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Are We Recording? The evolution of a law library radio show

By Marcia Dority Baker

he advent of technology has room, or do both, and if a user misses the show is about: a law librarian on infinitely changed how humans the live show, the can talk radio. Think of good book titles, exchange information. There are be downloaded from iTunes. band names, or even annoying songs or T jingles—words or phrases that get stuck numerous ways to communicate with in your head and/or mean something. people: a phone call, by e-mail, at Hosting Your Own Radio Show Talk Radio is a web-based, live This is your first opportunity to professional conferences, through radio internet service that includes free announce to the world what your show networking opportunities, and in or basic services for individual users; is dedicated to. publications of all types. Another premium levels of service and business Second, once you have a show to opportunity is via radio—not the old accounts are available for companies. host, set a schedule and be consistent. fashioned AM/FM kind, but online There are two types of individual In the beginning, the “Law Librarian on radio shows or . accounts—one for listeners and one for Blog Talk Radio” show was scheduled In May 2008, Richard Leiter, hosts. Users can listen to shows without for the third Friday afternoon of each director of Schmid Law Library at the registering but they will appear as guests month. This was a good time for the University of Nebraska College of Law, in the chat room instead of by their user hosts, guests, and panelists to talk, hosted the first episode of “The Law names. and the afternoon time slot benefited Librarian on Blog Talk Radio.” all time zones, which is a plus when As a self-defined tech geek, guests can be on either coast Leiter wanted to experiment or somewhere in-between. with Blog Talk Radio and, at A regular schedule also retains the same time, talk about law listeners—there is nothing library issues, information, more annoying than finding a technology, and current events. new website, blog, or show and The show’s original co-host, never seeing new content. Brian Striman of Schmid Law Finally, promote the show. Library, “manned” the chat This is your new baby, so blog room, took questions from the about it, tell your library audience for Leiter and/or coworkers about it, e-mail show guests, and assisted with professional online discussion the show. lists, etc. Blog Talk Radio When I took over as co- provides buttons and flair for host in the summer of 2009, your website, or you can use my new responsibilities a Facebook fan page, included leading the chat room account, or other social media discussion, helping with the sites to share information about show, promoting each episode, the show. Most social media organizing show topics, sites are free, so take advantage helping to schedule guests, of connecting with listeners, sharing content, and providing and offering general tech Richard Leiter and Marcia Dority Baker’s new show, “Law assistance. Basically, the co- another avenue for audience Librarian Conversations,” is hosted by the Center for Computer- feedback and suggestions. host keeps things moving Aided Legal Instruction (CALI). along while the host interviews guests. One of the most active parts of the The concept is user-friendly—you Changes for “The Law radio show is making sure all websites can sign up for a host account that Librarian” Show or people mentioned during a show are allows you broadcast time ranging from While Blog Talk Radio is a great included in the chat room discussion. 60 to 90 minutes. The only technology provider for online radio, it has created As a show progresses, I try to include necessary is a computer and telephone, some issues for “The Law Librarian” website URLs, guest webpages, and other though Skype can be substituted for a radio show. First was the strict start topics discussed on the show within the phone line. time for the show and the allotted show chat room. Following each show, a chat Before setting up a radio show, length. The show host cannot log on to room transcript is made available to there are a few things to think about. Blog Talk Radio until 15 minutes prior listeners. The great thing about Blog First, find a good name for the show, to the show’s start time, which often Talk Radio is the audio and visual something that gets the point across and doesn’t allow adequate prep time for component to the podcast. Users can is easy to remember. “The Law Librarian guests calling in from cell phones, Skype, listen to the show, participate in the chat on Blog Talk Radio” says exactly what or through the show’s switchboard. The © 2010 Marcia Dority Bake (continued on page 15)

