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Blew up My Redhawk TheFiringLine Forums - Blew up my Redhawk Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 > Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page TheFiringLine Forums (http://www.TheFiringLine.com/forums/index.php) - Handguns: The Revolver Forum (http://www.TheFiringLine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22) - - Blew up my Redhawk (http://www.TheFiringLine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310125) Smaug September 8, 2008 10:48 PM Blew up my Redhawk That didn't take long, seeing as how I just got it yesterday. :mad: So I took it to the range today, intending to zero the scope for about 1/2" high at 25 yards. Just to get used to shooting a big 44 again, I loaded up one of my Light Magnum handloads. 240 gr. Ranier plated flat point bullet, over 6-12 gr. of Unique. should be about 44 Special power level. I'm 100% sure these loads are OK. Not double-charged or any of that jazz. I shot half of this batch probably 3 years ago in my S&W 29. They are beautiful loads. Very accurate, not too much kick. So, I draw a bead on the target, cock the hammer, and cut 'er loose. BOOM clunk, clunk, clunk. It took a second to register what happened. The gun's weight was cut in half. I looked downrange, and the barrel/scope assembly had just stopped rolling. I'm thinking the guy that traded this in somehow broke it. Maybe HE did a super-hot handload? Then glued it back together and traded it in on something. I don't believe gun shops test fire trade-ins, right? They probably just clean them up, give them the once-over, and mark them up 100% over what they paid, right? Anyway, here's the gun: http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...edredhawk1.jpg http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...edredhawk2.jpg http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...edredhawk3.jpg Look at the cross section at the break. I'm no expert, but I didn't think gun barrel steel looked so... hollow. Doesn't that look like broken JB Weld to you guys? The question is now: What do I do? Have any of you had something like this happen? The shop that sold it to me has a 30 day warranty. But I'm sure they'll ask what ammo I was shooting, and when I tell them it was a light magnum handload, they'll probably just slam the gate. If I give the whole story to Ruger, they might fix it, but they also might not. I could of course furnish them with a couple of my handloads for them to disassemble and analyze if they ask. But I might have to pay them $100 or something for the service. I wonder if I can get out of this without getting burned. tplumeri September 8, 2008 10:59 PM Quote: I loaded up one of my Light Magnum handloads. http://thefiringline.com/forums/printthread.php?t=310125&pp=40[12/28/2009 9:15:49 AM] TheFiringLine Forums - Blew up my Redhawk no, i'm sure you are mistaken. you shot factory ammo right? bottom line: this gun was an accident waiting to happen. factory defect? point is, let ruger figure out what the problem was. if it was defective out of the factory you'll get a new gun. if it was blown up......well, they'll tell you that too. JMHO tom Sarge September 8, 2008 11:04 PM Bad casting, severe over-torquing, or a combination of both. Trust me...a handload didn't do that. Call Ruger & make arrangements to send it back. zxcvbob September 8, 2008 11:09 PM Quote: over 6-12 gr. of Unique Which was it, 6 or 12? Twelve would be a significant overcharge (about 40000 psi) with a 240 grain bullet. But that's not how it should fail. Quote: I wonder if I can get out of this without getting burned. The scope is worth $200+ (maybe a lot more). The gun looks OK, just needs a new barrel. I agree, the break shouldn't look like that (it should be shiny). I think you got screwed, but you'll come out OK. laytonj1 September 8, 2008 11:13 PM An overcharge would have taken out the cylinder. Your barrel just snapped in half. Looks like a defective barrel, but it is coincidental that it broke on the first shot you put thru it... being a used gun. Jim laytonj1 September 8, 2008 11:18 PM The break will be rough. And a little dark because of the burning powder charge in it when it let go. Did the bullet make it out of the barrel? Jim Stumper September 8, 2008 11:22 PM http://thefiringline.com/forums/printthread.php?t=310125&pp=40[12/28/2009 9:15:49 AM] TheFiringLine Forums - Blew up my Redhawk That is a metalurgical problem, NOT an overpressure issue. If the cylyinder had ruptured, questions about the loads might be relevant. That failure looks like clorinated solvent induced cracking or some such. HoraceHogsnort September 8, 2008 11:26 PM So, what's a rebarrel gonna cost ya if'n Ruger don't want to make it good? It probably won't break your bank account and you have a new barrel, whatever length you desire. Oh, BTW, if the scope is damaged, ITS A LEUPOLD!! I think you meant to say 6 1/2 gr. of Unique, did you not? 44 AMP September 8, 2008 11:29 PM Not the first time I've heard abouot this Although I can't remember exactly where I heard it before, but I do recall hearing about a guy who had the barrel come off of his Redhawk, some time ago. I don't think your reload was the cause, but I do think you ought to find a better way to describe it. Saying 6- 12gr Unique sounds like you don't know what is loaded in the case. Is it 6gr? or 12gr? or somewhere in between? Call Ruger, and contact the gunshop where you bought it. The gunshop will have a record of who they got it from, and if it turns out the barrel came off on him and he JB welded it back on (unlikely, but not beyond possibility), there ought to be consequences for him. Ruger will want the gun, and want to know what happened. BE HONEST! No matter how much it hurts. Yes, all the makers say that reloads void their warranty, but except for Glock, I have never heard of one not honoring the warranty when the reload wasn't the cause of the problem. Also there is the gunshop 30 day guarantee, and I would think that any costs Ruger imposes (and there may not be any) ought to be borne by the shop, not you. The metal in your pictures looks crystalized, which is a flaw, not damage from your reload. An overcharged (overpressure) round in a revolver normally blows out the cylinder wall(s) and bends the frame. It does not shear off the barrel. Smaug September 8, 2008 11:31 PM tplumeri - You're right, I was mistaken. It was in fact a factory magnum. Sarge - I just sent a contact email through Ruger's website. They will supposedly contact me within 3 business days. (I'm hoping tomorrow) zxcvbob - My 48th Edition Lyman reloading manual says 10.3 - 11.5 gr. of Unique for a 240 gr. jacketed bullet. 11.5 is at about 39k psi. I'm 90% sure this was more on the high side of the 44 Special loads, like 7 gr. The recoil was not in the same ballpark as a 240 gr. factory magnum. I don't have the load data any more. I had it in the Lee Shooter program, which crapped out on me. From now on, it is all going on good old fashioned paper. laytonj1 - Yep, the bullet made it out. The barrel is still clean inside. It hit in about the right area of the target. Look at the bottom photo in this thread. That was shot at about 25 ft. I expect it would be low if the previous owner had it zeroed for 50-100 yards. I'm already kind of a Ruger fan; if they make this right, I will be impressed. The more I look at it, the more it looks like bad casting. http://thefiringline.com/forums/printthread.php?t=310125&pp=40[12/28/2009 9:15:49 AM] TheFiringLine Forums - Blew up my Redhawk I just hope they don't replace the gun. This one has a VERY nice trigger. Much nicer than the new Super Redhawks I've tried. Smaug September 8, 2008 11:33 PM When did Ruger get into investment casting? Was it about this time, (1983) or was it much earlier? Maybe they were in their infancy when this one was made... HOGGHEAD September 8, 2008 11:34 PM Burned??? You want to get out of it without being burned?? You have got to be kidding?? You are lucky you did not get hurt. You should go out and buy some lottery tickets immediately!!! Honesty is the best policy. I would first ask the dealer for a refund, but you may not get one. I would then contact Ruger, and tell them the truth. They are not dummies. And the truth can go a long way. However I agree with you. IF this was the first shot you took with the pistol then I would be a bit pis*** at whoever traded it in.
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