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no.264 may-june 2012 IBHOF 2012 Scrapbook 1 JO SPORTS, INC. BOXING SALE VISIT OUR WEBSITE: www.josportsinc.com A Rating System for Boxing Memorabilia Thousands Of Boxing Items For Sale! Helpful OR is it just as valuable as... "It has a good beat and is easy to dance to, I give it an 85." TO MY FRIEND OF OVER 25 YEARS HARRY SHAFFER- REST IN PEACE TO ONE OF THE BEST BOXING HISTORIANS. YOU’LL BE So how about a rating system for vintage material. What? Now lets have some fun. Let's say each of these catego- MISSED! Okay, it is actually what I have been thinking about for some ries gets a max of 10 points except rarity which has a max of 15. SPECIAL ITEMS: time. I am NOT suggesting here another plastic encapsulated Someone wants to trade you a near mint Robinson-LaMotta VI 1. MUHAMMAD ALI SIGNED TRAINING PUNCH- SGC/PSA/DNA/BS rating thingee, I am suggesting a system program for your very good Louis-Godoy I program from MSG. ING BAG: Everlast Gyro speed punching bag. whereby we can compare and discuss vintage material in a man- Maximum points is 65 and remember it has to be program for Labeled on the front in red, “1978 ALI CAMP Deer ner that says what we think of its relative value, particularly in a program so we are okay there. LOOK- R-L wins 8 to 4. Nice cartoon cover versus MSG Lake, Pa.” Signed on the reverse side in gold, Love trade. Now do I have your attention? standard cover. Muhammad Ali 1978.” Ali has also painted a heart All vintage boxing material has, in my view, 6 character- istics we subconsciously evaluate when we look at a piece, be it RARITY - L-G wins 15 to 6. Both rare but I have seen next to the date. $4,000.00 a $20 item or $20,000 item. But before we start I am suggesting exactly 2 L-G's in my life. 2. MUHAMMAD ALI SIGNED TRAINING CAMP we always do apples to apples here. I would compare posters to HISTORICAL - R-L wins 7 to 6. A great fight versus a WATER BOTTLE: Glass bottle which has been cov- other posters, cards to other cards, etc. since each has its collector frustrating fight for Louis. ered with tape. Marked “Ali” in black marker in the preferences. That is some people don't like cards as much as they FIGHTER - a tie at 8-8. hand of Wali Muhammad. Signed at the bottom in ink, do tickets, etc. ERA - L-G wins 7-6. ('40's versus '50's) “Love Muhammad Ali” in vintage pen. $3,500.00 First there is LOOK. Not as subjective as it seems. Items CONDITION - R-L wins 10-8. 3. MUHAMMAD ALI TRAINING TRUNKS (1974): are either blah looking, ugly, beautiful, etc. Still, it depends on The final score is R-L 45, L-G 48. So what does that mean? It means in an argument/negotia- 1974-Foreman Fight, Large, VG, Heavy Use, LOA taste and can be affected by condition later on a criteria itself. tion each party has something to stand on. If they can agree on from family of Wali Muhammad. $8,500.00 Then RARITY. This one depends on someone's experi- ence. If experienced collectors have seen less than 3, it is max individual scores and the system as a whole, they are on better 4. ALI-FRAZIER III OFFICIAL PROGRAM: 10/1/75, rare. ground to make a trade. Here, maybe the guy with the Robinson Complete, VG, Clean. $3,250.00 HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. An item tied to a high program throws in some cash. 5. ALI-QUARRY I FULL TICKET: 10/26/70, Official profile fight gets highest rating here. Dempsey-Tunney, Liston- By the way, I am also suggesting that if any piece fails to On Site, Illustrated, VG. $3,750.00 Clay, Sullivan-Corbett, etc.. get a single point in any one category, it cannot be adequately 6. ARGUELLO-ROONEY FIGHT CONTRACTS FIGHTER(S) SIGNIFICANCE. Who is the guy? Say you compared since it is essentially valueless. A great looking mint (1982): Arguello’s contract is boldly signed by Alexis had something from the Baer-Campbell fight. Historical signifi- pre-1900 cabinet photo of a guy not even Bill Schutte and boxrec Arguello and promoter Bob Arum in ink. The Rooney cance more than most of Baer's other fights because Campbell have heard of isn't worth discussing, is it? This may need work but is it worth pursuing? contract is signed by Hall Of Famer Bruce Trampler died but it is still Baer, who is not highly collected and Campbell What think? for Top Rank and Jimmy Jacobs. $1,000.00 not at all. ERA. The older the better. pre-1900 gets highest score. 