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HAP201022pod Thu, 10/22 9:47PM 1:07:28 SUMMARY KEYWORDS people, australia, molly, talking, doctors, masks, homeopathy, options, health, step, evidence, vaccine, test, homeopathic, disease, important, mike, real, treating, absolutely SPEAKERS Molly Knight, Dr Isaac Golden, Mike Stacey M Mike Stacey 00:13 Welcome to HAP News, the podcast of the latest news from Health Australia Party. Follow us through the News page on our website at www Health Australia party.com.au for more information. Tonight's episode is a chat that Molly had with one of our co founders, Dr. Isaac golden. And he is outlining a roadmap out of the COVID or any other type of similar crisis. Let's listen to Molly and Isaac. M Molly Knight 00:57 Hello, everyone. Welcome to our talk tonight on Health Australia Party. Facebook Live. Thank you for joining us on Molly. Tonight's we'll be talking to Dr. Isaac golden. Isaac is a homeopath in Victoria. So he's right in the midst of everything that's been going on with all the lockdowns and the dreadful conditions that our friends down there have had to endure for so long. And Isaac was the co founder of the Health Australia Party back in 2015. And I'd like to start off tonight by welcoming Isaac. Welcome, D Dr Isaac Golden 01:34 Isaac, thank you for joining Molly. It's lovely to be with you. Your reputation precedes you. Oh, good. Absolutely. Molly Knight 01:45 HAP201022pod Page 1 of 21 Transcribed by https://otter.ai M Molly Knight 01:45 I wanted to kick off tonight, because we're going to have a really interesting talk about, Well, a lot of things, a lot of things to do with what's going on right now. But I wanted to know, tell me why you you got involved in starting a political party from being a practitioner, and you moved into the political arena? Why did you do that? D Dr Isaac Golden 02:06 I did so with great reluctance, Molly. Because I mean, I've always been a swinging voter. I've haven't voted consistently labour or liberal. I love the Australian democrats when Don chip introduced them. I love the greens when Bob Brown introduced them, although they've changed dramatically in in the last decade. So it was with reluctance. But basically, the real driving motivation was the fact that natural medicine in general, and I'm not just talking about naturopaths, and homeopaths, I'm also talking about integrative medicine doctors, chiropractors osteopaths basically have been under sustained attack in this country for many years. Now, it probably all started in 2005 in England, with the publication in the journal Lancet, and an editorial by the editor of Lancet, and that really started the ball rolling, it was an anti homeopathy, article and editorial. And that led some years later to a government inquiry in England, about homeopathy, should it be part of the national health system because it it's been used there since the time of Queen Adelaide, there are a number of homeopathic hospitals, there were many hundreds of Orthodox doctors who were and still a homeopathic practitioners. The the whole article back then in 2005, was actually a confection. They said that they did something and they actually did something totally different. Basically, what they did, they looked at a group of homeopathic studies in a group of studies about pharmaceutical medicine, and then they cherry picked, instead of analyzing all of the studies with equal relevance, they cherry picked to get the conclusion they wanted. It took two years to actually find out because, you know, normally people declare when they write articles in prestigous medical journals, what the doctor is, they would not reveal it, it took two years of inquiry. And when people obtain the data and legitimate statisticians analyze it, they found that actually, the studies were in favor of homeopathy, not the opposite, which the article had said. And a very similar thing was done by the nhmrc in Australia, many years later, but we'll come to that. That disruption led to the formation in Australia in 2013 of the so called friends of science in medicine. Now, this is a pharmaceutical lobby group who basically really should be called friends of pharmaceuticals in medicine that would be an honest name. Because the first thing they did when they were formed, was said, we are going to stop research into natural medicine in Australian universities, and we are going to stop Australian universities teaching evidence based natural therapies. So much. So for being scientists, I mean, a real scientist would never do that. It's right. Yeah, real scientist, that all things are on the table to be openly analyzed and discussed. But they've had a tremendous impact. HAP201022pod Page 2 of 21 Transcribed by https://otter.ai They've infiltrated the nhmrc, the National Health and Medical Research Council, which is Australia's peak research body, for health medicine, in general, they've spend a ridiculously small amount on researching natural medicine is less than 1% of their extensive budget. But unfortunately, they then did a an analysis of homeopathy followed later by an analysis of natural apathy, herbal medicine, even things like meditation massage, which, these days practically mainstream, and they came to conclusions that there was no evidence that these things were effective. Despite the fact around the world. There's massive evidence. In the case of the nhmrc with the homeopathy study, if you look on their website, they claim or they appear to be claiming that they've looked at 1600 studies, they cherry pick that down to five, only five studies. And in fact, they sent their report out to three peer reviewers and the Australasian Cochrane Collaboration, three of the four said they shouldn't come to that conclusion, but they did anyway. So it was clear, there's been sustained attack on natural medicine, not just homeopathy, all forms of natural medicine. And I thought, the best way to try and do something about this was to get people inside parliament, because you can lobby parliamentarians, you can send them letters, you know, we can do petitions, all of these things are being done, and they've made no difference. But if we could get some people into state and federal Parliament's, it would make a massive difference, because people inside the parliament's could then start hearing the truth. And this actually, Molly is going to lead to what we're going to be discussing tonight. Because the real reason there is so much damage being caused by the covid response is because politicians don't know the truth about health options that are available, not just to COVID, but for anything, but in this scenario that we're talking about tonight, for COVID. If they did know the truth, we could save billions of dollars, we could save tremendous heartbreak, so many people. And in fact, I was listening to Professor McGorry the other day talking about mental health in Australia, and he was saying the demand for mental health services is up by 30%. Because of COVID. And that's because of the lockdowns, people losing businesses, people losing marriages. So I thought, okay, it being a politician is not ever anything I've aspired to be. But to me, that was what we needed to do. So another five people and myself, we met in Melbourne. In July, I think it was 2015 and decided to form the Health Australia Party. And it's been a rocky road since then. Absolutely. It's it brings with it a lot of very unpleasant scenarios, unfortunately. But we're gonna hang on for a bit longer anyway. And the need Now, of course, is more than it ever has been with this code situation. M Molly Knight 09:01 Yeah, absolutely. Yet, we really must get people into parliament that can retain this soul and not sell it. And and tell the truth. Yeah, Dr Isaac Golden 09:12 HAP201022pod Page 3 of 21 Transcribed by https://otter.ai D Dr Isaac Golden 09:12 yes, very much. So. M Molly Knight 09:14 So what, Isaac, let's talk about COVID because there's a lot of information out there some of it true, perhaps some of it, definitely not quite true. So let's dissect it a little bit. D Dr Isaac Golden 09:28 So your wonderful husband is actually going to be pushing the buttons behind the scenes tonight. So Mike, could we have the first slide please? And I hope he lives up to that wonderful tag. I'm sure he will. Very guys, except Mike, is it possible to put the pictures up the top rather than on the side because we're going to lose some of the data if that is possible. But basically Molly I you're quite correct. What you've said is absolutely correct. Because there's so much information out there. And as you say some of its accurate, some of it isn't accurate. There are questions, is it a real disease is the data for cases and deaths reliable has a real reaction be managed by people with vested interests, do masks work, a lock downs necessary? Is it all a big conspiracy, so we're not going there, we're not going down a rabbit hole tonight.