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Friday afternoon slot at 2 p.m. central information on Twitter and Facebook. Law Librarians Take the Lead standard time also confused the audience Once someone has participated in a So what role do law librarians play in and guests, sometimes causing people to show (either as an attendee or panelist), these developments? At the 2010 AALL call in an hour early or late. his or her contact information is saved, Annual Meeting in Denver, a group The most annoying aspect, however, and an e-mail promoting the show is of librarians from firm, public, and was the advertising. While Blog Talk generated each time another “Law academic libraries met to discuss their Radio did a great job with the radio Librarian Conversations” show is involvement in animal law. The meeting show itself, it was the ads that listeners scheduled. was organized by Marie Erickson, head and guests had to suffer through that One challenge presented by the of public services at the State Law became the last straw. Even with an GoToWebinar software, however, is Library of Louisiana. Having given upgrade to the premium service, there the lack of a robust chat room. The continuing legal education presentations would still be ads. program’s stock chat room allows for on the subject for the Louisiana State We made the decision to migrate chat between the attendees and presenter Bar Association, Erickson has first-hand from Blog Talk Radio to the Center for or organizer, but does not allow for experience with the growing interest Computer-Aided Legal Instruction effective back-and-forth conversation among practitioners. (CALI) in February 2010 after Leiter between attendees. In response, CALI It quickly became clear that those in contacted CALI Director John Mayer has provided an alternative chat room attendance not only have a professional about hosting a live radio show. CALI for the show, which is located on the connection to animal law through their uses GoToWebinar for its regularly show’s website. Listeners can participate respective institutions, but also almost scheduled webinars, a format that would and be identified by their names by unanimously volunteer for animal also work for a radio show. After a logging in with their CALI credentials or welfare causes. The gathering created an number of e-mails, phone calls, and a as a guest. After the show, the chat room initiative to formalize the group as the few test shows, “Law Librarian transcript is saved and posted. official AALL Animal Law Caucus. The Conversations,” hosted by CALI, went As long as “Law Librarian caucus is in the process of developing its live March 2010. Conversations” has listeners and is fun own online discussion list, website, and While the new radio show format to do, we will continue to broadcast the guidelines, and is open to all who are experienced some growing pains, it is show. I have enjoyed this experience, and active in or have an interest in currently working well. It allows for it has given me the chance to play with promoting animal welfare law. flexible show times, so we can start a bit new and fun technology. We have had Responses to a short survey on the earlier or later on Fridays or even change an interesting list of guests, from the guy Law-Lib online discussion list following the day to accommodate special guests. behind Google Scholar to a group of the meeting revealed the wide range of While being consistent is important, so firm librarians discussing what new activities librarians participate in at their is having a show. Sometimes we have to associates and summer clerks need to institutions. They teach credited animal adjust the start time—or even the day— know. Co-hosting the show has also law courses; give guest lectures, both in law schools and other graduate to accommodate busy schedules. There given me the opportunity to brainstorm programs; serve as faculty advisors to is also the benefit of having a “name” ideas and talk to a variety of people. student animal law societies; create behind the show—CALI is well known I also pay more attention to current research guides; work pro bono for in the law library world and supportive events, legal and law news, and of new technologies and education. animal causes; coach student teams technology trends that make for One perk in working with CALI is the competing in the National Animal Law entertaining talking points on the next marketing and promotion of the show. Competition; and field questions on show. I invite you to listen to our next The GoToWebinar software can send topics related to animal control issues podcast or try something similar in out show invitations to participate in in both metropolitan and rural settings. your library—it’s a fun way to connect scheduled podcasts. The host, co-host, Animal law has become a main - with people while sharing relevant and panel guests then receive unique ■ stream topic in the legal community. invites or links to the show, and information. As Anna Stolley Persky and David audience members can join the show Marcia Dority Baker (mdority Sutton note in the September 2010 from a general invite or link. We use [email protected]) is assistant professor of ABA Journal article “Their Day in this blurb to e-mail professional law library and access services librarian at Court,” “Advocacy groups and lawyers online discussion lists and post show the University of Nebraska in Lincoln. in the animal protection field suggest their efforts are just warming up.” Law librarians, with their skill in legislative More Information advocacy, teaching, research, scholarship, public service, and work with future Podcasts for “Law Librarian Conversations” as well as older episodes lawyers, will be instrumental to these from “The Law Librarian on Blog Talk Radio” are available on the show’s forces of change. ■ website at http://lawlibcon.classcaster.net/podcasts. Michele Finerty (mfinerty@ pacific.edu)is assistant director for You can also find the “Law Librarian on Blog Talk Radio” show at technical services at the Gordon D. www.blogtalkradio.com/thelawlibrarian. Schaber Law Library Pacific McGeorge School of Law. For more information on GoToWebinar, visit www.gotomeeting.com/ fec/webinar.

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