied by two houses with and the Old Forge now stand on the former outbuildings and their pastures. They marsh. One section remains open space and survived into the nineteenth century, has been renamed Forge Green because of the appearing on the 1806 Enclosure Map' but proximity of Tapping's blacksmith's forge in not on the 1865 Ordnance Survey. Their sites the early twentieth century. are now part of the public open space called the Long Meadow. Eastcote House was owned by Ralph Hawtrey. The description in the Terrier One of the problems of working with reads: 'Ralph Hawtrey holds one cottage historical documents is that houses are only called Hopkyttes with an orchard and TWO closes rarely given a name and streets often had of 4 acres and it lies at Well Green and it abuts different names from those in use at the north ONTO Well Green.....' present day. Once Eastcote High Road crosses the Pinn on It should be noted that in Elizabethan times the Long Bridge, it runs along the northern Catlins Lane was known as Popes End Lane; edge of Well Green alias Long Marsh. The the road from Catlins Lane to the junction of Terrier mentions two houses that can be Cheney Street was called Cocowes (i.e. identified as the present Grange and Ramin, Cuckoos) Lane; modem Cuckoo Hill was as abutting south onto Well Green. RuisIip, Northwood &: Eastcote 1 Journal 2002 Local History Society One of the demolished houses opposite the Old Shooting Box had not then been built. bottom of Catlins Lane was said to lie west against Well Green. Seventeenth century documents refer only to Well Green, the 'alias Long Marsh' seemingly Thus Well Green alias Long Marsh was having been dropped. defined in 1565. The building that is now the Fig.1. Map of Well Green as described in the King's College Terrier 1565 Well Green is shown hatched and superimposed upon the 1897OS 6in. Map. The Enclosure Map and Award 1806-14 It would not be surprising if Well Green had The Ruislip Enclosure Map of 1806 marks the a similar spring or well. area in front of Eastcote House as Well Green and interestingly shows a circular pond, well Well Green had been common waste, or possibly spring, with a watercourse probably because it was boggy and leading from it into the River Pinn. A unproductive. It was being enclosed in 1806. circular depression can clearly be seen today Ralph Deane, the descendant of the in the meadow directly opposite the Grange. Hawtreys, who inherited Eastcote House Could this possibly be the source of the during the Enclosure upheaval, was allotted name Well Green? Further west at the back the portion between the walled garden and of Park Avenue, there used to be a spring, the High Road numbered on the map as New known as 'the boiling spring' that fed into the Enclosure 122. This is now part of the public Pinn and only dried up when suburban open space. houses were built," Ruislip, Northwood & Eastcote 2 Journal 2002 Local History Society Another portion, New Enclosure 123,went to Part of what is now Forge Green was also 'the trustees of the late Mrs Rogers'. She was granted to Ralph Deane and the section Elizabeth Rogers who had died in 1803 and opposite Eastcote Lodge was given to John under whose will Ralph Deane eventually Hingeston, its owner. inherited Eastcote House and its estate in 1810.6 Fig. 2. Eastcote Park/Jacobean The Enclosure Map 1806 Grange Cottages Ramin Well Green Grange remained in the hands of the Feme RAMIN family until well into the seventeenth James Feme owned both The Grange and century. However, it must be said that the Ramin in 1565,neither of course being named absence of names makes the precise identity at the time. Two closes of land and orchards, of 'a cottage at Well Green' a little difficult. amounting to 4 acres, went with the two Identification has been achieved partly by a cottages. The land extended to Pope's End process of elimination and also from the Lane (Catlins Lane). For the sake of clarity I description of the position of the dwellings. shall use the modem names in relation to The existence of Abstracts of Title relating to these two properties. The Grange, taken in conjunction with the Court Books, made a positive identification From Court Books covering the years 1590- of that property possible" but that of Ramin is 16817 it appears that Ramin as well as The conjectural. Ruislip, Northwood & Eastcote 3 Journal 2002 Local History Society [ohanna Feme seems to have been in Pritchard family ownership c1800-1922 possession of the cottage now called Ramin The next definite information about in the 1660s and sought a licence at the ownership comes in the Enclosure Award Manor Court held on the 26 Apri11667 to let and Map 1806-1814.11The cottage stands in it for nine years.
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