7. BAER-UZCUDUN SOUVENIR PIN/RIBBON: CONDITION. No explanation needed here. 7/4/31, 2” x 5 ½,” EX. $2,000.00 8. CASSIUS CLAY VINTAGE SIGNED GLOVE: 8 ¼” long Hutch leather glove signed in ink, “From Cassius Clay 19-62.” Clean. $7,500.00 BOXING COLLECTORS' NEWS is solely pub- lished and owned by Don Scott Consulting and ADDRESSES 9. JACK DEMPSEY SIGNED BOXING GLOVE: Regu- Publishing LLC. No material herein can be lation size leather glove boldly signed in white marker. used without permission. Boxer addresses are not guaranteed authentic by BCN but are collected from Clean. $4,000.00 SUBSCRIPTIONS are $24 for first class mail readers and BoxingHelp.com and passed on as related. We always need addresses. 10. JOE FRAZIER-MIKE BRUCE ON SITE POSTER: WANTED: delivery. Canada is $30 per year and other Autographs, Antique & Wire Photos, Cabinet nd Frazier’s 2 Pro Fight, 22” x 28,” Good Condition, Cards, Rare Books, Posters, Programs, Tick- non-US is $40 (all funds US). Please note that ets, Championship Belts, Awards & Trophies, overseas will be mailed first class . 9/20/65. $2,500.00 Fight Worn Equipment, Advertising Pieces Davey Lee Armstrong, 11209 E 148th St., Puyal- 11. GEORGE FOREMAN-LADISLAO MIJANGOS and Bound Volumes of The Ring, Boxing Il- AD RATES: are as follows: : 1/4 page $25; 1/2 lup, WA 98374 lustrated, Boxing & Wrestling and The Police page $50, 3/4 page $75 and full page is $100. ON SITE POSTER (1988): 8/25/88, 16 5/8 x 22, EX. Gazette (pre-1930). Loose copies of The ring Paulie Ayala, 7524 Creek meadow Dr, Fort Worth, and Police Gazette pre 1930 only if clean. All ad submissions must be submitted digitally $800.00 TX 76116 TERMS: unless prior agreement is made. There us a 10% 12. JOE LOUIS-JIMMY BRADDOCK ROVING PHO- 1. Please add $8.00 for postage. Foreign orders billed separately. discount for full year of ads paid in advance. Antonio Tarver, 4701 Rue Bordeaux, Lutz, FL TOGRAPHER PASS (1937): 6/22/37, Louis Wins 2. NYS residents add 8.625% sales tax. All ads must be in our hands by the 10th of the 33558 Title, VG, 3 ¼ x 5. $435.00 3. All autographs are guaranteed for life. Jermaine Taylor, PO Box 3456, Little Rock, AR 4. Check or money order payable to: JO Sports, Inc. month with payment. No faxed ads. 13. SALVADOR SANCHEZ SIGNED DOCUMENT 5. Visa, Mastercard & American Express accepted. NO CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED FOR SUBS OR 72203 (1981): Regarding Car Accident, Bold Ink Signature, 6. Paypal to our account: [email protected] (no L in account name) ADS. Dave Telesco, 33 Olivia St, Port Chester, NY One Page, EX. $2,500.00 7. Payment is due within 10 days of order. OUR HOMEPAGE: www.boxingcollectors.com. 10573 14. JESS WILLARD SIGNED PHOTO: Bold ink on 8” x Our email and Paypal address: donscott4@ JO SPORTS, INC. - Craig Hamilton 10” photo in full fight pose. EX. $1,500.00 suddenlink.net P.O. Box 607 Brookhaven, NY 11719 Phone/fax 631-286-0970 Email: [email protected] 2 3 IBHOF 2012 Scrapbook with musings and ramblings SPORTS COLLECTIBLES AUCTION AUGUST 2012 | BALTIMORE & DALLAS | LIVE & ONLINE Consignments Wanted Cash Advances Available 1908 Jack Johnson Heavyweight Championship Presentational Pendant Sold for: $28,600 1975 Ali vs. Frazier “Thrilla in Manila” On-Site Broadside Sold For: $2,390 1959 Louisville Golden Gloves Light Heavyweight 1978 Muhammad Ali’s Championship Award The living 2012 inductees: Katz, Johnson, Bernstein, Roach, hearns, Buffer. Three-Time Heavyweight Medal Presented Champion Ring to Cassius Clay Sold for: $59,750 (Muhammad Ali) There are lots of places where you can go to Sold For: $6,572 get the full agenda of the IBHOF weekend and 1953 Carl “Bobo” Olson World Middleweight Championship “Ring Magazine” Belt read the quotes and whatever, and we usually just Sold For: $13,145 do that, too, but how about I just throw out some Autographs – Game Used Equipment – Vintage Sportscards – Trophies and Awards – Tickets and Publications – Athlete Personally Owned Items – Sporting Ephemera observations and opinions this year? Sort of like Heritage Auctions is always accepting consignments of fine sports collectibles and trading cards for upcoming auctions. With a bidding membership of more than 600,000, 15th Round meets HOF Scrapbook. and a dedicated marketing division experienced in gaining international press coverage for Signature® Auctions, Heritage finds the buyers that pay record-setting prices. Call 800-872-6467 or email one of our experts today to discuss how you can consign to a Heritage auction event. Overall the weekend was great as usual but the best part was the memorabilia I saw and the Chris Ivy Derek Grady Mark Jordan Mike Gutierrez Jonathan Scheier Lee Iskowitz Peter Calderon Chris Nerat friends I only see once a year.